The Hokies come off a bye licking their wounds after suffering back to back losses, including an embarrassing offensive effort against Clemson. We welcome on our friend Ben Byrd at Bull City Coordinators to preview what we can expect the Blue Devils to bring to the table in Durham on Saturday. We then take a look at the College Football Playoff Picture before making our Big Screeners picks of the week.

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner podcast along with my

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partners, Brian Siegler,
Jonathan Talley and Shelton

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Moss.
I am Curtis Wilson.

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We are a part of the College
Heddle network.

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Blacksburg, VA.

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Well look, everybody decided to
show up this week.

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What y'all doing?
Hey, full force, baby, full

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force.
Like Voltron came together.

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Came together ready, ready,
ready to go.

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Fuck some shit up.
Right, let's go.

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Let's go figure it out.
We had a week off.

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Not we didn't have a week off,
but the Hokies had a week off.

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Yeah, no, we definitely didn't
have the week off and you know,

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and you got a promotion, right?
I I did, I did.

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We're not.
We're not going to go too in

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depth on that yet because it
still hasn't been officially

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announced.
On some channels but.

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Yeah, we're, we're we're excited
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It's it's, it's a, it's a good
thing.

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It's a very good thing and I'm
very excited about it.

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So we'll, we'll make that
officially official next go

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round.
But yeah, it's been a it's it's

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been a much needed buy, as
Steven said there.

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I think, I think the team needed
to buy.

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I think the fans needed to cool
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hot after that last one.
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any any easier this week.
So, you know, we we got a got a

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road trip down to Durham 7 and 3
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It's going to be, it's going to
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It is Wallace Wade Stadium
Saturday night, 8 O clock, get

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everything ready.
At least it's at night.

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Maybe I can enjoy a little bit
of the day.

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Maybe not tonight, but at least
a little bit part of the day.

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I can enjoy it.
I hate three 30s.

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I'm going to tell you, for my
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absolute worst.
If I'm at the game, I love 3:30.

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If I'm watching it at home I
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Crew at 3:30.
So yeah, Shelton, you're awful

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quiet down there.
How's everything going in the

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new apartment and the new in the
new digs?

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It's been great, man.
I'm here in the Berg, the the

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East Coast Berg, Williamsburg,
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So kind of getting settled in
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So I like it a lot.
Got some downtime.

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So I will be in attendance this
weekend at Wallace Wade Stadium.

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I've never been to a game there.
I've been to the campus once,

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but I've never been to a game
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So that'll be that'll be pretty
exciting.

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I can't wait to go.
BCP on site.

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Shelton, are you going to be in
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No, I'm just going as.
I'm going as.

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A fan and as a fan this week
going to sit in the fan or in

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the stadium, not up in the
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That is awesome to hear.
Well, as Brian said a few

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minutes ago, we did not have a
game last week.

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Again, much of the detriment are
good to your everybody's

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healthier.
So there are no truths to tell,

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maybe some lies later on, but no
truths to tell right now.

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So what we're going to do is
we're going to kick it right

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off.
We have a good a, a, a podcast

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colleague of sorts you can say
who's going to tell us a little

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bit about know the enemy with
Duke and we've got pull them on

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here.
We've got Ben Bird who is with

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Duke Bull city coordinators.
Ben, how are you doing tonight,

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man?
Ben, you're on mute.

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I got you here.
Control.

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There we go.
Sorry about that.

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I'm doing well.
How are you guys doing?

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Doing great man, glad to glad
for you to join us.

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And and as we were chatting
offline here before we punched

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live, we found out that that Ben
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our our music man, Jason Long.
So it's it's funny how small the

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world can get when you, you
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connect with different people in
the sports world and all of a

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sudden, you know, somebody that
was your neighbors with somebody

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you've known since middle
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Yeah, that's right.
Jason and Liz and my wife, we

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all knew each other, used to
live next to each other, saw

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each other a couple weekends
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And so one of the good things
about being in Roanoke is you

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get to know everybody.
There you go.

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Jason advised me and Brian here
in a text that it was a porch

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picking party where y'all called
up a little music there.

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That's correct.
We played some old time tunes.

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There were 123 and maybe five of
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Nice.
Good.

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What do you play?
I play guitar.

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I play rhythm guitar.
OK, nice.

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Very nice.
So Ben, obviously you know we

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were talking a little bit before
you've been doing this about

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five years, give a little
background about yourself and

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how because you're a one man
operation, right?

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Yes, so the website's Bull City
coordinators and you can find me

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on most social media accounts at
Duke FB coverage.

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I started doing this in 2019
when the Cutcliffe era started

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going off the rails after the
jump pass against North

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Carolina.
Over time, it evolved into a

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podcast because I got tired of
writing angry, frustrated

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complaints on the Internet.
I just didn't think that was

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really productive.
So I tried to be a little bit

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more positive, a little more
upbeat, and that resulted in

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podcasting where I was
interviewing former players.

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After that, I got to a point
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last season, more journalists
and having other bloggers and

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podcasters who cover team come
on, which led into being on the

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part of the College Huddle
network, which you guys are as

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well.
So that's kind of what it's

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evolved into, altering the
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unplanned evolutions of things.
My podcast has a spin off called

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the Classical Antiquity Side
Quest in which I interviewed

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professors various periods of
time throughout ancient ancient

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Rome and Greece in the accounts
for those on social media.

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I deleted the Twitter account
for it because it was just

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getting spammed by bots.
It's really annoying.

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But on blue sky it's antiquity
pod and I've gotten a lot of

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traction over there.
So if you want to find me, go

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check out antiquity pod on blue
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And the the blue sky classics
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It's big and there's almost, I'm
not getting barraged by

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pornography bots like I was on
Twitter.

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It's it's worked out pretty
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So you can you can subscribe,
like and subscribe at our

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YouTube channel to both
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Nice, nice.
So you got a, you got a couple

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history majors on here as well.
So that definitely, you know,

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you got some interest piqued
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So always fun to like kind of
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in in in your social media
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in all your all your passions
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So I can appreciate that.
So so we got a game this weekend

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and you know, we got with you
were like, Hey, you want to come

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on, talk a little bit about what
your team does well, you know,

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some areas that they can improve
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to expect this Saturday.
So we'll, we'll kick it off with

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defense first.
You know, you got defensive

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coordinator Jonathan Parker, you
got Manny Diaz's obviously got

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his, his fingerprints, his DNA
all over that defense.

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Tell us a little bit about what
the defense is about from a

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scheme perspective and you know,
kind of what some of the

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strengths and weaknesses are of
that scheme.

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Well, as far as the scheme, what
Jonathan Patchy does and Manny

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Diaz do is they get after the
ball aggressively.

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They bring pressure at the right
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They kind of confuse their
blitzes and their coverages.

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But I think primarily what you
see is a lot of the plays that

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they have had a lot of success
on or more coaching, small

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techniques like punching the
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things like that.
Tackling is really good.

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You see in a lot of four, two
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been a lot.
I thought they were going to be

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OK, but it's been a lot better
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primarily because Terry Moore,
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at safety, just has been in the
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And I know they say you can
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because the ball's got to happen
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the right way and land in his
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It's just been for the Blue
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guys who might remember Devon
Edwards 2013 season where he was

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always in the right place at the
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That didn't get repeated.
He still had great plays, but it

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wasn't like that again.
OK, Chandler Rivers has been a

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big help.
So is Kendi Charles, the

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linebackers, Nicholas Bergeron,
Howard Freeman, all those guys

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have been playing great.
But this is a defense that just

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brings pressure, is aggressive
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after either the quarterback or
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of scrimmage.
I think we're leading the nation

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in tackles for loss.
We're right up at the top.

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Against NC State, the 1st 2
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Wolfpack were tackles for loss,
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I mean, this unit's going to get
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And I like a lot of teams.
You have a running quarterback,

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it's going to cause problems.
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break defense and we'll make
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All right, let's, let's talk
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I started looking at it and the
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looking at the stats and data,
Wesley Wilshams jumped out.

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You know, he had a great game
against MC State coming off the

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edge.
They're creating pressure sacks.

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You're also right.
Duke is stirred in the nation

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and tackled for loss.
When you watch him, what do you

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feel his best pass rush move is?
Yeah, it's hard to say because I

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mean, I I don't, I don't pay to
subscribe to watch and break the

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videos down and really slow it
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But what those guys do generally
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They're in great shape.
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through coach feely the what
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conditioning.
I think Duke calls it athletic

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performance.
I don't know, whatever you want

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to call.
I mean, who cares?

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I mean.
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I I mean, I don't want to upset
the Duke football account that's

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following me on my blue sky
account now, but who gives a

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shit what terminology we use for
it, OK?

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I mean, really.
So that is what it is, right?

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Right.
They're just really fast and

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really strong.
And one of the things they talk

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about in the fourth quarter is
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which is not a reference to It's
Always Sunny in Philadelphia and

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Charlie and those guys going
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It's a reference to we are going
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We're going to get dirty, we're
going to get physical, we're

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going to beat you, OK?
And So what you have to look out

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for is a lot of Duke teams
historically as the season went

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on and late in games would tire
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They would tire out because they
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didn't have a lot of depth, the
strength and conditioning wasn't

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as good, and they wouldn't be
able to compete through all four

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quarters, much less all four
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But that's not the case now.
I mean, I was talking to Steve

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Weissman at the News and
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recently.
This team's got like 7 guys who

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can play on the line.
And that's unheard of for a Duke

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team.
I mean, they rotate guys in and

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out, give them chances to play.
So I'm way off of your question,

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but I think what Williams is
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the line is that just being
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not tiring out and getting worn
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Good stuff.
So you got Williams out there.

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Who else should we kind of look
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for Duke?
One guy who's come along real

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well as the season has gone on
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Not that he started slow or
anything, but you could tell he

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was making his presence felt
there it early.

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It may not have been shown up in
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several games the guy's just
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He is a guy that you have got to
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middle.
He was a transfer coming in from

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Liberty and he has really,
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I mean, he he would be a guy
that you've got to find a way to

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slow down and double or
something to keep him from

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getting at getting at the at, at
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where the running backs going to
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any RPO you're trying to run.
Nice.

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We'll pivot on the linebackers
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Oh, go ahead, Curtis.
What you.

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Got Oh, no, no, I was going to
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linebackers, too.
Go ahead, Brian.

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Yeah, I was going to say.
So you kind of talked about, you

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know, transfers there and yeah,
I want to talk to you a little

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bit about that because it looks
like, you know, Duke, at least

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over the last several years, you
know, going back to Elko and

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now.
So with Manny Diaz really

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hitting the transfer portal
pretty heavy to to feel the the

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the depth pieces kind of those
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the roster there.
And you got a couple more at the

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linebacker position there with
with what Howard and and

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Nicholas, correct.
So, you know, looking at those

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guys and just thinking about how
Duke has has done has been

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pretty successful in the last
few years with kind of

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backfilling these positions
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And then you, you know, compare
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elsewhere.
A lot of success considering the

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number of replacements there.
But you know, these these

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linebackers, along with Bergeron
and Freeman, from a statistical

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standpoint, they're all kind of,
you know, jumbled in together.

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They're a little bit kind of
who's the the biggest key to a

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successful game from the
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Well, I think you got to be
looking at a guy like Ozzie

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Nicholas.
He has played really well.

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He came in from Princeton.
He's really smart.

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He can knock the ball loose.
He can make some plays.

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He's been hurt a couple of times
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Nick Morris, I can't remember
the last time he played and

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there was some concern about not
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other guys have stepped in and
played very, very well.

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And Freeman, not that Freeman
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but it was to some extent A1 1
1/2 man show last year with him

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and everybody was kind of
looking at Freeman as he was

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going to be the guy to do
everything.

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And I'm not knocking him, but
the other folks have really done

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a lot more as far as noticeable
impact plays.

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But Freeman's a guy that can go
in and get you 10 tackles easy a

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game.
I think it's just part of the

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system that that's designed and
nobody's upset about it.

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But you know, those guys can
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Bergeron too.
But but Nicholas is a guy that

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you've got to watch out for if
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All right.
Note taking.

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That'd be Ozzie Nicholas.
So you gave us a lot of good

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points about the defense there.
You took my question away on

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Moore and Rivers because
obviously those two guys popped

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out and you telling me I'm
worried about Terry Moore

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because of the way you talked
about how he gets in there and

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the way when I think of that and
I know Terry's a safety, like

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that's the guy coming up in the
line doing that, knocking it

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loose.
And you know, he's already I

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believe I'm not mistaken.
He's already got a couple forced

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fumbles this year along with
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So you you answered my question
for me in your monologue there

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at the beginning, Ben.
So let's kick off.

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Obviously we know y'all got a
really good defense because

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that's Manny's 48.
I want to go to the offensive

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side of the ball, offensive
coordinator Jonathan Brewer

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scheme, What does he do?
What do you like?

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What do you dislike when you
look at this offense?

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The one thing before we get to
that, I do want to say watch out

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for Chandler Rivers in the
secondary.

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He he will do something in this
game on Saturday, at least one

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play.
If you throw to him, he will

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find a way to make you pay for
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But to turn to the offense,
Brewer runs a system that's very

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similar to what is run at SMU
with one critical exception,

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which is Malik Murphy does not
run the ball.

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He does not run much, just it's
not who he is.

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So he did get a rushing
touchdown.

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It was ugly, but it was still a
rushing, rushing touchdown

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against NC State.
He's run a little bit more as

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the season has gone on.
Earlier this season, there was a

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lot of get the ball out and get
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But there have been injuries at
the tight end position which

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have slowed things down as far
as how quickly the offense would

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like to go because some of those
routes over the middle are not

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there.
I'm not trying to critique a

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third string guy, but he's third
string for a reason and you

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can't expect him to be as
developed and talented as well.

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Talent's not the right word, but
you can't expect him to put on

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the show that Nikki Dalmolin was
capable of putting on.

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I think Dalmolin was a fifth
year returning senior before

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unfortunately, his college
career came to an end with a

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with a bad injury, so that
slowed things down some.

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They do like to throw to the
tight end.

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Jake Taylor's getting more
comfortable, so we'll see.

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He's he's, he's gotten a lot
better.

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He didn't play much last year
and honestly, he wasn't slotted

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to play a whole lot this year.
So how fast you can bring them

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along.
You know, next year he could

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take that big leap.
He's just got a lot he's got to

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learn.
It's a new system, new coaching

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staff.
It's a lot for the guy.

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But the rest of the offense,
you've got really good receivers

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at with Eli Penkel with.
Obviously Jordan Moore who made

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a great catch against Miami,
that one handed grab and then

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the catch against NC State for
the touchdown.

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Those guys are really, really
good.

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And then to keep with an inside
Duke football online joke, don't

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sell your Samir Hagen stock.
It's rising, OK?

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He's really fast.
He can get on some underneath

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routes, he can burn you, and he
can be right where he needs to

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be.
I don't want to say the ball's

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been spread around a whole,
whole lot this year because

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Jordan Moore's been had been on
a pitch count for a long time,

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which impacted the rest of the
offense and what could happen.

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But as long as he's healthy, I
expect the ball to be thrown

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around a lot because the offense
is going to gravitate or the

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defense, excuse me, is going to
gravitate towards Jordan Moore,

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which is going to open up Eli
Pankel, which is going to open

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up Samir Hagens and some of the
other guys to perhaps get some

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touches.
And then it's going to come down

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to the running game and how
successful that can be, which is

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a little bit of a longer
discussion.

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All right.
You, you, you highlight Jordan

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Moore there.
What is he?

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What is his best attribute?
What is he?

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Look at him.
What?

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What, What's the thing he's
going to do that's going to hurt

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you the most?
Well, with Jordan Moore, it's

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his, you know, one of the things
that I like about what Brewer is

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doing, because I didn't really
fully answer that question and I

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apologize.
I think Brewer's doing a really

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good job and how you utilize
Jordan Moore is a good example

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of that.
Even with the injuries this team

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has had to navigate, what Jordan
Moore can do is get down the

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field.
He can get open and he can go up

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and get the ball.
If it's thrown high, he's hard

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to defend.
He is a converted quarterback.

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Years ago in a spring game under
Cutcliffe, I saw him with the

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offense and I said this guy's
going to be special.

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He's got it.
There's just something about it.

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I didn't think he was going to
be this good, mind you, but I

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thought he was going to be a
good player to Duke, and he

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turned out to be.
He's hard to defend.

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He can go up and get the ball.
And that's what Brewer likes to

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do.
And you know, there's been some

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complaints about Brewer this
year, but I think when Jordan

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Moore is healthy, this offense
looks a lot better.

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And you can see what Brewer
wants to do with the ball, which

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is spread it over the field,
take shots down the field to

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open up the run game and really
let the quarterback air it out

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at times.
So if you see man coverage, if

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you see single man coverage,
watch that ball go deep.

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Kelly, go ahead, man.
You're, you're freezing.

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Is you're about to ask your
question?

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Oh yeah, you know how it is.
Internet crazy now here, but I

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was just going to ask about the
offensive line.

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When you talk about the running
game, you know, Murphy's had a

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pretty good year.
Offensive coordinator has really

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utilized, you know, you guys as
talents that you have there.

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So how does your offensive line
kind of work?

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And who's the key to the
offensive line?

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Yeah, that is a really good
question.

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I don't know how best to answer
that.

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The the offensive line has been
a little bit of a work in

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progress because there were a
lot of new guys coming in.

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But there's been guys like
Pickett on the line who've been,

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who've been very good, who've
been playing very well.

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Bruno Fina's been there as well.
And there's a good number of

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other guys.
And actually what we saw against

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NC State was the line went to,
they had six guys on the line to

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help with pass blocking and some
of the down the field routes and

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it it worked.
I don't know how much we're

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going to see that again.
I think that was more of a

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calculated choice just to throw
the ball against State, but

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we'll see.
The offensive line, I don't want

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to say has done poorly, but what
we saw for a good part of the

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season was this focus on
shutting the run game down and

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making Murphy beat you at the
pass.

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So * Thomas has done well at
times.

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Peyton Jones, who I think is
going to play at times.

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Jacques Moore may actually play
this game.

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It's unclear.
He's going to red shirt, but

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he's got one more game of
eligibility.

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So it'll either be this game or
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If he plays.
It could just be fluff from the

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coaching staff, who knows, But I
think for the offensive line to

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do well, it's going to depend to
some extent on what Virginia

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Tech decides to do.
If Virginia Tech says we're just

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going to load up the box, put
eight guys in the box, OK, and

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we're going to bring our
safeties down, you know, it's

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going to be hard to run against
that.

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I don't care how good of a line
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But if if the safeties drop back
like Carolina, like in the

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Carolina game where that there
were two high safeties * Thomas

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and Peyton Jones, who should be
back from his injury that he

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suffered against State.
Excuse me, I expect, you know, I

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expect some success there
running the ball, especially if

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if Murphy keeps it on one or two
RP OS.

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If he keeps it and then the
hokey defense has to be honest,

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that's going to really help the
offensive line.

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If he decides he doesn't want to
run, then they just key in on

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the running back.
You know, we'll see.

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So I think how well the
offensive line is going to do is

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going to be more a focus of what
the Hokies defensive strategy is

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going to be.
If the Hokies say we're going to

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make you throw to beat us, the
offensive line will pass block.

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They're very good at that, that
unit's good at that.

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But how much they're going to be
able to run out of that if

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you've got 7 or 8 guys in the
box all night, I don't know.

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Sheldon, you had some you wanted
to add, right?

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Yeah.
So you know, typically when

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we're playing a team like to
look at kind of the the stats,

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advanced stats and kind of see
what they do well, what they

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don't do so well.
So looking at Duke, the one

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00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:21,160
thing that stands out to me on
offense, 3rd and 4th down

447
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,160
conversion rate put together,
they rank 132nd, just 29% on

448
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,160
those late downs.
Now, as we know, a lot of it has

449
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,320
to do with the the, the distance
that you're facing on 3rd downs.

450
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,080
You know, if you're in 3rd lung,
obviously much less likely you

451
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,200
convert the down from your
perspective.

452
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,800
I know the online struggle a
little bit.

453
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,120
Running game hasn't been super
efficient.

454
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,960
What do you think has been the
big bugaboo on 3rd downs and

455
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,480
why?
Duke has just been so incredibly

456
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,640
inefficient there.
I think a lot of it probably

457
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:53,120
early in the season has been
struggling to get the field

458
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,760
position that you'd like.
There was a lot of incomplete

459
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,000
run for two yards and then
you're in 3rd and eight.

460
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,040
A run for three yards, you're in
3rd and seven.

461
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,280
That's had a lot to do with it.
I also think, again, Murphy is

462
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:12,440
still pretty darn young and he
he's developing.

463
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,120
He's developing and growing as a
quarterback and he's looking

464
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:21,440
more comfortable with each game.
So I think that's had a lot to

465
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,200
do with it.
I don't think historically Duke

466
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,800
has been particularly good on
those yards for a while.

467
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,640
I I'd have to go back and look
because I'd I try not to get too

468
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:38,080
crazy into those kind of
statistics, but I think that

469
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,960
that has a lot to do with it.
I'm looking at the box score

470
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,680
from last game.
I'm trying to pull it up here,

471
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,360
but this might be accurate.
Duke was zero of nine on 3rd

472
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,440
down.
That's hard to believe, but wow,

473
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,520
no, it's not.
I think it's probably more a

474
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,240
game of of an issue of field
position more than anything

475
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,400
else.
And as far as where they are on

476
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:07,320
those down in distances they can
when they want to.

477
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,840
Well, I could go on a long
tangent about not putting

478
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,080
quarterbacks under center.
I'm not going to do that, I

479
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,800
won't, but I do think some of
that plays into it.

480
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,240
Although they did put Murphy
under center a couple of times.

481
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,320
That could change a little bit
this week though on some of

482
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:32,160
those third down plays because
last game Grayson Loftus came in

483
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,720
for a play and a play or two and
ran the ball.

484
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,160
It would not surprise me if we
see a small Loftus or Bealing

485
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,240
package for backups.
Loftus is going to red shirt

486
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,240
this year.
He can play these next two games

487
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,640
and he can come in and be like a
Thomas Sirk or Brandon Connect

488
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,320
type.
And if that happens then you're

489
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,800
looking at a very different
dynamic.

490
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,920
Loftus is a little bit of a
gunslinger too.

491
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:06,520
He can throw better than Sirk or
Connect good I think, but he can

492
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,680
run real well too.
Let me ask this, Ben, and does

493
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:16,800
it give you pause for concern
that the only game this year

494
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,400
that Duke played against the top
five pass rush was against

495
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,720
Carolina, A top 25 pass rush was
Carolina allowed five sacks in

496
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,320
that game.
When you start hearing APR, you

497
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,240
start hearing the names of
Virginia Tech, currently 10th.

498
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,480
How much does that give you
concern?

499
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,680
Because I look at Duke's
numbers, it's like, wow, that's

500
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,800
a great pass rush.
And I looked at the Carolina

501
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,000
game and it's like, that's the
best pass rush they've seen.

502
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,520
Malik Murphy was on his back a
lot during that game.

503
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,640
I have a hard time believing
North Carolina's pass rush was

504
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,120
that good.
Is that accurate?

505
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,880
I'm not doubting you, but I
just.

506
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,600
North Carolina ranks, I'll get
it for you right here in team

507
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,400
sacks they are.
I got to get it back to it

508
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,440
because it was on another
screen.

509
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,800
Of course they are the 5th rated
pass rush or team sacks in the

510
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,360
country.
Text 10th.

511
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,280
On on the Carolina one, I think,
I think we got to get a recount

512
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,720
on that.
Jump pull the data for me man.

513
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,080
No, no, no.
I'm not questioning it, I'm not

514
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,560
questioning it.
I just that just kind of speaks

515
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,320
to.
It doesn't feel like it.

516
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,280
I I I agree with you from that
respect.

517
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,120
Coordinator there it was at
Georgia Tech.

518
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,160
We call him a can of tuna online
Jeff.

519
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:42,080
Collins, Oh, Jeff Collins.
It seems like yeah, the can of

520
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,480
Tunas team should be doing a
little bit better with that soft

521
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,280
schedule that they've had all
season.

522
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,920
You know, the thing that worries
me about playing Virginia Tech

523
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,880
is Virginia Tech always has a
lot of talent.

524
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,320
They always have tall guys in
the secondary.

525
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:06,680
I think though, Murphy, what we
were at that game, the offense

526
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:12,120
struggled early but picked it up
late and he's a different

527
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,880
quarterback I think now than he
was at the beginning of the

528
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,360
season.
I'm not too worried about the

529
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,400
Carolina game as a reference
point for it, but I am worried

530
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,640
about anytime you play Virginia
Tech, there's always a good deal

531
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,600
of talent there that you have to
be worried about, right?

532
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,160
That's what that's what worries
me about it more than anything

533
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,360
else.
It's just the talent level that

534
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,560
Virginia Tech will always have
or should always have.

535
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,440
You know what it's it's always
fun to have someone on that can

536
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,280
shit on Carolina with you.
So thank you.

537
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,640
I'm just going to.
I'm going to say it, You know,

538
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,720
look, this was a year you people
are talking about.

539
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,360
Oh, Carolina's turned a corner.
They're back.

540
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,400
If they don't win 8 games,
there's no excuse for it.

541
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,440
They haven't played.
I mean, if they had Georgia Tech

542
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,720
schedule right now, they would
not have won it.

543
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,200
They would not have won a game.
We know this.

544
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,400
Come on, let's be real.
Yeah, when when our friend from

545
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Georgia Tech from rec talk was
on here, he, he he got the whole

546
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,720
Jeff Collins thing rolling.
So it's, it's it's been a fun

547
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,680
year to kind of shit on the UNC
defense despite them apparently

548
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,440
being a, a fairly good team when
it comes to team sacks, though,

549
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,400
apparently most of those came
against UVA and I guess Duke at

550
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,160
this point, if we're if we're
looking at the the the

551
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,640
accumulated sacks, though.
But you talked a lot about Malik

552
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,400
Murphy and, and kind of what he
does with his legs, or in this

553
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,160
case doesn't do with his legs.
I mean, he looks like he's he's

554
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,280
a pretty good athlete when he
does decide to run, but it just

555
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,320
doesn't look like it's it's
motivated part of his game.

556
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,200
So talk about that a little bit.
I wouldn't quite put it that

557
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,120
way.
When he runs, it's not pretty.

558
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,800
I'd say a little bit of wiggle.
I'm not necessarily saying he

559
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,040
looks like he's going to go out
there and and you know, put a

560
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,080
track meter or anything.
I.

561
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,800
Appreciate that you're trying to
put a positive spin on it, but

562
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,280
but it does not look, you know,
you remember when Charlie Batch

563
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,240
couldn't.
Slide.

564
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,960
OK.
All right.

565
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,160
That's fair.
It's like that, except Charlie

566
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Batch had a more natural run in
motion to him so.

567
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:24,720
Yeah, it'll hit you in the giddy
up.

568
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,720
Well, I don't want to quite say
it's like Luigi and Mario 2 with

569
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,480
the weird jump legs, but it
never looks good when Murphy is

570
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,360
running.
So.

571
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,760
But that's not what he's there.
That's not what he's there for.

572
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,240
OK, that's not what he's there
for.

573
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,400
But what what he can do.
He can throw the ball deep.

574
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,480
He can put touch on it.
You know, he can He can move the

575
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,720
ball all over the field.
He can hit short routes, He can

576
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:57,680
hit wrong long routes.
He's very good at throwing, at

577
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,520
throwing the football.
And if he sees single man

578
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,440
coverage, he's going to give his
receivers a shot.

579
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,480
So he's a guy you got to worry
about and he has run some.

580
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,440
And I think that that is
something that if he does just a

581
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,880
couple of times a game, the
defense is going to have to keep

582
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,639
honest.
But you know, he's been a it's,

583
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,760
it took him a little bit to get
his sea legs under him.

584
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,440
And I think he's got them under
him now these last several

585
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,880
games.
So I think we're all excited

586
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,440
about it.
And if you look at how he

587
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,360
played, the Florida State game
was more by design.

588
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,199
He didn't do a lot.
But SMU, Miami and NC State,

589
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,080
he's had three really good
games.

590
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,120
I know with Miami, he had the
picks.

591
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,760
I think one or two of those
might have been bounces,

592
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,639
deflections off hands of
receivers.

593
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,920
That happens sometimes.
So he's looked a lot better of

594
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:56,040
of light.
Yeah, and he, you know, looking

595
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,040
at him throw the ball, I mean,
he's got a cannon of a right

596
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,520
arm.
So the the ball definitely gets

597
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,200
out there and he can make all
those throws.

598
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,600
So if he, if he can give us, you
know, any, any sort of trouble

599
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,520
with the with the decoy, with
his legs there, I think that

600
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,480
that could be interesting and
open some things up for you

601
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,640
guys, both in the running game
and the passing game.

602
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,360
And then as, as we kind of wrap
it up here and you kind of look

603
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,960
to Saturday night, what's your
one big key like as you're

604
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,640
sitting here, it's probably
going to be 11/11/15.

605
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:33,640
And the big key one way or the
other is.

606
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:41,600
Not to simplify it, but
turnovers and field position, I

607
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,680
think the team that can control
the turnovers, again, this is

608
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,800
ground breaking stuff.
No one will tell you this,

609
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,320
right?
This is football's a lot simpler

610
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,640
than we like it to be.
But I think the team that

611
00:35:54,640 --> 00:36:00,040
controls the turnover battle and
the particularly the field

612
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,560
position, the field position can
come in a number of different

613
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:08,240
ways.
It can be done by pushing the

614
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:12,280
Hokies back by tackles for loss
or it can be done by the kicking

615
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,000
game.
So those are the two things I'll

616
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,560
be watching come Saturday
primarily.

617
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,560
I mean, if if Duke's in that
backfield causing havoc, I think

618
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,080
it's going to be a good good
evening.

619
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,880
It's going to be a good night
for the Blue Devils.

620
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,400
Not not so much of a good night
for my buddy Chris, who's coming

621
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,600
down to the game with me, but
we'll see.

622
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,840
He's a he's a Hokie.
Hey, you're, you're in Hokie

623
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,560
country there in Roanoke.
So it's probably probably a

624
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,920
bunch of your buddies wear the
maroon and orange on a regular

625
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,880
basis.
Good number of them.

626
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,080
We're here, man.
Well, listen, I mean you, you

627
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,800
tell the truth about that man.
Because you know Duke, you guys,

628
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,560
your turnover margin is top five
in the country.

629
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,480
Your turnover gained is top five
in the country.

630
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,720
So you know, I, I, I don't think
you're lying about that

631
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,960
whatsoever.
But Ben, man, it's been a

632
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,720
pleasure talking with you
tonight.

633
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,400
Real quick, give you one more
time.

634
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,040
Tell everybody where they can
find you, social media,

635
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,240
websites, all that good stuff.
All right, before I do that, I

636
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:14,720
just want to say one thing about
comparative schedules for North

637
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,320
Carolina and and Georgia Tech.
Go back to my point for this

638
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,160
fraud Tar Heel team.
They played Minnesota, Minnesota

639
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,680
whoopty frickin do OK Charlotte,
North Carolina Central.

640
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,160
I'm not going to knock those
guys.

641
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,640
I love them.
James Madison in a program

642
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,720
transitional year, OK.
In a basketball game.

643
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,800
Oh, exactly.
And some Carolina fan before the

644
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,240
Duke game tried to talk smack to
us about it.

645
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:42,280
I said we're going for 71, shut
your mouth.

646
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,640
And then the only the only games
that they have had to play that

647
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,880
are tough this year, OK, that
you look at the schedule are

648
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:58,560
Duke, Pitt, Georgia Tech.
OK, now, Georgia Tech had to go

649
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,400
to your house, right, To play
Virginia Tech?

650
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:02,760
Yeah.
Who?

651
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,440
Who does North Carolina get
instead?

652
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,000
Virginia, The Cavaliers, not a
real football team.

653
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,080
Come on, let's.
Get things we can.

654
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,760
Agree wearing pants.
Things we can agree on.

655
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,520
All right, I mean for real, just
compare those schedule.

656
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,920
This was all the ACC helping Mac
Brown out, Brown out.

657
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,280
Pathetic.
Just disgusting.

658
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,240
Anyway, all right, so where can
you find us?

659
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,560
You, you or find me?
You can find me at

660
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,280
bullcitycoordinators.com.
Check out the YouTube channel

661
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,160
which I think is at Duke FB
coverage.

662
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,520
Most all the socials are there.
You can get both the podcasts,

663
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,200
the Bull City Coordinators Duke
Football coverage podcast, and

664
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,800
the Classical Antiquity side
quest which covers topics from

665
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,680
ancient Greece and Rome.
Do about one episode a month.

666
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,800
I've got 2 I need to edit and a
couple more I need to record.

667
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,640
That'll get me into next year
and on the socials for that one.

668
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,120
Primarily just blue Sky at
Antiquity pod.

669
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,040
For the three of you who are
decentralized weirdos who hate

670
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,360
over over control of technology,
I'd have Mastodon accounts.

671
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,360
I don't really do a whole lot
with it, but at Duke FB coverage

672
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,760
on Mastodon and at Antiquity Pod
on Mastodon as well.

673
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:22,040
And the Instagram account for
Duke football coverage just has

674
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,480
both.
I don't, I don't have two

675
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,120
Instagram accounts.
So that if you just just check

676
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,960
out pretty much any social that
Duke FB coverage or at antiquity

677
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:35,840
pod, it's a great, a great
merging of football and the

678
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,880
classics.
So you can hopefully find

679
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,800
something that you enjoy.
I got interested in ancient Rome

680
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,000
later in life.
So it's just kind of something

681
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,880
I've picked up in my 30s.
Nice.

682
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,720
It's always good to have a
little bit of a passion project,

683
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,120
especially when you pick up a
little bit later in life.

684
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,280
Especially when you deal with
the typical misery of Duke

685
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:02,480
football over the years.
Ben, we again appreciate you

686
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,440
having on.
Thank you for making us laugh.

687
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:10,320
Thank you for making us say fuck
you VA, fuck Carolina, because

688
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,880
we appreciate that.
And maybe the next time when we

689
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,320
roll through Roanoke, we'll hit
up Jason, We'll hit up you and

690
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,080
go to what is it, the food
truck?

691
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,760
Mama Jeans is Mama Jeans the
food truck.

692
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,800
Oh man, that's right.
Yeah, yeah, that's right.

693
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,760
Yeah, I, I that stumbled them on
Facebook one day and their food

694
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,480
looks amazing.
So I'm going to find that truck

695
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,440
next time I go to Roanoke.
There you go.

696
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,120
Well, that'd be good.
I'd love to catch up with you

697
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,000
guys and Shelton.
You said you were coming to the

698
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,560
game.
That's correct.

699
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,720
I'll.
I'll be there.

700
00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:46,160
Let me check real quick, see
where I'm sitting.

701
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:52,480
I think I'll be in.
Yeah, I'll be in Section 30 near

702
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,880
the top. 30, OK, yeah.
So if you want to swing by, I'll

703
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,880
say hello will do all right.
Awesome, Ben.

704
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,800
Well, appreciate the time and
you have a good evening.

705
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,960
All right, you guys too.
Thanks for having me.

706
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,200
On appreciate it, Ben.
Yes, Sir.

707
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,560
All right, Ben, thank you.
All righty guy there was Ben

708
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:15,880
bird with bold city
coordinators, so go check him

709
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,080
out again.
Small world.

710
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,320
It's really hilarious.
You start talking to somebody

711
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,480
and they know somebody even own
literally your whole life.

712
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,280
We know we probably could point
deaths.

713
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,360
It is.
That's why Jason's going to take

714
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,080
us there next time.
We're down and rolling up, but

715
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:37,120
but to be for real now, like
that's that's the funnest part

716
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,120
about doing this.
We always run into people that

717
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,560
somehow know somebody we know in
some way, shape or form.

718
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,160
And that's why I love doing it.
Ben was great.

719
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:50,200
A lot of good info there.
So as we normally do after we

720
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,800
get to know the enemy and Ben
did a great job talking about a

721
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,040
lot of key players.
So maybe little wrinkles we

722
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,640
might see from Duke.
We've got to talk about the

723
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,680
Hokies keys on Saturday night
down in Durham and Shelton.

724
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,640
I'm going to start with you
first.

725
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,160
What do you have?
What is the key to this game at

726
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,720
A5 and five Hokies attempt to
get bowl eligible in the Bowl

727
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:14,760
City.
I mean, well, the biggest key, I

728
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,000
guess is motivation because you
know, you're playing, you're a

729
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,120
500 football team playing for
bowl eligibility.

730
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,160
If you lose this one, you never
know what can happen next week

731
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,560
in CVA.
So, you know, just come be, show

732
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,000
up motivated, you know, show up
like, you know, you you want to

733
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,880
play and and this is what you
know, you're getting paid to do

734
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,440
because, you know, these guys
are getting paid now.

735
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,080
And as far as the game itself, I
mean, I don't know, I think I

736
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,320
don't think tech will have
trouble stopping the run because

737
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,120
I don't think Duke's been very
good at all running the

738
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,400
football.
So I'd say just, you know, if

739
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,680
they could stop fast, I think
that make Duke pretty

740
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,080
one-dimensional offensively.
It's going to be a low scoring

741
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,880
game.
So just, you know, don't get

742
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,240
beat with a deep ball.
That should should be a pretty

743
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:56,120
good strategy.
All right, Tally.

744
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,120
What about you, man?
Man, I don't just see it.

745
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,560
Just.
Kind of the piggyback on what

746
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,440
Sheldon said, You got to coach
and play for your job.

747
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,800
You're getting paid.
As far as coaches, definitely

748
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,240
getting paid.
But you know, players NIL,

749
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,520
you're getting paid as well.
So when I say coach and play for

750
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,480
your job, coaches, somebody got
to go.

751
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,960
Somebody got to follow on the
knife.

752
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:24,200
If you like being here, fucking
do something right and hope it

753
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,000
ain't you because somebody got
to go.

754
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:30,920
At the end of the year, players,
I'm players are playing four

755
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,400
position, you know what I'm
saying?

756
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,920
Because coaches if they're
coaching for the job and you're

757
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,400
not getting the job done,
they're looking to put somebody

758
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,520
else in that spot to go well, we
could have been better if we

759
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,600
would have had a better blank,
you know, whatever the case

760
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,120
might be, or if this person
wouldn't have got hurt and we

761
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,000
had somebody to back him up, we
could have done this.

762
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,880
So players, if we get an
opportunity to play when

763
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,000
people's hurt, you got to play,
you know, or if you're playing

764
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,400
for, if you're playing for film,
to go somewhere else.

765
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,440
Like you got to have that.
You got to get in here and you

766
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,280
got to act like it means
something and you got to play

767
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,480
for your job.
Yeah.

768
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,320
All right, Brian.
Tally makes a great point there

769
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,960
is that you know regardless of
what next season holds, whether

770
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,120
you're here, they are anywhere
else, You, you, you.

771
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,960
These still matter because your
tape matters.

772
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,000
What you do from a coaching
perspective matters.

773
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,320
Everything is still, I think,
big from that perspective.

774
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:34,280
So don't lose sight of the fact
that just because you're only

775
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,640
playing for a bowl at this point
that you don't have anything to

776
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,680
play for from a big picture
standpoint.

777
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,880
But the thing I will talk about
it and actually Robbie put it in

778
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:45,800
here, but I had already had it
on my notes.

779
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,600
You already had a.
While ago, Robbie, So I didn't

780
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,040
steal it from you.
No, he didn't have an identity

781
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,520
on offense, have an identity on
offense.

782
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,920
And and to piggyback some on on
what Ben was talking about is

783
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:01,760
within that identity.
You can't be the offense that

784
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,760
turns the ball over in your own
territory.

785
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,840
You got to make sure that you're
you're taking care of field

786
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,120
position, but you also need to
to make sure that you're an

787
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,120
offense that is efficient moving
the ball down the field.

788
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,520
It doesn't get bogged down in
these long periods of just

789
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,080
looking completely inept, not
leaning on the strengths of your

790
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,160
offense and forgetting the
weapons that you have on your

791
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,160
offense.
We we love to see Kyron out

792
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,520
there doing Kyron things, but
you don't have to run Kyron into

793
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,880
a wall to to have an offense.
We've we've got to have.

794
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,200
We got other weapons out there.
We need to lean on those other

795
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,160
weapons and that's whether Kyron
plays or not.

796
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,880
I know we've got a bunch of
questionable designations.

797
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,040
Again, again, we don't really
know what that means.

798
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,840
You know, when they were
probable, they didn't go.

799
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,520
When they were questionable,
they did and they probably

800
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,120
shouldn't.
So yeah, we'll, we'll see who

801
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,840
lines up on Saturday for the
Hokies at quarterback and

802
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,680
running back.
But whatever they do, we need to

803
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,600
lean on the running, the rushing
attack because that is the

804
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,520
identity of this football team
from an offensive standpoint.

805
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,360
Yeah, I'm going to throw a
couple pieces in here.

806
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,120
Some folks putting their thought
processes up.

807
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,080
Robbie again, office on the
defensive side.

808
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,840
Yep, Pressure, pressure,
pressure.

809
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,160
Hey, this is a big one.
Oh, you grabbed one?

810
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,600
I grabbed another one.
Go for it.

811
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,440
Yep, look at that.
Didn't take long, did it?

812
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,320
I see you out there, Chris.
We see Chris Kelly been saying

813
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,680
it like these guys that damn
good, let them play.

814
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,480
Josh Young.
Yep, Josh, you had two on here

815
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,040
because there you go.
The only thing what's my key?

816
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,920
Well y'all, we're freaking game
10 of this year and.

817
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,600
We Curtis, hold on, hold on,
hold on.

818
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,840
Before you go with your with
your I want no, I just want to

819
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,960
say this so you can wrap it up
when we talk about everything we

820
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:00,320
talked about to the Hokie Keys
shirt that we got sent, said 37.

821
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,880
Seven and.
Then there's a question mark.

822
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:05,520
These next two games are
important.

823
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,080
Very.
The bowl game is important if

824
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:14,520
you make it because you still
can sell the program if that

825
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,520
number is a certain number.
You go with your you go with

826
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,080
your keys are Curtis.
I just want to say that.

827
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,840
There you go, there you go.
What do I do that?

828
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,320
But like I said, we have played
10 games.

829
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,200
This is game #11 as Dwight's
putting on the screen there and

830
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,960
I sit here and it's like I have
no more hokey keys to give.

831
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,200
Why?
Because I've seen 10 games this

832
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,240
year in an all 10.
This team could have won every

833
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:46,560
single one of them.
Every single one of them.

834
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,200
People say, well, Clemson was
no, they could have won that

835
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,960
Clemson game.
They could have.

836
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,080
People can say, well, it was a
shut up.

837
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,360
They could have won that game.
Look at the passion, how hard

838
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,360
that defense was playing that
game.

839
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,720
Look at every game this year.
And that's what irritates me as

840
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:05,520
a fan because if we were five
and five and we were an average

841
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,000
team, it's last year, right?
This is good.

842
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:10,480
Hey, we're back on the right
track.

843
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,920
This is not an average team.
This is an above average team

844
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,000
with good players.
How many Senior Bowl invites APR

845
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,120
didn't get one.
You know why APR didn't get one?

846
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,080
Because APR is going in the 1st
2 rounds and those guys don't go

847
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,040
to the Senior Bowl to get your
stock numbers up.

848
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,240
Don't need to they.
Don't need to.

849
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,800
And that's what irritates me.
And like when I say, what's the

850
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:35,600
key play to your ability, coach
to your ability, because if you

851
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,720
do, you wipe the floor with Duke
on Saturday night.

852
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,040
And I know Ben, I love to having
you here.

853
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,360
But if the Hokie a game and the
Duke a game both show up, the

854
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,040
Hokies are winning by 17 points.
The issue is we brought a bunch

855
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,800
of C and a bunch of D games this
fucking year and that's why

856
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,280
we're five and five.
And the bad part about it is a

857
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,320
lot of those games, the season
DS didn't show up until the last

858
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,960
five minutes.
Hey guys, did you know we were

859
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:04,640
getting a Curtis rant?
We needed it, holding it.

860
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,920
It's been we had a we had a
feisty Curtis who owned it and

861
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,280
think about it.
Yeah, we had a about week to

862
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,960
kind of Stew on it and think
about it and need you, right.

863
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:23,400
I mean, if you plan a team and
they just better than you, you

864
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,920
lose.
It happens.

865
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,720
Oh, we got to do better.
We got to coach better.

866
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:31,400
We got to play better.
If somebody's hurt, don't

867
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,520
fucking play them.
Let them go to you.

868
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,120
Put somebody else in.
If they're on scholarship,

869
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,560
they're on scholarship for a
reason.

870
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:42,120
Yeah.
Don't put a running back in and

871
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:45,600
never fucking run the ball.
It makes no sense.

872
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,720
That pisses me off.
Yeah, real quick.

873
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:52,080
I'm glad you put this up, Brian.
On a very serious note, not only

874
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,560
Gabe's, Gabe's leg injury by all
means.

875
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,120
That looks like that's just your
normal injury.

876
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,480
He's going to be OK.
If y'all were not aware Gabe put

877
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:04,400
it up young man.
I consider close to his podcast.

878
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,360
When he first committed we got
to interview him.

879
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,760
It was awesome.
We communicated with the

880
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,720
numerous times his father fell
significantly I'll after he got

881
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:16,560
hurt his father as of the other
day and somebody might have to

882
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:21,120
keep this up because if anything
has changed, his father was in

883
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,720
very serious condition down at
Roanoke Hospital.

884
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:27,880
So, you know, Stephen, thank you
for putting that in there.

885
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,480
Do you know, say a prayer,
forgave his whole family as they

886
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,800
go through this time because
that's, I know, you know, no one

887
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,280
gave in his passion, You know,
that comes from somebody in the

888
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,080
family.
And it's very likely his dad

889
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,680
about how much he loves the
sport and everything.

890
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:49,360
So yeah.
I mean talk, talk about a, a, a

891
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,400
very composed and mature person.
Damn.

892
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,920
When when we spoke with him, I
mean, but definitely well beyond

893
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,440
his years in terms of his
composure and his passion for

894
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:08,160
the game and, and just his
ability to kind of understand

895
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,960
kind of where he fits in the
puzzle and, and, and the drive

896
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,320
and, and like you said, that
that's got to come from

897
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,080
somewhere.
So, you know, prayers up to him

898
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,560
and prayers up to his family,
you know, for, for healing

899
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,160
during this time, man, because
that was that was definitely a,

900
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,480
a, a big struggle.
And I'm, I'm hoping that he's,

901
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,240
he's making some progress.
His dad is and obviously Gabe

902
00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:32,800
with the with the surgery, you
know, on his leg there so.

903
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,160
Yeah, Chris just put in the
chat, put that up.

904
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,280
Chris just put in the chat.
He said that his dad's doing

905
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,600
better and Gabe had a successful
surgery today, so that's

906
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,360
awesome.
That's great to hear man.

907
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,800
Appreciate it, Chris, for
keeping us updated.

908
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,240
Yeah.
Definitely, definitely that.

909
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:52,560
And like I said, man, I mean, of
course, prayers up for his

910
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:58,480
family, prayers up for the young
man while we on here talking

911
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,360
about coaching and playing and
things like that.

912
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,120
This is also what sports is
about.

913
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,000
Not people being hurt, but
coming together after a tragedy,

914
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,720
you know, and that is a is a big
thing, a huge thing for that

915
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:16,480
young man to go through.
And when we talk about him being

916
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:21,040
composed and mature, he was the
one who came online and put, you

917
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,000
know, hey, this is what's going
on with my family.

918
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,960
Hey, hokey nation, can y'all,
you know, pray for us and, and

919
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,200
keep us lifted up.
So to have that mindset and to

920
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,440
know he has a, you know, know,
he has a outlet that he can turn

921
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,880
to and a community he can turn
to is big.

922
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,800
You know what I'm saying?
Because some people feel like

923
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,480
when stuff like that bad
happens, they have nobody.

924
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,520
So for all the bad things that
we talk about on the field and

925
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,920
what it is, I know that hokey
nation's got the back.

926
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,400
I know that God's got the back.
So keep setting them up, man.

927
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,360
Keep on praying.
Keep on, you know, uplifting

928
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,160
these players, especially during
times like that.

929
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,000
So whoever put that up, thank
you because that definitely

930
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,000
needed to be said.
And I had forgot all about it

931
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,920
when we started to get into the
podcast, just rolling through

932
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,240
things that we're talking about,
rolling through things in our

933
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:15,680
life.
So whoever put that up, man,

934
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,360
thank you so much for that.
Steve, appreciate yourself.

935
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,320
Let's go here.
We got to make predictions

936
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,960
whether we feel good or bad
about them, but we got to do

937
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,080
them.
Shelton, I'm going to let you

938
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,520
kick it off cuz you are going to
the game.

939
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,200
You will see it in living color.
In living what?

940
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,320
Do you think happened Saturday
night?

941
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,920
Great.
For whatever reason, I think

942
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,600
tech will win.
I'll take Vt 24 to 20.

943
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,040
I think they'll get a little bit
bounce back.

944
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:49,560
Rest off the bye week.
I think Drones will play have

945
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,360
kind of mentioned him pretty
well and Tech will escape with a

946
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,160
close W for the first time since
the 2022 Liberty game.

947
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,800
Jesus, 3 two years to the day
tally.

948
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,480
What about you?
I was going to go first because

949
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:06,000
I I know Shelton like most of
the time I'm like, why you make

950
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,160
me go 1st and being Shelton goes
after.

951
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,640
But I was going to go first
because I want people to think I

952
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,080
was copying it because like
while being was talking, I was

953
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:22,680
actively changing my my
prediction on the rundown and

954
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,400
I'm going Hokies, I'm going
Hokies.

955
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,360
I think we get a 10 point win
this week.

956
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,920
Being disconnected from football
for about two weeks was great,

957
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,920
but I still didn't like have
time to myself.

958
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,240
But here and being talk, being
thank you again for coming on.

959
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,800
I think that we match up well
with them.

960
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,880
I don't know if Kyron will be
healthy enough to play, but I do

961
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:51,120
know we have a capable backup
and I think our defensive play

962
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,520
inspired enough to get us to
some things and get us in some

963
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,760
positions.
It's going to be positive for

964
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,560
us.
And what I forgot about was

965
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,560
people's legacy game.
Let's go.

966
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:05,640
That's a good.
Point.

967
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,800
That's a good point.
I forgot about the People's

968
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,240
Legacy game.
I like that.

969
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:14,920
I like that.
I'm going 2720 good guys here.

970
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,640
I think this is the first time
that me, Tally and Sheldon have

971
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,240
picked the Hokies in a long
time.

972
00:55:22,240 --> 00:55:25,600
I know Tally was was trying not
to break the streak there with

973
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,760
the picking against the Hokies
when they when they started

974
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,840
winning, but that's that's
burned now.

975
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,240
That's burned now.
Burned that to the ground.

976
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,360
So I'm going 2720 good guys.
I much like Tally.

977
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,160
I think we match up well.
I think their defense is good,

978
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,840
but I think we'll be able to to
do some things to to move the

979
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,360
ball down the field.
And I I think our defense is

980
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,280
going to play well in this one.
I don't think that they're

981
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,120
they're going to burn us on on
3rd down like some other teams

982
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,200
have.
And I and I don't think that

983
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,840
they're going to be able to run
the football as effectively as

984
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,000
they will need to to be
effective in this game.

985
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,360
All right, Well, well, well, you
know, Leave it to me, huh?

986
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,040
You got to.
Beaver, you got to leave it to

987
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:16,240
me, huh?
Bring it home, Curtis.

988
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,760
Let's go.
Bring it home.

989
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,640
Well, you know what?
I'm much like Tally.

990
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,840
I was leaning the other way and
hearing Ben talk and Ben gave

991
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,480
some good information.
But I think the Gabe Williams

992
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,160
thing, forgetting about that and
then being reminded of it, I

993
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,440
think it's going to be a
rallying cry for this team.

994
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,520
And I do think they go down to
Durham.

995
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:40,920
I think they take care of
business.

996
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,640
And I'm agreeing with Shelton on
here.

997
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,520
I think this is going to be the
first time in two in two years.

998
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,080
I think it's two years to the
day if somebody gives that

999
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,240
because it's it's damn close if
it's not.

1000
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,080
The math is mashing.
It's going to be within a couple

1001
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:53,920
days if.
It's not.

1002
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:59,240
It's the same week, two years to
the day Hokies take this 1/28/20

1003
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:02,840
Effectively that is A1 score
game.

1004
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,720
Technically, that's a one score
game.

1005
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,520
Pride, pride gets off on the
hook 2820.

1006
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,680
Hope he's come back.
Gabe Williams rally cry and

1007
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,600
letting some of these young guys
eat.

1008
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:17,600
So there we go.
There are our predictions.

1009
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,520
Got a few people throwing them
here.

1010
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,400
Got Steven and we'll throw you
up here.

1011
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:28,080
There we go, Josh, Saying that
I'd love to see some other

1012
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,680
predictions as we get up here,
as we move on.

1013
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,160
And as everybody knows, by the
way, y'all know, we got

1014
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,400
back-to-back 8:00 games.
We do.

1015
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,080
They just made the announcement
well yesterday about the UN

1016
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,760
feel.
About that, I don't know how I

1017
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,840
feel about that.
I'm gonna be nervous.

1018
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,960
I'm gonna be nervous all day.
Nervous all day?

1019
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:52,920
Yeah, all day.
Like I said, I can enjoy it like

1020
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,800
the nerves getting married me.
As you all know, we are brought

1021
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,080
to you by the Count Stanley
Pharmacy, your friendly

1022
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,040
neighborhood pharmacy, Three O 1
S Main St. in Blacksburg.

1023
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,720
He leads.
It's in every Tuesday night when

1024
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,760
we're here.
So normally we do know the enemy

1025
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,120
would get over to big screens.
We talk about the games.

1026
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,280
But since we've been a lot of
pissed off the last few weeks,

1027
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,160
we really haven't had a chance
to talk about some other

1028
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:22,480
dealings in college football,
primarily College Football

1029
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,640
Playoff.
And I know that's going to be a

1030
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,440
sore subject for some people,
but still, I still love college

1031
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,760
football.
I still watch college football.

1032
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,680
Even though when I'm pissed on
Saturday nights and I'm

1033
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:37,360
listening to tally ran on a on a
space occasionally, I'm usually

1034
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,000
still watching football and I
have all my screens up here.

1035
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,200
It's just what I do.
So we wanted to talk about it.

1036
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,960
And here's the first thing I
wanted to bring up to all three

1037
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:50,480
of y'all.
There were certain media members

1038
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:55,280
that swore to God this is going
to make games matter less.

1039
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,080
People aren't going to care as
much.

1040
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,360
Well, first of all, I think
they're wrong.

1041
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,720
But what about y'all?
How are y'all feel?

1042
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,720
Do you feel because of the
playoff that it makes games

1043
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,920
matter less?
No, I don't.

1044
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,800
I definitely don't think it
matters less.

1045
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,520
I think people are tuned in
every week like they always have

1046
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:19,440
been and I feel like the college
playoffs along with the transfer

1047
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:24,080
portal brings in some chaos.
You know kind of what college

1048
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,120
football needed because we were
getting to the point where you

1049
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:32,400
feel like this team, team mate,
team B, team C and Team B are

1050
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,240
going to be at the finish line
every year.

1051
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,560
Occasionally you had you flip
flop a couple of them, but that

1052
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:44,680
top six teams to 8 teams, you
thought that's all we'll see at

1053
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,120
the end of the year and there's
no way for anybody to catch up

1054
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,120
with them.
Well, this year you got people

1055
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:53,560
watching teams like BYU or
Colorado.

1056
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:57,560
You know, you got team, you got,
you got SMU, you got people

1057
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:04,480
watching other teams as a, as a
collective to see if this team

1058
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,880
makes it, will they pair up with
them if this team pairs up with

1059
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:10,280
a?
Blank.

1060
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,920
How does that look?
So no, I don't think it makes

1061
01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,320
it, you know, less meaningful.
I think it makes it more

1062
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:21,080
enjoyable for somebody like us.
It fucking sucks sometimes.

1063
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,440
But as a college football fan, I
think it may.

1064
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,240
I think it, I think, I think
it's done what it's supposed to

1065
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,560
do.
Sheldon, you were in agreement

1066
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,560
with Tyler.
I can see you shaking your head.

1067
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,680
Why do you feel this way?
Well, I, I just think it's, it's

1068
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,120
at a lot more excitement.
It makes it so that you know, if

1069
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,080
you lose one or two games, maybe
in three, your season isn't

1070
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,080
over.
You can still compete for a

1071
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,200
conference title.
You can still compete for in

1072
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,040
that large bid.
I would say for me, I, I get

1073
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,760
kind of annoyed by the anti
playoff discourse because you

1074
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,960
know, I I'm someone who grew up
watching FCS football and the

1075
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,720
FCS.
Playoffs is like. 2014 So for me

1076
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,240
it was always like, well, how is
it that that the FCS can have an

1077
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,240
expanded playoffs, D2 can have
playoffs, D3 can have playoffs,

1078
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,600
but the FBS shouldn't have
playoffs.

1079
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:03,840
Like it just doesn't make any
sense to me.

1080
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,880
So I, I think I think having the
12th team playoff wasn't

1081
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,840
necessary expansion.
You know, it'll probably expand

1082
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,200
more in the future, but I just
think having it at 4 was just so

1083
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,960
limited.
There was only a handful of

1084
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,120
teams that realistically,
realistically could compete for

1085
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:17,800
a title.
And I also think it may

1086
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,480
recruiting a little bit more
concentrated at the top because

1087
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,320
you know that there's, you know,
if recruits, you know, know that

1088
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:24,960
the only four teams can play for
a title.

1089
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,120
It's more likely you want to
play for a big school and and Al

1090
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:29,440
as well.
I mean, guys get paid so you can

1091
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,320
go to different schools,
transfer portal, you can leave

1092
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,120
them everyone.
I think there's been a lot more,

1093
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,000
a lot more competitive balance.
Yeah, you you went from having,

1094
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:41,760
you know, 6 to 10 teams in play
for the major recruits because

1095
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,440
those are the teams that had a
realistic shot at competing for

1096
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,480
that four team playoff.
Now you got 12 spots.

1097
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:54,000
You've got really probably 20 to
25 teams that at any point in

1098
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:55,480
the season had a legitimate
shot.

1099
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:57,280
So you're you're spreading that
wealth around.

1100
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:02,160
I mean, and I agree, but I'm
saying minimum 252025.

1101
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,560
So you're, you're spreading that
out a little bit.

1102
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:10,160
And when, when you look at what
we have here, I, I, I just, I

1103
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,160
love this because I mean, when
we look at just the SEC, right?

1104
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,840
So how many times have we put
Vandy on a big Screener?

1105
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,400
Because they're, they're kind of
playing upset dog at the SEC

1106
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,200
this whole damn year.
And they're giving every team

1107
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,400
that has a number next to their,
their, their name a run for

1108
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,240
their damn money week in, week
out until they ran up against

1109
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,520
South Carolina.
And that was the first team that

1110
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:38,400
I've seen really put Vanderbilt
away in a this whole season, you

1111
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,600
know, one way or the other,
right?

1112
01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,040
They definitely kind of been a
team that's played to their

1113
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:44,720
competition throughout the
season.

1114
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,520
But it it's making those games
interesting because you you've

1115
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,200
got these teams that have played
well, that can play spoiler.

1116
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,360
You've got so many other.
It's like, it's like poker,

1117
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:58,480
right?
You got a lot more outs when

1118
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,720
when you're looking at this.
So there's a there's a lot more

1119
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,080
of a domino effect with a loss
and there's a lot more of a

1120
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,600
domino effect putting yourself
back into contention with a

1121
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,080
really good win.
So it's it's making games more

1122
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,840
interesting in November and it's
making more games more

1123
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,920
interesting in November and not
just those handful that are

1124
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,840
taking place in one or two
conferences where the the

1125
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,680
conference championship is still
undecided.

1126
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,080
I know what else I think, go
ahead, Curtis, go ahead.

1127
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:27,800
I'm going to say this and I'll
get it back to you, Tally.

1128
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,280
We have picked six games this
week for big screeners.

1129
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,440
Every single one of the games we
have has playoff implications.

1130
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:39,480
Every single game.
And there's more.

1131
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,320
Their games we didn't pick that
have implications.

1132
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:45,040
Go ahead, Tally.
I was just going to say 2 and it

1133
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:49,560
comes down to kind of what you
want it to be about is the

1134
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:50,840
players.
You know what I'm saying?

1135
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:57,160
Like when you look at a player
like Gente, right?

1136
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,560
So I've heard more high school
students talk about him this

1137
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,000
year.
Of course, he's having a great

1138
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:06,960
year.
But when you have a committee

1139
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,360
that looks at a team, it's kind
of like what they do with the

1140
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,960
the March Madness.
If a player is hot and his team

1141
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,880
is starting to get hot, you kind
of want them to be in that

1142
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,640
playoff discussion because
that's going to bring views, you

1143
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,640
know what I'm saying?
So for the players to be able to

1144
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:32,320
put their skills on display,
it's a possibility to get them

1145
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,880
to the next level, which is the
playoffs.

1146
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:39,200
So I've absolutely loved what it
is to have the expansion.

1147
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,480
And I'm kind of like Sheldon
said, I mean, when you look at

1148
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:47,360
D2D3, even go into high school,
then you go into pro, like

1149
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:50,560
there's been a playoff.
So this wasn't a foreign thing.

1150
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,720
Everybody who's a football fan
grew up with it.

1151
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,360
And then when you got here, you
just accept it.

1152
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,520
This is the teams that we want
to see.

1153
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,160
This is the teams that you
should watch.

1154
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:01,560
No, we want to watch some of
them.

1155
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,680
Other teams too.
We want to see can, you know,

1156
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,080
the the underdog beat the beat
the, you know, the top dog.

1157
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:13,160
So exciting, exciting man.
All right, I'm I'm going to do a

1158
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,560
couple things here because I'm
the one that wrote the question.

1159
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,200
All the media said it wouldn't
matter.

1160
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,720
They're fucking wrong.
And I love it because now they

1161
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:24,520
got to go back and somehow turn
back around and say, well, and

1162
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,760
no, you were wrong right Now, do
you all know how many teams that

1163
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:32,000
have at least a chance to make
the playoff?

1164
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:36,360
Just just guess how many teams
that they're mathematically

1165
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:40,200
saying are not eliminated yet.
32.

1166
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,920
Not that many.
That 32 was probably last

1167
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,000
weekend.
Yeah, it's 23.

1168
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,440
There are 20.
Three teams that can still make

1169
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,160
the playoff.
This is the next to last week of

1170
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,440
the regular season and there's
23 teams that can make the

1171
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,480
playoff.
And and I'm going to come from a

1172
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,480
Hokies perspective because as we
rolled into November, y'all, we

1173
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:02,400
were like, listen, we just keep
winning.

1174
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,800
You just keep winning games and
you just get to Charlotte right

1175
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:07,400
now.
That's why we're probably more

1176
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,160
pissed off because we go lose to
Syracuse and it's like that

1177
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,680
irritated you and it's like,
well, now more shit's got to

1178
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,120
happen.
But but think about this for all

1179
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,960
of us, not the best season,
right?

1180
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:23,440
Five years ago, well, maybe we
win the ACC, but we ain't going

1181
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,600
to playoff.
We ain't got no chance to win a

1182
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,760
national title.
And I know some people will say,

1183
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:29,600
well, nobody has a chance to win
this little title.

1184
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,040
Hush about that.
But at the beginning of

1185
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:38,680
November, we literally sat here
and said if we can just win, we

1186
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,040
have a chance.
That's all you got to do.

1187
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:42,920
You just got to give people
hope.

1188
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,840
And there's still 23 teams that
have hope out there.

1189
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,960
And I'm hoping in the near
future we're one of those 23

1190
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:51,880
teams at this late in the season
where it's just like, keep

1191
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:56,520
winning, get to Charlotte, get
in Shelton.

1192
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,960
You have something you want to
discuss that kind of piqued your

1193
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,240
interest.
So I'm going to let you kind of

1194
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:03,720
leave this next little section
here.

1195
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:08,040
Yeah, so we obviously, you know,
if you're on Twitter chronically

1196
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,960
like me, I saw a lot of
discourse about the SEC.

1197
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,960
Some people, it seems like a lot
of the media, the media people

1198
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,400
are, are trying to hype up the
SEC that are pro SEC.

1199
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,240
And that's led to some
inevitable pushback because

1200
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,560
people are saying, well, you
know, why should an undefeated

1201
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,520
or 1 less Indiana team be left
out of playoffs in favor of, you

1202
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:28,720
know, 3 or 4 SEC teams?
And there's been kind of a back

1203
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,880
and forth.
I will say I, I I see a lot of

1204
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,440
people really misinterpreting
stats and kind of making some

1205
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,160
bad arguments.
As much as we'd like to show in

1206
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:41,360
the SEC, and believe me it is
fun, they have objectively been

1207
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,000
the best conference this year in
football by almost any metric,

1208
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,360
like advanced metrics.
They have the best win

1209
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:47,880
percentage overall in non
conference.

1210
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:49,520
They've got the best win
percentage against power four

1211
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:54,000
teams.
So I do, I do think two things

1212
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,480
can be true at one time.
I think the SEC can be the best

1213
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,800
conference in football, but we
don't need to hype it up too

1214
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:01,680
much and it needs to be a case
by case basis.

1215
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,800
I don't think Indiana, if they
finish eleven and one and don't

1216
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,680
make the the big 10 championship
game, there's no reason they

1217
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,720
should be left out, especially
with how good their their

1218
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,400
metrics are.
I know they played a bad

1219
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,560
schedule, but they've still got
a a few decent wins and at some

1220
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,400
point like the games have to
matter on the field.

1221
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,200
So I just wanted to kind of get
that, get that off my chest.

1222
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:19,640
Yeah.
I mean, you got to look at

1223
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,359
strength of schedule, but you
also have to look at, like you

1224
01:08:22,359 --> 01:08:24,160
said, the games and also the
losses.

1225
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:27,880
Like, you know, if losses still
have to matter, and we had this

1226
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,720
discussion last year, we're
having it again this year.

1227
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,359
You still need to have take into
account the games that are

1228
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:37,800
played on the field, who won,
who lost, what are the common

1229
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,560
opponents.
You got to still look at those

1230
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:44,880
things as well as just the raw
strength of schedule and and

1231
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:46,960
whatever metrics are are feeding
into that.

1232
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:52,120
So I'm I'm, I'm with you, I do.
I definitely think the SEC is

1233
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:56,359
the strongest conference out
there, but I don't think it is

1234
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:01,560
this head and shoulders monster,
especially compared to a big 10.

1235
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,080
But even more so, I think, you
know, they're, they're still on

1236
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:09,200
the, you know, not, not a, a big
jump from, you know, a Big 12

1237
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:10,399
that's having a pretty good
year.

1238
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:13,960
And you know, you look at an SMU
that's that's, that's played

1239
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,319
some really good football as
well.

1240
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:17,359
So I mean, there's a, there's a
lot of opportunities out there

1241
01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:20,160
for these teams that I think
compared to getting, you know,

1242
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:23,560
four, in some cases five teams
from the SEC in this thing.

1243
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,880
Cal, you got anything you want
to say on this or I go off?

1244
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,800
No, man, I'm good.
I'm gonna pass it on to you.

1245
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,279
He's gonna pass it on to me.
He don't want to because they,

1246
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:36,200
because they know where he works
at down there, y'all?

1247
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,200
That's why he's got to keep it
quiet sometimes.

1248
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,560
I agree the SEC is the best
conference, but I keep going and

1249
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,399
this is what I'll always say.
Wins and losses have to matter.

1250
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,200
Well, you know, they're a great
three loss team.

1251
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:54,000
It's like they lost three games.
They lost 1/4 of their schedule.

1252
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:58,600
That has to matter.
I don't care what's tough.

1253
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:00,400
There's some tough loss.
I don't get shit.

1254
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:06,080
You lost, I don't care.
Losing games happens, it

1255
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,880
continuously happens.
It tells some about your team

1256
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:10,640
regardless of competition or
not.

1257
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,840
Like right now the discussions
Ole Miss is currently in, Ole

1258
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:19,360
Miss likely LSU is not.
Is it probably an average team?

1259
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:23,280
I'm sure Sheldon could pull up
the data and Kentucky is a below

1260
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:28,240
average team and they lost at
home and on the road to those

1261
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,040
teams.
So why are they considered a

1262
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,360
temple?
They beat Georgia, so they're

1263
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:40,320
one win overcomes 2 not so great
losses, like it wasn't a great

1264
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,280
loss like right, No losses have
to matter.

1265
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:48,000
And by all means, if you want
you want to see like somebody

1266
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:54,400
like me catch hell, let Indiana
get left out at 11 and one

1267
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,400
Robbie's putting on there.
He thinks there there's going to

1268
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,760
be a three loss SCC team that
gets left that gets put in over

1269
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:01,040
them.
So that's where you let's.

1270
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,640
Let's say this and I'll and
I'll, I'll, I'll let you finish

1271
01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,920
if you need to finish there,
Curtis.

1272
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,120
But go ahead.
Let let's let's tell you where

1273
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,080
I'm at.
So let's pretend that we we

1274
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:15,160
reset the last two last three
weeks, right?

1275
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,160
We go back to pre Syracuse, we
go up to Syracuse.

1276
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:20,440
We take care of business, we
take care of Clemson at home.

1277
01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:22,400
We run the table against Duke
and UVA.

1278
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:25,640
We're sitting at 3 losses.
We're going to Charlotte because

1279
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:27,960
things fell the way they needed
to fall for us to go there.

1280
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:34,400
I as a hokey fan would say if we
don't win this fucking game in

1281
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,800
Charlotte, we do not belong in
this mother fucker.

1282
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,400
No, I'm with you on that 100%
there's.

1283
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,760
There's teams with a similar
win, loss and and and strength

1284
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:49,560
of loss as a Vandy loss, a Miami
loss and a Rutgers loss that

1285
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,440
people are putting in this
conversation.

1286
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:54,640
So that that's where my problem
was.

1287
01:11:55,440 --> 01:11:57,160
There you go.
So yeah, that's where I am

1288
01:11:57,440 --> 01:11:59,520
again.
I do think the SEC is the best

1289
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,840
conference.
I think 4 is their number.

1290
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,680
I think 5 would be one too many
in this case.

1291
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:09,840
All right, I know some of y'all
got to see it, Some of y'all

1292
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,560
didn't.
They did release the playoff

1293
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:17,240
standings and here are the four
first game matchups.

1294
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:20,840
If it were to happen today, I
want to know which one intrigues

1295
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,080
you the most.
Everybody listen up.

1296
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,600
So the first game we've got BYU
traveling to the Horseshoe,

1297
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:33,480
playing Ohio State, Georgia, and
the Penn State Happy Valley in

1298
01:12:33,480 --> 01:12:39,200
the middle of December, where
the high is 36�� as a average.

1299
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:43,400
Alabama would head to Notre
Dame, also another state where

1300
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:47,560
the high is 35��, and then
oldmouth to Indiana, similar.

1301
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,760
Which of those game intrigues
you?

1302
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:56,480
Whoever wants to start.
I mean, I'll, I'll start Georgia

1303
01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:02,400
going to Penn State for a a
night game whiteout in December.

1304
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,960
Like 8��.
Yeah, that, that that to me

1305
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,720
would be a very intriguing
matchup.

1306
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,000
So yeah, count me, Count me in
favor of that one.

1307
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,440
Tally What about you?
Yeah, it's kind of, you know,

1308
01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:21,320
that game, of course, just
because I think just me

1309
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,160
watching, I think Georgia's the
best team.

1310
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,520
I think they can beat anybody
but Alabama.

1311
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:31,360
But you put in those conditions,
you know, and things do change a

1312
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,880
little bit.
But also you talk about like

1313
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:38,600
Obama, Notre Dame matchup, you
know, like just a historical

1314
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:44,280
piece of it.
I think last time they played we

1315
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:48,160
had a fake girlfriend and all
that type of stuff.

1316
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,760
So 12 years ago, yeah.
Yeah, things like that, man.

1317
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,240
And all the.
And I tell you, shout out.

1318
01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:57,000
Yeah, man, when you got all that
kind of stuff, looking at it, it

1319
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,960
it's it's very intriguing.
But I mean, the Georgia, the

1320
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:06,520
Georgia and and Penn State is
probably the most intriguing to

1321
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,720
me just because of how I feel
about Georgia's team.

1322
01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:16,200
What about you, Shelton?
Yeah, I feel like Georgia

1323
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,760
playing PSC would also be like a
a fever dream.

1324
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,400
Just doesn't feel just kind of
feels weird.

1325
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,880
But I don't know, I mean,
looking at it, I would say

1326
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,320
that's probably the the most
hypothetically intriguing

1327
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:34,240
matchup I saw.
Well, it's not a question that

1328
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:36,560
Boise State could get a buy, in
which case they play the winner

1329
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:41,440
of BYU Ohio State, which would
be also kind of crazy.

1330
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:44,480
So I don't know, man, I, I, I'm
just, I like that there's a, a

1331
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:48,160
competitive balance of teams
like BYU has, you know, a good

1332
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:52,000
shot and, and Boise and all
these teams, Indiana, like, I

1333
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:54,400
mean, I'm something like, you
know, interesting matchups.

1334
01:14:54,440 --> 01:14:57,000
I like teams that haven't played
each other historically, teams

1335
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,080
that don't make sense
geographically, teams that maybe

1336
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:01,320
aren't historically a great
program, just kind of throwing

1337
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,600
them all together in this big,
big pot and just, you know,

1338
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,160
seeing what all the crazies that
happened.

1339
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,160
So I'm going to be, I'm going to
be entertained by the way.

1340
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,240
Yeah, that's going to be the
best part of it is.

1341
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:13,960
Robbie thinks Indiana or paper
Tigers man.

1342
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:15,920
Put up what?
What?

1343
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,880
What, Jim said.
James Gilmore put up there.

1344
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:19,200
You put it up there a few
minutes ago.

1345
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:22,680
Them boys from Ole Miss going to
be stuck to the bleachers.

1346
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,480
They ain't going to know how to
move in like 7�� weather.

1347
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,440
That's that's one of the big
things people aren't taking into

1348
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:32,520
account is when if a if a
southern team Callie mentioned

1349
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:37,920
in in the state of Alabama, it's
in the 50s in in the middle of

1350
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,560
December.
It's nice not game of Notre

1351
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,040
Dame.
It's like 8��.

1352
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,000
There's kids that ain't never
seen below 40�� in that place.

1353
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:50,840
But for me, Brian, let it off.
It would be Georgia at Penn

1354
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,920
State, because I think that
would be an A the scene would be

1355
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:59,160
unbelievable and to be for real.
I think like you said, tally

1356
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,720
Georgia is one of it's probably
the best team.

1357
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:06,840
I think they're the only to me,
they're the absolutely the only

1358
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,440
deserving two loss SCT men.
You can like they they're

1359
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:11,920
deserve to be in.
They deserve to be in over

1360
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,600
anybody else.
But I think with that said,

1361
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,640
everybody still shitting on Penn
State, Penn State does a couple

1362
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,000
different things in the red
zone.

1363
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,240
They beat Ohio State.
It's not like that.

1364
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:28,680
That gap was so far.
Like it wasn't like it was a 28,

1365
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:31,280
seven game.
It was literally a touchdown

1366
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,760
game that game.
So I think that's the most

1367
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,360
intriguing.
Obviously this is going to

1368
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,560
change.
Obviously when it does, we will

1369
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,920
be talking about it a little bit
more.

1370
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,600
I think it's been decided.
I think is everybody pretty much

1371
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:49,800
of the first eight, first four
teams, Georgia right now is the

1372
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:50,800
one that can make the run.
I.

1373
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,600
Don't think so.
It's, it's either Georgia or

1374
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:58,800
Ohio State.
I, I don't really trust any of

1375
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:03,160
the other ones with any with any
great confidence.

1376
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,560
You know, the, the only thing
I'd say is that, you know, when

1377
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,960
you look at Georgia, you know,
right now they're going to

1378
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,240
probably be on the road unless
things change in the next, you

1379
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:18,120
know, three weeks.
But that's really the only thing

1380
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,600
that's probably handicapped in
them week 1 is, is having to be

1381
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,280
on the road versus the other.
The other teams that are

1382
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,120
probably in that discussion are
playing at home.

1383
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,240
I'll actually go.
I'll go out-of-the-box.

1384
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,440
I'm actually kind of a Georgia
skeptic just because their

1385
01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:34,360
offense has been kind of so
schizophrenic.

1386
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,440
I am actually a big believer in
Ole Miss.

1387
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:39,480
I know that people cannot sleep
on them because they, they lost

1388
01:17:39,480 --> 01:17:43,560
two games, but metrically they
have been pretty much a top five

1389
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,840
team in the country this year.
You know, it's just those two

1390
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:49,600
losses to Kentucky by three and
then LSU by three.

1391
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,120
Other than that, they have
pretty much wiped the wiped the

1392
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:53,800
floor with everyone.
So I, I think people are really

1393
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:54,920
sleeping on them.
I think they're a really good

1394
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,920
team.
They forgot to play offense for

1395
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,000
two weeks and.
They didn't earn them and it

1396
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,960
cost them and it cost them big
time, big time.

1397
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:05,160
By the way, everybody is like
you said, Ohio State, Brian,

1398
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,880
that would be the scariest game.
And I think the 512 is going to

1399
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,400
be the scariest game because if
you're the 12 C, what do you

1400
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,360
have to lose?
Like Kalani Sataki, if y'all

1401
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,080
ever watched him Coach B, he
already does some funky things

1402
01:18:18,440 --> 01:18:20,360
in games.
Yeah, I mean.

1403
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:22,800
You so tell you know what I'm
talking about.

1404
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,640
He will throw curveballs.
If you're a 12 and like you got

1405
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,120
to go high state, you ain't got
a shot.

1406
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,440
Like we going to pull out every
trick in the book.

1407
01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:32,280
We're going to do funky stuff
all night.

1408
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,760
Why not?
Why not?

1409
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:39,120
And I think the year at 12 beats
A5 and maybe that's the first

1410
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:40,320
year.
It's going to be one of those

1411
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:44,560
things where we told y'all for
years, settle it on the field

1412
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:47,960
with the damn Paper Tiger
rankings because Brian Siegler

1413
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:52,560
loves pre rankings.
All righty, let's move on.

1414
01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,880
And we are going to get to our
big screeners pick.

1415
01:18:55,880 --> 01:19:02,120
Like I said earlier, every
single game we have selected has

1416
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,520
massive implications on the
playoffs.

1417
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:09,960
Some are elimination games, some
are effectively I'm trying to

1418
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:14,160
look at 1 here.
One of those games could be

1419
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,000
played for a potential buy
depending on what happened.

1420
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:21,040
So let's go to it.
Brian Siegel, start us off Where

1421
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:26,840
are we going?
We're going to Notre Dame, baby.

1422
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,760
We're going to South Bend.
No, you're not.

1423
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,320
This game's in the Bronx.
This game is in the Bronx,

1424
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:35,320
You're right.
This game is in the Bronx.

1425
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:40,600
I forgot about this.
So I like my pick even better

1426
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:50,240
than because Notre Dame's
getting 14 points here and that

1427
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:51,320
seems like just a little too
much.

1428
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,920
I like what Arby's been doing
this year, so I'm taking Army

1429
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,040
here.
I think Notre Dame will win this

1430
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,040
game, but it's not going to be
by two touchdowns.

1431
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:02,400
Yeah, I'm with you.
Being in the Bronx, night game

1432
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,720
start, 7:00.
Yankee Stadium. 14 is just too

1433
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,920
big a number to lay the way
Army's been playing.

1434
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,720
If this had been like 10, I'd
take Notre Dame because I think

1435
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,240
that's what they wanted by like
3121.

1436
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,560
But give me Army as well.
I think, I think Navy's due for

1437
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,520
a big time cover.
Excuse me, Notre Dame, sorry.

1438
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:25,440
I think, I think they'll cover
pretty easily.

1439
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,320
They typically do pretty well at
the service academies and I

1440
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:29,800
don't think this will be an
exception today.

1441
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,560
Same.
Notre Dame, give them to me.

1442
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:39,560
He said give them to him.
Miranda is going with us and

1443
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:44,360
Jason is going with us.
So there we go.

1444
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,080
Big playoff implications, why
Notre Dame wins out.

1445
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:54,200
Notre Dame's in Army this.
If they get this victory, it

1446
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,600
could propel them potentially to
be in right there and all they

1447
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:01,120
need is a Boise State slip up, a
Boise State slip up and they're

1448
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:04,800
in.
So there that is, I got the next

1449
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,440
one.
I got the big game of the week.

1450
01:21:06,440 --> 01:21:11,400
I got #2 versus #5 Indiana goes
and visits the Horseshoe, the

1451
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,360
biggest game in Indiana football
history.

1452
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:21,640
There is not even a single doubt
in my mind about this and they

1453
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:25,800
are getting 13 1/2 points versus
Ohio State.

1454
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:31,600
I know Indiana does not have as
much talent as Ohio State, I

1455
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:35,080
know that.
But when it's 13 1/2 points in

1456
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,960
every good team that has come
across Ohio State this year,

1457
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,120
they ain't exactly beat shit out
of them.

1458
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:46,680
So I think 13 1/2 is too big.
I think Ohio State wins.

1459
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,200
I think it's a hell of a lot
closer than 13 1/2.

1460
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:55,520
I am taking Indiana to cover.
Yep, I'm riding with you there.

1461
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:02,200
You know it's it's 13 1/2.
If you, if you gave me even 10

1462
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:08,640
1/2, I might would have taken
it, but the 13 1/2 that I can

1463
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:12,480
see this being a 13 pointer when
it's all said and done.

1464
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,120
I know we got Robbie in here.
Robbie is definitely thinks that

1465
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:19,000
IU is a big, big paper tiger
right now.

1466
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,920
I, I don't, I don't, I don't
feel that quite that way.

1467
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,000
I definitely think they're
probably a little inflated

1468
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:31,240
relative to where their talent
level is, but I think they're

1469
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,280
going to keep it close enough in
this one.

1470
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,240
So I'll, I'll take the Hoosiers.
Sheldon.

1471
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,560
Yeah, I'm taking the Buckeyes.
I think this is what I call a

1472
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,720
worst case scenario game for
Indiana.

1473
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,160
I think they're going to get
destroyed and that's going to

1474
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,200
start the discourse about if
they should be in the playoff or

1475
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,080
not.
So I could be hilariously wrong,

1476
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:50,440
but I think that's how it's
going to play out.

1477
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,640
Tally yeah, I'm going to go
Indiana on this one.

1478
01:22:56,400 --> 01:23:00,080
I think that Ohio State wins,
but I think that Indiana will

1479
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,160
cover.
It's just too big a number.

1480
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:07,360
Miranda's riding with with
Sheldon, and so is Jason.

1481
01:23:07,480 --> 01:23:10,520
Split house on this one, it's
just to me, it's just too big.

1482
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,880
And I've seen Indiana score.
I've seen him in some low fights

1483
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,600
as well.
Yeah.

1484
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:25,320
All righty, Shelton.
Let's go.

1485
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,000
This is this is going to be a
cool game.

1486
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,520
So I think Arizona State is a
program that people aren't

1487
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,800
really talking a lot about this
year.

1488
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,600
They've had a great season, 8
and two kind of out of nowhere.

1489
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,240
But so too is BYU.
So match of two really

1490
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,000
interesting Big 12 teams.
I will take the Cougars to cover

1491
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:44,520
-3.5.
Ron.

1492
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,440
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm with BYU
here as well.

1493
01:23:48,440 --> 01:23:49,960
I think they're going to go and
handle business.

1494
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,920
It's really going to put them a
very good place playoff wise.

1495
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:55,560
So I think they're going to go
out there and take care of

1496
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,720
business.
And that's despite ASU really

1497
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:01,600
having been putting together a a
very unlikely season even

1498
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,640
relative to to BYU.
I think BYU we thought was going

1499
01:24:04,640 --> 01:24:09,000
to at least be a factor.
I think ASU just kind of came

1500
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,680
out of nowhere.
ASU comes out of nowhere,

1501
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:18,560
unranked in the playoff, 8 and
two, BYU coming off a big loss

1502
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:23,360
to a surging Kansas team.
But ASU coming off, I mean, we

1503
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:26,440
all got a bunch of us got the
ASU game wrong last week with

1504
01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:29,480
Kansas State.
Brian, I'll let you find that

1505
01:24:29,480 --> 01:24:32,440
for me.
I'm with me and me and me and

1506
01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:37,400
Josh are together on this one.
Put that up here, that up here.

1507
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,040
Which one?
The storm and Mormons to cover

1508
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:42,480
because they're going to win the
game outright.

1509
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,400
Yeah, I believe BYU too.
You know, big loss last week.

1510
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,480
I mean, most of their players
are probably 32 years old.

1511
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:58,320
And just like us, when you go to
work, something bad happens one

1512
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:01,000
day at work.
You just, you just go back the

1513
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,840
next day and do your job.
You know, they they grown man.

1514
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,360
They got to go home and put the
kids to bed.

1515
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,240
They ain't going, you know, they
ain't going to get all upset

1516
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:11,400
about it.
They're just going to come on

1517
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,560
back to next week and make
something happen.

1518
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:18,960
So BYU.
Yeah, Miranda's riding with BYU

1519
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,680
and Jason is the only one we.
Got to be difficult.

1520
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,200
Yeah, he's the only.
One hanging there with with

1521
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:32,000
Arizona State.
By the way, if y'all didn't know

1522
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,960
Robbie was here picking last
week, probably win O 1/6.

1523
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,600
Shell, That might not bode well
for that Ohio State pick.

1524
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:45,480
Exactly.
All right, let's move on.

1525
01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:48,080
Jonathan Talley, what is your
game, my friend?

1526
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:56,040
My game is SMU versus UVA.
The reason I picked this game is

1527
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,760
because again, SMU is in the
hunt right now.

1528
01:26:00,440 --> 01:26:05,440
And I mean Virginia's in the
hunt as well.

1529
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:09,000
They're trying to figure out if
they're going to come to Lane

1530
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,080
Stadium and win and get into a
bowl game.

1531
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:15,000
So it's going to be pretty
interesting to watch watch this

1532
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,040
game.
But I'm taking SMU because I

1533
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,040
think SMU is going to beat the
dog shit out of them.

1534
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:23,000
I don't even, I don't even think
Virginia cares for real.

1535
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:26,320
I think that they're just
focused on if we get to Lane and

1536
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:29,480
we beat them because they're
down, then we'll go to a bowl

1537
01:26:29,480 --> 01:26:31,520
and whatever we'll sport that
season.

1538
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,240
Yeah, I mean, we're, we're,
we're hearing things like, you

1539
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,840
know, Calandria has been running
the locker room and all this

1540
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:41,360
stuff.
And I'm, I'm not, I'm not really

1541
01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:45,400
sold on what, what UVA is, is
doing down the stretch here.

1542
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,200
I think you're right, Tally.
I think they are pretty much

1543
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:50,760
playing for the the Hokey Bowl
at this point.

1544
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,560
So I'm taking SMUI think they're
going to roll.

1545
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:55,680
I don't think it's going to be
close.

1546
01:26:55,680 --> 01:27:00,080
I think it could be 3 scores.
Oh yeah, I'm, I'm with you.

1547
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,920
This is SMU kind of had a
struggle against Boston College.

1548
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,960
I watched a lot of that game.
And and.

1549
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,960
Like we played Boston College,
they had those moments against

1550
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,360
us, they had good moments
against SMU and I think they're

1551
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:13,400
going to beat the dog shit out
of them.

1552
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:17,280
I think this is going to be a
get right game for SMU as they

1553
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,200
kind of get into the end of the
season and net it towards the

1554
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:24,040
ACC Championship game.
Yeah I agree, I just don't like

1555
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:26,600
to advise with UVA right now and
I do think they're going to be

1556
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,600
overlooking SMU in favor of tech
next week.

1557
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:34,560
So SMU big.
Miranda, Miranda and Jason are

1558
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:36,680
riding across.
Look at the Little Pony.

1559
01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:38,720
Go across the thing there.
Look at that.

1560
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:44,080
We're colonial downs, man.
We're Colonial Downs all righty

1561
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:47,480
so here we go.
We got Miss Miranda.

1562
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:53,120
I almost picked this game
because what Florida did beaten

1563
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:58,440
LSU a they got hope again there
because they lost LSU and

1564
01:27:58,440 --> 01:28:00,680
they're like we'll bring Bill
and Napier back and like he just

1565
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,920
fucking lost another game fire
his ass.

1566
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,280
But this is big for Ole Miss.
We've already discussed Ole Miss

1567
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:11,600
of all the two lost teams, they
have the most 2 unimpressive

1568
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:14,000
losses.
If they go down to the swamp,

1569
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,960
lose this game, there should be
absolutely no discussion.

1570
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:19,880
I don't give a shit if they beat
Georgia.

1571
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:25,320
That would be 3 losses.
Yeah, but anyway, Ole Miss,

1572
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,160
Florida's getting 10 1/2.
Brian, what are you thinking?

1573
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,320
I'm going Ole Miss here.
I think this is going to be at

1574
01:28:31,320 --> 01:28:34,320
least a 2 touchdown victory for
the Rebels there.

1575
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,000
I I really don't like what I've
seen out of Florida.

1576
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:39,720
I know they've had a couple
games where they've looked a

1577
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:43,760
little better than they did kind
of the start of the year, but I

1578
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:48,040
think it's still a very middling
team and and a team that really

1579
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:49,680
struggles to kind of put four
quarters together.

1580
01:28:49,680 --> 01:28:50,920
So I'm going to take Ole Miss in
this one.

1581
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,840
I'm taking Ole Miss too because
much like what UVA is doing for

1582
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:59,360
SMU, Florida is licking their
chops at play in Florida State

1583
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,080
next week because they know
they're going to get to a bowl

1584
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,680
and they go absolutely beat the
dog shit out of Florida State.

1585
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,320
Ole Miss wins by 17.
They keep the playoff folks

1586
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,280
alive.
I think Florida's going to be in

1587
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:12,400
for a big time hangover, so I
got Ole Miss.

1588
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:20,080
Give me all Miss Wayne gone.
Do what he do, stay in his lane.

1589
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:26,080
Hey, back-to-back, back-to-back
across the board.

1590
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,280
Across the board and see where
we're wrong.

1591
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:34,280
All right, the one more game
from the Music Man.

1592
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:38,960
He is traveling to Lawrence,
where the Colorado Buffaloes are

1593
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:59,520
playing the Kansas Jayhawks.
Buffalo Soldier Drilling Rasta,

1594
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:08,440
who bought the Buffalo Soldier
in the heart of America storm

1595
01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:12,760
from Africa and brought to
America.

1596
01:30:25,440 --> 01:30:38,560
Yeah.
Hey, welcome back to another

1597
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:41,000
week of guitar licks and
gambling picks.

1598
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:44,160
I'm Jason Long.
Now for today I'm going all the

1599
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,840
way back to my week one pick,
which was of course the

1600
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,040
Buffaloes of the University of
Colorado.

1601
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:50,800
Now how's their season been
going?

1602
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,520
Pretty good.
They probably hit it to the Big

1603
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,720
12 championship game, maybe the
College Football Playoffs.

1604
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:59,680
Chador's probably going to be
the number one pick in this

1605
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:02,520
year's NFL draft.
Travis Hunter's looking like the

1606
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:06,440
Heisman winner, and Coach Prime
might even be headed to Dallas.

1607
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:10,400
More on that in a moment.
Now this week, Colorado's hit it

1608
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,680
to Kansas to take on The
Jayhawks.

1609
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,400
And Kansas did have a big win
this past weekend, but so did

1610
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,320
Colorado.
And Colorado is currently only

1611
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,920
laying 2 1/2 points against
Kansas.

1612
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:26,160
So I'm going to take Colorado -2
1/2 versus The Jayhawks on

1613
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,840
Saturday.
But first, let me talk to Dion

1614
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:32,040
for a moment.
Now, you're probably not going

1615
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,360
to hear this, but we do know you
do follow social media stuff, so

1616
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:39,520
who knows.
Rumor is you want to take that

1617
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:44,480
Dallas Cowboys job.
Well, really, you really want to

1618
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:47,000
go back to Jerry World and deal
with that clown show because it

1619
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,000
seems like you got a pretty good
gig where you're at.

1620
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,160
Colorado is a chill place to
live.

1621
01:31:51,160 --> 01:31:54,600
Queso Benito's back, the best
player in the NBA, the Joker,

1622
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,800
and he's hanging out in Denver
and, well, we've legal.

1623
01:31:57,800 --> 01:31:59,600
So even when you lose,
everybody's going to forget

1624
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:02,600
about it anyway.
So you might want to think about

1625
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,520
it before you make that jump
back to Texas.

1626
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:07,720
But don't take my word for it.
There's another Colorado

1627
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,240
institution that has a song
that, well, goes a little like

1628
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,160
this.
This.

1629
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:20,480
Whole world is getting to me.
There's no trust, no integrity.

1630
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:26,600
So I loaded.
Up the kids, took the wife out

1631
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:37,560
of the home and I moved on out
to Colorado farm hurting rice

1632
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:40,840
crops are all brownies.
Those fries here sitting folks

1633
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:53,880
by the dog and that's cold beer
bigger truck country and listen

1634
01:32:53,880 --> 01:33:00,320
shit, we gotta tear and keep us
warm.

1635
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:12,120
Well, that's what you get on.
Hey Dion, you do you, but I

1636
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,160
would stay in Colorado.
Most importantly, let's go ahead

1637
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:20,120
and take care of Kansas,
Colorado -2 1/2 this Saturday.

1638
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:26,840
I'll see you all next week.
Jason put a lot of time and

1639
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,080
effort and thought into that
recording a.

1640
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:34,680
Little 2 for one special too.
One special Oh my God, I'm about

1641
01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:36,800
crying over here, especially
using a South Park song.

1642
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:45,560
All right, so it is Colorado
getting 2 1/2 points against

1643
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,160
Kansas at Kansas.
Brian Ziegler.

1644
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,680
For every single reason that
Jason just laid out, I'm going

1645
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:56,520
with the Buffaloes.
Line of the year is weed is

1646
01:33:56,520 --> 01:34:00,040
legal there, so even if you lose
they're going to forget about

1647
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:01,800
it.
Give me Colorado, they're not

1648
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:03,760
losing this one.
They covered it 2 1/2 easy.

1649
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:07,800
Kansas has actually been one of
the unluckiest teams in the

1650
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:10,720
country this year, which is why
there were only 2.5 dogs to BYU

1651
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,240
last weekend.
Turns out they won.

1652
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:16,160
So I I like, I like Kansas a lot
better than some people do, but

1653
01:34:16,160 --> 01:34:17,960
I just think Colorado has too
much skill talent and they're

1654
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:19,400
going to they're going to find a
way to win the game.

1655
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:25,480
Give me Colorado.
Hey.

1656
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:28,800
Miranda and I would cross the
ball.

1657
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:30,080
That's.
Three in a row, man.

1658
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:37,000
Three in a row, Oh Lord.
Oh, there it is.

1659
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:38,360
There it is.
There it is.

1660
01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:39,920
Look at.
The bottle work there a lot of

1661
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,120
sheeps a.
Lot of sheeps.

1662
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:47,360
We're all sheeps.
Hey, you got to give Jason some

1663
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,520
props here.
This that ASU pick.

1664
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,200
He went out on the ledge.
He did go out on the ledge

1665
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:54,040
there.
Not.

1666
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,200
Not a lot of parody this week.
Not a lot of parody fellas.

1667
01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,960
Anything Additionally y'all want
to add the 9 before we wrap this

1668
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:05,440
show up?
I like.

1669
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,920
Gently for the Heisman.
Gently for the Heisman, all

1670
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:12,000
right.
I think if it's not Hunter, it's

1671
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,920
gently so.
I like gently, man.

1672
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,080
Ain't no lie, dude.
But Hunter is just he's he's

1673
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,200
different.
So we'll see.

1674
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:22,680
It'll be fun to see how it
shakes out, yeah.

1675
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:25,640
Sometimes I need the junior to.
Win a football game, that's what

1676
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:29,120
I need.
I feel like Hunter is the the

1677
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:32,280
popular selection, whether it's
going to, you know, go that way

1678
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:34,160
or not.
Well, but he but he's doing it

1679
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,720
though.
I mean, if he wasn't doing it,

1680
01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:40,960
then you could say why.
But he's making picks, he's

1681
01:35:40,960 --> 01:35:43,200
making plays on the offensive
side of the ball.

1682
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,920
You know what hasn't he done?
Yeah, that's the whole piece.

1683
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,560
And and it's again, you know,
the only 9.

1684
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,760
What is it?
Woodson 27 years ago and Woodson

1685
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,000
did very minimal on offense that
year.

1686
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:57,560
Yeah.
So I I think it's Hunter.

1687
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,160
The the only way it wouldn't be
Hunter would be the following if

1688
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:04,880
the next three games, the next
three games, because Boise I

1689
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:06,600
think is automatically in the
Mountain West.

1690
01:36:07,200 --> 01:36:13,680
If if Gente gets to 2500 yards
and 30 plus touchdowns then

1691
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:15,640
because that's Barry Sanders
type shit.

1692
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,000
Yeah.
You know, somebody said he's on

1693
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,200
Barry's pace, like Barry went
for 2600 and like 11 games.

1694
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:26,960
He is not on Barry's pace.
That was, I mean, I was 5, but I

1695
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,520
can remember going back and
reading that and it's like, how

1696
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:32,480
do you have 2600 yards in 11
games?

1697
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:36,120
Do that math.
All righty.

1698
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,720
All right, well, that is going
to wrap up this episode of the

1699
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:43,280
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1700
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:45,320
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1701
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:48,120
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1702
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1703
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1704
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:55,800
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1705
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,320
Brian, did the person get in
touch with you?

1706
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:04,800
They did not.
OK, so we're going to give them

1707
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,520
one more week.
Say the name again.

1708
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:15,640
Jonathan Harris Jonathan Harris
8975 is the user on YouTube.

1709
01:37:16,440 --> 01:37:19,480
Please reach out to us.
We've got a, we got a fun

1710
01:37:19,480 --> 01:37:21,960
pyramid to send your way, but we
need to know how to get it to

1711
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,800
you.
If Jonathan Harris has not

1712
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,440
contacted us by the time Jason's
song hits at the top of the

1713
01:37:28,440 --> 01:37:32,520
program next week, he's void.
Sorry.

1714
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:36,800
If you're listening to this and
it's 9:30 next Tuesday, you

1715
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:38,840
ain't got a You ain't got one
sorry.

1716
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:46,000
So remember that we are going to
going to redraw.

1717
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:49,400
So if you are one of those
people that put your names in,

1718
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:50,960
Brian still got the thing set
up.

1719
01:37:51,280 --> 01:37:53,720
So all you got to do is press a
button and we get another name

1720
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:57,720
again, Jonathan Harris.
If you're out there listening,

1721
01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:02,800
if you don't get to us by 9 PM
when we pressed a button to go

1722
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,800
live next Tuesday night, which
is going to be a fun one because

1723
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:08,320
I ain't working Wednesday, I
might have a few drinking drinks

1724
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:10,080
here.
I'm not working that whole damn

1725
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,720
week.
I'm working Monday.

1726
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,800
I got to clean up my e-mail.
I got like 350 floating out

1727
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:16,680
there.
I got to get rid of them.

1728
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,240
I can't deal with it no more.
I got too many hours to take

1729
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,200
between now and end of the year.
Yeah, Brian.

1730
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:27,480
Brian could take the whole month
of Yeah, yeah, Brian's got all

1731
01:38:27,480 --> 01:38:28,760
these days.
He basically ain't working

1732
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,440
there.
But anyways, go to Boundary

1733
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:34,160
Corner, go to Facebook,
Instagram, YouTube.

1734
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:36,320
Appreciate y'all doing all that
good stuff.

1735
01:38:36,560 --> 01:38:38,600
Y'all know all the podcast
forces we're on.

1736
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:40,760
Y'all know Jason plays us and
plays us out.

1737
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,520
Check his website,
jasonlongmusic.com out.

1738
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:45,960
It'll tell you where he's going
to be playing down to the

1739
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:49,000
Roanoke area.
Also all of his music stuff.

1740
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,760
We thank you all for listening,
and as always, let's go.

1741
01:38:52,400 --> 01:39:38,400
Please.
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