The Hokies went down to Norfolk and shook the weight of history off their back with a solid 37-17 victory over the Monarchs. We Tell the Truth about a solid if occasionally uneven outing for the Hokies. We then invite special guest Larry K from the Rutgers' Knight Watch for our Know the Enemy segment as we get to know what the Scarlet Knights will be bringing into Lane Stadium on Saturday. We close the show with our Big Screeners Picks presented by Counts Family Pharmacy.

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Music
and welcome back to the Boundary

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Corner podcast.
Along with my partners Brian

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Siegler, Jonathan Talley and
Shelton Moss, I am Curtis

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Wilson.
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Boys, welcome to a winning
Tuesday.

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How's everybody today?
Man, it's been a busy, busy week

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for me.
Man, I haven't like taken a

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breath since football started on
Saturday.

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Between running around, watching
games, stuff at work, trying to

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get ready for tonight.
It's been busy, but it's been

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fun.
Yeah, definitely busy on my end,

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always ripping and running,
doing something.

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But it's football season, some
people's giving up already.

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I'm just getting started.
I'm happy about it, win or lose,

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draw, I'm happy to watch some
football every week, all week,

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but this is a winning Tuesday.
Sheldon, how you feeling?

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I'm feeling good, my week has
not been busy because I'm

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unemployed but hopefully that'll
change soon and we've got some

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good content coming up this
week.

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I have an article for the key
play coming out tomorrow talking

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about the passive game and Kyron
Jones.

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So feeling feeling good after a
win.

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Hey, as I say, a win is a win,
so hope.

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You're doing one that's.
Better than being wanted to.

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Yes.
That's correct.

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They also say good teams win
great teams cover and tonight

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we're going to be talking all
about the game down at ODU with

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tell the truth Tuesday and then
a little bit later on know the

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enemy where Larry K from the
Rutgers night watch our buddy

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inside of college huddle
networks going to be joining us

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give a little insight on the
Rutgers Scarlet Knights.

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But let's do start with some
tell the truth Tuesday because

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what went well, y'all was tally.
You said the one big thing that

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had to happen is we needed to.
Got to break the curse, man.

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We got to go.
We got to go beat the road

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allegations.
Nailed it.

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What?
What's the judgement?

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We beat them.
I mean, I'm sure we're going to

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get into some of it later on,
but I got a lot of people that

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was feeling some type of way
about the win or upset about it.

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They had 100 yard rusher,
actually had 200 yard rushers,

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150 yard passel, 100 yard
receiver, had a defensive

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defensive end with four sacks.
I don't care who you play

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against, if you get 4 sacks I
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Two 4th fumbles, 1 fumble
recovery for the same person,

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and DB that struggled in the
first game had another pick so.

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Two and two games.
I I mean, we had some good stuff

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going on.
Yeah, we did some bad stuff too,

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but we had some good stuff, so
I'm all right with it.

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She'll know.
What about you?

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Yeah, I, it was a very, it
wasn't an underwhelming win.

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It was just a very whelming win.
Nothing, you know, we, we

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covered, we, we won by 20,
really 27 before the backups

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gave that last touchdown.
So, you know, I would have liked

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him to see it come out a little
bit, a little bit faster for the

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majority of the of the first
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Not going to give those big
plays, but you know, they, they

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did some good things.
They did some not so good

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things.
So we'll, I'm sure we'll talk

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about all tonight.
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I, I saw improvement.
I saw improvement.

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And Sheldon says he was, well,
not overwhelmed.

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I think Tally was, he wasn't
superstitious, but he was

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definitely a little stitious.
So I, I think, I think we got

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over to hump a little bit.
I'm excited that we scored some

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points, put up 37 against ODU.
I'm excited that we covered.

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I'm excited that we were able
to, as Tally said, beat the road

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allegations and finally get a
victory down there in Norfolk.

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So, I mean, other than that
second quarter, there's not a

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whole lot of of complaints that
I have for that game.

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And we're going to talk about
the second quarter a little bit.

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But what I saw that impressed me
the most was just drones and

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Tooting on the ground and drones
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Again, authority.
Absolute authority.

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He was bringing a hammer real
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Brian, just so you know, we're a
sentimental podcast.

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Here we go.
Sometimes it's true.

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First of all, y'all said it for
me, We finally went in a damn

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game down there in this series.
Like it felt like, you know,

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back in 2018, everything went
wrong, quarterback broke his

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leg, nobody knew what they were
doing on either side of the

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ball.
We lose a shootout down there to

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ODU.
And then just three years ago,

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two years ago, two years ago,
everything that could go wrong

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did go wrong.
The ball that was in Norfolk was

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snapped to Williamsbury.
We always talk about that.

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This time that none of that
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We just went out and played.
We played.

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We did not play down.
We played to them.

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And to what y'all have both
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I mean, let's talk about the
drawing to do the true dog, the

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true dog ground game. 232
combined, 3 touchdowns and it

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wasn't fancy runs, it was that
big run from drones.

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I mean, he was looking to.
Hurt.

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He was looking to hurt somebody
when he got downfield.

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It ain't even good about that.
He broke the tackle there kind

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of at the point of attack and
then just got out there in the

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open and looking for contact,
looking for contact and somebody

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brought it and he got stiff
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Made his Mama feel it a little
bit and then the next dude got

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truck.
So three guys caught some

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allegations on that one.
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And it's like that's kind of the
Karen that we used to seeing and

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they have for whatever reason
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I understand you want to protect
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I will talk about it a little
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is.
I mean, you can't stop Lamar

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Jackson from doing what Lamar
Jackson does.

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He's small, he runs, he's going
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But if he doesn't have part of
that as his game, he's not a

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effective quarterback.
So I mean, what we seen from

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drones is what I expected to see
most of the year, but I feel

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like they have kind of shield
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So I will, I don't know if it
was a a call play or he just

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said I think at that point it
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So it's still kind of close.
And he was like, all right, fuck

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this.
We got to, we got to do

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something, you know what I'm
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And from then on, it kind of
looked like, OK, let's start

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dominating the game. 90% get on
my back for a little bit.

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Let's go take a ride.
Shown anything catch you stat

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wise, data wise or just your
eyes from watching those guys

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run?
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wise anything.
I think it was just good to see,

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good to see the offensive open
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had a couple of gadget plays.
Park Clemens, great job as a

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slot receiver.
He was a.

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The best jumper jacks I've seen
and you know what, we didn't

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throw it to him like UVA, so
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He didn't jump off sides.
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our rivals.
Don't throw it to the tackle,

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let him be the decoy.
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So so so did you go re watch
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Yeah, I I did rewatch it.
So did literally did just the

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safeties head like just like
immediately move to the left?

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Like why is he doing that?
Yeah, no, they they all took the

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bait and and Lane was just
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I don't know if I'd be.
I'd be interested to see if if

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adds a adds a snap first Parker
as a slot receiver and then puts

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that puts that into his final PF
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Perfect.
Perfect.

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He was a perfect slot receiver,
Yeah. 99.9 grade.

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That was a good call.
But you know what, look at that

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play and the first thing my
thought was the next time you

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run that the safeties are going
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And I know we get on Parker
Clements a lot, but you imagine

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the safeties run up if you're
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Guy locks up his guy Kyron Sweet
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right in front of him.
Think about that play design,

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because the next.
Time.

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The first thing I'm thinking
about is, is Varsity Blues man

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the thing that damn play where I
run down feeling act like I'm

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lost, is it?
No, it's the play where you

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stand there and do jumping
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Right.
But obviously great game for Jay

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Lane as well. 125 total yards,
that touchdown pass and y'all

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the the play where tell me y'all
didn't get the feeling that

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whatever it was bad snap, weird
hand off and that ball went

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tumbling.
I mean, I hate to sit here.

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I sat here and everything from
2022 just came rushing back in

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my brain watching that play
like, Oh my God, no, not again,

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not again.
And then I'm like, OK, he got

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it, throw it away, throw it
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And the next thing you know, we
gone.

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Yeah, it wasn't really.
I wasn't watching it in in in

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terror actually, because it kind
of happened quick, you know, So

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it was like when it happened, I
think I text y'all and was like,

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Oh yeah, this is like we're
going to win the game.

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You can't have a couple of
things like that happen when you

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don't win, you know what I'm
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It's like when you have stuff
like that happened to you, it's

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like, yeah, that's your game.
It doesn't matter what happens,

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don't matter how close it is,
you're going to win.

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You know, when we were in
Vanderbilt, they put the ball on

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the ground 93 times, got all of
them, pick one of them, ran it

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around.
Like when shit like that

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happened, you just like, OK,
somebody is on the yeah,

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somebody.
Speaking of Vanderbilt, I know

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this is a Virginia Tech podcast
and I know a lot of people are

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paying attention to Vanderbilt
because we lost to them.

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Did anybody watch any of that
game because it was not their

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night?
And when I say not that night,

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it was when people ask like, how
do people lose?

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And old Georgia State beat them
and we couldn't go watch it, go

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watch the game.
And when stuff like what happens

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in those games happens, there's
nothing you can do.

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It's like quarterback rolls out,
he gets hit, fumbles the ball,

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you know, wasn't even a blind
side hit.

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Then you got a guy that is a
returner on the kickoff that

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gets a safety, you know, bobbles
the ball, steps back into the

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end zone, grabs the ball, kneels
it, They give them a safe.

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Like when stuff like that
happen, you like, come on, man.

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Like it's not your day.
So it's like, man, sometimes you

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just got to watch games and and
stop watching.

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Well, this team should beat this
team and this thing like it's

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all different.
So every week's different. 17 to

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20, well, in some cases, 23 old
kids in the case of what is it,

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Oklahoma State, Utah, it's 24
and 25 year old kids.

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I mean, yeah, we'll talk about
that later.

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But Sheldon, let's go real quick
because I think just from our

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eyes, especially Tally and
Bronze as we kind of already

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heard, I got a feeling offensive
line probably played better,

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more across the board, more
average to above average than

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what we've been dealing with
this.

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Maybe a couple people are above
average in multiple people below

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average.
So what did they look like this

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week?
Yeah, it was pretty solid

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overall.
Certainly just based on the eye

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test, you know, they they kind
of opened up a little bit in the

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second-half once they kind of
started to wear ODU down.

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But you know, park limits for as
much grief as people give him

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and sometimes it's been
justified, but not so in this

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case.
He was a 75.8, which was really

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good.
We saw Johnny Garrett sub in for

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Xavier Chaplin.
He was solid at the 68.

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So that was good to see.
And then and patch protection.

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Caden Ward was really good.
He was a top grader at 85, which

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is very good for an offensive
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So, you know, we saw we saw
Brody Meadows get some snaps

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too.
You kind of got into the bench a

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little bit and he actually did
extremely well in the limited

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time he was he was in the game.
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it was a pretty solid
performance from the from the

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front 5.
And, and again, I told, like I

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told you last year, it was that
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like things start clicking.
We start feeling this is the

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offense more and more and the
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And it's one of those things you
can we can scream out, we can be

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mad all year.
This happens to a lot of teams.

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We're not the only team in the
country this happens to.

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It irritates us probably more
than any fan base in the

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country.
But that's neither here nor

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there.
And that might be an episode,

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any offseason that we might be
working on, but.

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I think it's more with how often
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there is any stakes at play,
whether it's, you know, a Boise

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back-to-back was, you know, all,
all all these weird things that

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happened at the start of the
year for the Hokies.

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When there's any sort of
expectations attached to a team.

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It's true.
It just feels like, you know,

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that there's a reason that
chokies exist, and that's one of

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them all.
Right, let's roll on and run on

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to the defensive side of the
ball with APR because Tally's

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already mentioned it.
What a absolute ball game he had

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because he did have 7 total
tackles.

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He had the trifecta when it
comes to hitting the

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quarterback, the strip, the sack
and a formal recovery.

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He had four total sacks.
Second time he's had four total

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sacks.
And I'm going to just let these

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guys say it.
The only other person in

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Virginia Tech history do that
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Bruce.
Bruce.

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Bruce.
Smith.

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Bruce Smith, So that is on some
level cool part was Smith was

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standing on the sidelines to see
him do it like and he's in in

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APR said in the post.
He's like, yeah, he dabbed me up

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before the game.
It was just like, you know, and

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it's cool where it happened,
especially with APR being down

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there.
And I mean, he looked that was

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the best he looked all year.
Like he, he finally looked

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comfortable for the first time,
at least in my eyes.

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Brian, what did what did you
feel did you see from APR?

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Because it looked like that was
the APR middle of the last

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season where teams were having
to just think about him every

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snap.
Yeah, I mean, the explosions

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been there and I think you know
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This was a a time that was right
for him to kind of take that

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that step because, you know, we
talked about it on this show

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last week that this offensive
line wasn't a ton to write home

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about.
It was it was time for the the

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guys on our defensive line to
have a feast.

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And I'm glad to see that they
showed up and entered the bell

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for that.
Miss Talley.

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Oh yeah, definitely.
You know, not much to, to, you

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know, throw in besides what you
guys have already said.

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It's like he was bigger and
faster and stronger than him and

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he went out and he was bigger,
faster and stronger than them.

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Like from the jump, you could
tell whoever was was trying to

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block him couldn't do it.
So whatever quarterback would

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have been back there, he was
getting to him, you know, so I,

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I was excited to see.
And like I said, man, the thing

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that kills me though, is when
people say like, Oh well, was

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ODU, it don't matter.
Like we played Delaware, we

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played, we played a lot of
schools and people don't get 4

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sacks against them.
So if somebody gets there for if

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somebody gets 4 sacks in the
game, I'm hyping it.

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I don't care who it is.
I don't care if they're playing

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the school of the blind and
deaf.

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Yeah, and I mean, ODU gave that
Gamecock team more hell on the

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road and then that that same
team turned around and and gave

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LSU every bit that it wanted.
So that's not an awful team that

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we went down to Norfolk and
played.

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So I I think we need to remember
that a little bit.

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Their offensive line might not
be exactly what you would want

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to write home about, but that
team as a whole is a pretty

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solid G5 team.
Well, you got to think about

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this with South Carolina.
What they scored 23 on them and

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14 was because they the the
offense turned the ball inside

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the what the 20 yard line.
Yeah, something like.

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That like that, yeah.
South Carolina didn't drive that

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ball at all.
Again, so do you and I know it's

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it's again what tell you were
just trying to say it's week to

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week and things like that.
And Sheldon, I'm sure you you

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could probably find data about
like to show us like how teams

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perform because it's it's the
the crazy thing I feel about

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college football versus Pro is I
feel like Pro is always more

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predictable outcomes.
I feel like college it is

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legitimately like playing.
I don't know.

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You want to say roulette?
Yeah, Callie, you gamble on the.

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You gamble, you go down.
The contras when you say

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roulette so.
Well, but but it's roulette.

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It's like, where are you going
to place the bet?

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How you going to stagger it out?
So yeah, but real quick I I

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noticed I think APR second
highest defensive end for

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defensive player this week,
Sheldon in PFF grades.

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Yeah, something like that.
I know he was the the Walter

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Camp player of the week for for
the entire country.

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So very well, well deserved
honor.

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Yeah, really good on that.
High PFF grades and everything.

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And I think just in general,
really other than the second

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quarter, the the defense showed
up.

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The defense showed up to what we
thought they were going to be.

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I know, Shelton, you've got the
data point in here.

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We, we, we, you, you.
I think, I don't know if you

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texted the group or just me and
talking about missed tackle

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rates, how it went down again,
what is your perspective, just

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the data and just watching the
game, is the defense slowly

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morphing into what we thought it
would be from Jump Street

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Shelton?
I think it's getting there.

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I mean, I know they they moved
up to 35th and SP plus this

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weekend for defense, which was,
you know, kind of where they

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started the year.
They're, you know, a little bit

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better than the offense right
now.

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So but yeah, I mean, like, I
like the way Tally's thinking.

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It's not about who you played,
it's how you played.

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And APR got his second career
force that game.

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Last one was against Wake Forest
last year.

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So look, he was a dog 91.1 PFF
grade, which was, like I said,

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one of the best in the country.
And that's really hard to do as

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AD lineman.
Just from what I can see.

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It's you know, the the D line
grades for PFF are much more

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kind of condensed in that sort
of average range, but a 90 plus

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grade is really good.
So mentioned the four stacks, 5

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total Kiwi pressures, which was
great and then missed tackles.

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I was looking at this because
I've been following it for

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throughout the course of the
year.

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Tech had a. 14% missed tackle
rate, which a which was a

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significant improvement from the
last two weeks.

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That's really good.
I think, you know, national

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average is right around 18 to
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So they cut that down a lot,
which is great to see.

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You know, not not having, you
know, guys break tackles and and

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get free in the secondary.
Obviously you got to make sure

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that, you know, they're not
running free, which happens

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sometimes, but, you know, always
good to always good to wrap guys

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up.
So, yeah.

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And then you look at some of the
events that's, you know, we saw

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a lot of a lot of blue on that
at advanced, that chart on game

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on paper.com, which is always a
good thing.

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You want to see blue 31% success
rate for ODU, which was 9th

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percentile all games this year.
So they really just just

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smothered them really.
So that was that was good to

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see.
Yeah, and I mean, when we talk

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about, you know, success rate
and getting better game to game,

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it helps when a defense is
coming into their own and not

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having to play a triple option
offense.

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So if we're seeing improvement,
that's one of the reasons we're

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not seeing a funky look where
responsibilities are

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significantly different than
they would be week to week.

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So we're getting into a little
more consistent offensive

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attack.
We're going to see, you know,

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where we'll talk about here in a
little bit.

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We're going to see a lot more of
that this week, a little more

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conventional offensive attack.
So you're not not looking so

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much for the, the quarterback to
have a lot of misdirection,

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doing a lot of keepers.
You know, much, much less of

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that going forward.
And and that's, that's going to

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be a good thing for this
defense.

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I feel like because when they
can play the way they have the

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last few last couple weeks,
that's going to bode well for us

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because that's going to keep us
in every game regardless of what

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the offense is doing.
Anything to add to that, Kelly?

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No, not really, man.
I mean, we talked a lot about

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what went good.
I mean, you always want to talk

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about what goes good after a
win.

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But when you talk about what
went good, what went good, you

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also have to talk about what
went bad.

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So no lie, Curtis, I'm going to
toss it to you and you part us

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with what went bad.
Well, y'all know what when I

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texted about Saturday night was
we gave up three runs, 40 plus

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yards and that's not good,
especially when the other team

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only rushes for 243 yards on
close to 40 carries.

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And if you do the math 140 of
that on three of them.

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That was the that was the issue
last year.

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We saw at times and I and and I
listen to the half the the the

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post game stuff and I, I, I
relooked at the 65 yard

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touchdown run and and by by all
means, I'm I'm trying to figure

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out exactly what the defensive
end last ain't blanking on right

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now.
Yeah, what what CJ McRae was

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doing and the other one a little
miscommunicate, a misfit.

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It's like we, we we can survive
against.

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So do you like that?
We're about to start a stretch

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of games we can't survive.
You cannot give up those big

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runs.
And I could hear a little pissed

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off, as in prize voice, because
one of those runs, he was true.

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It should have been a 15 yard
game.

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It should not have been a 40
plus yard game.

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Right.
And that's what happens.

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That's what happens when you
guess Curtis, he said.

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You didn't know what he was
doing.

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He was guessing.
Well, it's.

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Hold on.
You want to make a big play.

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You want to hit the running back
because you guess that's where

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the ball's going.
But your responsibility is

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probably the quarterback, which
just ran for a 65 yard

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touchdown.
So you got to be disciplined.

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That's what it comes to on all
phases of the game.

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You got to be disciplined.
Whatever your job is, you got to

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do that job.
Now, from what I can see, I

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think that was his man, but it
was nobody else there, you know

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what I'm saying?
And you know, if you're in that

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kind of coverage, you got to
kind of know what's going on and

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where everybody is so.
Yeah, especially against that

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offense where they've got their
receivers outside the numbers.

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So you don't really have as much
support as you would normally

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have from those guys playing
corner guys playing nickel,

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depending on where it where it,
where they are, maybe even the

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safety there.
So you don't have the help that

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you normally would have against
that type of offense.

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So if you get, if they get to
the alley, they're going to be

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running for a bit.
Yeah.

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Sean, anything on either of
those?

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Play again.
Shelton usually goes back and re

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watches it.
I try to sometimes.

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Sometimes I just don't fit into
my life.

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But did you like throw when you
saw the running plays again?

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Shelton?
Did you throw anything the

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second time?
You're like, what are you doing?

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No.
OK.

444
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,920
Yeah, I mean.
Obviously, like I, I, I don't

445
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,600
know, you know, we don't know
exactly what everyone's

446
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,280
responsibility is.
And you know, that's right.

447
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,240
It's about my, my pay grade a
little bit.

448
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:13,160
But yeah, I mean, that was
probably the one really the, the

449
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,480
only area of the game that they
struggled in was with the

450
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,400
explosive run plays.
I mean, cause look at like I say

451
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,240
with the, with the, the advanced
stats, Charlie, everything was

452
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,680
good for tech except for the run
stuff.

453
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,440
So, you know, if we want to talk
about this when we get there,

454
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,000
But you know, the, the big place
have really been the sore spot

455
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,400
for the defense this year.
So that's kind of why it's

456
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,000
slowly concerning.
You guys see Mike Rutgers that

457
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,440
comes in and has a good, really
good running game coming to

458
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,400
Wayne Stadium next week or, or
this week.

459
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,800
So we got to get it cleaned up
somehow, someway.

460
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,680
All right, all right, I'm going
to go to the next one that what

461
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,120
went bad and I'm going to pitch
this to you tally because I want

462
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:50,000
to hear your anger on this.
So you have 14 nothing.

463
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,360
You had a fast start, right?
Good start.

464
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,840
You drive again, you're at the
25 yard line.

465
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,320
You got John Love, who is one of
the more accurate kickers, not

466
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,000
only in Virginia Tech history,
right now in college football,

467
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,240
and it's 4th and four.
What?

468
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:07,840
What are you supposed to do
that?

469
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,000
Are you really supposed to go
for it?

470
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:13,040
Man, I'm taking the layups.
Man, I know you want to, you

471
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,400
want to lean on the team that
you're supposed to be better

472
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,720
than or you're supposed to do
this.

473
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,760
And I'm just the kind of person
where I feel like you got

474
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,560
momentum.
Don't give it up at that point.

475
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,320
Like you said, if you had a
questionable kicker or you had

476
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,800
the perfect play call, sure.
But Jon Love has been money.

477
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,520
You know, I'm giving him an
opportunity to go and get him

478
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,680
another stat.
Hey man, go kick this field goal

479
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,200
for us.
So that's just how I feel.

480
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,000
I mean, it's good to be
aggressive, but at the same

481
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,040
time, sometimes it comes back
and bites you.

482
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,360
And I feel like it always come
back and bite us As Virginia

483
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,560
Tech fans when something like
that happens.

484
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,640
You miss a field goal, then they
score, then mishap, take the

485
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,200
points because you take those
points.

486
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,000
If you hit that then you're up
17 to 0, you know?

487
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,200
I think I drive the ball.
Three times, yeah.

488
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,360
I just feel when that happened,
I was yelling take the point.

489
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:15,920
So I feel like that was a a
missed opportunity for us.

490
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,160
Yeah, I feel like sometimes we
get a little out of kilter as

491
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,720
far as when to be aggressive and
when to just take, like Tally

492
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,680
said, take the layups.
That was definitely one.

493
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,040
I mean, I know we were in, we're
in a group chat, we were sending

494
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,000
messages.
We're like kick it, kick, kick,

495
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,320
kick, kick, kick it.
And I mean, like Tally said, you

496
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,920
want to lean on them.
You want to go out there to

497
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,160
search yourself.
You want to say, hey, we can, we

498
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,480
can get the first down here.
But sometimes you just got to

499
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,960
take the points and move on to
the next drive because you've

500
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,400
shown you can drive the
football.

501
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,080
You're going to get some more
opportunities.

502
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,920
Take the points.
Yeah.

503
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,640
Sheldon, any, any any comments
on that any any analytics where

504
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,480
it says go for it there or?
Or what should I mean?

505
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:05,680
No, yeah, I mean it's, I have no
idea what, you know, different

506
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,160
analytic charts will say
different things.

507
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,800
I think you probably in that
situation probably go with the

508
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:14,000
flow, like take the points more
than four.

509
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,000
That's kind of for me, that's
kind of like iffy territory.

510
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,440
I just don't have a huge amount
of confidence in BT being able

511
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,880
to convert that.
So I just, I would just say take

512
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,600
the points, you know, maybe if
you're playing, I think if

513
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,320
you're, if you're an underdog,
it makes more sense to be

514
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,320
aggressive and risky.
I just, I don't think it makes

515
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,120
sense in that situation where
you're playing against a team

516
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:30,000
that you know you're better
than.

517
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,520
See, while was also pissed off
about that because up to that

518
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,120
point they had 18 yards offense,
18 yards.

519
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,600
And and it's really funny, you
see how the momentum switches

520
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,560
because at that point you kick
the field goal.

521
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,040
They have no belief there is.
The honest truth is I wonder if

522
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,360
they get to 10 in that quarter
because now you have 17 and

523
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,080
they're like, Oh my God, are we
going to be able to do this?

524
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,680
All right.
You gave them belief, don't give

525
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,000
the underdogs belief.
Ever.

526
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,080
Couple other things that went
bad.

527
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,840
That's first kick of John's.
I was like, did John miss one?

528
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:09,880
Know he got it blocked.
That is now the third effective

529
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,680
big blunder on special teams
this year.

530
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,880
It's been one a week and now
it's it's a trend now and now I

531
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,920
sit here and say what's going to
happen next week?

532
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,800
What are we going to screw up?
And it's something different

533
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,600
each time.
So that that's where it's a

534
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,960
little more frustrating.
You can't even like necessarily,

535
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,520
you know, draw a circle around,
OK, well, we need to improve,

536
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,280
you know, how we're fair
catching footballs or we need to

537
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,400
improve how we're blocking on
kickoff or, you know, how we're

538
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,960
protecting on punt.
Like there there's something

539
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,600
different every week.
So that's that's a little more

540
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,680
frustrating because you can't
necessarily say it's one thing

541
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,560
or the other.
It's a little bit of everything

542
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,200
that we've seen a coaching
blunder directly with the with

543
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,680
the numbers you see.
OK, well, they they went to a

544
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,000
different look and we didn't
call a time out.

545
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,200
You know, should we have been
prepared for that?

546
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,480
Should we should, should that be
a coaching thing that we should

547
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,320
have just stopped and said,
let's look at it again on the

548
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,400
block punt and then now you've
got a block field goal where in

549
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,520
early in that game it didn't
look like we were doing a good

550
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,840
job with protection up the
middle.

551
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,960
Regardless, we were now getting
folks were kind of shooting the

552
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,920
gaps in the middle of that, that
field goal unit.

553
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,040
So that's something to look at.
But again, it's, it's, it's kind

554
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,600
of inconsistent across the board
on special teams with no real

555
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:39,560
fixed area that we can look at.
Yeah, I mean, a special teams

556
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,800
unit was really good last year,
so basically one of the top

557
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,280
units in the country.
So I know there were some

558
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,160
nefarious individuals on Twitter
who wanted to fire Stew Halt He.

559
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,400
Really has.
Yeah, every single, every single

560
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,440
week.
I'm not going to, I'm not going

561
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,040
to name names, but we know who
we know who they were.

562
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,120
We'll see you'd wrestling
season.

563
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,520
Yeah, I mean, The thing is with,
yeah, with, with special teams,

564
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,800
there's such a there's such a
limited sample size of plays

565
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,120
that if you have 3 or 4 really
bad ones, it kind of hurts you a

566
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,320
lot in the in the stats.
So I don't know, I mean, it

567
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,480
could just be players not
executing and maybe it's a

568
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,680
coaching problem, but I don't
know.

569
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760
I think I think Stewart's done
mostly a pretty good job.

570
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,800
So, well, I guess we kind of
just got to see how it plays out

571
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,880
the rest of the year.
All right, fellas, fellas,

572
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,240
anything else in y'all's opinion
went bad on Saturday?

573
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,440
I mean, we had another slow
second quarter other than that,

574
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,080
like, you know, looking at big
picture for this game, second

575
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,760
quarter aside, I don't really
have a ton of complaints.

576
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:45,960
All right, Charlie Sheldon, my
only other complaint went bad.

577
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,800
I would have liked to have
buried them in the third quarter

578
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,080
because we, our defense gave us
every opportunity to put that

579
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,560
game away at 28 to 10 in the
third quarter.

580
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,520
It took us to the 4th to finally
knock them out.

581
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,760
That's my biggest bad.
Like a special.

582
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,200
You went on meet bud.
Muted yourself, Kurt.

583
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,000
Still muted.
We don't know what's going on

584
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,400
with Curtis.
Somebody didn't want him to

585
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,600
talk, so they put him on mute
while we got Curtis on mute.

586
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,200
OK, you back.
Here we go.

587
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,960
All right.
Y'all going to have to run it

588
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,240
for a second because something's
going on with my mic again,

589
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,080
y'all?
Well, while Curtis is having mic

590
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,400
problems, we're just going to
bring new new King to the to the

591
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,160
forefront.
We ain't fucking worried about

592
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,040
Miami right now.
We're worried about Rutgers.

593
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,880
We'll talk to you next week.
I don't even know who y'all play

594
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,360
this week, but you better be
worried about whoever y'all

595
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,160
play.
We'll talk to you next week.

596
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,320
Do King.
Thank you for joining in.

597
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:51,040
S Florence.
Because if y'all don't remember

598
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,840
just a couple weeks.
Ago South Florida.

599
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,000
Sorry y'all, I completely lost
everything.

600
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,720
A couple weeks ago.
South Florida went into Talley's

601
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,800
home state and gave a team
that's a whole lot more talented

602
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,920
a hell of a run.
Saturday night had them boys

603
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,600
sweating bullets down there in
Tuscaloosa.

604
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,760
All right, let's go to this real
quick.

605
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,440
Brian, anything happened you
were not prepared for?

606
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,280
I wasn't prepared for finally
jumping out the gate and getting

607
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,560
a fast start.
I, I, I didn't necessarily, it

608
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,880
was one of those things I wanted
to happen, but I wasn't

609
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,760
necessarily prepared for it.
So when it happened, it was very

610
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,000
much a, woah, OK, this is what
we can do out the gate.

611
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,760
This is what I was expecting at
Vanderbilt.

612
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,320
I got it ODU so I'm thankful for
it here but I was expecting it

613
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,760
there.
What about you Tally anything

614
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,920
that you were not prepared for
to happen?

615
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Yeah, I wasn't going to say, I
guess.

616
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,120
Yeah, you can't really be
prepared for like injuries, you

617
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,680
know what I'm saying?
Like right out of the gate,

618
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,760
Chaplin goes down.
We don't see him anymore.

619
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,120
Jennings was real limited.
I don't know exactly what's

620
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,320
going on with him, but he went
down.

621
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,520
So just a couple of things.
The injuries, I wasn't really

622
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,239
prepared for that.
But on the upside, some of the

623
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,320
people that came in and, and,
and played for him, I mean, they

624
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,560
looked good.
It helped.

625
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,120
It helped that we had a little
bit of depth, especially on the

626
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,719
offensive line.
So I wasn't prepared for that,

627
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,639
but it was it was good to see.
Yeah, it it, I think that's

628
00:34:25,639 --> 00:34:28,880
where we, we, we set earlier
about a month ago and talked

629
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,480
about depth, right?
Like we felt like depth at

630
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,320
certain positions was a lot
better.

631
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,480
So Kelly, I'm with you.
When I saw Garrett, because X

632
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,639
was in there for Xavier, was in
there for a couple plays and

633
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:40,159
then next thing you know he's
gone.

634
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:44,360
Coach Robbie text me like who
the hell 79 he got?

635
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,400
No name plate.
No name plate, baby.

636
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,080
And you know what?
They apparently they were.

637
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:52,360
They were.
They were thinking of doing

638
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,600
something tricky.
You know, with.

639
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,680
That because with no name plate
that means there's going to be

640
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,040
270 nines on the field.
I don't know if there's a 79 on

641
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:07,120
defense or not.
So yeah, the other thing that

642
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:15,600
for me that I like Brian was not
prepared for was that fast start

643
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,440
because it had been so slow and
just been.

644
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,920
And when it's pop, pop you are
dictating, in the words of Brian

645
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,360
Siegler, you are dictating the
terms to what you want to do.

646
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,360
We did that right out of the
gate and that's something we had

647
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,400
not been able to do lately.
So it's just good to see that

648
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,120
because I think it's fan that
gives you hope, right where you

649
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,640
say, OK, we can take the ball
the first time goes for some

650
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,440
points.
Curtis, let me ask you

651
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,960
something.
I ain't even thinking about this

652
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,840
on the rundown, but another
thing I wasn't really prepared

653
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,320
for.
Did you see how much we used the

654
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:52,600
backup quarterback in the slot
and stuff like what are we?

655
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,000
Are we setting something up?
Like, I was on my end, I was

656
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,800
looking at it like we've got a
lot of receivers that can run

657
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,840
some plays in the rounds,
whatever, put them in and we

658
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,520
might get a score.
But on the other hand, like I'm

659
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:07,680
wondering what they're trying to
do.

660
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,840
So what do you feel about that
courtesy and seeing Schlee in

661
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,280
there as much as he was?
Well, I heard it a couple times

662
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,400
and saw it.
It's just like, to your point,

663
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,360
it's like we got all these
receivers, you know, we know Ali

664
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,320
was banged who said it after
game, he tweaked something and

665
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,600
at the point where it was like,
OK, well, he probably can go

666
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:25,600
back in.
It's like, well, hold on, we're

667
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,760
winning the game, put him to the
side.

668
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,720
But as much as we saw that, what
did you think when he went from

669
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:35,400
shotgun?
They got drones over in the

670
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,800
slot.
I don't know what the time.

671
00:36:37,240 --> 00:36:42,200
Well, the only thing I saw was
like, wait a second, what are we

672
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,120
about to run here?
And then it's like a fake

673
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,680
reverse and Schlee went up.
I mean, it was a beautiful

674
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,360
little quarterback sweep because
you my first thought of the

675
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,800
inclination is those safeties
back there saw drones and they

676
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,560
saw them going by.
Like he's gonna hand it off to

677
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,440
him.
He's on Chuck it on us.

678
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,000
And he didn't.
And then they again, it's a 10

679
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,880
yard game.
I don't think it's anything

680
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,320
wrong with it.
But I also think, you know what

681
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,720
I thought to myself, Tally, I
think the confidence in pop is

682
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,280
going up.
I think the confidence pop is up

683
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,320
Now where they feel, hey, we
have this dynamic player.

684
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,320
He started a bunch of games.
He knows college speed.

685
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,680
How can we utilize that?
All right.

686
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,560
Yeah, go ahead, Brian.
I was just going to say, yeah,

687
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,000
that that I think that's a good
point.

688
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,040
I think, you know, you got to
take advantage of the talent

689
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,800
that you have out there.
And when you have a guy that can

690
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,600
throw but is an athlete that
gives you another wrinkle,

691
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,200
right?
And and and there's nothing

692
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,160
wrong with adding an extra
wrinkle to your offense.

693
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,920
And you know what, another thing
is kind of you got to play the

694
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:46,280
game within the game.
So if Kyron decides to move on

695
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,920
after this year, you know, to go
on the big and better things,

696
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,640
what does your quarterback
situation look like?

697
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,920
Like you kind of got to depend
on Pop.

698
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,520
You know, he's been in the
system in the second year,

699
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,120
right?
So going in the next year will

700
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,800
be year three.
If he doesn't touch the field at

701
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,440
all, does he decide to leave?
You know what I mean?

702
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,840
So things like that.
So it was good to see him get on

703
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,600
the field.
And like you said, Curtis, I, I,

704
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,680
I can maybe see that and agree
with that.

705
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,640
Well, they've got a little bit
more confidence in him where,

706
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,360
hey, if something happens where
you'll wind it, we ain't going

707
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,800
to even say hurt, you'll wind it
and can't go in.

708
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,800
We do have another quarterback
that we can put in and.

709
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,560
He did go in.
He did go in last series.

710
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,640
I can see that.
All right, as always, we get to

711
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,600
our last piece here.
Hopefully Shelton has figured

712
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,080
out his Internet, all sorts of
technical issues tonight on the

713
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,040
Bouncer Corner podcast.
That happens occasionally.

714
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,240
But what can we do better moving
forward?

715
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:42,640
I know Shelton's got something
he wants to do in the passing

716
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,000
game, so I'm going to try to
hold him off to the end.

717
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,360
But what about you, Tally?
There he is.

718
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,320
So we're going, Sheldon, you
were going to be our last

719
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,040
because I know you got a lot to
say and you got an article

720
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,920
coming out with Tally, Sheldon,
talk about the passing game and

721
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,560
all that.
But what are you looking at with

722
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,400
what can we do better moving
forward?

723
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,040
I'll say what what can we do
better moving forward is mainly

724
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,960
just just a defensive run fits
for the most part.

725
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,680
You know what I'm saying?
Like again, I don't know the

726
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,960
schemes that they run.
I just know kind of what I see

727
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:21,040
and what I know of football.
The free flowing schemes is kind

728
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,160
of having linebackers.
They can run side to side is

729
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,280
great, but sometimes you got to
have a gap responsibility and

730
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,400
come downhill and hit because if
you're constantly going side to

731
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,400
side and not North and South,
sometimes things get by you.

732
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,960
So I'd like to see us just build
on what we've been doing.

733
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,760
You know this next you're going
to have a physical game this

734
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,160
week.
They're going to come in,

735
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,600
they're going to be well
coached, they're going to be

736
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,040
physical.
You're going to have the

737
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,240
opportunity to size somebody up
and hit them.

738
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:51,280
So we don't need, no, we don't
need Sheldon to be having to

739
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,600
spend his whole night talking
about missed tackle rates and PW

740
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,720
IS and WWFS.
We need y'all to come downhill

741
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,680
and hit somebody that show gap.
Don't let nobody come through

742
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,840
it.
So I like to see that moving

743
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,400
forward, Ryan.
Yeah, I mean, you talked about

744
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,280
it and and, and I'm going to
flip it to the other side.

745
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:17,120
Let's get let's get more of our
weapons involved in the offense

746
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,120
consistently.
I know we've got a couple guys

747
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,000
with Knicks.
I know we got a couple guys that

748
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,240
are still kind of working
themselves back into playing

749
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,720
shape.
I'd like to see Felton get more

750
00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:29,480
targets.
I'd like to see, you know, if,

751
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,800
if Jennings is healthy, I'd like
to see him get some more

752
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,600
targets.
Yeah, right now we have a good

753
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,880
problem that we have probably
too many mouths to feed from a

754
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,480
wide receiver standpoint.
At the same time, I think

755
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:45,080
because they each bring a little
bit of a different skill set to

756
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,160
the table, it'd be nice to see
them all get involved because

757
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,760
that's going to make the offense
more dynamic.

758
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,160
I'm.
Going to throw.

759
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,720
I'm going to throw something on
that before we go to the next

760
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:56,800
thing too.
Kind of what Brian was saying,

761
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,520
you know, too many mouths to
feed and more targets and stuff.

762
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,560
Another thing with the players
and they have to realize, and I

763
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,440
know it's a hard thing to do,
but and I and I think they're

764
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,200
fully capable of it.
Like when you're getting like

765
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,000
limited opportunities, you have
to make the best at opportunity

766
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,400
when you get it.
Like, you know, I've seen some

767
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,160
wide receivers go to all games,
you know, ball hits you in the

768
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,080
hands, you drop it because
you're excited, you're getting

769
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,280
it.
Like you got to make that catch

770
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,680
because you don't know when it's
going to come around again.

771
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,360
You got to think about your
quarterback back there.

772
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,320
He's getting the ball to who
he's comfortable with when he

773
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,920
starts.
When things go awry and Kyron

774
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,880
starts scrambling around back
there, if you go look at the

775
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,840
games, who does he look for?
He's looking for Jay Lane or

776
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,160
he's looking for guys Nail, but
they're also knowing where to go

777
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,800
and getting in the position to
be open.

778
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,160
So, you know, I'd like to see
some of our playmakers.

779
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,520
If everybody's on the scramble
drill, everybody just get in the

780
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,200
scramble drill.
I know we can't throw it to

781
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,040
everybody, but you got to be
open sometimes too.

782
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,880
And I'm not saying that that's
not because I can't see the

783
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,280
whole field, but I'm just saying
if I'm looking at things from a

784
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,840
past perspective, like there's a
couple of people that are

785
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,960
getting open when he's
scrambling around with that.

786
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,280
But like when Curtis said that
ball was bouncing around and he

787
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,720
was nervous, like I knew when he
picked it up and he and that

788
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:20,080
first man missed him, I was
like, those nails going to be

789
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,440
open and it was Jay Lane.
But so that's that's what I

790
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,240
would want to add to that.
Nice, Sheldon.

791
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:28,320
I'm going to let you go man,
because you got some stuff.

792
00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:31,160
You mentioned to us that going
better moving forward.

793
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,840
You wrote an article about it.
Go, man.

794
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,000
Yeah.
So the biggest thing I think

795
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,240
that has to improve as a passing
game and it's been a little bit

796
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:43,080
lackluster so far this year
through three games, some of the

797
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,440
key stats Hokies are 105th in
passing success rate and that

798
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,320
includes passes and sacks as
well.

799
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,720
A little bit better than the
rush game, but really the the

800
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:55,080
pass game's been kind of their
their biggest sore spot.

801
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,680
So when I was looking at numbers
this week, what I found was that

802
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:05,280
teams are playing zone extremely
often against tech 81%, if

803
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,200
memory serves, zone defense.
That's a 40% increase from last

804
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,920
year.
So what they're trying to do, I

805
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,400
think is, you know, flood the
passing lanes, get Kyron off his

806
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,840
primary read, you know, make him
go through his 2nd and 3rd

807
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,960
progressions, essentially have
him scan the field and try to be

808
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,240
a drop back passer.
And for the most part, it's

809
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:23,760
worked pretty well.
Particularly, you know, one

810
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,360
thing that Tech had success with
last year was their short

811
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,920
passing game.
They're really good there in

812
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,960
terms of, you know, throwing
behind a lot of scrimmage screen

813
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,240
passes, you know, get the ball
to your playmakers, get it out

814
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,480
quickly.
Don't let your O line block for

815
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,920
a long period of time and let
your playmakers make plays in

816
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,080
space.
Now that worked really well last

817
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,520
year, but this year their
efficiency on those short throws

818
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,880
has just plummeted.
I think drones was second,

819
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,320
second worst passes rating among
all power Power 4 quarterbacks

820
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:56,600
in efficiency on short throws.
So, you know, that's a big sore

821
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,480
spot for me.
I think, you know, obviously

822
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,200
it's easier when, you know, you
got guys looking at the

823
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,520
quarterback.
They're not logged on to their

824
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,640
man.
And I just think that, you know,

825
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,280
drones has to be able to to to
scan the field a little bit

826
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,920
better, be more consistent in
his footwork and his mechanics,

827
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,840
because I think that's where he
struggled a little bit.

828
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,240
You know, when you're on your
second or third read and you're

829
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:19,200
sitting there in the pocket
having to go through his

830
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,000
progressions and it's it's easy
to, you know, maybe get a little

831
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,480
bit rushed, in which case your
mechanics suffer.

832
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:30,160
So I think if if drones, the
hope is that he can have the

833
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,920
game slowed down for him a
little bit because this is

834
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,600
really the first time in his
career where he's been forced to

835
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,760
be a a traditional drop back
passer.

836
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,840
And it's been it's been a
challenge.

837
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,120
So I think hopefully he gets
better with more experience.

838
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,160
But if I'm a you know, if I'm a
tech fan, that's that's the

839
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,360
biggest concern for me is like,
can tech be efficient against

840
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,240
zone defense when other teams
know they're passing the ball?

841
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,400
Can they?
Can they push it downfield?

842
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,000
Yeah.
And I think to a point, I'm glad

843
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,600
you make the point with the zone
versus man in that case,

844
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Shelton, because one way you can
do zone Busters and everything

845
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,600
is roll the pocket and move,
Karen, because immediately you

846
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,600
start moving and they're
downfield, they're locked on

847
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,720
him, They're usually vacating
zones.

848
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:14,600
People are getting off their
spots.

849
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,800
We talked about, I think you
mentioned a couple weeks ago,

850
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:19,240
we're not rolling the pocket
much.

851
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,320
It's OK to do that, get him
comfortable because we have seen

852
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,360
when he has gotten comfortable,
he is going to make throws.

853
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,840
But you've got to get him there
every week and if it's rolling

854
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,880
the pockets, if it runs zone
reads, RPO, stuff like that.

855
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,840
That's on Tyler Bowen though.
Tyler Bowen's his first thought

856
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,240
should be my first 10 play
should be get Kyron comfortable

857
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,200
and whether it's him running or
passing.

858
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,720
So I'll go flip it.
I didn't even write this on

859
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:49,400
here.
Go better moving forward.

860
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,880
Get Karen comfortable quicker
because the quicker he's

861
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,080
comfortable, the the quicker
he's going to do exactly what

862
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,720
Sheldon's talking about.
He's going to be more come from

863
00:45:56,720 --> 00:45:58,160
the past going through his
reads.

864
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,040
One more piece I'll say I want
to see better going forward.

865
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,680
I don't want any more special
teams blunders.

866
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,800
I want a clean game Saturday.
I don't want double jerseys.

867
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,440
I don't want to block kick.
I don't want to block, punt,

868
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:16,840
clean, write that down.
And the honest truth is this.

869
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,080
That was the best game we've
played all year.

870
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,360
It's been three games in the
best complete game.

871
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,200
I still think the best half of
football was probably against

872
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,920
Vanderbilt.
Honest to God, truth, I think

873
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,600
that was the best half we've
played all year.

874
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,360
But a complete game beginning
in, that's it.

875
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,920
And I think we sit here and
probably everybody watching us

876
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,000
tonight and our fans, I don't
think we're even close to the

877
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,400
peak yet.
No.

878
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,400
I don't think.
Still haven't played a complete

879
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,520
game still.
Haven't played a complete game,

880
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:50,040
still haven't played our best
game, so that's where I'm going

881
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,960
to leave that one last piece.
A lot of people injured and

882
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,000
questionable this week and it's
going to happen.

883
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,760
But I'm for one.
Everybody who's banged up, just

884
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,560
let them sit till Saturday.
And I know you want them to go.

885
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,880
Through practice, but it's like
practice is a good thing, but we

886
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,640
need games.
All righty.

887
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:15,680
So fellows, as you all know, we
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I did not get a chance to reach
out to Jeremy this week to

891
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figure out who's sending me the
PS5.

892
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,680
Somebody won APS 5 and they're
supposed to send it to Curtis.

893
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,880
So if you're listening, if you
want, just get it to him.

894
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,520
Just put it, just put your name
right here in the comment

895
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,440
section and I'll, I'll get with
you and get you my address.

896
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:49,360
So we jump from the Hokies and
tell the truth Tuesday to now we

897
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,080
are going to get to know the
enemy.

898
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,000
And just like last week, we have
found another very special

899
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,760
guest.
So we are introducing this week

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00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,840
part of the college huddle,
Larry K, who was from the

901
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Rutgers Night Watch.
Larry, how are you doing this

902
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,520
evening, Sir?
How you fellas doing?

903
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,040
I'm doing good man.
I'm doing good.

904
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:12,360
Man, rocking and rolling it was,
it was fun.

905
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,360
For those that don't know, me
and Larry had a nice little 45

906
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,280
minute conversation earlier
today.

907
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:21,240
I talked to little Hokies with
him.

908
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,160
He's returning the favor.
Talking a little Scarlet Knights

909
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,480
with us tonight.
Yes, Sir.

910
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,800
Yeah, my show Brian came on and
people got a lot from it.

911
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,680
So it was a lot of fun today and
then I had to hop off and do a

912
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,520
Pro Football thing and then back
with you guys.

913
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,160
So excited about the game
Saturday, Excited to talk

914
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,040
Rutgers and to let you guys know
whatever you want to know.

915
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,080
Awesome.
Well, Larry, before we get into

916
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,320
all the nuts and bolts of the
offense, defense and a little

917
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,720
bit about Rutgers this year, a
little bit about yourself, how

918
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:53,160
did you stumble upon doing a
Rutgers football podcast?

919
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,560
So I had kind of an audio
background.

920
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,080
I had done like different
podcasts growing up, you know,

921
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,760
sometimes current events,
podcasts.

922
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,960
I was into music growing up, so
I kind of had to set up with a

923
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,040
microphone and keyboard and all
Pro Tools and most audiological

924
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,680
stuff.
So I started doing, believe it

925
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,600
or not, I'm a Miami Dolphins fan
for the NFL, even though I'm a

926
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,440
Jersey guy.
Long story, not worth going into

927
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,080
today, but I started a podcast
doing that because I'm like, OK,

928
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,120
I want to talk just about my pro
team, whatever.

929
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,440
It kind of took off.
So then I'm sitting there and

930
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,760
I'm like, you know, I'm a
Rutgers fan too, and I go to

931
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,560
every game and I'm an alum and
I'm like, there's really not a

932
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,640
lot of, you know, content out
there on a regular basis for

933
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,360
Rutgers stuff aside from the
beat writers and whoever.

934
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,280
So there's a void there.
And if I can fill that with the

935
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:42,480
equipment and the wherewithal I
already have, maybe it could go

936
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,240
well.
And it it's so far has gone

937
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:46,880
well.
And then I went on with Zach

938
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,600
Guggenheim of Big 10 Talk and
Big 10 Football Talk, and then

939
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,800
he was kind of involved with
setting up the college huddle.

940
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,560
So they extended me the invite.
I used to write for a site

941
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,840
called On the Banks, which was
like the Rutgers portion of SB

942
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,520
Nation.
And so they kind of ran it kind

943
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,800
of professionally over there.
So I was able to write for them

944
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,560
for quite a while.
Aaron Brightman at the Scarlett

945
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:14,960
Scarlett Faithful, who runs his
own podcast, brought me on to

946
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,240
that, and he was my editor.
So then when there was an

947
00:50:17,240 --> 00:50:20,360
opportunity to go out of my own,
you know, I did it and I write

948
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,800
creatively and whatnot.
So it was kind of like an easy

949
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,360
transition, Hey, And it's a lot
easier to talk all, all the time

950
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,680
than to write it down.
So kind of did night watch my

951
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,280
show and took off from there.
That's awesome, Larry.

952
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,840
And I love hearing kind of that
journey because I think

953
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,800
everybody that's a podcaster
kind of has their own unique

954
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,440
journey of how they got to this,
whether it's just having a, a, a

955
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,920
fun chat with some, with some
fans or whether they kind of

956
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,120
went through, you know, like
you, you know, writing, doing

957
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,720
other podcasts and other venues.
And then you kind of get to,

958
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,240
well, here's my passion and kind
of, you know, you find your

959
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:59,440
niche in, in that fandom.
But it's good to hear that.

960
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,560
Like I said, I, I love jumping
on with you earlier.

961
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,120
It was a really good time and
just just chopping up and

962
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,400
talking some football with you.
So we're going to get to it.

963
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,680
Let's start on the offensive
side of the ball.

964
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,040
Yeah, offensive coordinator Kirk
Shiraka.

965
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,280
What can we expect from this
Scarlet Knights offense when it

966
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:25,560
kicks off at 3:30 on Saturday?
We are, as most probably know

967
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,520
and suspect we are, a ground and
pound.

968
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,680
First thing we want to do is
establish the run game.

969
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:34,080
Kyle Monunguy Really, really
tough runner.

970
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,000
Monster.
Absolute Monster.

971
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,640
Came out of high school with
Jalen Berger in the same class

972
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:44,000
and Jalen got all the hype and
fanfare, but Mananga has been

973
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,320
the steady presence who's
developed from freshman to now.

974
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:50,560
Decided to come back.
I thought his stock was pretty

975
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,480
high last year.
Came back to school for this

976
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,640
year, has been running his butt
off the first two weeks already.

977
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,040
They're going to like to try to
get in there, you know, inside

978
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,360
the tackles, inside the guards.
But once every once in a while,

979
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,080
once they've established that,
Kyle's going to see the pile and

980
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,040
he's going to cut back and try
to find a lane outside and cut

981
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,680
around that way.
They tried to build the pass

982
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,280
game off of the run.
You might have some play fakes

983
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,320
and they're going to try to take
a deep shot or two.

984
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,000
Last year, Gavin Wimsett was the
quarterback, had a lot of

985
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,800
wheels, had a lot of legs.
But this year, Athan

986
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,160
Kaliakmanis, who's a Minnesota
transfer, came in and he was a

987
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,120
starter for about a year and a
half, I believe at Minnesota.

988
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,000
He's reunited with Kirk Shiraka
and he's pretty accurate

989
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,320
quarterback.
I think his issues might come in

990
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:40,480
when he tries to squeeze it a
little bit into coverage.

991
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,800
But he can he can hit guys in
stride.

992
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,200
He can hit guys down the field.
So you're looking for a running

993
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,680
offense that tries to take its
shots.

994
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,960
The only thing that's non
traditional, when I say

995
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,000
traditional, I'm talking, you
know, millennial.

996
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,920
So the 80s I formation is not
there.

997
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,760
You know, we got one back, three
wide outs and a tight end.

998
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:02,120
But other than that, it looks
fairly fairly traditional.

999
00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:05,520
Hey, let me ask this, Larry,
what was the feeling not only of

1000
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,960
yourself, but you know, your
friends, fellow alums, when the

1001
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,400
Gavin Winstadt did leave and
they brought in Athena or you,

1002
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,920
you said his name Perfect.
I'm terribly I don't know the

1003
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:20,240
Greek kid, the Greek kid.
That's what I want to call other

1004
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,200
Greek kid We keep.
Going down, yeah.

1005
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,080
Yeah.
But what was the thought?

1006
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:27,840
Because like with us, Winstadt,
I mean, he gashed us last year

1007
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,040
with some of those read options,
some of those, you know, like

1008
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,280
quarterback sweeps.
And for us, we're looking like

1009
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,600
he's gone.
Wait a second, there goes the

1010
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,320
running element away.
I think, you know, for the

1011
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,520
longest time Rutgers and there's
been these debates in football

1012
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:46,760
circles, you know, Rutgers has a
a chance to get athletes at the

1013
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,160
quarterback position given their
recruiting territory.

1014
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,880
And should we go for a dual
threat quarterback?

1015
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,360
We finally do it with Gavin, who
happens to be from Kentucky.

1016
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,120
I, I, I really like the kid,
quite frankly.

1017
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,400
He came in young, he was
developing, he had wheels and he

1018
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,640
had the arm talent.
The thing was, as the season

1019
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:08,200
progressed, I think Rutgers fans
thought that, wow, we're in a

1020
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,800
better position in 2023 than we
actually expected to be.

1021
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,960
We're a little bit ahead of
schedule and if you look at some

1022
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,400
of the the games down the
stretch, get bowl eligible

1023
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,320
fairly early.
Everybody expected it because of

1024
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,440
the way the schedule, you know,
shook out that we would lose a

1025
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,040
lot of games towards the end of
the year.

1026
00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:27,520
But nonetheless, it kind of
takes its toll on the fan base.

1027
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,120
And they're saying if we could
have completed a pass here, this

1028
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,640
guy was wide open there.
There were accuracy issues with

1029
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,600
Gavin Wimset that were hard to
deny.

1030
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,600
Now.
I loved the player and I

1031
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:39,960
actually was still rooting for
him.

1032
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,200
They bring in at 8th and Caliac
Manis and I'm rooting for for

1033
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,600
Gavin to continue to progress
and to win the quarterback

1034
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,800
competition.
But after spring ball and even

1035
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,800
during the spring game, you
know, it's just evident that

1036
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,320
Athens landing simple passes,
you know, screen passes, quick

1037
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,280
slants, passes that get the ball
in the hands of I think some

1038
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,640
pretty talented playmakers that
given the running game, if you

1039
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,200
could protect the ball.
And Gavin wasn't a turnover

1040
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,080
machine.
He just wasn't completing his

1041
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,800
passes at a high enough clip.
If you can be a little more

1042
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,040
accurate and land the ball in
the hands of your playmakers

1043
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,680
early in a play, I think Rutgers
thought they had a chance to be

1044
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,280
even better.
And after spring ball, Schiano

1045
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,240
talked with Gavin, from what I
understand, and the competition

1046
00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:27,760
wasn't even close.
So Gavin was afforded the chance

1047
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,600
to go elsewhere.
Now you lose something with the

1048
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,720
wheels with Athan Kelly, Mattis.
Now he can look at, there's

1049
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:36,560
designed runs.
He has some wheels, not the same

1050
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,160
type of wheels.
From watching the first two

1051
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,760
weeks.
There could be issues where you

1052
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,840
know, Gavin wouldn't have thrown
it or would have thrown it away.

1053
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,000
Maybe Athan's trying to sneak it
in there At the same time.

1054
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,600
There's a lot.
The ball is on the numbers, the

1055
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,160
ball's on time and it's on time
and on the numbers at a much

1056
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,800
greater clip than we saw with
Gavin.

1057
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:00,160
So it's a different attribute
from the quarterback position,

1058
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:02,720
but it's I think Rutgers thinks
anyway.

1059
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:05,240
And Kirk Shiraka thinks it's
beneficial because now the

1060
00:56:05,240 --> 00:56:06,600
ball's in the hand of your
playmakers.

1061
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,000
Gavin was a playmaker.
So it's give and take, but.

1062
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,000
Yeah, Yeah.
So you're losing some of that

1063
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,360
dynamic playmaking ability, but
you're upping the chance of

1064
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,960
getting the ball more quickly
and accurately to your other

1065
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,120
playmakers in that offense.
So like you said, some give and

1066
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,880
take there.
Since you talked about the

1067
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,040
playmakers, who were some of the
other playmakers on this

1068
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,080
offense?
Well, what's interesting is I

1069
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,160
was going to kind of, and I
thank you for the segue there

1070
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,880
too.
I mean, Christian Dremel was the

1071
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,640
leading receiver on the team
last year.

1072
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,440
He's now the 4th receiver on the
team.

1073
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,600
I mean, and that just kind of
shows how much they tried to

1074
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:42,360
build up that playmaking talent.
Now, Chris Long, who broke a

1075
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,840
bunch of high school records in
New Jersey, he's a junior.

1076
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,160
He's been with the team for
quite some time, but he

1077
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,400
constantly would run into injury
problems.

1078
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,600
Every year.
He's a deep ball threat.

1079
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:56,240
He had a long touchdown against
Akron the other week and he's

1080
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,640
back in the starting lineup.
He's on the edge.

1081
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:03,360
Damir Miller comes up a level
from Monmouth University.

1082
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,080
He was the leading, I think he
was a leading Mac receiver last

1083
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,240
year and he came up and he's
been in the slot.

1084
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,520
He's been a really, really good
at getting separation, coming

1085
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,760
back for the ball.
He knows the intricacies of

1086
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,240
route running and he's actually
been a really good asset to the

1087
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,040
team.
Dremel was kind of playing that

1088
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:22,560
position and now he's the
backup.

1089
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:28,600
And then you have Ian Strong,
who was from Long Island.

1090
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:33,000
He's a sophomore.
Last year you saw some flashes.

1091
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,160
He's a bigger bodied receiver.
He can get open.

1092
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,600
He has good hands.
You saw some flashes last year,

1093
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,880
especially in the red zone.
And now this year he's taking

1094
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,920
the next step.
I mean, his body has changed a

1095
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,440
lot.
He's really come into his own

1096
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:50,480
and he's playing on the edge.
So those three guys in addition

1097
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:54,080
to Manungai are are an
interesting bunch.

1098
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:57,800
And then you have Fletcher, the
tight end who was a converted D

1099
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:03,240
end D lineman and he's got two
touchdowns through two weeks.

1100
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,920
Victor Konopka's the other tight
end.

1101
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,440
You look at their blocking
abilities and you know they're

1102
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,040
still developing in that realm.
But as far as going out and

1103
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,800
catching the ball, Fletcher's
been a pleasant surprise and a

1104
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,000
nice addition.
So watch for him to come out in

1105
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:20,840
the flat.
You know, they like to set that

1106
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:24,000
up to you're looking at the guys
downfield, you got the play

1107
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,360
fake.
All the sudden Kyle is going to

1108
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,840
block and Fletcher's breaking
off into the flat.

1109
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:30,480
He's got two touchdowns that
way.

1110
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,560
So they like those short passes.
They like to get the ball in the

1111
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,280
hands of these athletes and run,
run it that way.

1112
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,000
Larry, you know, something
that's been a little bit more

1113
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,280
impressive to me as well and Amy
didn't mention is the backup

1114
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,680
running back.
I think it's Raymond when

1115
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,920
Menonga goes out and he's
catching a breather.

1116
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,280
I mean, y'all's backup running
back is getting 5 yards to carry

1117
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,240
as well.
So it's just kind of a

1118
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,800
implication to what your
offensive line is doing.

1119
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,560
I mean, again, like I said about
our team, doesn't matter who you

1120
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,320
play, it matters about you.
Like you can play in the in the

1121
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,120
country, if you're not doing
what you're supposed to do,

1122
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:06,520
you're not going to be
effective.

1123
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,520
Anybody getting 5 yards of
carry, it looks like that

1124
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,880
offensive line is pushing.
So again, I know you didn't

1125
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,240
mention that name, but that was
one of the names that I looked

1126
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,200
at.
And if your if your running

1127
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:20,040
backs doing good, your start
running backs doing good and

1128
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,480
your backup running backs coming
in and they're getting 5 yards

1129
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,600
of carry somebody's blocking.
And, and just to your point too,

1130
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,440
he's.
Actually, the third when when

1131
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,000
Sam Brown is healthy, Sam
Brown's number 2, Raymond's

1132
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,000
number three, and then you have
Benjamin, who got some run last

1133
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,200
year.
But great point.

1134
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,080
I mean, when I look at those
first two games, I'm trying to

1135
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,280
glean what I can from the way we
executed, the way Rutgers

1136
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,720
executed and not so much on the
opponent.

1137
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,320
There were some things
obviously, that I was critical

1138
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:47,720
of, but then some things look
good.

1139
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,080
That offensive line has come a
very long way from being really

1140
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,120
undersized in the Big 10 a
couple years ago, really getting

1141
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,080
manhandled and pushed around to
last year really took root where

1142
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,720
against Ohio State before they
pulled away in the second-half.

1143
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,800
I mean, we were running the ball
well on them.

1144
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,320
And that offensive line returns
a bunch of starters too.

1145
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,600
And so, you know, you got Big
Holland Pierce on the ending.

1146
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,720
Might be a A draft pick.
You have Zelinskis, who's

1147
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,800
another interior lineman, a
center that's another Greek name

1148
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,160
trying to get right.
But you called me right.

1149
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,280
I'm like I.
Got.

1150
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,160
I got on curves for the for the
Athena and now look at me with

1151
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,800
the S and Hey Larry, when I sent
you over the the.

1152
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,520
Outline there you saw I had the
pronunciations in there there's

1153
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,920
a reason I was going to
compliment you Sir on that and I

1154
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,160
was like you know I.
Need I need to do that for my

1155
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,320
guests and whatnot because it
it's helpful.

1156
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,720
Sometimes you're looking at a
name, you're like, oh boy, what

1157
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:44,280
am I going to do?
I'm going to get this right.

1158
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,400
We got to, we got to get Larry
off here, y'all?

1159
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,520
I just because, I mean, we just
called him in a lie, he said.

1160
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,360
They're undersized.
And then we look at Holland

1161
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,520
Pearce and he's 68350.
Nothing.

1162
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,320
Nothing.
About that, man says.

1163
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:58,640
Undersized.
No.

1164
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:00,760
So he's a big.
So they were undersized.

1165
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,960
Line, he was one of the first
guys who they were just looking

1166
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:04,920
for big bodies.
So he's a kid from Trenton

1167
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,240
showed up, the story goes, you
know, in the parking lot and I'm

1168
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,640
sure it was arranged or
whatever, but really needed a

1169
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,200
lot of development, you know,
with his body, with his skills.

1170
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,960
And this coaching staff has
developed him and he is a you,

1171
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,440
you sitting like my seats are
pretty close and I'm looking

1172
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,160
this dude is towering over
everybody and he's a big man.

1173
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,000
So it started with him and then
they kind of they really built

1174
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,120
that line.
So it's a testament now that we

1175
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,800
can run the ball the way we are.
It's it's the the old line.

1176
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,440
And I say this in any football
conversation I'm in.

1177
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,680
I know you guys brought it up.
So you already know starts in

1178
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,400
the trenches, man.
And the fact that the trenches

1179
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,040
have been much better.
That's why Rutgers is is better

1180
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,720
right now.
Yeah.

1181
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,800
So much you got.
Yeah, well, well, tally kind.

1182
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:46,920
Of took my question because I
wanted.

1183
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,640
To ask how that how that running
back trio kind of plays off each

1184
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:50,640
other.
It seems like they've all got

1185
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,360
some pretty good, pretty good
skill sets.

1186
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,320
But I'll go with this.
I think we we know Rutgers

1187
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,680
statistically has has had a
great start to the season.

1188
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,280
I think the big knock is the
quality of competition, which

1189
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,080
is, you know, always tricky to
evaluate when you're early in

1190
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,760
the season.
Even though they played some

1191
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,680
inferior teams.
I mean, look, they'd be accurate

1192
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,760
by 42.
You know, Tech struggled with

1193
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,200
ODU for a little bit.
So, you know, don't don't take a

1194
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:18,120
42.1 for granted.
But can you see the team, even

1195
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:19,720
though they're, they're playing
lesser opponents?

1196
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:23,440
Can you, can you see the, I
guess the talent there and, and

1197
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,480
and kind of, you know, maintain
that optimism that you guys are

1198
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:29,240
in for a pretty good season,
even though, like we said, not

1199
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,760
the not the murderous Rd. here,
but can you just see the the

1200
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,920
potential there that that you've
you've shown through two games?

1201
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,560
Yeah, I think it's a great
question.

1202
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,600
Too.
And I think starting off the

1203
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,840
season, because this is the
first time we're not in the Big

1204
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,240
10 E so there's no Ohio State,
there's no Michigan, there's no

1205
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,240
Penn State on the schedule.
Now you you insert a couple West

1206
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:50,720
Coast teams that are very
talented.

1207
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,400
You got to go on the road to
USC.

1208
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,640
But when you look at the
schedule and the bye weeks and

1209
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,600
you know the travel schedule
with West Coast to East Coast, a

1210
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,400
lot of optimism in Rutgers
circles, you know that this

1211
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,720
could be one of the better years
we've had in a while.

1212
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:10,960
I think oddly, despite the the
way we play those first two

1213
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,400
teams, I don't think there is
negativity.

1214
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,440
But what I would say is some of
the realities.

1215
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,880
Of the team like this is.
Still real life, right?

1216
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,920
And I, I think I predicted a
nine and three season, which is

1217
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,000
on the optimistic.
So I think it's, it's, it's

1218
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,040
feasible.
People were saying 10 and two

1219
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,840
people were, I say it was
anywhere from 5:00 and 7:00 to

1220
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,200
10:00 and 2:00 because so many
of these games are toss UPS.

1221
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,800
It's the first time in a while.
But I'll say that like when you

1222
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,840
actually see it on the field
now, now you see the good and

1223
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,560
you see the bad and you see the
reality and there hasn't been

1224
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:48,000
anything per SE bad.
But I think like when you see

1225
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,080
Rutgers go up against Howard and
Athan Khaliq, Manis is just

1226
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,280
throwing the ball everywhere and
everything's pinpoint accurate.

1227
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,040
You're getting excited.
But then you come back the next

1228
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:58,440
week and he's squeezing balls in
the first half into double

1229
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,520
coverage.
We get lucky on a touchdown

1230
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:04,760
catch where it ricochets off of
somebody and then he throws an

1231
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,280
interception while he's getting
hit.

1232
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:10,800
I just think some things the
receivers are talented, they're

1233
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,120
good, but they're you know,
Howard played them tough and

1234
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:15,360
they Akron played them tough in
the beginning of that game.

1235
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,240
They there was some separation
issues.

1236
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:24,160
So I could be being NID picky,
but I think we're seeing some

1237
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:28,360
just reality.
And so I think I'm still very

1238
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:30,960
optimistic about the season, but
I'm I'm watching for the first

1239
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,360
true test now, which is this
week, like the first, you know,

1240
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,360
real game that you know, and we
always had it circled like this

1241
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:41,240
is this is where it starts.
I'm just really sheerly curious,

1242
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,000
you know, Nice.
Well, let's pivot.

1243
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,680
We've you've given us a ton of
information on offense to

1244
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,640
players to watch the scheme, to
look for the backgrounds of

1245
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,000
these guys and that's what we're
here for man.

1246
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,880
So we can know more about
Rutgers for us, we call it know

1247
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,920
the enemy.
You have given us a very good

1248
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,080
description of what you guys
want to do on offense.

1249
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,080
Let's look at the defense.
Defensive coordinator.

1250
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:05,720
Brian, you did the
pronunciation.

1251
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:10,160
I'm going to try my best here.
Joe Harasimiak, very close.

1252
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,280
OK, Samiak.
Harasimiak.

1253
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,920
Samiak, Harasimiak.
How I talk.

1254
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:19,320
This is Harasimiak.
Yeah, I was going to say, Larry,

1255
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,040
I was going to.
Say I think that you're wasting

1256
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:23,720
your talent trying to do
football podcast.

1257
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,080
You should just get on TikTok
and like eat food and review it.

1258
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,280
Like you'll make some money
because of your accent, man.

1259
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,040
Like you just sound like a wise
guy, you know what I'm saying?

1260
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,480
Like come on, man, go get you
some pizza and eat it on TikTok

1261
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:38,760
and you're going to make
millions of dollars.

1262
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,800
What are you doing?
I like that I got to get on

1263
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,080
TikTok bro.
I've been I've been holding out

1264
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,320
for so long and get on TikTok
and eat you'll be good.

1265
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,360
So tell me how this defense eats
what, what, what have they were

1266
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,640
running.
I had a pivot.

1267
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,240
So I love that pivot.
That's a beautiful.

1268
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:01,520
Pivot so Joe Joe comes in from
Minnesota as well and he's he's

1269
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,600
he's done really, really well
here.

1270
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:10,440
They run an interesting four to
five defense where you got 2

1271
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,360
linebackers and it relies on a
lot of athleticism from the

1272
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:16,480
linebackers.
You have 3 safeties, one of whom

1273
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,200
is a quasi linebacker and
that's, you know, you're going

1274
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,160
to have Flip Dixon or you're
going to have Igbinosa and

1275
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,000
they're going to sneak up.
They're going to kind of get in

1276
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,680
there in the mid level of that
defense sometimes and and and

1277
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,000
confront the run or cover
somebody in the short passing

1278
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:36,800
lanes.
The linebacker core is a really

1279
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,160
interesting thing for Rutgers
right now because you started

1280
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:42,600
the season preseason with
Motoray, who was maybe our best

1281
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:47,360
player on defense last year.
Sack leader, really great story.

1282
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,480
He he goes down for the season
before it even starts.

1283
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:55,320
So he's out and and he was a
Rutgers likes to because it's a

1284
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:56,680
425.
It's such an interesting

1285
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:58,520
defense.
It's such a a multiple look

1286
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,600
defense.
They like to move guys around.

1287
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,240
So he would sneak up on passing
downs onto the edge and all

1288
01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:04,520
these things.
Now he's gone.

1289
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,480
Tyrene Powell, who was arguably
maybe the best defender on the

1290
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:12,960
entire team last year.
He goes down last year against

1291
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,640
Ohio State, then sustains
another injury like an Achilles

1292
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,360
in the offseason.
He, I believe, is going to be

1293
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:24,080
able to go this week, but I'm
not positive on that Now.

1294
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:27,120
I knew that there was a chance
he could start the season, but I

1295
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,280
always said he's not going to.
You're not going to see him

1296
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:32,080
until Virginia Tech.
I don't know if we're going to

1297
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,120
see him, but there's rumblings
we might.

1298
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,720
There's now.
So Moses Walker and Jabomi,

1299
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,080
those are the two guys that were
kind of stepping up for them.

1300
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,080
Moses Walker, a New York kid,
was a flip from Penn State,

1301
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,160
showing a lot of flashes, still
learning the position.

1302
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:52,400
As far as being in position.
Jabomi had a great game against

1303
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,200
Howard, struggled more against
Akron.

1304
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,200
A lot's going to come down to
those linebackers and their

1305
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,040
horizontal play.
If Powell plays, it bodes better

1306
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,000
for the defense.
Safeties.

1307
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,600
I, I love Shaquan Loyal is, is
somebody who lays, hits hard,

1308
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,440
comes up with the ball when it's
when it's coming his way.

1309
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:15,000
Flip Dixon, another another guy
who's been very good for this

1310
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,680
team.
He's had some injury troubles

1311
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:21,680
early in the year, but he's back
at it and Igmanosa and like I

1312
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,040
said, is another talented
player.

1313
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,200
So the other thing to watch is
Wesley Bailey, one of our ends

1314
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:28,640
on defense.
He's been hurt.

1315
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,080
He's been out the first two
weeks I predicted him to be the

1316
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:36,040
sack leader with Toray out.
I when he's not hurt and dinged

1317
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:39,640
up, his motor is probably the
best on the team right now.

1318
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,040
He's a good rusher, good pass
rusher, very good pass rusher.

1319
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,760
Aaron Lewis on the other side,
the interior guys, we're still

1320
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,080
waiting to see who really
flashes.

1321
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,840
Malcolm Ray had a sack up the
middle in the interior of the

1322
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,240
defense last week.
I mean two weeks ago.

1323
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:57,040
So we're seeing how they
develop.

1324
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,760
But it's a it's an interesting
defense going to give you

1325
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,080
multiple looks.
You're going to rely on those

1326
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,920
linebackers roaming around in
that mid level, and if they

1327
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,960
can't do it, running lanes are
going to get open at some point,

1328
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,920
especially to the outside.
Passing lanes can open up and

1329
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,680
the intermediate passes, which
you know, then the safeties

1330
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,800
might make the play, but you
might be moving down the field.

1331
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,200
A lot comes down to that
linebacker play because they got

1332
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,560
to hold down a lot of space and
that safety play.

1333
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:26,240
So one more thing I'll say is
our pass rush as far as sacks

1334
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,600
has not been where we wanted it
last year or the beginning of

1335
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,160
this year.
And a lot of that, I think comes

1336
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,479
down to Bailey coming back and
then Lewis on the other side

1337
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,319
being able to close out some of
his pressures.

1338
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,120
We'll see if that happens,
especially against the mobile

1339
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:40,760
quarterback who can make plays
this week.

1340
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,080
So yeah, I know you had
mentioned that when we were we.

1341
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:48,720
Were talking earlier, you know
the concern is, you know, I

1342
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,880
mentioned that we've for the
most part had some struggles

1343
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,319
from a pass protection
standpoint.

1344
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:55,640
You're like we have well we
haven't done a very good job of

1345
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:59,200
getting to the quarterback.
So it may be a little weakness

1346
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,080
on weakness from a defensive
versus offensive standpoint

1347
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,480
there.
Sean, what you got?

1348
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:05,840
Yeah.
So I wanted to ask.

1349
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,520
About the cornerbacks and 1st
off, I want to give a shout out

1350
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:12,080
to 1 of Rutgers's cornerbacks.
That is Robert Longer Beam, the

1351
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:16,960
pride of Alexandria, VA.
He was part of that 2020

1352
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,640
Virginia high school football
class that was, to be polite, a

1353
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,760
little bit underwhelming.
Antoine Powell Ryland was also

1354
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:24,400
part of that class.
So you got two guys from that

1355
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,720
class going against each other.
I remember looking him up last

1356
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,960
year when when Tech and Rutgers
played, probably I would say

1357
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,360
maybe one of the best three or
four players in that entire

1358
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,400
class, even though he wasn't the
most highly regarded recruit.

1359
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:39,840
But shout out to him.
But one of your stud

1360
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,160
quarterbacks is Eric Rodgers.
He's a fifth year senior, ranked

1361
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:46,360
6th in the country among all
defensive backs in overall grade

1362
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:48,800
at 87.
Hasn't really been targeted

1363
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:49,880
much.
I would imagine that's because

1364
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,960
he's not letting guys get open
very much and top ten in

1365
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,920
coverage grade as well.
So talk about Rodgers, what he

1366
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,640
does well, his best skill sets
and just how you feel like the

1367
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,440
the coverage defense has played
out so far.

1368
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:02,840
You know, longer beam, I
thought.

1369
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,800
We had Max Melton last year who
went to the the league this year

1370
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,960
and his brother, obviously Beau
Melton and and I thought longer

1371
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,160
being longer Beam has been just
such a good player for us.

1372
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:17,480
And they weren't even really
throwing his way a lot last year

1373
01:11:17,480 --> 01:11:19,520
because he was such a shutdown
corner.

1374
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,800
There's some story that he I
guess he left campus.

1375
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,520
He wasn't going to commit or
Schiano like followed him, like

1376
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,720
flew down there, went to his
family's house.

1377
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:32,080
Like I mean, very highly sought
after by by this coaching staff.

1378
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:36,240
They're very high on him as the
Riemann beam podcast that he

1379
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,440
does too.
So look him.

1380
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:42,160
And so Rogers comes in and steps
up into Melton's position and I

1381
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:43,560
think people were pretty high on
him.

1382
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,120
He kind of developed last year
and in times when he had to step

1383
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,200
in, started performing quite
well.

1384
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,440
I think people predicted early
in the season that he would come

1385
01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:56,040
up with some interceptions
because they were going to throw

1386
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,560
away from longer beam.
And if they're throwing at

1387
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,240
Rogers, he's going to come away
with some.

1388
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:02,880
I believe he came away with one,
I think one of the first two

1389
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,400
weeks.
And my, my brain is all over the

1390
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,960
place now that's late.
But he's a ball hawk and he's

1391
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,000
going to be able to to stay on
guys and he might take a gamble

1392
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,840
here and there to grab the ball,
But if he does, he'll come away

1393
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,400
with it.
And those guys are both very

1394
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:21,120
talented and, and the fact that
Max left it was highly regarded

1395
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,080
and we were able to fill that
pretty quickly is a testament to

1396
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,960
the depth on the team.
And then behind them it gets a

1397
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,320
little more dicey because you
have like Al Shadiz Salaam who

1398
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,560
was a running back converted.
So it it gets a little dicey

1399
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,960
behind them, but they they are
quick, they are going to be able

1400
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,880
to cover.
They need to be in position and

1401
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:43,920
not take gamble's.
We had another long kind of

1402
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:47,200
couple long passes the first
couple weeks of the season and

1403
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,120
some blown coverages and things.
One of them might have been

1404
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,400
loyal or the safety's fault on
a, on a corner blitz, but

1405
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,440
they're going to try to grab
that ball and they're going to

1406
01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:57,360
try to stay on guys.
They have the speed, they can

1407
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,400
stay with them, they have the
hands.

1408
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,440
They're all going to hit.
They all can tackle and they

1409
01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:04,720
come up and and they make
tackles and they're not going to

1410
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,760
be afraid to try to stop
somebody for a short gain after

1411
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,680
a catch.
But but that's the tale of those

1412
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,840
two guys.
Yeah.

1413
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,720
And you've got you've.
Got Rodgers You.

1414
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:16,400
Weren't lying.
Y'all's first score of the

1415
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,120
season was his pick 6 versus
Howard.

1416
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:22,520
I thought it was 52 yards and
the Tyrene Powell we, we talked

1417
01:13:22,520 --> 01:13:24,600
about Tyrene Powell a ton last
year in the preview.

1418
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:28,240
Tyrene Powell was a hokey
commit, flipped to Rutgers very

1419
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,800
late in the process.
And he led in in the game last

1420
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:35,240
year, he led the team in tackle.
So for us, it's like, I'm glad

1421
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:38,520
he doesn't have those few games
to get ready for Tech because

1422
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,600
coming in cold at linebacker,
are you reading your keys right?

1423
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,000
Are you going to the right gaps?
Are you missing assignments?

1424
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:44,880
Do you know where you need to
go?

1425
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:49,120
So that's a big thing.
So let me ask this as a Rutgers

1426
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,600
fan, you're sitting here and
obviously you and Brian had the

1427
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,080
discussion.
You're probably looking at

1428
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,560
tapes, stats, data.
What is concerning you most with

1429
01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:02,080
the Scarlet Knights heading into
lane on Saturday afternoon, the

1430
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:06,440
defense containing.
You know your offensive scheme

1431
01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:11,360
and and a mobile quarterback who
can make plays off script and on

1432
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,600
script.
The fact is, and I was talking

1433
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,960
to Brian a little bit, you know,
this, this RPO, this spread run

1434
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:22,720
type offense, linebackers are
concerned because of health and

1435
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,760
because of rust for us and
containing a running

1436
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,160
quarterback.
The first week against Howard,

1437
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:33,040
Scroggins got out of that pocket
and he made plays downfield and

1438
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:38,080
he was able to escape a bunch.
And you know, for a defense that

1439
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,200
relies on that horizontal speed
to be able to contain guys who's

1440
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,480
got a guy coming off an injury
and another guy out, other guys

1441
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:48,280
learning that linebacker
position, you're going to have

1442
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:51,040
to that D line.
If they get back there, they're

1443
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,880
going to have to understand that
you can't, you know, if they

1444
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:56,680
dive at him too quick or they
let him get outside.

1445
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,080
Now where's that linebacker help
the secondary?

1446
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:03,400
Like I said, we're running, you
know, that many three safety.

1447
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,360
So so they can get up there and
they can keep an eye on him and

1448
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:10,800
they have the closing speed.
But I'm worried about that

1449
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,040
offense, you know, the way it's
going to spread them out and the

1450
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,480
way that quarterback is going to
be able to make plays off script

1451
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,360
anywhere in the middle of that
defense or the middle of the

1452
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,920
field, that could cause Rutgers
problems.

1453
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,960
And I think that it's the 1st
Rd. game of the year.

1454
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,080
The environment is obviously
well known.

1455
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,320
And so you're going into a rough
environment.

1456
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:35,720
And I talked to Brian about
this.

1457
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,280
If there's a big play that gets
Rutgers on their heels, they

1458
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,400
want to, they want to be a ball
control offense.

1459
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,160
They want to run the ball
incrementally down the field and

1460
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:44,720
take their shots when they're
available.

1461
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:49,040
If they get on their heels where
there's a big player to and the

1462
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:53,640
crowds into it and they're not
able to establish that running

1463
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,800
offense and incrementally get
down the field or a couple

1464
01:15:56,800 --> 01:16:00,040
drives stall in that way, I
think that could be a problem

1465
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:03,880
because if they get behind too
much, they're just not built to

1466
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,480
sling the ball all over the
field.

1467
01:16:05,480 --> 01:16:09,080
And so I think the way those two
teams are built, it's going to

1468
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:11,000
be really interesting.
I was telling Brian this exact

1469
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,040
thing.
Who establishes their identity

1470
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,640
first?
Are we establishing, you know, a

1471
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,480
run RPO type system where
there's quick strikes and

1472
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:20,160
there's a quarterback that's
making plays?

1473
01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:25,520
Or are we establishing this a
between the tackles, Rutgers

1474
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,280
type thing where, you know,
we're going to laboriously get

1475
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,320
down the field and try to
control the pace of the game,

1476
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,320
but that's going to go a long
way in determining the outcome?

1477
01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:38,640
Yeah, I think when.
You talk about that.

1478
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,320
A shortened game, a game where
the clock is running a lot,

1479
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:46,440
definitely I think plays into
Rutgers favor, much like it did

1480
01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:50,200
when we were playing Vanderbilt
down in Nashville where they

1481
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,680
kept the clock moving.
They they kept matriculating the

1482
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,680
ball down the field.
We couldn't get off the field on

1483
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,920
3rd down with that triple option
attack.

1484
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,960
If we have a similar situation
but with the non guy between the

1485
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,560
tackles, it could be a long day
for the Hokies.

1486
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:06,920
Sheldon, you got something
before we flip it over to the

1487
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,880
last question here for Larry.
No, I think.

1488
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,360
Yeah, I think I'm good.
I know, like I said, the the the

1489
01:17:14,480 --> 01:17:17,360
secondary has been pretty good
County Hamilton has been the

1490
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,240
highest grade defensive lineman,
So you know, they've been able

1491
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,960
to get some some pretty good
pressure again factor in the

1492
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,280
competition, but it just seems
like they've been pretty, pretty

1493
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,840
engaged on all fronts.
Nice So.

1494
01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:29,680
Let let me ask you this.
Larry, before we let you go for

1495
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,800
the night, if you're settling.
In for the prime time.

1496
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,840
Games on Saturday night with a
big smile on your face.

1497
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,320
What do you think played the
biggest factor in that Rutgers

1498
01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:45,200
win containing drones?
Containing the quarterback, I

1499
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:50,400
mean, you do a good job of
limiting the damage he does, you

1500
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:54,840
know, with his, his skill set,
which is a wide-ranging 1 flat

1501
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,400
out.
I, I, I have seen it just, so it

1502
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,280
just seems that Rutgers, when
they're playing their game under

1503
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,320
Schiano, they, they fare well,
especially with the way the line

1504
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:08,880
is now with the power team that,
that big 10 line up helmet on

1505
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,400
helmet and play a straight up,
they tend to do well.

1506
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,400
What I've seen throughout the
years, and this goes all the way

1507
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,800
back with Shiano defenses is
when a quarterback is getting

1508
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:20,360
too much off script and he's
making too many things happen on

1509
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,560
his own, they can struggle and
they can kind of get bewildered

1510
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:25,800
a little like what are we doing?
Cuz keeping UPS hard.

1511
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,520
That defense can contain him and
his damage is limited.

1512
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:33,080
I think they're going to then be
able to establish the run and I

1513
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:36,960
think they're going to be able
to to keep it where they want it

1514
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,120
and then they might be able to
pull out a victory at the end.

1515
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:42,920
So that's what I think the key
to victory really is, honestly.

1516
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,360
All right, Larry.
We appreciate it, Larry.

1517
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:49,520
Before we let you go, where can
we see the show?

1518
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,440
Where can we follow you on
Twitter, Instagram let you get

1519
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:55,280
all that out before we let you
roll here.

1520
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:57,720
Yes Sir man, so night watch if
you.

1521
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,800
Just type in night watch Larry K
like like a night.

1522
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,800
If you put in just Night Watch
without Larry K, you're going to

1523
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,760
get like the, you know, like
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1524
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,760
park and like, it's a lot of
weird stuff.

1525
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,560
That goes Have to remember the
Larry Kay, please Larry Kay so

1526
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,480
you don't go down the rabbit.
Hole I don't know if we'll find

1527
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:18,400
you after that night watch with
Larry Kay on YouTube.

1528
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,880
You'll see my show there.
Click subscribe, guys, whatever

1529
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:24,440
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1530
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:26,920
I'm part of the college huddle
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1531
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,760
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So find me on YouTube.

1532
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,800
And then if you type the same
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1533
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:37,800
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1534
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:40,440
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networks.

1535
01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:43,680
I do an audio version my show
with Brian's on on YouTube right

1536
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,240
now and it's already on all the
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1537
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,040
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1538
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,720
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1539
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:53,600
change the name because I do so
many different things like it

1540
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,320
doesn't say night watch.
Let me just give it to you right

1541
01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:56,720
now in case you guys want to
follow me there.

1542
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,760
All kinds of interesting things.
Yeah, just just Larry KNJ.

1543
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:06,360
So Larry under score K under
score NJ and you could find me

1544
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:08,160
on Twitter.
You'll see Rutgers content,

1545
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,080
college football content.
And a bunch of other stuff.

1546
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,200
You guys have been an absolute
pleasure, Brian.

1547
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,440
I appreciate you coming out with
me.

1548
01:20:14,440 --> 01:20:16,920
You guys are awesome.
Made my night just kind of

1549
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:18,360
chilling talking ball with you
guys.

1550
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,640
So I'm wishing you guys luck,
you know, this week and the rest

1551
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:23,160
of the year, hopefully hoping we
win.

1552
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,800
But I think it'll be a fun
season for both of us either

1553
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:28,320
way.
So happy we're playing,

1554
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,320
hopefully play again, you know,
and looking forward to it.

1555
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,800
Yeah, we appreciate you taking
the time tonight.

1556
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,400
We appreciate you letting Brian
come on your show a bit earlier.

1557
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,720
Definitely love being part of
the college huddle.

1558
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,320
You guys follow that.
They're all out there.

1559
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,440
So many teams to go find out
whoever the Hokies are playing

1560
01:20:44,440 --> 01:20:46,120
next week, see how that team's
feeling.

1561
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,400
And Larry, from the sound of it,
you don't don't talk Rutgers.

1562
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:50,800
You're talking college ball all
the time.

1563
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,360
And we love to hear that man.
So take care of yourself up in

1564
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,720
New Jersey and we hopefully see
you in the future, man.

1565
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,760
Yes, Sir.
Looking forward to.

1566
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,480
It later get that TikTok.
Started man.

1567
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,200
See you later.
Good.

1568
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:07,000
See ya.
All righty.

1569
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,680
So great segment there with
Larry.

1570
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:11,960
A lot of information about the
players, about what they're

1571
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,720
doing up there.
Got to love to see it again.

1572
01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:16,600
It's great being part of this
network.

1573
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:20,280
We can bring people on or in our
case, Brian, going on sharing a

1574
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,160
little bit back and forth.
So we got a lot of stuff from

1575
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,520
Larry.
I, I, I don't know if we've

1576
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,960
changed any of our keys up, but
y'all, we got to jump into what

1577
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:33,600
our hokey keys are for this week
and I'm going to lead it off

1578
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,160
with us.
Jonathan, Tally, tally, what is

1579
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,280
going to be the hokey keys for
taking the dub this week?

1580
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,800
Oh yeah, It was going to be the
same for me no matter what.

1581
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,840
But definitely, you know,
reiterated what Larry was

1582
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:45,960
talking about.
Like we have to let Karen be

1583
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:48,480
Karen.
He's not a drop back passer.

1584
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:52,080
He's not anybody else besides
Karen.

1585
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,760
The big bruising runs that he
has, he had one, you know, at

1586
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,880
Rutgers last year and he has had
one against ODU.

1587
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:00,840
They got to let him get outside
the pocket.

1588
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:02,200
They got to let him run the
ball.

1589
01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:05,280
They got to let him get some
contact that's going to open up

1590
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:08,880
the pass game.
Because if we just try to drop

1591
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,680
back and pass the ball and drop
back and hand the ball off, it

1592
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:15,560
might not fare so well.
So let Karen be Karen is my keys

1593
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,760
to success.
Sheldon, what about you?

1594
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:22,480
Man, what is your hokey?
Keys This week I went with

1595
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:23,880
establishing the run to set up
the.

1596
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,640
Pass I think Tech is a team that
has to run the ball well to be

1597
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,200
effective in passing game.
Like Bryant, like we've been

1598
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:33,320
saying, we want drones to to
roll out, you know, to use RPO

1599
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,720
effectively.
And only way you can do that is

1600
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,320
if there's a threat of, you
know, a credible threat of run

1601
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:39,920
game.
So if they get the run and

1602
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:42,280
going, I think that's going to
make things a lot easier on

1603
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,680
drones and hopefully they can
put some points on the board.

1604
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,080
All righty, Mr. Bron Siegler.
What is your Hokie key this

1605
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,280
week?
Yeah, for me, it's it's I'm

1606
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,600
flipping it over to the.
Defensive side, yeah, I think

1607
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,280
the offense might take care of
itself against this Rutgers

1608
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:00,760
defense.
I'm worried about what they're

1609
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:03,360
going to do with the running
game, shortening the game,

1610
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,920
staying on the field, not
letting our defense get off the

1611
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,440
field.
So for me, the big thing is no

1612
01:23:07,440 --> 01:23:10,720
long runs and be able to get off
the field on 3rd down.

1613
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:14,120
If we can do that, I feel pretty
confident about coming out of

1614
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,920
this one with AW.
All righty, I'm going to kind of

1615
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,560
get mine in here and.
It goes back to how we've been

1616
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,880
playing this year.
First quarter we have outscored

1617
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,200
our opponents 21 to three,
that's plus 18.

1618
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:29,720
Quarter three, we've outscored
our opponents 30 to 10, that's a

1619
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:34,560
+ 20.
Quarter four, 3814 + 24.

1620
01:23:35,440 --> 01:23:39,360
The second quarter is the
undoing of this team this year

1621
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:46,360
and we've been outscored in
three games, 31 to 3:00 that is

1622
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,400
minus. 28 that is.
An insane number.

1623
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,360
And I go look back last year
playing Rutgers, they outscored

1624
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,960
us in the second quarter
fourteen to three.

1625
01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,320
I think it's going to come down
to what we do in the second

1626
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,480
quarter.
Our coaches have a propensity

1627
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:03,120
for having great halftime
adjustments where we get people

1628
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,880
in the rhythm.
I am very glad that we got off

1629
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:10,400
of that hot start off at of OU
because it proves to me that we

1630
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,040
can move the ball early second
quarter.

1631
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:17,240
If we come out even in the
second quarter, I don't care for

1632
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:20,760
77101033 nil, NIL.
We are going to win this game

1633
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,400
and that.
Leads us right.

1634
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:29,840
Into our hokey predictions and
I'm going to go first just

1635
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:34,120
because I want to go 1st and
what I got, what I look.

1636
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,160
At is.
When they played us last year up

1637
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:38,760
in Piscataway, it is Piscataway
NJ.

1638
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:44,160
That was Karen Drones first
start as a college quarterback

1639
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:50,960
first start.
They had Grant Lemstadt, who was

1640
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:52,880
a.
Running quarterback who we have

1641
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:56,080
known forever as a Virginia Tech
Hokie fan, what is our

1642
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:57,440
kryptonite?
If you have a running

1643
01:24:57,440 --> 01:24:58,880
quarterback, it's going to kill
us.

1644
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,320
Larry already said it.
He couldn't pass last year at

1645
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,120
all.
That was fine last year.

1646
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,320
We had one of the best pass
defenses in the country last

1647
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:10,560
year regardless.
So you take away the wheels, you

1648
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,320
put a guy back there who can do
design runs for, but he can't

1649
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,000
scramble.
You can't run a read option.

1650
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,080
I think we're going to flip it.
I think we're going to score a

1651
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:22,240
couple more points in them.
Give me Hokies 28.

1652
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,760
You went on mute again bud.
You going?

1653
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:35,960
I'll take this next one here.
I I'm in the similar boat with

1654
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,640
Curtis here.
I I don't think it's going to

1655
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:42,040
quite be a the full boat.
Eight points there, but I think

1656
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:44,600
the Hokies are going to do
enough on offense and just

1657
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,720
enough on defense.
It's going to come down to the

1658
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,880
wire though.
But give me the Hokies 27,

1659
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:55,320
Rutgers 23, Sheldon Moss.
I'm going with a pretty similar

1660
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,120
score to Curse here.
I've got the Hokies 2720

1661
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,280
winning.
I feel like this team responds

1662
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,080
when the chips are down and
people are doubting them.

1663
01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:04,720
So I think they'll come out
pretty motivated and they're

1664
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,520
going to get a close win at
home.

1665
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:11,360
When Edwin says that they can't
do it, the chips.

1666
01:26:11,440 --> 01:26:13,520
I like when Sheldon.
Says the chips.

1667
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,040
Cuz I like to go to the casino
and play roulette and I like to

1668
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,000
have all the chips.
My chips are down.

1669
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,320
I am doubting I got Rutgers
winning this game.

1670
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,480
I think it's going to be a close
game.

1671
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,760
I'm just going off of off of
history for the most part.

1672
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:34,160
Not so much with Rutgers, just
with what we've done in the past

1673
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:38,560
as well as since prize been here
some crazy stat was out.

1674
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:43,960
We haven't won a non conference
game and however many days

1675
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:49,680
pretty much since 2017 and it
just brought up all the fields

1676
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,080
of me being in the stadium.
We're playing Purdue last year

1677
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,840
and everything that can go wrong
goes wrong.

1678
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,840
The hurricane comes through, we
are out in the rain for six

1679
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:03,200
hours and hiding and don't know
if it's going to be and then we

1680
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,640
go into the game and we lose a
heartbreaker.

1681
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,400
Then we go to Nashville and we
lose another heartbreaker.

1682
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:09,960
I just think it's going to be a
close game.

1683
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:15,600
Rutgers takes it 2417.
I'm praying that I'm wrong, but

1684
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:19,200
that's my prediction as of now.
We got to go with what you feel,

1685
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:21,560
man, so.
We're going to be flipping it

1686
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,840
over here to big screeners in
just a second, but y'all out

1687
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:27,760
there who are watching, it's
quite a few of y'all tonight.

1688
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,160
Throw your prediction, what you
think the scores are going to be

1689
01:27:30,440 --> 01:27:35,200
for the Hokies game.
So again, you got me, Brian and

1690
01:27:35,200 --> 01:27:40,400
Shelton, leaning Hokies, tally
leaning Rutgers, all of us

1691
01:27:40,440 --> 01:27:45,320
within at least one score.
So we don't get you, liquor get

1692
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:46,800
you.
Everybody's flirting in the 20s

1693
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,640
too there, no?
Nobody's predicting a high

1694
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,080
scoring affair here.
I don't we'll see that, but they

1695
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,360
think the under I think.
Whatever the under is, I think

1696
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:54,440
it.
Is it what, 51?

1697
01:27:54,440 --> 01:27:57,880
The last time I looked I can
pull that up I.

1698
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,520
Got it right here on the phone.
I think I do if y'all.

1699
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,000
Can get to it quicker.
Somebody scream it.

1700
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:07,560
Out before me 44 1/2 Oh, it's
went down, so it's went down.

1701
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,000
Significantly, just like the
line.

1702
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:12,080
Started 4 1/2.
Now it's down, But you know,

1703
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,280
we're going to see.
We're going to see.

1704
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,360
I think this is a big make and
break game for the Hokies in

1705
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,480
what we can do this season.
So let's flip to it and let's

1706
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:23,280
get the big screeners.
Let's talk about some other

1707
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:26,480
games we might be laying a
little action on and some games

1708
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:28,720
we'll definitely be keeping an
eye on throughout the day on

1709
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,400
Saturday.
Brian Siegler, as always, you

1710
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,240
lead this segment.
Sir, where we going?

1711
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:39,240
I went to Oklahoma, baby.
Tennessee, Oklahoma, the

1712
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:42,640
Tennessee is favored by 7 1/2
here.

1713
01:28:44,120 --> 01:28:45,600
I don't think it's going to be
that close.

1714
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:49,000
I think Tennessee is going to go
out there and and do a little

1715
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:50,840
number.
So give me the the volunteers in

1716
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:54,840
this one, all right?
I'm exactly the opposite.

1717
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,880
Of you on this.
One, give me Oklahoma home dog

1718
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:01,160
getting 7 1/2 points because I
looked at Tennessee.

1719
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:05,160
Anytime they say any formidable
offense last year, they couldn't

1720
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,200
get above 20 points.
I trust Brent Venables.

1721
01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:11,160
I don't know if Oklahoma will
win this game or not, but I do

1722
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:13,440
not see Tennessee blowing the
doors out of them.

1723
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:16,120
I see this being a close enough
game that I'll take the home dog

1724
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:20,400
at 7 1/2.
Sheldon so I saw.

1725
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,920
I saw stat.
Earlier this week.

1726
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,720
That this is the first time
Oklahoma is a underdog by four

1727
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:30,160
more points at home since 1998.
I think they're going to feel a

1728
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:32,120
little bit disrespected by it
and they're going to come out

1729
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:35,480
and do just enough to cover
tally tally.

1730
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:37,920
I'll copy Shelton.
And I said.

1731
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:43,400
Oklahoma.
There we go, Miranda dropped in.

1732
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:44,720
Tennessee.
And.

1733
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:49,600
The man with the guitar is
taking Tennessee as well.

1734
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:54,160
Oh, before we get too far, I
dropped it in the in the text

1735
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:55,400
there.
You want to give the rundown,

1736
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,400
Curtis, of what we did last
week, Week 3.

1737
01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:03,960
Looks as follows.
Brian five and one, Curtis five

1738
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,280
and one, Tally and Shelton two
and four, Miranda three and

1739
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:12,040
three, and our gambling guitar
man four and two season records.

1740
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:20,040
Everybody with the exception of
Miranda is above 500, so we got

1741
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,320
to get Miranda out of them.
Buffalo Wild Wings.

1742
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:25,920
You can't.
You can't.

1743
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,360
You can't.
You can't go out, get out of.

1744
01:30:27,440 --> 01:30:29,160
There, make your bet.
So there you.

1745
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,800
Go That's where we stand.
Right now, if you had bet with

1746
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,640
any of us, if you're crazy
enough to do that, most of us

1747
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,640
would have made you a little bit
of money, a little bit, very

1748
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:39,560
little bit.
You walk around with an.

1749
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,480
Extra 12 bucks you got, you got
enough to put back in next week.

1750
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,520
In other news In other news.
Everybody knows I love orange.

1751
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,200
Not Tennessee orange.
That's the worst color orange

1752
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:50,880
that ever was made.
When?

1753
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:52,400
Never wear that orange is
hideous.

1754
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:56,000
Go ahead, Curtis.
All right, I am going.

1755
01:30:56,120 --> 01:30:59,120
To take a look at the Michigan
State Boston College game, it's

1756
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:03,320
going to be up in Chestnut Hill.
Believe it or not y'all we are

1757
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,680
not the red bandana game.
No ACC opponent is the red

1758
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,760
bandana game.
I could not find it.

1759
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:13,880
I actually have a red bandana.
My neighbor used to be the tech

1760
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,160
sideline guy.
He got 1 so I could explain to

1761
01:31:16,160 --> 01:31:18,640
the boys effectively.
You know what that guy did back

1762
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:21,880
on 9/11 23 years ago?
Could not find it.

1763
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:24,280
They probably got it chucked in
their room somewhere and I can't

1764
01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:27,040
find it.
But BC coming off damn near

1765
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:29,880
pulling off the upset in
Columbia last week, they only

1766
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:32,840
lost by 6.
We made some money off that.

1767
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,840
This week they're laying 6 1/2
to Michigan State and Brian.

1768
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:40,040
What do you think?
You know what I'm going to keep?

1769
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,480
Riding with the eagles, they're.
Doing me good so far.

1770
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:45,800
I'm not going to change it up.
I'm with you.

1771
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,720
Laying 6 1/2 to Michigan.
State Michigan State to me under

1772
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,560
Jonathan Smith and new regime up
there probably not quite got

1773
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,160
where he wants it yet.
So I'll take BC as well.

1774
01:31:57,280 --> 01:31:59,360
I'm a Brian the.
Eagles have.

1775
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:02,000
Not let me down this year.
It will not happen this week.

1776
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:04,760
I like the job Bob is doing.
Give me Boston College.

1777
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:08,440
I got to.
Listen to all the Alabama fans.

1778
01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:10,080
And tell me how much they hate
Bob.

1779
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:13,480
So I said I've been betting
against him every day, every

1780
01:32:13,480 --> 01:32:15,280
game.
So I start.

1781
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:16,840
Why?
You know you got to hit at least

1782
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:19,000
once, right?
I got to stay consistent with

1783
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,160
losing.
So I went with Michigan State,

1784
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,760
right?
All righty.

1785
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,960
Tally going Michigan.
State and Miranda and Jason

1786
01:32:27,960 --> 01:32:30,200
always so coming along with us
on the BC.

1787
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,640
Hey Tally, you you riding solo
with the Spartans?

1788
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:36,400
There, man, Ryan, solo man.
All right, Sheldon, where are we

1789
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,920
going?
We are going to Morgantown West.

1790
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,760
Virginia, I Pike this game
because it looks like a pretty

1791
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:46,240
intriguing match up.
Obviously Kansas is off to a

1792
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:47,600
slow start.
I think they've been getting a

1793
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:50,400
little bit unlucky.
It was a close spread, 2 1/2.

1794
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:52,960
So with that being said, I will
take Kansas.

1795
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,640
I think they bounced back from a
really tough loss against UNLV

1796
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:59,120
last week and they get the win
in Morgantown.

1797
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,560
I'm I'm actually going to go the
other direction.

1798
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,480
Here to use Sheldon, I'm taking
Kansas.

1799
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:13,400
I think they get on the winning
track here.

1800
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,160
I think this is going to be an
outright win for for The

1801
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:19,000
Jayhawks.
Yeah, same here.

1802
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:20,240
I'm.
With Kansas as well, I think.

1803
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:23,520
Kansas bounces back.
We know Shelton's with.

1804
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:24,920
Kansas tally?
What about?

1805
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,360
You man, I'm going to have to go
with W.

1806
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,680
VUI mean I'm probably going to
get a little bit from the sister

1807
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,920
before the game, get them hyped
up, you know, maybe get a little

1808
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,280
nipple from Grand Mama and have
a good game.

1809
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,400
All righty.
And Miranda and Jason.

1810
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:45,560
Little opposite.
Miranda, Kansas, Jason.

1811
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,240
West Virginia.
Tally, where are you going this

1812
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,280
week, man?
I am.

1813
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:57,080
Going to Utah and O OK State,
pretty intriguing game.

1814
01:33:57,680 --> 01:33:59,640
I don't know man, I just like to
watch Utah play.

1815
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:03,320
They seem pretty physical year
in and year out, so I love to

1816
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,480
watch Utah play.
It's always fun to watch those

1817
01:34:05,480 --> 01:34:08,960
games.
I am going Utah in this game

1818
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,600
just for what I said.
I just like to watch them play.

1819
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:13,640
I like the style of football
that they play.

1820
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:17,800
I'm right there with Tally.
I'm taking the.

1821
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:22,440
The Utes here as well.
I think they they've played very

1822
01:34:22,440 --> 01:34:25,400
well so far to start the season
in in my opinion, I think

1823
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,440
they're going to go in there and
probably win by about a

1824
01:34:28,440 --> 01:34:33,280
touchdown in Oklahoma State yeah
I'm I'm with y'all too.

1825
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:34,880
I.
Think at physical style, we saw

1826
01:34:35,480 --> 01:34:40,160
Arkansas do it with a, with a,
to me, a lesser cohesive team.

1827
01:34:41,600 --> 01:34:43,520
I think Utah goes in there and
they do win.

1828
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,840
I'll take the three points.
Utah's one of my.

1829
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:49,680
Favorite non virgin anti team in
the country?

1830
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:51,640
I love the way they play, I love
how physical they are.

1831
01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,240
But their quarterback Cam Rising
was out last week.

1832
01:34:54,240 --> 01:34:56,920
He is expected to play this
weekend, but we don't know if

1833
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,600
he's exactly 100% and he might
be a little bit rusty.

1834
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:01,920
So for that reason, being on the
road, I'm going to take OK

1835
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:06,000
State.
Miranda's riding with you,

1836
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,880
Sheldon, and.
Jason is jumping on board with

1837
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:14,040
me.
Tally and Curtis Righty last.

1838
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,320
One here before we get to the
music man, we got Georgia Tech

1839
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:21,400
traveling to Louisville.
This is a massive line.

1840
01:35:21,480 --> 01:35:24,120
I mean massive line.
And I'm I'm trying to figure out

1841
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:27,880
smells stinky.
Louisville is laying 10 points

1842
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:31,840
to Georgia Tech, who I mean has
played solid all year.

1843
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:36,520
So, Brian, what do you think?
Yeah, this this is a weird.

1844
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:39,520
Line I don't know if Vegas knows
something that I don't but I

1845
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,600
think this is going to be a
close game wire to wire.

1846
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,600
So give me Georgia Tech in this
one.

1847
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:46,240
I swear to God if Haynes King is
hurt and.

1848
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,280
We don't find out about it until
the 1st snap.

1849
01:35:48,440 --> 01:35:50,560
I am going and saying give me my
money back.

1850
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:54,800
That's bullshit.
Give me Georgia Tech, Give me

1851
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:59,400
the 10.
Yes, I'm taking Georgia Tech as

1852
01:35:59,400 --> 01:35:59,840
well.
I.

1853
01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:01,360
Just think it's too big of a
line.

1854
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:04,680
I I respect Louisville, but I
think Georgia Tech will do just

1855
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:09,080
enough to cover same I.
Feel like that line?

1856
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,800
Is too big.
If anything we're going to be

1857
01:36:11,800 --> 01:36:14,200
looking at about a three-point
game, maybe 7.

1858
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:20,400
Give me Georgia Tech, Miranda.
Is riding with Georgia.

1859
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:24,760
Tech as well, and our music man.
Is coming.

1860
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:30,120
In hot on Louisville, laying the
10 points.

1861
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:36,240
So that gets us to it, man.
Our our music man is back.

1862
01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,440
He's picked a big one this week.
We got the USC Trojans at

1863
01:36:40,440 --> 01:36:43,880
Michigan.
So I'm going to let him tell you

1864
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:59,840
what he thinks about this one.
California those.

1865
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,640
Have a party California those.
Have.

1866
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:13,960
A party in the city say come.
To.

1867
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:21,520
Keep it rocking nowhere to keep
it rocking California.

1868
01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:33,160
In the city.
In the city.

1869
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:48,400
Welcome to another edition of
Guitar Licks.

1870
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:51,360
And gambling picks.
I'm Jason Long, riding a hot

1871
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:53,000
streak right now, so I'm going
to keep it short.

1872
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,360
USC travels to Michigan on
Saturday.

1873
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:58,920
They're laying 6 1/2 points.
I think USC is going to win by

1874
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:00,800
at least a touchdown.
So I'm going to go ahead and

1875
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,240
take USC minus 6 1/2 versus
Michigan.

1876
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:07,040
You don't know why Coast,
California?

1877
01:38:39,790 --> 01:38:46,590
See you next week.
And there it is again, he said,

1878
01:38:46,590 --> 01:38:49,800
laying 6.
And a half there taking the

1879
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:53,480
Trojans and you know what?
I'm riding right along with

1880
01:38:53,480 --> 01:38:56,040
that.
Give me USC in this one.

1881
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,560
Curtis, what you got?
I'm with you on it.

1882
01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:01,760
I've seen.
USC play a couple Times Now and

1883
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:06,480
then, especially after seeing
what LSU did down South Carolina

1884
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,640
put up a bunch of points and I
know first game and everything

1885
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:13,800
but I know Alex awards you
starting former Hokie committee

1886
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:18,000
just I I can't see Michigan
slowing them down enough even in

1887
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:23,560
the big house to to to to not
lay 6 1/2 points on this game.

1888
01:39:26,480 --> 01:39:28,440
I'm taking Michigan on a hunch.
I just.

1889
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:30,560
I think, I think they're playing
at home.

1890
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,240
They'll be they'll be motivated.
You know, they they had a pretty

1891
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:35,440
crappy loss against Texas.
So I like teams.

1892
01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:37,520
Sometimes it bounce back when,
like I said, the trips are down

1893
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:38,560
and I think they're going to
respond.

1894
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:43,960
Man, I was going to go UFC.
Anyway, but after he and Jason

1895
01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:47,200
come in and sang Californian
turning into a country's

1896
01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:51,800
California love and turning into
a country song man, he did did

1897
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:54,640
Roger Troutman a, a, a a great
honor.

1898
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:58,000
So I got to go UFC just because
of what Jason did.

1899
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:02,880
And obviously Miranda, she is
also.

1900
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:05,640
Riding with this Jason obviously
taking your.

1901
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:09,480
Yeah, when, when, when he sent
us a message and he's like, I

1902
01:40:09,480 --> 01:40:12,200
got what I'm going to do.
We're like, there's so many

1903
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:13,960
songs about California, what we
could do.

1904
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,080
That was the entire Red Heart
Hot Chili.

1905
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,040
Peppers you.
Know.

1906
01:40:19,320 --> 01:40:21,440
Yeah, that's not what I was
expecting.

1907
01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:25,000
When he started going, I'm like
perfect curveball.

1908
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:27,360
Great, great, great.
All righty, so throw them.

1909
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:31,240
All up there.
There you go, what it looks

1910
01:40:31,240 --> 01:40:33,240
like.
Who got it best?

1911
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:36,080
Who got it wrong?
Me and Curtis are pretty close

1912
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:38,080
here with our picks top to
bottom.

1913
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,280
Curtis and Brian follow each
other they.

1914
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:42,960
Just don't want to they have a
bet with each other.

1915
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:44,240
Neither one of them wants to
lose.

1916
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:48,080
So hey, I'm gonna start getting
on my up on the on the 1st pick

1917
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,360
now I win Tennessee.
I'm, I'm not, I'm not riding

1918
01:40:50,720 --> 01:40:53,120
straight across, man.
Well, I'm trying to look here.

1919
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:55,440
Yeah, well, you're.
About the only one that I'm

1920
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:57,880
close with.
So yeah, all right, real quick,

1921
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:01,080
bunch of y'all responded.
I appreciate out here.

1922
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:04,440
So how we feeling about this
week our buddy Andretti back

1923
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:07,880
2416.
Hey, he's got the faith back

1924
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:10,160
Andretti got.
Faith also to say man.

1925
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,880
Hey, we got some good stuff
going on, man.

1926
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:20,800
All right, Hashim. 3620 Oh,
seeing a blowout saying Hokey's

1927
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:27,200
Rock. 3524 I'd I'd love 3524 or
3620.

1928
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:31,320
That means I can relax about the
last 20 minutes of the game.

1929
01:41:32,440 --> 01:41:37,720
Buddy Thomas always out here
Tookie by 4 and we.

1930
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:40,360
Do got one person?
Where was it?

1931
01:41:40,360 --> 01:41:45,680
Where was it?
Jeff Jeff's with Ally.

1932
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:48,800
And.
Just like you.

1933
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:53,240
Hope you're wrong on that.
So boom, anything coming up?

1934
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:58,480
I didn't Mr. I got to give a.
Shit, man, yeah, I got to give

1935
01:41:58,480 --> 01:42:00,560
a.
Shout out to our our buddy Lavar

1936
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:04,960
he was at the game this past
week sent me some cool videos

1937
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:09,080
before the game.
Lavar thank you for always

1938
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:15,080
joining in man Loyal loyal you
know listener always is engaged

1939
01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:16,360
with us.
Like I said send me some cool

1940
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:19,680
videos before the game.
Hey man, if any of y'all go to

1941
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:23,480
the games, if y'all are posted
and y'all got some some cool

1942
01:42:23,480 --> 01:42:26,560
shots man send them to us.
I'll find a way to get Brian,

1943
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:28,960
get Brian to get him on here one
day soon.

1944
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:32,200
But that was that was pretty
awesome to see some pre game

1945
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:35,160
warm up stuff that Levar sent.
So just wanted to give Levar

1946
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:38,920
shout out for that.
I appreciate you big time.

1947
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:42,160
Yeah, Lavar has been riding.
With us for now pretty much

1948
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:43,680
since we started going live on
here.

1949
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:49,560
So big, big shout out to him for
following along and happy you

1950
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,320
got to a game, happy you got.
To a game this year, man.

1951
01:42:52,640 --> 01:42:56,400
Hey, you got to see his his
classmates out there.

1952
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:58,120
Getting worked a little bit,
true.

1953
01:42:58,120 --> 01:42:59,640
That's what you got to see.
It's true all.

1954
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:04,800
Right, anything else breaking
boys as we get to the 11:00 hour

1955
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,760
here on the East Coast?
No, just be sure to.

1956
01:43:08,480 --> 01:43:10,400
Check my.
Article on the key plate

1957
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,360
tomorrow.
How's that going out Talking

1958
01:43:12,360 --> 01:43:13,800
about Kyron Jones, the passing
game.

1959
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:17,640
So hopefully some some very good
informative stuff on the Hokie's

1960
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:21,000
passing game tomorrow, key play
we're going to have.

1961
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:23,640
Miranda.
Wilhelm's recap and preview

1962
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:25,520
dropping tomorrow along with our
show.

1963
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,880
So, found your corner vt.com.
Head there.

1964
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:32,360
Check that out, go to the key
play, check out Shelton's work,

1965
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:34,880
everybody doing big things and
fun things.

1966
01:43:34,880 --> 01:43:39,920
So we appreciate the support and
and all the love that y'all SWVA

1967
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:41,240
shop.
I need some orange.

1968
01:43:41,240 --> 01:43:45,760
Hats, I know y'all.
Are here get me some orange.

1969
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:47,800
Hats man, let me know how much
there is.

1970
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,160
I'm running out.
I need some new ones.

1971
01:43:50,280 --> 01:43:52,200
He needs new.
By the way, looks like Levar

1972
01:43:52,200 --> 01:43:54,080
made the student section.
Mad good, Levar.

1973
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:57,560
I'm glad you made them mad.
And with that, that wraps up

1974
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,240
this episode of the Boundary
Corner Podcast, brought to you

1975
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:02,240
by Count Stanley Pharmacy in
Blacksburg.

1976
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:04,200
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Siegler.

1977
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Jonathan Talley.
I'm Sean Moss.

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We are part of the college.
Huddle Network Our.

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Website is at
boundarycornerbt.com.

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Listen to all of our episodes.
Check out the little merchandise

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shop.
Don't forget to follow us on

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Twitter, Facebook, Instagram,
YouTube accounts, all your

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favorite podcast sources.
Jason who just played the most

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country found edition of
California love you ever heard

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making Roger Troutman proud per
tally.

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Check him out at
jasonlawmusic.com where you can

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link up to all of his music,
Apple, Spotify, his YouTube and

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Facebook pages.
Check him out on Instagram too

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because he is dropping the the
gambling links usually on

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Saturday mornings for one last
time to get that out there.

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Also check out where he'll have
his live events.

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He always keeps that updated.
We appreciate you as always for

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listening where, the wherever
and however you may listen to

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us.
And as always, let's go.

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The.

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