Week Ten

Week Ten
Boundary Corner Podcast
Week Ten

It wasn't pretty but the Hokies handled the Yellow Jackets on Homecoming and collected it's first winning streak of the year with a 21-6 win at Lane Stadium. We Tell the Truth about a gritty win at home ahead of a trip to the JMA Dome in Syracuse. We wrap as always with our Big Screeners picks presented by Counts Family Pharmacy.

00:02:42 - Tell the Truth Tuesday

00:46:31 - Know the Enemy

01:07:26 - Hokie Keys and Predictions

01:18:08 - Big Screeners

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Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary

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Corner podcast, the part of the
College Heddle network, along

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with my partners, Brian Siegler
and Jonathan Tally.

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I am Curtis Wilson and this
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Gentlemen, how are we doing on a
winning Tuesday?

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Busy, busy, busy.
It's been a it's been a little

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bit of a busy day for me, buddy,
but we are we're back at it

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again.
It is a victory Tuesday wasn't

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an inspiring victory Tuesday,
but a win is a win is a win is a

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win, especially when it keeps
you in the ACC hunt.

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I'm with Brian when he says
busy.

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So football season is over for
us here in my household.

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My son is done with JV football,
so he's moved on to basketball.

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So we're getting ready for
basketball season to start up.

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But you know who's not done with
football?

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The Hokies.
They're still winning three in

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one in conference play, another
win.

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I'll take them any way we can
get them 21 to six win over

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Georgia Tech.
So yeah, feeling good, man.

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Back in the saddle with my guys.
Chad is already going.

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Got somebody commentating in the
chat saying the podcast will

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start momentarily.
Hey, we already getting it.

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We we ready to roll.
We.

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Already it has.
Begun and all these folks

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putting this in, we appreciate
it.

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I appreciate that guys.
By the way, Steven, I get it,

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man, Don't worry.
Don't worry, Steven, it's going

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to be on YouTube for you or on
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tomorrow.
Well, let's get into telling the

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truth on this Tuesday, as we do
talk about a 26 to 6V over

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Georgia Tech first thing.
The first time since 2012.

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We'll say that again.
The first time since 2012.

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My son and Brian's son had not
been born the last time we beat

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Georgia Tech at home.
That's not a lie.

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That's not a lie.
That's.

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Crazy.
Since they were born and the way

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I look at it, and y'all kind of
said it, we're talking about a

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win tonight.
We're not talking about a loss

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even though we played like crap.
But I'm going to put John on.

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One side of the ball. 01 side of
the ball.

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Hey, hey.
I I don't have a ton of a a ton

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of nitpicks on the defense.
I think offense was definitely

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uninspired outside of just being
absolute hammers in the red

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zone.
Danny, we'll talk about that.

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But I like what our buddy John
Le Cook said.

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It was a Brian Stein spring win.
And you know what?

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I'm sitting here.
Go back in your memory, Banks,

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everybody, those who are older,
that was a Brian Stein spring

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win.
Get a couple explosive plays,

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get it in the red zone, score,
touchdowns, defense forces some

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turnovers, forces some.
Stop that, that.

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That looked like a 2007 win in
some cases.

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Not even bullshit.
Yeah, and, and I mean, other

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than, you know, I, I think we
were probably a little less

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efficient in the run game that I
think a lot of us anticipated

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we'd be in that game.
I think, you know, we we knew

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that Georgia Tech was good up
front and we knew that more than

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likely they're going to get in
there and load the box and force

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us to beat them through the air,
which, you know, isn't their

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strong suit defensively.
But I think it's a good, it's

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it, you know it, it's a good
game plan against, you know what

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we're doing right now just
because we've been OK in the

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past game, but we have not hit
the home runs in the past game

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that we would like to hit.
And until we start taking the

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top off a little bit more,
that's how teams are going to

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play us.
No, I agree.

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I agree totally.
I mean, I'll go ahead, Curtis.

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Well, I was gonna say that's the
stuff that went bad.

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Hold that tight.
Let's talk about what went.

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We're good tally.
Let's talk about the defense

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man, because first of all, Tally
and Brian did not get to to ride

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the Curtis Wilson roller coaster
on Saturday afternoon because

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Curtis Wilson was at a baseball
game literally from the time the

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game started to pretty much me
getting in my car and hearing

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Bill Roth talking Jalen Jones
pick.

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So they didn't get to ride it.
Tally, I appreciate all the

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updates on Saturday.
You kept me sane and not pulling

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out my phone every 4 seconds to
check the score.

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So what did you see from the
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Hammers, man, like Brian said,
Hammers is just, they were

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hidden, they were physical, went
back, got against the wall, you

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know, they bounced off that wall
and fought back, got in the

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corner and fought out like dogs.
They didn't let nobody get in

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the end zone.
You know what was the last time

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we could say that?
You know, every time that it

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looked like something bad was
going to happen, the defense

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stood up and stopped it.
So that was definitely good to

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see because again, like Brian
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be desired.
So defense stepped up and did

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their job.
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That's part of what a good team
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You struggle in one area, you
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Yep.
And I think the big thing for me

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was watching, you know, kind of
the success they were having

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getting off the field when they
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there.
So, you know, that was

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important.
We had talked about it being a

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key.
They did well with that.

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And I think that's that's
something that we can keep that

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up and get the offense back the
ball, even if they don't do a

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whole lot with it.
You know, you, you keep getting

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the getting the team frustrated,
keep stealing the momentum back,

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keeping them off off their off
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You know, good things are going
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this offense has some weapons.
So if the defense can keep doing

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stuff like that, I think that'll
eventually, you know, work,

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work, work its way back into
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And Brian, you mentioned it, the
money down 6 for 20, they got

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zero fourth down conversions and
it was something like 6 for 15

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or 6 for 16.
I got to pull up the exact stats

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like they couldn't get much done
on 3rd like they.

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'D get 6 for 20. 6 for 20 total
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So on 3rd and 4th down.
I mean, I'll take that every day

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twice on Sundays.
Let me ask you all this because

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again, I I watched it condensed
and I saw some highlights and

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some things here and there.
But in y'all's opinion and and

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coach pride mentioned it, but
he's actually mentioned the last

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couple weeks why and and y'all
played so y'all can see things

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and that I don't see why the run
fits getting better like why?

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Like, what has changed really in
this last month where he's

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chuckling over here?
So I'm going to let Brian start.

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Hey, there's already been a
comment about it.

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What's changed?
I mean, we kind of know what's

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changed.
Oh, you're talking about that

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right there.
Yeah, Keller has been the the

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prophecy has finally been
fulfilled.

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It, it took three years and, and
we finally got to a point where

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now we can say that Jane Keller
is a starting linebacker,

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quality player for this defense.
And he's always had the physical

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tools and it, it, it's really
just been the mental piece.

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And for all the, you know, we
bring in Brumfield.

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I think Brumfield has been a
solid, if not spectacular

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addition to the defense.
But what he has done is given

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Keller someone to learn from and
someone to be a sounding board

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for those mental aspects of
playing linebacker at this level

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that he he didn't have at all
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And, you know, he had in a in a
different capacity before that.

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So I think that's been kind of a
levelling thing for him.

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And, and, and we're starting to
see as the season's going on and

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he's getting, you know, some
more interactions there start

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starting to see that come to
fruition and starting to see him

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really put the pieces together
mentally.

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Because like I said, he's always
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He's he's very athletic, he's
got good length.

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He's the type of guy that you
want to see in the middle of a

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defense.
And he's starting to have the

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the the mentals to back that up
and be able to go out there and

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leave the the middle of the
defense.

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Thank you, Tyler, what are you
seeing?

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Yeah, no, kind of what Brian
saying, but you also got to add

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on just the more and more people
play together, they get better

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continuity.
You kind of know what somebody's

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going to be.
You feel them kind of playoff of

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them, playoff their energy.
Kiante Jenkins is playing well.

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He's coming up hitting people,
you know, kind of what we knew

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it could be, but it's not that
hit somebody and then he's hurt

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for two series after that and
he's hopping up, he's talking

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junk, getting back to the
huddle, coming back doing again.

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I think he led us in tackles on
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So, you know, watching these
guys that we know had some

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talent take just another step is
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That's what you want to see.
That's why the fits are getting

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better.
And I think Brumfield has a lot

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to do with that.
Just showing people how to be a

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pro.
What he lacks in size, he makes

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up in, you know, experience and
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You know, you can hear him
speak.

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I'm sure he's in that room
telling the guys how to prepare

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for games and showing them how
to prepare for games.

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And that's why you see somebody
like, you know, Jayden Keller

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take the next step.
Yep, and I'll tell you something

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else y'all saying that I'm also
looking at the depth at

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linebackers.
Another reason too, because if

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you stay fresher, you won't be a
sloppy, right?

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You won't be a sloppy.
Georgia Tech had 81 snaps total

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snaps.
They passed the ball a lot

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because they were down a lot.
But you want to know something.

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You want to know of the
linebackers who played the most

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snaps.
And I do consider County Jenkins

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a linebacker.
Probably Jenkins or Woodson.

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Jenkins and Woodson, Guess what
they both did 1 did 62, one did

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60.
So there were 20 plus snaps.

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They weren't on the field.
Lawson got 21.

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Brumfield got 22, Caleb Spencer
got 15, and you got where is it?

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Jaden Keller got 59.
So it's not only that, it's the

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one, the Unit 1 doing its job,
Unit 2.

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And the way they're mixing and
matching, they're staying fresh.

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We we truly do have a linebacker
rotation where I think us three,

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if we were to say it and I were
to say, hey guys, we're going to

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put Brunfield, we're going to
put Lawson and we're going to

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quit Spencer out.
You'll be like, OK, that's three

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good players that can make
plays.

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It's not like this anymore.
Who's on the field?

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Oh, man, that ain't good.
They going to do something

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stupid and I think that's
helping as well that those guys,

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you said italic, they're all
comfortable together and now

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regardless of combination,
they're all getting comfortable.

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The other thing, Saturday, I
know some people might consider

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this a high number.
I look at percentages.

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We only had eight missed tackles
on 81 snaps under 10, right at

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10%, take 10% all day.
On a game like that with 80 plus

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snaps now you take 10% on 50
maybe not, but 80?

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I'd take that.
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I mean, you're going 6 deep at
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And I think some of that, yeah,
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there was some some hamming and
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cross, cross positional play
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But, you know, we're starting to
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And now we now we're seeing
again, we got got 60, we got two

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guys in just about every spot in
there that can go out there and

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give you significant snaps and
not really feel it, feel bad

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about that, that exposure for
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That is key.
All right, one last piece I want

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to talk about here and Tally,
you mentioned it, but I didn't.

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I want to know if you knew it
was this good.

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You mentioned every time they
got backed up because they

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pushed us to the red zone a
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times after the game Saturday.
This is the fourth ranked red

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zone defense in the country.
They know it was that good.

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That good and especially and
start thinking about the last

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even the last few weeks what
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they started in the red zone and
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They never got down there in any
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Stanford and even Miami.
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the red zone.
So this defense is it's it's not

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only a bend but not break, but
in some cases it's effectively

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you're not even getting past the
50 if the sacks are going on,

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you're punting a lot and you
have what happened on 3rd down.

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Hey, Brian, you alluded to this
law earlier.

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One other thing that went well,
red zone offense and anything.

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Anything y'all are seeing or
what y'all are liking?

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I mean, I think the big thing is
that just clutch play, man.

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You know, when we're looking at
it, it seems like this defense

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tends to come up with some big
plays in the red zone when we

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need them.
Whether it's to get off the

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field, force a field goal,
whether it's a key turnover,

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whether it's a big stop on a
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short.
I mean, they seem to always just

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have the right the right call in
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And that's been that's been big,
I think in, in, in the games in

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the last month, but obviously
big in a game like this Saturday

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where your offense wasn't doing
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You needed those stops in order
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game at arm's length.
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felt like we did in this game.
You know, we, we never really,

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we didn't dominate.
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from a just pure yard
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them at arm's length throughout
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the defense and especially on
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Tally.
No, I agree.

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I mean, again, just kind of
like, like Brian said, you know,

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keeping it at at arm's length
defense, just going out, playing

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hard, being able to rotate those
guys in often is doing just

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enough for us to put the points
on the board and and and take

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the game.
So you kind of seen it man where

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we the defence is like they was
trying to give the offense a

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kick in the butt sometimes you
know what I'm saying?

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It's like OK, y'all messed up
here.

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You, you made a bad play here,
you did this.

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Then we come back with a we come
back with a pick, you know, give

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it to your plus territory.
We come back with a special

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teams play, give it to you in
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It's like OK, go do something
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So just just kept, just kept
grinding, man, Just kept

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grinding.
All right, I'm going to make

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this real quick.
And as we go over, because there

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were some bad things and even
though we won the game, you

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always got to look at we got to
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Do you all know this?
The last three games, 11 for 11

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inside the red zone, 11 did.
Not know.

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That 11 for 11, you know, the
last time we haven't, we didn't

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score inside the red zone.
Who was that?

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What?
What's the play that pissed you

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off the most in the last game?
Was it Miami?

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Is that fucking fake field goal
that the last time we did not

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score in the red zone was right
there?

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We scored in the red zone one
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Makes you a little bit upset
because you think how we're

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doing it.
Like if we would have just ran a

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normal play, we score a
touchdown and that game is

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history.
All right, let's go over to the

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offensive line and let's talk
about the definitely the

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troubles are reappearing there.
Brian, you looked at some film

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and what happened because
obviously we 14 pressures on 31

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drop backs.
That's way too much, but 111 of

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the 117 were after contact.
So this wasn't just a pass pro

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issue, this was a run block
issue as well and if we don't

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have guys like Tooting and
drones who are absolute hosses

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to take down, this would not
have been good.

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Yeah, I mean, I when you look at
it, it's a it's a combination of

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things here.
The offensive line obviously

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didn't have a great game, but
what the defense was doing, they

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were absolutely selling out for
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And they were basically saying,
Kyron, you got to beat us,

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especially in the intermediate
and in deep areas of the field.

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They were trying to take away as
much of the short stuff as they

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could and take away as much as
the run as they could.

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They did a pretty good job of
doing that.

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But you know, at at the same
time, you know, you got to be

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able to take advantage of what
the defense is giving you.

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And they were giving us throws
down the field and we did not do

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a good job of taking advantage
of that.

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Some of that was offensive line
not giving Kyron in time.

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Some of that was Kyron missing a
couple of those shots down the

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field when he had those
one-on-one situations.

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Some of that was just a
combination of play calling and

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just not not getting guys in
spots of the field where Kyron

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could get comfortable.
And I think that's kind of the

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the theme of the day is that we
never, I think had a chance

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offensively to get Kyron really
comfortable in the passing game

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in in those timing areas.
And that kind of threw off his

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game as a whole when we look at
him throwing the football deeper

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down the field.
What about you?

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I don't know if you got to hear
Brian, you got unfortunately

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disconnected there, but you
know, couldn't run, struggles

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passing.
We looked at the PFF and some of

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these guys got really good
grades and they may have overall

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did fine, but overall as a unit,
something we talked about and I

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think this is the truth, why you
can't always judge PFF.

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We were talking about it before
we got on the night tally.

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Me, you and Brian.
PFF never counts for like the

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big plays that screwed things
up.

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It's just did you win or did you
lose?

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Because you could win on 30 drop
backs, you could win 20 of them.

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But what if the 10 you gave up
three sacks that took you out of

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scoring range, that stopped
drives?

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That's a hell of a lot more
negative than somebody, you

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know, giving up a slight
pressure.

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Yeah, there's there's no weight,
there's no weight attached to

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the to the to the play by play
grade.

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So.
But what, what do you think,

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Charlie?
You, you, you got to see the

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game live in the moment.
So and I know you, you listen to

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Brian and and you do second
reviews yourself, but what was

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wrong with the offensive line
with you?

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Kind of like, I mean, Thomas
kind of hit it on the hit the

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nail on the head a little bit in
in the chat when you talk about

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the slow developing pass plays,
things like that, you know,

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predictable play calling
sometimes that's the main two

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things.
We'll just say that the slow

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developing pass plays where
first play of the game, you drop

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Karen back to do whatever.
We don't even get to see it

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because he's hit 10 yard loss
and fumbles the ball.

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Thank the Lord we got on it.
Like you just don't need that.

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You know, you don't need that.
That's not what we do.

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Well, that's not what he does.
Well, you know what I'm saying?

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I just think we can do some
things different and then it

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goes to the next one.
What I said, predictable play

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calling, which is might be what
they were trying to do.

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Hey, let's you know, everybody's
seen this.

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Let's do something different.
Georgia Techs defensive and

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offensive line were were really
good like they're they're

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they're solid.
I was going to say they're

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really good, but they're solid.
They're going to be when we look

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back on this, we're going to go,
hey, that was one of the better

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lines that we face.
That was one of the better

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defensive lines that we face.
They're very physical.

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They they were tough.
You know what I'm saying that

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you can tell that they're well
coached.

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So it starts in the churches and
sometimes we just got, you know,

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you don't get beat and the only
thing you can do to beat a

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better player on that play is to
out scheming, which we did.

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And we got some points when we
out schemed them.

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So, you know, I'll take that.
But yeah, the slow development

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plays and predictable play
calling sometimes because I

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mean, you got to thank Tude had
80 yards and it was that was a

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tough 80 yards to get.
But a lot of the plays that he

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was running and they would that
we ran for him, we're plays that

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we've run all year.
And like if you're a decent

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defensive coordinator, like you
see the motions and you see the

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different setups and you like, I
know what's coming here.

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You know what I'm saying?
Like so got to find a way to

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throw some wrinkles in there and
do some different things like

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that.
Yeah.

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And and, and, and that's why I
kind of going to pivot to what

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we're going to go to next and
it's talking about the offensive

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play calling because I mean,
first of all, the, the what have

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we been saying?
We cannot be a 5050 team.

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We were a 5050 team Saturday and
we won.

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Thank you.
Because I mean, the honest truth

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is it's a, it's a, it's a
prayer.

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We won.
But my thing is, and I want to

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talk to you all about this
because I'm sitting here

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watching condensed, watching
some highlights and I see what

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Georgia Tech's doing.
And I know like, we shut them

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down.
Who cares what they're doing if

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we attacked?
Like that we would look good

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doing that.
We would.

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It would have been 42 six.
Right, rolling the pocket, you

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know, dumping off into the
flats, hitting the crossing

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routes, you know, different
things like that, Yeah.

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Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of what I

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was alluding to.
And I was talking about we

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didn't do enough early in the
game to get Kyron comfortable

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because I mean, we talked about
it on here before and and I'll

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keep preaching.
I mean, when, when Kyron has

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confidence early in a game, he
is a different football player.

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He is one of the best
quarterbacks that you could have

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in the country.
When he is confident early in a

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football game, when he doesn't
get that early confidence, you

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know, he, he, he's, he's, he can
be very average at times.

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And, and when, when that
happens, you know, as a

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coordinator, you got to take a
cue there and understand that

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I've got to get him comfortable.
I've got to get him early wins.

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And I don't think you know
totality to your point that that

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opening play call, you know,
it's aggression and it's a

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little bit off your normal
schedule.

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But at the same time it it
probably plays into Kyron's

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biggest weakness as a thrower
and your offense's biggest

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weakness as a whole in terms of
drop back pass protection.

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So, you know, you kind of played
a little bit into the defense's

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hands, even though you were
mixing up what, what your normal

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script would be.
So you know that that kind of

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puts you behind the chains early
and then you don't really kind

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of get into a good offensive
rhythm until later in the in the

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first quarter there.
And, and I think that that's a

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big thing for this Virginia Tech
offense is that you've seen

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anytime we start early, we score
points, anytime we don't start

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early, it's it's a slog.
And, and so that's, that's

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something to keep an eye on and
that's something to monitor.

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And I think as a coaching staff,
you got to address and say, we

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got to give this offense the
chance to get some of those wins

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early.
I mean, it doesn't always have

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00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,760
to be the first drive.
Like sometimes you just go have

441
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,080
drives where they got your
number right at the gate, but

442
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,640
you got to find ways to get your
quarterback comfortable in the

443
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,480
passing game.
So you can lean on your run game

444
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,080
because that is the strength of
your team.

445
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,040
But if you're not able to get
your quarterback comfortable,

446
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,800
that's when the defense can tee
up in the box and, and, and take

447
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,640
away your biggest asset, which
is that rushing attack.

448
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,480
Well, let me ask this Brian and
and I and I hit you up solo on

449
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,320
this and Batali chime in as
well.

450
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,960
When they got to load in the box
and you could see it, me

451
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,200
watching condensed, you could
see 7-8 guys around the box.

452
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,360
They knew where we were running
the ball at times and what I

453
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:55,800
didn't see were hot routes,
quick throws, you know, like you

454
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,840
say, Tally, just just something
in the flat.

455
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,840
They got aid in the box.
If you're doing anything like

456
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,800
pulling Basil out or Jay Lane to
the flat or you're running a

457
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,560
quick slant or a quick hitch or
a quick out, sometimes that goes

458
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,920
completely out of the playbook.
Where I feel like we sit here, I

459
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,200
listen to y'all and y'all would
say if you just ran A4 yard

460
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,560
slant where that linebacker
snuck down into the box to Jay

461
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,520
Lane.
If the if the quarterback ain't

462
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,440
right on his hip and that safety
don't make the right step, see

463
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,640
you, you're giving a 50 yard
play.

464
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,720
And and I feel like we're not
seeing that as much this year.

465
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,960
At least I'm not again, my eyes
aren't as trained as y'all's.

466
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,920
Like we saw at times last year.
Always go back to the Wake

467
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,640
Forest play and it was like a 8
yard slant.

468
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:45,600
They loaded the box.
There was one safety up, the

469
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,600
little RPO.
That safety did a false step.

470
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,800
Kyron put it right on Jay Lane
and he housed it for 70 yards.

471
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,800
And it's like, if you're going
to loosen, why aren't?

472
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,200
And Sheldon said it last week,
and this is what irritates me.

473
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,520
Kyron's intermediate passing
game has gotten so much better

474
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,840
this year.
And it's like we just abandoned

475
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,360
it.
Abandoned first play of the

476
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:08,360
game.
We're going to go with a double

477
00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:10,040
move.
Well, why don't you go with a

478
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,160
play action like a crosser or
Benji up the scene, like

479
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,040
something where, you know, this
is his comfort zone and it's

480
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,480
like they try to go away from it
and then we screw around and

481
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,440
next thing you know, we're all
sitting here, man, we going to

482
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,080
do something stupid.
We're going to lose this game.

483
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:26,920
They making brown smoke
cigarettes.

484
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,640
They make me slip on the bottle
at the baseball game tally.

485
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,280
I don't know what you're doing,
but we all doing something, try

486
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,800
to calm ourselves down, you
know?

487
00:28:35,360 --> 00:28:37,240
Sorry, pacing through the house
with my shirt off.

488
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,680
Hey, that's what I'm doing.
You know, and, and, and for that

489
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,720
first down play like, let's call
something like 1/2 roll and you

490
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:51,960
know, get, get like 1/2 field
read, do like a, you know, a, a,

491
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,320
a go route with a deep crosser.
You know, something where you

492
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,000
get, you know, 11 read 2 read,
check down.

493
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,680
And and and make that something
where if Kyron, if it ain't

494
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,920
there, if he's got pressure, he
can easily get rid of the

495
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,400
football and and and play
another down instead of having a

496
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,200
guy in his face ball on the
ground and you know, thankfully

497
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,640
gets back on it.
Yeah, I don't.

498
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,600
I mean, again, I'm not going to
get on Tebow too much because

499
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,040
some of it is execution from
what I see.

500
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,680
I have to put stuff on players,
but players play, you know,

501
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,560
can't miss blocks, can't miss
people running wide open across

502
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,920
the middle of the field,
different things like that.

503
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:38,440
But I will say, just looking at
the team, I feel like Chris Marv

504
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,760
knows what the identity is and
he tries to stick to that.

505
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,480
You know, he knows what his
defensive identity is and for

506
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,600
good or for bad, he's leaning
into it and you can see him

507
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,480
building on it each week.
Now with our offense, I see us,

508
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,840
it's kind of like we got a lot
of shiny toys and whichever 1 is

509
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,000
got new batteries, that's the
one we use that week, you know

510
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,600
what I'm saying?
Like sometimes I kind of feel

511
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,760
like that's how it is.
And on one hand, you do need to

512
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,480
see some different plays.
Like I've seen some different

513
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,520
plays that I haven't seen, you
know, in in two years, you know,

514
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,280
this game.
Hey, we.

515
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,200
Got a Philly special?
Yeah, Philly Special flea

516
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,120
flicker.
You know, I've seen a couple

517
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,400
things like that.
But also to do all that stuff,

518
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:25,960
you still have to have our
identity.

519
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,760
You know what I'm saying?
I still feel like we're trying

520
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,880
to we're struggling to lean into
that identity.

521
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,360
So we got to do it.
We we got to know what makes us

522
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,160
good.
We got to lead into that.

523
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,440
And then some of the other stuff
that can come off of that.

524
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,960
So again, I compared like, you
know, offense to defense of Marv

525
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:51,480
to Tebow, but he both got his
hands full because when we're

526
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,320
good, we're good.
When we're bad, we're bad on

527
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,760
offense, you know what I'm
saying?

528
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,000
So I know he's I know he's
trying.

529
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,400
That's not a middle, but so I
know he's trying to, you know,

530
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,160
make some things work.
And he did it again, I got to

531
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,680
give him his props.
Like he's seen what we couldn't

532
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,240
move the ball and we were having
some problems and he pulled some

533
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,560
stuff out that, you know,
progressed us down the field,

534
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,920
which is what we needed to win.
But at the same time, I still

535
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,640
think, like Curtis said, when we
started this, you get some of

536
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,240
those hot rods, like on the 1st
drive, not the first drive, but

537
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,880
the second drive, you know, when
we hit Benji, he's wide open.

538
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,960
You know what I'm saying?
It was nothing but a hot rod,

539
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,440
you know, So you did some motion
to kind of mess them up and send

540
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,520
somebody out to the flats and
they don't know who to cover.

541
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,880
And they think, well, actually
what they did was it was pretty,

542
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,280
that was pretty genius play
call.

543
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,160
So they moved the tackle to the
other side, you know, they moved

544
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,440
the one tackle to the other
side.

545
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,720
So you got 2 tackles on one
side.

546
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,560
Yeah.
So then you got Benji lined up

547
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,640
on the on the line and it looks
like he's a tackle, but he is a

548
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,800
eligible receiver and he just
hits hot right up the scene.

549
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,800
So great play design, but you
don't have to stop at one play.

550
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,000
Like you can build off.
You can build off that, off

551
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,120
that, that set, you know what
I'm saying?

552
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,640
Just things like that.
Let me let me put my thumb right

553
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,640
on the problem and I'm going to
I'm going to do it by asking a

554
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:16,240
question when it comes to the
passing game.

555
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,680
What is the bread and butter of
this offense?

556
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:21,840
Racial.
Tune.

557
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,040
Now I'm saying from a passing
standpoint.

558
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,240
The pass it don't work unless
you got him.

559
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,440
Right now that that's, that's my
point.

560
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,880
There's not really, you don't
have a bread and butter play in

561
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,800
this playbook that says when we
need yards, when we need a first

562
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,680
down, when we need 7, when we
need 8.

563
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,560
We don't have a play that's
like, all right, this is what

564
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,560
this is where Kyron feels the
most comfortable.

565
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,640
I don't feel like we've seen it.
I feel like there are.

566
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,920
We scheme ourselves into these
situations and scheme our way

567
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,680
out of them sometime.
But we don't have a Kelly, you

568
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,480
were talking about identity.
We don't really have an identity

569
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,960
from a passing standpoint that
says we do this really good

570
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,880
really consistently.
Let me ask you this, Brian and

571
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,400
Curtis too, but Brian said she
said that because this is

572
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,200
something I talk about a lot of
times, no disrespect to our wide

573
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,280
receivers, but I'm watching
certain plays and I'm watching,

574
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,040
you know, kind of going back and
watching tape and things like

575
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,320
that.
Do you think that is is because

576
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:26,280
we don't separate enough on our
wide receivers aren't separate

577
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,200
enough because sometimes we have
the opportunity to make plays,

578
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,080
but maybe somebody in the open,
maybe somebody didn't see it.

579
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,360
What do y'all think is going on
kind of with the receiver room?

580
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,600
I don't, I think they do get
separation.

581
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,560
I don't think it's consistently.
I don't think it's like it's

582
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,840
not.
It's to me.

583
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,760
I would want it to be.
Well, one person, one we won't

584
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,520
be clear.
One person gets separation all

585
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:53,680
the time.
But go ahead.

586
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,600
I know who that is.
I will let you mention in a

587
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:01,120
little while here, that text I
read while at the game was that

588
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,040
play, but I think it's about
it's not consistently, it's not

589
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,600
consistently where, you know,
you got somebody 75, somebody

590
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,880
60.
You know, you got Felton who's a

591
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,360
big guy, He's physical where you
almost want to say is you've got

592
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,880
to trust his big body to go get
the ball.

593
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,400
You've got to trust they're
going to win these battles.

594
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,840
So it I don't think it's like to
a point where it's like, Oh my

595
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,360
God, they can never get
separation.

596
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,280
But it's not, I think it's to
you what you said earlier, it's

597
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,679
not at the comfort level it
needs to be for Kyron to feel

598
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,960
comfortable just letting the
ball go.

599
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,120
Like he knows he's going to get
off that press or he's going to

600
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,360
get the separation on that cut.
And I will put it right there on

601
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,639
them.
Right.

602
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:48,120
Yeah, I'm understanding that.
Yeah, I'm, I, I think we got, we

603
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,159
got some guys that they get
separation.

604
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:53,840
But I to to Curtis's point, I
think the consistency is, is

605
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,120
probably the bigger issue.
And I think maybe when we think

606
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,120
about separation and we think
about how our offensive line is,

607
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,360
I think we're not seeing
separation maybe early in the

608
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,200
snap as much as we want to see
it.

609
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,120
I think our guys get open, but
sometimes I think they get open

610
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,480
at a time where Kyron's already
either made a decision to step

611
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,880
up, climb the ladder.
I think sometimes, sometimes if

612
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,600
he sees the tight coverage
before the break, he's not

613
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,920
always anticipating the
separation out of the break.

614
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,160
And so he kind of makes that
decision there.

615
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,200
So there's, there's there's a
lot of different factors.

616
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,440
I think that's playing into
that.

617
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,040
Some of that's on Kyra and some
of that's on, you know, the

618
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,480
receiver route running.
So I think there's, there's

619
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,520
blame across the board here, you
know, even going going to the

620
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,240
play call in itself, I think
there's there's a little blame

621
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:47,880
to be passed around.
But like I said, I think I'd

622
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,400
like to see us figure out what
we really do well in the passing

623
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,800
game and maybe lean on that a
little bit more, especially when

624
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,680
we have games like Georgia Tech
where we really couldn't find

625
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,520
consistency in the run game
because of the way they were

626
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,200
playing in the.
Box right?

627
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,120
I'm I'm going to say this and
it's and it's going back to

628
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,920
simple, it's schematics tally
like you mentioned a little

629
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,040
while ago, move in the pocket,
rolling Kyron out.

630
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,240
That's a scheme thing because
what that does y'all know both

631
00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,480
from playing the second that
pocket is rolled like on a

632
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,200
second and 8th you roll the
pocket on it's a pass play.

633
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,240
Wait a second though.
If, if, if we F up and he gets a

634
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:30,440
step, Kyron can get 10 yards.
If if we really F up he can get

635
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,080
35.
Right.

636
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,760
We're not putting them, we're
not putting the defense to have

637
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,560
to make a decision because what
normally happens when the pocket

638
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,600
rolls, safety or linebackers do
something, they move out of the

639
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,880
place.
What usually happens there is a

640
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,080
you're running somebody right
into where the potentially that

641
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,560
gap could be, right.
Oh, I'm going to run a little

642
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,440
crosser.
Well, that safety just came up

643
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,560
because he saw Kyron.
Well, now Kyron's got an easy

644
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,600
third down field.
Oh, he didn't come up.

645
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,480
Well, now it's going to be the
linebacker trying to beat Kyron

646
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,480
to the boundary and regardless,
Karen's going to get the

647
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,800
positive yards.
The other thing that I we have

648
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,480
not seen I feel like since the
first month of the season where

649
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,520
the orbit motions with Jane
Logan go.

650
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,400
Why aren't we orbit motioning
guys in the backfield?

651
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,960
Because y'all know that's a
separation creator and that's

652
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,720
moving guys.
That's the safeties looking.

653
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:18,160
Wait a second, where'd he just
go?

654
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:20,000
Well, he just came off the left
side.

655
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,400
Oh, I'm in cover too.
I got to see where he is because

656
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,840
if he comes back up the scene,
he's probably coming into my

657
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,880
zone.
It's like we're not doing

658
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,600
schematic things that could open
guys up that could make getting

659
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,520
separation easier.
And to me that goes back to

660
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,520
Tyler Bowen.
Like, dude, these things are

661
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,000
easy.
And if they're not working, if

662
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,640
they've got it figured out, then
you put it back in the lunch,

663
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,240
you put it back in the playbook
and say I'm not going to do that

664
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,320
today.
But that's what irritates me

665
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,240
because when I see a pocket roll
for a semi mobile quarterback,

666
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,160
oh, and they break 06 yards.
Well, now it's third and two,

667
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,560
that defense is all in a bond,
right?

668
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:58,280
What are they going to do?
They're going to run facial,

669
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,320
they're going to run Chiron.
They're going to run some little

670
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,400
pass.
They're going to take a deep

671
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,240
shot.
You know, they're going they're

672
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:06,040
going to run a little screen.
Everything's open.

673
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:09,960
And we're not doing that.
We're effectively not putting

674
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,520
ourselves in good situations
like that and it's irritating.

675
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,480
Yeah.
I mean, I think when we look at

676
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,640
the motion, I, I think that, you
know, we've talked about it.

677
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,160
Bowen has done a really good job
with motion to scheme for

678
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,480
certain plays.
But I, I, I would like to see

679
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:31,160
him being, being a little more
consistent with how we use

680
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:38,760
motion to isolate guys in, in
favorable matchups to, to just,

681
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,280
you know, to just move the
sticks.

682
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,240
I feel like we, we do a good job
on those kind of those big

683
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,960
plays, those, those, those plays
where we're going to get chunk

684
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,600
plays, but we don't use motion
really well just to get a guy 5

685
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,720
or 6 yards.
And you could.

686
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,320
And I and I think that's where,
where, where there could be some

687
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,160
improvement.
That's it right there.

688
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,560
That's it right there.
It's the little small gains that

689
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,920
instead of making it third and
eight, it's third and two or

690
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,480
third and three and then
everything's open.

691
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,360
And and you all both know it's
like because we as fans just

692
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,400
say, what are they going to do?
And they just going to run a

693
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,960
little zone read option.
They just going to run off

694
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,520
tackle inside zone, power run.
Everything's open and the

695
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,720
defense got to guess.
And if defense screws up and

696
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:27,960
guesses on our team and I know
we're not always pumping them

697
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,600
up, but if you screw up and mess
around with our team and

698
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,000
somebody gets it and there's
nobody there, it's not a 10 yard

699
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,040
gain, it's 30, it's 40 or it's a
house call and then you sit over

700
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,280
here right now we're down.
All right, let me let me get off

701
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,600
that because I can go on
forever.

702
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,280
This was bad.
Now it seems better tally

703
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,040
throughout the game, tech techs
and X back on the sideline

704
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,080
exert.
Then I saw the Tooting play and

705
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,040
it was just like oh God here we
go again.

706
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,560
But if y'all didn't get to hear
it and prize presser, I know we

707
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,440
were trying to listen to it
while we were working.

708
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,480
Both are probable.
And did y'all see the J Lane

709
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,200
interview?
Yeah, yeah, I've seen the clip

710
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,120
from it.
Did you?

711
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,760
See.
Go ahead, Tally.

712
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,880
And for those who haven't seen
it, what J Lane said about Basil

713
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,600
Thuden.
He did pretty much said he was a

714
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,440
drama queen whenever he gets
hurt and that he will be fine.

715
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,280
He'd be ready to go.
So you know, it's just a team

716
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,080
thing, man.
They, you know, they talk to

717
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,200
each other all the time, They
seeing each other all the time.

718
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,480
So you know, they won't they
want their brother to be out

719
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,840
there ready to play.
But you know, there is something

720
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,840
that you still got to worry
about because if he if he is a

721
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,640
little GIMP, you know what I'm
saying, he's going to get nicked

722
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,600
up in the game.
You know, you got to find some

723
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,040
ways to, you know, protect him
and also, you know, when you

724
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:51,640
have a ankle sprain or something
like that, you know it it could

725
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,480
cause you not to have the same
burst that you have without

726
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:58,480
having that ankle sprain.
So something to keep an eye on.

727
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,320
But even more than that, which
is really important.

728
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,840
You know, X has got nicked up a
lot.

729
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,120
You know, it's not just been one
thing that you can pick or two

730
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:13,120
things like, you know, shoulder
knee, one game, ankle one game.

731
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,640
So that's a big man, you know
what I'm saying?

732
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,000
Every time he goes down, you
like, oh Lord, because it's a

733
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,280
big, He's a big piece of the big
piece of the puzzle that we need

734
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,560
to move forward and be good.
Yeah, and I mean, we talked

735
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,880
about the, you know, the the PFF
grades there and he didn't have

736
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,360
good Pratt Pass programs in this
in this particular matchup.

737
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,360
And you know, some of that can
be attributed to pretty much

738
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:38,920
having a a bum shoulder for the
majority of the snaps he saw in

739
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,840
that game.
But you know, to me, Pride

740
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,480
coming out and saying two
players are probable to play

741
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,880
means they're playing because
Pride is very, he's very

742
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,480
forthcoming with a lot of
things, but he is rarely

743
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,080
forthcoming with the status of a
player that is injured.

744
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,520
So if he's being forthcoming
with that, then they're playing.

745
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,480
This is true.
Very true.

746
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,160
All right.
Let's wrap this up real quick.

747
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,440
Kind of put the last two
questions back-to-back.

748
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,360
Brian, anything that you weren't
prepared for Saturday while

749
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,960
looking at tape during the game?
I know you were doing some

750
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,840
things.
I thought we would win more in

751
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,400
the receiving game.
I thought it was going to be a

752
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:29,360
similar situation to like we saw
against Stanford where you know

753
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,720
they might load the box.
They already have a pretty good

754
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,920
rush defense, but we'll be able
to take advantage of some of

755
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,320
what they do in the secondary,
and for a variety of reasons

756
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,040
that just never came to fruition
outside of a handful of plays.

757
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,080
All right, tally anything you
want purple because you watched

758
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,400
it in live in color with your
shirt off.

759
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,880
Walk around the house.
Yeah, I mean, pretty much what

760
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,960
Brian said that when you talk
about the passing game, but I'll

761
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,080
go a little bit step farther.
Like I wasn't prepared for us to

762
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,440
not be productive in the passing
game like I thought we would be

763
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,040
and still win the game by two,
two touchdowns.

764
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,760
You know what I'm saying?
Like that was pretty impressive.

765
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,880
I guess you can play because I
talked to Chris a lot, you know,

766
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,480
shout out to Chris Lester, my
guy.

767
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,160
And we talked about like this
was going to be the game where

768
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,160
they were going to load the box,
we were going to have to throw

769
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,560
the ball and going to make Kyron
beat us with his arm and we beat

770
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,440
him about two touchdowns.
Still wasn't as effective as I

771
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:35,280
thought we would be or needed to
be, but still 1:21 to 6:00 so I

772
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:39,720
wouldn't prepare for that.
Yeah, gritty, gritty win for a

773
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:43,200
team that under pride hasn't had
a ton of wins like that.

774
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:44,920
Right?
So still.

775
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,840
Double digits, but it didn't
feel double digits.

776
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:50,800
No, it was, it was a, it was a
very tightly contested game

777
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,320
despite like I said, having the
the arm's length lead for for

778
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,400
the majority of that game.
So yeah, I agree with you,

779
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,920
Tally.
All right, y'all heard mine a

780
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,680
little earlier.
It's just the defensive snap

781
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,200
counts because a lot of young
guys getting involved, the

782
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,160
rotations getting heavier,
Burgos playing a lot, Nelson

783
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,200
playing a lot Ace and Steven
getting 10 snaps APR, the

784
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,280
defensive tackles keeping that
rotation.

785
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,040
That's what I love to see
because as the season gets on,

786
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,480
especially the defense,
everybody gets nicked.

787
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,440
And now it's that point where if
you see Aeson Stevens in like he

788
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,160
got 10 steps, but if you see him
pop in, it's like it's all

789
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,760
right.
He he can get things done.

790
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,600
He's been in there for 10 steps
and you call his name at least

791
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,160
two times in those ten snaps.
I mean, he's making his presence

792
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,520
felt within those 10 plays.
Yep, all.

793
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,800
Right.
What can we do better moving

794
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,800
forward?
Jonathan Talley.

795
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,920
Passing game we got to do, we
got to make that passing game

796
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,800
better, whether that's getting,
you know, separation or that's,

797
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,480
you know, hitting those crossing
routes or if that's calling some

798
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,440
like everything in the passing
and we got to do it better.

799
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,040
I mean, you got to have an
identity, but you can't be A1

800
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,840
dimensional team and and win
these last four games.

801
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,000
You know, we don't need all
hands on deck.

802
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,160
So we got to get that passing
game moving, you know, in the

803
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,920
right direction.
Ron.

804
00:45:14,720 --> 00:45:19,120
We've got to start connecting on
some of those deep one-on-one

805
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:25,120
opportunities because you you
can get yourself out of some

806
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,040
stacked boxes if you start
making defenses pay for that.

807
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,240
And I think we did a better job
of that last year than we've

808
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:35,160
done at any point this year.
I think scheme wise, we've hit

809
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,280
some big plays this year.
I don't think we went out there

810
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,560
and won a ton of one-on-one
matchups with the deep ball down

811
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,720
the field.
All right, there we go there and

812
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:49,000
mine is just keep finishing,
keep finishing, drive in the red

813
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,800
zone, keep finishing like we did
at the end, keep finishing teams

814
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,480
off on 3rd and 4th down.
Because if you keep doing that

815
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,880
effectively, you break teams
wills when you do that, when you

816
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,200
keep scoring touchdowns or would
they get inside the red zone?

817
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,560
They can't score or they kick
field goals.

818
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,560
You, you, you just kind of see
it on people's faces in their

819
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,560
hearts.
It's like, man, we just they're

820
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,200
going to get in or we ain't
getting in.

821
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,520
And and that's one of those
things it builds confidence when

822
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,360
you see the D confidence that
the other team has.

823
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,080
All righty, as you all know, we
are brought to you by the counts

824
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,000
family pharmacy, your friendly
neighborhood pharmacy, three O 1

825
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,240
S Main St. in Blacksburg.
Let's get over.

826
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,480
Let's get to know the enemy and
let's talk about the Syracuse

827
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,880
Orange man current record of
five and two.

828
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,000
And we do want to start with
their offensive side of the

829
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,720
ball.
And Brian, this offense is led

830
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:49,040
by Jeff Nixon and Co OC Michael
Johnson.

831
00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:51,880
Give us a little info on these
two guys.

832
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:55,320
Yeah, it's very much a, it's a
spread offense.

833
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,720
I mean you're getting A and it's
a throw first offense.

834
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:01,240
It's very it's kind of air raid
esque, but they definitely throw

835
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:03,680
the ball down feel a little bit
more than you would be used to

836
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:08,000
in an air raid concept there.
They care a lot more about just

837
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,560
getting those the ball in those
playmakers hands and they do

838
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,320
about any sort of offensive
balance.

839
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:19,240
I mean it it's basically a 6535
pass to to run there and at

840
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:21,120
times it doesn't even feel like
that.

841
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:26,160
They are very much a a pass
first offense and it starts and

842
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,800
ends with Kyle McCord.
All right, Callie, let's get

843
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,160
some background on McCord
because I think most people know

844
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,080
him.
Oh, Kyle McCord transferred in

845
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:41,280
from Ohio State.
He is a New Jersey kid, I

846
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:46,200
believe, had some good offers
coming out of high school.

847
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,720
High 4 star, I think 92 was
about where he was at.

848
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,080
Came in highly, you know, in the
transport portal, highly, highly

849
00:47:54,080 --> 00:48:00,480
ranked, came to Syracuse.
And for the most part, you know,

850
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,200
he's been effective this year.
He's kind of been AI don't know

851
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,000
a tale of two years, two halves
for him.

852
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,720
I heard early in the season how
great he was.

853
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,760
But then I also heard later in
the season was, see, there he

854
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,640
is.
That's why you know, he had to

855
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,960
leave Ohio State because he
couldn't make stuff work with

856
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,560
those wide receivers he had
there.

857
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,840
He never going to be able to
make it work.

858
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,400
So anyway, stat wise, we know he
has 19 touchdowns and 11

859
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,240
interceptions.
How many came last Thursday?

860
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,920
Say. 5506 was it 5 or 655 and
1:00?

861
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,920
Three of them were picked.
Six of the pick now I will say

862
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,000
this and I'll let you know
Brian, get into it a little bit.

863
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,560
I've learned to try to, you
know, go week by week with these

864
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,120
talking about teams and looking
at teams.

865
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,760
And also I try to just wait till
we're getting ready to play them

866
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,640
because I heard that this team
was Syracuse at the beginning of

867
00:48:58,640 --> 00:48:59,800
the season, same as Georgia
Tech.

868
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,200
All they're going to kill us
all.

869
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,160
They're just so talented.
They this well, I'm looking at

870
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,160
their record.
I've never paid attention to it.

871
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:12,120
Syracuse played Ohio beat them
38 to 22.

872
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:19,840
Georgia Tech beat them 31 to 28.
Stanford lost to them. 2624 Holy

873
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:27,320
Cross, 42 to 14, UNLV, they won
44 to 41 in overtime.

874
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,440
North Carolina State, they beat
them 24 to 17.

875
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:40,120
And then Pitt, they got Skull
Drug 41 to 13, which so again,

876
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,040
you kind of see, like, of
course, every team's different,

877
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,840
every week's different.
But I think Pitt's defense was

878
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:51,960
something more than Syracuse has
seen this season.

879
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,040
You know, even Georgia Tech
being a solid team early in the

880
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,960
season, their defense ain't on
the level that pits is.

881
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,640
I don't think they defense on
the level ours is.

882
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,960
So I'll go right there.
Brian, what you think about Mr.

883
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,920
McCord?
Yeah.

884
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,880
I mean, you kind of said it.
And I mean, when we look at what

885
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,320
he does, he's really a pocket
oriented gunslinger.

886
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,400
He's got some athletic ability,
but he's not a guy that's going

887
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,920
to take off and run
consistently.

888
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,080
That's not his bread and butter.
He's the guy that's going to

889
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,440
sling it from the the pocket
there.

890
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,320
And I emphasize gunslinger in
the Brett Favre sense of the

891
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,880
word, that it's either going to
be something big or it's going

892
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,720
to be an interception.
Anything can happen.

893
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:42,880
Literally he throws on the run
pretty well, but again, still

894
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,240
less of a threat to kind of take
off in that aspect.

895
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,520
And and from a arm talent
standpoint, I mean, he can make

896
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,440
all the throws, but he is risky
with the football.

897
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,440
You know, in the pit game, you
look at that three of those

898
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,520
interceptions, all three of the
ones that were pick sixes were

899
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,400
bad throws.
Not not, not not throws that you

900
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,320
should be making in those
situations.

901
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,360
You got, you got to be smarter
with the football there.

902
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,680
You know, he had a couple that
were just, you know, tip balls

903
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,920
probably probably shouldn't have
taken the risk, but it, it was a

904
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,120
calculated 1 and things just
went the other way.

905
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,400
But we're going to get some
opportunities to, to have the

906
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,480
ball go in our direction with,
with Common Core throwing the

907
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,760
ball.
But he is going to make our guys

908
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:34,360
cover, you know, 5 receivers
6570% of the time.

909
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,520
So we're going to have to be
ready.

910
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,080
We're going to have to take
tackles because they're going to

911
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,560
want to get that ball in the
open space.

912
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,920
That last three games, do you
know how many times he's threw

913
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:43,400
the ball?
How?

914
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,400
Many.
Against Pitt, he threw the ball

915
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:57,800
64 times, Against North Carolina
State he threw the ball 42 times

916
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:04,080
and against UNLV they went into
overtime, he threw the ball 63

917
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,920
times.
I can't believe his arm mate

918
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,600
fell off.
That ain't that's just the last

919
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:11,920
three.
I ain't even going into the

920
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,040
other games.
Lord have mercy.

921
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,720
Lord have mercy.
Well, hold on, let let me do

922
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:19,080
something real quick here
because I guess I'm up to look.

923
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,040
So that's like 160 times.
He threw it 42 when they lost to

924
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,880
Stanford.
Who was 42 and they lost to

925
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:30,160
Stanford.
And hold on, I got it up here.

926
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,600
I'm going to talk about in a
second couple of the guys Brian

927
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,320
picked out to say we got to talk
about these two guys who he

928
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,400
throws to cause sort of the
whole thing.

929
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,600
He's went 364 in seven game, 346
in seven games.

930
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:46,440
He's throwing the ball 50 * a
game.

931
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,520
Karen.
Damn, T he going to throw it 50

932
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,800
times?
Yeah, that's if they win or they

933
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,480
lose.
So let's talk about a couple

934
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,800
guys he's throwing to.
I want to talk about Brian, the

935
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,560
first one here because he's
listed as a tight end, but you

936
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,760
know, sometimes they lie because
he was listed on 247 as a wide

937
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:08,680
receiver.
Ron Gadsden, the second out of

938
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,240
American Heritage down to Fort
Lauderdale, was a 84 when he

939
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:16,240
came out.
So a low three star, even though

940
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:22,280
his dad was a NFL wide receiver
on the Dolphins for five seasons

941
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,880
back in the late 90s.
Two thousands.

942
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,920
So obviously he's got a
bloodline there so far this

943
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,840
season, 35 catches for 466
yards.

944
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,160
His Big Bang game was against
UNLV.

945
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:40,960
He went 10 for 1:42 and a for 10
for 142.

946
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:44,880
Big piece about him right now.
He's got only three touchdowns

947
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:49,560
this year in those seven games.
So Brian, he's 65.

948
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,960
He's about 2:15.
Tell me what to do with him.

949
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,640
Yeah, I mean, he's he's
definitely the classic Joker

950
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,520
tight end.
Yeah, he's not going to, you

951
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,200
know, be a guy that's, you know,
running a quick hitch or or a

952
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,080
huge red zone threat.
But he is a guy that will run

953
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,560
the seam in the wheel with
regularity.

954
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:13,760
He's a guy that they'll use on
those quick hitters.

955
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,320
So I don't know if we'll see, I
don't know if we'll see that

956
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,080
that damn RPO to the tight end
like we've seen every other team

957
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,120
run against us in the last
month.

958
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:31,680
But he has the capability of
turning that into a, you know,

959
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,960
pretty, pretty good play there.
Yeah.

960
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,640
So he's the guy that we're going
to to to keep our eyes on.

961
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,160
Like I said, I'm more worried
about him up the sea and on

962
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,680
those wheel routes than I am
necessarily doing anything near

963
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,200
the red zone.
All right, got that noted.

964
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,800
All right.
Next guy I want to talk about is

965
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,240
a guy by the name of Jackson
Meeks.

966
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,840
And Charlie, I'm on pivot to you
in just a second before Brian

967
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,360
jumps on him.
Jackson Meeks, originally a

968
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:04,720
recruit to Georgia back in the
year 2021 Central High School,

969
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:12,760
Phoenix City, Alabama, and so
far this season, 43 catches, 512

970
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:17,360
yards, 4 touchdowns.
He's got the last five, excuse

971
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,560
me, the last six games, well, we
have been over 8 plus

972
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:28,400
receptions, 2 / 10 of those,
2110 for 161 against Holy Cross.

973
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,160
That makes sense that he
absolutely torched NC State 11

974
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:35,360
for 1/16 and a touchdown tally.
Let's get a little bit of

975
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,280
background on him.
Phoenix City and Central, What

976
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,720
type of program is that down
there?

977
00:55:39,720 --> 00:55:41,000
A.
Beast.

978
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,160
Everybody who's good from
Alabama comes from now.

979
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,240
I'm pretty sure there are 7A
schools, so biggest in the state

980
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:54,600
of Alabama.
They continue to pump out talent

981
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,920
every year.
I can't remember the name, but

982
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:03,800
Auburn's freshman wide receiver
that they got last year, he

983
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,880
looks like Megatron.
He came from Central Central.

984
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,840
Phoenix City played basketball
as well.

985
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,760
I'll find his name here in a
minute.

986
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:17,040
But yeah, Phoenix City is always
a great school, always very,

987
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,840
very talented in every sport.
But definitely they're bread and

988
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,200
butter football like they
that's, that's what they do

989
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,080
that.
So anybody coming from that

990
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,080
program is usually pretty
talented.

991
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:33,840
All right, Brian, would you see
on film?

992
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,800
Yeah, I mean, he's there.
Definitely their best all around

993
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,240
wide receiver.
He can do a little bit of

994
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:41,280
everything.
He can move the sticks.

995
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:45,160
He can catch him down the field
really good at at high point the

996
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:49,720
ball and uses his size to kind
of get that position on those

997
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:52,120
deep balls down the field or in
in those stick moving

998
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,880
situations.
So really got we got to kind of

999
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,400
look at in all aspects of his
game because he can definitely

1000
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,520
beat you a bunch of different
ways.

1001
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,360
All righty tell who we were
looking at next.

1002
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,520
We'll go to Lapointe Allen, the
running back.

1003
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:14,080
He was a three star coming out
of high school, New Jersey kid

1004
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,960
didn't have a ton of offers.
You know it have UVA in there,

1005
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:25,640
Temple, Rutgers, Syracuse.
So ended up going to Syracuse.

1006
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:30,280
He's a 2022 kid.
He so he's a junior.

1007
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:38,680
He's got about 109 carries this
year for 481, so 4 touchdowns.

1008
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,000
So that's what the stats that we
have on him.

1009
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,840
Brian, what kind of film do you
have on him?

1010
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,440
Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll
make a note here.

1011
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,600
He's 3rd on the team in
receptions right now.

1012
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,360
I'd say he's a threat as a
runner and a receiver.

1013
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,440
I, I, I'd consider him just
probably a little bit more of a

1014
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,400
receiving threat than than as a
runner.

1015
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:03,840
You know, he's a, he's a, I'd
say an average ACC running back,

1016
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,160
but he's a very good receiving
threat, really good to the

1017
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,920
screen game and in space.
And he catches just like a, a

1018
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,000
wide receiver.
So he's got really good hands.

1019
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,200
All righty, Brian, one last
piece to flip on.

1020
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,280
Let's talk about the offensive
line.

1021
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,200
You know, what did you see on
tape that any numbers

1022
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,640
specifically stand out to you?
I mean, they they surrender a

1023
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,600
lot of sacks.
Good.

1024
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:36,520
We can.
We can sack this, we can sack

1025
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,960
this quarterback especially.
They struggled a lot with elite

1026
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,040
edges one-on-one and they
struggle a lot when you bring

1027
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,360
some pressure packages.
So we should be able to get to

1028
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,360
the backfield.
The questions going to be do we

1029
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,520
get home?
Are they going to try to get rid

1030
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,360
of the ball quickly?
Are they are we going to let

1031
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,760
them get open quickly in the
snap?

1032
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:59,400
That's really going to be, you
know, whether or not we struggle

1033
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,320
with this offense is whether or
not we can get pressure on

1034
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,920
McCord with with regularity.
And y'all wondering how bad they

1035
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,000
are?
They are 97th in sacks allowed,

1036
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:15,120
about 2 1/2 per game.
And obviously we played

1037
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,160
Stanford.
We know Stanford's fast rush is

1038
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:20,800
not what it is.
Pitt usually has 1.

1039
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,960
And I have to go look up at
those numbers.

1040
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,400
But just kind of look here,
Brian, you said the tackle

1041
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,760
struggle and it does show that
they're two highest tackles City

1042
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,800
on Washington, Demetrius
Witherspoon, they both get over

1043
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,760
500 snaps.
You do the mathematics in seven

1044
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,360
games.
That makes sense that they're

1045
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:44,040
pretty much the starters.
Washington 62 graded in pass

1046
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,680
block in Witherspoon, you know,
67.

1047
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,400
So not that elite where you want
to be.

1048
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:54,840
When you look at the competition
they played, that's more of the

1049
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,920
issue there.
It's who you played.

1050
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,320
Y'all should be easily in the
70s.

1051
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,560
You're in the 60s and you have
not played an elite pass rusher

1052
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,040
and we.
And as soon as they ramped it up

1053
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:06,920
last week, we saw what the fuck
happened.

1054
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,720
You went on mute, Curtis.
Can you hear me now on mute?

1055
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:19,440
Yes, Sir.
Oh man, it didn't messed up

1056
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,720
Umamento.
I'm back.

1057
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,800
He broke it.
Maybe I'm not.

1058
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:32,440
Yeah, you're good, You're good.
I don't know, it's, it's all

1059
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,760
jacked up with me.
All right, So this thing just

1060
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,320
has a mind of its own.
Let's go over to the defensive

1061
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:45,720
side of the ball led by Elijah
Robinson and Robert Wright.

1062
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,200
I know I read earlier this week
that Robinson is the play

1063
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:50,560
caller.
Brian, what kind of scheme are

1064
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,240
they looking at here?
Yes, it's a familiar one here,

1065
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,440
buddy.
It's a 425 very pressure

1066
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,400
oriented scheme.
They mix up their their their

1067
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,040
pressures a lot.
They're they're very much not a

1068
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:04,200
predictable team.
They're not just going to blitz

1069
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,840
on obvious downs.
They're going to confuse you.

1070
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,240
They're going to bring bring
pressure from different levels.

1071
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,680
They can bring pressure on
different down and distances.

1072
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,520
So they're going to keep you on
your toes a little bit with how

1073
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:22,480
they attack an offensive line.
All right, Tally who you got up

1074
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,520
first because I, I, I know you,
you're addressing what always

1075
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:31,760
worries you with teams.
Mr. Fidel digs a big time

1076
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,360
recruit coming out of high
school, you know, pretty much a

1077
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:42,960
five star, you know, 4 star high
4*5* player transferred in from

1078
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:48,200
Texas A&M to Syracuse this this
year.

1079
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:54,200
Again, big time player had all
the offers, all the SEC schools

1080
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,080
and he's he's, he's a solid
player.

1081
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,480
Been, you know, going to be a
nightmare for somebody coming

1082
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:05,240
off the edge, which Brian
probably would be a nightmare

1083
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:06,920
for somebody coming off the
edge.

1084
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:11,600
No disrespect to Brian, but I'm
just saying we got to do some

1085
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,320
things that's going to
neutralize him because he can

1086
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,760
cause some problems.
Probably what you got on Mr.

1087
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,520
Deeds.
Yeah, I mean his initial step,

1088
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:24,120
he's really good off the snap,
probably not elite from a

1089
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:30,160
complete Rep standpoint, but
really good get off really

1090
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:34,400
strong hands, can use those to
kind of get get tackles off

1091
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,040
balance.
Shed shed the blocker there, but

1092
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,680
when he gets home he's a pretty
good tackler.

1093
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:43,400
He he he definitely has a a
tendency when he gets there he's

1094
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:47,720
going to get you on the ground.
So he's going to be a handful

1095
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,440
and and hopefully a certain
somebody doesn't see a whole lot

1096
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:56,600
of him he's.
Got 4 sacks as well. 8 1/2

1097
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,840
tackles for loss, too, and he's
got like 30 tackles in general.

1098
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,960
So it shows a little bit of a
motor from the end position.

1099
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,760
So he is definitely somebody we
have to keep an eye on it.

1100
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,880
We've got to neutralize.
You tell me he's got one sack or

1101
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,440
less.
I will feel good about Saturday.

1102
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,320
Honestly, I'd feel great about
Saturday.

1103
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,840
All right, I'm gonna go to the
back end, Brian, because they've

1104
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:25,360
got a pretty damn good
cornerback there by the name of

1105
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:28,360
Clarence Lewis.
Clarence is from New Jersey.

1106
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,600
He went to Maitre-d' high school
in Middletown.

1107
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,680
The class of 2020, initially
went to Notre Dame.

1108
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,400
Now coming out not looked as a
high star recruit, just an 87.

1109
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,960
So kind of in that middle range
there.

1110
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:44,400
But you know, you take a look at
what he's done so far in just a

1111
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:51,040
few seasons or in, excuse me, in
this season at Syracuse, so far,

1112
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,280
16 tackles.
He's already got a pick.

1113
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,560
He's got 5 past deflections in
seven games.

1114
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,520
That tells me he's keeping an
eye on things.

1115
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,960
He goes and gets it.
His career at Notre Dame where

1116
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,560
effectively he played four full
seasons.

1117
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:11,080
So this is his COVID season
while he was there. 3 picks

1118
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:15,640
along with 18 past deflections
in Four Seasons.

1119
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,680
Obviously he would have solved
some of these Hokies way back.

1120
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:24,920
It would have been what, 2021
when he was a true sophomore

1121
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,120
there?
If y'all can remember, we played

1122
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,880
them because he did play in all
13 games.

1123
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:35,760
Don't remind me of that game.
I'm just saying he's seen some

1124
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,520
people on this team, not many of
them, but some of them.

1125
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:39,840
But what?
What's he got, Brian?

1126
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,960
Yeah, he's a very, very strong
zone coverage cornerback.

1127
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,640
Really good at reading routes,
anticipating throws.

1128
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,560
When it comes to man coverage,
I'd, I'd give him an average

1129
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,040
grade.
He's really good.

1130
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:59,920
Kind of early in the in the snap
we look at things like double

1131
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:02,200
moves or tracking the ball deep
down field.

1132
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:03,920
That's where he struggles at
times.

1133
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,720
You know, you can get some
penalties on him, you can get

1134
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,040
beat.
He doesn't really do a good job

1135
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,720
of tracking the ball and going
and get it in the air that way.

1136
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,920
But when it comes to breaking on
a ball in those short to

1137
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,800
intermediate zones, that's where
he's really strong all.

1138
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:27,640
Righty Valley, we got one more
gentleman to look at who was our

1139
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,040
last contestant with Know the
Enemy.

1140
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,120
Yeah.
So Mr. Justin Baron, he's a

1141
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,720
senior.
Many thought he was going to go

1142
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,040
in the draft last year, but he
ended up coming back, I think

1143
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:45,840
for his fifth year to try to put
on and do something special at

1144
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:50,480
Syracuse.
He's a 64225 back there in

1145
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:56,920
defensive back this year.
Looks like he is got about 25.

1146
01:05:57,440 --> 01:06:05,120
I'm sorry, 42 tackles, 25 of
them are solo tackles, one INT.

1147
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,040
He was about a three star player
coming out of high school.

1148
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:13,680
Had a couple of offers from some
ACC schools, Boston College

1149
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:17,360
being one of them.
And of course, Syracuse is where

1150
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,080
he went.
So yeah, it looks solid back

1151
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:22,480
there.
Looks like a, you know, physical

1152
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,560
specimen.
Brian, what you got on when you

1153
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,240
see tape?
Yeah.

1154
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,120
And, and he's kind of been a guy
that's moved in different spots

1155
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:31,800
on this defense as we've gotten
into the season.

1156
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,040
He's kind of settled in an
outside linebacker despite

1157
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,120
having that defensive back
pedigree.

1158
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,440
So he's kind of that converted
safety, played outside

1159
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,960
linebacker, Rover and free at
various points in his career

1160
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,800
with Syracuse.
Good tackler, you know, above

1161
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,400
average quickness, what you
would expect from a safety, but

1162
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,400
you know, much like that he can
get swallowed when he's inside

1163
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,080
of the box.
They're a little undersized

1164
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:03,800
overall and doesn't have a ton
of experience playing in the box

1165
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:08,280
between the tackles all.
Righty, so there are three guys

1166
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,040
we are looking at this week.
I'm going to throw another name

1167
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,920
to your cuz we're probably going
to hear his name a lot Saturday

1168
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,720
just because of where he plays
Mike linebacker Derek McDonald,

1169
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,680
48 total tackles Ty with bearing
for the lead.

1170
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,800
He is in the middle of that
defense.

1171
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,640
So if you hear that name a lot,
don't be shocked.

1172
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:28,800
But y'all, let's let's go over
we.

1173
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,160
We know what they do.
We know they do have some

1174
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,600
weapons.
We do see some things we do and

1175
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,520
don't like, but let's talk about
what our keys to this victory

1176
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,200
are.
Tally and we'll let you get up

1177
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,240
to the plate 1st and Smash 1
here.

1178
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:49,600
Yeah, so let me see, Keys to
Victory for me is going to be

1179
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,440
secondary.
You got to earn your reputation.

1180
01:07:53,800 --> 01:08:00,960
You know, we got a all ACC all
American cornerback back there

1181
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,600
and Dorian Strong.
Well, guess what buddy?

1182
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,680
You going to get your
opportunity to wear that satchel

1183
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,160
with some pride this week
because they're probably going

1184
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,920
to drop back and throw the ball
50 times.

1185
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,439
I think defensive lines don't
try to get to the quarterback.

1186
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,520
He's going to get the
opportunity to pick something

1187
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,479
off.
You know, we got to know what we

1188
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:23,920
doing.
Hey, let's take one to the

1189
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,560
house, man.
Let's say we want to be DBU.

1190
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,439
Let's just be DBU.
So that's what I'm saying.

1191
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,080
Secondary, you don't have to
earn your stripes this week.

1192
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:36,600
All righty, Brian, what about
you?

1193
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,760
No slow starts on offense.
Get Kyron comfortable early.

1194
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,840
Establish the line of scrimmage
with the run game.

1195
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,840
Get out there, score a
touchdown, get some points on

1196
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:50,479
the board.
Put the pressure on that

1197
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:55,800
Syracuse offense to have to keep
pace with us from an offensive

1198
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,279
standpoint.
All right, we will have Sheldon

1199
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,040
here this week.
Shelton actually went on the

1200
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,680
inactive list very early today.
1 going to be able to make it.

1201
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,600
Shelton, we miss you as always
this week and I know you hate

1202
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,160
this stat, but I think it's when
we've got to live by.

1203
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,680
The mantra is it's going to be
money downs on both sides of the

1204
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:20,040
football.
So at converting third downs,

1205
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,520
Syracuse is 6 in the country.
They convert almost half of

1206
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:27,479
their third downs. 3rd down
defense.

1207
01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,680
They ain't too shabby as well.
They are the 12th ranked third

1208
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:36,520
down defense in the country with
teams converting less than 30%

1209
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:40,800
on them.
So there's two ways about this

1210
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,120
right?
Offense, Don't ever get to 3rd

1211
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,479
down.
Get it on 1st and 2nd.

1212
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:49,040
Don't ever get to 3rd down.
Don't let us strength defense

1213
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:55,880
upfront.
APR Peebles, all y'all go eat,

1214
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:59,800
make the third downs damn near
impossible for them to get to.

1215
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:06,000
And when it's third and 10 and
3rd and 11 attacks attack finish

1216
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,440
at the quarterback.
But that is 2 of their

1217
01:10:08,440 --> 01:10:11,920
strengths.
So going to wrap that up.

1218
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,720
That's our three keys to
victory.

1219
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:19,200
And Brian, how do you see this
one playing out and what's your

1220
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,800
prediction for the game?
Yeah, I I think the Hokies stand

1221
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,840
this one.
I think it may end up being a

1222
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,160
little bit more of a grind than
we want it to be, but I think we

1223
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,400
get the job done.
At the end of the day, give me

1224
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:36,560
2721 Hokies.
All righty, I'm going to go next

1225
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,960
because Tally, you're
officially, you're officially in

1226
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:44,000
the clean up position for the
rest of the year rest.

1227
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,520
Of the year.
I'm also going to go Hokies on

1228
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,280
this one, especially once the
news with Chaplain and Tooting

1229
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:53,880
came out that they're likely
going to play, probably going to

1230
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:58,320
be playing through some pain.
We are Four Point Rd. favorites.

1231
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:59,560
That was the last time I
checked.

1232
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:00,960
I don't know if that's went up
or down.

1233
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,640
I was a little bit starting.
At 3 1/2 bumped up to four.

1234
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:04,800
I don't.
I don't think it's changed

1235
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:06,280
since.
I don't think it's changed since

1236
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:13,000
then, but I'm going to go 2823
and I think it's going to be the

1237
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:14,800
Syracuse is going to have their
own undoing.

1238
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,040
They're going to be at like the
15.

1239
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,960
It's going to be like 4th and
five would like 8 minutes to go

1240
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,040
and they go kick a field goal
and then we're going to bleed

1241
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,480
out the clock.
We're going to bleed out the

1242
01:11:25,480 --> 01:11:27,040
clock.
They will get the ball back with

1243
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:31,920
about 9 seconds left and Dorian
Strongs on get a pick to seal

1244
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:35,240
the game.
If all that happened.

1245
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,600
Curtis Curtis got a script.
Yeah, I'm going to say if all

1246
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,800
that happened, shit, we're going
to let Curtis go pick some

1247
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,440
numbers.
If all that happens, yeah,

1248
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,320
we'll, we'll be, we'll be going,
we'll be going to the grocery

1249
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,320
store and buying a lottery
ticket Saturday night.

1250
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,840
Yeah, exactly.
Well, hey, I got to stay true,

1251
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,640
man.
Bulletin board material.

1252
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,200
I'm going with QS, man.
I'm going with QS.

1253
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:02,760
I'm going to say QS 3521.
You know, I haven't seen us

1254
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,960
really win a close game yet.
A lot of people think it's going

1255
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,480
to be close.
And again, two of our losses

1256
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:14,640
have been on the road.
So they've been proving me wrong

1257
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,320
the last three games.
I mean they proved me wrong.

1258
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,400
I want them to continue proving
me wrong.

1259
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,400
Plaster me up on the in the in
the locker room and them ugly

1260
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:30,240
ass lockers y'all got and say we
going to prove this guy wrong

1261
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,040
again.
Oh nevermind, we going to their

1262
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,000
house so they lock us.
Might not be ugly, but our lock

1263
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:36,720
us is ugly.
Oh, that place.

1264
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,320
Is have have you seen the Dome?
You know them lock they you got

1265
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,960
to climb stairs to get them some
bitches that.

1266
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,080
Place, by the way, not a way.
And so we hadn't beat Georgia

1267
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:53,440
Tech at home in 12 years.
How long has it been since we

1268
01:12:53,440 --> 01:12:56,920
won in the Dome?
It's been too long, but we

1269
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,160
hadn't played a ton of them.
I played a ton of them, but do

1270
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:05,720
you do you know?
Probably 20.

1271
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:10,320
Go ahead.
I was gonna say 24 years. 24

1272
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:11,960
years.
I was going to take last week's

1273
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:17,000
12, multiply it by 224 years.
NB 7 was the quarterback.

1274
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:21,560
Yeah, yeah, it was 2000.
I was in high school.

1275
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,520
He was in high school.
He was in high school.

1276
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,600
That's how damn long it's been.
It's time.

1277
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:34,000
Curtis is just That's another
way for Curtis to call us old.

1278
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,440
The.
Whole thing about our podcast is

1279
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,280
we don't desire being old.
We don't go out there trying

1280
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,560
that young.
I think I was in middle school.

1281
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,560
Were you?
In middle school in 2000.

1282
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,800
Yeah, well, because the football
season would have been.

1283
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,680
Yeah, never mind, it'd be 20.
I was in high school because I

1284
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,040
graduated in O4.
I was thinking it would have

1285
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,760
been 99 and then, but now it's
the 2000 season.

1286
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,920
The 2000 season so there you got
pressure in high school I'm not

1287
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,920
seeing you in high school all
right let's move on as always,

1288
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,320
we have fun Brian, you didn't
send me the update, man.

1289
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,520
You didn't send me the update.
Send me the update.

1290
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,640
Hang on, hang on.
I don't even.

1291
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:16,600
I think I had a decent week.
I think I did all.

1292
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,720
Right, it's coming your way all.
Right, I'm looking forward now.

1293
01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,000
We are trying to get Shelton's
prediction as well.

1294
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,560
Y'all Shelton again started his
new job last week.

1295
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:26,720
He's trying to find an
apartment.

1296
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,280
He's commuting back and forth.
He's doing all sorts of stuff.

1297
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,240
But there is the big screeners.
Let's get that tabulation up

1298
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:38,400
there, Brian, pop it up.
Week 10 big screeners last week,

1299
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:44,120
believe it or not, Brian,
Talley, Miranda, Jason all went

1300
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:48,520
500 along with Shelton.
Everybody went three and three

1301
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,840
except me four and two back in
the winning category.

1302
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,560
I am above 500.
I'm joining Brian there.

1303
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,120
Curtis is the band.
Curtis is the band.

1304
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,360
I hate the band.
I just, I just hit it right last

1305
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,000
week.
Yeah, you got those feelings.

1306
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,560
You just you go out, you bet
them you feel good about it and.

1307
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,920
Curtis.
Curtis is either, I mean looking

1308
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,920
at it, Curtis is either hitting
three or more right or like 1.

1309
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:19,880
Like, or if you ride with me, be
willing to burn because if it

1310
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,480
starts bad, you're usually going
to be up in flames before we

1311
01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:26,360
figure out anything.
All right, But we got big

1312
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,560
screeners.
Before we go to big screen,

1313
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,720
before we go to big screeners,
Yeah, Just want to ask.

1314
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:36,080
Yeah, besides our game, because
we got our game over with early.

1315
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,280
I was so happy.
Like, I'm OK, I'm OK with the

1316
01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,920
because here's 11:00, watch our
game, we win, I'm having a great

1317
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:45,800
day.
What other games did y'all

1318
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:47,520
watch?
Because I'm going to tell you, I

1319
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:53,760
watched the Vanderbilt, Texas
game and I knew it was going to

1320
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,560
be a close game and Vandy almost
had a chance to pull that game

1321
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:00,720
off.
They did let me think.

1322
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,320
I watched the fourth quarter of
that game.

1323
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:08,320
I watched the early quarters of
the Alabama game blow out.

1324
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,360
I was all over the place.
I was watching mostly highlights

1325
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,720
other than our game because I
was on the road for most of that

1326
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:20,280
and I I didn't get back till
like almost 1030.

1327
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,960
I left at the start of the
fourth quarter for our game.

1328
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:29,360
So that's why Tally was clutch
coming through because ESPN had

1329
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,080
fucked up the game cast.
So you couldn't follow, you

1330
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:34,400
couldn't follow the game on the
on the app.

1331
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,040
I didn't have good enough
service to to stream it on my

1332
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,000
phone, so Tally came through in
the clutch and was giving me the

1333
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,400
giving us the play by play in
real time in the group chat so.

1334
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,120
Hey, the man, Hey the man.
We do it together.

1335
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,840
All right, so there's three.
I watched Tally and then at

1336
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:54,400
night I watched some of the
Miami, FL State game, the LSU,

1337
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:59,960
Texas A&M game, and then I
closed it out watching SMU, Duke

1338
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:04,120
and I, I ain't never seen
anything like y'all.

1339
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,960
You watching that game?
Duke didn't want to win they.

1340
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:09,200
Didn't.
They did not want to win the.

1341
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:12,960
Field goal and you.
I think SMU turned it over six

1342
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,640
times.
Six freaking times.

1343
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,560
Every time they got the ball,
they turned it over and Duke

1344
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:22,480
just couldn't win it.
I feel like we about to talk

1345
01:17:22,480 --> 01:17:24,640
about that a little bit here.
Yeah.

1346
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,080
Oh yeah, we got to talk about
that.

1347
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:31,000
We got to talk about that
because the first game up.

1348
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:33,320
Oh, by the way, there's another
one.

1349
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,200
Hold on, Did y'all watch the
game last Wednesday night?

1350
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:38,560
Tell me y'all watch the end of
it.

1351
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,960
Who wasn't Allstate Liberty?
No, I didn't watch it.

1352
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:46,640
I heard about.
It Kennesaw State is an FCS

1353
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:51,720
transitioning program to FBS.
They had not beaten an FBS team

1354
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:53,840
ever.
Ever.

1355
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,400
And they beat Liberty's ass.
It was such a glorious thing.

1356
01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,800
Yeah, I think I threw the tweet
out there.

1357
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:02,680
I was like, Liberty fans talked
all that shit to lose the

1358
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:04,160
Kennesaw State on a Wednesday
night.

1359
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:09,120
An O and 16.
No one's 16 all right, but let's

1360
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,680
get to them big screeners,
Brian, right out the gate, huge

1361
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:18,000
ACC matchup.
Huge matchup for the Hokies if

1362
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,320
they are to make it to
Charlotte.

1363
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:23,320
Pitt and SMU, both undefeated
and ACC play.

1364
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:28,720
SMU effectively avoided that
bullet Saturday night because

1365
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,960
you couldn't find a guy to kick
a 22 yard field goal for the win

1366
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:34,760
and and then they didn't trust
him enough in overtime.

1367
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:39,400
They had to go for two.
And some of you laying 7 1/2.

1368
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,080
Brian, why'd you pick it and who
you got?

1369
01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:47,200
Yeah, I picked it because this
fucking matters from a Virginia

1370
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,040
Tech standpoint.
If we want to see Charlotte

1371
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:55,240
looking long term big picture
here, you know, we need to at

1372
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,760
this point probably win the
every remaining game on our

1373
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,960
schedule if we want to want to
go and and and play where we

1374
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,160
want to play.
Mainly because if you look at

1375
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,040
the remaining schedule for SMU,
they've got pit and then they

1376
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:11,240
got some mostly light work the
rest of the way.

1377
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:21,880
SMU schedule as far as a first
first time P4 ACC team is as

1378
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,120
cake as they could have lined it
up.

1379
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,000
Just looking at that big
picture, pit really going to be

1380
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,640
really the the biggest test
they're going to have in the

1381
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:38,840
entire slate of the ACCI know
it's at SMU but them getting 7

1382
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:45,080
1/2 is fucking wild to me.
So because honestly, SMU's wins

1383
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:51,040
haven't been that impressive.
So give me pit and I'm I'm

1384
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,280
picking pit here.
So y'all mark this on your

1385
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,360
calendars.
This is a red letter day that

1386
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:03,080
Brian Siegler has chosen Pitt in
any context because I will

1387
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:07,280
usually avoid that team like the
play. 100%, but you had it in

1388
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,600
this one because of the enormity
of the match up.

1389
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,920
Yeah, this this is where the
first of the dominoes have to

1390
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:17,000
fall for the Hokies to make it
in the Hokies or themselves.

1391
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:21,800
Obviously we got to win Saturday
afternoon at Syracuse, but we

1392
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:25,840
take care of that.
We need because by the way, this

1393
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,360
is who Pitt has left BC, not
even at BC.

1394
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,200
So they ain't got to travel a
long ways.

1395
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:32,840
They get to stay at home.
They don't have to play up in

1396
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:38,560
the cold.
They go to UVA and then they got

1397
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,040
Cal at home.
You talk about SMU.

1398
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:42,960
Yeah, SMU.
That's their last three

1399
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:44,520
opponents.
Oh, I thought you said Pitt.

1400
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,320
So that that's why I.
Was no, no, no.

1401
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:48,800
So I was saying this is their
hardest one.

1402
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,720
The the thing I will say if you
take a look, best defense SMU

1403
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,240
seen all year is BYU.
They held him to 15 points.

1404
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:04,320
Give me Pitt, give me the 7 1/2.
Pitt wins a game outright.

1405
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:11,440
Sheldon is riding with you and
me here, Curtis Tell.

1406
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:14,680
Tally what you.
Got I'm riding, I'm riding with

1407
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,320
Pitt too.
Our dudes are going if you give

1408
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,240
him, you give him the ball 6
times, he going to do something

1409
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:24,200
with it.
I don't like it, but if you turn

1410
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,080
that ball over six times, he
probably not losing.

1411
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:32,560
Go ask Syracuse.
Hey, true, true.

1412
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:37,480
Miranda is riding with SMU here,
and the man himself is riding

1413
01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:40,760
with us and Pitt.
Gentlemen, 5:00 to 1:00. 5 to

1414
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:41,720
one.
Yep.

1415
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:43,640
All righty Curtis, where are we
heading?

1416
01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:49,480
We are heading to Death Valley,
South Carolina, Louisville

1417
01:21:49,480 --> 01:21:55,680
versus Clemson, Clemson laying
10 1/2 points here and I chose

1418
01:21:55,680 --> 01:22:00,480
this one obviously because I
know we've got to see.

1419
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,680
We've been probably all watching
Clemson a little bit as they've

1420
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:05,720
been getting closer and closer
to the game.

1421
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,720
This is one week before.
So obviously got to going to

1422
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:12,560
keep an eye out or we'll be
keeping an eye on this game.

1423
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:18,000
Louisville can score and we've
seen that numerous times.

1424
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,240
Louisville don't play much
defense and I think when they go

1425
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,320
down there, they're going to get
locked down defensively.

1426
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,840
I think Clemson is going to be
tuning up to get ready to come

1427
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,480
to Lane Stadium.
I think Clemson wins this one

1428
01:22:31,480 --> 01:22:33,960
big.
They easily cover the 10 1/2.

1429
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,080
I think this is a blowout by 20
plus.

1430
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:41,480
I'm not seeing a blowout here,
but I am seeing a solid Clemson

1431
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:47,560
V14 to 17 points, so I'm riding
with you and the Tigers.

1432
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,560
Sheldon's riding with us too.
Tally you on board.

1433
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:56,080
Oh yeah, I got to go Clemson.
You know, Clemson's had a pretty

1434
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,000
easy schedule, man, besides
Georgia.

1435
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,640
I mean, they, they've been
pretty caked.

1436
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:04,560
So they do got to pay Pitt later
on.

1437
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,040
They play us and they do play
Pitt.

1438
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:11,120
But other than that, man,
they've kind of we'll when I say

1439
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,200
us, we'll see what us do.
But.

1440
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:14,600
They.
Had it pretty.

1441
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,120
They've had it pretty cake.
So we'll see how Clemson handles

1442
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:22,240
Louisville.
Regardless of how our game

1443
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:28,560
shakes out, you know they'll we
should still be top five, top

1444
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:31,320
six team in the conference.
So we'll still be in the top

1445
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,040
heavy end of the of the
conference.

1446
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,280
But hopefully we go ahead and
take care of business this week

1447
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:40,800
and we can actually have some to
to talk about next week with

1448
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:45,600
that Clemson game. 100% Miranda
and Jason.

1449
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,840
Everybody's riding Clemson
Queensland baby.

1450
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:53,000
And if y'all did not know the
clean suite losing streak

1451
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:57,880
snapped last week, it snapped
last week on the Vandy game.

1452
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,240
Yep, everybody pick Vandy.
Vandy snapped our streak.

1453
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:03,440
Mandy Damner won that thing out,
right?

1454
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:05,560
So that was crazy.
All righty.

1455
01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:10,040
Next we have Shelton's pick.
North Carolina, Florida State.

1456
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,760
And as Shelton sent us the text
message of this game, this is

1457
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:16,760
effectively the toilet bowl of
the ACC.

1458
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:22,440
This year, we've got FSU getting
points at home getting 2 1/2

1459
01:24:22,440 --> 01:24:29,280
versus UNCUNC, whose defense has
been trash, Absolutely shut UVA

1460
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,440
down last week, which just makes
you shake your head.

1461
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:37,680
So Brian Sigler, where are you
going with this one?

1462
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,760
I think we're going to get
another Jeff Collins special.

1463
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,240
Give me UNCI don't like anything
that Florida State's doing.

1464
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:47,800
I don't know they they broke,
man.

1465
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:49,720
I don't know what the fuck
happened but they are broke.

1466
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,880
But you know what you just need
though?

1467
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,120
Every time something broke, they
just need somebody who has

1468
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:01,960
something more broken.
And I know they held UVA to 14,

1469
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,640
but that UNC defense has been
just like a paper bag, a wet

1470
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,720
paper bag.
Usually everybody's breaking

1471
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,480
through it.
I think this is FSU's biggest

1472
01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:16,040
win of the year.
They win, they get the points,

1473
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:20,880
FSU high scoring.
Be willing to maybe take the

1474
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:22,840
over on this one.
I don't know what it is I'll

1475
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,080
find.
Florida Stakes is going to is

1476
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,120
going to score points.
Florida State score.

1477
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,760
So OK, hold on, wait a second.
I'm I'm just do something real

1478
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:34,080
real quick here bro.
Over Under 28 points for Florida

1479
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:39,640
State's offense Over Under. 28
points over OK over over.

1480
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:52,160
UNC has given up ready 70344141
at some of their giving UPS.

1481
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:55,920
It don't matter Florida State
anything to score that all

1482
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:00,240
right, They can't catch.
They can't catch.

1483
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,000
They don't have a quarterback
out of three of them to rub

1484
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:07,120
together to make one.
Yeah, All right.

1485
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,920
Sheldon is riding with me.
Tally, we know who you riding

1486
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:16,320
with.
You just gave them away and that

1487
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:21,520
last two wonderful contributors,
North Carolina and Jason, we got

1488
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,120
a split family.
That that was I was most.

1489
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,200
This is the most unexpected
outcome.

1490
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,960
I was not expecting a a split on
this one.

1491
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,720
Me neither.
I thought, I thought this would

1492
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:35,840
lean UNC's way at least 4-2.
But you know what?

1493
01:26:36,480 --> 01:26:39,120
We move.
All right, Sally, where we

1494
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:43,200
going, man?
So next we're going to like,

1495
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:47,560
Curtis said, The big one, Ohio
State and Penn State.

1496
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,760
I hate Penn State, man.
I hate Ohio State, but I hate

1497
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,680
Penn State.
So there's.

1498
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:55,880
No rhyme of reason.
Yeah, there's no rhyme of

1499
01:26:55,880 --> 01:27:00,200
reason.
I'm just going to say Ohio

1500
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:07,760
State's going to win all.
Right, You know what, Penn State

1501
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:12,680
getting 3 1/2 at home just don't
quite sit sit well with me, I

1502
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:13,280
think.
Ohio.

1503
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:14,920
State do it Brian, don't do it
I.

1504
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,840
Think Ohio State pulls out the
West, but I'm going to Penn

1505
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:26,080
State here in that 3 1/2.
So welcome to Jonathan Talley's

1506
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:29,160
Player Hater Ball football game
of the week.

1507
01:27:30,240 --> 01:27:32,840
Hate your whole family.
He hates everything about the

1508
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,360
school.
And listen, I, I think most of

1509
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:38,840
us that are hokey fans, we ain't
too big a fans at either of

1510
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,400
these schools either way.
But with that info that broke,

1511
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,280
and I don't know if this changed
your mind.

1512
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,920
Brian Drew a law is likely to be
a game time decision for Penn

1513
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,040
State.
He's playing, which means, well,

1514
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:52,120
he's going to play.
But when a guy has a game time

1515
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,280
decision, like not even like
he's going to practice and

1516
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:57,640
progress through it.
Like we going to figure out it

1517
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,760
and it's a 12:00 game, which by
the way, I'm going to say

1518
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,360
something.
As much as I hate them, I like

1519
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,000
seeing a night game at Penn
State.

1520
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:06,120
The white out.
It's cool.

1521
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:10,360
What is this game at 12:00?
Could y'all explain that to me?

1522
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,080
It's such stupid.
It's just stupidity.

1523
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,480
We got to stop.
You can't put the game of the

1524
01:28:16,480 --> 01:28:18,320
week at 12.
No.

1525
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:21,600
Not there's only a couple that
can happen with.

1526
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:25,640
I am always fine with the Red
River Shootout being at 12:00.

1527
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:28,520
That's fine.
I'm fine with some rivalry games

1528
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,160
being at 12:00.
This game should be a night

1529
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,120
game.
Fox, shame on you.

1530
01:28:34,440 --> 01:28:41,680
Ohio State by. 10 all right.
And I'm playing the points,

1531
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,640
Shelton.
Sheldon's riding with you.

1532
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:46,120
We already know what Tally's
doing.

1533
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:51,160
Miranda is riding and I am so
low.

1534
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,840
Brian Siegler versus the world,
hey.

1535
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:56,680
Bring it on, bitches.
Let's go.

1536
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:58,480
All right.
All righty, all righty.

1537
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:02,480
So our wonderful contributing
writer Miranda this week is

1538
01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:08,760
going down to Fayetteville, AR
where the Ole Miss Rebels are

1539
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:14,440
playing the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Arkansas is a 7 point home

1540
01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:16,400
favorite.
Brian, what you got?

1541
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:20,480
I think this is going to be
about a 22 touchdown victory for

1542
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:22,160
Ole Miss.
I think they're just going to be

1543
01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,600
too much to handle down there in
Fayetteville.

1544
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,200
I don't think the the Razorbacks
are going to quite have enough

1545
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,240
to keep pace with that offense.
So I'm going to take Ole Miss

1546
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:35,560
here.
All righty, I'm exact opposite

1547
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:38,040
of you.
I think Arkansas does have

1548
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,760
enough in the tank probably to
keep up offensively. 7:00 is way

1549
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:49,480
too much to lay.
And the whole thing is it's

1550
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,920
almost just has not been right
in my opinion since the Kentucky

1551
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,400
game.
They have not been right.

1552
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,040
I mean, if you take a look at
them since Kentucky game a few

1553
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:05,520
weeks ago, like they played
South Carolina, they only scored

1554
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,800
27.
They lost LSU, they scored 26,

1555
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:12,040
they beat Oklahoma, they only
scored 26.

1556
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,840
And then I look at what Arkansas
has done the last few weeks,

1557
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,480
5:00 and 3:00.
Arkansas has been laying some

1558
01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:21,920
points, like Arkansas has been
putting points on the board

1559
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:24,840
against less than average
defenses, 58 last week.

1560
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,440
It's Mississippi State.
I think this is going to be

1561
01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:32,200
entertaining personally, but
give me the Razorbacks and seven

1562
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:36,680
Shelton is with.
Ride with Ole Miss baby.

1563
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,360
Who you riding with, Tally?
Give me Arkansas.

1564
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,520
Any rhyme or reason or just
screwed lane given?

1565
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,960
Vibes.
No it's just vibes man.

1566
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:52,640
I mean Arkansas got a got a ugly
pig as they mascot so they

1567
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:54,160
should be winning this game
right?

1568
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:59,760
You think so?
Hey, Miranda's riding with with

1569
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:07,440
Sheldon and I, and so is Jason.
All righty, we got one MO here

1570
01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:11,280
and obviously that is our Music
Man picking the Florida Georgia

1571
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:25,000
game.
Well, I won't back down.

1572
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:34,520
No, I won't back down.
You can swing me up and get me

1573
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:42,480
to feel, but I won't back down.
Welcome back to another week of

1574
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:46,080
guitar licks and gambling picks.
I'm Jason Long, I took a big

1575
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,720
loss last week, but as the song
says, I'm not going to back

1576
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:50,080
down.
In fact, this week I'm coming

1577
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,920
back stronger than ever.
I did some research, I took

1578
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:56,080
notes, I did math and wrote down
stats and stuff.

1579
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,960
So I am ready folks.
I'm looking at the Florida

1580
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:02,120
Georgia Game, the World's
Largest outdoor cocktail party,

1581
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,400
going on in Jacksonville
Saturday afternoon, and Florida

1582
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,800
started out a little rough, but
they've won three of their last

1583
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:09,240
four games.
Georgia's looked.

1584
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,720
Pretty good all season,
including two weeks ago when

1585
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:13,400
they beat Texas and I lost
money.

1586
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,720
However, they're only two and
five against the spread.

1587
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:20,400
Florida's getting 16 1/2 points
in this game.

1588
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,520
I think they'll at least keep it
around 10.

1589
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,560
So I'm going to go and stick my
neck out there and bet on

1590
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,920
Florida plus 16 1/2 against
Georgia.

1591
01:32:30,280 --> 01:32:34,000
One other little side note, I
noticed the over under was 52

1592
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,960
1/2 points for this game.
I looked it up and that is hit

1593
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,720
for the last 6 times these teams
have met and it's hit the last

1594
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:44,200
two times they've played each
other.

1595
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,720
So I might sprinkle a little
something only over.

1596
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:51,400
And as far as the song goes,
obviously, Gainesville native

1597
01:32:51,440 --> 01:33:07,560
Tom Petty.
The rain, the rain, the rain,

1598
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:25,440
The rain, The rain, The rain,
the rain, the rain.

1599
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:36,920
Hey on a serious note I want to
take a moment to say fare thee

1600
01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,560
well to my guy Phil Lesh.
Thank you for the music.

1601
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:41,760
We'll see you on the other side
for the rest of y'all.

1602
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,680
I'll hopefully see you next week
for another week.

1603
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,280
Guitar licks and gambling picks
have a great week.

1604
01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:52,640
All righty, so there is the
Florida Georgia game, the

1605
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,600
world's largest outdoor cocktail
party.

1606
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,400
We lost Tally, so I'm going to
do a little bit more talking

1607
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:04,480
always for some reason this has
been even though I have like no

1608
01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:06,600
rooting interest.
This is always one of those

1609
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,960
games that has captivated me
since I was a kid like always.

1610
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:14,680
So for Jason, he'll probably be
pairing himself a nice raw old

1611
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,360
fashioned enjoying this one
because he sent us the bed and

1612
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:21,240
slip y'all, he did sprinkle the
money on the over under.

1613
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:27,160
So you know that's there.
And now we got to make our

1614
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:30,000
picks.
So we're going to get tally back

1615
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,760
up and running.
Brian, who do you got?

1616
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,760
I'm going with Georgia here.
I haven't seen anything from

1617
01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:42,200
Florida at this point to inspire
a lot of conference confidence.

1618
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,240
I think Georgia is kind of
settling back in after a little

1619
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:49,640
bit of a tough patch there.
So I'll take Georgia.

1620
01:34:49,760 --> 01:34:54,920
I'll lay the the 16 1/2.
Yeah the 16 1/2 is such a big

1621
01:34:54,920 --> 01:35:03,200
number and but is it big enough
in regardless what this screen

1622
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:07,520
says to me it is too much.
I do think Georgia wins but I

1623
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,960
think the game is a lot closer
than you need to.

1624
01:35:13,160 --> 01:35:16,840
Then they can be left.
I am taking Florida, not Georgia

1625
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,600
fries.
Edit details completely screwed

1626
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,120
that up.
I'll take the L on that one.

1627
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,680
Too well, I'm looking.
Much like Florida will take on

1628
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,280
Saturday.
No, I'm just.

1629
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:29,400
Kidding.
See how it's going to make the

1630
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:30,640
L?
It just ain't going to be about

1631
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,720
16 1/2.
It's going to be about less than

1632
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:37,120
16 1/2 points, but yeah, give
give me Florida on this one.

1633
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:41,640
Sheldon Brown with me, Curtis.
Not us.

1634
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,280
Me.
Yeah, I'm a ride with you too,

1635
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:48,880
Brian, because Georgia's coming
off of a bye week and I think

1636
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:53,160
that they're going to come back
ready to give that final push to

1637
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,720
try to get to the SEC
Championship.

1638
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:57,680
Hey.
No, they ain't.

1639
01:35:59,960 --> 01:36:02,320
Oh yeah, they are.
Yeah, two weeks ago.

1640
01:36:02,840 --> 01:36:06,200
Yeah.
Miranda's riding with us there

1641
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:11,280
and obviously we know Jason is
not riding solo as expected, but

1642
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:17,320
riding with Curtis.
And we're also coming off a by

1643
01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:21,880
week as well, so should be
interesting. 1 and Tally, I was

1644
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,920
just telling Brian while you
were getting back on for some

1645
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:28,240
reason, I have really no root
and interest in this game, but

1646
01:36:28,240 --> 01:36:31,120
that game is always captivated
me for years.

1647
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,880
I don't know why, but it's just
always captivated me for years

1648
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:43,240
so but there it is there's our
big screeners enjoy the games

1649
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:49,120
that responsibly and if you ride
with one of us all the way down,

1650
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,360
well y'all, y'all know you're
making a mistake by doing that.

1651
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:56,320
So don't.
Anything coming out in the last

1652
01:36:56,320 --> 01:37:01,240
hour and 37 minutes, boys?
I wouldn't say anything's coming

1653
01:37:01,240 --> 01:37:09,840
out, but I will throw some
numbers at you right quick. 1919

1654
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,920
is the number that Pride needs
to get to.

1655
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,800
That means he wins four games,
four more games.

1656
01:37:17,480 --> 01:37:21,640
He will be 19 and 17 in his
coaching career at Virginia

1657
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,360
Tech.
Right now he is 15 to 17.

1658
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:30,760
Worst case scenario, he needs to
be at 518 and 18.

1659
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,280
That means he goes three and one
in the last four games.

1660
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:40,880
But you know what, Charlie,
let's go.

1661
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:45,440
And, and I'm glad you said that
because that was from three and

1662
01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:48,760
eight.
That was from 3:00 and 8:00.

1663
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:53,080
Yeah, first season 3 and eight.
Second season 7 and six.

1664
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:57,440
The season where you go, yeah, 5
right now.

1665
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:02,880
Yeah, 5 right now, yeah. 5 right
now and we didn't.

1666
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,280
See five last year.
You know we saw five last year.

1667
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:08,720
Brian, me and you were
travelling to Randolph Macon.

1668
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:12,440
November 11th is when we got to
five last year y'all?

1669
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:16,960
What are you saying Brian?
Sorry, I was.

1670
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,120
Just going to say, I mean that I
think, I think getting to 8 this

1671
01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:21,760
year is important.
Yeah.

1672
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:27,560
I think that's, I think that's
really important from a path

1673
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,440
forward standpoint.
We're talking about the the

1674
01:38:29,440 --> 01:38:31,280
youth that's coming in.
I feel like prize has done a

1675
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,040
good job of bringing in the the
right type of players for what

1676
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:36,640
we're trying to do both
offensively and defensively.

1677
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:39,160
I think we're starting to see
some of that pay off in terms of

1678
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:44,320
the talent, the the the youth
talent, the guys that are, you

1679
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,800
know, true freshman, true
sophomore, they're going out

1680
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:51,160
there and they're starting to
make names for themselves on

1681
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:56,560
this team that is, you know,
fairly veteran laden.

1682
01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:00,000
You know, they're starting to
make their presence felt.

1683
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:03,600
But if you want to keep that
train moving, you got to put up

1684
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,960
wins.
And eight says we're on the

1685
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:11,160
right track to be that top two
top three every year team in the

1686
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:12,920
ACC.
And that's where we need to get

1687
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:14,920
back to it.
That's the first step is

1688
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:19,160
consistently being in the
conversation with the Clemson's

1689
01:39:19,160 --> 01:39:24,240
and Miami's want to be mentioned
in that same discussion year in,

1690
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,040
year out.
You got to go out there and win

1691
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,200
8 games this year.
All right, so I like this tally

1692
01:39:29,200 --> 01:39:34,120
said 19, You said eight.
I'm staying 4 because there's

1693
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:38,480
four games left in the season
there for all those young bucks

1694
01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:40,680
have the opportunity to start
playing.

1695
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:42,480
Chris Lester said it on this
program.

1696
01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:45,160
He was, he said the game he was
looking forward to with Syracuse

1697
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,160
because he knew Keelan.
I'm going to start calling him

1698
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,840
Keelan because I don't want Mama
come beat me up.

1699
01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:54,200
But those guys now have the
opportunity.

1700
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:58,120
There's one other guy that might
have the opportunity as well and

1701
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,840
Tally, you mentioned that you
would like to see him back and

1702
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:03,760
that's Tucker Holloway.
There's an opportunity.

1703
01:40:03,760 --> 01:40:06,080
Tucker Holloway plays this last
month of the season because he

1704
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,760
would keep his red shirt and two
more years of eligibility left,

1705
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:10,960
which would be shoes.
Shout out B Fish.

1706
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,800
Yes, we know B Fish because she
have disability back there in

1707
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:17,600
the three and eight season.
But.

1708
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:22,240
We need a we we remember that.
I will never forget that man,

1709
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,000
but that those.
I hope somebody cares about a

1710
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,240
situation like B Fish cared
about Tucker Holloway's red

1711
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:31,000
shirt.
Golly, he was mad.

1712
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:33,960
He.
Was so mad and we were like we

1713
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:36,240
need to win a game and.
Right.

1714
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,680
We got to show something.
I don't want to throw too much

1715
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,000
out, you know, I know it's week
by week, but we just talking

1716
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:45,200
numbers here, but 19, you get to
19, you know how many wins that

1717
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:48,920
gives you for the season, gives
you nine wins for the season.

1718
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,440
You got opportunity to win 10
games.

1719
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:54,520
Hey.
Just saying man.

1720
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:56,080
But you.
But you know what?

1721
01:40:56,120 --> 01:41:00,640
You at least need to make but.
Hey, but you know what that nine

1722
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,520
does too if things break like
you want it to break.

1723
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:05,920
Look at him.
Look.

1724
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:07,240
At him.
Look at him coming in late.

1725
01:41:07,480 --> 01:41:10,520
And ready.
But Batali and I don't want to

1726
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:13,320
speak it.
Put 9 and things break right?

1727
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,560
Y'all know where we can where
you can drive to?

1728
01:41:18,680 --> 01:41:22,440
Actually, Yeah, yeah, put that
up.

1729
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:23,240
There.
That's right.

1730
01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:24,640
That's right.
There you go.

1731
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:27,160
There you go.
Houston coming in high Coming in

1732
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:27,680
high.
I love it.

1733
01:41:28,280 --> 01:41:30,240
Love it.
We missed you tonight, Andretti,

1734
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:34,320
and I'm just going to throw all
these up here just in case A.

1735
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,880
Reminder throw, throw the
fucking 1999 in there.

1736
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:41,800
Make sure you're following on
YouTube, subscribed on YouTube,

1737
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:48,000
and that's going to be your
chance to enter the drawing for

1738
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:53,320
the lovely goal post pyramid
that we got courtesy of press *.

1739
01:41:53,440 --> 01:41:56,400
So get it in there.
Absolutely.

1740
01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:01,200
And again, we haven't decided if
we're doing it early.

1741
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:02,920
Well, there you go.
Put him up there.

1742
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:05,360
He he's make sure you subscribe
to Andretti.

1743
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:11,120
That's what she said.
Make sure you subscribe to

1744
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:13,600
Andretti to the account, man.
I don't want to pull your name

1745
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:15,440
out.
You ain't subscribed because

1746
01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:18,120
Tally going to call you and be
like you were going to win it,

1747
01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:21,320
but you didn't subscribe to our
YouTube channel so we can't give

1748
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:25,600
it to you for for all those who.
Are two step process fellas.

1749
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:30,920
Effectively put it on there.
Brian, do you have a cut off

1750
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,160
date that you need it on there
by?

1751
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,440
Because I don't know if you're
able to pull, how quick he's

1752
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:36,720
going to be able to pull
everything.

1753
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,680
So I mean, put it on, it's got
to be either week 8-9 or ten

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01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,760
episodes.
By.

1755
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:47,200
Let's let's do end of night
Saturday.

1756
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,960
We're not gonna accept entries
Sunday, Monday or Tuesday on any

1757
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:56,160
of them, so get it in there by
Saturday night.

1758
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:57,840
Late night.
There you go.

1759
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,320
Love to see it, Andre.
I, I, I, you know what?

1760
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,200
I look at the numbers of these
episodes.

1761
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:07,160
Ain't many people watching the,
the, the episode past Saturday

1762
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:09,240
night.
Like if I didn't watch it.

1763
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,360
Now I'm gonna wait for the next
go round and see what we got.

1764
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,120
So not this time.
Not this time.

1765
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,840
All the way through Saturday
night, if you, if you get in

1766
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:20,800
there late, I'm sorry about, I
will try to get you in there,

1767
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:23,480
but I would prefer the cut off
to be Saturday night.

1768
01:43:23,480 --> 01:43:26,120
Just letting y'all know that.
So we're going to get as many of

1769
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:29,880
y'all in there as we can and
we're going spin her around and

1770
01:43:29,880 --> 01:43:32,960
see what she do and one of y'all
will have that lovely, lovely

1771
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:34,760
pyramid and we'll get that
shipped out to you all.

1772
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,560
Right.
Well, that is going to wrap up

1773
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:41,040
this episode of the Boundary
Corner podcast brought to you by

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1776
01:43:46,440 --> 01:43:48,800
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secured the Big East that
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1792
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Not as many, although Facebook

1793
01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:40,840
is funny sometimes.
A lot of different reasons.

1794
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:42,200
We've got the Instagram.
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The big one, subscribe to us on
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You all know what they are.
As always, the man who played

1798
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:54,600
Tom Petty's Don't back down
tonight.

1799
01:44:54,760 --> 01:44:56,160
Play this in every out every
week.

1800
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Check him out at
jasonlongmusic.com.

1801
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:00,480
You can.
Hey, Curtis, let me cut you off

1802
01:45:00,480 --> 01:45:05,080
real quick before we before we
hit the sign off here, just want

1803
01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:08,920
to kind of throw it back again.
It's scrolling down here at the

1804
01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:11,920
bottom, but United Way of
Rutherford County in North

1805
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:16,240
Carolina, it's, you know, we're,
we're, we're a few weeks

1806
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:18,040
removed.
You know, you're not seeing it

1807
01:45:18,040 --> 01:45:21,840
in the, the news headlines every
week, but those folks still need

1808
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:24,400
a lot of help down there.
Any, any money that you can

1809
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,720
contribute is going to be a big
help going forward.

1810
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So please continue to support
those victims down there in

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01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,240
Western North Carolina.
Again, the, the, the URLs down

1812
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there, United Way of
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1813
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So hit that up.
Donate what you can.

1814
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,080
Appreciate it.
And there you go, and as long as

1815
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that music man goes, check him
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you can see where he's playing.
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of his web pages, his YouTube,
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1818
01:45:55,320 --> 01:45:57,480
stuff.
We thank y'all for listening.

1819
01:45:57,480 --> 01:45:59,440
Yes, this was Thor's hammer
tonight.

1820
01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:02,680
And as always, let's go.

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