UNC Game Recap

UNC Game Recap
Boundary Corner Podcast
UNC Game Recap

In this episode we recap the Hokies upset victory over the North Carolina Tar Heels at Lane Stadium and how Virginia Tech was able to consistently confound the Heels offense and keep their defense off balance.

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0:45 Welcome back, big boundary Corner podcast. Cheers buddy. Cheers victory. Victory. We'd like the scotch. I'm drinking my friend buddy, how you doing? I'm doing good man. I spent my night over at Hardy would park in West Creek, not drinking some fighting Hokies logger watching the Hokies upstairs with with some fellow alumni and some other folks for that showed up just a big party over there, they have the projector up pretty solid event.

1:29 Very nice man. I will solo here at the house all by myself. No one bothering me but my wife for that but do my came with me. My wife. So hokey this is she Your wife drove you home every day. That that helps you shout out to run with this. It's 559. Your Hardy would I'm here at the house and they're still showing tennis. What the fuck was that? Are you kidding me? And you know, I'm sure it's contracts want stuff and all of a sudden lips. And dude, there's a sea of Orange. In the stands.

2:20 Lame. Looked gorgeous tonight. You look beautiful the entrance. Sounded great. They'll give you a spins production team, a shout-out, the intro, sounded great, the running sounded great. And then man all night. The teratoma was back. Yeah, it was loud all night. They were in the game. Looks like the GTA and North End Zone is working. As as expected, the students did not leave. Yeah that and it was loud. It was really loud.

3:00 I know going to one of the breaks, I don't know if they had the volume there, they were showing a highlight from one of the other games and Jason been attending and Andre Ware was like, Like we had no clue what you just said because it is freaking loud here. We had a shit anything that you're talking about because it is loud and I don't know if you noticed it Brian. And this was just cool to see and it again it brings me back to when we were there. What we grew up on for all the young kids tonight? This is what we grew up on. This was the terror Dome. And Chris Fowler said it, he spent a lot of a righteous nights at Lane Stadium since 99 and it's cool to see and hear it like it was in The Glory Days in a performance.

3:52 Versus a very good team was worth the same in run out. I love that. Yeah, I love it. They earned it. They did. We earned it tonight. You have salmon. It's special. It's a great tradition. But you also need to go out there and get the w. We went out there and got the W and I think that that that's just as important as everything else and I'm get in that, we were able to To really put together a solid game front to back. You know, there there were some there's some things here there that we could talk about and we're going to get to that in a little bit. But I mean, this was a completely different looking Virginia Tech Team than what I thought we would see tonight.

4:34 Same here. Same here, I thought we would look okay on defense and let's start there but I did not think we look like that man. And I'm going to just, let's just take our hats off and give them a tip. I don't turn it around now. Tip the Hat. Hat and J Hamm. He had a hell of a game plan, and he called a hell of a game. In my opinion, he knew right away, what he wanted to take away from that North Carolina offense. And he said, we're going to make Sam how beat us through the air or with his legs. We're not going to let you Use that RPO that rushing attack, we're not going to let you Feast like you did last year we're going to shut that shit down and you're going to have to beat us with your arm through the air with a couple of your key pieces out for this game. And he did it and he did it in on every day on whether it be getting sex.

5:32 But Brian, they were 4413 on 3rd and 4th in 4413 you don't win that offensive line was confused. They never really picked up. What we were doing? Consistently on the defensive line throughout that game. Absolutely Richard. They were just consistently Just off off off balance and there's no other way to say it. They were all balance all night, we kept them off balance on the offensive line. If you can do that, you got a good chance of winning the game. Exactly. Now they had 146 yards rushing but you know, Brian we're looking here at the stats. 69 of those came on three runs. Yeah. And look almost almost half of that came on one run before to close out the half, or we were in, prevent your in prevent they and they decided to run them also. That was impressive.

6:22 It just showed Pam knew what they wanted to do and he was not going to let him have it. You know made some really good adjustment. Did you mentioned already but let's let's start Brian. I'm having a 12 year old scotch man. In this is only the first, I'm not smashed yet and I only ask because you know more Saturday and I've got things to do but I'm doing a victory drink. But let's talk long because dude, everybody on the defensive line everybody that played had an impact.

7:07 Yes, story. That's the best defensive line play in a single game that I've seen in a while from Cruz unit yes or no Bardo. Just looked like there was some place where he was just unblockable, true and then you had Garbutt came in. Got two sacks looked like he's back what he wants. He saw him before. Yeah, so if we can get that for 12 games, That then we've got we've got defensive ends that can make some noise. You damn right, we do. No, I loved what they were doing with bar know in some of the three down sets when they would have been standing up and he Beyond I mean he'd be at like nine standing up and the next thing you know, he's running in and he's almost in the middle of the between the garden of Center just like standing up, showing his head in there.

8:00 They dropped him. Some porno is a freak. There's no way to put that he is a freak and if he plays like, you did tonight in the upcoming games, a everybody enjoyed this year. Because he will not be here next year. High Bar B Bar, it plays like he did tonight. I mean, you're talking book Russians who can get to the quarterback and then hi. Let's talk about all the defensive tackles man, all of those. Guys, they were disruptive in the pass game. They were disruptive in the Run game. Run game consistently. They clogged up the middle that if they were going to get a run, they were Going to be in the spill area, they weren't running up the middle on this defense. It was it was as good as I've seen our interior Rush defense in a while and it starts I mean Pollard had a hell of a game Kendricks.

9:00 Had a hell of a game Kendricks bubble times on stunts. Getting to the quarterback multiple times on stunts and Slants disrupting. The play, making the running back, run the highwomen. Hump speaking it outside and letting the guys out there, take care of it. Yep. And we have the same way. I saw Williams on a couple Slants to Quick slant gets inside next thing. You know, pocket is doing this and house, he's having to run the hump. They knew what they were executing and they went after it hard and Williams, didn't get that highlight. Play like the other guys did. But Williams was so consistent all night, if you go back and watch the tape every time.

9:43 And by the way, shoutout Josh fuga playing at zero a couple times and just holding point of attack. What he did, that's his job. He did it good. I want to know what happened to his head though. I think Caroline took a cheap shot at him. He came back in a couple plays but like he was laying on the ground, At that point when I see slight something like that happen immediately think somebody took a cheap shot, but you know, each experience production crew. Flappy on this y'all don't like to show replays at certain times. Brian, they gasp just last year tip gashed. We've already mentioned the stats and take away those three big runs and they own.

10:23 The other 27 carries a fairly average, you know, where you play, which is impressive. Why? Why why did what was the difference between this year and last year? I mean, the big thing is that we were Gap sound across the board, the defense operated, the way it should because we were guests sound. If your gab sound, you're pushing rushing plays out to the spill area or letting you're letting your whip, your LED, your nickel, you're letting your safeties kind of clean up the mess last year. We didn't do that enough. B Gap was like, like we said the other night you can run a damn truck through it. Not this year.

11:05 This year, you know, one or two runs here there, and one of those was a quarterback scramble. The other was one play where we gave up the edge. Yeah. And Chandler was able to get I think was like a 15 or 20 yard run out of it. But other than that, the other, the only other big rush was a meaningless Rush before half-time, but the bigger thing other than the Gap sound like that's important from a technical standpoint but just from a mental standpoint. This defense did not play timid or hesitant like they did and so many points of last season so many points of last season. They were waiting essentially waiting for the play to come to them instead of attacking it and some of that comes from repping enough to where I know what I'm doing.

11:56 So I don't think about what I'm doing. I just see it in react and they were doing a lot more of that tonight. And I just, they Were playing with confidence and that's another thing we didn't see you last season. They looked like they were confident that they were going to win that game. Right out the jump and that never wavered. Yep, you say that not being hesitant not being stupid. We already mentioned this x64 on. We had nine tackles for loss, we had 15 plays in their backfield on 60 or 65 snaps. That's just that one of every four where we made a play in the back of, that's not even counting pressures. That's not counting his and same towel took some hits tonight but Brian you talked about the Gap.

12:47 Last year our linebackers we played like dog shit, purses them this year. Hell of a different story and I mean, Alan Tisdale his Dale to hit Tisdale bought out tonight. If this this is the Tisdale the new and improved his Dale. We're in for a pretty big year because he played very well tonight. He was sound but he also was flashing that athleticism and making plays behind the line of scrimmage and just completely taken away, their ability to consistently get to where they wanted to in the rushing game. Yep. Seven, tackles one for loss and the sack. Hell of a game for him and and we're couple times, you saw him play Spy, he was dropping coverage, he was coming on some blitzes, he would end at 2:28.

13:39 He did not look a bit slower than he did it to 18 or 215 know any Penny played much better inside the the Box than he did at any point last season and really at any point in terms of consent that like that's the most consistent whole game. I've seen him put to take So I'm hoping that that's a sign of things to come for him because if that's the case, like I feel pretty good about this linebacker core. I do, let's talk about the next one though. Thanks Holly feel. I'm in the towel waving Dax was solid all night. He had four tackles, we had half a tackle for loss. Also, half a sack he was helping. He cleaned up on a Sac.

14:27 We're essentially it look like Well, I think how pretty much down but he came in there, make sure you put him down. Um, but every time they're three plays that I want to talk about and I can't remember exactly when one they ran outside pipe run, almost like a sweet pie plate and he got out there and he set the edge. He did not let the god drive him. He did not get off of The Tackle. And in that case, I know we there's been discussion. He don't know how to get all flops in that case. And if you brought them like, is that the right plane? You're like yeah, he held the edge. He spilled back inside in the alley. Everybody was there to clean up. He gets off of it, he helps clean it up the second play, and you probably remember this when they did get a good RPO run in key step right into the B, Gap made, the tackle fell down.

15:18 It was a three. Yard game, right? Where he needed to be and the third play his interception. Oh, interception got an interception. I was told by certain people, anybody can make that interception, but here's the deal with that and Brian you've mentioned it when he even played backer. He's always in where he's supposed to be in the right spot. If you look at that play, he is supposed to be in the 5 to 10 yards on drop, that was his position. He didn't deviate from it, he didn't go freelance, he didn't come up to the line, he stayed right there and when or pail Pollard got up in that play, Beat the guard gets the hand makes the tip dax's exactly where he needs to be, has to make an athletic move makes the interception. Three times.

16:11 Did the right plays. We were lined up, right? All night, he was getting the crowd going, actually multiple players on the defense. We're just raising it up in the crowd were responding. If I see that play with Dax all year, where he's getting four. Tackles everybody's lined up, he's in the right spots. He said in the edge, you said it would Tisdale I feel really good about this defensive line back and forth because there's one more guy we got to talk about. We did it for her, is what we finally did it. We've already Connor slid inside and played linebacker on a handful of snaps and we we talked about that potentially being something that they might do to mix things up and they finally went to it. We also, you know, we'll do it a little bit but part of that was part of the true nickel package that we rolled out there and then some other plays that was just okay. We'll situationally, let's get the axe off. The field will move Shamari in there and It worked any kept North Carolina off-balance all night. They really never felt comfortable in their game. Sam Howell never got comfortable in this offense. You know, he did.

17:31 I know he did not even looked like a couple times, a deer in headlights, and I said it four times. Now, he got popped, More than one occasion tonight when he ran, he paid, he stood there trying to make throws. He paid, and I like getting that on tape, because the next quarterback will be sitting there. Looking at me, like I did not paint that Barn. Oh, God. 260 bearing down on me, and probably third Paul couple seconds earlier than I probably should. Yeah. And let's talk about bar, know a little bit more before we move on. Bar, know putting on some size. Still guys, the speed still has the athleticism and like I said, pretty making making plays man 11 everywhere on the field of engineering everywhere.

18:20 Yeah, all over the place man all over the place. Um youyou. Do we get? Kudos to J. Hamm coaching the safeties and rotating guys in and out. Not playing favorite. We saw Hunter we sell. Take daily. Yep. We saw Keon to Jenkins. On this an industry or pisan these people's hackles. The Seer people said, six tackles, he was in there, making plays all for safety's had moments where they were, they did. Well I know Hunter didn't log a tackle but he was at the right place making sure that the ball carrier went where it needed to in the Run game.

19:00 What I saw out of Canto Jenkins, what I saw at a daily and what I saw out of Nasir, people's all of it. Was was good and if we've got a four-man rotation like that and safety good, I'm cool with that by committee because, I mean, I mean, we saw, we saw daily, make a bunch of plays. We saw him make a really damn good play. That should not have been Pi that God called pi, and he has consistently a bee farming. I love, I love seeing 17 back out there because I mean, we love Diablo, it's nice seeing 17 back out there. Absolutely. So take a daily shout out. Good job. Repping the 17th tonight. Damn, good job.

19:41 Robin said the ending play. He got a pi on was just complete bullshit. He was literally trying to make a play and run. You talked about where his arms were. When we were getting ready to come on here. It's like he was literally, the only thing he was trying to do was get to the fall. The it was an incident them good knew that hip wrap, that that gets called a lot especially in the NFL, you know, he was right on the edge right on the Hip Pocket. Rotated to get his shoulder in front reached out, there was a little bit of contact with the shoulder but he was clearly going for the ball. I mean, that that's very incident on. He had position to make that play. It wasn't like he not the receiver off of a line to get to get there.

20:21 So definitely definitely that one should have been let go there but, you know, whatever we won the game. Exactly. All right, let's roll up into the corners because I think tonight when We went to that nickel Waller played the nickel Corner. Yep. Again in Jackie. You know what I have shades? Are thinking about it now Brian? Which got calcula playing nipple. Yeah. There's Walters physical shit. Yeah. And the Wake strong and Armani can cover on the outside. It's awesome. Let's talk about our mining Chapman and he was Chapman played a hell of a game. I love seeing him rotating in it outside. When they went with the nickel packages he was kind of swapping out with with strong.

21:12 Keeping keeping those guys fresh. Yeah. And he He had a couple big plays in the running game. A couple. Big hits. Oh yeah, he kill number 26, he essentially forced to got a miss that blocking, he caught that kid and turn him over. That kid was sitting there. Like you could see he was just like, I didn't not like getting hit like that. The some good pass breakups by Armani. He had to pass deflections tonight. I mean, You know, tackled past deflection that that in that tackle was such a big tackle because on that swing pass if you it was set up good when he when he beat his guy, it was this whole he gets him.

21:57 It's a 45-yard loss. He got him, he made him pay, he made him. Think any put them behind the change where they were consistently all night and I mean if we're going to consistently, do the nickel package thing? It is going to benefit all three of these guys. It's also going to benefit. There's going to be I'll say this right now. After game one, I'll feel comfortable if they on base packages. Let Jermaine get a breath. Yeah, the way Armani. And 14-play. Yeah, yeah. And let's talk about it, too. I mean, I know we've already touched on linebacker, but it helps play to Dax, has strengths, and minimize has his weaknesses, as well, very good. Because, you know, not now you Now, you're not only taking Connor out of the potential man-to-man mismatch against a slot player like Downs, you know, but in where he's probably more responsible for running back or a tight end in that type of positioning.

22:59 And he can definitely handle that whereas Dax May struggle with that potential a little bit. So maybe there's a, there's a lot of things that that can benefit us having that true nickel set out there especially when you're able to take advantage of it and you don't get kind of caught in no man's land with us with a sub or anything like that. So exactly. All right, let's flip it over. We've already talked about him. Jermaine Waller. That it, he he took not only that ball. He took that wide receiver Soul when he rolled on him. And then there were here, he broke on that. He was already a catchy. Said no, that's mine, that's mine.

23:40 He loosened it. Then he got snatched his mortal. And man it was beautiful when I want to maybe hopefully in the next few days here. Brian we can see some of the data, but I want to stay all the Downs catches wallet, which is when we were in the base. Is one term re they do not want you more. No, I don't think the big set of the oneplay the I mean, there's a bunch of planes. I mean teams are going to get yard shit happens. There was only one play that I looked at tonight. I was like, damn, that really shouldn't happen. And that was that tunnel screen. That Downs took to the house.

24:22 Yeah, no issue with that. Be in a 15 or 20 yard gain, ER, but we should have had somebody opposition there to make a play. Get the to get it to the ground. Make Sure, that didn't turn into a touchdown. Yeah, and that's what it did and I think that might have been their biggest pass. Play of the night. Get down to numbers up here. Yeah, 37-yard touchdown with his biggest pathway of the night. He 1841 23. The rest of the crew didn't do too much next post 346. So again secondary balled out. Shout out before we get to the last Corner. We've already talked about tomorrow. Connor quite a few times a Hell of an ankle tackle on Downs.

25:04 If Tamara doesn't, make that tackle Downs as way, downfield. And then, that last pick, he got the hand under, and he held onto it, and they reviewing it. Because what happened is when he went down, he had the ball secured, but when he hopped up, I want it look like maybe the Carolina kind of nudged him or some pop them. They already catching. It's like he was literally laying on the ground, his hand under the ball, his knees on it. Him trying to stand up Up, you can't even rule because college football is down by contact or to do something down by contact, it's down in general. So if he had the ball secure, when he's laying on the ground, it'll make a shit. What happens when he pops up. I don't know why they even looked at it.

25:45 But, you know, maybe they were trying to find some for Carolina together maybe they thought the never Hannah? I don't know. I never really looking for when they're so like Brian real quick, Dorian strong, The Freshman All-American. I didn't see a regression from him tonight manfully. Some plays. But those plays and looks like we were in that quarters coverage. You talked about where it's like, okay? You're going to get 12 yards and a first down cool. But you ain't getting shit owes. Yeah, he had a couple where he was out there kind of with 50/50 balls especially that one of the last ones that was thrown to the end zone. That he went up made a big play, make sure that ball didn't get caught there in the end zone.

26:26 So he had a really good night. Like you said, kind of kind of steady made plays we Easy. But I think one thing that's improved a little bit for him is the tackling. I think he's makes all we saw it towards the end of last season, but you know, those plays now, where you're catching the eight yard out the 8-yard curl, He's making sure that that's getting. That's a tackle every time it might move the sticks but it's not, it's not turning into something worse and I think that that's big for us and he was solid all night. Like I said, I was really impressed with the 50/50 balls that he was able to win and keep these guys out of the end zone.

27:09 Absolutely. And I'm trying to go through here on the roster real quick because I feel like the last time I looked he was waiting at 175 in just looking at him out there tonight. Ron and before I let me get there quick. Efforting I don't think he's 174. He looks bigger. And it's like some guys play bigger man, but he looks bigger. He looks physically bigger and I'm wondering if it's the old Robbie company. Think he felt about on the coaching, or on the clinic. I said, hey we're going to list. We're going to list, Dorian it 175 what he's 190. Well what what he check in before springs for spring weight started 174, that's what we're listen to Matt.

27:56 So I think he's playing bigger. He look good the cornerbacks look good. Shout out tomorrow. Connor leading, the team in eight tackles along with that pick I'm just going I don't want to label it. I don't want to label it but I'm pulling out something behind here. Brian. That's a cup from 2004. Okay. Whose offenses from 2004 in up to about 2010. It took me back. We pop the shit out of people night. We were rushing.

28:37 They with the exception of them, breaking the nice 20 yarder here and there, they weren't getting anything. They weren't getting the mid-game. Now it took me back even with the crowd as loud as it was, I'm a proud guy, didn't stayed in the defense was making plays all over the field. They got turnovers, which is something that we need to start doing consistently again. So, it's nice to see that. But like I said, the biggest thing to me was that we look like, we had an identity, we have purpose, we were playing fast and loose, but still solid in our technique and being where we need to be freaking lutely.

29:19 Yeah. And in Puente said it in the interview with TS L couple months ago, we could not establish our identity last fall. And whether you love Fuente or you hate the one day and Loathing or you're like us where you're somewhere in the middle where we believe he's a good coach. Is he the right fit here? Maybe, maybe not. But if that's the identity of the team, the way we ran the ball, big plays, which we're going to talk about just a couple minutes here. He's found the identity especially on defense and having somebody like J Hamm in that personality, run it, where you know, he'll call you out. And he's going to talk to those guys and he's going to read them. And I don't know.

30:05 I brought anything else on the defensive side of the ball when your notes there that you want to discuss? That's all I got, buddy. Oh one last thing saying how career 68 completion percentage tonight? 51 took a hit and I took a big hit tonight with that before we jump into the offensive side of the ball tonight. We are going to take a quick break and we're going to go to our digital partner. All right, Braun, we battle we're back. We got to say it.

31:09 Props. Who. Say it with me. Brian Brad, Cornell for the Nielsen. There is a caveat to this, but overall, that was a well call game by him. He did what he needed to do, call Wise, to keep them off balance, especially early and get us the lead. Good job of kind of peppering different areas of that defense, not just leaning on one area, the other not taking too many. When it got two critical third Downs, he wasn't kind of going back to the Old Faithful. There was a lot of difference in mixed up calls on. There was no cool right?

31:56 What blasphemy quality jet sweeps that work lot of jet sweeps in most of them were effective period but no quarterback Powers. You know, the one thing that kind of got me and we had the lead going in the second half was he? He did get ultra-conservative. I mean, he got into a shell and was almost like, I felt. I felt like, again, like 15 years ago. Yeah. And he would do that crap. Like we were, we were definitely people playing to protect the lead at that point and I get that and I'm gonna throw it up here on the screen, can makes a good point.

32:41 Do we agree with the conservative calls before at I'm torn. I'm torn. I would guys, I'm aggressive. I like, if I got a team that's Reeling, I want to step on their damn fruits. Damn. I was it wasn't something that I liked, but if you talk, if you pull 10 coaches, six of them would agree with what he did. So, but the whole thing is, I think what you can do, Brian, what they got to look at doing is it's the, it's the safe aggressiveness. It's running a A tunnel screen, it's running, you know, running a running back screen, running it in, like, here's a play.

33:22 If you hit it hits, good. You can go try to get points. If it doesn't hit. Nothing is lost. And I think too many times, we see not old up coaches do that, where it's like, you need to have. It's almost like these guys getting paid six figures a year, don't sit here and say, well I'm going to choose for plays and they're all pretty safe. Unless somebody does something, you know, Julius Peppers us or Sean, Taylor asked and I'm putting some older names out there because those guys are freaking to do Crazy shit. DeAngelo Hall has, unless it God does something insane. This is going to be a safe place now. Worst that can happen, you can get dropped. We stopped the plot.

34:16 But in reality, we look at the time on the clock. If we put the they're probably not getting back, right? The reality Out of Heaven. Yeah. Maybe the kind of clothes that they were just close enough that if they wanted to take a shot they might could have got it to the end zone. Well they ain't giving, I don't know if how can a full if how got a full Crow Hop he might could have got into like the 45 yard line. Yeah I do but the whole piece is have plays in your back pocket. I know you love like throwback screens could you could peel off and go kill a defensive back. Oh yeah I love not going to piss out of guys that are smaller. Yeah that's obviously hole.

34:56 Ask them in your pocket. Just me that if you don't execute it, well it's going to fall to the ground fly. Okay, we're going to give them 20 exercise. Our defense is playing good, so I didn't, I didn't like that. I also didn't like the way we kind of went into the shell and the second half in again, I think it's the whole you ask me what that is weird because he had conservative when we had the two score lead, but actually started mixing it up again once it was back to one score yet some of the calls, once we got it back to one score were a little bit more what we anticipated. Because I don't mind. I don't mind going a little conservative but as you said it's like it's a calculated risk that you have to take with some play calls. Not you can't go full conservative. We're okay.

35:45 Well, we got to hope that even with a stag box we're going to break this inside zone for seven or eight yards here, you know I mean you can't do that. You can't just keep pounding pounding against the line or, you know, throwing there's like real quick. Bubbles and tunnels to the to the wide receiver. And hoping that they break out there playing us like that. Now knowing that hey they're going conservative, we can we can play them like this, hopefully stuff them up and get the ball back and they did for a good stretch there. And in that we made a couple mistakes in the on offense as well that kind of exacerbated that a little bit. Yep.

36:28 Alright Ron will throw a stat at you and you tell me if it would live with this fall year, if we converted Third Downs. All year, would you have to Yep. Absolutely. If we can, if we can get between 50 and 60, most games, I'll be happy that especially with the what is supposed to be an improved Carolina divas and I think overall, they were improved, they did it. They did a good job of overall of taking away, some of our big plate potential there from, but we're able to consistently get yard when we needed to and I think that was the big thing is that we we Weren't always consistently moving the ball but we got the ball where it needs to be at Big times in the game abso-freakin'-lutely.

37:14 And folks, if you look at the stat line that's going to say 64 13, the last night on third down conversion was practiced in the, in the game out. So reality, 6 of 12 and run 50 percent. Last year would have been a top 10. Think about that. So there's some wiggle room to be in a lead conversion team, which if this team runs the ball like that and converts its watch out now. All right, so let's let's jump. We're gonna look at a couple of positions. Let's start with the running back rotation Run. Okay. First first, because after that we are going to the offensive line and I'm just going to shut up for a while. I mean, let's be honest.

37:57 The one thing that we have been heavily A bread for Nielsen. And she's been here is occasionally, he does not use running backs right there and me and you talk We feel this is an agreement, we feel D actually use them correctly. Yeah. I mean use Rahim blacks, your heavily in the passing game whether it was running some wheel routes kind of music and dams, chip downs, and quick outs, little Flats screens obviously, but they did everything they could to get him the ball in space or the ball where he can catch it. Turn and make some plays and he was able to get that big one early in the game that really kind of set up. You know, how this game ended up playing out. You know, when we talked the other day about what we needed to do to win this game, it was be effective and moving the ball with the running backs with some of our other other guys that were necessarily outside.

39:02 And I think we did that early. We get James Mitchell involved. Early. Get Marine black sheep in the screen game and with the in the passing game and we were able to get that first score and that kind of set the tone and then the defense came out and did what they did. So good job with the exact, with the running back rotation to start there. I think with He was effective at times in the running game as well. In terms of just taking the handoff, we had a lot of plays where we were handing it off to him. In that kind of that lull period of the offense in the second half where they had a plastic box that that definitely hurt his overall yards per carry. It is in the first half.

39:51 He was pretty. He was pretty effective. He didn't have any sort of big runs but he had a handful of solid runs. Yep, somewhere between three and Five every time. Yeah what really hurt him was a couple times. He got caught in the backfield and one of the plays was that it was the it was to field side and they called a banger. It's like the safety was supposed to come down and he completely wiped it like five or six yards behind the line of scrimmage and there was another play. Just I think before the Mitchell touchdown, if I recall where it might have been on another body of work, he dropped it, he dropped the handoff. Where if you look at that play, I'd love to we're gonna have to somehow figure out. How to get the game tape in here run? Because if I feel like there's going to be an off tackle play in it, there were some Rumors in the water. Yeah.

40:40 Well if he would have been kind of like set it up outside and then put his foot in the dirt and got up field, there was an actual example. Yeah. But I think although they were on the field at the same time, I think how much better do you feel this year about the way they're using the name last year compared to last year? Much better, much better. And it was nice. Seeing him actually getting the, the official start there on the first series and they came out and okay, well, you got Rahim starting and then the actually use them the way they should use them like right off the gals like, okay, okay, I can work with us. I've got but with us, And profit on the first job though. You know, they use all three bags. Yeah Jalen comes in, get some carry Bill. Inhaling came in right after the big wheel route to Raheem, Blackshear gets a good carry thinking, got a tattoo or three-yard gain on a run later in that drive, you know. And then they close it out with a score. Yep, we actually Braxton close it out with Braxton. Yeah, I'm not sure if that play was designed that way, but it worked kind of right?

41:48 I think was supposed to be a sweet but it wasn't. But overall, you know, we want it went for 127 rushing which is not a you know, compared to what we were doing last year. Not a big number but we got the wind because again it was your point. They started stacking the bach. We play ultra-conservative for a while there. You know, Jeremy had a good game. They use Jalen for what Jalen supposed to be bigger guy. Let him let him wear on paper and, you know, just little between the tackles and And you know, with the way this defense likes to go multiple and really kind of brings pressure in the Run game in the spill areas of the, of the defense working between the tackles with wholesome is probably the best best course of action there. You know, we're still waiting to see if any of these bags are going to be a game breaker type in type play. Even occasionally like, like, like Khalil Herbert was last year, you know, that, that remains to be seen But if we can get Consistent play out of these three backs, then that's going to be important.

42:55 I was sad to see, you know, the costly fumble from Keshawn King unfortunately, and then he didn't really get a touch after that. So I don't know if that's a doghouse situation or what, but I'm hoping that he gets a good amount of run in next week's game. Yeah, yeah, I really want to see what he can do in this offense. It's true. And on that, unfortunately own that Fumble. If you look on the left side of the others, no one there. They committed to the box that he makes one cut and runs a home. He's probably got the corn. He's got to spend probably get the corner there since probably speeding adorned. So it's just one of those things he was in on kickoff return Beauty, although we can get a chance to so not maybe halfway in the doghouse, but I don't recall him coming back in and get any more carries, but Overall Silent Night from the running back room, especially after losing Herbert from last year. Okay, they're just scary enough.

43:57 Just scary enough to make people think about things in their own little way. All right, Brian, Chris and aerosols. The first round pick. We had to figure out what to do with Nestor and Hudson leaving. What did you think of the line as a whole? And then I want you to focus on the right side because we saw everybody on the right side, a lot of felt like yeah I think the offensive line they did a really good job of not getting bullied by that defense and they pushed him around. Especially early on sauteed more get some really good.

44:38 Lots of the Interior Brock had a good couple the Got called on a questionable whole. We didn't see it. We did not see it. They did not show it again. Hey, listen Lane Stadium fans are smart fans. And it was a big call bullshit after that because we know in folks, some of y'all probably were there tonight and other of y'all have probably with they'll show. The plan on the video screen, it took a few, it took about 30 seconds in and you heard bullshit. So I'm thinking ESP and then share that because it was probably one of those flippy calls where it have been like called that a-hole, All right, the first time so it looks like they ran it look like a hard slant into the play side and brought just kind of tried to get underneath and just kind of position his way. And there I didn't see him actually grab cloth or anything so it is what it is but I think I thought as a whole they held up pretty well.

45:47 Didn't really give up a ton of sacks. That was my concern. I was looking at, you know, maybe the right side won't be able to hold up and pass Pro. Maybe the left side might have some Some moments of laps because we've seen those troubles before. But overall, they held up across the board. There was a, there was only really One play. I think it was Silas and Z had a, had a whiff on that sack, that Burmeister took, and then the the other Defender got got to just face and shoved him for whatever damn reason. After that, like, well, that should have been a penalty, especially danji, the guy comes running to dandy like yeah, option plays. Over and I'm sitting like a, that's dangerous because he didn't see him.

46:35 Come, then plays dead should have been a 15. We should have moved on. But, you know, we had to win the game with a few officiating heiress and we'll talk about a really special, and later, but Brian overall, you mentioned it, one sack, they gave up one sack. This is, this is this is really good for me, four tackles for loss And you're always talked about the 245 is an aggressive attacking defense to only say out of will get you the snap count total here. We had 63 plays to say they were only in the backfield five-time there in the back of less, than 10% of time, actually, making a play now, it's and stuff. We obviously saw the pic that happened and we saw, you know, the screen pass to Blackshear, which could have been a massive gain, it affected it.

47:28 But again, we look at our version and some of that was by Design. They just had a good call in to where we were running the screen. Let us just kind of about the I design. We're not going to block. Lock sometimes guys. Just let me get expecting to get there as quick as they did and let it gets whipped on the guy just a little bit. I think if lettuce had put his foot, his back, or just kind of give the guy just a little punk, it probably would have been okay with the play. But I think it's also a thought. As I'm running a screen, I'm the third line of defense because it was Katie and Silas out, let it because his back over here. Ford's right in front of Braxton. So I'm sure his responsibility and has screen would've probably been anybody coming from this way.

48:11 Try to get to him because we've got probably what we call they re Tracer. So a lot of times screens have a re Tracer will there usually is the center of the back side guard and they're essentially responsible to try to wall off any defensive lineman that have kind of red screening or working their way, back to where the balls going. Yep. But we saw. We also Cadence Alice. We saw Tyrell and Johnny play Johnny, took some time at, Right Guard? Glad to see. Both those guys getting in the rotation. I'm also glad to see that Vice and I know he rotates guys, but glad to see, Vice that early because it was pretty early that they were in their trusted them early enough in the game to put both of those guys in there, to get them some reps, which again, as we see that, it's like, okay, maybe we're okay, we're getting slowly better depth lat.

49:01 Sighs. Yeah. Sorry Braun. Let's flip over to the wide receivers in the tight ends. Trait, a in Big Stone. Gap had good nights. Yeah, good night's across the board, Tay to good rushes, from the jet Suite. Had another catch that, that I think move the sticks. We had, all of Jane's Mitchell's catches came and clutch moments, whether it was the touchdown, there was a grab Down the sideline. I mean it just see what about the one in the middle. What he literally facepalm, not one. He facepalm to Carolina's to give 15 yards and uniformed. I mean yep that that play it that's going to rival the Eric Kuma facepalm equivalent it.

49:49 Well yeah, I mean he had a good night and then big play tray to You Catches That that like education problem man. Yeah that catch on the sidelines and then that Jet Sweep to lock it up at the end. There you saw him get it in here at like when when you see, when you saw Trey run that play and he was running hard. I was a point I was like, get down and he was just, it was almost. You can see the mentality of know. I'm ending this right here, right now, I'm getting the first down. He didn't stop and he eventually got the 12 yard. Yards and he eventually got there. Let's talk about this.

50:40 Let's look on the schedule, Brian the next 11 games, and I know, we don't know what everybody has yet, but just sort of between looking the breath and pick six, previews, looking at PFF are just general knowledge about who were playing. Or we, we didn't have a lot of outside passes. We didn't have a lot of stuff going on tonight. Very good game plan why we're giving for credit. We're going to face a more talented threesome of cornerbacks this year, probably not know. Maybe the, at least athleticism wise, Miami might be the next closest.

51:20 But just in terms of overall, Ability and the fact that they've come along so quickly, I think this is definitely the most talented group are as I should say, they are, they are one of the most talented group, they are definitely the most physical group relative that talent that will play. So Miami might be a little more seasoned overall and in still have some of that athleticism but I don't think they're going to be playing that bully ball, like North Carolina likes to I got you another thing tonight did notice people and we mentioned about Dwayne Lofton and we mentioned Jalen Jones and some of the other guys we didn't see him we didn't see them on.

52:04 Primarily offensive plays, we'd have to go back and look at the special teams play. If anybody knows how to get all 22 during the game, please message boundary Corner podcast so we can actually pull that feed in. So we know where everybody is, but the game plan tonight, Brian didn't dictate. We're running up to a, we were running fast, we were running where we needed multiple the game plan was we were freaking waiting for the call to get in alignment about 14 seconds. Yep. We were we were definitely Ball control. We did not want them. How to have the ball? We were taking our time. We deliberate with our play calling, we were being delivered with our execution.

52:44 Absolutely. And Brian. And me, and you talking here beforehand, it took me back to the Fuente or to the Oklahoma State game back in the bowl, back in 2017. In that game was exactly like that. Exactly like that. We were, we were slowing down. We were going to play very slow. You had James Washington, you had Mason Rudolph. They were hell of a tandem. Oklahoma state scored a lot of points and in that game who lost 3021. We also had in that game. You can go back and recollect. Brian, we had a fumble inside, the 10-yard line, which you know, wants to make you lose your freaking mind.

53:32 I'm because if you remember as early in that game, I think we were up 7. Nothing where it's like, are we up 73 or something like that? Where it's like if we score here, they're going to have to do things a little bit different because they had to but the time we're not too heavy, they had, somebody had a good running back that a good wide receiver for And it was just like we're slowing to a snail's pace. If you're going to beat us You're going to pop some big plays, that's fine but you're going to have to do it in. Your defense is going to have to suffer. Unfortunately for that game we had crucial turnovers at different points in time. You know we had the fumble and we had an interception. Tonight, the only one turnover.

54:15 Yep. One turnover. We get we out game them. Three to one on turnovers. I'll take that back. No, 32 on turnovers. So we only really plus one of the turnover category tonight. Yeah. So let's talk about bb. Bb 3, the QB, Do you think Brian yet a pretty efficient night. Especially did a great job with his pocket. Awareness with his knowing when to tuck and go knowing when to keep eyes down field, I like that. He took a chance to thread the needle to James Mitchell.

54:56 On that touchdown. That was a ballsy, ballsy, Play Ball, Z plate. But I think he sought a to I think he felt like one of my boys. Going to get this small fire, this thing, it went right past the Defenders hand and he was high enough where Mitchell could make the play. So it was like it was a calculated risk but definitely a ballsy through there and but I like the fact that he took that risk there. But the thing that impressed me the most was his pocket awareness and knowing when to when the moving the pocket when to step up in the pocket when to take off out of the pocket he did he did a really good job there.

55:38 And that extended some extended, some drives for us took what could have been a negative play or a no Gainer. Tournament to a five or six yard gain. That's all one. One in particular we drop back looked like it was about to get sex stepped up in the pocket, kind of went down the line of scrimmage a little bit more guys, bearing down on them took off got a 7-yard gain so I thought he was about to either. Throw it away or take the sack. There ended up getting the 7-yard gain for us. So those type of plays are like with the game within a game that quarterbacks kind of in your they are and I think he did a good job with that where he needs to get more consistent is obviously some of the the short passes.

56:22 You know. We had one that ended up getting intercepted. You had a couple that the screen is black sheer, screened of rescue that year. Yeah. That screams like that if that had been executed the way you want with just enough touch. I mean he had he had room to run for days so that would have been another big run there for us. Same way with overthrowing the little swinger out for the little half way, I'm going to call her call into half wheel. He has worth blowing it like six yards, but the little half wheel and it was late in the game. If he hits that last year has about 15 yards, up the sideline before probably near, then there's can get us.

57:02 We definitely has to work on That run definitely has to be more consistent, but there were things I did like within throwing the ball and that was some of the feeds and some of the throws down the sideline that he made. There was a big 12 tray. Yes, beautiful. That could have been placed any perfect with the coverage. Yep. And then he had a, you know, the fade to say they got called back. The second fade, the trade that was Pi that didn't get called We G all those. Yeah that was that was Tony. I was Joker was Tony he was hooking if they caught a daily pi and they didn't call that. It's just like what are you doing for their hands? By like know people, his arm like this, this wasn't Hand by because tray you can see trailers trying to get the arm like up, like he is literally stopping the arm. Yep.

57:57 That in say what you will they call that and we're at the one-yard line we get in and it's really unlikely. It's going to call it. Sweet Jets who James Mitchell case would give James a second test. I'm gonna go back to something. You just said a few minutes ago about Braxton and his pocket awareness and his scrambling ability. Is he might Vic tie rod beer and marking it, he's not but he has an unbelievable screaming, ability to do not sell it short, do not Stella short, that there are going to be times this year, where unlike the past there's room times, where it's like, oh shit.

58:40 We're going to lose four yards here that he's going to scramble get out of it and get a positive game. Yeah. Is he doesn't have, he doesn't have that like the the game breaker. The that mentality. That like a vacatur that a tie rod has but he's got speed and again the awareness of the pocket to know when to take advantage of that speed and I think that's going to be an asset for us. He doesn't have their twitch does not have their quit. I will be pulling with that but when he recognizes it, he doesn't have a pass play and he can get two, three steps. He can get going, he accelerates, he celebrates fast and he's got pretty good top end.

59:23 Like I said, like you said that the twitch, the being able to, you know, take that that one one, good move and turn it into a touchdown for 40 50 yards. Haven't seen that from him right. There is going to be always got playing speed to do that. Yep, there is going to be one. Play that Brad for Nielsen. Trey Turner. Justin .8 just walk away and look at it that design play where Trey kind of went out and ran a smash. He was wide open. Yeah, couple motion and it pulled that safety over entry beat has Guy.

1:00:08 And he missed it. If he hits that in at the point, I'm if he had hit that tree walks in and I think at that time it would have been a 17-point lead and I think we should have been like points. Yep, ballgame ballgame that that would have been the dagger at that point in time in the game and just you know, that that's the ones you can't miss know. We got lucky tonight. We got lucky, we missed it, but also Bron We want 1710 in this era of college football, we won 17 to 10, but you know what makes me feel kind of half bad, half good, but you got, we could ask or 31 points tonight.

1:00:54 Yeah, we definitely got points on the field as he is big, as big as this game was for us. We still left points on the field. This could have been a better victory for us than it was. We could have been definitely definitely room to Oh no doubt. Well, that's a piece. We could have blown the doors off and they can't say that they can't know, Carolina fan can come and say we should have beat y'all about to touch down bullshit. We should have beat ya'll B 3, maybe 24 points. Yeah, I mean, we had you at arm's length, the entire game and, you know, there was only there at the end. Was there even really the feel of the threat?

1:01:36 Okay, well, this this this is going to happen. This might happen. Whatever it is, Virginia Tech controlled the flow of that game from start to finish. And, you know, missing a field goal, not getting a call, putting the ball on the ground, you know, if you let them I mean straight up. This could have been really ugly. And to a point you're like, well, that sucks. But to a point it's almost like no, this is good. We'll get that shit on tape in a, in a win against a big time opponents. And then improve on it from that point, right? Damn, right. First time in seven years that we beat a top ten team of any site that was the Ohio State game Ohio State. Yeah, first time since 2009 Miami in the rain, that would be the top 10 team in Lane.

1:02:32 Justin Fuente, gets another rank win. And you know what can we just get like a month to prepare for every game we play, like 38 say abre to say about what does he does? A damn good job of preparing to open a season especially against the quality, opponent opponent. And let's talk a little bit about trickle down here because that's going to that's going to matter and it will see how much it matters later. But It can't be undersold, the impact that beating a North Carolina team. That's been eating your lunch a little bit, especially in the off, the field stuff. Uh-huh.

1:03:16 If it's nice to get a victory and shut those fuckers up a little bit right. Dang, right. And there's nice to get a little bit of momentum on that recruiting trail that you can point say, hey, he might have a top 10 and top 15 classes. Step back to back. We still I'll beat their ass. We're being all your High Caliber. We're being your high-caliber guys. You know, he's coming to Virginia. He's coming to 275 and taken guys, and he's coming to the 804 I'm taking, guys, we still up in the ass. Max been there three years, he's two and three in the year he won was the most fucked-up year in the history of Collegiate football, in the history of Collegiate football. It's never been anything like that before. We're out there playing with literally backups, and guys, Guys who are having one day to prepare. We got Walk-Ons out there guys.

1:04:14 And let's just say this to Braun because this is the one that really, really, to me even matters, even more. We've been in the AC since 2004 right now, since 2004, unc's be this 4 times 4. Hopefully, that's why you are a rival. You beat us four times. Go steal all the recruits. You don't know how to coach, in Max prove it. I'll say it, I'll say it aloud, he was having freaking top five classes at Texas. Is last three years there, and he was freaking barely winning eight games. I think the problem is that he's a decent coach in a damn good recruiter.

1:05:00 Yes. And that only gets you so far against quality opponents and we'll see if he ends up putting things together here in North Carolina. But you know looking at this team if they play the same way they played today, I mean that's that's at least a three lost team, right? At least a three loss tea. Well, see how Miami looks tomorrow against Alabama. Yeah, but we'll see. We'll see how I'm Alabama looks against their. They don't play Boston College, we do NC State look good last night. I think they played them this year.

1:05:40 NC State is needing to watch damn right at defense is nasty. I completely blew that out probably went to say, if you told me last year that the NC State that we played in our first official game in 2020 would have been number one, the NC State that finished the season. Number two, the NC State that opened the season and 2021 they're going to make some noise, I'm looking out for them. I don't necessarily think they're ready to challenge Clemson. Not but that's that's not a that's not a game that Clemson's going to kind of just by default. Okay, well they're the, they're the second-best in our in our division of the ACC we're going to kind of put the screws to him.

1:06:23 Like we normally do and keep moving. Well, other things we're finding out the night. Right. Duke is bad bad, bad bad. I will now have to really watch the West Virginia game Ryan? Yeah, I told you we lose that one. You said:. I was wrong. But you received it. I was wrong model, hold on. But what did you say? Would have to happen if we want this game. Now, I've told you the keys to Victory. I was right about the keys to Vinnie. I was wrong about the prediction, I was wrong on two fronts, I predicted, we lose, I predicted that both teams of scoring the 30s and neither came close. I think Bay has made a lot of money tonight because apparently the short for all over us, the general public was all over you and see I guarantee you I think the lie was 63 after what happened last year and then what happened two years ago, the biggest is about to build another building because of this game, everyone was hammering the over and they came up well short and they probably knew after halftime that that was all all bets are off on the if they Hammer the over. Well shit we're not going to hit the over here but okay, we're going to find about.

1:07:43 We're going to find out a ton of that mine. We are gonna find out a ton about Tennessee or excuse me pit. Next week when they play Tennessee, it pit looks like trash Miss Tennessee. We Tennessee played last night. It's almost yeah. Yeah. I'm not worrying about them as much and then something that's already one based on how much they lost in the offseason that I felt. I feel pretty good about I mean it's at least a Pick'em, especially in Lane, it's going to be interesting to see how they handle Tennessee. I mean if that's an out rate law oil then then you already start questioning if it's 10 points or more. Yep.

1:08:26 That pit team can struggle again. They're going to live and die by what Kenny pickets able to do. Which I mean we've seen The Good the Bad and the Ugly pretty decent floor. You know? He's not going to be awful because they need him to be something because they just can't run the ball. And are you sure about all he scored zero points? Last time he s links a them. This is that I've got yeah, I'll give I'll say that was an awful outing for him. Almost transparent Allowed, by the way, he last two times fans have been in Lane Stadium. The Virginia Tech defense is giving up Five Points. A game people in the stadium.

1:09:12 You be? Let's just add of the day. Let's look Sarah. You know, we're looking at some of the folks in the coast we've looked at you obviously bad. Um UVA. I don't think we find out much about tomorrow playing. Will you marry except if they lose cheeses Christ, they're going to do, we don't know much about UVA unless it's a nail-biter, or they lose. Yeah. One. But I think we, I think we found out a little more about them in, not this weekend, but next week when they play Illinois although who knows where Nebraska is, but I think breath and feeling was like, got something going in Illinois. Yeah, make fun of Bret, Bielema, all you want.

1:09:53 I think the guy knows how to cook Big 10 football and I think he probably is going to get them in the right direction. So, you know, we've already got keep them competitive in that League. They may be home when it, but it's been truly. They're going to get there. Eventually they're going to be a team that if he gets what he wants and does what he wants to do. It's one of those how long it play those guys, he's in a find 335 down, guys, he's gonna lose his shit out of us. I don't play that Brian. There's no way. No way that your season prediction can be 100%. Correct. You have to be happy about that, right? I do I do you know?

1:10:40 I'm already. I've already taken the the L on that one and so we done celebrating the like yes sons of bitches! Hell yes prove me wrong. Yes! I mean if they prove me wrong and keep keep the the w train moving here. Yes. You know that her name still going to be a struggle. Miami still going to be a Raghu lasts till he sees going to be based on tomorrow night. You know, I still like and especially after what I saw from fucking North Carolina today. I still like Miami to win the when the coastal you did say that but but we're looking better than my fault. We're looking better and I thought because we've turned it back and it looks like a defense from the 8A. We're playing defense first again, but with an offense that is dynamic enough to score points when it needs to. So if that formula can be carried across the board against the other big opponent that we have this year and we don't have those let down games that we occasionally have in the season. You know, maybe this can, this can be something, we'll see. But cautiously optimistic cautiously optimistic is the frame of mind.

1:11:58 I'm in right now. Hey, I'm before we close it out here tonight. I'm really hoping that game day shows that tomorrow when they open up, that's a big swing in the Miss across the board. All of you, all of you. Well, folks, unless something's broke brine, which I have not In the last few minutes here. Nope, that's going to wrap up this episode of The Boundary Corner podcast on a winning Saturday morning. We made it. Hey, I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian Sigler. Visit our website, boundary corner be t.com to listen to all of our episodes. While you're there, don't forget to follow us on Twitter, Facebook and subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Amazon or apple.

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