A depleted Hokies roster walked into Scott Stadium uninspired and outmatched, leaving Charlottesville with a 27-7 defeat that was hard at times to watch. We Tell the Truth about the end of a season that was lost weeks ago. We then touch briefly on the feverish rush to Early Signing Day, how James Franklin's staff might look, and make our Big Screener picks of the week.
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floor for a couple seconds here,
but.
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Yeah, as most of you know, guys,
we were not, we did not do an
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episode last week.
And there was a, there was a
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good reason for that on, on last
Monday, some of you know, my,
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my, my dad passed away.
And obviously it was a, it was
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a, it was a tough week last week
with, with family in town and
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just kind of going through the
grieving process.
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So I know a lot of you, some of
you in the comments even
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already, and a bunch of folks
were reaching out to me into
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this week and into the start of
the start of this week as well.
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So just want to say thank you
for that.
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Thank you for the support and
appreciate your patience with us
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last week.
Yeah, appreciate it y'all.
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Sometimes we don't do these
podcasts and there's reasons
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behind them and you know
something, you know, we made the
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decision last week to not do it
and it is what it is.
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It was UVA week.
Don't worry.
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Brian texted me numerous hateful
things back later in the week to
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know he was in good spirits when
it came to hating UVA.
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That happened and as it said,
their family does come first
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here.
So let's talk about before we
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talk about football, I'm
literally wondering when we're
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going to start the program
because the basketball game that
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just ended 20 minutes ago or so.
Man.
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They broke the losing.
Streak.
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They broke the losing streak.
You know, we we had talked about
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it with with everything going on
last week and watching some of
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the games, like, you know, the
wall is kind of the glue for
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this team with the with the
rebounding with with being able
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to stretch the floor out a
little bit, just overall
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athleticism.
I mean, he's the guy that kind
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of gets the wheels moving.
So you're without him for
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probably, it sounds like for at
least a little bit more than
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more than likely looking like
the rest of this month.
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With that being said, I think if
it if it had to happen, this is
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the time for it to happen.
That's the guy that has been a
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part of the squad.
You're going back to last year.
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He understands the system.
Him missing time, is that going
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to probably hurt chemistry or
anything at all?
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But what it does do is help some
of these other guys create
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larger roles within the team,
kind of understand where they
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fit in a little bit better.
I think you know, you're going
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to see an improved team from
this experience going into ACC
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play.
The downside is that you know,
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you're, you're, you're noticing
that when this team gets pushed,
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they don't really have that guy
that can just kind of get them
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through the tough stretches of a
game.
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And and that and you'll see
these lols happen and you'll see
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these these moments where they
just don't look like the team we
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expect them to be.
And then all of a sudden, you
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know, it clicks back in a little
bit and you know, thankfully you
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scrape by in this one.
You know, this is probably a a
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10 to 15 point win if if low
walls in that game, but a win is
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a win.
You take it and you move on to
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the next.
And you know, hopefully you can
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still work through the rest of
this non conference with very
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few blemishes and get into ACC
play and get him back.
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Yeah.
And I think too, Brian, to that
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point, what we saw today was a
more cohesive unit than the last
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two games down in the Bahamas
where he didn't play.
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That is one of the downsides of
having those tournaments, right?
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It's back-to-back to back.
There is no time for gay planet.
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You just need to go play.
And we we clearly missed the
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rebounding against both Saint
Mary's and VCE.
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And with what I've noticed in it
was in this game as well as
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those two, I got a chance to
watch more take basketball than
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not.
Probably did all last year and
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the last week and 1/2.
What you're missing tonight is
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some of those rebounds.
How many times early in the
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season, and I know it wasn't
some of the best competition.
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Providence was pretty good
beaten Colorado State was good
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squad to win probably 2 plot one
losses.
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But how many times did we see it
we'd again, we get the ball,
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push it down the floor easy
layup alley to the wall quick.
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And how easy is that to say when
you have a 8 point lead, you you
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get a rebound, make a quick
tournament, it's ten.
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Well, they've got they've got a
press now you see the ball every
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time there is no push anymore.
That's not having to go to the
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wall, not having their getting
murdered on the boards.
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Saint Mary's I had no issues
with getting killed by BCU on
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the board turn because VCU
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have never been a great
rebounding team.
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When they murder, you're on the
boards.
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It sucks.
So like that would probably hurt
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more, even though the 57% from 3
point range by BCU clearly was
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the difference in that game.
But now we go through South
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Carolina, there's a win there.
Mason's going to be tough this
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Saturday.
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They're.
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level.
I would imagine from from a
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talent overall talent
perspective, if you play a
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better, better game overall and
they're not shooting the three
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as well as VCU did in that game,
you know, you're probably right
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there.
But I think, you know, we got to
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come in here.
We'll go ahead and throw it up
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here.
Yeah, I think that's that's,
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that's big more looks.
I think we're starting to see
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him be a little more aggressive
offensively.
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As you know, he had was less
aggressive, you know, first,
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first game or two and then then
kind of exploded and then we've
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kind of seen a little dip and
now we're starting to come back
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around.
Yeah, I think, I think we'll see
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him kind of work into the style
of play both in just NCAA
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basketball in general and as we
get into the ACC play just a
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little bit more of an aggressive
style of play.
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I think he's still adjusting to
that a little bit.
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And.
Figure it out.
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Well, it's Euro versus American
ball.
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So there it is significantly
more physical and it is guys who
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are who have more burst.
I wouldn't even say speed burst.
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It's the most of the NCAA
players have significantly
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quicker first steps than most
Euro players.
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Back to Mason.
Mason's undefeated, but if you
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look at who they've beaten,
Wofford, Winthrop, Catawba,
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yeah, I said Catawba, New
Hampshire, Jacksonville, Ohio,
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Florida Atlantic, JMU, Cornell,
this is effectively going to be
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their first challenge game where
there's going to be a team on
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the other side of the floor with
more, with as much if not more
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talent than them.
So it's going to be interesting
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how they handle that.
But if they can, but if the
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Hoagies can get through that
game with the West, Brian, me
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and you were talking about it
beforehand, you know, after that
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game, it's effectively Western
Carolina, Maryland, Eastern
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Shore and Elon.
That should be three wins.
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It should be.
That should be three wins and
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the question is can Toby Lewall
get back by December 31st for
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the UVA game?
That would that's the key.
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That would be ideal.
And but right now we don't know
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the injury.
I know they're saying it's a
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foot.
Chris Coleman saying he said he
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thinks it's the metatarsal.
If there's any podiatrist out
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there or people that go to a
podiatrist and want to act as
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experts on this, please comment
in the comment section and we
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will throw this up.
So yeah, but overall with with
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basketball, you know, seven and
two and again, the where in the
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past, the losses where you just
kind of hang your head like, oh,
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these are terrible B CS probably
going to win the A10 Saint
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Mary's probably making a
tournament.
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So you're looking at quad 1
losses.
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And as we know, sometimes as
long as you can get the LS are
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in quad one, not quads 2-3 and
four, that's the way to get into
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the tournament.
Yeah.
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And I mean then you still, you
know, you're going to have a a
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really good opportunity in ACC
play to get some quality wins.
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I mean the ACC is going to be a
much improved conference this
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year compared with last year.
So you you won't quite have the
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lack of opportunity to get those
quality wins like you had the
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last couple years in the ACC.
Well, yeah, I mean, look, I
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mean, Syracuse upset Tennessee
tonight, Duke beat Florida.
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We'll do some be good
regardless.
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So we shouldn't even talk about
that.
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But overall, just in the
beginning of the season, the ACC
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significantly proved they're
trying to save five teams.
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I think it's more like an 8 bid
league this year and if it plays
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better, maybe not.
All right, I don't know.
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I got I got to do some before we
start telling the truth about
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Saturday.
Man.
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That was tough to watch.
I'll tell y'all, I'll tell
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y'all.
I watched it live and I have not
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put a single fucking clip back
on my screen since then.
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I could not watch that game one
more time.
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I couldn't even watch the
condensed man.
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It was.
It was one of those games where
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I'm like, we're bad in every
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There's like, you know, a
handful of plays you can point
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it and say, all right, well,
that's all right.
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And then the rest of it's like,
all right, well, we look like
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we're outmatched.
We look like we don't belong in
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the same field.
We we didn't, we didn't, we
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didn't even play as well as we
had played most of the season.
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I know you had two big players
out on offense and that
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definitely hurt, but at the same
time you got to play with what's
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out there and I feel like we
still didn't put our best, best
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foot forward.
In there.
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Oh no, no, no, best foot forward
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I mean, you know, as far as the
well, I mean, Overton, Overton
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was solid.
We got to talk about it, you
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know, you got to let it out
because if not, you know,
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emotional issues, Brian, do you
know there is a little pop up
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there on the right side?
Oh yeah, that's the the comments
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are scrolling on the side.
There.
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Oh, OK.
I didn't know if you were, but
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the the UPS plots OK as long as
you knew the upside was seeing
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Overton run.
Over Overton had a good game.
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Snoop Peterson catching the
touchdown because I I texted at
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least four people scoring St.
games tonight because we
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couldn't do Jack shit.
And then he ran a damn just a
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little slant and just ran away
from him.
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Which again shows you his
athletic ability.
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But can I tell you what the bad
to me was?
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What's that?
The bad to me was when we were
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down 14, nothing at half, and
then they score again early
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third quarter.
I don't give Montgomery all the
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credit or whatever you want to
say, but him not putting in Pop
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Watson just to get a shot?
I don't like that.
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Hey, look who finally decided to
jump it.
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Right into it, baby.
Right into it, sliding in.
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We, we are trying to talk about
the UVA game Tally.
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I mean, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm
saying let me get my piece so
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you can hear.
Where I am, he said.
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Throw it in the fucking trash.
Well, we all threw it in the
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trash.
I mean, I'm still drinking, but
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for real, him not putting in
Watson, at least at some point
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in that game, was a travesty.
Kyron just could not throw the
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ball Saturday, just could not.
And him not putting in pop, it
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just seems bad.
It seems almost like, no, I'm
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I'm riding with this guy and
that's it.
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And you can't do that, so go
ahead.
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Yeah, that is that mean.
UVA was the better team, they
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deserved to win, blah, blah,
blah.
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We can go into all that.
The coaches that was on the
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field, Coach Monty who was the
head coach, you know, interim
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head coach, he didn't want to
win.
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He didn't care about winning.
He was ready for it to be over.
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It showed.
I mean we didn't do no half back
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pass.
No Alabama Internet.
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Oh, no passes.
We didn't do so.
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We lost you for a second,
basically, Tally, I, I could
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hear a little bit of you
basically, Tally said.
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We didn't try trick plays.
We didn't try anything weird.
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We just were like, we're going
to run the ball and throw the
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ball.
Tally if you got the.
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Problem is we didn't commit to
the like if we go run the ball,
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run the ball, yeah, I feel like
we we did that pretty somewhat
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well early and then we got off
of it and then we got down to a
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point where you felt like we had
to go back and just sling the
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ball around.
It wasn't a game plan that
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really made a lot of sense.
And that's that's from, you
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know, kick off running it out of
the damn end zone to the six
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yard line and it and it just
went downhill from there.
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It's done, done.
So give them their.
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Give them their tea leaves,
their flowers, whatever.
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You know, only the third time
this century, century.
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And it ain't like we're 10 years
into the century.
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We're bored.
We're we're, we're 1/4 of the
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way through this century and
they've only won this game.
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Three times.
Look, so the way I see this game
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for for UVA, you know, a win is
a win.
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You got to you got to give them
credit for going there and
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handling business.
But at the same time, this isn't
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significantly different than the
Maryland bowl game.
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No.
From a from a, from a roster
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standpoint for the Hokies, like,
all right, yeah, you, you you
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won the game, but you basically
were playing the B team at best.
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Yeah, so.
That's what it was.
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It was B team significant
players out.
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You know, the the one thing that
stuck out, somebody put on here,
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put, put, I'll put it up.
I mean teams.
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And you know what?
I saw somebody say something.
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Was it Ricky Leblue?
It was.
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Ricky Leblue.
I don't.
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Know if they've been called out.
How many times have we called
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Stew hold out on this program.
Oh.
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Man man, still been on the shot
for a while.
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He has gotten dressed down
numerous times on this program.
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So to say, Ricky, I'll say, MM,
tell Ricky.
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Listen, listen to all our
episodes.
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The receipts from Boundary
Corner has been calling him out
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really since Vanderbilt of last
year and through when we had
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some good moments, we gave him
his flowers, but it was a lot of
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you messing up.
So, but as far as it goes that
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that's it.
No bowl game, nothing like that.
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Season's over football wise,
again, it's us who are roughly
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fans of 25 and 30 years, right?
Worst season we've ever seen.
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Worst season, the 2:00 and 11:00
or two and nine season a few
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years ago that was bad, but at
least there was an excuse.
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This was no excuse.
So it is what it is.
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But we're going to keep telling
the truth and we aren't going to
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go extra in depth on the
recruits and all the guys we've
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picked up over the last few
days.
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We're going to do that next
week.
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Why?
There's still more guys that are
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going to get in the boat
tomorrow, maybe even a few after
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that.
We want to talk about them next
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week sort of in full once
everybody signed, sealed,
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delivered and we know they're
enrolling.
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But I'm going to ask both of.
Y'all, Robbie?
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He's not in the comments
section, but he's in our text
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messages.
He's like, what?
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Fucking Stew.
He might be at Catawba next
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year.
I don't even know what.
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It is AD. 3 is AD 3 school he
need to be there.
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So let's talk about this.
We're going to talk about all
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the kids next week and who they
are and where they're coming
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from.
But I'm going to start with
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Tally.
Did you expect this type of flip
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in 10 days?
You did, Tally said.
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Yes.
I did I mean honestly, I didn't
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know what to expect my comments
to y'all even on here too.
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I say it and to all the people
on Twitter that say it, this is
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going you know we James
Franklin, I wouldn't worry about
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him.
We need to get this.
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I say it.
Blacksburg has never seen
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something like what James
Franklin has to offer.
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Now what he has to offer.
I didn't 100% know taking a
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recruiting class from. 118 to
36.
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And 30, No, no, no, it's 30 now.
We are in the top 30.
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We are #3030.
To beat from 1:18 to 30 in two
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weeks.
Ridiculous.
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So I knew what he could do.
And then you still got some
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people just saying, well, my, my
problem wasn't his recruiting is
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what he does on the field.
People we had on the field, like
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when our 2 deep got gone, when
our 2 deep got gone, we're just
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out there playing with the 5th,
6th, 7th guy on the roster and
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they can't compete against
things.
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You know, no disrespect to the
kids they're trying to play.
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Some of them need development,
some of them maybe shouldn't be
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here.
So he's going to bring guys that
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deserve to be on the field from
at least the one to the three.
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You know your your two to 3D is
going to be guys that can play.
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He's going to build a roster.
So I did expect him to be able
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to do that and it's exciting to
see.
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What about you, Curtis?
Well, for, for me, like I, I
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talked, I, I, I talked with Mike
McDaniel today and it's one of
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those we knew it could be good,
but this is like here.
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And if he does, what would throw
up on this right here if he gets
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seized tomorrow?
It it, I don't know if you can
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get much higher because it's
basically flipping almost that
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entire that entire class from
Penn State holding on to who you
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needed to hold on to in this
class, getting Wilder back in.
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I mean, it's crazy.
And again, like me and Brown
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were talking about it to go and
you just mentioned it now to go
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100 spots in 10 days.
And it's not like, oh, we're
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just getting there.
It's like that old, what's our
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old number, Brian?
We always talked about it.
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Got to be 88 average or higher.
88 average or high, we are an 88
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average or higher.
And if you're wondering what we
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are currently, let me pull it up
here because I had it just a few
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minutes ago. 88.23 Most blue
star or blue chip recruits we've
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had in well over a decade
getting recruited.
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And I mean, you still got, you
know, you talk about siege, but
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you also still have, you know,
Polydorum play Jackson Ford,
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Terry Wiggins.
Yeah, there's, there's still
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some, some fruit on the on the
on the tree for tomorrow.
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So being if you hit on two of
those, great.
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If you hit on three or more,
it's crazy.
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Even if he did, Even if he
didn't get anybody else though,
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like right now, Curtis, if if we
got no more people to sign,
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which I know we will, but if we
got no more people to sign, how
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do you, what would you think?
How do you feel unbelievable
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right now if we just begin right
now?
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If it ended right now the OL is
built with size.
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You've got some defensive
lineman with size.
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The one that happened tonight,
which came out of nowhere.
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Harley up from Gonzaga.
I mean, you know what, I got a
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text from Phil a while ago and I
won't pose this to Brian and
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then I'll I'll I'll let you go
with the tally.
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Bill asked me about two hours
ago is the Mid-Atlantic nail
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techs.
I think I, I think it's, I think
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we have as good of a stake as
any team in the entire country
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at this point.
Like I, I think you put us right
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there with any of the SEC teams
that like to reach up into the
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Mid-Atlantic right now.
We don't even know who Penn
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State's head coach is going to
be.
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You know, they just got outbid
apparently by BYU.
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So.
Go support Crumble.
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Cookie go crumble, baby.
You hear about that, Sally.
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I know you've been traveling.
You did hear about it?
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Those are trying to keep them.
I know, but you've been running
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and watching hoops games today.
But go support Crumble Cookie.
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I've seen that, Curtis, let me
let me take, let me throw
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something else at you for you to
think about.
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All right, so James Franklin
comes to Virginia Tech, right
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when you ask that question about
does Tech kind of rule the
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Mid-Atlantic, Right.
OK, we know what South Carolina
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is now.
Recruits know what South
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Carolina is now.
Won't say nothing bad.
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We're just going to say
everybody knows what it is.
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Penn State still doesn't have a
coach.
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What coach can they bring in?
It really can recruit above what
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Franklin does.
Everybody, I mean, Bill
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Belichick's still going to get
some kids.
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I think he's got 39 kids in
their class, but North Carolina
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UVA, North Carolina State, I
mean, what school, what, what
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recruiters are going to be able
to out recruit And this is not
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even his staff yet now.
EA is having their best season
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since 2003.
Yeah, and they're the worst
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recruiting team in the
conference.
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Who?
Who?
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When?
Curtis asked that question.
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I'm really trying to wrap my
mind around, not just ACC the
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point who who can recruit.
I don't think he's going to
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bring it.
I know another tech WS put in
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Hartline, but Hartline's more of
Highland Valley and The thing is
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with him, if he comes to Penn
State right now, is he going to
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bring anybody from Ohio State?
He'll bring a couple, but he's
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he's not bringing like Franklin.
He's not bringing half of
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recruiting class with him.
Yeah.
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Yep, he might bring.
He might bring 3 or 4 guys,
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maybe five guys.
He's not bringing half.
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And the portal ain't even
started.
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And right now they don't have
anybody committed.
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No.
They have 0 fucking commits
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right now.
They don't even have a coach
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committee, so they can't.
Have one they can't think.
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About how dumb.
Think about how dumb these
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people are now I've been on
Twitter.
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Listen.
Even fight people.
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Even fight people on Twitter.
Listen everybody in.
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The chat thank y'all thank y'all
I my back has been hurt since
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Saturday and I've never dealt
with back pain and it sucks.
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So I'm, I'm barely hanging on on
some some muscle relaxers and
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whine or something right now.
But this is what I I just want
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to say thank you to the chat.
Thank you to everybody who
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follows me on on X or has come
across my timeline on X to keep
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me entertained while I'm laying
in the bed.
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Because if nothing else,
Virginia Tech Twitter has been
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on Penn State's ass.
I love it, I love it.
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I just love it, man.
It's been some new.
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It's been some new accounts that
popped up and I'm trying to
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follow everybody that just have
had me rolling.
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It hurts me to laugh right now.
My back hurts so bad that it
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hurts to laugh.
So I just been in there trying
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my best to hold these laughs in
from people jumping on Penn
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State Twitter.
Stay on them.
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Had somebody come on that Curtis
and say somebody said hey y'all,
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we need to quit talking about
Penn State to focus on ourselves
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and you said fuck that, fuck
them.
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No, they asked for.
We didn't ask for what.
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They and what they did is they
took I think and everybody's
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going to say well on field
coaching.
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I think as a whole sense James
Franklin is a top 15 coach.
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00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,040
He is top 15 coach.
You don't win that much, you
443
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,760
don't move that deep, you don't
recruit that good.
444
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,960
Again, my worry was always can
he get the amount of talent to
445
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,640
Blacksburg?
Well, right now, the honeymoon
446
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,840
phase, he's not having an issue
now.
447
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,800
We'll go now, we'll go a little
bit deeper into some of that.
448
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,600
I know later on in some other
shows, but I did look up 1 stat
449
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,880
and I'm not the stats guy.
Everybody knows that guy is and
450
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,040
I ain't even been talking to
him.
451
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,440
I look this up for myself.
You want to know what Lane
452
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,520
Kiffin's record is as a head
coach compared to James
453
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,640
Franklin's record?
Lane Kiffin's record from last
454
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,640
time I looked was 117 on wins,
53 loss.
455
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:17,280
James Franklin's was 128 wins,
60 losses, pretty comparable.
456
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,520
I mean, how do you, how do you
say, how do you say this is the
457
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,120
top of the line guy?
This is the bottom of the barrel
458
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,760
guy?
I'm not saying you're that both
459
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,720
of them are right for any
school, but when you have people
460
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,960
that come and talk about just
coaching from what a lot of
461
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,680
people have said, oh, James
Franklin, he sucks, he's
462
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,840
horrible.
He's this, he's that.
463
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,480
I'm like, but wins are wins and
losses are losses.
464
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,480
I understand y'all saying he
didn't win the big games.
465
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,640
Sure, the big games for y'all.
He didn't win the big games for
466
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,000
y'all when he was at Vanderbilt.
Did he win the big games because
467
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,280
anybody Vanderbilt beats,
especially when he was that was
468
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,760
a big game.
So, well, he.
469
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,240
Beat Tennessee and Florida and
Georgia and Georgia in the same
470
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,440
year.
Or or in the In the course of
471
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,880
three years, he beat off.
They're not big wins, though,
472
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,640
Brian, Those aren't big wins at
Vanderbilt he beat.
473
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,360
Ohio State, he beat Michigan.
Yeah, yeah.
474
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:11,680
We don't want to talk about
that, Curtis.
475
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,000
We just want to talk about he's
not a good coach.
476
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,560
Y'all got y'all got him and he
sucks, but then he flips the
477
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,840
whole recruiting class so
somebody believes it.
478
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,400
Well, let's let's.
Also, talk about hold on Curtis.
479
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,440
Hold on Brian, I ain't.
Going he's he's, he's on.
480
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,600
He's on a roll right now.
OK, go back.
481
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,200
Let's go.
Look, yeah, look at my boy Will
482
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,840
in the in the in the in the
comments, he said.
483
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,160
Not to mention Lane's a, a, a
trash human being.
484
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,520
I ain't going to go that far
because I like Lane.
485
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,120
But to go follow him and see
some of the stuff he did, well,
486
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,520
he was at USCUSC.
He wasn't just say losing.
487
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,520
I think his record, that was
like 28 and 15.
488
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,720
They left him at the They left.
Him at.
489
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,720
The Yeah, they left.
They left him.
490
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,040
Now, when he left Tennessee,
they threw tomatoes at him.
491
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,400
So when he was at Alabama, Dick
Sabin wouldn't let him talk
492
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,080
because he thought he was an
idiot.
493
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,000
Come on, man.
But now he's the darling of he's
494
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,840
the darling of college football.
Now he's the greatest coach
495
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,240
ever.
I'm I'm going to put this up
496
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,880
real quick.
Let y'all read that.
497
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:26,080
Let.
Me see what it says Yep so.
498
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,000
I'm going to tell you.
Can I say something real quick?
499
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,360
Thanks, Chris makes Ben safe and
I'm going to tell you something.
500
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,240
Go back and look and, and, and
I'm and I'm going to tie this to
501
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,280
Tech because hey, I got that
compass right up here.
502
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,240
If Frank Beamer, if there had
been a playoff from like 1995 to
503
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,080
like 2011, Frank Beamer would
have made it like I think they
504
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,880
said 10 times.
That's what we want, right?
505
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,480
You ain't got to be perfect.
It ain't got to be every year,
506
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,160
but you got to be fighting for
it every year.
507
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,520
And I think what they've done
and Brian, I think I sent, I
508
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:06,000
think I told you this, you took
a top 15 coach, you kept him in
509
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,000
the same area and you put a damn
chip on his shoulder.
510
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,040
And then what you did is you
took a program who hasn't been
511
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,880
invested in football for the
last 10 years and everybody
512
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,880
realized, hey, we need to write
big checks.
513
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,280
And they wrote some really big
ass checks to say go do it.
514
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:32,080
It is a perfect storm.
And then the primary challenger
515
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,600
to recruits in the Mid-Atlantic
can't get their shit straight.
516
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,800
They still can't get their shit
straight.
517
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,560
Because I think what happened is
everybody knows Pat Kraft's a
518
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,560
piece of shit.
And they're finally figuring
519
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800
out, you know, why James, why he
fired James?
520
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,040
Because James got on his ass
about don't fuck with my roster,
521
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,800
don't fuck with my NAL deals for
my kid, Don't tell me what I'm
522
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,280
doing as a head coach.
And that's why he got called,
523
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,800
because the guy above him said,
I'm going to just get rid of
524
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,200
you.
And now they're paying the
525
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,120
price.
There we go.
526
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,800
I'm glad he did it.
Thank the.
527
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,040
Lord me too me too hold on, hold
on, hold that hold that Robbie
528
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,800
story.
I mean we're firing off in here
529
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,400
all right.
I want to do this before I I I
530
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,720
still want to talk a little bit
more about the money, but I want
531
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,800
to get on this because we I got
to I got to hold y'all's
532
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,680
attention here all right, 3 and
9 football team, but there's
533
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,080
talent here.
I, I told y'all to start
534
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,360
thinking about it, Tally while
you were driving, Brian, while
535
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,600
you were chilling around the
house.
536
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,600
Who has to be on this team next
year?
537
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,720
Y'all just start going through
names and I can chat y'all.
538
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,680
Y'all feel too From the 20/20/25
everybody's got eligibility has
539
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,560
to be on this team next year.
I think.
540
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,920
You know Jeffrey Elberton,
junior.
541
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200
Yeah, exactly.
I think really both, both
542
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,440
running backs, Hawkins and
Overton, I'd love to have both
543
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,840
of them back.
You know when we look at wide
544
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,640
receiver Brody, give him back
the young.
545
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Guys, you have to.
They're young.
546
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,560
You got Keelan, you got Chance.
He's going to be a project.
547
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,520
Snoop Peterkin.
You really want AG back.
548
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,840
If you can get AG back to let
him have a quarterback that can
549
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,960
get him the ball, I mean it's
going to be good.
550
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,600
Have having somebody that has
that experience and that that
551
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,239
amount of leadership in that
unit.
552
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,400
I mean, I feel like he's he's
had to groan from grow from a
553
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,480
leadership standpoint this year
just because of the
554
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,040
circumstances that we were
dealt.
555
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,040
You know, whether it's whether
it's the old man basically
556
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,679
quitting on the team in the
middle of the year.
557
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,320
You know, he ends up, you know,
being the being the kind of
558
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,080
leader in the clubhouse there
for that, for that group as the
559
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,920
season kind of wrapped up here,
You know, flipping to the other
560
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,280
side of the ball, You know, I I
got Copeland and Woodson kind of
561
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,480
circled.
Copeland Woodson, definitely
562
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,600
Caleb Spencer, Caleb Spencer and
probably Isaiah Spencer because
563
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,680
they finally figured out he
could return punts and he made
564
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,760
some moves.
I'll throw, I'll throw you a
565
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:21,880
name right now and I'm looking
at it Benji Gosnell, cause Benji
566
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,840
Gosnell has a year of
eligibility left.
567
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,360
We didn't.
I don't know.
568
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,200
This year they didn't.
Nope.
569
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,400
He had I think 32 catches last
year and this year he had 10.
570
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,080
Well, we talked about at the
start of the season that Titans
571
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,320
are not featured in the passing
game in Monty's offenses.
572
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,480
They have not been historically,
and they definitely weren't this
573
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,240
year.
All right, I got 1.
574
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,680
Steven.
Steven threw it in his big list.
575
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,680
Noah Chambers.
Noah Chambers.
576
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,160
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
577
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,800
Noah Chambers.
Noah.
578
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,400
Somebody put it in the chat.
Somebody put Al Tuner in the
579
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,520
chat as well for him to be a
freshman center.
580
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:05,600
He he showed a lot of good this
year, you know, but it was so
581
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,560
hard, man, because we've seen
people sometime we didn't see
582
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,560
them, you know, some people
left, some people hurt.
583
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,320
Q Reddish.
What about Q Reddish?
584
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,400
Well.
He got hurt.
585
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,720
And that's what I'm saying.
But if you come, we know what he
586
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,760
has to offer.
Do you do you want him back?
587
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,000
Because I think you, you got to
have somebody like that.
588
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,120
Yeah.
Radish is an NFL guy.
589
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,240
And we haven't seen him all year
because of injuries, but Joshua
590
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:33,720
Clark, please.
Yes, Joshua Clark.
591
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,400
Well, then you had guys who were
big time recruits last cycle,
592
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,080
like Platter ball.
I mean, played sometimes this
593
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:46,200
year like, yeah, I don't think
this team is too devoid of
594
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,800
talent.
I think some of the talent are
595
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,040
babies.
And I think with Noah Chambers,
596
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,320
you saw that a lot.
He would be just a he, he knew
597
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,040
where the gap was, but it was
just a slight hesitation to get
598
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,400
there.
And that's not anything about
599
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,840
anything wrong with him, right?
That's just saying as as both of
600
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,640
y'all know, he's young, playing
D1 football as an 18 year old.
601
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,800
Yeah, there's a reason he's a
hesitation because he's not
602
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,200
ready.
He shouldn't be playing right.
603
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,160
Now that's kind of the case.
I think with this roster across
604
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,440
the board.
I think there are a lot of these
605
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,080
guys that saw some time this
year that are going to be very
606
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,120
solid 2 deep players.
If they're, you know, if they
607
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,160
end up being Hokies next year, I
think it's more we need to
608
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,160
improve that frontline a lot
more.
609
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,440
You know, we obviously had depth
issues at cornerback and safety.
610
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,440
We know that.
We talked about that ad nauseam
611
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000
at this point.
You know, we had inconsistent
612
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,560
play at linebacker because we
were either young or it was guys
613
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,920
that were too old and just not
get the job done because they
614
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,160
never got the job done.
Keller, Sorry.
615
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,600
And.
On the other side of the ball,
616
00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:02,040
you had a offensive line that
showed some steps in the running
617
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,080
game but never really put it
together from a pass pro
618
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,720
perspective.
And that only got worse when you
619
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:11,760
started having some trickle down
of some of your your guards
620
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:17,080
getting injured.
You know, you're sliding the
621
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,160
remark kind of across the line,
sliding down in the guard,
622
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,120
having to put Aiden Lynch out
there.
623
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,480
Aiden Lynch was not ready to to
play that many snaps in this
624
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,120
offense.
It wasn't not.
625
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,800
At all.
And, you know, you you combine
626
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,480
that with the system that
probably isn't best designed for
627
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,120
Kyron's talents.
And.
628
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,400
Now he doesn't have time either
and it was a very bad
629
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,840
combination for the passing
game.
630
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,280
Yeah, real bad.
You know, another one I think
631
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,960
about and and some people are
going to baby jump in the chat
632
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,040
and say no, he was absolute shit
this year.
633
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,160
Isaiah Brown Murray played good
out of position.
634
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,720
He is not an outside corner.
He is like 5 foot 8 1/2 on a
635
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:02,440
good day, but he played his ass
off in his PFF grades.
636
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,440
He was like a 75, which that's
borderline on that 80, which is
637
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,120
you start getting to the 80s, it
means you're a really good
638
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,840
player.
He had a pick, he had a bunch of
639
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,800
past deflections and that was
playing out of position most of
640
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:20,760
the time.
So it not this week, next week
641
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,840
when all the conversations have
and Penn State probably gets
642
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,640
their coach and that portal
opens up, you're going to figure
643
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,560
out what this team looks like
and who's going to stay and
644
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,120
who's going to go.
And there's probably names we've
645
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,400
been talking about the last 8 or
9 minutes that won't come back.
646
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,960
And it's going to suck.
It's going to be like, like guys
647
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,680
you like.
But as far as it goes, you, you,
648
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,800
you hit them right off the top
head.
649
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,520
Y'all both did Hawkins and
Overton next year.
650
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,160
Y'all saw how they run.
And I think the way James
651
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,960
Franklin featured running backs,
you know, you think about all
652
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,200
the guys he had up there and how
good of a running game they had.
653
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,240
I, I, I, if somebody wants to
dive into the stats, I wish
654
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,400
Sheldon was here because he'd be
doing it in the background.
655
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:10,600
I don't know if he's ever had.
Two backs that good at points in
656
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,520
their career where you can play
them both.
657
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,920
If somebody can go tell me.
The two guys he has now is
658
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,800
pretty good, right?
I'm thank you.
659
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Tried Allen.
You tried Allen?
660
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,840
And what's the other guy's name?
It's true.
661
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,760
Is it single?
Yeah.
662
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,880
Yeah, Singleton.
Both of those guys are seniors
663
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,600
and they're both good players.
I'd have to look at stats to see
664
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,840
exactly what they're what
they're, what they have, but
665
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,040
both very productive, probably
Sunday guys.
666
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,480
Probably with I don't, I don't
think that's any doubt
667
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:48,720
whatsoever, but it just goes
back to the point of there
668
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:53,240
again, we, we don't sit here
y'all and say man, we're
669
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,200
poverty, we don't have any
talent.
670
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:02,560
This isn't 2021 going into 2022.
This isn't De Fuente era going
671
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,200
into the pride.
Yeah.
672
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:10,080
There is talent here, there are
guys with exceptional abilities
673
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,800
here.
And unfortunately we just did
674
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,400
not have the staff to put it
together.
675
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,880
And that leads me into this.
I mean, if everybody didn't see
676
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,320
it and, and, and it's been out
now a while.
677
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:28,600
First of all, Franklin's deal,
$42 million essentially, and
678
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,440
basically Penn State's playing
half of the first three years
679
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,160
because we don't really start
paying a lot of money until
680
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,080
20/29 at 12.25.
Yeah.
681
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,600
And I mean the average over the
the course is like right at 8
682
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,560
and a.
Half 8 1/2 so about 1,000,000
683
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,840
bucks more.
Now he goes out and does
684
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,320
something stupid the next couple
years and blows up.
685
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,520
Just get the checkbook out.
Go ahead extend it.
686
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,200
Go ahead and extend it, but then
it's the budget for everything
687
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:04,200
else that just.
It blew my mind. 9.5 for the
688
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,640
assistant coach pool.
Y'all know where that stands?
689
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Y'all know where that stands?
Did y'all see where it stands
690
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:16,120
currently in college football?
44 number 4.
691
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,320
Now I know it's going to be,
yeah, that's what's going to be
692
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,520
super important because how many
times that we look at stuff and
693
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,240
again, Karen is my guy.
Karen's a great kid.
694
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,960
Karen regressed tremendously
while he's been here.
695
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,240
What favours did we do him,
though?
696
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,960
No quarterbacks coach changing
OCS.
697
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,840
I mean, we just, we ran a line.
Coach every year is not helping
698
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,600
him.
We ran it like a hockey mouse
699
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,600
club.
You know, you get a quarterback
700
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,600
coach in here, Franklin's going
to go get a a true quarterback
701
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,000
coach.
And I want to know who those
702
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,400
coordinators are because those
coordinators are going what's
703
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,640
going to make or break the tape.
We know Franklin's going to get
704
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,440
some talent.
He's going to get talent.
705
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,760
Yeah, and it and it sounds like
you're looking at this and look
706
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,280
at the way Franklin's contract
is structured, all those things
707
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:13,280
he knows out the gate he's going
to need top money, coordinators
708
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,640
and coaches on this staff to get
this thing humming the way it
709
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,040
needs to.
And it and.
710
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,720
It's structured in a way that
he's able to do that out the
711
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:27,240
gate with this 9 million.
It is structured now, but, but,
712
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,880
but, but who do you want?
Somebody put it in a little
713
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,160
earlier.
The way we recruited online,
714
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,520
Phil Trodden is the offensive
line coach, the kid coming from
715
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,320
Ben State.
That's you can go ahead and
716
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,440
write that name down.
As many kids as have went
717
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,480
straight from there to here.
I mean, and, and you don't have
718
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,240
him on staff yet.
It's basically a handshake deal.
719
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:51,560
We're just waiting for this
thing to get going, which I'm
720
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,040
sure we'll hear something
probably towards the end of this
721
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,600
week on that front.
We'll start to see the first
722
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,440
assistant hires come in.
You know what I'd like to see?
723
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,480
It'd be cool as shit.
Y'all?
724
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Y'all seen Reservoir Dogs right?
I'm inviting you.
725
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,200
Maybe you ever seen?
Reservoir Dogs tally you ever
726
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:12,040
seen could he just like come out
tomorrow during the signing day
727
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,600
things and all the guys like in
suits just like walking out in a
728
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,800
slow motion scene you start
realizing like.
729
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,680
That man can do what he want to
do.
730
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,440
Yeah, that man.
Can do what he want to do, but
731
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,800
but let's talk about the let's
talk about the coordinators,
732
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,800
because there's a couple names
that are there's three names
733
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,920
that are floating around big.
There's Ricky, Ronnie, everybody
734
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,840
knows the ODU coach.
He other than Joe Moorehead, had
735
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:42,680
the best offensives under under
Franklin up at Penn State.
736
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,760
His offensive coordinator,
Blake, I think he's Blake
737
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,600
Decker.
Is it Blake?
738
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,480
I know it's Decker.
I'm about to say something that
739
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,480
was put in a chat earlier today,
but I'm not because if he don't
740
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,520
get hired, we got to let that
roll out.
741
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,400
And then there's the ECU guy,
John David Baker.
742
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,360
John David Baker, ECU, the 14th
rated total offense this year.
743
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,720
He comes from Lane Kiffentry.
Everybody, like Lane, likes to
744
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,680
pass the ball.
Tally Does Lane like to pass the
745
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,240
ball?
He does.
746
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:13,760
But what does he like to do even
more?
747
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,080
Run get on people's nerves.
He'd like to ruin though.
748
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:23,200
He likes to run the damn ball.
Those are the three names and
749
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,040
and you start looking to say,
well, under lane Baker didn't do
750
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,480
shit, but he went to ECU and
he's killing it.
751
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:39,520
And 11 years ago, 11 years ago,
if they had made maybe one offer
752
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,720
to a guy down at ECU, could have
changed the director of the
753
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,920
program.
Y'all tell me who that is in the
754
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,040
chat.
But I like all three names.
755
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:52,000
But what do y'all think?
Do y'all have coaches,
756
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,960
coordinators that just
immediately say, can you go hire
757
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,200
that guy?
Whether it's from this old
758
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:05,840
staff, new staff, whatever.
I mean, you know, looking at,
759
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,360
you know, John David Baker
definitely has me intrigued.
760
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,120
I don't know if he's going to be
the guy, but I certainly would
761
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,440
be fine with that as as the OC
higher.
762
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,960
Yeah, about DC, do you think?
Do y'all think Tom Allen has a
763
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,080
Could we steal Tom Allen from
Clemson?
764
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,280
They didn't have a good year
down there, but God damn it, he
765
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,680
killed it last year at Penn
State.
766
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,680
Yeah.
Definitely make that.
767
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,640
Call, and I'm sure he already
has at this point, and you make
768
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,880
you make him tell you no because
you can.
769
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,560
You can pay him what Clemson's
paying him.
770
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,800
Yeah, But you know how double
is, double has a way to get
771
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,880
people to stay where he wants
them to stay.
772
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,200
So he had those, and I'm not
saying he does, but he had those
773
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,360
coordinators that he had for
years and years.
774
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,040
Things just you know, when they
finally got here coaching jobs,
775
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,600
Clemson didn't quite look the
same.
776
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,760
But I don't know man, I don't
really have a name to throw out,
777
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,600
but I do just want to get a
defense.
778
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,960
I know defensive coordinator
means a lot, but you got to have
779
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,640
people in the places too.
I just want to get a defense
780
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:18,680
that looks like when you go look
at Miami like they're big, they
781
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,240
fast, they physical.
We always seem like AJV team
782
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:26,360
playing a varsity team, even
when we beat them, even in some
783
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,200
of the years that we're as good
as them or you know, we get them
784
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:39,600
on the field.
Maybe 2016 our our ones when
785
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,800
Miami came up to Blacksburg, our
ones looked great.
786
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,200
But when you start to get in the
2 deep, you know, and you got to
787
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,960
roll people in our defensive
line.
788
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,160
We we rolling out, you know, 6
foot defensive lineman that's
789
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,440
twitchy.
It's cool, I get it.
790
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,240
We've had that, but the game has
progressed so much farther past
791
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:00,800
that.
If you want to be somebody like,
792
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,440
and I don't even want to say
his.
793
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,920
Name like Aaron.
Donald, you don't.
794
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,800
They don't make Aaron Donald's
no more.
795
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,400
You know what I'm saying?
Like Aaron Donald was an
796
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,760
undersized lineman, but he
worked his butt off.
797
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,840
He was strong as a house.
They don't really make a lot of
798
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,680
a lot of defensive lineman like
that.
799
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,760
So you got to get big in the
trenches and then when we go
800
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,880
play somebody like this year we
go play Miami and you look at
801
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,680
their offensive line, they're
going to get 2 yards.
802
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,920
If they need 2 yards, you can go
for it on 4th and two on your
803
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,120
own 20 because you know you're
going to get it.
804
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,760
So whoever we put on that
defensive side of the ball, I
805
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,160
just want them to go get
somebody who was going buy into
806
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,560
what Virginia Tech has been in
the past.
807
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,320
Like, I know we're moving in the
future, but Virginia Tech's a
808
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,000
defensive school, you know what
I'm saying?
809
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Like we've had some good
offensive players, but we're
810
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,800
really a defensive school.
So more than all of the stuff
811
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,880
that we're getting on offense, I
want them to focus and get that
812
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,120
defense right.
Like we got to have a top
813
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,640
defense.
And it was Lincoln around 2013
814
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,920
and 2014.
You're right, we need a top
815
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,440
notch defense and there's so
many things to bring in and
816
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,120
somebody put in like Tim Banks
who's over at Tennessee, they
817
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,640
want his head because he gave up
45 to Vanderbilt.
818
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,000
Like they need to fire him
yesterday.
819
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,320
Like they were pretty good
ranked defense last year.
820
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,680
Y'all want to get rid of him?
Sure, we'll take him over here.
821
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,880
He Got Talent back to coach
anyway.
822
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,400
You know, that's people making
drastic decisions off of 1 game,
823
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,400
one game.
That's how that's how that's how
824
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:49,160
we got in this situation.
So put up Stevens down there
825
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,600
just I got it.
I do think I don't think he's
826
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,360
going to change that first year.
I don't.
827
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,560
Fergus is a good culture guy,
man.
828
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,320
He's he's we look better this
year, even though the record was
829
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,640
bad.
Yeah.
830
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,120
Yeah, I, I think he's a culture
guy.
831
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:16,000
I think he there's just
something that probably will.
832
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,800
I think we'll speak to Franklin
with Bird.
833
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,680
So you know, y'all been throwing
names in here up and down.
834
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,520
It's it's going to come to
fruition in the next probably
835
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,800
week.
And I know I said a week from
836
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,120
now we're going to talk about
all the recruits and mention
837
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,440
them and where they come from
and all that fun stuff.
838
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,720
But I think about a week from
now, we're going to who the
839
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:38,200
coordinators are.
We're going to know who the
840
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,920
position coaches are for the
most part.
841
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:43,560
But the other part about, and it
was Brandon Masello's treat
842
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,400
tweet, excuse me, the support
staff is up to 6,000,000.
843
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,840
It doubled that budget, doubled
that's.
844
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,560
Crazy.
And then recruiting budget went
845
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,320
up more than double from 1.26 to
3.
846
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,160
And that's just a recruiting
budget.
847
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,240
That's not staff.
That's just getting people in
848
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,840
and out of Blacksburg visiting
places.
849
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,320
And I'm going to tell you.
Lavar, you late.
850
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,960
Lavar is late.
Hey, you know, Lavar long time.
851
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:23,480
But I think overall the way that
goes, it's just it's it's insane
852
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:29,440
to see the amount of money they
are putting into it for for so
853
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,600
long.
They didn't.
854
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,720
And it reminds me for those who
are old enough here, it reminds
855
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:42,160
me of the year 2000.
The year 2000 when Frank was
856
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:47,480
going to leave for UMC and they
dumped money when it wasn't him.
857
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,200
At that point, Frank was set for
life.
858
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:53,760
They dumped the money into
everything else and for the
859
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,920
next.
Decade you poured.
860
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,720
You poured a lot of money into
your assistant pool and a good
861
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:04,280
good chunk of money into your
facilities, and then you let it
862
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:09,600
roll for a decade.
That's it.
863
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,960
But you keep up.
You don't get back to this
864
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,280
bullshit of what we're doing,
OK, What we're doing with.
865
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,000
You keep up.
You keep up with the times.
866
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,160
You keep up with the money.
You got to re evaluate what the
867
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,560
plan is.
Like you have a five year plan,
868
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,040
right?
But you're still re evaluating
869
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,160
that five year plan every
fucking year to make sure that
870
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:33,000
what you would forecast is still
going to pass muster.
871
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,840
True.
All right, so there's all that
872
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,360
fun stuff.
Let's just talk about coaching
873
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,360
carousel in general.
I'm on, I'm on list.
874
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,840
I'm on.
I'm on list names real quick.
875
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:52,160
Good for you, Lavar.
For your wife.
876
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,240
All right, I'm going to start
throwing names out here.
877
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Y'all ready?
And this is some are in
878
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,320
official, some are not official.
I'll start with Stanford because
879
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,800
they didn't have a coach because
Andrew Blood fired their coach
880
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,480
in the offseason, DaVita
Pritchard, who is the Redskins
881
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:18,240
quarterbacks coach?
Eric Morris, he was the North
882
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:20,200
Texas guy.
He's going to Oklahoma State.
883
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,560
Cool.
Arkansas got silver field,
884
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,520
Memphis tally don't like it.
Brian's like, I wish, I wish I
885
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,680
don't like.
I don't like it for him.
886
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:47,240
Auburn got Pete Golish from USF
John Summerall Pete Pete Golish?
887
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:48,480
Yeah.
OK.
888
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,280
Pete Golish there John Summerall
took Florida after two weeks
889
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,680
ago.
Apparently he canceled the
890
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,920
meeting to Florida.
Should.
891
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,040
Have flipped those.
I'm about to go when I know you
892
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,400
don't give a thumbs up on tally
Pat Fitzgerald to Michigan
893
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,400
State, OH.
Yeah, that's.
894
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,320
Good.
That yeah, that they nailed
895
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,000
that.
That's probably that might be
896
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,560
the third best hire of the
cycle.
897
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:15,360
Yeah, it's.
Easily.
898
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,000
It's definitely top five.
It could be, like you said, top
899
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,160
three, top three.
Ole Miss said fuck you, Lane.
900
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:25,080
We're just going to stick with
Pete Golden as our head coach.
901
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:27,840
I think that's that's them Just
yeah, I give.
902
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,320
Them a thumbs up, I give them a
thumbs up.
903
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,640
The the the.
The the few that are tied I.
904
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,800
Give them a thumbs up because
that's the only way they were
905
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,760
going to stay somewhat.
That's the only way they're
906
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,000
going to stay somewhat together.
Like if they had to go through a
907
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,720
search and pull somebody else
in, I feel like it was going to
908
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:49,720
get real pin statish.
Well, also the way they're
909
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:54,520
dealing with things right now,
like they're legitimately
910
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,880
probably going to make the
College Football Playoff.
911
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,280
They are.
So like you've got to you've got
912
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,000
to still put a product out
there.
913
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,880
So that that that's the only
reason I like it.
914
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,280
I mean, I think it's time will
tell whether that's a good long
915
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,440
term hire, but I think it's
definitely the best they can do
916
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,920
in the short term.
Consider the circumstances.
917
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,080
True.
All right.
918
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:21,520
Now there are the ones being
tied, and that is Bob Chesney to
919
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,040
UCLA.
He's JMU coach Will Stein to
920
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,240
Kentucky.
I don't know neither one.
921
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,000
There's one name I didn't
mention.
922
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,480
We've already talked about them
all throughout the program.
923
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,120
Penn State has nobody Kalani
Sataki staying at BYU, getting
924
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,320
more money than anybody from
Crumble Cookie.
925
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:45,600
And then last, then last but not
least, Lane Kiffin takes LSU.
926
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:52,440
That was a good move for him.
It's a good move for him.
927
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,600
LSU has a LSU has a top ten
class and he don't have to do
928
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,280
nothing to it.
True, He don't have he didn't
929
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,520
have to recruit.
He just walked in the building.
930
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:08,280
They've already a top ten class.
I think I'd have to go look at
931
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,120
it.
Maybe 10 out of there, 15
932
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,920
recruits are from Louisiana, and
it's always like that.
933
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,400
They ain't going to have to do
much to continue.
934
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:21,600
He had to work his butt off to
get people to to Ole Miss.
935
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,480
I'm not saying that he's right.
I'm just saying Lane is who he
936
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,120
is.
They're going to pay me a lot of
937
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,680
money and they're going to make
my job easy.
938
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,080
And Lane was like, hell yeah,
let's do it.
939
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,280
But he's coeds.
I can't remember the name they
940
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,600
gave him down at Bama.
Somebody will tell him, tell us
941
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,120
in the chat, some name they gave
him.
942
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,320
He used to go out under a fake
alias at Bama and get on girls.
943
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,520
Tony.
Tony's something I I can't.
944
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,120
Remember, man.
Well, well, the whole, but the
945
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,120
funny part about that tally, and
don't you think about it, where
946
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,680
he's had his success at the
Tennessee thing.
947
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,520
I always throw is a one off.
He was there one year.
948
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,680
You don't know what was going to
happen.
949
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:07,360
He had his success at Ole Miss,
FAU, where he had to work right.
950
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,480
He had success at Alabama
because fucking Nick Saban made
951
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,200
him work.
What's the one job he took that
952
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,400
recruits itself and how they do?
There?
953
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:22,160
You mentioned it earlier, USC.
He didn't do shit there, did he?
954
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,800
He didn't.
But again, he took, he took that
955
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,840
job at a bad time, though.
He took.
956
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,520
That job?
At a bad time.
957
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,400
But it's still.
USC because it you.
958
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,760
It used to be USC, especially
Pete Carroll's USC, sucked all
959
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,040
the recruiting oxygen out of the
whole fucking West Coast, and it
960
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,840
was not that case when he took
that job.
961
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,480
No, but you know, he doesn't
care about the money though.
962
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,760
Here's the one thing I will say
about him taking that job and I
963
00:57:54,760 --> 00:58:00,480
said it earlier, he knows now he
he is a genius offensive mind.
964
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,640
I don't give a damn what you
say.
965
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,000
Whether you like him or hate
him, he is a genius offensive
966
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,440
mind.
He knows how to call plays.
967
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,560
He knows how to dial things up.
But the issue that going there,
968
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,960
you fuck around and lose 8 games
a couple times at Ole Miss.
969
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,400
Do they care Tally No you you
down in that part they don't you
970
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,160
fuck around and lose a couple
have a couple eight win seasons
971
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,680
at LSU it's.
Going to get over.
972
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,320
Bye.
And with him and his track
973
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,320
record, they will find a way to
get out of the contract.
974
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,000
You know what happened?
We walked in and he was freaking
975
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,600
doing, he was doing blow off
hookers in the in the facility
976
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,840
here.
And probably most of us would
977
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:51,000
say, yeah, it probably happened.
So OK, OK, do y'all feel that
978
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,600
based on where it is that
Franklin's you the first or
979
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,640
second best of that group?
100%.
980
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,400
OK, 100%.
I I think if you say payer,
981
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:08,000
where the programs are and who
took the job, I think he was the
982
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,920
best hire.
Follow back up.
983
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,160
Now, if you if you're just
saying who got the best coach
984
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,640
overall, probably LSU.
Talent, go ahead, you about to.
985
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,120
Say that I put that.
I was just going to say I put it
986
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,480
at 2.
Just when you look at things, if
987
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,440
you didn't know anything about
college football and you just
988
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,960
came on an Athlean spaceship and
started watching ESPN, the most
989
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,560
you're hearing about coaching
wise and recruiting wise is
990
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,400
going to be LSU and Lane Kiffin
and then James Franklin and
991
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,640
Virginia Tech.
Franklin does this.
992
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,600
Go look at 247.
If y'all ain't on 247, they had
993
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,960
a great sale going on.
You can get the whole year for
994
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,560
like 30 bucks.
I did it.
995
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,080
Shout out to 247.
I like to go on in, see people
996
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,920
talk crap.
You see Virginia Tech pop up
997
00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:01,160
more in the last two weeks than
you have in the last five years
998
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,600
probably.
I've got more ESPN notices about
999
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,640
Virginia Tech in the last two
weeks than I have and I know the
1000
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,480
last three years.
So.
1001
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,520
Yeah, Franklin is Franklin's
doing work.
1002
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,920
Great job.
Great job for us, man.
1003
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,760
I mean, again, I'm not, I always
am going to follow the program.
1004
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,040
I'm not a coach guy.
I'm just enjoying the success
1005
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,360
while it's here.
What I think probably happens
1006
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:34,880
with Franklin is he, he propels
Virginia Tech to be top 15 team.
1007
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,440
Somebody comes along and tries
to steal him away in two to
1008
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,440
three years, you know.
But if that does happen, where
1009
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,000
will Virginia Tech be at that
time?
1010
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,520
You know, that's true.
We should be in a better place
1011
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,720
than we are now.
So in.
1012
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,640
The in the funny.
Times, a lot of times are good.
1013
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,520
And the funny part is, say what
you will, we're in a better
1014
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,000
place than where we were four
years ago.
1015
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,320
Yeah, you crap on Brent Prowl.
You want the relationships he
1016
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,400
built.
This will make it a lot easier
1017
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,760
for James.
Things that were brought to the
1018
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,840
attention, even for when they
bringing things to attention
1019
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,640
about the spending, we're in a
lot better place than where we
1020
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,880
were four years ago.
All right, Now, let me ask y'all
1021
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,760
this.
Take those two names out of the
1022
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,920
equation.
Y'all know who mine is.
1023
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,040
I think Pat Fitzgerald's the
third best hire.
1024
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,000
Who's y'all's third who?
Who nailed their hire?
1025
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,200
I mean, I think Arkansas did as
good as they can do.
1026
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:30,720
Damn.
Well they're not going to get
1027
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,520
James Franklin up.
They.
1028
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,880
All right, that's going to get
everybody people looking stupid.
1029
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,840
I don't know, man.
I'm I'm a big summerall guy.
1030
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,800
I think that I think Florida is
a hard place to win, but I think
1031
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,720
that they got a good coach.
So again, that's just that's a
1032
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,840
little bit biased to me because
he's from here.
1033
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,160
So I'll watch him a little bit
more than other people.
1034
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,720
But like some of the Auburn
people, man, like they didn't
1035
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,840
want him.
It was like, no, you know, we've
1036
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,200
watched him.
He's not ready for he's not
1037
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,400
ready for the SEC.
And then you go hire a guy from
1038
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:11,360
South Florida.
I'm like, oh Lord, OK, see how
1039
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,480
this goes.
I mean, they're more, I mean
1040
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,640
caliber wise what they've done
in their in the, in their spans
1041
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,000
at those spots.
I mean, they're very similar
1042
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,000
caliber coaches.
I don't, I don't think like it's
1043
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,440
it's hard to knock Summerall at
Auburn and then feel OK with
1044
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,840
with who they ended up.
With, but see, right.
1045
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,560
And that's the thing with me,
I'm like, I feel like what
1046
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:38,160
they've done in the G5 ranks
have kind of been parallel, but
1047
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,640
Goldish has been in Florida.
So when I say a South Florida
1048
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,320
guy, I'm saying like he's been
recruiting down there.
1049
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,080
He's been in that area.
People know him, you know, from
1050
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,600
what he's doing in South
Florida.
1051
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,320
How hard would it have been?
And I get Florida's, you know,
1052
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,480
talent riched, but if you're
going to recruit out of Florida,
1053
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,920
a coach that can go in and say,
hey, I've had success at South
1054
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:07,000
Florida, just come here to, you
know, Florida, Florida, it seems
1055
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,640
like it was going to work
perfect for them.
1056
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:14,240
And then Summerall who was at
Troy, had some success at Troy,
1057
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,200
had some, you know, good players
there.
1058
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,560
Then he goes out to Tulane
because they double the salary
1059
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,640
or triple the salary.
Of course he's going to leave.
1060
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,800
But again, his footprint is
around Alabama.
1061
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,200
You know, he's from Alabama.
He played at Kentucky, he's
1062
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,320
coached in Alabama.
He was gone down to, you know,
1063
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:39,760
Louisiana for one year.
Now you pull him back in.
1064
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,040
He's built a lot of
relationships.
1065
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,600
And this ain't something that
I'm guessing this is stuff that
1066
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,200
I know he's built really good
relationships with high school
1067
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,920
coaches in Alabama and around
the Auburn program.
1068
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,320
So now you're going to take that
and just throw it away and then
1069
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,840
you don't have to build it up
fresh because when you're
1070
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:03,200
recruiting to get somebody like
Alabama, Alabama is a national
1071
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,960
presents, right?
They can go get just about who
1072
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,240
they want from anywhere.
Florida has to be a little bit
1073
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,640
more local and more centralized
because you're recruiting
1074
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,880
against them.
You can take and and and that's
1075
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,920
no knock on the kids to go to
Auburn because a lot of good
1076
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,440
football is played in Alabama
and a lot of those kids go to
1077
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,560
Auburn.
They just kind of feel like they
1078
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,080
got have got looked over by
Alabama or Auburn.
1079
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,520
Just make them a priority at the
beginning of their recruitment.
1080
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,000
This guy's going to have to come
in and build that up.
1081
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:40,120
And it's like, there's no just
the same as with Virginia Tech.
1082
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,440
Like I told some fans when they
were saying I need to go after a
1083
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,680
coach like this, I'm like, we
don't have time.
1084
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:48,800
You know?
The only thing about Auburn is
1085
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,280
that they're already in the NCC.
If there's a reboot and Virginia
1086
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,040
Tech didn't have James Franklin,
we get left out 100%.
1087
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,920
You know, if we played no games
right now and they said, hey,
1088
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,240
we're just going to two
conferences, you know, and
1089
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,120
you're either in this one or
you're in this one or you're
1090
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,120
out.
We got a chance now that they're
1091
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:12,360
going to go James Franklin's
Virginia Tech Hokies, then just
1092
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,440
Bob Chesney's Virginia Tech
Virginia Tech Hokies.
1093
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,920
Basically, Chesney and and
Silverfield were probably going
1094
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,480
to be the candidates we would
have ended up looking at if.
1095
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,080
Yeah.
If we had Franklin. 100% by the
1096
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,320
way, Alex was not By the way,
the other thing is Alex.
1097
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,240
There we go.
No, that's it, Pete.
1098
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,080
I don't know where they'll Pete
because I was looking at Pete
1099
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,040
Golden type Pete G.
And the other thing about
1100
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,440
goalish and you didn't mention
this tally but mention it.
1101
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,520
He coached 2 years up at
Tennessee.
1102
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,080
He knows the SEC environment.
That is the other big thing.
1103
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:52,600
He did 4 total years at Florida
between UCF and in South Florida
1104
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,680
and he did two years up with
Hypola Tennessee and you know
1105
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,240
they come down into Florida and
recruit it.
1106
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,600
So but to what you make the
point with Summerall is the guy
1107
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,760
knows everything around here.
Could he just could he be the
1108
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,560
culture fit where you feel like
goalless?
1109
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,760
I mean first of all, if most of
y'all may notice about Alex
1110
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:18,200
goalless man was born in Moscow
Russia not Moscow ID Moscow
1111
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,720
Russia went to Ohio State has
coasted Oklahoma State, Toledo
1112
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,880
Illinois, Iowa State, UCF,
Tennessee, South Florida.
1113
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,800
You want to talk about resume
that looks all jacked up.
1114
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,640
I don't know if that's going to
be a culture that and and if you
1115
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,880
see his personality, you
remember a couple years ago,
1116
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,080
even walking off the field that
coach want to talk to him.
1117
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,640
He was all pissy and he's kept
walking and he kept walking.
1118
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,800
I do feel if he struggles, y'all
want to get some entertaining
1119
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,920
press conferences at Auburn the
next three years.
1120
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,440
So there you go.
Probably so I'm looking forward
1121
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,360
to seeing what.
That's going to look like it's
1122
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,080
going to be a lot of fun.
Anything else on the coach and
1123
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,120
carousel?
Again, not everything's done.
1124
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,800
Kentucky fired their coach.
Could it be Will Stein?
1125
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,600
And again, UCLA thing is not a
done deal yet.
1126
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,200
So it's going to be really
interesting.
1127
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,160
All right, well, we got to pick
some games.
1128
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,600
We ain't going against the
spread.
1129
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,840
We ain't got no highlights or
anything like that.
1130
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,160
Tally's didn't tell us what he's
picking, so he's going to be
1131
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,080
going off the cuff right here.
But we've got a bunch of
1132
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,840
conference championship games
this week.
1133
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,280
Going to be a lot of football
watching on Friday and Saturday,
1134
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,600
Maybe some partaking in adult
beverages while we're doing
1135
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,720
this.
Tally don't have too much of
1136
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,640
those when you get on those
muscle relaxers.
1137
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,360
I want you jumping on here
starting your own St.
1138
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,680
Hey y'all got to pray for me.
I'll be on the we're leaving a
1139
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,360
little cruise on Thursday.
I don't know how I'm going to
1140
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,400
make it you.
Going to make it.
1141
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,240
You going to make it just just
they got a wheelchair.
1142
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,840
To the boat.
I just got to get to the boat,
1143
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,120
man.
Are y'all going out in New
1144
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,480
Orleans?
Yeah, we're driving to New
1145
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,440
Orleans Thursday morning.
Oh, that?
1146
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,360
That's going to be your biggest
deal, right?
1147
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,680
There, that's what I'm talking
about.
1148
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,480
For 9 hours.
What else about 5 from here?
1149
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,240
Is it 5?
Yeah, about 5 or 6 from here.
1150
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,200
We're going to take you 10
because you gonna have to get
1151
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,840
out every hour and stretch so
you don't get all jacked up.
1152
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,000
And the muscle relaxers been
knocking me out, Curtis, the
1153
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,319
ones they gave me yesterday.
Say, maybe I think a nap.
1154
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,960
At 4:00 in the morning.
You going to look at your wife
1155
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,760
and be like, listen, I'm taking
three of these, I'm going to
1156
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,880
drink a bottle of wine and you
just wake me up when we get to
1157
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,640
the ship.
Wake me up when we get that roll
1158
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,160
me on the ship that's.
Right.
1159
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,120
Set me at the craps table.
All right, so here we go.
1160
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,800
Let's talk about these games.
Let's make some winning
1161
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,359
predictions.
We are not picking against the
1162
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:48,279
spread this week.
Brian said he didn't feel like
1163
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:50,840
thinking about numbers, so we're
going to go with it.
1164
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:56,800
Tally's alma mater is in a
championship game, Kenneth Stall
1165
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,720
State versus Jacksonville State.
Would this be in your school,
1166
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,359
Mr. Talley, who you got this
week?
1167
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:11,160
Give me them cops, them big.
Cops said Tally said.
1168
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,720
I'm going to take the Cox on
this one.
1169
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,520
I'm winning.
I'm riding the Cox as well.
1170
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:17,319
I'm riding the.
Cox.
1171
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,160
I'm riding the Cox all night.
Go to Jacksonville State, baby.
1172
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,479
Hold on.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
1173
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,080
We're not riding no cocks.
We said give me the cocks, not
1174
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,200
riding the cocks.
You want to you want to not ride
1175
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,800
the cock you.
Just, hey, man, Tally, Tally
1176
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,560
said.
We, we bottoms here, man.
1177
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:42,120
We're not tops.
Let's roll Next we got Troy down
1178
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,720
in your neck of the woods is
taking on James Madison for the
1179
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,720
Sunbelt Championship.
I think it's Friday night we all
1180
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,000
got.
If I'm 1st, I'm going to say
1181
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,600
James Madison, man, Even if they
do have some coaching turnover,
1182
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,240
I just think that a better team,
they'll win that game.
1183
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,840
Yeah, they got more talent.
I think they're going to win.
1184
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,800
It Oh yeah, Madison, definitely.
I think they're definitely
1185
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:07,600
winning it.
I don't.
1186
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,040
I think with the between what
Cignetti's done and what
1187
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:15,720
Chesney's done, they probably
have more talent than anybody in
1188
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,480
the Sunbelt and it's showing
every year.
1189
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,840
Now the question is, can Bob
Chesney fly his whole team out
1190
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,440
to UCLA next year like Kurt
Signetti did?
1191
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,960
Maybe, maybe not.
All right, next one.
1192
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,520
This to me is going to be an
entertaining gas game on Friday
1193
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,400
night.
You got the sports bar down
1194
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,480
there on the ship.
Tally pull up for this one.
1195
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,840
North Texas versus Tulane on
Saturday night or on Friday
1196
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:48,080
night. 11 in. 1-2 new coaches.
Two schools getting 2 new
1197
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,600
coaches, two coaches getting two
big new jobs.
1198
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,440
Best quarterback in the
countries at North Texas that
1199
01:10:54,440 --> 01:10:58,680
kids probably go to Oklahoma
State followers coach who you
1200
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,800
got tally.
I'm going to North Texas on this
1201
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,440
man.
I feel like Samara's got his
1202
01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:06,480
hands full getting ready to go
to Florida.
1203
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:10,560
So he is already Will's turning
to get that job to get that
1204
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,640
started.
And I think North Texas just got
1205
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,200
a little bit more involved and.
You know, at risk.
1206
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,160
I think when you when you're
dealing with stuff with like
1207
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,800
coaching changes and things like
that, you pick the team with the
1208
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,640
better quarterback and that's
North Texas.
1209
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,120
It is North Texas, and I think
it's to the point that two
1210
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:33,280
lanes, Summerall's taking a much
bigger position where he's got a
1211
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,040
lot more to think about.
Oklahoma State's dog shit right
1212
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,800
now.
They don't care.
1213
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,320
Just like get here whenever you
can and just bring your
1214
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:41,800
quarterback.
That's all we want.
1215
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,280
We'll figure it out in three or
four years.
1216
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:49,440
I'm taking North Texas on that.
All right, Kind of weird.
1217
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:51,920
Usually it's the Mountain West
Conference of the small
1218
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,480
conferences getting the big
talk.
1219
01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:57,720
This year's UNLV and Dan Mullen,
who I'm guessing is going to get
1220
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,920
paid at UNLV, even though last
year they said they didn't have
1221
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,880
enough money to pay him.
I guess somebody, I guess
1222
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,440
somebody took like $2,000,000,
walked into one of the casinos,
1223
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,200
put it on a number and it hit
the number because he has not
1224
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,480
come up in any coaching searches
as of yet.
1225
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:20,560
UNLV is playing Boise State.
I believe this one is.
1226
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,680
It's Friday night, but this one
is Saturday.
1227
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:33,320
Efforting, efforting, efforting.
Well, it's at some point this
1228
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,680
week, boys.
Here to UNLV tally.
1229
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,720
Oh, I guess I'm going to go with
UNLV man.
1230
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:44,560
I haven't watched boys there a
lot this year and I'm going to
1231
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,200
trust my God damn mother.
UNLV, let's go.
1232
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,880
Yeah, I think Mullen takes care
of business.
1233
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,560
I'm, I'm I'm all in on the on
the UNLV for the time.
1234
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,960
Same, we are agreeing a whole
lot Tally.
1235
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,560
You were agreeing with guys who
couldn't pick worth a shit this
1236
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,640
year on everyone.
Be bad, might be.
1237
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,000
Bad.
I'm UNLV.
1238
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,960
We saved Tally up, letting him
go first on all these Curtis.
1239
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,920
What's the whole thing?
We made our kicks.
1240
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,680
I mean, he he could look back
and he knows how to, he knows he
1241
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,520
can fade as if he wants to, but.
Exactly we put them in there
1242
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,360
hours ago so you can fade us if
you want, but you know it is
1243
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:25,720
what it is.
I we get to Saturday, one of the
1244
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:30,320
fun days of college football.
High noon 12 O clock at Jerry
1245
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:35,920
World BYU fighting for the
effectively their life against
1246
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:42,560
Texas Tech who we take.
In Texas Tech, Texas Tech, man,
1247
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,000
they don't pay the money.
They're going to reap the
1248
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,920
benefits.
Texas Tech is going to take care
1249
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,200
of business.
I think BYU the I think the
1250
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,600
crumble money didn't quite work
for this game.
1251
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:02,640
So Texas Tech.
Guns up, Texas Tech wins big.
1252
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,720
You can buy a football team and
make the playoff.
1253
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,440
That's the proof.
Yeah, it's the proof.
1254
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,640
Well, take that back.
As long as you got a couple good
1255
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,400
quarterbacks, you can do it.
You got shooting quarterback.
1256
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:17,320
Florida State's tried it three
years.
1257
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,080
They they, they nailed it one
year.
1258
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,280
And they took Tommy Castellanos.
They fucked themselves this
1259
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,360
year.
That's what I'm saying that
1260
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:27,440
it's, you know, if if you get
the right pieces that mesh and
1261
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:31,040
you got a good quarterback in
that mix, then it can be done.
1262
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,840
It's just it's a dice roll,
especially if you don't have a
1263
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,760
surefire top ten in the country
quarterback.
1264
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,520
It's true, all right.
We got Mac Chenek.
1265
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:47,080
Mac Championship, also at 12.
Saturday, Miami of Ohio versus
1266
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:51,800
Western Michigan.
Miami of Ohio.
1267
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,120
Yeah, you always got a row of
Miami, baby.
1268
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,000
Sound like cool, just sound like
cool place, right?
1269
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,440
Miami, Ohio.
The only reason I take them is I
1270
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:05,520
know Ben Roethlisberger played
there, right?
1271
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,760
That's it.
That's the only reason I, I
1272
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,600
have, I threw this one on here
because you know, don't know,
1273
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,680
don't crap on everything, but
you got the SWAC championship
1274
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:23,760
also this weekend and it's going
to be preview A&M versus Jackson
1275
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,280
State.
By the way, if you didn't read
1276
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:32,520
today, Colorado is $27 million
in debt and Jackson State's
1277
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,000
still women.
I don't know if it was Dion
1278
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,000
doing a good thing.
I think Jackson State's just a
1279
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:41,360
really good FCS program, but who
you got Tally?
1280
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,320
Oh man, give me Jackson State.
Yeah.
1281
01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:49,200
I mean that that's a layup.
I feel like Jackson State's
1282
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,120
going to take this one by a
pretty good margin.
1283
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,960
Yep, I got Jackson State too.
We have not agreed.
1284
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,560
We have not disagreed on
anything yet.
1285
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,800
This is so good thing.
Either this is going to be
1286
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,600
really good or if you don't play
this parlay and we get every
1287
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,960
game right, calling out
everybody.
1288
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:16,560
All right, we get to Saturday
afternoon in Atlanta rematch
1289
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,600
Georgia, Alabama, Alabama took
the opening or the earlier
1290
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,240
season game.
Georgia's taking it hard to beat
1291
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,120
the team twice.
Man, Georgia.
1292
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,000
I've got Georgia as well.
Georgia as well.
1293
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,800
I think Georgia spanks them.
I don't think this is a game
1294
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,200
because Auburn, if Auburn could
just learn how to hold on to a
1295
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,640
damn football, Alabama wouldn't
be in this game at all.
1296
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:48,640
And the question goes, if they
lose, should they go?
1297
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,160
They're gone, though.
Should they be gone?
1298
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,280
They get smoked I think.
If they get smoked it'll get
1299
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,240
interesting.
If they don't, if they keep it
1300
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,920
close, then I think they're in.
So them in Miami have one common
1301
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,760
opponent.
Oh, I know.
1302
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,240
Yeah, it don't matter it.
Don't look, look FSU is.
1303
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,360
Going to be the game that was
Anomaly.
1304
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,680
For every every every person
that played them.
1305
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,680
They're going to say why are we
punishing them for making it to
1306
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,360
the the the 8th SEC
Championship?
1307
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,280
Why did they not get?
Why did they continuously get
1308
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,360
ranked in the top 10 even though
lost to a shitty ass team in
1309
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,880
FSU?
Yeah, I don't know.
1310
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:34,560
Because you know what, in a
couple years when James
1311
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:39,320
Franklin's nine and one and he
has one bad game against Georgia
1312
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,800
Tech, they're going to put us at
like 26 now.
1313
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,920
Y'all can't be ranked.
Y'all can't be ranked.
1314
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,200
The only.
Thing I'll say, Curtis, is that
1315
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,600
regardless of whether that win
was a good win or a bad win at
1316
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,560
the start of the year, they
still did what they needed to do
1317
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,440
to get to the SEC Championship
game.
1318
01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:59,600
That's probably going to be
enough in most people's eyes
1319
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,520
unless they get absolutely
fucking waxed.
1320
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,760
All right, here we go.
We all think Georgia.
1321
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:11,840
All right, in one of the funnier
games this week, Virginia versus
1322
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,760
Duke.
Did y'all read the tiebreaker
1323
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,760
scenario of how Duke got in?
Yes, it was crazy.
1324
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,440
Yeah, stupid.
Stupidest shit ever.
1325
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,960
Let's go back to the coastal and
stuff.
1326
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:31,720
Man, so when we get to
tiebreakers, I mean, I mean, I,
1327
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,720
I wouldn't have a problem.
Just, you know, whoever the
1328
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:39,160
highest ranked team.
After head to heads.
1329
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,240
Yeah, after head, head to head
should be the start.
1330
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:43,600
Head to heads is always the
starting.
1331
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,960
Point.
Well, the whole thing is Duke
1332
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,400
couldn't be discussed in the
head to heads.
1333
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,800
You know why?
The only team Duke played in the
1334
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,400
top six of the ACC?
They got their asses handed to
1335
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,280
them.
They didn't play Georgia Tech,
1336
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:02,160
they didn't play Miami, they
played UVA and got killed, and
1337
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,800
they didn't play SMU.
Yeah.
1338
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,640
What they got lucky is that
they're playing.
1339
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,960
SMU.
All SMU had to do was go out
1340
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,600
there and win a layup game and
they didn't do it.
1341
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,160
Algorithm we got a baby.
The calgorithm, we got them all
1342
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,360
right.
Who we got in this game?
1343
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,240
For the same reason I said
Georgia, I'm going to say Duke.
1344
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,320
It's hard to beat the team twice
in one year, so I got it.
1345
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,720
If I'm going to say that's my my
thought process, I got to go
1346
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,360
with Duke.
I'm going to go a little bit
1347
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,520
different logic on here, but the
same answer.
1348
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,800
It's Duke, because fuck them,
that's why.
1349
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,720
Damn.
I'm trying to get back to 500.
1350
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,360
You can't beat A-Team twice, but
when you absolutely kill
1351
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,000
somebody, like if that had been
a close game like the Georgia
1352
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,680
Alabama game, I would have went
tallies line, but they'd be
1353
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,640
kicked the dog shit out of them
three weeks ago.
1354
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,280
I mean they beat them down.
It wasn't a game at all.
1355
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,080
I hate saying it, but UVA
unfortunately is going in this
1356
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,800
game and getting the playoff.
What happens in the playoff?
1357
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,800
If you're a UVA fan and you
somehow found this channel, you
1358
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,840
might want to turn TV off
because it ain't going to get
1359
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:16,800
pretty on that playoff game.
Whoever they play, they can be
1360
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,920
ugly.
We got a We got a update here.
1361
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:21,560
What?
We.
1362
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,680
We did not we.
Didn't do it, Robbie.
1363
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,240
We didn't do it.
So the question is who's partly
1364
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:31,760
you're riding with because we're
different now, All right, last
1365
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:36,200
game it was pretty cool to see
this regardless if you hate
1366
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,200
them, and I do hate one of these
teams significantly #1 versus
1367
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:44,840
#212 and O versus 12 and O, Ohio
State versus Indiana.
1368
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,880
Ally, who you taking?
Ohio State.
1369
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,040
I'm riding with the Fighting
Kurt Signetes.
1370
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,120
Fighting Kurt Signetes, he has
the unbelievable first name, but
1371
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:05,280
for Indiana, and as much as you
want to see him win and as much
1372
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:10,400
as I want to see Ohio State
lose, I I just can't see it.
1373
01:21:13,480 --> 01:21:16,160
I can't see it.
I think Ohio State's going to
1374
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:21,120
beat him.
I mean, I it's one of those
1375
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,120
interesting games because you
know, both of them have pretty
1376
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,000
much secured their spot at this
point.
1377
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:33,600
Probably both have secured a buy
potentially.
1378
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,480
No, no, no.
Is it, is it, are we doing the
1379
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:38,440
bars this year or just before?
Is it?
1380
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,720
I forgot what it was this year.
Are they still doing the
1381
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:45,920
conference champion only?
I thought.
1382
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,120
I thought they changed the.
Rules.
1383
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,920
I thought they changed that too,
I can't remember.
1384
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:55,120
So I thought, I thought it was
the four highest ranked get the
1385
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,520
buy.
Maybe I'm wrong, I know they
1386
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,800
changed something.
They changed something.
1387
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:02,760
Effort efforting the ever
changing College Football
1388
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,360
Playoff ranking rules.
Just the four overall.
1389
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,320
The top seeds get a buy.
Yeah.
1390
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,240
So I, I, I think regardless of
this outcome, I think both of
1391
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,600
them will get a buy.
I I forgot to look at their
1392
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,840
their rankings tonight.
They're one or two.
1393
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:23,160
I know who's 3 is Georgia 3?
Georgia 3?
1394
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,240
Aren't they Texas Tech?
Texas Tech is 4.
1395
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,640
So in all likelihood, Georgia
goes up, Texas Tech goes up,
1396
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,240
Indiana probably doesn't slip in
unless they get just waxed.
1397
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,840
Yeah, exactly 63, nothing.
It's, I think it's going to be
1398
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,400
interesting to see how that
shakes out.
1399
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:45,000
You know, I think Ohio State
probably has a little a little
1400
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,080
more to lose, but it could be
one of those things where Ohio
1401
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,040
State may, you know, lose this
when they get the monkey off
1402
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,200
their back so they can make
another.
1403
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,600
You know, they need to.
Well, either way, I don't think
1404
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,880
either of them are going past
four unless it's just ugly.
1405
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:06,760
So, yeah, I agree.
All right, anything else to wrap
1406
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,760
up tonight, Tally?
I'm glad you made it man.
1407
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,360
I made it.
I'm glad you did.
1408
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,000
You did.
You made it.
1409
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:20,200
Now go take your medicine.
Go stretch back out because you
1410
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,960
got a long drive on tomorrow,
right?
1411
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:24,160
Thursday.
Thursday.
1412
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:25,960
Thursday.
Are y'all drive?
1413
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,160
Are y'all driving the same day
to get on the ship?
1414
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,000
Yeah.
And you're back Monday.
1415
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:34,640
Back.
Come on.
1416
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,080
Also five day.
Where are y'all going this time?
1417
01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:45,600
Not do we lose them?
I lost them.
1418
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,800
Where?
Cosmic the Mexico trip.
1419
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,400
Very nice, Ryan.
Anything to ask me?
1420
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:56,400
Got it.
I'm I'm just seeing if any other
1421
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,120
recruit outage is good if we
didn't get any other crew since.
1422
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,560
We that would have been sick
like a 930 drop.
1423
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,520
Did you see the one?
Did we see the one coming late
1424
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,240
night?
We hadn't got a late night 1 yet
1425
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,640
and it was like 730.
Boom, here you go.
1426
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,320
Yeah, most of it like 663030 was
the latest pop so.
1427
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,280
Yeah.
Yeah, All right.
1428
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:19,560
Get ready for tomorrow.
Get ready for tomorrow, going to
1429
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,760
be the first time listening.
Apparently there's going to be a
1430
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,200
Simon Day thing.
Shout out Virginia Tech social
1431
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,200
media staff.
That was sick.
1432
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,760
They they've crushed it lately.
May back, May back.
1433
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,880
Maybe all.
Right, that wraps up this
1434
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,760
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floor for a couple seconds here,
but.
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Yeah, as most of you know, guys,
we were not, we did not do an
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episode last week.
And there was a, there was a
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good reason for that on, on last
Monday, some of you know, my,
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my, my dad passed away.
And obviously it was a, it was
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a, it was a tough week last week
with, with family in town and
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just kind of going through the
grieving process.
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So I know a lot of you, some of
you in the comments even
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already, and a bunch of folks
were reaching out to me into
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this week and into the start of
the start of this week as well.
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So just want to say thank you
for that.
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Thank you for the support and
appreciate your patience with us
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last week.
Yeah, appreciate it y'all.
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Sometimes we don't do these
podcasts and there's reasons
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behind them and you know
something, you know, we made the
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decision last week to not do it
and it is what it is.
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It was UVA week.
Don't worry.
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Brian texted me numerous hateful
things back later in the week to
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know he was in good spirits when
it came to hating UVA.
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That happened and as it said,
their family does come first
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here.
So let's talk about before we
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talk about football, I'm
literally wondering when we're
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going to start the program
because the basketball game that
43
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just ended 20 minutes ago or so.
Man.
44
00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,840
They broke the losing.
Streak.
45
00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,280
They broke the losing streak.
You know, we we had talked about
46
00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,640
it with with everything going on
last week and watching some of
47
00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,160
the games, like, you know, the
wall is kind of the glue for
48
00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:14,320
this team with the with the
rebounding with with being able
49
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to stretch the floor out a
little bit, just overall
50
00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,040
athleticism.
I mean, he's the guy that kind
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of gets the wheels moving.
So you're without him for
52
00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,960
probably, it sounds like for at
least a little bit more than
53
00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,400
more than likely looking like
the rest of this month.
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00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,640
With that being said, I think if
it if it had to happen, this is
55
00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,720
the time for it to happen.
That's the guy that has been a
56
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part of the squad.
You're going back to last year.
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00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,280
He understands the system.
Him missing time, is that going
58
00:04:49,280 --> 00:04:51,720
to probably hurt chemistry or
anything at all?
59
00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,880
But what it does do is help some
of these other guys create
60
00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,120
larger roles within the team,
kind of understand where they
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00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,160
fit in a little bit better.
I think you know, you're going
62
00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:06,600
to see an improved team from
this experience going into ACC
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00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,360
play.
The downside is that you know,
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you're, you're, you're noticing
that when this team gets pushed,
65
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they don't really have that guy
that can just kind of get them
66
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through the tough stretches of a
game.
67
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And and that and you'll see
these lols happen and you'll see
68
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these these moments where they
just don't look like the team we
69
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expect them to be.
And then all of a sudden, you
70
00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,760
know, it clicks back in a little
bit and you know, thankfully you
71
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scrape by in this one.
You know, this is probably a a
72
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10 to 15 point win if if low
walls in that game, but a win is
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a win.
You take it and you move on to
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the next.
And you know, hopefully you can
75
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still work through the rest of
this non conference with very
76
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few blemishes and get into ACC
play and get him back.
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Yeah.
And I think too, Brian, to that
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point, what we saw today was a
more cohesive unit than the last
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two games down in the Bahamas
where he didn't play.
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That is one of the downsides of
having those tournaments, right?
81
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It's back-to-back to back.
There is no time for gay planet.
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You just need to go play.
And we we clearly missed the
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rebounding against both Saint
Mary's and VCE.
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And with what I've noticed in it
was in this game as well as
85
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those two, I got a chance to
watch more take basketball than
86
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not.
Probably did all last year and
87
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the last week and 1/2.
What you're missing tonight is
88
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some of those rebounds.
How many times early in the
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season, and I know it wasn't
some of the best competition.
90
00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,040
Providence was pretty good
beaten Colorado State was good
91
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squad to win probably 2 plot one
losses.
92
00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:55,960
But how many times did we see it
we'd again, we get the ball,
93
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push it down the floor easy
layup alley to the wall quick.
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And how easy is that to say when
you have a 8 point lead, you you
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get a rebound, make a quick
tournament, it's ten.
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Well, they've got they've got a
press now you see the ball every
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time there is no push anymore.
That's not having to go to the
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wall, not having their getting
murdered on the boards.
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Saint Mary's I had no issues
with getting killed by BCU on
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the board turn because VCU
typically for as long as I can
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have never been a great
rebounding team.
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When they murder, you're on the
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It sucks.
So like that would probably hurt
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more, even though the 57% from 3
point range by BCU clearly was
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the difference in that game.
But now we go through South
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Carolina, there's a win there.
Mason's going to be tough this
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Saturday.
Yeah, no doubt about it.
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They're.
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level.
I would imagine from from a
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talent overall talent
perspective, if you play a
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better, better game overall and
they're not shooting the three
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as well as VCU did in that game,
you know, you're probably right
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there.
But I think, you know, we got to
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come in here.
We'll go ahead and throw it up
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here.
Yeah, I think that's that's,
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that's big more looks.
I think we're starting to see
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him be a little more aggressive
offensively.
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As you know, he had was less
aggressive, you know, first,
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first game or two and then then
kind of exploded and then we've
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kind of seen a little dip and
now we're starting to come back
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around.
Yeah, I think, I think we'll see
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him kind of work into the style
of play both in just NCAA
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basketball in general and as we
get into the ACC play just a
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little bit more of an aggressive
style of play.
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I think he's still adjusting to
that a little bit.
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And.
Figure it out.
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Well, it's Euro versus American
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So there it is significantly
more physical and it is guys who
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are who have more burst.
I wouldn't even say speed burst.
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It's the most of the NCAA
players have significantly
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quicker first steps than most
Euro players.
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Back to Mason.
Mason's undefeated, but if you
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look at who they've beaten,
Wofford, Winthrop, Catawba,
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yeah, I said Catawba, New
Hampshire, Jacksonville, Ohio,
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Florida Atlantic, JMU, Cornell,
this is effectively going to be
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their first challenge game where
there's going to be a team on
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the other side of the floor with
more, with as much if not more
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talent than them.
So it's going to be interesting
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how they handle that.
But if they can, but if the
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Hoagies can get through that
game with the West, Brian, me
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and you were talking about it
beforehand, you know, after that
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game, it's effectively Western
Carolina, Maryland, Eastern
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Shore and Elon.
That should be three wins.
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It should be.
That should be three wins and
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the question is can Toby Lewall
get back by December 31st for
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the UVA game?
That would that's the key.
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That would be ideal.
And but right now we don't know
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the injury.
I know they're saying it's a
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foot.
Chris Coleman saying he said he
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thinks it's the metatarsal.
If there's any podiatrist out
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there or people that go to a
podiatrist and want to act as
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experts on this, please comment
in the comment section and we
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will throw this up.
So yeah, but overall with with
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basketball, you know, seven and
two and again, the where in the
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past, the losses where you just
kind of hang your head like, oh,
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these are terrible B CS probably
going to win the A10 Saint
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Mary's probably making a
tournament.
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So you're looking at quad 1
losses.
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And as we know, sometimes as
long as you can get the LS are
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in quad one, not quads 2-3 and
four, that's the way to get into
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the tournament.
Yeah.
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And I mean then you still, you
know, you're going to have a a
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really good opportunity in ACC
play to get some quality wins.
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I mean the ACC is going to be a
much improved conference this
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year compared with last year.
So you you won't quite have the
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lack of opportunity to get those
quality wins like you had the
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last couple years in the ACC.
Well, yeah, I mean, look, I
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mean, Syracuse upset Tennessee
tonight, Duke beat Florida.
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We'll do some be good
regardless.
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So we shouldn't even talk about
that.
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But overall, just in the
beginning of the season, the ACC
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significantly proved they're
trying to save five teams.
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I think it's more like an 8 bid
league this year and if it plays
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better, maybe not.
All right, I don't know.
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I got I got to do some before we
start telling the truth about
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Saturday.
Man.
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That was tough to watch.
I'll tell y'all, I'll tell
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y'all.
I watched it live and I have not
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put a single fucking clip back
on my screen since then.
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I could not watch that game one
more time.
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I couldn't even watch the
condensed man.
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It was.
It was one of those games where
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I'm like, we're bad in every
single phase.
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There's like, you know, a
handful of plays you can point
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it and say, all right, well,
that's all right.
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And then the rest of it's like,
all right, well, we look like
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we're outmatched.
We look like we don't belong in
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the same field.
We we didn't, we didn't, we
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didn't even play as well as we
had played most of the season.
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I know you had two big players
out on offense and that
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definitely hurt, but at the same
time you got to play with what's
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out there and I feel like we
still didn't put our best, best
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foot forward.
In there.
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Oh no, no, no, best foot forward
at all.
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I mean, you know, as far as the
well, I mean, Overton, Overton
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was solid.
We got to talk about it, you
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know, you got to let it out
because if not, you know,
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emotional issues, Brian, do you
know there is a little pop up
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there on the right side?
Oh yeah, that's the the comments
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are scrolling on the side.
There.
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Oh, OK.
I didn't know if you were, but
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the the UPS plots OK as long as
you knew the upside was seeing
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Overton run.
Over Overton had a good game.
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Snoop Peterson catching the
touchdown because I I texted at
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least four people scoring St.
games tonight because we
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couldn't do Jack shit.
And then he ran a damn just a
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little slant and just ran away
from him.
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Which again shows you his
athletic ability.
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But can I tell you what the bad
to me was?
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What's that?
The bad to me was when we were
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down 14, nothing at half, and
then they score again early
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third quarter.
I don't give Montgomery all the
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credit or whatever you want to
say, but him not putting in Pop
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Watson just to get a shot?
I don't like that.
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Hey, look who finally decided to
jump it.
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Right into it, baby.
Right into it, sliding in.
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We, we are trying to talk about
the UVA game Tally.
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I mean, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm
saying let me get my piece so
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you can hear.
Where I am, he said.
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Throw it in the fucking trash.
Well, we all threw it in the
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trash.
I mean, I'm still drinking, but
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for real, him not putting in
Watson, at least at some point
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in that game, was a travesty.
Kyron just could not throw the
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ball Saturday, just could not.
And him not putting in pop, it
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just seems bad.
It seems almost like, no, I'm
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I'm riding with this guy and
that's it.
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And you can't do that, so go
ahead.
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Yeah, that is that mean.
UVA was the better team, they
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deserved to win, blah, blah,
blah.
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We can go into all that.
The coaches that was on the
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field, Coach Monty who was the
head coach, you know, interim
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head coach, he didn't want to
win.
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He didn't care about winning.
He was ready for it to be over.
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It showed.
I mean we didn't do no half back
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pass.
No Alabama Internet.
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Oh, no passes.
We didn't do so.
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We lost you for a second,
basically, Tally, I, I could
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hear a little bit of you
basically, Tally said.
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We didn't try trick plays.
We didn't try anything weird.
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We just were like, we're going
to run the ball and throw the
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ball.
Tally if you got the.
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Problem is we didn't commit to
the like if we go run the ball,
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run the ball, yeah, I feel like
we we did that pretty somewhat
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well early and then we got off
of it and then we got down to a
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point where you felt like we had
to go back and just sling the
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ball around.
It wasn't a game plan that
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really made a lot of sense.
And that's that's from, you
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know, kick off running it out of
the damn end zone to the six
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yard line and it and it just
went downhill from there.
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It's done, done.
So give them their.
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Give them their tea leaves,
their flowers, whatever.
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You know, only the third time
this century, century.
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And it ain't like we're 10 years
into the century.
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We're bored.
We're we're, we're 1/4 of the
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way through this century and
they've only won this game.
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Three times.
Look, so the way I see this game
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for for UVA, you know, a win is
a win.
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You got to you got to give them
credit for going there and
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handling business.
But at the same time, this isn't
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significantly different than the
Maryland bowl game.
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No.
From a from a, from a roster
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standpoint for the Hokies, like,
all right, yeah, you, you you
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won the game, but you basically
were playing the B team at best.
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Yeah, so.
That's what it was.
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It was B team significant
players out.
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You know, the the one thing that
stuck out, somebody put on here,
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put, put, I'll put it up.
I mean teams.
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And you know what?
I saw somebody say something.
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Was it Ricky Leblue?
It was.
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Ricky Leblue.
I don't.
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Know if they've been called out.
How many times have we called
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Stew hold out on this program.
Oh.
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Man man, still been on the shot
for a while.
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He has gotten dressed down
numerous times on this program.
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So to say, Ricky, I'll say, MM,
tell Ricky.
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Listen, listen to all our
episodes.
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The receipts from Boundary
Corner has been calling him out
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really since Vanderbilt of last
year and through when we had
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some good moments, we gave him
his flowers, but it was a lot of
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you messing up.
So, but as far as it goes that
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that's it.
No bowl game, nothing like that.
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Season's over football wise,
again, it's us who are roughly
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fans of 25 and 30 years, right?
Worst season we've ever seen.
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Worst season, the 2:00 and 11:00
or two and nine season a few
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years ago that was bad, but at
least there was an excuse.
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This was no excuse.
So it is what it is.
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But we're going to keep telling
the truth and we aren't going to
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go extra in depth on the
recruits and all the guys we've
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picked up over the last few
days.
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We're going to do that next
week.
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Why?
There's still more guys that are
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going to get in the boat
tomorrow, maybe even a few after
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that.
We want to talk about them next
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week sort of in full once
everybody signed, sealed,
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delivered and we know they're
enrolling.
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But I'm going to ask both of.
Y'all, Robbie?
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He's not in the comments
section, but he's in our text
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messages.
He's like, what?
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Fucking Stew.
He might be at Catawba next
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year.
I don't even know what.
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It is AD. 3 is AD 3 school he
need to be there.
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So let's talk about this.
We're going to talk about all
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the kids next week and who they
are and where they're coming
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from.
But I'm going to start with
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Tally.
Did you expect this type of flip
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in 10 days?
You did, Tally said.
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Yes.
I did I mean honestly, I didn't
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know what to expect my comments
to y'all even on here too.
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I say it and to all the people
on Twitter that say it, this is
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going you know we James
Franklin, I wouldn't worry about
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him.
We need to get this.
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I say it.
Blacksburg has never seen
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something like what James
Franklin has to offer.
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Now what he has to offer.
I didn't 100% know taking a
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recruiting class from. 118 to
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And 30, No, no, no, it's 30 now.
We are in the top 30.
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We are #3030.
To beat from 1:18 to 30 in two
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weeks.
Ridiculous.
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So I knew what he could do.
And then you still got some
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people just saying, well, my, my
problem wasn't his recruiting is
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what he does on the field.
People we had on the field, like
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when our 2 deep got gone, when
our 2 deep got gone, we're just
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out there playing with the 5th,
6th, 7th guy on the roster and
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they can't compete against
things.
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You know, no disrespect to the
kids they're trying to play.
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Some of them need development,
some of them maybe shouldn't be
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here.
So he's going to bring guys that
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deserve to be on the field from
at least the one to the three.
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You know your your two to 3D is
going to be guys that can play.
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He's going to build a roster.
So I did expect him to be able
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to do that and it's exciting to
see.
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What about you, Curtis?
Well, for, for me, like I, I
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talked, I, I, I talked with Mike
McDaniel today and it's one of
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those we knew it could be good,
but this is like here.
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And if he does, what would throw
up on this right here if he gets
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seized tomorrow?
It it, I don't know if you can
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get much higher because it's
basically flipping almost that
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entire that entire class from
Penn State holding on to who you
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needed to hold on to in this
class, getting Wilder back in.
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I mean, it's crazy.
And again, like me and Brown
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were talking about it to go and
you just mentioned it now to go
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100 spots in 10 days.
And it's not like, oh, we're
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just getting there.
It's like that old, what's our
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old number, Brian?
We always talked about it.
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Got to be 88 average or higher.
88 average or high, we are an 88
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average or higher.
And if you're wondering what we
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are currently, let me pull it up
here because I had it just a few
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minutes ago. 88.23 Most blue
star or blue chip recruits we've
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had in well over a decade
getting recruited.
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And I mean, you still got, you
know, you talk about siege, but
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you also still have, you know,
Polydorum play Jackson Ford,
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Terry Wiggins.
Yeah, there's, there's still
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some, some fruit on the on the
on the tree for tomorrow.
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So being if you hit on two of
those, great.
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If you hit on three or more,
it's crazy.
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Even if he did, Even if he
didn't get anybody else though,
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like right now, Curtis, if if we
got no more people to sign,
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which I know we will, but if we
got no more people to sign, how
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do you, what would you think?
How do you feel unbelievable
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right now if we just begin right
now?
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If it ended right now the OL is
built with size.
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You've got some defensive
lineman with size.
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The one that happened tonight,
which came out of nowhere.
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Harley up from Gonzaga.
I mean, you know what, I got a
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text from Phil a while ago and I
won't pose this to Brian and
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then I'll I'll I'll let you go
with the tally.
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Bill asked me about two hours
ago is the Mid-Atlantic nail
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techs.
I think I, I think it's, I think
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we have as good of a stake as
any team in the entire country
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at this point.
Like I, I think you put us right
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there with any of the SEC teams
that like to reach up into the
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Mid-Atlantic right now.
We don't even know who Penn
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State's head coach is going to
be.
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You know, they just got outbid
apparently by BYU.
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So.
Go support Crumble.
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Cookie go crumble, baby.
You hear about that, Sally.
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I know you've been traveling.
You did hear about it?
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Those are trying to keep them.
I know, but you've been running
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and watching hoops games today.
But go support Crumble Cookie.
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I've seen that, Curtis, let me
let me take, let me throw
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something else at you for you to
think about.
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All right, so James Franklin
comes to Virginia Tech, right
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when you ask that question about
does Tech kind of rule the
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Mid-Atlantic, Right.
OK, we know what South Carolina
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is now.
Recruits know what South
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Carolina is now.
Won't say nothing bad.
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We're just going to say
everybody knows what it is.
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Penn State still doesn't have a
coach.
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What coach can they bring in?
It really can recruit above what
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Franklin does.
Everybody, I mean, Bill
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Belichick's still going to get
some kids.
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I think he's got 39 kids in
their class, but North Carolina
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UVA, North Carolina State, I
mean, what school, what, what
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recruiters are going to be able
to out recruit And this is not
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even his staff yet now.
EA is having their best season
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since 2003.
Yeah, and they're the worst
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recruiting team in the
conference.
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Who?
Who?
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When?
Curtis asked that question.
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I'm really trying to wrap my
mind around, not just ACC the
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point who who can recruit.
I don't think he's going to
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bring it.
I know another tech WS put in
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Hartline, but Hartline's more of
Highland Valley and The thing is
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with him, if he comes to Penn
State right now, is he going to
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bring anybody from Ohio State?
He'll bring a couple, but he's
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he's not bringing like Franklin.
He's not bringing half of
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recruiting class with him.
Yeah.
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Yep, he might bring.
He might bring 3 or 4 guys,
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maybe five guys.
He's not bringing half.
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And the portal ain't even
started.
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And right now they don't have
anybody committed.
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No.
They have 0 fucking commits
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right now.
They don't even have a coach
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committee, so they can't.
Have one they can't think.
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About how dumb.
Think about how dumb these
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people are now I've been on
Twitter.
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Listen.
Even fight people.
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Even fight people on Twitter.
Listen everybody in.
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The chat thank y'all thank y'all
I my back has been hurt since
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Saturday and I've never dealt
with back pain and it sucks.
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So I'm, I'm barely hanging on on
some some muscle relaxers and
422
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:18,240
whine or something right now.
But this is what I I just want
423
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,840
to say thank you to the chat.
Thank you to everybody who
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follows me on on X or has come
across my timeline on X to keep
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00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,600
me entertained while I'm laying
in the bed.
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00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,600
Because if nothing else,
Virginia Tech Twitter has been
427
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,880
on Penn State's ass.
I love it, I love it.
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00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,200
I just love it, man.
It's been some new.
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00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,040
It's been some new accounts that
popped up and I'm trying to
430
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,800
follow everybody that just have
had me rolling.
431
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,360
It hurts me to laugh right now.
My back hurts so bad that it
432
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:56,280
hurts to laugh.
So I just been in there trying
433
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,040
my best to hold these laughs in
from people jumping on Penn
434
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,560
State Twitter.
Stay on them.
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00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,120
Had somebody come on that Curtis
and say somebody said hey y'all,
436
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,640
we need to quit talking about
Penn State to focus on ourselves
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00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,440
and you said fuck that, fuck
them.
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00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,760
No, they asked for.
We didn't ask for what.
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They and what they did is they
took I think and everybody's
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going to say well on field
coaching.
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00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,880
I think as a whole sense James
Franklin is a top 15 coach.
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He is top 15 coach.
You don't win that much, you
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00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,760
don't move that deep, you don't
recruit that good.
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Again, my worry was always can
he get the amount of talent to
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Blacksburg?
Well, right now, the honeymoon
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00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,840
phase, he's not having an issue
now.
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00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,800
We'll go now, we'll go a little
bit deeper into some of that.
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00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,600
I know later on in some other
shows, but I did look up 1 stat
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and I'm not the stats guy.
Everybody knows that guy is and
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I ain't even been talking to
him.
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00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,440
I look this up for myself.
You want to know what Lane
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Kiffin's record is as a head
coach compared to James
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Franklin's record?
Lane Kiffin's record from last
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00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,640
time I looked was 117 on wins,
53 loss.
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00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:17,280
James Franklin's was 128 wins,
60 losses, pretty comparable.
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00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,520
I mean, how do you, how do you
say, how do you say this is the
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00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,120
top of the line guy?
This is the bottom of the barrel
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guy?
I'm not saying you're that both
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00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,720
of them are right for any
school, but when you have people
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00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:34,960
that come and talk about just
coaching from what a lot of
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00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,680
people have said, oh, James
Franklin, he sucks, he's
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00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,840
horrible.
He's this, he's that.
463
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,480
I'm like, but wins are wins and
losses are losses.
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00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,480
I understand y'all saying he
didn't win the big games.
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00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,640
Sure, the big games for y'all.
He didn't win the big games for
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y'all when he was at Vanderbilt.
Did he win the big games because
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00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,280
anybody Vanderbilt beats,
especially when he was that was
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00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,760
a big game.
So, well, he.
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00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,240
Beat Tennessee and Florida and
Georgia and Georgia in the same
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00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,440
year.
Or or in the In the course of
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00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,880
three years, he beat off.
They're not big wins, though,
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00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,640
Brian, Those aren't big wins at
Vanderbilt he beat.
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00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,360
Ohio State, he beat Michigan.
Yeah, yeah.
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We don't want to talk about
that, Curtis.
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00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,000
We just want to talk about he's
not a good coach.
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00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,560
Y'all got y'all got him and he
sucks, but then he flips the
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00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,840
whole recruiting class so
somebody believes it.
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00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,400
Well, let's let's.
Also, talk about hold on Curtis.
479
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,440
Hold on Brian, I ain't.
Going he's he's, he's on.
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00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,600
He's on a roll right now.
OK, go back.
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00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,200
Let's go.
Look, yeah, look at my boy Will
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00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,840
in the in the in the in the
comments, he said.
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Not to mention Lane's a, a, a
trash human being.
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I ain't going to go that far
because I like Lane.
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00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,120
But to go follow him and see
some of the stuff he did, well,
486
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:47,520
he was at USCUSC.
He wasn't just say losing.
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00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,520
I think his record, that was
like 28 and 15.
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They left him at the They left.
Him at.
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00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,720
The Yeah, they left.
They left him.
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00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,040
Now, when he left Tennessee,
they threw tomatoes at him.
491
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,400
So when he was at Alabama, Dick
Sabin wouldn't let him talk
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00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,080
because he thought he was an
idiot.
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00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,000
Come on, man.
But now he's the darling of he's
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00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,840
the darling of college football.
Now he's the greatest coach
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00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,240
ever.
I'm I'm going to put this up
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00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,880
real quick.
Let y'all read that.
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00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:26,080
Let.
Me see what it says Yep so.
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00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,000
I'm going to tell you.
Can I say something real quick?
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00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,360
Thanks, Chris makes Ben safe and
I'm going to tell you something.
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00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,240
Go back and look and, and, and
I'm and I'm going to tie this to
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00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,280
Tech because hey, I got that
compass right up here.
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00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,240
If Frank Beamer, if there had
been a playoff from like 1995 to
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00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,080
like 2011, Frank Beamer would
have made it like I think they
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00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,880
said 10 times.
That's what we want, right?
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00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,480
You ain't got to be perfect.
It ain't got to be every year,
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00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,160
but you got to be fighting for
it every year.
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00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,520
And I think what they've done
and Brian, I think I sent, I
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00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:06,000
think I told you this, you took
a top 15 coach, you kept him in
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00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:10,000
the same area and you put a damn
chip on his shoulder.
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00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,040
And then what you did is you
took a program who hasn't been
511
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,880
invested in football for the
last 10 years and everybody
512
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,880
realized, hey, we need to write
big checks.
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00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:24,280
And they wrote some really big
ass checks to say go do it.
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00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:32,080
It is a perfect storm.
And then the primary challenger
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00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,600
to recruits in the Mid-Atlantic
can't get their shit straight.
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00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,800
They still can't get their shit
straight.
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00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,560
Because I think what happened is
everybody knows Pat Kraft's a
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00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,560
piece of shit.
And they're finally figuring
519
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800
out, you know, why James, why he
fired James?
520
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,040
Because James got on his ass
about don't fuck with my roster,
521
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,800
don't fuck with my NAL deals for
my kid, Don't tell me what I'm
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00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,280
doing as a head coach.
And that's why he got called,
523
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,800
because the guy above him said,
I'm going to just get rid of
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00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,200
you.
And now they're paying the
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00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,120
price.
There we go.
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00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,800
I'm glad he did it.
Thank the.
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00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,040
Lord me too me too hold on, hold
on, hold that hold that Robbie
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00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,800
story.
I mean we're firing off in here
529
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,400
all right.
I want to do this before I I I
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00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,720
still want to talk a little bit
more about the money, but I want
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00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,800
to get on this because we I got
to I got to hold y'all's
532
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,680
attention here all right, 3 and
9 football team, but there's
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00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,080
talent here.
I, I told y'all to start
534
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,360
thinking about it, Tally while
you were driving, Brian, while
535
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:32,600
you were chilling around the
house.
536
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,600
Who has to be on this team next
year?
537
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:41,720
Y'all just start going through
names and I can chat y'all.
538
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,680
Y'all feel too From the 20/20/25
everybody's got eligibility has
539
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,560
to be on this team next year.
I think.
540
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,920
You know Jeffrey Elberton,
junior.
541
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200
Yeah, exactly.
I think really both, both
542
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,440
running backs, Hawkins and
Overton, I'd love to have both
543
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,840
of them back.
You know when we look at wide
544
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,640
receiver Brody, give him back
the young.
545
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:06,920
Guys, you have to.
They're young.
546
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,560
You got Keelan, you got Chance.
He's going to be a project.
547
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,520
Snoop Peterkin.
You really want AG back.
548
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,840
If you can get AG back to let
him have a quarterback that can
549
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,960
get him the ball, I mean it's
going to be good.
550
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,600
Have having somebody that has
that experience and that that
551
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,239
amount of leadership in that
unit.
552
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,400
I mean, I feel like he's he's
had to groan from grow from a
553
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,480
leadership standpoint this year
just because of the
554
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,040
circumstances that we were
dealt.
555
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,040
You know, whether it's whether
it's the old man basically
556
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,679
quitting on the team in the
middle of the year.
557
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,320
You know, he ends up, you know,
being the being the kind of
558
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,080
leader in the clubhouse there
for that, for that group as the
559
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,920
season kind of wrapped up here,
You know, flipping to the other
560
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,280
side of the ball, You know, I I
got Copeland and Woodson kind of
561
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,480
circled.
Copeland Woodson, definitely
562
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,600
Caleb Spencer, Caleb Spencer and
probably Isaiah Spencer because
563
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,680
they finally figured out he
could return punts and he made
564
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,760
some moves.
I'll throw, I'll throw you a
565
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:21,880
name right now and I'm looking
at it Benji Gosnell, cause Benji
566
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,840
Gosnell has a year of
eligibility left.
567
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,360
We didn't.
I don't know.
568
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,200
This year they didn't.
Nope.
569
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,400
He had I think 32 catches last
year and this year he had 10.
570
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,080
Well, we talked about at the
start of the season that Titans
571
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,320
are not featured in the passing
game in Monty's offenses.
572
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,480
They have not been historically,
and they definitely weren't this
573
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,240
year.
All right, I got 1.
574
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,680
Steven.
Steven threw it in his big list.
575
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,680
Noah Chambers.
Noah Chambers.
576
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,160
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
577
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,800
Noah Chambers.
Noah.
578
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,400
Somebody put it in the chat.
Somebody put Al Tuner in the
579
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,520
chat as well for him to be a
freshman center.
580
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:05,600
He he showed a lot of good this
year, you know, but it was so
581
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,560
hard, man, because we've seen
people sometime we didn't see
582
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,560
them, you know, some people
left, some people hurt.
583
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,320
Q Reddish.
What about Q Reddish?
584
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,400
Well.
He got hurt.
585
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,720
And that's what I'm saying.
But if you come, we know what he
586
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,760
has to offer.
Do you do you want him back?
587
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,000
Because I think you, you got to
have somebody like that.
588
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,120
Yeah.
Radish is an NFL guy.
589
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,240
And we haven't seen him all year
because of injuries, but Joshua
590
00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:33,720
Clark, please.
Yes, Joshua Clark.
591
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,400
Well, then you had guys who were
big time recruits last cycle,
592
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,080
like Platter ball.
I mean, played sometimes this
593
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:46,200
year like, yeah, I don't think
this team is too devoid of
594
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,800
talent.
I think some of the talent are
595
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,040
babies.
And I think with Noah Chambers,
596
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,320
you saw that a lot.
He would be just a he, he knew
597
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,040
where the gap was, but it was
just a slight hesitation to get
598
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,400
there.
And that's not anything about
599
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,840
anything wrong with him, right?
That's just saying as as both of
600
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,640
y'all know, he's young, playing
D1 football as an 18 year old.
601
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:09,800
Yeah, there's a reason he's a
hesitation because he's not
602
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,200
ready.
He shouldn't be playing right.
603
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,160
Now that's kind of the case.
I think with this roster across
604
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,440
the board.
I think there are a lot of these
605
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,080
guys that saw some time this
year that are going to be very
606
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,120
solid 2 deep players.
If they're, you know, if they
607
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,160
end up being Hokies next year, I
think it's more we need to
608
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:32,160
improve that frontline a lot
more.
609
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:36,440
You know, we obviously had depth
issues at cornerback and safety.
610
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,440
We know that.
We talked about that ad nauseam
611
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:42,000
at this point.
You know, we had inconsistent
612
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,560
play at linebacker because we
were either young or it was guys
613
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,920
that were too old and just not
get the job done because they
614
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,160
never got the job done.
Keller, Sorry.
615
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,600
And.
On the other side of the ball,
616
00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:02,040
you had a offensive line that
showed some steps in the running
617
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,080
game but never really put it
together from a pass pro
618
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,720
perspective.
And that only got worse when you
619
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:11,760
started having some trickle down
of some of your your guards
620
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:17,080
getting injured.
You know, you're sliding the
621
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,160
remark kind of across the line,
sliding down in the guard,
622
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,120
having to put Aiden Lynch out
there.
623
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:26,480
Aiden Lynch was not ready to to
play that many snaps in this
624
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,120
offense.
It wasn't not.
625
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,800
At all.
And, you know, you you combine
626
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,480
that with the system that
probably isn't best designed for
627
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,120
Kyron's talents.
And.
628
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,400
Now he doesn't have time either
and it was a very bad
629
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,840
combination for the passing
game.
630
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,280
Yeah, real bad.
You know, another one I think
631
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,960
about and and some people are
going to baby jump in the chat
632
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,040
and say no, he was absolute shit
this year.
633
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,160
Isaiah Brown Murray played good
out of position.
634
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,720
He is not an outside corner.
He is like 5 foot 8 1/2 on a
635
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:02,440
good day, but he played his ass
off in his PFF grades.
636
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,440
He was like a 75, which that's
borderline on that 80, which is
637
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,120
you start getting to the 80s, it
means you're a really good
638
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,840
player.
He had a pick, he had a bunch of
639
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,800
past deflections and that was
playing out of position most of
640
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:20,760
the time.
So it not this week, next week
641
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,840
when all the conversations have
and Penn State probably gets
642
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,640
their coach and that portal
opens up, you're going to figure
643
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,560
out what this team looks like
and who's going to stay and
644
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,120
who's going to go.
And there's probably names we've
645
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,400
been talking about the last 8 or
9 minutes that won't come back.
646
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,960
And it's going to suck.
It's going to be like, like guys
647
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,680
you like.
But as far as it goes, you, you,
648
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,800
you hit them right off the top
head.
649
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,520
Y'all both did Hawkins and
Overton next year.
650
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,160
Y'all saw how they run.
And I think the way James
651
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,960
Franklin featured running backs,
you know, you think about all
652
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,200
the guys he had up there and how
good of a running game they had.
653
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,240
I, I, I, if somebody wants to
dive into the stats, I wish
654
00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:03,400
Sheldon was here because he'd be
doing it in the background.
655
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:10,600
I don't know if he's ever had.
Two backs that good at points in
656
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,520
their career where you can play
them both.
657
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,920
If somebody can go tell me.
The two guys he has now is
658
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,800
pretty good, right?
I'm thank you.
659
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,480
Tried Allen.
You tried Allen?
660
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,840
And what's the other guy's name?
It's true.
661
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,760
Is it single?
Yeah.
662
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,880
Yeah, Singleton.
Both of those guys are seniors
663
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,600
and they're both good players.
I'd have to look at stats to see
664
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,840
exactly what they're what
they're, what they have, but
665
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,040
both very productive, probably
Sunday guys.
666
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,480
Probably with I don't, I don't
think that's any doubt
667
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:48,720
whatsoever, but it just goes
back to the point of there
668
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:53,240
again, we, we don't sit here
y'all and say man, we're
669
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,200
poverty, we don't have any
talent.
670
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:02,560
This isn't 2021 going into 2022.
This isn't De Fuente era going
671
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,200
into the pride.
Yeah.
672
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:10,080
There is talent here, there are
guys with exceptional abilities
673
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,800
here.
And unfortunately we just did
674
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,400
not have the staff to put it
together.
675
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,880
And that leads me into this.
I mean, if everybody didn't see
676
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,320
it and, and, and it's been out
now a while.
677
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:28,600
First of all, Franklin's deal,
$42 million essentially, and
678
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,440
basically Penn State's playing
half of the first three years
679
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,160
because we don't really start
paying a lot of money until
680
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,080
20/29 at 12.25.
Yeah.
681
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,600
And I mean the average over the
the course is like right at 8
682
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,560
and a.
Half 8 1/2 so about 1,000,000
683
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,840
bucks more.
Now he goes out and does
684
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,320
something stupid the next couple
years and blows up.
685
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,520
Just get the checkbook out.
Go ahead extend it.
686
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,200
Go ahead and extend it, but then
it's the budget for everything
687
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:04,200
else that just.
It blew my mind. 9.5 for the
688
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,640
assistant coach pool.
Y'all know where that stands?
689
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,000
Y'all know where that stands?
Did y'all see where it stands
690
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:16,120
currently in college football?
44 number 4.
691
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,320
Now I know it's going to be,
yeah, that's what's going to be
692
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,520
super important because how many
times that we look at stuff and
693
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,240
again, Karen is my guy.
Karen's a great kid.
694
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,960
Karen regressed tremendously
while he's been here.
695
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,240
What favours did we do him,
though?
696
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,960
No quarterbacks coach changing
OCS.
697
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,840
I mean, we just, we ran a line.
Coach every year is not helping
698
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,600
him.
We ran it like a hockey mouse
699
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,600
club.
You know, you get a quarterback
700
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,600
coach in here, Franklin's going
to go get a a true quarterback
701
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,000
coach.
And I want to know who those
702
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,400
coordinators are because those
coordinators are going what's
703
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,640
going to make or break the tape.
We know Franklin's going to get
704
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,440
some talent.
He's going to get talent.
705
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,760
Yeah, and it and it sounds like
you're looking at this and look
706
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:05,280
at the way Franklin's contract
is structured, all those things
707
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:13,280
he knows out the gate he's going
to need top money, coordinators
708
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,640
and coaches on this staff to get
this thing humming the way it
709
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,040
needs to.
And it and.
710
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,720
It's structured in a way that
he's able to do that out the
711
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:27,240
gate with this 9 million.
It is structured now, but, but,
712
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,880
but, but who do you want?
Somebody put it in a little
713
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,160
earlier.
The way we recruited online,
714
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,520
Phil Trodden is the offensive
line coach, the kid coming from
715
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,320
Ben State.
That's you can go ahead and
716
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,440
write that name down.
As many kids as have went
717
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,480
straight from there to here.
I mean, and, and you don't have
718
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,240
him on staff yet.
It's basically a handshake deal.
719
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:51,560
We're just waiting for this
thing to get going, which I'm
720
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,040
sure we'll hear something
probably towards the end of this
721
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,600
week on that front.
We'll start to see the first
722
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,440
assistant hires come in.
You know what I'd like to see?
723
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,480
It'd be cool as shit.
Y'all?
724
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,040
Y'all seen Reservoir Dogs right?
I'm inviting you.
725
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,200
Maybe you ever seen?
Reservoir Dogs tally you ever
726
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:12,040
seen could he just like come out
tomorrow during the signing day
727
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,600
things and all the guys like in
suits just like walking out in a
728
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,800
slow motion scene you start
realizing like.
729
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:19,680
That man can do what he want to
do.
730
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,440
Yeah, that man.
Can do what he want to do, but
731
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,800
but let's talk about the let's
talk about the coordinators,
732
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,800
because there's a couple names
that are there's three names
733
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,920
that are floating around big.
There's Ricky, Ronnie, everybody
734
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,840
knows the ODU coach.
He other than Joe Moorehead, had
735
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:42,680
the best offensives under under
Franklin up at Penn State.
736
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,760
His offensive coordinator,
Blake, I think he's Blake
737
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,600
Decker.
Is it Blake?
738
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,480
I know it's Decker.
I'm about to say something that
739
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,480
was put in a chat earlier today,
but I'm not because if he don't
740
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,520
get hired, we got to let that
roll out.
741
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,400
And then there's the ECU guy,
John David Baker.
742
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,360
John David Baker, ECU, the 14th
rated total offense this year.
743
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,720
He comes from Lane Kiffentry.
Everybody, like Lane, likes to
744
00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,680
pass the ball.
Tally Does Lane like to pass the
745
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,240
ball?
He does.
746
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:13,760
But what does he like to do even
more?
747
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,080
Run get on people's nerves.
He'd like to ruin though.
748
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:23,200
He likes to run the damn ball.
Those are the three names and
749
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,040
and you start looking to say,
well, under lane Baker didn't do
750
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,480
shit, but he went to ECU and
he's killing it.
751
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:39,520
And 11 years ago, 11 years ago,
if they had made maybe one offer
752
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,720
to a guy down at ECU, could have
changed the director of the
753
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,920
program.
Y'all tell me who that is in the
754
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:48,040
chat.
But I like all three names.
755
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:52,000
But what do y'all think?
Do y'all have coaches,
756
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,960
coordinators that just
immediately say, can you go hire
757
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,200
that guy?
Whether it's from this old
758
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:05,840
staff, new staff, whatever.
I mean, you know, looking at,
759
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,360
you know, John David Baker
definitely has me intrigued.
760
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:14,120
I don't know if he's going to be
the guy, but I certainly would
761
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,440
be fine with that as as the OC
higher.
762
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,960
Yeah, about DC, do you think?
Do y'all think Tom Allen has a
763
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,080
Could we steal Tom Allen from
Clemson?
764
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,280
They didn't have a good year
down there, but God damn it, he
765
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,680
killed it last year at Penn
State.
766
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,680
Yeah.
Definitely make that.
767
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,640
Call, and I'm sure he already
has at this point, and you make
768
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,880
you make him tell you no because
you can.
769
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,560
You can pay him what Clemson's
paying him.
770
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,800
Yeah, But you know how double
is, double has a way to get
771
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,880
people to stay where he wants
them to stay.
772
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,200
So he had those, and I'm not
saying he does, but he had those
773
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,360
coordinators that he had for
years and years.
774
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,040
Things just you know, when they
finally got here coaching jobs,
775
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,600
Clemson didn't quite look the
same.
776
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,760
But I don't know man, I don't
really have a name to throw out,
777
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,600
but I do just want to get a
defense.
778
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,960
I know defensive coordinator
means a lot, but you got to have
779
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,640
people in the places too.
I just want to get a defense
780
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:18,680
that looks like when you go look
at Miami like they're big, they
781
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,240
fast, they physical.
We always seem like AJV team
782
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:26,360
playing a varsity team, even
when we beat them, even in some
783
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:31,200
of the years that we're as good
as them or you know, we get them
784
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:39,600
on the field.
Maybe 2016 our our ones when
785
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,800
Miami came up to Blacksburg, our
ones looked great.
786
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,200
But when you start to get in the
2 deep, you know, and you got to
787
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,960
roll people in our defensive
line.
788
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,160
We we rolling out, you know, 6
foot defensive lineman that's
789
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,440
twitchy.
It's cool, I get it.
790
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,240
We've had that, but the game has
progressed so much farther past
791
00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:00,800
that.
If you want to be somebody like,
792
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,440
and I don't even want to say
his.
793
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,920
Name like Aaron.
Donald, you don't.
794
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,800
They don't make Aaron Donald's
no more.
795
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,400
You know what I'm saying?
Like Aaron Donald was an
796
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,760
undersized lineman, but he
worked his butt off.
797
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,840
He was strong as a house.
They don't really make a lot of
798
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,680
a lot of defensive lineman like
that.
799
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,760
So you got to get big in the
trenches and then when we go
800
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,880
play somebody like this year we
go play Miami and you look at
801
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,680
their offensive line, they're
going to get 2 yards.
802
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,920
If they need 2 yards, you can go
for it on 4th and two on your
803
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,120
own 20 because you know you're
going to get it.
804
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,760
So whoever we put on that
defensive side of the ball, I
805
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,160
just want them to go get
somebody who was going buy into
806
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,560
what Virginia Tech has been in
the past.
807
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,320
Like, I know we're moving in the
future, but Virginia Tech's a
808
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,000
defensive school, you know what
I'm saying?
809
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Like we've had some good
offensive players, but we're
810
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,800
really a defensive school.
So more than all of the stuff
811
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,880
that we're getting on offense, I
want them to focus and get that
812
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,120
defense right.
Like we got to have a top
813
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,640
defense.
And it was Lincoln around 2013
814
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,920
and 2014.
You're right, we need a top
815
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,440
notch defense and there's so
many things to bring in and
816
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,120
somebody put in like Tim Banks
who's over at Tennessee, they
817
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,640
want his head because he gave up
45 to Vanderbilt.
818
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,000
Like they need to fire him
yesterday.
819
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,320
Like they were pretty good
ranked defense last year.
820
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,680
Y'all want to get rid of him?
Sure, we'll take him over here.
821
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,880
He Got Talent back to coach
anyway.
822
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,400
You know, that's people making
drastic decisions off of 1 game,
823
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,400
one game.
That's how that's how that's how
824
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:49,160
we got in this situation.
So put up Stevens down there
825
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,600
just I got it.
I do think I don't think he's
826
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,360
going to change that first year.
I don't.
827
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,560
Fergus is a good culture guy,
man.
828
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,320
He's he's we look better this
year, even though the record was
829
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,640
bad.
Yeah.
830
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,120
Yeah, I, I think he's a culture
guy.
831
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:16,000
I think he there's just
something that probably will.
832
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,800
I think we'll speak to Franklin
with Bird.
833
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,680
So you know, y'all been throwing
names in here up and down.
834
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,520
It's it's going to come to
fruition in the next probably
835
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,800
week.
And I know I said a week from
836
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,120
now we're going to talk about
all the recruits and mention
837
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,440
them and where they come from
and all that fun stuff.
838
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,720
But I think about a week from
now, we're going to who the
839
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:38,200
coordinators are.
We're going to know who the
840
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,920
position coaches are for the
most part.
841
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:43,560
But the other part about, and it
was Brandon Masello's treat
842
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:48,400
tweet, excuse me, the support
staff is up to 6,000,000.
843
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,840
It doubled that budget, doubled
that's.
844
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,560
Crazy.
And then recruiting budget went
845
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:57,320
up more than double from 1.26 to
3.
846
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,160
And that's just a recruiting
budget.
847
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,240
That's not staff.
That's just getting people in
848
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,840
and out of Blacksburg visiting
places.
849
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,320
And I'm going to tell you.
Lavar, you late.
850
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,960
Lavar is late.
Hey, you know, Lavar long time.
851
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:23,480
But I think overall the way that
goes, it's just it's it's insane
852
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:29,440
to see the amount of money they
are putting into it for for so
853
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,600
long.
They didn't.
854
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,720
And it reminds me for those who
are old enough here, it reminds
855
00:51:35,720 --> 00:51:42,160
me of the year 2000.
The year 2000 when Frank was
856
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:47,480
going to leave for UMC and they
dumped money when it wasn't him.
857
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,200
At that point, Frank was set for
life.
858
00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:53,760
They dumped the money into
everything else and for the
859
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,920
next.
Decade you poured.
860
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:01,720
You poured a lot of money into
your assistant pool and a good
861
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:04,280
good chunk of money into your
facilities, and then you let it
862
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:09,600
roll for a decade.
That's it.
863
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,960
But you keep up.
You don't get back to this
864
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,280
bullshit of what we're doing,
OK, What we're doing with.
865
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,000
You keep up.
You keep up with the times.
866
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,160
You keep up with the money.
You got to re evaluate what the
867
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:23,560
plan is.
Like you have a five year plan,
868
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,040
right?
But you're still re evaluating
869
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,160
that five year plan every
fucking year to make sure that
870
00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:33,000
what you would forecast is still
going to pass muster.
871
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:38,840
True.
All right, so there's all that
872
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,360
fun stuff.
Let's just talk about coaching
873
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,360
carousel in general.
I'm on, I'm on list.
874
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,840
I'm on.
I'm on list names real quick.
875
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:52,160
Good for you, Lavar.
For your wife.
876
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:57,240
All right, I'm going to start
throwing names out here.
877
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,520
Y'all ready?
And this is some are in
878
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,320
official, some are not official.
I'll start with Stanford because
879
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,800
they didn't have a coach because
Andrew Blood fired their coach
880
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,480
in the offseason, DaVita
Pritchard, who is the Redskins
881
00:53:11,720 --> 00:53:18,240
quarterbacks coach?
Eric Morris, he was the North
882
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:20,200
Texas guy.
He's going to Oklahoma State.
883
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,560
Cool.
Arkansas got silver field,
884
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,520
Memphis tally don't like it.
Brian's like, I wish, I wish I
885
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,680
don't like.
I don't like it for him.
886
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:47,240
Auburn got Pete Golish from USF
John Summerall Pete Pete Golish?
887
00:53:47,240 --> 00:53:48,480
Yeah.
OK.
888
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,280
Pete Golish there John Summerall
took Florida after two weeks
889
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,680
ago.
Apparently he canceled the
890
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,920
meeting to Florida.
Should.
891
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,040
Have flipped those.
I'm about to go when I know you
892
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:04,400
don't give a thumbs up on tally
Pat Fitzgerald to Michigan
893
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,400
State, OH.
Yeah, that's.
894
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,320
Good.
That yeah, that they nailed
895
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,000
that.
That's probably that might be
896
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,560
the third best hire of the
cycle.
897
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:15,360
Yeah, it's.
Easily.
898
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,000
It's definitely top five.
It could be, like you said, top
899
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:22,160
three, top three.
Ole Miss said fuck you, Lane.
900
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:25,080
We're just going to stick with
Pete Golden as our head coach.
901
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:27,840
I think that's that's them Just
yeah, I give.
902
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:29,320
Them a thumbs up, I give them a
thumbs up.
903
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,640
The the the.
The the few that are tied I.
904
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,800
Give them a thumbs up because
that's the only way they were
905
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,760
going to stay somewhat.
That's the only way they're
906
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,000
going to stay somewhat together.
Like if they had to go through a
907
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,720
search and pull somebody else
in, I feel like it was going to
908
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:49,720
get real pin statish.
Well, also the way they're
909
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:54,520
dealing with things right now,
like they're legitimately
910
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:56,880
probably going to make the
College Football Playoff.
911
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,280
They are.
So like you've got to you've got
912
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,000
to still put a product out
there.
913
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,880
So that that that's the only
reason I like it.
914
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,280
I mean, I think it's time will
tell whether that's a good long
915
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,440
term hire, but I think it's
definitely the best they can do
916
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,920
in the short term.
Consider the circumstances.
917
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,080
True.
All right.
918
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:21,520
Now there are the ones being
tied, and that is Bob Chesney to
919
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,040
UCLA.
He's JMU coach Will Stein to
920
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,240
Kentucky.
I don't know neither one.
921
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,000
There's one name I didn't
mention.
922
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,480
We've already talked about them
all throughout the program.
923
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:37,120
Penn State has nobody Kalani
Sataki staying at BYU, getting
924
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,320
more money than anybody from
Crumble Cookie.
925
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:45,600
And then last, then last but not
least, Lane Kiffin takes LSU.
926
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:52,440
That was a good move for him.
It's a good move for him.
927
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,600
LSU has a LSU has a top ten
class and he don't have to do
928
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,280
nothing to it.
True, He don't have he didn't
929
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,520
have to recruit.
He just walked in the building.
930
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:08,280
They've already a top ten class.
I think I'd have to go look at
931
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,120
it.
Maybe 10 out of there, 15
932
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,920
recruits are from Louisiana, and
it's always like that.
933
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,400
They ain't going to have to do
much to continue.
934
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:21,600
He had to work his butt off to
get people to to Ole Miss.
935
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,480
I'm not saying that he's right.
I'm just saying Lane is who he
936
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,120
is.
They're going to pay me a lot of
937
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:28,680
money and they're going to make
my job easy.
938
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,080
And Lane was like, hell yeah,
let's do it.
939
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,280
But he's coeds.
I can't remember the name they
940
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,600
gave him down at Bama.
Somebody will tell him, tell us
941
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,120
in the chat, some name they gave
him.
942
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,320
He used to go out under a fake
alias at Bama and get on girls.
943
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,520
Tony.
Tony's something I I can't.
944
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,120
Remember, man.
Well, well, the whole, but the
945
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,120
funny part about that tally, and
don't you think about it, where
946
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,680
he's had his success at the
Tennessee thing.
947
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,520
I always throw is a one off.
He was there one year.
948
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:00,680
You don't know what was going to
happen.
949
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:07,360
He had his success at Ole Miss,
FAU, where he had to work right.
950
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,480
He had success at Alabama
because fucking Nick Saban made
951
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,200
him work.
What's the one job he took that
952
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,400
recruits itself and how they do?
There?
953
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:22,160
You mentioned it earlier, USC.
He didn't do shit there, did he?
954
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,800
He didn't.
But again, he took, he took that
955
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,840
job at a bad time, though.
He took.
956
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,520
That job?
At a bad time.
957
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,400
But it's still.
USC because it you.
958
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,760
It used to be USC, especially
Pete Carroll's USC, sucked all
959
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,040
the recruiting oxygen out of the
whole fucking West Coast, and it
960
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,840
was not that case when he took
that job.
961
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,480
No, but you know, he doesn't
care about the money though.
962
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,760
Here's the one thing I will say
about him taking that job and I
963
00:57:54,760 --> 00:58:00,480
said it earlier, he knows now he
he is a genius offensive mind.
964
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,640
I don't give a damn what you
say.
965
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,000
Whether you like him or hate
him, he is a genius offensive
966
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:06,440
mind.
He knows how to call plays.
967
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,560
He knows how to dial things up.
But the issue that going there,
968
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,960
you fuck around and lose 8 games
a couple times at Ole Miss.
969
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:19,400
Do they care Tally No you you
down in that part they don't you
970
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,160
fuck around and lose a couple
have a couple eight win seasons
971
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,680
at LSU it's.
Going to get over.
972
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,320
Bye.
And with him and his track
973
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,320
record, they will find a way to
get out of the contract.
974
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,000
You know what happened?
We walked in and he was freaking
975
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,600
doing, he was doing blow off
hookers in the in the facility
976
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,840
here.
And probably most of us would
977
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:51,000
say, yeah, it probably happened.
So OK, OK, do y'all feel that
978
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,600
based on where it is that
Franklin's you the first or
979
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,640
second best of that group?
100%.
980
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,400
OK, 100%.
I I think if you say payer,
981
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:08,000
where the programs are and who
took the job, I think he was the
982
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,920
best hire.
Follow back up.
983
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,160
Now, if you if you're just
saying who got the best coach
984
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:18,640
overall, probably LSU.
Talent, go ahead, you about to.
985
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,120
Say that I put that.
I was just going to say I put it
986
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,480
at 2.
Just when you look at things, if
987
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,440
you didn't know anything about
college football and you just
988
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,960
came on an Athlean spaceship and
started watching ESPN, the most
989
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,560
you're hearing about coaching
wise and recruiting wise is
990
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,400
going to be LSU and Lane Kiffin
and then James Franklin and
991
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,640
Virginia Tech.
Franklin does this.
992
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,600
Go look at 247.
If y'all ain't on 247, they had
993
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,960
a great sale going on.
You can get the whole year for
994
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,560
like 30 bucks.
I did it.
995
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,080
Shout out to 247.
I like to go on in, see people
996
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,920
talk crap.
You see Virginia Tech pop up
997
00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:01,160
more in the last two weeks than
you have in the last five years
998
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,600
probably.
I've got more ESPN notices about
999
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,640
Virginia Tech in the last two
weeks than I have and I know the
1000
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,480
last three years.
So.
1001
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,520
Yeah, Franklin is Franklin's
doing work.
1002
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,920
Great job.
Great job for us, man.
1003
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,760
I mean, again, I'm not, I always
am going to follow the program.
1004
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,040
I'm not a coach guy.
I'm just enjoying the success
1005
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,360
while it's here.
What I think probably happens
1006
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:34,880
with Franklin is he, he propels
Virginia Tech to be top 15 team.
1007
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,440
Somebody comes along and tries
to steal him away in two to
1008
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,440
three years, you know.
But if that does happen, where
1009
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,000
will Virginia Tech be at that
time?
1010
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,520
You know, that's true.
We should be in a better place
1011
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,720
than we are now.
So in.
1012
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,640
The in the funny.
Times, a lot of times are good.
1013
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,520
And the funny part is, say what
you will, we're in a better
1014
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,000
place than where we were four
years ago.
1015
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,320
Yeah, you crap on Brent Prowl.
You want the relationships he
1016
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,400
built.
This will make it a lot easier
1017
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,760
for James.
Things that were brought to the
1018
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,840
attention, even for when they
bringing things to attention
1019
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,640
about the spending, we're in a
lot better place than where we
1020
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,880
were four years ago.
All right, Now, let me ask y'all
1021
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,760
this.
Take those two names out of the
1022
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,920
equation.
Y'all know who mine is.
1023
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,040
I think Pat Fitzgerald's the
third best hire.
1024
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,000
Who's y'all's third who?
Who nailed their hire?
1025
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,200
I mean, I think Arkansas did as
good as they can do.
1026
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:30,720
Damn.
Well they're not going to get
1027
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,520
James Franklin up.
They.
1028
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,880
All right, that's going to get
everybody people looking stupid.
1029
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,840
I don't know, man.
I'm I'm a big summerall guy.
1030
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,800
I think that I think Florida is
a hard place to win, but I think
1031
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,720
that they got a good coach.
So again, that's just that's a
1032
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,840
little bit biased to me because
he's from here.
1033
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,160
So I'll watch him a little bit
more than other people.
1034
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,720
But like some of the Auburn
people, man, like they didn't
1035
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,840
want him.
It was like, no, you know, we've
1036
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:03,200
watched him.
He's not ready for he's not
1037
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,400
ready for the SEC.
And then you go hire a guy from
1038
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:11,360
South Florida.
I'm like, oh Lord, OK, see how
1039
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,480
this goes.
I mean, they're more, I mean
1040
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,640
caliber wise what they've done
in their in the, in their spans
1041
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,000
at those spots.
I mean, they're very similar
1042
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,000
caliber coaches.
I don't, I don't think like it's
1043
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,440
it's hard to knock Summerall at
Auburn and then feel OK with
1044
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,840
with who they ended up.
With, but see, right.
1045
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:32,560
And that's the thing with me,
I'm like, I feel like what
1046
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:38,160
they've done in the G5 ranks
have kind of been parallel, but
1047
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,640
Goldish has been in Florida.
So when I say a South Florida
1048
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,320
guy, I'm saying like he's been
recruiting down there.
1049
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:49,080
He's been in that area.
People know him, you know, from
1050
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:50,600
what he's doing in South
Florida.
1051
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,320
How hard would it have been?
And I get Florida's, you know,
1052
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,480
talent riched, but if you're
going to recruit out of Florida,
1053
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,920
a coach that can go in and say,
hey, I've had success at South
1054
01:02:59,920 --> 01:03:07,000
Florida, just come here to, you
know, Florida, Florida, it seems
1055
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,640
like it was going to work
perfect for them.
1056
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:14,240
And then Summerall who was at
Troy, had some success at Troy,
1057
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,200
had some, you know, good players
there.
1058
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,560
Then he goes out to Tulane
because they double the salary
1059
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,640
or triple the salary.
Of course he's going to leave.
1060
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,800
But again, his footprint is
around Alabama.
1061
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,200
You know, he's from Alabama.
He played at Kentucky, he's
1062
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,320
coached in Alabama.
He was gone down to, you know,
1063
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:39,760
Louisiana for one year.
Now you pull him back in.
1064
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,040
He's built a lot of
relationships.
1065
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,600
And this ain't something that
I'm guessing this is stuff that
1066
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:48,200
I know he's built really good
relationships with high school
1067
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,920
coaches in Alabama and around
the Auburn program.
1068
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,320
So now you're going to take that
and just throw it away and then
1069
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,840
you don't have to build it up
fresh because when you're
1070
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:03,200
recruiting to get somebody like
Alabama, Alabama is a national
1071
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,960
presents, right?
They can go get just about who
1072
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,240
they want from anywhere.
Florida has to be a little bit
1073
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,640
more local and more centralized
because you're recruiting
1074
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,880
against them.
You can take and and and that's
1075
01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:19,920
no knock on the kids to go to
Auburn because a lot of good
1076
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,440
football is played in Alabama
and a lot of those kids go to
1077
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,560
Auburn.
They just kind of feel like they
1078
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,080
got have got looked over by
Alabama or Auburn.
1079
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,520
Just make them a priority at the
beginning of their recruitment.
1080
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,000
This guy's going to have to come
in and build that up.
1081
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:40,120
And it's like, there's no just
the same as with Virginia Tech.
1082
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,440
Like I told some fans when they
were saying I need to go after a
1083
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,680
coach like this, I'm like, we
don't have time.
1084
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:48,800
You know?
The only thing about Auburn is
1085
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,280
that they're already in the NCC.
If there's a reboot and Virginia
1086
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:57,040
Tech didn't have James Franklin,
we get left out 100%.
1087
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,920
You know, if we played no games
right now and they said, hey,
1088
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,240
we're just going to two
conferences, you know, and
1089
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,120
you're either in this one or
you're in this one or you're
1090
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,120
out.
We got a chance now that they're
1091
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:12,360
going to go James Franklin's
Virginia Tech Hokies, then just
1092
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,440
Bob Chesney's Virginia Tech
Virginia Tech Hokies.
1093
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,920
Basically, Chesney and and
Silverfield were probably going
1094
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:24,480
to be the candidates we would
have ended up looking at if.
1095
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,080
Yeah.
If we had Franklin. 100% by the
1096
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,320
way, Alex was not By the way,
the other thing is Alex.
1097
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,240
There we go.
No, that's it, Pete.
1098
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,080
I don't know where they'll Pete
because I was looking at Pete
1099
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,040
Golden type Pete G.
And the other thing about
1100
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,440
goalish and you didn't mention
this tally but mention it.
1101
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,520
He coached 2 years up at
Tennessee.
1102
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,080
He knows the SEC environment.
That is the other big thing.
1103
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:52,600
He did 4 total years at Florida
between UCF and in South Florida
1104
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,680
and he did two years up with
Hypola Tennessee and you know
1105
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,240
they come down into Florida and
recruit it.
1106
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,600
So but to what you make the
point with Summerall is the guy
1107
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,760
knows everything around here.
Could he just could he be the
1108
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,560
culture fit where you feel like
goalless?
1109
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,760
I mean first of all, if most of
y'all may notice about Alex
1110
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:18,200
goalless man was born in Moscow
Russia not Moscow ID Moscow
1111
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,720
Russia went to Ohio State has
coasted Oklahoma State, Toledo
1112
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,880
Illinois, Iowa State, UCF,
Tennessee, South Florida.
1113
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,800
You want to talk about resume
that looks all jacked up.
1114
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,640
I don't know if that's going to
be a culture that and and if you
1115
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,880
see his personality, you
remember a couple years ago,
1116
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,080
even walking off the field that
coach want to talk to him.
1117
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,640
He was all pissy and he's kept
walking and he kept walking.
1118
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,800
I do feel if he struggles, y'all
want to get some entertaining
1119
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,920
press conferences at Auburn the
next three years.
1120
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,440
So there you go.
Probably so I'm looking forward
1121
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,360
to seeing what.
That's going to look like it's
1122
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,080
going to be a lot of fun.
Anything else on the coach and
1123
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,120
carousel?
Again, not everything's done.
1124
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,800
Kentucky fired their coach.
Could it be Will Stein?
1125
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,600
And again, UCLA thing is not a
done deal yet.
1126
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,200
So it's going to be really
interesting.
1127
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,160
All right, well, we got to pick
some games.
1128
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:23,600
We ain't going against the
spread.
1129
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,840
We ain't got no highlights or
anything like that.
1130
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,160
Tally's didn't tell us what he's
picking, so he's going to be
1131
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,080
going off the cuff right here.
But we've got a bunch of
1132
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,840
conference championship games
this week.
1133
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,280
Going to be a lot of football
watching on Friday and Saturday,
1134
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:40,600
Maybe some partaking in adult
beverages while we're doing
1135
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,720
this.
Tally don't have too much of
1136
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,640
those when you get on those
muscle relaxers.
1137
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,360
I want you jumping on here
starting your own St.
1138
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,680
Hey y'all got to pray for me.
I'll be on the we're leaving a
1139
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:51,360
little cruise on Thursday.
I don't know how I'm going to
1140
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,400
make it you.
Going to make it.
1141
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,240
You going to make it just just
they got a wheelchair.
1142
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,840
To the boat.
I just got to get to the boat,
1143
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,120
man.
Are y'all going out in New
1144
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,480
Orleans?
Yeah, we're driving to New
1145
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,440
Orleans Thursday morning.
Oh, that?
1146
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,360
That's going to be your biggest
deal, right?
1147
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,680
There, that's what I'm talking
about.
1148
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,480
For 9 hours.
What else about 5 from here?
1149
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,240
Is it 5?
Yeah, about 5 or 6 from here.
1150
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,200
We're going to take you 10
because you gonna have to get
1151
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,840
out every hour and stretch so
you don't get all jacked up.
1152
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,000
And the muscle relaxers been
knocking me out, Curtis, the
1153
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,319
ones they gave me yesterday.
Say, maybe I think a nap.
1154
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,960
At 4:00 in the morning.
You going to look at your wife
1155
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,760
and be like, listen, I'm taking
three of these, I'm going to
1156
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,880
drink a bottle of wine and you
just wake me up when we get to
1157
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:35,640
the ship.
Wake me up when we get that roll
1158
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,160
me on the ship that's.
Right.
1159
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,120
Set me at the craps table.
All right, so here we go.
1160
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,800
Let's talk about these games.
Let's make some winning
1161
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:46,359
predictions.
We are not picking against the
1162
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:48,279
spread this week.
Brian said he didn't feel like
1163
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:50,840
thinking about numbers, so we're
going to go with it.
1164
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:56,800
Tally's alma mater is in a
championship game, Kenneth Stall
1165
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,720
State versus Jacksonville State.
Would this be in your school,
1166
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,359
Mr. Talley, who you got this
week?
1167
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:11,160
Give me them cops, them big.
Cops said Tally said.
1168
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,720
I'm going to take the Cox on
this one.
1169
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,520
I'm winning.
I'm riding the Cox as well.
1170
01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:17,319
I'm riding the.
Cox.
1171
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,160
I'm riding the Cox all night.
Go to Jacksonville State, baby.
1172
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,479
Hold on.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
1173
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:25,080
We're not riding no cocks.
We said give me the cocks, not
1174
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,200
riding the cocks.
You want to you want to not ride
1175
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,800
the cock you.
Just, hey, man, Tally, Tally
1176
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,560
said.
We, we bottoms here, man.
1177
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:42,120
We're not tops.
Let's roll Next we got Troy down
1178
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:44,720
in your neck of the woods is
taking on James Madison for the
1179
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:49,720
Sunbelt Championship.
I think it's Friday night we all
1180
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:53,000
got.
If I'm 1st, I'm going to say
1181
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,600
James Madison, man, Even if they
do have some coaching turnover,
1182
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,240
I just think that a better team,
they'll win that game.
1183
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,840
Yeah, they got more talent.
I think they're going to win.
1184
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,800
It Oh yeah, Madison, definitely.
I think they're definitely
1185
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:07,600
winning it.
I don't.
1186
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,040
I think with the between what
Cignetti's done and what
1187
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:15,720
Chesney's done, they probably
have more talent than anybody in
1188
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,480
the Sunbelt and it's showing
every year.
1189
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:22,840
Now the question is, can Bob
Chesney fly his whole team out
1190
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,440
to UCLA next year like Kurt
Signetti did?
1191
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,960
Maybe, maybe not.
All right, next one.
1192
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,520
This to me is going to be an
entertaining gas game on Friday
1193
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,400
night.
You got the sports bar down
1194
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,480
there on the ship.
Tally pull up for this one.
1195
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,840
North Texas versus Tulane on
Saturday night or on Friday
1196
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:48,080
night. 11 in. 1-2 new coaches.
Two schools getting 2 new
1197
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,600
coaches, two coaches getting two
big new jobs.
1198
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,440
Best quarterback in the
countries at North Texas that
1199
01:10:54,440 --> 01:10:58,680
kids probably go to Oklahoma
State followers coach who you
1200
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,800
got tally.
I'm going to North Texas on this
1201
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,440
man.
I feel like Samara's got his
1202
01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:06,480
hands full getting ready to go
to Florida.
1203
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:10,560
So he is already Will's turning
to get that job to get that
1204
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,640
started.
And I think North Texas just got
1205
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,200
a little bit more involved and.
You know, at risk.
1206
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,160
I think when you when you're
dealing with stuff with like
1207
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:22,800
coaching changes and things like
that, you pick the team with the
1208
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:24,640
better quarterback and that's
North Texas.
1209
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,120
It is North Texas, and I think
it's to the point that two
1210
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:33,280
lanes, Summerall's taking a much
bigger position where he's got a
1211
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,040
lot more to think about.
Oklahoma State's dog shit right
1212
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,800
now.
They don't care.
1213
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,320
Just like get here whenever you
can and just bring your
1214
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:41,800
quarterback.
That's all we want.
1215
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,280
We'll figure it out in three or
four years.
1216
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:49,440
I'm taking North Texas on that.
All right, Kind of weird.
1217
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:51,920
Usually it's the Mountain West
Conference of the small
1218
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:53,480
conferences getting the big
talk.
1219
01:11:53,480 --> 01:11:57,720
This year's UNLV and Dan Mullen,
who I'm guessing is going to get
1220
01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,920
paid at UNLV, even though last
year they said they didn't have
1221
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,880
enough money to pay him.
I guess somebody, I guess
1222
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,440
somebody took like $2,000,000,
walked into one of the casinos,
1223
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:12,200
put it on a number and it hit
the number because he has not
1224
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,480
come up in any coaching searches
as of yet.
1225
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:20,560
UNLV is playing Boise State.
I believe this one is.
1226
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,680
It's Friday night, but this one
is Saturday.
1227
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:33,320
Efforting, efforting, efforting.
Well, it's at some point this
1228
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:35,680
week, boys.
Here to UNLV tally.
1229
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,720
Oh, I guess I'm going to go with
UNLV man.
1230
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:44,560
I haven't watched boys there a
lot this year and I'm going to
1231
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,200
trust my God damn mother.
UNLV, let's go.
1232
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,880
Yeah, I think Mullen takes care
of business.
1233
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:54,560
I'm, I'm I'm all in on the on
the UNLV for the time.
1234
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,960
Same, we are agreeing a whole
lot Tally.
1235
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,560
You were agreeing with guys who
couldn't pick worth a shit this
1236
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,640
year on everyone.
Be bad, might be.
1237
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,000
Bad.
I'm UNLV.
1238
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,960
We saved Tally up, letting him
go first on all these Curtis.
1239
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,920
What's the whole thing?
We made our kicks.
1240
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,680
I mean, he he could look back
and he knows how to, he knows he
1241
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,520
can fade as if he wants to, but.
Exactly we put them in there
1242
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,360
hours ago so you can fade us if
you want, but you know it is
1243
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:25,720
what it is.
I we get to Saturday, one of the
1244
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:30,320
fun days of college football.
High noon 12 O clock at Jerry
1245
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:35,920
World BYU fighting for the
effectively their life against
1246
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:42,560
Texas Tech who we take.
In Texas Tech, Texas Tech, man,
1247
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,000
they don't pay the money.
They're going to reap the
1248
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,920
benefits.
Texas Tech is going to take care
1249
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,200
of business.
I think BYU the I think the
1250
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,600
crumble money didn't quite work
for this game.
1251
01:13:56,520 --> 01:14:02,640
So Texas Tech.
Guns up, Texas Tech wins big.
1252
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,720
You can buy a football team and
make the playoff.
1253
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:08,440
That's the proof.
Yeah, it's the proof.
1254
01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,640
Well, take that back.
As long as you got a couple good
1255
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,400
quarterbacks, you can do it.
You got shooting quarterback.
1256
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:17,320
Florida State's tried it three
years.
1257
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:19,080
They they, they nailed it one
year.
1258
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,280
And they took Tommy Castellanos.
They fucked themselves this
1259
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,360
year.
That's what I'm saying that
1260
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:27,440
it's, you know, if if you get
the right pieces that mesh and
1261
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:31,040
you got a good quarterback in
that mix, then it can be done.
1262
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,840
It's just it's a dice roll,
especially if you don't have a
1263
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,760
surefire top ten in the country
quarterback.
1264
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,520
It's true, all right.
We got Mac Chenek.
1265
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:47,080
Mac Championship, also at 12.
Saturday, Miami of Ohio versus
1266
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:51,800
Western Michigan.
Miami of Ohio.
1267
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:54,120
Yeah, you always got a row of
Miami, baby.
1268
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:58,000
Sound like cool, just sound like
cool place, right?
1269
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,440
Miami, Ohio.
The only reason I take them is I
1270
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:05,520
know Ben Roethlisberger played
there, right?
1271
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,760
That's it.
That's the only reason I, I
1272
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,600
have, I threw this one on here
because you know, don't know,
1273
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,680
don't crap on everything, but
you got the SWAC championship
1274
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:23,760
also this weekend and it's going
to be preview A&M versus Jackson
1275
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,280
State.
By the way, if you didn't read
1276
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:32,520
today, Colorado is $27 million
in debt and Jackson State's
1277
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,000
still women.
I don't know if it was Dion
1278
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:37,000
doing a good thing.
I think Jackson State's just a
1279
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:41,360
really good FCS program, but who
you got Tally?
1280
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,320
Oh man, give me Jackson State.
Yeah.
1281
01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:49,200
I mean that that's a layup.
I feel like Jackson State's
1282
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,120
going to take this one by a
pretty good margin.
1283
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,960
Yep, I got Jackson State too.
We have not agreed.
1284
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,560
We have not disagreed on
anything yet.
1285
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,800
This is so good thing.
Either this is going to be
1286
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,600
really good or if you don't play
this parlay and we get every
1287
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,960
game right, calling out
everybody.
1288
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:16,560
All right, we get to Saturday
afternoon in Atlanta rematch
1289
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,600
Georgia, Alabama, Alabama took
the opening or the earlier
1290
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:24,240
season game.
Georgia's taking it hard to beat
1291
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,120
the team twice.
Man, Georgia.
1292
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,000
I've got Georgia as well.
Georgia as well.
1293
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,800
I think Georgia spanks them.
I don't think this is a game
1294
01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,200
because Auburn, if Auburn could
just learn how to hold on to a
1295
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:41,640
damn football, Alabama wouldn't
be in this game at all.
1296
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:48,640
And the question goes, if they
lose, should they go?
1297
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,160
They're gone, though.
Should they be gone?
1298
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:58,280
They get smoked I think.
If they get smoked it'll get
1299
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,240
interesting.
If they don't, if they keep it
1300
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:03,920
close, then I think they're in.
So them in Miami have one common
1301
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:05,760
opponent.
Oh, I know.
1302
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,240
Yeah, it don't matter it.
Don't look, look FSU is.
1303
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,360
Going to be the game that was
Anomaly.
1304
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:14,680
For every every every person
that played them.
1305
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,680
They're going to say why are we
punishing them for making it to
1306
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,360
the the the 8th SEC
Championship?
1307
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,280
Why did they not get?
Why did they continuously get
1308
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,360
ranked in the top 10 even though
lost to a shitty ass team in
1309
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,880
FSU?
Yeah, I don't know.
1310
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:34,560
Because you know what, in a
couple years when James
1311
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:39,320
Franklin's nine and one and he
has one bad game against Georgia
1312
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,800
Tech, they're going to put us at
like 26 now.
1313
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,920
Y'all can't be ranked.
Y'all can't be ranked.
1314
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,200
The only.
Thing I'll say, Curtis, is that
1315
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:51,600
regardless of whether that win
was a good win or a bad win at
1316
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,560
the start of the year, they
still did what they needed to do
1317
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:57,440
to get to the SEC Championship
game.
1318
01:17:57,440 --> 01:17:59,600
That's probably going to be
enough in most people's eyes
1319
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,520
unless they get absolutely
fucking waxed.
1320
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,760
All right, here we go.
We all think Georgia.
1321
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:11,840
All right, in one of the funnier
games this week, Virginia versus
1322
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,760
Duke.
Did y'all read the tiebreaker
1323
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,760
scenario of how Duke got in?
Yes, it was crazy.
1324
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,440
Yeah, stupid.
Stupidest shit ever.
1325
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,960
Let's go back to the coastal and
stuff.
1326
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:31,720
Man, so when we get to
tiebreakers, I mean, I mean, I,
1327
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,720
I wouldn't have a problem.
Just, you know, whoever the
1328
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:39,160
highest ranked team.
After head to heads.
1329
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,240
Yeah, after head, head to head
should be the start.
1330
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:43,600
Head to heads is always the
starting.
1331
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,960
Point.
Well, the whole thing is Duke
1332
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:47,400
couldn't be discussed in the
head to heads.
1333
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,800
You know why?
The only team Duke played in the
1334
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,400
top six of the ACC?
They got their asses handed to
1335
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,280
them.
They didn't play Georgia Tech,
1336
01:18:56,760 --> 01:19:02,160
they didn't play Miami, they
played UVA and got killed, and
1337
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,800
they didn't play SMU.
Yeah.
1338
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,640
What they got lucky is that
they're playing.
1339
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,960
SMU.
All SMU had to do was go out
1340
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,600
there and win a layup game and
they didn't do it.
1341
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,160
Algorithm we got a baby.
The calgorithm, we got them all
1342
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:19,360
right.
Who we got in this game?
1343
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:24,240
For the same reason I said
Georgia, I'm going to say Duke.
1344
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:28,320
It's hard to beat the team twice
in one year, so I got it.
1345
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,720
If I'm going to say that's my my
thought process, I got to go
1346
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:34,360
with Duke.
I'm going to go a little bit
1347
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,520
different logic on here, but the
same answer.
1348
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,800
It's Duke, because fuck them,
that's why.
1349
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:43,720
Damn.
I'm trying to get back to 500.
1350
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,360
You can't beat A-Team twice, but
when you absolutely kill
1351
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,000
somebody, like if that had been
a close game like the Georgia
1352
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,680
Alabama game, I would have went
tallies line, but they'd be
1353
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:56,640
kicked the dog shit out of them
three weeks ago.
1354
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,280
I mean they beat them down.
It wasn't a game at all.
1355
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:04,080
I hate saying it, but UVA
unfortunately is going in this
1356
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,800
game and getting the playoff.
What happens in the playoff?
1357
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,800
If you're a UVA fan and you
somehow found this channel, you
1358
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:11,840
might want to turn TV off
because it ain't going to get
1359
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:16,800
pretty on that playoff game.
Whoever they play, they can be
1360
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,920
ugly.
We got a We got a update here.
1361
01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:21,560
What?
We.
1362
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:23,680
We did not we.
Didn't do it, Robbie.
1363
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,240
We didn't do it.
So the question is who's partly
1364
01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:31,760
you're riding with because we're
different now, All right, last
1365
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:36,200
game it was pretty cool to see
this regardless if you hate
1366
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:40,200
them, and I do hate one of these
teams significantly #1 versus
1367
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:44,840
#212 and O versus 12 and O, Ohio
State versus Indiana.
1368
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,880
Ally, who you taking?
Ohio State.
1369
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,040
I'm riding with the Fighting
Kurt Signetes.
1370
01:20:55,560 --> 01:21:00,120
Fighting Kurt Signetes, he has
the unbelievable first name, but
1371
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:05,280
for Indiana, and as much as you
want to see him win and as much
1372
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:10,400
as I want to see Ohio State
lose, I I just can't see it.
1373
01:21:13,480 --> 01:21:16,160
I can't see it.
I think Ohio State's going to
1374
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:21,120
beat him.
I mean, I it's one of those
1375
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,120
interesting games because you
know, both of them have pretty
1376
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,000
much secured their spot at this
point.
1377
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:33,600
Probably both have secured a buy
potentially.
1378
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,480
No, no, no.
Is it, is it, are we doing the
1379
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:38,440
bars this year or just before?
Is it?
1380
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,720
I forgot what it was this year.
Are they still doing the
1381
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:45,920
conference champion only?
I thought.
1382
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:47,120
I thought they changed the.
Rules.
1383
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,920
I thought they changed that too,
I can't remember.
1384
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:55,120
So I thought, I thought it was
the four highest ranked get the
1385
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,520
buy.
Maybe I'm wrong, I know they
1386
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,800
changed something.
They changed something.
1387
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:02,760
Effort efforting the ever
changing College Football
1388
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:06,360
Playoff ranking rules.
Just the four overall.
1389
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:08,320
The top seeds get a buy.
Yeah.
1390
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,240
So I, I, I think regardless of
this outcome, I think both of
1391
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,600
them will get a buy.
I I forgot to look at their
1392
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,840
their rankings tonight.
They're one or two.
1393
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:23,160
I know who's 3 is Georgia 3?
Georgia 3?
1394
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,240
Aren't they Texas Tech?
Texas Tech is 4.
1395
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:29,640
So in all likelihood, Georgia
goes up, Texas Tech goes up,
1396
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,240
Indiana probably doesn't slip in
unless they get just waxed.
1397
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,840
Yeah, exactly 63, nothing.
It's, I think it's going to be
1398
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:38,400
interesting to see how that
shakes out.
1399
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:45,000
You know, I think Ohio State
probably has a little a little
1400
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:49,080
more to lose, but it could be
one of those things where Ohio
1401
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,040
State may, you know, lose this
when they get the monkey off
1402
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:53,200
their back so they can make
another.
1403
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,600
You know, they need to.
Well, either way, I don't think
1404
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,880
either of them are going past
four unless it's just ugly.
1405
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:06,760
So, yeah, I agree.
All right, anything else to wrap
1406
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:08,760
up tonight, Tally?
I'm glad you made it man.
1407
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,360
I made it.
I'm glad you did.
1408
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,000
You did.
You made it.
1409
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:20,200
Now go take your medicine.
Go stretch back out because you
1410
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:21,960
got a long drive on tomorrow,
right?
1411
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:24,160
Thursday.
Thursday.
1412
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:25,960
Thursday.
Are y'all drive?
1413
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,160
Are y'all driving the same day
to get on the ship?
1414
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:31,000
Yeah.
And you're back Monday.
1415
01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:34,640
Back.
Come on.
1416
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,080
Also five day.
Where are y'all going this time?
1417
01:23:42,440 --> 01:23:45,600
Not do we lose them?
I lost them.
1418
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,800
Where?
Cosmic the Mexico trip.
1419
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,400
Very nice, Ryan.
Anything to ask me?
1420
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Got it.
I'm I'm just seeing if any other
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recruit outage is good if we
didn't get any other crew since.
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We that would have been sick
like a 930 drop.
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Did you see the one?
Did we see the one coming late
1424
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,240
night?
We hadn't got a late night 1 yet
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01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,640
and it was like 730.
Boom, here you go.
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01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,320
Yeah, most of it like 663030 was
the latest pop so.
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01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,280
Yeah.
Yeah, All right.
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Get ready for tomorrow.
Get ready for tomorrow, going to
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be the first time listening.
Apparently there's going to be a
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01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,200
Simon Day thing.
Shout out Virginia Tech social
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01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:26,200
media staff.
That was sick.
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01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:29,760
They they've crushed it lately.
May back, May back.
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01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,880
Maybe all.
Right, that wraps up this
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01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,760
episode of the Boundary Corner
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