Syracuse Game Preview

0:46 Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson, I'm Brian siglo buddy. We got a Wednesday night. We got the braised play in. Get the braised playing. We've got some fun build action down at appstate down in Boone. Third, Jamie Chadwell at Coastal Carolina closely here tonight. You know, one of those, why would you be doing that Curtis, you know, good and well while I'm doing it I will be attempting to do with other Coaches and coordinators in the upcoming weeks, but good.

1:32 Good. You told me class didn't last. As long tonight. Brian. Not a little short one tonight. Nothing too big. We're in full on group project mode now. So yeah. Fun stuff. Full full steam ahead. Yeah, it's just kind of a check in and see how everything's going type deal. So nothing, nothing too big tonight, very nice, very nice middle midweek here on a Wednesday on a hump day, we head to the back end of the weekend and, you know, Brian, we've been sitting here kind of talking and you know, talking about those vacancies and I tell you what, we've got a bunch of head coach and vacancies already or some blue buds.

2:15 Some other lower-level jobs or Lord, P5 jobs, and probably some potential. But you know, we started talking about it and you look at USC fine play Walton. They were in early, they were in really early. Yeah. Um, that sounded like one of those things, the second, he loses a game of ironing and then Ed urge Iran. Who pulls off the big upset in Death Valley of Florida Saturday night. Yeah, but it does sound like this was arranged well before that big hand for them and it may have been one of those things where you know he knew the air was over coached a little more loose that team looked probably as good as they looked this. So this whole year so far so good for them. But you know Coach O out after this year they mutually agreed to part ways.

3:11 There's been Whispers of female Canyons participating in practice we all contains kids participate. Like if so that is going to be whoever writes that book is going to make a lot of money just to know everything about kocho and what happened there and I'm not knocking coach, oh I love him not being my coach but I don't think he's a fit at Virginia Tech mainly because several reasons and some of it has to do with what we just talked about. But, you know, I know he won a national championship, but if you are still having trouble, putting the pieces together with the resources and Facilities, that LSU puts at your disposal.

4:00 Then Virginia Tech, probably not for you, not for you at all. Not at all. But now the other one is wazoo. The bitch got fired YouTube State back. That is going to be a freaking score to follow because he is now suing the school? Yeah, it's going to go in and the stuff in Tennessee is starting. I mean, I know that that's not a vacancy but they're the stuff that they're there. And well through it Pruitt's, put a lawsuit up there against the university for the full full compliments of the of the buyout and other Damages. So it could get really ugly there and I thought he got fired straight up and they just had to take the buyout.

4:47 Did they? Did they, did they attempted not to pay the buyout? That's my understanding. I need to, I probably need to read the article again, just to get a better understanding without that was my understanding is that I guess because of the Sanctions. That would be my guess is they were trying to essentially, they're trying to. They're trying to not pay the man. Yeah, even though fired with with, with calls with cause. So he's going to just come out and be like, Yeah, The A-Team you all about this Phillip Fulmer knew all about us, being all players, and then it'd be like, we might need to kill this program but bags begs.

5:28 All right, so let's, let's let's, let's also Talk about potentially Miami and FSU Diaz is on the absolute hottest of hot seats. I mean, yeah, d as a seat is as hot or hotter than 20 days and we know Fuentes is on fire. So in case is on fire Diaz is in Gold. Yeah. Meaning God, like it's just, it's all up and down and, you know, I told you earlier today, Brian. Miami. Just they can't find the right guy. And the thing is, what I don't think people understand about when they were winning cooker. Had nothing to do with them, winning that team was so talented.

6:13 Anyone could have walked in there that just you have a code simple drills and they would have warm. It's, as simple as that and you saw as the as butchers Talent level went off as did Coker, but butch was a hard-nosed coach. Dennis Erickson was a hard-nosed coach Jimmy Johnson and our show. Le Berger were super hard news coaches. Yep, those were guys who commanded the locker room and sense. Basically, I guess you can say Butch left. They haven't had anybody like that. And they were like, well we brought back, you know, Randy Shannon played on the team, right? Randy played on the team Manny like, but the whole thing is you literally have to in some ways you have Have to break that locker room. Break it.

7:02 And that state just took something to the house. So, Chad Wells. Down got a name gotten coach defense. Don't want to, but you you, if you look at those coaches and what they brought in since then, none of them have that, none of them have that mentality of, like, I am the boss here inside here, we do. As I say, I don't care what you do out there and I don't think Miami is A program that can get back to where it was without a guy like that. And they keep going for culture fits and it would not Shock me one. Bit at they fired. Manny Diaz and they hired and read, it wouldn't shock me when I.

7:48 Oh, yeah. And that's a because. What is he right now? Defensive consultant for them? No, no. He is the, he's the general manager. He is the like, the head of player Personnel, okay? Okay. So, how do I knew? He had some role in the team right now? I wasn't sure what it was. Yeah, the director of player personnel, which is a in college nowadays. That is a pretty big role. It's becoming more and more of a role, but that could see them doing that. Now, it now could Ed, who was one of the boys become Ed to God, who cracks down on things, maybe, maybe because it is that type of player, You know that could potentially happen. The other one, you brought up which I shook my head at no. You told me FSU, right?

8:44 FSU, and in, if they can pay the buyout, then I think they make it. They take a chance on it now, can they pay a buyout after still send champagne, Willie tagger money. That's the question, but and do use hit the reset button on something after two years after you, just hit the reset button. Essentially after You know, one full season of the previous, two tenured coach. So fsu's going to be the interesting one to watch just because they're used to winning and they're not. But they've already dug themselves a hole because of how fast they moved on from Taggart. They dug himself a deep hole financially with tagger, but I think what they're digging themselves into a deeper hole with is not giving guys time.

9:40 And eventually just keeping the ball eventually, you know, we're going to give two years, two years. Like you can't rebuild a program in two years. Yeah, can't okay, if you have talent there, if you're trying to implement stuff very, very seldom. Do you come in that something's a dumpster fire, get the fire. Put out and start rolling again. You just don't. Yeah and I mean you still dealing with one of those Seasons being a covid-19 Season 2, which I mean, funky, everyone was dealing with but that definitely puts you behind in terms of development. Well, development and installation, right? Let me know. Bill had no time to input the offense of the defensive wanted to run, but I say it more to this.

10:24 Brian. If you were a G5, your billing Napier, your Jamie Chadwell and FSU comes knocking on your door. Hey, come on down here, man. Would you not stop for pause and say, dude, you're giving people a year and a half or two years? Yeah, you know, definitely definitely too. Quick of a For a coach that doesn't see your program as a stepping stone. Exactly. See if they see your program as a stepping stone, then by all means. It's it's still an attractive gig, but if they see if they want their next gig to be, you know, a potential decade run at least the Hecate run, 35 years, you sure. Yeah. They're not looking at at FSU, not looking at FSU at all.

11:09 So Buddy, he's asking why the hell are you guys talking about this? Well because there's going to be Fallout because again our our minds are where they are. The season is over this this era is over the Fuente 10 years over. And you've got to look at essentially who could be, where's the Fallout? So let's let's play the role game Brian. Because this is how we're going to figure it out. All right, first of all. I honest to God, think? There's no way, James Franklin doesn't go to USC. Yeah, exactly. That's that's more than likely happening. That's what happens. So, you're so you're talking about and here's where the couple things that the vacancies themselves.

11:54 Don't necessarily hurt us, but who's filling the vacancies could hurt us. Yep. Exactly. And so now Penn State in are more or less, geographic region is now looking for a new head coach and Program lies there about A step above us. There's the terms of in terms of being an attractive program attracted program money, but I think with who they are, I think they have the potential. I think our topping guys would be on their radar. That's my. Yeah, that's my Truth. All right. So start thinking of all your names that you can throw out there, Billy Napier, Jamie Chadwell Dan Lanning.

12:39 This It goes on and on and on and on. But now let's look at LSU. The other is you job, which just won a national title two years ago? Well, different. I think most people because you think he took over and what 1616, right? Yeah, it was there five years, he had good success. The last few seasons have been rough based on the other stories that are coming out. And that's why he was like a, if he was still wanting between eight and ten games issue without the shenanigans. I don't think they fire it up. I just don't, I think maybe next year, but if LSU goes, So, where are they going to? You know, I think they're looking at a else party. Mel Tucker, Mel Tucker.

13:31 Now, if Tucker goes and Tucker Coast down there in the early 2000s, like Mel, Tucker go to Michigan State. To me is a program exactly like us similar Blue Collar, you know, similar type portfolio. I'll say that portfolio. Now, the same level people that you would say, we're probably more attractive because of where we play. They play in the Big Ten East with Ohio, State and Penn State and Michigan, but they've still been able to win a conference title and go to the playoffs from there.

14:12 So. But it's also that point to where You know, if you think of somebody like what a Marcus Freeman or a loop fickle, take that job, it's party. Being of how State guys would they go in conference to play their alma mater every year? I don't think Freeman does. Well actually, I don't think tickle does. I think thick where they are with Cincinnati right now and how the big 12 reshaped? I think they they are where they are. I think I think fickle is going to hold until he can get the job. He absolutely 100% wants at a Blueblood School, potentially his alma mater again with with. Yeah, with With sincere move into the Big 12 that that kind of creates a situation where he's not in a second-tier conference anymore.

15:07 If he gets the wins, he needs to get every year. He will be playing for college football playoff. Yeah. So that, that, that that takes him out of that having to essentially be perfect category. Yeah, and I think that's going to be enough for him to kind of move. Pain with that if that situation. Yeah. And then you start thinking about Miami and FSU, you know, they're still higher than us. Miami can pay more clearly, FSU more clout. But then what you mentioned, what you said earlier was, would you say? You talked about the way those programs are viewed.

15:48 They start coming. They start seeping into potential are coachable, right? Yeah. Yeah, you know if those Open. And it's not just the conference thing, but it's definitely because of the the recruiting footprint and everything else, they're going to be looking at similar tiered candidates to who we're looking at, you know, they're their top guy. Might be some someone that's out of our range. But their number two choice is probably our number one or somewhere in that ballpark. So that's going to be interesting to see how that shapes out. And whether both of those come open, But I mean in the pecking order here you know we're at least going to be probably forth on the totem pole.

16:33 Right. Yeah. Come if that's the the way wit decides to go with the end of the season in which we think that's what what should happen. So yeah we think that's what should happen. What's going to tell the story and I won't? And what would Bob Costas going to look at is what the stadiums and look like Saturday. Yeah, 56 or 57. Last Saturday and looked good, but if it starts getting under 50 and it could very well do that and it starts looking very scarce. He's got to look longer term. That's why we were advocating last year. Like you have to look longer term because right now, if we were 3 and 3 with a brand new coach and we were a few going away from being Notre Dame in one possession away from being West, Virginia on the road Regardless, what happens in the pit game. People are like, we're on the right track, they just had a great game against us.

17:24 That's what be saying, right? Right? Yeah. And I mean, let's be honest, I mean I know some of some of this was a little bit of conservative move heading into a big funding push. Yeah. But at the same time, there's nothing that buoys a big funding push like the honeymoon effect of a new coach Liam, right? Danilo. Let's see how much everyone will still have hope and that that's what's lacking from the I think. Overall the fan base right now is that there's still some hope but I think people are done they don't have confidence in that hope anymore.

18:05 No there's zero confidence and you bring a new guy in. You get a little bit more confidence and people are looser with their dollars when they feel like there's a chance that it pays dividends for them. Absolutely. So in the oncoming week, folks, I'm sure will be probably talking more about some of the potential candidates. Obviously, someone like Wazoo, you know, what if I were them honest to God. Truth, if they could hire Justin Fuente and just say, leave the core Nelson guy on your flight over somewhere while every piece of Missouri, right. Kansas and Missouri. Just just, just touched down in st. Louis, and be like, Great.

18:47 Knowing you, I'm going to go to Poland. It's been fun. Hadn't been real, fun. Exactly. Alright, some hokey notes Here on Brian. Let's talk about the booze at the intro. Thank do some, some boots on the ground and some listening re listening to the videotape. Literally they waited, they waited, they waited head coach, Justin Fuente burn And then it and that that wasn't the only time that he was booed in the, in that game. Because once the offense started to struggle mightily in the first half, they were raining down again.

19:32 And at some point, when your Boos don't get responses, you just, you go home and that's what happened at halftime. That's that is what happened after he got the end of the. The one that was taken about six or seven. This for the end of the game that was really ugly. That's I don't think I've ever seen link that thin. Yeah, you know in a game now we sit here and he was asked the question, right? He was asked a question and he and he answered it. He answered it correctly. It's part of the job. You get criticized, you just have to deal with it. Don't you? Wish you had a gave a Bret. Bielema answer, though.

20:14 Did you did hear about that, right? I did. Oh my god. Did. Yeah. Hey Brett, you got, you got a prime, your Bret, Bielema coach, the booze were coming down pretty hard. What do you think about that? Fuck those guys and I'm scared. I'm rich here. You don't come here again, what? Yeah, you know, it is a part of football, at least, he said in that way, and not some douchey answer, but I think it will continue on Saturday when he comes out. If the offense struggles, heck, I even think he could get booed if we win. We won.

20:58 Yay Booth. Unless we go out there and handle our business for four quarters. There's no way that there's aren't there's not more booze coming out this this Saturday. Yeah it's if it's been a it's been a rough go man. It's been a rough go. It has been other news and notes from the Hokies Peter Moore. The Freshman is a midseason. Freshman All-American. Congrats Peter Is he still working on his throwing arm? I hope he is, because we're going to need at least one fake pass to win some at least one or two more.

21:42 He's got to get a little bit more juice on the next one. Yeah, you can't do that. Now, I don't think you'll be passing anymore. But on the other hand, you know, we might do something crazy. You still want to have that in your back pocket, it is good for him, but legitimately I can say this if Peter Moore was a bad punter, the season would Be worse. Oh yeah, I mean field position is has been huge if we could just I mean we haven't turned the ball over a lot, but if we could stop, you know, given that one turnover, a game and giving the offense the other offenses short field, I mean, yeah, we be averaging about, you know, three to six points less surrendered on defense and that that's probably an extra winner to so yeah, Peter more fields.

22:32 Mission making the other offense Drive the field. It's worked in our favor so far. So keep it up bud. You know job. All right news about Devon hundred Dean Ferguson Dean obviously I do not recall seeing under Keshawn ones out there. Devon obviously hurt during the game both out for the year. Definitely hurts depth at positions where we're okay? I think it hurts a linebacker and a little bit more, I think Dean's kind of looking like that next guy. Yeah. Now Keshawn is going to get the rotations and Keyshawn to me.

23:13 He made some errors Saturday, but overall for his half he played solid. Yeah. I've got no, big-time notes. There were a couple times where the defense look like, they weren't quite aligned and that was probably the area that he was going to be the most uncomfortable with just Because that does take reps, and just being out there. Consistently do. It's hard to get the mental reps of making those calls and get everybody and seeing everything in real time because say what you will, you can practice it, but if you don't sometimes see in the other team, do it. It just, it feels different. You just got to get a feel for it. So that's one thing. I mean, obviously, you know, Devin Hunter. We thought he was going to play a little bit more of a role in The Roots rotation at safety.

24:00 Has it really been that been primarily a specialty? Teams player still has hell. Yeah, hell of a story. The fact the fact that he's even on this team and making any impact was a big story so you know, sad to see him go down with the injury, on a special Team snap this past week. So yeah, best best of luck to them healing up but on the next on to the next, well, the next brine is Sunday night. Yeah. Yeah, it's a big one, gold miners, or podcast, Colts Niners. One of the teams will be at three wins.

24:42 You guys will likely get Jimmy G or potentially Nate subfield. Yikes I'm not I have your the Colts defense and fantasy. I'm not benching them. They're playing and teaching them but I don't know I just I don't feel good about the way everything's been handled way Brandon. I uh been handled the way the whole quarterback situation has been handled, you know, I really think y'all are probably going to win the game. I think it's going to be a fun game to watch. Yeah, we're definitely trending in the right, right direction. The last few weeks even even taking the loss to Baltimore, you know.

25:26 We showed the one that guy that won that game. I know, I know. But so you're showing fighting showing that, you know, we could take care and run run with pretty much anybody in the league. Yeah you know few steps in a couple games and we're for and to instead of two and four so well and I'm the same way with those weird. Two and three. And we've lost the last three weeks by three, seven and seven and we've lost to Aaron Russell and collar. Yep. And we kept collar under 20 points where the only team to do that this year. So in literally, with Rogers, we were here that out Sunday night without episode. Literally we scored with 40 seconds. Left and 42nd was just too much time and we couldn't stop it. Yep.

26:16 We've lost by a combined 17 points to best team in the league. One of the best quarterbacks in the league and another of the best quarterbacks in the league. Yeah. Well, what can we do? And we're kind of the same same thing as me. We lost a Russell, we lost to the Rams. And then we had a singular fourth quarter takeover by Lamar Jackson to throw us another L and then just a grind Fest that we came up short on against Tennessee. Yeah. And y'all in y'all also have been battling injuries, everybody that will injuries but with your quarterback Bang. And you're all pro-gard. Bang a little different. The defense was a little banged up, you know, I think we're finally getting a little healthy and I think a lot of guys have settled in we get T why bag that was a kind of a lift this past week.

27:09 So I think it's I think it's gonna be a good game regardless probably I would go, I don't know what the over-under is but I'd probably take the under in this one just because I think it's going to be more defensive than, than that. People think. Oh, yeah, it's definitely too. It's definitely two top. Ten defense has without a doubt and the over-under Net game for Santa is 44. So I think they've actually got that pig. That's about right? Yeah, right. And it's yours a four-point, favor actually. Weirdly in the for. Okay. They are given us home two plus two. Somebody else get hurt. You don't know about or is Carson limping around that you don't know.

27:53 No not that I know of I know T. Why is he had a little bit of a quad? I mean at the end of the game but he's they said he's good to go for the game. So Hmm. Interesting, interesting. All right Brian before we get into reviewing the Syracuse offense and defense and knowing the enemy. We are going to take a quick pause for a message from our digital partners. As we take a quick break, we'd like to tell you about getting your free website report from our digital partner, Grassroots, digital marketing Studio. They'll tell you how your website ranks on Google on-site, SEO and social media. No commitment to buy anything. You can get your free report by visiting.

28:35 Grassroots digital studio.com forward slash free Dash website, Dash report. Now back to the episode Alright guys, so Know The Enemy we're going to take a look first at Syracuse has offense and Brian you kind of noted to me. This is a power, smash power, Smash Mouth spread, heavy read option and we see it. So we're going to kick it off with the offensive line. You know, that offense is average and 231 yards a game. They've only given up twenty four tackles for loss 38th in the nation, only 103 yards on that. So just that four yards, which Is it for tackle for a loss? That's unbelievable.

29:17 It's really good. Just again, how much they run. They've only given up 15 sacks. Now, I will say this, they've only passed the ball 175 times, so they are giving up sacks about 15% of their drop backs. Maybe a little something to take an I own, but what are you seeing from this offensive line? Because I wish we were running for 231 yards a game. I think we wouldn't have lost a game yet. Yeah, the big thing like you've already noted there but they really don't have a lot of negative plays on the offensive side of the ball. They work well as a unit and they do a really good job of minimizing penetration in the backfield. There's no real standout player per se, but there, I mean, there's just a bunch of really good solid players across the board that do their jobs.

30:05 Well, they're above average in past Pro. They do have the propensity on some of the drawbacks because they don't pass often when they are passing, it's in those moments. More obvious passing situations that can tend to, you know, cause that sack ratio to get a little bit out of whack, but they just do a really good job of pushing, guys off the line really good. You know, ball get off. And it's going to be a long day for that that defensive line, they're going to have to work the whole game and it's going to be a struggle. Yep. Bravo's don't fuck this up. Sorry, man, 52. Now, bottom five and maybe the one big upside and some people are heard Saul somewhere.

30:56 If it was a tweet or maybe in conversations with someone, they're like, well this is like what Notre Dame did but souped-up the difference is though we do not go into the Notre Dame game prepared for it. The if you were, if he came in it was like if he comes in it's going to be a play at least with this. We have that prep time and Brawn we absolutely need to prep time because Sean Tucker the 510 200-pound running back. I'm out of Townsend. Maryland a three-star. He is second in the country and Russia he is at 948 yards. He's averaging over 6 Carrie.

31:38 He's ninth and touchdowns. He's got nine already in seven games. He's not a he's not a one. One trick pony. Either 224 yards receiving on 14 catches with a couple touchdowns there much like Khalil Herbert was last year. He's top five. He's number two and all-purpose yards. Yep. What are you seeing from mr. Tucker on the tape. The thing that jumps off immediately is that he runs hard through arm tackles, he has great vision and patients at the point of attack but he does when he gets to the second level he is a big play threat.

32:19 He's got second level speeds, got home run speed. If he gets in the open field, he will make you pay and he is deceptively good in the screen and short passing game, they run him a lot on kind of like those quick running back outs. They get the ball to him in the Green game and he's just really good at turning up field getting good yardage making guys, miss. And like I said, the big thing for him is that he is a home run threat. So it's not just a guy that we have to contain and make sure he doesn't, you know, nickel and dime has, but we also got to stop him from banging. The big play on us. I hear you Brian and the thing that I kind of noticed about their offensive there's nobody behind him, really? He is the horse dip, right?

33:07 He is 11, he's not there's not an A or B, there's not a spelled a true spell there. This this is his show. So you know, it's key obviously the stop him and when you hear all those things especially that second level, I mean that's what we're missing, right? The other method than the home run. Hitter like we had last year and, you know, it's really funny because every year it's like this is why football is one of the more amazing Sports three-star guy out of Maryland, we didn't recruit him on the UVA recruited him, he had like four or five offers it goes up to Syracuse and now he's I'm sure what that skillset, Brian.

33:48 He's probably already being looked at in the NFL because again with the scheme with the past catching ability, I mean, he's putting on tape. I don't know if he's a senior Junior. I did not look that far. I want to say. You have that information up. I thought he was a junior, but I'm not certain. Give me a second here. I had everything up. I needed earlier and I completely took it down. Completely took it down. There we go. Effort in here. I just want to see where he's at, because I see a guy like this and especially the kind of scheme, they're running. I would not mind him in San Francisco. We're still efforting folks.

34:33 I'm going to get there eventually freshman. Sorry, he's a, he's a roll, he's a second year, freshman, ouch, that hurts for him. You're not supposed to blow up your second year, freshman year, you're supposed to grow up your third year, you can get through this. All right? So but Again, with the crossover being Atlantic, we're not going to probably see him again. All right, Brian? There is one more element to this rushing attack in. That is the Mississippi State transfer, who was a four-star out of Charlotte, 64, 230 pounds, Garrett Schrader passing stats, very pedestrian. Obviously we've already said that's not what they're going to do. You know, only completing 53 percent of his passes for 810 yards, five touchdowns three interceptions but buddy, Kenny run the ball. 400 400 plus yards, averaging over five carry nine touchdowns.

35:28 What are you seeing from this big athletic guy? Who transferred from Mississippi State and 2020. Why didn't we? Well I guess if we're talking Mississippi State transfer Syracuse got the better of that against UVA, right? That's true. That's it. And that's no disrespect to their football player football player but yeah, in terms of actually on the field production, Garrett Schrader's, get it done for them, he's an absolute legit. Rushing thread in that offense can run past you and occasionally run over you. He will put a shoulder into you and kind of plow forward for that first down, adequate arm strength, he's not swinging it deep.

36:16 Accuracy is very average but he does just enough to compliment the rushing attack. But what he really is great at is that read-option, he's really, he's got a knack for when to keep it when he keeps it he makes takes it up. Field gets good yardage in the Run game so he really has a good feel for that and that's what's been able to keep this thing moving. Because you know, even when you do stack the box they're still because there's that that element there. It's hard to really get a, get a good feel for it on defense. That's right. So what are they like? I mean you mentioned read-option. I mean is it just strict read-option, he's going the opposite way, are they running any inverted beers and he leads any powers with them?

36:57 It's a little bit of everything, not so much the inverted v r but a little bit of everything else, but it's probably it's primarily the read option that that's their bread and butter, okay? So, they're not, they're not doing a lot of other stuff. They're essentially in, why would you with a guy like tuck? It's in the play but like other stuff is in the Playbook, but it's more of Say it's dialed up at specific times. It's not something that they're calling every drive. Just from looking at how the they're calling their games. I guess because of the jailed offensive line into threats like that the lack of a passing attack really doesn't hurt them that much. It doesn't hurt them too much it only hurts them when you can do a good job on 1st and 2nd down and get them off schedule. Like I said the the a don't really pass the ball unless they have to.

37:49 It's not quite Georgia Tech levels of real whistling in the ball on, you know, third and ten when we're down a touchdown or more. It's not quite that level but it is, they're not going to put the ball. It's it's going to be if if they're going to put the ball in a receivers hand and it's not in a third and long situation, it's in the short passing game usually to Sean Tucker. Yeah. Because you've already mentioned it their wide receivers have not done much. I would say keep an eye out for Courtney Jackson. Definitely their lead. A wide receiver but also watch out for this team. A big guy wide receiver, 66 Damian Alfred, he's only got about 12 catches but he's averaging over 20. Excuse me, only has about seven catches. He's averaging over 20, catch those. So that big guy, they potentially just Chuck it up to downfield.

38:48 But like you said Tucker, with what he does, he is essentially, I think he is actually leading the team. Which is kind of, if you're a Syracuse fan, that's kind of a little bit sad, right? Like the running back, leading our team in passing catching, he is, he's leading the team in pass-catching. So for us, we're not going any more offensive players. Disrupt their line. Stop these two guys we win this football game. Yep. That's it. Yeah. And because nothing's nothing scares me about third and long them dropping back and having to get it into a wide receiver consistently.

39:32 Yeah, nothing about that scares. Me and every game they've lost this year or three, the three ACC games they've lost is all been three points. They lost to Rutgers by 10 so it's not like the losses are all they lost it. FSU they lost a Clemson. They're getting their doors normal. Know they easily. Could have won those games as they did lose them. So that's kind of the worry part in the other War Paulette slip it over. Brian, their defense is good. I mean, Tony whites defense. He's a walking long disciple. If you're watching San Diego State and some of the late games, this year, always a grind Fest. You know, what type of defense is he running hearing on good old? 35 stack baby.

40:19 Godly have we not seen that. Let's think we've seen that as either a base or as a multiple front of like three defense has so far. Exactly. Three defense has so far. I'm trying to think it would have been Notre Dame West Virginia. And now it yet Notre Dame in West Virginia. Both have 33 as one of their one of their fronts that they will show. All right, this is this is the first true 335 base where you're going to see that look pretty much every snap in some way, shape, or form. And the big guy up front that you got to watch out for is Cody Roscoe. He is the defensive end.

41:03 He is an absolute disgrace. Disruptor in the Run, game gets really good. Penetration loves the time the snap count and just kind of blow up an offensive play. He's also an Elite pass rusher from that that kind of you know, that three-man front D and position. Does it does a really good job of impacting the game from there? And he absolutely must be neutralized for any sustained success in the ground game, whether you run a dim or away from him, he does a good job of making plays and get into the football. Yeah, well that doesn't make me feel good but I tell you what kind of crazy as his backstory. Braun Roscoe's, from Houston Texas. He came out as a 2 Star.

41:52 Now, listen to this, he came out as a 2 Star inside linebacker, when he came out. Ha, ha ha kid. You not, he, he, he originally went to McNeese State and then with covid happening to me, any state that division essentially canceling, he transferred over to Syracuse in 2020 and he's 61, he's 275. So he's even you think three technique, even a little bit undersized for a three technique? But obviously, the way you mentioned the get off the Paul mean he's killing. He's got thirty, three tackles, he's got seven and a half sacks. X and ten tackles for loss. So he's getting a sack of game. Um, you know, is he primarily on the left or the right side of the offensive line, when he lines up, he's primarily lining up on the offense has left, right?

42:44 So he will go against one of our better. Guys in Libya, at least we are going somewhat big on big in that situation. All right? Yeah but he's not the only problem Brian the next to look at is we're going to take a look. At Stephen Thompson, Malik Jones Jones, 61 220 64. Tackles one sack five-and-a-half, tackles for loss had four interceptions last year. Should definitely have some ball skills. There he comes from ING as a three-star to me. I don't you don't play it. I am G as a three-star, so probably somebody missed an eval on him Thompson, 612, 3543 tackles three tackles for loss Two forced fumbles, his numbers are already starting to look significantly better than its 2020 year. He's out of Charlotte three-star. Guy, what are you seeing out of this Duo? Who's the Mike who's the will, and what do they bring to the table?

43:43 So you have three backer said in both of these guys are the outside, guys. So this is the will and the Sam for Jones and Thompson respectively, their primary blitzers from the linebacker position. So, you know, they usually bring the three-man front. And usually an extra guy most Downs, sometimes that's the Mike but usually it's going to be Sam or will they both do a really good job blitzing and the run and the past and they do a good job remaining under control when they're coming down hill in those run blitzes. I think that's that's important because a lot of times some of those guys come out of control, they end up making the whole wider than it needs to be and you get a big Ali up the gut, they don't do that.

44:28 They're pretty pretty sound in that and neither are our liabilities and coverage, they're actually pretty good. They primarily cover the tight end or running back in coverage responsibilities, they'll have different areas of the field in zone but they do a good job in both of those techniques and you got to account for them every snap. And, you know, the only upside is that, you know, coming from second level unless they time it different. You can least see where they're coming from, but the big problem, That you don't know which ones coming at you at any given snap. All right, well, obviously a good. You go there on the outside? Obviously making noise making numbers.

45:10 I think what worries me? Well, what? What I would say would worry me would be the running back in the tight end stuff but how we've called our offense, the last few weeks there's really no concern there for it because we aren't putting that in the Playbook. We're not throwing to our tight ends or H bags, or running bags with any degree of consistency. The last few weeks. It seems like as soon as As we lost James Mitchell, those elements of the offense kind of went bye-bye, which is kind of weird. Yeah, yeah, the HVAC being being like a linchpin of the Fuente offense and now it's, you know, we get one injury and we can completely move away from. I don't know if that's lack of trust in the guys that we still have their or if it's just designed the end that you'd it is ineptitude because we Talked about it when James went down, right?

46:04 Although you weren't perfect, they're not James, James is an Elite Talent gallo and Drake have Their good qualities and we're not seeing it. They're using Gallo exactly like they used to when James Mitchell is on the field. They're not taking they've taken advantage like one time of Drake's athleticism so it's ineptitude, they don't like it soon as you take something off the table for this offensive staff is like what do we do? What do we do? I don't, we don't know what to do. I don't know to do my fingers, I don't know what to do. I think the I think the bad part is that, that yeah, they did finally go to Gallo. He had that drop, I think On a third down against your last week and then as soon as soon as I have it, all right, well you're back in the doghouse, like go blog. You give these guys some confidence like trust that they're going to make some plays. I mean, right now, they're not playing with confidence and you're not doing anything to help them gain confidence. All right, so as good as they have really solid players at the first and second levels, even though this guy is not leading the team in interceptions, even though he You know he has some good stats but Garrett William six-foot, 190 defensive back. 32 tackles three tackles for loss is zero interceptions. The guy's got six past deflections already this year. He's out of Harrisburg, North Carolina. He was a three-star when he came out. What are you seeing from Williams? Its heat.

47:35 Is he making these numbers because he's like a nickel or is he playing on the outside? He's played on the outside, he's actually there. Lockdown guy. Why? So, he doesn't get targeted a ton. He doesn't have the stats because they're not throwing at him. A ton. They're not testing him a ton, and when they do, he's getting in there and breaking things up here. You know, they tend to put him on, whoever the Deep threat is for the offense. And while he has given up a couple deep balls, he gave up one against Wake Forest in particular. That I remember, which I know that that is a, the, a unique way of how they go deep in that, Pain. So that's a little different, but has given up a couple big plays but has also came in there and broken up some really key plays as well that that stopped the other offense from from getting touchdown. So he's going to be the guy to watch. He's the guy that you know, could potentially cause Trey Turner to have a long day.

48:34 Wouldn't surprise me whatsoever and just, you know, again, Syracuse was looked at potentially the laughingstock of the ACC. We both pick that we'd win this game. I think we might be whoo. Yeah, but I made a boo-boo there, but, you know, their top 10 and sacks their top 20 Total Defense. The only given up 114, rushing yards a game So they are a good defense, there are three and four. But you know, the defense is definitely not the reason. And the way the offense plays Brian, let's flip it over to the 8th of version of the Hokies. Can the offense just do something anything. Can they anything?

49:19 Anything? Anything. It's don't look a pathetic. Don't look, no. Good luck competent for at least. Three quarters. And that's where it's just like. It's so tough to see it because there's there's so much bad going on right? Yep. So much bad going on that like you've always talked about keep things. Simple, do things simple. And that's a and they're trying even lower than that to me there. Some of the stuff they're running is like, I don't want to say pee wee football but it's definitely middle or high school football that we're going to do this and this and this and you're sitting here like the guys over there and that Booth are getting paid three, four hundred, five hundred thousand dollars.

50:09 Some more to stop this, not think they're going to see it. Yep. You got think they're going to see what you're doing. So you know, sorry for the rant know. You said there were two other big keys for you. Yeah, it's the two other keys are going to be keep time of possession, even much as they run the football if we can keep time of possession, even that probably bodes well for the outcome of the game for us. And the last thing is and I've said this is kind of been a weekly theme since what? Middle Tennessee, not thy sin. It's since West Virginia. West Virginia is Middle Tennessee. You hated what?

50:52 They did that. They didn't try to get him comfortable. Yeah. So yeah, since West Virginia get Braixen, Burmeister comfortable early, give him easy throws. Give him throws. He's comfortable with get him in a Groove. So that when you do start adding in those intermediate and deeper routes into the offense, as the as the plays go along as the series go along, you know, he's throwing those with confidence, their receivers have confidence in him there, making plays for him. It kind of feeds off of each other right now, we don't have any confidence on that offense. They're like, afraid to make mistakes and because they're afraid to make mistakes. They're not making plays.

51:40 It's true and they're afraid to make mistakes. They're not being put in good positions, there's no aggressiveness. There's, it's almost like someone thinks it's a coded year again. And well, this year, doesn't matter. Because we've heard those stories, right? Yeah. We're not. We're not dealing with that this year, guys, know, we're not dealing with that at all this year. All right. Let me ask this brine. Let's go over to the defensive side of the ball real quick. And I told you, this was my thought. I think we have to almost those but elements in this defense, we see. I think they have to be in full force with this game. I think even early, I know you mentioned to me, we should look at some cover threes, I think.

52:25 Early, early cover, 1 cover zeros, press man, load the line essentially, if they beat our prayer. Well, bear little bear, like, do not let them get this running angle, if you want, if they take, if they take shots and they hit three big shots, and they beat us. So, be it, do not let their strength beat you. by trying to go off kilter The next thing we need to do is tackling must be.

53:06 What it was against UNC and not will be seen up and down since West Virginia. We got to tackle. Well we can't we definitely can't tackle like we did last week. We absolutely cannot tackle like we did against Notre Dame or West Virginia. And the last thing man we gotta we gotta Force turnovers because I think we're going to need some good field position to generate some points against this defense. So turnovers are going to have to be there. We you know we I don't know we haven't really got the status on on wall or yet whether he's going to be going. Not so very concerning their, although with their with their defense, you know, as long as they don't get to the outside especially against Dorian, since he still undersized there, that's okay. To me, like, if water is not here, this isn't the week that we were there going three, why?

54:08 They're not going to throw it all over the place on us, but I'm more thinking. I'm from from a ball Hawk standpoint. If they're going through the ball up, I want Germaine wall or out there to grab it. Yeah. Jack got you. You want for that? Well, I mean the other part of the defense is I think we've got to have a special teams touchdown in some way shape or form and I think the what you said that turnover, it's got to happen. It's got to have D happened, deep in their territory because I can't see this offense driving the ball more. Maybe twice on this defense. Maybe twice. so, I mean, Yeah, there's a lot of things that have to go our way.

54:51 This weekend against, this is against a 3 and 14. This is in against the one-loss, team, this isn't against 5 and 2 team is against a 3 and 14 and this is how we're talking. Yeah, we're playing tight against a team that at the beginning of the year, we thought was you know a book, it w and you know credit to them and you know discredit to sell them short and or or at least us Even more confidence, in what we thought this product was going to be and start of the year, what it is. So we'll take the L on that one lies. You told you told him, we told him we saw something that wasn't there and we got sold a bill of goods that weren't good. So let's sell the bill of goods for this week. Brian, let's get the predictions out here on. I'm not a bleep.

55:43 I'm gonna, I'm gonna lead. All right. All right, go for it. I think the Hokies are actually going to win this game. I think if you are sitting on your couch or in a bar, whatever you like to drink, Keep the bottle near you or the six-pack near you because you're going to need a lot of it to stomach this one. I think we win 2120. I do think we get at least one defensive or special teams touchdown and I think we get one additional defense sets up the offense for the win. Okay. What we want to want me and I think I do think ham will be ready for This rushing attack even though it's been kind of our weakness, at least is something we have prepped for this week.

56:34 It's something you prep for and you don't have the passing element to really, you know, scare you here. It's very much a you can focus on the rush, take away the rush and more than likely you're going to be okay on the back end. Yeah, I'm not as confident as you and the outcome though, we got a one point win. My confidence isn't like I've got a four-point loss. I've got a 2420 Syracuse Victory. It's totally on the distrust of the offense and not knowing not having confidence that they can score more than two touchdowns.

57:15 I think that's just where I'm at. At this point. Unfortunately, I think the defense does enough and gives the offense some chances there but they don't take advantage of enough of them. Like last week. Yeah, exactly. Like last week, hers, first two drives with the game stand. Nearly a block punt, 50-yard line, two yards. Yeah, and the defense kept that game as close as it could for the first half in the offense decided, we're not gonna do anything. Nothing, nothing yet and I don't think it's the players. I think the players are given full effort out there. I think it is the coaching. Staff, completely. And we've already had this conversation. I think if you put, I think if you put guys like Trey Turner Taylor Robinson, some of the running backs. I know, we haven't looked good.

58:07 But if you putting everybody in a bad position like I'm sure you're sitting here Braun and this is probably Bryan's. Brain James Mitchell goes out. You've been using Rahim. Blackshear is primarily a running back. All right. Screw James is gone. Change your offense put him somewhere where he can be dynamic. Nope, we're not going to let him be dynamic. We're going to let him be right here. And I feel for that kid because I think he was sold a bad bill of goods. Like, come here, we're going to use you and you're going to get all these touches and in Ality. Now you can again a fired Rutgers regime got more out of Raheem Blackshear than we have in to seize a well-seasoned and a half. Is he eligible next year? I think so.

58:51 All right. Maybe we get a new staff in here. We could. We could have discuss. All right, Ron, let's flip it. Let's talk about some other games will be watching on Saturday. First of all, let's go. Year-to-date. We already discussed it Sunday. You went five and five last week. I want seven and three. I'm at 40 and 32 you're at 35 and 37. Have you done any different, analytical scouting this week or got any? I'm making a comeback this week, man. This is my week to make some moves. I'm going at least 73 this week. All right. Least 73. So he's going to probably pick against me at least six times tonight.

59:34 Everybody go ahead and write that down. All right, let's heart Army and wait, Army and wake wake laying three points. In this game, run, this game is going to be one of the twelve Thirty early kicks for the ACC and we was the moment here, it is actually going to be at West Point. So up in new, Armies for and two going to be on CBS Sports Network. What do you think about this one? Brian. You've got the kind of new age offense versus the old school offense? Yeah, I think I like wait to cover this. I think weeks going to take care of business.

1:00:17 I just think that some of the things they do on that offense is going to cause some problems for Army. I think wakes defense is going to be good enough to kind of slow that attack. Down, that rushing attack down. But again, it's at home. Army. Probably lengthens that game or shortens that game. I should say to the point where wakes got to be pretty, pretty perfect, but I still like wake to close it up. Yeah, I am with you on that. I'm not. Not like doing this just to spite you. So, yeah, I'm with you. I also think with wake, it's their defense, they're not full of athletes. They're full of good sound disciplined football players, right? When you're going against Army, what do you need? Good sound disciplined football, players who know where the balls going?

1:01:08 A lot of people you know screen for years. Why did buds defense struggled, so much with Georgia Tech because it was athletes who attack you can't attack the triple option, you can attack the wing option, whatever you want to call it. So I think wake I think weight wins like that 10. I think whenever weight gets the ball they score and I think they'll get four to five possessions. Something like 3121 is what I'm feeling on this one. All right Brian, the next one. Here is U Mass versus fsu's at 12:00 kick. The over-under is 60, the last this you Lane 35 and a half.

1:01:52 I know UMass is one in five and I know UMass has lost some games. But they have only had two games. They've had three games of their six that were over 35 and a half. I can't trust FSU. I know they're playing better. I just think 35 and a half. We'll just way way too much to lay. I will take you bass in the points. Not so fast my friend. Give me FSU. This is my, this is where I make up some Gap here. This is where I close the gap. This is where FSU doesn't screw me for once.

1:02:34 Hopefully, so I'll take FSU and the points. I'll lay those points and I think, you know, we'll see what they do. They have been playing better. The next one is going to be the head scratcher, right? All the next one is just going to be. I'm Like I'm still, I'm literally might slip and flip a coin, then inside this one, the next one is the Clemson. And the pit game. This is going to be 3:30 kick that pit pit for the first time. I think they said in five years, the Louisville game going to Death Valley against Lamar.

1:03:15 Clinton is not favored. In an ACC game, hit laying three. What's Seiya. Braun. I can't believe I'm doing this. I'm taking Kenny fucking picket padding are doozy and the Pitt Panthers. Over Clemson. I just don't Clemson's, offense is not share it specifically. DJ has not shown me that he's playing with enough confidence in what he's doing offensively to put up enough points against Pitt. I think pit will be able to put up Somewhere in the mid to Upper 20s against that Clemson defense. Because what they do kind of plays into the, the small weaknesses that the Clemson defense does have. So I think they will be able to get a few touchdowns, maybe a field goal or two, and I think they pull it out. So I think they cover that three, I'm gonna go not so fast. My friend.

1:04:24 It spit, there's always gains where pit just craps the bed, right? When they shouldn't grab the bed. They've already done it once this year against Western Michigan and to me Clemson's got too much talent there too. Not eventually get out of this offensive rut, we know, DJ's a good quarterback. We saw that last year but the thing that I think everyone didn't think about was not so much him and I know he's struggling but I think there's some other element struggling. Their pit doesn't have the best defense, they held US 27, but if you saw in that game, there were numerous times where we had really good opportunities to potentially score and we Just crapped the bed, I'll take the three and I think Clemson pulls it. I think comes and pulls the upset and makes all things right in the world of ACC football.

1:05:28 It's a weird time to say, Clemson pulls the upset in any in ACC matchup little lazy. It's Truman very, very good. Alright, next game, BC Louisville Louisville. Three and three Boston College at four and two. Louisville is Lane six and a half points. Louisville's last game they lost by a point to UVA. Essentially, they missed a field goal, right? Yep. Yep. And Boston College coming off a pretty bad loss to n.c. state. So you know I sit on this one Brian and it's his home-field worth six and a half is Louisville that Good.

1:06:13 I've seen Louisville's offense score. Some I've seen their defense. Give up a lot, BC. Just had a play. Probably maybe the one of the better defenses. Not only in conference but probably, you know, in top 20 in the country. I'm going to take BC. Give me the six and a half. I'm going to take them to cover this game. Yeah, I'm going to take I'm going to take BC as well here. I think it's a bounce-back week for them. I think NC State is better than than we think. I think they're probably one of the three best teams in the ACC right now. So yeah I'll take be see here, hard to trust Louisville to close out a game and six and a half. It's probably just enough where I feel comfortable there abso-freakin'-lutely.

1:07:04 All right. Well, let's jump out of the CeCe, Braun, and let's head down to the Alabama. Tennessee, game, third Saturday, in October, it's always been like that. It's one of the great traditions in college football and trying to look up here. Have you seen any news on hinted hooker tonight as he cleared after getting kind of malt at the end of the other game? You know, I have, I have not seen Let me check real quick. Same here. Now, pretty never do not 14.

1:07:45 Optimistic Outlook. Optimistic Outlook. Day to day. So he could go. All right, either way, it's in Tuscaloosa, Alabama is laying 25 and a half points. I even think when tendon hooker obviously Tennessee's defense will give up points. The whole question is, this is how much they give up early. How quick does neglect the gas off? if it was a guaranteed on you Hinton was playing I would probably take Tennessee what the points with him, not playing, we saw We saw how Joe Milton looked especially the how many overthrown passes it like only the first half, it was it was for bad ones, it was for bad ones in.

1:08:46 Probably another one that you know, was questionable but he had one where the it was just a, it was a slaughter, a tight end, just streaking up the seam and just airmailed it by about 8 yards like clothes. So yeah, I'm taking bam, I will lay the 25 and A half points, whether it be a injured hooker, or Milton. I don't think they stay close. Yeah, I'm going to do the same thing. I think it is. I think that line is about, right, but I feel like it's going to be about a about a four score game, so give me Bama Whether it's a banged-up hooker or whether it's, you know, more or less you like that, whether it's a banged-up hooker or a Milton that likes to sail the ball. I think that's not going to bode well for them. All right, let's go down to the Big 12 where Barry interesting game top 10.

1:09:50 Oklahoma state who's number 8 at 6 and 0 coming off a big win over comeback. Win over Texas. Last week, goes up to Iowa, State up to Ames, be A330 kick our state forward and to Iowa State, pretty big number here is a seven-point favorite against okey state. What do you think on this one behind? Yeah, I'm taking Okie State all the way. I don't think there's a letdown game after the the win last week. I think they go out to handle their business. Kind of assert themselves as one of the teams to watch in that conference going forward. So I'll take Okie State here and I'm with you on this and it's not so much that, you know, I don't like Iowa State, it said, okey States playing a really good really good defense.

1:10:42 This isn't your normal Well, Mike Gundy team where they're running and gunning and went beating teams. You know, 45-42, you know, every game this year 16 points, against Missouri State 23 against Tulsa 20 against Boise, 20, against Kansas State, 14 against Baylor and 24, last week against Texas, you start doing that math? I mean, they're, they're basically given up right at 19, 20 points of game and you. I will stay Matt Campbell, if you ask me tomorrow, without take him here, probably his recruiting has never been that good.

1:11:22 I think he's a good football coach, but I'm with you bro. I've got to take a key State because I think defense travels I think that is going to be a heck of a game to watch. If you like 27, 24 games there on and I know some people don't like just like too much defense, but I think it's going to be a good old-fashioned. Yes. They're all right Brian the battle for the jeweled shillelagh USC, Notre Dame, Notre Dame is the favorite here laying seven points and this is the very very rare. Very, very rare. USC Notre Dame, 7:30 it and South Bend. Very rare.

1:12:13 Very rare, USC 3 and 3 essentially waiting for James Franklin to come take over the program. Last time they were out, they got their doors blown off by Utah and it's kind of been that way just about every other week for them. They got the doors blown off by Oregon State. They got the doors blown off by Stanford. And honestly I don't think Notre Dame has the horsepower to blow the doors off but I think Notre Dame has the horsepower to win by more than seven points. Give me the Irish with the freemen defense, shutting them down 28:17 Irish. Okay, okay, I'm actually right there with you. I think this is a Good matchup for Notre Dame and I think they go out there and handle their business on defense. I think it is a somewhat low scoring game, that gets into the kind of Twenty Eight, Twenty Eight, twenty 28:17, somewhere in that range.

1:13:21 Yeah, it'll probably be again, it'll probably be an entertaining game to watch and I don't actually, let me look at some of them might slave here. It actually might be maybe the most entertaining game in the nights. Wait to watch it. 7:30, Georgia Tech Virginia, NC State Miami, Ohio State Indiana, I don't know. Watch that change playing the Aggies, 21-point line on that. That's a pretty big line for their. Yeah. So Yeah, that might be. There is no Pac-12 after dark this week. There is a there is an early Sunday morning, whack action.

1:14:04 If you want to look at a why they're so you know, if you're really a degenerate and want to stay up till 3:00 3:30 a.m. eastern standard time Hawaii, Mexico, Hawaii's up being 18. There is one more West Coast game Ron. We got to jump on here tonight and that is going to be where game day is. Yep, feeling like the game day of old going to an important, even though it's not the top matchup of the weekend, a important matchup for the Pac-12 with organ and UCLA 3:30. So a 12:30 West Coast kick down in the Rose. Bowl number 10.

1:14:48 Oregon is essentially a two-point dog here. What do you think on this game, buddy? Yeah, I'm going Oregon here. I think what UCLA doing is done is impressive, but I think Oregon just has a little bit more in the tank. They're going to be able to finish them off late and I think they pull a pretty narrow win out, maybe touchdown or less but definitely covers that too. Yeah, I'm with you I think we're just too good. A team did not take points. You know sometimes it's just like a principal player. I like UCLA's, a good story, gift their home team in their favorite, but it's two points are literally saying the Rose Bowl in Oregon traveling.

1:15:35 From Eugene to La, is the difference in this game. It's not the difference. In this game. Organ is the more talented team. So, I'm definitely with you on that. All right. Brian. Anything breaking the left little while here. Nothing. I see man. Nothing I see. How do we met? Do we miss to pick homes? No, that's to do. We do Miami and NC State man. I forgot to put that one on here tonight. I think I already know what I tell you. I race that I did. I miss to pick up with Jesus Christ. The show is not over yet.

1:16:20 Miami NC State Bar on NC State, laying three points. Let me just say this. Yeah, legal limit. NC State is going to not only cover, the three points. NC State is going to win my 17. Yeah, I'm with you. That's a legal limit. B NC State, whatever you got in your, in your wallet, go for it. Exactly. I think I think you're not going to quite see as much offensive output is Miami had last week. I think that was more of a of a one-off than it was an interesting parallel. The only person that can sing on North Carolina's, the Virginia Tech Hokies. Yep, and we still won the game, but damn it was, it was a tough one.

1:17:06 It was a tough one. That should have been like 34 to 10 where our defense played that night and that game is the 730 kick down at Hard, Rock stadium with the wonderful 8,000 fans. It'll show up there we go. All right. Now, Virginia Georgia. Tech up at UVA. It's the 30th Anniversary, 31st anniversary of the when UVA was number one game. The year coach Bobby Ross took his Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets to the National Being shipped for anyone living in Richmond if you've never met Bobby, Ross and talk to that man. Just a treasure.

1:17:47 Great, absolute treasury, dude. Yeah, we got to got to hang out with him one night. He did a talk down at Kappa l in the city, it was him and Michael Robinson was Wes McElroy hosta thing. It was it was it was a good good time down there, Bobby shared some good stories. Got to Talk to him afterwards for a little while. Good, all around. It's a one-on-one with Bobby that night, man. Yeah, I know you ran into him a couple at once at a gas station, right? When entering the first time at a gas station and I saw him about a month ago, I cannot remember where I was, but I saw him and said, hey, coach, Ross, how you doing?

1:18:28 And he, if you say, hey to him, he will say, hey to you back. So, he's out here in the West End of Richmond. If you ever see him, if you recognize Who he is, say, who say hello, he will say hello back to you a living treasure here, but his Georgia Tech, Yellow Jackets that teams way to bastok. As much as I hate pains me to say this, I think UVA is going to win this game by about 14. I think, again, I think it feels like every game on the ACC sleep this week, it's going to be very entertaining games. Yeah. Maybe with the exception of ss.

1:19:08 You unless you take the 35 and a half and just sitting there like, I'm going to be doing like, okay, okay, yeah, we got it covered. So I'm taking UVA there. We think I'm taking Georgia Tech. Oh God. And I'm hoping they don't screw me again but I'm taking Georgia Tech. I think they keep it close. I think it's very similar to that UVA Louisville game. I think it's going to come down to something at the end of the game. That's going to kind of decide if they're, I don't think it's going to quite be more than the seven that were laying here. So, Let me get, let me get Georgia Tech there for that one.

1:19:50 George close it out with that one. Yeah. How are they going to win it? I'll shit. Why not? Oh, Yellow. Jackets outright win. Fuck UVA. All right, well if nothing hasn't broken, then Curtis who overlooked on. I run down sheet here to games completely, because I'm watching the App State game and Coastal that Coastal with the ball. Who's At the ball here. Somebody's inching closer and closer to a field goal line. I think it's appstate 2727. Yeah, two minutes left. Oh my God, they've got. Did you know the FSU? You see that you want to get that game up the fs? Yeah you know defensive coordinator for Coastal Carolina.

1:20:38 Hey I kid you not. All right well if we got nothing else that is going to wrap up this episode of The Boundary Corner podcast. I am Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian Sigler, visit our website. Boundary corner be t.com to listen to all of our episodes while you are there. Don't forget to follow us on Twitter. Facebook, Instagram, subscribe to our account on YouTube. And your favorite podcast Source, including Spotify, Amazon and apple podcast as always, we'd let our buddy. Jason Long play us in. Play us out, catch him on Spotify and apple music. We thank you for listening and let's go Hokies