We Got One

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner podcast, a part of the

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College Huddle Network along my
partners, Brian Siegler,

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Jonathan Talley and Shelton
Moss.

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I am Curtis Wilson and as
always, we are brought to you by

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Doctor Jeremy Counts down at the
Counts Family pharmacy, your

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friendly neighborhood pharmacy
located at three O 1 S Main St.

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in Blacksburg.
Boys, the band is all back

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together one last time for a
little while, potentially

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because Shelton's about to get
into hell season for his.

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It's busy season.
Busy season, hell season,

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however you want to say it.
But it's good we got one last

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episode before he takes off.
Maybe he'll sneak in from time

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to time.
And luckily before he left, we

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got one.
We got one, man.

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We got one.
It only took seven weeks, but we

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got one. 47 days that it that
the official count. 47 days. 46

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days until we got one, so
obviously we'll be talking about

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the DC hiring.
Got a few other things to hit on

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tonight.
Talk a little bit about the

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schedule, but how's everybody
been?

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How have you been?
We hadn't talked to you since

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before Christmas.
How's everything been in your

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life?
It's been good, man.

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I've just, you know, enjoyed my
break and, you know, kind of

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getting back into the work right
now.

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So like I said, I'll be busy
pretty soon.

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But yeah, just been, you know, I
wasn't really super plugged into

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the, to the DC, you know,
coordinator search.

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I just, you know, it got to a
point where I was like, you know

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what, whoever they hire, they're
going to hire.

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I'm not going to sit around, you
know, twiddle my thumbs and read

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every single message board rants
about how this, you know, the

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entire administration's a
failure and we need to fire the

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entire staff and it's a lame
duck staff and all that stuff.

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So I think they end up with a
pretty solid hire as we'll

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discuss hopefully in this
podcast.

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You want to know who did sit
around and look at every message

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board rant?
Me.

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You know who did put in a
thumbs?

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Me like a dummy.
Been mad as hell.

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Tally was bought in.
Trying to figure it out, trying

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to read crumbs.
It was a whole different cookie.

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I'm just saying.
Tally figured at some point he

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was pot committed.
He might as well stick with it.

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To the end, it's.
Kind of, it's kind of like when

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you, it's kind of like when you
watch like a bad movie series.

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I go back to like Twilight.
I don't know if y'all ever watch

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Twilight.
Like I watched the first one and

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I felt like I could not turn
away, you know what I'm saying?

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Not in a good way.
It was like this is so bad.

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Was it the shiny skin?
It was just a whole bunch of

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stupid shit, you know what I'm
saying?

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Like the one guy's a werewolf
and then the other guy's a

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vampire, and he's watching his
girlfriend lay with this guy to

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keep her warm.
I don't know man, there was a

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lot going on.
Hey, we just need Tally to like,

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give quick summaries of movies,
man.

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Just like that's an entire
series unto itself.

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Yeah, I watch a whole bunch of
stupid movies, man.

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I'm telling you, I watch a lot
of stupid movies.

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But one movie that is not stupid
that I did watch again last

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night.
It's been a thieves great movie.

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I had to refresh myself on Been
a Thief so I can go or get ready

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to watch #2 that they just came
out with.

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So I hope they do that justice.
That's what I'm interested in.

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Good deal.
Good deal, Brian.

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Everything been good with you
man?

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Busy, good rocking and rolling,
man.

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It's a I, I was getting a little
frustrated with the process of

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the, of the DC higher.
I think that was probably my

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biggest complaint of the whole
thing was feeling like we did.

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We didn't get a whole lot of
information throughout the

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process.
And then when we finally got

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some leaks there at the end,
they were all bullshit.

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So I think that kind of left a
bad taste in, in everybody's

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mouths and kind of set us up
for, you know, being a little

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bit underwhelmed initially until
we learn more.

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And yeah, the the the more
digging I've done, the the

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better I feel about this guy.
Do we have two Matty BS in the

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chat or is it the same Matty B
on a different platform?

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Whoa, whoa, hang on, hang on.
I think it's same Matty B on a

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different platform, but I cannot
confirm.

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I think it's the same if that's
Matty B, is it the same Matty B

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this that's got, but it's a
different Matty?

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Yeah, it's got to be two.
That's the same Matty.

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That's the same Maddie.
It's.

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The same Maddie, same Maddie B.
Different platform.

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Maddie, come to Atlanta.
Come to Atlanta.

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Come to Atlanta, he's going to
both of them.

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He's going to.
Both of them eat wings.

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I'm.
Telling them strip club.

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Eat wings.
Nobody knows strip club now.

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I already told all the good
wings.

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That's where a lot of good wings
are.

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There's some other stuff in the
strip club that you might not

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want to get involved in.
Go listen to the Go listen to

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the the space the other day.
I don't want to get us cancelled

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on here, but I'm just saying.
Have you seen Hangover when they

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went to Bangkok in Atlanta?
Just letting y'all know.

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There you go.
How about this guys?

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There you go.
You watch you watch us on the

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big screen.
But let's let's get into it and

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and I know people are putting
out there who they thought it

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was.
We won't we won't talk about

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that later, but let's do
tonight.

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Let's talk about Sam Pronounce.
Let's see how I do this.

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Let's see how many times I screw
up Sam's name between now and

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the beginning of the season.
It's not going to be the first

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night.
Sam Cifkis nailed it.

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Nailed it.
The first one for one.

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One for one, it ain't going to
be like that for long.

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You all know that.
Let's get a little background on

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him first of where he comes
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First of all, the guy's 33 years
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That is insanely young.
So go to his background.

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He was a Division Three player
defensive back, got hurt at

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University of Wisconsin
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Then he became a student
assistant coach 2011 to 2013.

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So tells you right there,
student assistant, you ain't

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getting paid anything.
It's AD three level.

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Brian can tell you about the
conditions at the D3 level.

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Exactly, exactly.
Pomp and circumstance.

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Now, now, now, the way they do
D3 up there in in Wisconsin, a

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little bit different than
Virginia, a little.

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Bit but still D3 from there and
also during that time he

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actually got to do like an
internship at Air Force

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strengthening conditioning
coaching during the summer with

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the football team back in 2013
before he rejoined as a student

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assistant. 2014 he goes down to
FIU quality control coach. 2015

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he's Aga at Wisconsin.
Couple big points here.

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That was under Dave Aranda.
If anybody knows college

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football the last two decades,
Dave Aranda has been one of the

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better defensive coordinators in
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He was now the head coach of
Baylor 2015 and probably made

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the point today, and it's true.
2015 Wisconsin had the top

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defense in the country
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So say that what you will.
From there he goes down to D2,

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University of Wisconsin
Platteville as a defensive

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coordinator.
Shelton's going to share some

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info on that in a little while
here.

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From there, 2018 to 2020, he was
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which Shelton knows all about.
Shelton's got some other info on

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that as well.
He loves the soap on, so he's

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got info on him there.
He was a defensive coordinator.

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First of all, I'm going to say
something about this we can get

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into in a while.
This guy at the age of 26, 26th,

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was the defensive coordinator in
the FCS. 26 years old, OK,

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Doesn't matter what level it is.
That's insane.

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He was there from 2018 to 2020.
Defensive coordinator at

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Wofford.
We'll get the data on that.

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Went to the Vikings in 2021 to
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His first year there.
He was defensive quality control

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coach and then he became the
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We've got some info on that as
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And obviously, the last two
years he has begin making his

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hay over at the Arizona
Cardinals as the full time

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linebacker coach, as the head
man in that room.

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So let's talk about that
background.

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Shelton, you got a lot to
unload, so I want you to hold

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tight.
Brian Talley feelings on just

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reading through the stuff and
all that.

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Chris Lester, what's going on?
Tally, I'll let you lead you.

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You got a lot off your chest
last night.

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I'm going to let you kind of
piggyback on that.

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Man, I my, my problem is that I
ain't going to say problem, but

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I guess it's a good thing is
that I talk to people before I

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talk or listen to people before
I talk.

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So I get a little bit more
information.

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And on the surface, it
definitely pissed me off, mainly

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because of the process more than
the person because I don't I

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don't I knew nothing about him.
The main thing, and I think a

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lot of people were just like,
who, who is this?

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You know, it wasn't all he's
going to suck or this is a bad

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hire.
Some people's going to say that

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no matter who it was.
I do know if Bateman, if, if we

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would have went after Bateman
and got Bateman, that their fans

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were going to be happy.
And some of our fans had already

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set their set their tweets up to
to file off about how it was a

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horrible hire.
So, yeah, the process was a

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little bit clumbersome to me, in
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But I do feel like what you may
talk a little bit later.

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I just feel like certain things
what's going to happen, You

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know, this is prize for season
or going into his fourth season,

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by all accounts, he's probably
on the hot seat.

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He should be.
You got to win games in

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football.
I think he does a great job at

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some things.
Off season.

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He's been doing a great job
portal, He's been doing a great

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job.
He hadn't really messed with the

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portal.
We probably talked about a

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little later too, some of the
Senior Bowl stuff that we've

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seen, which has been been great
for us.

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But I just don't feel like it
was going to be the people that

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names were thrown out, weren't
going to attach their jobs to a

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coach that they don't know who's
going to be here.

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They don't know where this
program is going.

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You know what I'm saying?
Everybody, look, I think the

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world loves Virginia Tech as far
as they want us to be good.

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Because when Virginia teams like
Virginia Tech's good, college

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football's better.
But when you start throwing out

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those big defensive coordinator
names, it's like, come on, man.

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Are they really going to attach
their name to a coach that is

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pretty much unproven as a head
coach?

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And we don't know how long that
ship's going to sail.

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I don't know, man.
I don't, I don't think that

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that's what it was.
I just think that most people

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are going to use what they can
for a paycheck.

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You know, they're going to boost
their stock.

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I think Brian kind of talked
about, which you probably will

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talk a little bit more.
Agents do a great job as far as

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like with players as well, When
they hear something or if

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they're offered something,
they're going to let everybody

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know that, you know, no matter
how big or small it is, so they

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can up to the next level because
it's about money, you know, it's

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a job.
So it's about money, it's about

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a job.
And the main thing with me, once

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I sit back and talk to smarter
people like Shelton, I was like,

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well, let me look at this hire
and see what I think about it.

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But I did know that I was
frustrated with the process.

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Brian, how was you feeling?
Yeah, I mean, and we've talked

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about it a lot.
The process sucked.

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I mean, there's, there's really
no other way to to phrase it.

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And I think, I think the part of
the process is when it drags on

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that long and there's so little
information that's coming out,

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everybody creates their own
narrative.

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And then you hire someone that
was a part of nobody's

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narrative, right?
And so immediately you get a

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knee jerk of, like you said,
Tally, who the hell is this guy?

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I haven't heard anything about
him by default.

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That's probably not good, right?
That that's like the mindset

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immediately, right?
You go, you go right to that.

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If I haven't heard of him, it's
probably not a good hire.

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And then you start digging a
little bit and you look at the

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resume, you look at what you
know, what he's done, who he's

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done it with.
Way more play calling experience

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than Marv coming in.
And and you can say you know,

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UW, Platteville and Wofford all
you want to, but call and plays

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Apples to Apples is called and
plays you.

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Can do it or you can't.
It, it matters, it, it's

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experience.
I like it.

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And then to Tally's point as
well, every place this guy has

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went and left fans, staff,
everybody involved, you're

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hearing nothing but good things
and, and disappointment that

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he's moving on to, to greener
pastures.

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And that's, that's the kind of
guy you want a guy that left it

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better than he found it and the
guy that, you know, people are,

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are sad to see go.
So, you know, I think initially

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I was like, all right, y'all
know, I'm, I'm not a knee jerk

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guy.
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to

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gather my information.
But at first I was like, all

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right, I need to do some digging
here because I don't really know

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what to feel because I hadn't
really heard this guy's name

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floated out there.
I hadn't, I hadn't done enough

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research.
I hadn't seen enough

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information.
So upon digging some more, I

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feel a lot better.
That's not to say this isn't a

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risky hire, at least in terms of
some of the other names that

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were floated out there.
But I think it's it's a definite

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improvement from Marv.
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insanely high of what his
potential could be, especially

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we can get the right personnel
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or early next year.
All right before I give it to

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Sheldon, you got a lot to
unload.

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So I, I, I want to give you the
full floor in a second here and

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I want to give my quick take
because first of all, I was like

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tally me and tally got down the
rabbit hole.

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I would send messages and be
like Groundhogs day, like day

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43.
Y'all saw me tweeted the other

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day, day 43, it's Groundhogs
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We ain't got a defensive
coordinator yet.

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So there's I'm like a split
personality on this.

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I'm two faced from from Batman
because on one side I am not

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overly excited about like his
recruiting prowess because he

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really has not done it at the
highest of levels.

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And also college accolades.
No knock on the Socon.

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And yes, calling plays is
calling plays, but he has not

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been at the collegiate level.
And you can say what was it the

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NFL?
And it's like, well, it's a

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different ball game.
It's professionals who are

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getting paid.
They can get their asses cut at

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any time versus an NIL that you
have to pay the kid regardless.

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So I was like, that's not the
greatest piece.

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But then to Bronze point, I did
a little further research.

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Shout out Dan Pulse, Me and Dan
found some good stuff.

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Shout out our coach Robbie
Compton, who had an interview

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from this guy back in 2000.
I think it's either 19 or 20,

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talking about some philosophies
and stuff.

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But when I started listening to
that, started seeing those

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things, the first thing I can
say is this, and I said it a few

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minutes ago, the age at which he
got to the NFL is impressive.

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He got to the NFL at the age of
29.

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I don't care what you're doing.
Before he was 30 years old, he

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was in an NFL building.
By the time he was 31, he was a

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linebacker's coach.
That doesn't happen usually.

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If that it's nepotism, it's a
Brian Schottenheimer to Kyle

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Shanahan.
Papa's in the business.

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I'm going to get put in
regardless.

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You normally don't see guys in
their late 20s, early 30s being

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put in that position that quick.
Usually you got to work 10-15

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years, then you start getting
there.

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The other thing was the scheme
video.

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Y'all want to know what he's
doing?

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Go look at my Twitter account
today.

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I tweeted it out there 2 videos
about this scheme.

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This scheme excites me.
It truly does.

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It excites me not only from all
the stuff you can do with it,

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but I've told these three guys
sitting in here before we came

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on and I'll say it again, I
think a scheme like this favors

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how we can recruit.
How many times do we say, well,

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that guy's a tweener and that's
not great.

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There are some things with this
defense.

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A tweener will work better than
a full blown safety or a full

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blown defensive tackle.
You know what?

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We actually need a guy who's a
tweener to play big in when we

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play four eyes or something like
that.

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Or we need a guy who's got some
twitch, but he's got to be able

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to do things in linebacker Kane
Bronze, we'll get into that a

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little bit later.
That's what I'm excited about.

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South Shelton did his research
and he's got a bunch of stuff.

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So Shelton, I'm going to give
you the floor.

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Go for it.
Yeah, well, I was doing some

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digging on Mr. Sikis, looking at
some some events.

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That's obviously, you know, the,
the traditional metrics, I think

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kind of speak for themselves,
you know, total defense, 3rd

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down conversion percentage.
They were fourth in the country

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at Platteville in 2017.
And you know, yards for rush,

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all that stuff, you know, is
pretty good.

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But I got some SP plus rankings,
advance stats for his teams when

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he coached, before he coached
and after he coached at his

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respective schools.
So let's start with Platteville.

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So it came on as DC in 2016.
And just for the record, the

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conference that they play in the
WIAC is a really competitive

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conference.
Like it's probably close to the

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SEC of D3 at that level, just
with how good Wisconsin and you

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know, the the the Midwest is a
football at the at that level.

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So lots of really good teams.
But the year he took over the

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first year, they were 19th and
SU plus on defense at that

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level.
And then next year they're 22nd

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he leaves 2018 they dropped to
125th.

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So that's a 100 spot drop in a
single season directly after

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after he leaves.
So the the head coach at

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Platteville was a guy named Mike
Emmendorfer.

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So he retired in 20/21 after a
pretty successful stint.

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Overall record was about 500
but.

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That 2016, the 2016 team of
Platteville was the only one of

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two playoff appearances they've
ever had in school history.

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So he played a big part of that
apparently.

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You know, Emma Dorfer really
just couldn't get the defense

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right after that 2017 season,
and he eventually retired.

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They just weren't winning a ton
of games.

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So I think it speaks positively
about Seekhus that he was able

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to, you know, create a good
defense and a situation where

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they really hadn't been all that
good, you know, either after he

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was there or before he was
there.

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So that's a big plus for him and
he goes to Wofford.

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Now Wofford, as you guys know,
historically was, you know,

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pretty good under Mike Ayers,
who's sort of like the Mike

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Young of their football program
LED them to a bunch of

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conference championships.
He retired in 2017.

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So 2018 was the first year that
Esikas was ADC there.

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So taking over a a first year
staff, obviously some transition

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there.
You know, that was right as the

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portal was starting.
So they retained most of their

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teams of players and it was a
pretty good defense that he

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inherited.
But he's still able to keep it

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going for the most part. 13th in
FC plus first year, then 20th

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and then 31st in that spring
altered COVID season, which was,

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you know, obviously very
difficult on those FCS teams

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that had to play in that season
because they had lots of opt

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outs and, you know, some teams
decided to quit, but, you know,

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kind of a chaotic situation.
And then so 31st in 2020, next

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year he leaves.
They dropped to 108th.

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So that's a I'm trying to jump
out my head 7777 spot drop.

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Now, Wofford had some issues.
Granted, you know, their head

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coach did not turn out to be
good.

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They kind of screwed up the
offense and he got fired

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eventually.
So you know, how much of that

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was solely due to him?
I mean, you know, we don't know

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exactly, but we do know that he
was really good when he was

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there and they're really bad in
both spots after he left at both

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schools.
So I think that speaks to kind

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of his track record of, you
know, getting the most out of

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the talent that he has.
And a couple other things that I

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heard from some insider
connections I had.

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You know, I'm very well
connected in the the coaching

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scene these days.
Not really.

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I just have a buddy who who
worked on a on the staff of the

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Southern Conference rival when
Cekis was at Wofford and he was

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at that school.
And he said that the Vikings

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were really sad to lose him in
2022 when he left for the

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Cardinals.
And they even tried to increase

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his pay, which is a very rare
for an assistant linebacker's

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coach, does not happen often,
usually.

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And they fail.
They just, you know, they just

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let guys walk.
And he also reportedly had a

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much higher degree of
involvement with their defensive

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operations than you would
typically expect for a coach of

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that stature.
So on the whole, lots of really

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good things to think about
Esikas I, I think as I, the more

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I learn about this hire, I think
the more I, I feel good about

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it, I'd say.
Yeah, I think, I think Sheldon

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right there the the, the two
points you're making, especially

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it's the fall off right?
Because, you know, we we all see

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that from time to time.
Tally and Brian have played and

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seen it where good coach leaves
shit sometimes ain't right.

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It's just not right whatever
reason for whatever.

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So thanks for bringing that up,
Shelton, about how those teams

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effectively fell off a Cliff
defensively after he left.

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And to that Wofford point, I
mean, I know there was a lot of

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offensive issues teams, but I
mean, Conklin was still a

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defensive minded head coach.
So he he should have had a good

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grasp of, of where to go next.
And and and to see that steep of

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a fall off is is pretty pretty
staggering.

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Pretty, yeah.
And they and they, they really

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haven't recovered at all like I
was looking at.

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I mean, even if you look at some
of their numbers since 2021,

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they really have not fielded a
good defense since that year.

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So he was really kind of the
last, the last true good

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defensive guy they had. 100%.
All right, so we play this year,

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Curtis.
Wofford.

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Hopefully they still bad.
Hopefully still bad.

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Hopefully he holds them to a
goose egg on that Saturday in

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September.
All right, something I mentioned

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in my little rant there and and
it's probably been mentioned

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more than a few times and me and
Brian talked about a little bit

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this afternoon is a likely a
scheme change is going to come

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to Blacksburg.
I think everybody saw the

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writing on the wall with some of
the guys we got from the portal.

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But Brian, you, you, you looked
at that video, you read a few

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things here and there.
I know.

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And we're not going to get into
the details because I think what

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we're going to probably have to
do in a couple weeks here is

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look at our defensive roster and
say who's going to play where in

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this scheme?
But Brian, what can be expected

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or what do you expect him to
bring in and how we going to

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look different next year?
Yeah.

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I mean, you know, you're looking
at most of the schemes that he's

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ran have been multiple typically
odd fronts and there's going to

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be a lot of three high safety
looks.

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So what we're looking at is
going to be some version of a of

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a hybrid or multiple 3335
defense, but with the so-called

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Jack backer that for the most
part is going to act like a

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stand up defensive end in in
most of the schemes there.

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So it it allows us to to really
be flexible, especially in a

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00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,440
conference that has a lot of air
raid and a lot of big spread

446
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,440
concepts that we're playing
against it.

447
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,480
It lets us match up a whole lot
better.

448
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,200
I don't think we'll get RPO to
death like we did in in a

449
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,960
handful of games with with this
type of scheme.

450
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,440
It lets you get your best 11 on
your best 11 without really

451
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,640
having to do a ton of
substitutions.

452
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,720
It lets you do a whole lot of
different things from pressure

453
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:08,960
coverage, manipulating the box,
and it's really hard to prepare

454
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:13,560
for if you're an offense just
because of how much, how many

455
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,680
different alignments and
assignments they have to account

456
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,000
for.
So I'm excited and I think the

457
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,960
thing that stood out to me when
talking about this, like I, I

458
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,040
throw a lot of stuff out there
and this is going to be a lot.

459
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,320
But he emphasized simplifying
the concepts.

460
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:35,560
I'll still being hard to prepare
for and thinking of it from the

461
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:41,520
philosophy of if it's game prep
week and I've got my players

462
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:46,080
asking me about our scheme,
that's a problem.

463
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,680
If, if it's game week and
they're asking me about the

464
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,040
opponent's scheme, I've done the
right thing.

465
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,920
So I, I, I think that that's,
that's the mindset that he's

466
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,280
coming at.
This is is keeping it simple

467
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:02,120
while still being complex and
hard to prepare for.

468
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,240
Tally anything from Scheme.
Not really man.

469
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,440
I've just been kind of taken in.
I was kind of thinking where we

470
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,680
would add, you know, like the
the ginger freak when we got

471
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,520
him.
I can't, I don't know the kids

472
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:23,160
name, but just kind of him just
kind of thinking about what we

473
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,680
would add him on the defense
once we got him, seeing how

474
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,240
productive he was there to when
he's coming here.

475
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,160
But then when you start talking
about a scheme similar to what

476
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,120
Brian's talking about and
Sheldon's talking about like it

477
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:41,000
makes sense that you have a
linebacker defensive end hybrid,

478
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,480
because it's like, does that guy
going to put his hand in the

479
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:44,800
ground?
Is he going to stand up?

480
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,320
Well, you know, this scheme kind
of changes things a little bit.

481
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,680
So I don't know, I think it, I
think it, I think it's exciting,

482
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,800
at least you know what I'm
saying.

483
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,000
It gives us something to look
forward to because what we what

484
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,320
we seen last year was, I mean,
there was some excitement there,

485
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,760
but it wasn't exciting.
So another thing, yeah.

486
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:13,600
So another thing to to add on to
that too, is the strength and

487
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,800
conditioning piece.
You know, we've got a new

488
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,640
strength and conditioning coach
here at Ferguson.

489
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,920
So we've had, I think it's kind
of been split, man.

490
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,280
I just kind of read the room and
see what other people have to

491
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,200
say.
Like I said, I mean, y'all know

492
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,720
I'll talk.
I do like to listen as well.

493
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:33,080
And it's kind of been a split
reaction.

494
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,320
Some people say, you know, this
was a lazy hire.

495
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,240
I ain't going to call them
names, Pete.

496
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,320
Some people say that this is a
really good hire.

497
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,160
And, you know, from inside the
building, I feel like the

498
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:53,560
players have really respected
him and really taken to this.

499
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,120
And it's been some change, which
is a good thing.

500
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,000
You know, it's got to be
changing the way you prepare.

501
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,600
It's got to be changing the way
that you you go at game day.

502
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,880
If you continue losing by 1
score and the conditioning

503
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,640
piece, you know, if we're
getting to end the games, we

504
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,560
can't get people on the ground.
We got to figure out exactly

505
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,440
what we need to do strengthen
conditioning wise.

506
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,120
It's going to help that.
So I think that was a big hire.

507
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:28,840
I think that was a big piece
that needed to be filled, so I'm

508
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:33,520
interested to see how this is
going to all play out.

509
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,160
Hold on, wait a second.
Let me put this up real quick.

510
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,320
Just.
Saw I definitely read it all

511
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,640
wrong A.
Lot of people said that.

512
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,080
When I when I looked over there
I definitely read that wrong.

513
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,640
I thought that said better than
Batman.

514
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,760
That, that might be a bridge too
far, man.

515
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,800
That might.
You know, it's hard to be better

516
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,080
than Batman.
We'll we'll get back a little

517
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:00,800
bit more on the first thing I
want to get Shelton.

518
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,640
Shelton, what about you in this
scheme, you know, did you get a

519
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,080
chance to look data points or
anything like that with this

520
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,320
sort of, I don't know what you
call it.

521
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,480
It's it's just a unique scheme.
Yeah.

522
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,640
I mean, I don't really know
about the intricacies of the

523
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,640
scheme.
I do know they've typically been

524
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,760
a pretty good third down defense
under him and he talked about

525
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:22,360
that in the podcast that Brian
referenced.

526
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,000
They were, they were fourth in
the country and 3rd down defense

527
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,920
in 2017.
And, you know, generally pretty

528
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,720
good most seasons.
But I, I do think, you know,

529
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,240
kind of what Brian was saying
about the simplicity point, like

530
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,040
he talked about just, you know,
making it as black and white as

531
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,800
possible, Meaning, you know,
you're teaching players to kind

532
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,440
of read and react based on what
they see.

533
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,480
So, you know, if a run goes one
way, you react that way.

534
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,600
If it goes this way, you do that
just so that players aren't, you

535
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,760
know, kind of getting their,
their hands and their feet, you

536
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,320
know, and their, and their
brains tied up.

537
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:55,480
I think that's, that's really
good.

538
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,440
I, I really like kind of just
the stuff that you had to say

539
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,120
about, you know, the principles
that, you know, he, he operates

540
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,680
by and just making sure that
players focus on their

541
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,640
technique.
Because as we've seen, you know,

542
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,760
it's very easy for linebackers
to miss their assignments.

543
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,760
If you're not teaching the
concepts right, then players

544
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,040
don't understand what they're
supposed to do.

545
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,640
You got to teach the concepts
first, the fundamentals first,

546
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,520
and then everything kind of
filters down down through that.

547
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,120
So it seems to me like he's got,
he's got a really good grasp of

548
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,320
how to be an effective teacher.
Yeah, and something he said and

549
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,040
I, I listen to that podcast as
well.

550
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,960
And again, Brian mentioned it,
shout out Robbie, who is on here

551
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,160
tonight with us.
He, he, he found it for us and

552
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,480
sent it over so we could listen
to it.

553
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,200
The the one thing from that that
really caught my eye, it was 2

554
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,720
pieces.
The first one was the way he

555
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:45,440
talked about every week you have
ABCA hear the concept they do

556
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,800
the most.
This is the, this is what we're

557
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,720
going to focus on.
I think he said probably 60% of

558
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,640
the time, I don't know if y'all
remember, he's like, hey, this

559
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,680
is what they do the most, This
is what they run the most.

560
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,040
Here's concept B like this.
We are, we are going to know in

561
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,600
and out because effectively
Brian mentions it, Cali said it,

562
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,280
Shelton has said it.
That's their bread and butter.

563
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,360
They're going to run this.
It don't matter.

564
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,000
Give a damn who they play, what
looks we give, they're going to

565
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,120
run this.
Then he talks about B and he

566
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,120
says we're going to look at this
in like 30% of the time.

567
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,080
He's like, we know they run this
occasionally, but we can't be

568
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,760
heavily focused on that.
But he says we still have to pay

569
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,160
attention to it.
And then and he said something

570
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,040
like maybe 1015 * a game,
they'll run these plays.

571
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,960
The last one.
He says they might run these

572
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,680
plays one to three times a game.
And I love what he said.

573
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,480
He says this last little piece.
So he's building, right?

574
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,080
I mean, graining what they're
going to do a lot.

575
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,960
I'm going to layer the next one.
And he said the last one, these

576
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,320
ones where they won one to three
times, one they might pull out

577
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,920
on you the trick, play something
slick.

578
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,440
He's like, I look at this last,
this is a Friday night

579
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,120
walkthrough.
This is the last thing I look

580
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,880
at.
And when I think philosophy and

581
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,720
skiing, it's like a building
basically saying, if we know

582
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,800
these plays, we can stop this
and this.

583
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,200
And I mentioned this to you at
the last possible second.

584
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,800
This is ingrained.
This is ingrained.

585
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,120
If they try to pull one of these
slick plays, I just mentioned it

586
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,360
to you less than 12 hours ago,
it's probably going to be

587
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,320
something you remember versus
trying to tell you something to

588
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,200
remember from the bread and
butter, which should already be

589
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,760
in ways.
And I like the way this and it

590
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,800
talks about, it's a common way
that they break down the high

591
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,920
school.
It's simplifying things.

592
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,920
Let the guys play right,
simplify, make it easy.

593
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,440
Let them go out there and play.
Let's talk about this real

594
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,920
quick.
Go ahead.

595
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,920
Inside linebacker?
No.

596
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,880
Big nickel?
Probably.

597
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,640
Who you talking about?
Oh, this right here.

598
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,600
Yeah, yeah.
OK, you so you're talking about

599
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,040
some of that.
He's, he's essentially going to

600
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,240
be one of those, one of those
box safeties.

601
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:55,920
The, the, the, the big nickel
here.

602
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:03,840
In my opinion, I think you need
to, when you look at inside

603
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,200
linebackers, I think you're
going to be looking probably at

604
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:15,600
Woodson at this point, Bass
probably playing the other spot

605
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,920
there.
And then we, you know, we talked

606
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:25,560
about Jonkum probably sliding in
there at the Jack backer.

607
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:31,199
It's going to be interesting to
see where the other spots in the

608
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,960
in the safety room shake out.
But yeah, I, I peg Caleb Spencer

609
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,880
for being a big nickel in this
in this scheme.

610
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,600
Well, that, that's some me and
me and Brian.

611
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,440
Actually I, I talked to him at
lunchtime today.

612
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,320
We were both doing our power
walks and like, that's what

613
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,840
we've got to figure out.
And probably in a few weeks,

614
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,640
probably through conversation.
If we can get sheltered in here,

615
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,240
great.
If we can't, yes, probably not.

616
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,320
That's what happens.
I had to get some laundry done

617
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,600
today and unfortunately I didn't
throw them out of the picture.

618
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,360
My wife is going to be horrified
when she sees this.

619
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,040
So everybody remember if I'm in
trouble in the next few weeks,

620
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,200
but that's him.
Going to be on your ass

621
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:16,280
tomorrow.
She is.

622
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,840
She really is.
She's like 295 people saw your

623
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:25,520
laundry I'm going to be getting.
It more than that by the time

624
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,640
it's all said and done, a whole
lot more than that.

625
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,880
But but either way, that's what
we've got to look at as we get

626
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:39,520
into the next few weeks is once
he's in and once we also know

627
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,920
who the other coaches is because
it was said today and I'm going

628
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,320
to get to the other piece that
was said today as well.

629
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,680
We're not quite done yet.
We're not done with the shuffle.

630
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:56,800
I know y'all all heard it and
you know what I think is going

631
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,200
to happen and y'all come back.
I, I, I, I do believe that there

632
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,680
is going to be a new safety
coach.

633
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,760
I do not think Pearson Fraley
will leave the program, but

634
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,480
again, he was in a player
personnel role before they got

635
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,360
put in a pinch.
Pearson's a loyal guy.

636
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,440
But I think we're going to have
a safety coach hopefully by the

637
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,520
end of this week.
But, you know, maybe like 46

638
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,640
days from now, spring ball
starting.

639
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,080
I, I, I think that's the most
obvious move.

640
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,560
I think the other thing you got
to look at is.

641
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,240
Who's on the road?
Who's on the road, who's

642
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:33,880
actually coaching linebackers
day-to-day?

643
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,880
Because we know that it sounds
like Sam's not going to have his

644
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,560
own room.
He's obviously going to have a

645
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,000
heavy influence in the
linebacker room, but I don't.

646
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,720
Obviously, he's not going to be
assigned as the position coach

647
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:50,680
to that room.
Is, is, is Quinn sliding in?

648
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,920
Is ADB taking over?
Are we bringing in two guys on

649
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,080
defense?
What's this going to look like?

650
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,960
We still have a little over
what, $800,000 potentially to

651
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,560
play around with it sounds like.
More because what you got to

652
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,480
think of Brian is if Prelo
leaves, takes a less role in a

653
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,000
cut.
Yeah, I think he's making three

654
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,600
and a quarter.
So reality is you have about

655
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,440
1.2, maybe more.
I guess it depends on where that

656
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,240
gets allocated, but yeah, I mean
I will.

657
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:28,680
Use all the money.
Yeah, Yeah, you got it, you need

658
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:29,720
it.
Go ahead and spend it.

659
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:36,600
So that that brings him to the
question, you know is, is this

660
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:43,960
going to be AI guess?
I guess the question is going to

661
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:50,440
be, do you still look at a John
Scott junior and does he just

662
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:57,800
work with outside linebackers?
He's coached outside linebackers

663
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,440
in the past.
He's been primarily with

664
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,640
defensive ends.
I don't know.

665
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,720
I I'm very intrigued to see what
the other staff moves are going

666
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:13,440
to be, even though I do think
safety is probably the the one

667
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360
that we we're definitely going
to get in this move.

668
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,200
Tally Sheldon.
Any feels on that?

669
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,400
Yeah, I can't think about no
more coaching moves.

670
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,880
I just got to sit back and let
them, let them do what they do.

671
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,840
I can't even rack my brain about
it.

672
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,880
I just need them to make some
good decisions and put put

673
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,520
something good together so we
can win.

674
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,680
I need, I need to go to Atlanta
and win.

675
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:38,360
So.
He needs to go to Atlanta and

676
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,760
y'all remember that?
Y'all remember that?

677
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,280
Let's go back to the what you
brought up before because it was

678
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,280
not announced the last time we
were here.

679
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,720
But with FUR taking over the
strength and conditioning

680
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,520
program, I know some people were
like, oh, well, that's just an

681
00:38:53,520 --> 00:39:00,960
inside move.
And it's really not because Dege

682
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,240
had his own philosophy on how to
train and it was not from the

683
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:11,240
school that FUR came from.
So it is a different mentality.

684
00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:15,840
And Brian, which one of y'all
said something was either Tally

685
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,840
or Brian that mentioned some
couple weeks ago about you can

686
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,360
have your own philosophies and
you can work with someone in

687
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,080
that field, but you still have
your own philosophies of how

688
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,360
doing things.
True.

689
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,720
Was it you tally?
Would you be?

690
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,480
I don't know, I think, I think
we just kind of brought it up.

691
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,200
I can't remember who exactly
brought it up, but yeah, no, I I

692
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,440
agree.
And sometimes like, I mean,

693
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,040
there's ideas that I have, but
if my boss don't bring them up,

694
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,680
I can't just go in and implement
them.

695
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,240
You know what I'm saying?
Like there's a pecking order.

696
00:39:55,240 --> 00:40:00,080
So I'm sure that it was things
for him to, and I'm sure they

697
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,760
had to do some interviewing, you
know what I'm saying?

698
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,280
Like there was some he didn't
just say, OK, we're going to

699
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,840
give you the job.
Like I'm sure it was other

700
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,440
people that they reached out to
and interviewed and things like

701
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,480
that.
And they pretty much looked at,

702
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,920
you know what, what do we need
and who can be the one to help

703
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,920
us get there as quickly as
possible.

704
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,440
And sometimes it's just love,
and sometimes it's just the

705
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,640
person who's willing to put in
the most time.

706
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,600
You know, and just get as deep
into the job as they can before

707
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,320
it's done.
And somebody who's been there

708
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,680
and understands what the culture
needs to get back to.

709
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,360
Sometimes it's because, again,
we weren't far off on a lot of

710
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:51,120
stuff, you know, not making
excuses, but it's like if, if we

711
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:56,160
can shore up those small things,
the big things will happen on on

712
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,240
Saturday nights and Sundays and
Tuesdays or Thursdays, whatever

713
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:05,040
nights they got us playing now.
But yeah, I think I'm just from,

714
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,840
from what I've heard and I, I'm
again, I'm just a fan.

715
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,240
He's came in and he's done some
things that no other strength

716
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:14,680
and conditioning culture has
been doing.

717
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,880
You know what I'm saying?
Walking in, saying this ain't

718
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,840
play time, Turn the radio off,
let's get the lifting.

719
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,280
We going to get stronger.
We going to be serious about

720
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,320
this.
You know, little stuff like that

721
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:33,640
sometimes is what a team needs,
you know, to find those leaders.

722
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,200
Sometimes you got to push people
too close to the breaking point

723
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,480
to figure out who's going to
grab the people up and bring

724
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,640
them along as well.
And I think that's what we kind

725
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,560
of missed last year, you know,
some leaders on the field and

726
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,040
some people that were able to
finish.

727
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:52,240
So I'm hoping that that's what
Ferg brings to to the team as a

728
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:54,760
whole.
Bron.

729
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,200
Yeah.
I think just in general, like,

730
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:04,400
like Tally's point there.
Yeah, I think with Ferguson's

731
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:11,240
toughness and the the he's been
exposed to kind of two or three

732
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:13,840
different ways of doing the job
at this point.

733
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:20,920
And I think he understands that
one of those we saw a lot of

734
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,080
success, especially with the way
we prepared athletes for the

735
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,040
field.
And I think so he I think we're

736
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,080
looking at more of a, a Gentry
model.

737
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,680
I feel like that that is what
he's going to lean on when it

738
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:38,560
comes to strength and
conditioning with a little bit

739
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,880
of modernization, right?
It's it's still going to have

740
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:46,920
some more more modern concepts,
but I think at some point you

741
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,440
still got to get back to the
bread and butter of what made

742
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,920
this program great and what what
we saw success at.

743
00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:57,120
You know, I think he's going to
give us that.

744
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:01,440
I think I think the big thing is
going to be the the conditioning

745
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,720
piece, because this team
definitely looked like they

746
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:07,520
faded in fourth quarters pretty
consistently, both on both sides

747
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,280
of the ball, but particularly on
defense.

748
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,920
Yeah, I, I, I don't think we're
going to be in a situation where

749
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,840
that's going to be a problem
with the Jarrett Ferguson in

750
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,640
that position.
And I'll say this too, just

751
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,880
because it's been so long since
I've really been into like a

752
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,000
locker room where I had to do
some stuff.

753
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,320
You know, I'm old man.
I don't, I don't care about

754
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,680
doing that stuff.
But going through the stuff with

755
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:35,760
my son and watching what is said
about their strength and

756
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,120
conditioning coaches and how
they feel about their coaches

757
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,320
and things like that, it's a big
deal.

758
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Because like his basketball team
has a strength and conditioning

759
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,840
coach and it's like everybody
looks to him.

760
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,680
Even during the game when things
go a little bit awry, they like

761
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:58,320
they look to Coach B to settle
things down or to, is it OK for

762
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,200
me to get amped up?
You know what I'm saying?

763
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,760
Just because they're with him so
much and he's with them during

764
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:09,120
those grueling times that the
players kind of look at him as

765
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,560
a, you know, a go to figure, you
know, because he's not the head

766
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,040
coach, but he's the strength and
conditioning coach sets the

767
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,040
tone.
So a lot of times he's and he's

768
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,120
at every game.
He's, you know, he doesn't have

769
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,560
any kids on the team.
It's his job is just to to to

770
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,120
coach them in the weight room.
But he's at every basketball

771
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,920
game and he's constantly talking
to players and he's constantly

772
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,480
telling them things that can
help them get better from a

773
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,920
strength and conditioning point.
So sometimes it's not XS and OS

774
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,160
that he's saying about the
actual sport.

775
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,240
He's talking to them about what
he coaches them in.

776
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,080
So if somebody's invested like
that on the sidelines, like I

777
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,000
think Fergie is, I think that
it's definitely going to going

778
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,600
to help a lot.
So again, I think Chris put up

779
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:58,960
something, said it's different
than that.

780
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,040
I mean, Chris has a a son on the
team.

781
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,800
So I'm sure he can attest a
little bit better than we can of

782
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,960
what goes on in there.
But not just Chris, you know

783
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,840
what I'm saying?
That's other players and parents

784
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,640
that I've talked to that have
raved about some things that

785
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,360
Fergus done.
So I just want to get to a third

786
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,080
quarter or fourth quarter and
get the quarterback on the

787
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,800
ground.
Good play call, be strong

788
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:27,040
enough, be disciplined enough to
get the quarterback from Miami

789
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,080
on the ground and let's go win
the game.

790
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,680
I want to be able to do that.
I want to see the players do

791
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,560
that all.
Right, Shelton?

792
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,880
Anything on Berg?
Anything like that?

793
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,680
I mean nothing specifically
really.

794
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,120
I would just say, you know, in
my experience, you know,

795
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,640
straining, initiating coach,
like every other coach, it all

796
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,400
starts with relationships.
You have to show that you you

797
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,920
care about the players as people
to get the most out of them.

798
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,000
And so I think that, you know,
the bond that you have with them

799
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:56,240
is the foundation for everything
else that you can accomplish.

800
00:45:56,240 --> 00:45:58,400
So it's not just about, you
know, what's what's my workout

801
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,280
or what's my routine like you
got to show that you care about

802
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,040
them to get the most out of
them.

803
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,040
And that's, you know, obviously
the most most important thing

804
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,320
you got to, you know, find the
balancing part between, you

805
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,240
know, tough love, but also, you
know, holding them accountable

806
00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:14,160
and, you know, showing
appreciation for the same time.

807
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,440
There's always a a balancing act
there between not being too

808
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,000
soft, but nothing too hard
either.

809
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,640
You know, what I I've read
about, you know, the some of

810
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,560
those SEC coaches under, under
Nick Saban, the job that they

811
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,640
did, you know, being, you know,
so, so widely respected in the

812
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,000
program.
Just, you know, how much time

813
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,320
that the athletes spend with
those strength coaches is really

814
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:32,480
critical.
I mean, it's it's a critical

815
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,600
part of the part of the program.
So again, I can't speak to, you

816
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,320
know, Farragut and his specific
traits, but hopefully they can

817
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,840
get someone in there.
They're really just, you know,

818
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,400
again, can you know, just hold
them accountable.

819
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,800
Yeah, you, you just said it and
Brian put it up there with the,

820
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,320
Robbie says the guys do spend a,
a ton of time with the

821
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,400
strengthening conditioning coach
because it's, as we know, winter

822
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,080
workouts start soon.
They're with them more than

823
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,560
anybody here.
They're within their summer

824
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,280
workouts.
They're with them in the in the

825
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,360
locker room getting treatments
and all that stuff.

826
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,200
So with that staff more and
more.

827
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,960
But I think going back to the
Ferguson mentality, AI think a

828
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:12,320
couple people have said if a guy
don't look like Jerry Ferguson

829
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,040
in your strengths in the
conditioning room, then that

830
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,000
ain't your strengths and
conditioning coach.

831
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,120
Because you look at him, he is a
big SOB.

832
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:25,160
He played mean, he played hard.
He was a, he was the last of one

833
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,320
of the full backs way back in
the day in the early 2000s.

834
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,600
But I also think Brian, you
mentioned he's been through

835
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,880
several strength and
conditioning coaches.

836
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,920
So obviously it's picking up
extra things.

837
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:43,760
But the thing that made getting
gentrified was it was what Tally

838
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:49,360
has mentioned it was.
We got late deep in the games

839
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:53,680
and guys still had the energy
level to get to quarterback on

840
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:57,600
the ground to make that run.
I'll always go back, go back

841
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,520
2009, close your eyes, go back
to Alabama.

842
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,160
When Brian, when Ryan Williams
broke that big one like that was

843
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,040
late third quarter and he
exploded away from basically an

844
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,000
NFL defense.
Why?

845
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,760
Because to tallies point, to
Brian's point, to Shelton's

846
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:20,640
point, he was conditioned, he
was ready to explode like that

847
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,360
late third quarter, not the
early part of the game, late

848
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,200
third quarter.
So there, that is right there.

849
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,080
All right, you mentioned Brian a
few minutes ago.

850
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,280
It's kind of a talking point.
It looks like he's going to be

851
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,480
ADC only.
That will all to me.

852
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,360
That's all going to fall out in
the next few weeks with

853
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,080
additional hires in the
reshuffling of the staff.

854
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,560
So we'll probably talk a little
bit more about that at a later

855
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,400
time, but I want to let's just
be straight up on this and I

856
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,160
don't know how many other people
will talk about it, but I do

857
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:55,720
want to talk about it.
What option was saying, because

858
00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:01,440
I'll give pry credit and he
didn't say it, but he said, hey,

859
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,920
we had a guy catching in the
national championship game that

860
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,960
we had interest from.
We know he want one.

861
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:09,760
Was he 2?
Was he 3?

862
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,000
Was he 4?
Was he one?

863
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,560
What do y'all think?
What do you think?

864
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:14,840
I'll I'll pitch it back to you
first.

865
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,520
Where do you think he was?
I mean, based on what I'm

866
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,480
reading, I would say anywhere
from 3:00 to 5:00.

867
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,160
I mean, I know they went in
Knowles.

868
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,320
I know you know, they're looking
at Bateman.

869
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,520
And it seemed like Bateman was a
guy for a little bit of time.

870
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,200
I don't know where.
I mean, look, Price in his press

871
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,800
conference today, they initially
had a list of about 20

872
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,080
candidates.
So they kind of they're down to

873
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,800
10.
And that's when they started

874
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,840
doing the very Thor research.
They started doing those, you

875
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,240
know, 4 hour interviews with all
those candidates.

876
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:45,680
So out of the pool of 10, I'd
say he's probably top five, but

877
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,240
I I don't know where exactly in
that pecking order he was

878
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:52,640
specifically.
Tally Brown Y'all got a feeling

879
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,360
on this?
No, I kind of, I kind of go

880
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,880
with, Shelton said.
I was thinking he probably was

881
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,520
in that, you know, three to five
range somewhere around there

882
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,280
just because like I said, of
course, I mean the big names is

883
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,680
probably out there when some
people say no, some people say

884
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,800
banks.
And again, I don't know these

885
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,680
people.
I just I mean, I know the

886
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,160
defense when I watch football,
but I don't know these people

887
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,680
until people start telling me
their names.

888
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,560
Derek just put in the chat that
Seth Wallace from Iowa, I don't

889
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,160
know him, you know what I'm
saying?

890
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,760
I know I was defense, but I
don't know none of these people.

891
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,720
So I just know kind of what I've
heard of people.

892
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:31,480
And I feel like once we talked
about it, once we looked at

893
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:37,360
things, there's no way that
Bateman was the choice on when,

894
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,240
when did he announce this month?
Yesterday.

895
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:41,920
Yesterday.
So there's no way that Bateman

896
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:48,360
was the choice on Sunday night
and then we hired Sam Monday.

897
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,960
It just don't, it can't be, it
don't make sense.

898
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:57,600
Like when you're doing all the
research and then you know, how

899
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,240
did you get the stuff in place
that quickly?

900
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:01,200
I don't know.
I just don't think that I think

901
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,720
it was a little bit more
thorough than us as fans know

902
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,960
it.
Just when you're not right, you

903
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,560
probably get a little bit upset
because you want to be the one

904
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,560
to break the news or know a
little bit more or just want to

905
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,080
be in the know.
Just wanted it to happen.

906
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,880
So again, it is a very wait and
see type hire.

907
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,560
Some people thought that I
probably would be a little upset

908
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,320
on him, which I'm not.
I mean, again, everybody kind of

909
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,160
knows how I feel.
I haven't heard this.

910
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:32,600
I think it all goes back to the
head coach.

911
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,920
I don't think that, yes, you do
have to make some good coaching

912
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,480
hires, but I think that if Pry
elevates his game this offseason

913
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,040
as a coach, then the team will
be fine.

914
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,280
I think that we get some of
those games that we lose if the

915
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,640
head coach elevates his game, so
that's kind of how I feel.

916
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,600
I can agree with that.
I think, you know, looking at

917
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,920
options, I'd say 3 or 4.
I don't think it's probably

918
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,400
lower than that.
I don't know where the Bateman

919
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,800
smoke came from, if that was
just a play by Bateman's agent

920
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,760
to get some some smoke out there
to help with everything that's

921
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:16,440
going on with the A&M situation.
I I don't know.

922
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,280
But to Tally's point, I don't
think it was Bateman Sunday

923
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,480
night and then Sam Monday
afternoon.

924
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,520
So whether we think there was
some other guys in that mix.

925
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,120
I mean, I know Derek said, you
know, Seth Wallace, we obviously

926
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,080
think Jim Knowles at this point.
You know, we heard we heard

927
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:40,240
banks early that kind of, you
know, if we talk about, you

928
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:45,120
know, Allen was really the the
the the first movement that kind

929
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,720
of started the trickle down
effect with everything else.

930
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,120
So yeah, I mean, these like blue
blood or borderline blue blood

931
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:57,920
programs shuffling defensive
coordinators in what I, you

932
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:00,080
know, I think a lot of people
felt were pretty comfortable

933
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,320
positions.
You know, you usually don't have

934
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,280
a national championship
defensive coordinator going to a

935
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,840
in conference rival just for
some more money.

936
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,680
So that's that's an interesting
look.

937
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,640
But it apparently, you know,
Knowles was going to be the fall

938
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,320
guy after Michigan or so the the
the story is going and all of a

939
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,560
sudden they're going to run and
the rest is history.

940
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,040
So he ends up getting a a bigger
payday instead of, you know,

941
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,200
getting shown the door.
So that's interesting And and

942
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,120
I'm sure that played some of the
roles in in kind of what we were

943
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:38,200
dealing with there.
But you know, again, I'm not

944
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,120
disappointed that with the
higher that we have, I think

945
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,640
it's one of those where, you
know, you see the potential

946
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,720
maybe in other areas.
When you look at Knowles

947
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:51,840
defense, it's a it's a base for
two, but they play a lot of that

948
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,200
three high safety.
There's there's a lot of lot of

949
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,760
different, you know, similar
schemes, even though, you know,

950
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,560
the the base alignment is a
little different, right.

951
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,000
So I mean, it's, it's we, we
definitely had a very

952
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,280
intentional hiring process for
this defensive coordinator with

953
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,640
what we wanted to do from a
personnel standpoint.

954
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,640
So I like that.
That that's the truth.

955
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,840
And and I'm with Shelton, I want
to probably put it 4:00 to 5:00

956
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,720
because I do think, I mean, the
rumors are flying out there that

957
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:28,360
Ryan Day was going to axe Jim
Knowles, even though that

958
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,200
defense was really good this
year.

959
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,280
Apparently they had butted heads
on shit.

960
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,920
And you heard Knowles that if
they had lost to Tennessee, the

961
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,160
Knowles thing was going to be
done.

962
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,120
Maybe, maybe not, you don't
know, but it's early in the

963
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,400
process.
And then you hear Banks.

964
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,040
I personally, everybody says we
had Banks.

965
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,000
Like, no, we didn't tally you
with me on this.

966
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,960
Me and Tally talked about it.
Banks came here because he knew

967
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,960
they can offer me blah, blah,
blah.

968
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:58,880
And I'm going to go back to
Tennessee and say they just

969
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,080
offered me blah, blah, blah.
Where do you go off me?

970
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,040
And what did he get?
Oh, wow, he got a $2.1 million

971
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,280
brand new contract.
I wonder how that happened.

972
00:55:07,240 --> 00:55:10,000
It's a game people just because
you think somebody's coming,

973
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,480
they playing games out there
with the money, the Seth

974
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,560
Wallace, the Tom Allen, but I
think he was somewhere 4th to

975
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,840
5th.
Again, I think pride his head

976
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:25,080
has this envision of doing the
three high safety look because

977
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:26,680
we probably can recruit better
to it.

978
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,480
And he laid out some guys where,
hey, they're running something

979
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,680
similar that might fit this.
I can recruit to this and I can

980
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:35,680
land one of these five or six
guys.

981
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,600
Yep, put yeah, put gems up
there.

982
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,040
Yeah, banks definitely used us
as leverage 100%.

983
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,840
So yeah, I mean, again, I don't
think this was off the radar

984
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:51,040
completely to us.
It was because we know names.

985
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,320
Right, that's we were looking
conventional we were looking.

986
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,280
Conventional.
That's a great way to say it.

987
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,280
Brown, we were looking
conventional.

988
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,280
All right, let's roll on and
let's talk about the portal

989
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,680
because y'all, we weren't done
Tally.

990
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:09,320
We went through like 19 guys
last time we thought we were

991
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,920
done with the portal Shelton, I
won't bring you in on this

992
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,240
combo.
I know recruiting you don't

993
00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:16,600
follow anymore but.
For the sake of my mental

994
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,400
health, yes.
He's got to take a break.

995
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,720
On some part of.
That let's talk about this.

996
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,640
Let's talk about the two guys we
got.

997
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:32,240
I want to start with Ben Bell,
the Texas State transfer, one of

998
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:37,360
the higher recruited transfers
that we got out of it.

999
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,680
It looked like he was going to
go to Ole Miss, but for somehow,

1000
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,680
some reason, some way, some
shape from form, we pull him

1001
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,120
out.
We got the ginger gang.

1002
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,880
Now all the redheads.
He looks like Andrew Parent.

1003
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,760
I don't care what Andrew Parent
tries to say.

1004
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,120
That might be his kid from an
illegitimate relationship.

1005
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,360
He he was busting that one out
early, then you.

1006
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,080
Damn right.
And that is what it is.

1007
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:07,320
But any thoughts on this guy?
I mean, he was pretty highly

1008
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,520
thought of at the beginning of
the season.

1009
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:12,320
The Red Sea.
The Red Sea.

1010
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,680
All right, if if they can get 30
sacks combined, we'll call them

1011
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:19,520
the Red Sea.
But y'all, Brian Talley, whoever

1012
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,760
wants to go first, what do y'all
do?

1013
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,040
Y'all look at Bell.
What do y'all see from him?

1014
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,800
What do you like?
Bill's just got a motor man.

1015
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,440
He's got a great motor.
I don't think he didn't play

1016
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:33,360
much in this season.
So looking looking last season

1017
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,440
because I know I think he didn't
play so he could red shirt.

1018
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,280
So because he knew he wanted to
get out.

1019
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:48,280
But again, high level player
does have some production graded

1020
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:52,840
out really well in most people
who watching him play.

1021
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,920
So I'm interested to see what he
brings.

1022
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,480
Just bring some toughness too.
You know what I'm saying?

1023
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,840
Anytime, like anytime you got a
white dude with red hair that's

1024
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,720
playing on the defensive line or
close around the line, then he's

1025
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:09,880
probably going to be good.
So being Bill is if you go watch

1026
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,080
his tape, you can watch just a
little bit of what he does and

1027
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,360
he's going to fly off the tape
just of his motor and how he how

1028
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,480
he he's trying to get to the
ball.

1029
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,880
Like he's not trying to take a
double team just to to free

1030
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,960
somebody else up.
He's trying to beat it.

1031
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,600
He's trying to get to the ball.
So I'm excited to see what he

1032
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:32,920
can bring to the defense.
He's he's got that those, those

1033
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,880
crazy eyes that you like to see
in a defensive lineman, like

1034
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,960
when they when they kind of
that, that, that almost like the

1035
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,120
shark eyes, like when they smell
blood in the water.

1036
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:47,520
Like he's he's got those type of
eyes in intensity about him when

1037
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:51,280
he plays.
I'm excited.

1038
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,560
I think it's good skill set.
I think it matches.

1039
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,560
It would have been, it would
have been good in what we were

1040
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,320
doing.
It's going to I think be great

1041
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,600
in what we're moving to.
So I'm really excited.

1042
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,600
And tell you made the point
about like, what did he do?

1043
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:14,640
He he only played four games
this year in four games, 1313

1044
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:18,400
tackles, 6 for loss, 3 1/2 of
those were sacks.

1045
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,040
Also forced to fumble in four
games.

1046
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,000
And this is something we're
going to see.

1047
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:26,880
There's going to be guys who
were down at G5 that know I can

1048
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,960
get money somewhere else.
I might not make it in the

1049
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,160
league, but I can make 6 figures
for one year.

1050
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:37,640
What?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1051
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,640
That was a good one tally.
That was a good one.

1052
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:48,080
Jumping Guy in 2023 was an
absolute monster. 57 tackles, 10

1053
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,480
sacks, 16 tackles are lost.
A forced fumble.

1054
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:54,200
Like in play the crazy eyes
100%.

1055
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,960
All right, let's flip to the
other guy that we got here

1056
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:02,800
coming out of Coastal Carolina
with Braden Bennett.

1057
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,160
Braden's old.
I feel, I think Brain's, I think

1058
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,880
Brain's a COVID guy, so he's
been here a while.

1059
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:15,240
But anything you'll see like
locks, all statistics and stuff

1060
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:23,480
like that because it's a good
late pick up. 622262215 that

1061
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,520
that's enough as a running back,
right?

1062
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:31,160
We I'll take it production.
I think he had about 900 yards

1063
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:36,400
this past year and that's what
we need, the last thing we need.

1064
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:40,800
And I know a lot of people were
asking questions and again, I

1065
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,160
know that y'all watch the game.
Nobody in the chat.

1066
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:46,480
Maybe I'm just talking to some
people on Twitter that don't

1067
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,040
watch the games.
But again, I know that all of us

1068
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,840
watch the games.
You never want to be in a

1069
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,320
position where you cannot run
the ball at all.

1070
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,880
When we played against Clemson,
we we would, we didn't even

1071
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,960
attempt to run the ball.
You just can't win.

1072
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,360
One reason was our running back
was hurt, then RB, one was hurt,

1073
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:12,440
then RB2 was hurt, and then we
had a young guy that I think

1074
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,840
fumble that the coaches were
scared.

1075
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,120
So you got to be able to run the
ball, man.

1076
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:23,880
And that's part of the reasons
why the defense was put in bad

1077
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,160
positions is because we couldn't
finish certain drives.

1078
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,120
It's what I get so pissed about
with the offense going back to

1079
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,000
last year.
But anyway, great pick up to

1080
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:37,520
have AI think what James said in
here like a third down back, you

1081
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,960
know, and I think that I have to
go look at the stats, but I

1082
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,760
think he was good at catching
the ball out of the backfield as

1083
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,280
well.
So you do want, I mean, you're

1084
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,800
bringing in two guys that have
been there who's already had

1085
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,640
some production, who's played at
a high level in Stewart and in

1086
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,960
in Bennett.
And you want to be able to get

1087
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,640
them in games and let's see who
gets hot.

1088
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,360
Because it's a slippery slope
when you're dealing with stuff

1089
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:08,480
like the portal and recruiting
and bringing people in.

1090
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,640
But then you go and look at Ohio
State who had a beast of a

1091
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,240
running back in Trayvon
Henderson.

1092
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,080
And then they go get a beast of
a running back from Ole Miss and

1093
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,360
Junkman, like 1 running back
just can't do it.

1094
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:25,520
You got to be able to have
options and you got to account

1095
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:30,840
for injury.
So I'm excited that they did go

1096
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,600
out and get him.
I I don't understand, like I was

1097
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,920
thinking when we got him, like
what, why like not why did we

1098
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,920
get it, but like why is he still
there for us?

1099
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,480
You know, I thought that would
have been a little bit, but you

1100
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,360
just it's part of recruiting,
man.

1101
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,480
And it's still it's still
players that want to play for

1102
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,280
Virginia Tech.
You just got to find them and

1103
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:54,280
you got to have something to to
draw them in and want to come

1104
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,000
here and I'm trying to read
while I'm talking and Josh just

1105
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,720
put up some good, he said.
Bennett had 25 catches for 188

1106
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,600
yards and two touchdowns.
Thank you.

1107
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:07,880
At at six two, you know, 220,
you know that that's that's what

1108
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,960
we want.
And then also, you know, I know

1109
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,600
we've already talked about
seldom coming in, who's played

1110
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,360
some running back, but probably
going to be more of like a slot

1111
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,760
widely with some kind of like a
Debo Samuel Samuel setup.

1112
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,960
But you can never have too much
production.

1113
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:27,720
So I'm I'm all about it.
I think Sheldon had something

1114
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,160
that he wanted to throw in.
Sheldon, what you got, buddy?

1115
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,800
Yeah.
So my understanding is Terry on

1116
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,800
Stewart isn't quite as
well-rounded as facial tune was

1117
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,680
in terms of just, you know, pass
blocking and pass catching.

1118
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,160
So I think what they wanted to
do adding Bennett was get, you

1119
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,560
know, just just add some more
bodies there and kind of have it

1120
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,080
be more of a bike committee
approach, you know, because

1121
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,080
Bennett's got some decent
numbers, not necessarily, you

1122
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,440
know, eye popping, but, you
know, he's a pretty solid, you

1123
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,680
know, explosive guy.
But they just want some more,

1124
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,000
some more options there for for
their third down, you know,

1125
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,000
personnel selection in
particular.

1126
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,440
Brian, anything on Braden
Bennett as we wrap up the portal

1127
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,920
section here?
Yeah, I think to to Sheldon's

1128
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,800
point, you know, getting that
insurance policy and having a

1129
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,280
guy that you can trust on 3rd
downs is always going to be

1130
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,440
important, whether you're using
that person out of a backfield

1131
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,440
or whether you're you're keeping
them in there to block.

1132
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,240
Having someone that you can
count on the rely on on 3rd down

1133
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,800
is so important when it comes to
pass protection.

1134
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:27,960
So that's going to be a big
point.

1135
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,960
And I think that's where you'll
see Bennett shine with that

1136
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,600
size, the ability to to to pass
block, but still being a

1137
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,600
productive receiver out of the
backfield.

1138
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:45,920
All righty, let's roll on just a
few more notes before we look at

1139
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,600
the schedule for a few minutes
here.

1140
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,880
Jordan Bass love it.
Have mercy.

1141
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:58,520
Now, in some cases, some people
are saying this is good.

1142
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,720
You need some stupid ones and
crazy ones out there because you

1143
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,520
got to balance everybody.
Can't be a choirboy football,

1144
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:13,360
but it was it was report.
I think it was on January 5th

1145
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:15,920
because I went back and looked
into some record.

1146
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:20,680
There was a DUI by the by
Virginia Tech police on that

1147
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,240
day.
Then just a few weeks later pops

1148
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:25,880
out.
But Lord have mercy, could you

1149
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:31,680
have waited like this summer?
Could you have waited till

1150
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,040
summer?
He should have waited till just

1151
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,840
after the spring game like 420
right?

1152
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,080
No, he needed to go ahead and
get it out of his system.

1153
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:45,040
Now, from my from my
understanding, he's hurt anyway.

1154
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,440
So I think Bass is going to be
real limited in the spring.

1155
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,080
Not that doesn't.
I ain't saying that that makes a

1156
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,160
difference that he should go and
get in trouble.

1157
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,640
But I don't think this is I
mean, he wasn't going to be able

1158
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:01,880
to do much in the spring anyway.
So sometimes you got to, you

1159
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:06,120
know, you got to start a a
villain art, you got to have a

1160
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:09,480
villain origin story.
So if this is what it takes for

1161
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:14,080
you to get serious, you know,
you just transferred you coming

1162
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:16,240
back home and then you go and
you get in trouble.

1163
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,640
So now you know it's serious.
You know, these kids all want to

1164
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,240
get NIL.
They want to be able to take

1165
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,040
care of the families and get
money.

1166
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,440
But there is stipulation that
comes along with that.

1167
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,280
There's some, you know, some
some grown upness that comes

1168
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:35,160
along with having a job.
This is treated as a job now

1169
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,600
because you're getting paid.
So I'm not saying that I'm glad

1170
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:43,760
it happened, but if it's going
to happen, I think now's the

1171
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:48,080
time so we can get on track to
spin it into something positive.

1172
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,760
And again I'm going.
To say this hold on so firkin

1173
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,480
work his ass and a little bit of
extra for the stupidity.

1174
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,440
And then I'll say this, I don't
smoke.

1175
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,720
It's weed, man, You know what
I'm saying?

1176
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,120
It's weed.
Nobody's ever nobody, nobody's

1177
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:07,280
ever got high and drove a car
100 miles an hour.

1178
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,920
You probably got high and drove
a car 10 miles an hour.

1179
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,720
I'm just saying you're probably
going under the speed limit

1180
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,920
instead of over it.
So I'd rather you be smoking and

1181
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,320
driving than drinking and
driving.

1182
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,560
Don't do neither one of them if
it's any kids out there, but I'm

1183
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:26,320
just saying them Georgia players
was getting behind the wheel of

1184
01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:29,360
cars and they was getting all
kinds of stuff from here and

1185
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,400
they were still playing.
So let's just go ahead and let's

1186
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:37,480
get past this and and let's not
let's not get in trouble no more

1187
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,240
everybody else.
Let's let's let's keep it

1188
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:41,200
straight.
Yeah, there we go.

1189
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,800
I real quick.
It was announced spring game

1190
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:51,920
April 12th IMTBD tally.
Haven't even thought about it

1191
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:53,080
yet.
I don't know.

1192
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:54,920
Hopefully, hopefully I can make
it.

1193
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,520
It's always fun to go to the
spring name.

1194
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,440
My wife likes to go.
We usually stay in Bristol, go

1195
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,400
to the casino a little bit, then
drive up.

1196
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,600
So I don't know man.
I'm going to try to, I'm going

1197
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,040
to try to.
I'm going to try my best.

1198
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,640
Even better, Tal, it's a 3.
It's a late pick this year so

1199
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,840
that gives you time to go gamble
off Friday night, get a little

1200
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:18,720
nap, wake up by 9, be in town by
11 and you still can tailgate

1201
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:22,600
and everything.
Shelton, I don't know what the

1202
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,600
schedule looks like or is there
a potential you could be there

1203
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,160
the 12th or is it a no go?
There's potential.

1204
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,520
OK, OK.
There's potentially potential.

1205
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,880
There's potentially potential,
Brian.

1206
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:39,479
I'm there.
I'm already booked.

1207
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,479
I'm I booked before the
announcement came out so.

1208
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,479
Was April 12th?
Is that what you said, April?

1209
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,279
12th.
Yeah.

1210
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,319
OK.
We might be able to slide

1211
01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:51,080
through that.
We'll, we'll be coming back from

1212
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,880
the cruise.
I'll have a week at work and

1213
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:57,040
then I'll head down to head down
to Blacksburg baby.

1214
01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:00,920
You'll hey you go Brian, you
will have a week to convince my

1215
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,359
wife to let me go that weekend.
Yeah, I'm.

1216
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:04,600
I'm going to be the pitch man.
I'm.

1217
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:05,880
Going to be the pitch man all
the.

1218
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,920
Way or you going to put Andrew
you.

1219
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,960
Going to call Andrew, be like go
go go pitch to Kim.

1220
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:14,520
Y'all going to be in that?
Y'all going to be in that tiny

1221
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,560
room four weeks she going to be
itching for you to get out of

1222
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,000
her hair I promise you.
Cruise rooms.

1223
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:21,600
We got.
Hold on.

1224
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,439
Real quick, get out.
We got some friends of ours

1225
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,960
going that I kid you, they've
got a teenage daughter and a son

1226
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:31,200
that's a little bit younger than
me and Brian's kids.

1227
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,000
They just wouldn't get 2
separate rooms.

1228
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,560
Mom and dad, daddy, dad, dad and
son staying in one Mom and dog

1229
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,960
staying in.
I'll tell you, man, we went the

1230
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,399
last year we went on a cruise.
It was my son's first cruise and

1231
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,800
we got 2 rooms, but my daughter
and her friend went in one room

1232
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:49,200
and then my son stayed in the
room with me and my wife and

1233
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,560
we'd never seen it.
We'd never seen it.

1234
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,120
I wish he was that way while he
was at home.

1235
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,720
He would get up, he would wake
himself up and he would be out

1236
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,120
of the room at like 6:30 in the
morning.

1237
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,440
He was going and eating lunch
with people.

1238
01:10:02,440 --> 01:10:05,000
I mean eating breakfast with,
with little girls and their

1239
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,240
families.
And I would just get random

1240
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,960
pictures of people, like
snapping pictures and be like,

1241
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:11,600
Hey, did you know he was over
here?

1242
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,560
He was going and playing
basketball early in the

1243
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,000
mornings.
And then he'd be like, Hey, how

1244
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,960
like, you know, stay out.
We going, we all going to get

1245
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,280
pizza because they'll have on
the cruise we was on.

1246
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:21,960
The big thing was pizza late at
night, so.

1247
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,160
That's what we.
Heard too.

1248
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,840
They were all yeah, they were
all out eating pizza at 2:00 in

1249
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,960
the morning until they.
So we never seen him, you know,

1250
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,240
not saying that you still don't
need no space, but for for me, I

1251
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,800
was like, I kind of like this.
He's here, but he ain't here, so

1252
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:41,120
I'm gonna let him do a thing.
There we go, all righty.

1253
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,720
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1254
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1255
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1256
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1257
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But Tally, you hit me up today

1258
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:02,280
and told me a little something
because if y'all did not see

1259
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:07,360
ESPN put out just a little
earlier today the top 100 games

1260
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,560
of 2024 college football
edition, Tally was teasing me

1261
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,440
and asking.
So Tally, I'm going to put this

1262
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:20,360
on you.
How many games did the Hokies

1263
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,760
have in the top 100 this year?
I just looked at the one, they

1264
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,560
may have one more, but I know
they had one and it was at 7 and

1265
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,520
it was the Miami game, the Miami
Virginia Tech game.

1266
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:36,960
And I just thought, I wonder
what Curtis, when I first seen

1267
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,480
that, I said, I wonder what
Curtis thinks about us losing

1268
01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:45,200
this game and them cheating us
and it turning up to be the

1269
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:50,840
number 7 best game of the year.
So Curtis, you was my first

1270
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:52,880
thought when I seen that.
That was your first thought,

1271
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,000
because you know you're going to
make me mad about that.

1272
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,320
It was my first thought it.
It it it yeah, there we go.

1273
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,040
We got ho that's the honest to
God truth.

1274
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,920
But it was a great game, That
game on that Friday night AI

1275
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,920
think the numbers were like 4
million.

1276
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,160
It was like one of the highest
rated Friday night games ever. 4

1277
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:14,720
million's a ton of people for a
Friday night game and it was a

1278
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,560
great game.
But whatever you want to say.

1279
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,640
I was pissed about the iPhones
because we did get screwed

1280
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,120
calmer bit them in the ass
against Syracuse later in the

1281
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,080
year if they deserved it, but it
should have happened to us.

1282
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:32,280
But it was truly a great game.
I mean from beginning to end,

1283
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:38,440
you know, it had all the drama,
it had stops, it had go ahead

1284
01:12:38,440 --> 01:12:41,080
scores, it had comeback and then
the crazy shit at the end.

1285
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:45,120
It's some I don't know is if
it's, you know, maybe it should

1286
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,520
have been top five, but I'd have
to go through everything.

1287
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,880
Sheldon, do you Sheldon, I feel
like you have that, don't you?

1288
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,240
Did we have any the the you had?
And I think David Hale wrote it

1289
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,640
the top 100 games of the year.
Let me find it because I think.

1290
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,000
We're no, I don't have it
linked.

1291
01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:05,840
You don't have it linked.
Let me try to find it because I

1292
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:13,320
think someone said that the
Syracuse game is on there.

1293
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:16,400
It might have been on that, too.
I know, I know.

1294
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,920
The first thing that caught my
eye was the Miami game.

1295
01:13:19,480 --> 01:13:24,760
And what I remember about the
Miami game is that this is even

1296
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:29,120
though we lost, this is what
Virginia Tech looks like.

1297
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:33,920
Like we looked like a football
team that was poised to take the

1298
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,520
next step.
You know what I'm saying?

1299
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:39,080
Now you win that game, you
definitely feel better about

1300
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:44,600
taking the next step.
But just the from the way that

1301
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,680
we, you know, came out and was
chirping at their players.

1302
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:50,160
I mean, it's the NFL players
over there.

1303
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,520
We we chirping back at them.
They're chirping.

1304
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,560
And it was a true rivalry.
You know what I'm saying?

1305
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,760
Like even I told people when
they said when they took the

1306
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,720
Miami game away, I was like,
that's the that's the real

1307
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,480
rivalry.
Like Miami was the first team

1308
01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:06,520
I've seen Virginia Tech play
against in person.

1309
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:12,320
And it's, it's electric, man.
Like, not that the fans don't

1310
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:15,560
like each other, but they like,
that's a real game where they

1311
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,000
really, they respect each other,
but they want to beat each

1312
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,040
other, you know?
Like it was Miami fans there

1313
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,280
that we talked to and it was
just like they wanted to win.

1314
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:27,800
And it's always like that, you
know, we talked about UVA.

1315
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,360
Yeah, it's a rivalry.
But is it, is it really a

1316
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,120
rivalry?
You know what I'm saying?

1317
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:37,120
It's like when you push the
special kid down out of his

1318
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:41,360
wheelchair so many times, like
come on, man, like are you going

1319
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,120
to keep doing that?
Are you all right with that?

1320
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,560
Or you or you really, you know,
you're going to you're going to

1321
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:48,120
stand up to somebody, just punch
it back.

1322
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,160
You actually in a in a in a 12
round bout.

1323
01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:54,440
That's what I like to see.
But I would have really liked

1324
01:14:54,440 --> 01:14:58,000
for us to win that game.
I feel like if we catch that

1325
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,920
ball, that game goes a little
bit.

1326
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:03,400
Higher, we did catch that ball.
We did catch that ball.

1327
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,080
I don't know man.
You like David Cole?

1328
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,480
We caught that ball, too.
I don't even want to think about

1329
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:11,040
it, but.
He he knows what to get me going

1330
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:11,960
about.
Yeah.

1331
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:18,440
I'll just say this year, I'm
hoping that we end up on the top

1332
01:15:18,440 --> 01:15:23,240
100 games and we're coming on we
we coming on, on, on the on the

1333
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,240
top end of it.
Now I will tell you this,

1334
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,040
Curtis, I'll bring you this.
It says the Vandy game was on

1335
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:33,280
that too.
So the number one game of the

1336
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,200
season was Vandy versus Alabama.
No.

1337
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:39,680
That's what they that's what
they put, that's what.

1338
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,120
ESPN put I like Bill Collier
stupid the game of the year.

1339
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,040
I like Bill.
Collier, that's stupid.

1340
01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:47,480
What's who?
Georgia Tech, Georgia.

1341
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,600
I think that was probably like
four.

1342
01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:51,360
Yeah, I.
Think that that should have been

1343
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,640
one.
That game was unreal.

1344
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:56,280
I think I know the Vandy Alabama
game was higher.

1345
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,960
That was 5.
That was five, OK.

1346
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:04,040
And then the the scataboo coming
out party in the playoffs was

1347
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:05,560
like 2.
Yeah.

1348
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,560
So which that was a that was a
freaking good game, man.

1349
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,960
Oh, that was three.
OK, Yeah, that was 22.

1350
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:18,880
Was Bama Georgia one back in
September?

1351
01:16:19,480 --> 01:16:20,920
I don't even remember that game.
That's.

1352
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:28,360
That was an iconic.
Game, whatever, I get it.

1353
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:35,120
Vandy Vandy Vandy Bama was one I
don't agree with that the the

1354
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,320
whole Bama Georgia game.
The only thing that made that

1355
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,440
game like, hey, Bama went up
early.

1356
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:42,200
Georgia gets all the way back.
It was the Ryan Williams

1357
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,280
touchdown.
Like, that was an iconic play.

1358
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:47,000
When they hit that touchdown on
the sideline, it was just like,

1359
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:51,880
they should have lost.
They should have lost the Orange

1360
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,160
Bowl.
Orange Bowl.

1361
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,320
Orange Bowl.
Wait a SEC.

1362
01:16:55,440 --> 01:16:57,440
Orange Bowl was Penn State,
Notre Dame, right?

1363
01:16:59,480 --> 01:17:00,720
Yeah.
Orange Bowl.

1364
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:02,800
Oh, yeah.
There you go.

1365
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,960
Ohio State, Oregon.
That was a great game.

1366
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:09,320
Yeah, the Orange Bowl was a me
and Brian, we watched that

1367
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,520
playing poker.
I lost some money that night

1368
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,920
because I was about halfway
focused on it.

1369
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,600
That was a good like that was
like the classic old school

1370
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:17,880
thing.
It was back.

1371
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:21,800
It was forth that he knew he
knew what to do to rile me up

1372
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:27,160
and the the Texas, Arizona State
game, they they were just I sat

1373
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,040
here almost all day.
Yeah, that was a that was a

1374
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:31,960
great game, man, that.
Was a great game.

1375
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,560
I enjoy probably watching that
game more than any other game

1376
01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:38,040
this year, you know, besides
Virginia Tech games, which I

1377
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,400
didn't enjoy watching some of
them.

1378
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:43,840
But anyway, that was I, I, like
you said New Year's, sitting

1379
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,920
around watching that with my
brother-in-law.

1380
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,960
And that was that was just a
that's what you want, man.

1381
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,040
That's what you want.
That's what you expect A playoff

1382
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,000
game to feel like, You know what
I'm saying?

1383
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,800
Like that was just a great game.
So I'm looking forward to it.

1384
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:04,320
For all the people who say it,
the playoffs was nothing when

1385
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:06,760
you see something like that and
y'all got lucky too.

1386
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,880
Y'all got lucky because in the
national championship they did

1387
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,360
make it a little bit closer than
it should have been.

1388
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:14,960
So I couldn't come in here and
really go off like I wanted to

1389
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,680
because so many people was
talking about, you know, how it

1390
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:21,120
was just so messed up.
And I was like, it's always been

1391
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,680
A1 sided national championship
game for like the last seven

1392
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,040
years.
You know, it's eight years,

1393
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,320
however long we got to go back.
So essentially it was the same

1394
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,000
this year.
They was about to get boat raced

1395
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,280
and then they calmed it down.
Because somebody it was it was

1396
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,880
it was it was entertaining
because you knew at the end

1397
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,600
there like if a house.
Well, first of all, let's talk

1398
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,400
about this play this this is a
Virginia Tech podcast.

1399
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:45,800
But again, I love college
football.

1400
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,600
We all do.
How the hell he put the hat on

1401
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,360
back with you?
How the hell on 3rd and nine do

1402
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:58,600
you play Jeremiah Smith off 9
yards with third and nine?

1403
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:01,000
That boy is going to get the
ball.

1404
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,320
I don't give a shit where he is.
He was getting the ball that

1405
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,880
play and you play off man,
against him and when he did that

1406
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,920
little hitch, he was dead.
I sit here and I say, could you

1407
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,320
at least have played press?
What if he beats press?

1408
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,720
At least you tried.
Yeah.

1409
01:19:19,480 --> 01:19:20,920
Yeah, I don't know.
I think that was a head

1410
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,040
scratching move too.
So I don't know.

1411
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,240
Curtis was texting me about
that.

1412
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:28,800
I was like, what was so pissed
about?

1413
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:32,640
He was hot man.
See shit.

1414
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,760
And it's just like, how is Al
Golden getting paid $1.8 million

1415
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:38,720
a year and it's the biggest play
to you.

1416
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:44,000
You stop them, you get the ball
and you had a chance to tie this

1417
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,400
football game.
You already screwed up once at

1418
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:48,480
the from the 10.
We're going to kick a field

1419
01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:50,200
goal, we're going to be down to
scores.

1420
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:52,400
Still talk about game
management.

1421
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,280
And then it's like against that
kid.

1422
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,360
Anybody else fine.
Anybody else they beat you,

1423
01:19:58,520 --> 01:19:59,560
fine.
That kid?

1424
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,280
No.
That kid is elite.

1425
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,480
And you let him do that?
All righty.

1426
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,960
Where were we?
Schedule.

1427
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,560
Schedule, schedule.
The the full schedule release

1428
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:15,960
has happened and that's what
we'll kind of close it down here

1429
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,120
with the night 2 trips to
Atlanta.

1430
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,960
Everybody, just so you know your
tally, we be there both times.

1431
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,360
Look for him, for those who want
to get you.

1432
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:27,880
Meet him.
Go there, meet him.

1433
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:28,600
He'll take him.
Take.

1434
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:34,160
Six weeks apart, baby.
I'll be there about 3 hours from

1435
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:35,240
my house.
I got to go all.

1436
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,400
Righty, so look real quick over
the schedule.

1437
01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:44,640
I got it out there for y'all.
What did I tell y'all last week

1438
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,600
about the schedule?
I texted all three of y'all

1439
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,880
wherever what Florida State's
our furthest trip this year,

1440
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:53,640
whatever week we play that I
told y'all we're getting Miami

1441
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,800
right after it.
They going to screw us in that

1442
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,800
way to make air travel.
So they they did as my

1443
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,760
prediction to make sure Miami
was after it.

1444
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:06,120
But anything on here y'all like
you dislike you wish was

1445
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:16,000
different?
I, I wish that we were at FSU on

1446
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:21,000
the open date and they had the
open day between FSU and Miami.

1447
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,400
Everything else I'd be fine
with.

1448
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:31,320
All right, I don't really like
NN is going to be kind of a not

1449
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:35,400
the best month other than UVA.
It would be great stop.

1450
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:40,680
Could be great, could be great,
but I'm saying if, if, if we're

1451
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,840
trying to, if the goal is to
spread out the difficult

1452
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:48,440
contest, we put a lot of them,
at least from a talent

1453
01:21:48,440 --> 01:21:53,440
perspective, at least from a
talent perspective in November.

1454
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:57,720
Sheldon, anything you like, you
hate.

1455
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,320
I wish the kickoff game was in
Charlotte, but that's more of a

1456
01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:06,960
personal complaint.
I think we you.

1457
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:08,320
Don't want to.
You don't want to come to

1458
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,840
Atlanta, man.
Charlotte's my city.

1459
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,720
Like that's, you know, it's
just, it's my city, so.

1460
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,120
I got to get to Charlotte, man.
I've heard some good stuff about

1461
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,840
Charlotte.
I've never been so I I need to

1462
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,120
go.
Maybe one December we can just

1463
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:23,880
go there.
You got to get to the clip.

1464
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,640
Yeah, I think that's what I'm
waiting on.

1465
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,760
We got to get to the we got to
get to the spot so I can so I

1466
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,520
can go to Charlotte.
Can y'all make that happen for

1467
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,000
me, Pry?
If you watch it please can you

1468
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,040
get to can you get to Charlotte
so I can experience what

1469
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,320
Charlotte is.
My boy Sheldon is telling me how

1470
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,000
great of a city it is.
He tells me I can get all kind

1471
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,720
of food there.
I'm fat, I like to eat and y'all

1472
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:47,640
are hindering me going and
eating good food because you

1473
01:22:47,640 --> 01:22:50,960
won't get to Charlotte.
Please get to Charlotte please.

1474
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,160
That's all.
There's one, there's one

1475
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,800
restaurant there that had the
best cornbread I've ever tasted

1476
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,120
in my entire life.
I don't know if you're a

1477
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:59,200
cornbread guy, but.
I'm black.

1478
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,080
We love cornbread.
You got it.

1479
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,280
You've got to try it, man.
What's the place called?

1480
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:05,800
Sheldon?
Do you know I'll?

1481
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,600
I'll talk to my friend and I'll
I'll get the, I'll get the name.

1482
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,720
So there you go, Coach Pratt.
You have to get us to Charlotte.

1483
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:14,640
So.
We can go to the cornbread.

1484
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:18,640
Sally needs cornbread it.
Was a, it was a, it was a

1485
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,960
transcend transcendental
experience, like cornbread.

1486
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:24,720
That's great.
Yeah, I know we got 7 home

1487
01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,240
games.
We do.

1488
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,160
That's a lot of home games.
Maybe we may get the one this

1489
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:31,960
year.
Maybe maybe we can actually, you

1490
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,760
know, take advantage of that.
I hope so.

1491
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,720
You know, let's try 7 home
games.

1492
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,720
I know every team is different,
every year is different.

1493
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:45,240
But looking at that back half of
the schedule, you know, you go

1494
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:50,680
Louisville at home, then you go
Florida State, then you go

1495
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:56,040
Miami, then you go Virginia.
It's like really, I get it.

1496
01:23:56,040 --> 01:24:00,800
It's a, it's a for me not to
sound like a Homer, I'll just

1497
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,520
say I'm more worried about our
team than I do those teams.

1498
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,440
Florida State fucking won two
games this year.

1499
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:12,000
I think I'm not too much worried
about what Florida State has

1500
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,160
going on.
Maybe, maybe they come back next

1501
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:16,600
year and they go to the
playoffs.

1502
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:22,040
I don't know.
Miami had a a very, very good

1503
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,080
quarterback this year and we
took them to the brink of the

1504
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,360
end of the game.
So Carson Beck.

1505
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,520
He's ugly.
He ain't worth. $4 million.

1506
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,880
I don't know how he's going to
play, but nobody ugly.

1507
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:36,400
They get.
What is that?

1508
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,240
Does that sound right?
Yes, I'm like, oh, you're

1509
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:43,000
talking about that place.
A good place as as Pinky and

1510
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,400
Merits.
It sound like it's good.

1511
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,200
I don't even know what it I
don't know if that's the same

1512
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,640
place, but it sounds good.
You're looking at I want to eat

1513
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,480
that.
I'll close it down.

1514
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:59,760
We get a traditional Thursday
with Cal great or Thursday or

1515
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,240
Friday.
I'm sure when it comes out it's

1516
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,720
Friday, everybody will bitch and
complain about it being on a

1517
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:09,000
Friday.
But like, overall, it's it's

1518
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,120
like fairly balanced up until
the last month of the season.

1519
01:25:13,440 --> 01:25:15,120
Like, like, you know, you go
through, it's like, well,

1520
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,080
Georgia Tech should probably be
a tough game.

1521
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,840
NC State should probably be
rebuilding the beginning with

1522
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:26,320
South Carolina and Vanderbilt.
But like you asked me to key in

1523
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:30,680
on a date, I think what happens
October 11th down back in

1524
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:34,920
Atlanta tells the story of the
team middle of the season.

1525
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,080
Like I think that's the that's
like the that's the pivot game,

1526
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,640
I think.
And if it's a year to if if good

1527
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,520
things happen there, we're
sitting here having good

1528
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,240
conversation.
If not, we're talking about some

1529
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,480
new coaches, potentially more
people being fired.

1530
01:25:47,480 --> 01:25:50,080
So there we go.
All right, anything that has

1531
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,800
happened in the last hour and 25
minutes, gentlemen, y'all want

1532
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:58,280
to share?
I don't see anything else out

1533
01:25:58,280 --> 01:25:59,640
here, man.
I think we're good.

1534
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,000
All right.
I did confirm it is Merch Soul

1535
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,040
Food in Charlotte.
So thank you, Rob, for bringing

1536
01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:06,560
that up.
I totally forgot the name of the

1537
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,040
restaurant.
So we'll have to get, we'll have

1538
01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,560
to get Tally there sometime.
We're gonna get Tally to merch

1539
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,000
because we're gonna go to
Charlotte this year.

1540
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:15,520
One way show get.
The merch baby.

1541
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,000
Get the merch.
All right.

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With that, that wraps up this
episode of the Boundary Corner

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podcast, brought to you by
Counts Family Pharmacy in

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Blacksburg.
I am Curtis Wilson.

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I'm Brian Siegler.
Joe Katelli.

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And I'm Sean Moss.
We are part of the College

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Shuttle Network.
Visit our website

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boundarycornerbt.com to listen
to all of our episodes.

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Check the merchandise shop out
while you're there.

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Follow us everywhere.
Y'all know where we are?

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Twitter, Facebook, Instagram,
subscribe on YouTube, also

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favorite podcasts or somebody
asked me today are y'all just on

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Spotify And like no, we're on
all of them.

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So whatever you like to listen
to, we can get you.

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If it's one we're not on, let us
know.

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I'll get us on there.
Absolutely.

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If it is one we are not on,
please let us know because that

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really is going to bother Brian
for a while.

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If if he's missed a podcast
source that we have, we could be

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on.
He will definitely get it on

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there.
As always, our buddy Jason Long,

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he plays us in.
He plays us out every week.

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Chest his website
jasonlongmusic.com out for all

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his latest stuff.
Man got called back into

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emergency wrestling coaches over
the last few weeks.

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So I don't think he's had a
chance to listen in, but check

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out his Spotify, his YouTube
pages.

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As always, we appreciate all
y'all out there listening.

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Y'all have been very
entertaining in the chat tonight

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and as always we appreciate
y'all and let's go.

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Hokey.