A tradition unlike any other. The Boundary Corner State of the Program 2023 is back and bigger than ever. We're joined as always by our friend and sponsor Jeremy Counts. The team is also joined by Kevin Drones and Christopher Lester to give us their perspectives as fathers of a player and recruit, respectfully. We also have some other friends hanging out at the bar this year. Dan Pultz from Tales From the Terrordome, Pete B from Two Deep and College Football Monday, and Coach Robert Compton join us talk about the season, recruiting, and the trajectory for the program. There's also a Dwight Vick sighting because State of the Program has no rules. Hope y'all enjoy this one!

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Music.
And welcome back to the Boundary

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Corner Podcast along with my
partners Brian Siegler, Jonathan

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Talley, and in the building
tonight.

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This episode is brought to you
by Doctor Lord Jeremy Count at

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the Main Street Pharmacy in
Blacksburg.

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I'm Jeremy.
You are Jeremy 301.

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Yay, Jeremy.
That's right.

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That's right.
I said it last year.

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I'll say it this year.
He pays the bills, he fills your

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pills.
He Jeremy counts.

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And once a year, the episode
pretty good is all his tally.

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Jeremy, how's everybody doing
tonight?

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Oh, man, I'm feeling good.
I got a little.

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I got a little Hardywood Bourbon
barrel GBS rolling on this side

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here.
So Tally, we're doing good.

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Tally what you sipping.
On man, we started off.

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We've already started with a
little Eagle rare.

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That's what we started with
earlier.

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But we going to bust open this
special gift for my brother.

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This is a very special Hennessy
Hip Hop edition.

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Got knobs on the cover.
Oh shit.

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So hey, hey.
In the program.

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Hey, let's get going.
We got to do it proper, man.

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We got to do it.
Proper.

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Let's get it going.
This year I've actually decided

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to be a little more responsible
with being responsible to me is

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drinking a 12 or a six pack
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But.
Right now I'm drinking Parkway

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Brewing out of Roanoke.
Get Bent IPA, my favorite beer

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ever.
It is so unabashedly hip.

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It would make Andrew Parent
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I love.
This.

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Gear.
It is wonderful.

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Stay away from the Jameson,
please.

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Stay away from the Jameson I'm.
Staying away.

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From it, I'm still going black
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House I'm.
Most.

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Here, Tally.
This is what I'm doing tonight

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boys.
Little.

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Old Oh, OK.
Hundred 100 proof.

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I got some Coors Lights 2
sitting over here.

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The banquet beer we poured heavy
the first time.

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First of all, 365 days ago.
This was not a fucking fun

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episode to do.
It was fun.

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It was.
Fun.

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It was fun in a.
Different way it wasn't.

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It was fun in a different way.
It wasn't fun to talk about it.

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Was fun to do.
It was fun to get.

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You had moonshine last year.
That's how bad it was.

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He had moonshine.
I drink an entire 5th of Evan

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Williams white label in three
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That was fucking dumb.
I don't know how much.

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I don't know how many.
James.

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All right, I was staying full
Fran Scotch, but to this year,

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before we start anything, the
boys look back, raise a glass,

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get into a bowl in a few days
here.

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By the way, I lied to y'all.
My ass is going to the bowl now.

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You going to the bowl?
Now, Yes.

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Story Real quick.
So.

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Story time.
Story time.

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Quick story so.
I couldn't go for a couple

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reasons.
A kids have doctor's

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appointments.
Well, the doctor screwed up.

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The doctor's appointment
scheduled like a week early.

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Wife couldn't make it.
She had to reschedule late.

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Great.
Cool.

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Thought about going.
Saw the prices.

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That hurts.
That hurts a while.

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I just paid for a bunch of kids
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Jeremy knew how to go to that
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But all of a sudden my cousin
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gives me a call.
Hey man, what's going on?

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I'm like nothing.
He's like, you want to go to the

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bowl game?
He's like, of course I do.

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I'd love to if I could, but I'm
like spending 100 bucks driving

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up there back.
Brian can't go because he's got

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shit already going on that day.
He's like, what if I told you I

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have free tickets?
Say what?

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Come to find out one of his
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cousins is actually AAT, an
athletic trainer down at two

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lanes.
You got two free tickets.

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So he's like, he's driving up
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We're going to go together.
I am excited to go.

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I've been looking at the
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It's going to rain like crazy.
Yeah, he always goes with the

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secret lab chair.
Y'all didn't know that.

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Always with the secret lab
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But boys, we got a fun episode
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We got a lot of special guests.
But Jeremy, what's been going on

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in your life the last 12 months?
I think some shit changed,

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right?
I got a baby now.

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How's that?
Treating you.

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It's been awesome, actually.
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I just like wake up at like 5 or
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little like few hours.
And then I go into work and it's

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not so bad.
I go to bed early like an old

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person, want to eat dinner at
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Jerry said.
I got old real quick.

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Yeah, it's not a bad adjustment.
I kind of like being old, being

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old.
I'm grouchy enough it works.

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You sleep when that baby sleep.
Yep, that was you did all right.

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We've adapted well, Emily said.
Great with her, like she's

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coming along, hitting all her
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early.
I'm happy.

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Fuck, I'm even happier that
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Hell yeah.
Back on track and just a few

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days ago obviously, I mean I
watched the whole thing and I'm.

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I know Brian was trying to watch
it, tell him that you were

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jumping on it.
But the the class of 2024, I

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mean big, big class, man.
Big class, big class, small

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class, small class, big class
from a standpoint of how would

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it be for the program.
It means a lot to the program.

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It means a ton to the program
because of where these guys are

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coming from and that overall
ranking the overall ranking is

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is in the top 30.
I mean that's Brian you always

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talked about it's the key 88
right at 88 number world and

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this is like an 87.9 class right
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So it's it's a lot of fun stuff
and some of that is kind of

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bullshit.
But we're we'll get to that.

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We're going to get to that.
We going to talk about it.

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We're definitely going to talk.
We're going to let some shit fly

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on that.
I'm, I'm, I'm damn sure about

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that.
So Jeremy, I know when we can't.

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Now we all.
We all met up at Purdue by the

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way.
The last time most four were in

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a room together was at the
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We were taking Jameson shots.
Then we worked.

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We were taking Jameson like
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I ain't going to lie, I felt a
little out of place when we went

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to farmhouse, 'cause I ain't see
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I think it's because all of the
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cooking, 'cause that was some
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When they brought that food out.
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You talking about we have a
robust black population in

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Christiansburg.
Well, I didn't see no black

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people in farmhouse.
I've seen a whole bunch of rich

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white people and they.
That is Farmhouse.

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So yeah, I was a little looking
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but once we got in there and and
got the drinking and that food

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started coming out, hell that I
it was right on point.

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But yeah, the the food was good
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I think there was some tequila
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somehow I.
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Know maybe, I don't know,
something got mixed in there.

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The only thing I remember about
that weekend is the the the

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freaking, the the microburst
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zone and hailstones pelleting
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Yeah, we we were getting.
Clipped from the side, The whole

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side just hanging out there and
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you didn't get to go to that
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Did you make it to any games
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I didn't.
Get to go to any games this year

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because of the baby.
We had a scene where we were

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going to go and like my mom got
a kidney stone and then dad got

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like fucking COVID slash flu
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different times and so we did
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games and so my tickets that I
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For every year.
I just gave away.

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Well, you're that good of a
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You just give them away to
people that will go scream their

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lungs out.
Selling good tickets is tacky.

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If you get tickets as good as I
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fucking tacky.
Give them to your friends,

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they'll appreciate.
It there we go, there you go,

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there you go.
But that, that, that's you

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didn't get to go to that game.
But I think when we sat there

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after that weekend, you know it
was like one in one and and you

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and you didn't know where you
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I remember, I think I texted the
white big not long after that

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and I I I was not in a good
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None of us were in a good place
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And and then she had started
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And then she had started
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And then what happened?
But you know, we got a lot.

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We're going low tonight.
Y'all, y'all.

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If you've ever not, first of
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anything about that.
But if you've never listened to

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this episode before, if you are
the faint of heart, you probably

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want.
To go ahead and turn it off.

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Right now I'm going to just go
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Know no.
What was?

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This thing last year that sent
me the card.

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Oh, that was amazing.
That was the best thing ever man

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ever.
I think his name was Joseph or

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something.
Joseph.

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It was Joseph.
But Joseph sent you a card.

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First episode he ever listened
to of our podcast.

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It was Jeremy.
When he was on with us for

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staying the program last year,
he was like, I'm not listening

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to it again.
I'm gonna send Jeremy a card.

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Author anymore.
And it was just like

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motherfucker.
I was on there doing most of the

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cursing.
What are you talking about?

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But if you This is the first
time you've ever listened to

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watch this, this, this gets
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Because every thought that's in
our brains, not only our brains,

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the folks we're going to bring
in.

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Did we let it flow tonight?
Because we we went through.

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Ever since August, we've been
focused on game game game game

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games, Tally, Drain and
Hennessy.

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We're having fun.
We're staying loose.

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And in over the last, over the
course of this year, there were

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guys popping up in the mentions
of our episodes and all of a

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sudden we started looking at
last names and started noticing

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their Facebook and their Twitter
and like, wait a second, I think

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that's and I think that's.
But we they, they they we hit

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them up and said do y'all want
to come on tonight.

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And they did.
So without further ado, we got

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our first two guests kind of
walking into the bar state of

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the program, introducing First
from Houston, TX.

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He is the father of #1 hiring
drones.

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QB one.
QB one hiring drones.

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He is an assistant coach down in
Texas and I had your Kevin.

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I'm sorry I had your Twitter up
to give your school a shout out

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and I'm going to do that before
I pull you on because that's

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just who I am.
He is the an assistant coach for

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Clearbrook Football and
Clearbrook Minton's track.

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He is Kevin Drones.
Mr. Drones, How are you tonight,

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Sir?
I'm good.

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How y'all doing?
We are doing well.

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We We really.
Appreciate.

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Hey, drones.
What's up?

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We good?
So you got your shirt.

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Oh, yes, Sir.
Yes, Sir.

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Shirt came through today.
Y'all see it QB one?

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Hey Kevin.
Kevin looked out for me.

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They've been wearing these
things all season and I just get

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to asking questions.
I'm like, hey man, when you get

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that shirt from, he said.
You know what I got you.

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So my guy Kevin looked out for
me.

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I appreciate you.
We appreciate you coming on.

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Hey, you got the family in the
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OK.
We got some more Ronnie Super

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Anti right there.
OK.

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Nice.
Nice.

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But Kevin you started popping up
and I mentioned and watching

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weekly and hey we really
appreciate that.

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We hope you know the our our
thoughts on this stuff is we've

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all been long time Hokie fans
and the steps we saw Kyron take

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this year were unbelievable.
It it it it hearkened us back.

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I mean, I go back when in the
heyday when the Hokies were

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running 1011 games a year, going
to national championship, it it

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it made me think about that
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So we appreciate you joining us
now.

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We got one more person to bring
on, and just a few days ago,

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this young man's son committed
to Virginia Tech.

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This young man's son is the
greatest wide receiver in VHSL

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history.
Now I'm giving y'all some hints,

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right?
Pretty big hints.

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Pretty big hints.
His son attends Green Run High

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School.
He will be enrolling early in

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just a few weeks.
I loved Coach Pride the other

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day, joking with all those guys.
Y'all ready for 6:00 AM workout,

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6:00 AM workouts.
Man, they're coming fast.

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But his son is healing Brody
Adams and if y'all heard him,

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he's been on some of our spaces
before, just a few days ago with

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Tally.
Mr. Chris Lester.

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My God, what's up fellas?
How y'all doing man?

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Doing good.
Thank you so much for jumping on

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with us tonight.
Like Curtis has already talked

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about this this is loose.
We're going to keep it loose.

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But we appreciate both of y'all
jumping on with us.

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Just loving to reminisce about
where we've been this year and

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where we're going next year.
I mean that this is what this is

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all about and and just having
some fun drinking some beers

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drinking some some some spirits
here.

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So it's what we like to do
before the holidays and we thank

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you for joining us and sharing
your wisdom and and everything

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you got to say about this
program and and and the boys

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that you've helped raise and and
and and grow into the men that

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they are on the field and off
the field.

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Well hey man, I'm, I'm excited
to be on with you guys, man.

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Big fans of y'all, Definitely a
big fan of Mr. Drones man.

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You know, hadn't had a chance to
tell him.

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But man, super excited about
him, man.

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His family's amazing and his kid
was one of of many reasons why

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we decided to come to Virginia
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I'm glad to have you all
appreciate it.

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Amen.
Glad to be here from home.

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Glad to be here.
Thank you, man.

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Thank you.
Glad to be here.

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Love hearing that and it is
home.

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So I want to start with because
you just mentioned it kind of

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there, Chris, about Tyron's a
big reason and I am pronouncing

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it right.
Correct, Kevin.

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Kyron's like Byron with the
kids.

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What you told us that night,
Kyron, Because whenever.

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We got the tie rod.
The thing where we were saying

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Tyrod, it's actually Tyrod.
We were like Tyrod.

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What?
They still say Tyrod.

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They still mess with Kyra's
name.

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It's going.
To continue to be but but for

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this podcast we got corrected
quickly and we've not messed it

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up.
But I want to hit Kevin real

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quick because Kevin a year ago
Kyra made the decision to come

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to Virginia Tech in just a few
short days ago the portal.

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It was a big portal day, but can
you just He was already down at

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Baylor, so you had went through
the high school stuff and we're

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going to talk about that a
little while, Chris, But what

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was it like?
Because he's been at Baylor,

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he's already in school and I'm
sure you had a lot to you're

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you're his dad.
I'm sure a lot was discussed.

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But how did that process go last
year?

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You know, Kern kind of chose
Baylor.

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I tell people it was almost like
a prearranged marriage because

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it was COVID.
So he never got to visit

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anybody.
He never got to go on campuses.

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He everything was FaceTime, Zoom
calls, virtual visits.

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Even when he committed to
Baylor, I had to pay for us to

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go to the game and we had to go
in with everybody else.

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Like we never even met the
coaches.

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So the first time he met Aranda
in person was the day we dropped

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him off.
And that's great.

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You know, two days after he
signed, Fedora was gone.

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So it was, you know, if it had,
if it worked, the best thing

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that happened for him was, you
know, that Thursday night he got

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in that game against West
Virginia and nobody else was

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really playing.
So that was the best thing that

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happened.
You know that pretty much that

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night I think I kind of knew.
Well, we kind of already knew.

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We were just hoping he can get
on the field and get filmed, you

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know, because the one thing that
was scary about the portal, you

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go in and you hear these horror
stories and you're like, he

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hadn't got any films.
So I don't want to go in and not

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have an exit plan.
So, you know, once that

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happened, I felt better about
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It's still scary.
You know that Monday morning

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when you officially in and you
know, I remember talking to him

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about 11:00 and he was like and
I thought I'd have more, you

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know, calls coming.
But then he had lunch with

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Tebow.
About an hour later, I talked to

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him and.
His whole voice.

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Changed and I was like.
Thank you.

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You know at the time that I had
two.

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Boys in the portal, so it.
Was it was extra nervous, you

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know?
It was, you know, I was

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actually.
I thought that.

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Karen was going to meet PJ Flett
for Jeremiah.

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So it was.
I was all over the place.

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So, but yeah, so it was a scary
feeling.

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But you know, Virginia Tech's
the only visit he ever took, you

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know?
Good.

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That would be glad we fucking
glad.

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It was gig.
They made a big impression.

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You know, Tebow being down
there, the first day, that was

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huge for Kern because he didn't
want to post anything.

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He didn't want offers because
other people were offering.

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He wanted it to be genuine and
organic.

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And you know, we went there.
It was big for Coach Pry and

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them to to have us there first,
you know, because we knew some

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of the other ones.
Kern was the elite 11 with one

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of the other quarterbacks that
they were bringing from Penn

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State.
And, you know, so it was huge

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for us and it went a long way
for Kern, for them to bring him

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in first.
And you know when he, they put

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#1 on him and he went to Lane
Stadium for the photo shoot and

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they didn't realize he had been
number one since Lily, and he

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didn't.
Really be number.

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One.
So when they did it, I was.

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Like, man, that brings back
memory.

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I've got chills.
And he was like, they give me

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#1, it's done.
Yeah, I'm going to tell you a

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little bit from from our
perspective and a fan

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perspective of what we was
looking at while y'all was going

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through that.
So just had went through a

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season three wins, didn't get to
play the last game against UVA

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because of a tragedy of still RP
to the young men there.

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So we were kind of, you know, we
did end the season on a high

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note, which was great as far as
the win versus Liberty.

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But again, you only won three
games, lost a lot of close

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games.
This podcast, as well as a lot

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of fans included, knew we needed
a playmaker at quarterback.

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Like we knew it.
You know, no disrespect to any

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player or coaches that are on
the staff or players that were

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on the team.
I know those young men put their

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hearts on the line, but we knew
we needed a playmaker.

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I'm going to go ahead and say I
told them we need a black

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quarterback.
I'm just saying that's what I

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said.
But when I say that

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realistically we needed a dual
threat quarterback.

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So when we see a offer go out to
your son, to Kyron, we

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immediately start digging for
film.

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You know, high school stuff.
We start digging for, you know,

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him playing against West
Virginia.

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We start looking at message
boards.

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We start.
We started looking at what the

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fans at Baylor had to say when
he was leaving because.

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When you get involved in, in,
in, in like we are in, in

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football, like you just search,
you ain't got nothing to do but

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search for stuff.
So like, the Baylor fans were

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distraught.
It was like, oh God, why is he

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leaving?
You know, he was going to be the

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future, blah, blah, blah.
So us as fans, this BCP podcast,

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we were thinking like, oh, we
know we got something, but you

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got so many fans that are just
kind of die hard, hokey fans

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that just going to say
whatever's in front of me,

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that's what I want to take.
Y'all can't talk bad about

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anybody here.
Y'all can't say that we need

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another quarterback.
We got a quarterback and I'm

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like, if they put this kid on
the field, I'm telling y'all,

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y'all are going to see that he's
different.

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He got something different.
I'm.

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I've seen it and he's got
something.

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How do you know?
Because I watch a lot of fucking

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football.
That's how I know.

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And I've seen the film on the
kid.

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He's got something different.
He comes from a great family

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that knows football.
He comes from an athletic family

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that's got college athletes all
over his family.

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It's exactly what you want in
your quarterback.

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So when we seen him get in the
Porter and we seen him y'all

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kind of sneak up and take that
visit to Blacksburg, when Jeremy

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probably heard the music playing
and they started telling us

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about that was.
Hilarious.

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Why?
I realized what Hokey Nation was

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about.
That was why.

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Oh yeah, like I didn't even know
currently the picture.

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He took a picture of his feet at
the airport and we started, I'm

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looking on message boards and
they're going, hey, we know that

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there's a 655 flight going up,
man.

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Like I said.
I don't know what Y'all was

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dealing with, but on our end it
was going nuts, like people

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watching Evan Watkins the whole
time.

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People are tracking, people are
tracking lights on the kids

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page.
They knew your wife New you.

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We do.
People follow.

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We do.
We follow.

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We follow.
Listen, hulking nation is is

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unbeaten.
We we a little rabbit.

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We a little rabbit.
Dude, I got so many.

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I got so many.
Messages over his clips.

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When the game in West Virginia,
we were just breaking it down.

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We're just like, what was he
looking at here?

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Every day arguing.
Mission making.

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We were doing this constantly.
Me.

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Absolutely.
So we we we got a lot of chats.

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We don't we're on Twitter a lot.
I I was beating the drum of QB

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one the second I saw the West
Virginia tape.

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The second I saw the West
Virginia tape, I was beating

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that drum because because me and
Brian talked about this, he's

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like he went in cold that game
in Morgantown, which for all of

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us down here, Jeremy, I think,
did you go there as an undergrad

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to a game to Morgantown?
Yes, I've I've went to

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Morgantown.
A few times.

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For a few for a few shows.
I've never actually went to a

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game though, But Morgantown's
Wild, It's Wild and.

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Especially when.
You half of the clubs you own is

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Vt gear.
It's wild.

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West Virginia Looks like
somebody stepped straight out of

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00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,920
the hills Have eyes.
I don't never have to fucking go

451
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,160
to West Virginia.
It's.

452
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,960
Like hot tubs in it.
It's insane.

453
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,320
It is dirty.
It is a dirty town and not New

454
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,480
Orleans dirty.
That's a fun dirty.

455
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,600
It is a.
Dirty town in a bad way.

456
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,160
But, but Brian and Tally were
like watching that, watching

457
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,360
that game.
And it was like, he's cold

458
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,800
making these throws, he's cold.
It was.

459
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,960
It's the poise to me.
It was the poise to me.

460
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,040
It was the poise.
He would.

461
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,640
He never looked like the moment
was too big.

462
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,120
Playing from behind, playing on
the road, playing in that

463
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:10,360
environment.
It never was too big for him.

464
00:24:10,360 --> 00:24:12,520
And that was big for somebody
coming in cold like that.

465
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,600
For me, you know, when you talk
about like mechanics and when

466
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,320
you talk about like everything
else, like you, those are things

467
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,280
that you can grow into Once
you're once you're a starter,

468
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,760
once you're a player.
But you can't.

469
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,720
It's really hard to coach the
poise in those types of moments

470
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,200
and when you have that, that's
something that you really it's

471
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,280
it's it's it's it's hard to
replicate and when you have that

472
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,960
in a quarterback, that's really
important.

473
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,280
Yeah, he he's always been, you
know, never too high, never too

474
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,280
low.
You know about this.

475
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,800
I mean we were in a playoff game
his junior year year we wanted

476
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,400
and you know, he throws 2 picks
in the first half and I think

477
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,360
everybody thought I was fixing
to go in there and you know, be

478
00:24:57,360 --> 00:25:00,960
the be the big bad wolf.
Didn't I just, I just took him

479
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,960
to the bathroom and said, hey,
you built for this moment right

480
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,520
here, hey, take care of the ball
and go win the game.

481
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,200
And he just looked at me and was
like, I got you and it was like

482
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,680
second-half he put on his cake
and I just couldn't believe it.

483
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,600
I mean, but he's always just
kind of been almost too much.

484
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,560
Like, I remember being him being
young and we had to tell him

485
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,760
like, hey, you scored a
touchdown, you got to celebrate

486
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,080
with your teammates, like you
just run off the field.

487
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,400
Like that's what it's supposed
to be in business and union.

488
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,680
I will say though, even kill
like that is so important on

489
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,000
offense, like defense you you
want somebody with a lot of gas

490
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,400
offense having that even kill
demeanor.

491
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,000
Is important like tie rods
demeanor.

492
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,400
That is a good way to put it.
Super, even kill.

493
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,800
But look, we don't want to.
We got somebody else on here, so

494
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,920
we want to we want to throw some
stuff at you as well.

495
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,120
Chris, a little bit different
from you because you got a high

496
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:54,120
school student that was able to
take some visits, a lot of

497
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:58,400
visits, had a lot of people
knocking at your door all year.

498
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,240
You are there in Virginia, so
you kind of know what the

499
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,760
Virginia landscape looks like as
far as football, high school

500
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,760
kids as well as the college
stuff.

501
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:11,200
And you said some earlier.
You say it.

502
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,400
You know drones was a little bit
of the reason why y'all looked

503
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,280
at Virginia Tech.
Ask you a little bit about

504
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,560
y'all's journey of how y'all
committed.

505
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,480
You know what I'm saying?
And and and how you felt about

506
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,680
Virginia Tech being the the, the
pick.

507
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,360
Oh well.
Listen, I I consider been

508
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:33,720
listening big to Kevin all night
about that situation because

509
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,280
Kyron was a a huge part of it
but for for us.

510
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,240
But our situation was one thing
that I always took when we took

511
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,520
visits, different places.
I was out, like taking notes

512
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,840
about everything.
And the one thing that I took

513
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:54,400
was from a Virginia Tech
favorite, Patton Narduzzi, do

514
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,760
your homework.
And I and I, and I'm going to be

515
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,880
honest with you, Kevin, you can
kind of attest to this.

516
00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:04,520
I could not understand how any
person does this by themselves.

517
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,040
I don't care if you're a single
father, single mother.

518
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,000
I don't know how you do this
because I'll be totally honest

519
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,760
with you, without my wife, we
probably have been somewhere

520
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,720
totally different because she
had the ability to vet people.

521
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,520
And I'm just a big football nut,
so I'm going into places, right?

522
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,320
I'm looking at the helmets, the
gloves, the kid.

523
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,320
The kid is like, hey, I just
want to be here for the

524
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,840
pictures.
And I'm like, I but she really

525
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,520
vetted people and watch them.
So Narjoozi told me, you know,

526
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,520
hey, do my homework.
And so I did my homework.

527
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,240
So when we came up to Virginia
Tech in June of 22 I I was just

528
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,840
I'm be honest with you, I had.
I didn't want anything to do

529
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,000
with Virginia Tech.
Quick background story.

530
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,240
Sean Mitchell is the was the all
time leading passer for

531
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,280
touchdown completions and yards
in the state of Virginia.

532
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:59,040
That's my nephew and Beamer had
gave him a scholarship offer.

533
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,720
He was going to Virginia Tech
and I was hyped about it.

534
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,240
Fuentes came in, pulled his
offer.

535
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,960
Now he ended up going to William
and Mary, went play ball one of

536
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,760
Connecticut, got, got his
masters and he's doing great.

537
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,240
But I hated the fact that he was
511.

538
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,000
One is too short and he didn't
get, he didn't get the offer, so

539
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,480
I wasn't really feeling Virginia
Tech.

540
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,320
So but when we went up there, I
wasn't man.

541
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,520
I was like man, bump this.
I'm just going over here just to

542
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,960
go up, if it makes you feel.
Better We weren't really feeling

543
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,640
Fuente either.
We're.

544
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,520
In agreement with that.
But I think the one thing that

545
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,280
we always did, like when you
talk about West Virginia, there

546
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,760
were visits that we took that we
got out the car, we were praying

547
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,640
and say, hey man, we just up
here just to make sure that they

548
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,320
see us get the pictures and
people know who we are and

549
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,560
that's what we did.
But from the moment we stepped

550
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:55,960
on campus at Virginia Tech, man,
it was, it was just, it was

551
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,880
crazy because I was like I told
Keelan this.

552
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,920
I said, man, listen, you can go
anywhere and play in the

553
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,480
country, but if you come up here
and play well, you'll be a

554
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,440
legend.
And I told him that the very

555
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,400
first time I can.
I said you will be an absolute

556
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,760
legend.
Here they are dying for kids

557
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:16,080
like you and you'll go do it.
But I think our process was, you

558
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,240
know, we went a lot of places.
We saw a lot of.

559
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,640
Different facilities.
We would grade everything and we

560
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,160
would come back and look at it.
I mean, we were committed to

561
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,880
Ohio State at one time.
We was committed to West

562
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,080
Virginia one time.
We was committed.

563
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,120
I mean, like to ourselves, we
were going to be like, yeah, I'm

564
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,280
going here, yo, I'm going here,
yo, I'm going here.

565
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,360
And I I can tell the story, you
know now.

566
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,280
There was never a point where I
felt pressure from this staff

567
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,440
for him to come.
Like the when we were going

568
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,440
three and eight, I was sitting
and watching the game and I

569
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,440
wanted to see pride crack.
That's what I wanted to see.

570
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,520
I wanted to see how he would act
if there was a tight game.

571
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,200
They blew it and who he was
going to throw underneath the

572
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:02,320
bus.
And if y'all follow me on

573
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,520
Twitter, I'd say that all the
time.

574
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,720
And he never cracked.
He never blew up on his team.

575
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,400
He would.
And everybody said, oh, he's a

576
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,880
salesman.
He says I got to be better.

577
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,600
I'm learning.
I'm understanding it.

578
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,320
So through that whole year, I
was like something different

579
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,160
with this, with that dude right
there.

580
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,120
So when we went to other places,
went to Penn State, they made us

581
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,000
feel like we should be honored
that Penn State wanted us.

582
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,200
And we didn't feel that.
We didn't feel that.

583
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,440
I ended up meeting Chance
Wiggins up there, though.

584
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,800
That was a good thing I got.
I got a chance to meet him, meet

585
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,600
his mom and things of that
nature.

586
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,360
When we went to Alabama, we were
going to take Alabama's visit.

587
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,880
I don't care what nobody said.
We were taking that visit.

588
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,960
Now.
We would never ever going to

589
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,920
Alabama, but we were taking that
visit because we wanted to see

590
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,360
how the sausage was made and I
wanted the front of them.

591
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,320
Yeah, I wanted the son of my
friends to say I had a picture

592
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,680
with Nick Saban.
I'm going to be totally.

593
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,720
Honest.
Dude, I was talking.

594
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,960
I was talking.
Cold trash to my homies.

595
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,560
I was like, yo, I got a picture
with Tricky Nick.

596
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,680
I'm the man it was.
Funny to me.

597
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,880
We, we were going to go to
Florida State.

598
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,600
Just couldn't work the details
of that.

599
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,960
Tennessee was super duper
arrogant.

600
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,720
They were like, hey, well, you
know, if you don't come out

601
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,200
here, tell us 10 hours away, you
know we won't commit the offer.

602
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,840
And Sheila was like, I'll drive
to Ohio, I'll go to Ohio State,

603
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:32,160
But Tennessee ain't Ohio State.
So me and him, our bond grew

604
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,680
closer going to Ohio State
because we went up one night at

605
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,360
night through the mountains.
We had to take the Turnpike.

606
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,400
I've never been so happy to see
small towns in my life going

607
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,200
through the mountains of of
Virginia, getting up to Ohio

608
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,640
State.
He would you know, he was he

609
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,360
loved Ohio State.
But by doing our homework, we're

610
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,880
able to you know break that down
so we would turn around.

611
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,160
It was in.
We came back up in March and I

612
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,760
think we took one summer visit
and I met Kyron.

613
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,560
So I.
Meet Kyron.

614
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,000
Right.
And he's just standing in the

615
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,720
weight room on the wall with
Ollie Jennings and he's just

616
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,640
standing there like nothing's
going on.

617
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,640
He's just so cool, so laid back.
And I said it's something about

618
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,560
that kid right there.
There's just something different

619
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,640
about him.
And Key was like, what you mean?

620
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,040
I said.
Because he's not over the top.

621
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,760
His demeeter is low.
He had his work bag.

622
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,840
He had already Him and Ali had
already worked out.

623
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,920
And I said I like that kid.
I like that kid a lot, he said.

624
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,320
And you know, Keelan's a
football player and Kevin, you

625
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,400
know how that is.
Football players just look at

626
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,400
football players like, OK, he's
a football player.

627
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,800
Got to your player.
I don't know who he is, but me,

628
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,200
I did all the things Y'all did.
I wouldn't watch this Elite 11

629
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,000
tape.
I watched this West Virginia

630
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,480
tape.
I was like, yo, that dude right

631
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,320
there might be the truth.
And you know, everybody's

632
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,200
looking for that next guy, you
know.

633
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,160
And because of the history of
Virginia Tech and things of that

634
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,000
nature, So I was like, yeah, he
kind of reminded me of coming

635
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,360
in.
Coming to Castle was really,

636
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,840
really good.
So but his demeanor is what got

637
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,600
me.
And man, the process was easy,

638
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,600
man.
When we got, we did our four, we

639
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,720
had four official visits.
I I was always honest with

640
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,760
everybody.
I told them ahead of time if I

641
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,520
was coming, if I was coming.
Our first visit was Pittsburgh.

642
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,880
I called him.
I said we ain't going to Pitt.

643
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,560
Narduzzi was really mean to
people that I saw and I and I

644
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,360
told them early, hey, we're not,
we put you on the list, but

645
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,640
we're not coming.
Ohio State, we had kind of

646
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,960
looked at the numbers.
You know, three of the top #1

647
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,320
wide receivers in the country
had gone up there.

648
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,840
They had the number four.
They had a lot of guys.

649
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,720
And I I never shield away from
competition.

650
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,400
But I understood this one part.
He's a Virginia player.

651
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,840
If he goes to Ohio, even though
he was from even though he was

652
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,840
born in Ohio and he lived in
Ohio, he was an Ohio Prada.

653
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,720
So they're just going to say,
hey, this is the number one

654
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,000
recruit, #1 wide receiver out of
Virginia, that's great.

655
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,880
They got a guy up there right
now, Noah Rogers, he's the

656
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,840
number one guy out of the 23
class or 22/20/22 or 23 class

657
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,360
from North Carolina.
He went to Ohio State and he

658
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,920
can't get on the field.
So I told Key, I said, listen,

659
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,040
the goal is if you want to go to
the league, you got to be able

660
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,040
to get on the field A.
Lot of kids that come out of

661
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,199
Virginia right now.
Yeah, absolutely.

662
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,639
And.
They get it.

663
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:28,719
Oh yeah, that was.
Well that was that.

664
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,679
That's, that's another crazy
story because that was the first

665
00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,400
offer he got was from UNC.
And we were kind of like, yeah,

666
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,800
UNC, UNC.
And then we got there and wide

667
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,360
receiver coach never called me.
I kind of said OK we're we're

668
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,480
not going to deal with them.
But we we're from there.

669
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,560
Because Kevin, I don't know if
you caught this.

670
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,480
If they don't call and talk to
me, I don't really feel that

671
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,199
they're interested in me.
If the recruiting assistant or

672
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,360
somebody like that, they call,
OK.

673
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,560
But if I don't talk to the OC or
the head coach or the wide

674
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,080
receiver coach, they're not
really that interested in us.

675
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,160
So why do you say that?
Because.

676
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,200
When Karen left Baylor, they
they wanted to have a meeting

677
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,760
with us.
So I'm thinking we're going to

678
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,040
have a meeting with all of us
and.

679
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:10,960
It.
Turned out it.

680
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,360
Was I never.
I never once talked to the OC

681
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,560
and never talked to the head
coach and.

682
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,040
It.
Was just the quarterback coach

683
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,120
calling me and I'm like, I've
been talking to you.

684
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,240
I'm I'm done with you.
We've already moved on from this

685
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,000
you.
Know on the.

686
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,280
Field, you know, on the OC
didn't reach out.

687
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,720
So I was like, I'm done, you
know, I talked to.

688
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:32,200
Her.
Random.

689
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,120
So I was like, I'm good and I
want to, I want to say something

690
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,120
right quick.
Why?

691
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,800
Why?
Something that Chris said

692
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,760
earlier that I talk about in
some spaces, and I know these

693
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:47,760
two guys can talk about as well.
I I wasn't recruited on the

694
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,360
level that their kids have been
recruited.

695
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,560
But when you go through
recruiting stuff, like I came

696
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,280
from a single mom home, you
know, and my mom didn't know a

697
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,480
lot of stuff.
She didn't, she didn't know

698
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,080
about visits, She didn't know
who to talk to.

699
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,960
So it was like, OK, this coach
is going to be the one that's

700
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,400
going to help you.
Like if you don't have the

701
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,320
people that's showing you the
right stuff in in schools know

702
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,880
that.
They know when they have

703
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,960
somebody that's vulnerable.
Like when you have a a father

704
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,160
that's a football fan or a
father that's a football coach,

705
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,880
You know what I'm saying?
These, these sometimes the

706
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,000
schools get intimidated to
recruit the kids because they

707
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,080
don't want to.
They just want that kid.

708
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,240
But we can mow with him and do
what he want.

709
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,480
We don't care about his family,
his mom and things like that.

710
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,440
We don't want that input.
We just want to take them and do

711
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,080
what we want with them.
So when you talk about having

712
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,560
that family around, when I
talked about how our coaches

713
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,280
recruit, like recruiting is a
it's a long game, man.

714
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,040
You got to know who cut the kids
hair.

715
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,040
You got to know the father, You
got to know the uncle.

716
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,000
You got to know where they get
the sandwiches from in their

717
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,520
family.
Because you don't know who is

718
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,840
going to have the influence on
that kid or who is going to be

719
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,840
the one that's going to talk to
that kid that's going to make

720
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,640
that kid open his eyes to the
school.

721
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,360
So for you, that's what he did.
Yeah.

722
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:04,760
Yeah.
He was like.

723
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,000
I got to know like.
If something's going on and like

724
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,320
we can't keep a hold of him,
like and like he's getting to

725
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,360
college and doing whatever, I
need to know.

726
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,240
Like, he's got a good
relationship with his mom.

727
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:24,200
Like, I need to know, hey, does
this kid, like, does he have a

728
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,520
lot of connections to like, his
family, his friends, everything

729
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,280
else?
And that's a lot of things that

730
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,680
they looked at.
And family relationships are

731
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,720
huge in these situations.
And I think that's overlooked a

732
00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:37,640
lot of times.
Definitely, Chris, you were.

733
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Talking about vetting.
They didn't even realize it

734
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,880
until I told them.
After Karen got there, I talked

735
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,400
to him and hook experience.
Because I wanted to know the

736
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,160
good.
End of that.

737
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:53,000
So I wanted to know if and they
had nothing bad to say and I'm

738
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,160
like this kid just transferred
from there and they didn't have

739
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,200
anything negative to say.
Well, they should went to

740
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,280
Virginia Tech.
And got in the.

741
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,080
Situation had to leave.
He's at Illinois.

742
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,880
I talked.
To his parents.

743
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:11,160
That had nothing to say bad.
So it was like, you know, even

744
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,640
the people that had to leave
didn't have.

745
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,800
Anything.
Negative to say so everything

746
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,880
that I so that's what you know,
people don't realize.

747
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,360
Like I reached out to a little
bit of everybody because, again,

748
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,160
just like the Baylor situation,
Karen wanted to go to Auburn.

749
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,760
They don't go to Auburn.
And the day he was ready to

750
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,400
commit, I was like, Karen,
they're hot and cold on.

751
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,360
Miles on every.
Other year, yes and I, yeah.

752
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,040
And there you go.
We know Chad's not going to be

753
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,120
there because.
If he was going to be there,

754
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,720
then Chandler wouldn't went to
Oklahoma, right?

755
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,640
He's not going to be there.
So are you really ready to go to

756
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,600
Auburn?
You've never been, you've never

757
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,440
played a game since you were
three where nobody was there.

758
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,000
And I have to be real with you
as a dad.

759
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:56,480
Because if I don't.
Tell you I.

760
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,480
Don't want you to walk out the
locker room the first time and

761
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,000
we're not there.
Nobody's there.

762
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,880
And then you feel some kind of
way and you're that far away

763
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:04,880
and.
It's a Kim.

764
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,680
That's why he went to Baylor,
because it was in state and it

765
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,600
was he was 17 years old, leaving
in January and.

766
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,000
He just wasn't ready.
But at this time, when he got in

767
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,360
the portal, now he's 19, he's
been in college two years and it

768
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,080
was a business decision.
He was just trying to get on the

769
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,160
field.
He wanted a true competition,

770
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,800
not a sales pitch, just a true
competition.

771
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,560
Are you going to really let me
compete for the job that's also

772
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,480
talking about that?
Go ahead, Curtis.

773
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,600
Awesome to hear.
What I want to do Kevin, Chris,

774
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,280
y'all met him a lawyer earlier.
We're going to bring some other

775
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,800
folks on because I know they
have some questions and want to

776
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,920
talk to you all about some stuff
and we got other stuff we're

777
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,920
going to talk about this season.
So Brian, let's bring them on.

778
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,920
Let's start with our coaching
buddy from down at North

779
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,480
Wilkesboro High School, long
time friend of BCP podcast coach

780
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,560
Robbie Compton.
Hi, everybody.

781
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,240
There he is.
There he is.

782
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,840
We also have one.
Of the Co.

783
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,360
Host.
Of two deep.

784
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,560
PB.
Coming back again?

785
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,120
What's?
Up, fellas.

786
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:02,600
How you doing?
Oh man.

787
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,120
What's going on, man?
You.

788
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,680
Mentioned a little.
Bit earlier.

789
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,520
We got Dan from the Terrells,
from the Terra Dome, my dude.

790
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,840
My buddy, my hey, what's up?
What's good?

791
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,360
Baby, how we living?
What's all going on?

792
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,480
We're all living, I.
Wanted to bring y'all on 'cause

793
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,600
I know mid-day I got, I got a
coach in my left corner here, so

794
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,560
Kevin, Coach Robbie, coach
Robbie, Kevin.

795
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,120
I know y'all go y'all probably
going.

796
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,280
Robbie's been there for some.
Of his players, Pete and Dan

797
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,000
have their pods, awesome pods
and I know they've got

798
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,280
questions.
But let me ask this from both of

799
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,120
y'all and and kind of in general
because we some of y'all got in

800
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,920
to meet some of these coaches.
Robbie, Dan, Jeremy have.

801
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,640
Let's talk about Tyler Bowman
because Kevin, that is your

802
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,760
son's OC.
Chris, that's going to be your

803
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,400
son's OC in this upcoming
season.

804
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,480
And one of the big stories was,
and you said it day one when

805
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,560
Kyron went into the portal, he
was there and every everybody

806
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,080
knows about that.
All, all of us fans on those

807
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,640
boards.
We were like, wait a SEC.

808
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,760
Bowen's in a plane going down to
Waco today.

809
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,120
Shit, he wants that kid.
Bad.

810
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,960
Bad.
What?

811
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,120
Let's talk.
About Tyler Bowen and the

812
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,880
relationship, because obviously
he's got to have a relationship

813
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,000
with both of y'all and I know
Robbie got to meet him back at a

814
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,240
coach clinic last year.
Dan, you've met him before.

815
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,840
What's Tyler?
Come.

816
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,520
Off as to y'all meeting him, not
only the football player but the

817
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,520
human being.
And I'll let you go ahead and

818
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,640
start Kevin, just really.
Genuine.

819
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,480
You know, open, open
relationship.

820
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,840
You know, I it's funny, 'cause
it was two kids in the portal

821
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,000
and I know me and Tally were
going back and forth.

822
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,200
Kids were going in the portal.
If I had a relationship with

823
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,840
them, I was shooting it too.
Boeing.

824
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,040
It was like, hey, if y'all want
in on these guys or y'all, if I

825
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,640
can help in any kind of way, let
me know.

826
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:58,440
And you know, it was that
openness that I haven't had with

827
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,800
other coaches.
And like I said, I got, I got

828
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,360
two kids that are in two
different schools in their

829
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,920
second school apiece and I
didn't have that relationship

830
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:09,720
with those guys.
But I feel comfortable and it's

831
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:12,240
no threat.
I'm never going to be, you know,

832
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,200
I'm a coach, so I always tell
them the last thing I want is

833
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,840
I'm never going to be that
parent to hover over and do all

834
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,720
of that.
Your decisions are your

835
00:42:20,720 --> 00:42:22,600
decisions.
Everything's going to work

836
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,200
yourself out like it should.
You know in the end.

837
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,120
As long as you keep doing your
work, everything else will work

838
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,680
yourself out.
But Boeing?

839
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,400
The whole off, that whole staff.
I'll tell you, Coach Pry.

840
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Everybody.
'S open book and when I say make

841
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,200
you feel at home and like
family, like you don't have,

842
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,520
don't hesitate to call them and
they actually mean it.

843
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,440
It's not just something they say
like.

844
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,520
And that's across the board
that's defense.

845
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,240
You know, my friend brother is
Marv.

846
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,360
So I get there and talk to him.
I mean, I'm around those guys

847
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,800
all the time, you know, because
I'm at every game.

848
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,840
So in being able to see and talk
and and I was so happy for them

849
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,680
this season, you know, seeing
how level they were, you could

850
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,360
see them getting better and
wasn't showing up on wins early.

851
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,680
But you can see it happening.
It's just it's got to just take

852
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,240
its course.
And then when that pit game

853
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:11,800
happened, you can kind of see it
turn.

854
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,400
They just needed some, they
needed some confirmation of what

855
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,680
they were doing with work and it
kind of worked and you know you

856
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,840
have some slip UPS but that
happens.

857
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,400
But now you see the momentum
with everybody coming back.

858
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,080
We got a great recruiting class
coming in and I think everybody

859
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,520
is turning for the better and
everybody's kind of seeing it.

860
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,960
I mean even talking to, you
know, you talk to parents in

861
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,440
our, in our, you know, we have
our own parking lot and all that

862
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,320
stuff and you know you go out
there, this is the most.

863
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,400
Optimistic the fan base has been
since 2012.

864
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,800
After the sugar.
Bowl I mean, we could, we can

865
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,120
say the ACC Championship game in
2016, but honestly, whenever we

866
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,000
were there and we lost, I was
just kind of like we were

867
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,720
probably going to lose.
It feels like we.

868
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,840
Are legitimately building a
program and it's just like we

869
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,320
are like striking out and maybe
doing it feels like it was back

870
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,320
in the day whenever I first came
here in O 4 what we were.

871
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,120
That's what it's feeling like
right now.

872
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,320
It's the trajectory.
Everything feels like we're

873
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:19,920
heading on the upper path right
now and I think that's.

874
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,040
Something.
That we haven't really

875
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:24,520
experienced in a while and I
mean let me let me throw this at

876
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,440
you Chris because I know with
with the 757 connection for the

877
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,840
longest time we have had
struggles recruiting that

878
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,360
especially after in the 2000s
where that was our bread and

879
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,560
butter.
I did for a for a decade it was.

880
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,120
Dry.
It was dry.

881
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,400
Yeah, so.
I mean, talk about that a little

882
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,480
bit.
I mean, it was.

883
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:50,640
You, you said it best.
I mean, you know, like, I'm not

884
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,560
originally from here.
I mean, I'm from Charlotte.

885
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,280
I'm from North Carolina.
So the Navy brought me here.

886
00:44:55,480 --> 00:45:01,640
But from 1999 to 2006, man,
listen, man, this was every time

887
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,920
you turned around, it was
Virginia.

888
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,600
Take something, Virginia, take
this, that and the third.

889
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:10,000
So like I said on Twitter, a lot
of time it's like a time

890
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,640
machine, the 23 class and those
guys brought us back to the

891
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,360
beginning or the heyday or we
aren't quite there yet, but

892
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,080
we're just so excited about
Virginia Tech football.

893
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:26,000
But going back to what you were
saying man with with Tebow, I

894
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:31,720
mean this this staff is a staff
of men and and Kevin I think you

895
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:34,360
can follow me on this.
You know you feel good when you

896
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,560
talk to them that you going to
get a straight answer from them.

897
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,600
You're not going to get no song
and dance.

898
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,360
You're not going to get no him
in and hard.

899
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,520
They're going to shoot it to you
straight.

900
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:47,800
And so that's what I love about
Tebow and and I love the

901
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,520
progression that he's taking
because you got to remember he

902
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,760
loses his quarterback coach in
the in the in, you know in the

903
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,320
middle of the summer and he's
saying hey, I'm going to be the

904
00:45:56,320 --> 00:46:00,800
quarterback coach and the OC.
So now I got two different guys

905
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,560
quarterbacking.
I got a pocket passer and I got

906
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,720
a dual threat guy.
And for him to turn around in

907
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:10,520
midstream, to turn around and
said, OK, this pocket passer

908
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,400
thing ain't working.
Let me work to to my other

909
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,760
quarterback's strengths and to
flip his offense to be able to

910
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,920
do that.
Because the one thing Tebow will

911
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,720
say to you more than anything
else, Kevin, he says that I'm

912
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:24,960
going to get you to rock.
That was every time he texts me.

913
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,800
It's like, let me get you to
rock.

914
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,280
So I just called.
Hey, you going to get me to

915
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,680
rock?
And he's going to get the ball

916
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,920
into his Playmakers hands, but
he needed a guy to be able to do

917
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,960
that.
So you know when I was going on

918
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,920
Twitter and seeing folks, I was
like, hey, listen, if Grant

919
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,160
Wells works out well this year
because he's got better weapons

920
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,000
because dude, he had one guy who
turned around the year after

921
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,880
quit football.
He had another wide receiver man

922
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,200
who was a a hard working guy And
a big part of why we liked it

923
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,120
there, because when we first
time we met Daquan Lofton, he

924
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,000
was in there working.
He was in there working out

925
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,640
trying to get better, trying to
do his thing.

926
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:01,520
But he was limited, you know,
and we all saw that, you know,

927
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:02,920
I'm not not no knock against
him.

928
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:07,320
He was limited.
So you give Grant Wells premier

929
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,080
pieces.
You know Ollie Jennings, Jana

930
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,800
Lane, who killed Miami, who's a,
who's a blazer, You get a Avatar

931
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,240
and Taquan Felton, you know what
I'm saying?

932
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,960
I mean a flat out monster.
You can't help but get better.

933
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,440
I play basketball, so I knew I
was better if I had guys who

934
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,960
could shoot on the wing.
So I understood that.

935
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,720
So you get those pieces of
place.

936
00:47:28,720 --> 00:47:31,040
If he works, it works out.
But.

937
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,200
If something happens.
That the other guy gets in.

938
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,120
It was going to work out anyway,
man.

939
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,600
People excoriated me on Twitter
like, oh man, you don't know

940
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,640
nothing.
You don't know this.

941
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,320
I'm like, I'm just trying to be
positive about either direction.

942
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,760
But for Tebow to turn around and
take his offense second game of

943
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,440
the season, flip it, and within
two games give you the monster

944
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,640
that's going to score at minimum
30 points if it's in their

945
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,840
favor.
I I you can't.

946
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,040
You can't do nothing but get
that guy.

947
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,680
Your hats off to that guy.
I know, I know.

948
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,480
I was actually on the programs
and I was full on, just like for

949
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,800
a while I was really upset with
the way things were going and

950
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:13,280
then everything turned around.
I mean, it is full on at this

951
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,000
point.
It is full on Trust I.

952
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,800
Mean.
Like you got I get a.

953
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,640
Lot of.
Go ahead, Go ahead, Chris.

954
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,680
I was going to say I get a.
Lot of I get a lot of

955
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,520
interaction on Twitter.
I think the most interaction

956
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,360
that I've ever got on Twitter on
any post that I've post was I

957
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:36,680
posted a picture of Kyron and
said this should have been my QB

958
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:40,640
one and they they ate me up.
It was.

959
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,320
It may have had like 500 likes,
but it was so many people in

960
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,080
there.
I was getting so many messages

961
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,920
and I kept telling people I was
like, I watched too much

962
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,400
football to argue with y'all
this kid.

963
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,680
That's.
The piece though, That's the

964
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,920
piece, if you weren't just
saying, Nah, let me, let me go

965
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,000
real quick.
Let me go real quick.

966
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,840
Let me go real quick.
This podcast.

967
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:10,520
After the spring.
Game said it Howard Jones should

968
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:11,840
be cute.
We said it.

969
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,560
It's Robert.
Rules if you ain't never been in

970
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,560
a fraternity meeting, Kevin, you
know what I'm talking about.

971
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,200
Listen, man, I.
Mean we got, we got to be, we

972
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,720
said listen, we got to be real,
we got to be real talking.

973
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:26,000
People were saying, did you see
him in the spring game?

974
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,920
You know, did you see Kyle?
I said he and we said fuck yeah.

975
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,640
We did.
That's why we're saying this,

976
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,880
he.
Got a he got a non contact

977
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,320
jersey on, I said.
There's not. 1.

978
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,520
Player on that defense that's
going to tackle him.

979
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,840
I said, did you say he looked
like Cam Newton?

980
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,800
Like he he's just his physical
stature.

981
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,600
If you watch a football player,
I said he is not going down with

982
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,320
with somebody grabbing him, like
grabbing his jersey.

983
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,280
It's very it's not very often
that that kid is going to go

984
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,440
down.
So that's the conversations that

985
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,480
we was having and when he got
in, oh, go ahead.

986
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,680
I was just saying like when
people were doing all of that

987
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,160
and I was listening to, you
know, I listen to everything

988
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:07,520
and.
And.

989
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:14,360
My boy Chris Coleman was was
eating him up, you know, and the

990
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:19,160
spring game and I was just going
to you can't simulate what he

991
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,200
does in a practice or spring
game because you're going to

992
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,800
have a quick whistle.
What you think is a tackle in a

993
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,880
tackle, what you think is a sack
and a sack.

994
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,840
What he, unless you know him and
you've watched him play, you

995
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,160
don't know.
I remember Karen calling me and

996
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,200
saying he and Marv got into it
because they called him short on

997
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,720
1/3 down and he said he looked
at Marvin was like, you know,

998
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:46,360
your guy's not tackling.
I love that but.

999
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,520
That's and.
I was like, they can't mimic

1000
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,080
that.
So when you know, mimic it.

1001
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:51,960
When?
If you go.

1002
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,480
Name it If you I knew he's a
gamer.

1003
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,160
He's a gamer.
It's a lot like whenever Hindon

1004
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,400
came in and Hindon just came
into the games and he was

1005
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,040
dominating.
That's what it reminds me of,

1006
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,720
but I got.
I got to bring, I got to bring

1007
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:10,880
Pete in right here because I
want Pete to talk just a little

1008
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,040
bit because he's been super on
with so much stuff that he said

1009
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,160
this year, even though he put a
ugly picture out drinking beer

1010
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,200
out of a mannequin's ass or
something like that.

1011
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,320
He's been.
He's been super on with.

1012
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,040
So much stuff to be said.
With the comparison of the team

1013
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,160
and he said something about
Kyron, maybe the last time he

1014
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:39,040
was on, when he said it's not so
much that the team just changed

1015
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,400
when Karen got in.
But they believed in him.

1016
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,480
The team believed that he could
lead him to a win like Pete.

1017
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,440
I'm going to let you talk a
little bit about what you said

1018
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,720
and what you said this year.
Yeah, well.

1019
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,760
What I said on the podcast a
couple weeks ago, and we talked

1020
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,800
about that, is just that when
players believe they can win,

1021
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,720
they will just play better.
And I think there was part of

1022
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:03,680
the team, and we saw it in the
Purdue game.

1023
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:07,640
We saw it a little bit in the
ODU game that there was a little

1024
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:11,360
bit of a lack of juice and and
we saw it Once the pit game

1025
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,040
started and the offense looked a
little bit different, it's like,

1026
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,920
oh, OK, these guys actually
believe they have a chance to

1027
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,200
win.
And I think Kyron was a huge

1028
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:24,360
part of that.
And I actually wanted to one,

1029
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,760
I'm glad Fedora never got a hold
of your son there, Kevin,

1030
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,000
because we're not.
I'm not a huge fan of Larry

1031
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,160
Fedora, but that's.
But that's a different topic.

1032
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:32,560
And I'm glad he's at Virginia
Tech.

1033
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,600
But the pit game, I think one of
you guys said it, it was

1034
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,480
validation.
You trusted the process

1035
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,520
throughout.
But leading it up into the

1036
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,880
season and this is something I
think the guys wanted to do, was

1037
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,680
a state of the program in a
retrospective.

1038
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:50,520
Kyron didn't win the starting
job, and that was because you

1039
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,240
can't simulate his strengths in
practice, just as you said.

1040
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,080
And so even if he is a gamer,
he's a gamer.

1041
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,560
That's fine.
He is a gamer.

1042
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,680
But the other fact of the matter
is he's also just he was also

1043
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:03,360
just better.
He was better.

1044
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,160
He wasn't able to exhibit it in
practice and a lot of people

1045
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,960
said that was because he didn't
have the experience.

1046
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:11,200
He could throw the ball as well
as as Grant Wells.

1047
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,560
We had seen Grant Wells plays.
Because you don't light up your

1048
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,200
teammates in practice.
Yeah, you don't.

1049
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:17,960
You don't.
Do you don't?

1050
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,480
Do what Kyron did to that Purdue
linebacker as he was running

1051
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,560
towards the boundary and
literally said Mr. Drones, if

1052
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,440
you were there, that if I'm
going out out of bounds, I'm

1053
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,920
going through this guy, I'm
going through.

1054
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,960
And.
And I remember Tally sitting

1055
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,000
next to me at that game and he
said holy shit, like he just

1056
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,720
like he looked at that kid and
said fuck you, I'm going to go

1057
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,000
through you and I'm going to get
out of bounds to stop the clock.

1058
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,080
Now I'm going to, I'm going to
pick some real quick Robbie.

1059
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,720
Robbie got to see Kyron at
spring and we talked to Robbie

1060
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,720
and Robbie I I can't remember
what you said back then but it

1061
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:55,680
was just like he's a hoss and
the ball said.

1062
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,160
Coming out of his hand.
Being there like like.

1063
00:53:58,680 --> 00:53:59,520
I said.
I've I've.

1064
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:01,520
I've.
Been involved.

1065
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,720
In Virginia.
Tech football in some way for

1066
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,000
all three coaching staff that we
all know.

1067
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:08,680
I've been.
Coaching high school.

1068
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:12,960
Ball since 2:00. 1005 and I've
had kids recruited by Beamer in

1069
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:17,200
this crowd, by Puente, in this
crowd and and now with Coach

1070
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:24,320
Pratt and I mean.
Karen seemed to fit a lot more

1071
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,880
of.
What they were used to doing and

1072
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,280
when I watched them in practice,
you could just see their

1073
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,600
composure, the way the ball came
out of his hand.

1074
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,760
The way he was getting to.
Receivers.

1075
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,600
It was different than what Wells
was doing.

1076
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:39,920
And and I told.
I told Brian and Curtis right

1077
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,320
afterwards, I was like it's just
a matter of time.

1078
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,360
You know, they're they're
giving, they're giving Wells the

1079
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,080
benefit of the doubt and and he
was a great kid.

1080
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,880
You could tell there that Wells
was a leader, like he talked to

1081
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:54,840
the guys in a way that they
listen.

1082
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,280
But you could just see the pure
athletic ability and the things

1083
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,240
that that that that Kyron.
Was going.

1084
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:05,640
To bring in and.
It was just a matter.

1085
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,960
Of time until until Coach Bowens
could get everything worked out

1086
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:10,280
and knew.
That.

1087
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,760
That was going to kick in to
what they needed and.

1088
00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:18,960
Well, can I ask?
Kevin, a tough question based

1089
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,120
off what you're saying, Robert,
is just that you saw the bad

1090
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,120
offense last year with Grant
Wells.

1091
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,840
It was one of the worst P5
offenses in the modern era.

1092
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,280
It really was.
If you go through the numbers,

1093
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,120
the SP plus whatever, it was
terrible.

1094
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,160
You come to this season, the
first few weeks of the year, we

1095
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,240
have a quarterback.
He gets hurt, we put in Kyron,

1096
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:39,120
whatever.
First four games.

1097
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,240
Again, it looks bad.
It can't move the ball.

1098
00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:45,840
There's no consistency.
All the numbers in advanced way

1099
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,360
look terrible.
Did you ever waver, either as a

1100
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,680
parent or did you ever see Kyron
Waver in the process with Coach

1101
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,000
Tebow?
No the.

1102
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,640
You know, even in the Rutgers
game I I talked to, I can't

1103
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,720
remember where I was, who I was
talking to.

1104
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,760
But even in the Rutgers game,
the first half looked like his

1105
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,520
first half starting.
You know, let's be honest, he

1106
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,000
hadn't played in two years, 2
1/2 since his senior year.

1107
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,840
So it looked like that.
But then he started getting

1108
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,080
comfortable in the second-half
and you could tell when he

1109
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:20,840
started the Marshall game, I
went, I was actually, I went to

1110
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,160
the Florida State, Clemson game.
So I'm watching.

1111
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:27,720
On TV, on my phone.
And he started off good.

1112
00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:32,080
But you know, they and I knew
Tebow as a coach.

1113
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,720
I know Tebow's still working.
It out he's got.

1114
00:56:35,720 --> 00:56:38,000
Two different quarterbacks.
So now he's got to try to figure

1115
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,960
the offense out in a short
period of time so you could see

1116
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,560
them getting better.
They put up more points.

1117
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,760
They were in the game, had a
chance right there at the end

1118
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:50,200
and then we go into.
The Pit Game.

1119
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,800
The Big Pit game was.
When Pratt told.

1120
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,400
Him.
Because Karen, at that time, is

1121
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,280
still looking over his shoulder.
He doesn't.

1122
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,880
Know if Grant's.
Back, he doesn't know if the job

1123
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,720
is so now.
He's out there trying.

1124
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:06,640
To be perfect.
So, and I'm saying like, you

1125
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,960
can't, you just got to go beat
you.

1126
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:13,080
Well, credit to that staff and
that's the talk Tebow and him

1127
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,720
had with it.
Like just relax and go beat you.

1128
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,120
You're going to.
Because that's.

1129
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:18,320
They knew you.
Know, they tell.

1130
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:19,280
You.
They knew you.

1131
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:21,400
Know when Pratt said that.
He apologized to him after the

1132
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,920
game.
Pride told him.

1133
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,680
This team is going to we're
going to win games, we're going

1134
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,520
to win games behind you.
We're going to win next week

1135
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,040
because of you, because of that
or designation.

1136
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,920
That's why he apologized because
that or designation on the

1137
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,160
starting QB he.
Apologized.

1138
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,360
Because he felt.
Like we're losing.

1139
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,360
He's like, how am I going to get
a job?

1140
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,440
And we're we're we've lost two
games since I've been starting

1141
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,920
and the pit game was kind of
when he, you know, he was

1142
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:48,560
different once the hotel.
But when he kind of unleashed

1143
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,160
and did those celebrations and
all that stuff, that was really

1144
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,280
like 2 1/2 years of pent up.
I hadn't been able to play

1145
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,840
because that's not really him.
He hadn't done all of that.

1146
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,000
But he was just being cutting
loose.

1147
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,400
Like, OK, if I'm going to get,
I'm going to get loose.

1148
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:03,400
I'm not.
I'm not.

1149
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,560
He was loose then.
Because he was loose.

1150
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,600
Like when he when you talk about
that, like he had gotten to a

1151
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,400
point where he knew he wasn't
looking over his shoulder

1152
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,320
anymore so he could just go out
there and play football again.

1153
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,080
Yeah.
And then that that that's.

1154
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:19,040
Amazing to see because I mean we
saw as as the year progressed

1155
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,000
just that comfort and the
leadership really come out and

1156
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,520
on they have.
I tell you that group because

1157
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,240
they're close that all of them
like you know it's the line,

1158
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,000
it's it's base Shoal, it's felt
in his lane, it's Ali, it's you

1159
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:33,880
know.
Osnell.

1160
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,680
He he was so happy when Gosnell
got his first touchdown, you

1161
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:41,040
know, it was, it was like that
was on his mind.

1162
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,800
Like Gosnell hadn't scored since
he's been in college.

1163
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,000
Like we got to get him in the
inside.

1164
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,320
It was you.
Know he they're just they have a

1165
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:53,000
junior like APR all those guys
defensively like it's it's.

1166
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,000
A.
They have a great ball and.

1167
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,280
That is what you want, and it
kind of.

1168
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:01,120
Reminds.
Me and, you know, I remember

1169
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,040
when, you know, carrying them
with the Baylor, they were

1170
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,720
coming off that horrible season
and then all of them ran it

1171
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,840
back.
It was the same thing like all

1172
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:10,880
them.
Dudes, came Petri.

1173
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,040
And all them dudes came back.
And then they ended up winning

1174
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,800
the Sugar Bowl and Oklahoma
State in the Big 12.

1175
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,920
But it's kind of this kind of
reminds a lot of older guys

1176
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,280
coming back.
They they kind of all join

1177
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:23,720
forces and like it's.
Still.

1178
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,200
Special again, you got older.
Guys going back with a really

1179
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,560
solid youth.
I think.

1180
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,040
That's the big thing and I'm
actually, well, we'll kick it

1181
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,480
over to Dan here a little bit
because Dan hadn't hadn't got a

1182
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,160
chance to jump in here.
I I want Dan to talk a little

1183
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,680
bit of like Dan's talked to a
lot of the coaches.

1184
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,280
He talked to a lot of the
players.

1185
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,840
So Dan, tell me a little bit
about some of those

1186
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,480
conversations that you've had
with some of those coaches over

1187
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,080
the over the time and how that
kind of relates to what what

1188
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,360
we're talking about here with
kind of the the team kind of

1189
00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:00,400
taking that next step once Kyron
drones took over quarterback?

1190
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,080
Well I remember spring game
panel pre spring game panel.

1191
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,600
Pete asked.
Who's going to be QB?

1192
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,720
One?
And I said Ali Jennings didn't

1193
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,280
come to Virginia Tech to catch
passes from Grant Wells.

1194
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:16,800
He did.
Say that.

1195
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,200
I said I remember how I was
there.

1196
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,960
I was next.
To it and.

1197
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,640
People label me as like.
Grant Wells fanboy #1.

1198
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,040
Just cuz I never shit on the
kid.

1199
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,960
That's not really what I do.
Like, if you're play bad, I'll

1200
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,120
say it, but I'm never going to
like be like, oh, this kid

1201
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:32,560
fucking sucks.
Like, you know.

1202
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:38,520
But after I saw that one series
from Kyron in the Purdue game, I

1203
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:44,000
tweeted we can't ever go back.
He's the one and he's been the

1204
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:48,840
one the whole time.
And I think like everybody was

1205
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,280
like, Tebow sucks.
We got to get rid of Tebow.

1206
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,960
He's not the answer to this
offense is crap.

1207
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:59,160
But then like come the Purdue
game, or not Purdue but the

1208
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,640
Pittsburgh game.
We saw like the shit open up and

1209
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,200
like we started seeing all this
stuff.

1210
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,360
And Kyron, he doesn't get shook
ever.

1211
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,720
Like he's just the same dude.
And I feel like the whole team

1212
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,240
was like our leader.
I feel like Grant got in his

1213
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:19,320
head a lot, whereas Kyron
doesn't, no matter what good or

1214
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,440
bad, like his dad was saying
like he's always been even kill.

1215
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,440
But it was kind of crazy.
Like everybody took on this

1216
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,480
mentality.
Like, yo, like, this dude

1217
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,240
believes nonstop, 100% no matter
what.

1218
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,320
We believe nonstop no matter
what.

1219
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,680
And it showed because we took on
the identity of we're going to

1220
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,640
beat your ass for four quarters.
Like, regardless of, you know,

1221
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,720
we lost a couple.
But at the same time, it was

1222
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,400
like we played physical.
We hadn't seen physical hokey

1223
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,720
ball forever.
And not only do we have the

1224
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,120
skill players to run it up, but
it was just like a dominant

1225
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,560
between Basil Kiren and Malachi.
Like, they were just like

1226
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,640
putting defenses in the dirt.
And eventually we were able to

1227
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:03,520
break a couple, you know, and it
all came to fruition at AUVA

1228
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,760
when we just ran them out of
their own building.

1229
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:11,240
And I had talked to the coaches
before the season and they were

1230
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:13,600
kind of just like we just met.
We need to make a bowl.

1231
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,400
Like, let's just make a bowl and
then recruiting.

1232
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,480
It'll take off.
And when we.

1233
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,760
Were like one and three where I
was leaving the Marshall game.

1234
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,760
I was a little dead inside.
I was like, what the hell is

1235
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,920
going like?
What are we going to do?

1236
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,760
And then it was just like, I
don't know what happened, but it

1237
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,200
just changed.
And we, a light came on and we

1238
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,200
just never looked back.
I mean, we took our lumps

1239
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,080
because at the same time, we're
still trying to rebuild the

1240
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,400
roster, right?
But we beat the shit out of bad

1241
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:40,520
teams.
And that's what you need.

1242
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,120
That's what you're supposed.
That's what good teams do.

1243
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,640
So good teams do.
And.

1244
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,800
So, and now everybody's coming
back, bro.

1245
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,360
Come on, run it.
Run it.

1246
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:53,960
Back 100% and and Dan that game
is we played good enough to win

1247
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,760
that game Mr. Drones.
Kevin you said a little while

1248
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:01,000
ago it was the pit game and and
there's been questions amongst

1249
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,280
his fan base, podcast community,
Twitter community, When are you

1250
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,040
going to know?
Like when are you going to know

1251
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:10,160
or pack?
And it was a part of that pit

1252
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:13,920
game.
It felt it because we we get the

1253
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:19,560
lead and the next thing you know
the sack fumble happens And it

1254
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,560
was like, I know I think Tally I
felt like you and this is 3

1255
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,520
months, this is 6434 months ago
now.

1256
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,320
Tally texted me oh shit, not
again.

1257
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,600
And then the next drive they
went out there and it was just

1258
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:31,920
it was just like this.
They they mentioned the NC State

1259
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,760
game.
We went out there.

1260
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,640
We drove down the field.
It won't a problem but I'm going

1261
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,960
to flip to something real quick
because it felt like the Pit

1262
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,640
game but I want to talk about
2024.

1263
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,240
Let's get Chris back in here for
a little while.

1264
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,920
Chris and and Kevin too, 'cause
obviously your son's obviously

1265
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:52,000
had some interactions and we've
all been watching, but once.

1266
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,520
Keelan.
Committed.

1267
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,160
And he was in the.
Boat.

1268
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,840
And he was like, this is where
I'm going to be.

1269
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,640
Who did he connect with in the
class and who did you get to

1270
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,200
meet, whether it be parents,
players, where it's like that?

1271
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,240
Kids going to be a.
Dog when he gets down to tech.

1272
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:10,720
See what?
Like y'all?

1273
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,320
Like somebody just asked me
today, like, who are you

1274
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,440
affiliated to?
I've been like floating in

1275
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,840
meeting everybody, just real,
real low key.

1276
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,880
Like I met, you know, Kevin's
wife.

1277
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,840
She was like, hey, can I use
that picture for this?

1278
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,640
I'm like, yeah, no problem.
And then I just introduced

1279
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,480
myself.
I like being able to just to

1280
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,920
float in and meet people and
just be a guy.

1281
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:38,920
But for for I guess guess for us
was we we connected with like I

1282
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,280
said I met Chance Wiggins at
Penn State at his at his junior

1283
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,240
day.
Gabe Williams is is really,

1284
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,640
really huge.
By going into these spaces and

1285
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,200
going into the listen to your
podcast, I met y'all.

1286
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:55,320
So I was able to meet you know
Don VI, met Dan by listening to

1287
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:58,120
his podcast.
So it's kind of like meeting the

1288
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,120
the guys and meeting the kids
because to them I'm just a

1289
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,560
parent, but to kind of just
watch them progress and stuff

1290
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,000
because I'm a huge fan of damn
near every kid on here, You

1291
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,240
know, I love Emmett Law's story.
You know, I'm a big fan of.

1292
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,960
I'm a big fan of Quinton Reddish
because he's from Charlotte,

1293
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:17,720
because like I say, Seven O 4
dudes of Bill Devon, he's going

1294
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:19,640
to be a dumb.
He's going to be a dumb.

1295
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,200
Yeah, he's going to be.
Make sure he don't get parted.

1296
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,480
In anybody because he like to
hit somebody.

1297
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:26,920
He going, he going to knock
people out.

1298
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,120
Josh Clark, I met his dad
because he, he coached the TC

1299
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,040
Williams.
So you know I'm a big, you know,

1300
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,360
remember the Titans guy and you
know movie guy.

1301
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,440
So I met his dad, met him.
So I met a lot of these kids,

1302
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,280
you know, the lineman I, you
know, I introduced myself to

1303
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,000
them.
So it's kind of like I've been

1304
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,800
able to meet all of them.
So for them to get these sixteen

1305
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,920
kids, I mean even with.
Kamari Copeland.

1306
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,440
When they got here you know the
other day for for their visit I

1307
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:57,320
made sure I introduced myself to
them and talk to them and you

1308
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:01,680
know so I'm I'm kind of really
into this class but I I always

1309
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,480
give reverence and honor to the
23 class because they got in the

1310
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,760
boat when this was going nowhere
Dude let me let me let me

1311
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,360
explain something y'all man.
When that when we went one and

1312
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:14,800
three.
Y'all y'all reference back to

1313
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,040
the pit game that he changed for
KD1.

1314
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,840
For me, he changed at the
Florida State game I'm watching

1315
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:25,520
at home and I see the look on
his face after losing that game.

1316
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:27,720
Kevin, I know you probably saw
it too.

1317
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,400
He was pissed.
He was mad, 'cause he felt I can

1318
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,840
compete with these guys.
And I said I told my wife right

1319
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:39,400
there, and then I said, oh snap,
that dude, He's the guy.

1320
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,080
I said we will not be the same.
That dude is different.

1321
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,600
Like I saw him.
And like you said Dan, when I

1322
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:48,960
met him the first time he was
out, he just finished throwing

1323
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,400
with Ollie.
You're right.

1324
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:51,960
He never came.
He never came.

1325
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,720
Virginia Tech to play with Grant
Wills.

1326
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:54,960
He came for Kyron.
Drones.

1327
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,200
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, yeah, right.

1328
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,240
Right.
Well, we know we.

1329
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,880
Know we went, we followed Aaron.
Cove.

1330
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:05,880
Absolutely.
The mentality.

1331
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,080
Of the players, matches, the
mentality of the coaches.

1332
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,560
I'm going to share a text right
now and it's not inside

1333
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,640
information at all, so I can
share it.

1334
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:17,120
I texted Cheetah after ODU and I
was like, locked them down on

1335
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:18,840
Saturday.
Relax.

1336
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,240
I was like lock them down on
Saturday, Coach, I was like love

1337
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:24,440
that for Dory and Cheetahs look
good, he said.

1338
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:26,680
They played well, but we still
have work to do.

1339
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,080
I took this job to be elite, not
just OK, we're still a work in

1340
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:33,080
progress.
And I was like, see, that's what

1341
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,080
I'm talking about.
I mean it.

1342
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,200
It's.
Great.

1343
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,000
So everybody's.
Bought in, Everybody's bought

1344
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,240
in.
So it was like so because me and

1345
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,480
coach mines and I hate with
y'all I call.

1346
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,480
I talk to fontel every day.
I mean Fontel's like my like my

1347
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,760
brother no but no no, it I mean
he got a relationship with the

1348
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:56,040
kid but and I got like 5 names
for Keela, like I call them the

1349
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,880
phenom Neo.
I call them all kinds of

1350
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:01,840
different names but me and
Fontel talk every day and I

1351
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,440
ended up really interacting with
the bad boys the whole time.

1352
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:09,440
So when they went one and three
and I, I was hitting those guys

1353
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:10,960
every day, like yo stay in the
process.

1354
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,760
You know, when Ali went down,
you know, I really talked to

1355
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,600
those guys a lot.
But I just watched them change

1356
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,279
after that Florida State game
because they felt like they

1357
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:23,399
could compete with those guys,
but they felt like they can

1358
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:25,399
compete and they were pissed
that they didn't play better.

1359
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,479
The only time I felt like to me
personally, I don't know about

1360
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,439
y'all.
The only time I felt like they

1361
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,760
kind of packed it in and I asked
them personally, Kevin, I I went

1362
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:35,240
and asked.
I said and then did y'all, did

1363
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,640
y'all, did y'all ask, packing in
against Louisville and I was

1364
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,640
talking to one of my favorite
coaches there, Xavier, Debbie.

1365
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:45,640
He said, Man, they saw them get
off the bus and physically they

1366
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,279
didn't think they were ready to
play with them and you could see

1367
01:08:48,279 --> 01:08:51,120
the way that they played.
So this is still a very, very

1368
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,240
young team, but they're A-Team,
they're a young team.

1369
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:57,359
But there are kids that are like
growing into this thing and

1370
01:08:57,399 --> 01:09:01,120
every every phase of this
football team is learning and

1371
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,240
growing together.
So that's why everybody coming

1372
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:08,439
back like you said Kevin is to
the point is buying because they

1373
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:12,359
like a now we got our leader now
we spent time with each other,

1374
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,800
now we believe in each other.
Now let's go take the next step

1375
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:18,680
and take this.
So me personally as a dad and

1376
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:23,600
and and dropping my kid off, you
know as the absolute that's wide

1377
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,800
receiver to come out of Hampton
Roads since Portcy Harbor.

1378
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,200
You know.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

1379
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,279
You know.
I've been, I've been drinking.

1380
01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:33,399
So, you know, you know what I'm
talking We all been drinking.

1381
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:35,000
We all been drinking.
That's the thing.

1382
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:36,920
Let me I'm going to hit that.
Hold on.

1383
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,640
I'm talking that talk.
Now I'm going to hit everybody

1384
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,200
up.
Because I I got a feeling

1385
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,840
Chris's guy in this class is
chance because of it's the wide

1386
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,279
receiver room.
It's you got the Penn State

1387
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:49,640
trips, Let me hit y'all 1 by 1.
This is Kevin.

1388
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,520
You're going to go last because
you're on the team and it's

1389
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,359
tough to follow recruiting and
keep up with you kid.

1390
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:54,840
Brian Favorite player in this
class?

1391
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,640
Man, I'm excited.
To see Tyler Mason, to be

1392
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:04,800
honest, like he has went out
there and torched that crew at

1393
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:09,320
that level in North Carolina,
like video game numbers.

1394
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,920
If we if we can, if that can
translate at all against that

1395
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,920
step up in competition, it's
going to be filthy.

1396
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:18,880
Riley, I'm going to go to you
next because Tyler's in your

1397
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:20,800
neck of the woods.
Tyler and Mr. Dandy a couple

1398
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,640
times and there are.
Some people, they call him Mr.

1399
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:24,840
Dandy because of the things it
does.

1400
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:29,320
That's just get the head
straight, those those.

1401
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:31,000
Two are going to be.
Impressive to watch.

1402
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,800
It ain't no doubt.
But.

1403
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:38,360
These receivers, they.
Got coming in with this 24

1404
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:41,720
class.
I mean, you got a lot of

1405
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,080
receivers coming back.
But you got some.

1406
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:45,920
Kids.
Coming in that are going to push

1407
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:52,800
every aspect of them and I know
coach minds from.

1408
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,800
From his time.
At ECU when I was there in

1409
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:59,400
Greenville, and I mean, he's
going to get the absolute best

1410
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,000
out of everybody.
So I'm really.

1411
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,600
I'm really excited to see some
of those receivers coming in

1412
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,880
there.
And just one thing I.

1413
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,640
Wanted.
To add, Chris, you're talking

1414
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,680
about how you talk to those
guys, receivers, the coaches,

1415
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,160
the things like that, but we're
talking about the state of the

1416
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,160
program.
That tells you right.

1417
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,920
There where the program is now
compared to where it was before,

1418
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:25,120
because as a coach that was
having since recruited to try to

1419
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,800
go to Virginia now and I
couldn't, I couldn't hardly get

1420
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,480
some of them on the phone
occasionally.

1421
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,840
And now they've got kids that
are there that are talking to

1422
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,480
parents of other people.
They can help them and motivate

1423
01:11:37,480 --> 01:11:39,600
things.
That tells you where the program

1424
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,720
is right now, and and and what's
changed and why things are

1425
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,080
improved, that is.
What that pro that?

1426
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:51,280
State of the program is
different now than it was just

1427
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:51,880
three.
Years ago.

1428
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:56,640
Cheers for that, right?
Cheers.

1429
01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:00,920
To wrap PB, you look at this
class 2024 Who's your guy?

1430
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,440
It's hard not to look.
At Gabe Williams because one of

1431
01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:07,840
his just his rating and and his
tape is so impressive.

1432
01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:11,360
But two because of our
linebacker play this past season

1433
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:13,960
and this is not a disrespect to
any of the current guys on the

1434
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:16,440
roster.
There's a lot of athletic

1435
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:20,480
linebackers on this roster that
may not have a full grasp of the

1436
01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:24,040
defense yet.
But someone like Gabe could come

1437
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:28,880
in and be a game changer and he,
with the way he's seem to be

1438
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,680
loving all Virginia Tech and and
recruiting other guys to come to

1439
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,240
Virginia Tech, I'm rooting for
the kid, I really AM.

1440
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:38,640
And so it's an easy answer
because he's the top recruit in

1441
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:42,200
the class, but I think it's a
very important position going

1442
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:43,640
forward.
Not that any of the other ones

1443
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:49,240
aren't, but I did want to.
But we we kind of been loving

1444
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,520
all both of the the kids of
these two men that are on the

1445
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,440
show.
And I asked kDa tough question.

1446
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,760
I kind of have a tough question
for for Chris before we get to

1447
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,520
Dan's maybe favorite player in
the class.

1448
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,040
It's just that we see the four
guys coming back in the wide

1449
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,200
receiver room, the bad boys,
they're all back.

1450
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,480
That's exciting.
Some of them know their targets

1451
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:11,560
are going down for next year
because it's simply not enough

1452
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,800
footballs to go around.
Keelan coming in now he's the

1453
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,640
new guy and he he he might have
more talent than all of them,

1454
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,280
but he's still the new guy and
he's the young guy.

1455
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,360
That is he.
Going to be OK with that kind of

1456
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:31,400
competition and coming in and
and maybe not getting on the

1457
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,800
field as much as he would at
some other schools.

1458
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,880
Hey man, I'll tell you all this
so y'all can totally understand

1459
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,960
it.
I I I.

1460
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,120
Am so excited that all four of
those guys are coming back

1461
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,160
because you got to understand, I
know what his ultimate goal is

1462
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:58,040
and so it's different between
being a high school kid and

1463
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:02,640
being a college athlete because
you go from being and coach.

1464
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,520
You know what?
Both coaches y'all know this.

1465
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:08,720
You go from 100% of the people
playing to 7% of the people that

1466
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,720
you know playing.
These are you go from being my

1467
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,160
best friend Rod Clay said to me
this years ago.

1468
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,960
You go from being the man to
being one of the men.

1469
01:14:18,440 --> 01:14:23,520
And so you get to get 15 years
of college experience inside of

1470
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:29,080
that room from Ollie Jennings to
get Daquan Felton, Jalen Lane

1471
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,960
and Steven Gosnell, All four of
those guys going through that

1472
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:36,760
first six months of being away
from home on the college campus,

1473
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:40,400
going through all that, as well
as the practices and everything

1474
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,880
else to come along with it, he
going to need that.

1475
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,920
So for me, I'm going to be
totally honest with you.

1476
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,200
I told him point, we talked
about it one day and I was like,

1477
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:51,760
hey, how do you feel about it?
He said my chance is going to

1478
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,800
come.
He said, I love the fact that

1479
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,200
they're coming back.
I love the fact that I get to

1480
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:59,720
sit in that room and I get to
learn how to be a college

1481
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,000
athlete.
So I said what do we do?

1482
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,240
He said we we were special on
special teams.

1483
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,200
We make sure every Rep we Rep
like it's a game time Rep and

1484
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,400
then we we get our
opportunities.

1485
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,640
We get opportunities.
And I'm set, man, I'm, I'm

1486
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,040
totally set.
So if he comes on the scene this

1487
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,720
year and he gets the kind of
time on the field that Aiden

1488
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,080
Green got, but he's able to play
in the X and he's playing,

1489
01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:26,440
playing at the X outside and
playing inside of the slot, then

1490
01:15:26,440 --> 01:15:27,840
I know he's going to get his
touches.

1491
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,560
Because I know he going to get
on somebody's child who's, you

1492
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,480
know, who's really not a
football player.

1493
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,160
He's really an accountant, but
he's on a football scholarship,

1494
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:37,120
going pro and something.
Other than sports.

1495
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,120
So I know he's going to get
that.

1496
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,080
Then he's got a Heisman
candidate quarterback for a

1497
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,600
while.
You.

1498
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,560
Know and then he gets the point
that he's going to get the

1499
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:52,960
opportunity to work inside of
that.

1500
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,640
So I'm I'm totally excited man.
I I you know I saw somebody say

1501
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,880
on Twitter earlier today and we
drinking you know about who UVA

1502
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:06,080
got and I was like I saw that
kid when he was in high school

1503
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,160
but I knew he played at private
school so I know what private

1504
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:12,200
school and and and if I know
what rich he he played in

1505
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:15,920
Richmond so you got Hermitage
you got Highland Springs you got

1506
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,960
all those other schools you
could have went to.

1507
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:19,920
Yeah but he went and played.
With the.

1508
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:21,920
Yeah, he went and played in a
private school.

1509
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,160
So I said OK, he ain't played
against nobody.

1510
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,280
And then he goes down to North
Carolina and he don't get on the

1511
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:28,920
field.
Nope, there's something.

1512
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,680
Wrong with.
That so I so you know that but

1513
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:34,520
that's neither here nor there
but going back to what you said

1514
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:38,720
I think it's the best thing for
him as well as chance and I also

1515
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,800
think what ends up happening
those guys that are there they

1516
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,960
got to get they it he what mines
is done is pushed to any of

1517
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,360
them.
You gotta, you gotta reach to

1518
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,880
the level, he said.
He always says that the standard

1519
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,240
has been raised.
The stand the.

1520
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:57,000
The, you know, Navy guy, the
tide raises all bones.

1521
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:58,000
There you go, baby.
So the.

1522
01:16:58,640 --> 01:16:59,080
There you.
Go.

1523
01:16:59,240 --> 01:17:03,000
So yeah, Tide has been raised.
Quan Felton is going to raise

1524
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,200
the tide because he's a he's a
can't go back All Star.

1525
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,040
He can't come back to church on
the Portsmouth and do nothing

1526
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:11,280
because he don't want to go work
in the shipyard, right.

1527
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,120
He ain't trying.
He ain't trying to do none of

1528
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,560
that.
He trying to go pro.

1529
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:17,880
So Ali Jennings noticed his last
chance for him to get seen and

1530
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,400
get good tape.
So the the tide is raised.

1531
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,760
Stephen Gosnell knew, knows who
he is.

1532
01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:26,320
Jay Lane could have went went to
the pros this year he came back.

1533
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:30,360
So my kids used to get a
master's class in how to be a

1534
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:35,160
college athlete, and I was
hoping you.

1535
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:39,360
Would answer that question
exactly like that And so I'm so

1536
01:17:40,040 --> 01:17:43,480
I'm so happy because that's
basically what I was thinking is

1537
01:17:43,480 --> 01:17:48,000
that the veteran leadership and
to learn from Steven Gosnell his

1538
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,920
story from this past offseason
and fontel minds saying is the

1539
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:54,520
best offseason he's seen out of
any athlete like that is a great

1540
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:58,320
kid to be in the room with your
son and and learn from.

1541
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,280
Yeah, my, my, my.
Going into the season, the guy

1542
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,360
who I was loving all morning, I
told mines.

1543
01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:05,840
I said man, I love Tucker
Holloway.

1544
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:08,480
I love Tucker Holloway.
To to life, man.

1545
01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:11,280
If you watch Tucker Holloway
practice, man, he he's a go

1546
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,120
getter, man.
He he's gonna go get it and do

1547
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,240
what he has to do.
But you know, but Tuck.

1548
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,360
Yeah, yeah, I mean y'all we
looking as a punt return guy,

1549
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,000
but Tucker Holloway works as
hard as anybody else out there.

1550
01:18:21,480 --> 01:18:22,720
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

1551
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,360
Yeah.
All right, let me pitch you.

1552
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:26,360
Down.
I'm gonna go down.

1553
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,840
Let's talk Dan.
Dan now don't suck up, Dan.

1554
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,320
Who's your favorite player?
This year in this class.

1555
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:36,960
Well, if you.
Would have asked.

1556
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,960
Me four days ago I would have
been like Keeling or Chance,

1557
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,080
because those are the two I'm
closest with as far as the

1558
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,640
recruits go.
But any man, or any kid that

1559
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:52,600
will take a train five hours.
Why'd you take my duel, man?

1560
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,800
Why do you take my guy, man?
If you take a train.

1561
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,800
If you take a.
Train 5 hours to go to school to

1562
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,480
make the best possible future
for yourself.

1563
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,240
You were built different.
And Emmett Laws.

1564
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,920
He's not the tallest dude people
knock his height but that dude

1565
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:12,800
like dog.
Give me Emmett Laws.

1566
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,200
I'm excited about that kid Such.
A such a.

1567
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:20,360
Position of need to like the
combination of those two

1568
01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:21,960
factors.
I think is going to be really

1569
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,720
big for him because that's a
position where we need some

1570
01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:29,320
depth and he seems really hungry
and he's been a player.

1571
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,720
So I think I think he's going to
have a big opportunity.

1572
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,080
Chris, I'm going to go back to
you real quick, man.

1573
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:38,880
And I mentioned chance, but I'm,
I want you to look at just the

1574
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,760
just the overall structure of
this class.

1575
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,440
And as you look at all these
gentlemen coming in and

1576
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:49,800
obviously you intermingled with,
you know, the parents, the kids,

1577
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:52,840
the families, was there anyone
else that stood out to you?

1578
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:55,080
Obviously, you know, I know
Chance stood out to you a lot.

1579
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,520
Was there anybody else that
stood out to you when you when

1580
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,680
they committed or when you met
them like and that is a that's a

1581
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:03,000
good kid.
That kid looks physically built.

1582
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,600
Anybody.
Kamari Copeland.

1583
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,720
OK, Kamari.
Kamari Copeland.

1584
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:16,600
Kamari Copeland's path to
getting here, of wanting to play

1585
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:21,720
ball at this level and doing the
role that he did to get there.

1586
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:27,600
You know, he he's my guy.
I root for him more.

1587
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,000
I root for him like crazy
because he knew what he wanted

1588
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,520
to be able to do.
The look on his face, man.

1589
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:37,640
When he got on campus, when I
saw him Saturday, it was like he

1590
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,240
was in absolute heaven.
He didn't want to go anywhere

1591
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:45,080
else, you know, He knew this is
where he wanted to get to.

1592
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:48,960
So Kamari Copeland, man, is the
kid.

1593
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,480
Like, I love them all.
I'm being honest with you.

1594
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,280
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Every last one of them, from Mr.

1595
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,280
Dancy to to Tyler Mason.
I mean, I love them all.

1596
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,080
I know all of them.
My wife's like, who that?

1597
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:01,200
Oh, that's Aiden Lynch.
Yeah.

1598
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,840
You know, Yeah, you know, I know
him.

1599
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,960
That's the. 672. 90 kid from
Jersey, Honey.

1600
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,280
Yeah, Jersey.
The the couple of kids that, you

1601
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,120
know, the guys from Ohio, she's
like, oh they're from Ohio, but,

1602
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:16,600
but Kamari Copeland is my guy.
To come from where he came from,

1603
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:18,960
to go through what he went
through and for him to get a

1604
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:23,520
chance to fulfill his dream, you
know, to a man, you know, and I

1605
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,040
mean I have I wasn't as blessed
as much talent as maybe some of

1606
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,160
you other guys.
But to a man, that's my guy.

1607
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,240
I I root for Kumari Copeland
like crazy, Kevin.

1608
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,200
What about you, man?
Did you get a chance to interact

1609
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:37,040
with any of these guys or did
you know, obviously?

1610
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,960
The quarterback room.
Did did did you get to?

1611
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,840
Did Kev?
Did Kyra have any interactions

1612
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,200
with Davi this year or yeah,
through?

1613
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,600
Kern.
You know he, You know he was.

1614
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,000
He.
Was big on meeting Montavius.

1615
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:56,840
He was actually we we FaceTime.
When he was when Peoples was

1616
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:01,000
there with an APR, he was
actually an APRAPR.

1617
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,400
Lives right under underneath
him.

1618
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,040
In the apartment.
Downstairs.

1619
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:07,960
But he he was in AP Rs talking
to peoples about trying to get

1620
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,760
him to come.
And so I kind.

1621
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:13,480
Of.
Knew the back story and you know

1622
01:22:13,480 --> 01:22:17,840
the Sam Brumfield and you know
those are the, you know,

1623
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:21,680
honestly I I was big in the
portal because I wanted to reach

1624
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,080
out and help.
You know, like I told you know,

1625
01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:26,680
Tebow was like do you mind
reaching out to parents once we

1626
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,000
zero in on people you know and
tell them about your stuff.

1627
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,760
I was like I had no problems
just send them my way.

1628
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,760
So I was big in the portal.
Not so much the high school.

1629
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,240
Now, Chris, of course I know
that.

1630
01:22:37,480 --> 01:22:40,200
Oh man.
I'm the absolute work.

1631
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:54,840
I will drive your kid all way.
To black.

1632
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,080
I'd ask Chris.
Just tell.

1633
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,400
Just tell me what?
The refillable gas card number

1634
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,840
is and we'll we'll get you set
up kind of Go ahead.

1635
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,880
No, I was just saying.
I was pumped with the the portal

1636
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,200
pickups we got.
I thought, you know, we we

1637
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:13,520
addressed the needs that we
needed.

1638
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,800
You know, Sam Brumfield's is
with that experience and and

1639
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,080
what he brings and he goes
anywhere.

1640
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,240
Like, you know, the last Middle
Tennessee State guy we got, it's

1641
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,840
going to be great.
And you know, Peebles is huge

1642
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,920
with that experience and you put
him on the line with APR and and

1643
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,320
the way Colt Nelson played a
game.

1644
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,240
Just like the cold.
Coldplay, Colt Nelson played at

1645
01:23:36,240 --> 01:23:37,680
the end of those last couple of
games.

1646
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:39,440
You know, I'm a defensive Burgos
game.

1647
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:41,640
Burgos games.
Burgos.

1648
01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:43,120
Stepped up corners coming.
Back.

1649
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,560
And you know I hate canteen
left.

1650
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,160
I'm still holding out hope.
Privately, I'm still holding out

1651
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:53,120
hope that you know.
And he come back.

1652
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,560
Run it back.
Let's Let's get everybody but

1653
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,760
Peebles and Sam.
Brumfield and hey, don't don't

1654
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:00,560
do that.
Don't do that.

1655
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:03,360
Don't say get everybody, but I
know you know who I'm talking

1656
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:04,520
about.
You know we talking.

1657
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:06,600
About you You watch this show
Enough.

1658
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:08,200
You know what I'm talking about,
You know?

1659
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:09,040
Yeah, I know.
I.

1660
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:10,440
Know hey.
I'm going to talk to.

1661
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:13,080
My boss man because Jeremy pays
some of our bills Over here,

1662
01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:17,800
Jeremy recruiting class portal
Who are you excited to see?

1663
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:20,000
You drained, Elizabeth.
Excited to see.

1664
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,000
I'm excited that.
We're actually bringing some

1665
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,200
offensive lineman in.
I hate.

1666
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:31,280
This shit talker offensive line.
I hate to do it.

1667
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:35,360
Because I appreciate everything
the offensive line does all the

1668
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:39,640
time, but we are a few years
removed from the vice squad that

1669
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,520
was so good and does not get
enough appreciation.

1670
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,160
In a lot of ways, I'm.
Glad we're.

1671
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,400
Bringing in some offensive
lineman, because that's what we

1672
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:50,400
need.
We have to win the battle with

1673
01:24:50,480 --> 01:24:54,840
trenches because we have the
skill positions already.

1674
01:24:55,200 --> 01:24:57,520
We've got them, yeah.
You're right.

1675
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,240
Win the battle with the.
Trenches.

1676
01:24:59,240 --> 01:25:01,480
And guess what?
We've got a championship.

1677
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:03,800
And Kyron runs.
Enough.

1678
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,800
We don't need them getting hit
in the backfield too, you know

1679
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,000
what I'm saying?
So let's let's protect our we

1680
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,960
bring these kids on and.
We actually have them go.

1681
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,440
We've got the skill positions,
we got the playmakers.

1682
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:17,080
We can actually do this.
We can have an actual playoff

1683
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:20,880
run if we do it right.
And I'm glad we're filling those

1684
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,920
positions because guess what?
We're spending the money to do

1685
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,880
it.
We're going to do it right.

1686
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,800
Next year is a very big year for
us.

1687
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:38,920
We have to do.
We are 90 minutes.

1688
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:43,280
In this is normally the the the
part of no return Here we got.

1689
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,000
To fire everything off, right?
Here.

1690
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:49,840
So.
Drinks.

1691
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:52,560
He's a lot.
More.

1692
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,680
Hold on the first thing.
Jeremy said immediately.

1693
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,720
This hold on, Robbie.
The first thing Jeremy was

1694
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,920
talking about is we are on the
trajectory back to where we

1695
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,920
were.
That means Jeremy.

1696
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:07,000
Doesn't have to drink as much as
we used to because it used to be

1697
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,960
a lot of drinking because it was
like, yeah, our asses has

1698
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:12,760
followed this team for 20 years.
Like, what the fuck is this?

1699
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,680
Hey, Curtis, remember the first
state of the program where it

1700
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,080
was just me, you and Jeremy?
Oh God, no.

1701
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:22,840
After Fuente was supposed to be.
Fired, but wasn't 2020.

1702
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,080
Oh my God.
It.

1703
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:28,400
Was bad as last year.
Tally I was so.

1704
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:31,880
Mad mad you.
Were drunk all Jameson.

1705
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:34,040
Because that was like.
COVID year.

1706
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,080
Yeah, it was.
And also I'm.

1707
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,360
In healthcare, I was dealing
with fucking COVID year and then

1708
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:42,200
COVID year and then it.
Was us.

1709
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,240
Hiring.
It's.

1710
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,560
Us three, we all got no.
We had a press conference to say

1711
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:49,680
we were keeping him on the day
the buyout dropped.

1712
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,200
That's what that's actually what
we did first, first.

1713
01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:54,000
Retainment.
Cop.

1714
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:55,200
Press conference.
Ever.

1715
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:56,560
Oh God.
So.

1716
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,360
By the way, I still to this day,
if you look at Whip Babcock's

1717
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,880
face, Whip Babcock was ready to
fire.

1718
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:04,880
He looks like he had a gun to
his head, man.

1719
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,240
Somebody had a gun to his head
to go out to that press

1720
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:09,440
conference.
His body I'm gonna chase.

1721
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,280
Him real quick.
Hold on y'all look the fuck

1722
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,160
down.
God damn like being a Sergeant

1723
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,160
on in a God damn 30 run Tally.
Tally.

1724
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:18,960
Kurt, I'm gonna come after you,
man.

1725
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:20,040
Tally.
Hey.

1726
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,000
Recruiting class.
Portal class Who's your

1727
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,120
favorite?
Oh, oh wait, Kevin mixing.

1728
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:27,200
It up there, baby.
Shake it up.

1729
01:27:29,480 --> 01:27:31,080
Did we already did?
Pete already give him.

1730
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:31,760
I never said Gabe.
I said.

1731
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,600
Gabe, you were.
You were me.

1732
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:36,320
And you were left, yeah.
You didn't say Gabe.

1733
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:39,200
Yeah, I forgot about.
That so?

1734
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,960
I don't know, man.
I guess it's so much good stuff

1735
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:44,880
that goes into this recruiting
class.

1736
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,800
The people that we got coming
in, like, I like a lot a guy

1737
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:52,400
like Chaz Wiggins, because he
reminds me that body size

1738
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,880
reminds me kind of what Quan
gives us.

1739
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:58,640
We didn't have a lot of big body
receivers for a long time.

1740
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:02,680
So to see us get a receiver or
see us get somebody that's going

1741
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,800
to feel the place of somebody
who's leaving, that's good.

1742
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,000
But if I had to just pick one
person out of this class, I

1743
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:13,880
guess I would probably go with
Gerald Johnson, just the the

1744
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,240
defensive lineman.
I mean, if you watch his, if you

1745
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:22,360
watch his tape, man, like he's
nasty, He's nasty and like.

1746
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:24,040
When you look at somebody.
Like APR?

1747
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,440
Yeah.
When you look at somebody like

1748
01:28:25,440 --> 01:28:29,760
APR, we watched him come out of
high school and we always miss

1749
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,680
on those type kids.
You know like you see somebody

1750
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,080
that has that potential and we
miss on them and they go to

1751
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:39,200
Florida or they go to we see
them pop up at Wake Forest or we

1752
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,920
see them pop up at Pitt.
We don't get those type kids

1753
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,120
where you know I know I think it
was between US and UVA for him

1754
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,560
and he and he and UVA has got
some nice lineman in the last

1755
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:52,200
couple of years that I think you
know turned out to be decent

1756
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:57,680
defensive lineman.
So to see him choose the Hokies

1757
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,440
and and stick with it, like I'm
excited for him to put some more

1758
01:29:00,440 --> 01:29:02,680
weight on.
I'm excited for him to get in

1759
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,920
there and mix it up, number 75.
Seven, all of these kids.

1760
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,240
Man, I was about to say.
That beach, I was about to say

1761
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,320
that the.
Two top recruits.

1762
01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:15,680
In this class are in the. 757 we
have not said.

1763
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,360
That in a long and Kamari's
number we.

1764
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:21,040
Are he's 7572?
Yeah.

1765
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:22,000
He's sure, yeah.
He's like come.

1766
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,720
On in high school.
Yeah, I'm glad, Kamari.

1767
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,120
Came too, because we how many
times we heard that Virginia

1768
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,600
Tech was my dream school.
And then we were like, oh shit.

1769
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:30,400
And that's what.
Everything said and.

1770
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:32,360
I.
Mean I I always said the same

1771
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:34,720
damn thing.
I mean, I always back in the

1772
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,160
fold now, but I always said the
same damn thing at the gate.

1773
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:40,960
This is what I'll.
Say though, no, you good.

1774
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,040
This is what I'll say.
Like, because I've said that

1775
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:47,360
we've had Matteo on our show a
couple of times and I always say

1776
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:48,320
the same thing.
And him.

1777
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,840
I always fuck with him.
Like those ratings, number one,

1778
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:53,520
don't mean shit once they get on
campus.

1779
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:56,040
You know what I'm saying?
The ratings don't mean shit.

1780
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:57,720
Once they.
Get on campus.

1781
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:02,320
You know what I'm saying?
So offers tape different things

1782
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:05,920
that they do in high school is
what somebody like probably this

1783
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,600
panel looks at.
You know, you look at a kid like

1784
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:12,560
Keaton Adams, if he would have
chose Ohio State or Alabama,

1785
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:16,840
there's no way his rating.
There's no way his.

1786
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,960
Rating is where it's at, so you
know what I'm saying.

1787
01:30:19,920 --> 01:30:22,360
I used to take I.
Used to pay so much attention to

1788
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:25,880
like the stars or where our
class is and things like that.

1789
01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:29,160
But once you start looking at
these kids, body of work, when

1790
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:33,080
you start like, again, I'm not
just trying to beat the drum

1791
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:34,840
that we're right.
But we was fucking right.

1792
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:37,920
Go back and look at Kyra drones
in high school.

1793
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:41,800
Go back and look at him in high
school and he played in Texas

1794
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,960
against some of the best high
school kids that are.

1795
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:47,600
And you going to tell me that
this kid didn't have something

1796
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:48,960
special?
I don't care.

1797
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:50,480
I don't know what his rating
was.

1798
01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:51,640
I don't care what his rating
was.

1799
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,160
I'm just telling you when you
start evaluating these kids or

1800
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,560
looking at these kids as a fan,
you have to look at the body of

1801
01:30:58,560 --> 01:30:59,880
work.
You go look at what Chaz

1802
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:02,240
Wiggins.
Chaz Wiggins is a monster.

1803
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,760
If you go look at what he's
doing at the wide receiver

1804
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,240
position he is doing some shit
that other wide receivers can't

1805
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:14,080
do because he's 63 and and and
and damn near 210 lbs like he's

1806
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,800
a big body receiver.
So the the rating system fucks

1807
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:20,880
me up a lot of times and I, you
know, I know the only reason I

1808
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,520
brought that up because we say
the highest rated player we got

1809
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,600
or this is the IT don't even
matter because all of them

1810
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,800
should have been higher than
they were because they started

1811
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,480
there.
And then when they commit to a

1812
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:33,000
certain school, because they
don't have enough fans, they

1813
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,080
fucking drop the rating.
So guess what?

1814
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:36,360
247.
Fuck.

1815
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:40,560
Y'all Jeremy, Jeremy, Jeremy,
Jeremy, you know.

1816
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,280
What Karen reminds me of.
He reminds me of what we wanted

1817
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:47,240
Demetrius Davis to be, and we
ended up.

1818
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:48,920
Being way.
Better.

1819
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,480
Well, he's way bigger.
Yeah, way bigger.

1820
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,440
But.
He ain't just.

1821
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,240
Like Demetrius, Davis was like
5-10.

1822
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:03,440
He was like.
He was like the kid back to the

1823
01:32:03,440 --> 01:32:05,040
day whenever he did.
Can be like.

1824
01:32:05,480 --> 01:32:07,240
I would say this, yeah.
You talking about I?

1825
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:08,400
Wish I loved.
It's.

1826
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,560
Just like, so much better than
we even hoped.

1827
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:14,120
So I'll say.
This.

1828
01:32:14,120 --> 01:32:17,440
I hope somebody loves everyone
on this panel the way Brad

1829
01:32:17,440 --> 01:32:20,840
Cronnelson loved the 510
quarterback because.

1830
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,680
He loved the five. 10
quarterback with a limited arm

1831
01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:26,760
talent, man.
So I want to I want to make a

1832
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:29,760
point because Tyler was bringing
it up and we I'm going to man,

1833
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,400
y'all know, y'all Kevin, Chris,
this is what I got to do.

1834
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,880
I deal with all these guys,
bring them to fuck in and we

1835
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:36,480
will talk about.
Something this is.

1836
01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:40,160
Why Curtis is here, man and.
Tonight I'm on Bourbons.

1837
01:32:40,440 --> 01:32:41,840
So.
Here's the deal, right?

1838
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,560
Let's talk about it because
we're going to talk about this.

1839
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,640
Let's talk about the star
system, because I don't like

1840
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:49,280
that shit.
Because hey, go look at Kyron.

1841
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:54,480
When he came over, Kyron was a
four-star quarterback.

1842
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,520
Kyron produced in Hyrum on a.
State Title.

1843
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:00,880
He wasn't long at.
He was not that long at Baylor.

1844
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,000
It's not like he was there for
three years and rode the bench,

1845
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:04,800
rode the bench, rode the bench
he went to.

1846
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:08,080
He had a game in West Virginia
where he played good cold.

1847
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,600
I think what irritated.
A lot of us this year, Chris,

1848
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:16,080
your son unfortunately took the
unfortunately took the brunt of

1849
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:17,200
it.
So did Gabe Williams.

1850
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:21,600
For a while there, these guys
were elite players, top 300

1851
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,240
guys.
They committed to Tech in just a

1852
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:26,680
few days later.
Tally's texting me.

1853
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:31,960
Fucking shit, Brody.
Just went down like from a 92 to

1854
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,120
an 80. 9.
Gabe went down from a fucking 93

1855
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,640
to a This is the shit that we
all need to talk about.

1856
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:39,960
And I'm going to pitch it.
I'm going to.

1857
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:41,880
I want to start with my two
coaches.

1858
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,960
Kevin.
Robbie because y'all have to

1859
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,000
deal with it.
Kevin.

1860
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,400
Robbie.
Kevin, your son did it.

1861
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:54,160
Robbie, you've had two kids who
have went to the highest level

1862
01:33:54,160 --> 01:33:56,480
of football.
Then they went to the NFL.

1863
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:58,720
And if they go to the wrong
place.

1864
01:34:00,240 --> 01:34:02,000
Oh, son, you're going.
To get you going, you won't get

1865
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,520
dropped.
Are there anything they're?

1866
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,600
Doing other than what we think
of of is you didn't commute to

1867
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,160
Georgia or Alabama or Texas, so
we going to drop your ass?

1868
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:15,040
Yeah, that's.
That's.

1869
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:20,200
Exactly what it is like.
End of the.

1870
01:34:20,440 --> 01:34:23,000
Day go you.
Go to the.

1871
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:26,760
Place that's going to prepare
you the best to do what your

1872
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,200
ultimate goal is it.
Doesn't matter.

1873
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:32,240
Where the school is or what you
know, it doesn't have to be the

1874
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,480
top school.
Nobody says you have to go to

1875
01:34:34,480 --> 01:34:39,000
Alabama to to be in the NFL.
You don't have to go to Georgia

1876
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,640
to be in the NFL.
At some point you just got to

1877
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,560
get on the field, but you got to
be ready to to produce once you

1878
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,760
get on the field it.
Doesn't matter where that.

1879
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:47,920
Is.
You just want an.

1880
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,000
Opportunity.
And you?

1881
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:54,160
Know kind of like you know like
my thing was when when both boys

1882
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:58,440
got in there, you know Jeremiah
was looking to increase the

1883
01:34:58,440 --> 01:35:03,160
level of competition from UTEP
to prepare himself for the NFL.

1884
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:06,040
He was further along in his
career than Kyron was.

1885
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:07,920
Kyron was just looking for an
opportunity to get on the field

1886
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:11,720
and prove that he could play.
You know they were in they had

1887
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,120
different passions going into
the portal and they were looking

1888
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,200
for different things.
You know Kyron just happened to

1889
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,480
find a a home and and.
A.

1890
01:35:20,480 --> 01:35:23,960
And A and a great coaching staff
and fan base that was best for

1891
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,400
him.
Jeremiah found the whole line

1892
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,760
coach that was best for him.
You know his thing.

1893
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,000
He had never played for a black
hole line coach, OK?

1894
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:33,040
You.
Know so.

1895
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:34,920
It was.
And it ain't many of them at

1896
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:36,840
that level that's crazy.
He had never.

1897
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,560
So.
You know, and that's why he went

1898
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,400
there like he he could have went
other places he went, he went to

1899
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,400
Ohio State and Miami and Oregon,
all that stuff.

1900
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:53,800
But he chose the coach, not the
the program.

1901
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:55,640
You know what?
I'm saying and it.

1902
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:56,880
Just so happened it was.
Crazy.

1903
01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:01,240
They both ended up in the ACC
because we didn't think that

1904
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:03,960
like you know when they both in
the border, we're thinking it's

1905
01:36:04,440 --> 01:36:07,160
going to be somewhere around
here, UA to Oklahoma State

1906
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:10,360
somewhere like that.
And then we get a random call

1907
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,440
from Virginia Tech and it was
like and I grew up watching

1908
01:36:13,440 --> 01:36:15,400
Virginia Tech.
You know, I was watching the

1909
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:22,080
night the the lightning hit
course of the Star 2. 1000.

1910
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,760
I don't know what.
A humpty is but God is one of

1911
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:24,960
them.
When we were in.

1912
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:25,880
That indoor.
Facility.

1913
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,400
When it stormed, that's all I
was thinking about.

1914
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,240
I was like, damn, it's happening
again.

1915
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:32,960
Hey Sigler, we.
Didn't we didn't walk enough

1916
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,120
around in the indoor facility to
find Kevin that night?

1917
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,480
No, we didn't.
We found Kenny indoor likes that

1918
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:38,480
night.
We didn't find Kevin.

1919
01:36:38,480 --> 01:36:40,520
We did find Kenny, man.
We we we found Kevin.

1920
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,320
I interviewed Brian.
Steinspring and he was talking

1921
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:47,280
about that night or whatever and
he said that Mike Vick was

1922
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,320
internal.
Mike Vick was in the tunnel.

1923
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:52,920
He's getting hyped and and
Steinie was like, hey man, like

1924
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,520
it's going to be a massive delay
like there's lightning out

1925
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:56,360
there.
Like you got to chill.

1926
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,240
And he was like, don't matter,
can't it can't, it can't hit me

1927
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:03,960
like.
He's like the lightning angle,

1928
01:37:03,960 --> 01:37:05,080
he said.
Lightning angle hit me.

1929
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:06,160
Can't catch me, baby.
When?

1930
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,360
When it comes to those.
Ratings and stuff man.

1931
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,640
I I've been through it with with
kids and and they.

1932
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,560
Focus.
I've had some of them focus so

1933
01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:19,920
much on it, you know.
We've tried to tell them.

1934
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:23,600
That.
The best thing I can think of to

1935
01:37:23,600 --> 01:37:25,720
look at it is like when you're
taking.

1936
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:27,680
AP.
Classes compared to regular

1937
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:29,920
classes.
It's weighted.

1938
01:37:30,680 --> 01:37:31,720
So when?
Certain people.

1939
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,000
Make you certain offers and you
go to.

1940
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:35,760
Certain.
Places the.

1941
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:38,600
Weight of.
That offer carries more in that

1942
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:42,520
rating then.
Unfortunately.

1943
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,320
Then what they put on the field
and show?

1944
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,600
And I I don't.
Like that part of it, the whole

1945
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,600
thing with the stars and things
like that.

1946
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:51,680
Look at what the kids doing on
the field.

1947
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:54,520
Look at how the kids practicing.
Look at how the kids for you

1948
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,840
that's going to tell you the
story of what you're going to

1949
01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:01,520
get when he gets on the field.
Not that number that I mean I

1950
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:02,400
I've.
Seen kids?

1951
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:04,960
I had, you know, I coached kids
a day.

1952
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:06,920
They were, too.
Small.

1953
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:07,920
They were.
Not.

1954
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,480
Fast enough, they were.
Ratings weren't high.

1955
01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:12,760
Enough to go to these schools
that they.

1956
01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,440
Wanted to go to or.
They thought they could go to.

1957
01:38:15,800 --> 01:38:18,520
Two of them right now in the.
NFL Both of them have played in.

1958
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,960
Super Bowls.
So tell me that that kid didn't

1959
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:23,400
measure up to.
What you thought?

1960
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,880
Because of some number on that.
No.

1961
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,600
I I don't.
I mean that That's 20 years of

1962
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:29,840
high school experience and see
if.

1963
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:31,720
They.
Some of them get those numbers

1964
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:33,760
and it never pans out.
I had one that.

1965
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:35,080
Went to Virginia.
Tech years ago.

1966
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,760
Numbers through the roof.
He couldn't.

1967
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:42,160
Listen to what?
Anybody would tell it coach,

1968
01:38:42,280 --> 01:38:45,280
Coach Foster, that's why.
I've.

1969
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:46,760
Ever brought?
In.

1970
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:48,080
So tempted to work.
With.

1971
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:50,520
He goes and I seem.
Attempted because it's not going

1972
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:56,840
to last and it didn't, so I mean
sorry, Coach Kev told.

1973
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,600
That story on me, man, He told
that story about your guy on me,

1974
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,360
Robbie, I remember.
Hey Chris.

1975
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:02,880
But let me ask you how that
affects though.

1976
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:05,480
Does is someone like actually?
Both of.

1977
01:39:05,480 --> 01:39:09,320
Y'all because you know.
Chris.

1978
01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,720
Keelan coming out this year and
then Kevin just coming out.

1979
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,240
Kevin Cowan coming out just a
few years ago.

1980
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:17,600
Do they watch it?
Do they care about it?

1981
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:20,600
Because the honest truth is I'm
going to sit here.

1982
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:25,040
Keelan Adams was a 94, I hate to
say that number, And now he's an

1983
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:27,480
89 somehow.
What changed with Keelan Adams?

1984
01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:28,800
He's playing the same
competition.

1985
01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,000
He's burning them the same
fucking way.

1986
01:39:31,200 --> 01:39:33,880
He's breaking state records left
and right.

1987
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:37,120
Fucking records.
He's a fucking Allstate for his

1988
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,960
third year, and because he want
to go Virginia Tech and not

1989
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:45,160
Alabama or not Georgia or not
Texas or not Florida, we got to

1990
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:46,680
lower him down because he ain't
that good.

1991
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,920
He ain't that good.
That kid just fucking broke

1992
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,040
records.
Go back to all of the guys who

1993
01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,600
have played wide receiver in
this state.

1994
01:39:54,440 --> 01:39:55,240
There's a.
Lot of them.

1995
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,360
There's a lot of good ones.
Does he look at it or does he

1996
01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:00,120
say screw them?
I'm going to show them on the

1997
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,840
field.
OK, so I'm going to tell you

1998
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:03,800
his.
Progression go for it.

1999
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:08,360
When they first came out.
When they first came out with

2000
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:11,600
his the class and he was the
number 11th ranked player in the

2001
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,320
country country.
In the country.

2002
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:20,200
And for a minute he was like,
I'm not getting the offers.

2003
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:22,440
I don't know what to do.
And that really bothered him.

2004
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:26,560
Then he got before he took his
first high school snap.

2005
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:29,920
He got nine offers before he
took his first high school snap.

2006
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,120
Then he was like.
OK, I got these nine offers.

2007
01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:40,000
Then he turned around and he did
the only thing that ever knocked

2008
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,760
Keeling down.
And I always blame my whenever

2009
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:47,520
he has something that goes left
and I'm not there, Kevin.

2010
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,680
I blame me because I feel, as
his father is my responsibility

2011
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:53,600
to protect him.
I was working.

2012
01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:57,960
My wife took him to Baltimore,
to a Under Armour camp and he

2013
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:02,440
ran the 40, right?
And I wasn't there to not have

2014
01:41:02,440 --> 01:41:06,160
him run the 40 because the 40 is
a test that you really only need

2015
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,320
to take one time.
You run it one time and that's

2016
01:41:09,440 --> 01:41:11,560
all you ever have to do is you
never have to run it again.

2017
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:15,760
So he ran the 40.
His time was atrocious and they

2018
01:41:15,760 --> 01:41:19,200
ranked him as he was slow.
He wasn't this but if you look

2019
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:22,560
at any of his tape, any of his
huddle tape, Keeneland has never

2020
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:25,920
been walked down in the in the
years I've watched him play

2021
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:27,720
ever.
No one's ever caught him from

2022
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:31,080
behind ever.
So and and really be honest with

2023
01:41:31,080 --> 01:41:34,080
you, he's faster now than he was
last year.

2024
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,320
He's just more explosive than he
was last year.

2025
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:41,080
So when Keelan went to that camp
and Under Armour knocked him and

2026
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:44,240
hit him for that 40 because they
were like, oh, if you run this

2027
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:46,080
40, you can go to this All
American game.

2028
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,520
He'd be in the ninth grade.
He's like, I just want to go to

2029
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,760
All American game.
He didn't know if he just kept

2030
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:51,600
playing.
He was going to get the

2031
01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:53,080
opportunity to go to the All
American game.

2032
01:41:53,680 --> 01:41:57,280
So he turned around, they
knocked him down, they they

2033
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:58,960
raided him and he wasn't this,
that and the other.

2034
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,480
And then he kept working his way
back up.

2035
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:03,440
So there was nothing he ever did
wrong.

2036
01:42:03,960 --> 01:42:05,720
He doesn't do a lot of social
media stuff.

2037
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,760
He doesn't, he doesn't like
doing interviews.

2038
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:11,520
I have to fight him to get him
to do interviews, to make so

2039
01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:14,320
people will talk to him.
You got him.

2040
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:16,040
I've been trying.
To get him to go on everybody's

2041
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:17,240
stuff so they can get to know
him.

2042
01:42:17,640 --> 01:42:20,960
So yeah, yeah, Dan, Dan, Dan
Dan's the guy.

2043
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,760
And but it was just to the point
with him.

2044
01:42:24,040 --> 01:42:27,680
He got to the point he says I
don't care about the rankings

2045
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:31,640
because I'm already committed
and I'm going to college and

2046
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,240
I'm, I'm good with the fact the
only thing he was pissed about

2047
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:38,160
is when he took his star.
Excuse me.

2048
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:41,880
So I'm the one that gets pissed
about the star situation because

2049
01:42:42,680 --> 01:42:47,760
to me, if he didn't do anything
egregious off the field like

2050
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:50,240
this, I'm stupid.
Which he doesn't do.

2051
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:54,200
Then what he's done on the field
has been nothing but stellar.

2052
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,440
You know, he, you know, you
know, he's, he's been an

2053
01:42:57,440 --> 01:42:59,080
excellent ball player on the
field.

2054
01:42:59,440 --> 01:43:02,720
I always say this, like this.
He caught more passes than Percy

2055
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:04,640
Harmons.
Percy Harmons was the first guy

2056
01:43:04,640 --> 01:43:06,720
I looked at when I came here to
Virginia Beach.

2057
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:10,320
I saw him catch a bubble screen,
make a step and go away from

2058
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:11,640
him.
I said, oh, that's what the NFL

2059
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:13,400
speed looks like.
I said OK.

2060
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:15,440
That's what I.
Said So.

2061
01:43:15,440 --> 01:43:19,040
I said OK if he can pass him and
get the yards and the

2062
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:21,240
touchdowns.
Everything else is, is, is, you

2063
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:23,960
know, through the room.
Right.

2064
01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:25,880
So what?
What I've always learned here,

2065
01:43:25,880 --> 01:43:28,000
and I don't know, Kevin, if you
feel like what happens down

2066
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:32,200
there in Texas, the 757 hates
their own, OK?

2067
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:34,240
And we taping this so they'll be
able to say it.

2068
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:39,320
The 757 hates their own.
And I say that because all the

2069
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,720
great players that have ever
come out of here, they don't

2070
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:43,640
come back.
They don't.

2071
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:45,880
Come back?
To do do stuff in the area.

2072
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:50,600
They love Iverson, but the other
guys they they, you know, Xavier

2073
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:52,160
DB is right there in Virginia
Tech.

2074
01:43:52,320 --> 01:43:55,080
There shouldn't be a player that
comes out of Phoebus that

2075
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:59,080
shouldn't go to Virginia Tech
because Xavier DB is an absolute

2076
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:03,640
stud.
But because this area hates

2077
01:44:03,640 --> 01:44:05,840
their own players, they don't
come back.

2078
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:07,240
That's crazy.
So I.

2079
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:08,200
Mean.
Think about it.

2080
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:10,440
Y'all don't understand.
Alonzo Mourning.

2081
01:44:10,440 --> 01:44:11,920
If y'all didn't know he's from
Chesapeake.

2082
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,200
You thought he was from Miami,
right?

2083
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:17,080
D'Angelo Hall.
I haven't seen him here in Ever,

2084
01:44:17,480 --> 01:44:19,520
right.
Dre Blige just came here to rape

2085
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:22,400
the area when he was playing.
Rape is the appropriate.

2086
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,960
Word rape the area.
Rape the area when he went to.

2087
01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:29,760
Carolina So those guys don't
come back because those guys

2088
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,360
hate their own great players
here.

2089
01:44:32,720 --> 01:44:37,600
So for him, when they took his
star, he was pissed and and low

2090
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:40,200
key.
Yeah, low key.

2091
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:42,080
I'm going to be told I'm going
to say this to you Also on here.

2092
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:44,360
I'm glad they took it, and I'm
gonna tell you why.

2093
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,080
That kid.
He's a different kid When he got

2094
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:49,880
a chip on his shoulder ready to
eat, he's.

2095
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:53,600
An.
Absolute different animal when

2096
01:44:53,600 --> 01:44:56,080
you tell him he can't do
something.

2097
01:44:56,280 --> 01:45:00,120
So they took his star, they
knocked him down.

2098
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:04,400
They said he wasn't this.
And so he'll say, OK, if I'm

2099
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,080
that, let me prove it to you.
Let me show you what I got.

2100
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:09,160
Yeah, let me show you what I
got.

2101
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:13,360
So he he's going to come up
there now, like I said, for me

2102
01:45:13,560 --> 01:45:15,600
and and and Kevin, you
understand what I'm saying?

2103
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,960
Yeah, Number 6:00 in the
morning, that's going to hit.

2104
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:21,640
I always say this everybody that
2:00 in the, everybody's got to

2105
01:45:21,640 --> 01:45:24,440
have their 2:00 in the morning
moment.

2106
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:29,720
Mine was 1988.
I'm flying from Charlotte, NC to

2107
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:31,640
go to San Diego, CA for boot
camp.

2108
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:33,040
I'm there.
I drove off.

2109
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,120
We flew all day.
I got there.

2110
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:37,640
I laid down at 12, o'clock 2:00
in the morning.

2111
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:40,160
They run down the hall with a
garbage can bag and get your ass

2112
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:42,080
up, get your ass up and get
ready.

2113
01:45:42,320 --> 01:45:45,640
And I woke up and I was like, I
don't know where I'm at and I

2114
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:48,720
can't get my ass home.
So I got to figure it out and.

2115
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:51,720
And.
So that's what he's got to have

2116
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,840
happen.
But I don't think.

2117
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,680
I think, like I said and I told
y'all before, I think being in

2118
01:45:56,680 --> 01:46:01,720
that room, excuse me, with those
group of guys we'll be fine.

2119
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,640
But the star system, I'm just
waiting when it's officially

2120
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:08,400
he's at school so I can talk
trash to 24/7, all three and

2121
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:11,400
rivals because I hate all of
them, because I think it.

2122
01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:16,120
I think it really messes with
kids psyche because they have no

2123
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:20,520
idea what to do, what to do, to
get seen, to get ranked, to get

2124
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:24,440
rated and all that stuff
matters, All that all.

2125
01:46:24,440 --> 01:46:26,520
That all that.
Stuff matters when they when

2126
01:46:26,520 --> 01:46:29,120
they're like you'll see guys,
you look look at their write

2127
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:32,840
ups, like if you look at his
24/7, Keelan's 24/7 write up,

2128
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:37,400
they didn't rank, they didn't
compare him to a pro player.

2129
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:41,280
They they compared him to a guy
in College in fucking Penn

2130
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:42,920
State.
Excuse me, I've been drinking.

2131
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:45,560
That's what it's about.
Tonight.

2132
01:46:46,840 --> 01:46:48,240
He's in Penn.
He's in Penn.

2133
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:50,120
He's in Penn State.
God damn it.

2134
01:46:50,480 --> 01:46:53,320
And so I'm like, how you going
to compare him to a guy that's

2135
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:55,960
in Penn State that hasn't broken
out when you try to give him a

2136
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,040
comparison?
You gave all the other jokers,

2137
01:46:58,040 --> 01:47:01,000
pro guys, oh, this guy, this
guy, this guy, you know, But

2138
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:03,840
y'all gave him a guy in college
who you know, who's having a

2139
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:06,720
hard time figuring, you know,
whether he want to stay or want

2140
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:07,800
to go.
He can't get the boy.

2141
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:09,800
He got the ass quarterback, all
that kind of stuff.

2142
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:14,840
So it kind of pissed me off.
But it doesn't affect him like

2143
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:17,240
it affects me.
He's like, I don't care.

2144
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,640
I'm going to college.
I'm, I'm, I'm, I got a free

2145
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:23,440
ride.
So, you know, yeah, I I got, I

2146
01:47:23,440 --> 01:47:24,960
got.
Well, I don't have a free ride.

2147
01:47:24,960 --> 01:47:25,920
I got a ride.
I got to work.

2148
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:26,840
Exactly.
But I got a.

2149
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:28,320
Great chance that.
I ain't got to go to school and

2150
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:31,560
pay no and no and no college
students and that.

2151
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:33,760
And that's.
And that's that's his mindset.

2152
01:47:33,760 --> 01:47:35,600
That's what we That's why I.
Wanted to leave that Dwight

2153
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,600
Victoria quote up there.
Curtis, throw it back on me.

2154
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,080
I'm throwing it back because I'm
also messaging Dwight.

2155
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:41,960
See if you want to hop on with
us tonight man.

2156
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:44,600
Man, that is my.
Hey, listen, that is my guy,

2157
01:47:44,680 --> 01:47:48,800
White as we.
Do I love them so?

2158
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:50,640
Much man for them, just.
Spending time When?

2159
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:53,200
You're talking to me, man.
I love those cats, man.

2160
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,760
I like.
Everyone of you have been very

2161
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:59,960
vocal on Twitter and other space
like other platforms about this

2162
01:47:59,960 --> 01:48:03,760
whole thing.
I remember they dropped Keelan

2163
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:06,480
and Keelan hadn't had any new
tape in like 7 or 8 months.

2164
01:48:06,480 --> 01:48:08,000
So I'm like, where's your?
We railed on that.

2165
01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:09,440
Shit.
I mean, we railed on it.

2166
01:48:09,440 --> 01:48:14,160
Dan railed on it.
He reeled on it. 3 words.

2167
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:16,240
No, they dropped.
Him. 3 words ball don't lie.

2168
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:19,360
No, dude, they dropped.
No, they dropped him.

2169
01:48:19,480 --> 01:48:23,200
They dropped him after he.
They dropped him after he he

2170
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,400
broke the touchdown, right?
Yeah, that was crazy.

2171
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:26,840
Clown.
Clown Dick, baby.

2172
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:31,560
Yeah, yeah, I I turned around.
I clicked on it and I was just

2173
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:34,440
scrolling.
I was like, they dropped him.

2174
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:37,240
So you know, his Mama is like,
y'all got me.

2175
01:48:37,440 --> 01:48:40,600
His mom's real bad.
She like she she goes off

2176
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:42,280
because she felt like they're
attacking her baby.

2177
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:44,560
Kevin, you know how that is.
You don't attack my baby.

2178
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,920
You know, no matter what, I've
had some serious.

2179
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:49,360
Talks don't mess.
With Obama, man.

2180
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:52,600
Don't mess with Mama, Mama and
girlfriend.

2181
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:55,320
I had some.
Serious talks?

2182
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,920
And then when you look at it on
the other side, the kid who we

2183
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:02,720
had committed for a long time,
Marcella's Barnes.

2184
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,000
OK, yeah, they start writing up
stuff.

2185
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,760
They had him as a three star the
whole time and then they start

2186
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,720
writing up stuff about him going
to Georgia and then he jumps to

2187
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:13,960
a four-star.
I say, you son of a bitches,

2188
01:49:13,960 --> 01:49:18,000
like what are we doing?
Like y'all just making it

2189
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:20,040
obvious.
Y'all making it obvious what it

2190
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:21,640
is.
So come on, man.

2191
01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:22,800
Like I've had.
Yeah.

2192
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,960
I've I've had, I've had guys
say, hey, listen, the reason

2193
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:28,360
they drive them because he went
here, I said, what the fuck?

2194
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,720
What does that mean?
Watch the fucking tape.

2195
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,000
You know what I'm.
Saying like watch the fucking

2196
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:36,360
tape his tape.
Is what his tape?

2197
01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:39,840
Is and you know and and it it it
goes from there.

2198
01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:43,120
So it's just to the point where
when if it gets back, when it

2199
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:45,000
gets back, not if.
But when you get back to the

2200
01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:48,920
point that we're winning 8910
games, we're winning game, we're

2201
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:50,640
winning bowl games, we're being
decisive.

2202
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:54,440
Then when kids decide to come
here then coaches y'all know the

2203
01:49:54,440 --> 01:49:57,280
narrative will change.
Well, hey, I mean shoot, I'll be

2204
01:49:57,280 --> 01:49:59,560
honest with you.
There's been kids this past

2205
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:02,240
cycle who jumped out The Who in
the portal.

2206
01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:06,800
They're hitting me like, hey
Chris, you know, hey coach, hey.

2207
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:11,080
And I ain't coaching nothing.
Can you go, can you go call and

2208
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:13,680
talk to such and such and such
and such to get me in?

2209
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:18,160
And I'm telling them point
blank, hey man, ain't no room.

2210
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:20,640
And they look at me.
What you mean ain't no room, I

2211
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:21,520
said.
There.

2212
01:50:21,520 --> 01:50:24,400
Is no, there is no room.
So we doing the state of the

2213
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,240
program.
I, you know, I'm like there's a

2214
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:28,480
cornerback.
Yeah, there's a cornerback.

2215
01:50:28,600 --> 01:50:30,240
Yeah, Yes, I said there's a
cornerback.

2216
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:31,600
Hey, there's no room in that
room.

2217
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:33,240
They said, what you mean?
I said, 'cause they got this

2218
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:36,080
guy, they got this guy, they got
this guy that they got last

2219
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,160
year, you know, they got a Dante
Lovett, they got a Braylon

2220
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,520
Johnson, they got, they like,
God damn Chris, how you know?

2221
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:42,840
I said because it's what I do.
I ain't got nothing else to do,

2222
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,320
you know, I'm watching it.
I said no room.

2223
01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:46,560
They're, they're.
They're not.

2224
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,240
Going to bring you in and they
got these over here.

2225
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:52,960
Who jumped in the boat when?
Nobody.

2226
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:58,120
Else.
Wanted.

2227
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:03,040
To.
Jump in the boat.

2228
01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:07,000
Oh, hey, we said.
We keep it loose, man.

2229
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,440
If they want to jump on, hey,
here we are, Dwight.

2230
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:12,320
I messaged Dwight earlier and I
say, Dwight, you going to the

2231
01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:14,080
bowl game?
He didn't get back to me because

2232
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:15,240
I know his son's playing.
Oops.

2233
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,320
No, no, no.
We own right now.

2234
01:51:19,880 --> 01:51:22,120
His son is driving.
Through the lane and dunking on

2235
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:25,680
kids, I was.
I meant to respond.

2236
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:27,720
And I got tired of I I looked at
the message.

2237
01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:29,120
When you say you want to get on,
I said, Damn.

2238
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:30,720
I never responded to your first
question.

2239
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:40,800
Yes, I will be at the ball game.
Yes, I'll be there.

2240
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:44,600
We made nothing.
That's fine.

2241
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:45,400
That's fine.
Yeah.

2242
01:51:45,440 --> 01:51:48,040
The white I'lbr so.
Listen.

2243
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:51,520
I used.
To write for 247 Sports Now.

2244
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:54,520
Before that I was I wrote for
Rivals, so I wrote for Rivals on

2245
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:58,200
Hokey Haven.
I had a a column called

2246
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:04,200
Victoria's Viewpoints and it was
when Brian Moore ran Hokey Haven

2247
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:08,320
and he left and 247 popped off.
I joined 247 with CCY.

2248
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:13,400
Evan and some other guys had a
great time and because I did

2249
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:16,280
stuff, I used to do football
camps back then and that's why I

2250
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:18,840
got the behind the scenes stuff
for how it works.

2251
01:52:19,480 --> 01:52:21,000
And I used to get into it with
those guys.

2252
01:52:21,000 --> 01:52:26,040
Not Evan, not Evan Watkins.
But like, for example, this guy

2253
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:29,320
I heard you fist.
Thought Evan Watkins in a

2254
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:31,240
parking lot.
That's what I heard.

2255
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:31,880
What?
Nah.

2256
01:52:32,440 --> 01:52:33,960
Nah, Evan, I said.
I.

2257
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,680
Heard you fist, thought Evan
Watkins in the parking.

2258
01:52:36,680 --> 01:52:37,680
No, no, no, no, no.
No.

2259
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:40,160
Jeremy.
Evan's my God.

2260
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,520
Evan's my God.
But like I just got into it.

2261
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:47,360
A few guys for other sites and I
would say y'all y'all are so

2262
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:50,440
biased.
Like for example, one year.

2263
01:52:50,440 --> 01:52:51,600
I don't know if y'all remember
this.

2264
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:54,440
Oscar Smith had Josh Wett.
JC Coleman.

2265
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:56,320
Yes, Sir.
Andrew Brown.

2266
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:58,200
Andrew Brown.
They.

2267
01:52:58,800 --> 01:53:01,360
Had another guy that.
Went, he went to Tech.

2268
01:53:01,360 --> 01:53:02,880
He's a four-star receiver,
right.

2269
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:06,480
He ended up not playing long.
They played Centerville in the

2270
01:53:06,480 --> 01:53:09,720
state championship at UVA.
Centerville smoked them right

2271
01:53:10,400 --> 01:53:11,920
the whole year.
Centerville was the Mornington

2272
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:15,080
State for most of the year and I
got into it with my guy that

2273
01:53:15,080 --> 01:53:18,760
runs the the, the the Cavs
corner.

2274
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:23,600
Brad and I said why did y'all
not cover any Northern Virginia,

2275
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,360
especially Centerville?
I said what kind of he's like,

2276
01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:27,280
well, we just couldn't get up
there.

2277
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:29,600
I said y'all y'all kill me, but
y'all can't get to certain

2278
01:53:29,600 --> 01:53:31,720
schools but y'all have y'all
find a way.

2279
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:35,360
We're getting a a lot of
coverage to schools that are

2280
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,000
going to give y'all a lot of
bump.

2281
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,640
So for example I have nothing
against Oscar Smith.

2282
01:53:39,640 --> 01:53:41,760
Oscar Smith, One of the best
programs in state year in a year

2283
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:44,000
out, they going to give you.
They will give you buzz, though,

2284
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:45,160
but they're going to give you a
buzz.

2285
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:48,920
Because they had Andrew Brown,
Josh Sweat, JC Coleman, Jason

2286
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:52,120
Coleman, Shout to my brother.
But like if if you're going to

2287
01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:55,680
be in this business, be fair, be
non bias.

2288
01:53:56,320 --> 01:54:01,280
That's I'm a 757 guy, but I'm
not biased against the 8O47-O3

2289
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:03,200
or even Southwest Virginia.
That's my own thing.

2290
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:07,320
And so, Dwight.
You're you're you're saying

2291
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:11,320
basically that in some ways the
way these rankings work, and for

2292
01:54:11,320 --> 01:54:13,720
one thing, having only five
stars seems a little

2293
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:16,640
inappropriate.
It like it seems you're a three

2294
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:19,280
or a four that there's variation
exactly.

2295
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:23,160
But that's besides the point.
They base a lot of this off the

2296
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:26,240
committable offers.
It's not just offers, it's

2297
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:29,440
committable offers.
So that way when you accept that

2298
01:54:29,440 --> 01:54:33,280
offer from Georgia or whatever
it may be, they'll bump you.

2299
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:37,240
So they're basing their ratings
off of other people's work.

2300
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:42,040
And so if you, if you want to do
that, that's fine to base it off

2301
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:44,000
someone else's work.
But you got to be upfront about

2302
01:54:44,000 --> 01:54:46,560
that, that we're transparent.
We're moving these kids up and

2303
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:48,680
down because of where they're
getting offers that we know are

2304
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:50,000
committable and they're doing
it.

2305
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,920
But that's not what they say.
They say this is our ranking,

2306
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:56,040
and when they get more NFL draft
picks right out of their top

2307
01:54:56,040 --> 01:54:59,640
247, they take credit.
But you're basing those rankings

2308
01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:02,960
off of the committable offers,
which means you're using the

2309
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:06,520
coaches evaluations for a school
like, but also at that point.

2310
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,280
But go ahead.
Go ahead, Jeremy.

2311
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:11,480
It's a little.
Too personal?

2312
01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:15,400
Yes, it and it's.
Subjective to to every school

2313
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:17,000
and their needs and the way they
evaluate.

2314
01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:22,160
For Virginia Tech, it's going to
be about whether we hit with Pry

2315
01:55:22,160 --> 01:55:24,640
and his staff.
If we believe that their

2316
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,720
evaluations are correct, we're
in a position where none of our

2317
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:31,640
guys, because of the way this
system works, it's always going.

2318
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:33,560
To be.
More challenging for us to get

2319
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:37,560
the 8 four stars, the 9, four
stars in a class, because

2320
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:41,160
unfortunately Keelan Adams is
going to commit and he's going

2321
01:55:41,160 --> 01:55:43,440
to drop and this guy's going to
commit and he's going to drop.

2322
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:45,560
Sure.
So.

2323
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:46,880
Here's the thing.
And.

2324
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:49,200
This is my issue and I hate
saying this, but I'm I'll always

2325
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:51,480
keep it honest, especially when
I jump on this joint with y'all.

2326
01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:55,040
The issue I have.
Just because I play football

2327
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:57,960
does not mean I know everything
and I know how to evaluate

2328
01:55:57,960 --> 01:55:59,280
talent.
Doesn't mean I can coach.

2329
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:02,040
You guys have just as much as
insight that I do.

2330
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:07,640
However, my issue is some of
those guys, many of those guys

2331
01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:10,480
that are covering these these
these little websites and and

2332
01:56:10,480 --> 01:56:14,680
these different like recruiting
sites, they don't have the

2333
01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,400
insight or wherewithal to
understand how you should

2334
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:20,400
evaluate.
So for example a couple years

2335
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,840
ago I I was doing the Kyle
Bailey Show before he started

2336
01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:25,120
covering the Panthers and the
Hornets and he used to have the

2337
01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:28,640
show in in Blacksburg and I I.
Jumped on with.

2338
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:30,640
Kyle, Kyle.
Kyle's my one of my closest

2339
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:31,840
friends.
I jumped on with Kyle and I

2340
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:34,720
talked about a lineman, a tech
guy who I like.

2341
01:56:34,720 --> 01:56:37,600
Based on the film.
I immediately got a text.

2342
01:56:37,600 --> 01:56:40,320
I'm not going to say the guy's
name but he worked for Rivals

2343
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:43,640
and he was like really Victoria
really he has offers from

2344
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:48,640
Bowling Green, JMU blah blah
blah and I said but yet y'all

2345
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:52,360
hype.
Another guy who is a four-star

2346
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:56,480
who I seen get work every time I
saw him play in the camp and and

2347
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:59,320
and the thing about this is that
y'all looking at he got big 10

2348
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:01,640
off us.
I said if you look at the where

2349
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:04,400
he plays in the Midwest he's
playing against lineman the size

2350
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:08,240
of my 13 year old daughter.
He's not really against dogs.

2351
01:57:08,680 --> 01:57:10,160
So.
When he gets to cut and.

2352
01:57:10,160 --> 01:57:11,600
Showing up.
I was right again.

2353
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:14,720
My point being some of these
guys, many of these guys get

2354
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:17,360
these jobs because they're
fanboys.

2355
01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:19,960
They don't know how to evaluate.
And this is what I think and

2356
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:21,400
this.
I'm going to stand on this right

2357
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,520
quick.
That's what I think Brendan Hill

2358
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:26,120
was trying to say, but I think
he's so outspoken.

2359
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:28,720
Some fans, tech fans, got mad.
I know what you're.

2360
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:33,240
About to say I'm saying tech.
Does not need five and four

2361
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:36,160
stars, he said.
Many of these guys are labeled 5

2362
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:38,960
and four stars.
Aren't the dogs Y'all think they

2363
01:57:38,960 --> 01:57:41,200
are.
They're not.

2364
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:43,080
They're not.
You know what I'm saying?

2365
01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,120
Yeah, I'm a trust a guy.
Like when?

2366
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:48,160
When B Hill.
Said stars don't matter.

2367
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:51,320
It wasn't that stars.
Don't matter, you.

2368
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:53,760
You don't need to get the best
players on campus.

2369
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:56,800
It's that you need to look
beyond just what the stars say,

2370
01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:59,120
and you especially.
Need to look beyond what the

2371
01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:00,920
folks say when you're at
Virginia Tech.

2372
01:58:01,280 --> 01:58:04,560
Like I I go ahead Dan, I feel
like a lot.

2373
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:07,920
Of these there's that watching
because I'm he's a Texas kid.

2374
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:12,440
For an example, Cam Ward.
His high school was very run

2375
01:58:12,440 --> 01:58:14,360
dominant I believe.
So he didn't have the numbers.

2376
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:18,840
He ended up at Incarn Ward.
This man is nasty preaching wing

2377
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:19,480
team.
Go.

2378
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:21,520
Ahead preaching.
He preaching.

2379
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:22,680
Damn.
That's current kid.

2380
01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:25,600
That's right.
Yeah.

2381
01:58:26,360 --> 01:58:27,760
Cam Ward is Karen.
'S cousin.

2382
01:58:27,760 --> 01:58:30,160
They ran the wing T Yeah, no
shit.

2383
01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:39,840
Who sent all?
Black people over.

2384
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:41,760
There.
Full circle, full circle.

2385
01:58:43,040 --> 01:58:43,440
Where's?
He.

2386
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:45,640
Going.
Where's Cam Ward going to end

2387
01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:46,680
up?
Is it going to be FSU?

2388
01:58:46,680 --> 01:58:50,440
Is it going to be Miami?
It's.

2389
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:51,960
Going to be somebody we.
Play.

2390
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:57,600
I need him out of the AC.
I need him out of the ACC, so.

2391
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:03,000
You know why you want him?
The ACC It's going.

2392
01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:06,320
To be.
December next year, Charlotte,

2393
01:59:06,960 --> 01:59:09,080
all this truth right here ain't
going to be there because we're

2394
01:59:09,080 --> 01:59:11,680
going to stay in Robbie's house
for the night, drive down for 90

2395
01:59:12,160 --> 01:59:13,800
minutes.
Now we we we going to be, we

2396
01:59:13,840 --> 01:59:16,200
going to be in the stands next
to each other talking about

2397
01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:17,920
this.
That's what we fucking adult.

2398
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:20,280
You damn.
But I I'll give but but yeah.

2399
01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:21,400
I'll, I'll give Y'all.
Go ahead.

2400
01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:22,440
Go ahead.
I'll be quiet.

2401
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:23,560
Go ahead, Chris.
Go ahead, Chris.

2402
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:25,080
No, no.
But what y'all?

2403
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:29,040
Was saying about and and what
and Dwight was saying about what

2404
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,560
they what they say.
Is that the only reason?

2405
01:59:31,640 --> 01:59:35,120
He never got his fifth star
beforehand and and I had one of

2406
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:38,440
the writers from 2470 says.
Well, he doesn't run track.

2407
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:41,960
And Keith was like, why do I
need to run track?

2408
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:44,960
No one has ever caught me from
Watch the Tape.

2409
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:47,480
Yeah.
My tape, he said.

2410
01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:51,200
My tape stands alone that that,
that, that.

2411
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:52,760
I've never been walked down from
behind.

2412
01:59:52,760 --> 01:59:56,680
And I work on explosiveness all
the time to get bigger, faster

2413
01:59:56,680 --> 01:59:58,080
and stronger.
People don't talk about.

2414
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:00,000
Game speed versus like raw
speed.

2415
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:01,640
Don't run track.
People don't talk about that.

2416
02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:04,360
Enough game speed is a different
animal.

2417
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:08,840
It is but.
But also I mean Kevin can also

2418
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:13,360
understand listen man them
dudes, those dudes and Dwight

2419
02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:14,920
back in the day they didn't had
this.

2420
02:00:15,240 --> 02:00:18,880
I mean that that kid, he looks
at me, he gets pissed at me when

2421
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:20,480
I'm like, yo, this your schedule
for the week?

2422
02:00:20,720 --> 02:00:24,280
And he looking at me like, yo,
hey man, I got I don't want to

2423
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:25,600
go to.
Training three times.

2424
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:27,640
This week, man, I don't want to
go.

2425
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:30,480
Do this.
I I physically hurt.

2426
02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:33,240
You know Kevin you you got Karen
in the back of the car.

2427
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:35,640
He's just laying in the back of
the car like somebody.

2428
02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:38,800
It is, it's.
Funny and and we talked to her.

2429
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:41,480
We do these character talks and
each coach.

2430
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:43,440
Has a.
Person you know you have respect

2431
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:48,720
me you got to talk about.
So this is right after Karen.

2432
02:00:48,720 --> 02:00:52,520
'S senior year to.
Spring and I I'm coming out of

2433
02:00:52,520 --> 02:00:55,160
basketball and they're like,
hey, you got to talk today like

2434
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:56,560
5 minutes.
I'm going to go talk to the

2435
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:57,760
team.
I don't know what to talk about.

2436
02:00:57,760 --> 02:01:02,400
So I was like, look, I think a
lot of you kids are so hype on

2437
02:01:03,320 --> 02:01:07,320
getting recruited and not the
work that goes into it.

2438
02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:13,120
Like you want the pictures, you
want the the notoriety, but you

2439
02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:15,000
don't understand what goes
behind it.

2440
02:01:15,400 --> 02:01:21,160
And I said I can just tell you
from my house that year, that

2441
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:24,800
was the COVID year, so.
We lose to Katie.

2442
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:28,520
Which is one of the premier
programs in Houston, in Texas.

2443
02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:32,880
So we lose the KD on a Saturday
afternoon.

2444
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:36,720
Karen's already graduated.
He's headed to Baylor.

2445
02:01:37,680 --> 02:01:41,440
He's one of the lead 11 finals,
top 11 in the country.

2446
02:01:42,080 --> 02:01:44,360
And.
Sunday.

2447
02:01:44,760 --> 02:01:47,800
Morning.
I wake up to the ring on my

2448
02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,560
phone and he's leaving on this
first workout.

2449
02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:53,960
I I don't know the.
Last time I had to tell Karen to

2450
02:01:53,960 --> 02:01:56,400
work out.
Like he's going to.

2451
02:01:56,400 --> 02:01:59,400
Go do that on his own, like,
like.

2452
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:02,520
When he went to.
When he went off to school at

2453
02:02:02,520 --> 02:02:07,360
17, the first thing I was like,
look, I don't worry about you on

2454
02:02:07,360 --> 02:02:09,520
the field.
I don't worry about you working

2455
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:13,120
out.
All that is what you do when I

2456
02:02:13,120 --> 02:02:17,680
told him at 17 was you got to
fall in love with the film and

2457
02:02:17,680 --> 02:02:21,920
the process of learning the
position because you've gotten

2458
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,520
away with some stuff in high
school.

2459
02:02:24,520 --> 02:02:27,440
Now you got to learn how to take
it and learn the classroom part

2460
02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:30,920
of the offensive, the
quarterback being a quarterback.

2461
02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:33,040
I don't worry about the other
stuff.

2462
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:34,320
That stuff will take care of
itself.

2463
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:37,200
So I want.
These.

2464
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:40,120
Kids and I I'm a recruiting
coordinator and I try to tell

2465
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:43,560
these kids like don't get caught
up in going to take these photos

2466
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:46,200
and these pictures and do all
this stuff and what these write

2467
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:48,960
ups say I.
And I you.

2468
02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:50,760
Know y'all probably see me on
Twitter.

2469
02:02:50,760 --> 02:02:53,200
I just say, hey, chop wood,
yeah.

2470
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:55,640
OK.
Yeah, I mean, if you get down

2471
02:02:55,680 --> 02:02:57,520
chop wood.
Like, we're not even worried

2472
02:02:57,560 --> 02:02:58,320
about it.
Go to work.

2473
02:02:58,440 --> 02:03:00,840
Head down, chop wood let's.
Put put the.

2474
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:04,560
Do what you do.
If you do what you do ours, We

2475
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:07,560
go to Elite. 11 and that's the
COVID year.

2476
02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:11,320
So we had to do like a video,
like it wasn't a camp.

2477
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:13,400
So we had to video him running a
40.

2478
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:17,200
We had to take pictures of his
hands and all that stuff and he

2479
02:03:17,200 --> 02:03:20,040
gets the call that.
He made it so.

2480
02:03:20,040 --> 02:03:23,480
We go to Tennessee.
And that.

2481
02:03:23,480 --> 02:03:24,720
Year.
The.

2482
02:03:24,920 --> 02:03:25,560
The.
Family.

2483
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:27,560
Could stay in the room with the
kid.

2484
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:30,760
Well, I got a hotel in.
A different hotel.

2485
02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:32,600
I got a room in a different
hotel because I want him to

2486
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:35,240
focus on the competition.
I have.

2487
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:38,000
AI have a conversation, It's
funny, Y'all, said Demetrius.

2488
02:03:38,000 --> 02:03:41,240
Dave, I have a conversation with
his dad and his dad's like, oh,

2489
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:45,280
I say, hey, we, you know, we're
going to go back to our hotels

2490
02:03:45,720 --> 02:03:47,000
and he was like, you're not
staying with him.

2491
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:50,920
I was like, no, he's like, he's
like I said now I want him to

2492
02:03:50,920 --> 02:03:53,960
focus on his competition.
I don't want him, you know, us

2493
02:03:53,960 --> 02:03:54,720
having the.
TV.

2494
02:03:54,720 --> 02:03:57,160
On or, you know fighting with
his sister or whatever.

2495
02:03:57,520 --> 02:04:00,920
And he's like, they already know
that the 11 or you can tell your

2496
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:04,000
kid whatever you want to tell.
At the end of that first.

2497
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:07,440
Day the list comes out, Karen's
like dad.

2498
02:04:07,560 --> 02:04:09,720
They got, they got me #5, I
said.

2499
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:13,240
All them fucked up.
Right, right.

2500
02:04:13,800 --> 02:04:15,440
Right.
Right.

2501
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:20,120
Listen, man.
I want to say.

2502
02:04:21,120 --> 02:04:22,160
I want to say something right
quick.

2503
02:04:22,160 --> 02:04:24,960
Y'all.
So when you when you hear

2504
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:29,600
stories like that of of men
being involved with their kids,

2505
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:35,560
I don't know how many people are
involved like with sports, if

2506
02:04:35,560 --> 02:04:39,800
you're just fans, you have to
listen that stuff like that to

2507
02:04:39,880 --> 02:04:42,360
understand recruiting.
Because anytime I talk to Y'all

2508
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:45,240
about recruiting, anytime I'm on
Twitter, I talk to y'all as a

2509
02:04:45,240 --> 02:04:48,800
fan, but I also talk to y'all as
a dad of a kid that is involved

2510
02:04:48,800 --> 02:04:50,840
in sports.
My son is 13.

2511
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:53,720
He's never played football like
where we are.

2512
02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:57,800
You they, they ban football.
When you're small, it's you.

2513
02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:00,280
You play flag football until you
get to a certain age.

2514
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:04,600
He's in 8th grade this year and
he made all city as a wide

2515
02:05:04,600 --> 02:05:06,800
receiver.
He wanted to be a quarterback.

2516
02:05:06,800 --> 02:05:08,640
He's left-handed.
He's tall.

2517
02:05:08,640 --> 02:05:10,920
He wanted to be a quarterback.
They put him at wide receiver.

2518
02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:14,320
For a kid that can't throw, he
just knows how to go up and get

2519
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:17,000
the ball.
Now I told him, and I'm just,

2520
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:18,600
I'm I'm saying this for a
reason.

2521
02:05:19,080 --> 02:05:22,360
I told him because everybody
tells me that I'm too hard on my

2522
02:05:22,360 --> 02:05:27,400
son because I told him, look,
you you, you need to fall in

2523
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:30,320
love with the journey.
You keep thinking about the the,

2524
02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:35,920
the, the glory.
Of it You want to talk to me?

2525
02:05:35,920 --> 02:05:38,120
About what the shoes look like
that you going to wear.

2526
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:40,760
You want to talk to me about
your your wristband?

2527
02:05:40,960 --> 02:05:43,520
You got to fall in love with
that journey to get there.

2528
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:46,360
And I told him, I said excuse my
language.

2529
02:05:46,360 --> 02:05:48,920
You going to get stuff just
because you're my girl?

2530
02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:54,360
I'm. 6/2.
I'm 6, two ��350, you going to

2531
02:05:54,360 --> 02:05:57,040
have a certain body because
that's what your all of our

2532
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,000
families big.
You going to be tall, you going

2533
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:00,640
to be strong, you know what I'm
saying?

2534
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:02,320
You going to have a little bit
of athleticism.

2535
02:06:02,560 --> 02:06:06,680
You going to get that just
because of your genetics, but to

2536
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:09,840
go to the?
Go to the next level.

2537
02:06:10,200 --> 02:06:12,880
And how to work.
So when I hear these, when I

2538
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:16,040
hear the white talk about his
son, I talk, I hear Chris, I

2539
02:06:16,040 --> 02:06:19,000
hear Kevin.
When y'all ask about recruiting,

2540
02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:22,120
when we own these spaces or when
we on Twitter and people talk

2541
02:06:22,120 --> 02:06:25,840
about recruiting or how do we do
this and man listen, when you

2542
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:29,160
got men that's involved with
their kids, that recruiting shit

2543
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:32,320
is totally different because
they know something that she's

2544
02:06:32,360 --> 02:06:38,640
not going to get into.
So I'm glad Kevin spoke on that

2545
02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:42,520
and and tell you right I coached
my son in football and

2546
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:45,520
basketball when he was
elementary and middle school,

2547
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:48,360
aged right around the town, he
got the high school, he kind of

2548
02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:50,680
he stopped playing football.
That's what was his better sport

2549
02:06:50,680 --> 02:06:52,520
at the time.
But he leans the basketball.

2550
02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:54,320
He leans the basketball he grew.
7 inches.

2551
02:06:54,320 --> 02:06:57,880
So he's 6-7 and then he.
But when he was younger, he did

2552
02:06:57,880 --> 02:07:01,560
football, basketball on track.
And being related to me, Mike

2553
02:07:01,560 --> 02:07:04,040
and Marcus, it was, you know,
football came natural.

2554
02:07:04,040 --> 02:07:09,560
But Long story short, to Kevin's
point and to your point tally

2555
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:13,440
about the fatherhood and the and
the and the male guidance of

2556
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:15,240
being a dad.
It's tricky.

2557
02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:17,760
And This is why it's different.
That's why I have great insight

2558
02:07:17,760 --> 02:07:20,320
with recruiting.
So, for example, my son plays

2559
02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:24,240
basketball, so most of us in our
family are football players.

2560
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:26,560
So Isaiah is killing it on the
court.

2561
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:31,240
So the last two years he's heard
from American JMU, Mount Saint

2562
02:07:31,240 --> 02:07:37,480
Mary's, Boston College, a slew
of HBCUS, some D2 S He's heard

2563
02:07:37,480 --> 02:07:42,560
from a ton of schools.
And because I've been through

2564
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,600
the process, he has a good head
on his shoulders.

2565
02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:47,440
He's humble, but he's got a lot
of dog in him.

2566
02:07:47,440 --> 02:07:50,840
He's got a lot of confidence,
but it's hard because of social

2567
02:07:50,840 --> 02:07:55,160
media where he sees a guy where
last year against Largo Cam

2568
02:07:55,160 --> 02:07:57,960
Ward, who's one of the best
players in the DMV, Isaiah

2569
02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:00,480
fouled him out in overtime and
got MVP of the game.

2570
02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:04,040
This was on NBC Regional, so all
of East Coast he got MVP.

2571
02:08:05,160 --> 02:08:07,200
Then he also had other games
where he dropped 20.

2572
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:10,760
They lost in the States right?
That summer he played the last

2573
02:08:10,760 --> 02:08:13,240
two years on DC Premier, which
is the Under Armour circuit.

2574
02:08:14,240 --> 02:08:17,080
With that being said, he was
getting contacted by Georgia

2575
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:21,320
Southern, tons of schools, but
for every school that reached

2576
02:08:21,320 --> 02:08:24,360
out, then after a month they
would disappear.

2577
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:25,840
They would take somebody out the
portal.

2578
02:08:25,840 --> 02:08:30,360
The portal and the nil, which
I'm in favor of, has really hurt

2579
02:08:30,680 --> 02:08:34,600
kids high school.
Like if my if my son had played

2580
02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:37,320
before the portal, he would have
15 offers by now.

2581
02:08:37,640 --> 02:08:41,600
Now here's the here's the catch.
You have to be involved because

2582
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:45,080
his mother and I, we're on him
and we keep him locked in.

2583
02:08:45,080 --> 02:08:47,760
He's got the right mindset
because since he was seven years

2584
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:50,960
old, he's been around DeAngelo
Hall, Tyrod Taylor, Michael

2585
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:54,920
Vick, the Sean Jackson, Roddy
White he's going to take.

2586
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:58,240
So he.
Understands it's a he he loves

2587
02:08:58,240 --> 02:08:59,800
the game.
I don't have to wake him up to

2588
02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:03,280
get shots up.
He he watches film He he knows

2589
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:05,320
it's a grind.
He'll understand when the lights

2590
02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:08,240
are on.
So for example, the other night,

2591
02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:11,480
Tuesday night, they played South
Lakes with the top two teams in

2592
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:17,560
Division Six and he had 17-7
assists, 6 boys, 2 steals, 2

2593
02:09:17,560 --> 02:09:21,360
blocks against Jordan Scott.
Jordan Scott had 28.

2594
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:25,680
However, Jordan Scott has an
offer from Maryland and 15 other

2595
02:09:25,680 --> 02:09:27,920
Power Five schools including
Michigan State and Florida

2596
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:30,600
State.
My son, that dunk you saw in the

2597
02:09:30,600 --> 02:09:33,960
lanes when he crossed them up,
he dunked on it after that game.

2598
02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:37,000
By the time.
Midnight came around.

2599
02:09:37,000 --> 02:09:41,000
He had gained 30 new followers
between D1 and D2 Schools,

2600
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:45,720
Maryland, Coastal Carolina, a
bunch of mid majors, some some

2601
02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:49,320
Big 10 schools.
And at the end of the day, the

2602
02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:54,360
reason why the head coach from
South Lakes that we beat sent

2603
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:55,760
out a blast to these college
coaches.

2604
02:09:55,760 --> 02:09:58,360
Y'all need to get on Isaiah vet.
Now here's the catch.

2605
02:09:59,360 --> 02:10:02,480
Here's the catch.
A lot of people hit him up,

2606
02:10:02,480 --> 02:10:04,120
called him.
So they're going to offer him,

2607
02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:05,480
we're going to be by your
school.

2608
02:10:06,040 --> 02:10:07,960
They had practice day, nobody
showed up.

2609
02:10:08,080 --> 02:10:10,520
Now it's the holidays.
They may be there in January.

2610
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:14,520
But The thing is, you have to
have a father or you have to

2611
02:10:14,520 --> 02:10:17,360
have somebody that has the
rationale in their ear.

2612
02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:22,920
Because Twitter, Facebook,
Instagram, Snapchat, friends,

2613
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:27,800
trainers, podcasters, they're
always evaluating these kids and

2614
02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:30,320
saying what they think.
And the kids have to have

2615
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:33,360
somebody in their household in
their ear constantly.

2616
02:10:33,640 --> 02:10:36,880
Or you going to have what you
see with these kids going to UNC

2617
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:40,880
going here going here going here
going here and then by the time

2618
02:10:41,200 --> 02:10:42,880
they they don't they don't have
no career.

2619
02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:45,680
You know what I'm saying?
And and I just wanted to I know

2620
02:10:45,680 --> 02:10:47,320
I didn't want to make it about
me and my son.

2621
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:50,120
But Tally.
Tally no that's for her.

2622
02:10:50,120 --> 02:10:51,080
That's good.
Tally man.

2623
02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:52,680
That's why we got you here.
Your your.

2624
02:10:53,080 --> 02:10:54,160
Your kitties.
Nice.

2625
02:10:56,480 --> 02:10:58,480
And I'm a basketball.
Guy, you're kitties.

2626
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:00,680
Can I say something while?
We talking about I'm not a

2627
02:11:00,720 --> 02:11:04,800
father but also so I know Dwight
that that tech that tech they

2628
02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:08,320
called on your on your kid for
pulling up on Loren was weak but

2629
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:13,440
it.
Was it?

2630
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:16,160
Was we It?
Was we but.

2631
02:11:16,840 --> 02:11:20,440
What I was going to say was I
only played through high school.

2632
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:21,920
I wasn't a world beater or
nothing.

2633
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:24,400
My dad and I, we have a great
relationship now.

2634
02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:27,800
From age 6 to 26 we were not so
good.

2635
02:11:27,880 --> 02:11:30,280
I saw him like 4 * a year family
reunion.

2636
02:11:33,320 --> 02:11:35,400
Me and you were right, right in
the same boat, so he would

2637
02:11:35,400 --> 02:11:36,600
always give me.
Money.

2638
02:11:36,640 --> 02:11:39,320
When he saw me, he got Oh yeah,
here's 100, here's 150.

2639
02:11:39,840 --> 02:11:42,720
I'd be like, that's cool.
But like you never came to a

2640
02:11:42,720 --> 02:11:43,480
game.
Ever.

2641
02:11:43,480 --> 02:11:47,320
All I ever wanted was my dad to
come to a game never came and my

2642
02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:49,520
mom was there all the time.
But the one thing that stuck in

2643
02:11:49,520 --> 02:11:54,000
my head was dad was never there.
But so I appreciate all you men

2644
02:11:54,200 --> 02:11:56,640
on here that have kids and
you're actively involved in

2645
02:11:56,640 --> 02:12:01,880
their sporting lives and Dan is
preaching.

2646
02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:04,960
Right now because.
Because I don't know, I don't

2647
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:07,680
know if y'all know, but Siegler
had a very similar similar

2648
02:12:07,680 --> 02:12:11,400
experience.
My dad was definitely involved,

2649
02:12:11,680 --> 02:12:14,400
but not not someone that I saw
very often.

2650
02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:17,360
He lived in Richmond.
I I grew up in Halifax County.

2651
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:21,920
I saw I saw my dad at a game
once or twice a year.

2652
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:26,400
So shout out to Chris.
Shout out to Kevin for being

2653
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:29,400
there.
Shout out to Tally for being the

2654
02:12:29,400 --> 02:12:32,240
dad that he is.
Shout out to Curtis for being

2655
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:34,440
the dad that he is.
We'd be, We'd be.

2656
02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:36,680
Nas down here, you know what I'm
saying?

2657
02:12:38,240 --> 02:12:42,120
I'm saying there's a lot of love
here and I just want to know the

2658
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:45,960
basketball that are doing right
now everybody's crazy.

2659
02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:46,200
I'm.
I'm.

2660
02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:48,880
Going to switch gears here in a
minute, but I did want to say

2661
02:12:48,880 --> 02:12:52,520
this just about like I said,
talking about my son.

2662
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:55,200
My son has never played travel
basketball.

2663
02:12:55,240 --> 02:12:59,320
He's been a a baseball player,
tall, left-hander, that play,

2664
02:13:00,080 --> 02:13:12,840
that, that play.
Hey.

2665
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:16,200
You know what man, it's crazy
because like I said, my son man

2666
02:13:16,200 --> 02:13:19,240
like he was, he was doing his
thing in baseball like rec

2667
02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:22,280
league stuff and a couple of
parents is like he's too good to

2668
02:13:22,280 --> 02:13:25,080
play with these kids.
Y'all got he need to go and get

2669
02:13:25,080 --> 02:13:27,720
some work and baseball is a lot
of money.

2670
02:13:27,720 --> 02:13:30,200
You know it is a lot of money
that we've had to pay.

2671
02:13:30,560 --> 02:13:33,360
But if that's going to get him
to the next level and we can get

2672
02:13:33,360 --> 02:13:36,600
him a college, get him into
college without paying for it,

2673
02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:39,240
that's what I'm searching for.
But I I say that for a reason.

2674
02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:44,400
He's a baseball kid but he's he
plays every sport now and this

2675
02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:47,600
year in basketball you know he's
he's he's staying out a little

2676
02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:48,720
bit.
He's always been a little bit

2677
02:13:48,720 --> 02:13:50,360
chunk he's staying out a little
bit.

2678
02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:54,440
You know, he's got taller.
He's about 6 foot now and he

2679
02:13:54,440 --> 02:13:57,880
plays every position on, yeah,
he's playing every position on

2680
02:13:57,880 --> 02:14:00,560
the court.
And Huntsville, where we live,

2681
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:03,760
is a big basketball city.
There's a lot of basketball

2682
02:14:04,080 --> 02:14:07,240
players that's come from here
and a lot of these kids start

2683
02:14:07,240 --> 02:14:10,360
getting ranked.
In the 7th grade.

2684
02:14:10,600 --> 02:14:12,880
Like we got 8th graders and 7th
graders.

2685
02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:16,280
We've got 7th graders and 8th
graders that's ranked and Duncan

2686
02:14:16,600 --> 02:14:20,000
and and they try that that dads
are positioning to move up to

2687
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:23,600
varsity all type of stuff.
So we played we played a school

2688
02:14:23,600 --> 02:14:27,280
here that one day and my son, my
son's school that he goes to,

2689
02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:30,920
there's not a basketball school.
You know the the main reason is

2690
02:14:30,920 --> 02:14:33,920
the high school that they go to.
The middle schools are broke up

2691
02:14:33,920 --> 02:14:35,600
into about four different middle
schools.

2692
02:14:35,800 --> 02:14:37,920
So they got a couple of athletes
at every middle school, blah,

2693
02:14:37,920 --> 02:14:40,640
blah, blah.
So the team that my son is on is

2694
02:14:40,640 --> 02:14:43,760
not very good.
And I told him before that game,

2695
02:14:43,760 --> 02:14:46,720
I said, listen, I always send
him some little devotional and

2696
02:14:46,720 --> 02:14:50,280
he used to get mad at me because
he would think that I'm, I'm

2697
02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:52,520
trying to coach him.
I'm trying to make him do

2698
02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:54,760
something.
But now he craves it.

2699
02:14:55,040 --> 02:14:56,400
He said, hey man, you didn't
send me.

2700
02:14:56,720 --> 02:14:58,080
He said you didn't send me
nothing.

2701
02:14:58,080 --> 02:14:59,560
You ain't send me nothing.
You got to send me something.

2702
02:14:59,560 --> 02:15:02,000
So he's playing the school.
They got two kids that are

2703
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:05,600
ranked in in the state on that
team.

2704
02:15:05,600 --> 02:15:07,200
One little boy, he he's very
good.

2705
02:15:07,200 --> 02:15:09,360
He can already dunk.
He can do a lot of stuff with

2706
02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:11,440
the ball.
And I told my son, I said, let

2707
02:15:11,440 --> 02:15:13,000
me tell you something.
I said you can go play this,

2708
02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:14,960
these kids and you going to
lose.

2709
02:15:15,360 --> 02:15:18,640
They got 20 people on their team
and y'all got six.

2710
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:22,000
You're going to lose, I said.
But you as a person can't lose.

2711
02:15:22,760 --> 02:15:24,480
Go bust, they.
Ass, I said.

2712
02:15:24,800 --> 02:15:27,520
I said you should be looking at
that little boy and whatever he

2713
02:15:27,520 --> 02:15:30,000
scored, you should score.
I said Don't listen to your

2714
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:32,360
coach.
If he tell you to pass the ball

2715
02:15:32,360 --> 02:15:34,120
and that little boy score, you
fucking score.

2716
02:15:34,520 --> 02:15:36,240
I said you bust his ass all
game.

2717
02:15:36,520 --> 02:15:38,840
That's what I want you to do.
And that little boy scored, I

2718
02:15:38,840 --> 02:15:42,280
think 13, he scored 13 and you
may have had six rebounds.

2719
02:15:42,560 --> 02:15:46,080
My son had 15 and 10 and they
coaches came to me after the

2720
02:15:46,080 --> 02:15:48,080
game and said, man, you got a
dog on your hands.

2721
02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:50,600
I said y'all been paying for
this.

2722
02:15:50,600 --> 02:15:52,480
This is what we do.
This is what we built.

2723
02:15:53,200 --> 02:15:56,200
I bring all that up to say the
players that we're getting into

2724
02:15:56,200 --> 02:15:58,200
this program are built like
that.

2725
02:15:58,200 --> 02:16:01,920
They got men that's behind them.
That's showing them that's what

2726
02:16:01,920 --> 02:16:04,200
we need and that's the kind of
players you want.

2727
02:16:04,440 --> 02:16:06,600
But I want to switch gears a
little bit because we've been

2728
02:16:06,600 --> 02:16:09,400
talking about rankings and
players in the class for a

2729
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:12,360
little bit.
I just want to go ahead.

2730
02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:14,760
Do I let y'all get get to that?
And I can't wait to hear that.

2731
02:16:14,800 --> 02:16:16,200
I just want to add one last
point.

2732
02:16:16,720 --> 02:16:20,400
What coach Kevin was talking
about, why his son Kyron and

2733
02:16:20,400 --> 02:16:25,680
then other players like that, I
think the average fan doesn't

2734
02:16:25,680 --> 02:16:28,840
realize I'm not talking about
even back in the 90s when I

2735
02:16:28,840 --> 02:16:30,080
play.
I'm talking about in general.

2736
02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:35,680
And I don't think the average
fan, parent or even player in

2737
02:16:35,680 --> 02:16:37,920
high school, whether it be
football or basketball, really

2738
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:43,240
understands the grind of playing
and being a collegiate athlete.

2739
02:16:43,240 --> 02:16:46,920
Now I don't think like I see all
that stuff on Twitter and I

2740
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:50,320
don't think fans understand what
what what Kevin meant about

2741
02:16:50,320 --> 02:16:53,799
being in love with the game.
Like y'all know who my cousin is

2742
02:16:53,799 --> 02:16:56,840
right?
And he everything came natural

2743
02:16:56,840 --> 02:16:58,000
to him.
But when he fell in love with

2744
02:16:58,000 --> 02:17:01,040
the game, even though he was
lights out in Atlanta, you saw

2745
02:17:01,040 --> 02:17:04,040
what he did in Philly being a
more complete quarterback

2746
02:17:04,040 --> 02:17:08,320
because he began to fall in love
with the game and plus God gave

2747
02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:11,400
him a second chance.
I see a lot of guys I don't

2748
02:17:11,400 --> 02:17:13,600
judge kids jumping the portal
because sometimes it's about

2749
02:17:13,600 --> 02:17:16,160
being close to home.
You got a family member sick or

2750
02:17:16,160 --> 02:17:19,360
you in the position coach don't
vibe or they just got too many

2751
02:17:19,360 --> 02:17:21,480
guys at your position.
I don't have a problem with it,

2752
02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:26,000
but I do think there's something
to be said about what Tally and

2753
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:29,280
Kevin said about like, I sent my
son stuff.

2754
02:17:29,280 --> 02:17:30,600
I said, hey man, you need to
pray.

2755
02:17:30,639 --> 02:17:33,160
Make sure you talk to God.
Thank God for that great game.

2756
02:17:33,480 --> 02:17:37,080
Make sure you stay humble.
I don't mind you talking trash,

2757
02:17:37,080 --> 02:17:40,480
but but stay locked in, you
know, thank this person.

2758
02:17:40,480 --> 02:17:42,440
Go talk to your coach.
Like, be humble.

2759
02:17:42,440 --> 02:17:46,480
But because when I got the text
and this is going to sound

2760
02:17:46,480 --> 02:17:48,559
funny, I joke about it.
But I'm being dead serious.

2761
02:17:49,240 --> 02:17:52,879
I'm from Newport News in
Hampton, VA, so I knew I

2762
02:17:52,879 --> 02:17:54,400
experienced a lot of childhood
trauma.

2763
02:17:54,400 --> 02:17:58,320
So for me it was like, I'm a
graduate tech with some degrees

2764
02:17:58,320 --> 02:18:00,920
and I'm going to leave here with
no charges and no children, all

2765
02:18:01,360 --> 02:18:08,840
right?
But let me say this.

2766
02:18:09,680 --> 02:18:12,000
Let me see, but let me say this
it.

2767
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:15,280
Was I?
It was not easy all the time at

2768
02:18:15,280 --> 02:18:16,680
Tech.
People don't realize this.

2769
02:18:16,959 --> 02:18:20,280
I may sit on your show, Curtis,
but I almost transferred from

2770
02:18:20,280 --> 02:18:22,240
Tech my red sophomore year and
I'm playing.

2771
02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:25,480
I'm in the rotation.
But I felt I should be starting.

2772
02:18:25,480 --> 02:18:26,799
You know why I felt I should be
starting?

2773
02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:31,840
Because I was good.
But the people back home in

2774
02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:35,160
Newport News and Hampton kept
saying, man dawg, man, you

2775
02:18:35,160 --> 02:18:37,320
should be starting, bro, they
tripping.

2776
02:18:37,799 --> 02:18:40,480
And I almost, my dumb ass,
almost transferred to Hampton

2777
02:18:40,480 --> 02:18:43,600
University because everybody was
doing it.

2778
02:18:43,600 --> 02:18:46,360
Now here's the point to Tally
1996.

2779
02:18:46,360 --> 02:18:50,639
This is tally.
And Kevin's point, I call home.

2780
02:18:51,200 --> 02:18:53,480
My dad's a pastor 50 something
years.

2781
02:18:53,480 --> 02:18:57,520
Been preaching.
He says to me, he said, the hell

2782
02:18:57,520 --> 02:18:59,200
are you talking about?
You coming back home to go to

2783
02:18:59,200 --> 02:19:00,240
Hampton.
You had Tech.

2784
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:03,080
You, you're lettering.
You're playing against Rutgers

2785
02:19:03,080 --> 02:19:06,520
and Boston College and Syracuse.
You're playing, you going, you

2786
02:19:06,520 --> 02:19:08,520
got two years left.
What do you, why you want to

2787
02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:11,559
come home?
And again, that's the part about

2788
02:19:11,559 --> 02:19:13,680
having if it's not a dad or
father figure.

2789
02:19:14,000 --> 02:19:17,840
And I think sometimes these kids
miss out because I'm telling you

2790
02:19:17,840 --> 02:19:20,320
right now, that's why I love
Signing Day.

2791
02:19:20,320 --> 02:19:23,400
But some of these kids are going
to get here at Tech or Maryland

2792
02:19:23,400 --> 02:19:26,799
or Norfolk State or Boston
College or Syracuse, whatever,

2793
02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:31,160
and they're like, damn, I got to
get up at what time I got up at

2794
02:19:31,440 --> 02:19:35,000
what time I got.
And I don't think people

2795
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:37,200
understand like, it is a
business.

2796
02:19:37,200 --> 02:19:38,600
It's a business in high school
now.

2797
02:19:40,559 --> 02:19:42,080
So I just.
Put my texts.

2798
02:19:42,080 --> 02:19:43,480
On that man you know and and
and.

2799
02:19:45,480 --> 02:19:48,400
And like you, man.
Y'all y'all have killed it.

2800
02:19:48,640 --> 02:19:51,360
I can't add nothing to it, man.
I I just wanted to tell y'all

2801
02:19:52,120 --> 02:19:54,920
through this whole process, you
know the guys I've reached out,

2802
02:19:54,920 --> 02:19:57,480
I've talked to, you know, I
don't, I don't reach out to you

2803
02:19:57,560 --> 02:20:00,520
like telling me and you just
connected and and stuff, man.

2804
02:20:00,520 --> 02:20:04,240
I just appreciate y'all man
because I know through this

2805
02:20:04,240 --> 02:20:07,960
whole process, you know, I've
been able to kind of reach out

2806
02:20:07,960 --> 02:20:11,200
to guys and say hey, I know I'm
doing the right thing.

2807
02:20:11,560 --> 02:20:16,280
You know it it was just like
like 3-4 months was like 3

2808
02:20:16,280 --> 02:20:19,560
months ago.
Me, me, me and Keelan was

2809
02:20:19,560 --> 02:20:21,000
sitting here.
I was like, hey man, you know,

2810
02:20:21,200 --> 02:20:23,720
I've been watching you, man.
And like, you're really, really

2811
02:20:23,720 --> 02:20:26,120
good.
And that dude jumped up off the

2812
02:20:26,120 --> 02:20:29,160
couch, man, and hugged me and
said bring it in, big fella,

2813
02:20:29,240 --> 02:20:31,600
bring it in, he said.
I've been working my ass off

2814
02:20:31,920 --> 02:20:35,280
just to hear you say that.
And it kind of threw me because.

2815
02:20:35,320 --> 02:20:35,880
I.
Was like.

2816
02:20:36,480 --> 02:20:39,640
I was like you out here busting
everybody ass out here.

2817
02:20:39,640 --> 02:20:42,520
I I think, he said.
It don't matter what they think.

2818
02:20:43,360 --> 02:20:48,040
It matter what you think.
So I know Jim.

2819
02:20:48,040 --> 02:20:51,160
He just left off here because
you know, and probably the baby

2820
02:20:51,160 --> 02:20:53,680
walk open needed some milk and
his wife was probably about to

2821
02:20:53,680 --> 02:20:57,920
be exactly.
He got a.

2822
02:20:57,920 --> 02:21:00,000
Less than A1.
Year old, he he is grinding

2823
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:01,120
every day, man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2824
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:03,440
Man, I'm going to be honest with
you, man.

2825
02:21:03,800 --> 02:21:06,560
I'm.
I'm a father of five and I say

2826
02:21:06,560 --> 02:21:09,360
this to every, every guy.
If you got parents, you got

2827
02:21:09,360 --> 02:21:11,400
children.
You having Adam enjoy the ride

2828
02:21:11,760 --> 02:21:15,520
because this thing's afflicted.
This thing is absolute every

2829
02:21:15,520 --> 02:21:17,880
day, man.
I am reminded of that, like I

2830
02:21:17,880 --> 02:21:20,680
got a 10 year old and every day
I'm like, how the hell do I have

2831
02:21:20,680 --> 02:21:23,600
a 10 year old this?
Thing is a flicker my.

2832
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:26,280
My daughter, my daughter,
graduated from, from, from,

2833
02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:28,080
yeah, from Community College the
other night.

2834
02:21:28,080 --> 02:21:30,960
And I was like, God Dang, man, I
remember I was, you know, when

2835
02:21:30,960 --> 02:21:35,160
when she had that first, you
know, milk, milk, hind and pass

2836
02:21:35,160 --> 02:21:37,120
out on me, you know what I'm
saying as a baby, man.

2837
02:21:37,120 --> 02:21:40,720
And and it is, you know, this
thing is a flicker bed and I'm

2838
02:21:40,720 --> 02:21:42,880
about to drop this kid off in
two weeks, man.

2839
02:21:42,880 --> 02:21:44,640
And I'm, you know, my wife's
like, don't cry.

2840
02:21:44,680 --> 02:21:46,840
I say I'm trying not to, but I'm
going to end up crying.

2841
02:21:46,840 --> 02:21:48,360
It's going to happen.
It's going to happen.

2842
02:21:49,960 --> 02:21:51,840
It happens.
More than nobody.

2843
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:53,960
Nobody on this show is going to
judge you.

2844
02:21:53,960 --> 02:21:56,080
For that, because you guys don't
have that.

2845
02:21:56,080 --> 02:21:58,440
Hey, listen, y'all.
Just go and get ready.

2846
02:21:58,480 --> 02:21:59,960
I'm crying.
Don't even get it out.

2847
02:21:59,960 --> 02:22:01,640
Absolutely the.
Guy's on I'm.

2848
02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:03,920
Going to cry.
I have on this show.

2849
02:22:03,920 --> 02:22:07,080
I got three kids, Tally got two,
Siegler got one over there.

2850
02:22:07,440 --> 02:22:09,600
We will ever judge you for
anything like that.

2851
02:22:09,880 --> 02:22:12,440
And it's it's one of those
things, man, you can joke me on

2852
02:22:12,480 --> 02:22:14,040
the side.
Though oh, I'll joke, I mean.

2853
02:22:14,200 --> 02:22:15,520
We'll plan on you, but we'll
still do it too.

2854
02:22:15,560 --> 02:22:18,680
Don't worry, we'll find you
Elaine's.

2855
02:22:18,760 --> 02:22:19,880
Hey.
If I'm, If I'm.

2856
02:22:19,880 --> 02:22:21,400
Being honest, here's a great
car.

2857
02:22:21,400 --> 02:22:24,480
Go ahead.
Hey, Brian.

2858
02:22:24,480 --> 02:22:27,280
Put.
Up put up the the, the quote

2859
02:22:27,280 --> 02:22:31,760
that I think Coach Lewis put up.
I want you to do you see?

2860
02:22:31,760 --> 02:22:34,480
What do you see?
It says don't listen to the

2861
02:22:34,480 --> 02:22:37,000
coach shaking my head.
Yeah, put that up because I'm

2862
02:22:37,000 --> 02:22:38,800
going to go on a rant for a
minute, then I'm on.

2863
02:22:39,120 --> 02:22:40,600
I'm going to ask Pete a
question.

2864
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:43,360
OK.
So when I was talking about my

2865
02:22:43,360 --> 02:22:48,560
son, you have to understand when
I say my son, that's my son,

2866
02:22:49,280 --> 02:22:51,240
that's my son.
I feed him.

2867
02:22:51,680 --> 02:22:53,920
I know what he can do.
I know what he can't do.

2868
02:22:54,360 --> 02:22:57,280
Some of these coaches that are
in middle, We're not talking,

2869
02:22:57,560 --> 02:23:00,600
we're not talking about college.
Yeah, we're not talking about

2870
02:23:00,600 --> 02:23:04,120
college.
We're not talking about coaches

2871
02:23:04,120 --> 02:23:06,880
that are are raising men.
We're talking about a social

2872
02:23:06,880 --> 02:23:10,840
science teacher that is getting
paid an extra couple of dollars

2873
02:23:11,080 --> 02:23:12,880
to coach a basketball team after
school.

2874
02:23:13,800 --> 02:23:15,600
And if you're coaching in
Virginia?

2875
02:23:15,640 --> 02:23:17,760
You know what I'm talking about
because you're getting maybe

2876
02:23:18,120 --> 02:23:20,920
1500 stipend to to coach that
sport.

2877
02:23:21,000 --> 02:23:22,480
Come on, man, if.
That yeah.

2878
02:23:22,480 --> 02:23:26,760
When you say, when you say don't
tell, don't tell your son not to

2879
02:23:26,760 --> 02:23:29,600
listen to the coach.
I don't tell him not to listen

2880
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:33,520
to his coaches in that setting
in that game that we're talking

2881
02:23:33,520 --> 02:23:36,600
about.
Yes, I told my son don't listen

2882
02:23:36,600 --> 02:23:40,040
to him when he tells you y'all
need to hold a ball and only

2883
02:23:40,600 --> 02:23:42,560
there's no shot clock.
We just going to hold the ball

2884
02:23:42,560 --> 02:23:45,360
and try to beat them when you
already down 20 points?

2885
02:23:45,360 --> 02:23:48,440
No Sir, son, when you get the
ball you go score.

2886
02:23:48,640 --> 02:23:50,480
Don't listen to him because he
don't know what he's talking

2887
02:23:50,480 --> 02:23:52,680
about right now.
So yes, I did tell him that.

2888
02:23:52,840 --> 02:23:55,720
But we going to switch gears a
little bit and I want to ask a

2889
02:23:55,720 --> 02:23:57,520
question.
We'll start with Pete right

2890
02:23:57,520 --> 02:23:59,280
here.
We'll start with Pete.

2891
02:23:59,720 --> 02:24:01,640
Well, I'll start with myself
then I'm going to throw it to

2892
02:24:01,640 --> 02:24:04,520
peak because we are talking
straight of the program.

2893
02:24:06,400 --> 02:24:10,800
What's one of the plays from
this year, either good or bad,

2894
02:24:10,800 --> 02:24:16,560
that kind of gave you, you know,
either a great feeling or a bad

2895
02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:18,120
feeling about where our team was
going?

2896
02:24:18,120 --> 02:24:21,120
And I'll tell you mine the play
that I.

2897
02:24:22,360 --> 02:24:24,720
Kind of looked at this.
Year and kind of summed up how I

2898
02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:27,800
feel about this team and I said
all right we we we in the right

2899
02:24:27,800 --> 02:24:29,840
direction.
Are we playing Pitt?

2900
02:24:29,960 --> 02:24:32,840
And Kyron hits that first
touchdown pass, I think the

2901
02:24:32,840 --> 02:24:36,440
Felton and he starts walking
down the field.

2902
02:24:37,000 --> 02:24:40,720
And from what we've heard from
what we've heard of Kyron, he he

2903
02:24:40,720 --> 02:24:43,160
don't celebrate much.
He don't talk a lot of trash.

2904
02:24:43,760 --> 02:24:46,200
He was talking shit to every pit
player.

2905
02:24:48,360 --> 02:24:50,560
That.
He had, and I know he was.

2906
02:24:50,920 --> 02:24:53,960
I know he was telling them, keep
your fucking eyes out of that

2907
02:24:53,960 --> 02:24:56,200
backfield because you got to
worry about this arm too.

2908
02:24:56,480 --> 02:24:58,720
I know that's what he's saying
on the way down that field.

2909
02:24:59,320 --> 02:25:05,080
That was if I had to sum up this
year one play, it would be that

2910
02:25:05,080 --> 02:25:08,000
play and not just the play
because it's a great play, but

2911
02:25:08,040 --> 02:25:11,040
afterwards, like I said, he hit
the bow and arrow, then he's

2912
02:25:11,040 --> 02:25:13,800
going down the field and he's
talking shit and and and what's

2913
02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:17,320
crazy to me is I'm thinking, but
he got to play against them the

2914
02:25:17,320 --> 02:25:18,800
whole game.
This is at the beginning of the

2915
02:25:18,800 --> 02:25:20,400
game, he.
Got to play.

2916
02:25:20,480 --> 02:25:22,840
Against the lineman at the
beginning of the game and he

2917
02:25:22,840 --> 02:25:25,320
talking shit all the way.
Give me what you got.

2918
02:25:25,440 --> 02:25:29,720
Give me what you got, I'm.
Looking at his body language and

2919
02:25:29,720 --> 02:25:32,000
I said I know he looking at that
lineman and then looking at

2920
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:34,720
them, them cornerbacks and
telling them you better keep

2921
02:25:34,720 --> 02:25:37,320
your fucking eyes out of that
backfield because hey, we going

2922
02:25:37,320 --> 02:25:40,200
to add this bitch out on y'all.
So that was my play from this

2923
02:25:40,200 --> 02:25:44,040
year that I had had to bring up.
Pete, what you got for me?

2924
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:47,520
If you remember the.
Beginning of the Syracuse game,

2925
02:25:47,600 --> 02:25:52,120
there was for one, we were after
them all game on defense.

2926
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:55,760
And there was a play where APR
kind of did a spin move, got to

2927
02:25:55,760 --> 02:25:57,720
the quarterback.
I think it was the first play of

2928
02:25:57,720 --> 02:25:59,080
the game.
It was the 2nd.

2929
02:25:59,160 --> 02:26:00,760
Play.
It was the 2nd play of the game.

2930
02:26:00,920 --> 02:26:04,280
Second play of the game.
And that play, I don't think he

2931
02:26:04,280 --> 02:26:06,720
got credit for the sack he might
have on an intentional

2932
02:26:06,720 --> 02:26:10,200
grounding, but it was it was a
tone center and I remember

2933
02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:13,120
thinking like the defense has
been struggling this year, even

2934
02:26:13,120 --> 02:26:15,400
against Pitt.
How well we played and had the

2935
02:26:15,560 --> 02:26:18,840
the play you were just talking
about Offensively, we were good.

2936
02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:20,880
We gave up some plays in that
pick game.

2937
02:26:21,000 --> 02:26:23,000
The Syracuse game was pure
domination.

2938
02:26:23,440 --> 02:26:27,400
And that play just right off the
bat to set that tone with that

2939
02:26:27,400 --> 02:26:30,880
spin mode, spin move, I was
like, I was blown away.

2940
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:33,800
I was there and I saw it from
where I was sitting and I was

2941
02:26:33,800 --> 02:26:35,920
like, oh, this could be a
different kind of night and it

2942
02:26:35,920 --> 02:26:37,440
ended up being a different kind
of night.

2943
02:26:37,560 --> 02:26:38,960
So that's the play I think back
to.

2944
02:26:39,280 --> 02:26:41,600
That's why Brian.
Decided to buy in poker that

2945
02:26:41,600 --> 02:26:43,880
night in the basement.
He wound up that night it.

2946
02:26:45,800 --> 02:26:46,800
Really.
Was it?

2947
02:26:46,800 --> 02:26:49,080
Was one of those nights like,
all right, I I will see how this

2948
02:26:49,080 --> 02:26:50,760
plays out.
I'm not sure if I will play

2949
02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:54,160
tonight and then that happened.
I'm like, all right, I'm in

2950
02:26:54,400 --> 02:26:55,480
deal.
Me in, bitches.

2951
02:26:55,560 --> 02:26:57,200
Let's go.
All right.

2952
02:26:57,560 --> 02:27:00,520
We're going to go to band, man.
What play you got?

2953
02:27:01,000 --> 02:27:03,120
What's your play for the?
Year that just set it off, I'm

2954
02:27:03,880 --> 02:27:07,520
going to give you.
A2 Parter The part that I knew

2955
02:27:07,520 --> 02:27:11,280
it was going to be different was
the last drive of the Purdue

2956
02:27:11,280 --> 02:27:13,880
game.
Even though we lost, Kyron came

2957
02:27:13,880 --> 02:27:16,400
in.
You knew he had the vision, he's

2958
02:27:16,400 --> 02:27:19,320
making plays.
It was very clear quarterback

2959
02:27:19,320 --> 02:27:27,000
one was #1 Kyron Jones the then
Fast forward UVA game.

2960
02:27:28,000 --> 02:27:31,000
Anthony Calandra talking all
that shit during the week.

2961
02:27:31,200 --> 02:27:34,400
Remember 2019 bowl game.
Lynn Bowden junior talked all

2962
02:27:34,400 --> 02:27:36,720
that shit.
Took our lunch money, Took our

2963
02:27:36,760 --> 02:27:40,520
lunch money come UVA game.
Anthony Calandra talking about

2964
02:27:40,520 --> 02:27:42,000
all they going to be talking
about this.

2965
02:27:42,160 --> 02:27:44,640
Well yeah, they were talking
about this, buddy. 55 Reasons

2966
02:27:44,640 --> 02:27:47,800
Why You should Shut the fuck up.
Like, you know, Like, you know.

2967
02:27:47,880 --> 02:27:49,240
Like they?
Took that personally.

2968
02:27:49,280 --> 02:27:53,480
APRAPR was getting personal
fouls like Kyron, Drones was

2969
02:27:53,480 --> 02:27:58,440
running it up like special
tootin train was full steam

2970
02:27:58,440 --> 02:28:00,760
ahead.
Like we took that personally and

2971
02:28:00,760 --> 02:28:02,600
we said Nah, we're Virginia
Tech, you're not going to talk

2972
02:28:02,600 --> 02:28:04,760
about us like that.
And that's when I knew Virginia

2973
02:28:04,760 --> 02:28:07,080
Tech was back.
Or on the way to be back all.

2974
02:28:09,760 --> 02:28:11,880
Right, Robbie, what you got?
Robbie Rowdy Rowdy What?

2975
02:28:11,880 --> 02:28:14,160
You got?
This year, I don't know if I

2976
02:28:14,160 --> 02:28:14,960
have.
Virginia Tech.

2977
02:28:15,840 --> 02:28:16,600
I don't know if I'd go.
To.

2978
02:28:16,600 --> 02:28:23,080
One play more than I remember, a
particular kick return where

2979
02:28:23,080 --> 02:28:25,600
they take back and score and
then.

2980
02:28:25,600 --> 02:28:27,440
Afterwards.
They're talking to the young man

2981
02:28:27,440 --> 02:28:31,080
about, you know, about how he
did something so amazing and

2982
02:28:31,200 --> 02:28:39,520
returning that.
Oh no, we lost.

2983
02:28:40,720 --> 02:28:42,720
Oh.
Even bus football, man.

2984
02:28:42,720 --> 02:28:50,480
Don't even bus.
Is he?

2985
02:28:50,680 --> 02:28:52,240
Oh man, come on.
Man, there you.

2986
02:28:53,040 --> 02:28:54,160
Go the minute.
That young.

2987
02:28:54,160 --> 02:28:57,280
Man, the minute that young man
turns around and says OK, there

2988
02:28:57,520 --> 02:28:59,240
you go.
There was 10 other.

2989
02:28:59,240 --> 02:29:01,160
People on that field that made
that thing work.

2990
02:29:01,800 --> 02:29:03,480
That was when I knew it was
different.

2991
02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:07,360
That was that play that I knew.
I didn't know it immediately,

2992
02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:10,000
but you find out afterwards,
that's where you know

2993
02:29:10,000 --> 02:29:12,120
everything's going, right?
That's where things have

2994
02:29:12,120 --> 02:29:19,040
changed.
There we go.

2995
02:29:19,040 --> 02:29:20,880
Eleven guys.
Playing for, playing for

2996
02:29:20,880 --> 02:29:22,560
something else.
That's what it's all about,

2997
02:29:23,520 --> 02:29:24,880
Dwight.
This year, man.

2998
02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:27,440
Playing.
Play that.

2999
02:29:27,440 --> 02:29:29,840
Said.
I mean, we went six and six.

3000
02:29:29,840 --> 02:29:30,840
It ain't great.
Nah.

3001
02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:32,440
But where?
We were.

3002
02:29:32,440 --> 02:29:35,360
And where we built back up to
and where we are in recruiting,

3003
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:38,680
it's trajectory right I, I've
and three.

3004
02:29:38,680 --> 02:29:39,400
Last.
Eight Game, I say.

3005
02:29:39,400 --> 02:29:41,480
The Colts.
That's right, five.

3006
02:29:41,640 --> 02:29:43,840
And three last eight.
That's right, last 8.

3007
02:29:43,840 --> 02:29:45,960
Game.
I think for me, I've been saying

3008
02:29:45,960 --> 02:29:49,880
this for years, Virginia Tech
and most college football, it's

3009
02:29:49,880 --> 02:29:52,320
it's a combination of things.
And the first thing I would say

3010
02:29:52,320 --> 02:29:56,000
when drones became the starter,
I felt like early on, and I

3011
02:29:56,000 --> 02:29:58,520
understand why Pride was doing
it, because there's seasons when

3012
02:29:58,520 --> 02:30:02,280
you sometimes need your backup
quarterback or even games where

3013
02:30:02,280 --> 02:30:06,080
somebody's helmet comes off
cramping, whatever or, you know

3014
02:30:06,080 --> 02:30:09,760
a shoulder injury or something.
So I wasn't like like dismissed

3015
02:30:09,760 --> 02:30:12,320
Wells.
But when I I kept saying and Don

3016
02:30:12,320 --> 02:30:17,120
V and Tally's Twitter space is
that when pride names Drones are

3017
02:30:17,120 --> 02:30:21,680
starter and it becomes his team.
Watch how he takes off and I.

3018
02:30:21,680 --> 02:30:24,160
Feel.
Like if you look at UVA and

3019
02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:28,400
other programs in the ACC, when
you look at how long UVA has

3020
02:30:28,440 --> 02:30:32,040
really been trying to rebuild
and get back to the Marcus

3021
02:30:32,040 --> 02:30:35,600
Hagen's or Aaron Brooks days,
you think about those two names

3022
02:30:35,600 --> 02:30:38,200
I just named, right?
That's how long I would even

3023
02:30:38,200 --> 02:30:41,040
throw and grow.
The one thing I told my boy Mon

3024
02:30:41,040 --> 02:30:44,080
hawk and some of my UVA guys is
y'all have not really had a

3025
02:30:44,080 --> 02:30:49,040
quarterback to build around.
And after we lost Gerard Evans,

3026
02:30:49,560 --> 02:30:52,320
I kept saying, yeah, we got nice
quarterbacks, we need a

3027
02:30:52,320 --> 02:30:54,800
quarterback and finally we have
drones.

3028
02:30:54,800 --> 02:30:57,480
Who my cousin and I think he is
special.

3029
02:30:57,600 --> 02:31:01,000
I've told him that I've special.
Now here's the other thing I

3030
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:07,880
noticed to to Tally's question.
The culture and the mindset at

3031
02:31:07,880 --> 02:31:10,920
home is very reminiscent of what
tech used to be.

3032
02:31:11,440 --> 02:31:15,760
No more did you see at home
where we were winning 20 to 17

3033
02:31:15,760 --> 02:31:17,960
and then we get a late field
going, We hold on with a

3034
02:31:17,960 --> 02:31:21,080
defensive stand.
Pride was running it up on

3035
02:31:21,080 --> 02:31:23,560
people.
They were throwing the ball 20

3036
02:31:23,560 --> 02:31:27,880
when they were up 2128 points.
They were doing onside kicks,

3037
02:31:27,880 --> 02:31:32,040
fake punts, trick plays.
And I felt like there was a

3038
02:31:32,040 --> 02:31:35,520
culture and a mindset, you know,
that showed that OK, they're

3039
02:31:35,520 --> 02:31:36,520
really trying to build
something.

3040
02:31:36,520 --> 02:31:41,160
And then finally, the last point
I think to tell this thing is

3041
02:31:41,640 --> 02:31:45,640
the fact that yeah, kids are
leaving, but those kids should

3042
02:31:45,640 --> 02:31:48,840
be leaving.
The kids all coming back.

3043
02:31:48,840 --> 02:31:52,400
The coach is starting to take
shape where like Clemson, I said

3044
02:31:52,400 --> 02:31:55,760
this on my part this week.
Like Clemson, when they ran the

3045
02:31:55,760 --> 02:31:59,520
ACC for years, Dabble was a
master at keeping some of his

3046
02:31:59,520 --> 02:32:02,720
future pros and even kids.
That could have left the

3047
02:32:02,720 --> 02:32:05,920
graduation to come back for one
or two more years where you saw

3048
02:32:06,760 --> 02:32:07,760
Tuten.
Tuten.

3049
02:32:07,760 --> 02:32:10,920
And everybody and and Ali and
all those guys are coming back.

3050
02:32:11,320 --> 02:32:14,800
So now you starting to see guys
that want to be in Blacksburg,

3051
02:32:15,080 --> 02:32:17,720
which means they're having fun
and they feel like there's

3052
02:32:17,720 --> 02:32:19,440
something that they can run it
back with.

3053
02:32:19,440 --> 02:32:22,640
So the coaches there, the
quarterbacks there again.

3054
02:32:22,880 --> 02:32:24,320
I said this when I did the
broadcast.

3055
02:32:24,320 --> 02:32:28,240
I did the ESPN3 broadcast in
2013 and we have Motley at

3056
02:32:28,240 --> 02:32:33,600
quarterback and we had the white
kid Mark.

3057
02:32:33,600 --> 02:32:34,960
Now what's his name?
The 1.

3058
02:32:35,040 --> 02:32:37,320
Grant, not Grant.
The other one, Michael Brewer.

3059
02:32:37,440 --> 02:32:42,000
Michael Brewer and I thought
Brewer was good but I felt like

3060
02:32:42,000 --> 02:32:43,440
we needed a dual threat
quarterback.

3061
02:32:43,440 --> 02:32:45,880
I just feel like, other than
drunken Miller, Will Ferrell.

3062
02:32:46,520 --> 02:32:47,840
And we we.
Do better with.

3063
02:32:48,120 --> 02:32:49,640
With dual threats we do better
with dual.

3064
02:32:49,680 --> 02:32:52,240
Look at the history of Virginia
Tech if you want to do.

3065
02:32:52,240 --> 02:32:55,280
If you want to do the history
historically, Virginia Tech will

3066
02:32:55,280 --> 02:32:58,440
hit the game with dual threat
quarterbacks 93.

3067
02:32:58,600 --> 02:32:59,920
Yeah, Maurice.
De Chazo.

3068
02:32:59,920 --> 02:33:02,720
Chazo.
Alcar, Maurice and Marcus

3069
02:33:02,720 --> 02:33:12,320
Marisa, Yeah, the one thing that
got me on the recruiting visit.

3070
02:33:13,400 --> 02:33:15,320
And.
You know, I'm not saying it

3071
02:33:15,320 --> 02:33:20,520
because you know for Ray stuff,
but no, I don't know another

3072
02:33:20,520 --> 02:33:22,720
school that when you.
Go in the.

3073
02:33:22,720 --> 02:33:24,720
Quarterback room.
That's got 3 black quarterbacks

3074
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:27,280
on the wall, man.
Don't, don't.

3075
02:33:28,160 --> 02:33:33,200
When I walked in, I was like.
They got Vic, Randall and Taylor

3076
02:33:33,240 --> 02:33:40,080
and.
You know.

3077
02:33:41,360 --> 02:33:43,840
Me and Me and B Ray.
Got a close connection so you

3078
02:33:43,840 --> 02:33:47,640
know ran yeah yeah and I'm
telling let me I'm gonna put the

3079
02:33:47,640 --> 02:33:48,880
other child I'm gonna bring it
in.

3080
02:33:48,880 --> 02:33:51,320
I'm gonna got to wrangle all
y'all in cause y'all 'cause.

3081
02:33:51,680 --> 02:33:53,360
Chris, Kevin, Y'all hold on
between.

3082
02:33:53,360 --> 02:33:55,240
I'm gonna tell you between that
and.

3083
02:33:55,880 --> 02:34:02,200
Beamer sending us a video.
And.

3084
02:34:04,240 --> 02:34:07,880
Their.
Goal.

3085
02:34:10,880 --> 02:34:13,480
On our visit.
We're on at 5:00 AM and we're

3086
02:34:13,480 --> 02:34:16,400
going and it's funny, 'cause I
know y'all probably don't know

3087
02:34:16,400 --> 02:34:17,880
the inside joke.
I don't know.

3088
02:34:17,880 --> 02:34:21,280
We get a deer going to Roanoke.
Oh, job, yeah.

3089
02:34:21,400 --> 02:34:23,440
That don't surprise me.
But that don't surprise me.

3090
02:34:24,040 --> 02:34:27,240
Yeah, so we get a.
Deer on the exit but.

3091
02:34:27,520 --> 02:34:29,840
When?
They got in the car, They're

3092
02:34:29,840 --> 02:34:33,760
like, hey, you got a video.
What Y'all have seen and Frank

3093
02:34:33,760 --> 02:34:36,680
Beamer sent a video and my
wife's like, who is that?

3094
02:34:36,680 --> 02:34:38,640
I was like, because I'm from
Texas.

3095
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:40,880
You're like, hey, it's like RC
Slocum.

3096
02:34:41,840 --> 02:34:45,440
It's like that's like, you know
Bobby Bowden, that's up there

3097
02:34:45,560 --> 02:34:46,640
for you.
That's huge.

3098
02:34:46,760 --> 02:34:50,520
Yeah, he he sent a video, you
know, and and Dwight and Dwight.

3099
02:34:50,520 --> 02:34:53,200
Could wax some poetic about what
was what was what, what happened

3100
02:34:53,200 --> 02:34:55,640
right there.
So we'll we'll let Blake ride

3101
02:34:55,640 --> 02:34:57,680
after you finish.
Hey, that video.

3102
02:34:57,680 --> 02:35:01,560
I'm telling between that and and
it was just the the welcoming

3103
02:35:02,480 --> 02:35:08,560
that you know and and we we hit
it off with Ali's mom and you

3104
02:35:08,560 --> 02:35:13,560
know just everybody like Felton,
like I I sit in the stands and I

3105
02:35:13,560 --> 02:35:18,880
got an NFHS account just to
watch Jalen Lane's dad on his

3106
02:35:18,880 --> 02:35:20,840
playoff run to win the state
championship.

3107
02:35:21,880 --> 02:35:23,840
You know.
And I'm texting him and then we

3108
02:35:23,840 --> 02:35:26,080
meet him and Hatterby's.
Family, you know?

3109
02:35:26,080 --> 02:35:28,400
I'm sitting in.
Front of Felton's dad I can tell

3110
02:35:28,440 --> 02:35:31,400
you this students dad about
knocked me over.

3111
02:35:31,400 --> 02:35:35,240
We end up hitting the kid at
Boston College that was sitting

3112
02:35:35,240 --> 02:35:35,840
in.
Front of.

3113
02:35:35,840 --> 02:35:42,480
Us standing in front of us is me
and and T Rex and she, he bumps

3114
02:35:42,480 --> 02:35:48,160
me like look at it and I go like
3 trying to catch myself and it

3115
02:35:48,160 --> 02:35:50,240
was crazy.
But I mean that's just the it's

3116
02:35:50,240 --> 02:35:54,200
the fan like you know going to
those games and it's just where

3117
02:35:54,200 --> 02:35:59,160
the program is right now and I
and I hadn't been around for 20

3118
02:35:59,160 --> 02:36:02,720
plus years.
But you know, it's it's it's

3119
02:36:03,120 --> 02:36:07,080
different from where we were at
Baylor and it's just it's it's

3120
02:36:07,400 --> 02:36:11,360
even though it's hard for me,
it's hard for our family because

3121
02:36:11,720 --> 02:36:14,440
you know, I I play on Friday
night, we want to win everybody.

3122
02:36:14,760 --> 02:36:16,640
Wants to win.
Everybody wants to win every

3123
02:36:16,680 --> 02:36:20,000
damn week.
I get home at 12:00.

3124
02:36:20,400 --> 02:36:22,040
I'm at the airport at 3:30 in
the morning.

3125
02:36:23,200 --> 02:36:25,320
And I'm planning to.
Charlie and got to drive 2 1/2

3126
02:36:25,320 --> 02:36:27,240
hours to Blacksburg.
Hard for you, man.

3127
02:36:27,960 --> 02:36:30,280
Hard for you?
You know, But it makes it work.

3128
02:36:30,280 --> 02:36:32,280
Then I'm on the first thing
smoking Sunday out of there,

3129
02:36:32,280 --> 02:36:34,920
'cause I gotta get back Sunday.
I love that.

3130
02:36:35,320 --> 02:36:36,840
I love that man.
All right.

3131
02:36:37,080 --> 02:36:39,400
I I love the dedication from
you, from y'all.

3132
02:36:39,400 --> 02:36:40,880
I mean that.
That's what I have so much

3133
02:36:40,880 --> 02:36:43,080
respect for Chris and Kevin
both.

3134
02:36:43,080 --> 02:36:46,400
I mean what y'all bring to the
table from us just from being a

3135
02:36:46,400 --> 02:36:47,840
dad?
Like that.

3136
02:36:47,840 --> 02:36:49,480
Matters.
And.

3137
02:36:49,600 --> 02:36:50,320
I.
Appreciate that.

3138
02:36:50,960 --> 02:36:52,200
And just from being.
A friend.

3139
02:36:52,680 --> 02:36:54,360
Yeah, all.
Right caller.

3140
02:36:54,600 --> 02:36:57,640
Caller this year.
What was that moment?

3141
02:36:59,800 --> 02:37:02,120
I started it off.
You've been drinking too much.

3142
02:37:04,200 --> 02:37:05,920
Had a had?
A Curtis.

3143
02:37:05,920 --> 02:37:06,440
Damn.
Curtis.

3144
02:37:07,200 --> 02:37:08,280
Curtis.
It's my turn.

3145
02:37:08,320 --> 02:37:14,040
All right, you talk, man.
Go ahead.

3146
02:37:14,040 --> 02:37:16,040
Run your mouth.
By the way, that's how much.

3147
02:37:16,360 --> 02:37:18,120
There you go.
Granddaddy baby.

3148
02:37:19,240 --> 02:37:20,680
You getting?
It in to the side.

3149
02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:24,400
And everything I I said.
It Hey, we got Donnie, man.

3150
02:37:24,400 --> 02:37:26,320
We got Donnie in here, man.
Oh yeah, no, I.

3151
02:37:26,560 --> 02:37:28,840
Know the White's in here.
All right, this is what I'll

3152
02:37:28,840 --> 02:37:31,160
say.
It's either the drive or the

3153
02:37:31,400 --> 02:37:34,880
plate.
After the fumble return, Kyron

3154
02:37:34,880 --> 02:37:37,320
unfortunately gets popped.
He he loses the ball.

3155
02:37:37,320 --> 02:37:42,280
It goes back instead of
withering, instead of faltering,

3156
02:37:42,440 --> 02:37:48,000
instead of running the ball and
being safe and all that bullshit

3157
02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:54,520
53 yard touchdown pass Kyron to
Jalen at the pit game extends

3158
02:37:54,520 --> 02:37:58,120
the lead back to 14.
Them motherfuckers ain't coming.

3159
02:37:58,120 --> 02:37:59,520
I love drunk Curtis, man.
You ain't.

3160
02:38:01,760 --> 02:38:04,560
Drunk enough right now.
I am no.

3161
02:38:04,960 --> 02:38:07,520
Because that play, Curtis Curtis
said.

3162
02:38:07,520 --> 02:38:11,480
I didn't drink enough evidence.
Ziegler tally that play

3163
02:38:11,480 --> 02:38:12,920
happened.
We fumble the ball.

3164
02:38:13,600 --> 02:38:16,600
What are y'all texting me?
Ah, fuck, we thought it was.

3165
02:38:16,600 --> 02:38:18,800
Coming down, we thought it was
we did we all?

3166
02:38:19,240 --> 02:38:20,320
Thought Pete.
Pete, you're right.

3167
02:38:20,880 --> 02:38:22,040
You're right.
We thought.

3168
02:38:22,040 --> 02:38:23,600
We thought, Oh my God, it's
gonna happen.

3169
02:38:23,680 --> 02:38:27,440
We're like, all right, so we're
so used to like being

3170
02:38:27,440 --> 02:38:31,120
conditioned to like the bad
turning into the worst, right.

3171
02:38:31,440 --> 02:38:32,920
We're we're so conditioned to
that it.

3172
02:38:33,520 --> 02:38:34,880
Didn't.
We was losing Lane I.

3173
02:38:35,800 --> 02:38:37,640
Couldn't.
Text anybody.

3174
02:38:37,840 --> 02:38:39,200
It came.
It came old school.

3175
02:38:39,920 --> 02:38:42,600
It came old school at Tech when
something bad happened.

3176
02:38:43,560 --> 02:38:47,560
Something better happened.
Kyron went into that situation

3177
02:38:47,560 --> 02:38:51,200
with Jay Lane, went into it. 53
yard touchdown pass.

3178
02:38:51,360 --> 02:38:54,160
We on a 14.
Nor do you know what the fuck to

3179
02:38:54,160 --> 02:38:57,000
do.
He didn't because he knew his

3180
02:38:57,040 --> 02:39:00,880
offense couldn't score.
Yeah, they got, they got a.

3181
02:39:00,920 --> 02:39:03,520
Lucky shot on that play before
Arduchi's a clown.

3182
02:39:03,520 --> 02:39:06,920
Dick, Yeah.
All right, all.

3183
02:39:06,960 --> 02:39:08,080
Right.
All right, hold on.

3184
02:39:08,080 --> 02:39:10,280
We we got to get tuned because
we have not.

3185
02:39:10,280 --> 02:39:11,600
Are we going to talk shit about
Dardisi?

3186
02:39:11,600 --> 02:39:12,920
We're going to have like a 30
minute.

3187
02:39:13,080 --> 02:39:15,960
Yeah, because Chris should be
here or whatever And be quiet.

3188
02:39:16,000 --> 02:39:16,720
Hold on.
Hold on.

3189
02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:17,000
Hold.
On.

3190
02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:18,280
Hold on, hold on.
Take my moment.

3191
02:39:18,320 --> 02:39:19,560
We have.
Take my moment.

3192
02:39:19,720 --> 02:39:24,120
We have Kevin this year, Chris,
yo play this year.

3193
02:39:24,160 --> 02:39:25,400
You now you got to stay at
Kevin.

3194
02:39:25,400 --> 02:39:27,760
You got to stay with Kevin.
No, he doesn't.

3195
02:39:27,760 --> 02:39:31,280
Do us Kevin League.
Kevin ends because Kevin's got a

3196
02:39:31,280 --> 02:39:34,600
guy on the team.
It was 3.

3197
02:39:34,600 --> 02:39:36,880
Plays for me it was it was 3.
It's 3 plays for me.

3198
02:39:38,160 --> 02:39:44,080
First pass Kyrie gets in against
Purdue, hits, hits Daquan right

3199
02:39:44,080 --> 02:39:46,360
up the scene bow.
I was like I was.

3200
02:39:46,400 --> 02:39:50,920
Like, oh shit.
I was like, oh snap, hey, can I

3201
02:39:51,000 --> 02:39:53,120
say something?
Like quick, can I say something

3202
02:39:53,120 --> 02:39:57,480
like quick just on that, hey,
when he went, went, yeah, when

3203
02:39:57,480 --> 02:39:59,960
he got in, when he got in and he
did that.

3204
02:40:00,400 --> 02:40:03,480
I started texting people and
said y'all motherfuckers told me

3205
02:40:03,480 --> 02:40:07,160
he couldn't pass the ball.
Y'all told me this motherfucker

3206
02:40:07,160 --> 02:40:09,280
couldn't.
Throw you son of a bitches,

3207
02:40:09,560 --> 02:40:10,880
That's what I said that.
Go ahead, Chris, it's.

3208
02:40:11,680 --> 02:40:13,960
It's it's 3 plays.
That one was number one.

3209
02:40:14,240 --> 02:40:17,240
Second play is the look on his
face when he lost to Florida

3210
02:40:17,240 --> 02:40:21,200
State because he was 38, hot.
I knew he was a super duper.

3211
02:40:21,440 --> 02:40:23,880
He was competitive as hell.
I said, oh, I love him.

3212
02:40:24,120 --> 02:40:27,600
And here's the last one, the
North Carolina State game.

3213
02:40:28,920 --> 02:40:31,280
When the second-half they?
Let him let loose of the ball.

3214
02:40:31,640 --> 02:40:34,120
I was like, hey, we ain't going
no damn where else.

3215
02:40:34,120 --> 02:40:36,720
There is no place else in the
country I'm going because they

3216
02:40:36,720 --> 02:40:38,240
going to let this dude cut it
loose.

3217
02:40:38,440 --> 02:40:42,240
So it may have been like for us
it was the wins, but it's the

3218
02:40:42,240 --> 02:40:44,960
way I watched him progress as a
quarterback.

3219
02:40:45,280 --> 02:40:50,440
And so that was the thing for me
to watch QB One be that guy.

3220
02:40:50,440 --> 02:40:54,520
Step, step, step.
I know I'm like when I saw him,

3221
02:40:54,560 --> 02:40:58,200
when I saw him last Saturday.
I asked him what he was going.

3222
02:40:58,200 --> 02:41:00,920
To go do for the offseason.
And he told me he's going to go

3223
02:41:00,920 --> 02:41:03,800
work with Cam, Cam, Ward and
Shadora.

3224
02:41:03,960 --> 02:41:06,640
I was like, oh shit.
I was like, I was like, yeah,

3225
02:41:07,240 --> 02:41:10,320
hey, hey, dude, I was so hyped.
I was like, you know, because

3226
02:41:11,360 --> 02:41:14,040
I'm.
I said, I said, Chris, you on

3227
02:41:14,040 --> 02:41:15,880
there with me because a lot of
times after the games win or

3228
02:41:15,880 --> 02:41:20,160
lost me and you were together.
I said Yep, once it becomes this

3229
02:41:20,160 --> 02:41:25,240
team, Virginia Tech would do
themselves a huge favor if they

3230
02:41:25,240 --> 02:41:28,240
build and brand around him.
I'm telling you, I don't.

3231
02:41:28,280 --> 02:41:30,680
I don't miss.
I called Eddie Royal.

3232
02:41:31,640 --> 02:41:34,840
I still got the.
I still got the text.

3233
02:41:34,840 --> 02:41:39,200
My phone, the white said.
The White said they still

3234
02:41:39,200 --> 02:41:42,760
haven't endorsed him.
QB One for real, he said.

3235
02:41:42,760 --> 02:41:44,920
This kid is just out there
playing, he said.

3236
02:41:44,920 --> 02:41:47,720
When they start really endorsing
him, he's a star.

3237
02:41:49,280 --> 02:41:51,880
And The thing is.
Even if his dad.

3238
02:41:51,880 --> 02:41:53,240
Wasn't here.
I've been saying, I've been

3239
02:41:53,240 --> 02:41:58,480
saying all year when he took
over because of the way the game

3240
02:41:58,480 --> 02:42:02,120
is played now with the Rpos, the
mobility he has, plus the fact

3241
02:42:02,120 --> 02:42:07,000
is is he is my son is a fan.
He said, Yo, my dude is so cool

3242
02:42:07,000 --> 02:42:09,880
and calm and collective, but yet
he can run up on it and push a

3243
02:42:09,880 --> 02:42:11,560
defensive tackle from Wake
Forest.

3244
02:42:11,800 --> 02:42:15,600
He can get in.
He has the marketability where

3245
02:42:15,600 --> 02:42:18,240
tech.
Now it's not just about back

3246
02:42:18,240 --> 02:42:20,200
when I played it was Beamer,
Ball, lunch, bell.

3247
02:42:20,560 --> 02:42:24,720
Now you have to now you have to
mark it because if you market

3248
02:42:24,720 --> 02:42:28,280
and brand a player, you're going
to get more views, more kids

3249
02:42:28,280 --> 02:42:30,400
will be like, yo, I want to do
this.

3250
02:42:30,400 --> 02:42:34,160
Case in point, they're people
now that were babies, that were

3251
02:42:34,160 --> 02:42:37,760
kids that still talk about the
impact Tyrod and Mike Vick had

3252
02:42:37,800 --> 02:42:40,520
on Virginia Tech.
Mike ain't played in.

3253
02:42:40,520 --> 02:42:42,520
Years.
You know what I'm saying?

3254
02:42:42,560 --> 02:42:46,160
Yeah, so 2 decades.
If you do this right.

3255
02:42:46,160 --> 02:42:51,040
With drones he can be that guy.
I I I know I was on the island

3256
02:42:51,480 --> 02:42:54,200
and I wasn't anti wells on some
like oh I hate.

3257
02:42:54,240 --> 02:42:57,480
It was more so like he fit.
And I remember Billy from Suns

3258
02:42:57,480 --> 02:42:59,640
this Saturday was like well, I
don't think much will change if

3259
02:42:59,640 --> 02:43:02,320
he becomes a quarterback.
I said yes it will because he

3260
02:43:02,320 --> 02:43:05,720
will open up running lanes.
That's what he would do because

3261
02:43:05,720 --> 02:43:08,120
the linebackers have to honor
him on his own.

3262
02:43:08,120 --> 02:43:10,840
They have to honor.
They have to honor him on his

3263
02:43:10,920 --> 02:43:15,880
own and that's why.
He became the guy.

3264
02:43:16,840 --> 02:43:18,680
Billy.
Billy catching strays.

3265
02:43:18,680 --> 02:43:19,760
No matter.
I'm sorry.

3266
02:43:19,840 --> 02:43:23,960
I'm sorry if you talked about.
It on this program we talked

3267
02:43:23,960 --> 02:43:27,400
about all this program No 3.
Up top talked.

3268
02:43:27,400 --> 02:43:29,080
About it, hey.
Kevin, I'm.

3269
02:43:29,080 --> 02:43:30,000
Going to be for.
Real.

3270
02:43:30,280 --> 02:43:33,120
Can we stop for one moment?
QV, one's dad.

3271
02:43:33,120 --> 02:43:35,200
Kevin, when was it?
What play?

3272
02:43:35,800 --> 02:43:39,640
Whether you were in this stadium
at Lane or, you know, I don't

3273
02:43:39,640 --> 02:43:42,400
know if you made it to Rutgers
or Marshall.

3274
02:43:42,640 --> 02:43:45,320
When was it?
When you saw your son make a

3275
02:43:45,320 --> 02:43:49,120
play one way or the other and
said this is it, He's not losing

3276
02:43:49,120 --> 02:43:51,160
this job.
He is here.

3277
02:43:53,640 --> 02:43:56,240
I'm going to.
A couple of things go ahead, so

3278
02:43:56,360 --> 02:44:01,440
I'll go back to the pit day, so
me and my daughter go and we go

3279
02:44:01,440 --> 02:44:04,880
see him before the game.
And.

3280
02:44:05,160 --> 02:44:08,160
It's it's it's Kern.
Like, I see.

3281
02:44:08,640 --> 02:44:10,440
Oh, he's back.
Like this is him.

3282
02:44:11,200 --> 02:44:15,480
Shadow Creek, 2020 Shadow.
Creek, this is high school Kern,

3283
02:44:15,480 --> 02:44:19,520
like, they've cut him loose for
real because he's like, I feel

3284
02:44:19,520 --> 02:44:21,920
good going to go up here, rest,
whatever.

3285
02:44:22,120 --> 02:44:25,720
And he stepped off that bus.
And when when that hokey walk

3286
02:44:26,080 --> 02:44:28,560
and he stepped off the bus and
he had those white Prada

3287
02:44:28,560 --> 02:44:32,040
sunglasses on and I looked at my
daughter and I said, Oh yeah.

3288
02:44:32,600 --> 02:44:34,760
Yeah, he was on one.
And then he was on one.

3289
02:44:34,760 --> 02:44:37,120
He did the celebration.
I was like, oh, he really

3290
02:44:37,120 --> 02:44:38,920
feeling himself.
Then he did the Jordan thing and

3291
02:44:38,920 --> 02:44:40,800
I was like, oh, he really
feeling himself today.

3292
02:44:41,000 --> 02:44:43,040
They had to let him get
comfortable, yeah.

3293
02:44:43,240 --> 02:44:45,040
So.
My plays.

3294
02:44:45,040 --> 02:44:46,880
Would be the back-to-back
spikes.

3295
02:44:47,360 --> 02:44:50,880
They show spike that he didn't
get penalized on, and in current

3296
02:44:50,880 --> 02:44:53,520
spike which they had to penalize
since then they hit the referee.

3297
02:44:55,880 --> 02:44:57,560
Oh.
It would be.

3298
02:44:57,560 --> 02:44:58,400
Those.
Two.

3299
02:44:58,480 --> 02:45:02,840
And the other moment was when
they went to Boston College.

3300
02:45:03,640 --> 02:45:07,600
They took care of business like
they did because I felt like the

3301
02:45:07,600 --> 02:45:11,160
team needed that.
They need to understand we can

3302
02:45:11,160 --> 02:45:14,160
go on the road and be the team
like it should be.

3303
02:45:14,160 --> 02:45:17,600
Because I before that, all I
heard about was Castellanos and

3304
02:45:17,840 --> 02:45:20,360
how it was.
Yeah, he was that dude.

3305
02:45:21,080 --> 02:45:24,000
They went there.
As a team and put a beat down on

3306
02:45:24,000 --> 02:45:25,880
Boston College and I had a great
time.

3307
02:45:25,880 --> 02:45:27,360
This is my Cheers cup right
here.

3308
02:45:27,600 --> 02:45:30,240
I went to Cheers and had a ball.
Oh yeah, I saw that.

3309
02:45:30,880 --> 02:45:32,440
I saw that picture dog.
I saw this.

3310
02:45:32,440 --> 02:45:33,200
I had.
I went to.

3311
02:45:33,200 --> 02:45:37,840
Cheers and had a ball at night.
Had the best crab boil I've had,

3312
02:45:37,880 --> 02:45:42,000
but I I plan to do another one
when I get to Maryland Christmas

3313
02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:44,440
Eve, so I'll be there.
I do like a good.

3314
02:45:44,480 --> 02:45:47,840
Yeah, Bill Gates are by.
The way I'll be there.

3315
02:45:49,920 --> 02:45:51,000
But yeah, that's my.
That's my.

3316
02:45:51,040 --> 02:45:52,560
Three months, that's your three
months you got.

3317
02:45:52,560 --> 02:45:54,080
To come out with me in
Annapolis.

3318
02:45:54,200 --> 02:45:57,120
I'll be there.
Hey, hit.

3319
02:45:57,120 --> 02:45:58,560
Me up, Curtis going to be there
too, Curtis.

3320
02:45:59,680 --> 02:46:00,760
Is going to get me I.
Am I?

3321
02:46:01,440 --> 02:46:04,760
Kevin, I'm driving in that
morning, so I'll hit you up.

3322
02:46:05,080 --> 02:46:06,880
Dwight, I'm going to hit you up.
Yeah.

3323
02:46:07,280 --> 02:46:08,280
Dan, when are you going to be
in?

3324
02:46:09,160 --> 02:46:09,480
I'll.
I'll.

3325
02:46:09,600 --> 02:46:11,840
Get on Tuesday.
Afternoon, I'm going to.

3326
02:46:11,840 --> 02:46:13,040
Be in Wednesday.
Morning.

3327
02:46:15,000 --> 02:46:18,040
Listen, this.
As always, the state of the

3328
02:46:18,040 --> 02:46:20,880
program is one of our funnest
episodes.

3329
02:46:21,480 --> 02:46:23,960
All of y'all.
We we lost Jeremy,

3330
02:46:23,960 --> 02:46:27,080
unfortunately.
You know what?

3331
02:46:27,080 --> 02:46:28,080
Shout out.
The Jeremy.

3332
02:46:28,080 --> 02:46:29,800
Shout out the Jeremy I.
Love Jeremy?

3333
02:46:29,800 --> 02:46:31,680
I don't.
Know Jeremy pays.

3334
02:46:31,680 --> 02:46:33,960
The bills here around these
parts, so hold on.

3335
02:46:34,520 --> 02:46:36,360
We always got.
To show Jeremy tell, I got.

3336
02:46:36,360 --> 02:46:43,480
To show you something.
Oh, there it is, I still think.

3337
02:46:44,720 --> 02:46:47,120
I still think mine look better.
I still.

3338
02:46:47,120 --> 02:46:49,600
Got to say mine.
Look better, my wife wanted.

3339
02:46:49,840 --> 02:46:51,240
Me to show you all.
These.

3340
02:46:51,280 --> 02:46:55,520
So this is this the bold prep.
This is what we're doing with

3341
02:46:55,560 --> 02:47:04,000
shit, yeah.
Oh, hey, Kevin.

3342
02:47:04,000 --> 02:47:05,760
Just.
Flex it on us right now, Kevin.

3343
02:47:05,800 --> 02:47:12,040
Flex it on man.
Kevin said I got everything.

3344
02:47:12,040 --> 02:47:13,760
Here, man.
Let's do this, yeah.

3345
02:47:14,520 --> 02:47:22,440
I gotta say, so I I hit, I hit
you up, whatever I need to do.

3346
02:47:23,120 --> 02:47:25,040
Listen, we we do this every
year.

3347
02:47:25,080 --> 02:47:27,120
The state of the program means a
lot.

3348
02:47:27,120 --> 02:47:30,760
And what the state of the
program says for us is where we

3349
02:47:30,760 --> 02:47:33,400
are.
A year ago, this one a fun

3350
02:47:33,400 --> 02:47:37,040
episode.
We were three and 8/3.

3351
02:47:37,040 --> 02:47:37,680
And.
Eight.

3352
02:47:37,720 --> 02:47:40,480
It kicked us in the God damn
fucking nuts.

3353
02:47:40,480 --> 02:47:43,800
And it was just like in our
lifetime between me.

3354
02:47:43,800 --> 02:47:47,920
Ziegler, Tally, Jeremy's drunk
ass ain't here.

3355
02:47:48,640 --> 02:47:51,320
We've never seen three wins as a
program.

3356
02:47:51,840 --> 02:47:54,840
We've never seen that because we
go back to nine.

3357
02:47:54,920 --> 02:47:59,200
We go back to the mid 90s where
it was Sugar bowls, Gator bowls,

3358
02:47:59,200 --> 02:48:02,240
Peach bowls, Orange bowls, all
the good stuff.

3359
02:48:03,440 --> 02:48:05,480
And we sit here and.
We're like, what?

3360
02:48:05,480 --> 02:48:07,280
What is this?
What happened?

3361
02:48:07,960 --> 02:48:10,480
And then this year happened, and
we saw it.

3362
02:48:11,600 --> 02:48:15,600
Transform.
We saw a transformation, Robbie

3363
02:48:15,600 --> 02:48:19,440
telling us that drones, kids is
different.

3364
02:48:21,000 --> 02:48:22,720
Fan.
Interviewing Pete, talking.

3365
02:48:22,720 --> 02:48:25,360
About it.
Tally talking, I mean all.

3366
02:48:25,360 --> 02:48:28,000
Of us looking at film, man, like
all of us talking about film,

3367
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:30,640
like we're like when.
We look at this.

3368
02:48:30,640 --> 02:48:34,040
Team, it's different.
It's different with this kid at

3369
02:48:34,040 --> 02:48:36,400
the starting quarterback.
And then it happened.

3370
02:48:36,520 --> 02:48:38,960
Real ball watchers, no.
And then we.

3371
02:48:39,280 --> 02:48:41,320
Absolutely Dan's.
Dan's right.

3372
02:48:42,040 --> 02:48:43,800
And then?
Week 3, it happens.

3373
02:48:44,640 --> 02:48:47,760
And then those two weeks of like
confirmation, it's like moving

3374
02:48:47,760 --> 02:48:51,760
around, moving around, hit hits.
And then fiving through.

3375
02:48:51,760 --> 02:48:55,240
The rest of the season.
Hey fellas, I I.

3376
02:48:55,240 --> 02:48:57,400
Don't mean to cut across, but I
I really want you to.

3377
02:48:57,880 --> 02:49:03,400
It really happened before then.
Because you know us as men, you

3378
02:49:03,400 --> 02:49:06,480
know, it's hard for us to admit
when we're not, when we're

3379
02:49:06,480 --> 02:49:09,720
wrong.
So when Pry comes out and says,

3380
02:49:09,720 --> 02:49:13,480
you know what, I need to be a
better head coach, hey, I need

3381
02:49:13,480 --> 02:49:16,960
to turn this over to Mars, you
know, and let them take their

3382
02:49:16,960 --> 02:49:20,200
bumps and bruises along the way
to get to that point.

3383
02:49:20,600 --> 02:49:24,400
That's what really changed it,
the getting getting talent.

3384
02:49:24,520 --> 02:49:27,960
Because I cannot tell you the
number of times he called my

3385
02:49:27,960 --> 02:49:33,040
house and said, listen, don't
don't give up on us If we can

3386
02:49:33,040 --> 02:49:36,560
sneak, if we can sneak you in
and put a unknown name on you

3387
02:49:36,920 --> 02:49:40,240
and let you go run down the
field, kids will do it, 'cause

3388
02:49:40,240 --> 02:49:42,200
we ain't Got Talent, we ain't
got the talent.

3389
02:49:42,520 --> 02:49:45,600
But for him to understand I need
to learn this and I got to get

3390
02:49:45,600 --> 02:49:49,000
better at that.
This coaching staff understood

3391
02:49:49,000 --> 02:49:51,720
they needed to get certain
people and for them to go on the

3392
02:49:51,720 --> 02:49:53,960
portal.
I mean we we watch it every day.

3393
02:49:54,720 --> 02:49:57,960
Shout out to Kobe, man who who
put the the Twitter feed up

3394
02:49:58,200 --> 02:50:00,040
about the portal.
Yeah, respect to Kobe.

3395
02:50:00,160 --> 02:50:02,760
Kobe has been crushed.
Yeah.

3396
02:50:02,760 --> 02:50:05,360
He out there?
Doing God's work, they shot out

3397
02:50:05,360 --> 02:50:07,720
for 30 people.
They going to end up getting

3398
02:50:07,720 --> 02:50:10,080
maybe four.
I know they got two more guys

3399
02:50:10,280 --> 02:50:11,520
coming in already.
Oh.

3400
02:50:12,080 --> 02:50:14,160
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we know.

3401
02:50:14,400 --> 02:50:16,320
Yeah, Yeah.
We talked about it.

3402
02:50:16,600 --> 02:50:18,560
We're not breaking news here,
but we talked about it.

3403
02:50:18,560 --> 02:50:20,680
Yeah, Yeah, we talked about it,
but the.

3404
02:50:21,680 --> 02:50:25,000
The thing about it is that they
they go out and target certain

3405
02:50:25,000 --> 02:50:26,640
cats.
Because I'm going to be honest

3406
02:50:26,640 --> 02:50:31,800
with you, before they shot a,
you know, shot a offer to a kid

3407
02:50:31,800 --> 02:50:35,120
out and from Baylor, I ain't
know who Kyron Jones was.

3408
02:50:35,400 --> 02:50:36,960
I ain't had no clue.
Who he was.

3409
02:50:37,240 --> 02:50:39,680
But they.
But they do their research and

3410
02:50:39,680 --> 02:50:41,760
they dig it out.
So, man, shout out to this

3411
02:50:41,760 --> 02:50:43,960
coaching staff, changing this
thing, man.

3412
02:50:43,960 --> 02:50:46,760
And it's never the guy who
follows the legend.

3413
02:50:46,960 --> 02:50:49,880
That's great.
It's the guy that follows, the

3414
02:50:49,920 --> 02:50:52,320
guy that follows the legend that
is.

3415
02:50:52,400 --> 02:50:53,160
Am I right?
Yeah.

3416
02:50:56,200 --> 02:50:59,480
I said.
I said at the end of the day, I

3417
02:50:59,480 --> 02:51:03,280
might have been again when the
Twitter space with you.

3418
02:51:03,360 --> 02:51:08,840
I said one thing Pride will need
to do, and Beamer had his and

3419
02:51:08,840 --> 02:51:10,400
other coaches across the country
had this.

3420
02:51:10,760 --> 02:51:13,560
I said he's got to get his Mount
Rushmore recruit.

3421
02:51:14,640 --> 02:51:15,720
I.
Said that, he said.

3422
02:51:17,840 --> 02:51:20,280
I said he could be.
The the first of the Mount

3423
02:51:20,280 --> 02:51:22,680
Rushmore.
Because for Beamer it was Mike.

3424
02:51:23,000 --> 02:51:25,280
It was Cornell Brown.
Maurice Cesajo.

3425
02:51:25,640 --> 02:51:27,880
It was Austin.
Kevin.

3426
02:51:27,880 --> 02:51:30,480
Jones, You know, you look at
that.

3427
02:51:31,400 --> 02:51:33,600
Yeah, so you.
Look at Kyron Jones.

3428
02:51:33,600 --> 02:51:35,920
He could be the first of the
Mount Rushmore.

3429
02:51:37,640 --> 02:51:41,000
We talked about that on this.
Program man we talked about.

3430
02:51:41,240 --> 02:51:44,640
Who's going to be the?
Corey Moore of this fucking pry

3431
02:51:44,640 --> 02:51:45,880
regime and look.
Right.

3432
02:51:45,880 --> 02:51:47,880
Tell you how important it is
Syracuse.

3433
02:51:47,880 --> 02:51:50,920
I'm I'm going back to my
original point Syracuse missed

3434
02:51:50,920 --> 02:51:54,240
on my cousin Donna May now
always says how did he who got I

3435
02:51:54,240 --> 02:51:56,840
said I got him.
Donna McNabb, I beat you twice,

3436
02:51:57,200 --> 02:51:58,760
right.
So here's the thing.

3437
02:51:59,440 --> 02:52:01,160
Syracuse never recovered from
that.

3438
02:52:01,640 --> 02:52:04,200
They never recovered.
They got, they got Troy, they

3439
02:52:04,200 --> 02:52:07,360
had a guy named Troy Nunes.
And then after that they went

3440
02:52:07,360 --> 02:52:09,240
through a a shit load of
quarterbacks.

3441
02:52:09,240 --> 02:52:11,120
They never recovered from not
getting Mike.

3442
02:52:11,120 --> 02:52:12,960
Look at UVA.
Look at the schools who never

3443
02:52:12,960 --> 02:52:15,720
really gotten that guy.
Greg has been very fortunate.

3444
02:52:15,720 --> 02:52:17,200
Gerard Evans.
And then, you know we went

3445
02:52:17,200 --> 02:52:19,200
through some some tough years
and then you get Kyle.

3446
02:52:19,200 --> 02:52:20,280
Ron.
It was up and down.

3447
02:52:20,800 --> 02:52:23,560
You got a hit?
You got a hit and we hit on

3448
02:52:23,560 --> 02:52:27,160
Mike, we hit on Brian Randall,
we hit on tie rod and listen,

3449
02:52:27,160 --> 02:52:30,440
tie rod was a five star, but you
still got a hit on him and and

3450
02:52:30,480 --> 02:52:33,320
and and we did.
And it's funny when we're

3451
02:52:33,320 --> 02:52:35,880
talking about what when we'll
know we're back.

3452
02:52:36,360 --> 02:52:38,240
That is a very difficult
question.

3453
02:52:38,240 --> 02:52:41,640
Some people think we might have
already seen that moment, maybe

3454
02:52:41,640 --> 02:52:43,680
at the UVA game or earlier in
the year.

3455
02:52:44,240 --> 02:52:47,560
But do you remember back in the
90s And they're trying to define

3456
02:52:47,560 --> 02:52:50,800
pornography, right?
And it's a very hard thing to

3457
02:52:50,800 --> 02:52:52,040
define.
You know it when you see it,

3458
02:52:52,040 --> 02:52:53,120
you.
Know it when?

3459
02:52:53,120 --> 02:52:58,920
You see it and I think when we
are back we will all know it

3460
02:52:59,280 --> 02:53:00,960
when we see it.
And we might.

3461
02:53:01,000 --> 02:53:03,920
And some of us might have
already seen it in that 55 point

3462
02:53:03,920 --> 02:53:07,760
performance, but I think it's
still to come and and we will

3463
02:53:07,760 --> 02:53:09,880
know when we see it, I'm be
honest.

3464
02:53:11,760 --> 02:53:15,440
With you I I think.
I think I think the the the Noah

3465
02:53:15,440 --> 02:53:18,880
see it point and I'm going to
just call it as it is Clemson

3466
02:53:18,880 --> 02:53:21,760
come to town we whip Clemson ass
that's what.

3467
02:53:23,200 --> 02:53:24,680
It's going to be for hey.
Can I talk my?

3468
02:53:24,720 --> 02:53:26,400
Shit for a second, talk for
shit.

3469
02:53:26,560 --> 02:53:28,440
Talk for shit day.
You got you with me, coach.

3470
02:53:28,920 --> 02:53:32,120
You with me, coach.
So last year you last year we

3471
02:53:32,120 --> 02:53:33,080
were.
Three and eight, right?

3472
02:53:33,240 --> 02:53:35,360
Yeah, I've been joking.
No, no, two years.

3473
02:53:35,360 --> 02:53:38,000
Ago, we had three names, 60
starts, Yeah, yeah, I've been.

3474
02:53:38,280 --> 02:53:40,400
I've been joking recently that I
love Pride.

3475
02:53:40,400 --> 02:53:42,600
Before it was cool.
Yeah, that's.

3476
02:53:42,640 --> 02:53:44,440
Fair.
I There were a few of us that.

3477
02:53:44,440 --> 02:53:48,000
Were never we never wavered?
And we went three and.

3478
02:53:48,000 --> 02:53:49,880
Eight.
And then there was a game last

3479
02:53:49,880 --> 02:53:53,760
year that that 2023 class put
out a video, said Hope, help us

3480
02:53:53,760 --> 02:53:56,120
on the way we're coming.
Everybody was like, what the

3481
02:53:56,120 --> 02:53:57,200
fuck?
This is some bullshit.

3482
02:53:57,200 --> 02:53:59,800
Everybody's like 85, like, you
know what I'm saying?

3483
02:54:00,240 --> 02:54:02,040
But a lot of everybody said it
was Dicky.

3484
02:54:02,520 --> 02:54:04,560
Everybody said it was Dicky
Dick.

3485
02:54:04,840 --> 02:54:08,160
A lot of these dudes, you know,
like they, they made an impact

3486
02:54:08,160 --> 02:54:10,160
this year.
And then you bring in a guy like

3487
02:54:10,160 --> 02:54:14,600
Karen who ends up being him.
And now we have a quarterback

3488
02:54:14,600 --> 02:54:18,320
that everybody between from the
coaching staff to the fan base

3489
02:54:18,320 --> 02:54:21,920
is absolutely united behind for
the first time since what Tyrod

3490
02:54:21,920 --> 02:54:25,960
and Logan.
So the the future for me and we,

3491
02:54:26,000 --> 02:54:30,400
we just plugged a lot of gaps
with Peoples Copeland, maybe a

3492
02:54:30,400 --> 02:54:32,880
couple more.
We got Bromfield coming in to

3493
02:54:32,880 --> 02:54:36,000
play the mic.
Like, for us to not be very,

3494
02:54:36,000 --> 02:54:38,360
very excited for the future
would be crazy.

3495
02:54:38,360 --> 02:54:40,480
Like, I'm ready.
I'm ready.

3496
02:54:40,800 --> 02:54:43,240
The opium inject me, baby.
Like, let's go.

3497
02:54:43,240 --> 02:54:45,440
Hey, yo, real quick.
You got to.

3498
02:54:45,440 --> 02:54:47,760
Wrap up but look.
Shout out to the fans because

3499
02:54:47,760 --> 02:54:48,640
I'm going to tell y'all
something.

3500
02:54:48,680 --> 02:54:52,640
After the Military Bowl, I sat
with my family was twenty of us.

3501
02:54:52,960 --> 02:54:55,800
I sat in that rainstorm.
I was soaked.

3502
02:54:56,120 --> 02:54:58,560
We had a chance to win the game.
We call it time out.

3503
02:54:58,880 --> 02:55:01,800
We on the we on the 2 inch, we
on the 2 inch yard line.

3504
02:55:02,280 --> 02:55:04,600
Ryan Willis goes on the center,
which I'm happy about.

3505
02:55:04,840 --> 02:55:07,120
We fumble the ball.
This is after we got a turnover.

3506
02:55:07,120 --> 02:55:09,600
Cincinnati was a 10 or 11 win
team that year.

3507
02:55:09,600 --> 02:55:13,920
Ten wins team right we we we if
we go and score we go up two

3508
02:55:13,920 --> 02:55:17,400
scores and we win that game.
After that game I vowed I would

3509
02:55:17,400 --> 02:55:20,240
never go back to a tech game
until something changed with the

3510
02:55:20,240 --> 02:55:22,120
coach.
I had not I had not been to

3511
02:55:22,120 --> 02:55:24,240
Blacksburg.
I I I stopped going to the

3512
02:55:24,240 --> 02:55:27,080
spring game.
He said this on our program You.

3513
02:55:28,400 --> 02:55:30,120
You called the spring game,
Dwight.

3514
02:55:30,120 --> 02:55:31,440
That was your thing.
I called.

3515
02:55:31,800 --> 02:55:35,320
It but I I I was mad.
It wasn't about alumni and how

3516
02:55:35,320 --> 02:55:38,360
we were treated.
I was mad because if you ever

3517
02:55:38,360 --> 02:55:40,440
build something or you're part
of something that's bigger than

3518
02:55:40,440 --> 02:55:42,840
yourself, it is emotional for
me.

3519
02:55:43,000 --> 02:55:45,480
So I'm not that guy.
Like I look at these guys now

3520
02:55:45,720 --> 02:55:48,280
that's playing Caleb.
What's all these young guys?

3521
02:55:48,280 --> 02:55:50,960
I'm happy.
I was happy when Dwayne Brown

3522
02:55:50,960 --> 02:55:53,120
and Anthony Davis was killing
and why I tell her it's not

3523
02:55:53,120 --> 02:55:54,720
about me, it's about the
program.

3524
02:55:54,720 --> 02:55:59,360
So I was to the point where it
wasn't my feelings was hurt my

3525
02:55:59,400 --> 02:56:01,920
my love for what I helped build
was hurt.

3526
02:56:01,920 --> 02:56:03,440
Like my was.
It was it.

3527
02:56:04,040 --> 02:56:06,520
Show Show me what?
I'm used to, yeah, so like.

3528
02:56:06,800 --> 02:56:10,080
And then I kept seeing guys on
Twitter, Not the new guys there

3529
02:56:10,080 --> 02:56:13,520
now, but they'll stick with us.
And then the next day, I know

3530
02:56:13,520 --> 02:56:16,400
they they leaving the program
and I'm talking to guys and

3531
02:56:16,400 --> 02:56:18,880
that's when Don V gave me the
scoop on what was going on.

3532
02:56:19,280 --> 02:56:23,120
So Hokey Nation, though they
have never wavered, they keep

3533
02:56:23,120 --> 02:56:26,840
coming back.
They're a big reason why our

3534
02:56:26,840 --> 02:56:31,360
brand is still reputable because
they keep showing up at 11:30

3535
02:56:31,360 --> 02:56:34,400
kickoffs Thursday night.
Now you're giving them a product

3536
02:56:34,840 --> 02:56:37,040
watch.
And for those going watch how

3537
02:56:37,040 --> 02:56:39,520
crazy the Military Bowl going to
look this next week.

3538
02:56:39,640 --> 02:56:42,360
Yeah, we're selling.
Out, We're selling out all.

3539
02:56:42,360 --> 02:56:45,720
Those games after a three win
season, yeah, and all those six

3540
02:56:45,720 --> 02:56:46,600
sell.
Out and.

3541
02:56:47,240 --> 02:56:50,040
Think about Blacksburg and how
hard it is to get to.

3542
02:56:50,040 --> 02:56:53,000
And I always say this to my
friends like, we don't get down

3543
02:56:53,000 --> 02:56:55,320
there that much because it's
hard to get to.

3544
02:56:55,320 --> 02:56:57,800
But when you get there, it is
special.

3545
02:56:58,120 --> 02:57:01,840
And you have to, you have to,
you have to earn your way to

3546
02:57:01,840 --> 02:57:05,320
get, you got to sit on 81 all
the way down to get there.

3547
02:57:05,440 --> 02:57:07,160
But once you get there, it's
special.

3548
02:57:07,160 --> 02:57:09,800
And that creates.
A different kind of environment

3549
02:57:09,800 --> 02:57:12,480
that only the people that go
know about.

3550
02:57:12,560 --> 02:57:15,720
And I'm with Dwight.
You can, you know it when you

3551
02:57:15,720 --> 02:57:18,280
see it, when you make it, but
you can also know it when you

3552
02:57:18,280 --> 02:57:21,840
see it when it stinks.
And I think a lot of us knew

3553
02:57:22,040 --> 02:57:25,760
something was fishy.
And fortunately we're not there

3554
02:57:25,760 --> 02:57:29,160
anymore and it feels good to be
on the other side.

3555
02:57:29,200 --> 02:57:30,800
I sat in that rainstorm too,
Dwight.

3556
02:57:31,680 --> 02:57:36,480
Man, listen, the Kentucky game,
I was like, yo, I'm not even one

3557
02:57:36,480 --> 02:57:37,840
of them guys.
I'm not going to lie to y'all.

3558
02:57:37,880 --> 02:57:39,040
I don't do all, Dwight said.
The.

3559
02:57:39,040 --> 02:57:41,360
Kentucky game.
That's oh man, you know, like,

3560
02:57:41,360 --> 02:57:44,120
yo, for real.
We should that game should have

3561
02:57:44,120 --> 02:57:46,480
been can't shipping the all out
brawl dog because I know how we

3562
02:57:46,480 --> 02:57:48,680
had the game back in the day.
Now what?

3563
02:57:48,680 --> 02:57:50,920
Killed me.
Was OK, We lose the game with

3564
02:57:50,920 --> 02:57:53,160
complete control, then your boy
come to the podium.

3565
02:57:53,760 --> 02:57:55,520
They were like sorry about the
loss, coach, he said.

3566
02:57:55,520 --> 02:57:58,120
Nobody died.
What are y'all talking?

3567
02:57:59,080 --> 02:58:00,000
About like oh.
Really.

3568
02:58:02,400 --> 02:58:04,160
Also.
There should have been a fucking

3569
02:58:04,200 --> 02:58:06,800
axe Absolute scrap on the
sideline after that.

3570
02:58:06,800 --> 02:58:07,720
Lynn Balin.
Shit.

3571
02:58:09,040 --> 02:58:10,800
That.
Should have escalated to

3572
02:58:11,520 --> 02:58:14,600
uncontrollable levels.
There should have been.

3573
02:58:14,600 --> 02:58:17,560
There should have been offensive
lineman and defensive lineman

3574
02:58:17,720 --> 02:58:19,360
breaking Lynn Balin.
I would.

3575
02:58:19,400 --> 02:58:21,080
I would have broke somebody's
fucking arm off.

3576
02:58:21,080 --> 02:58:22,800
No, no.
No seagull.

3577
02:58:22,800 --> 02:58:23,520
Just.
Be.

3578
02:58:24,320 --> 02:58:26,360
Now let him downside.
Get in your face.

3579
02:58:26,640 --> 02:58:28,160
You would have fucking destroyed
him.

3580
02:58:28,840 --> 02:58:32,320
Yeah, that was.
The shit back then, it is not

3581
02:58:32,320 --> 02:58:36,720
nailed because we have turned a
we have turned a corner in the

3582
02:58:36,720 --> 02:58:39,800
program of the culture.
We're back where we were.

3583
02:58:40,640 --> 02:58:43,920
It sounds funny, right?
We're back to where we were in

3584
02:58:43,920 --> 02:58:45,440
the terms of the.
Chemistry.

3585
02:58:45,440 --> 02:58:47,200
Not.
Maybe not all the way with the

3586
02:58:47,360 --> 02:58:48,240
time.
Right.

3587
02:58:48,320 --> 02:58:50,560
No, I'm going to I'm.
Going.

3588
02:58:51,120 --> 02:58:52,880
To say something, Dwight.
Dwight said something.

3589
02:58:54,000 --> 02:58:56,080
Yeah, Dwight said something to
me, man.

3590
02:58:56,720 --> 02:59:00,320
I guess it may have been last
year at the OR this year at the

3591
02:59:00,320 --> 02:59:01,800
beginning of the season, he
said.

3592
02:59:01,880 --> 02:59:04,560
I think everybody was kind of
arguing about who was going to

3593
02:59:04,560 --> 02:59:07,440
coach what or what quarterback
coach we were going to get or

3594
02:59:07,560 --> 02:59:08,800
what coach was going to bring
in.

3595
02:59:09,040 --> 02:59:12,760
And Dwight was like, it don't
matter what coach we bring in.

3596
02:59:13,520 --> 02:59:16,160
I mean, you got your head coach.
We got to get talent.

3597
02:59:16,200 --> 02:59:18,080
We need talent.
That's what we need.

3598
02:59:18,080 --> 02:59:19,520
It don't matter.
Who?

3599
02:59:19,560 --> 02:59:22,600
It don't matter who's coaching
the kids if you don't have

3600
02:59:22,600 --> 02:59:26,920
talent.
So for I mean great kids from

3601
02:59:26,920 --> 02:59:31,080
last year, last year's team, but
when you go into this off?

3602
02:59:31,760 --> 02:59:34,200
Like Pete said, I'm.
Not saying that we're back, but

3603
02:59:34,200 --> 02:59:37,760
going into this next season,
we're going to bring some camera

3604
02:59:37,760 --> 02:59:40,240
crews in because we got star
power.

3605
02:59:40,560 --> 02:59:43,560
Like if you look at Aly
Jennings, if you look at Aly

3606
02:59:43,560 --> 02:59:48,040
Jennings and that game that he
played, how many people he had

3607
02:59:48,040 --> 02:59:52,600
at that game, like the ACC
Network was eating that up.

3608
02:59:53,280 --> 02:59:55,520
Because he has talent.
But they like look how many

3609
02:59:55,520 --> 02:59:57,760
people he's got here and he's a
good talker.

3610
02:59:57,760 --> 03:00:00,720
And then when you see Kyrie, he
get on, he get on and he starts

3611
03:00:00,720 --> 03:00:02,200
out, you got to have some of
that.

3612
03:00:02,360 --> 03:00:04,960
You going to have some kids on
the All ACC?

3613
03:00:05,440 --> 03:00:08,040
Watch list before the game.
You going to have some kids

3614
03:00:08,400 --> 03:00:10,520
maybe on the all America we had
some all American.

3615
03:00:10,840 --> 03:00:14,560
Dorian Strong was all American
like you got, you got fresh.

3616
03:00:15,120 --> 03:00:17,920
You got fresh recruits?
Yeah, you got high.

3617
03:00:17,920 --> 03:00:21,600
Profile recruits coming in,
you've got something that a

3618
03:00:21,600 --> 03:00:24,240
camera crew is going to want to
come in and talk about and going

3619
03:00:24,240 --> 03:00:27,120
to want to film, and it's just
not going to be manufactured

3620
03:00:27,120 --> 03:00:29,120
hype.
It's going to be actual hype.

3621
03:00:29,280 --> 03:00:32,880
What we do with it, we'll see.
But I remember when they used to

3622
03:00:32,880 --> 03:00:35,800
go cover David Wilson and say,
hey, look at his car.

3623
03:00:35,800 --> 03:00:39,480
He had the old school car.
I remember on, on, on the, on

3624
03:00:39,520 --> 03:00:41,440
ESPN.
And they will follow.

3625
03:00:41,560 --> 03:00:44,040
Him around and talk about what
he was doing.

3626
03:00:45,000 --> 03:00:46,240
We had the year.
Like A2?

3627
03:00:46,320 --> 03:00:50,480
1001 camera or some shit, but
that was like fucking you got.

3628
03:00:50,720 --> 03:00:55,400
Yeah, you got to think, man,
like next year we have stars

3629
03:00:55,440 --> 03:00:57,360
that people are going to want to
know about.

3630
03:00:57,560 --> 03:00:58,720
They don't want to know about
Kyron drones.

3631
03:00:58,720 --> 03:01:00,160
They're going to want to know
about Bayshaw, too.

3632
03:01:00,160 --> 03:01:02,240
They're going to want to know
about Quanfeld.

3633
03:01:02,240 --> 03:01:04,720
They're going to want to know
about Allie Jennings.

3634
03:01:04,720 --> 03:01:08,920
They're going to want to know
about at least those owning APL

3635
03:01:09,720 --> 03:01:13,400
they want.
To know about White shot the

3636
03:01:13,440 --> 03:01:18,960
Curtis they want.
To know about White.

3637
03:01:18,960 --> 03:01:20,600
Chocolate Chocolate.
Yeah.

3638
03:01:20,600 --> 03:01:23,720
So I go back to my to my
original statement.

3639
03:01:23,960 --> 03:01:25,680
You know, like kind of what
Pete's saying.

3640
03:01:25,680 --> 03:01:28,320
We'll know when we see it, but
we're going to have all the

3641
03:01:28,320 --> 03:01:31,480
tools to get there because
you're going to see a lot of

3642
03:01:31,480 --> 03:01:33,920
media covering these kids.
I got prediction, but I'm

3643
03:01:33,960 --> 03:01:35,160
waiting till September.
Go ahead.

3644
03:01:35,160 --> 03:01:39,600
I'm not going to say it now.
I I feel it in my OK, OK, I feel

3645
03:01:39,760 --> 03:01:40,280
it.
And I let.

3646
03:01:40,600 --> 03:01:42,920
I don't miss.
I don't miss when I make these

3647
03:01:42,920 --> 03:01:45,080
predictions.
I think he, I think he texted me

3648
03:01:45,080 --> 03:01:47,240
before.
I'm not going to text him today

3649
03:01:47,280 --> 03:01:50,920
before he's not going to make it
public.

3650
03:01:50,920 --> 03:01:51,920
But he does what he's talking
about.

3651
03:01:52,200 --> 03:01:52,920
Hold on.
Wait, A.

3652
03:01:53,280 --> 03:01:53,960
Second.
Hold on.

3653
03:01:53,960 --> 03:01:57,240
Wait a second, we.
Know Dwight will be back on in

3654
03:01:57,320 --> 03:02:01,000
April or excuse me, August of
next year to make all his

3655
03:02:01,040 --> 03:02:05,000
predictions.
When we go March, April, it's

3656
03:02:05,000 --> 03:02:07,520
always a Dwight episode.
Look man, we always have Dwight

3657
03:02:07,520 --> 03:02:10,080
on in March, April every year.
I'm not like I said.

3658
03:02:10,840 --> 03:02:12,440
His dad could be in Afghanistan
right now.

3659
03:02:12,440 --> 03:02:13,960
I'm not saying it because he's
on this joint, right?

3660
03:02:14,320 --> 03:02:17,360
I'm telling you I know what I
see, bro.

3661
03:02:17,440 --> 03:02:20,040
I don't miss.
I told everybody about Strowman.

3662
03:02:20,320 --> 03:02:23,840
Nobody, believe me.
I told people about David Wilson

3663
03:02:24,080 --> 03:02:25,880
and Eddie Royal before he got
there.

3664
03:02:25,880 --> 03:02:27,800
I don't.
I I told people about my cousin,

3665
03:02:28,240 --> 03:02:30,840
the guy that writes for the
collegiate times in 1998.

3666
03:02:31,280 --> 03:02:33,560
I said it's an article I'll I'll
post it.

3667
03:02:33,960 --> 03:02:36,000
I I think I did before.
I said he will change the

3668
03:02:36,000 --> 03:02:37,240
program.
He'll take us to the national

3669
03:02:37,240 --> 03:02:39,120
championship.
He'll he'll be up for the

3670
03:02:39,120 --> 03:02:40,760
Heisman.
I said all the things he has

3671
03:02:40,800 --> 03:02:44,480
read and the guy told me after I
walked away, he said, Yo, I

3672
03:02:44,520 --> 03:02:50,200
thought you was on that shit.
He said he.

3673
03:02:50,280 --> 03:02:52,680
Told you if it wasn't Ronald
Curry, it didn't matter.

3674
03:02:55,800 --> 03:03:05,000
If it wasn't Ronald Curry, it
didn't matter.

3675
03:03:09,760 --> 03:03:11,040
I said when I.
Know something?

3676
03:03:11,040 --> 03:03:13,200
I'm telling y'all.
Watch what drones do, Michael.

3677
03:03:13,920 --> 03:03:16,840
Michael Vick was running scout
team and blood, Foster said in a

3678
03:03:17,000 --> 03:03:19,560
in a coaches meeting.
He said Frank.

3679
03:03:19,800 --> 03:03:22,280
Either we are the worst tackling
team in the nation or that kid

3680
03:03:22,280 --> 03:03:24,960
is special and frank.
Said and Frank.

3681
03:03:25,040 --> 03:03:26,160
And.
Frank said.

3682
03:03:26,160 --> 03:03:30,240
We are a great tackling team and
that kid is Special 1998.

3683
03:03:30,240 --> 03:03:35,000
Was a great tackling team and
that wraps up this episode. 3

3684
03:03:35,080 --> 03:03:38,560
hours, 6 minutes.
Chris.

3685
03:03:39,040 --> 03:03:47,000
Kevin, Charlie, PB, Dan, Dwight,
Jeremy, Robbie, everybody that

3686
03:03:47,000 --> 03:03:51,120
joined us tonight, it wrapped
his side out to my.

3687
03:03:51,120 --> 03:03:53,640
Kiki crew, go ahead.
They've been in.

3688
03:03:53,640 --> 03:03:55,520
They've been in the chat room
all day.

3689
03:03:56,960 --> 03:03:58,040
They.
Killing me I've been seeing.

3690
03:03:58,280 --> 03:04:01,040
Them everybody that you.
Bringing along for the ride, I

3691
03:04:01,040 --> 03:04:05,000
appreciate that.
They gonna ride, ride or die

3692
03:04:05,000 --> 03:04:08,840
with me wherever I go.
So I told y'all all black people

3693
03:04:08,840 --> 03:04:11,000
are kid aren't part of the
Drones family.

3694
03:04:12,080 --> 03:04:13,480
Going to the game.
Love that.

3695
03:04:14,600 --> 03:04:15,960
No.
Doubt.

3696
03:04:18,600 --> 03:04:24,120
You ain't black.
I gotta find the white.

3697
03:04:24,200 --> 03:04:29,480
I gotta find big drink the damn
military Bowl.

3698
03:04:29,480 --> 03:04:33,400
I need a Kevin drone.
Episode come.

3699
03:04:33,400 --> 03:04:34,080
On listen.
Damn.

3700
03:04:34,320 --> 03:04:34,760
This is.
What?

3701
03:04:36,120 --> 03:04:39,160
This is like Aaron got.
Sick the week he was supposed to

3702
03:04:39,160 --> 03:04:41,560
do y'all show.
And he was.

3703
03:04:41,560 --> 03:04:45,880
So locked in on trying to get to
the bowl that he said he was

3704
03:04:45,880 --> 03:04:48,320
going to reach back out after
they finished.

3705
03:04:48,840 --> 03:04:50,600
But.
He he still wants to do y'all

3706
03:04:50,600 --> 03:04:53,440
show.
Listen we'll we'll.

3707
03:04:53,600 --> 03:04:55,240
We'll say both, Katie.
'S what?

3708
03:04:55,480 --> 03:04:56,160
What?
What?

3709
03:04:56,200 --> 03:04:58,920
What?
Let's do in in February when

3710
03:04:58,920 --> 03:05:01,160
he's a month into hardcore
training.

3711
03:05:01,800 --> 03:05:05,760
But listen, it's just been three
hours, 7 minutes it's been.

3712
03:05:05,840 --> 03:05:08,800
Also, this is what this episode
so much more to say.

3713
03:05:09,160 --> 03:05:17,400
We have been.
I've been trying to recruit.

3714
03:05:17,400 --> 03:05:19,880
Pete, I've been trying to Pete
the BCP.

3715
03:05:19,880 --> 03:05:24,600
So hey, I'm just telling Pete.
Was dropping.

3716
03:05:24,640 --> 03:05:27,320
Some Buy your monologue.
I love P, Man.

3717
03:05:27,440 --> 03:05:31,200
You would be those.
Of these fucking can I can I say

3718
03:05:31,200 --> 03:05:32,960
one more thing before?
We sign off real quick.

3719
03:05:33,360 --> 03:05:35,160
Yeah, you went when?
Clemson's When?

3720
03:05:35,160 --> 03:05:39,680
Clemson's dynasty started right
It started with a with a

3721
03:05:39,680 --> 03:05:42,520
quarterback in Taj Boyd, and it
started with a wide a wide

3722
03:05:42,720 --> 03:05:45,600
receiver in a Virginia.
Quarterback and we got 2.

3723
03:05:45,600 --> 03:05:49,360
Fathers, here we got, we got a
quarterback's father, we got a

3724
03:05:49,360 --> 03:05:51,800
wide receiver's father, and you
know what else all fell into

3725
03:05:51,800 --> 03:05:53,720
place after that?
The Lions came together and

3726
03:05:53,720 --> 03:05:55,600
everything.
That's where things start.

3727
03:05:55,760 --> 03:05:59,280
They start on the outside and
they come to the inside and

3728
03:05:59,640 --> 03:06:01,640
that's what we got coming back
for next year.

3729
03:06:02,200 --> 03:06:04,080
And I tell y'all this, man, I
can.

3730
03:06:04,360 --> 03:06:07,040
See I can.
See it building already and I'm

3731
03:06:07,040 --> 03:06:09,440
just pumped and I'm so happy to
be here he's.

3732
03:06:09,440 --> 03:06:12,440
Trying to hold it because see,
he keeps on saying, hey, when we

3733
03:06:12,440 --> 03:06:13,920
know it, when we see it, we know
it.

3734
03:06:15,200 --> 03:06:16,880
This.
Motherfucker, it's happening.

3735
03:06:17,000 --> 03:06:18,560
I understand he.
Said what he's saying.

3736
03:06:18,600 --> 03:06:21,400
Is it's happening right now.
That's what he's saying.

3737
03:06:21,400 --> 03:06:23,760
It's not just the beers.
Not.

3738
03:06:24,200 --> 03:06:27,120
Just the beers.
Hey if you new to this.

3739
03:06:27,120 --> 03:06:29,000
Program.
I want you to go back.

3740
03:06:29,000 --> 03:06:30,480
I want you to plug all of our
shit.

3741
03:06:30,480 --> 03:06:33,520
We've had Pry on.
Pry is a very candid coach.

3742
03:06:33,520 --> 03:06:34,640
He's going to tell you the
truth.

3743
03:06:34,640 --> 03:06:36,600
He's going to be real with you.
We've talked.

3744
03:06:36,600 --> 03:06:38,440
We've had the right on before
the season.

3745
03:06:38,760 --> 03:06:42,680
I've fought.
I'm talking about plenty of

3746
03:06:42,680 --> 03:06:45,480
motherfuckers on Twitter talking
about what this team was going

3747
03:06:45,480 --> 03:06:47,080
to do.
I said we going to get to a

3748
03:06:47,080 --> 03:06:49,560
motherfucker bowl game.
I'm telling you, I don't care

3749
03:06:49,560 --> 03:06:52,440
what I got, We get to a bowl
game and guess what?

3750
03:06:52,440 --> 03:06:53,400
Sally said.
We get.

3751
03:06:53,400 --> 03:06:56,320
To a bowl in spring.
We last year fucking.

3752
03:06:56,320 --> 03:06:58,520
Bowl game.
Everybody was looking at me

3753
03:06:58,520 --> 03:06:59,480
crazy.
We.

3754
03:06:59,600 --> 03:07:02,960
Let's go back to the the episode
before the season.

3755
03:07:03,240 --> 03:07:05,960
Yeah, let's check the tape.
Let's of the three hundreds said

3756
03:07:06,040 --> 03:07:07,600
it.
PB.

3757
03:07:07,600 --> 03:07:08,880
Said we're going to get to a
bowl.

3758
03:07:08,880 --> 03:07:10,520
We, a lot of us said we're going
to a bowl.

3759
03:07:11,040 --> 03:07:14,080
We got to a bowl this year.
I didn't see it.

3760
03:07:14,400 --> 03:07:16,200
Dan said it if you would have.
Told me a year from.

3761
03:07:16,200 --> 03:07:19,200
Now we here.
I didn't believe it, but we got

3762
03:07:19,200 --> 03:07:20,920
here.
We got here.

3763
03:07:20,920 --> 03:07:22,840
We're in.
Annapolis we.

3764
03:07:22,840 --> 03:07:27,480
Should maybe be somewhere else,
but let's not get into all that

3765
03:07:28,320 --> 03:07:30,280
'cause I love drunker.
I'm over the feeling good.

3766
03:07:30,440 --> 03:07:32,760
In my favor, are you about?
To go get.

3767
03:07:33,040 --> 03:07:34,680
Another I love drunker from
feeling good.

3768
03:07:36,080 --> 03:07:37,880
Oh.
Hey, hey, hey.

3769
03:07:37,880 --> 03:07:42,920
Chris, Brian and Robbie have
dealt with drunk Curtis, I

3770
03:07:42,920 --> 03:07:46,480
guarantee you.
More than a few times.

3771
03:07:47,400 --> 03:07:49,200
You know what?
We we've been here.

3772
03:07:49,200 --> 03:07:51,040
We've done that.
We bought the T-shirt, man.

3773
03:07:51,800 --> 03:07:53,600
We we took man.
Has to fucking be man.

3774
03:07:53,600 --> 03:07:56,160
Opens a second model.
We ain't making for about.

3775
03:08:00,760 --> 03:08:03,080
Three hours I get.
No, no, it's over with.

3776
03:08:03,120 --> 03:08:05,280
It's over with.
I'm telling you, man.

3777
03:08:05,360 --> 03:08:08,200
Hey, this is this what I this
what I want to say to this.

3778
03:08:08,200 --> 03:08:12,120
What I want to say to I don't.
I don't know who's already

3779
03:08:12,120 --> 03:08:14,200
making preparations.
I know Chris is.

3780
03:08:15,000 --> 03:08:19,200
I don't know who else is but
Nashville next year.

3781
03:08:19,560 --> 03:08:21,160
I need everybody to be there.
I see.

3782
03:08:21,360 --> 03:08:25,360
I see.
I see in the.

3783
03:08:25,440 --> 03:08:27,760
In the comments, y'all already
saying it's going to be the Kick

3784
03:08:27,760 --> 03:08:29,600
it crew.
We can name it whatever y'all

3785
03:08:29,600 --> 03:08:30,800
want to.
I'll tell you it's two hours a

3786
03:08:30,800 --> 03:08:32,760
work from my house.
Somebody don't got nowhere to

3787
03:08:32,760 --> 03:08:33,600
stay.
Give me a call.

3788
03:08:33,600 --> 03:08:35,560
You can come stay with me,
'cause I need us to.

3789
03:08:36,320 --> 03:08:39,640
I'll put.
My head down where you live.

3790
03:08:40,080 --> 03:08:41,240
I'll put my head down where you
live.

3791
03:08:41,240 --> 03:08:43,720
Hey, it's too much.
Fucking country music.

3792
03:08:43,720 --> 03:08:47,720
In Nashville, I need us sitting
down playing some rap music.

3793
03:08:47,720 --> 03:08:49,320
I need us sitting there slapping
the screw.

3794
03:08:49,400 --> 03:08:51,320
Come on, man.
Come on.

3795
03:08:52,680 --> 03:08:55,280
Man, yeah, man.
I hear you Kevin.

3796
03:08:59,320 --> 03:09:00,600
I'm.
Still tipping all.

3797
03:09:00,600 --> 03:09:03,760
Way to Nashville next year.
I need us to be up in.

3798
03:09:03,760 --> 03:09:07,440
I need us somebody's ass.
You locked in everybody.

3799
03:09:08,200 --> 03:09:09,360
In this.
Room tonight.

3800
03:09:10,640 --> 03:09:12,960
Everybody on this.
Whole everybody on this Whole.

3801
03:09:13,040 --> 03:09:15,080
Yeah, we'll be there.
Screaming and.

3802
03:09:15,200 --> 03:09:17,600
Louder and.
Proud and we say let's go.

3803
03:09:18,200 --> 03:09:22,360
OK.
Yes, Sir.

3804
03:09:23,080 --> 03:09:25,440
God.
Damn it, I'm gonna be a motion

3805
03:09:25,440 --> 03:09:27,080
picture.
Listen.

3806
03:09:27,600 --> 03:09:28,440
This.
Was.

3807
03:09:28,440 --> 03:09:32,440
Awesome Tonight, State of the
state of the program is good.

3808
03:09:33,000 --> 03:09:35,360
The state of the program right
now feels great because if you

3809
03:09:35,360 --> 03:09:38,960
feel the energy coming from this
room right now, we feel it.

3810
03:09:39,880 --> 03:09:41,520
Caring the quarterback.
Hey, Kevin.

3811
03:09:41,960 --> 03:09:45,520
Kevin who is Who is was that
callus knows Who is that?

3812
03:09:45,880 --> 03:09:49,400
That's my boy.
So OK, I got to meet him.

3813
03:09:49,880 --> 03:09:52,160
You've been rolling deep, man.
I love that you've been.

3814
03:09:52,280 --> 03:09:54,440
I got comments in there.
I love it old time.

3815
03:09:54,560 --> 03:09:57,400
So, Mario.
Mario and Andrew Callus.

3816
03:09:58,840 --> 03:10:01,200
They go with me.
To the Florida State Clemson

3817
03:10:01,240 --> 03:10:03,840
Act.
We fly I'm.

3818
03:10:03,840 --> 03:10:07,880
Up all night, we fly to Atlanta.
They don't have any rental.

3819
03:10:07,880 --> 03:10:11,120
Cars, It's the week after the
big flood in Atlanta.

3820
03:10:12,080 --> 03:10:14,800
No rental cars.
So I I.

3821
03:10:14,800 --> 03:10:16,720
Have.
I'm I'm off the ship.

3822
03:10:17,000 --> 03:10:21,320
So I missed the Old Dominion
game because I get on the plane,

3823
03:10:21,360 --> 03:10:27,160
planes, on the tarmac and.
We we 3. 4 hours delayed.

3824
03:10:27,840 --> 03:10:29,240
I'm like, I'm not missing
kickoff.

3825
03:10:29,240 --> 03:10:32,120
I'll just go back home.
I've already missed the Hokie

3826
03:10:32,120 --> 03:10:33,760
walk.
I still got to get to Charlotte,

3827
03:10:33,760 --> 03:10:35,680
drive 2 1/2 hours.
I'm going to miss everything,

3828
03:10:36,160 --> 03:10:39,320
leave me off the plane.
So all of that has happened.

3829
03:10:39,320 --> 03:10:41,200
We get to Atlanta and then this
happens.

3830
03:10:42,120 --> 03:10:43,240
So I'm like, I'm from the
missing.

3831
03:10:43,320 --> 03:10:46,720
So both games are kicked off.
So we go to a bar like I'm

3832
03:10:46,720 --> 03:10:50,800
outside, Callas tells me.
We we get over to the bar, we go

3833
03:10:50,800 --> 03:10:52,760
to the sports bar and I got both
games.

3834
03:10:52,760 --> 03:10:55,000
I got the Florida State game on.
I got the Marshall game on

3835
03:10:55,440 --> 03:10:59,760
current scores right away.
So people in there going crazy.

3836
03:10:59,840 --> 03:11:05,400
Hey, high five, my boy pulls up.
Mario pulls up in a truck.

3837
03:11:05,400 --> 03:11:08,200
He's like meet me outside.
I'll be damned.

3838
03:11:08,200 --> 03:11:10,280
We ain't come out of this way
and we ain't watching no gaming

3839
03:11:10,280 --> 03:11:12,480
goddamn bar.
So we drive all the way to

3840
03:11:12,480 --> 03:11:14,320
Clemson.
We get to Clemson at the end of

3841
03:11:14,320 --> 03:11:16,280
the fourth quarter.
I'm.

3842
03:11:16,280 --> 03:11:17,960
Literally there.
Just for the overtime?

3843
03:11:20,120 --> 03:11:22,480
I get to see my.
Son going on the bus.

3844
03:11:23,840 --> 03:11:27,640
I've watched the game on my damn
phone, Currents game on the

3845
03:11:27,640 --> 03:11:29,680
phone as I'm trying to get in
the stadium.

3846
03:11:29,680 --> 03:11:32,160
Wow.
See the end of the game.

3847
03:11:32,160 --> 03:11:35,640
They win.
Get on the bus, we drive back to

3848
03:11:35,640 --> 03:11:39,160
Atlanta, go to the cigar bar,
have a great time, miss our

3849
03:11:39,160 --> 03:11:40,560
flight.
The next morning we had two good

3850
03:11:40,560 --> 03:11:45,360
retires.
Got to get another flight.

3851
03:11:45,440 --> 03:11:48,040
Those my ride or die dudes.
That's the kicky crew.

3852
03:11:48,040 --> 03:11:50,280
I love that, I told.
Them I'm going to.

3853
03:11:50,320 --> 03:11:52,720
Be able to have a good time so
they.

3854
03:11:52,720 --> 03:11:55,160
Like.
Are we drunk with y'all We need

3855
03:11:55,160 --> 03:11:57,080
to be on the show We drunk with
no.

3856
03:11:58,440 --> 03:11:59,200
Doubt we?
Drinking.

3857
03:11:59,840 --> 03:12:01,600
So they've been drinking.
With us the whole time.

3858
03:12:02,280 --> 03:12:03,320
Good.
Well, the kicking.

3859
03:12:03,320 --> 03:12:04,960
Crew.
Is formally invited to the

3860
03:12:04,960 --> 03:12:06,960
tailgate at the at the military
boat.

3861
03:12:06,960 --> 03:12:09,520
So and they will be.
They they will be in the

3862
03:12:09,640 --> 03:12:11,640
building slide.
Well, y'all make.

3863
03:12:12,000 --> 03:12:14,000
Y'all make sure y'all pull a
little lookout for your boy.

3864
03:12:14,040 --> 03:12:16,920
I'll be, I'll be.
I don't know how I'm gonna work

3865
03:12:16,920 --> 03:12:17,760
that day.
I'm just.

3866
03:12:17,880 --> 03:12:19,400
I'm just Chris.
Chris, it's.

3867
03:12:19,440 --> 03:12:22,320
On Wednesday, Chris, nobody's
going to.

3868
03:12:22,400 --> 03:12:23,360
Take that back.
Take it back.

3869
03:12:23,360 --> 03:12:27,320
Take it back.
Chris the other day was on tally

3870
03:12:27,600 --> 03:12:29,440
space, sleeping.
Shit.

3871
03:12:30,040 --> 03:12:31,080
Bitten.
True.

3872
03:12:31,120 --> 03:12:34,680
Oh my God, Chris.
Holy shit.

3873
03:12:35,240 --> 03:12:37,080
You weren't fucking testifying,
man.

3874
03:12:38,800 --> 03:12:43,040
Listen, man.
I I I it's just to me to me and

3875
03:12:43,040 --> 03:12:47,840
and I I know y'all y'all are in
it but that went went that was

3876
03:12:47,840 --> 03:12:51,400
just such a big time for us and
and guys going what we're trying

3877
03:12:51,400 --> 03:12:55,080
to do and the direction we're
trying to grow in and and I I

3878
03:12:55,080 --> 03:12:58,240
just I get mad when I see so
many kids in so many different

3879
03:12:58,240 --> 03:13:00,400
situations.
You know, like I said, that big

3880
03:13:00,400 --> 03:13:04,240
thing when and I love Drake,
Brock as a guy, as a man.

3881
03:13:04,440 --> 03:13:09,760
But when he came and raped,
raped my state in 2022, I, I, I,

3882
03:13:09,960 --> 03:13:11,320
I'll say, I'll say this
personally.

3883
03:13:11,480 --> 03:13:15,560
I was talking to my wife the
other day and Teon Holloway came

3884
03:13:15,560 --> 03:13:17,280
to me.
He played with Keelan and Green

3885
03:13:17,280 --> 03:13:21,160
Run and he wanted to decommit
from North Carolina.

3886
03:13:22,600 --> 03:13:24,760
And.
He said to me, I don't know if I

3887
03:13:24,760 --> 03:13:26,960
should go.
And I was like, well, why don't

3888
03:13:26,960 --> 03:13:28,960
you want to go?
He's like, well, I don't know if

3889
03:13:28,960 --> 03:13:31,960
I'm being able to fit there now.
Unbeknownst to anybody else.

3890
03:13:31,960 --> 03:13:33,520
He was hurt, He had a bad
shoulder.

3891
03:13:33,760 --> 03:13:38,200
So he took that year to get his
shoulder right and be able to

3892
03:13:38,200 --> 03:13:40,560
play.
So now he, he took that year,

3893
03:13:40,560 --> 03:13:43,000
got his body right, learn some
different things and now he's

3894
03:13:43,000 --> 03:13:45,120
going to Louisville.
And that's fine for me because I

3895
03:13:45,120 --> 03:13:47,200
want him to go and get done with
need to get done.

3896
03:13:47,400 --> 03:13:49,760
But I told him at that point,
don't decommit.

3897
03:13:49,960 --> 03:13:51,880
I said if you decommit now and
they find out you're hurt,

3898
03:13:52,040 --> 03:13:54,200
you're going to drop down,
you're not going to get the same

3899
03:13:54,200 --> 03:13:56,160
training table as going to the
next thing.

3900
03:13:56,480 --> 03:14:01,480
And so I think like coach, like
Kevin does you, you take pride

3901
03:14:01,480 --> 03:14:03,720
in, try to make sure these kids
make the right decisions.

3902
03:14:03,880 --> 03:14:07,680
But when you know on on the back
end that certain things are a

3903
03:14:07,680 --> 03:14:09,800
certain kind of way, it pisses
you off.

3904
03:14:10,000 --> 03:14:13,200
So I'll just stay here right now
and then put it it's tape, this

3905
03:14:13,200 --> 03:14:15,120
recording.
I'm always going to have a

3906
03:14:15,120 --> 03:14:19,480
certain kind of feeling about
Chris Cole not staying and going

3907
03:14:19,480 --> 03:14:21,320
to Virginia Tech.
I'm always going to feel like

3908
03:14:21,440 --> 03:14:24,960
because I know the guy who
helped helped put that put that

3909
03:14:24,960 --> 03:14:28,160
together.
It always pisses me off because

3910
03:14:28,200 --> 03:14:30,440
he did that I.
I will.

3911
03:14:30,440 --> 03:14:32,520
I will.
Say that, and if anybody ever

3912
03:14:33,320 --> 03:14:37,800
want to know the back story to
it, I take I take pride.

3913
03:14:37,920 --> 03:14:42,240
Yeah, I take pride in any, any
family that ask me anything

3914
03:14:42,240 --> 03:14:46,000
about this recruiting thing.
I will tell them exactly what

3915
03:14:46,000 --> 03:14:48,680
they need to do.
But I think, Kevin, I know you

3916
03:14:48,680 --> 03:14:51,520
probably have it too, like
people, and you got two kids.

3917
03:14:51,800 --> 03:14:55,160
Shout out to Kevin 'cause he's
got he got a set, he got 2IN.

3918
03:14:55,200 --> 03:14:57,080
The portal too?
Yeah, two in the.

3919
03:14:57,280 --> 03:14:59,120
Yeah, two in the portal.
He got a daughter in college.

3920
03:14:59,240 --> 03:15:01,320
Too, yeah.
Your daughter in college, about

3921
03:15:01,440 --> 03:15:04,040
to be in college.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

3922
03:15:04,760 --> 03:15:07,440
We got, we got some.
We got some things I know.

3923
03:15:07,600 --> 03:15:09,080
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Got some stuff, Right.

3924
03:15:09,080 --> 03:15:11,120
We're just trying to get the.
Zero on the fee receipt.

3925
03:15:11,680 --> 03:15:16,480
There you go.
I I think.

3926
03:15:16,480 --> 03:15:19,680
I think what ends up happening
in Kevin contested is people

3927
03:15:19,680 --> 03:15:22,760
will look at you and say, oh,
your kid is at this point

3928
03:15:22,760 --> 03:15:24,080
because of this, that and the
third.

3929
03:15:24,120 --> 03:15:27,760
And a lot of times nobody gives
you any guidance in this.

3930
03:15:28,120 --> 03:15:30,840
You're walk.
You're like blind in this, so

3931
03:15:30,840 --> 03:15:33,280
people will tell you certain
stuff and it's not true.

3932
03:15:33,680 --> 03:15:36,040
And then when you get your kids
to a certain point, they just

3933
03:15:36,040 --> 03:15:38,040
think, oh, they just gave this
all to you.

3934
03:15:38,040 --> 03:15:42,280
Now nobody gave us shit.
Let it ride, Kevin.

3935
03:15:42,680 --> 03:15:43,920
Kevin, Can I say something real
quick?

3936
03:15:43,920 --> 03:15:48,120
I've been Kevin, to have two
kids at the collegiate football

3937
03:15:48,120 --> 03:15:49,280
level.
Man, kid.

3938
03:15:49,280 --> 03:15:51,000
Come on, man.
That's the level of.

3939
03:15:51,000 --> 03:15:54,960
College sports.
That is impressive, man.

3940
03:15:55,440 --> 03:15:59,800
Bow to you because three kids,
three Division One.

3941
03:15:59,840 --> 03:16:01,760
Athlete 3 Division.
Ridiculous.

3942
03:16:01,920 --> 03:16:03,520
Oh my God.
Ridiculous.

3943
03:16:03,720 --> 03:16:05,120
Insane 2 at.
Football.

3944
03:16:05,440 --> 03:16:07,880
That are doing things at
programs.

3945
03:16:07,920 --> 03:16:09,560
Yeah.
I mean football in general.

3946
03:16:09,560 --> 03:16:12,920
Having two at football in
general is ridiculous.

3947
03:16:12,920 --> 03:16:14,760
Have another one.
Ridiculous.

3948
03:16:15,080 --> 03:16:17,760
Having another one.
They're doing great stuff.

3949
03:16:19,040 --> 03:16:20,600
You my wife.
Is up there.

3950
03:16:20,600 --> 03:16:22,720
Saying his Mama?
Exactly.

3951
03:16:22,720 --> 03:16:24,560
Yeah.
No respect to her.

3952
03:16:25,240 --> 03:16:26,920
She's right.
No, don't.

3953
03:16:26,960 --> 03:16:28,880
Just respect you, Kevin said.
She's right.

3954
03:16:28,920 --> 03:16:30,800
She's right now.
Is she?

3955
03:16:30,880 --> 03:16:31,840
Right, that's right.
Dad.

3956
03:16:31,880 --> 03:16:34,360
Dad can, We didn't say.
Y'all this is like.

3957
03:16:34,800 --> 03:16:37,600
And I and I want to put this out
there because I know parents are

3958
03:16:37,600 --> 03:16:39,920
out there watching.
Like this?

3959
03:16:40,000 --> 03:16:44,200
Nil stuff.
We took we had a crash course in

3960
03:16:44,200 --> 03:16:46,520
January.
Baylor didn't do it.

3961
03:16:46,520 --> 03:16:49,280
And UTEP didn't do it.
We didn't know what it was.

3962
03:16:49,280 --> 03:16:52,680
All we knew was what we Googled
or.

3963
03:16:53,040 --> 03:16:55,560
What we had seen on.
Twitter, or what we had seen on

3964
03:16:55,560 --> 03:17:00,880
Internet in that first
conversation threw us off.

3965
03:17:01,320 --> 03:17:04,520
Like, I'm glad we wasn't on
Zoom, because we're.

3966
03:17:04,680 --> 03:17:05,160
Ready.
Yeah.

3967
03:17:05,560 --> 03:17:07,280
I didn't get that.
Oh, they don't.

3968
03:17:07,280 --> 03:17:09,640
Understand.
Because if we didn't, we don't

3969
03:17:09,640 --> 03:17:13,400
know what it is.
And I want these kids to

3970
03:17:13,400 --> 03:17:15,680
understand.
I tell all our kids, you know,

3971
03:17:15,680 --> 03:17:17,840
I'm in the Eastern area.
And I tell these kids, I mean,

3972
03:17:18,160 --> 03:17:20,720
you know, I still close to those
Shadow Creek guys.

3973
03:17:20,720 --> 03:17:22,480
I went to one of their signings
yesterday.

3974
03:17:22,800 --> 03:17:25,920
The other day, one of my D
lineman signed with University

3975
03:17:25,920 --> 03:17:30,760
Houston and I'm like, hey, when
it comes to this, nil you?

3976
03:17:30,760 --> 03:17:31,960
Need to.
Understand.

3977
03:17:33,320 --> 03:17:35,080
You need to think.
About taxes.

3978
03:17:36,720 --> 03:17:38,440
Don't.
Think about just the number.

3979
03:17:39,280 --> 03:17:42,640
Don't take all the long hanging
fruit that just want to pay you

3980
03:17:42,640 --> 03:17:45,480
for a deal, because every deal
is not a good deal for your

3981
03:17:45,480 --> 03:17:47,200
brand.
So.

3982
03:17:47,880 --> 03:17:50,600
Do some.
Homework behind it and have a

3983
03:17:50,600 --> 03:17:52,320
budget.
That's the that's.

3984
03:17:52,400 --> 03:17:53,840
So funny, you said.
I was just thinking.

3985
03:17:54,040 --> 03:17:55,880
About the tax thing today like
that.

3986
03:17:55,920 --> 03:17:57,600
Is the tax.
It's a huge thing.

3987
03:17:57,640 --> 03:17:59,800
I had to go talk.
I I called my tax.

3988
03:17:59,800 --> 03:18:02,200
Lady when Karen committed to
Virginia Tech.

3989
03:18:03,720 --> 03:18:06,040
Texas don't have state.
Tax, yeah, ain't got no state

3990
03:18:06,040 --> 03:18:07,520
tax.
Virginia got state tax.

3991
03:18:07,520 --> 03:18:08,440
I was.
Like show no.

3992
03:18:08,440 --> 03:18:11,000
Duty show no due.
Yeah, on my.

3993
03:18:11,000 --> 03:18:13,040
Account.
Hey, can you do you handle?

3994
03:18:13,240 --> 03:18:14,160
Yeah.
Tell me what this?

3995
03:18:14,360 --> 03:18:16,680
Tell me what this impacts us at.
Oh.

3996
03:18:16,920 --> 03:18:20,160
My God, can you?
Like and and then she had to

3997
03:18:20,160 --> 03:18:23,840
give us some guidance on, OK,
you got to do this, this and

3998
03:18:23,840 --> 03:18:27,840
this.
But these, I know a lot of kids

3999
03:18:27,840 --> 03:18:31,520
don't have that in their head
like I have Karen.

4000
03:18:31,520 --> 03:18:35,400
Like look, you got to think
about this before you purchase

4001
03:18:35,400 --> 03:18:37,840
this, understand the needs
versus wants.

4002
03:18:40,200 --> 03:18:41,640
Doing.
That and making them

4003
03:18:41,640 --> 03:18:44,800
accountable.
Like, OK, if you want this, yes,

4004
03:18:44,800 --> 03:18:46,360
you earn some.
Stuff.

4005
03:18:46,840 --> 03:18:48,480
I'm going to.
Make you pay it.

4006
03:18:48,480 --> 03:18:52,160
Back.
You want it earlier, then you

4007
03:18:52,160 --> 03:18:54,800
got to pay it back just because
you're on a budget.

4008
03:18:55,760 --> 03:18:57,240
So if you want it early.
Yeah, we can.

4009
03:18:57,240 --> 03:18:59,480
We can pay for it.
But then you're.

4010
03:18:59,480 --> 03:19:01,440
Going to pay for.
The next couple there's going

4011
03:19:01,520 --> 03:19:02,600
to.
Be some something on the back

4012
03:19:02,600 --> 03:19:04,240
end.
You got to pay it back.

4013
03:19:04,840 --> 03:19:08,280
So I need you to understand at
19 and 20.

4014
03:19:09,280 --> 03:19:10,280
How?
Money works.

4015
03:19:11,480 --> 03:19:12,440
And.
And and.

4016
03:19:12,440 --> 03:19:14,240
Get and talk to a financial
planner.

4017
03:19:14,240 --> 03:19:16,400
I was on the phone yesterday
with Goldman and Sachs.

4018
03:19:18,080 --> 03:19:21,080
You got to have a financial.
Planner like I need you to

4019
03:19:21,080 --> 03:19:24,240
understand how money works and I
don't.

4020
03:19:24,240 --> 03:19:28,640
I don't want you to squander.
The opportunities that.

4021
03:19:28,640 --> 03:19:31,520
You have?
When I left him at Virginia Tech

4022
03:19:31,560 --> 03:19:34,440
and I told both of them because
Jeremiah turned down more money

4023
03:19:34,440 --> 03:19:39,400
to go to Miami than get Florida
State, and I said look, I said

4024
03:19:39,400 --> 03:19:41,960
hey.
You chose this.

4025
03:19:42,080 --> 03:19:45,480
I said, And God has blessed you
with opportunity, and he's

4026
03:19:45,480 --> 03:19:45,960
paved.
The.

4027
03:19:45,960 --> 03:19:49,560
Way for you to only think about
schooling football.

4028
03:19:52,240 --> 03:19:55,320
Don't squander.
It away the best thing, Karen.

4029
03:19:55,320 --> 03:19:57,920
Karen got MVP at the team
banquet or whatever.

4030
03:19:58,800 --> 03:20:00,680
But when he sent me.
His, his.

4031
03:20:00,840 --> 03:20:02,360
I say report card.
Old school.

4032
03:20:02,360 --> 03:20:03,840
They don't do report card.
Right, right, right, right.

4033
03:20:03,960 --> 03:20:05,360
Right.
Text me the report.

4034
03:20:05,360 --> 03:20:09,120
Card doesn't mean they were
laughing, 'cause I was, I had to

4035
03:20:09,120 --> 03:20:13,440
like I had a moment, 'cause he,
he had four point O to get all a

4036
03:20:13,440 --> 03:20:15,160
yeah.
Yeah, and I'm like.

4037
03:20:15,160 --> 03:20:16,760
Dude, that's better than the
MVP.

4038
03:20:16,880 --> 03:20:18,280
Yeah, it is crazy because.
You went to a.

4039
03:20:18,280 --> 03:20:19,960
Whole new state you went on the.
East.

4040
03:20:19,960 --> 03:20:21,520
Coast, you.
Played.

4041
03:20:21,720 --> 03:20:24,920
You went through all that stuff
and you went 15 hours and got a

4042
03:20:24,920 --> 03:20:27,160
four point O You made exactly
And you know, you know what's

4043
03:20:27,160 --> 03:20:30,160
playing the team is dude.
Kevin Well, Kevin, Kevin, he

4044
03:20:30,160 --> 03:20:32,440
made the deal.
No, we we we going, we going to

4045
03:20:32,440 --> 03:20:33,720
celebrate that shit.
No.

4046
03:20:34,160 --> 03:20:36,080
Everybody clap that up.
So.

4047
03:20:36,680 --> 03:20:38,080
Hey, you know.
What's crazy?

4048
03:20:38,320 --> 03:20:42,080
Too academic, All Big 12.
And when he left, I said

4049
03:20:42,200 --> 03:20:44,200
understand like that doesn't
change you.

4050
03:20:44,280 --> 03:20:46,640
I just expect you to be all
academic ACC.

4051
03:20:46,640 --> 03:20:49,520
It doesn't matter.
Like make it happen.

4052
03:20:49,880 --> 03:20:53,240
So he's laughing, you know,
'cause that's how he is.

4053
03:20:53,240 --> 03:20:57,360
He's like, he said you told me
to make all academic ACC.

4054
03:20:57,360 --> 03:20:58,880
I just went over and made Dean's
list for you.

4055
03:20:59,720 --> 03:21:02,240
I'm like that's.
What?

4056
03:21:02,360 --> 03:21:03,680
She goes in the.
Corner now to.

4057
03:21:04,400 --> 03:21:05,800
Your bow.
You know what's crazy too?

4058
03:21:06,320 --> 03:21:10,520
If you go look at Sam Brumfield
when they was talking to him

4059
03:21:10,880 --> 03:21:14,560
when he was committing, they was
asking him, you know, what made

4060
03:21:14,560 --> 03:21:17,920
you think Virginia Tech?
And he kept saying I'm thinking

4061
03:21:17,920 --> 03:21:21,000
about life after football.
And I think he was a fourth one

4062
03:21:21,000 --> 03:21:23,520
of those kids, too.
You know what I'm saying?

4063
03:21:23,920 --> 03:21:27,680
When you Yeah, that's crazy.
When you have leaders in your

4064
03:21:27,680 --> 03:21:32,280
program that think about stuff
like that, it it does matter on

4065
03:21:32,280 --> 03:21:34,160
the field, but stuff like that
matters as well.

4066
03:21:34,160 --> 03:21:38,240
So when you get high level
character kids like that, your

4067
03:21:38,240 --> 03:21:40,040
program's going in the right
direction.

4068
03:21:40,040 --> 03:21:42,000
So that's awesome, man.
That's awesome to hear.

4069
03:21:42,000 --> 03:21:43,920
I didn't even know that, man.
Yeah.

4070
03:21:44,120 --> 03:21:46,320
That's amazing.
That's dope, that.

4071
03:21:48,000 --> 03:21:48,640
Is so dope.
Hey.

4072
03:21:48,800 --> 03:21:50,800
Mama Jeremiah graduated I.
Got to put him.

4073
03:21:50,920 --> 03:21:53,320
Out there, too, Jeremiah
graduated Florida State last.

4074
03:21:54,360 --> 03:21:55,800
Yeah, he did.
I saw that.

4075
03:21:55,840 --> 03:21:57,360
Yeah, he.
Did shout out.

4076
03:21:57,480 --> 03:22:00,400
Jeremiah.
Yeah, I told Kyrie that when I

4077
03:22:00,400 --> 03:22:02,360
saw him, I said, yo man, shout
out to your brother, Bradley.

4078
03:22:02,400 --> 03:22:05,720
He looked at me.
He was like, hey, you all over

4079
03:22:05,720 --> 03:22:07,480
the place.
I say, dude, that's huge.

4080
03:22:07,640 --> 03:22:10,520
Don't think he's big.
Hey, he was getting.

4081
03:22:10,520 --> 03:22:13,480
A lot of he was getting a lot
of, a lot of in season shout

4082
03:22:13,480 --> 03:22:15,680
outs too, so I appreciate that
he was he.

4083
03:22:16,120 --> 03:22:18,680
Was I appreciate.
Jeremiah was getting a lot of

4084
03:22:18,680 --> 03:22:20,960
fucking accolades and that was
amazing.

4085
03:22:20,960 --> 03:22:24,800
I love that, Yeah.
We got, we got, we got to get.

4086
03:22:24,840 --> 03:22:27,320
We got to give Mama drones or
flowers so she don't

4087
03:22:39,280 --> 03:22:45,640
jump on me.
So 2 for two, man Virginia Tech

4088
03:22:45,640 --> 03:22:47,320
fans.
Love, love themselves and

4089
03:22:47,360 --> 03:22:49,360
softballs.
So we're we're in on that.

4090
03:22:49,760 --> 03:22:50,480
We are.
Hey.

4091
03:22:50,760 --> 03:22:52,240
Man.
That's that's right.

4092
03:22:52,320 --> 03:22:53,360
I'm.
I'm gonna say something.

4093
03:22:54,160 --> 03:22:56,720
Yep, I'm wasting.
Curtis.

4094
03:22:56,920 --> 03:22:58,600
No shit.
Welcome.

4095
03:22:59,120 --> 03:23:01,360
Go ahead, Curtis.
Go ahead, drunk Curtis.

4096
03:23:01,400 --> 03:23:04,320
Hey hey y'all.
Y'all trying to get on my ass

4097
03:23:04,320 --> 03:23:05,000
out like.
Kyle, let's laugh.

4098
03:23:05,000 --> 03:23:06,360
Let's.
Laugh 'cause this time last

4099
03:23:06,520 --> 03:23:10,240
year, Curtis, I was like 1/5 of
Evan White label into this

4100
03:23:10,240 --> 03:23:12,440
plastered.
He was yeah, I was done.

4101
03:23:12,440 --> 03:23:13,840
I was done.
I was done.

4102
03:23:13,840 --> 03:23:17,040
I had a great time.
Tonight.

4103
03:23:17,760 --> 03:23:22,520
We have went three hours, 25
minutes, yeah.

4104
03:23:23,200 --> 03:23:26,320
Nobody.
'S going to listen to this whole

4105
03:23:26,320 --> 03:23:28,640
thing, you know?
What they will, it's so.

4106
03:23:29,000 --> 03:23:30,880
Crazy, I'm telling you that,
believe it or not.

4107
03:23:30,920 --> 03:23:32,520
We have a like.
Kevin said we.

4108
03:23:32,520 --> 03:23:34,720
Going to chop in the screw, 50
people that.

4109
03:23:34,720 --> 03:23:36,240
Have not turned off tonight.
That's.

4110
03:23:37,560 --> 03:23:38,120
Dope man.
That's.

4111
03:23:39,000 --> 03:23:42,160
Fine, we got. 50 heads that have
been hanging with us the whole

4112
03:23:42,160 --> 03:23:44,760
time.
That's different.

4113
03:23:44,960 --> 03:23:45,640
That's.
Different.

4114
03:23:46,720 --> 03:23:48,720
We got last year and we.
Went.

4115
03:23:49,280 --> 03:23:50,800
We went less than this.
Yep.

4116
03:23:50,960 --> 03:23:55,320
I'm feeling good, Chris.
You have dealt two of those

4117
03:23:55,320 --> 03:23:57,560
tequilas down since I've been
here.

4118
03:23:57,720 --> 03:24:01,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If we go, if we go again, I

4119
03:24:01,360 --> 03:24:02,520
might have to finish this
bottle.

4120
03:24:02,880 --> 03:24:04,160
Kevin Feeling.
Good on the.

4121
03:24:04,440 --> 03:24:05,400
I'm good.
Hey, Kevin.

4122
03:24:06,160 --> 03:24:07,480
Flex.
It a little bit.

4123
03:24:07,480 --> 03:24:08,760
I like that.
I like Kevin.

4124
03:24:08,760 --> 03:24:12,480
Flex it, Kevin, Brian, let me
see what you done.

4125
03:24:12,520 --> 03:24:15,280
How much damage.
I put away all the Donnies, man.

4126
03:24:15,280 --> 03:24:18,400
I put away all the Donnies.
Some six teams tally, tally.

4127
03:24:18,400 --> 03:24:20,600
Let me see what you've done.
I don't for.

4128
03:24:21,040 --> 03:24:22,760
A minute here.
Did too bad.

4129
03:24:23,120 --> 03:24:27,240
Man, my boy has been talking
about Tally.

4130
03:24:29,600 --> 03:24:34,800
They've been killing.
Tally been killing.

4131
03:24:34,920 --> 03:24:40,280
The God damn, I finished a
little bit.

4132
03:24:40,440 --> 03:24:45,600
Of that, Yeah, man, Robbie.
Roddy, I'm having a good time.

4133
03:24:45,600 --> 03:24:48,280
Robert.
He's always flexing on the new

4134
03:24:48,280 --> 03:24:52,080
beard man.
He is the he with the beers is

4135
03:24:52,080 --> 03:24:54,600
like, fucking whatever.
This is Brian.

4136
03:24:54,600 --> 03:24:57,160
You were doing the.
Hardywood, right, I've been.

4137
03:24:57,160 --> 03:24:59,880
Rolling the.
Hardywood I've got the Hardywood

4138
03:24:59,880 --> 03:25:02,760
and Son of the Universe I've
been I've been repping Richmond

4139
03:25:02,760 --> 03:25:03,800
hard.
Yeah, this is.

4140
03:25:04,080 --> 03:25:06,760
The Hardywood Christmas morning.
So I had to do the Christmas.

4141
03:25:06,760 --> 03:25:08,320
I love Christmas.
Morning, man.

4142
03:25:09,240 --> 03:25:11,160
Christmas.
Morning is good shit, I've got

4143
03:25:11,160 --> 03:25:13,640
the the bourbon.
GBS.

4144
03:25:14,200 --> 03:25:16,760
And then I've got the sin of the
universe.

4145
03:25:16,760 --> 03:25:18,320
Donnie.
Dude, those are some good.

4146
03:25:18,320 --> 03:25:21,120
Ones and old Granddad.
You're drinking old Granddad.

4147
03:25:21,240 --> 03:25:22,600
Curtis.
I thought I heard Curtis is

4148
03:25:22,600 --> 03:25:24,200
bringing old.
Granddad man, follow me.

4149
03:25:24,200 --> 03:25:26,320
Back on Twitter, I'll.
Highlight that old granddad.

4150
03:25:26,760 --> 03:25:29,280
That old granddad that turned
him into my granddaddy.

4151
03:25:29,280 --> 03:25:31,560
Listen.
Yeah, we.

4152
03:25:31,560 --> 03:25:33,240
Know.
Gee, we see you, Kevin.

4153
03:25:34,600 --> 03:25:36,400
Yes, Sir, I.
Appreciate y'all joining us.

4154
03:25:36,440 --> 03:25:37,760
PBI.
Appreciate you.

4155
03:25:37,880 --> 03:25:39,000
Thank you.
For having us thank you for.

4156
03:25:39,000 --> 03:25:41,240
Having us appreciate y'all.
Joining us.

4157
03:25:42,040 --> 03:25:44,040
Robbie.
Hey, I love you, man.

4158
03:25:44,280 --> 03:25:48,400
Second behind me in my wedding.
Look, I love.

4159
03:25:48,400 --> 03:25:52,440
All y'all and it can't be
understated how important Keelan

4160
03:25:52,440 --> 03:25:56,440
Adams and Kyron Jones are.
This program they are.

4161
03:25:56,440 --> 03:25:58,920
God sends to the Hokie Nation,
and they are not.

4162
03:25:58,920 --> 03:26:00,600
Take that for granted.
We're not.

4163
03:26:01,120 --> 03:26:06,520
That wraps up this episode of
the Boundary Corner Podcast with

4164
03:26:06,600 --> 03:26:10,360
myself, Curtis Wilson, Brian
Siegler, Jonathan Calley, Robbie

4165
03:26:10,360 --> 03:26:19,760
Compton, Kevin Drones, Chris
Lester, PB Dan from the Terra

4166
03:26:19,960 --> 03:26:23,480
Don't.
Don't.

4167
03:26:25,560 --> 03:26:27,360
We.
We swan baby.

4168
03:26:27,520 --> 03:26:30,000
We swan.
I need one of.

4169
03:26:30,200 --> 03:26:30,720
Them.
Oh.

4170
03:26:32,360 --> 03:26:33,960
Baby.
We leave me a tear.

4171
03:26:34,200 --> 03:26:36,280
Donkey shirt.
Hydraulic money.

4172
03:26:36,400 --> 03:26:38,360
Shop Check out my.
Brother Jason Long.

4173
03:26:38,360 --> 03:26:42,920
Jason Long, music.com We
appreciate you all for joining.

4174
03:26:42,920 --> 03:26:45,720
It's been over 50.
We just did.

4175
03:26:45,720 --> 03:26:47,800
Below 50.
Damn y'all, why y'all got to go

4176
03:26:47,800 --> 03:26:49,280
below 50?
We have been.

4177
03:26:49,280 --> 03:26:51,480
They know we're going to get.
Off they're trying to go.

4178
03:26:51,680 --> 03:26:53,680
They're like.
Y'all all drunk as shit.

4179
03:26:53,680 --> 03:26:55,440
We can't.
They are correct.

4180
03:26:55,440 --> 03:26:58,440
Appreciate everybody joining us
tonight.

4181
03:26:58,520 --> 03:27:07,040
Jeremy and Dwight, who had a hop
off as always, let's go oh.

4182
03:27:08,080 --> 03:27:10,600
Dee.
The.

Dwight Vick

Hokie Legend/Vicktory Life Founder

Dwight is a proud graduate of Virginia Tech. While at Virginia Tech, Dwight played for the legendary Coach Frank Beamer as an offensive lineman from 1994-1999.

In an effort to help youth achieve their dreams of becoming successful, he created Vicktory Life in 2018 and works as the Director of Student Development. In this role, he provides therapeutic mentoring to at risk youth focuses on goal setting, career development, time management, and life skills.

Robert Compton

Coach and Football Camp Evaluator

Coach Robert Compton has been a high school football coach in the states of North Carolina and Virginia for 15 years. He coached current NFL talents such as Kentavius Street and Cornell Powell while at J.H. Rose High School in Greenville, NC. He is currently serving as defensive coordinator at North Wilkesboro High School in North Carolina. Coach Compton has also served as an evaluator at collegiate football camps throughout the mid-Atlantic.

Jeremy Counts

Lord King of Blacksburg

Lord Jeremy Counts is a Virginia Tech alumnus and local pharmacist. He wears many hats in the Blacksburg community: Virginia Tech donor, Hokie non-revenue sports sponsor, Hokie Sports podcast sponsor, and Blacksburg small business owner. His rooted interest in various elements of the Virginia Tech athletics department and the Blacksburg business community gives him a unique perspective on the decision making process of university.