Following the Miami Screwjob the Hokies now sit at 2-3. We Tell the Truth about a game that didn't need but ultimately did come down to a Hail Mary as time expired. We then get to Know the Enemy in a trip out west for the first matchup against Stanford as an ACC foe.
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Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary
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Corner podcast along with my
partners, Brian Siegel and
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Jonathan Tally and Shelton Moss.
I am Curtis Wilson.
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We are a part of the College
Huddle network.
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And this episode is brought to
you by Doctor Jeremy Counts down
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at the Counts Family Pharmacy,
your friendly neighborhood
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pharmacy, Three O 1 S Main St.
Blacksburg, VA.
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And Brian will let you say a
little something here.
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Yeah, I'm going to kick it off
tonight.
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Just sending thoughts out there
to our our friends in western
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North Carolina that are dealing
with the disaster of Hurricane
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Alene.
Some of you may know, some of
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you may not.
That area of the state has a
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special meaning for me.
It's a place where me and my
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family go just about every
summer.
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Lake Lower Chimney Rock area
there in Rutherford County,
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about 30 minutes, 30 miles kind
of east of of Asheville there.
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Just wanted to to send my
thoughts out there.
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And for the folks out there
listing, we've got some links
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down below on the crawl there. 1
is for the United Way, United
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Way of Rutherford County and the
other is for feeding the
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Carolinas.
Please, if you have any ability
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to do so, think of of donating
and and helping those folks out
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right now.
You know there there's some of
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these towns very much A1 road in
one Rd. out.
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It's hard to get to them, the
elevation and everything.
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So please try to get as many
resources to them as you can and
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definitely any anything you can
can do at this point would be a
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big help.
Yep, very well said, Brian.
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The links are also pinned to our
Twitter account as well for the
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United Way of Rutherford County.
Obviously we we understand
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between western Carolina,
eastern Tennessee and the
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western part of the state of
Virginia, along with South
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Carolina, Georgia and Florida,
all pretty hard because of this
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storm.
It's closest to us.
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If y'all don't know him, a good
friend of ours, JJ Singleton.
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Down in the Asheville area.
Yeah, down there in Canton.
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Down in Canton, J JS OK, we've
heard from him over the last few
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days.
I know some folks that me and
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Brian grew up with live out
there.
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Now I work with the guy who who
who who is a hybrid guy.
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He lives out there.
So it's it's affected a lot of
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people, obviously.
And obviously I think we all
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know it's the part of the area
that's a lot of Hokie fans too.
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So it's it's not only just, you
know, it's Hokie fans, but just
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in general, the stuff that's
going on, you know, you know,
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however you or whatever you may
do, if you can donate, great.
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If you can at least keep the
good vibes, the prayers,
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however, you may do so for them.
Yeah.
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And it's, it's just incredible
seeing, you know, something that
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you, you know, you spend a lot
of time down there.
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You, you, you've been there so
many times and seeing what that
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place looks like now and the
destruction that that happened.
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And, you know, the folks that
are that are still reeling down
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there, it's, it's just, it's,
it's been sad, man.
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And it's, you know, looking,
looking at the destruction.
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It's been just kind of kind of
surreal.
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I mean, I tell anybody that
asked me, yeah, I've, I've had a
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beer.
I've, I've went up and ordered a
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beer at a lot of places in this,
in this world, right.
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Best place I've ever ordered a
beer and sat down and drank it.
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Chimney Rock Brewing, it's it's
right there on the river.
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You got a perfect view of the of
the river up there to the, the,
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the State Park.
It's gorgeous and it and that
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place does not exist anymore and
it's just it's it's really,
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really sad and again, praying
for all the folks down there and
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and and hoping that you know,
they get some relief here for
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sure I'll.
Do a good thing.
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I'm on you.
I've got a daughter that is not
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being the best right now, so if
my camera goes off everyone out
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there in Twitter land and
watching us streaming, it's
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because she's done something and
I've had a lead.
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So let's hope that doesn't
happen, but.
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Hey guys, look who was first in
line here.
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Yeah, he was waiting.
He was waiting.
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New King was waiting.
New King needed a lot of help to
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beat A2 and two team last week.
I mean, as new, always new.
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King has been faithful on the
show.
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We appreciate you.
But I will say, y'all got a
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little help, y'all got the win,
we'll give it to you.
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We can't change it.
But you got a little help.
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You got a little help.
So, well, let's just tell the
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truth.
This tell the truth Tuesday.
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Y'all know the way we normally
do it.
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I mixed it up this week like we
did last week.
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But yes or no, yes or no?
First, did the ACC make a
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business decision when they
overturned Kwan's touchdown
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Friday night?
Yes or no, Brian?
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Of course they did.
Oh, go ahead.
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Sheldon, are you good?
No, no, no.
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Yes or no?
Just yes or no to start with.
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Just yes or no?
I'd say no.
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Oh.
OK, we got a dissenter here, so
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we are going to start with Tally
because I feel like Tally's
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ready to unload and then I'm
gonna go to Sheldon and let
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Brian and he clean it up.
Go ahead, Tally.
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My thing is you can't as much
football as you watch.
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If it's a catch, if you call it
a catch, what is the, how do you
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overturn it?
You know what I'm saying?
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There is no indisputable
evidence that you overturn that
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call.
I mean, we've seen it.
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I've seen it time and time.
I ain't going to speak for
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nobody else that if something is
called on the field, if that's
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the call on the field, you have
to have the indisputable
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evidence.
And I, I don't feel like they
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had indisputable evidence.
I feel like Miami is the hot
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team, Miami's five and O Cam
Ward, Cam Ward, no matter what
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he done wrong, he's still, he's
a Heisman finalist.
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You know, that's all we heard
the whole game and we heard
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about their team, which is which
is OK.
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I don't.
I mean, a lot of the stuff that
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they've done, they they've
earned that.
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So I'm not taking anything away
from Miami.
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Very talented team.
Cam Ward's a very talented
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player.
So again, I feel like now, you
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know, look at look at game day
that they're in, they're in Cal
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to watch Miami and Cal.
So yeah, that made a business
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decision.
It's just my opinion.
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Sheldon, you say no, which I
think you were going to be in
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the minority here tonight, not
only with US 4, but probably
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everybody out on the comment
section.
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Why do you say no?
Stephanie King.
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Well.
It was with the.
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With the context that we saw Al
Riveron in the, the replay
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control room when they were when
they were looking over that
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replay.
Revron is a Miami native.
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I am assume he's partial to
Miami.
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I'm not saying it's conspiracy,
but I think, I think he probably
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leaned one particular way and
I'm sure he probably convinced
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some people in that room to, to
lean that way as well.
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So I don't think it was like a,
hey, we need Miami for the
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playoffs type of thing.
But I, I do think it's probably,
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you know, if you, if you, if you
have a bias, your, your eyes are
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gonna make you look towards that
bias.
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So I think they just, they
probably just looked at it that
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way of like, hey, you know,
we're, we're Miami here and we
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got a, we got a, you know, we're
going to see it through the lens
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of the, the, the, the canes.
So that's kind of the way I look
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at it.
I mean, this is the same crew
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that was on the Duke 15 lateral
15 lateral touchdown, 4 penalty
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that weren't thrown situation.
You know, I mean, when I look at
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it and I'll explain my mindset
here of what I see and folks can
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be a disagree with that if they
want to.
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But what I saw Felton go up,
Felton come down, Felton fall.
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At that point, his momentum
stopped.
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Then you see a Miami player
punch the ball.
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It doesn't matter what happened
after that after he was down.
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It shouldn't.
None of that should have
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mattered.
You can't make an additional
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move against the player once
once they're already on the
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ground that that.
That's how I saw it.
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That's how I felt about it.
I think it was Bang Bang.
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So I can see where others would
have a different opinion of
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that.
But given that information, you
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stick with the call in the
field.
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Yeah, and not and not and not
only that.
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I mean, we keep talking about
the catch.
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I'm sure we may talk about it a
little later, but it was a lot
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of stuff that went on just in
the last drive that I was like,
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hold on for a minute.
Like horse collar, like people
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and and and, you know, the
coaches have some stuff they
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have to work on.
I'm not taking again, I'm not
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employed by the school.
We talked about that too.
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Yeah, Brett probably knows the
stuff that he needs to work on,
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but there's a horse collar.
No, no call.
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Another one that threw me for a
loop was when Quan is going
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forward and again, I'm not on
the field, Maybe the whistle
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blows, but it looks like he
never goes down and goes out of
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bounds, gets through out of
bounds and they run the clock.
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You know, they continue running
the clock and everybody says,
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well, they should have done
this.
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I'm like how do you, how do you
continue running the clock if he
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goes out of bounds?
But it could have been a could
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have been a whistle that of
course I'm not there and didn't
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see.
But it was a lot of stuff that
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went on.
I thought it was a pass
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interference when he threw the
ball in the end zone to Aidan
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Green.
But it was a pass.
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It is what he had his arm and he
shoved him out of bounds before
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he had a chance to go after the
ball.
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There were 4 plays on that last
drive, not counting that.
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So Quan was first.
If Quan had been going backward,
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yes, you have to run the clock,
right?
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You have to run the clock.
Absolutely.
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He stopped his forward.
He went out sideways to my
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knowledge, and as long as I
watch football that is out of
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bounds, that is this, not this.
He tries to make a move and gets
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pulled back.
We're going to talk about that
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later.
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That should have been out of
bounds.
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So that's probably 15 seconds
right there.
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The other was the horse collar.
It was, it was clear you saw him
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do this or he didn't make the
tackle.
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It doesn't matter if they make
the tackle.
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You pull the horse collar.
Whether the tackle is made or
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not.
That is a 15 yard penalty That
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would have stopped the clock.
That would have got us I think
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to the 40 of them because it was
on the side of midfield.
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The other part about that prize
out there screaming, that's a
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horse collar.
You can, if you look he's doing
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this, he's running back to the
sideline and he has to go to the
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other ref and say I call the
time out eight or nine seconds
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additional off the clock right
there.
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So we've already, we've already
got 2324 seconds additional that
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they took away from us.
Aiden Green 100% Alice pass
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interference.
And I don't care if it's a 1
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yard line spot or if it's
fifteen additional yards.
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You start doing the math.
The last place should have
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probably been at about the 8
yard line, not to 40 or to 31,
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whatever it was.
I'll have to go back and look.
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It shouldn't have been a deep
pass.
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It would have been something
even harder to defend for them.
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And that the ACC did make a
business decision.
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They did.
There's there's no question
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because if it was clearing in
indisputable evidence, it
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wouldn't have taken 5 minutes.
It would not have taken 5
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minutes to say that.
They kept saying like, oh, this
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is going to go and it's like you
want to fix the the replay
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rules, 45 seconds find something
wrong with it.
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What if we can't find nothing
wrong with?
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It.
It stands.
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It stands because if it's that
indisputable, it's not.
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He's this man trying to say we
wrong.
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I got two guys who played
collegiate football here, King.
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All right, You ain't even going
to.
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Yeah, it don't matter about
who's wrong or right.
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Like you could look at football
and understand.
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I don't care if he acted like he
won $1,000,000.
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Like that's not that doesn't
constitute a call.
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When he went up to get the ball,
either he has it or he doesn't.
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You know, if he if he comes down
with it, he does.
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If he doesn't, the the, you
know, the refs make the call.
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They made a call that said it
was a touchdown.
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So the only people in the
country that I've heard this is
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what I've heard from Miami fans.
New King, maybe you can help me.
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You sound like them anyway.
My everybody hates Miami.
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The refs hate Miami.
And the only reason that Miami's
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winning is just because they're
so good.
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And it wasn't like they they
helped us keep the game close.
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That's a lie like that is that's
not what happened in that game.
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Like the refs, The, the, the,
every year Miami gets, they get
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the benefit of the doubt that
they're back.
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I don't think that no media or
no refs hate Miami.
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So I'm tired of Miami fans
trying to say that.
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Because if Miami have any kind
of production coming back or any
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kind of production where they
look like they're good, they're
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getting ranked.
They're getting ranked early in
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the season.
So that's nothing wrong with
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that.
You have a program that when
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it's good, it's good for
football.
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So Miami fans have in their
heads that everybody's against
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them.
Everybody hates to you, man.
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That's that's a crock of shit.
So that's just my opinion.
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You know, when we talk about the
way the the officiating was
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going, it wasn't just on that
last drive, all that.
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That was a big part of it.
Let's talk about the the PJ
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touchdown, the holding call.
That was just a good pancake.
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Yeah, New King said.
They helped y'all out a lot.
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Yeah, he said.
They helped y'all out a lot.
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They took away a touchdown on
the BSP.
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Yeah, we've seen it too.
That was a hold.
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They had them on the outside of
the shoulder pass.
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Do you think that was a hold?
That was not.
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But The thing is, it's like it
happened.
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It's not like they gave us plays
and then they just helped us get
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to where we were.
The same thing.
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We had the same if it was a hold
or it wasn't a hold and they
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called a touch, took a touchdown
off the board.
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They did the same thing to us.
So it came down to, again, with
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the question that you asked,
they made a business decision,
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Sheldon said the the Miami dude
is in there with his orange
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shirt on making the call when
there's only two or three people
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in there that keep going to this
damn a war room or whatever they
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call it.
And, and why, how how do you
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even have a tie to that game to
be able to make those calls?
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I don't understand.
So well, he is the official head
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of officiating for the ACC.
That's how you need to get the
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fuck on.
Yeah, he need to get on in a
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game like that.
I mean, you know, this is a
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recusal situation, right?
Like if, if you're a judge with,
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with some sort of ties to A to,
to a situation, you got to
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recuse yourself.
I feel like that should be
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something that we will not talk
about there as well.
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But I mean, you know, I know
we're going to talk about it,
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but it didn't need to
necessarily come down to a Hail
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Mary.
And some of that was
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self-inflicted and some of that
was poor officiating.
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And I think both both of those
things kind of led to where we
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ended up at the end of that
game.
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Absolutely.
All right, So we got to do some
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on just that part of it.
We got to close the book, OK,
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because every statements been
made, 98% of the country agrees
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with us.
It should have been held.
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Miami should have a loss.
We should have a win.
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Can't do anything about it,
can't go back, but it is what it
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is.
But what I want to ask y'all
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next and then yes or no, and
then I'll let y'all explain
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Friday night.
Was that the team you expected
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from the jump this year,
Shelton, Yes or no?
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Yeah, I I thought they put
their, their, their hearts out
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Tally.
Yeah, definitely, Brian.
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Yeah, that was the team I
expected from Jump Street.
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It looked like the team I
expect, like win or lose in that
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game from from the start to
finish.
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It looked like the team I
expected to for us to have most
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of the year.
You're on mute again, Curtis.
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That's going to be a recurring
theme tonight is I'm going to
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have to do that.
All right, So Brian, you kind of
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went into it over there.
What did you feel different on
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Friday night?
I'm going to go back around
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Sheldon, get you, get your data
points ready.
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I know you've got stuff up, but
what did you just see different?
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What was the feel?
Why did this team look like the
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team we expected them to be?
Complimentary football, I mean,
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I think, I think it's that
simple.
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Complimentary football.
When the defense made a play, we
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went out there and made a play
on offense.
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Most of the time when the
offense made a play, the defense
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would turn it around and, and,
and do something pretty well and
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get the ball back to the
offense.
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I thought it was a very
consistent performance really on
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both sides of the ball, with
only a couple caveats to that, I
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think.
Yeah, for the most part, special
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teams was OK outside of two
number seventeens on the field
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and a very questionable coaching
call.
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Hey, if you speeding, if you
speeding and the police don't
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catch you, what you speeding?
It ain't illegal.
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That's what I'm saying.
Happened all the time.
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They didn't catch it.
Go ahead.
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I'm sorry but.
Yeah, I, I think performance
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wise, I think the, the, the
special teams was improved this
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week.
I think there were still a
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couple decisions from the staff
that could fall under question
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on that side of the things,
right?
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What about you, Tally?
What did they do different?
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I know you had a game, you came
in late, but I know you watch
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them.
Yeah, man, I had a yeah.
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They had my son dressed out with
varsity this past weekend or
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this week.
So Friday we were out in the
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rain in the game.
They at least won.
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He got in his first varsity
snaps, he was scared.
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He didn't have to do nothing
behind the ball off, but you got
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like the third team and then
they fumble a snap and other
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team picked it up and start
running back and he was trying
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to make a tackle but also not
get ran over.
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So yeah, welcome to big boy
football for him.
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But I watched it man, probably
about I mean, I watched some
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highlights kind of that night
and watched some videos people
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were posting.
But then I watched the entire
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game at like 2O clock in the
morning, Saturday, Saturday,
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Sunday morning, when they
finally got a whole game
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uploaded, I went back and I went
back and watched the entire
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thing, which was I shouldn't
have.
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I sacrificed some much needed
sleep.
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But Karen looked more like
Karen, like he accepted what the
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stage was and to see him step up
in the pocket and make that
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throw, you know what he throws
off one leg and, and, and puts
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the ball, you know, on the rope.
Like it was good to see him do
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that.
But also, man, it was just not
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to get too technical.
Like when when they when we got
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punched, they punched back
because a lot of games early,
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even games we won are seeing
somebody punching.
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It was just kind of like we kind
of walked to the sideline or we
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kind of, you know, did some
different things.
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And I'm like, come on, man.
Like I like to see a team.
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Like getting getting that bad,
somebody's talking, talking
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back.
It's OK, you know what I'm
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saying?
Like you either going to win or
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you going to lose.
I don't like that.
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We're going to be classy and no,
forget that.
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Like if people out there
talking, you got to talk back.
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So I seen us doing that, you
know, and again, Miami has a
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good team and Miami wasn't doing
anything like overly bad, you
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know, but when you're playing
football, that's a game where
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you get to hit each other every
play.
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So they was hitting and we hit
back.
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So I was good.
I was glad to see that because
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in some of the other games I
didn't see that.
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You know, I've seen people
leaning on us for quarters
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before we decided to punch back
this this game.
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I feel like from the start it
was like, Nah, we, we are trying
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to win, you know, we hit a we
hit a play football.
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So that was good to see.
Sheldon, what about you, man?
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What popped out?
And I know you watched the game
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Friday night.
I'm sure you reluctantly looked
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at some analytics.
What?
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What was what was different to
you Friday night?
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Well, I think there was a little
bit more variety in the run
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game.
You know, they averaged about 7
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yards per rush as a team, which
was great, especially against
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that D line.
You know, we saw more of those
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those toss plays to to Bayshaw
Tooten where, you know, Jones
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kind of pitch outside or or fake
the pitch and then go inside
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between the guards.
You know, I feel like that was
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kind of our bread and butter
last year for some reason.
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We didn't really see it a ton
the first four games.
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I don't know if Bowen was trying
to save a little bit more for a
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conference play, but it was good
to see that play kind of get
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back on the mix.
You know, rolling drones out a
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little bit more, getting them to
run as a quarterback, which
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obviously is the best strength.
Tune broke 9 tackles.
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He's up to 5th in the country
and most missed tackles forced
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with 33.
So he's, you know, keep keeps
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chugging along there.
And then I also thought I
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thought the perimeter blocking
was improved.
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You know, obviously we this
offense that wants to get the
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ball out quickly, you know,
short, quick throws to the sides
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in the flats and, you know, let
your playmakers make plays in
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space.
In order to do that, you got to
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have a good perimeter blocking.
I thought, you know, Quan fell
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and did a good job there.
He had a couple key blocks that
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spurred a big catch by Jay Lane.
And then we saw some
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trickeration on that reverse to
Lane that went for, you know, 20
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some yards for a touchdown.
So I just thought there was a
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bit more variety, you know, Bob
Shipp coming in for for late
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gamut left guard, you know, he's
been an improvement there.
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And then, you know, in terms of
the the defensive special teams,
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obviously, you know, those two
units did a really good job
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helping the offense.
Average starting field position
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for Tech in this game was a 49
yard line.
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You know, you might, you might
play this game 10 times over and
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not say that once because they
got 3 turnovers and all of them
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were in plus territory for Vt.
So, you know, it's kind of a
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kind of the traditional, you
know, 3 complimentary approach
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to football offense, even
special teams kind of helping
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out each other.
I thought they did.
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They did a really good job
there.
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And it's probably one of the
more complete performances
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concerning the quality of the
opponent.
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Yeah, quality opponent and
everything and it was kind of,
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y'all all kind of hit it right.
It was complimentary ball and
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then they stood up and just
started punching where there had
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been times this year, especially
in the first half, we got beat
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down.
Right, we look shell shocked.
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When we did something, something
funky would happen and we would
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just look, Oh no, this isn't
good.
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And I know we came right out the
gate forced to fumble, scored
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the touchdown, but they
answered.
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We didn't quibble up, We didn't
quibble up after that.
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And hopefully we are over that
block because that was the
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biggest thing I saw Friday
night.
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And I think it's going to go
allude to what Tally said.
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They came over a roadblock.
They finally said this is how we
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can play.
We can punch back, we can
445
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,960
attack, we can keep going.
And then to both of y'all's
446
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,720
points, we did look different.
We look different on offense.
447
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,600
Especially when I look over here
and I see how many guys got
448
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,320
multiple receptions.
Gosnell, Jay Lane, other
449
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,640
Gosnell, Aiden Green.
They flipped the ball out to
450
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,240
Tooting to keep people honest in
the flat.
451
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,960
A few.
He didn't get any yard, but you
452
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,920
know what that does to Sheldon's
point, some of those little
453
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,200
short quick passes, if you send
Tune to one side of safeties
454
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,120
going to linebackers going, thus
you go opposite field, it's
455
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:07,600
going to open up.
So in reality, why was this the
456
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,720
team we expected?
Because we knew we had these
457
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,520
players.
We knew we could get into that
458
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,560
mentality and go play with
anybody in the country.
459
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,200
So that's where we all stand on
that now.
460
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,000
Anybody, Sheldon, and we'll
start with Sheldon on this one.
461
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,680
Hey, let me let me put it.
I want to.
462
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,200
You'll put a ball on it.
Yeah.
463
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,120
I want you to put some up.
What now?
464
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,800
I want you to put what?
New King said all this said,
465
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,000
well, they did everything bad,
Did they?
466
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,120
Yeah.
Yeah.
467
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:33,880
Put that.
Put that up.
468
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,680
No, I just want.
I just want you to put that up.
469
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,640
I want to say something to that.
OK.
470
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,800
So they said we did everything
bad.
471
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,640
That was the worst game we
played all season.
472
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,720
Definitely a wake up call.
How is it the worst game you
473
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,760
play all season just because you
had a team that punched back?
474
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,080
Let's see here.
OK.
475
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,520
Miami's.
Miami's schedule before they
476
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,040
played us, Florida garbage.
Horrible.
477
00:24:54,200 --> 00:25:00,640
We don't see any pitiful Florida
A&M, Ball State, South Florida
478
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,920
like, of course it's the worst
game you play because you had a
479
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,680
team that had a pulse.
You know what I'm saying?
480
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,920
I ain't saying like we are so
great, but like Miami, y'all
481
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,200
don't have a little bit of a
road ahead of you, You know what
482
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,960
I'm saying?
Like you don't get in the ACC
483
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,200
play and you, you are the number
seven or eight team in the
484
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,440
country.
You're going to have people just
485
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,760
going to have a target on you.
They're going to try to punch
486
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,000
back.
Like don't get in here and act
487
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,120
like y'all are the greatest team
in the country.
488
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:29,200
Like y'all ain't on Bama's level
and, and even Georgia's level
489
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,520
yet, you know what I'm saying?
Y'all got a ways to go.
490
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,400
But you had players that made
plays, you know, your
491
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,600
quarterback threw for almost 400
yards.
492
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,000
You had a tight end hustling
from one end of the field to the
493
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,200
other to make a tackle to stop a
touchdown.
494
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,520
Like come on man, don't come in.
If we going to do anything, we
495
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,920
just at least going to tell the
truth.
496
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,000
We're going to tell the truth on
a Wednesday, don't we?
497
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,800
Don't fill y'all's heads with we
did everything wrong and we
498
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,000
still overcame.
No, you got help by the refs and
499
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,200
you won the game.
Now you got to go beat Kyle.
500
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,960
Let's see what y'all going to do
when you go out there.
501
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,040
I just want to go ahead.
New king, you steal.
502
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,920
My God.
Oh, we won't go to the next
503
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,920
time.
Curtis, what you got?
504
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,760
Well, I was saying I was
pitching the Sheldon here up to
505
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,000
this point, who's the player
you've been down on or saying,
506
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,000
why isn't this guy playing?
Like I know he can play, but
507
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,920
Friday night it it it reversed
the script for you.
508
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,720
I might need a second to chew on
that.
509
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,480
All right, go definitely all.
Right.
510
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,480
Pitch it over to Brian then.
Yeah, let's go, Brian.
511
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,400
I mean, low hanging fruit is
Chiron, but I'm going to
512
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:36,600
actually say Daquan Felton.
I saw some life from him.
513
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,200
The whole game he was engaged in
blocking.
514
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,320
He looked like a like he was a
little bit more focused than he
515
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,200
had been the last couple weeks.
I was really impressed with with
516
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,480
how he played overall got got
him involved in the game plan a
517
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,960
little bit.
So I like that.
518
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,200
And then obviously, you know, we
know what happened with the with
519
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,320
the Hail Mary at the end there.
So I was excited to see him get
520
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,040
back a little bit in the game
plan.
521
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,800
So I I think he kind of
surprised me a little bit.
522
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,560
About you Tally, you got to
watch that late so you saw all
523
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,080
the data.
You kind of knew what was going
524
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,120
to happen.
Who who who stood out to you.
525
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Did I drop it?
It's not that anybody kind of
526
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,320
surprised me on stepping up.
It was more of the coaches
527
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,440
letting people play.
You know what I'm saying?
528
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,880
Like to see Woodson get in the
game to see, you know, Caleb
529
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,760
Spencer get more burn to see PJ
Prelude get in.
530
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,320
You know what I'm saying?
So I can't say I was expecting
531
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,000
more out of them because they
haven't been put in a position
532
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,720
to play.
So it looks like like we Got
533
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,680
Talent on the sidelines, man.
I'm just waiting for the coaches
534
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,880
to put them in and and let them
do their thing.
535
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,400
Malachi, I like you, man.
You, you got to go third string,
536
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,080
brother.
I mean, you can't be that big
537
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,480
and not get no yards.
We need, we need, you know, 2
538
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,080
yards of carry, 3 yards of carry
something, give me something.
539
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,400
Prelude look like he is a change
of pace guy.
540
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,840
Yeah, I agree with you on the
change of pace.
541
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,960
I think that's that's big
because when you get somebody
542
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,120
that can great tackles the way
Tootin can and can kind of do a
543
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:13,160
little bit of everything, you
get somebody that's one cut and
544
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,280
go like Prelude, that creates
some problems for the defense
545
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,880
because he gets up feels so
quick.
546
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:25,120
All right, Sheldon, back to you.
I'll go Wilfred Pernet.
547
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,680
I think he's been surprisingly
solid, you know, graded out
548
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,520
pretty decently against Miami
and also had four QB pressures,
549
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,160
which was a big stat.
So I think I think Tech did a,
550
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,960
you know, OK job getting to
getting to Ken Ward.
551
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,240
So I'll go open a kind of under
the radar guy, you know, not
552
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,280
something you had a ton of
expectations for, but I, I was
553
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,120
surprisingly impressed with him.
All right, I'm going to go with
554
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,440
one, and it might be a little
obvious because of what he did
555
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,240
down at the goal line.
Moose Phillips.
556
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,760
Moose Phillips the third.
I think it's the maturation with
557
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,680
safeties that he will.
His tackles were cleaner this
558
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,360
week.
His coverages were cleaner.
559
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,080
Did he miss a few fits?
Yeah, but they they weren't as
560
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,600
bad as they were three games
ago.
561
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,880
And remember, he's a sophomore,
my kids a sophomore, and he's
562
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,560
out there in that pic.
He absolutely baited potential
563
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,080
Heisman winner Cam Ward into it
because he showed off like he
564
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,920
was going to play the flat.
And as soon he saw Cam hit that
565
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,920
third back foot, you saw him
undercut that wheel and he was
566
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,760
gone.
And it's the maturation of that
567
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,720
kid.
It's like he's had some games
568
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,000
where it's like you see him with
tackles and it's like, Oh my
569
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,360
God, What we are.
I know why we got to start and I
570
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,440
know he's Got Talent.
I know he likes to lay lumber,
571
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,800
but when you see a game of that
caliber, he's the guys he were
572
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,320
tackling.
If you missed those tackles,
573
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520
they're gone.
He wasn't missing them.
574
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,920
And Shelton, I stole something
from PFS 81 tackle grade for
575
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,840
him.
That means he didn't miss much.
576
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,880
That means he was solid.
So love hearing that.
577
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,840
All righty.
OK.
578
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,960
You know, we usually do the bad
segment, but we got to bring it
579
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,160
up.
And I know, Brian, you said they
580
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,080
played a little bit better.
Can special teams just stop
581
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:13,840
making law errors in every
single way please?
582
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,840
I'll I'll take the what, 58 yard
field goals though?
583
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,000
Yeah, that's John Love, though.
Well.
584
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,360
Hey, hey.
They developed him, so got to
585
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,480
give him credit there.
I mean, I know we hate him.
586
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,120
I know he loves to hate on Stu
Hall, but you got to get credit
587
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,120
where it's due.
Love is love is love is
588
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,600
automatic too, man.
Like he's what is he like?
589
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,240
He's been like like 19 for 20 or
something like that.
590
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,160
Yeah, the one that 89 block 80.
Nine percent, 89% since the
591
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,720
starter last year.
One of the best kickers in the
592
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,160
country statistically, and he
has not missed an extra point.
593
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Yeah, yeah, he's tough.
It's just good to have.
594
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,480
Yeah, it's good to have that in
your pocket to like, we got the
595
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,480
confidence to roll him out there
and be like, hey, man, we need
596
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,440
you to go hit this.
And most of the time, that's
597
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,280
what he's going to do.
You know what I'm saying?
598
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,560
My son was watching the game.
He had cotillion Friday night.
599
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,760
He got back late.
So he he children watched the
600
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,280
game with me.
And when he kicked that 58 yard,
601
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,680
he was like, Dad, that's like a
Justin Tucker kick because it
602
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,800
was like a Justin Tucker.
Yeah, I think it was halfway up
603
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,920
the pole.
But the other piece, why I keep
604
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,880
going back to saying it's the
small things, the end of the
605
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,960
first half pooch in that.
I know the kid back there.
606
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,040
They mentioned it like 19 times.
He's at all world speed.
607
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,160
How low usually puts it through
the end zone.
608
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,080
We're and I don't know if that's
pride or if that's Stew.
609
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,440
It's like put it through the end
zone, give them no shot.
610
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,120
It's just it's little things.
Yeah, Little.
611
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,440
Thing it started with with the
with the time out before the
612
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,400
field goal, yeah.
So if you run some more clock
613
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,720
before the field goal.
Weigh down.
614
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,760
Then you don't have to pooch it.
You don't even think about
615
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,320
pooping it right because it's
down far enough where you're
616
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,840
not, you're not concerned as
long as you boot it deep.
617
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,480
It is what it is.
I think they saw 25 seconds.
618
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200
I think they saw if we can run a
little bit more clock on this
619
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,680
kick off, it might help us get
out out of the half.
620
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,280
I think they overthought it.
And next thing you know, you got
621
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,400
another three on the board.
And as we see that, you know,
622
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,120
those, those threes add up.
And we're going to talk about
623
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,480
another one here in just a
second.
624
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,480
Yeah, we are.
Because I like the one thing
625
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,360
about coach Pryor, whether we
when we've interviewed him or
626
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,600
you see him at the podium, he's
usually self critical.
627
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,680
If he makes errors in the game,
he calls himself out.
628
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,760
And he said it after the game.
He said I've got to be better at
629
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,000
game management and he had more
than a couple on Friday night of
630
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,120
game management issues.
What can he do?
631
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,400
Like what's the solution there?
I mean, we got helmet.
632
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,760
I I love what somebody said.
I can't remember if it was on
633
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,320
Twitter and a chat or something.
We've got helmet communications
634
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,400
and we still got five guys
giving signals like wait a
635
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,640
second, this is 2024.
Somebody said take one of those
636
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,480
guys, just put them next to pry
and be like, what are you
637
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,080
supposed to do?
No timeouts and tell him when to
638
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,760
call timeouts.
But what's this?
639
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:21,320
What do y'all have y'all both
played stop, stop talking about
640
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,680
it.
Stop talking about need to be
641
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,960
better at this.
We need to do this better.
642
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,040
You know how to do it.
You got to do it stop.
643
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,640
I mean to me it don't seem like
it's a it don't seem like it's a
644
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,520
huge thing to to fix.
You know what I'm saying?
645
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,040
Like the mistakes keep being the
same mistakes and at some point
646
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,760
you got to you got to fix the
mistake.
647
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,520
You know what I'm saying?
Like Sheldon, I know you ain't
648
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,280
married yet, but that's three
are married.
649
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,800
Your wife is not going to allow
you to make the same mistake 3
650
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,840
or 4 days in a row.
Oh baby, I forgot to take trash
651
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,480
out.
Oh baby, I forgot to watch them
652
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,280
dish.
Oh baby, I forgot to clean the
653
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,160
car.
Oh baby, I, I, I don't do it,
654
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,280
but you going to be done.
You going to be out of there
655
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,800
sooner or later.
You can't keep making the same
656
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,760
mistake and then it don't matter
if you make it sound good.
657
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,639
Hey baby, no, I forgot to no, I
forgot to take that trash out,
658
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,520
but I bought you some McDonald's
home here you go I got you this
659
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:22,120
I got you this fish filet baby
here you go it don't help the
660
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,719
trash still didn't get taken out
like come on man you got to fix
661
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,120
the mistakes and quit talking
about fixing the mistakes Stu
662
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,199
hey man, you got to quit making
mistakes on special teams If I'm
663
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,520
proud somebody getting thrown
under the bus hey man, you got
664
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,920
to go.
That's what I'm saying.
665
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,520
I mean, if hey, if it's me or
you, it's got to be you.
666
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,159
I got to put somebody on the
chopping block because sooner or
667
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,600
later at the every game they
keep showing it.
668
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,440
Brett Pryor is blank and blank.
He's won this many games.
669
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:58,520
He's lost this many games.
If this number keeps going up
670
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,120
and this number keeps staying
the same, you, you ain't going
671
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,480
to have a job.
You got to do something that's
672
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,200
just it's wins and losses, like
kissing babies is cool and
673
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,960
shaking our hands and, you know,
doing cool videos, it's cool.
674
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,880
But it comes down to wins and
losses.
675
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Like you got to get some of
those wins.
676
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,760
You got to steal some of those
games.
677
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,920
And you cannot continue to talk
about we should have won that,
678
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,240
you know what I'm saying?
You have to be on the other side
679
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,720
of some of those wins and go, we
did win that.
680
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,800
That's a big game.
You know, that Miami game was a
681
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,680
huge game.
Brett Price still doesn't have a
682
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,040
signature win.
He's been here three years.
683
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,960
When does he get it?
That's all I'm saying.
684
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,280
He had the opportunity.
He was right there.
685
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,840
He was right there.
Yeah, I don't, I, I, I hate to
686
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,440
be pessimistic, but I just, I
don't see what the solution is.
687
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,800
Like I, I, I think I tweeted
this on Friday, but like there's
688
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,960
a certain you have to have like
this, this internal clock in
689
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,920
your head when it comes to game
management, kind of like the
690
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,440
quarterback who, you know, can,
it can process things really
691
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,080
quickly.
It's a really hard skill to
692
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,160
teach.
I just, I think prize, you know,
693
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,720
he's been a long time assistant.
I just don't think he has that
694
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:08,120
internal clock when it comes to
game, when it comes to time
695
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,280
management.
And, you know, and I know some
696
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,560
people said, like, Hey, we
should hire an assistant to, you
697
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,760
know, kind of baby him.
Like, I don't know if there's
698
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,400
any other school in the country
that does that like to, to have
699
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,440
like a special assistant for
clock management on the field.
700
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,960
I feel like that would just add
to the, you know, chaos that's
701
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,120
going on.
Because again, you got to think
702
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,560
about from his perspective, you
know, he's thinking about what's
703
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,760
what's our play call?
You know, he's got to think
704
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,280
about like, you know, so many
different aspects of the game.
705
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:34,400
It's hard to balance when you're
actually on the sideline doing
706
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,320
it in real time.
You know, obviously we criticize
707
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,280
them as fans, but you know,
we're kind of looking at like
708
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,400
the clock management
perspective.
709
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,120
You know, we're not thinking
about all the things he's
710
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,240
thinking about.
So I just, I don't know, it's
711
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,760
just it's a skill you either
have, you have it or don't.
712
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,280
And we're 29 games in.
I just don't know if we're going
713
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,680
to get.
It yeah.
714
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,240
And I think the the the problem
comes more in those like crunch
715
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:56,880
time situations, right?
So, you know, when you look at
716
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,360
something, when we talk about,
you know, Felton getting out of
717
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:06,720
bounds, you got to juggle the
fact that you got to get the
718
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,040
play in, you got to get back on
the line of scrimmage.
719
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,760
But you also, you got to jaw at
the ref a little bit and get in
720
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,000
his ear.
And you got to be able to do all
721
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,000
of that at one time without
wasting 8 or 9 seconds, which it
722
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,000
ultimately ended up happening.
You know, that's what's 1 play.
723
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,800
You know, there, there's a
handful of plays that happened
724
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,320
on that last drive that I think
the amount of action going on
725
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,640
contributed to the poor clock
management, not, not just the
726
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:39,120
fact that he wasn't aware of, of
the situation we were in.
727
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600
So it's, it's not, it's not just
an awareness problem.
728
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,440
I, I think it was managing
multiple crises at one time,
729
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,880
right?
So I think, I think that's,
730
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,040
that's the bigger issue.
And I think that's just going to
731
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,480
be something that takes some
time to adjust to, for someone
732
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,520
that hasn't had to have that
role, you know, before coming to
733
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,240
Virginia Tech.
And, and to Sheldon's point, it
734
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,040
it it's, it is just going to
take time.
735
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,080
I don't it's not necessarily
something that you can flip a
736
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,120
switch on, but it that's
frustrating for a fan base,
737
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:16,320
especially when you know
decisions like that matter in
738
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,560
those one score situations and
we have not been very good in
739
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,840
those one score situations under
pride.
740
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,840
So Yep, in in a lot of those one
score situations, it's been
741
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,880
issues of the management of the
clock of knowing, OK, now it's
742
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,760
time to call a timeout like, oh,
no, no, in the first half.
743
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,800
No, don't call a timeout.
They're not using their timeout.
744
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Just wait.
They want to use their timeout.
745
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,160
That's fine to Danny.
Let it run all the way down,
746
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,280
down.
As far as you can.
747
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,760
I'm petitioning for this.
Virginia Tech should hire
748
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,800
Shelton to be the clock manager
on the sidelines.
749
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,680
That's all.
Your job will be.
750
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,800
Shelton the clock know exactly
when the toilet he's available.
751
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,760
He needs a job.
He's an alumni.
752
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,240
He understands clock management.
He will tell you, Coach Pratt,
753
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,320
when to call the time out, when
not to.
754
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,000
He will tell you they're gonna
keep him inbound.
755
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,400
You need to call the time out
right now so.
756
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,240
Yeah, no, I could do it and it's
fine because I played Madden
757
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,840
growing up and I feel like my
generation knows clock
758
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,960
management pretty well.
The older generation, the older
759
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,800
generation, they don't have that
thing inside.
760
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,480
If you play Madden every single
day for like 5 years, you have
761
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,640
it in your brain.
And by the way, just for the
762
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,640
last commenter peacefully asked
about the clock not stopping
763
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,280
when Felton went out of bounds
on last drive.
764
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,680
I know the player talking about
it's because Felton was going
765
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,240
backwards or sideways if you go
backwards or sideways to get out
766
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,520
of bounds.
I always thought sideways meant
767
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,080
the clock stopped backwards.
I always knew was a running
768
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,720
clock.
I never thought sideways cuz.
769
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,000
Yeah, the the refs might give
you some leeway there, but
770
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,560
generally speaking, if you if
you try to angle backwards out
771
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,000
of bounds, the clock's not gonna
stop.
772
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,760
And I think that's what happened
there, so.
773
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,120
Just you would have known that
and told Coach Pratt called out
774
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,760
Here we got 2 here, we've got to
burn 1.
775
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,360
Either go all the time out now
or get a damn play in fast
776
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,320
instead of wasting 10 seconds.
Like run it quick, run it quick.
777
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,760
I think, I think another thing
we need to start working on, and
778
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,440
this is an offensive coordinator
situation is getting multiple
779
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,560
plays into.
The huddle in those two-minute
780
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,240
situations, you need to have a
play ready to go you need to be
781
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:13,920
able to get on the line,
understand down in distance,
782
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,880
understand where you are in the
moment and and have plays that
783
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,400
you can get in there accordingly
without having to scramble.
784
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,720
Yeah, after a call like that
where you're like all right, are
785
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:31,160
we getting the clock favorable
here are we not so. 100 percent,
786
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,160
100%.
Hi Brian.
787
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,800
I'm I'm gonna pitch it back to
you on this because feel like
788
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,200
you might have a very strong
feel one way or the other.
789
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,320
Would you have pulled the
trigger on the fake up 10?
790
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,040
I would have taken the three.
I don't hate the call itself.
791
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,560
I hate the execution by a
certain tackle that shall remain
792
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,080
nameless.
Yeah.
793
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,560
So I mean that that that's kind
of where I land on it.
794
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,680
I think that we I don't I don't
hate the call.
795
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,800
I would have taken the three
though, because I feel like in
796
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,840
games like that where it's where
it's tight, where you have an
797
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,880
offense that can score the ball
on you, when you get a big play
798
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,640
like that, I know you hate not
coming away with six, but 3 is
799
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,200
better than than not coming away
with anything.
800
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,640
And again, you got to execute.
I mean, it's it's, it's a, it's
801
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:27,400
a first down if you execute.
Cal taking the points going for
802
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,000
it yeah, I probably would have I
probably would have took the
803
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,040
points in that situation.
Just me myself.
804
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:40,080
Like I just feel like, you know,
we you need all the points you
805
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,160
can get and if they're there,
take them.
806
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:48,120
But if I'm in that game and I'm
looking how we're playing, I
807
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,480
mean, I'm not going to go with a
little brother Carl.
808
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,760
I'm not going with a fake field
goal.
809
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,320
I'm going to put my offense on
the line and I'm going to say
810
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,040
we're going to go our best play
and we're going to either get
811
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,120
this or we're not.
I'm not trying to get a ball to
812
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Harrison St.
Germain to get me 3 yards.
813
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,240
When I got Tooting that they
cannot stop and I got Kyron that
814
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:11,640
can get us.
Like, I just feel like that
815
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,400
wasn't a call.
If I'm going to do that's a
816
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,360
little brother call, you know
what I'm saying?
817
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,400
Like that's that, that's it.
Like if I'm playing my son in
818
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,200
basketball, which he's more
athletic than I am now, but when
819
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,040
he's small, he's got to do stuff
to steal points.
820
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,000
Like now he's just going to go
shoot or he's going to go to the
821
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,760
goal because he's quicker than
me and make a layup.
822
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,080
Like you don't have to.
You got to get out of that
823
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,200
mindset.
Like when you're playing like
824
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,280
we're playing that day, I'm
saying hi y'all.
825
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,680
What you think we're going to go
for it?
826
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,760
So I'm, I'm not mad at him for
going for it.
827
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,080
I'm mad at the call.
If you're going to go for it,
828
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,360
what about you, Sheldon?
I would have preferred to just
829
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,120
go for it straight up from
scrimmage.
830
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,520
I like the way the offense was
moving the ball and I, I trust,
831
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,040
you know, try to try to have
your skill guys make a play in
832
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,840
space.
Based on what price on the
833
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,680
postgame, it seems like they got
a certain look from Miami that
834
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,760
that gave them the idea to go
for it.
835
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,720
I guess, you know, they had to
like check into it.
836
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,840
So they probably saw something
that they liked.
837
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,320
Obviously it didn't work out.
But again, we talk about
838
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,360
compounding mistakes.
Again, if you make if you if you
839
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,960
manage the end of the first half
correctly, you're +3.
840
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,160
So that means you're leading by
13 in that situation rather than
841
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,640
10.
If you're up 13, hey, can the
842
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120
field go up by 16?
That's two touchdowns, +2 to
843
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,040
point conversions.
Maybe you're thinking that's a
844
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,400
little bit more, you know, a
little bit more manageable there
845
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:32,120
and said you're up by 10.
So there's more, you know,
846
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,680
ambiguity in terms of how you
play it because you want to go
847
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,440
up by 17, you know, go up by
three scores.
848
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,480
So again, stakes compound
mistakes.
849
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:42,120
All right, agreed.
I am.
850
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,400
I like what y'all are saying go,
you know if you can go for it
851
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,760
put you guys on the field, you
know that's fine.
852
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,600
Take the point because at that
point in time, 10 point game,
853
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,880
that was the pick play right?
That was the Caleb Spencer pick
854
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,280
that we got deep.
You have all the momentum, all
855
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,840
that fake does.
If you don't pull it off or if
856
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,680
you don't get it on 4th down,
they take the momentum back.
857
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,080
You go down there and they stop
and you kick the field goal.
858
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,800
They didn't take much momentum
back because now they look up
859
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,600
and say we got to drive the
field.
860
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,560
Not once.
We got to drive the field twice.
861
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,360
We can't screw up either one of
our extra point kicks because if
862
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,400
we do, it's a tie game.
If we make a mistake going down,
863
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,920
they can sit on this ball and
start eating clock, which is our
864
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,360
enemy.
But that's what my thing was.
865
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,360
I'm like it was the momentum
shift because as soon as we
866
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,000
missed it, as soon as somebody
got blocked in the Harrison St.
867
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,920
Germain, not going to mention
the name, but the number, y'all
868
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,600
know what it is?
They had all the momentum.
869
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,560
They did.
They had all the momentum.
870
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,480
It's like, oh, they were trying
to put us away.
871
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,160
Are we going to go?
We're going to go get them.
872
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,080
It's like the horror movie.
I'm going to try to kill him the
873
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,920
best I can instead of getting
out of there.
874
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,200
All right, so I'm going to end
it with this because or almost
875
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,280
ended with this.
Do y'all think Miami is a legit
876
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,320
team?
Could they be to the second
877
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,040
round of the playoffs?
Yes.
878
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,440
I think so.
I think depending on the
879
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,040
matchup, yes.
All right, I'm with y'all on
880
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:11,800
that.
I think they are.
881
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,120
I think they have enough weapons
now.
882
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,200
I do think they showed some
flaws.
883
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,280
I think that left side of that
offensive line, if you go put an
884
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,080
elite guy who's going to the
NFL, that kid got worked.
885
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,800
Yeah, I got work by APR all
night.
886
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,440
They have their flaws, but they
are explosive.
887
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,480
And when you got a when, oh,
look at this, look at this, look
888
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,240
at this.
This is a lot of people hating
889
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,120
right now.
No, they ain't legit, Chris.
890
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,160
They ain't legit.
They're legit.
891
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,640
They are.
Legit I think Cam.
892
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,960
Mommy got a good.
Team So the thing that impressed
893
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,840
me watching Cam Ward, I mean,
obviously the physical tools are
894
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:54,760
there, but his poise in the face
of Rush, in the face like that,
895
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,280
that was the thing that
impressed me the most about his
896
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,240
game is that he never flinched.
Chris, I'm going to say
897
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:05,640
something right here, Chris.
They averaged 5 yards of carry
898
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,400
on us running the ball.
They can run the ball.
899
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,200
They struggled.
They struggled stopping the run.
900
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,600
But we also have two of the most
dynamic players in the country
901
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,400
back there.
Yeah.
902
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,440
I mean, you got to give us.
That's also say you got to give
903
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,560
us credit too.
It's not like they just were a
904
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,360
horrible team.
It's just and again, like I
905
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,720
said, the new king is not like
they played a bad game.
906
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:31,840
Miami scored 38 points.
They didn't play the bad game.
907
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,120
They just you know, they play
the team that punched back.
908
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,880
So I'm interested to see what
they do this week for for Miami.
909
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,960
All right, anything else y'all
want to bring up because we have
910
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:50,760
just about got to the end here.
You know Miami missed 19 tackles
911
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,840
in that game.
Half one would have tuned,
912
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,080
weren't they?
Yeah, nine were tuned, so
913
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,000
obviously, you know, that kind
of plays into it.
914
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,880
But still, I mean, certainly not
their not their finest
915
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,480
performance.
I think if you're a Miami fan,
916
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,720
you're kind of look at that
like, man, we, you know, we made
917
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:07,120
some mistakes but still got out
of it, you know, with a win
918
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,800
against it, you know, a decent
team.
919
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,160
Yeah.
So kind of, you know, different
920
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,560
ways to look at it obviously.
Yeah, and I mean, I'm not, I'm
921
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,880
not trying to say that Miami
played a, a their best game.
922
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,800
I I don't think, I don't think
we got their best game, but I
923
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,360
think we got a good game from
them.
924
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,120
Yeah, when you got when you got
received with catching the ball
925
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,480
on their back.
Yeah.
926
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,920
They had a little something on
their side, that's all I'm
927
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,120
saying.
Like they they they got a, they
928
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,800
got some playmakers.
They did what they had to do.
929
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,120
So I got to give them their
props on that.
930
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,560
But I mean, when you talk about
missed tackles, sometimes it's
931
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,920
the player like I seen Tootin
bouncing off people making stuff
932
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,640
happen.
I seen Karen bouncing off people
933
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,000
making stuff happen.
And Gosnell, he's just, he's
934
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,080
slippery.
Like, come on man, we got
935
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,520
players too.
We got it.
936
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:55,000
Our coaches got to understand
that, you know, as well as our
937
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,240
fans and the players themselves.
Like man, y'all dudes too, you
938
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:02,840
know, we got to go into games
the same way, you know, we don't
939
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,600
we shouldn't have to wait till
Game 5 till we see this guy.
940
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,680
We shouldn't have to wait, you
know, till whatever to see this.
941
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,160
Like man, just if we start doing
this, we ain't even having these
942
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,880
conversations.
You know what I'm saying?
943
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:22,800
Like we sitting at 5 and O or
four and one so 100% all righty
944
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,920
so let's flip it just a couple
things on if y'all have not
945
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,240
heard.
I know we didn't talk about it
946
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:31,160
last week, but you know there
were more pressing things last
947
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,960
week.
May 7th 2025 Metallica will play
948
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,200
Lane stadium probably I think
they're saying 80,000 plus
949
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,960
there.
Brian has already purchased his
950
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,280
tickets.
He is going, he was one of the
951
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,400
first ones, but pretty cool
regardless whether you're a fan
952
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,080
of Metallica or not, it's pretty
damn cool.
953
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,320
They got that band.
They've been around 40 years to
954
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:04,960
come to Blacksburg.
That's what I said about that.
955
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,400
Ain't got it.
That what I say about that.
956
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:14,280
We're for the will these dudes
out here in wheelchairs to play
957
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,800
what we waiting what they wait
till 2025 to do this for
958
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,880
Sheldon?
Are you going to see Metallica
959
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,200
play?
Nope, that's not my cup of tea.
960
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,840
Them kids ain't going to see
them.
961
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,080
That's going to be people are
older than me going up, man, get
962
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,720
some.
I'm going to calm down what we
963
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,880
got next, Curtis.
We'll go back to that later on.
964
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,480
Y'all know?
Y'all know how I feel about
965
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,360
them.
Well, listen, you hated the song
966
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,720
until you went to spring in a
few years ago and we completely
967
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:51,040
turned you around on No, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
968
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,000
I didn't.
I didn't hate the song.
969
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,680
That's not it.
I didn't hate the song.
970
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,120
I hated people's reaction to the
song.
971
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,280
When all I heard on Twitter was
this is back when we had
972
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,640
Twitter.
This wasn't X.
973
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,640
All I heard was this is what
makes our interest the best.
974
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,840
This is what I'm like, no, y'all
make the interest the best.
975
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,400
The fans do.
Like the fans show up and
976
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,240
they're going to support.
Like it don't matter what song
977
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:17,120
I'm playing now because of that
song.
978
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,800
And people have embraced it and
they show up and do the same
979
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,320
thing every week.
Yeah, that's cool.
980
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,120
But we ain't just that.
We shouldn't be just the
981
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,600
interest, you know what I'm
saying?
982
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,760
Like that's that.
That was my take on it.
983
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,000
I never hated the song, you
know?
984
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,760
I'm just looking at it like, I
feel like we fantasize Metallica
985
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,440
too much, like we give them too
much credit.
986
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,760
I'm glad they show up.
I hope they start wearing
987
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,400
Virginia Tech stuff.
Like when I see them go on shows
988
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,200
and they start wearing Virginia
Tech hats and talking about
989
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,480
their song being played at Lane
Stadium, maybe I feel a little
990
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,360
bit better about them.
I feel like we get them more
991
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,600
publicity than they give us.
That's just my opinion, all
992
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,800
right?
And with that are in the middle
993
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,680
here.
So before we flip over to know
994
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,760
the enemy, as y'all know we are
brought to you by counts Family
995
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,720
Pharmacy, your friendly
neighborhood pharmacy.
996
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:10,640
Check out Jeremy and the staff
over three O 1 S Main St. in
997
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,800
Blacksburg.
Well, we got to close it and we
998
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,880
got to move on because the boys
got to get on a plane tomorrow.
999
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,480
I think they're getting on the
plane about lunchtime tomorrow
1000
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,400
and flying out West down to
Stanford, down on the Farm.
1001
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,440
And we do need to get to know
the enemy of the two and three
1002
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,880
or two and two Stanford Cardinal
coming off basically getting
1003
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,480
thumped by Clemson down in Death
Valley last week.
1004
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,760
So let's talk about them.
And I want to talk about their
1005
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,760
offense.
One of the more unusual or
1006
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,480
unique things you see in college
or you don't see in college
1007
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,600
football.
Their offensive coordinator is
1008
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,160
Troy Taylor.
He is also their head coach.
1009
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:54,240
Brian, hey, could you do that
even at the Pop Warner level,
1010
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,760
first of all?
And then what's give us a little
1011
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,000
bit about Troy Taylor's offense?
Could I personally do that?
1012
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,440
Or could you?
Personally do that at the Pop
1013
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,680
Warner level.
I could, I could personally do
1014
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,120
it at the Pop Warner level, but
I wouldn't want to go much past
1015
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,280
that with, with, with my
abilities.
1016
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,640
Now.
You know, I, I, I had a head
1017
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,120
coach at hand and Sydney that
was also the offensive
1018
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,920
coordinator.
So I know that that can it can
1019
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,400
be done and done at a high
level.
1020
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,160
You know, 2003 in terms of
scoring offense, we were number
1021
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,440
one in all of college football
across all divisions.
1022
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:34,520
So it can be done.
That being said, you know, it's
1023
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,120
it's not something that you see
at the power 4 level very often.
1024
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,560
It let alone, you know, if you
look at just Division One in
1025
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,240
general.
So this is going to be a
1026
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:49,400
quarterback power option attack.
It's, it's a, it's a run heavy
1027
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,600
system.
It runs through the quarterback
1028
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,120
in that option attack.
They're going to use their tight
1029
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,560
ends both as blockers and as
receiving threats.
1030
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,360
You got two out there, Benjamin,
you you Rosik and Sam Roush.
1031
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,400
Those are the tight ends that
are in this offense.
1032
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,480
It, it's, it's an interesting
offense because it, it is a,
1033
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,360
it's a run heavy team, but I
don't think that they are
1034
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,360
necessarily ready up front to be
super successful with that.
1035
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,200
But when they do get into a
rhythm, they can, they can move
1036
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,680
the ball somewhat effectively.
And you know, their quarterback,
1037
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:31,600
who we may or may not see is, is
pretty effective both with his
1038
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,960
legs and throwing the football.
Yeah, let's talk about him
1039
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,800
straight up here.
Let's talk about Ashton Daniels,
1040
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,440
A a kind of a low prospect
actually from the East Coast,
1041
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,480
played at Buford High School
down in Georgia.
1042
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,040
Buford, if I can remember, that
is where Dylan Witke went to
1043
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,000
right?
So Mike, correct me if I'm wrong
1044
00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:00,800
out there came out that was a
three start back in 2022, six
1045
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:06,400
foot three, 200 lbs.
And so far this season, like you
1046
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,880
said, Brian, lots of run.
He is leading the team in
1047
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:15,120
rushing 600 yards passing, 5
touchdowns, 6 picks, 50 rushes,
1048
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,160
250 yards per.
So obviously averaging a buck
1049
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,440
over 60 a game.
So definitely a threat in that.
1050
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,320
What are you seeing from him?
But I know he got banged up at
1051
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,360
the Clemson game and who
potentially could be taking his
1052
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,960
place.
Yeah.
1053
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,080
I mean, you kind of said it
there.
1054
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,800
I mean, this guy is really good
in the running game, really good
1055
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:41,400
with his reads in that option,
has the athletic ability to make
1056
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,840
the big play, but is very
consistent with getting good
1057
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:50,120
yardage in that running game.
You know, when he comes to the
1058
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,640
pocket and and throwing the
ball, he can make those throws
1059
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,840
on the run.
He has pretty good poise, but he
1060
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,600
does take some risk with the
football and and that's evidence
1061
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,080
with when you look at that
touchdown interception ratio
1062
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,760
there.
But when we look at who might
1063
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,960
end up starting in his place if
he's not able to go, you're
1064
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,720
looking at Justin Lampson.
I'd say just from a pure rushing
1065
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,360
standpoint, probably a little
bit better.
1066
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,720
Doesn't have the reads or the
vision that Daniels does, but I
1067
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:22,880
think in terms of pure
athleticism right up there as
1068
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,400
well.
But definitely does not possess
1069
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,840
the arm talent.
But we haven't necessarily seen
1070
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,440
him unleash a whole lot yet.
So I'd have to go look up the
1071
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,280
stuff on Lampson.
I had a chance to look at a
1072
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,080
couple receivers.
I know Tyler, I know you got
1073
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,720
one.
But I want to talk about the
1074
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:47,640
receiver, Ishmael sis, because I
feel like if when I look at his
1075
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:53,880
body type, bigger guy came out
of Colorado five star basically
1076
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,880
playing here as a red shirt
freshman, second on the team.
1077
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,240
Got a little bit of run last
year.
1078
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,720
Did anything pop on tape for him
as you were looking, Brian?
1079
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,120
Yeah, he's there probably down
the field threat.
1080
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,320
They like to run him, you know,
deep routes, wheel routes.
1081
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,480
They like to get him the ball
down the field.
1082
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,000
He let him use his body to go up
and make those plays.
1083
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,200
I think he's going to be a
handful.
1084
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,280
I think he's a guy that you got
to make sure doesn't get behind
1085
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,360
you.
You know they don't throw the
1086
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:31,640
ball a ton, but they are pretty
effective with hitting the deep
1087
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:38,240
balls when they do go for him.
All right, Tally, were you able
1088
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:40,200
to get that info on the second
wide receiver?
1089
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,880
Yeah, I got a little bit on him,
so I ain't going to mess up his
1090
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,120
name.
But is it Elik AO Manor?
1091
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,760
Does that sound right?
Ayomano, I think.
1092
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,960
There we go.
Whoever that the guy that caught
1093
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,680
all the passes against Colorado
last year, we just don't need
1094
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,240
him to do that.
I mean, this year he's got 21
1095
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:07,680
receptions, 284 yards, 2
touchdowns, averaging about 13
1096
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,440
yards per catch.
I mean, he's a handful.
1097
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:15,160
He's he's 62, about 210.
He's a a big receiver and he's a
1098
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,640
he's very skilled, probably an
NFL guy.
1099
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,280
He's just a sophomore.
So he's a very talented
1100
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,520
receiver.
But again, we have some talented
1101
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,040
people as well.
We're just going to have to
1102
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,120
figure out how to scheme to not
let him get loose on us.
1103
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,040
But I think more of the problem
is defending the run and then
1104
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,960
them busting a big plate.
You know, you got a quarterback
1105
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,800
back there that can move around
or a couple of quarterbacks back
1106
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,600
there moving around and then
next thing you know, you got,
1107
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,880
you know, hitting hit one of
those guys deep.
1108
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,960
That's what we're going to have
to fight against this week.
1109
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,800
Yeah, and I mean, they're going
to break in a not a not as much
1110
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,840
as as we saw against Vanderbilt,
but they'll be some some triple
1111
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,040
option elements thrown in there
from time to time.
1112
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,320
So we got to make sure that
we're sticking with our men
1113
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,680
outside and not getting our eyes
in the backfield.
1114
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,400
If you're a cornerback or a
safety and get caught kick
1115
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:14,080
caught peeking.
As far as Ayamano is concerned,
1116
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,920
he's got a powerful frame, kind
of reminds me of a little bit
1117
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,640
taller Jalen Lane in a lot of
ways, You know, good burst, good
1118
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,360
speed, separates well on those,
like in breaking routes, on
1119
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,080
slants, on ends, on digs.
But I'd say probably the biggest
1120
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,120
thing that he does poorly is
that he will drop the ball.
1121
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,320
He'll put the ball on the turf.
He's not as effective with that
1122
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,440
catch percentage as, you know,
your typical NFL wide receiver
1123
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,840
would be.
So that's probably the biggest
1124
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:48,080
weakness that he might have.
All right, Sean, I know you said
1125
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,640
you did a little bit of research
concerning their offensive line
1126
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,320
and their rushing.
What?
1127
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,600
What are you finding out about
that?
1128
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,960
Well, it hasn't been great
individually.
1129
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,080
Stanford does not have any
offensive lineman that grades
1130
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,080
top 50 in the ACC.
And when you look at their their
1131
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,640
team sets overall 91st in
rushing success rate, they don't
1132
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,880
really stand up particularly in
anyone statistical category.
1133
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:18,760
You know, offense overall 83rd
or excuse me, 79th in SP plus.
1134
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,800
So, you know, not great there.
They're 49th in pass blocking
1135
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,680
efficiency, which is, you know,
kind of on the lower end of
1136
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,280
power power four and they've
struggled a lot in early downs.
1137
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:32,200
So 126 in EPA.
So obviously when you get behind
1138
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,360
the sticks, you know, that makes
it, that makes even tougher, you
1139
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,960
know, facing a lot, lots of
third lungs, which if you can't,
1140
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,840
you know, if, if you're
struggling past recession, kind
1141
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,200
of makes everything worse.
So, you know, like Brian said,
1142
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,600
they do throw a pretty decent
amount of deep balls.
1143
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,160
They just aren't particularly
successful at completing a lot
1144
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,840
of them.
What did you see from Pass Pro
1145
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,920
and just, you know, obviously
the numbers are saying a lot of
1146
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,840
things there, but what did you
just get the feel of to say if
1147
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,200
we do X on the defensive line,
they're going to absolutely
1148
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,280
struggle?
I don't think we're going to
1149
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,000
have a problem getting pressure
with four.
1150
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,480
When you think about APR, when
you think about Burgos, I, I, I
1151
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,600
think we're not going to have a
problem getting into their
1152
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,760
backfield.
I think the thing that concerns
1153
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,680
me and, and you know, we saw us
some of it last week with Cam
1154
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,080
Ward is that, you know, you got
to be cognizant of those pass
1155
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,120
rush lanes and make sure you
don't give athletic quarterbacks
1156
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,880
lanes to kind of steal third
downs from you.
1157
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,920
So that's the thing that that
concerns me.
1158
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,080
But from a just a being able to
line up and and play with them
1159
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,840
in the trenches, I think we
we've got them in spades looking
1160
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,680
at our defensive line against
that offensive line.
1161
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,640
All righty.
So there's a little bit of the
1162
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,320
offensive potentially what we
could see Saturday afternoon
1163
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:59,520
330, is it ACC Network Saturday?
I haven't seen the the network
1164
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,480
yet, might find that out for me.
Efforting.
1165
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,120
Efredine, Efredine.
But while Brian or Tally or
1166
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,320
Shelton find that, we are going
to flip over to the defensive
1167
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:15,600
side of the ball.
Brian defense led by Bobby
1168
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,880
April.
Give me a little bit about this.
1169
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,640
I think it's got one of those
unique defenses, right?
1170
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,360
Yeah.
I mean, we're kind of looking at
1171
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:32,040
that, that 245 defense that we
saw some with the UNC up until
1172
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,760
the last last couple years
there.
1173
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,640
But they will also shift over
into a three, three stack.
1174
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,200
So you get a little bit of
multiplicity there where they're
1175
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,440
going to have multiple fronts
thrown at our offense.
1176
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,440
And you know, primarily they're
going to be in that.
1177
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,760
That 245 though, especially in
this passing downs very much
1178
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,200
predicated on stopping the run.
First they want to get you
1179
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,160
behind the sticks and then, you
know, bring pressure from
1180
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,800
multiple levels, Bring some of
those pressure packages that
1181
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,440
confuse the offensive line, get
you to make some mistakes so
1182
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,520
that that's really their their
goal and their bread and butter
1183
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,880
is to play well on 1st down.
And then you send some of their
1184
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,120
their outside linebackers at
you.
1185
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,360
All righty.
And talking about sending those
1186
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,840
outside linebackers, talking
about pressure, they are really
1187
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,600
LED in that department by a guy
by the name of David Bailey.
1188
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:31,200
David Bailey was a top 50 player
when he came out in 2022.
1189
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,720
He was one of the top five edges
in the country.
1190
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,320
He's 6 foot three.
He's about 240 lbs now out of
1191
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,360
Mater D High School.
That's a big one out in
1192
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:45,680
California that puts out studs.
Last year, 5 sacks with 34
1193
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,080
tackles.
This year in just four games,
1194
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,880
two sacks already, 8 total
tackles.
1195
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,280
Brian, I know we were going to
talk about kind of the leader
1196
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:58,320
there, Anthony Franklin, but you
messaged me and said I like
1197
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,440
Franklin, but we got to talk
about David Bailey.
1198
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:01,960
What?
What did you see from him on
1199
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,080
that take?
Yeah, I mean, he's the dude.
1200
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:08,160
He stands out on this defense.
He plays that outside linebacker
1201
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,440
spot in their base set, but he
will be a stack backer in the
1202
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:16,120
335.
He comes off the edge with with
1203
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:21,560
with really good balance, able
to bend very well, get around
1204
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,520
the outside, make plays on the
quarterback really good bull
1205
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:30,120
rush isn't lost when he's asked
to to have coverage
1206
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,200
responsibilities either.
So he's he's he's a little
1207
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,960
versatile in that way.
So he's really kind of a do it
1208
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,880
all guy from that position.
All righty.
1209
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,720
And so Shelton sent me this as
well.
1210
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:49,920
RSD Man 97 ACC Network 330I
think we are there Bell Cal
1211
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,320
there because they know we're
going to come in to watch every
1212
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,960
week.
Valley.
1213
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,640
Were you able to get that stuff
for Tristan Sinclair?
1214
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,560
Yeah, Tristan Sinclair, one of
the linebackers, he's actually
1215
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,360
he was a when you talk about
high school coming out of high
1216
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,320
school, he was a stud coming out
of high school, borderline 5
1217
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:14,640
star player, big offers, you
know, Notre Dame, Colorado,
1218
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,760
Texas A&M, Nebraska, Southern
Cal, Utah.
1219
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,640
So had a lot of good offers and
and has been, you know, very
1220
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:30,200
productive at at at Stanford.
He's their leading Tyler right
1221
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,680
now.
He's got a sack so far this
1222
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:38,120
season and about 24 tackles.
So he's going to be a handful.
1223
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,920
You know, they're in that line
back in court as well.
1224
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,240
Brian, what you got on him?
Yeah, I mean, the big thing
1225
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,440
about him, I mean, he's their
definitely their best run
1226
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,120
defense linebacker on the field,
really good at shedding
1227
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,480
blockers, beating the play in
the gap.
1228
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,120
I wouldn't call him as good
sideline to sideline as maybe
1229
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,920
some of the other linebackers
we've seen this year, but he
1230
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,840
makes up for it and just having
a nose for the football and kind
1231
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,280
of being wherever he needs to
be.
1232
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:11,240
So definitely a guy that we got
to account for every play on
1233
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,800
that, that linebacking unit for
the Cardinal.
1234
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,200
All right, Sheldon, send me a
quick message.
1235
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,880
Sheldon, you said you had a
couple things on David Bailey,
1236
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,520
obviously.
Yeah, so he is graded out at at
1237
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,840
91 on PFF, not only the highest
on the team, but also the
1238
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,040
highest in the ACC.
So they they like him the most.
1239
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,480
Now he he has been banged up the
past couple of games, which is
1240
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,040
why he's only played 39 snaps
total the last few games.
1241
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,200
But he does have 11 quarterback
pressures, which is obviously,
1242
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,120
you know, a really a gaudy total
at this point in the season.
1243
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,320
Like I said, Sinclair at the
linebacker spot, leading tackler
1244
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,640
Bernadel grades out at 70 on
BFF, really good and run
1245
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,360
defense, another one of their
linebackers.
1246
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,360
And then I've got a couple, you
know, decent corners, Colin
1247
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:03,800
Wright, who's averaging 4.2
yards per per target when he's
1248
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,880
thrown out this year and has a
really good pass rating when
1249
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,920
teams go at him.
So, you know, pretty decent,
1250
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,240
decent corners overall.
Defensively, again, still not
1251
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:18,360
great. 90th and SP plus and
102nd and success rate allowed
1252
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,400
in particular, they've actually
struggled overall as a
1253
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,120
secondary.
They rank 112th and drop back
1254
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,800
success rates that includes
passing attempts and Sachs as
1255
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,000
well.
You know, they just they just
1256
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,080
haven't really been good in that
that back four there.
1257
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,040
Yep.
And you and you mentioned Colin,
1258
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,320
right?
And, and Brian, I want you to
1259
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,520
tell me what you were seeing on
tape with him because he's
1260
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,400
listed on the depth chart as a
corner.
1261
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,960
And you know, so far this season
as far as a corner goes and
1262
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,880
playing last year, he's already
got 2 picks this year.
1263
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:53,000
One of those was in the Clemson
game, couple tackles for loss
1264
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,680
last year, 5 past deflections.
Where are they lining him up?
1265
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,800
Because you know, they're saying
corner, but are they doing a lot
1266
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,560
of different things?
Is he's like their gadget guy
1267
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,240
they can do anything with?
Yeah, I mean, he's basically a
1268
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,960
nickel safety is kind of how
they're deploying him.
1269
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,440
You know, he'll be, he'll play
kind of a box safety.
1270
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,800
He'll he'll also, you know, line
up outside of the nickel so that
1271
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,520
they'll use him a couple
different ways, but that that's
1272
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:21,760
really how they're lining him
up.
1273
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,880
And you know, looking at him
play, I mean, he's really sound
1274
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,480
from a technical standpoint.
I like the way he plays
1275
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:28,680
football.
He does a really good job of
1276
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,760
playing with leverage out there
on the outside.
1277
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,600
So he's definitely somebody that
you know we've got to account
1278
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,680
for and like I said from from
that role, he is very good and
1279
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,520
run support, but also isn't a
liability in that, in that pass
1280
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,400
coverage piece as well.
All righty.
1281
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,520
So there is sort of the know
your enemy, some key players
1282
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,800
from the Stanford Cardinal as we
go out there Saturday to take
1283
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,480
them on.
But, you know, always we're
1284
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,360
going to talk about what we feel
are the keys to the Hokies
1285
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,800
games.
So Jonathan Talley, I'm going to
1286
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,880
kick to you first.
Any specific keys, whether
1287
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:12,960
mental, statistical, just feel
for this game for the Hokies,
1288
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,200
Yeah, It's just punch.
It's not mental.
1289
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,640
It's physical.
You got a punch.
1290
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:28,920
Like go drink a Red Bull and act
like a idiot from the trailer
1291
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:35,279
park when Alabama loses.
Punch, punch something, not
1292
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:38,200
physically punch somebody.
But you got to go into the game
1293
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,840
and you got to have the same
mindset as you had against
1294
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,800
Miami.
Not just because it's Miami, not
1295
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,680
just because they got the little
number by their name.
1296
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,600
You got to go into the game
knowing that it's going to be a
1297
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,279
fight every game.
If we win in every game, like we
1298
01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:52,680
went into that Miami game, I
don't want to keep dwelling on
1299
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,960
it.
I feel like things would have
1300
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,000
been much different.
So if you got to go into this
1301
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,880
game ready to punch.
And I think we'll be fine if we
1302
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,640
if we do that.
Sean, what about you?
1303
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,640
What?
What is your key in this game?
1304
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,200
I mean, I think just, you know,
kind of be able to attack them
1305
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,439
vertically in the passing game.
Like I said, this is a team that
1306
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,920
struggles a lot defending the
the pass.
1307
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,720
So, you know, I'd like to see
some some creativity there,
1308
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,200
just, you know, be able to push
the ball down field.
1309
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,760
I think it's a good match up for
Vt.
1310
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,319
You know, I know, you know, much
has been made about the the end
1311
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:27,479
to last week.
It seems like from, you know,
1312
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,920
everything we've seen with the
program, they are 100% moved on
1313
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,200
from, from Miami game, you know,
refocused.
1314
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,160
And I think they come out pretty
strong and, and you know, if
1315
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:36,960
they play like they're they're
capable of, they will win this
1316
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,840
game.
Brian, what about you, man?
1317
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:44,520
I'm gonna say it here.
Don't let one play beat you
1318
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,200
twice.
I noticed.
1319
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,760
I know you're looking at based
on what Sheldon said, but
1320
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,319
looking at everything I've seen,
it looks like they've done the
1321
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:54,440
job of kind of putting Miami
behind them.
1322
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,280
I want to see it on the field
because we we can't do that
1323
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,920
thing where we let one game and
one play beat us 2 times.
1324
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:06,280
So we need to go out there.
We have to get back to 500, keep
1325
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,960
moving forward in ACC play and
see what happens and let it
1326
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,400
shake out.
But we got to take care of
1327
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,120
Stanford first.
That's what's in front of you.
1328
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:13,640
Don't worry about what's behind
you.
1329
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,760
Don't worry about what's ahead
of them.
1330
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,000
Go ahead and take care of
Stanford.
1331
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:21,560
Yep, and and for me it is going
to be don't lose what you found
1332
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,600
Friday night because what you
found Friday night was the team,
1333
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:30,480
not only all of us on this
podcast expected everybody over.
1334
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:32,560
It's over here in the chat
expected.
1335
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,080
That's the team we expected.
If that team that plays like
1336
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:43,240
that shows up Saturday, it's
going to be 645 and I'm going to
1337
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,120
be enjoying dinner.
What a nice victory beer.
1338
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,600
If that team shows up Saturday,
don't lose that because there
1339
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,280
are not a lot of teams left on
the schedule that can beat that
1340
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:58,800
team that played Friday.
And there's probably, I would
1341
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,280
say maybe, and maybe I'm being
boisterous here.
1342
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,360
Maybe I'm being super confident.
To me, that's only probably 10
1343
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,280
or 12 teams in the country that
could beat that team that showed
1344
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,960
up Friday.
And it would be a game like we
1345
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,720
played against Miami.
It would be a war.
1346
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,640
All righty now we got to get
into our predictions and I'm
1347
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,400
gonna let Shelton go first.
Shelton give me a score
1348
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:25,040
prediction of this game.
I'm gonna go Hokies.
1349
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:30,600
I'm gonna go 27 to 17.
I think they're gonna come out,
1350
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,960
they're gonna cover, they're
gonna play well.
1351
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,680
I think the the defense will be
highly motivated.
1352
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,280
They're gonna get to the the
young quarterback that's we
1353
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:42,040
presume it to be filling in for
for Ashton Daniels, and I think
1354
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,520
they're going to make life
miserable for him.
1355
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,720
I predict at least one sack for
APR, if not more.
1356
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:56,480
If not more, Callie, I'm fading
the Hokies, baby, I'm fading
1357
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:59,240
them.
Put my face up in the locker
1358
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:04,200
room.
I'm going to say 3427 Stanford.
1359
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,520
Only reason I'm saying it, it's
because I got to see.
1360
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,560
I got to see it on the field, I
got to see it on the field.
1361
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,320
We keep losing close games.
I got to go by the past.
1362
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,120
You got to show me something in
the future, Got to pick against
1363
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,320
you.
Stanford Tally is not on board
1364
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,440
until they show him something.
I feel like we heard this story
1365
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:24,640
last year and then they started
showing him some Brian.
1366
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:30,120
Siegler I'm not fading, I think
because I don't think it's going
1367
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,360
to be a close game.
Being honest with you, I don't
1368
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,000
think it's going to be a
blowout, but I think we're going
1369
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,800
to have a 14 point win there.
I think it's going to be 3420
1370
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,760
Hokies.
I think APR has three sacks.
1371
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,240
Show them.
Let's do.
1372
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,320
It that'd be 10 for the that's
10 for the year 10 fucking 10
1373
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,600
might be going after some record
chair.
1374
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,440
I'm going to throw this up.
Chris Lester.
1375
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:55,080
Everybody always out there 3510
Hokies.
1376
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,800
I'm 3120 Hokies.
I think they continue to bring
1377
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,800
that team.
What I was going to say,
1378
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaking of Chris Lester, thank
you.
1379
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,400
Thank you, Chris.
Thank you, Chris for texting me
1380
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,800
at 12:00 at night or 1:00 in the
morning.
1381
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,960
And let me know what you watch
on film.
1382
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,880
So I have to wake up and watch
it too.
1383
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:17,840
It is your rule.
It is your fault.
1384
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,680
It is your fault that I was up
watching the game.
1385
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,520
So thank you, Chris.
Now, Chris, that's my God, man.
1386
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,360
We go over a lot of football
together, especially, you know,
1387
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,040
hokey football.
And Chris is damn near a coach
1388
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,040
from from the couch like he's
he's going over film and he's
1389
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,120
watching he's not watching the
ball like some fans watch the
1390
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,200
game and watch the ball.
Chris is watching everything.
1391
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:43,160
Hey, when you watch it, what
look at look, look at this false
1392
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,360
step he takes.
I'm like, how you?
1393
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,840
It's 2:00 in the morning, man.
What are you looking at this
1394
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,520
for?
Fuck it, let me get up and watch
1395
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,400
it to do so.
It's my God, man.
1396
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,840
I love, I love the way he
approaches it.
1397
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,400
I I in the comment comments he
puts in here are always super
1398
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,360
insightful too.
And I'll tell you another thing
1399
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:03,680
about Chris.
I don't know if somebody all
1400
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,040
know but that that that dude is
tall when when I saw him in
1401
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,680
Nashville.
I didn't realize he was that big
1402
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,000
and tall either until I was in
Nashville.
1403
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,280
Like on the pictures he ain't
fat by no means, but in the
1404
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,200
pictures he look kind of skinny.
Like now I got a back like
1405
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,560
Dwight Howard.
I'm like damn.
1406
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,080
I mean like 6, like I'm like 6-2
and he's looking down at me.
1407
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,040
I'm like, no, I don't like that.
I don't like being around people
1408
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,480
looking down at me.
Dawg, got to sit down.
1409
01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:29,920
If we're going to hang out, you
got to sit down.
1410
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,880
Stop standing up over me.
All right, I'm going to give my
1411
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,600
prediction now.
I should have waited till after
1412
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,520
I've talked to because now we
know exactly what to do for
1413
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,360
Tally.
If you want to wake Tally up in
1414
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,520
the middle of the night, text
him about a football play from
1415
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,080
our game.
He will wake up.
1416
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,000
He will go downstairs.
He will turn on the.
1417
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,280
TV it's got to be a false step.
Where's the false step?
1418
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,880
Point out the false step.
Special team miscue, several
1419
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,080
teams miscues.
Give me 3120 Hokies.
1420
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,800
I think I'm with Brian on this.
This is going to be in my
1421
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,800
opinion, I ain't going to say
easy game, but cruise control
1422
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,520
game.
Just do what you do.
1423
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,160
They ain't going to be able to
stop it.
1424
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,440
Do what you on defense.
You're going to make them pay a
1425
01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:11,840
few times.
Got a couple other hokey
1426
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,440
predictions here.
Got the rock out here saying
1427
01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:17,240
3813.
They take out their
1428
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:23,360
frustrations.
We got oh, look at this RSD man
1429
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,200
Say it's close.
Oh, we got a lot of them coming.
1430
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,080
Oh, look who is staying up late
tonight.
1431
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,200
Jason.
Jason staying up late.
1432
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,960
Hey, we, we, we, we about to
play a special one for you.
1433
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,960
We are as well and Jason
Schwartz out here.
1434
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:41,080
Hey.
I got.
1435
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,080
A les VA baby.
All righty.
1436
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,880
Well, believe it or not, we
watch more than just a hokey
1437
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,280
games on the weekends.
At least I do.
1438
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,120
As mad as I was Saturday, I
watched a lot of football on a
1439
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,320
on on Friday I watched a lot of
football actually I was pissed
1440
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,880
off on Saturday.
On Friday into Saturday I
1441
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,200
literally had a four finger
Scotch after the game.
1442
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,120
I can go to bed till 1:30 on
Friday night and I had to be up
1443
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,000
early Saturday.
It was not a fun day at all.
1444
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,720
But we do watch more than one
game.
1445
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,480
We look at games every week.
Here we have our big Screener
1446
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:24,520
segment where last week the only
two people at 500 or better were
1447
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,440
myself, the music man, Jason
Long.
1448
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:34,200
He we both went three and three,
Brian two and four, Tally two
1449
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,880
and four, Miranda two and four,
and Shelton two and four.
1450
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:44,000
As far as the season records go,
Brian and Tally slightly ahead
1451
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,800
at a 53 point win clip.
I am the 5050 man, Shelton.
1452
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,760
You get 40% man.
You got, you got, you got to,
1453
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,000
you got to make some picks here,
man.
1454
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,480
Pump those numbers up.
I need some regression to the
1455
01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:58,440
mean here.
There you go, regression through
1456
01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:00,520
the mean and here comes the
money picks.
1457
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,240
Right?
Here we go, big screeners.
1458
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,880
We start off as we always do,
with Brian Siegler.
1459
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:10,600
Brian, where we going this week?
Hey, we're going to UNLV baby
1460
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,720
Las Vegas.
Hey.
1461
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:19,440
Baby Syracuse taking on UNLV,
UNLV the favor by 6 here.
1462
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,080
I'm going to take Hughes.
I've liked what they've done so
1463
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,360
far.
I like their quarterback.
1464
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:28,920
I think they're going to make
just enough plays with with the
1465
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,240
flux and everything that UNLV is
dealing with.
1466
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,920
We'll see if they they miss a
beat here at some point,
1467
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,800
especially once the competition
ramps up a little bit like it is
1468
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,600
this week.
So give me QS.
1469
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:42,840
Yeah, I'm with you.
I think, you know, they beat
1470
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,080
Fresno State, usually a pretty
good West Coast team.
1471
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,840
They they absolutely pummeled
them.
1472
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,440
But I think last week was the
mentality of look at all this
1473
01:17:50,440 --> 01:17:52,640
shit that's happened.
It's US against the world.
1474
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,200
Let's go out there and play.
I think they crashed back to
1475
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,000
earth.
I give me Syracuse, give me the
1476
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,880
points.
I think Syracuse wins outright
1477
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:05,480
as well.
Sally or Shelton Shelton,
1478
01:18:05,480 --> 01:18:07,640
Shelton Shelton.
Yes, it would help if I was
1479
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,560
actually paying attention.
Yeah, I'm taking Syracuse too.
1480
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,000
Just for record.
I'm I'm making these picks
1481
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,800
mainly best off vibes because
I've struggled so much last two
1482
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,480
weeks.
So just going with going with
1483
01:18:19,480 --> 01:18:23,520
the vibes, giving the cues.
Hey, Sheldon, I think, I think
1484
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,800
we're, we're, we're pretty much
on the same pace here.
1485
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,720
So I, I, I had a rough week last
week.
1486
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,400
I was like, you know what, how
am I feeling?
1487
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,160
What am I feeling this week?
Just just ride with the vibes.
1488
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,760
I think that's going to live us
live to live to do me better
1489
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:37,880
this week.
So we'll see.
1490
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,560
Yeah, I'm going to ride the
vibes, too.
1491
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:46,200
I'm going to say cues as well.
Kind of like Brian said, UNLV
1492
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,680
has a lot of stuff going on, so
at some point I feel like
1493
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,240
they're going to stumble.
I think it's going to be this
1494
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,840
week.
All righty.
1495
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,040
And the two back there are
wonderful.
1496
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:02,080
Rider Miranda and our music man
Jason are saying roll with the
1497
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,840
running rebels, roll with Vegas.
They liked what they saw last
1498
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,520
week after all that craziness,
so.
1499
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,560
Hey, hey, listen, you'll put
y'all pics in here.
1500
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:11,880
I'll definitely throw your name
up.
1501
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,320
Chris, Chris saying he's going
to take the points too.
1502
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,120
All right, all right, oh oh,
here we go.
1503
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:22,000
This is why it's really picking.
Hey, you know what shout out to
1504
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,920
SWVA man.
I ordered some stuff from them
1505
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,840
I'm getting some stuff from them
man, if y'all have not went to
1506
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,800
their website to take a look at
their products man, they got
1507
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,200
some awesome shirts and hats.
I'm waiting on a orange hat.
1508
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,360
It's the only reason I haven't
got a hat, but the the white
1509
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,960
hats that they're putting out
gas.
1510
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,160
I just sweat too much for a
white hat.
1511
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,320
So I try to stay away from them
because I can only have like one
1512
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,840
time.
But now they're putting some
1513
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,480
some some really good stuff out
and it's big man friendly.
1514
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,120
Like shoot, they got 3X4X
shirts.
1515
01:19:53,480 --> 01:19:57,080
Y'all need to go hop on their
website right now and and take a
1516
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,000
look at their products because I
just got me some coming my way.
1517
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,800
All righty there we go.
So definitely look at SWVA.
1518
01:20:05,480 --> 01:20:11,000
I am the next man up and let's
go to Berkeley where you the you
1519
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:16,760
travels across country, y'all.
This is a 10/30 East Coast kick.
1520
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:22,640
10:30 This is ACC after dark,
which means I'm going to
1521
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,440
probably stay up till 2:00 in
the morning.
1522
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,000
There you go.
Miami versus Cal.
1523
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,600
Let's pull it up here.
Cal getting 10 points, Miami
1524
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,880
laying 10 points.
Brian, what are you doing before
1525
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,320
I get to make my pick on this
one?
1526
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,720
Hey, you know what, We're going
to have a good time.
1527
01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:42,200
We're going to we're going to
ride with OTT out there in in
1528
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,920
Berkeley and we're going to take
Cal.
1529
01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:48,440
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I am with you on
this.
1530
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,080
Cal is getting game day for the
first time.
1531
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,360
I think now there are only like
2 schools that have never gotten
1532
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,960
game day if I'm not right.
I know we're one of them, no?
1533
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,920
One of them and I feel like
there's one more, but I think
1534
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,920
Couch is too good of a team.
Like if, if y'all know Justin
1535
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,800
Wilcox.
Justin Wilcox is a good
1536
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,000
defensive minded head coach.
We sort of laid a little bit of
1537
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,320
a game plan of how to kind of
get a little funk in Miami.
1538
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,760
I think again, a 10/30 start
time that is.
1539
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:22,000
Man, it couldn't happen to a
better team.
1540
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,440
I'll say that.
But the ACC can't do that
1541
01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:26,520
bullshit.
Like the latest start should be
1542
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,680
830 when teams go out West.
We got lucky.
1543
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,360
Ours is at 3:30 in the
afternoon.
1544
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,360
Body clock's going to be fine.
But for them, I think it's I
1545
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,320
think they win, but I think 10
is just too much.
1546
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:42,200
Gimme Cal shell Moss.
It's a battle of woke versus
1547
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:48,200
coke game day in town.
The means will be crazy.
1548
01:21:48,440 --> 01:21:52,520
I cannot wait for this match up.
I will be conspicuously flying
1549
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,720
Twitter the the entire game, but
I'm taking I'm taking Cal.
1550
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,840
I think they'll be kind of, you
know, pumped up with Gambian
1551
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,000
town and a tough fight for
Miami.
1552
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:06,760
So give me, give me.
The Bears tally, yeah, man, I'm
1553
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:08,400
going to go Miami on this game,
man.
1554
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,800
You know, Ward spent a little
bit of time out there on the
1555
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,240
West Coast.
You know, he was carving people
1556
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:19,640
up on a on a not as good team.
So it's kind of going to be a
1557
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,600
where he was able to get on the
big stage at the beginning.
1558
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,000
So I feel like it's going to be
kind of a let me show out kind
1559
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,360
of game for him.
So I'm going to take Miami in
1560
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:32,840
this one.
All righty, Miranda rolls with
1561
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:38,000
us on Cal and Jason is riding
with Tally.
1562
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,640
Tally.
I'm sending something to you
1563
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,280
because if you ain't seen some
of those things created by some
1564
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,440
of these Cal accounts with the
quote versus coke.
1565
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,280
Oh yeah, I did Freaking
hilarious.
1566
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,920
Hilarious.
Hey man, the the.
1567
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,600
The Cal Twitter is.
Awesome.
1568
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,480
You got to you got to give them
their love because I mean, I
1569
01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:02,600
mean, it's, it's probably like
10 or 12 accounts that like
1570
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,000
really is really good stuff out
there.
1571
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,240
So.
I'm I'm going to say something
1572
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,560
real quick here, Josh Young talk
about not stopping tune.
1573
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,280
They aren't stopping, not
financial.
1574
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,880
Tune is a top 10 running back
right now in the country.
1575
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:21,360
So and I don't know, maybe maybe
he's really good, but tune's
1576
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,760
tune's legit right now.
All righty, all good too, huh?
1577
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,200
Odd is good too.
Oh yeah, he's good.
1578
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,120
I don't know if he's Tooting
good, but he's good.
1579
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,640
He's good Tooting.
Good's tough.
1580
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,480
Sheldon, where you trying to
make some money?
1581
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,360
We're going to Louisville, KY.
I thought this would be a really
1582
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,120
good match up to pretty solid
teams.
1583
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,640
Got SMU coming in hot, big win
last week.
1584
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,840
I think though, they're going to
be on a little bit of a hangover
1585
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,360
and I think Louisville's going
to be motivated coming off a
1586
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,280
loss to Notre Dame.
So I've got Louisville taking
1587
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,680
this one.
All righty, did you lay the
1588
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,800
points?
I'm riding right there with with
1589
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,840
Shelton on this one.
I think Louisville is going to
1590
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,120
have a bounce back game in this
one.
1591
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,360
I think SMU is going to come
back to earth a little bit.
1592
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,480
I think this could be about a
about a 10 point Cardinal win
1593
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:11,640
here.
And I'm with y'all on that as
1594
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,520
well.
Give me Louisville.
1595
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:18,560
The over unders interested in
this one is at 56 where you like
1596
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,280
first quarter vibes.
He's going to tell if it's going
1597
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,560
to hit the 56 and over because
these two teams do have heavy
1598
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:31,880
offensive minded head coaches.
So if you are at 2017 to 21
1599
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,800
points, take the second quarter,
try to catch the over under,
1600
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,640
which at that point in time
it'll probably be like 65, take
1601
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,120
it.
If it's over 70, don't take it.
1602
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:48,280
If it's under 707065, take it.
Sorry, Gambling Valley.
1603
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,360
Yeah, now I'm taking Louisville
in this one as well.
1604
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,880
But besides this game, what is
what is going on with Florida
1605
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,240
State?
What's going on with Florida
1606
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:04,200
State, man?
3 letters. 3 letters.
1607
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,640
What the ACC?
No, they suck balls.
1608
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:13,600
I mean what what is eju?
That is their problem.
1609
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,840
Literally that is if they would
just put in Brock Lynn.
1610
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,840
I think they would at worst be
like 3 and two.
1611
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:27,080
Right now they look pitiful.
I mean, it's looking like Jordan
1612
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,800
Travis covered up a whole lot of
holes in that offense,
1613
01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:32,120
especially with that offensive
line.
1614
01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:37,280
So I mean, it's really, I think
that and what they lost on
1615
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:39,360
defense has been a really bad
combo for them.
1616
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,600
Yeah, you know what's funny?
Florida State analytically has
1617
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,240
the best special teams in the
country.
1618
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,320
That's how.
But that's how that's how bad
1619
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,400
their offense is that their
their special team is so good,
1620
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,400
evens a solid and they're 14
like.
1621
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,800
That's crazy.
Miranda goes Louisville, Jason
1622
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,800
goes.
We are all laying 7 points
1623
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,840
riding with Louisville.
Hey, that's, that's the first
1624
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,880
one everybody's riding with,
with one team across the board
1625
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,040
there, so.
That's the first one tonight.
1626
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,160
That is the first one tonight.
You don't want to know.
1627
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,120
The White VIX says that right
there.
1628
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,200
Yeah.
They had to kind of do it.
1629
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:21,080
Coral can be very volatile.
Yeah and just real quick before
1630
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:25,080
we click the tallies pick, just
so y'all know Jason has been
1631
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:29,000
wanting to pick FSU all year so
we can play that song.
1632
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,560
Yeah, but you ain't getting to
play it this year, buddy it.
1633
01:26:35,480 --> 01:26:37,520
Might be a long.
It might be a long while.
1634
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:41,200
Tally, where are you taking us
for Saturday with some gambling,
1635
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,720
man.
I think we're going and checking
1636
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:49,520
out A&M and Mizzou.
Think it's going to be a pretty
1637
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:54,000
competitive game.
I would say, though, I mean,
1638
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,800
I've watched both teams play in
this state.
1639
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,720
They both got two good teams,
but I think Mizzou is going to
1640
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:03,720
take this game out right.
Yeah, I'm riding with Mizzou as
1641
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:08,880
well there Tally.
I, I, you know, A&M has been
1642
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:13,200
kind of a conundrum.
I think Mizzou has got a little
1643
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,160
bit of a wake up call with a
couple games here.
1644
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,920
I think they would come out
focused and I think A&M just not
1645
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:22,800
going to have enough at the end.
All right, I, I am fading y'all
1646
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:28,840
to right there because I do
believe that Texas A&M was going
1647
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,200
to win this game.
I've seen as you play a couple
1648
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,400
Times Now, they they, I'm not
saying they they're not a good
1649
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,080
team, but go to the Boston
College game.
1650
01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:41,680
That was a game go to the
Vanderbilt.
1651
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:42,840
They should have lost to
Vanderbilt.
1652
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:44,920
There is not even a question.
They should have lost to
1653
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,840
Vanderbilt.
And I think going down to Kyle
1654
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,360
Field, I think it's going to be
loud.
1655
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,840
I think A&M is kind of finding
their groove.
1656
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,760
Elko we know is a good coach.
I'll lay two points.
1657
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,400
I'll take the home team.
I think it's I think this could
1658
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,480
be like a fun game this weekend
to watch.
1659
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:03,000
I don't know what time it is on.
I'll look it up.
1660
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,360
Hopefully not 3:30 because I
don't get to really enjoy it,
1661
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,640
but I think it could be a super
entertaining game on Saturday.
1662
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,080
Sheldon.
I took Missouri, although in
1663
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,320
hindsight I feel like they're
kind of due for a loss, so maybe
1664
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:15,880
I shouldn't have done that.
But you know what?
1665
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,200
We'll stick with it.
Vibes.
1666
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:22,240
Vibes Valley, Missouri Miranda,
Missouri.
1667
01:28:22,480 --> 01:28:25,920
The Music Man is riding with me
tonight.
1668
01:28:26,440 --> 01:28:28,480
All right.
Our wonderful contributing
1669
01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:36,400
writer Miranda is taking us down
to Columbia where Ole Miss comes
1670
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:40,440
in after a loss, which was a
physical football loss to
1671
01:28:40,440 --> 01:28:43,400
Kentucky last week.
Kentucky can slow down some
1672
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,480
offenses, y'all.
They made Georgia, Kentucky.
1673
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,640
That's that's all the team, man.
Yeah, but they gave up thirty to
1674
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,640
South Carolina.
Make that make sense.
1675
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,840
Ole Miss going there laying 9
1/2.
1676
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:56,840
Brian, where you taking on this
one?
1677
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,600
I'm riding with Ole Miss on this
one.
1678
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,080
I'm still not a believer in
what's going on down there in
1679
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:07,360
Columbia.
I don't think that this South
1680
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,280
Carolina team is going to be
able to match what's going to be
1681
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,040
a pissed off Ole Miss team after
the way that game went down.
1682
01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:19,000
And that's exactly why I am on
board with you to lay 9 1/2.
1683
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,520
It's the Lane Kiffin get slowed
down the next game he going to
1684
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:26,560
put at least 45 up and I do not
think South Carolina has that
1685
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,480
offense to stay within 10
points.
1686
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,160
Sheldon.
Well, you guys know me at this
1687
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,760
point, one of my biggest
philosophies I like taking teams
1688
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,400
are coming in pissed off.
And you know Ole Miss is pissed
1689
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:38,520
off after what happened last
week.
1690
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,080
So I'm taking the Rebels big
time.
1691
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,800
Yeah, I mean I mean y'all have
already said it.
1692
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,880
You're going to have a pissed
off old piss.
1693
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:52,120
So that's what I'm taking.
Yeah, forget them.
1694
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,800
I don't like them either.
There we go.
1695
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,360
Oh.
My God is picking Ole Miss as
1696
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,840
well and Jason.
Fade in the pod.
1697
01:30:02,440 --> 01:30:10,360
Fade.
Oh my goodness.
1698
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,520
All righty.
Well, let's finally, we finally
1699
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,360
get here as we do it through one
of the big screeners every week.
1700
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:20,360
And our wonderful music man,
Jason Long, who has joined us so
1701
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:24,720
lovingly in the chat tonight, is
going up to Minnesota for the
1702
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,040
Trojans and the Gophers.
Wait till you hear this.
1703
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,200
Welcome back to guitar licks and
gambling picks.
1704
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,680
I'm Jason Long.
Don't know if you notice I'm a
1705
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:55,240
little bit of a loose streak.
I've lost two in a row and no
1706
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,080
favorites.
So this week I'm.
1707
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:03,600
Taking a dog, the USC.
They traveling back to the
1708
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,800
Midwest two weeks ago.
I lost money when they went to
1709
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,320
Michigan.
I don't plan on making the same
1710
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:10,360
mistake.
Twice.
1711
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,160
This time they're going to
Minnesota.
1712
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,880
Now the Golden Gophers.
They've been a little bit up.
1713
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:21,040
And down this season.
But they're getting 10 1/2
1714
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,440
points at home.
That feels like a little bit too
1715
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:26,680
much for me, so I'm going
Minnesota against.
1716
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:34,520
US.
Nothing caution.
1717
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:42,040
Sorrow.
Nothing caution.
1718
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:54,040
Hold on.
One times it's happening.
1719
01:31:54,040 --> 01:32:01,800
Hold on to see.
Him out in the rain.
1720
01:32:02,440 --> 01:32:09,600
Herbal rain.
Purple rain in the rain.
1721
01:32:36,440 --> 01:32:37,680
So let's get back on the winning
track.
1722
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,600
Let's go Minnesota.
Let's go Hokies.
1723
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:44,880
See you next week.
There we go.
1724
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,440
Buddy, I feel like it's 2003
again.
1725
01:32:48,440 --> 01:32:51,320
We are in his apartment drinking
all sorts of concoctions.
1726
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,240
Hey, are are we going to get a
cease and desist on this one?
1727
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:55,520
I don't know.
We might.
1728
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,920
That'd be cool.
So, so the the story goes is
1729
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,000
Jason did a cover.
I think it's a little red
1730
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:02,800
Corvette, right?
Little red Corvette.
1731
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,320
Another wonderful Prince song.
And by the way, if you're
1732
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,880
wondering why he did Prince, for
y'all who are uneducated, Prince
1733
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,280
is from Minneapolis, MN, the
home of the Golden Gophers.
1734
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:15,160
There we go.
But he did this on a little
1735
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:19,120
localized CDI.
Don't know how many he sold.
1736
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,560
I had one, Brian had one.
We all were his boys.
1737
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:25,440
We, we gave the money.
We, we, he got a cease of desist
1738
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:29,600
letter from Prince's attorneys
basically saying don't be that
1739
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,520
shit anymore.
It is framed.
1740
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:33,640
I don't know where it is.
I'm surprised he didn't bring it
1741
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:40,440
up, but that goes to the story.
Never forget that, Never forget
1742
01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:44,200
that.
In this one, I mean, you know,
1743
01:33:44,440 --> 01:33:49,200
Minnesota 10 1/2.
I, I got to take them points,
1744
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,320
man.
Let me get Minnesota here.
1745
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,320
I think it's going to be a, you
know, 7-8 point win for the
1746
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,400
Trojans, but I think Minnesota's
going to keep an interest in
1747
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:01,520
there at the end.
I am with you on this.
1748
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,600
Give me Minnesota.
Minnesota got screwed if y'all
1749
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,320
didn't see the end of that
Michigan game.
1750
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,280
They recovered that punt.
They recovered that onside kick.
1751
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:14,840
They were not all sides and they
had the momentum going and 10
1752
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:20,400
1/2 points, I know USC can be
good, but 10 1/2 too much delay
1753
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:24,760
them coming back east.
You know why y'all go ahead
1754
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:26,840
about it?
I wonder what the weather's up
1755
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,920
there going to be on Saturday.
So who you got next, Sheldon?
1756
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:33,400
Sheldon.
What you got?
1757
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,480
Minnesota continuing with my
pissed off last week, they did.
1758
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:37,920
They did get screwed against
Michigan.
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01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,880
They've lost two straight.
I think they're going to bounce
1760
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,040
back, at least to the extent
that they will cover.
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01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:48,040
Tally, What do you say, man?
All right, give me USC, man.
1762
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:53,360
I'm going to take USC in this
one just because I knew y'all
1763
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,360
was picking Minnesota and I want
to be difficult.
1764
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,280
It's kind of.
I got to score some points
1765
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,040
somewhere.
Yeah, it's kind of like a fourth
1766
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,280
and three man.
I mean, I'm the little brother.
1767
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,400
I'm on, I'm on.
I ain't going to line up and
1768
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,600
run.
I'm on do a fake field goal.
1769
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:16,600
So USCUSCUSC random.
And obviously, our music man
1770
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,640
Jason Long, is also riding.
With the Gophers.
1771
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,520
Now before I go into this I am
wondering how USC is going to
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01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:27,000
handle the weather.
They are playing this game at
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01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:31,920
night and it's going to be like
4850�� with a little 15 mile an
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01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,720
hour breeze.
Southern California boys in the
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01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:39,840
Midwest on a October night.
It could be interesting.
1776
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:42,880
I mean, that's it would be like
they don't, they don't see 50 in
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01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:47,040
December out there.
So there you go, There you go.
1778
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,040
There's all.
The rundown Who did good?
1779
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:52,400
Who did bad?
Who you riding with on this
1780
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,520
weekend?
I like, I like my picks.
1781
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,800
You know, Missouri's the only
one that I'm really kind of, I
1782
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,800
could have went either way.
On everything else I feel pretty
1783
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:07,000
good about.
The only one I like question is
1784
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,480
I'm tempted.
I was tempted to go Miami with
1785
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:15,400
the pissed off mindset of they
barely escaped, let's go prove a
1786
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,000
point.
That's the only one I'm kind of
1787
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:19,200
question.
The other ones I feel good
1788
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:23,920
about.
All right, gentlemen, anything
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01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,720
else popping up to the last
hour?
1790
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,480
And hey, look at that, an hour
and 30 minutes.
1791
01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:30,160
We ain't done that in a.
Few weeks.
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01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,040
Hey, you know what?
We, we, we got it tight, now we
1793
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:36,520
got it tight.
Got it tight.
1794
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,240
We, we all of our, all of our
outbursts are gone.
1795
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,920
We're we're in full mid season
mode now.
1796
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,320
Like we're out, we're out of
the, we're out of the funk.
1797
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,600
We actually had a game where we
didn't have to talk about what
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01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:51,840
went bad for 30 minutes.
No, we did.
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01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,960
Oh, jinx it. touch��, Oh, jinx
it.
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All righty.
Well, that is going to wrap up
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this episode of the Boundary
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The.
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Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary
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Corner podcast along with my
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Jonathan Tally and Shelton Moss.
I am Curtis Wilson.
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We are a part of the College
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And this episode is brought to
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And Brian will let you say a
little something here.
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Yeah, I'm going to kick it off
tonight.
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Just sending thoughts out there
to our our friends in western
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North Carolina that are dealing
with the disaster of Hurricane
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Alene.
Some of you may know, some of
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you may not.
That area of the state has a
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special meaning for me.
It's a place where me and my
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family go just about every
summer.
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Lake Lower Chimney Rock area
there in Rutherford County,
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about 30 minutes, 30 miles kind
of east of of Asheville there.
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Just wanted to to send my
thoughts out there.
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And for the folks out there
listing, we've got some links
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down below on the crawl there. 1
is for the United Way, United
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Way of Rutherford County and the
other is for feeding the
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Carolinas.
Please, if you have any ability
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to do so, think of of donating
and and helping those folks out
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right now.
You know there there's some of
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these towns very much A1 road in
one Rd. out.
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It's hard to get to them, the
elevation and everything.
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So please try to get as many
resources to them as you can and
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definitely any anything you can
can do at this point would be a
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big help.
Yep, very well said, Brian.
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The links are also pinned to our
Twitter account as well for the
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United Way of Rutherford County.
Obviously we we understand
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between western Carolina,
eastern Tennessee and the
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western part of the state of
Virginia, along with South
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Carolina, Georgia and Florida,
all pretty hard because of this
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storm.
It's closest to us.
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If y'all don't know him, a good
friend of ours, JJ Singleton.
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Down in the Asheville area.
Yeah, down there in Canton.
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Down in Canton, J JS OK, we've
heard from him over the last few
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days.
I know some folks that me and
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Brian grew up with live out
there.
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Now I work with the guy who who
who who is a hybrid guy.
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He lives out there.
So it's it's affected a lot of
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people, obviously.
And obviously I think we all
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know it's the part of the area
that's a lot of Hokie fans too.
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So it's it's not only just, you
know, it's Hokie fans, but just
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in general, the stuff that's
going on, you know, you know,
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however you or whatever you may
do, if you can donate, great.
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If you can at least keep the
good vibes, the prayers,
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however, you may do so for them.
Yeah.
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And it's, it's just incredible
seeing, you know, something that
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you, you know, you spend a lot
of time down there.
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You, you, you've been there so
many times and seeing what that
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place looks like now and the
destruction that that happened.
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And, you know, the folks that
are that are still reeling down
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there, it's, it's just, it's,
it's been sad, man.
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And it's, you know, looking,
looking at the destruction.
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It's been just kind of kind of
surreal.
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I mean, I tell anybody that
asked me, yeah, I've, I've had a
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beer.
I've, I've went up and ordered a
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beer at a lot of places in this,
in this world, right.
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Best place I've ever ordered a
beer and sat down and drank it.
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Chimney Rock Brewing, it's it's
right there on the river.
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You got a perfect view of the of
the river up there to the, the,
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the State Park.
It's gorgeous and it and that
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place does not exist anymore and
it's just it's it's really,
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really sad and again, praying
for all the folks down there and
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and and hoping that you know,
they get some relief here for
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sure I'll.
Do a good thing.
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I'm on you.
I've got a daughter that is not
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being the best right now, so if
my camera goes off everyone out
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there in Twitter land and
watching us streaming, it's
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because she's done something and
I've had a lead.
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So let's hope that doesn't
happen, but.
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Hey guys, look who was first in
line here.
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Yeah, he was waiting.
He was waiting.
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New King was waiting.
New King needed a lot of help to
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beat A2 and two team last week.
I mean, as new, always new.
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King has been faithful on the
show.
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We appreciate you.
But I will say, y'all got a
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little help, y'all got the win,
we'll give it to you.
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We can't change it.
But you got a little help.
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You got a little help.
So, well, let's just tell the
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truth.
This tell the truth Tuesday.
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Y'all know the way we normally
do it.
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I mixed it up this week like we
did last week.
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But yes or no, yes or no?
First, did the ACC make a
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business decision when they
overturned Kwan's touchdown
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Friday night?
Yes or no, Brian?
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Of course they did.
Oh, go ahead.
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Sheldon, are you good?
No, no, no.
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Yes or no?
Just yes or no to start with.
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Just yes or no?
I'd say no.
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Oh.
OK, we got a dissenter here, so
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we are going to start with Tally
because I feel like Tally's
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ready to unload and then I'm
gonna go to Sheldon and let
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Brian and he clean it up.
Go ahead, Tally.
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My thing is you can't as much
football as you watch.
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If it's a catch, if you call it
a catch, what is the, how do you
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overturn it?
You know what I'm saying?
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There is no indisputable
evidence that you overturn that
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call.
I mean, we've seen it.
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I've seen it time and time.
I ain't going to speak for
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nobody else that if something is
called on the field, if that's
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the call on the field, you have
to have the indisputable
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evidence.
And I, I don't feel like they
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had indisputable evidence.
I feel like Miami is the hot
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team, Miami's five and O Cam
Ward, Cam Ward, no matter what
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he done wrong, he's still, he's
a Heisman finalist.
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You know, that's all we heard
the whole game and we heard
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about their team, which is which
is OK.
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I don't.
I mean, a lot of the stuff that
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they've done, they they've
earned that.
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So I'm not taking anything away
from Miami.
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Very talented team.
Cam Ward's a very talented
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player.
So again, I feel like now, you
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know, look at look at game day
that they're in, they're in Cal
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to watch Miami and Cal.
So yeah, that made a business
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decision.
It's just my opinion.
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Sheldon, you say no, which I
think you were going to be in
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the minority here tonight, not
only with US 4, but probably
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everybody out on the comment
section.
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Why do you say no?
Stephanie King.
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Well.
It was with the.
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With the context that we saw Al
Riveron in the, the replay
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control room when they were when
they were looking over that
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replay.
Revron is a Miami native.
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I am assume he's partial to
Miami.
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I'm not saying it's conspiracy,
but I think, I think he probably
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leaned one particular way and
I'm sure he probably convinced
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some people in that room to, to
lean that way as well.
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So I don't think it was like a,
hey, we need Miami for the
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playoffs type of thing.
But I, I do think it's probably,
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you know, if you, if you, if you
have a bias, your, your eyes are
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gonna make you look towards that
bias.
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So I think they just, they
probably just looked at it that
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way of like, hey, you know,
we're, we're Miami here and we
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got a, we got a, you know, we're
going to see it through the lens
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of the, the, the, the canes.
So that's kind of the way I look
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at it.
I mean, this is the same crew
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that was on the Duke 15 lateral
15 lateral touchdown, 4 penalty
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that weren't thrown situation.
You know, I mean, when I look at
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it and I'll explain my mindset
here of what I see and folks can
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be a disagree with that if they
want to.
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But what I saw Felton go up,
Felton come down, Felton fall.
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At that point, his momentum
stopped.
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Then you see a Miami player
punch the ball.
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It doesn't matter what happened
after that after he was down.
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It shouldn't.
None of that should have
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mattered.
You can't make an additional
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move against the player once
once they're already on the
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ground that that.
That's how I saw it.
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That's how I felt about it.
I think it was Bang Bang.
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So I can see where others would
have a different opinion of
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that.
But given that information, you
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stick with the call in the
field.
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Yeah, and not and not and not
only that.
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I mean, we keep talking about
the catch.
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I'm sure we may talk about it a
little later, but it was a lot
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of stuff that went on just in
the last drive that I was like,
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hold on for a minute.
Like horse collar, like people
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and and and, you know, the
coaches have some stuff they
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have to work on.
I'm not taking again, I'm not
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employed by the school.
We talked about that too.
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Yeah, Brett probably knows the
stuff that he needs to work on,
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but there's a horse collar.
No, no call.
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Another one that threw me for a
loop was when Quan is going
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forward and again, I'm not on
the field, Maybe the whistle
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blows, but it looks like he
never goes down and goes out of
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bounds, gets through out of
bounds and they run the clock.
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You know, they continue running
the clock and everybody says,
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well, they should have done
this.
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I'm like how do you, how do you
continue running the clock if he
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goes out of bounds?
But it could have been a could
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have been a whistle that of
course I'm not there and didn't
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see.
But it was a lot of stuff that
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went on.
I thought it was a pass
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interference when he threw the
ball in the end zone to Aidan
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Green.
But it was a pass.
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It is what he had his arm and he
shoved him out of bounds before
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he had a chance to go after the
ball.
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There were 4 plays on that last
drive, not counting that.
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So Quan was first.
If Quan had been going backward,
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yes, you have to run the clock,
right?
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You have to run the clock.
Absolutely.
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He stopped his forward.
He went out sideways to my
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knowledge, and as long as I
watch football that is out of
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bounds, that is this, not this.
He tries to make a move and gets
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pulled back.
We're going to talk about that
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later.
Yeah.
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That should have been out of
bounds.
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So that's probably 15 seconds
right there.
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The other was the horse collar.
It was, it was clear you saw him
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do this or he didn't make the
tackle.
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It doesn't matter if they make
the tackle.
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You pull the horse collar.
Whether the tackle is made or
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not.
That is a 15 yard penalty That
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would have stopped the clock.
That would have got us I think
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to the 40 of them because it was
on the side of midfield.
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The other part about that prize
out there screaming, that's a
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horse collar.
You can, if you look he's doing
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this, he's running back to the
sideline and he has to go to the
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other ref and say I call the
time out eight or nine seconds
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additional off the clock right
there.
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So we've already, we've already
got 2324 seconds additional that
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they took away from us.
Aiden Green 100% Alice pass
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interference.
And I don't care if it's a 1
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yard line spot or if it's
fifteen additional yards.
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You start doing the math.
The last place should have
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probably been at about the 8
yard line, not to 40 or to 31,
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whatever it was.
I'll have to go back and look.
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It shouldn't have been a deep
pass.
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It would have been something
even harder to defend for them.
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And that the ACC did make a
business decision.
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They did.
There's there's no question
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because if it was clearing in
indisputable evidence, it
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wouldn't have taken 5 minutes.
It would not have taken 5
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minutes to say that.
They kept saying like, oh, this
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is going to go and it's like you
want to fix the the replay
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rules, 45 seconds find something
wrong with it.
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What if we can't find nothing
wrong with?
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It.
It stands.
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It stands because if it's that
indisputable, it's not.
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He's this man trying to say we
wrong.
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I got two guys who played
collegiate football here, King.
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All right, You ain't even going
to.
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Yeah, it don't matter about
who's wrong or right.
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Like you could look at football
and understand.
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I don't care if he acted like he
won $1,000,000.
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Like that's not that doesn't
constitute a call.
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When he went up to get the ball,
either he has it or he doesn't.
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You know, if he if he comes down
with it, he does.
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If he doesn't, the the, you
know, the refs make the call.
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They made a call that said it
was a touchdown.
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So the only people in the
country that I've heard this is
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what I've heard from Miami fans.
New King, maybe you can help me.
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You sound like them anyway.
My everybody hates Miami.
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The refs hate Miami.
And the only reason that Miami's
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winning is just because they're
so good.
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And it wasn't like they they
helped us keep the game close.
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That's a lie like that is that's
not what happened in that game.
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Like the refs, The, the, the,
every year Miami gets, they get
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the benefit of the doubt that
they're back.
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I don't think that no media or
no refs hate Miami.
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So I'm tired of Miami fans
trying to say that.
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Because if Miami have any kind
of production coming back or any
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kind of production where they
look like they're good, they're
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getting ranked.
They're getting ranked early in
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the season.
So that's nothing wrong with
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that.
You have a program that when
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it's good, it's good for
football.
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So Miami fans have in their
heads that everybody's against
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them.
Everybody hates to you, man.
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That's that's a crock of shit.
So that's just my opinion.
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You know, when we talk about the
way the the officiating was
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going, it wasn't just on that
last drive, all that.
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That was a big part of it.
Let's talk about the the PJ
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touchdown, the holding call.
That was just a good pancake.
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Yeah, New King said.
They helped y'all out a lot.
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Yeah, he said.
They helped y'all out a lot.
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They took away a touchdown on
the BSP.
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Yeah, we've seen it too.
That was a hold.
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They had them on the outside of
the shoulder pass.
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Do you think that was a hold?
That was not.
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But The thing is, it's like it
happened.
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It's not like they gave us plays
and then they just helped us get
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to where we were.
The same thing.
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We had the same if it was a hold
or it wasn't a hold and they
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called a touch, took a touchdown
off the board.
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They did the same thing to us.
So it came down to, again, with
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the question that you asked,
they made a business decision,
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Sheldon said the the Miami dude
is in there with his orange
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shirt on making the call when
there's only two or three people
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in there that keep going to this
damn a war room or whatever they
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call it.
And, and why, how how do you
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even have a tie to that game to
be able to make those calls?
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I don't understand.
So well, he is the official head
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of officiating for the ACC.
That's how you need to get the
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fuck on.
Yeah, he need to get on in a
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game like that.
I mean, you know, this is a
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recusal situation, right?
Like if, if you're a judge with,
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with some sort of ties to A to,
to a situation, you got to
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recuse yourself.
I feel like that should be
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something that we will not talk
about there as well.
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But I mean, you know, I know
we're going to talk about it,
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but it didn't need to
necessarily come down to a Hail
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Mary.
And some of that was
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self-inflicted and some of that
was poor officiating.
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And I think both both of those
things kind of led to where we
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ended up at the end of that
game.
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Absolutely.
All right, So we got to do some
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on just that part of it.
We got to close the book, OK,
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because every statements been
made, 98% of the country agrees
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with us.
It should have been held.
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Miami should have a loss.
We should have a win.
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Can't do anything about it,
can't go back, but it is what it
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is.
But what I want to ask y'all
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next and then yes or no, and
then I'll let y'all explain
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Friday night.
Was that the team you expected
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from the jump this year,
Shelton, Yes or no?
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Yeah, I I thought they put
their, their, their hearts out
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Tally.
Yeah, definitely, Brian.
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Yeah, that was the team I
expected from Jump Street.
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It looked like the team I
expect, like win or lose in that
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game from from the start to
finish.
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It looked like the team I
expected to for us to have most
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of the year.
You're on mute again, Curtis.
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That's going to be a recurring
theme tonight is I'm going to
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have to do that.
All right, So Brian, you kind of
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went into it over there.
What did you feel different on
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Friday night?
I'm going to go back around
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Sheldon, get you, get your data
points ready.
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I know you've got stuff up, but
what did you just see different?
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What was the feel?
Why did this team look like the
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team we expected them to be?
Complimentary football, I mean,
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I think, I think it's that
simple.
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Complimentary football.
When the defense made a play, we
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went out there and made a play
on offense.
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Most of the time when the
offense made a play, the defense
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would turn it around and, and,
and do something pretty well and
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get the ball back to the
offense.
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I thought it was a very
consistent performance really on
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both sides of the ball, with
only a couple caveats to that, I
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think.
Yeah, for the most part, special
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teams was OK outside of two
number seventeens on the field
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and a very questionable coaching
call.
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Hey, if you speeding, if you
speeding and the police don't
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catch you, what you speeding?
It ain't illegal.
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That's what I'm saying.
Happened all the time.
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They didn't catch it.
Go ahead.
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I'm sorry but.
Yeah, I, I think performance
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wise, I think the, the, the
special teams was improved this
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week.
I think there were still a
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couple decisions from the staff
that could fall under question
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on that side of the things,
right?
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What about you, Tally?
What did they do different?
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I know you had a game, you came
in late, but I know you watch
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them.
Yeah, man, I had a yeah.
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They had my son dressed out with
varsity this past weekend or
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this week.
So Friday we were out in the
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rain in the game.
They at least won.
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He got in his first varsity
snaps, he was scared.
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He didn't have to do nothing
behind the ball off, but you got
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like the third team and then
they fumble a snap and other
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team picked it up and start
running back and he was trying
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to make a tackle but also not
get ran over.
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So yeah, welcome to big boy
football for him.
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But I watched it man, probably
about I mean, I watched some
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highlights kind of that night
and watched some videos people
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were posting.
But then I watched the entire
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game at like 2O clock in the
morning, Saturday, Saturday,
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Sunday morning, when they
finally got a whole game
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uploaded, I went back and I went
back and watched the entire
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thing, which was I shouldn't
have.
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I sacrificed some much needed
sleep.
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But Karen looked more like
Karen, like he accepted what the
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stage was and to see him step up
in the pocket and make that
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throw, you know what he throws
off one leg and, and, and puts
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the ball, you know, on the rope.
Like it was good to see him do
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that.
But also, man, it was just not
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to get too technical.
Like when when they when we got
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punched, they punched back
because a lot of games early,
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even games we won are seeing
somebody punching.
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It was just kind of like we kind
of walked to the sideline or we
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kind of, you know, did some
different things.
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And I'm like, come on, man.
Like I like to see a team.
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Like getting getting that bad,
somebody's talking, talking
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back.
It's OK, you know what I'm
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saying?
Like you either going to win or
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you going to lose.
I don't like that.
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We're going to be classy and no,
forget that.
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Like if people out there
talking, you got to talk back.
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So I seen us doing that, you
know, and again, Miami has a
373
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,920
good team and Miami wasn't doing
anything like overly bad, you
374
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,640
know, but when you're playing
football, that's a game where
375
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,000
you get to hit each other every
play.
376
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,720
So they was hitting and we hit
back.
377
00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,600
So I was good.
I was glad to see that because
378
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,640
in some of the other games I
didn't see that.
379
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,400
You know, I've seen people
leaning on us for quarters
380
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,920
before we decided to punch back
this this game.
381
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,680
I feel like from the start it
was like, Nah, we, we are trying
382
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,160
to win, you know, we hit a we
hit a play football.
383
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,280
So that was good to see.
Sheldon, what about you, man?
384
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,200
What popped out?
And I know you watched the game
385
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,480
Friday night.
I'm sure you reluctantly looked
386
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:58,520
at some analytics.
What?
387
00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,600
What was what was different to
you Friday night?
388
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,320
Well, I think there was a little
bit more variety in the run
389
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,760
game.
You know, they averaged about 7
390
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,720
yards per rush as a team, which
was great, especially against
391
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,280
that D line.
You know, we saw more of those
392
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,520
those toss plays to to Bayshaw
Tooten where, you know, Jones
393
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,960
kind of pitch outside or or fake
the pitch and then go inside
394
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,440
between the guards.
You know, I feel like that was
395
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,560
kind of our bread and butter
last year for some reason.
396
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,440
We didn't really see it a ton
the first four games.
397
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,280
I don't know if Bowen was trying
to save a little bit more for a
398
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,560
conference play, but it was good
to see that play kind of get
399
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,720
back on the mix.
You know, rolling drones out a
400
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,120
little bit more, getting them to
run as a quarterback, which
401
00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:37,080
obviously is the best strength.
Tune broke 9 tackles.
402
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,760
He's up to 5th in the country
and most missed tackles forced
403
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,560
with 33.
So he's, you know, keep keeps
404
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,160
chugging along there.
And then I also thought I
405
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,880
thought the perimeter blocking
was improved.
406
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,000
You know, obviously we this
offense that wants to get the
407
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,880
ball out quickly, you know,
short, quick throws to the sides
408
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,640
in the flats and, you know, let
your playmakers make plays in
409
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,680
space.
In order to do that, you got to
410
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,920
have a good perimeter blocking.
I thought, you know, Quan fell
411
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,280
and did a good job there.
He had a couple key blocks that
412
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,760
spurred a big catch by Jay Lane.
And then we saw some
413
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,080
trickeration on that reverse to
Lane that went for, you know, 20
414
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,880
some yards for a touchdown.
So I just thought there was a
415
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,360
bit more variety, you know, Bob
Shipp coming in for for late
416
00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:18,800
gamut left guard, you know, he's
been an improvement there.
417
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,800
And then, you know, in terms of
the the defensive special teams,
418
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,680
obviously, you know, those two
units did a really good job
419
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,920
helping the offense.
Average starting field position
420
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,840
for Tech in this game was a 49
yard line.
421
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,360
You know, you might, you might
play this game 10 times over and
422
00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:34,080
not say that once because they
got 3 turnovers and all of them
423
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,280
were in plus territory for Vt.
So, you know, it's kind of a
424
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,320
kind of the traditional, you
know, 3 complimentary approach
425
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,520
to football offense, even
special teams kind of helping
426
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,920
out each other.
I thought they did.
427
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:45,680
They did a really good job
there.
428
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,600
And it's probably one of the
more complete performances
429
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,800
concerning the quality of the
opponent.
430
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,280
Yeah, quality opponent and
everything and it was kind of,
431
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,960
y'all all kind of hit it right.
It was complimentary ball and
432
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,560
then they stood up and just
started punching where there had
433
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,560
been times this year, especially
in the first half, we got beat
434
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,160
down.
Right, we look shell shocked.
435
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,240
When we did something, something
funky would happen and we would
436
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,040
just look, Oh no, this isn't
good.
437
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,840
And I know we came right out the
gate forced to fumble, scored
438
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,760
the touchdown, but they
answered.
439
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,240
We didn't quibble up, We didn't
quibble up after that.
440
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:23,320
And hopefully we are over that
block because that was the
441
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,800
biggest thing I saw Friday
night.
442
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,960
And I think it's going to go
allude to what Tally said.
443
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,640
They came over a roadblock.
They finally said this is how we
444
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,000
can play.
We can punch back, we can
445
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,960
attack, we can keep going.
And then to both of y'all's
446
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,720
points, we did look different.
We look different on offense.
447
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,600
Especially when I look over here
and I see how many guys got
448
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,320
multiple receptions.
Gosnell, Jay Lane, other
449
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,640
Gosnell, Aiden Green.
They flipped the ball out to
450
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,240
Tooting to keep people honest in
the flat.
451
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,960
A few.
He didn't get any yard, but you
452
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,920
know what that does to Sheldon's
point, some of those little
453
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,200
short quick passes, if you send
Tune to one side of safeties
454
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,120
going to linebackers going, thus
you go opposite field, it's
455
00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:07,600
going to open up.
So in reality, why was this the
456
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,720
team we expected?
Because we knew we had these
457
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,520
players.
We knew we could get into that
458
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,560
mentality and go play with
anybody in the country.
459
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:18,200
So that's where we all stand on
that now.
460
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,000
Anybody, Sheldon, and we'll
start with Sheldon on this one.
461
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,680
Hey, let me let me put it.
I want to.
462
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,200
You'll put a ball on it.
Yeah.
463
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,120
I want you to put some up.
What now?
464
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:29,800
I want you to put what?
New King said all this said,
465
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,000
well, they did everything bad,
Did they?
466
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,120
Yeah.
Yeah.
467
00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:33,880
Put that.
Put that up.
468
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,680
No, I just want.
I just want you to put that up.
469
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,640
I want to say something to that.
OK.
470
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:38,800
So they said we did everything
bad.
471
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,640
That was the worst game we
played all season.
472
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,720
Definitely a wake up call.
How is it the worst game you
473
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,760
play all season just because you
had a team that punched back?
474
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,080
Let's see here.
OK.
475
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,520
Miami's.
Miami's schedule before they
476
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,040
played us, Florida garbage.
Horrible.
477
00:24:54,200 --> 00:25:00,640
We don't see any pitiful Florida
A&M, Ball State, South Florida
478
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,920
like, of course it's the worst
game you play because you had a
479
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,680
team that had a pulse.
You know what I'm saying?
480
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,920
I ain't saying like we are so
great, but like Miami, y'all
481
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,200
don't have a little bit of a
road ahead of you, You know what
482
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,960
I'm saying?
Like you don't get in the ACC
483
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,200
play and you, you are the number
seven or eight team in the
484
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,440
country.
You're going to have people just
485
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,760
going to have a target on you.
They're going to try to punch
486
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,000
back.
Like don't get in here and act
487
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,120
like y'all are the greatest team
in the country.
488
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:29,200
Like y'all ain't on Bama's level
and, and even Georgia's level
489
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,520
yet, you know what I'm saying?
Y'all got a ways to go.
490
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,400
But you had players that made
plays, you know, your
491
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,600
quarterback threw for almost 400
yards.
492
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,000
You had a tight end hustling
from one end of the field to the
493
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,200
other to make a tackle to stop a
touchdown.
494
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,520
Like come on man, don't come in.
If we going to do anything, we
495
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:46,920
just at least going to tell the
truth.
496
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,000
We're going to tell the truth on
a Wednesday, don't we?
497
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,800
Don't fill y'all's heads with we
did everything wrong and we
498
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,000
still overcame.
No, you got help by the refs and
499
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,200
you won the game.
Now you got to go beat Kyle.
500
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,960
Let's see what y'all going to do
when you go out there.
501
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,040
I just want to go ahead.
New king, you steal.
502
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,920
My God.
Oh, we won't go to the next
503
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,920
time.
Curtis, what you got?
504
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,760
Well, I was saying I was
pitching the Sheldon here up to
505
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,000
this point, who's the player
you've been down on or saying,
506
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,000
why isn't this guy playing?
Like I know he can play, but
507
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,920
Friday night it it it reversed
the script for you.
508
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,720
I might need a second to chew on
that.
509
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,480
All right, go definitely all.
Right.
510
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,480
Pitch it over to Brian then.
Yeah, let's go, Brian.
511
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,400
I mean, low hanging fruit is
Chiron, but I'm going to
512
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:36,600
actually say Daquan Felton.
I saw some life from him.
513
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,200
The whole game he was engaged in
blocking.
514
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,320
He looked like a like he was a
little bit more focused than he
515
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,200
had been the last couple weeks.
I was really impressed with with
516
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,480
how he played overall got got
him involved in the game plan a
517
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:53,960
little bit.
So I like that.
518
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,200
And then obviously, you know, we
know what happened with the with
519
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,320
the Hail Mary at the end there.
So I was excited to see him get
520
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,040
back a little bit in the game
plan.
521
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,800
So I I think he kind of
surprised me a little bit.
522
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,560
About you Tally, you got to
watch that late so you saw all
523
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,080
the data.
You kind of knew what was going
524
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,120
to happen.
Who who who stood out to you.
525
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Did I drop it?
It's not that anybody kind of
526
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:21,320
surprised me on stepping up.
It was more of the coaches
527
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,440
letting people play.
You know what I'm saying?
528
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,880
Like to see Woodson get in the
game to see, you know, Caleb
529
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,760
Spencer get more burn to see PJ
Prelude get in.
530
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,320
You know what I'm saying?
So I can't say I was expecting
531
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,000
more out of them because they
haven't been put in a position
532
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,720
to play.
So it looks like like we Got
533
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,680
Talent on the sidelines, man.
I'm just waiting for the coaches
534
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,880
to put them in and and let them
do their thing.
535
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:48,400
Malachi, I like you, man.
You, you got to go third string,
536
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,080
brother.
I mean, you can't be that big
537
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,480
and not get no yards.
We need, we need, you know, 2
538
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,080
yards of carry, 3 yards of carry
something, give me something.
539
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,400
Prelude look like he is a change
of pace guy.
540
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,840
Yeah, I agree with you on the
change of pace.
541
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,960
I think that's that's big
because when you get somebody
542
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,120
that can great tackles the way
Tootin can and can kind of do a
543
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:13,160
little bit of everything, you
get somebody that's one cut and
544
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,280
go like Prelude, that creates
some problems for the defense
545
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,880
because he gets up feels so
quick.
546
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:25,120
All right, Sheldon, back to you.
I'll go Wilfred Pernet.
547
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,680
I think he's been surprisingly
solid, you know, graded out
548
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,520
pretty decently against Miami
and also had four QB pressures,
549
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,160
which was a big stat.
So I think I think Tech did a,
550
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,960
you know, OK job getting to
getting to Ken Ward.
551
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,240
So I'll go open a kind of under
the radar guy, you know, not
552
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,280
something you had a ton of
expectations for, but I, I was
553
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,120
surprisingly impressed with him.
All right, I'm going to go with
554
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,440
one, and it might be a little
obvious because of what he did
555
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,240
down at the goal line.
Moose Phillips.
556
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,760
Moose Phillips the third.
I think it's the maturation with
557
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,680
safeties that he will.
His tackles were cleaner this
558
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,360
week.
His coverages were cleaner.
559
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,080
Did he miss a few fits?
Yeah, but they they weren't as
560
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,600
bad as they were three games
ago.
561
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,880
And remember, he's a sophomore,
my kids a sophomore, and he's
562
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,560
out there in that pic.
He absolutely baited potential
563
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,080
Heisman winner Cam Ward into it
because he showed off like he
564
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,920
was going to play the flat.
And as soon he saw Cam hit that
565
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,920
third back foot, you saw him
undercut that wheel and he was
566
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,760
gone.
And it's the maturation of that
567
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,720
kid.
It's like he's had some games
568
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,000
where it's like you see him with
tackles and it's like, Oh my
569
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,360
God, What we are.
I know why we got to start and I
570
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,440
know he's Got Talent.
I know he likes to lay lumber,
571
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,800
but when you see a game of that
caliber, he's the guys he were
572
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,320
tackling.
If you missed those tackles,
573
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520
they're gone.
He wasn't missing them.
574
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,920
And Shelton, I stole something
from PFS 81 tackle grade for
575
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,840
him.
That means he didn't miss much.
576
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,880
That means he was solid.
So love hearing that.
577
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,840
All righty.
OK.
578
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,960
You know, we usually do the bad
segment, but we got to bring it
579
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,160
up.
And I know, Brian, you said they
580
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,080
played a little bit better.
Can special teams just stop
581
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:13,840
making law errors in every
single way please?
582
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,840
I'll I'll take the what, 58 yard
field goals though?
583
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,000
Yeah, that's John Love, though.
Well.
584
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,360
Hey, hey.
They developed him, so got to
585
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,480
give him credit there.
I mean, I know we hate him.
586
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,120
I know he loves to hate on Stu
Hall, but you got to get credit
587
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,120
where it's due.
Love is love is love is
588
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,600
automatic too, man.
Like he's what is he like?
589
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,240
He's been like like 19 for 20 or
something like that.
590
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,160
Yeah, the one that 89 block 80.
Nine percent, 89% since the
591
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,720
starter last year.
One of the best kickers in the
592
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,160
country statistically, and he
has not missed an extra point.
593
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,520
Yeah, yeah, he's tough.
It's just good to have.
594
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,480
Yeah, it's good to have that in
your pocket to like, we got the
595
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,480
confidence to roll him out there
and be like, hey, man, we need
596
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,440
you to go hit this.
And most of the time, that's
597
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,280
what he's going to do.
You know what I'm saying?
598
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,560
My son was watching the game.
He had cotillion Friday night.
599
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,760
He got back late.
So he he children watched the
600
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,280
game with me.
And when he kicked that 58 yard,
601
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,680
he was like, Dad, that's like a
Justin Tucker kick because it
602
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,800
was like a Justin Tucker.
Yeah, I think it was halfway up
603
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,920
the pole.
But the other piece, why I keep
604
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:20,880
going back to saying it's the
small things, the end of the
605
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,960
first half pooch in that.
I know the kid back there.
606
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,040
They mentioned it like 19 times.
He's at all world speed.
607
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,160
How low usually puts it through
the end zone.
608
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,080
We're and I don't know if that's
pride or if that's Stew.
609
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,440
It's like put it through the end
zone, give them no shot.
610
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,120
It's just it's little things.
Yeah, Little.
611
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,440
Thing it started with with the
with the time out before the
612
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,400
field goal, yeah.
So if you run some more clock
613
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,720
before the field goal.
Weigh down.
614
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,760
Then you don't have to pooch it.
You don't even think about
615
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,320
pooping it right because it's
down far enough where you're
616
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,840
not, you're not concerned as
long as you boot it deep.
617
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,480
It is what it is.
I think they saw 25 seconds.
618
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,200
I think they saw if we can run a
little bit more clock on this
619
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,680
kick off, it might help us get
out out of the half.
620
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,280
I think they overthought it.
And next thing you know, you got
621
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,400
another three on the board.
And as we see that, you know,
622
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,120
those, those threes add up.
And we're going to talk about
623
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,480
another one here in just a
second.
624
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,480
Yeah, we are.
Because I like the one thing
625
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,360
about coach Pryor, whether we
when we've interviewed him or
626
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,600
you see him at the podium, he's
usually self critical.
627
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,680
If he makes errors in the game,
he calls himself out.
628
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,760
And he said it after the game.
He said I've got to be better at
629
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,000
game management and he had more
than a couple on Friday night of
630
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,120
game management issues.
What can he do?
631
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,400
Like what's the solution there?
I mean, we got helmet.
632
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,760
I I love what somebody said.
I can't remember if it was on
633
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,320
Twitter and a chat or something.
We've got helmet communications
634
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,400
and we still got five guys
giving signals like wait a
635
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,640
second, this is 2024.
Somebody said take one of those
636
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,480
guys, just put them next to pry
and be like, what are you
637
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,080
supposed to do?
No timeouts and tell him when to
638
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,760
call timeouts.
But what's this?
639
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:21,320
What do y'all have y'all both
played stop, stop talking about
640
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,680
it.
Stop talking about need to be
641
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,960
better at this.
We need to do this better.
642
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,040
You know how to do it.
You got to do it stop.
643
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,640
I mean to me it don't seem like
it's a it don't seem like it's a
644
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,520
huge thing to to fix.
You know what I'm saying?
645
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,040
Like the mistakes keep being the
same mistakes and at some point
646
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:44,760
you got to you got to fix the
mistake.
647
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,520
You know what I'm saying?
Like Sheldon, I know you ain't
648
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,280
married yet, but that's three
are married.
649
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,800
Your wife is not going to allow
you to make the same mistake 3
650
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,840
or 4 days in a row.
Oh baby, I forgot to take trash
651
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,480
out.
Oh baby, I forgot to watch them
652
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,280
dish.
Oh baby, I forgot to clean the
653
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,160
car.
Oh baby, I, I, I don't do it,
654
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,280
but you going to be done.
You going to be out of there
655
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,800
sooner or later.
You can't keep making the same
656
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,760
mistake and then it don't matter
if you make it sound good.
657
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,639
Hey baby, no, I forgot to no, I
forgot to take that trash out,
658
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:17,520
but I bought you some McDonald's
home here you go I got you this
659
00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:22,120
I got you this fish filet baby
here you go it don't help the
660
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,719
trash still didn't get taken out
like come on man you got to fix
661
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,120
the mistakes and quit talking
about fixing the mistakes Stu
662
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,199
hey man, you got to quit making
mistakes on special teams If I'm
663
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,520
proud somebody getting thrown
under the bus hey man, you got
664
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,920
to go.
That's what I'm saying.
665
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,520
I mean, if hey, if it's me or
you, it's got to be you.
666
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,159
I got to put somebody on the
chopping block because sooner or
667
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,600
later at the every game they
keep showing it.
668
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,440
Brett Pryor is blank and blank.
He's won this many games.
669
00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:58,520
He's lost this many games.
If this number keeps going up
670
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,120
and this number keeps staying
the same, you, you ain't going
671
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,480
to have a job.
You got to do something that's
672
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,200
just it's wins and losses, like
kissing babies is cool and
673
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,960
shaking our hands and, you know,
doing cool videos, it's cool.
674
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,880
But it comes down to wins and
losses.
675
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,080
Like you got to get some of
those wins.
676
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,760
You got to steal some of those
games.
677
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,920
And you cannot continue to talk
about we should have won that,
678
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,240
you know what I'm saying?
You have to be on the other side
679
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,720
of some of those wins and go, we
did win that.
680
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,800
That's a big game.
You know, that Miami game was a
681
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,680
huge game.
Brett Price still doesn't have a
682
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,040
signature win.
He's been here three years.
683
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,960
When does he get it?
That's all I'm saying.
684
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,280
He had the opportunity.
He was right there.
685
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,840
He was right there.
Yeah, I don't, I, I, I hate to
686
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,440
be pessimistic, but I just, I
don't see what the solution is.
687
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,800
Like I, I, I think I tweeted
this on Friday, but like there's
688
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,960
a certain you have to have like
this, this internal clock in
689
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,920
your head when it comes to game
management, kind of like the
690
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,440
quarterback who, you know, can,
it can process things really
691
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,080
quickly.
It's a really hard skill to
692
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,160
teach.
I just, I think prize, you know,
693
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,720
he's been a long time assistant.
I just don't think he has that
694
00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:08,120
internal clock when it comes to
game, when it comes to time
695
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,280
management.
And, you know, and I know some
696
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,560
people said, like, Hey, we
should hire an assistant to, you
697
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,760
know, kind of baby him.
Like, I don't know if there's
698
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,400
any other school in the country
that does that like to, to have
699
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,440
like a special assistant for
clock management on the field.
700
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,960
I feel like that would just add
to the, you know, chaos that's
701
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,120
going on.
Because again, you got to think
702
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,560
about from his perspective, you
know, he's thinking about what's
703
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,760
what's our play call?
You know, he's got to think
704
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,280
about like, you know, so many
different aspects of the game.
705
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:34,400
It's hard to balance when you're
actually on the sideline doing
706
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,320
it in real time.
You know, obviously we criticize
707
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,280
them as fans, but you know,
we're kind of looking at like
708
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:39,400
the clock management
perspective.
709
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,120
You know, we're not thinking
about all the things he's
710
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,240
thinking about.
So I just, I don't know, it's
711
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,760
just it's a skill you either
have, you have it or don't.
712
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,280
And we're 29 games in.
I just don't know if we're going
713
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,680
to get.
It yeah.
714
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,240
And I think the the the problem
comes more in those like crunch
715
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:56,880
time situations, right?
So, you know, when you look at
716
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,360
something, when we talk about,
you know, Felton getting out of
717
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:06,720
bounds, you got to juggle the
fact that you got to get the
718
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,040
play in, you got to get back on
the line of scrimmage.
719
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,760
But you also, you got to jaw at
the ref a little bit and get in
720
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,000
his ear.
And you got to be able to do all
721
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,000
of that at one time without
wasting 8 or 9 seconds, which it
722
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,000
ultimately ended up happening.
You know, that's what's 1 play.
723
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,800
You know, there, there's a
handful of plays that happened
724
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,320
on that last drive that I think
the amount of action going on
725
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,640
contributed to the poor clock
management, not, not just the
726
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:39,120
fact that he wasn't aware of, of
the situation we were in.
727
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,600
So it's, it's not, it's not just
an awareness problem.
728
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,440
I, I think it was managing
multiple crises at one time,
729
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:48,880
right?
So I think, I think that's,
730
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,040
that's the bigger issue.
And I think that's just going to
731
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,480
be something that takes some
time to adjust to, for someone
732
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,520
that hasn't had to have that
role, you know, before coming to
733
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,240
Virginia Tech.
And, and to Sheldon's point, it
734
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,040
it it's, it is just going to
take time.
735
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,080
I don't it's not necessarily
something that you can flip a
736
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,120
switch on, but it that's
frustrating for a fan base,
737
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:16,320
especially when you know
decisions like that matter in
738
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,560
those one score situations and
we have not been very good in
739
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,840
those one score situations under
pride.
740
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,840
So Yep, in in a lot of those one
score situations, it's been
741
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,880
issues of the management of the
clock of knowing, OK, now it's
742
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,760
time to call a timeout like, oh,
no, no, in the first half.
743
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,800
No, don't call a timeout.
They're not using their timeout.
744
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Just wait.
They want to use their timeout.
745
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,160
That's fine to Danny.
Let it run all the way down,
746
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,280
down.
As far as you can.
747
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,760
I'm petitioning for this.
Virginia Tech should hire
748
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,800
Shelton to be the clock manager
on the sidelines.
749
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:47,680
That's all.
Your job will be.
750
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,800
Shelton the clock know exactly
when the toilet he's available.
751
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,760
He needs a job.
He's an alumni.
752
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,240
He understands clock management.
He will tell you, Coach Pratt,
753
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,320
when to call the time out, when
not to.
754
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,000
He will tell you they're gonna
keep him inbound.
755
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,400
You need to call the time out
right now so.
756
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,240
Yeah, no, I could do it and it's
fine because I played Madden
757
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,840
growing up and I feel like my
generation knows clock
758
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,960
management pretty well.
The older generation, the older
759
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,800
generation, they don't have that
thing inside.
760
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,480
If you play Madden every single
day for like 5 years, you have
761
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,640
it in your brain.
And by the way, just for the
762
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,640
last commenter peacefully asked
about the clock not stopping
763
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,280
when Felton went out of bounds
on last drive.
764
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,680
I know the player talking about
it's because Felton was going
765
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,240
backwards or sideways if you go
backwards or sideways to get out
766
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:36,520
of bounds.
I always thought sideways meant
767
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,080
the clock stopped backwards.
I always knew was a running
768
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,720
clock.
I never thought sideways cuz.
769
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,000
Yeah, the the refs might give
you some leeway there, but
770
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,560
generally speaking, if you if
you try to angle backwards out
771
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,000
of bounds, the clock's not gonna
stop.
772
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,760
And I think that's what happened
there, so.
773
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,120
Just you would have known that
and told Coach Pratt called out
774
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,760
Here we got 2 here, we've got to
burn 1.
775
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,360
Either go all the time out now
or get a damn play in fast
776
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,320
instead of wasting 10 seconds.
Like run it quick, run it quick.
777
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,760
I think, I think another thing
we need to start working on, and
778
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,440
this is an offensive coordinator
situation is getting multiple
779
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,560
plays into.
The huddle in those two-minute
780
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,240
situations, you need to have a
play ready to go you need to be
781
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:13,920
able to get on the line,
understand down in distance,
782
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,880
understand where you are in the
moment and and have plays that
783
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,400
you can get in there accordingly
without having to scramble.
784
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,720
Yeah, after a call like that
where you're like all right, are
785
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:31,160
we getting the clock favorable
here are we not so. 100 percent,
786
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,160
100%.
Hi Brian.
787
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,800
I'm I'm gonna pitch it back to
you on this because feel like
788
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,200
you might have a very strong
feel one way or the other.
789
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,320
Would you have pulled the
trigger on the fake up 10?
790
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,040
I would have taken the three.
I don't hate the call itself.
791
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,560
I hate the execution by a
certain tackle that shall remain
792
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,080
nameless.
Yeah.
793
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,560
So I mean that that that's kind
of where I land on it.
794
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,680
I think that we I don't I don't
hate the call.
795
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,800
I would have taken the three
though, because I feel like in
796
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,840
games like that where it's where
it's tight, where you have an
797
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,880
offense that can score the ball
on you, when you get a big play
798
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,640
like that, I know you hate not
coming away with six, but 3 is
799
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,200
better than than not coming away
with anything.
800
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,640
And again, you got to execute.
I mean, it's it's, it's a, it's
801
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:27,400
a first down if you execute.
Cal taking the points going for
802
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,000
it yeah, I probably would have I
probably would have took the
803
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,040
points in that situation.
Just me myself.
804
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:40,080
Like I just feel like, you know,
we you need all the points you
805
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,160
can get and if they're there,
take them.
806
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:48,120
But if I'm in that game and I'm
looking how we're playing, I
807
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,480
mean, I'm not going to go with a
little brother Carl.
808
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,760
I'm not going with a fake field
goal.
809
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,320
I'm going to put my offense on
the line and I'm going to say
810
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,040
we're going to go our best play
and we're going to either get
811
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,120
this or we're not.
I'm not trying to get a ball to
812
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Harrison St.
Germain to get me 3 yards.
813
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,240
When I got Tooting that they
cannot stop and I got Kyron that
814
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:11,640
can get us.
Like, I just feel like that
815
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,400
wasn't a call.
If I'm going to do that's a
816
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,360
little brother call, you know
what I'm saying?
817
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,400
Like that's that, that's it.
Like if I'm playing my son in
818
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,200
basketball, which he's more
athletic than I am now, but when
819
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,040
he's small, he's got to do stuff
to steal points.
820
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,000
Like now he's just going to go
shoot or he's going to go to the
821
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:31,760
goal because he's quicker than
me and make a layup.
822
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,080
Like you don't have to.
You got to get out of that
823
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,200
mindset.
Like when you're playing like
824
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,280
we're playing that day, I'm
saying hi y'all.
825
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,680
What you think we're going to go
for it?
826
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,760
So I'm, I'm not mad at him for
going for it.
827
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,080
I'm mad at the call.
If you're going to go for it,
828
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,360
what about you, Sheldon?
I would have preferred to just
829
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,120
go for it straight up from
scrimmage.
830
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,520
I like the way the offense was
moving the ball and I, I trust,
831
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,040
you know, try to try to have
your skill guys make a play in
832
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,840
space.
Based on what price on the
833
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,680
postgame, it seems like they got
a certain look from Miami that
834
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,760
that gave them the idea to go
for it.
835
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,720
I guess, you know, they had to
like check into it.
836
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,840
So they probably saw something
that they liked.
837
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,320
Obviously it didn't work out.
But again, we talk about
838
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,360
compounding mistakes.
Again, if you make if you if you
839
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,960
manage the end of the first half
correctly, you're +3.
840
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,160
So that means you're leading by
13 in that situation rather than
841
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,640
10.
If you're up 13, hey, can the
842
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,120
field go up by 16?
That's two touchdowns, +2 to
843
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,040
point conversions.
Maybe you're thinking that's a
844
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,400
little bit more, you know, a
little bit more manageable there
845
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:32,120
and said you're up by 10.
So there's more, you know,
846
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,680
ambiguity in terms of how you
play it because you want to go
847
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,440
up by 17, you know, go up by
three scores.
848
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,480
So again, stakes compound
mistakes.
849
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:42,120
All right, agreed.
I am.
850
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,400
I like what y'all are saying go,
you know if you can go for it
851
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,760
put you guys on the field, you
know that's fine.
852
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,600
Take the point because at that
point in time, 10 point game,
853
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,880
that was the pick play right?
That was the Caleb Spencer pick
854
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,280
that we got deep.
You have all the momentum, all
855
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,840
that fake does.
If you don't pull it off or if
856
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,680
you don't get it on 4th down,
they take the momentum back.
857
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,080
You go down there and they stop
and you kick the field goal.
858
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,800
They didn't take much momentum
back because now they look up
859
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,600
and say we got to drive the
field.
860
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,560
Not once.
We got to drive the field twice.
861
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,360
We can't screw up either one of
our extra point kicks because if
862
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,400
we do, it's a tie game.
If we make a mistake going down,
863
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,920
they can sit on this ball and
start eating clock, which is our
864
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,360
enemy.
But that's what my thing was.
865
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,360
I'm like it was the momentum
shift because as soon as we
866
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,000
missed it, as soon as somebody
got blocked in the Harrison St.
867
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,920
Germain, not going to mention
the name, but the number, y'all
868
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,600
know what it is?
They had all the momentum.
869
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,560
They did.
They had all the momentum.
870
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,480
It's like, oh, they were trying
to put us away.
871
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,160
Are we going to go?
We're going to go get them.
872
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,080
It's like the horror movie.
I'm going to try to kill him the
873
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,920
best I can instead of getting
out of there.
874
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,200
All right, so I'm going to end
it with this because or almost
875
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,280
ended with this.
Do y'all think Miami is a legit
876
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,320
team?
Could they be to the second
877
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,040
round of the playoffs?
Yes.
878
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,440
I think so.
I think depending on the
879
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,040
matchup, yes.
All right, I'm with y'all on
880
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:11,800
that.
I think they are.
881
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,120
I think they have enough weapons
now.
882
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,200
I do think they showed some
flaws.
883
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:20,280
I think that left side of that
offensive line, if you go put an
884
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,080
elite guy who's going to the
NFL, that kid got worked.
885
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,800
Yeah, I got work by APR all
night.
886
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,440
They have their flaws, but they
are explosive.
887
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,480
And when you got a when, oh,
look at this, look at this, look
888
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,240
at this.
This is a lot of people hating
889
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,120
right now.
No, they ain't legit, Chris.
890
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,160
They ain't legit.
They're legit.
891
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,640
They are.
Legit I think Cam.
892
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,960
Mommy got a good.
Team So the thing that impressed
893
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,840
me watching Cam Ward, I mean,
obviously the physical tools are
894
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:54,760
there, but his poise in the face
of Rush, in the face like that,
895
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,280
that was the thing that
impressed me the most about his
896
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,240
game is that he never flinched.
Chris, I'm going to say
897
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:05,640
something right here, Chris.
They averaged 5 yards of carry
898
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,400
on us running the ball.
They can run the ball.
899
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,200
They struggled.
They struggled stopping the run.
900
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,600
But we also have two of the most
dynamic players in the country
901
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:18,400
back there.
Yeah.
902
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,440
I mean, you got to give us.
That's also say you got to give
903
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,560
us credit too.
It's not like they just were a
904
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,360
horrible team.
It's just and again, like I
905
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:28,720
said, the new king is not like
they played a bad game.
906
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:31,840
Miami scored 38 points.
They didn't play the bad game.
907
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,120
They just you know, they play
the team that punched back.
908
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:40,880
So I'm interested to see what
they do this week for for Miami.
909
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,960
All right, anything else y'all
want to bring up because we have
910
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:50,760
just about got to the end here.
You know Miami missed 19 tackles
911
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,840
in that game.
Half one would have tuned,
912
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,080
weren't they?
Yeah, nine were tuned, so
913
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,000
obviously, you know, that kind
of plays into it.
914
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,880
But still, I mean, certainly not
their not their finest
915
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,480
performance.
I think if you're a Miami fan,
916
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,720
you're kind of look at that
like, man, we, you know, we made
917
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:07,120
some mistakes but still got out
of it, you know, with a win
918
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,800
against it, you know, a decent
team.
919
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,160
Yeah.
So kind of, you know, different
920
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,560
ways to look at it obviously.
Yeah, and I mean, I'm not, I'm
921
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,880
not trying to say that Miami
played a, a their best game.
922
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,800
I I don't think, I don't think
we got their best game, but I
923
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,360
think we got a good game from
them.
924
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,120
Yeah, when you got when you got
received with catching the ball
925
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,480
on their back.
Yeah.
926
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,920
They had a little something on
their side, that's all I'm
927
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,120
saying.
Like they they they got a, they
928
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,800
got some playmakers.
They did what they had to do.
929
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,120
So I got to give them their
props on that.
930
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,560
But I mean, when you talk about
missed tackles, sometimes it's
931
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,920
the player like I seen Tootin
bouncing off people making stuff
932
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,640
happen.
I seen Karen bouncing off people
933
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,000
making stuff happen.
And Gosnell, he's just, he's
934
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,080
slippery.
Like, come on man, we got
935
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,520
players too.
We got it.
936
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:55,000
Our coaches got to understand
that, you know, as well as our
937
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,240
fans and the players themselves.
Like man, y'all dudes too, you
938
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:02,840
know, we got to go into games
the same way, you know, we don't
939
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,600
we shouldn't have to wait till
Game 5 till we see this guy.
940
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,680
We shouldn't have to wait, you
know, till whatever to see this.
941
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,160
Like man, just if we start doing
this, we ain't even having these
942
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,880
conversations.
You know what I'm saying?
943
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:22,800
Like we sitting at 5 and O or
four and one so 100% all righty
944
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,920
so let's flip it just a couple
things on if y'all have not
945
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,240
heard.
I know we didn't talk about it
946
00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:31,160
last week, but you know there
were more pressing things last
947
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,960
week.
May 7th 2025 Metallica will play
948
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:40,200
Lane stadium probably I think
they're saying 80,000 plus
949
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,960
there.
Brian has already purchased his
950
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,280
tickets.
He is going, he was one of the
951
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,400
first ones, but pretty cool
regardless whether you're a fan
952
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,080
of Metallica or not, it's pretty
damn cool.
953
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:58,320
They got that band.
They've been around 40 years to
954
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:04,960
come to Blacksburg.
That's what I said about that.
955
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,400
Ain't got it.
That what I say about that.
956
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:14,280
We're for the will these dudes
out here in wheelchairs to play
957
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:19,800
what we waiting what they wait
till 2025 to do this for
958
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,880
Sheldon?
Are you going to see Metallica
959
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,200
play?
Nope, that's not my cup of tea.
960
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,840
Them kids ain't going to see
them.
961
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,080
That's going to be people are
older than me going up, man, get
962
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,720
some.
I'm going to calm down what we
963
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,880
got next, Curtis.
We'll go back to that later on.
964
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,480
Y'all know?
Y'all know how I feel about
965
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,360
them.
Well, listen, you hated the song
966
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,720
until you went to spring in a
few years ago and we completely
967
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:51,040
turned you around on No, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
968
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,000
I didn't.
I didn't hate the song.
969
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,680
That's not it.
I didn't hate the song.
970
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,120
I hated people's reaction to the
song.
971
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,280
When all I heard on Twitter was
this is back when we had
972
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:03,640
Twitter.
This wasn't X.
973
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,640
All I heard was this is what
makes our interest the best.
974
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,840
This is what I'm like, no, y'all
make the interest the best.
975
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,400
The fans do.
Like the fans show up and
976
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,240
they're going to support.
Like it don't matter what song
977
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:17,120
I'm playing now because of that
song.
978
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,800
And people have embraced it and
they show up and do the same
979
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,320
thing every week.
Yeah, that's cool.
980
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,120
But we ain't just that.
We shouldn't be just the
981
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,600
interest, you know what I'm
saying?
982
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,760
Like that's that.
That was my take on it.
983
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,000
I never hated the song, you
know?
984
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,760
I'm just looking at it like, I
feel like we fantasize Metallica
985
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,440
too much, like we give them too
much credit.
986
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,760
I'm glad they show up.
I hope they start wearing
987
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,400
Virginia Tech stuff.
Like when I see them go on shows
988
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,200
and they start wearing Virginia
Tech hats and talking about
989
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,480
their song being played at Lane
Stadium, maybe I feel a little
990
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,360
bit better about them.
I feel like we get them more
991
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:54,600
publicity than they give us.
That's just my opinion, all
992
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,800
right?
And with that are in the middle
993
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,680
here.
So before we flip over to know
994
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,760
the enemy, as y'all know we are
brought to you by counts Family
995
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,720
Pharmacy, your friendly
neighborhood pharmacy.
996
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:10,640
Check out Jeremy and the staff
over three O 1 S Main St. in
997
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,800
Blacksburg.
Well, we got to close it and we
998
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,880
got to move on because the boys
got to get on a plane tomorrow.
999
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,480
I think they're getting on the
plane about lunchtime tomorrow
1000
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,400
and flying out West down to
Stanford, down on the Farm.
1001
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:28,440
And we do need to get to know
the enemy of the two and three
1002
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,880
or two and two Stanford Cardinal
coming off basically getting
1003
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,480
thumped by Clemson down in Death
Valley last week.
1004
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,760
So let's talk about them.
And I want to talk about their
1005
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,760
offense.
One of the more unusual or
1006
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,480
unique things you see in college
or you don't see in college
1007
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,600
football.
Their offensive coordinator is
1008
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,160
Troy Taylor.
He is also their head coach.
1009
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:54,240
Brian, hey, could you do that
even at the Pop Warner level,
1010
00:51:54,720 --> 00:51:56,760
first of all?
And then what's give us a little
1011
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,000
bit about Troy Taylor's offense?
Could I personally do that?
1012
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,440
Or could you?
Personally do that at the Pop
1013
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,680
Warner level.
I could, I could personally do
1014
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,120
it at the Pop Warner level, but
I wouldn't want to go much past
1015
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,280
that with, with, with my
abilities.
1016
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,640
Now.
You know, I, I, I had a head
1017
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,120
coach at hand and Sydney that
was also the offensive
1018
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,920
coordinator.
So I know that that can it can
1019
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,400
be done and done at a high
level.
1020
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,160
You know, 2003 in terms of
scoring offense, we were number
1021
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,440
one in all of college football
across all divisions.
1022
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:34,520
So it can be done.
That being said, you know, it's
1023
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,120
it's not something that you see
at the power 4 level very often.
1024
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,560
It let alone, you know, if you
look at just Division One in
1025
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:45,240
general.
So this is going to be a
1026
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:49,400
quarterback power option attack.
It's, it's a, it's a run heavy
1027
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,600
system.
It runs through the quarterback
1028
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:56,120
in that option attack.
They're going to use their tight
1029
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,560
ends both as blockers and as
receiving threats.
1030
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,360
You got two out there, Benjamin,
you you Rosik and Sam Roush.
1031
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,400
Those are the tight ends that
are in this offense.
1032
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,480
It, it's, it's an interesting
offense because it, it is a,
1033
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,360
it's a run heavy team, but I
don't think that they are
1034
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,360
necessarily ready up front to be
super successful with that.
1035
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,200
But when they do get into a
rhythm, they can, they can move
1036
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,680
the ball somewhat effectively.
And you know, their quarterback,
1037
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:31,600
who we may or may not see is, is
pretty effective both with his
1038
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,960
legs and throwing the football.
Yeah, let's talk about him
1039
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,800
straight up here.
Let's talk about Ashton Daniels,
1040
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:45,440
A a kind of a low prospect
actually from the East Coast,
1041
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,480
played at Buford High School
down in Georgia.
1042
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,040
Buford, if I can remember, that
is where Dylan Witke went to
1043
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,000
right?
So Mike, correct me if I'm wrong
1044
00:53:54,000 --> 00:54:00,800
out there came out that was a
three start back in 2022, six
1045
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:06,400
foot three, 200 lbs.
And so far this season, like you
1046
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,880
said, Brian, lots of run.
He is leading the team in
1047
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:15,120
rushing 600 yards passing, 5
touchdowns, 6 picks, 50 rushes,
1048
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,160
250 yards per.
So obviously averaging a buck
1049
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:22,440
over 60 a game.
So definitely a threat in that.
1050
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:26,320
What are you seeing from him?
But I know he got banged up at
1051
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,360
the Clemson game and who
potentially could be taking his
1052
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:30,960
place.
Yeah.
1053
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,080
I mean, you kind of said it
there.
1054
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,800
I mean, this guy is really good
in the running game, really good
1055
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:41,400
with his reads in that option,
has the athletic ability to make
1056
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,840
the big play, but is very
consistent with getting good
1057
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:50,120
yardage in that running game.
You know, when he comes to the
1058
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,640
pocket and and throwing the
ball, he can make those throws
1059
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,840
on the run.
He has pretty good poise, but he
1060
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:59,600
does take some risk with the
football and and that's evidence
1061
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,080
with when you look at that
touchdown interception ratio
1062
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,760
there.
But when we look at who might
1063
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,960
end up starting in his place if
he's not able to go, you're
1064
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,720
looking at Justin Lampson.
I'd say just from a pure rushing
1065
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,360
standpoint, probably a little
bit better.
1066
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,720
Doesn't have the reads or the
vision that Daniels does, but I
1067
00:55:19,720 --> 00:55:22,880
think in terms of pure
athleticism right up there as
1068
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,400
well.
But definitely does not possess
1069
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,840
the arm talent.
But we haven't necessarily seen
1070
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:34,440
him unleash a whole lot yet.
So I'd have to go look up the
1071
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,280
stuff on Lampson.
I had a chance to look at a
1072
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,080
couple receivers.
I know Tyler, I know you got
1073
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,720
one.
But I want to talk about the
1074
00:55:41,720 --> 00:55:47,640
receiver, Ishmael sis, because I
feel like if when I look at his
1075
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:53,880
body type, bigger guy came out
of Colorado five star basically
1076
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,880
playing here as a red shirt
freshman, second on the team.
1077
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,240
Got a little bit of run last
year.
1078
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:05,720
Did anything pop on tape for him
as you were looking, Brian?
1079
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,120
Yeah, he's there probably down
the field threat.
1080
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,320
They like to run him, you know,
deep routes, wheel routes.
1081
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,480
They like to get him the ball
down the field.
1082
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,000
He let him use his body to go up
and make those plays.
1083
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,200
I think he's going to be a
handful.
1084
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,280
I think he's a guy that you got
to make sure doesn't get behind
1085
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,360
you.
You know they don't throw the
1086
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:31,640
ball a ton, but they are pretty
effective with hitting the deep
1087
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:38,240
balls when they do go for him.
All right, Tally, were you able
1088
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:40,200
to get that info on the second
wide receiver?
1089
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,880
Yeah, I got a little bit on him,
so I ain't going to mess up his
1090
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,120
name.
But is it Elik AO Manor?
1091
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,760
Does that sound right?
Ayomano, I think.
1092
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,960
There we go.
Whoever that the guy that caught
1093
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,680
all the passes against Colorado
last year, we just don't need
1094
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,240
him to do that.
I mean, this year he's got 21
1095
00:57:02,240 --> 00:57:07,680
receptions, 284 yards, 2
touchdowns, averaging about 13
1096
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,440
yards per catch.
I mean, he's a handful.
1097
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:15,160
He's he's 62, about 210.
He's a a big receiver and he's a
1098
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,640
he's very skilled, probably an
NFL guy.
1099
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:22,280
He's just a sophomore.
So he's a very talented
1100
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:27,520
receiver.
But again, we have some talented
1101
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,040
people as well.
We're just going to have to
1102
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,120
figure out how to scheme to not
let him get loose on us.
1103
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:37,040
But I think more of the problem
is defending the run and then
1104
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,960
them busting a big plate.
You know, you got a quarterback
1105
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,800
back there that can move around
or a couple of quarterbacks back
1106
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,600
there moving around and then
next thing you know, you got,
1107
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,880
you know, hitting hit one of
those guys deep.
1108
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,960
That's what we're going to have
to fight against this week.
1109
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,800
Yeah, and I mean, they're going
to break in a not a not as much
1110
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,840
as as we saw against Vanderbilt,
but they'll be some some triple
1111
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,040
option elements thrown in there
from time to time.
1112
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,320
So we got to make sure that
we're sticking with our men
1113
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,680
outside and not getting our eyes
in the backfield.
1114
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,400
If you're a cornerback or a
safety and get caught kick
1115
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:14,080
caught peeking.
As far as Ayamano is concerned,
1116
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,920
he's got a powerful frame, kind
of reminds me of a little bit
1117
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:21,640
taller Jalen Lane in a lot of
ways, You know, good burst, good
1118
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,360
speed, separates well on those,
like in breaking routes, on
1119
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:30,080
slants, on ends, on digs.
But I'd say probably the biggest
1120
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,120
thing that he does poorly is
that he will drop the ball.
1121
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:38,320
He'll put the ball on the turf.
He's not as effective with that
1122
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,440
catch percentage as, you know,
your typical NFL wide receiver
1123
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,840
would be.
So that's probably the biggest
1124
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:48,080
weakness that he might have.
All right, Sean, I know you said
1125
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,640
you did a little bit of research
concerning their offensive line
1126
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,320
and their rushing.
What?
1127
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,600
What are you finding out about
that?
1128
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,960
Well, it hasn't been great
individually.
1129
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,080
Stanford does not have any
offensive lineman that grades
1130
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,080
top 50 in the ACC.
And when you look at their their
1131
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:09,640
team sets overall 91st in
rushing success rate, they don't
1132
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:12,880
really stand up particularly in
anyone statistical category.
1133
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:18,760
You know, offense overall 83rd
or excuse me, 79th in SP plus.
1134
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,800
So, you know, not great there.
They're 49th in pass blocking
1135
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,680
efficiency, which is, you know,
kind of on the lower end of
1136
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,280
power power four and they've
struggled a lot in early downs.
1137
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:32,200
So 126 in EPA.
So obviously when you get behind
1138
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,360
the sticks, you know, that makes
it, that makes even tougher, you
1139
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,960
know, facing a lot, lots of
third lungs, which if you can't,
1140
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:41,840
you know, if, if you're
struggling past recession, kind
1141
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,200
of makes everything worse.
So, you know, like Brian said,
1142
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,600
they do throw a pretty decent
amount of deep balls.
1143
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:50,160
They just aren't particularly
successful at completing a lot
1144
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,840
of them.
What did you see from Pass Pro
1145
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:57,920
and just, you know, obviously
the numbers are saying a lot of
1146
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:01,840
things there, but what did you
just get the feel of to say if
1147
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,200
we do X on the defensive line,
they're going to absolutely
1148
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,280
struggle?
I don't think we're going to
1149
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,000
have a problem getting pressure
with four.
1150
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:13,480
When you think about APR, when
you think about Burgos, I, I, I
1151
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,600
think we're not going to have a
problem getting into their
1152
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,760
backfield.
I think the thing that concerns
1153
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,680
me and, and you know, we saw us
some of it last week with Cam
1154
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,080
Ward is that, you know, you got
to be cognizant of those pass
1155
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,120
rush lanes and make sure you
don't give athletic quarterbacks
1156
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:32,880
lanes to kind of steal third
downs from you.
1157
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,920
So that's the thing that that
concerns me.
1158
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,080
But from a just a being able to
line up and and play with them
1159
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:43,840
in the trenches, I think we
we've got them in spades looking
1160
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,680
at our defensive line against
that offensive line.
1161
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,640
All righty.
So there's a little bit of the
1162
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,320
offensive potentially what we
could see Saturday afternoon
1163
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:59,520
330, is it ACC Network Saturday?
I haven't seen the the network
1164
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,480
yet, might find that out for me.
Efforting.
1165
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,120
Efredine, Efredine.
But while Brian or Tally or
1166
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,320
Shelton find that, we are going
to flip over to the defensive
1167
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:15,600
side of the ball.
Brian defense led by Bobby
1168
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,880
April.
Give me a little bit about this.
1169
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,640
I think it's got one of those
unique defenses, right?
1170
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,360
Yeah.
I mean, we're kind of looking at
1171
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:32,040
that, that 245 defense that we
saw some with the UNC up until
1172
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,760
the last last couple years
there.
1173
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,640
But they will also shift over
into a three, three stack.
1174
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,200
So you get a little bit of
multiplicity there where they're
1175
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,440
going to have multiple fronts
thrown at our offense.
1176
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,440
And you know, primarily they're
going to be in that.
1177
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,760
That 245 though, especially in
this passing downs very much
1178
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:55,200
predicated on stopping the run.
First they want to get you
1179
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,160
behind the sticks and then, you
know, bring pressure from
1180
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,800
multiple levels, Bring some of
those pressure packages that
1181
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,440
confuse the offensive line, get
you to make some mistakes so
1182
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:07,520
that that's really their their
goal and their bread and butter
1183
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,880
is to play well on 1st down.
And then you send some of their
1184
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,120
their outside linebackers at
you.
1185
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,360
All righty.
And talking about sending those
1186
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,840
outside linebackers, talking
about pressure, they are really
1187
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,600
LED in that department by a guy
by the name of David Bailey.
1188
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:31,200
David Bailey was a top 50 player
when he came out in 2022.
1189
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,720
He was one of the top five edges
in the country.
1190
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,320
He's 6 foot three.
He's about 240 lbs now out of
1191
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,360
Mater D High School.
That's a big one out in
1192
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:45,680
California that puts out studs.
Last year, 5 sacks with 34
1193
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,080
tackles.
This year in just four games,
1194
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,880
two sacks already, 8 total
tackles.
1195
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,280
Brian, I know we were going to
talk about kind of the leader
1196
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:58,320
there, Anthony Franklin, but you
messaged me and said I like
1197
01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,440
Franklin, but we got to talk
about David Bailey.
1198
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:01,960
What?
What did you see from him on
1199
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,080
that take?
Yeah, I mean, he's the dude.
1200
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:08,160
He stands out on this defense.
He plays that outside linebacker
1201
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,440
spot in their base set, but he
will be a stack backer in the
1202
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:16,120
335.
He comes off the edge with with
1203
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:21,560
with really good balance, able
to bend very well, get around
1204
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:25,520
the outside, make plays on the
quarterback really good bull
1205
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:30,120
rush isn't lost when he's asked
to to have coverage
1206
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,200
responsibilities either.
So he's he's he's a little
1207
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,960
versatile in that way.
So he's really kind of a do it
1208
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,880
all guy from that position.
All righty.
1209
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,720
And so Shelton sent me this as
well.
1210
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:49,920
RSD Man 97 ACC Network 330I
think we are there Bell Cal
1211
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,320
there because they know we're
going to come in to watch every
1212
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,960
week.
Valley.
1213
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,640
Were you able to get that stuff
for Tristan Sinclair?
1214
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,560
Yeah, Tristan Sinclair, one of
the linebackers, he's actually
1215
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,360
he was a when you talk about
high school coming out of high
1216
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,320
school, he was a stud coming out
of high school, borderline 5
1217
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:14,640
star player, big offers, you
know, Notre Dame, Colorado,
1218
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:19,760
Texas A&M, Nebraska, Southern
Cal, Utah.
1219
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,640
So had a lot of good offers and
and has been, you know, very
1220
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:30,200
productive at at at Stanford.
He's their leading Tyler right
1221
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,680
now.
He's got a sack so far this
1222
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:38,120
season and about 24 tackles.
So he's going to be a handful.
1223
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,920
You know, they're in that line
back in court as well.
1224
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:45,240
Brian, what you got on him?
Yeah, I mean, the big thing
1225
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,440
about him, I mean, he's their
definitely their best run
1226
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,120
defense linebacker on the field,
really good at shedding
1227
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,480
blockers, beating the play in
the gap.
1228
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,120
I wouldn't call him as good
sideline to sideline as maybe
1229
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,920
some of the other linebackers
we've seen this year, but he
1230
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,840
makes up for it and just having
a nose for the football and kind
1231
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:06,280
of being wherever he needs to
be.
1232
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:11,240
So definitely a guy that we got
to account for every play on
1233
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,800
that, that linebacking unit for
the Cardinal.
1234
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:17,200
All right, Sheldon, send me a
quick message.
1235
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,880
Sheldon, you said you had a
couple things on David Bailey,
1236
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,520
obviously.
Yeah, so he is graded out at at
1237
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,840
91 on PFF, not only the highest
on the team, but also the
1238
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,040
highest in the ACC.
So they they like him the most.
1239
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,480
Now he he has been banged up the
past couple of games, which is
1240
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,040
why he's only played 39 snaps
total the last few games.
1241
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,200
But he does have 11 quarterback
pressures, which is obviously,
1242
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,120
you know, a really a gaudy total
at this point in the season.
1243
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,320
Like I said, Sinclair at the
linebacker spot, leading tackler
1244
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,640
Bernadel grades out at 70 on
BFF, really good and run
1245
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,360
defense, another one of their
linebackers.
1246
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,360
And then I've got a couple, you
know, decent corners, Colin
1247
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:03,800
Wright, who's averaging 4.2
yards per per target when he's
1248
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,880
thrown out this year and has a
really good pass rating when
1249
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:09,920
teams go at him.
So, you know, pretty decent,
1250
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,240
decent corners overall.
Defensively, again, still not
1251
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:18,360
great. 90th and SP plus and
102nd and success rate allowed
1252
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,400
in particular, they've actually
struggled overall as a
1253
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,120
secondary.
They rank 112th and drop back
1254
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:26,800
success rates that includes
passing attempts and Sachs as
1255
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,000
well.
You know, they just they just
1256
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,080
haven't really been good in that
that back four there.
1257
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,040
Yep.
And you and you mentioned Colin,
1258
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,320
right?
And, and Brian, I want you to
1259
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,520
tell me what you were seeing on
tape with him because he's
1260
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:41,400
listed on the depth chart as a
corner.
1261
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:45,960
And you know, so far this season
as far as a corner goes and
1262
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,880
playing last year, he's already
got 2 picks this year.
1263
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:53,000
One of those was in the Clemson
game, couple tackles for loss
1264
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:57,680
last year, 5 past deflections.
Where are they lining him up?
1265
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,800
Because you know, they're saying
corner, but are they doing a lot
1266
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,560
of different things?
Is he's like their gadget guy
1267
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,240
they can do anything with?
Yeah, I mean, he's basically a
1268
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,960
nickel safety is kind of how
they're deploying him.
1269
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,440
You know, he'll be, he'll play
kind of a box safety.
1270
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:17,800
He'll he'll also, you know, line
up outside of the nickel so that
1271
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,520
they'll use him a couple
different ways, but that that's
1272
01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:21,760
really how they're lining him
up.
1273
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,880
And you know, looking at him
play, I mean, he's really sound
1274
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,480
from a technical standpoint.
I like the way he plays
1275
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:28,680
football.
He does a really good job of
1276
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:31,760
playing with leverage out there
on the outside.
1277
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,600
So he's definitely somebody that
you know we've got to account
1278
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,680
for and like I said from from
that role, he is very good and
1279
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,520
run support, but also isn't a
liability in that, in that pass
1280
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,400
coverage piece as well.
All righty.
1281
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,520
So there is sort of the know
your enemy, some key players
1282
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:55,800
from the Stanford Cardinal as we
go out there Saturday to take
1283
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:58,480
them on.
But, you know, always we're
1284
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,360
going to talk about what we feel
are the keys to the Hokies
1285
01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,800
games.
So Jonathan Talley, I'm going to
1286
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,880
kick to you first.
Any specific keys, whether
1287
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:12,960
mental, statistical, just feel
for this game for the Hokies,
1288
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,200
Yeah, It's just punch.
It's not mental.
1289
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,640
It's physical.
You got a punch.
1290
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:28,920
Like go drink a Red Bull and act
like a idiot from the trailer
1291
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:35,279
park when Alabama loses.
Punch, punch something, not
1292
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:38,200
physically punch somebody.
But you got to go into the game
1293
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,840
and you got to have the same
mindset as you had against
1294
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,800
Miami.
Not just because it's Miami, not
1295
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,680
just because they got the little
number by their name.
1296
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,600
You got to go into the game
knowing that it's going to be a
1297
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,279
fight every game.
If we win in every game, like we
1298
01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:52,680
went into that Miami game, I
don't want to keep dwelling on
1299
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:54,960
it.
I feel like things would have
1300
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,000
been much different.
So if you got to go into this
1301
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,880
game ready to punch.
And I think we'll be fine if we
1302
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:03,640
if we do that.
Sean, what about you?
1303
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,640
What?
What is your key in this game?
1304
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,200
I mean, I think just, you know,
kind of be able to attack them
1305
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,439
vertically in the passing game.
Like I said, this is a team that
1306
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,920
struggles a lot defending the
the pass.
1307
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,720
So, you know, I'd like to see
some some creativity there,
1308
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,200
just, you know, be able to push
the ball down field.
1309
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:21,760
I think it's a good match up for
Vt.
1310
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,319
You know, I know, you know, much
has been made about the the end
1311
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:27,479
to last week.
It seems like from, you know,
1312
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,920
everything we've seen with the
program, they are 100% moved on
1313
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,200
from, from Miami game, you know,
refocused.
1314
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,160
And I think they come out pretty
strong and, and you know, if
1315
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:36,960
they play like they're they're
capable of, they will win this
1316
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,840
game.
Brian, what about you, man?
1317
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:44,520
I'm gonna say it here.
Don't let one play beat you
1318
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,200
twice.
I noticed.
1319
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,760
I know you're looking at based
on what Sheldon said, but
1320
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,319
looking at everything I've seen,
it looks like they've done the
1321
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:54,440
job of kind of putting Miami
behind them.
1322
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:59,280
I want to see it on the field
because we we can't do that
1323
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,920
thing where we let one game and
one play beat us 2 times.
1324
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:06,280
So we need to go out there.
We have to get back to 500, keep
1325
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,960
moving forward in ACC play and
see what happens and let it
1326
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,400
shake out.
But we got to take care of
1327
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,120
Stanford first.
That's what's in front of you.
1328
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:13,640
Don't worry about what's behind
you.
1329
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:14,760
Don't worry about what's ahead
of them.
1330
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,000
Go ahead and take care of
Stanford.
1331
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:21,560
Yep, and and for me it is going
to be don't lose what you found
1332
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:25,600
Friday night because what you
found Friday night was the team,
1333
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:30,480
not only all of us on this
podcast expected everybody over.
1334
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:32,560
It's over here in the chat
expected.
1335
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:37,080
That's the team we expected.
If that team that plays like
1336
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:43,240
that shows up Saturday, it's
going to be 645 and I'm going to
1337
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,120
be enjoying dinner.
What a nice victory beer.
1338
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:51,600
If that team shows up Saturday,
don't lose that because there
1339
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,280
are not a lot of teams left on
the schedule that can beat that
1340
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:58,800
team that played Friday.
And there's probably, I would
1341
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,280
say maybe, and maybe I'm being
boisterous here.
1342
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,360
Maybe I'm being super confident.
To me, that's only probably 10
1343
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,280
or 12 teams in the country that
could beat that team that showed
1344
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,960
up Friday.
And it would be a game like we
1345
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:12,720
played against Miami.
It would be a war.
1346
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,640
All righty now we got to get
into our predictions and I'm
1347
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,400
gonna let Shelton go first.
Shelton give me a score
1348
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:25,040
prediction of this game.
I'm gonna go Hokies.
1349
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:30,600
I'm gonna go 27 to 17.
I think they're gonna come out,
1350
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,960
they're gonna cover, they're
gonna play well.
1351
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,680
I think the the defense will be
highly motivated.
1352
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,280
They're gonna get to the the
young quarterback that's we
1353
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:42,040
presume it to be filling in for
for Ashton Daniels, and I think
1354
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,520
they're going to make life
miserable for him.
1355
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,720
I predict at least one sack for
APR, if not more.
1356
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:56,480
If not more, Callie, I'm fading
the Hokies, baby, I'm fading
1357
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:59,240
them.
Put my face up in the locker
1358
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:04,200
room.
I'm going to say 3427 Stanford.
1359
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,520
Only reason I'm saying it, it's
because I got to see.
1360
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,560
I got to see it on the field, I
got to see it on the field.
1361
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,320
We keep losing close games.
I got to go by the past.
1362
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,120
You got to show me something in
the future, Got to pick against
1363
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,320
you.
Stanford Tally is not on board
1364
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,440
until they show him something.
I feel like we heard this story
1365
01:12:22,440 --> 01:12:24,640
last year and then they started
showing him some Brian.
1366
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:30,120
Siegler I'm not fading, I think
because I don't think it's going
1367
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,360
to be a close game.
Being honest with you, I don't
1368
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,000
think it's going to be a
blowout, but I think we're going
1369
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,800
to have a 14 point win there.
I think it's going to be 3420
1370
01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,760
Hokies.
I think APR has three sacks.
1371
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,240
Show them.
Let's do.
1372
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:47,320
It that'd be 10 for the that's
10 for the year 10 fucking 10
1373
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:49,600
might be going after some record
chair.
1374
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,440
I'm going to throw this up.
Chris Lester.
1375
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:55,080
Everybody always out there 3510
Hokies.
1376
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:58,800
I'm 3120 Hokies.
I think they continue to bring
1377
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,800
that team.
What I was going to say,
1378
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaking of Chris Lester, thank
you.
1379
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,400
Thank you, Chris.
Thank you, Chris for texting me
1380
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:11,800
at 12:00 at night or 1:00 in the
morning.
1381
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,960
And let me know what you watch
on film.
1382
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,880
So I have to wake up and watch
it too.
1383
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:17,840
It is your rule.
It is your fault.
1384
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,680
It is your fault that I was up
watching the game.
1385
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,520
So thank you, Chris.
Now, Chris, that's my God, man.
1386
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:27,360
We go over a lot of football
together, especially, you know,
1387
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,040
hokey football.
And Chris is damn near a coach
1388
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:35,040
from from the couch like he's
he's going over film and he's
1389
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:38,120
watching he's not watching the
ball like some fans watch the
1390
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,200
game and watch the ball.
Chris is watching everything.
1391
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:43,160
Hey, when you watch it, what
look at look, look at this false
1392
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,360
step he takes.
I'm like, how you?
1393
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,840
It's 2:00 in the morning, man.
What are you looking at this
1394
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,520
for?
Fuck it, let me get up and watch
1395
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,400
it to do so.
It's my God, man.
1396
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:55,840
I love, I love the way he
approaches it.
1397
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:59,400
I I in the comment comments he
puts in here are always super
1398
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,360
insightful too.
And I'll tell you another thing
1399
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:03,680
about Chris.
I don't know if somebody all
1400
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,040
know but that that that dude is
tall when when I saw him in
1401
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:08,680
Nashville.
I didn't realize he was that big
1402
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,000
and tall either until I was in
Nashville.
1403
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,280
Like on the pictures he ain't
fat by no means, but in the
1404
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,200
pictures he look kind of skinny.
Like now I got a back like
1405
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:18,560
Dwight Howard.
I'm like damn.
1406
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:22,080
I mean like 6, like I'm like 6-2
and he's looking down at me.
1407
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,040
I'm like, no, I don't like that.
I don't like being around people
1408
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:27,480
looking down at me.
Dawg, got to sit down.
1409
01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:29,920
If we're going to hang out, you
got to sit down.
1410
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,880
Stop standing up over me.
All right, I'm going to give my
1411
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,600
prediction now.
I should have waited till after
1412
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,520
I've talked to because now we
know exactly what to do for
1413
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:40,360
Tally.
If you want to wake Tally up in
1414
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,520
the middle of the night, text
him about a football play from
1415
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,080
our game.
He will wake up.
1416
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,000
He will go downstairs.
He will turn on the.
1417
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,280
TV it's got to be a false step.
Where's the false step?
1418
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,880
Point out the false step.
Special team miscue, several
1419
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,080
teams miscues.
Give me 3120 Hokies.
1420
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,800
I think I'm with Brian on this.
This is going to be in my
1421
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,800
opinion, I ain't going to say
easy game, but cruise control
1422
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:04,520
game.
Just do what you do.
1423
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,160
They ain't going to be able to
stop it.
1424
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,440
Do what you on defense.
You're going to make them pay a
1425
01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:11,840
few times.
Got a couple other hokey
1426
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,440
predictions here.
Got the rock out here saying
1427
01:15:14,440 --> 01:15:17,240
3813.
They take out their
1428
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:23,360
frustrations.
We got oh, look at this RSD man
1429
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,200
Say it's close.
Oh, we got a lot of them coming.
1430
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,080
Oh, look who is staying up late
tonight.
1431
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,200
Jason.
Jason staying up late.
1432
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:33,960
Hey, we, we, we, we about to
play a special one for you.
1433
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,960
We are as well and Jason
Schwartz out here.
1434
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:41,080
Hey.
I got.
1435
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,080
A les VA baby.
All righty.
1436
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,880
Well, believe it or not, we
watch more than just a hokey
1437
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,280
games on the weekends.
At least I do.
1438
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,120
As mad as I was Saturday, I
watched a lot of football on a
1439
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:00,320
on on Friday I watched a lot of
football actually I was pissed
1440
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,880
off on Saturday.
On Friday into Saturday I
1441
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:06,200
literally had a four finger
Scotch after the game.
1442
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,120
I can go to bed till 1:30 on
Friday night and I had to be up
1443
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,000
early Saturday.
It was not a fun day at all.
1444
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,720
But we do watch more than one
game.
1445
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,480
We look at games every week.
Here we have our big Screener
1446
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:24,520
segment where last week the only
two people at 500 or better were
1447
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,440
myself, the music man, Jason
Long.
1448
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:34,200
He we both went three and three,
Brian two and four, Tally two
1449
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:36,880
and four, Miranda two and four,
and Shelton two and four.
1450
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:44,000
As far as the season records go,
Brian and Tally slightly ahead
1451
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,800
at a 53 point win clip.
I am the 5050 man, Shelton.
1452
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:51,760
You get 40% man.
You got, you got, you got to,
1453
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:53,000
you got to make some picks here,
man.
1454
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,480
Pump those numbers up.
I need some regression to the
1455
01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:58,440
mean here.
There you go, regression through
1456
01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:00,520
the mean and here comes the
money picks.
1457
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,240
Right?
Here we go, big screeners.
1458
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:05,880
We start off as we always do,
with Brian Siegler.
1459
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:10,600
Brian, where we going this week?
Hey, we're going to UNLV baby
1460
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,720
Las Vegas.
Hey.
1461
01:17:14,360 --> 01:17:19,440
Baby Syracuse taking on UNLV,
UNLV the favor by 6 here.
1462
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,080
I'm going to take Hughes.
I've liked what they've done so
1463
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,360
far.
I like their quarterback.
1464
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:28,920
I think they're going to make
just enough plays with with the
1465
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,240
flux and everything that UNLV is
dealing with.
1466
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,920
We'll see if they they miss a
beat here at some point,
1467
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:36,800
especially once the competition
ramps up a little bit like it is
1468
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,600
this week.
So give me QS.
1469
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:42,840
Yeah, I'm with you.
I think, you know, they beat
1470
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:45,080
Fresno State, usually a pretty
good West Coast team.
1471
01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:46,840
They they absolutely pummeled
them.
1472
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,440
But I think last week was the
mentality of look at all this
1473
01:17:50,440 --> 01:17:52,640
shit that's happened.
It's US against the world.
1474
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,200
Let's go out there and play.
I think they crashed back to
1475
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,000
earth.
I give me Syracuse, give me the
1476
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:00,880
points.
I think Syracuse wins outright
1477
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:05,480
as well.
Sally or Shelton Shelton,
1478
01:18:05,480 --> 01:18:07,640
Shelton Shelton.
Yes, it would help if I was
1479
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,560
actually paying attention.
Yeah, I'm taking Syracuse too.
1480
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,000
Just for record.
I'm I'm making these picks
1481
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:16,800
mainly best off vibes because
I've struggled so much last two
1482
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,480
weeks.
So just going with going with
1483
01:18:19,480 --> 01:18:23,520
the vibes, giving the cues.
Hey, Sheldon, I think, I think
1484
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,800
we're, we're, we're pretty much
on the same pace here.
1485
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,720
So I, I, I had a rough week last
week.
1486
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,400
I was like, you know what, how
am I feeling?
1487
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:33,160
What am I feeling this week?
Just just ride with the vibes.
1488
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,760
I think that's going to live us
live to live to do me better
1489
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:37,880
this week.
So we'll see.
1490
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:41,560
Yeah, I'm going to ride the
vibes, too.
1491
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:46,200
I'm going to say cues as well.
Kind of like Brian said, UNLV
1492
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,680
has a lot of stuff going on, so
at some point I feel like
1493
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:51,240
they're going to stumble.
I think it's going to be this
1494
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,840
week.
All righty.
1495
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,040
And the two back there are
wonderful.
1496
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:02,080
Rider Miranda and our music man
Jason are saying roll with the
1497
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,840
running rebels, roll with Vegas.
They liked what they saw last
1498
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,520
week after all that craziness,
so.
1499
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:10,560
Hey, hey, listen, you'll put
y'all pics in here.
1500
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:11,880
I'll definitely throw your name
up.
1501
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,320
Chris, Chris saying he's going
to take the points too.
1502
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:17,120
All right, all right, oh oh,
here we go.
1503
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:22,000
This is why it's really picking.
Hey, you know what shout out to
1504
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:24,920
SWVA man.
I ordered some stuff from them
1505
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,840
I'm getting some stuff from them
man, if y'all have not went to
1506
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:30,800
their website to take a look at
their products man, they got
1507
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:34,200
some awesome shirts and hats.
I'm waiting on a orange hat.
1508
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,360
It's the only reason I haven't
got a hat, but the the white
1509
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,960
hats that they're putting out
gas.
1510
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,160
I just sweat too much for a
white hat.
1511
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,320
So I try to stay away from them
because I can only have like one
1512
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,840
time.
But now they're putting some
1513
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:50,480
some some really good stuff out
and it's big man friendly.
1514
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,120
Like shoot, they got 3X4X
shirts.
1515
01:19:53,480 --> 01:19:57,080
Y'all need to go hop on their
website right now and and take a
1516
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:00,000
look at their products because I
just got me some coming my way.
1517
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:04,800
All righty there we go.
So definitely look at SWVA.
1518
01:20:05,480 --> 01:20:11,000
I am the next man up and let's
go to Berkeley where you the you
1519
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:16,760
travels across country, y'all.
This is a 10/30 East Coast kick.
1520
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:22,640
10:30 This is ACC after dark,
which means I'm going to
1521
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,440
probably stay up till 2:00 in
the morning.
1522
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,000
There you go.
Miami versus Cal.
1523
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,600
Let's pull it up here.
Cal getting 10 points, Miami
1524
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,880
laying 10 points.
Brian, what are you doing before
1525
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:35,320
I get to make my pick on this
one?
1526
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,720
Hey, you know what, We're going
to have a good time.
1527
01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:42,200
We're going to we're going to
ride with OTT out there in in
1528
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,920
Berkeley and we're going to take
Cal.
1529
01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:48,440
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I am with you on
this.
1530
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,080
Cal is getting game day for the
first time.
1531
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,360
I think now there are only like
2 schools that have never gotten
1532
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,960
game day if I'm not right.
I know we're one of them, no?
1533
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,920
One of them and I feel like
there's one more, but I think
1534
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,920
Couch is too good of a team.
Like if, if y'all know Justin
1535
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,800
Wilcox.
Justin Wilcox is a good
1536
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,000
defensive minded head coach.
We sort of laid a little bit of
1537
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,320
a game plan of how to kind of
get a little funk in Miami.
1538
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:17,760
I think again, a 10/30 start
time that is.
1539
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:22,000
Man, it couldn't happen to a
better team.
1540
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,440
I'll say that.
But the ACC can't do that
1541
01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:26,520
bullshit.
Like the latest start should be
1542
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,680
830 when teams go out West.
We got lucky.
1543
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,360
Ours is at 3:30 in the
afternoon.
1544
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,360
Body clock's going to be fine.
But for them, I think it's I
1545
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,320
think they win, but I think 10
is just too much.
1546
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:42,200
Gimme Cal shell Moss.
It's a battle of woke versus
1547
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:48,200
coke game day in town.
The means will be crazy.
1548
01:21:48,440 --> 01:21:52,520
I cannot wait for this match up.
I will be conspicuously flying
1549
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:56,720
Twitter the the entire game, but
I'm taking I'm taking Cal.
1550
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:58,840
I think they'll be kind of, you
know, pumped up with Gambian
1551
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,000
town and a tough fight for
Miami.
1552
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:06,760
So give me, give me.
The Bears tally, yeah, man, I'm
1553
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:08,400
going to go Miami on this game,
man.
1554
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,800
You know, Ward spent a little
bit of time out there on the
1555
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,240
West Coast.
You know, he was carving people
1556
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:19,640
up on a on a not as good team.
So it's kind of going to be a
1557
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,600
where he was able to get on the
big stage at the beginning.
1558
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,000
So I feel like it's going to be
kind of a let me show out kind
1559
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,360
of game for him.
So I'm going to take Miami in
1560
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:32,840
this one.
All righty, Miranda rolls with
1561
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:38,000
us on Cal and Jason is riding
with Tally.
1562
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:39,640
Tally.
I'm sending something to you
1563
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,280
because if you ain't seen some
of those things created by some
1564
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,440
of these Cal accounts with the
quote versus coke.
1565
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,280
Oh yeah, I did Freaking
hilarious.
1566
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,920
Hilarious.
Hey man, the the.
1567
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,600
The Cal Twitter is.
Awesome.
1568
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:59,480
You got to you got to give them
their love because I mean, I
1569
01:22:59,480 --> 01:23:02,600
mean, it's, it's probably like
10 or 12 accounts that like
1570
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,000
really is really good stuff out
there.
1571
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,240
So.
I'm I'm going to say something
1572
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:09,560
real quick here, Josh Young talk
about not stopping tune.
1573
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:11,280
They aren't stopping, not
financial.
1574
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:14,880
Tune is a top 10 running back
right now in the country.
1575
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:21,360
So and I don't know, maybe maybe
he's really good, but tune's
1576
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,760
tune's legit right now.
All righty, all good too, huh?
1577
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,200
Odd is good too.
Oh yeah, he's good.
1578
01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,120
I don't know if he's Tooting
good, but he's good.
1579
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,640
He's good Tooting.
Good's tough.
1580
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,480
Sheldon, where you trying to
make some money?
1581
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,360
We're going to Louisville, KY.
I thought this would be a really
1582
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,120
good match up to pretty solid
teams.
1583
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,640
Got SMU coming in hot, big win
last week.
1584
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,840
I think though, they're going to
be on a little bit of a hangover
1585
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,360
and I think Louisville's going
to be motivated coming off a
1586
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:52,280
loss to Notre Dame.
So I've got Louisville taking
1587
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:55,680
this one.
All righty, did you lay the
1588
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,800
points?
I'm riding right there with with
1589
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:00,840
Shelton on this one.
I think Louisville is going to
1590
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,120
have a bounce back game in this
one.
1591
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:04,360
I think SMU is going to come
back to earth a little bit.
1592
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,480
I think this could be about a
about a 10 point Cardinal win
1593
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:11,640
here.
And I'm with y'all on that as
1594
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:13,520
well.
Give me Louisville.
1595
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:18,560
The over unders interested in
this one is at 56 where you like
1596
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:22,280
first quarter vibes.
He's going to tell if it's going
1597
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,560
to hit the 56 and over because
these two teams do have heavy
1598
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:31,880
offensive minded head coaches.
So if you are at 2017 to 21
1599
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:35,800
points, take the second quarter,
try to catch the over under,
1600
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,640
which at that point in time
it'll probably be like 65, take
1601
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,120
it.
If it's over 70, don't take it.
1602
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:48,280
If it's under 707065, take it.
Sorry, Gambling Valley.
1603
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,360
Yeah, now I'm taking Louisville
in this one as well.
1604
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,880
But besides this game, what is
what is going on with Florida
1605
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,240
State?
What's going on with Florida
1606
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:04,200
State, man?
3 letters. 3 letters.
1607
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,640
What the ACC?
No, they suck balls.
1608
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:13,600
I mean what what is eju?
That is their problem.
1609
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:18,840
Literally that is if they would
just put in Brock Lynn.
1610
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,840
I think they would at worst be
like 3 and two.
1611
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:27,080
Right now they look pitiful.
I mean, it's looking like Jordan
1612
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,800
Travis covered up a whole lot of
holes in that offense,
1613
01:25:30,440 --> 01:25:32,120
especially with that offensive
line.
1614
01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:37,280
So I mean, it's really, I think
that and what they lost on
1615
01:25:37,440 --> 01:25:39,360
defense has been a really bad
combo for them.
1616
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,600
Yeah, you know what's funny?
Florida State analytically has
1617
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:45,240
the best special teams in the
country.
1618
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,320
That's how.
But that's how that's how bad
1619
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,400
their offense is that their
their special team is so good,
1620
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,400
evens a solid and they're 14
like.
1621
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,800
That's crazy.
Miranda goes Louisville, Jason
1622
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,800
goes.
We are all laying 7 points
1623
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:02,840
riding with Louisville.
Hey, that's, that's the first
1624
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,880
one everybody's riding with,
with one team across the board
1625
01:26:05,880 --> 01:26:08,040
there, so.
That's the first one tonight.
1626
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:11,160
That is the first one tonight.
You don't want to know.
1627
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:13,120
The White VIX says that right
there.
1628
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,200
Yeah.
They had to kind of do it.
1629
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:21,080
Coral can be very volatile.
Yeah and just real quick before
1630
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:25,080
we click the tallies pick, just
so y'all know Jason has been
1631
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:29,000
wanting to pick FSU all year so
we can play that song.
1632
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:33,560
Yeah, but you ain't getting to
play it this year, buddy it.
1633
01:26:35,480 --> 01:26:37,520
Might be a long.
It might be a long while.
1634
01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:41,200
Tally, where are you taking us
for Saturday with some gambling,
1635
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,720
man.
I think we're going and checking
1636
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:49,520
out A&M and Mizzou.
Think it's going to be a pretty
1637
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:54,000
competitive game.
I would say, though, I mean,
1638
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,800
I've watched both teams play in
this state.
1639
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,720
They both got two good teams,
but I think Mizzou is going to
1640
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:03,720
take this game out right.
Yeah, I'm riding with Mizzou as
1641
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:08,880
well there Tally.
I, I, you know, A&M has been
1642
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:13,200
kind of a conundrum.
I think Mizzou has got a little
1643
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:15,160
bit of a wake up call with a
couple games here.
1644
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,920
I think they would come out
focused and I think A&M just not
1645
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:22,800
going to have enough at the end.
All right, I, I am fading y'all
1646
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:28,840
to right there because I do
believe that Texas A&M was going
1647
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,200
to win this game.
I've seen as you play a couple
1648
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,400
Times Now, they they, I'm not
saying they they're not a good
1649
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,080
team, but go to the Boston
College game.
1650
01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:41,680
That was a game go to the
Vanderbilt.
1651
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:42,840
They should have lost to
Vanderbilt.
1652
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:44,920
There is not even a question.
They should have lost to
1653
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,840
Vanderbilt.
And I think going down to Kyle
1654
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,360
Field, I think it's going to be
loud.
1655
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:51,840
I think A&M is kind of finding
their groove.
1656
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,760
Elko we know is a good coach.
I'll lay two points.
1657
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,400
I'll take the home team.
I think it's I think this could
1658
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,480
be like a fun game this weekend
to watch.
1659
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:03,000
I don't know what time it is on.
I'll look it up.
1660
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:05,360
Hopefully not 3:30 because I
don't get to really enjoy it,
1661
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,640
but I think it could be a super
entertaining game on Saturday.
1662
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,080
Sheldon.
I took Missouri, although in
1663
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,320
hindsight I feel like they're
kind of due for a loss, so maybe
1664
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:15,880
I shouldn't have done that.
But you know what?
1665
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,200
We'll stick with it.
Vibes.
1666
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:22,240
Vibes Valley, Missouri Miranda,
Missouri.
1667
01:28:22,480 --> 01:28:25,920
The Music Man is riding with me
tonight.
1668
01:28:26,440 --> 01:28:28,480
All right.
Our wonderful contributing
1669
01:28:28,480 --> 01:28:36,400
writer Miranda is taking us down
to Columbia where Ole Miss comes
1670
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:40,440
in after a loss, which was a
physical football loss to
1671
01:28:40,440 --> 01:28:43,400
Kentucky last week.
Kentucky can slow down some
1672
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:45,480
offenses, y'all.
They made Georgia, Kentucky.
1673
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,640
That's that's all the team, man.
Yeah, but they gave up thirty to
1674
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:51,640
South Carolina.
Make that make sense.
1675
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:54,840
Ole Miss going there laying 9
1/2.
1676
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:56,840
Brian, where you taking on this
one?
1677
01:28:57,800 --> 01:28:59,600
I'm riding with Ole Miss on this
one.
1678
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:03,080
I'm still not a believer in
what's going on down there in
1679
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:07,360
Columbia.
I don't think that this South
1680
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,280
Carolina team is going to be
able to match what's going to be
1681
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:13,040
a pissed off Ole Miss team after
the way that game went down.
1682
01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:19,000
And that's exactly why I am on
board with you to lay 9 1/2.
1683
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,520
It's the Lane Kiffin get slowed
down the next game he going to
1684
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:26,560
put at least 45 up and I do not
think South Carolina has that
1685
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,480
offense to stay within 10
points.
1686
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,160
Sheldon.
Well, you guys know me at this
1687
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,760
point, one of my biggest
philosophies I like taking teams
1688
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,400
are coming in pissed off.
And you know Ole Miss is pissed
1689
01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:38,520
off after what happened last
week.
1690
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,080
So I'm taking the Rebels big
time.
1691
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,800
Yeah, I mean I mean y'all have
already said it.
1692
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,880
You're going to have a pissed
off old piss.
1693
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:52,120
So that's what I'm taking.
Yeah, forget them.
1694
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:55,800
I don't like them either.
There we go.
1695
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,360
Oh.
My God is picking Ole Miss as
1696
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,840
well and Jason.
Fade in the pod.
1697
01:30:02,440 --> 01:30:10,360
Fade.
Oh my goodness.
1698
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,520
All righty.
Well, let's finally, we finally
1699
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:15,360
get here as we do it through one
of the big screeners every week.
1700
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:20,360
And our wonderful music man,
Jason Long, who has joined us so
1701
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:24,720
lovingly in the chat tonight, is
going up to Minnesota for the
1702
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:28,040
Trojans and the Gophers.
Wait till you hear this.
1703
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,200
Welcome back to guitar licks and
gambling picks.
1704
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:51,680
I'm Jason Long.
Don't know if you notice I'm a
1705
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:55,240
little bit of a loose streak.
I've lost two in a row and no
1706
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:57,080
favorites.
So this week I'm.
1707
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:03,600
Taking a dog, the USC.
They traveling back to the
1708
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,800
Midwest two weeks ago.
I lost money when they went to
1709
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,320
Michigan.
I don't plan on making the same
1710
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:10,360
mistake.
Twice.
1711
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,160
This time they're going to
Minnesota.
1712
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:17,880
Now the Golden Gophers.
They've been a little bit up.
1713
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:21,040
And down this season.
But they're getting 10 1/2
1714
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,440
points at home.
That feels like a little bit too
1715
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:26,680
much for me, so I'm going
Minnesota against.
1716
01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:34,520
US.
Nothing caution.
1717
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:42,040
Sorrow.
Nothing caution.
1718
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:54,040
Hold on.
One times it's happening.
1719
01:31:54,040 --> 01:32:01,800
Hold on to see.
Him out in the rain.
1720
01:32:02,440 --> 01:32:09,600
Herbal rain.
Purple rain in the rain.
1721
01:32:36,440 --> 01:32:37,680
So let's get back on the winning
track.
1722
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,600
Let's go Minnesota.
Let's go Hokies.
1723
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:44,880
See you next week.
There we go.
1724
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,440
Buddy, I feel like it's 2003
again.
1725
01:32:48,440 --> 01:32:51,320
We are in his apartment drinking
all sorts of concoctions.
1726
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:54,240
Hey, are are we going to get a
cease and desist on this one?
1727
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:55,520
I don't know.
We might.
1728
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,920
That'd be cool.
So, so the the story goes is
1729
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:01,000
Jason did a cover.
I think it's a little red
1730
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:02,800
Corvette, right?
Little red Corvette.
1731
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:06,320
Another wonderful Prince song.
And by the way, if you're
1732
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,880
wondering why he did Prince, for
y'all who are uneducated, Prince
1733
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,280
is from Minneapolis, MN, the
home of the Golden Gophers.
1734
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:15,160
There we go.
But he did this on a little
1735
01:33:15,160 --> 01:33:19,120
localized CDI.
Don't know how many he sold.
1736
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:21,560
I had one, Brian had one.
We all were his boys.
1737
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:25,440
We, we gave the money.
We, we, he got a cease of desist
1738
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:29,600
letter from Prince's attorneys
basically saying don't be that
1739
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:31,520
shit anymore.
It is framed.
1740
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:33,640
I don't know where it is.
I'm surprised he didn't bring it
1741
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:40,440
up, but that goes to the story.
Never forget that, Never forget
1742
01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:44,200
that.
In this one, I mean, you know,
1743
01:33:44,440 --> 01:33:49,200
Minnesota 10 1/2.
I, I got to take them points,
1744
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:52,320
man.
Let me get Minnesota here.
1745
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:56,320
I think it's going to be a, you
know, 7-8 point win for the
1746
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,400
Trojans, but I think Minnesota's
going to keep an interest in
1747
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:01,520
there at the end.
I am with you on this.
1748
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,600
Give me Minnesota.
Minnesota got screwed if y'all
1749
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,320
didn't see the end of that
Michigan game.
1750
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,280
They recovered that punt.
They recovered that onside kick.
1751
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:14,840
They were not all sides and they
had the momentum going and 10
1752
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:20,400
1/2 points, I know USC can be
good, but 10 1/2 too much delay
1753
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:24,760
them coming back east.
You know why y'all go ahead
1754
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:26,840
about it?
I wonder what the weather's up
1755
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:30,920
there going to be on Saturday.
So who you got next, Sheldon?
1756
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:33,400
Sheldon.
What you got?
1757
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,480
Minnesota continuing with my
pissed off last week, they did.
1758
01:34:36,520 --> 01:34:37,920
They did get screwed against
Michigan.
1759
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:39,880
They've lost two straight.
I think they're going to bounce
1760
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,040
back, at least to the extent
that they will cover.
1761
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:48,040
Tally, What do you say, man?
All right, give me USC, man.
1762
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:53,360
I'm going to take USC in this
one just because I knew y'all
1763
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,360
was picking Minnesota and I want
to be difficult.
1764
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,280
It's kind of.
I got to score some points
1765
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,040
somewhere.
Yeah, it's kind of like a fourth
1766
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,280
and three man.
I mean, I'm the little brother.
1767
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,400
I'm on, I'm on.
I ain't going to line up and
1768
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,600
run.
I'm on do a fake field goal.
1769
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:16,600
So USCUSCUSC random.
And obviously, our music man
1770
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,640
Jason Long, is also riding.
With the Gophers.
1771
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:23,520
Now before I go into this I am
wondering how USC is going to
1772
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:27,000
handle the weather.
They are playing this game at
1773
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:31,920
night and it's going to be like
4850�� with a little 15 mile an
1774
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,720
hour breeze.
Southern California boys in the
1775
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:39,840
Midwest on a October night.
It could be interesting.
1776
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:42,880
I mean, that's it would be like
they don't, they don't see 50 in
1777
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:47,040
December out there.
So there you go, There you go.
1778
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,040
There's all.
The rundown Who did good?
1779
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:52,400
Who did bad?
Who you riding with on this
1780
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,520
weekend?
I like, I like my picks.
1781
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,800
You know, Missouri's the only
one that I'm really kind of, I
1782
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,800
could have went either way.
On everything else I feel pretty
1783
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:07,000
good about.
The only one I like question is
1784
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:10,480
I'm tempted.
I was tempted to go Miami with
1785
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:15,400
the pissed off mindset of they
barely escaped, let's go prove a
1786
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,000
point.
That's the only one I'm kind of
1787
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:19,200
question.
The other ones I feel good
1788
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:23,920
about.
All right, gentlemen, anything
1789
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,720
else popping up to the last
hour?
1790
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:28,480
And hey, look at that, an hour
and 30 minutes.
1791
01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:30,160
We ain't done that in a.
Few weeks.
1792
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,040
Hey, you know what?
We, we, we got it tight, now we
1793
01:36:35,040 --> 01:36:36,520
got it tight.
Got it tight.
1794
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:40,240
We, we all of our, all of our
outbursts are gone.
1795
01:36:40,240 --> 01:36:42,920
We're we're in full mid season
mode now.
1796
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,320
Like we're out, we're out of
the, we're out of the funk.
1797
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:47,600
We actually had a game where we
didn't have to talk about what
1798
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:51,840
went bad for 30 minutes.
No, we did.
1799
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,960
Oh, jinx it. touch��, Oh, jinx
it.
1800
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,160
All righty.
Well, that is going to wrap up
1801
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,280
this episode of the Boundary
Corner Podcast, brought to you
1802
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,040
by Count Stanley Pharmacy in
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1803
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,520
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1804
01:37:07,480 --> 01:37:09,920
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1805
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1806
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1807
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1808
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1810
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1811
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1812
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1816
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1819
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1821
01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,160
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1822
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:12,760
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1823
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1825
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1826
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