Your boys Brian and Curtis give listeners a little something to chew on before they head on vacation. In this episode they run through the recent flurry of verbal commitments to the Hokies, discuss some of the bigger fish that are committing soon, and also provide a collection of clips from previous guests that highlight the key obstacles the Hokies had to navigate this off-season.
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.
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I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler, buddy.
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Wednesday afternoon Wednesday
afternoon, but for special
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reasons me and you are getting
ready to head on vacation in a
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few Deuces.
Deuces.
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So finding out you're heading to
South Boston for a little bit.
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I'm heading.
I'm heading to the mountains of
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North Carolina Lake Lure.
So some well-deserved time off
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for your boys here, kick back,
relax have a few drinks, see
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some family.
You know, you know, but we were
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sitting here and it's like, what
we got.
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We need to hit one before we go
ahead.
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At least one episode it, right?
Yeah.
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Got it.
Got to give you guys a little
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taste to taste the something
before we head away.
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Otherwise it'll be a month
without an episode.
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That's just not like us.
That ain't like us at all.
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Not at all.
You don't know us.
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We try to pull one every alley
every couple weeks during the
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offseason to keep you updated.
And what you're looking
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primarily on the back, half of
the at the episode today, Is
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back in the late winter, early
spring, we had three very
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special guests on, then why
can't some 24/7 hokey Legend of
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white Vic and marketing
connoisseur?
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And I'm calling her a
connoisseur because that's what
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she is Christine and Garnett and
when Brown went back and
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listened to those.
And there were some really great
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things coming out especially
what's happened in the
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transpired months.
So in just a few minutes, we're
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going to pull out a few clips
for you guys to listen to, and
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kind of About this was five
months ago and three months ago
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and sort of what's changed with
the Hokies.
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But before we jump into that,
the Hokey recruiting run has
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been on a tear the last five
weeks.
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We getting some guys in the
boat.
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We getting some guys in the boat
real quick, but the boat went
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from mostly empty, too darn near
full, in a matter of five weeks.
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Heck yeah.
Like 10 guys in five weeks.
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Absolutely rolling.
You know, I think we are now
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officially up to 17 commits,
which is wild and we're not
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going to hit them all.
No disrespect, you know two
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guys, you know, like Bryce dukes
and Jackson like you Johnny
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Garnett mat Hoffman.
All those guys are good.
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Players Daquan right in their
own right?
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But if we did that we wouldn't
be able to do the other episode
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and trust us and Tucker Holloway
missed him as well.
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The speech.
From down in North Carolina.
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But we wanted to hit kind of
Five Guys real quick that to us
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have.
Made the biggest splash and
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we're going to start with the
highest rated current recruit
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Xavier Simmons.
Getting the 336 connection back
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going.
The 6-3, 235 athlete.
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The four-star.
Top 200 player.
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Brian.
What do you think of this guy?
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So I'll say two things here.
The big thing is, you know, he's
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the first real four star that
has been for Star when he
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committed to us in a while.
That's that's big.
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We'll talk about that second
thing where he's coming from.
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So we're talking 336, Greensboro
North Carolina.
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This is also the footprint of
the Apparently recruiting
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Aficionado Mack Brown and yet,
here we are.
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Are going down there, grabbing a
guy from Carolina, you know,
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pulling the fence back down a
little bit here.
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So I like to see that this kid
is already the size, you like to
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see in a linebacker 63 to 35.
Good athlete.
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Good tackler.
I like this a lot.
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Not just the fact that it's
Highly rated guy a highly rated
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guy in a recent Rivals backyard,
but also the fact that he can
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play some damn good football.
Absolutely, he is a top 10
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player in the state of North
Carolina.
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So that's really big, the other
pieces.
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You know, you look at, very good
commitment list and I think
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having the RT the size ready to
potentially play regardless,
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what happens is upcoming season?
You know, this is a guy you want
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on your team.
Alright.
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Now the next Guy, Brian, I don't
think anybody knew Anybody knew
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this guy before a few weeks ago
and I'll be the first to admit I
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was, I was a little bit upset
and when they pulled the offer
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and I see this kid commit and
then you looked at its tape and
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it's like that's different.
This kid isn't some unranked
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unknown guy, he just didn't get
a Junior Day.
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Malcolm Jones at a Leesburg
Georgia, the safety, six 1285.
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When Brian looked at his tape, I
think you said 86, which we were
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like.
Yeah, I was like oh wow, that's
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pretty good 2471, a step
further.
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Put them in an 88.
So, haha three-star, what are we
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getting from this guy?
Brian?
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Because it seems like he was on
board quick.
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Yeah.
I mean I think this is and we're
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to play a clip a little bit that
Evans going to talk about this.
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What's going on a lot in this
cycle is that a lot of these
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guys are under recruited because
of the everything going on with
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covid-19 getting Junior camps.
Not getting Junior tape or
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getting Junior tape late or not
playing as many games as they're
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used to.
There's a whole lot of factors
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at play here, so there's going
to be a handful of.
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I mean, we can Call them
Diamonds in the Rough.
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But that this is more of a,
because of the circumstances,
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just flat-out under recruited in
the timeframe, where most of
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these guys start getting on
programs radar, but when we bet,
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you know, you talked about being
a little upset, when we backed
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off of Sherrod, Koval once
Clemson jumped in there.
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And then you know this guy got
in the boat shortly thereafter
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that I think that is what you
saw.
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All right so we got we backed
off.
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Guy that we could still
potentially have at least made a
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run up until he committed and
maybe even after for a guy
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that's unranked.
And then all of a sudden you see
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his ranking pop up there, you're
like oh okay maybe just not
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enough Publications have given
this guy fair look, you know
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before now they finally have
since he got a an offer from
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Tech and then got when I had
committed.
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So I like him.
I mean, I think he's going to
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be, he may not be an immediate
contributor, but If Lee was a
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good pivot, if we decided we
weren't going to pursue Sherrod,
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Koval any further.
Absolutely, still hate them,
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pivoting off Koval because I
think having an estate guy like
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that.
It's giving you attention.
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They should not have pivot it
off of them.
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I think it was a bad move but
obviously months later he
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committed to Clemson.
He also called it his dream
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offer.
Let's go to the third down in
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the 75.
Kyrie moist, and 65 220 in out
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of Suffolk.
It goes back to the theme that
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started just, you know, 18
months ago.
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We're getting bigger on the
line.
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What have you seen from this
guy?
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Obviously, three star need three
recruit but Somebody Evan
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mentioned way back in February,
that commits, you know, 50 check
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it check, his offer list, he's
not light on the offer list.
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I know a lot of those offers are
coming from schools out west.
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But you know, when you get a guy
that's being recruited by
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Arizona State, you kind of take
a little bit of interest and
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say, okay, well, they see
something in him here.
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Let's give this a look and
really good frame.
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Definitely goes a long with With
what bill has been recruiting,
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since he's became the defensive
line coach at Virginia Tech 64,
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220.
So longer type player be he was
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recruited by JC and Bill, their
started definitely put their
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footprint on the type of players
that we're recruiting for the
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defensive line and showing more
height, more size in general,
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but definitely more length and I
like this, this kid, he plays he
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plays long and he plays with
good luck.
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Courage.
That's also be talking about his
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offer list.
You're talking about, you to
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mentioned Arizona State.
Also to that caught, my eye of
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through, MC3 that caught my eye.
Washington, always good
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defensively.
Indiana and Michigan stay with
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Mel Tucker.
So, maybe maybe it's one of
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those things where it's, it was
either I'm staying home, or I'm
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going Way Out West and he chose
to stay home, which is a good
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thing now, Brian, the next one
to me, As much as I love the
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Xavier and Xavier is our Crown
Jewel.
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This guy's a real crown, jewel
prashad, Pernell at a Highland
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Springs defensive lineman
six-foot-four 260 pounds.
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Another guy that was mentioned
and something that's been
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mentioned, since we started,
this thing is opening up the
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gates to the 804 and opening up
the gates to Highland Springs
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and the biggie for me and you we
set it.
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What happened with Jabari Parker
who had three or four places he
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could go play.
And taking a preferred walk-on
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was sort of the kind of a
busting of the door.
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This is big Yeah, this is big
getting back in the, the good
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graces of Highland Springs which
is probably right there with
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like the Oscar Smith.
So being the best program in the
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state, being able to get Richard
Purnell to commit.
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That that's going to be big, not
only paying dividends from him
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as a player, but down the road
as well, for getting some of
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these other talented guys that
come from that program back to
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Virginia Tech.
Especially with guys like
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obviously Lauren Johnson being
the coach there that that's
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going to pay dividends for us
down the road.
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But let's just talk about
Purnell himself, which I think
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the reason that some of the
other the bigger programs didn't
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push harder, he's kind of a
tweener think of him, kind of in
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the morel Pollard type build.
Their he's going to probably
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play a three technique for us.
He's taller though, so he's 64
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250 by the time he's Getting
significant snaps, he's probably
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going to be in that to 65 to 70
range.
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So I mean I like him as a three
technique.
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Probably has the athleticism,
the slot outside if need be but
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I like him as a three technique
and like I said very much in the
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in the mole of a Norrell
Pollard.
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Also yeah, just getting back
here with the 84 getting back
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with Island getting back with
Lauren, it says a lot.
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It says that whatever has
changed the philosophy.
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Of the recruiting staff.
It's it's to us going in the
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right direction and and you see
Rashad Rashad doesn't seem like
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he is a quiet kid.
He seems very charismatic and he
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seemed like one of these guys
that will lead the way and be
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talking to other guys saying you
need to come in.
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Probably the favorite thing I
heard from him was and you
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probably read the quote crime
when Virginia Tech was good.
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Players went there, something
did white dick mentioned and you
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hear kid like that, it's you,
that's the mentality we want
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now, Brian the next guy.
Holy moly out of nowhere.
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We had to see if it was true or
not.
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So you see something pop up and
you're looking all around like
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is this real?
Is this guy really got an offer
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Xavier chaplain from down in
Beaufort South Carolina, six
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reported six foot, six 370, also
reports 65 340.
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Either way, he is a big
offensive.
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Lineman you looked at his take
just this morning.
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Brian, what are we getting out
of the currently unranked Xavier
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ER, We're getting a guy that is
big and can move for his
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reported height and weight.
He has good bend does a good job
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of getting off the line didn't
have a whole lot of snaps doing
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past Pro saw one and it was more
of like a sprint out.
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Type play wasn't wasn't like a
traditional spa for seven step
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drop.
So not sure how hold up in pass.
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Pro could potentially be a guard
or at?
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Cool.
You know, there's a lot of
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potential there for someone that
big that's also that athletic
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his athleticism.
Definitely popped off of the
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tape more so than probably
anything else.
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Being able to see a guy that big
with that much Bend in that much
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quickness at the snap, which is
scary.
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Now, there are the reports that
Clemson and Georgia and a few
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other big schools are
potentially.
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Look at offering him to come
camp with them, but Italy.
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And this is what you know,
people are saying happened.
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He literally got the offer
committed and went back to work
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on the farm.
I don't know if Glitz and
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glamour will be the selling
point to him.
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So yeah, I mean he might like
the idea of playing for storied
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franchises or whatever, but I
don't necessarily know if that,
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you know, that shiny object on
campus is going to be what's
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going to lure him.
Absolutely.
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So hey Xavier for listen to
this.
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Virginia Tech has a great
agriculture program, contact us.
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We'll put you in touch with a
guy named Wilkerson and he'll
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hook you up and tell you all
about it.
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All right?
Brian this the next nine days to
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me we talked about it before.
This is make or break.
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Yep, for the class Friday Ramon
Brown out of Manchester for
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star.
Top 200 guy, top 15 running back
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in the country, is going to
announces recruitment.
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Brian who you feel?
And we fighting him for, as we
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get down the stretch here.
So there was just a four star
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running back, committed to Penn
State's.
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I'm pretty sure they're kind of
out of the mix.
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It looks like the the last two
to give us a run is Maryland in
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potentially South Carolina.
I know that's going to that's
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going to hurt the ears of some
Hokies out.
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There with with Shane Beamer
being the head coach down there
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but all things seem to be
pointing to him being a hokie on
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Friday.
So we shall see how that turns
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out but I like where we're
sitting with Ramon Brown Razor,
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Ramon Raisa.
Say hello to the bad guy.
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Let's go back when we were kids.
All right.
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The other one and this would be
you always talk about this would
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probably be the Crown Jewel.
He's a top 120 player, he's a
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local guy.
He's got offers from all over
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the place Gunner.
Givens is set to commit on the
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16th, I will be back from
vacation, you will be still on
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vacation and Seems like us and
Penn State, right?
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It seems like it's a two-man
fight.
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This is two men fight and I kind
of like the home guys.
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I'm not gonna lie.
I like we're where we sit with
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Gunnar Givens.
I think we can get him in and
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I'm not even sure if he's going
to end up being an offensive
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lineman forest or a defensive
lineman for us.
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But regardless skill-wise
athleticism size, kind of brings
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all of that to the table, all
the things you want.
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From a guy that's going to play
line for.
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You played a lot of different
spots for his high school.
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He's kind of blocked some, he's
been tight in.
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I mean he plays defensive line
so there's a lot going on with
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that but just in terms of, you
know, by the top being hokey
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land, no doubt, getting getting
gunner in would be huge.
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It would definitely help
backfill on the offensive.
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Line some of the, the holes we
have looking forward your to
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next year or the year after
that.
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So I really like that get.
And it never hurts to get a high
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rated for Star guy in your boat.
Definitely helps the the
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perception which I think is half
of our recruiting problems.
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In general is just perception,
kind of shaping how the reality
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goes forward.
Absolutely.
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And the last two recruiting
classes did not help at all with
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that sort of perception and in a
lot of the stuff that we're
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going to be playing for you guys
in the next little bit here.
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It talks about perception and
things like that.
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So you know, definitely, you
know, stay listening got again,
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stuff from Evan.
The one Vic and Christina
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Garnett.
We're calling this our summer
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Supercut and we're going to lead
off here with with Evan.
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He's going to talk a little bit
about the what we just kind of
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finished up their some of the
guys that were looking at in the
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22 class and how we sit and who
we need to get into the boat for
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this to be a successful class.
Well, you know, I think, I
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think, Virginia Tech needs to
focus completely in the state of
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Virginia.
First, there's a lot of talent
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in the state of Virginia right
now.
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You know, you can look at guys
like obviously, there's Gunner
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Givens at a lord, Baba taught,
one of the top tackles in the
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country, Virginia.
Tech is definitely in the mix
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for him.
You know, you got guys, like
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George Pettaway Ramon Brown in
the state of Virginia.
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I think those guys are both at
least speaking with Virginia
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Tech and have some Of interest
in them, you know, you look at
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guys like Isaiah Montgomery out
of adult Landstown.
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He's a guy that's a moderately
ranked guy, but I think he's a
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big-time offensive tackle but,
you know, really looking at his
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his possible projection at the
next level.
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I think he's got a lot of
talent.
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You know, Bryson Jennings dad
played at Virginia Tech played
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with JC price.
I think you don't want to
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overlook that connection, he's a
four-star guy, out of Clover
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Hill, you know, Richard Purnell,
and Were one of the guys from
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Highland Springs, Kyrie moist
in.
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You can get him out of King's
Fork.
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I think Virginia Tech can
actually do really well in the
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state of Virginia next year.
I think Virginia Tech really
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should take you.
No take the 20 21 Foundation
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that they set in the state of
Virginia.
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Try to build upon that and
really try to take advantage.
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I've been up here in talent in
2021 and try to rebuild that
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roster with Virginia guys.
Virginia Tech has always been at
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their best when the Is littered
with those guys that are
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homegrown, so I think they
should continue to try and mind
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this in-state Talent.
Alright, next guys, the white
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Vic here's going to be talking
about Virginia kreutz between
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now and then, you know, as of
today we have five Virginia
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recruits of the 17 and looking
at Ramon Brown and Gunner,
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Givens, potentially coming, we
could have seven and probably a
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few more guys that are being
chased as well.
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But let's see what the white
thinks about.
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What's changed between the guys
back in his day, 20 years ago.
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And now They know more, they're
more knowledgeable and social
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media has helped with them
knowing more about other
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schools.
I got my letter from Notre Dame
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one time and I was a big Irish
fan and I Had a nortre Dame
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jacket because they know I was,
I love Tony Rice, and the
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rocket, and Bettis and Bets, and
all those different guys.
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They had taught fight, you know,
you just like and Notre Dame,
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you know, and I'm living in
Hampton Virginia and I mean, I
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wore that jacket, you know, I'm
walking around Hampton and
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Newport News looking like
size-wise With a warning.
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And I remember my dad said, you
like them, don't you?
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He was like, you know what they
located?
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I was like, nah, man.
But I'm going, you know, and he
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was like, nah, I'm in 10th or
11th grade.
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And he pulls out.
For those listening, they're
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going to laugh at our old
school, the old G's listener,
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and encyclopedia, and he blows
the dust off, and he opens it
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up, and it's like, this is a
map.
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You live here in Virginia Notre.
Dame is in Indiana and You know,
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you start back.
They do it now you get those
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media guys and the media got,
you know, you saw how they had a
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lot of Dwight VIXX, you know, a
lot of Dwight Vicks, you know,
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on their roster and long story
short, man, these guys now are
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just more knowledgeable.
They are more aware and I don't
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think especially with the dip in
wins with Virginia Tech, you
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know, eight wins.
In 75 and six it's two folds in
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the 90s we were we were not we
were the best kept secret.
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The Tidewater area was producing
tons of talent and now you see
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the benefits between all the
great players and the great
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colleges now that come down
there, you know, Virginia guys
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have been leaving on the State
Fair.
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Ever, you know, Ron Springs went
to Ohio State know, maybe no, I
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forgot where Ron Springs is.
But he's Shawn Springs.
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Dad, but he went out of state.
He went to Lafayette High
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School, Lawrence Taylor who went
to Lafayette High School from
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the Tidewater area.
Went to UNC obviously and had
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Dre blah who went to UNC and you
had drama Curry who was the only
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player to win national Gatorade
Player of the Year and all in
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football and basketball and he
The McDonald's All-American in
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basketball.
He won three state championships
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at Hampton High one, national
championship in football and one
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state championship in
basketball.
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So this notion that, oh my God,
your Junior players always
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leaving that.
Know, they've been leaving.
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The difference is the Virginia
that we know, compared to what
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we grew up in?
There's no longer the best kept
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secret, Ohio state, Alabama,
Clemson, the bigwigs.
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They stay down there.
Now, Penn State.
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They live down there.
Every now, and they were I pluck
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a player from my area now and
it's not just Tidewater it's
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Loudoun County.
You see a lot of those guys, go
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to Stanford.
The West Coast, Northern
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Virginia.
Kids are going out of state.
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And the other thing is, there's
some other layers to it.
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The state of Virginia has
improved dramatically.
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You look with LJ's doing Lauren
Johnson and Holly Springs
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Veronica.
The Richmond area was always
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known for basketball but now
that's not the case anymore.
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There's some suburbs of
Richmond.
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The Chester Chester feels the
surrounding areas have
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Dramatically Northern Virginia,
Westfield one.
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The state's three years in a
row, used to be the tarwater
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Richmond, show, and football and
basketball.
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That is changed as well.
All that combines with,
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unfortunately, Virginia Tech and
UVA picked their worst times to
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fall off.
Yep, they did its best to you.
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Yeah.
I mean, it UVA has been
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rebuilding for years and for
years, Tecna fit, you know, Tech
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benefited for years because
they're, you know, you look at
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that.
Five team, I believe their
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entire defense starters, that
were ranked number one in the
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nation or maybe that was 07-08.
But pretty much most of their
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stars were from the Commonwealth
and 2005 and 06 07. 08 Virginia
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Tech was signing and getting
commitments from the some of the
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best players in this state.
And then when you have Allen
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Iverson's the place, the code
versus the Ronald kiriza Tyrod,
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Taylor's and all these guys.
Mike Vick they started to
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emerge.
Cruz and become household names.
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All of a sudden, it's a perfect
storm and what makes things bad.
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If you're Virginia Tech fan is,
you know, as the transition took
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place from bheema to Fuente
people pick on Fuente that you
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know the cynics and critics but
at the end of the day the last
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three or four years of being his
tenure weren't the best.
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You had a lot of six in six
seasons.
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You had that 18 and 5 season
where they got blasted in the
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Sun Bowl against UCLA.
Yep.
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And It's just not a good look.
It's the worst time.
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Consider this during that time
frame before.
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If Wednesday took over, you had
a lot of guys that would have
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kept Tech afloat in that
National brand.
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Peace.
If they had shows Tech but Tech
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kept finishing second.
You had the Devon Forbes and
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Ricky Slade unions.
But you also had this on hand,
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Derek, naughty daily homes, and
all those guys pick Other school
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and Tech was always second.
Even your boy and went to
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Florida State the tall defensive
end.
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I think His Name Escapes me,
that went to Florida State.
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Yeah, yeah.
Do your worst.
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Mistake of his life was going on
there.
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Oh, I'm sure I'm sure because
they told me he was going to win
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number two and I'm like yo and
your body wearing Dion's number
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what they saying.
But detective rain coming home,
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you know, we're number two.
No sir, you know I'm saying?
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So like I did, you know, but I
give Florida State and Ohio,
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State and Alabama and all the
schools Credit, you know, Dasani
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and I was with him, people don't
realize this, his first
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unofficial visit or visit to any
University.
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He followed my wife and I on
down with his high school coach
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at Virginia Tech.
I introduced I introduced him.
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To Kam Chancellor and Tyrod
Taylor.
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I interviewed him on cowbell,
he's radio show at the spring
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game.
The same day, Chuck Clark
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committed, Tim settle was that
my football camp?
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You know, I used to do football
camps.
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So I was doing a lot of high
school subject in homes as
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picture and internet with me him
and Mike he was at my Symposium.
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I did all those guys I mentioned
were at my football camps.
446
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,500
The only one we got was Tim
settle and look what Tim said.
447
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,900
I was doing for the Virginia
Tech brand and also look what
448
00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:01,800
he's doing.
For the Washington football
449
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,800
team.
Alright, so now that Dwight Vic
450
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,300
is covered kind of the
perception of recruits of the
451
00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:11,500
program.
We're going to let Evan Watkins
452
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:15,200
go into a little bit more about
some of the support staff.
453
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,100
Build out that Virginia Tech is
looking to do and some of the
454
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:21,000
new recruiting promotions that
have happened within the
455
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,600
on-field coaching staff.
That's why we have seen support
456
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,300
staffs grow year in and year out
to Growing exponentially every
457
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:34,500
school, you know, even your
school's like Dominion have the
458
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:37,900
moving your FCS schools.
James, Madison is building out
459
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:40,800
recruiting departments.
Everyone needs recruiting
460
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,800
departments.
Virginia Tech has a recruiting
461
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,500
department now, they need to
Beef It Up.
462
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:46,400
They need to pour some money
into it.
463
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,900
Take a lot of this pressure off
of the ten assistance, and
464
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:54,900
Justin Fuente and you know, hit
the ground, you know, hit the
465
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:59,600
pavement hard, hit the pavement
fast and see, you know, kind of
466
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,400
see what shakes out when you
cast that really wide net then
467
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,200
you filter it out.
To your core board of recruits
468
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,900
you want and let the coaches go
out and try to Feast.
469
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:12,600
Yeah, I'm glad you brought up
tap because I mean that that's
470
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,000
what we had talked about the
same thing and really kind of
471
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,600
reiterated, what you said is
that, you know, it's a guy going
472
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,400
to a similar type role with an
NFL organization wants to win a
473
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,500
title and he doesn't have to
recruit can mean that that's a,
474
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:28,400
that's a big part of what he's
been doing day-to-day in the
475
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,800
last, you know, year plus that
now he's not even, it's not even
476
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,500
on his plane.
Or so, and let me go ahead and
477
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:38,400
piggyback off that.
So, you know, with, with Darryl
478
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,800
Tapp leaving, we got JC price.
Now, coming in and on top of
479
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,400
replacing as the code defensive
line coach.
480
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,500
He's also taking on the the
defensive recruiting coordinator
481
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:56,500
position with Adam Lichtenberg
taking over that as a, on the
482
00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:58,600
offensive side, getting a
promotion there.
483
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:01,700
What do you think are some
advantages on the recruiting
484
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:06,500
trail with this type of roll for
these two coaches relative to
485
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:08,900
what the Hokies are, trying to
do with building that recruiting
486
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:13,300
department up as well.
So typically, you know, pre
487
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:16,800
covid you would have your
recruiting coordinators, you're
488
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,500
on the field.
Coaches with one or two would be
489
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:23,300
designated as a recruiting
coordinator, and that helps them
490
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:26,500
on the road.
You know, it doesn't necessarily
491
00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:28,800
help them when they're back in
the offices, in the War Room,
492
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200
building up the board and, and
doing all of that, that helps
493
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,600
them on the road.
You know, coordinating a lot of
494
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,100
the stuff.
But, you know, when you talk
495
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,900
about like a recruiting
director, recruiting coordinator
496
00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:44,200
essentially, right now, under
covid rules, they're kind of the
497
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,500
same thing because support staff
is allowed to contact recruits,
498
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,700
you know, over the phone on
social media, things like that,
499
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:54,600
and coaches aren't allowed to go
out on the road.
500
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,200
So there's not really that big
of a difference.
501
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,600
And to me, not really nothing.
Really is going to change, you
502
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,900
know, Adam, Tannenberg behind
the scenes has been a phenomenal
503
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:09,700
higher.
In my opinion when it comes to
504
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:14,000
recruiting he's a guy that's got
a lot of contacts and he's a guy
505
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,300
that is a tireless worker.
I mean, he's whenever I talk to,
506
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:22,200
you know, some contacts of mine
or I talk to High School coaches
507
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,400
or even talk to, you know, some
of the contacts I have it jute,
508
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,500
the Juco level.
They all talk about how
509
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:32,200
Lichtenberg is a guy, he may not
win every recruit, but he is not
510
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,800
going to be outworked.
So and I want to, I want to make
511
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,900
sure that people understand that
that's not me saying he's gonna
512
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:41,500
go out and land every person on
his board.
513
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:45,300
Yeah, that's me saying he is
going to work as hard as humanly
514
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:48,300
possible to give her Gina Tech.
The best chance to land that
515
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:50,500
person.
Now, there might be somebody out
516
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:52,500
there that can offer more.
There might be schools, I can
517
00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:57,200
offer National Championship, you
know, possibilities road to the
518
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,200
NFL things like that, that
Virginia Tech doesn't, you know,
519
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,000
may not be able to offer it that
position but He's a tireless
520
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,400
tireless worker.
So we do when you're back in
521
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:11,900
Blacksburg and they're back in
the war room and they're going
522
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:14,800
over the board, nothing really
changes for Adam.
523
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,100
Lichtenberg this is the role he
already had.
524
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,100
He was already doing it, he just
didn't have the title of it.
525
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,700
The title was kind of a pat on
the back.
526
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:26,800
Thanks for all the recruiting
help that you do.
527
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,300
Thanks for everything that
you've done for just under
528
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:32,500
Justin Fuente Resume Builder.
Here's your title.
529
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:37,600
Price, kind of the same thing,
you know, I've met JC price a
530
00:32:37,608 --> 00:32:42,200
few times when he would come to
Virginia Tech for for summer
531
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,200
camps.
When Martin, you know, when they
532
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,300
were always invite Marshall to
come in and evaluate some kids
533
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:48,700
as well?
He was always there.
534
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,600
Really, really, an energetic
guy.
535
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:57,900
My big question when they were
replacing tap was I think JC
536
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:01,700
price of great fit.
I think he's 100% the the right
537
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:05,600
guy to step into that role.
Ah, but what he want to split
538
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,400
duties, I thought that that was
going to be a hang up, you know,
539
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,400
not, everyone wants to share
duties.
540
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,400
When you get that job, you know,
at the school you went to and
541
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,500
you want to kind of be the guy,
you know, you want to be the
542
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:21,900
guy.
You don't worry want to to split
543
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:26,100
that role amongst somebody else.
So I think this was a great way
544
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,700
for Virginia Tech to entice him
and say, Hey, you might be the
545
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:32,500
assistant d-line coach, but we
want you to oversee all of our
546
00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:34,800
defensive record.
Reading, you know, and
547
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:39,800
unofficially what I had heard
was this was kind of what Justin
548
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,900
Hamilton was doing.
You know I don't even have the
549
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:47,500
title of it but Justin Hamilton
had a major say in all of the
550
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:50,500
defensive recruiting make sense
of the D coordinator should sign
551
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:52,800
off.
What this does is take a little
552
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,800
bit off of his plate and allow
him to spend a little bit more
553
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,400
time on focusing on being the
defensive coordinator.
554
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:06,600
So you know, when it comes to
You know, you know, breaking it
555
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,400
down to like the brass tacks of
it.
556
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,500
Is there going to be a major
return on investment by
557
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:14,400
labeling?
These two guys recruiting
558
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,600
coordinators offensive and
defensive, not that we will see
559
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:23,900
immediately what I do think it
does is furthers that Foundation
560
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,300
that I talked about earlier
that, you know, I think, let's
561
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:30,000
say that the recruiting
department does start to split a
562
00:34:30,007 --> 00:34:33,199
little bit into Juco High
School.
563
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,900
When and transfer portal, and
all of that.
564
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:41,400
Now, you can take that
information and you can filter
565
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,100
that into to record recruiting
coordinators.
566
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:46,699
Who can then look at it.
Yes.
567
00:34:46,699 --> 00:34:49,400
No.
And then, you know, kind of send
568
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,100
out the hounds to do the
recruiting and oversee it.
569
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,100
And then when you think, you
know, you go in that war room
570
00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:01,600
and you say, hey, we need, you
know, X number of wide receivers
571
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,700
X numbers are running backs.
Things like That you now we'll
572
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:08,600
have a little bit more buy-in
with the ten assistance.
573
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,600
Now, obviously the recruiting
stop will heavily be involved
574
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,100
there as well.
No, but I think we're just
575
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,900
looking at the foundation.
And I've mentioned this before.
576
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:22,500
I tell people all the time,
don't get bogged down with
577
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:28,100
titles in college football,
because most of the time they're
578
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:32,100
meaningless, and I don't want
that to like, to not to belittle
579
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:34,500
in either coaches, or taking
anything away from sure.
580
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:38,100
But associate head coach
assistant head coach.
581
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,100
I mean, you have a head coach.
If he goes down, you have your
582
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:44,000
number two.
Okay, you don't need, we don't
583
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,800
need three guys with this name.
We don't need all of these.
584
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:52,400
different, you know, ins and
outs, and nuances of these names
585
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,300
that may or may not coordinate
with what you actually do as
586
00:35:56,300 --> 00:36:00,200
your job, which can then only
make it murky or when you go to
587
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,600
hire somebody, you know, you go
out to hire a director of
588
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,600
recruiting, you know, to replace
John yet.
589
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,700
See will.
But will you look at the, the
590
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:15,200
actual job duties of maybe?
What might Mark diet horn?
591
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,600
Does that might be more in line
with the director of recruiting,
592
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,400
where, then you might be looking
at a director of player
593
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,400
Personnel the higher but then
you have to do another title
594
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,000
switch, it just gets kind of
convoluted and it gets kind of
595
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:31,300
confusing.
So I never tried to get bogged
596
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:34,300
down into the titles because I
think a lot A lot of those are
597
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:39,300
just resume builders and, you
know, reasons to give people
598
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:43,300
additional income, you know, to
give them an additional raise or
599
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:46,000
a benefit.
So I can try not to get bogged
600
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
down on that stuff.
But I do think what we are
601
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,700
seeing right now is the early
Foundation.
602
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:54,900
It might take years, honestly,
with covid and everything and
603
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:57,200
financial issues.
But I think we're seeing the
604
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,800
foundation being laid for
Virginia Tech, splitting out
605
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,200
there, recruiting duties, and I
don't think it can hurt.
606
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,800
I think it can only help me.
And after a lot of great points
607
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,900
there from Evan, talking about
the support staff and the
608
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:13,300
recruiting stuff, take a look at
the second part, we talked about
609
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:16,200
perception.
Christina Garnett gets into The
610
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,100
Branding of Virginia Tech and
it's a really interesting take
611
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:23,500
here and she's someone that's
offered multiple times reaching
612
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:27,300
out to the program, but
obviously, if you kind of take a
613
00:37:27,308 --> 00:37:29,400
look, what's happened.
She recorders back in April,
614
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:31,100
things have changed in the last
three months.
615
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:33,500
Like maybe they've been
listening to some of the stuff
616
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:38,700
she advised.
The other thing is that, I find
617
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:43,700
that if you look on social and
you look at the hashtags and
618
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:47,200
where the hashtags are being
used, the hashtags, actually
619
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,100
have the best response when it's
done by the recruits and then
620
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,600
when it's done by the
commitments.
621
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,100
So when they're announcing and
they are aligning themselves
622
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:03,900
with this, so it it becomes a
part of the recruitment story
623
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,300
less.
So, And like the current story
624
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:12,300
of the team, if you look at them
like like for engagement wise,
625
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:16,800
if it makes more sense because
that's how their recruits are
626
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,400
identifying themselves and
there's so many questions like
627
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,600
oh, you're committing to
Virginia Tech.
628
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,800
Cool.
But what's a hokie being able to
629
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,500
have rally cry?
A hashtag dissociates with.
630
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,200
This is kind of who I am and the
hard hat.
631
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,500
Mentality feels very much in
line of what would be our
632
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:38,100
version of Lunch pail, what
would be this version?
633
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:43,300
And so, I understand where that
comes from the hard smart tough.
634
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:48,200
I don't like, just because UVA
did the same thing if like, the
635
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,200
next season and we made fun of
it.
636
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:58,500
And it was, it was three words
and I was like, yeah, it's still
637
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:01,500
a homework football card, it
doesn't.
638
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,300
And so I think the Then why the
lunch pail and Beamer ball and
639
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:11,700
Terrordome matter.
Is that their actions that back
640
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:14,500
up.
Those words, there are receipts.
641
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:19,300
Yeah, so using hashtags for hard
hat, like hard hat, mentality
642
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:22,600
and grit and hard.
Smart, Tha that doesn't really
643
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,000
carry anything.
Until there's something that
644
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,100
accompanies it.
Like, if you say Terrordome, you
645
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:32,600
don't hear Terror Dome.
You actually feel like what
646
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,700
that's like As in your mind
like, it comes with weights,
647
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:40,500
like it carries stuck with it
and that's the point of
648
00:39:40,508 --> 00:39:45,800
branding, if the some of the
best Brands, it's not the word.
649
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:49,600
It's what the, what comes with
the word, it's what weight
650
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,700
carries that think about, think
about movies or your favorite
651
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:56,700
song, or your favorite concert,
or your favorite.
652
00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:02,100
Like if you got them, if I say
McDonald's right now, You're
653
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:04,100
probably going to think about
what you're going to order.
654
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:07,500
What's your go-to order or you
might smell the fries.
655
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,800
But you have something that
comes along with the word, it
656
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,600
might even just be the jingle,
but the word on its own doesn't
657
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,000
like it doesn't exist by itself,
it carries weight with it.
658
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,300
So the thing is is that for
Branding they need to continue
659
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:28,200
these until they are able to
create with it.
660
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:37,200
Or they need to embrace.
What they what?
661
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,200
They let go.
Which was like, when you think
662
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,500
of the lunch pail, I think of
all the Times They carried it, I
663
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:47,400
think of watching them putting
like the grass.
664
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:51,000
Yes.
Like, it's not just lunch pail
665
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,300
to me.
It's like, I think a beamer ball
666
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,100
their specific plays.
Yeah.
667
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:58,800
That come into your head.
It's not the word.
668
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,900
Like that's the thing about
branding is people want to put
669
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:02,600
like a word be like this sounds
fancy.
670
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,200
Like that.
That's not the point.
671
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:08,600
It needs to evoke an emotional
response because that's what
672
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,000
care.
Aries, that's what creates
673
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,300
connection.
Another Christine has talked a
674
00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:16,800
little bit about how our
branding is perceived by folks
675
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,200
being recruited and by fans.
Let's let Dwight Vic talk a
676
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,700
little bit more about the
perception that this coaching
677
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:29,900
staff has amongst the fanbase
amongst recruits and how that
678
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:33,400
plays a role in the perception
of the program as a whole.
679
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,300
Absolutely listen.
If I wasn't tied with Lauren
680
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:40,500
Johnson, he's the best high
school coach the state of
681
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:46,400
Virginia, okay?
You know, I'm saying.
682
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,100
So like this guy Lauren, you get
a couple of Holland spring,
683
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,500
guys, because here's the funny
thing about a perception again,
684
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:59,100
two guys, I know Lauren Johnson
his players, uh, Greg doors and
685
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:03,400
Kevon Wallace wanted to be
Hokies, and look what they did
686
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,800
on the Collegiate level.
Just look.
687
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:10,200
I remember when I remember when
Kevon got the call from Clemson?
688
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,800
He was like, no, I want.
I want to go.
689
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:14,800
I'm all about today, trust me,
trust me.
690
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,600
I know this for the be Lauren
Johnson and I are tight.
691
00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:20,600
He dated my sister only football
player of my teammate, I let
692
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,600
date my sister that's all he's
married.
693
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,200
Now to another girl named Kim
and they had a beautiful family
694
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,300
including a son who take offered
the car stop.
695
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:33,800
Yeah.
So did the day it was he got to
696
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,300
do that like tech tech.
You got to get those guys that
697
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:42,500
want to be Hokies that maybe the
had three stars and Terminal
698
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:45,300
building, and eventually, you
create momentum and those
699
00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:47,800
pipelines.
You saw in the late 90s and
700
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,000
early 2000s.
Those pipelines from Western
701
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,800
Branch from Deep Creek, from
Phoebus, from Hampton, from
702
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,000
Bethel, you know, from Western
Branch.
703
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,500
You know, the Holly Springs the
Hopkins Brothers Macho because
704
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:05,100
they saw their older teen years
in juniors going there, and they
705
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:08,300
say, wow, they're playing,
they're happy, I'm gonna go into
706
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,300
and then then what happens is
you're winning text already
707
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:15,100
going to kill Lit when it comes
to food lodging presentation
708
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:17,500
because it's a beautiful campus.
That sells itself.
709
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:21,600
You don't the crowd Hokie
Nation, the loved a show.
710
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:25,100
Now, you got a formula for
success, and I think that's
711
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:27,200
that's the relationships right
now.
712
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:32,500
And I think to be fair to Fuente
and his staff, the Dead period
713
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:35,700
covid.
You know, tap who would had a
714
00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:37,900
plan who I know he did.
I talk to tap?
715
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:41,300
That's my guy.
I think they were going to be
716
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:43,600
some great.
Is done, but the Dead period has
717
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,800
killed.
Not just Tech, but a lot of
718
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,300
colleges that need to get guys
on campus versus a program, like
719
00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:52,600
Clemson in Ohio state that can
sell itself.
720
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:56,800
Yeah, but I think you get those
guys in your walk on.
721
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,500
You get these guys are even
commit or guy, like Jordan
722
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,900
Williams.
You get those guys and playing
723
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:05,700
well and they keep advocating
because when they go back to
724
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:08,600
that, when they go home for
Thanksgiving and Christmas break
725
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,900
and they go back home, they're
going to recruit and soda
726
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:13,200
program for you.
Because when they're walking
727
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,900
around the mall there at the
basketball court in the weight
728
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:19,000
room and you're like, that's
Jordan Williams and he's got the
729
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,300
tech tank top and shorts on
these listings.
730
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:27,000
Like, yeah, that's what happens.
Nice to go back home and I mean,
731
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,500
know me and Mike will go back
home.
732
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:32,000
Will you be at the old Coliseum
all or New Market Mall here in
733
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,100
the barbershop you walk in with
your Virginia Tech, bowl game,
734
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:38,900
sweat suit on your fitted cock
to the side, your Bullring
735
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:42,800
gleaming and your bag.
You like, yo y'all I'll get like
736
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,000
that.
Yo was an awesome people like
737
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,600
me.
It is euphoric for the fans and
738
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,500
the kids who are up next.
That's how you create the
739
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:56,000
connection that dynasty.
That, that whole, I want to be a
740
00:44:56,008 --> 00:44:59,600
part of it.
It can't just be a coach.
741
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,500
It's got to be your perception,
your players who are currently
742
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:06,800
there, who would like, yo, like
look at Oscar Smith, another
743
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,800
pipeline, JC Coleman.
He was on my on my, on my show
744
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,100
and he talked about how He would
come back and he got a lot of
745
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:15,900
guys there.
They come to Tech from Oscar
746
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:18,700
Smith, you know.
Yeah.
747
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:20,500
Yeah.
And you know he talked about
748
00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:24,400
covid and I feel like for a
school like Virginia Tech for a
749
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,800
team like Virginia Tech that's
really trying to recapture some
750
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,700
of that momentum on the
recruiting Trail covid.
751
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:33,700
Just was like the worst possible
time because like I said,
752
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:36,800
getting kids on campus is like
it's part of the battle and
753
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,400
being able to put tax plan in
place for getting back in the
754
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,700
high schools, the way it was
done before.
755
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:45,800
Nearly all of that was something
that could have helped with that
756
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,900
perception, with that momentum
going into 21.
757
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:52,000
And now, you know, we've got a
dead period this now extended,
758
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,100
what through the end of May.
So yeah, I understand that, I
759
00:45:57,107 --> 00:46:00,800
don't.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
760
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:06,700
It's weird.
I do think though, if we can
761
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:10,200
hopefully have this spring game,
I don't even know if that's
762
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:16,400
going to happen or some type of
showcase or something where Tech
763
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,600
and get in front of somebody
kids or vice versa.
764
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,200
So I think you're going to get
some more kids.
765
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:25,300
I just love the changes, they've
been doing in the offseason, I
766
00:46:25,308 --> 00:46:28,000
don't really get hype about a
lot of stuff in the offseason
767
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,600
because you never know.
I mean you never know with
768
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,800
attrition DUIs in eligibility
academics, you just never know.
769
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,600
I mean it's the that's what
makes it beautiful the unknown,
770
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,800
the unexpected.
That's also sometimes when makes
771
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,700
it painful and Judgmental
because the unknown we don't
772
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:47,000
know what we can build on which
is why Vegas has so much money.
773
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:52,200
But at the end of the day, I
guess I do like the higher like
774
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:54,900
the people who are in blacks
were right now.
775
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,300
Because I think you know, when
that day period is they know,
776
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:02,900
from what I know and talking to
people Pearson pray those on
777
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:04,900
that staff.
We played together for years at
778
00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:07,100
Tech.
That's my brother Justin
779
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:11,400
Hamilton's my guy.
I know they want to win and they
780
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,700
get It and they were there, they
know what it takes, but they're
781
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:17,000
handcuffed right now to some
degree with covid.
782
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,400
It's a it's it's a tough
situation and make no mistake
783
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,400
about it, you know?
I lost him close people to covid
784
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,400
and I'm sure you guys know some
stories as well.
785
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,200
And may have lost a few.
It is serious.
786
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,200
I'm not going to get political,
I don't know.
787
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,900
It's it's real.
You can feel like it's whatever
788
00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:36,200
hopes.
I know, it's real and small
789
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,400
businesses and a lot of people
have been affected and I'm just
790
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,000
praying and eventually gets
contained and we get back. some
791
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,300
normalcy because for me just you
know, football and sports
792
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:48,800
especially Virginia Tech Spring
Game, all that stuff is
793
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,400
therapeutic for me and so many
other people and hopefully you
794
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,300
know, we can get over this hump
and get back to you know,
795
00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:59,200
getting guys in that stadium and
seeing that place where I can
796
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:04,600
again, 100%.
We got to attend that first
797
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,600
spring game, the first year of
Jetson, Puentes 10 year and it
798
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,600
was great me and this guy, we
drove up, we drove back down,
799
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,000
hit all the spots.
I'm also a couple things.
800
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,500
Why jump to my next question?
You mentioned Jordan Williams, a
801
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:21,000
lot of people get on to
Wednesday like he doesn't have
802
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,800
personality yada yada, whatever
Jordan Williams said something.
803
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,900
When he came back, he basically
he said Tech was the runner-up.
804
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:30,900
He's like the relationship I
forged with coach for Dante, was
805
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,400
it held a lot to me?
And it was almost like a way he
806
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,900
said and when I saw the
opportunity you know Clemson's
807
00:48:38,900 --> 00:48:42,100
bringing people in and I'm
seeing less opportunity.
808
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,800
I still had the relationship
with the head coach.
809
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,700
So as you said before it matters
and the perception our head
810
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:51,500
coaches getting, maybe it's,
maybe it shouldn't be that way
811
00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:54,000
because of those words from
Jordan Williams, but you
812
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,600
mentioned tap, now he's gone to
the NFL of my 49ers, that's beat
813
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,700
him.
But man, let me tell you, Um
814
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:05,400
they brought in your teammate.
Somebody you have interviewed on
815
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,900
Victory Life JC price.
Yes sir.
816
00:49:07,900 --> 00:49:13,200
How do you feel about him coming
in and you know I'm assuming
817
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,200
he's going to probably pick up
the reins of a lot of what
818
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Darryl was going to do.
Jason price is a man's man, he's
819
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,500
your defensive line Mommy, I can
tell you right now.
820
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:26,900
Jason price is a guy you want to
play for and you know they
821
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:30,200
upgraded because tap was
energetic.
822
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:32,900
Eric knowledgeable, insightful
and was with it.
823
00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:36,700
You see the 49ers grab them so
he knows what he's doing but to
824
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:40,100
be fair he actually probably is
in that same position and
825
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:42,900
probably more knowledgeable and
experienced because he's been
826
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:47,300
coaching longer, he was on the
staff and he led the way when
827
00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:50,800
JMU gave took one of the biggest
upsets in college football
828
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,600
history, the year Tech win.
The ACC in 2010, their bike
829
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,000
riding Ryan Williams.
So at the end of the day, the
830
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,600
guy knows tank and he can coach
and you know, You don't you
831
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,800
looking you, people say oh you
know he was at a mid, you know,
832
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,200
made Marshall look you don't
make Marshall and JMU relevant
833
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,200
by not knowing the landscape of
the state and getting players
834
00:50:12,700 --> 00:50:15,000
that wanted and some should have
gone to.
835
00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:18,700
Okay God, do your homework.
When you talk about these guys
836
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:23,900
on Twitter, JC price was it was
definitely a great hire when it
837
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:26,400
comes down to it, man.
No Fuente.
838
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,100
You know we all be critical man
because it's tough out.
839
00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:33,600
On a ledger and he, you know the
time out this past year against
840
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,200
Liberty.
Oh my gosh.
841
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,800
I felt for him.
I was pissed but I was hopeful,
842
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,300
you know, I made a mistake.
Yeah.
843
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:43,800
I made mistakes as a player.
I mean, how many times?
844
00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:47,100
You know it has a llama so bad
when he got called for holding
845
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:48,600
and they gave the winning
touchdown.
846
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,100
I mean, or he'll go, Shayne
Graham, talked about that, on
847
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:54,300
my, so he missed a field goal
that would have wanted to beat
848
00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:57,200
us in Miami beat Miami, in
Miami, in the winning in
849
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,600
overtime, but he felt awful that
whole week.
850
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:01,900
At the end of the day, man, you
know.
851
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:05,500
Listen, it happens.
I think the whole personality
852
00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:09,700
thing is tough because went a,
when you, he doesn't, he doesn't
853
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:14,200
come across well on TV.
The same way dabbled as you know
854
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,900
dabble you know to sometimes can
be corny.
855
00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:20,800
That's me.
He is you know, you know, but
856
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,000
it's players love them and
they'll you know, they'll go to
857
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,700
bat for him and they fight for
him.
858
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:28,400
And he's able to convince guys
that shouldn't come back to come
859
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,100
back and pursue a national
champions.
860
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:33,500
Ship and and that and Fuente is
just got to be him.
861
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:37,200
And to be fair, you know, the
Beamer you guys saw a late in
862
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,900
his career when he was turning
his head and dab it and dancing
863
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:42,800
and dancing in the locker room
and UVA.
864
00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:48,300
But being more didn't exist.
When I was at tank, if you
865
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:57,300
remember, he looked like he
would kill somebody on the
866
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:02,500
sidelines.
Same word as JC Coleman and
867
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:05,700
Brandon Flowers and Chris Ellis.
God was not to be.
868
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:09,600
We were there when he was
building when he was on the hot
869
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,400
seat.
When he couldn't afford a laws,
870
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,300
you guys understand something.
That's what I'm saying looking
871
00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:18,100
for into now and if he stays and
keeps winning, he'll be a lot
872
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:20,500
different.
Then you got to be careful when
873
00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:24,700
you compare because Beamer
doesn't come across as man.
874
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:28,600
This guy's killing a room.
You know, that's not Beamer but
875
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,300
the same time you See him.
Now with his little dog, Frank,
876
00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:35,200
Hank, whatever, and he's walking
around, he's cracking jokes and
877
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,700
he's always been a funny guy
that would roast you on the low
878
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:40,600
and he's always been, you know,
highly respected and just
879
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,800
someone you want to be around
and he was all, he's always been
880
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,100
funny but you know, early in his
career which I was there for, it
881
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:50,700
wasn't fun and games.
You know, after big wins.
882
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:54,400
He might let's go and throw the
fist in the air and hug, guys,
883
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,500
whatever.
I mean, we beat Miami for the
884
00:52:57,500 --> 00:53:00,400
fourth year in a row, in the old
Orange Bowl went before It
885
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,100
became Pro Player Stadium or
whatever it's called now.
886
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:05,000
I don't know.
A name and Pizza Hut RS.
887
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,300
I don't know what it's called
but you know, we beat them back.
888
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:10,900
Then I remember in a locker when
I was elated and I'll hug them
889
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:12,700
and I was just like cause we
want.
890
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:15,000
He was like, Hey, great, when
you know, I was like, okay, you
891
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:20,300
know, like he went he was he was
different, you get older become
892
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:23,800
a grand dad and Shane's now, a
man and doing his, you your
893
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,500
looser, you know, your job
secure, you can you let your
894
00:53:27,500 --> 00:53:29,500
guard down a bit?
You know, he wasn't doing the
895
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:31,900
Nae Nae Ane.
All that do Millie WAP and all
896
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:34,800
that stuff, you know when we
would are.
897
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:40,500
So In fairness of Wednesday,
he's not going to be doing all
898
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:43,800
that right now.
He's not going to come on TV and
899
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,900
crack jokes because In fairness
to him everything now on Twitter
900
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:53,200
and social media is used against
them even if he slips up,
901
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,900
whether it's a timeout or he
missed says someone's name or
902
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,100
you know he's guarded about who
he's going to start.
903
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,700
You know, it's just going to be
his, everything's, you know,
904
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:04,500
we're on edge, because Hokie
Nation.
905
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:07,800
If there's a fan base, that
deserves a national championship
906
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,000
and deserves answers and
deserves wins, its Hokie Nation.
907
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,700
I mean, you look at the Red Sox
before they got over the hump
908
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:18,400
that Cubs the Cavaliers and
basketball.
909
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:21,900
Virginia Tech has suffered
Decades of.
910
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,600
We almost had them like the
dollar and that insurance
911
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,700
commercial.
We have almost had it so many
912
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:30,700
times the Matt Ryan You know, go
back to my years, the temple
913
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:34,100
game on the goal line, we're
ranked 14th, we win that game,
914
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:38,300
we jump on the top eight, you
know, the loss against Kansas,
915
00:54:38,300 --> 00:54:41,900
you know in the Orange Bowl and
Brandon Brandon or sit out the
916
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:45,200
first half because of Team
violation, rules Tech has been
917
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:50,300
on the doorstep for years and
now with the offense of talent
918
00:54:50,300 --> 00:54:53,400
and the offensive scheme,
whether we want to admit it or
919
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,500
not, we made it up in our mind
that we're going to be in this
920
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:58,300
National Championship especially
when we come out the gate.
921
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:04,100
In 2016, and take Clemson to The
Verge and we get down there for
922
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:06,600
what they said after the game,
he's going to go for two and you
923
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,400
got Bucky and I say, afford you
like man, Clemson is Clemson and
924
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,300
we won the coastal in his first
year and we did it to myself
925
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:19,400
with the expectations.
So now, you know, I don't think
926
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,200
Jordan Williams is mine, you
know?
927
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,000
Ask me.
I don't think Ashley's line
928
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,500
Richard Ashby.
I don't think Pablo's.
929
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:27,100
I don't think Stan Rogers a
line.
930
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:30,600
That's their coach.
I think he's just guarded, I
931
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,000
think he's just going to get,
you know, be who he is.
932
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,900
And I don't really care if he,
you know, didn't speak.
933
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,600
And just talk in Sign Language,
I just need wins.
934
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,800
You got to love the white and
then all this takes, obviously,
935
00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:53,200
one of our coaches just a few
days ago, got on Twitter and
936
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,600
things happened.
If you were there, you were
937
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,800
there.
But let's listen to Christine
938
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,200
again talking about more how we
are perceived on Twitter.
939
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,500
And again it's one of those
things that in the last few
940
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:08,000
months things have changed.
You're seeing different.
941
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,100
We're not seeing the time tweets
anymore.
942
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:15,400
So again maybe they've been
listening Let me ask this about
943
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,600
Twitter.
Yeah, and if you don't want to
944
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:24,800
answer it, you don't have to
give me a number grade that you
945
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,700
would give the Virginia Tech
football.
946
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:29,100
Twitter account, number great,
not letter.
947
00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:34,100
Number grade wondering 100.
It's an 80.
948
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:37,800
It's an 80 they're doing.
Okay, I'm glad that they're,
949
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:41,800
it's, it's their Twitter wears a
tie.
950
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:53,500
It's, it's to curated the copies
to clean the scheduling's to
951
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:58,000
like specific, even if it's a
brand needs, what it needs to
952
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,800
feel like there's a fan at the
bank.
953
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,500
Okay, so I'll go back to
McDonald's because I know
954
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:05,600
someone on their social media
team and I love what they're
955
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,400
doing.
Some of the best stuff that
956
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,600
McDonald's has been doing is
they're being incredibly
957
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,100
vulnerable and real and Talking
about customer experience like
958
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,400
one of the tweets that they did
that they did that.
959
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,200
I absolutely loved was it's
never, how are you doing social
960
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,500
media manager?
It's always one.
961
00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:28,200
Is McRib coming back or is are
you feeling okay you've barely
962
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,000
touched the top of your cup
because they were like you poke
963
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,600
the the top like you poke the
little bubbles.
964
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:36,200
Okay.
Another one was.
965
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:41,200
Can I get?
It feels so human and so you
966
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:48,400
want.
You want it to feel human, it
967
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,100
needs to feel like the person
who's doing the copy and who is
968
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:56,400
typing, and seeing the same,
seeing the same game that you
969
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,200
are an ass prostrated when
you're frustrated and happy when
970
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,800
you're happy and it's just it's
a lot of hashtags and it's a lot
971
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,600
of emojis and it just doesn't
feel authentic.
972
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:43,300
Okay.
And that's what it you're right.
973
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:48,500
And you just that is just such a
great analogy to what our
974
00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:51,200
Twitter is.
And and I'm going to say what I
975
00:58:51,207 --> 00:58:55,600
said a couple seconds ago.
This is a football, Twitter we
976
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,100
nice wear your tie very cordial
sport.
977
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:03,700
It's pop.
It's hitting each other, it's a
978
00:59:03,707 --> 00:59:06,500
lot.
But let's also compare it to a
979
00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:08,700
know, we've talked about Mike
young earlier but let's go.
980
00:59:08,900 --> 00:59:13,700
Here Hokies Football Twitter
account with the Hokies men's
981
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:19,500
basketball, Twitter account and
the type of Engagement that they
982
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:22,300
were getting this season and the
type of tweets that they were
983
00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:27,200
sending out and how those were
tracking with the fan base and
984
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,700
it's night and day.
And I know who runs that
985
00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:36,500
account.
And I they're younger and they
986
00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:39,100
are passionate about the team.
Mmmmm.
987
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,300
Yeah, and it reads it reads that
way.
988
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:47,400
I mean there's I also love the
fact that I love that there
989
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,000
doesn't always have to be there,
doesn't always have to be a
990
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,000
graphic, okay?
And you can be playful with
991
00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:00,600
Emoji playful with gifts.
And you can, I love that there
992
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:07,900
is it just feels like I can tell
a fan is running the basketball
993
01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:11,500
account.
It feels like they're watching
994
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:13,300
the game with us.
Yep.
995
01:00:13,700 --> 01:00:17,400
Yep.
And I am also a fan of if you
996
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,800
can do short, copy always do
short.
997
01:00:19,900 --> 01:00:24,900
It's so much easier.
Like it's the shorter.
998
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,400
It is.
The more likely it is to come
999
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:33,300
across as healthy and get to the
point, the more copy there is
1000
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:36,000
the more it feels didactic and
serious.
1001
01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:38,200
Like I don't need it to be
serious.
1002
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:42,500
Like height me up like make it,
make it feel special.
1003
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:47,400
Let me, let me know what you're
doing, and then I like that,
1004
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,500
they, I like that both of them
that both accounts are starting
1005
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:53,200
to share, like, third-party
content, but I think there's
1006
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,600
opportunities to do something
really cool.
1007
01:00:55,900 --> 01:00:59,000
Like, for example, I would love
it.
1008
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:05,200
If they brought back one of
like, find an old, find an older
1009
01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:08,800
and older player, alumni who are
really good.
1010
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:15,200
Twitter who get it, have them do
a take over for the game, okay?
1011
01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:19,500
Account for the day, it'll give
it'll get flavor, it'll feel
1012
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:21,800
very different.
People who've never turned in
1013
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,700
before, will turn in to say hi.
I think, I think there's just so
1014
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:27,900
many opportunities to be able to
do that.
1015
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,300
The other thing that I think was
a missed opportunity was there
1016
01:01:31,300 --> 01:01:36,500
weren't a lot of players that
were, there were a lot of people
1017
01:01:36,500 --> 01:01:39,200
who were able to watch the game
last year and There were a
1018
01:01:39,207 --> 01:01:41,800
couple people who were able to
go and did like a few minute
1019
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,800
lives.
But what I think would have been
1020
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,900
really, really, really cool.
Is they because they ask for
1021
01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:53,400
money like can you will take
your money and you just like
1022
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,800
forgive your seat.
Yeah, yeah.
1023
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,900
What if you did a private like
what if you did a video you
1024
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:05,000
linked it and you have a camera
from one specific seat, it could
1025
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,100
be at the 50-yard line and you
just have someone recording live
1026
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,600
and you get access to that to
that feed.
1027
01:02:12,700 --> 01:02:14,900
So you get to watch the game
from that seat for the whole
1028
01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:16,500
game.
Instead of watching it on TV,
1029
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:18,900
you get to actually it's as
close as To get to feeling like
1030
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:22,400
you're in the stadium and you
pay extra for it, whatever you
1031
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,500
wanted to put for it.
But you can call it like the
1032
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:28,800
50-yard, the 50-yard seat.
Yeah, someone will be there and
1033
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,400
they'll move the cameras, the
plays are happening, but you'll
1034
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,900
get to be as close as you can to
being Lane.
1035
01:02:35,900 --> 01:02:37,900
During all of that.
I feel like that was a missed
1036
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:42,300
opportunity.
I love the metaphor about our
1037
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:43,700
Twitter.
Wearing a tie.
1038
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,500
Yeah, what about favorite
metaphors from that episode?
1039
01:02:48,500 --> 01:02:53,800
But let's pivot a little bit to
how kind of covid impacted some
1040
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,500
of the off, the field stuff and
some of the on the field stuff
1041
01:02:57,500 --> 01:03:02,900
from the 2020 season.
So Evan Watkins broke that down
1042
01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:05,600
in our discussion with him back
in February so we'll let him
1043
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,000
take off on that again here.
Like I mentioned earlier if
1044
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,400
you're outside that top 400,
guys going into the state of are
1045
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,800
going into your senior year
with, as many kids didn't get to
1046
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:20,100
play their senior senior year
with zero summer camps.
1047
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,200
I take a lot of that.
Throw it out the window.
1048
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,800
You know, if you're a five-star
five-star we all can see it.
1049
01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:30,900
But if you're if you're a mid 3
star and a high three-star,
1050
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,900
what's the difference?
If you're a low forestall, if
1051
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:38,500
you know, you're a an 87 and a
90 The difference between a 3
1052
01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:42,000
star 4 star, there's really not
that much difference.
1053
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,500
When you think when you add in
the fact that there was no camps
1054
01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:49,000
no spring workouts, and possibly
no fall.
1055
01:03:49,300 --> 01:03:52,900
So, you know, I think Virginia
Tech signed some good football
1056
01:03:52,900 --> 01:03:55,800
players in this class.
The rankings won't necessarily
1057
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,900
reflected, as well, as I think
it should.
1058
01:03:58,700 --> 01:04:03,200
But I do think they did well
adapting in this environment
1059
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,000
that was almost unable to be
planned for.
1060
01:04:07,500 --> 01:04:09,800
Let's go ahead and pick you back
straight off of that because I
1061
01:04:09,808 --> 01:04:12,000
feel like, you know, you hit
hard on like, you know, not
1062
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,100
having the lot of senior tape
for these guys not having really
1063
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:20,100
any of the Camp's.
What guys, in this class, do you
1064
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:23,100
think had the biggest potential
for that kind of offseason
1065
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:26,900
bumper that senior season bump?
If we were operating business as
1066
01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:31,000
usual?
You know, I think in in state,
1067
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,500
you know, I look at a guy like
like a Jalen strowman I think
1068
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:37,700
Jalen's strohman a very good
football player and I think he
1069
01:04:38,300 --> 01:04:42,400
was really coming into his own
as a junior, obviously he has
1070
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,200
some advantages being Greg's
little brother and and some of
1071
01:04:45,207 --> 01:04:47,200
the guys he worked out with and
trains with.
1072
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,800
He's got really good size range
and speed.
1073
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,800
I think he probably would have
been in line for one Jalen
1074
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,700
Jones.
Another thousand yard receiver
1075
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,200
in at a Richmond now didn't play
The best competition in the
1076
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,600
world.
But if you can put together
1077
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,100
back-to-back thousand yard
receiving years that's hard to
1078
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:07,100
deny.
You know, guys like that.
1079
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,800
I think Kelly Lawson probably
had the most outside.
1080
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,000
Yeah.
If Kelly Lawson could camp and
1081
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:20,300
had a senior year before signing
day, I would not be shocked if
1082
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:22,000
he was a four-star by some
rankings.
1083
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,200
I mean you look at what he's
done.
1084
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:27,500
You look at his first, you will
do the body and you think like,
1085
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,900
you know, he And play anything.
Is he?
1086
01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:31,700
The next Tremaine?
Is he the next?
1087
01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:35,600
Amari bar know, you know, we
don't really know right now, but
1088
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,100
you look at what he does in his
workouts you look at and you
1089
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:42,400
don't think he was clocked.
Was he clocked at 20?
1090
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,900
Please o'clock at 26 on one of
the, one of his training videos?
1091
01:05:46,900 --> 01:05:50,300
It was, it was Unreal, how fast
he was moving on.
1092
01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:52,400
One of the, the treadmills that
clocks.
1093
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:57,000
It was it was it was it almost
the equivalent of a Caleb
1094
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,000
Farley.
And this guy, Guys got a much
1095
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:04,800
different type of body so you
know, I think he's a guy that
1096
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,500
would have probably gone up a
little bit in the rank.
1097
01:06:08,500 --> 01:06:10,300
He's, you know, guy like DJ
Harvey.
1098
01:06:10,300 --> 01:06:12,400
I think DJ Harvey probably would
have played his way up, if
1099
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,100
California was playing football
in the in the fall, you know.
1100
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:21,500
I think You know, one guy I
think that was held down and I
1101
01:06:21,508 --> 01:06:24,900
don't really know why because he
was super productive, but I
1102
01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:26,900
think Kenji.
Christian is somebody that also
1103
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:32,800
was kind of a victim of rankings
where I feel like he's probably
1104
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,800
a four star talent.
I think he's a really good
1105
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,800
running back.
I think he maybe was overlooked
1106
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,500
a little bit because you're
coming from the state of Alabama
1107
01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:43,400
and you don't have an Auburn
offer and you don't have an
1108
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:49,000
Alabama offer LSU.
Yes, you was maybe within hours
1109
01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:52,400
of offering and before their
restrictions hit, you know, this
1110
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,900
is a guy that he's got, he's an
SEC player and you know, he
1111
01:06:56,900 --> 01:07:01,600
luckily for Virginia Tech.
He didn't get you know, those
1112
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,100
three SEC offers that would have
been a game-changer foreman and
1113
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:07,200
now he's he's headed to
Blacksburg.
1114
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:11,000
I think he's a guy that a lot of
people kind of Overlook, you
1115
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,400
know, I think Christian Moss is
an interesting one, you know,
1116
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,000
everybody talked about Trey
Kerby, Remember Trey Curry was
1117
01:07:18,008 --> 01:07:21,400
committed to Virginia Tech for a
little while for Star Trek.
1118
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,300
Very actually transferred to
North Cobb for his senior year,
1119
01:07:24,300 --> 01:07:26,600
they played together him, and
Christian Moss, Christian
1120
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:31,200
Moscow, better wide receiver.
Kristina Moss was was the top
1121
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,200
guy at North Cobb and he's a,
he's a mid three-star guy, he's
1122
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:39,100
got great size, he's got really
good range and he's just a guy
1123
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:40,500
that fell through the covid
cracks.
1124
01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:43,800
So, you know, I think when you
look at it and you go through
1125
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,800
each of these players, you know,
every year I try to look at at
1126
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,000
the commit and I think who is,
who's a reach?
1127
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,200
Who's a guy that I can look at
right now and say, I don't think
1128
01:07:54,207 --> 01:07:55,500
they're going to play in,
Virginia Tech.
1129
01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:59,500
And when you look down their
list right now, There's not a
1130
01:07:59,508 --> 01:08:02,200
lot of those guys.
There are some good ones you say
1131
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,400
there's some guys, you say might
take it might take a year or two
1132
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,600
maybe three, maybe, you know,
maybe they won't play until
1133
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,900
their upperclassmen but there's
not a whole lot.
1134
01:08:10,900 --> 01:08:14,100
You look at and you say, I don't
see it, I don't know what
1135
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:15,900
they're seeing in the sky, I
don't see it at all.
1136
01:08:16,399 --> 01:08:18,800
So, you know, I think when you
look at it that way, I think the
1137
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,200
Hokies, you know, I think they
did they did as well as I think
1138
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,800
that they probably could under
the circumstances of everything
1139
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,300
going around them covid and
potentially the hot Little
1140
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:35,100
Justin Fuente.
And you know, as much as covid
1141
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:38,100
did affect it affected the fan
base that, well obviously
1142
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:42,300
affected the Hokie club and
Christina, Garnet goes into it
1143
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:45,200
seems like the only time we were
getting things from hockey club
1144
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,800
was, you know, right after right
after a game, whether that be
1145
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,300
win or lose.
So she sort of gives them what
1146
01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:54,700
she'd visions and hopefully Cub
can become.
1147
01:08:54,700 --> 01:08:58,399
And again, it's great takes from
her.
1148
01:09:01,300 --> 01:09:04,600
It's the thing is that was that
like and this is gonna sound
1149
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,399
really bad for any marketers on
the, but they'll agree with me.
1150
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,899
Get in the head of your customer
and really think about the
1151
01:09:11,899 --> 01:09:14,899
customer experience.
Like, you don't need a marketing
1152
01:09:14,899 --> 01:09:17,700
class.
You need to be able to think,
1153
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:22,100
like the person you want to
Target really swim in that.
1154
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:29,200
Like you said, where are you
going to be the most height, the
1155
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:33,800
most Pro Hokies the most loose
with your wallet just before the
1156
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,899
start of a game that's before
the start of the game.
1157
01:09:35,899 --> 01:09:38,000
I'm excited for the leave it.
If I'm sitting at home.
1158
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:39,899
I'm excited for what I'm about
to watch.
1159
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:44,500
I'm engaged with the program as
optimistic as I'm going to be is
1160
01:09:44,500 --> 01:09:46,800
before just before that kickoff.
Yep.
1161
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,399
Regardless of what happens win
or lose the most optimistic.
1162
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:51,300
I'm probably going to be about
this game is just before
1163
01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:52,500
kickoff.
Yeah.
1164
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:55,400
That's we're going to feel the
best about the program.
1165
01:09:55,900 --> 01:09:58,600
What I can do is you can even do
it as like.
1166
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:00,500
I know that nonprofits can do
this.
1167
01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:03,400
I don't know if they'd be able
to do it, but having like a text
1168
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:08,700
campaign like text, hashtag
Hokies to five four, three, two,
1169
01:10:08,700 --> 01:10:15,800
one, and you get 20 e, send $25.
That is and I mean as we're
1170
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,800
moving forward, this whole thing
with donations, we're going to
1171
01:10:18,808 --> 01:10:23,600
need a lot more money coming in
especially relative to the what
1172
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,400
people in the ACC or doing
because we're already falling
1173
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,100
behind on that front, especially
on the individual donation side
1174
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:34,500
of things.
In terms of what we are putting
1175
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:38,400
funding wise into the program.
We're about middle of the pack
1176
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,000
in terms of total money and
we're towards like the back
1177
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,500
third.
In terms of donations.
1178
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,500
We got to figure out something
to get, get those in here and it
1179
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:52,400
and I know winning helps.
But in lieu of that, we're going
1180
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,600
to need to figure out another
way to get more folks engaged in
1181
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:00,000
the program, both with, you
know, putting asses in seats at
1182
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,700
game but also putting money into
the the into hope Club.
1183
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,700
Well, here's the thing, hokey
Club, when you think about
1184
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:12,300
Hockey Club, what do you what is
like your first thought drive
1185
01:11:12,300 --> 01:11:15,200
for 25, but you know what, it
should feel like.
1186
01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:19,500
The hockey club should be ran
like an ambassador program, not
1187
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:22,000
like an entry-level donation
Point.
1188
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,500
That's what, that's what poke
Club is.
1189
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:28,100
It's, it's here's your entry to
becoming a donor to Virginia
1190
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:30,200
Tech football and that's not
what it should be.
1191
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,800
It should be an ambassador
program where everyone that gets
1192
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,100
to be a part of that is given
tools that they can share their
1193
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:40,300
fan Hood.
Here's the latest.
1194
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,400
Here's the latest graphic.
We're going to give you that you
1195
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,300
can share in Social before
anyone else?
1196
01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:46,300
Here's a special.
Banner that you can put for your
1197
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:49,100
Twitter and Facebook.
Here's here's a Keepsake that
1198
01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:52,900
you can have.
Here's here's here's a free
1199
01:11:52,900 --> 01:11:56,400
ticket to bring someone who's
never been to a hoagie game like
1200
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:03,500
just it shouldn't feel like now
it feels like it feels like
1201
01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:05,600
Hokey Club is the token answer
for.
1202
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,500
Do I do you support Virginia
Tech football with your money
1203
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,800
and people say yes I'm a hoagie
Club member that's it.
1204
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,300
Shouldn't feel like it's tied to
money poke Club.
1205
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:17,100
Should never feel like it's tied
to money.
1206
01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:23,300
It should feel like that's your
entry into becoming the person
1207
01:12:23,300 --> 01:12:26,800
who gets to be on the field.
The person who gets to help the
1208
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,500
person who gets to weave
themselves into the history of
1209
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:33,700
Virginia Tech.
It should feel like that is how
1210
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,000
you enter the community.
It should feel emotional, it
1211
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,000
shouldn't be tied to money.
Should be tied to emotion.
1212
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:46,400
Like what I would love to say
honestly as soon as things are
1213
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,600
open and as soon as It's a for
us all to congregate.
1214
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,300
I would love for there to be a
field day at Lane.
1215
01:12:53,300 --> 01:12:55,200
So y'all go.
Yep that'd be really cool.
1216
01:12:55,300 --> 01:12:59,800
Just be in that Stadium again.
You can have layers, you can
1217
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:04,400
have past players, you can have
the staff but it literally is
1218
01:13:04,500 --> 01:13:10,500
like the whole point.
The whole point is you go and
1219
01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:13,200
you get to stay in on the field
and you get to meet some of your
1220
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,200
favorite players and you get to
hang out and hug your friends
1221
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,300
that you would normally use
Haven't seen in months but used
1222
01:13:19,300 --> 01:13:23,900
to tailgate with all the time
just do like a fifty dollar, a
1223
01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:28,800
ticket field day and you get to
go and you get to hang out and
1224
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,300
you get to hug your hokey
friends.
1225
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,900
And what I like about what she
said there is that we're
1226
01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:39,700
starting to see a little bit
more of that come into play.
1227
01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:44,900
As some of, you know, you know,
we've been pushing some of the
1228
01:13:44,900 --> 01:13:50,500
Hokey Club Ambassador elements
into our sign off here, where
1229
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:53,900
we're encouraging you to join
the Hokie Club.
1230
01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:57,300
Let's reach for excellence and
Achieve those goals at the same
1231
01:13:57,300 --> 01:14:00,400
time.
Let's get another take here from
1232
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,500
Evan Watkins on it.
Another issue that's going to I
1233
01:14:03,500 --> 01:14:06,200
think rear its head here very
soon and we're already starting
1234
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,000
to see some of it but it's the
scholarship issue that resulted
1235
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:14,100
from the essentially 2020 being
a free year for everyone.
1236
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:20,600
So he breaks down, not just that
what we're looking at, starting
1237
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,200
this year, but that going into
next year is going to be really
1238
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:29,700
when this issue starts to be a
problem because of those
1239
01:14:29,700 --> 01:14:31,000
numbers.
And because of having to get
1240
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,300
back to B5.
Yeah, you know and here I could
1241
01:14:34,300 --> 01:14:37,200
throw a couple numbers out at
you because it's 24/7.
1242
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,500
Sports ran out really good
article on this recently that
1243
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:44,000
FBS college.
Football teams signed more than
1244
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,800
400 fewer recruits to
Scholarships in 2021 that they
1245
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:55,200
did for 2020 and 2019, holy cow.
So that that is fairly
1246
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:56,600
eye-opening.
I would say.
1247
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:02,900
Now 2022, might be worse and
that That's, you know, that's
1248
01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:05,600
where things can start to get a
little scary but we'll start,
1249
01:15:05,700 --> 01:15:10,000
we'll start with 2021.
So when you're in 2021 when
1250
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:15,400
you're, you know, when you're
trying to to recruit 21:8 covid
1251
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:20,600
hits.
You are, if you are not one of
1252
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,000
the top will estimate will round
to 400.
1253
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,600
If you are not one of the top
400 players in this in the
1254
01:15:26,608 --> 01:15:32,100
country, your rankings may not
matter, kind of at all, to be
1255
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:36,300
honest, because the big ranking
periods for you outside.
1256
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:39,600
That top 400 would be junior
film.
1257
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:45,200
Eval spring workouts, summer
camps senior season.
1258
01:15:46,700 --> 01:15:50,200
Now you pick players in the
state of Virginia, they had to,
1259
01:15:50,300 --> 01:15:52,300
they had, they had their junior
season.
1260
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,100
There's no Spring football, no
spring workouts, at all, you
1261
01:15:57,100 --> 01:16:02,100
have no summer camps at all.
You have no senior season.
1262
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:07,200
Before signing day three out of
the four ranking opportunities.
1263
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:13,300
You had are gone.
Now, that also means three out
1264
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:16,000
of the four, major scholarship
opportunities.
1265
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:24,400
You had are now gone as well.
So you you not only you not only
1266
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,900
could be somebody that all
through the cracks, you are also
1267
01:16:28,900 --> 01:16:34,200
somebody that even if a school
takes a chance on you, That
1268
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:39,400
school is taking a major Risk by
offering you a scholarship.
1269
01:16:39,700 --> 01:16:42,800
If you haven't played football
in a year, they haven't seen
1270
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:47,800
you, they haven't see you on
campus to see, are you really 64
1271
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,800
or are you 61?
Are you really 220 pounds?
1272
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:56,000
Are you really 180 pounds?
You know, they can't get you out
1273
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:00,200
of Camp to say, you say you ran
a 44 and we clocked you at a 49.
1274
01:17:00,900 --> 01:17:05,600
So, you're taking a major Risk
by offering those scholarships.
1275
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:10,300
Now, on top of that, what you
have to balance out and a lot of
1276
01:17:10,300 --> 01:17:12,600
college coaches did balance this
out.
1277
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:19,100
Is, do we take that risk on a
borderline recruit?
1278
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,200
We're not talking the five-star,
we're talking the the mid
1279
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:26,100
three-star guy that may or may
not pan out, or do we hit the
1280
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:30,500
transfer portal because the
transfer portal has, you know, A
1281
01:17:30,508 --> 01:17:34,700
lot of talent in it of guys who
have verified Heights and
1282
01:17:34,700 --> 01:17:39,400
weights have verified game game
film for most of them, or at
1283
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:44,000
least college, practice film,
and these are guys that won't
1284
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,900
tie up a scholarship for five
years.
1285
01:17:45,900 --> 01:17:49,000
If they don't pan out, these are
guys that you could tie the
1286
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:53,700
scholarship for 1 to 3 years.
And then when all of this maybe
1287
01:17:53,700 --> 01:17:57,400
starts to normalize, then you go
back and you recruit back, fill
1288
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:02,600
that position, you back recruit
that number. so you know, when
1289
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,300
you when you look at it through
that way, if you are not a top
1290
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:12,400
of the board guy for most
schools, You run the risk, ran
1291
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,700
the risk of not having an
opportunity to play at the
1292
01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:16,800
level, you want to play at.
You may have to drop down a
1293
01:18:16,808 --> 01:18:21,200
level, or you maybe didn't get a
chance to to sign with anybody
1294
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,500
yet.
Because even when you think of
1295
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:29,200
dropping down a level, some of
those schools, you know, Texas
1296
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,100
state is a great example.
I know they're not Regional to
1297
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:36,600
us but they're a great example
that they looked at this year
1298
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:41,200
and said you know they kind of
just said screw it You know, 0,
1299
01:18:41,300 --> 01:18:46,100
we can get another weekly zero.
They took zero high school kids
1300
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:48,200
and only recruited the transfer
portal.
1301
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,800
But you know what that does also
for them?
1302
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,400
That that some people may not
even think of when they hear
1303
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,200
that, think that's ridiculous.
But what they did is they just
1304
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:01,500
postponed a year because you
know what we're looking at now,
1305
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,900
you know, looking at that with
2021 covid aside, you know,
1306
01:19:05,900 --> 01:19:10,900
let's say covid ends today and
life goes by back normal and the
1307
01:19:10,900 --> 01:19:14,100
Dead period ends and everything.
Cool, everything's good.
1308
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:20,600
The NCAA extended scholarship
limits for the 2021 season for
1309
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,800
players to hold over you know
seniors get a chance to play
1310
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,500
again down to freshman getting
their freshman year back.
1311
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,300
Okay, that's great.
So we extend that out, you know,
1312
01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:33,600
theoretically you could have 25
senior scholarship seniors.
1313
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,400
Most people, don't you,
theoretically could see what
1314
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:42,700
that gives, you 110 scholarships
theoretically for 24 this year.
1315
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:49,200
But after this year, you have to
be an 85 scholarship starting
1316
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,900
next year.
How do you get there?
1317
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,200
You know, I talked to I talked
to one of our talk to one of our
1318
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,100
guys, in the industry today.
You know, one of our national
1319
01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:03,300
guys were 24/7 Sports and he I
told him I said, you know, I
1320
01:20:03,308 --> 01:20:07,200
think it's crazy.
The NCAA needs to do something,
1321
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,100
you know, in my opinion they
need to extend it not as far,
1322
01:20:10,700 --> 01:20:15,300
but extended a little bit and I
was like, Virginia Tech for
1323
01:20:15,300 --> 01:20:18,800
example, you know, I ran an
article two weeks ago, Virginia
1324
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,600
Tech has roughly eight
scholarships open right now for
1325
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,900
2022.
Now, that will obviously expand.
1326
01:20:25,900 --> 01:20:30,500
We all know that, that eight is
going to grow 1517, maybe even
1327
01:20:30,500 --> 01:20:33,300
up to 20 with attrition and
transfer portal and things like
1328
01:20:33,300 --> 01:20:38,800
that.
But just Today about 8 and he
1329
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,800
said, there are teams out there
right now that are - there are
1330
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,600
teams out there right now that
have to lose players on
1331
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,900
Scholarship today to sign anyone
in 2022.
1332
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,700
So you know, when we look at
this and we say, oh they signed
1333
01:20:55,700 --> 01:21:01,900
400 less people this year in
2021 due to covid and that's
1334
01:21:01,900 --> 01:21:06,200
terrible.
I could see it exponentially
1335
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:10,500
larger in 2022 because College
college programs don't have the
1336
01:21:10,508 --> 01:21:14,100
space.
Yeah, so what one of two things
1337
01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:16,100
will have to happen.
You are going to have to see
1338
01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:20,500
massive attrition and nobody
likes to talk about attrition
1339
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,500
attrition isn't always bad
players entering.
1340
01:21:23,500 --> 01:21:27,300
The portal is not always bad.
I think, you know, Virginia Tech
1341
01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:30,800
fans in particular especially
what has happened over the last
1342
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,400
few years and some of the guys
leaving think people leaving the
1343
01:21:34,407 --> 01:21:38,200
transport transfer portal is a
major problem, but you have to
1344
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,500
look at it, multiple ways, some
people leave the transfer portal
1345
01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:44,800
because they're unhappy some
people leave the transfer portal
1346
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,800
because they want more playing
time or better opportunity, some
1347
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,800
people leave the transfer
portal, early Levi, the transfer
1348
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,000
portal.
I was just simply because of
1349
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,800
academics or an off the field
issue.
1350
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,700
Some people will leave to be
closer to home some people.
1351
01:22:00,700 --> 01:22:04,700
Decide, nobody really wants to
talk about, are asked to leave
1352
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,400
the that.
Don't mean people act like that,
1353
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,500
don't happen, that happens.
People are asked to leave your
1354
01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:12,600
scholarship, may not be
retained.
1355
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:16,300
If it is retained, you may not
see the field, you may not play.
1356
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,600
It may be worth it for you to
find an opportunity elsewhere
1357
01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:23,400
and you know, a lot of That that
happens everywhere.
1358
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,400
Now you're going to add it on
top of that, moving forward, the
1359
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,300
scholarship number crunch that
every school is dealing with.
1360
01:22:31,700 --> 01:22:33,300
We have to free up space,
somehow?
1361
01:22:33,700 --> 01:22:37,500
Yeah, you're going to deal with
the money of it, you know, I
1362
01:22:37,500 --> 01:22:41,600
heard, you know, every what does
it every 10?
1363
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,900
Scholarships, every 10
scholarships is roughly a
1364
01:22:44,900 --> 01:22:48,300
million dollars.
So, you know, if you're carrying
1365
01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:50,900
over a lot of scholarships,
you're carrying over a lot of
1366
01:22:50,900 --> 01:22:54,500
money.
So some schools are saying, hey,
1367
01:22:54,500 --> 01:22:58,000
we know, the NCAA said you can
carry over and go over 85 this
1368
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,400
year, but we can't afford it, so
we're not doing it.
1369
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,700
So You know, some of those
players may have to find other
1370
01:23:03,700 --> 01:23:08,800
homes and then we're going to
add the the Colossal mess that I
1371
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,900
foresee coming of players
entering the transfer portal
1372
01:23:11,900 --> 01:23:16,700
because we were at 2021 signee.
We never saw the coach's face to
1373
01:23:16,700 --> 01:23:19,200
face.
We never step foot on campus,
1374
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,600
before we signed.
And we hate it here.
1375
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,800
We're in a bad situation.
We're going to see that become
1376
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,800
very apparent and I think it'll
be very apparent, very quickly.
1377
01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:32,900
I wouldn't be As you see a lot
of freshmen all over the
1378
01:23:32,900 --> 01:23:35,500
country, start to enter the
portal after getting on campus
1379
01:23:35,500 --> 01:23:36,600
and being there for a few
months.
1380
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,400
And realizing, you know, maybe
what I was sold in recruiting
1381
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:46,000
isn't reality, you know.
Maybe, you know, I thought I was
1382
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:50,000
coming into this, you know,
great opportunity.
1383
01:23:50,700 --> 01:23:53,200
You know, I thought maybe I was
going to be a guy that had a
1384
01:23:53,208 --> 01:23:56,000
shot at early playing time to
find out that I'm fourth team on
1385
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,800
the depth chart.
When I get here, maybe I'm a guy
1386
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:04,500
who never realized And how small
this campus is, or how big this
1387
01:24:04,500 --> 01:24:07,200
campus is, or how far away from
home.
1388
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:11,000
It is, you know, what do I do?
They, you know, and I have to
1389
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,400
live on campus for a year and
they tell me, I can't have a car
1390
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:15,800
and how do I, you know, how do I
do it?
1391
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,500
The typical College, you know,
things and you have to learn and
1392
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:25,200
adjust when you get there and I
think we're going to see that
1393
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:31,900
fairly quickly because I'm just
lie, the NCAA kind of force, the
1394
01:24:31,900 --> 01:24:37,100
hand of recruits to sign sight.
Unseen for the majority of them
1395
01:24:37,500 --> 01:24:40,200
and I think a lot of colleges
took advantage of that and said
1396
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,700
hey if you don't sign with us or
you don't commit to us, now
1397
01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:45,300
you're not going to have a spot,
you know, nobody else.
1398
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,800
No other schools may not take
you lock in your spot now and
1399
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,700
they may not be in love with the
choice that they made.
1400
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:58,800
Alright, lastly folks got into a
lot of fun and In discussing the
1401
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:04,700
rivalries that we had with, not
only for jenya Miami, but also
1402
01:25:04,700 --> 01:25:06,800
West Virginia, which is
obviously big this year because
1403
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,000
it can be the first time we
played in Morgantown and close
1404
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,200
to 20 years, the white getting
this.
1405
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:17,600
You just heard the passion and
knowing the importance and much
1406
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,800
as people want to knock.
Miami's always will be an actual
1407
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,300
brain.
Like he says, we do need UVA to
1408
01:25:23,300 --> 01:25:26,500
be better and it's my opinion.
If they get a little better,
1409
01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:28,200
it's going to help out
everything but here's the
1410
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,300
whites.
Take on that from back in March,
1411
01:25:31,900 --> 01:25:35,800
let me ask this in and I want to
kind of phrases to, right way
1412
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:40,400
because in when we were coming
up Miami and UVA the rivalry
1413
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,100
games, when those games were
played, it was a big deal.
1414
01:25:43,700 --> 01:25:47,800
It was, I mean, when you got
there 94 to roughly probably
1415
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:52,300
06-07.
Those games were Wars and me and
1416
01:25:52,300 --> 01:25:56,500
Brian been talking, like, do you
feel that whether Miami or UVA
1417
01:25:56,500 --> 01:26:00,000
or maybe a semblance of both
like those rivalry games, get
1418
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,300
back to where they were 20 years
ago?
1419
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:07,100
We're like you mentioned the
Miami game when it's a night
1420
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:10,900
game, both teams are in the top
10 or the Commonwealth Cup game.
1421
01:26:10,900 --> 01:26:17,600
When you know like 95 when that
happened when you know, both
1422
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,800
teams have 10 wins.
And both teams are trying to get
1423
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,300
to the Sugar Bowl and both teams
ranked in the top 15.
1424
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:26,300
What do you think is more
important?
1425
01:26:26,300 --> 01:26:30,600
That helps Elevate pecs program?
Is it both or do you have a
1426
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,200
preference?
Well let me just add this real
1427
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,200
quick.
You forgot to mention West
1428
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:40,200
Virginia because West Virginia
was all up in that and you can
1429
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,900
make an argument as now you can
make the argument to West
1430
01:26:42,900 --> 01:26:46,100
Virginia, Virginia Tech robbery
during the 90s and the early
1431
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:48,800
2000s before Tech jump to the
ACC and go forward.
1432
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,600
Probably better games and more
important than the Virginia Tech
1433
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,700
UVA robbery.
But during my era to your point
1434
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,500
that you VA Virginia Tech
robbery was epic and the Miami
1435
01:27:00,500 --> 01:27:03,300
robbery with tech for years was
epic.
1436
01:27:03,300 --> 01:27:06,100
It was it was Bloodshed, it was,
you know, Braveheart near the
1437
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:11,000
end of the movie.
It was real in order is my
1438
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:15,100
preference.
I would like oh this is going to
1439
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:19,200
make some people mad.
I like it when taking you here
1440
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:23,600
both good because I grew up in
that and it's good for the kids.
1441
01:27:23,700 --> 01:27:26,700
Great for the Commonwealth.
People look at me funny on
1442
01:27:26,700 --> 01:27:29,800
camera.
When I celebrate UVA not that
1443
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,200
they are celebrating wins but
I'm like hey that's a good one.
1444
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:37,300
That's good for us.
I mean if it's just better you
1445
01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:40,700
know Jonathan McLaughlin was
like Hey everybody post your
1446
01:27:40,700 --> 01:27:42,400
comment with you know, draining
out the cup.
1447
01:27:42,500 --> 01:27:45,800
Up and I said, oh, I lost my
last two years you were here and
1448
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,900
he couldn't even fathom that.
And I said, hey man, they were
1449
01:27:49,900 --> 01:27:51,500
really good.
Y'all beat some UV.
1450
01:27:51,500 --> 01:27:54,000
A team that couldn't be
Centerville High School on the
1451
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:58,200
road, okay?
So you don't calm down soaking
1452
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:02,700
me, you know, because my UVA
battles, we were going against,
1453
01:28:02,700 --> 01:28:06,500
you know, Dingo and Patrick
Carney and Wally Raynor and the
1454
01:28:06,500 --> 01:28:09,900
farrier brothers.
And, you know, some studs, Aaron
1455
01:28:09,900 --> 01:28:14,500
Brooks, you know, UVA was
raining Teens, we ranked 18th or
1456
01:28:14,500 --> 01:28:18,100
vice versa.
It wasn't what you see now.
1457
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:23,000
So if you have both programs
Beamer said it best in George
1458
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,200
Wells, co-signed it is enough
talent in this state for both
1459
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,700
teams to get it and win.
But both teams are not getting
1460
01:28:29,700 --> 01:28:33,800
especially to be fair UVA.
You know, UVA is the one that's
1461
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:37,000
fallen short.
The last 16 17 years, not Tech
1462
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,500
and grow and I know tech fans
are going to a smirk when I say
1463
01:28:41,500 --> 01:28:44,200
this.
I think grow got to out-of-state
1464
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,700
happy during his day.
He got coach two years and he
1465
01:28:46,700 --> 01:28:50,100
just kept going up to New York,
New Jersey, Pennsylvania because
1466
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:53,400
he was in New York Jet coach.
He didn't really look Holly upon
1467
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,900
Virginia talent and I think that
came back to bite them because
1468
01:28:56,900 --> 01:28:58,700
Tech was full of Commonwealth
guys.
1469
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,600
So I think you got to get guys
in state.
1470
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:06,000
I think Miami and Tech will
always have that rivalry because
1471
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:10,100
of what we did during my era,
and it's funny too, because
1472
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:12,400
Miami has a lot of coaching
Carousel with in there.
1473
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:17,500
Program and nobody lives off,
mystique and manufacture height,
1474
01:29:17,500 --> 01:29:21,900
and history lessons more than
the Hurricanes of Miami between
1475
01:29:21,900 --> 01:29:24,900
Michael Irvin and Warren Sapp.
We get more history lessons
1476
01:29:24,900 --> 01:29:27,900
about the you, but less
productivity on the field.
1477
01:29:27,900 --> 01:29:29,500
So it doesn't match up.
It's more.
1478
01:29:29,500 --> 01:29:31,900
So let me look at this 3430.
So I can get what you're talking
1479
01:29:31,900 --> 01:29:36,000
about because you guys are the
king of underachieving, you
1480
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,400
know.
Soda reality is, as I mean, is
1481
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,400
constantly going to be a robbery
or Tech because they're too.
1482
01:29:42,500 --> 01:29:45,100
Two Biggie's foes and they gave
you great.
1483
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:50,000
I mean, if you, if you still
have the ESPN classic channel to
1484
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:54,600
this day, I get, hey, you're on
or even ESPNU, they always show
1485
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,500
tons of tech UV.
I mean, Miami rivalry games from
1486
01:29:58,500 --> 01:29:59,700
the 90s.
Hey Stephen!
1487
01:30:01,300 --> 01:30:06,700
Yeah they do basic network was
in those nannies, games act like
1488
01:30:06,700 --> 01:30:12,400
in the summer last year.
Yeah, and obviously, yeah.
1489
01:30:12,500 --> 01:30:18,100
But the UVA one, you need UVA to
get better or like to push tag
1490
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,300
but at the same time, it's a
fine line.
1491
01:30:21,300 --> 01:30:23,800
You don't want them to become
better because it can hurt you.
1492
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:28,100
So it's kind of like how you VA
helped us get into the ACC.
1493
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:32,600
You know, you kind of want both
programs there.
1494
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:37,800
So I'm a Virginian, you know, I
I love the Richmond area.
1495
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,500
I love Southwest Virginia, I
love Northern Virginia and I
1496
01:30:40,508 --> 01:30:45,200
love obviously.
My home 757 and I like, you
1497
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,900
know, I mean look you guys fall.
We follow each other on Twitter
1498
01:30:49,300 --> 01:30:53,900
at the end of the day, look how
great that you VA Virginia Tech
1499
01:30:53,900 --> 01:30:58,800
basketball robbery is right now,
and how it's been the last five
1500
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:03,200
years with buzz and Bennett.
And now, young and Bennett who
1501
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:06,500
love and respect each other and
look what they're doing for both
1502
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:10,200
programs and it's great,
basketball and damn, right?
1503
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,300
It looks good.
Seeing you be in Tech, the top
1504
01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:16,800
of The ACC, I like that.
I want, what Carolina Duke had?
1505
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,800
I'm tired of it.
Why would, why can't we have
1506
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,800
that for the coastal?
You know, I mean, yy-you can't
1507
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:27,000
be afraid of competition, you
know?
1508
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:31,700
I mean, it's cool to brag about
the streak and look at the
1509
01:31:31,700 --> 01:31:35,400
little means, and Mike and Lundy
and crying with Jordan face and
1510
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,100
I am.
Okay, yeah, it's fun.
1511
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,200
But you really you really are
you really bragging, you know,
1512
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:47,400
when You have a Midfield
altercation between 25 and 16s
1513
01:31:47,700 --> 01:31:50,600
and microbrew has leader.
Come back to Bucky Hodges.
1514
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,700
I was in the stadium.
It was a great win but I left
1515
01:31:53,700 --> 01:31:55,900
after, you know, the Smoke
Clears and you happy you beat
1516
01:31:55,900 --> 01:31:59,600
your rival for the whatever Ting
time your six and six.
1517
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,700
Yep, it is 5 and 7.
So what are you really happy
1518
01:32:02,700 --> 01:32:04,600
about?
It's embarrassing.
1519
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:08,100
It's not something to brag about
because everyone outside of
1520
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:11,700
Virginia, doesn't give a damn
You know, and that's what people
1521
01:32:11,700 --> 01:32:14,300
need to remind himself of you
want to be part of something
1522
01:32:14,300 --> 01:32:17,100
bigger than just the conference
game.
1523
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,300
You know I'm saying II?
And I'm not I don't have
1524
01:32:20,300 --> 01:32:24,700
Alabama, Clemson, Alabama,
Auburn fatigue, I just, I have,
1525
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,500
I have fatigue when it comes to
being irrelevant like, you know,
1526
01:32:28,500 --> 01:32:32,400
when you wake up after a great
win on Sunday morning and you're
1527
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,400
eating your breakfast and you
you getting your fantasy
1528
01:32:35,700 --> 01:32:38,900
lineups, ready you like, okay?
Okay, let me turn the city's
1529
01:32:38,900 --> 01:32:40,000
highlights what he would say
about this.
1530
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:43,000
Tech UVA game on College, you
know game night.
1531
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,300
They just sold a score you know
buddy.
1532
01:32:45,300 --> 01:32:46,400
Nobody cares.
Yeah.
1533
01:32:46,900 --> 01:32:48,800
Body cares.
He plays a game.
1534
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,500
Here's the final score.
Yeah.
1535
01:32:50,500 --> 01:32:52,400
There LOL.
And another nude.
1536
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:56,400
Virginia Tech holds on the, a,
they'll go to the ball game.
1537
01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:00,500
That comes on Comcast on
December 19th at five, you know?
1538
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,000
I mean, that's what happens.
You know, I do, and I'm not
1539
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,600
mocking my program, I just think
sometimes we need a reality,
1540
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,700
check, what we once had and what
we need to get back to.
1541
01:33:09,700 --> 01:33:13,400
And And Beyond and, you know,
the answer your question again,
1542
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,900
I just think if it's my choice
is Virginia Tech UVA.
1543
01:33:16,900 --> 01:33:21,200
Although they what you want.
But when you consistently beat
1544
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:25,200
Miami like, we've done and we've
done it before, the brand of
1545
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,500
Miami is still relevant when you
beat Miami.
1546
01:33:27,500 --> 01:33:31,100
Still turns heads.
Yeah, you know, like we did last
1547
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,500
was it last year?
Oh yeah.
1548
01:33:34,500 --> 01:33:38,800
When we ask that the Duke de
barco and and then came down to
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01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:42,200
my Miami game.
Mm and they beat him, you know,
1550
01:33:42,300 --> 01:33:45,700
or that year went to Corey
Harris and Kirk her, she
1551
01:33:45,700 --> 01:33:49,000
declared that you as back and
tie rod and Jared Boykins beat
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01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,800
him, 31 27, you know, in the
rain game, SmackDown in the rain
1553
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:57,700
and Lain under that game follow
but to you doing in my house,
1554
01:33:57,700 --> 01:34:00,800
got a question but I'm gonna
make it to your point of the
1555
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,800
Miami game.
We had just gotten curb-stomped
1556
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,700
by Duke.
I was still the 3:30 ABC game
1557
01:34:08,300 --> 01:34:14,300
that year we were Or two and
two, just lost by 42 a bad dude
1558
01:34:14,300 --> 01:34:16,900
team.
But that game was an actual game
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01:34:16,900 --> 01:34:19,500
and I think you're right.
And I'm with you, you won't, you
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01:34:19,500 --> 01:34:22,100
VA Tech to be good but I think
you agree, right?
1561
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:23,300
Yeah.
I'm right there with you.
1562
01:34:23,300 --> 01:34:27,200
I think when UVA is good, the
program's push each other.
1563
01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:31,400
Yeah, I think that's what kind
of came out when when you were
1564
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,900
building the program at Virginia
Tech in the 90s.
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01:34:33,900 --> 01:34:38,000
And I feel like that is kind of
what helped Propel Virginia Tech
1566
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,800
to what it became and what it
was throughout the 2000's.
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01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,600
And I feel like UVA being down
and then some of the other
1568
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,700
things that have changed on the
national recruiting front, you
1569
01:34:47,700 --> 01:34:50,500
know, we just were not where we
were and I feel like getting
1570
01:34:50,500 --> 01:34:53,900
some of that back, getting some
of that competing for the same,
1571
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,300
you know, top 10 players in the
state every year.
1572
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,600
Now getting that back would be
good.
1573
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,800
You know what I sold?
Mike Vick on coming to Tech.
1574
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,700
I said, imagine if you go to
Tech and Ronald Kray goes to UVA
1575
01:35:06,700 --> 01:35:09,100
and arrival, you guys had in
high school continues.
1576
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:13,000
Oh hey.
Lucky, love that notion, of
1577
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:14,900
course.
We all know Ronald went to UNC
1578
01:35:14,900 --> 01:35:18,800
because of their basketball and
football program later, Mike Mac
1579
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,900
on, then Dean Smith left.
But, you know what?
1580
01:35:20,900 --> 01:35:27,300
Also, to your point UVA,
ultimately indirectly because of
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01:35:27,300 --> 01:35:31,900
their inconsistency with grow in
London and the streak and them
1582
01:35:31,900 --> 01:35:34,200
started losing it.
Do you know when Duke was still
1583
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,200
inferior before, you know, they
really got, you know, pretty
1584
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,800
good program.
It resulted in Virginia Tech,
1585
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:44,500
because Coming complacent.
Because you your instinct
1586
01:35:44,500 --> 01:35:49,000
robbery is almost a guaranteed
win and you're still losing
1587
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,700
recruits, but you're losing to a
higher state and but you're
1588
01:35:51,700 --> 01:35:55,600
getting pretty much you still
getting David Wilson, Logan,
1589
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:59,200
Thomas and Tyrod Taylor, so
you're okay.
1590
01:35:59,900 --> 01:36:02,500
And then, you know, it didn't
really push you, it didn't
1591
01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:07,100
because because again, Beamer
had to get guys like myself, and
1592
01:36:07,100 --> 01:36:09,900
kid knocks, and Dawn, and Toni
Morrison.
1593
01:36:09,900 --> 01:36:14,600
And all those guys that come in,
Cuz you VA had George Wells and
1594
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,800
it was, my UVA was winning
eleven games.
1595
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,600
Only have one ten win season in
the history of their program.
1596
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:23,700
But at the end of the day, they
were winning in the ACC and they
1597
01:36:23,700 --> 01:36:26,500
held it over GNX here because
the Big East was always looked
1598
01:36:26,500 --> 01:36:29,800
upon as a very good conference
but it wasn't named CeCe with
1599
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,400
their tradition, their passage
tree.
1600
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:33,900
So they had to leg up.
So Virginia Tech had to work
1601
01:36:33,900 --> 01:36:37,300
twice as hard to become relevant
and be respected.
1602
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,400
That is going to wrap up this
episode of The Boundary Corner
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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.
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I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler, buddy.
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Wednesday afternoon Wednesday
afternoon, but for special
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reasons me and you are getting
ready to head on vacation in a
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few Deuces.
Deuces.
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So finding out you're heading to
South Boston for a little bit.
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I'm heading.
I'm heading to the mountains of
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North Carolina Lake Lure.
So some well-deserved time off
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for your boys here, kick back,
relax have a few drinks, see
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some family.
You know, you know, but we were
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sitting here and it's like, what
we got.
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We need to hit one before we go
ahead.
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At least one episode it, right?
Yeah.
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Got it.
Got to give you guys a little
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taste to taste the something
before we head away.
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Otherwise it'll be a month
without an episode.
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That's just not like us.
That ain't like us at all.
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Not at all.
You don't know us.
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We try to pull one every alley
every couple weeks during the
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offseason to keep you updated.
And what you're looking
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primarily on the back, half of
the at the episode today, Is
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back in the late winter, early
spring, we had three very
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special guests on, then why
can't some 24/7 hokey Legend of
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white Vic and marketing
connoisseur?
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And I'm calling her a
connoisseur because that's what
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she is Christine and Garnett and
when Brown went back and
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listened to those.
And there were some really great
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things coming out especially
what's happened in the
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transpired months.
So in just a few minutes, we're
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going to pull out a few clips
for you guys to listen to, and
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kind of About this was five
months ago and three months ago
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and sort of what's changed with
the Hokies.
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But before we jump into that,
the Hokey recruiting run has
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been on a tear the last five
weeks.
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We getting some guys in the
boat.
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We getting some guys in the boat
real quick, but the boat went
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from mostly empty, too darn near
full, in a matter of five weeks.
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Heck yeah.
Like 10 guys in five weeks.
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Absolutely rolling.
You know, I think we are now
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officially up to 17 commits,
which is wild and we're not
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going to hit them all.
No disrespect, you know two
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guys, you know, like Bryce dukes
and Jackson like you Johnny
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Garnett mat Hoffman.
All those guys are good.
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Players Daquan right in their
own right?
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But if we did that we wouldn't
be able to do the other episode
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and trust us and Tucker Holloway
missed him as well.
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The speech.
From down in North Carolina.
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But we wanted to hit kind of
Five Guys real quick that to us
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have.
Made the biggest splash and
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we're going to start with the
highest rated current recruit
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Xavier Simmons.
Getting the 336 connection back
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going.
The 6-3, 235 athlete.
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The four-star.
Top 200 player.
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Brian.
What do you think of this guy?
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So I'll say two things here.
The big thing is, you know, he's
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the first real four star that
has been for Star when he
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committed to us in a while.
That's that's big.
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We'll talk about that second
thing where he's coming from.
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So we're talking 336, Greensboro
North Carolina.
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This is also the footprint of
the Apparently recruiting
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Aficionado Mack Brown and yet,
here we are.
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Are going down there, grabbing a
guy from Carolina, you know,
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pulling the fence back down a
little bit here.
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So I like to see that this kid
is already the size, you like to
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see in a linebacker 63 to 35.
Good athlete.
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Good tackler.
I like this a lot.
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Not just the fact that it's
Highly rated guy a highly rated
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guy in a recent Rivals backyard,
but also the fact that he can
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play some damn good football.
Absolutely, he is a top 10
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player in the state of North
Carolina.
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So that's really big, the other
pieces.
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You know, you look at, very good
commitment list and I think
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having the RT the size ready to
potentially play regardless,
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what happens is upcoming season?
You know, this is a guy you want
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on your team.
Alright.
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Now the next Guy, Brian, I don't
think anybody knew Anybody knew
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this guy before a few weeks ago
and I'll be the first to admit I
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was, I was a little bit upset
and when they pulled the offer
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and I see this kid commit and
then you looked at its tape and
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it's like that's different.
This kid isn't some unranked
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unknown guy, he just didn't get
a Junior Day.
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Malcolm Jones at a Leesburg
Georgia, the safety, six 1285.
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When Brian looked at his tape, I
think you said 86, which we were
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like.
Yeah, I was like oh wow, that's
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pretty good 2471, a step
further.
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Put them in an 88.
So, haha three-star, what are we
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getting from this guy?
Brian?
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Because it seems like he was on
board quick.
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Yeah.
I mean I think this is and we're
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to play a clip a little bit that
Evans going to talk about this.
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What's going on a lot in this
cycle is that a lot of these
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guys are under recruited because
of the everything going on with
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covid-19 getting Junior camps.
Not getting Junior tape or
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getting Junior tape late or not
playing as many games as they're
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used to.
There's a whole lot of factors
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at play here, so there's going
to be a handful of.
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I mean, we can Call them
Diamonds in the Rough.
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But that this is more of a,
because of the circumstances,
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just flat-out under recruited in
the timeframe, where most of
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these guys start getting on
programs radar, but when we bet,
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you know, you talked about being
a little upset, when we backed
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off of Sherrod, Koval once
Clemson jumped in there.
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And then you know this guy got
in the boat shortly thereafter
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that I think that is what you
saw.
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All right so we got we backed
off.
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Guy that we could still
potentially have at least made a
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run up until he committed and
maybe even after for a guy
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that's unranked.
And then all of a sudden you see
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his ranking pop up there, you're
like oh okay maybe just not
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enough Publications have given
this guy fair look, you know
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before now they finally have
since he got a an offer from
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Tech and then got when I had
committed.
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So I like him.
I mean, I think he's going to
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be, he may not be an immediate
contributor, but If Lee was a
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good pivot, if we decided we
weren't going to pursue Sherrod,
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Koval any further.
Absolutely, still hate them,
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pivoting off Koval because I
think having an estate guy like
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that.
It's giving you attention.
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They should not have pivot it
off of them.
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I think it was a bad move but
obviously months later he
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committed to Clemson.
He also called it his dream
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offer.
Let's go to the third down in
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the 75.
Kyrie moist, and 65 220 in out
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of Suffolk.
It goes back to the theme that
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started just, you know, 18
months ago.
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We're getting bigger on the
line.
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What have you seen from this
guy?
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Obviously, three star need three
recruit but Somebody Evan
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mentioned way back in February,
that commits, you know, 50 check
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it check, his offer list, he's
not light on the offer list.
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I know a lot of those offers are
coming from schools out west.
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But you know, when you get a guy
that's being recruited by
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Arizona State, you kind of take
a little bit of interest and
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say, okay, well, they see
something in him here.
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Let's give this a look and
really good frame.
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Definitely goes a long with With
what bill has been recruiting,
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since he's became the defensive
line coach at Virginia Tech 64,
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220.
So longer type player be he was
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recruited by JC and Bill, their
started definitely put their
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footprint on the type of players
that we're recruiting for the
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defensive line and showing more
height, more size in general,
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but definitely more length and I
like this, this kid, he plays he
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plays long and he plays with
good luck.
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Courage.
That's also be talking about his
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offer list.
You're talking about, you to
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mentioned Arizona State.
Also to that caught, my eye of
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through, MC3 that caught my eye.
Washington, always good
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defensively.
Indiana and Michigan stay with
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Mel Tucker.
So, maybe maybe it's one of
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those things where it's, it was
either I'm staying home, or I'm
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going Way Out West and he chose
to stay home, which is a good
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thing now, Brian, the next one
to me, As much as I love the
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Xavier and Xavier is our Crown
Jewel.
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This guy's a real crown, jewel
prashad, Pernell at a Highland
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Springs defensive lineman
six-foot-four 260 pounds.
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Another guy that was mentioned
and something that's been
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mentioned, since we started,
this thing is opening up the
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gates to the 804 and opening up
the gates to Highland Springs
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and the biggie for me and you we
set it.
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What happened with Jabari Parker
who had three or four places he
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could go play.
And taking a preferred walk-on
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was sort of the kind of a
busting of the door.
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This is big Yeah, this is big
getting back in the, the good
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graces of Highland Springs which
is probably right there with
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like the Oscar Smith.
So being the best program in the
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state, being able to get Richard
Purnell to commit.
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That that's going to be big, not
only paying dividends from him
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as a player, but down the road
as well, for getting some of
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these other talented guys that
come from that program back to
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Virginia Tech.
Especially with guys like
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obviously Lauren Johnson being
the coach there that that's
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going to pay dividends for us
down the road.
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But let's just talk about
Purnell himself, which I think
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the reason that some of the
other the bigger programs didn't
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push harder, he's kind of a
tweener think of him, kind of in
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the morel Pollard type build.
Their he's going to probably
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play a three technique for us.
He's taller though, so he's 64
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250 by the time he's Getting
significant snaps, he's probably
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going to be in that to 65 to 70
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So I mean I like him as a three
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Probably has the athleticism,
the slot outside if need be but
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I like him as a three technique
and like I said very much in the
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in the mole of a Norrell
Pollard.
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Also yeah, just getting back
here with the 84 getting back
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with Island getting back with
Lauren, it says a lot.
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It says that whatever has
changed the philosophy.
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Of the recruiting staff.
It's it's to us going in the
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right direction and and you see
Rashad Rashad doesn't seem like
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he is a quiet kid.
He seems very charismatic and he
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seemed like one of these guys
that will lead the way and be
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talking to other guys saying you
need to come in.
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Probably the favorite thing I
heard from him was and you
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probably read the quote crime
when Virginia Tech was good.
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Players went there, something
did white dick mentioned and you
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hear kid like that, it's you,
that's the mentality we want
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now, Brian the next guy.
Holy moly out of nowhere.
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We had to see if it was true or
not.
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So you see something pop up and
you're looking all around like
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is this real?
Is this guy really got an offer
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Xavier chaplain from down in
Beaufort South Carolina, six
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reported six foot, six 370, also
reports 65 340.
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Either way, he is a big
offensive.
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Lineman you looked at his take
just this morning.
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Brian, what are we getting out
of the currently unranked Xavier
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ER, We're getting a guy that is
big and can move for his
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reported height and weight.
He has good bend does a good job
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of getting off the line didn't
have a whole lot of snaps doing
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past Pro saw one and it was more
of like a sprint out.
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Type play wasn't wasn't like a
traditional spa for seven step
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drop.
So not sure how hold up in pass.
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Pro could potentially be a guard
or at?
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Cool.
You know, there's a lot of
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potential there for someone that
big that's also that athletic
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his athleticism.
Definitely popped off of the
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tape more so than probably
anything else.
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Being able to see a guy that big
with that much Bend in that much
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quickness at the snap, which is
scary.
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Now, there are the reports that
Clemson and Georgia and a few
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other big schools are
potentially.
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Look at offering him to come
camp with them, but Italy.
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And this is what you know,
people are saying happened.
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He literally got the offer
committed and went back to work
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on the farm.
I don't know if Glitz and
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glamour will be the selling
point to him.
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So yeah, I mean he might like
the idea of playing for storied
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franchises or whatever, but I
don't necessarily know if that,
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you know, that shiny object on
campus is going to be what's
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going to lure him.
Absolutely.
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So hey Xavier for listen to
this.
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Virginia Tech has a great
agriculture program, contact us.
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We'll put you in touch with a
guy named Wilkerson and he'll
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hook you up and tell you all
about it.
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All right?
Brian this the next nine days to
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me we talked about it before.
This is make or break.
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Yep, for the class Friday Ramon
Brown out of Manchester for
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star.
Top 200 guy, top 15 running back
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in the country, is going to
announces recruitment.
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Brian who you feel?
And we fighting him for, as we
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get down the stretch here.
So there was just a four star
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running back, committed to Penn
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I'm pretty sure they're kind of
out of the mix.
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It looks like the the last two
to give us a run is Maryland in
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potentially South Carolina.
I know that's going to that's
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going to hurt the ears of some
Hokies out.
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There with with Shane Beamer
being the head coach down there
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but all things seem to be
pointing to him being a hokie on
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Friday.
So we shall see how that turns
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out but I like where we're
sitting with Ramon Brown Razor,
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Ramon Raisa.
Say hello to the bad guy.
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Let's go back when we were kids.
All right.
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The other one and this would be
you always talk about this would
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probably be the Crown Jewel.
He's a top 120 player, he's a
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local guy.
He's got offers from all over
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the place Gunner.
Givens is set to commit on the
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16th, I will be back from
vacation, you will be still on
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vacation and Seems like us and
Penn State, right?
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It seems like it's a two-man
fight.
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This is two men fight and I kind
of like the home guys.
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I'm not gonna lie.
I like we're where we sit with
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Gunnar Givens.
I think we can get him in and
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I'm not even sure if he's going
to end up being an offensive
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lineman forest or a defensive
lineman for us.
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But regardless skill-wise
athleticism size, kind of brings
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all of that to the table, all
the things you want.
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From a guy that's going to play
line for.
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You played a lot of different
spots for his high school.
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He's kind of blocked some, he's
been tight in.
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I mean he plays defensive line
so there's a lot going on with
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that but just in terms of, you
know, by the top being hokey
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land, no doubt, getting getting
gunner in would be huge.
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It would definitely help
backfill on the offensive.
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Line some of the, the holes we
have looking forward your to
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next year or the year after
that.
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So I really like that get.
And it never hurts to get a high
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rated for Star guy in your boat.
Definitely helps the the
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perception which I think is half
of our recruiting problems.
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In general is just perception,
kind of shaping how the reality
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goes forward.
Absolutely.
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And the last two recruiting
classes did not help at all with
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that sort of perception and in a
lot of the stuff that we're
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going to be playing for you guys
in the next little bit here.
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It talks about perception and
things like that.
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So you know, definitely, you
know, stay listening got again,
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stuff from Evan.
The one Vic and Christina
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Garnett.
We're calling this our summer
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Supercut and we're going to lead
off here with with Evan.
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He's going to talk a little bit
about the what we just kind of
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finished up their some of the
guys that were looking at in the
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22 class and how we sit and who
we need to get into the boat for
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this to be a successful class.
Well, you know, I think, I
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think, Virginia Tech needs to
focus completely in the state of
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Virginia.
First, there's a lot of talent
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in the state of Virginia right
now.
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You know, you can look at guys
like obviously, there's Gunner
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Givens at a lord, Baba taught,
one of the top tackles in the
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country, Virginia.
Tech is definitely in the mix
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for him.
You know, you got guys, like
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George Pettaway Ramon Brown in
the state of Virginia.
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I think those guys are both at
least speaking with Virginia
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Tech and have some Of interest
in them, you know, you look at
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guys like Isaiah Montgomery out
of adult Landstown.
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He's a guy that's a moderately
ranked guy, but I think he's a
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big-time offensive tackle but,
you know, really looking at his
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his possible projection at the
next level.
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I think he's got a lot of
talent.
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You know, Bryson Jennings dad
played at Virginia Tech played
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with JC price.
I think you don't want to
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overlook that connection, he's a
four-star guy, out of Clover
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Hill, you know, Richard Purnell,
and Were one of the guys from
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Highland Springs, Kyrie moist
in.
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You can get him out of King's
Fork.
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I think Virginia Tech can
actually do really well in the
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state of Virginia next year.
I think Virginia Tech really
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should take you.
No take the 20 21 Foundation
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that they set in the state of
Virginia.
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Try to build upon that and
really try to take advantage.
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I've been up here in talent in
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roster with Virginia guys.
Virginia Tech has always been at
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their best when the Is littered
with those guys that are
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homegrown, so I think they
should continue to try and mind
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this in-state Talent.
Alright, next guys, the white
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Vic here's going to be talking
about Virginia kreutz between
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now and then, you know, as of
today we have five Virginia
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recruits of the 17 and looking
at Ramon Brown and Gunner,
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Givens, potentially coming, we
could have seven and probably a
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few more guys that are being
chased as well.
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But let's see what the white
thinks about.
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What's changed between the guys
back in his day, 20 years ago.
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And now They know more, they're
more knowledgeable and social
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media has helped with them
knowing more about other
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schools.
I got my letter from Notre Dame
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one time and I was a big Irish
fan and I Had a nortre Dame
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jacket because they know I was,
I love Tony Rice, and the
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rocket, and Bettis and Bets, and
all those different guys.
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They had taught fight, you know,
you just like and Notre Dame,
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you know, and I'm living in
Hampton Virginia and I mean, I
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wore that jacket, you know, I'm
walking around Hampton and
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Newport News looking like
size-wise With a warning.
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And I remember my dad said, you
like them, don't you?
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He was like, you know what they
located?
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I was like, nah, man.
But I'm going, you know, and he
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was like, nah, I'm in 10th or
11th grade.
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And he pulls out.
For those listening, they're
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going to laugh at our old
school, the old G's listener,
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and encyclopedia, and he blows
the dust off, and he opens it
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up, and it's like, this is a
map.
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You live here in Virginia Notre.
Dame is in Indiana and You know,
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you start back.
They do it now you get those
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media guys and the media got,
you know, you saw how they had a
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lot of Dwight VIXX, you know, a
lot of Dwight Vicks, you know,
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on their roster and long story
short, man, these guys now are
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just more knowledgeable.
They are more aware and I don't
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think especially with the dip in
wins with Virginia Tech, you
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know, eight wins.
In 75 and six it's two folds in
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the 90s we were we were not we
were the best kept secret.
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The Tidewater area was producing
tons of talent and now you see
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the benefits between all the
great players and the great
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colleges now that come down
there, you know, Virginia guys
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have been leaving on the State
Fair.
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Ever, you know, Ron Springs went
to Ohio State know, maybe no, I
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forgot where Ron Springs is.
But he's Shawn Springs.
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Dad, but he went out of state.
He went to Lafayette High
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School, Lawrence Taylor who went
to Lafayette High School from
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the Tidewater area.
Went to UNC obviously and had
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Dre blah who went to UNC and you
had drama Curry who was the only
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player to win national Gatorade
Player of the Year and all in
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football and basketball and he
The McDonald's All-American in
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basketball.
He won three state championships
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at Hampton High one, national
championship in football and one
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state championship in
basketball.
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So this notion that, oh my God,
your Junior players always
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leaving that.
Know, they've been leaving.
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The difference is the Virginia
that we know, compared to what
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we grew up in?
There's no longer the best kept
375
00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:56,400
secret, Ohio state, Alabama,
Clemson, the bigwigs.
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They stay down there.
Now, Penn State.
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They live down there.
Every now, and they were I pluck
378
00:24:01,100 --> 00:24:04,600
a player from my area now and
it's not just Tidewater it's
379
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Loudoun County.
You see a lot of those guys, go
380
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to Stanford.
The West Coast, Northern
381
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Virginia.
Kids are going out of state.
382
00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:12,700
And the other thing is, there's
some other layers to it.
383
00:24:12,700 --> 00:24:15,600
The state of Virginia has
improved dramatically.
384
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You look with LJ's doing Lauren
Johnson and Holly Springs
385
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Veronica.
The Richmond area was always
386
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,200
known for basketball but now
that's not the case anymore.
387
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There's some suburbs of
Richmond.
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The Chester Chester feels the
surrounding areas have
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Dramatically Northern Virginia,
Westfield one.
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The state's three years in a
row, used to be the tarwater
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Richmond, show, and football and
basketball.
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That is changed as well.
All that combines with,
393
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unfortunately, Virginia Tech and
UVA picked their worst times to
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fall off.
Yep, they did its best to you.
395
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,000
Yeah.
I mean, it UVA has been
396
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rebuilding for years and for
years, Tecna fit, you know, Tech
397
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benefited for years because
they're, you know, you look at
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that.
Five team, I believe their
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entire defense starters, that
were ranked number one in the
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nation or maybe that was 07-08.
But pretty much most of their
401
00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:14,400
stars were from the Commonwealth
and 2005 and 06 07. 08 Virginia
402
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,100
Tech was signing and getting
commitments from the some of the
403
00:25:17,108 --> 00:25:23,200
best players in this state.
And then when you have Allen
404
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,100
Iverson's the place, the code
versus the Ronald kiriza Tyrod,
405
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:30,400
Taylor's and all these guys.
Mike Vick they started to
406
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,100
emerge.
Cruz and become household names.
407
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,500
All of a sudden, it's a perfect
storm and what makes things bad.
408
00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:41,300
If you're Virginia Tech fan is,
you know, as the transition took
409
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:45,500
place from bheema to Fuente
people pick on Fuente that you
410
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:48,600
know the cynics and critics but
at the end of the day the last
411
00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:51,600
three or four years of being his
tenure weren't the best.
412
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,500
You had a lot of six in six
seasons.
413
00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:57,600
You had that 18 and 5 season
where they got blasted in the
414
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,800
Sun Bowl against UCLA.
Yep.
415
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,200
And It's just not a good look.
It's the worst time.
416
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,500
Consider this during that time
frame before.
417
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:11,800
If Wednesday took over, you had
a lot of guys that would have
418
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,200
kept Tech afloat in that
National brand.
419
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,900
Peace.
If they had shows Tech but Tech
420
00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:20,600
kept finishing second.
You had the Devon Forbes and
421
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,800
Ricky Slade unions.
But you also had this on hand,
422
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:31,500
Derek, naughty daily homes, and
all those guys pick Other school
423
00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:35,100
and Tech was always second.
Even your boy and went to
424
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:38,300
Florida State the tall defensive
end.
425
00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:41,400
I think His Name Escapes me,
that went to Florida State.
426
00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:47,400
Yeah, yeah.
Do your worst.
427
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,900
Mistake of his life was going on
there.
428
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:52,800
Oh, I'm sure I'm sure because
they told me he was going to win
429
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,100
number two and I'm like yo and
your body wearing Dion's number
430
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:04,500
what they saying.
But detective rain coming home,
431
00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:09,200
you know, we're number two.
No sir, you know I'm saying?
432
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,000
So like I did, you know, but I
give Florida State and Ohio,
433
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,300
State and Alabama and all the
schools Credit, you know, Dasani
434
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,300
and I was with him, people don't
realize this, his first
435
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:24,500
unofficial visit or visit to any
University.
436
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,500
He followed my wife and I on
down with his high school coach
437
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:30,600
at Virginia Tech.
I introduced I introduced him.
438
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,200
To Kam Chancellor and Tyrod
Taylor.
439
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,300
I interviewed him on cowbell,
he's radio show at the spring
440
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:38,900
game.
The same day, Chuck Clark
441
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:43,100
committed, Tim settle was that
my football camp?
442
00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:44,600
You know, I used to do football
camps.
443
00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:47,500
So I was doing a lot of high
school subject in homes as
444
00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:50,200
picture and internet with me him
and Mike he was at my Symposium.
445
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,000
I did all those guys I mentioned
were at my football camps.
446
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,500
The only one we got was Tim
settle and look what Tim said.
447
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,900
I was doing for the Virginia
Tech brand and also look what
448
00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:01,800
he's doing.
For the Washington football
449
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,800
team.
Alright, so now that Dwight Vic
450
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,300
is covered kind of the
perception of recruits of the
451
00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:11,500
program.
We're going to let Evan Watkins
452
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:15,200
go into a little bit more about
some of the support staff.
453
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,100
Build out that Virginia Tech is
looking to do and some of the
454
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:21,000
new recruiting promotions that
have happened within the
455
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,600
on-field coaching staff.
That's why we have seen support
456
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,300
staffs grow year in and year out
to Growing exponentially every
457
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:34,500
school, you know, even your
school's like Dominion have the
458
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:37,900
moving your FCS schools.
James, Madison is building out
459
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:40,800
recruiting departments.
Everyone needs recruiting
460
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,800
departments.
Virginia Tech has a recruiting
461
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,500
department now, they need to
Beef It Up.
462
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:46,400
They need to pour some money
into it.
463
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,900
Take a lot of this pressure off
of the ten assistance, and
464
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:54,900
Justin Fuente and you know, hit
the ground, you know, hit the
465
00:28:54,900 --> 00:28:59,600
pavement hard, hit the pavement
fast and see, you know, kind of
466
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,400
see what shakes out when you
cast that really wide net then
467
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,200
you filter it out.
To your core board of recruits
468
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,900
you want and let the coaches go
out and try to Feast.
469
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:12,600
Yeah, I'm glad you brought up
tap because I mean that that's
470
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,000
what we had talked about the
same thing and really kind of
471
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,600
reiterated, what you said is
that, you know, it's a guy going
472
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,400
to a similar type role with an
NFL organization wants to win a
473
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,500
title and he doesn't have to
recruit can mean that that's a,
474
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:28,400
that's a big part of what he's
been doing day-to-day in the
475
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,800
last, you know, year plus that
now he's not even, it's not even
476
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,500
on his plane.
Or so, and let me go ahead and
477
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:38,400
piggyback off that.
So, you know, with, with Darryl
478
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,800
Tapp leaving, we got JC price.
Now, coming in and on top of
479
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,400
replacing as the code defensive
line coach.
480
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,500
He's also taking on the the
defensive recruiting coordinator
481
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:56,500
position with Adam Lichtenberg
taking over that as a, on the
482
00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:58,600
offensive side, getting a
promotion there.
483
00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:01,700
What do you think are some
advantages on the recruiting
484
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:06,500
trail with this type of roll for
these two coaches relative to
485
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:08,900
what the Hokies are, trying to
do with building that recruiting
486
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:13,300
department up as well.
So typically, you know, pre
487
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:16,800
covid you would have your
recruiting coordinators, you're
488
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,500
on the field.
Coaches with one or two would be
489
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:23,300
designated as a recruiting
coordinator, and that helps them
490
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:26,500
on the road.
You know, it doesn't necessarily
491
00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:28,800
help them when they're back in
the offices, in the War Room,
492
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200
building up the board and, and
doing all of that, that helps
493
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,600
them on the road.
You know, coordinating a lot of
494
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,100
the stuff.
But, you know, when you talk
495
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,900
about like a recruiting
director, recruiting coordinator
496
00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:44,200
essentially, right now, under
covid rules, they're kind of the
497
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,500
same thing because support staff
is allowed to contact recruits,
498
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,700
you know, over the phone on
social media, things like that,
499
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:54,600
and coaches aren't allowed to go
out on the road.
500
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,200
So there's not really that big
of a difference.
501
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,600
And to me, not really nothing.
Really is going to change, you
502
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,900
know, Adam, Tannenberg behind
the scenes has been a phenomenal
503
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:09,700
higher.
In my opinion when it comes to
504
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:14,000
recruiting he's a guy that's got
a lot of contacts and he's a guy
505
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,300
that is a tireless worker.
I mean, he's whenever I talk to,
506
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:22,200
you know, some contacts of mine
or I talk to High School coaches
507
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,400
or even talk to, you know, some
of the contacts I have it jute,
508
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,500
the Juco level.
They all talk about how
509
00:31:27,500 --> 00:31:32,200
Lichtenberg is a guy, he may not
win every recruit, but he is not
510
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,800
going to be outworked.
So and I want to, I want to make
511
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,900
sure that people understand that
that's not me saying he's gonna
512
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:41,500
go out and land every person on
his board.
513
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:45,300
Yeah, that's me saying he is
going to work as hard as humanly
514
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:48,300
possible to give her Gina Tech.
The best chance to land that
515
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:50,500
person.
Now, there might be somebody out
516
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:52,500
there that can offer more.
There might be schools, I can
517
00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:57,200
offer National Championship, you
know, possibilities road to the
518
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,200
NFL things like that, that
Virginia Tech doesn't, you know,
519
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:05,000
may not be able to offer it that
position but He's a tireless
520
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,400
tireless worker.
So we do when you're back in
521
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:11,900
Blacksburg and they're back in
the war room and they're going
522
00:32:11,900 --> 00:32:14,800
over the board, nothing really
changes for Adam.
523
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,100
Lichtenberg this is the role he
already had.
524
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,100
He was already doing it, he just
didn't have the title of it.
525
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,700
The title was kind of a pat on
the back.
526
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:26,800
Thanks for all the recruiting
help that you do.
527
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,300
Thanks for everything that
you've done for just under
528
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:32,500
Justin Fuente Resume Builder.
Here's your title.
529
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:37,600
Price, kind of the same thing,
you know, I've met JC price a
530
00:32:37,608 --> 00:32:42,200
few times when he would come to
Virginia Tech for for summer
531
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,200
camps.
When Martin, you know, when they
532
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,300
were always invite Marshall to
come in and evaluate some kids
533
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:48,700
as well?
He was always there.
534
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,600
Really, really, an energetic
guy.
535
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:57,900
My big question when they were
replacing tap was I think JC
536
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:01,700
price of great fit.
I think he's 100% the the right
537
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:05,600
guy to step into that role.
Ah, but what he want to split
538
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,400
duties, I thought that that was
going to be a hang up, you know,
539
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,400
not, everyone wants to share
duties.
540
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,400
When you get that job, you know,
at the school you went to and
541
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,500
you want to kind of be the guy,
you know, you want to be the
542
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:21,900
guy.
You don't worry want to to split
543
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:26,100
that role amongst somebody else.
So I think this was a great way
544
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,700
for Virginia Tech to entice him
and say, Hey, you might be the
545
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:32,500
assistant d-line coach, but we
want you to oversee all of our
546
00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:34,800
defensive record.
Reading, you know, and
547
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:39,800
unofficially what I had heard
was this was kind of what Justin
548
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,900
Hamilton was doing.
You know I don't even have the
549
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:47,500
title of it but Justin Hamilton
had a major say in all of the
550
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:50,500
defensive recruiting make sense
of the D coordinator should sign
551
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:52,800
off.
What this does is take a little
552
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,800
bit off of his plate and allow
him to spend a little bit more
553
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,400
time on focusing on being the
defensive coordinator.
554
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:06,600
So you know, when it comes to
You know, you know, breaking it
555
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,400
down to like the brass tacks of
it.
556
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,500
Is there going to be a major
return on investment by
557
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:14,400
labeling?
These two guys recruiting
558
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,600
coordinators offensive and
defensive, not that we will see
559
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:23,900
immediately what I do think it
does is furthers that Foundation
560
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,300
that I talked about earlier
that, you know, I think, let's
561
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:30,000
say that the recruiting
department does start to split a
562
00:34:30,007 --> 00:34:33,199
little bit into Juco High
School.
563
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,900
When and transfer portal, and
all of that.
564
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:41,400
Now, you can take that
information and you can filter
565
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,100
that into to record recruiting
coordinators.
566
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:46,699
Who can then look at it.
Yes.
567
00:34:46,699 --> 00:34:49,400
No.
And then, you know, kind of send
568
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,100
out the hounds to do the
recruiting and oversee it.
569
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,100
And then when you think, you
know, you go in that war room
570
00:34:56,100 --> 00:35:01,600
and you say, hey, we need, you
know, X number of wide receivers
571
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,700
X numbers are running backs.
Things like That you now we'll
572
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:08,600
have a little bit more buy-in
with the ten assistance.
573
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,600
Now, obviously the recruiting
stop will heavily be involved
574
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,100
there as well.
No, but I think we're just
575
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,900
looking at the foundation.
And I've mentioned this before.
576
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:22,500
I tell people all the time,
don't get bogged down with
577
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:28,100
titles in college football,
because most of the time they're
578
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:32,100
meaningless, and I don't want
that to like, to not to belittle
579
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:34,500
in either coaches, or taking
anything away from sure.
580
00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:38,100
But associate head coach
assistant head coach.
581
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,100
I mean, you have a head coach.
If he goes down, you have your
582
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:44,000
number two.
Okay, you don't need, we don't
583
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,800
need three guys with this name.
We don't need all of these.
584
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:52,400
different, you know, ins and
outs, and nuances of these names
585
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,300
that may or may not coordinate
with what you actually do as
586
00:35:56,300 --> 00:36:00,200
your job, which can then only
make it murky or when you go to
587
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,600
hire somebody, you know, you go
out to hire a director of
588
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,600
recruiting, you know, to replace
John yet.
589
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,700
See will.
But will you look at the, the
590
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:15,200
actual job duties of maybe?
What might Mark diet horn?
591
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,600
Does that might be more in line
with the director of recruiting,
592
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,400
where, then you might be looking
at a director of player
593
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,400
Personnel the higher but then
you have to do another title
594
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,000
switch, it just gets kind of
convoluted and it gets kind of
595
00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:31,300
confusing.
So I never tried to get bogged
596
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:34,300
down into the titles because I
think a lot A lot of those are
597
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:39,300
just resume builders and, you
know, reasons to give people
598
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:43,300
additional income, you know, to
give them an additional raise or
599
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:46,000
a benefit.
So I can try not to get bogged
600
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000
down on that stuff.
But I do think what we are
601
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,700
seeing right now is the early
Foundation.
602
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:54,900
It might take years, honestly,
with covid and everything and
603
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:57,200
financial issues.
But I think we're seeing the
604
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,800
foundation being laid for
Virginia Tech, splitting out
605
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,200
there, recruiting duties, and I
don't think it can hurt.
606
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,800
I think it can only help me.
And after a lot of great points
607
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,900
there from Evan, talking about
the support staff and the
608
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:13,300
recruiting stuff, take a look at
the second part, we talked about
609
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:16,200
perception.
Christina Garnett gets into The
610
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,100
Branding of Virginia Tech and
it's a really interesting take
611
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:23,500
here and she's someone that's
offered multiple times reaching
612
00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:27,300
out to the program, but
obviously, if you kind of take a
613
00:37:27,308 --> 00:37:29,400
look, what's happened.
She recorders back in April,
614
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:31,100
things have changed in the last
three months.
615
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:33,500
Like maybe they've been
listening to some of the stuff
616
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:38,700
she advised.
The other thing is that, I find
617
00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:43,700
that if you look on social and
you look at the hashtags and
618
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:47,200
where the hashtags are being
used, the hashtags, actually
619
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,100
have the best response when it's
done by the recruits and then
620
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:52,600
when it's done by the
commitments.
621
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,100
So when they're announcing and
they are aligning themselves
622
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:03,900
with this, so it it becomes a
part of the recruitment story
623
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,300
less.
So, And like the current story
624
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:12,300
of the team, if you look at them
like like for engagement wise,
625
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:16,800
if it makes more sense because
that's how their recruits are
626
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,400
identifying themselves and
there's so many questions like
627
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,600
oh, you're committing to
Virginia Tech.
628
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,800
Cool.
But what's a hokie being able to
629
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,500
have rally cry?
A hashtag dissociates with.
630
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,200
This is kind of who I am and the
hard hat.
631
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,500
Mentality feels very much in
line of what would be our
632
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:38,100
version of Lunch pail, what
would be this version?
633
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:43,300
And so, I understand where that
comes from the hard smart tough.
634
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:48,200
I don't like, just because UVA
did the same thing if like, the
635
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,200
next season and we made fun of
it.
636
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:58,500
And it was, it was three words
and I was like, yeah, it's still
637
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:01,500
a homework football card, it
doesn't.
638
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,300
And so I think the Then why the
lunch pail and Beamer ball and
639
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:11,700
Terrordome matter.
Is that their actions that back
640
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:14,500
up.
Those words, there are receipts.
641
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:19,300
Yeah, so using hashtags for hard
hat, like hard hat, mentality
642
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:22,600
and grit and hard.
Smart, Tha that doesn't really
643
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,000
carry anything.
Until there's something that
644
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,100
accompanies it.
Like, if you say Terrordome, you
645
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:32,600
don't hear Terror Dome.
You actually feel like what
646
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,700
that's like As in your mind
like, it comes with weights,
647
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:40,500
like it carries stuck with it
and that's the point of
648
00:39:40,508 --> 00:39:45,800
branding, if the some of the
best Brands, it's not the word.
649
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:49,600
It's what the, what comes with
the word, it's what weight
650
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,700
carries that think about, think
about movies or your favorite
651
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:56,700
song, or your favorite concert,
or your favorite.
652
00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:02,100
Like if you got them, if I say
McDonald's right now, You're
653
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:04,100
probably going to think about
what you're going to order.
654
00:40:04,100 --> 00:40:07,500
What's your go-to order or you
might smell the fries.
655
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,800
But you have something that
comes along with the word, it
656
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,600
might even just be the jingle,
but the word on its own doesn't
657
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,000
like it doesn't exist by itself,
it carries weight with it.
658
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,300
So the thing is is that for
Branding they need to continue
659
00:40:24,300 --> 00:40:28,200
these until they are able to
create with it.
660
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:37,200
Or they need to embrace.
What they what?
661
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:41,200
They let go.
Which was like, when you think
662
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,500
of the lunch pail, I think of
all the Times They carried it, I
663
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:47,400
think of watching them putting
like the grass.
664
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:51,000
Yes.
Like, it's not just lunch pail
665
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,300
to me.
It's like, I think a beamer ball
666
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,100
their specific plays.
Yeah.
667
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:58,800
That come into your head.
It's not the word.
668
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,900
Like that's the thing about
branding is people want to put
669
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:02,600
like a word be like this sounds
fancy.
670
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,200
Like that.
That's not the point.
671
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:08,600
It needs to evoke an emotional
response because that's what
672
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,000
care.
Aries, that's what creates
673
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,300
connection.
Another Christine has talked a
674
00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:16,800
little bit about how our
branding is perceived by folks
675
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:21,200
being recruited and by fans.
Let's let Dwight Vic talk a
676
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,700
little bit more about the
perception that this coaching
677
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:29,900
staff has amongst the fanbase
amongst recruits and how that
678
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:33,400
plays a role in the perception
of the program as a whole.
679
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,300
Absolutely listen.
If I wasn't tied with Lauren
680
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:40,500
Johnson, he's the best high
school coach the state of
681
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:46,400
Virginia, okay?
You know, I'm saying.
682
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,100
So like this guy Lauren, you get
a couple of Holland spring,
683
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,500
guys, because here's the funny
thing about a perception again,
684
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:59,100
two guys, I know Lauren Johnson
his players, uh, Greg doors and
685
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:03,400
Kevon Wallace wanted to be
Hokies, and look what they did
686
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,800
on the Collegiate level.
Just look.
687
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:10,200
I remember when I remember when
Kevon got the call from Clemson?
688
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,800
He was like, no, I want.
I want to go.
689
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:14,800
I'm all about today, trust me,
trust me.
690
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,600
I know this for the be Lauren
Johnson and I are tight.
691
00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:20,600
He dated my sister only football
player of my teammate, I let
692
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,600
date my sister that's all he's
married.
693
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,200
Now to another girl named Kim
and they had a beautiful family
694
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,300
including a son who take offered
the car stop.
695
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:33,800
Yeah.
So did the day it was he got to
696
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,300
do that like tech tech.
You got to get those guys that
697
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:42,500
want to be Hokies that maybe the
had three stars and Terminal
698
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:45,300
building, and eventually, you
create momentum and those
699
00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:47,800
pipelines.
You saw in the late 90s and
700
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,000
early 2000s.
Those pipelines from Western
701
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,800
Branch from Deep Creek, from
Phoebus, from Hampton, from
702
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,000
Bethel, you know, from Western
Branch.
703
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,500
You know, the Holly Springs the
Hopkins Brothers Macho because
704
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:05,100
they saw their older teen years
in juniors going there, and they
705
00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:08,300
say, wow, they're playing,
they're happy, I'm gonna go into
706
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,300
and then then what happens is
you're winning text already
707
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:15,100
going to kill Lit when it comes
to food lodging presentation
708
00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:17,500
because it's a beautiful campus.
That sells itself.
709
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:21,600
You don't the crowd Hokie
Nation, the loved a show.
710
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:25,100
Now, you got a formula for
success, and I think that's
711
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:27,200
that's the relationships right
now.
712
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:32,500
And I think to be fair to Fuente
and his staff, the Dead period
713
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:35,700
covid.
You know, tap who would had a
714
00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:37,900
plan who I know he did.
I talk to tap?
715
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:41,300
That's my guy.
I think they were going to be
716
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:43,600
some great.
Is done, but the Dead period has
717
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,800
killed.
Not just Tech, but a lot of
718
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,300
colleges that need to get guys
on campus versus a program, like
719
00:43:50,300 --> 00:43:52,600
Clemson in Ohio state that can
sell itself.
720
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:56,800
Yeah, but I think you get those
guys in your walk on.
721
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,500
You get these guys are even
commit or guy, like Jordan
722
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:02,900
Williams.
You get those guys and playing
723
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:05,700
well and they keep advocating
because when they go back to
724
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:08,600
that, when they go home for
Thanksgiving and Christmas break
725
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,900
and they go back home, they're
going to recruit and soda
726
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:13,200
program for you.
Because when they're walking
727
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,900
around the mall there at the
basketball court in the weight
728
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:19,000
room and you're like, that's
Jordan Williams and he's got the
729
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,300
tech tank top and shorts on
these listings.
730
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:27,000
Like, yeah, that's what happens.
Nice to go back home and I mean,
731
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,500
know me and Mike will go back
home.
732
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:32,000
Will you be at the old Coliseum
all or New Market Mall here in
733
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,100
the barbershop you walk in with
your Virginia Tech, bowl game,
734
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:38,900
sweat suit on your fitted cock
to the side, your Bullring
735
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:42,800
gleaming and your bag.
You like, yo y'all I'll get like
736
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,000
that.
Yo was an awesome people like
737
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,600
me.
It is euphoric for the fans and
738
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,500
the kids who are up next.
That's how you create the
739
00:44:52,500 --> 00:44:56,000
connection that dynasty.
That, that whole, I want to be a
740
00:44:56,008 --> 00:44:59,600
part of it.
It can't just be a coach.
741
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,500
It's got to be your perception,
your players who are currently
742
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:06,800
there, who would like, yo, like
look at Oscar Smith, another
743
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,800
pipeline, JC Coleman.
He was on my on my, on my show
744
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,100
and he talked about how He would
come back and he got a lot of
745
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:15,900
guys there.
They come to Tech from Oscar
746
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:18,700
Smith, you know.
Yeah.
747
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:20,500
Yeah.
And you know he talked about
748
00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:24,400
covid and I feel like for a
school like Virginia Tech for a
749
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,800
team like Virginia Tech that's
really trying to recapture some
750
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,700
of that momentum on the
recruiting Trail covid.
751
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:33,700
Just was like the worst possible
time because like I said,
752
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:36,800
getting kids on campus is like
it's part of the battle and
753
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,400
being able to put tax plan in
place for getting back in the
754
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,700
high schools, the way it was
done before.
755
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:45,800
Nearly all of that was something
that could have helped with that
756
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,900
perception, with that momentum
going into 21.
757
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:52,000
And now, you know, we've got a
dead period this now extended,
758
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,100
what through the end of May.
So yeah, I understand that, I
759
00:45:57,107 --> 00:46:00,800
don't.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
760
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:06,700
It's weird.
I do think though, if we can
761
00:46:06,700 --> 00:46:10,200
hopefully have this spring game,
I don't even know if that's
762
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:16,400
going to happen or some type of
showcase or something where Tech
763
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,600
and get in front of somebody
kids or vice versa.
764
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,200
So I think you're going to get
some more kids.
765
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:25,300
I just love the changes, they've
been doing in the offseason, I
766
00:46:25,308 --> 00:46:28,000
don't really get hype about a
lot of stuff in the offseason
767
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,600
because you never know.
I mean you never know with
768
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,800
attrition DUIs in eligibility
academics, you just never know.
769
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,600
I mean it's the that's what
makes it beautiful the unknown,
770
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,800
the unexpected.
That's also sometimes when makes
771
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,700
it painful and Judgmental
because the unknown we don't
772
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:47,000
know what we can build on which
is why Vegas has so much money.
773
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:52,200
But at the end of the day, I
guess I do like the higher like
774
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:54,900
the people who are in blacks
were right now.
775
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,300
Because I think you know, when
that day period is they know,
776
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:02,900
from what I know and talking to
people Pearson pray those on
777
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:04,900
that staff.
We played together for years at
778
00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:07,100
Tech.
That's my brother Justin
779
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:11,400
Hamilton's my guy.
I know they want to win and they
780
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,700
get It and they were there, they
know what it takes, but they're
781
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:17,000
handcuffed right now to some
degree with covid.
782
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,400
It's a it's it's a tough
situation and make no mistake
783
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,400
about it, you know?
I lost him close people to covid
784
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,400
and I'm sure you guys know some
stories as well.
785
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,200
And may have lost a few.
It is serious.
786
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,200
I'm not going to get political,
I don't know.
787
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,900
It's it's real.
You can feel like it's whatever
788
00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:36,200
hopes.
I know, it's real and small
789
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,400
businesses and a lot of people
have been affected and I'm just
790
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,000
praying and eventually gets
contained and we get back. some
791
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,300
normalcy because for me just you
know, football and sports
792
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:48,800
especially Virginia Tech Spring
Game, all that stuff is
793
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,400
therapeutic for me and so many
other people and hopefully you
794
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,300
know, we can get over this hump
and get back to you know,
795
00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:59,200
getting guys in that stadium and
seeing that place where I can
796
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:04,600
again, 100%.
We got to attend that first
797
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,600
spring game, the first year of
Jetson, Puentes 10 year and it
798
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,600
was great me and this guy, we
drove up, we drove back down,
799
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,000
hit all the spots.
I'm also a couple things.
800
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,500
Why jump to my next question?
You mentioned Jordan Williams, a
801
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:21,000
lot of people get on to
Wednesday like he doesn't have
802
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:24,800
personality yada yada, whatever
Jordan Williams said something.
803
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,900
When he came back, he basically
he said Tech was the runner-up.
804
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:30,900
He's like the relationship I
forged with coach for Dante, was
805
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,400
it held a lot to me?
And it was almost like a way he
806
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,900
said and when I saw the
opportunity you know Clemson's
807
00:48:38,900 --> 00:48:42,100
bringing people in and I'm
seeing less opportunity.
808
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,800
I still had the relationship
with the head coach.
809
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,700
So as you said before it matters
and the perception our head
810
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:51,500
coaches getting, maybe it's,
maybe it shouldn't be that way
811
00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:54,000
because of those words from
Jordan Williams, but you
812
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,600
mentioned tap, now he's gone to
the NFL of my 49ers, that's beat
813
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,700
him.
But man, let me tell you, Um
814
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:05,400
they brought in your teammate.
Somebody you have interviewed on
815
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,900
Victory Life JC price.
Yes sir.
816
00:49:07,900 --> 00:49:13,200
How do you feel about him coming
in and you know I'm assuming
817
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,200
he's going to probably pick up
the reins of a lot of what
818
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Darryl was going to do.
Jason price is a man's man, he's
819
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,500
your defensive line Mommy, I can
tell you right now.
820
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:26,900
Jason price is a guy you want to
play for and you know they
821
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:30,200
upgraded because tap was
energetic.
822
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:32,900
Eric knowledgeable, insightful
and was with it.
823
00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:36,700
You see the 49ers grab them so
he knows what he's doing but to
824
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:40,100
be fair he actually probably is
in that same position and
825
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:42,900
probably more knowledgeable and
experienced because he's been
826
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:47,300
coaching longer, he was on the
staff and he led the way when
827
00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:50,800
JMU gave took one of the biggest
upsets in college football
828
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,600
history, the year Tech win.
The ACC in 2010, their bike
829
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,000
riding Ryan Williams.
So at the end of the day, the
830
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,600
guy knows tank and he can coach
and you know, You don't you
831
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,800
looking you, people say oh you
know he was at a mid, you know,
832
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,200
made Marshall look you don't
make Marshall and JMU relevant
833
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,200
by not knowing the landscape of
the state and getting players
834
00:50:12,700 --> 00:50:15,000
that wanted and some should have
gone to.
835
00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:18,700
Okay God, do your homework.
When you talk about these guys
836
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:23,900
on Twitter, JC price was it was
definitely a great hire when it
837
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:26,400
comes down to it, man.
No Fuente.
838
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,100
You know we all be critical man
because it's tough out.
839
00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:33,600
On a ledger and he, you know the
time out this past year against
840
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,200
Liberty.
Oh my gosh.
841
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,800
I felt for him.
I was pissed but I was hopeful,
842
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,300
you know, I made a mistake.
Yeah.
843
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:43,800
I made mistakes as a player.
I mean, how many times?
844
00:50:44,100 --> 00:50:47,100
You know it has a llama so bad
when he got called for holding
845
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:48,600
and they gave the winning
touchdown.
846
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,100
I mean, or he'll go, Shayne
Graham, talked about that, on
847
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:54,300
my, so he missed a field goal
that would have wanted to beat
848
00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:57,200
us in Miami beat Miami, in
Miami, in the winning in
849
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,600
overtime, but he felt awful that
whole week.
850
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:01,900
At the end of the day, man, you
know.
851
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:05,500
Listen, it happens.
I think the whole personality
852
00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:09,700
thing is tough because went a,
when you, he doesn't, he doesn't
853
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:14,200
come across well on TV.
The same way dabbled as you know
854
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,900
dabble you know to sometimes can
be corny.
855
00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:20,800
That's me.
He is you know, you know, but
856
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,000
it's players love them and
they'll you know, they'll go to
857
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,700
bat for him and they fight for
him.
858
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:28,400
And he's able to convince guys
that shouldn't come back to come
859
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,100
back and pursue a national
champions.
860
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:33,500
Ship and and that and Fuente is
just got to be him.
861
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:37,200
And to be fair, you know, the
Beamer you guys saw a late in
862
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,900
his career when he was turning
his head and dab it and dancing
863
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:42,800
and dancing in the locker room
and UVA.
864
00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:48,300
But being more didn't exist.
When I was at tank, if you
865
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:57,300
remember, he looked like he
would kill somebody on the
866
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:02,500
sidelines.
Same word as JC Coleman and
867
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:05,700
Brandon Flowers and Chris Ellis.
God was not to be.
868
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:09,600
We were there when he was
building when he was on the hot
869
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,400
seat.
When he couldn't afford a laws,
870
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,300
you guys understand something.
That's what I'm saying looking
871
00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:18,100
for into now and if he stays and
keeps winning, he'll be a lot
872
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:20,500
different.
Then you got to be careful when
873
00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:24,700
you compare because Beamer
doesn't come across as man.
874
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:28,600
This guy's killing a room.
You know, that's not Beamer but
875
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,300
the same time you See him.
Now with his little dog, Frank,
876
00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:35,200
Hank, whatever, and he's walking
around, he's cracking jokes and
877
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,700
he's always been a funny guy
that would roast you on the low
878
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:40,600
and he's always been, you know,
highly respected and just
879
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,800
someone you want to be around
and he was all, he's always been
880
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,100
funny but you know, early in his
career which I was there for, it
881
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:50,700
wasn't fun and games.
You know, after big wins.
882
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:54,400
He might let's go and throw the
fist in the air and hug, guys,
883
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,500
whatever.
I mean, we beat Miami for the
884
00:52:57,500 --> 00:53:00,400
fourth year in a row, in the old
Orange Bowl went before It
885
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,100
became Pro Player Stadium or
whatever it's called now.
886
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:05,000
I don't know.
A name and Pizza Hut RS.
887
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,300
I don't know what it's called
but you know, we beat them back.
888
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:10,900
Then I remember in a locker when
I was elated and I'll hug them
889
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:12,700
and I was just like cause we
want.
890
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:15,000
He was like, Hey, great, when
you know, I was like, okay, you
891
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:20,300
know, like he went he was he was
different, you get older become
892
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:23,800
a grand dad and Shane's now, a
man and doing his, you your
893
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:27,500
looser, you know, your job
secure, you can you let your
894
00:53:27,500 --> 00:53:29,500
guard down a bit?
You know, he wasn't doing the
895
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:31,900
Nae Nae Ane.
All that do Millie WAP and all
896
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:34,800
that stuff, you know when we
would are.
897
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:40,500
So In fairness of Wednesday,
he's not going to be doing all
898
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:43,800
that right now.
He's not going to come on TV and
899
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:48,900
crack jokes because In fairness
to him everything now on Twitter
900
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:53,200
and social media is used against
them even if he slips up,
901
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,900
whether it's a timeout or he
missed says someone's name or
902
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,100
you know he's guarded about who
he's going to start.
903
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,700
You know, it's just going to be
his, everything's, you know,
904
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:04,500
we're on edge, because Hokie
Nation.
905
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:07,800
If there's a fan base, that
deserves a national championship
906
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,000
and deserves answers and
deserves wins, its Hokie Nation.
907
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,700
I mean, you look at the Red Sox
before they got over the hump
908
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:18,400
that Cubs the Cavaliers and
basketball.
909
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:21,900
Virginia Tech has suffered
Decades of.
910
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,600
We almost had them like the
dollar and that insurance
911
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,700
commercial.
We have almost had it so many
912
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:30,700
times the Matt Ryan You know, go
back to my years, the temple
913
00:54:30,700 --> 00:54:34,100
game on the goal line, we're
ranked 14th, we win that game,
914
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:38,300
we jump on the top eight, you
know, the loss against Kansas,
915
00:54:38,300 --> 00:54:41,900
you know in the Orange Bowl and
Brandon Brandon or sit out the
916
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:45,200
first half because of Team
violation, rules Tech has been
917
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:50,300
on the doorstep for years and
now with the offense of talent
918
00:54:50,300 --> 00:54:53,400
and the offensive scheme,
whether we want to admit it or
919
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,500
not, we made it up in our mind
that we're going to be in this
920
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:58,300
National Championship especially
when we come out the gate.
921
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:04,100
In 2016, and take Clemson to The
Verge and we get down there for
922
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:06,600
what they said after the game,
he's going to go for two and you
923
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,400
got Bucky and I say, afford you
like man, Clemson is Clemson and
924
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:15,300
we won the coastal in his first
year and we did it to myself
925
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:19,400
with the expectations.
So now, you know, I don't think
926
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,200
Jordan Williams is mine, you
know?
927
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,000
Ask me.
I don't think Ashley's line
928
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,500
Richard Ashby.
I don't think Pablo's.
929
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:27,100
I don't think Stan Rogers a
line.
930
00:55:27,100 --> 00:55:30,600
That's their coach.
I think he's just guarded, I
931
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,000
think he's just going to get,
you know, be who he is.
932
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,900
And I don't really care if he,
you know, didn't speak.
933
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,600
And just talk in Sign Language,
I just need wins.
934
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,800
You got to love the white and
then all this takes, obviously,
935
00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:53,200
one of our coaches just a few
days ago, got on Twitter and
936
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,600
things happened.
If you were there, you were
937
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,800
there.
But let's listen to Christine
938
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,200
again talking about more how we
are perceived on Twitter.
939
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,500
And again it's one of those
things that in the last few
940
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:08,000
months things have changed.
You're seeing different.
941
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,100
We're not seeing the time tweets
anymore.
942
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:15,400
So again maybe they've been
listening Let me ask this about
943
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,600
Twitter.
Yeah, and if you don't want to
944
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:24,800
answer it, you don't have to
give me a number grade that you
945
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,700
would give the Virginia Tech
football.
946
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:29,100
Twitter account, number great,
not letter.
947
00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:34,100
Number grade wondering 100.
It's an 80.
948
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:37,800
It's an 80 they're doing.
Okay, I'm glad that they're,
949
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:41,800
it's, it's their Twitter wears a
tie.
950
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:53,500
It's, it's to curated the copies
to clean the scheduling's to
951
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:58,000
like specific, even if it's a
brand needs, what it needs to
952
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,800
feel like there's a fan at the
bank.
953
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,500
Okay, so I'll go back to
McDonald's because I know
954
00:57:03,500 --> 00:57:05,600
someone on their social media
team and I love what they're
955
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,400
doing.
Some of the best stuff that
956
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,600
McDonald's has been doing is
they're being incredibly
957
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,100
vulnerable and real and Talking
about customer experience like
958
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,400
one of the tweets that they did
that they did that.
959
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,200
I absolutely loved was it's
never, how are you doing social
960
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:21,500
media manager?
It's always one.
961
00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:28,200
Is McRib coming back or is are
you feeling okay you've barely
962
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,000
touched the top of your cup
because they were like you poke
963
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,600
the the top like you poke the
little bubbles.
964
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:36,200
Okay.
Another one was.
965
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:41,200
Can I get?
It feels so human and so you
966
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:48,400
want.
You want it to feel human, it
967
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,100
needs to feel like the person
who's doing the copy and who is
968
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:56,400
typing, and seeing the same,
seeing the same game that you
969
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,200
are an ass prostrated when
you're frustrated and happy when
970
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,800
you're happy and it's just it's
a lot of hashtags and it's a lot
971
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,600
of emojis and it just doesn't
feel authentic.
972
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:43,300
Okay.
And that's what it you're right.
973
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:48,500
And you just that is just such a
great analogy to what our
974
00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:51,200
Twitter is.
And and I'm going to say what I
975
00:58:51,207 --> 00:58:55,600
said a couple seconds ago.
This is a football, Twitter we
976
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,100
nice wear your tie very cordial
sport.
977
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:03,700
It's pop.
It's hitting each other, it's a
978
00:59:03,707 --> 00:59:06,500
lot.
But let's also compare it to a
979
00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:08,700
know, we've talked about Mike
young earlier but let's go.
980
00:59:08,900 --> 00:59:13,700
Here Hokies Football Twitter
account with the Hokies men's
981
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:19,500
basketball, Twitter account and
the type of Engagement that they
982
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:22,300
were getting this season and the
type of tweets that they were
983
00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:27,200
sending out and how those were
tracking with the fan base and
984
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,700
it's night and day.
And I know who runs that
985
00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:36,500
account.
And I they're younger and they
986
00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:39,100
are passionate about the team.
Mmmmm.
987
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,300
Yeah, and it reads it reads that
way.
988
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:47,400
I mean there's I also love the
fact that I love that there
989
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,000
doesn't always have to be there,
doesn't always have to be a
990
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,000
graphic, okay?
And you can be playful with
991
00:59:55,000 --> 01:00:00,600
Emoji playful with gifts.
And you can, I love that there
992
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:07,900
is it just feels like I can tell
a fan is running the basketball
993
01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:11,500
account.
It feels like they're watching
994
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:13,300
the game with us.
Yep.
995
01:00:13,700 --> 01:00:17,400
Yep.
And I am also a fan of if you
996
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,800
can do short, copy always do
short.
997
01:00:19,900 --> 01:00:24,900
It's so much easier.
Like it's the shorter.
998
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,400
It is.
The more likely it is to come
999
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:33,300
across as healthy and get to the
point, the more copy there is
1000
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:36,000
the more it feels didactic and
serious.
1001
01:00:36,500 --> 01:00:38,200
Like I don't need it to be
serious.
1002
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:42,500
Like height me up like make it,
make it feel special.
1003
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:47,400
Let me, let me know what you're
doing, and then I like that,
1004
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,500
they, I like that both of them
that both accounts are starting
1005
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:53,200
to share, like, third-party
content, but I think there's
1006
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,600
opportunities to do something
really cool.
1007
01:00:55,900 --> 01:00:59,000
Like, for example, I would love
it.
1008
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:05,200
If they brought back one of
like, find an old, find an older
1009
01:01:05,500 --> 01:01:08,800
and older player, alumni who are
really good.
1010
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:15,200
Twitter who get it, have them do
a take over for the game, okay?
1011
01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:19,500
Account for the day, it'll give
it'll get flavor, it'll feel
1012
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:21,800
very different.
People who've never turned in
1013
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,700
before, will turn in to say hi.
I think, I think there's just so
1014
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:27,900
many opportunities to be able to
do that.
1015
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,300
The other thing that I think was
a missed opportunity was there
1016
01:01:31,300 --> 01:01:36,500
weren't a lot of players that
were, there were a lot of people
1017
01:01:36,500 --> 01:01:39,200
who were able to watch the game
last year and There were a
1018
01:01:39,207 --> 01:01:41,800
couple people who were able to
go and did like a few minute
1019
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,800
lives.
But what I think would have been
1020
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,900
really, really, really cool.
Is they because they ask for
1021
01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:53,400
money like can you will take
your money and you just like
1022
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,800
forgive your seat.
Yeah, yeah.
1023
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,900
What if you did a private like
what if you did a video you
1024
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:05,000
linked it and you have a camera
from one specific seat, it could
1025
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,100
be at the 50-yard line and you
just have someone recording live
1026
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,600
and you get access to that to
that feed.
1027
01:02:12,700 --> 01:02:14,900
So you get to watch the game
from that seat for the whole
1028
01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:16,500
game.
Instead of watching it on TV,
1029
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:18,900
you get to actually it's as
close as To get to feeling like
1030
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:22,400
you're in the stadium and you
pay extra for it, whatever you
1031
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,500
wanted to put for it.
But you can call it like the
1032
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:28,800
50-yard, the 50-yard seat.
Yeah, someone will be there and
1033
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,400
they'll move the cameras, the
plays are happening, but you'll
1034
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,900
get to be as close as you can to
being Lane.
1035
01:02:35,900 --> 01:02:37,900
During all of that.
I feel like that was a missed
1036
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:42,300
opportunity.
I love the metaphor about our
1037
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:43,700
Twitter.
Wearing a tie.
1038
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,500
Yeah, what about favorite
metaphors from that episode?
1039
01:02:48,500 --> 01:02:53,800
But let's pivot a little bit to
how kind of covid impacted some
1040
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:57,500
of the off, the field stuff and
some of the on the field stuff
1041
01:02:57,500 --> 01:03:02,900
from the 2020 season.
So Evan Watkins broke that down
1042
01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:05,600
in our discussion with him back
in February so we'll let him
1043
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:09,000
take off on that again here.
Like I mentioned earlier if
1044
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,400
you're outside that top 400,
guys going into the state of are
1045
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,800
going into your senior year
with, as many kids didn't get to
1046
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:20,100
play their senior senior year
with zero summer camps.
1047
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,200
I take a lot of that.
Throw it out the window.
1048
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,800
You know, if you're a five-star
five-star we all can see it.
1049
01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:30,900
But if you're if you're a mid 3
star and a high three-star,
1050
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,900
what's the difference?
If you're a low forestall, if
1051
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:38,500
you know, you're a an 87 and a
90 The difference between a 3
1052
01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:42,000
star 4 star, there's really not
that much difference.
1053
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,500
When you think when you add in
the fact that there was no camps
1054
01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:49,000
no spring workouts, and possibly
no fall.
1055
01:03:49,300 --> 01:03:52,900
So, you know, I think Virginia
Tech signed some good football
1056
01:03:52,900 --> 01:03:55,800
players in this class.
The rankings won't necessarily
1057
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,900
reflected, as well, as I think
it should.
1058
01:03:58,700 --> 01:04:03,200
But I do think they did well
adapting in this environment
1059
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,000
that was almost unable to be
planned for.
1060
01:04:07,500 --> 01:04:09,800
Let's go ahead and pick you back
straight off of that because I
1061
01:04:09,808 --> 01:04:12,000
feel like, you know, you hit
hard on like, you know, not
1062
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,100
having the lot of senior tape
for these guys not having really
1063
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:20,100
any of the Camp's.
What guys, in this class, do you
1064
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:23,100
think had the biggest potential
for that kind of offseason
1065
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:26,900
bumper that senior season bump?
If we were operating business as
1066
01:04:26,900 --> 01:04:31,000
usual?
You know, I think in in state,
1067
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,500
you know, I look at a guy like
like a Jalen strowman I think
1068
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:37,700
Jalen's strohman a very good
football player and I think he
1069
01:04:38,300 --> 01:04:42,400
was really coming into his own
as a junior, obviously he has
1070
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,200
some advantages being Greg's
little brother and and some of
1071
01:04:45,207 --> 01:04:47,200
the guys he worked out with and
trains with.
1072
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,800
He's got really good size range
and speed.
1073
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,800
I think he probably would have
been in line for one Jalen
1074
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,700
Jones.
Another thousand yard receiver
1075
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,200
in at a Richmond now didn't play
The best competition in the
1076
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,600
world.
But if you can put together
1077
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,100
back-to-back thousand yard
receiving years that's hard to
1078
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:07,100
deny.
You know, guys like that.
1079
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,800
I think Kelly Lawson probably
had the most outside.
1080
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:15,000
Yeah.
If Kelly Lawson could camp and
1081
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:20,300
had a senior year before signing
day, I would not be shocked if
1082
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:22,000
he was a four-star by some
rankings.
1083
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:24,200
I mean you look at what he's
done.
1084
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:27,500
You look at his first, you will
do the body and you think like,
1085
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,900
you know, he And play anything.
Is he?
1086
01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:31,700
The next Tremaine?
Is he the next?
1087
01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:35,600
Amari bar know, you know, we
don't really know right now, but
1088
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,100
you look at what he does in his
workouts you look at and you
1089
01:05:39,100 --> 01:05:42,400
don't think he was clocked.
Was he clocked at 20?
1090
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:46,900
Please o'clock at 26 on one of
the, one of his training videos?
1091
01:05:46,900 --> 01:05:50,300
It was, it was Unreal, how fast
he was moving on.
1092
01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:52,400
One of the, the treadmills that
clocks.
1093
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:57,000
It was it was it was it almost
the equivalent of a Caleb
1094
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,000
Farley.
And this guy, Guys got a much
1095
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:04,800
different type of body so you
know, I think he's a guy that
1096
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,500
would have probably gone up a
little bit in the rank.
1097
01:06:08,500 --> 01:06:10,300
He's, you know, guy like DJ
Harvey.
1098
01:06:10,300 --> 01:06:12,400
I think DJ Harvey probably would
have played his way up, if
1099
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:16,100
California was playing football
in the in the fall, you know.
1100
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:21,500
I think You know, one guy I
think that was held down and I
1101
01:06:21,508 --> 01:06:24,900
don't really know why because he
was super productive, but I
1102
01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:26,900
think Kenji.
Christian is somebody that also
1103
01:06:26,900 --> 01:06:32,800
was kind of a victim of rankings
where I feel like he's probably
1104
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,800
a four star talent.
I think he's a really good
1105
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,800
running back.
I think he maybe was overlooked
1106
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:41,500
a little bit because you're
coming from the state of Alabama
1107
01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:43,400
and you don't have an Auburn
offer and you don't have an
1108
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:49,000
Alabama offer LSU.
Yes, you was maybe within hours
1109
01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:52,400
of offering and before their
restrictions hit, you know, this
1110
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,900
is a guy that he's got, he's an
SEC player and you know, he
1111
01:06:56,900 --> 01:07:01,600
luckily for Virginia Tech.
He didn't get you know, those
1112
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:05,100
three SEC offers that would have
been a game-changer foreman and
1113
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:07,200
now he's he's headed to
Blacksburg.
1114
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:11,000
I think he's a guy that a lot of
people kind of Overlook, you
1115
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,400
know, I think Christian Moss is
an interesting one, you know,
1116
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,000
everybody talked about Trey
Kerby, Remember Trey Curry was
1117
01:07:18,008 --> 01:07:21,400
committed to Virginia Tech for a
little while for Star Trek.
1118
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,300
Very actually transferred to
North Cobb for his senior year,
1119
01:07:24,300 --> 01:07:26,600
they played together him, and
Christian Moss, Christian
1120
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:31,200
Moscow, better wide receiver.
Kristina Moss was was the top
1121
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:35,200
guy at North Cobb and he's a,
he's a mid three-star guy, he's
1122
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:39,100
got great size, he's got really
good range and he's just a guy
1123
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:40,500
that fell through the covid
cracks.
1124
01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:43,800
So, you know, I think when you
look at it and you go through
1125
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,800
each of these players, you know,
every year I try to look at at
1126
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,000
the commit and I think who is,
who's a reach?
1127
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,200
Who's a guy that I can look at
right now and say, I don't think
1128
01:07:54,207 --> 01:07:55,500
they're going to play in,
Virginia Tech.
1129
01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:59,500
And when you look down their
list right now, There's not a
1130
01:07:59,508 --> 01:08:02,200
lot of those guys.
There are some good ones you say
1131
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,400
there's some guys, you say might
take it might take a year or two
1132
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,600
maybe three, maybe, you know,
maybe they won't play until
1133
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,900
their upperclassmen but there's
not a whole lot.
1134
01:08:10,900 --> 01:08:14,100
You look at and you say, I don't
see it, I don't know what
1135
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:15,900
they're seeing in the sky, I
don't see it at all.
1136
01:08:16,399 --> 01:08:18,800
So, you know, I think when you
look at it that way, I think the
1137
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,200
Hokies, you know, I think they
did they did as well as I think
1138
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,800
that they probably could under
the circumstances of everything
1139
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,300
going around them covid and
potentially the hot Little
1140
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:35,100
Justin Fuente.
And you know, as much as covid
1141
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:38,100
did affect it affected the fan
base that, well obviously
1142
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:42,300
affected the Hokie club and
Christina, Garnet goes into it
1143
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:45,200
seems like the only time we were
getting things from hockey club
1144
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:49,800
was, you know, right after right
after a game, whether that be
1145
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,300
win or lose.
So she sort of gives them what
1146
01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:54,700
she'd visions and hopefully Cub
can become.
1147
01:08:54,700 --> 01:08:58,399
And again, it's great takes from
her.
1148
01:09:01,300 --> 01:09:04,600
It's the thing is that was that
like and this is gonna sound
1149
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,399
really bad for any marketers on
the, but they'll agree with me.
1150
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,899
Get in the head of your customer
and really think about the
1151
01:09:11,899 --> 01:09:14,899
customer experience.
Like, you don't need a marketing
1152
01:09:14,899 --> 01:09:17,700
class.
You need to be able to think,
1153
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:22,100
like the person you want to
Target really swim in that.
1154
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:29,200
Like you said, where are you
going to be the most height, the
1155
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:33,800
most Pro Hokies the most loose
with your wallet just before the
1156
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:35,899
start of a game that's before
the start of the game.
1157
01:09:35,899 --> 01:09:38,000
I'm excited for the leave it.
If I'm sitting at home.
1158
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:39,899
I'm excited for what I'm about
to watch.
1159
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:44,500
I'm engaged with the program as
optimistic as I'm going to be is
1160
01:09:44,500 --> 01:09:46,800
before just before that kickoff.
Yep.
1161
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,399
Regardless of what happens win
or lose the most optimistic.
1162
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:51,300
I'm probably going to be about
this game is just before
1163
01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:52,500
kickoff.
Yeah.
1164
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:55,400
That's we're going to feel the
best about the program.
1165
01:09:55,900 --> 01:09:58,600
What I can do is you can even do
it as like.
1166
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:00,500
I know that nonprofits can do
this.
1167
01:10:00,500 --> 01:10:03,400
I don't know if they'd be able
to do it, but having like a text
1168
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:08,700
campaign like text, hashtag
Hokies to five four, three, two,
1169
01:10:08,700 --> 01:10:15,800
one, and you get 20 e, send $25.
That is and I mean as we're
1170
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,800
moving forward, this whole thing
with donations, we're going to
1171
01:10:18,808 --> 01:10:23,600
need a lot more money coming in
especially relative to the what
1172
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,400
people in the ACC or doing
because we're already falling
1173
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,100
behind on that front, especially
on the individual donation side
1174
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:34,500
of things.
In terms of what we are putting
1175
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:38,400
funding wise into the program.
We're about middle of the pack
1176
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,000
in terms of total money and
we're towards like the back
1177
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,500
third.
In terms of donations.
1178
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,500
We got to figure out something
to get, get those in here and it
1179
01:10:48,500 --> 01:10:52,400
and I know winning helps.
But in lieu of that, we're going
1180
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,600
to need to figure out another
way to get more folks engaged in
1181
01:10:55,600 --> 01:11:00,000
the program, both with, you
know, putting asses in seats at
1182
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,700
game but also putting money into
the the into hope Club.
1183
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,700
Well, here's the thing, hokey
Club, when you think about
1184
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:12,300
Hockey Club, what do you what is
like your first thought drive
1185
01:11:12,300 --> 01:11:15,200
for 25, but you know what, it
should feel like.
1186
01:11:15,900 --> 01:11:19,500
The hockey club should be ran
like an ambassador program, not
1187
01:11:19,500 --> 01:11:22,000
like an entry-level donation
Point.
1188
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,500
That's what, that's what poke
Club is.
1189
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:28,100
It's, it's here's your entry to
becoming a donor to Virginia
1190
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:30,200
Tech football and that's not
what it should be.
1191
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,800
It should be an ambassador
program where everyone that gets
1192
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,100
to be a part of that is given
tools that they can share their
1193
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:40,300
fan Hood.
Here's the latest.
1194
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,400
Here's the latest graphic.
We're going to give you that you
1195
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:44,300
can share in Social before
anyone else?
1196
01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:46,300
Here's a special.
Banner that you can put for your
1197
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:49,100
Twitter and Facebook.
Here's here's a Keepsake that
1198
01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:52,900
you can have.
Here's here's here's a free
1199
01:11:52,900 --> 01:11:56,400
ticket to bring someone who's
never been to a hoagie game like
1200
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:03,500
just it shouldn't feel like now
it feels like it feels like
1201
01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:05,600
Hokey Club is the token answer
for.
1202
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,500
Do I do you support Virginia
Tech football with your money
1203
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,800
and people say yes I'm a hoagie
Club member that's it.
1204
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,300
Shouldn't feel like it's tied to
money poke Club.
1205
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:17,100
Should never feel like it's tied
to money.
1206
01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:23,300
It should feel like that's your
entry into becoming the person
1207
01:12:23,300 --> 01:12:26,800
who gets to be on the field.
The person who gets to help the
1208
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,500
person who gets to weave
themselves into the history of
1209
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:33,700
Virginia Tech.
It should feel like that is how
1210
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,000
you enter the community.
It should feel emotional, it
1211
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,000
shouldn't be tied to money.
Should be tied to emotion.
1212
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:46,400
Like what I would love to say
honestly as soon as things are
1213
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,600
open and as soon as It's a for
us all to congregate.
1214
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,300
I would love for there to be a
field day at Lane.
1215
01:12:53,300 --> 01:12:55,200
So y'all go.
Yep that'd be really cool.
1216
01:12:55,300 --> 01:12:59,800
Just be in that Stadium again.
You can have layers, you can
1217
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:04,400
have past players, you can have
the staff but it literally is
1218
01:13:04,500 --> 01:13:10,500
like the whole point.
The whole point is you go and
1219
01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:13,200
you get to stay in on the field
and you get to meet some of your
1220
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:16,200
favorite players and you get to
hang out and hug your friends
1221
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,300
that you would normally use
Haven't seen in months but used
1222
01:13:19,300 --> 01:13:23,900
to tailgate with all the time
just do like a fifty dollar, a
1223
01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:28,800
ticket field day and you get to
go and you get to hang out and
1224
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,300
you get to hug your hokey
friends.
1225
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,900
And what I like about what she
said there is that we're
1226
01:13:35,900 --> 01:13:39,700
starting to see a little bit
more of that come into play.
1227
01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:44,900
As some of, you know, you know,
we've been pushing some of the
1228
01:13:44,900 --> 01:13:50,500
Hokey Club Ambassador elements
into our sign off here, where
1229
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:53,900
we're encouraging you to join
the Hokie Club.
1230
01:13:53,900 --> 01:13:57,300
Let's reach for excellence and
Achieve those goals at the same
1231
01:13:57,300 --> 01:14:00,400
time.
Let's get another take here from
1232
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:03,500
Evan Watkins on it.
Another issue that's going to I
1233
01:14:03,500 --> 01:14:06,200
think rear its head here very
soon and we're already starting
1234
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:10,000
to see some of it but it's the
scholarship issue that resulted
1235
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:14,100
from the essentially 2020 being
a free year for everyone.
1236
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:20,600
So he breaks down, not just that
what we're looking at, starting
1237
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,200
this year, but that going into
next year is going to be really
1238
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:29,700
when this issue starts to be a
problem because of those
1239
01:14:29,700 --> 01:14:31,000
numbers.
And because of having to get
1240
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,300
back to B5.
Yeah, you know and here I could
1241
01:14:34,300 --> 01:14:37,200
throw a couple numbers out at
you because it's 24/7.
1242
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,500
Sports ran out really good
article on this recently that
1243
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:44,000
FBS college.
Football teams signed more than
1244
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,800
400 fewer recruits to
Scholarships in 2021 that they
1245
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:55,200
did for 2020 and 2019, holy cow.
So that that is fairly
1246
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:56,600
eye-opening.
I would say.
1247
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:02,900
Now 2022, might be worse and
that That's, you know, that's
1248
01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:05,600
where things can start to get a
little scary but we'll start,
1249
01:15:05,700 --> 01:15:10,000
we'll start with 2021.
So when you're in 2021 when
1250
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:15,400
you're, you know, when you're
trying to to recruit 21:8 covid
1251
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:20,600
hits.
You are, if you are not one of
1252
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:24,000
the top will estimate will round
to 400.
1253
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,600
If you are not one of the top
400 players in this in the
1254
01:15:26,608 --> 01:15:32,100
country, your rankings may not
matter, kind of at all, to be
1255
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:36,300
honest, because the big ranking
periods for you outside.
1256
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:39,600
That top 400 would be junior
film.
1257
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:45,200
Eval spring workouts, summer
camps senior season.
1258
01:15:46,700 --> 01:15:50,200
Now you pick players in the
state of Virginia, they had to,
1259
01:15:50,300 --> 01:15:52,300
they had, they had their junior
season.
1260
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,100
There's no Spring football, no
spring workouts, at all, you
1261
01:15:57,100 --> 01:16:02,100
have no summer camps at all.
You have no senior season.
1262
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:07,200
Before signing day three out of
the four ranking opportunities.
1263
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:13,300
You had are gone.
Now, that also means three out
1264
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:16,000
of the four, major scholarship
opportunities.
1265
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:24,400
You had are now gone as well.
So you you not only you not only
1266
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:28,900
could be somebody that all
through the cracks, you are also
1267
01:16:28,900 --> 01:16:34,200
somebody that even if a school
takes a chance on you, That
1268
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:39,400
school is taking a major Risk by
offering you a scholarship.
1269
01:16:39,700 --> 01:16:42,800
If you haven't played football
in a year, they haven't seen
1270
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:47,800
you, they haven't see you on
campus to see, are you really 64
1271
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,800
or are you 61?
Are you really 220 pounds?
1272
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:56,000
Are you really 180 pounds?
You know, they can't get you out
1273
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:00,200
of Camp to say, you say you ran
a 44 and we clocked you at a 49.
1274
01:17:00,900 --> 01:17:05,600
So, you're taking a major Risk
by offering those scholarships.
1275
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:10,300
Now, on top of that, what you
have to balance out and a lot of
1276
01:17:10,300 --> 01:17:12,600
college coaches did balance this
out.
1277
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:19,100
Is, do we take that risk on a
borderline recruit?
1278
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:22,200
We're not talking the five-star,
we're talking the the mid
1279
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:26,100
three-star guy that may or may
not pan out, or do we hit the
1280
01:17:26,100 --> 01:17:30,500
transfer portal because the
transfer portal has, you know, A
1281
01:17:30,508 --> 01:17:34,700
lot of talent in it of guys who
have verified Heights and
1282
01:17:34,700 --> 01:17:39,400
weights have verified game game
film for most of them, or at
1283
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:44,000
least college, practice film,
and these are guys that won't
1284
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,900
tie up a scholarship for five
years.
1285
01:17:45,900 --> 01:17:49,000
If they don't pan out, these are
guys that you could tie the
1286
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:53,700
scholarship for 1 to 3 years.
And then when all of this maybe
1287
01:17:53,700 --> 01:17:57,400
starts to normalize, then you go
back and you recruit back, fill
1288
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:02,600
that position, you back recruit
that number. so you know, when
1289
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:06,300
you when you look at it through
that way, if you are not a top
1290
01:18:06,300 --> 01:18:12,400
of the board guy for most
schools, You run the risk, ran
1291
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,700
the risk of not having an
opportunity to play at the
1292
01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:16,800
level, you want to play at.
You may have to drop down a
1293
01:18:16,808 --> 01:18:21,200
level, or you maybe didn't get a
chance to to sign with anybody
1294
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,500
yet.
Because even when you think of
1295
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:29,200
dropping down a level, some of
those schools, you know, Texas
1296
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:32,100
state is a great example.
I know they're not Regional to
1297
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:36,600
us but they're a great example
that they looked at this year
1298
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:41,200
and said you know they kind of
just said screw it You know, 0,
1299
01:18:41,300 --> 01:18:46,100
we can get another weekly zero.
They took zero high school kids
1300
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:48,200
and only recruited the transfer
portal.
1301
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,800
But you know what that does also
for them?
1302
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,400
That that some people may not
even think of when they hear
1303
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,200
that, think that's ridiculous.
But what they did is they just
1304
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:01,500
postponed a year because you
know what we're looking at now,
1305
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,900
you know, looking at that with
2021 covid aside, you know,
1306
01:19:05,900 --> 01:19:10,900
let's say covid ends today and
life goes by back normal and the
1307
01:19:10,900 --> 01:19:14,100
Dead period ends and everything.
Cool, everything's good.
1308
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:20,600
The NCAA extended scholarship
limits for the 2021 season for
1309
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,800
players to hold over you know
seniors get a chance to play
1310
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,500
again down to freshman getting
their freshman year back.
1311
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,300
Okay, that's great.
So we extend that out, you know,
1312
01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:33,600
theoretically you could have 25
senior scholarship seniors.
1313
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,400
Most people, don't you,
theoretically could see what
1314
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:42,700
that gives, you 110 scholarships
theoretically for 24 this year.
1315
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:49,200
But after this year, you have to
be an 85 scholarship starting
1316
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,900
next year.
How do you get there?
1317
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,200
You know, I talked to I talked
to one of our talk to one of our
1318
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,100
guys, in the industry today.
You know, one of our national
1319
01:20:00,100 --> 01:20:03,300
guys were 24/7 Sports and he I
told him I said, you know, I
1320
01:20:03,308 --> 01:20:07,200
think it's crazy.
The NCAA needs to do something,
1321
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,100
you know, in my opinion they
need to extend it not as far,
1322
01:20:10,700 --> 01:20:15,300
but extended a little bit and I
was like, Virginia Tech for
1323
01:20:15,300 --> 01:20:18,800
example, you know, I ran an
article two weeks ago, Virginia
1324
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,600
Tech has roughly eight
scholarships open right now for
1325
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:25,900
2022.
Now, that will obviously expand.
1326
01:20:25,900 --> 01:20:30,500
We all know that, that eight is
going to grow 1517, maybe even
1327
01:20:30,500 --> 01:20:33,300
up to 20 with attrition and
transfer portal and things like
1328
01:20:33,300 --> 01:20:38,800
that.
But just Today about 8 and he
1329
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,800
said, there are teams out there
right now that are - there are
1330
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,600
teams out there right now that
have to lose players on
1331
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,900
Scholarship today to sign anyone
in 2022.
1332
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:55,700
So you know, when we look at
this and we say, oh they signed
1333
01:20:55,700 --> 01:21:01,900
400 less people this year in
2021 due to covid and that's
1334
01:21:01,900 --> 01:21:06,200
terrible.
I could see it exponentially
1335
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:10,500
larger in 2022 because College
college programs don't have the
1336
01:21:10,508 --> 01:21:14,100
space.
Yeah, so what one of two things
1337
01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:16,100
will have to happen.
You are going to have to see
1338
01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:20,500
massive attrition and nobody
likes to talk about attrition
1339
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:23,500
attrition isn't always bad
players entering.
1340
01:21:23,500 --> 01:21:27,300
The portal is not always bad.
I think, you know, Virginia Tech
1341
01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:30,800
fans in particular especially
what has happened over the last
1342
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:34,400
few years and some of the guys
leaving think people leaving the
1343
01:21:34,407 --> 01:21:38,200
transport transfer portal is a
major problem, but you have to
1344
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,500
look at it, multiple ways, some
people leave the transfer portal
1345
01:21:41,500 --> 01:21:44,800
because they're unhappy some
people leave the transfer portal
1346
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,800
because they want more playing
time or better opportunity, some
1347
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:50,800
people leave the transfer
portal, early Levi, the transfer
1348
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,000
portal.
I was just simply because of
1349
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,800
academics or an off the field
issue.
1350
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,700
Some people will leave to be
closer to home some people.
1351
01:22:00,700 --> 01:22:04,700
Decide, nobody really wants to
talk about, are asked to leave
1352
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:07,400
the that.
Don't mean people act like that,
1353
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,500
don't happen, that happens.
People are asked to leave your
1354
01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:12,600
scholarship, may not be
retained.
1355
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:16,300
If it is retained, you may not
see the field, you may not play.
1356
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,600
It may be worth it for you to
find an opportunity elsewhere
1357
01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:23,400
and you know, a lot of That that
happens everywhere.
1358
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,400
Now you're going to add it on
top of that, moving forward, the
1359
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,300
scholarship number crunch that
every school is dealing with.
1360
01:22:31,700 --> 01:22:33,300
We have to free up space,
somehow?
1361
01:22:33,700 --> 01:22:37,500
Yeah, you're going to deal with
the money of it, you know, I
1362
01:22:37,500 --> 01:22:41,600
heard, you know, every what does
it every 10?
1363
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,900
Scholarships, every 10
scholarships is roughly a
1364
01:22:44,900 --> 01:22:48,300
million dollars.
So, you know, if you're carrying
1365
01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:50,900
over a lot of scholarships,
you're carrying over a lot of
1366
01:22:50,900 --> 01:22:54,500
money.
So some schools are saying, hey,
1367
01:22:54,500 --> 01:22:58,000
we know, the NCAA said you can
carry over and go over 85 this
1368
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,400
year, but we can't afford it, so
we're not doing it.
1369
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,700
So You know, some of those
players may have to find other
1370
01:23:03,700 --> 01:23:08,800
homes and then we're going to
add the the Colossal mess that I
1371
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,900
foresee coming of players
entering the transfer portal
1372
01:23:11,900 --> 01:23:16,700
because we were at 2021 signee.
We never saw the coach's face to
1373
01:23:16,700 --> 01:23:19,200
face.
We never step foot on campus,
1374
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,600
before we signed.
And we hate it here.
1375
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,800
We're in a bad situation.
We're going to see that become
1376
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,800
very apparent and I think it'll
be very apparent, very quickly.
1377
01:23:30,500 --> 01:23:32,900
I wouldn't be As you see a lot
of freshmen all over the
1378
01:23:32,900 --> 01:23:35,500
country, start to enter the
portal after getting on campus
1379
01:23:35,500 --> 01:23:36,600
and being there for a few
months.
1380
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,400
And realizing, you know, maybe
what I was sold in recruiting
1381
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:46,000
isn't reality, you know.
Maybe, you know, I thought I was
1382
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:50,000
coming into this, you know,
great opportunity.
1383
01:23:50,700 --> 01:23:53,200
You know, I thought maybe I was
going to be a guy that had a
1384
01:23:53,208 --> 01:23:56,000
shot at early playing time to
find out that I'm fourth team on
1385
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,800
the depth chart.
When I get here, maybe I'm a guy
1386
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:04,500
who never realized And how small
this campus is, or how big this
1387
01:24:04,500 --> 01:24:07,200
campus is, or how far away from
home.
1388
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:11,000
It is, you know, what do I do?
They, you know, and I have to
1389
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,400
live on campus for a year and
they tell me, I can't have a car
1390
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:15,800
and how do I, you know, how do I
do it?
1391
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:20,500
The typical College, you know,
things and you have to learn and
1392
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:25,200
adjust when you get there and I
think we're going to see that
1393
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:31,900
fairly quickly because I'm just
lie, the NCAA kind of force, the
1394
01:24:31,900 --> 01:24:37,100
hand of recruits to sign sight.
Unseen for the majority of them
1395
01:24:37,500 --> 01:24:40,200
and I think a lot of colleges
took advantage of that and said
1396
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,700
hey if you don't sign with us or
you don't commit to us, now
1397
01:24:42,900 --> 01:24:45,300
you're not going to have a spot,
you know, nobody else.
1398
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,800
No other schools may not take
you lock in your spot now and
1399
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,700
they may not be in love with the
choice that they made.
1400
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:58,800
Alright, lastly folks got into a
lot of fun and In discussing the
1401
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:04,700
rivalries that we had with, not
only for jenya Miami, but also
1402
01:25:04,700 --> 01:25:06,800
West Virginia, which is
obviously big this year because
1403
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,000
it can be the first time we
played in Morgantown and close
1404
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:12,200
to 20 years, the white getting
this.
1405
01:25:12,200 --> 01:25:17,600
You just heard the passion and
knowing the importance and much
1406
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,800
as people want to knock.
Miami's always will be an actual
1407
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,300
brain.
Like he says, we do need UVA to
1408
01:25:23,300 --> 01:25:26,500
be better and it's my opinion.
If they get a little better,
1409
01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:28,200
it's going to help out
everything but here's the
1410
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:31,300
whites.
Take on that from back in March,
1411
01:25:31,900 --> 01:25:35,800
let me ask this in and I want to
kind of phrases to, right way
1412
01:25:35,800 --> 01:25:40,400
because in when we were coming
up Miami and UVA the rivalry
1413
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:43,100
games, when those games were
played, it was a big deal.
1414
01:25:43,700 --> 01:25:47,800
It was, I mean, when you got
there 94 to roughly probably
1415
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:52,300
06-07.
Those games were Wars and me and
1416
01:25:52,300 --> 01:25:56,500
Brian been talking, like, do you
feel that whether Miami or UVA
1417
01:25:56,500 --> 01:26:00,000
or maybe a semblance of both
like those rivalry games, get
1418
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,300
back to where they were 20 years
ago?
1419
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:07,100
We're like you mentioned the
Miami game when it's a night
1420
01:26:07,100 --> 01:26:10,900
game, both teams are in the top
10 or the Commonwealth Cup game.
1421
01:26:10,900 --> 01:26:17,600
When you know like 95 when that
happened when you know, both
1422
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,800
teams have 10 wins.
And both teams are trying to get
1423
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,300
to the Sugar Bowl and both teams
ranked in the top 15.
1424
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:26,300
What do you think is more
important?
1425
01:26:26,300 --> 01:26:30,600
That helps Elevate pecs program?
Is it both or do you have a
1426
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,200
preference?
Well let me just add this real
1427
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:36,200
quick.
You forgot to mention West
1428
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:40,200
Virginia because West Virginia
was all up in that and you can
1429
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,900
make an argument as now you can
make the argument to West
1430
01:26:42,900 --> 01:26:46,100
Virginia, Virginia Tech robbery
during the 90s and the early
1431
01:26:46,100 --> 01:26:48,800
2000s before Tech jump to the
ACC and go forward.
1432
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,600
Probably better games and more
important than the Virginia Tech
1433
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:56,700
UVA robbery.
But during my era to your point
1434
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,500
that you VA Virginia Tech
robbery was epic and the Miami
1435
01:27:00,500 --> 01:27:03,300
robbery with tech for years was
epic.
1436
01:27:03,300 --> 01:27:06,100
It was it was Bloodshed, it was,
you know, Braveheart near the
1437
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:11,000
end of the movie.
It was real in order is my
1438
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:15,100
preference.
I would like oh this is going to
1439
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:19,200
make some people mad.
I like it when taking you here
1440
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:23,600
both good because I grew up in
that and it's good for the kids.
1441
01:27:23,700 --> 01:27:26,700
Great for the Commonwealth.
People look at me funny on
1442
01:27:26,700 --> 01:27:29,800
camera.
When I celebrate UVA not that
1443
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,200
they are celebrating wins but
I'm like hey that's a good one.
1444
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:37,300
That's good for us.
I mean if it's just better you
1445
01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:40,700
know Jonathan McLaughlin was
like Hey everybody post your
1446
01:27:40,700 --> 01:27:42,400
comment with you know, draining
out the cup.
1447
01:27:42,500 --> 01:27:45,800
Up and I said, oh, I lost my
last two years you were here and
1448
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,900
he couldn't even fathom that.
And I said, hey man, they were
1449
01:27:49,900 --> 01:27:51,500
really good.
Y'all beat some UV.
1450
01:27:51,500 --> 01:27:54,000
A team that couldn't be
Centerville High School on the
1451
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:58,200
road, okay?
So you don't calm down soaking
1452
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:02,700
me, you know, because my UVA
battles, we were going against,
1453
01:28:02,700 --> 01:28:06,500
you know, Dingo and Patrick
Carney and Wally Raynor and the
1454
01:28:06,500 --> 01:28:09,900
farrier brothers.
And, you know, some studs, Aaron
1455
01:28:09,900 --> 01:28:14,500
Brooks, you know, UVA was
raining Teens, we ranked 18th or
1456
01:28:14,500 --> 01:28:18,100
vice versa.
It wasn't what you see now.
1457
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:23,000
So if you have both programs
Beamer said it best in George
1458
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,200
Wells, co-signed it is enough
talent in this state for both
1459
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:29,700
teams to get it and win.
But both teams are not getting
1460
01:28:29,700 --> 01:28:33,800
especially to be fair UVA.
You know, UVA is the one that's
1461
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:37,000
fallen short.
The last 16 17 years, not Tech
1462
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,500
and grow and I know tech fans
are going to a smirk when I say
1463
01:28:41,500 --> 01:28:44,200
this.
I think grow got to out-of-state
1464
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:46,700
happy during his day.
He got coach two years and he
1465
01:28:46,700 --> 01:28:50,100
just kept going up to New York,
New Jersey, Pennsylvania because
1466
01:28:50,100 --> 01:28:53,400
he was in New York Jet coach.
He didn't really look Holly upon
1467
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,900
Virginia talent and I think that
came back to bite them because
1468
01:28:56,900 --> 01:28:58,700
Tech was full of Commonwealth
guys.
1469
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:01,600
So I think you got to get guys
in state.
1470
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:06,000
I think Miami and Tech will
always have that rivalry because
1471
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:10,100
of what we did during my era,
and it's funny too, because
1472
01:29:10,100 --> 01:29:12,400
Miami has a lot of coaching
Carousel with in there.
1473
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:17,500
Program and nobody lives off,
mystique and manufacture height,
1474
01:29:17,500 --> 01:29:21,900
and history lessons more than
the Hurricanes of Miami between
1475
01:29:21,900 --> 01:29:24,900
Michael Irvin and Warren Sapp.
We get more history lessons
1476
01:29:24,900 --> 01:29:27,900
about the you, but less
productivity on the field.
1477
01:29:27,900 --> 01:29:29,500
So it doesn't match up.
It's more.
1478
01:29:29,500 --> 01:29:31,900
So let me look at this 3430.
So I can get what you're talking
1479
01:29:31,900 --> 01:29:36,000
about because you guys are the
king of underachieving, you
1480
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,400
know.
Soda reality is, as I mean, is
1481
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,400
constantly going to be a robbery
or Tech because they're too.
1482
01:29:42,500 --> 01:29:45,100
Two Biggie's foes and they gave
you great.
1483
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:50,000
I mean, if you, if you still
have the ESPN classic channel to
1484
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:54,600
this day, I get, hey, you're on
or even ESPNU, they always show
1485
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:58,500
tons of tech UV.
I mean, Miami rivalry games from
1486
01:29:58,500 --> 01:29:59,700
the 90s.
Hey Stephen!
1487
01:30:01,300 --> 01:30:06,700
Yeah they do basic network was
in those nannies, games act like
1488
01:30:06,700 --> 01:30:12,400
in the summer last year.
Yeah, and obviously, yeah.
1489
01:30:12,500 --> 01:30:18,100
But the UVA one, you need UVA to
get better or like to push tag
1490
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:21,300
but at the same time, it's a
fine line.
1491
01:30:21,300 --> 01:30:23,800
You don't want them to become
better because it can hurt you.
1492
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:28,100
So it's kind of like how you VA
helped us get into the ACC.
1493
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:32,600
You know, you kind of want both
programs there.
1494
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:37,800
So I'm a Virginian, you know, I
I love the Richmond area.
1495
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,500
I love Southwest Virginia, I
love Northern Virginia and I
1496
01:30:40,508 --> 01:30:45,200
love obviously.
My home 757 and I like, you
1497
01:30:45,200 --> 01:30:48,900
know, I mean look you guys fall.
We follow each other on Twitter
1498
01:30:49,300 --> 01:30:53,900
at the end of the day, look how
great that you VA Virginia Tech
1499
01:30:53,900 --> 01:30:58,800
basketball robbery is right now,
and how it's been the last five
1500
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:03,200
years with buzz and Bennett.
And now, young and Bennett who
1501
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:06,500
love and respect each other and
look what they're doing for both
1502
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:10,200
programs and it's great,
basketball and damn, right?
1503
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:12,300
It looks good.
Seeing you be in Tech, the top
1504
01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:16,800
of The ACC, I like that.
I want, what Carolina Duke had?
1505
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,800
I'm tired of it.
Why would, why can't we have
1506
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,800
that for the coastal?
You know, I mean, yy-you can't
1507
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:27,000
be afraid of competition, you
know?
1508
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:31,700
I mean, it's cool to brag about
the streak and look at the
1509
01:31:31,700 --> 01:31:35,400
little means, and Mike and Lundy
and crying with Jordan face and
1510
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,100
I am.
Okay, yeah, it's fun.
1511
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:41,200
But you really you really are
you really bragging, you know,
1512
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:47,400
when You have a Midfield
altercation between 25 and 16s
1513
01:31:47,700 --> 01:31:50,600
and microbrew has leader.
Come back to Bucky Hodges.
1514
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:53,700
I was in the stadium.
It was a great win but I left
1515
01:31:53,700 --> 01:31:55,900
after, you know, the Smoke
Clears and you happy you beat
1516
01:31:55,900 --> 01:31:59,600
your rival for the whatever Ting
time your six and six.
1517
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:02,700
Yep, it is 5 and 7.
So what are you really happy
1518
01:32:02,700 --> 01:32:04,600
about?
It's embarrassing.
1519
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:08,100
It's not something to brag about
because everyone outside of
1520
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:11,700
Virginia, doesn't give a damn
You know, and that's what people
1521
01:32:11,700 --> 01:32:14,300
need to remind himself of you
want to be part of something
1522
01:32:14,300 --> 01:32:17,100
bigger than just the conference
game.
1523
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:20,300
You know I'm saying II?
And I'm not I don't have
1524
01:32:20,300 --> 01:32:24,700
Alabama, Clemson, Alabama,
Auburn fatigue, I just, I have,
1525
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,500
I have fatigue when it comes to
being irrelevant like, you know,
1526
01:32:28,500 --> 01:32:32,400
when you wake up after a great
win on Sunday morning and you're
1527
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,400
eating your breakfast and you
you getting your fantasy
1528
01:32:35,700 --> 01:32:38,900
lineups, ready you like, okay?
Okay, let me turn the city's
1529
01:32:38,900 --> 01:32:40,000
highlights what he would say
about this.
1530
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:43,000
Tech UVA game on College, you
know game night.
1531
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:45,300
They just sold a score you know
buddy.
1532
01:32:45,300 --> 01:32:46,400
Nobody cares.
Yeah.
1533
01:32:46,900 --> 01:32:48,800
Body cares.
He plays a game.
1534
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,500
Here's the final score.
Yeah.
1535
01:32:50,500 --> 01:32:52,400
There LOL.
And another nude.
1536
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:56,400
Virginia Tech holds on the, a,
they'll go to the ball game.
1537
01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:00,500
That comes on Comcast on
December 19th at five, you know?
1538
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:04,000
I mean, that's what happens.
You know, I do, and I'm not
1539
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:06,600
mocking my program, I just think
sometimes we need a reality,
1540
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,700
check, what we once had and what
we need to get back to.
1541
01:33:09,700 --> 01:33:13,400
And And Beyond and, you know,
the answer your question again,
1542
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,900
I just think if it's my choice
is Virginia Tech UVA.
1543
01:33:16,900 --> 01:33:21,200
Although they what you want.
But when you consistently beat
1544
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:25,200
Miami like, we've done and we've
done it before, the brand of
1545
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,500
Miami is still relevant when you
beat Miami.
1546
01:33:27,500 --> 01:33:31,100
Still turns heads.
Yeah, you know, like we did last
1547
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,500
was it last year?
Oh yeah.
1548
01:33:34,500 --> 01:33:38,800
When we ask that the Duke de
barco and and then came down to
1549
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:42,200
my Miami game.
Mm and they beat him, you know,
1550
01:33:42,300 --> 01:33:45,700
or that year went to Corey
Harris and Kirk her, she
1551
01:33:45,700 --> 01:33:49,000
declared that you as back and
tie rod and Jared Boykins beat
1552
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,800
him, 31 27, you know, in the
rain game, SmackDown in the rain
1553
01:33:52,800 --> 01:33:57,700
and Lain under that game follow
but to you doing in my house,
1554
01:33:57,700 --> 01:34:00,800
got a question but I'm gonna
make it to your point of the
1555
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,800
Miami game.
We had just gotten curb-stomped
1556
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,700
by Duke.
I was still the 3:30 ABC game
1557
01:34:08,300 --> 01:34:14,300
that year we were Or two and
two, just lost by 42 a bad dude
1558
01:34:14,300 --> 01:34:16,900
team.
But that game was an actual game
1559
01:34:16,900 --> 01:34:19,500
and I think you're right.
And I'm with you, you won't, you
1560
01:34:19,500 --> 01:34:22,100
VA Tech to be good but I think
you agree, right?
1561
01:34:22,100 --> 01:34:23,300
Yeah.
I'm right there with you.
1562
01:34:23,300 --> 01:34:27,200
I think when UVA is good, the
program's push each other.
1563
01:34:28,100 --> 01:34:31,400
Yeah, I think that's what kind
of came out when when you were
1564
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,900
building the program at Virginia
Tech in the 90s.
1565
01:34:33,900 --> 01:34:38,000
And I feel like that is kind of
what helped Propel Virginia Tech
1566
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,800
to what it became and what it
was throughout the 2000's.
1567
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,600
And I feel like UVA being down
and then some of the other
1568
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,700
things that have changed on the
national recruiting front, you
1569
01:34:47,700 --> 01:34:50,500
know, we just were not where we
were and I feel like getting
1570
01:34:50,500 --> 01:34:53,900
some of that back, getting some
of that competing for the same,
1571
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:57,300
you know, top 10 players in the
state every year.
1572
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,600
Now getting that back would be
good.
1573
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,800
You know what I sold?
Mike Vick on coming to Tech.
1574
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,700
I said, imagine if you go to
Tech and Ronald Kray goes to UVA
1575
01:35:06,700 --> 01:35:09,100
and arrival, you guys had in
high school continues.
1576
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:13,000
Oh hey.
Lucky, love that notion, of
1577
01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:14,900
course.
We all know Ronald went to UNC
1578
01:35:14,900 --> 01:35:18,800
because of their basketball and
football program later, Mike Mac
1579
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:20,900
on, then Dean Smith left.
But, you know what?
1580
01:35:20,900 --> 01:35:27,300
Also, to your point UVA,
ultimately indirectly because of
1581
01:35:27,300 --> 01:35:31,900
their inconsistency with grow in
London and the streak and them
1582
01:35:31,900 --> 01:35:34,200
started losing it.
Do you know when Duke was still
1583
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,200
inferior before, you know, they
really got, you know, pretty
1584
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,800
good program.
It resulted in Virginia Tech,
1585
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:44,500
because Coming complacent.
Because you your instinct
1586
01:35:44,500 --> 01:35:49,000
robbery is almost a guaranteed
win and you're still losing
1587
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,700
recruits, but you're losing to a
higher state and but you're
1588
01:35:51,700 --> 01:35:55,600
getting pretty much you still
getting David Wilson, Logan,
1589
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:59,200
Thomas and Tyrod Taylor, so
you're okay.
1590
01:35:59,900 --> 01:36:02,500
And then, you know, it didn't
really push you, it didn't
1591
01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:07,100
because because again, Beamer
had to get guys like myself, and
1592
01:36:07,100 --> 01:36:09,900
kid knocks, and Dawn, and Toni
Morrison.
1593
01:36:09,900 --> 01:36:14,600
And all those guys that come in,
Cuz you VA had George Wells and
1594
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,800
it was, my UVA was winning
eleven games.
1595
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:19,600
Only have one ten win season in
the history of their program.
1596
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:23,700
But at the end of the day, they
were winning in the ACC and they
1597
01:36:23,700 --> 01:36:26,500
held it over GNX here because
the Big East was always looked
1598
01:36:26,500 --> 01:36:29,800
upon as a very good conference
but it wasn't named CeCe with
1599
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,400
their tradition, their passage
tree.
1600
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:33,900
So they had to leg up.
So Virginia Tech had to work
1601
01:36:33,900 --> 01:36:37,300
twice as hard to become relevant
and be respected.
1602
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,400
That is going to wrap up this
episode of The Boundary Corner
1603
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:44,500
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