Stretch Run

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close out there.
But we got a, we got a big one

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tonight.
We got a big one tonight.

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It's going to be going to be
fun.

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It's like an all the Doom and
Gloom, not all doom and gloom

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gonna be a lot of fun.
Someone we've been talking about

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getting on the Pod for quite a
while now.

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And you know, let's sort of
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Introduce him here.
Basically, this guy, young guy,

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great writer for Sons of
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key play, and a Virginia Tech
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We're excited to have him on.
And tonight we bring on Shelton

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Moss to talk a little bit of
everything with us Shelton.

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Good evening, sir, how are you
today?

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Hello gentleman.
Is it's a pleasure to be on.

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I wish I was in a slightly
better mood after Hokies win,

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but tough loss tonight.
I'm sure we'll talk about it but

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still it's good to be on.
Am always happy to talk with you

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guys.
Yeah yeah, tough one.

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The clothes out there, there was
that little run that 9-0 run

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that took a game where you know,
we were right there the whole

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way shooting well and then just
had a tough time getting to go

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in the basket there at the end
and really a rough night on

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defense as well.
Real mad indecent and I mean

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I've been looking at Stats here
but they shoot Miami shot. 66

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percent from Boon for Cooper's,
very limited Yeah, 42 years in

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front 3, you know, over 80% from
the line.

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They outrebounded the Hokies
slight Edge.

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The turnovers that were at
10:46, not a big deal, but the

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rebounds to me, were the real
killer tonight.

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I mean, you're talking plus, 64
them in the category and and

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that in this, those three threes
in that consecutive stretch Tech

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goes up.
One off of free-throw.

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I think it was poked, eat that
hit it or Basile.

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And they hit the free throw her
off because I can't remember

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either.
It's, I'll put the kid to bed

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while watching and stuff
sometimes seriously.

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But and then it's like, Bam,
Bam, Bam.

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And I think it's just a sitting
in the first half to I was

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putting another child to bed.
It's 7:44 and I come back and

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we're down, like, six, and it's
like, she shall.

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Let's just talk about this game
and just some stuff in general.

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What is it about these
stretches?

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Where we See out the gate hot
tonight out the gate hot 16:8.

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And then the next thing, you
know, it's this five to seven

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minutes of cold.
You know, what do you see for

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that when you're as you've been
watching this team all year in

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your, for the frustrations with
it?

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Yeah, I mean I try not to
overreact too much just because,

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you know, it is college
basketball.

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Like it's a game of runs, you're
going to go on hot streaks,

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you're going to go and fix and
that just happens.

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But I don't know.
I mean, obviously Mike runs a

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very motion oriented often so
So, you know, sometimes maybe

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the ball gets stuck, sometimes
they're not, you know, running

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the actions, the way they need
to be there.

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Not fight through screens thing.
Like, you know, there's a lot of

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there's a lot of detail that
goes into it and sometimes the

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execution isn't there.
So you know we shoot a lot of

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Threes I don't think I don't
want to show you as many threes

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as we did you know last year and
I don't think we rely on June 23

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as much people think.
But look if you're going to

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shoot the threes and you know
sometimes you're not going to

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fall so you gotta find other
ways to score.

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I think bacilli physically has
been an issue this season.

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I think it's been better the
last Games, as we saw ACC player

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of the week this week this week
under there, but for the most

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part, you know, I think they
they kind of missile Uma just

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kind of what he was able to do
in the post last season.

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Not quite the same player
facility that is as number 22.

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So I mean, you know, it was good
tonight.

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I mean, you can't complain.
I think I saw a stat on Twitter

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that Tech was the first team in
the country this season, to lose

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a game where they shot.
50-40-90, meaning 50% in the

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floor, 40 percent from three any
percent from the free-throw

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line.
And so they were the first in

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the country to lose a game this
season shooting that split.

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So I just, you know, the snake
bit doesn't even begin to

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describe Advantage.
Going to talk to you.

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What are the luck metrics for
this?

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Okay, I mean, I can, I can check
in the last time I checked

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Giving great closing out games
at played, well down the

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stretch.
I don't know if it's so much a

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coaching issue as maybe it is an
execution issue, but this team

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just can't close out the the
close games.

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Yeah, they definitely struggled.
I mean, whether it's sometimes a

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cold streak, sometimes sloppy,
passing, an execution on the

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offensive end sometimes, you
know, just a bad rotation on

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defense and they are giving up
some big open shots, two guys

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that are at that moment.
Hot like mac was tonight.

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So it's just kind of been a
little bit of everything at

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those.
Key moments of the games but

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let's turn back the clock a
little bit.

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Here we got a blowout win
against Syracuse on Saturday.

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Where do you think this TEAM
stands after Syracuse after

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Miami at this moment?
In terms of chances to make the

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NCAA tournament?
First, I think this loss

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tonight, definitely changes the
complexion considerably.

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I know one game isn't, you know,
the two critical but you know

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coming to this game II was
looking at a site called bar

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torvik, was just some in see, a
projection simulations and they

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gave us a 43 percent chance of
making before this game.

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So with the Miami loss, maybe
that's down to like, you know,

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37:36 somewhere in that range.
I think that's pretty

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reasonable.
The problem is, you're 38 in the

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ACC, it's a down year for the
league.

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You know, you've got you, I
mean, you have to beat like, you

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gave Buster win on Like, you
cannot lose that game and make

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the tournament, unless you want
to, you know, get an at large

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again and try to try to win the
whole thing.

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But, you know, they got to win
that game.

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I mean, they would have to go.
What is it like 9 and 19 into?

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I don't know how many games I
have left.

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I guess I got they got names
laughs now.

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So maybe like 7 and 28 and one.
I mean that's that's a really

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tough ass.
So you know, like I said, I try

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not to overreact to a single
game but it's like it's more.

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So the fact that you you started
the season 3 and 8 and put

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yourself in such a tough spot
rather than just this one loss

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and I mean my name is a good
team, you know they're going

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Play good basketball.
They got shot, they got shot

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makers, they got Playmakers, but
it's just without you started.

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So Pearl.
You put yourself in such a bad

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position and that seems to be a
recurring theme with this team.

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All right, so here let me let me
let me let me preface this shit,

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Sheldon, we were talking before.
You hopped on with this in

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Bryant said beat UVA.
Then we have to BBC Notre Dame,

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Georgia Tech pit Louisville,
Florida, State at 7:00.

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So So are you saying like either
you have to beat Miami or do

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along with you be a win Saturday
to have any shot?

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You gazing must.
I just don't see how you can

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lose that game and make it
because like even if you you

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know, even if you I mean if you
lose it like you have to go like

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now to know the rest of the way,
and that's not even a guarantee

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to get you in.
So I do like, you know, I just

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think you have to win that game
and after that, you know, that's

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gonna be really tough game.
Like if they beat Duke and UVA,

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I mean, they're in business, but
that's it.

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It's really tough.
Ask I just again, it just goes

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back to the bad start.
You can't spend Seth every year

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and expect to be in a good spot.
Yeah, definitely, definitely,

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can't dig a hole in January,
like, we've done back-to-back

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seasons and expect anyone to do
any favors.

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And I will say, you know, the
committee might give a little

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bit of credence this year more
than a gave last year, just

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because of Couture being out and
looking at at that over that

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four-game stretch but I still
think we still dug ourselves too

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much of a hole at this point
where we really have to almost

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be perfect the rest of the wave.
Say for maybe one game to really

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feel like you're secure heading
into that selection.

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Absolutely.
Yeah.

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And and, and to your point, I
just to make a quick point, you

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know, also the non-conference
schedule like non-conference

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resume was awesome.
I mean, they beat, you know,

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Penn State.
They beat Oklahoma State

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obviously UNC was conference
game but, you know, back in back

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in December, that's why it's so
disappointing because if it, if

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tech went 11 and 9 with a couple
of good wins, this common

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scheduled a issue in the
tournament with their anonymous,

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But they just, they just fell
apart.

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Stop.
It's not like it was last year

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where the non-conference hurt
the team it this year and

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actually boosted it.
But let's be honest about that

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non-conference.
In some of those early games, I

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mean, what 12:11, and 112 and
one in non-conference, but there

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were cracks there, they were,
you know, we saw it to us it was

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always the three-point shooting
because I told Brian, I said we

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can't live and die shooting 29
28 percent from point 35. 5:36,

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there's a chance.
Was there anything else you

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noticed in those early wins?
You know the Penn State when the

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win over ODU the Oklahoma State
win.

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Was there anything you noticed?
At istic Ali that said that

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keeps trending.
What's going to happen is going

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to happen.
Yeah, so statistically I think

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the three-point shooting was
abnormally bad like bad against

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in-state is about against ODU.
I was a couple weeks ago, so I

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get some numbers where I found
that Virginia Tech's current

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three-point percentage, as a
team would ranked the lowest of

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any Mae Kang team since 2011.
So, I think that kind of says a

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lot like they're just not
clicking for whatever reason.

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And I don't know if it's maybe
like oh you know lesser quality

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of looks or are they just not
good to get the ball to the

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right spot?
But yeah, just three point

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shooting for every It's not
perfect, there's not been there.

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I know it's kind of obviously
improved the last few games.

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I'm sure they'll get the rise as
the season progresses but yeah.

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Just the weird the weird thing
tuning you know Padilla's kind

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of kind of fell off a little bit
and yeah I just I never really

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honestly I never could have
imagined that losing Hunter

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Couture would have had such a
drastic impact you know I know

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it's not it's not a me to make
excuses but it's like we start

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the season 11 21 and he was 45
games, all five games without

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you know, a guard like Couture
who granted, you know, he's not.

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But he's a good player but he's
not like you know MVP of the

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league or anything.
I mean you lose all those games

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with him.
Plants just completely falls

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apart.
You know, you just can't beat

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any of those teams.
It's like, you know what

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happened?
Like I think it kind of shows

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the value has, but it's also
like, man.

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Like what why are we?
So, depending on one player

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that's kind of what it's kind
of, what I want to know.

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Yeah, it's interesting because I
mean we've had either rotations

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where Hunters went off the floor
in the past that hasn't impacted

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as much as it does.
It seems like with this rotation

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this season, you know, he
missed, you know, a decent

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number of games, Stretch, what
is it?

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Do you think about his skill set
that this team kind of leans on

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and what it was missing when he
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Well, he's a great green Setter,
he's a great cutter, you know, I

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do film reviews all the time for
the key play and when I'm going

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back and watch the game, it's
like almost every single time

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that Tech runs a beautiful
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action could towards in the
middle of it, you know, because

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he's the one send the screens
and there is a very much, you

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know, a precise art to screen
setting the way Cuts another

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basketball, the way moves
without the basketball, the way

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passes.
And my tongue said the way he

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receives the ball, another kind
of money detail there, but the

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way it catches the ball which
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kind of a And then also is
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good Defender.
He has good footwork.

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He's hard to you know kind of
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doesn't feel very much.
She doesn't bite for dumb shot.

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Fakes and then the shooting
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he's a guy that can go off for
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He's a, he's a good shooter but
also a high volume should, which

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is a very rare, I mean, shooting
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volume and I think that's, you
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the country if you looked into
his attempts.

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So, I mean, he just does
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things and then the things you
See in the box score and the

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things you don't see in the box.
Or I mean it's just you just

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does everything.
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It's true.
He does everything in his

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defense.
I mean you could probably tell

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this to me, I mean how many
where does he as far as taking

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charges this year?
Even with four games missed, it

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felt like the early part of the
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Every game he got two or three
charges taken, which is crazy.

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But again, that's great
position.

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Defense, that's great being in
the right spot.

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And so many times just doing
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general is the other team now is
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That way.
So it's going to be easier for

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the rest of the team because
they know they're not going to

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attack him that way.
He's already drawn a charge,

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they can't get good shots off.
So a lot of easy things.

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Let's pivot to something else,
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Let's talk about minutes now.
Darius Maddox Miss.

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Tonight's game as he did
Saturday's game.

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So he's not been in a while but
kind of starting with the Duke

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game.
We saw his Minix get

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significantly cut.
He only had six minutes in that

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you game, where kid and Collins
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bench, got 20 and 22 Petit was
at six.

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And before that, though he had
been he'd always been up there

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and for some reason, this year
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for this some reason this year
he just could not find it on.

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Do you think?
Is he going to come back?

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If you'd heard anything, is it?
You know, is he coming back?

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Is everything okay?
Because I think that's the first

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warmers is he's not there if
he's there, you could say, maybe

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he's sick and hurt something.
He's just not on the bench and,

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you know, we all want to make
sure he's okay before anything

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else.
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So I know absolutely nothing
about his status for The Growers

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who are joining the team.
I know it's a family matter of

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seems pretty serious.
If we're to take Mike young at

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his word which I will as far as
its playtime.

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But you mentioned I think if but
Maddox is that he is not a very

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physical driver.
He has, he has trouble sort of

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attacking the rim because he's
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frame, and just doesn't really
seem to be.

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No, just really know what he's
doing all the time, kind of

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awkward when he wants to finish.
So it is not driving the

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basketball.
Then he has to shoot threes, but

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his three-point shot is in there
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So instead, he sell In for
mid-range jumpers, which are

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kind of an inefficient shot.
And I was he said some but it's

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not the best shot.
It's not the shot you one, which

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is why if you look at you know
the analyst has his room and

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free rate is down a lot.
You want to be shooting, ideally

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shots, the rim and shots from
three and he's not getting those

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as much as his counterparts, you
know, defensively.

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I think he's been kind of, you
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So so but you see with Collins?
I mean MJ Collins is a guy that

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you know was six or four fish
athletic, you know, very

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athletic Wing, who can get to
the cup, occasionally plays good

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defense, I think so, Why he's
been playing an edge, I think

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Mike young has given him the
green light because he's been so

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good as a freshman on both ends
of the court.

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And I just think with Maddox you
know it's I think his role

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ideally this is just my opinion.
I think it role would be better

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suited to come off the bench as
well.

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Like a spot-up shooter type
which was his role last season.

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You know, just come off give
like maybe 15, 20 minutes off

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the bench max.
You hit a few 3s would be like a

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spell, you know, spot-up
shooter, catch and shoots have a

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guy.
I just don't know.

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Game is really built to Be, you
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at the ACC level.
I just, I just think he's he

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just doesn't really have that in
his game.

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Yeah, and it worked in spots as
we went down the stretch run

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last year, especially in the
tournament.

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But it seems like sustaining
that over the full course of a

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season.
He hasn't been able to get it

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done in that role and I
definitely agree with you.

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I think kind of a guy you bring
Off the Bench to be a spot

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shooter.
A guy you put in the lineup when

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you want, you know, your
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but maybe not that full time.
Started that we seen at the

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start of the year.
Let's talk a little bit more.

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I know we got your kids had some
good minutes poteete had some

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good minutes tonight.
Do we look at Maddox?

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Are we kind of going to get some
of the minutes replaced in

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aggregate with those players
with Collins with with kid, on

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the court as well?
And I yeah I think they've done

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a man as well.
Yeah.

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Actually came in is a good guy
to bring up because I thought he

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played us all game can Syracuse
you know Miss hey miss his first

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few shots you know which kinds
but you know he handed a very

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good end of the game on a very
good note.

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Play good defense.
Got a few rebounds, have some

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assess.
I just, you know, right now, you

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know, college is a, got our,
excuse me.

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Yeah.
Camden rather came in is a guy

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that hasn't played college
basketball essentially ever

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before the season, because he
was hurt last year at Memphis

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and his first season.
So he's sort of like a red shirt

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freshman.
Ali or I mean, you might as well

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say true freshman because he
really hasn't played much at all

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or been able to, you know,
practice much at all, I like

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him, you know.
It kind of has that like sort of

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small forward, power forward,
type role.

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Ideally, if you can work on a
three-point shot, that'd be

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great.
Because I think that's where

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most of his value would lie.
And, you know, talk about, you

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know, kid and petite.
You know, it, depending on what

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the matchups are, if you want to
go big and put those guys in,

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so, I think, you know, the
depth, the depth puts forward is

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fine.
It's just, you know, when you're

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missing Maddox, obviously and
then having to play college as a

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freshman as good as he is.
Is you're going to kind of go

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through those Growing Pains?
It's just it's a tough situation

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sometimes.
So I think the wing depth is

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really hurt the Hokies this
season and it's gotten better

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but that's probably the one area
where I'd look at and say you

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know the the plate is really
holding this team back.

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Absolutely.
All right let's pivot next to

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this guy.
Alright, so it took forever for

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him to play and then he plays
and we're excited or cited

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against it when he played in
that Syracuse game.

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First time we saw him Rodney
rice and then he gets hurt.

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He breaks his finger.
For all of us is just like this,

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like oh my gosh, but let me just
ask you because I'm sure you

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reviewed a lot of his tape in
recruiting being down there.

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You know you've seen him play
how How much of an impact you

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think that skill set would have
on this roster?

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Let's say he was healthy from
Jump Street back in November.

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Well a lot.
I mean I will say you know I

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didn't watch it kind of hits one
high school but just you know,

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seeing how you placing it in
practice, you need to kind of

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super long and athletic.
He's a versatile playmaker.

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He can sort of you know, beat
you off the bounce.

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I think the one thing about the
mechanic system is that he

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typically recruits, you know,
guys who can shoot guys who are

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skilled over those long athletic
slasher types, which is more of

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the Biryani rice model, you
know, sort of what dearest Max

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ideally would be prices guy when
you have the extra component of

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like a slasher who just get to
the cup and and score at will, I

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mean that provides so much even
if it's only in a bench trial,

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like 10 to 10 to 12 minutes a
game.

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I mean, that's, you know, that
provides a ton especially,

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because he's a point guard.
So radically he would be giving

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Sean Padula more minutes on the
bench to rest, and then you can

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slide him, you know, at the one
played guitar with them

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essentially, because I don't
think that or I just don't like

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him.
You know, being here like, you

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know, secondary point guard role
I just I don't like his, you

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know, his vision necessarily
worse.

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I don't think as like the speed
or the handles to be effective

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in that role.
Obviously is a shooting guard,

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that's what he is.
So dealing with race, you could

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just have him play the back of 1
which would you know, give give

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padule-- some more rest and have
Couture and everybody else

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playing their normal positions.
So yeah, it's definitely been a

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big loss.
I mean, like you thought, you

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know, Curtis you alluded to the
fact that Tech was alone in one

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and non conference and that was
without any rice.

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So it's not like this team is,
you know, desperate I'm needing

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a guy like that, but it would
provide a lot of boost, I think

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a conference play especially
once he kind of gets his legs

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going.
Yeah.

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And when we look at this, we've
seen so many different kinds of

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versions of this hokey team this
year between Couture being out

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in some of the forward and
Center rotations that they've

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had what version, what lineup,
what what, ideal playstyle?

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What game, what?
Yeah, what yeah, what game

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showed the kind of the mold of
what, the Hokies need to play

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over this the stretch run of the
season.

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So they can Potentially secure a
spot in the tournament without

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having to rely on running the
table in Greensboro.

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Yeah, I mean if you're talking
about a specific game I would

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say you know I would say
Syracuse but that's little bit

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different because of the you
know the defense they run the

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kind of attacked a lot
differently but just looking at

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the you know, the games here.
I mean you know, Oklahoma State

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I thought was actually a really
impressive win because their

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team similar to Texas.
Very big physical, they play

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good defense, not the best
offensive team, but Tech won

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that game playing very poorly.
I think they shot.

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What are they shoot?
You know, 45 percentage and

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everything shot. 35% 43, which
one very good.

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But They graded on a five-point
against good team on a neutral

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site like that.
That's type of wind where I was

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like, okay, this team is legit
like, they're better than last

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year.
You know, didn't quite turn out

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that way but, you know, the UNC
win look good.

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Obviously, they didn't have
baked cod, so I kind of played

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it but, you know, they took a
another top 25 team in my

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opinion, 1 by 8 against them and
then Dukas, well, I mean, I

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still think Duke is good, you
know, after the Buddha was lost

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to to the Hokies they beat
Georgia Tech by 43.

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So, So, you know, that's team in
my opinion that is still kind of

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in that top 25 range even though
they're not ranked, but Tech was

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able to beat them.
They shot well from three, they

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play, you know, they got enough
defense of stuff from the used

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to and they were building his
about shaming Philip house key

441
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,900
you know, 7-foot who handles the
ball, the fitguard.

442
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,300
Yeah.
Mark Mitchell 06:48 being

443
00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:20,900
guarded by him to Collins like
that's you know, that's a pretty

444
00:22:20,900 --> 00:22:23,000
big disparity there but they
were they were able to get the

445
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,900
win.
So I mean just stuff like that.

446
00:22:24,900 --> 00:22:27,000
You know when you shoot you the
ball, you just get enough

447
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,600
defensive stops.
You know, I think this is a team

448
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,600
that it's never like, we are
never going to play great

449
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,500
defense under Can it just has to
be that sort of like, borderline

450
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:37,900
competent level, where we can
get enough stops.

451
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,000
So we're still friends, can, you
know, can can give us a chance.

452
00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:44,500
So, your games, like that,
Oklahoma State UNC, I mean, even

453
00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:46,800
the dating game, as well as
probably much more accurate

454
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,300
reflection of what this team can
be, but it just hasn't really

455
00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:51,200
materialized in conference play.
All right?

456
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,200
I got one more question before
we put it over to women's Hoops

457
00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:58,700
of the losses, which one pissed
you off the most, which one?

458
00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:00,900
Why were you sitting there?
I'm going to bring it to the

459
00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:02,100
head a little bit before we got
on.

460
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,400
Um, did you literally finish the
game?

461
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,700
Whether you're a castle or
sitting there in your apartment?

462
00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:09,400
You just like I want a drink cuz
I'm freaking angry.

463
00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:10,700
Like what the hell just
happened?

464
00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:15,600
Which game which game I would
say, based on how it played out?

465
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,000
Okay, this is my honest answer,
it was BC.

466
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,600
It was not for not for any
particular reason except for the

467
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,200
fact that I just hate losing to
that team because we cannot beat

468
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,800
them.
We cannot beat them at that damn

469
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,500
building.
What is the kanji for him only?

470
00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:35,900
General cannot win on that.
By the way, I mean, did you see

471
00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:41,400
their win tonight?
I mean, I don't know what it is.

472
00:23:41,900 --> 00:24:38,000
I mean, it doesn't make sense.
We all do.

473
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:40,700
And by the way, we're going to
talk football schedule later

474
00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:44,300
with you.
So we were so happy when they

475
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,800
ditch divisions, right?
So happy we don't have to go to

476
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,800
PC anymore.
Damn ACC.

477
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,500
Hey, one more year and you're
going to go on the road to be

478
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:56,400
see one last time, we'll talk
about that later.

479
00:24:56,900 --> 00:24:58,700
I brought let's go over to
women's hoops man.

480
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:04,300
Um let's just be realistic.
This is a super talented Hokies

481
00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:08,000
women's team.
They I've dropped a couple

482
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,600
against similar ranked against
Notre Dame.

483
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,800
There is there is no shame in
losing to Notre Dame but the

484
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,200
Elegance Miami that one that one
irritates me because it's like

485
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,500
we know we're better than them.
Then lost the dude.

486
00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:25,200
Last week Dixit stop pointing
there's no ill will in that but

487
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,200
what's the realistic ceiling in
your opinion under Kenny Brooks

488
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,300
this year?
How far can this team go?

489
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,900
Yeah, so when it comes to
postseason basketball, I try not

490
00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:38,100
to talk in terms of ceiling,
just because I know that the

491
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:41,300
term is so random and so I don't
want to define success or

492
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:45,500
failure based on, you know, very
specific individual outcomes.

493
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,500
I will say that if I'm just
judging based on Talent, like if

494
00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:50,700
I were to run like a thousand
simulations that this season and

495
00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:53,300
some sort of computer model, I
think that seemed absolutely has

496
00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:56,300
a talent to go to the Sweet 16
and I think they could make

497
00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:58,200
Italy day.
Now, final fours are different,

498
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,200
it's a different ballgame
because the talent distribution,

499
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,600
women's basketball is really
Much more so than men's toward

500
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,600
of that sort of at the top, like
he got obviously the Yukons and

501
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,500
the South Carolina is like, if
you just look like this, those

502
00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:11,900
things are so much you know,
farther ahead than every other

503
00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:13,800
team.
Whereas I think in men's you

504
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,200
have a you have a little bit
more parity.

505
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,700
So I, you know, I don't want to
Define them too much, but, you

506
00:26:18,708 --> 00:26:21,300
know, if they can make a Deep
Run in the ACC tournament, it

507
00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:23,600
certainly cable.
If they can get to the Sweet 16,

508
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,100
I would say, I would say this
Curtis, they have to win the

509
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:29,500
first weekend because because we
are in women's basketball if you

510
00:26:29,508 --> 00:26:32,100
don't, if you don't know, you
host the Regionals.

511
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,700
Yeah.
Yeah, whatever you call it, the

512
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:36,800
first round, the second round.
So there are 64 the round of 32

513
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,100
you host at at the, at the upper
seed.

514
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:41,400
So if text hosting that, like,
you got to win that.

515
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,200
That's no.
Excuse.

516
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,300
You're playing at home, you're
playing.

517
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:47,400
It's, you know, probably like a
7-seater, you know, 15 seed.

518
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,600
So you just get, you got to win
that first weekend laws.

519
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,000
Do I goes, Florida Gulf Coast
and makes like, 600 threes or

520
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,100
shoot, 60% from three?
I mean, yeah.

521
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:05,800
Against some of the tougher
opponents they played to really

522
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,800
play strong for three quarters,
and then kind of fading that

523
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,900
forth.
Have you observed, anything?

524
00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:13,200
That would kind of explain you
why?

525
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,700
This team may fade a little bit
down the stretch in those games?

526
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000
Yeah.
So I haven't paid as much

527
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,600
scrupulous attention to the
women's team has have the men's,

528
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,800
but I will say, just from what
I've converted kind of observed,

529
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,900
what?
Met Brooks won't make it there

530
00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:29,300
at the most athletic team that's
just, not the way they're built

531
00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:31,800
their Biltmore in like high IQ
players, who, you know, who

532
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,800
know, who know the game, who can
move the ball, that's kind of

533
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,400
their MO.
And I think sometimes when that

534
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,700
happens, if you're not really
like athletically dominant your

535
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:42,200
sometimes, you're going to run
two opponents where you can, you

536
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,600
know, kind of outwork you
physically, and I think

537
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,000
sometimes that's, that's
happened to them.

538
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,300
I'm just in terms of you know,
the shot creation, you know,

539
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,000
dribble penetration to the
railroad stuff is kind of based

540
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,100
on athleticism.
So if the shots aren't falling

541
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:58,200
occasionally, you're going to
run into some misses and also,

542
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,400
you know, Liz keightley is very
that draw so much attention,

543
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,600
like she will get double team,
she'll get Triple team

544
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,200
sometimes, and that's a lot
harder to pass out of than it

545
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,400
looks.
I mean, she's got a lot better

546
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,500
with that, you know, in terms of
her her IQ, her Awareness on the

547
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:13,800
curtain on the court knowing
where the double teams are

548
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,700
coming from.
But she's if teams are targeting

549
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:20,000
her You know, that means that
other players have to be on the

550
00:28:20,008 --> 00:28:21,900
top of their game.
And if they're not, then it

551
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,400
becomes really hard because
it's, you know, not easy to

552
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,200
neutralize her.
If you're double-teaming her

553
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,200
triple, triple teaming her on
every possession.

554
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,800
You've got to have some ball up.
That's just, that's just how it

555
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,500
works.
So it's kind of been coming on.

556
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:35,400
Other players to serve, step up
and sometimes, you know, it

557
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,900
doesn't happen.
Look like the way you should.

558
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:39,100
But that being said, there's
still a top 20 in the country,

559
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:41,100
in my opinion.
So I think, I think they'll be

560
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:43,600
fun.
I think you've already answered

561
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,000
this next question.
We have, you already talked

562
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,300
about.
We already talked about you

563
00:28:47,308 --> 00:28:50,600
know, tournament success I mean
is the disappointment

564
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:55,600
essentially not getting out of
the first weekend at home Yes,

565
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,100
mainly, because we're hosting
like, you know, you got your

566
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:01,200
home crowd with you and I think
ideally you'd like to see Tech

567
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,000
be three or four C at worst.
I right now, they're ranked 13.

568
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,400
So they're going to be a three
or four seed ideal first, just

569
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,700
that nothing goes, terribly
wrong throughout the at the end

570
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:14,600
of the year.
So you're playing a 14 seed to

571
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,200
start and then you would get
probably the I guess would be

572
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,900
the 611 winter after that.
So I mean those those should do

573
00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:22,400
winnable games again on your
home court where you're going to

574
00:29:22,408 --> 00:29:24,500
be favored.
So definitely they, I would love

575
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:26,600
to see this.
Steam make it out of the out of

576
00:29:26,608 --> 00:29:30,900
the first weekend.
Find anything else.

577
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:32,700
Go ahead?
Yeah, I will say, I definitely

578
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:34,700
agree with that.
Yeah, I think the, you know, the

579
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:38,200
mark of failure would be okay.
Well, back-to-back first-round

580
00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:39,600
exits.
I was especially early,

581
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,200
especially when you're hosting,
so that would definitely be a

582
00:29:42,208 --> 00:29:45,200
disappointment.
Let's flip it over, though.

583
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,800
Let's flip it over to Hokies
wrestling, which we know you

584
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,200
have been sending.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

585
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,700
We've seen you reporting live
from the field.

586
00:29:55,700 --> 00:30:01,500
There's yeah.
Let's run it back to NC State

587
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,400
first.
Let's run it back to NC State.

588
00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:09,300
5143 in Castle.
Big-time atmosphere for

589
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:10,100
wrestling.
What was that?

590
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:13,700
Like, it was awesome, man.
You know, I went with my track,

591
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:16,700
I went with my boys outdated
Cunningham and a few others and

592
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:18,900
we just had a good time.
I think wrestling is a very

593
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,500
underrated college sport.
I would say pound for pound.

594
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,700
It is probably one of the more
energetic.

595
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:27,300
Atmospheres of any sport you
ever see just because it gets

596
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:30,500
into it, you know, when two guys
are going In the clock's ticking

597
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:32,900
down, there's that there's
little, the noise level, it's

598
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:34,500
just awesome.
And it's something that like I

599
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:36,400
haven't experienced about my
life because I've only been to a

600
00:30:36,408 --> 00:30:39,000
handful of wrestling matches.
But when you get in there and

601
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,800
you see you know the intensity,
which it's awesome man.

602
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,400
So it was super, super good to
get that win because I know

603
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,400
interstate is sort of like the
premier program.

604
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,100
Not that Tech isn't but like
they are one of the Premier

605
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:51,100
programs in the ACC and in the
country.

606
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,300
So so one of the good stem is
like a win against UConn

607
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:55,300
basketball.
Like it's a it's a program to

608
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:58,000
finding win.
Yeah, it really is or one of the

609
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,800
best in the country.
I want to talk about a part of

610
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,400
that atmosphere.
That might was Andy Smith.

611
00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:07,200
The local kid when he secured
that.

612
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,100
When, like, you've been in
Castle for basketball games, we

613
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:14,600
know did that place shape when
he got that final when he just

614
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,300
secured the win.
And got that point for

615
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,600
essentially the upset, I don't
know if it shook but say it was

616
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,600
just as loud as if as if you
know 100 or hit a game-winning

617
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,000
three in Castle like that, it
was loud man.

618
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,200
And I believe I believe he was a
second to last match of the

619
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,800
night.
If I'm not mistaken about that.

620
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,300
Max hold on was it was
definitely towards the end.

621
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:39,100
I don't know.
I don't know exactly where yeah

622
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:43,000
there, but so I think yeah.
So he got like a takedown or

623
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,400
something to go up at the very
end and then the he said, he was

624
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,200
up by like, maybe like one or
two and to the NC State player

625
00:31:50,500 --> 00:31:52,800
were, the wrestler was trying to
get a takedown of him.

626
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,300
It kind of had a like, you're up
on one leg, sort of trying to,

627
00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:58,400
you know, Wrestling down and he
did a great job of Defense, you

628
00:31:58,408 --> 00:32:00,900
know, staying upright time
expired.

629
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:03,000
So again I don't know anything
about wrestling tintocalis, be

630
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,500
good.
Just tell like he did a great

631
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,000
job of sealing out that match
and that was what allowed Tech

632
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,300
to to win the match.
Ultimately so yeah, that's great

633
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,500
job by him.
Yeah, it was the next to last

634
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:12,900
match.
But what it did is it

635
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:17,300
effectively put Tech up enough
with Hunter, Hunter, kataka

636
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:19,800
loss, but that wasn't expected
loss.

637
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:23,500
Yes, one of my fraternity,
Brothers, David fuel, I've

638
00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:26,500
mentioned it before on here.
He wrestled at Longwood He

639
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:30,600
College, he is my go-to on
wrestling, literally, I am

640
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,500
seriously.
If he feels like, it's going to

641
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:34,900
be tough for him.
He's a CPA.

642
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,700
I'm seriously, when we go to
Nationals, we might have him on

643
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:41,100
for 15 minutes because he knows
enough about it.

644
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:45,700
And me, and him had a
conversation after Bryce after

645
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:50,100
Bryson, on the absolutely
destroyed, a top-10 wrestler and

646
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:51,800
I said, does Bryce have a
chance?

647
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,000
And he says, yeah, because the
guy that wanted 157 went to 165

648
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,500
And he says, 157 is not.
As fact, he says, Bryce of Donna

649
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,000
has a legitimate shot to win a
National Title.

650
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:07,600
And when we say that, I think
Sam, what Anna does definitely.

651
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,500
Oh, yeah, those.
And that, I mean, it's

652
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:14,500
excitement with something like
that.

653
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,800
I mean, even with the upset
about it, and it sucked and we

654
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,800
came out to gain, got pin, but
you know, what's the overall

655
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,200
Community there?
I mean, is it similar to

656
00:33:24,208 --> 00:33:26,800
football and basketball where
the community is Behind this

657
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,000
program.
Definitely, you can sense it.

658
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,700
I mean, if you look at like, the
growth of the program in the

659
00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:35,800
past, you know, 55 10 years it's
been pretty to watch.

660
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,600
Like, I know, you know, back in
the 2000's like I'm a tech was

661
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,700
horrible at wrestling like they
were talking about cutting the

662
00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:46,200
program, so to see where kind of
where it's come from our wisest,

663
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,100
pretty pretty amazing.
I know they've they've found a

664
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:50,700
lot on Jay with it scrt.
See at the Southeast Regional

665
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:54,100
Training Center, couple guys,
you know, practice and all that

666
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,000
stuff.
So they've had the financial

667
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,300
backing of organizations like
that.

668
00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:01,500
So I think they just, you know,
the port the infrastructure to

669
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:03,700
really win at a high level.
I just can't wait to see what

670
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:05,500
they can do, what they can do in
the future.

671
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,500
Yeah, I mean you know, we were
we started following well, I

672
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:14,500
shouldn't say following
football, bit attending a lot of

673
00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:18,000
hockey football other hokey
events in the 2000s.

674
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,699
And definitely within that era
it was definitely an

675
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:24,699
afterthought you know, wrestling
wasn't really even given given

676
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:29,100
any sort of credence from a
sports perspective in Virginia

677
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:32,800
Tech Athletics.
So the fact that it's built that

678
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,800
much of a reputation that quick
is really important.

679
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:38,199
Oppressive and I love that the
community's really kind of

680
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:40,400
embraced that and jumped on
board.

681
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,400
Yeah.
And it's great to see and eat

682
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,800
and I think it's any time you
get to the National prominence

683
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,199
that quickly and when it's on
television, which the ACC could

684
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:54,000
do a better freakin job of.
Because I last time we were on

685
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:59,000
here, I ran and I don't
understand how Cornell Virginia

686
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,800
Tech was not on the SEC network.
It was literally the number 7

687
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,100
and the number 8 wrestling
schools in the country.

688
00:35:05,100 --> 00:35:07,000
Going at it.
It and instead, it was a

689
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,100
freaking 3430 right there at
7:00 and it's just like terrible

690
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:15,700
production, but, you know, give
me, give me a few more drinks.

691
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:17,400
I mean, I really go off on the
SEC network.

692
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:22,100
Yeah, we'll break out the thus,
Pirtle tapes and lay them out.

693
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:25,600
I shall hang on what this here
before we get into some more fun

694
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,600
topics tonight.
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695
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,900
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Alrighty.
So, Sheldon, thanks for staying

704
00:35:56,900 --> 00:35:58,100
with us for the rest of the
time.

705
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:00,200
And we are going to get into
some hokey football.

706
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,800
We are the boundary Corner.
We are a Hokie Football podcast.

707
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:06,100
Cast.
It's fun to talk the other

708
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:07,100
stuff.
We love it.

709
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:09,200
We love having guests.
Like you on, you mentioned David

710
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,000
Cunningham who's been on
numerous times.

711
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,300
We thought about bravery.
You think we should bring David

712
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:15,700
for the December episode one
time?

713
00:36:15,700 --> 00:36:18,700
Run got to do it.
You got.

714
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:21,300
Yeah we got we got to get David
Suburban with us.

715
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:25,100
Exactly, let's talk football and
let's talk portal because since

716
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,800
the last time we come here,
there was the end of the portal

717
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,500
and there was some movement in
the last few days and sort of a

718
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:35,700
big move, I did not see coming.
Bronze all coming but maybe you

719
00:36:35,707 --> 00:36:38,200
did.
Shelton was Keyshawn, team

720
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:40,700
enters the portal.
You know, King coming off of,

721
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:42,400
you know, solid season.
Probably the best.

722
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,200
He'd look, since being at Tech
including his freshman year, you

723
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,400
know, over 400 yards, rushing
100 yards.

724
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,400
Receiving that is our code jump
friend, Robbie Compton.

725
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,900
Um let's let's show up and start
with it run.

726
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,200
When did you see this coming?
Did you hear anything or were

727
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,100
you shocked?
That he decided to enter the

728
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:08,600
portal.
No, I was very surprised.

729
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,000
I did not see that coming at
all, you know, I thought King

730
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,500
Elvis had a good season.
For us last year.

731
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,500
And I bring a year from, he was
healthy, like he was easy time

732
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:20,600
of the doghouse during the
Clinton era, you know, for

733
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,800
reasons that, you know, maybe
some Justified, maybe not.

734
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,900
But, you know, he's also got
with injuries and so to see and

735
00:37:26,900 --> 00:37:29,300
have a breakout year.
Like, this was pretty, pretty

736
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:31,600
awesome.
I think he, I don't like him as

737
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,000
an every down to the back, I
think he's just too small for

738
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,600
that to the type of role.
So I'm guessing maybe he saw.

739
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,200
Kind of the writing on the wall,
he saw the transfer is coming in

740
00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:41,300
and just felt like he wasn't
really going to get the carries

741
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:42,600
that he wanted.
I'm not, you know, trying to

742
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,500
project onto him.
Just you know how it goes most

743
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:46,800
of the time so let's pricing
move.

744
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,800
But you know in the long run if
if if what people are saying

745
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,700
about this inkling back from in
C and T is true, I think it's

746
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:54,700
not going to be the biggest deal
in the world because we got

747
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:56,300
some, got some studs at running
back.

748
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,700
Yeah.
We were talking about that

749
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:04,100
because if you're looking at,
you got Thomas, you got now to

750
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,700
Dan come in, who were going to
talk about the second, you know,

751
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:10,000
Keshawn King kind of becomes
that more change of pace back.

752
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:13,100
He's also probably impressed for
some carries by Bryce.

753
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,500
Is Dooku, kind of do similar
type things and maybe coming

754
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:20,300
into his own, in terms of, you
know, being a little bit more

755
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:24,300
durable than King is shown in
his career.

756
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:27,300
So when you kind of put all
those pieces together it kind of

757
00:38:27,308 --> 00:38:31,300
makes sense for him to maybe
look at another opportunity but

758
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:34,900
let's go ahead and flip it over.
Let's talk about Bay Schulte

759
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:40,600
uddin Ali stud coming out of NC
A&T.

760
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:45,600
I mean stud Top 15 in the portal
ranked by on three.

761
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:50,000
He is the 15th ranked running
back in the portal ahead of some

762
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,500
guys.
You know that played at ahead of

763
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:55,900
Kobe Pace, right?
About right with Kobe pay.

764
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:59,900
Someone from Clemson to UVA the
Penn State transfer.

765
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:02,500
Where did it go?
I'm on a new computer.

766
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:03,900
So this is a pain in the but it
doesn't do it.

767
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:09,900
I want to do yet the key vonlee
from pin ephiny, efforting

768
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:13,000
efforting efforting, just the
William Thomas that went from

769
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,600
10.
I see to Cal and come out.

770
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,300
Nothing nothing Auntie was his
only show the law for them. 24/7

771
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:26,700
he's up at a pulse in New
Jersey, 511 195, but I mean, you

772
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:32,100
look at the tape and what he did
at A&T last year stat-wise, I

773
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:34,200
love the move.
I love it.

774
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:37,300
Yeah, and I mean I watch some
tape on the kid.

775
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:40,300
I mean he does a little bit of
everything he can.

776
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:42,000
He can catch some balls out of
the backfield.

777
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,200
Make guys missing space.
He's really good at finishing

778
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,800
runs.
Has that next gear when he gets

779
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,500
to the second level?
Third level the defense where he

780
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,200
can kind of pull away for the
big run.

781
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,200
So, kind of does a little bit of
everything for us.

782
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,500
I mean, I'm looking forward to
seeing what he can do a little

783
00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:02,800
bit in the spring to kind of get
a better feel of what he's going

784
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,100
to do in this offense.
You know, if he enrolled are ya,

785
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:17,300
Dad, I do not know what were you
about to say, I'm sorry, I was

786
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:19,100
wrapping it up.
So you're just kind of like, oh

787
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:24,000
yeah, just like Brian saying I
read French is a film review on

788
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,900
the key play, you know, he's
obviously he's physical, he's

789
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:29,900
got some speed, he's elusive, I
basically the since I got

790
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:32,100
reading that piece was like,
this is not a guy that should be

791
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:34,900
planned at the FCS level, like
he's a legit power 5 running

792
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:36,900
back.
So I think it kind of adds a

793
00:40:36,908 --> 00:40:37,900
lot.
To that room.

794
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,500
And like you said, you know, one
of the top ranked one of the top

795
00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:44,300
during transfers and you add to
that alley Jennings who I

796
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:45,700
believe.
According to on three was a

797
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:47,100
tough, bring Spencer wide
receiver.

798
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,800
So you add those two guys, I
mean, that's a pretty good

799
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,200
transfer class.
Like, I know, Bill Connelly,

800
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,600
who, who does the SP plus
rankings for football?

801
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:56,700
He said, Virginia Tech,
Virginia, Tech's transfer class

802
00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:58,700
was super impressive.
So coming from a guy like him,

803
00:40:58,700 --> 00:40:59,900
like that's got to be High,
Praise.

804
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:01,100
Yeah.
Absolutely.

805
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:03,600
And it's and he also is talking
about the return production on

806
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,300
top of those transfer portal,
guys.

807
00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:08,800
He he's got us here.
Talking about us which, you

808
00:41:08,808 --> 00:41:10,900
know, I'm trying to temper the
expectation.

809
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:13,900
We still got to see what all the
pieces look like together.

810
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:18,300
So that's why we're tempering up
expectations, but we actually

811
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:23,000
have some pieces moving into the
season whereas last year, was

812
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,500
kind of like we got a hope a lot
of things happen.

813
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:28,300
We got a hope, a lot of things
happen, right?

814
00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:32,400
And it didn't for us, but I feel
like we, at least have pieces

815
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,800
that are in place.
Let's see if the coaches can get

816
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,100
the scheme to where they can
take advantage of those.

817
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,300
And let's see these guys go out
there and cook a little bit

818
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:43,000
abso-freakin'-lutely.
But speaking of getting to the

819
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,300
season, before we do that, you
got to go through winter

820
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:49,900
workouts and clearly that is now
on display social media team,

821
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:54,500
doing a great job, showing the
guys showing the workouts and

822
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:57,400
then they started coming out
with the little recognition

823
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,000
every week in the winter
workout.

824
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,700
Tough athletes and thus far,
Johnny Garrett, Jalen Stroman,

825
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:08,000
Morel Pollard and Jaden Keller
have a seat Really received the

826
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,900
awards Brown, I let you leave.
Who are you?

827
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:15,500
Happy is to see on this list of
essentially, crushing the winter

828
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:19,800
workouts, can I hedge can, I
can, I can, I, can I give you 1

829
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,200
a 1 B?
There is no one anyone but you

830
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,600
got.
All right, screwin Johnny

831
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,800
Garrett, I knew you was going
on.

832
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:30,100
What?
So why do I say, Johnny?

833
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:32,900
Garrett, because we need tackle
help.

834
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:36,300
If Johnny Garrett can get to a
point where he is, at least

835
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:41,200
pushing Parker Clements coming
into 2023.

836
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,400
I feel a whole lot better about
the offensive tackle situation

837
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:50,200
than I felt last year because I
feel like we at least have three

838
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:55,300
legitimate guys that can at
least give you something, they

839
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:58,100
can least be that starting
caliber player.

840
00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:01,000
Or whether they're going out
there and beat the world.

841
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:04,000
I don't know if we'll get to
that point this year, and I

842
00:43:04,008 --> 00:43:07,100
don't think we will, but I just
want to see confident offensive

843
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,000
line, play consistent, offensive
line play.

844
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,700
Because we didn't see that a
whole lot last year.

845
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,200
So if Johnny Garrett can get to
that point and push for a

846
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,900
starting role in 2023, that'll
be a big step forward.

847
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:22,300
So seeing him getting some
recognition, is a good start to

848
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:24,100
that offseason.
All right.

849
00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:25,300
What about you shell?
Who are you?

850
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,200
We do need dogs up front, who
are you?

851
00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:31,000
Excited to see on that list.
Sort of already making an

852
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:37,900
impression on winter workouts.
I would say Keller between

853
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:41,300
between want to mention.
I mean he's a stud the kind of

854
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:43,500
lesson to stud man that
linebacker room is is pretty

855
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:45,800
good.
I do have some insight scoop to

856
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,900
report if I made my mouse inside
of here.

857
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:52,500
So I was at P K's on Saturday
night after the Hokies, whenever

858
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:54,900
Syracuse and Brent was in
attendance.

859
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,700
He may or may not have had
several drinks and he may or may

860
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:03,300
not have used several several
four-letter words to describe

861
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:06,600
the the state of that of that.
Room and a very positive

862
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,400
connotation, right.
But only basically between

863
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,300
Keller Lawson and I believe,
McDonald is a third, a third

864
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:15,500
linebacker.
He thinks that line back room

865
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:18,000
could be one of the best in the
country in the coming years and

866
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,500
I believe him like that.
Those guys are just awesome and

867
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:23,100
I love Kelly's, like range and
versatility athleticism, the

868
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:26,500
length and all that stuff, and
and color as well too.

869
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,800
So I'm super excited about about
that room.

870
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:31,300
Also, I love seeing all the
names on here.

871
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:34,600
I love, I love your inside scoop
from P K's on Saturday night

872
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,700
after cocktails with He's very,
he's a very candid, Man.

873
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:42,800
By the way?
He, yes, time, we met him when

874
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,900
he did, the party tailgate out
there in Richmond and Hardy

875
00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:49,200
would so, yeah, we definitely,
he definitely knows how to work

876
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,200
a room.
He definitely knows how to how

877
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,700
to, how to play loose with with,
with people that he knows he can

878
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:57,100
play loose with, so I appreciate
that for sure.

879
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,600
Yeah, now y'all like those two.
I'm going to tell you the guy, I

880
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,200
like because it's somebody we
mentioned in our Alpha Dogs

881
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,500
episode and it's Jalen strowman.
I told Brian.

882
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,200
Ron, we discussed that
eventually Jalen Stroman would

883
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,500
be the leader of the D-Block.
I see this.

884
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,500
He is getting that way a lot
quicker.

885
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,800
We already saw him play on the
field last year.

886
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,800
He looked good in really his
first significant amount of

887
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,500
action especially those games
when he was pressed to have to

888
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:25,400
move back to free safety when
Shamari came down to play

889
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,500
nickel.
And now, he's out here

890
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:29,600
absolutely falling on winter
workouts.

891
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:34,300
We know the bloodline We know
his brother essentially was a

892
00:45:34,308 --> 00:45:38,700
leader at the Block.
That makes me excited in brown.

893
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:40,900
I'll go ahead and say it too.
It's all so excited to see

894
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:43,500
Pollard up there because we
talked about how Pollard

895
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:45,800
probably is going to be the
leader of the defensive line

896
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,200
this year vocally.
And so when you see that in

897
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,700
Britain Prime mentioned it, last
offseason, the winter workouts

898
00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:54,100
is where you figure out who your
leaders.

899
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:57,900
Are you figure out who your dogs
are and when you see it's guys

900
00:45:57,900 --> 00:45:59,500
you know they're going to be on
the field.

901
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:02,600
A lot in someone like Johnny Gat
who Look into the too deep of

902
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,300
two times on the depth chart are
in the season.

903
00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:07,600
That's what you want to see in
my opinion.

904
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,400
Yeah, it's definitely a big step
forward, I think so.

905
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,000
And we talked about it.
We said we talked about in the

906
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,600
last episode of the Alpha Dog
episode.

907
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,600
We were like these are the guys
that are going to need to step

908
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,100
up the offseason.
It's nice to see three names

909
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:23,400
that we mentioned in that
episode already being recognized

910
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,500
and then it's nice to see kind
of that dark horse in Johnny

911
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:30,300
Garrett taking a big step
forward and hopefully it's not

912
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:32,700
just something that's, you know,
a workout Warrior type

913
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:34,100
situation.
They were going to start seeing

914
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,700
that production carry over to
what happens on the field.

915
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,800
Lately, a couple other notes
fontelle.

916
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,800
Mine got paid.
He got paid a lot.

917
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,900
Well, dessert very well.
Deserved the man, the man has

918
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:57,500
eight, the 804 for lunch and
dinner and he's doing some good

919
00:46:57,500 --> 00:46:59,700
work.
Laying some Foundation out of

920
00:46:59,700 --> 00:47:06,800
the 75-72 gets a big bump from
150k up to 425.

921
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,500
I like it.
I mean, and if and when we look

922
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:15,200
at the movement in the
footprint, in terms of wide

923
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,300
receiver coaches, that's also
happened.

924
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,500
It was it was both warranted and
needed.

925
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,900
Yes, it was.
Yes, I'm lucky.

926
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:27,900
You got to pick, you got to pay
coach these, whatever good

927
00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:30,100
football team.
I mean, I talk to you know, last

928
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:32,900
year In a future piece, I did
for the key play.

929
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,300
I talked about how Tech fell
behind sort of during this

930
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:36,400
intense.
In terms of, you know, their

931
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,600
infrastructure.
There are some, their financial,

932
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,000
you know, back in the program.
And one of those areas was

933
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,100
coaching salaries.
I mean, we just didn't we just

934
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:45,700
weren't investing and coaching
stars as much as we should have

935
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:47,300
been.
And so to see that kind of

936
00:47:47,308 --> 00:47:50,900
change is last couple years
where we invested in this new

937
00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:52,900
staff.
Now you give fontelle, mine's a

938
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:55,900
guy who's been doing a great
job, recruiting, you know, a

939
00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:58,200
three or 30 percent, raise, or
whatever it is like.

940
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,000
That's, I mean, that's that
shows commitment, and I'm really

941
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,700
excited because It shows that
they're committed to having him

942
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:04,000
here.
And I also think with wide

943
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,500
receivers like that's a, that's
a position because, you know,

944
00:48:06,508 --> 00:48:10,600
that's kind of how You know,
it's such an integral part of

945
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,000
the offense, like you got to get
at those studs here and you kind

946
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,500
of open the passing game.
If you want have a functional,

947
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:17,000
we're going to functional
offense.

948
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,500
So it's a great, it's a great
thing for found.

949
00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:22,100
Tell obviously, having for him,
and certainly happy for Virginia

950
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:23,100
Tech.
Absolutely.

951
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:26,400
And to make to the point on that
case about the needing good wide

952
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,300
receivers.
It looked like they identified

953
00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:32,300
that after the off.
So, after the season and weekly,

954
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:36,500
you know, obviously the three
guys in the portal with pretty

955
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:39,100
quick moves, which I think this
is Playing bass are very excited

956
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:41,500
about and I have a feeling
especially we know the alley

957
00:48:41,500 --> 00:48:43,400
Ginny's connection.
We know how much he had probably

958
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,000
in getting him here.
As like you said, a top rated on

959
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,500
three guy.
So that was huge and he did

960
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:50,500
deserve it.
He's busting his ass.

961
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,300
He's done great.
Recruiting here.

962
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:55,900
He started to put the wall
around Richmond to where it's.

963
00:48:55,900 --> 00:49:00,100
Now he's getting everybody here
it's can he get the next step?

964
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,200
Can he get those top five top
ten guys in the you know,

965
00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:08,400
Greater Richmond region and this
Year.

966
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:11,300
We'll see.
He has the opportunity.

967
00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:13,500
He does have the opportunity
this year.

968
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:15,800
Yes.
All right and one thing to add

969
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,600
to that, one thing I had that
real quick, obviously we know

970
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,200
for gtex offense was terrible
last year, but the fact that

971
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,500
fontelle could convince a guy
like Alec Jennings with just

972
00:49:23,500 --> 00:49:25,300
your eligibility left to come
play for him.

973
00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:27,100
I think speaks volumes.
She was recruiting.

974
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:30,300
Look obviously recruiting is all
about selling cars on a vision.

975
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:32,600
And so, I think what you're kind
of seeing is like he's coaches,

976
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,100
can sell players on what the
future is going to look like and

977
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:37,000
even if they're not necessarily
part of it.

978
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,500
So I think I think that's me.
X to the recruiting building on.

979
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:42,300
Yeah, because I mean Jennings
would have had a lot of

980
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:44,900
opportunities elsewhere.
He didn't have to come to a

981
00:49:44,908 --> 00:49:48,500
situation where Tech is coming
off one of its worst offensive

982
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:51,400
Seasons at least in recent
history.

983
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,900
If not in overall, I'll be
teaching at the we had to go

984
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:58,400
back 15 years.
At least I really have any sort

985
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:02,900
of comparable metric to look at
in terms of offensive output.

986
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:07,000
So the fact that he was able to
sell that the fact that the

987
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,100
other offensive churches were
able to kind of put that

988
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:12,400
together with what they were
doing with a big push for

989
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,100
drones, which seems like very
calculated.

990
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:19,700
Well, before we knew, what was
going down with that, they had a

991
00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:22,900
vision, they had targeted guys
that they really wanted to

992
00:50:22,900 --> 00:50:24,700
pursue and then they put it
together.

993
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:27,600
And, you know, we now have an
offense that we can, at least

994
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,500
say, all right, we've got some
Talent.

995
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:32,300
Let's, let's see how we can put
all the pieces together, and if

996
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:35,900
we can make that click a little
bit, absolutely.

997
00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:41,400
Um, if Doesn't know, already
spring game April, 15 3 p.m.

998
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:42,900
Shelton.
I'm assuming you'll be their

999
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,000
work schedule permitting.
Yes, work schedule permitting

1000
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,400
from you're making plans, right?
Oh yeah, I'll be there.

1001
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:55,400
No doubt book it, I'm a coin
flip, I don't know.

1002
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,400
Yeah, we've got kids stuff going
on and anytime there's a lot of

1003
00:50:58,408 --> 00:51:00,900
kids stuff going on.
I usually have to lay on it

1004
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:04,100
because as much as I want to go
to the spring game, I'm going to

1005
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:07,000
a game this year so I'll lay on
the grenade and loose spring

1006
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,300
game.
Something interesting ACC

1007
00:51:09,300 --> 00:51:11,300
network is doing this year, they
are not, I don't think they're

1008
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:14,600
showing any game live because
there's so many on the same days

1009
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,900
that are overlapping all going
to be on extra and then they're

1010
00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:19,600
going to show them, I believe
the subsequent days.

1011
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,100
So if you guys are looking to
catch it after you, both go

1012
00:51:22,100 --> 00:51:24,500
there and watch the game do
that.

1013
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:27,400
Yeah, so there I think what they
were trying to avoid is what

1014
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,700
they had last year where they
were having, like, spring games

1015
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:31,500
played at night and shit like
that.

1016
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,600
They were essentially saying
it'll be on the SEC network

1017
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,600
extra if you want. want to watch
it Live program by program and

1018
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:45,600
then if not if you if you just
get the network then you'll see

1019
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,600
it when it airs, re-airs,
whatever, one day, two days

1020
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,500
later, It makes us from a
scheduling standpoint.

1021
00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:55,100
Is that scheduling last year was
a little bit Bonkers.

1022
00:51:55,300 --> 00:52:00,100
I mean we probably got We got
both screwed in terms of the

1023
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:02,800
day, but we got, I think we came
out.

1024
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,100
Okay?
In terms of the time.

1025
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:11,000
Yeah, but you know, it's tough.
So they went to this, this, this

1026
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,500
model this year.
Once again, the ACC doesn't know

1027
00:52:14,500 --> 00:52:18,600
how to schedule shit, they don't
like you.

1028
00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:22,100
Like you've got dew point super
early spring game every year.

1029
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:25,100
It's like there are four
weekends in April that you could

1030
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:29,800
schedule these and you could get
this This shit done, anything

1031
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,200
you want to add because it
seemed like you were coming

1032
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,700
behind me.
Sheldon with some know, they're

1033
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:35,800
what they're going to do is show
a documentary about Wake.

1034
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:41,800
Forest is 1964 basketball, team
hit the rim shot there.

1035
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,000
By the way, we got Robbie says
he's going to try to go Braun.

1036
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:47,700
All right?
So so Robbie, you're robbing me,

1037
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:50,000
man.
Aren't you gonna drive to North

1038
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,400
Wilkesboro?
Get him, and then go up.

1039
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,300
He's gonna have a shorter Drive
than you meet me at Jason's me a

1040
00:52:54,300 --> 00:53:00,400
ronin.
Buddy Levar is going as well,

1041
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,200
but let's flip it.
Brian, let's talk one last

1042
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,100
before we close out tonight.
Let's talk about the ACC

1043
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:10,000
schedule was released yesterday.
Best thing about the Hokie

1044
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,600
schedule was we knew who our
first for opponent was based on

1045
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,300
the other leagues already having
their schedule set?

1046
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:20,400
And you know we lead off with
ODU on the second Labor Day

1047
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,200
weekend Purdue at home on the
9th and then back-to-back Road

1048
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:30,300
games at Rutgers and Marshall as
the S4 and you know, subsequent

1049
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:33,900
everybody saw anybody seen it
now from last night so I'll

1050
00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:36,300
throw.
What do you guys Sheldon?

1051
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:39,200
The slow with you.
What's the toughest for game

1052
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,700
stretch of this season times 4
again stretched?

1053
00:53:43,700 --> 00:53:45,000
Well let me pull it up real
quick.

1054
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:52,800
I mean I would say once you
start conference play you know I

1055
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,900
would say it was.
Let's go September and October

1056
00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:57,700
so pit Florida State Wake
Forest.

1057
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,100
All right.
Um, I mean that's, you know, I

1058
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:02,700
just, I never liked the match
with pit.

1059
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:05,800
Like they've got a big physical
defensive, like, we just, we

1060
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,900
don't play them very well.
You know, obviously last year

1061
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:11,200
being a private primary example,
you know, for to say it's the

1062
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,200
road and he's gone Mike Norvell,
that's a really tough.

1063
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:19,000
I don't anticipate, you know,
game like 2018 where they fumble

1064
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,100
the ball six times and we you
know recover every single one of

1065
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:26,400
them so and he got wait for its
now.

1066
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:29,200
Wake wake is Resting because
they're listening to him Hartman

1067
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,800
but they have Mitch Griffiths
who was as backup last year.

1068
00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:35,000
I saw him in the view, my game
is first game of the season

1069
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,200
actually played pretty well.
I think he's got a good arm.

1070
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,400
There's going to be some sort
of, you know, drop off there.

1071
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,000
But with Clausen I trust him to
kind of get the most out of his

1072
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,100
offensive guys.
So you know, that's a game where

1073
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:47,000
it's like you know you kind of
got to be on your toes a little

1074
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:52,300
bit and then Syracuse kind of
probably started off.

1075
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:53,900
Good locked.
I think there are five a note

1076
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,300
taper off towards the end but
there are team that you know you

1077
00:54:56,300 --> 00:54:58,900
got to take seriously.
So That's me, touch your ex that

1078
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:01,300
those games October.
I mean, it's it's really tough.

1079
00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:04,500
Yeah, I was looking at the
schedule.

1080
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:06,000
I agree with you.
In terms of the four game

1081
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,700
stretch, it's got to be there's
first for to open ACC play and

1082
00:55:10,700 --> 00:55:14,300
then looking at the schedule as
a whole, you know, we really

1083
00:55:14,300 --> 00:55:18,500
have a lot of we outside of
Clemson is there.

1084
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:21,600
Really?
Any sure thing in the ACC, like

1085
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,700
I feel like there's, there's
not, I was like, I feel like,

1086
00:55:25,700 --> 00:55:28,200
yeah, Florida State's probably
the close close This because

1087
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,100
they're not retooling, as much
as saying.

1088
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:33,300
NC State who also has probably a
pretty good roster as well, but

1089
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:35,200
they're not retooling as much as
they are.

1090
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:38,200
But just looking at it top to
bottom.

1091
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,100
I mean you know pits bringing in
obviously a new quarterback that

1092
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:47,100
is familiar with ACC play but at
the same time is yeah,

1093
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:51,200
unfamiliar with the system, may
be getting them early in

1094
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,200
conference.
Play might be working in our

1095
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,700
favor but it's still, you know,
a month into the season.

1096
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,800
Who knows with that?
FSU are they back is FS you

1097
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,000
back.
I think this is the season that

1098
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,600
kind of maybe answers that
question.

1099
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,400
You know as you said you already
talked about wake breaking in a

1100
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,800
new quarterback can Syracuse
defense hold up enough.

1101
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,300
Without having an elite rushing
attack or an elite rusher, I

1102
00:56:15,308 --> 00:56:20,600
should say, you know, we'll see
their Louisville.

1103
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:26,300
First year under Brom BC is kind
of a clusterfuck in their

1104
00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:27,800
retooling.
They're probably the only I'm

1105
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:31,700
unsure thing.
It's in Chestnut Hill.

1106
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:34,600
Damn it.
It is in Chestnut Hill.

1107
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:38,300
So so you know they've got that
in their corner, you know NC

1108
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:41,400
State is going to be playing
with a new quarterback but

1109
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,100
they're still going to be a good
team.

1110
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:44,400
They're still going to be good
on defense.

1111
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:48,400
They are losing their most of
their linebacking Corps.

1112
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,200
Those.
So that's something to keep an

1113
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,600
eye on and those are the big
time play makers, then you got

1114
00:56:53,600 --> 00:57:01,000
UVA that maybe Edging towards
dumpster fire, maybe, but they

1115
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:02,700
were much improved on defense
last year.

1116
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:05,500
So we'll see if their defense
takes another step or they can

1117
00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:10,300
kind of, you know, figure take
some time to figure it out on

1118
00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:11,700
offense.
They may be at that point at

1119
00:57:11,707 --> 00:57:13,900
that point in the season.
But there's so many question

1120
00:57:13,900 --> 00:57:17,100
marks with just about every
team, not being Clemson and

1121
00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:20,800
maybe Florida State in this
conference, all right, I'm going

1122
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,000
to say, I agree with two of the
four.

1123
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,900
Y'all chose as the toughest for
drain stretch.

1124
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,800
But I'm going to go this, I
think it's Rutgers.

1125
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,200
Marshall Pittman Florida State.
There's three Road games in four

1126
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,100
weeks and you got to play pit to
shelters.

1127
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:37,400
Point plan, that big defensive
line Rutgers is Greg Schiano.

1128
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,600
We know they are going to play
an ugly brand of football,

1129
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,700
everybody even though it was
Kyle flood his Protege.

1130
00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:48,400
Everybody remembers the damn
Champs Sports Bowl in Orlando,

1131
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,000
back in 2012 and what an ugly
game that was.

1132
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,300
So you're going to get an ugly
game up there with a defensive

1133
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:56,600
minded head coach, then you
gotta go on the Road to

1134
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:58,400
Marshall.
And, you know, they are going to

1135
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,400
be similar to ODU and anybody
else we faced in state or a

1136
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,500
close proximity in the last five
years, they are going to be.

1137
00:58:05,500 --> 00:58:10,000
So up for that game, they are
going to probably be sold out,

1138
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,400
just probably an insane
atmosphere for them.

1139
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,400
Then you got to flip around,
then you got to play pit, then

1140
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,900
you got to go to FSU and also
put that stress because that is

1141
00:58:19,900 --> 00:58:24,900
also a stretch where it could
really break, or make or break

1142
00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:29,000
the season.
Because if you screw up and lose

1143
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,100
the Rutgers, or the Marshall
game, which is very, very

1144
00:58:32,100 --> 00:58:36,700
palpable, you could be going
into the pit game, two, and two,

1145
00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:40,500
or maybe even one in three.
And then it's just like, okay,

1146
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:42,400
well now you got to beat pitted
home.

1147
00:58:42,900 --> 00:58:44,200
And look at the rest of the
schedule.

1148
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,600
And that's kind of where I said,
I that's why I consider it

1149
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,100
tougher than the other ones.
Because at least we're getting a

1150
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:54,000
Thursday night and off a bye
week.

1151
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,100
With Syracuse, at least Sam
Harmon isn't playing I know you

1152
00:58:57,100 --> 00:59:02,300
saw the kid play Sheldon versus
VMI, but at least it's, it's not

1153
00:59:02,300 --> 00:59:06,100
them at their best, we know
clausen's against, but it's not

1154
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:08,900
them at their best.
Besides, there was a three plus

1155
00:59:08,900 --> 00:59:10,500
years starters.
Exactly.

1156
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,900
Yeah.
And tons of weapons all over the

1157
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:16,500
place or Boogie, really good
defensive players.

1158
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:19,200
All right, let me, let me flip
this.

1159
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:22,900
And and I feel like this is
just, you know, it is what it

1160
00:59:22,900 --> 00:59:24,200
is.
What's gonna be the best home

1161
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:29,800
game this year?
Or what were you thinking?

1162
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,600
They want to go to that next
home game this year.

1163
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:39,500
Who do you produce weight
Syracuse and State?

1164
00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:46,700
Man I would say I probably go
State just because I think

1165
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:50,300
they're good team.
So you know, if you're that your

1166
00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:53,600
top may be a top 25 team coming
into company Lane Stadium late

1167
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,400
in the season and Shop a few
wins go.

1168
00:59:56,400 --> 01:00:01,000
Like I know what 6 + 6 + 4
before that, you know, it'd be a

1169
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,100
big win for us.
That's a game where maybe if

1170
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:07,400
like if they come in with like a
name to record and practiced

1171
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,900
beat that it's like, okay, now
we're back as a program so

1172
01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:14,100
that's the, I think.
Sir potential, potentially very

1173
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:15,700
big thick, a big opportunity for
us.

1174
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,900
All right.
Well yeah I'm going to actually

1175
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:27,600
I'm gonna go pit just because of
the history just because of its

1176
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,900
ACC opener there.
I think there's a lot that's

1177
01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:33,000
going to be kind of riding on
that in terms of getting off to

1178
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,500
a good start in the ACC this
year.

1179
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:38,900
So I'm gonna go pit.
You know, I can definitely make

1180
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:42,400
a case for NC State and Purdue
the only reason I'd lean away

1181
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,600
from Purdue because they
replacing their coach.

1182
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,000
We don't really know what
caliber team that's going to be

1183
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,500
but it's early in the season.
So there's always He's that kind

1184
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:52,800
of hoping there's always that
hype.

1185
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,100
So if they win their first game
and coming to coming to Lane,

1186
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:58,800
especially after the season they
had last year, there's going to

1187
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,000
be some some hype and build up
behind that game as well.

1188
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,700
But I still just because of the
history just because of the ACC

1189
01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:10,700
opener and just because it's a
team that I think we need to win

1190
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:13,900
because we haven't historically
done that well against them in

1191
01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:15,700
recent years.
So I think it's going to be the

1192
01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:19,100
big game.
It's a good barometer for sure.

1193
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:23,400
It's a good barometer for sure.
I'm gonna disagree with both of

1194
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,500
you, because regardless of who
it is, anytime there's a

1195
01:01:27,508 --> 01:01:29,400
Thursday night Lane Stadium
game.

1196
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,100
It's the special game.
Now, what the hope is, we're

1197
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:38,700
going into that game playing
really well, because we do have

1198
01:01:38,700 --> 01:01:41,200
about a week leading up to it
after the Wake Forest game.

1199
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:45,600
So, it's that extra height
because let's just be let's

1200
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,300
let's just call it what it is.
If they could go into that game

1201
01:01:48,300 --> 01:01:53,900
with two losses.
After seven games and B, 5 and

1202
01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:56,800
2.
Can you think about coming after

1203
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:58,900
the Wake Forest game and how
people would be talking?

1204
01:01:58,900 --> 01:02:00,300
Hey were five and two were
playing.

1205
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:04,000
Well we chance to lock up a
bulb, it right here on Thursday

1206
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:07,900
night where we wear, so many
special moments have happened in

1207
01:02:07,900 --> 01:02:13,100
the history of this program.
So many special moments, And

1208
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:15,000
Sheldon, you're young.
And this is, this is the great

1209
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:16,800
part about having you know how
young you are.

1210
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,200
It's like the Quarry more game
forever entrenched in our

1211
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,300
generation.
I think someone like your age.

1212
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,700
Do you remember the Darren Evans
game?

1213
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,700
In, or you was Darren Evans
versus Maryland when he

1214
01:02:31,700 --> 01:02:34,900
legitimately truck the safety.
I mean he frequently and I

1215
01:02:34,900 --> 01:02:40,600
wasn't for my time.
Okay, album I can't remember how

1216
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,400
young man waiting.
I'm waiting.

1217
01:02:43,700 --> 01:02:45,600
I'm waiting, I'm waiting for my
time.

1218
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:46,900
This is your mama.
There you go.

1219
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:52,600
Take goes in 70 and squashes
Syracuse, 63 7, and then you

1220
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,400
have the moment for Thursday
night.

1221
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,400
Yeah.
But I'd love to see us blow out

1222
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,100
of here again.
That'd be.

1223
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:03,600
That'd be one of those days
where I'm just 2016.

1224
01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:06,000
It just absolutely dump-truckin
Carolina.

1225
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,600
Just dump truck in that ass 55.
What 5510?

1226
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,100
And it seemed like Ricky
Walker's, everybody scoring a

1227
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:15,900
touchdown.
It was just like God, I miss

1228
01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:19,500
those days.
I can off the high here.

1229
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:22,400
Toughest place to play this
year.

1230
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:25,700
You already already know -
Chestnut Hill Florida, State's

1231
01:03:25,700 --> 01:03:29,300
going to be loud.
Louisville's going to be banging

1232
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:34,900
Chestnut Hill early November,
which we like 23 degrees because

1233
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:37,600
they're going to somehow put
that game at ACC Network at

1234
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,100
night, and it's going to be the
red bandana.

1235
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:45,100
Bridezilla going to be the red
bandana game and I'm still going

1236
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:49,600
to lean away from that just
because I feel like BC is just

1237
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:54,600
there going to be a notch below
where they were overall Talent

1238
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,300
than they were last year.
Even though I think they

1239
01:03:56,300 --> 01:04:00,900
probably fill in some of the
holes that roster had last year.

1240
01:04:00,908 --> 01:04:04,100
I think they're probably better
on the offensive line this year

1241
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:06,300
than they were last year, but I
still think overall, they're

1242
01:04:06,300 --> 01:04:10,400
going to be a notch down.
I'm looking at FSU, You I think

1243
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,700
I think that's kind of the maybe
the low-hanging fruit here, but

1244
01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:17,600
I'm going to take it.
The game is going to be high.

1245
01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:20,100
There's going to be some swag
surfing.

1246
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:24,200
There's going to be some some
chops.

1247
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,400
There's going to be a whole lot
of noise and I think it's going

1248
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,900
to be a big one.
It's going to be a tough one,

1249
01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:31,900
but if we can go down there and
do some business, then,

1250
01:04:32,900 --> 01:04:35,400
especially if we take care of
business the weeks before.

1251
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:40,300
There's no start being some
conversations, so That's fine

1252
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,300
Sheldon.
Yeah, it's got to be for his

1253
01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:45,500
statement.
They've got they've got a stud

1254
01:04:45,500 --> 01:04:48,000
quarterback coming back.
They've got a good head coach

1255
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,400
and we combine that with with
the atmosphere they have, I know

1256
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,700
people talk about BC but it's
like when you're when you're

1257
01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:55,600
playing a really good team in a
pack environment like that's

1258
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,400
really tough.
So I got to go FSU.

1259
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,100
All righty.
One more thing before we kind of

1260
01:05:01,107 --> 01:05:04,400
close it up here tonight.
That's great to schedule.

1261
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:07,800
Let's kind of look at it because
I mean, Florida, State's

1262
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,700
obviously, the big one like ice
again, we're putting on it.

1263
01:05:10,700 --> 01:05:13,600
But like, what you mentioned
earlier, Brian, a lot of

1264
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:15,400
questions with a lot of these
teams.

1265
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,900
A lot of questions.
I mean, even on those days, you

1266
01:05:17,900 --> 01:05:20,100
know, there's three there's four
out of conference games, a lot

1267
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:25,000
of questions there.
You know, where do we put this?

1268
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:27,800
You know, in terms of who were
playing where we're playing on

1269
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,400
when we're playing them, where
would you grade it Shelton.

1270
01:05:32,300 --> 01:05:35,600
In terms of, I guess if you were
to like excitability, I mean,

1271
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:38,400
how does he see?
Personally, I know that just

1272
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,400
don't Arch.
Maybe si si - like look, it's

1273
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,600
just, you know, Purdue and
Rutgers and Marshall like how am

1274
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,700
I supposed to say?
No to you made like that our

1275
01:05:46,700 --> 01:05:50,800
Marquee game.
Our Marquee home game is what

1276
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,000
Purdue?
I mean, stay against just

1277
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:54,900
States, baby.
Fatal pit.

1278
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,700
Yeah, I mean, come on like I
just can't get excited for that.

1279
01:06:04,700 --> 01:06:07,500
Sorry like I hope we win all the
games man, but it's just like,

1280
01:06:07,500 --> 01:06:10,300
this is not, this is not a
schedule that gets my juices

1281
01:06:10,300 --> 01:06:12,700
flowing.
It definitely doesn't blow the

1282
01:06:12,700 --> 01:06:16,500
skirt up.
You know, when you look at it,

1283
01:06:16,500 --> 01:06:19,800
there's no real, you know, we
were kind of I think grasping

1284
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,100
for a marquee home game, right?
We had to we were hoping that

1285
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:27,400
that we had to tie some other
things into it for to really

1286
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,100
kind of build up a marquee home
game.

1287
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,400
And when you look at it, you
know, you got Purdue, it's a

1288
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,000
solid out of conference
opponent, but it's not anything

1289
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,900
to like really get excited about
and I feel like that's kind of

1290
01:06:41,908 --> 01:06:45,000
what the schedule is.
You know, other than maybe FSU,

1291
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,400
there's a lot of decent gains,
but there's nothing that really

1292
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,000
you kind of circle on the
schedule and say, I'm really

1293
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,000
looking forward to that.
Yeah, I'm with going to see the

1294
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,000
sea do, maybe, maybe because we
get Florida State.

1295
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,600
It's a c-plus schedule but it
really We isn't in.

1296
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:06,400
And I think, for us, I think if
it was Florida, I think if it

1297
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:11,100
was Florida State at home, You
know, weight force on the road.

1298
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:15,000
It would probably get to the B
category at least give you a

1299
01:07:15,008 --> 01:07:18,500
b-minus.
You got a murky home game.

1300
01:07:18,700 --> 01:07:21,900
Well, just hold your horses
because next year if y'all

1301
01:07:21,900 --> 01:07:26,000
looked at next year yet I have
but it's been so long, I

1302
01:07:26,008 --> 01:07:30,000
couldn't tell you.
Clemson is a home game in 2024

1303
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,700
away games at Duke and Carolina.
It's also here.

1304
01:07:34,700 --> 01:07:37,500
The out of conference opponent
is Vanderbilt that's in

1305
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:40,500
Nashville.
Which a lot of people have

1306
01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:44,100
already started talking about
Nashville, on Labor Day weekend,

1307
01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:53,000
sign me up NFL stadium, I
believe Jason, he knows all the

1308
01:07:53,000 --> 01:08:00,000
good spots the next season,
probably ranges that because you

1309
01:08:00,008 --> 01:08:02,000
get both Clemson in Louisville
at home.

1310
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,800
You know, you play off.
We play three Carolina schools

1311
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:10,200
on the road.
Wait, Duke and Carolina.

1312
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:14,100
So I think eventually we're
going to see a good balance out

1313
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:17,100
where you're going to have some
of those see pluses but you're

1314
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:20,899
going to be actually get some
Aid - has to all right Brian it

1315
01:08:20,899 --> 01:08:27,200
is 10:45 has anything broken.
Since we started think Twitter,

1316
01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:29,399
I haven't seen anything.
I mean Lakers got to win.

1317
01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:35,000
So no comment anything you say
anything.

1318
01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:38,300
Nope.
All righty.

1319
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:43,000
Before we wrap it up the
gentleman, we talk about all the

1320
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,100
time as our music guy Jason
long.

1321
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,500
Jason long is a teacher down in
the city of Roanoke.

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He teaches at Woodrow Wilson,
Middle School.

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Jason is also the assistant
wrestling coach down there and

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this week by the hair of our
chinny chin Chin's.

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His team won the city
Championship.

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So we want to shout out our
buddy, Jason long, Roanoke, City

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champion wrestling for the
middle school.

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You know, Jason's always been
nice enough to let us use his

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music all these years.
So in he's been our boy forever

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man.
I've known Jason since the fifth

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grade fries almost and I've
noticed a little school.

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So yeah, when we go we go back
to the way back so it's awesome

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for him.
I know he always tells us

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Usually a few of his wrestlers
always head down when the Hokies

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are wrestling.
And apparently, he's got one kid

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that he doesn't think his going
to play you want to wrestle in

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further.
He's going to potentially play

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football.
He's been invited to some camps

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and we mean invited.
He got the we're paying your way

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to this Camp.
So maybe if he commits the tech

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will get him but she'll do we
thank you for coming on tonight

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and that is going to wrap up
this episode of The Boundary

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corner.
Podcast brought to you by Main

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Street.
Pharmacy, in Blacksburg.

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01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:04,900
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.

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01:10:05,700 --> 01:10:10,500
I'm Sean must visit our website.
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listen to all of our episodes
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01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,500
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Use your favorite podcasts or
Spotify, Amazon and apple

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podcast as long, the man who is
the coach of the Roanoke City

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Middle School wrestling team?
I'm Jason Long play Ascend, play

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us out, check him out on his
website.

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Jason long music.com where you
can link to all of his music on

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Apple Spotify, and his YouTube
and Facebook pages.

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He is not doing any Live Events
as of right now.

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I think it's too damn cold from
go to the farmers market and

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freezes.
But off don't blame and plus the

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coaching gig we thank you always
for listening out there.

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And as always, let's go.
Okey