Week Nine

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Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary

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Corner Podcast, a part of the
College Huddle Network along

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with my partners, Brian Siegler,
Jonathan Talley and Shelton

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Moss.
I am Curtis Wilson and this

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episode is brought to you by
Doctor Jeremy Counts down at the

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Counts Family Pharmacy, your
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located three O 1 S Main St. in
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Buddy, it's going to be a fun
night tonight.

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We got a few, few guests on and
we're going to lead off with our

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first one tonight.
I know everyone has been excited

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about the the pyramid.
We've seen all the 1999

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comments, that's awesome.
But tonight we're going to have

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on the kind of the brainchild
behind this.

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It's Taylor and Mel Chrisman
with Press * Packaging and

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Creative Karting joining us to
talk a little bit more about

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that.
So let's go ahead and bring them

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on here.
Taylor, Mel, how you doing

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tonight?
Hey, we're good.

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How are you guys?
Doing great, doing great.

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Thanks for jumping on.
Just to kind of kick it off, you

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know, I think everyone's excited
about this.

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Tell us a little bit about how
this got started and a little

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bit of the history of the goal
post and and how this this

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venture came to be.
Yeah, so I was 12 years old and

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we were at that game, a whole
family.

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And, you know, we watched the
the goal posts go down and

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everyone going crazy.
And my dad just kind of looked

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at my mom and he was like, we
got to get that goal post.

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We, we got to do something with
it.

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I don't know what, but we got to
do something with it.

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And by some crazy stroke of
luck, my dad had a mutual friend

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with Frank Beamer.
And they got to talk in And

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Frank was like, hey, I got a
piece of it, Bring your truck.

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And so my dad went back.
It was about a about a week

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later.
And sure enough, there was the

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18 foot crossbar and they loaded
it up, hauled it out and they

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got the idea to cut it up into
little one inch squares here and

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put it in a little acrylic
pyramid.

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So you just, you know, you can
hang it up on your wall and just

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look at it or whatever you want
to do.

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That's awesome.
That's awesome.

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And so this is kind of the I
guess the second run of that.

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I know you guys did the, the
first run there a little bit

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after the game after you came
across the, the goal posts there

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in 99.
So what was the, the idea like

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just 25th anniversary or like
it's, it's time to it's time to,

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to, to run it back a little bit
and, and, and see what we can,

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can do this go round.
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So it is the 25th anniversary of
that undefeated season.

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And we know that there's so much
nostalgia kind of building right

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now.
We're definitely kind of in a

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new era with Virginia Tech
football.

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And I think everybody, I mean,
everybody's really been talking

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about, you know, it's come up a
lot, the 25th anniversary of the

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undefeated season.
So we thought why not

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commemorate that and do another
version of the pyramid.

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So so that was kind of the idea
behind re redoing it or

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releasing like a whole new set.
Yeah, and it's really cool.

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I mean, when you look at it, I
mean, I love the obviously the

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celebrating the 25th anniversary
and, and the, and the iconic

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iconography in there is really
cool.

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And obviously getting the, you
know, the piece of that goal

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post is, is, is huge.
And when we look at the fact

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that I think just in recent, you
know, years here, you know, I

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think we've seen the 99 team
celebrated a whole lot more.

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You know, you get Michael Vick
back on campus a lot more the

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last couple years.
He was there this past Thursday.

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So I mean, it's really awesome
to kind of see things come

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together, especially considering
that, you know, when we look

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back at that, that 20th
anniversary, it wasn't quite as

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celebrated in the way I think a
lot of fans and, and football

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alumni thought it should have
been.

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So it, it's it's awesome that
you guys are doing this and kind

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of bringing some attention to
that.

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And I think, you know, just that
whole groundswell about that

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team has been been pretty big
this year.

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Yeah, absolutely.
Let's ask this, Amel, you said

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you were there in 1999 at that
game, obviously, and your dad

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was like, let's get the goal
posts.

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But obviously if you were there
for that game, you were there

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for a lot more.
Taylor, I know you're a big fan

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as well.
So go back to 1999.

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You're 12 years old.
What was like the game for you?

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Was that the game or was there
something else in the season

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where it was like this team
special?

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And I am.
You're at the age of where like,

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I'm going to remember this
forever.

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Yeah, it we, it was actually our
first year having season tickets

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was that year my parents knew,
you know, I think the whole, the

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whole fan base knew it could be,
could be a pretty special

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something, but I don't think
anyone knew exactly what was

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coming.
And that was quite a, quite the

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year to pick to, to start season
tickets.

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But you know, you always have
one of those things where

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something happens and you no
matter what, you always remember

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exactly where you were when it
happened.

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And it was the West Virginia
game for us.

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It was an away game.
And of all the, the craziness,

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we were like, we, we got to get
out, out of the house.

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Can't watch the game for a
minute.

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Let's take a break.
And we were out and my mom was

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listening on her her yellow
Walkman headphones right when

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when Mike took it down the field
and then Shane hit that field

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goal.
That was one of those things

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that just seared in my mind and
that that did it for me, that

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West Virginia game.
I, I feel like everyone has a, a

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miracle in Morgantown story,
like everybody, everybody that's

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a tech fan remembers what they
were doing, who they were with

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when that moment happened, just
because of the, the, the stakes

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that were at play for what the
Hokies could potentially be that

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year.
And I feel like, you know, that

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drive kind of encapsulated the,
the, the fighting spirit of, of

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that team that year, because
they, not all those games were

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pretty right?
Like there were, there were some

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blowouts, but not all those
games are pretty.

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It was a, it was a, it was a
hard fought game in, in, in that

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particular instance.
And you know, like I said, I

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think I think all of us hockey
fans remember where we were when

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we saw that drive take place.
And funny enough, I was on the

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hill at UVA in Charlottesville
because I was playing high

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school football at the time and
my head coach was a big UVA fan.

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So we were watching UVA, Georgia
Tech.

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They're on the hill because he
took, he took all of us for like

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an end of season trip down there
and they put it up on the

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screen.
They put the, the, the West

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Virginia Tech game up on the
screen.

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And so that all these UVA fans
are like pulling for West

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Virginia here.
And there's like a a bunch of us

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on our our team that are hokey
fans that just happened to be

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there with our coach and we're,
you know, talking trash there on

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the hill.
And yeah, sweating bullets a

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little bit there until the end.
But once, once, once, once it

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happened.
There was a whole lot of fun

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trash talking there on the hill
that day.

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Oh yeah.
Tally what you got.

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And I'm just sitting back trying
to figure out how I can get my

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hands on one of them here me.
It's about paying for it.

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I'm trying to figure out how to
do that.

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I know some people's been asking
in the some people's been asking

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in the in the chat how they can
get it.

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Curtis, you want to tell them
how they can get their hands on

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it or Brian I'll.
Go ahead and tell you where

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y'all can get it.
If you go to the Boundary Corner

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Podcast vt.com website under
Goal Post pyramid it links you

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directly in to the creative
carting.com where you can

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purchase it right there.
It is one or $199, $0.90, the

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perfect 1999 there.
So y'all definitely can go there

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to get it.
But Mel and Taylor have been so

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nice to actually we're giving
one away.

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If y'all have not noticed there
has been more than one time.

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If we take a look here, there
are a lot of 1990 nines being

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pulled up.
So Mel and Taylor, I don't know

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if y'all had a chance to listen
last week, but what we are doing

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is starting last week, this week
and next week's episode, we are

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about everything or you can just
put what some of these wonderful

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David Tibb Levar 1999 You have

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You can do it on the the the the

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Recorder pulling in the live

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To So pretty simple.

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Pretty simple.
I mean, one click, a couple of

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clicks, hang out with us, watch
Curtis drink a little beer,

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watch Sheldon do some cussing.
You know that's name stuff that

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we do all week.
All you got to do is put 1999 in

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the chat, subscribe and hang out
with us for a little bit.

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And you got your opportunity to
win A to win one of the one of

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the pyramids, which is awesome,
man, just to see it, the how

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it's made, what it looks like to
have a piece of history in any

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man cave or woman she shed,
whatever you want to call it.

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Just any sports fan would love
to get their hands on it.

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And again, if you got it like
that, just go to the website and

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buy it, which is probably what I
have to do because I don't think

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they're going to rig it for me
to win.

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I've tried behind the scenes to
get them to read it for me to

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win.
So I'm probably just going to

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have to go buy it.
Tally you don't have like 3 or 4

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burners on YouTube.
I, I, I've tried it, I've tried

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it.
That's the one we're.

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Going to get real suspicious if
it wanted burners win.

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I see Bama Hokey 69.
I'm not putting that in there.

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My problem is I like to talk too
much.

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So when I start talking on the,
yeah, when I start talking on

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the on the burners is when
people's like, Oh yeah, we

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already know that voice.
We know where that is.

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So.
Sheldon, you got anything to ask

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before?
I've got a couple more questions

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I want to ask Mel and Mel and
Taylor here.

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No, no, man, I just, I just
think it's great that we're,

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we're kind of preserving this,
this piece of history.

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I know we did it for the, for
some seats in, in Castle

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Coliseum where they they took
some seats out and then they

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kind of sold them off.
So I just, I think it's great.

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I can't wait until we beat
Clemson in November and then we

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can tear it on the goal posts
and throw it in the duck pond.

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And then 20 years from now,
we'll be we'll be auctioning off

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pieces from the Clemson goal
post.

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So I like it.
I like.

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It so so let me ask this right
now, obviously both y'all being

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fans and everything.
Any interactions with the

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current coaching staff and just
where they stand or and also who

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is your favorite Hokie?
We we all have different

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favorite Hokies on this.
So I'd just love to hear a

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little bit more about how you
feel about the new coach staff

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plus who you're I random the
double.

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Tie in the double tie in by
Robbie there with.

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Respect.
I'm, I'm a fan of the new

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coaching staff still.
I, I think they're the ones that

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they're trying and we're, we're
starting to see it.

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Things are coming together.
They're rounding out like I I

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was watching the last week in
the Shelton year breakdown of

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how Kyron is getting better and
better, especially through the

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intermediate.
Let's go, let's go.

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That that summed it up to me,
the.

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Whole the whole question.
Staff.

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Summed it up to me that we're,
we're starting to really take

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strides to get to where we all
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So yeah, I'm a fan.
I think.

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I think we're going in the right
the right direction for sure.

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Yeah, that it's exciting.
I think it's exciting time for

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everybody and I think, you know,
hiccups to to start the year

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aside, I think we're starting to
see this team round into what we

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thought they could be and, and
hit that level of play that that

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we expected.
And it's it's exciting because

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you know, we talked about it
before we jumped on here.

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I've talked about it with
Sheldon a few times, with Curtis

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and Tally a few times.
You know, everything that we

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still wanted from a beginning of
the year goal is still, you

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know, in play and we we just got
to go out there and take care of

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business.
So it's, it's exciting and, and

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to Sheldon's point, you know,
let's go out and beat Clemson

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and have another goal post to
talk about.

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Yes, Sir, Can't wait.
Definitely.

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Hey, one question I got for you
guys is where where y'all at

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right now?
Mel and and Taylor like wait,

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where y'all at?
What?

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Oh, so we're in Christiansburg,
VA, So we're like 10 minutes

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away from Virginia.
Oh, wait, like where are we at?

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Like located like geography.
I'm just saying like what room

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are y'all in right now?
I just see the I see the, I see

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the wind, I see the wind flag in
the back.

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So I'm trying to see who's got
this, who's got this cool room

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that y'all are sitting in this?
Is our dining room.

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Yeah.
We're not pretenders.

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We are.
We are die hard tech.

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Yeah, Are they real?
Oh, they they real.

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Hey, you got a wind flag sitting
in the dining room.

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Hey, you are winning in life.
That ain't just a flag.

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Hey.
Let's let's throw it up there.

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Typically we have it in our gym
and it's it's a pretty sick gym

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and it's got lots of Virginia
Tech memorabilia in there.

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So, you know, inspirational.
There we go.

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Very nice and there.
Is Jason likes what he sees,

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does like?
What he sees right there, right

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there.
So before we just wrap this up

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again, we want to again, thank
you all for not only taking a

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few minutes out of your evening.
We understand everybody works.

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Everybody's got things they've
got to do.

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But we also want to say thank
you for like unleashing this

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back to the Virginia Tech fan
base, giving us the opportunity

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to give it away.
And I don't know what else to

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say.
I'm I'm with Shelton.

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It's like that Clemson Yang
needs to be coming.

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Take it, take a piece, tuck it
in the duck pong.

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Now, Mel and Taylor, I don't
know how y'all are going to get

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it, but if that happens, Mel,
you're going to, y'all are going

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to have to like go get the truck
that night because I, I don't

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think it's going to be sitting
in Lane Stadium or sitting at

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the duck pond long.
I don't think so either.

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Yeah, you better be.
Camped out, I agree.

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And, and, and that'd be too
Curtis's point, just yeah, thank

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you for being good stewards of
this piece of memorabilia for

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over the years and just, you
know, bringing it back and

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giving it back to to the hokey
fans that will take good care of

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and cherish it.
No, nobody deserves it more than

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the the hokey fan base.
We've been up, we've been down

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and there's a lot that have been
there the whole time.

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So yeah, fanbase deserves
everything like this I can get.

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Yeah.
And honestly, we've had stories

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since we released this, like, I
was there.

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I really wanted to, like, touch
that goal post.

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And, you know, they were like,
too far away or they just

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weren't kind of like in the
fray.

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But we've had people say that
was like, my favorite memory

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ever.
And to be able to, like, own a

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piece of it is pretty cool.
They can just look at it and

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remember, you know, that they
were there.

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And I, I do think it's, it's a,
it's such a special moment that

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I think a lot of people
remember.

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Yeah, I mean, for a lot of
people, it is kind of the

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pinnacle of, you know, what
hokey football has achieved in

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in most of our lifetime.
So I mean, it's really it it

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it's absolutely a piece of
history.

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And again, just, you know,
thanks for sharing the love

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here.
Thank you guys.

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Yeah.
Thank you guys for what you do.

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Yeah.
Yep.

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We appreciate it guys.
And again, if you want to know

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where to get that, go to the
boundary corner website goal

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post pyramid if you just want to
purchase 1 outright and then

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flaunt it to those who don't
win.

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And like listen, I just bucked
up the money and just paid for

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it 19990.
And again, if you want to see it

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just so y'all can see how
passionate it is, we are like

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when we start this, we just get
flooded with 90 nines out of

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everywhere.
So it's pretty sweet.

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And again, we appreciate y'all
partnering up with us on this

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and hopefully in the very near
future we can all catch you,

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catch up with each other down in
Blacksburg at Lane Stadium, we'd

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love.
That.

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Awesome, well y'all take care
and y'all have a good evening.

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Thank you.
Thanks.

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Guys.
See y'all.

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Thank y'all.
So cool.

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It's just so cool.
I mean, there's no more another

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way to say it.
It's just cool to know that is

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there.
Tally, just tell your wife

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that's what you want for
Christmas.

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She'll get it for you and you
know.

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You can put it right over your
shoulder there next to the

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bottle of liquor.
Right there.

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Yeah, we see.
It and that's a good I think

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that's a good place for it I
think that's a good place for it

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yeah I got a couple of spots I
think I can I can I can put it

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up in it around the house so I
mean 'cause that actually looks

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a little bit elegant you know
what I'm saying 'cause you got

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the nice glass to go on it it
doesn't look like a mini helmet

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you know what I'm saying like a
lot of the stuff that I have

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but.
Hey don't don't trash the mini

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helmets.
Though I love mini helmets

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though.
I got plenty man, I love mini.

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He's just saying he can put that
in the living room and.

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Wait, I can put that in the
living room, man, I can put that

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like right on the mantle or.
Something it's pretty all right.

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Well, boys, we got a lot to
break down tonight.

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We are going to be talking with
a special guest from the rec

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tech, right?
I get that right.

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Rick talk, Rick.
Talk.

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I can't spell the nightmare.
Talk with Know the enemy.

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What?
What?

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Kind of shirt you got on, man.
Y'all know what I got on?

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So in case y'all were wondering
and y'all paid attention way

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back in May, we asked Coach Pry.
Well.

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Tally asked on behalf of
everybody.

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Coach, we love the shirts.
Can you send them to us?

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And y'all, they didn't, they
didn't they didn't skimp on it.

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They sent all of us the hunger
drills shirts I had to wear.

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It's now the perfect time of
year for this shirt.

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It's nice light.
It's a perfect for a fall night.

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I had to bring it out tonight.
I mean, it's just a sick shirt,

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so.
Curtis, you're getting called

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out already, man.
Sorry, sorry Rex.

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Sorry man, I completely spelled
it wrong in a rundown.

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I'm very sorry.
So you can you can land basement

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when you get in here.
So don't worry, Curtis messes up

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names all the time.
Oh yeah, don't take it all.

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Righty well, we got that later
on, but let's start with Tell

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the Truth Tuesday with a massive
victory of the BC 4221 on

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Thursday night and I'm going to
go through here real quick on

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some things we said.
First of all, Shelton Moss said.

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We have to embrace Thursday
night.

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Shelton did this team, the
coaching staff and the fans

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embrace Thursday night.
Absolutely one of the most

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historic rushing performances
we've ever seen from Mahokey,

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with Bashawk Tooten setting the
single game record-breaking

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Darren Darren Edmonton's record
APR with another 4 sack banger

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put up 42 points.
You know, you give up, I mean

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you give up three turnovers and
still win by 21.

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I mean that's, you know, that's
about all you can ask for.

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And we took the the all time
lead and most wins on Thursday

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night with our 25th win since
1994, more than any other team

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in the country.
So back in sole possession of

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Thursday night.
So it is officially our nights

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and nobody else's.
There we go.

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We embraced it.
Jonathan Talley, you said we

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needed to limit Tommy
Castellanos legs.

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Did we limit that man's legs?
Yeah, we turned Castellanos into

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a castaway.
He was out of him.

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He was cast off fumbling the
ball.

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I don't know if he's still hurt.
I mean, I hope nobody's hurt,

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but you know, fumbling the ball,
seeing ghosts getting hit,

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chasing him around, APR on his
head like a toupee.

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I mean, it was a good night.
In his face, on the sideline.

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It was a good night, man.
It was just, I mean, you seen a

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lot of great performances.
But again, back to what Curtis

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said, talking about my key to
performance was limit his, limit

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his legs, and I think he may
have had like 58 yards on 20

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carries.
So I'll take that, you know.

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I'll take that as long as it was
18.

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So you do the math.
It's even worse after that.

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Brian Siegler, you said get off
the field on money downs and I

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think we did that pretty good.
Yeah, especially in the first

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half, I think they only had two
conversions in the first half.

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Really good job overall from for
throughout the game they're

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getting off on money downs and
to that point, a lot of getting

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off the field on money downs is
Tally's point there of limit

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what Castellanos does with his
legs.

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He was not scrambling that well.
We did a good job of containing

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them, keeping in the pocket,
getting them down.

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We needed to and the, you know,
the results speak for

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themselves, I think. 100% and
mine was just finish, finish,

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finish, finish.
We talked about BC allowing Sax

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and APR 8 all night, 4 sacks,
his 3rd 4th sack game of his

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career here at Virginia Tech 2
this season.

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And then in the offensive side
of the ball, touchdowns, not

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field goals.
You know how many times we went

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in the red zone Thursday night?
How many how many times 4 did we

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kick any field goals?
Nope, 4 touchdowns.

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And as we talked about it,
though, they were not a shabby

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red zone defense.
They had only given up five

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touchdowns all season in the red
zone.

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We damn near got to that number
Thursday night.

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So we told the truth about what
our keys were and we talked

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about what went well.
Sheldon already hit it up

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Tooting breaking the Rush game
record 18 carries for 266.

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Insane that.
Is sick.

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I'm telling you, but that's what
I'll say.

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I think we talked about this a
couple of weeks ago and I was

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like, or even I can't remember
if we talked about it on here.

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We posted on Twitter some, some
happened, but we talked about

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getting him the ball more.
I mean, since the beginning of

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the year, getting him the ball,
letting him fill the game.

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Like the offense has to go
through him.

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And it looked like they decided
that, OK, that's what we need to

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do.
Let's, let's get the ball in our

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playmaker's hands.
And he, he showed up and showed

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out.
And again, you know, like I

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said, for whatever reason, some
people were saying, well, it's

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BC.
Well, I remember at the

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beginning of the season, people
tab BC to be the ACC winners

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after they beat Florida State.
And you know, they were, I mean,

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they took Missouri to the to
the, to the brink of a, a win.

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And people thought, Oh, they're
going to kill us.

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And then once we beat them, it's
like, oh, it's BC.

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No, that's a good team.
You know, they had, they had to,

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they had the sack leader on
their team or he was tied for

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second when we played them.
But again, we showed up and

443
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,120
showed out so and we did it in
orange.

444
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,280
Go ahead.
Hey.

445
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,320
Orange he looked quicker without
the brace.

446
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,760
Hey Sheldon, though, we we got
to give Tootin a lot of credit.

447
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,200
But you've been saying all year
about the offensive line and and

448
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,000
you and you dug up the stat
earlier.

449
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,000
I think actually a couple days
ago is when I asked you about it

450
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,440
and y'all if, if, if what
sheldon's about to tell you

451
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,920
continues to happen.
The Sky's the limit for Basil

452
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,760
Tootin this year.
So typically what what I like to

453
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,880
do to evaluate offensive line
play is look at the percentage

454
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,800
of yards before and after
contact, just to see how you

455
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,640
know how how far it is up field
that a running back can get

456
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,200
before it gets touched by a
defender.

457
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,960
So, you know, coming to the
game, Tech was not very good at

458
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,720
yards before contact per rush.
I think they were 108th, if I'm

459
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:28,760
not mistaken in the country.
And so, but that totally turned

460
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,640
around against BC.
So against the Eagles, 6060% of

461
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,040
text rushing guards on designed
attempts came before contact.

462
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,720
That was by far the highest
percent percentage of the

463
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,680
season.
It was like 25% above their next

464
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,520
best performance and on a per
rush average is about 5.7.

465
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,040
So, you know, we saw on Tune's
80 yard touchdown run in the

466
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,640
second quarter, he was not
touched at all.

467
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,800
I mean, the only time he got
touched was, you know, when he

468
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,720
was in the end zone and that
that, you know, that the

469
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,240
defender was trailing after him
trying to swipe the ball away.

470
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,120
But I just, I thought that Olin
did a great job blocking and I

471
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:03,320
felt like it was the first time
all year where Tune was able to

472
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,120
get to the second level on such
a consistent basis.

473
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,720
And once he's at the second
level, man, like it's a wrap.

474
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,240
Like he can, he can make you
miss, you know, he can just, you

475
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,120
know, run, run right around you.
Like he's a tough guy to stop

476
00:25:14,120 --> 00:25:16,600
once he once he gets past that,
that first level.

477
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,920
So I thought it was by far the
best performance of the season

478
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,920
for the online.
It wasn't like tune carrying

479
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,280
their show.
It was a complete team

480
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,360
performance.
Guys are making their blocks.

481
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,240
The Moore brothers were awesome.
Xavier Chaplin had another

482
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,520
awesome performance.
I highlighted him on Twitter.

483
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,560
Just all around fantastic
performance in terms of

484
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,960
blocking.
If you can get Shelton.

485
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:40,800
If you can get Shelton to make a
highlight tape for a offensive

486
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,720
lineman, he doing so that
offensive lineman is doing some

487
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,640
work.
But I've seen Curtis, I didn't

488
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,080
mean to cut you off.
I've seen Steven put a put a a

489
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,000
post up and said, you know, both
of those big runs were on

490
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,280
chaplain's side.
Got to go back and watch that

491
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,080
tape because get to know 79
Johnny Garrett on one of those

492
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,640
big runs, he was the one who
wrapped in the hole and and

493
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,760
cleared cleared the trash.
So Chaplin's doing an awesome

494
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,960
job, but we also got some young
lineman that have stepped up and

495
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,800
started doing their jobs as
well.

496
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,200
So Garrett definitely made that
big run happen.

497
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,760
Johnny Garrett got about 20
snaps.

498
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,840
Brody Meadows got about 20
snaps.

499
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,880
We're seeing it build for next
year.

500
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,200
And Sheldon, I think you might
have tweeted this out of Brian.

501
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,720
Maybe you did.
Chaplin was the PFFO lineman

502
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,720
again this week, like the entire
country, the highest graded guy

503
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,200
all week.
Chaplain is just coming to his

504
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,040
own.
And Sheldon, what you deal with

505
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,480
that tape like watch him against
Donovan.

506
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,400
Donovan is an elite pass rusher
in college and that's who it was

507
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,760
against he he held him at Bay
the whole game.

508
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,840
Held him at Bay the whole game.
Brian, let me ask you real

509
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,280
quick, because Sheldon mentioned
it already, who did the BC

510
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,360
offensive line not hold at Bay
the whole game?

511
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,400
That would be Mr. APR.
I mean.

512
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,200
Antoine Powell Ryland had
himself a game, you know, went

513
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,720
from, you know, started the week
fifth in the country in Sachs,

514
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,680
finished the weekend even after
everybody else played number one

515
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,960
in the country in Sachs and just
had a hell of a game across the

516
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,240
board.
You know, had had that fumble

517
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,360
recovery stats from from
Castellanos there, had some

518
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:33,920
other key tackles, couple other
tackle for loss.

519
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,480
So he went out there and just
wrecked shot for four quarters

520
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,400
and it was really impressive to
watch.

521
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,880
And you know, when we talked
about top performances in that

522
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,840
game, there were a lot of them,
you know, from Kyron being

523
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,760
pretty much perfect in the first
half, throwing the football what

524
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,000
Toon did on 2 long runs and
being consistent between the

525
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,800
tackles all night.
And then you look on the other

526
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:04,080
side, APR second game with four
sacks this year and just had had

527
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,240
Tommy Castellanos in hell for
four quarters.

528
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,400
Had that offensive line in hell
for four quarters and I'm

529
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,360
sitting here Brian, as you were
watching that game and and, and,

530
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,400
and if y'all over here, Brian
and Tally talk about when they

531
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,600
watch the game, they don't watch
the outside, they watch in the

532
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,400
middle of the field.
They watch the line play.

533
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,000
They all know how y'all do that.
Trained eyes I guess.

534
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,880
But Brian, when you were
watching APR like as your

535
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,120
offensive lineman brain was
working, did at any point you

536
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:33,000
say, yeah, I don't think they
can stop him.

537
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,280
Like I don't think they're going
to have an answer unless they

538
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,040
start like basically giving all
the support to that side.

539
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,040
Well-being they were given
support to that side.

540
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,680
I mean, several times that he
got to the quarterback, he got

541
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,320
chipped by running back or you
got chipped by a tight end.

542
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,160
Like they weren't ignoring him
and he was still getting there.

543
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,800
And I think that's, that's the
thing that's most impressive.

544
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,160
I think you got to give a little
bit of credit to the secondary

545
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,720
as well, because it does, you
know, you got to be able to hold

546
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,960
up quick in that, in that
coverage for sacks to get home.

547
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,360
But they were able to do that
and APR was just tearing them up

548
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,160
all night.
It was, it was lovely.

549
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,360
It's like a officer lineman.
Most of the time when you look

550
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,160
across the line from you, you
expect the guy to look a certain

551
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,720
way that's going to do certain
things.

552
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,520
APR is kind of a tweener with
his size.

553
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,960
When you look at him, you don't
expect him to have, you know,

554
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,800
maybe elite quickness that he
does when he's getting around

555
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,840
people.
But he's not like a super big

556
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,760
guy.
So when I say super big, I mean,

557
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,600
you know, tall 6566 anywhere
around that.

558
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,280
So you don't feel like, you
know, he's going to bend as much

559
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,280
as he is.
You know, I'm saying like he has

560
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,840
like tremendous bend when he's
coming around the around the

561
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,360
corner and he's really, really
quick to be, you know, kind of

562
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,240
that that stocky size.
He's not one of those tall lean

563
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,120
people, you know what I'm
saying?

564
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,560
He's got some girth to him.
So I think sometimes it even

565
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,640
when you watch it on tape and
then when you line up across

566
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,760
from somebody, you look at them
like, OK, I should be able to do

567
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,240
this or they shouldn't be able
to bull rush me.

568
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,520
But he's got some things.
And again, I got to go back to

569
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,920
what JC has been able to do.
He's pulled some different some

570
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,800
different tricks out of his hat
that shows that he does have

571
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,640
pass rush moves.
It's not just a bull rusher.

572
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,480
He's not just a speed rusher
like he sometimes has to, you

573
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,960
know, use a jab step or
different things like that.

574
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,520
And I don't think that it's no
thanks to him when you sacked

575
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,160
somebody four times in one game,
multiple times.

576
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,280
I mean, you're doing some work.
So he's he's getting some moves

577
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,040
that I guess people kind of
shortchanged him for when he was

578
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,960
at Florida.
But thank you Florida.

579
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,440
Y'all didn't deserve it.
I saw the stat, he's like at

580
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,000
what, like about 21 sacks since
he became a hokey and I think it

581
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,800
as a combined team they have 38.
Yeah.

582
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,680
Since that time frame.
So, yeah, he's facing crazy.

583
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,760
He's facing big time.
All right, so there's all the

584
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,000
stuff that went well.
And that was pretty much 55

585
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,680
minutes of the game.
But I'm a I'm a realist here.

586
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,640
What went bad was that 5 minutes
in the third quarter.

587
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,640
And I mean, OK, first of all,
them come out of halftime

588
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,760
putting a basically putting a
drive together.

589
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,520
That's not shocking.
That's not shocking, right?

590
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,400
Not to a lot of people,
especially somebody like Bill

591
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,280
O'Brien who has coached a long
time.

592
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,000
He made some adjustments, right?
And they moved down.

593
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,480
It was the next few minutes with
just some really out of

594
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,840
character things from the team
and, and I know I have been at

595
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,320
baseball.
So I'm like following this thing

596
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,320
on my phone like this is over.
I go down to my neighbor's house

597
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,640
down the street here where Brian
and Sheldon have both been.

598
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,600
They got the fire pit going
watching the game.

599
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:50,600
And I sit down, pour Sagamore,
pour nice Sagamore whiskey and

600
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,680
all that crap happens and I'm
like, you gotta be kidding.

601
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,240
Am I going to have to like
leave?

602
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,000
Where were you?
Where was y'all's mentality at

603
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,400
Sheldon?
You were there.

604
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Where was your mentality when
that happened?

605
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,040
Because I mean, the place is
buzzing, it's electric.

606
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,120
And then 5 minutes like that
happened.

607
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,800
I was pretty chill honestly.
Like I know people kind of

608
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,000
flipped out about that, but like
it was, it was 2 dumb turnovers.

609
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,920
I mean, we gave them
essentially, you know, 40 total

610
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,200
yards of field position to work
with.

611
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,400
Like, you know, it's not like I
don't think the defense fell

612
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,680
apart.
I just think, you know, you had

613
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,840
a couple critical turnovers and
you know, once they once they

614
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:27,760
got past that, they went right
back in the field, scored a

615
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,240
touchdown, they got the big stop
1/4 down and then boom, that was

616
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,000
it.
So I think I think for me, you

617
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,880
know, I trusted the way they
played in the first half.

618
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,920
I think, you know, if you're if
you're a dominant scrimmage and

619
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,960
you know, you're moving the ball
downfield consistently, I think

620
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,720
you know, you know, eventually
the you know, the process will

621
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,360
will pay off, so to speak.
So, you know, just a couple big

622
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,160
mistakes there.
It's kind of really all there

623
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,440
was to it.
But I was I was honestly never

624
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,640
really worried that much Cali.
I was all right until Curtis got

625
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:59,040
back in the chat like ramp my
anxiety up and I I had to put

626
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,480
the phone on on charge and stop
looking at it if.

627
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,640
If y'all don't know about Curt
so I'm going to share this real

628
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,960
quick before I let you finish
tally, but go ahead.

629
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,920
All right, so our buddy Pete B
likes to live tweet during

630
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,120
games.
Curtis is basically Pete B that

631
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,040
doesn't live tweet during games.
Curtis does it.

632
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,960
It's it's very high and low.
It's very high and low.

633
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,760
It's an emotional roller coaster
and depending on where you are

634
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,280
at the time is going to depend
on what type of Curtis you get.

635
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,840
Yeah, Curtis is Curtis was he
was on one in the in the shout

636
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,640
out people.
Sheldon was kind of still

637
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,800
Sheldon.
You know, he's what he's saying

638
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,400
most of the time, like whatever
is what he does, he's just kind

639
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,560
of, I told you all, we're better
than them, we're going to win.

640
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,400
And I'm like, well, Curtis ain't
saying we're going to win.

641
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,920
So I'm kind of leaning Curtis's
way because I'm watching the

642
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,200
game as well.
But yeah, no, it was fun though,

643
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,640
man.
And like you said, we went

644
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:02,160
through that stretch and it was
just kind of like, let me see,

645
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,000
actually, I had, I had to do
something with my son.

646
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,200
I had to get him.
And I ended up taking him to go

647
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,880
get something to eat and we
leave to go grab him something

648
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,480
to eat.
And I come back and it's like,

649
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,679
what's happened?
It's like a different team, you

650
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:17,639
know?
And then we give them, you know,

651
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,320
2 turnovers and next thing you
know, it's like, oh Lord, here

652
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,040
we go again.
But we overcame.

653
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,280
So I was all right with that.
Yeah.

654
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,159
To, to me, it kind of, I think
it kind of started a little bit

655
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:37,080
with the, the, the Colin Schlee
call there on that drive opening

656
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,600
the second-half.
I feel like that kind of fiddled

657
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,239
with our mojo a little bit.
Then we had another, I think

658
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,080
drop on that, on that series
that ultimately we ended up

659
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:49,639
getting off the field punting
and then they drove down and,

660
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,520
and, and did their thing on that
first drive.

661
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,360
And, you know, then you have a
couple mistakes.

662
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,920
The next thing you know, 4
scores becomes one score and

663
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,920
you're sweating a little bit.
To Sheldon's point, I never got

664
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:05,560
worried, but I was definitely
like, this is not going to be as

665
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,760
pretty as it should be now
because of this was these are

666
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,360
these are mistakes that you
can't make.

667
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,760
But at the same time, like I
wasn't, I'd seen what we had

668
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,200
done in the first half.
I thought that if we could just

669
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,120
stop the bleeding it it was
going to be fine because we've

670
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,640
shown that we can handle them at
the line of scrimmage.

671
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:24,720
Well, I.
Won't give all of I won't give

672
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:28,360
all of the family secrets away,
but I want to read some of the

673
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,520
the live messages from Curtis
during the game we had.

674
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,040
Y'all I'm about to leave.
This isn't cool y'all.

675
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,680
This is stupid.
That's all in the course of

676
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,960
about two minutes right there,
though.

677
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,920
I mean it was only 5 minutes.
Yeah, I know it was.

678
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,160
Probably 12 minutes total time,
5 minutes runtime.

679
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,840
Tally, I think it's somewhere in
that chain.

680
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:56,840
I literally told you, Tally, I
have to do this here so I can be

681
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,160
somewhat calm in somewhat here
on Tuesday nights.

682
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,240
Oh, we're curse was in there
somewhere.

683
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,600
Oh yeah, we're curse always
coming up.

684
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,720
That's always coming up.
Anytime we do something, we're

685
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:08,920
cursed.
I think Tally might have froze

686
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,800
on us.
I think Tally did freeze on us.

687
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,120
He's probably reading the really
bad ones right now.

688
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,480
But you know what?
That's a that's a stylish pose.

689
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,720
At first I thought he was like
building suspense.

690
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:18,680
Oh yeah.
And he was going to look.

691
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,080
Up.
And then he gets.

692
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,720
Moved for 30 seconds.
I'm like, not so much.

693
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,360
Can I say this, though, about
the coaching staff in this team

694
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,520
and these players?
So we've been down numerous

695
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,560
times this year, go back to
Vandy and Rutgers.

696
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,440
We've had bad things happen like
the ODU game.

697
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,800
The one thing I think this
coaching staff has instilled and

698
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,600
even goes back to last year's
resiliency amongst the team

699
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,200
because you don't see them.
They're like Shelton, something

700
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,200
bad happens.
They don't panic, they aren't

701
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,200
losing their minds, they aren't
going around doing dumb shit.

702
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,960
So effectively that happened and
then we just calm down and about

703
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:02,480
5 minutes later we stopped them
on 4th down touchdown.

704
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,320
We stopped them again, three and
out touchdown.

705
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:11,680
So the reality is, I hate it.
I have to get it out.

706
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,280
If I don't get it out, I would
lose my mind here on every

707
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,080
Tuesday night.
I don't think that would be much

708
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:21,080
fun for watching, but when bad
things happen, this team and

709
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,720
this coaching staff does not
panic.

710
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,880
And we've now seen that in
numerous examples in the last

711
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,200
year.
Plus, you got one more good one

712
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,480
right there.
Yeah, one more good one.

713
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,840
Or did you put it away?
Huh.

714
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,960
Are you talking to me?
Yeah.

715
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,560
Oh no it was just it was just a
week cursed and then we cursed

716
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:46,400
laugh out loud after we scored.
So no, we cursed and then we

717
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:53,160
still cursed left.
The the funniest, the funniest 1

718
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,760
was Tally responding.
They cursed too then and then

719
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,360
and that was after the I think
that last turnover they had.

720
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,120
You got to love it, got to love
it.

721
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,480
All right, Just a couple more
things as we close out To Tell

722
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:09,000
the truth segment, I think I was
not prepared for no field goals.

723
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,800
I expected them to stop us at
least once.

724
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,240
I expected someone to kick.
Somebody kick no field goals.

725
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,600
Can you make a bet on that on
the betting side?

726
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,120
So I believe there will be no
field goals kicked in this game.

727
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,640
Well, they tried.
Oh, that's they, I think they

728
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,920
tried to run a trick play there.
Yeah, because they were, because

729
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,880
that guy was moving from the
field, like I think they were

730
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,320
trying to run a trick play and
it just when he bobbled it, they

731
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,400
were fucked.
So can we just say this too as

732
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,920
we move on?
We got because we do want to hit

733
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:45,520
a little something, the version
of this team since Rutgers, they

734
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,880
just got to keep being it and
they've got to keep improving

735
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:52,240
because this team that keeps
showing up statistically,

736
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:58,080
mentally, physically again, I,
I, I think they can stand toe to

737
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,840
toe with a lot of good teams in
the country.

738
00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:03,280
No, I agree.
I agree.

739
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,320
You're right on, right on point
with what you're saying with

740
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,080
that, You know what I'm saying?
Just what needs to happen moving

741
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,080
forward is just, you know, I
think we're going to touch over

742
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,720
a little bit later too.
Just continue like feeding into

743
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:17,720
your identity, you know, like
you're seven games in.

744
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,000
You know what you can do and you
know what you can't do?

745
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,600
Feed into that.
Yep, I think that's that's been

746
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,400
the big thing for us is that,
you know, what we've seen since

747
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,920
the start of conference play has
been a team with an identity on

748
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:35,000
both sides of the football, a
team that has been playing, you

749
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:41,840
know, 111 moment or here aside,
I think a lot better as a unit.

750
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,240
And I'm thinking not just the
team itself, but also the way

751
00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:48,320
the coaching staff has been
during the games.

752
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,960
I think I think they've called a
better game from a coordinator

753
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,720
standpoint.
I think Brent Pry has been

754
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,320
better from a game management
standpoint in that same time

755
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,920
stretch as well.
So we have an identity now.

756
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,000
It's just.
About keeping it consistent and

757
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,440
putting that best product out
every week because we know what

758
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,200
the ceiling looks like now,
we've seen it.

759
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,680
We just got to be consistent
with it going forward.

760
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,960
So you get anything to add on
top of that, anything you got to

761
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,440
say we got to keep doing better
moving forward.

762
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,080
I think we've been bringing it
up pretty well and you know, we

763
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,360
can talk about this a little bit
more depth later on, but I think

764
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,280
I think Bowen has added some
some complexity to the run game,

765
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,160
kind of building off some of
that base off they've been doing

766
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,360
with like split zone, for
instance.

767
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,720
So you know, the rushing numbers
continue to get better.

768
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,320
I think as the offense
progresses, the online gets

769
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,680
better, you know that there's
more synchronization, I guess.

770
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,040
So I just, I, I really like the
way the office is going kind of

771
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,240
set up by the run game and also
drones to getting more polished

772
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,000
as a passer.
Yeah.

773
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,480
And I know we've talked about it
a couple weeks now and I've

774
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,400
talked about it with Sheldon
some off air, like what Bowen's

775
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,320
doing with motion in the run
game in the past.

776
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:03,280
Game is a lot more complex and
kind of what I expected from

777
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,360
this offense kind of the start
of the year.

778
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,800
I know you got to you got to,
you know, you got to layer some

779
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,560
of that in.
You can't come out week 1

780
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,400
gangbusters show your whole
playbook.

781
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,080
But what they've been doing with
motion has been really clever to

782
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:23,960
getting guys into one-on-one
situations in the passing game

783
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,560
and also to kind of get the
linebackers eyes where they

784
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,200
shouldn't be in the run game.
All righty, so real quick as we

785
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,800
we we get a cap on that right
now with Tell the Truth Tuesday.

786
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,920
We do want to discuss this.
There was a commitment earlier

787
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,720
this week and it's another
legacy commitment.

788
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:47,360
Brennan Johnson, Big Brother on
the team, dad a legend, coach

789
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,640
Lauren Johnson's son, 6 foot 190
LB linebacker out of Highland

790
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,960
Springs, a three star 87 on 247
composite.

791
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,960
I don't think anybody was
shocked by this.

792
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,680
I think the timing was when it's
going to happen.

793
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,200
But Brian Talley, I don't know
if y'all had a chance to see

794
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,480
tape or film on Brennan.
A lot of people say he's better

795
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,880
than his brother.
A lot of people say he's a dog

796
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,160
and linebacker.
Yeah, he just, when I've watched

797
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,000
him the last couple of years,
he's moved around to a couple of

798
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,280
different spots.
I didn't really know what he'd

799
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,240
project to play in college just
because of kind of the different

800
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:28,840
things he's done in high school.
But very, very solid player.

801
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,480
I know last year or maybe two
years ago, you know, when they

802
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,200
talked about him when Braylon
was still in high school, they

803
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,600
talked about, you know, Brandon
a little bit more, just the

804
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,000
things that he was able to do on
the team.

805
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,040
So I know some at that time,
some they were talking about him

806
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,800
getting a lot more looks than I
guess what he's really paid

807
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,400
attention to or that he's fed
into, you know, moving into a

808
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,600
senior year.
So was it really a surprise to

809
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,440
see him commit?
But like you said, kind of

810
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,000
timing was OK.
When is it going to happen?

811
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,080
Because you can't really lose,
you know, that type of recruit

812
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,600
because you know what happens
when we lose that type of

813
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,640
recruit?
They go somewhere else and we

814
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,320
see their name and lights all
the time or they come back to

815
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,920
lane and or we play them and
they end up killing us for 2-3

816
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,920
years.
So good to see him.

817
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:25,880
It's good to see him commit.
Showing anything on Vernon

818
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:26,440
Johnson?
Nope.

819
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,880
I.
See.

820
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,520
Nothing.
All he's asked.

821
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,440
All he's asked.
I know you're not recruiting

822
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,720
like you once were.
All right, Tally, you said you

823
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:38,680
wanted to bring something up
real quick before we get over to

824
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,920
know the enemy.
Yeah, just because we got, you

825
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,880
know, got another Virginia
recruit.

826
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,480
So of course you're looking at,
I mean, recruiting's kind of

827
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,800
been been LAX for us lately.
You know, we kind of had some

828
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,080
people already in the boat, so
not really been paying

829
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:55,480
attention.
But of course we get a new

830
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:56,760
recruit.
So the first thing you want to

831
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,680
do is, OK, where's the class
stack up?

832
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:01,120
You know, where do we stack up
in Virginia, Things like that.

833
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,720
And so right now I'm looking and
nationally we are 46 and

834
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:12,800
recruiting, I think we're right
at a 87 on our recruit somewhere

835
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:18,320
around that.
And the thing that was more, I

836
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,720
guess I don't want to say
alarming, but we, we don't have

837
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:24,800
a top 10 recruit.
You know what I'm saying?

838
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,120
I, I didn't know this, I didn't
pay attention to this until now.

839
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,760
I thought I went to sleep and we
had a couple of top 10 recruits

840
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,680
and I woke up and we got none.
I think our top recruit is

841
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:39,400
number 13 in Virginia and I'm
talking about Virginia recruits.

842
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,400
Everybody in the chat if y'all
don't know.

843
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,840
Composite, 9247.
Ring, right.

844
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,400
So I think Brett Platterbaum is
our top recruit out of Virginia

845
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:54,960
and he is 13 now.
So I wanted to ask you guys,

846
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,720
what do y'all think about that?
Is that a staff problem or is

847
00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:02,640
that a ranking problem?
Well, well, first of all, Brett

848
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,200
Clatterbaugh just a couple
months ago was the number eight

849
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,760
player in Virginia.
Right.

850
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,960
And Michael Matthews was the
number five player in Virginia,

851
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,840
right?
So for some reason, they both

852
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,480
got their four-star removed and
they got bumped down.

853
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,840
Christian Evans, I'm sorry, I
got tally.

854
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,520
You know, I got hot on this.
Christian Evans went to the

855
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:29,360
Under Armour camp in Maryland
over the summer where all the

856
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,320
big time East Coast prospects
come, right?

857
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,520
Don't know about that camp.
It's one of the big ones.

858
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,960
He's the fucking in defensive
MVP and he gets 0 bump.

859
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,160
He's in the 20s still.
How is that possible?

860
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,600
How, how do you go here and
outperform every other elite

861
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,040
crew to this camp and you don't
even get a pump?

862
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:55,040
I think the thing that was most
like crazy to me was to see

863
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,560
where Jeff Overton is like he's
32nd in Virginia.

864
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,440
Wasn't he like the Gatorade
player of the year last year and

865
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,000
to go look at his stats this
year?

866
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,560
I think there was 6 and O, 7 and
O.

867
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:14,280
He's still running over people
and he gets take it down again.

868
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,600
I, I don't understand it.
So I had to get it off my chest

869
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,240
and ask some people, anybody
who's following recruiting in

870
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:23,080
the chat, please let me know
what's going on.

871
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,640
Anybody who's in the Virginia
area in front of the church,

872
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,680
anybody who's in Virginia who's
who's paying attention to these

873
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,240
games a little bit more than I
do.

874
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,520
What's going on, man?
Are these, are these running

875
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,840
backs from Virginia that good
that over to the 32 and in

876
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,200
Virginia?
I don't get it.

877
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,040
I don't want to say they're
against tech because I don't

878
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,240
know that, but I'm just saying
something.

879
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,440
Some don't quite smell right.
You know what I'm saying?

880
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,200
That milk kind of spoiled me.
That's all I'm going to say.

881
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,360
Brian, what you feeling about
this stuff, man?

882
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:00,120
I'm kind of right there with
you.

883
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,240
You know, I think it's weird
seeing.

884
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,320
I think the downgrades are
weird.

885
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:11,000
I think the ones that didn't get
bumped up like Overton and like

886
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,880
Evans is probably the bigger
crime.

887
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,000
They were already committed.
They were already committed so.

888
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,960
Yeah, exactly.
So you know, it, it's going to

889
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,840
be interesting to see that.
And I think, you know, rankings

890
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,240
matter.
We we talk about rankings.

891
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:29,560
Rankings matter to a point,
right?

892
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:35,880
But I think this staff has shown
a really good job of evaluating

893
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,600
talent and evaluating talent for
what they're trying to do.

894
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,880
So as long as they're getting
the guys they want, I care a

895
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,840
little bit less.
But obviously from a perception

896
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,120
standpoint, we're going to talk
about rankings.

897
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,040
We have to talk about it.
So that that's just kind of is

898
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,800
what it is.
They're always going to be

899
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,160
discussed because the numbers
are out there.

900
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,200
Sheldon, you got anything on
this?

901
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,760
Yeah, I mean.
I don't really.

902
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:01,840
I.
I don't pay too much attention

903
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,200
to recruit rankings like you
used to.

904
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:06,240
I think you know individuals.
There's always going to be some

905
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:08,960
politics involved with, you know
what a guy's rated.

906
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,040
I don't think, you know, it's,
it's probably more helpful to

907
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:12,640
look at it from a team
perspective, you know, over

908
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,120
multiple years.
And you know, I was, I was, you

909
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,560
know, talking this to a friend
who who was pretty good with

910
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,920
numbers the other day.
Like recruiting rankings are

911
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,240
more helpful if you're looking
at like 3-4 five year sample

912
00:48:22,240 --> 00:48:25,320
sizes in a single season, much
less a single player.

913
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,000
I just went, I just don't really
make too much of it.

914
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,600
So I think like Curtis said, the
staff is and Brian too, the the

915
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,760
staff has done a pretty good job
with evaluations to me if they,

916
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,360
if they think a kid is worthy,
but then you know, he's good

917
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,760
enough for me.
So I'm just I wouldn't make too

918
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,120
much deal about 33*4*5*
personally.

919
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,200
Well I'm making it about the
four-star 247.

920
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,040
Y'all better get your shit
together.

921
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,600
How are you dropping people
down?

922
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,840
We trying to get up in the top
25 and we looking we have 46

923
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,520
well you.
Do the math though, you start

924
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,920
and I was doing it today after
you sent me that message.

925
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,080
There's a lot of teams in front
of us that have 20 plus recruit,

926
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,120
so we're sitting at 17 and 46.
Yeah, the average is only a

927
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:11,960
little bit lower than what we
want to be at.

928
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,960
The 80 sevens where it's like, I
think if, if you did that, we're

929
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,960
like 31.
Yeah, I mean, we want to be at

930
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,640
about 80.
Our our, our squad.

931
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,960
We want to be at about 88.
So if we're at 87 1/2, we're in

932
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,360
that ballpark, I think.
I think the problem is that we

933
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,960
we were, we were there.
We were at like just below that

934
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,560
80.
We're like 87.7 and then they.

935
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,280
Bumped them down and they the
bump down, they bump and you

936
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,320
know, it hurts more because you,
you get bumped down the two

937
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,280
people that are probably waiting
the the average up the most.

938
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,160
So it you know, it, it hurts a
little bit more in that

939
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:47,240
percentage.
But I mean, I'm kind of at a

940
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:50,880
point where, you know, like I
said earlier, if they're guys

941
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,880
that the staff wants and they
think they can play every just

942
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,880
about every young guy,
especially on the defensive side

943
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,200
of the ball.
But I mean, we're seeing on the

944
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,360
offensive side of the ball,
everybody they're bringing in

945
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,680
has went out there and and had
some success on the field.

946
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,840
So, you know, and and that's
with a team now that is is

947
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,880
pretty veteran.
So if they're if they're

948
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,720
stacking guys behind them that
are able to kind of Wally pip

949
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:18,800
some of those guys, especially
when injuries happen and things

950
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,120
like that, I'm OK with it.
All right, tell, I'm going to

951
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,280
say one last thing before we do
a little break.

952
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:30,040
Read here and bring on rec talk.
Woodson was ranked 18th, Woodson

953
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,600
was ranked 18th, and there's
some players that have been in

954
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,800
front of him that he is
considerably outperforming,

955
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,880
including a couple that went to
Penn State.

956
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,400
So we'll move on from this and
as always, we are brought to you

957
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,760
by Count Stanley Pharmacy, your
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958
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,960
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959
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,800
Go see Jeremy and let him
entertain you any day of the

960
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,960
week.
So now we move on to know the

961
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,400
Enemy and tonight got a buddy of
ours from Rec Talk coming in, so

962
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,000
we'll go ahead and pull him in
here.

963
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,800
How's it going tonight, man?
It's going pretty good.

964
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,240
How are you guys doing?
Hey, I like the AKA there.

965
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:12,920
I got to call Curtis out a
little bit.

966
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,920
Yeah, there you go.
I'm really upset about that and

967
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,440
I will never ever let it go.
Don't let it go.

968
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,880
Ever.
You should never let it go.

969
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,000
So.
You know Curtis has butchered

970
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,560
some pretty pretty easy and
straightforward names in the

971
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,400
past there, so please don't take
any direct offense but

972
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,240
definitely give him as much shit
as possible.

973
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:33,040
Your running back's a nightmare
for you, though.

974
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,920
How long did it take you to
learn to pronounce his name?

975
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,240
About about six months 6.
Months.

976
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,240
It was it was facial.
Facial.

977
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,000
Oh, it was.
It was all bad.

978
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,720
Hey, don't, don't, don't ask him
to to to say Kelly Lawson,

979
00:51:49,720 --> 00:51:53,080
though.
Oh God, yeah, I need the

980
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:57,480
pronunciation guy.
But nobody Keely Kalai Kelly

981
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,320
blew up.
I needed one of those those

982
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,200
nights.
But rec talk, give us a little

983
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,240
background on yourself, how you
started your podcast, and where

984
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:09,840
folks can find you.
So I started mine right right

985
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,000
after the game, after we fired
Jeff Collins.

986
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,160
That's why, if you notice in the
chat, it probably didn't make

987
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,880
sense to you when you said money
down.

988
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,440
That was a big thing Jeff
Collins did, and I probably have

989
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,680
40 hours of content just
absolutely hating him and

990
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,520
talking about how dumb he is.
In fact, I went to North

991
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,600
Carolina and I got seats 3 rows
back from where he stands and I

992
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,720
just yelled at him mercilessly
all game.

993
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,560
And that last drive we had was
great.

994
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,720
But I started right after
Collins was fired and only thing

995
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:42,960
I've done right is just keep
making videos.

996
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,920
I don't know how watchable they
are but you know you just keep

997
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,320
going on and and talking.
I mean it takes a certain kind

998
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,640
of narcissist to talk for like 2
hours on a live show and and

999
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,440
think people are still listening
to.

1000
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,600
That's what I've done.
I got to respect that, though.

1001
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,720
You got to respect that.
And, you know, you got to

1002
00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:05,360
respect the Jeff Collins hate
because I can definitely

1003
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,720
commiserate with what, what
they're dealing with.

1004
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:11,920
And, and you know, it's UNC's
problem now and, and, and it's

1005
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,040
kind of fun to see the other
side of it when it's like, all

1006
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,080
right, well, that's your
problem.

1007
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:17,400
I'm going to talk my shit now
though because.

1008
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,760
Yeah.
You're catching the end of it,

1009
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,600
right?
Now they're paying that moron

1010
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:27,880
$1.1 million a year to give up
70 to JMU and I'm like man, I'd

1011
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,240
screw up that game for 1/10 of
that for you guys.

1012
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:33,240
Save you some money.
I mean, we need to get into

1013
00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:35,080
coaching.
I think some of you might be,

1014
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,200
but from the sounds of it, but
that's what I need to do, yeah.

1015
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,120
I've, I've dabbled in the past
and I think I could have went

1016
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,760
out there and called a better
game against JMU, but you know.

1017
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,240
Do the opposite of what you're
doing, all one.

1018
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,440
Right.
It keeps sending the same say

1019
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,960
calls in and they keep scoring
touchdowns.

1020
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,160
Try something else.
Tell you would think if he made

1021
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,240
just picked one play call and
stuck with the whole game he

1022
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:01,120
wouldn't give up 70 maybe.
It's going to work at least like

1023
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,120
10% of the time you'd think.
Yeah, all righty, so let's

1024
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,680
always fun.
Getting a basketball score in a

1025
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,360
football game.
How you?

1026
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,440
Do they're ready for basketball
season, aren't they?

1027
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,120
Yes, they are.
All right, well, let's get into

1028
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:14,520
it.
Let's talk a little bit about

1029
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,640
the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets
here and let's talk about the

1030
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,960
offense.
And you know y'all got your

1031
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,480
offensive coordinator Buster
Faulkner and a name that

1032
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,320
everybody in Hokie Nation will
forever hate as you're Co OC and

1033
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:28,680
Chris Winky.
Fuck that guy.

1034
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:33,120
Fuck him forever.
So what I was wondering because

1035
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,720
when you have one like that and
Faulkner's tight ends coach

1036
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,360
Winky's working with
quarterbacks, who is the primary

1037
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,280
play caller for the Georgia Tech
Yellow Jackets on the offense?

1038
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,000
It's interesting because it's
changed.

1039
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,880
So it's definitely Buster
Faulkner.

1040
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,040
Buster Faulkner is definitely
the play caller.

1041
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,600
But when Key was interim and we
had Chip Long, Winky actually

1042
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,680
called the plays for the last
half of the season.

1043
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,000
And if you ask any Tech fan, I
mean, Winky is the heir apparent

1044
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,400
to become the OC.
You know, Tech struggled on

1045
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,640
offense this year.
Buster, we had to pay Buster to

1046
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:10,320
keep him from going to places
like Kentucky or going to an SEC

1047
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,560
job.
But yeah, but Busters play

1048
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,520
caller going a little rough this
season, but we'll we'll see if

1049
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,880
we can dial something up for the
Hokies Saturday, the Tecmo Bowl.

1050
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,960
There we go.
There we go the, the, the two

1051
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,560
schools that can claim the
moniker Tech and, and everybody

1052
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,040
knows who they're talking about.
Let's talk a little bit about

1053
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,440
the quarterback situation,
because that seems to be the one

1054
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,560
thing that, you know, even in
the, the media hype and

1055
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,000
everything, you got the national
media talking about it.

1056
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,320
You got your coach kind of
refuting what the national media

1057
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,000
saying, You know, what's the
story going on at quarterback?

1058
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,960
Are we going to see Haynes King,
who we going to see?

1059
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,360
Who you think we're going to
see?

1060
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,400
If I was a betting man, I'd say
Pyron starts.

1061
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,520
I mean, you know, King not
starting last week was a big

1062
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,800
deal.
And I think as a staff, you

1063
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,400
don't want to put a 65% King in,
have them now have a season

1064
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,600
ending injury.
Now you're guaranteed not to

1065
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,040
have them when you have a very
capable backup.

1066
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,240
And Zach Pyron, you know, he
played against Notre Dame last

1067
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:14,880
week.
I hate that his first kind of

1068
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,520
start this year was against
Notre Dame with the 4th ranked

1069
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,640
pass offense in the country.
Pretty tough out.

1070
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,240
You know, he's trying to force
some throws to make some plays.

1071
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,400
But Zach Poweron does have a win
in Blacksburg.

1072
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:30,640
So he started in his interim
year, went to Blacksburg and got

1073
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,760
a win.
And look, he's an elite 11

1074
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,520
quarterback.
He's a veteran guy.

1075
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,240
There's probably not too many
teams that have backups that our

1076
00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:42,280
veteran like that and I, you
know, I have the full confidence

1077
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,440
in Pyron if and probably when he
does start in this game.

1078
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,960
Yeah, I think everybody else on
this show remembers that game,

1079
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,920
that Pyron went in there and
carved us up a little bit.

1080
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:58,000
It was a it was a little
frustrating to to witness that

1081
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,400
game and how that went down.
And I think we kind of knew then

1082
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,160
that was kind of I think one of
the first big games where you're

1083
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,200
like, all right, well, this
Brent Key might be on to

1084
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:10,520
something here as an interim.
So, you know, that was a good

1085
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:14,360
situation for you guys.
And I, I'm, I think, you know, I

1086
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,440
think your ceilings a lot higher
with Haynes King in there.

1087
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,680
If he's able to go and he's able
at least to hit that like 85 or

1088
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,760
90% mark.
But I don't like you said, I

1089
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,720
don't think they're going to
roll him out there at 65% and

1090
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,640
risk an injury and have him be
limited in what he can do

1091
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,760
because, you know, he does have
a, a dynamic skill set as well

1092
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,200
there.
So I'm expecting hiring.

1093
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,400
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.

1094
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:38,320
I.
Was going to say I'm I'm

1095
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,720
expecting power to get that
start.

1096
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:43,520
Yeah, King is definitely a
little more fleet footed.

1097
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,520
I mean, he's like a 4-5 flat
type guy.

1098
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,360
But the thing with Pyron is he's
probably a little more

1099
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:54,720
consistent throwing, probably
has a little more accurate arm.

1100
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,240
So it'll be interesting to see
how it plays out.

1101
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,480
Yeah, Power run is, of course,
like you said, he's a no

1102
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,880
stranger to to come to
Blacksburg and fucking stuff up.

1103
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,040
Yeah, I think it was 2022 that
he did.

1104
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,120
But he's actually a Alabama guy.
He's actually a Alabama guy.

1105
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,520
He was AI don't want to say
legend, but he may be close to a

1106
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,280
legend here in Alabama.
He went to a school called

1107
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,360
Penson Valley.
If y'all you know, Tech fans,

1108
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,680
remember Kenji Christensen.
He was his quarterback in high

1109
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:27,640
school.
They won A state championship

1110
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,320
together.
That's it.

1111
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:32,360
That was a 6A school, which is
not the biggest division in

1112
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:35,480
Alabama, but, you know, closest
to the biggest division, 7A is

1113
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,600
the biggest.
So Pinson Valley was at that

1114
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,760
time pretty much a powerhouse
just getting back into kind of

1115
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:43,960
his high school stuff.
So he's a winner.

1116
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:45,800
And I think he went to a smaller
school.

1117
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,200
Yeah.
He went to a smaller school

1118
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,680
called Fife High School.
Was more of a country.

1119
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,080
This is what I'll tell you.
I I he went from the most

1120
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:57,760
country school in the world and
won a state title there to the

1121
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:03,080
most hood school or like into
the hood school and want to stay

1122
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,920
titled up.
He can fit into anything like he

1123
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,920
can go anywhere and he can play
anywhere and he ain't going to

1124
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,480
be scared.
So he will he go ahead?

1125
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,920
He ran the triple option at that
smaller school I'm pretty sure

1126
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,040
they run.
And then, you know, I've

1127
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,160
interviewed him on the channel
before.

1128
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,840
I think his dad took him to this
other school because I was like,

1129
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,560
all right, you know, Paul
Johnson ain't coaching no more.

1130
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,360
So maybe we need to go to a
school that doesn't run the

1131
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,080
triple off.
You're in Alabama, Tally, you're

1132
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,400
in Alabama.
Yeah, man, I'm, I'm Alabama born

1133
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,360
and bred.
I'm in Huntsville, AL.

1134
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,280
Nice.
Not not far from me then.

1135
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,000
I'm on the West side of Atlanta.
OK, nice.

1136
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,880
Are you over there?
You over there with the with the

1137
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,720
with the good chicken wings
that's in the strip clubs.

1138
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,800
Yeah, that's actually why I
moved there.

1139
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,360
I was like number one thing,
strip club and what's the wing

1140
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,920
situation at that strip club?
I'll go on a Tuesday at 2:00 in

1141
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:03,000
the in the afternoon that that
does not matter to me.

1142
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,320
Hey, you're a trooper for that
man.

1143
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,280
Hey.
And if they got good wings, it's

1144
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,560
worth it.
It's always worth it.

1145
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:10,720
Exactly.
Don't.

1146
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,520
Matter for the wings either that
frozen.

1147
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,880
I'm telling you the the the
Internet in Alabama is on 1/2

1148
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,320
night Sheldon what you what
you're.

1149
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:28,040
Trying to take my man down.
They are it's it's it's the the

1150
01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:30,960
man is trying to take tally out.
Sheldon, what you got concerning

1151
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,600
something you want to know about
the offense for the Georgia Tech

1152
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,360
Yellow Jackets?
Yeah.

1153
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,600
I mean, I'm kind of just looking
over some of the advanced stats.

1154
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,760
I mean, pretty solid for the
Yellow Jackets, 36 in EPA per

1155
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,880
rush, 19th in EPA per per
passing attempt.

1156
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,280
You know, success rate across
the board, pretty good. 39th for

1157
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,640
rushing, 16th for passing.
I mean, it seems like it's a

1158
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,440
pretty solid offense overall, 22
points per drive.

1159
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,800
What I guess just go over kind
of the biggest strengths and

1160
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,000
maybe the biggest weaknesses of
the GT offense right now.

1161
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:00,880
All right.
Well, Shelton, you look a little

1162
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,360
younger, so I'm going to say
this.

1163
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:07,560
No cap when I say this biggest
strength of the offense is

1164
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,440
definitely rushing.
I mean these these teams are

1165
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,520
similar in their offensive
identity.

1166
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,240
You know, you look at Virginia
Tech, what are you 16th and pass

1167
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,400
offense and number one in the
conference and rush offense.

1168
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,720
Tech's a little more balance,
but they definitely look Brink

1169
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,440
he's a guy that wants to run the
ball.

1170
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:28,800
He says that run the ball.
Jamal Haynes, a guy that had a

1171
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,800
really good season for tech last
year, like their first 1000 yard

1172
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,440
rusters since Paul Johnson was
here.

1173
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:37,160
This year, they've they've been
very inconsistent running the

1174
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,520
ball for whatever reason,
though, which is surprising when

1175
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,840
you have an offensive line and
Ron, I think it sounds like you

1176
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,800
played offensive line.
I don't think people give credit

1177
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,760
to how difficult it is to play
that position and how important

1178
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,240
chemistry is.
But something's something's got

1179
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,440
lost in the sauce for tech this
year.

1180
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,200
I think it might just be the
people are just going to stack

1181
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,640
the box on tech.
If I'm Virginia Tech, that's

1182
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:59,040
what I'm going to do.
Stack the box, make a high run,

1183
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,400
throw, play man coverage on the
outside and and see what

1184
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,240
happens.
If I'm Virginia Tech, hey, I'm

1185
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,560
not going to let you beat me
running Jamal Haynes like I'm

1186
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,760
Jeff Collins at North Carolina
on the last play.

1187
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:17,240
The biggest weakness on Tech's
team without a doubt is special

1188
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,160
teams.
I mean, it's absolutely killed

1189
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,880
us.
Something you don't talk about a

1190
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:26,960
ton, but how you get your ass
beat on the road easily is

1191
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,480
special teams.
We've now against Louisville had

1192
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,440
a block kick taken back for a
touchdown, a Marion Hampton took

1193
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,680
a kickback against us, should
have, should have lost.

1194
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,680
In North Carolina on special
team snafus, we take time outs,

1195
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,320
get substitution penalties
before punts.

1196
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,280
It's a disaster.
And it was a disaster against

1197
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,680
Notre Dame.
So that'd be the biggest

1198
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,880
weakness as far as offense,
defense weakness.

1199
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:56,680
It's our pass pass rush and pass
defense, which luckily for us,

1200
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,080
you've struggled throwing the
ball.

1201
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:03,080
I think you've got was it Drones
has 9 touchdowns on five picks.

1202
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:06,240
I think you're near, I think
you're 16th and pass offense

1203
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,320
too.
But that's what kind of makes it

1204
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,600
an interesting, interesting
matchup is that we kind of clash

1205
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,160
it.
We we both kind of want to do

1206
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,840
similar things.
Hope that answers your question.

1207
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,720
Yeah, for sure.
And and just so I just can't

1208
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:22,720
confirm, looking at the numbers,
Georgia Tech does rank 122nd and

1209
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,600
special teams efficiency
according to FBI.

1210
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,760
So the numbers do bear that out.
It has been a rough go for the

1211
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:28,800
jackets on.
Teams.

1212
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,040
Talk.
It's not all in your head.

1213
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,280
Yeah, I.
Love being a tech guy.

1214
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:39,120
The numbers have confirmed what
I can see with my lion eyes.

1215
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,920
Let me ask this, go back to the
offense before we get on the

1216
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,880
defensive side of the ball, but
I'm looking here.

1217
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:51,920
Y'all got 2 main targets and
that's Rutherford and Singleton.

1218
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,040
You know, they're basically
almost half the completed passes

1219
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:59,520
goes either one of those guys.
Which one of those two guys do

1220
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:02,200
you like in this matchup versus
Virginia Tech?

1221
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,880
Well, it depends.
Do you like your linebacker

1222
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:07,520
play?
Do you like, do you feel

1223
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,360
confident in your linebackers
and coverage?

1224
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:13,880
Depends on which one you talked
about.

1225
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,120
Depends on which one you're
talking about.

1226
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,080
There's there's three, so we're
going to try and.

1227
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:18,800
Take advantage of the weaker 1
so.

1228
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,200
Yeah, yeah.
So probably not not not great.

1229
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:23,880
Not great.
Yeah, we don't.

1230
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,160
See Malik, I'd say Malik
Rutherford then.

1231
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:31,800
Now, if you look at the like
passing efficiency of Haines

1232
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,520
King, it's like set.
It was like 75% at one point.

1233
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,120
Very deceptive.
We like to throw the ball behind

1234
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:39,880
the scrimmage a lot or five
yards and a lot of screens, a

1235
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,960
lot of quick throws.
And we've done that a lot to

1236
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,480
Malik where he just, you know,
we we cross block it or crack

1237
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,040
block it.
I don't think you can call it

1238
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,200
crack block anymore.
You kind of rub up against the

1239
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:51,920
guy without killing them
nowadays.

1240
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,360
But I like Malik in that
matchup.

1241
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,440
Singleton junior was a true was
a freshman All American last

1242
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:05,480
year crack *10200m guy.
We just have not done well with

1243
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,320
Hanes King throwing down the
field.

1244
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,760
However I think Pyron can do
better.

1245
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,960
But what you're yeah you're
past.

1246
01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,360
Your secondary is pretty cracked
though so probably won't go that

1247
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,000
route.
Probably rather go with Malik

1248
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:19,960
there.
Yeah.

1249
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,600
And you got one of our
linebackers, Kiante Jenkins is

1250
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,920
effectively, he plays an outside
linebacker spot, but he's coming

1251
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,080
over from playing safety.
So that's where it's like when

1252
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,200
when we talk about some of those
slot guys that, you know, you

1253
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,800
watch with all the defenses,
right?

1254
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,360
Like there's usually a converted
safety doing something near the

1255
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,880
line of scrimmage.
And sometimes if they're really

1256
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:45,280
good, they can they can lock up
a slot receiver if they suck

1257
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,080
slots eat all day.
And it's crazy to say.

1258
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:50,640
That that's exposed.
Yeah.

1259
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:54,440
And I mean, outside we're pretty
good with Delane and Strong.

1260
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:58,720
So if if we get into those
situations, it sounds like what

1261
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,280
you're telling me is that what
we're going to need to do do

1262
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:05,960
good is track the slot in the in
the running back and tackle

1263
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,800
well, because they're going to
get the ball quickly in space.

1264
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,920
And we're going to need to
tackle to avoid getting into

1265
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,680
those, you know, 2nd and short,
3rd and short situations.

1266
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,880
Because I mean this, this is a
defense for the Hokies that

1267
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:22,280
thrives on getting into second
and third down and long where we

1268
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,240
can send our defensive line
after your quarterback.

1269
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:29,480
Yeah, and boy, was it Powell
Rylan is is a hoss.

1270
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,160
What?
What is, is he a junior?

1271
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:35,000
What is his class?
He's a senior.

1272
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:38,120
He's a senior, yeah.
So you see many more He's.

1273
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,520
Going to go pretty high in the
draft then.

1274
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:43,160
I think he's leading the
conference in sacks, tackles for

1275
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:47,000
loss, a lot of different stats.
Yeah, he's, he's number one in

1276
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:50,520
the country right now, actually.
So he took over that moniker

1277
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,360
this week.
Actually, he was 5th going into

1278
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,840
Thursday and by the close of
Saturday he was number 1.

1279
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:59,600
So he had four against Boston
College there.

1280
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,680
And just, I mean, he's been,
he's been as advertised really

1281
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,360
start to finish that so far this
year.

1282
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,200
And, you know, we're really
excited about what that

1283
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,560
defensive line has done as a
whole, especially when it comes

1284
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,280
to getting after the passer.
It'll be interesting, George.

1285
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,480
I think Tech's only given up two
or three sacks all year.

1286
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,760
I mean, they're near the top of
the country and given sacks up.

1287
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:22,840
So be interesting to see that
match up Tech, you know, likes

1288
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,240
to run the RPO game, which is
really the modern day version of

1289
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,800
the triple option.
So we might just work on taking

1290
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,920
him out of some plays and you
know, maybe some other guys can

1291
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:33,640
make some plays but decided to
see it.

1292
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,560
Yeah, they did that a little bit
with Vandy when we played Vandy.

1293
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,320
So I'm I'm imagining there's
going to be a little bit of that

1294
01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,600
mixed in as well, trying to
neutralize him as much as

1295
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,040
possible.
Like I said, that's why first

1296
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,320
down is so important for
Virginia Tech from a defensive

1297
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,320
standpoint, because if we can
get you in long situations on

1298
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:55,480
2nd and 3rd, that's when we can,
you know, really do the things

1299
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,400
that we like to do.
Oh yeah, I did.

1300
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:03,080
I did also confirm real quick
Haynes King, 30.7% of his passes

1301
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:04,520
this year have been behind on
scrimmage.

1302
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,760
That's tied with Quinn viewers
from most of the Power 4.

1303
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,720
So yes, lots of big, big heavy
dose, short, short.

1304
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,760
Quick.
Why is the SBM not hired to you,

1305
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,040
Sheldon?
Like you're just like a machine

1306
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,080
with these stats, man.
Like I think just.

1307
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:19,359
I'm just a monkey on a keyboard,
man.

1308
01:08:19,359 --> 01:08:20,120
I'm I'm typing.
Away.

1309
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:24,080
We're not golfing.
You don't have to sandbag me or

1310
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:24,880
nothing.
We're not.

1311
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,040
And that does make a lot of
sense with the number of sacks.

1312
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,359
Passing that much time behind
the line of scrimmage tells you

1313
01:08:32,359 --> 01:08:35,279
y'all want to get that ball out
quick, quick, quick.

1314
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,000
Let's flip over to the tackle
guys.

1315
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:39,760
Yeah, got to tackle, got to
tackle, be nice behind the line

1316
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:41,680
of scrimmage a lot.
Let's talk about your defense

1317
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,840
next, though.
Obviously Santucci's your DC,

1318
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,800
but obviously so much of this is
coming from Brent Key and you

1319
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:51,520
know what he's instilled there.
And you know, I've got some

1320
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,359
really good players, but the one
that jumped out to me was

1321
01:08:54,359 --> 01:08:57,600
Trenelius Tatum.
I hope I butchered that as well

1322
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:02,240
as I did your show's name there.
By some miracle you pronounced

1323
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,000
it correct, so.
I win.

1324
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:06,800
Everybody golf.
Clap for Curtis.

1325
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:09,040
Everybody golf clap on that
because man, when I look.

1326
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,240
At Curtis.
Not only some of the some of the

1327
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,000
tape and you know, watching him
in a few games this year, but

1328
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,439
also his stat lines.
He seems like he is everywhere

1329
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:20,479
at all times.
Is he?

1330
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,399
Do you consider him your best
defensive player or what do you

1331
01:09:24,399 --> 01:09:26,880
think?
No, I mean, he's a guy that's

1332
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,880
that's been there a while, got a
lot of experience and look, he's

1333
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:34,319
made some good plays for us.
The the killer in this game for

1334
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:39,000
Tech is that Kyle Efford will
most likely be out too.

1335
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:42,279
He was.
He injured his shoulder at UNCI.

1336
01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:45,840
Think he said he's practicing a
black jersey, but that was our

1337
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:50,960
most surefire run stopper, which
is 100% what Tech needs in this

1338
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,080
game, so he's probably been.
Hey, let me ask a question.

1339
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,440
Good.
Who was the dude in the first

1340
01:09:56,440 --> 01:10:00,600
game that looked like a made-up
linebacker?

1341
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,280
Was that him?
Was that the Kyle kid?

1342
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:05,480
With the with the cowboy collar.
On Yeah, Yeah.

1343
01:10:05,480 --> 01:10:07,520
Yeah, that that's him.
I don't know why that's made a

1344
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,560
comeback.
It went out of style for like 10

1345
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:11,320
years and now they're back.
But yeah.

1346
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,920
Y'all go look him up in that
first game that that Georgia

1347
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,680
Tech played and see if you want
us to play against him.

1348
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,040
No, we don't want to play
against him.

1349
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,480
Because he looked like he
looked.

1350
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:22,280
Like one of them boys off the
program.

1351
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:28,720
The movie, and I think he was on
steroids that first game, so I'm

1352
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,240
just saying.
He looks, he looks.

1353
01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,440
Like a linebacker dog.
Yeah, it's part of our nutrition

1354
01:10:34,440 --> 01:10:35,440
program.
That's right.

1355
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:36,960
Hey.
You got to you got to do what

1356
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,520
you got to do and you know,
have, I think, you know, when

1357
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,840
you look at that, you know,
Eford is definitely a guy that,

1358
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,760
you know, from your perspective,
sounds like he can impact the

1359
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:54,160
game if he's not able to go, You
know, what do you guys look like

1360
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:55,680
outside?
Because I mean, you know, you

1361
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,080
talked about that may be an area
where we can exploit, but it's

1362
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,360
also an area where we haven't
necessarily been as dynamic as

1363
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:04,920
we want to be.
If we're throwing outside, if

1364
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,480
we're throwing down the field,
who's going to be the guy that

1365
01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:11,600
can make some plays?
Who We've been pretty awful

1366
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,840
defending the past.
The stats don't necessarily show

1367
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,840
that.
Are just the straight ACC

1368
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,040
rankings of like total past
defense.

1369
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,560
I think we only have like 2
picks on the year, so only two

1370
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:26,320
takeaways.
And really that a lot of that

1371
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:30,200
comes down to our pass rush is
just flat out awful.

1372
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,800
We just do not get after the
quarterback that I mean, look, a

1373
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,080
good quarterback.
Like who's the guy for Syracuse?

1374
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,000
Kyle McCord, he, he almost had
300 yards before half.

1375
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,440
It's just because we couldn't
get to them.

1376
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:49,480
So that you know, if you look at
I, when I preview the games and

1377
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:52,280
I'll, I'll record 1 after this
for tomorrow.

1378
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:57,120
If I, I like to think of what is
1 stat I could get from the game

1379
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,040
that I think would tell me who
won it.

1380
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,680
It might, it might be the
passing yards for Virginia Tech.

1381
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,960
If you can really balance your
run with being able to throw on

1382
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,720
us like most people do,
Tooting's going to have a

1383
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,520
monster day because then because
then we can't just commit,

1384
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,240
commit to the run.
We we do have some experience

1385
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:20,120
there, the Miles Brooks at
safety, Clayton Powell, Lee,

1386
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,520
Amari Harvey.
It's just we get in positions to

1387
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,160
make plays and we don't make
plays a lot of times and it's

1388
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:30,200
just tough.
Yeah, and and you said it just a

1389
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:34,720
second ago about the pass rush,
your eyes ain't fooling. 126th

1390
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:41,160
in the country in team sacks.
So, you know, and obviously if

1391
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,840
that's happening, I know Shelton
wants to bring this up now, he's

1392
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,440
got a little something on the
secondary there.

1393
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:49,320
But obviously if you're not
getting past rush, you could

1394
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,920
have an elite secondary.
It's just it's not going to show

1395
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,880
at all points in time.
Sheldon, what you got, man?

1396
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,160
Yeah, looking over the defensive
numbers, I think the biggest

1397
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:00,640
bugaboo has been, you know, the
past defense.

1398
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:06,680
Right now Georgia Tech is 103rd
114th in drop back success rate

1399
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,080
against, you know, right at
4043% there.

1400
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,040
Why do you think it is that the
secondary has struggled?

1401
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,120
The secondary, yeah, I mean, I
think we're talking about it.

1402
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,840
I mean a big part is they can
only cover for so long.

1403
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,680
I don't care how good of a
corner you are, if you're manned

1404
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,680
up, there's only so long you can
cover them or in zone.

1405
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,680
We've really, we've really done
better playing man because I

1406
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,720
think that simplifies things for
your backs a little more.

1407
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,480
Hey, that's my guy.
As opposed to playing zone and

1408
01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:35,840
really feeling where's the
quarterback looking in your

1409
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,720
periphery, you know, what are
the wide receivers doing?

1410
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:41,160
I got crossers coming.
I need to step up or whatever.

1411
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,600
And he talked about it a lot in
the press conference.

1412
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,320
I think a lot of its confidence
too.

1413
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,840
I don't think we're just
untalented in the secondary.

1414
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,280
I think when you get lit up game
after game, you kind of have

1415
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,360
this impending doom feeling
where it's like, man, it like

1416
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,680
here it goes again.
They just dropped a, you know,

1417
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,000
35 yard throw on us.
Here we go again.

1418
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:03,080
So I think, I think it's a
little both of those.

1419
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:05,640
Yeah, we know what I'm.
Saying right here.

1420
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,600
We know that feeling, but most
of the time with Virginia Tech

1421
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:13,160
is, oh Lord, the quarterback
just scrambled for 35 yards

1422
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:18,800
again that.
Happens to you when you're not

1423
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,680
rushing the passer very well.
I can almost guarantee you,

1424
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,200
you're not being very
disciplined in pass rush lanes

1425
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,600
where a mobile quarterback can
step up and not be touched for,

1426
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,880
you know, 8-9 yards either that
that's happened a lot.

1427
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:35,120
Yeah, And just kind of feeding
off that, I think, you know,

1428
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:39,680
when we look at, you know, what
Kyron drones can do against this

1429
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,000
defense, you know, if we say the
the over under sitting there at

1430
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,840
2:15 and we hit the over, what
you're telling me is you

1431
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,160
probably like the chances of
that being a hokey win.

1432
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,280
I'd say 90% likely you're
winning the game.

1433
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:56,600
Well at 2:15, I put it at 2:50.
If he throws for more than 250,

1434
01:14:56,840 --> 01:15:00,520
I would say, I would say 98%
likely all we are winning this

1435
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,280
game.
I mean, he's had some good games

1436
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:07,000
here, especially get Stanford,
who I think from a defensive

1437
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,360
passing efficiency standpoint
was probably about in the same

1438
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:15,080
ballpark as Georgia Tech.
If we can do that and and still

1439
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,720
have some success on the ground,
then I think I think we're

1440
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,600
putting ourselves in a pretty
good position there.

1441
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:21,320
So it's going to come down to
that.

1442
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,760
And I think, you know, Sheldon
has spoken to it to a point.

1443
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,920
You know, Kyron's had a pretty
good amount of success against

1444
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,840
man, he's gotten better against
throwing against the zone.

1445
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:36,240
So we'll see if we can get some
consistency in this game and

1446
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:38,840
give give a good compliment to
what we can do in the running

1447
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:43,360
game with with Tooting there.
Yeah, and I don't.

1448
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,440
I'm sure Shelton, you've got the
stats sitting right above you

1449
01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:47,440
somewhere.
I don't.

1450
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,680
I think the last time we dropped
a game beyond Blacksburg was

1451
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,320
2012.
Whatever reason we played well

1452
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,200
in got it.
You knew it.

1453
01:15:56,440 --> 01:15:59,720
Of course you did.
Well, to be fair, I saw, I saw a

1454
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,080
Twitter graphic earlier today
and I was like, yeah, it's been.

1455
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,120
But they've only played three
times though, or maybe four

1456
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:05,960
times I think.
Yeah, 20. 12.

1457
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:08,680
In Blacksburg, yeah.
Yeah, and.

1458
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:10,600
Bill Bill Roth dropped it out
there.

1459
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:15,560
I think the there's only been
like what, one home victory in

1460
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:18,800
this matchup in like the last 15
years or something like that.

1461
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,560
Like, yeah, I was, I was at that
game.

1462
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,600
I was at Bobby Dodd Stadium when
it happened.

1463
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:27,080
I think it was 20.
No, I think it was 2017.

1464
01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,520
Greg Stroman.
Greg Stroman picked one off and

1465
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,320
took it back.
And then I think we only, I

1466
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,200
think that was the year Cam
Phillips was that guy.

1467
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,120
And they they beat us at Bobby
Dodd.

1468
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,200
And I was there and I was sad,
yeah.

1469
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,600
Was it 09 when you all ranked
4th?

1470
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,200
And y'all, I know y'all had a
really mobile quarterback.

1471
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,040
We, we pulled one out at Bobby
Dodd.

1472
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:51,600
I think Gailey might even been
our coach.

1473
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,600
It's been a while, I just
remember being that.

1474
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,040
Curtis is is dialing back in the
history books, I think.

1475
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,520
Yeah, let me get to history
books here.

1476
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,760
I always, the one that always
stands out to us and we can do a

1477
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,520
little history is the Calvin
Johnson year because we were a

1478
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:10,120
significantly better team than
y'all and we could not cover

1479
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,320
that specimen on the field that
day.

1480
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:20,240
That was O that was O 6 because
I got to attend the 2005 game.

1481
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,960
Go look at that one wreck talk.
That was game day was on site

1482
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,160
and that was an absolute.
I'm sure you probably drink a

1483
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:31,600
lot that day because of the ass
whipping that was put on because

1484
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,120
that was an ugly game and I was
blacked out in the stands.

1485
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,400
Well, I mean, Calvin, to be
fair, Calvin Johnson, if you

1486
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:44,080
just created a wide receiver in
Madden and maxed all his stats

1487
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:46,960
out, you would get something
like Calvin Johnson.

1488
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,440
I mean, the dude's just a
freaking I'm, I'm pissed at the

1489
01:17:50,440 --> 01:17:55,240
lines to this day for screwing
his career up in the pros. 100%

1490
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,800
Korea.
And you're right, it was 2009.

1491
01:17:59,120 --> 01:18:02,600
Tyrod Taylor was the quarterback
that year, so.

1492
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:07,560
And I think Roman Reigns was the
one bringing him to the ground.

1493
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:09,960
Oh my God.
He's crazy.

1494
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:11,720
It might have been before that,
actually.

1495
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,360
I don't know.
I know Joanna White played here.

1496
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,200
Yes, he did.
No, he he was.

1497
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:17,840
That would have been about the
time frame for him.

1498
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,320
Yeah, I don't know if it was
late game, but he was definitely

1499
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,760
that time.
It was that time frame for him.

1500
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,000
Pretty crazy to think about it.
Well, man, listen, we want you

1501
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,520
to go ahead, tell everybody
where they can find you.

1502
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,720
If you got YouTube channel,
Twitter, rec talk, where can

1503
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:34,880
they find you and anything
special you're talking about as

1504
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,960
you record this evening?
Yeah, so the YouTube channel is

1505
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,040
Rec Talk, not Rec Tech.
If you search Rec Tech, I don't

1506
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,680
know what will come up, but it's
probably not me.

1507
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,000
I'm at at Rec under score Talk
on Twitter because my other one

1508
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:52,720
got hacked by like sex bots.
I don't know if that says about

1509
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,680
anything about what I search on
the Internet, but hey, yeah, so

1510
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,720
it's at Rec under score Talk.
I'll do a preview video this

1511
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,880
week.
I do power rankings every week,

1512
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,280
usually on Monday.
I'll be picking the spread

1513
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:08,120
probably tomorrow, the day
after.

1514
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:12,600
And a caveat with that, if you
want to speed run the poor

1515
01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,400
house, go ahead and bet a lot on
sports.

1516
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:16,920
I don't do it and you shouldn't
either.

1517
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,920
But yeah, so I should have those
coming out probably.

1518
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:24,280
Sea Dog and I will be streaming
this game Saturday on his

1519
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:26,600
channel.
If you just look up Sea Dog,

1520
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,520
you'll see us both probably
losing our minds.

1521
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,960
Usually my voice is like an
octave lower after those games

1522
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,640
because I don't know about you
guys.

1523
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:36,640
I take it hard.
I mean, I take it hard.

1524
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,960
Not as hard as it used to be,
but you sound like me in our

1525
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:46,640
text chain during games.
Curtis, Curtis is we talked

1526
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,000
about earlier, Curtis is a
roller coaster ride during

1527
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,200
games.
You got, you got to ride the

1528
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,680
waves, you got to ride the
waves.

1529
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,440
You got you got to hope that
that they turn it around because

1530
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:59,040
sometimes Curtis, anytime we're
playing bad, we're the worst

1531
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,920
team in the ACC.
No country, not even the ACC

1532
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,080
country.
But listen, rec talk, man.

1533
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,280
We appreciate you taking a
little bit of your time tonight

1534
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,000
to talk a little Georgia Tech
with us.

1535
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,560
Nice meeting you man.
And, and again, as everybody we

1536
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,040
see, maybe one day we make it to
Atlanta, you make it to

1537
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,120
Blacksburg, we'll meet up and
say what's up, have a beer

1538
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:19,800
together.
Can't do, man.

1539
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:21,720
I tell you what, y'all.
Come on down, Tally.

1540
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,040
I'll take you to the cheetah.
You know what I'm talking about,

1541
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,280
all right?
Babe, thanks.

1542
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,200
Have a good one, thanks.
For your saying that, appreciate

1543
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,120
it Tally it's only two and a
half hour drive, right?

1544
01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:36,240
Oh yeah, I'll be over there all
the time, man.

1545
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,360
That's it.
Whenever we play down there.

1546
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:42,840
Got to love it, got to love it.
The Kyle effort thing must have

1547
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,640
just came out because I was
looking up about effort.

1548
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:49,120
That's big for them because that
guy's got 50 plus tackles.

1549
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:52,520
So losing him is definitely
could open up some things for

1550
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:54,960
the run game because the Shelton
point, they don't have a good

1551
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,120
pass T, but they do have pretty
good run D.

1552
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,680
So let's flip it over.
Let's talk about some hokey keys

1553
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:05,840
before we give our predictions.
Shelton, what is your key this

1554
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,400
weekend?
Man, why did it have to go

1555
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:13,040
first?
Because Kali gets mad when I

1556
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,560
pick him.
You put me on the spot.

1557
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:22,160
I don't know.
I think I would say defensively

1558
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,080
I I'd focus there, just, you
know, make sure you pressure the

1559
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,200
QB.
I think, you know, get off

1560
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:28,600
blocks.
Again, like we talked about,

1561
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,280
this is a Georgia Tech team that
really loves to, you know, work

1562
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,680
the short game.
So you got to, you know, make

1563
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,520
sure you're getting off blocks,
you know, attacking downhill,

1564
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,680
being physical and just, you
know, you know, run into the

1565
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:40,120
ball carrier.
That's that's the biggest for

1566
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,480
the defense.
I think, you know, Georgia Tech

1567
01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:46,520
has some holes on defense, but
it's the offense for GT that I'm

1568
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:47,720
a little bit more concerned
about.

1569
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,160
So just try to, you know, try to
limit their short passing game.

1570
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,840
Got it, Tally, Just because
that's up for you there.

1571
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:56,600
Hey.
The lemon pepper wings at the

1572
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,400
strip club are always lemon
pepper wet.

1573
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:02,640
Yeah, so you know what?
You know what damn it, we done

1574
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,720
had a lot of stuff going on on
this show and I've been writing

1575
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,960
down stuff that y'all been doing
over here today and y'all need

1576
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:12,680
to get your acts together.
Talking about wings being wet at

1577
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:16,440
the at the strip club.
That's that's something that I'm

1578
01:22:16,440 --> 01:22:20,520
going to talk to Jack about.
That's number one, Sheldon said

1579
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,400
bugaboo earlier he.
Did say you know.

1580
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,760
He said Bugaboo earlier.
I heard it, Brian said.

1581
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:30,440
Gangbuster.
You know, I don't know how to

1582
01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:34,000
feel about Brian saying
Gangbuster and talking about wet

1583
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,360
wings at a club.
There's a lot going on.

1584
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,440
He also said Curtis was a roller
coaster ride.

1585
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:41,480
I am a roller coaster ride.
What's going?

1586
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,360
On that might be a shirt, right?
Hey, what?

1587
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,080
I'll put your my heads.
Hey, man.

1588
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:48,360
Y'all need to go to church?
On tally, said pause.

1589
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,280
What is going on today?
And last but not least, Rick

1590
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,960
Talk said he takes it hard.
He said it a couple of times.

1591
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,440
This show's got a little while
today.

1592
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,480
I'm going to ring it back in.
Really.

1593
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:01,120
Back in?
Bring it.

1594
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,640
Back in Cal, what's the key?
Key to US winning is to stay

1595
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,360
ugly.
We need to be ugly.

1596
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,240
We don't need to get cute.
You know, every time we get

1597
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,160
cute, we do something stupid.
I think last week we had it

1598
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:15,000
rolling.
We put the backup quarterback in

1599
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,600
to try to do something.
We lost some yards and then some

1600
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,040
crazy stuff start happening.
Hey, the stuff that's working,

1601
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,960
let's just keep it working.
Let's get just stay ugly.

1602
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,200
Let's just be us.
That's what I think all.

1603
01:23:28,280 --> 01:23:32,120
Right, Bron?
Siegel, continue to be who you

1604
01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,560
are, man.
I think we finally showed what

1605
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:38,680
this team is capable of.
I think we've seen it

1606
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,400
consistently the last really
three weeks, you know,

1607
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,840
back-to-back here that we've had
a game.

1608
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,160
That's the team that I expected
to start a year and just keep

1609
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:50,080
being that team.
If you keep being that team, you

1610
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:52,680
know everybody in front of you
is pretty much on the table for

1611
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:58,520
AW, so that's what you got to
do. 100% And my key is treat to

1612
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:02,760
back up like a starter, treat
Zach like he's saying he's team

1613
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,520
and I think maybe the best thing
going in that is what he did in

1614
01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,880
2022 here.
He did not have a great game

1615
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,320
coming in that week, but he beat
us.

1616
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,720
And I think sometimes just show
the film like this guy can come

1617
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,160
down here and win.
Don't think he's a backup.

1618
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,320
Go out there, hit him as hard as
you would hit Haynes King.

1619
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,880
Make him pay for his runs.
He decides to hold it on to an

1620
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:25,520
extra second, strip the ball
from him.

1621
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,160
So do not act like that.
He is a backup quarterback.

1622
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,040
All right, let's get to the
predictions here.

1623
01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:34,720
And you know what?
I'm going to go first this week

1624
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:38,720
because you know y'all let me
run the controls and I am going

1625
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,400
to go with a Hokies win.
I don't think it's going to

1626
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,080
quite be the blowout like last
week.

1627
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,680
I do not think we're going to
cover this, but I think we're

1628
01:24:45,680 --> 01:24:51,120
going to win 27 to 18, Going to
have a couple big ones.

1629
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:54,520
I know we know talking about
that rush defensive theirs

1630
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:58,520
without the man in the middle
and even if he comes in, y'all

1631
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:02,040
know if you have some sort of
injury, there's going to be

1632
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,880
something limited.
So in that case, we're on Adam.

1633
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:10,880
Give me 2718 pokies.
Hang on for A2 score Win Brian.

1634
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,360
I got us winning, I got us
covering.

1635
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,400
Give me 3420 Hokies.
I think we go out there and take

1636
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,960
care of business.
I think that we are going to see

1637
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:23,240
similar type of success through
the air and on the ground like

1638
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:25,880
we saw again Stanford.
I think it is going to be a

1639
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:27,560
pretty balanced 1.
I think we will have a little

1640
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:29,800
bit more success in the running
game that we had against

1641
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,360
Stanford.
But overall, I think we handled

1642
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:35,360
that business for four quarters.
3420 Hokies.

1643
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:39,840
Yep, and actually it was 9 1/2
so something else has changed

1644
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:44,360
because the spreads went up to
11 1/2 now so I did not know

1645
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:46,800
that I thought it was at 9:00,
so I'm not covering Brian still

1646
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:48,680
got covering Sheldon.
What about you?

1647
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,480
I'll.
Take Vt 27 to 17.

1648
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,520
I think augments will be fine.
I just don't.

1649
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,880
I don't trust GT with their
quarterback situation.

1650
01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,960
They'll they'll get a couple
touchdowns but that's it.

1651
01:25:59,960 --> 01:26:03,400
So Hoagies won't quite cover,
but I do believe it will be the

1652
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,680
first time in the Brent pie era
that the Hokies do not win by 17

1653
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,000
or more points.
All right, John Talley.

1654
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,920
Hey, man, I told you I got to
stay true to it.

1655
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,840
I'm going Georgia Tech.
I'm going to keep doing it.

1656
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,560
Locker room material, Georgia
Tech.

1657
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,120
I say it's going to be a close
game.

1658
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:24,280
Until we prove we can win those
games consistently, I'm going to

1659
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:29,600
continue saying it.
Again, I hate to say it, but if

1660
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,400
it keeps us winning, I'm going
to say it every week.

1661
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:36,840
So we'll go.
Georgia Tech 27/27/21 Georgia

1662
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:40,480
Tech.
All right, there we go. 2721

1663
01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:43,080
Jonathan Talley, there are our
predictions.

1664
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:46,560
Feel free put your predictions
in the comment section.

1665
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:53,320
All right, let's turn it on.
Let's go to big screeners where

1666
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:57,800
last week, other than me and
Tally Tally, we didn't have a

1667
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,160
good week, man.
You got 2 right?

1668
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,440
I got one right.
Everybody else was 500.

1669
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:06,480
I got the money one right.
I did get the the song game,

1670
01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:07,880
right.
That's the only one.

1671
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:12,320
But as of right now, pretty much
everybody's pretty much a coin

1672
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,040
flip except Brian.
He's slightly better than a coin

1673
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:18,440
flip.
So if you got your money, put it

1674
01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:20,760
with Brian.
Maybe, maybe not.

1675
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:26,080
All right, so we got to begin.
We'll get into the the week of

1676
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,360
college football when we get to
choose these.

1677
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:32,120
It's actually it's actually
becoming more difficult because

1678
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,360
there are so many good games on
the slate every week, like

1679
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:39,240
pivotal games for potential
conference championships, rank

1680
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,560
matchup, rivalry games.
So let's start it this week.

1681
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,960
Brian Siegler, where are you
travelling us to?

1682
01:27:46,240 --> 01:27:52,520
College Station, baby, LSU,
Texas A&M, A&M's got that, that

1683
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:55,480
2 1/2 there.
And you know what?

1684
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,760
I haven't really liked what I've
seen overall from this A&M

1685
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,680
squad.
LSUI think it's been a little

1686
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,360
more consistent.
So I'm actually going to take

1687
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:07,000
LSU to cover here and take the
win outright.

1688
01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:11,160
All righty, I'm, I'm going to
get the exact opposite of you.

1689
01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,440
I I think Texas A&M is slowly
finding their identity under

1690
01:28:14,440 --> 01:28:20,040
Elko.
LSU help me beat the Ole Miss,

1691
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:21,880
but they are not in Death
Valley.

1692
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,440
That is going to be a Saturday
night game down at Kyle Field

1693
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,560
late 2 1/2.
I think first of all, get ready

1694
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,400
for a fun game.
I think you know, there's always

1695
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,280
games like watch this game.
It's going to be entertaining.

1696
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:37,480
I think this is going to be an
entertaining game, but A&M slips

1697
01:28:37,480 --> 01:28:40,640
it by like 6 points at the end
to beat LSU.

1698
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:43,920
Sheldon.
I'll take A&M.

1699
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,920
Normally this would be let down
here for the Aggies, but I feel

1700
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,800
like this the first time in a
while the Texas and Ms. had a

1701
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:50,600
real head coach.
I love what Elko's doing, so I

1702
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:51,800
think he's got his boys ready
all.

1703
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,560
Right, Kelly?
I'm a big Elko fan and not a

1704
01:28:57,640 --> 01:29:03,520
Brian Kelly fan but I am AI
think his name is Weeks for LSU

1705
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:07,040
the linebacker.
He is a monster and every time

1706
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,320
I've seen to bet against LSU
they found a way to win.

1707
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,240
So I'm going to go LSU this week
all.

1708
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:17,360
Right, Tally goes LSU, our
wonderful rider Miranda goes LSU

1709
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,160
and the music Man says LSU as
well.

1710
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:26,360
All righty, I am next on this
and I am going to Thursday night

1711
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:28,440
where Matt Berry's trying to
stay out there.

1712
01:29:28,440 --> 01:29:29,880
Pitt, you got a lot to live up
to.

1713
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,800
First of all, Matt, Pitt is not
going to live up to the

1714
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,480
atmosphere or the excitement
that you got on campus and in

1715
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:39,480
Lane Stadium.
So please notate that you're not

1716
01:29:39,480 --> 01:29:42,840
going to get that anywhere else.
Pitt, Syracuse is actually a

1717
01:29:42,840 --> 01:29:46,520
pretty big game within the ACC
Pitt currently undefeated,

1718
01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:53,320
Syracuse only with one loss.
So for this one, I think

1719
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:57,280
Syracuse is going to beat Pit.
I think they going to make Pit

1720
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:02,000
eat shit pimp for some reason
and shell, maybe I'm I'm just

1721
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,800
making it up.
I just yes, they're unbeaten,

1722
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,280
but it's just like it may be the
most unimpressive 6 and O in the

1723
01:30:08,280 --> 01:30:11,760
country.
Maybe, maybe not, but it's yeah,

1724
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,480
look, look it up, see if it's
one of the most unimpressive 6

1725
01:30:14,480 --> 01:30:17,080
and O's in the country.
I know they're big wins West

1726
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,040
Virginia, but I'm taking
Syracuse.

1727
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:20,920
Give me the point.
Syracuse wins outright.

1728
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:25,800
Curtis, I'm going to piggyback
on that and say that these

1729
01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,160
teams, both teams have really
good records and neither of them

1730
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:33,200
are impressive in my opinion,
the five and one or the six and

1731
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,760
O, But in this case, Pitt needs
to eat some shit.

1732
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:40,000
So that's what I'm going with.
Yeah, this was a this was a

1733
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:42,600
tough game to pick.
I mean, I took Syracuse, but

1734
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:45,000
man, I'm, I just, I do not feel
good at all about it.

1735
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:48,720
And I did confirm Pitt has the
the lowest SP plus ranking of

1736
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:50,760
all the undefeated teams in the
power floor.

1737
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:54,360
So, you know, they're, they've
won 39 barely.

1738
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:56,000
Oh damn, they're not even in the
top.

1739
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:57,440
Well, they're, well, actually,
no, sorry.

1740
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,240
They were 30th.
So offense is 39.

1741
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,760
So I mean, they've been, they've
been kind of, you know, fringe,

1742
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,000
you know, top 30 teams.
But I just, I don't know.

1743
01:31:05,000 --> 01:31:07,600
I mean, they've had some breaks
go away, so I'll take Syracuse.

1744
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:11,960
Yeah, I'm going to go Syracuse
as well.

1745
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,040
Again, I'm kind of like Brian.
I mean, I think both teams are

1746
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:20,360
solid teams, but, you know, not
the hype that kind of most

1747
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:21,560
people were kind of throwing
out.

1748
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:25,080
But I think Syracuse wins this
just because I need Pitt to

1749
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:27,160
lose.
So we're going to go.

1750
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:30,600
We're going to go Syracuse.
There we go.

1751
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:35,480
Miranda's riding with us, guys.
Jason is going the other way.

1752
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:37,800
He's he's taking the Panthers
here.

1753
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,440
I hope you're wrong, Jason, so
I'm going to let you know that

1754
01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:43,960
right now.
Shelton Moss, where are you

1755
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:47,040
going this.
Week Let's Go game day is going

1756
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,760
to Indiana for the first time
ever after we got Cal a couple

1757
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,960
weeks ago.
My goal is for What is that?

1758
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:58,600
Does that mean the only place of
the Power 5 to never host is it?

1759
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:00,800
Is it official now?
No, it's not official.

1760
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,520
There's still like.
Five.

1761
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,040
That's 5.
Yeah, like they've never been to

1762
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:08,000
Syracuse, but a couple others.
But my goal is for everyone to

1763
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,080
host except for UVA.
That'd be that'd be a admirable,

1764
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,800
most admirable.
Yes, yes.

1765
01:32:15,480 --> 01:32:17,480
So, but anyways, I think this
will be a really fun match up.

1766
01:32:17,480 --> 01:32:19,360
There is some uncertainty with
Andy and his QB.

1767
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:23,520
That being said, I will take
Washington because again, I

1768
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,480
just, I think it is coming off a
big win.

1769
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:27,280
They don't know if their QB is
going to start.

1770
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:32,240
So give me the Huskies.
You know what, I'm going to have

1771
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,040
to go the other direction here.
I think, I think Indiana's

1772
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:36,520
playing really good football
right now.

1773
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:41,040
I think if the quarterback is
able to go, I'm going to like

1774
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:44,120
them to cover that 6 1/2.
So let me go with Indiana and

1775
01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:46,880
we'll and we'll see if the if
the quarterback goes, but I'll,

1776
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:48,640
I'll take that that risk right
now.

1777
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,400
Yeah, they made me, they made
all of us look foolish last

1778
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:53,560
week.
I'm not betting against them

1779
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,840
right now.
Give me Indiana, I'll lay 6 1/2

1780
01:32:56,160 --> 01:33:00,480
versus Washington.
You know Sheldon's got UW tally.

1781
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:02,680
I got to go to Indiana, like
Curtis said.

1782
01:33:02,680 --> 01:33:06,040
It kind of made me look crazy,
you know, thinking just what

1783
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,040
they did last week.
So the whole.

1784
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,480
Crew look crazy.
Everybody rode with Nebraska and

1785
01:33:10,480 --> 01:33:13,280
we all had egg on our face.
Man, yes we did, but.

1786
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,480
Miranda's riding with with the
boys here, and so is Jason.

1787
01:33:19,480 --> 01:33:21,000
So, Sheldon, you're out there on
the island.

1788
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:22,880
On the island, it's his game.
I'm.

1789
01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:24,640
I'm the Kurt Curb Street right
now.

1790
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:26,360
There you go.
All against the green.

1791
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:31,920
All righty Taliban, what is your
game, Sir?

1792
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:35,600
Man, we're going to go to, you
know, Vandy in in Texas here.

1793
01:33:36,040 --> 01:33:39,440
Texas is coming off of a loss.
You know, Vandy's kind of riding

1794
01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:42,440
high this this this year in
general.

1795
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:48,720
I don't think Vandy wins this
game, but I think Vandy covers

1796
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:50,520
that spread.
I think they're going to make it

1797
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,080
a heart attack game for Texas
just because Povy is a gamer.

1798
01:33:54,480 --> 01:33:59,400
So I'm going Vandy this game.
You know, what I've learned

1799
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,400
watching some of these
Vanderbilt games is that

1800
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:06,520
Vanderbilt absolutely plays to
whatever the competition level

1801
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:11,360
is of their opponent.
They, they, they played down to

1802
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:13,960
the, to the ball states of the
world.

1803
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,440
You know, they, they, they took
a loss to AG5 school, but they

1804
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,920
beaten Alabama.
They played what, Missouri

1805
01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:24,440
Pretty tough.
You know, I think this is a team

1806
01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:27,480
that kind of matches the energy
of whoever their opponent is.

1807
01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:30,600
So 18 1/2 is way too much there.
So give me Vandy here.

1808
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:36,160
Yep, I'm with you.
Way too much. 18 1/2 is way too

1809
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:39,040
much.
And also watching Texas's

1810
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:43,480
defense, they had a couple very
difficult times defending some

1811
01:34:43,480 --> 01:34:46,720
of those runs against Georgia.
And I know it's a little bit of

1812
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:50,480
different style, but they've
shown sort of the flaw and it's

1813
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:53,600
probably that rush defense.
And again, I don't know, Jerry

1814
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:57,880
Keel and Tim Beck and Clark Lee
are going to lean on fall

1815
01:34:57,880 --> 01:34:59,960
control.
We're going to run the ball a

1816
01:34:59,960 --> 01:35:02,160
lot.
It's in Nashville.

1817
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,160
Josh, just put that up there in
the chat.

1818
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:08,520
Josh Young shout out.
I think they beat them by like a

1819
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:12,040
field goal.
Texas is going to hold out, but

1820
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,120
Vanderbilt is going to shock
their life.

1821
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,000
Sheldon.
Vanderbilt's actually been one

1822
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,280
of the top ten teams in the
country in terms of

1823
01:35:19,480 --> 01:35:21,920
outperforming the spread based
on point totals.

1824
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,040
For whatever reason, the
computers have just had a hard

1825
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,640
time with this scene this year.
For that reason, I'm taking

1826
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,920
Vandy. 18.5 just sounds way too
big.

1827
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:33,560
Yep, and we are riding as a
family.

1828
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:38,160
Sandy across the board, baby.
Sandy, across the board, you

1829
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,320
ever think you see that a day in
your life?

1830
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:44,360
Everybody picking Vandy with
points against a program like

1831
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:48,520
Texas, Not I, not I.
All righty, let's roll next.

1832
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:53,640
We've got Miranda's pick, which
I almost picked this one.

1833
01:35:53,800 --> 01:36:00,080
We got Notre Dame against
undefeated Navy, undefeated top

1834
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:03,800
25 ranked Navy.
It's going to be at the gorgeous

1835
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:08,080
Annapolis Stadium where I love.
I got a chance to go and watch

1836
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:12,360
the Hokies play.
Navy getting 12 1/2 points.

1837
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,120
Brian, where are you on this
one?

1838
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,160
Yeah, and it's the 12 1/2 for
me.

1839
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,080
I think Notre Dame does win this
game, but it's a very good year

1840
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:22,880
for the service academies in
general and a very good year for

1841
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:26,320
Navy so far.
And I think their style of play,

1842
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:29,360
if, if Notre Dame doesn't jump
out on them quick offensively,

1843
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,280
they're going to grind that game
to a halt.

1844
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:34,800
I could see Notre Dame pulling,
pulling out a 10 point win, but

1845
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,200
that's about it.
So I'm going with baby here.

1846
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:41,680
Yeah, and you, you just
summarize exactly why 12 1/2 is

1847
01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:47,560
way too much.
And right now they are 7 and O

1848
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:53,720
excuse me, 6 and O The closest
game they have had this year is

1849
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:59,800
a 12 point win against Memphis.
They hung 56 on Memphis.

1850
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:02,640
No one has slowed them down all
year.

1851
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,200
I do think Notre Dame slows them
down, but not to the tune of 12

1852
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:12,480
1/2 points.
Yeah, historically, historically

1853
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:15,200
Notre Dame is dominated as
rivalry and they've they've had

1854
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:17,040
a pretty easy time with maybe
even in recent years.

1855
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,160
So I think it's a good match up
for for Notre Dame and I'll take

1856
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:24,920
the Irish.
Laying 12 1/2 when that first

1857
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,960
drive hold on when that first
drive takes 9 minutes, Sheldon

1858
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:29,880
going to be worried about his 12
1/2 points.

1859
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,640
Like why did that take so long,
Tally?

1860
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,360
Yeah, I got to go Navy here just
for the fact that if I if I

1861
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,240
didn't think my brother may kill
me.

1862
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:42,000
So I'm going to go Navy.
From the fart.

1863
01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:46,160
Miranda's ride with Sheldon and
Jason's coming along with the

1864
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:49,520
rest of us here.
By the way, betting on games

1865
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:52,720
that involve teams that run the
triple option, like when you are

1866
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:56,120
laying points, it's a it's like
one of the worst fields ever

1867
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:59,040
when they when they get going on
their first drive and you'd like

1868
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,000
you're laying 13 and it's like
that.

1869
01:38:01,000 --> 01:38:05,960
Even if they get a field goal
here, like we my team still

1870
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,080
going to win this game, but they
win by like 9.

1871
01:38:10,760 --> 01:38:16,160
All right, we got our buddy
Jason Long, always playing a

1872
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:19,800
little music, always picking a
game, occasionally going broke

1873
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:23,400
and asking us for Venmo money.
He did not have to do that last

1874
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:24,440
week.
He actually had a pretty good

1875
01:38:24,440 --> 01:38:27,760
week in his NFL bet.
So he got, he's not hitting me

1876
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,520
and Brian up for gambling funds
this week, but he is going to

1877
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:55,400
the Nebraska, Ohio State game.
I want to stand on you ain't

1878
01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:02,840
gonna start.
You better stop.

1879
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:08,200
Not a thing to do.
When I said wipe down, I ain't

1880
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:20,520
done.
This.

1881
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:49,840
Hey, welcome back to Guitar
Licks and Gambling Picks.

1882
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:52,840
I'm Jason Long and it's close to
Halloween, so it's playing

1883
01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:54,400
around with one of my favorite
songs.

1884
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,920
I Put a Spell on You.
A bunch of people have covered

1885
01:39:56,920 --> 01:40:00,800
that song, say Nuna Simone, CCR,
The Sanderson Sisters.

1886
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,600
Hell, I even recorded it last
year, put it on a little album

1887
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,640
called Other People's Children
and you can find that anywhere

1888
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:10,560
you buy or stream music.
Now, the original artist and

1889
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,360
songwriter of that song is
actually a guy named Screaming

1890
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:16,640
Jay Hawkins, who was born and
raised in Ohio.

1891
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,960
That just so happens to be where
I'm looking at for this week's

1892
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:23,600
pick.
Now, Nebraska travels to Ohio

1893
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:28,040
State Saturday, and they're
looking like they're big, big,

1894
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:30,920
big underdogs.
Ohio State is currently giving

1895
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:35,760
up 23 1/2 points.
That's a scary amount of points

1896
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:39,040
to give up, but in honor of
spooky season and screaming

1897
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:43,560
jiffy, I figured might as well
go ahead and lay down 23 1/2

1898
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,400
points.
Ohio State at home against

1899
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:48,800
Nebraska Saturday night.
That's the way I'm rolling Go

1900
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:54,800
bugging us.
I want to stay on you.

1901
01:40:54,840 --> 01:41:11,920
Me going to fire you better
start out of things doing and I

1902
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:22,440
said why down I ain't lying.
I ain't gonna take that as you

1903
01:41:22,480 --> 01:41:23,080
will.
I ain't gonna take.

1904
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:28,600
That on your.
Own I'll burn you and I will

1905
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:33,960
stay on you.
We ain't gonna die.

1906
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:58,840
See you next week, right?
So there we are, Nebraska, Ohio

1907
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:03,840
State in the horseshoe, Ohio
State laying 23 1/2.

1908
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:07,240
We see Jason throwing some big
gambling, laying a lot of

1909
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,120
points.
Brian, what about you?

1910
01:42:11,360 --> 01:42:16,640
You know what, as our buddy in
the in the chat here, Josh Young

1911
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:20,120
says, I think great value by
homes, you know, kind of brings

1912
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:24,640
it back a little bit after that
absolutely disgusting output

1913
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,320
last week.
So I'm going to Nebraska here.

1914
01:42:27,320 --> 01:42:31,400
Just this 23 1/2 is just a
little too much for a team that

1915
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,520
in Nebraska.
I think it's still solid, if

1916
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,800
not, you know, upper echelon big
10 team here.

1917
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:41,960
So I think if you if you'd have
said that was like 2020 1/2, I

1918
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,160
might want to pull the trigger,
but that that extra hook is

1919
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:45,560
going to be a little too much
for me.

1920
01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:51,520
The field goal and the hook and
I just don't think they can lose

1921
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:57,560
by that big again.
They lost by 49 last week, so I

1922
01:42:57,560 --> 01:43:00,160
think they lose somewhere
between 17 and 20 and I'll lay

1923
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,800
23 1/2.
I think it is going to be a

1924
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:04,440
roller coaster though.
I think it's going to be the

1925
01:43:04,440 --> 01:43:07,760
Curtis wave of emotions in that
game because it's going to

1926
01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:11,600
probably Ohio State, jump out
early, Nebraska, fight back, but

1927
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:15,240
I'll take Nebraska.
I think, I think Nebraska's have

1928
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:17,200
a really hard time scoring.
Their offense is pretty bad.

1929
01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:19,600
And oh, I would say this is #1
defense in the country.

1930
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,200
I'm I'm just going to go with
the the the bounce back theory

1931
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:26,400
here and take Ohio State.
All right.

1932
01:43:26,680 --> 01:43:30,800
Yeah, I got to go to Nebraska
and it's just because I, I don't

1933
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:34,280
want them to get beat that bad
because I don't want Ohio State,

1934
01:43:34,680 --> 01:43:39,400
a couple of my Ohio State
buddies to to be able to, to

1935
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:42,680
brag about this season.
So I don't think Nebraska's

1936
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:45,040
going to win the game, but I
don't think they're going to be

1937
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:48,160
get beat by 23 and a half, 24
points.

1938
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:53,080
All right, there we go.
Miranda says Nebraska.

1939
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:56,080
So Jason and Shelton.
So there are the big screens

1940
01:43:56,080 --> 01:44:00,120
this weekend and it is a lot
more fun games to be watching

1941
01:44:00,120 --> 01:44:03,360
this weekend.
Hokey game is a noon kick

1942
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,240
everybody.
So I'm going to be watching it

1943
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,080
on replay.
I will not be blowing up the

1944
01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:11,720
chat because we got baseball.
I'll be watching like the 1st 10

1945
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:14,200
minutes and then we go into
baseball game until like 3.

1946
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:16,960
So y'all don't get the way out
to the regular coaster of

1947
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:21,040
emotions of Curtis.
So, yeah, all right, anything

1948
01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:22,640
you're.
Just going to be cursing like

1949
01:44:22,920 --> 01:44:24,920
periodic, you like what the fuck
are we doing?

1950
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,240
And then you go back to it and
then you like pull it up again.

1951
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:29,320
Like what the fuck are we doing?
Yeah, that's what's going to

1952
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:33,760
happen or I won't say anything.
If it's going well, you're going

1953
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:37,120
to be like hey this is fun and
then like ignore your phone for

1954
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:39,040
another 2.
Hours, my phone exactly.

1955
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,520
Well, like 5 minutes.
I'll be pulling it up here and

1956
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:44,560
there and everywhere.
Line just went back down to 10

1957
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:48,000
1/2, not 11 1/2.
That line's crazy right now for

1958
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:49,640
the tech game.
So we're we're moving up and

1959
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,360
down.
I think they're I think they the

1960
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:56,160
initial reaction was national
media saying, you know, we

1961
01:44:56,160 --> 01:45:00,440
weren't getting Ames King and
then Brinky saying day-to-day,

1962
01:45:00,440 --> 01:45:02,400
week to week, you know, we don't
know yet.

1963
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:06,280
So it probably moved jumped up
two points and they, you know,

1964
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,800
correcting it back with that
that one point there.

1965
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,840
So.
Yeah, absolutely.

1966
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,040
All righty.
Anything else to add fellas

1967
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,280
tonight?
Great time.

1968
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:19,280
Great time here.
I mean, you got all kind of

1969
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,080
sports on right now.
NBA season started again this

1970
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:25,320
today.
You got basketball, you got

1971
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:30,000
baseball, you got football.
Great time of year for a sport.

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Say what now?
Hockey's back too, don't forget.

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Hockey's back, too.
I mean it starts.

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Friday night.
Dude, you got it.

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It's a great time to be a sports
fan, man.

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I mean, if you like to bet and
lose money, you can lose a lot

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of money right now.
So go ahead and just dump all

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your money on whatever you feel
like dumping it on.

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So this is I'm excited.
I think this is what we we've

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talked about this in the past,
like this is the sports week,

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like it is the sports week
because World Series hockey,

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basketball, like get you get
your fixes in this week.

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So it's like really from this
Friday until like next Friday or

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whenever the World Series in
it's like every single major

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sport in the US is going
football in full season mode.

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It's a it's a beautiful time of
the year, probably the best

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sports week.
Oh yeah, definitely the best

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sports week.
You get a little bit of

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everything.
There's nothing that you know,

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most sports fans don't have some
interest in and and can get

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excited about.
You know, you're kind of getting

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to the meat of the schedule from
a football standpoint, whether

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it's NFL or college.
You got the World Series out

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there, start of the season.
Everybody's got the hopium.

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When you when you look at, you
know, the hockey in the in the

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NBA, you know, you're starting
to get some early contest in,

1997
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you know, college basketball,
men's and women.

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So you're starting to see a
little bit of that start to come

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into play, you know, that'll
start, you know, tipping off

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about the time that the World
Series is wrapping up.

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So it's a really good time of
year for a sports fan.

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And I think you just kind of got
to soak it up a little bit and

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enjoy it because.
You know, that's it it.

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It goes away pretty quick.
Sit down, grab your favorite

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food, grab your favorite
beverage, kick your feet up and

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enjoy the weekend.
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Other People's Music, where he
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Actually not rambling man, but
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heard with the Brent Pryor
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