WVU Game Preview

0:45 Welcome back to be boundary Corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian Sigler, buddy. Wednesday night. We back pump, we back is hump day. It doesn't feel like fall outside. We value, you know, we're clipping the 90s this week for whatever reason we went from like it's that, what is this? This is false fall, right? If the eight seasons of Virginia whether oh yeah, we're currently in false fall. We got like the week of the North Carolina game was fall. Perfect, like 79 degrees during the day. What low 70s? Mid 60's during the game? Cool.

1:28 Nah. Nah, he's hot brutal, weather. Not some ribs as one last Roar here, before it goes quietly into the night. There needs to go. I'm I'm I'm done with Summer the pools. Pretty much closed. The kids are in school. I ain't asking what once I get back from vacation kind of like Late July after. After my anniversary, I'm kind of like, all right. Right? Y'all can keep the rest of the summer. Let's bring on Fall. Yeah, I mean, thankfully, thankfully, we have a podcast and we follow football. So August kind of goes by pretty quick for us, August flies by when you're on a podcast. And once August hits in every facet, it's it flies by the next thing.

2:12 You know, we are going to Blink and maybe seven to ten days. It is going to be 80 degrees for a high note humidity, the nights are going to be perfect at the fire pit out. But as of right now, for the rest of this week here in the r-va and I believe throughout most greater Virginia. Yeah, we're sticking in the mid-80s. Looks like we get some low 80s starting next week. So, fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. She chose up. I'm definitely ready for fire pit and outdoor movie nights and we're still about 10 or 15 degrees away from that. We are definitely that so folks, before we get into deep topic, welcome to hate week 1.0 the battle for the Black Diamond trophy is upon us.

3:02 It has been four years since we played the West Virginia Mountaineers back in 2017 up at FedEx. Yep, I think it's bull that they got the first home game. In this series, they'll be coming to the Lane next year before we get deep diving into that. We do have a few things. We want to take a look at first and let's start kind of around the ACC brined earlier this week announced filled your kovich, the quarterback up out of BC is now done for the year. I'm going to go ahead and say it this pretty much flips my prediction of that from a win or a loss to a win. In just not knowing who the backup is as of yet. And you know he was that guy if he took the step he was going to get them to be the you know 2nd to 4th best team and now he's gone.

3:59 Well that's you I'm kind of right there with you. I think that this was a game that playing in hostile environment and just the skill level. That BC was showing they were starting to kind of climb that mountain a little It huh? Not having that quarterback is going to be a big deal. I feel like this goes from a kind of a lien BC to at least a toss-up for us, right? Um, I think it's now lean Tech. I mean because if you go there, I can definitely go there. But uh, I'm trying to be a little conservative here. I don't want to Discount would be seized doing here. But, you know, I think in terms of getting the ball down the field, they're going to struggle a little bit. The It is going to be, can they replace that with what seems to be a little bit of an improved defense and somewhat improved running game?

4:53 So yeah, we shall see. Yeah, the backup is Dennis Grassle. He did play some last year for BC, let me see if I can get his testicle numbers up here. He played last year to the tune of 54 attempts. 37 completion, 68% 568. So six touchdowns three interceptions. So not terrible for last year. He obviously played in some in last week's game against UMass as I feel went down, you know again time, we'll see but to me, you don't go from a guy like your kovich to the back up it's half. He's going to have his work.

5:40 Cut out for him and maybe the way you can say it's a toss-up for you now is now they have six weeks to get prepared for us or to find the groove of what we're going to do. While we don't, you know, While we don't know what beholds for us yet, true, although the same time we've got tape on their backup quarterback, which if this happened the week before, we don't exactly know, what type of game plan they're going to have for me this point. By the time we see them will know what they like to do with rasul and can prepare for it on defense. Very, very, very true. All right. Next is look at Georgia Tech, Jeff Sims went out against Northern Illinois.

6:23 Did not play against Kenneth Allstate Yates, the backup took over and for me. That's what's your thoughts on this so far? Brian with Sims out. Haven't heard much if he's going to play this week against Clemson. I mean, that's that's a, that's a struggling situation. That's, you're adding insult to injury there, right? You? Jeff says, it's probably the most consistent element of team last year. And losing him week one, not having a week to haven't heard a whole lot about his availability this week that definitely definitely limits their ceiling.

7:05 And it was a ceiling that was bouncing around already, right? So you know it's going to depend on how long he's out in terms of what Georgia Tech's able to do over the coming weeks. Is he out another three to four weeks there? Is he out just another one or two? Well, regardless, if he's out just one or two or if he's back this week against Clemson for them, those first two games against Northern Illinois and Kennesaw State, we're going to be his in game development games. Where he can get on the field, they can try plays, they can see what he's seen because now this is the way their schedule looks up until Virginia Tech, okay? You're a headache, Clemson, North Carolina it, they then have Duke then UVA then, uh, so you John, you see you John. So, it's like, they're not coming into playing lesser opponents to give him time to again. Get that in game development.

8:06 Comment, give us feedback from owners, like go play, Clemson, then go play North Carolina, then play pit, you're playing one elite. Team one good team, one solid team. You finally get Duke and then you get UVA before you get text. So those first two games, as we used to see it in the past building confidence, finding plays, you know, work with the guy and that's gone. So it's going to be interesting if he does come back as he automatically back or is Yates the guy. Yeah. And I mean, it seems like like we said in terms of where that ceiling is, you feel like Jeff Sims, probably gets them higher but much, how they may be able to work worked back up in there for the last couple weeks is probably going to have them again this week.

8:56 Maybe just a but there's no riding the hot hand, right? No, there's no no. It's because there's not a hot hand there is, and it's also the level Sims is a look. He's an elite athlete. That to me with the way Georgia Tech is right now. He has to be out there. He's gonna give him the best chance to win, so it's just going to be interesting if he does come back against Clemson a against that defense with really kind of going to be your first true game. I mean, that's going to get ugly, I mean, and we'll talk about that line a little bit later and what I'd be willing to lay, all right, Brian, even though this is an ACC news, it's college football news.

9:38 To me, it has a potential big trickle down for Virginia Tech and for the east coast in general clay Helton gets fired Monday after losing to Stanford by essentially getting blown out by a Stanford team that did not look like. It could play the previous week against Kansas State and every name under your mother's popping up, Urban Meyer, Jack Del Rio Eric, be on the knee. Tonio. You sing got thrown out there but the one that got said again and we've heard it in the past James Franklin. Yeah, I mean, I know Dan Patrick made the announcement this morning that there is mutual interest between the two parties. I don't know what, what degree that means. That, you know, Franklin is the leader in the clubhouse terms of what they want at at Southern Cal, but it's going to be interested in.

10:36 I see from the trickle-down because you in the last, you know, Max been been coming across the border into into the 757 the last two to three years, but James Franklin has been dipping his toes down in Virginia for the last eight or nine. Yeah, and it's been, you know, especially as the skill positions you seen running backs in particular taking their talents up to Penn State, so it will be nice to see him go. So if for no other reason, that more than likely, the next guy in probably at least is going to take a year or two to get get his legs under him for the recruiting starts to uptake again.

11:18 Well, the question is, can pin State grab another Elite. Recruiter, like James Franklin, they had Bill O'Brien before that you had Joe Papp for all the years before that Franklin was an elite recruiter. He is a good coach and of his in-game decisions can be questioned here and there but he would Vanderbilt in the top 25. And your rights who will happen when seasons of Penn State's of. Well, I don't know, I mean, a Big Ten title Rose Bowl. I mean, a bunch of different stuff. He has been coming down and he's not just been coming down to 75. It's been all over, Virginia grabbing the talent, the biggest differential between him and Mac is Max going particular to one area?

11:59 Yes, he did get the yes he did get Jennings out of here in the RV. A Max also 68 years old And the thing with Mac right now, they have a big game this weekend. They've already lost, Virginia Tech. And now it's, you know, you already saw the didn't Jenny's tweet something after the game, like what like, yeah, dude, like UNC doesn't hold a candle when it comes to Tech Penn State. It's just been tough because it's almost like when Franklin got his hands, and his claws into a recruit. We could get it back, we'd be on track with somebody. You here. Oh good, we this is great.

12:39 We're probably going to land in, he comes in makes a visit, gets the claws, take some back. Now, I'm going to say this this and this is me being a college football fan. If you are James Franklin and you want to win a National Title, your best bet is to go to USC Penn State. He has been stacking essentially, top 12 classes. I know they have the number to class right now in the country, I believe or number one. I think that'll change as, you know, the biggest dogs get the highest in Tallinn over the next five months. Yep. But USC has the Introduced at top five classes on top of each other. And it is a national brand, so he still could come to Virginia in attempt to get Talent.

13:27 You could go anywhere in attempt to get Talent. So he also doesn't have to leave his State. You also doesn't have to really his City recruit in California is very true. I mean, the the amount of talent just in, you know, hour and a half of the campus is incredible. It's true. It's a crazy amount. That's true. John he can't get over the Ohio State. He can't get over the Ohio State, huh? And the reason he can't get Ohio State hump, how state is stacking top five classes on each other? Yep you know he's got the one win he's competed with them.

14:08 So you know I think it's the move after the season unless he you know does something crazy and wins a national title. That's the only way I can't see him leaving. Yeah, I don't think they're quite there yet. There are good team this year, although he they are catching Ohio state is probably as weak as they've been in a while. True, but you also now have a wounded, Ohio State, and usually, when Ohio state gets wounded as when they play their best, all that they put to a put you know somewhat of a duck out there and then kind of played 1/2 down to an opponent before putting them away. So yeah.

14:50 It's true, man. All right, next we are going to turn to Hokies news and notes and on Saturday night we maybe we shouldn't have said it Brian, but it was said, looks like James Mitchell's, okay? The news comes down earlier this week. James out with a knee injury rest of the season. Will have surgery is an absolute gutshot. Big-time big-time got shot. And let's talk about the announcement first because I'm not sure what went down with that weather was a miscommunication or what was going on. Whether, you know, in terms of his his well-being and whether he was going to be good to go to the sounded like postgame, they thought he was going to be good to go to, at least, get some practice in and then play against West Virginia, and then we got, you know, not just different news, but in the communities that direction, right?

15:45 So that's a little disappointing. I'm not sure where the disconnect in the information channel was there but let's let's not focus on that. Let's focus on the player and you know, we talked about him being a talent him being versatile. But the one thing I think we're going to miss the most is the on-field leadership. Yep. That he brought to the table. He was kind of a calming effect but also that leader that, you know, when He barked people, listen. Yep. It's very true. And now, the question is, who amongst the offensive skill players steps up into that role? Because on the line, you've obviously got Brock and lettuce who they bark everybody listens. So who is among that skill set does Burmeister step up into the type role.

16:32 Is it trade Turner? Is it someone else? We don't quite know yet, but that's got to happen. It's got to have the calming effect because you know, we joke about The governor. That's what he was. It was one of those. Everybody listen to him, we're going to miss so much that leadership, the versatility, I mean, his run blocking, which looked even better than it did last year and you know? So now what we've got to turn the page, you know, we got to turn the page and we've got to look in, I don't hate saying this, this was one position that if the top guy went down, Would probably going to be okay.

17:16 Your ceiling Falls, but the floor is still pretty high, right? Yes. So I think that's a good thing for that position because there's other positions that, you know, when the ceiling goes down, the floor goes out, we all we all must go to the floor to so, right? But having Nick Gallo in trade to Louis as, as kind of the back up there, that's going to be big because they not only had some A lot of game game reps at this point if they have. But, you know, you also have a little bit of a kind of two guys that can together. Do some of the things that James Mitchell did is one person, right? So we talked about it until he but you know Nick better little bit better in the blocking game and Red Zone touches where his drinks a little bit better in the open field, on some of those throwback screens and things like that. So the more athletic little bit more fluid And I'm interested to see Gallo though, because I think Gallows going to get more snaps.

18:20 I think if Gallo has any, if he has 70% of what James Mitchell path, if it shows it needs to show quick, because he's essentially, because James is so good at what he does. Gallo in a way has been sort of Pigeon-holed into that role and you say like you're out, you're out, you're blocking tight in, you're not going to go out on routes when I will send you up to seem not all the time as he called some balls. Yes. But now it's going to be your one egg. What can you do? Yeah. I mean if you've got that that tight in one route set you're giving that to Mitchell every time, right? So absolutely, yeah.

19:01 Well we'll see if Gallo can step into that role and do and do a little bit with that. But what we talked about third tight end, we actually have John here talking about third side in. Well, you know, we're going Connor blumrich here, actually are cute. Cute qb3 becomes tight. Ten 33. Yes. And Chris Coleman said it and I think a lot of people were thinking it but Cohen from TS L said it. Me and you had bounced it off each other via text. It's some point. I'm on the James Mitchell news was announced but luckily, Connor got in and got some live touches.

19:45 I don't know how good his hands are, you know, there were reports that he had some sort of similar role to an HVAC. Type role at am sure some games. But yeah, I mean he's 65, he's 220 pounds, he's definitely not going to you're not going to look at in line blocking, but he's definitely could be a joker tight end or run H back out of the backfield. I think if there is a creative, Heart of our offensive mind. It has to come alive now. Yeah. Well, because this is jeans is versatility. It was really hard to replace that but I feel like you can buy committee do all the things that you were doing before you just have to do with different Personnel, right?

20:32 Yeah. And I think Connor helps add to that. Just because of his, his overall athleticism and his top end speed there. Good. You know, again, we haven't seen his hands. What that looks like yet. We've seen him with the ball in his hand running, looks good doing that, very good and let's let's talk about what I mean. When I say we don't notice hands look like like if he's got you guys a step or two on somebody and you throw him the ball, I think he's going to catch the ball for throwing a throwback screen, you know, when he's open it and, you know, traffic or anything like that, he's on catch those. What I'm working certain about, is he going to catch, you know, that That seemed with a guy on his back shoulder, is he going to catch that ball? That's kind of thrown high in the end zone where he has to go up and get it and win that battle. Those are those are the catches that I'm concerned about because we don't know what that looks like yet. But you know if you get this guy the ball in space I have no question that he can do some damage. Oh no.

21:31 Not at all. I mean just look at him in the way he ran especially on that 30-yard run when he gets the ball and he has a crease he can get going. Obviously we saw even I think, even what made you feel even better was running that gold on package that he ran? He took some contact. He took the pit. So you almost feel like, okay, he's not going to shy away from contact. That's kind of his role now. It's like go in there and, you know, bust it open. But other than him I mean really he's the option. Yeah, he's the option. I think we're going to, I mean, potentially we're gonna see more.

22:12 Three-wide sets. Hopefully in bronze eyes, we see more duel running back sets to change the pace up a little bit but that and like we said, we've talked about was getting one mark on the field. I mean, that creates the mismatches there as well. So we'll create the same creative, go ahead, that was some creative things. We can do Personnel was to to really keep defenses on their toes. Despite not having James Mitchell in there, it's just going to use is our coordinator is Our offensive coaching staff going to take advantage of that. Yeah, the other thing about you talk about mismatches, also the possibility of a trick play. We know the guy has been a quarterback. So I hate to say this, I'm not hate to say this, but I like saying this, you get down inside the 10 and you decide to run a little sweet with him, and you do that behind the quarterback. If everybody syncs up, there's going to be somebody open and can he get the ball there?

23:10 And then the next thing, you know, no, the lanes are opening up because now, someone a stay with the guy Paul stood over there, one time he might feel it. Thinking a little jet sweet pass. We'll just sweet pass. That'd be something interesting to see. Let me think about this. All right, let's go and Brawn. We did this last week. We looked at some snap counts, we're going to look at them again. Shout out Evan Watkins over at 24/7 for putting this up but we're gonna start the linebacking corps because I think Brian that is where we are feeling really good. Seeing how many guys got snaps? So Tisdale High field obviously 5246 now it's respectively but we go down a little bit and both.

23:53 Ferguson and Keyshawn artists, both with 25 snaps. That's a lot. That's a big number and I will say, looking at the tape and looking at everything. Keyshawn artist played a really good game those stamps. Do you got in there? Almost had to pick one time. Stuck his nose, in there. Got a couple of tackles just really overall, good game for him showed that really him and Dean Ferguson in there. There wasn't a ton of drop off from the first line to the second line because those guys got in there. When Middle Tennessee still had their starters in the game, so yeah. A good job for both of them and good job. Overall, from the linebacking corps, I feel like everybody had a really good game overall, nothing splashy but I don't really need splashy from from the linebackers, the way this defense is design. I just need them to be where they need to be and make the tackle exactly.

24:47 It's the way the defensive design, do your job. It's going to be fine with them getting that much. I think, now, again, it was Middle Tennessee, State. It was a G5 school, but I think now, maybe in the back of Justin, Hamilton's, my And if I want to give that accent is a full were either 4325 plays. I think what happens is he's not afraid now. I put these out there, I put the right coverage in. They're going to do their jobs. I'm not worried about liabilities. Yeah, because it's showing that they can do it a couple other ones before. Look at wide receiver, Brian Cole Nelson, 12 reps, Oops, snaps Wilfred Panay 14, Jalen Griffin 17. Keeping up with his normal CJ, McRae with 20. I like that.

25:42 We had talked about him possibly getting some extra reps this week and then it came to fruition. And the number says that he's kind of that almost working into that, that that same number with that second line, right? Yeah, I'm he got more than Griffin. Yeah, you know and he definitely got let me see if I can find it here and he got more than he liked our atoms. By the way. Miss stretch Carol 14. They Got some play, but the McRae thing does Stand Out Ron 2020 is a big number when you know you're looking at the top guys bar. No. And Garbutt with 4437 respectively.

26:23 Yep. So they probably overall played a little bit more than we probably wanted them to. Yes. But I like that we were able to get a true 33 deep line, rotating a defensive end. Yeah. That's a good sign. Another good sign is getting some of the freshmen that we need. Probably going to need more in late October and November. Then we need them right now, but getting them reps now is going to pay off once that time comes. So again, the key is going to be keep guys healthy, keep them as fresh as possible and hopefully, get some of the younger guys enough reps, where they can give us meaningful snaps and meaningful games. Absolutely.

27:05 All right, next we want to look at the wide receiver, see how that's starting to shake out. No shot Tavian Robinson Leading The Way with 50 snaps Trey, Turner, 45. Caleb Smith with 44 and then Jaden pay. You got 17 snaps so quite a few for him Lofton with nine, Jalen Jones with sixth. I'm going to start here and I said it's Saturday night and I'll say it again on Wednesday night. If Lofton and Jones are showing that much have to get on them on the field more than essentially one series. Yep. You have it. It's starting to get infuriating. Like, if they're showing if you're talking them up and you're not giving them a playing time, then don't talk them up because clearly you don't have any meaning to get them on the field.

27:58 Yeah and it's disappointing seeing them essentially. I think if I'm not mistaken Lofton, was you Used one series before kind of garbage time you pay you got a little bit more run but I still would have liked to see him get more snaps. And unfortunately from it just a Target standpoint we're still not getting the Targets in the passing game that we need to do a lot of even a lot of our calls are ending up either throws out of bounds or scrambles. We're not getting actually. A whole lot of passes that are actually getting to the point. They need to get to and that's disappointing at this point, you know, we talked about it a little bit on on Saturday night and I'm just going to reiterate it here.

28:46 We've got to get more consistent in our passing game. Got to get better separation at the wide receiver position and Braxton needs to take a little bit more risk with the football than he is right now, I don't want turnovers, I don't want to go back to Ryan Willis, but I need you to To push the ball a little bit more right now because we're not good enough to wait for that wide open man. Sometimes you got to you got to put the ball and take a calculated risk crew and we're going to discuss that a little more and we get into the banquet Alley. We're going to get a little bit more into that with the gamma version of what we're looking for in the Hokies a little later on in the program run.

29:30 So now guys, before we get into Know The Enemy working at Virginia tonight, Battlefield Black Diamond trophy. We are going to take a quick pause for a message from our digital partners. All right, Brian. So we're going to get in here, and we're going to start with the West Virginia Mountaineers offense and knowing the enemy and Brawn. I want to start tonight by looking at West, Virginia's, running backs and the offensive line, and we look at the running backs. We've got to look at Levi Brown 5 11 to 16. He was a three-star coming out of high school, but a three-star with offers from Bama and University of Florida, so he obviously had It caught the eye of some pretty high-end Elite teams when you see offers like that.

30:19 Okay. Was it real? Was it not real? It's reported they at least had enough interest to wear it gained it on 24/7. Now last year hell of a season, 1010 rushing yards about five point one to carry another 202, with 31 receptions, 11 touchdowns last year, you know, as far as the receiving goes kind of on the same pace for it this year. What are you seeing out of Lady Browne? The tape he's above average. Runner really is good. Between the tackles, they run a lot of inside Zone. They run that very well. So he's going to, he's going to do a good job in that, making kind of get into the second level making we got Miss and stretching, you know, 5-yard gain into a 12 or 13, yard gain. But to me, he's a bigger threat in the passing game just because they use him really extensively.

31:17 Both in the screen game, they swing him out, they'll put him in motion and get the ball to him and space. They do a lot of good things with him. I don't see him break a ton of big plays in the passing game, but he is the guy that can kind of move. The sticks for them with kind of you know that little Dash here Dash there eight or ten yards, scoot to the first down. So that's what they really bring to the table but their offensive line is kind of what what keeps that going? They do a good job on the inside Zone. Do a good job with the combos inside getting to the next level. Giving lady Browne, some room to kind of operate and make us miss and space.

31:58 There. We obviously know. That one of our own Doug Nestor is now playing guard for the Mountaineers. Yes he is handsome made some good classes at the offensive line position over the last kind of two or three Cycles. They're adding in Doug, just kind of helps that. So they're they're pretty good unit, they're not as great in passed through, as they are running the ball, they'll allow sex. And that's, you know, Pounded a little bit by their quarterback and how he kind of operates. But overall, it's going to be a little bit of a struggle for us, but I think our defense and wind is up to the task for it has an ester actually looked, I mean do this, it would Doug, Nestor, be absolutely starting somewhere on our line or would it be rotational?

32:54 I mean, he definitely be starting for us this year, okay? But at the same time I don't necessarily see a different dog. Mister it, West Virginia than I saw in 2013 for the Hokies, he's a guy that will go out there and get a good pancake, good pulling, good to get into the next level but has some lapses here and there and sometimes that can you have the have the quarterback on his bag? Sometimes that's just you. Miscommunications line of scrimmage and that blows Running plays. So, still up and down sometimes in terms of consistency. But he, when he, when he plays well, he's he's a handful, I've got it, the offensive line, you know. Statistically, you know, they're putting up some points and everything.

33:41 They have given up, five sacks, and two games. That's against Maryland and that's obviously against Long Island University a FCS upon who two years ago, didn't want to game. And they've given up about nine tackles for loss against both of those teams. So one of those things to keep an eye on them, to drop a stat on you a little bit later, when we wrap up everything Braun that I think is going to shock you a little bit about about that enough. But let's move on Braun and let's take a look at the wide receiver rooms and Brawn. You talked about twins when we were talking a little bit earlier today. And let's talk about these twins, Sam james511 183. Real three-star offers went to what offers from Mississippi State and Georgia Tech.

34:29 Really? Not really a productive year. You know very productive in 2019, not really productive. Last year, only 31 receptions for 300 yards, 9.7 catch two touchdowns, the other guy, Sean Ryan, the bigger body guy 63. 198, 3 star also actually came as a portal transfer over from Temple. Again not great stats in 2020, 25 4269, no touchdowns. So from these two guys I know you wanted to talk about them together. What are you seeing on the tape? When we see these guys lined up near each other, So a lot of what we're seeing is, they'll run, they'll put them. Both on the same side of the formation, they run a lot of knife route Concepts.

35:18 So they're running one of them either on a slant or some sort of inside play, Within the other ones running a corner. They're trying to get you the outside guy on the inside guy to get rubbed. So they can get kind of a free release, they've had a lot of success against Maryland doing that especially in the first half. Barely kind of adjusted to it in the second half when a lot more Zone Concepts in that took away a little bit of that, they were still able to get some completions but they weren't able to kind of bust them for big plays over to middleware, big plays down the sideline. But Sam James is a little bit more of the athlete but Shawn Ryan is is the guy that he doesn't get a ton of ton of caches but when he does, they usually go for pretty big yardage.

36:05 He said to plays over 30 yards in two games so far. Not a ton of catches but he's doing something with it. Every time he gets his hand on the ball, James is definitely more of the kind of the steady, Eddie the consistent guy, but he is a big play threat as well because of his speed. So, both of those are guys to watch the other person, I will mention in this wide. Receiver core is Winston right jr. And I know you've seen the highlights. A lot of those are going to be, he's going to do some good things in the passing game for them. But but primarily he is a weapon in the Special Teams. Absolutely punt returner and kick returner had two big kick returns against.

36:49 Maryland did muff a punt though so that that resulted in a turnover. So that's something to watch as well but if he gets his hands on the ball, he can be a threat. So we got to make sure that we're doing well in our coverage on both kick return or kickoff and on a punt. Yeah. Hello, needs to get it to the back of the end zone Brown because it's not a, this isn't a one trick pony with Winston. Right the 59 180 three-star, his career, he's returned 33 kickoffs for 925 yards. He's almost averaging 30 yards every time he takes one out of the end zone, which is that's a, that's an obscene number, in my opinion, in today's age, he's ran to back to the house.

37:35 We obviously saw one already this year, one, that was Close. We haven't seen him as much in the, we hadn't didn't see him a lot in the Maryland game but last year I mean he can he can definitely hold his own as far as you know, being a receiver being a threat, forty seven receptions last year for 553 yards, One Touch. So I'm kind of seeing maybe with that may be little more gadgety with his size and his speed and you know, but Romeo's got to send it. Let that mean. Touch the ball any, as far as our punter goes, Peter more Peter more, keep doing what you're doing, because if you have not been booming on letting the covers team get there, you have been putting good angles on them, I think, Peter more. This is going to put more in the Hokies talk as a freshman. He is a true five star punter because he's coming in and do it exactly what you expect.

38:34 Somebody that's done the job for three years. Like, Bradburn it done. Yeah. Yeah. He's done a good job. Job so far. I mean, the only thing you got to worry about with the punished, you know, make sure that there's enough air time if you do. Boom it so you're not out kicking the coverage there. Exactly. All right, let's turn it. Let's look at the quarterback. Jared Dodge was a 3-star transferred from Delhi. Diggy Dives 2010 D-Day geeky guy from Bowl. Green back in 2018. Had a really good season with Bowling Green, 27 touchdowns 14 interceptions in last year solid season with West Virginia, you know, 63% 63 percent completion percentage 2,500 plus yards, 14 touchdowns for interceptions, obviously his brother played Seth played down at Texas Tech. So Brian, what are you seeing from sip? Not Seth.

39:39 With Jared wrong Duty. What are you seeing from him? On tape, he's not a great athlete, but he is good. Enough to scrambling. Get a first down here there. So we're not preparing for any sort of mobile quarterback, but he does have a little bit of at, which he does have a good feel of went to take off and get the first down. If he needs to, he does really well with the clean pocket, delivers an accurate Ball. But when the Gets a little bit muddled, that's when he struggles. He's thrown a couple pics that I've seen early in this year already. When, when the pocket gets crowded there he gets contacted. So it's going to be interesting to see what we do. We really need to get pressure on him, the sum of their, some of their skiing.

40:30 With that power power rate is, is what is kind of call. They're combining the power run with the air raid. He does a good job running that and they mix in some RPO elements a lot of inside Zone and counter. And then, you know, they throw the ball off, play action with it. And I think the play action is where we play action. In. Our PO is where we could potentially get burned. I think if we just line up, we're going to hold the whole, The Zone and check. And I think we'll hold just the the five-step drop in check, but we need to make sure that we're not out of position. When you can, we get some runs. Action or that are po going. I hear that something else I'll make a point on Brian because you pulled up a couple clips and showed me a couple days ago in not necessarily a clean pocket but he doesn't really have his pocket Mobility is bad.

41:26 Like I remember there was one playing you we showed him like Brian why doesn't he just like all he had to do was kind of a couple steps left. We could have reset his feet and fired instead like the guys coming. It's like oh God throat. And he did that numerous times. So I think for us it's it's not only keeping the pocket clean but just making the noise of being there because he clearly does not have the capability to just didn't see him step up, you didn't see him slide left or slide right as much as we want to knock Braxton, we've seen him slide left slide right, we slim slide up in the pocket and then take off and run.

42:09 Jared doesn't do that in. You know, the one thing that I've been looking at Braun is this, alright. So we're not even going to look at Liu right? The laura-leigh ER it's given up 14 either Sachs or tackles for loss plays in the backfield. Yep. Maryland in two games, has a combined 15. What are those games against Howard? And they blew the doors off of them. You care to guess how many Virginia Tech has between sacks and tackles for loss in two games. 22:27.

42:49 Okay. Non-sex 18 tackles for loss? So, when I'm starting to look at this, in just like its comparative. Analysis is saying, well, the one team that they play with division, one Talent only has 15 for the year, they're not doing a whole lot. You're about to bring essentially a much better defensive line who is getting into the back. Field and bringing people down. Not even counting quarterback hits or pressures. So, when I'm thinking about Jared and his a kind of has a Mobility unless he absolutely has to, or his bad pocket, awareness.

43:31 I have a feeling that that lines going to get ate all day. Or ate a lot of the day order. He's going to be taking some absolute hits as he's letting go of the ball. Yeah, I think that's the thing. We definitely have to do. We've got to be able to get pressure with for like we did against you and see you know, they're going to run that RPO a little bit. So we I think we can bring a similar type type game plan to the table to try to slow these guys down. The question is going to be? Can we consistently get home with the with the defense with the defense of wine? Especially just bringing for, I'd like us to be less familiar. Nila this week obviously compared to what we did last week, making better be make some more stunts. Some of the The Zone Blitz, some of the delay Blitz but I don't think we need to Blitz a lot.

44:27 I want to completely get pressure with for and make sure that we're we got the coverage going in the back. And we keep the run and check because we can keep the run in check. Then again like we did against UNC, we make that offense one-dimensional, it's a whole lot easier to stop. Abso-freakin'-lutely. All right, now that we closed down the offense and give you some names and things to look for it. Let's flip it over to the defense bar on the wonderful 335 stack, and let's start taking a look. I want to give the guys name and the position, but I want you to explain what it is before you get into too deep so actually.

45:11 So let's do this first. The Darius Calhoun 64 245, he plays the Bandit position. He's a star transfer from Alabama, the sky was a top hundred pledges few years ago in the country. He only had about eight games prior to this season between Alabama and West. Virginia 14, tackles five-and-a-half tackles for loss, three sacks, one, fourth Rumble. So not a lot of production and just a few games there. But before you get into what you're seeing, On him. What exactly does that Bandit position do for West Virginia? So let's start with with the actual defense and I can kind of break down with the band it does.

45:54 So the defense is really a multiple front 34 base so they run, they'll run the 34 alignment. They'll have a 33 stack alignment. They'll have a 42 alignment so you're going to see various fronts but their base is kind of a Hybrid 34. And what Bend areas kaolians position is, is the Bandit, which is a hybrid, 34 edge, meaning that, you know, if they're, if they're front is the 42, he's either a stand-up or hand in the dirt defensive end. If it is the 34 base, he's more of a traditional Edge rusher outside linebacker.

46:40 He will be kind of the backer. If We're translating it to hokey speak here, he'd be the backer in the 42 alignment. So there's a lot of things that he can do. In this in this alignment, but he's really the hybrid player up front. That enables them to kind of have that multiple front and not really skip a beat All right. What have you seen from him on tape? I mean is he is he disruptive as he better in coverage as you better play more the true backer and position the for to these versatile buddies that he's much better when he's attacking forward then he is in coverage. Okay so even if he is at that linebacker in the three threes at the linebacker, if he's in the for to weave on the edge, He likes to attack at the line of scrimmage and get tackles for loss.

47:37 That's that's his bread and butter, but he does pretty good, especially when he's, he has to do limited things in coverage, like, cover the flat, he does that very well. He's got enough athleticism to stick with a tight end in that space and stick with a running back in that space gets a little, not, not 100% great when it's not Zone. When it's, when he's locked up deeper down the The field in a man situation but he doesn't have to do that a ton with the way they kind of scheme for him. Got it. Alright. Now let's take a look at Scotty young who plays the spear position 510 207 pounds 3 star.

48:17 He was an Arizona Wildcat transfer so West Coast to East Coast. Very good 2019 because he had to sit out 2020 with the trains for twenty nineteen, sixty six, tackles two and a half tackles for loss and then Shin I guess it's Wayne spear first and then what you think from Scotty on tape spear the best way to think of it is very similar to the Whip and what the whip used to be. You're talking about a hybrid safety linebacker that likes to play in the box. So it depending on what what front they're going is going to vary whether he's playing more of a nickel type role of safety type role or a true in the Box.

49:01 Linebacker type role. But those two positions, the Bandit in the spear combined is kind of what what allows them to to go. Those multiple fronts because they can kind of switch the alignments up and really not miss a beat. So you got to have versatile players at those two positions and Scotty young is a versatile player. Definitely a guy that likes to hit makes good plays in the running game, probably a little stronger in the running game than he is in coverage. Similar to cow and But he's not a liability in coverage, but he will get beat on occasion, but definitely in the Run game, he's kind of the spill guy. He's the guy that, you know, when they wash it outside, he comes in and cleans it up.

49:46 Alright, tape. You know, you know, is the tape. Average, above average. Would you want to be above average player? Okay. Yeah he's definitely above average player. More Mega said he will. He will he will occasionally get beaten coverage but not anymore than, you know. Shamari Connor does but he's kind of not quite the hitter that Shamari is but definitely is good in terms of tackling and coming up and making the play, like he is. Alright? So we've kind of looked at a defensive lineman, / linebacker, we kind of looked at a T. / linebacker. Let's look at the two safeties because me, and you took some time and looked on tape with these two guys. And if there's anywhere, I think we can attack its with these two Gentlemen.

50:35 Let's start with the free safety, Sean my home. 511 200 pounds 3 star had offers from UK and Cincinnati, when he came out his 2020. Season 53, tackles two tackles for loss in an interception. But Brown, we looked at the tape, it was Either good and solid or yeah, yeah, very feast or famine. He had a couple good plays where he was, right? Where you need to be in coverage. Wouldn't made the play? And then there was there was one play where he was in a cover to Lost leverage just had a had a big clean run for a touchdown for one of the Maryland receivers on a corner route that probably should have been only been a 25-yard gain.

51:22 Not a 50-yard touchdown. Yeah. So It's really very much. Both of these safeties are kind of feast or famine. They make solid plays, they come up, make big plays, good fits in the running game and then you know they'll have a handful of plays a game where you're just scratching your head like how did you let that happen? Yeah, you know with with the way we're going to talk about the other Alonso die in just a second but with the play that you show with Mahone and a couple other plays, it's he's essentially It's not significantly out of position, but if a, the right play is called and he's where he is on some of those, it's a massive game, it was a it was a situational thing. It was very much a, he misread the situation, didn't get enough depth wasn't where he needed to be in relationship to the hash and that gave too much of a, of a window to throw the ball towards the sideline.

52:21 Yeah. All right, let's talk about Alonzo with that 510. In 1986 2020. Really good season. 66 tackles two interceptions in a forced. Fumble. I don't I feel like you looked at his place more than me. I remember the Mahone plays? What do we see out of a die in the good and the bad? So the good is that he is a very willing tackle tackle, he will get up in there in the box and make plays in the running game. The problem I saw was some inconsistency with his run fits a couple times kind of getting kind of approaching the box but then kind of getting caught in the wash and not getting to the fit to make the play. Was he was that that running play. We looked at where he essentially followed the linebacker versus going to the correct Gap, that's correct. Yeah.

53:14 There was a, there was a couple other plays that were similar to that but that that one definitely stood out. Well, when we looked, if he was a little bit more patient with we're especially considering where the gaps were opening in the blocking scheme, if he was a little bit more patient, he would have been able to make the play there and make the tackle, even if it was only for, you know, five to eight yard gain, turned out to be about a 25 or 30 yard gain on that running play. If I'm not mistaken. All right. Just, you know, the difference between doing the fundamental things, right? Yeah, and when you we saw that play, Brian, I had the flashbacks to you and see because it looked like how do we looked against you and see in 2020 where guys were just in the wrong spots? Massive gaps opening and again you kind of pointed out it's like he's got a hesitate and I think it goes back to what you said he's willing to look for contact and sometimes with guys like that you see it.

54:11 They're looking for the contact versus the hesitation and fine. Adding where to go and that case it look like he trusted his instincts and not his eyes and his eyes told him something completely different than his instincts told him and sometimes instincts are big, but some guys play with instincts and that's good. If they're if their instincts are consistent but sometimes when they're not you're going to have yourself out of position on these plays and that can that can create some big gains if things aren't flush across the front six or seven there, Very true. Alright, so that's going to close no. The enemy on the defensive side of the ball, as we did last week, we have a hokey version. This is the Hokey gamma version we've seen Alpha. We've seen beta.

54:57 We are at Gamma and Brian. We're going to start with the offense. Watching the Maryland tape. Yep. A it made you happy because I think you know, these are in our Arsenal, what do we need to run the damn screens run? The damn screens multiple, we should be able to scream and short pass, this team all day. I know we're talking about we want to get more things involved in the in the passing game. The best way to get things involved in the passing game is give Braxton some easy reads early in the game just like you did against you NC and get his ass comfortable. Yep.

55:40 And get them two guys who can make things happen. Blackshear trait, a don't be afraid to give Caleb Smith a chance, don't be afraid to give potentially Keshawn King, one of the screens that were set up in the Maryland game. I mean, it the way their defense, their defense looks so unprepared for it. Yeah, they ran a tunnel that went for big yards. They ran a tight end throwback that went for big yards. They ran a running back. Bringing that went for pretty good. Yardage couple flares that went the win for pretty decent yardage so we'll be able to do some short passing game. Things against this defense, we need to be consistent with it and we need to Pepper it in early to get Braxton comfortable with the game plan. Absolutely.

56:26 Now, the second part of this puzzle is something. We saw one time versus Middle, Tennessee, State. It was the jet Suite game. City with Brian Tuesday after afternoon and Tuesday afternoon. Yeah, and he's showing me some of the plays and, The Motions completely screwed. They're essentially, their second level up. We saw it, we already talked about a die making mistakes. When you give them the window dressing and removing players, they are going to the wrong gaps. If for nothing else, even if we only hand the ball off, three times on a Jet Sweep, giving that motion is going to give space. To our running game on the inside, right? Ron.

57:16 Yeah, yeah. We talked about the Jet Sweep All the Time. Loved it or hated we've seen. We've seen that. It's an efficient play. I know that James Mitchell got hurt on the Jet Sweep, so we're not going to talk about that, but we need to talk about is that consistently. We've done good things with the jet Suite, it helps open up Avenues and alleys to run in our offense, it does a good job of kind of Getting outside of the box with the ball quickly. As long as we can get that Ali block properly. It's a pretty good play. We've had a lot of success in the Red Zone. I think this these linebackers and the the spear in particular can be influenced by the window dressing that we like to use.

58:02 So I'm hoping that we take advantage of that with the Jet Sweep and some other motion that we run. But Brian, what what has to happen with our quarterback? He's gonna have to pull the damn trigger on some mid-level passes, you know, I don't know if we necessarily need to take the ball, deep down the field, a lot against this team and especially without James Mitchell, I don't see us attacking deep down the middle of the field against this team consistently. But I what I would like to see is us working. The mid-level passing game inside the numbers, and inside the hash, Is to keep them honest. So we can still have that short passing game to get outside the hashes in the numbers, to take advantage of their weakness. Yep.

58:49 In, we've always known how risk adverse they want our quarterbacks to be. And, and luckily, for what they said, he talked about, you know, we value protecting the ball, but sometimes you've got to throw the ball. I enjoyed hearing him say that because we think it as fans. Yeah. It's cool to protect the ball but sometimes you got to throw it and when your head coach is saying that it's almost like a trigger, right? I should be a trigger for Braxton Burmeister protected, don't throw anything stupid by all means. Yeah, as you said a little earlier Braun, you can't wait for it to come completely open. You have to anticipate that when Trey runs a 10-yard in, he's going to get the ten yard in.

59:31 He's going to be this guy. Put it where he can run with it. That's your job. Yeah, I would much rather brag. Burmeister take a calculated risk with the ball. While the pocket is still clean. Then go on the run and try to get rid of it as someone's bearing down on him in a scramble drill, right? Yeah, I would much rather a clean pocket where you can step into the throw and it's a calculated risk, where more than likely, it's either a catcher. An incompletion right, true? And we, and we've had a relatively clean pocket. We've only given up two sacks and two games. Yeah. And there's because if some of that is Braxton being Elusive and getting out, but some mean some of it is just we hold the pocket for long enough for him to at least get rid of the ball or get the ball down, feel right?

1:00:20 And and it's not going. Alright. Brandade we've got actually get the ball down field to the receiver on time, within the framework of the play call. Yep. We can't just be top top, top of the drop, it's not there. Alright, so now I'm going Scramble a little bit roll outside, and try to get rid of it. Downfield to Caleb Smith, trying to get open or James Mitchell, trying to get up. Like it's, we can get some big plays that way at some point, but we've got to be consistent with the passing game because they're just they're just looking for for those things that we're being inconsistent with because they're taking it away in the first couple seconds and then bracks is just going away from it. Yep, very true.

1:01:08 All right. One One last piece. We're looking for this week. Is someone Whether it be Trey Turner, Savion Robinson, Raheem Blackshear, somebody has to get in all 100 yards, all purposed, yep. Against this defense. And what we have seen on the tape and how they reacted against Maryland, I'd like one. I think there's a potential for to, if we execute our game plan, at the highest level and I, and we have the guys who can do it. It's just Get them the ball. Yeah, I think I think probably Blackshear and Taylor Robinson are probably the most likely candidates for this, although the the wild-card being tray with with any sort of Jet Sweep, that he takes her big yardage that he can actually do. Yep.

1:02:02 I'd like to see one of those three go over 100. Hopefully, two of them. Two of them would mean big, big things. All right, Ron, let's look at the defense real quick and let's talk about that. Secondary you already talked about the way they like to run the pick plays. What what do we have to do this week against them greed? React. Make sure that we're passing off our our men properly. So we don't have any big gaps for them to throw a big windows. I should say for them to throw the ball into We probably won't go man a lot especially when they send those two wide receivers to the same side just because of the way they like to run those knife routes to that side.

1:02:52 But again the sound keep everything in front of you, make the tackle All right, and something. We've alluded to earlier already another big piece of the gamma version for the defense is going to be get Gyarados off the spot. We've already talked about how he's not a runner. And we've also discussed looking at the tape that he's not gray good at moving around in the pocket. So if you move him and get him without setting his feet, It's the, it's what you do in college. You make some bad decisions. Yeah. And we're gonna have to do a better job than we did against Bailey Hockman. Last week of doing that.

1:03:34 I think we can definitely pull that off. We saw that Middle Tennessee was running a lot of a lot of help to kind of keep some of that in check there. I don't think that West Virginia will keep his many in to kind of keep that protection. There, we need to get consistent pressure with. For though to kind of keep everything in check and if we can do that and we can get Diggy throwing either before he's ready or making an ill-advised throw in traffic. That's going to bode well for us. It absolutely is Prime. And again when you see when we saw a couple of his pics they were ugly picks. It wasn't like it was a beautiful Beautiful thing cam cop in this up tonight, Thinkin similar to US versus UNC. We cannot let them score early right now. The way the offense is playing, I absolutely 100% agree with that.

1:04:32 If we get down, we have not seen our offense hitting a year where he can pop off 14 or 21 points in the in the course of one quarter. Brian let's go to the last piece here. And I want you to say it for the people in the back. Brian. You have said, we have to be Gap sound. So what do you want to sound Gap? Sound. We also need good safety run. Fits. Always good safety run fits and we've seen it pretty consistently the first two games, right? We can play has been really good, especially in the Run game and the short pass game. We need more of that because they will test us.

1:05:15 Yep. And the good news about that even more. So looks like he on to Jenkins, probably going to be a full go on, if not a daily, did a very good job in his absence last week. Yeah. So, you know, Know what we got to do that, we've got to make sure they can't run the ball because if they can't run the ball, it bodes better for us. All right, Braun. We've got some thoughts from the tear down. Some listener predictions. We got a couple out here tonight. So before we give our predictions, let's hear theirs.

1:05:56 34:24, Virginia Tech. We need to Arch. JJ, Singleton scores going to be 31:17 Hokies, and we're going to have to passing touchdowns YouTube. All right. Jay Jay's, got his throwing for to passing touchdowns, that's going to be. That sounds like that'll be a pretty good game for for Braxton there. If you can pull that off, get to passing touchdowns hopefully get over 250 yards through the air, that would be nice to see and tally, always wants the orange. So Fact that all the orange bring all the arms, all the orange also predicting a win. They already say 3817.

1:06:41 Yeah. Big blowout, big blowout. I Braun. Well it's our turn now man. You want me to do the honors? Yeah, good. All right. I think that we're going to go into Morgantown with a little bit of fire under our ass. We're going to come out. We're going to score first. We're going to lean on our defense. We're going to be opportunistic with putting points on the board. We're going to be balanced, despite not really putting the ball down the field very much. We're going to work them in the short passing game working with the screen game. I think it's a good game on both sides of the ball, even if it's not standing out on the offense, I think we end up 2724, Virginia Tech, and Brian goes to 7:24 V T and now it's my turn just a few weeks ago.

1:07:40 I predicted this game as a loss in our season preview predicted Carolina is a win. And as of right now, I'm not coming off of it, we have not shown them passing game to go into a hostile environment. And beat a team that does have some weapons that can score some touchdowns. They lost a Maryland by six points. They turn the ball over over 4 plus X. I don't think they're going to turn it over 4 plus X against us. I think they're going to be a little more conservative with it. I think us going there with some holes in our offense. And they loud crowd that it's been 15 years.

1:08:23 Since we played there, it is a nasty place to play. We Know It is Brian friends with their things happen. They'll throw liquor at you. They'll burn couches all sorts of crap so I think her liquor bottles that don't have liquor in them. Sometimes they have urine and I'm shout out. Dwight Vic. Yep, battery he's full beer cans but I think it's going to be a closely contested game and I'm going to go unfortunately I'm going to say 2827 West Virginia. oh, You know, that's a tough one. It's gonna be a heartbreaker. So you predicted us having having one last possession, and just can't get it. In field goal range.

1:09:06 Is that kind of what you're, what you're seeing or or is it or is it a late? A late touchdown to make it make it close. I don't think it'll be, I think it's going to be one of those. We get the ball later in the game. We can't convert anything, they get the ball and eventually the Deep. It's going to be the old hokey. He's from our youth, we're going to do, we're going to have opportunities to do big things on offense. We're going to screw it up. We're going to wear out our defense and eventually in the fourth quarter, they're going to get the lead and we're not going to call back. Now, if you ask me what, I put my mortgage payment on this know because I do think we have the talent and if you want to know how how we do it is, we it's going to be similar to UNC is Cam said we jump early. if you tell me, we are up 14 after the first 20 minutes, Then I think we're going to win the game. Yeah, but I don't foresee us getting into some sort of shootout with this team?

1:10:09 No, I if it's a shootout, I don't we to me, we have no chance, but if we get up early and can do exactly what we did against UNC and start leaning slowing down their run and forced into g into bad throws. Then we have a chance But this is also going to be a hostile environment. They're going to be screaming their freaking lungs out at us the second we touch the field so you're not going to have that sense of calm to get down the field. You know. Listen I'm hoping I'm sitting here and about how many hours is it? 72 hours braund. Listen.

1:10:50 You've got to be a realist. I'm a realist. If you if you if you think we're going to win every single game. Go to Vegas, put it put put all of your savings that we're going to go 12 and oh yeah well he predicted 9 & 3. Yeah. We as we definitely bring the realness here, we're not we're not going to sugarcoat it right. Run first game with you said we're gonna lose to UNC, he does help your inhale to come on here Friday night when I love being wrong. When I when I pick a girl's boobs, that's my favorite time. I love being wrong too and I hope I'm wrong on this one. I really hope. That by about 130. I can sit back and just put my feet up because we blow the doors off on the slight.

1:11:33 Well, this ain't a game anymore. I'm really glad I'm wrong. So I'm hoping about 72 hours from now. I get to sit here and say I was wrong and it's the happiest I am when I'm wrong. All right, Brian. There are a lot of other games this weekend and our Saturday. Pickens and Brian, believe it or not. We and you bald last weekend, Brian, six and four got his record to 511 and 11. I went seven and three and went from three and nine to ten and twelve and one Fell Swoop weekend. So and I think the games we put together, the only game we lost was was we got Ohio State.

1:12:16 We got the Iowa game, right? We picked four games. Exactly the same. We were three in one. Yeah. So when we agree, you might want to take some of that to the bank. If we agree to take it, take it to Vegas. If you, you know, if you want to go follow my pics, you might, as well just flip a coin at this point. I'm 500 on the nose through two weeks. So we'll see how that builds over the rest of the year, but Going to get into this first one, buddy. Let's go to it, man. Since you are leading, you have the honor sir. We look at Friday night, Louisville vs. UCF, UCF Lane seven points.

1:12:58 Yeah, I'm still not a believer in this Louisville team. I feel like the pieces that they've lost just have not been been replaced at this point. I think UCF is kind of their good team and I think they can, they can probably get them that I think that's going to be Be UCF, probably by 10. So I'll take UCF in this one. Yeah, I'm actually with you on this one. After the Way, Louisville looked against Ole Miss and then last week, you know, they played Eastern Kentucky. You know, the kernels out there, they only 1:30 to 3. And it was a similar game to what Virginia Tech look like. They were only up 2:40 at halftime, so not a like not a overly dominant impressive.

1:13:45 I've gained against an even lower level of competition in the Hokies, so I'm with you give me UCF lay the seven, I think it might be uglier than the 10-year talking about Brian. I think Scott Satterfield officially gets on the hot seat in just a few days. Put it in one of the sea, put him on the scene, almost. All right, let's go down. Miami. Michigan State. Miami Lane, six and a half. I'll start with this one. Brian. I think Miami gets back on track this week, okay? Thank you know, with what Michigan State likes to do. Michigan State, out of the gate. Very good against Northwestern Northwestern ever.

1:14:26 You don't know what they are until about week six. Yep. Because sometimes, they'll come, you know, will couple years ago they lost to Duke and they ended up winning nine games and it was just like houses the same team. So I'm going to take Miami in this game, I don't think six and a half is enough for In state I see this as a 10-point game. Probably 3121. Miami pulling away late. Yeah, I'm actually right there with you buddy. I think this is this is the perfect game for Miami to get, right? Because it's good of enough competition that they are going to get the focus going into it. But at the same time, talent-wise top to bottom, they have more talent and I think he finally play up to that level of talent this week and It done against Michigan State.

1:15:17 All right, Brown roll up into the next one. Here Temple, BC, BC, land 16. Temple. And it is solely because the quarterback and it's solely because Temple seems to play up to better competition when they get some of these matchups of late in the last few years. So I'm going to pick Temple here. Um I would say that but not in this case temples got their doors blown off by Rutgers just a couple weeks ago and last week they played Akron and that game was tied at halftime.

1:16:00 They pulled Away late. So I'm gonna even with a different quarterback. I think BC is going to blow the doors off Temple, not enough tape yet to understand what they're doing. So give me BC lay the 16 on that. Temple is my upset Alert in the ACC this week, true upset? Yeah, yeah, I'm feeling good about that. All right, Brian, this is, I don't know how we're going to pick this game and I've got to leave it really Florida. State vs Wake Forest, weak forces, Lane five and a half. Part of my brain looks at Notre Dame game versus Florida State in thinking, even though it's not as a good of Notre Dame team as it's been the last few years, there's still a good team. If that team shows up, they're going to be tweaked by 14 points.

1:16:51 The other part of my brain turns on this is what it says. Did you see the Jacksonville State game? Hey, Curtis. Did you see the Jacksonville State and especially they didn't fire him. But any defensive coordinator who chooses to run like a cover one, the last play of the game. When the opponents near Midfield, I don't know what you're worth your weight in. She's not even near Midfield who really like the 32, or some shit. Know there were 44 years. They were at the place where you don't still play a cover one. I don't give a shit if they were at the 20 seriously. You're not going to put at least three to four guys.

1:17:32 Back at the 10-yard. Deadline. Well, you put all your deep guys deep, but then you drop, everybody else kind of at that level where they can make the play, if he gets past past the past fifty, right? They can make the play before they get the field goal range. I mean, it was six seconds. That's going to be a quick ass route to get 25 yards and six seconds, right? True, it couldn't have happened. If you put four to five, guys, back at the 10-yard line. They win the game. I'm going to go here. I think Florida State's going to win this game. I think Florida state is going to win this game, so give me the points.

1:18:18 Give me the points in Florida State. Yeah, I'm going to take Week. Jacksonville State broke me. I'm not picking the Seminoles until they prove me wrong in the other direction. Alright, alright. Brown will Tennessee state? I'm not, I don't think about that. I don't know about that one. All right, Brian, Georgia Tech, Clemson. It would be closer than if they showed up the way they showed up last weekend. Be closer than the experts would say. It wouldn't be close to the expert. They wouldn't cover the 20 and a half. I'll say that right now.

1:18:59 He'll know why Braun Georgia Tech Clemson you ready for the line? Yeah, it is Elaine 28 and a half point. Yeah, that's telling me that Jeff Sims is not playing this game and I will trust it. Give me Clemson, Clemson legal limit, I think. Well, remember the game last year 73. 7.0 got to beat up on a lesser opponent. Last week, they are going to beat the shit out of Georgia Tech. I mean, I think I'm seeing this game. Something like 5614. Okay.

1:19:40 Like bye. I beat the dog mean. Georgia Tech. That's about. That's about where I see you, too. I think thinking they could definitely take you to, you know, 55 scores, 35, right point with the next one. We got here. Brian is we've got Duke and we've got Northwestern. This is in Durham, do you ghislaine Or Duke is getting three points on North Northwestern Lane points. And this is just such a weird game because we saw Northwestern they lost to Michigan State. You know, Michigan state county. Kept him at arm's length. They get Indiana State the next week you expect, okay.

1:20:22 They're going to blow the doors off 24-6. It wasn't ugly. Do you go on the other hand went down the Charlotte and an uprising. Charlotte team basically had that game. One lost in the And barely, we saw the way they start against North Carolina A&T, and it looks like they're gonna lose another one, and then they come back in the second quarter Beyond and just blow the doors, off, A&T know, these two teams. I have no clue what they are. They had I have no clue and when I have no clue I start going to, you know, history the last few years have been rough for Duke, the last few years Northwestern had a good year. And then they had a bad year than last year. They had a really good year.

1:21:06 I think Northwestern wins this game by touchdown. So I will lay the three points with Northwestern. Give me Duke in the points and I don't like it at all but I just I don't know what to expect from these two teams and I will go, you know, ACC this way I'll say hey, we need to finally get one need to kind of time. We have had a ton of luck in the non-conference against Power 5 opponents, this year so far. So let's try to go out there and get one, very true, just had an update a line. And UVA UNC. Was it nine a few hours ago. It is now at eight so UNC Lane eight points. What do you got in the UVA UNC game in Chapel Hill? This is make or break for you and sees hopes of winning the coastal, right?

1:22:03 It is you can't, you can't fall behind UVA and Virginia Tech. Bye-bye, half-game, a heads up game in the, in the coastal. This early, you can't have two conference losses in your schedule. This early, I think UNC is focused. I think they come out quick, and I think it's a tight game. But I think I think UNC covers. I think it's a 10-point 10 point game. I think I think UVA is just they haven't been tested yet and I think that unc's focus is going to be where it needs to be right. I'm sure like me, you're around Saturday morning, hanging around the house, having a cup of coffee, maybe eating some Pop-Tarts for breakfast and that game was played against Illinois.

1:22:54 Yep. The way Brandon Armstrong was throwing those outside passes. If they were Ducks, they were Ducks. I hope he is still throwing those in Scott Stadium. Come Thanksgiving weekend. If he, if they do that game plan and they try to attack the outsides, I think he's throwing it at least two, maybe three interceptions? Yeah. We just haven't like you just said it. We haven't seen UVA play any quality competition. We saw right now, we saw UNC, you know, big win last week, and we saw him against us against what we're seeing right now.

1:23:35 Is a very good Virginia Tech defense. Only boat Corrales is out. So they're starting to get healthier. And I'm sort of teetering between, is this going to be a 10-point game? We're just going to look a little uglier on paper. I think, either way I think, um, c-can cover eight points in this game and it's one of those games. It's a it's like a win-win lose-lose. You wish they both could lose mean. Would that be nice? That'd be nice. But either way, we're going to hell. If they all get enough covid then it'll happen because the ACC says, if you have to cancel because of covid-19, We're gonna go down the LabCorp tomorrow and get my everybody has code.

1:24:19 They both have to lose now. I think we all say it's the win win is if if you and see when they're effectively out of the coastal picture, if you know, if UVA loses you know, and in the manner I think it's going to happen. I think effectively they get put to bed is okay. Those first two games were just smoking mirrors. So that's the field on that run. All right, really, haven't been tested by good offense yet. Now think that's the thing is that the defense hasn't been stressed tested. Yet the defense has entrusted to put the pressure on the offense to actually have to do something exactly what not playing loose.

1:25:04 All right. Brian going here to my pretty big ranked games at the end here. We're going to start with auburn Penn State. In Happy Valley, it is going to be a white out on Saturday night Penn, State's Lane Six, Penn State already battled tested, with the Wisconsin game. Where to me? They still should have lost I do think Auburn's got a good defense, but I think Auburn's going to get a shell shock Auburn. Has literally played no one this year. No one. And unfortunately for them they have to go on the road to a super hostile environment and it's to a place, they normally don't go. And this is where my peace comes. Why I don't like neutral site games because when you have to go to a Out of conference team.

1:25:57 You don't normally play. Everything's different right Ron? Yep. Oh well, they play in Alabama. It's 100,000 people. There, they allow those kids go to Alabama with multiple times in their careers. They know where they're going to stay. They know the meals, they're going to eat. They know what the locker rooms look like to know how the fields, feel they know where the noise comes from. They know the fans are their fans are, they are going into a stadium. They've never been in there going further up north Me a check on what State College weather going to be on Saturday night. Temperature-wise, just just interested. What time is it?

1:26:43 7:30, it's not getting. It's going to be. About 75 and grizzly. All right, so they're not getting any sort of Chilly fall weather early. But either way, we look at it, I think Penn State wins this game because I think do you really want to get tested an environment like that for the first time this year? That's definitely not the environment. You want to go into with your first big test. It's going to definitely be loud. Whiteout is always loud about as loud as Penn State gets in the season. I'm with you on this one.

1:27:29 I've got Penn State. I don't think it's by a ton over the spread their, I think it's, I think it's another probably about it by the 10-point game. I think kind of in the end. Penn State holds on, I think, Auburn out of the gate is Shell Shocked by the atmosphere and the town of Penn State. But they kind of their defense settles in, and they kind of make a little bit of a run late, but it's too late. Absolutely. All right, Braun, where we're going next going to be the Pac-12 after dark game, but not all Pac-12, future, big 12-member. BYU versus Arizona State. Arizona State lay in three and a half. We watch some BYU last week and we hit a little bit of the Arizona, State game.

1:28:16 Rhyme. So, what are you thinking for this one? I think this is going to be kind of a letdown game for BYU. I think they're still going to kind of be riding the high of last week. And I think zone is just going to kind of wear them down over time in that game. So give me his own estate in the points. All right, bronze. Going to take Zone. Estate. I'm going to go with the not so fast here. I think coming off that Victory versus Utah course and they won that game in nine years. I think the Elation I think they're going to stay in the their heads are going to be in the cloud. Do they win?

1:28:58 I wouldn't pick this one on the money line. I think they're pretty evenly matched teams. You've got a really good quarterback in Jane Daniels at Arizona State but I think this one is going to come down to the wire. So, what I think of a game being like that, I've got to take the points just to, you know, hope the home field. I think, gives Arizona that a little bit in the end and it's like a 3130 game is almost a twins BYU. Evers. Okay. All right bro, that's one buddy. Last one, the big one. No in the small re 38b or in CBS on Saturday, I'm going to go make sure this line has not changed because it is a big line already.

1:29:46 Make sure we can get points one way or the other, but Alabama, it did go down in the last little while here Alabama, is a 14 and a half Point favorite over. Florida in the swamp. The 3:30 afternoon. Well you let the last one shit. It's such a tough thing because we know Alabama's talented. And we know Nick Saban is absolutely wonderful at creating game plans with the month. So I don't know if what we saw against Miami is the true Alabama because savings so good. When you give him a month he's gonna dissect you in every single way.

1:30:32 If you give him time, he will eat you alive. You will. It's why the playoffs, you know. He's destroyed teams on that first weekend but 14 and a half is so So many points to lay against a home team against the raucous crowd against an athletic quarterback. Do I think Florida wins? I don't think Florida wins but I think it's going to be a more competitive game than two touchdowns, so I will take Florida. and, Take the points. Okay, I'm right there with you buddy while we agree right there with you. Yeah, I like Bama to win this but I don't like it. 14 and a half points.

1:31:22 I think they're going into the swamp. It's going to be a rocking atmosphere. I think that's going to be. I don't think that's going to intimidate Alabama, but I think Florida is going to be kind of feed off that energy and really play. Above their ability against Alabama, at least for three quarters. Yeah, I can see that being a close game until till the fourth quarter, but I don't think they put three scores distance between the think it's going to be either somewhere between 1010 to the, the two touches. Yeah. I'm so probably probably just a just enough to for Florida. Hang onto the cover there. Yeah, over unders, 59 and a half on that game. So Vegas is seen. That game is almost like a Almost like a 3531 3521. Yeah, 30 3821 somewhere in that neighborhood which is really unusual.

1:32:16 So yep, Brian is anything broke. Once we have been on here for the last hour and 33 minutes, I haven't seen anything crossed my timeline, buddy. All right. Well that is going to wrap up this episode of The Boundary core podcast listeners. I'm Curtis Wilson I'm Brian Sigler, visit our website at boundary corner. Be t.com to listen to all of our episodes while you're there. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram subscribe on YouTube and your favorite podcast Source, including Spotify, Amazon, and apple podcasts, as always we let our buddy. Jason Long play.

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