Week Ten
Boundary Corner Podcast
Week Ten

It wasn't pretty but the Hokies handled the Yellow Jackets on Homecoming and collected it's first winning streak of the year with a 21-6 win at Lane Stadium. We Tell the Truth about a gritty win at home ahead of a trip to the JMA Dome in Syracuse. We wrap as always with our Big Screeners picks presented by Counts Family Pharmacy.

00:02:42 - Tell the Truth Tuesday

00:46:31 - Know the Enemy

01:07:26 - Hokie Keys and Predictions

01:18:08 - Big Screeners

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Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary

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Corner podcast, the part of the
College Heddle network, along

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with my partners, Brian Siegler
and Jonathan Tally.

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Gentlemen, how are we doing on a
winning Tuesday?

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Busy, busy, busy.
It's been a it's been a little

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bit of a busy day for me, buddy,
but we are we're back at it

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again.
It is a victory Tuesday wasn't

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an inspiring victory Tuesday,
but a win is a win is a win is a

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win, especially when it keeps
you in the ACC hunt.

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I'm with Brian when he says
busy.

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So football season is over for
us here in my household.

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My son is done with JV football,
so he's moved on to basketball.

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So we're getting ready for
basketball season to start up.

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But you know who's not done with
football?

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The Hokies.
They're still winning three in

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one in conference play, another
win.

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I'll take them any way we can
get them 21 to six win over

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Georgia Tech.
So yeah, feeling good, man.

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Back in the saddle with my guys.
Chad is already going.

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Got somebody commentating in the
chat saying the podcast will

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start momentarily.
Hey, we already getting it.

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We we ready to roll.
We.

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Already it has.
Begun and all these folks

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putting this in, we appreciate
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I appreciate that guys.
By the way, Steven, I get it,

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man, Don't worry.
Don't worry, Steven, it's going

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to be on YouTube for you or on
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tomorrow.
Well, let's get into telling the

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truth on this Tuesday, as we do
talk about a 26 to 6V over

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Georgia Tech first thing.
The first time since 2012.

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We'll say that again.
The first time since 2012.

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My son and Brian's son had not
been born the last time we beat

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Georgia Tech at home.
That's not a lie.

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That's not a lie.
That's.

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Crazy.
Since they were born and the way

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I look at it, and y'all kind of
said it, we're talking about a

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win tonight.
We're not talking about a loss

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even though we played like crap.
But I'm going to put John on.

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One side of the ball. 01 side of
the ball.

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Hey, hey.
I I don't have a ton of a a ton

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of nitpicks on the defense.
I think offense was definitely

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uninspired outside of just being
absolute hammers in the red

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zone.
Danny, we'll talk about that.

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But I like what our buddy John
Le Cook said.

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It was a Brian Stein spring win.
And you know what?

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I'm sitting here.
Go back in your memory, Banks,

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everybody, those who are older,
that was a Brian Stein spring

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win.
Get a couple explosive plays,

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get it in the red zone, score,
touchdowns, defense forces some

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turnovers, forces some.
Stop that, that.

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That looked like a 2007 win in
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Not even bullshit.
Yeah, and, and I mean, other

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than, you know, I, I think we
were probably a little less

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efficient in the run game that I
think a lot of us anticipated

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we'd be in that game.
I think, you know, we we knew

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that Georgia Tech was good up
front and we knew that more than

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likely they're going to get in
there and load the box and force

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us to beat them through the air,
which, you know, isn't their

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strong suit defensively.
But I think it's a good, it's

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it, you know it, it's a good
game plan against, you know what

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we're doing right now just
because we've been OK in the

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past game, but we have not hit
the home runs in the past game

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that we would like to hit.
And until we start taking the

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top off a little bit more,
that's how teams are going to

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play us.
No, I agree.

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I agree totally.
I mean, I'll go ahead, Curtis.

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Well, I was gonna say that's the
stuff that went bad.

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Hold that tight.
Let's talk about what went.

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We're good tally.
Let's talk about the defense

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man, because first of all, Tally
and Brian did not get to to ride

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the Curtis Wilson roller coaster
on Saturday afternoon because

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Curtis Wilson was at a baseball
game literally from the time the

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game started to pretty much me
getting in my car and hearing

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Bill Roth talking Jalen Jones
pick.

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So they didn't get to ride it.
Tally, I appreciate all the

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updates on Saturday.
You kept me sane and not pulling

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out my phone every 4 seconds to
check the score.

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So what did you see from the
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Hammers, man, like Brian said,
Hammers is just, they were

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hidden, they were physical, went
back, got against the wall, you

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know, they bounced off that wall
and fought back, got in the

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corner and fought out like dogs.
They didn't let nobody get in

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the end zone.
You know what was the last time

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we could say that?
You know, every time that it

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looked like something bad was
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stood up and stopped it.
So that was definitely good to

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see because again, like Brian
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be desired.
So defense stepped up and did

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their job.
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That's part of what a good team
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You struggle in one area, you
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Yep.
And I think the big thing for me

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was watching, you know, kind of
the success they were having

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getting off the field when they
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there.
So, you know, that was

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important.
We had talked about it being a

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key.
They did well with that.

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And I think that's that's
something that we can keep that

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up and get the offense back the
ball, even if they don't do a

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whole lot with it.
You know, you, you keep getting

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the getting the team frustrated,
keep stealing the momentum back,

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keeping them off off their off
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You know, good things are going
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this offense has some weapons.
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stuff like that, I think that'll
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work, work its way back into
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And Brian, you mentioned it, the
money down 6 for 20, they got

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zero fourth down conversions and
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or 6 for 16.
I got to pull up the exact stats

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like they couldn't get much done
on 3rd like they.

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'D get 6 for 20. 6 for 20 total
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So on 3rd and 4th down.
I mean, I'll take that every day

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twice on Sundays.
Let me ask you all this because

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again, I I watched it condensed
and I saw some highlights and

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some things here and there.
But in y'all's opinion and and

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coach pride mentioned it, but
he's actually mentioned the last

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couple weeks why and and y'all
played so y'all can see things

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and that I don't see why the run
fits getting better like why?

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Like, what has changed really in
this last month where he's

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chuckling over here?
So I'm going to let Brian start.

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Hey, there's already been a
comment about it.

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What's changed?
I mean, we kind of know what's

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changed.
Oh, you're talking about that

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right there.
Yeah, Keller has been the the

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prophecy has finally been
fulfilled.

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It, it took three years and, and
we finally got to a point where

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now we can say that Jane Keller
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quality player for this defense.
And he's always had the physical

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tools and it, it, it's really
just been the mental piece.

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And for all the, you know, we
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I think Brumfield has been a
solid, if not spectacular

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addition to the defense.
But what he has done is given

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Keller someone to learn from and
someone to be a sounding board

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for those mental aspects of
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that he he didn't have at all
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And, you know, he had in a in a
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So I think that's been kind of a
levelling thing for him.

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And, and, and we're starting to
see as the season's going on and

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he's getting, you know, some
more interactions there start

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starting to see that come to
fruition and starting to see him

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really put the pieces together
mentally.

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Because like I said, he's always
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He's he's very athletic, he's
got good length.

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He's the type of guy that you
want to see in the middle of a

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defense.
And he's starting to have the

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the the mentals to back that up
and be able to go out there and

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leave the the middle of the
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Thank you, Tyler, what are you
seeing?

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Yeah, no, kind of what Brian
saying, but you also got to add

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on just the more and more people
play together, they get better

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continuity.
You kind of know what somebody's

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going to be.
You feel them kind of playoff of

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them, playoff their energy.
Kiante Jenkins is playing well.

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He's coming up hitting people,
you know, kind of what we knew

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it could be, but it's not that
hit somebody and then he's hurt

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for two series after that and
he's hopping up, he's talking

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junk, getting back to the
huddle, coming back doing again.

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I think he led us in tackles on
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So, you know, watching these
guys that we know had some

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talent take just another step is
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That's what you want to see.
That's why the fits are getting

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better.
And I think Brumfield has a lot

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to do with that.
Just showing people how to be a

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pro.
What he lacks in size, he makes

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up in, you know, experience and
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You know, you can hear him
speak.

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I'm sure he's in that room
telling the guys how to prepare

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for games and showing them how
to prepare for games.

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And that's why you see somebody
like, you know, Jayden Keller

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take the next step.
Yep, and I'll tell you something

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else y'all saying that I'm also
looking at the depth at

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linebackers.
Another reason too, because if

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you stay fresher, you won't be a
sloppy, right?

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You won't be a sloppy.
Georgia Tech had 81 snaps total

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snaps.
They passed the ball a lot

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because they were down a lot.
But you want to know something.

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You want to know of the
linebackers who played the most

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snaps.
And I do consider County Jenkins

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a linebacker.
Probably Jenkins or Woodson.

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Jenkins and Woodson, Guess what
they both did 1 did 62, one did

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60.
So there were 20 plus snaps.

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They weren't on the field.
Lawson got 21.

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Brumfield got 22, Caleb Spencer
got 15, and you got where is it?

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Jaden Keller got 59.
So it's not only that, it's the

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one, the Unit 1 doing its job,
Unit 2.

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And the way they're mixing and
matching, they're staying fresh.

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We we truly do have a linebacker
rotation where I think us three,

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if we were to say it and I were
to say, hey guys, we're going to

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put Brunfield, we're going to
put Lawson and we're going to

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quit Spencer out.
You'll be like, OK, that's three

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good players that can make
plays.

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It's not like this anymore.
Who's on the field?

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Oh, man, that ain't good.
They going to do something

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stupid and I think that's
helping as well that those guys,

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you said italic, they're all
comfortable together and now

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regardless of combination,
they're all getting comfortable.

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The other thing, Saturday, I
know some people might consider

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this a high number.
I look at percentages.

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We only had eight missed tackles
on 81 snaps under 10, right at

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10%, take 10% all day.
On a game like that with 80 plus

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snaps now you take 10% on 50
maybe not, but 80?

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I'd take that.
And I think, you know, you said,

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I mean, you're going 6 deep at
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And I think some of that, yeah,
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there was some some hamming and
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cross, cross positional play
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But, you know, we're starting to
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And now we now we're seeing
again, we got got 60, we got two

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guys in just about every spot in
there that can go out there and

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give you significant snaps and
not really feel it, feel bad

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about that, that exposure for
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That is key.
All right, one last piece I want

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to talk about here and Tally,
you mentioned it, but I didn't.

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I want to know if you knew it
was this good.

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You mentioned every time they
got backed up because they

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pushed us to the red zone a
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times after the game Saturday.
This is the fourth ranked red

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zone defense in the country.
They know it was that good.

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That good and especially and
start thinking about the last

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even the last few weeks what
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they started in the red zone and
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They never got down there in any
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Stanford and even Miami.
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the red zone.
So this defense is it's it's not

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only a bend but not break, but
in some cases it's effectively

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you're not even getting past the
50 if the sacks are going on,

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you're punting a lot and you
have what happened on 3rd down.

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Hey, Brian, you alluded to this
law earlier.

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One other thing that went well,
red zone offense and anything.

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Anything y'all are seeing or
what y'all are liking?

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I mean, I think the big thing is
that just clutch play, man.

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You know, when we're looking at
it, it seems like this defense

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tends to come up with some big
plays in the red zone when we

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need them.
Whether it's to get off the

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field, force a field goal,
whether it's a key turnover,

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whether it's a big stop on a
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short.
I mean, they seem to always just

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have the right the right call in
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And that's been that's been big,
I think in, in, in the games in

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the last month, but obviously
big in a game like this Saturday

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where your offense wasn't doing
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You needed those stops in order
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game at arm's length.
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felt like we did in this game.
You know, we, we never really,

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we didn't dominate.
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from a just pure yard
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them at arm's length throughout
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the defense and especially on
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Tally.
No, I agree.

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I mean, again, just kind of
like, like Brian said, you know,

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keeping it at at arm's length
defense, just going out, playing

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hard, being able to rotate those
guys in often is doing just

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enough for us to put the points
on the board and and and take

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the game.
So you kind of seen it man where

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we the defence is like they was
trying to give the offense a

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kick in the butt sometimes you
know what I'm saying?

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It's like OK, y'all messed up
here.

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You, you made a bad play here,
you did this.

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Then we come back with a we come
back with a pick, you know, give

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it to your plus territory.
We come back with a special

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teams play, give it to you in
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It's like OK, go do something
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So just just kept, just kept
grinding, man, Just kept

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grinding.
All right, I'm going to make

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this real quick.
And as we go over, because there

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were some bad things and even
though we won the game, you

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always got to look at we got to
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Do you all know this?
The last three games, 11 for 11

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inside the red zone, 11 did.
Not know.

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That 11 for 11, you know, the
last time we haven't, we didn't

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score inside the red zone.
Who was that?

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What?
What's the play that pissed you

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off the most in the last game?
Was it Miami?

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Is that fucking fake field goal
that the last time we did not

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score in the red zone was right
there?

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We scored in the red zone one
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Makes you a little bit upset
because you think how we're

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doing it.
Like if we would have just ran a

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normal play, we score a
touchdown and that game is

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history.
All right, let's go over to the

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offensive line and let's talk
about the definitely the

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troubles are reappearing there.
Brian, you looked at some film

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and what happened because
obviously we 14 pressures on 31

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drop backs.
That's way too much, but 111 of

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the 117 were after contact.
So this wasn't just a pass pro

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issue, this was a run block
issue as well and if we don't

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have guys like Tooting and
drones who are absolute hosses

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to take down, this would not
have been good.

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Yeah, I mean, I when you look at
it, it's a it's a combination of

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things here.
The offensive line obviously

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didn't have a great game, but
what the defense was doing, they

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were absolutely selling out for
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And they were basically saying,
Kyron, you got to beat us,

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especially in the intermediate
and in deep areas of the field.

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They were trying to take away as
much of the short stuff as they

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could and take away as much as
the run as they could.

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They did a pretty good job of
doing that.

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But you know, at at the same
time, you know, you got to be

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able to take advantage of what
the defense is giving you.

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And they were giving us throws
down the field and we did not do

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a good job of taking advantage
of that.

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Some of that was offensive line
not giving Kyron in time.

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Some of that was Kyron missing a
couple of those shots down the

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field when he had those
one-on-one situations.

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Some of that was just a
combination of play calling and

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just not not getting guys in
spots of the field where Kyron

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could get comfortable.
And I think that's kind of the

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the theme of the day is that we
never, I think had a chance

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offensively to get Kyron really
comfortable in the passing game

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in in those timing areas.
And that kind of threw off his

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game as a whole when we look at
him throwing the football deeper

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down the field.
What about you?

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I don't know if you got to hear
Brian, you got unfortunately

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disconnected there, but you
know, couldn't run, struggles

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passing.
We looked at the PFF and some of

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these guys got really good
grades and they may have overall

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did fine, but overall as a unit,
something we talked about and I

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think this is the truth, why you
can't always judge PFF.

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We were talking about it before
we got on the night tally.

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Me, you and Brian.
PFF never counts for like the

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big plays that screwed things
up.

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It's just did you win or did you
lose?

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Because you could win on 30 drop
backs, you could win 20 of them.

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But what if the 10 you gave up
three sacks that took you out of

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scoring range, that stopped
drives?

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That's a hell of a lot more
negative than somebody, you

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know, giving up a slight
pressure.

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Yeah, there's there's no weight,
there's no weight attached to

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the to the to the play by play
grade.

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So.
But what, what do you think,

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Charlie?
You, you, you got to see the

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game live in the moment.
So and I know you, you listen to

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Brian and and you do second
reviews yourself, but what was

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wrong with the offensive line
with you?

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Kind of like, I mean, Thomas
kind of hit it on the hit the

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nail on the head a little bit in
in the chat when you talk about

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the slow developing pass plays,
things like that, you know,

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predictable play calling
sometimes that's the main two

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things.
We'll just say that the slow

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developing pass plays where
first play of the game, you drop

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Karen back to do whatever.
We don't even get to see it

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because he's hit 10 yard loss
and fumbles the ball.

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Thank the Lord we got on it.
Like you just don't need that.

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You know, you don't need that.
That's not what we do.

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Well, that's not what he does.
Well, you know what I'm saying?

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I just think we can do some
things different and then it

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goes to the next one.
What I said, predictable play

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calling, which is might be what
they were trying to do.

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Hey, let's you know, everybody's
seen this.

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Let's do something different.
Georgia Techs defensive and

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offensive line were were really
good like they're they're

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they're solid.
I was going to say they're

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really good, but they're solid.
They're going to be when we look

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back on this, we're going to go,
hey, that was one of the better

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lines that we face.
That was one of the better

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defensive lines that we face.
They're very physical.

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They they were tough.
You know what I'm saying that

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you can tell that they're well
coached.

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So it starts in the churches and
sometimes we just got, you know,

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you don't get beat and the only
thing you can do to beat a

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better player on that play is to
out scheming, which we did.

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And we got some points when we
out schemed them.

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So, you know, I'll take that.
But yeah, the slow development

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plays and predictable play
calling sometimes because I

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mean, you got to thank Tude had
80 yards and it was that was a

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tough 80 yards to get.
But a lot of the plays that he

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was running and they would that
we ran for him, we're plays that

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we've run all year.
And like if you're a decent

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defensive coordinator, like you
see the motions and you see the

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different setups and you like, I
know what's coming here.

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You know what I'm saying?
Like so got to find a way to

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throw some wrinkles in there and
do some different things like

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that.
Yeah.

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And and, and, and that's why I
kind of going to pivot to what

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we're going to go to next and
it's talking about the offensive

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play calling because I mean,
first of all, the, the what have

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we been saying?
We cannot be a 5050 team.

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We were a 5050 team Saturday and
we won.

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Thank you.
Because I mean, the honest truth

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is it's a, it's a, it's a
prayer.

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We won.
But my thing is, and I want to

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talk to you all about this
because I'm sitting here

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watching condensed, watching
some highlights and I see what

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Georgia Tech's doing.
And I know like, we shut them

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down.
Who cares what they're doing if

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we attacked?
Like that we would look good

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doing that.
We would.

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It would have been 42 six.
Right, rolling the pocket, you

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know, dumping off into the
flats, hitting the crossing

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routes, you know, different
things like that, Yeah.

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Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of what I

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was alluding to.
And I was talking about we

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didn't do enough early in the
game to get Kyron comfortable

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because I mean, we talked about
it on here before and and I'll

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keep preaching.
I mean, when, when Kyron has

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confidence early in a game, he
is a different football player.

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He is one of the best
quarterbacks that you could have

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in the country.
When he is confident early in a

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football game, when he doesn't
get that early confidence, you

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know, he, he, he's, he's, he can
be very average at times.

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And, and when, when that
happens, you know, as a

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coordinator, you got to take a
cue there and understand that

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I've got to get him comfortable.
I've got to get him early wins.

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And I don't think you know
totality to your point that that

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opening play call, you know,
it's aggression and it's a

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little bit off your normal
schedule.

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But at the same time it it
probably plays into Kyron's

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biggest weakness as a thrower
and your offense's biggest

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weakness as a whole in terms of
drop back pass protection.

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So, you know, you kind of played
a little bit into the defense's

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hands, even though you were
mixing up what, what your normal

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script would be.
So you know that that kind of

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puts you behind the chains early
and then you don't really kind

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of get into a good offensive
rhythm until later in the in the

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first quarter there.
And, and I think that that's a

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big thing for this Virginia Tech
offense is that you've seen

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anytime we start early, we score
points, anytime we don't start

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early, it's it's a slog.
And, and so that's, that's

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something to keep an eye on and
that's something to monitor.

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And I think as a coaching staff,
you got to address and say, we

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got to give this offense the
chance to get some of those wins

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early.
I mean, it doesn't always have

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00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,760
to be the first drive.
Like sometimes you just go have

441
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,080
drives where they got your
number right at the gate, but

442
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,640
you got to find ways to get your
quarterback comfortable in the

443
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,480
passing game.
So you can lean on your run game

444
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,080
because that is the strength of
your team.

445
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,040
But if you're not able to get
your quarterback comfortable,

446
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,800
that's when the defense can tee
up in the box and, and, and take

447
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,640
away your biggest asset, which
is that rushing attack.

448
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,480
Well, let me ask this Brian and
and I and I hit you up solo on

449
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,320
this and Batali chime in as
well.

450
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,960
When they got to load in the box
and you could see it, me

451
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,200
watching condensed, you could
see 7-8 guys around the box.

452
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,360
They knew where we were running
the ball at times and what I

453
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:55,800
didn't see were hot routes,
quick throws, you know, like you

454
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,840
say, Tally, just just something
in the flat.

455
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,840
They got aid in the box.
If you're doing anything like

456
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,800
pulling Basil out or Jay Lane to
the flat or you're running a

457
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,560
quick slant or a quick hitch or
a quick out, sometimes that goes

458
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,920
completely out of the playbook.
Where I feel like we sit here, I

459
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,200
listen to y'all and y'all would
say if you just ran A4 yard

460
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,560
slant where that linebacker
snuck down into the box to Jay

461
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,520
Lane.
If the if the quarterback ain't

462
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,440
right on his hip and that safety
don't make the right step, see

463
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,640
you, you're giving a 50 yard
play.

464
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,720
And and I feel like we're not
seeing that as much this year.

465
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,960
At least I'm not again, my eyes
aren't as trained as y'all's.

466
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,920
Like we saw at times last year.
Always go back to the Wake

467
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,640
Forest play and it was like a 8
yard slant.

468
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,600
They loaded the box.
There was one safety up, the

469
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,600
little RPO.
That safety did a false step.

470
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,800
Kyron put it right on Jay Lane
and he housed it for 70 yards.

471
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,800
And it's like, if you're going
to loosen, why aren't?

472
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,200
And Sheldon said it last week,
and this is what irritates me.

473
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,520
Kyron's intermediate passing
game has gotten so much better

474
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,840
this year.
And it's like we just abandoned

475
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,360
it.
Abandoned first play of the

476
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:08,360
game.
We're going to go with a double

477
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:10,040
move.
Well, why don't you go with a

478
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,160
play action like a crosser or
Benji up the scene, like

479
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,040
something where, you know, this
is his comfort zone and it's

480
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,480
like they try to go away from it
and then we screw around and

481
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,440
next thing you know, we're all
sitting here, man, we going to

482
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,080
do something stupid.
We're going to lose this game.

483
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:26,920
They making brown smoke
cigarettes.

484
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,640
They make me slip on the bottle
at the baseball game tally.

485
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,280
I don't know what you're doing,
but we all doing something, try

486
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,800
to calm ourselves down, you
know?

487
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,240
Sorry, pacing through the house
with my shirt off.

488
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,680
Hey, that's what I'm doing.
You know, and, and, and for that

489
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,720
first down play like, let's call
something like 1/2 roll and you

490
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,960
know, get, get like 1/2 field
read, do like a, you know, a, a,

491
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,320
a go route with a deep crosser.
You know, something where you

492
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,000
get, you know, 11 read 2 read,
check down.

493
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,680
And and and make that something
where if Kyron, if it ain't

494
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,920
there, if he's got pressure, he
can easily get rid of the

495
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,400
football and and and play
another down instead of having a

496
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,200
guy in his face ball on the
ground and you know, thankfully

497
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,640
gets back on it.
Yeah, I don't.

498
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,600
I mean, again, I'm not going to
get on Tebow too much because

499
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,040
some of it is execution from
what I see.

500
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,680
I have to put stuff on players,
but players play, you know,

501
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,560
can't miss blocks, can't miss
people running wide open across

502
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,920
the middle of the field,
different things like that.

503
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:38,440
But I will say, just looking at
the team, I feel like Chris Marv

504
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,760
knows what the identity is and
he tries to stick to that.

505
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,480
You know, he knows what his
defensive identity is and for

506
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,600
good or for bad, he's leaning
into it and you can see him

507
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,480
building on it each week.
Now with our offense, I see us,

508
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,840
it's kind of like we got a lot
of shiny toys and whichever 1 is

509
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,000
got new batteries, that's the
one we use that week, you know

510
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,600
what I'm saying?
Like sometimes I kind of feel

511
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,760
like that's how it is.
And on one hand, you do need to

512
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,480
see some different plays.
Like I've seen some different

513
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,520
plays that I haven't seen, you
know, in in two years, you know,

514
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,280
this game.
Hey, we.

515
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,200
Got a Philly special?
Yeah, Philly Special flea

516
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,120
flicker.
You know, I've seen a couple

517
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,400
things like that.
But also to do all that stuff,

518
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,960
you still have to have our
identity.

519
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,760
You know what I'm saying?
I still feel like we're trying

520
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,880
to we're struggling to lean into
that identity.

521
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,360
So we got to do it.
We we got to know what makes us

522
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,160
good.
We got to lead into that.

523
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,440
And then some of the other stuff
that can come off of that.

524
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,960
So again, I compared like, you
know, offense to defense of Marv

525
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:51,480
to Tebow, but he both got his
hands full because when we're

526
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,320
good, we're good.
When we're bad, we're bad on

527
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,760
offense, you know what I'm
saying?

528
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,000
So I know he's I know he's
trying.

529
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,400
That's not a middle, but so I
know he's trying to, you know,

530
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,160
make some things work.
And he did it again, I got to

531
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,680
give him his props.
Like he's seen what we couldn't

532
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,240
move the ball and we were having
some problems and he pulled some

533
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,560
stuff out that, you know,
progressed us down the field,

534
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,920
which is what we needed to win.
But at the same time, I still

535
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,640
think, like Curtis said, when we
started this, you get some of

536
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,240
those hot rods, like on the 1st
drive, not the first drive, but

537
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,880
the second drive, you know, when
we hit Benji, he's wide open.

538
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,960
You know what I'm saying?
It was nothing but a hot rod,

539
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,440
you know, So you did some motion
to kind of mess them up and send

540
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,520
somebody out to the flats and
they don't know who to cover.

541
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,880
And they think, well, actually
what they did was it was pretty,

542
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,280
that was pretty genius play
call.

543
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,160
So they moved the tackle to the
other side, you know, they moved

544
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,440
the one tackle to the other
side.

545
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,720
So you got 2 tackles on one
side.

546
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,560
Yeah.
So then you got Benji lined up

547
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,640
on the on the line and it looks
like he's a tackle, but he is a

548
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,800
eligible receiver and he just
hits hot right up the scene.

549
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,800
So great play design, but you
don't have to stop at one play.

550
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,000
Like you can build off.
You can build off that, off

551
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,120
that, that set, you know what
I'm saying?

552
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,640
Just things like that.
Let me let me put my thumb right

553
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,640
on the problem and I'm going to
I'm going to do it by asking a

554
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,240
question when it comes to the
passing game.

555
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,680
What is the bread and butter of
this offense?

556
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:21,840
Racial.
Tune.

557
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,040
Now I'm saying from a passing
standpoint.

558
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,240
The pass it don't work unless
you got him.

559
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,440
Right now that that's, that's my
point.

560
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,880
There's not really, you don't
have a bread and butter play in

561
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,800
this playbook that says when we
need yards, when we need a first

562
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,680
down, when we need 7, when we
need 8.

563
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,560
We don't have a play that's
like, all right, this is what

564
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,560
this is where Kyron feels the
most comfortable.

565
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,640
I don't feel like we've seen it.
I feel like there are.

566
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,920
We scheme ourselves into these
situations and scheme our way

567
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,680
out of them sometime.
But we don't have a Kelly, you

568
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,480
were talking about identity.
We don't really have an identity

569
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,960
from a passing standpoint that
says we do this really good

570
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880
really consistently.
Let me ask you this, Brian and

571
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,400
Curtis too, but Brian said she
said that because this is

572
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,200
something I talk about a lot of
times, no disrespect to our wide

573
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,280
receivers, but I'm watching
certain plays and I'm watching,

574
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,040
you know, kind of going back and
watching tape and things like

575
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,320
that.
Do you think that is is because

576
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,280
we don't separate enough on our
wide receivers aren't separate

577
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,200
enough because sometimes we have
the opportunity to make plays,

578
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,080
but maybe somebody in the open,
maybe somebody didn't see it.

579
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,360
What do y'all think is going on
kind of with the receiver room?

580
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,600
I don't, I think they do get
separation.

581
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,560
I don't think it's consistently.
I don't think it's like it's

582
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,840
not.
It's to me.

583
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,760
I would want it to be.
Well, one person, one we won't

584
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,520
be clear.
One person gets separation all

585
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,680
the time.
But go ahead.

586
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,600
I know who that is.
I will let you mention in a

587
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,120
little while here, that text I
read while at the game was that

588
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,040
play, but I think it's about
it's not consistently, it's not

589
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,600
consistently where, you know,
you got somebody 75, somebody

590
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,880
60.
You know, you got Felton who's a

591
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,360
big guy, He's physical where you
almost want to say is you've got

592
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,880
to trust his big body to go get
the ball.

593
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,400
You've got to trust they're
going to win these battles.

594
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,840
So it I don't think it's like to
a point where it's like, Oh my

595
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,360
God, they can never get
separation.

596
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,280
But it's not, I think it's to
you what you said earlier, it's

597
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,679
not at the comfort level it
needs to be for Kyron to feel

598
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,960
comfortable just letting the
ball go.

599
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,120
Like he knows he's going to get
off that press or he's going to

600
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,360
get the separation on that cut.
And I will put it right there on

601
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,639
them.
Right.

602
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:48,120
Yeah, I'm understanding that.
Yeah, I'm, I, I think we got, we

603
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,159
got some guys that they get
separation.

604
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:53,840
But I to to Curtis's point, I
think the consistency is, is

605
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,120
probably the bigger issue.
And I think maybe when we think

606
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,120
about separation and we think
about how our offensive line is,

607
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,360
I think we're not seeing
separation maybe early in the

608
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,200
snap as much as we want to see
it.

609
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,120
I think our guys get open, but
sometimes I think they get open

610
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,480
at a time where Kyron's already
either made a decision to step

611
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,880
up, climb the ladder.
I think sometimes, sometimes if

612
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,600
he sees the tight coverage
before the break, he's not

613
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,920
always anticipating the
separation out of the break.

614
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,160
And so he kind of makes that
decision there.

615
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,200
So there's, there's there's a
lot of different factors.

616
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,440
I think that's playing into
that.

617
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,040
Some of that's on Kyra and some
of that's on, you know, the

618
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,480
receiver route running.
So I think there's, there's

619
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,520
blame across the board here, you
know, even going going to the

620
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,240
play call in itself, I think
there's there's a little blame

621
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,880
to be passed around.
But like I said, I think I'd

622
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,400
like to see us figure out what
we really do well in the passing

623
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,800
game and maybe lean on that a
little bit more, especially when

624
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,680
we have games like Georgia Tech
where we really couldn't find

625
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,520
consistency in the run game
because of the way they were

626
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,200
playing in the.
Box right?

627
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,120
I'm I'm going to say this and
it's and it's going back to

628
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,920
simple, it's schematics tally
like you mentioned a little

629
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,040
while ago, move in the pocket,
rolling Kyron out.

630
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,240
That's a scheme thing because
what that does y'all know both

631
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,480
from playing the second that
pocket is rolled like on a

632
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,200
second and 8th you roll the
pocket on it's a pass play.

633
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,240
Wait a second though.
If, if, if we F up and he gets a

634
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,440
step, Kyron can get 10 yards.
If if we really F up he can get

635
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,080
35.
Right.

636
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,760
We're not putting them, we're
not putting the defense to have

637
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,560
to make a decision because what
normally happens when the pocket

638
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,600
rolls, safety or linebackers do
something, they move out of the

639
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,880
place.
What usually happens there is a

640
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,080
you're running somebody right
into where the potentially that

641
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,560
gap could be, right.
Oh, I'm going to run a little

642
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,440
crosser.
Well, that safety just came up

643
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,560
because he saw Kyron.
Well, now Kyron's got an easy

644
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,600
third down field.
Oh, he didn't come up.

645
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,480
Well, now it's going to be the
linebacker trying to beat Kyron

646
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,480
to the boundary and regardless,
Karen's going to get the

647
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,800
positive yards.
The other thing that I we have

648
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,480
not seen I feel like since the
first month of the season where

649
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,520
the orbit motions with Jane
Logan go.

650
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,400
Why aren't we orbit motioning
guys in the backfield?

651
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,960
Because y'all know that's a
separation creator and that's

652
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,720
moving guys.
That's the safeties looking.

653
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:18,160
Wait a second, where'd he just
go?

654
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,000
Well, he just came off the left
side.

655
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,400
Oh, I'm in cover too.
I got to see where he is because

656
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,840
if he comes back up the scene,
he's probably coming into my

657
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,880
zone.
It's like we're not doing

658
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,600
schematic things that could open
guys up that could make getting

659
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,520
separation easier.
And to me that goes back to

660
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,520
Tyler Bowen.
Like, dude, these things are

661
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,000
easy.
And if they're not working, if

662
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,640
they've got it figured out, then
you put it back in the lunch,

663
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,240
you put it back in the playbook
and say I'm not going to do that

664
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,320
today.
But that's what irritates me

665
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,240
because when I see a pocket roll
for a semi mobile quarterback,

666
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,160
oh, and they break 06 yards.
Well, now it's third and two,

667
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,560
that defense is all in a bond,
right?

668
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:58,280
What are they going to do?
They're going to run facial,

669
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,320
they're going to run Chiron.
They're going to run some little

670
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,400
pass.
They're going to take a deep

671
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,240
shot.
You know, they're going they're

672
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:06,040
going to run a little screen.
Everything's open.

673
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:09,960
And we're not doing that.
We're effectively not putting

674
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,520
ourselves in good situations
like that and it's irritating.

675
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,480
Yeah.
I mean, I think when we look at

676
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,640
the motion, I, I think that, you
know, we've talked about it.

677
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,160
Bowen has done a really good job
with motion to scheme for

678
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,480
certain plays.
But I, I, I would like to see

679
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,160
him being, being a little more
consistent with how we use

680
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:38,760
motion to isolate guys in, in
favorable matchups to, to just,

681
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,280
you know, to just move the
sticks.

682
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,240
I feel like we, we do a good job
on those kind of those big

683
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,960
plays, those, those, those plays
where we're going to get chunk

684
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,600
plays, but we don't use motion
really well just to get a guy 5

685
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,720
or 6 yards.
And you could.

686
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,320
And I and I think that's where,
where, where there could be some

687
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,160
improvement.
That's it right there.

688
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,560
That's it right there.
It's the little small gains that

689
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,920
instead of making it third and
eight, it's third and two or

690
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,480
third and three and then
everything's open.

691
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,360
And and you all both know it's
like because we as fans just

692
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,400
say, what are they going to do?
And they just going to run a

693
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,960
little zone read option.
They just going to run off

694
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,520
tackle inside zone, power run.
Everything's open and the

695
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,720
defense got to guess.
And if defense screws up and

696
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:27,960
guesses on our team and I know
we're not always pumping them

697
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,600
up, but if you screw up and mess
around with our team and

698
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,000
somebody gets it and there's
nobody there, it's not a 10 yard

699
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,040
gain, it's 30, it's 40 or it's a
house call and then you sit over

700
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,280
here right now we're down.
All right, let me let me get off

701
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,600
that because I can go on
forever.

702
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,280
This was bad.
Now it seems better tally

703
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,040
throughout the game, tech techs
and X back on the sideline

704
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,080
exert.
Then I saw the Tooting play and

705
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,040
it was just like oh God here we
go again.

706
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,560
But if y'all didn't get to hear
it and prize presser, I know we

707
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,440
were trying to listen to it
while we were working.

708
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Both are probable.
And did y'all see the J Lane

709
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,200
interview?
Yeah, yeah, I've seen the clip

710
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,120
from it.
Did you?

711
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,760
See.
Go ahead, Tally.

712
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,880
And for those who haven't seen
it, what J Lane said about Basil

713
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,600
Thuden.
He did pretty much said he was a

714
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,440
drama queen whenever he gets
hurt and that he will be fine.

715
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,280
He'd be ready to go.
So you know, it's just a team

716
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,080
thing, man.
They, you know, they talk to

717
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,200
each other all the time, They
seeing each other all the time.

718
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,480
So you know, they won't they
want their brother to be out

719
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,840
there ready to play.
But you know, there is something

720
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,840
that you still got to worry
about because if he if he is a

721
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,640
little GIMP, you know what I'm
saying, he's going to get nicked

722
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,600
up in the game.
You know, you got to find some

723
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,040
ways to, you know, protect him
and also, you know, when you

724
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,640
have a ankle sprain or something
like that, you know it it could

725
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,480
cause you not to have the same
burst that you have without

726
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:58,480
having that ankle sprain.
So something to keep an eye on.

727
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,320
But even more than that, which
is really important.

728
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,840
You know, X has got nicked up a
lot.

729
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,120
You know, it's not just been one
thing that you can pick or two

730
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:13,120
things like, you know, shoulder
knee, one game, ankle one game.

731
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,640
So that's a big man, you know
what I'm saying?

732
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,000
Every time he goes down, you
like, oh Lord, because it's a

733
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,280
big, He's a big piece of the big
piece of the puzzle that we need

734
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,560
to move forward and be good.
Yeah, and I mean, we talked

735
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,880
about the, you know, the the PFF
grades there and he didn't have

736
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,360
good Pratt Pass programs in this
in this particular matchup.

737
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,360
And you know, some of that can
be attributed to pretty much

738
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,920
having a a bum shoulder for the
majority of the snaps he saw in

739
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,840
that game.
But you know, to me, Pride

740
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,480
coming out and saying two
players are probable to play

741
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,880
means they're playing because
Pride is very, he's very

742
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480
forthcoming with a lot of
things, but he is rarely

743
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,080
forthcoming with the status of a
player that is injured.

744
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,520
So if he's being forthcoming
with that, then they're playing.

745
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,480
This is true.
Very true.

746
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,160
All right.
Let's wrap this up real quick.

747
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,440
Kind of put the last two
questions back-to-back.

748
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,360
Brian, anything that you weren't
prepared for Saturday while

749
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,960
looking at tape during the game?
I know you were doing some

750
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,840
things.
I thought we would win more in

751
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,400
the receiving game.
I thought it was going to be a

752
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:29,360
similar situation to like we saw
against Stanford where you know

753
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,720
they might load the box.
They already have a pretty good

754
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,920
rush defense, but we'll be able
to take advantage of some of

755
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,320
what they do in the secondary,
and for a variety of reasons

756
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,040
that just never came to fruition
outside of a handful of plays.

757
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,080
All right, tally anything you
want purple because you watched

758
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,400
it in live in color with your
shirt off.

759
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,880
Walk around the house.
Yeah, I mean, pretty much what

760
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,960
Brian said that when you talk
about the passing game, but I'll

761
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,080
go a little bit step farther.
Like I wasn't prepared for us to

762
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,440
not be productive in the passing
game like I thought we would be

763
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,040
and still win the game by two,
two touchdowns.

764
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,760
You know what I'm saying?
Like that was pretty impressive.

765
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,880
I guess you can play because I
talked to Chris a lot, you know,

766
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,480
shout out to Chris Lester, my
guy.

767
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,160
And we talked about like this
was going to be the game where

768
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,160
they were going to load the box,
we were going to have to throw

769
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,560
the ball and going to make Kyron
beat us with his arm and we beat

770
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,440
him about two touchdowns.
Still wasn't as effective as I

771
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,280
thought we would be or needed to
be, but still 1:21 to 6:00 so I

772
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,720
wouldn't prepare for that.
Yeah, gritty, gritty win for a

773
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:43,200
team that under pride hasn't had
a ton of wins like that.

774
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,920
Right?
So still.

775
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,840
Double digits, but it didn't
feel double digits.

776
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,800
No, it was, it was a, it was a
very tightly contested game

777
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,320
despite like I said, having the
the arm's length lead for for

778
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,400
the majority of that game.
So yeah, I agree with you,

779
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,920
Tally.
All right, y'all heard mine a

780
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,680
little earlier.
It's just the defensive snap

781
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,200
counts because a lot of young
guys getting involved, the

782
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,160
rotations getting heavier,
Burgos playing a lot, Nelson

783
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,200
playing a lot Ace and Steven
getting 10 snaps APR, the

784
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,280
defensive tackles keeping that
rotation.

785
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,040
That's what I love to see
because as the season gets on,

786
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,480
especially the defense,
everybody gets nicked.

787
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,440
And now it's that point where if
you see Aeson Stevens in like he

788
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,160
got 10 steps, but if you see him
pop in, it's like it's all

789
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,760
right.
He he can get things done.

790
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,600
He's been in there for 10 steps
and you call his name at least

791
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,160
two times in those ten snaps.
I mean, he's making his presence

792
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,520
felt within those 10 plays.
Yep, all.

793
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,800
Right.
What can we do better moving

794
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,800
forward?
Jonathan Talley.

795
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,920
Passing game we got to do, we
got to make that passing game

796
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,800
better, whether that's getting,
you know, separation or that's,

797
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,480
you know, hitting those crossing
routes or if that's calling some

798
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,440
like everything in the passing
and we got to do it better.

799
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,040
I mean, you got to have an
identity, but you can't be A1

800
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,840
dimensional team and and win
these last four games.

801
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,000
You know, we don't need all
hands on deck.

802
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,160
So we got to get that passing
game moving, you know, in the

803
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,920
right direction.
Ron.

804
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:19,120
We've got to start connecting on
some of those deep one-on-one

805
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:25,120
opportunities because you you
can get yourself out of some

806
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,040
stacked boxes if you start
making defenses pay for that.

807
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,240
And I think we did a better job
of that last year than we've

808
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:35,160
done at any point this year.
I think scheme wise, we've hit

809
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,280
some big plays this year.
I don't think we went out there

810
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,560
and won a ton of one-on-one
matchups with the deep ball down

811
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,720
the field.
All right, there we go there and

812
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:49,000
mine is just keep finishing,
keep finishing, drive in the red

813
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,800
zone, keep finishing like we did
at the end, keep finishing teams

814
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,480
off on 3rd and 4th down.
Because if you keep doing that

815
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,880
effectively, you break teams
wills when you do that, when you

816
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,200
keep scoring touchdowns or would
they get inside the red zone?

817
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,560
They can't score or they kick
field goals.

818
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,560
You, you, you just kind of see
it on people's faces in their

819
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,560
hearts.
It's like, man, we just they're

820
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,200
going to get in or we ain't
getting in.

821
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,520
And and that's one of those
things it builds confidence when

822
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,360
you see the D confidence that
the other team has.

823
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,080
All righty, as you all know, we
are brought to you by the counts

824
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,000
family pharmacy, your friendly
neighborhood pharmacy, three O 1

825
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,240
S Main St. in Blacksburg.
Let's get over.

826
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,480
Let's get to know the enemy and
let's talk about the Syracuse

827
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,880
Orange man current record of
five and two.

828
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,000
And we do want to start with
their offensive side of the

829
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,720
ball.
And Brian, this offense is led

830
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:49,040
by Jeff Nixon and Co OC Michael
Johnson.

831
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,880
Give us a little info on these
two guys.

832
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:55,320
Yeah, it's very much a, it's a
spread offense.

833
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,720
I mean you're getting A and it's
a throw first offense.

834
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:01,240
It's very it's kind of air raid
esque, but they definitely throw

835
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:03,680
the ball down feel a little bit
more than you would be used to

836
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:08,000
in an air raid concept there.
They care a lot more about just

837
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,560
getting those the ball in those
playmakers hands and they do

838
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,320
about any sort of offensive
balance.

839
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:19,240
I mean it it's basically a 6535
pass to to run there and at

840
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:21,120
times it doesn't even feel like
that.

841
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,160
They are very much a a pass
first offense and it starts and

842
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,800
ends with Kyle McCord.
All right, Callie, let's get

843
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,160
some background on McCord
because I think most people know

844
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,080
him.
Oh, Kyle McCord transferred in

845
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:41,280
from Ohio State.
He is a New Jersey kid, I

846
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:46,200
believe, had some good offers
coming out of high school.

847
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,720
High 4 star, I think 92 was
about where he was at.

848
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,080
Came in highly, you know, in the
transport portal, highly, highly

849
00:47:54,080 --> 00:48:00,480
ranked, came to Syracuse.
And for the most part, you know,

850
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,200
he's been effective this year.
He's kind of been AI don't know

851
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,000
a tale of two years, two halves
for him.

852
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,720
I heard early in the season how
great he was.

853
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,760
But then I also heard later in
the season was, see, there he

854
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,640
is.
That's why you know, he had to

855
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,960
leave Ohio State because he
couldn't make stuff work with

856
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,560
those wide receivers he had
there.

857
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,840
He never going to be able to
make it work.

858
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,400
So anyway, stat wise, we know he
has 19 touchdowns and 11

859
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,240
interceptions.
How many came last Thursday?

860
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,920
Say. 5506 was it 5 or 655 and
1:00?

861
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,920
Three of them were picked.
Six of the pick now I will say

862
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,000
this and I'll let you know
Brian, get into it a little bit.

863
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,560
I've learned to try to, you
know, go week by week with these

864
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,120
talking about teams and looking
at teams.

865
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,760
And also I try to just wait till
we're getting ready to play them

866
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,640
because I heard that this team
was Syracuse at the beginning of

867
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,800
the season, same as Georgia
Tech.

868
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,200
All they're going to kill us
all.

869
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,160
They're just so talented.
They this well, I'm looking at

870
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,160
their record.
I've never paid attention to it.

871
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:12,120
Syracuse played Ohio beat them
38 to 22.

872
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:19,840
Georgia Tech beat them 31 to 28.
Stanford lost to them. 2624 Holy

873
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:27,320
Cross, 42 to 14, UNLV, they won
44 to 41 in overtime.

874
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,440
North Carolina State, they beat
them 24 to 17.

875
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:40,120
And then Pitt, they got Skull
Drug 41 to 13, which so again,

876
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,040
you kind of see, like, of
course, every team's different,

877
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,840
every week's different.
But I think Pitt's defense was

878
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,960
something more than Syracuse has
seen this season.

879
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,040
You know, even Georgia Tech
being a solid team early in the

880
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,960
season, their defense ain't on
the level that pits is.

881
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,640
I don't think they defense on
the level ours is.

882
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,960
So I'll go right there.
Brian, what you think about Mr.

883
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,920
McCord?
Yeah.

884
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,880
I mean, you kind of said it.
And I mean, when we look at what

885
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,320
he does, he's really a pocket
oriented gunslinger.

886
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,400
He's got some athletic ability,
but he's not a guy that's going

887
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,920
to take off and run
consistently.

888
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,080
That's not his bread and butter.
He's the guy that's going to

889
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,440
sling it from the the pocket
there.

890
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,320
And I emphasize gunslinger in
the Brett Favre sense of the

891
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,880
word, that it's either going to
be something big or it's going

892
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,720
to be an interception.
Anything can happen.

893
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:42,880
Literally he throws on the run
pretty well, but again, still

894
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,240
less of a threat to kind of take
off in that aspect.

895
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,520
And and from a arm talent
standpoint, I mean, he can make

896
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,440
all the throws, but he is risky
with the football.

897
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,440
You know, in the pit game, you
look at that three of those

898
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,520
interceptions, all three of the
ones that were pick sixes were

899
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,400
bad throws.
Not not, not not throws that you

900
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,320
should be making in those
situations.

901
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,360
You got, you got to be smarter
with the football there.

902
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,680
You know, he had a couple that
were just, you know, tip balls

903
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,920
probably probably shouldn't have
taken the risk, but it, it was a

904
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,120
calculated 1 and things just
went the other way.

905
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,400
But we're going to get some
opportunities to, to have the

906
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,480
ball go in our direction with,
with Common Core throwing the

907
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,760
ball.
But he is going to make our guys

908
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:34,360
cover, you know, 5 receivers
6570% of the time.

909
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,520
So we're going to have to be
ready.

910
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,080
We're going to have to take
tackles because they're going to

911
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,560
want to get that ball in the
open space.

912
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,920
That last three games, do you
know how many times he's threw

913
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,400
the ball?
How?

914
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,400
Many.
Against Pitt, he threw the ball

915
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:57,800
64 times, Against North Carolina
State he threw the ball 42 times

916
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,080
and against UNLV they went into
overtime, he threw the ball 63

917
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,920
times.
I can't believe his arm mate

918
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,600
fell off.
That ain't that's just the last

919
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:11,920
three.
I ain't even going into the

920
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,040
other games.
Lord have mercy.

921
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,720
Lord have mercy.
Well, hold on, let let me do

922
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:19,080
something real quick here
because I guess I'm up to look.

923
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,040
So that's like 160 times.
He threw it 42 when they lost to

924
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,880
Stanford.
Who was 42 and they lost to

925
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,160
Stanford.
And hold on, I got it up here.

926
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,600
I'm going to talk about in a
second couple of the guys Brian

927
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,320
picked out to say we got to talk
about these two guys who he

928
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,400
throws to cause sort of the
whole thing.

929
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,600
He's went 364 in seven game, 346
in seven games.

930
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,440
He's throwing the ball 50 * a
game.

931
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,520
Karen.
Damn, T he going to throw it 50

932
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,800
times?
Yeah, that's if they win or they

933
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,480
lose.
So let's talk about a couple

934
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,800
guys he's throwing to.
I want to talk about Brian, the

935
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,560
first one here because he's
listed as a tight end, but you

936
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,760
know, sometimes they lie because
he was listed on 247 as a wide

937
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,680
receiver.
Ron Gadsden, the second out of

938
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,240
American Heritage down to Fort
Lauderdale, was a 84 when he

939
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:16,240
came out.
So a low three star, even though

940
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:22,280
his dad was a NFL wide receiver
on the Dolphins for five seasons

941
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,880
back in the late 90s.
Two thousands.

942
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,920
So obviously he's got a
bloodline there so far this

943
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,840
season, 35 catches for 466
yards.

944
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,160
His Big Bang game was against
UNLV.

945
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:40,960
He went 10 for 1:42 and a for 10
for 142.

946
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:44,880
Big piece about him right now.
He's got only three touchdowns

947
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,560
this year in those seven games.
So Brian, he's 65.

948
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,960
He's about 2:15.
Tell me what to do with him.

949
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,640
Yeah, I mean, he's he's
definitely the classic Joker

950
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,520
tight end.
Yeah, he's not going to, you

951
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,200
know, be a guy that's, you know,
running a quick hitch or or a

952
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,080
huge red zone threat.
But he is a guy that will run

953
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,560
the seam in the wheel with
regularity.

954
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,760
He's a guy that they'll use on
those quick hitters.

955
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,320
So I don't know if we'll see, I
don't know if we'll see that

956
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,080
that damn RPO to the tight end
like we've seen every other team

957
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,120
run against us in the last
month.

958
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,680
But he has the capability of
turning that into a, you know,

959
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,960
pretty, pretty good play there.
Yeah.

960
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,640
So he's the guy that we're going
to to to keep our eyes on.

961
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,160
Like I said, I'm more worried
about him up the sea and on

962
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,680
those wheel routes than I am
necessarily doing anything near

963
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,200
the red zone.
All right, got that noted.

964
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,800
All right.
Next guy I want to talk about is

965
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,240
a guy by the name of Jackson
Meeks.

966
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,840
And Charlie, I'm on pivot to you
in just a second before Brian

967
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,360
jumps on him.
Jackson Meeks, originally a

968
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:04,720
recruit to Georgia back in the
year 2021 Central High School,

969
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:12,760
Phoenix City, Alabama, and so
far this season, 43 catches, 512

970
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,360
yards, 4 touchdowns.
He's got the last five, excuse

971
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,560
me, the last six games, well, we
have been over 8 plus

972
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:28,400
receptions, 2 / 10 of those,
2110 for 161 against Holy Cross.

973
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,160
That makes sense that he
absolutely torched NC State 11

974
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,360
for 1/16 and a touchdown tally.
Let's get a little bit of

975
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,280
background on him.
Phoenix City and Central, What

976
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,720
type of program is that down
there?

977
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:41,000
A.
Beast.

978
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,160
Everybody who's good from
Alabama comes from now.

979
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,240
I'm pretty sure there are 7A
schools, so biggest in the state

980
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:54,600
of Alabama.
They continue to pump out talent

981
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,920
every year.
I can't remember the name, but

982
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:03,800
Auburn's freshman wide receiver
that they got last year, he

983
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,880
looks like Megatron.
He came from Central Central.

984
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,840
Phoenix City played basketball
as well.

985
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,760
I'll find his name here in a
minute.

986
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:17,040
But yeah, Phoenix City is always
a great school, always very,

987
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,840
very talented in every sport.
But definitely they're bread and

988
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,200
butter football like they
that's, that's what they do

989
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,080
that.
So anybody coming from that

990
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,080
program is usually pretty
talented.

991
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:33,840
All right, Brian, would you see
on film?

992
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,800
Yeah, I mean, he's there.
Definitely their best all around

993
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,240
wide receiver.
He can do a little bit of

994
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:41,280
everything.
He can move the sticks.

995
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,160
He can catch him down the field
really good at at high point the

996
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,720
ball and uses his size to kind
of get that position on those

997
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,120
deep balls down the field or in
in those stick moving

998
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,880
situations.
So really got we got to kind of

999
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,400
look at in all aspects of his
game because he can definitely

1000
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,520
beat you a bunch of different
ways.

1001
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,360
All righty tell who we were
looking at next.

1002
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,520
We'll go to Lapointe Allen, the
running back.

1003
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:14,080
He was a three star coming out
of high school, New Jersey kid

1004
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,960
didn't have a ton of offers.
You know it have UVA in there,

1005
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:25,640
Temple, Rutgers, Syracuse.
So ended up going to Syracuse.

1006
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,280
He's a 2022 kid.
He so he's a junior.

1007
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:38,680
He's got about 109 carries this
year for 481, so 4 touchdowns.

1008
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,000
So that's what the stats that we
have on him.

1009
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,840
Brian, what kind of film do you
have on him?

1010
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,440
Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll
make a note here.

1011
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,600
He's 3rd on the team in
receptions right now.

1012
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,360
I'd say he's a threat as a
runner and a receiver.

1013
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,440
I, I, I'd consider him just
probably a little bit more of a

1014
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,400
receiving threat than than as a
runner.

1015
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,840
You know, he's a, he's a, I'd
say an average ACC running back,

1016
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,160
but he's a very good receiving
threat, really good to the

1017
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,920
screen game and in space.
And he catches just like a, a

1018
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,000
wide receiver.
So he's got really good hands.

1019
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,200
All righty, Brian, one last
piece to flip on.

1020
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,280
Let's talk about the offensive
line.

1021
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,200
You know, what did you see on
tape that any numbers

1022
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,640
specifically stand out to you?
I mean, they they surrender a

1023
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,600
lot of sacks.
Good.

1024
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,520
We can.
We can sack this, we can sack

1025
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,960
this quarterback especially.
They struggled a lot with elite

1026
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,040
edges one-on-one and they
struggle a lot when you bring

1027
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,360
some pressure packages.
So we should be able to get to

1028
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,360
the backfield.
The questions going to be do we

1029
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,520
get home?
Are they going to try to get rid

1030
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,360
of the ball quickly?
Are they are we going to let

1031
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,760
them get open quickly in the
snap?

1032
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,400
That's really going to be, you
know, whether or not we struggle

1033
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,320
with this offense is whether or
not we can get pressure on

1034
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,920
McCord with with regularity.
And y'all wondering how bad they

1035
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,000
are?
They are 97th in sacks allowed,

1036
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,120
about 2 1/2 per game.
And obviously we played

1037
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,160
Stanford.
We know Stanford's fast rush is

1038
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,800
not what it is.
Pitt usually has 1.

1039
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,960
And I have to go look up at
those numbers.

1040
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,400
But just kind of look here,
Brian, you said the tackle

1041
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,760
struggle and it does show that
they're two highest tackles City

1042
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,800
on Washington, Demetrius
Witherspoon, they both get over

1043
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,760
500 snaps.
You do the mathematics in seven

1044
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,360
games.
That makes sense that they're

1045
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:44,040
pretty much the starters.
Washington 62 graded in pass

1046
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,680
block in Witherspoon, you know,
67.

1047
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,400
So not that elite where you want
to be.

1048
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,840
When you look at the competition
they played, that's more of the

1049
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,920
issue there.
It's who you played.

1050
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,320
Y'all should be easily in the
70s.

1051
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,560
You're in the 60s and you have
not played an elite pass rusher

1052
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,040
and we.
And as soon as they ramped it up

1053
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,920
last week, we saw what the fuck
happened.

1054
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,720
You went on mute, Curtis.
Can you hear me now on mute?

1055
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,440
Yes, Sir.
Oh man, it didn't messed up

1056
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,720
Umamento.
I'm back.

1057
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,800
He broke it.
Maybe I'm not.

1058
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:32,440
Yeah, you're good, You're good.
I don't know, it's, it's all

1059
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,760
jacked up with me.
All right, So this thing just

1060
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,320
has a mind of its own.
Let's go over to the defensive

1061
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:45,720
side of the ball led by Elijah
Robinson and Robert Wright.

1062
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,200
I know I read earlier this week
that Robinson is the play

1063
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,560
caller.
Brian, what kind of scheme are

1064
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,240
they looking at here?
Yes, it's a familiar one here,

1065
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,440
buddy.
It's a 425 very pressure

1066
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,400
oriented scheme.
They mix up their their their

1067
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,040
pressures a lot.
They're they're very much not a

1068
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,200
predictable team.
They're not just going to blitz

1069
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,840
on obvious downs.
They're going to confuse you.

1070
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,240
They're going to bring bring
pressure from different levels.

1071
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,680
They can bring pressure on
different down and distances.

1072
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,520
So they're going to keep you on
your toes a little bit with how

1073
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:22,480
they attack an offensive line.
All right, Tally who you got up

1074
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,520
first because I, I, I know you,
you're addressing what always

1075
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,760
worries you with teams.
Mr. Fidel digs a big time

1076
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,360
recruit coming out of high
school, you know, pretty much a

1077
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:42,960
five star, you know, 4 star high
4*5* player transferred in from

1078
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:48,200
Texas A&M to Syracuse this this
year.

1079
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:54,200
Again, big time player had all
the offers, all the SEC schools

1080
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,080
and he's he's, he's a solid
player.

1081
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,480
Been, you know, going to be a
nightmare for somebody coming

1082
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,240
off the edge, which Brian
probably would be a nightmare

1083
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:06,920
for somebody coming off the
edge.

1084
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,600
No disrespect to Brian, but I'm
just saying we got to do some

1085
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,320
things that's going to
neutralize him because he can

1086
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,760
cause some problems.
Probably what you got on Mr.

1087
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,520
Deeds.
Yeah, I mean his initial step,

1088
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:24,120
he's really good off the snap,
probably not elite from a

1089
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:30,160
complete Rep standpoint, but
really good get off really

1090
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,400
strong hands, can use those to
kind of get get tackles off

1091
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,040
balance.
Shed shed the blocker there, but

1092
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,680
when he gets home he's a pretty
good tackler.

1093
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,400
He he he definitely has a a
tendency when he gets there he's

1094
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,720
going to get you on the ground.
So he's going to be a handful

1095
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,440
and and hopefully a certain
somebody doesn't see a whole lot

1096
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:56,600
of him he's.
Got 4 sacks as well. 8 1/2

1097
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,840
tackles for loss, too, and he's
got like 30 tackles in general.

1098
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,960
So it shows a little bit of a
motor from the end position.

1099
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,760
So he is definitely somebody we
have to keep an eye on it.

1100
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,880
We've got to neutralize.
You tell me he's got one sack or

1101
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,440
less.
I will feel good about Saturday.

1102
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,320
Honestly, I'd feel great about
Saturday.

1103
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,840
All right, I'm gonna go to the
back end, Brian, because they've

1104
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:25,360
got a pretty damn good
cornerback there by the name of

1105
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,360
Clarence Lewis.
Clarence is from New Jersey.

1106
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,600
He went to Maitre-d' high school
in Middletown.

1107
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,680
The class of 2020, initially
went to Notre Dame.

1108
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,400
Now coming out not looked as a
high star recruit, just an 87.

1109
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,960
So kind of in that middle range
there.

1110
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,400
But you know, you take a look at
what he's done so far in just a

1111
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:51,040
few seasons or in, excuse me, in
this season at Syracuse, so far,

1112
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,280
16 tackles.
He's already got a pick.

1113
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,560
He's got 5 past deflections in
seven games.

1114
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,520
That tells me he's keeping an
eye on things.

1115
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,960
He goes and gets it.
His career at Notre Dame where

1116
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,560
effectively he played four full
seasons.

1117
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:11,080
So this is his COVID season
while he was there. 3 picks

1118
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,640
along with 18 past deflections
in Four Seasons.

1119
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,680
Obviously he would have solved
some of these Hokies way back.

1120
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:24,920
It would have been what, 2021
when he was a true sophomore

1121
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,120
there?
If y'all can remember, we played

1122
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,880
them because he did play in all
13 games.

1123
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:35,760
Don't remind me of that game.
I'm just saying he's seen some

1124
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,520
people on this team, not many of
them, but some of them.

1125
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:39,840
But what?
What's he got, Brian?

1126
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,960
Yeah, he's a very, very strong
zone coverage cornerback.

1127
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,640
Really good at reading routes,
anticipating throws.

1128
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,560
When it comes to man coverage,
I'd, I'd give him an average

1129
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,040
grade.
He's really good.

1130
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:59,920
Kind of early in the in the snap
we look at things like double

1131
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:02,200
moves or tracking the ball deep
down field.

1132
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,920
That's where he struggles at
times.

1133
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,720
You know, you can get some
penalties on him, you can get

1134
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,040
beat.
He doesn't really do a good job

1135
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,720
of tracking the ball and going
and get it in the air that way.

1136
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,920
But when it comes to breaking on
a ball in those short to

1137
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,800
intermediate zones, that's where
he's really strong all.

1138
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:27,640
Righty Valley, we got one more
gentleman to look at who was our

1139
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,040
last contestant with Know the
Enemy.

1140
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,120
Yeah.
So Mr. Justin Baron, he's a

1141
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,720
senior.
Many thought he was going to go

1142
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,040
in the draft last year, but he
ended up coming back, I think

1143
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:45,840
for his fifth year to try to put
on and do something special at

1144
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:50,480
Syracuse.
He's a 64225 back there in

1145
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:56,920
defensive back this year.
Looks like he is got about 25.

1146
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:05,120
I'm sorry, 42 tackles, 25 of
them are solo tackles, one INT.

1147
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,040
He was about a three star player
coming out of high school.

1148
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,680
Had a couple of offers from some
ACC schools, Boston College

1149
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,360
being one of them.
And of course, Syracuse is where

1150
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,080
he went.
So yeah, it looks solid back

1151
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,480
there.
Looks like a, you know, physical

1152
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,560
specimen.
Brian, what you got on when you

1153
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,240
see tape?
Yeah.

1154
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,120
And, and he's kind of been a guy
that's moved in different spots

1155
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,800
on this defense as we've gotten
into the season.

1156
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,040
He's kind of settled in an
outside linebacker despite

1157
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,120
having that defensive back
pedigree.

1158
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,440
So he's kind of that converted
safety, played outside

1159
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,960
linebacker, Rover and free at
various points in his career

1160
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,800
with Syracuse.
Good tackler, you know, above

1161
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,400
average quickness, what you
would expect from a safety, but

1162
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,400
you know, much like that he can
get swallowed when he's inside

1163
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,080
of the box.
They're a little undersized

1164
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:03,800
overall and doesn't have a ton
of experience playing in the box

1165
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:08,280
between the tackles all.
Righty, so there are three guys

1166
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,040
we are looking at this week.
I'm going to throw another name

1167
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,920
to your cuz we're probably going
to hear his name a lot Saturday

1168
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,720
just because of where he plays
Mike linebacker Derek McDonald,

1169
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,680
48 total tackles Ty with bearing
for the lead.

1170
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,800
He is in the middle of that
defense.

1171
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,640
So if you hear that name a lot,
don't be shocked.

1172
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,800
But y'all, let's let's go over
we.

1173
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,160
We know what they do.
We know they do have some

1174
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,600
weapons.
We do see some things we do and

1175
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,520
don't like, but let's talk about
what our keys to this victory

1176
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,200
are.
Tally and we'll let you get up

1177
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,240
to the plate 1st and Smash 1
here.

1178
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:49,600
Yeah, so let me see, Keys to
Victory for me is going to be

1179
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,440
secondary.
You got to earn your reputation.

1180
01:07:53,800 --> 01:08:00,960
You know, we got a all ACC all
American cornerback back there

1181
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,600
and Dorian Strong.
Well, guess what buddy?

1182
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,680
You going to get your
opportunity to wear that satchel

1183
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,160
with some pride this week
because they're probably going

1184
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,920
to drop back and throw the ball
50 times.

1185
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,439
I think defensive lines don't
try to get to the quarterback.

1186
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,520
He's going to get the
opportunity to pick something

1187
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,479
off.
You know, we got to know what we

1188
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:23,920
doing.
Hey, let's take one to the

1189
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,560
house, man.
Let's say we want to be DBU.

1190
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,439
Let's just be DBU.
So that's what I'm saying.

1191
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,080
Secondary, you don't have to
earn your stripes this week.

1192
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,600
All righty, Brian, what about
you?

1193
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,760
No slow starts on offense.
Get Kyron comfortable early.

1194
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,840
Establish the line of scrimmage
with the run game.

1195
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,840
Get out there, score a
touchdown, get some points on

1196
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,479
the board.
Put the pressure on that

1197
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:55,800
Syracuse offense to have to keep
pace with us from an offensive

1198
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,279
standpoint.
All right, we will have Sheldon

1199
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,040
here this week.
Shelton actually went on the

1200
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,680
inactive list very early today.
1 going to be able to make it.

1201
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,600
Shelton, we miss you as always
this week and I know you hate

1202
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,160
this stat, but I think it's when
we've got to live by.

1203
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,680
The mantra is it's going to be
money downs on both sides of the

1204
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,040
football.
So at converting third downs,

1205
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,520
Syracuse is 6 in the country.
They convert almost half of

1206
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:27,479
their third downs. 3rd down
defense.

1207
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,680
They ain't too shabby as well.
They are the 12th ranked third

1208
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:36,520
down defense in the country with
teams converting less than 30%

1209
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:40,800
on them.
So there's two ways about this

1210
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,120
right?
Offense, Don't ever get to 3rd

1211
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,479
down.
Get it on 1st and 2nd.

1212
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,040
Don't ever get to 3rd down.
Don't let us strength defense

1213
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:55,880
upfront.
APR Peebles, all y'all go eat,

1214
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,800
make the third downs damn near
impossible for them to get to.

1215
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:06,000
And when it's third and 10 and
3rd and 11 attacks attack finish

1216
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,440
at the quarterback.
But that is 2 of their

1217
01:10:08,440 --> 01:10:11,920
strengths.
So going to wrap that up.

1218
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,720
That's our three keys to
victory.

1219
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:19,200
And Brian, how do you see this
one playing out and what's your

1220
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,800
prediction for the game?
Yeah, I I think the Hokies stand

1221
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,840
this one.
I think it may end up being a

1222
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,160
little bit more of a grind than
we want it to be, but I think we

1223
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,400
get the job done.
At the end of the day, give me

1224
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:36,560
2721 Hokies.
All righty, I'm going to go next

1225
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,960
because Tally, you're
officially, you're officially in

1226
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:44,000
the clean up position for the
rest of the year rest.

1227
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,520
Of the year.
I'm also going to go Hokies on

1228
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,280
this one, especially once the
news with Chaplain and Tooting

1229
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,880
came out that they're likely
going to play, probably going to

1230
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:58,320
be playing through some pain.
We are Four Point Rd. favorites.

1231
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,560
That was the last time I
checked.

1232
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:00,960
I don't know if that's went up
or down.

1233
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,640
I was a little bit starting.
At 3 1/2 bumped up to four.

1234
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:04,800
I don't.
I don't think it's changed

1235
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,280
since.
I don't think it's changed since

1236
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:13,000
then, but I'm going to go 2823
and I think it's going to be the

1237
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,800
Syracuse is going to have their
own undoing.

1238
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,040
They're going to be at like the
15.

1239
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,960
It's going to be like 4th and
five would like 8 minutes to go

1240
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,040
and they go kick a field goal
and then we're going to bleed

1241
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,480
out the clock.
We're going to bleed out the

1242
01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:27,040
clock.
They will get the ball back with

1243
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,920
about 9 seconds left and Dorian
Strongs on get a pick to seal

1244
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,240
the game.
If all that happened.

1245
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,600
Curtis Curtis got a script.
Yeah, I'm going to say if all

1246
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,800
that happened, shit, we're going
to let Curtis go pick some

1247
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,440
numbers.
If all that happens, yeah,

1248
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,320
we'll, we'll be, we'll be going,
we'll be going to the grocery

1249
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,320
store and buying a lottery
ticket Saturday night.

1250
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,840
Yeah, exactly.
Well, hey, I got to stay true,

1251
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,640
man.
Bulletin board material.

1252
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,200
I'm going with QS, man.
I'm going with QS.

1253
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:02,760
I'm going to say QS 3521.
You know, I haven't seen us

1254
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,960
really win a close game yet.
A lot of people think it's going

1255
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,480
to be close.
And again, two of our losses

1256
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:14,640
have been on the road.
So they've been proving me wrong

1257
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,320
the last three games.
I mean they proved me wrong.

1258
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,400
I want them to continue proving
me wrong.

1259
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,400
Plaster me up on the in the in
the locker room and them ugly

1260
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:30,240
ass lockers y'all got and say we
going to prove this guy wrong

1261
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,040
again.
Oh nevermind, we going to their

1262
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,000
house so they lock us.
Might not be ugly, but our lock

1263
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,720
us is ugly.
Oh, that place.

1264
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,320
Is have have you seen the Dome?
You know them lock they you got

1265
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,960
to climb stairs to get them some
bitches that.

1266
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,080
Place, by the way, not a way.
And so we hadn't beat Georgia

1267
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:53,440
Tech at home in 12 years.
How long has it been since we

1268
01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:56,920
won in the Dome?
It's been too long, but we

1269
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,160
hadn't played a ton of them.
I played a ton of them, but do

1270
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:05,720
you do you know?
Probably 20.

1271
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:10,320
Go ahead.
I was gonna say 24 years. 24

1272
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:11,960
years.
I was going to take last week's

1273
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:17,000
12, multiply it by 224 years.
NB 7 was the quarterback.

1274
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:21,560
Yeah, yeah, it was 2000.
I was in high school.

1275
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,520
He was in high school.
He was in high school.

1276
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,600
That's how damn long it's been.
It's time.

1277
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,000
Curtis is just That's another
way for Curtis to call us old.

1278
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,440
The.
Whole thing about our podcast is

1279
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,280
we don't desire being old.
We don't go out there trying

1280
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,560
that young.
I think I was in middle school.

1281
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,560
Were you?
In middle school in 2000.

1282
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,800
Yeah, well, because the football
season would have been.

1283
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,680
Yeah, never mind, it'd be 20.
I was in high school because I

1284
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,040
graduated in O4.
I was thinking it would have

1285
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,760
been 99 and then, but now it's
the 2000 season.

1286
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,920
The 2000 season so there you got
pressure in high school I'm not

1287
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,920
seeing you in high school all
right let's move on as always,

1288
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,320
we have fun Brian, you didn't
send me the update, man.

1289
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,520
You didn't send me the update.
Send me the update.

1290
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,640
Hang on, hang on.
I don't even.

1291
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,600
I think I had a decent week.
I think I did all.

1292
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,720
Right, it's coming your way all.
Right, I'm looking forward now.

1293
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,000
We are trying to get Shelton's
prediction as well.

1294
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,560
Y'all Shelton again started his
new job last week.

1295
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:26,720
He's trying to find an
apartment.

1296
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,280
He's commuting back and forth.
He's doing all sorts of stuff.

1297
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,240
But there is the big screeners.
Let's get that tabulation up

1298
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:38,400
there, Brian, pop it up.
Week 10 big screeners last week,

1299
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:44,120
believe it or not, Brian,
Talley, Miranda, Jason all went

1300
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:48,520
500 along with Shelton.
Everybody went three and three

1301
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,840
except me four and two back in
the winning category.

1302
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,560
I am above 500.
I'm joining Brian there.

1303
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,120
Curtis is the band.
Curtis is the band.

1304
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,360
I hate the band.
I just, I just hit it right last

1305
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,000
week.
Yeah, you got those feelings.

1306
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,560
You just you go out, you bet
them you feel good about it and.

1307
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,920
Curtis.
Curtis is either, I mean looking

1308
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,920
at it, Curtis is either hitting
three or more right or like 1.

1309
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:19,880
Like, or if you ride with me, be
willing to burn because if it

1310
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,480
starts bad, you're usually going
to be up in flames before we

1311
01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:26,360
figure out anything.
All right, But we got big

1312
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,560
screeners.
Before we go to big screen,

1313
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,720
before we go to big screeners,
Yeah, Just want to ask.

1314
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:36,080
Yeah, besides our game, because
we got our game over with early.

1315
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,280
I was so happy.
Like, I'm OK, I'm OK with the

1316
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,920
because here's 11:00, watch our
game, we win, I'm having a great

1317
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,800
day.
What other games did y'all

1318
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,520
watch?
Because I'm going to tell you, I

1319
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:53,760
watched the Vanderbilt, Texas
game and I knew it was going to

1320
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,560
be a close game and Vandy almost
had a chance to pull that game

1321
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,720
off.
They did let me think.

1322
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,320
I watched the fourth quarter of
that game.

1323
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:08,320
I watched the early quarters of
the Alabama game blow out.

1324
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,360
I was all over the place.
I was watching mostly highlights

1325
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,720
other than our game because I
was on the road for most of that

1326
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:20,280
and I I didn't get back till
like almost 1030.

1327
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,960
I left at the start of the
fourth quarter for our game.

1328
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:29,360
So that's why Tally was clutch
coming through because ESPN had

1329
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,080
fucked up the game cast.
So you couldn't follow, you

1330
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,400
couldn't follow the game on the
on the app.

1331
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,040
I didn't have good enough
service to to stream it on my

1332
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,000
phone, so Tally came through in
the clutch and was giving me the

1333
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,400
giving us the play by play in
real time in the group chat so.

1334
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,120
Hey, the man, Hey the man.
We do it together.

1335
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,840
All right, so there's three.
I watched Tally and then at

1336
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,400
night I watched some of the
Miami, FL State game, the LSU,

1337
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:59,960
Texas A&M game, and then I
closed it out watching SMU, Duke

1338
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,120
and I, I ain't never seen
anything like y'all.

1339
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,960
You watching that game?
Duke didn't want to win they.

1340
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,200
Didn't.
They did not want to win the.

1341
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,960
Field goal and you.
I think SMU turned it over six

1342
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,640
times.
Six freaking times.

1343
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,560
Every time they got the ball,
they turned it over and Duke

1344
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,480
just couldn't win it.
I feel like we about to talk

1345
01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:24,640
about that a little bit here.
Yeah.

1346
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,080
Oh yeah, we got to talk about
that.

1347
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:31,000
We got to talk about that
because the first game up.

1348
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,320
Oh, by the way, there's another
one.

1349
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,200
Hold on, Did y'all watch the
game last Wednesday night?

1350
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:38,560
Tell me y'all watch the end of
it.

1351
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,960
Who wasn't Allstate Liberty?
No, I didn't watch it.

1352
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,640
I heard about.
It Kennesaw State is an FCS

1353
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:51,720
transitioning program to FBS.
They had not beaten an FBS team

1354
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,840
ever.
Ever.

1355
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,400
And they beat Liberty's ass.
It was such a glorious thing.

1356
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,800
Yeah, I think I threw the tweet
out there.

1357
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,680
I was like, Liberty fans talked
all that shit to lose the

1358
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,160
Kennesaw State on a Wednesday
night.

1359
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:09,120
An O and 16.
No one's 16 all right, but let's

1360
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,680
get to them big screeners,
Brian, right out the gate, huge

1361
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:18,000
ACC matchup.
Huge matchup for the Hokies if

1362
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,320
they are to make it to
Charlotte.

1363
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:23,320
Pitt and SMU, both undefeated
and ACC play.

1364
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,720
SMU effectively avoided that
bullet Saturday night because

1365
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,960
you couldn't find a guy to kick
a 22 yard field goal for the win

1366
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,760
and and then they didn't trust
him enough in overtime.

1367
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:39,400
They had to go for two.
And some of you laying 7 1/2.

1368
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,080
Brian, why'd you pick it and who
you got?

1369
01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:47,200
Yeah, I picked it because this
fucking matters from a Virginia

1370
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,040
Tech standpoint.
If we want to see Charlotte

1371
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:55,240
looking long term big picture
here, you know, we need to at

1372
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,760
this point probably win the
every remaining game on our

1373
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,960
schedule if we want to want to
go and and and play where we

1374
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,160
want to play.
Mainly because if you look at

1375
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,040
the remaining schedule for SMU,
they've got pit and then they

1376
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:11,240
got some mostly light work the
rest of the way.

1377
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:21,880
SMU schedule as far as a first
first time P4 ACC team is as

1378
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,120
cake as they could have lined it
up.

1379
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,000
Just looking at that big
picture, pit really going to be

1380
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,640
really the the biggest test
they're going to have in the

1381
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:38,840
entire slate of the ACCI know
it's at SMU but them getting 7

1382
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:45,080
1/2 is fucking wild to me.
So because honestly, SMU's wins

1383
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:51,040
haven't been that impressive.
So give me pit and I'm I'm

1384
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,280
picking pit here.
So y'all mark this on your

1385
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,360
calendars.
This is a red letter day that

1386
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:03,080
Brian Siegler has chosen Pitt in
any context because I will

1387
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:07,280
usually avoid that team like the
play. 100%, but you had it in

1388
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,600
this one because of the enormity
of the match up.

1389
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,920
Yeah, this this is where the
first of the dominoes have to

1390
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,000
fall for the Hokies to make it
in the Hokies or themselves.

1391
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:21,800
Obviously we got to win Saturday
afternoon at Syracuse, but we

1392
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,840
take care of that.
We need because by the way, this

1393
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,360
is who Pitt has left BC, not
even at BC.

1394
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,200
So they ain't got to travel a
long ways.

1395
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:32,840
They get to stay at home.
They don't have to play up in

1396
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:38,560
the cold.
They go to UVA and then they got

1397
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,040
Cal at home.
You talk about SMU.

1398
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:42,960
Yeah, SMU.
That's their last three

1399
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,520
opponents.
Oh, I thought you said Pitt.

1400
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,320
So that that's why I.
Was no, no, no.

1401
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,800
So I was saying this is their
hardest one.

1402
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,720
The the thing I will say if you
take a look, best defense SMU

1403
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,240
seen all year is BYU.
They held him to 15 points.

1404
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:04,320
Give me Pitt, give me the 7 1/2.
Pitt wins a game outright.

1405
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,440
Sheldon is riding with you and
me here, Curtis Tell.

1406
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,680
Tally what you.
Got I'm riding, I'm riding with

1407
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,320
Pitt too.
Our dudes are going if you give

1408
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,240
him, you give him the ball 6
times, he going to do something

1409
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,200
with it.
I don't like it, but if you turn

1410
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,080
that ball over six times, he
probably not losing.

1411
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:32,560
Go ask Syracuse.
Hey, true, true.

1412
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:37,480
Miranda is riding with SMU here,
and the man himself is riding

1413
01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:40,760
with us and Pitt.
Gentlemen, 5:00 to 1:00. 5 to

1414
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:41,720
one.
Yep.

1415
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:43,640
All righty Curtis, where are we
heading?

1416
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:49,480
We are heading to Death Valley,
South Carolina, Louisville

1417
01:21:49,480 --> 01:21:55,680
versus Clemson, Clemson laying
10 1/2 points here and I chose

1418
01:21:55,680 --> 01:22:00,480
this one obviously because I
know we've got to see.

1419
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,680
We've been probably all watching
Clemson a little bit as they've

1420
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,720
been getting closer and closer
to the game.

1421
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,720
This is one week before.
So obviously got to going to

1422
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,560
keep an eye out or we'll be
keeping an eye on this game.

1423
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:18,000
Louisville can score and we've
seen that numerous times.

1424
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,240
Louisville don't play much
defense and I think when they go

1425
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,320
down there, they're going to get
locked down defensively.

1426
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,840
I think Clemson is going to be
tuning up to get ready to come

1427
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,480
to Lane Stadium.
I think Clemson wins this one

1428
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:33,960
big.
They easily cover the 10 1/2.

1429
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,080
I think this is a blowout by 20
plus.

1430
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:41,480
I'm not seeing a blowout here,
but I am seeing a solid Clemson

1431
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:47,560
V14 to 17 points, so I'm riding
with you and the Tigers.

1432
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,560
Sheldon's riding with us too.
Tally you on board.

1433
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:56,080
Oh yeah, I got to go Clemson.
You know, Clemson's had a pretty

1434
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,000
easy schedule, man, besides
Georgia.

1435
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,640
I mean, they, they've been
pretty caked.

1436
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:04,560
So they do got to pay Pitt later
on.

1437
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,040
They play us and they do play
Pitt.

1438
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:11,120
But other than that, man,
they've kind of we'll when I say

1439
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,200
us, we'll see what us do.
But.

1440
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:14,600
They.
Had it pretty.

1441
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,120
They've had it pretty cake.
So we'll see how Clemson handles

1442
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:22,240
Louisville.
Regardless of how our game

1443
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:28,560
shakes out, you know they'll we
should still be top five, top

1444
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,320
six team in the conference.
So we'll still be in the top

1445
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,040
heavy end of the of the
conference.

1446
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,280
But hopefully we go ahead and
take care of business this week

1447
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:40,800
and we can actually have some to
to talk about next week with

1448
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:45,600
that Clemson game. 100% Miranda
and Jason.

1449
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,840
Everybody's riding Clemson
Queensland baby.

1450
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:53,000
And if y'all did not know the
clean suite losing streak

1451
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:57,880
snapped last week, it snapped
last week on the Vandy game.

1452
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,240
Yep, everybody pick Vandy.
Vandy snapped our streak.

1453
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,440
Mandy Damner won that thing out,
right?

1454
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:05,560
So that was crazy.
All righty.

1455
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:10,040
Next we have Shelton's pick.
North Carolina, Florida State.

1456
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,760
And as Shelton sent us the text
message of this game, this is

1457
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,760
effectively the toilet bowl of
the ACC.

1458
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:22,440
This year, we've got FSU getting
points at home getting 2 1/2

1459
01:24:22,440 --> 01:24:29,280
versus UNCUNC, whose defense has
been trash, Absolutely shut UVA

1460
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,440
down last week, which just makes
you shake your head.

1461
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:37,680
So Brian Sigler, where are you
going with this one?

1462
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,760
I think we're going to get
another Jeff Collins special.

1463
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,240
Give me UNCI don't like anything
that Florida State's doing.

1464
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:47,800
I don't know they they broke,
man.

1465
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,720
I don't know what the fuck
happened but they are broke.

1466
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,880
But you know what you just need
though?

1467
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,120
Every time something broke, they
just need somebody who has

1468
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,960
something more broken.
And I know they held UVA to 14,

1469
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,640
but that UNC defense has been
just like a paper bag, a wet

1470
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,720
paper bag.
Usually everybody's breaking

1471
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,480
through it.
I think this is FSU's biggest

1472
01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:16,040
win of the year.
They win, they get the points,

1473
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:20,880
FSU high scoring.
Be willing to maybe take the

1474
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,840
over on this one.
I don't know what it is I'll

1475
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,080
find.
Florida Stakes is going to is

1476
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,120
going to score points.
Florida State score.

1477
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,760
So OK, hold on, wait a second.
I'm I'm just do something real

1478
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,080
real quick here bro.
Over Under 28 points for Florida

1479
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:39,640
State's offense Over Under. 28
points over OK over over.

1480
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:52,160
UNC has given up ready 70344141
at some of their giving UPS.

1481
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,920
It don't matter Florida State
anything to score that all

1482
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:00,240
right, They can't catch.
They can't catch.

1483
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,000
They don't have a quarterback
out of three of them to rub

1484
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:07,120
together to make one.
Yeah, All right.

1485
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,920
Sheldon is riding with me.
Tally, we know who you riding

1486
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:16,320
with.
You just gave them away and that

1487
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:21,520
last two wonderful contributors,
North Carolina and Jason, we got

1488
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,120
a split family.
That that was I was most.

1489
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,200
This is the most unexpected
outcome.

1490
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,960
I was not expecting a a split on
this one.

1491
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,720
Me neither.
I thought, I thought this would

1492
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,840
lean UNC's way at least 4-2.
But you know what?

1493
01:26:36,480 --> 01:26:39,120
We move.
All right, Sally, where we

1494
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:43,200
going, man?
So next we're going to like,

1495
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:47,560
Curtis said, The big one, Ohio
State and Penn State.

1496
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,760
I hate Penn State, man.
I hate Ohio State, but I hate

1497
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,680
Penn State.
So there's.

1498
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:55,880
No rhyme of reason.
Yeah, there's no rhyme of

1499
01:26:55,880 --> 01:27:00,200
reason.
I'm just going to say Ohio

1500
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:07,760
State's going to win all.
Right, You know what, Penn State

1501
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:12,680
getting 3 1/2 at home just don't
quite sit sit well with me, I

1502
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:13,280
think.
Ohio.

1503
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:14,920
State do it Brian, don't do it
I.

1504
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,840
Think Ohio State pulls out the
West, but I'm going to Penn

1505
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:26,080
State here in that 3 1/2.
So welcome to Jonathan Talley's

1506
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,160
Player Hater Ball football game
of the week.

1507
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,840
Hate your whole family.
He hates everything about the

1508
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,360
school.
And listen, I, I think most of

1509
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,840
us that are hokey fans, we ain't
too big a fans at either of

1510
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,400
these schools either way.
But with that info that broke,

1511
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,280
and I don't know if this changed
your mind.

1512
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,920
Brian Drew a law is likely to be
a game time decision for Penn

1513
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,040
State.
He's playing, which means, well,

1514
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,120
he's going to play.
But when a guy has a game time

1515
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,280
decision, like not even like
he's going to practice and

1516
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,640
progress through it.
Like we going to figure out it

1517
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,760
and it's a 12:00 game, which by
the way, I'm going to say

1518
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,360
something.
As much as I hate them, I like

1519
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,000
seeing a night game at Penn
State.

1520
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,120
The white out.
It's cool.

1521
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:10,360
What is this game at 12:00?
Could y'all explain that to me?

1522
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,080
It's such stupid.
It's just stupidity.

1523
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,480
We got to stop.
You can't put the game of the

1524
01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:18,320
week at 12.
No.

1525
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,600
Not there's only a couple that
can happen with.

1526
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,640
I am always fine with the Red
River Shootout being at 12:00.

1527
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,520
That's fine.
I'm fine with some rivalry games

1528
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,160
being at 12:00.
This game should be a night

1529
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,120
game.
Fox, shame on you.

1530
01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:41,680
Ohio State by. 10 all right.
And I'm playing the points,

1531
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,640
Shelton.
Sheldon's riding with you.

1532
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,120
We already know what Tally's
doing.

1533
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:51,160
Miranda is riding and I am so
low.

1534
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,840
Brian Siegler versus the world,
hey.

1535
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:56,680
Bring it on, bitches.
Let's go.

1536
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,480
All right.
All righty, all righty.

1537
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:02,480
So our wonderful contributing
writer Miranda this week is

1538
01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:08,760
going down to Fayetteville, AR
where the Ole Miss Rebels are

1539
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:14,440
playing the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Arkansas is a 7 point home

1540
01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:16,400
favorite.
Brian, what you got?

1541
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:20,480
I think this is going to be
about a 22 touchdown victory for

1542
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:22,160
Ole Miss.
I think they're just going to be

1543
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,600
too much to handle down there in
Fayetteville.

1544
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,200
I don't think the the Razorbacks
are going to quite have enough

1545
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,240
to keep pace with that offense.
So I'm going to take Ole Miss

1546
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,560
here.
All righty, I'm exact opposite

1547
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,040
of you.
I think Arkansas does have

1548
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,760
enough in the tank probably to
keep up offensively. 7:00 is way

1549
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:49,480
too much to lay.
And the whole thing is it's

1550
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,920
almost just has not been right
in my opinion since the Kentucky

1551
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,400
game.
They have not been right.

1552
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,040
I mean, if you take a look at
them since Kentucky game a few

1553
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:05,520
weeks ago, like they played
South Carolina, they only scored

1554
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,800
27.
They lost LSU, they scored 26,

1555
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,040
they beat Oklahoma, they only
scored 26.

1556
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,840
And then I look at what Arkansas
has done the last few weeks,

1557
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,480
5:00 and 3:00.
Arkansas has been laying some

1558
01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:21,920
points, like Arkansas has been
putting points on the board

1559
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,840
against less than average
defenses, 58 last week.

1560
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,440
It's Mississippi State.
I think this is going to be

1561
01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:32,200
entertaining personally, but
give me the Razorbacks and seven

1562
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,680
Shelton is with.
Ride with Ole Miss baby.

1563
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,360
Who you riding with, Tally?
Give me Arkansas.

1564
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,520
Any rhyme or reason or just
screwed lane given?

1565
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,960
Vibes.
No it's just vibes man.

1566
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:52,640
I mean Arkansas got a got a ugly
pig as they mascot so they

1567
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,160
should be winning this game
right?

1568
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:59,760
You think so?
Hey, Miranda's riding with with

1569
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:07,440
Sheldon and I, and so is Jason.
All righty, we got one MO here

1570
01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:11,280
and obviously that is our Music
Man picking the Florida Georgia

1571
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:25,000
game.
Well, I won't back down.

1572
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:34,520
No, I won't back down.
You can swing me up and get me

1573
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:42,480
to feel, but I won't back down.
Welcome back to another week of

1574
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:46,080
guitar licks and gambling picks.
I'm Jason Long, I took a big

1575
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,720
loss last week, but as the song
says, I'm not going to back

1576
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,080
down.
In fact, this week I'm coming

1577
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,920
back stronger than ever.
I did some research, I took

1578
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:56,080
notes, I did math and wrote down
stats and stuff.

1579
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,960
So I am ready folks.
I'm looking at the Florida

1580
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,120
Georgia Game, the World's
Largest outdoor cocktail party,

1581
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,400
going on in Jacksonville
Saturday afternoon, and Florida

1582
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,800
started out a little rough, but
they've won three of their last

1583
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:09,240
four games.
Georgia's looked.

1584
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,720
Pretty good all season,
including two weeks ago when

1585
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:13,400
they beat Texas and I lost
money.

1586
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,720
However, they're only two and
five against the spread.

1587
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,400
Florida's getting 16 1/2 points
in this game.

1588
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,520
I think they'll at least keep it
around 10.

1589
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,560
So I'm going to go and stick my
neck out there and bet on

1590
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,920
Florida plus 16 1/2 against
Georgia.

1591
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:34,000
One other little side note, I
noticed the over under was 52

1592
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,960
1/2 points for this game.
I looked it up and that is hit

1593
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,720
for the last 6 times these teams
have met and it's hit the last

1594
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:44,200
two times they've played each
other.

1595
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,720
So I might sprinkle a little
something only over.

1596
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:51,400
And as far as the song goes,
obviously, Gainesville native

1597
01:32:51,440 --> 01:33:07,560
Tom Petty.
The rain, the rain, the rain,

1598
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:25,440
The rain, The rain, The rain,
the rain, the rain.

1599
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,920
Hey on a serious note I want to
take a moment to say fare thee

1600
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,560
well to my guy Phil Lesh.
Thank you for the music.

1601
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,760
We'll see you on the other side
for the rest of y'all.

1602
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,680
I'll hopefully see you next week
for another week.

1603
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,280
Guitar licks and gambling picks
have a great week.

1604
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,640
All righty, so there is the
Florida Georgia game, the

1605
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,600
world's largest outdoor cocktail
party.

1606
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,400
We lost Tally, so I'm going to
do a little bit more talking

1607
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:04,480
always for some reason this has
been even though I have like no

1608
01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:06,600
rooting interest.
This is always one of those

1609
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,960
games that has captivated me
since I was a kid like always.

1610
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,680
So for Jason, he'll probably be
pairing himself a nice raw old

1611
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,360
fashioned enjoying this one
because he sent us the bed and

1612
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:21,240
slip y'all, he did sprinkle the
money on the over under.

1613
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:27,160
So you know that's there.
And now we got to make our

1614
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:30,000
picks.
So we're going to get tally back

1615
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,760
up and running.
Brian, who do you got?

1616
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,760
I'm going with Georgia here.
I haven't seen anything from

1617
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,200
Florida at this point to inspire
a lot of conference confidence.

1618
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,240
I think Georgia is kind of
settling back in after a little

1619
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:49,640
bit of a tough patch there.
So I'll take Georgia.

1620
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:54,920
I'll lay the the 16 1/2.
Yeah the 16 1/2 is such a big

1621
01:34:54,920 --> 01:35:03,200
number and but is it big enough
in regardless what this screen

1622
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:07,520
says to me it is too much.
I do think Georgia wins but I

1623
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,960
think the game is a lot closer
than you need to.

1624
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,840
Then they can be left.
I am taking Florida, not Georgia

1625
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,600
fries.
Edit details completely screwed

1626
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,120
that up.
I'll take the L on that one.

1627
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,680
Too well, I'm looking.
Much like Florida will take on

1628
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,280
Saturday.
No, I'm just.

1629
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:29,400
Kidding.
See how it's going to make the

1630
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:30,640
L?
It just ain't going to be about

1631
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,720
16 1/2.
It's going to be about less than

1632
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:37,120
16 1/2 points, but yeah, give
give me Florida on this one.

1633
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,640
Sheldon Brown with me, Curtis.
Not us.

1634
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,280
Me.
Yeah, I'm a ride with you too,

1635
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:48,880
Brian, because Georgia's coming
off of a bye week and I think

1636
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:53,160
that they're going to come back
ready to give that final push to

1637
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,720
try to get to the SEC
Championship.

1638
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:57,680
Hey.
No, they ain't.

1639
01:35:59,960 --> 01:36:02,320
Oh yeah, they are.
Yeah, two weeks ago.

1640
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,200
Yeah.
Miranda's riding with us there

1641
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:11,280
and obviously we know Jason is
not riding solo as expected, but

1642
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:17,320
riding with Curtis.
And we're also coming off a by

1643
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:21,880
week as well, so should be
interesting. 1 and Tally, I was

1644
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,920
just telling Brian while you
were getting back on for some

1645
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:28,240
reason, I have really no root
and interest in this game, but

1646
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:31,120
that game is always captivated
me for years.

1647
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,880
I don't know why, but it's just
always captivated me for years

1648
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:43,240
so but there it is there's our
big screeners enjoy the games

1649
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:49,120
that responsibly and if you ride
with one of us all the way down,

1650
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,360
well y'all, y'all know you're
making a mistake by doing that.

1651
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:56,320
So don't.
Anything coming out in the last

1652
01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:01,240
hour and 37 minutes, boys?
I wouldn't say anything's coming

1653
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:09,840
out, but I will throw some
numbers at you right quick. 1919

1654
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,920
is the number that Pride needs
to get to.

1655
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,800
That means he wins four games,
four more games.

1656
01:37:17,480 --> 01:37:21,640
He will be 19 and 17 in his
coaching career at Virginia

1657
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,360
Tech.
Right now he is 15 to 17.

1658
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:30,760
Worst case scenario, he needs to
be at 518 and 18.

1659
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,280
That means he goes three and one
in the last four games.

1660
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:40,880
But you know what, Charlie,
let's go.

1661
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:45,440
And, and I'm glad you said that
because that was from three and

1662
01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:48,760
eight.
That was from 3:00 and 8:00.

1663
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:53,080
Yeah, first season 3 and eight.
Second season 7 and six.

1664
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,440
The season where you go, yeah, 5
right now.

1665
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:02,880
Yeah, 5 right now, yeah. 5 right
now and we didn't.

1666
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,280
See five last year.
You know we saw five last year.

1667
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:08,720
Brian, me and you were
travelling to Randolph Macon.

1668
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,440
November 11th is when we got to
five last year y'all?

1669
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:16,960
What are you saying Brian?
Sorry, I was.

1670
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,120
Just going to say, I mean that I
think, I think getting to 8 this

1671
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:21,760
year is important.
Yeah.

1672
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:27,560
I think that's, I think that's
really important from a path

1673
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,440
forward standpoint.
We're talking about the the

1674
01:38:29,440 --> 01:38:31,280
youth that's coming in.
I feel like prize has done a

1675
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,040
good job of bringing in the the
right type of players for what

1676
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:36,640
we're trying to do both
offensively and defensively.

1677
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,160
I think we're starting to see
some of that pay off in terms of

1678
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:44,320
the talent, the the the youth
talent, the guys that are, you

1679
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,800
know, true freshman, true
sophomore, they're going out

1680
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:51,160
there and they're starting to
make names for themselves on

1681
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:56,560
this team that is, you know,
fairly veteran laden.

1682
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,000
You know, they're starting to
make their presence felt.

1683
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,600
But if you want to keep that
train moving, you got to put up

1684
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,960
wins.
And eight says we're on the

1685
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:11,160
right track to be that top two
top three every year team in the

1686
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:12,920
ACC.
And that's where we need to get

1687
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:14,920
back to it.
That's the first step is

1688
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:19,160
consistently being in the
conversation with the Clemson's

1689
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:24,240
and Miami's want to be mentioned
in that same discussion year in,

1690
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,040
year out.
You got to go out there and win

1691
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,200
8 games this year.
All right, so I like this tally

1692
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:34,120
said 19, You said eight.
I'm staying 4 because there's

1693
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:38,480
four games left in the season
there for all those young bucks

1694
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:40,680
have the opportunity to start
playing.

1695
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:42,480
Chris Lester said it on this
program.

1696
01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:45,160
He was, he said the game he was
looking forward to with Syracuse

1697
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,160
because he knew Keelan.
I'm going to start calling him

1698
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,840
Keelan because I don't want Mama
come beat me up.

1699
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,200
But those guys now have the
opportunity.

1700
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:58,120
There's one other guy that might
have the opportunity as well and

1701
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,840
Tally, you mentioned that you
would like to see him back and

1702
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,760
that's Tucker Holloway.
There's an opportunity.

1703
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,080
Tucker Holloway plays this last
month of the season because he

1704
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,760
would keep his red shirt and two
more years of eligibility left,

1705
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,960
which would be shoes.
Shout out B Fish.

1706
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,800
Yes, we know B Fish because she
have disability back there in

1707
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:17,600
the three and eight season.
But.

1708
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:22,240
We need a we we remember that.
I will never forget that man,

1709
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,000
but that those.
I hope somebody cares about a

1710
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,240
situation like B Fish cared
about Tucker Holloway's red

1711
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,000
shirt.
Golly, he was mad.

1712
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,960
He.
Was so mad and we were like we

1713
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:36,240
need to win a game and.
Right.

1714
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,680
We got to show something.
I don't want to throw too much

1715
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,000
out, you know, I know it's week
by week, but we just talking

1716
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:45,200
numbers here, but 19, you get to
19, you know how many wins that

1717
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,920
gives you for the season, gives
you nine wins for the season.

1718
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,440
You got opportunity to win 10
games.

1719
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:54,520
Hey.
Just saying man.

1720
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,080
But you.
But you know what?

1721
01:40:56,120 --> 01:41:00,640
You at least need to make but.
Hey, but you know what that nine

1722
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,520
does too if things break like
you want it to break.

1723
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:05,920
Look at him.
Look.

1724
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:07,240
At him.
Look at him coming in late.

1725
01:41:07,480 --> 01:41:10,520
And ready.
But Batali and I don't want to

1726
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:13,320
speak it.
Put 9 and things break right?

1727
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,560
Y'all know where we can where
you can drive to?

1728
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:22,440
Actually, Yeah, yeah, put that
up.

1729
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:23,240
There.
That's right.

1730
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:24,640
That's right.
There you go.

1731
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,160
There you go.
Houston coming in high Coming in

1732
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:27,680
high.
I love it.

1733
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,240
Love it.
We missed you tonight, Andretti,

1734
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:34,320
and I'm just going to throw all
these up here just in case A.

1735
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,880
Reminder throw, throw the
fucking 1999 in there.

1736
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:41,800
Make sure you're following on
YouTube, subscribed on YouTube,

1737
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:48,000
and that's going to be your
chance to enter the drawing for

1738
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:53,320
the lovely goal post pyramid
that we got courtesy of press *.

1739
01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:56,400
So get it in there.
Absolutely.

1740
01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:01,200
And again, we haven't decided if
we're doing it early.

1741
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:02,920
Well, there you go.
Put him up there.

1742
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:05,360
He he's make sure you subscribe
to Andretti.

1743
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:11,120
That's what she said.
Make sure you subscribe to

1744
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:13,600
Andretti to the account, man.
I don't want to pull your name

1745
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,440
out.
You ain't subscribed because

1746
01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:18,120
Tally going to call you and be
like you were going to win it,

1747
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,320
but you didn't subscribe to our
YouTube channel so we can't give

1748
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:25,600
it to you for for all those who.
Are two step process fellas.

1749
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:30,920
Effectively put it on there.
Brian, do you have a cut off

1750
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,160
date that you need it on there
by?

1751
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,440
Because I don't know if you're
able to pull, how quick he's

1752
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:36,720
going to be able to pull
everything.

1753
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,680
So I mean, put it on, it's got
to be either week 8-9 or ten

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01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,760
episodes.
By.

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01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:47,200
Let's let's do end of night
Saturday.

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01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,960
We're not gonna accept entries
Sunday, Monday or Tuesday on any

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01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:56,160
of them, so get it in there by
Saturday night.

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01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:57,840
Late night.
There you go.

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01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,320
Love to see it, Andre.
I, I, I, you know what?

1760
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,200
I look at the numbers of these
episodes.

1761
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:07,160
Ain't many people watching the,
the, the episode past Saturday

1762
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:09,240
night.
Like if I didn't watch it.

1763
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,360
Now I'm gonna wait for the next
go round and see what we got.

1764
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,120
So not this time.
Not this time.

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01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,840
All the way through Saturday
night, if you, if you get in

1766
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,800
there late, I'm sorry about, I
will try to get you in there,

1767
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,480
but I would prefer the cut off
to be Saturday night.

1768
01:43:23,480 --> 01:43:26,120
Just letting y'all know that.
So we're going to get as many of

1769
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:29,880
y'all in there as we can and
we're going spin her around and

1770
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,960
see what she do and one of y'all
will have that lovely, lovely

1771
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:34,760
pyramid and we'll get that
shipped out to you all.

1772
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,560
Right.
Well, that is going to wrap up

1773
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:41,040
this episode of the Boundary
Corner podcast brought to you by

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Accounts Family Pharmacy in
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I'm Curtis Wilson.
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1776
01:43:46,440 --> 01:43:48,800
Jonathan Tally.
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secured the Big East that
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1792
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1793
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is funny sometimes.
A lot of different reasons.

1794
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You all know what they are.
As always, the man who played

1798
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:54,600
Tom Petty's Don't back down
tonight.

1799
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,160
Play this in every out every
week.

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Check him out at
jasonlongmusic.com.

1801
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,480
You can.
Hey, Curtis, let me cut you off

1802
01:45:00,480 --> 01:45:05,080
real quick before we before we
hit the sign off here, just want

1803
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,920
to kind of throw it back again.
It's scrolling down here at the

1804
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,920
bottom, but United Way of
Rutherford County in North

1805
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:16,240
Carolina, it's, you know, we're,
we're, we're a few weeks

1806
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:18,040
removed.
You know, you're not seeing it

1807
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in the, the news headlines every
week, but those folks still need

1808
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:24,400
a lot of help down there.
Any, any money that you can

1809
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,720
contribute is going to be a big
help going forward.

1810
01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:32,600
So please continue to support
those victims down there in

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Western North Carolina.
Again, the, the, the URLs down

1812
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there, United Way of
rutherford.org.

1813
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So hit that up.
Donate what you can.

1814
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,080
Appreciate it.
And there you go, and as long as

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that music man goes, check him
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you can see where he's playing.
Check out all of his music, all

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of his web pages, his YouTube,
Spotify, Apple, all that fun

1818
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:57,480
stuff.
We thank y'all for listening.

1819
01:45:57,480 --> 01:45:59,440
Yes, this was Thor's hammer
tonight.

1820
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:02,680
And as always, let's go.