The Hokies were able to rally again the second half to take down the Thundering Herd at home 31-14. We Tell the Truth about another slow start for the offense paired with a much better outing for the defense. We then turn our attention to ODU as ODU Monarchists co-host Gary Williams as we get to Know the Enemy ahead of another dreaded trip down to Norfolk.
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Music.
Welcome back to the Boundary
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Corner podcast, along with my
partners, Brian Siegler,
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Jonathan Talley, our
contributing writer Miranda
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Wilhelm, Ian Curtis Wilson.
Jonathan Talley is unfortunately
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been ruled out for tonight.
He's a little bit under the
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weather, so he will not be
joining us.
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Tally, get better, man.
You know, we miss you here, but
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as always, we are brought to you
by Doctor Jeremy Counts down at
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the Counts Family Pharmacy.
Your friendly neighborhood
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pharmacy set three O 1 S Main
St. in Blacksburg.
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Drawing was delayed on the PS5.
It should be taking play this
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week.
Jeremy let me know.
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Just a ton of transfers and
stuff happening probably with
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the stuff going on with the
pharmacy with the name change.
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So if your student family member
register for that, don't worry,
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it's coming.
Again, let me know if y'all need
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to send it to Curtis.
I've got his address, I can get
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you hooked up.
He's good for it.
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I'm good for it.
Yeah, I'm really good for it.
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Well, let's start here tonight.
We have for the first time, join
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us and she will be joining us
off and on through the season
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and in the offseason.
Miranda, how are you tonight?
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I'm so good.
Thanks for having me in general
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and tonight Crash in the boys
party Crash.
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In the boys party, yes you are.
Hey, we got to pump it up a
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little bit, right?
Miranda, you're going to hang
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out with us while we do tell the
truth Tuesday.
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You've obviously got to jump off
and take care of some things
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after that, but let's get to
know you a little bit.
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So first of all, you are Tech
alum, correct?
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Yes.
What year did you graduate?
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2008.
Oh wow, y'all remember those
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years?
It was so, so many good years.
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I was there just.
What?
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What?
What years?
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Where are you?
Living the dream there.
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O4 to O8.
So like.
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First year the ACC Brian rant.
I mean, it was a dream.
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Oh God O 4 Brian.
That O four team gives me
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chills.
Memories.
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Oh gosh.
Yeah, oh man, I love that O Four
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team.
Man, I love that O Four team so
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much so.
OK, well, hold on.
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So we're going to get to know a
few other things about you.
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So O4 to O8, who's your favorite
hokey?
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Because that's a tough one.
I mean there are some absolute
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studs during that period.
Like football hokey in that time
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period in.
That time period.
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I the only reason I'm going to
say Ryan Randall is because in
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like, whatever, I forgot what
year it was.
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I tweeted him because I saw him
driving down in North Carolina
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and he like tweeted me back and
I thought that was super like
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cool because I was like, he
doesn't need to tweet some
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random chick.
So, and he like ushered me into
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hokey football experiences.
So he just kind of set the tone.
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He was such a class act and
yeah.
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All right, Brian Rail, that
makes sense here.
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Now go back in the memory bank.
First of all, what was like
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what?
What was your first game?
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1st.
Or pre student.
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First year or very first game at
Lane was Western Michigan.
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We walloped them and I was like,
man, I chose a good school like
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and I chose them for football.
That I was oddly enough between
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JMU and Virginia Tech and I was
like, I'm going with the
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football school.
Little did I know like years
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down the road we lose to JMU,
but whatever.
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I think we beat them by like 60
some points if I'm not mistaken.
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That game I.
Feel like that was right because
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I think that was after the USC
game.
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Yes.
It was after the USC.
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Game.
I moved into my dorm the day we
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played USC and watched that,
yeah, we lost to them.
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And then we came out swinging at
home against, you know.
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I I still the USC game that OPI
that was not is still to this
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day.
Oh, it's it's the what if OPI
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this day I was hammered in my
apartment in Longwood.
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Yeah, throwing things when they
call that penalty.
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Hey, while, while we're, while
we're here, let's we're at a
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decent little pivot point here.
Let's go ahead and shout out
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Ethan, Ethan, Ethan tweeted at
us today.
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He said he was going to be here.
He's here.
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Welcome aboard, also as always.
Lavar love you Lavar.
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Who else is always in the house?
We we can't forget Kevin drones.
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Can never get Kevin drones.
Kevin Kevin.
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Oh man.
And a lot of other good stuff
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going on here.
We got Thomas in the house.
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Tib Tib and senior year was the
O4 with #3 being alive and this
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is.
So great.
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We were right in the midst of
our college career at that
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point.
So that was, that was a good
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year.
But actually I, I'm, I'm sure
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I've told this story, I don't
know if I've told this tomorrow,
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but Brian's brother Brandon was
my RA at Hammond Sydney.
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So it was that was that was
always a pretty fun interaction
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there anytime Brian would make
the trip down to Hammond.
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Sydney, that's so cool.
Wow.
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Very cool, very cool.
Miranda, before we get into, you
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know, tell the truth Wednesday,
you do some other ventures out
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there and I definitely won't.
You've obviously got your
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Twitter handle up there, which
all of you guys and girls who
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are out there tonight following
and watching us follow her on
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Twitter.
So she's we are we are pushing
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to try to get her into the press
conferences.
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We've been working on that.
Hopefully soon she'll be there,
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maybe asking some questions, but
you do some other stuff
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obviously related to football.
So go ahead, pump that out of
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what you do where they can find
your writing when it comes to
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the NFL stuff.
Yeah, so I've been contributing
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to a site called Draft Countdown
for this is my third season,
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just a weekly content, sometimes
a little bit more.
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The whole site is kind of
centered around the draft, but
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they wanted somebody to, they
wanted a psycho fanatic like me
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to come on board and kind of
bridge the gap because all they
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centered everything on was like
prospecting and all rookie
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stuff.
And they were like, you know
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what, let's kind of bring it all
together.
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And you know, even before I got
into college and college
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football, like NF LS kind of
been my bread and butter.
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So that's yeah, you can find my
stuff at Draft Countdown every
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Sunday usually.
And and then the draft.
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Draft season is pretty crazy.
You got to you got to rip your
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team and let us know how your
quarterback's doing.
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Oh yeah, what's?
What's the issue on the?
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Yeah, he was not practicing
today, which is not surprising,
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but the coach is doing the
thing.
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Lafleur is like, you know,
there's he's not, he's not ruled
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out for set for Sunday.
And I'm like.
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Yes, he is.
Like don't.
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Play him.
On an injured MCL, that's.
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Yeah, they threw the doubtful
label on him in the in the
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fantasy apps.
I'm like, he's not fucking
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playing.
Just go and put that he's.
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Going to play until October.
Let's just put that that's.
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What I'm thinking, yeah, yeah,
Week four against the Vikings,
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that sounds reasonable.
So anyways, that was kind of a
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blow.
Week 1, you know, looked forward
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to football for so many months,
then I was like, well, could
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have been worse so.
I I have him in both of my
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fantasy leagues and thankfully
I've got a decent backup in both
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of us.
I've got two in one league.
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And I've.
Got Baker in another so if Baker
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keeps up his week 1 performance
I think I'll be OK.
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Baker looked good, granted it
was the commanders so I don't.
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Know it was.
It was.
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It was the commanders.
That is true all right, well,
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now let's get to it y'all,
because we do have to tell the
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truth tonight about what
happened in the Hokies.
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I mean let's just say it 3114.
When is a winning week versus
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the Marshall thundering heard?
So let's start with what went
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well, and I'm going to start
this because a lot of people
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were hub dropping and pissed
off.
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We will be almost 17 if y'all
remember what happened last year
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when we played them.
Everybody go back in your memory
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banks, go on the line and find
we did not beat this team last
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year.
We did not beat this team last
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year.
So get your heads out of your
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asses about a 17 point win.
We lost to this team last year
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and to get a three score win,
was it the prettiest 3 score
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win?
No, it was not.
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That's an improvement.
If you lose to him last year and
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you beat him the next year, it's
an improvement.
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I am very sorry.
I'm a little bit.
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I, I see that buddy, you're
fired up.
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And when we look at, when you
look at the way the game went,
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it was kind of a mirror of last
year's game where we came out
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firing.
We were running the ball well to
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start the game and then went
away from it and the offense
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fizzled.
And then we never really got our
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footing back.
And we kind of played a reverse
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of that, right?
We kind of came out a little
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uneven, but I will say we didn't
get a lot of points of it.
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But in the first half, the ball
was moving.
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We just couldn't put drives
together.
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It wasn't like Vanderbilt, where
at Vanderbilt it felt like we
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never got anything going that
entire first half.
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Offensively, the ball was
moving.
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We just weren't able to put
those drives together.
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We weren't able to put three
successful plays together often
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enough in that first half to
really put points on the board.
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And then things kind of flipped
again like Curtis alluded to in
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the second-half.
And you know, we're out there.
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You know, if if we play in the
second-half, if we play every
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quarter like we play in the
second-half, I think we'll we'll
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be a pretty damn good team.
But we just haven't put four
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quarters together yet.
Sean, what do you think about
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that man?
I mean.
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Tell us your halves right?
Like first half you look like,
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you know, you can't, you can't
run the ball at all and you're
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in a dogfight with a team.
You should be, you know, kind of
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running over.
And then, you know, second-half
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they start, they start pounding
the ball and kind of
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breakthrough there.
So I'm kind of I'm kind of half
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and half with Curtis.
Like, yes, I I think you should
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always, you know, a three score
win.
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You should, you know, never take
winning for granted.
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They got the job done.
You know, they look mostly
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pretty competent, especially on
defence.
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At the same time, there was, you
know, there was room for
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improvement.
Some things could have done
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better.
You know, I think I think this
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upcoming week will be a pretty
good, pretty good test to see
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how they can handle a, you know,
opponent that they should they
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should take care of business of.
But yeah, I mean, you know, you
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don't it's a 3 score win.
So you don't want to be too mad,
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but at the same time, kind of,
you know, focus on on things
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that can can go better.
I'm sure we'll talk about that
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tonight.
Absolutely, Miranda.
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Anything on just the win in
general?
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Well, kind of like what Shelton
just said.
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Like tale of two halves,
obviously, yes, that's exactly
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how it went down.
And I almost kind of attribute
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both to coaching to some degree.
They came out sluggish to me.
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There's a little coaching in
there.
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You're not setting your players
up for success, you know, coming
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out the gates, but they're able
to come out the half very
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adjusted and established the run
and just look like a whole new
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team.
So you got to give them credit
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there for do what they needed to
do at the half.
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And so it's a little bit of a
weird day, but like you said, a
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wins a win.
When's a win?
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And you're right, it is a little
bit on coaching of because now
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we're seeing this whole this
whole we are a slow team out the
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gate.
When this thing got rolling last
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year, with the exception of
playing three of the best teams
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in league, the other games it
was hot out of the gate, super
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hot out of the gate.
And we only had really 4
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second-half possessions.
We score on three of them.
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But to everybody, to your point,
Miranda, they the adjustments in
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on halftime are working now.
Shelton, Brian, I'll throw it to
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y'all.
What are y'all or actually all
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three of y'all?
What are we seeing?
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What?
What is coming out of the half?
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Because it's clearly something.
Is it just somebody hidden them,
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you know, over the shoulder with
a whistle?
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Like get your head in gear, go
play.
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I'm just not convinced that this
staff is doing a great job of
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making adjustments on the fly.
I think they need to see it,
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look at it, take some time to to
calculate and then they come
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back out and they look
different.
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So that's when you have games
like like last year, I think
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with with ACC opponents, the
things we saw with ACC
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opponents, especially common
opponents that we play every
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year that we've got a decent
amount of tape on.
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We looked very prepared to start
the game.
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You you think Pitt, you think
EBA, you think Wake, you think
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Boston BC.
Yeah, so game, you know, we've
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got a lot of tape on those
teams, even with some of the
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tweaks they have.
We we kind of know what to
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expect there.
I think, you know, we're
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probably a little lucky in that
a lot of the opponents we're
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getting out of conference this
year are common from last year.
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I mean, you, you get ODU, you,
you know, you get, you get
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Marshall, you got Rutgers coming
up.
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So Vanderbilt was really the
only wild card there.
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So maybe that bodes well long
term.
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And I think when we looked at
Week 1, looking at the offense,
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we didn't throw the ball well.
We came out throwing the ball
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out the gate, but what we didn't
do a good job was protecting.
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I think they were playing a lot
of for shell, playing a lot of
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zone making Kyron hit a lot of
tight windows there.
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So, you know, I think they had a
good game plan to kind of slow
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us down out the gate.
And I think it until we got
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really leaning on that rushing
attack, we weren't really able
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to get those sustained drives in
the first half and that was a
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big factor.
Yeah, I think, I think often
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times in in sports discussions,
there's a tendency to conflate
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poor effort.
I have no doubt in my mind that
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the guys in this team, you know,
came out ready to play.
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They want to win, they want to
execute.
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But sometimes you just don't.
And it's it just boils down to
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lack of execution and and, you
know, a delay in in the coaching
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adjustments necessary.
I agree with Brian.
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I think for whatever reason, the
staff seems a little bit slow to
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make those adjustments.
I don't know why that is.
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But you look at the first half,
you know, Marshall played a lot
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of cover three.
They dropped guys in zone.
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They forced Tyron Jones to to
read the field.
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You know, I thought sometimes it
was a case of poor communication
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on the protections.
Now maybe that's an issue with
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Braylon Moore in the offensive
line being being kind of
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sometimes the guys weren't
getting open and sometimes it's
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just a numbers game.
Marshall's dropping too many
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guys that we didn't have anyone
open, you know, in the 1st place
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and they, they couldn't get a
really good push off the ball
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trying to run the ball.
So it was a combination of
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factors.
You know, I think, I think
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there's a lot of a lot of blame
to go around, you know, and, and
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certainly drones has to, you
know, keep keep progressing.
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But yeah, I just, it just seems
like the, the staff, you know,
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really excels at halftime when
they can look over the iPad and,
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you know, they got 10 minutes to
go over all their notes and, and
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just, you know, talk about
everything collectively.
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But for some reason, when, when
it's kind of on the fly, when
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they're, you know, in the midst
of the heat of battle, they,
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they, they just aren't seeing
those those adjustments.
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So whatever those are, I mean,
we'll see if they can if they
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can get better at that.
But I think I don't think it's a
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question of the players wanting
to come on me, you know, play
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hard.
I know they want to play hard.
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It's just they're they're not
set up in the right position and
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right away.
And it's just taking time for
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the coaching staff to put them
in those in those positions to
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be successful.
You got anything on this,
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Miranda?
No, I 100% agree and just goes
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back to like, I, I don't know if
I said this here, I said it to
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Brian before the show, but like,
you know, he mentioned, yes, we
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were, we were doing things with
the ball in the first half,
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right.
The blame goes around a little
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bit.
You know, you come out a certain
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way, that's fine.
Offensive line was a little
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shaky.
We went one and nine on 3rd down
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in the first half.
That's not good, but again,
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that's doesn't fall on one
person, right?
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And we didn't make those
adjustments that we needed to.
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So we didn't score a lot of
points.
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Luckily, our special teams and
defense was.
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Present.
Absolutely.
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That was.
Shout out to the defense and
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definitely shout out to the
special teams with Jay Lane
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because even though I'm I've got
that in another category for
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another reason in a little
while, Jay Lane that that was an
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amazing run back there.
Was, Oh yeah, doubt about.
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That it.
It was, it was set up well, but
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that was just like an immense
individual effort by him getting
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in the end zone there.
So one of the better run backs
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that that I've seen on a punt.
So, and, and really something
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that kind of got us out of our,
you know, I, I think a lot of
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times there, there's some mental
aspects there, right?
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Because you come out, you don't
have a good first half against
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Vanderbilt, you come out,
you're, you're, you're getting
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some yards, but you're not able
to put drives together.
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You're not able to put points on
the board.
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That starts to play with your
mentals a little bit.
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So kind of getting that first
half touchdown off your
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shoulders a little bit.
That was so huge.
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I think for their, their
confidence going into the rest
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of the game.
And I think it really kind of
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showed you get that monkey off
their back a little bit.
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Yeah.
All right.
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Well, let's talk about these
three guys next, because when
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the second-half happened, when
we started running the ball, it
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became super effective
regardless who was in the
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backfield between Tugboat
Tooting.
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Yeah, I said tugboat.
If y'all didn't see the chain,
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go check that out.
That's all time chain, all time
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chain.
And then Malachi Thomas with
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some good runs, PJ Prelude also
with some good runs.
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All four guys average in their
carries over 4 1/2.
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A carry with Bashel and Malachi
over 5 1/2.
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So, Sheldon, what's the numbers
on these guys?
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PFF grades for the game?
Because clearly, you know those
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three guys. 193 combined rush
yards.
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Yeah, well, Malachi Thomas only
got 10 snaps, but he was really
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well graded, 77 per PFF.
And then Tooten, you mentioned
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113 yards on 22 carries.
He was around 65, which is kind
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of right, right around average,
but you know, did well
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statistically.
And what he did really well was
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was for seven missed tackles.
So he's now up to 10 missed
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tackles for us on the season,
which is top 25 in FBS, kind of
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similar short as last year.
Just his ability to, you know,
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to to break away from.
From defenders, you know, not I
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mean, if you if you leave the
country in that stat, it's it's
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kind of like, you know, your
your online should be doing a
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little bit better.
But you know, we we kind of know
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that we know that we know that
he's got that in him.
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So not going to knock knock him
for that, but it's still still a
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pretty impressive
accomplishment.
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So, and, and Curtis, we were
talking about this earlier in
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the week, but looking at the
team stats for Vt rushing wise,
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64% of the yards were after
contact.
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And I mentioned that's that to
you.
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Vt of the season ranks 99th in
yards before contact per rush.
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So overall, they're not doing a
great job of, you know, getting
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getting running back to that
second level before they get
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touched.
And so that's why we see tune
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having to keep, you know,
breaking, having to keep, you
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know, getting getting missed
tackles for us.
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So, yeah, I mean, I, I think
you've got a, a situation where
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the O line is, you know, a
little bit underperforming a
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little bit and you're kind of
have to, you know, rely on the
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on the running backs to make
plays happen.
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And they certainly did that on
Saturday.
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Yeah, Miranda, let me get your
take.
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Because when we come out half
it's it's 10 seven.
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It's it's not the best feel in
the world.
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It's like it's a 3 point game
when you saw that opening drive,
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boom and then boom.
And then what was your thoughts
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on that?
Like sitting there, I'm sure you
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were drinking a cold one or a
cocktail and you just saw this
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and it just we the ball just
kept moving.
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Well, it's like what I know you
especially preached.
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We did what we needed to do and
we're like, hello, look, it's
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it's working more of that.
And I don't care who gets the
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ball if we're confusing them
that way, do that.
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I mean, obviously Basil is the
guy, but everyone's been
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serviceable.
So I love it.
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I'd love, I'd love to see more
of it.
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Yeah, I think that's the big
thing is that we we've, we've
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seen that the the running game
can be consistent, right?
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And we saw some things, yeah, we
started to see some bread and
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butter, a little bit of identity
in the in the second-half there
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outside outside zone was looking
pretty good, pretty consistent.
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A lot of split zone counter was
hitting pretty well.
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So we were, we were kind of
getting into those bread and
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butter plays.
The only thing that we haven't
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got into, and I know Sheldon's
talked about it as well as, you
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know, that toss we still haven't
quite gotten.
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The.
Seal on that.
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The, the seal is not there.
And the couple times I mean,
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it's just our tight ends not
getting out there to, to kind of
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wall that, that outside
linebacker or that safety to,
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to, to open up that lane.
But if if we get that working, I
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think we might be on to
something.
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OK, they need to go watch.
That gives us a little bit of
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variety with how we can attack
in the in the rushing game.
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They need to go watch the 49ers
and how we did that with Jordan
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Mason on Monday night on the
short side of the field with
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those tosses.
I mean it, yeah.
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Everyone can learn from.
Shannon Perfect Lane I.
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Mean.
Yeah, seriously.
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Like when you see that, though,
because I think to Sheldon's
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point, we saw that last year, We
saw that little pitch toss work
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last year to the outside.
And again, what does that do?
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That puts linebackers on skates
Because now if they see
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something like that, their first
intuition is to take the outside
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step.
And if you do that fake and then
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you go inside zone, it's like,
well, they're dead.
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They're going to be on skates.
You're going to be out of
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position.
All right, couple more things.
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I want to go to defense because
we we got we got to keep the
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best one for last.
What a bounce back from
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Minnesota lane.
I mean, he got torched by Vandy
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and this week Shelton.
I didn't know, were you able to
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get the PFF stats on him?
So I don't have the actual
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grade, but I can tell you his
coverage when when targeted.
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So Marshall went after him eight
times.
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They were one for 8 for 25 yards
in interception and two pass
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pass breakups.
So he was.
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And.
The and the one catch was the
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Moss play that probably was a
offensive pass.
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Pass.
But still a hell of a catch.
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I know I saw.
When I saw that, I I told my
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friends that was the greatest
catch I've ever seen live, like
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ever.
That's right, I don't know how.
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That yes, I was like, I was
right.
446
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,920
I was near the plate too.
Like that.
447
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,480
That was just insane.
That's so cool.
448
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,920
So, so like, like now we, we,
we, we go to Week 1 and it's
449
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,640
like we're specting the duo
Dorian Balls.
450
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,480
Mansour gets torched.
I mean, Brian, did you get, I
451
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,920
don't know if y'all got to watch
the tape or anything like that.
452
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,920
I mean, was it just, and don't
get me wrong, Christian
453
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,400
Fitzpatrick and their other guy,
they're not small human beings.
454
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,760
They're not.
I think Fitzpatrick who mossed
455
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,760
in his 64 like 220.
He's a massive human being to be
456
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,120
a wide out.
But did it did like was it just
457
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:07,520
technique?
What did y'all see or read or
458
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,040
whatever and say?
How did he have such a good
459
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,640
bounce back game?
Comfort and confidence.
460
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,200
I mean, he looked a lot more
fluid and in his movements and
461
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,480
he looked like he knew kind of
where things were going.
462
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,200
I don't know if the the
preparation was different this
463
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,120
week.
I'm not sure what what exactly
464
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,320
flip switch from a confidence
standpoint, but completely
465
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,200
different player this week and,
and played with a lot of swagger
466
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,720
that we're kind of accustomed
to.
467
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,520
So it was good to see him kind
of get back into that, that vein
468
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,080
and and play with that
confidence because, you know,
469
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,840
playing playing corner, you got
to be confident.
470
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:50,160
If you're not confident playing
corner, you're a liability. 100%
471
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,720
All right, one other defenses
stat I want to go to real here
472
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,240
and y'all may have looked it up.
Do y'all know how many past
473
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,760
deflections we had against
Vanderbilt?
474
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:10,080
It wasn't many.
Less No 2, they counted yeah, 22
475
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,240
pass deflections, 2 pass
deflections.
476
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,400
They went 600% better this week.
We had 12 pass deflections, most
477
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,800
Phillips, Kalai Lawson, Kalai
Kalai Lawson led the way with
478
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,000
three, most with two, Jalen
Jones with two, Mansour with
479
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,640
two, Dante Lovett with two,
Caleb Spencer with two.
480
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:35,800
So that makes me feel a lot
better because it tells me we
481
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,200
were in the right position so
many more times this week.
482
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,680
Obviously the the man sore in
most the interception combo was
483
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,280
perfect because they were
exactly where they were supposed
484
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,080
to be.
They're exactly where they're
485
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,320
supposed to be.
Somebody said, well, man sore
486
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,200
looked out of place.
You look where most was.
487
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,200
No, that was a zone concept.
Clearly where they were because
488
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,800
why is most going to be
underneath?
489
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,200
Why is he going to be coming
over top?
490
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,760
Probably a cover 2 concept of
some type, but it was perfect.
491
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:08,240
So going forward, do we hope to
see this more or how can we see
492
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,200
this?
Why such a flip in y'all's
493
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:16,080
opinions?
I think that, you know, just
494
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,320
looking at the way that that
they were attacking us, I think
495
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,320
we looked a lot more prepared on
defense for the offense that
496
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,760
came out and, and what we were
expecting as far as how they
497
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,120
were going to attack our
defense.
498
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,120
We we got kind of what we
expected.
499
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,960
I think for I'm not sure what
was going on with the defense
500
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,960
against Vanderbilt, whether it
was, you know, rotations not
501
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,640
being what they wanted to be,
whether it was just not truly
502
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,400
being prepared scheme wise to
approach that shotgun triple
503
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040
option look.
But we did not look like a
504
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,480
prepared defense.
We looked a lot more prepared
505
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,640
this week.
We we looked like we were, we
506
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,440
knew what was coming at us and
we knew how to adjust to that.
507
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,560
So that's the big difference for
me.
508
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:10,080
And I think when you have that,
when you have a offense that you
509
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,640
can actually pin your ears back
a little bit more and go after
510
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,160
that lets you play more man, you
can mix up your man a lot more.
511
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,400
And, and I think that's where
our bread and butter is, is when
512
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,000
we can go after the pass or play
a lot more man, We, we look a
513
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,880
lot better as a defense.
Yeah, I mean, they definitely,
514
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,520
they definitely seem more
confident and, you know,
515
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,800
obviously Marshall runs the air
raid.
516
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,240
So, you know, expect him to
throw a lot more.
517
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,800
But I just thought they're more
aggressive, more confident.
518
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,440
And you know, with with Elaine,
honestly, I was, I was never
519
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,000
worried about Monsoor for a
second.
520
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,200
Like, you know, he he he had two
years of a really good body of
521
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,880
work, played one board game.
You know, he's been a he's been
522
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,120
a baller since day one.
So you kind of figure out he's
523
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,320
going to have a have a bounce
back and credits to credits to
524
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,360
PB on on Hokie Twitter for this
stat.
525
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:02,720
So the 9, the 9 PB us for the
Hokies were the most since 2016.
526
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,520
That was Fuente's first season
against Miami, so pretty, pretty
527
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,720
impressive.
Pretty impressive streak there.
528
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,480
All right, Miranda, you got
anything on this, Anything on
529
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,840
the past breaks UPS, anything
you saw while watching the game
530
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,320
Saturday?
Say I'm just echo everything and
531
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,960
to me it just you come out with
swagger, you know, turn around
532
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,560
game after.
And like Brian said, maybe it's
533
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,560
a matter of just true.
You have the tape.
534
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,640
You played this team last year,
you were just more prepared to
535
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,560
be in the right place at the
right time and it wasn't.
536
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,040
You didn't have to make those on
the fly adjustments, but
537
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,800
whatever it was, it worked.
So more of that.
538
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,800
All right, I'm going.
I'm going to answer this
539
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,440
question real quick here.
They had 20 more passing
540
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,640
attempts.
Robbie been the only passing
541
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,920
ball 16 times.
Marshall went 436.
542
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:07,880
So obviously more opportunities,
but seriously 16 to 3036 is not
543
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,400
a six 100% gain on that so.
Don't fucking remind me.
544
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,720
Yes, all.
Right.
545
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,680
Let me go real quick, last one,
and we'll pitch it to Miranda.
546
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,440
Give me your exact feelings on
the Steven Gosnell catch.
547
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:36,040
Oh my gosh, I I was drinking a
lot of beers and I, I think I
548
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,480
was sitting down and I like
slammed my beard down and just
549
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,680
went insane.
And my parents, I think my dad
550
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,760
was like outside grilling or
something and he like runs his
551
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080
eyes like what happened?
And I was like, we have to
552
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,560
rewind this.
And then of course that
553
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,240
pictures.
It should be in the Louvre.
554
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,240
I mean, it's beautiful.
It was insane.
555
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:03,840
It was so freaking clutch.
He, he had to work so hard for
556
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,960
that.
Like, that's not a given catch
557
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,040
to anybody.
It's, it was lovely.
558
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,720
Dare I say, what a guy.
Cole Esque.
559
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,680
Danny.
Cole Esque.
560
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Dare I say oh.
Me Shelton, he's a dog man.
561
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,600
Where where were you?
Where were you in relation to
562
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,640
where that was?
Because the.
563
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,960
So I actually, I actually, yes,
I was on the closer to the, to
564
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,680
the north side, closer to the
student section, about 5 hours
565
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,320
or so actually.
I could not see Steven when he
566
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,920
landed on the ground.
So I was kind of waiting on the
567
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,640
reaction from everyone else.
I saw him, I saw him die for it,
568
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,960
but didn't see him at the catch.
But yeah, he's, I mean, we got,
569
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,040
we got to find a way to get him
get more targets, man.
570
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,400
He's just, he's a, he's a dog.
Yeah, we, we've got, we've got a
571
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,800
very good problem right now,
which is how to feed all of
572
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,480
these dogs on our unit.
Because we, we have a bunch of
573
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,160
them and we got a a handful of
them waiting in the wings too.
574
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,360
So we got plenty of mouths to
feed.
575
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,040
So it's a very good problem to
have.
576
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,440
I'd like to see us do a little
bit more of it, especially if we
577
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,720
can get the running game going
early to set them up for some
578
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,920
big plays later in the game.
So 100%, by the way, Steven
579
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,280
Gosnell leading the team and
receiving yards right now at
580
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,920
126.
Who had that on their bingo card
581
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,880
after week two?
I mean, I I love the guy with I
582
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,400
don't think any of us had that
on their on.
583
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Our bingo card.
Nope, not at all.
584
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Maybe I would have had them on
my bingo card for converting
585
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,160
third downs because that's what
he does all the time.
586
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,400
All righty, let's go with it.
We went well, some a lot of more
587
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,000
good things this week, but let's
go with what went bad.
588
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,280
And I think we're all there and
we, we kind of hit it a little
589
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,840
bit already and it's just
another slow start on offense.
590
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,560
Not the first drive, the first
drive we get into the territory
591
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,520
we need to get into, get down to
the 35 and everything stalls.
592
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,920
But it was the subsequent after
that.
593
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,960
And again, Brian, you mentioned
a few minutes ago, not until
594
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,080
really the J Lane touchdown do
we get sparked.
595
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,280
So, you know, we're, we've
talked about it a lot already.
596
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,960
I mean, is this the week that
everything changes?
597
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,800
You, you hope it is right.
You hope, you hope it is and you
598
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,200
know, you hope that we can
finally get past this, this
599
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,520
confidence issue.
And I feel like it it kind of
600
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,200
it's snake bit US against
Vanderbilt.
601
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,720
We came out, we didn't, we had a
couple drives that didn't go
602
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,400
well.
Then we have the turnover on the
603
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,680
tipped screen pass and then it
feels like, you know, we're kind
604
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,160
of getting in our own way a
little bit.
605
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,680
And I, I think it's still a
confidence issue.
606
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,840
And I'm hoping that we've kind
of gotten that past us a little
607
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,720
bit because we've seen the
ability of this team, even with
608
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,160
the offensive line struggles
we've had, we've seen that they
609
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,200
have the ability to put up
points and score the football.
610
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,800
We just got to be consistent and
we got to be able to do it
611
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,960
coming out of the gate.
Miranda, you follow NFL teams.
612
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,240
What do you see and what do you
read when there's there's a
613
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,280
struggle out of the gate with
NFL teams?
614
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:16,120
Preparedness, I mean, going back
to that and I really would I
615
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:22,199
would look at coaching like why
is your team also?
616
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,600
Well, let me let me back up
because the NFL because I
617
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,639
followed the draft so closely
and the team in the off, you see
618
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:34,000
that the offensive line can
shift a lot, right.
619
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,440
But like you have a whole
offseason and Pry said it before
620
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,320
the game opener against Vandy.
He said this is like we feel the
621
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,719
best about this line.
And he he had the confidence out
622
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,480
loud.
But it doesn't necessarily, you
623
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,880
know, crystallize on the field
like Brian said, like out the
624
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,440
gates.
And you just wonder.
625
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,400
It's like, do we try something
else?
626
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,080
At at what point do we try
something else?
627
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,600
At what point is it because it
is Cape?
628
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,680
They are capable, but it's
inconsistent and that can be
629
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,680
frustrating to watch when you
have all these weapons that are
630
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,040
just waiting in the wings, you
know?
631
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,840
Yeah, it's very true.
Sheldon, anything with you?
632
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,320
Let's just kind of put the cap
on the bat and to think about
633
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,120
it.
Yeah, I mean, you know, online
634
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,400
wise, obviously struggled to run
the ball in the first half.
635
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,000
Ken Moore did not grid out
particularly well at right guard
636
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,600
and honestly, lathe Gannon
really struggled left guard to
637
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,840
being, you know, they had to so
much so that they had to kind of
638
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,920
take him out towards the end
there.
639
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,880
But he he graded out a 43 and
really and and and run blocking.
640
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,760
So, you know, they they made a
change there.
641
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,000
I also think, you know, like I
said, they they struggled to
642
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,800
identify some of those edge edge
blitzes and blitzes.
643
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,000
And I would assume that's
probably a protection issue and
644
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000
drones was pressured on 50% of
his drop backs.
645
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,400
So that's not it's not a good
number.
646
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,280
It's got to get better.
I think it just I just think
647
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,760
it's, it starts with the
protection.
648
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,080
And again, part of that's
Chiron, part of that's
649
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,000
receivers, part of that's O
line.
650
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,960
Like there's, I mean, there's a
lot of blame to go around, but I
651
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,360
just think everything was out of
sync in that that first half.
652
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,240
Part, I just think part of that
is establishing the run early
653
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,280
and get your quarterback
comfortable with those, you
654
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,800
know, low hanging fruit, those
easy completions, getting
655
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,120
everyone comfortable.
And I thought they did a pretty
656
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,960
good job with that on the 1st
drive and then it stalled.
657
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,680
And then I feel like they went
away from that.
658
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,600
They, they didn't get him
comfortable in the passing game
659
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,280
at that point going forward
throughout the rest of the first
660
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,680
quarter and most of the second
quarter.
661
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,320
And I think that was probably
where the, where the struggles
662
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,080
were is that, you know, you lose
a little bit of that confidence
663
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,720
and then you're kind of back at
square one.
664
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:49,520
Because when your offensive line
is inconsistent, it makes it, it
665
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,360
makes it a lot harder to play
quarterback just plain and
666
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,480
simple.
Because some, because if if
667
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,200
you're getting sacked, you're
getting chased around, sometimes
668
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,240
you're seeing ghosts.
There's a lot of things that
669
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:01,760
happened there when when you
have a offensive line that's
670
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,320
very inconsistent.
Let me ask you this, Brian, and
671
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,480
this is this is almost an
offseason topic.
672
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,400
We always hear we're trying to
mix and make guys learn
673
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,120
positions.
Is that something maybe what
674
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,520
what we have we don't have the
capability to do on the
675
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,160
offensive line.
If you're a right guard you
676
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,160
that's where you're going to
play.
677
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,080
You're going to learn every
step.
678
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,680
You're going to learn every play
from there versus, well, now
679
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,920
you're going to try left and now
we're going to put you out at
680
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,040
right.
Could that be an issue with the
681
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,840
offensive line?
It's the muscle memory in there
682
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,160
with these guys and they just
don't have the capability
683
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,880
because we understand why you
want to do it.
684
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,000
You want to be prepared if
somebody goes down, but it
685
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,800
doesn't matter if you can't
execute the play.
686
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,560
Yeah.
I mean, cross training is
687
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,240
important and we've, we've
talked about on here how
688
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:49,200
important it is to, to cross
train, especially the offensive
689
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,280
line, having that position
flexibility to be able to play
690
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,600
guard and tackle.
We got a bunch of guys that can
691
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,640
play guard and tackle.
We got a bunch of guys that can
692
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,600
play, you know, right guard,
left guard.
693
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,840
We got a couple guys that are
kind of moving from guard to
694
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,720
center.
We are really our, our two
695
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:09,320
primary centers are guards that
have been kind of moved into
696
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,120
that spot, right.
So that's part of the problem.
697
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,480
I I think if it were me, I would
have probably left Kaden at
698
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,680
center and, you know, maybe
maybe stood pat with that.
699
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,000
I think what they were trying to
do with that is they wanted to
700
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,560
get that that Caden Parker
tandem back that I think they
701
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,080
thought that worked a little bit
better.
702
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:38,240
And then have Xavier, who is
played admirably at that left
703
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:41,560
tackle along with a younger guy
on the left side there.
704
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,080
I just think maybe it's still
taking time to gel.
705
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:48,120
Things don't always happen out
the gate.
706
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,920
It's a big difference when you
start playing teams with
707
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,440
different colored jerseys on.
So it does take some time for
708
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,440
that adjustment to take place.
So I'm not saying that it's not
709
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,880
time to look for answers, but
I'm also saying let's let's be a
710
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,120
little bit patient because as
much as we want to win every
711
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,920
game on our schedule, those ACC
matchups are going to be a whole
712
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,520
lot more important than a
Vanderbilt or an ODU teams that
713
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,560
we, you know, match up very well
against from a talent
714
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:25,240
standpoint. 100% all righty,
just a couple more things on
715
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:30,760
what went bad, y'all.
I know we talked about the good
716
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,240
special teams and I feel as far
as the punt return goes, as far
717
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,080
as the kickers go, they're
excellent.
718
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,400
But this is again the second
straight week with a massive
719
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,040
gaff and it really gave Marshall
life.
720
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,840
When we have a block kick and I
got a little Miranda, you listen
721
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,960
to the presser, I was there not
far behind you.
722
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,120
Were you a little bit perturbed
when Brent Price said or they
723
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,440
brought a guy off the edge and
we didn't know what to do?
724
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,680
He said he said the quiet part
out loud.
725
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,320
He did.
I know.
726
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,880
But were you perturbed by that?
Because I'm sure in your head,
727
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,560
while you're listening, it's
like, well, coach, wouldn't you
728
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,600
just we haven't seen this.
We have 3.
729
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,720
Let's readjust, right?
Yeah.
730
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,080
I I, I think that's a trend
we're seeing is that sometimes I
731
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,240
think Brent is a little slow to
take a time out just because
732
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,360
there's a problem.
I think he sees things a little
733
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,600
bit quicker on on defense and I
think he's a little more attuned
734
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,720
on offense.
I think we're seeing that maybe
735
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,920
there's a little bit of delay
with that decision making when
736
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,320
it comes to special teams just
because there are different
737
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,520
moving parts that he's not as
familiar with with that unit.
738
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,160
So yeah, that may just be a gap
that he's still adjusting to at
739
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,720
this point as far as how to make
those decisions in game.
740
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,840
Showing anything you were there
live and actually that happened
741
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:04,800
towards the North End, right?
Oh, wow, yeah, yeah, I did.
742
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,720
I mean, I thought I thought
Peter was a little bit slow to.
743
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:12,800
I could I could see it coming
from, I don't know, like when
744
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480
they got their rush off, I was
like, this does not look good.
745
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,760
I thought, I thought Peter was a
little bit slow getting the pun
746
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,040
off.
But, you know, Coach Price said
747
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,640
that, you know, they hadn't seen
that look before where basically
748
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,960
the the guy guarding the
receiver bails.
749
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,200
And it was it was a great play
called by by Marshall.
750
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:35,240
You bail right before laterally
and then the second ball
751
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:36,400
snapped.
You, you know, go for the
752
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,120
punter.
I don't know if maybe Marshall
753
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,280
saw something on the film that,
you know, they felt like they
754
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,240
they could get away with that.
Certainly possible.
755
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:48,840
But I, I think you should give
it a little bit of credit just
756
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,440
because from what probably was
saying like that's not a, that's
757
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,080
not a play call you see very
often.
758
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:56,560
And they, they talked with some
NFL teams like about, about
759
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,760
that, that play.
And I guess, you know, it
760
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,320
happens once every so often.
But yeah, I don't know.
761
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,520
I mean, I guess you should be
prepared for everything.
762
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,680
But it seems like they they just
don't really see a lot.
763
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,120
All righty.
Well, let's go to the things we
764
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,760
were not prepared for.
Miranda, your shot, anything in
765
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,800
the game you were not prepared
for statistically in game,
766
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:22,200
etcetera.
I think and Shelton, you can
767
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,120
correct me if I'm wrong, but I
thought I had read that we had
768
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,320
an we gave up another 4 sacks
this week for a second week in a
769
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,360
row.
Is that right?
770
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,640
I can Fact Check once.
And it's so again, you know, and
771
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:43,080
I hate to like shit on the
online consistently, but I you
772
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,200
just can't do that.
Like, you know, because I say
773
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,440
all these other things like, oh,
we couldn't get third down
774
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,240
going.
We couldn't do this.
775
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:53,000
Well, yeah, you can't when
you're when your guy is getting,
776
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,000
you know, and I know 4 isn't
like outrageous, but that's two
777
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:03,600
weeks in a row, 4 sacks.
It's just I thought we would
778
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,320
come out a little bit, a little
bit more prepared than that all.
779
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,440
Right, and it was 4.
All right, OK.
780
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,840
It was 4 sacks.
It was 4 sacks.
781
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,320
So yeah, Sheldon, you were
there.
782
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,120
You obviously probably watch
some of the tape.
783
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,400
We know you do you read up some
of the stats.
784
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,400
What about you?
Anything you want to say?
785
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,960
Yeah, not prefer I I would say,
you know, I I wouldn't call it
786
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,640
lackluster, but I've a little
bit disappointed by the passing
787
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,320
game.
Just seems like it hasn't been,
788
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,120
you know, quite clicking and,
you know, I'd love to get
789
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,120
Brian's thoughts on this, but it
seems to me like I Vt is it's
790
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,880
been after run ball well to to
move the ball.
791
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,720
I think drones is not a
prototypical drop back passer.
792
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:50,560
I think he's best when he's
doing RP OS bootlegs, you know,
793
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,040
get it out in space, get away
from the online, you know, throw
794
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,080
down field.
It just seems like other teams
795
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,920
are forcing him to, you know,
kind of sit back in the pocket
796
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,160
and dissect zone defenses, you
know, cover 3, cover 4, and I
797
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,480
think he's kind of struggled
with that.
798
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,360
So, you know, that's been
something that I was certainly
799
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,080
hoping for a little bit more
there, you know, just because
800
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,400
of, you know, what we expected
with his development in passing
801
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,160
game.
It just hasn't quite been there.
802
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,000
I think right now it seems kind
of off.
803
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,520
You look at the targets, you
know, some guys aren't getting a
804
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,600
ton of catches that you you
would normally expect.
805
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,880
So I, I certainly think the
passing game leaves a little bit
806
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,800
to be desired.
And I was a little bit
807
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,800
underwhelmed by, you know, kind
of what we've seen through
808
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,880
through two games and certainly
on Saturday.
809
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,520
Yeah.
And Sean kind of hit it on the
810
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,960
head there.
I, I, I think Kyron does a lot
811
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,360
better when with the RP OS, when
you can move the pocket, get
812
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,120
those half field, you know, 1-2
like a high, low read and things
813
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,600
like that.
I think he does a lot better
814
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,800
with those things and, and it's
a lot to process if you're, if
815
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,560
you've got a full field, you
know, 3 or 4 progression read
816
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:02,240
and you know, defenses are in
your lap a little bit because
817
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:03,880
offensive line's a little
inconsistent.
818
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,920
So I think it's the combination
of those things where we're
819
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,280
we're dropping straight back in
those in those, you know, three
820
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,160
and five step drops a little bit
more than we did last year where
821
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,800
it was more RP OS move in the
pocket, letting Kyron do what he
822
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,440
does best, which is deliver a
ball kind of off platform on the
823
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,800
run.
He is very accurate and and very
824
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,760
good at doing those things.
I just think we haven't seen a
825
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,120
lot of those, but I feel like we
get better when we when we start
826
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,680
throwing some of those elements
in there.
827
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,440
I think some of those big plays
that we saw against Vanderbilt
828
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,280
were off of that type of action
to to get Ollie Jennings open
829
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,920
one time, to get Jay Lane open
one time.
830
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,400
There's there's a couple of big
plays we saw against Vanderbilt.
831
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,000
We're off of that.
I think we need to kind of maybe
832
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,080
get back to our identity and
understand that maybe
833
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,400
simplifying things a little bit
is the way to go because we hope
834
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,360
we saw success with that.
And I think the other thing with
835
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,520
the passing game is that, you
know, I don't think we can go
836
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,360
another game with with Ollie
Jennings registering AA0.
837
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,760
You got you got to get him the
ball.
838
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:16,200
He is too talented not to be
able to get behind the defense.
839
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,160
And I, and I think they were
doing a good job of like not
840
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,360
letting us take the top off the
the defense.
841
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,480
They they definitely were saying
if you want to matriculate the
842
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,000
ball down the field in the
passing game, by all means,
843
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,000
we're not going to play a lot of
man.
844
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,120
We're going to play zone.
We're going to make you throw
845
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,680
into tight windows.
These are not things that I
846
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,120
think are our strengths.
I think I think we can do them,
847
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,720
but they're definitely not our
strengths.
848
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,440
I think we need to again, lean
on the running game.
849
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,360
So they have to get out of that
look where they can't just sit
850
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,640
back and wait on us to do
something underneath.
851
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,480
So that, that that's my take
there.
852
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,600
And I think if we do that, we'll
be OK.
853
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,720
Understood, Understood.
I mine was what turn around for
854
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:01,680
the linebackers.
That room was we, we in here,
855
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,440
we, we, we game a little bit of
a shellacking last week, all
856
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,520
intentions purposes for good,
but they played so significantly
857
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,800
better.
They were in the right spots
858
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,520
with the exception of the one
big play, the 69 yard run to AJ
859
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,680
Turner.
You take away that big run, it
860
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:25,680
was 25 for 70 per run.
That's well under that's
861
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,360
borderline like like 2.3, which
is nothing.
862
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,640
So just but it's good to see it.
That's the confidence growing
863
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,000
and that's what I like to see.
Brian, we're going to we're
864
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,680
going to wrap this up real quick
because it is getting late.
865
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,640
We don't want Miranda to miss
her bedtime.
866
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,360
Can't mess with.
Them.
867
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,960
Ain't the only one, but Brian,
one thing you feel we've got to
868
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,040
do this better moving forward
against ODUN the rest of the
869
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,200
season.
I mean it's low hanging free,
870
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,800
right with pass protection.
If, if we can give our
871
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,680
quarterback a little bit more
time, if we can do those little
872
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,200
things better in the passing
game with communication of blitz
873
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,920
pick up, I think we're going to
be in a good position going
874
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,760
forward because we know the
talent at the skill positions
875
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,240
are there.
So take take care of your
876
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:16,520
quarterback block for your
running back.
877
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,120
Good things are going to happen.
Sean, what about you?
878
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,800
Yeah.
Well, to to hammer home your
879
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,040
point about the rush defense,
that 69 yarder was really the
880
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,800
one they play that Marshall had.
And it goes to show how averages
881
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,800
can be misleading because I
think, I think Marshall's
882
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:40,120
average yards per carry. 5.7
Right 5.7.
883
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,240
Right.
But you take that, you take that
884
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,920
69 yarder out and look at it, I
think it was, I think it was
885
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,320
under 3.
So that's why we have stats like
886
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,400
success rate, which look at, you
know, if you were successful on
887
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,760
each play.
And I don't think I wasn't quite
888
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,800
able to get rushing success rate
from that game in particular.
889
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,720
But you look at run stuff rate,
Stuff rate is the percentage of
890
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,560
runs that are stopped at or
behind the line of scrimmage.
891
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,040
So Tech had a 15% run stuff rate
against Marshall on defense.
892
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,880
That's really good.
That was the bottom, bottom
893
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,200
first percentile for all FBS
games this year.
894
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,040
So they were, they were really
good.
895
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,800
Just, you know, forcing, forcing
0 or negative yardage plays was
896
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,640
really helpful.
So again, yards per carry
897
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,840
averages can be misleading.
Sometimes you take out the big
898
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,120
gainers, look at just, you know,
success rate on a, you know,
899
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,920
down by down basis.
Tech did a really good job
900
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,520
defensively.
Miranda, one thing you've got to
901
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,840
you feel we have to do better
moving forward.
902
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,040
Bryant said the word earlier and
I'm just going to steal it, but
903
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:45,240
bring the damn swagger.
Like not an not an official game
904
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:48,000
note, but like come out.
I don't even care.
905
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,200
Come out cocky.
It might bite us in the ass, but
906
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,560
get out there like you.
We do have the playmakers to be
907
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,520
cocky about.
Do what we do best.
908
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,080
Let's see what happens.
We've played this team.
909
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,640
This isn't a new team.
Like we don't have that excuse.
910
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,360
So we believe we're prepared,
right?
911
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,760
Run the ball.
That's right, run the ball.
912
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,680
That's our buddy coach Robbie
Compton, who's going to be in
913
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,640
the head coaching chair as his
head coach is going to be out
914
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,160
for six weeks with a foot
surgery.
915
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,280
So Robbie's going to be running
defense and running head coach
916
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,200
down in North Carolina high
school ball.
917
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,120
Robbie, godspeed.
I'm going to close this out real
918
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,920
quick and I'm going to steal
this Andy Bitter shout out.
919
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,920
I listened to Tech sideline the
other day.
920
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,920
Love those guys over there.
And he said it.
921
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,640
He's like we've got to establish
the identity.
922
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,040
And I mentioned to y'all in here
a little while ago and to a
923
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,200
couple other people.
When we established our identity
924
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,480
last year, Ali wasn't here,
Gosnell wasn't quite there yet.
925
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:54,560
Developmentally, we really
didn't have a tight end threat.
926
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,360
It was Kwan and it was Jay Lane
along with Tutor and drones.
927
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,120
RP OS.
We ran the ball, read options,
928
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,360
we ran, we got them set up.
We took shots, we found RP OS,
929
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,560
little post, little slants.
We've got to establish the
930
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,080
identity and this is the week
it's got to start.
931
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,760
Last year took the week five,
this year it's got to be at week
932
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,120
3 and I think that is going to
be what we said.
933
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,040
Put it back up there.
What Robbie said just a second
934
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,080
ago.
It starts with running the ball.
935
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,680
Run the ball.
Everything else will flow
936
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,840
downhill naturally.
Miranda, we appreciate you
937
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,080
coming on with us tonight.
Thanks for having me, that was
938
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,640
fun.
And we we thank you for joining
939
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,840
us because the honest truth,
it's awesome.
940
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,280
I I read the articles.
You were doing a fantastic job.
941
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,680
If y'all have not go to
boundarycornerbt.com.
942
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,720
Check out both of Miranda's
articles and little game recaps
943
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:53,760
with some little news notes, her
takes.
944
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,880
It's entertaining.
I'm going to say that it it
945
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,720
will.
Definitely keep.
946
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,400
I've got a style.
You definitely do.
947
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,920
But listen, you take care.
We will definitely have you back
948
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,560
on very shortly and appreciate
it.
949
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,120
Take care.
All your time with Gary.
950
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:11,160
Bye.
All righty.
951
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:16,240
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And tonight we actually have a
955
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special guest, one of the first
time we've ever done this.
956
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,760
So Brian, you've been talking
with our our guest tonight, so
957
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,040
I'll let you do the
introduction.
958
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,480
No problem, no problem.
So as you guys know, we are a
959
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,600
college huddle podcast here.
And one of the big benefits of
960
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,760
being a part of something like
that is that you get to
961
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,600
communicate with these other
podcasts throughout the country,
962
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,160
especially when you got common
opponents and things like that.
963
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,760
It's going to be a big boost for
us.
964
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,840
And one of the things we can do
is get a guy in here to talk
965
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,320
about a team like ODU that knows
them like the back of his hand,
966
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,920
just like we do Virginia Tech.
So we're going to welcome Gary
967
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,520
Williams on with the ODU
Monarchist.
968
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,280
Gary, how you doing tonight?
I'm doing great, thank you all
969
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,520
for having me on.
Appreciate you joining us
970
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,320
tonight, Gary, and taking a
little bit out of time.
971
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,240
Gary.
Also, we saw you are here in the
972
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:21,960
RVA with us.
So that's great to hear.
973
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,480
We got a lot of RVA podcasts
going on.
974
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,560
Just give us a little bit of
insight yourself how this
975
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,680
started with your your podcast
and what you do for fun.
976
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,560
Yeah, well, I graduated from ODU
in the spring of 2009, so I was
977
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,480
like just a couple months away
from football, restarting there
978
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,880
in the fall.
You know, I've been fully
979
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,000
involved with the team in some
capacity since then as a fan,
980
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,720
alumni, donor, all that good
stuff.
981
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,680
But there are our group ODU
Monarch is we started as a like
982
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,960
a Twitter DM group chat back in
2019.
983
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,480
And you know, 2019 for us, that
was the one in 11 season.
984
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,840
It was not a whole lot of fun.
So we're kind of looking for
985
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,040
people that were like, all
right, we know we're awful this
986
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,520
year.
We've got stuff to look forward
987
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,960
to, kind of like minded people
that trying to be a little more
988
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:13,320
positive about ODU football.
So it evolved from that to a
989
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,800
tailgate group.
And then in 2022 we launched a
990
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,400
podcast mainly just covering
football and men's basketball, a
991
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,720
couple of other things.
Now we are we have our website
992
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:25,440
as well, ODU monarchist.com.
So we pretty much cover every
993
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,680
sport at ODUA.
Couple different podcasts now,
994
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,560
including the official men's
basketball show for ODU.
995
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,760
We are big partners with the
Pride of ODUNIL Collective when
996
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,840
that came online.
So we do a lot of in person
997
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,840
events with them, podcast,
different things like that, just
998
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:46,960
doing everything we can to
promote ODU athletics, our our
999
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,320
student athletes.
Then the other wing of what we
1000
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,520
do is is really focused on
charities in the 757 every year,
1001
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,840
usually our last foot home
football game, we partner with
1002
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,320
the Marine Corps to do a Toys
for Tots drive.
1003
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,040
So each year we've exceeded our
goals there.
1004
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,200
The Marines bring out some like
armored personnel carriers that
1005
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,320
kids can play in and we fill it
up with toys.
1006
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,240
We get the F18 flyovers, all
that fun stuff.
1007
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:13,280
So just kind of looking to serve
the community and also, you
1008
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,600
know, taking care of what we
love, and that's Old Dominion
1009
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,880
athletics.
That's awesome, man.
1010
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,360
I'd love to hear that.
I'd love to hear how you're
1011
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,520
involved in the community, how
you kind of got a great
1012
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,960
relationship with the school
there.
1013
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,240
So it, you know, looks like you
guys are hitting it on all
1014
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,280
fronts.
So that congratulations on that
1015
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,440
and well done.
Yeah, Thank you.
1016
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,840
We're still trying to just grow
this thing as big as possible
1017
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,520
right now.
Send or reach a bit.
1018
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,080
Very nice year.
Good luck to y'all on that man.
1019
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,160
Obviously, both of us being a
part of the College Huddle
1020
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,160
Network, we wish y'all nothing
but the best.
1021
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,080
And obviously it's great to have
that chance to create these
1022
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,040
relationships where when our
teams play each other, we can
1023
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,200
get a little insight for the
other team.
1024
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,760
And let's start with that
tonight because I want to start
1025
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:59,640
with the ODU defense because
right now I got a feeling you're
1026
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,680
going to tell me things aren't
going great because from the
1027
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,160
look of it, you guys are one O 8
in rush defense.
1028
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,640
So give me a little background
and what we should expect from
1029
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,480
defensive coordinator brakes
liars 335 defense.
1030
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,560
And you know, what sort of
identity is he trying to
1031
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,960
establish with that look?
Yeah, well, defense is actually
1032
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,640
the stronger side of the ball
right now.
1033
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,760
I know they're they're lower in
those rankings.
1034
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,080
We played at South Carolina,
played against East Carolina and
1035
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,560
a lot of the points that the
defense has given up is because
1036
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,680
they're on the field so much.
Last weekend against East
1037
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,840
Carolina was really like our
almost almost most even time of
1038
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,880
possession game.
But you go look at South
1039
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,200
Carolina, some of the games last
year, our defense is on the
1040
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,720
field for 3839 minutes a game.
So fourth quarter, getting
1041
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:49,720
gassed a little bit, but you're
going to see some 335, you're
1042
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,920
going to see some 326, You're
going to see some funky looking
1043
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,920
nickel coverages, 3 safety
packages.
1044
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,240
You're going to see a lot out of
the defense.
1045
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,720
You probably won't see the same
look twice either up front or
1046
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:04,240
back in the secondary.
When Blake Tyler originally came
1047
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,960
to ODU, we actually ran a 425.
We're actually in pretty good
1048
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,480
shape with that.
We kind of have adjusted based
1049
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,000
on personnel, but you're going
to see a lot of blitzes from a
1050
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,320
lot of different places.
We blitz a lot, whether it's
1051
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,800
from one of the linebackers,
safeties, corners.
1052
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,320
We try to vary it up quite a bit
now.
1053
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,480
South Carolina ran the ball
pretty well against us.
1054
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,600
If you look at the total yards,
they're still around like 3.1
1055
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,760
yards per carry.
We did probably our best job
1056
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,200
defensively stopping their kind
of power run, power option
1057
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,400
looks.
I think they went into that game
1058
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,440
saying we're in the SEC, we're
bigger than you in the trenches
1059
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,320
and we're just going to run all
over you.
1060
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,680
They were doing OK with that,
but we were able to kind of get
1061
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,800
a lot of stops on on 3rd down
South.
1062
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,360
You know, both of the touchdowns
South Carolina scored were off
1063
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,320
of fumbles and they started
inside our 10 yard line.
1064
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,160
So we're we're kind of going
into Saturday thinking we
1065
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,400
probably should be two and O, we
just shot ourselves in the foot
1066
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,240
way too much.
All right.
1067
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,000
So that that's that's a good
amount of confidence and I can
1068
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,520
appreciate that.
And and, you know, as a team
1069
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,760
that's coming off playing a
Marshall team that was really
1070
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,240
good up front, even if they were
a little weaker on the back end.
1071
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,200
Yeah, telling us that that you
were going to have some blitzes
1072
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,800
and struggling with some blitz
pick up.
1073
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,040
That's definitely something we
got to keep our eye on because
1074
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,440
we've struggled with that so
far.
1075
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,440
So we're we're we're talking
about, you know, what you do.
1076
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,720
Let's talk about who does it.
What are some of the playmakers
1077
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,440
on this defense?
Yeah, there's a there's quite a
1078
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,240
few that have stood out early in
the season for us.
1079
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,160
Cohen, no Itala, he is filled in
at linebacker a lot for Jason
1080
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,440
Henderson, who's not fully back
yet.
1081
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,520
I think he had 18 tackles on
Saturday against East Carolina.
1082
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,360
You won't you won't be able to
miss him if he's on the field.
1083
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,040
He has a nice Troy Palomalu flow
coming out the back of that
1084
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,400
thing.
But he's usually a weak side
1085
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,120
linebacker in the 335 or the
326.
1086
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,280
He's he's on that side.
Jeron Manning, JUCO transfer
1087
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,400
that came in this year.
He's back at safety.
1088
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,720
He's usually one of the three
safeties that's back there.
1089
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,360
He is probably our our best guy
in the secondary.
1090
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,400
He can do it all.
He's a bigger safety so he can
1091
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,760
come up and run support, grading
coverage.
1092
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,480
Had two interceptions against
East Carolina on Saturday.
1093
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,960
He's a ball hawk.
He he runs fast and he hits
1094
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,640
very, very hard.
So those are two guys to look
1095
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,240
at.
I know everyone probably wants
1096
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:32,640
to hear about Jason Henderson.
He tore his ACL with about three
1097
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,680
games left to go in the season.
Tried to make a go of it in the
1098
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,240
South Carolina game, but you
could clearly see he was he was
1099
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,680
dragging that leg.
I mean, he's not a super tall
1100
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,680
guy, but he's really well built
and you can actually like see
1101
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,480
the size difference in his legs
from where he's been recovering.
1102
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,880
So he did not play against East
Carolina.
1103
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,320
Don't know if he's going to play
on Saturday.
1104
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,080
I would be surprised.
I think with us having a bye
1105
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,880
week and then going to Bowling
Green, we're probably trying to
1106
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,240
take care of him the best we can
because he's likely to get
1107
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,920
drafted.
But also like we're our, our
1108
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,760
focus is really going to be on
winning Sunbelt games and try to
1109
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,800
get in the Sunbelt championship
game at this point.
1110
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,520
So you know, he's not likely to
see him, but I'm sure you
1111
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,040
remember from a couple years ago
when he was a little bit younger
1112
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,720
out there at linebacker and he's
just, he's a high motor guy.
1113
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,040
He's the heart and soul of the
defense.
1114
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,360
But they've done a really good
job in his absence.
1115
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,880
Yeah, obviously our, our, this
is our, this is our other Co
1116
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,640
host Jonathan Talley, who's a
little under the weather
1117
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,280
tonight.
He is right.
1118
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,480
Henderson is a stud and from our
vantage point, we're the
1119
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,200
opposite of you.
We hope we don't see him
1120
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,680
Saturday at all.
Let me throw one other guy out
1121
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,320
there that kind of caught our
eye.
1122
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,080
Give us a little insight on
Mario Thompson.
1123
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,080
Mario Thompson, obviously, you
know, he's a local kid to us
1124
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,760
here in Richmond, Went out,
played Trinity, you know, Three
1125
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,640
Star when he came out a couple
years ago.
1126
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,240
Where do we see him on the
defense?
1127
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,000
Because I know he's considered a
linebacker, but where's he
1128
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,120
playing exactly?
Yeah, you'll, you'll see him at
1129
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,720
linebacker when we have 3
linebacker sets out there.
1130
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,120
A lot of times if we're running
kind of that 326, he is the
1131
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,640
third safety that is on the
field, like technically at
1132
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,880
safety.
So you'll see him line up all
1133
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,760
over.
I mean, he got a lot of playing
1134
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,480
time against East Carolina with
Jason Henderson out and he he
1135
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,120
played really, really well.
I think he was second on the
1136
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,720
team in tackles.
I saw him line up with a hand in
1137
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,800
the dirt outside of the
defensive end.
1138
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,400
I saw him middle linebacker and
I saw him basically at the
1139
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,720
sticks 12 yards down the field
on 1/3 and long.
1140
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,280
So he's going to be everywhere.
I think his speed and
1141
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,400
athleticism and being a little
bit leaner than maybe your
1142
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,240
prototypical linebacker, he's
paid some dividends for him.
1143
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,360
He had some great stops in the
game against South Carolina.
1144
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,120
I don't think their quarterback
wants to see Old Dominion again
1145
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,560
because Mario Thompson was in
his face on a lot of those kind
1146
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,760
of boundary type runs and quick
pops and things like that.
1147
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,080
But yeah, he's, I mean, he's
young, he's still developing.
1148
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,840
He hasn't had a ton of playing
time yet.
1149
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,280
But our line backing position
group is without a doubt the
1150
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,840
strength of our team.
I mean, we were missing Jason
1151
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,360
Henderson.
He was kind of on one leg for
1152
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,720
the first game and they were
still our strongest unit.
1153
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,080
So lot to like about him.
KOA EJ Green, who's in the
1154
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,360
second year with us after
transferring him from Duke.
1155
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,280
We we have some dudes at
linebacker and rotate them very,
1156
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,160
very often.
All right.
1157
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,760
So you talked about that
strength.
1158
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,680
Were you going to say Curtis?
I will say I was on AC Bates
1159
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,560
here, Shelton, you didn't have
anything data was that was.
1160
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,000
That you wanted to No, I got I
got a couple in the offense, but
1161
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,880
you can.
Got it, he says.
1162
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,320
He's got his offense and.
Stuff together since we're
1163
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,480
keeping it moving.
You know, you talked about the
1164
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,880
strength of that defense.
Where are some of the areas of
1165
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,640
weakness on the defense?
And like So what?
1166
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,240
Which which area has you most
concerned heading into this game
1167
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,880
on Saturday?
Well, I think the three man
1168
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,200
front is kind of the weakness
for us when they don't have
1169
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,000
someone blitzing in running
blaze and things like that.
1170
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,240
They do fine.
But we saw it in South Carolina,
1171
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,880
saw it a lot against East
Carolina.
1172
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,960
Third and 10 plus we're dropping
8.
1173
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,040
We're rushing 3.
The quarterbacks back there
1174
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,800
baking the cake, doing his
taxes, plenty of time for the
1175
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,520
routes to progress and converted
all but one first down on 3rd
1176
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,040
down when we dropped eight in
coverage when we blitzed, they
1177
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,760
only converted one for the whole
game.
1178
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,600
So I think it's more from a play
calling standpoint of if, if
1179
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,560
we're in 3rd and long, we have
to blitz otherwise we're not
1180
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,000
going to be successful.
They're they're that defense is
1181
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,200
at its best when it's very, very
aggressive and blitzing a lot
1182
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,240
may get a get burned every now
and then.
1183
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,560
We got burned on two runs
against East Carolina with it.
1184
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:36,440
But sending 3 and dropping 8 is
basically my nightmare when I
1185
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,440
see it unfold on the field and
I'm just ducking my head until I
1186
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,880
hear a whistle and I'm hoping
it's not because someone's in
1187
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,920
the end zone.
So you're you're not getting
1188
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,440
home with three very often then?
No, no, you're three on five,
1189
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,920
especially if they're SEC East
Carolina had a great front 7.
1190
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,120
And I know Tech's defensive
front is really, really tough
1191
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,760
too.
So our offensive front is is
1192
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,240
pretty tough.
So yeah, three minute front's
1193
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:00,760
not going to get it done.
We got at least send one
1194
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,320
linebacker to make things spicy.
Now let me ask this because with
1195
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,720
that 35 do y'all have a true
nose or are y'all playing more
1196
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,360
of like what is it Brian?
Probably like a 2 shade eye
1197
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,720
trying to make it off like off
centered inside there.
1198
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,320
Yeah, we're, we're usually off
center.
1199
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,920
We don't necessarily have a true
nose tackle.
1200
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,960
You know, Denzel Lowry is
probably that guy.
1201
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,920
Where's #8 up the middle.
He's had some pretty good
1202
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,800
success there.
But typically we are shading to
1203
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,400
one side or the other because
usually someone's either firing
1204
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,920
from a gap or firing from the
outside, from the linebacker,
1205
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,840
the secondary.
So we're trying to create the
1206
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,960
that leverage on the offensive
line.
1207
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,480
Yeah, usually that's more of a
one gap, even though it's a
1208
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,200
three man front, it's usually
one gap versus A2 gap with the
1209
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,600
335 S.
Most of the time there's going
1210
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:55,440
to be a shade situation there.
But yeah, so I mean, I mean,
1211
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,240
that kind of wraps up what we
want to talk about on the
1212
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,160
defense.
I appreciate that, Gary.
1213
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,200
Let's flip it over to the
offense.
1214
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,240
You got offensive coordinator
Kevin Decker running that up
1215
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,920
tempo offense.
What can we expect from that
1216
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,000
offense and kind of what are
some of the bread and butter
1217
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,000
calls in that offense?
The offense is a bit of a
1218
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,360
dumpster fire right now.
They have been terrible in the
1219
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,800
first two games.
Even though it's a good
1220
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,360
competition, we're just not not
doing the right things back
1221
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,200
there.
It is a very up tempo offense.
1222
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,640
You will not see us huddle when
a play is over.
1223
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,920
We're going to the line
immediately and if you're not
1224
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,360
set, if you got the wrong
personnel, we're going to snap
1225
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,240
it with 3536 seconds on the play
clock and go.
1226
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,920
If you don't like the look, then
we'll kind of back off and snap
1227
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,960
it around about 25 seconds.
So a lot of plays it's going to
1228
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,480
move quickly.
This is basically the same
1229
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,200
offense that they run at
Tennessee right now under Josh
1230
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,200
Heipol.
It's very much a spread.
1231
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,560
You will we will have a receiver
on both sides of the field
1232
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,520
outside the number on pretty
much every play.
1233
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,440
We're we're going to make you
defend the the whole width of
1234
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,360
the field there.
But really, truly it's a running
1235
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,920
offense because the idea is to
spread them out, get mismatches
1236
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,040
and leverage up front and be
able to run the football.
1237
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:15,200
That's when we were at our best
last year is when, you know, we
1238
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,360
were, we were able to do those
things and move the ball down
1239
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,200
the field.
I, I don't feel like the offense
1240
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,120
has ever fully clicked and I
don't know if that's personnel
1241
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,200
or what it is.
We have a lot of problems up
1242
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:29,120
front in our offensive line as
well, but when it clicks, it
1243
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,760
goes fast.
I mean we're talking 3 plays, 75
1244
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,680
yards, 22 seconds have come off
the clock and it's a touchdown.
1245
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,640
We'll go 3 and out the next 6
drives and you're always just
1246
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,360
waiting for like that one big
chunk play that's going to bust
1247
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,120
it open.
That's why I feel like we've
1248
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,440
been in so many one possession
games because the defense has
1249
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,040
been strong and the offense hits
those big plays every now and
1250
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,600
then to just keep us right in
the game.
1251
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,520
I think you asked about bread
and butter calls, ton of RPO
1252
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,320
looks, a lot of RPO alerts.
So you truly have the the run
1253
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,720
pass option there.
You're gonna see a lot of
1254
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:08,320
interesting delayed routes on
the outside where we run.
1255
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,240
We usually run like stacks.
So for four Y, we've got 2
1256
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,320
receivers, cleat de cleat on the
outside the numbers.
1257
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,360
So you're going to see a lot of
funny things with that where it
1258
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,320
looks like a screen and then
it's slant and then it's go and
1259
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,920
the other guys running kind of a
wheel route.
1260
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,840
I had some really weird route
combos that happened out there.
1261
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,560
So we run a lot of that.
Where we've been struggling
1262
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,520
right now is we have no short
intermediate passing game over
1263
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,360
the middle.
So East Carolina, they put six
1264
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,360
in the box even when we had four
wide.
1265
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,680
They just trusted their single
coverage and that they would get
1266
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,360
home to get pressure before the
ball could get out.
1267
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,040
And that's what they did to us
all night.
1268
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,480
And it killed us in the running
game from that that way because
1269
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,400
we were outnumbered.
And then it killed us in the
1270
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,840
passing game because the online
cannot hold up the pass block.
1271
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,640
I imagine we're going to come
with a very similar road map
1272
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,480
because that, that's what we
like to do anyway.
1273
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,440
And that kind of plays a little
bit into, into what we do well.
1274
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,160
So I, I expect a lot of that on
our side, trying to play as much
1275
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,840
man as possible, trying to get
after the quarterback as much as
1276
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,680
possible.
And, and we'll, we'll we'll
1277
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,760
hopefully hold up in the in the
rushing attack and, and keep
1278
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:14,320
that in check.
But yeah, so you, you got the
1279
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,359
bread and butter.
Shelton, do you have anything on
1280
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,920
on the offense as far as the
team is concerned that you
1281
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,080
wanted to throw in here?
Yeah, so, so I was looking at
1282
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,120
the the stats for Grant Wilson
at quarterback.
1283
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:26,800
It's kind of funny you mentioned
the the lack of the intermediate
1284
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,840
passing game.
You know, statistically ODU
1285
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,600
doesn't throw deep a ton.
They do go over over the middle
1286
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,000
a lot.
And and those intermediate
1287
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,680
throws are just not being very
efficient with them.
1288
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:39,240
So I assume, you know, that's
kind of a kind of a major
1289
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,720
problem.
But for Wilson, you know, he had
1290
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,560
a pretty decent game against BT
last year from what I recall,
1291
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,000
PFS stats not great, not very
kind to him so far, kind of
1292
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,920
right around right around 43,
which is, which is rough.
1293
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,000
And he's also been pressured 30
times, which is the most among
1294
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,600
all Group of Five quarterbacks
thus far.
1295
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:03,160
So I guess I'd ask you what have
been the weak spots for him this
1296
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,640
year And and do you think the O
line has maybe made things a
1297
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:06,920
little bit more difficult for
him?
1298
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,359
The other line's definitely been
a problem, just protection in
1299
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:12,319
general mixed with some play
calling.
1300
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,240
A lot of our routes that are
even intermediate and deep are
1301
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,640
longer developing routes.
They're keying off another
1302
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,080
receiver, sometimes their choice
routes, things like that.
1303
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,439
So he has been under pressure a
ton, he has been flushed from
1304
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,120
the pocket a ton.
And really like our our short
1305
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,560
game that we've hit is usually
like quick curls, quick hitches
1306
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,120
to the outside, kind of some
tunnel screen action too.
1307
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,240
That's where we've been like,
that's our short game for the
1308
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,479
most part.
We do run a ton of deep
1309
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,080
crossers.
So you'll see you guys come from
1310
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,520
the outside, the numbers all the
way, the numbers on the other
1311
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,200
side.
You know, I think Grant, he had
1312
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,399
fumble problems at South
Carolina.
1313
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,600
Both of the fumbles that were
there were the ones inside our
1314
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,680
own 10 that led to those
touchdowns and really why we
1315
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,280
lost that game.
He was a little bit better
1316
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,600
protecting the ball I think
against East Carolina, but
1317
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,040
almost more of not risking
throws, which is problematic in
1318
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,600
our offense.
You need to take those deep
1319
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,280
shots when you get them.
But really like all all the
1320
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,600
difficulties he's having stem
from the offensive line we
1321
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,680
faced. 2 good ones for sure.
Kyle Kennard at South Carolina
1322
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,520
is one of the best edge rushers
I've ever seen in person in my
1323
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,400
life.
I mean, he was blown past the
1324
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:23,920
left tackle like he was standing
still.
1325
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,280
But we, we've got to clean up
that pass protection because he
1326
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,000
just, he, he is getting pushed
out of the pocket in under 2
1327
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,440
seconds in most spots.
So he's not even on 2nd read
1328
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:39,120
before that happens.
But his status for Saturday is
1329
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,400
actually very, very much in the
air right now.
1330
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,520
Yeah, we were reading about
that.
1331
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,760
Are we expected if he can't go,
are we going to see Colton
1332
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,800
Joseph or are we going to see
somebody else further down the
1333
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,240
depth chart?
I got a tiptoe around this one
1334
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,080
because I know the answer and
I'm not telling it.
1335
01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,480
There we go.
OK.
1336
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,200
I respect that.
I'll give you a rundown of who's
1337
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,040
behind Grant.
So Colton Joseph red shirt
1338
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:10,000
freshman is from California dual
threat guy, a little bit bigger
1339
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,600
than grant big arm ton of
confidence we've seen in in
1340
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,000
spring ball hasn't looked great,
hasn't looked great in practice,
1341
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,320
especially with past accuracy
and decision making, which this
1342
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,800
offense is very much all right.
I've got to know what choice my
1343
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,560
receiver's going to take because
they have 3.
1344
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,000
So you have to be In Sync with
your receivers and know your
1345
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,840
timing.
He has not played in a game for
1346
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,440
us at all.
Who if if it's not Grant, it
1347
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:38,360
will be someone who has not
taken an FBS snap in at least
1348
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,920
two years.
So got that I've got Quinn
1349
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,080
Hennikle is a true freshman.
He just joined the team in
1350
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,880
summer camp.
Probably not likely to play, but
1351
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,560
he's like if you clone Grant
Wilson, they look the same.
1352
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,800
They got the same bill, they
move the same on the field, they
1353
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,080
run the same style of offenses
and things like that.
1354
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,040
He's an option.
And then Emmett Morehead, who
1355
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,560
was a transfer of this offseason
from Boston College.
1356
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,520
Emmett played some at BC, got
hurt and didn't play much after
1357
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,720
that.
Both of the all three of these
1358
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,960
guys are are dual threats.
Colton Joseph is probably the
1359
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,880
faster of the group.
He kind of runs like a deer and
1360
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,800
he is a lot stronger than he
looks.
1361
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,520
So if you're a, a corner that's
165 lbs and you go for the big
1362
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,560
hit on him, might wake up
looking for your mouthpiece
1363
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,760
because he's a he's a big boy.
So you'll have to wait and see
1364
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:31,040
when the first offense comes out
who is in at quarterback because
1365
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,200
I I will not be not be the one
to let that cat out of the bag.
1366
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,560
I can appreciate that, Curtis,
what you got?
1367
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,200
Well, we'll know it's six O
clock.
1368
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,480
Let's talk a little bit about
y'all's running game.
1369
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:45,720
Obviously it it's been a little
bit of a struggle this year, but
1370
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,760
it looks like you guys are
leaning pretty heavy on Aaron
1371
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,000
Young, who's leading the team in
Russian.
1372
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,160
And how's Bryce Duke going?
That's a former Hokie that
1373
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,240
transferred to ODU this
offseason.
1374
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,680
How much PT is he getting?
And you know, just a little bit
1375
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,960
about the running backroom.
Yeah, well, I'll start and stay
1376
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,960
on the injury theme.
Devin Roche was really slated to
1377
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,560
be our top running back.
We were going to rotate a lot of
1378
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,600
guys, but he was he was the bell
cow.
1379
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,360
He is the elusive back, super
fast.
1380
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,080
You will lose him in a crowd and
then he's in the end zone.
1381
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,440
He's super quick.
He got a nice welcoming down
1382
01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:22,200
there in Columbia on the opening
kick off.
1383
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,760
Some guy just tried to go can
opener on his on his shoe with
1384
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,760
his foot still in it.
So he has not touched the field
1385
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,600
since then.
Don't know his status for
1386
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,040
Saturday, but imagine similar to
Jason Henderson by week coming
1387
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,760
up at Bowling Green.
Probably not likely.
1388
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,200
So Aaron Young is has carried
the bulk of it.
1389
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,360
He he can be elusive as well.
He's a little bit more of a
1390
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,160
power runner.
They run a lot of inside zone
1391
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,880
with him, a lot of inside zone
counters with some some pulling
1392
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,560
tackles and we're able to do
that hard nosed runner.
1393
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,560
We've seen him take some snaps
in the Wildcat, some of our goal
1394
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,040
line sets.
He's been doing great.
1395
01:13:57,480 --> 01:13:59,480
Bryce Duke, I've talked to him a
time.
1396
01:13:59,480 --> 01:14:02,120
I think I talked to him like a
week after he committed to ODU
1397
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,920
and and interviewed him.
That's actually on our our
1398
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,720
YouTube channel for ODU
monarchist.
1399
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,520
He's gotten some playing time,
hasn't found a lot of success
1400
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,920
yet.
He had a he had a rough fumble
1401
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:17,120
on a a kick return against East
Carolina that that hurt us on
1402
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,520
Saturday.
But I think he's just still
1403
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,880
getting a feel for this offense
and trying to figure out the O
1404
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,800
line in front of them, which I'd
say everyone's trying to figure
1405
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,040
that out right now.
But I think where he's going to
1406
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,440
be most useful for us is when
he's lined up at running back
1407
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:35,640
and then goes out to the slot.
Able to do a lot of stuff in the
1408
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:40,640
short passing game here too.
Yeah, he definitely had some
1409
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,960
success with us in the passing
game, whether it's like a pop
1410
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,160
pass or or stuff like that where
we could get him the ball in
1411
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,800
space between the hashes and let
him do some damage there.
1412
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,720
So he's definitely a threat from
that standpoint.
1413
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,600
Before we flip it over, Shelton,
do you have anything else on the
1414
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,840
running game for for OD you want
to throw in here?
1415
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:05,520
Not too much.
I know they're they're per rush
1416
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,840
averages aren't great Duke
around 1 and young around 3.6.
1417
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:14,040
So yeah, I mean, we just know
it's you know, they haven't done
1418
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:15,840
much on the ground this year.
Again, small sample size
1419
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,800
strength this casual.
You played a really good South
1420
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,080
Carolina team, or at least what
I think is a solid South
1421
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,800
Carolina team.
So I was going to have to kind
1422
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,480
of wait and see how the rest of
the season plays out.
1423
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,120
All right, so let's move it
outside.
1424
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,480
I know you've already talked a
little bit about what they do
1425
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:33,640
from a receiver standpoint.
A lot of choice routes.
1426
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,360
Some of those you know, delay
routes, who are the guys that
1427
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,440
are catching the passes out
there outside the hashes.
1428
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,600
Yeah, Deonte Vines is probably
the first one that comes to
1429
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,560
mind.
He's transferred in from Iowa
1430
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,400
last year and we may already
have more offense than Iowa had
1431
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,040
all of last season.
Even though we've been off
1432
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,440
awful.
He's he's getting to stretch his
1433
01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:56,200
legs a little bit with us.
He is, as of summer camp, the
1434
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,520
fastest player on our team,
which is impressive because one
1435
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,120
of our other wide receivers was
a track star at South Carolina
1436
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,680
before coming here and and
playing football.
1437
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,200
He does a great job of getting
in space.
1438
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:12,240
I think he's probably the best
on in our receiving corps of
1439
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,000
being able to read defenses and
make the best decisions in his
1440
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,320
choice routes so far.
So he's definitely one that to,
1441
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,720
to watch out for there.
Isaiah Page, he's been with our
1442
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:27,040
program for quite a while.
Small, he's like 5657 small,
1443
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,920
small guy, but man, he is fast
and he is elusive.
1444
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,040
Like if, if you're not in front
of him, he's he's blowing past
1445
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,520
you.
He had a, a big game against
1446
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,920
South Carolina.
I kind of, you know, we, we took
1447
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,560
the, we got the opening kick off
in that game.
1448
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,160
We ran 2 plays, fumble at the
seven and then South Carolina
1449
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,200
scored on 3rd and goal.
So you can just feel the
1450
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,240
momentum just fall right out of
it.
1451
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,600
We get to kick off first play,
Isaiah Page busts his corner,
1452
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,200
corner falls down and he just
goes for like an 80 yard or 75
1453
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,920
yard touchdown pass.
So he has that big play
1454
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,040
potential.
He is also a brave soul because
1455
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,000
he's the one that will stand all
the way on the other side of the
1456
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,320
field and catch a screen pass
without looking at the
1457
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:07,800
cornerback screaming down on
him.
1458
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,000
So tough guy.
He was a little banged up at
1459
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,960
South Carolina.
He played the full game when we
1460
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,680
had E come to Norfolk, so I
really like him, but Kelby
1461
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,600
Williams played a good bit for
us last year.
1462
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,960
He's going to be more of your
your far outside receiver.
1463
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:27,720
I think he only had two snaps in
the East Carolina game and one
1464
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,280
was a a touchdown pass on kind
of a busted play and he just
1465
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,800
kept going on his deep crosser
and was wide open.
1466
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,240
So a lot of guys there, no one's
really stepped up to be the
1467
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,600
number one.
Like we don't have the Ollie
1468
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,400
Jennings anymore.
He would be like the clear
1469
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,840
number one guy.
But I think that actually makes
1470
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,960
us a little more dangerous in
the way we run our offense
1471
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,960
because you can't just say top
corner on top receiver and shut
1472
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,680
it down.
Makes us a little bit more
1473
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:54,440
dynamic in the receiving core.
All right.
1474
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,280
Well, that, that's good stuff.
Let's talk about some of those
1475
01:17:58,280 --> 01:17:59,760
areas of weakness.
And I think you've already
1476
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,920
really highlighted this pretty,
pretty good, but talk a little
1477
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,920
bit about what you see going
wrong with that offensive line
1478
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,440
and what's maybe holding that
offense back from taking that
1479
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:11,880
step?
Yeah, well we plugged in a lot
1480
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,400
of new guys on the offensive
line.
1481
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,920
We have 3 new starters there.
The one you want to watch out
1482
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,080
for the most are left guard Zach
Barlev was a transfer in from
1483
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,080
Illinois.
Great guy.
1484
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,400
Like if you think of Midwestern
offensive lineman, like he is
1485
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:31,440
the the stereotype to AT super
nice but mean as hell when he's
1486
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:33,640
on the field.
So we've had problems that left
1487
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,840
tackle with basically just not
having the footwork and the
1488
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,080
speed to take care of an edge,
not being able to identify
1489
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,720
stunts that are that are
breaking back to the inside.
1490
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,360
I had some issues at right
guard, but I think we've we've
1491
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,280
shored those up with the new
person plugging in there.
1492
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,040
I doubt you're going to see the
same old line that we saw at
1493
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,640
East Carolina or South Carolina.
I think there's some some
1494
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,000
changes that have been made
there.
1495
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,880
So you're going to have more new
on the field.
1496
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,520
So I'm glad this game is in
Norfolk and not Blacksburg so
1497
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,920
they can actually have a
conversation with each other.
1498
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:05,440
Yeah.
Like they're they're getting
1499
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:07,760
beat on the outside.
And when we adjust to kind of
1500
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,560
protect, all right, we're not
going to let the edges beat us
1501
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,520
around the corner again.
They come with a blitz right up
1502
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,680
the middle and blaster center
right off the ball.
1503
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,200
So just really in in the past
protection, they're struggling.
1504
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,640
We should have run the ball
better against East Carolina,
1505
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,720
but we didn't have a single
situation on the inside zone
1506
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,960
where the the running back
actually bounced it to the
1507
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,320
outside.
We should know to do that
1508
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,080
because East Carolina did that
exact play to us twice for two
1509
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,920
of their touchdown runs.
But everything was just a gap, a
1510
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,440
gap, a gap all day.
And it was driving us bananas
1511
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:41,080
sitting in the end zone watching
it and seeing it all kind of
1512
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,560
unfold in front of us.
So there's that.
1513
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,320
And then just the the route
concepts being called are not
1514
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,760
matching the pressure that we're
getting.
1515
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,480
You know, the easiest way to
beat a blitz is to throw the
1516
01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:52,320
receivers in the vacated area,
right?
1517
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,960
We didn't do that once even
though ECU was totally fine
1518
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,720
showing us exactly what they
were going to do on defense.
1519
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,440
So offensive line and our
offensive line protection
1520
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:05,800
problems are causing receiving
problems and vice versa.
1521
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,520
So hopefully they're getting
that worked out this week,
1522
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,760
potentially with a new
quarterback.
1523
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,200
So that's a whole new wrinkle to
this.
1524
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,760
I'm sure we'll see some new
stuff, but.
1525
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,120
Yeah, potentially out starting
quarterback, potentially out
1526
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,360
starting running back.
Our our top tight end who is
1527
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,840
like the go juice for our
running game who kind of does a
1528
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,560
lot to clear holes for us.
He hasn't played a snap yet this
1529
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:29,920
season.
I doubt he's going to be back on
1530
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,280
Saturday.
So we've got a ��300 offensive
1531
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,080
lineman, occasionally we're an
83 and line up at tight end if
1532
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:37,240
you want to see something real
fun all.
1533
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,280
Right.
I do love seeing big boys
1534
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,800
outside so I I hope we see at
least a little bit of that.
1535
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,080
Always fun to hear that.
All right, one last question
1536
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,640
before we let you get out of
here, Gary.
1537
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,360
Again, check out Gary ODU
Monarchist.
1538
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,880
I'm sure they've got a great
preview episode for the Hokie.
1539
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,560
So if you want to wonder what
the ODU fan is thinking about
1540
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,040
our Hokies, check out Gary's
podcast over on College Huddle
1541
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:04,640
Network.
What ingredients could lead to
1542
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:09,080
another Monarcho upset of the
visiting Hokie Hokies this
1543
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,280
Saturday?
Well you already know there's
1544
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,000
some voodoo sprinkled in Norfolk
when y'all come to town.
1545
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,720
Like, weird stuff happens, you
get weird games, you get a guy
1546
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,280
who's now a pastor throw for
like 500 yards.
1547
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,440
Elevators.
Breakdown elevators.
1548
01:21:22,440 --> 01:21:25,440
Breakdown.
Yeah, let let me just comment on
1549
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:27,680
that.
If you understand what the
1550
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,120
weight limits are in an
elevator, that will not happen
1551
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,160
to you.
All right.
1552
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,600
Believe it that I I think for
ODU on the field, the defense is
1553
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,440
going to need to repeat the
performances they had against
1554
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:43,240
South Carolina.
You all run somewhat similar
1555
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,360
offenses with a little bit
better you.
1556
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:48,160
You all have the better
quarterback at that position.
1557
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,000
So we need to repeat performance
of that to let our defense keep
1558
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,080
us in the game.
Offense has to either hit two to
1559
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,240
three big shots down the field
for touchdowns or actually
1560
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,200
develop a short intermediate
passing game.
1561
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,040
If we do one of those two things
on offense, I think we're back
1562
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,600
in, we'll be in our, our 14th 1
score game of our last 16 games.
1563
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,320
So we'll, I think that'll keep
us in it.
1564
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,000
So just keep playing tight
defense and at some point the
1565
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,360
offense has to click with
whoever is going to be under
1566
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,480
center.
But that, that's kind of the,
1567
01:22:17,480 --> 01:22:19,520
the key thing.
And you know, weird special
1568
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,280
teams play would would help as
well.
1569
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,000
Oh no, you'll never get those
down there.
1570
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:28,000
Yeah, let's not snap another one
to Williamsburg this time,
1571
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,840
please.
Oh my gosh.
1572
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,800
That had some distance on it, I
will say.
1573
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,120
Worst snap of that, actually,
I'm going to go back.
1574
01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:37,640
That might be the worst snap
I've ever seen in my life.
1575
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,160
I I feel like my kids play in
the court in my cul-de-sac here.
1576
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,440
I've seen them snap the ball
better than that one.
1577
01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:47,400
And Brian, me and you, we threw
things in this.
1578
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,600
This is my man cave.
We threw things when that
1579
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,360
happened two years ago in this
very room.
1580
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,320
So.
Yeah, I I still couldn't believe
1581
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:56,600
it.
Like that's, that's the farthest
1582
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,960
I've seen the snap go.
So like now I know how far along
1583
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,920
snapper can actually snap the
ball down the field.
1584
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,080
It's not caught.
There you go.
1585
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,840
Appreciate you coming on with us
tonight, Gary.
1586
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,960
Like I said, go ahead and shout
out your your socials.
1587
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,360
Go ahead and shout out your your
website and let the folks know
1588
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,880
where they can catch you.
Yep, at ODU Monarchist for
1589
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,400
pretty much all of our social
handles, ODU monarchist.com.
1590
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,960
Come take a look there.
We've got a lot of interesting
1591
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,200
stuff there, some good previews.
We'll have some other stuff
1592
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,080
coming out on there as well
leading up to game day.
1593
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,840
But appreciate you all having me
on.
1594
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,920
It was a lot of fun.
Are any of you coming down to
1595
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,200
Norfolk this weekend?
We will not be there this
1596
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,160
weekend, but we're hoping for
good things for the Hokies.
1597
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,760
We've got to got to get that
monkey off our back at some
1598
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,640
point down there in Norfolk.
100% appreciate it, Gary.
1599
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,040
Yeah.
Thank you all so much.
1600
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,840
Thank you.
All right, again, we appreciate
1601
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,200
Gary taking a little time out of
his evening to join us, give a
1602
01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:00,280
little bit more insight on the
ODU monarchs.
1603
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,480
Again, check him out.
Check that out.
1604
01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:04,280
Siegel went over there a little
earlier this week.
1605
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,000
I've had a little conversation
with them.
1606
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,280
Correct, Sir.
No, no.
1607
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:10,360
You didn't.
I thought you were you supposed
1608
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,600
to.
We we, we were talking, but we
1609
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,160
never, we never got.
Going we'll still go listen to
1610
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,760
those guys because clearly I
I'll give Gary all credit here,
1611
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,880
man, looks like Gary knows his
stuff.
1612
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,720
Very focused.
So probably got a got a lot of
1613
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,640
breakdowns of what they're
looking at with the potential
1614
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,520
with the potential of what could
happen to them with the Hokies
1615
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,320
coming to town.
So again, thanks Gary for that.
1616
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,800
And now, boys, let's flip it
over.
1617
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:37,080
We got to talk about the Hokie
keys and Shelton.
1618
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,400
What is some of your keys to a
Hokie's victory this week?
1619
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,960
Yeah, well, I thought about this
question earlier today.
1620
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,560
I feel like it'd be the most
cliche thing ever to say good up
1621
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,920
to a good start, but I guess it
applies.
1622
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,720
I'll say, I'll say this.
I'll say I want to see this team
1623
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,640
dominate the line of scrimmage.
I mean, we've seen through two
1624
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,600
games now.
You know, they didn't they
1625
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,480
didn't dominate the line of
scrimmage against Vanderbilt.
1626
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,520
They did for one, but not the
first half.
1627
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,920
You know, I just think I want to
see them just, you know, come
1628
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,080
out and punch, punch.
Oh, do you right in the nose.
1629
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:12,040
You know, I, I think, you know,
if, if Tech is, you know, in a
1630
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,480
dog fight with a team like, you
know, 10-7 after the first
1631
01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:18,680
quarter or 1710 at halftime,
like I'm, I'm not going to feel
1632
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,760
great.
Like I think I, I think how you,
1633
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,520
how you look matters even, even
if you win.
1634
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,280
And I just, I want to see this
team really dominate.
1635
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,040
I have a stretch where, you
know, you score 2-3 touchdowns
1636
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,920
in a span of 1/4 and you know,
you shut up the other team.
1637
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,160
Like we just, we haven't seen
this team really dominate and
1638
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:40,480
just bludgeon their opposition
for for a long period of time
1639
01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:42,040
outside of that one Trish
against Vanderbilt.
1640
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,520
So yeah, just just win the line
of scrimmage when there's one on
1641
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,200
1000 trenches.
And I think that's going to be
1642
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:52,520
the the recipe for.
Success Real quick, I want to
1643
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,240
throw tallies in here.
Basically, Tally says we've got
1644
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,160
to beat the road aggregations
and I understand.
1645
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,360
I think every single person here
understands what that means.
1646
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:04,040
This current coaching Staffs Rd.
record is not great.
1647
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,280
Let's get one on the board.
Let's get the momentum going for
1648
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,960
winning the game on the road.
That is from my buddy Tally who
1649
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,440
is out tonight.
Especially on a spot where we
1650
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:15,920
have the last couple trips.
Not, not.
1651
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,560
Shit to bed.
So it's a good.
1652
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,400
Fortune man shit to bed.
There is nothing else to say.
1653
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,440
It's shit to bed.
We've shit to bed the last two
1654
01:26:22,440 --> 01:26:26,280
times down there.
Yeah, What about that?
1655
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,160
And that that kind of goes to my
point, like we need to beat up
1656
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,680
on little brother, right?
I mean, we, we said it and we've
1657
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,520
talked about it.
We we are the flagship football
1658
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,360
program in the state of
Virginia.
1659
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,960
What we should do is any,
whether we're playing with
1660
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,880
however you feel about this road
trip to Norfolk.
1661
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:48,640
And I know a lot of people don't
like it and I get that, but we
1662
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,600
should not have a problem going
down there and handling them for
1663
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,640
four quarters.
I'm not saying we're going to
1664
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,760
put up 50 and shut them out or
anything like that, but we
1665
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,320
should easily handle this game
for four quarters.
1666
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,200
Yes, we should.
Yes, we should.
1667
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:07,360
By the way, whatever you said
was absolute facts.
1668
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:13,320
You spoke to Lavar there for me
and I felt like Gary.
1669
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,680
I said it to Gary and I'll say
it to you all again.
1670
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,080
OU is the 102nd ranked rushing
defense in the country.
1671
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,400
They're giving up almost 180
yards a game.
1672
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,440
The rushing offense, we want a
quick start, run it down their
1673
01:27:26,440 --> 01:27:28,840
throats, run it down their
throats.
1674
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,720
The second is their rushing
offense.
1675
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,440
Well, you know, obviously
they're missing a starter.
1676
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,920
The guy who's starting is
effectively the backup.
1677
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,640
Yes, you do have Bryce Duke, but
still they are not.
1678
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,120
They're getting 100 yards a
game.
1679
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,000
So for our defense, play sound,
don't play down.
1680
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,840
That goes back to what Brian
said and John, kind of what
1681
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:55,000
you're saying to go out there
and just beat them up, go play
1682
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,880
mean.
And I always like this.
1683
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,200
And I know Tally, I think Tally
coined this a couple probably
1684
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,680
last year.
Go make them when it turns
1685
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,840
through the third quarter.
I don't want to be here anymore.
1686
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,360
That's what I want to see.
I want to see literally head
1687
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,800
saying like, man, they going to
make business decisions
1688
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,920
throughout the game and it's
going to be stepping out of our
1689
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,920
way.
So there it is.
1690
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,880
And now we have to do, we always
put our names on it.
1691
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:28,680
We always make our predictions.
I got a little text from Mr.
1692
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:33,360
Talley a few minutes ago.
Tally's feeling a little bit of
1693
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,160
a heartburn for this game.
He does think the Hokies wins,
1694
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:42,360
but at a 2817 clip.
So put that on the board for
1695
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,680
Tally.
Shelton, what you got?
1696
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,720
I'll take Hokies 31 to 10.
I think they're they're going to
1697
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:54,120
come out pretty aggressive.
Just this is a big opportunity
1698
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,840
where you know you have a chance
to smack these guys in the
1699
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,400
mouth.
If we do that, I'm feeling a lot
1700
01:28:58,400 --> 01:28:59,920
better about where we are as a
program.
1701
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,360
If it's dogfight, man, you're
you're coming to next week
1702
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,800
thinking like, oh, we don't know
what this team really is yet.
1703
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,000
So I think they'll I think
they'll cover.
1704
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:10,920
So yeah, give me, give me Hookes
by three touchdowns.
1705
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:16,920
I've got 3 touchdowns as well,
but I've got a little bit more
1706
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,680
scoring going on both
directions.
1707
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,720
I've got this one coming out to
3817.
1708
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,920
I think this is the week the
offense puts the pieces together
1709
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:30,480
and goes up there and score some
points for most the better part
1710
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:33,080
of the four quarters that we're
going to watch on Saturday at
1711
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:38,600
six PMI think that ODU gets a a
touchdown late to kind of make
1712
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,560
it make it an interesting little
more interesting contest there.
1713
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:47,800
But I think we're able to close
it out, put it away. 3817 is
1714
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,120
what I got. 3 touchdown victory
for the Hokies.
1715
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:56,040
All right.
I'm actually not far from any of
1716
01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:02,640
y'all whatsoever.
I am at Hokies win 3820 and I
1717
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,640
get a feeling what what he said
about some of their problems
1718
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,280
with their rush defense, with
their blitzing.
1719
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,560
There's going to be some
opportunities one-on-one if we
1720
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,560
can pass track, get the ball out
quick.
1721
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,320
I think it's going to be
actually kind of a role reversal
1722
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,520
of what happened with Marshall.
I do think this is the week we
1723
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:23,920
come out quick and 3820, but I
think it's one of those games as
1724
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:27,480
we sit in the third quarter,
it's like this game's over.
1725
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:29,520
They can't do anything against
us.
1726
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:32,840
They're they're not going to be
able to come back from this lead
1727
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:37,000
we have built up in the first
three, 2 1/2 quarters. 3820
1728
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:40,880
Hokies.
All righty, we are gone.
1729
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:47,280
It's time.
It is time Week 3 of big
1730
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,160
screeners presented by the
Counts Family Pharmacy.
1731
01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:51,720
You know what we're going to do
next year?
1732
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:53,600
We're going to let Jeremy make
picks and pick a game.
1733
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:59,800
What do you think about that?
Oh shit, can't wait for that.
1734
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,000
All right, Is he going to make a
video every week like Jason?
1735
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,480
Oh, that'd be.
Awesome.
1736
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,840
About about half bottle into a
Jameson's all.
1737
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,800
Righty.
But hey, probably starting next
1738
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:16,000
week, Blacksburg on the Rocks is
probably going to be the lead in
1739
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,560
for our show, man.
It is.
1740
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:21,440
That's the plan if we can get
our crap together over on our
1741
01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:23,240
side of the house.
But got to get got to get the
1742
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:28,120
kids sports schedules in line
here and while in right now.
1743
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,040
Is what it is.
Can't do much about it.
1744
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,480
All right, So we got big
screeners, big slate of games
1745
01:31:33,480 --> 01:31:37,120
this week, some good games,
actually just so many games.
1746
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,040
We actually missed a couple like
we do not have Alabama,
1747
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:45,800
Wisconsin on here again.
We are put that on the board.
1748
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:49,480
Put put that message up real
quick.
1749
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,840
It was 39 points.
It ain't like that thing went to
1750
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,520
50.
So get your head out of your
1751
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,600
ass.
Again, again, we said it on
1752
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,240
Twitter when when he when he
said, hey, you should, you
1753
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:02,760
should have, you should have
took the over.
1754
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,320
I'm like, bro, you said hammer
the over.
1755
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,920
You said you didn't say squeak
over the over.
1756
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,960
You didn't say smoking heaters
in the parking lot.
1757
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,200
Hoping this hits and over.
And it hits 37 with about 8
1758
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,720
minutes to go.
So yeah, but we got hey.
1759
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,040
If if you were betting you made
some money, so good on you, yes.
1760
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:22,360
Exactly.
Good on you.
1761
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,200
Alrighty.
But by the way, that is now the
1762
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,160
third time in the last 14 games
that Iowa's hit the over.
1763
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:35,080
Statistics say bet the under.
All right, so let's go to big
1764
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:36,800
screeners.
Brian, you're up first.
1765
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,280
Where are you heading to for
your big screeners game?
1766
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:43,440
Let's go to K State, baby.
This is an interesting game for
1767
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:47,760
me.
You got Arizona busting into a
1768
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:51,160
new conference.
You got K State pretty good
1769
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:55,160
season last year.
I kind of think both of these
1770
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,440
teams are a little over ranked
at this point.
1771
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:03,360
So I'm not really exactly sure
what to expect from him, but
1772
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,680
it's, you know, it's 7 1/2
points there for K State.
1773
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,560
I'm going to take that.
I think K State wins this by
1774
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,960
about 10.
So give me K State here.
1775
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:16,760
This game is Friday night 8:00,
so definitely 1.
1776
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:20,440
You can just sit down and enjoy
without looking at 50 other
1777
01:33:20,440 --> 01:33:23,400
games.
And I am right with you Brian.
1778
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:27,560
I am laying that 7 1/2.
I think the war that they got
1779
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,960
down at 2 lane last week where
they barely squeaked by the
1780
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,480
Green Wave.
I think that woke up Kansas
1781
01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:35,640
State.
I think Arizona is going to
1782
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,000
tumble to earth.
Remember it was the Jet Fish
1783
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,200
program last year.
Jed's up at Washington now and
1784
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,720
going into the little Apple of
Manhattan, KS.
1785
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:48,600
I think the Wildcats win this
one pretty comfortably.
1786
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:53,360
What about you, Sheldon?
Yeah, I'm taking Arizona to
1787
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,920
cover.
I I Kansas State was in a
1788
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,240
dogfight last week with Tulane.
I agree with Brian, both teams
1789
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:02,040
probably overrated and I think
it's a Friday night game and
1790
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:03,760
sometimes weird stuff happens on
Friday nights.
1791
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,600
So I'll take the cats to cover
all.
1792
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:10,400
Right, the Cats to cover Friday
8:00 Kansas State 14.
1793
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:14,720
Arizona is number 20.
I am driving this week.
1794
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,720
Let's go down to Winston Salem.
Hey, we got to get the other
1795
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:19,360
three in here.
Bud.
1796
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,200
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tally Arizona.
1797
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,600
Sorry, man.
When nobody's here, I forget.
1798
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,920
You're good.
Hey, rarely do we have three of
1799
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:30,040
us here now read off the other
3.
1800
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,760
So hey, I'll let it slide this
time.
1801
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:36,560
Tally's got Arizona, we got
Miranda riding with K State, and
1802
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:40,280
Jason is also riding.
With Kansas State, but we're all
1803
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,280
on the Wildcats this week.
Here we go.
1804
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,160
All right, now let's go down to
Winston Salem.
1805
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:50,000
Lane Kiffin and Jackson Dark
come in to visit the Wake Forest
1806
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:54,200
Demon Deacons, who are basically
coming off an absolute choke job
1807
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:58,240
versus the Wahoos last week in
UVA.
1808
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:04,480
What a line.
This is 23 1/2 points.
1809
01:35:04,480 --> 01:35:09,600
That is a monster to lay.
So Brian, I will kick to you
1810
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,680
first.
Are you laying that many points?
1811
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:17,280
Give it to me, baby.
Wake to me answered the
1812
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,680
questions that I had of can this
team run it for four quarters?
1813
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,920
Can they keep up with the team
that can throw it, throw the
1814
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,520
ball around a little bit.
They showed me they could do it
1815
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,000
for a little bit.
UVA came back in the end, pulled
1816
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:34,200
the upset there.
Wake had had a couple problems
1817
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,760
on offense that kind of turned
that game late.
1818
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,120
I think Ole Miss is just going
to be too much for him.
1819
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,320
I think it's going to be about a
28 point win.
1820
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:48,600
SO4 touchdown victory for the.
Ribs, all right.
1821
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:53,360
And again, with this being my
game, I'm taking Ole Miss as
1822
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,920
well.
I think that offense is going to
1823
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:58,680
probably score every time they
touch the ball.
1824
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,600
I think it's going to be an
entertaining game.
1825
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:04,360
You like offense between
Clawson's mesh and then in Lane
1826
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,400
Kiffin's offense.
Buckle up.
1827
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:10,720
Probably a big over in this
situation, but I'm with you,
1828
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:12,840
Brian.
I think it's eventually Ole Miss
1829
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:14,800
being the deeper, being the more
talented team.
1830
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:18,360
They slowly pull away at the end
and it's probably going to be
1831
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,760
about 28.
Sheldon, what about you?
1832
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,280
Boy, 23 1/2, that's a lot of
points.
1833
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,240
I think Ole Miss wins
comfortably, but I think Wake
1834
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,600
Forest can score just enough to
cover.
1835
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,240
All righty, what else we got?
Tally is riding with you again,
1836
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,440
Sheldon, I think.
I think he's fully subscribing
1837
01:36:36,440 --> 01:36:38,880
to.
If Sheldon's got them, I'm
1838
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,280
rolling.
He's jumping in the car with.
1839
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,600
Sheldon, I was.
I was good last week.
1840
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,480
Yeah, yeah, we didn't.
You didn't put that up.
1841
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,440
I threw it at you.
I threw it at you.
1842
01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:49,600
Let me I I can, I can pull it
back up here in a second.
1843
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,120
Pull that back up.
I felt good about last week.
1844
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:56,720
Actually, most of us had good.
Nobody did awful last week.
1845
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:59,000
Nobody did awful.
Last week, All right, Miranda
1846
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:02,840
riding with Wake as well.
Jason with me and Brian laying a
1847
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:08,560
lot of points.
Saturday night 630 on the CWI.
1848
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,120
Wonder if they'll have the
chopper down at Wake Stadium
1849
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,400
this week.
So that will definitely be on
1850
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,520
the second screen here in the
Wilson Man cave.
1851
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,400
All righty.
What did Tally go?
1852
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:19,520
Oh, no.
Shelton.
1853
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,000
Shelton, Shelton, you're up
next.
1854
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:25,040
Shelton, where are you going?
I'm going to the site of game
1855
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,760
day.
LSU and USC EI think it's to be
1856
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,680
a pretty interesting game.
Kind of an upstart South
1857
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,640
Carolina team.
They've got a really good pass
1858
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:37,040
rush, defense looking pretty
solid, but LSU good as well.
1859
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:41,000
I'm taking LSU in this one
purely based off vibes.
1860
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,560
I think South Carolina is going
to be a little bit too hyped up
1861
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,000
with college game day being in
town.
1862
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,120
I think they're in for they're
due for a let down game, so I
1863
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:54,280
will take LSU.
I'm riding with LSU as well,
1864
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:58,080
Sheldon.
I, I, I've just, I'm not sold on
1865
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:02,080
South Carolina being more than a
six or seven win team in the
1866
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:05,160
SEC.
So I, I think this is a game
1867
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:09,080
that circumstances the line
where there weren't a ton of
1868
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,920
compelling matchups.
Like the, the best ranked
1869
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:17,040
matchup you had this week is for
a team that just joined a, a
1870
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:20,200
conference that, that you that
we let off with there.
1871
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,760
So there wasn't a lot of
history, wasn't a lot of super
1872
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,760
compelling ranked matchups.
I feel like this kind of fell in
1873
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,960
their laps a little bit.
But I I like LSU in this one.
1874
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:36,320
Probably at least 2 touchdowns.
All righty, this one is ABC 12.
1875
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,640
I will have no shot of sitting
with it watching this one
1876
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,320
because I will be at the
baseball field at about 10:00.
1877
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,640
My cousin and his son are going
to absolutely hate me.
1878
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:47,760
My cousin is a South Carolina
alum.
1879
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,800
His son is a sophomore down
there.
1880
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,680
I told him like he's telling
he's got to go.
1881
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,520
Like he's just got to go.
It is one of the most
1882
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,160
unbelievable experience you've
ever been to.
1883
01:38:56,480 --> 01:38:59,840
But unfortunately, when I make a
bet, I got to do it the right
1884
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:04,200
way, not where the heart is.
LSU wins big, and here's the big
1885
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:08,560
reason why.
The defense, you keep a Lincoln
1886
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:14,040
Riley offense under 30 points,
you're doing good things.
1887
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,160
And I don't think South
Carolina's got anywhere near
1888
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:24,600
that type of offensive talent.
You know, 21, I don't know,
1889
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:29,760
2427, you know, 14, something
like that.
1890
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,560
We got Shelton on there.
We got his LSU pick.
1891
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:36,040
Tally.
Literally Tally is just riding
1892
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:41,960
with Shelton.
Miranda throwing her throwing
1893
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,000
her money behind the the
Gamecocks there.
1894
01:39:44,440 --> 01:39:46,240
She's she's on the Shane train
this.
1895
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,000
Week and then we got Jason
riding with the Tigers.
1896
01:39:49,240 --> 01:39:53,680
I do have an update here for us
on how we did last week.
1897
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:58,480
I got four out of the six.
Curtis, you also got four out of
1898
01:39:58,480 --> 01:40:00,680
the six.
Tally 4 out of the six, Sheldon,
1899
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,080
five of six.
Good week for Sheldon.
1900
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:07,800
Miranda right on right on the
50% there.
1901
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:11,440
Three out of the six.
Jason the The Gambling
1902
01:40:11,440 --> 01:40:15,080
guitarist, only two, two, only
two.
1903
01:40:15,480 --> 01:40:19,440
He he did get the money picked
though, So he did get the money.
1904
01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:20,720
We'll give him that.
We'll give him that.
1905
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,680
That is correct.
All right, Even though Tally's
1906
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,640
not here.
Tally's taking us out to
1907
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:30,840
Columbia, MO, where the This is
a rank matchup.
1908
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,680
This is where I thought they
were going to go.
1909
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,920
This is where I thought game day
was going to go was Columbia,
1910
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:42,840
MO, not Columbia South Carolina,
but you got a rank match up with
1911
01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:49,000
BC and Missouri. 1245 SEC
Network.
1912
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:56,080
Mizzou is laying 17 points.
What do you got on this one,
1913
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,640
Brian?
You know what?
1914
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:04,280
I've I've liked what I've seen
from BC and I think for this
1915
01:41:04,280 --> 01:41:07,480
one, for me, with that Bill
O'Brien LED BC team, it's not so
1916
01:41:07,480 --> 01:41:10,240
much that I think they're going
to go down there and give
1917
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:13,440
Missouri a ton of problems.
It's that that 17 is too damn
1918
01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:17,440
big for me to take with the way
I've seen BC play so far.
1919
01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:21,480
So I'll take BC and that that
17.
1920
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:24,920
Yeah, I'm with you.
I'm it's, it's more of who the
1921
01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:28,960
coach is right now at BC with
Bill O'Brien.
1922
01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,240
I don't think he's going to let
his team get blown out by that
1923
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,880
much.
And obviously we saw them have
1924
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:39,200
significant success against FSU,
so I think they do have some
1925
01:41:39,200 --> 01:41:41,600
confidence going down there.
I don't, I don't think they can
1926
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:45,040
pull the upset, but I do think a
lot closer than the 17 that the
1927
01:41:45,040 --> 01:41:48,760
experts think.
John, what you?
1928
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,560
Got I, I am.
I am with both of you guys, I
1929
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,120
think.
I think Mizzou is actually
1930
01:41:53,120 --> 01:41:56,120
legitimately they are a top ten
team for sure, no doubt.
1931
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:59,000
But that 17 was just a little
bit too much for me.
1932
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,880
You're good.
You're not 17 points good, by
1933
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,120
the way.
Just go boom, boom, boom, boom
1934
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,920
boom.
This is the consensus pick this
1935
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,240
week.
Everybody's ride with the
1936
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:13,800
Eagles, man.
Everybody's ride six complete.
1937
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:16,600
Soaring personalities.
Soaring with the fucking Eagles.
1938
01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:20,520
6 completely different career
paths. 6 completely different
1939
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:24,320
locations.
We're all riding with the
1940
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,760
Eagles.
Lay the 17 and hold on.
1941
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,600
All righty Miranda, we should
have let her announce this
1942
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:33,280
earlier.
She is going down to the swamp
1943
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:38,240
with the the Florida Gators in
the Texas A&M Aggies.
1944
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:40,560
Aggies.
Is that up there Brian?
1945
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:41,560
I don't see.
There we go.
1946
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:50,360
Aggies are a A4 point favorite.
So, Gators getting points at
1947
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:54,600
home, something you rarely,
rarely see.
1948
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,760
Brian, where are you on this
one?
1949
01:42:58,440 --> 01:43:00,720
There's a reason for it.
That Florida team has looked
1950
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:04,800
like dog shit so far in the 2024
campaign.
1951
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,560
And I think it continues.
And I think this is a game where
1952
01:43:07,560 --> 01:43:13,320
we figure out if, you know,
Notre Dame is thrown out one
1953
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:18,400
great game and one dud or
whether A&M is just not that
1954
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,200
great of a team.
I I think they're going to prove
1955
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:23,960
that there's, you know, they're
a little bit more than than that
1956
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:26,880
first game showed.
So I'm going to take A&M to win
1957
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:31,800
by about a touchdown here.
I'm, I'm, I'm with you.
1958
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:34,280
I'm definitely going to lay the
points here, give Florida the
1959
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:38,520
four points just of where they
are vibe wise.
1960
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,480
I think A&M yet they lost to
Notre Dame.
1961
01:43:41,480 --> 01:43:44,560
I think still, I think Elkos are
good enough to coach to turn
1962
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:48,440
them around.
I think this is the one that it
1963
01:43:48,440 --> 01:43:51,640
doesn't set the chair on fire,
but they're dumping the gasoline
1964
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:53,800
on the chair after this week for
Billy Napier.
1965
01:43:54,440 --> 01:44:00,480
I think I think A&M wins.
Give me something like a like a
1966
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:05,800
27 to 17 game.
Like it's one of those it's
1967
01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,720
probably not going to be in
doubt the whole way for A&M.
1968
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:14,680
So, but probably entertaining
2717 Gators Shelton.
1969
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,680
Yeah, I like A and MI, just
think I like Alpho.
1970
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:20,840
I think they've just got too
much talent on that roster not
1971
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:22,720
to start, you know, putting it
together eventually.
1972
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,400
So I think this will be the
start of a start of a good run
1973
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:30,160
for them all.
Right tally, Tally's rod.
1974
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:34,800
With A&M and then we got the two
Gators on the tail in there with
1975
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:37,680
Miranda and Jason.
They're saying home game in the
1976
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:40,000
Swamp with the Gators given 4
points.
1977
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:41,800
Looks like they're riding with
that.
1978
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:43,160
They're riding with the swamp
effect.
1979
01:44:43,440 --> 01:44:47,080
They're riding with the swamp
effect all righty, so our
1980
01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:50,840
gambling guitarist this week is
taking it to Tallahassee.
1981
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:59,840
Well, since my baby left found
new place to dwell.
1982
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:22,960
Welcome back to another week of
guitar licks and gambling picks.
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I'm Jason Long.
We got the dub last week when
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the Vols rolled over the
Wolfpack.
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01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,960
Looking to keep that street
going down in Tallahassee when
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Memphis takes on Florida State.
Now, Memphis might be the home
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of the King, but the Seminoles
are the ones who have been
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living in Heartbreak Hotel
lately.
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Haven't started the season.
Oh, and two.
1990
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And things don't get easier this
week when Memphis comes to town.
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They're probably the best team
they've played yet.
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It's possible the Tigers head
back to Bill St.
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Three and oh, so I'm taking
Memphis plus 6 1/2 on the road
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this week against Florida State.
All righty, there is Jason.
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Obviously Jason with his
rendition of Heartbreak Hotel by
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the late, great Elvis Presley is
going Memphis.
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Give him the points.
Brian, you riding with the
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guitar man are you?
Are you pushing him off to the
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side?
I'm going with the Fighting
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Silver fields out there in
Memphis.
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You have to, right?
You have to, right?
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You can't.
I mean, you got to tell a little
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back story here.
So when I was a a young buck
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just starting college, there was
this this very, very young
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assistant on our on our team
working with the DNS freshman
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year out there.
I got to play a lot of scout
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team, got to know him pretty
well.
2008
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And that guy's now the head
coach of the Memphis Tigers, Ron
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Silverfield.
So really good guy, really good
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coach.
And even at the young age of I
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think it was like 21 or 22 at
the time, he was had just either
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just graduated or was was
graduating that year from
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Hamden.
Sydney was already a very good
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coach and and we see where his
careers went since then.
2015
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So give me them Memphis Tigers.
Yeah, and I'm right with you on
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this.
Give me the Tigers as well just
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because of what we have seen
from FSU the first two weeks.
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They just had a bye week.
That's all good and well.
2019
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But if DJ you still a
quarterback and they had haven't
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fixed any of those issues, take
the points because I think
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Memphis could win this game
outright and send the Seminoles
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to O and three.
When I when I pick games, I tend
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to favorite teams that have
dealt with some adversity,
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especially early in the year.
You know, they're they're kind
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of frustrated because I think
they're going to bounce back.
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In this case, I think MSC would
definitely bounce back.
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They will cover.
I think they win by a pretty
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comfortable margin here.
So I got the noise.
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I think they're going to,
they're going to come out pretty
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pissed off.
They heard the noise, they heard
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the criticism and they're going
to respond on Saturday.
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All right, and Tally and Miranda
got on the bus with Shelton and
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obviously us Halifax boys are
riding together tonight.
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So there's big screens.
Let's put the big board up
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there.
Yeah, there it is.
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There it is.
There it is.
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Who who did the best tonight,
Y'all, y'all, y'all drop a
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comment in there.
Hit us up on Twitter.
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Let us know who you think has
the best big board heading into
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the weekend.
Well, this is great, Brian.
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It's it's it's the Shelton tally
combo and against me and you
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because look at that board exact
same minds.
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The question is, which great
minds?
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This week we shall find out.
From and, you know, and, and
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maybe Miranda comes out on top
because she's the only one I
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think with a couple left field
picks compared to, to most
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everybody else there.
So.
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She pivoted on a couple of them
and so we will see.
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All right.
Anything coming across the wire,
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Coming across the Twittersphere,
coming across the Anything in
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the last few minutes, last few
hours here.
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Hey, we're all set, man.
I think we're ready to punch it.
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All righty.
Well, that does wrap up this
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episode of the Boundary Corner
podcast brought to you by Counts
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And this year, we're letting our
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little musical adventure in his
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we have loved.
I've known Jason since the 4th
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grade, y'all.
So I've known him about as long
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as I've known Siegel.
And Siegel, you've known him as
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long as you've known me.
So he's our boy.
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He plays and plays his out.
We love him.
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So, as always, let's go.
Hokey.
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The.
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Music.
Welcome back to the Boundary
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Corner podcast, along with my
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Jonathan Talley, our
contributing writer Miranda
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Wilhelm, Ian Curtis Wilson.
Jonathan Talley is unfortunately
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been ruled out for tonight.
He's a little bit under the
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weather, so he will not be
joining us.
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Tally, get better, man.
You know, we miss you here, but
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the Counts Family Pharmacy.
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It should be taking play this
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week.
Jeremy let me know.
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Just a ton of transfers and
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So if your student family member
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to send it to Curtis.
I've got his address, I can get
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you hooked up.
He's good for it.
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I'm good for it.
Yeah, I'm really good for it.
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Well, let's start here tonight.
We have for the first time, join
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us and she will be joining us
off and on through the season
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and in the offseason.
Miranda, how are you tonight?
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I'm so good.
Thanks for having me in general
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and tonight Crash in the boys
party Crash.
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In the boys party, yes you are.
Hey, we got to pump it up a
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little bit, right?
Miranda, you're going to hang
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out with us while we do tell the
truth Tuesday.
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You've obviously got to jump off
and take care of some things
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after that, but let's get to
know you a little bit.
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So first of all, you are Tech
alum, correct?
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Yes.
What year did you graduate?
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2008.
Oh wow, y'all remember those
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years?
It was so, so many good years.
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I was there just.
What?
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What?
What years?
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Where are you?
Living the dream there.
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O4 to O8.
So like.
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First year the ACC Brian rant.
I mean, it was a dream.
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Oh God O 4 Brian.
That O four team gives me
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chills.
Memories.
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Oh gosh.
Yeah, oh man, I love that O Four
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team.
Man, I love that O Four team so
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much so.
OK, well, hold on.
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So we're going to get to know a
few other things about you.
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So O4 to O8, who's your favorite
hokey?
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Because that's a tough one.
I mean there are some absolute
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studs during that period.
Like football hokey in that time
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period in.
That time period.
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I the only reason I'm going to
say Ryan Randall is because in
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like, whatever, I forgot what
year it was.
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I tweeted him because I saw him
driving down in North Carolina
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and he like tweeted me back and
I thought that was super like
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cool because I was like, he
doesn't need to tweet some
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random chick.
So, and he like ushered me into
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hokey football experiences.
So he just kind of set the tone.
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He was such a class act and
yeah.
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All right, Brian Rail, that
makes sense here.
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Now go back in the memory bank.
First of all, what was like
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what?
What was your first game?
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1st.
Or pre student.
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First year or very first game at
Lane was Western Michigan.
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We walloped them and I was like,
man, I chose a good school like
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and I chose them for football.
That I was oddly enough between
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JMU and Virginia Tech and I was
like, I'm going with the
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football school.
Little did I know like years
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down the road we lose to JMU,
but whatever.
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I think we beat them by like 60
some points if I'm not mistaken.
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That game I.
Feel like that was right because
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I think that was after the USC
game.
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Yes.
It was after the USC.
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Game.
I moved into my dorm the day we
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played USC and watched that,
yeah, we lost to them.
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And then we came out swinging at
home against, you know.
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I I still the USC game that OPI
that was not is still to this
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day.
Oh, it's it's the what if OPI
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this day I was hammered in my
apartment in Longwood.
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Yeah, throwing things when they
call that penalty.
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Hey, while, while we're, while
we're here, let's we're at a
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decent little pivot point here.
Let's go ahead and shout out
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Ethan, Ethan, Ethan tweeted at
us today.
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He said he was going to be here.
He's here.
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Welcome aboard, also as always.
Lavar love you Lavar.
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Who else is always in the house?
We we can't forget Kevin drones.
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Can never get Kevin drones.
Kevin Kevin.
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Oh man.
And a lot of other good stuff
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going on here.
We got Thomas in the house.
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Tib Tib and senior year was the
O4 with #3 being alive and this
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is.
So great.
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We were right in the midst of
our college career at that
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point.
So that was, that was a good
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year.
But actually I, I'm, I'm sure
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I've told this story, I don't
know if I've told this tomorrow,
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but Brian's brother Brandon was
my RA at Hammond Sydney.
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So it was that was that was
always a pretty fun interaction
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there anytime Brian would make
the trip down to Hammond.
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Sydney, that's so cool.
Wow.
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Very cool, very cool.
Miranda, before we get into, you
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know, tell the truth Wednesday,
you do some other ventures out
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there and I definitely won't.
You've obviously got your
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Twitter handle up there, which
all of you guys and girls who
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are out there tonight following
and watching us follow her on
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Twitter.
So she's we are we are pushing
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to try to get her into the press
conferences.
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We've been working on that.
Hopefully soon she'll be there,
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maybe asking some questions, but
you do some other stuff
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obviously related to football.
So go ahead, pump that out of
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what you do where they can find
your writing when it comes to
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the NFL stuff.
Yeah, so I've been contributing
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to a site called Draft Countdown
for this is my third season,
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just a weekly content, sometimes
a little bit more.
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The whole site is kind of
centered around the draft, but
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they wanted somebody to, they
wanted a psycho fanatic like me
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to come on board and kind of
bridge the gap because all they
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centered everything on was like
prospecting and all rookie
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stuff.
And they were like, you know
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what, let's kind of bring it all
together.
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And you know, even before I got
into college and college
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football, like NF LS kind of
been my bread and butter.
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So that's yeah, you can find my
stuff at Draft Countdown every
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Sunday usually.
And and then the draft.
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Draft season is pretty crazy.
You got to you got to rip your
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team and let us know how your
quarterback's doing.
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Oh yeah, what's?
What's the issue on the?
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Yeah, he was not practicing
today, which is not surprising,
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but the coach is doing the
thing.
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Lafleur is like, you know,
there's he's not, he's not ruled
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out for set for Sunday.
And I'm like.
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Yes, he is.
Like don't.
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Play him.
On an injured MCL, that's.
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Yeah, they threw the doubtful
label on him in the in the
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fantasy apps.
I'm like, he's not fucking
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playing.
Just go and put that he's.
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Going to play until October.
Let's just put that that's.
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What I'm thinking, yeah, yeah,
Week four against the Vikings,
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that sounds reasonable.
So anyways, that was kind of a
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blow.
Week 1, you know, looked forward
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to football for so many months,
then I was like, well, could
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have been worse so.
I I have him in both of my
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fantasy leagues and thankfully
I've got a decent backup in both
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of us.
I've got two in one league.
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And I've.
Got Baker in another so if Baker
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keeps up his week 1 performance
I think I'll be OK.
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Baker looked good, granted it
was the commanders so I don't.
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Know it was.
It was.
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It was the commanders.
That is true all right, well,
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now let's get to it y'all,
because we do have to tell the
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truth tonight about what
happened in the Hokies.
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I mean let's just say it 3114.
When is a winning week versus
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the Marshall thundering heard?
So let's start with what went
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well, and I'm going to start
this because a lot of people
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were hub dropping and pissed
off.
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We will be almost 17 if y'all
remember what happened last year
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when we played them.
Everybody go back in your memory
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banks, go on the line and find
we did not beat this team last
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year.
We did not beat this team last
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year.
So get your heads out of your
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asses about a 17 point win.
We lost to this team last year
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and to get a three score win,
was it the prettiest 3 score
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win?
No, it was not.
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That's an improvement.
If you lose to him last year and
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you beat him the next year, it's
an improvement.
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I am very sorry.
I'm a little bit.
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I, I see that buddy, you're
fired up.
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And when we look at, when you
look at the way the game went,
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it was kind of a mirror of last
year's game where we came out
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firing.
We were running the ball well to
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start the game and then went
away from it and the offense
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fizzled.
And then we never really got our
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footing back.
And we kind of played a reverse
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of that, right?
We kind of came out a little
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uneven, but I will say we didn't
get a lot of points of it.
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But in the first half, the ball
was moving.
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We just couldn't put drives
together.
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It wasn't like Vanderbilt, where
at Vanderbilt it felt like we
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never got anything going that
entire first half.
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Offensively, the ball was
moving.
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We just weren't able to put
those drives together.
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We weren't able to put three
successful plays together often
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enough in that first half to
really put points on the board.
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And then things kind of flipped
again like Curtis alluded to in
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the second-half.
And you know, we're out there.
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You know, if if we play in the
second-half, if we play every
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quarter like we play in the
second-half, I think we'll we'll
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be a pretty damn good team.
But we just haven't put four
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quarters together yet.
Sean, what do you think about
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that man?
I mean.
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Tell us your halves right?
Like first half you look like,
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you know, you can't, you can't
run the ball at all and you're
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in a dogfight with a team.
You should be, you know, kind of
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running over.
And then, you know, second-half
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they start, they start pounding
the ball and kind of
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breakthrough there.
So I'm kind of I'm kind of half
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and half with Curtis.
Like, yes, I I think you should
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always, you know, a three score
win.
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You should, you know, never take
winning for granted.
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They got the job done.
You know, they look mostly
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pretty competent, especially on
defence.
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At the same time, there was, you
know, there was room for
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improvement.
Some things could have done
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better.
You know, I think I think this
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upcoming week will be a pretty
good, pretty good test to see
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how they can handle a, you know,
opponent that they should they
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should take care of business of.
But yeah, I mean, you know, you
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don't it's a 3 score win.
So you don't want to be too mad,
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but at the same time, kind of,
you know, focus on on things
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that can can go better.
I'm sure we'll talk about that
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tonight.
Absolutely, Miranda.
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Anything on just the win in
general?
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Well, kind of like what Shelton
just said.
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Like tale of two halves,
obviously, yes, that's exactly
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how it went down.
And I almost kind of attribute
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both to coaching to some degree.
They came out sluggish to me.
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There's a little coaching in
there.
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You're not setting your players
up for success, you know, coming
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out the gates, but they're able
to come out the half very
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adjusted and established the run
and just look like a whole new
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team.
So you got to give them credit
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there for do what they needed to
do at the half.
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And so it's a little bit of a
weird day, but like you said, a
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wins a win.
When's a win?
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And you're right, it is a little
bit on coaching of because now
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we're seeing this whole this
whole we are a slow team out the
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gate.
When this thing got rolling last
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year, with the exception of
playing three of the best teams
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in league, the other games it
was hot out of the gate, super
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hot out of the gate.
And we only had really 4
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second-half possessions.
We score on three of them.
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But to everybody, to your point,
Miranda, they the adjustments in
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on halftime are working now.
Shelton, Brian, I'll throw it to
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y'all.
What are y'all or actually all
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three of y'all?
What are we seeing?
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What?
What is coming out of the half?
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Because it's clearly something.
Is it just somebody hidden them,
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you know, over the shoulder with
a whistle?
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Like get your head in gear, go
play.
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I'm just not convinced that this
staff is doing a great job of
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making adjustments on the fly.
I think they need to see it,
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look at it, take some time to to
calculate and then they come
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back out and they look
different.
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So that's when you have games
like like last year, I think
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with with ACC opponents, the
things we saw with ACC
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opponents, especially common
opponents that we play every
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year that we've got a decent
amount of tape on.
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We looked very prepared to start
the game.
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You you think Pitt, you think
EBA, you think Wake, you think
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Boston BC.
Yeah, so game, you know, we've
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got a lot of tape on those
teams, even with some of the
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tweaks they have.
We we kind of know what to
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expect there.
I think, you know, we're
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probably a little lucky in that
a lot of the opponents we're
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getting out of conference this
year are common from last year.
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I mean, you, you get ODU, you,
you know, you get, you get
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Marshall, you got Rutgers coming
up.
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So Vanderbilt was really the
only wild card there.
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So maybe that bodes well long
term.
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And I think when we looked at
Week 1, looking at the offense,
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we didn't throw the ball well.
We came out throwing the ball
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out the gate, but what we didn't
do a good job was protecting.
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I think they were playing a lot
of for shell, playing a lot of
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zone making Kyron hit a lot of
tight windows there.
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So, you know, I think they had a
good game plan to kind of slow
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us down out the gate.
And I think it until we got
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really leaning on that rushing
attack, we weren't really able
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to get those sustained drives in
the first half and that was a
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big factor.
Yeah, I think, I think often
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times in in sports discussions,
there's a tendency to conflate
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poor effort.
I have no doubt in my mind that
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the guys in this team, you know,
came out ready to play.
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They want to win, they want to
execute.
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But sometimes you just don't.
And it's it just boils down to
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lack of execution and and, you
know, a delay in in the coaching
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adjustments necessary.
I agree with Brian.
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I think for whatever reason, the
staff seems a little bit slow to
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make those adjustments.
I don't know why that is.
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But you look at the first half,
you know, Marshall played a lot
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of cover three.
They dropped guys in zone.
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They forced Tyron Jones to to
read the field.
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You know, I thought sometimes it
was a case of poor communication
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on the protections.
Now maybe that's an issue with
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Braylon Moore in the offensive
line being being kind of
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sometimes the guys weren't
getting open and sometimes it's
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just a numbers game.
Marshall's dropping too many
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guys that we didn't have anyone
open, you know, in the 1st place
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and they, they couldn't get a
really good push off the ball
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trying to run the ball.
So it was a combination of
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factors.
You know, I think, I think
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there's a lot of a lot of blame
to go around, you know, and, and
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certainly drones has to, you
know, keep keep progressing.
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But yeah, I just, it just seems
like the, the staff, you know,
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really excels at halftime when
they can look over the iPad and,
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you know, they got 10 minutes to
go over all their notes and, and
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just, you know, talk about
everything collectively.
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But for some reason, when, when
it's kind of on the fly, when
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they're, you know, in the midst
of the heat of battle, they,
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they, they just aren't seeing
those those adjustments.
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So whatever those are, I mean,
we'll see if they can if they
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can get better at that.
But I think I don't think it's a
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question of the players wanting
to come on me, you know, play
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hard.
I know they want to play hard.
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It's just they're they're not
set up in the right position and
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right away.
And it's just taking time for
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the coaching staff to put them
in those in those positions to
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be successful.
You got anything on this,
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Miranda?
No, I 100% agree and just goes
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back to like, I, I don't know if
I said this here, I said it to
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Brian before the show, but like,
you know, he mentioned, yes, we
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were, we were doing things with
the ball in the first half,
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right.
The blame goes around a little
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bit.
You know, you come out a certain
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way, that's fine.
Offensive line was a little
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shaky.
We went one and nine on 3rd down
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in the first half.
That's not good, but again,
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that's doesn't fall on one
person, right?
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And we didn't make those
adjustments that we needed to.
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So we didn't score a lot of
points.
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Luckily, our special teams and
defense was.
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Present.
Absolutely.
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That was.
Shout out to the defense and
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definitely shout out to the
special teams with Jay Lane
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because even though I'm I've got
that in another category for
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another reason in a little
while, Jay Lane that that was an
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amazing run back there.
Was, Oh yeah, doubt about.
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That it.
It was, it was set up well, but
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that was just like an immense
individual effort by him getting
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in the end zone there.
So one of the better run backs
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that that I've seen on a punt.
So, and, and really something
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that kind of got us out of our,
you know, I, I think a lot of
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times there, there's some mental
aspects there, right?
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Because you come out, you don't
have a good first half against
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Vanderbilt, you come out,
you're, you're, you're getting
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some yards, but you're not able
to put drives together.
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You're not able to put points on
the board.
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That starts to play with your
mentals a little bit.
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So kind of getting that first
half touchdown off your
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shoulders a little bit.
That was so huge.
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I think for their, their
confidence going into the rest
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of the game.
And I think it really kind of
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showed you get that monkey off
their back a little bit.
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Yeah.
All right.
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Well, let's talk about these
three guys next, because when
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the second-half happened, when
we started running the ball, it
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became super effective
regardless who was in the
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backfield between Tugboat
Tooting.
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Yeah, I said tugboat.
If y'all didn't see the chain,
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go check that out.
That's all time chain, all time
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chain.
And then Malachi Thomas with
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some good runs, PJ Prelude also
with some good runs.
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All four guys average in their
carries over 4 1/2.
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A carry with Bashel and Malachi
over 5 1/2.
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So, Sheldon, what's the numbers
on these guys?
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PFF grades for the game?
Because clearly, you know those
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three guys. 193 combined rush
yards.
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Yeah, well, Malachi Thomas only
got 10 snaps, but he was really
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well graded, 77 per PFF.
And then Tooten, you mentioned
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113 yards on 22 carries.
He was around 65, which is kind
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of right, right around average,
but you know, did well
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statistically.
And what he did really well was
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was for seven missed tackles.
So he's now up to 10 missed
359
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tackles for us on the season,
which is top 25 in FBS, kind of
360
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similar short as last year.
Just his ability to, you know,
361
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to to break away from.
From defenders, you know, not I
362
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mean, if you if you leave the
country in that stat, it's it's
363
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kind of like, you know, your
your online should be doing a
364
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little bit better.
But you know, we we kind of know
365
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that we know that we know that
he's got that in him.
366
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So not going to knock knock him
for that, but it's still still a
367
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,080
pretty impressive
accomplishment.
368
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:22,160
So, and, and Curtis, we were
talking about this earlier in
369
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the week, but looking at the
team stats for Vt rushing wise,
370
00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,400
64% of the yards were after
contact.
371
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,280
And I mentioned that's that to
you.
372
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Vt of the season ranks 99th in
yards before contact per rush.
373
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So overall, they're not doing a
great job of, you know, getting
374
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,360
getting running back to that
second level before they get
375
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touched.
And so that's why we see tune
376
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,880
having to keep, you know,
breaking, having to keep, you
377
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:49,640
know, getting getting missed
tackles for us.
378
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,760
So, yeah, I mean, I, I think
you've got a, a situation where
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the O line is, you know, a
little bit underperforming a
380
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,720
little bit and you're kind of
have to, you know, rely on the
381
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on the running backs to make
plays happen.
382
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,920
And they certainly did that on
Saturday.
383
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Yeah, Miranda, let me get your
take.
384
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,920
Because when we come out half
it's it's 10 seven.
385
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,120
It's it's not the best feel in
the world.
386
00:21:08,120 --> 00:21:12,200
It's like it's a 3 point game
when you saw that opening drive,
387
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,760
boom and then boom.
And then what was your thoughts
388
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,400
on that?
Like sitting there, I'm sure you
389
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,320
were drinking a cold one or a
cocktail and you just saw this
390
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,960
and it just we the ball just
kept moving.
391
00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:29,920
Well, it's like what I know you
especially preached.
392
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:35,200
We did what we needed to do and
we're like, hello, look, it's
393
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,880
it's working more of that.
And I don't care who gets the
394
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:44,080
ball if we're confusing them
that way, do that.
395
00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:49,520
I mean, obviously Basil is the
guy, but everyone's been
396
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serviceable.
So I love it.
397
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,080
I'd love, I'd love to see more
of it.
398
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,120
Yeah, I think that's the big
thing is that we we've, we've
399
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,080
seen that the the running game
can be consistent, right?
400
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:09,960
And we saw some things, yeah, we
started to see some bread and
401
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,640
butter, a little bit of identity
in the in the second-half there
402
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,200
outside outside zone was looking
pretty good, pretty consistent.
403
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,600
A lot of split zone counter was
hitting pretty well.
404
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,600
So we were, we were kind of
getting into those bread and
405
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,720
butter plays.
The only thing that we haven't
406
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,240
got into, and I know Sheldon's
talked about it as well as, you
407
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:30,120
know, that toss we still haven't
quite gotten.
408
00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:31,440
The.
Seal on that.
409
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:36,120
The, the seal is not there.
And the couple times I mean,
410
00:22:36,120 --> 00:22:39,720
it's just our tight ends not
getting out there to, to kind of
411
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,200
wall that, that outside
linebacker or that safety to,
412
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,040
to, to open up that lane.
But if if we get that working, I
413
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,120
think we might be on to
something.
414
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,720
OK, they need to go watch.
That gives us a little bit of
415
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,400
variety with how we can attack
in the in the rushing game.
416
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,480
They need to go watch the 49ers
and how we did that with Jordan
417
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,360
Mason on Monday night on the
short side of the field with
418
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:02,840
those tosses.
I mean it, yeah.
419
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,960
Everyone can learn from.
Shannon Perfect Lane I.
420
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,400
Mean.
Yeah, seriously.
421
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,040
Like when you see that, though,
because I think to Sheldon's
422
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,160
point, we saw that last year, We
saw that little pitch toss work
423
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:17,320
last year to the outside.
And again, what does that do?
424
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,880
That puts linebackers on skates
Because now if they see
425
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,640
something like that, their first
intuition is to take the outside
426
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,160
step.
And if you do that fake and then
427
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,480
you go inside zone, it's like,
well, they're dead.
428
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,520
They're going to be on skates.
You're going to be out of
429
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,360
position.
All right, couple more things.
430
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,960
I want to go to defense because
we we got we got to keep the
431
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,880
best one for last.
What a bounce back from
432
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:45,000
Minnesota lane.
I mean, he got torched by Vandy
433
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,880
and this week Shelton.
I didn't know, were you able to
434
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,960
get the PFF stats on him?
So I don't have the actual
435
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,520
grade, but I can tell you his
coverage when when targeted.
436
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,880
So Marshall went after him eight
times.
437
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,000
They were one for 8 for 25 yards
in interception and two pass
438
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,440
pass breakups.
So he was.
439
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,920
And.
The and the one catch was the
440
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,120
Moss play that probably was a
offensive pass.
441
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,040
Pass.
But still a hell of a catch.
442
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,000
I know I saw.
When I saw that, I I told my
443
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,640
friends that was the greatest
catch I've ever seen live, like
444
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,600
ever.
That's right, I don't know how.
445
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,560
That yes, I was like, I was
right.
446
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,920
I was near the plate too.
Like that.
447
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,480
That was just insane.
That's so cool.
448
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:35,920
So, so like, like now we, we,
we, we go to Week 1 and it's
449
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,640
like we're specting the duo
Dorian Balls.
450
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,480
Mansour gets torched.
I mean, Brian, did you get, I
451
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,920
don't know if y'all got to watch
the tape or anything like that.
452
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,920
I mean, was it just, and don't
get me wrong, Christian
453
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,400
Fitzpatrick and their other guy,
they're not small human beings.
454
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,760
They're not.
I think Fitzpatrick who mossed
455
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:59,760
in his 64 like 220.
He's a massive human being to be
456
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,120
a wide out.
But did it did like was it just
457
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:07,520
technique?
What did y'all see or read or
458
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,040
whatever and say?
How did he have such a good
459
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,640
bounce back game?
Comfort and confidence.
460
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,200
I mean, he looked a lot more
fluid and in his movements and
461
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,480
he looked like he knew kind of
where things were going.
462
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,200
I don't know if the the
preparation was different this
463
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,120
week.
I'm not sure what what exactly
464
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,320
flip switch from a confidence
standpoint, but completely
465
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,200
different player this week and,
and played with a lot of swagger
466
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,720
that we're kind of accustomed
to.
467
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,520
So it was good to see him kind
of get back into that, that vein
468
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,080
and and play with that
confidence because, you know,
469
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,840
playing playing corner, you got
to be confident.
470
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:50,160
If you're not confident playing
corner, you're a liability. 100%
471
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,720
All right, one other defenses
stat I want to go to real here
472
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,240
and y'all may have looked it up.
Do y'all know how many past
473
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:59,760
deflections we had against
Vanderbilt?
474
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:10,080
It wasn't many.
Less No 2, they counted yeah, 22
475
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,240
pass deflections, 2 pass
deflections.
476
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,400
They went 600% better this week.
We had 12 pass deflections, most
477
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,800
Phillips, Kalai Lawson, Kalai
Kalai Lawson led the way with
478
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,000
three, most with two, Jalen
Jones with two, Mansour with
479
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,640
two, Dante Lovett with two,
Caleb Spencer with two.
480
00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:35,800
So that makes me feel a lot
better because it tells me we
481
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,200
were in the right position so
many more times this week.
482
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,680
Obviously the the man sore in
most the interception combo was
483
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,280
perfect because they were
exactly where they were supposed
484
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,080
to be.
They're exactly where they're
485
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,320
supposed to be.
Somebody said, well, man sore
486
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,200
looked out of place.
You look where most was.
487
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,200
No, that was a zone concept.
Clearly where they were because
488
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:56,800
why is most going to be
underneath?
489
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,200
Why is he going to be coming
over top?
490
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,760
Probably a cover 2 concept of
some type, but it was perfect.
491
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:08,240
So going forward, do we hope to
see this more or how can we see
492
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,200
this?
Why such a flip in y'all's
493
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:16,080
opinions?
I think that, you know, just
494
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,320
looking at the way that that
they were attacking us, I think
495
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,320
we looked a lot more prepared on
defense for the offense that
496
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,760
came out and, and what we were
expecting as far as how they
497
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,120
were going to attack our
defense.
498
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:31,120
We we got kind of what we
expected.
499
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,960
I think for I'm not sure what
was going on with the defense
500
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,960
against Vanderbilt, whether it
was, you know, rotations not
501
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,640
being what they wanted to be,
whether it was just not truly
502
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,400
being prepared scheme wise to
approach that shotgun triple
503
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040
option look.
But we did not look like a
504
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,480
prepared defense.
We looked a lot more prepared
505
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,640
this week.
We we looked like we were, we
506
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,440
knew what was coming at us and
we knew how to adjust to that.
507
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,560
So that's the big difference for
me.
508
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:10,080
And I think when you have that,
when you have a offense that you
509
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,640
can actually pin your ears back
a little bit more and go after
510
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,160
that lets you play more man, you
can mix up your man a lot more.
511
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,400
And, and I think that's where
our bread and butter is, is when
512
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,000
we can go after the pass or play
a lot more man, We, we look a
513
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,880
lot better as a defense.
Yeah, I mean, they definitely,
514
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,520
they definitely seem more
confident and, you know,
515
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,800
obviously Marshall runs the air
raid.
516
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,240
So, you know, expect him to
throw a lot more.
517
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,800
But I just thought they're more
aggressive, more confident.
518
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,440
And you know, with with Elaine,
honestly, I was, I was never
519
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,000
worried about Monsoor for a
second.
520
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,200
Like, you know, he he he had two
years of a really good body of
521
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,880
work, played one board game.
You know, he's been a he's been
522
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,120
a baller since day one.
So you kind of figure out he's
523
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,320
going to have a have a bounce
back and credits to credits to
524
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,360
PB on on Hokie Twitter for this
stat.
525
00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:02,720
So the 9, the 9 PB us for the
Hokies were the most since 2016.
526
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,520
That was Fuente's first season
against Miami, so pretty, pretty
527
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,720
impressive.
Pretty impressive streak there.
528
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,480
All right, Miranda, you got
anything on this, Anything on
529
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,840
the past breaks UPS, anything
you saw while watching the game
530
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,320
Saturday?
Say I'm just echo everything and
531
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,960
to me it just you come out with
swagger, you know, turn around
532
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,560
game after.
And like Brian said, maybe it's
533
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,560
a matter of just true.
You have the tape.
534
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,640
You played this team last year,
you were just more prepared to
535
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,560
be in the right place at the
right time and it wasn't.
536
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,040
You didn't have to make those on
the fly adjustments, but
537
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,800
whatever it was, it worked.
So more of that.
538
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,800
All right, I'm going.
I'm going to answer this
539
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,440
question real quick here.
They had 20 more passing
540
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,640
attempts.
Robbie been the only passing
541
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,920
ball 16 times.
Marshall went 436.
542
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:07,880
So obviously more opportunities,
but seriously 16 to 3036 is not
543
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,400
a six 100% gain on that so.
Don't fucking remind me.
544
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,720
Yes, all.
Right.
545
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,680
Let me go real quick, last one,
and we'll pitch it to Miranda.
546
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,440
Give me your exact feelings on
the Steven Gosnell catch.
547
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:36,040
Oh my gosh, I I was drinking a
lot of beers and I, I think I
548
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,480
was sitting down and I like
slammed my beard down and just
549
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,680
went insane.
And my parents, I think my dad
550
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,760
was like outside grilling or
something and he like runs his
551
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080
eyes like what happened?
And I was like, we have to
552
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,560
rewind this.
And then of course that
553
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,240
pictures.
It should be in the Louvre.
554
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,240
I mean, it's beautiful.
It was insane.
555
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:03,840
It was so freaking clutch.
He, he had to work so hard for
556
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,960
that.
Like, that's not a given catch
557
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,040
to anybody.
It's, it was lovely.
558
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,720
Dare I say, what a guy.
Cole Esque.
559
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:13,680
Danny.
Cole Esque.
560
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:20,920
Dare I say oh.
Me Shelton, he's a dog man.
561
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,600
Where where were you?
Where were you in relation to
562
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,640
where that was?
Because the.
563
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,960
So I actually, I actually, yes,
I was on the closer to the, to
564
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,680
the north side, closer to the
student section, about 5 hours
565
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,320
or so actually.
I could not see Steven when he
566
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,920
landed on the ground.
So I was kind of waiting on the
567
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,640
reaction from everyone else.
I saw him, I saw him die for it,
568
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,960
but didn't see him at the catch.
But yeah, he's, I mean, we got,
569
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,040
we got to find a way to get him
get more targets, man.
570
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,400
He's just, he's a, he's a dog.
Yeah, we, we've got, we've got a
571
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,800
very good problem right now,
which is how to feed all of
572
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,480
these dogs on our unit.
Because we, we have a bunch of
573
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,160
them and we got a a handful of
them waiting in the wings too.
574
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,360
So we got plenty of mouths to
feed.
575
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,040
So it's a very good problem to
have.
576
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,440
I'd like to see us do a little
bit more of it, especially if we
577
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,720
can get the running game going
early to set them up for some
578
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,920
big plays later in the game.
So 100%, by the way, Steven
579
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,280
Gosnell leading the team and
receiving yards right now at
580
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,920
126.
Who had that on their bingo card
581
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,880
after week two?
I mean, I I love the guy with I
582
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,400
don't think any of us had that
on their on.
583
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Our bingo card.
Nope, not at all.
584
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,920
Maybe I would have had them on
my bingo card for converting
585
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,160
third downs because that's what
he does all the time.
586
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,400
All righty, let's go with it.
We went well, some a lot of more
587
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,000
good things this week, but let's
go with what went bad.
588
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,280
And I think we're all there and
we, we kind of hit it a little
589
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,840
bit already and it's just
another slow start on offense.
590
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,560
Not the first drive, the first
drive we get into the territory
591
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,520
we need to get into, get down to
the 35 and everything stalls.
592
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,920
But it was the subsequent after
that.
593
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,960
And again, Brian, you mentioned
a few minutes ago, not until
594
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,080
really the J Lane touchdown do
we get sparked.
595
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,280
So, you know, we're, we've
talked about it a lot already.
596
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,960
I mean, is this the week that
everything changes?
597
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,800
You, you hope it is right.
You hope, you hope it is and you
598
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,200
know, you hope that we can
finally get past this, this
599
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,520
confidence issue.
And I feel like it it kind of
600
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,200
it's snake bit US against
Vanderbilt.
601
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,720
We came out, we didn't, we had a
couple drives that didn't go
602
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,400
well.
Then we have the turnover on the
603
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,680
tipped screen pass and then it
feels like, you know, we're kind
604
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,160
of getting in our own way a
little bit.
605
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,680
And I, I think it's still a
confidence issue.
606
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,840
And I'm hoping that we've kind
of gotten that past us a little
607
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,720
bit because we've seen the
ability of this team, even with
608
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,160
the offensive line struggles
we've had, we've seen that they
609
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,200
have the ability to put up
points and score the football.
610
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,800
We just got to be consistent and
we got to be able to do it
611
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,960
coming out of the gate.
Miranda, you follow NFL teams.
612
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,240
What do you see and what do you
read when there's there's a
613
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,280
struggle out of the gate with
NFL teams?
614
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:16,120
Preparedness, I mean, going back
to that and I really would I
615
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:22,199
would look at coaching like why
is your team also?
616
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,600
Well, let me let me back up
because the NFL because I
617
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,639
followed the draft so closely
and the team in the off, you see
618
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:34,000
that the offensive line can
shift a lot, right.
619
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,440
But like you have a whole
offseason and Pry said it before
620
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,320
the game opener against Vandy.
He said this is like we feel the
621
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:47,719
best about this line.
And he he had the confidence out
622
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,480
loud.
But it doesn't necessarily, you
623
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,880
know, crystallize on the field
like Brian said, like out the
624
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,440
gates.
And you just wonder.
625
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,400
It's like, do we try something
else?
626
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,080
At at what point do we try
something else?
627
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,600
At what point is it because it
is Cape?
628
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,680
They are capable, but it's
inconsistent and that can be
629
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,680
frustrating to watch when you
have all these weapons that are
630
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,040
just waiting in the wings, you
know?
631
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,840
Yeah, it's very true.
Sheldon, anything with you?
632
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,320
Let's just kind of put the cap
on the bat and to think about
633
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,120
it.
Yeah, I mean, you know, online
634
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,400
wise, obviously struggled to run
the ball in the first half.
635
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,000
Ken Moore did not grid out
particularly well at right guard
636
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,600
and honestly, lathe Gannon
really struggled left guard to
637
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,840
being, you know, they had to so
much so that they had to kind of
638
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,920
take him out towards the end
there.
639
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,880
But he he graded out a 43 and
really and and and run blocking.
640
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,760
So, you know, they they made a
change there.
641
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,000
I also think, you know, like I
said, they they struggled to
642
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,800
identify some of those edge edge
blitzes and blitzes.
643
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,000
And I would assume that's
probably a protection issue and
644
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000
drones was pressured on 50% of
his drop backs.
645
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,400
So that's not it's not a good
number.
646
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,280
It's got to get better.
I think it just I just think
647
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,760
it's, it starts with the
protection.
648
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,080
And again, part of that's
Chiron, part of that's
649
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,000
receivers, part of that's O
line.
650
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,960
Like there's, I mean, there's a
lot of blame to go around, but I
651
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,360
just think everything was out of
sync in that that first half.
652
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,240
Part, I just think part of that
is establishing the run early
653
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,280
and get your quarterback
comfortable with those, you
654
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,800
know, low hanging fruit, those
easy completions, getting
655
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,120
everyone comfortable.
And I thought they did a pretty
656
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,960
good job with that on the 1st
drive and then it stalled.
657
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,680
And then I feel like they went
away from that.
658
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,600
They, they didn't get him
comfortable in the passing game
659
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,280
at that point going forward
throughout the rest of the first
660
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,680
quarter and most of the second
quarter.
661
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,320
And I think that was probably
where the, where the struggles
662
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,080
were is that, you know, you lose
a little bit of that confidence
663
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,720
and then you're kind of back at
square one.
664
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:49,520
Because when your offensive line
is inconsistent, it makes it, it
665
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,360
makes it a lot harder to play
quarterback just plain and
666
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,480
simple.
Because some, because if if
667
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,200
you're getting sacked, you're
getting chased around, sometimes
668
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,240
you're seeing ghosts.
There's a lot of things that
669
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:01,760
happened there when when you
have a offensive line that's
670
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,320
very inconsistent.
Let me ask you this, Brian, and
671
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,480
this is this is almost an
offseason topic.
672
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,400
We always hear we're trying to
mix and make guys learn
673
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,120
positions.
Is that something maybe what
674
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,520
what we have we don't have the
capability to do on the
675
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,160
offensive line.
If you're a right guard you
676
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,160
that's where you're going to
play.
677
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,080
You're going to learn every
step.
678
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,680
You're going to learn every play
from there versus, well, now
679
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,920
you're going to try left and now
we're going to put you out at
680
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,040
right.
Could that be an issue with the
681
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,840
offensive line?
It's the muscle memory in there
682
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,160
with these guys and they just
don't have the capability
683
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,880
because we understand why you
want to do it.
684
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,000
You want to be prepared if
somebody goes down, but it
685
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,800
doesn't matter if you can't
execute the play.
686
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,560
Yeah.
I mean, cross training is
687
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,240
important and we've, we've
talked about on here how
688
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:49,200
important it is to, to cross
train, especially the offensive
689
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,280
line, having that position
flexibility to be able to play
690
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,600
guard and tackle.
We got a bunch of guys that can
691
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,640
play guard and tackle.
We got a bunch of guys that can
692
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,600
play, you know, right guard,
left guard.
693
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,840
We got a couple guys that are
kind of moving from guard to
694
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,720
center.
We are really our, our two
695
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:09,320
primary centers are guards that
have been kind of moved into
696
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,120
that spot, right.
So that's part of the problem.
697
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:18,480
I I think if it were me, I would
have probably left Kaden at
698
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:22,680
center and, you know, maybe
maybe stood pat with that.
699
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,000
I think what they were trying to
do with that is they wanted to
700
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,560
get that that Caden Parker
tandem back that I think they
701
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,080
thought that worked a little bit
better.
702
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:38,240
And then have Xavier, who is
played admirably at that left
703
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:41,560
tackle along with a younger guy
on the left side there.
704
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:45,080
I just think maybe it's still
taking time to gel.
705
00:38:45,720 --> 00:38:48,120
Things don't always happen out
the gate.
706
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,920
It's a big difference when you
start playing teams with
707
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,440
different colored jerseys on.
So it does take some time for
708
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,440
that adjustment to take place.
So I'm not saying that it's not
709
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,880
time to look for answers, but
I'm also saying let's let's be a
710
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,120
little bit patient because as
much as we want to win every
711
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,920
game on our schedule, those ACC
matchups are going to be a whole
712
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,520
lot more important than a
Vanderbilt or an ODU teams that
713
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,560
we, you know, match up very well
against from a talent
714
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:25,240
standpoint. 100% all righty,
just a couple more things on
715
00:39:25,240 --> 00:39:30,760
what went bad, y'all.
I know we talked about the good
716
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:35,240
special teams and I feel as far
as the punt return goes, as far
717
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:37,080
as the kickers go, they're
excellent.
718
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,400
But this is again the second
straight week with a massive
719
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,040
gaff and it really gave Marshall
life.
720
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,840
When we have a block kick and I
got a little Miranda, you listen
721
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,960
to the presser, I was there not
far behind you.
722
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,120
Were you a little bit perturbed
when Brent Price said or they
723
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,440
brought a guy off the edge and
we didn't know what to do?
724
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,680
He said he said the quiet part
out loud.
725
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,320
He did.
I know.
726
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,880
But were you perturbed by that?
Because I'm sure in your head,
727
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,560
while you're listening, it's
like, well, coach, wouldn't you
728
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,600
just we haven't seen this.
We have 3.
729
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,720
Let's readjust, right?
Yeah.
730
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,080
I I, I think that's a trend
we're seeing is that sometimes I
731
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:28,240
think Brent is a little slow to
take a time out just because
732
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,360
there's a problem.
I think he sees things a little
733
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,600
bit quicker on on defense and I
think he's a little more attuned
734
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,720
on offense.
I think we're seeing that maybe
735
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,920
there's a little bit of delay
with that decision making when
736
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,320
it comes to special teams just
because there are different
737
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:48,520
moving parts that he's not as
familiar with with that unit.
738
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,160
So yeah, that may just be a gap
that he's still adjusting to at
739
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,720
this point as far as how to make
those decisions in game.
740
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,840
Showing anything you were there
live and actually that happened
741
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:04,800
towards the North End, right?
Oh, wow, yeah, yeah, I did.
742
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:09,720
I mean, I thought I thought
Peter was a little bit slow to.
743
00:41:10,240 --> 00:41:12,800
I could I could see it coming
from, I don't know, like when
744
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480
they got their rush off, I was
like, this does not look good.
745
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,760
I thought, I thought Peter was a
little bit slow getting the pun
746
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,040
off.
But, you know, Coach Price said
747
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,640
that, you know, they hadn't seen
that look before where basically
748
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,960
the the guy guarding the
receiver bails.
749
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,200
And it was it was a great play
called by by Marshall.
750
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:35,240
You bail right before laterally
and then the second ball
751
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:36,400
snapped.
You, you know, go for the
752
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,120
punter.
I don't know if maybe Marshall
753
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,280
saw something on the film that,
you know, they felt like they
754
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,240
they could get away with that.
Certainly possible.
755
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:48,840
But I, I think you should give
it a little bit of credit just
756
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,440
because from what probably was
saying like that's not a, that's
757
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,080
not a play call you see very
often.
758
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:56,560
And they, they talked with some
NFL teams like about, about
759
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,760
that, that play.
And I guess, you know, it
760
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,320
happens once every so often.
But yeah, I don't know.
761
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,520
I mean, I guess you should be
prepared for everything.
762
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,680
But it seems like they they just
don't really see a lot.
763
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,120
All righty.
Well, let's go to the things we
764
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,760
were not prepared for.
Miranda, your shot, anything in
765
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,800
the game you were not prepared
for statistically in game,
766
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:22,200
etcetera.
I think and Shelton, you can
767
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,120
correct me if I'm wrong, but I
thought I had read that we had
768
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,320
an we gave up another 4 sacks
this week for a second week in a
769
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,360
row.
Is that right?
770
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,640
I can Fact Check once.
And it's so again, you know, and
771
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:43,080
I hate to like shit on the
online consistently, but I you
772
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,200
just can't do that.
Like, you know, because I say
773
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,440
all these other things like, oh,
we couldn't get third down
774
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,240
going.
We couldn't do this.
775
00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:53,000
Well, yeah, you can't when
you're when your guy is getting,
776
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:58,000
you know, and I know 4 isn't
like outrageous, but that's two
777
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:03,600
weeks in a row, 4 sacks.
It's just I thought we would
778
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:08,320
come out a little bit, a little
bit more prepared than that all.
779
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,440
Right, and it was 4.
All right, OK.
780
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,840
It was 4 sacks.
It was 4 sacks.
781
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,320
So yeah, Sheldon, you were
there.
782
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,120
You obviously probably watch
some of the tape.
783
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,400
We know you do you read up some
of the stats.
784
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,400
What about you?
Anything you want to say?
785
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,960
Yeah, not prefer I I would say,
you know, I I wouldn't call it
786
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:32,640
lackluster, but I've a little
bit disappointed by the passing
787
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,320
game.
Just seems like it hasn't been,
788
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,120
you know, quite clicking and,
you know, I'd love to get
789
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,120
Brian's thoughts on this, but it
seems to me like I Vt is it's
790
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,880
been after run ball well to to
move the ball.
791
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,720
I think drones is not a
prototypical drop back passer.
792
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:50,560
I think he's best when he's
doing RP OS bootlegs, you know,
793
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,040
get it out in space, get away
from the online, you know, throw
794
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,080
down field.
It just seems like other teams
795
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,920
are forcing him to, you know,
kind of sit back in the pocket
796
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,160
and dissect zone defenses, you
know, cover 3, cover 4, and I
797
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,480
think he's kind of struggled
with that.
798
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,360
So, you know, that's been
something that I was certainly
799
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,080
hoping for a little bit more
there, you know, just because
800
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,400
of, you know, what we expected
with his development in passing
801
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,160
game.
It just hasn't quite been there.
802
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:16,000
I think right now it seems kind
of off.
803
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,520
You look at the targets, you
know, some guys aren't getting a
804
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,600
ton of catches that you you
would normally expect.
805
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,880
So I, I certainly think the
passing game leaves a little bit
806
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,800
to be desired.
And I was a little bit
807
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,800
underwhelmed by, you know, kind
of what we've seen through
808
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,880
through two games and certainly
on Saturday.
809
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:32,520
Yeah.
And Sean kind of hit it on the
810
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,960
head there.
I, I, I think Kyron does a lot
811
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,360
better when with the RP OS, when
you can move the pocket, get
812
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,120
those half field, you know, 1-2
like a high, low read and things
813
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:45,600
like that.
I think he does a lot better
814
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:50,800
with those things and, and it's
a lot to process if you're, if
815
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:55,560
you've got a full field, you
know, 3 or 4 progression read
816
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:02,240
and you know, defenses are in
your lap a little bit because
817
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:03,880
offensive line's a little
inconsistent.
818
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,920
So I think it's the combination
of those things where we're
819
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,280
we're dropping straight back in
those in those, you know, three
820
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,160
and five step drops a little bit
more than we did last year where
821
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:18,800
it was more RP OS move in the
pocket, letting Kyron do what he
822
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,440
does best, which is deliver a
ball kind of off platform on the
823
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,800
run.
He is very accurate and and very
824
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,760
good at doing those things.
I just think we haven't seen a
825
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,120
lot of those, but I feel like we
get better when we when we start
826
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,680
throwing some of those elements
in there.
827
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,440
I think some of those big plays
that we saw against Vanderbilt
828
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:41,280
were off of that type of action
to to get Ollie Jennings open
829
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,920
one time, to get Jay Lane open
one time.
830
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,400
There's there's a couple of big
plays we saw against Vanderbilt.
831
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,000
We're off of that.
I think we need to kind of maybe
832
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,080
get back to our identity and
understand that maybe
833
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,400
simplifying things a little bit
is the way to go because we hope
834
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,360
we saw success with that.
And I think the other thing with
835
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,520
the passing game is that, you
know, I don't think we can go
836
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,360
another game with with Ollie
Jennings registering AA0.
837
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,760
You got you got to get him the
ball.
838
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:16,200
He is too talented not to be
able to get behind the defense.
839
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,160
And I, and I think they were
doing a good job of like not
840
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,360
letting us take the top off the
the defense.
841
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,480
They they definitely were saying
if you want to matriculate the
842
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,000
ball down the field in the
passing game, by all means,
843
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,000
we're not going to play a lot of
man.
844
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,120
We're going to play zone.
We're going to make you throw
845
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,680
into tight windows.
These are not things that I
846
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,120
think are our strengths.
I think I think we can do them,
847
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:39,720
but they're definitely not our
strengths.
848
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,440
I think we need to again, lean
on the running game.
849
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:46,360
So they have to get out of that
look where they can't just sit
850
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,640
back and wait on us to do
something underneath.
851
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,480
So that, that that's my take
there.
852
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,600
And I think if we do that, we'll
be OK.
853
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,720
Understood, Understood.
I mine was what turn around for
854
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:01,680
the linebackers.
That room was we, we in here,
855
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,440
we, we, we game a little bit of
a shellacking last week, all
856
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,520
intentions purposes for good,
but they played so significantly
857
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,800
better.
They were in the right spots
858
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,520
with the exception of the one
big play, the 69 yard run to AJ
859
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,680
Turner.
You take away that big run, it
860
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:25,680
was 25 for 70 per run.
That's well under that's
861
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,360
borderline like like 2.3, which
is nothing.
862
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,640
So just but it's good to see it.
That's the confidence growing
863
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,000
and that's what I like to see.
Brian, we're going to we're
864
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,680
going to wrap this up real quick
because it is getting late.
865
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,640
We don't want Miranda to miss
her bedtime.
866
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:41,360
Can't mess with.
Them.
867
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,960
Ain't the only one, but Brian,
one thing you feel we've got to
868
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:52,040
do this better moving forward
against ODUN the rest of the
869
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,200
season.
I mean it's low hanging free,
870
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,800
right with pass protection.
If, if we can give our
871
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,680
quarterback a little bit more
time, if we can do those little
872
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,200
things better in the passing
game with communication of blitz
873
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,920
pick up, I think we're going to
be in a good position going
874
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,760
forward because we know the
talent at the skill positions
875
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,240
are there.
So take take care of your
876
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:16,520
quarterback block for your
running back.
877
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,120
Good things are going to happen.
Sean, what about you?
878
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,800
Yeah.
Well, to to hammer home your
879
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,040
point about the rush defense,
that 69 yarder was really the
880
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,800
one they play that Marshall had.
And it goes to show how averages
881
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,800
can be misleading because I
think, I think Marshall's
882
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:40,120
average yards per carry. 5.7
Right 5.7.
883
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,240
Right.
But you take that, you take that
884
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,920
69 yarder out and look at it, I
think it was, I think it was
885
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,320
under 3.
So that's why we have stats like
886
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,400
success rate, which look at, you
know, if you were successful on
887
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,760
each play.
And I don't think I wasn't quite
888
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,800
able to get rushing success rate
from that game in particular.
889
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,720
But you look at run stuff rate,
Stuff rate is the percentage of
890
00:49:01,720 --> 00:49:04,560
runs that are stopped at or
behind the line of scrimmage.
891
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:08,040
So Tech had a 15% run stuff rate
against Marshall on defense.
892
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,880
That's really good.
That was the bottom, bottom
893
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,200
first percentile for all FBS
games this year.
894
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,040
So they were, they were really
good.
895
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,800
Just, you know, forcing, forcing
0 or negative yardage plays was
896
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,640
really helpful.
So again, yards per carry
897
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,840
averages can be misleading.
Sometimes you take out the big
898
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,120
gainers, look at just, you know,
success rate on a, you know,
899
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:27,920
down by down basis.
Tech did a really good job
900
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,520
defensively.
Miranda, one thing you've got to
901
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,840
you feel we have to do better
moving forward.
902
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,040
Bryant said the word earlier and
I'm just going to steal it, but
903
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:45,240
bring the damn swagger.
Like not an not an official game
904
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:48,000
note, but like come out.
I don't even care.
905
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,200
Come out cocky.
It might bite us in the ass, but
906
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,560
get out there like you.
We do have the playmakers to be
907
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,520
cocky about.
Do what we do best.
908
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,080
Let's see what happens.
We've played this team.
909
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,640
This isn't a new team.
Like we don't have that excuse.
910
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,360
So we believe we're prepared,
right?
911
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,760
Run the ball.
That's right, run the ball.
912
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,680
That's our buddy coach Robbie
Compton, who's going to be in
913
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,640
the head coaching chair as his
head coach is going to be out
914
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,160
for six weeks with a foot
surgery.
915
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,280
So Robbie's going to be running
defense and running head coach
916
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,200
down in North Carolina high
school ball.
917
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,120
Robbie, godspeed.
I'm going to close this out real
918
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,920
quick and I'm going to steal
this Andy Bitter shout out.
919
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,920
I listened to Tech sideline the
other day.
920
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,920
Love those guys over there.
And he said it.
921
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,640
He's like we've got to establish
the identity.
922
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,040
And I mentioned to y'all in here
a little while ago and to a
923
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,200
couple other people.
When we established our identity
924
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,480
last year, Ali wasn't here,
Gosnell wasn't quite there yet.
925
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:54,560
Developmentally, we really
didn't have a tight end threat.
926
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,360
It was Kwan and it was Jay Lane
along with Tutor and drones.
927
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,120
RP OS.
We ran the ball, read options,
928
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,360
we ran, we got them set up.
We took shots, we found RP OS,
929
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,560
little post, little slants.
We've got to establish the
930
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,080
identity and this is the week
it's got to start.
931
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,760
Last year took the week five,
this year it's got to be at week
932
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,120
3 and I think that is going to
be what we said.
933
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,040
Put it back up there.
What Robbie said just a second
934
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,080
ago.
It starts with running the ball.
935
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,680
Run the ball.
Everything else will flow
936
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,840
downhill naturally.
Miranda, we appreciate you
937
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,080
coming on with us tonight.
Thanks for having me, that was
938
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,640
fun.
And we we thank you for joining
939
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,840
us because the honest truth,
it's awesome.
940
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,280
I I read the articles.
You were doing a fantastic job.
941
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,680
If y'all have not go to
boundarycornerbt.com.
942
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,720
Check out both of Miranda's
articles and little game recaps
943
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:53,760
with some little news notes, her
takes.
944
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,880
It's entertaining.
I'm going to say that it it
945
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,720
will.
Definitely keep.
946
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,400
I've got a style.
You definitely do.
947
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,920
But listen, you take care.
We will definitely have you back
948
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,560
on very shortly and appreciate
it.
949
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,120
Take care.
All your time with Gary.
950
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:11,160
Bye.
All righty.
951
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:16,240
So as you all know, we are
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952
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953
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954
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enemy.
And tonight we actually have a
955
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,680
special guest, one of the first
time we've ever done this.
956
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:36,760
So Brian, you've been talking
with our our guest tonight, so
957
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,040
I'll let you do the
introduction.
958
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,480
No problem, no problem.
So as you guys know, we are a
959
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,600
college huddle podcast here.
And one of the big benefits of
960
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,760
being a part of something like
that is that you get to
961
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,600
communicate with these other
podcasts throughout the country,
962
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,160
especially when you got common
opponents and things like that.
963
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:54,760
It's going to be a big boost for
us.
964
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,840
And one of the things we can do
is get a guy in here to talk
965
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,320
about a team like ODU that knows
them like the back of his hand,
966
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,920
just like we do Virginia Tech.
So we're going to welcome Gary
967
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,520
Williams on with the ODU
Monarchist.
968
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,280
Gary, how you doing tonight?
I'm doing great, thank you all
969
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,520
for having me on.
Appreciate you joining us
970
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,320
tonight, Gary, and taking a
little bit out of time.
971
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,240
Gary.
Also, we saw you are here in the
972
00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:21,960
RVA with us.
So that's great to hear.
973
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,480
We got a lot of RVA podcasts
going on.
974
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,560
Just give us a little bit of
insight yourself how this
975
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:33,680
started with your your podcast
and what you do for fun.
976
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,560
Yeah, well, I graduated from ODU
in the spring of 2009, so I was
977
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,480
like just a couple months away
from football, restarting there
978
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,880
in the fall.
You know, I've been fully
979
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,000
involved with the team in some
capacity since then as a fan,
980
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,720
alumni, donor, all that good
stuff.
981
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,680
But there are our group ODU
Monarch is we started as a like
982
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,960
a Twitter DM group chat back in
2019.
983
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,480
And you know, 2019 for us, that
was the one in 11 season.
984
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,840
It was not a whole lot of fun.
So we're kind of looking for
985
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,040
people that were like, all
right, we know we're awful this
986
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:05,520
year.
We've got stuff to look forward
987
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,960
to, kind of like minded people
that trying to be a little more
988
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:13,320
positive about ODU football.
So it evolved from that to a
989
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,800
tailgate group.
And then in 2022 we launched a
990
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,400
podcast mainly just covering
football and men's basketball, a
991
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,720
couple of other things.
Now we are we have our website
992
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:25,440
as well, ODU monarchist.com.
So we pretty much cover every
993
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,680
sport at ODUA.
Couple different podcasts now,
994
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,560
including the official men's
basketball show for ODU.
995
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,760
We are big partners with the
Pride of ODUNIL Collective when
996
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,840
that came online.
So we do a lot of in person
997
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,840
events with them, podcast,
different things like that, just
998
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:46,960
doing everything we can to
promote ODU athletics, our our
999
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,320
student athletes.
Then the other wing of what we
1000
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,520
do is is really focused on
charities in the 757 every year,
1001
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,840
usually our last foot home
football game, we partner with
1002
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,320
the Marine Corps to do a Toys
for Tots drive.
1003
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,040
So each year we've exceeded our
goals there.
1004
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,200
The Marines bring out some like
armored personnel carriers that
1005
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,320
kids can play in and we fill it
up with toys.
1006
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,240
We get the F18 flyovers, all
that fun stuff.
1007
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:13,280
So just kind of looking to serve
the community and also, you
1008
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,600
know, taking care of what we
love, and that's Old Dominion
1009
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,880
athletics.
That's awesome, man.
1010
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,360
I'd love to hear that.
I'd love to hear how you're
1011
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,520
involved in the community, how
you kind of got a great
1012
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,960
relationship with the school
there.
1013
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,240
So it, you know, looks like you
guys are hitting it on all
1014
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,280
fronts.
So that congratulations on that
1015
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,440
and well done.
Yeah, Thank you.
1016
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,840
We're still trying to just grow
this thing as big as possible
1017
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,520
right now.
Send or reach a bit.
1018
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,080
Very nice year.
Good luck to y'all on that man.
1019
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,160
Obviously, both of us being a
part of the College Huddle
1020
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,160
Network, we wish y'all nothing
but the best.
1021
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,080
And obviously it's great to have
that chance to create these
1022
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,040
relationships where when our
teams play each other, we can
1023
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,200
get a little insight for the
other team.
1024
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,760
And let's start with that
tonight because I want to start
1025
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:59,640
with the ODU defense because
right now I got a feeling you're
1026
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,680
going to tell me things aren't
going great because from the
1027
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,160
look of it, you guys are one O 8
in rush defense.
1028
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,640
So give me a little background
and what we should expect from
1029
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:14,480
defensive coordinator brakes
liars 335 defense.
1030
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:17,560
And you know, what sort of
identity is he trying to
1031
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,960
establish with that look?
Yeah, well, defense is actually
1032
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,640
the stronger side of the ball
right now.
1033
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,760
I know they're they're lower in
those rankings.
1034
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,080
We played at South Carolina,
played against East Carolina and
1035
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,560
a lot of the points that the
defense has given up is because
1036
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,680
they're on the field so much.
Last weekend against East
1037
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,840
Carolina was really like our
almost almost most even time of
1038
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,880
possession game.
But you go look at South
1039
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,200
Carolina, some of the games last
year, our defense is on the
1040
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,720
field for 3839 minutes a game.
So fourth quarter, getting
1041
00:56:45,720 --> 00:56:49,720
gassed a little bit, but you're
going to see some 335, you're
1042
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,920
going to see some 326, You're
going to see some funky looking
1043
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,920
nickel coverages, 3 safety
packages.
1044
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,240
You're going to see a lot out of
the defense.
1045
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,720
You probably won't see the same
look twice either up front or
1046
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:04,240
back in the secondary.
When Blake Tyler originally came
1047
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,960
to ODU, we actually ran a 425.
We're actually in pretty good
1048
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,480
shape with that.
We kind of have adjusted based
1049
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,000
on personnel, but you're going
to see a lot of blitzes from a
1050
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,320
lot of different places.
We blitz a lot, whether it's
1051
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,800
from one of the linebackers,
safeties, corners.
1052
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,320
We try to vary it up quite a bit
now.
1053
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,480
South Carolina ran the ball
pretty well against us.
1054
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,600
If you look at the total yards,
they're still around like 3.1
1055
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,760
yards per carry.
We did probably our best job
1056
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,200
defensively stopping their kind
of power run, power option
1057
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,400
looks.
I think they went into that game
1058
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,440
saying we're in the SEC, we're
bigger than you in the trenches
1059
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,320
and we're just going to run all
over you.
1060
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,680
They were doing OK with that,
but we were able to kind of get
1061
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,800
a lot of stops on on 3rd down
South.
1062
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,360
You know, both of the touchdowns
South Carolina scored were off
1063
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,320
of fumbles and they started
inside our 10 yard line.
1064
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,160
So we're we're kind of going
into Saturday thinking we
1065
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,400
probably should be two and O, we
just shot ourselves in the foot
1066
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,240
way too much.
All right.
1067
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,000
So that that's that's a good
amount of confidence and I can
1068
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,520
appreciate that.
And and, you know, as a team
1069
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:11,760
that's coming off playing a
Marshall team that was really
1070
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,240
good up front, even if they were
a little weaker on the back end.
1071
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,200
Yeah, telling us that that you
were going to have some blitzes
1072
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,800
and struggling with some blitz
pick up.
1073
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,040
That's definitely something we
got to keep our eye on because
1074
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,440
we've struggled with that so
far.
1075
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,440
So we're we're we're talking
about, you know, what you do.
1076
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,720
Let's talk about who does it.
What are some of the playmakers
1077
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,440
on this defense?
Yeah, there's a there's quite a
1078
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:37,240
few that have stood out early in
the season for us.
1079
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,160
Cohen, no Itala, he is filled in
at linebacker a lot for Jason
1080
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,440
Henderson, who's not fully back
yet.
1081
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,520
I think he had 18 tackles on
Saturday against East Carolina.
1082
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,360
You won't you won't be able to
miss him if he's on the field.
1083
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:53,040
He has a nice Troy Palomalu flow
coming out the back of that
1084
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,400
thing.
But he's usually a weak side
1085
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,120
linebacker in the 335 or the
326.
1086
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,280
He's he's on that side.
Jeron Manning, JUCO transfer
1087
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,400
that came in this year.
He's back at safety.
1088
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,720
He's usually one of the three
safeties that's back there.
1089
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:12,360
He is probably our our best guy
in the secondary.
1090
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,400
He can do it all.
He's a bigger safety so he can
1091
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,760
come up and run support, grading
coverage.
1092
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,480
Had two interceptions against
East Carolina on Saturday.
1093
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,960
He's a ball hawk.
He he runs fast and he hits
1094
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,640
very, very hard.
So those are two guys to look
1095
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,240
at.
I know everyone probably wants
1096
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:32,640
to hear about Jason Henderson.
He tore his ACL with about three
1097
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,680
games left to go in the season.
Tried to make a go of it in the
1098
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,240
South Carolina game, but you
could clearly see he was he was
1099
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,680
dragging that leg.
I mean, he's not a super tall
1100
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,680
guy, but he's really well built
and you can actually like see
1101
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,480
the size difference in his legs
from where he's been recovering.
1102
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,880
So he did not play against East
Carolina.
1103
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,320
Don't know if he's going to play
on Saturday.
1104
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,080
I would be surprised.
I think with us having a bye
1105
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,880
week and then going to Bowling
Green, we're probably trying to
1106
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,240
take care of him the best we can
because he's likely to get
1107
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,920
drafted.
But also like we're our, our
1108
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,760
focus is really going to be on
winning Sunbelt games and try to
1109
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,800
get in the Sunbelt championship
game at this point.
1110
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,520
So you know, he's not likely to
see him, but I'm sure you
1111
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,040
remember from a couple years ago
when he was a little bit younger
1112
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,720
out there at linebacker and he's
just, he's a high motor guy.
1113
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,040
He's the heart and soul of the
defense.
1114
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,360
But they've done a really good
job in his absence.
1115
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,880
Yeah, obviously our, our, this
is our, this is our other Co
1116
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,640
host Jonathan Talley, who's a
little under the weather
1117
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,280
tonight.
He is right.
1118
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,480
Henderson is a stud and from our
vantage point, we're the
1119
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,200
opposite of you.
We hope we don't see him
1120
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:35,680
Saturday at all.
Let me throw one other guy out
1121
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,320
there that kind of caught our
eye.
1122
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,080
Give us a little insight on
Mario Thompson.
1123
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,080
Mario Thompson, obviously, you
know, he's a local kid to us
1124
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,760
here in Richmond, Went out,
played Trinity, you know, Three
1125
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,640
Star when he came out a couple
years ago.
1126
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,240
Where do we see him on the
defense?
1127
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,000
Because I know he's considered a
linebacker, but where's he
1128
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,120
playing exactly?
Yeah, you'll, you'll see him at
1129
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,720
linebacker when we have 3
linebacker sets out there.
1130
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,120
A lot of times if we're running
kind of that 326, he is the
1131
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,640
third safety that is on the
field, like technically at
1132
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,880
safety.
So you'll see him line up all
1133
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,760
over.
I mean, he got a lot of playing
1134
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:14,480
time against East Carolina with
Jason Henderson out and he he
1135
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,120
played really, really well.
I think he was second on the
1136
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,720
team in tackles.
I saw him line up with a hand in
1137
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,800
the dirt outside of the
defensive end.
1138
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,400
I saw him middle linebacker and
I saw him basically at the
1139
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,720
sticks 12 yards down the field
on 1/3 and long.
1140
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,280
So he's going to be everywhere.
I think his speed and
1141
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,400
athleticism and being a little
bit leaner than maybe your
1142
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,240
prototypical linebacker, he's
paid some dividends for him.
1143
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,360
He had some great stops in the
game against South Carolina.
1144
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,120
I don't think their quarterback
wants to see Old Dominion again
1145
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,560
because Mario Thompson was in
his face on a lot of those kind
1146
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,760
of boundary type runs and quick
pops and things like that.
1147
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,080
But yeah, he's, I mean, he's
young, he's still developing.
1148
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,840
He hasn't had a ton of playing
time yet.
1149
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,280
But our line backing position
group is without a doubt the
1150
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,840
strength of our team.
I mean, we were missing Jason
1151
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,360
Henderson.
He was kind of on one leg for
1152
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,720
the first game and they were
still our strongest unit.
1153
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,080
So lot to like about him.
KOA EJ Green, who's in the
1154
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,360
second year with us after
transferring him from Duke.
1155
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,280
We we have some dudes at
linebacker and rotate them very,
1156
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,160
very often.
All right.
1157
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,760
So you talked about that
strength.
1158
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,680
Were you going to say Curtis?
I will say I was on AC Bates
1159
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,560
here, Shelton, you didn't have
anything data was that was.
1160
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,000
That you wanted to No, I got I
got a couple in the offense, but
1161
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,880
you can.
Got it, he says.
1162
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,320
He's got his offense and.
Stuff together since we're
1163
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,480
keeping it moving.
You know, you talked about the
1164
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,880
strength of that defense.
Where are some of the areas of
1165
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,640
weakness on the defense?
And like So what?
1166
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,240
Which which area has you most
concerned heading into this game
1167
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,880
on Saturday?
Well, I think the three man
1168
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,200
front is kind of the weakness
for us when they don't have
1169
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,000
someone blitzing in running
blaze and things like that.
1170
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,240
They do fine.
But we saw it in South Carolina,
1171
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,880
saw it a lot against East
Carolina.
1172
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,960
Third and 10 plus we're dropping
8.
1173
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,040
We're rushing 3.
The quarterbacks back there
1174
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,800
baking the cake, doing his
taxes, plenty of time for the
1175
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,520
routes to progress and converted
all but one first down on 3rd
1176
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,040
down when we dropped eight in
coverage when we blitzed, they
1177
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,760
only converted one for the whole
game.
1178
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:19,600
So I think it's more from a play
calling standpoint of if, if
1179
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,560
we're in 3rd and long, we have
to blitz otherwise we're not
1180
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,000
going to be successful.
They're they're that defense is
1181
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,200
at its best when it's very, very
aggressive and blitzing a lot
1182
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,240
may get a get burned every now
and then.
1183
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,560
We got burned on two runs
against East Carolina with it.
1184
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:36,440
But sending 3 and dropping 8 is
basically my nightmare when I
1185
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,440
see it unfold on the field and
I'm just ducking my head until I
1186
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,880
hear a whistle and I'm hoping
it's not because someone's in
1187
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,920
the end zone.
So you're you're not getting
1188
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,440
home with three very often then?
No, no, you're three on five,
1189
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,920
especially if they're SEC East
Carolina had a great front 7.
1190
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,120
And I know Tech's defensive
front is really, really tough
1191
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,760
too.
So our offensive front is is
1192
01:03:57,760 --> 01:03:59,240
pretty tough.
So yeah, three minute front's
1193
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:00,760
not going to get it done.
We got at least send one
1194
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,320
linebacker to make things spicy.
Now let me ask this because with
1195
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:07,720
that 35 do y'all have a true
nose or are y'all playing more
1196
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,360
of like what is it Brian?
Probably like a 2 shade eye
1197
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,720
trying to make it off like off
centered inside there.
1198
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:18,320
Yeah, we're, we're usually off
center.
1199
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,920
We don't necessarily have a true
nose tackle.
1200
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:24,960
You know, Denzel Lowry is
probably that guy.
1201
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,920
Where's #8 up the middle.
He's had some pretty good
1202
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,800
success there.
But typically we are shading to
1203
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,400
one side or the other because
usually someone's either firing
1204
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,920
from a gap or firing from the
outside, from the linebacker,
1205
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:37,840
the secondary.
So we're trying to create the
1206
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:39,960
that leverage on the offensive
line.
1207
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,480
Yeah, usually that's more of a
one gap, even though it's a
1208
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:47,200
three man front, it's usually
one gap versus A2 gap with the
1209
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,600
335 S.
Most of the time there's going
1210
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:55,440
to be a shade situation there.
But yeah, so I mean, I mean,
1211
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,240
that kind of wraps up what we
want to talk about on the
1212
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,160
defense.
I appreciate that, Gary.
1213
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,200
Let's flip it over to the
offense.
1214
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,240
You got offensive coordinator
Kevin Decker running that up
1215
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,920
tempo offense.
What can we expect from that
1216
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,000
offense and kind of what are
some of the bread and butter
1217
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:16,000
calls in that offense?
The offense is a bit of a
1218
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,360
dumpster fire right now.
They have been terrible in the
1219
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:21,800
first two games.
Even though it's a good
1220
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,360
competition, we're just not not
doing the right things back
1221
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,200
there.
It is a very up tempo offense.
1222
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,640
You will not see us huddle when
a play is over.
1223
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,920
We're going to the line
immediately and if you're not
1224
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,360
set, if you got the wrong
personnel, we're going to snap
1225
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,240
it with 3536 seconds on the play
clock and go.
1226
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:41,920
If you don't like the look, then
we'll kind of back off and snap
1227
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,960
it around about 25 seconds.
So a lot of plays it's going to
1228
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,480
move quickly.
This is basically the same
1229
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,200
offense that they run at
Tennessee right now under Josh
1230
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,200
Heipol.
It's very much a spread.
1231
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,560
You will we will have a receiver
on both sides of the field
1232
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,520
outside the number on pretty
much every play.
1233
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,440
We're we're going to make you
defend the the whole width of
1234
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:05,360
the field there.
But really, truly it's a running
1235
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,920
offense because the idea is to
spread them out, get mismatches
1236
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:11,040
and leverage up front and be
able to run the football.
1237
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:15,200
That's when we were at our best
last year is when, you know, we
1238
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,360
were, we were able to do those
things and move the ball down
1239
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,200
the field.
I, I don't feel like the offense
1240
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,120
has ever fully clicked and I
don't know if that's personnel
1241
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,200
or what it is.
We have a lot of problems up
1242
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:29,120
front in our offensive line as
well, but when it clicks, it
1243
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,760
goes fast.
I mean we're talking 3 plays, 75
1244
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,680
yards, 22 seconds have come off
the clock and it's a touchdown.
1245
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,640
We'll go 3 and out the next 6
drives and you're always just
1246
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,360
waiting for like that one big
chunk play that's going to bust
1247
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,120
it open.
That's why I feel like we've
1248
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,440
been in so many one possession
games because the defense has
1249
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,040
been strong and the offense hits
those big plays every now and
1250
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:49,600
then to just keep us right in
the game.
1251
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:56,520
I think you asked about bread
and butter calls, ton of RPO
1252
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,320
looks, a lot of RPO alerts.
So you truly have the the run
1253
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,720
pass option there.
You're gonna see a lot of
1254
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:08,320
interesting delayed routes on
the outside where we run.
1255
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,240
We usually run like stacks.
So for four Y, we've got 2
1256
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,320
receivers, cleat de cleat on the
outside the numbers.
1257
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,360
So you're going to see a lot of
funny things with that where it
1258
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,320
looks like a screen and then
it's slant and then it's go and
1259
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,920
the other guys running kind of a
wheel route.
1260
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,840
I had some really weird route
combos that happened out there.
1261
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,560
So we run a lot of that.
Where we've been struggling
1262
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,520
right now is we have no short
intermediate passing game over
1263
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:32,360
the middle.
So East Carolina, they put six
1264
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,360
in the box even when we had four
wide.
1265
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,680
They just trusted their single
coverage and that they would get
1266
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:39,360
home to get pressure before the
ball could get out.
1267
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,040
And that's what they did to us
all night.
1268
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,480
And it killed us in the running
game from that that way because
1269
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:45,400
we were outnumbered.
And then it killed us in the
1270
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,840
passing game because the online
cannot hold up the pass block.
1271
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,640
I imagine we're going to come
with a very similar road map
1272
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,480
because that, that's what we
like to do anyway.
1273
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,440
And that kind of plays a little
bit into, into what we do well.
1274
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,160
So I, I expect a lot of that on
our side, trying to play as much
1275
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,840
man as possible, trying to get
after the quarterback as much as
1276
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,680
possible.
And, and we'll, we'll we'll
1277
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,760
hopefully hold up in the in the
rushing attack and, and keep
1278
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:14,320
that in check.
But yeah, so you, you got the
1279
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:16,359
bread and butter.
Shelton, do you have anything on
1280
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,920
on the offense as far as the
team is concerned that you
1281
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,080
wanted to throw in here?
Yeah, so, so I was looking at
1282
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,120
the the stats for Grant Wilson
at quarterback.
1283
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:26,800
It's kind of funny you mentioned
the the lack of the intermediate
1284
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,840
passing game.
You know, statistically ODU
1285
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,600
doesn't throw deep a ton.
They do go over over the middle
1286
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:35,000
a lot.
And and those intermediate
1287
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,680
throws are just not being very
efficient with them.
1288
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:39,240
So I assume, you know, that's
kind of a kind of a major
1289
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,720
problem.
But for Wilson, you know, he had
1290
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,560
a pretty decent game against BT
last year from what I recall,
1291
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,000
PFS stats not great, not very
kind to him so far, kind of
1292
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,920
right around right around 43,
which is, which is rough.
1293
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,000
And he's also been pressured 30
times, which is the most among
1294
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,600
all Group of Five quarterbacks
thus far.
1295
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:03,160
So I guess I'd ask you what have
been the weak spots for him this
1296
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,640
year And and do you think the O
line has maybe made things a
1297
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:06,920
little bit more difficult for
him?
1298
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,359
The other line's definitely been
a problem, just protection in
1299
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:12,319
general mixed with some play
calling.
1300
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,240
A lot of our routes that are
even intermediate and deep are
1301
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,640
longer developing routes.
They're keying off another
1302
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,080
receiver, sometimes their choice
routes, things like that.
1303
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,439
So he has been under pressure a
ton, he has been flushed from
1304
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:29,120
the pocket a ton.
And really like our our short
1305
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,560
game that we've hit is usually
like quick curls, quick hitches
1306
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,120
to the outside, kind of some
tunnel screen action too.
1307
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:39,240
That's where we've been like,
that's our short game for the
1308
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,479
most part.
We do run a ton of deep
1309
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,080
crossers.
So you'll see you guys come from
1310
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,520
the outside, the numbers all the
way, the numbers on the other
1311
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:50,200
side.
You know, I think Grant, he had
1312
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,399
fumble problems at South
Carolina.
1313
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,600
Both of the fumbles that were
there were the ones inside our
1314
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,680
own 10 that led to those
touchdowns and really why we
1315
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,280
lost that game.
He was a little bit better
1316
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:02,600
protecting the ball I think
against East Carolina, but
1317
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,040
almost more of not risking
throws, which is problematic in
1318
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,600
our offense.
You need to take those deep
1319
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:11,280
shots when you get them.
But really like all all the
1320
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,600
difficulties he's having stem
from the offensive line we
1321
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,680
faced. 2 good ones for sure.
Kyle Kennard at South Carolina
1322
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,520
is one of the best edge rushers
I've ever seen in person in my
1323
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,400
life.
I mean, he was blown past the
1324
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:23,920
left tackle like he was standing
still.
1325
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,280
But we, we've got to clean up
that pass protection because he
1326
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:32,000
just, he, he is getting pushed
out of the pocket in under 2
1327
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:35,440
seconds in most spots.
So he's not even on 2nd read
1328
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:39,120
before that happens.
But his status for Saturday is
1329
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:42,400
actually very, very much in the
air right now.
1330
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:45,520
Yeah, we were reading about
that.
1331
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,760
Are we expected if he can't go,
are we going to see Colton
1332
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,800
Joseph or are we going to see
somebody else further down the
1333
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,240
depth chart?
I got a tiptoe around this one
1334
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:58,080
because I know the answer and
I'm not telling it.
1335
01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,480
There we go.
OK.
1336
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,200
I respect that.
I'll give you a rundown of who's
1337
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:05,040
behind Grant.
So Colton Joseph red shirt
1338
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:10,000
freshman is from California dual
threat guy, a little bit bigger
1339
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,600
than grant big arm ton of
confidence we've seen in in
1340
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:18,000
spring ball hasn't looked great,
hasn't looked great in practice,
1341
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,320
especially with past accuracy
and decision making, which this
1342
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,800
offense is very much all right.
I've got to know what choice my
1343
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,560
receiver's going to take because
they have 3.
1344
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,000
So you have to be In Sync with
your receivers and know your
1345
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,840
timing.
He has not played in a game for
1346
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,440
us at all.
Who if if it's not Grant, it
1347
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:38,360
will be someone who has not
taken an FBS snap in at least
1348
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:41,920
two years.
So got that I've got Quinn
1349
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:46,080
Hennikle is a true freshman.
He just joined the team in
1350
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,880
summer camp.
Probably not likely to play, but
1351
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:51,560
he's like if you clone Grant
Wilson, they look the same.
1352
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:53,800
They got the same bill, they
move the same on the field, they
1353
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,080
run the same style of offenses
and things like that.
1354
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,040
He's an option.
And then Emmett Morehead, who
1355
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:01,560
was a transfer of this offseason
from Boston College.
1356
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,520
Emmett played some at BC, got
hurt and didn't play much after
1357
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:07,720
that.
Both of the all three of these
1358
01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,960
guys are are dual threats.
Colton Joseph is probably the
1359
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,880
faster of the group.
He kind of runs like a deer and
1360
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,800
he is a lot stronger than he
looks.
1361
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,520
So if you're a, a corner that's
165 lbs and you go for the big
1362
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,560
hit on him, might wake up
looking for your mouthpiece
1363
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,760
because he's a he's a big boy.
So you'll have to wait and see
1364
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:31,040
when the first offense comes out
who is in at quarterback because
1365
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,200
I I will not be not be the one
to let that cat out of the bag.
1366
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:37,560
I can appreciate that, Curtis,
what you got?
1367
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,200
Well, we'll know it's six O
clock.
1368
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,480
Let's talk a little bit about
y'all's running game.
1369
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:45,720
Obviously it it's been a little
bit of a struggle this year, but
1370
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,760
it looks like you guys are
leaning pretty heavy on Aaron
1371
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,000
Young, who's leading the team in
Russian.
1372
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,160
And how's Bryce Duke going?
That's a former Hokie that
1373
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,240
transferred to ODU this
offseason.
1374
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,680
How much PT is he getting?
And you know, just a little bit
1375
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,960
about the running backroom.
Yeah, well, I'll start and stay
1376
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,960
on the injury theme.
Devin Roche was really slated to
1377
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,560
be our top running back.
We were going to rotate a lot of
1378
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,600
guys, but he was he was the bell
cow.
1379
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,360
He is the elusive back, super
fast.
1380
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,080
You will lose him in a crowd and
then he's in the end zone.
1381
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,440
He's super quick.
He got a nice welcoming down
1382
01:13:20,440 --> 01:13:22,200
there in Columbia on the opening
kick off.
1383
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,760
Some guy just tried to go can
opener on his on his shoe with
1384
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,760
his foot still in it.
So he has not touched the field
1385
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:30,600
since then.
Don't know his status for
1386
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:34,040
Saturday, but imagine similar to
Jason Henderson by week coming
1387
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,760
up at Bowling Green.
Probably not likely.
1388
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,200
So Aaron Young is has carried
the bulk of it.
1389
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,360
He he can be elusive as well.
He's a little bit more of a
1390
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,160
power runner.
They run a lot of inside zone
1391
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,880
with him, a lot of inside zone
counters with some some pulling
1392
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,560
tackles and we're able to do
that hard nosed runner.
1393
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,560
We've seen him take some snaps
in the Wildcat, some of our goal
1394
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,040
line sets.
He's been doing great.
1395
01:13:57,480 --> 01:13:59,480
Bryce Duke, I've talked to him a
time.
1396
01:13:59,480 --> 01:14:02,120
I think I talked to him like a
week after he committed to ODU
1397
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:03,920
and and interviewed him.
That's actually on our our
1398
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:05,720
YouTube channel for ODU
monarchist.
1399
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,520
He's gotten some playing time,
hasn't found a lot of success
1400
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,920
yet.
He had a he had a rough fumble
1401
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:17,120
on a a kick return against East
Carolina that that hurt us on
1402
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,520
Saturday.
But I think he's just still
1403
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,880
getting a feel for this offense
and trying to figure out the O
1404
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,800
line in front of them, which I'd
say everyone's trying to figure
1405
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:29,040
that out right now.
But I think where he's going to
1406
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:32,440
be most useful for us is when
he's lined up at running back
1407
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:35,640
and then goes out to the slot.
Able to do a lot of stuff in the
1408
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:40,640
short passing game here too.
Yeah, he definitely had some
1409
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,960
success with us in the passing
game, whether it's like a pop
1410
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:47,160
pass or or stuff like that where
we could get him the ball in
1411
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,800
space between the hashes and let
him do some damage there.
1412
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,720
So he's definitely a threat from
that standpoint.
1413
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:57,600
Before we flip it over, Shelton,
do you have anything else on the
1414
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,840
running game for for OD you want
to throw in here?
1415
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:05,520
Not too much.
I know they're they're per rush
1416
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,840
averages aren't great Duke
around 1 and young around 3.6.
1417
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:14,040
So yeah, I mean, we just know
it's you know, they haven't done
1418
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:15,840
much on the ground this year.
Again, small sample size
1419
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:17,800
strength this casual.
You played a really good South
1420
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,080
Carolina team, or at least what
I think is a solid South
1421
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,800
Carolina team.
So I was going to have to kind
1422
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,480
of wait and see how the rest of
the season plays out.
1423
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,120
All right, so let's move it
outside.
1424
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,480
I know you've already talked a
little bit about what they do
1425
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:33,640
from a receiver standpoint.
A lot of choice routes.
1426
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,360
Some of those you know, delay
routes, who are the guys that
1427
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,440
are catching the passes out
there outside the hashes.
1428
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,600
Yeah, Deonte Vines is probably
the first one that comes to
1429
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,560
mind.
He's transferred in from Iowa
1430
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,400
last year and we may already
have more offense than Iowa had
1431
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,040
all of last season.
Even though we've been off
1432
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,440
awful.
He's he's getting to stretch his
1433
01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:56,200
legs a little bit with us.
He is, as of summer camp, the
1434
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,520
fastest player on our team,
which is impressive because one
1435
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:03,120
of our other wide receivers was
a track star at South Carolina
1436
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,680
before coming here and and
playing football.
1437
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:08,200
He does a great job of getting
in space.
1438
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:12,240
I think he's probably the best
on in our receiving corps of
1439
01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:15,000
being able to read defenses and
make the best decisions in his
1440
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,320
choice routes so far.
So he's definitely one that to,
1441
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,720
to watch out for there.
Isaiah Page, he's been with our
1442
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:27,040
program for quite a while.
Small, he's like 5657 small,
1443
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,920
small guy, but man, he is fast
and he is elusive.
1444
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,040
Like if, if you're not in front
of him, he's he's blowing past
1445
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,520
you.
He had a, a big game against
1446
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:39,920
South Carolina.
I kind of, you know, we, we took
1447
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,560
the, we got the opening kick off
in that game.
1448
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,160
We ran 2 plays, fumble at the
seven and then South Carolina
1449
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:46,200
scored on 3rd and goal.
So you can just feel the
1450
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,240
momentum just fall right out of
it.
1451
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:52,600
We get to kick off first play,
Isaiah Page busts his corner,
1452
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:56,200
corner falls down and he just
goes for like an 80 yard or 75
1453
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,920
yard touchdown pass.
So he has that big play
1454
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,040
potential.
He is also a brave soul because
1455
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:04,000
he's the one that will stand all
the way on the other side of the
1456
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,320
field and catch a screen pass
without looking at the
1457
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:07,800
cornerback screaming down on
him.
1458
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,000
So tough guy.
He was a little banged up at
1459
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,960
South Carolina.
He played the full game when we
1460
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,680
had E come to Norfolk, so I
really like him, but Kelby
1461
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:19,600
Williams played a good bit for
us last year.
1462
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,960
He's going to be more of your
your far outside receiver.
1463
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:27,720
I think he only had two snaps in
the East Carolina game and one
1464
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:31,280
was a a touchdown pass on kind
of a busted play and he just
1465
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,800
kept going on his deep crosser
and was wide open.
1466
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,240
So a lot of guys there, no one's
really stepped up to be the
1467
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,600
number one.
Like we don't have the Ollie
1468
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,400
Jennings anymore.
He would be like the clear
1469
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,840
number one guy.
But I think that actually makes
1470
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:44,960
us a little more dangerous in
the way we run our offense
1471
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,960
because you can't just say top
corner on top receiver and shut
1472
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,680
it down.
Makes us a little bit more
1473
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:54,440
dynamic in the receiving core.
All right.
1474
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,280
Well, that, that's good stuff.
Let's talk about some of those
1475
01:17:58,280 --> 01:17:59,760
areas of weakness.
And I think you've already
1476
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,920
really highlighted this pretty,
pretty good, but talk a little
1477
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,920
bit about what you see going
wrong with that offensive line
1478
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,440
and what's maybe holding that
offense back from taking that
1479
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:11,880
step?
Yeah, well we plugged in a lot
1480
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,400
of new guys on the offensive
line.
1481
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,920
We have 3 new starters there.
The one you want to watch out
1482
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,080
for the most are left guard Zach
Barlev was a transfer in from
1483
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,080
Illinois.
Great guy.
1484
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,400
Like if you think of Midwestern
offensive lineman, like he is
1485
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:31,440
the the stereotype to AT super
nice but mean as hell when he's
1486
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:33,640
on the field.
So we've had problems that left
1487
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:36,840
tackle with basically just not
having the footwork and the
1488
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,080
speed to take care of an edge,
not being able to identify
1489
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,720
stunts that are that are
breaking back to the inside.
1490
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:45,360
I had some issues at right
guard, but I think we've we've
1491
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:48,280
shored those up with the new
person plugging in there.
1492
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:51,040
I doubt you're going to see the
same old line that we saw at
1493
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,640
East Carolina or South Carolina.
I think there's some some
1494
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,000
changes that have been made
there.
1495
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,880
So you're going to have more new
on the field.
1496
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,520
So I'm glad this game is in
Norfolk and not Blacksburg so
1497
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,920
they can actually have a
conversation with each other.
1498
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:05,440
Yeah.
Like they're they're getting
1499
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:07,760
beat on the outside.
And when we adjust to kind of
1500
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:09,560
protect, all right, we're not
going to let the edges beat us
1501
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,520
around the corner again.
They come with a blitz right up
1502
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,680
the middle and blaster center
right off the ball.
1503
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:18,200
So just really in in the past
protection, they're struggling.
1504
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,640
We should have run the ball
better against East Carolina,
1505
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,720
but we didn't have a single
situation on the inside zone
1506
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,960
where the the running back
actually bounced it to the
1507
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,320
outside.
We should know to do that
1508
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,080
because East Carolina did that
exact play to us twice for two
1509
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,920
of their touchdown runs.
But everything was just a gap, a
1510
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:38,440
gap, a gap all day.
And it was driving us bananas
1511
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:41,080
sitting in the end zone watching
it and seeing it all kind of
1512
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,560
unfold in front of us.
So there's that.
1513
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,320
And then just the the route
concepts being called are not
1514
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,760
matching the pressure that we're
getting.
1515
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,480
You know, the easiest way to
beat a blitz is to throw the
1516
01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:52,320
receivers in the vacated area,
right?
1517
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,960
We didn't do that once even
though ECU was totally fine
1518
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,720
showing us exactly what they
were going to do on defense.
1519
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:03,440
So offensive line and our
offensive line protection
1520
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:05,800
problems are causing receiving
problems and vice versa.
1521
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,520
So hopefully they're getting
that worked out this week,
1522
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,760
potentially with a new
quarterback.
1523
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,200
So that's a whole new wrinkle to
this.
1524
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,760
I'm sure we'll see some new
stuff, but.
1525
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,120
Yeah, potentially out starting
quarterback, potentially out
1526
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,360
starting running back.
Our our top tight end who is
1527
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,840
like the go juice for our
running game who kind of does a
1528
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,560
lot to clear holes for us.
He hasn't played a snap yet this
1529
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:29,920
season.
I doubt he's going to be back on
1530
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,280
Saturday.
So we've got a ��300 offensive
1531
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,080
lineman, occasionally we're an
83 and line up at tight end if
1532
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:37,240
you want to see something real
fun all.
1533
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,280
Right.
I do love seeing big boys
1534
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,800
outside so I I hope we see at
least a little bit of that.
1535
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,080
Always fun to hear that.
All right, one last question
1536
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:47,640
before we let you get out of
here, Gary.
1537
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,360
Again, check out Gary ODU
Monarchist.
1538
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,880
I'm sure they've got a great
preview episode for the Hokie.
1539
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,560
So if you want to wonder what
the ODU fan is thinking about
1540
01:20:56,560 --> 01:21:00,040
our Hokies, check out Gary's
podcast over on College Huddle
1541
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:04,640
Network.
What ingredients could lead to
1542
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:09,080
another Monarcho upset of the
visiting Hokie Hokies this
1543
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,280
Saturday?
Well you already know there's
1544
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,000
some voodoo sprinkled in Norfolk
when y'all come to town.
1545
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:17,720
Like, weird stuff happens, you
get weird games, you get a guy
1546
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,280
who's now a pastor throw for
like 500 yards.
1547
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,440
Elevators.
Breakdown elevators.
1548
01:21:22,440 --> 01:21:25,440
Breakdown.
Yeah, let let me just comment on
1549
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:27,680
that.
If you understand what the
1550
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,120
weight limits are in an
elevator, that will not happen
1551
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,160
to you.
All right.
1552
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,600
Believe it that I I think for
ODU on the field, the defense is
1553
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,440
going to need to repeat the
performances they had against
1554
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:43,240
South Carolina.
You all run somewhat similar
1555
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,360
offenses with a little bit
better you.
1556
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:48,160
You all have the better
quarterback at that position.
1557
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,000
So we need to repeat performance
of that to let our defense keep
1558
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:55,080
us in the game.
Offense has to either hit two to
1559
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,240
three big shots down the field
for touchdowns or actually
1560
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,200
develop a short intermediate
passing game.
1561
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,040
If we do one of those two things
on offense, I think we're back
1562
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,600
in, we'll be in our, our 14th 1
score game of our last 16 games.
1563
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:09,320
So we'll, I think that'll keep
us in it.
1564
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:13,000
So just keep playing tight
defense and at some point the
1565
01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:15,360
offense has to click with
whoever is going to be under
1566
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,480
center.
But that, that's kind of the,
1567
01:22:17,480 --> 01:22:19,520
the key thing.
And you know, weird special
1568
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,280
teams play would would help as
well.
1569
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:24,000
Oh no, you'll never get those
down there.
1570
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:28,000
Yeah, let's not snap another one
to Williamsburg this time,
1571
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,840
please.
Oh my gosh.
1572
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:31,800
That had some distance on it, I
will say.
1573
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,120
Worst snap of that, actually,
I'm going to go back.
1574
01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:37,640
That might be the worst snap
I've ever seen in my life.
1575
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:41,160
I I feel like my kids play in
the court in my cul-de-sac here.
1576
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,440
I've seen them snap the ball
better than that one.
1577
01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:47,400
And Brian, me and you, we threw
things in this.
1578
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,600
This is my man cave.
We threw things when that
1579
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,360
happened two years ago in this
very room.
1580
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:55,320
So.
Yeah, I I still couldn't believe
1581
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:56,600
it.
Like that's, that's the farthest
1582
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,960
I've seen the snap go.
So like now I know how far along
1583
01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,920
snapper can actually snap the
ball down the field.
1584
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,080
It's not caught.
There you go.
1585
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,840
Appreciate you coming on with us
tonight, Gary.
1586
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,960
Like I said, go ahead and shout
out your your socials.
1587
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:13,360
Go ahead and shout out your your
website and let the folks know
1588
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:17,880
where they can catch you.
Yep, at ODU Monarchist for
1589
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,400
pretty much all of our social
handles, ODU monarchist.com.
1590
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:24,960
Come take a look there.
We've got a lot of interesting
1591
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,200
stuff there, some good previews.
We'll have some other stuff
1592
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,080
coming out on there as well
leading up to game day.
1593
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:31,840
But appreciate you all having me
on.
1594
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,920
It was a lot of fun.
Are any of you coming down to
1595
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:37,200
Norfolk this weekend?
We will not be there this
1596
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,160
weekend, but we're hoping for
good things for the Hokies.
1597
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:42,760
We've got to got to get that
monkey off our back at some
1598
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:46,640
point down there in Norfolk.
100% appreciate it, Gary.
1599
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:48,040
Yeah.
Thank you all so much.
1600
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,840
Thank you.
All right, again, we appreciate
1601
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,200
Gary taking a little time out of
his evening to join us, give a
1602
01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:00,280
little bit more insight on the
ODU monarchs.
1603
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,480
Again, check him out.
Check that out.
1604
01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:04,280
Siegel went over there a little
earlier this week.
1605
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:06,000
I've had a little conversation
with them.
1606
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,280
Correct, Sir.
No, no.
1607
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:10,360
You didn't.
I thought you were you supposed
1608
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,600
to.
We we, we were talking, but we
1609
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,160
never, we never got.
Going we'll still go listen to
1610
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,760
those guys because clearly I
I'll give Gary all credit here,
1611
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,880
man, looks like Gary knows his
stuff.
1612
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:22,720
Very focused.
So probably got a got a lot of
1613
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,640
breakdowns of what they're
looking at with the potential
1614
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,520
with the potential of what could
happen to them with the Hokies
1615
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,320
coming to town.
So again, thanks Gary for that.
1616
01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:32,800
And now, boys, let's flip it
over.
1617
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:37,080
We got to talk about the Hokie
keys and Shelton.
1618
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,400
What is some of your keys to a
Hokie's victory this week?
1619
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,960
Yeah, well, I thought about this
question earlier today.
1620
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,560
I feel like it'd be the most
cliche thing ever to say good up
1621
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,920
to a good start, but I guess it
applies.
1622
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,720
I'll say, I'll say this.
I'll say I want to see this team
1623
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,640
dominate the line of scrimmage.
I mean, we've seen through two
1624
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,600
games now.
You know, they didn't they
1625
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,480
didn't dominate the line of
scrimmage against Vanderbilt.
1626
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:03,520
They did for one, but not the
first half.
1627
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,920
You know, I just think I want to
see them just, you know, come
1628
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,080
out and punch, punch.
Oh, do you right in the nose.
1629
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:12,040
You know, I, I think, you know,
if, if Tech is, you know, in a
1630
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,480
dog fight with a team like, you
know, 10-7 after the first
1631
01:25:14,480 --> 01:25:18,680
quarter or 1710 at halftime,
like I'm, I'm not going to feel
1632
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:20,760
great.
Like I think I, I think how you,
1633
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,520
how you look matters even, even
if you win.
1634
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,280
And I just, I want to see this
team really dominate.
1635
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,040
I have a stretch where, you
know, you score 2-3 touchdowns
1636
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,920
in a span of 1/4 and you know,
you shut up the other team.
1637
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,160
Like we just, we haven't seen
this team really dominate and
1638
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:40,480
just bludgeon their opposition
for for a long period of time
1639
01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:42,040
outside of that one Trish
against Vanderbilt.
1640
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,520
So yeah, just just win the line
of scrimmage when there's one on
1641
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,200
1000 trenches.
And I think that's going to be
1642
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:52,520
the the recipe for.
Success Real quick, I want to
1643
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,240
throw tallies in here.
Basically, Tally says we've got
1644
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,160
to beat the road aggregations
and I understand.
1645
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,360
I think every single person here
understands what that means.
1646
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:04,040
This current coaching Staffs Rd.
record is not great.
1647
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:07,280
Let's get one on the board.
Let's get the momentum going for
1648
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:10,960
winning the game on the road.
That is from my buddy Tally who
1649
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,440
is out tonight.
Especially on a spot where we
1650
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:15,920
have the last couple trips.
Not, not.
1651
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,560
Shit to bed.
So it's a good.
1652
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:20,400
Fortune man shit to bed.
There is nothing else to say.
1653
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,440
It's shit to bed.
We've shit to bed the last two
1654
01:26:22,440 --> 01:26:26,280
times down there.
Yeah, What about that?
1655
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,160
And that that kind of goes to my
point, like we need to beat up
1656
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,680
on little brother, right?
I mean, we, we said it and we've
1657
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,520
talked about it.
We we are the flagship football
1658
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,360
program in the state of
Virginia.
1659
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:39,960
What we should do is any,
whether we're playing with
1660
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,880
however you feel about this road
trip to Norfolk.
1661
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:48,640
And I know a lot of people don't
like it and I get that, but we
1662
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,600
should not have a problem going
down there and handling them for
1663
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:54,640
four quarters.
I'm not saying we're going to
1664
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:57,760
put up 50 and shut them out or
anything like that, but we
1665
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,320
should easily handle this game
for four quarters.
1666
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:03,200
Yes, we should.
Yes, we should.
1667
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:07,360
By the way, whatever you said
was absolute facts.
1668
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:13,320
You spoke to Lavar there for me
and I felt like Gary.
1669
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,680
I said it to Gary and I'll say
it to you all again.
1670
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:20,080
OU is the 102nd ranked rushing
defense in the country.
1671
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,400
They're giving up almost 180
yards a game.
1672
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:26,440
The rushing offense, we want a
quick start, run it down their
1673
01:27:26,440 --> 01:27:28,840
throats, run it down their
throats.
1674
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,720
The second is their rushing
offense.
1675
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,440
Well, you know, obviously
they're missing a starter.
1676
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:38,920
The guy who's starting is
effectively the backup.
1677
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:42,640
Yes, you do have Bryce Duke, but
still they are not.
1678
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,120
They're getting 100 yards a
game.
1679
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:48,000
So for our defense, play sound,
don't play down.
1680
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,840
That goes back to what Brian
said and John, kind of what
1681
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:55,000
you're saying to go out there
and just beat them up, go play
1682
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,880
mean.
And I always like this.
1683
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,200
And I know Tally, I think Tally
coined this a couple probably
1684
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:04,680
last year.
Go make them when it turns
1685
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,840
through the third quarter.
I don't want to be here anymore.
1686
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,360
That's what I want to see.
I want to see literally head
1687
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,800
saying like, man, they going to
make business decisions
1688
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,920
throughout the game and it's
going to be stepping out of our
1689
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,920
way.
So there it is.
1690
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,880
And now we have to do, we always
put our names on it.
1691
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:28,680
We always make our predictions.
I got a little text from Mr.
1692
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:33,360
Talley a few minutes ago.
Tally's feeling a little bit of
1693
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:37,160
a heartburn for this game.
He does think the Hokies wins,
1694
01:28:37,160 --> 01:28:42,360
but at a 2817 clip.
So put that on the board for
1695
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,680
Tally.
Shelton, what you got?
1696
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:49,720
I'll take Hokies 31 to 10.
I think they're they're going to
1697
01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:54,120
come out pretty aggressive.
Just this is a big opportunity
1698
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:56,840
where you know you have a chance
to smack these guys in the
1699
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,400
mouth.
If we do that, I'm feeling a lot
1700
01:28:58,400 --> 01:28:59,920
better about where we are as a
program.
1701
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,360
If it's dogfight, man, you're
you're coming to next week
1702
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,800
thinking like, oh, we don't know
what this team really is yet.
1703
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,000
So I think they'll I think
they'll cover.
1704
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:10,920
So yeah, give me, give me Hookes
by three touchdowns.
1705
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:16,920
I've got 3 touchdowns as well,
but I've got a little bit more
1706
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,680
scoring going on both
directions.
1707
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,720
I've got this one coming out to
3817.
1708
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,920
I think this is the week the
offense puts the pieces together
1709
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:30,480
and goes up there and score some
points for most the better part
1710
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:33,080
of the four quarters that we're
going to watch on Saturday at
1711
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:38,600
six PMI think that ODU gets a a
touchdown late to kind of make
1712
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:42,560
it make it an interesting little
more interesting contest there.
1713
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:47,800
But I think we're able to close
it out, put it away. 3817 is
1714
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,120
what I got. 3 touchdown victory
for the Hokies.
1715
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:56,040
All right.
I'm actually not far from any of
1716
01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:02,640
y'all whatsoever.
I am at Hokies win 3820 and I
1717
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:05,640
get a feeling what what he said
about some of their problems
1718
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,280
with their rush defense, with
their blitzing.
1719
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,560
There's going to be some
opportunities one-on-one if we
1720
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:12,560
can pass track, get the ball out
quick.
1721
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:15,320
I think it's going to be
actually kind of a role reversal
1722
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,520
of what happened with Marshall.
I do think this is the week we
1723
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:23,920
come out quick and 3820, but I
think it's one of those games as
1724
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:27,480
we sit in the third quarter,
it's like this game's over.
1725
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:29,520
They can't do anything against
us.
1726
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:32,840
They're they're not going to be
able to come back from this lead
1727
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:37,000
we have built up in the first
three, 2 1/2 quarters. 3820
1728
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:40,880
Hokies.
All righty, we are gone.
1729
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:47,280
It's time.
It is time Week 3 of big
1730
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,160
screeners presented by the
Counts Family Pharmacy.
1731
01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:51,720
You know what we're going to do
next year?
1732
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:53,600
We're going to let Jeremy make
picks and pick a game.
1733
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:59,800
What do you think about that?
Oh shit, can't wait for that.
1734
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:03,000
All right, Is he going to make a
video every week like Jason?
1735
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:04,480
Oh, that'd be.
Awesome.
1736
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,840
About about half bottle into a
Jameson's all.
1737
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,800
Righty.
But hey, probably starting next
1738
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:16,000
week, Blacksburg on the Rocks is
probably going to be the lead in
1739
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:17,560
for our show, man.
It is.
1740
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:21,440
That's the plan if we can get
our crap together over on our
1741
01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:23,240
side of the house.
But got to get got to get the
1742
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:28,120
kids sports schedules in line
here and while in right now.
1743
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,040
Is what it is.
Can't do much about it.
1744
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,480
All right, So we got big
screeners, big slate of games
1745
01:31:33,480 --> 01:31:37,120
this week, some good games,
actually just so many games.
1746
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,040
We actually missed a couple like
we do not have Alabama,
1747
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:45,800
Wisconsin on here again.
We are put that on the board.
1748
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:49,480
Put put that message up real
quick.
1749
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,840
It was 39 points.
It ain't like that thing went to
1750
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,520
50.
So get your head out of your
1751
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,600
ass.
Again, again, we said it on
1752
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,240
Twitter when when he when he
said, hey, you should, you
1753
01:32:01,240 --> 01:32:02,760
should have, you should have
took the over.
1754
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,320
I'm like, bro, you said hammer
the over.
1755
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,920
You said you didn't say squeak
over the over.
1756
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:11,960
You didn't say smoking heaters
in the parking lot.
1757
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,200
Hoping this hits and over.
And it hits 37 with about 8
1758
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,720
minutes to go.
So yeah, but we got hey.
1759
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,040
If if you were betting you made
some money, so good on you, yes.
1760
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:22,360
Exactly.
Good on you.
1761
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:25,200
Alrighty.
But by the way, that is now the
1762
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:29,160
third time in the last 14 games
that Iowa's hit the over.
1763
01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:35,080
Statistics say bet the under.
All right, so let's go to big
1764
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:36,800
screeners.
Brian, you're up first.
1765
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,280
Where are you heading to for
your big screeners game?
1766
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:43,440
Let's go to K State, baby.
This is an interesting game for
1767
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:47,760
me.
You got Arizona busting into a
1768
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:51,160
new conference.
You got K State pretty good
1769
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:55,160
season last year.
I kind of think both of these
1770
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:57,440
teams are a little over ranked
at this point.
1771
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:03,360
So I'm not really exactly sure
what to expect from him, but
1772
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:06,680
it's, you know, it's 7 1/2
points there for K State.
1773
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:09,560
I'm going to take that.
I think K State wins this by
1774
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,960
about 10.
So give me K State here.
1775
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:16,760
This game is Friday night 8:00,
so definitely 1.
1776
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:20,440
You can just sit down and enjoy
without looking at 50 other
1777
01:33:20,440 --> 01:33:23,400
games.
And I am right with you Brian.
1778
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:27,560
I am laying that 7 1/2.
I think the war that they got
1779
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,960
down at 2 lane last week where
they barely squeaked by the
1780
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,480
Green Wave.
I think that woke up Kansas
1781
01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:35,640
State.
I think Arizona is going to
1782
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:38,000
tumble to earth.
Remember it was the Jet Fish
1783
01:33:38,000 --> 01:33:41,200
program last year.
Jed's up at Washington now and
1784
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,720
going into the little Apple of
Manhattan, KS.
1785
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:48,600
I think the Wildcats win this
one pretty comfortably.
1786
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:53,360
What about you, Sheldon?
Yeah, I'm taking Arizona to
1787
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:55,920
cover.
I I Kansas State was in a
1788
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,240
dogfight last week with Tulane.
I agree with Brian, both teams
1789
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:02,040
probably overrated and I think
it's a Friday night game and
1790
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:03,760
sometimes weird stuff happens on
Friday nights.
1791
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:05,600
So I'll take the cats to cover
all.
1792
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:10,400
Right, the Cats to cover Friday
8:00 Kansas State 14.
1793
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:14,720
Arizona is number 20.
I am driving this week.
1794
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,720
Let's go down to Winston Salem.
Hey, we got to get the other
1795
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:19,360
three in here.
Bud.
1796
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,200
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tally Arizona.
1797
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,600
Sorry, man.
When nobody's here, I forget.
1798
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,920
You're good.
Hey, rarely do we have three of
1799
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:30,040
us here now read off the other
3.
1800
01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:32,760
So hey, I'll let it slide this
time.
1801
01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:36,560
Tally's got Arizona, we got
Miranda riding with K State, and
1802
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:40,280
Jason is also riding.
With Kansas State, but we're all
1803
01:34:40,280 --> 01:34:42,280
on the Wildcats this week.
Here we go.
1804
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:45,160
All right, now let's go down to
Winston Salem.
1805
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:50,000
Lane Kiffin and Jackson Dark
come in to visit the Wake Forest
1806
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:54,200
Demon Deacons, who are basically
coming off an absolute choke job
1807
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:58,240
versus the Wahoos last week in
UVA.
1808
01:34:59,200 --> 01:35:04,480
What a line.
This is 23 1/2 points.
1809
01:35:04,480 --> 01:35:09,600
That is a monster to lay.
So Brian, I will kick to you
1810
01:35:09,600 --> 01:35:12,680
first.
Are you laying that many points?
1811
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:17,280
Give it to me, baby.
Wake to me answered the
1812
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:21,680
questions that I had of can this
team run it for four quarters?
1813
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:24,920
Can they keep up with the team
that can throw it, throw the
1814
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,520
ball around a little bit.
They showed me they could do it
1815
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,000
for a little bit.
UVA came back in the end, pulled
1816
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:34,200
the upset there.
Wake had had a couple problems
1817
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,760
on offense that kind of turned
that game late.
1818
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:41,120
I think Ole Miss is just going
to be too much for him.
1819
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,320
I think it's going to be about a
28 point win.
1820
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:48,600
SO4 touchdown victory for the.
Ribs, all right.
1821
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:53,360
And again, with this being my
game, I'm taking Ole Miss as
1822
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,920
well.
I think that offense is going to
1823
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:58,680
probably score every time they
touch the ball.
1824
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,600
I think it's going to be an
entertaining game.
1825
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:04,360
You like offense between
Clawson's mesh and then in Lane
1826
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:06,400
Kiffin's offense.
Buckle up.
1827
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:10,720
Probably a big over in this
situation, but I'm with you,
1828
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:12,840
Brian.
I think it's eventually Ole Miss
1829
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:14,800
being the deeper, being the more
talented team.
1830
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:18,360
They slowly pull away at the end
and it's probably going to be
1831
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,760
about 28.
Sheldon, what about you?
1832
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,280
Boy, 23 1/2, that's a lot of
points.
1833
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,240
I think Ole Miss wins
comfortably, but I think Wake
1834
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:29,600
Forest can score just enough to
cover.
1835
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,240
All righty, what else we got?
Tally is riding with you again,
1836
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:36,440
Sheldon, I think.
I think he's fully subscribing
1837
01:36:36,440 --> 01:36:38,880
to.
If Sheldon's got them, I'm
1838
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,280
rolling.
He's jumping in the car with.
1839
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:42,600
Sheldon, I was.
I was good last week.
1840
01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:45,480
Yeah, yeah, we didn't.
You didn't put that up.
1841
01:36:45,600 --> 01:36:47,440
I threw it at you.
I threw it at you.
1842
01:36:47,440 --> 01:36:49,600
Let me I I can, I can pull it
back up here in a second.
1843
01:36:49,880 --> 01:36:52,120
Pull that back up.
I felt good about last week.
1844
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:56,720
Actually, most of us had good.
Nobody did awful last week.
1845
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:59,000
Nobody did awful.
Last week, All right, Miranda
1846
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:02,840
riding with Wake as well.
Jason with me and Brian laying a
1847
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:08,560
lot of points.
Saturday night 630 on the CWI.
1848
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:11,120
Wonder if they'll have the
chopper down at Wake Stadium
1849
01:37:11,120 --> 01:37:13,400
this week.
So that will definitely be on
1850
01:37:13,400 --> 01:37:15,520
the second screen here in the
Wilson Man cave.
1851
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:18,400
All righty.
What did Tally go?
1852
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:19,520
Oh, no.
Shelton.
1853
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,000
Shelton, Shelton, you're up
next.
1854
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:25,040
Shelton, where are you going?
I'm going to the site of game
1855
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:28,760
day.
LSU and USC EI think it's to be
1856
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,680
a pretty interesting game.
Kind of an upstart South
1857
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,640
Carolina team.
They've got a really good pass
1858
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:37,040
rush, defense looking pretty
solid, but LSU good as well.
1859
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:41,000
I'm taking LSU in this one
purely based off vibes.
1860
01:37:41,240 --> 01:37:44,560
I think South Carolina is going
to be a little bit too hyped up
1861
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,000
with college game day being in
town.
1862
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:49,120
I think they're in for they're
due for a let down game, so I
1863
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:54,280
will take LSU.
I'm riding with LSU as well,
1864
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:58,080
Sheldon.
I, I, I've just, I'm not sold on
1865
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:02,080
South Carolina being more than a
six or seven win team in the
1866
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:05,160
SEC.
So I, I think this is a game
1867
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:09,080
that circumstances the line
where there weren't a ton of
1868
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:11,920
compelling matchups.
Like the, the best ranked
1869
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:17,040
matchup you had this week is for
a team that just joined a, a
1870
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:20,200
conference that, that you that
we let off with there.
1871
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:22,760
So there wasn't a lot of
history, wasn't a lot of super
1872
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,760
compelling ranked matchups.
I feel like this kind of fell in
1873
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,960
their laps a little bit.
But I I like LSU in this one.
1874
01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:36,320
Probably at least 2 touchdowns.
All righty, this one is ABC 12.
1875
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,640
I will have no shot of sitting
with it watching this one
1876
01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:41,320
because I will be at the
baseball field at about 10:00.
1877
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,640
My cousin and his son are going
to absolutely hate me.
1878
01:38:45,680 --> 01:38:47,760
My cousin is a South Carolina
alum.
1879
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,800
His son is a sophomore down
there.
1880
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:52,680
I told him like he's telling
he's got to go.
1881
01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,520
Like he's just got to go.
It is one of the most
1882
01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:56,160
unbelievable experience you've
ever been to.
1883
01:38:56,480 --> 01:38:59,840
But unfortunately, when I make a
bet, I got to do it the right
1884
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:04,200
way, not where the heart is.
LSU wins big, and here's the big
1885
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:08,560
reason why.
The defense, you keep a Lincoln
1886
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:14,040
Riley offense under 30 points,
you're doing good things.
1887
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,160
And I don't think South
Carolina's got anywhere near
1888
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:24,600
that type of offensive talent.
You know, 21, I don't know,
1889
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:29,760
2427, you know, 14, something
like that.
1890
01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:32,560
We got Shelton on there.
We got his LSU pick.
1891
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:36,040
Tally.
Literally Tally is just riding
1892
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:41,960
with Shelton.
Miranda throwing her throwing
1893
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:44,000
her money behind the the
Gamecocks there.
1894
01:39:44,440 --> 01:39:46,240
She's she's on the Shane train
this.
1895
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:49,000
Week and then we got Jason
riding with the Tigers.
1896
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I do have an update here for us
on how we did last week.
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I got four out of the six.
Curtis, you also got four out of
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the six.
Tally 4 out of the six, Sheldon,
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five of six.
Good week for Sheldon.
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Miranda right on right on the
50% there.
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Three out of the six.
Jason the The Gambling
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guitarist, only two, two, only
two.
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He he did get the money picked
though, So he did get the money.
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We'll give him that.
We'll give him that.
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That is correct.
All right, Even though Tally's
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not here.
Tally's taking us out to
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Columbia, MO, where the This is
a rank matchup.
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This is where I thought they
were going to go.
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This is where I thought game day
was going to go was Columbia,
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MO, not Columbia South Carolina,
but you got a rank match up with
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BC and Missouri. 1245 SEC
Network.
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Mizzou is laying 17 points.
What do you got on this one,
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Brian?
You know what?
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I've I've liked what I've seen
from BC and I think for this
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one, for me, with that Bill
O'Brien LED BC team, it's not so
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much that I think they're going
to go down there and give
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Missouri a ton of problems.
It's that that 17 is too damn
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big for me to take with the way
I've seen BC play so far.
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So I'll take BC and that that
17.
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Yeah, I'm with you.
I'm it's, it's more of who the
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coach is right now at BC with
Bill O'Brien.
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I don't think he's going to let
his team get blown out by that
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much.
And obviously we saw them have
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significant success against FSU,
so I think they do have some
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confidence going down there.
I don't, I don't think they can
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pull the upset, but I do think a
lot closer than the 17 that the
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experts think.
John, what you?
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Got I, I am.
I am with both of you guys, I
1929
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think.
I think Mizzou is actually
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legitimately they are a top ten
team for sure, no doubt.
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But that 17 was just a little
bit too much for me.
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You're good.
You're not 17 points good, by
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the way.
Just go boom, boom, boom, boom
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boom.
This is the consensus pick this
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week.
Everybody's ride with the
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Eagles, man.
Everybody's ride six complete.
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Soaring personalities.
Soaring with the fucking Eagles.
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6 completely different career
paths. 6 completely different
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locations.
We're all riding with the
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Eagles.
Lay the 17 and hold on.
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All righty Miranda, we should
have let her announce this
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earlier.
She is going down to the swamp
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with the the Florida Gators in
the Texas A&M Aggies.
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Aggies.
Is that up there Brian?
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I don't see.
There we go.
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Aggies are a A4 point favorite.
So, Gators getting points at
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home, something you rarely,
rarely see.
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01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:57,760
Brian, where are you on this
one?
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There's a reason for it.
That Florida team has looked
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like dog shit so far in the 2024
campaign.
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And I think it continues.
And I think this is a game where
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we figure out if, you know,
Notre Dame is thrown out one
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great game and one dud or
whether A&M is just not that
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great of a team.
I I think they're going to prove
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that there's, you know, they're
a little bit more than than that
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first game showed.
So I'm going to take A&M to win
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by about a touchdown here.
I'm, I'm, I'm with you.
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I'm definitely going to lay the
points here, give Florida the
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four points just of where they
are vibe wise.
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I think A&M yet they lost to
Notre Dame.
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01:43:41,480 --> 01:43:44,560
I think still, I think Elkos are
good enough to coach to turn
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them around.
I think this is the one that it
1963
01:43:48,440 --> 01:43:51,640
doesn't set the chair on fire,
but they're dumping the gasoline
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01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:53,800
on the chair after this week for
Billy Napier.
1965
01:43:54,440 --> 01:44:00,480
I think I think A&M wins.
Give me something like a like a
1966
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:05,800
27 to 17 game.
Like it's one of those it's
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01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,720
probably not going to be in
doubt the whole way for A&M.
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01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:14,680
So, but probably entertaining
2717 Gators Shelton.
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Yeah, I like A and MI, just
think I like Alpho.
1970
01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:20,840
I think they've just got too
much talent on that roster not
1971
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:22,720
to start, you know, putting it
together eventually.
1972
01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,400
So I think this will be the
start of a start of a good run
1973
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for them all.
Right tally, Tally's rod.
1974
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:34,800
With A&M and then we got the two
Gators on the tail in there with
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Miranda and Jason.
They're saying home game in the
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Swamp with the Gators given 4
points.
1977
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:41,800
Looks like they're riding with
that.
1978
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:43,160
They're riding with the swamp
effect.
1979
01:44:43,440 --> 01:44:47,080
They're riding with the swamp
effect all righty, so our
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01:44:47,080 --> 01:44:50,840
gambling guitarist this week is
taking it to Tallahassee.
1981
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:59,840
Well, since my baby left found
new place to dwell.
1982
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:22,960
Welcome back to another week of
guitar licks and gambling picks.
1983
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I'm Jason Long.
We got the dub last week when
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the Vols rolled over the
Wolfpack.
1985
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:30,960
Looking to keep that street
going down in Tallahassee when
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01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:34,680
Memphis takes on Florida State.
Now, Memphis might be the home
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01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,280
of the King, but the Seminoles
are the ones who have been
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01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,040
living in Heartbreak Hotel
lately.
1989
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,880
Haven't started the season.
Oh, and two.
1990
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,360
And things don't get easier this
week when Memphis comes to town.
1991
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:46,240
They're probably the best team
they've played yet.
1992
01:45:46,440 --> 01:45:49,920
It's possible the Tigers head
back to Bill St.
1993
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:54,880
Three and oh, so I'm taking
Memphis plus 6 1/2 on the road
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this week against Florida State.
All righty, there is Jason.
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01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:35,480
Obviously Jason with his
rendition of Heartbreak Hotel by
1996
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:38,880
the late, great Elvis Presley is
going Memphis.
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01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,960
Give him the points.
Brian, you riding with the
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01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,840
guitar man are you?
Are you pushing him off to the
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01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:47,360
side?
I'm going with the Fighting
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Silver fields out there in
Memphis.
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01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:52,080
You have to, right?
You have to, right?
2002
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:53,840
You can't.
I mean, you got to tell a little
2003
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:58,760
back story here.
So when I was a a young buck
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01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,000
just starting college, there was
this this very, very young
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01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:08,520
assistant on our on our team
working with the DNS freshman
2006
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:10,000
year out there.
I got to play a lot of scout
2007
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team, got to know him pretty
well.
2008
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:15,640
And that guy's now the head
coach of the Memphis Tigers, Ron
2009
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:18,560
Silverfield.
So really good guy, really good
2010
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,760
coach.
And even at the young age of I
2011
01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:25,840
think it was like 21 or 22 at
the time, he was had just either
2012
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:29,480
just graduated or was was
graduating that year from
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Hamden.
Sydney was already a very good
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01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:34,920
coach and and we see where his
careers went since then.
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So give me them Memphis Tigers.
Yeah, and I'm right with you on
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this.
Give me the Tigers as well just
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01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:44,320
because of what we have seen
from FSU the first two weeks.
2018
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They just had a bye week.
That's all good and well.
2019
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But if DJ you still a
quarterback and they had haven't
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fixed any of those issues, take
the points because I think
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01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,560
Memphis could win this game
outright and send the Seminoles
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01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:04,200
to O and three.
When I when I pick games, I tend
2023
01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:08,000
to favorite teams that have
dealt with some adversity,
2024
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,880
especially early in the year.
You know, they're they're kind
2025
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:12,040
of frustrated because I think
they're going to bounce back.
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01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:14,800
In this case, I think MSC would
definitely bounce back.
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01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:16,920
They will cover.
I think they win by a pretty
2028
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:18,480
comfortable margin here.
So I got the noise.
2029
01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:20,280
I think they're going to,
they're going to come out pretty
2030
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:21,440
pissed off.
They heard the noise, they heard
2031
01:48:21,440 --> 01:48:24,040
the criticism and they're going
to respond on Saturday.
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01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:30,920
All right, and Tally and Miranda
got on the bus with Shelton and
2033
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:36,040
obviously us Halifax boys are
riding together tonight.
2034
01:48:36,040 --> 01:48:38,800
So there's big screens.
Let's put the big board up
2035
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,040
there.
Yeah, there it is.
2036
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:43,080
There it is.
There it is.
2037
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:47,000
Who who did the best tonight,
Y'all, y'all, y'all drop a
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01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,160
comment in there.
Hit us up on Twitter.
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Let us know who you think has
the best big board heading into
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01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:55,000
the weekend.
Well, this is great, Brian.
2041
01:48:56,120 --> 01:48:59,520
It's it's it's the Shelton tally
combo and against me and you
2042
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:03,840
because look at that board exact
same minds.
2043
01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:08,000
The question is, which great
minds?
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01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:10,680
This week we shall find out.
From and, you know, and, and
2045
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:13,200
maybe Miranda comes out on top
because she's the only one I
2046
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:15,800
think with a couple left field
picks compared to, to most
2047
01:49:15,800 --> 01:49:17,000
everybody else there.
So.
2048
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:19,880
She pivoted on a couple of them
and so we will see.
2049
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:24,320
All right.
Anything coming across the wire,
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01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:27,160
Coming across the Twittersphere,
coming across the Anything in
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01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,840
the last few minutes, last few
hours here.
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Hey, we're all set, man.
I think we're ready to punch it.
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All righty.
Well, that does wrap up this
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episode of the Boundary Corner
podcast brought to you by Counts
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Family Pharmacy in Blacksburg.
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I'm Brian Siegler.
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As always, we let Jason play us
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And this year, we're letting our
buddy Jason Long give us a
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little musical adventure in his
gambling pics every week, which
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we have loved.
I've known Jason since the 4th
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grade, y'all.
So I've known him about as long
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as I've known Siegel.
And Siegel, you've known him as
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long as you've known me.
So he's our boy.
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He plays and plays his out.
We love him.
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So, as always, let's go.
Hokey.
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The.