ZLGY 400: The Speed of the Cardinal

0:46 Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast. My name is Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian seagull. How you doing on this man again? Got a little rainy weekend, coming up, rainy cold, going to probably miss, baseball, practice tomorrow and I'm we had a game tonight.

1:27 Our field was borderline okay to play. There were still puddles and everything and it is as much rain as they say. We're going to get tomorrow into Friday, we're not playing till next week sometime. Yeah, it's going to be a soggy one the next couple days. So I figured y'all are probably not going to see any games until next week. So no, not for all if that's what you were looking for. All things considered, if not, it is what it is. When you say fall ball, we do not reschedule schedule. But tonight, let's reschedule game from Monday. So it's kind of cool, but I think we also need Needed to. I think I coach saw the weather and it's like, we're not going to play Saturday or not going to play Thursday. We're not going to play Saturday, so if we don't get them in, will be almost two weeks between games which is yeah, not a funny.

2:18 So got it. Got it got to make it happening but this is sort of the last week we can like really, really do it because I mean time change this weekend, the next like if we can't get a field at five We don't have one of the field lights, you know? We're not going to be out of play. I mean heck we were out there the last 20 minutes, it will start to get Dusky so it was kind of pushing it man. So yeah. So your wife posted something, you guys had a murder mystery tonight. Well yeah well up to a neighbor's house. Did a little murder mystery in a box I guess they get like a monthly thing and decided we do it together, we solve the mystery, man, and two, bailiffs captain. Yeah.

3:08 It was skipped / Bayless her bailiff. Well some of his takes are murdering because there's just that bad. I mean, you know, but I guess that's the way you get ahead in sports media. Nowadays is just make asinine statements and then never ever come off of them, right? Yeah. You pick a guy you pick a player you hate and just rip them regardless of the situation regardless of the facts presented, like that's, he's Like three or four guys, he just rips on regularly and then he just throws in other bad takes four teams. He doesn't like, and then he just puts a bow on it, and that's what he does even when it's wrong. Oh yeah, that's even better when it's wrong. All right?

3:52 It's all about, it's all about clicks and eyes, man, it doesn't matter whether he's right. It is true. Clicks acrylics are the important part, man. All right. Well, Braun Lets Roll into it. No, the enemy this week Hokies. Travel West to Louisville, to play the Cardinals, Cardinals 2 and 4 overall, 1 and 4 in conference play, but they are coming off one of the better performances of the year against FSU, 4816 win, all right. We'll kick it off with the offense. They are they are loaded with a three headed monster at quarterback wide receiver and running back. Malik Cunningham the quarterback to to at well and JV and Hawkins so bright. I want to start with Cunningham.

4:39 Let's start at quarterback just because he's got the ball in his hands every time right before the season. So far put up really good numbers. 1396 passing yards, 12 touchdowns five interceptions. Sixty two point nine. Completion percentage. Adding on to that 174, rushing yards and three touchdowns. Now, although the rushing yards where they were last year, comparatively there is no doubt. This is going to be the biggest duel threat. The Hokies have faced all year. You know we saw Sam Harmon run last week for a touchdown but those guys compared to this guy it's night and day, 15th and passing yards, 27th and passing efficiency and know. Overall, he's really had one bad game. Brian.

5:26 I mean in that was the pit game. You kind of, were we picked out a few weeks ago where you threw three interceptions, only 170 yards and a 42 percent completion. So you know, you got an athletic guy back at quarterback, who obviously canceling, the rock Brian. What do you see out of Malik Cunningham? Definitely a guy that can beat you with his legs. Like you said there, man. That's a true dual threat. We've had here. I think other guys are have been athletic quarterbacks. This guy's a true dual threat, who can dynamically beat you with his legs and his arm, they get in the ball, in the running game, a lot of different ways.

6:11 Sometimes that's the scrambled, but primarily the way they draw it up, in terms of a coal Run for the quarterback is going to be a lot of QB drawers. So you'll see him kind of influence. With kind of a drop step and then he'll just take off. Usually up the middle between the tackles there, try to find a crease get to the second level. Make some guys miss try to bust a big one. He's also a quarterback that for not being the biggest guy. He doesn't shy away from contact. I heard something on the broadcast where they were talking about the quarterback room talked about, we don't run out of bounds, we don't slide we fight for every yard.

6:51 So that's something that has Kind of come back to bite them a couple times because Cunningham was banged up pretty bad in the pit game towards the end there. Especially that last big shot. He took, oh yeah, he came off the field once against Notre Dame. So he's going to take some shots and there's going to be some opportunities there their Forest but when he's not running, he throws a pretty decent deep ball. That's what they like to do is attack down for you with the football. They're not, they're not a ding. Conduct team. They're not a team that's going to kind of throw those intermediate routes a whole lot. They're going to throw some screens to the wide receivers and then take shots so look for him to do that with his arm. Some of that could be because his intermediate are magar. See is not the greatest he'll miss on through, still wait too long on throws but if it's not there and he sees an opening Hill, quite easily, likes to climb the pocket early in the after the snap and then if it's not there he's not afraid to take off and makes things happen with his legs. So there's going to have to be a lot of discipline from the defense against this guy.

8:04 All right, so disciplined and then something you mentioned just a couple seconds ago. The Deep shot the Deep balls and Buddy, does he have himself a wide receiver to throw the ball to in 22 at? Well man, I mean he's no doubt. His favorite Target five touchdowns this year 450. Receiving yards, 32 receptions at 14 perceptions and this season, his best games have come. Um, against some of the better athletic teams. Athletically gifted means with Miami and FSU, both over 100 plus yards and he's scary, man. I mean, this guy is a sub for for guy, was clocked it for 38 last year and a 40, so he can get on it top 10 in receiving yards, in the country and he is leading the ACC. I should say, tied for the lead.

8:58 Now, Brian, you watched, obviously, it's film. Does he play as fast as these stats are? Saying and what that clock says or is it he plays fast or he doesn't play Fast, impasse, he's just passed, he's a track athlete. That also is fast on the field. See it run by guys run through zones. Definitely likes to take more likes to hit him either down, filled with the shot or in the screen game where you can kind of Working space a little bit so they're not trying to run him over the Middle where he's getting hit ton by linebackers and things like that. But what he does well is he's going to outrun your guy if you're playing that man coverage if you're giving half feel responsibility to a safety, that's not really something you want to do a whole lot of either and have against the FSU game here.

9:55 And by guy just for a touchdown right up the sideline, You know, he's going to be a guy that we have to keep in front of us the whole game, if we're going to contain him, he's only an average route Runner. He's not got a great route Runner, but but what he does, well is working space and just take the top off a defense. And that's kind of scary when you say that Brian because I think about the UNC game and multiple fun beat over the top and I know we were we were still acting. We were short-handed but it worries you when a guy's 438, man, man. The first thing you say is, if we tried going man and he gets beat and they put one on the money.

10:37 Like we have seen numerous time in Louisville's game this year, it's three plays in there in the end zone. And if I were to happen early the way we Been playing especially on offense, you can be very long day for us, but you know, is bothersome is that isn't is worrisome. Is that is the third head of this monster is absolute? No slouch. JV and Hawkins has 693 yards and six touchdowns 11 receptions at 85 yards. In three of his six games played, he's won over 156 yards per Rush, including last week, 10.9 against FSU.

11:21 He's already improved those receptions from last year and he's kind of slowly becoming an all-around back which is really good for Louis. Bill because they really don't have to substitute him out. He can stay in there, the whole dime. 693 yards. There's only two people ahead of them in the country. One person had him in the conference Khalil Herbert's. A guy in the conference and, you know, it's it's pretty wild top 25 in yards per carry surprise. We worry about the guys going over the top, but they've got a guy that can run. So how, you know, what do we got to do to slow him down and what does he do?

12:03 Really well, that's going to potentially cost. I'm for the Hokies. So, another thing with with with Hawkins man we're talking about a track athlete at wide receiver, with that. Well, we've got another track athlete at running back with Hawkins, kind of a big play guy. If you get into the second level really dangerous in the open field, but he's not going to grind out drives like some of the guys we saw with Wake Forest or even some of the guys we saw on UNC, he is definitely more of a Feast, or famine, hit the big play, or it's probably just a my skein to a loss. Yeah, I've seen him thrown for a lot of negative plays, but then they'll turn around and hit just a big chunk play with them.

12:47 And obviously, you know, you get 30 on one carry and -5 one another, you still have a pretty damn good average there ever carry. So that's kind of what you're looking at with with Hawkins is that he's not going to beat you you know, five to eight yards at a time, he's going to beat you. By hitting those big cashing runs and get 20 to 30 yards or go for the big one. Give you a prime example man he had a big run against Pittsburgh things like a 70 or 75 yd touchdown but he had less than 10 total yards from scrimmage. The rest of the game in the room, the running attack. So he was still used some of the passing game, but if you're able to keep him from getting to the second level, you can make Look pedestrian. But if you can't do that, he's going to run up and down the field.

13:41 Now, Brian even mention something with Cunningham you should mention wide receiver screens but you didn't mention running back screens. It's he strictly just a check down guy or something like that. Maybe like, you know, up the seam or something, and not really do anything because the way they use them primarily, man, is they use them a lot in the check down game, but they also will kind of run him on some wheel routes. So I've seen him catch about two or three of those 20 yards, downfield, 30 yards downfield, one of them actually I think it was Notre Dame was an easy touchdown that kind of came actually through short and he kind of had to fall forward on it and by the time you reach the ball out, he was right at the 1-yard line.

14:23 So it could have been a touchdown for him there but wasn't because of the throw. So got to keep an eye on him when he leaves the backfield as well because he can still I'll bite you, especially on those wheel routes. Most of the check down stuff. They're getting the ball to him and space either. A quick swing pass or a true check down if the primary target, isn't there? So still got to tackle him in those instances because he liked again, if he does get to the second level or into some wide open spaces there, he can hurt you. Got it, Brian. Alright, let's turn. Let's turn away from the three-headed monster and kind of look at some other pieces that are offense. Now overall their total offense, you're getting four hundred sixteen yards a game which is good for 43rd and Country.

15:07 So my terrible and they're pretty balanced on offense. We're really neither The Passion of the rubbish, really exploded up into the top 20 where team like you know, Wake Forest really their running game is what carries He's them now they're very efficient in the Red Zone, converting 95% of their chances and you know, 15 of their 22 touchdowns. I scored have come in the red zone so they get down there majority of time. They're scoring touchdowns. Now this team when you lose book, in tackles one who is an absolute beast, from Highland Springs, In McHale pectin, you're going to give up sex and they are, they're giving up about two and a half, two and a half sacks per game 63rd in the country. So in the bottom half, they also give up around nine tackles for loss of game as well.

16:06 So there is you just mentioned with Hawkins about. He's not really going to grow around you. So if you can get them in the backfield and get him down, you're putting them behind the chains. But again, they like the chunk plays. So getting them behind the chains and Obviously, you know, keeping them behind the change is going to be super important for the Hokies but you know, you know, wide receiver you mentioned. We got to to, you know, best Fitzpatrick Branson's, very good. Compliments to to not putting up the numbers he are, but not bad receivers at all. But one guy that we me, and you kind of discussed and you brought them to the light was Marshawn. Ford number 83, six-foot-two 240-pound tight in half back. Unranked Hometown kid playing form so far this year, 18 receptions, 189 yards and four touchdowns. So Brian, what only are you seeing from him? But what else are you seeing?

17:04 Like from their offensive line and this team in general with the other parts of the offense that aren't part of the three-headed monster? So yeah the big thing like I said we highlighted Marshawn forward and he's kind of a kind of a do-it-all HVAC he's usually going to be an HVAC instead of true in line tight in they like to do stuff with him out of the back field especially in the goal line area. So we talked about their Red Zone chances there he does a great job blocking the Red Zone but he also does a great job kind of getting out of the backfield going in motion and just getting open for those touchdowns. He said I think two or three, two or three of those those touchdowns A come in the Red Zone, he had another long one.

17:44 I think that he took the house, I believe it was against Florida State. Or one that I believe I have almost scored on that one. I can't remember if that was the one that got got moved back to the 1-yard line or not. But he's a dynamic player as well, but their offensive line is probably the weakest part of their off to you mention losing two bookends. And you can definitely tell it, especially in the past game, Cunningham is taking a lot of shots this year. The again I noted earlier he got hit a lot against Pitt. That hit a pretty good amount against Notre Dame, got hit probably more than he should. Have considering how well they were moving the football against Florida State. So, you know, he's definitely a guy that's going to take a hit and I think this offensive line is kind of more finesse than power.

18:32 That's why you see some of those plays that Hawkins is running, either get thrown for kind of negative yardage or bust out for the big one if they're able to get on their blocks and stay on their blocks. They end up doing pretty well, but if they don't stay on the blocks, then a lot of times, ha Let's pull down for no gain or loss of a couple yards. So it'll be interesting to see how we attack that offense offensive line and kind of make them think more than they need to. I think that's what we're going to need to do is confuse them a little bit and try to take advantage of the fact that they aren't kind of the road graders. They're more fit up and see what happens.

19:14 Type offensive line. So hopefully we do well with it. All right, let me ask his Brawn to prom. Question, if we slow down on Cunningham, 22 and Hawkins. Can we win this game and how do we slow them? Now, how do we attack this team? You know what I would do to slow down Cunningham in the running game is I would probably let a guy like Tisdale spy Cunningham pretty much the whole game, especially on obvious passing situations. You don't want the quarterback to beat you with this legs especially when he's dropping back in the pocket. So if he tries to escape the pocket, I'd like to have a guy that's athletic like Tisdale but also a good tackler to be able to track him and bring him to the Now, the second thing is, I mean, don't let 22 at will be Tuesday, make him work underneath, make him earn the yards, don't give him 30, 40 yard games in the air, make him have to get them either in the screen game or some of those hitches or outs or things like that. They like to throw in the intermediate game and make them have to catch the ball, secure the ball, make honey, I'm after every accurate ball and not give him. Those sheep Big Shots down the field. How about him?

20:39 They're not all the guys. I think all three of them are like 59. I think 22 you like 170 Hawkins is like 185 or 185 190 at all. Yeah and that's the big thing is that I think if you can make them punish them a little bit, make them pay for it. I've seen Hawkins put the ball on the ground and several times. So there's going to be some opportunities there. You kind of get him in a In a jam there, you know, I've seen guys, pull the ball out on him, so that that's something that will try to take advantage of. I'm sure we've had some success punching the ball out like we saw against Boston College. Hopefully we can maybe replicate some of that. I think some of the delay blitzes would come in handy here that we saw early in the season to kind of confuse Cunningham when he when he does drop back and the most important thing we need to do is just tackle tackle. Well when we get to a position to make a tackle, we make the tackle because if you don't make a tackle in these guys have area to work that's going to be problematic. Yeah, Brian, you talk about tackling the last few things out here, is third down wise.

21:56 They're converting. 40% of their third Downs. They're converting 60% of their third down of their fourth Downs. Excuse me. And, you know, the problems we've had it has not been consistent, but it's sporadically that weight force. It was that drive? It was just like, we could never stop them. And when you see a team that's converting, you know, 40 and 60. It's like, is this another game where their third and three, they get it. Third and six, we stop them. One yard short, but they the risk on Fourth and they push it. I think I could be a big issue for us now. I did see one thing you talked about getting stripped out, we've mentioned the interceptions. They have 12 turnovers so far, so that could be good for us, right?

22:45 Yes. I mean, I think we definitely need to turn them if you're not turning them over at least probably two times in this game. I don't feel very good. All right, so that that now that's my son. The other piece is that we look at ourselves last week with the highest amount of penalties and penalty yards in a Virginia Tech game under Justin Fuente. They are significantly A undisciplined Team all the time. They're 79th in the country with 332 penalty yards and basically in all their ACC games at least six penalties somewhere during the Game. So a little bit of undisciplined there.

23:26 Something you probably would expect as a team is essentially getting turned around from the dumpster fire. So hopefully I'm like last week, it's them making the penalties and giving us. The first downs are backing themselves up and putting themselves in bad situations on both sides of the ball. Yes, I've seen them scenes of holding some face mask. Couple P eyes. I mean they'll commit kind of penalties across the board. It's not any one area that you can really highlight, but they definitely their discipline leave something to be desired. Just like we played last week, hopefully we can stick more to our average and hopefully they'll stick to theirs and I think we'll be okay in that category.

24:13 Absolutely. All right, well let's look to the defense. Take a quick look at that. Just a little statistics and data here. Their Total Defense is 44th in the country. Giving up. 383 yards. A game at about five point seven three per play scoring defense sensually, given about 27 and a half points. 187, rushing yards per game at four point nine one per touch. Again, you feel with what we do on offense, that hopefully can Transit translate to big numbers in that game. Now one interesting piece, Brian. And I don't know if you saw anything while you're going through the tape, but the only give up about 18 first downs, Game.

24:53 It seems like on the low side where when we talked about BC and couple the other teams, those teams were more in the low 20s. So that's kind of interesting to me there. Is it, do they get them off the field or is it? No, they give up three big plays and then you're off the field with the touchdown, okay? In the second apartment, getting about two and a half sacks per game. Seven tackles for loss so they do have a way to create some pressure you know? They've only forced four, turnovers two fumbles, two interceptions. So there are -8 internal category which is probably one reason they're two and four right now and not at three and three, maybe even four and two.

25:41 And then last piece always like to look at third down conversions, they're giving up 45% third down conversion, which translate to 72nd the country. So not good at all Brian. So, Just looking at this Brine and then take a look at what. You did with their skiing. What is this team look like in? What can we what are we looking for on this team? Sure, so the big thing I'll start with the there a base 314 so you not something we've really seen to this point. We've seen some 33, some some 42 and some 245 but their base is going to be a 34 but they do mix front.

26:25 So like on obvious passing Downs They're going to run the nose off, run an extra DB on and got to go with a with a 245 look on some obvious passing Downs there. But when I looked at the tape man so they're D line is not great. Probably the weakest part of their defense. Looks like that's an area that we should be able to attack but they have really athletic linebackers in their secondary please really opportunistic and Zone coverage when it's Passing down this defense is success, is kind of predicated on getting pressure on those downs and they'll do it with the with kind of a variety of kind of Blitz packages and they'll switch up the coverage behind those Blitz packages. So they'll Blitz and and give you a man free look in which case we would need to find the mismatch if they give a kind of cover three combo coverage.

27:20 We need to look for the check down or the crossing route to take advantage of some of those linebackers and coverage and if it's kind of a cover 3 Zone Blitz, we just need to find the void. See if they got a route in that area and take advantage there. But that's what they like to do. On the passing Downs is bring that pressure and try to make you make a mistake or get a sack, whatever it may be, so, but they play a good show when they're in that cover three look. So, we're going to again, like, we, like I talked about last week, we're going to have to kind of take our shots underneath that. And not keep trying to press the ball. Deep down the field. Say it again.

28:05 Stop throwing Fades. It's okay. Occasionally, it's not okay. Every time we get in third and long so I'd like to, you know, hopefully see us utilize some of the quick passing game and, you know, they usually play more of a straight cover three. But occasionally, they'll go into like a quarter quarter half look and like I said, And when they sometimes go on this blitzes it'll be kind of a man free look, so a single high safety. All right, Brian. Brian you mentioned the two athletic linebackers really stood out to you. And you know that's CJ, Avery the 5-11 230-pound inside linebacker who was a composite four-star, coming out of Mississippi, a top 247 player in the country.

28:50 So far this year, 40 tackles one interception, three tackles for loss, and one sack and then the other is Monty Montgomery. The Juco transfer 32 tackles seven-and-a-half tackles for loss for sale. tax kind of just looking at that and in hearing you talk about it, you know, am I wrong in saying Avery's the backbone of the defense, but Montgomery's that guy you kind of worry about That's a pretty accurate assessment. Like Avery's the all-around guy. He does a lot of things really well. And Monty Montgomery is the disrupter. He's great in pursue.

29:30 He shoots gaps in the backfield. He's good at Rushing the passer when they Blitz led the team in sacks last year. So that tells you something there but CJ Avery, I mean, he's, he's the balance kind of do it all guy, he tackles well, he plays well in coverage, tackles in space. And he's had a pic against Pitt and returned it for some decent yardage throws guys, for some tackles for loss in the running game. So he really does it all. He's the Sound Player, he's where he needs to be while Monte Montgomery's more of the the freestyler that completely disrupt your play if he guesses, right? All right, but what are some things like you saw against some of the games that work that we might implement?

30:18 Yeah, so I'll say something and you can tell me what you think about this pit rush for over 150 yards against this defense. Well, that's no one fit and how their offense works and knowing they gas for 150. That makes me feel better about us running the football this week. Yeah, well at least put us in the 250 just by default we should be Kind of over that to 150. So, That's kind of been our bread and butter. This year, Herbert should be able to The edge of more consistency, we should be able to use Blackshear and our wide receivers in more, the jet motion game and in some of the outside runs whether it's the sweep or some of the other items that we kind of worked in here

31:51 and there. So I like that. And I'm hoping that we can throw the ball well enough. In kind of the different levels of the defense that we need to. So they can't just keep throwing a Hard Eight box out us the whole game because if we can do that, we should be able to solve them up. I did see that both pit and Notre Dame had some success in like the counter and screen game. So I expect to see some of that thrown out there as well. Okay. They they like to get kind of fooled by Some of the window dressing and motion before a snap. So might be able to get them to over-pursue or or look the wrong direction at the snap of the football.

32:36 So there might be some opportunities there. Got it, Brian. So again we're you're talking and saying good things, but I'm always concerned about who's at the controls. So let's let's go, let's go to this, let's go to pivotal players because obviously you know we've got to know who we should be looking at is hokey fans this week and kind of deciding how we're going to win this game and we landed on 11 because he literally played his His worst game as a hokey and in hookers, one and hidden hookers. One also for the other reason, and you would let me put him on here. But I'll let you know.

33:22 All right, so hookers on here because number one hooker played a bad game last last week. It needs to get out there redeem himself. And number two is that we're going to need hooker both running. And passing this week, we're not going to be able to settle on him, just having success in the running game and only hitting a few passes. While throwing three picks, we can't do that again. We need him running the inverted. V r with the Reeds would even with the Zone reads. We need him to actually be reading this situation. Not just, it being a Jet Sweep or an outside Zone, we need to have him reading the play, whether it's place out on the inverted beer, whether it's backside on the Zone, read and making plays with his legs.

34:05 But also throwing to those wide receivers. On those quick passes outside Crossing routes, which are going to be important to kind of beat those man. Underneath coverages and screens to take advantage of some of their over Pursuit and ability to Fall for the window dressing before the snap. So he's going to be the play. But what's going to be more important? Is that, as you said, break or Nelson, needs to call a much better game than be called against wake for hooker to have that type of game as well. So hopefully that they're both in sync this week and hooker plays well and executes, and cornelison is calling a game that doesn't Make a bad situation worse. Like you did last week?

34:53 Absolutely. Alright. Number two on the list. Brian something you already mentioned jet sweeps. We put Rahim Blackshear because I will say this last week in the Wake Forest game when the jet sweeps for called not deep down inside the Red Zone they were a very effective play it. They were they the only two times they didn't go positive when we were in shorts. In the end, all the others we saw what, like a 12 and then a 10 yard gain and I think one more like six yard game so positive yardage. You know, for the Hokies where it's, that's really great to have. Because as you just pointed out, You said, you felt a couple of those Jet Sweep calls last week. They were strictly jet sweeps.

35:43 There were no reads on it and we made it look like a hooker was just carrying out of fake, not actually reading, especially on the one. Unless T I did look like he was reading because the one that he gave to Blackshear inside the 10 that just got completely ate up for like a seven-yard loss. If he keeps it, he walks into the The End Zone. Oh yeah. Got a blocker. And there's only one guy that stopped him and he's got space to maneuver, so we I think he wants in there. So let's see, completely misread there but he will. It looked like he wasn't even carrying out his fake strong. So I don't think it was a true re but I could be wrong.

36:25 But that that's what I'm that's what's in my head based on what I saw there. So for Blackshear it's going to be two things here man. So I want us to start running more, 21 Personnel. We ran it some against weight especially when we had black shirt on the field on the jet ski. I want more of it and I want more three wide receiver sets versus some of the sets out there with Mitchell and Gallo. Just because I think I want to spread this defense out a little bit. They have two linebackers that are very good. I don't need more guys in the Box. Gumming up the running game. So I want to see three wide receiver sets. I want to see 21 Personnel where we can use Blackshear in the slot in the weighing and maybe even, you know, getting a traditional carry from the backfield and putting Herbert somewhere else.

37:19 So there's so many options that you can do there. I know I've talked about it, probably ad nauseam at this point. Probably listeners are getting a little tired of broad, so I've done with 21 Personnel. No, no, what? No, we haven't found a consistent third wide receiver. Why not leave this guy on the feet? It's very true. And the other piece about you talk about running 21, running three wide sets and things like that brine. Is you noticed last week and this is something we, you didn't see it until a little further into reviewing the Wake Forest game later this week. A lot of our sets were what two main routes. We were keeping six and seven to a, do a Max protect where it's like, we're taking shots.

38:00 And you're sitting here saying, A drove. You crazy because you knew to beat that team. We needed underneath. We needed to build a little pieces here and there into your point. They were loading the box, right? Well, if we had put Tre and even James and Rahim in some way and you force them to what if you still want to play in the box, that means you're leaving nobody behind you in the cases where what we were doing with putting gallo and Mitchell in. Is essentially. Well now you can still need one safety out back to help with the Deep passes. So yeah. Alright let's let's jump to number three on the offensive pivotal players brine.

38:43 You mentioned earlier we mention them by name with Avery and Montgomery the dynamic inside linebacker Duo. Who's the third most important person in my life? Because I mean those are going to be the guys that are consistently throughout the game. So they're going to need to have a really good game for us to be able to have the big night. We're going to need in the running game to win this game, so I look for them. I mean, Hoffman in particular, he's going to be pivotal in. Not only neutralizing, the news, almost Please but also some of the handoffs in the zone where he's going to combo with a guard up to the up to a linebacker. So look for him to have a big game if we're going to have some success against this defense.

39:37 You know we're also talking about Nestor HUD and unless the Smith needing to have some, some big games as well, depending on what iteration of the offensive line ends up out there whether it's too new to back at, right tackle or whether they go. Go back with with Nestor back at right tackle with HUD at Right Guard. So be interesting to see if there's any shifts there because you know we noted last week that new to had kind of a rough game. So I don't know if there's going to be more fidgeting around with those rotations or if they're going to stick with what they had and just chalk it up to two new, to still working his way back into the swing of things. Absolutely. Right. I think you put we put them on here too because of what you mentioned about This defense, it's not a good defensive line.

40:24 The secondary has to take chances to be successful if the interior offensive line neutralizes Montgomery and Avery, then it could be a very long night for Louisville or if anything, they know they're going to be in a track meet against. Yeah. Let's look through the defensive side of the ball. Obviously number one, we gave it away earlier, but we'll still maintenance, you know? It was the first name. Brian mentioned about continually Italian Allen Tisdale. We talked about Tisdale, the reason I liked his day on this is because it's a linebacker that you can use in the spiral because of his athleticism versus having to take Connor or one of the safeties out of coverage in the zone. So I like that a little bit better and it's a guy that's kind of more in the middle of the defense versus kind of those Edge guys where they like to attack. So look for Tisdale to be key there in the spiral hopefully that comes to fruition in terms of what I The matchup is there because I think you would be perfect to kind of neutralize Cunningham in the quarterback run game. You know, we talked about second here is going to be those defensive backs man and it's funny when we went through this we were both like defensive back and I was like oh the corners yeah it makes sense and you know like know the defensive back I'm like the safeties.

41:48 You're like no. Bonds basically say everybody in the backend and is more here saying, everyone's job. That has any deep responsibility in this game? Do not let 22 at will get behind you. That's what that's, that's the primary thing. If you if you do nothing else. I want the second thing I want you to do is tackle, but the first thing I want to do is not let 22 at will get behind you if you do those two things, well we're probably going to be okay. At least in the passing game. Absolutely right. Third one run and I think you probably put these on here because we are going to be missing a primary starter in Jerrod you in the first half, you know, with the targeting penalty, not going to be there but also we're reading Mike more of a Richmond Times saying it looks like the Sean Crawford is close to getting back.

42:47 We'll also seeing that Kendricks could get to start to putting some more size up front and Why do you feel other than is it just is it just having Hewitt, not there for a half? Is that one reason you wanted to put them in this Slaughter? Is there some other reason to run? There's some other reasons, you know, we've kind of thrown it back and forth obviously Hewitt is our most experienced player. He's kind of the the juice guy on this team and Pollard is more of the he's athletic, but he's undersized. I'm interested to see how we get some of these bigger deal. Offensive tackles playing some more snaps for us because we've seen some success with with fuga.

43:28 In there playing significant snaps. He's had success, essentially not getting moved out of the pocket of some of the gaps and some of the smaller guys have I'm interested to see how Kendricks and Crawford can hold up, is there more of the like 290? Not not quite what we're looking for. Probably in this newer scheme on the defensive side. But Closer than kind of our to Frontline guys have been so far this season so I'm hoping for maybe some more success with some of these bigger guys lining up in there. Hopefully they won't get moved off again.

44:08 This is not, you know, a road grader type team. I'll call the the offensive line that we played against you and see kind of like a finesse Power Team. This is definitely more of a straight finesse team so I'm hoping that we're going to, we're going to have some success if it's Shooting those gaps, getting the penetration and making Hawkins not be able to get to the second level where he can really do some damage. So if we, if we can have some success there, I feel good about it. Like I said, he would not being in there is definitely a blow leadership wise and energy wise. But I'm hoping that some of the matchups that we have might end up being in our favor a little bit more, having more more size there in the interior.

44:54 Got it wrong. All right. Well let's move on to get a prediction down here for the game. Brian, I led the last week fell flat on my face so I'm going to let you leave this week. All right. Thank you. Thank you. I think this is going to be at. I think it's going to be a tight one. I have faith in our offense is going to bounce back, so I think we're going to play a lot better game. A lot more sound football, not make the errors. I mean we had a combination of turnovers and penalties last week. We haven't really seen that in a long time. So give me the Hokies. 35:31.

45:42 Let's put you down for 3531, for jigna tech line would is 3 right now. Rope hook, he's as a road, favorite Brian. First time for everything right? Yep well I can't do it because I can't because my face against the picking against a good guy, hope I'm wrong. Hope I'm wrong by a lot of points. But what I saw last week is when we got down in that red zone was atrocious and I think that's going to bite Us in the ass this week. I think we're going to move the ball more on them and they will on us.

46:26 I just think we're going to come up short and have Brian Johnson, kicking field goals versus stuffing it in the end zone because we're going to do some stupid play calling inside the 15 inside the 10 that backs us up or slows us down. And I hate saying that. I really do.

47:16 And hopefully a joke on me because I don't want to be right. But that I've got to go with what I'm feeling and what I'm seeing and I want this team to prove it to me. Okay okay so you got Thirty One Thirty Thirty One Thirty Louisville. Thank you. See we're going to be and we're going three, touchdowns three field goals. Going to struggle, putting some of those drives away. We're going to get down there more. We are not going to convert as many times them. Okay? So you think they're going to be four out of five? Yep. Well, I don't know. You I think they're going to get at least one, maybe two deep balls.

47:59 We saw it in Carolina. And that's okay, but I also think they're going to hit some more and get down there. When they get down, we're going to convert. We're going to get down there a lot more. We're just not going to convert because we're going to do something that doesn't make sense. There's going to be a play where we're sitting at the 4-yard line with first and goal and the interior line has been getting and just wiping out there inside linebackers and we're going to try like some fake tossed. We're going to go talk short side or toss and we just something that makes no sense. And and luckily, I will have to keep my my mouth.

48:42 Kind of quiet. We will be going over to the In-laws to do a Halloween, candy hunt in the year. We'll get to watch the game but won't get the cursed loudly. All right, Braun, let's flip it, ACC pics. Let's do a recap real quick last week. Last week you came out, the gate firing 5 and 0 and then lost three straight games. Thanks to Miami. Thanks to Minnesota. And I think your third eye gamer who it was, but five and three hours forward and for saved late by Michigan. This week, we're going, we're going for in conference, three out of conference, some pretty good games. Some couple we got four double digit lines that we have to make a bet on this week Brahma.

49:31 So it's gonna be really interesting. Let's start with the team. We just played there playing Syracuse this week staircase. Wake Forest, wait for slain ten and a half points. Brian since you are so gracious to lead the last one. I'm going to leave this one. Give me way and give me the points. I think Syracuse played the best they could play last weekend. I think they're going to come down a little bit. I think I think we force win this game by 17 with their sound defense, solid Run game and effective passing game. I am right there with you and there's zero recency bias attached to this /s. Yeah, so there's a little sarcasm. There are definitely some recently buys attached to you, there's no way for me to really separate that, but I still think wake is the better team and I think they're, at least a 13-point 13-point winter here.

50:29 So give me wait and then points, Alright, the next game, the biggest spread of the week were picking Boston College, Clemson Clemson, laying 17 points less than last week, but laying still 30 and a half points against BC. Brian, what are you feeling on this one? Clemson Clemson, Clemson.

51:26 Yeah, I think about a half where they were never pressed, but it was closer than they wanted it to be. So I think they come out a lot more Focus this week, I'm going to take Clemson laying the 30 and a half me too. Well, I think also, what BC likes to do plays into what Clemson Frank, there's this year, which is their secondary. So, yeah, I think your coach is going to have a pretty rough game. Both of us laying the 30 and a half at Clemson. All right, Brian, we have another big line here at Notre, Dame. Notre Dame laying 20 points now. Brian, Georgia, Tech has burned.

52:12 You numerous times this year numerous times of late Notre, Dame is also burned. the two teams that I think the most unpredictable, even though Notre Dame on the top end on the beneficial side, in terms of still, still winning the game but not convincingly and then Georgia Tech, you know, beating a team like Whew. FSU and Louisville but just getting smoked by a team like Syracuse, so it doesn't make sense. But I do say this, I do think because of Notre, Dame's defense has been its one consistent all year. One consistent all year, less the FSU game with the new quarterback where they hadn't had any tape. They really want, given up a lot of points. I think they can cover this.

53:09 I really think I see them like running 31, you know, 31 10:35, you know, 14. So I wasn't vote of no confidence in Georgia Tech's offense. Notre Dame is just to sound of a defense with the not athletes. You know, that's that's the issue were George. You're essentially saying Notre Dame's going to get to 28 and Georgia Tech. I'm like, I'm right there with you, buddy. What do you think that?

54:17 Just seems like a low-lying. What is UVA done anywhere? Anything to be impressive. And somebody said, well, they kept Miami to 19 points that game was in a monsoon and Miami continue to drive the ball. Every time they touched it, The one thing and let's talk about this a little bit. What's been the one thing that's really her tva's defense? Most of this season? If you watch any other games, what's been different this year that they that they couldn't that they were really good at last year that they're not really great at this year. That's rough.

54:57 I'm thinking, okay, what, what is Miami not do? Well, well, there, there an air raid, there it is. Other than one game, you looked pretty good to great.

55:37 I hate both of these things, but I'm taking you and see laying the seven I'm with you two. I don't see. I just don't see how it's a seven. And you can say, well, you know, they did lose to Florida State. Well. Okay. But What a state least has some athletes on the outside and athletic quarterback. I mean UVA We Lay last weekend, they burned us because they got that touchdown late. I think we were it was they got to 12 and Miami would keep getting down there. Like okay here comes the score that we're going to get back to over 12 and a half and they did.

56:19 UVA. I don't think UNC has beat both programs like it in the state both times. I think they will this year lay the sudden points. And and just try to figure out why it is that low. All right, Brian, let's go out of conference. Let's head over to the state of Texas versus Oklahoma State. Oklahoma state is only lying, three and a half. We got the hook last week, the hook got us. They won that game by 3. I believe Iowa, state scored a late, something to get it back with them. And I'm going to go back and look up that because, you know, I was doing stuff during that game will primarily I was over my neighbor's yard during that game last week.

57:10 What am I talking about? But let me look here. Yes, Iowa. With 49 seconds, left scored a touchdown to beat this friend. Be the bad B&B. I will state has a good defense, right? We agree Matt Campbell pretty good. Defense has Texas. Anybody this year. No, the they stop Baylor and yeah, Baylor's covid riddled the other games that Texas has played. They gave up 53 to Oklahoma, they gave up 33 to TCU. They gave up 56. To Texas Tech second.

57:53 Wait a second, still scoring on them. I think they take the Longhorns to the shed. Maybe this could be it for Herman. This could be the game that if he loses. I don't think they fire them until the end of the year because of the money situations, but I think Oklahoma State here. We are agreeing a lot here, buddy, and I'm okay with that because it's better than me, right? Then be interesting for the last couple weeks, but that's right.

58:35 You know, I'm right there with you, that is awful. I just don't think Texas has enough on offense to keep up with what a few States going to do to that defense. So yeah, I'll take Okie State. Lay the three and a half, man. All right. I think it's probably closer than the experts. Think, some people that are talking about this game, but I think it's like a touchdown know that I've found you both teams break 30. Yeah, I'd say like 35 42 somewhere in that range.

59:18 I'm trying to see some here and give me a second it's a for it's a four pm game. So won't be seeing that one or maybe we'll be seeing that one alone watching the hope. He's alright let's go to SEC country next. Brian Auburn LSU LSU Lane three points. What do you think? Brian this one's tough and neither team has really been great this year relative to kind of what people were kind of putting on them to start the season. I think we had a lot of questions about LSU. I think Auburn's, probably underperformed relative to what we kind of thought we were going to be especially after week one. I'm going to take actually Auburn to win this one out, right?

1:00:11 Ryan takes Auburn. Not so fast. You are out of your mind on this. Have you not seen how many games that Auburn has won because of the officiating? I have you have, do you think that they want a team ranked by the name of LSU in a few weeks when LSU goes and plays? Alabama, they certainly would prefer that. Yes, yes, they would. And I don't care if this is on the planes or not, unless you scored 52 last week against a better defensive team in South Carolina, this Is my legal limit.

1:00:56 That right here. I see LSU winning this one, at least by 17. Wow, Can score points on LSU. So kind of all bets are off. It is, but that offense down at Auburn hasn't done too, too much. So, do you say Auburn wins out, right? I see, LSU wins.

1:01:39 Big covers. All right, let's get the big thing country. Next, fine for really, what is the game of the week Penn State? Ohio State in Happy Valley, which whether you love Penn State, hate Penn State. Love Ohio, State hate principal Truth regardless regardless whether you love them or hate them, this game usually Penn State would be the whiteout thing which is it cool ass tradition in again covid this year? That's the stuff we're missing. That's true. Are you going to get back to? Because as much as we dislike both programs, if somebody said we got tickets, you guys can go to both of these stadiums and we'd look into say, well, what's Virginia Tech's game? One of they playing does it over? No, we go in a heartbeat.

1:02:32 So for this one, Bryan, Ohio State Road. Favorite. Usually, he rode favorite. You think what? Field goal maybe touchdown. Yeah, eleven and a half. That is so many points. That is because of that and how Penn State likely will play this game. I think Penn State can keep it close enough. I think Ohio State's going to win probably by either Polly, I'd say by ten points. So I'm going to be cutting it close, but I think Penn State stays with them, you know, last week we saw during that Ohio State Nebraska game, the pieces. I saw a lot of targeting penalties on Nebraska getting rid of some of their better players on the back end. I think that's not cleaned up, but I just think just kind of game.

1:03:32 They swallow the whistles a little bit more. Give me Penn State late, eleven and a half. Okay, okay, I'm right there with you, man. We have one disagreement. And State plays with a chip this week after that, last second. Oh, holy shit game of inches moment that they lost to little last week.

1:04:20 I mean, and there were some coaching issues on there in terms of how it like managing clock at the end of the game. And Areas where they're not taking a knee. Yeah. Yeah. They're so there's a lot of a lot of problems that that led to Indiana getting the opportunity, which they took full advantage of once they did get the opportunity there. So I think Penn State cleans up those things and I think they keep it closed. Think it's like somewhere between a six and eight point victory for OSU, but I don't think it's it's Meats that 11 to half line. So give me Penn State. I'll take them 11, a half again, so our state. All right, we'll look it down.

1:05:08 Alright. Alright. What you smoking seeing this weekend? Alright. This weekend I'm doing some spatchcock chicken. Go on going. Just going just smoking a spatchcock. Chicken. Stir It Up. Probably going to do some some fun size with it. Maybe some smoked baked beans to go along on the side, but going to keep it more simple this weekend. Nothing. Nothing too crazy. I'd always loved doing spatchcock. Chicken. The cooks pretty quick, pretty even get some chicken so good, with some smoked flavor in there. So any foul usually, usually takes them over really. Well, always does, man, although he does anything breaking in the last hour or so that we've been recording. Oh man, I don't see anything of no, I think we're good. I did see a couple people including myself debating, whether mac and cheese belongs on a, on a plate. And I'm definitely in the hell.

1:06:12 Yes, category on a plate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Yeah, that's still like, the traditional, like soul food plate. You got some fried chicken mac and cheese, collard green cornbread, and someone's like, take the mac and cheese off the plate. No way. No, no, no, there's a debate about The fans Bachelor podcast. Always put the mac and cheese on the plate. So alright. Alright, there we go. Well, that will wrap up this episode of The Boundary Corner podcast.

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