We're back at it this week talking a heavy recruiting summer with VTScoop247 writer and recruiting prognosticator Matej Sis. We let Matej take his victory lap on the recruitment of Keylen "Brodie" Adams, breakdown the streak of summer commitments for the Hokies, and discuss the implications proposed NIL legislation and conference realignment may have on recruiting for the Hokies in the future.

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It's been a little little time
away.

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We haven't really done a proper
live stream here in about a

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month.
How y'all been?

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Pretty good, man.
I can't complain.

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Sports keeping me busy.
Personal sports, kids sports.

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But ready for the real sports?
There we go.

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Football.
Well, as y'all both know, we

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were discussing before we hopped
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It's hot.
It ain't fun to go outside.

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It's not even fun at this point
to go to the pool anymore.

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Like, the water's lukewarm.
Like, you get out, you're

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immediately hot and dry.
It's yucky.

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So I've been staying inside,
chilling, playing video games,

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working.
I mean, obviously we've been

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doing hokey stuff too, right,
Brian?

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I mean, you know, we ain't just
been sitting on our hands and,

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you know, not doing anything.
Oh, yeah, yeah.

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I mean, we we put out a nice
little episode a couple weeks

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back.
Great space, tally, by the way.

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Great space you produced.
It all of that.

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Man, all of us, man.
That's a it's a joint effort.

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Even you crazy folks that's in
Hokie Nation Vt Twitter is, it's

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all of us.
Very true.

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Yeah man, we we we put out that
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I mean I appreciate the support
that one did some pretty good

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numbers both you know the Night
Of and then everybody kind of

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listening back and then we we
put out the episode with the

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highlights there.
So I mean, appreciate all

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everybody that really checked
that out.

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And and and kind of hanging in
there with us with a little bit

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of a new format there that we
dropped on y'all 100%.

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And while we were doing all that
and while we were being hot,

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watching kids sports, avoiding
vacations, I don't know how that

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happened to all of us this
summer.

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The boys decided to look at the
calendar in the fall and we

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circled the date and that date
is September 9th.

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All three of us going to head to
the promised land of Blacksburg,

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VA for the Purdue game.
It is an orange effect.

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I think that's no shock to
Y'all, why Tally kept pushing

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that game on us, pushing on us.
We are going to be there.

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I know me and Brian already
making plans to be in town on

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Friday afternoon into the
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Tally is still trying to put his
game plan together.

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A lot easier going from Richmond
to Roanoke than coming from

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Alabama up to Blacksburg.
Well, your boys will be there,

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so we'll definitely be putting
it out there where we're going

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to be.
Hopefully meet some of y'all,

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obviously, who are on the space,
y'all who follow every week.

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I mean, I'm looking for, man.
I haven't been since 19, so it's

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been four years for me.
It's time.

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It is time.
It's time, man.

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It's probably time last year,
but you know.

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No, the one time last year you
did you.

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Did hide to stay away last?
This is the year.

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It's not the year.
Tally still feeling.

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He still be.
Still feeling?

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I'm feeling good, man.
And it's awesome that we got to

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circle that date and all three
of us get to go down, yeah, and

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hang out and do some fun stuff.
Tickets already secured.

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We ain't playing.
Listen, I know y'all watching

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this black people when we talk
about doing stuff.

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At the end, everybody don't go.
We ain't doing that.

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We already got the tickets.
We got parking deposit period.

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I talked to a sponsor.
We already talked.

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We already talked to Jeremy at
the Main Street pharmacy.

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He's already blocking enough two
spaces off for the cars.

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We are in Blacksburg that
weekend and tonight we're going

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to be in a lot of stuff in
recruiting, talking about a

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little bit of everything and
let's bring him home.

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Mataysis 247 Sports Hokey scoop,
Big man, How are you doing

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tonight?
I'm doing great.

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I mean, I always loved chopping
it up with you guys.

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I feel like the last time we did
this, I don't know if it was

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like March or April, but you
know, a lot of stuff has come to

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fruition since then, so.
I was.

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I was just about to say he did
not give you a proper

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introduction.
You got to get a man his

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flowers.
He came on here.

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What was that?
Was that in, mate?

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It was in March.
In March, came in here in March

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and the the the teller of truth
mate sis is back to take his

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victory laps.
I put a I put an expert up the

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other day of a couple of things
that you said and guess what

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man.
You you you was right on it.

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You was right on it.
I went back and listened to it

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and I was like, I guess you do
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He does.
I was a little skeptical for a

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while.
I had.

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I had to tweet at it with some
of these started coming through.

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I was like, hey, but hey, let's
come talk about it.

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Let's go.
Talk about it.

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I guess I do know what he
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Well, Brian, let's hit it up,
man.

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Let's start it up.
Yeah, man, let's start.

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Let's let's start.
I mean we talked about it four

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months ago.
I mean he said hoagies had a

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good chance to land Keelan,
Brody, Adams.

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Let's start there.
The the the big dog here in

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Virginia.
Last Thursday it came through

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so.
What does it tell you about this

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staff landing a big time recruit
like Healing Adams?

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I mean it was sick.
I mean, you know, obviously back

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in in March we were talking
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And you know, at that point and
I was like I feel pretty good

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about this.
Like I like where Virginia Tech

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is sitting.
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these recruitments go back years
and years back to the old staff.

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Like there are people all over
Virginia scouting this guy.

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Then it becomes a national
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There are teams like Georgia
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And for Virginia Tech to go
there, this is undisputedly the

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number one guy, at least on
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You can argue Chris Cole is the
top, top guy, but you know to to

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set your sights on someone, the
number one guy, and land him,

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you know, go into these big
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It it it speaks volumes about
the staff, you know, targeting

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these guys, scouting them,
staying on them, building those

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relationships.
And you know, I was, I was

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trying to think about it and
it's like I know there is Gabe

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Williams this year and you know
this cycle has felt special for

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a variety of reasons, just other
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But you really have to go back
to like a guy like Devin Hunter

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in terms of like how big landing
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Gunnar Gibbons is obviously up
there, but you know, a playmaker

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at wide receiver that can change
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And and there are top programs
across the country targeting him

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to be their future number one
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I mean, that tells you
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there.
I mean, absolutely.

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You go through and look at his
offer list, Alabama, Auburn,

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FSU, Ohio State, Penn State.
You know, so many schools wanted

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this guy.
He chose the Hokies and the

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other big piece was Green Run.
That's 757.

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Something that we talked about
just a few months ago was we

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hadn't got anybody big from
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And lo and behold, you know, we
land Brody here and it's pretty

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sweet.
And then all of a sudden we

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start looking in March, you said
to us, you said to us on this

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very program, the Hokies could
have multiple players in the top

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ten of this class.
Didn't believe him.

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We didn't believe him.
But once again, Callie, he told

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the truth.
He told the truth, the teller of

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truth.
Because as of right now, three

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in the top 10.
Keelan Adams obviously leading

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the way there at #4 Gerard
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We've also got, you know, Chance
William from down in King

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George, so three in the top ten,
Guys like Eric Mensa, guys like

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Noah Jenkins, Josh Clark, six in
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Which of these players surprised
you the most when you like we're

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going because you you already
kind of felt, my assumption is

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you heard things about Keelan
and you were like there's a

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chance there.
But what?

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What came out of nowhere?
When you saw either the last two

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or the commitment come up to say
they did, they got him.

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Yeah, I mean, it's crazy because
like on paper, I felt like there

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was a good chance with them.
Still feel like there's a good

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chance with Chris Cole and that
would be, you know, four guys in

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the top 10.
I think the last time Virginia

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Tech had at least three people
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2017 or 2016.
I put out some tweet last week

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about that.
But you know, Keelan was

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definitely a little surprising.
You know, obviously since March,

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things have been trending in the
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I think with Gerard Johnson like
it was between.

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UVA and Virginia Tech.
So I felt good there.

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I felt like after that official
visit to UVA, Virginia Tech

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having the last chance there
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And then with Mensa, it was
interesting because in the

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beginning of at least this year,
his recruitment was kind of

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slow.
There were a bunch of teams on

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him and obviously he was very
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And then kind of later on, Ohio
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bit.
And that's when it started to

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kind of you know, so I would say
he's probably the most

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surprising one because when you
look at Virginia Tech

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historically trying to get their
number one guys at defensive

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tackle, it usually doesn't turn
out that well.

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But you know, again, it's just a
testament to the staff for being

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able to stick on these guys and
you know, whether it was Ohio

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State kind of in with 1 foot or
you know whatever, they they

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stuck on him and they made him a
priority.

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And brought him into the fold.
So I would definitely say Mensa

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was probably the most surprising
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Yeah, I mean, it kind of jumped
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I mean, all of a sudden, you
know, we hear some, some, some

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wheels start turning and as soon
as they started turning, all of

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a sudden an announcement came
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There wasn't really that kind of
that that period where it's

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like, Oh yeah, well, you know,
he's kind of, we think he's

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going to commit, he's going to
announce a date.

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It wasn't any of that.
It was like he felt it.

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And just kind of pull the
trigger.

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Yeah, definitely.
I I guess what for me, I was

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when when when Adams committed
again, this is no, not saying

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this staff is Alabama or
anything like that.

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But for me, being from Alabama,
the Brody Adams commitment kind

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of felt like the Julio Jones
commitment way, way back when.

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Because Alabama's always been
Alabama, but they weren't really

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known for, like, wide receivers
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When he committed and again, I
don't know how much that y'all

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look at Alabama recruiting and
stuff, but I think I may have

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been Nick Saban's first year,
which was like 07 and the year

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before they got like Marquis
Maze, which that's kind of the

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the receivers that we were used
to Alabama getting.

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He was a really good kid here in
Alabama, but not it wasn't like.

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We thought he was going to go to
powerhouse at that time.

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But Julio on the other hand, I
think Alabama mayor went 6-6 and

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six or something like that
Nick's first year and then Julio

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on the other hand was like
everybody wanted him.

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He's, I mean you've seen him.
He was a manchild, went to a

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school called Foley here and
Alabama was able to keep him

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home.
So.

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Again, I don't know the numbers
for sure, but their recruiting

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ranking for them was always low.
I went 14 or we're 12 or

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whatever.
That year when they got Julio,

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which was like 08, they jumped
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Next thing you know they're
playing in national championship

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or SEC championship against
Florida and stuff like that.

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The the Brody Adams commitment
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Julio.
Commitment of that time.

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So again, I I'm not comparing
the two schools, but I would

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love to see Virginia Tech
continue to momentum in the

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trajectory.
That would be wonderful.

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So winning some games this year
is the first thing we got to do.

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Absolutely, Yep.
And you know, talk about

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winning.
I mean, I think that's that's

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going to be a big part of
keeping this train rolling, I

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mean.
Yeah, you got three in the in

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the top ten, six in the top 25
right now.

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You put some wins with that it's
going to make you know some of

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the other ones that we were
close on that we were in that

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final two or final three that
that might be the thing that

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pushes them over and and kind of
gets us a couple more wins.

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So hopefully we can put some
some good, good, good games out

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there this fall and and let the
chips fall where they may start

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in 25.
Absolutely.

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So you know, we still obviously
got some big targets up on the

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board there.
We got Makai White, you get

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Chris Cole, both here in
Virginia.

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Cole, the number one player in
the state, you know, top, I

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think he's top 50 right now, 247
and composite, just an absolute

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stud all around.
And then there's, you know,

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they're talking about the hot
streak.

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They're notifying, they're
noticing these guys coming here.

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And you've got the things of
could they flip Fred Johnson

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from South Carolina?
Can they flip Rainier, who's

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here in the RVA out of
Minnesota?

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So those four prospects, mate,
how are we sitting with them so

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far?
Yeah, it's interesting.

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I mean, definitely.
I thought Makai White was gonna

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be a commit, I would say back in
June, so a month ago.

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Obviously things are a little
tricky there.

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Just when.
You start going on these

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streets, you start building up
the class and you're looking at

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guys like now you have Brody
Adams as your number one guy and

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you have Chance Wiggins coming
into the fold.

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Two of the, you know, best wide
receivers in all of Virginia and

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some of the top receivers in the
country, and now you're looking

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at the roster.
You already have a bunch of guys

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that you know you could bring
back the following year.

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It's tough with the numbers and
I know they always work out and

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you know, I've heard.
Several things, but I definitely

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think that, you know, Virginia
Tech is still very high with

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Makai White and I think you know
as a talent he's right there

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with Chance Wiggins.
I know they both play for the

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same high school team, but like,
I feel like when you have that

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type of talent, you want to
bring that in despite what the

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numbers say, like you'll always
work it out.

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But my only concern there is
simply if they're looking at

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this roster and, you know, Prize
still trying to reconstruct

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everything.
If he's just a little hesitant

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to put too many numbers in the
wide receiver room but but I

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still think you know they're
they're sitting very highly

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there.
He's still obviously I'm

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committed excuse me, moving on
to like Chris Cole.

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I mean Virginia Tech has been on
in the longest of anyone.

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He's been to Blacksburg so many
times.

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He has so many connections with
this staff and you know it's

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it's one of those things where.
You know, I'm not saying it's a

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Josh Sweat situation, but
someone that knows the school so

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well and is being courted by all
these big programs, like you

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start, you know, they have nice
toys too to play with and you

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start to wonder, okay, the
longer it goes, is he going to

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start to feed into that or is he
a guy that, you know, wants to

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resonate with this message of
being the hometown hero?

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He's seeing so many guys.
From the state of Virginia, we

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talked about it.
Three guys in the top ten.

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Does he want to be the icing on
the cake, The guy that brings

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Virginia Tech back, I think that
is resonating with him.

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I still think Virginia Tech is
in the lead.

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I don't think this recruitment's
going to end anytime soon, but I

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I still feel really good about
Chris Cole and then a guy like

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Fred Johnson again, you know,
another top ten guy.

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I can't believe we're.
Talking about this many guys in

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the top ten in Virginia, but you
know, back in, you know, I feel

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like his, his whole situation,
the South Carolina happened very

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quickly.
He got an offer, he went on a

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visit.
All of a sudden he's committed.

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I know he's very close with
Brody and I know there is a

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little bit of movement there
from South Carolina that they

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were targeting Brody with him
and I think that was part of the

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reason that.
You know, he wanted to go to

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South Carolina, kind of start
their own trend and now that

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Brody's in the boat, like I've
been hearing, you know, there's

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been a lot more smoke there.
So all to say that I would have

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shut that down a month ago, but
I think Virginia Tech is really

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pushing hard now.
And you know, I'm not, I'm not

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going to say I'm predicting a
flip or anything, but I

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definitely like where Virginia
Tech is sitting right now and

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you know that recruitment is far
from over.

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And then lastly.
Rainier, like, he's a guy that

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I, you know, I did put in an
initial crystal ball.

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I thought he was going to go to
Virginia Tech.

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Obviously, some things happened.
He ends up in Minnesota.

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You start to wonder as the cycle
continues.

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Is a guy like that from Richmond
that has a spot with Virginia

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Tech, with all these guys we're
talking about, is he going to

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want to go all the way over to
play in the Big 10, to be in

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Minnesota cold winters?
You know all the all those sorts

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of things like he likes the
message there, but he knows he

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has a spot.
So I would say he's he's the

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most likely of a flip candidate
and definitely still has a spot.

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Flip them all, get them all,
flip them all there about it.

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But it's the whole momentum
thing, right?

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Y'all it's You're seeing Brody,
you're seeing the top five guys.

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You're seeing like knowing them
from Highland Springs, You're

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seeing guys and it's, and this
is the best part, it's not 1

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area of the state, It's Richmond
kids coming, it's Nova kids

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coming, It's kids out on the
Eastern shorts, the 75

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everywhere.
It's coming and it goes back for

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years.
It's the original building.

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And I've been sitting here for
the longest time and it took

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Frank Beamer 6 years roughly to
do something like this.

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Six years.
And I know that was the 1980s

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going into the 1990s, But I
mean, Chris Cole's the top

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player.
Is this a Cornell Brown

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situation where it's not a kid
from the beach or Richmond, but

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like Cornell's Lynchburg is 45
minutes from Blacksburg.

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Is it the kid right down the
road that's the top dog in the

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state that everybody wants in
the country?

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That they say, no, I'm staying
here because we can do something

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big here like Cornell and them.
Did I?

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Think I think it could be.
I really do.

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But that's a great that's a.
Great lead into what else we got

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to talk about.
Got to talk about Gabe Williams,

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you know, Gabe Williams, Heck of
a player, heck of a player, you

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know, top 247 player.
We've been watching him on the

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seven on seven.
So he's doing his thing,

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beasting, he's starting to put,
put up workout tapes.

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I mean he's just, he's been on
the show like he's just an

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awesome kid to talk to, but he's
a hell of a recruiter as well.

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So I guess my question is.
Do you think with his commitment

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and how that happened and when
it happened that kind of

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springboarded all of the
momentum that we had going into

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the summer?
Definitely, definitely.

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I think like you know,
especially that weekend, I think

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there was 4 commitments.
Marcellus Barnes junior was a

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guy that came on an official
visit with no intention of

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committing and you know Gabe
Williams is in the building like

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I'm committed let's make this
home and he's a guy that you

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know coming from Tennessee he's
just trying to check out the

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place and then all of a sudden
he's saying you know this guy is

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legit I'm legit let's make
something happen, you know and

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ends up committing the same
weekend.

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So you know he he's definitely
the most outspoken I think you

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know we've seen you know he's
he's kind of surpassed any

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expectations I've had of you
know often times you see these

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four stars commit and you're
starting to wonder you know what

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kind of momentum is that going
to build.

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But with gave it's like it's
everywhere.

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It's all the time.
It's in your face.

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It's, you know, it's awesome,
like him going back with the,

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the defensive end from West
Virginia, like just some awesome

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stuff, you know, like.
I know part one of the things

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that I was thinking about too,
with what a lot of these kids

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are doing.
And again, I don't know

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everything about it but.
Like, NIL is your name, your

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image and your life.
It's like being on Twitter,

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being engaged with people, you
know, doing some podcasts.

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If you do this thing the right
way, man, I mean, it does matter

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what you do on the field, but
you can be a fan favorite a long

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time before you are a stat
favorite.

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So I mean to see recruits jump
in there and start recruiting

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and things like that is awesome
as a fan, but I think that you

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know their family and them like.
It can pay dividends for them as

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well, just because of the NRL
stuff.

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Yeah, building a brand, man.
He's building a brand right out

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the gate.
Yeah, he's building a brand.

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And you know what?
And he understands.

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He does the way that works, too.
So the way he was talking on

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when he's on here, what he's
been doing on drugs and media,

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what he did with.
Yeah, exactly.

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He knows.
He knows how to build a brand.

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He knows how to build a brand A.
100% And I'm looking at this kid

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and I'm just because we talked
with him one-on-one.

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I mean like the way he carried
himself.

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He's like, I'm about to turn 17.
It's like you're about to turn

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17 the way you get yourself.
I'm here if I'm him and I'm

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thinking like this because he
might play safety, right.

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That kid could name himself
Headhunter because when he gets

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done with his football career,
he's either going to be an agent

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getting every player he can
under his realm.

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But he's going to go into the
corporate world to be headhunt

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big CE O's and stuff to take
position with companies, the way

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he carries himself, the way he
sells himself.

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And it's also to see that and
you not only see him though, I

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mean look at Davi, look at look
at all of them.

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It's like they're following his
lead and it's like it's just

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something building that I don't
think we saw.

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But after a three win season
happening 100% and you know,

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Davi was kind of the 1st died to
be the face of the class and he

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was kind of doing that and you
know, in text groups and in Dms,

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but you know Gabe is the
outspoken one.

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I love that.
About the headhunter 100%.

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Like he's already a fan
favorite.

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Like guys love him.
And not only that, but like he's

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doing it not only for like the
public's reaction and you know,

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to get the momentum going, but,
you know, I never thought I

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would describe a really highly
ranked four-star guys this.

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But he's the glue guy of the
class.

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Like he's keeping everyone
motivated.

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He's getting all these guys,
like, you know, by sharing so

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much people feel closer to him
and he's making, you know, he's

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checking in with everyone so
they feel closer to the group.

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And that's why I feel like, you
know, often times when we're

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looking at these four stars and
whatever, like the first comment

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you see is, well, will this guy
stay till signing day.

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And I know that's like a
separate conversation.

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But as of now, like all these
guys are so invested into

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Virginia Tech, into the
community, staying close with

444
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,200
the coaches, and you got to give
a lot of credit to gave her, you

445
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,160
know, fostering that
environment. 100% and you know

446
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,240
let's, let's, let's talk about
the coaches for a minute because

447
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,120
you got guys crushing it.
I mean JC Price Fontell Mines.

448
00:25:15,060 --> 00:25:17,700
I feel like Chris Mark on every
big guy we've landed.

449
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:20,540
He's the secondary, I mean.
So I feel like he's going in

450
00:25:20,540 --> 00:25:23,220
there selling the defense of
what it is and letting those

451
00:25:23,220 --> 00:25:25,260
guys do it.
But let's talk about the two new

452
00:25:25,260 --> 00:25:28,460
guys that was just getting on
board the last time we talked

453
00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:31,060
here.
Elijah Brooks, Ron Crooks.

454
00:25:31,220 --> 00:25:33,900
They have absolutely hit the
ground running.

455
00:25:34,590 --> 00:25:37,750
Coach Brooks the big time.
Definitely a part in the Gabe

456
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:39,950
Williams landing.
Help them at law him and JC

457
00:25:39,950 --> 00:25:43,070
close that out and Tyler Mason
in his room itself.

458
00:25:43,390 --> 00:25:49,390
Coach Crook walks in Tommy
Ricard you know up out of Ohio.

459
00:25:49,390 --> 00:25:52,470
It's a top 50 player in Ohio.
I'm gonna tell you know how big

460
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:56,270
that state is with football.
Aiden Lynch up in Jersey, a

461
00:25:56,270 --> 00:26:00,830
borderline 4 star kid and then
Hanchuck lower guy.

462
00:26:01,230 --> 00:26:03,190
Might stay in the defensive
room, might come over to the

463
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:05,950
offensive line room.
Depends on how it falls.

464
00:26:06,430 --> 00:26:10,270
But what are y'all's view on the
ability of these two guys?

465
00:26:10,270 --> 00:26:14,430
And I mean to have this success,
I mean, if you told us a year

466
00:26:14,430 --> 00:26:17,390
from now, hey, they're pulling
guys left and right, I don't

467
00:26:17,390 --> 00:26:19,790
think we're shocked.
But it's like they walk in and

468
00:26:19,790 --> 00:26:23,510
it's like, come here, come here.
And they're getting them.

469
00:26:24,470 --> 00:26:26,590
Yeah, absolutely.
I think for you know Elijah

470
00:26:26,590 --> 00:26:29,750
Brooks, you know he's always
been kind of known as this guy

471
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:34,050
plugged in with Maryland being
the recruiter based guy like

472
00:26:34,050 --> 00:26:36,930
being able to build these
relationships and you know he's

473
00:26:36,930 --> 00:26:39,570
done a great job of kind of
leveraging that and also

474
00:26:39,570 --> 00:26:42,730
bringing it back to the staff.
Like still you have Tyler Bowen

475
00:26:42,730 --> 00:26:46,410
to who you can like bring you
know hand in hand walk into a

476
00:26:46,410 --> 00:26:50,170
high school in Maryland and you
know be on a first name basis

477
00:26:50,170 --> 00:26:53,570
right away like these guys just
they get it when it comes to

478
00:26:53,570 --> 00:26:55,970
Maryland.
And so I would say, like Brooks

479
00:26:55,970 --> 00:27:00,390
is definitely hit the
expectations set for him and has

480
00:27:00,390 --> 00:27:02,270
done a really nice job this
cycle.

481
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:06,350
Ron Crook, like to be honest
with you, I didn't know much

482
00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:09,150
about his recruiting background.
I knew he was an experienced

483
00:27:09,150 --> 00:27:10,990
guy.
You're bringing him in to be,

484
00:27:11,230 --> 00:27:14,430
you know, stepping into these
big shoes left by Joe Rudolph.

485
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:16,790
You're bringing him in to be a
guy that's, you know, very

486
00:27:16,790 --> 00:27:21,510
technical and has all this
experience at so many stops and

487
00:27:21,510 --> 00:27:25,090
playing so many different types
of schemes that he can relate to

488
00:27:25,090 --> 00:27:28,050
these kids and kind of coach
them up and build that offensive

489
00:27:28,050 --> 00:27:30,170
line.
I've been kind of shocked to

490
00:27:30,170 --> 00:27:32,930
hear, you know, the guys that
he's resonating with, like

491
00:27:32,930 --> 00:27:37,050
Ricard and Lynch, you know, he's
able to relate to them in this

492
00:27:37,050 --> 00:27:40,450
kind of calm way.
He's able to kind of, you know,

493
00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:44,050
coach them through but not like,
in a way that's like very

494
00:27:44,050 --> 00:27:46,530
sophisticated but makes sense to
them.

495
00:27:46,730 --> 00:27:49,970
And I think, you know, he's
finding the right types of guys

496
00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:53,550
that resonate with his message
and he's not like a rah, rah in

497
00:27:53,550 --> 00:27:55,510
your face like type of
recruiter.

498
00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:58,350
And I think there's, you know,
plenty of guys on the staff that

499
00:27:58,350 --> 00:27:59,550
you look at and you're like
okay.

500
00:27:59,550 --> 00:28:01,990
These guys are the recruiters of
the bunch.

501
00:28:01,990 --> 00:28:04,590
Like they're good coaches, but
they're the ones that were

502
00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:08,430
putting it, you know, our aces.
But but Crook has lived up to

503
00:28:08,430 --> 00:28:10,710
his billing man.
Like he has done a great job on

504
00:28:10,710 --> 00:28:15,550
the trail and you know, just
being so knowledgeable and you

505
00:28:15,550 --> 00:28:19,110
know all the reviews from these
guys on their official visits

506
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:21,420
and you know, committing has
been great.

507
00:28:21,420 --> 00:28:24,980
So huge credit to him.
I think he's far surpassed any

508
00:28:24,980 --> 00:28:27,020
expectation I've had of him on
the trail.

509
00:28:28,060 --> 00:28:29,300
Yeah, you love love to hear
that.

510
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:31,540
I mean, especially with the
offensive line, especially how

511
00:28:31,540 --> 00:28:34,180
much they struggled last year
and how much of an emphasis is

512
00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:37,300
going to be kind of backfilling
a lot of those positions to get

513
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:40,380
some some depth across the
offensive line heading in the

514
00:28:40,380 --> 00:28:43,340
next season.
Let's pivot a little bit to talk

515
00:28:43,340 --> 00:28:46,820
about some of that, cuz we need
to backfill a lot of positions

516
00:28:46,820 --> 00:28:49,930
across the roster.
The staff I feel has done a

517
00:28:49,930 --> 00:28:52,690
pretty good job of of that so
far this class.

518
00:28:53,170 --> 00:28:57,530
What position group do you think
will see the most commitments as

519
00:28:57,530 --> 00:29:00,170
we kind of wrap up the summer
and head into fall camp?

520
00:29:01,170 --> 00:29:03,050
Yeah, I would.
I would definitely say they're

521
00:29:03,050 --> 00:29:05,970
looking to bolster that
linebacker room, maybe add

522
00:29:05,970 --> 00:29:08,850
another defensive end.
And I think already on defense,

523
00:29:08,850 --> 00:29:12,490
you're kind of done there, like
maybe Rainier in the back end

524
00:29:12,890 --> 00:29:19,210
looking at guys like, you know,
Fred or Chris Cole to fill out

525
00:29:19,210 --> 00:29:22,090
that linebacker unit, which
would be absolutely stacked.

526
00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:26,650
And then, you know, mainly for
offense, I think you feel good

527
00:29:26,650 --> 00:29:29,370
at receiver.
You have your quarterback, you

528
00:29:29,370 --> 00:29:32,930
have a running back building out
that offensive line, maybe

529
00:29:32,930 --> 00:29:35,930
adding one to two more guys.
You know, I think they're kind

530
00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:38,210
of slow playing that offensive
line room right now.

531
00:29:38,210 --> 00:29:41,410
Like, I don't know if there's
any definite names that jump to

532
00:29:41,410 --> 00:29:44,530
the top in my head right now,
but that's the thing, too.

533
00:29:44,530 --> 00:29:46,770
Like you always have the
transfer portal coming up.

534
00:29:47,460 --> 00:29:49,220
That could be a way to address
it.

535
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:53,060
And Crook has already done a
good job in the transfer portal,

536
00:29:53,060 --> 00:29:55,540
you know.
So I don't know, we'll see.

537
00:29:55,540 --> 00:29:57,740
But I would definitely say
offensive line, linebacker.

538
00:29:57,740 --> 00:30:00,020
Those are the main two points
right now.

539
00:30:00,020 --> 00:30:03,580
Getting a guy that can, you
know, be a mic and then you

540
00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:05,580
know, finding a versatile fit
outside too.

541
00:30:06,980 --> 00:30:09,060
Yeah.
And the whole thing is that what

542
00:30:09,060 --> 00:30:12,300
we saw for years prior to this
was sort of the unbalanced

543
00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:16,220
recruiting cycles.
I think right now we got, we got

544
00:30:16,220 --> 00:30:18,260
three on the offensive line.
You just said that we need a

545
00:30:18,260 --> 00:30:21,260
couple more.
We got 3 defensive linemen and

546
00:30:21,260 --> 00:30:23,700
you've already said it, mate.
We need one more end of who's

547
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:27,100
going to be that guy out there.
If we just look at it and take a

548
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:29,700
step back, it's like everything
makes sense, right?

549
00:30:30,420 --> 00:30:33,220
Like everything makes sense.
Like it's all level.

550
00:30:33,660 --> 00:30:35,660
To where?
Why it was?

551
00:30:36,050 --> 00:30:39,650
And we saw it last year when you
don't build a roster right and

552
00:30:39,650 --> 00:30:43,170
you have 14 running backs in A
room.

553
00:30:43,610 --> 00:30:45,810
You mean you don't take 4
running backs in one cycle?

554
00:30:47,090 --> 00:30:51,610
No, we've had that conversation
so many times.

555
00:30:51,690 --> 00:30:54,930
Like, I mean, OK, maybe one will
transition here.

556
00:30:54,930 --> 00:30:56,290
Maybe.
Like, no, they're still in the

557
00:30:56,290 --> 00:31:00,970
running back room this year too.
It's like, God damn it can't do

558
00:31:01,010 --> 00:31:05,170
this shit.
But y'all get the gist like

559
00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:08,290
right, like we all, we can all
step back and tell you're seeing

560
00:31:08,290 --> 00:31:12,530
it first hand.
And I think that's where it goes

561
00:31:12,530 --> 00:31:16,690
like who's left out there, right
who's left out there.

562
00:31:17,050 --> 00:31:21,770
That's still potential.
Who are we targeting and may be

563
00:31:21,770 --> 00:31:23,490
committed elsewhere.
And that's where it gets really

564
00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:28,010
interesting because, you know,
we take a look right now and I

565
00:31:28,010 --> 00:31:31,090
know I don't have this part of
the rundown, but we've been

566
00:31:31,090 --> 00:31:33,920
talking about it. +3 is special.
I know you've been paying

567
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,480
attention to it.
Text 34 overall, right?

568
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,160
34th overall?
We're 8th in the ACC and a lot

569
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,440
of people would scream bloody
murder, but Mr. Siegler keeps

570
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:45,840
trying to point to that number.
Right, Brian?

571
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,280
What's that number we keep
pointing to?

572
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,800
Let's look at that average
recruit ranking because that's

573
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,480
that's higher than we've seen
since at least 19 I think maybe

574
00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,680
even 18 up in that 88 and change
range right now, so.

575
00:32:02,010 --> 00:32:04,010
Yeah, I'd love to live right
around 89.

576
00:32:04,130 --> 00:32:08,010
That would be 8989. 1/2 would be
a nice place to live.

577
00:32:08,010 --> 00:32:09,570
Well, I mean, we got the man
over here.

578
00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:11,290
Tell him to quit dropping our
rankings.

579
00:32:12,610 --> 00:32:15,610
Oh God, he got a he got a beef
with you and say wait a second,

580
00:32:15,770 --> 00:32:20,090
he he literally, he
screenshotted and texted us the

581
00:32:20,130 --> 00:32:22,290
day after.
Keelan, go ahead, go ahead.

582
00:32:22,490 --> 00:32:24,690
You got to go.
Ahead day after Keelan we had

583
00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:28,990
like .0019 drop.
Crazy.

584
00:32:30,670 --> 00:32:35,190
I'm like he's doing this because
he know he's coming over here.

585
00:32:36,030 --> 00:32:37,110
I promise.
It's not me.

586
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:38,550
I promise.
It's not me.

587
00:32:38,830 --> 00:32:43,230
Every time I go on a podcast and
try to defend our rankings

588
00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:47,390
experts, it always happens.
It always happens and it's the

589
00:32:47,390 --> 00:32:49,670
most frustrating thing.
Don't get me.

590
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:52,270
I like seeing the reaction
because it's pretty funny, but

591
00:32:52,270 --> 00:32:56,400
like, you know it, it's crazy.
But here's the thing I asked and

592
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,080
and this is where and I don't
understand all the metrics and

593
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,720
I'm sure it's dad and all this.
What changed with Keelan Adams

594
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,560
in one day?
He still, I mean, we look at the

595
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,200
profiles.
The only thing not certifying

596
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,720
him is this 40 times his height,
his weight.

597
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,480
A lot of your ring King guys
have seen him in action and it's

598
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,720
like legitimately the only thing
you don't have is a laser time

599
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,240
40.
But you saw the kid play if you

600
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,520
did not feel like he was fast
enough.

601
00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:25,030
You wouldn't put him in the top
150.

602
00:33:25,390 --> 00:33:27,310
You wouldn't put him as a top
five player in the state.

603
00:33:27,310 --> 00:33:30,550
You wouldn't put him, you know,
upper, you know, right at the

604
00:33:30,550 --> 00:33:32,830
mid 90 level.
And that's why I think that's

605
00:33:32,830 --> 00:33:34,790
what gets us.
It's like what changed?

606
00:33:34,790 --> 00:33:37,870
And the only thing to change was
he didn't go to Alabama.

607
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:40,310
He didn't go to South Carolina,
He didn't go to Ohio State

608
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:43,430
again, Virginia Tech.
It's always like they they

609
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:47,190
always look at it.
They look every commitment.

610
00:33:47,190 --> 00:33:49,470
They look at the guy.
They reevaluate.

611
00:33:49,850 --> 00:33:51,450
It must be some UVA into, you
know.

612
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:54,410
That's gotta be.
It's gotta be.

613
00:33:54,650 --> 00:33:56,130
That's the only way it makes
sense.

614
00:33:56,130 --> 00:33:57,850
Gotta be somebody messing with
us.

615
00:33:57,850 --> 00:33:59,210
Gotta be somebody messing with
us.

616
00:33:59,250 --> 00:34:01,970
Man, we we see Davi's ranking
drop in.

617
00:34:02,090 --> 00:34:06,450
I mean, he hasn't really camped
anywhere or anything, and by all

618
00:34:06,570 --> 00:34:11,250
accounts he's gotten taller
since he was a four-star.

619
00:34:12,090 --> 00:34:16,170
So, you know, sometimes it
doesn't.

620
00:34:17,690 --> 00:34:20,090
Make hobby got dropped because
his his parents don't have

621
00:34:20,090 --> 00:34:22,650
athletic backgrounds.
All in all, you can't say that

622
00:34:22,650 --> 00:34:26,090
dude, his dad was a fucking
killer in the UFC, but tell you

623
00:34:26,090 --> 00:34:27,850
were such a good sport on this
man.

624
00:34:27,929 --> 00:34:29,449
And we got.
I'm trying.

625
00:34:29,850 --> 00:34:31,409
We we love you, man.
You know that.

626
00:34:31,810 --> 00:34:34,810
Before we get into more topics,
because we got a lot more stuff

627
00:34:34,810 --> 00:34:36,409
to cover, we got to pay some
bills.

628
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Now back to the episode.
And we are back up Tally you on

637
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:06,300
mute, big old uh oh.
Hey, guys.

638
00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:07,580
Still on mute.
I'm good.

639
00:35:07,900 --> 00:35:10,770
You are good.
Hey man, we back sometimes how

640
00:35:10,770 --> 00:35:13,890
we do shoot this live, so
sometimes there is a little bit

641
00:35:13,890 --> 00:35:16,210
of technical difficulty,
Sometimes it's usually

642
00:35:16,330 --> 00:35:19,690
difficulty.
But we are back with my guy mate

643
00:35:19,690 --> 00:35:22,410
Sis.
I told him before we started I

644
00:35:22,410 --> 00:35:24,970
thought his name was a villain
name.

645
00:35:24,970 --> 00:35:30,450
He told me he's a superhero, so
we take a he's he's the good

646
00:35:30,450 --> 00:35:32,130
guy.
He's not the villain, but he's

647
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:34,690
got a cool name.
But yeah, he's here chopping it

648
00:35:34,690 --> 00:35:37,090
up with us a little bit.
We've been grilling him a little

649
00:35:37,090 --> 00:35:41,180
bit, having a good time.
Next thing we'll pivot to is

650
00:35:41,180 --> 00:35:44,820
talking about Coach Pry.
Coach Pry talked about his six

651
00:35:44,820 --> 00:35:48,780
hour footprint, which we've been
doing a pretty good job of

652
00:35:48,780 --> 00:35:52,340
staying in.
We've got a lot of say local

653
00:35:52,340 --> 00:35:56,820
kids, Virginia kids, you know,
DMV kids, but Marcellus,

654
00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:02,020
Marcellus Barnes, Marcellus
Barnes Junior is one of our

655
00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:04,460
high-ranking recruits that we
got.

656
00:36:04,460 --> 00:36:07,300
It came out of the East
Tennessee area.

657
00:36:08,070 --> 00:36:10,870
Committed right wing gate or
same weekend Gabe committed.

658
00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:14,030
So great to have him in.
Like I said another four-star

659
00:36:14,030 --> 00:36:17,630
guy that we have.
We've been going to Tennessee a

660
00:36:17,630 --> 00:36:22,150
little bit in the last couple of
cycles and it's been pretty good

661
00:36:22,150 --> 00:36:25,070
to us.
Do you see us continuing to go

662
00:36:25,070 --> 00:36:28,590
to that Tennessee area and
create those relationships?

663
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:32,550
Yeah, it's kind of crazy to me
that you know, I thought that

664
00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:35,190
you know it would kind of be
like a one off that you're

665
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:38,890
looking at you know at the very,
you know edge of your radius

666
00:36:38,890 --> 00:36:42,250
picking guys up like obviously
Tennessee has a lot of good

667
00:36:42,250 --> 00:36:45,410
prospects And then you look at
last year you get Mose Phillips,

668
00:36:45,410 --> 00:36:49,290
Lance Williams, Aiden Green,
Chance Fitzgerald and you know

669
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:52,490
Green and Fitzgerald were kind
of towards the end of the cycle

670
00:36:53,450 --> 00:36:55,650
and kind of and Phillips as
well.

671
00:36:55,650 --> 00:36:58,810
You know, all three of those
guys were kind of the the right

672
00:36:58,810 --> 00:37:02,770
before signing day, figuring
those guys out and having those

673
00:37:02,770 --> 00:37:06,240
relationships established and
you know, kind of being open to

674
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,040
bring those guys on when other
options didn't work out.

675
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,720
So you know, definitely it
surprised me because I always

676
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:17,000
think, OK, they're done here.
Like, you know, it's tough to

677
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,680
pick guys out of Tennessee that
you know want to come all the

678
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,400
way over to Virginia Tech.
But, you know, they keep finding

679
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,200
ways and, you know, credit to
the staff.

680
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,480
They're finding the guys that
are receptive, they're targeting

681
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,400
schools that, you know, have
talented prospects, but also

682
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,960
that want to go on these visits.
And then, you know, they're

683
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,630
taking the onus to say if you
get this guy on campus, we have

684
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:38,550
a chance.
And so far it's worked out

685
00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:40,510
pretty well.
I mean, I kind of talked about

686
00:37:40,510 --> 00:37:43,150
it before with Barnes.
But, you know, he was a guy

687
00:37:43,150 --> 00:37:45,710
that, you know, offers from
Michigan State.

688
00:37:45,710 --> 00:37:48,390
He was going to go to, you know,
other big 10 schools on official

689
00:37:48,390 --> 00:37:51,350
visits, comes to Virginia Tech
for his first official visit.

690
00:37:51,350 --> 00:37:53,110
And he's like, this is it for
me.

691
00:37:53,110 --> 00:37:56,030
I can't ask for more.
And like, since since then,

692
00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:59,310
like, still checking in on him.
He's over the moon excited about

693
00:37:59,310 --> 00:38:01,630
being a hokey.
Like nothing's changed there,

694
00:38:01,630 --> 00:38:04,560
you know.
So being able to identify guys

695
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,120
like that I think is really
important.

696
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,640
I definitely think they can make
a pipeline out of it.

697
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,160
I'm not saying like let's expect
four guys every cycle from

698
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,120
Tennessee, but you know, the
talent is there and if they're

699
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,040
receptive to the message,
Virginia Tech has a good shot

700
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,400
there.
Yeah, and it and it's something

701
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,880
that, mate, we've discussed with
you, we've discussed with other

702
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,920
people.
It's all about picking off, you

703
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,600
know?
Certain number of prospects in a

704
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,360
certain range from each state.
You know Barnes is a top ten guy

705
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,000
in Tennessee.
I think all four of us sit here

706
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:39,040
every year and you say if we
pick one top 10 Tennessee guy

707
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,080
off every year, Yep, that's
good.

708
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:42,680
That's good.
He's probably going to be a

709
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,400
borderline 4 star.
He's probably going to be

710
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,320
athletic.
He's probably, to your point

711
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,720
tally you know some of those
schools down that way that are

712
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:51,840
good football factory.
So he's probably coming from

713
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,870
good coaching.
And I think that's a big thing.

714
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:56,710
I think that's what we got to
keep looking at.

715
00:38:56,830 --> 00:39:00,070
And that radius thing Tally you
talked about there, I mean we've

716
00:39:00,070 --> 00:39:02,790
seen it with the exception of
Davi down in Florida, which you

717
00:39:03,030 --> 00:39:06,150
don't count, Florida, cuz
Florida and parts of Georgia,

718
00:39:06,350 --> 00:39:08,950
it's out of your radius, but it
should never be out of a radius.

719
00:39:09,230 --> 00:39:11,750
You got to do that.
But I want to flip over to this

720
00:39:11,750 --> 00:39:14,190
staying into the kind of
geography talk here, let's talk

721
00:39:14,190 --> 00:39:16,870
about North Carolina.
The state of North Carolina does

722
00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:20,430
have the second most, you know,
commits for Virginia Tech right

723
00:39:20,430 --> 00:39:21,910
now.
And that's it 3.

724
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:25,910
And you mentioned to us back in
March that you thought, you know

725
00:39:26,270 --> 00:39:28,910
Charlotte was going to be a big,
heavy hit area.

726
00:39:29,350 --> 00:39:31,630
And so far it's not been that
heavy.

727
00:39:31,630 --> 00:39:34,910
Only one commitment, Quinton
Reddish, who recently tally,

728
00:39:34,910 --> 00:39:36,910
believe it or not, Quinn Reddish
got a bump.

729
00:39:37,230 --> 00:39:39,710
I don't know if you saw that out
of bump.

730
00:39:39,950 --> 00:39:42,670
So they're not all against us,
but he recently got a bump.

731
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:45,710
But do you think they're going
to gain more traction down in

732
00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:49,390
the Charlotte area this fall or
is it just for this cycle, just

733
00:39:49,390 --> 00:39:50,990
some things didn't break the
right way?

734
00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:54,310
Yeah, not all the predictions
coming true from March

735
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:58,110
unfortunately, But you know,
Charlotte still is that targeted

736
00:39:58,110 --> 00:39:59,750
area.
I would say it's, you know,

737
00:40:00,110 --> 00:40:03,430
outside of Virginia, that's the
spot that the staff is really

738
00:40:03,430 --> 00:40:05,630
targeting.
The thing about North Carolina

739
00:40:05,630 --> 00:40:09,310
in general, you know, a lot of
guys in the top 50 are from

740
00:40:09,310 --> 00:40:12,270
those Charlotte areas.
If you look at the top 50 of

741
00:40:12,270 --> 00:40:16,030
North Carolina, nearly every
single player is committed.

742
00:40:16,030 --> 00:40:18,630
I think like there's 44 out of
50 guys.

743
00:40:19,020 --> 00:40:21,180
From North Carolina in the
database that are committed

744
00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:25,100
right now and it's because it's
such a talent hotbed like they

745
00:40:25,180 --> 00:40:29,140
they've invested into football
recently and they've really

746
00:40:29,140 --> 00:40:32,460
gotten so many guys to come over
there and play for these really

747
00:40:32,460 --> 00:40:36,420
big programs.
And it's you know, you know

748
00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:40,860
across the country these schools
are coming in and building these

749
00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:43,740
relationships for years.
And you know, admittedly, I

750
00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:45,940
thought it was going to be more
fruitful this year.

751
00:40:46,420 --> 00:40:49,180
But I think this is definitely
an area to keep your eye on in

752
00:40:49,180 --> 00:40:53,140
the following cycles.
Because you know, as Virginia

753
00:40:53,140 --> 00:40:56,500
Tech begins its rise, you know,
whether that's recruiting

754
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:59,860
momentum or on the field next
fall and they really start to

755
00:40:59,860 --> 00:41:02,500
get it going.
You know, this is an area that

756
00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:05,620
instead of going to Louisville
or instead of going to Georgia

757
00:41:05,620 --> 00:41:08,580
Tech or you know all these other
various schools that are

758
00:41:08,580 --> 00:41:12,340
involved with that area, UNC,
you know Virginia Tech is going

759
00:41:12,340 --> 00:41:15,580
to become a place that's going
to become very familiar.

760
00:41:15,580 --> 00:41:19,500
So it's definitely tough in
North Carolina.

761
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:22,340
But that's the area that you
know, this staff is really

762
00:41:22,340 --> 00:41:25,300
working hard to get, you know,
some inroads in.

763
00:41:25,820 --> 00:41:27,940
Yeah, and let's let's talk about
that a little bit.

764
00:41:27,940 --> 00:41:31,700
Cuz when we had pride on, he
talked about how he still feels

765
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:34,900
like in terms of the
relationships, particularly I

766
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:38,140
think probably the six hour
radius versus the Virginia

767
00:41:38,140 --> 00:41:41,060
relationships, they're still
kind of building that right.

768
00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:44,730
They're not quite.
Getting guys on campus as early

769
00:41:44,730 --> 00:41:48,370
in their high school career as
he would want.

770
00:41:48,370 --> 00:41:52,050
So that might be something that
when you look at Charlotte area

771
00:41:52,050 --> 00:41:54,450
you talked about how you know
you got so many kids in North

772
00:41:54,450 --> 00:41:56,690
Carolina that are already, you
know, they've given their

773
00:41:56,690 --> 00:41:59,330
commitment so far, right.
So unless we're flipping some of

774
00:41:59,330 --> 00:42:02,170
those guys the the the window's
a lot narrower now.

775
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,160
That might be something when we
look long term into 25, maybe 26

776
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,520
where we start making some more
inroads when we're getting those

777
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,680
kids on campus a lot sooner in
the in the recruitment cycle and

778
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,560
have a better shot of kind of
getting them earlier in the in

779
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,600
the spring and in early summer
window instead of having to kind

780
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,160
of push later in the cycle.
Let's let's pivot a little bit

781
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,960
because you know we talked about
the bringing the guys in.

782
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,000
Let's talk about a couple guys
that went out.

783
00:42:29,890 --> 00:42:31,970
In this case, we had a couple
guys that hit the portal in the

784
00:42:31,970 --> 00:42:35,250
spring window.
I'm going to ask you this, which

785
00:42:35,250 --> 00:42:37,410
one surprised you more between
the two?

786
00:42:37,410 --> 00:42:41,810
Kyrie Moisten or Cam Johnson.
I think for me it's Kyrie

787
00:42:41,810 --> 00:42:46,450
Moisten just because you know
he's a guy that and even going

788
00:42:46,450 --> 00:42:49,770
into this year like I know they
brought some help at defensive

789
00:42:49,770 --> 00:42:53,290
end through the transfer portal
in JUCO.

790
00:42:53,290 --> 00:42:56,890
But he's a guy that was kind of
in the too deep.

791
00:42:57,250 --> 00:43:00,410
Like it seems like every week
when they're updating the depth

792
00:43:00,410 --> 00:43:04,450
chart he was like right there
for defensive end #2.

793
00:43:04,770 --> 00:43:07,730
And you know he's a guy that
jumps in the portal and is going

794
00:43:07,730 --> 00:43:10,530
to Cincinnati, which you know
has a great defense.

795
00:43:10,530 --> 00:43:12,050
Like say what you want about
them.

796
00:43:12,370 --> 00:43:14,930
They have a great defense and
they know how to develop guys on

797
00:43:14,930 --> 00:43:18,210
that defensive line.
When I I know like a lot of

798
00:43:18,210 --> 00:43:21,450
people look at Cam Johnson and
they're they're looking at his

799
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:24,940
you know high school ranking and
saying this guy was a four-star

800
00:43:25,220 --> 00:43:27,780
bonafide whatever.
You know he did come into

801
00:43:27,780 --> 00:43:34,300
college he was like 165 maybe
you know on a good day but yeah

802
00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:35,860
so wet that's what I was looking
for.

803
00:43:35,940 --> 00:43:39,500
But, you know, he was a guy
that, you know, he did get a

804
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:42,700
little bit of experience but you
know, clearly wasn't ready this

805
00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:47,170
year to impact the team.
And I think what I'm surprised

806
00:43:47,170 --> 00:43:50,890
like just in general of leaving,
I'm surprised that, you know, I,

807
00:43:50,890 --> 00:43:53,690
I don't think he's found a home
yet, which is so crazy to me.

808
00:43:53,690 --> 00:43:57,450
You know, this is a guy one year
removed or a year and a half

809
00:43:57,450 --> 00:44:01,050
removed from being, you know, a
consensus 4 star among every

810
00:44:01,330 --> 00:44:04,450
ranking industry.
And you know, he's still looking

811
00:44:04,450 --> 00:44:06,130
for a home.
So I know it.

812
00:44:06,530 --> 00:44:08,970
He's probably a guy that a lot
of people looked at and said,

813
00:44:09,010 --> 00:44:11,450
you know, Dang.
But when you're looking at the

814
00:44:11,450 --> 00:44:14,460
two position groups, like you
feel good about cornerback

815
00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:17,020
heading into next year, you're
bringing guys like Barnes for

816
00:44:17,020 --> 00:44:20,140
the following year that's going
to, you know, a guy that's going

817
00:44:20,140 --> 00:44:23,700
to be able to develop Joshua
Clark too, who I still think is

818
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:27,540
the most underrated guy on the
commitment list and could play

819
00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:30,140
at corner as well.
So you feel good there at

820
00:44:30,140 --> 00:44:31,980
defensive end.
You know, they brought in some

821
00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:35,260
guys to help out, but I really
thought Moisten would have a

822
00:44:35,260 --> 00:44:37,220
chance to really stick in that
too deep.

823
00:44:37,220 --> 00:44:40,420
So I am a little, you know, I
think that was the big, the

824
00:44:40,420 --> 00:44:44,180
bigger surprise for me.
Right looking.

825
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:47,020
I mean, this isn't just
something that I seen the other

826
00:44:47,020 --> 00:44:51,540
day, most Phillips.
I seen a picture of him another

827
00:44:51,540 --> 00:44:58,260
day.
Did y'all see it?

828
00:44:58,260 --> 00:45:00,420
Jesus Christ, I don't know what
his ranking is.

829
00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:04,380
I don't care right now.
But when you start talking about

830
00:45:04,620 --> 00:45:08,020
weights and sizes and the way
that people look coming out of

831
00:45:08,020 --> 00:45:11,330
high school.
No disrespect to Cam Johnson, I

832
00:45:11,330 --> 00:45:15,170
hope he goes on to have a great
career but a little light in the

833
00:45:15,170 --> 00:45:18,810
ass and then you start seeing
these people coming in or these

834
00:45:18,810 --> 00:45:21,610
people that prize going and
getting and like, he said when

835
00:45:21,610 --> 00:45:25,450
he was on the podcast, he said,
I told the players on the

836
00:45:25,450 --> 00:45:28,010
roster, it's my job to have a
competitive roster.

837
00:45:28,370 --> 00:45:30,370
I'm bringing people in to take
your place.

838
00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:34,370
Looking at players like most
Phillips that are able to come

839
00:45:34,370 --> 00:45:38,370
on campus and step in and
contribute, man, it's going to

840
00:45:38,370 --> 00:45:41,130
be.
A very competitive thing, you

841
00:45:41,130 --> 00:45:44,170
know, And even thinking about
our recruits that we have, you

842
00:45:44,170 --> 00:45:47,730
know, right now all of these
wide receivers that we've got,

843
00:45:48,130 --> 00:45:51,210
looking at somebody like a Makai
White out there, that's like,

844
00:45:51,210 --> 00:45:52,610
hey, are we going to take it if
we're?

845
00:45:53,050 --> 00:45:55,730
I never thought we'd be in that
situation where we're like, are

846
00:45:55,730 --> 00:45:57,570
we going to take a four-star
receiver?

847
00:45:58,130 --> 00:46:00,930
Crazy.
But anyway, you know, over to

848
00:46:00,970 --> 00:46:03,650
the next point that I was going.
To hold on tally before you jump

849
00:46:03,650 --> 00:46:04,810
to that next.
Point go ahead.

850
00:46:05,250 --> 00:46:08,210
Start, but no, I mean I hold on
to that point because I know

851
00:46:08,210 --> 00:46:28,370
where you're going next.
Like Mensa.

852
00:46:09,490 --> 00:46:12,850
Let's look at the just look at
the 247 rankings and the bodies

853
00:46:12,850 --> 00:46:16,010
y'all have on these guys.
I start looking even somebody

854
00:46:16,010 --> 00:46:18,290
like Gabe Williams at six, four
��200.

855
00:46:19,050 --> 00:46:22,050
I mean, Kianta Jenkins is
playing, you know, star

856
00:46:22,050 --> 00:46:26,610
linebacker at 2:15, the safety's
are playing at like two O 5 you

857
00:46:26,610 --> 00:46:30,480
look at.
This is 290 pounds.

858
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,840
Every bit of it.
I think it's all in his legs.

859
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,480
It's it's that point.
Yeah, but it's the point that's

860
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,840
being made is, and it's a great
point, Ally, that look, what we

861
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,080
were bringing in and what we are
bringing in, what we are

862
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:47,160
bringing in is guys that, like
you said, I set it to us

863
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,520
directly.
I'm bringing people to take your

864
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,000
jobs and one of the most
important things about taking

865
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,960
that job right off the get go is
is your bodily physically ready

866
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,680
to go through a Division One
football season.

867
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,760
The guys we're getting right
now, if they ain't ready, they

868
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,360
ain't far from it.
Yup, talking about some of the

869
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,240
guys that we did get talking
about it.

870
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,080
You know, one of the guys that
we did get out of the portal,

871
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:14,480
Antoine Powell, Riley.
I mean, God, that was at

872
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,600
Florida.
God, that was productive at

873
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,000
Florida.
We go statue him out of the

874
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,080
portal.
How do how much do you think?

875
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,200
My man?
I call him Glenwood Mac, I think

876
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,440
my man Glenwood.
I like that.

877
00:47:27,850 --> 00:47:29,370
Yeah.
How much do you think he played

878
00:47:29,370 --> 00:47:33,450
in us having that chance and
going and grabbing, answering

879
00:47:33,450 --> 00:47:37,050
out of that, out of the portal?
Yeah, there's definitely some

880
00:47:37,050 --> 00:47:39,730
Indian River ties there.
Obviously, he was the head

881
00:47:39,730 --> 00:47:42,890
coach.
I think, you know, just in

882
00:47:42,890 --> 00:47:45,250
general he's been really good
for this recruiting staff.

883
00:47:45,250 --> 00:47:48,130
And this is something that you
know when you get that extra

884
00:47:48,130 --> 00:47:51,330
investment from the athletic
department and you're able to

885
00:47:51,330 --> 00:47:54,090
bring in guys like that to help
out your operations.

886
00:47:54,090 --> 00:47:56,890
Like he's done a great job in
terms of high school

887
00:47:56,890 --> 00:47:59,530
relationships and you know, he
was definitely big here.

888
00:47:59,530 --> 00:48:02,210
I think he was definitely a key
factor.

889
00:48:02,210 --> 00:48:05,330
But, you know, looking at
Powell's recruitment in general,

890
00:48:05,330 --> 00:48:10,530
like if you guys remember when
he was back in, you know, going

891
00:48:10,530 --> 00:48:13,610
through his visits and Florida
came up and he had some ties

892
00:48:13,610 --> 00:48:17,790
there, some family ties.
Virginia Tech was always right

893
00:48:17,790 --> 00:48:19,670
there.
Like it was always Michigan,

894
00:48:19,670 --> 00:48:23,070
Oklahoma, UNC, they were kind of
shuffling out there.

895
00:48:23,310 --> 00:48:26,110
Virginia Tech was always at the
top and then Florida at the last

896
00:48:26,110 --> 00:48:28,990
second, You know, he decided to
go there.

897
00:48:28,990 --> 00:48:32,510
And you know, I think he figured
out really quickly, You know,

898
00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:35,150
this isn't the best fit for me.
They're more of a 3-4.

899
00:48:35,350 --> 00:48:38,830
I'm kind of playing this, you
know, outside linebacker,

900
00:48:38,830 --> 00:48:43,230
rushing specialty and you know,
kind of 1/3 down role.

901
00:48:43,350 --> 00:48:47,190
Whereas I could be more of a
natural, you know, playing in a

902
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:51,350
four, three and you know,
playing in my home state,

903
00:48:51,350 --> 00:48:53,350
playing with the program that
I'm familiar with.

904
00:48:53,350 --> 00:48:55,590
So I think there are a lot of
reasons there.

905
00:48:56,030 --> 00:48:59,390
And you know, it's kind of funny
because it I hear so often like

906
00:48:59,390 --> 00:49:02,470
in high school recruiting, like
if you're finishing #2, you

907
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:05,360
might as well finish last.
But I think like definitely in

908
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,560
this recruitment, finishing #2
definitely helped them in the

909
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,280
transfer portal.
And that, you know that is

910
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,000
something to keep an eye out
for.

911
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,480
When these guys are are going
through this and starting to

912
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,320
look at, you know they go to a
program that's not the best fit,

913
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,400
they're back on the market and
you know he's his stats were

914
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,240
pretty absurd in terms of you
look at his PFF stats and you

915
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:30,440
know how effective he was in the
time that he played So and you

916
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,140
look at a position of need like
he is a great fit for what

917
00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:36,340
Virginia Technique is.
Just get the quarterback on the

918
00:49:36,340 --> 00:49:38,460
ground.
That's what they need.

919
00:49:39,060 --> 00:49:41,260
Go kill quarterback.
That's all you gotta do and

920
00:49:41,260 --> 00:49:44,460
that's all he is gonna do here.
And it's good to hear that

921
00:49:44,460 --> 00:49:46,620
because I think in the area of
transfer portal, we've talked

922
00:49:46,620 --> 00:49:48,500
about it with you before and
we've talked about amongst

923
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:53,300
ourselves those relationships
going forward after the

924
00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:55,500
commitment.
Yes, they're still gonna be

925
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:58,900
recruited after the NLI is
signed.

926
00:49:59,790 --> 00:50:02,790
You know, every I'm sure I've
got a feeling talking with Brent

927
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:05,390
Brown here, I got a feeling
there's like an agenda to say,

928
00:50:05,790 --> 00:50:08,150
you know, all those kids that we
didn't get, make sure they're

929
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:11,310
doing okay.
Not only probably being genuine

930
00:50:11,310 --> 00:50:13,710
to say check on to make sure
they're doing Okay, these kids

931
00:50:13,710 --> 00:50:16,110
are going through changes.
But it's also a business

932
00:50:16,110 --> 00:50:19,950
approach to say, you know what
if it ain't going okay and they

933
00:50:19,950 --> 00:50:22,990
keep seeing your number pop up
checking in on you, hey, you're

934
00:50:22,990 --> 00:50:24,630
doing okay.
How's can going?

935
00:50:25,150 --> 00:50:28,390
It resonates.
It resonates over time.

936
00:50:28,810 --> 00:50:31,770
Let's talk about the other kind
of big land in the portal.

937
00:50:31,770 --> 00:50:35,250
After the spring stuff was
Clayton Frady.

938
00:50:35,570 --> 00:50:38,170
I kind of came out of nowhere
Clayton Frady out of Gardner

939
00:50:38,170 --> 00:50:43,290
Web.
You know, it happened almost too

940
00:50:43,290 --> 00:50:46,450
late because I think it was just
a day or two before the portal

941
00:50:46,450 --> 00:50:49,450
closed to where we would not
have been able to land him.

942
00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:53,490
You know, obviously some All Big
S honors got preseason All

943
00:50:53,490 --> 00:50:55,930
American honors.
So played primarily right

944
00:50:55,930 --> 00:51:00,350
tackle, did play some left.
What pieces fell together for

945
00:51:00,350 --> 00:51:05,430
him to land in Blacksburg?
And do you think from, you know,

946
00:51:05,430 --> 00:51:07,710
from what he's done in the past,
is there a legitimate shot he

947
00:51:07,710 --> 00:51:10,230
could play this year?
Absolutely.

948
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:12,350
I mean, you know, I think he's
definitely going to be in

949
00:51:12,350 --> 00:51:15,590
competition for, you know,
whether it's right tackle or

950
00:51:15,590 --> 00:51:18,750
left tackle, however Crook wants
to set it up, you know, he's

951
00:51:18,750 --> 00:51:21,270
going to be there.
I think he only allowed like 3

952
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:23,390
sacks over three years or
something.

953
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,920
So he's a guy and obviously it's
different competition and you

954
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,000
know, take that with a grain of
salt, but you know, a guy that

955
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,960
at least was proven was like all
freshman American, whatever.

956
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,200
I think there are numerous
things there, like obviously the

957
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,960
top guy in terms of offensive
line, you're looking at a guy

958
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,720
like Troy Everett that ended up
at Oklahoma.

959
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,080
And I think once, you know,
Virginia Tech went all out, and

960
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,400
we're hoping you know, by the
way, the only time I've been

961
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,240
wrong twice on a crystal ball is
Troy Everett.

962
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:57,760
So forever haunt me in.
My you know, if he if he goes

963
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,520
one more time, you can try to
get the strikeout.

964
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:02,600
I know we'll see if he transfers
from Oklahoma.

965
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,760
You know, that would be not the
best strikeout to have.

966
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,280
But you know, in all
seriousness, like they were

967
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:09,920
looking to bring in one more
guy.

968
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,600
And I think, you know, when they
were looking at Basal Tutten,

969
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,320
like you're looking in the same
league, You see this guy on film

970
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:19,480
all of a sudden, you know, and
and by the way, like Ron Crook

971
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:23,560
was told, we need this, we need
someone, you know, go out there,

972
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:27,320
see what you can find and you
know, was able to find a guy and

973
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,680
you know, again, he's finding
people that resonate with his

974
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,920
personality, his kind of
technique and mentoring.

975
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,400
And you know, I think there are
other schools like Duke was

976
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,120
heavily on him as well.
So there were other Power Five

977
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,480
programs on him.
But I think they were able to

978
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,360
find someone that they said he
fits with our identity and

979
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,920
instead of, you know, Freighty
like you said, it was kind of

980
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,880
towards the end of the cycle.
He looked at it and said, I got

981
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,840
the offer, this is a great fit
for me, let's make it happen.

982
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,520
So, you know, sometimes things
happen quickly like that they

983
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,080
could be fluid.
But All in all, you know, I

984
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,400
think it was a good pick up and
even as a depth piece, I mean

985
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,140
you look at the offensive line,
you could use it more depths

986
00:53:08,140 --> 00:53:11,580
guys there like it seemed pretty
thin last year, obviously kind

987
00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:13,420
of wore down as the season went
on.

988
00:53:13,420 --> 00:53:16,900
But you know, getting a guy in
there for competition and a guy

989
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:19,060
that could be a proven starter,
like we'll see how the

990
00:53:19,220 --> 00:53:22,820
competition translates.
Same with Tutton, like I think

991
00:53:22,820 --> 00:53:24,900
it only helps your team in the
long run.

992
00:53:25,740 --> 00:53:27,660
Yeah, yeah.
And you talked about the the

993
00:53:27,660 --> 00:53:29,860
step up there and you talked
about the competition for him

994
00:53:29,860 --> 00:53:33,100
being being Duke in there and
when you talk about Duke and.

995
00:53:33,870 --> 00:53:37,390
FCS lineman and being able to do
something well with that last

996
00:53:37,390 --> 00:53:40,630
year, if they're targeting the
same type of prospects, that's

997
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:44,470
probably a pretty good sign.
So let's pivot a little bit to

998
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:46,710
talk a little conference
realignment.

999
00:53:47,870 --> 00:53:49,830
Definitely a big topic out there
right now.

1000
00:53:49,830 --> 00:53:53,830
We got a new round of
speculation with a CC media day

1001
00:53:53,830 --> 00:53:58,430
and then some more rumors about
FSU out there if the Hokies in

1002
00:53:58,430 --> 00:54:02,310
the near future were to move on
from the ACC to either the SCC

1003
00:54:02,310 --> 00:54:05,810
or the Big 10.
How do you feel it will impact

1004
00:54:05,810 --> 00:54:10,290
Hokies recruiting and as an
extension of that, their ability

1005
00:54:10,290 --> 00:54:13,970
to compete at a high level
against whoever their new

1006
00:54:13,970 --> 00:54:17,130
conference opponents may be?
Yeah, I mean, I think with

1007
00:54:17,130 --> 00:54:18,570
anything it's going to take
time.

1008
00:54:18,890 --> 00:54:22,450
Like, I've always thought that
Virginia Tech was going to enter

1009
00:54:23,010 --> 00:54:25,770
the Big 10, even dating back to
like 2016.

1010
00:54:26,050 --> 00:54:29,520
I always like that.
Seemed like Sands is you know,

1011
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,240
Memo, like just increasing the
school, getting the

1012
00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:34,520
capabilities.
Like I always thought they were

1013
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,920
destined to become a big 10 type
of school.

1014
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,480
And I definitely think like
you're you're you're starting to

1015
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,160
see, I kind of talked about it
with Glenwood Mac a little bit

1016
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,920
like you're investing in the
staff, you're investing in your

1017
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,320
facilities, you're investing in
these people, making sure

1018
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,880
everyone's accounted for.
Like the athletic department is

1019
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,000
really prioritizing football and
they're putting the money behind

1020
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,520
it.
And now you're talking about

1021
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,720
actually having a budget for it,
not just maxing it out, you

1022
00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:04,760
know, like getting the TV deals,
you're talking about playing

1023
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,560
bigger opponents.
I think it would greatly help

1024
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,930
recruiting and if if Pry can do
anything, give him a bigger

1025
00:55:11,930 --> 00:55:14,130
wallet and he's going to make it
happen, you know.

1026
00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:17,170
Sally, I think you, I think you
had a good one with with the

1027
00:55:17,170 --> 00:55:18,410
Glenwood Mac.
I think that's going.

1028
00:55:19,450 --> 00:55:22,170
To I don't know why, man.
When I seen his name, I was

1029
00:55:22,170 --> 00:55:25,010
like, that's it, you know, keeps
making me think of Fleetwood

1030
00:55:25,010 --> 00:55:27,010
Mac.
So I was like, Glenwood Mac.

1031
00:55:27,050 --> 00:55:28,930
Yeah, we got to, we got to throw
that in there.

1032
00:55:29,330 --> 00:55:30,490
But yeah, try to work it in
there.

1033
00:55:30,650 --> 00:55:32,690
Definitely, definitely.
But you know, talking about the

1034
00:55:32,690 --> 00:55:36,730
conference realignment and
things that we can do different

1035
00:55:36,730 --> 00:55:40,330
and we've done different.
You guys talk to a lot of high

1036
00:55:40,330 --> 00:55:44,730
school commits and recruits and
you talk a lot about nil.

1037
00:55:44,730 --> 00:55:48,690
I guess have you talked to any
of these guys about nil and how

1038
00:55:48,690 --> 00:55:51,610
to hokey stack up to maybe some
of the people that are

1039
00:55:51,970 --> 00:55:55,010
recruiting against us?
Yeah, I mean, it's definitely an

1040
00:55:55,010 --> 00:55:57,530
interesting topic and it
definitely comes up time to

1041
00:55:57,530 --> 00:55:59,320
time.
Like, it's funny whenever you

1042
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,000
read our articles on commitments
and whatever, it's always like,

1043
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,360
yeah, Virginia Tech's home and
blah, blah, blah.

1044
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,240
But you know, there are other
like, messages about it too

1045
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:09,760
that, you know, there's kind of
an understanding of it.

1046
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,920
I wouldn't say there's anything
like specifically that, you

1047
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,080
know, we're Privy to or anything
like that.

1048
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,520
But I think that Virginia Tech
is, at least, you know, the word

1049
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,760
I would use is competitive.
Like, they seem very competitive

1050
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:27,540
with other schools in terms of
NIL and just, yeah, All in all,

1051
00:56:27,540 --> 00:56:30,460
I don't think any of the
recruits are, You know, that's

1052
00:56:30,460 --> 00:56:32,780
not usually the first topic of
conversation.

1053
00:56:32,780 --> 00:56:35,460
Like, what am I getting once I
step on campus, you know?

1054
00:56:35,460 --> 00:56:38,460
But I do think they've made it
competitive.

1055
00:56:38,460 --> 00:56:41,940
They made strides there and I
think that, you know, is

1056
00:56:41,940 --> 00:56:43,660
helping.
But I think it's more of like a

1057
00:56:43,660 --> 00:56:47,860
cherry on top than, you know, a
legitimate factor for some of

1058
00:56:47,860 --> 00:56:51,460
these guys saying, OK, I want to
go to Virginia Tech, which I

1059
00:56:51,460 --> 00:56:53,460
think is a good thing overall,
to be honest.

1060
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,080
Yeah, definitely, definitely.
We got to get them to get some

1061
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,640
new uniforms now.
That's the last time we can get.

1062
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:02,000
We can get them across some new
uniforms then.

1063
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,240
I feel like we good.
I 100% agree.

1064
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:11,200
Let's see here.
Nope, Curtis disappeared.

1065
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,080
Yeah, Curtis disappeared, Said
The baby got sick.

1066
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:17,760
Get enough of me, man.
No, man, we can't never get

1067
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,400
enough of you.
He said he said baby got sick,

1068
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,290
so he's.
We going to roll this one

1069
00:57:23,290 --> 00:57:24,930
through.
So let's talk about this last

1070
00:57:24,930 --> 00:57:29,490
topic because something came
across today regarding NIL and a

1071
00:57:29,490 --> 00:57:34,170
little bit about the transfer
portal with the the bill from

1072
00:57:34,170 --> 00:57:38,610
Congress, the bipartisan bill
you know talking about

1073
00:57:38,610 --> 00:57:41,490
transferring one time after
three years some other

1074
00:57:41,490 --> 00:57:45,770
guardrails for NIL.
Is that do you think something

1075
00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:48,850
like that is a type of
legislation that would

1076
00:57:48,890 --> 00:57:50,850
ultimately?
Help the Hokies?

1077
00:57:50,850 --> 00:57:54,010
Or do you think it would work
against us in the long run

1078
00:57:54,010 --> 00:57:56,850
considering especially if we
stay in the ACC?

1079
00:57:57,610 --> 00:58:00,970
Yeah, I mean, it's difficult.
Again, it's kind of difficult to

1080
00:58:00,970 --> 00:58:04,130
judge at the outset, like
hearing about it.

1081
00:58:04,130 --> 00:58:08,090
I feel like it would benefit
Virginia Tech just because like

1082
00:58:08,730 --> 00:58:13,250
specifically for NIL, if you're
looking at the biggest winners

1083
00:58:13,250 --> 00:58:16,690
from it and you go and you can
check right now and go to, you

1084
00:58:16,690 --> 00:58:20,240
know, the top 25 teams and you
see a couple names in there that

1085
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,800
you're not used to seeing.
Like, those are the guys that

1086
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,680
have really figured out a way to
do it, right.

1087
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,960
And like with Virginia Tech,
like obviously they're

1088
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,640
recruiting better now.
You look at, you know, it's

1089
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,240
definitely helped them to a
certain extent, but they're

1090
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,560
still 34th right now.
They're not in the top 25 like

1091
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,640
last year they were in the 40s,
I think 45th overall or

1092
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,640
something.
So I definitely think it would

1093
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,840
help them in the long run kind
of equal to playing field in

1094
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,300
terms of you know when you're
when you're talking about all

1095
00:58:50,300 --> 00:58:52,780
these programs kind of competing
for the same thing.

1096
00:58:53,780 --> 00:58:56,860
Like I think it would help in
that regard, but I still think

1097
00:58:56,860 --> 00:58:59,940
it's early to tell like how it
would directly impact them.

1098
00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:01,420
I think they would be fine
either way.

1099
00:59:02,380 --> 00:59:05,660
From a let me ask this from a
player perspective, because

1100
00:59:06,020 --> 00:59:10,740
obviously with this bill comes a
handful of compromises on the

1101
00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:14,340
NIL front, but I'd say the
bigger compromise is on the

1102
00:59:14,340 --> 00:59:17,220
transfer portal front, where
other than.

1103
00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:21,300
A few certain situations, you'd
have to play three years with

1104
00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:24,660
your first institution before
you could transfer without

1105
00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:27,260
penalty.
Kind of gets us kind of back

1106
00:59:27,260 --> 00:59:31,460
into basically the framework
that we were operating under

1107
00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:35,420
before the transfer portal and
before the one time transfer

1108
00:59:35,420 --> 00:59:39,060
rule kind of came into play for
these institutions.

1109
00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:43,620
Just think about the players
you've spoken with, You think?

1110
00:59:44,350 --> 00:59:48,230
They would be more willing to
take some concessions on the NIL

1111
00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:50,550
front.
Or do you think they'd be

1112
00:59:50,550 --> 00:59:56,470
willing to sacrifice the lack of
freedom of mobility in order to

1113
00:59:56,470 --> 01:00:01,110
be able to maximize NIL to a
little bit more of a situation

1114
01:00:01,110 --> 01:00:02,630
with those new guardrails in
place?

1115
01:00:02,990 --> 01:00:04,390
Yeah, that's a really good
question.

1116
01:00:04,390 --> 01:00:08,030
I I would say that you know if
that if that were to be the case

1117
01:00:08,190 --> 01:00:11,950
first of all it's it seems like
so completely arbitrary like

1118
01:00:11,950 --> 01:00:14,190
just putting a time frame on you
know someone.

1119
01:00:14,190 --> 01:00:17,190
But I understand that's the old
days and now we're like kind of

1120
01:00:17,190 --> 01:00:21,190
caught up to current standards
and you know portal madness all

1121
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:23,910
the time.
But I feel like, you know that

1122
01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:27,110
just makes recruiting tougher
and it makes NIL that much more

1123
01:00:27,110 --> 01:00:29,510
important because if you're
going to stay at a place you

1124
01:00:29,510 --> 01:00:31,550
want to make sure you're taken
care of whether you're on,

1125
01:00:31,790 --> 01:00:34,950
especially if you're not on the
field, you know to to make sure

1126
01:00:34,950 --> 01:00:37,390
those promises are up are up
kept.

1127
01:00:37,390 --> 01:00:41,460
And so I definitely think that
would become a bigger topic of

1128
01:00:41,460 --> 01:00:43,940
conversation.
And to your point maybe that's

1129
01:00:43,940 --> 01:00:47,820
where maybe it hurts.
Virginia Tech, you know, I would

1130
01:00:47,820 --> 01:00:49,100
say they're competitive right
now.

1131
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:51,740
But if everyone has equal
playing fields, you know, you're

1132
01:00:51,740 --> 01:00:55,540
really going to have to start to
target the Brody Adams of the

1133
01:00:55,540 --> 01:00:58,980
world early on and and and try
to make sure that you're good

1134
01:00:58,980 --> 01:01:01,660
with them and then you know you
move on to your next one.

1135
01:01:01,660 --> 01:01:06,290
But yeah, overall, I I
definitely think, you know, it

1136
01:01:06,290 --> 01:01:09,530
would cause more players to
think about longerterm futures

1137
01:01:09,530 --> 01:01:13,890
and, you know, kind of making
sure that they keep their NIL

1138
01:01:13,890 --> 01:01:18,690
intact.
Yeah, I just was looking at

1139
01:01:18,690 --> 01:01:20,330
that.
I was like, you know, I was

1140
01:01:20,330 --> 01:01:22,610
trying to think back to my
playing days and like if if I

1141
01:01:22,610 --> 01:01:25,770
had something in place like that
would would mobility matter more

1142
01:01:25,770 --> 01:01:28,130
to me or being able to to make
the money?

1143
01:01:28,130 --> 01:01:31,370
And obviously that's a different
conversation probably depending

1144
01:01:31,370 --> 01:01:33,930
on who you are and where you
come from and and everything

1145
01:01:33,930 --> 01:01:37,670
like that, but.
You know they're they're talking

1146
01:01:37,790 --> 01:01:41,950
you know I'm always I'm I'm big
on player mobility and and

1147
01:01:41,950 --> 01:01:44,870
player choice so I've always
been kind of that advocate.

1148
01:01:45,230 --> 01:01:47,550
So looking at it, I'm like, all
right, so you you're putting a

1149
01:01:47,550 --> 01:01:50,430
three-year on on the player.
Are we going to put five years

1150
01:01:50,430 --> 01:01:52,830
on the coaches unless their
contract runs out or they get

1151
01:01:52,830 --> 01:01:56,070
fired Like what what what are we
doing here.

1152
01:01:56,070 --> 01:01:58,870
So that that was my first
thought.

1153
01:01:58,870 --> 01:02:00,350
When I saw that pop, I was like,
all right.

1154
01:02:00,350 --> 01:02:02,870
So we we going to start doing,
you know, is this just for the

1155
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:04,230
players?
Are we going to, you know?

1156
01:02:04,610 --> 01:02:07,490
You'll talk about coaches.
Yeah, you know it's going to be

1157
01:02:07,490 --> 01:02:09,850
just for the players.
If I'm going to play, I'm taking

1158
01:02:09,850 --> 01:02:12,010
the money.
Give me the money.

1159
01:02:12,170 --> 01:02:15,090
I want the money wherever I
choose.

1160
01:02:15,290 --> 01:02:18,290
I chose that because I'm happy.
But if I can get a little bit of

1161
01:02:18,290 --> 01:02:21,970
fiddles while I'm now hook me
up, that's just me.

1162
01:02:23,770 --> 01:02:26,890
I kind of agree.
Yes, man.

1163
01:02:26,890 --> 01:02:28,530
We've had a great time tonight,
man.

1164
01:02:28,530 --> 01:02:32,570
We appreciate you coming in and
giving us your expertise.

1165
01:02:32,570 --> 01:02:34,010
We know that you're going to
work hard.

1166
01:02:34,540 --> 01:02:37,580
When you get back to the office
to get those guys to bump some

1167
01:02:37,580 --> 01:02:40,140
rankings up for us, man, we're
just trying to get the top 25.

1168
01:02:41,100 --> 01:02:42,740
That's all.
We ain't asking for much.

1169
01:02:42,780 --> 01:02:46,060
We're creeping, we're creeping
on the top 25 in terms of

1170
01:02:46,060 --> 01:02:47,940
average.
So I like that.

1171
01:02:47,940 --> 01:02:50,660
I like we're treating up on
that, that that's nice.

1172
01:02:50,660 --> 01:02:53,140
That's really nice.
I'll make some calls, don't

1173
01:02:53,140 --> 01:02:53,940
worry.
Thank you.

1174
01:02:54,220 --> 01:02:56,100
Thank you, man.
That's all we wanted to hear.

1175
01:02:56,300 --> 01:02:59,380
That's all we wanted to hear.
We went to the good guy name, I

1176
01:02:59,500 --> 01:03:01,460
mean.
You know, your dad did not name

1177
01:03:01,460 --> 01:03:04,020
you that cool name for you to be
and be an asshole to people.

1178
01:03:05,070 --> 01:03:07,630
I'm not the superhero, so no
promises.

1179
01:03:07,630 --> 01:03:09,790
But I am the good guy, so I'll
put in a word.

1180
01:03:09,790 --> 01:03:11,510
There you go.
We appreciate you, brother.

1181
01:03:11,790 --> 01:03:13,710
Yep.
Well, we appreciate it.

1182
01:03:13,710 --> 01:03:15,350
But hey, it's been a blast
tonight.

1183
01:03:15,350 --> 01:03:20,150
As always, every time you come
on it's a good time and we

1184
01:03:20,150 --> 01:03:23,430
really appreciate you taking the
time to come on and chop it up

1185
01:03:23,430 --> 01:03:26,550
with us and give us some some
new information and take your

1186
01:03:26,550 --> 01:03:29,110
victory lap a little bit on what
you talked about in March.

1187
01:03:29,980 --> 01:03:32,500
Yeah, feels good and obviously
always a blast.

1188
01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:35,020
So looking forward to the next
time we got to do it again.

1189
01:03:35,940 --> 01:03:37,100
Yes, Sir.
Yes, Sir.

1190
01:03:37,140 --> 01:03:39,780
That's going to wrap up this
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1191
01:03:39,780 --> 01:03:43,660
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1192
01:03:43,660 --> 01:03:47,460
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1193
01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:51,660
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1204
01:04:27,810 --> 01:04:32,530
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