This week we Tell the Truth about the Hokies loss at home to the Louisville Cardinals. While the Hokies showed heart throughout, inconsistent play and ill-timed mistakes ultimately doomed the Hokies upset bid as Louisville handled Virginia Tech in the second half. We also dive further into the James Franklin flirtations and make our Big Screeners picks of the week.
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Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary
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Brian two man show again, tabby
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busy studying Shelton.
I don't know.
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I just think they just like
randomly e-mail Shelton like on
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Sunday night and say, what are
you doing on Tuesday?
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OK, could you do this?
Basically.
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I mean, basically, what's going
on?
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Have you been, brother?
Man, it's been a fun week so
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far.
It's been a fun week.
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You know, unfortunately my my
Colts took a a tough loss to the
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Steelers.
I've I've had to hear about that
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a little bit this week.
Oh yeah, you know that that
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happens when you turn the ball
over six times.
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Having a -5 ratio there is not
the way to to win a football
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game.
But I mean it it it took that
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level of catastrophe to lose by
1 touchdown.
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So I guess you can kind of chalk
that up to and we'll get them
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next week.
That's the only thing you can
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do.
And then your boys make the
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maybe the biggest play, maybe
the biggest play.
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What's going on?
Kent from Halifax, go out and
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get Sauce Gardner shrimp
secondary.
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Give up two ones now.
Yeah, and and Donny Mitchell, so
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I mean, we didn't, you know, not
for nothing, but at the same
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time, yeah, you got to spend
money to make money sometimes.
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So at this point, you know, we,
we needed some help at at that
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position.
I think that's going to be a
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big, big boost for us.
I think, you know, Mitchell had
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some I, I was actually more
shocked to lose Mitchell than I
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was the two first on this deal.
But you know what?
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I we, we've got enough depth at
wide receiver at this point, at
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least for the frontline
perspective.
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But it would be nice to see what
Mitchell could do as he
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developed more in this system.
But you know what?
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Let's try to win one this year,
yeah?
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OK, that's that's the goal, huh?
Danny Dimes on the cheap.
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You know what man?
I mean, at this point, you know,
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you, you get Danny Dimes on the
cheap.
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You've you had a pretty decent
roster rolling into this year,
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but you had so many question
marks, especially at the most
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important position.
And all of a sudden it's like,
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OK, well, we, we look pretty
good there.
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You know, let's, let's turn it
up to 11 and see what it see
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what happens.
Do you think I'll pay him
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significant money because it's a
one year deal, right?
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Yeah, at this point, I don't
know.
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I don't know.
I don't know if we, you know,
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try, you know, depending on what
happens this year, if we try to
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throw a franchise tag on him or
something, you know, try to try
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to play it out a little bit
longer and then, you know, let
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it ride and see, see, see if we
can get some consistency out of
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him.
Because what I don't want to
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happen is what happened in New
York, where you ended up, you
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know, paid a lot of money.
And yeah, you paid a lot of
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money.
And all of a sudden it's like,
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wait a second.
Not the same guy.
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You don't look like the same guy
with without Saquon back there
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so. 100 percent, 100% Well, we
we shall see halfway through the
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NFL season and you know, we are
now in the home stretch of the
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college football season while in
the infancy of college
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basketball season.
We are going to talk about the
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game last night, which I
actually watched almost 70% of
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that game.
I watched Significant and you
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did too because you were you
watched a little.
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I watched.
I watched pretty much all of it,
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yeah.
Good for you.
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I watched 70%.
I was proud of myself.
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What I missed, and we'll talk
about it later, is the big run
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because I had to leave at
halftime, put a kid to bed and
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then come back and it's like,
oh, I don't know, might as well
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finish watching it.
But oh shit, OK.
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But we are here to tell the
truth Tuesday.
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We'll, we'll tell the truth
about basketball and some other
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things later, but we do have to
start with what happened on
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Saturday afternoon in Lane
Stadium as the Louisville
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Cardinals, not to our surprise,
take care of the Hokies 2816.
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Unfortunately, and you know, we
always tell the truth, We do the
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good, the bad, the ugly, the
unexpected.
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So I got to say, Brian, to me,
what went well was for the
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longest time, it seemed like our
starts had been slow and it
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wasn't Saturday, the opening
drive was, but then the rest of
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the first quarter was really
positive for the team.
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Yeah.
I mean, you, you came out, you,
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you felt pretty good about the
way they kind of set the tone.
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You know, it was one of those
games that even as things
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started to kind of turn for us,
it never felt like we were out
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of it.
We felt like if we could just
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get just a little push, just a
little bit here, just a little
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bit there, we might be able to
get back into this thing.
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But getting a fast start is
important.
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You know, we've we've seen and I
know we're we're past the Pryor
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at this point, but this is still
a pry developed teams and we've
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seen when when prize teams have
started fast, they've had a lot
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of success.
Yeah.
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Not the fastest, not the fastest
by any means, but just saying
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what we've dealt with.
Considering the the way that
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both offense and defense have
started the games most of this
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year, yeah, it was good.
It was good to really kind of
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assert yourself early and feel
like you kind of controlled the
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way the game was going to flow,
at least in the first half.
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Especially after they literally
run 2 plays and score a
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touchdown because that happened.
My first thought was, well I
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might be able to go do something
at halftime.
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That was my first thought.
Then they flip it, get the pick,
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tie the game up and you know,
and that felt good.
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And then, you know, just say it,
say, say what happened after the
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touchdown.
We don't want to talk about it,
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man.
We don't want to talk about it.
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The block punt, the block punt
happened after the touchdown and
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get you get you another lead and
then take a lead by 9 by half
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and and it felt good.
But were you like me while
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watching it?
And maybe folks in the chat were
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like, I was just waiting for the
other shoe to drop because
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Louisville shown all year that
they're a good team and you're
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just waiting for it and waiting
for it.
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And eventually it did.
I, I was sitting back and I was
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like, all right, well, the
defense is doing what they need
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to do.
We've had a, you know, one big
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play that kind of turned the
tide a little bit.
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Are we going to be able to hold
on?
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That was basically what I was, I
was looking at, Can we hold on?
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Can we do just enough
offensively to hold on?
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I was, I was definitely
concerned that we hadn't shown a
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lot of consistency with being
able to move the football down
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the field even when we were
getting some points on the
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board.
So I was, I was definitely
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concerned that there was going
to be.
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Yeah, I was.
I was hoping that a second-half
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adjustment with, you know,
correct some of the things
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offensively that we were
struggling with and
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unfortunately, it just got worse
from there.
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Yeah, it was basically a we, we
it was, it was the second-half
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just bad, bad like you know that
there was the bad, there was the
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over the top.
I I don't.
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Know.
You know what?
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I I can sense him, yeah.
Sense him, but the the whole
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thing was with the with the the
bad was with the offense.
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It just nothing ever happened.
And then you had the one chance
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and the break happens.
And that was just, Oh yeah, it
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was just like.
I mean, that's a touchdown.
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You still bring that in, man.
Oh my God, Eight to 10 yards of
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separation on it, stoink right
off top of the helmet, and then
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it goes.
And then you know what else went
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bad?
Well, me and you, me and you
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talked about it, message back
and forth and, and other people
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on there too, Tally Shelton and
a couple other folks.
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And literally this game was
effectively like 4 plays, 4
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plays.
And people can sit up here and
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say, no, that's not the way
football works.
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When you give up a 60 yard
touchdown, you have a 60 plus
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yard punt return that put them
inside the five and then 220
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plus touchdowns like explosive
plays were the game.
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They did not consistently Dr.
the field.
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Soup to Nuts 1012 Play Drive.
Yeah, they they didn't do a
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whole lot outside of their
explosives.
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They really were leaning on the
big plays, the the turning point
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plays.
And if you take away those, I
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mean, we're going to talk about
in a second because I talked
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about it this morning on
offense, we were 3.8 yards per
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play.
On the flip side of that, if you
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take away those explosives,
Louisville was about the same.
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They weren't much better than
that.
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So it's one of those things
where as bad as our offense were
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was the difference is is that
they made the plays when they
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were there and we didn't.
That was it.
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They made the big ones, you
know, we missed the big one.
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Now you still do the math.
That doesn't mean we win the
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game, but at least it take
changes momentum.
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Well, it changes momentum and it
puts you in a position where if
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you make that play, the, the
calculus of how you are running
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your offense and what you need
to do to get the lead at the end
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of the game shifts.
So the, the, the way that your
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scheme and the way that you're
calling, the way that you're
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operating is going to be a
little bit different.
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And it gives you the ability to
be a little more balanced in
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your attack and not feel like
you got to get it all in a
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handful of plays like we had to
do at the end there.
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Yeah, but the other, the bad
thing, you mentioned yards per
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play, but passing, the passing
offense was just not good at
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all.
I mean.
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No bad.
You know, we talked about it.
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I mean, the yardage is bad
enough. 76 yards total.
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You look at the leading receiver
for the Virginia Tech Hokies.
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One reception, 17 yards by Aidan
Green.
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Yikes.
Under under 50% pass completion
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and it's like and, and, and, and
I think the majority of that is
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comes in the second-half when
you're when they get down and
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they you have to pass.
You know, the, the one thing I,
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I will say, I don't know if you
want to put this bad whatever,
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at least the last three to four
games, we know our identity and
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we've stuck to it and we've
stuck to it and we've kept
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ourselves in games.
Maybe give Philip Montgomery a
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little credit on that.
But I mean, you're, you're,
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you're not going to win a lot of
games in this area of college
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football throwing the ball like
that.
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Well, I think the problem is
that we've seen that we go as
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Kyron goes and Kyron goes as the
opponent changes, as the wind
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blows it.
It's it's really, you know, the,
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the inconsistency of the play I
think has been something that
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it's hard to really put a finger
on.
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I mean, we know that he is
definitely more of a run first
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quarterback.
I mean, before, before we get
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anywhere else, but he's had
games where his passing has not
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hurt us and then he's had a lot
of games where it has hurt us.
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And this was one of those games
where his passing struggles, his
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inconsistencies, his struggles
with footwork absolutely burned
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us to a point where we just
couldn't muster enough offense
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to help out how well our defense
played.
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Honestly, I mean outside of that
really the one big play to start
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things off there and it wasn't
a, you know, I don't really have
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a whole lot of complaints about
their effort for.
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Four quarters.
No, the, the defensive game plan
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was the right game plan.
And I mean the, the, the, and
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it's like I said after the first
touchdown, it was like, this is
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going to be bad, bad.
But then the adjustments were
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made and it took them a while to
readjust to it.
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And then, well, we can't go full
service Academy, Jim.
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We don't have the players to do
that.
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You know, we have a coach that
could teach it, but I don't
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think we can fully do that.
And you know, chop blocks suck.
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So.
But yeah, as far as Kyron go,
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yeah, you're 100% right.
And it's always never about
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yards, but more about
efficiency, because his biggest
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game this year outside of the
Wofford game was.
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Ken, is that a typo or is that a
type of party I should go to?
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Yeah, I'm about to say I went to
a wedding party in Halifax and
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lived there many years of my
life.
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But but it's the truth.
The team, his passing goes as we
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go.
So yeah, let's move on to what
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we weren't prepared for.
And somebody threw it up on
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there.
I was not prepared to see Jeff
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Overton at all this season and
it was good seeing him.
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He got a few carries.
I will say one thing that it's
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very noticeable.
No disrespect to Hawkins or
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Bully that one run for four in
like the explosive that when he
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got into that inside zone, that
looked different.
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And I know you responded and you
were like, yeah, but Overton
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looked different.
No disrespect to those guys, but
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he looked different with that
one cut upfield and it was just
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like he got tackled 4 yards up
field.
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But it was just like how quick
he hit the hole was different.
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Yeah, you're seeing that one cut
explosiveness that you like to
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see in this type of offense.
And I mean, I think Hawkins has
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a little bit of that, but he
doesn't quite have that extra
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gear that I think we saw with
Overton just being able to
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explode through the hole there.
Yeah, it's going to be exciting
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to see how much he's going to
get into the game as, as we kind
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of move through the rest of the
season, whether that's, you
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know, him wanting to get out
there and and contribute and,
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you know, for all intents and
purposes, probably put some tape
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out there for folks depending
on, you know, what decisions he
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makes at the end of this season.
It's going to be interesting.
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It is going to be interesting as
far as what can you do better
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moving forward.
I mean, I think we're at the
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point now where we are where we
are.
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The only thing I ask is if the
defense, the next three games
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can play to the level they
played with.
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We have a puncher's chance to
beat the next three teams.
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We really do.
Yeah.
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But we also if they play
slightly below, it could be
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bloodbath.
And when I say that, get
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whatever bottle, beer, wine,
whatever you like, keep it near
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because you're probably going to
need it.
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I mean, if we're.
If we're looking at the, you
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know, prognosticating out
another week, it could be the
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most inconsistent playing match
up of the year when we, when we
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match up with the, with the
Seminoles, man, because that's,
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that's another team that goes
the way their quarterback goes
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and the quarterback also goes
the way of the wind.
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So it's, it's, it's certainly
something that's going to be
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interesting to watch in a, in a,
in a couple weeks here.
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You know what, it's going to be
a, a really interesting thing to
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watch, help teams defend US
going forward.
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Because I mean, when you look at
this game, Louisville, it looked
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like their game plan was we're
going to make Kyron beat us,
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whether it's with his legs or
with his arm, we're going to
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make Kyron beat us.
And Kyron had one of those games
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where it was an inconsistent
game for him.
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And it showed in the way the
offensive numbers stacked up.
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They were kind of selling out to
stop the run with the running
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back.
They they, they, they were like,
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we're not going to let the
running backs beat us.
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If Kyron beats us, Kyron beats
us.
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And he, you know, Kyron did went
out there and ran the ball
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pretty well overall, But we were
so inconsistent passing the ball
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and nobody else was getting
super involved in the running
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game because of their scheme.
And now all of a sudden, you
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know, Kyron's got to do a little
bit more than he probably wants
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to with his arm and, and was
just not having a good day.
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Just for my eyeballs, I don't
think I think I saw the safeties
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in the picture every snap.
I don't think they ever played
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back in any situation.
And that that says a lot because
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it sounds like basically data
chose to play what safety spy
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man across the board like, OK,
beat us.
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And you're not going to beat us.
And they're a well coached team.
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Clearly they're Jeff Bronson are
running for some Tier one jobs.
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Louisville has really had
Kyron's number 2 if we think
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about it.
Oh God, 34 going back.
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To even going back to 23, man,
when Kyron was having a, you
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know, one of his better years,
obviously, Yeah, that was his
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weakest outing of the entire
season.
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And, you know, this outing this
past week was probably at least
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in his, you know, bottom two to
three, if not his worst outing.
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Oh.
Man as a quarterback.
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So, oh, you want to know that
game worse than this game?
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12 for 2169 yards, one pick, 6
yards rushing.
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Yeah, the point has been made in
stamp.
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So.
Yeah.
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So anything else to put a bow on
this one, Brian?
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Because I mean, it wasn't
listen, I'll say this.
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It was a fun game to watch from
our perspective, at least from
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our perspective it.
It was it was fun and
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frustrating so, well, they're.
Always frustrating.
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But I'll, but I'll caveat that
because I think in my mind like,
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so I, I'm like a y'all know at
this point that I'm cautiously
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optimistic person that that's,
that's my MO cautiously
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optimistic.
When you go in and you play
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pretty well for the first half,
you get, you get me invested
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just enough where you can tear
my heart out again every time I
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can, you know, if, if I go in
there and I'm like, all right,
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well, we're losing, but it is
what it is all good.
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But they wrote me back in just
enough, especially with the way
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the defense was playing overall.
And then, you know, the wheels
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fall off in the third quarter
and next thing you know, we're,
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you know, we're taking that L
pretty hard.
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Yeah.
So that that was frustrating for
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me.
But at the same time, there was
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a lot of exciting plays that
happened within the game.
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Oh, yeah.
And it was an interesting chess
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match to watch those defensive
coordinators dial stuff up to
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keep those offenses in check.
Yeah, 100%.
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So there it is.
Pokey's fall to three and six on
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the season, but met my
expectations, so yeah.
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And put up what Steven just put
up there.
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Which one?
This one.
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Last one and they're still fun.
They have not put to the credit
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of the coaching staff give a lot
of credit to Montgomery on that,
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especially after like you said,
after ODU.
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And then I think Kyle, I can't
remember if he said it on here,
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if he just texted it to me or
you or to us.
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If my are we at 5:00 and 4:00 or
6:00 and 3:00 if Phillip?
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Montgomery is the coach.
Maybe couldn't be worse.
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I mean, I think you, you know,
you probably, you probably
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scraped by South Carolina if
Phillip Montgomery is the coach
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at the gate.
Vanderbilt's the interesting one
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because a 10 point league, who
knows we that's it's the old
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what if scenario.
So we'll just let it stay there,
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Brian.
If not, we're here 3 hours
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tonight going crazy.
All right, let's flip it.
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Let's talk about the basketball
game last night.
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The season has begun and
although we don't do basketball
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all the time, we watch the
games.
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If anyone's ever interested in
hosting a basketball podcast,
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reach out to us.
We will more if you if you show
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the interest has some
credibility.
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You might have yourself a
podcast show throughout three
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corner.
But it was fun watching that
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game last night Brian just in
general to see the new pieces to
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see Hansberry obviously Neo and
some of the other guys in there.
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He is texting me all about it
this morning.
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But it it, it felt different.
Even though at halftime it
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seemed like, Oh my God, because
that been the story of to me,
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the last like 3 and four years
of hokey tip off games.
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It's like, Oh my God, are we
really going to lose to this
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team?
And they pull away near the end
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and it'd be OK.
But last night even with that,
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it was me and he were chatting.
Charleston Southern was shooting
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60% from three.
And it wasn't bad defense.
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They were just making everything
where it was like, hey, I'm you
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know what?
They're hitting some
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unbelievable contested shots.
I'd like seeing a little bit
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better perimeter D, but it's not
atrocious like we've seen in the
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past.
And then I'm unfortunately
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having to put a kid to bed at
halftime and I'll walk back and
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it's like 19 point lead, like 3
minutes.
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Yeah.
The, the points are coming fast
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and furious.
You know, defense stepped up.
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They, they locked him down to
start the second-half.
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And you know, some of those 3
pointers that that we were
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missing in the first half
started to drop as well.
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I mean, when you go, I think, I
think we finished the first half
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something like 16 or 17% from
three and then finished 32% for
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the night.
So I mean, there was a big shift
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in the second-half and obviously
they came back down to earth on
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the other side in the
second-half as well, finishing
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the night like 35 1/2 or
something like that.
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They came with, they came down
to the more average and I knew I
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texted you and said, you know,
if they were just shooting
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average from three, this would
be a 13 point game.
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Oh, it was literally the threes
that we're keeping the minute.
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I mean, you know, when when you
looked at at the the field goal
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percentage, we had the
advantage.
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But you know, they were hitting
almost all their threes.
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So there you go.
Should have told Phil just come
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on to 9.
He could have gave us full recap
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but tell me impressions in the
first time, live on the court
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and everything.
What was your impression to him,
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just in general?
It's so cool seeing Virginia
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Tech with the big guard.
I'm just, I'm not, I'm not used
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to it having having a guy that
can facilitate, get his own
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shot, the effective shooter.
It's it, it's going to be
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interesting watching how he
develops and how he starts being
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a little bit more probably
aggressive offensively with
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getting his own shot and, and,
and things like that.
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But I mean, in, in terms of
facilitating the offense,
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running the offense, I mean, it
was, it was Chris, man, I was, I
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was really excited to see him
out there.
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Yeah, the, the, the one thing I
say, and I've, I've mentioned
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this, I know I mentioned it to
Phil today in a text, was him a
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somebody mentioned it and it was
true.
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He was looking to distribute
last night.
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Yeah.
And he got 8 assists with eight
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points.
He did not have the best of
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shooting games, but they were
just a oh, excuse me, I missed
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an assist there, man assist.
But there were two plays that
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vividly remember watching.
The first was pretty early when
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he sort of just decided he was
going to take the ball to the
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rack and there was no one that
was going to stop him.
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And that when he did that, he
made that layup.
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It was like we always have
talked about it.
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Tally always has talked about
it.
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Even Sheldon has always talked
about we never had that guy to
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just you know what, they're on a
10 nothing run or they're on a 5
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nothing run.
They cut it to one.
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We need a bucket.
Go make a bucket.
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That little move where he, it
was a layup and then
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second-half, he didn't need to
do this.
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00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,520
We're up like 26.
He makes a move in and freaking
444
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,600
hits a step back, fade away and
you just look at it and it was
445
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,160
just like that guy had
absolutely no shot to, to stop
446
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:32,720
his, to stop that shot having
that's exciting with him.
447
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:40,720
Now what I'll say is Toby Lawall
and Hansberry, man, it feels
448
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,920
good having guys get 2 guys get
double digit.
449
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,280
Double digit rebounds, Hansberry
with 19, Lawal with 20.
450
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,240
You know, you look at the first
half, you might want Toby to be
451
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,000
a little more efficient with his
shot selection.
452
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:05,000
But like I've got you know, we
we finally have a you got a
453
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,200
dynamic perimeter player, you
got a dynamic front court
454
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,240
player.
I mean, players now, I think I
455
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,480
feel like we're we're finally a
roster that feels complete,
456
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,040
complete front to front to
bottom, Yeah.
457
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,800
Yeah, and and then and then
bench help too.
458
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,080
I mean, well, first of all, the
Toby the wall alley oop early in
459
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,320
the game, Good Lord, I think, I
don't know who threw that
460
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,760
assist, but I felt like it was
about 3 feet back here, a little
461
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,000
bit too far back, but Toby and
his bunnies just up and got it.
462
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,640
But the other part in in in kind
of knowing the players coming
463
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:48,600
off the bench, you know, with a
big guy like Gerdek coming off
464
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,040
the bench and Shoot coming off
the bench where he should be
465
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,920
coming off the bench and Ben
Hammond knowing that you have
466
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,320
those type of players that can
come off the bench.
467
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,600
A nice eight man rotation.
I know a couple other guys got
468
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,240
playing time, but in in my
opinion, the five starters with
469
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,240
Gerdek, Hammond and Shoot are
going to be the core 8.
470
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,720
If somebody else develops and
can get you 10 off the bench for
471
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,560
defense, rebound, whatever,
wonderful.
472
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,080
But I think just having known
guys and you know what they can
473
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,160
do off a bench, it's just so
nice to have because when Ben
474
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,080
Hammond come off the bench and
did what he did, drop, what do
475
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,200
you have like 7-8 points, 9
points last night.
476
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,400
That's that's so refreshing.
And I know it's Charleston
477
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,480
Southern, everybody.
And I know I'm trying not to get
478
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,920
my hopes up, but it's like in
the past, it's not been that
479
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,160
way.
Yep, it's not been that.
480
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,720
Way it it, it hasn't been where
you can go to 3 or 4 deep off
481
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,560
the bench and feel really good
about it.
482
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,240
And I feel like they've got 4
bench players that they feel
483
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,000
pretty good about.
And then on top of that, you've
484
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,760
raised the baseline of your
starting five as well.
485
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,080
Yeah.
I mean that that that's big
486
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,040
time, man.
I mean, you got guys that were
487
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,240
playing super meaningful minutes
last year and you know, they're,
488
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,360
you know, a bench piece and it's
still a solid bench piece, but
489
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,360
you know, you, you've raised
the, the floor and the ceiling
490
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,520
of what this basketball team can
be. 100% and again, it's a
491
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,600
pretty big temple.
Guys coming off the bench are
492
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,880
pretty young guys.
Oh, so hold on, there's a name
493
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,280
here.
Feels just throughout Dorn.
494
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,720
Antonio Dorn.
Did he didn't play last night?
495
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,480
He did not.
All right, to Phil text me and
496
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:57,120
educate me, Phil on this kid.
But the I love again, I text to
497
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,240
Phil occasionally about stuff
and the next few games are going
498
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:06,320
to tell a lot about the team.
I mean because you know you've
499
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,040
got Saturday.
It's going to be Providence.
500
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,360
Providence are what they are.
You know it it seems like
501
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,920
forever.
It's Providence is always put
502
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,040
good teams out there in the Big
East and then going and looking
503
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,000
down after that.
Saint Joe's.
504
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,000
Saint Joe's I know have been
sort of on a roller coaster ride
505
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,080
feels like the last 15 years.
OK.
506
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,640
He's a German and he's
suspended.
507
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,880
Yeah.
What else is new?
508
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,480
It's always somebody on the
basketball team that's getting
509
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,080
something's happening and
screwing things up.
510
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,440
You know, gambling, just leaving
school just for the hell of it.
511
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,680
But but, but really, so
Providence, Saint Joe's and then
512
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:56,480
you get to Charlotte Bryant.
But Atlantis is going to be big.
513
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,880
I think regardless what the
record is, I think this team is
514
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,960
going to be tested enough for
Mike Young to know the exact
515
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,560
rotations, who he can trust, who
we can't trust, etcetera,
516
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,400
etcetera before we get into
December.
517
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400
That's just the feel of it
because we're going to be
518
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:21,520
playing roughly 454 to five
teams that are going to be good.
519
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,400
And I think that's also been an
issue, even though we've gotten
520
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:31,160
some wins over the last few
years leading up to ACC play.
521
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,320
It's like they're games where
he's you've got to try it and it
522
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,040
looks like it looks like this
kind of worked.
523
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,000
And then we get an AC should be
like, oh God, this this fuck
524
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,440
terrible.
What are we supposed to do here?
525
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,920
Well, I think the big the big
thing too is that one thing we
526
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,840
don't have to worry about this
year that we've had to worry
527
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:53,040
about really the last 3-4 years.
I mean, some of that's not our
528
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,520
not out, you know, outside of
our control with all the shit
529
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,360
that's happened with our point
guard position.
530
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:05,560
But we've got a point guard that
matches up with any guard in the
531
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,400
ACC.
So when you get into that type
532
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,159
of play, you at least know, you
know, you're not rolling out
533
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:17,000
this undersized 6 foot nothing
point guard with the with the
534
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,600
smaller wingspan that's going to
struggle against those longer
535
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,920
guards in the ACC.
You're not going to have that
536
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,840
this year.
And a big that can shoot.
537
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,080
Yeah, A.
Couple bigs that can shoot.
538
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:32,600
So it's it's we'll see if I mean
it.
539
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,199
I don't have, by the way, the
game's on Peacock Saturday,
540
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:40,360
everybody not at ESPN.
So if you well, I can't, there's
541
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,760
some good programming on
Peacock.
542
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,199
I don't buy it because I got
everything else under the sun.
543
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,400
So maybe listen to the radio
version.
544
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,679
Subscribe to the Cock Curtis.
Oh man, I got so many damn
545
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,400
streaming subscriptions.
It's not funny.
546
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,920
And one's not YouTube.
I'm not missing anything on
547
00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:05,200
ESPN, so for those who do, that
was a shit show this weekend.
548
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,200
Yeah, man, they they found a way
to piss off.
549
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,840
So many people.
So many people and, and I mean,
550
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,120
you know, you can, you can point
fingers all you want to I think
551
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,880
you know, both of them have a
role in it here.
552
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,840
Oh fuck yeah.
Oh, absolutely, absolutely.
553
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,920
Both of them have a significant
role in it and it's just the way
554
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,320
of the world.
It's just I this is the first
555
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,800
time we ever saw it affect
something.
556
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,000
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I mean, there's no, there's no
557
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,240
good guys in this shit.
They're all assholes.
558
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,960
They're all, they're all just,
you know, they want to get
559
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,360
theirs and they don't give a
shit about the customers on
560
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,840
either side of the coin there.
No, they don't do it at all.
561
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,440
So, yeah, all righty.
So there's that.
562
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,040
Sometimes we can roll right
through when things aren't not
563
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,440
interesting per SE.
But so, Brian.
564
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960
I think I know what you're going
to ask me next.
565
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:11,720
I've got a good idea.
Well, the the question is, is do
566
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:16,800
we do you think we have our next
head football coach?
567
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,080
I think we have our next head
football coach if that coach
568
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,920
wants to sign on the dotted
line.
569
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:30,960
I think we have done all that we
can do from a offer standpoint
570
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:39,000
to make this a job that that
coach could and should take.
571
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,760
The question is, does that coach
and his agent think that there
572
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:52,440
are better opportunities
available for them elsewhere as
573
00:36:52,640 --> 00:37:00,680
the coaching carousel rages on?
Well, and, and everybody had to
574
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,560
be thinking about it because
this thing started floating out
575
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,440
there last week in and over the
weekend.
576
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,920
And then Auburn opens up Sunday.
I don't think Auburn wants it.
577
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,960
I don't think LSU wants it.
I don't think Florida wants.
578
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,080
I think Arkansas does, but I
don't think he's going to go to
579
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,240
Arkansas, so.
And then you got whatever the
580
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:26,000
fuck might or might not be going
on at Florida State.
581
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,960
OK, we've had the Florida State
discussion and I'm going to say
582
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,800
it aloud.
I may have said it in the past.
583
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,280
If Florida State fires Mike
Norvell and gives Franklin the
584
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,200
amount of money we think they'd
have to give him to land there,
585
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,240
they're going to have a few
years of their NIL is going to
586
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:50,200
be about half assed.
Maryland's not open Phil.
587
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,600
It was a scam from somebody and
I don't think he goes to
588
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,120
Maryland.
I wouldn't go to Maryland.
589
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,360
I wouldn't go to Maryland.
The only thing good about
590
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,640
Maryland is that the proximity
to two of the nearest target, or
591
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,880
so I've been told.
Well, the other thing about
592
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,040
Maryland is so you're going back
into the Big 10 and now you're
593
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,080
like the 13th best team, not the
4th.
594
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,080
And their budget ain't there,
their facilities ain't there.
595
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:18,680
You can say what you want to say
about it.
596
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:24,880
I only he goes to Maryland.
I think you soon, maybe.
597
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,760
I mean hold on, this is where
this is fun.
598
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,120
This is why I like talking right
now.
599
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,520
Yeah, I don't.
I don't think Maryland matters
600
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,040
regardless, but it certainly
doesn't matter right now because
601
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,640
it's not an available job and I
don't think they are savvy
602
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:51,640
enough to start floating stuff
out there with a potential hire
603
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,960
until they've at least
established what it's going to
604
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,600
cost them to get out of where
they're at and what what funds
605
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,240
they would have to package
together after the fact.
606
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,800
There you go, Carolyn's broke
and they would owe lastly Justin
607
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:16,920
right at 13.5 million for about.
So yeah, the coach in waiting
608
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,320
and then he leaves and then they
fire fridge and fridges, the
609
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:25,400
mentor and everything.
But you know, obviously
610
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,440
everybody's reading reports,
everybody's seeing things about
611
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,040
what's going on.
And the whole question is, it
612
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:37,200
seems like a, you know, we all
question the committee like is
613
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,840
this the right way to go?
I think they've hit it pretty
614
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:44,280
spot on because I also think
floating like this, like
615
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,920
everything that's floating out
there.
616
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,040
Any if, if he leaves us at the
fucking altar, which is
617
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,800
possible, I, you know, I'm a
pretty optimistic person, but
618
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,640
it's very possible he leaves us
at the altar.
619
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Well, then you're going to
basically have your choice of
620
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:03,000
anybody else.
But you're not.
621
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,760
You're not in any worse position
than you were earlier and you
622
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:13,440
took your best shot at arguably
the best reasonable candidate
623
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,960
for that position.
And I say reasonable.
624
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,400
I think there are potentially
better candidates out there that
625
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,720
you know, you if you throw
enough money at are, you know,
626
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:27,880
would be nice, but I don't think
they had a chance of coming to
627
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,240
Virginia Tech.
So you you went with the most
628
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:34,480
logical and best reasonable
candidate and you did everything
629
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,640
that you could to offer him the
job as the next head coach of
630
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,160
Virginia Tech.
If that's not what he wants to
631
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,760
do, then it is what it is.
But I don't think it would be
632
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:56,120
for lack of trying and
packaging, at least from a
633
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,960
financial standpoint, what was
needed to go there.
634
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:04,120
Now, if we want to talk, is he
shying away because of some
635
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,120
other structural components of
Virginia Tech?
636
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,680
That's obviously a different
conversation and something we
637
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,680
can address, but I think as as
constructed currently, I think
638
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,600
that the committee has done
about as good as they could do
639
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:18,880
given the hand that they were
dealt.
640
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,640
Yeah, given the hand they were
dealt, but laying it on the
641
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:27,080
table like they've effectively
what people are saying, reports
642
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,560
are saying has been laid out to
him.
643
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,200
First of all, I don't think
anywhere else he'd have as much
644
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,960
control because I think they're
giving him the keys and saying
645
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,280
do whatever you want to do with
it because it's yours.
646
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,000
Hire whoever you want to hire,
GM, whatever, it's yours.
647
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,080
I don't think he gets that
anywhere else.
648
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:57,080
Yeah, I honestly don't.
But as far as it goes, can we do
649
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,680
anything else?
Well, who's out there?
650
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:04,600
Does he want to take it off?
I'm going to put this up here
651
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,720
real quick.
I don't necessarily think it's
652
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,760
an ego shop.
Jim, First of all, he's got his
653
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,720
recruiting footprint and that
does matter.
654
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:21,240
It really does matter.
The second thing is we're a
655
00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,840
passionate fan base.
We have some crazies.
656
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,080
I think somewhere like Florida,
LSU hired, and the first thing
657
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,040
about 90% of their fan base
would say is why the fuck do we
658
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,080
hire a damn Big 10 retread?
That's the first thing they'd
659
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,400
say.
That's out the gate.
660
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,920
That's that's not that's before
you even talk about the big game
661
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:48,160
and, or, or and even even beyond
that, the expectations that come
662
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:53,040
attached with even second tier
SEC jobs.
663
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,720
What would that to me?
It's not.
664
00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:58,840
Second, the Arkansas's 1/3 tier
SEC job.
665
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,840
I'm, I'm talking about, I'm
talking about LSU and Auburn.
666
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,000
LSU is first tier.
LSU has a ton of money,
667
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,960
passionate fan base, great
recruiting territory.
668
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,200
Them in Florida are Tier 1.
Auburn's a Tier 2.
669
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,080
That's my opinion.
Yeah, I mean, I can agree with
670
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,280
that.
LSU is 1 though.
671
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,840
But also, I don't think LSU,
first of all, y'all thought we
672
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,880
had a shit show in Blacksburg
with everything going on.
673
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,440
Please tell me you want to make
yourself feel good about
674
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,120
Virginia Tech's athletic
department.
675
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:39,000
Go read what's going on down at
LSU because good Lord almighty,
676
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,680
I read and listened like, yeah,
this is good.
677
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:48,920
The other thing is, and Brian, I
want to discuss this.
678
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,880
It's, I think it's second hand,
but it's rumors potentially the
679
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,480
reason he got fired from Penn
State is Penn State's AD
680
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,400
meddling in what players he felt
they should go after.
681
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:07,120
And there was a story report
saying, hey, James, we should be
682
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:11,320
going after these players.
I hate Whip Babcock, but I don't
683
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,280
think Whip Babcock would ever
have the balls to do that to any
684
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,000
of his head coaches that he's
had over all few years.
685
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:18,640
So.
Yeah.
686
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:21,920
I agree.
So well, let's talk.
687
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,600
We got we got a little time
because you know, again, the
688
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,240
game is what we thought it was
going to be.
689
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:30,280
Nothing crazy.
If you have to say right now,
690
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:40,240
let's go through the big jobs,
who do you think is going to
691
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:43,040
take?
Who do you landing on with like
692
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:48,120
Florida right now?
Like if you had to say, that's
693
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:56,280
going to be Florida's guy.
Man, I don't know that's, that's
694
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:03,080
really that's really tough
because I mean, it's one of
695
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,680
those jobs that like it's, it's
tier one.
696
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,360
There's a lot, a lot of benefits
there, but it's such a difficult
697
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:16,480
place to I think win
consistently because of the
698
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,640
competition for recruits within
the footprint, the expectations
699
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:25,920
that the program has.
I don't know man, I don't know
700
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,360
what what are you leaning for so
far?
701
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,240
I've said this a couple times,
if Lane Clifton wants it, it's
702
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:39,200
his, but the.
Reasons.
703
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,000
I just said I don't know if Lane
Kiffin wants it.
704
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,640
Well, that's the whole thing.
That discussion here in this
705
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,840
week is almost is always not
been considered a top tier job.
706
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:55,000
And I also think if Lane stays
there and if he keeps doing what
707
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,440
he's doing, that fan base, he's
got job security for four to six
708
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:05,240
years, he'd have to really start
stinking up the joint to
709
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,320
effectively get fired.
Where in Florida he could go
710
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,120
down there and pull close to
what Dan Mullen did and be out
711
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:16,480
in a heartbeat.
So I'm kind of off the lane
712
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:21,600
train to Florida and it's going
to this might shock you.
713
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:28,280
I really think, really think
it's going to be goalish from
714
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,480
USF, OK.
I think he fits it.
715
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,480
I think especially being being a
defense or offensive coordinator
716
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,440
for Tennessee, I think that's
probably where they're going.
717
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,760
He's been at South Florida a few
years now, probably understands
718
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,320
the culture of the high schools
down there, especially South
719
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,400
Florida being a smaller floor
school.
720
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,640
You know you're going to be
recruiting the state even
721
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,760
heavier than a Florida does
because you're trying to find
722
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,840
all the three stars and all the
diamonds in the rough.
723
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:02,200
So I think it's going to be
Alice Goldish there.
724
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,560
I can definitely see that.
I can see that playing out
725
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,840
exactly like you said there.
Yeah, Makes a lot of sense from
726
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,680
a footprint standpoint, you
know, having history down there.
727
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:20,880
But it's, yeah, I, I think it's
still probably going to come
728
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,400
down to whether Lane wants it or
not.
729
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,120
It is, it is.
And he's got to make that
730
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,720
decision.
And and if Ole Miss opens up,
731
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:33,600
then there's there's obviously
residuals, but that's going to
732
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,360
be in any case.
Yeah, let me flip this one to
733
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:42,600
you.
I'll try to get you to answer of
734
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,560
of the of the of the next three.
I'm going to give you because
735
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,280
these are to me Florida and LSU.
You can replace one too of the
736
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,080
next three tier, Penn State, LSU
and Auburn.
737
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:59,160
Who's more screwed?
As far as I mean, Penn State,
738
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,200
LSU or Auburn?
Who's more screwed?
739
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,840
It might be Auburn.
OK.
740
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,680
It might, it might be Auburn
only because I think maybe
741
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:21,200
pecking order wise, they're
going to probably be be third
742
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,120
there.
At the same time you you pointed
743
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,880
out LSU structurally is a
dumpster fire.
744
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,960
You've got Penn State having
buyer's remorse or seller's
745
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:37,480
remorse on the James Franklin
deal.
746
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:42,160
So you know, none of those
situations are easy.
747
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,840
All of them come with your
expectations.
748
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:52,520
I think at least when you look
at the expectations for LSU,
749
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,320
they'll probably have an easier
job backing that up with with
750
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,000
with output.
Whereas I think when you look at
751
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,200
some of the the struggles that
an Auburn or a Penn State has,
752
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,600
you know, they're they're you're
going to have the same level of
753
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,600
expectations, but you're going
to be working with slightly,
754
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,640
with one arm behind your back
relative to the best of the
755
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,560
competition in in your
conference.
756
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,440
So, you know, you're going to
have to deal with that and still
757
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,000
be expected to win 10 games
every year.
758
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,040
Yeah.
See, I think Penn State's more
759
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,440
because people are going to
everything that happens at Penn
760
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:38,360
State, it's going to be where
they compared to James, Did they
761
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,440
do this?
Did they do this?
762
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,200
I know Phil just put in there
Brent Key going there.
763
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,280
I mean, he's a good coach.
The only thing I would question
764
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,640
with him is that man, he never
coached above Western Carolina
765
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,160
day in his life and it is again
a different beast.
766
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:02,640
Oh, but what Jim put in there,
Heartline, that's interesting.
767
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:09,520
What first year OC gets a job?
I mean, what do you think about
768
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:16,560
that?
You know what that would
769
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,120
probably be for if I'm, if I'm
Penn State, that might be a best
770
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,360
case scenario considering what
what hand I've kind of put
771
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:32,400
myself in to this point.
You know, I think you know it
772
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,800
it's you're getting a little
dicey because you're bringing in
773
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:41,400
a first time head coach, but I
think the connections that he
774
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,640
has, he could put a a staff
around him that would that would
775
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,720
work out pretty good.
Phil, you want us to hire a guy
776
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:52,400
who's been an OC for one year to
Ohio State and he's never
777
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:57,760
coached anywhere but Ohio State?
Hard pass Heart pass.
778
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,480
He's not going to Wisconsin
either.
779
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,720
Maybe Jim, if you're right, you
can come on here and stretch
780
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:08,200
stuff in a month or so here.
I, I get, I get people have
781
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:13,200
strong feelings about Franklin,
but at the same time, when you
782
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,880
look at who is available and you
look at who is realistic for
783
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:26,200
Virginia Tech, it's hard to find
a more capable candidate than
784
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:28,920
James Franklin.
Again, you might, you might
785
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,480
think he's slimy, you might
think he does that, but I'm OK
786
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,360
if we go out and get a
headhunter for two to four years
787
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,440
and he's off to the next stop
because I just want to win.
788
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,040
Because once you start winning,
it gets it's it's easier to
789
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,800
keep.
A lot easier, a lot easier.
790
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,360
Can I throw a name for you?
Nobody's talked about it.
791
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,960
LSU, at least I haven't seen
much.
792
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,360
And it wouldn't be shocking
because if you if you see him
793
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,400
coaching, than he at he's a
young guy.
794
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,960
Kenny Dillingham from Arizona
State tells you.
795
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:02,760
I think he's psycho enough and
crazy enough.
796
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,360
He could probably handle that
down there.
797
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,800
Yeah.
That wouldn't shock me.
798
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:15,800
So it it's such a funny cycle
because everybody else's G
799
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:26,720
Fives, Summerall, Silverfield
and and a lot of these guys are
800
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:35,320
basically, you know, are
basically getting 3 to $4
801
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,920
million pay raises because they
just mentioned their name.
802
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,840
Like, hey, just float my name
out there.
803
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:49,320
Let's school here.
So I think it's going to be like
804
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,880
in a month, it's going to be
really interesting to see where
805
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:01,360
everything lands because I, I
think UCLA and Stanford, they're
806
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,360
going to stand pat.
UCLA is so screwed up
807
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,160
financially, they can't afford a
big payday.
808
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,360
I think Oklahoma State, I've
told you it was one of our pigs
809
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,440
last week.
That North Texas head coach is
810
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,080
going to take that kid up to
Oklahoma State.
811
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,320
Sure, Phil, you.
Know what, Phil?
812
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,000
That sounds reasonable.
I would believe the first part
813
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:28,400
of that more than the second
part.
814
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:34,640
I wouldn't read true.
Let let me ask this to to you
815
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,080
and then to everybody else.
Those who are out here in the
816
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:42,600
chat gem Phil Few above y'all is
Jeff Brown going to leave
817
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:47,520
Louisville because if he if he
if he wins a few more games.
818
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:57,560
Who?
Yeah, that's a great question
819
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:01,360
because I mean, I think it would
take the the extremely correct
820
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:07,840
fit and amount of money to get
him to leave Louisville, but I
821
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,200
think that that does potentially
exist.
822
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,240
Do we want to talk about what
Jim just put out there?
823
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:17,880
Sure.
All right.
824
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:22,880
What about our backup to
Franklin, PJ Fleck or Chesney?
825
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,960
OK.
Of those 2GO Bob Chesney.
826
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,080
You think so?
Yeah, swing for the fences,
827
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,520
don't don't swing for AC and I
single.
828
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,280
All right.
And no disrespect, Fleck, he's
829
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,760
done a good job at Minnesota.
But I think a few things.
830
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,920
First of all, he's coached
nothing but the Midwest.
831
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,360
It's a it's a Fuente type
situation.
832
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,600
Again, when it comes to
recruiting and understanding
833
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:54,440
what's around you, he's done
nothing but Western Michigan in
834
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,880
Minnesota, that's all he's
coached at.
835
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,240
Yeah.
That is not footprint.
836
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,160
That is not understanding the
culture down here.
837
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:07,600
I think he is a good coach, but
I don't think it fits And and
838
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,680
again.
If we were going in that
839
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,280
direction, I feel like, you
know, I think Matt Campbell
840
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,920
would make more sense than.
Fuck yeah, he made more sense.
841
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:20,680
At least he coached in southern
part of Ohio versus way out
842
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:21,600
there.
Yeah.
843
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,000
And that's no different.
Like no disrespect.
844
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,600
If if if Fleck ends up being the
higher, I think you know it'll.
845
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,840
I can live with it, but I.
Can live with it, but it's it's
846
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,200
not, it doesn't, I don't think
it excites anybody.
847
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:41,440
I don't think it's necessarily,
it's not a ceiling raising move.
848
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,800
It might be a floor raising
move, but it wouldn't be a
849
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:49,560
ceiling raising move.
Well, if he does get hired,
850
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,120
that's literally the first thing
that has to happen.
851
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,680
He has to go to the duck pond.
He has to roll across it.
852
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,640
Are we going to?
Is he going to get a new new
853
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:01,520
hashtag?
What?
854
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,200
No, Row the boat.
Still works, just keep the keep
855
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,640
row the boat.
Row, row on the boat.
856
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:16,120
The other thing is where was it?
I think you're by your, your,
857
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:26,200
your Bob Chesney move.
I think it just a, the guy is a
858
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,280
winner.
That's it's, it's, it's, it's
859
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,640
you know what?
It's very similar to Kirk
860
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,120
Signetti.
Kirk Signetti started D31, he
861
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,320
went to E lining 1.
He won, he won, he won.
862
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:46,760
And if you look at Chesney, 127
and 51, as a head coach, and he
863
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,880
has roughly been a head coach
since 2010.
864
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,000
Me either.
I'm, I'm with you there, Sean.
865
00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,560
It's.
Not bullshit.
866
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,400
Brian would get a orange sweater
base on a room tie and a
867
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,880
heartbeat on this show.
No, I mean.
868
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:08,080
I I not the tie.
You pull it off.
869
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:09,960
You pull off a sweater, bed and
tie.
870
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,880
You really could, That beard of
yours?
871
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,240
You know what?
You flatter me, Curtis.
872
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,200
You flatter me.
All right, that's what.
873
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:22,000
But But back to Chesney.
I mean, it's nothing but
874
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,840
winning.
It's Let's see again.
875
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:33,280
I, I, I like this concept, but
at the same time, I like the
876
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,400
idea of we have this money,
let's actually put it to fucking
877
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,800
use and not just get the next
guy that we can get.
878
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:44,000
I'm with you on that.
And and I'm not I'm not saying
879
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,280
anything's wrong with with that
mindset, Steven, you know,
880
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,440
putting out there Chesney
wouldn't cost a lot either.
881
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,920
Like I get that.
But you won't throw your nuts on
882
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,880
the table and say, listen, we're
we're playing with big boy money
883
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,600
now.
Well, if it's, you know,
884
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,960
chastity, I think you know, when
you talk about the money coming
885
00:57:59,960 --> 00:58:01,960
in, he's not going to cost a
lot, but he's what he's also not
886
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,800
going to do is bring you in a
lot of money.
887
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,320
He's not a guy that's going to
go out there and glad hand the
888
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:12,480
donors out the gate.
He's got to win eight games in
889
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,280
the first two years before
people are going to really open
890
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,720
up their wallets now.
And and beyond that, I don't
891
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,120
know if if much, much less than
that is going to get it done.
892
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,960
So he's not going to get the
immediate buy in from, from the
893
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,000
donors, from a lot of the fan
base that someone like James
894
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:36,080
Franklin we get.
And and then there's still other
895
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:41,640
guys out there like, I mean, who
thought?
896
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:49,040
He must not be named he he wears
a cock on his hat.
897
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,200
Oh.
No, no, pretty much.
898
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,160
Per the South Carolina fan base,
him firing Mike Schuler bought
899
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,320
him a year.
He did what he he did.
900
00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,360
Can I say it?
And everybody in here is
901
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,680
probably old enough to know
this.
902
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,600
He did what his daddy never
could do.
903
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,800
It's fair.
I mean, I mean, how many, How
904
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,440
many?
Well, it took him how many
905
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,360
years?
It took him too long to do it.
906
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,520
But no, it didn't though.
Sheila just got hired this year.
907
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:27,080
Well, no, I'm saying Frank.
He still never fired the guy.
908
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,640
Yeah, he kept him on staff.
He demoted him.
909
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:37,000
He demoted him.
And he and he's took it and.
910
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,480
And he took the demotion.
So I mean, there's, there's, you
911
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,080
know, you don't, you don't take
a demotion if you don't think
912
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,040
it's warranted.
Yeah, there you go.
913
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,480
There's still a lot of second
options out there.
914
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,480
And again, I think having the
the one thing that's going to
915
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,440
talk is money talks.
And I think the the agents talk
916
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,240
to each other.
There's now probably a few
917
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,400
people out there who would
consider us because now they
918
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,200
know.
You know what?
919
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,200
They can give you 9.7 million,
they're going to.
920
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:12,640
They can dump X amount of
dollars into NIO into your
921
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:17,680
assistant coaching pool.
If anything, as crazy as it
922
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:22,680
sounds, what the last two weeks
has done is raise the profile of
923
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,960
the program and of the job
itself.
924
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:31,640
It's true because we were able
to bite early and because we got
925
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,880
tied to James Franklin pretty
early in the process.
926
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,840
I mean, you got a lot of people
talking about the Virginia Tech
927
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:41,400
job and also not just talk about
the Virginia Tech job, but
928
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,320
talking about what that job
means, what it's about, what
929
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,880
they can, what we can offer.
I think, you know, getting those
930
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,360
things out into the sphere is
going to raise the profile of
931
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:58,480
the job overall to hopefully
give us a little bit of a, you
932
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:03,560
know, a better pool.
If if Franklin ends up not being
933
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:07,480
the guy I know that we already
have potentially, you know,
934
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,240
they, they talked about two to
four names getting passed from
935
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,680
the committee.
I'm sure there's two to three
936
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:17,120
guys that they've got that have
been vetted that just haven't
937
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:20,360
got into full on contract
negotiations because we were
938
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:22,240
dealing with Franklin.
First, true.
939
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:24,800
I'm going to make this real
quick.
940
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,280
Our our wonderful sponsor Jeremy
made mention of this.
941
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,360
Pete Masciato is the new mayor
of Blacksburg.
942
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,240
Hey.
Big Pete, very well known as
943
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,440
business friendly Pete, very
well known as university
944
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:48,800
friendly beat Salamander guy.
Yep, that's who he is.
945
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,280
I'm not saying his name.
He's salamander guy that made
946
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,720
that damn walk from Center St. a
pain in the ass when he fucking
947
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:56,920
stopped the wood off.
Pete.
948
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,440
Can I be?
The first thing you do is open
949
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,760
the woods back up from Center
St. to Lane to make it a hell of
950
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,400
a lot easier.
Thank you.
951
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,400
Oh.
Man, Jeremy, Jeremy, just
952
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,480
through Salamanders are back on
the menu.
953
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,160
That's good.
Oh my gosh.
954
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,600
So yeah.
But the whole thing somebody may
955
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,680
have mentioned, is there ever
been a hire this early in the
956
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,040
cycle?
No.
957
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,600
But there's also never been
someone of James Franklin's
958
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,280
caliber open this early in the
cycle.
959
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,760
Yeah.
There just hasn't.
960
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,200
There just hasn't been that.
And there's still those, there's
961
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:38,120
still your Jimbo's and guys like
that who are out of coaching
962
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:44,520
that won't back in.
You know, listen, Brian's costly
963
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,000
optimistic.
I can be optimistic if if in a
964
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,720
month I'm not optimistic we got
real problems.
965
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:57,480
Because I can talk, I guess.
I guess that man, I'm, I'm, I'm
966
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,360
going to be optimal.
Whatever, whatever I'm dealt.
967
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,840
I'm I'm going to, you know, look
at it slightly on the the glass
968
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,640
half full side, but I'm going to
I'm, you know, still still keep
969
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:10,720
it within the frame of reality.
I'm not going to just put on the
970
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,120
the Rose colored glasses and
call it a day.
971
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:20,560
But at the same time, I try to
look for whatever our situation
972
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,040
is, try to find the positives in
it, find things that we can, you
973
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,160
know, look at and, and hold on
to as we move forward.
974
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,800
And yeah, I'll do that whoever
the coach is and, and we'll go
975
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,520
from there.
But obviously, I think if
976
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:37,480
you're, if you're asking me
right now if, if I'd be happy
977
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,400
with James Franklin, if he ends
up signing on the dotted line,
978
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,240
I, I would say yes.
I think that's probably the best
979
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:48,520
candidate that's available right
now that is a reasonable
980
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:53,360
candidate that I think could
come here and have some success
981
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:57,520
out the gate.
You know, I, I, I still wouldn't
982
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,200
have a problem with, you know,
put Mullen in there, but I don't
983
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,280
know how feasible Mullen is at
this point.
984
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,960
When you look at some of the
other candidates that we had
985
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:12,560
talked about on here, it's
really hard to see more than a
986
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,840
handful potentially being in
play.
987
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,520
So I'm hoping that the the
Franklin thing works out and if
988
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,880
not, we'll see who those next,
you know, two to three guys
989
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,280
behind him are.
Yeah.
990
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,880
All right, let's go ahead,
Brian.
991
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:32,840
Let's talk some football because
it has been got to say,
992
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,440
regardless what you've been
watching, the last like month
993
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:43,400
has been extra entertaining in
college football and it feels
994
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:48,920
like it's always this way.
This weekend there's again just
995
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:55,520
good games all over the place.
There's sneaky games and let's
996
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,880
get some big screeners.
Unfortunately, Brian had rough
997
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,800
weekend.
We're officially on the Fade
998
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:05,000
sibling.
You know what, man, it's been
999
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,600
the last two weeks have not been
good to me.
1000
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,320
They have not been good to me at
all.
1001
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:16,560
I backed up AO for four, a big
old doughnut with A1 for three,
1002
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:23,200
one in three-week.
So it hasn't been a good run for
1003
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:27,440
me.
I'm still not out of the out of
1004
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,000
the weeds here.
I I still have some some
1005
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:35,080
potential ground to make up.
I've got what we got, 5 weeks
1006
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,000
left.
In the in.
1007
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,200
The regular season here.
Hey listen everything football
1008
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:45,240
wise, Yahoo or picking is not
being good for me.
1009
01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:49,240
I just got, I just got to gain 2
games on, you know, Sheldon
1010
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,120
Tally every week going forward
and I'm right back in it.
1011
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,120
Yeah.
It's, it's been rough this year
1012
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:59,280
and the whole thing is it's we
if there hadn't been a couple
1013
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:03,840
hooks, I think we'd probably all
be close to 500, if not slightly
1014
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,800
over The hook is just yeah.
Hired Tally.
1015
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,960
I'll be the.
OC there you go.
1016
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:13,160
All right, there's what that is.
Bunch of good games this week
1017
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,120
even though they couldn't be
with us tonight.
1018
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,920
Shelton and Tally always making
their picks.
1019
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,360
So let's start it.
I got the first game as the
1020
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:29,720
Oregon Ducks go visit Iowa.
Chinnick Hawkeye laying 5 1/2 or
1021
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:34,680
getting 5 1/2 at home.
And there was one reason I
1022
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,440
picked the game the way I picked
this game.
1023
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,880
It's a 330 kick, not a night
game.
1024
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,880
Oregon wins by at least a
touchdown.
1025
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,360
If this was a night game, I'll
have taken the Hawkeyes in a
1026
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:50,600
heartbeat because bad things
happen to rank teams.
1027
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,920
It cannot get night.
It's true, and it's not a night
1028
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:58,520
game.
So Sheldon Taliban, I'm ride
1029
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:02,880
with you as well.
Donuts on the board, baby.
1030
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:08,440
So everyone now knows take Iowa
and the points because we all
1031
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:13,200
picked.
It if you ride with BCP, you're
1032
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,880
losing money.
But if you fade us, you're rich.
1033
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,120
That's right.
I think the only reason Tally
1034
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,760
chose this one this week is I
think South Carolina's off,
1035
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,080
aren't they?
They're off and I think he said
1036
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,520
one of these teams is firing a
coach.
1037
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,520
That is exactly what he said.
Shane ain't playing.
1038
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,080
Somebody's getting fired after
this game, which I don't.
1039
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,560
Think whoever loses is getting
fired, is what he said.
1040
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:42,320
I don't think anybody's getting
fired because Dallas buyout is
1041
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,320
pretty big too.
I don't know if it's $54 million
1042
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,320
big.
Let let me look at that real
1043
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:49,320
quick.
Yeah, Florida, Florida State has
1044
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:52,360
a buyout money problem and
that's, and that's usually not a
1045
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:56,920
Florida State problem, but they
put themselves in the situation
1046
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:00,200
where getting rid of their guy
and getting a guy they actually
1047
01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,000
want is going to be a problem.
Ain't nobody firing anybody.
1048
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,200
You know what Dabo's buyout is?
What you got?
1049
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,400
It's higher than NOR bells.
No shit, it's 60 million.
1050
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:14,200
All right.
Well, this is a.
1051
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,720
This is.
A This is just the suck bowl.
1052
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,279
This is the suck bowl.
The suck.
1053
01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:22,960
Bowl with talented players.
Exactly.
1054
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,640
Suck bowl with talented players.
This is the purgatory of the
1055
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:29,800
college football.
And and then this has been
1056
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,960
pointed out numerous times on
social media network this week.
1057
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,560
The two teams who bitched
threaten to sue and leave the
1058
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,000
ACC because they won't get
enough money.
1059
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,560
You know this game is taking
place TV wise.
1060
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,680
Where is it?
ACC Network non meals been
1061
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:52,439
affected but.
Serves them right.
1062
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:57,600
In Death Valley, Clemson land
the 2 1/2 home spread as normal
1063
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,240
and Tally says.
FSU.
1064
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,359
Brian.
Says I went the other direction,
1065
01:09:04,359 --> 01:09:08,560
man, I think you know, when we,
when we talked about, I talked
1066
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,359
about earlier with the
inconsistent play, I think
1067
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:14,279
Florida State is just way too
damn inconsistent, especially on
1068
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:16,880
the offensive side of the ball.
I think you're going to see
1069
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,240
Clemson not be good, but they'll
be good enough.
1070
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:28,160
I am the exact opposite of you.
I think against Wake Forest last
1071
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,359
week, I think Florida State
found the mojo while Clemson
1072
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:40,479
lost the Duke in a 91 point game
and they lost it in Death
1073
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,000
Valley.
And you know, there's games that
1074
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,600
break people's wills.
I I I think that might have been
1075
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,479
the game that broke the will,
where vice versa, I think the
1076
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:54,680
weight game may woke up Florida
State Knowles Shelton rides
1077
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,280
with.
Clemson.
1078
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,440
Hope was he paying attention to
your picks?
1079
01:10:00,440 --> 01:10:04,320
He probably wouldn't.
If he was, he did the wrong
1080
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,200
thing.
Why Shelton?
1081
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,360
Why?
All righty, next.
1082
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,360
Sneaky.
Sneaky.
1083
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,920
Good game Saturday night.
Sneaky.
1084
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,680
It's creeping in there.
I mean, I almost picked this
1085
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:23,840
one, but I I don't because for
some reason Shelton pays
1086
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:28,120
attention to BYU significantly.
I don't know why he's mentioned
1087
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:33,840
it in the past, but this game,
it's in Lubbock, high noon,
1088
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:38,600
SO11-O clock start, which if I
was Texas Tech, I'd be
1089
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:44,280
absolutely dismayed because this
is this is the stupidity of Fox
1090
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:46,280
or that this is ABC has this
game.
1091
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:50,720
This is a stupidity of ABC.
This is like the biggest game of
1092
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,360
the week.
This should not be a noon kick.
1093
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,680
It should not be even close to a
noon kick.
1094
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:00,960
If you look at other top 25
matchups, the night games are
1095
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,720
It's like LSU, Alabama is the
night game.
1096
01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:08,160
LSU is dead in the water.
Alabama somehow that ranked four
1097
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,840
even though they lost to a four
loss.
1098
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:15,280
Team losses don't matter.
It's just who your name is.
1099
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,760
Texas Tech leads 9 1/2 Shelton
rides with.
1100
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,720
Texas Tech.
Guns up, he says.
1101
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,160
Tally.
TT.
1102
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,480
Guns up.
Hey that that 9 1/2 is fishy to
1103
01:11:31,480 --> 01:11:33,520
me.
That 9 1/2 is fishy to me.
1104
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:39,360
Well with well, it's it put it
up there especially to me too.
1105
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,240
BYU is unbeaten and I know you
can look at strength of
1106
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,120
schedule, staying at the record
and all that stuff.
1107
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,760
It's like, well, who have they
played?
1108
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,960
And it's like, well, you know
what, There ain't no, they may
1109
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:55,400
not have the best of who they
played, but getting out and 1/2
1110
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,520
is a ton.
I don't know who wins the game
1111
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,520
honestly if this was a night
game I I might could see Texas
1112
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:08,280
Tech beaten by 10 but a but a a
day game that just sucks.
1113
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:13,160
Top 10 matchup noon day game.
Get out of here, ESPN.
1114
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,280
Just get out.
Yeah.
1115
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:18,960
I I can't believe they're doing
that again, but you know.
1116
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:24,440
It's just like, you know?
But they did.
1117
01:12:24,440 --> 01:12:25,800
They don't have the right logos
man.
1118
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:28,800
They don't.
They don't have the right logos.
1119
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:36,280
Alrighty, last one, Miss Sigler.
Hey, man, I saw this.
1120
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:40,400
I was like, you know what the,
the, the, the line on this alone
1121
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,360
is?
It's kind of funny funny as
1122
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:48,600
well.
Mizzou getting 6 1/2 at home.
1123
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:58,000
I like A&M in this one.
I think if if this was 7 1/2 I
1124
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,240
would have went Mizzou.
If this was 7 I probably would
1125
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,560
have went Mizzou. 6 and a hook
I'm going to go.
1126
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:12,440
A&M here, by the way.
Yes, the starting quarterback
1127
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,360
for Missouri has been out.
I think he's been ruled out with
1128
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:19,720
this game.
It feels like this is what Texas
1129
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,760
A&M does.
They get to 8 and O, they get to
1130
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:27,320
7 and O and there and there is a
game they should win and they
1131
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:32,280
just don't.
And I think give me getting
1132
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:33,480
points at home, I'll take Mizzou
all.
1133
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,000
Right.
Shelton is riding with you, and
1134
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:41,160
Tally, for whatever reason,
decided he was going to ride
1135
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:45,080
with me on this one, and I think
it's solely because Mizzou's
1136
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,160
quarterback is.
Out Mizzou's quarterback it's
1137
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,200
funny we we all voted the same
old Oregon and each of us rode
1138
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,720
with you on one of our.
You know what man, y'all are
1139
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,240
rolling the dice.
Every single one of us, it's
1140
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,920
like we didn't fade you.
Like, you know, I can't keep
1141
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:01,680
being wrong.
Eventually, it's got to be
1142
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:03,040
right.
Hey, at least you know,
1143
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,400
potentially I can make up some
ground on somebody as I'm going.
1144
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,080
I should at least make up, you
know, if I, if I get things
1145
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,120
right, I can make up one game on
everybody you can.
1146
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,360
Make one game upon everybody.
Exactly, exactly.
1147
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:19,280
All right, so there that is.
Let me go to Twitter like you
1148
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:23,240
know, nothing's came out as it
on election night.
1149
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,720
I mean, other than the, you
know, Pete, Pete nailed it.
1150
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:34,840
So in, in Blacksburg.
So that's, that's a, that's,
1151
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:36,000
that's a good deal.
I think.
1152
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:39,080
You know, you, you talk about,
you know, bar friendly, business
1153
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:44,760
friendly, university friendly,
infrastructure friendly.
1154
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,800
Yeah, it's it's what you need.
It's what you need right here.
1155
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,440
It's it's a big win for if you
are a fan of Virginia Tech, the
1156
01:14:52,440 --> 01:14:55,720
school, love the town of
Blacksburg, you want to see it
1157
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,680
grow and figure out how to do
things versus just sitting on
1158
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:04,560
your hands like some people have
been doing really good thing,
1159
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:06,760
really good thing.
All right.
1160
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:11,360
Anything else Brian coming
through the wire as it's a
1161
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:16,400
little after 10 here?
Nothing on this end buddy.
1162
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,200
All.
Right.
1163
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:20,560
Let's wrap up this episode of
the Boundary Corner Podcast
1164
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,120
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1165
01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:25,960
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1166
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,200
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Seclen.
1167
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,680
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1168
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:33,360
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1169
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,880
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1170
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:40,000
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1171
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1172
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1173
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1175
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,480
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1176
01:15:55,480 --> 01:15:58,560
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1178
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1179
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,360
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1180
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,280
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1181
01:16:10,640 --> 01:17:06,080
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