V for Vicktory

Your boys Curtis and Brian interview special guest and Hokie legend Dwight Vick. Dwight discusses the changes in perspective amongst VA recruits since his playing days, what pitch helped Virginia Tech land his commitment, his thoughts on the JC Price hire, what Virginia Tech can do to improve their success in-state, and why a return to a nationally relevant rivalry with UVA would be a good thing for Hokie football.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast with my partner

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bronzy glow, I am Curtis Wilson.
Run tonight, we have a very

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special guest 1994 to 1998.
This gentleman played offensive

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lineman, he was a second-team
all-big East team.

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Captain also part of to Big East
championships of Hampton High

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School in Hampton, Virginia,
poke great.

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The white Vic Dwight.
How are you tonight?

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Oh man, it's awesome.
And I'm glad to be on this is

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going to be a lot of fun and I'm
doing great.

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I'm going to pin the 703 Nova
snowed in well more, so I can,

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but I'm only down, you know, I'm
I'm ready to talk everything

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Tech and whatever comes about,
that's awesome.

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Do I?
Yeah.

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Appreciate you jumping on with
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You know, we were iced in as
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I was lucky enough to get today
and tomorrow off.

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From work.
So it's kind of been some bonus

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long weekend for me.
So I'm loving it even though I'm

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not really traveling that much
so it's all good.

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I don't even want that man.
Right now, I'm here in the 804

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with Ron and I've got to wake up
and work in the morning from the

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house so he can sleep in and
everything 8 the way before we

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kick into, you know, Virginia
Tech.

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You know the question we have
for you, the stories you have

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for us you know obviously
Victory Life.

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It's You, it's such a big part
of you.

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So, you know, go ahead, tell us
what you guys are doing with

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that about your podcast.
Yeah I appreciate man the

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opportunity to speak.
I'll be brief man but I created

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Victory life.
Now about three years ago,

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Victory Life, LLC VI C KT, o Ry
n just for your listeners and

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followers of your great podcast.
I'm not an egomaniac.

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I just went with Victory life
because I really like the name

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and I'll put my last name in it
because it embodies everything

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I'm about.
Plus if you Google Victory like

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they're a lot of churches and
nonprofits so I was like well

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I'm not changing my name so
there There has to be IC K and

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it.
But essentially, man, you know,

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we have my organization, I have
a Victory Life LLC, which is

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high school, internship program,
life skills, groups outpatient

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counseling and I am believe it
or not a licensed therapist.

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And you know I also do mentoring
for kids in Prince William

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Fairfax, County fall Carroll
County and even in surrounding

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areas in Northern Virginia and
also help kids with Ladies as

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far as mental health diagnosis
and anxiety and depression, you

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know, kids who have Oppositional
Defiant disorders and just hope

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people young men and young women
and their families, get back to

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function at a high level and
just getting back to where it

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needs to be.
So something I'm very proud of

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something and I am body growing
up and especially tighten my

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skills up at Virginia Tech.
When I was there, you know, I

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Montreal model, you know, that I
may serve.

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So And then I have my nonprofit
Victory like you Sports, which I

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had three, a, you organizations
under.

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But it's not just more so about
basketball, it's more so about

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helping students reach their
full potential academically and

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athletically through community
service competition and also

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giving back and paying it
forward near local community.

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So the last several years, I've
been really blessed to be part

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of something special and build
my brand and then obviously I

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have to podcast which You know,
it's funny, I'm not I don't ever

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view it as if I'm trying to get,
you know, a bunch of listeners

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and followers.
I just like to run my mouth.

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So I have a podcast called the
Victory Life.

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Legacy podcast with Danny noakes
my co-host.

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He's down in Richmond and 80
for.

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Shout out to my brother, Danny,
who I met through my longtime

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friend?
Kyle Bailey, he introduced us.

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Funny thing is, when I did the
2013 spring broadcast spring,

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I'm broadcast.
Always the color analyst up in

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the booth up in Lane Stadium.
He is peeing. 3 did, and I was

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the color analyst and Danny
knows who's the producer my

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first time meeting him.
And then later on, we end up

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doing the pregame show and now
we have the podcast and I have

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my more popular podcast which is
the Victory.

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Life Legacy Spotlight, where I
interview some great people, not

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just athletes but cancer
survivors, I had the great Lisa

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weather.
Going on, the Virginia Tech,

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women's basketball.
Great.

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Who's in The Sports Hall of
Fame, Ace custis.

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And Rouse DJ Parker, of course,
my cousin, Michael Vick's, been

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on there for UVA followers.
I had Terry Kirby on.

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There's a great session, you
know, a mod Hawkins Marques

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Hagan's, who's a wide receiver
coach at UVA and a lot of High

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School coaches here in Virginia,
you know, Troy man's, the form

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of Virginia Tech guard, who was
a standout?

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Great Lauren Johnson has been on
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I can't name anybody but we got
a YouTube channel so you can

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check it out.
Subscribe to it please.

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I don't get any money.
I just like the legacies of the

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people that come on.
They're very inspiring stories

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and interviews so you can follow
us that Victory Life YouTube,

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just go to YouTube and type in
Victory Life and you'll see it.

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And of course, the podcast I do
with Danny, I post on Twitter,

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we're only on Soundcloud.
Like I said, I just like being

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able to talk sports talk.
Like one thing we doing Legacy

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Spotlight, is we allow other
people to Showcase their

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Journey, their story, knowing
that one thing I do with Danny,

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on the one we do is we highlight
people in the community who

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Inspire and make make the world
a better place.

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Man.
I know it sounds corny like a

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Whitney Houston love song, but
really I'm here to inspire make

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people smile and have great
conversations.

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That's what I live to do.
So Victory Life, to those people

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who bought hoodies and t-shirts,
I State the support.

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I come from humble beginnings.
And I just want to give back, I

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had a great career.
Now, I'm just trying to finish

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off and have a great life.
You are an inspiration and what

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you do with Victory Life, things
I've read and like you say

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helping the kids, I, you know,
you've got your Master's in

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counseling, you do great things,
man, and for us to have you on

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tonight, we are humbly humbly
honored to have you, someone who

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does such make a difference in
the community.

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So, One who does do all this
stuff but someone who we got to

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see play as kids.
You know, when you started

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playing at, Tech is about the
time we started watching, so in

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obviously the name Vic and a few
years, you know, Michael comes

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along and Marcus.
And then you start looking back.

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As I know I did and I'm a nerd
of Virginia Tech football the

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white.
Don't follow me on Twitter and

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you know, seeing you make
comments and stuff.

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Now before we get into being
text, I've got one personal

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thing.
I want to hit on, okay, because

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I know, And please Hoops for
Patriot High School.

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I know they made it to States.
Well no.

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Do they help you ship?
They would have went to States

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but this year because the covid
only the ones who the winner

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went normally do.
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So yeah.
Should have been in the States

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but pink but your son is a
freshman, I'm young.

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How did that was the Freshman,
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force first year?
You know, that's a great

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question.
And I have three kids morons, my

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youngest she's a Cars. 10 years
old, she can she can run for

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days.
She does the 400 200 Otis is

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Sydney, and Sydney, is up here
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They're going, it's interesting.
She goes to a different

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hospital, not saying because of
zoning and when we moved and she

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didn't want to transfer the
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So she's at Unity read, high
school, he plays ball Club head

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at her school and she's she's
you know, she wants to play

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collegiately and she got some
interest from some schools.

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She Virginia Tech's on her wish
list or school.

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She wants to get an offer from
so So and then, but Isaiah man,

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he's my only son, he's my middle
child and he's a freshman and he

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made varsity as a freshman just
like Sydney didn't just like I

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did when I was in high school
football, but Isaiah played

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football growing up man.
As far as you know, 8 7 9, 10

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years, old 11 but he also played
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basketball.
His body is, he's got my height

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but he's got my old metabolism.
Though he is, if you see him on

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TV or you watching playing look,
he's built like Kevin Durant or

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more.
So Brandon e.

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He's like right now it's about
62 and a half, six threes, 14

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will be 15 in May of this year,
and he plays for a great great

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coach.
Who I love to death?

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Coach Sherman Rivers, who is the
head coach at Patriots built.

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A great program.
That's been there about five

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years.
When a district four years in a

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row, been two states themselves,
he's been closed and He played

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ball that Potomac, High School
in Northern Virginia, he also

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went to women, marrying play
collegiately there and he played

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overseas.
So my son is very blessed.

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And I think when it's all said
and done between Sherman, his

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coach and my son and his hard
work ethic and his skill set,

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he's gonna have a chance to play
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If, you know, of course, you
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Stay on top of his grave stay
healthy, but he's long athletic.

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You know, it's interested, man.
You know, having no Vic in

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basketball, Would be kind of a
change of pace because we've all

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kind of picked up the pigskin.
Although, there is another Vic

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at Tech right now.
She is a cousin of mine.

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She's on the women's track team
kaliesha Vic, you know, people

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forget about, but, you know,
Isaiah could be a next one up,

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man.
And I had a follower, I wish I

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could remember, his name was
really cool.

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I don't know who it was, but he
said, can you imagine a vig

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Jersey on campus or another Vic
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And I don't normally get all
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Eric.
I'm a patient person that comes

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to appreciating the journey and
you never know how things work

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out, but I am spiritual.
And I do believe things happen

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for a reason.
He even how I ended up at Tech

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and how I recruited Mike and
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But, you know, my daughter and
Isaiah, my two oldest went

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there.
That would that would make me

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emotional.
That would be crazy and you

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know, I am a huge Lord knows.
I love Mi kyung.

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Gosh, I mean, how do you not
like him?

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I if I hope I'm perfect.
Like I'm not just talk is

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amazing.
I just and I want to call them

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up and say, hey I got a son, you
know, can you get it?

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Oh but I mean nepotism is a good
thing but the same time he's got

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to earn that specially Tech is
not just, you know, some doormat

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program.
I mean, you know, he's he's

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built on buzzes done.
So yeah, my son is, you know,

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having a son is and having kids
is a blessing and having my son

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who, Wants to be great and I I
purposely have exposed him to a

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lot of Grace.
He's been very fortunate.

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You know, I for years until
recently I have been to the

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spring game, like 18 years to 16
years straight or whatever.

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Can going back to played and
he's got pictures.

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And he's been around, you know,
Mike and my cousin and Marcus

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and DeSean Jackson, and he's,
you know, throwing the ball with

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Tyrod Taylor and he's been
around a lot of great.

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Guys, from Virginia Tech and
even other colleges and other

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professionals.
So him and my children, my other

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two children, all they know is
greatness and scholarship

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athletes in Pro.
So he doesn't really get

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Starstruck.
He's been around Beamer.

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He's been around Foster and
Cavanaugh and he's been around

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other great culture.
So for him, the expectation is

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always been like okay, you know,
my dad went here.

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Now I'm going to go here, but
you mentioned when I played, I

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think it's funny too because Cuz
he doesn't.

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He just now understanding the
Legacy that Mike and I and

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Marcus had and also he's
starting to give me a little

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credit for being good.
Like he used to be like you

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because we didn't have Twitter
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So my stuff is now being
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pull out the VCR tapes and get
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So like he's looking like, yeah.
You know, you really weren't

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that good.
But then we go back to campus or

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when he sees my followers.
And then, you know how they

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react and you know how I
interact and how I do so much

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stuff and their reaction when we
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here in Northern Virginia and
when I'm back home in Hampton

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people come up to me and take
pictures or I'll sign some.

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He's like bro.
Wait what?

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I've got two sons.
I got a baby girl on the way in

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about a month.
Awesome.

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My man Brian's got a son as
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So we are Fathers as well and it
is it is it is being a father is

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nothing like it.
It's a special referee.

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Congratulations.
Yes that's awesome.

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And I wanted real quick and we
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What's so funny?
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So I have three kids want to
girls want some of.

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I remember when I was pregnant,
everyone's I all I know you on

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this and I was like, nope, they
were like what she wanted, a boy

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first cuz she did want to do
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mean, I daughter because I, you
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And I knew my daughter she was
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I needed somebody to make sure I
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My so I seen adored his love for
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You know, my son and I to but
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breakfast and say, well, you
know, you can make something put

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in the microwave like, you'll
forget, you know.

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I'm
so let me ask this.

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Getting back to your playing
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it's 1994 covid hips.
You've signed your letter of

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intent to play for Tech but
there's going to be a spring

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season there guys right now have
to make this decision.

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Would you have played?
Oh man y'all coming out the gate

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with some hay maker questions.
Listen.

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Who, you know what?
Not knowing any better.

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I don't know.
Wow, that is a tough question.

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My gut reaction just off the
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The rip is I'm going to play
Because when you're I was 17,

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you know, it's funny, looking
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I probably should have started
the following year.

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I was 8:47 grade.
But I was 17 my first year at

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Tech and I turned 18 late.
So I had that September

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birthday.
Where wife is my wife, my mom is

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an educated.
She's been teaching collegially.

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In high school wise for 40-plus
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So, I mean, she was like, you
know, all into all that get him

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in school or whatever.
So, but for me, I would covid

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scary.
I lost a few people to it, but

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and I respect, what caliph Ali
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Even though, God, I love
watching him play but knowing me

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as a freshman that was a real
was a redshirt 94.

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I probably would have went
anyway, you got to understand

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something.
I know you guys.

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Been following Tech since I
played and you follow the state.

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When we hear from where I'm from
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Virginia in the Tidewater area.
If you've been to places on the

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south side of Richmond, if
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News, or South Norfolk Youngs
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places in the Commonwealth,
even, you know, rural places

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like, you know, parts of
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I mean, we always talk about the
urban, but when you come up and

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I had a great life, great mom
and dad, but as far as what is

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scholarship, Any means you don't
take that for.

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Granted so knowing their minds
that I had, you know, I had

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tunnel vision.
Yeah, I was and you know

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Hampton, I knew you know, night,
grab me harshly.

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I was a backup intent grass
started and I started getting

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letters from Pittsburgh and
Nebraska and Syracuse and

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Oklahoma.
I was like wow!

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This is what I knew it I was
like I'm going to go to college,

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I'm going to go pro.
So even though covid came if

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hypothetically speaking, I
probably would have went anyway

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because I don't even like you I
can't stay home because if I

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stay home you know nothing's
going to be popping off here but

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drama not that I was involved
anything - but you know we don't

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have a path or a goal unit up
getting complacent.

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Next thing you know, you get get
caught up so I probably would

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have just went and cross my
fingers and pray and hope that

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everything worked out because I
loved I just wanted to be in

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college.
God knows with all this

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responsibility I have.
Now sometimes I wish I can go

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back but But I probably would
have went, you know, I like that

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answer.
I really, yeah, I think

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sometimes looking looking past,
as you said, getting complacent,

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I don't hands can can get you in
trouble from time to time.

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So, yeah, I definitely see where
you're coming from.

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From that perspective.
No, doubt, I wanted to ask you

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this next, you had tweeted out a
while back.

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Talking about, who was
recruiting the 757 back when you

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were being recruited.
I mean, he talked about guys

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like Calves high beam or Stein
spring What was their pitch to

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get recruits to come to VT back
then?

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Oh, great question.
Um, it was really about building

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something and going against the
grain, you know, because UVA at

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the time was still the Pre-Med
program, protect was on their

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heels and it wasn't manufactured
height and you know, Beamer in

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height and even guys like stiney
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They weren't Salesman like, you
felt like it was authentic and

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what was really good as they had
relationship.

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So I've talked about this
numerous times and I'm in

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business and, you know, I work a
lot of principles and

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psychologists and psychiatrists
and coaches across the state and

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well-respected, and it's all
sincere, it's give and take, but

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it's a lot of respect and that's
what you felt like.

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When you saw those coaches
walking your school, you saw how

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the other High School coaches,
the custodians, the Death.

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Dad was like, Hey and get up and
hug them, you like, oh wow, it's

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not just like I'm some bigwig
from this, you can, you felt

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like whoa, these guys really
know.

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My, my administrators and high
school assistant coaches in

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basketball coaches.
So it was really cool and their

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pitch was more so we are trying
to build something and you know

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what's funny?
This is not to pick on UVA.

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When London was there, I've been
of you might London, he's a

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great guy, but I tease my UVA
friends.

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I said You guys fix a too much
on Tech.

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You know, we got a bill,
somebody got to take the cup

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back, I get it I get it.
That streak is crazy and looks

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like another one that be getting
re started again but at the same

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time it was never about UVA when
I was being recruited.

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You know it might have come up
but it was more so about we're

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trying to build our own brand.
We want you to be part of

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something and it was a lot of
State pride and it was really

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just about Their relationships
with your High School coaches

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and also the fact that, you
know, to be honest, I just

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mentioned a few minutes ago
about where I'm from.

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I didn't grow up, you know, it
wasn't South Central and bang

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bang and people, but it was some
rough spots and there was some

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stuff I saw in there was some
trauma, you know, when you're in

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certain parts of my area, and I
knew a lot of guys that didn't

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make it, and I knew people who
were killed, I knew drug

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dealers, but you know, what was
crazy and I tell people, I hope

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you're listening is understand.
This is respectful statement

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being And high and cab and Stein
spring, when they recruited the

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Commonwealth and some of those
rough spots that people that

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other universities wouldn't go
in.

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They went to and they went to
without fear without judgment.

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Obviously, they were to get
talent and they were there to

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recruit us to their University,
to get an education and to play

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college football.
But you could tell they were

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there and they weren't like, oh
my God, there's hurry up.

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Like, they stayed if you watch
the interview, I do it.

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Ano Whitaker he grew up in
Youngs Park.

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It's a very rare rough spot in
Norfolk and time spring was in

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there and went there religiously
to recruit him and sat down and

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hung out.
And you know, the thing about

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Beamer, I remember when I got
home and my younger sister, he's

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three years younger than me and
I got home from basketball

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practice.
And it was my senior year and I

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came and had my batter drop
along.

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She was like hold on one, she's
like Dwight there's a dude here.

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Some old dude, with another
dude, I was like what are you

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talking about?
Is it then a living with Mom and

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Dad?
I don't know.

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But I you know again I'm being
on she's like I think they're

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rich because they had own suits
and some big boom.

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And she said it looked like you
know those Mafia you know and I

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was like Kim what do you think?
So cuz he's Point anyway so then

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I Gordon and Bemis it's up and
he's like hey how you doing and

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just shakes my hand and I'm like
you could feel the energy him

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and height and hide have been
recruiting me.

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That was the only year highly
recruited the Hampton Roads area

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because they were going through
a transition and he end up going

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back to the Maryland area
because you know he's a DeMatha

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guy so I was fortunate height
was a great recruiter and he is

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still even now just so authentic
and I don't know if I'm

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answering your question fully
but I think sometimes people on

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Twitter and on these message
boys, think it's this, you know,

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because of social media you
know, it's a lot of mail and

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balloons and girls with long
legs and pretty skirt.

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It's that young Yeah, that's
going to be part of the pitch

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when you get on campus.
Yeah, but the foundation with

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great recruiters are laid doing
those phone calls and text

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messages.
And when they come as I

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mentioned, when you saw how they
were in the building and how

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they talk to your mom and Dima
man, was just so cool.

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And one last point about that, I
met you, my mom was an educator,

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my both, my parents have their
masters.

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My dad is a doctor.
Yes, his doctor dr.

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Norman Vic.
Both of them being

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college-educated when Beamer and
Heights that down in my living

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room.
Once I came in there, they

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surprised me at home.
They did a surprise home.

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Visit my mom pulled out a list.
Yeah, 20 questions.

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And she asked coach Beamer and
Coach height and many of the

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questions was about race
relations on campus security

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supervision, academic support
crisis management

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accountability.
Leti fund, and I was sitting

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like, Mom, why you ask mom was
right?

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He was but Beamer without any
admin, you know, without anybody

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prompting him, he answered every
question.

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Like a g, and he knew what he
was talking about and only one,

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he didn't know.
He was like I'll make sure I get

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back to you on that, which he
did.

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He got actually called her the
next day.

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I'm telling you, man.
I know it's old school but the

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principles are I'm discussing
right now with relationships are

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still relevant.
Now, I think that's where some

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programs fall short is that you
got to have the right people in

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the right regions, but you got
to make sure what they're

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authentic.
Doesn't mean going to get every

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standout recruit, but it's going
to give you that blueprint now

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Foundation where you see, right
now with what's the kid's name,

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Jordan Williams?
He returned to Tech, right?

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He's the grant transfer because
he knew he really liked tag.

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You know, those are the things
that we don't think about but I

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just feel like that's what start
spring.

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What's the ice cream, man?
Tech fans were always, never

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give him his full credit.
He's always the subject of the

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memes and jokes because he's an
offensive coordinator text

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love-hate relationships or
offensive coordinator is

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forever.
Going to be a give love hate

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relationship, but God spring.
If you do what y'all do a

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podcast one day only.
His recruits and who he landed

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from tap to Kam Chancellor and
so on and so on, it's ridiculous

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and Stein.
Spring is loved.

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I interviewed him he was on my
show and Rabe like commented.

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He was like, I love this, man.
And Tech was my second School,

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my second choice, but he wanted
to go to Carolina, and he loves

441
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:07,400
times, you know, me guys, come
up to me.

442
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,400
I mean, out of after my Mike and
Mike, Vick interview star

443
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,900
Springs interview on between
Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.

444
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:18,700
Is gotten thousands of in looks
and interview.

445
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:22,800
I mean, it got shared twenty
thirty seven times on Facebook.

446
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,000
I mean he is that's and that's
what he is.

447
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,600
He's genuine.
That's why I used to laugh when

448
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,500
people wanted him gone because I
don't think they understood and

449
00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:34,600
I don't blame some fans because,
you know, we have knowledgeable

450
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,800
fan but it's not spring is
another guy, man, he's going to

451
00:26:37,808 --> 00:26:39,800
be love these genuine, he gets
it.

452
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:43,500
I just think that relationship
piece is essential in any line

453
00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,600
of business, especially The
spores write something.

454
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:49,700
So let me ask this then you
actually kind of pivoting

455
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,300
perfectly to my the next thing I
want to bring up what's the

456
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:58,900
difference right now between
Virginia kids 1990s, when you

457
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:02,200
were coming up and we were
growing up in kids.

458
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,500
Now, you know what sort of the
make sure I put this right,

459
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:10,800
what's the perspective on text
from Virginia kids parents, 20

460
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:13,800
years ago?
They know more, they're more

461
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,200
knowledgeable and social media
has helped with them knowing

462
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,500
more about other schools.
I got my letter from Notre Dame

463
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:23,800
one time and I was a big Irish
fan and I Had a nortre Dame

464
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,500
jacket because they know I was,
I love Tony Rice and the rocket

465
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:30,600
and that is sand bets and all
those different guys.

466
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,600
They had taught fight, you know,
you just like another name you

467
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,700
know and I'm living in Hampton
Virginia and I mean I wore that

468
00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:40,400
jacket, you know I'm walking
around Hampton and Newport News

469
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,500
looking like a super-sized wash.
With a low on.

470
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:48,700
And and I remember my dad said,
you like them, don't you?

471
00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:50,200
He was like, you know what, it
located?

472
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,000
I was like, nah, man.
But I'm going, you know, and he

473
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,800
was like, nah, I'm in 10th or
11th grade.

474
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,700
And he pulls out for those
listening, they're going to

475
00:27:58,708 --> 00:28:03,100
laugh at our old school, the old
G's listener, and encyclopedia,

476
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:06,400
and he blows the dust off, and
he opens it up, and it's like,

477
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,700
this is a map.
You live here in Virginia Notre.

478
00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:14,000
Dame is in Indiana and You know
you start back then do it now

479
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:19,900
you get those media guys and the
media got, you know, you saw how

480
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:24,400
they had a lot of white Vic's,
you know, a lot of Dwight VIXX,

481
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:28,900
you know, on their roster and
long story short, man.

482
00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:34,000
These guys now are just more
knowledgeable.

483
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,200
They are more aware and I don't
think, especially with the dip

484
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:44,900
in wins with Virginia Tech, you
know, eight, when In 75 and six

485
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:52,200
it's two folds in the 90s we
were we were not we were the

486
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,000
best kept secret.
The Tidewater area was producing

487
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:03,500
tons of talent and now you see
the benefits between all the

488
00:29:03,508 --> 00:29:08,200
great players and the great
colleges now that come down

489
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,000
there, you know, Virginia guys
have been leaving on the State

490
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,600
Fair.
Ever, you know, Ron Springs went

491
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,100
to Ohio State know, maybe, you
know, I forgot where Ron Springs

492
00:29:19,100 --> 00:29:22,400
is, but he's Shawn Springs, Dad,
but he went out of state, he

493
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,200
went to Lafayette High School,
Lawrence Taylor who went to

494
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,200
Lafayette High School from the
Tidewater area.

495
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:35,000
Went to UNC obviously and Dre
blah, who went to UNC and you

496
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,600
had romaker who was the only
player to win national Gatorade

497
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,200
Player of the Year and all in
football and basketball and he

498
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,300
The McDonald's All-American in
basketball.

499
00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:47,400
He won three state championships
at Hampton High one, national

500
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,500
championship in football and one
state championship in

501
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,500
basketball.
So this notion that, oh my God,

502
00:29:53,500 --> 00:29:56,000
Virginia players.
Always leave that now, they've

503
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,100
been leaving.
The difference, is the Virginia

504
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,400
that we know, compared to what
we grew up and is no longer.

505
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,300
The best kept secret, Ohio
state, Alabama, Clemson the

506
00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:10,200
bigwigs they stay down there.
Now, Penn State.

507
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:12,200
They live down there.
Every now and then.

508
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:16,000
I pluck a player from my area
now and it's not just Tidewater

509
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000
it's Loudoun County.
You see a lot of those guys, go

510
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,300
to Stanford.
The West Coast, Northern

511
00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:22,200
Virginia.
Kids are going out of state.

512
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:24,300
And the other thing is, there's
some other layers to it.

513
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:27,100
The state of Virginia has
improved dramatically.

514
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:30,100
You look with LJ's doing Lauren
Johnson and Holly Springs

515
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:33,600
Veronica.
The Richmond area was always

516
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,700
known for basketball but now
that's not the case anymore.

517
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:38,600
There's some suburbs of
Richmond.

518
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,200
The Chester Chester feels the
surrounding areas have

519
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,300
Dramatically Northern Virginia,
Westfield one.

520
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:46,600
The state's three years in a
row, used to be the Tidewater

521
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,900
Richmond, show, and football and
basketball, that is changed as

522
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:52,500
well.
All that combines with

523
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,700
unfortunate, Virginia Tech and
UVA picked their worst times to

524
00:30:56,700 --> 00:31:00,700
fall off.
Yep, they did its best to you.

525
00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:02,500
Yeah.
I mean, it UVA has been

526
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:07,400
rebuilding for years and for
years Tech benefit, you know,

527
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,600
Tech benefited for years because
they're, you know, you look at

528
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,800
that.
Five team, I believe their

529
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,400
entire defense starters, that
were ranked number one in the

530
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,700
nation or maybe that was 07-08,
but pretty much most their stars

531
00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:26,200
were from the Commonwealth and
2005 and 06 07. 08 Virginia Tech

532
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,700
was signing and getting
commitments from the some of the

533
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:34,700
best players in the state.
And then when you have Allen

534
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:38,600
Iverson's the place, the code
versus the moniker is a Tyrod,

535
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,200
Taylor's and all these guys,
Mike Vick they start to emerge.

536
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:47,000
Crews have become household
names, all the sudden it's the

537
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,000
perfect storm and what makes
things bad.

538
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,900
If your Virginia Tech fan is,
you know, as the transition took

539
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:57,100
place from bheema to Fuente
people pick on Fuente that you

540
00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:00,100
know the cynics and critics but
at the end of the day the last

541
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,200
three or four years of being his
tenure weren't the best.

542
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,100
You had a lot of six and six
seasons.

543
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:09,700
You had that one 85 season where
they got blasted in the Sun Bowl

544
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:11,400
against UCLA.
Yep.

545
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,800
And It's just not a good look.
It's the worst time.

546
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,000
Consider this during that time
frame before.

547
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,300
If Wednesday took over, you had
a lot of guys that would have

548
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:25,800
kept Tech afloat in that
National brand.

549
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,500
Peace.
If they had chose Tech, but Tech

550
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:32,400
kept finishing second, you had
the Devon Forbes and the Ricky

551
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,300
Slade unions.
But you also had to Sean hand,

552
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:42,600
Derek naughty daily homes, and
all those guys pick Now, the

553
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,800
school and Tech was always
second.

554
00:32:45,100 --> 00:32:49,700
Even your boy that went to
Florida State the tall defensive

555
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:50,500
end.
I forget His Name.

556
00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:53,000
Escapes me, that went to Florida
State.

557
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:59,000
Yeah, yeah.
Do your worst.

558
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,500
Mistake of his life was going on
there.

559
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,400
Oh, I'm sure I'm sure because
they told me he was going to win

560
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,700
number two and I'm like yo and
your body wearing Dion's number,

561
00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:16,400
what they say come on.
Detective rain coming home, you

562
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,400
know wearing number two.
No sir.

563
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,700
You know I'm saying.
So like I visited, you know.

564
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:27,400
But I give Florida State and
Ohio, State and Alabama, and all

565
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,200
the schools Credit, you know,
Dasani and I was with him,

566
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,100
people don't realize this, his
first unofficial visit or visit

567
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:38,200
to any University.
He followed my wife, and I are

568
00:33:38,208 --> 00:33:41,400
down with his high school coach
at Virginia Tech I introduced

569
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,300
introduced.
To can Chancellor and Tyrod

570
00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:47,400
Taylor.
I interviewed him on cowbell.

571
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,200
He's radio show at the spring
game.

572
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,100
The same day, Chuck Clark
committed.

573
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,600
Tim said, oh, was that my
football camp?

574
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,200
You know, I used to do football
camps.

575
00:33:56,500 --> 00:33:58,900
So I was doing a lot of high
school subject in homes.

576
00:33:58,900 --> 00:34:00,600
There's a picture on the
internet with me, him and Mike,

577
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,300
he was at my Symposium.
I did all those guys I mentioned

578
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,200
were at my football camps.
The only one we got was Tim

579
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:10,100
settled and look what Tim said I
was doing for the Virginia Tech

580
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:12,000
brand and also look what he's
doing.

581
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:13,800
For the Washington football
team.

582
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:17,100
Now, just imagine Tech gets the
rest of those guys even gets

583
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:18,400
three more of those guys with
Bud.

584
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,699
Foster still in his prime, the
perception of Virginia.

585
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:24,900
The perception changes, you're
going to win more games

586
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:27,400
obviously.
But the perception changes

587
00:34:27,699 --> 00:34:32,300
because to finally answer your
question when I walk around now

588
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:35,600
with my Bowl rings and my
Virginia Tech gear on, I'm, you

589
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,000
know, I still get how you played
a tech but it's not like it was

590
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:43,900
19 years ago, okay?
Because Really cares about is 6

591
00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:49,900
and 16 people now are looking
at, you know, the January 6,

592
00:34:49,900 --> 00:34:51,400
Bowls the New Year day,
whatever.

593
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,300
The, I don't know what day they
cuss, like they keep coming on

594
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:56,600
later and later, but the point
I'm getting at is if you're not

595
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,200
relevant relevant and if you're
not in the mix outside of your

596
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,500
fan base, it's pretty hard to
make an argument.

597
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:08,200
While you know, you're not meet,
you know, we are dead team now

598
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:10,600
and people walk by, you know, I
know covid.

599
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,100
The the sports bar scene is
different.

600
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,700
Different.
But we are that gang when people

601
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:15,500
say, why are they showing that
game?

602
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,000
That's what we've become.
Yeah, and it's okay.

603
00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:23,600
Huh?
What you saying is?

604
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:27,600
If you have the album Davis
mentality, it's just win baby.

605
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:30,800
You start winning exception
changes.

606
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:35,400
Boom, absolutely look.
And this is not me being

607
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,100
critical.
This is just me being honest.

608
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:41,900
I deal with a lot of people and
I don't want that to be the

609
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:44,000
case.
So, for everyone, listen, I

610
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:48,300
wanted to be what it used to be,
but better, I want I want, I'm

611
00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:51,400
you think I don't get excited
when I see Khalil Herbert or

612
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,500
these lineman that a little
first round draft.

613
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,800
I want, I don't have a pile of
seeing why.

614
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,000
It's why I tell her was that my
can I know why it, you know, he

615
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,400
wore 57.
You know why I tell us my God.

616
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,600
Like you think I'll take it
personal that, he's better than

617
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,300
me.
I want the program to win the

618
00:36:08,308 --> 00:36:11,800
championship, I'm not the old
head that's like, oh, we were so

619
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:12,900
much.
Tougher.

620
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:17,300
No, no.
I want, I mean, but at the same

621
00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:22,300
time, when you're part of a
program in which you built, you

622
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:25,000
know, and you made the standard
what it is when you were there,

623
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,000
when the lunch pail was
established when you are, you

624
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,500
know what it took.
And, you know, now the

625
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:35,600
expectations have dropped
because of, you know, variety of

626
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,400
reasons.
You just wanted to get back and

627
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,200
become better.
You wanted to get back to where

628
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,400
it was and then become better
and That's the part like I told

629
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,500
you guys Offline that hurts
because, you know, that's my

630
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:49,100
program.
That's my University.

631
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:52,100
I invest in him emotionally
financially, I care about them.

632
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:56,200
I don't want to see anybody fall
off, but I think when you are a

633
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,200
Virginian kid man, Virginia Tech
still Virginia Tech, still holds

634
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,900
wait, it's still a, you know,
hey, a great University and to

635
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:06,100
school people check for like, oh
yeah, text in here.

636
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:09,900
That, you know, then, but it's
not sometimes what we think it

637
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:13,700
is.
And I think, Daddy only changes

638
00:37:13,700 --> 00:37:17,000
if you start like for example,
this morning I did I probably

639
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:26,200
have about 60 games DVR.
I mean I got it this morning you

640
00:37:26,207 --> 00:37:29,400
know, you know, I don't do it
just to analyze them break down

641
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,700
tape.
I just sometimes watch because

642
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:34,300
you missed stuff.
And today, I had on the Virginia

643
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:36,100
Tech.
Wake Forest game, Virginia Tech

644
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:39,800
was three and one Wake Forest
was to and to last year,

645
00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:42,600
Virginia Tech, be the rank Wake
Forest team that It was really

646
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,100
good.
They weren't great.

647
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:45,800
Yeah.
But Virginia Tech expose them

648
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,600
and it just looks good.
When you beat a ranked team this

649
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:53,000
year Tech was three point three
in one in law, said, the empty

650
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,700
wakes that Wake Forest, you
Stadium.

651
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:59,500
You can't you can't lose those
games, you can't lose.

652
00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:01,900
That's the type of stuff.
I mean when you know perception

653
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:06,500
it's like the acc's week it all
it is is Clemson, you know.

654
00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:09,500
And Virginia Tech used to be
that team.

655
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:13,900
And what makes me upset
sometimes is Why Clemson was

656
00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:15,700
getting their stuff together
with that bow?

657
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:19,000
You know going for back from
Bowden Tommy Bowden to devil

658
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,700
when he was the interim and try
it out and Bobby Bowden was in

659
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:25,400
the same situation as Frank
Beamer.

660
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,000
And Jimbo was a coaching waiting
Virginia Tech for several years.

661
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,900
Carried the torch and the banner
for the ACC.

662
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,300
Yep.
They were the big hair didn't

663
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,400
win the conference.
They were going to BCS bowls,

664
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,800
and they were the standard, and
then a game in, which I was at

665
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,400
2011.
And Tech going for back-to-back.

666
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,600
ACC Championship Games, Clemson
limped into that game having

667
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:54,200
lost four out of five or three
out of four and therefore, they

668
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,600
smoke Tech.
I was there.

669
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,800
I if I heard the fans for like
Clemson, one more time I was

670
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:05,000
going to jump off the ledge.
That's how much, you know, we

671
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,500
know what?
Clemson go CLE and they spell it

672
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:08,100
out.
Yeah.

673
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:13,800
It was raining and then we'll
maybe even worse is Tech goes

674
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,600
and plays in a bowl game and
Clemson goes and plays in The

675
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,700
Ballgame and they lost that
year.

676
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:26,500
I think West Virginia or was it?
They lost 70 35?

677
00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:29,700
Yep.
They got their doors off 73rd

678
00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:32,500
and be a year.
Virginia Tech that year was 11

679
00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:36,900
and 2 and they only to record
and losses was to Clemson.

680
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:41,200
One at home, LED bulbs, that by
my brother, Tajh Boyd and the

681
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,100
ACC team.
The game and coming off that, I

682
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:47,600
just knew Tech was going to win
because they are just beat one

683
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,800
of uva's.
Best teams in program history.

684
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,700
38 did nothing.
Yeah.

685
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:56,200
And you know what, this on hand
told me who was in the NFL, who

686
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,900
was an All-American played at
Alabama?

687
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,300
You know, we talked all the
time, he loved, but Foster this

688
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:04,000
on hand told me out of his
mouth, he's he laughed because

689
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,100
the next week London and his
staff, we're at Woodbridge,

690
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:10,100
senior high school to recruit
him and he was like, coach, I

691
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:11,800
really respect.
You are showing them after that

692
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:18,700
shellacking.
You know what?

693
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:24,000
Great.
You know, a little jab at them.

694
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:27,100
Yeah but the perception to your
question.

695
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:33,300
Deshawn hand who was rated top
five in the nation, Derek,

696
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:41,200
naughty Jalen homes Josh where
that'll and I'm probably

697
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,400
forgetting some my all those
guys were that was a legendary

698
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:48,900
defensive line class, right?
I think Joshua came the but the

699
00:40:48,900 --> 00:40:51,800
point I'm getting at, is they
all knew about Virginia Tech all

700
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,900
wondering wanted to go there and
were considered Virginia.

701
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:57,300
Tech means the perception is not
that way anymore.

702
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,800
That's how far are we from?
That's not this on hand had Tech

703
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,600
is his number one choice and and
said Bill Bud.

704
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,800
Foster was his favorite coach
and recruiter.

705
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,800
That is to show you.
And remember that's not that

706
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,700
long ago.
Thats 2014.

707
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:21,300
I'm Excuse me. 2011 sorry 2011
it's not that long ago at all.

708
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:25,000
Like I remember the hand thing
and everybody talked about Bud

709
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:30,300
Paul auster and this is I'm
going a little tangent here and

710
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:32,500
the white if you need to tell
me, step down, tell me step

711
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:33,900
down.
Are you Brooke?

712
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:39,000
Basically, he told Deshawn hand,
you're going to play inside and

713
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,700
somebody said, saving, I don't
know if this is true or not, but

714
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:45,100
apparently they negatively
recruited and said, you're an

715
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:48,800
end, Sean hands in the league
right now, where's he at?

716
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:54,700
He's playing on the inside right
now and I mean, do I don't know

717
00:41:54,707 --> 00:41:57,400
if you recall that but I could
you, I remember seeing hands

718
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,600
body and Like yeah, he's a bond.
What technique would have been?

719
00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:04,600
And you probably talked about it
10 years ago.

720
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,600
Are you brave enough free Tech.
Well, here's the deal.

721
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,500
Both Foster's honest coach.
And before, you know it, did it

722
00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:15,800
a day I work just on hand out,
he was at my me.

723
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,400
And the guy by name is Keenan,
Carter, who's a defensive line

724
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,900
coach at women?
Married, with Mike London,

725
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:23,600
played at UVA.
After I played a tech was a

726
00:42:23,607 --> 00:42:26,000
great player for them.
He coaches collegially.

727
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,500
He also coached at Howard
University, Him.

728
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:32,500
And I used to have
afternoon/evening workouts up in

729
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:35,500
Northern Virginia and Patriot
High School and also Potomac

730
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:39,800
High School where he went
Deshawn hand Tim settle and if

731
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,600
you are the local guys, Greg
Stroman, was there a lot of guys

732
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,900
that went to ODU and other
schools that were from Northern

733
00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:47,100
Virginia?
Would be the Ricky Slade was

734
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:48,500
there?
I know his dad very well.

735
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:52,700
My point being is all those guys
love Tech.

736
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:56,100
They used to have textured so
and stuff like that their

737
00:42:56,100 --> 00:43:00,100
trainer I know very well.
Well, he trained to shine.

738
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:03,200
I'm not gonna get into specifics
about what saving did.

739
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,800
I'm not about to put that out
there and have allegations

740
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,000
flowing but I know what I know
saving did the same thing that

741
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,800
Jimbo did the night before Josh
sweat committed.

742
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:17,600
They played the game.
They just, they know again

743
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,900
coaches.
These guys played the game and

744
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:24,400
they played upon Beamers age,
and the fact that Virginia Tech

745
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,900
was slipping and wasn't the same
dominant program.

746
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,500
And they played that with a more
sexy program and they just told

747
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:33,900
those guys what they wanted to
hear.

748
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:38,000
People don't realize, it's on
hand didn't start until his

749
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,900
senior, at Alabama, he did win a
couple national championships

750
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:44,200
and he had, he still contributed
those previous Seasons but he

751
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,900
didn't start to see here.
I told John great up when he

752
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:49,700
asked me, what made might choose
tech.

753
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:53,200
I told him, why?
And I said, dude, you know, if

754
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,300
you go to Virginia Tech, man,
you are going to build a statue

755
00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:58,600
of you.
I mean, you, you know, He loved

756
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:03,000
Foster's defense, he loved but
Falls, he he like brought buds,

757
00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:08,200
you know, realness his Charisma,
he like Bud.

758
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:13,000
But you know, Alabama came in
and did what they had to do and

759
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:17,700
you know he is inside and you
know, it's just it's but I, you

760
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:19,700
know, fans come to me all the
time on Twitter.

761
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:21,700
You know what this Tech need to
do.

762
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:24,100
We got to get this guy from
Stanford.

763
00:44:24,100 --> 00:44:26,000
He's a great recruiter.
Look at it.

764
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:29,000
I'm like, listen.
I'm I going to dismiss or

765
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,000
debate, anybody on this to
recruiting argument, everyone

766
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,800
has different theories,
whatever.

767
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:37,700
The one thing I look at every
year is peeing, 24/7, and Rivals

768
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:41,000
list their commitment list and
whatever, with the exception of

769
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,200
Miami who gives great talent and
they will get Talent until you.

770
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,100
And I are we're all dead and
gone.

771
00:44:46,300 --> 00:44:47,800
All right?
Because that's the, you won't.

772
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:52,300
Yep.
But when else is winning every

773
00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:56,100
no listen, everything else is
when you're nine and one and

774
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:58,000
ranked 12.
So you were playing for

775
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:02,100
Conference Championship and your
own, in Prime Time games, those

776
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:05,200
tenth and ninth graders who yet
to get offers, but they're, you

777
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,700
know, they're going to be top,
prospects are watching.

778
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,600
They're looking at a certain
point, I believe you.

779
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,200
And I used to write actively for
24/7 Sports.

780
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,300
I've been of you guys like,
Tyrod Taylor Marshawn Williams,

781
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:22,100
Ricky Ricky Slade, Junior, Ricky
Walker and even all them.

782
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,200
I'm for my calling back in the
day and they all talk about

783
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,800
watching, Brandon Flowers, and
Um, Chancellor and Chris Ellis,

784
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,800
they paid attention because Tech
was ranked in the top 10, top

785
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,900
12.
Yep, you know, and that's,

786
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:39,800
that's the correlation, Virginia
kids haven't changed that much.

787
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,600
Yes, social media to stay is
grown.

788
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:45,800
Northern Virginia is busting at
the seams Richmond area is

789
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,300
growing Short.
Pump and Chester those great

790
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:50,100
place Charlottesville is growing
new.

791
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:51,900
Can't all that.
You can talk at the state's,

792
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:54,800
Virginia is a beautiful state
but the one thing that hasn't

793
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,700
changed people want to be
relevant, kids want to be

794
00:45:56,700 --> 00:46:00,100
relevant.
You know, that's why everyone

795
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:01,100
was shocked.
Oh yeah.

796
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:04,200
One year, when UVA was able to
land, Quin Blanding smoke

797
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,600
mizzell and Andrew Brown, you
know?

798
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:08,100
Because they were like, hold up
man.

799
00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:11,600
You guys aren't even going to
bowl games, you know?

800
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:19,700
But I know, but I will say, this
is my guy and his brother, Paul

801
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,300
is my guy to my London to this
day has great relationships with

802
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:26,100
people.
He's got great relationships.

803
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:27,800
He's at, that's a great.
He's charismatic.

804
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:29,700
That you can talk.
He's funny.

805
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:31,800
He's, you know, you feel like
you can trust him.

806
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,000
Whatever it is, we did that.
And I told people that and, you

807
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,100
know, it's funny those guys, I
mentioned smoke mizzell he was

808
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:43,300
high on Tech and you brown was
attacked leans.

809
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:46,300
He again he was part of that
class with this on hand and all

810
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:53,300
those guys and we missed on all
of them except for Timmy, you

811
00:46:53,300 --> 00:46:56,600
know but at the same time $20
guys.

812
00:46:57,900 --> 00:47:01,000
New about Virginia Tech is
Virginia Tech was relevant that

813
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,400
kind of says it.
All right, there with with the

814
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,400
perception, you know, winning
definitely helps.

815
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,800
But we've also seems like we've
kind of step back a little bit

816
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,600
on some of the relationships.
We have especially getting guys

817
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,900
in the high schools at the
consistent level.

818
00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:17,700
Especially the relationships
that you were talking about

819
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:19,900
that, you know, beaner and
height and stiney.

820
00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:23,500
We're doing when you were
getting recruited, but we

821
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:26,200
lately, we did get some news
with like, some preferred

822
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,600
Walk-Ons from some Some schools
that we had in necessarily had a

823
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,000
lot of success with lately,
particularly Jabari Parker with

824
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,600
Holland Springs there with ya
Johnson is stuff like that is

825
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,100
that something that can really
help kind of heal.

826
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:43,100
Some of those those areas of
strife, they would kind of

827
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:45,800
popped up with with the high
school relationships for us.

828
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,900
Absolutely listen.
If I wasn't tight with Lauren

829
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:53,100
Johnson, he's the best high
school coach in the state of

830
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:59,000
Virginia, okay?
You know, I'm saying?

831
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,700
So like this guy, Lauren, you
get a couple of Holland spring,

832
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:04,500
guys, because here's the funny
thing about it.

833
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:09,400
Perception again to guys, I
know, Lauren Johnson his

834
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,700
players.
Greg Dortch and Kevon Wallace

835
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,700
wanted to be Hokies and look
what they did on the Collegiate

836
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:18,400
level.
Just look.

837
00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:22,600
I remember only when I remember
when Kevon got the call from

838
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,400
Clemson, he was like, no, I
want, I want to go.

839
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,400
I'm all about today.
Trust me, trust me.

840
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,300
I know.
This for the be Lauren Johnson

841
00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:32,000
and I are tight.
He dated my sister only football

842
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:36,900
player of my teammate, I let
date my sister that's all he's

843
00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:38,800
married.
Now to another girl named Kim

844
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,600
and they had a beautiful family
including a son who took offered

845
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,100
me first off.
Yeah, so did the date it was he

846
00:48:46,107 --> 00:48:49,900
got to do that like tech tech.
You got to get those guys that

847
00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:55,000
want to be Hokies that maybe the
had three stars and get them in

848
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,500
the building and eventually you
create momentum and Pipelines.

849
00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:01,600
You saw in the late 90s and
early 2000s.

850
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,100
Those pipelines from Western
Branch from Deep Creek, from

851
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:09,000
Phoebus, from Hampton, from
Bethel, you know, from Western

852
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Branch.
You know, the Holly Springs the

853
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,400
Hopkins Brothers Macho because
they saw their older teen years

854
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,800
in juniors going there and they
say, wow, they're playing,

855
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,900
they're happy.
I'm gonna go there too.

856
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,100
And then, then what happens is,
you're winning.

857
00:49:23,300 --> 00:49:26,900
Text already going to kill it
when it comes to food lodging

858
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:29,000
presentation.
Because it's a beautiful campus,

859
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,100
that sells itself.
You don't the crowd Hokie

860
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:35,400
Nation, the loved a show.
Now, you got a formula for

861
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,400
success, and I think that's
that's the relationships right

862
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,200
now.
And I think to be fair to Fuente

863
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,700
and his staff, the Dead period
covid.

864
00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:49,700
You know, tap who would had a
plan who I know he did.

865
00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:51,200
I talk to tap?
That's my guy.

866
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,200
I think they were going to be
some great things done, but the

867
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:00,600
Dead period has killed not just
A lot of colleges that need to

868
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,700
get guys on campus versus a
program, like Clemson in Ohio

869
00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:07,700
state that can sell itself.
Yeah, but I think you get those

870
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:10,700
guys in your walk on.
You get these guys are even

871
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,800
commit or guy, like Jordan
Williams.

872
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,200
You get those guys and playing
well and they keep advocating

873
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:19,400
because when they go back to the
game when they go home for

874
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,400
Thanksgiving and Christmas break
and they go back home, they

875
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,300
going to recruit and soda
program for you because when

876
00:50:25,300 --> 00:50:27,700
they're walking around the mall
there at the basket.

877
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,700
Ball court in the waiting room
and you're like that's Jordan

878
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:33,200
Williams and he's got the tech
tank top and shorts on.

879
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,900
He's liftings like yeah, that's
what happens.

880
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:40,900
Nice to go back home and I mean,
no, me and Mike will go back

881
00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:43,200
home.
Will you be at the old Coliseum?

882
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,200
All a new market Mall here in
the barbershop you walk in with

883
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,400
your Virginia Tech.
Bowl game, sweat suit on your

884
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,400
fitted cock to the side, your
Bullring gleaming and your bag.

885
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,600
You like yo y'all get like that.
Yo, what's good?

886
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,100
And all seven people like me?
It is you for it for the fans

887
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:05,100
and the kids who are up next.
That's how you create the

888
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,700
connection that dynasty.
That, that whole, I want to be a

889
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:12,200
part of it.
It can't just be a coach.

890
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:16,100
It's got to be your perception,
your players who are currently

891
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:19,400
there, who would like, yo, like
look at Oscar Smith, another

892
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,400
pipeline, JC Coleman.
He was on my on my, on my show

893
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,700
and he talked about how he would
come back and he got a lot of

894
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:30,500
guys there they come.
To Tech from Oscar Smith, you

895
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:31,600
know.
Yeah.

896
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,200
And you know he talked about
covid and I feel like for a

897
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,000
school like Virginia Tech for a
team like Virginia Tech that's

898
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,500
really trying to recapture some
of that momentum on the

899
00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:44,900
recruiting Trail covid.
Just was like the worst possible

900
00:51:44,900 --> 00:51:48,400
time because like I said,
getting kids on campus is like

901
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,300
it's part of the battle and
being able to put tax plan in

902
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:54,000
place for getting back in the
high schools, the way it was

903
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,700
done before.
The, all of that was something

904
00:51:56,700 --> 00:52:00,200
that could Help with that
perception with that momentum

905
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,300
going into 21.
And now, you know, we've got a

906
00:52:03,308 --> 00:52:05,800
dead period this now extended,
what through the end of May.

907
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,000
So yeah, I don't even understand
that.

908
00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:12,500
I don't.
Yeah, that dead parrot thing is

909
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:14,100
good.
I mean, I don't know, it's

910
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:19,300
weird.
I do think though, if we can

911
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:22,800
hopefully have this spring game,
I don't even know if that's

912
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,600
going to happen or some type of
showcase.

913
00:52:27,700 --> 00:52:31,600
This or something where Tech and
get in front of somebody kids or

914
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,100
vice versa.
So I think you're going to get

915
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:36,000
some more kids.
I just love the changes, they've

916
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,200
been doing in the offseason, I
don't really get hype about a

917
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,100
lot of stuff in the offseason
because you never know.

918
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:45,600
I mean, you never know with
attrition DUIs in eligibility

919
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,800
academics, you just never know.
I mean, it's the that's what

920
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,000
makes it beautiful the unknown,
the unexpected.

921
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,000
That's also, sometimes when
makes it painful and detrimental

922
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,700
because they are known.
We don't know what we can build.

923
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,700
Which is why Vegas has so much
money.

924
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:04,800
But at the end of the day, I
guess I do like the higher, like

925
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:07,500
the people who are in blacks
were right now.

926
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,900
Because I think, you know, when
that day period is they know,

927
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,500
from what I know and talking to
people Pearson pray those on

928
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:17,500
that staff.
We played together for years at

929
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:18,800
Tech.
That's my brother.

930
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,900
Justin Hamilton is my guy.
I know they won and went and

931
00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:27,100
they get it and they were there.
They know what it takes but

932
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,600
their hand Cuff right now to
some degree with covid.

933
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,000
It's a it's it's a tough
situation and make no mistake

934
00:53:33,008 --> 00:53:34,400
about it.
You know.

935
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,000
I lost some clothes people to
covid and I'm sure you guys know

936
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,300
some stories as well.
And may have lost a few, it is

937
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:41,500
serious.
I'm not going to get political,

938
00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:43,900
I don't know.
It's it's real.

939
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:46,100
You can feel like it's whatever
hopes.

940
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:50,100
I know, it's real and small
businesses and a lot of people

941
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:53,000
have been affected and I'm just
praying it eventually gets

942
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,000
contained and we get back to
some normalcy because for me,

943
00:53:56,300 --> 00:54:00,200
just, you know, football and
sports, especially Virginia Tech

944
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,800
Spring Game, all that stuff for
therapeutic for me and so many

945
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,900
other people and hopefully, you
know, we can get over this hump

946
00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:10,800
and get back to, you know,
getting guys in that stadium and

947
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,700
seeing that place where I can
again, 100%.

948
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,900
We got to attend that first
spring game, the first year of

949
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:23,900
Jetson valente's 10 year and it
was great me and this guy we

950
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:26,100
drove up we drove back down.
Hit all the spots.

951
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,400
I'm going to say a couple things
while I jump to my next

952
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,600
question, you mentioned Jordan
Williams a lot of people get on

953
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,300
to Wednesday like he doesn't
have personality yada yada,

954
00:54:35,300 --> 00:54:37,400
whatever Jordan Williams said
something.

955
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,500
When he came back he basically
he said Tech was the runner-up.

956
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:43,500
He's like the relationship I
forged with coach for Entei was

957
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,300
it held a lot to me and it was
almost like the way he said and

958
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:52,200
when I saw the opportunity you
know Clemson's bringing people

959
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,700
in and I'm seeing less
opportunity.

960
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,400
I still have the relationship
with the head coach.

961
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,300
So as you said before it matters
and the perception our head

962
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:04,100
coaches getting, maybe it's,
maybe it shouldn't be that way

963
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:06,600
because of those words from
Jordan Williams, but you

964
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,000
mentioned tap.
Now, he's going to the NFL of my

965
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:15,100
49ers Speed him, but man, let me
tell you, Um they brought in

966
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:18,000
your teammate.
Somebody you have interviewed on

967
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,500
Victory Life JC price.
Yes sir.

968
00:55:20,500 --> 00:55:25,900
How do you feel about him coming
in and you know I'm assuming

969
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:27,800
he's going to probably pick up
the reins of a lot of what

970
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,600
Darryl was going to do.
Jason price is a man's man, he's

971
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,200
your defensive line Mommy, I can
tell you right now.

972
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,500
JC price is a guy you want to
play for and you know they

973
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:42,800
upgraded because tap was
energetic.

974
00:55:42,900 --> 00:55:45,500
Take knowledgeable, insightful
and was with it.

975
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:49,300
You see the 49ers grab them so
he knows what he's doing but to

976
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:52,700
be fair he actually probably is
in that same position and

977
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:55,500
probably more knowledgeable and
experienced because he's been

978
00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:59,900
coaching longer, he was on the
staff and he led the way when

979
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:03,400
JMU gave took one of the biggest
upsets in college football

980
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,000
history of the Year Tech won the
ACC in 2010 led by Ryan and Ryan

981
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,600
Williams.
So at the end of the day, the

982
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:14,300
guy knows tank and he can coach
and you know, You don't you

983
00:56:14,300 --> 00:56:17,400
looking you, people say oh you
know, he was at a mid, you know,

984
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,800
made Marshall.
Look, you don't make Marshall in

985
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,900
JMU relevant by not knowing the
landscape of his State and

986
00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:27,600
getting players that wanted and
some should have gone to.

987
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,300
Okay God do your homework.
When you talk about these guys

988
00:56:31,300 --> 00:56:36,500
on Twitter, JC price was it was
definitely a great hire when it

989
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:39,000
comes down to it, man.
No Fuente.

990
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,800
You know we all be critical man
because it's tough on.

991
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:46,200
On a ledger and he, you know,
the timeout is past year against

992
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,700
Liberty.
Oh my gosh, I felt for him.

993
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:52,900
I was pissed.
But I fell for, you know, I made

994
00:56:52,900 --> 00:56:53,900
mistakes.
Yeah.

995
00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:55,400
Oops.
I made mistakes as a player.

996
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,500
I mean, how many times you know,
it has allowed me to feel bad

997
00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:00,600
when he got called for holding
and they gave the winning

998
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,200
touchdown.
I mean, or lll go.

999
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,000
Shayne Graham talked about the
do Mi, so he missed a field goal

1000
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,200
that would have wanted to beat
us in Miami beat Miami and Miami

1001
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,200
Linden winning in overtime, but
he felt awful that whole week.

1002
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,000
Edited a man, you know.
Listen it happens.

1003
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:19,700
I think the whole personality
thing is tough because went a,

1004
00:57:19,700 --> 00:57:25,200
when you he doesn't he doesn't
come across well on TV the same

1005
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,900
way dabble does you know dabble.
You know to sometimes can be

1006
00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:30,200
corny.
That's me.

1007
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:34,900
He is you know, you know but his
players love them and they'll

1008
00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:38,300
you know, they're go to bat for
him and they fight for him.

1009
00:57:38,300 --> 00:57:41,100
And he's able to convince guys
that shouldn't come back to come

1010
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:42,800
back and pursue a national
champions.

1011
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:46,100
Ship and and that and Fuente is
just got to be him.

1012
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:49,800
And to be fair, you know, the
Beamer you guys saw a late in

1013
00:57:49,808 --> 00:57:53,500
his career when he was turning
his head and dab it and dancing

1014
00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:57,400
and dancing in the locker room
and UVA that Beamer didn't exist

1015
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:08,600
when I was at tank.
If you remember what he looked

1016
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,500
like, he would kill somebody on
the sidelines.

1017
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:17,000
Same word as JC Coleman and
Brandon Flowers and Chris Ellis.

1018
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,900
God was not to be.
We were there when he was

1019
00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:24,400
building when he was on the hot
seat, when he couldn't afford a

1020
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,100
laws, you gotta understand
something.

1021
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:29,200
That's what I'm saying looking
for into now and if he stays and

1022
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,300
keeps winning, he'll be a lot
different.

1023
00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:35,200
Then you got to be careful when
you compare because Beamer

1024
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,000
doesn't come across as man.
This guy's killing a room.

1025
00:58:39,300 --> 00:58:43,500
You know, if that's not Beamer
but the same time you Seeing now

1026
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:46,100
with his little dog, Frank,
Hank, whatever, and he's walking

1027
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:49,000
around, he's cracking jokes and
he's always been a funny guy

1028
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,600
that would roast you on the low
and he's always been, you know,

1029
00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:54,400
highly respected and just
someone you want to be around

1030
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,900
and he was all, he's always been
funny but you know, early in his

1031
00:58:57,900 --> 00:59:02,000
career which I was there for, it
wasn't fun and games.

1032
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,400
You know, after big wins.
He might let's go and throw the

1033
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,400
fist in the air and hug, guys,
whatever.

1034
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,800
I mean, we beat Miami for the
fourth year in a row, in the old

1035
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,000
Orange Bowl went before Became
Pro Player Stadium or whatever

1036
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,500
it's called.
Now, I don't think name and

1037
00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:18,500
Pizza Hut RS.
I don't know what it's called

1038
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:22,000
but you know, we beat them back.
Then I remember in a locker when

1039
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,100
I was elated and I'll hug them
and I was just like cause we

1040
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:26,600
won.
He was like, Hey, great when you

1041
00:59:26,607 --> 00:59:30,000
know, I was like, okay, you
know, like he was, he was, he

1042
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,800
was different.
You get older become a grand dad

1043
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,800
and Shane's now, a man and doing
it.

1044
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,800
You your looser, you know, your
job secure, you can run, you can

1045
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,100
let your guard down a bit.
You know, he wasn't doing the

1046
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:44,400
Nae Nae Ane.
All that dough, Millie WAP, and

1047
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,400
all that stuff, you know, when
we would are.

1048
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:53,100
So In fairness of Wednesday,
he's not going to be doing all

1049
00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:56,400
that right now.
He's not going to come on TV and

1050
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:01,500
crack jokes because In fairness
to him everything now on Twitter

1051
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:06,000
and social media is used against
him even if he slips up whether

1052
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,900
it's a timeout or he missed says
someone's name or you know he's

1053
01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:12,700
guarded about who he's going to
start.

1054
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:15,300
You know, it's just going to be
his, everything's, you know,

1055
01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:17,100
we're on edge, because Hokie
Nation.

1056
01:00:17,100 --> 01:00:20,400
If there's a fan base, that
deserves a national championship

1057
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,600
and deserves answers and
deserves wins, its Hokie Nation.

1058
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,300
I mean, you look at the Red Sox
before they got over the hump

1059
01:00:28,300 --> 01:00:31,000
that Cubs the Cavaliers and
basketball.

1060
01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:34,500
Virginia Tech has suffered
Decades of.

1061
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,200
We almost had them like the
dollar and that insurance

1062
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,300
commercial.
We have almost had it so many

1063
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:43,300
times the Matt Ryan You know, go
back to my years, the temple

1064
01:00:43,300 --> 01:00:46,700
game on the goal line, we're
ranked 14th, we win that game.

1065
01:00:46,700 --> 01:00:50,900
We jump in the top eight, you
know, the laws against Kansas,

1066
01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:54,500
you know, in the Orange Bowl and
Brandon Brandon or sit out the

1067
01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:57,800
first half because of Team
violation, rules Tech has been

1068
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:02,900
on the doorstep for years and
now with the offense of talent

1069
01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:06,000
and the offensive scheme,
whether we want to admit it or

1070
01:01:06,008 --> 01:01:08,100
not, we made it up in our mind
that we're going to be in this

1071
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:10,800
National Championship especially
when we come out the gate.

1072
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:16,500
Eight in 2016 and take Clemson
to The Verge and we get down

1073
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:17,800
there.
If what they said after the game

1074
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,000
he's going to go for two and you
got Bucky and Isaiah for you

1075
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,900
like man, Clemson is Clemson and
we won the coastal in his first

1076
01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:29,200
year and we did it to myself
with the expectations.

1077
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:33,600
So now, you know, I don't think
Jordan Williams is lying, you

1078
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:34,400
know?
Ask me.

1079
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,300
I don't think Ashley's line
Richard Ashby.

1080
01:01:36,300 --> 01:01:39,400
I don't think Pablo's.
I don't think Stan Rogers a

1081
01:01:39,408 --> 01:01:40,800
line.
That's their coach.

1082
01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:44,500
I think he's just guarded, I
think he's just going to get,

1083
01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:49,900
you know, be who he is.
And I don't really care if he,

1084
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,100
you know, didn't speak.
And just talk in Sign Language.

1085
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,000
I just need wins.
Okay.

1086
01:01:55,700 --> 01:02:01,700
They, you know, I, you know, I
mean, you know, do I want a more

1087
01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:04,400
personal for?
Yeah, but there's a lot of guys

1088
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,200
who are great and press
conferences and they haven't won

1089
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:09,200
anything in four years and got
fired.

1090
01:02:09,300 --> 01:02:12,600
Yeah, you know, the fine line.
Between being charismatic, but

1091
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,100
still losing in the fourth
quarter.

1092
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:15,500
I don't care.
Oh my God.

1093
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:17,400
I just don't want you going out
there and losing the weight and

1094
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,100
getting blown out of pit.
Boom.

1095
01:02:20,100 --> 01:02:23,900
And look at this, do you think
do you think savings trying to

1096
01:02:23,900 --> 01:02:26,000
be around?
We don't know.

1097
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,400
I mean his pressure is he looks
like he hates the fact, the sun

1098
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,900
is shining, but at the end of
the day, his players love them.

1099
01:02:32,900 --> 01:02:36,300
And the fact is he's win.
So he can kind of be like that.

1100
01:02:36,500 --> 01:02:40,700
It's funny because Belichick now
when he was winning so much I

1101
01:02:40,700 --> 01:02:42,600
know that Pros, but everything
was gray.

1102
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,800
He could be that way.
Now you start losing.

1103
01:02:45,300 --> 01:02:47,900
You know, it's viewed
differently because losing does

1104
01:02:47,900 --> 01:02:49,700
that.
I said this one time on another

1105
01:02:49,700 --> 01:02:51,200
show.
Maybe.

1106
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:52,800
I think I tell you say that to
you too.

1107
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,800
You know, losing ages.
You everything looks bad.

1108
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,400
You look worse, winning, we
Cuban eight.

1109
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,100
You everything looks better
food, taste better.

1110
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,900
The Outlook is brighter.
And you know, Forte just, you

1111
01:03:05,900 --> 01:03:09,400
know, him and his staff of got
to win and it's the what have

1112
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,700
you done for me lately world.
And as far as his personality,

1113
01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:16,600
you know my guys in the burger
told me they loved them but

1114
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,900
false or not talk one time.
He said, Vicki if you ever met

1115
01:03:19,900 --> 01:03:24,800
him you know you would like him
a lot, you know, he told me, he

1116
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,900
reminds me a lot of Frank.
So I trust both Foster.

1117
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,400
I just think right now we
combine our frustrations with

1118
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:38,200
the losing or inconsistencies
and then it's human nature for

1119
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,100
anyone when something's not
going, right?

1120
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:42,600
We all need to find Someone or
something to blame.

1121
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:45,700
And I think that's what happens
especially in sports.

1122
01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:49,000
And there are too many variables
just to blame one guy.

1123
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,100
But when you're the head coach,
that's the way it works.

1124
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:54,500
And especially when in people's
mind, you make enough money

1125
01:03:54,500 --> 01:03:59,300
where you should be doing better
and it sucks but it's the way it

1126
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:01,600
is but hopefully things change.
I know.

1127
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,600
That's a contingency of fans
that think it won't and there's

1128
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,000
some that would think it will.
I'm a wait-and-see guy.

1129
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,200
I choose to be optimistic mostly
Time.

1130
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,000
I'm a realist though.
I think right now we got to play

1131
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,200
better and we got to have a
better football like you and it

1132
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,100
better identity during the
season.

1133
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,500
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.

1134
01:04:21,300 --> 01:04:25,500
During the season, there were
points in time last year where

1135
01:04:26,100 --> 01:04:29,200
you know, there were certain
parts like in the UNC game and

1136
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,400
then there were certain ways we
play defense against Clinton

1137
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,800
that me, and Brian literally
said that team showed up on both

1138
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,700
sides of the ball every week.
We would be running for the

1139
01:04:38,707 --> 01:04:40,900
national championship.
It was the consistency.

1140
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,600
Distance eut in consistencies
back and forth.

1141
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,300
I'm gonna ask one more about a
coach.

1142
01:04:46,300 --> 01:04:50,500
Well, coach analyst whatever.
Any thoughts on John tenuta?

1143
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,300
I don't know if you know him,
you know.

1144
01:04:53,300 --> 01:04:57,200
He's got a son playing down
there, he's been everywhere.

1145
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,600
It seems as a DC or as a
football coach and he

1146
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,900
relationship with him.
And if so what do you think of

1147
01:05:03,900 --> 01:05:06,600
the higher?
I don't know to know her

1148
01:05:06,700 --> 01:05:08,600
personally but I think it's a
great hire.

1149
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,900
I say this, you know, people
that, you know, again want to

1150
01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:15,200
find criticism.
Well, he's at UVA guy.

1151
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,500
Well, here's the thing, but
Foster when he was trying to be

1152
01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:20,000
a coach he interviewed for the
UVA job.

1153
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:23,900
Okay.
So, calm down, you know, day,

1154
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:25,900
you know, people don't people
don't need to understand

1155
01:05:25,900 --> 01:05:29,300
something in the offseason.
This whole robbery stuff that we

1156
01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:32,000
have on Twitter with the means
and the people getting personal

1157
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,800
into fights in the parking lot
at tailgates.

1158
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:38,100
These coaches hang out together
golf together, they talk during

1159
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:39,600
the season.
They text each other.

1160
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,400
They talk about players.
They consult one of this of

1161
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,200
business.
And if you know anything about

1162
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,900
old-school listeners, listen to
this show.

1163
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,700
Google fill our nation.
And what he did, he was the same

1164
01:05:50,700 --> 01:05:55,000
person before to neuter.
He came to Tech and help bhima

1165
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:59,400
create his Mantra on defense.
He helped create the lunch pail

1166
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,000
defense for Bud Foster, right?
So, at the end of the day, Phil

1167
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,200
H, I'll Mason was a Ernie man
to, but he came in and created

1168
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,600
that eight-man front that Boston
could but coach, but Foster took

1169
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:14,000
to the next level and made it
the lunch pail D, which is

1170
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,700
legendary in the history of
college football, right?

1171
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,900
So to neuter, is another guy and
not only do they do great work

1172
01:06:20,900 --> 01:06:23,300
in Cincinnati.
He did great work wherever he

1173
01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:27,300
went because he's a great coach
to be honest with you, man.

1174
01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:29,500
I'm already hearing.
His impact is being felt in the

1175
01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:32,400
locker room, not a locker room,
but in the office is the coaches

1176
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,200
meanings.
Justin Hamilton.

1177
01:06:34,300 --> 01:06:37,900
The right guy for the job.
I think he heard him speak.

1178
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:40,900
We saw when he was able to get
his hands on the defense, they

1179
01:06:40,900 --> 01:06:44,000
got better to statistically.
And with the eye test as the

1180
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,800
season went along late in the
season I think you got to give

1181
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,400
somebody like that a chance, you
know, to learn from someone like

1182
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,800
to neuter because I'm here
because I learned from people

1183
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,200
that, you know, when my
predecessors and mentored me, I

1184
01:06:58,207 --> 01:07:00,600
don't care what line of business
and you got to have somebody to

1185
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,400
consult and leads you and teach
you.

1186
01:07:02,900 --> 01:07:06,300
So there's nothing wrong with
That and I'll just add that at

1187
01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:10,000
the end of the day, it's a great
high for Tech man, you throw him

1188
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:15,000
in there JC price those guys on
winners then winners and they

1189
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,500
can coach.
They can coach their asses off.

1190
01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:20,600
And on top of it, they know the
game.

1191
01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:25,500
And you got to have people like
that in your building, but I

1192
01:07:25,508 --> 01:07:27,900
don't know him personally, but I
saw that.

1193
01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:32,000
And that's one of those hires
man, you know, when you sign

1194
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,900
certain players, so you hire
certain coaches We live in the

1195
01:07:35,900 --> 01:07:40,500
world where you know if it's not
impactful as far as like at that

1196
01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:42,400
moment.
I oh my gosh, man.

1197
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,700
You know, that is that's a great
higher and then you know, months

1198
01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:49,200
later a year, you know, turns
out it wasn't what we thought,

1199
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,300
right?
Like when Dwayne Lawson was the

1200
01:07:51,300 --> 01:07:53,800
quarterback of the future.
We were so hype and that never

1201
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,000
panned out, you know?
I'm saying you use.

1202
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,500
There's a lot of guys like that.
They'll Juju Clayton aware that

1203
01:07:58,700 --> 01:08:01,200
there's all these guys.
Oh my gosh.

1204
01:08:01,300 --> 01:08:04,000
But then all of a sudden,
quietly, a guy commence or coach

1205
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,200
comes On board and years later,
you're like, wow, how big was

1206
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,900
that?
Like even when we signed the kid

1207
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:15,400
that you kogai Jerrod Evans that
really wasn't calibrated, that

1208
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,000
wasn't people, didn't go crazy
with that commitment.

1209
01:08:18,100 --> 01:08:20,700
And then look what he did in the
record books for Tech, and the

1210
01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:23,899
Coastal Division title.
So I think to notice the same

1211
01:08:23,899 --> 01:08:26,700
kind of higher, I think you look
at what he does.

1212
01:08:26,700 --> 01:08:30,899
I mean, I think there was more
talk about him being a UVA guy

1213
01:08:30,899 --> 01:08:34,300
and what he said about tech when
he was on UVA staff.

1214
01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:38,600
But here's the thing, how many
fans that listen to the podcast

1215
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,600
or get on Twitter say I'm never
watching Tech again.

1216
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,100
They will never get a dollar for
me just team is trash fire

1217
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:47,300
everybody.
And then next we did like oh

1218
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:49,899
great, wind Hokies are love you
Hokie Nation, great win over

1219
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:56,200
Miami, we do, we do that.
We're emotional history of most,

1220
01:08:56,300 --> 01:09:00,000
we are we do, the noodle was a
UVA guy that season.

1221
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,300
He was talking trash bash, and
it is what it is.

1222
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:07,399
You think with my son being a
basketball, Prospect of UVA

1223
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:10,000
offered him and take, didn't I
would be singing while who all

1224
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:15,600
day during basketball season and
I like, you know, it's it is

1225
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,100
what it is.
But I mean I hope that calls but

1226
01:09:19,100 --> 01:09:25,399
anyway but like y'all you know
just answer your question guys.

1227
01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:27,500
That was a great hire.
I like that a lot.

1228
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:30,000
I did I actually that's probably
the most excited.

1229
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,100
I've been besides JC joining the
staff.

1230
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:35,399
That's awesome.
Yeah I was looking at was like,

1231
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:38,899
yeah, this this guy.
Can I feel like can do what I

1232
01:09:38,899 --> 01:09:40,700
think.
Tracy claeys was originally

1233
01:09:40,700 --> 01:09:43,800
brought in to do, but never
really seemed to have success

1234
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,399
with.
I feel like, you know, to nude

1235
01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:51,000
his role is going to be kind of
that guy to, you know, hold the

1236
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,000
mirror up and maybe even find
blind spots that Justin Hamilton

1237
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:57,100
doesn't see and kind of fill in
those areas and make him a

1238
01:09:57,100 --> 01:10:00,000
better coach in the long run.
So yeah, I definitely didn't

1239
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,100
run.
Yeah, and to your point about

1240
01:10:03,100 --> 01:10:06,300
those blind spots.
I'll tell you one that, you

1241
01:10:06,300 --> 01:10:08,500
know, I think Justin was, she
could have back, I never asked

1242
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:10,400
him about it.
But like, that Liberty game,

1243
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:14,000
many people talk about that,
time out, that coach Fuente burn

1244
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,700
for the Personnel lineups,
everything like that.

1245
01:10:16,900 --> 01:10:21,900
But prior to that, you know, the
defensive alignment where Justin

1246
01:10:21,900 --> 01:10:25,600
backed off everybody.
And then they got that quick

1247
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,100
first down, and they made the
kick, much easier.

1248
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,500
Yeah, but it was almost like
Tech wasn't supposed to win that

1249
01:10:31,500 --> 01:10:33,800
game.
Anyway, because I saw that

1250
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,900
kicker Or and after he played
Tech and he was absolutely

1251
01:10:36,900 --> 01:10:41,400
garbage.
He couldn't kick but he you know

1252
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:45,000
that's that's you know, Liberty
Liberty made a great wind, I

1253
01:10:45,008 --> 01:10:48,000
think, you know, you know, back
to your point about to new to,

1254
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,400
you know, fill in the gaps and
those blind spots, I think

1255
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:54,200
that's the fine line between
winning and losing, not just for

1256
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,500
Virginia Tech but a lot of
programs because, you know, the

1257
01:10:57,500 --> 01:11:02,600
Liberty game, the Wake Forest
game just a lot of games, just

1258
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,800
the last two seasons.
The game against Kentucky, where

1259
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,300
they had it converted wide
receiver playing quarterback

1260
01:11:08,500 --> 01:11:12,400
that was false as last year.
But there were a lot of games

1261
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,000
and if we went to his tenure,
when he gets Milan and

1262
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,500
criticized for a variety of
reasons more, so losing the

1263
01:11:18,500 --> 01:11:20,600
game.
But there were times within a

1264
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,800
game where I felt like the staff
was just a little bit off with

1265
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:30,200
their coaching decisions and I
think sometimes it's a matter of

1266
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:32,300
adjustments.
And sometimes it's a matter of

1267
01:11:32,308 --> 01:11:35,600
being lucky who's the gentleman
Brought in a few years ago from

1268
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,800
Minnesota, he's a journeyman to
the offensive consultant that

1269
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:44,300
left heel who dare Kill.
Ya, Jerry kill saw what he did

1270
01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:46,900
for our program that year.
We made the run one in the end

1271
01:11:46,900 --> 01:11:48,800
of the season.
Went out of five out of six or

1272
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,400
whatever, after the Duke
debacle, and they doing Hendon

1273
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,200
hooker as a starter bench Ryan.
Well, let's put offensive ly

1274
01:11:56,700 --> 01:11:59,500
along with Buzz, shutout
defenses, and things like that.

1275
01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:03,900
I really felt like that was a
great guy to bring in because

1276
01:12:03,900 --> 01:12:06,400
he's going To do with the nude.
Again there's going to do.

1277
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,000
Excuse me.
Yeah, yeah, definitely wouldn't

1278
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,800
kill came in.
It felt like almost like the

1279
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:13,300
offense.
Had more Direction.

1280
01:12:13,300 --> 01:12:17,600
Didn't put players and as many
bad spots so yeah, I definitely

1281
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,500
think you have to do to can do
something similar with the

1282
01:12:19,500 --> 01:12:21,000
defense that's going to be good
for us.

1283
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:23,700
Uh-huh.
I'll say that.

1284
01:12:23,700 --> 01:12:25,000
I wanted to ask you this
question.

1285
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,500
We saw a tweet come through the
other day from you regarding

1286
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:30,500
like transfer portal and stuff
like that.

1287
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,000
I'll read it to you and I'll let
you kind of respond to it a

1288
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:34,800
little bit.
Here.

1289
01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:38,100
Okay, believe me.
I know everyone has a reason but

1290
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:39,700
breath some of you guys are just
running.

1291
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,500
You know, and take things
forget, I talk about other

1292
01:12:47,500 --> 01:12:51,100
programs to and people like, oh,
Quincy Patterson.

1293
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:54,600
And I'm like, first of all,
Quincy, definitely you knew he

1294
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,800
was leaving.
That was inevitable hooker.

1295
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:01,900
Actually he I think he made the
right decision by leaving

1296
01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:05,300
because I felt like and again
I'm not now locker room.

1297
01:13:05,300 --> 01:13:09,500
I'm not in the quarterback
meeting room, I felt like with

1298
01:13:09,500 --> 01:13:13,700
him having to health issues in
the beginning and you know them

1299
01:13:13,700 --> 01:13:17,000
throwing him in the Mix and late
in that game against you and see

1300
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,900
where he just was on fire.
I'm sure he was uncertain about

1301
01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:25,000
his future, so that makes sense.
But just same time, there are

1302
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:29,300
some Tech players and some other
players across the country where

1303
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:31,700
they got to learn how to fight,
man.

1304
01:13:32,500 --> 01:13:33,600
You gotta learn how to snap
that.

1305
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,800
And I'm not talking about Floyd
Mayweather Tyson.

1306
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,700
I mean, you know, because people
two words, yeah, I'm talking

1307
01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:42,500
about fighting adversity, people
don't realize, it's almost

1308
01:13:42,500 --> 01:13:44,400
transfer from Tech.
I was a redshirt sophomore.

1309
01:13:44,700 --> 01:13:48,400
And this is back when Tech the
Golden Era of their offensive.

1310
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,800
Lineman, you know, when you
know, I was there.

1311
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:55,800
DiNapoli Derrick, Derrick Smith
tied Washington, Chris Malone,

1312
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:59,600
Bill Conti Jim Pine some of the
best ever.

1313
01:13:59,700 --> 01:14:01,700
Yeah.
Jay hey good TJ Washington.

1314
01:14:01,700 --> 01:14:07,800
Mike by an shit you talkin about
some great matte layer, David

1315
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:11,000
Candela you know.
Anthony Davis came behind me

1316
01:14:11,500 --> 01:14:13,600
that was the golden are.
I think this year you had a

1317
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,800
snapshot Of what it could be if
they keep getting guys like what

1318
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,600
they had their today.
I mean this season, but I'm

1319
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,500
playing but, you know, you're
18, 19 years are I'm like, why

1320
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:27,800
am I not starting?
I mean, I lettered as a redshirt

1321
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:33,600
freshman, I'm playing a lot as a
redshirt sophomore and I'm

1322
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,000
playing in the important parts
of the game, but you want to

1323
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,900
play more and I'm like, I'm just
as good a Janeiro and Janeiro

1324
01:14:40,900 --> 01:14:43,500
and I are brothers, that's my
guy, so it's not personal.

1325
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:48,400
So To be fair, I did talk to my
dad about transferring to

1326
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,700
Hampton University.
I was looking at JMU has some of

1327
01:14:51,708 --> 01:14:55,200
my friends that left and I
called them and they were like,

1328
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,000
absolutely.
Now that coach know you're

1329
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:01,100
interested but my dad was like,
you shouldn't leave.

1330
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,200
What are you doing?
You're playing.

1331
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,600
You guys are going to the Orange
Bowl e with ten in one.

1332
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,200
You know, you're playing, you're
contributing, you're in the mix.

1333
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:12,700
And you're, you're going to
start next year as a junior and

1334
01:15:12,700 --> 01:15:14,400
it kind of was a smack in the
face over.

1335
01:15:14,500 --> 01:15:17,100
Oh, the phone like, yeah.
Wake up, snap out of it.

1336
01:15:17,300 --> 01:15:22,200
And then we're got back to coach
height and Coach Grimes and

1337
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,200
Beamer and different coaches
talked to me, and they were

1338
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,500
like, you're not doing anything
wrong, which is very talented

1339
01:15:28,500 --> 01:15:30,700
and you just got to keep
fighting.

1340
01:15:30,700 --> 01:15:35,200
And there were some things I
needed to do better, and the ego

1341
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,900
is very powerful because it
addresses, your conscious and

1342
01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:41,500
subconscious.
He when you don't think it does

1343
01:15:41,500 --> 01:15:44,400
and the ego is the manipulator
to, because your start,

1344
01:15:44,500 --> 01:15:46,500
Analyzing bad decisions.
Yeah, yeah.

1345
01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:47,800
Well I should I should have done
this.

1346
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:50,200
I should have lead, they don't
respect you, you know it's like

1347
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,300
that angel devil on your
shoulder and the devil was like

1348
01:15:53,300 --> 01:15:56,000
you got to go, you're not
appreciating you, you know, you

1349
01:15:56,300 --> 01:15:58,500
you were from Hampton.
You you were fourth in the

1350
01:15:58,500 --> 01:16:02,700
nation by sporting news and you
were ranked and you only playing

1351
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:08,300
27 snaps.
You need to start, thank God, I

1352
01:16:08,308 --> 01:16:10,100
didn't.
Listen man, I stayed and I

1353
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:14,200
fought End up meeting my wife,
the following year, my future

1354
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:18,100
wife and was part of some great
wins, be Alabama.

1355
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:20,900
My senior year, you know, as you
guys mentioned, I'm one of the,

1356
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,600
you know, one of the best
players to play there and that's

1357
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,600
me know, William Boatwright.
So many guys why I tell her, you

1358
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,700
know, I feel like I'm honored
just to be mentioned.

1359
01:16:30,300 --> 01:16:34,700
So at the same time, some of
these guys have been lied to by

1360
01:16:34,700 --> 01:16:37,900
their trainers and 707 coaches
in their High School coaches.

1361
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,400
They're being lied to.
I mean, think about all the

1362
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:41,900
greats that stay.
Fade and fall.

1363
01:16:41,900 --> 01:16:44,600
I mean, look at the guy, like,
Greg, Boone who I saw in high

1364
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,200
school at Oscar Smith and he was
an animal and they put him at

1365
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,400
Tech at tight end.
And he was a quarterback in high

1366
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:53,300
school and they were reading
that wild turkey with him, which

1367
01:16:53,300 --> 01:16:56,300
is the text version in the
Wildcat and he had some great

1368
01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,800
runs in the Red Zone but didn't
really pass the ball to him that

1369
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:01,500
much.
He wasn't utilized like Bucky

1370
01:17:01,500 --> 01:17:04,900
Hodges and rightfully so him.
Bucky are two different types of

1371
01:17:04,900 --> 01:17:09,600
body, builds and different types
of tight ends but Greg Boone.

1372
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,200
And the Lesser College could
have been missed In his own,

1373
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:13,500
right?
But here's the thing.

1374
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:17,600
You talk to tech fans.
He was a stud, you know, it's

1375
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,800
just it's your perspective, he
was a, he was a great blocker,

1376
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,400
he was reliable.
He has some key catches.

1377
01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:25,900
He was a great and short
yardage.

1378
01:17:25,900 --> 01:17:29,300
He had to let you know, some
great runs in the red zone and

1379
01:17:29,300 --> 01:17:31,700
he was reliable.
Like I said, you know, it's just

1380
01:17:31,700 --> 01:17:35,900
sometimes you don't realize that
you are in a good position.

1381
01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:38,700
I do think some of these guys
are being misled and I think

1382
01:17:38,700 --> 01:17:41,200
some of these guys are are
making bad.

1383
01:17:41,300 --> 01:17:43,100
Decisions.
I think some of these guys are

1384
01:17:43,100 --> 01:17:46,800
running and I have no problem,
I'll say it again, like Samuel L

1385
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:52,100
Jackson, I'll tweet lie again.
You know I'm saying like, you

1386
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:56,500
know, at the end of the day I
think guys have to learn how to

1387
01:17:56,500 --> 01:18:00,700
compete, man.
I mean, Brandon Flowers.

1388
01:18:00,700 --> 01:18:03,800
Shout out to the OG when the
best that do it, the goat.

1389
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,300
In my opinion, Brandon Flowers,
today's his birthday.

1390
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,100
He was sitting behind Jimmy
Williams.

1391
01:18:09,100 --> 01:18:11,100
Who was a unanimous
All-American?

1392
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,000
You know now Brandon Flowers is
that Tech.

1393
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:17,100
You know, I'm not saying he
would Brandon but the kind of

1394
01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:20,100
player that that like him
wouldn't go and wake behind

1395
01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:22,400
Jimmy Williams.
He said I'm saying, is that

1396
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,700
making sense?
Absolutely, you know, some of

1397
01:18:24,700 --> 01:18:27,000
these guys are premature and you
know what?

1398
01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:30,000
I'm not going to do this but
I'll say it.

1399
01:18:31,900 --> 01:18:34,400
I won't get on Twitter and then
people because I don't like, I

1400
01:18:34,407 --> 01:18:37,600
don't want to make it personal,
but I'll say this, there's a

1401
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:42,400
strong track record of a lot of
guys leaving and not doing well.

1402
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,600
And you guys, you probably know
some you thinking about right

1403
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,300
now who were premature and them
leaving, and they left.

1404
01:18:51,300 --> 01:18:56,000
And again, some guys leave and
you like, hey, you need to go

1405
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,700
closer to home or, you know,
their position coach laughs,

1406
01:19:00,700 --> 01:19:03,400
and, you know what?
However, it is or but I mean

1407
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,400
like, for example.
All right, I'm going to say a

1408
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,500
name and I get it.
I still maybe you guys got the

1409
01:19:08,500 --> 01:19:12,000
scoop on what happened?
Why it is?

1410
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,300
My gosh, I'm bad with names
today.

1411
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,200
The kid he was he did it go to
Missouri.

1412
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:22,300
The receiver that dude was there
last year that with opposite

1413
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:25,700
side?
Trey Turner the receiver

1414
01:19:25,700 --> 01:19:26,800
Hazleton.
Yeah.

1415
01:19:27,100 --> 01:19:32,100
Yeah, you know, I don't know him
don't know his story but Dude,

1416
01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:34,100
you had what 10 touchdowns last
year?

1417
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:37,800
What's the?
I don't get it, you go to

1418
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,100
Missouri, I know, text regnum
it, come on now.

1419
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:43,400
I mean again, maybe there's
something going on, maybe he's

1420
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,900
got a girlfriend there, maybe
they got the education

1421
01:19:45,900 --> 01:19:48,400
department that I don't know,
but some of these guys I don't

1422
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,600
get it.
It's what I mean, it's not just

1423
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,800
about to transform Porter, it's
just like some of these guys

1424
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:57,200
just like, you know, it's a
different mindset, it's kind of

1425
01:19:57,208 --> 01:19:59,200
like a me.
You, we were all hanging out.

1426
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,300
And I was like, you know what,
tonight, I feel like Papa

1427
01:20:02,300 --> 01:20:04,800
John's.
I've had enough of, you know,

1428
01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:08,700
Domino's, you know why I want to
Gumby's Pizza, you know, I just

1429
01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:10,900
you know what was wrong with?
Not just, you know, I just feel

1430
01:20:10,907 --> 01:20:14,000
like you know, I want to travel
now I want to go check out New

1431
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:15,800
York.
You know, you just that's why I

1432
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,200
feel like some of these guys are
doing.

1433
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,900
Yeah.
You know, like I want to.

1434
01:20:19,900 --> 01:20:21,000
Yeah.
Hey yeah.

1435
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,000
Check it out.
As soon as the first sign of

1436
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:24,700
trouble, it's like all right.
Well, I'm gonna try something

1437
01:20:24,700 --> 01:20:26,400
different.
Yeah.

1438
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,200
Yeah.
There's some of them that make

1439
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,500
sense.
Don't get me wrong, because in

1440
01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:34,300
this is numerous schools,
because I look at the portal.

1441
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:36,400
47.
All the time that I was here

1442
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,800
about guys transferring some of
them you look and it's like

1443
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:41,000
they're like seventh on the
death truck but they're

1444
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,700
talented.
Their goal is in their mind is I

1445
01:20:43,700 --> 01:20:48,500
need to get on the field so
people can see me play and you

1446
01:20:48,500 --> 01:20:51,600
get that and then but then
there's guys like Hazleton who's

1447
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,100
going to be on the field and
it's like to your point.

1448
01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:57,300
Well is Damon.
We don't know the store but

1449
01:20:57,300 --> 01:21:00,500
could the backstory be, he's got
his degree, they have a good

1450
01:21:00,500 --> 01:21:04,000
master's program and he's
thinking I'm gonna probably try

1451
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,600
to chase my enough.
L dream.

1452
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:09,200
But I want to get my masters and
that universities really good.

1453
01:21:09,700 --> 01:21:13,300
So there's a different reason
then I think to your point.

1454
01:21:13,300 --> 01:21:17,000
Some guys are like, man, I'm I'm
third on the time thirst ring on

1455
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:21,500
the depth chart man and coaches.
Always riding me and man.

1456
01:21:21,500 --> 01:21:25,400
I'm tired of it to your point.
Is you make it bleep.

1457
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,200
You make a great point but I'll
just add, you know, I don't know

1458
01:21:29,208 --> 01:21:33,700
if you saw it yet but he was on
my show to Vontae Beckett.

1459
01:21:33,700 --> 01:21:37,500
All right.
Stay back behind move the top it

1460
01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:38,800
will cry.
Can't say his name.

1461
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:42,200
The kids from sailing with all
the hair and also Jalen.

1462
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:44,600
Yeah, and the Edmonds brother,
right?

1463
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,800
He was telling me this and he
got into the trouble, which

1464
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,400
everything later was dismissed
but he ended up being Conference

1465
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,300
USA.
Deep is the played a year and

1466
01:21:53,300 --> 01:21:56,800
Bud Foster actually ironically
JC price reached out to him

1467
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:59,900
after a recommendation from both
Foster and it was a marriage

1468
01:21:59,900 --> 01:22:04,700
made in heaven and he was happy
but he told me about her.

1469
01:22:04,900 --> 01:22:08,900
How he was going to stay at even
though he was behind those guys

1470
01:22:08,900 --> 01:22:11,900
I mean in Edmonds is a stud you
see what he's doing for the

1471
01:22:11,907 --> 01:22:16,800
Buffalo Bills but he wasn't
talking about transferring.

1472
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:21,100
I mean, I just think, you know,
at the end of the day, you know,

1473
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:23,700
they are legit reasons.
And I say all this, who knows

1474
01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:26,000
what my son may happen when he
may get somewhere and have to

1475
01:22:26,008 --> 01:22:28,600
transfer.
And I think the transfer portal

1476
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,100
has been good to Virginia, Tech
people Overlook that sometimes

1477
01:22:32,100 --> 01:22:35,900
because we look at who we lose
but looking for We've gotten

1478
01:22:36,300 --> 01:22:39,300
Khalil her.
Bernie other guys back the same

1479
01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:41,700
time.
I stand by what I tweet.

1480
01:22:41,700 --> 01:22:44,200
I think some of these guys are
premature and their decisions,

1481
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:48,500
their emotional, I tell kids all
the time when I'm entering found

1482
01:22:48,500 --> 01:22:52,200
to them, be careful getting
directions on your journey from

1483
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:53,900
people who've never left their
home.

1484
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:59,100
You know, you got to be careful
getting advice from people who

1485
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,400
have to two credits at Strayer
who trying to tell you what

1486
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,000
Universe you should go play ball
lat.

1487
01:23:04,300 --> 01:23:05,400
Yeah.
Heh Be careful.

1488
01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:08,900
Yeah be careful because these
guys don't know they haven't

1489
01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:12,300
been on the depth chart and
injuries happen, you know?

1490
01:23:12,300 --> 01:23:14,200
And I just think sometimes it's
okay.

1491
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:18,500
Like my son was on Varsity this
year, he played and maybe seven

1492
01:23:18,500 --> 01:23:22,600
games but he was you know,
behind Juniors and seniors and

1493
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,800
he was a true.
He true, he was a freshman on

1494
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:28,600
the varsity and I said, man just
stay ready to keep working hard,

1495
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,900
you know, learn pay attention
when you get in the game you

1496
01:23:31,900 --> 01:23:34,700
know, be coachable and but you
believe it or not?

1497
01:23:34,900 --> 01:23:36,900
Today's world we live in is some
freshmen.

1498
01:23:36,900 --> 01:23:39,900
Who would like man?
I'm not going to stay here next

1499
01:23:39,900 --> 01:23:41,700
year.
I need to be starting now going

1500
01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:43,900
to transfer to this school, to
go to this private school

1501
01:23:43,900 --> 01:23:47,400
because it's coach saw my
mixtape and I got it and and,

1502
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,200
and that's what's happening.
I'm just, I'm just over it man.

1503
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:55,100
Like when I stole that tweet,
not what I tweeted but the tweet

1504
01:23:55,100 --> 01:23:58,100
I retweeted.
I stole that from a Divan

1505
01:23:58,100 --> 01:24:02,100
Morgan.
Yeah, and I was like this number

1506
01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:04,700
is ridiculous.
I mean there.

1507
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,000
Kids just sitting there, you
know, and I get it.

1508
01:24:08,700 --> 01:24:11,700
We lost the kid, Virginia Tech
and the transfer portal.

1509
01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:16,800
The receiver out of Lafayette,
not Hazleton.

1510
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:21,900
He was the Partridge with
Hezekiah.

1511
01:24:21,900 --> 01:24:25,900
Yeah.
Now he's a he's a player that I

1512
01:24:25,900 --> 01:24:28,800
thought should have because I
used to tweak, can we get him

1513
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:36,400
some balls but then again, Trey
Turner in Hazelton and Robinson

1514
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:40,100
today.
But David Robinson was just just

1515
01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,000
phenomenal Trio receivers, how
you going to get on the field

1516
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:46,900
with them, you know.
So it works both ways.

1517
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,400
Um, and I just, you know, but I
do know some of these guys, you

1518
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,500
know, they get on here with
these subtweet.

1519
01:24:53,500 --> 01:24:57,500
So these Cryptid Twigs, you
know, time to explore my options

1520
01:24:57,500 --> 01:25:00,000
or, you know, it's been good
Blacksburg.

1521
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,100
Yeah, Brett.
Just stop it, you know, come on,

1522
01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:07,200
you know, I'm saying, you know,
just Just make a decision and

1523
01:25:07,700 --> 01:25:09,600
and and fight through some
adversity.

1524
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,100
Yes, I think some absolute.
I know it was like this for me,

1525
01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:17,300
even even playing D3.
Like going from being your big

1526
01:25:17,300 --> 01:25:21,800
man on campus in high school to
Blake, everybody being good is

1527
01:25:21,900 --> 01:25:24,900
kind of a shock to the system
and you gotta you gotta work

1528
01:25:24,900 --> 01:25:27,600
through a whole lot and you're
not going to necessarily climb

1529
01:25:27,700 --> 01:25:31,600
you know to the 2D just because
you know you were good back in

1530
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,400
high school.
So you gotta you had a fight

1531
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,600
through that and when you Get on
the field.

1532
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,000
You got to make sure you make
most of that opportunity and not

1533
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,100
not worry about what my snap
count was only 10 in this game

1534
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:43,400
or whatever it is make the most
of those opportunities.

1535
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:48,600
Yeah, absolutely man.
And and I'm not that old head on

1536
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:52,200
your show right now.
Who is like, oh man, these guys

1537
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,500
are so soft.
And we didn't have that many

1538
01:25:55,500 --> 01:25:59,000
uniform combos.
Like I said earlier, man, I want

1539
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,300
all these guys to be successful.
I want X to be relevant.

1540
01:26:02,300 --> 01:26:05,300
I wanted to be winning, and I
want, you know, Even with

1541
01:26:05,500 --> 01:26:08,700
hinging hooker, man, I don't
really care for Tennessee

1542
01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:13,700
football, but I want him to sign
it Tennessee, but they seem like

1543
01:26:13,700 --> 01:26:22,300
they're going through their own
since they in my last point on

1544
01:26:22,300 --> 01:26:23,600
that man.
And I'm not gonna be long on

1545
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:29,400
this point, but I don't know.
I don't know these young guys

1546
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,800
and I said it's because I did
know this, I don't know if they

1547
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:36,600
realize, man, you're going to
many, many of them will go and

1548
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,700
get a shot and many of them.
Some of them, not many will get

1549
01:26:39,700 --> 01:26:43,400
a chance to stay or have a
career like, Nick Source in

1550
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,000
who's now coaching and league.
But he was a special teams

1551
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:50,600
captain and played at Seattle
and got some reps and had a good

1552
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:54,300
career as a contributor and
that's fine.

1553
01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:57,200
Like, but did you get a degree
in you come back or you cold

1554
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:58,300
sore?
Start a family.

1555
01:26:58,300 --> 01:27:02,800
But I don't know if all these
guys realize that it's not just

1556
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:07,100
about the football, like I get
it because I knew like, people

1557
01:27:07,100 --> 01:27:12,300
don't realize I had a shot and I
got a call and, you know, I went

1558
01:27:12,300 --> 01:27:16,000
to the Ravens minicamp and the
Patriots called might go forth

1559
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,500
for my tape and I mean, but they
took Damien Woody and why

1560
01:27:19,500 --> 01:27:22,300
wouldn't he was great and he did
great and New England.

1561
01:27:22,300 --> 01:27:26,800
He was great at BC he played at
Patrick Henry Ashland, but I did

1562
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,100
it today.
A man, like, I got two degrees

1563
01:27:29,100 --> 01:27:33,000
met my wife and I was
all-conference and and played in

1564
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,000
bowl games and had my name
called not for hold him before

1565
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:39,400
great blocks.
So, you know, at the end of the

1566
01:27:39,407 --> 01:27:43,400
day, man like you're bigger than
that, you know, be a bigger than

1567
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:48,000
something than just football and
I think sometimes with the

1568
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,000
combination of social media, the
manufacturer height we have

1569
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,400
right now, the misinformation
these kids get, I think

1570
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:57,000
sometimes they lose himself with
all this and they actually put

1571
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,200
more pressure.
Pressure on themselves.

1572
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:06,200
They realize Yeah, I can totally
concur with you because I didn't

1573
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:10,900
play any Collegiate Sports.
I was in a fraternity but I made

1574
01:28:10,900 --> 01:28:15,000
some of my best friends.
I met my wife at school me and

1575
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,700
Brian had known each other since
middle school, we're still

1576
01:28:18,700 --> 01:28:22,100
hanging out 23 later.
It's a lot more than just that.

1577
01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:25,400
So I like that point, I am here
to ask you a question because

1578
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,700
you've mentioned some games here
and there, what was your

1579
01:28:28,700 --> 01:28:31,400
favorite game that you played in
IT Tech?

1580
01:28:31,700 --> 01:28:39,400
What is Nick game sticks and
says, that's the one cool man.

1581
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,400
You know what?
Oh my God.

1582
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,300
That is a tough question.
That is a very tough question

1583
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,800
about this.
How about 30?

1584
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:56,200
She top three.
Maybe that can help the Well, I

1585
01:28:56,208 --> 01:28:59,100
wish you a text me that before.
So I could because Dad stuff

1586
01:28:59,100 --> 01:29:01,700
because I'll probably when we
done recording this I'll

1587
01:29:01,700 --> 01:29:04,800
probably say oh I had this one.
Okay.

1588
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:12,000
I think I heard you mentioned
before the first time, tech one

1589
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:14,400
in the Orange Bowl.
You are part of that team right?

1590
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,300
Huh.
Yeah that was special.

1591
01:29:16,300 --> 01:29:20,500
I didn't play that much but it's
funny.

1592
01:29:20,500 --> 01:29:24,600
That was going to be my number
one was the His bowl win.

1593
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,200
There's the second one we had
that we won there for the first

1594
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,500
time in 96.
We came back in 98.

1595
01:29:30,500 --> 01:29:34,300
We were 3 and 0 - 3 you know
yeah that's definitely him a one

1596
01:29:34,300 --> 01:29:37,300
and it was a hurricane.
Ironically the Miami Hurricanes,

1597
01:29:37,300 --> 01:29:41,600
a hurricane on the horizon,
coming up the coast and we had

1598
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,500
to get that game.
And it was a prime-time game at

1599
01:29:44,500 --> 01:29:49,800
8:00 p.m. and the only other
primetime game and for you 90s

1600
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:53,100
early 2000s, heads, you realize
this was a big rivalry to time.

1601
01:29:53,500 --> 01:29:57,400
Tennessee, with Peyton Manning
was playing and I believe Peyton

1602
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,100
Manning was gone.
It was Tee Martin and Florida

1603
01:30:00,300 --> 01:30:02,900
led by Steve Spurrier.
They were the Primetime other

1604
01:30:02,900 --> 01:30:05,700
game.
So man being Tech, both ranked

1605
01:30:05,700 --> 01:30:10,100
on and my Tennessee and Florida
was in the other channel and we

1606
01:30:10,100 --> 01:30:16,200
beat Miami and over time when
they had gosh Talent, Ray Lewis

1607
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:17,400
not Ray Lewis, he was already
going.

1608
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:18,800
That was you have a few years
before.

1609
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:23,200
But they had a Damian Lewis.
Edgerrin, James Clinton Portis

1610
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:27,200
was a Act of Ed Reed was the
starter Santana Moss Reggie.

1611
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:32,300
When we got down 2:47, you know,
Luke was on the sidelines girls.

1612
01:30:32,300 --> 01:30:35,300
Twerking in the stands sold out.
That came out in the Smoke

1613
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:38,000
ma'am.
He's talking Cash.

1614
01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:41,300
Money trash, they had damn
Morgan.

1615
01:30:42,300 --> 01:30:46,200
My gosh, so many household
names, man and speed all on the

1616
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:50,100
field.
It was so humid, but it was a

1617
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:52,100
great win.
I mean, we want to know what

1618
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:57,200
time Corey morning goldberger
called Bradley Nate Williams.

1619
01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:02,700
Chris, Cyrus Chad, Beasley David
Pew, the baby death row because

1620
01:31:02,700 --> 01:31:04,900
that follow me in 99, they did
with 95.

1621
01:31:04,900 --> 01:31:08,500
Did they were also great.
But that game was great beat

1622
01:31:08,500 --> 01:31:10,900
Miami and then running to that
Sidelines.

1623
01:31:10,900 --> 01:31:13,900
Saying that's four in a row.
Y'all can't beat us and their

1624
01:31:13,900 --> 01:31:16,100
coaches, like, get out of here,
get out of here, you know, and

1625
01:31:16,900 --> 01:31:18,900
they were hot, you know?
And that was the old Orange

1626
01:31:18,900 --> 01:31:20,600
Bowl.
There was a mistake there and

1627
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:24,800
technique you can see us.
It was Is it because, you know,

1628
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:28,900
you beat him in 95, you beat him
with 96, you beat him in 97 and

1629
01:31:28,900 --> 01:31:30,900
97.
They said they were rebuilding

1630
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:35,200
and we beat him in 98.
That's four in a row and you can

1631
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:39,200
see that Butch Davis was
building something special with

1632
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,200
them, but Tech was not ready to
give it up.

1633
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:46,900
And we were the premier program.
That was really special, really,

1634
01:31:46,900 --> 01:31:48,900
really special, probably number
one.

1635
01:31:49,300 --> 01:31:50,900
So that would be the favorite
game.

1636
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:56,000
I would throw in Alabama.
My That game ever as a hokie, we

1637
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,100
had heartache that year but the
heartache set up the great

1638
01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:03,000
season that was 99.
But 98 we lost the temple who

1639
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:07,000
had lost 35 935 conference games
in a row Temple.

1640
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:11,900
For all you old, his listing was
the worst program every year in

1641
01:32:11,900 --> 01:32:13,600
college football.
We were ranked.

1642
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:15,300
What change?
We would like a 20-something

1643
01:32:15,300 --> 01:32:17,700
Point favorite.
We were up 17.

1644
01:32:17,700 --> 01:32:19,500
Nothing.
They came back and won in Lane

1645
01:32:19,500 --> 01:32:26,100
Stadium on homecoming. 2824.
That's saying you we lost the

1646
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:27,900
Syracuse in the Orange Bowl.
We win the game.

1647
01:32:27,900 --> 01:32:31,200
We go to the BCS bowl and play
Florida Gators in the Orange

1648
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:35,400
Bowl.
We let that game, 21, 22, and we

1649
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:38,500
lost to make Nano on a last
second touchdown.

1650
01:32:38,500 --> 01:32:42,800
That was that same year and then
we also lost to UVA losing 20,

1651
01:32:42,800 --> 01:32:47,600
not winning 6:31 and it came
back and avenge their comeback

1652
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:51,400
lost to us from 95.
Aaron Brooks to pass to my

1653
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:57,000
longtime friend of mine Hawkins.
So not we rating three we're

1654
01:32:57,000 --> 01:33:01,800
ranked but we should be
undefeated, it's my senior year

1655
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,700
and we're ranked and we playing
Alabama and they are talking

1656
01:33:04,700 --> 01:33:08,400
trash the entire week at audible
activities and festive.

1657
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:11,200
This is the SEC.
They had a cornerback named

1658
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,200
Fernando Brian who was an
All-American and All-American

1659
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:20,200
running back and I had, who's
that I'm Alexander was the

1660
01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,300
running back.
Number 11, yes.

1661
01:33:23,500 --> 01:33:26,100
Alexander and it was the and
they also had the All-American

1662
01:33:26,100 --> 01:33:29,600
offers alignment off the tackle,
Chris Samuels, and I really like

1663
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:33,500
hanging out at a joint team
function, he was telling coin

1664
01:33:33,500 --> 01:33:37,000
Engelberg, had never given up a
sack even in practice and I was

1665
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:43,500
like, who is this?
Dude, you know, we smoked

1666
01:33:43,500 --> 01:33:46,600
Alabama, gave them their worst
Bowl loss, ever in the inaugural

1667
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:50,500
Music City Bowl in the middle of
a Northeastern in Nashville,

1668
01:33:50,500 --> 01:33:54,700
Tennessee, in dolly world.
We gave We got that dub on them

1669
01:33:54,700 --> 01:33:58,400
and they were sick to their
stomach, and the entire night.

1670
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:02,400
And then, even the next day, all
you heard was rolltech because,

1671
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:07,900
you know, they say Roll Tide and
Hokie Nation to, so that was

1672
01:34:07,900 --> 01:34:09,600
great.
And, you know, I get even

1673
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:12,500
emotional interior.
Telling you guys that right now,

1674
01:34:12,500 --> 01:34:17,700
because, you know, those losses
still haunt me, you know, as a

1675
01:34:17,708 --> 01:34:21,500
senior as a player those three
losses to UVA Syracuse and

1676
01:34:21,500 --> 01:34:25,300
Temple but at least It's my last
game, you know, was over

1677
01:34:25,300 --> 01:34:28,600
Alabama, first time we ever beat
him and it was a legendary win

1678
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:32,100
and I set up the momentum for
the 99 season, which they

1679
01:34:32,500 --> 01:34:34,100
probably should have won that
year in the national

1680
01:34:34,100 --> 01:34:37,600
championship game.
But they played for one and then

1681
01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,100
just to throw in good measures,
you know, as far as, you know,

1682
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:46,800
three, I would probably say
There's a lot more but I right

1683
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:52,700
now I would probably say this
Syracuse game that saying he,

1684
01:34:52,700 --> 01:34:58,100
I'm not the same year my junior
year because the Syracuse game

1685
01:34:58,100 --> 01:35:02,300
was great, because we beat them,
31, 27, ever forget mcnab's,

1686
01:35:02,300 --> 01:35:04,900
quote after the game.
It was on my birthday.

1687
01:35:04,900 --> 01:35:08,900
So we went on my birthday but
McNabb said to the media, the

1688
01:35:08,900 --> 01:35:11,800
press in his post game, press
sir, we could have won if we

1689
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:21,200
wanted to and Mike who backed up
McNabb always say that because

1690
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:23,900
of that, quote, I never
understood that quote, but

1691
01:35:23,900 --> 01:35:26,900
that's the days where we
couldn't win up there at the

1692
01:35:26,900 --> 01:35:30,300
Dome, and they couldn't win in
Lane stadium, and nothing better

1693
01:35:30,300 --> 01:35:32,500
than, you know, when, you know,
your birthday and then going

1694
01:35:32,500 --> 01:35:36,200
downtown to our nose and Big
Al's and getting drinks.

1695
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,500
And it's your birthday and you
won, and you got the Virginia

1696
01:35:40,500 --> 01:35:44,300
Tech sweat suit on and
everybody's showing you love and

1697
01:35:45,200 --> 01:35:47,800
His great man.
It is a great, great feeling.

1698
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:51,900
I love when it but Tech, man.
I got more great wins, you know,

1699
01:35:51,900 --> 01:35:54,800
I would throw another wins where
I was, you know, a backup or

1700
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,200
played, some the Sugar Bowl 95
but those are the three I gave

1701
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,300
you right there.
Especially at Miami when was

1702
01:36:01,300 --> 01:36:04,300
great to Clemson win and 98 was
good going down and Clemson is

1703
01:36:04,300 --> 01:36:09,500
checking them out 37 nothing but
I don't really love that game.

1704
01:36:09,500 --> 01:36:12,300
It was so hot in South Carolina
for twelve o'clock kickoff.

1705
01:36:12,300 --> 01:36:14,600
I felt like a sun was behind
this event.

1706
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:21,300
It was that game was played at a
party with a movie until 3:00,

1707
01:36:21,300 --> 01:36:23,500
because you now we have the code
red Code.

1708
01:36:23,500 --> 01:36:26,800
Orange heat advisories.
And you know, it's a different

1709
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:31,300
time.
So, you know, no, such thing is

1710
01:36:31,300 --> 01:36:35,700
red and orange heat advisory in
the 1990s and just, I think

1711
01:36:35,700 --> 01:36:37,900
about looking back, man.
Could love.

1712
01:36:37,900 --> 01:36:41,300
I remember when people were
dying in 98 people, 96 people,

1713
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,900
Corey Stewart passed away for
the Vikings Rush.

1714
01:36:45,100 --> 01:36:48,100
Lost the player people were
passing out in the Heat and

1715
01:36:48,100 --> 01:36:50,800
beans is like you got to fight
through it.

1716
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,500
That was it, that was his
response and I was like, I just

1717
01:36:55,500 --> 01:36:58,800
knew we're going to get Practice
cancelled but again, different

1718
01:36:58,800 --> 01:37:02,700
time, different era.
But you guys got me emotional

1719
01:37:02,700 --> 01:37:04,000
now, think about those great
wins.

1720
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:08,400
Those were some great great
times man and that's the beauty

1721
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,600
of being on the team like a
great team like that.

1722
01:37:12,700 --> 01:37:14,900
Love to hear that love you that
I want to ask.

1723
01:37:15,100 --> 01:37:17,200
Personal question that you might
only have.

1724
01:37:18,500 --> 01:37:21,600
One that comes to mind.
Was there a guy that whether you

1725
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,500
practice against the more you
play the game against them?

1726
01:37:23,500 --> 01:37:25,700
Like when you saw his number
across the ball?

1727
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:28,200
You just said you said, man,
it's gonna be a long day.

1728
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,100
Mmm, law that happened in
practice.

1729
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,000
Yeah I remember man you gotta
remember something man.

1730
01:37:36,100 --> 01:37:40,500
I went against jimbaran Hank
Coleman Cornell Brown JC price,

1731
01:37:40,500 --> 01:37:45,300
Corey Moore Johnny will Burger
Carl Bradley Martin Luther.

1732
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:51,500
Listen you can That right there
and then but I will.

1733
01:37:51,700 --> 01:37:56,900
But just to give some
perspective, I want again, some

1734
01:37:57,800 --> 01:38:00,800
West Virginia and back in the
late 90s when I play, they were

1735
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,000
built like us.
And they had, they had some

1736
01:38:04,000 --> 01:38:08,200
studs, they had some great
defensive lineman, the names

1737
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:10,900
Escape me now.
Sometimes my memory does this

1738
01:38:10,900 --> 01:38:12,500
not for, like, in mind.
Okay.

1739
01:38:12,500 --> 01:38:17,200
But I don't have CT anything but
it's just you getting old, but

1740
01:38:18,100 --> 01:38:21,500
They had Gary Steals and they
had a guy named Thornton at West

1741
01:38:21,500 --> 01:38:24,400
Virginia, and they were animals.
Gary Stills, and Thornton

1742
01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:27,700
Thornton was a defensive tackle.
He actually just broadcasting

1743
01:38:27,700 --> 01:38:30,100
for the Big East Network.
I don't know if they even still

1744
01:38:30,100 --> 01:38:34,600
do that now.
But he was an animal in West

1745
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:37,600
Virginia where they were so
physical, like it was like a

1746
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:43,100
chisel full quarters of battle,
then of course you want to throw

1747
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:46,300
in Chris Hogan at Boston
College.

1748
01:38:46,300 --> 01:38:49,000
He was tough.
I said, man.

1749
01:38:51,700 --> 01:38:54,400
Dwight Freeney.
No, thank God.

1750
01:38:54,400 --> 01:39:01,600
I thank God my longtime team.
I mean my longtime brother might

1751
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:06,300
email Anthony Lambo had that
distinct honor given up the six

1752
01:39:06,300 --> 01:39:09,900
sacks that year my at the Orange
Bowl, Dwight Freeney was an

1753
01:39:09,900 --> 01:39:13,100
animal.
I will say this, it's the

1754
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:15,200
toughest deal on other than
Virginia Tech.

1755
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,900
I mean, I say because I'm the
few players that toughest d-line

1756
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:23,600
And I went against their Rivals
Virginia Tech, but you protect

1757
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,800
still has the advantage who, you
know, you heard who I name, but

1758
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:32,300
was the 97 care, the 97 UNC team
in the Gator Bowl led by Mack

1759
01:39:32,300 --> 01:39:35,300
Brown.
They beat the beep out of.

1760
01:39:35,308 --> 01:39:38,100
I mean, they just, they should
have been in that bowl game.

1761
01:39:38,100 --> 01:39:40,700
We were banged up.
We were seven and four finished

1762
01:39:40,700 --> 01:39:43,400
second in the Big East, 5 and 2
in conference play.

1763
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,200
But our best players were in the
stands or done.

1764
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:47,900
Al Clark, didn't finish the game
Knicks.

1765
01:39:48,100 --> 01:39:53,100
Orson got MVP at a bowl game for
us and he was an emergency

1766
01:39:53,100 --> 01:39:57,700
quarterback for us now, Clark
Was Heard, Dave Myers Was Heard

1767
01:39:58,100 --> 01:40:00,700
chiron's didn't play.
Ricky Hall, didn't play.

1768
01:40:00,700 --> 01:40:05,900
And Andre Davis didn't play, but
they had every needs a cube on

1769
01:40:05,900 --> 01:40:11,600
Vani holiday, my Greg Ellis, and
I remember I got called for

1770
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,600
holding that game late in the
game.

1771
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:17,900
And I remember, just like, just
there's a picture of me.

1772
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,100
Me I'll post it.
You know, it's probably miss

1773
01:40:20,100 --> 01:40:23,700
throwback but I'll post it again
back when I had hair and they

1774
01:40:23,700 --> 01:40:25,700
had to ruin, no times caught me
on the bench.

1775
01:40:25,700 --> 01:40:28,900
Will look we're already lost the
game 42 3 but it's still time

1776
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:34,500
and I got my head facepalm, I'm
leaning over just you know my

1777
01:40:34,500 --> 01:40:39,700
Lima gloves on rubbing my face.
You know it's 3:45 in

1778
01:40:39,700 --> 01:40:43,400
Jacksonville Florida p.m. and
it's overcast and I'm just

1779
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:46,200
thinking about I can't wait to
get back to Blacksburg or

1780
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:50,000
Roanoke or whatever.
And then the quote underneath me

1781
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:54,700
looking like I just competed in
a Hunger Game, there will be

1782
01:40:54,700 --> 01:40:57,100
played him 60 times.
He would lose all 60.

1783
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:02,400
So it looks like I said that
mess but I was they have my

1784
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:07,500
picture but he says it Carolina
Carolina had draped down that

1785
01:41:07,500 --> 01:41:10,200
team karolina should not, they
Carolina couldn't be Florida

1786
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:14,500
state that year and they were
I'm forgetting guys.

1787
01:41:14,500 --> 01:41:16,500
They have that team.
I mentioned Ray blah but they

1788
01:41:16,500 --> 01:41:20,700
were, we were seven and four.
They were ten in one, and their

1789
01:41:20,700 --> 01:41:23,900
only loss was to Florida State
that's when Florida state had

1790
01:41:23,900 --> 01:41:29,100
coals and Bobby Bowden and
Peter, Warrick and floor

1791
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:31,500
statements, the BCS bowl that
year and, you know, the way the

1792
01:41:31,500 --> 01:41:34,100
bullet liner was back in North
Carolina wants to the Gator

1793
01:41:34,100 --> 01:41:38,000
Bowl, that's how I was.
And we were overmatched, but I

1794
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:42,200
will say this funny story, I'm
giving you some scoop beaver in

1795
01:41:42,200 --> 01:41:43,300
the locker room.
The guy.

1796
01:41:43,400 --> 01:41:45,200
L forget man.
We just wanted to go home.

1797
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,700
We were done, we would defeat.
It morale was just low because

1798
01:41:48,700 --> 01:41:54,700
we just got in stomped on NBC
and the Gator Bowl and Beamer

1799
01:41:54,700 --> 01:41:56,300
came in.
Grabbed the stool from

1800
01:41:56,300 --> 01:41:59,400
somebody's locking he's, I want
everyone to hear me and hear me

1801
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:03,100
now I'm paraphrasing but he
said, everyone has been put on

1802
01:42:03,100 --> 01:42:06,300
notice everybody's position
including coaches.

1803
01:42:06,700 --> 01:42:08,600
Everybody is on.
Notice if you don't come back

1804
01:42:08,600 --> 01:42:11,500
ready to play and ready to
compete, you won't be here.

1805
01:42:11,900 --> 01:42:15,800
Oh, yeah.
Is 1997 97 after.

1806
01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:20,200
So in 98, we knew man, you know,
in Gentry, I mean, you know, the

1807
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:24,000
offseason was tough, you know.
And, you know, and they were

1808
01:42:24,100 --> 01:42:29,400
some guys ironically, that
transferred be my point.

1809
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:33,400
You see a theme here.
So again, everyone's not built

1810
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:34,500
like that.
There was some guys are

1811
01:42:34,508 --> 01:42:37,100
transferred, not because they
wanted more playing time, they

1812
01:42:37,100 --> 01:42:40,100
weren't built for it.
It is what it is.

1813
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:44,300
But yeah, man don't Those
defenses.

1814
01:42:44,300 --> 01:42:45,400
But you know what's funny
though?

1815
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:51,100
Man is when you go against Corey
Moore and Cornell Brown and JC

1816
01:42:51,100 --> 01:42:56,800
price, and Waverly Jackson, and
jimbaran and Lawrence, Lewis and

1817
01:42:56,800 --> 01:43:01,100
Hank, Coleman and called Bradley
and Nate Williams and Chad

1818
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:05,300
Beasley and David few when you
get in the game is on Saturday

1819
01:43:05,300 --> 01:43:07,800
or Thursday night, you're not
worried man.

1820
01:43:08,900 --> 01:43:12,800
I just hope one time that people
say when did you know you were

1821
01:43:12,808 --> 01:43:14,400
going to read?
Sure, you know you were high

1822
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,100
profile play out of Hampton
High.

1823
01:43:16,700 --> 01:43:22,400
I said, when I had to line up in
front of Cornell Brown, I called

1824
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:24,500
my dad and my mom later on that
night.

1825
01:43:24,500 --> 01:43:26,800
Say yeah, I'm going to take this
red shirt, you can we don't

1826
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:32,400
mention it this year, I'm going
grabs, the rum gone go and put

1827
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:37,900
this red shirt on That's all
good.

1828
01:43:39,100 --> 01:43:42,800
I was only a year behind them.
Cornell.

1829
01:43:42,800 --> 01:43:46,700
I mean, Cornell, a lot of people
say he flipped the in-state

1830
01:43:46,700 --> 01:43:50,500
recruiting for Frank.
Let me ask this in and I love

1831
01:43:50,500 --> 01:43:54,300
kind of phrases to, right way
because in when we were coming

1832
01:43:54,300 --> 01:43:57,500
up Miami and UVA the rivalry
games, when those games were

1833
01:43:57,500 --> 01:44:02,000
played, it was a big deal.
It was, I mean, when you got

1834
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:07,000
there 94 to roughly probably
06-07, it was games were Wars

1835
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:11,600
and me and Brian been talking.
Like, do you feel that way Other

1836
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:14,900
Miami or UVA or maybe a
semblance of both like those

1837
01:44:14,900 --> 01:44:19,900
rivalry games, get back to where
they were 20 years ago, where he

1838
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:21,500
like you mentioned the Miami
game.

1839
01:44:21,500 --> 01:44:25,700
When it's a night game, both
teams are in the top 10 or to

1840
01:44:25,700 --> 01:44:31,300
Commonwealth Cup game.
When you know like 95 when that

1841
01:44:31,300 --> 01:44:36,000
happened when you know, both
teams have 10 wins and both

1842
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:39,100
teams are trying to get you to
Sugar Bowl and both teams ranked

1843
01:44:39,100 --> 01:44:42,300
in the top 15.
What do you Is more important

1844
01:44:42,300 --> 01:44:44,700
that helps Elevate packed
programme.

1845
01:44:44,700 --> 01:44:47,100
Is it both?
Or do you have a preference?

1846
01:44:47,700 --> 01:44:49,700
Well, let me just add this real
quick.

1847
01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:53,700
You forgot to mention West
Virginia because West Virginia

1848
01:44:53,700 --> 01:44:57,800
was also up at net and you can
make an argument as that you can

1849
01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,300
make the argument to West
Virginia, Virginia Tech robbery

1850
01:45:00,300 --> 01:45:03,800
during the 90s and the early
2000s before Tech jump to the

1851
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:07,800
ACC and 04, probably better
games and more important than

1852
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:12,100
the Virginia Tech UVA robbery
but during my era, Era to your

1853
01:45:12,100 --> 01:45:16,500
point, the UVA Virginia Tech
robbery was epic and the Miami

1854
01:45:16,500 --> 01:45:19,200
robbery with tech for years was
epic.

1855
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:22,100
It was it was Bloodshed, it was,
you know, Braveheart near the

1856
01:45:22,100 --> 01:45:27,000
end of the movie.
It was real and it is my

1857
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:31,100
preference.
I would like oh this is going to

1858
01:45:31,100 --> 01:45:35,100
make some people mad.
I like it when taking you via

1859
01:45:35,100 --> 01:45:39,600
both good because I grew up in
that and it's good for the kids,

1860
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:42,700
great for the Commonwealth.
People look at me funny on

1861
01:45:42,700 --> 01:45:45,800
camera.
When I celebrate UVA not that

1862
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,200
they are celebrating wins but
I'm like hey that's a good one.

1863
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:51,700
That's good for us.
I mean it's it's just better,

1864
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:55,700
you know.
Jonathan McLaughlin was like Hey

1865
01:45:55,700 --> 01:45:58,200
everybody post your comment
with, you know, drinking out the

1866
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:02,000
cup and I sell I lost my last
two years you were here and he

1867
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:06,200
couldn't even fathom that and I
said, hey man, they were really

1868
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:07,500
good.
Y'all beat some UV.

1869
01:46:07,500 --> 01:46:09,900
A team that couldn't be
Centerville High School on the

1870
01:46:09,900 --> 01:46:14,200
road, okay?
So you don't calm down, joking

1871
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:18,700
me, you know, because my UVA
battles, we were going against,

1872
01:46:18,700 --> 01:46:22,400
you know, Dingo and Patrick
Carney and Wally Rainer and the

1873
01:46:22,407 --> 01:46:25,500
farrier brothers.
And you know, some studs.

1874
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:30,500
Aaron Brooks, you know, UVA was
ranked 15th, we ranked, 18th and

1875
01:46:30,500 --> 01:46:34,100
vice versa.
It wasn't what you see now.

1876
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:39,000
So if you have both programs
Beamer said it best in George

1877
01:46:39,000 --> 01:46:41,300
Wells, co-signed it is enough
Talent.

1878
01:46:41,500 --> 01:46:45,400
Stay for both teams, to get it
and win, but both teams are not

1879
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:47,700
getting especially to be fair
UVA.

1880
01:46:48,300 --> 01:46:52,000
You know, UVA is the one that's
falling short, the last 16 17

1881
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:56,700
years, not Tech and grow, and I
know tech fans are going to

1882
01:46:56,700 --> 01:47:00,100
smirk when I say this.
I think grow got to out-of-state

1883
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:02,600
happy during his day.
He got coach two years and he

1884
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:06,100
just kept going up to New York,
New Jersey Pennsylvania because

1885
01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:09,300
he was a New York Jet coach.
He didn't really look Holly upon

1886
01:47:09,300 --> 01:47:13,000
Virginia talent and I think That
came back to bite them because

1887
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:14,700
Tech was full of Commonwealth
guys.

1888
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,600
So I think you got to get guys
in state.

1889
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:21,900
I think Miami and Tech will
always have that rivalry because

1890
01:47:21,900 --> 01:47:26,100
of what we did during my era,
and it's funny too, because

1891
01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:29,200
Miami has a lot of coaching
Carousel within their program,

1892
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:33,600
and nobody lives off, mystique
and manufacture height, and

1893
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:37,800
history lessons more than the
Hurricanes of Miami between

1894
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,900
Michael Irvin and Warren Sapp.
We get more history lessons

1895
01:47:40,900 --> 01:47:43,900
about the You, but less
productivity on the field.

1896
01:47:43,900 --> 01:47:45,400
So it doesn't match up.
It's more.

1897
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:47,900
So let me look at this 3430.
So I can get what you're talking

1898
01:47:47,900 --> 01:47:52,000
about because you guys are the
king of underachieving, you

1899
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:55,300
know?
So the reality is, as I mean, is

1900
01:47:55,300 --> 01:47:58,500
constantly going to be a robbery
or Tech because they're two

1901
01:47:58,500 --> 01:48:01,000
Biggie's foes and they gave you
great.

1902
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:06,000
I mean, if you, if you still
have the ESPN classic channel to

1903
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:10,600
this day, I get, hey, you're on
or even ESPNU, they always show

1904
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:14,400
tons of Tech UV.
I mean, Miami rivalry games from

1905
01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:18,500
the 90s a season.
Yeah they do.

1906
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:22,800
Basic network was in those
nannies, games act like in the

1907
01:48:22,808 --> 01:48:28,500
summer last year.
Yeah, and obviously, yeah, yeah.

1908
01:48:28,500 --> 01:48:34,100
But the UVA one, you need UVA to
get better or like to push Tech

1909
01:48:34,300 --> 01:48:37,300
but at the same time it's a fine
line.

1910
01:48:37,300 --> 01:48:39,700
You don't want them to become
better because it can hurt you.

1911
01:48:39,700 --> 01:48:44,700
So it's kind of How you VA
helped us get into the ACC, you

1912
01:48:44,700 --> 01:48:48,600
know, you kind of want both
programs there.

1913
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:53,800
So I'm a Virginian, you know, I
I love the Richmond area.

1914
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,500
I love Southwest Virginia, I
love Northern Virginia and I

1915
01:48:56,508 --> 01:49:03,000
love obviously my home 757 and I
like you know I mean look you

1916
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:04,900
guys fought.
We follow each other on Twitter

1917
01:49:05,300 --> 01:49:10,000
at the end of the day, look how
great that you VA Virginia Tech.

1918
01:49:10,000 --> 01:49:14,800
Basketball rivalry is Right now,
and how it's been the last five

1919
01:49:14,800 --> 01:49:19,200
years with buzz and Bennett.
And now young and bidded who

1920
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,500
love and respect each other and
look what they're doing for both

1921
01:49:22,500 --> 01:49:26,200
programs and it's great,
basketball and damn, right?

1922
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,300
It looks good.
Seeing you be in Tech, the top

1923
01:49:28,300 --> 01:49:31,400
of the ACC I like that.
I want.

1924
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:32,800
What?
Carolina-duke have?

1925
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:35,800
I'm tired of it.
Why would, why can't we have

1926
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,200
that for the coastal?
You know?

1927
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:43,000
I mean, yy-you can't be afraid
of competition, you know?

1928
01:49:43,000 --> 01:49:47,700
I mean, it's cool to brag about
the streak and look at the

1929
01:49:47,700 --> 01:49:51,400
little means and Mike, London,
crying, what did Jordan face and

1930
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:52,400
I am.
Okay.

1931
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:55,300
Yeah, it's fun.
But you really you really are

1932
01:49:55,300 --> 01:49:59,200
you really bragging.
You know, when you have a

1933
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:04,900
Midfield altercation between 25
and 16s and microbrew has leader

1934
01:50:04,900 --> 01:50:07,500
come back to Bucky Hodges, I was
in the stadium.

1935
01:50:07,700 --> 01:50:10,300
Of the great win.
But I left after the, you know,

1936
01:50:10,300 --> 01:50:12,700
the Smoke Clears and you happy
you beat your rival for the

1937
01:50:12,700 --> 01:50:15,600
whatever.
Team time is 6 is 6.

1938
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,600
Yep.
If I was seven.

1939
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:19,400
So what are you really happy
about?

1940
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:21,500
It's embarrassing.
It's not.

1941
01:50:21,500 --> 01:50:24,400
So he should brag about because
everyone outside of Virginia

1942
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:27,900
doesn't give a damn, you know,
and that's what people need to

1943
01:50:27,900 --> 01:50:31,300
remind himself of you want to be
part of something bigger than

1944
01:50:31,300 --> 01:50:35,300
just the conference game.
You know I'm saying II?

1945
01:50:35,300 --> 01:50:37,400
And I'm not I don't have
Alabama, Clemson out.

1946
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:41,700
Alabama Auburn fatigue.
I just I have I have fatigue

1947
01:50:41,700 --> 01:50:44,700
when it comes to being
irrelevant like, you know, when

1948
01:50:44,700 --> 01:50:48,500
you wake up after a great win on
Sunday morning and you're eating

1949
01:50:48,500 --> 01:50:52,200
your breakfast and you you
getting your fantasy lineup,

1950
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:54,900
shredding you like okay, okay,
let me turn into these

1951
01:50:54,900 --> 01:50:57,100
highlights, what they gonna say
about this Tech UVA game on

1952
01:50:57,100 --> 01:51:01,000
College, you know, game night.
They just show the score, you

1953
01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:02,000
know, buddy.
Nobody cares.

1954
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:04,800
Yeah, nobody cares.
They play the game.

1955
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:08,300
Here's the final score.
Yeah, they're low and Other New

1956
01:51:08,500 --> 01:51:12,500
Virginia Tech holds on be UVA.
They'll go to the Bowl game that

1957
01:51:12,500 --> 01:51:17,900
comes on Comcast, on December
1935, you know, I mean, what

1958
01:51:17,900 --> 01:51:20,900
happens, you know, I don't, and
I'm not mocking my program, I

1959
01:51:20,907 --> 01:51:24,400
just think sometimes we need a
reality, check, what we once had

1960
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:28,400
and what we need to get back to
and Beyond and, you know, the

1961
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:31,700
answer your question again, I
just think if it's my choice is

1962
01:51:31,700 --> 01:51:36,000
Virginia Tech UVA.
Although they what you want, but

1963
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:38,500
when you consistently beat
Miami, Me like we've done and

1964
01:51:38,500 --> 01:51:42,700
we've done it before the brand
of Miami is still relevant when

1965
01:51:42,700 --> 01:51:44,700
you beat Miami.
Still turns heads.

1966
01:51:44,700 --> 01:51:49,500
Yeah, you know like we did last
was it last year?

1967
01:51:49,900 --> 01:51:52,800
Oh yeah.
When we ask that Duke de barco

1968
01:51:53,100 --> 01:51:57,800
and and then came down on my
Miami game and they beat him you

1969
01:51:57,800 --> 01:52:01,800
know, or that year when she
Corey Harris and Kirk Herbstreit

1970
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:05,000
declared that you as back and
tie rod and Jared Boykins beat

1971
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:08,700
him, 31 27, you know, when the
rain game Smackdown in the rain

1972
01:52:08,700 --> 01:52:13,700
and Lain under that game follow
but to you doing in my house,

1973
01:52:13,700 --> 01:52:16,800
got a question but I'm going to
make it to your point of the

1974
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,800
Miami game.
We had just gotten curb-stomped

1975
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:23,700
by Duke.
I was still the 330 ABC game

1976
01:52:24,300 --> 01:52:30,700
that year we were or two and two
just lost by 42 a bad dude team.

1977
01:52:30,900 --> 01:52:34,100
But that game when the next game
and I think you're right, and

1978
01:52:34,100 --> 01:52:37,100
I'm with you, you won't, you VA
Tech to be good but I think you

1979
01:52:37,100 --> 01:52:38,200
agree.
Right.

1980
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:41,700
Yeah, I'm right there with you.
I think when UVA is good the

1981
01:52:41,700 --> 01:52:45,400
program's push each other.
Yes I think that's what kind of

1982
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:48,800
came out when when you were
building the program at Virginia

1983
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:51,900
Tech in the 90s.
And I feel like that is kind of

1984
01:52:51,900 --> 01:52:55,200
what helped Propel Virginia Tech
to what it became and what it

1985
01:52:55,200 --> 01:52:59,200
was throughout the 2000s.
And I feel like UVA being down

1986
01:52:59,200 --> 01:53:02,100
and then some of the other
things that have changed on the

1987
01:53:02,300 --> 01:53:05,500
national recruiting front, you
know, we just we're not where we

1988
01:53:05,500 --> 01:53:07,700
were and I feel like getting
some of that back getting Some

1989
01:53:07,700 --> 01:53:11,600
of that competing for the same,
you know, top 10 players in the

1990
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:15,500
state every year, not getting
that back would be good.

1991
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:18,800
You know what I sold?
Mike Vick on coming to Tech.

1992
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:22,600
I said, imagine if you go to
Tech and Ronald Kray goes to UVA

1993
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:25,000
and arrival, you guys had in
high school continues.

1994
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:28,700
Oh, and he loved loved.
He loved that notion.

1995
01:53:28,900 --> 01:53:30,900
Of course.
We all know, Ronald went to UNC

1996
01:53:30,900 --> 01:53:33,000
because of their basketball and
football program.

1997
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:35,700
Yep.
Like a Mic Mac on in Dean Smith

1998
01:53:35,700 --> 01:53:41,200
left but you know what, also, to
you A point UVA ultimately

1999
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:45,300
indirectly because of their
inconsistency with grow in

2000
01:53:45,300 --> 01:53:49,200
London and the streak and them
started losing it Duke.

2001
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:51,700
You know, when Duke was still
inferior before, you know, they

2002
01:53:51,700 --> 01:53:54,000
really got, you know, pretty
good program.

2003
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:57,100
It resulted in Virginia Tech
becoming complacent.

2004
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:02,500
Because you your instinct
robbery is almost a guaranteed

2005
01:54:02,500 --> 01:54:06,400
win and you're still losing
recruits, but you lose them to

2006
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:10,200
Ohio State but you're getting
pretty much you still getting

2007
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:15,200
David Wilson, Logan, Thomas and
Tyrod Taylor, so you're okay.

2008
01:54:15,900 --> 01:54:18,400
And then, you know, it didn't
really push you, it didn't?

2009
01:54:19,500 --> 01:54:23,100
Because because again, Beamer
had to get guys like myself, and

2010
01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:25,900
kid knocks, and gone, and Toni
Morrison.

2011
01:54:25,900 --> 01:54:30,100
And all those guys that come in,
Because you VA had George Wells

2012
01:54:30,500 --> 01:54:32,700
and it was, my UVA was winning
eleven games.

2013
01:54:32,700 --> 01:54:36,200
Only have one ten win season in
the history of their program but

2014
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:39,900
at the end of the day they were
winning in the ACC and they held

2015
01:54:39,900 --> 01:54:42,500
it over Jean takes here because
the Big East was always looked

2016
01:54:42,500 --> 01:54:45,800
upon as a very good conference
but it wasn't named CeCe with

2017
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:48,700
their tradition, their passage
free, so they had to leg up.

2018
01:54:48,700 --> 01:54:52,200
So Virginia Tech have to work
twice as hard to become relevant

2019
01:54:52,300 --> 01:54:55,100
and be respected.
So I stand by what I say.

2020
01:54:55,100 --> 01:54:57,800
It goes hand-in-hand man.
You gotta you.

2021
01:54:57,900 --> 01:55:02,000
You got to push each other hits
the you know we need you to be

2022
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:06,700
great like you know you know
Skywalker Invader you gotta have

2023
01:55:08,500 --> 01:55:10,700
that enemy.
You got to have the Yankees and

2024
01:55:10,700 --> 01:55:12,600
Red Sox.
Get over here like matters.

2025
01:55:13,300 --> 01:55:15,600
Yeah you got some you got to
have that, you know.

2026
01:55:16,300 --> 01:55:17,300
Yeah.
You know.

2027
01:55:18,500 --> 01:55:20,200
So we're going to close out with
one last question.

2028
01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:25,700
This one kind of be a fun one.
So everybody was hype on the

2029
01:55:25,708 --> 01:55:27,200
Twitter timeline.
I'm sure you saw it.

2030
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:29,700
Double a football game coming
back.

2031
01:55:29,800 --> 01:55:35,500
Probably next couple years.
What is something that hasn't

2032
01:55:35,500 --> 01:55:38,400
been in that game?
If you played it recently that

2033
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,900
they need to put back in that
game, be put in the game now

2034
01:55:40,900 --> 01:55:44,000
whether it's like changes to
recruiting or the transfer

2035
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:48,300
portal or whatever it may be,
either, they have like with 2K

2036
01:55:48,300 --> 01:55:51,800
has that my career.
I don't know if they have it but

2037
01:55:52,100 --> 01:55:56,300
like, you know, if you play 2K,
you do you go to practice?

2038
01:55:56,300 --> 01:56:00,800
You sign a contract, you Atta,
girl, you got shoes, it gives it

2039
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:04,400
some personality, you know, you
can always create a player, but

2040
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:09,100
like the Recruitment and
different things like that or or

2041
01:56:09,100 --> 01:56:13,500
and or if I couldn't have that I
would actually this gets kind of

2042
01:56:13,500 --> 01:56:16,700
kind of, you know, Funk funky
because you know, it gets into

2043
01:56:16,700 --> 01:56:21,000
amateurism but like I would have
like, you know, legendary high

2044
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:24,500
school programs, like my high
school and there maybe Oscar

2045
01:56:24,500 --> 01:56:28,300
Smith like or like high schools
you know where you know You had

2046
01:56:28,300 --> 01:56:33,500
a, you know, high school teams
that you have been it, where you

2047
01:56:33,500 --> 01:56:38,900
play, and then you recruit off
that or, you know, the legendary

2048
01:56:38,900 --> 01:56:40,500
teams the classics.
I know.

2049
01:56:40,500 --> 01:56:43,000
One thing I used to love that
game.

2050
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:46,600
Gosh, I'll probably almost
filled out one semester messing

2051
01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:53,300
around with that game.
But I love that game because I

2052
01:56:53,300 --> 01:56:56,100
remember when I got older, and I
was in my 20s, I was living up

2053
01:56:56,100 --> 01:57:00,100
here in Northern Virginia, man,
and they Had the classic teams

2054
01:57:00,100 --> 01:57:04,500
the 98 Tech Team when 99 team,
and I like that as well.

2055
01:57:04,500 --> 01:57:07,400
So I hope they keep that but I
know I don't really give you a

2056
01:57:07,400 --> 01:57:10,500
concrete answer because I'm
actually thinking as I answer it

2057
01:57:10,500 --> 01:57:14,100
because I'm sure after we wrap
up, I'm probably going to tweet

2058
01:57:14,100 --> 01:57:19,300
something at least you had this,
you know, but it's great to his

2059
01:57:19,300 --> 01:57:23,900
back that game masking guys,
almost fight over their game

2060
01:57:23,900 --> 01:57:27,800
and, you know, just we used to
I, you know, I love that game.

2061
01:57:28,000 --> 01:57:31,800
Oh, no, love man.
And I am bolo, Man 2.

2062
01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:34,600
Yeah, but I'm playing especially
like when I was younger.

2063
01:57:34,900 --> 01:57:38,100
I was Lee had been around less
would like seven or eight years

2064
01:57:38,100 --> 01:57:42,100
but like, I always played a
whole lot more NCAA that I

2065
01:57:42,108 --> 01:57:44,500
played men, I played Madden.
If I wanted to play like with a

2066
01:57:44,508 --> 01:57:47,000
friend, if I was just, you know,
picking it up for myself.

2067
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:50,300
I always picked up NCAA.
We live in Collegiate sweets,

2068
01:57:50,300 --> 01:57:52,300
man.
And Shane bhima gets pissed when

2069
01:57:52,300 --> 01:57:56,300
I told that story, but I used to
bust his ass and I used to go

2070
01:57:56,300 --> 01:57:57,700
upstairs.
He lived above me, huh?

2071
01:57:57,900 --> 01:58:03,100
Him, Chris, Cyrus, Ken handy,
and Tim snacker, and I lived on

2072
01:58:03,100 --> 01:58:06,700
the bottom apartment complex.
Same complex, bottom, first

2073
01:58:06,700 --> 01:58:08,700
floor.
And I love Shane's.

2074
01:58:08,700 --> 01:58:10,500
My brother and I'm so happy for
him.

2075
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:14,100
I really am.
Derek Smith was my roommate,

2076
01:58:14,500 --> 01:58:17,900
Damon watlington, who was a
basketball player was also, one

2077
01:58:17,900 --> 01:58:20,900
of my roommates and we had the
four bedroom and I used to go

2078
01:58:20,900 --> 01:58:24,400
upstairs and me and Shane used
to have some battles.

2079
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:26,500
And Shane is very competitive,
like, me.

2080
01:58:27,100 --> 01:58:29,900
And one time, they The control
and he was like, get out.

2081
01:58:38,100 --> 01:58:39,800
Yeah, man.
You know, I just, you know,

2082
01:58:39,808 --> 01:58:42,400
that's when that back when I had
a friend called free time, but I

2083
01:58:42,407 --> 01:58:44,300
ain't seen free time in years,
man.

2084
01:58:44,700 --> 01:58:50,200
So but no it was great times
man, but I don't really have a

2085
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:54,800
concrete answer for you, man,
cuz that game is just wonderful.

2086
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:57,500
I mean, you could, there's
probably gonna be some surprises

2087
01:58:57,500 --> 01:59:00,600
even in this revolution, in
within the game because it was

2088
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,300
so popular.
And there's so much has changed

2089
01:59:03,300 --> 01:59:06,600
since then went away.
So it probably would have the

2090
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:09,100
transfer portal in it and all
the, I don't know.

2091
01:59:10,500 --> 01:59:13,700
Funny, I brought that up, but
yeah, it'll be cool to see what

2092
01:59:13,700 --> 01:59:17,300
surprise they have.
I do like the classic teams if

2093
01:59:17,300 --> 01:59:19,200
anything.
If I could pick one.

2094
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:21,600
Maybe just to kind of Full
Circle.

2095
01:59:22,100 --> 01:59:25,500
I would probably reintroduce
those classic teams because

2096
01:59:25,900 --> 01:59:28,700
that's the Nostalgia about
college football, everything's

2097
01:59:28,700 --> 01:59:34,300
gets better as the years go by.
So like, Remember the u.s. 18

2098
01:59:34,300 --> 01:59:36,500
USC?
USC teams, Reggie Bush, you

2099
01:59:36,500 --> 01:59:40,000
know, their folklore and
abilities become better or the

2100
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:43,700
99 Tech Team, you know, now,
instead, Michael Vick, you know,

2101
01:59:43,700 --> 01:59:47,900
he actually he threw a touchdown
pass with his arm, tied behind

2102
01:59:47,900 --> 01:59:51,500
his back in the end zone.
You know, it's just rumors and

2103
01:59:52,300 --> 01:59:56,300
the exaggeration gets bigger and
they become more iconic.

2104
01:59:56,300 --> 02:00:00,800
And I think that's why that game
was so popular and you had fans

2105
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:04,100
and their music.
Okay, and it's funny too because

2106
02:00:04,500 --> 02:00:08,000
we would be like yo, I'm using
this team using tenancy lot

2107
02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:09,600
somebody.
You know, I'm running the option

2108
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:11,100
with Team Art.
I mean, it was crazy because

2109
02:00:11,100 --> 02:00:13,200
that was my team.
It was Tennessee, was so weird.

2110
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:14,600
I don't even know why I picked
them.

2111
02:00:15,700 --> 02:00:18,900
I never played with tech that
much man, and we used to get

2112
02:00:18,900 --> 02:00:19,600
mad.
It's funny.

2113
02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:20,800
Bringing some.
Now you got me going.

2114
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:25,000
I got to shut up, but we used to
get mad because the first thing

2115
02:00:25,000 --> 02:00:27,600
you do like the NFL guys, you
would go in and see what they

2116
02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:29,900
got me rated.
I'll be like oh let me see what

2117
02:00:29,900 --> 02:00:31,300
I'm saying.
What they got me rated.

2118
02:00:31,800 --> 02:00:37,900
I was like I-79 this is bull,
you know, you know you know we

2119
02:00:37,900 --> 02:00:41,200
would just go crazy just what we
were rated, you know, like who

2120
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:43,300
they watching who had us, you
know.

2121
02:00:43,300 --> 02:00:46,800
But it was really cool because
I'm old enough to tell you about

2122
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:49,300
Sega.
And when it used to be done it

2123
02:00:49,300 --> 02:00:51,600
wasn't even.
You could even use a team.

2124
02:00:51,600 --> 02:00:55,700
They just caught like they had
Sega when the in-situ a first

2125
02:00:55,700 --> 02:00:59,500
came out, they had they had the
name, only had a select amount

2126
02:00:59,500 --> 02:01:03,800
of teams and it was Talan.
I see it was, it was the name of

2127
02:01:03,800 --> 02:01:08,200
the city that college town they
were in and Virginia Tech was in

2128
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:10,000
on it.
This was the early 90s.

2129
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:13,400
We were like, okay, we gotta win
and then they came out and they

2130
02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:16,500
had or more teams.
And I remember seeing that

2131
02:01:16,500 --> 02:01:21,200
Virginia Tech on that screen, it
was so cool being part of that,

2132
02:01:21,200 --> 02:01:25,000
you know, but That's really cool
man that nostalgic.

2133
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,900
But a lot of fun tonight man I
appreciate you guys for having

2134
02:01:27,900 --> 02:01:30,600
me on this has been great
Dwight.

2135
02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:34,200
This has been an absolute
pleasure man and we hope to have

2136
02:01:34,200 --> 02:01:37,300
you back in the near future to
talk more because I feel like

2137
02:01:37,300 --> 02:01:40,000
between just what we've talked
about here tonight, we have

2138
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:44,300
barely scratched the surface of
content to talked with you about

2139
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:48,800
again, we thank you for taking
your time this evening because

2140
02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:52,000
we're going on two hours.
It doesn't feel like two hours

2141
02:01:52,000 --> 02:01:55,200
at all feel like, Go another two
without blinking.

2142
02:01:55,200 --> 02:02:00,800
So we thank you tonight, man.
Yeah man, thank you and Shawn to

2143
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:04,300
your listeners, and your
supporters, your podcast, and I

2144
02:02:04,308 --> 02:02:08,400
appreciate the platform and I
hope people get some ideas and

2145
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:12,100
like, I apologize man, but I you
guys both have been great for

2146
02:02:12,100 --> 02:02:14,300
me.
I love talking and is I just

2147
02:02:14,300 --> 02:02:17,300
like great conversation.
I don't want to get to the point

2148
02:02:17,300 --> 02:02:19,300
where I, I'm no better than you
too.

2149
02:02:19,300 --> 02:02:21,300
I'm a humble person.
We're All in This Together

2150
02:02:21,300 --> 02:02:23,800
trying to live life, the best we
can Can enjoy our favorite

2151
02:02:23,800 --> 02:02:27,500
program and I like talking to
fans on Twitter because I learn

2152
02:02:27,500 --> 02:02:30,900
something every day and it's
good to remember this and

2153
02:02:30,900 --> 02:02:34,700
reflect on my career, but also
hopefully one day when I get

2154
02:02:34,700 --> 02:02:37,200
back on sooner than later, we
can talk about a big win over

2155
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:41,200
West Virginia or comeback win
over whoever, but I'm looking

2156
02:02:41,200 --> 02:02:42,900
forward to getting back on your
show one day.

2157
02:02:42,900 --> 02:02:47,200
I'll support you any way I can.
And again, thank you both really

2158
02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:49,000
appreciate you joining.
Thanks so much for joining.

2159
02:02:49,000 --> 02:02:50,400
It's been fun.
And I can't wait to have you

2160
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:51,400
back.
Yes, sir.

2161
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:52,600
And that's going to wrap up
this.

2162
02:02:52,700 --> 02:02:55,800
This episode of The Boundary
Corner podcast.

2163
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,500
I'm Curtis Wilson, I'm Brian
Sigler.

2164
02:02:59,100 --> 02:03:02,100
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2165
02:03:02,100 --> 02:03:05,900
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2166
02:03:06,300 --> 02:03:09,800
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2167
02:03:09,800 --> 02:03:13,600
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2168
02:03:13,700 --> 02:03:17,800
And as always, let's go Hokies

Dwight Vick

Hokie Legend/Vicktory Life Founder

Dwight is a proud graduate of Virginia Tech. While at Virginia Tech, Dwight played for the legendary Coach Frank Beamer as an offensive lineman from 1994-1999.

In an effort to help youth achieve their dreams of becoming successful, he created Vicktory Life in 2018 and works as the Director of Student Development. In this role, he provides therapeutic mentoring to at risk youth focuses on goal setting, career development, time management, and life skills.