The Hokies put out another second half dud and the Clemson Tigers rolled out of Lane Stadium with a 24-14 win. We Tell the Truth about a Hokies team licking their wounds heading into their second bye week of the season. We bring on our friend Coach Robert Compton to dive a little deeper into what has turned into a relatively disappointing season for the Hokies.

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Music.
Then welcome back to the

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Boundary Corner Podcast, a part
of the College Huddle Network

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along with my partner Brian
Siegler and our special guest

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host tonight, Coach Robbie
Compton.

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That's right, it's only three
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Coach Robbie has joined us
tonight as we have two guys who

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are officially out on the
disabled list.

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Shelton is sick.
He's under the weather.

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Tally has obligations all week
for basketball.

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Literally.
Tally is going to be in the gym

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when he gets off work to 10:00
every night this week.

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Godspeed, Tally.
I know you love it.

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I know you love you, son.
We missed you this week.

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Brian's got something to say
again because I'm going to call

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it next week.
Brian, if I don't hear from this

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person, I will.
We put the.

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Meeting on the next one.
I, I mean, we're going to have

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to.
Maybe I'll win.

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Yes, because the holidays are
coming up and me and Brian will

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be traveling back and forth
amongst locations whether it be

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Halifax, the beach or just doing
things with our kiddos.

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And I ain't going to wait much
longer.

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We're not going to confiscate it
for our own use, where we'll be

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handed down every three months
to.

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He said he's not going to be as
nice as Jeremy and wait a month

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and a half to get the
PlayStation.

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And a half.
I don't know how all that went,

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but Robbie, my friend it, well,
it's not been a while.

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We literally talk every day
pretty much via text, sometimes

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a phone call.
But how you doing brother?

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Hanging in there, man, winding
down around the football season

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trying to get, you know,
equipment inventories done,

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things like that.
Wife wife's still working with

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her team.
They're starting their playoff

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run this week.
So we're, we're as much as I'd

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like to just get into watching
college football, there's still

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plenty of, of high school
football to go around around

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here.
So we're we're rolling on

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through it.
There we go man.

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So.
Curtis is going to have this

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meeting problem again this week.
Oh, freaking night.

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Brian took the microphone, told
me this one was better.

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And this one's.
You know what it it is better.

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I never had these issues with
with it with it on my end here

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though, so maybe this is Bruiser
air.

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Real quick, Robbie, I don't know
if you mentioned it while I was

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trying to get plugged back in,
but your wife's school still

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involved second round of
playoffs first.

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Round here in the first round,
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it'd be the second week, but
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everything and pushed everything
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Acted up a week.
They had a makeup week this past

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Friday night and then playoffs
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So lot of lot of very
interesting matchups.

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A lot of people are going to
have to do some, we're

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travelling to get away, get
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things like that so could be
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Yeah.
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I mean that that area of the
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up there with the roads there.
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interesting and just glad they
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thing going and.
There there was one team that my

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wife was projected to that her
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At one point they were from down
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going to have to take either a
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to South Carolina and up through
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into Tennessee up and back to 81
down 77 to it was going to turn

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a four hour trip and do about a
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They managed to move the move
the parents around a little bit

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so they wouldn't have to travel
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change a whole lot for that for
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Yeah, they're, they're kind of
isolated there right now, pretty

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much more or.
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Interstate 40 and and 20 say the
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that way is it's kind of cut off
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our area here over to Tennessee
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go around.
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It's quite a recovery,
recoveries working, but it's

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still a work in progress.
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and go through Chattanooga?
Lord, that was one way they

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could have gone around.
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northern Georgia, they'd have
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through Greenville, almost to
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back.
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Yeah, because Charlotte.
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towards more center of the state
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Yeah.
So we're right off of 77,

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between 77 and Interstate 40
really got you kind of where we

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sit.
All righty.

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Well, again for that part of
North Carolina, not too, too far

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from where Robbie coaches and
lives nowadays.

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Still again, many prayers.
It's still, I believe you had it

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on the bottom last week, Brian.
I'm not sure if you have it back

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on the bottom this week for
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Take a look at that.
But Robbie's here to talk ball

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with us.
Really, Robbie, you told me

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yesterday you have pretty much
watched almost every game except

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Miami, clearly your coach on
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And Thursday night is kind of,
oh, Friday night is kind of

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tough.
Can't watch that game.

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So but we're going to break it
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We're going to do, we always do
something that Robbie basically

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turned us on to the idea last
year of, and that is we've got

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to talk about the game first
before we get into the season

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stuff because Robbie's got some
very, very interesting opinions.

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I'm not going to say harsh.
Some of them are harsh, some of

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them aren't on the season in
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But we do have to tell the truth
Tuesday about what happened at

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Clemson or against Clemson last
week as the Hokies fall 2414 to

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go to 5:00 and 5:00 and it's the
middle of November and the

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Hokies are five and five again.
This is just like last year,

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almost.
Hokies held A7 nothing halftime

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lead before effectively getting
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Clemson puts up 24 straight
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And when you look at a game like
this, it's really kind of weird.

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But there were some things that
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this, Kate Klubnik had a run for
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game with the amount of
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the blitz schemes that were
picking or that Chris Marv sent.

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And it was a good thing.
You know, Hokies force 4 sacks

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had like an 8% havoc rate, which
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But let me ask both of y'all,
you know, what else did y'all

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see not only from the defensive
side, but other parts that you

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felt like went well on Tuesday?
I'll start with Brian.

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Yeah, I mean, I think the big
thing is the the pressure that

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that Marv was dialing up.
They constantly kept club Nick

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uncomfortable in the pocket.
I think that was the big thing

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that we saw.
Didn't give him a lot of time to

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to be able to sit back there and
and calculate where he wanted to

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go with the football.
A lot of times the plays that he

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was making were escaping the
pocket, throwing down field,

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shaking a tackle here to there.
So, you know, he wasn't exactly

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getting the the cleanest of
looks for most of the the the

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afternoon there.
So, you know, hats off tomorrow

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and a little bit of a bounce
back performance from a, you

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know, calling standpoint after
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I think overall just a, you know
a big bounce back week for that

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unit overall.
I mean, what about you?

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I, I would say that that the
pressure and that was one of the

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big emphasis is going into this
season was, was trying to get

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more pressure, even though APR
had been the pressure man last

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year, but they wanted to build
more pressure all the way across

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the front.
And I feel like they've really

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done that.
And I mean, anybody can argue

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with me if they want to feel
like the defensive line is a is

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a shining point of this team
right now.

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I mean, they're, they're going
out week in week out producing,

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doing the things that they're
pretty good at doing.

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They, you know, they need a
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them.
They're they're secondary is set

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up for that pressure.
A lot of man coverage and a lot

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of things like that.
And it, it, it's tough to do.

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So I mean, I, I applaud them for
for working at that and

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continuing to try to get that
pressure.

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I'm pretty sure APR is leading
the country in sacks right now,

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right?
He is that he's got 13 sacks.

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He is tied for first with Mike
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So leading it and the and the
unit itself has 31, which is top

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15.
They're I think they're on pace

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to I think they got 36 last
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They're on pace I think this
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I'd have to go back and confirm
my numbers on that.

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But what what else went well?
I mean, they're, they're

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obviously this thing was pretty
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of the fourth quarter.
So it was one of those things.

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But what else did y'all see,
Robbie?

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I'll go to you.
Nick.

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What else did you see watching
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Like they're doing this good.
I mean, I, I thought they for,

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for what they're dealing with in
some of the positions and things

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like that, with some injuries
and being kind of beat up and

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some, some lackluster things in
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In my opinion, I thought they
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I thought they'd come down.
They had a few coverage mistakes

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here and there.
One they, you know, and that's,

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that's the joys of, of playing
the, the man defense and, and

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stuff like that.
Your coverage when you think

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something's going it only takes
one man to kind of not even stop

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just kind of ease up a bit to
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and things get away from you
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And I mean I I thought
defensively played pretty well

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they scored the first touchdown
on special teams, which is

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something that Virginia Tech's
always had you know in their

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back pocket.
Is that that Bieber ball special

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teams.
It was good to see some of that

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kind of kind of rear its head
and.

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And show some good things.
I was, yeah, I was pleasantly

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surprised with that.
A lot of things went fairly

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well, special teams wise that it
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It seems to have been an issue
in the in earlier games at times

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here and there.
But I thought that was a good

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thing too.
And just to see people see some

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places continuing to try to put
things together and continuing

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to try to find the the best
things that they have and

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continuing to try to push
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Brian, what else?
What else?

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What about you?
What else went well for in your

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eyes as you were watching the
game Saturday afternoon?

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And I'm going to soon watch a
little bit of the replay on

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Sunday morning.
Yeah, I mean, you know, looking

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at the special teams unit in
general, I think they did had a

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pretty good outing there.
I mean, you, you, you open the

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game off with a pretty good kick
return, you know, get yourself,

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you know, across the 30th, you
know, almost across 35 there,

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you know, really good start to
the game there.

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You had the, you know, the block
that got returned for a

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touchdown to get, you know,
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You end up going into halftime
with that being the only score

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in the first half.
I mean, it's kind of a weird,

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weird game to watch offensively
because, you know, we didn't

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really do a whole lot, but we
were doing a whole lot well,

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especially when it came time to
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So I'd say, you know, we look at
those money downs from a

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defensive perspective.
We did a really good job of

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capitalizing on situations where
we're able to get them in in

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late downs and be able to get
off the field, whether it's, you

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know, interception, whether it's
a turnover on downs.

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Obviously we already talked
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So we had a lot of opportunities
out there and we were taking

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advantage of them on those,
those money downs in the first

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half.
Yeah, give.

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First of all, give special teams
big kudos on that, not only with

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the solid return again, Thomas
Williams, one of the young names

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that we're starting to see a
little bit more and more every

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week.
The block, it was younger guys.

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Burgos got in through that, got
in through the left side, which

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we've seen Clemson give up
multiple block kicks.

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So got in, got his hand up and
then quit and reddish again in

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the right spot, being coached to
do the right thing.

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This is the area you need to be
in on a block kick, getting it

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and then having the knowethal to
effectively know get outside.

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He did not try to because you
see some guys probably you've

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probably seen this ton in high
school football guy gets a block

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kick and just like just starts
running and it's like where you

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where you running to like you
run into where everybody is.

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You could see if he waited, he
hesitated and he kind of set up

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a couple blocks and he got on
the outside and ran it all the

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way back.
Peter Moore, I don't want to.

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Peter Moore kept this game
closer than it was because Peter

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Moore on more than one occasion
got them and booted them deeper

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than they should have been.
And, and and and that kept us in

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the game because it forced them
to take longer and longer

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drives.
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The the.
Yeah, and yeah, 20 yards to try

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to get to where the ball's going
to land.

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I mean that big.
It is big.

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The other piece that I'll say is
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It 167 is what we gave up.
But if I told anybody sitting

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here last week probably would
have texted Robbie and saying

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Phil Mahaffa averaging well over
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That's good team in general.
We kept under 3 or under 4

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basically 3.6.
It's like so as much as it as

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much as the bad part of the
defense showed the last 20

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minutes of Syracuse bringing the
game they brought maybe their

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best played game all year,
forcing turnover sacks, keeping

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a good running team somewhat
behind the stitch.

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Yeah, at they.
At they they, they didn't

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exactly go out there and like
shut them down, but they kept.

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Them they weren't 1.6 a carry,
they were 3.6.

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But against a team like Clemson,
3.6 is good.

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So there's your what went well.
Now first of all, the what went

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bad, the the the worst thing
that we saw regardless Saturday

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prayers up for him.
Gabe Williams getting injured.

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Gabe Williams, a someone who was
on this program when he got

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recruited, a great young man to
talk with full of energy gets

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injured has to be, you know,
basically put in the ambulance

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off.
I'm not sure the reports on him

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yet, but again, prayers up for
Gabe on that.

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But also the crazy thing is
Robbie, you you said us.

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He was the one of the guys he's
trying to he his leg ain't

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right.
He's trying to get up.

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He.
Tried to get up twice.

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He tried to make a play.
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So craziness.
So that's the really what went

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bad.
Brian, I'm going to pitch to you

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on this first because it was
your big thing that needed to be

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key.
What went bad?

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I mean, the the game plan was
kind of shit, right?

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Like, so when we look at the the
way we decided to attack this

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team, right?
So they're not the best run

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defense overall that I mean,
they're they're they're they're

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solid, but they're kind of
middle of the pack ACC, right.

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Overall, they're down to
defensive line starters and one

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linebacker starter in this game.
And we decided we weren't really

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going to establish a running
game at all, especially from the

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running back position.
And you know, before we go any

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further, let's go ahead and say
we we saw to out there, but

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Tootin was not anywhere close to
100%.

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Somebody was there in Tootin's
uniform.

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Tootin was nowhere near 100% and
you know, we didn't really give

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him a ton of touches.
The problem I had is that we

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didn't really give another
running back any touches.

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We didn't give another running
back touch.

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It it was insane.
So what lane I think had one or

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two carries.
We we let, we let Kyron run for

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about what, 9 or 10 times and.
Then we ran 5.

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Yeah.
And then and then you get, you

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know what, 2 net 3/2.
Net 4 at 4:00 and me and Robbie

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talked about this.
Brian, I think I've texted you

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as well.
You know how many plays Tude was

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on the field?
Well, like 50% of the offensive

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snaps. 30 yeah, and Coney was on
the field the other 30.

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Yeah, and we and we didn't throw
the ball enough to not have

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gotten Coney involved in this
offensive game plan.

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And if you know that you're
running your your your primary

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weapon is injured.
Your other primary weapon, at

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least in the running game is
coming off an injury.

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And definitely also did not look
himself either in Kyron drones.

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And you don't give the number 2
running back in this game at

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least because Thomas is out any
carries.

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That's malpractice, man.
That's malpractice.

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That's that's not that's that's
not taking care of your players

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that are coming back.
That's not that's not taking

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advantage of the weapons that
you have available to you.

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And I think that's the bigger
problem that I have is that we

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saw Coney, you know, a couple
weeks back-to-back, make some

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big plays, been very effective
in the running game and you

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don't give him a single carry.
And he was on the field 30

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times.
Yeah, that was the bigger issue.

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He's he's been effective in the
past and and yeah, you recruited

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him for a reason.
Give him that a shot.

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You got him on the field 50% of
the plays in the game right

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here.
Give him something.

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See what he can do.
You know, if he's losing yards

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every play, I get it.
But I mean, you got to find

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something.
Well, the more irritating part

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about that, me and Robbie, me
and you talked about yesterday,

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Robbie, was, it's not like you
said a saying go, Brian.

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It's not like Coney was all,
this is the first time he's ever

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played.
He freaking had 10 yards of

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carry against Syracuse.
He broke a big one.

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And if he didn't break a big
one, he was still getting

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roughly about 6A pop.
Like you said, Brian, it's

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malpractice that he was not
involved in that game plan,

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whether Malachi Thomas or not.
Robbie, you said something to me

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yesterday.
I don't you kind of back it up

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now because you were you were
you asked.

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We kind of talked through it.
How many how many games can I

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got a red shirt?
Four, yeah, I can appear in four

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games and as long as that rule
is still the same, I don't, I

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don't think it's changed, but
they can appear in four games.

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So where was the freshman?
The freshman from down your way.

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We were talking about that,
Brian, like, OK, here's your

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chance.
Get him to play against

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competition.
You are down running backs and

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you can say, well, they're not
ready.

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I want to say you're playing
right now if if you're out there

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struggling and we were mightily
struggling on offense.

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I mean that depth charge
depleted.

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Give some guys some run, man.
You got your, you got your.

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Your two top backs are one's
banged up to the point of being

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ineffective.
The other one is not playing in

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this game.
You have to get them involved in

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this game plan.
Have to.

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Yeah, I just I mean, you're
you're depleted it running back

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anyway.
You've got, you know, one guy on

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the field injured.
You've got another guy out hurt.

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You've got another guy I I'm
assuming this hurt too.

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And and prelude.
You're muted, Curtis.

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PJ Kirk PJ Like broke did
something bad with the bottle.

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Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you've got several

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injuries, you're at home, so I
mean, there's no travel, you

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know, there's no restriction on
the number of travel.

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So there's no reason the kid
shouldn't have been there

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dressed and ready to play if
they needed something.

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Play.
I mean, that that's my look on

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it.
But the.

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Question is.
What do you have?

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I've seen enough of Mason
playing that I feel like he's

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definitely got something they
can play because I mean, he is

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from, he is from Mount Airy down
here, 40 minutes away.

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The, the team my wife works with
plays them.

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They're conference opponents.
I mean, he he's legit.

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I mean, I don't see why I was a
reason not to give him some kind

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of shot.
Or somebody else.

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I mean, like, yeah, anybody on
your depth chart should have

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gotten a carry in in this game
other than drones and Tooting,

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but somehow nobody else in that
in that backfield got a single

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touch.
And Mason had not played a game

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this year.
It's not ultimately played a

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game.
If if we were going out there

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and we were running the football
effectively, then OK, if they

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don't get, if they don't get
carries, they don't get carries.

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It is what it is.
But when you are that

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ineffective offensively for the
majority of the game, like

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you're, you're seeing like
little sparks here and there.

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You have a good play here, good
play there, but you can't string

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a damn drive together to save
your ass and you don't give any

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of these guys touches.
It's wild this.

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Is like the this is what we'll
talk about some of the stuff

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later with Robbie, just more his
observations on the season is so

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we've seen again, it's what you
kind of said, Brian.

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It's the ebbs and flows of this
team.

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Last week, not last week, two
weeks ago the the offense puts

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30 plus up.
The defense just looks like shit

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for 20 minutes of the game this
week.

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The defense against a very
talented roster.

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Whether you like Dabo, hate
Dabo.

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He's indifferent.
They have talent.

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Kate Public was not that high
rated just for shits and

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giggles.
He is a good collegiate

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quarterback.
Phil Moff is a good running

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back.
Some of their wide receivers are

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good players.
They held that team down for the

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better for a whole half and kept
them in check for a good part of

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2nd.
Half other other than another

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disastrous third quarter, we we,
we played very, very good it.

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Was 14-7 after the third
quarter, though.

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Go ahead.
You're about to.

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He's about to.
Close down with the, the, the

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Ethan's, the the Cadence and the
caves and the and the all those

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guys might have been a little
bit better than we thought they

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were.
Some of them were.

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Might have been a little bit
better than we gave them credit

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for to start with.
They came and played, they came

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and played straight up.
So let me ask this because

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obviously that went bad.
The money downs were not good.

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That's something he caught my
eye.

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When you're like 2 of 15 on 3rd
down, you're you're not going to

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win many at all.
So, but the other thing that

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like just what went bad in
general for the offense as well

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was the Rops because we were 16
to 37 and then there were 6

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total drops, I believe.
And a couple of them, nobody

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was, I mean, it was it was good
passes by Colin, it was good

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passes by Kyra.
And that in in a game like this,

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it drives you crazy because on a
couple of those, if they're

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caught, it's momentum swings,
it's flipping the field, it's

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potentially getting into a field
goal range where things

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potentially change different.
Anything that y'all saw where

445
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,240
guys just was a nerves, where
they take their eyes off the

446
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,400
ball, something I can't look
for?

447
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,440
You know, I didn't really see
anything that stood out to me as

448
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,160
far as like just just technique
or, or anything like that.

449
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,440
It's just in the in, sometimes
in that crunch time, like you,

450
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,360
you just try to pull it in, you
don't pull it in.

451
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,840
And and it wasn't necessarily
one guy that we saw it from.

452
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,360
We kind of saw it from a handful
of different guys.

453
00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:45,080
I mean, we look at drops on the
year.

454
00:26:46,360 --> 00:26:51,000
It's really, it's been kind of a
problem throughout the year.

455
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:56,440
But in this game it was
definitely a a big problem just

456
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,320
just as much in my opinion, as
some of the the things we saw

457
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,880
with with play calling, not
necessarily, you know,

458
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,080
deployment of personnel, but
just play calling in general.

459
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,200
As much as play calling was a
problem in this game, I think

460
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,480
drops were a problem in this
game because both of those kill

461
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,320
drives pretty pretty
significantly throughout this

462
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,360
one.
Yeah, I I can agree with that.

463
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,560
The, the drop balls are going to
hurt you every time because

464
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:28,440
they, they give you, not only do
you not gain yards out of it,

465
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,600
but you receivers start to get a
little bit of doubt in their

466
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,120
mind about, you know, what
they're doing.

467
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,560
They start to think about or why
didn't I catch that, especially

468
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,960
as a trend that keeps going.
They, they start to players

469
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,920
start to think about things like
that and you can't let that

470
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,040
doubt kind of creep in.
I, I guess is what I'm trying to

471
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,600
get to.
We, we deal with some of that

472
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,720
sometimes with some of our high
school kids.

473
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,400
And it's a lot easier with the
high school kids to let that

474
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,440
doubt creep in because they're
obviously in, some of them are

475
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,560
in the same level of, of what
Virginia Tech has.

476
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:14,640
But those things, they kind of,
excuse me, unless you really get

477
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,080
a handle on them quickly, they
can snowball very quickly.

478
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,800
And, and that's not that that
turns into a bad thing.

479
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,840
Well.
That that's also really

480
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,160
important with a team like
Virginia Tech that still, you

481
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,840
know, unfortunately still at
this point still grasping for

482
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,960
some identity and still playing
up and down relative to where

483
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,000
their confidence level is at a
given moment in time.

484
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,320
And drops are going to kill
confidence, like you said there.

485
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,240
So when you got a team that is
still very confidence dependent

486
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,240
in terms of how the flow of the
game goes, that can really hurt

487
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:57,520
you. 100% All right, let's flip
over this and I'm going to start

488
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,800
off with mine and then y'all can
follow up with yours.

489
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,200
But anything that happened we
were not prepared for.

490
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:07,400
And one thing that I was not
prepared for and it shows in the

491
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,440
stat lines and in my eyes and
maybe my eyes deceive me.

492
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Clemson only had one sack, but
our pest protection held up

493
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,600
better than I thought it would.
Now I know they were missing 2

494
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,760
studs with Capehart and oh
what's his name?

495
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,520
You talked about them all last
week, Brian.

496
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,240
It's not TJ Parker, the other
kid.

497
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,560
Oh Peter.
Peter.

498
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,680
But still.
Clemson is a middle of the road

499
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,840
sack team.
Wish Sheldon was here.

500
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:41,600
You'd probably give us where
they are on pressure rate.

501
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,400
But when I see that and there
were times where Kyron had time

502
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,200
to make the pass and you could
tell a couple times he wasn't

503
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,760
pulling the triggers and and I
think and some people are going

504
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:56,080
land based him, but he's coming
off a foot injury and y'all both

505
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,200
played.
I know both of y'all broke your

506
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,000
legs in high school.
Brine ankle.

507
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,480
Robbie, I remember when you
broke your leg.

508
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,800
Robbie.
I do remember that.

509
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,840
Please believe it or not, boys,
I was like 25 years ago.

510
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,520
Take a deep breath.
It was an ankle, too.

511
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:12,840
It was an ankle, yeah.
But tell me like land based him

512
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,920
all you want, but it's like,
well, if a guy's coming back

513
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,040
when you you're hitting that
foot, if it don't feel right, I

514
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,160
can see where you're not going
to be as confident or you're not

515
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,360
going to pull the trigger as
quick.

516
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,120
I get that.
But for me it was more the

517
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,040
offensive line and how it held
up because I did not foresee the

518
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,920
offensive line playing like that
pass protection wise on

519
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,520
Saturday.
What about y'all?

520
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,320
Anything you were not prepared
for?

521
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,400
I was definitely not prepared to
go into halftime with a a

522
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,160
special teams touchdown being
the only points on the board.

523
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,200
Yes.
And for, for good or I'll like

524
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,320
honestly looking at the the way
that first half, because I was

525
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,160
like, this is not going to be a
good situation for us because I

526
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,520
don't see us necessarily
improving significantly

527
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,920
offensively.
And despite the fact that we

528
00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,920
were up 7 nothing, they were in
our our territory a pretty good

529
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,000
amount in that first half.
They just didn't come away with

530
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,320
any points.
And some of that was because of

531
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,600
good plays on money down.
She had an interception, he had

532
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,240
a block field goal, you know,
but some of that was, you know,

533
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,160
they decided to go forward
instead of taking some points

534
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,640
and we just made some plays And
you know, they left some points

535
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,200
on the field in the first half
that I felt like, you know, they

536
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,360
they could have definitely been,
you know, plus one, you know,

537
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,040
plus 3, whatever, whatever the
situation could have been there

538
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:37,240
scoreboard wise.
But we go in up 7 after all that

539
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,960
craziness in the first half.
Very, very good defensive game.

540
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,360
If you like watching defense.
I mean, that's a pretty good,

541
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:49,400
good half of defense because,
you know, we we made some plays

542
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,960
there.
We just couldn't string drives

543
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,520
together.
They made some plays and strong

544
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,160
drives together, but couldn't
finish them.

545
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,920
And, and and there was a whole
lot of good defensive played in

546
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,320
that first half.
So really, really impressed by

547
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,280
that on both sides of it.
And like I said, did not expect

548
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,040
to go into halftime with the
just one special teams touchdown

549
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,280
being the only points all.
Right.

550
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,320
What about you, Rod?
Anything you are not prepared

551
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,640
for sitting down?
Were you at the house watching

552
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,280
the game?
Yeah, sitting, sitting here kind

553
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,680
of, kind of by myself watching
it.

554
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,480
Oh, I'm sure that's great.
That's one of those great

555
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,600
feelings.
You get to sit and watch

556
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,440
football game by yourself.
Yeah, it's, it's kind of

557
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,680
enjoyable.
The big thing I was not prepared

558
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,040
for was, you know, when, when
you first turn it on and you and

559
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,000
you see Tooting warming up, you
see drones warming up.

560
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,280
They're OK, they're playing.
They've got to be, they've got

561
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,240
to be ready chomping at the bit
full speed, ready to go.

562
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:49,360
I, I was, I wasn't expecting
them to look as ineffective and

563
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,200
as as kind of limped up as they
were.

564
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,280
I I feel like I in my mind, I
kind of expected they were

565
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:01,120
prepared to go considering they
didn't play last week, that they

566
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,360
were going to be ready to go.
And I just even from the start

567
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,920
with both of them, they didn't
look like they were Tooting

568
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:19,840
looked more like a decoy and
drones looked more like a a a, a

569
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,680
whittle captain of I got to be
out there for my team.

570
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,320
But knowing that he's not going
to be as effective as as he

571
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,600
could be and that I wasn't
prepared for just seeing both of

572
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,520
them in the starting lineup.
I was much more prepared for for

573
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,520
a fight out of those two.
And not saying that they didn't

574
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,880
have the fight in them, but
physically they they just

575
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,920
didn't.
Yeah.

576
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,120
It's it's, it's sometimes it's,
it's the it's the doing right,

577
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,360
it's the doing right.
Like you're ready for it and

578
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,720
then you start doing it's just
like it doesn't feel right.

579
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,480
It doesn't feel right.
Big shout out here from Lavar

580
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,280
and and that stinks because a
they I mean the way they were

581
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,800
out there.
I mean it was a couple times I

582
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,400
remember I saw two to pick up a
blitz and you know, and I know

583
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,600
y'all know from like picking up
a blitz on like the way he did

584
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,000
on a hurt foot that had to hurt
like a.

585
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,600
Mother.
So there's some things we were

586
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,560
not prepared for.
So I mean, the only other thing

587
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:27,360
you can say is should they have,
and again, this is the second,

588
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,320
then maybe this is the game
planning Brian was talking

589
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,000
about.
If you knew they weren't

590
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,600
completely right, should you
have just said guys get right,

591
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,360
like get right?
Like you're not 100% there.

592
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,880
But I'm sure, again, probably to
your point, Robbie, they

593
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,360
probably like no coach.
This is the biggest game.

594
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,760
I you know, if we win this game,
we still might can make the 8th

595
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,000
week.
Things got to happen.

596
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,000
We still might can make it a
Charlotte coach.

597
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:56,239
And it's, it's, it's, it's a
coaching thing in my mind.

598
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:02,800
Like you look at had they had
they won last week and all of

599
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,120
that still on the table, having
to do everything.

600
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,640
Then I see those two guys giving
everything.

601
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:15,960
They got half, you know, 68% of
whatever they were standing when

602
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,240
they took the field that day.
But the fact that it went down

603
00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:22,440
last week the way it did and
coming into this, you've got to

604
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,960
kind of look, I mean, tooting's
done after this year, right?

605
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:31,800
Drones effectively could be
back.

606
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,880
You've got to protect that kind
of investment.

607
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,200
Really.
I mean, I, I get, I get from a

608
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,200
coaches perspective, and you're
going to put the best thing you

609
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,600
can out there.
And if you think those two at

610
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:49,240
70% are better than what you
have backing them up and gives

611
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:50,880
you the best opportunity, you go
with it.

612
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,080
But at some point, you know,
what are you winning out of

613
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,600
this?
If you win the game and lose

614
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,720
both of them for the rest of the
year, you know, that kind of

615
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,920
thing.
And they just, they didn't look

616
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:06,760
effective.
And that that was kind of the

617
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,400
unexpected part.
Well, more to that, like not

618
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,800
identifying that earlier in the
game, like you, you waited till

619
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,960
very late to go to Schlee.
You never really went to anybody

620
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,520
else other than two.
And even though you had somebody

621
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,920
else on the field for a lot of
snaps, like at some point you

622
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,760
got to figure out I've got to
generate offense and I'm, and

623
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,080
I'm not having success with my
studs for one reason or another.

624
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,600
You know, injuries, you know,
the, the mental piece of it

625
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,000
there.
There's, there's a lot of things

626
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,080
out there that these guys were
not at 100% in this game.

627
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,760
And you got to weigh that like,
all right, they're out there.

628
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,160
If they're not, if they're not
able to play at the at that

629
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:53,080
percentage, are they potentially
putting themselves in a

630
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,000
situation where they can get
more seriously hurt #1 #2 if I'm

631
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,880
not generating offense, if they
are not being effective in what

632
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,840
I'm trying to do schematically
on offense, I need to do

633
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,400
something different.
Yeah.

634
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,280
And that that was either not
addressed or was addressed so

635
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,640
late it didn't matter.
Yeah, All righty, we'll move one

636
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,400
last piece here before we flip
it over and talk to some Robbie,

637
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,160
a little bit more about this
season.

638
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,920
We'll start with Brian on this.
Brian, what is something better

639
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,000
this team can do moving forward?
Because as of right now, it's

640
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,480
five and five.
Got to win one of the next two

641
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,840
to become bowl eligible.
What some of the team can do

642
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,240
better moving forward.
Something they can do better

643
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:43,600
moving forward.
That's a tough one, man, because

644
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:44,120
I I.
Feel.

645
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,400
Win, win.
Win, win's a very good high

646
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,040
level one.
Yeah, I mean, let's let's win

647
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,200
two more games and at least say
you're better than you were last

648
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,800
year, right.
So I don't think, I think the

649
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,800
problem that we had and the
problem that we're facing with

650
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:09,360
this team and.
I don't know.

651
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,080
Brian froze.
Oh man, the tally.

652
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,680
The tally magic is coming to
Brian's I.

653
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:18,160
Was fully expecting that to be
my problem at some point, didn't

654
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,680
I?
Oh, you got Starlink right?

655
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,200
No, no, no, no.
I'm on spectrum now.

656
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,200
Spectrum.
Yeah, we got out of there.

657
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,720
We got out of the bottom.
OK, Brian.

658
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,200
Brian All right, Robbie, you
said when anything else they can

659
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:38,320
do better moving forward?
Just got a got to get some

660
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:43,040
consistency and and multiple
facets of the game, find an

661
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:47,920
identity and push through.
I'm kind of, you know, I'm kind

662
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,640
of in and out of this whole
podcast thing.

663
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,800
I I show up every once in a
while when you guys give me an

664
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,200
opportunity.
But I follow a couple of couple

665
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,040
other different podcasts here,
Virginia Tech wise and listen to

666
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,400
some of them.
One of them suggested yesterday

667
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,520
that the urine atrocity to put
be put back.

668
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,680
And I guess that's one of the
things that that's going to be

669
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,120
helping.
I don't know if y'all heard any

670
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:13,320
about that, but I caught AI
caught a quick piece of it on a

671
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,560
TikTok and some some different
things.

672
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,080
And if I can remember the name
right off the top of my head, I

673
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,240
would throw it out there.
But it was quite amusing to to

674
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:27,320
hear them talk about that.
But I don't know if that that

675
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,280
that seems like more of a long
term thing just to get ready for

676
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,520
for the next one is take this
week that that they have off

677
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,200
kind of get healthy, find some
things that they know they can

678
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,600
really capitalize on.
And and then and then go to go

679
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:51,200
to Durham and, and try to put
something on the field that, you

680
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,320
know, it's fully competitive top
to bottom four quarters, you

681
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:00,520
know, and multiple facets of the
game because Manny Diaz and that

682
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,000
crowded Duke, they're going to
they're going to they're going

683
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,360
to be riding a little high after
beating NC State and.

684
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,400
They're going to, they're going
to push some things and, and,

685
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,240
and try to force them into doing
some things.

686
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:16,560
So I really think going forward,
they need to make sure that they

687
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,800
like stay focused on getting
healthy, stay focused on getting

688
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,320
that identity and figuring out
what they want to do.

689
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,080
They got two weeks to prepare
for that game.

690
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,600
So I think that's a big thing
for them.

691
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,240
And, and just find some things
that work.

692
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:33,560
If if it means Tooting their
drones or whoever is not

693
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,520
available for that game, figure
out who is going to be available

694
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,840
and and find the best place that
that are going to put them in

695
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,640
the best situations and make
those things work.

696
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,960
Brian, what were you saying
before you you pulled a tally

697
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,680
and pros?
Yeah, I apparently have Alabama

698
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,000
Internet tonight.
Shit, what the hell was I

699
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,960
saying?
It sounded really good.

700
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:59,040
And then you just pros.
I was talking about, you know,

701
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,960
we got to win the game when and,
and I think, you know, when we

702
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,080
look at this team, I think we're
recalibrating what the

703
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:13,440
expectations of this team were
and what they actually are.

704
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,400
And you know, right now what
they actually are is basically a

705
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,800
slightly different version of
what we saw last year.

706
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,040
That's talking, that's coaching,
that's that's talent, that's

707
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,400
that's a little bit of
everything.

708
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,320
And and we thought they were
going to be, we thought they

709
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:33,200
were going to take a progression
level step plus add in a couple

710
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,360
of new pieces that we were
pretty, pretty happy about.

711
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,480
And I think, you know, some of
those pieces have have done

712
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:43,720
pretty well when we look at the
defensive line, I think everyone

713
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:46,400
that's played significant snaps.
Has played well.

714
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,320
Has played well and I, I don't
think you have a whole lot to

715
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,320
really complain about from that
front.

716
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,440
I think Brumfield's been OK.
I think from a leadership

717
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,720
standpoint, we've seen his play
matter more than we have

718
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:04,560
necessarily from, you know, high
in, you know, he's not going out

719
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,240
there and causing havoc, but
he's also a guy that's pretty

720
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:10,160
much where you need him to be
most of the time.

721
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,360
And sometimes that's that's
better than the alternative.

722
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,800
And, and, and we've seen that
kind of kind of be be the case

723
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,520
this year.
You know, so we've had these

724
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,160
pieces come in that we were, we
were kind of excited about.

725
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,040
We had some spots we were a
little bit worried about.

726
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,480
And I think the the biggest
thing that, you know, I think

727
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,760
that has taken a little bit of a
step back is that we thought we

728
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,160
were going to be a little bit
more explosive in the passing

729
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,560
game.
And we just have not been an

730
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:45,000
exclusive passing team at any
point of the season outside of a

731
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,600
play here or there, right?
We we, we will have a player to

732
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,720
a game where we look like we
could that's the team that we

733
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:51,880
could have been.
And but we what we haven't

734
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,760
really put all those pieces
together like we expected to

735
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,840
this year and have those, you
know, games like Syracuse last

736
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,600
year where we just kind of, you
know, blew teams out and

737
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,400
overwhelmed them in in various
ways.

738
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,120
Our offense has not been quite
as dynamic, I think consistently

739
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,760
dynamic as we expected to be.
I think we expected this team to

740
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:20,760
be more or less a slightly
better version of the product we

741
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,160
saw to close the year last year.
We expected.

742
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,480
And we reset, we hit, we hit the
reset button a little bit.

743
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,800
We could we took a we took a
step back and it took us almost

744
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,200
a month to really get back to
that level.

745
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,600
And I think in some ways it's
improved.

746
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,440
I think the running game overall
is probably a little bit better

747
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,560
than it was at any point last
year.

748
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:46,600
But I think, you know, you got
tape on what drones can do and

749
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,160
coaches have have went to work
on taking away the things he

750
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,960
does well and giving him some
problems in the things areas

751
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,680
that he's probably not as
polished in.

752
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,800
And that's been a problem.
And we haven't really had a

753
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,560
great counter punch to that.
So, you know, we're

754
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,600
recalibrating those expectations
and we're we're realizing that

755
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,240
we're, we're basically kind of
what we were last year maybe a

756
00:44:11,240 --> 00:44:14,240
little bit better and we're
playing a schedule that's a

757
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:18,400
little bit less forgiving. 19th
toughest schedule in the country

758
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,800
this year.
I don't think we expected that

759
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:25,240
out of the gates definitely.
But as far as what we can do

760
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:27,520
better moving forward, as we
kind of wrap Tell the Truth

761
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,000
Tuesday up, I think they've got
to figure a way to play some of

762
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,720
the young guys in meaningful
situations.

763
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:37,640
Not garbage, but you've got to
get them out there to get the

764
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,000
game speed in their head.
Not just special teams.

765
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,040
I'm talking about plays all over
the place.

766
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,920
So, you know, that's where I am.
Brian, you said a lot of good

767
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,120
stuff there.
We're going to continue that

768
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,480
conversation with Robbie.
I just want to give a shout out

769
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,000
to a few people here.
First of all, one of our loyal

770
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,320
listeners, Andretti, always good
to hear from you.

771
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:06,040
Andretti up in Philly, blood
country kind of with you, Brian.

772
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,640
We expected to average 30, allow
17 and it's been averaged like

773
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:14,080
26 at give up like 20-3.
And that's when effectively

774
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,800
Jim's Josh is kind of right
there with you too.

775
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,000
But it's one of those things
where it's five games by 31

776
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:27,120
points, it's five games by 31
points and, and I know Robbie

777
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:27,760
got.
To win.

778
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,560
Exactly.
He's got to win.

779
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,960
We talk about that all the time,
the high school levels you got,

780
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,440
you don't, you can't just win.
You have to learn how to win.

781
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,280
You have to know how to win.
And when you, when you're in a

782
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,440
lot of those tight games like
that, it comes down to knowing

783
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,360
when to really put the foot down
defensively and, and, you know,

784
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,480
cut off the airway on that
thread or really drive things

785
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,440
down.
And and you know, as we always

786
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,840
talk about, run the ball when
you when the other team knows

787
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,720
you're going to run the ball
and.

788
00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:01,080
Just do it.
And Curb song, those things,

789
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,440
Curb song, you have to learn how
to do those.

790
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,400
And what I was talking about
with the with the the funny

791
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,680
parts of that podcast about what
could have went wrong.

792
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:16,800
It was the V the Virginia Tech
for Legends guys on the podcast.

793
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,880
Oh yeah.
So Grayson went on that.

794
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:23,560
Grayson and Joe went on that.
Race Grayson Wimbish and he's

795
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,200
he's talking about the urinal
troughs and sharing the Turkey

796
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,280
legs and man, I laughed at that
thing for I don't know how long

797
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,200
listening to them talk about
that Grayson is.

798
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:34,840
Fucking hilarious.
We love having Grayson.

799
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,640
On here.
Don't worry, I have a feeling

800
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,360
you and Grayson are going to be
sharing the same screen about a

801
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,480
month or right at about 5 weeks
from today.

802
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,280
Yeah, day was.
Sounds like pencil.

803
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,920
It in on your calendar.
December 20th is the tentative

804
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,640
state of the program day.
I know school schools ended for

805
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,080
y'all on the 20th of December so
you can and you don't have good

806
00:46:57,240 --> 00:47:00,200
Internet service so you won't go
in and out like last year.

807
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,760
Actually, you won't have to
travel to South Boston the next

808
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,400
day, so nobody will be angry
with.

809
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,600
Me.
Yeah, exactly.

810
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,320
Trying to figure when their last
day of school would be there.

811
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,120
I think it's like the 18th,
17th, something like that.

812
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,760
Yeah.
So you will be, you will be well

813
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,680
prepared for that.
But anyway, by the way, that is

814
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,760
going to be, we are looking
right now tentative date,

815
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,280
December 20th.
It's a Friday night because I

816
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,760
ain't stupid enough to do that
thing on me work day.

817
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:27,080
I will have to be hungover the
next day.

818
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,800
If my wife tells me to run
errands, I can live with that.

819
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,960
I cannot live with going to work
with hangover.

820
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,520
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821
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,880
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822
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823
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He is effectively the one that.

824
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,320
Kicked that thing tradition
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825
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,880
In none other.
The question is will the baby

826
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,480
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827
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,040
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828
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829
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,240
we continue talking with Coach
Robbie Compton here.

830
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:04,000
I had long time buddy Robbie
again.

831
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,880
Robbie has pretty much got to
watch every game this year,

832
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,280
which he is very proud of
because being a high school

833
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:11,960
football coach, sometimes it
gets tough.

834
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,400
And we bringing Robbie's opinion
on because a, Robbie has

835
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:22,080
obviously been on Virginia Tech
numerous times, he said in coach

836
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,840
meeting rooms.
And we wanted to ask just Robbie

837
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,400
some questions, not only from
his perspective of knowing the

838
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,200
staff, but just from his
perspective of going to like

839
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,520
AFCA clinics, going to other
coaching clinics, getting to

840
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,320
know these guys.
We've got some things we want to

841
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,600
unload on him and he kind of
wants to unload too because he's

842
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,440
had to hold this in for 10 games
other than texting us

843
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,040
occasionally being blowing off.
But we got a few things we're

844
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,320
going to ask him, and I'm going
to let Brian kick that off.

845
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:52,480
Yeah, man.
And you know, we've got to get

846
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:57,920
like Nuggets here there
throughout these 10 games, you

847
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,920
know, and I think, I think
sometimes, you know, as a, as a

848
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,720
coach, you kind of understand
I've got to, I've got to see a

849
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,080
little bit more before I
actually make this assessment.

850
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,080
I got to see a little bit more
before I actually make this

851
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,640
assessment.
So at the start of the year, the

852
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,600
criticism was like, it's there,
but it's getting better.

853
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,960
It's there.
But I, I, I see something.

854
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,960
And then as it goes on, you know
what?

855
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,440
This is a trend, guys, we got
it.

856
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:24,440
We got to, we got to start
talking about this a little bit

857
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,280
more.
So I'm going to start here.

858
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,880
Why do you feel?
This team has an offensive

859
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:39,600
identity issue.
There's from watching the things

860
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:47,120
that I see, there doesn't seem
to be enough consistency and

861
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:51,480
trust and, and what they're
trying to do.

862
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,000
We know they can run the ball,
especially when healthy.

863
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,720
I know when you get injuries,
it's kind of stacked up and it

864
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:01,560
hurts.
It hurts tremendously.

865
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:12,000
But we, we, we talked about the,
the returning receiver group.

866
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,480
They're coming.
And it almost feels like it

867
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,640
didn't.
They haven't been used quite as

868
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,560
effectively, quite pushing the
boundaries with some of those

869
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:26,840
receivers like the the game
against Clemson, while you

870
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,800
always want to have your one and
two backs in there with Thomas

871
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,400
and and and Tooting.
But you got these guys, you

872
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,400
recruited these guys, you saw
something in them that you would

873
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,320
trust.
Why are they not getting the

874
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,160
opportunity?
Why are we not continuing to

875
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,440
put, if we're going to be in
build an identity on running the

876
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,000
ball and running RP OS off of
that run and attacking those

877
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,520
things?
Why aren't we, you know, why

878
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,880
aren't they pushing those
things?

879
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:55,880
Why are they continuing to do
that?

880
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,880
It almost feels like they're
they're kind of holding back and

881
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:02,840
and not committing to anything
particular.

882
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,120
And I don't, I don't, I just
kind of don't understand why.

883
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,120
Now, if there's been injuries
since the beginning of the

884
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,200
season that they've been
fighting, then maybe that

885
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,480
answers the question.
But you know, I the, the biggest

886
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,160
issue is it doesn't look like
there's been a commitment to

887
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:26,560
working certain things.
And I, I, I worry about that.

888
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,920
Can I ask you this, Robbie and
me and you hit on this?

889
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,360
Me and Robbie had about a hour
long conversation yesterday and

890
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,120
that happens with me, him, Ryan
sometime with Jason too

891
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,600
probably.
Better in stay holiday.

892
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,960
Yeah, he'd have to work.
I was sitting here working,

893
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,200
doing some things in the
background.

894
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,160
But I want to ask you this, go
back to those first few games

895
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:50,040
and when you when you and you
said it to me yesterday when you

896
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,640
didn't see the pocket roll a lot
those first couple games.

897
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,400
Yeah.
And and I'm sure you go back

898
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:59,040
last year like that shit worked
because because you talked about

899
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,560
a couple times from a defensive
perspective with who Kyron

900
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,720
Drones is, you roll that pocket,
Whoever that's linebacker is on

901
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:09,400
that side of the ball is in a
fucking mind because if you

902
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,360
choose to go attack him, he is a
good enough and and Shelton has

903
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,320
showed this.
He's a good enough intermediate

904
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,840
passer.
He's probably going to complete

905
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,680
the ball to what's behind you.
If you don't attack him, he's

906
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,000
going to go angle to sideline.
He's going to get four to six

907
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,960
yards.
When you see that where it's

908
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:25,440
like it's a bread and butter
play.

909
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,560
You rolled the pocket, you got
some positive almost every

910
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,840
fucking time.
And you don't see a person call

911
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,720
that.
And I know it's been, oh, it's

912
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:38,160
been scouted more, but still, if
that linebacker stays home, it's

913
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,400
still four to six yards, right?
Every time.

914
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,080
When you see that out of the
playbook, what does it say to

915
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,840
you as a coach?
Like, what does that say to you?

916
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,080
Like why isn't that there?
In my question, in my mind, it

917
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,800
immediately questions why isn't
it?

918
00:52:54,320 --> 00:53:00,920
And like I said, is it because
he's Karen hadn't been as

919
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:05,520
effective doing those things?
Is it because he's dealing with

920
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,280
some kind of injury since the
beginning of the season that is

921
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,160
not going to allow him to do
that as much?

922
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:15,480
I mean, I, I know these coaches,
they don't have to answer to us,

923
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:23,360
you know, but like, you kind of
wonder exactly why, you know, as

924
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,760
a fan, you're going to look at
it and go, this was so effective

925
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:27,960
before.
Why isn't it?

926
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,960
Why aren't you doing it now?
And there has to be a reason

927
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,160
behind it.
And that's part of what I

928
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,840
wondered.
I mean, it has drums been beat

929
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:43,240
up since spring ball or since
fall camp that that's causing

930
00:53:43,240 --> 00:53:46,640
some of these issues?
Is there they just don't trust

931
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,760
decision making?
Do they not trust the is some

932
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,880
trust been lost in the receivers
and and with the drops and

933
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,280
things?
What's the reason behind not

934
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,280
doing those things?
We can't see that our biggest

935
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:05,840
question.
Well, and and and but I'll let

936
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,560
you chat and you're saying and
but that's the whole piece is we

937
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,280
don't understand.
It's if he's it will a if he's

938
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,520
injured, then why are you still
plowing him into the line?

939
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,040
If he's still injured?
That is the first thing is he is

940
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,760
he still injured?
But then it's it's I'm going to

941
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,480
put up with Josh said here
because I like what he said

942
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:29,040
right there.
I mean, obviously he's a little.

943
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,920
Yeah, he's somewhat, but at the
beginning of seasoning team it's

944
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,000
like that he doesn't know what
he's trying to do himself.

945
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,920
He's like, well maybe I need to
do this and I need to do that

946
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,120
versus, you know, there's always
bread and butter plays.

947
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:47,240
I mean, y'all, y'all know who
I'm a fan of with the Niners?

948
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:53,120
We all we all have our teams
right Right now for for each

949
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,160
three of us.
Robbie gets to be happy this

950
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,600
year because his Washington boys
are rolling.

951
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,280
Brian, your team still fighting
still not out of it.

952
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:05,040
But for example, go go go to all
three of us bread and butter.

953
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,840
San Francisco plays outside zone
if ain't shit else working

954
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,080
outside zone.
Robbie, you starting to see

955
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,360
stuff with Daniels this year
where it's like there's the

956
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,640
bread and butter right there.
If they run that play, it's

957
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,560
going to be positive.
Brian with you.

958
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,480
It's probably a little inside
trap with Quentin Nelson and

959
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,520
Frickin Taylor following them up
in the hole.

960
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,280
It should be.
But it we sit here and it's

961
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,720
there's no bread and butter in
the bread and butter that we saw

962
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:32,200
so much last year.
Some of the RPO's?

963
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,600
Have we thrown an RPO slant any
this year?

964
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,760
It's I've seen a few.
It's been mixed in there, but it

965
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,080
it not to the frequency that it.
Was last.

966
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:42,600
Year, all right.
Sorry.

967
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:48,640
I'd say just RPO in general has
been a lot less frequently

968
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,840
deployed in the offense this
year for one reason or another.

969
00:55:54,360 --> 00:56:00,600
I think we've seen we've, we've,
we've seen some of the, the zone

970
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,120
read elements that we saw, you
know, towards the back half of

971
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,480
the last year.
I think the thing that changed

972
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,880
the most is that, you know, when
it comes to the drop backs, I

973
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:14,760
mean, it's it's very much pocket
focused or at least primarily

974
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,480
pocket focused.
And whether that's an emphasis

975
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,760
by Bowen to try to, you know,
round out Kyron's skill set,

976
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:28,280
whether that's just an emphasis
of the offense to give them more

977
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,840
whole field reads or more
dynamic reads from the

978
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,080
quarterback position.
And instead of cutting the field

979
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,440
in half like you kind of do with
the rollouts.

980
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,080
I don't know what the what the
the thought process is, but at

981
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,320
some point you got to understand
who your personnel is and what

982
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,320
they do well and if.
You're not.

983
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,120
If you're not leaning on those
things, you're doing a

984
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,120
disservice to that personnel.
Yeah, but that's kind of a

985
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,000
that's a little bit of a old way
of thinking right now.

986
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,760
You know, I got to get I got to
Polish him up in the pocket,

987
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,640
things like that, get him ready
for the NFL game, that kind of

988
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,440
thing.
The NFL games evolving to to

989
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,240
what he's good at.
It's evolving to those kinds of

990
00:57:08,240 --> 00:57:10,800
things.
So why why sit there and try to

991
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:15,600
focus so much on the polished
pocket passing when so many of

992
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,640
the NFL teams are working
towards not using as much of

993
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,000
that?
I mean, of course you still got

994
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,480
some that are going to use it.
I mean, it is what it is.

995
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,920
But you know, you've you've got
them.

996
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,120
Lamar Jackson's Jayden Daniels,
the you know, the Anthony

997
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,040
Richardson when he can not be
tired enough to play.

998
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:42,320
And I'm honestly say the minute
he tapped his own helmet and

999
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,960
took yourself out of the game, I
dropped him for my fantasy team.

1000
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:51,840
He was behind my Holmes anyway.
But I mean that just those kinds

1001
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,400
of things.
I mean showcase what he's got.

1002
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,800
I mean, if he, if he can play in
the pocket and do those things,

1003
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,760
he'll show it when they need him
to.

1004
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,240
He can work on those things.
But you can't.

1005
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,960
You can't let that be the
detriment of the team that's

1006
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,960
trying to Polish that one player
for something like that.

1007
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,320
And I would hope that's not what
they're doing, but.

1008
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,080
I would not either.
You can't take the biggest

1009
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,760
strength of what Karen Drone was
last year and try to put that in

1010
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,040
a box.
Yeah, because it wasn't that.

1011
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,760
It wasn't that and so.
You know, I think also like it's

1012
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:29,080
it's the confidence piece of it
too, because you know, I'll

1013
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,480
throw the comment up here.
Where is it here?

1014
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,440
Who's Oh yeah.
So let's talk about this right.

1015
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,880
So let's talk about this.
If y'all haven't noticed, and

1016
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,160
we've got now almost two whole
years, you know, pushing that at

1017
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,120
least of of watching Kyron play
football.

1018
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:55,720
When Kyron is a comfortable and
confident player, that spills

1019
00:58:55,720 --> 00:59:00,080
over into the type of output we
have week to week.

1020
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,760
You're able to get him
comfortable and feel like he's

1021
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,760
in the right flow of the game
early on.

1022
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:14,640
He is a lot more efficient as a
passer when he doesn't get into

1023
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:19,320
the flow of the game early on.
It is very, it's roller coaster

1024
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,800
it, it's very much play
dependent, it's very much scheme

1025
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,800
dependent.
It's not necessarily he's going

1026
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,560
out there and just crisp, crisp,
crisp.

1027
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,120
But when he is feeling it, when
he is confident, you get a whole

1028
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,600
lot more of that.
And I don't think we've done a

1029
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:40,040
good enough job early in games
getting Kyron comfortable in the

1030
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,120
offense where he plays with that
peak confidence level that he

1031
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,440
needs to be his best.
Yeah.

1032
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:49,480
Got you.
All right.

1033
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,360
I'm all I'm all flip away from
the offense because we can my

1034
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,240
line that.
But Robbie, you are a defensive

1035
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,840
coordinator.
You've coached defense mostly

1036
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,640
all of your 20, not 20.
Is it 20?

1037
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,560
Years 2021 years high school
football.

1038
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,680
Yeah, and.
We owe holy shit.

1039
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,640
Hey deep breath Robbie, you've
coached high school football 20

1040
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,360
years, but in in your opinion,
let's go to the defense because

1041
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,520
the defense is regressed as
well.

1042
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,560
If y'all want to know defensive
and offensive regressions, these

1043
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,000
teams both finished around the
50 mark last year in total

1044
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,480
offense total.
I always look total offense,

1045
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,880
total defense, not point score.
Because, you know, take a look

1046
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,040
at the Boston College game, they
were within a touchdown and had

1047
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:29,720
like 7 yards of offense and they
were within a touchdown.

1048
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,440
To me, the total offense, total
defense says I am consistently

1049
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,760
moving the ball or I'm
consistently not letting the

1050
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,560
ball be moved.
We're 83rd and 80.

1051
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,520
You take some of the luck out
of.

1052
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,200
Exactly.
You take the weird bounces.

1053
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,280
I always look at that.
You can't win a game with 500

1054
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:50,440
yards offense in three points.
It's fair, but if you.

1055
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:51,840
Have it.
Depends on what you want.

1056
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:53,920
It depends on what you want to
assess.

1057
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,720
And I get that and but I think
both of those are valid points

1058
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,240
depending on what you want to
assess.

1059
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,520
But if you want to assess can
you consistently move the ball

1060
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,080
and can you consistently stop
teams that are moving the ball,

1061
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,560
looking at yards is more
important than points.

1062
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,600
Can I ask a question Robin?
If you find 503, I want to see

1063
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,040
it.
I will watch that game beginning

1064
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,920
to end because that will be the
most impressive fuck up when

1065
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:16,720
somebody got inside the 15 yard
line.

1066
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,520
First, Steelers won a whole lot
of football games in the late

1067
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,520
90s, early 2000s around there,
with Jerome Bettis running for

1068
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:29,480
25 yards and three touchdowns
and winning games 21 to 14.

1069
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:31,880
Exactly.
It's crazy.

1070
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,800
It can be done, but let me ask
this.

1071
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:38,480
Let's go defense as the
defensive coordinator.

1072
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,560
Look through the lens, what has
been the most disappointing unit

1073
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,320
this year?
It obviously ain't the defensive

1074
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,360
line, so we can already take
that one out because you already

1075
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,560
said that they're probably the
best unit of the whole team.

1076
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:53,680
Yes, I have to say, I think it's
the linebackers.

1077
01:01:54,520 --> 01:02:00,040
I really do like you.
You had a you had a height guy

1078
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,320
coming in from in the inside
backer position coming with

1079
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,680
Brumfield.
And while I think he he's he's

1080
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:16,880
done fairly well, it hasn't been
it hasn't they haven't stood out

1081
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,720
at anything.
You know, they had their issues

1082
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,520
of, of making reads and filling
where they were supposed to

1083
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,880
against Vanderbilt in the first
game.

1084
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,600
They've done better against
downhill running teams, you

1085
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:34,880
know, coming in filling gaps,
but they're they're very

1086
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:42,560
athletic, very quick players,
but I don't see a legitimate

1087
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:47,080
hole filling monster linebacker
that's going to play hash to

1088
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:51,080
hash.
I I just don't feel like they

1089
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,280
have that play.
And we may be spoiled for years

1090
01:02:55,280 --> 01:03:00,240
of of Hollyfield and.
Vince all all.

1091
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,600
Through this one, because my
wife worked with the Matua

1092
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,800
Puaka.
You know, you don't have that

1093
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,680
kind of just downright nasty
linebacker.

1094
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,400
Well, you got to act sometimes.
But is it to you Robbie too in

1095
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:20,880
this case, even though if they
weren't the nasty feel like that

1096
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,240
you kind of me and you were kind
of talk about it too.

1097
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:28,760
Is they're at this stage at this
stage, it's three years.

1098
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,840
They're they're a lot of times
they're making plays because of

1099
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:37,400
athleticism, not because of, I
don't want to say been taught,

1100
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:40,400
but effectively been taught to
read the keys know exactly where

1101
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,800
to go.
Is that why maybe even more

1102
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,720
disappointed because it's not
like, OK, it's the first time

1103
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,120
you're trying to teach the kids
to do it.

1104
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,920
Yeah, I feel like the place that
they are making is because of

1105
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:55,040
their athleticism, not because
of the scheme and the the things

1106
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,080
that they're trying to do.
And that's what that bothers me

1107
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:02,520
more than anything.
OK, I don't know that the that

1108
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:06,640
the scheme is is there for what
we're going to run against.

1109
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:13,960
In some ways they're they're
very athletic and I think that

1110
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,480
makes up for a lot of things.
But that athleticism will take

1111
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,080
you out of position at times
too.

1112
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,720
You can over pursue things, you
can overrun things.

1113
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,560
We saw a lot of that early in
the year, linebackers

1114
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,760
overrunning things, getting
caught in washes, things cutting

1115
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,920
back behind them.
Vanderbilt took full advantage

1116
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:33,720
of a lot of those things in the
first game.

1117
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,120
And I mean, those kind of things
hurt.

1118
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,800
And I think, I think having that
linebacker that kind of

1119
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:47,200
consistently knows the
schematics and, and reads and

1120
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,160
keys and not just relying on his
athletic ability.

1121
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,200
I mean, bottom line there, we've
had some really good linebackers

1122
01:04:55,200 --> 01:05:01,320
that weren't the most athletic,
fastest sideline to sideline

1123
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,600
tight linebackers and they've
been very effective.

1124
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:11,160
So I mean that that's a big
thing I'll look at.

1125
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:16,040
Yeah, I agree with you.
And I mean, when we look at, you

1126
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,200
know, you talk, you talk about
the discipline piece of it, you

1127
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,560
know, we had a whole game
looking at the Rutgers game

1128
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,800
where they just ran that RPO
over and over and over and over

1129
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,080
and we just didn't have an
answer for it.

1130
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:35,800
So I mean it, it's been kind of
one of those very inconsistent

1131
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,280
performances from that group
overall.

1132
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:42,760
I mean, I think Woodson is for
still being a young player is

1133
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:44,920
he's a freshman, He's the most
talented.

1134
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,080
He's a red shirt freshman in.
That group, he's he's showing

1135
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,240
himself to have that capability
and I don't know if he's he has

1136
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,160
the capability to to play
inside.

1137
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:59,160
But yeah, I think I think he's
getting to a point where he's

1138
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:03,200
going to be the future at that
position for this unit.

1139
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:08,400
But we outside of that, we've
got guys that they can be

1140
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,560
disruptive, but they're not
consistent.

1141
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,400
And I think that's.
We're not disciplined.

1142
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,640
Exactly.
And it's not always just

1143
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:20,400
discipline, but it's, it's the
consistency the of play from,

1144
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,920
from these guys.
And it sometimes it ebbs and

1145
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,720
flows in terms of effort.
Sometimes it ebbs and flows of

1146
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:29,160
turn in terms of techniques.
Sometimes it ebbs and flows in

1147
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:33,560
terms of discipline There.
It's so it's, it's, it's

1148
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:38,000
something different every week.
And that's why it's hard to

1149
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:43,160
really get a gauge on what to
fix or what you think needs to

1150
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,840
be fixed because you're getting
kind of different information

1151
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,960
week to week.
And that's, that's a reflection

1152
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:54,600
of coaching because it's showing
that you're not, you're, you're

1153
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:58,800
chasing an answer instead of
going out there and breaking it

1154
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,600
down to the nuts and bolts and
building up that foundation that

1155
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,200
you need to.
You're chasing the adjustment

1156
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:09,160
rather than having a game plan
and a definite set idea.

1157
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:13,920
You're like.
You keep throwing the bubble gum

1158
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,480
on the leak.
Yeah, and now you got this one

1159
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:18,760
handled.
Now you got another one over

1160
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,080
here.
So you chewing another damn

1161
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,040
piece of bubble gum and throwing
it on that leak?

1162
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,520
You just got to get some damn
flex seal man.

1163
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:34,280
Like that?
Like that I, I think just with

1164
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,000
the linebackers, I think that
still it's that piece, that

1165
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,680
Brian Utah, it's consistency,
it's a we'll got.

1166
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,520
I'm going to put what Josh put
up here just a second ago.

1167
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,040
College linebackers will still
overrun plays.

1168
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,400
Yes.
They will still shoot the wrong

1169
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:55,840
gap, but the question is if it's
four out of every 10 times

1170
01:07:55,880 --> 01:08:00,280
versus one or two out of every
10 times, Because if it's four,

1171
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,440
you don't get burned.
And to me, that's where we are.

1172
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:07,160
We're at like it's four times
out of 10, not 2 or one time out

1173
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:08,960
of 10.
It's that it's what Brian just

1174
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,000
said.
It's consistency.

1175
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,480
We understand it's going to
happen.

1176
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,720
It's the Rutgers game when you
know the play they are running.

1177
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,600
First of all, as a coach, I'm
sure you have grabbed people by

1178
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,160
the mask and say stay with your
man.

1179
01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:28,319
I don't care what they are
doing, stay with your man.

1180
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:33,319
I haven't done that this week,
season here the last week, but.

1181
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,359
Well played.
Stay with your.

1182
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,080
But what if he's running this
way?

1183
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:42,800
I don't care.
But Mr. Young, there's got a

1184
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,920
point.
I mean, that's kind of what I

1185
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,439
was talking about with some of
these linebackers.

1186
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,960
You know, they're so caught up
in the fact that the, you know,

1187
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:57,080
the weak side backer can catch
the guy running the damn stretch

1188
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,279
on the strong side and running
down.

1189
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,080
But the minute that quarterback
pulls it while he's trying to

1190
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:06,760
chase that down and comes back
to where you just were, that

1191
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:11,279
athletic ability, that speed is
negated because you're not

1192
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:12,680
making reads.
You're not taking

1193
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,359
responsibilities for what's
there.

1194
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:18,600
You're too busy worrying about
being the athlete and I, and

1195
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:26,680
that's either not being taught
or it's a part where there's too

1196
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,120
much freedom being given to make
that decision.

1197
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,840
Yeah, Robbie, talk a little bit
about the kind of free flow

1198
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,240
linebacker techniques that
they're being taught and how

1199
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,120
that can kind of get you into
these problems.

1200
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:47,399
Like I looked at some of it when
when we were there at the thing

1201
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:56,240
and it's it's more of a of a
reading certain key game in,

1202
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:57,440
game out.
They're going to have different

1203
01:09:57,440 --> 01:10:00,000
keys, different teams are going
to give you different things.

1204
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,880
They're reading those keys and
looking at those things.

1205
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:09,200
But it's almost as though the
linebackers aren't necessarily

1206
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:13,720
specifically gap responsible.
And it's just following those

1207
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,880
keys and reading the keys and
attacking.

1208
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,640
And what's happening is they're
seeing these keys and people are

1209
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,200
starting to throw false keys at
them.

1210
01:10:23,480 --> 01:10:25,320
So they're they're doing certain
things.

1211
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:30,360
That's where those RPO's and the
the the zone reads and the

1212
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:31,680
things like that really hurt
you.

1213
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,320
When you start looking at a
certain key and it's flowing,

1214
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,440
they start using that key
against you.

1215
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:40,760
Yeah.
And I feel like I saw.

1216
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,120
It with we had we had some
double pullers in Clemson.

1217
01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:46,760
Yes.
And and they chased the pulls

1218
01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:49,800
and the and club Dick was going
going to the left and had a wide

1219
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,320
open fucking alley.
And that, that's part of that

1220
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,960
whole thing.
You know, you come back and it

1221
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:57,800
always comes back to, you know,
if you're going to if you're

1222
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,560
going to flow that way, then you
have to have a spy on the guy.

1223
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,280
They can they can come out to
back to hurt you exactly whether

1224
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,240
it be that quarterback or
whether it be a a counter back

1225
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,680
or something like that.
You have where your.

1226
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,800
Spy helps.
That's where your your backside

1227
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,680
edge setter is going to be like.
There's going to be guys that

1228
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,600
you're going to need to have
that backside contain

1229
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:23,000
responsibility if you're going
to flow that heavy to wherever

1230
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,000
those keys take you.
To to me at the high school

1231
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,960
level, when we're going to, when
we're going to flow that heavy

1232
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,840
with our linebackers and we're
going to we're going to fight to

1233
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:36,480
this particular key.
Then I use a lot more zone

1234
01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:40,840
coverage behind it because I
have other guys as DBS and

1235
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,960
safeties or somebody that can
come down and help if that's the

1236
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,560
case.
Well, it's really hard to to

1237
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,320
follow those keys so hard when
you're going to lock things up

1238
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:55,960
in man looks you, you have less
people because they're going to

1239
01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:59,720
be responsible for one person.
You don't have that security

1240
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,400
back in.
They're not looking at the

1241
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:02,360
backfield.
Yeah.

1242
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,000
Like if you, if you've ever
tried to run a defense, if

1243
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,560
you've ever tried to run against
an option offense and play man,

1244
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,960
it's it's of a gun because
they're going to line up a

1245
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,920
receiver and just running
straight down the field.

1246
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,720
DB has to go with him.
And now you don't have an, you

1247
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,400
don't have extra protection on
that age.

1248
01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:22,360
Everybody has to be exactly
right.

1249
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,360
And I think part of that is kind
of what they're running into as

1250
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:30,040
well with a lot of the man
schemes and stuff that they run

1251
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:31,920
and things.
Not saying that there are bad

1252
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:36,600
things, but you lose some of
that extra that added

1253
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,400
protection.
Like I like to set up a lot of

1254
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,640
my defensive stuff to where I
almost have a bonus guy in most

1255
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,440
situations.
So a guy that's not necessarily

1256
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:48,400
locked on the anything in
particular.

1257
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,480
And I try to put him to a place
where I know it's going to

1258
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:55,200
benefit me more than anything
else.

1259
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,200
And so I play a lot of zone
coverage.

1260
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,680
Now I get I have to understand
where my holes are when I do

1261
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:10,080
that and where we're vulnerable,
but I mean, I make my

1262
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,160
linebackers completely gap
responsible.

1263
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:18,720
Now, whether they are gap
responsible, but you know, given

1264
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:23,560
a gap responsibility because I
don't have those crazy athletic

1265
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,080
linebackers like they're dealing
with got you.

1266
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,880
And we still get caught up in in
flow of stuff even when we're

1267
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,760
gap responsible.
So I mean, it's, it is what it

1268
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:39,400
is, but I like something needs
to be adjusted there in some

1269
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,720
way.
If if you're going to keep free

1270
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,040
flowing that quickly in the
front, you better have some

1271
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,360
protection backside for it.
Let me ask you this question and

1272
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,960
this is, you know, some, some
for me, some for some for people

1273
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,880
listening and watching here.
The benefits, I think I think we

1274
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:59,040
understand that, you know, one
of the benefits of free flow is

1275
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:00,840
that you can be a little bit
more disruptive with your

1276
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,400
linebackers, right?
Yes.

1277
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:07,560
But what are some of the other
benefits of of being less

1278
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,600
explicitly gap responsible and
having a little bit more of a

1279
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:16,920
free flow with your linebackers?
Is it like for example is is it

1280
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:22,240
better adjustment when there's
like motion pre snap?

1281
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:31,720
Possibly a good possibility.
Like there's benefits and and

1282
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,200
there's pros and cons to each
one, to any of them, obviously.

1283
01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:43,440
But like you have to understand
what the group as a whole is

1284
01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:47,240
going to be able to provide.
And I know they get to, they get

1285
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:51,360
to pick their guys to fit into
what they want to do, where I

1286
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,080
kind of have to fit what I'm
going to do with the guys that I

1287
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:56,480
have.
Yeah.

1288
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,800
And the crazy thing is with a
staff is, you know, is

1289
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:07,280
relatively new as this crowd is,
they may not have all guys that

1290
01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:11,600
they can fit into their scheme
that they have to kind of adapt

1291
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,840
the scheme to the players that
they do have.

1292
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,120
Because believe it or not, even
it being in the third year,

1293
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,640
there's some positions out there
that these guys are coaching

1294
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,840
that they didn't recruit any of
those players.

1295
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,280
It's.
True.

1296
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:30,160
Definitely not from high school.
Definitely not from high school.

1297
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:35,440
But the, the, the free flowing
thing, it allows you to kind of

1298
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:40,960
to flex more and move more.
It allows the front to be able

1299
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,720
to move around with motions and
changing sides of the strength

1300
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,600
and things like that, because
then they don't have to shift to

1301
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,040
find their new gap and things
like that.

1302
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,640
It also allows you sometimes to
get more people to the point of

1303
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,640
contact as long as they're
reading the keys properly.

1304
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,240
It's when you read the keys
improperly and there's no one on

1305
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,680
the backside and the next thing
you know it's sometimes.

1306
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:06,880
It's not necessary.
Sometimes you read the key

1307
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,880
exactly the way you you're
supposed to, but the key was put

1308
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:14,480
there for a reason.
Is to take mind off of another

1309
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:16,680
area so that they can go back in
it.

1310
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,480
That that's the whole point of
his own right.

1311
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,120
It's a false key.
You said it earlier, it's a

1312
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,000
false key.
Back when Brian and I were

1313
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,520
playing, the way to do that was
called a counter.

1314
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:30,040
You know, you, you get the
lineman to step one way, you

1315
01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:32,640
step this way and then you pull
2 back to the other side, you

1316
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,360
bring him back.
OK, that was the counter.

1317
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,600
Oh, now you got the zone where
you send the guy and you pull a

1318
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,280
guy out there in front of him
and then you bring this H back

1319
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,240
in and lead up here and have
your quarterback follow it on

1320
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,560
the backside.
So when you get that free

1321
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:52,280
flowing linebacker chasing the
pool there, there's nobody

1322
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,000
there.
There's one guy left over there.

1323
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,800
He's a, you know, the backside
backer or the safety coming down

1324
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,600
or something and then he's
getting ISO from that H back and

1325
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,520
the quarterbacks pulling around
behind it and.

1326
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,880
Then and then once they think
they figure that out, you mix

1327
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,880
them some split zone and and and
fuck with them a little bit more

1328
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,600
with with their gaps.
All right, let's move on.

1329
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,680
Robbie got a few more things I
want to hit with you here.

1330
01:17:15,680 --> 01:17:18,840
I want to talk about game
management next, because that is

1331
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,680
a point of contention amongst
the hokey community right now.

1332
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,320
I'm going to ask you this first
so we can we we know where you

1333
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,080
stand.
You're part of a high school

1334
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,840
staff, yes.
Are you, do you have any

1335
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:34,320
responsibilities of game
management from your role?

1336
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:42,040
Yes, which is so we all know.
Well, I am the defensive

1337
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:47,720
coordinator and I, I have, I
have pretty much free range to,

1338
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:53,880
to operate as I need to on the
defensive side, you know, as far

1339
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:58,760
as making the decisions of what
to do when and, and when to

1340
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:01,000
blitz.
And you know, I have that kind

1341
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:04,800
of autonomy for those things.
The head coach that I work for,

1342
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:11,800
we've been coaching together for
Jesus 1617 years, something like

1343
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,760
that.
We there's a lot of times in

1344
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,920
football games, the two of us
know what each other are

1345
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,320
thinking.
He knows when I'm going to blitz

1346
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,000
certain things.
He knows when I'm going to

1347
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,560
attack certain things.
I know when he's going to run

1348
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:28,280
certain plays on offense.
And it's just kind of a, you

1349
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,200
know, we have, we have that
work.

1350
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:36,240
We're on that same page.
And the good part is we ain't

1351
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:42,080
game situations Defensively.
I get a little hard headed and

1352
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,360
things at times there.
There's been times where I was

1353
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,480
talking about having the ability
to call a time out.

1354
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:51,360
There's times he calls a time
out while we're on defense

1355
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:53,480
because he looks at me, he's
like, hey, you need a time out.

1356
01:18:53,480 --> 01:18:56,200
And I'm like, no, no, these guys
got to figure out what the hell

1357
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,800
is going on and and nut up and
fix it.

1358
01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:01,120
And he goes, well, we're going
to call a time out and you're

1359
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:06,480
going to tell him how to fix it.
I mean those kinds of things,

1360
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:14,600
but there's there's a lot less
thought process.

1361
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,040
Well, I don't want to say it
that way.

1362
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,640
I was going to say there's a lot
less thought process in the game

1363
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,080
management part on defense, but
there's not.

1364
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:25,080
I mean, you got the the object
of it is tackle a man with the

1365
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:26,480
ball, keep him in front of the
states.

1366
01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,520
It comes down to true.
There's a lot more game

1367
01:19:30,520 --> 01:19:32,320
management to it on the
offensive side all.

1368
01:19:33,480 --> 01:19:35,000
Right.
Do you have a responsibility on

1369
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:39,320
that side of the ball?
I don't know that I would say I

1370
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:46,320
have responsibility as much as I
am looked at as somebody that I

1371
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:51,040
can give sound advice and I know
particular situations and what

1372
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,800
statistically should be the best
call in certain situations.

1373
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,280
All right.
So, so hold on, does Dave buzz

1374
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:01,520
you when it's 4th and three from
the 50 yard line, you're down to

1375
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:02,840
points middle of the third
quarter?

1376
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,160
Yeah, he'll ask.
And what do you think?

1377
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:08,760
OK, what?
What?

1378
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:13,040
What should we do right here?
What's 4th and 3:50 What's there

1379
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:17,680
we go I'm I'm gonna go here we
go 4th and 345 yard line.

1380
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:23,560
You're down to points 2119 10
minutes left in the game.

1381
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:24,760
So you got a little bit of game
left.

1382
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,360
What do you do?
What what is first of all, I

1383
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,960
know there's the sheet, but you
said y'all have y'all's own

1384
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,320
sheet, right?
Like there's the sheet and then

1385
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,720
there's your own sheet.
Statistically, statistically

1386
01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,880
with 10 minutes left, you're
you're in the plus 8 minute

1387
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,040
mark.
Yeah, the the right idea is that

1388
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,440
you're only down to points.
You don't have a field goal

1389
01:20:44,440 --> 01:20:47,000
kicker that can kick it from the
45 yard line because that's a

1390
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,760
5253 yard field goal.
Something like.

1391
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,640
That high school, we don't have
that guy.

1392
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:55,520
Some colleges you don't have
that guy.

1393
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,360
Let's just face it, because
that'll give you the lead.

1394
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:02,120
You get a field goal.
Statistically, it says you

1395
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,920
should probably punt.
Try to pin them inside the 10

1396
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:10,080
inside the five, which you can
do in in many situations in

1397
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,720
college game and and play it
out.

1398
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,160
You got to trust your defense in
that situation.

1399
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,480
Make a stop there, not allow
them.

1400
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,160
It's hard to run 10 minutes off
of a clock.

1401
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:24,640
Unless you army Chelsea that
drive, by the way.

1402
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,560
Yeah.
Yeah.

1403
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,840
Did did that make you cringe the
different first?

1404
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,400
I know.
Did that make you cringe, The

1405
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:32,920
defensive coordinator saying
that?

1406
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,480
It could, yes.
It's very well.

1407
01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:37,320
Can we?
Got four more?

1408
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,840
Yards, it's it's going to tell
you you should go for it.

1409
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,280
I mean, you should, you should
go ahead and stop it.

1410
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,520
You should punt it and and do
everything you can defensively

1411
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,000
because if you could pin them
inside the five, you can get

1412
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:53,920
pressure, especially in Virginia
Techs way right now get

1413
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,840
pressure.
You might can get a safety out

1414
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,120
of it.
You might can get them to have

1415
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:02,920
to punt from in the end zone and
then who knows what can happen

1416
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:09,960
now us at a high school level,
we we crossed the 50.

1417
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:11,200
We're probably going for it
there you.

1418
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,000
Go.
And and what our thought process

1419
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,360
is, OK, we only need 3 yards,
we're going to go for it.

1420
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,760
So we're going to, we're going
to have our 5 yard hitch routes,

1421
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:26,680
we're going to have our middle
screen like a hot screen from

1422
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,840
the back coming out, try to drop
it underneath and and get what

1423
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:32,360
we can.
If they're blitzing, we should

1424
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,880
be able to drop it behind the
blitzing backer, things like

1425
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,080
that.
Well, in high school you always

1426
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:42,080
have that added part of, OK, my
hitch is covered.

1427
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,120
My hot route, that one backer
didn't blitz, he's sitting in

1428
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,880
the middle on it.
OK, I can chunk it high and

1429
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:54,520
float it 30 yards and it's
essentially a punt because 8 out

1430
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,800
of 10 high school safeties, in
their mind, I'm catching an

1431
01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,600
interception, I'm catching this
basket.

1432
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,280
He catches the ball to four or
five yard line and the receiver

1433
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:06,480
that's going down there, his
intention is not to go catch the

1434
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:08,480
ball for a huge ass Hail Mary
touchdown.

1435
01:23:08,480 --> 01:23:10,920
This, that guy catches it.
I got to tackle him as quickly

1436
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:16,880
as possible, you know, get that
benefit in college.

1437
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:20,760
Most of those DBS are going, I
knock this down, that ball goes

1438
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,160
back up there in high school.
These kids are going

1439
01:23:24,440 --> 01:23:27,760
interception, interception and
they're going to catch it.

1440
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,920
And some of them might fall down
trying to take off running

1441
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,120
before they get their feet on
the ground.

1442
01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:39,680
I speak from experience.
I mean, those situations are

1443
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:45,320
there's always a statistically
expected way to do it and

1444
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,440
they're they people put together
sheets and all of this of plus

1445
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:58,680
10 minutes under 8 minutes.
Oh Lord, that's awesome.

1446
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:02,440
We don't play South Stokes
anymore but I'd love to.

1447
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,400
Got me thrown all off all.
Right, there's what we do.

1448
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,600
But we, we've always, when you
got those sheets and you got all

1449
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:17,520
of those things and I mean, you
could put together binders and

1450
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:22,000
binders of situational things,
but can you look through that

1451
01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:26,240
binder in 25 to 40 seconds that
you get on the sideline to make

1452
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,800
a decision?
Now you're making a decision

1453
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,760
from here and you're going with,
you know, you have every coach

1454
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,760
that's ever put it together, a
game plan for a week has

1455
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,840
situational things that they're
expecting that could happen and

1456
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,360
that you have to be prepared to
do.

1457
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:44,760
And inevitably, every game you
get into, all of those

1458
01:24:44,760 --> 01:24:47,200
situational things that you
practiced all week aren't going

1459
01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:49,080
to come up.
And the ones you didn't practice

1460
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:51,840
with.
But Rob, you were telling me

1461
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:56,000
with that though, you said you
feel like y'all have the index

1462
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,680
card, right?
You have cards that basically

1463
01:24:59,960 --> 01:25:03,440
you say, you say the one reason
Dave comes to you every time is

1464
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:05,440
pretty much you got it
memorized.

1465
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:13,320
The time out, yeah, we'll take a
time out kind of thing is, is in

1466
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:17,840
my head, the two point
conversion versus PAT is always

1467
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:24,760
in my mind and the punt versus
go for it to an extent is in

1468
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:29,200
there.
Have the the idea of you know

1469
01:25:29,480 --> 01:25:31,960
what statistically is said
should be done in those

1470
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,920
situations.
Now do we follow those not all

1471
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:38,120
of them.
The ones that we follow the most

1472
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,400
is probably the PAT versus 2
point.

1473
01:25:42,440 --> 01:25:46,920
I mean, if, if you're, if you
can tie it with the PAT, you

1474
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,600
kick the PAT, but if the PAT is
still going to leave you down by

1475
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:55,400
1, go for two.
Because if you, you go for 2:00

1476
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,080
and you miss it, now you're down
by two.

1477
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:01,680
The field goal still gets it.
I mean, those, those things are

1478
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,000
just, you know, those little
things.

1479
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,280
But what it comes down to, man,
you can, you can look at all of

1480
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,960
those things you want to, you
can cover all of those different

1481
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,840
cards and books and statistics
and all of that.

1482
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:19,120
Bottom line is when when you
make a decision, you have to

1483
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:24,200
stand behind it and you can make
that decision and people would

1484
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,080
go, oh, he made this decision.
He's got balls.

1485
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:32,680
And when it goes right rocks.
It's because you were, you were

1486
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:36,680
and you.
But when it goes wrong, you're

1487
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,800
the dumbest son of a gun.
It's ever made that decision and

1488
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,520
there was no way you could be
right.

1489
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,440
So Robbie, let's let's, let's
talk about one of those, then

1490
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:49,800
let's talk you.
Watched it, I told you it's

1491
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:50,880
coming.
Yeah.

1492
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,600
If if, if you're a coach and you
if you watch the, you watch the

1493
01:26:55,600 --> 01:27:00,800
team run out the clock with 29
seconds left and a field goal

1494
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,560
kicker that's good for 50 plus
with three timeouts in their

1495
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:07,280
pocket.
What do you say 31 points that

1496
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:11,280
has scored 31 points, Not that
it scored three or six, that it

1497
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:15,160
scored 31 points.
You need 40 to 45 yards to get

1498
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,160
into your your kickers field
goal range and you got 29

1499
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:21,320
seconds three time outs.
And you, you, you take those

1500
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,560
time outs and you flush them
down the toilet along with that

1501
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,320
29 seconds to play for overtime
with your, with your defense

1502
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,520
that has been consistently
getting gashed the entirety of

1503
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:34,360
the second.
Half it's AI know exactly what

1504
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,520
you talk about it it it comes
down to coach Woh and I talked

1505
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:41,120
about it some yesterday and we
because I talked to Curtis about

1506
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,200
this, then him and I talked
about it a little bit yesterday.

1507
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,360
It it kind of comes to a fear
for us.

1508
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,880
It comes to a feel of the game,
like you just said, you had

1509
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,280
moments where you were getting
gashed.

1510
01:27:51,280 --> 01:27:54,520
Where is the momentum sitting?
You got to think like that.

1511
01:27:55,680 --> 01:28:00,480
Like you go out and you, you've
got 30 seconds and you got 3

1512
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:04,320
timeouts, OK, And you mind it,
it's plenty of time to get what

1513
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,800
you need to.
OK, You, you run the ball, you

1514
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:11,800
gain 4-5 and the clock's
running.

1515
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,200
You call that timeout, OK, you
stopped the clock.

1516
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,960
You're down to, you know, 24
seconds now.

1517
01:28:18,440 --> 01:28:24,040
Well, you're second and six.
It's one of those kind of in

1518
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:25,880
between.
Do you run the ball again using

1519
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,440
all the time out?
Maybe you get another six or

1520
01:28:28,440 --> 01:28:30,080
seven.
Maybe you break a bigger run.

1521
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:35,040
Maybe they stop you for a loss.
You throw something short,

1522
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,960
intermediate, somewhere around
there.

1523
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,360
You get to pick up the first
down clock stops.

1524
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:43,960
You get up, you get on it, you
throw an incomplete pass, you

1525
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:45,920
lost.
You got 3 seconds off the clock,

1526
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,920
the clock stops.
Now you're 3rd and 6th.

1527
01:28:50,440 --> 01:28:54,000
Now in just about everybody's
mind, you have to throw it.

1528
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,440
So then you throw another
incomplete.

1529
01:28:57,440 --> 01:29:01,520
The pass gets broken up by a
good play, so now it's 4th down

1530
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,640
with 21 seconds left.
What do you do?

1531
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:10,960
So I mean, it's kind of a feel
for that, you know, hit if they

1532
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:15,160
got in that situation.
What do you do with that 4th and

1533
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,240
6th?
You punt it and give them a

1534
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:19,960
chance with those 20 seconds.
There's a good chance you're

1535
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,200
going to kick it into the end
zone.

1536
01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:25,560
You know there's a chance for
that.

1537
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:33,120
Damn, who was it years ago?
Deshawn Jackson and same kind of

1538
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,800
situation come up with the
Eagles and the Giants years ago.

1539
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:41,080
They punted 1 to Deshawn Jackson
late like that and he took it

1540
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,960
all the way back to the house
just because they didn't have

1541
01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:45,560
any other option.
They were trying to get in field

1542
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,440
goal range to to try to win the
game.

1543
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,520
It was tied.
They kicked it.

1544
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,720
Matt Dodge.
The reason I know that he was

1545
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:56,640
from East Carolina University
where I was there because people

1546
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:58,040
gave him hell when that
happened.

1547
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,360
He kicked it to Deshawn Jackson.
Deshawn Jackson took it back for

1548
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:05,480
the touchdown.
They lost the game on on what

1549
01:30:05,480 --> 01:30:07,600
everybody thought was a was a no
brainer.

1550
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,000
Yeah, you keep going.
You take all three timeouts.

1551
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,800
You do this, but hell, then you
sit there, you got 2 timeouts

1552
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,560
left, There's 21 seconds left.
You threw 2 incomplete passes.

1553
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:19,880
Now you got to use the timeouts
on defense.

1554
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,600
If you get that opportunity,
it's another one of those

1555
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:26,360
situations.
But let me ask this.

1556
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,440
Rob, he made a call and it was
the worst call he possibly could

1557
01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:34,520
have made because it didn't work
out in his favor had he had they

1558
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:36,920
went into overtime, went right
down the field and scored and

1559
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:40,760
then intercepted the first play
on defense and never going to

1560
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:44,320
question of the call he made
there at the end with the 29

1561
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:46,160
seconds left.
Hey, Robbie, let me ask you this

1562
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:51,080
though, because I think, you
know, I think one of the things

1563
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:55,320
that was kind of been levied at
this staff is that they

1564
01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,640
sometimes are a little too too
conservative.

1565
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:05,960
And when I when I look at
something like this, and I'm not

1566
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:09,160
even going to say conservative,
but I say I'll, I'll say more.

1567
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,960
It feels like they're playing a
lot not to lose the game instead

1568
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,400
of trying to go out there and
win the game in the scenario

1569
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,760
you're saying there, you say,
you know, you know, if if it

1570
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:21,080
works out, it's great.
If it doesn't, it doesn't.

1571
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:27,280
I think from a fan perspective,
you can live with going out in a

1572
01:31:27,280 --> 01:31:32,280
blaze of glory a little bit more
than you can sitting on it, and

1573
01:31:32,280 --> 01:31:36,280
then take taking your nuts into
the overtime knowing that your

1574
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:37,600
defense is gassed.
And gassed.

1575
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:39,920
But hold on.
Let me ask this, Robbie, and it

1576
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,320
goes back to what you said with
what woes did to you a couple

1577
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:47,240
times there.
First of all, Tech had the 3124

1578
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:52,640
lead five and a half 5:15 left.
They gassed them a couple times.

1579
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:56,720
If you look at that drive, they
gassed them quick.

1580
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:00,240
Should Brent Pry had stood up
and went over and I'm calling

1581
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,920
the time out.
Everybody get over here and what

1582
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:06,160
you just said listen, they have
to get it in the end zone.

1583
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,360
They cannot kick a field goal.
They are going to go for it on

1584
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:12,480
4th down.
But he continued to let it play

1585
01:32:12,480 --> 01:32:13,840
out.
And I know you tell us that just

1586
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,320
a while ago we gonna figure it
out on the field, but it isn't

1587
01:32:17,320 --> 01:32:20,440
the head coach.
It's like especially and again

1588
01:32:20,440 --> 01:32:23,960
this goes back to where he was
thinking we're going to win this

1589
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:26,400
game on defense.
I'm going to save my time.

1590
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:30,160
I don't need my time outs not
thinking, well, what if they

1591
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:31,680
score?
And I know you can't have that

1592
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:34,160
mentality and all that, I think,
but you.

1593
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,120
If you're saving your time outs
when you're on defense, you got

1594
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:39,080
to fucking use them on offense.
It's true.

1595
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,560
You can't take three time outs
into overtime.

1596
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,720
No, you can't, but the the the
way I would have seen that one,

1597
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:48,040
bro, you bro, you talk about
running the ball, you need

1598
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:52,280
effectively 40 yards.
Yeah, you need 40 yards, 29

1599
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:56,360
seconds if you are, if you are
worried about what's going to

1600
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:59,520
happen Slee, I'm trying.
I'm pulling up the stats from

1601
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,360
that game and I can't remember,
sorry.

1602
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:04,000
It's just what happens to me as
you get old folks.

1603
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:10,840
Slee that game had not thrown a
pick, was 16 to 24, was

1604
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:15,320
averaging 9 yards pass.
I sit here and say with 29

1605
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:19,680
seconds, the 1st place should be
your big go for the big play

1606
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:22,560
because if your thought is,
well, let's play for overtime,

1607
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,400
your first play, if you go big
play, if you don't hit it, you

1608
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:28,280
probably waste, what, 6-7
seconds or 22 seconds left?

1609
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:30,720
Mike, put it up here.
They did have some time outs

1610
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:32,520
left.
But if you weigh 6 of you down

1611
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,240
to 22, all right, we did hit it.
We're going to run the ball or

1612
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:37,960
kneel the ball 3 * 2 times.
Excuse me.

1613
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:39,880
And if they call time out, time
out.

1614
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,000
Well, if you run the ball twice,
it's four to five seconds, 4 to

1615
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,520
5 seconds.
They got 12 seconds.

1616
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:46,880
The Meadow miracle in the
Meadowlands can happen.

1617
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:51,520
It's carrier don't it probably
would have happened when I but

1618
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:56,880
you sit here and it's like it
was basically it wasn't he.

1619
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:00,120
He didn't help his defense out
any by not calling the time out,

1620
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,240
then getting gashed and then to
Brian's point where you sat on

1621
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:05,240
him and you didn't do any damn
thing with them.

1622
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:07,680
There's no consistency with
that.

1623
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,800
And I think that is as a fan,
it's frustrating because you sit

1624
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:12,320
here.
It's like, oh, because when he

1625
01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:15,000
didn't call the time out, I was
walking the wooden iron when

1626
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,960
that drive happened.
Oh, we didn't call the time out.

1627
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,200
Sorry.
We got 3 timeouts.

1628
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:22,480
We got 30 seconds in in in the
world today.

1629
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:25,280
That's like having a minute and
a half because you got 3

1630
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,600
timeouts and as soon as that
ball is called and you go down,

1631
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:29,760
not count if you go out of
bounds.

1632
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:31,680
Yeah, not count.
If you go out of bounds, the

1633
01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:36,840
clock still stops on a.
First down, it was like he, he

1634
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:41,920
thought it one way and then
didn't do it where if he had

1635
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:44,360
just called the timeouts while
they were driving trying to get

1636
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:46,920
his defense sorted.
Well, first of all, if you call

1637
01:34:46,920 --> 01:34:50,040
3 timeouts and you just do the
math, you're sitting probably

1638
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:53,000
over here with about a minute
and a half minute, 45 seconds

1639
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:54,800
left.
Yeah, right.

1640
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,480
And then you can say playbooks,
while I don't go attack, we have

1641
01:34:57,480 --> 01:35:00,760
no timeouts, but we need some
first downs, all stops.

1642
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:05,400
I can, I can tell you from a
defensive standpoint of a little

1643
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,120
bit better of what his thought
process was and not taking the

1644
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:09,600
time out where they were getting
gashed.

1645
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:13,400
It's because they were moving
with tempo, they were moving

1646
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:17,000
quicker and most teams limit
what they're going to do in that

1647
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,400
tempo and you have a pretty good
idea going in and what they're

1648
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,080
going to do and you're trying to
take advantage of it.

1649
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:25,240
If they call a time out, it
gives them an opportunity to go

1650
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:29,600
to the sideline and set up two
to three plays that go, OK, when

1651
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,360
they come out and line up this
way, we're going to run this

1652
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:35,080
because it's going to take
advantage of a certain thing.

1653
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,760
We're going to run this.
If they line up this way, it

1654
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,920
takes advantage of a certain
thing and it gives them

1655
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,560
statistically, it gives them
more of an opportunity to

1656
01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:49,240
produce a big play and gash you
even more, rather than keeping

1657
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:53,520
them at that tempo and trying to
take away the one to two things

1658
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:54,640
you know that they're going to
do.

1659
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:58,920
The the idea being they're
seeing success in this, that's

1660
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,600
why they're going tempo.
But we feel from a personnel

1661
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:05,360
standpoint, we at least have the
right personnel on the field

1662
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:08,560
right now.
If we can just nut up a little

1663
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:12,800
bit, get get some stops, it
limits the the the different

1664
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,360
variety of ways that they can
attack the defense.

1665
01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:17,880
They can't.
They can't necessarily take any

1666
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,360
more advantage of the personnel
we have on the field right now

1667
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:23,560
than the other.
Yard and it's a, it's a man,

1668
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:24,720
it's a, it's a person.
Very.

1669
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:26,920
It's a Jimmy's and Joe's type of
thing.

1670
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,160
Yeah.
In in my mind, yeah.

1671
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,760
I get that.
All right, so, so we're going,

1672
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,400
we're going to wrap this up
because we still got big

1673
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:36,680
screeners do and we're going to
go 2 hours tonight, but that's

1674
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,960
not a shock with us 3 Robbie
real quick.

1675
01:36:40,480 --> 01:36:42,760
Hours and hours.
I got to go to work tomorrow.

1676
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,280
I do too, but we discussed it
last week and I want your

1677
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:51,520
opinion because we were talking
about obviously this staff, the

1678
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:55,800
the staff as it's comprised
right now it's 500I.

1679
01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:59,200
I think we all will say, as fans
of Virginia Tech, 500 is not

1680
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:03,000
acceptable.
How many?

1681
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:04,880
And if you want to name names,
you can.

1682
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,880
If you just want to write
positions, you can show it.

1683
01:37:08,240 --> 01:37:12,720
But how many staff changes do
you think has to be made in this

1684
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:15,560
offseason?
Because now it's three full

1685
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:18,360
years.
First year we can say you had no

1686
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:19,840
talent.
The last two years you've had

1687
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:24,720
some talented guys.
And right now, if they go, if

1688
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:29,840
they go perfect, if they go
perfect from here out, the

1689
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,520
combined record will be
thirteen.

1690
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:41,720
And I can't do math, 15 and 11,
which again, 15 and 11 is 7 1/2

1691
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:44,320
and 5 1/2 again, that that's not
looking the greatest.

1692
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:48,760
So you tell me what is your
opinion on this?

1693
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,080
If, if they can, if they win
these last two games and win.

1694
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:59,000
The bowl game.
Bowl game then it's going to be

1695
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:03,440
very unpopular.
My thought behind it I could I

1696
01:38:03,440 --> 01:38:11,160
could feasibly see and no real
changes being made and making an

1697
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:18,560
emphasis in certain things
finding somebody with more of

1698
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:23,760
that situational experience
those things to to kind of

1699
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:27,920
bolster a very inexperienced
staff when it comes to a lot of

1700
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:32,760
those things.
All right, how many years you

1701
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:36,600
take away coach prize years of
head coaching experience here at

1702
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,440
Virginia Tech.
How many years of head coaching

1703
01:38:38,440 --> 01:38:41,040
experience on that staff?
That's Sean Quinn with two.

1704
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:44,400
There is a total combined five
years of head coaching

1705
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:47,520
experience.
There is a total combined of

1706
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,480
offensive and.
And after Quinn's two at

1707
01:38:51,480 --> 01:38:53,200
Savannah State, what is Savannah
State?

1708
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,200
Savannah State.
After his two years at Savannah

1709
01:38:56,200 --> 01:39:01,040
State, the next closest one is
JC Price.

1710
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:03,440
With what, three games?
Two games?

1711
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:06,560
Whatever he was in three.
Three.

1712
01:39:06,640 --> 01:39:07,760
Yeah, that's right.
Three.

1713
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:12,400
OK, so so you win.
Best case scenario you what if

1714
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,000
it's six and seven?
They win one of the final 2,

1715
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:16,560
they get bowl eligible, losing
bowl game.

1716
01:39:17,200 --> 01:39:22,200
Then you've got to start looking
at, I mean, the essentials of

1717
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,880
football, why you not scoring
points and why are you giving up

1718
01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,600
points?
And those are going to fall to

1719
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:31,680
the heads of those two sides of
the ball.

1720
01:39:32,480 --> 01:39:39,200
And they, you know, it's
changing, changing scheme or, or

1721
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,960
figuring out what's going on or
it's changing in personnel.

1722
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:48,320
The thing you got to worry about
right now is, yeah, we've we've

1723
01:39:48,640 --> 01:39:51,160
talked about the great
recruiting classes and stuff

1724
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:54,440
they tried to put together.
Where are those?

1725
01:39:54,440 --> 01:39:55,720
Where are those things going to
go?

1726
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:59,720
If these guys are, there's great
recruits at the school right now

1727
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,280
that you really haven't seen
anything from them.

1728
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:06,240
How many of those guys are
going, We're not performing and

1729
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:10,680
I'm not playing.
At what point are they going to

1730
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:14,000
start looking other places?
What point are these recruits

1731
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:15,360
going to start changing their
mind?

1732
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:21,560
I mean, so you got to think
about that and it's.

1733
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:28,640
I look at my top thing right now
is if things don't pan out at

1734
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:34,040
the end of this game, I mean at
the end of this season, what has

1735
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:37,040
been the thing that is hurt the
most?

1736
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:41,920
And that's given up a lot of
points at the end of games,

1737
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,840
allowing those gashing plays and
allowing those points at the

1738
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:47,800
end.
That's when you've got to be

1739
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:51,560
able to put that foot down and
shut things down when you have a

1740
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,560
lead.
And I don't think they've been

1741
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,280
very effective at that.
And I think probably the first

1742
01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:02,040
one to go would be more of in
that in that situation that

1743
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:06,600
that's just my thought on it.
But you got to start scoring

1744
01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:11,440
some points or else, or else
Bowen's got to have some

1745
01:41:11,440 --> 01:41:16,040
question in it too.
Yep, I, I, I definitely think, I

1746
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:19,320
mean, looking at, you know, we
talked about this last week

1747
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:23,960
after Syracuse, we kind of did
an evaluation and I think I was

1748
01:41:23,960 --> 01:41:28,520
kind of on the on the border
with, with Bowen.

1749
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:36,040
I think I'm, I feel a lot less
confident in him after what I

1750
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:41,720
saw against Clemson because I
think on the whole I've seen

1751
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:47,400
progress from him this year and
I felt like everything I saw at

1752
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:52,200
Clemson was a step back.
Well, I saw progress from Games

1753
01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:54,840
5 to Clemson.
The first four games I saw

1754
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,800
regression.
I saw regression.

1755
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:03,040
I was, I was understanding in
that there was there was maybe a

1756
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:05,640
process in that that got us
there.

1757
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:09,440
But I think we're still we're
still doing some of the same

1758
01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:14,640
things that are problematic.
And again when when you don't

1759
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:17,200
give.
Your running backs or this one

1760
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:19,280
up?
You don't give your running back

1761
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:21,640
to the football, that's a
problem.

1762
01:42:22,280 --> 01:42:25,160
Strength and condition I would
say, I would say conditioning

1763
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,640
even more so.
And and I'm thinking in season

1764
01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,120
conditioning.
I'm not talking about what's

1765
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:34,800
going on in your phase one and
two.

1766
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:36,760
I'm talking about phase three
and four.

1767
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:40,720
How how are you conditioning
them just before the start of

1768
01:42:40,720 --> 01:42:44,400
the season and then camp and how
are you conditioning them in the

1769
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:46,480
season?
Yeah, with, with the injuries

1770
01:42:46,480 --> 01:42:48,680
and stuff that they've dealt
with you, you've got to start

1771
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:52,440
looking at some of those things.
But like I said earlier, we're

1772
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:54,720
talking with with techie about
this thing.

1773
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:59,400
You know, you can look at all
this situational stuff and, and

1774
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:02,120
people can complain and, and
have their opinions about all

1775
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:05,840
those situations.
The head coach has to make

1776
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,560
decisions based on what he
thinks is going to be best for

1777
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:12,520
that team.
No fans ever been fired because

1778
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:14,560
it's true.
You can make the right decision.

1779
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:19,120
The damn head coach is when it
comes down, when it comes down

1780
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:24,840
to this staff, OK, you can go
position by position and think,

1781
01:43:24,840 --> 01:43:27,800
OK, well, this person in this
position needs to be replaced.

1782
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:32,560
You know, Cheetah needs to be
replaced as ADB coach or, or

1783
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:36,080
crook needs to be replaced as an
online coach or whatever.

1784
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:38,440
They're going to go to the
coordinators because if the

1785
01:43:38,440 --> 01:43:41,400
coordinators replaced, they
might want to change all of

1786
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:47,000
those position coaches.
And I mean, I think that's where

1787
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:48,400
it's going to fall.
It's going to fall in that

1788
01:43:48,400 --> 01:43:50,520
three.
That's going to fall in the head

1789
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:55,440
coach and the two coordinators.
And I don't think three years

1790
01:43:55,440 --> 01:44:01,640
in, given Virginia Tech's track
record and, and like watching

1791
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:05,920
coaches develop and, and things
like that, Rod's not going

1792
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:09,040
anywhere.
No, I know, I know Tally doesn't

1793
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:10,720
agree with me.
Tally didn't like to hear it.

1794
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:12,040
He said something about it last
week.

1795
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,800
Frank Beamer didn't have a whole
lot better record 3 or 4 or five

1796
01:44:16,800 --> 01:44:19,720
years into his his run at
Virginia Tech either.

1797
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,560
And you got to give them time to
develop and to bring things in.

1798
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:27,760
And everybody talks about it's
different game now with NIL and

1799
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,160
all of this and all that.
You have to throw that out the

1800
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:33,440
window because not every team
out there is going to be able to

1801
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:38,440
bring, you know, the $5,000,000
quarterbacks and the, you know,

1802
01:44:38,440 --> 01:44:43,240
elite receivers and all that
stuff through NIL and, and.

1803
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:45,280
Transport.
Wars and all of that.

1804
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,640
Can I say this?
Look at how much money Florida

1805
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:50,920
State spent.
They are one in nine through the

1806
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:52,280
point.
You still have to know how to

1807
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,160
coach football.
You have to still how to know,

1808
01:44:54,160 --> 01:44:56,560
build, build culture.
You have to build cohesion.

1809
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:00,200
People have to play together.
It is a game of 11 people moving

1810
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,480
at once.
I know they, I know we hate the

1811
01:45:02,480 --> 01:45:05,480
guy collectively, but but look
at what's going on at Pitt right

1812
01:45:05,480 --> 01:45:06,480
now.
Yeah.

1813
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,680
And they have, they have not
even in the ballpark nil what

1814
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:11,920
we're working with.
Nope.

1815
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:13,160
None.
Not even.

1816
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,960
Close.
Much worse facilities, much less

1817
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:19,920
fan support and they're they're
out there getting it done so.

1818
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,680
That he can build that community
base, he can build the fan base,

1819
01:45:26,080 --> 01:45:31,960
he can build the recruit base.
It's just a matter of the the

1820
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:35,520
product catching up with what.
He's get, can we say?

1821
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:40,840
Experience on the field in the
decision making roles is so

1822
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:45,360
behind where it where it could
be, yeah, when everything else

1823
01:45:45,360 --> 01:45:48,760
is probably a step above where
you might want it.

1824
01:45:49,000 --> 01:45:53,200
I think Marv and I think Bowen
are very smart in terms of

1825
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:57,960
scheme, in terms of drawing up
plays, in terms of things like

1826
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,360
that.
I don't think that they're very

1827
01:46:00,600 --> 01:46:05,200
as good as we want them to be in
those game day situational

1828
01:46:05,640 --> 01:46:08,360
calls.
And we know you're you're

1829
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:13,480
pairing that with pride that has
very limited experience calling

1830
01:46:13,480 --> 01:46:17,720
everything on game day.
It's a bad situation where he

1831
01:46:17,720 --> 01:46:21,600
can't really lean on the two
guys that are most in tune at

1832
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:23,920
that game to say, hey, what
should we do here?

1833
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:25,920
Hey, what, what, what do you
think we should do here?

1834
01:46:26,440 --> 01:46:28,600
They can't make that call
because they haven't been in

1835
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:30,600
this position any longer than he
has.

1836
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,360
Neither one of those
coordinators have tremendous

1837
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,200
amount of experience.
None.

1838
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:37,760
You know, running programs like
that?

1839
01:46:38,280 --> 01:46:38,880
Nope.
Neither.

1840
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:41,680
But here's the thing, Bowen.
Bowen called one bowl game

1841
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,080
before he, you know, went down
to Jacksonville.

1842
01:46:44,480 --> 01:46:45,880
He was.
Called the Co OC.

1843
01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,480
He was pretty much, you know,
running practices, not calling

1844
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:50,240
plays on.
Or hadn't been any higher than

1845
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,480
the Co DC at at any point
otherwise, right?

1846
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,960
And it's probably similar
running practices and not on

1847
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:57,640
game day.
But this is what I'll say and

1848
01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:01,840
This is why I'm fine.
If Pride chooses to make

1849
01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:04,800
decisions, he's got to make
moves because you cannot be an

1850
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:06,120
average team.
Here we go.

1851
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:11,800
The amount of Joe's he's brought
in, your APR, your Gilliam's.

1852
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:17,120
Jay Lane Tootin knows people
feel like he's regressed this

1853
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:18,880
year.
But where Karen Drone is as a

1854
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:22,360
quarterback, look at the Joe's
he sold this program to.

1855
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:26,000
Yeah.
And I saw somebody put in about

1856
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,120
for when they being a better
game manager, but guess what?

1857
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:32,200
When he got when the Joes went
down, he went down.

1858
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,280
Yeah, cuz you've got to have
players that can play.

1859
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,920
You have to or you.
We're not kind of seeing the

1860
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:40,760
opposite right now, right you
are.

1861
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:46,440
We're seeing the Joes are kind
of carrying us when we don't

1862
01:47:46,480 --> 01:47:49,640
have the experience in those
situational places.

1863
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:53,400
We're not making the right calls
always on, on game day.

1864
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:57,320
The Joes are kind of keeping us,
you know, floating up here.

1865
01:47:58,080 --> 01:47:59,960
We kind of had the opposite
towards the end of the Fuente

1866
01:47:59,960 --> 01:48:04,840
area where you know the, I think
from a preparation standpoint,

1867
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:08,800
Fuente did a very good job.
I still think that Cornelson was

1868
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:13,760
awful in situational calls, but
I think they did a very good job

1869
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:17,320
in the week to week preparation
for an opponent.

1870
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:19,960
They knew schematics and then
you had to manage your game.

1871
01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:23,360
Yeah.
And, and, and that's where they

1872
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:25,920
had a little bit of a leg up,
but where they, you know, they,

1873
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:30,120
they didn't necessarily have the
ability to bring in a culture

1874
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:34,480
and the ability to deploy,
recruit and recruit and deploy

1875
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:36,600
weapons week to week.
So.

1876
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:37,880
They did not know how to
recruit.

1877
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:39,760
Maybe we just.
I don't, I don't know if that

1878
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:42,480
changes the ceiling necessarily
of this team.

1879
01:48:42,480 --> 01:48:45,320
I think, I think it definitely
raises the potential ceiling

1880
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:49,080
because if, oh God, if you
figure out some of those things,

1881
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:54,840
it's a lot easier for I think
coaches to get better than it is

1882
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:59,240
for average players to
completely level up their game.

1883
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:01,960
And because if you, because you
have to, you still have to be a

1884
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,280
good coach to develop those
players into those things.

1885
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:09,480
So if you've already got the
talent and you are doing pretty

1886
01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:12,960
good job of developing that
talent, if you can figure out

1887
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,920
those those situational things,
even if you just improve

1888
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:20,360
marginally, you put yourself in
a better position long term

1889
01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:23,520
because you already have talent
on the field.

1890
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:26,760
Martin and I think, I think.
It's it's just.

1891
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:27,960
Yeah, Yeah.
There you go.

1892
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:31,280
You already said what marginal.
Probably is 20 gives us four

1893
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,000
more wins this.
Year 4 more wins probably.

1894
01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:34,600
Yeah, it's not a lie.
Yeah.

1895
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:38,440
It's marginally get marginally
better is I'll be nice three to

1896
01:49:38,440 --> 01:49:40,120
four more wins, three to four
more wins.

1897
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:42,960
All righty, Brian, you good?
We're.

1898
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:47,440
Gonna close chapter, I'm good.
Big Aflac policy and bring Saban

1899
01:49:47,440 --> 01:49:53,760
in there on the defense.
Where's that Amazon money?

1900
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:55,520
Can we get that Amazon?
Money when we get the Amazon

1901
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:56,640
money.
All righty.

1902
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,120
Well, Brian, let's flip it.
We got some picks to make.

1903
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:03,240
Brian, you did not e-mail me who
did what last week.

1904
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:06,640
Hang on after day.
After day.

1905
01:50:08,480 --> 01:50:10,320
Shelter dominated.
That's all you need to know.

1906
01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:14,080
Yeah, I heard that.
I heard that Jason did taxi.

1907
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:16,000
Thanks.
Shelton went unbeaten last week

1908
01:50:17,080 --> 01:50:20,040
and if he wants, can he make all
of his switches to Shelton's fix

1909
01:50:20,040 --> 01:50:23,320
this week?
I would say anything I pick no

1910
01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:24,920
opposite instead of better
chance.

1911
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:27,760
We'll see.
You won't going to be on the

1912
01:50:27,760 --> 01:50:29,120
screen, but we're writing yours
down.

1913
01:50:29,560 --> 01:50:31,480
Let's go ahead and jump into it.
I'll get it to you though all.

1914
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:33,280
Righty.
Well, Brian, you leading the

1915
01:50:33,280 --> 01:50:41,480
way, man, Your game.
Yeah, man, it is the it's the

1916
01:50:41,480 --> 01:50:47,400
Cox Man 11.
And a half. 11 1/2.

1917
01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:51,320
That was wild to me when I
looked at it.

1918
01:50:51,480 --> 01:50:53,160
And that should be minus by the
way.

1919
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:58,440
Well, no, no, no, no, no.
They're they're laying 11 and a

1920
01:50:58,440 --> 01:50:59,720
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you're
right.

1921
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,200
That should be minus.
That's they are -11 1/2.

1922
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,240
So is that why I was favored by
11 1/2?

1923
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:10,480
Cox, Cox are the favorite here.
All right, so, and, and based on

1924
01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:13,280
that, I mean, I, I, I'd that
that's a that's a big fucking

1925
01:51:13,280 --> 01:51:16,240
line.
So I went with Mizzou here

1926
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:19,800
because while I think the cops
will probably win this game,

1927
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:22,320
that that 11 1/2 is just crazy
to me.

1928
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:25,280
It is crazy.
I think it might be a, you know,

1929
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:29,400
7 to 10 point victory there for
the for the Gamecocks, but I'll

1930
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:32,200
take Mizzou here.
Rob, we will let you go at the

1931
01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:33,520
end until we put everything up
here.

1932
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:37,600
Me, I'm with you.
First of all, South Carolina has

1933
01:51:37,600 --> 01:51:41,240
played their best two games by
far of the year against Texas

1934
01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:44,200
A&M at home.
Where they rushed the field,

1935
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:50,320
Shout out my cousin Hodges who
rushed the field down there, got

1936
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:52,280
some pictures of it.
He and he stole.

1937
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:55,240
I I don't want to say he took
something off the field.

1938
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:57,680
That's all I'm going.
To say.

1939
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:01,520
I know that he took some of the
heads as he was playing in his

1940
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,960
dad's yard.
He said no, but I'm going to zoo

1941
01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:05,960
as well.
Shelton is going.

1942
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:10,960
Shelton's land a big number with
the game cops.

1943
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:13,720
Tally rides with me and you our
wonderful ride.

1944
01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:17,640
Miranda also laying points.
Jason riding with me.

1945
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:19,520
You and Tally.
Robbie.

1946
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:21,320
Yeah.
South Carolina, Missouri.

1947
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:24,480
I think South Carolina's going
to win, but I don't know if it's

1948
01:52:24,480 --> 01:52:27,920
going to be by 11 1/2 or more.
I got to go Missouri.

1949
01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:32,720
I'm not.
Robbie goes Mizzou, I am going

1950
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:40,640
to Madison, WI where effectively
the best looking team I did get.

1951
01:52:40,680 --> 01:52:43,600
This one right this this is a.
You did get this one right.

1952
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:46,400
This is this is our big number
week.

1953
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:50,080
Y'all about to figure out we got
some big ass numbers to be

1954
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:53,120
laying on this week with these
games, but I'm going to Madison,

1955
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:57,880
Oregon, WI, Oregon by far.
If you have watched them play,

1956
01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:59,800
they look like the most complete
team.

1957
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:02,320
They look like the best team.
That's why they are the number

1958
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:05,080
one team in the country.
But they are going to be

1959
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:09,920
travelling to Madison, WI, Camp
Randall, one of the toughest

1960
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:13,880
places to play in the country.
I need to see one thing, Brian,

1961
01:53:13,880 --> 01:53:17,640
real quick before I finish up my
little comment here.

1962
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,320
This is going to be a night game
in Madison.

1963
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:24,680
So that place is going to
probably be Office Rockers,

1964
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:27,040
which is much beers they drink
up there.

1965
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:32,880
So for me, I think 14 1/2 is a
too big a number to lay.

1966
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:35,920
I think Oregon's wins it.
I think they're going to get a

1967
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:38,760
war.
I think Luke Fickle effectively

1968
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:41,840
brings the house knowing that
this is his biggest game of the

1969
01:53:41,840 --> 01:53:44,120
year.
I'm taking Wisconsin.

1970
01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:47,600
Give me the points, Brian.
Yep, riding with you as well

1971
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:51,600
here, Wisconsin it it's it's
again, it's it's Camp Randall.

1972
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:57,120
I think it's going to be a very,
very solid atmosphere for this

1973
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,400
game.
I think they're going to come to

1974
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:01,600
play.
I I don't think they're going to

1975
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:02,680
win.
I don't think they're really

1976
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:08,520
even going to win necessarily
by, you know, a a a a single

1977
01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:09,960
digit here.
I think it could be double

1978
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:14,640
digits, but I think that hook,
that hook baby, I don't like.

1979
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:19,920
I don't like the hook so. 4228.
Exactly.

1980
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:22,920
I mean, you know all.
Right.

1981
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,400
I think 14 1/2 is just a little
too much for me.

1982
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:29,840
What about these two guys,
Shelton, Tally, Say the Ducks.

1983
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:34,880
Miranda rides with us.
Jason, they're laying a lot of

1984
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,360
points.
Robbie, what about you?

1985
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:40,640
I don't think Wisconsin is there
yet.

1986
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:47,000
Oregon is.
Oregon's it right now and I'll

1987
01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:52,240
take Oregon I Oregon by 100.
Oregon by 100I.

1988
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:54,400
Don't think, I don't think
Wisconsin's ready for it.

1989
01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:57,760
And the ducks are coming in and
they're going.

1990
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:01,360
They're every farm I've ever
been to.

1991
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:04,400
There's a pond and they're going
to take over that pond and it's

1992
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,760
all over for them.
All right, I have a 14 and a.

1993
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:10,040
Half.
All righty, here we go.

1994
01:55:10,480 --> 01:55:15,520
I like the 4821 thought 482828.
Something like that.

1995
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:18,720
All right, lots of points.
All right, Shelton is going to

1996
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:24,040
the little apple where K State's
still alive for the Big 12

1997
01:55:24,040 --> 01:55:26,000
championship.
Arizona State.

1998
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,760
A surprising bounce back here
for Arizona State.

1999
01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:32,680
They were kind of absolute trash
with Kenny Dillingham's baby

2000
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:35,120
ass.
What was he 33 last year when he

2001
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:38,520
got hired, 33 when he got hired
last year.

2002
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:42,880
But right now that hire is
looking better and better as

2003
01:55:42,880 --> 01:55:46,520
time goes on.
There are 7 and 2, so they are

2004
01:55:46,520 --> 01:55:49,160
effectively still in the Big 12
race as well.

2005
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:52,520
They need some things to happen.
Brian, who you going with?

2006
01:55:54,200 --> 01:55:56,120
You know, this is interesting.
You know, Curtis talked about

2007
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:59,120
the the big spreads in this big
screeners.

2008
01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:03,000
This is the smallest spread of
any game we're picking tonight.

2009
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:06,000
9.
And it's damn near double

2010
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:09,240
digits.
And this may be the one I'm

2011
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:10,920
really sure about.
You know what?

2012
01:56:10,920 --> 01:56:14,800
And I think K State has a little
bit more to play for and for

2013
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:17,200
that and, and being at home, I
think they're going to go out

2014
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:18,600
there and they're going to take
care of business.

2015
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,280
Yep, and I am kind of right with
you.

2016
01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:25,560
They both actually have playful
both the four and two in

2017
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:28,960
conference.
It's a night game in the little

2018
01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:31,480
apple.
It's got to be K State.

2019
01:56:31,480 --> 01:56:37,280
I think Arizona State kind of
dream season comes to an end.

2020
01:56:39,280 --> 01:56:45,280
Yeah, Shelton is going this is
his game K State.

2021
01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:51,120
I just ran his game K State.
Yeah, somebody did it.

2022
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:54,640
Somebody had to.
Miranda taking 9.

2023
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:58,200
Jason with the purple.
Robbie with the.

2024
01:56:58,840 --> 01:57:03,680
All the long long blonde flowing
locks are going to be running

2025
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:06,240
all up and down that field.
Give me K state.

2026
01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,800
K State.
All righty.

2027
01:57:12,160 --> 01:57:15,160
I was going to, I was going to
have to go in Arizona State if

2028
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:16,600
everybody else would pick K
State.

2029
01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:21,880
I just just to be got you off
the hook got you off the hook.

2030
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:28,400
All righty next game UVA off a
big win against Pitt goes up to

2031
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:32,440
Notre Dame.
This is going to be a 330 kick.

2032
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:39,000
The line is Notre Dame laying 23
Notre Dame effectively if they

2033
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,560
went out, they are in the
playoff right now.

2034
01:57:42,440 --> 01:57:47,240
I did see a matchup y'all one of
the prognosticators put and I

2035
01:57:47,240 --> 01:57:50,720
know I didn't get a chance to
watch the the the playoff

2036
01:57:50,720 --> 01:57:52,200
tonight.
So if y'all saw what happened,

2037
01:57:52,200 --> 01:57:57,000
let me know.
It was something like it was who

2038
01:57:57,000 --> 01:57:59,280
was it?
It was Alabama, Notre Dame and

2039
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:03,480
Notre Dame.
I'm going to tell you, South

2040
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:07,680
Bend in the middle of December
is not a warm place to play at

2041
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:08,040
all.
Last.

2042
01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,400
Time I was in South Bend was in
July and it wasn't extremely a

2043
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:17,000
warm place.
But Notre Dame laying 23, this

2044
01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:21,960
is off the onset of Army is
their next game.

2045
01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:28,160
So Brian, what do you think?
I like Notre Dame very much in

2046
01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:31,040
this game, but I don't know if I
like them. 23 points worth.

2047
01:58:31,040 --> 01:58:34,880
So I'm going to take UVA here.
It's still fuck UVA, but you

2048
01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:37,480
know, yeah.
Not three points worth.

2049
01:58:38,160 --> 01:58:41,920
Yep, I'm with you on that.
I also thinking of the army

2050
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:45,120
game.
I have a very sneaky, sneaky

2051
01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:48,960
feeling Marcus Freeman is
getting them prepared for that

2052
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:52,160
triple option.
So a lot of very very

2053
01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:56,000
responsibility drills this week.
Might as well do it for two

2054
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,200
weeks with a team you clearly
are out talented.

2055
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:01,800
A team that couldn't put 14
points up on North Carolina's

2056
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,600
defense.
Y'all figure that out But give

2057
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:08,360
me UVA as well.
But still, fuck UVA Shelton.

2058
01:59:12,320 --> 01:59:15,440
Shelton is riding with us here.
UVA.

2059
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:24,040
Tally also riding with us with
UVA Miranda is taking Notre

2060
01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:26,000
Dame.
Notre Dame.

2061
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:33,160
By 100, says her and Jason with.
Miranda, Robin, and you off the

2062
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:33,920
hook.
You don't have to.

2063
01:59:34,400 --> 01:59:35,960
You have to.
Take Notre Dame now.

2064
01:59:36,240 --> 01:59:39,560
It wouldn't have mattered.
UVA.

2065
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:41,160
They're cross.
Sabres.

2066
01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:46,720
I got a cross for you.
Notre Dame laying 20.

2067
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:51,000
I don't care.
Robbie, Robbie said.

2068
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:53,280
All right, fuck, fuck Virginia
all the way.

2069
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:55,400
Let's do it.
Virginia versus Hitler.

2070
01:59:56,320 --> 02:00:00,080
Hitler.
No, no, maybe not.

2071
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:05,000
But.
Just to everybody, if you

2072
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:07,200
haven't ever tuned in before.
I feel just.

2073
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:09,040
More coming on stay in the
program.

2074
02:00:09,840 --> 02:00:13,600
I feel like I summoned my inner
counts there.

2075
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:15,640
There you go.
You did.

2076
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:17,400
That's a little bit of an inner
counts right there.

2077
02:00:17,440 --> 02:00:19,480
Yeah.
All right, next game we are

2078
02:00:19,480 --> 02:00:25,200
going to is going to be Utah,
Colorado, Utah, coming off a

2079
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:30,040
heartbreaking loss to BYU,
Colorado comeback win down in

2080
02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:33,840
Lubbock, Colorado laying 10
points.

2081
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:39,400
Ryan, let's say.
You, I mean, Utah has been kind

2082
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:44,800
of up and down this year.
Colorado is really look better

2083
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:48,160
than I expected, even though I
think that Texas Tech game was a

2084
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:49,920
little bit of a comeback to
Earth moment.

2085
02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:54,240
I'm I'm going to go, I'm going
to go Buffalo's here.

2086
02:00:57,240 --> 02:01:01,840
I am against you on this.
I think because of the clash of

2087
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:04,480
styles, I think Colorado still
wins this game.

2088
02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:07,520
I think it's probably by a
touchdown, not much more than

2089
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:11,000
that.
But give me Utah in this

2090
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:17,840
situation.
And Shelton, I'm with you,

2091
02:01:18,200 --> 02:01:22,280
Miranda's with me, Jason's with
you, Robbie's with.

2092
02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:28,240
How many years do you sit and
watch Utah at some point ruin

2093
02:01:29,000 --> 02:01:33,680
somebody's damn day by beating
them USC?

2094
02:01:35,920 --> 02:01:38,960
More people on occasion.
They've done it year in, year

2095
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:41,440
out.
Colorado's sitting there

2096
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:44,760
thinking that they're they're
riding the High Road and, and in

2097
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:48,240
the driver's seat for that, for
that conference championship.

2098
02:01:49,280 --> 02:01:51,400
Utah's going to beat them all
right?

2099
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:57,960
Robbie's saying take the 10, put
the money line on Utah, by the

2100
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:01,600
way, the one that really I think
if you're Colorado, you're

2101
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:06,680
pissed about, you don't know
what time this kick is on the on

2102
02:02:06,680 --> 02:02:08,000
set on Saturday.
I'm.

2103
02:02:08,280 --> 02:02:13,040
Like 1030 airtime. 10:00 Ten
o'clock. 10:00 No, no, no. 10:00

2104
02:02:13,040 --> 02:02:16,200
their time.
Noon, our time, early kick.

2105
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:18,240
Robbie, you might be on to
something there.

2106
02:02:18,240 --> 02:02:22,400
All righty, let's keep rolling.
We finally have gotten to the

2107
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:27,320
end and our Music Man, where he
is taking a look at the biggest

2108
02:02:27,320 --> 02:02:30,280
game of the weekend, potentially
an elimination game.

2109
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:44,560
Tennessee, Georgia.
The Hills.

2110
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:54,960
Were lined with wildflowers and
I was wild Wilder than they for

2111
02:02:55,360 --> 02:03:00,840
these that run.
They just died in the sun and

2112
02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:03,920
our field was just wither and
flame.

2113
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:11,240
So all that rose feeding and
freeing on the road now.

2114
02:03:11,280 --> 02:03:19,200
So I read here now where I go
when flower goes wild.

2115
02:03:19,240 --> 02:03:24,920
Now we get home, whisper while
flowers OK will grow.

2116
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:34,880
Hey folks, welcome back to
another week of guitar licks and

2117
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:36,640
gambling picks.
I'm Jason Long.

2118
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:39,840
I'm playing one of my all time
favorite Dolly Parton songs,

2119
02:03:39,840 --> 02:03:42,960
which must mean one thing.
I'm looking at another Tennessee

2120
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:45,920
game this week.
Now the Volunteers are going to

2121
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:48,800
travel to Athens to take on
Georgia's Saturday.

2122
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:52,840
This will probably be a College
Football Playoff elimination

2123
02:03:52,840 --> 02:03:56,280
game.
And before I get to my pick,

2124
02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:58,320
Georgia fans, let me talk to you
for a second.

2125
02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:02,920
I realize I picked against your
team now three times this

2126
02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:04,960
season.
I'm not trying to pick on you.

2127
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:07,200
Hey, I'm a Widespread Panic fan,
man.

2128
02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:09,640
I've been trying to play Tall
Boy for about a month, but Vegas

2129
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:13,920
is doing you all no favors.
Georgia is 2 and seven against

2130
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:15,120
the spread.
And this week.

2131
02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:18,280
But Tennessee is getting 10 1/2
points.

2132
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:21,400
That seems like too much, so I'm
going with the Volunteers.

2133
02:04:21,400 --> 02:04:23,960
Plus 10 1/2 against Georgia
Saturday.

2134
02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:59,040
Let's go Tennessee.
See you next week.

2135
02:05:02,600 --> 02:05:06,440
Already Tennessee.
And you know what?

2136
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:10,920
I'm going to go ahead and just
lead it off here because I'm

2137
02:05:10,920 --> 02:05:14,080
right with Jason on this 110 and
a damn half.

2138
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:19,160
This could have been 6 1/2 and
I'd have been like, maybe that's

2139
02:05:19,160 --> 02:05:22,840
a little too much.
That's a little too much. 10 1/2

2140
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:26,040
is nuts.
So give me the Volunteers.

2141
02:05:26,600 --> 02:05:30,120
Yeah, I think we all looked at
this one and you see 10 1/2, it

2142
02:05:30,120 --> 02:05:35,600
started somewhere like 14 1/2
early, early, like on Saturday

2143
02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:38,680
night.
And it has come down to it

2144
02:05:38,680 --> 02:05:40,520
actually has come down all the
way to 10.

2145
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:43,920
Now.
Watch some of the Ole Miss game.

2146
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:49,240
Georgia is a good team.
They're not the juggernaut.

2147
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:52,600
Vegas keeps putting the mass and
I think Tennessee is too well

2148
02:05:52,600 --> 02:05:57,360
built on the defensive side of
the ball to get blown out by

2149
02:05:57,360 --> 02:06:03,120
more than 10 points.
Tennessee, OH watch this.

2150
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:06,960
Sheldon's riding, Tally's
riding, Randy's riding, and we

2151
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:08,600
know what Jason's doing.
Yeah.

2152
02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:11,920
What you going to do, Robbie?
What you going to?

2153
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:14,680
Do can you sleep or you flip it?
Against us.

2154
02:06:14,720 --> 02:06:17,280
Oh.
Oh, Jason, He's going to do

2155
02:06:17,320 --> 02:06:19,320
everything he could not to play
Rock it up.

2156
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:23,080
I know that man.
He was my roommate in college.

2157
02:06:24,400 --> 02:06:28,320
I know him very well and looking
at this thing a.

2158
02:06:29,320 --> 02:06:35,400
Lot of tease.
A Georgia favored by 10 1/2

2159
02:06:35,400 --> 02:06:38,440
points against Tennessee.
It's in Athens, right?

2160
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:41,200
It is in Athens, it is going to
be a night game.

2161
02:06:41,840 --> 02:06:47,120
Everybody else pick Tennessee.
I like to be different.

2162
02:06:48,720 --> 02:06:51,520
I'm going, I'm going.
I'm going to take a little route

2163
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:54,520
that that Jason does.
I'm going to match a song to it.

2164
02:06:55,560 --> 02:06:59,040
OK?
You guys know I have a dog.

2165
02:06:59,120 --> 02:07:02,720
My dog's name is Reba.
We're going to go with a Reba

2166
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:05,800
McEntire song.
Oh, and it's going to be the

2167
02:07:05,800 --> 02:07:07,480
night the lights went out in
Georgia.

2168
02:07:07,520 --> 02:07:12,920
There you go, there we go,
Robbie says go dogs.

2169
02:07:12,920 --> 02:07:16,040
All righty.
Well, that wraps up big

2170
02:07:16,040 --> 02:07:19,560
screeners and I don't think
anything has broken.

2171
02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:23,040
There it is, right there.
Upon we look at her, she's

2172
02:07:23,040 --> 02:07:23,800
pretty.
It's always.

2173
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:25,600
Beautiful, man.
It's always beautiful.

2174
02:07:26,640 --> 02:07:30,760
All righty, that does wrap up
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2175
02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:34,080
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2176
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:37,200
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2177
02:07:37,680 --> 02:07:39,840
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2178
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:43,200
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2179
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2184
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2185
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:06,680
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2186
02:08:07,120 --> 02:08:10,240
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2191
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:26,880
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2192
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:29,480
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2193
02:09:08,710 --> 02:09:08,770
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