This week we discuss our experiences at the Hokies Tailgate Tour stop at Hardywood West Creek in RVA featuring Brent Pry, Whit Babcock, and Mike Burnop. We also look at the Hokie Hall of Fame inductees, the new additions to the support staff, some baseball updates, and an update on recruiting.
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast, I am Curtis
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Wilson, I'm Brian seagull, but
if you live here on a Wednesday
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night we got some there's some
drinks.
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This time we got some some fun
stuff to talk about.
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Especially for Monday night, we
have a lot of stuff to talk
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about drinks this time.
Yes.
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Proudly from Monday night
holding the VT food and science
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technology kuzey, We picked up
the swag.
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Why all sorts of swag from
Monday night man, we're going to
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get that into that on the back
end because there's so much to
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unload their.
We forget about a lot of other
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stuff.
If we didn't come, I had a super
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long day, Ron it takes only
about it, man, tell me when I'm
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done with you guys.
This morning going to be in
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meetings all day and I was and
have some family in from out of
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town and man we did some steaks
or heat is on the grill tonight.
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Right?
Homemade peach ice cream.
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I prefer banana.
I lost.
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He chose ice cream eat.
Oh man.
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So that's some Halifax.
You right there, homie?
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Yeah.
It's a great thing but after all
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that after my crazy day and I
know you've been busy too.
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I completely missed her.
Jim Phillips ACC press
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conference so big guy.
The floor is yours to inform me
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of what the hell happened?
Well, Jim Phillips got up there
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and he kind of sang Kumbaya for
a little bit.
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He's trying to talk about the
all the neighborhood should be
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able to have success and we
should all do what's right for
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the kids and keep the kids in
mind.
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And you know, It was kind of
like there was some decent
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points in there, but it was
mostly kind of fluff in
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bullshit.
I mean, I think the overarching
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theme is that, you know, he is
keeping options open, whatever.
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That means.
Hopefully, that means adding
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members and renegotiating the
meteorites in terms of the, the,
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the number.
Okay?
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We need to be closer to that 40
mil versus that lower end of the
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30s.
That's what needs to happen.
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I don't know if that's going to
be what ultimately comes through
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with this.
But I feel like this was a talk
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that if it was had five years
ago, it might have landed
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better.
But it's one of those things
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where?
Here's here's how things it's
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the should be versus the
reality, right?
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So right now he's saying this is
how things should be, but but in
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reality, they're not.
So if you're not addressing
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reality, it doesn't really
matter how things should be.
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I need someone that's having
practical Solutions not Pie in
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the Sky dreams of what this
thing should be.
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I think we're beyond that at
this point.
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This ain't college football in
Utopia anymore.
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This is what it sounds like to
me.
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Yeah.
That ship has sailed loving.
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It's gone.
You know, we're talking about it
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being driven by money and that's
not a good thing.
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It's been driven by money for
over a decade.
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Really, if we're talking about
it for real started, 30 years
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ago, and it's been a rocket
ship, the last decade there in
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there.
It's not slowing down.
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No, it's not.
It would, if you did, if you
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think it's slowing down, you're
being naive, you're being super
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nice.
Well, thank you for that.
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So it sounds like I didn't miss
much, but an overarching theme
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of either he's playing nice or
he has no clue and I hope it's
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the first not the second for the
Hokie sake.
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I'm hoping he's saying things
publicly but but doing what
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needs to be done on the back
end, we will be saying the nice
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stuff publicly and just getting
and pulling out all the women.
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I'm hoping he learned something
from the Big Ten last year and
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that they said the right shit.
But then in the meantime, they
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were negotiating Dating getting
to schools from the Pac-12 from
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the alliance to join their
conference table.
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They pulled the knives and just
started sticking people left and
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right.
Well Brian let's talk.
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We were talking about this real
quick.
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Can or the Big Ten or the Big
12.
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The Big Ten in the SEC again
long day for me.
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So I stumbled a night y'all.
It is what it is.
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The only way to the ACC can get
out of Grants of right.
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Deal is to have 18 s.
Correct date not 784 a full
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majority basically.
Leave the conference Are there
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18 s that are attractive enough
to the Big Ten in the SEC where
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they would do that?
I think combined.
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Yes but I don't there's the
problem is there's a lot of
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coordination it'll happen to
have to happen because you would
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have to essentially have the SEC
and Big Ten colluding to have
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all these schools pull out of
the ACC at the same time?
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Well, I don't think the FED
would like that.
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That's That's someone that does
that does sound, you know, I
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don't think that's above board
but mean a lot of stuff that
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goes down isn't above board.
Hell, yeah, whether it's the
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basically legal insider trading
that pretty much every
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Congressman does or any other,
you know, stuff that goes down
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like that.
So, I mean, I could see it
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happening.
I don't know if it will happen
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right now.
The grant of rights is the
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biggest firewall that the ACC As
and it's a pretty good one.
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As long as they don't have a
teens that are willing to pull
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out at one time and I mean, when
you look at it, there are
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potentially a that could go if
the Big Ten and SEC tried to
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move all at one time.
And if they don't do that, then
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it's going to be piecemeal and
it won't be enough to get a
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grant of rights in which case, I
don't think the ACC those
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dissolves until the end of that.
Period.
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Well, I don't think one period.
I don't think it's the end of
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the period I don't, but I don't
think it's 14 years away because
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14 years.
I don't think they, I don't
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think they pull out any earlier
than two or three years ahead of
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that though.
Yeah, so I mean, we're talking
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that's a decade so because
because, if we're talking about
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that, because with grant of
rights is essentially saying,
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I'm picking up this conference,
I've already paid the new
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conference or the school is
already going to pay the extra
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departure fee.
Which is 100 top of that.
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You cannot broadcast the rights
for that those games, unless you
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pay it unless you pay us.
Yeah, so that's the big sticking
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point is that what's the point
of moving early, especially
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earlier, than one or two years,
unless you're willing to swallow
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that?
And what's the point of the SEC?
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Or the Big Ten to, even pull the
trigger on that they could just
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say with the elite conferences,
right now, right?
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We have 16 teams were dead.
Tian, our way into the playoff.
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We're probably going to create
their own playoff.
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What's the reasoning for us to
go after someone in basically
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hand, if they go after four
teams a piece and basically hand
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a conference, what probably 400
million dollars a year give or
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take?
Yeah, I mean, it's going to be
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interesting to see how this
shakes out.
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I think in the in the interest
of everybody, it would be better
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if we had For conferences, when
all was said and done instead of
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two.
But if I heading towards to the
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thing that I'd say, there's, you
know, the firewalls protecting
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the ACC but in some ways it
could hurt the ACC because if
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the SEC decides it wants to
start expanding more, And now
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market-wise it's going to look
at the bigger markets.
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It wants the North Carolina
market, it wants the Virginia
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Market but there's also some
markets out west and in the the
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middle of the country that are
in Big 12 and Pac-12 territory
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that they might Target in the
meantime, what does that mean
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for the ACC long-term do more
schools?
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Get left out long-term because
the SEC expands into these other
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markets in the meantime because
they have less.
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Less of a firewall.
So they can actually go and, and
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poach them a little bit sooner.
Well, the Midwest is tough,
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though.
The Midwest to me, the Midwest
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is dead to the SEC in the Big
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The to one, or two teams.
Notwithstanding.
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Yeah, one team to team.
Maybe dip.
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Maybe if you didn't Phillips.
Right now, we already said it to
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me.
He has to go, fishes.
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And obviously, Does geography
matter anymore?
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No, no, you got to go vicious.
You got to look at market and
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you've got to look at good
athletic departments and you
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know to me you just go in the
Northeast Corridor of the
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country.
You look at Oregon, you look at
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u-dub, you look at Stanford.
If Cal wants to come maybe right
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there.
You've got the number 9 tv
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Market the number 70 me market
in the number 20 TV Market.
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Immediately more eyes if the ACC
also thinks about it and this is
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also something you can push to
ESPN and others where you can
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renegotiate your contracts.
If you go get those teams,
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you're almost guaranteed a non
30 slot.
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So there is an extra football
game on that, you're going to be
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able to pull probably where no
other conference can.
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And if you have extra games,
what does that mean?
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Ryan, No paper, especially if
you got it in those markets that
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are numbered, you know, pretty
big markets and actually pretty
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well-known poet well-respected
teams.
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So, you know, to me, he's just
got to go Scorch, the Earth,
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burn it, get what you can Notre,
Dame's a pipe dream because I
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think Notre Dame's going to get
some.
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I think CBS is after losing the
SEC deal.
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My opinion is CVS.
Is going to throw in asinine
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number at Notre Dame?
Yeah, I don't think they get
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that.
What?
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It was?
70 75 million that they were
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talking about but I think they
get somewhere in the same
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ballpark with with the big, with
the SEC and maybe even above
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that, depending on, you know,
where they end up Landing there.
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I mean, they're going to get a
lot of money.
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Yeah.
They're they're at least going
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to land somewhere, right?
Around 50.
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Probably higher.
Because CBS is going to be
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starved for college football on
Saturday.
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So they're going to probably get
in b.c. in a price War.
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And if you get them in a price
war, I'm going to say that.
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What do we say to deal with
right now?
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It was 22, 23 24, 24, 20 times.
They triple, I think it can be
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triple.
I think it's at least gonna
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double up, you know, I and
they've got they've got the
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bargaining power right now,
because they've got the layer.
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All the, all the numbers are
going up and they got the
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leverage and they are a draw in
and of themselves.
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So they are unlike so many.
I mean there's only a handful of
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teams out there that are the
television draw that Notre Dame
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is.
And that's despite, I mean,
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they've had, you know, good runs
here but they haven't really had
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an Elite Squad here in a while.
So Salt Lake Bama, that's
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prevalent perennially in the
national championship
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discussion.
Truth, although they've been to
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the playoffs twice in five years
so they have they have but I get
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I get your drift on.
I get your drift on that.
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So I don't think that Domino's
going to fall because I think
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somebody's going to pay out
their ass for it and it's
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probably going to be worth it in
the long run for them.
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So there that is.
We've been on for 15 minutes and
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I haven't even talked Hokies yet
so let's jump to some Mochi
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stuff here and brought let's
start.
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We some staff updates were made
back about six days ago and some
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interesting moves.
Let's start with Jerome gouveia
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Winslow moving from player
Personnel into a analyst role
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joining Brian, Chris joining
Xavier joining Jeff Carpenter
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doing carry well.
Web along with one more person.
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We're going to talk about here.
I don't see this as a shock.
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No, jgw was coaching down at a
smaller school.
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He obviously has aspirations to
coach at a high level.
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To me, the player Personnel to
springboard.
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Yeah, that was, that was getting
his foot in the door at his alma
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mater.
This is him getting closer to an
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on-field role, you know, you can
say, whether you consider it a,
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you know, a bump up in, Terms of
role that that's questionable,
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depending on where you are, and
what your aspirations are.
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But it is, aspirations are to be
an on-field coach, that, this is
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definitely a jump for him, a
move up the ladder for him, so
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good for him, good for him.
You know, he got some, he always
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got some aligned grief back in
the day, but he was a solid
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player, not the most physically
gifted, but definitely a good
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football player.
And then Brian, there was one
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more dish into the analyst
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Jan Johnson, who played under At
Penn State team captain back in
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2019, spent a year on the
practice squad down at the
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Titans.
Also honorable, mention
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All-American, and some
All-American.
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All honorable mention Big Ten
honors from every other little
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story story on him at the yes we
did.
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Yes, we did about that later
with Janet Johnson talking about
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Joe Rudolph, but that gives us
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Now, So you've got we already
mentioned Chris Xavier, Jeff Jan
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carry and jdw.
Obviously a hell of a lot bigger
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than last year.
I mean, especially only analyst
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side.
Oh yes, significantly.
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Bigger on the analyst we're plus
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The the recruiting staff side
player Personnel side.
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But we're we're in the big plus
territory on the analyst side.
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And what that's going to do a
it's you always keep saying it
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Brian we're out of Mom and Pops
were getting we're not, you
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know, massive brain yet but when
you have six, when you have
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really probably one guy that's
probably going to go back and
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forth I'm assuming that's
probably gonna be Chris calling
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them.
Go back and forth and Webb's
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going to be your special teams
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What it does and buying you've
mentioned it before coaches,
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aren't going to have to spend as
much time in the film room.
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Let's time of the film room.
You got guys that you can trust,
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it's looking at stuff like that.
They're giving you notes.
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They're saying, all right.
Here's here's where this player
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needs to work on next practice.
Here's what this player needs to
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work on next practice.
Here's, here's what this
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upcoming opponent does.
Well, here's what they don't do.
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Well.
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And then they can explain how
that is going to help you and on
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the field and that these are
guys that you trust with this
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type of role versus having, just
like, you know, an intern doing
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stuff like that.
And then you have to go back and
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all right, well, he made these
notes but I've got to still
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analyze.
What, what was on the tape and
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then apply that.
These are guys, you can trust in
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that type of stuff, to, to
analyze the, the tape itself and
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and give you a boost.
Going into a game prep week or
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something like that, going into
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So that's big more eyes on
tapes, means more catches more
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fixing of issues.
That's the one part.
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I like about it is when you have
a rough game having that many
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analysts the coaches, don't have
to be there.
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The coaches can trust them to
figure out what's wrong.
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They can get on the field and
actually coach correctly,
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correcting.
Those are so love it.
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Hopefully next year We get
eight, maybe more.
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Yeah, we definitely need to keep
keep moving forward.
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I think, you know, this this is
this is a big jump for her where
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we were but we're still probably
just middle of the pack in terms
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of the ACC overall in terms of
the number of roles here.
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So we definitely need to get in
at least in that.
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Upper third.
If not in the top two or three
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now one other real quick note
concerning some additional
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players, we've got a list here
on go through really cool to see
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a guy like A.J Hampton.
Who grew up in Roanoke went to
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board by the taught played down.
It Emory & Henry played at Mount
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Union and spent some time at
Florida State, really cool to
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see.
He got a g a position here to
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further his career.
So awesome for that young man
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and then Brian Carolyn Wilfred
we have a new role of director
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of player engagement. so, We're
engaging the players.
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I mean, it's great, we got
another new role which is always
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awesome.
But is this, is this just
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keeping the kids focused on
grade, keeping the fifth focused
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on outside stuff?
I'm going to be interested to
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hear more about this role
because she had done some
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athletic advising pre this.
So I'm very interesting how this
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role shapes of this.
One of those Goodwill roles or
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if it's something different.
Yeah, I mean, she did allowing
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on the support staff, Support
Services student athlete.
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Support Services, team before
that.
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Yeah, I think what she was in
director of football,
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operations, director of football
operations before, getting this
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role.
So, you know, I don't know if
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this is going to look like on
paper or in practice, but I like
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that.
We're specializing.
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Yes, more on the off field staff
whether it's recruiting or other
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forms of player engagement off
the field.
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Yeah.
She was a assistant director of
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the saas S.
So yeah, also a tech Alum that
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are degree back in 2017.
So good for her, obviously with
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the veil wenzhou joining the
analyst day.
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Hokies were able to hire another
player Personnel.
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His name is Alex Jones.
Where do you think he
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potentially serve his capacity
in a role similar?
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You know, I don't know, man.
It's either Penn State marshal
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or somewhere like that.
He actually did some work like
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this back in Marshall and 2019.
He's a one of the Villa Grotto.
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He's another government.
Exactly.
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What's more important about
this?
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You know, obviously has a
background relationship.
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There is available in.
Zoe moved on the immediately.
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Back, filled his role that role
isn't empty, we're in the past.
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What are we seeing?
We seeing somebody?
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Leave a role.
The role never gets filled.
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Yep, that is what I like seeing
on this.
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Yeah, somebody would move up, or
somebody would move on.
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And then a roll with sit on
occupied, at least in terms of
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official announcement for months
at a time.
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Yeah, even if somebody was doing
it for me, Lee or informally in
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the interim.
We wouldn't really actually have
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Any sort of noted press release
on this for four months and
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months at a time and now we're
getting it, you know right
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shortly after you know things
are going down on the on the
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front end there.
So that's that's a good thing.
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They're definitely more
consistent with the press
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releases will consistent with
communication.
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Above all the staff off the
field is organized, and
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operating very true.
And then, obviously, they added
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one more.
Let's see.
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Rob Branch look first year and
had done some time at West
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Virginia state.
So obviously a smaller School
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plated, J mu.
But again, we take a look at
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that play.
A Personnel room, and do we
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lose?
I'm trying to think that we lose
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somebody few months ago, or is
this an additional position to
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that.
That's a good question.
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Let me see.
We got Mike, we've got robbed
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Alex and Lino.
So, did they gain one today?
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Used to be three out there used
to be three.
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I think it's for now.
Okay.
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If if somebody out there knows,
please let us know because I
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swear this was less than it was
a few months ago I started I
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just you know I need to keep an
Excel spreadsheet and delete and
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then we're is John Earl.
We need him one more summer.
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Rodriguez an assistance of
Creative Media in.
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Obviously, I'm gonna just say
this, she, she's going to be
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working with Zach, Lance tackle
and has done a hell of a job
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with the Creative Media stuff.
I mean, get getting that man.
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More help is going to make the
product look even better.
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She did some time as a graphic
designer out at University of
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Colorado, which is really Be
cool and she was a student there
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and she did she was a recruiting
assistant in terms of obviously
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Serena's got her foot in the
door up football, but I just
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love seeing Zack Steven grow
because it's I feel like that
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department in the last 18
months.
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Has really just like just went
through the roof, how things?
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Look visually how the videos or
cut.
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It's awesome to see that.
Yeah, and they and I really like
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the the graphics that they have
Pivoted to for the 23 class and
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a lot of the other things
they're doing as well, because I
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feel like that it kind of gotten
stale.
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There was a lot of like, the
20-20-20 stuff that kind of bled
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over into 20, 21 and 20 and 22
and it kind of got got same ish.
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And I feel like this is kind of,
I think the more hands on deck
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is made the creative side of it
a lot easier because when you
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can When you have more hands,
you can more easily Implement
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different ideas without having
to just plug in play to get to
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get the job done.
So, Abso-freakin'-lutely.
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So again the support staff
growing significantly in the
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last few years, something we
knew that had to happen for.
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That's awesome to see I Brown.
Let's turn to the diamond real
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quick and have a quick look five
Hokies get drafted for in the
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first five rounds, Gavin cross
the diamond going number 9, to
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the Royals.
Because I mean all year, he's a
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top ten pick, he's a top ten,
pick it, it holds, True show
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will go 68 to the twins.
Bisson, fourth round to the
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Dodgers.
Kate hundred to the Reds and
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then Graham Arvid, I just put
your debt name.
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I know.
Sorry Graham.
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So you just admit your mistakes
and you move on.
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There we go.
Awesome to see that.
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Not only that couple of those
really the first four guys are
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really going to get paid a
significant amount of Gavin and
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Tanner are going to get a boat
on money.
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No one slot.
I know Gavin slots like five and
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a half.
I want to say Tanner's or
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somewhere around too.
Likely not going to get the full
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payment going to get a lot of
money so great for them
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financially.
But just in general for the
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program, you sit here and just
two years ago.
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Team didn't even make the ACC
tournament.
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They didn't make it this year.
One of the best teams in the
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country and this is one of those
things that can get you rolling,
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right?
We had a great season and guys
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are getting drafted, it's an
easy sell Yeah I think that's
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the big thing is that this is
going to be a good seller.
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Recruiting Trails like hey you
come here you know you're going
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to get a bump in your draft
stock by coming here and
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spending time as a hokey and
with baseball I think that
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that's such a big big thing with
you know a lot of these kids
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getting some of them getting
drafted out of high school and
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making the decision.
Okay.
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Do I go Take the scholarship
offer that I have do.
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I go ahead and try to give it a
run in the minors.
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Hey, you come here, you spend 23
years here.
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You know, you're going to set
yourself up for a better spot
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down the road.
Yeah, and he, and nowadays in
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college baseball because of the
draft only going to 20 rounds.
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It is significantly, helping
keep players.
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Committed to their scholarship.
So, how you recruit?
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Now, it's even more important
because, you know, roughly only
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about 600 guys are getting
drafted.
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A lot of them, you know,
probably more than half of them.
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Maybe 60% or college guys,
because they've already got the
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proven record versus the
potential and high school guys,
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you know, which is really cool.
So again that program building
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even though it's a non-revenue
sport, it's Again, what do we
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always say?
Brian, it's one of those sports
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like wrestling, probably getting
close like women's basketball,
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where it pays for itself, more
money back to football.
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Yeah, I mean, it's some prestige
in that to I mean, this is, you
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know, College World Series.
Conference playoffs.
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I mean a lot of these that those
championships get a lot of air
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time.
So it's not like you know, a lot
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of the sports that you might see
on a random weekday on the SEC
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network.
These are getting some some
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Primetime spots on ESPN, on
ESPN2, on the SEC network.
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So it's important to to grow the
sport in that, In to grow your
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your department in those words
as well that are getting that
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are time, okay?
All right, Brian, this is going
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to be a little segment this
week.
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What really grinds Brian's
gears?
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You have the floor sir.
Okay, so you know we trash the
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NCAA pretty regularly on this
show that's not a secret to
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00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:51,900
anybody that's listening but
this this is the thing that
449
00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:54,200
bothers me the most about the
NCAA.
450
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,000
So you know we're we're in a
situation where you got Mass
451
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:04,000
realignment, you got ni L, + IL
stuff going on all crazy, the
452
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,900
NCAA washes, their hands.
But the the rules committee
453
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,900
found it in their in their time
to as they're looking at the
454
00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:16,500
game and try to figure out how
to make the game better.
455
00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:21,900
If there was something that just
was taking away from the quality
456
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:27,800
of the game Polly of baseball
and that is celebratory props on
457
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:33,300
the field.
So that means Hammer Time
458
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:40,300
potentially is no more and It's
just fucking stupid.
459
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,100
It's still, it's stupid.
There's no other way to say it.
460
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:48,400
So why are, why is this thing?
We're focusing on say it, moron,
461
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,700
you're a moron.
What are we doing?
462
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:58,200
I mean, we get we get all of
this stuff that we're going on.
463
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,200
That you should be, you know,
that you are a governing body
464
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,300
that you should be focused on.
And I'm not saying you can't
465
00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:07,100
focus on multiple things at one
time, I get that.
466
00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:10,300
Yes, but when you're not
handling, the big stuff.
467
00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:12,600
I can't take this small shit,
seriously.
468
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,000
Nope, they shot.
You just bring the hammer out.
469
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,600
What are they going to do?
I mean, seriously, what are they
470
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,600
going to do?
They have no spine.
471
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,200
They have no backbone.
How many at this point called?
472
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,200
They're bluffing, I mean, they
really have no, no Authority
473
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,900
anymore.
What are you going to do?
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00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:37,500
All right, Ron, let's turn it
over to recruiting had a commit
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00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:41,300
land on Monday, right above
where we were heading over to
476
00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:46,700
Hardy would an RV a product at a
Collegiate School.
477
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:55,400
Christian William 62, 170 247,
has him as a 87 3 star the
478
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,200
number 14 player in the state at
the moment.
479
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:04,000
Ted currently sits 36 in both
composite and overall and you
480
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,400
know, just kind of having a look
right now.
481
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:13,400
This is our highest commit to
date from the state of Virginia.
482
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,500
Brian, I know you had a little
time to Peak at him.
483
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,200
What are we seeing from this?
Again?
484
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:23,000
Athlete lot, more athletes this
year being recruited.
485
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,600
Yeah, he's probably going to be
a wide receiver for us, more
486
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,700
than likely just looking at the
Tate.
487
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,800
You know pretty good route
Runner.
488
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,000
Not Elite Speed but good enough
I really like that.
489
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,600
We are targeting a lot of lot
more guys that are that 61 and
490
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,600
above.
We get to get a little bit more
491
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,800
range across the board and I
like his hands.
492
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,300
He has a pretty good hands.
You shown the ability to go up
493
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:56,600
and get a ball and high point
it.
494
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,200
Good job of catching over the
middle.
495
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:03,100
Not not, not afraid to get you
over the middle leaving it. 170.
496
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:07,800
So I like it, you know, it's not
it's not a blow, your skirt up,
497
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,800
get but you could get it's one
of those things.
498
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,300
That's keeping the train moving.
Yeah.
499
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,500
Keeps the train moves and good
potential 24/7.
500
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:22,000
Thanks a lot more of him than
the rest of the recruiting
501
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,900
service because he's down an
eighty five.
502
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:27,300
Seven two point eight, five
seven so you kind of start doing
503
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:30,000
the math there's somebody's out
here is had him at like an 83
504
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:35,800
and you know I think just from
hearing you, he's not quite that
505
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,800
low, he's not closer to a 2 Star
than he is potential High 3.
506
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,900
And Brian you just mentioned it.
There only two guys in this
507
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:49,500
thing of 16 that are under six
foot tall and that's Thomas
508
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:54,600
Williams, The Athlete down out
of South Carolina and takehe
509
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,000
that Highland Springs and
everybody else.
510
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,100
You know, Trail on Mitchell.
We got out of Southern Nash, 6
511
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:06,500
to avoid Copeland, at Appomattox
64, you know, dealing with a key
512
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:12,000
down and Buford 61 Marcel 6.
I mean that is a good thing to
513
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,200
see and I also love seeing
athlete because every time I see
514
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:21,100
athlete it's usually you get
labeled that when you do
515
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:22,800
multiple things on a field,
right?
516
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,600
You're probably playing wideout
a running back or quarterback,
517
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,400
but you're doing something
defensively and we've already
518
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,200
seen in the early part of prize
10.
519
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:37,500
Year, he's not afraid to just
flip somebody, say you will be a
520
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:41,100
better Corner than you will a
wide receiver or you'll be a
521
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,200
better safety, then you will be
a core.
522
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,600
You know, getting athletes with
the lowercase, a is always a
523
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,000
good thing.
So, you know, in this case
524
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,800
they've got to uppercase a, you
get to you, get to find where
525
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,500
they fit in your system.
And when with a roster like
526
00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:01,500
ours, that has a lot of holes in
different places.
527
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,100
Getting guys with some of that
flexibility and fluidity of
528
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:11,300
position is not a bad thing.
Not at all.
529
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:17,699
All right, let's flip it.
To basketball recruiting Brandon
530
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,500
Rick Steiner.
Commits that name had been
531
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:23,000
popping up.
A lot people have been dealing.
532
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:30,500
Yeah, the Sun for us.
Kids of the 90s and 2000's, the
533
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:35,600
son of Big Poppa, Pump Scott,
Steiner the nephew of the
534
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,100
dog-faced gremlin Rick, Steiner,
who say, what you want to say
535
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:41,400
about pro wrestling.
Those two guys want to get all
536
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,800
Americans at Michigan.
They were likely Jit football
537
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,100
players are.
Let's get badass.
538
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:48,199
They were legit athletes.
Yeah, he just went into an
539
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,699
entertainment industry in.
I always loved the Steiner
540
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:56,600
Brothers, but 61 point guard,
185 pounds of top 10 player in
541
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,300
Georgia, rated three star, but
from everything you're reading
542
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:06,900
this kid went from like nobody
knew his name to being on
543
00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:12,700
everybody's radar, picking up a
ton of commits like LSU offered.
544
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,900
Miami Notre Dame Xavier, you
know, Georgia Tech Kansas State,
545
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,100
like some legit solid, you know,
programs are offering him in,
546
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:26,600
you know, the Hokies get in with
Mike young.
547
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:32,300
So, you know, again I've said it
with this class.
548
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:34,300
I mean, it's it holds true for
basketball.
549
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:39,500
Some of this is still Covid
carry over in just not having a
550
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:44,200
lot of tape and guys being under
recruited and you're seeing a
551
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,200
lot of big push at the last
minute.
552
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,600
Wants these guys start getting
all the other teams Radars, this
553
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,800
is what happened here.
I mean her extender is
554
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,700
essentially Padula 2.0 but you
know, you didn't.
555
00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:58,500
You didn't get any.
What?
556
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:01,000
Sophomore film?
You probably only got partial
557
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:08,800
Junior film.
So, yeah, so again, it helps in
558
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,600
probably helps.
The relationship was built early
559
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,600
with him trying to see here real
quick and see if we've got the
560
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,000
official offered date.
They don't have that on here,
561
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,600
but could probably go back
through this timeline.
562
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,500
Figure it out.
But again relationship, right?
563
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:30,100
Yep, we get, it's every sport.
And if you can get the
564
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:35,100
relationships, A guy like this,
who's under the radar, who blows
565
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,000
up.
You might have a chance of
566
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,300
pulling it off.
So awesome to see that.
567
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:44,900
All right, one more piece, Brian
here, the Hokey Hall of Fame,
568
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,400
class of 2020, to has announced
on a shout out through these
569
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,800
three.
Folks before we get to the for
570
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,800
football players, the first
tortilla happens on a three-time
571
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,200
All-American.
The second woman ever to win a
572
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:05,100
National Championship at
Virginia Tech or For AC tails
573
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:10,200
are career three in hammer,
throw one in weight, throw more
574
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,300
seldom, Nikki, two national
championships.
575
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:18,200
Three appearances in the
Olympics, third hokey to win
576
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,900
multiple NCAA titles and 2012 in
his weight throw championship
577
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:28,700
and then Sarah Smith six-time
ACC Champion All-American and 07
578
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:31,400
as a swimming and Diving scholar
athletes.
579
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,800
The first of all, shout out to
those. those Hokies who clearly,
580
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:40,200
you know, apparently, you know,
We kind of look at this and we
581
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:46,900
think about you see 2007 in that
you know, where we're building
582
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:51,900
to get here.
But let's talk about the guys
583
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,700
that we all know and I want to
start with Mike Gentry.
584
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,800
Remember gentrified, remember
hearing that back in the day you
585
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,600
hear about, guys would go to
Tech and get gentrified.
586
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,900
Mike was a for his time was a
revolutionary strength and
587
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:09,400
conditioning coach.
Yep.
588
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:15,400
In all of us, who are a certain
age when you started hearing
589
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:21,200
about Gentry and what he did to
some of the guys he made, A lot
590
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,100
of those teams, what they were
with his programs.
591
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:29,000
When you talk about the, the
development side of Virginia
592
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,800
Tech and turning the two and
three stars in to all Americans
593
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,100
and NFL draft picks.
It started with my Ginger damn,
594
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,700
right?
It did Mike still working, I
595
00:38:40,707 --> 00:38:43,600
think he's down at Emory & Henry
now, but also to see him go into
596
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,300
the Hall of Fame.
All right?
597
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:48,100
The next one, probably, if
you're a football fan of any
598
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:54,000
yell, regardless of Of tech, you
know, Phantom or not Bruce,
599
00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,300
Arians goes in quarterback in
the 1970s coached, a ton mean,
600
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:04,400
came back coached, at Tech.
I think for one year then
601
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,100
obviously in the NFL coach to
your beloved cold stare for a
602
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:12,000
while run, I know that Ben
Pittsburgh for a long spell
603
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,300
there.
As I was see, obviously Tampa.
604
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,500
You have a couple stops here
recently.
605
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:26,400
That it had some success.
So yeah, but I mean I love you
606
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,300
know say what you want.
Some people say well this is
607
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,200
because he want a Super Bowl.
Yeah.
608
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:37,400
Smart universities if somebody
wins a significant Something in
609
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000
their life.
Even if they were not the best
610
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,800
player on the field, you put
them in the Hall of Fame.
611
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,300
I don't give a damn.
Yeah, and I mean if we're being
612
00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:49,800
honest though, I mean a lot of
the The numbers that he held
613
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,500
when he from his from his time
stood up through Michael Vick.
614
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:57,300
So a lot of those didn't fall
until Vic got around there.
615
00:39:57,300 --> 00:40:01,700
So You know, there's something
to be said, I know was a
616
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:05,800
different era, you know, they
don't necessarily stand out in
617
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,900
the modern era.
But, you know, there were some
618
00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:14,300
to be said for what he did in
his time inside, just a career
619
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:16,800
Achievement Award.
That that's getting passed out
620
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,200
here, but it definitely helps
that he want.
621
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,100
He turned around and won a Super
Bowl as a coach in the NFL.
622
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,100
Yeah.
All right.
623
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:27,200
Brian, a few minutes ago, you
mentioned turning a tooth
624
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:33,500
turning, a 2 Star.
Into a All-American into a
625
00:40:33,508 --> 00:40:36,500
Benefield draft pick.
Essentially, that's what Mike
626
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,600
Gentry.
Did to Kam.
627
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,400
Chancellor of Chancellor was a
two-star with three offers.
628
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,000
Quarterback down.
And he comes, Virginia Tech, he
629
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,800
plays corner, he plays Rover,
he's plays free.
630
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:55,800
You know, two-time ACC Champion
Super Bowl champion All-Pro,
631
00:40:56,300 --> 00:41:01,100
when he hits you, you knew it.
And I mean, one of those guys,
632
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:06,900
you know, in the in the late
2000s, man, you you kind of, you
633
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:11,100
just kind of knew.
Yeah, yeah, I mean that was, you
634
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:16,000
know, when we talk about the
personality of you be you, there
635
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:22,800
are other guys that had Physical
traits that stood out, but can
636
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,600
was the guy that let his hitting
do the talking, let his energy
637
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,700
that he brought to the
proceedings, do the talking.
638
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:37,700
And it's nice to see him get in
there especially after such a
639
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:43,700
great NFL career you know
essentially the Thunder of the
640
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:47,800
legion of boom there.
Yes he was to meet to be.
641
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,800
Honestly he was the most
important part of the legion of
642
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,600
boom because if you don't have
someone of his size when he got
643
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:59,400
there he was like 64 225 who
could play like a free safety
644
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,700
hit like a linebacker could
cover tight end running.
645
00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:07,000
That thing doesn't click.
Don't get me wrong, Sherman was
646
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,400
great Comics was great, but if
you don't have him to put fear
647
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,300
leads to boo, never is all
right.
648
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:20,300
Speaking of putting fear, I mean
Vince Hall, man, or your starter
649
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,100
44 consecutive game started, I
mean him, and the DD still are
650
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:31,700
to me the prototypical, Mike and
backer in the system.
651
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:34,000
Yep.
And even the system we have.
652
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,300
Now, if you, if you told Brent
pry, he could find an Executor
653
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:40,900
and events in next year's class.
He take them in a heartbeat,
654
00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:44,100
something more impressive.
He did to me, you don't see this
655
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:46,500
happen when he won The Dudley in
06.
656
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:49,500
Best 8-ball bestie one player in
the state of Virginia.
657
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,400
He was a you don't see defensive
guys, get that even guys who
658
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,200
gets a ton of tackles and less
and less their own like special
659
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,300
teams and their running back.
Punk and kickers.
660
00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:00,500
Exactly.
That's usually the only way you
661
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:02,700
see that happen.
Exactly.
662
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,400
I mean but you know, this this
was the years he played where
663
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:14,100
the years we were We were games
every year, we will constantly
664
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:16,500
in front of that TV or multiple
games every year we were
665
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:18,800
multiple watching.
We were watching multiple games
666
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,500
together at home in the dorm
room in the apartment apartment.
667
00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:27,900
So we were wondering, why, why
did we start doing this at 12
668
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:32,100
today?
You know, why not in, you know,
669
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,400
again, it's just one of those
things.
670
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,600
I'm glad he got his due, but you
go through, there's Ben.
671
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,300
Just a handful of folks, to win
the dull, awarded a defensive
672
00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:46,800
players and the names, you know,
add up.
673
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,700
So I'm really glad to see they
put Vince Hall in the Hall of
674
00:43:49,707 --> 00:43:52,200
Fame.
He is well deserved of it man.
675
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:56,700
Absolutely.
I run for we start talking about
676
00:43:56,700 --> 00:44:00,200
what went down Monday night, we
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Now back to the episode All
686
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:31,500
right, so Monday was the Hokie
tailgate at Hardy would hear in
687
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:34,500
the RBA being Brian talked a
couple times.
688
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:40,100
Say hey, let's try to, you know,
get out there about 20, 25 4:45
689
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,700
We thought we were going to beat
the traffic or did we beat the
690
00:44:44,707 --> 00:44:50,100
traffic scratch that scratch
that oh yeah we got there.
691
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:54,000
We were they were parking across
the street and we were about two
692
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,400
thirds of the way down that lot
when we got there.
693
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,800
So Hokies were out in full
force.
694
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,200
I don't know where the official
numbers are, but I know they
695
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,200
were north of 1000.
I think they were close to 1500.
696
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000
So that's a damn good showing
for for Hokie Nation out here in
697
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,500
the r-va.
I'll ask you first impressions
698
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:18,400
of the event.
Well, the first impression is
699
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,800
event, just walking after we
parked and we're walking up,
700
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,500
they had shuttles.
So you did not have to walk
701
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:26,300
completely from the parking lot
but just walking up.
702
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:29,500
It was a told brine it brought
me back.
703
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:32,000
It felt like we were walking up
from prices for it.
704
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,300
When we were younger, we used
tailgate down there and going up
705
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:36,900
to the stadium.
You just had this feel.
706
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:40,400
It's a it's a different energy
going on in Hokie Nation right
707
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,400
now with everything.
Been done since November of last
708
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,800
year, no, you, there's buzz in
the air.
709
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,400
There's, you know, there's just
this feeling that things might
710
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,000
get back to the way it was in.
That's that was my feeling going
711
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,300
in and when you just saw, how
many folks were there and I
712
00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:03,800
mean, we, you know, just people
seen excited and I know you can
713
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,600
see every year were football,
season, people are going to be
714
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,900
excited but it's just it's just
different this year than it has
715
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:11,100
been over the last really last
23 years.
716
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:13,700
Cheers.
Yeah, I think there's some
717
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:15,400
there's some fire back in the
program.
718
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,700
I think there's enthusiasm and I
think there's you know, it's
719
00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:25,100
mixed with cautious optimism.
I think there's not very many
720
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:27,700
people that think we're going to
have a very good team this year.
721
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:32,400
I think there's some some people
that think will win 8 games.
722
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:38,500
Maybe most most people are more
in the 527 range or like make a
723
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:45,100
bowl, you know, maybe get one.
Extra one in there and see what
724
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:47,200
happens.
I think that's realistic
725
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,000
considering our schedule and
considering, you know, some of
726
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,100
the pickups we had in the
offseason in the portal and some
727
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:57,200
of the some of the freshmen that
are going to be coming up and
728
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,600
step it up this year.
So it's going to be interesting.
729
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,700
But there is a buzz that I
haven't seen.
730
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:10,100
So I'll say this, I went to
Hardy would for the Country Club
731
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:13,400
North Carolina game.
So yeah, last year, first game
732
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,600
of the season, like there was
enthusiasm for it just because
733
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,600
it was like, all right?
Everybody's out kind of for the
734
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,800
first time in a long time.
Yeah, we're football related
735
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:30,200
event but there was not a lot of
excitement in terms of what was
736
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,500
going to happen.
A lot of people were very, very
737
00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:37,300
nervous about that game.
Obviously, it went our way.
738
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:44,200
We played, played a good game.
Game kept it clean and then that
739
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:50,500
really kind of helped helped
help carry the day but there's a
740
00:47:50,508 --> 00:47:53,300
different type of enthusiasm
there there isn't.
741
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:57,600
As much holding our breath that,
you know.
742
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,200
Yeah, disaster is around the
corner.
743
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:02,800
Absolutely.
And that's the feel you got.
744
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,200
There you again, it's the
renewed sense of hope.
745
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,800
It's like a spring.
The nation is review renewed and
746
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,300
when you know when hearing prop
talk which will talk about just
747
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:16,100
a couple minutes, you'll
understand why?
748
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:19,000
But let's talk real quick.
We got to talk to Bud Foster for
749
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,600
a compliment.
It's and we talked about
750
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,500
boundary Corner.
We are not going to mention what
751
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:26,400
he said because we want to have,
but on the show one day.
752
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,800
But let's just say it was very
interesting as we started
753
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,500
talking about players Bud, was
in, is in full retirement mode.
754
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:37,200
I am.
Now, I'm weird 30 years. 35
755
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,600
years from retirement, the way,
everything's going nowadays, but
756
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,100
I hope I'm like, Bud and living
my best life.
757
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:47,400
Like, he was one thing that my
man was living his best life.
758
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,400
He had folks Preen and drinks.
He was in head-to-head, the the
759
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,200
linen pants and the like
Hawaiian shirt be t-shirt on
760
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:02,100
like he was, he was full
lounging and I looked at it, I
761
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:06,800
was like, man if I'm retiring
like that And I'm doing all
762
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,300
right, because I had to get some
retirement tips.
763
00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:12,000
Like, you know, what's the
secret?
764
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,700
Because, yeah, he looks like
he's doing it.
765
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,400
The best doing it, the best and
the coolest part about.
766
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,500
But if you've never been harder,
when he was literally in this,
767
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:22,600
the middle of it and then if you
wanted to walk up and have him
768
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,100
sign something, I saw him sign a
couple things, he take your
769
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:29,700
picture, we snapped one with
them, of course. and just being
770
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:35,300
him masseter out there like, you
know, sometimes you see folks
771
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:39,400
You know, better famous in
public and I don't want to
772
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,200
bother him, it seemed like Bud
was there to talk to any hokey
773
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,200
that wanted to talk to him about
anything and anywhere.
774
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,800
He was ready to shake all the
hands and kiss all the babies,
775
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,000
he has ready to go and he was
fired up to support private was
776
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,800
fired at the sort of support the
program.
777
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,400
So that was that was big.
It was big and a guy like that
778
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,000
there that because he didn't
have to come to that one.
779
00:50:05,300 --> 00:50:07,700
No, he did not.
Not and especially, you know,
780
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:10,200
when was what Roanoke?
He didn't have to come to our
781
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,900
VA.
You never come to our VA
782
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:15,500
especially when you hear Mike
young had to plane which game
783
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:19,300
three and a half hour drive.
Actually four hour drive because
784
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:23,000
he's down at Crater Lake.
So long drive back home.
785
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,300
He had a big look, big drive
back, he wasn't a, it wasn't an
786
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:28,100
hour flight for him.
Nope.
787
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,000
All right.
Next, you know we had whipped
788
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,300
come up and talk with believe it
or not, got actually a good
789
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:39,400
ovation.
Some people's feelings of wit
790
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,500
might not like him but, you
know, talk it's big.
791
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:46,100
So I think a lot of people feel
good about Whit not talking
792
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:49,500
about football, but when we talk
about football, you know, people
793
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:51,500
get tight bundles about with, so
yeah?
794
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,000
Yeah, in fact and fair enough.
I mean they've got reason for
795
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,200
that.
I mean there has been You know,
796
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,100
missteps on that side of things.
He well let's go back.
797
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,800
First of all, his first missed
up was made when he got here
798
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,800
instead of addressing football
up front.
799
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,100
He addressed everything else.
People can see what you want to
800
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:14,400
say about the for when they hire
at that point in time.
801
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,800
That was a literally a top-three
tire.
802
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:23,600
Don't get it twisted, the 2020
2020.
803
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,900
Yeah.
The 2020 is worse than the
804
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:27,500
higher itself.
Yeah.
805
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,000
If your Pointed to things to
complain to with about extending
806
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,700
Fuente too early.
Yes not getting rid of him in
807
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:37,600
2020.
Those are the two two biggest
808
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,900
things that you can criticize
with about aside from not
809
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:44,200
addressing football sooner, but
also give him credit.
810
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,700
When things went sideways in
2018, readjusting his plan and
811
00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:52,400
getting the facilities.
Updated getting, 'if a
812
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,900
fast-track, the stuff that had
to be fast tracking if you
813
00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:59,100
wanted to actually build things
out, and he did, Again, we're
814
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:01,600
probably about one year behind
where we should be with Coach.
815
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,800
Whether that ended up netting,
us prai or Shane or Tony yelling
816
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,800
or whoever the hell it would
have been exactly what we're
817
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,600
about one year behind on the
rebuild.
818
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,300
But aside from that the other
stuff that when he, when he
819
00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:17,300
finally got around to it, he's
putting it together the way it
820
00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:20,300
needs to, and he did it.
Obviously, we all want things to
821
00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:25,900
happen yesterday because we care
about the team being something
822
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:28,300
to us and with all this stuff
going on.
823
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:33,200
On with realignment and ni L.
We feel like we don't want to be
824
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,700
one of those teams is Left
Behind.
825
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,000
We don't want to be the
leftovers.
826
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,700
Now I don't want to be leftovers
at all and he addressed it.
827
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:41,200
No talking about how complex the
situation is.
828
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,500
Realignment is said, it's
something that now is a
829
00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:48,700
conversation every day in
merryman about his previous top
830
00:52:48,700 --> 00:52:51,000
Cincinnati.
It was a conversation every day
831
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,600
there, so obviously it is up on
his mind on the Forefront.
832
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,000
He mentioned honest.
I alongs with, you know,
833
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,500
commissioner Phillips.
I'd like to hear what that
834
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:04,000
honest dialogue is.
I hope it's listen as soon as we
835
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,400
can.
We going to leave unless you do
836
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,600
something a lot better and you
need to get some more markets in
837
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,800
here.
That solidifying, our position
838
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,500
need to get better meteorites or
in three to five years.
839
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:20,400
You're looking at having fewer
members of this conference if
840
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,100
things line up.
Yeah, exactly.
841
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,000
If you're not, I mean, at some
point, we got to light a fire
842
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,300
under the Commissioners a stew.
Because I know he understands
843
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:33,300
the situation but if he's not
getting pressure every day.
844
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:39,400
Yes then in especially from
schools like Virginia Tech.
845
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:46,000
It doesn't matter if Florida
State or Clemson or Miami or
846
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,300
even you know UNC or in ceased.
I mean most of those schools are
847
00:53:50,300 --> 00:53:54,600
probably going to find a home in
whatever the new world looks
848
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,200
like.
It's The Fringe schools like
849
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,400
Virginia.
Tech like UVA like Louisville.
850
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:08,100
Like Georgia Tech that have good
markets, but, you know, have
851
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:11,100
some shortcomings in terms of
where their programs are at the
852
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:15,700
time that they're going to
probably need a little bit of a
853
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:19,400
boost and if we're not pushing
for it, then that gives us more
854
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,800
potential to get left behind
exactly.
855
00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:24,200
All right.
Something else he address talk
856
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,900
about while Brent prowls.
The guy, you know, made the
857
00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:29,800
comments that he The initial
bar, one of the initial goals
858
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,800
honours list would also made the
comment that he needed, Virginia
859
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,300
Tech how to get back to the
defensive mentality which was,
860
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:42,600
you know very very good to hear
from him because you think
861
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:47,900
Virginia Tech you think defense
you know the one thing in this
862
00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:49,800
was the ultimate shot right
here.
863
00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:53,100
Everything is better under
Brent.
864
00:54:54,100 --> 00:55:00,500
Yeah, I mean, yeah, and I mean
he's not wrong, I mean, but like
865
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:04,800
that's just he didn't say it,
but he basically back in should
866
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,200
have just went to a with that
like, everything that I'm sorry.
867
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:10,400
And I'll Circle back to the
defensive mentality.
868
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:15,700
Because when we look at the
teams, That are consistently
869
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:19,600
winning the national
championship and consistently
870
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,000
going to the college football,
playoff true.
871
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:24,400
Yes.
They do have some good offenses
872
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,300
in there.
It's particularly looking at
873
00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:33,600
like Ohio State you know Oregon
but all of them play either very
874
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,000
good or nasty defense.
Yep.
875
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:39,100
Right.
I mean, we do you think a
876
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:42,100
Clemson we think of Ohio State,
when we think of ago, when we
877
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:47,500
think of Bammel Bama obviously.
And any of the other guys in the
878
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:51,100
conversation, when you think of
them, you think of Defense first
879
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:52,900
and everything else is
secondary.
880
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,000
Ohio State might be the only one
that's probably in the, you
881
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,400
know, more or less balanced in
that category.
882
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:03,500
Maybe but I mean thing, I mean,
nasty and mean both of those
883
00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:04,500
young.
Oh yeah.
884
00:56:04,500 --> 00:56:06,400
I mean I'm saying hey Emily,
they have a lead.
885
00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:10,300
Offense and an elite defense.
They're just not they're not
886
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:13,000
stepping it quite up as much as
like a Bama on the defensive
887
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,900
side, I got you.
All right.
888
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:17,100
Well, the other thing, he's
talked about everything has to
889
00:56:17,107 --> 00:56:20,000
be built, right?
We agree with that you because
890
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:22,600
again, I think he saw what
happened in 16.
891
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,900
He did not build it right.
He, he extended somebody too
892
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:30,300
early.
He gave somebody too much leash,
893
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:35,900
so it has to be built, right?
And he hates the gave him so
894
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:37,800
much lead.
Is that he continuously hung
895
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,400
himself by not getting rid of
personnel?
896
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,100
That were not up to par?
Yeah.
897
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,400
Now, Brian, you love what he
said on the ni L you love when
898
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:54,900
he said, uh, Sadie's, hold the
NCAA, this entail shit, it's
899
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:58,400
going to affect recruiting and
they basically brush them off.
900
00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:03,700
The NCAA continues to just stick
their thumb up their ass on a
901
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:09,300
lot of the stuff, the NCAA had
over a decade to figure this
902
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:11,600
out.
They got to a point.
903
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,100
They got to a point where State
started passing laws.
904
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:18,200
So once so they kick the can
down the road.
905
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,800
Now, what states are passing
laws?
906
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:25,100
Now, they are worried about if
we put in stuff now, are we open
907
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:28,300
ourselves up to lawsuits?
So now they got scared in the
908
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:29,600
laws.
Suits that are like, well, if
909
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,200
we're going to do this, we just
got to have Open Season.
910
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,900
And now you got Open Season and
of course, it's being used to
911
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:39,500
recruit players what you think
he was going to do like zactly.
912
00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:42,900
But I just love hit like, it
sounds like the ades are out
913
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:45,100
there like, trying to push this
like get this done.
914
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:48,400
It's gonna Peck things and they
didn't do anything.
915
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,100
So put a, put a reasonable plan
out there instead of just
916
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:56,500
saying, all right.
Well, this is this is the thing
917
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:58,900
now.
Exactly figure out how it's
918
00:57:58,900 --> 00:58:02,000
going to be implemented within
your state legislator within
919
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,300
your conference Within.
School, like it's just a
920
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:08,400
cluster, and it varies from
state line to State Line and in
921
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,400
terms of what what teams are
doing.
922
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,200
It varies from school to school
and various from conference to
923
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,200
conference and it's not just
about the dollars, it's about
924
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:20,700
what is and is not permissible
because again, the NCAA didn't
925
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:22,900
give enough guidance.
Exactly.
926
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:27,100
All right, you know he did talk
about got to be miles within a
927
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:29,100
oh, we'll see how that plays
out.
928
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:31,700
But let's talk about events in a
few thing on Game Day experience
929
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:35,000
has he said the Wi-Fi, Is going
to be slightly better in Lane he
930
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,000
got he got class.
Yeah I need I need a definition
931
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,300
of that.
One day, one percent would be
932
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:46,100
better than zero or negative so
I'll give him that.
933
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,400
He also said that the the
restrooms the pictures are going
934
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,400
to be better - in peace.
Troughs, no no, no trolls are
935
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,600
fine.
You really want to make the
936
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,300
bathrooms better, put some TVs
in there on the wall.
937
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:06,100
So if it's, you know, the third
quarter, And we're driving or or
938
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:07,700
you know we just punted the
ball.
939
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:10,700
I don't worry about running to
the pisser and missing the game
940
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:14,700
because if you as you know you
go through the the walkways and
941
00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:18,400
go get a beer, so I'm not a big
ol bear now or get some food
942
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:21,000
their TVs there.
You can see the plays you don't
943
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,200
miss anything.
Except you know, that feeling I
944
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,900
want to be able to go to the
bathroom and if it's a longer
945
00:59:26,900 --> 00:59:31,500
line, if I'm in there taking a
piss, I can still see what's
946
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:34,000
happening on the field.
That's all I ask for after two
947
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,700
TVs, on each side, where the
troughs are exactly as you walk
948
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:42,700
in one above the trough, if you
got to go into the Stalls where
949
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:46,500
you just shit out of luck.
And one when you exit and you're
950
00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:48,300
shitting, so you definitely
ought to look.
951
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,700
You definitely have you might as
well as nobody wants to shit and
952
00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:51,700
Lane Stadium.
Let's go.
953
00:59:52,700 --> 00:59:55,300
Nobody wants to shit in any
public safety and just being
954
00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:56,900
honest about it.
Diagonally.
955
00:59:57,100 --> 01:00:00,700
All right, so with cheered, most
of the night and then he got the
956
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:04,400
boot, the end when he said,
stick it in would not be back.
957
01:00:05,900 --> 01:00:07,200
Yeah.
What the hell?
958
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,700
Why are we?
Why are we still doing this?
959
01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:12,800
Why are we why we're still?
We're still kicking.
960
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,000
Well, you know, it's your nasty
mind.
961
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,300
If you're thinking that way, I'm
trying to put the ball in the
962
01:00:21,300 --> 01:00:22,900
end zone.
People, what are you where are
963
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:23,900
you?
Where is your mind?
964
01:00:23,900 --> 01:00:28,400
Go, we are in the Red Zone.
Trying to get the ball in the
965
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,800
end zone for a touchdown.
Where are your minds at All you
966
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,200
people complain about it.
Where are your minds at?
967
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:39,600
I've heard that since 2003 and
I'll ever thought about it.
968
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,300
Oh, we're down here.
We're about to get it in, we're
969
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:44,800
about to score.
None of this other stuff you
970
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,600
guys mentioned.
So clearly those who are against
971
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:55,600
it are pervs, that's one way to
sell it Curtis.
972
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,900
Okay, it needs were in the red
zone.
973
01:01:00,500 --> 01:01:05,100
That's what it means.
It means we're about to stick it
974
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:07,800
in to the residence.
Exactly.
975
01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:12,100
All right, let's talk about
Brent pry, and him up on stage
976
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:14,900
with my keeper of who we got to
meet and talk to about five
977
01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:17,900
minutes.
Mikey, burn up is awesome.
978
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,900
He's bad, dude.
He is that dude.
979
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:25,100
Like, he is the guy, like, if
you say, you know, Game Day
980
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:29,300
weekend you could spend time
with, you know, any personality.
981
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,200
I know he's in the A booth the
game but Mike just seems like
982
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,500
the guy who owns it, he was
walking around.
983
01:01:35,500 --> 01:01:38,100
Look like he owned the place.
He's like 70 years old.
984
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:41,800
He looks, 55 looks in great
shape.
985
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,100
We gotta love my like burning,
man.
986
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:50,000
You just got to.
Yeah, he was tearing it up.
987
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,200
We had to talk to about five
minutes.
988
01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:56,500
Got got to tell him that.
He's good, buddy, Wes says,
989
01:01:56,500 --> 01:01:59,200
hello.
So yeah, he was, he was excited
990
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:04,500
about that and But I love my
keeper McMahon and hopefully
991
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:06,800
every day I think.
Now every of the Poke of, then I
992
01:02:06,808 --> 01:02:08,200
go to, I'm trying to find my
government.
993
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,800
Talk to him for five minutes.
Yeah, I definitely he's one of
994
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,600
the guys that you do.
You can have a beer with and
995
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:19,000
just talk about not just hokey
sports but just like anything in
996
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,700
general.
Like he's that guy that's going
997
01:02:20,700 --> 01:02:22,000
to have that conversation with
you.
998
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:23,300
Yeah.
Okay.
999
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:25,500
Well let's talk about another
guy.
1000
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:30,400
You want to share a beer with
Brent pry gets up on stage and
1001
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:36,500
it's it's immediate the energy.
It's a joke, it's on Twitter,
1002
01:02:36,500 --> 01:02:39,700
didn't Chad she he gets it and
he does get it.
1003
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:44,900
This guy gets it this get he's
up there horse himself a beer on
1004
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:50,300
stage you know just you know
been here eight months brings
1005
01:02:50,300 --> 01:02:53,600
out his wife to introduce a
cheers of the crowd, taking a
1006
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,000
panoramic selfie of the crowd
and sending it to recruits.
1007
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:02,800
I mean And, you know, he talked
about, he knew that this was the
1008
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:08,700
space because it was the fandom
and that was his cell point in,
1009
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:10,900
you know, it didn't feel like a
cell point though.
1010
01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:13,900
It felt like it was a genuine
response from him.
1011
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,800
And I mean, he was just having
fun up there.
1012
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,000
Yep.
During that interview portion,
1013
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,000
he was having a good time here.
Like I said, said, drinking
1014
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:29,800
beer, What I've noticed and I
hate to juxtapose this with with
1015
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:33,200
Flint a just because, you know,
I think we kicked we've kicked
1016
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,600
the dog enough at this point,
but we have the same people.
1017
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:40,500
He's previous, guys, you gotta
be a comparison but at the same
1018
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:45,800
time when we look at an event
like this and we had this like
1019
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,500
Q&A session with burn up, right?
So he's up on stage.
1020
01:03:48,500 --> 01:03:52,400
He's up there with burning up
there talking But pry is.
1021
01:03:53,900 --> 01:03:57,700
I'd say leading the discussion
just as much as my key is.
1022
01:03:57,700 --> 01:04:01,500
It wasn't my key directing him
where to go ask them the
1023
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:04,700
question getting the can answer
moving on.
1024
01:04:04,700 --> 01:04:10,200
Like Coach problems up there to
talk and to interact with the
1025
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,500
crowd and then also he was going
to answer some questions.
1026
01:04:14,300 --> 01:04:17,200
That might burn a pad form.
Yep.
1027
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,600
And you could tell that from
from the jump, I mean the the
1028
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,800
energy was just completely
different.
1029
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,200
Exactly.
And that's what it was.
1030
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,200
It was I'm not here to answer
questions.
1031
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:36,400
I'm here to talk to the fans.
It wasn't this wasn't an I'm
1032
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,300
just here so I don't get fine
situation this very very much.
1033
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,200
You know I'm here I'm selling
the program, I'm selling the
1034
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,600
program so I can sell the
program to recruits.
1035
01:04:47,700 --> 01:04:51,900
It's all cyclical.
When it all feeds into what we
1036
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:57,900
want as a team to Get to right?
So I think I think he
1037
01:04:57,900 --> 01:05:01,500
understands that it's, it's a
multi-pronged like being a head
1038
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:04,400
coach, has a multi-prong thing.
It's not just I've got to be
1039
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,400
good at managing a game.
I've got to be good at
1040
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:13,300
understanding X's and O's.
It's not just that it's so much
1041
01:05:13,300 --> 01:05:17,700
else and I think he understands
those those aspects of it and he
1042
01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:21,400
did a good job of selling those
things to the people that were
1043
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,600
there.
And I think a lot of it.
1044
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:26,800
As you said it's not just
selling its that's just how
1045
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,700
that's his personality.
He's a very energetic guy and
1046
01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:35,600
you said it too, he seems to
understand.
1047
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,400
When he's talking to people how
to talk to people, right?
1048
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:44,000
That's it and that goes.
Because if you remember what he
1049
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,900
was talking about, you know, he
talked about how he convinced
1050
01:05:46,900 --> 01:05:49,400
his family, that this was the
right move, they sons
1051
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,800
transferred to take from Penn
State since then, but then he
1052
01:05:52,808 --> 01:05:56,000
talked about his first, real job
was recruiting the staff.
1053
01:05:56,500 --> 01:06:01,100
And is we start looking at this
staff you know especially on the
1054
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:04,500
offensive side of the ball?
Yeah talking about Joe Rudolph
1055
01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:06,400
talking about Tyler, moans do
Holt.
1056
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,200
Fontelle mines, convincing them.
You can see it.
1057
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,500
And you know, you look at those
guys and you start hearing
1058
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:16,900
important, they are a plethora
of different personalities.
1059
01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:18,900
Yeah.
And I think that's a bigger
1060
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:21,300
cell.
It's because I think in general
1061
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:25,600
top to bottom.
Do you like the offensive staff
1062
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,200
better than the defensive staff?
How do you feel about the
1063
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,400
offensive staff?
The offensive staff?
1064
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,100
Man, I do like the offensive
staff more than the defensive
1065
01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:41,500
staff.
Just because as I start looking
1066
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,100
not to knock the defensive
staff, don't get me wrong
1067
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:49,700
between, you know, between JC
Mar cheetah and prioleau.
1068
01:06:49,700 --> 01:06:51,300
You've got a lot of years
experience.
1069
01:06:51,500 --> 01:06:56,300
Don't forget Quinn and Quinn,
it's only about Quinn.
1070
01:06:56,500 --> 01:06:58,900
I mean, we're not twins had some
recruiting wins.
1071
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:06,000
Wins breaking bread hokey Style,
I need to quit their Monday
1072
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,000
night when we were in those
wings and pizza to give us a
1073
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,900
review of those.
Yeah, means and pizza but but
1074
01:07:11,900 --> 01:07:14,700
when you look at it, you look at
that defensive staff.
1075
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:18,700
It's I'm gonna laugh, that's a
hokie defense of Staff.
1076
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,100
That's a super bright linebacker
coach.
1077
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:25,000
It's I mean, he's basically the
same age Bud was when he took
1078
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,500
over the job.
That is a grinder defensive line
1079
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:31,300
coach think about Charlie wild,
think about some of those guys
1080
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,000
that's our mole, right?
That's our mold.
1081
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,000
But then think about the
offensive staff in, you know,
1082
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,000
especially Joe Rudolph and I
love the white Vic because
1083
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:47,400
Dwight bic is looking at Joe
Rudolph and he C JB G. + JB G
1084
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,800
was the online coach back in the
90s who sort of, when we were
1085
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,400
power on the ball.
Kenny, oxendine and mashing
1086
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,200
people, he was that guy, look at
him.
1087
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,800
Look at bone, you know, still
hope left Louisville and one of
1088
01:08:00,808 --> 01:08:03,600
his good friends to come to
Brent pry.
1089
01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:08,700
Yep, it's this feel of.
That's what our defensive staff
1090
01:08:08,700 --> 01:08:09,600
is.
Always look like.
1091
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,100
And it's the looking at the
offensive staff is like it's
1092
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:16,200
never looked like this.
It's never looked like this.
1093
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:19,100
And Lord hasn't looked like this
in a long, long time.
1094
01:08:19,700 --> 01:08:22,200
No.
And I think that's that's a
1095
01:08:22,207 --> 01:08:25,600
difference is because from a
recruiting standpoint, if you're
1096
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,200
recruiting a staff, He had a
harder sell getting offensive
1097
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,000
guys to come here.
Then he would defensive some
1098
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,300
guys because he is an
established defensive coach.
1099
01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:37,399
He's one of the probably five
best defensive coordinators in
1100
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:43,300
the country as last year and you
know he was saying all right.
1101
01:08:44,300 --> 01:08:45,800
I'm a deep.
I'm a defensive minded.
1102
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,700
Head coach come coach defense.
For me.
1103
01:08:48,700 --> 01:08:50,800
That's not his heart of a cell
as it is.
1104
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,399
Hey, I'm a first-time head coach
in my 50s.
1105
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,500
That's a defensive specialist.
Come coach offense for me.
1106
01:08:58,899 --> 01:09:02,399
Exactly.
And it just shows you how the
1107
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:07,100
guy can talk to people.
Because he convinced you guys to
1108
01:09:07,100 --> 01:09:10,100
come and I mean, I'll say this,
I mean and, you know, I know
1109
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:13,100
there's other coaches that are
like this out there saving for
1110
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:17,500
one, obviously, but But you
know, Brent doesn't seem like a
1111
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:23,000
guy that's in his early 50s.
He's guys a lot more fire in the
1112
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,800
belly than a lot of guys that
are that age under percent.
1113
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:32,000
So and I tell you something that
he really had a fire passion
1114
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:36,000
about was talking about Virginia
recruiting Because when he made
1115
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,899
that statement that if we don't
know most about Virginia
1116
01:09:38,899 --> 01:09:40,500
recruits were not doing it
right.
1117
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,800
I mean, we hear that we see how
we've recruited Virginia this
1118
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,800
year and it looks like, you
know, he's still parking players
1119
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:57,400
from Virginia, you know, the the
whole Regional footprint recruit
1120
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,600
just it's not bullshit.
It it is literally that is his
1121
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,200
game plan because he feels like
if he can win this state and
1122
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,600
when the outer that six hour
radius and get good players,
1123
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:12,400
it's going to be the best case.
Scenario to rebuild the
1124
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:13,600
program's.
What it was.
1125
01:10:13,900 --> 01:10:17,100
Yeah.
And when we look at the the top
1126
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:22,200
25 players are so in Virginia in
this cycle you know?
1127
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,600
Other schools definitely had a
head start on us.
1128
01:10:26,900 --> 01:10:32,500
We're making our hey, in that,
you know, 12 to 22 range, 12 to
1129
01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:34,500
25 range, that's where we're
making our.
1130
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:40,600
Hey, right now, in terms of, in
terms of recruits, we, you know,
1131
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:44,400
looking forward, we got to get
back in the top 10 and I think
1132
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,800
some of that starts with, you
know, and he made an emphasis
1133
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,700
he's like we gotta we gotta get
Penn State out of this damn
1134
01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:52,500
State.
We got to get UNC out of this
1135
01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:55,300
state.
We got to keep more of these
1136
01:10:55,300 --> 01:10:59,500
Virginia kids home and you know
he was he was a part of doing a
1137
01:10:59,508 --> 01:11:03,500
lot of that making that ground
up in Virginia.
1138
01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:05,800
So I mean he understands what it
takes.
1139
01:11:06,700 --> 01:11:10,900
I'm hoping he can get the job
done as we look to the the 24 in
1140
01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:15,800
the 25 classes coming up the
next two years but he knows, he
1141
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,200
knows the blueprint.
He just we got to see if we can.
1142
01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:22,500
He can execute it, right?
Absolutely, it's something else
1143
01:11:22,500 --> 01:11:24,900
talking about.
Ooh, print and his leadership
1144
01:11:24,900 --> 01:11:26,500
styles.
He talked a little bit about the
1145
01:11:26,500 --> 01:11:29,800
Bristol Retreat, which we hit on
when it happened about a week
1146
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,000
after it happened, but something
that he said, said in there
1147
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,000
again, we knew that we heard
about.
1148
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,500
He wanted everybody on the same
page, same language the same
1149
01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:40,000
thing.
So if you walk from Pharrell,
1150
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:46,000
you know, bones office to, you
know, gouveia Windows Office,
1151
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,800
they're preaching the same
things.
1152
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,800
That was the first big thing,
but the other big thing was this
1153
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,200
and I don't know if you caught
it, but it, but it turned my
1154
01:11:53,300 --> 01:11:55,400
Because, what kind of leader is,
he talked about?
1155
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:59,100
He did a lot of the talking and
he said, next year, when we do
1156
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:01,500
this, I don't not, I do not want
that.
1157
01:12:01,900 --> 01:12:06,700
I want to hear from everybody,
because they took everybody,
1158
01:12:07,500 --> 01:12:09,700
which is crazy, literally,
everybody.
1159
01:12:09,900 --> 01:12:15,200
But, but when you hear that, in
a guy of a leadership position,
1160
01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:21,300
those guys usually, you know, as
long as they take what they hear
1161
01:12:21,300 --> 01:12:25,500
from everyone under them, Em and
start figuring out how to work
1162
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:27,900
it and how to make everybody
else successful.
1163
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:30,000
Usually those guys are the most
successful guys.
1164
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,700
Yep.
If you can drive that culture
1165
01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:37,600
and you can have that, that very
much top-down message, where
1166
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,200
what you hear from the top guys.
The same thing that you're
1167
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:45,000
hearing from the player
Personnel guy or even the video
1168
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,800
guy or like, if the message is
the same in the message is
1169
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,000
consistent.
Then the behaviors are going to
1170
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,700
be the same way.
And I'm done by the behaviors of
1171
01:12:54,708 --> 01:12:56,100
the players.
Yeah.
1172
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,300
Whether that's getting extra
work in.
1173
01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:02,200
Whether that understanding The
Playbook understanding, what you
1174
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,500
need to do in certain scenarios
whether that's getting an extra
1175
01:13:05,500 --> 01:13:11,900
workout, staying after practice,
all those things, those little
1176
01:13:11,900 --> 01:13:17,500
things that drive the culture
add up and getting that
1177
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:21,500
consistent messaging.
That consistent way of things
1178
01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:24,900
being taught and Is being
emphasized is going to be
1179
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:27,700
important going forward.
Because if you don't get the
1180
01:13:27,700 --> 01:13:30,900
foundation of that, right?
For the culture, then you're
1181
01:13:30,900 --> 01:13:33,800
going to start seeing cracks.
And I think that's, that's some
1182
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,200
of what happened with the
previous regime.
1183
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,000
Is that there wasn't a culture,
there wasn't a foundation.
1184
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,100
It was just a collection of
ideas that eventually fell
1185
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:46,200
apart.
And it's also the thing of what
1186
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,200
we talked about before, they
were there to coach and nothing
1187
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,600
else.
And with this staff, you kind of
1188
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,100
see it.
They're not there to just coach.
1189
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:59,100
They understand coaching is the
most important part of our job
1190
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:00,800
but it's not the only part of
our job.
1191
01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:04,700
And I'm not talking about
teaching the young men and you
1192
01:14:04,700 --> 01:14:07,700
know, helping them prepare for
themselves in life, but
1193
01:14:07,700 --> 01:14:11,000
understanding your part of a
larger Community, I think that's
1194
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,600
what this coaching group gets
more than anything.
1195
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,300
No Brian, let's jump over to
this because I want to, I want
1196
01:14:17,300 --> 01:14:20,200
to, I want to get your thoughts
first.
1197
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:24,000
He talked about it IO talked
about a lot of things on a nail,
1198
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:27,600
which one it you the most
listening to him.
1199
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:34,700
So I think him being a realist
about the ni L situation for
1200
01:14:34,700 --> 01:14:40,000
Blacksburg.
What was the thing because I
1201
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,500
don't think he could have went
in there and said, we're going
1202
01:14:42,500 --> 01:14:49,200
to be the the unc's and the
Miami's and the Clemson's on
1203
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,100
this ni L thing out the gate.
I think that's the goal.
1204
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:56,000
But I don't think that's
something that we're going to
1205
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,000
get to right away.
And he said that he doesn't want
1206
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,900
in il to be.
The reason that a player picks
1207
01:15:01,900 --> 01:15:06,700
Virginia Tech and I get that, I
think there might be situations.
1208
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,100
Oceans Where there would be an
exception to that depending on
1209
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:12,400
the player, depending on their
caliber, especially for an
1210
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:18,800
in-state player.
But in most terms, I don't want
1211
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,400
a player to pick Virginia Tech
just because they are giving the
1212
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,400
largest in il.
I, but as he said, we must be
1213
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,800
competitive.
We got to be in the ballpark.
1214
01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:35,600
So if somebody's getting
something from from pit, we got
1215
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,300
to say, all right, here's what
we can offer from an ni L
1216
01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:44,300
perspective from from from these
collectives here, but we also
1217
01:15:44,900 --> 01:15:50,500
sell in the University as well.
And you know, when we talk about
1218
01:15:50,500 --> 01:15:52,800
the reason, the player pick
something in il definitely is
1219
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,600
going to be in the discussion,
but there's got it wrong.
1220
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,600
It's going to be a piece of the
pie, right?
1221
01:15:56,700 --> 01:15:59,600
He can't even some player, some
players, it's a, it's a big.
1222
01:15:59,700 --> 01:16:02,600
Bigger piece, and some of the
smaller, it can't be half the
1223
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,800
pie, but, but it needs to leave,
you know, we know it's going to
1224
01:16:05,808 --> 01:16:08,300
be in there somewhere.
Well, he said we got to be
1225
01:16:08,300 --> 01:16:12,900
competitive in it and he said
and he just straight up called
1226
01:16:12,900 --> 01:16:15,800
out fans, old and young.
The line basically said, you've
1227
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,600
got to support the athletes in
some way.
1228
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:23,400
And, you know, we saw today with
Triumph and IL with Dax Dwayne,
1229
01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:26,000
Caleb.
Who my missing?
1230
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:32,700
I'm missing somebody.
Everything efforting.
1231
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,700
Yeah.
And I think, as you're speaking
1232
01:16:34,700 --> 01:16:37,000
on that, I think the big thing
that they've been focused on
1233
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,900
this offseason within IL is more
of Take care of you.
1234
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:43,000
The guys that are on your roster
right now.
1235
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,700
Yep.
Malaga Malaga.
1236
01:16:44,700 --> 01:16:47,600
I got delicate with.
Yeah.
1237
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,000
So I think I think that's been
the focus.
1238
01:16:50,700 --> 01:16:53,900
This offseason is kind of taking
care of some of that because
1239
01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:57,900
there wasn't that type of
foundation put in place it was
1240
01:16:57,900 --> 01:17:03,200
very much a it seemed like
before it was like here are some
1241
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,400
tools to help you within IL but
it was very much a, your own
1242
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,300
your own in terms of what you
are able to do with it.
1243
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:13,300
And now we've got collectives
that the school is actively
1244
01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:15,700
partner with.
And this is helping really
1245
01:17:16,700 --> 01:17:22,000
facilitate a better relationship
with those athletes from an ni o
1246
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,200
perspective.
And I'm hoping that we continue
1247
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,800
to build on that and Triumph is
doing a good job.
1248
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:32,300
Shout out be Hill and those
guys.
1249
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:37,300
Yeah that are part of that.
And yeah, we but we definitely
1250
01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:39,900
got to keep that moving forward.
And and those that have the
1251
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:44,000
Pasady to help with that.
You know, that needs to be
1252
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,900
something that's, that's going
out there just like me looking
1253
01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:51,300
to drive for 25 and I hope you
Starship fun.
1254
01:17:51,300 --> 01:17:55,400
I mean, if you're not doing it,
we're going to get left behind
1255
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:02,100
very true, not not saying that.
You know, it's got to be the
1256
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:05,800
first and foremost thing, the
most important thing.
1257
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,800
But but as process, we got to be
competitive.
1258
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,100
It got to be, we're not going.
If we're not competitive, we're
1259
01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:13,100
going to keep falling behind
true.
1260
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:15,900
All right.
Well Brian, let's as we start
1261
01:18:15,900 --> 01:18:19,400
wrapping up here tonight, we
actually got the opportunity.
1262
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,400
We stood in line.
We're fans you, we met the head
1263
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,200
coach.
We were there was probably
1264
01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:30,100
three, four minutes, talk with
him, cleaned a little beer, With
1265
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:34,000
him in what you said earlier.
About the recruits, you felt
1266
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,500
with us because the gentleman
before us, he wanted him to send
1267
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:40,200
a video to a friend, right?
And he got on the video and he
1268
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,900
did it with us.
We just we just shot to shit
1269
01:18:43,900 --> 01:18:47,300
with him and it just felt like a
buddy, you know, he claimed the
1270
01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:49,900
Bears with us.
We, you know, said three or four
1271
01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:52,700
things here and there and he's
just having a conversation with
1272
01:18:52,700 --> 01:18:58,500
us.
It felt so it didn't feel like
1273
01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:02,600
he was trying to do it.
He just felt like he looked at
1274
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,000
us and said these are a couple.
Say what we are.
1275
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,600
We're probably 30 year old guys
out for a night together.
1276
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,200
Have some fun hokey fans.
I'm a I'm going to have fun with
1277
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,100
them.
Yeah, it was awesome.
1278
01:19:16,700 --> 01:19:17,800
Yeah.
I mean, he definitely
1279
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,900
understands how to read the
people that he's interacting
1280
01:19:21,900 --> 01:19:25,200
with when he when he talks about
building relationships.
1281
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:31,700
I think being a guy that can
read folks quickly and and
1282
01:19:31,700 --> 01:19:35,300
understand how to approach them
that that's a skill.
1283
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,000
And a lot of times it's a skill
that's very hard to learn and
1284
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,400
he's got it.
You know whether that translates
1285
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,100
to two more wins on the
recruiting Trail Forest, long
1286
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:50,800
term is to be seen but in terms
of just interacting with the
1287
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:55,500
fans and being the type of coach
that gets the fanbase
1288
01:19:55,500 --> 01:20:01,600
enthusiastic about what they're
doing, I mean we got a winner on
1289
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:06,700
that front.
So we'll see if we can keep Keep
1290
01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:10,400
the wind's coming as we roll
into the season on that front
1291
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,400
but it's true.
Well, I think as we were I can't
1292
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,500
remember.
I said it to you give the guy
1293
01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:19,700
six years.
I mean, because we are in a
1294
01:20:19,700 --> 01:20:21,900
rebuild.
We're in a very tumultuous time.
1295
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:24,800
You can't give him three years
and expect him to be at nine.
1296
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,400
Ten wins a year.
If he doesn't wonderful, if it
1297
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,500
doesn't, I'm in for the Long
Haul with this one.
1298
01:20:32,300 --> 01:20:34,900
But another thing notice Pronto,
we had our moment.
1299
01:20:34,900 --> 01:20:37,100
We talk with him because
Minutes, we went on, we got our
1300
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:38,700
dinner.
He was there.
1301
01:20:38,700 --> 01:20:41,500
Good.
Our he did not have to be there
1302
01:20:41,500 --> 01:20:45,000
after after he finished speaking
after he finished and just
1303
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,900
talking to people taking
pictures sign and having a
1304
01:20:47,907 --> 01:20:49,900
conversation.
Just again, that's where we
1305
01:20:49,900 --> 01:20:55,000
noticed.
Whoever you were is who he was
1306
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,800
going to adapt to it.
I think that's why he's such a
1307
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,900
good recruiter because he is
going to adapt and figure out
1308
01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:05,000
what's my Baseline for you?
What's my Baseline for you?
1309
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:09,000
Yeah.
I'm still going to be me, but
1310
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,400
I'm going to figure out what
part of me and you connect the
1311
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,500
best.
And when you have a guy like
1312
01:21:13,500 --> 01:21:17,600
that, you know what, you always
say brown bat for one day, if
1313
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,500
Wednesday would have just had a
little personality, he would
1314
01:21:19,500 --> 01:21:24,300
have got a little more Slack.
Prai has the personality and if
1315
01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:27,200
we win something like six game,
if we only won five games, I
1316
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,800
think some people are going to
say he walked into a shitty
1317
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,000
situation.
This year, you know, the
1318
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,900
recruiting Bridges have been
burned all over the state all
1319
01:21:34,900 --> 01:21:37,300
over the region.
This guy's got to rebuild job to
1320
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:39,500
do.
Yeah, yeah.
1321
01:21:39,500 --> 01:21:42,400
Bridges burned.
All over the State roster in
1322
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,200
shambles.
It's a bad one.
1323
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,000
Two punch, right?
You got you had to rebuild a
1324
01:21:48,008 --> 01:21:50,400
roster, but you also have to
rebuild the relationships to
1325
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:54,900
help you build that roster.
So he's doing a good job of
1326
01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:57,500
laying that Foundation that
we're talking about birth from a
1327
01:21:57,500 --> 01:22:00,600
culture standpoint and from a
relationship standpoint with
1328
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:05,200
players coaches, all the all the
folks in the state and all the
1329
01:22:05,208 --> 01:22:08,100
folks in the footprint.
So I think we're on the right
1330
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track from that perspective, you
will see long term how the fit
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is, but I think in terms of just
You know who he is, as a coach.
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And that that side, I think we
got to, we got to hit here.
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We got a big hit here.
All right, Brian.
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Anything breaking over the last
little while here.
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I don't see anything man.
I think we're good.
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All right, let's wrap it.
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Okay.
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast, I am Curtis
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Wilson, I'm Brian seagull, but
if you live here on a Wednesday
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night we got some there's some
drinks.
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This time we got some some fun
stuff to talk about.
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Especially for Monday night, we
have a lot of stuff to talk
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about drinks this time.
Yes.
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Proudly from Monday night
holding the VT food and science
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technology kuzey, We picked up
the swag.
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Why all sorts of swag from
Monday night man, we're going to
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get that into that on the back
end because there's so much to
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unload their.
We forget about a lot of other
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stuff.
If we didn't come, I had a super
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long day, Ron it takes only
about it, man, tell me when I'm
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done with you guys.
This morning going to be in
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meetings all day and I was and
have some family in from out of
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town and man we did some steaks
or heat is on the grill tonight.
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Right?
Homemade peach ice cream.
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I prefer banana.
I lost.
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He chose ice cream eat.
Oh man.
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So that's some Halifax.
You right there, homie?
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Yeah.
It's a great thing but after all
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that after my crazy day and I
know you've been busy too.
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I completely missed her.
Jim Phillips ACC press
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conference so big guy.
The floor is yours to inform me
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of what the hell happened?
Well, Jim Phillips got up there
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and he kind of sang Kumbaya for
a little bit.
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He's trying to talk about the
all the neighborhood should be
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able to have success and we
should all do what's right for
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the kids and keep the kids in
mind.
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And you know, It was kind of
like there was some decent
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points in there, but it was
mostly kind of fluff in
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bullshit.
I mean, I think the overarching
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theme is that, you know, he is
keeping options open, whatever.
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That means.
Hopefully, that means adding
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members and renegotiating the
meteorites in terms of the, the,
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the number.
Okay?
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We need to be closer to that 40
mil versus that lower end of the
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30s.
That's what needs to happen.
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I don't know if that's going to
be what ultimately comes through
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with this.
But I feel like this was a talk
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that if it was had five years
ago, it might have landed
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better.
But it's one of those things
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where?
Here's here's how things it's
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the should be versus the
reality, right?
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So right now he's saying this is
how things should be, but but in
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reality, they're not.
So if you're not addressing
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reality, it doesn't really
matter how things should be.
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I need someone that's having
practical Solutions not Pie in
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the Sky dreams of what this
thing should be.
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I think we're beyond that at
this point.
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This ain't college football in
Utopia anymore.
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This is what it sounds like to
me.
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Yeah.
That ship has sailed loving.
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It's gone.
You know, we're talking about it
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being driven by money and that's
not a good thing.
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It's been driven by money for
over a decade.
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Really, if we're talking about
it for real started, 30 years
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ago, and it's been a rocket
ship, the last decade there in
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there.
It's not slowing down.
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No, it's not.
It would, if you did, if you
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think it's slowing down, you're
being naive, you're being super
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nice.
Well, thank you for that.
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So it sounds like I didn't miss
much, but an overarching theme
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of either he's playing nice or
he has no clue and I hope it's
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the first not the second for the
Hokie sake.
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I'm hoping he's saying things
publicly but but doing what
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needs to be done on the back
end, we will be saying the nice
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stuff publicly and just getting
and pulling out all the women.
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I'm hoping he learned something
from the Big Ten last year and
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that they said the right shit.
But then in the meantime, they
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were negotiating Dating getting
to schools from the Pac-12 from
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the alliance to join their
conference table.
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They pulled the knives and just
started sticking people left and
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right.
Well Brian let's talk.
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We were talking about this real
quick.
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Can or the Big Ten or the Big
12.
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The Big Ten in the SEC again
long day for me.
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So I stumbled a night y'all.
It is what it is.
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The only way to the ACC can get
out of Grants of right.
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Deal is to have 18 s.
Correct date not 784 a full
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majority basically.
Leave the conference Are there
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18 s that are attractive enough
to the Big Ten in the SEC where
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they would do that?
I think combined.
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Yes but I don't there's the
problem is there's a lot of
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coordination it'll happen to
have to happen because you would
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have to essentially have the SEC
and Big Ten colluding to have
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all these schools pull out of
the ACC at the same time?
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Well, I don't think the FED
would like that.
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That's That's someone that does
that does sound, you know, I
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don't think that's above board
but mean a lot of stuff that
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goes down isn't above board.
Hell, yeah, whether it's the
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basically legal insider trading
that pretty much every
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Congressman does or any other,
you know, stuff that goes down
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like that.
So, I mean, I could see it
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happening.
I don't know if it will happen
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right now.
The grant of rights is the
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biggest firewall that the ACC As
and it's a pretty good one.
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As long as they don't have a
teens that are willing to pull
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out at one time and I mean, when
you look at it, there are
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potentially a that could go if
the Big Ten and SEC tried to
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move all at one time.
And if they don't do that, then
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it's going to be piecemeal and
it won't be enough to get a
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grant of rights in which case, I
don't think the ACC those
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dissolves until the end of that.
Period.
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Well, I don't think one period.
I don't think it's the end of
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the period I don't, but I don't
think it's 14 years away because
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14 years.
I don't think they, I don't
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think they pull out any earlier
than two or three years ahead of
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that though.
Yeah, so I mean, we're talking
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that's a decade so because
because, if we're talking about
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that, because with grant of
rights is essentially saying,
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I'm picking up this conference,
I've already paid the new
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conference or the school is
already going to pay the extra
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departure fee.
Which is 100 top of that.
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You cannot broadcast the rights
for that those games, unless you
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pay it unless you pay us.
Yeah, so that's the big sticking
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point is that what's the point
of moving early, especially
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earlier, than one or two years,
unless you're willing to swallow
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that?
And what's the point of the SEC?
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Or the Big Ten to, even pull the
trigger on that they could just
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say with the elite conferences,
right now, right?
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We have 16 teams were dead.
Tian, our way into the playoff.
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We're probably going to create
their own playoff.
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What's the reasoning for us to
go after someone in basically
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hand, if they go after four
teams a piece and basically hand
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a conference, what probably 400
million dollars a year give or
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take?
Yeah, I mean, it's going to be
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interesting to see how this
shakes out.
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I think in the in the interest
of everybody, it would be better
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if we had For conferences, when
all was said and done instead of
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two.
But if I heading towards to the
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thing that I'd say, there's, you
know, the firewalls protecting
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the ACC but in some ways it
could hurt the ACC because if
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the SEC decides it wants to
start expanding more, And now
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market-wise it's going to look
at the bigger markets.
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It wants the North Carolina
market, it wants the Virginia
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Market but there's also some
markets out west and in the the
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middle of the country that are
in Big 12 and Pac-12 territory
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that they might Target in the
meantime, what does that mean
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for the ACC long-term do more
schools?
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Get left out long-term because
the SEC expands into these other
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markets in the meantime because
they have less.
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Less of a firewall.
So they can actually go and, and
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poach them a little bit sooner.
Well, the Midwest is tough,
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though.
The Midwest to me, the Midwest
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is dead to the SEC in the Big
Ten.
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The to one, or two teams.
Notwithstanding.
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Yeah, one team to team.
Maybe dip.
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Maybe if you didn't Phillips.
Right now, we already said it to
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me.
He has to go, fishes.
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And obviously, Does geography
matter anymore?
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No, no, you got to go vicious.
You got to look at market and
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you've got to look at good
athletic departments and you
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know to me you just go in the
Northeast Corridor of the
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country.
You look at Oregon, you look at
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u-dub, you look at Stanford.
If Cal wants to come maybe right
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there.
You've got the number 9 tv
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Market the number 70 me market
in the number 20 TV Market.
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Immediately more eyes if the ACC
also thinks about it and this is
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also something you can push to
ESPN and others where you can
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renegotiate your contracts.
If you go get those teams,
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you're almost guaranteed a non
30 slot.
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So there is an extra football
game on that, you're going to be
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able to pull probably where no
other conference can.
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And if you have extra games,
what does that mean?
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Ryan, No paper, especially if
you got it in those markets that
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are numbered, you know, pretty
big markets and actually pretty
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well-known poet well-respected
teams.
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So, you know, to me, he's just
got to go Scorch, the Earth,
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burn it, get what you can Notre,
Dame's a pipe dream because I
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think Notre Dame's going to get
some.
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I think CBS is after losing the
SEC deal.
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My opinion is CVS.
Is going to throw in asinine
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number at Notre Dame?
Yeah, I don't think they get
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that.
What?
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It was?
70 75 million that they were
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talking about but I think they
get somewhere in the same
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ballpark with with the big, with
the SEC and maybe even above
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that, depending on, you know,
where they end up Landing there.
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I mean, they're going to get a
lot of money.
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Yeah.
They're they're at least going
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to land somewhere, right?
Around 50.
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Probably higher.
Because CBS is going to be
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starved for college football on
Saturday.
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So they're going to probably get
in b.c. in a price War.
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And if you get them in a price
war, I'm going to say that.
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What do we say to deal with
right now?
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It was 22, 23 24, 24, 20 times.
They triple, I think it can be
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triple.
I think it's at least gonna
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double up, you know, I and
they've got they've got the
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bargaining power right now,
because they've got the layer.
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All the, all the numbers are
going up and they got the
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leverage and they are a draw in
and of themselves.
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So they are unlike so many.
I mean there's only a handful of
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teams out there that are the
television draw that Notre Dame
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is.
And that's despite, I mean,
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they've had, you know, good runs
here but they haven't really had
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an Elite Squad here in a while.
So Salt Lake Bama, that's
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prevalent perennially in the
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discussion.
Truth, although they've been to
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the playoffs twice in five years
so they have they have but I get
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I get your drift on.
I get your drift on that.
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So I don't think that Domino's
going to fall because I think
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somebody's going to pay out
their ass for it and it's
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probably going to be worth it in
the long run for them.
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So there that is.
We've been on for 15 minutes and
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I haven't even talked Hokies yet
so let's jump to some Mochi
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stuff here and brought let's
start.
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We some staff updates were made
back about six days ago and some
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interesting moves.
Let's start with Jerome gouveia
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Winslow moving from player
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joining Brian, Chris joining
Xavier joining Jeff Carpenter
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doing carry well.
Web along with one more person.
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We're going to talk about here.
I don't see this as a shock.
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No, jgw was coaching down at a
smaller school.
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He obviously has aspirations to
coach at a high level.
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To me, the player Personnel to
springboard.
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Yeah, that was, that was getting
his foot in the door at his alma
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mater.
This is him getting closer to an
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on-field role, you know, you can
say, whether you consider it a,
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you know, a bump up in, Terms of
role that that's questionable,
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depending on where you are, and
what your aspirations are.
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But it is, aspirations are to be
an on-field coach, that, this is
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definitely a jump for him, a
move up the ladder for him, so
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good for him, good for him.
You know, he got some, he always
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got some aligned grief back in
the day, but he was a solid
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player, not the most physically
gifted, but definitely a good
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football player.
And then Brian, there was one
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more dish into the analyst
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Jan Johnson, who played under At
Penn State team captain back in
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2019, spent a year on the
practice squad down at the
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Titans.
Also honorable, mention
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All-American, and some
All-American.
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All honorable mention Big Ten
honors from every other little
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story story on him at the yes we
did.
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Yes, we did about that later
with Janet Johnson talking about
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Joe Rudolph, but that gives us
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Now, So you've got we already
mentioned Chris Xavier, Jeff Jan
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carry and jdw.
Obviously a hell of a lot bigger
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than last year.
I mean, especially only analyst
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side.
Oh yes, significantly.
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Bigger on the analyst we're plus
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The the recruiting staff side
player Personnel side.
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But we're we're in the big plus
territory on the analyst side.
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And what that's going to do a
it's you always keep saying it
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Brian we're out of Mom and Pops
were getting we're not, you
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know, massive brain yet but when
you have six, when you have
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really probably one guy that's
probably going to go back and
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forth I'm assuming that's
probably gonna be Chris calling
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them.
Go back and forth and Webb's
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going to be your special teams
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What it does and buying you've
mentioned it before coaches,
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aren't going to have to spend as
much time in the film room.
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Let's time of the film room.
You got guys that you can trust,
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it's looking at stuff like that.
They're giving you notes.
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They're saying, all right.
Here's here's where this player
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needs to work on next practice.
Here's what this player needs to
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work on next practice.
Here's, here's what this
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upcoming opponent does.
Well, here's what they don't do.
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Well.
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And then they can explain how
that is going to help you and on
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the field and that these are
guys that you trust with this
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type of role versus having, just
like, you know, an intern doing
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stuff like that.
And then you have to go back and
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all right, well, he made these
notes but I've got to still
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analyze.
What, what was on the tape and
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then apply that.
These are guys, you can trust in
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that type of stuff, to, to
analyze the, the tape itself and
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and give you a boost.
Going into a game prep week or
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something like that, going into
the season.
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So that's big more eyes on
tapes, means more catches more
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fixing of issues.
That's the one part.
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I like about it is when you have
a rough game having that many
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analysts the coaches, don't have
to be there.
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The coaches can trust them to
figure out what's wrong.
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They can get on the field and
actually coach correctly,
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correcting.
Those are so love it.
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Hopefully next year We get
eight, maybe more.
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Yeah, we definitely need to keep
keep moving forward.
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I think, you know, this this is
this is a big jump for her where
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we were but we're still probably
just middle of the pack in terms
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of the ACC overall in terms of
the number of roles here.
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So we definitely need to get in
at least in that.
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Upper third.
If not in the top two or three
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now one other real quick note
concerning some additional
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players, we've got a list here
on go through really cool to see
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a guy like A.J Hampton.
Who grew up in Roanoke went to
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board by the taught played down.
It Emory & Henry played at Mount
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Union and spent some time at
Florida State, really cool to
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see.
He got a g a position here to
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further his career.
So awesome for that young man
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and then Brian Carolyn Wilfred
we have a new role of director
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of player engagement. so, We're
engaging the players.
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I mean, it's great, we got
another new role which is always
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awesome.
But is this, is this just
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keeping the kids focused on
grade, keeping the fifth focused
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on outside stuff?
I'm going to be interested to
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hear more about this role
because she had done some
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athletic advising pre this.
So I'm very interesting how this
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role shapes of this.
One of those Goodwill roles or
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if it's something different.
Yeah, I mean, she did allowing
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on the support staff, Support
Services student athlete.
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Support Services, team before
that.
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Yeah, I think what she was in
director of football,
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operations, director of football
operations before, getting this
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role.
So, you know, I don't know if
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this is going to look like on
paper or in practice, but I like
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that.
We're specializing.
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Yes, more on the off field staff
whether it's recruiting or other
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forms of player engagement off
the field.
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Yeah.
She was a assistant director of
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the saas S.
So yeah, also a tech Alum that
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are degree back in 2017.
So good for her, obviously with
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the veil wenzhou joining the
analyst day.
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Hokies were able to hire another
player Personnel.
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His name is Alex Jones.
Where do you think he
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potentially serve his capacity
in a role similar?
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You know, I don't know, man.
It's either Penn State marshal
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or somewhere like that.
He actually did some work like
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this back in Marshall and 2019.
He's a one of the Villa Grotto.
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He's another government.
Exactly.
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What's more important about
this?
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You know, obviously has a
background relationship.
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There is available in.
Zoe moved on the immediately.
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Back, filled his role that role
isn't empty, we're in the past.
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What are we seeing?
We seeing somebody?
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Leave a role.
The role never gets filled.
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Yep, that is what I like seeing
on this.
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Yeah, somebody would move up, or
somebody would move on.
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And then a roll with sit on
occupied, at least in terms of
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official announcement for months
at a time.
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Yeah, even if somebody was doing
it for me, Lee or informally in
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the interim.
We wouldn't really actually have
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Any sort of noted press release
on this for four months and
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months at a time and now we're
getting it, you know right
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shortly after you know things
are going down on the on the
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front end there.
So that's that's a good thing.
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They're definitely more
consistent with the press
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releases will consistent with
communication.
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Above all the staff off the
field is organized, and
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operating very true.
And then, obviously, they added
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one more.
Let's see.
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Rob Branch look first year and
had done some time at West
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Virginia state.
So obviously a smaller School
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plated, J mu.
But again, we take a look at
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that play.
A Personnel room, and do we
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lose?
I'm trying to think that we lose
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somebody few months ago, or is
this an additional position to
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that.
That's a good question.
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Let me see.
We got Mike, we've got robbed
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Alex and Lino.
So, did they gain one today?
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Used to be three out there used
to be three.
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I think it's for now.
Okay.
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If if somebody out there knows,
please let us know because I
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swear this was less than it was
a few months ago I started I
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just you know I need to keep an
Excel spreadsheet and delete and
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then we're is John Earl.
We need him one more summer.
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Rodriguez an assistance of
Creative Media in.
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Obviously, I'm gonna just say
this, she, she's going to be
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working with Zach, Lance tackle
and has done a hell of a job
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with the Creative Media stuff.
I mean, get getting that man.
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More help is going to make the
product look even better.
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She did some time as a graphic
designer out at University of
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Colorado, which is really Be
cool and she was a student there
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and she did she was a recruiting
assistant in terms of obviously
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Serena's got her foot in the
door up football, but I just
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love seeing Zack Steven grow
because it's I feel like that
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department in the last 18
months.
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Has really just like just went
through the roof, how things?
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Look visually how the videos or
cut.
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It's awesome to see that.
Yeah, and they and I really like
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the the graphics that they have
Pivoted to for the 23 class and
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a lot of the other things
they're doing as well, because I
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feel like that it kind of gotten
stale.
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There was a lot of like, the
20-20-20 stuff that kind of bled
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over into 20, 21 and 20 and 22
and it kind of got got same ish.
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And I feel like this is kind of,
I think the more hands on deck
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is made the creative side of it
a lot easier because when you
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can When you have more hands,
you can more easily Implement
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different ideas without having
to just plug in play to get to
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get the job done.
So, Abso-freakin'-lutely.
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So again the support staff
growing significantly in the
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last few years, something we
knew that had to happen for.
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That's awesome to see I Brown.
Let's turn to the diamond real
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quick and have a quick look five
Hokies get drafted for in the
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first five rounds, Gavin cross
the diamond going number 9, to
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the Royals.
Because I mean all year, he's a
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top ten pick, he's a top ten,
pick it, it holds, True show
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will go 68 to the twins.
Bisson, fourth round to the
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Dodgers.
Kate hundred to the Reds and
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then Graham Arvid, I just put
your debt name.
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I know.
Sorry Graham.
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So you just admit your mistakes
and you move on.
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There we go.
Awesome to see that.
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Not only that couple of those
really the first four guys are
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really going to get paid a
significant amount of Gavin and
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Tanner are going to get a boat
on money.
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No one slot.
I know Gavin slots like five and
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a half.
I want to say Tanner's or
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somewhere around too.
Likely not going to get the full
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payment going to get a lot of
money so great for them
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financially.
But just in general for the
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program, you sit here and just
two years ago.
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Team didn't even make the ACC
tournament.
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They didn't make it this year.
One of the best teams in the
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country and this is one of those
things that can get you rolling,
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right?
We had a great season and guys
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are getting drafted, it's an
easy sell Yeah I think that's
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the big thing is that this is
going to be a good seller.
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Recruiting Trails like hey you
come here you know you're going
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to get a bump in your draft
stock by coming here and
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spending time as a hokey and
with baseball I think that
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that's such a big big thing with
you know a lot of these kids
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getting some of them getting
drafted out of high school and
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making the decision.
Okay.
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Do I go Take the scholarship
offer that I have do.
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I go ahead and try to give it a
run in the minors.
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Hey, you come here, you spend 23
years here.
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You know, you're going to set
yourself up for a better spot
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down the road.
Yeah, and he, and nowadays in
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college baseball because of the
draft only going to 20 rounds.
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It is significantly, helping
keep players.
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00:27:03,100 --> 00:27:06,500
Committed to their scholarship.
So, how you recruit?
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00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:10,100
Now, it's even more important
because, you know, roughly only
425
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:12,100
about 600 guys are getting
drafted.
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A lot of them, you know,
probably more than half of them.
427
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Maybe 60% or college guys,
because they've already got the
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00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,300
proven record versus the
potential and high school guys,
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you know, which is really cool.
So again that program building
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even though it's a non-revenue
sport, it's Again, what do we
431
00:27:33,008 --> 00:27:34,900
always say?
Brian, it's one of those sports
432
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:38,600
like wrestling, probably getting
close like women's basketball,
433
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,700
where it pays for itself, more
money back to football.
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00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,100
Yeah, I mean, it's some prestige
in that to I mean, this is, you
435
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:51,100
know, College World Series.
Conference playoffs.
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00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:55,200
I mean a lot of these that those
championships get a lot of air
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00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,700
time.
So it's not like you know, a lot
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of the sports that you might see
on a random weekday on the SEC
439
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,200
network.
These are getting some some
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Primetime spots on ESPN, on
ESPN2, on the SEC network.
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So it's important to to grow the
sport in that, In to grow your
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00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,100
your department in those words
as well that are getting that
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00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:29,100
are time, okay?
All right, Brian, this is going
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00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:31,000
to be a little segment this
week.
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What really grinds Brian's
gears?
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00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:41,300
You have the floor sir.
Okay, so you know we trash the
447
00:28:41,300 --> 00:28:46,100
NCAA pretty regularly on this
show that's not a secret to
448
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:51,900
anybody that's listening but
this this is the thing that
449
00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:54,200
bothers me the most about the
NCAA.
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00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,000
So you know we're we're in a
situation where you got Mass
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realignment, you got ni L, + IL
stuff going on all crazy, the
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00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,900
NCAA washes, their hands.
But the the rules committee
453
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,900
found it in their in their time
to as they're looking at the
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00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:16,500
game and try to figure out how
to make the game better.
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00:29:17,300 --> 00:29:21,900
If there was something that just
was taking away from the quality
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00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:27,800
of the game Polly of baseball
and that is celebratory props on
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00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:33,300
the field.
So that means Hammer Time
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00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:40,300
potentially is no more and It's
just fucking stupid.
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00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,100
It's still, it's stupid.
There's no other way to say it.
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00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:48,400
So why are, why is this thing?
We're focusing on say it, moron,
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00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,700
you're a moron.
What are we doing?
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00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:58,200
I mean, we get we get all of
this stuff that we're going on.
463
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,200
That you should be, you know,
that you are a governing body
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00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,300
that you should be focused on.
And I'm not saying you can't
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00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:07,100
focus on multiple things at one
time, I get that.
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00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:10,300
Yes, but when you're not
handling, the big stuff.
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00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:12,600
I can't take this small shit,
seriously.
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00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:18,000
Nope, they shot.
You just bring the hammer out.
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00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,600
What are they going to do?
I mean, seriously, what are they
470
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,600
going to do?
They have no spine.
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00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,200
They have no backbone.
How many at this point called?
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00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,200
They're bluffing, I mean, they
really have no, no Authority
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00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,900
anymore.
What are you going to do?
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00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:37,500
All right, Ron, let's turn it
over to recruiting had a commit
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land on Monday, right above
where we were heading over to
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00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:46,700
Hardy would an RV a product at a
Collegiate School.
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00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:55,400
Christian William 62, 170 247,
has him as a 87 3 star the
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00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,200
number 14 player in the state at
the moment.
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00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:04,000
Ted currently sits 36 in both
composite and overall and you
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00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,400
know, just kind of having a look
right now.
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00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:13,400
This is our highest commit to
date from the state of Virginia.
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00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,500
Brian, I know you had a little
time to Peak at him.
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00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,200
What are we seeing from this?
Again?
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00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:23,000
Athlete lot, more athletes this
year being recruited.
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00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,600
Yeah, he's probably going to be
a wide receiver for us, more
486
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,700
than likely just looking at the
Tate.
487
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,800
You know pretty good route
Runner.
488
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,000
Not Elite Speed but good enough
I really like that.
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00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,600
We are targeting a lot of lot
more guys that are that 61 and
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00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,600
above.
We get to get a little bit more
491
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:51,800
range across the board and I
like his hands.
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00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,300
He has a pretty good hands.
You shown the ability to go up
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00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:56,600
and get a ball and high point
it.
494
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,200
Good job of catching over the
middle.
495
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:03,100
Not not, not afraid to get you
over the middle leaving it. 170.
496
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:07,800
So I like it, you know, it's not
it's not a blow, your skirt up,
497
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,800
get but you could get it's one
of those things.
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00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,300
That's keeping the train moving.
Yeah.
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00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,500
Keeps the train moves and good
potential 24/7.
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00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:22,000
Thanks a lot more of him than
the rest of the recruiting
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00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,900
service because he's down an
eighty five.
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00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:27,300
Seven two point eight, five
seven so you kind of start doing
503
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:30,000
the math there's somebody's out
here is had him at like an 83
504
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:35,800
and you know I think just from
hearing you, he's not quite that
505
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,800
low, he's not closer to a 2 Star
than he is potential High 3.
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00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,900
And Brian you just mentioned it.
There only two guys in this
507
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:49,500
thing of 16 that are under six
foot tall and that's Thomas
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00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:54,600
Williams, The Athlete down out
of South Carolina and takehe
509
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,000
that Highland Springs and
everybody else.
510
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,100
You know, Trail on Mitchell.
We got out of Southern Nash, 6
511
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:06,500
to avoid Copeland, at Appomattox
64, you know, dealing with a key
512
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:12,000
down and Buford 61 Marcel 6.
I mean that is a good thing to
513
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,200
see and I also love seeing
athlete because every time I see
514
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:21,100
athlete it's usually you get
labeled that when you do
515
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:22,800
multiple things on a field,
right?
516
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,600
You're probably playing wideout
a running back or quarterback,
517
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:29,400
but you're doing something
defensively and we've already
518
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,200
seen in the early part of prize
10.
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00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:37,500
Year, he's not afraid to just
flip somebody, say you will be a
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00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:41,100
better Corner than you will a
wide receiver or you'll be a
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00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:43,200
better safety, then you will be
a core.
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00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:47,600
You know, getting athletes with
the lowercase, a is always a
523
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,000
good thing.
So, you know, in this case
524
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:55,800
they've got to uppercase a, you
get to you, get to find where
525
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,500
they fit in your system.
And when with a roster like
526
00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:01,500
ours, that has a lot of holes in
different places.
527
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,100
Getting guys with some of that
flexibility and fluidity of
528
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:11,300
position is not a bad thing.
Not at all.
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00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:17,699
All right, let's flip it.
To basketball recruiting Brandon
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00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,500
Rick Steiner.
Commits that name had been
531
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:23,000
popping up.
A lot people have been dealing.
532
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:30,500
Yeah, the Sun for us.
Kids of the 90s and 2000's, the
533
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:35,600
son of Big Poppa, Pump Scott,
Steiner the nephew of the
534
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,100
dog-faced gremlin Rick, Steiner,
who say, what you want to say
535
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:41,400
about pro wrestling.
Those two guys want to get all
536
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,800
Americans at Michigan.
They were likely Jit football
537
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,100
players are.
Let's get badass.
538
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:48,199
They were legit athletes.
Yeah, he just went into an
539
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:51,699
entertainment industry in.
I always loved the Steiner
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00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:56,600
Brothers, but 61 point guard,
185 pounds of top 10 player in
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00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,300
Georgia, rated three star, but
from everything you're reading
542
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:06,900
this kid went from like nobody
knew his name to being on
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00:35:06,900 --> 00:35:12,700
everybody's radar, picking up a
ton of commits like LSU offered.
544
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,900
Miami Notre Dame Xavier, you
know, Georgia Tech Kansas State,
545
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,100
like some legit solid, you know,
programs are offering him in,
546
00:35:24,100 --> 00:35:26,600
you know, the Hokies get in with
Mike young.
547
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:32,300
So, you know, again I've said it
with this class.
548
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:34,300
I mean, it's it holds true for
basketball.
549
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:39,500
Some of this is still Covid
carry over in just not having a
550
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:44,200
lot of tape and guys being under
recruited and you're seeing a
551
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,200
lot of big push at the last
minute.
552
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,600
Wants these guys start getting
all the other teams Radars, this
553
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,800
is what happened here.
I mean her extender is
554
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,700
essentially Padula 2.0 but you
know, you didn't.
555
00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:58,500
You didn't get any.
What?
556
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:01,000
Sophomore film?
You probably only got partial
557
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:08,800
Junior film.
So, yeah, so again, it helps in
558
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,600
probably helps.
The relationship was built early
559
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,600
with him trying to see here real
quick and see if we've got the
560
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,000
official offered date.
They don't have that on here,
561
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,600
but could probably go back
through this timeline.
562
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,500
Figure it out.
But again relationship, right?
563
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:30,100
Yep, we get, it's every sport.
And if you can get the
564
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:35,100
relationships, A guy like this,
who's under the radar, who blows
565
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,000
up.
You might have a chance of
566
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,300
pulling it off.
So awesome to see that.
567
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:44,900
All right, one more piece, Brian
here, the Hokey Hall of Fame,
568
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,400
class of 2020, to has announced
on a shout out through these
569
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,800
three.
Folks before we get to the for
570
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,800
football players, the first
tortilla happens on a three-time
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00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,200
All-American.
The second woman ever to win a
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00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:05,100
National Championship at
Virginia Tech or For AC tails
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00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:10,200
are career three in hammer,
throw one in weight, throw more
574
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,300
seldom, Nikki, two national
championships.
575
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:18,200
Three appearances in the
Olympics, third hokey to win
576
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:23,900
multiple NCAA titles and 2012 in
his weight throw championship
577
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:28,700
and then Sarah Smith six-time
ACC Champion All-American and 07
578
00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:31,400
as a swimming and Diving scholar
athletes.
579
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,800
The first of all, shout out to
those. those Hokies who clearly,
580
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:40,200
you know, apparently, you know,
We kind of look at this and we
581
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:46,900
think about you see 2007 in that
you know, where we're building
582
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:51,900
to get here.
But let's talk about the guys
583
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,700
that we all know and I want to
start with Mike Gentry.
584
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,800
Remember gentrified, remember
hearing that back in the day you
585
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,600
hear about, guys would go to
Tech and get gentrified.
586
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,900
Mike was a for his time was a
revolutionary strength and
587
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:09,400
conditioning coach.
Yep.
588
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:15,400
In all of us, who are a certain
age when you started hearing
589
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:21,200
about Gentry and what he did to
some of the guys he made, A lot
590
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,100
of those teams, what they were
with his programs.
591
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:29,000
When you talk about the, the
development side of Virginia
592
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,800
Tech and turning the two and
three stars in to all Americans
593
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,100
and NFL draft picks.
It started with my Ginger damn,
594
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,700
right?
It did Mike still working, I
595
00:38:40,707 --> 00:38:43,600
think he's down at Emory & Henry
now, but also to see him go into
596
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,300
the Hall of Fame.
All right?
597
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:48,100
The next one, probably, if
you're a football fan of any
598
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:54,000
yell, regardless of Of tech, you
know, Phantom or not Bruce,
599
00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,300
Arians goes in quarterback in
the 1970s coached, a ton mean,
600
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:04,400
came back coached, at Tech.
I think for one year then
601
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,100
obviously in the NFL coach to
your beloved cold stare for a
602
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:12,000
while run, I know that Ben
Pittsburgh for a long spell
603
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,300
there.
As I was see, obviously Tampa.
604
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,500
You have a couple stops here
recently.
605
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:26,400
That it had some success.
So yeah, but I mean I love you
606
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,300
know say what you want.
Some people say well this is
607
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,200
because he want a Super Bowl.
Yeah.
608
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:37,400
Smart universities if somebody
wins a significant Something in
609
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000
their life.
Even if they were not the best
610
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,800
player on the field, you put
them in the Hall of Fame.
611
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,300
I don't give a damn.
Yeah, and I mean if we're being
612
00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:49,800
honest though, I mean a lot of
the The numbers that he held
613
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,500
when he from his from his time
stood up through Michael Vick.
614
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:57,300
So a lot of those didn't fall
until Vic got around there.
615
00:39:57,300 --> 00:40:01,700
So You know, there's something
to be said, I know was a
616
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:05,800
different era, you know, they
don't necessarily stand out in
617
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,900
the modern era.
But, you know, there were some
618
00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:14,300
to be said for what he did in
his time inside, just a career
619
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:16,800
Achievement Award.
That that's getting passed out
620
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,200
here, but it definitely helps
that he want.
621
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,100
He turned around and won a Super
Bowl as a coach in the NFL.
622
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,100
Yeah.
All right.
623
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:27,200
Brian, a few minutes ago, you
mentioned turning a tooth
624
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:33,500
turning, a 2 Star.
Into a All-American into a
625
00:40:33,508 --> 00:40:36,500
Benefield draft pick.
Essentially, that's what Mike
626
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,600
Gentry.
Did to Kam.
627
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,400
Chancellor of Chancellor was a
two-star with three offers.
628
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,000
Quarterback down.
And he comes, Virginia Tech, he
629
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,800
plays corner, he plays Rover,
he's plays free.
630
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:55,800
You know, two-time ACC Champion
Super Bowl champion All-Pro,
631
00:40:56,300 --> 00:41:01,100
when he hits you, you knew it.
And I mean, one of those guys,
632
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:06,900
you know, in the in the late
2000s, man, you you kind of, you
633
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:11,100
just kind of knew.
Yeah, yeah, I mean that was, you
634
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:16,000
know, when we talk about the
personality of you be you, there
635
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:22,800
are other guys that had Physical
traits that stood out, but can
636
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,600
was the guy that let his hitting
do the talking, let his energy
637
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,700
that he brought to the
proceedings, do the talking.
638
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:37,700
And it's nice to see him get in
there especially after such a
639
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:43,700
great NFL career you know
essentially the Thunder of the
640
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:47,800
legion of boom there.
Yes he was to meet to be.
641
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,800
Honestly he was the most
important part of the legion of
642
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,600
boom because if you don't have
someone of his size when he got
643
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:59,400
there he was like 64 225 who
could play like a free safety
644
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,700
hit like a linebacker could
cover tight end running.
645
00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:07,000
That thing doesn't click.
Don't get me wrong, Sherman was
646
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,400
great Comics was great, but if
you don't have him to put fear
647
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,300
leads to boo, never is all
right.
648
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:20,300
Speaking of putting fear, I mean
Vince Hall, man, or your starter
649
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:26,100
44 consecutive game started, I
mean him, and the DD still are
650
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:31,700
to me the prototypical, Mike and
backer in the system.
651
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:34,000
Yep.
And even the system we have.
652
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,300
Now, if you, if you told Brent
pry, he could find an Executor
653
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:40,900
and events in next year's class.
He take them in a heartbeat,
654
00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:44,100
something more impressive.
He did to me, you don't see this
655
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:46,500
happen when he won The Dudley in
06.
656
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:49,500
Best 8-ball bestie one player in
the state of Virginia.
657
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,400
He was a you don't see defensive
guys, get that even guys who
658
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,200
gets a ton of tackles and less
and less their own like special
659
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,300
teams and their running back.
Punk and kickers.
660
00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:00,500
Exactly.
That's usually the only way you
661
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:02,700
see that happen.
Exactly.
662
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,400
I mean but you know, this this
was the years he played where
663
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:14,100
the years we were We were games
every year, we will constantly
664
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:16,500
in front of that TV or multiple
games every year we were
665
00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:18,800
multiple watching.
We were watching multiple games
666
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,500
together at home in the dorm
room in the apartment apartment.
667
00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:27,900
So we were wondering, why, why
did we start doing this at 12
668
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:32,100
today?
You know, why not in, you know,
669
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,400
again, it's just one of those
things.
670
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,600
I'm glad he got his due, but you
go through, there's Ben.
671
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,300
Just a handful of folks, to win
the dull, awarded a defensive
672
00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:46,800
players and the names, you know,
add up.
673
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,700
So I'm really glad to see they
put Vince Hall in the Hall of
674
00:43:49,707 --> 00:43:52,200
Fame.
He is well deserved of it man.
675
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:56,700
Absolutely.
I run for we start talking about
676
00:43:56,700 --> 00:44:00,200
what went down Monday night, we
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Now back to the episode All
686
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:31,500
right, so Monday was the Hokie
tailgate at Hardy would hear in
687
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:34,500
the RBA being Brian talked a
couple times.
688
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:40,100
Say hey, let's try to, you know,
get out there about 20, 25 4:45
689
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,700
We thought we were going to beat
the traffic or did we beat the
690
00:44:44,707 --> 00:44:50,100
traffic scratch that scratch
that oh yeah we got there.
691
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:54,000
We were they were parking across
the street and we were about two
692
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,400
thirds of the way down that lot
when we got there.
693
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,800
So Hokies were out in full
force.
694
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,200
I don't know where the official
numbers are, but I know they
695
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,200
were north of 1000.
I think they were close to 1500.
696
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000
So that's a damn good showing
for for Hokie Nation out here in
697
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,500
the r-va.
I'll ask you first impressions
698
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:18,400
of the event.
Well, the first impression is
699
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,800
event, just walking after we
parked and we're walking up,
700
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,500
they had shuttles.
So you did not have to walk
701
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:26,300
completely from the parking lot
but just walking up.
702
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:29,500
It was a told brine it brought
me back.
703
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:32,000
It felt like we were walking up
from prices for it.
704
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,300
When we were younger, we used
tailgate down there and going up
705
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:36,900
to the stadium.
You just had this feel.
706
00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:40,400
It's a it's a different energy
going on in Hokie Nation right
707
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,400
now with everything.
Been done since November of last
708
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,800
year, no, you, there's buzz in
the air.
709
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,400
There's, you know, there's just
this feeling that things might
710
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,000
get back to the way it was in.
That's that was my feeling going
711
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,300
in and when you just saw, how
many folks were there and I
712
00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:03,800
mean, we, you know, just people
seen excited and I know you can
713
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,600
see every year were football,
season, people are going to be
714
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,900
excited but it's just it's just
different this year than it has
715
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:11,100
been over the last really last
23 years.
716
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:13,700
Cheers.
Yeah, I think there's some
717
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:15,400
there's some fire back in the
program.
718
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,700
I think there's enthusiasm and I
think there's you know, it's
719
00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:25,100
mixed with cautious optimism.
I think there's not very many
720
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:27,700
people that think we're going to
have a very good team this year.
721
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:32,400
I think there's some some people
that think will win 8 games.
722
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:38,500
Maybe most most people are more
in the 527 range or like make a
723
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:45,100
bowl, you know, maybe get one.
Extra one in there and see what
724
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:47,200
happens.
I think that's realistic
725
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,000
considering our schedule and
considering, you know, some of
726
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,100
the pickups we had in the
offseason in the portal and some
727
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:57,200
of the some of the freshmen that
are going to be coming up and
728
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,600
step it up this year.
So it's going to be interesting.
729
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,700
But there is a buzz that I
haven't seen.
730
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:10,100
So I'll say this, I went to
Hardy would for the Country Club
731
00:47:10,100 --> 00:47:13,400
North Carolina game.
So yeah, last year, first game
732
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,600
of the season, like there was
enthusiasm for it just because
733
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,600
it was like, all right?
Everybody's out kind of for the
734
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,800
first time in a long time.
Yeah, we're football related
735
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:30,200
event but there was not a lot of
excitement in terms of what was
736
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,500
going to happen.
A lot of people were very, very
737
00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:37,300
nervous about that game.
Obviously, it went our way.
738
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:44,200
We played, played a good game.
Game kept it clean and then that
739
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:50,500
really kind of helped helped
help carry the day but there's a
740
00:47:50,508 --> 00:47:53,300
different type of enthusiasm
there there isn't.
741
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:57,600
As much holding our breath that,
you know.
742
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,200
Yeah, disaster is around the
corner.
743
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:02,800
Absolutely.
And that's the feel you got.
744
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,200
There you again, it's the
renewed sense of hope.
745
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,800
It's like a spring.
The nation is review renewed and
746
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,300
when you know when hearing prop
talk which will talk about just
747
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:16,100
a couple minutes, you'll
understand why?
748
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:19,000
But let's talk real quick.
We got to talk to Bud Foster for
749
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,600
a compliment.
It's and we talked about
750
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,500
boundary Corner.
We are not going to mention what
751
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:26,400
he said because we want to have,
but on the show one day.
752
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,800
But let's just say it was very
interesting as we started
753
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,500
talking about players Bud, was
in, is in full retirement mode.
754
00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:37,200
I am.
Now, I'm weird 30 years. 35
755
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:40,600
years from retirement, the way,
everything's going nowadays, but
756
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,100
I hope I'm like, Bud and living
my best life.
757
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:47,400
Like, he was one thing that my
man was living his best life.
758
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:52,400
He had folks Preen and drinks.
He was in head-to-head, the the
759
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:57,200
linen pants and the like
Hawaiian shirt be t-shirt on
760
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:02,100
like he was, he was full
lounging and I looked at it, I
761
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:06,800
was like, man if I'm retiring
like that And I'm doing all
762
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,300
right, because I had to get some
retirement tips.
763
00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:12,000
Like, you know, what's the
secret?
764
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,700
Because, yeah, he looks like
he's doing it.
765
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:16,400
The best doing it, the best and
the coolest part about.
766
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,500
But if you've never been harder,
when he was literally in this,
767
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:22,600
the middle of it and then if you
wanted to walk up and have him
768
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,100
sign something, I saw him sign a
couple things, he take your
769
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:29,700
picture, we snapped one with
them, of course. and just being
770
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:35,300
him masseter out there like, you
know, sometimes you see folks
771
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:39,400
You know, better famous in
public and I don't want to
772
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,200
bother him, it seemed like Bud
was there to talk to any hokey
773
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,200
that wanted to talk to him about
anything and anywhere.
774
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,800
He was ready to shake all the
hands and kiss all the babies,
775
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,000
he has ready to go and he was
fired up to support private was
776
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,800
fired at the sort of support the
program.
777
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:01,400
So that was that was big.
It was big and a guy like that
778
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,000
there that because he didn't
have to come to that one.
779
00:50:05,300 --> 00:50:07,700
No, he did not.
Not and especially, you know,
780
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:10,200
when was what Roanoke?
He didn't have to come to our
781
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,900
VA.
You never come to our VA
782
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:15,500
especially when you hear Mike
young had to plane which game
783
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:19,300
three and a half hour drive.
Actually four hour drive because
784
00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:23,000
he's down at Crater Lake.
So long drive back home.
785
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,300
He had a big look, big drive
back, he wasn't a, it wasn't an
786
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:28,100
hour flight for him.
Nope.
787
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,000
All right.
Next, you know we had whipped
788
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,300
come up and talk with believe it
or not, got actually a good
789
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:39,400
ovation.
Some people's feelings of wit
790
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,500
might not like him but, you
know, talk it's big.
791
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:46,100
So I think a lot of people feel
good about Whit not talking
792
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:49,500
about football, but when we talk
about football, you know, people
793
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:51,500
get tight bundles about with, so
yeah?
794
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:56,000
Yeah, in fact and fair enough.
I mean they've got reason for
795
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,200
that.
I mean there has been You know,
796
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,100
missteps on that side of things.
He well let's go back.
797
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,800
First of all, his first missed
up was made when he got here
798
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,800
instead of addressing football
up front.
799
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,100
He addressed everything else.
People can see what you want to
800
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:14,400
say about the for when they hire
at that point in time.
801
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,800
That was a literally a top-three
tire.
802
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:23,600
Don't get it twisted, the 2020
2020.
803
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,900
Yeah.
The 2020 is worse than the
804
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:27,500
higher itself.
Yeah.
805
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,000
If your Pointed to things to
complain to with about extending
806
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,700
Fuente too early.
Yes not getting rid of him in
807
00:51:34,700 --> 00:51:37,600
2020.
Those are the two two biggest
808
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,900
things that you can criticize
with about aside from not
809
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:44,200
addressing football sooner, but
also give him credit.
810
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,700
When things went sideways in
2018, readjusting his plan and
811
00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:52,400
getting the facilities.
Updated getting, 'if a
812
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,900
fast-track, the stuff that had
to be fast tracking if you
813
00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:59,100
wanted to actually build things
out, and he did, Again, we're
814
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:01,600
probably about one year behind
where we should be with Coach.
815
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,800
Whether that ended up netting,
us prai or Shane or Tony yelling
816
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,800
or whoever the hell it would
have been exactly what we're
817
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,600
about one year behind on the
rebuild.
818
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,300
But aside from that the other
stuff that when he, when he
819
00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:17,300
finally got around to it, he's
putting it together the way it
820
00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:20,300
needs to, and he did it.
Obviously, we all want things to
821
00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:25,900
happen yesterday because we care
about the team being something
822
00:52:25,900 --> 00:52:28,300
to us and with all this stuff
going on.
823
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:33,200
On with realignment and ni L.
We feel like we don't want to be
824
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:34,700
one of those teams is Left
Behind.
825
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,000
We don't want to be the
leftovers.
826
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,700
Now I don't want to be leftovers
at all and he addressed it.
827
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:41,200
No talking about how complex the
situation is.
828
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,500
Realignment is said, it's
something that now is a
829
00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:48,700
conversation every day in
merryman about his previous top
830
00:52:48,700 --> 00:52:51,000
Cincinnati.
It was a conversation every day
831
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,600
there, so obviously it is up on
his mind on the Forefront.
832
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,000
He mentioned honest.
I alongs with, you know,
833
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,500
commissioner Phillips.
I'd like to hear what that
834
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:04,000
honest dialogue is.
I hope it's listen as soon as we
835
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:05,400
can.
We going to leave unless you do
836
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,600
something a lot better and you
need to get some more markets in
837
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,800
here.
That solidifying, our position
838
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,500
need to get better meteorites or
in three to five years.
839
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:20,400
You're looking at having fewer
members of this conference if
840
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,100
things line up.
Yeah, exactly.
841
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,000
If you're not, I mean, at some
point, we got to light a fire
842
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:30,300
under the Commissioners a stew.
Because I know he understands
843
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:33,300
the situation but if he's not
getting pressure every day.
844
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:39,400
Yes then in especially from
schools like Virginia Tech.
845
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:46,000
It doesn't matter if Florida
State or Clemson or Miami or
846
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,300
even you know UNC or in ceased.
I mean most of those schools are
847
00:53:50,300 --> 00:53:54,600
probably going to find a home in
whatever the new world looks
848
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,200
like.
It's The Fringe schools like
849
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,400
Virginia.
Tech like UVA like Louisville.
850
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:08,100
Like Georgia Tech that have good
markets, but, you know, have
851
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:11,100
some shortcomings in terms of
where their programs are at the
852
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:15,700
time that they're going to
probably need a little bit of a
853
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:19,400
boost and if we're not pushing
for it, then that gives us more
854
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,800
potential to get left behind
exactly.
855
00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:24,200
All right.
Something else he address talk
856
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,900
about while Brent prowls.
The guy, you know, made the
857
00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:29,800
comments that he The initial
bar, one of the initial goals
858
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,800
honours list would also made the
comment that he needed, Virginia
859
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,300
Tech how to get back to the
defensive mentality which was,
860
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:42,600
you know very very good to hear
from him because you think
861
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:47,900
Virginia Tech you think defense
you know the one thing in this
862
00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:49,800
was the ultimate shot right
here.
863
00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:53,100
Everything is better under
Brent.
864
00:54:54,100 --> 00:55:00,500
Yeah, I mean, yeah, and I mean
he's not wrong, I mean, but like
865
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:04,800
that's just he didn't say it,
but he basically back in should
866
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,200
have just went to a with that
like, everything that I'm sorry.
867
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:10,400
And I'll Circle back to the
defensive mentality.
868
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:15,700
Because when we look at the
teams, That are consistently
869
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:19,600
winning the national
championship and consistently
870
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,000
going to the college football,
playoff true.
871
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:24,400
Yes.
They do have some good offenses
872
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,300
in there.
It's particularly looking at
873
00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:33,600
like Ohio State you know Oregon
but all of them play either very
874
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,000
good or nasty defense.
Yep.
875
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:39,100
Right.
I mean, we do you think a
876
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:42,100
Clemson we think of Ohio State,
when we think of ago, when we
877
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:47,500
think of Bammel Bama obviously.
And any of the other guys in the
878
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:51,100
conversation, when you think of
them, you think of Defense first
879
00:55:51,100 --> 00:55:52,900
and everything else is
secondary.
880
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,000
Ohio State might be the only one
that's probably in the, you
881
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,400
know, more or less balanced in
that category.
882
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:03,500
Maybe but I mean thing, I mean,
nasty and mean both of those
883
00:56:03,500 --> 00:56:04,500
young.
Oh yeah.
884
00:56:04,500 --> 00:56:06,400
I mean I'm saying hey Emily,
they have a lead.
885
00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:10,300
Offense and an elite defense.
They're just not they're not
886
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:13,000
stepping it quite up as much as
like a Bama on the defensive
887
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,900
side, I got you.
All right.
888
00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:17,100
Well, the other thing, he's
talked about everything has to
889
00:56:17,107 --> 00:56:20,000
be built, right?
We agree with that you because
890
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:22,600
again, I think he saw what
happened in 16.
891
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,900
He did not build it right.
He, he extended somebody too
892
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:30,300
early.
He gave somebody too much leash,
893
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:35,900
so it has to be built, right?
And he hates the gave him so
894
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:37,800
much lead.
Is that he continuously hung
895
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,400
himself by not getting rid of
personnel?
896
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,100
That were not up to par?
Yeah.
897
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,400
Now, Brian, you love what he
said on the ni L you love when
898
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:54,900
he said, uh, Sadie's, hold the
NCAA, this entail shit, it's
899
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:58,400
going to affect recruiting and
they basically brush them off.
900
00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:03,700
The NCAA continues to just stick
their thumb up their ass on a
901
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:09,300
lot of the stuff, the NCAA had
over a decade to figure this
902
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:11,600
out.
They got to a point.
903
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,100
They got to a point where State
started passing laws.
904
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:18,200
So once so they kick the can
down the road.
905
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,800
Now, what states are passing
laws?
906
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:25,100
Now, they are worried about if
we put in stuff now, are we open
907
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:28,300
ourselves up to lawsuits?
So now they got scared in the
908
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:29,600
laws.
Suits that are like, well, if
909
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,200
we're going to do this, we just
got to have Open Season.
910
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,900
And now you got Open Season and
of course, it's being used to
911
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:39,500
recruit players what you think
he was going to do like zactly.
912
00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:42,900
But I just love hit like, it
sounds like the ades are out
913
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:45,100
there like, trying to push this
like get this done.
914
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:48,400
It's gonna Peck things and they
didn't do anything.
915
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,100
So put a, put a reasonable plan
out there instead of just
916
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:56,500
saying, all right.
Well, this is this is the thing
917
00:57:56,500 --> 00:57:58,900
now.
Exactly figure out how it's
918
00:57:58,900 --> 00:58:02,000
going to be implemented within
your state legislator within
919
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,300
your conference Within.
School, like it's just a
920
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:08,400
cluster, and it varies from
state line to State Line and in
921
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,400
terms of what what teams are
doing.
922
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,200
It varies from school to school
and various from conference to
923
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:16,200
conference and it's not just
about the dollars, it's about
924
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:20,700
what is and is not permissible
because again, the NCAA didn't
925
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:22,900
give enough guidance.
Exactly.
926
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:27,100
All right, you know he did talk
about got to be miles within a
927
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:29,100
oh, we'll see how that plays
out.
928
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:31,700
But let's talk about events in a
few thing on Game Day experience
929
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:35,000
has he said the Wi-Fi, Is going
to be slightly better in Lane he
930
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:39,000
got he got class.
Yeah I need I need a definition
931
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,300
of that.
One day, one percent would be
932
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:46,100
better than zero or negative so
I'll give him that.
933
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,400
He also said that the the
restrooms the pictures are going
934
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,400
to be better - in peace.
Troughs, no no, no trolls are
935
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,600
fine.
You really want to make the
936
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,300
bathrooms better, put some TVs
in there on the wall.
937
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:06,100
So if it's, you know, the third
quarter, And we're driving or or
938
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:07,700
you know we just punted the
ball.
939
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:10,700
I don't worry about running to
the pisser and missing the game
940
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:14,700
because if you as you know you
go through the the walkways and
941
00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:18,400
go get a beer, so I'm not a big
ol bear now or get some food
942
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:21,000
their TVs there.
You can see the plays you don't
943
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,200
miss anything.
Except you know, that feeling I
944
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,900
want to be able to go to the
bathroom and if it's a longer
945
00:59:26,900 --> 00:59:31,500
line, if I'm in there taking a
piss, I can still see what's
946
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:34,000
happening on the field.
That's all I ask for after two
947
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,700
TVs, on each side, where the
troughs are exactly as you walk
948
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:42,700
in one above the trough, if you
got to go into the Stalls where
949
00:59:42,700 --> 00:59:46,500
you just shit out of luck.
And one when you exit and you're
950
00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:48,300
shitting, so you definitely
ought to look.
951
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,700
You definitely have you might as
well as nobody wants to shit and
952
00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:51,700
Lane Stadium.
Let's go.
953
00:59:52,700 --> 00:59:55,300
Nobody wants to shit in any
public safety and just being
954
00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:56,900
honest about it.
Diagonally.
955
00:59:57,100 --> 01:00:00,700
All right, so with cheered, most
of the night and then he got the
956
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:04,400
boot, the end when he said,
stick it in would not be back.
957
01:00:05,900 --> 01:00:07,200
Yeah.
What the hell?
958
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,700
Why are we?
Why are we still doing this?
959
01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:12,800
Why are we why we're still?
We're still kicking.
960
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:18,000
Well, you know, it's your nasty
mind.
961
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,300
If you're thinking that way, I'm
trying to put the ball in the
962
01:00:21,300 --> 01:00:22,900
end zone.
People, what are you where are
963
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:23,900
you?
Where is your mind?
964
01:00:23,900 --> 01:00:28,400
Go, we are in the Red Zone.
Trying to get the ball in the
965
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,800
end zone for a touchdown.
Where are your minds at All you
966
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:35,200
people complain about it.
Where are your minds at?
967
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:39,600
I've heard that since 2003 and
I'll ever thought about it.
968
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,300
Oh, we're down here.
We're about to get it in, we're
969
01:00:42,300 --> 01:00:44,800
about to score.
None of this other stuff you
970
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,600
guys mentioned.
So clearly those who are against
971
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:55,600
it are pervs, that's one way to
sell it Curtis.
972
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,900
Okay, it needs were in the red
zone.
973
01:01:00,500 --> 01:01:05,100
That's what it means.
It means we're about to stick it
974
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:07,800
in to the residence.
Exactly.
975
01:01:08,500 --> 01:01:12,100
All right, let's talk about
Brent pry, and him up on stage
976
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:14,900
with my keeper of who we got to
meet and talk to about five
977
01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:17,900
minutes.
Mikey, burn up is awesome.
978
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,900
He's bad, dude.
He is that dude.
979
01:01:20,900 --> 01:01:25,100
Like, he is the guy, like, if
you say, you know, Game Day
980
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:29,300
weekend you could spend time
with, you know, any personality.
981
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:32,200
I know he's in the A booth the
game but Mike just seems like
982
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,500
the guy who owns it, he was
walking around.
983
01:01:35,500 --> 01:01:38,100
Look like he owned the place.
He's like 70 years old.
984
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:41,800
He looks, 55 looks in great
shape.
985
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,100
We gotta love my like burning,
man.
986
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:50,000
You just got to.
Yeah, he was tearing it up.
987
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,200
We had to talk to about five
minutes.
988
01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:56,500
Got got to tell him that.
He's good, buddy, Wes says,
989
01:01:56,500 --> 01:01:59,200
hello.
So yeah, he was, he was excited
990
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:04,500
about that and But I love my
keeper McMahon and hopefully
991
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:06,800
every day I think.
Now every of the Poke of, then I
992
01:02:06,808 --> 01:02:08,200
go to, I'm trying to find my
government.
993
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,800
Talk to him for five minutes.
Yeah, I definitely he's one of
994
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:14,600
the guys that you do.
You can have a beer with and
995
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:19,000
just talk about not just hokey
sports but just like anything in
996
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,700
general.
Like he's that guy that's going
997
01:02:20,700 --> 01:02:22,000
to have that conversation with
you.
998
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:23,300
Yeah.
Okay.
999
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:25,500
Well let's talk about another
guy.
1000
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:30,400
You want to share a beer with
Brent pry gets up on stage and
1001
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:36,500
it's it's immediate the energy.
It's a joke, it's on Twitter,
1002
01:02:36,500 --> 01:02:39,700
didn't Chad she he gets it and
he does get it.
1003
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:44,900
This guy gets it this get he's
up there horse himself a beer on
1004
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:50,300
stage you know just you know
been here eight months brings
1005
01:02:50,300 --> 01:02:53,600
out his wife to introduce a
cheers of the crowd, taking a
1006
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,000
panoramic selfie of the crowd
and sending it to recruits.
1007
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:02,800
I mean And, you know, he talked
about, he knew that this was the
1008
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:08,700
space because it was the fandom
and that was his cell point in,
1009
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:10,900
you know, it didn't feel like a
cell point though.
1010
01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:13,900
It felt like it was a genuine
response from him.
1011
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,800
And I mean, he was just having
fun up there.
1012
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,000
Yep.
During that interview portion,
1013
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,000
he was having a good time here.
Like I said, said, drinking
1014
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:29,800
beer, What I've noticed and I
hate to juxtapose this with with
1015
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:33,200
Flint a just because, you know,
I think we kicked we've kicked
1016
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,600
the dog enough at this point,
but we have the same people.
1017
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:40,500
He's previous, guys, you gotta
be a comparison but at the same
1018
01:03:40,500 --> 01:03:45,800
time when we look at an event
like this and we had this like
1019
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,500
Q&A session with burn up, right?
So he's up on stage.
1020
01:03:48,500 --> 01:03:52,400
He's up there with burning up
there talking But pry is.
1021
01:03:53,900 --> 01:03:57,700
I'd say leading the discussion
just as much as my key is.
1022
01:03:57,700 --> 01:04:01,500
It wasn't my key directing him
where to go ask them the
1023
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:04,700
question getting the can answer
moving on.
1024
01:04:04,700 --> 01:04:10,200
Like Coach problems up there to
talk and to interact with the
1025
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,500
crowd and then also he was going
to answer some questions.
1026
01:04:14,300 --> 01:04:17,200
That might burn a pad form.
Yep.
1027
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,600
And you could tell that from
from the jump, I mean the the
1028
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:23,800
energy was just completely
different.
1029
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,200
Exactly.
And that's what it was.
1030
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,200
It was I'm not here to answer
questions.
1031
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:36,400
I'm here to talk to the fans.
It wasn't this wasn't an I'm
1032
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,300
just here so I don't get fine
situation this very very much.
1033
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,200
You know I'm here I'm selling
the program, I'm selling the
1034
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,600
program so I can sell the
program to recruits.
1035
01:04:47,700 --> 01:04:51,900
It's all cyclical.
When it all feeds into what we
1036
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:57,900
want as a team to Get to right?
So I think I think he
1037
01:04:57,900 --> 01:05:01,500
understands that it's, it's a
multi-pronged like being a head
1038
01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:04,400
coach, has a multi-prong thing.
It's not just I've got to be
1039
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,400
good at managing a game.
I've got to be good at
1040
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:13,300
understanding X's and O's.
It's not just that it's so much
1041
01:05:13,300 --> 01:05:17,700
else and I think he understands
those those aspects of it and he
1042
01:05:17,700 --> 01:05:21,400
did a good job of selling those
things to the people that were
1043
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,600
there.
And I think a lot of it.
1044
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:26,800
As you said it's not just
selling its that's just how
1045
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:31,700
that's his personality.
He's a very energetic guy and
1046
01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:35,600
you said it too, he seems to
understand.
1047
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:40,400
When he's talking to people how
to talk to people, right?
1048
01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:44,000
That's it and that goes.
Because if you remember what he
1049
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,900
was talking about, you know, he
talked about how he convinced
1050
01:05:46,900 --> 01:05:49,400
his family, that this was the
right move, they sons
1051
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,800
transferred to take from Penn
State since then, but then he
1052
01:05:52,808 --> 01:05:56,000
talked about his first, real job
was recruiting the staff.
1053
01:05:56,500 --> 01:06:01,100
And is we start looking at this
staff you know especially on the
1054
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:04,500
offensive side of the ball?
Yeah talking about Joe Rudolph
1055
01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:06,400
talking about Tyler, moans do
Holt.
1056
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,200
Fontelle mines, convincing them.
You can see it.
1057
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,500
And you know, you look at those
guys and you start hearing
1058
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:16,900
important, they are a plethora
of different personalities.
1059
01:06:17,500 --> 01:06:18,900
Yeah.
And I think that's a bigger
1060
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:21,300
cell.
It's because I think in general
1061
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:25,600
top to bottom.
Do you like the offensive staff
1062
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,200
better than the defensive staff?
How do you feel about the
1063
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,400
offensive staff?
The offensive staff?
1064
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,100
Man, I do like the offensive
staff more than the defensive
1065
01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:41,500
staff.
Just because as I start looking
1066
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:44,100
not to knock the defensive
staff, don't get me wrong
1067
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:49,700
between, you know, between JC
Mar cheetah and prioleau.
1068
01:06:49,700 --> 01:06:51,300
You've got a lot of years
experience.
1069
01:06:51,500 --> 01:06:56,300
Don't forget Quinn and Quinn,
it's only about Quinn.
1070
01:06:56,500 --> 01:06:58,900
I mean, we're not twins had some
recruiting wins.
1071
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:06,000
Wins breaking bread hokey Style,
I need to quit their Monday
1072
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,000
night when we were in those
wings and pizza to give us a
1073
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,900
review of those.
Yeah, means and pizza but but
1074
01:07:11,900 --> 01:07:14,700
when you look at it, you look at
that defensive staff.
1075
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:18,700
It's I'm gonna laugh, that's a
hokie defense of Staff.
1076
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,100
That's a super bright linebacker
coach.
1077
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:25,000
It's I mean, he's basically the
same age Bud was when he took
1078
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,500
over the job.
That is a grinder defensive line
1079
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:31,300
coach think about Charlie wild,
think about some of those guys
1080
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,000
that's our mole, right?
That's our mold.
1081
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,000
But then think about the
offensive staff in, you know,
1082
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,000
especially Joe Rudolph and I
love the white Vic because
1083
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:47,400
Dwight bic is looking at Joe
Rudolph and he C JB G. + JB G
1084
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,800
was the online coach back in the
90s who sort of, when we were
1085
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,400
power on the ball.
Kenny, oxendine and mashing
1086
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,200
people, he was that guy, look at
him.
1087
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,800
Look at bone, you know, still
hope left Louisville and one of
1088
01:08:00,808 --> 01:08:03,600
his good friends to come to
Brent pry.
1089
01:08:04,100 --> 01:08:08,700
Yep, it's this feel of.
That's what our defensive staff
1090
01:08:08,700 --> 01:08:09,600
is.
Always look like.
1091
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,100
And it's the looking at the
offensive staff is like it's
1092
01:08:12,100 --> 01:08:16,200
never looked like this.
It's never looked like this.
1093
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:19,100
And Lord hasn't looked like this
in a long, long time.
1094
01:08:19,700 --> 01:08:22,200
No.
And I think that's that's a
1095
01:08:22,207 --> 01:08:25,600
difference is because from a
recruiting standpoint, if you're
1096
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,200
recruiting a staff, He had a
harder sell getting offensive
1097
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,000
guys to come here.
Then he would defensive some
1098
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,300
guys because he is an
established defensive coach.
1099
01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:37,399
He's one of the probably five
best defensive coordinators in
1100
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:43,300
the country as last year and you
know he was saying all right.
1101
01:08:44,300 --> 01:08:45,800
I'm a deep.
I'm a defensive minded.
1102
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,700
Head coach come coach defense.
For me.
1103
01:08:48,700 --> 01:08:50,800
That's not his heart of a cell
as it is.
1104
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,399
Hey, I'm a first-time head coach
in my 50s.
1105
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,500
That's a defensive specialist.
Come coach offense for me.
1106
01:08:58,899 --> 01:09:02,399
Exactly.
And it just shows you how the
1107
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:07,100
guy can talk to people.
Because he convinced you guys to
1108
01:09:07,100 --> 01:09:10,100
come and I mean, I'll say this,
I mean and, you know, I know
1109
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:13,100
there's other coaches that are
like this out there saving for
1110
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:17,500
one, obviously, but But you
know, Brent doesn't seem like a
1111
01:09:17,500 --> 01:09:23,000
guy that's in his early 50s.
He's guys a lot more fire in the
1112
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,800
belly than a lot of guys that
are that age under percent.
1113
01:09:28,100 --> 01:09:32,000
So and I tell you something that
he really had a fire passion
1114
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:36,000
about was talking about Virginia
recruiting Because when he made
1115
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,899
that statement that if we don't
know most about Virginia
1116
01:09:38,899 --> 01:09:40,500
recruits were not doing it
right.
1117
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,800
I mean, we hear that we see how
we've recruited Virginia this
1118
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,800
year and it looks like, you
know, he's still parking players
1119
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:57,400
from Virginia, you know, the the
whole Regional footprint recruit
1120
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,600
just it's not bullshit.
It it is literally that is his
1121
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,200
game plan because he feels like
if he can win this state and
1122
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,600
when the outer that six hour
radius and get good players,
1123
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:12,400
it's going to be the best case.
Scenario to rebuild the
1124
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:13,600
program's.
What it was.
1125
01:10:13,900 --> 01:10:17,100
Yeah.
And when we look at the the top
1126
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:22,200
25 players are so in Virginia in
this cycle you know?
1127
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,600
Other schools definitely had a
head start on us.
1128
01:10:26,900 --> 01:10:32,500
We're making our hey, in that,
you know, 12 to 22 range, 12 to
1129
01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:34,500
25 range, that's where we're
making our.
1130
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:40,600
Hey, right now, in terms of, in
terms of recruits, we, you know,
1131
01:10:40,700 --> 01:10:44,400
looking forward, we got to get
back in the top 10 and I think
1132
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,800
some of that starts with, you
know, and he made an emphasis
1133
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,700
he's like we gotta we gotta get
Penn State out of this damn
1134
01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:52,500
State.
We got to get UNC out of this
1135
01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:55,300
state.
We got to keep more of these
1136
01:10:55,300 --> 01:10:59,500
Virginia kids home and you know
he was he was a part of doing a
1137
01:10:59,508 --> 01:11:03,500
lot of that making that ground
up in Virginia.
1138
01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:05,800
So I mean he understands what it
takes.
1139
01:11:06,700 --> 01:11:10,900
I'm hoping he can get the job
done as we look to the the 24 in
1140
01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:15,800
the 25 classes coming up the
next two years but he knows, he
1141
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,200
knows the blueprint.
He just we got to see if we can.
1142
01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:22,500
He can execute it, right?
Absolutely, it's something else
1143
01:11:22,500 --> 01:11:24,900
talking about.
Ooh, print and his leadership
1144
01:11:24,900 --> 01:11:26,500
styles.
He talked a little bit about the
1145
01:11:26,500 --> 01:11:29,800
Bristol Retreat, which we hit on
when it happened about a week
1146
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,000
after it happened, but something
that he said, said in there
1147
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:35,000
again, we knew that we heard
about.
1148
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,500
He wanted everybody on the same
page, same language the same
1149
01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:40,000
thing.
So if you walk from Pharrell,
1150
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:46,000
you know, bones office to, you
know, gouveia Windows Office,
1151
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,800
they're preaching the same
things.
1152
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,800
That was the first big thing,
but the other big thing was this
1153
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,200
and I don't know if you caught
it, but it, but it turned my
1154
01:11:53,300 --> 01:11:55,400
Because, what kind of leader is,
he talked about?
1155
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:59,100
He did a lot of the talking and
he said, next year, when we do
1156
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:01,500
this, I don't not, I do not want
that.
1157
01:12:01,900 --> 01:12:06,700
I want to hear from everybody,
because they took everybody,
1158
01:12:07,500 --> 01:12:09,700
which is crazy, literally,
everybody.
1159
01:12:09,900 --> 01:12:15,200
But, but when you hear that, in
a guy of a leadership position,
1160
01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:21,300
those guys usually, you know, as
long as they take what they hear
1161
01:12:21,300 --> 01:12:25,500
from everyone under them, Em and
start figuring out how to work
1162
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:27,900
it and how to make everybody
else successful.
1163
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:30,000
Usually those guys are the most
successful guys.
1164
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,700
Yep.
If you can drive that culture
1165
01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:37,600
and you can have that, that very
much top-down message, where
1166
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,200
what you hear from the top guys.
The same thing that you're
1167
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:45,000
hearing from the player
Personnel guy or even the video
1168
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,800
guy or like, if the message is
the same in the message is
1169
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,000
consistent.
Then the behaviors are going to
1170
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,700
be the same way.
And I'm done by the behaviors of
1171
01:12:54,708 --> 01:12:56,100
the players.
Yeah.
1172
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,300
Whether that's getting extra
work in.
1173
01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:02,200
Whether that understanding The
Playbook understanding, what you
1174
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,500
need to do in certain scenarios
whether that's getting an extra
1175
01:13:05,500 --> 01:13:11,900
workout, staying after practice,
all those things, those little
1176
01:13:11,900 --> 01:13:17,500
things that drive the culture
add up and getting that
1177
01:13:17,500 --> 01:13:21,500
consistent messaging.
That consistent way of things
1178
01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:24,900
being taught and Is being
emphasized is going to be
1179
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:27,700
important going forward.
Because if you don't get the
1180
01:13:27,700 --> 01:13:30,900
foundation of that, right?
For the culture, then you're
1181
01:13:30,900 --> 01:13:33,800
going to start seeing cracks.
And I think that's, that's some
1182
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,200
of what happened with the
previous regime.
1183
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,000
Is that there wasn't a culture,
there wasn't a foundation.
1184
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,100
It was just a collection of
ideas that eventually fell
1185
01:13:42,100 --> 01:13:46,200
apart.
And it's also the thing of what
1186
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,200
we talked about before, they
were there to coach and nothing
1187
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,600
else.
And with this staff, you kind of
1188
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,100
see it.
They're not there to just coach.
1189
01:13:54,100 --> 01:13:59,100
They understand coaching is the
most important part of our job
1190
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:00,800
but it's not the only part of
our job.
1191
01:14:01,300 --> 01:14:04,700
And I'm not talking about
teaching the young men and you
1192
01:14:04,700 --> 01:14:07,700
know, helping them prepare for
themselves in life, but
1193
01:14:07,700 --> 01:14:11,000
understanding your part of a
larger Community, I think that's
1194
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,600
what this coaching group gets
more than anything.
1195
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,300
No Brian, let's jump over to
this because I want to, I want
1196
01:14:17,300 --> 01:14:20,200
to, I want to get your thoughts
first.
1197
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:24,000
He talked about it IO talked
about a lot of things on a nail,
1198
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:27,600
which one it you the most
listening to him.
1199
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:34,700
So I think him being a realist
about the ni L situation for
1200
01:14:34,700 --> 01:14:40,000
Blacksburg.
What was the thing because I
1201
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,500
don't think he could have went
in there and said, we're going
1202
01:14:42,500 --> 01:14:49,200
to be the the unc's and the
Miami's and the Clemson's on
1203
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:52,100
this ni L thing out the gate.
I think that's the goal.
1204
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:56,000
But I don't think that's
something that we're going to
1205
01:14:56,000 --> 01:15:00,000
get to right away.
And he said that he doesn't want
1206
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,900
in il to be.
The reason that a player picks
1207
01:15:01,900 --> 01:15:06,700
Virginia Tech and I get that, I
think there might be situations.
1208
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:10,100
Oceans Where there would be an
exception to that depending on
1209
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:12,400
the player, depending on their
caliber, especially for an
1210
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:18,800
in-state player.
But in most terms, I don't want
1211
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,400
a player to pick Virginia Tech
just because they are giving the
1212
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,400
largest in il.
I, but as he said, we must be
1213
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,800
competitive.
We got to be in the ballpark.
1214
01:15:29,900 --> 01:15:35,600
So if somebody's getting
something from from pit, we got
1215
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:39,300
to say, all right, here's what
we can offer from an ni L
1216
01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:44,300
perspective from from from these
collectives here, but we also
1217
01:15:44,900 --> 01:15:50,500
sell in the University as well.
And you know, when we talk about
1218
01:15:50,500 --> 01:15:52,800
the reason, the player pick
something in il definitely is
1219
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,600
going to be in the discussion,
but there's got it wrong.
1220
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:56,600
It's going to be a piece of the
pie, right?
1221
01:15:56,700 --> 01:15:59,600
He can't even some player, some
players, it's a, it's a big.
1222
01:15:59,700 --> 01:16:02,600
Bigger piece, and some of the
smaller, it can't be half the
1223
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,800
pie, but, but it needs to leave,
you know, we know it's going to
1224
01:16:05,808 --> 01:16:08,300
be in there somewhere.
Well, he said we got to be
1225
01:16:08,300 --> 01:16:12,900
competitive in it and he said
and he just straight up called
1226
01:16:12,900 --> 01:16:15,800
out fans, old and young.
The line basically said, you've
1227
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,600
got to support the athletes in
some way.
1228
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:23,400
And, you know, we saw today with
Triumph and IL with Dax Dwayne,
1229
01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:26,000
Caleb.
Who my missing?
1230
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:32,700
I'm missing somebody.
Everything efforting.
1231
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:34,700
Yeah.
And I think, as you're speaking
1232
01:16:34,700 --> 01:16:37,000
on that, I think the big thing
that they've been focused on
1233
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,900
this offseason within IL is more
of Take care of you.
1234
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:43,000
The guys that are on your roster
right now.
1235
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,700
Yep.
Malaga Malaga.
1236
01:16:44,700 --> 01:16:47,600
I got delicate with.
Yeah.
1237
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,000
So I think I think that's been
the focus.
1238
01:16:50,700 --> 01:16:53,900
This offseason is kind of taking
care of some of that because
1239
01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:57,900
there wasn't that type of
foundation put in place it was
1240
01:16:57,900 --> 01:17:03,200
very much a it seemed like
before it was like here are some
1241
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:06,400
tools to help you within IL but
it was very much a, your own
1242
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,300
your own in terms of what you
are able to do with it.
1243
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:13,300
And now we've got collectives
that the school is actively
1244
01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:15,700
partner with.
And this is helping really
1245
01:17:16,700 --> 01:17:22,000
facilitate a better relationship
with those athletes from an ni o
1246
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,200
perspective.
And I'm hoping that we continue
1247
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,800
to build on that and Triumph is
doing a good job.
1248
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:32,300
Shout out be Hill and those
guys.
1249
01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:37,300
Yeah that are part of that.
And yeah, we but we definitely
1250
01:17:37,300 --> 01:17:39,900
got to keep that moving forward.
And and those that have the
1251
01:17:40,100 --> 01:17:44,000
Pasady to help with that.
You know, that needs to be
1252
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,900
something that's, that's going
out there just like me looking
1253
01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:51,300
to drive for 25 and I hope you
Starship fun.
1254
01:17:51,300 --> 01:17:55,400
I mean, if you're not doing it,
we're going to get left behind
1255
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:02,100
very true, not not saying that.
You know, it's got to be the
1256
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:05,800
first and foremost thing, the
most important thing.
1257
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,800
But but as process, we got to be
competitive.
1258
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,100
It got to be, we're not going.
If we're not competitive, we're
1259
01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:13,100
going to keep falling behind
true.
1260
01:18:14,100 --> 01:18:15,900
All right.
Well Brian, let's as we start
1261
01:18:15,900 --> 01:18:19,400
wrapping up here tonight, we
actually got the opportunity.
1262
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:24,400
We stood in line.
We're fans you, we met the head
1263
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:26,200
coach.
We were there was probably
1264
01:18:26,300 --> 01:18:30,100
three, four minutes, talk with
him, cleaned a little beer, With
1265
01:18:30,100 --> 01:18:34,000
him in what you said earlier.
About the recruits, you felt
1266
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,500
with us because the gentleman
before us, he wanted him to send
1267
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:40,200
a video to a friend, right?
And he got on the video and he
1268
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,900
did it with us.
We just we just shot to shit
1269
01:18:43,900 --> 01:18:47,300
with him and it just felt like a
buddy, you know, he claimed the
1270
01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:49,900
Bears with us.
We, you know, said three or four
1271
01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:52,700
things here and there and he's
just having a conversation with
1272
01:18:52,700 --> 01:18:58,500
us.
It felt so it didn't feel like
1273
01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:02,600
he was trying to do it.
He just felt like he looked at
1274
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,000
us and said these are a couple.
Say what we are.
1275
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,600
We're probably 30 year old guys
out for a night together.
1276
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,200
Have some fun hokey fans.
I'm a I'm going to have fun with
1277
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:14,100
them.
Yeah, it was awesome.
1278
01:19:16,700 --> 01:19:17,800
Yeah.
I mean, he definitely
1279
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,900
understands how to read the
people that he's interacting
1280
01:19:21,900 --> 01:19:25,200
with when he when he talks about
building relationships.
1281
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:31,700
I think being a guy that can
read folks quickly and and
1282
01:19:31,700 --> 01:19:35,300
understand how to approach them
that that's a skill.
1283
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,000
And a lot of times it's a skill
that's very hard to learn and
1284
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:44,400
he's got it.
You know whether that translates
1285
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,100
to two more wins on the
recruiting Trail Forest, long
1286
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:50,800
term is to be seen but in terms
of just interacting with the
1287
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:55,500
fans and being the type of coach
that gets the fanbase
1288
01:19:55,500 --> 01:20:01,600
enthusiastic about what they're
doing, I mean we got a winner on
1289
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:06,700
that front.
So we'll see if we can keep Keep
1290
01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:10,400
the wind's coming as we roll
into the season on that front
1291
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:14,400
but it's true.
Well, I think as we were I can't
1292
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,500
remember.
I said it to you give the guy
1293
01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:19,700
six years.
I mean, because we are in a
1294
01:20:19,700 --> 01:20:21,900
rebuild.
We're in a very tumultuous time.
1295
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:24,800
You can't give him three years
and expect him to be at nine.
1296
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,400
Ten wins a year.
If he doesn't wonderful, if it
1297
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,500
doesn't, I'm in for the Long
Haul with this one.
1298
01:20:32,300 --> 01:20:34,900
But another thing notice Pronto,
we had our moment.
1299
01:20:34,900 --> 01:20:37,100
We talk with him because
Minutes, we went on, we got our
1300
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:38,700
dinner.
He was there.
1301
01:20:38,700 --> 01:20:41,500
Good.
Our he did not have to be there
1302
01:20:41,500 --> 01:20:45,000
after after he finished speaking
after he finished and just
1303
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talking to people taking
pictures sign and having a
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01:20:47,907 --> 01:20:49,900
conversation.
Just again, that's where we
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noticed.
Whoever you were is who he was
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going to adapt to it.
I think that's why he's such a
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01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:00,900
good recruiter because he is
going to adapt and figure out
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what's my Baseline for you?
What's my Baseline for you?
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Yeah.
I'm still going to be me, but
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I'm going to figure out what
part of me and you connect the
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best.
And when you have a guy like
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that, you know what, you always
say brown bat for one day, if
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01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,500
Wednesday would have just had a
little personality, he would
1314
01:21:19,500 --> 01:21:24,300
have got a little more Slack.
Prai has the personality and if
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01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:27,200
we win something like six game,
if we only won five games, I
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01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,800
think some people are going to
say he walked into a shitty
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01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,000
situation.
This year, you know, the
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01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,900
recruiting Bridges have been
burned all over the state all
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01:21:34,900 --> 01:21:37,300
over the region.
This guy's got to rebuild job to
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01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:39,500
do.
Yeah, yeah.
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01:21:39,500 --> 01:21:42,400
Bridges burned.
All over the State roster in
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01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:46,200
shambles.
It's a bad one.
1323
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,000
Two punch, right?
You got you had to rebuild a
1324
01:21:48,008 --> 01:21:50,400
roster, but you also have to
rebuild the relationships to
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01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:54,900
help you build that roster.
So he's doing a good job of
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01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:57,500
laying that Foundation that
we're talking about birth from a
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01:21:57,500 --> 01:22:00,600
culture standpoint and from a
relationship standpoint with
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01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:05,200
players coaches, all the all the
folks in the state and all the
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01:22:05,208 --> 01:22:08,100
folks in the footprint.
So I think we're on the right
1330
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:14,400
track from that perspective, you
will see long term how the fit
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01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:19,300
is, but I think in terms of just
You know who he is, as a coach.
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01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:22,400
And that that side, I think we
got to, we got to hit here.
1333
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,800
We got a big hit here.
All right, Brian.
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01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,400
Anything breaking over the last
little while here.
1335
01:22:30,500 --> 01:22:32,400
I don't see anything man.
I think we're good.
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01:22:32,700 --> 01:22:36,400
All right, let's wrap it.
Wraps up this episode of The
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Boundary Corner podcast, I am
Curtis Wilson.
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01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,700
I'm Brian Sigler.
Visit our website at boundary
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01:22:42,700 --> 01:22:46,500
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01:22:46,500 --> 01:22:48,200
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01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,300
three of our listeners.
We got to meet this week.
1345
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,200
Appreciate you guys coming out
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01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,800
It was really cool.
Don't be afraid to message us.
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01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:15,100
You're now officially you put a
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01:23:15,300 --> 01:23:18,300
while we're Chad and regardless
what it's about and or sanctum
1349
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:23,800
inner sanctum, we always let our
buddy, Jason long plate Us in
1350
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,400
and he plays us out checking on
his new website.
1351
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:31,200
Jason Long music.com where you
can link to all of his music, on
1352
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,500
Apple Spotify, and his YouTube
and Facebook pages this weekend.
1353
01:23:35,500 --> 01:23:38,900
He's going to be at The Grandin
Farmers Market down in Roanoke,
1354
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:42,400
in August 6, at outer space out
in Floyd County.
1355
01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:46,100
So, check them out.
There, we thank you for
1356
01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:48,800
listening and as always, let's
go.
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01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:50,300
Okay.