State of the Program 2022
Boundary Corner Podcast
State of the Program 2022

In this episode we are joined by friends and fellow Hokie fans Jonathan Talley and Dr. Lord Jeremy Counts for our annual State of the Program throwdown. We also discuss all the news coming out of Early Signing Day as the Hokies look to put a bow on the first official class of the Brent Pry Era. Please mind the explicit label...this one gets spicy.

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And welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast, along with my

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partner, Ryan sieg lie, and
Curtis Wilson, and this episode

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is presented by dr.
Lourdes Jeremy counts at the

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Main Street Pharmacy in
Blacksburg, if you love this

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podcast, if you love the Hokies
the town of Blacksburg, make

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sure you are supporting the Main
Street Pharmacy.

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When you make your way to town,
Whether you need prescriptions a

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tube of toothpaste of just want
to stop and say, hello, let

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Jeremy is team, take care of
you, the money you spend at Main

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Street.
Pharmacy goes towards the things

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you support and love.
So next time, you're in

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Blacksburg head on down to 301,
South Main Street, tell them

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Curtis and Brian sent you.
And since we're starting there,

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just right.
Let's go ahead.

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He pays the bills.
He fills your pills.

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It's dr.
Lord, Jeremy counts.

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Yeah, what's up guys?
What?

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Sup buddy, how you doing
tonight?

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Wallace, how you doing fucking
great?

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If that goddamn, we get to talk
about that with that.

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We thought this was going to be
a nice little little fun segue

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into the football stuff but you
know life throws us some curves,

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right?
I was in a good mood.

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I was like, yeah, have a good go
in.

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Everything's gonna be alright.
Fuck not good.

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We will talk about that in a few
minutes.

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I'll Matt, Neal love are joining
us but we got one more man in

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the Green Room.
Let's get this man in the king

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of the Hokie spaces.
The Space, Ace the space 8.

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Bring him home, bring him home,
bring him off, come on and with

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us go.
And where's that apple pie?

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Hi, boys, before we start
anything.

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Cheers, here's up, clink easier.
Click Keys Clank.

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Keys clink, he's good.
I had already win.

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We are about to start a
tradition.

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Unlike any other, any other, it
is the state of the program.

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Boundary Corner podcast Style.
With Jeremy with Tally.

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We're going to get into it but
before we get into it.

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Y'all gentlemen, how's everybody
doing?

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Y'all been doing good lately.
Doing good?

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Doing good man.
Working holiday time.

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Everybody wanting to spend
money.

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I'm trying to let him skip you
with me.

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Now, what I say it's the holiday
season, like it's a lot of

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traveling and what you had to
Rally around.

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Right.
You got some uh yeah I gotta get

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her all weekend.
I went back home to.

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Hey Sasha last weekend for my
parents and now I got to go to

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Raleigh this weekend and we're
Christmas is on a goddamn

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fucking weekend.
I hardly even get X off.

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This is just like a lot of
extended trips for me at this

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point.
My back to work nothing.

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I don't like this.
Put it on a Tuesday.

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Put it on a few years from that
Christmas is on Wednesday, The

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Sweet Spot.
Hey, here's your here's the

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upside.
New Year's Eve is on a Saturday

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and we know the main street
pharmacy is closed on Sundays.

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Yeah, so there's your upsets
you.

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I have no excuse to close.
Like I have the same Pace

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offense.
I normally do.

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I do he won't always do.
No different to me to have you

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all back on the show, as always.
And before we get into football,

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which we are and we got a lot to
unload with national Signing Day

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the season and all that we were
going to start with some quick

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basketball takes because before
tonight, the team was Ten and

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one.
The team was right.

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The team was rolling destroyed
Grambling State had some big

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wins.
And I think I still feel overall

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good about the team, but they
went up to Boston College in the

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County Center where Mi kyung
feel.

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I don't think it's Mike young.
I've no disrespect.

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I think James Johnson, steals,
Mike, young gets into Mi kyung's

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body when he goes up to be.
See because we cannot fucking

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win there.
It's all about marriage, it's

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awful and they weren't
ten-in-one, no Revenue, more

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11:1, excuse me, Lebanon one.
Now, lemon 211 and torching it,

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but we're looking through it
overall, it's been a good

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season.
We don't don't shit where not if

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this had been last year and we
had to take on this, so it was

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not good at all lemon to some
good wins a man in the right

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direction.
Rodney rice has been cleared to

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play but he for some reason
won't play which only anybody

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figure that out.
It sounds like they're just

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trying to hold him off to the
new year.

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But yeah, let that man, get
healthy.

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I will The thought we need him
gets goddamn fucking Boston

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College.
You wouldn't, you wouldn't think

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a know where that one bench
Point.

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Good.
Here's what I want to ask.

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I looked at the stat line
tonight and just overall, Darius

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Maddox is starting.
He's 415 tonight.

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He's shooting roughly under 10%
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everywhere.
He continued start and I know

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he's good on defenseman, he's an
athletic kid.

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But last season, it felt like we
let him do this, and we weren't

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winning, can they continue to do
this?

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I mean, what if they shall do
ya'll say listen, you got to

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come off the bench or you got to
lower the volume, it's hard to

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say because we don't, you know,
you don't see the work that they

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put in every day and the
rotations and things like that,

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but it's can't.
You gotta, you gotta change

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something up.
He's not shooting well right

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now, so you gotta find a way to
get him out.

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On cause you're about to get
into the heart of your schedule

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and you definitely want to be
doing better moving into the new

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year and you know, getting close
to the tournament time.

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So I mean what he 4:15 and go
get it.

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Yeah.
Girl like Russell Westbrook, you

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know, he's got the shot.
That's the bad thing that I

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that's probably why they keep
riding him on because you know

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the shot is there, right?
But right now we just saying

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fallen and even with volume
tonight, I mean that's that's a

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lot of volume tonight, that's
not just, you know, shooting

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bad.
With a shot that shooting bad

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with double that almost.
I think he might have had the

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most shots.
Huh.

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Go ahead Jeremy.
He's in a slump and he was in

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the swamp last year.
I mean, if you remember Hunter

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went through a slump to and he
got out of it like there's just

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Ebbs and flows to some of this
and I trust Mi kyung more than

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any of us true but absolutely.
You know what?

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The first two or three shots.
He's not pulling the trigger

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anymore.
Yeah, you just we all need it

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really bad.
He knows he's missing his like

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this, not my night, I need to
move the ball.

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If he's had, he's gonna keep it
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If he's not he's gonna
facilitate Darius.

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Just keeps you just keep
shooting.

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We saw him a couple games back
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No kind of put us over the top.
So you know it's kind of you

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take you take the good with the
bad but when it's that bad it's

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and you taking that many shots
just it definitely hurts the

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team.
And you know when everybody else

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is playing solo energy tonight,
you know, you can't have a guy

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that stopping the ball and
taking that many shots that

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aren't falling in True.
I agree an MBA silly.

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I mean he had a good had a few
good shots but I mean he wasn't

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hot either.
I mean that no one was really

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hot.
Must had a few good moves, the

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do look missing a long way.
It is sloppy and flat.

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That's all that was.
Well the funny part is we talked

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about that for game stretch.
Where's what?

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Minnesota Carolina Dane,
Oklahoma state will.

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Like, we can just get through
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We went for know, and then we do
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Frustrated, by the way, it's not
a cakewalk.

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I mean, weights coming off that
win vs Duke last night.

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Right?
Before our eyes deceive me.

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They beat Duke last night.
So we got them right.

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Got to go on the road against
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So, you know, they're going to
be feeling themselves, hopefully

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too much.
Hopefully we can take care of

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them but I think only they came
looking for some Now, they got a

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little little bit of gas, so
we'll see what happens.

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We'll see.
We got, they get the boys, get a

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10-day break, wake will be a
little bit better of an

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atmosphere, but hopefully Rodney
rice please at game.

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Hopefully, it's our New Year's
Eve gift.

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Other than, you know, getting
really drunk and feeling really

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good for that night.
All right?

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So let's, let's take a pause
before we get into the football.

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What's everybody drinking?
My, let's do a roll call.

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Apple pie moonshine.
Jeremy got Jameson.

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Get Ben ipas pacing Curtis Curt,
let you go.

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Curtis is got the Kirkland 12
year old scotch Boys.

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We roll a little little Evan,
White Label the night.

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It's going down, smooth, It's
Going Down.

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Smooth is always good stuff
goes.

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So there's our roles are never
black people know you don't ever

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drink.
Nothing that's got two white

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name's Evan Williams.
We've actually got some roll

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calls.
Y'all from the chat here?

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Put that up there, everybody,
Matt Spring, by the way, we

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would want, it's almost it's
almost

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Facebook.
Replies and we will see what

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you're drinking was this.
But let's jump over to football

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and this is kind of going to be
a season retrospective, but

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let's go here before we before
we jump into what happened this

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season, I'll start with Jeremy
here.

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What was your preseason record
expectations?

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Where were you thinking?
This team was going to go you

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live in Blacksburg, you probably
hear more chatter than we do but

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what did you feel going into
season?

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I I mean I was hopefully we're
going to get six or seven wins.

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I mean that the idea of us not
going to a bowl game is foreign

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to me.
So I thought that we were going

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to come in, you know, it at
least, you know, get to a ball

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game.
That that was just my general

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feeling, you know, but we also
didn't have any kind of idea

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about what we're about to see.
So, All right.

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Tally, what was your preseason?
Expectations.

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So I put a tweet out before the
season just like what a funny

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picture and said if he it
probably gets us to a bowl game.

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Then he needs to have a statue
made.

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I seen it.
I mean, wasn't trying to be -

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just looking at had no
expectations.

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Yeah, you know you said hey I'm
going to watch it and, you know,

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I want to win but I just want to
see some improvement because

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they've been You have a new head
coach, new offensive

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coordinator, do the defensive
coordinator, new all positions,

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just about all, we knew so it
was just too much unexpected.

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I mean, too much unknown for me
to be like I know we're going to

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go ahead and win game.
So I thought maybe five wins is

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what about thought we would get.
But of course, you always like

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you said, you're always hoping
that I know we don't make a bowl

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game because it's like so
unexpected for us not to I'm

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going to go ahead.
We own hours here on the

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boundary Corner podcast.
I wouldn't stupid and said, nine

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and three.
Y'all don't throw things and so

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we would, but we threw it in
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So we said I said 93, I knew he
had some talent.

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I thought the usually you get to
spark with the new coaching

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staff, but we did have a caveat
And I'm going to go ahead and

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say it was our caveat was as we
said five and seven.

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And that was saying if things
don't click right, well

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obviously things didn't click
right.

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Some players got hurt that could
not get hurt.

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And the biggest one was Malachi,
Malachi getting hurt.

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The beginning of the season was
an absolute just it crippled the

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offense, which was already in a
bad position.

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It hurt to start.
Then obviously it hurt to climb

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kind of, you know, as we wrapped
up things, so it was kind of

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hurting on the front end and the
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I mean, we said five wins was
probably kind of the door

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borderline floor of this team
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healthy Squad you probably get
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Maybe, I don't know.
But we played in what three or

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four close games, small wire
place all the one lost them all.

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that's on the coaching.
Absolutely.

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But we switch schemes in the
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We did I mean that's one of the
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you know what what are we
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year?
And I mean I've got to I've got

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a bunch of thoughts on that
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down pretty heavy.
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switching schemes with through
and it's so hard.

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It's so hard.
To change course in the middle

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of a season like that because
number one, you already had a

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new scheme that you recommend in
the start the year players

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weren't even fully acclimated to
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And all of a sudden you're
switching it up, you're changing

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things and I give them a some
kudos for not going full bore

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into a completely different
direction.

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It was more like tweaks and
modifications versus a full-bore

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swap their but at the same time,
It's a struggle to do that much

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in the middle of the Season.
Normally you like to add two or

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three plays to your playbook a
week, it's kind of you progress

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through this through the
schedule, right, whether it's

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specific to that team or whether
it's just you adding to the

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Playbook to get more Dynamic and
having to make some wholesale

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changes in the middle of the
year, is a pretty big ass for a

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team.
But that's just the, in some way

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it was a miscalculation to start
the year that we thought.

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We could lean on a power running
game, work play action and think

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that that was going to be enough
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Hmm.
It's true.

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It's true but at least here's
the one thing you can already

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say about this coaching staff
and it did not take long as

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they're not afraid to quickly
make the adjustments.

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They're not afraid to say this
bull shit ain't working.

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We have to try something
different.

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And I think, yes, for us
following this program as close

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as we do the prior coaching
staff, I would literally die on

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a hill.
Like, like this is not working.

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We do what we do.
I'm just tell me how and ring

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the bell.
Every time someone says he gets

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it.
Yes.

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So for this season, what was
some of the good that you saw?

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And I mean 3 and 8 season?
That's I'm asking a lot of you

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to lead off for many the main
thing I guess is because when

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you look at every game I made,
it was easy for these kids to

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quit is either for the coaching
staff to quit.

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But watching every game, I never
seen quit.

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It, you know I guess that's the
good that you seen.

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You seem that the kids didn't
quit on the coaching staff

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coaching staff, really didn't
quit on the kids because you

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gotta think we did win three
games.

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I think we would have won four
if we had to play UVA data for

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win season, but I mean, we lost
a Carolina State on the road.

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By one point, we lost a Georgia
Tech at home by one point, we

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lost a Miami at home by six
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I mean, it was plenty of games
that could have been a little

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different than they were had.
We had a couple of players.

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So, again, I mean, I just think
that the fight was there.

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So I think that was good for the
season.

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About you.
Jeremy.

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What you got?
I mean, I had several points.

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I feel like we were coming
together a whole lot better on

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offense.
For the end.

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We switch it up in the middle
and it seemed to start working

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toward the end of the season.
I thought that was pretty good.

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Lane was always rocking no
matter what we had everyone

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coming out everyone supporting
that can only go on for so long

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that we have a very loyal fan
base.

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We do you know I think we got a
good three years of that if it's

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time fix it three years ago To
see some fall off, but I believe

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in our fan base and I believe in
our team, I'm felt like the

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running back.
Play started coming together a

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little bit more.
We saw some flashes.

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I mean, Keshawn King looks so
good, in some games and then of

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course, you'd have like a
fumbles and shit.

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But I mean, there were some
flashes and one of my biggest

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things was the defense.
It wasn't like a leader anything

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but it kept us in ball games
like if we would have had a

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decent offense like In some of
those games are headed just

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click a little more like it did
toward the end of the season.

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We would have had more wins.
Yeah.

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And we talked about it all year
the defense kept us in games at

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least for three quarters.
Yeah pretty much the whole

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fucking year.
Yeah.

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Which I mean that's that's as
much as you can ask especially

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how often the offense was given
the ball back to the defense.

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So I think that was ever mark
See that the defense can hold up

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against even some of the better
competition.

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The ACC.
I know we didn't play Clemson,

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but we played kind of with two
of the best for in the ACC.

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If we're being honest, right and
held up pretty well against all

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of them but UNC on defense.
And I still look like you and

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see and say that that was just a
bad matchup because we probably

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had our worst cornerback
situation in that game having

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one out and and not having
delaying really playing

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significant snaps at that point.
So for Dre banging to have game

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like that again.
There he is.

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All right.
All his talents gone, all his

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talents gone.
I don't care how much money they

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throw at him.
He's got worse.

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The young players y'all.
The point.

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Y'all made a great seeing the
young players seeing, man,

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sword.
The lane immediately freshman

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All-American, right. 4247
immediately, kalai Lawson.

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I think he's figured out will,
and I sit there and I see

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glimpses of treatment treatment,
remain analyzed and will

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linebacker.
Jason, Keller a couple times,

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you know, some of the young'uns
McRae and Nelson, getting good

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play.
They're not there yet, but you

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saw them making good plays.
He's guys like strowman and to

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go along with the coaching
staff.

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Not quittin.
My other.

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Good is.
When they realized it wasn't

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working, they were like, okay,
it's not working.

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We need to change this.
We need to change his shit.

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We're not getting it done and to
do that in the middle of a

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season, it takes balls, it takes
balls from a head coach to say.

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It ain't working with changing
it.

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But then what about this?
You talked about Keshawn King

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fumbling.
How quick would he have been on

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the pine in previous years?
We would have seen him back.

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Yes, are right.
You saw a distaff he fumbled

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couple, couple series later.
There he is again, and in some

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of those series, he would make a
big play.

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So it's like, it's that
combination of the youth, along

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with the coaching staff, even
though they got schooled a

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couple times, being willing to
change.

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The course when it ain't
working.

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Yeah, I'm at meet you can say
that one of the bad is that, you

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know, there were obvious points
in the season where you saw that

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this staff was green, right?
But I think that, I think the

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thing that you can see the
positive you can take away that

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is that this green staff,
understood, their green and

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said.
All right, we can't just stick

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with what we think should work
that we got to, we got to tweak

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this and see what will actually
work in practice.

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Not just on paper about y'all.
What about y'all?

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What bad Dad.
I mean I guess to go along like

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just to kind of the yin to the
Yang of the good that I

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discussed was you know never
quitting and being in those

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close games but a bad as losing
the close games.

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Yeah, you know for a football
team is easy to give up whenever

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you lose a game that you're
supposed to win, you up by six

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and you end up losing by one or
whatever the case may be.

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We had a couple of those games
that we did that in that, we

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kind of formed Not fumbled the
ball but form of the game.

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So I guess the bad to me would
be losing those close games, but

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that's part of being young, you
know, it's part of being green

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as we talked about.
It was good.

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It was good to see growth,
though, because at the end of

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the, the end of the year, people
and say, is Liberty, do matters,

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fucking Georgia Tech we lost,
but you go to Liberty and pretty

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hostile environment for us and
you win this game.

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So that that that could have
easily been will to win.

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Team pack it up, it's over but
the they never quit and we won

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that one.
But the bad to me will be losing

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the close games this year and it
fucking sucks to lose.

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Lose.
Yeah.

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Game.
When you think you going to

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weird Rip Your Heart Right Out?
What about you?

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Jim.
Well, first off, I want to shout

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out.
I got over that Brian Cobbs

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motherfuckers drinking Everclear
right now.

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Oh my God, put that back up.
So the first half and we have a

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lot of Talent on the offensive
one.

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I don't know if you all have
ever stood next to Silas but

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he's the biggest motherfucker
I've ever stood next to him.

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My entire life.
You don't dream.

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I got to meet you up at the
spring game.

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He's a big motherfucker.
Yes, we got some town on there

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and we've got some size and it's
like we couldn't figure out how

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to do with that.
Understand we got a new oh, I'm

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coaching these.
You know, a really really good

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one.
We're trying to figure Sure that

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out and that was a huge weakness
in our offense.

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Yeah, you can talk about like
your fucking quarterback needs

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to hit this or hit that or
you're running back seem to do

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this and that it all starts with
offensive line.

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If you don't have a line, you
don't have a fucking offense,

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that's it.
Yep.

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And my entire thing is our
entire offense would do so much.

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Better opposition groups would
do better with our offensive

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line playing better and I don't
know if it's exactly our

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players, just not connecting
with the scheme.

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Scheme, not taking into account
our players strength, but that

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was a huge weakness for us.
Also our secondary.

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This was actually, there was an
issue with a lot of people were

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complaining.
We weren't bringing our Rush

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enough like we weren't bringing
a lot of five man rushes.

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We weren't bringing all that and
pry actually talk to Bud about

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it and he explained it, but
exactly what he was doing.

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It's because of the numbers
weren't lining up with.

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Ringing that Rush.
And it actually put our

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defensive backs in a better
position to intercept the ball

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and make plays whenever we
didn't bring that kind of rushed

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because we had some help in the
back.

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We're putting them in that
position, try to do that and it

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still wasn't happening.
That was a huge problem for us

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is we weren't getting tired of
those and then the other point

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was we were having turnovers.
We were losing the ball left and

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right on key drops.
You know, that loss is the Miami

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game.
And a player will be playing out

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of their minds and then all of a
sudden phone and then it's like,

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fuck everybody, entire momentum
is gone.

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So those were the three biggest
things for me, because we lost

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the turnover battle on both
sides of the ball and our

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offensive line just wasn't
clicking for whatever reason.

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So the bad for me is a guy that
like me that looks at tape every

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week, a guy that watches every
game as detailed as he can

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seeing.
How fucking close, we are to

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being a decent team because one
guy doesn't do one assignment.

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Or if we said that under group,
if you're a half second, you

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know, sooner with the block or
if you're a half second better,

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you know, getting off this or
getting off that like, we are so

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close to being at least a six or
seven win team that it tears.

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My heart out man.
Because every time I look at the

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tape, I'm like there are plays
all over this tape where we can

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be a six or seven or eight win
team and we're not it tears.

447
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:34,800
My heart out that we have to say
that Yeah here we go.

448
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000
Basically going from having an
ol philosophy not messing with

449
00:27:41,008 --> 00:27:43,700
the talent to a scheme that
doesn't match with herself

450
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:46,200
philosophy, necessary switch,
but still risky?

451
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,200
It's true.
My bad.

452
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:49,500
I'm going to go kind of with
Kalyan.

453
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,900
This, my bad was there were
times in the fourth quarter of

454
00:27:52,908 --> 00:27:57,800
these close games where they
weren't quitting, but that one

455
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,000
bad thing would happen and You
would just see like the off.

456
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,500
Fuck.
Yeah.

457
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,500
They would start thinking again
they would start thinking again

458
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:10,600
and those were the frustrating
Parts like especially the oh my

459
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,900
god.
Well I mean I can throw all of

460
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:17,700
these are babies who only y'all
in the comments are fucking

461
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:21,000
Crush any right now.
I appreciate y'all for real man

462
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:25,600
yells.
Fucking God we got we got

463
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:31,300
enough.
Yeah, Hitler bar up real quick

464
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,500
because this one was true in
decision.

465
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:35,400
Making is one thing.
He made some going to get to

466
00:28:35,408 --> 00:28:46,200
that when we say ugly, but it
was like you just need a nice

467
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,800
little touch pass.
It don't get me wrong.

468
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,000
I think Grant played his heart
out but there's certain times a

469
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,300
little Crossing route.
You'd see him like fastball

470
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:57,200
fastball and it's like know that
needs to be a change of point or

471
00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:01,900
no laser ball behind them.
So there but it was just that

472
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:04,100
fourth quarter for me.
That's my truth, bad bad.

473
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:08,500
It's like you're right there.
Thank pit, driving that ball.

474
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,800
We can go take the lead.
Perfect play.

475
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,500
And then we fumble.
And just everybody just does

476
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:15,900
like this like, oh my God, why
did that happen?

477
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:19,700
And Christ said it over and
over, you have to learn to win.

478
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,300
We have to learn when waiting,
and I won't let them kind of.

479
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:26,800
Go shovel this back to good.
Let that fourth quarter, get

480
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,600
away from us.
Yeah, but same thing.

481
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,900
But think about this, go to the
Liberty game.

482
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,500
That was great.
That was the best fourth-quarter

483
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:40,100
we played.
Well, he's a goddamn front

484
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,400
about the Liberty game.
That was the best.

485
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,900
Fourth-quarter we played all
year.

486
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,700
We forced turnovers when we got
the ball, we win scored a

487
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:00,400
touchdown.
Down when we got the ball, we

488
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,700
satin round out the clot.
The best for.

489
00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:06,500
So we deal with those
heartbreaks that crushing

490
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:08,500
defeats the freaking, we can't
win.

491
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:13,900
And finally that last game we
saw a like click and you saw

492
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:16,100
them when they forced those
turnovers and that shit happen.

493
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:19,700
It's like the eyes were like,
this is what it's like, this is

494
00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:22,500
how we win.
I wish we could have played UVA

495
00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:25,700
because the tallies point, I
think we in this season and four

496
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:29,800
and eight and going in with
momentum, just so everyone

497
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,300
knows.
The wisdom is coming from the

498
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:39,600
alcohol of met Neil.
Let's go.

499
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,500
Now, I'm going to let Jeremy
start this one off.

500
00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:43,800
Jeremy, what's the ugly?
I don't know.

501
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,400
How do we trigger the UNC fans?
I need to.

502
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,600
I need to hear this.
Short rail throwing up when you

503
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,300
can it's happening Jeremy.
Go ahead.

504
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:57,300
I will let you go ahead.
Well we fitted it to Jeremy on

505
00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:58,100
this one.
John pitch.

506
00:30:58,100 --> 00:31:01,100
Sorry.
Sorry Jeremy you go ahead now,

507
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:04,400
not a lie.
You go ahead I guess, man.

508
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,300
Like when we talked about the
ugly, you know, you can always

509
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:11,400
say what an offense sucked on
the quarterback.

510
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,100
Suck, whatever you want to say
when you're just in the moment.

511
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:19,300
But when you dig into it as like
offense was just Two or three

512
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:22,800
plays away from learning how to
win.

513
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:25,300
And what do we do?
We fucking jump offsides.

514
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:30,400
We go from a third and seven
thirty and eight to a third and

515
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,900
12.
How many times was office line,

516
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:35,600
jumping off sides.
How many times did we commit

517
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,800
stupid penalties that shot
herself in the foot insights

518
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,900
that we jumped offsides like 10
times.

519
00:31:40,900 --> 00:32:19,900
It was
Watch the games is like, only

520
00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:23,500
thing I can say about the
coaches was like, get them out,

521
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:28,100
make him sit down, I don't know.
But as far as jumping out sides,

522
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,900
like that, ain't having to do
with the coach in that

523
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,300
situation.
You're jumping off sides because

524
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:43,200
you may not know what you're
doing or should maybe so,

525
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:58,600
The lack of discipline on the
offense for the most part, like

526
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:03,800
the penalties killed us way too
many times you know or even like

527
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,000
Curtis said we're going down and
get ready to try to make it a

528
00:33:08,008 --> 00:33:11,900
game and that one play.
We miss fumble, the ball.

529
00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:16,200
We drop a pass.
We throw a pass to supposed to

530
00:33:16,208 --> 00:33:20,000
be changeup.
For fastball misses we would

531
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,000
have been a first down there
with that we punting the ball so

532
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:25,400
things like that was what was
ugly to me to watch.

533
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,600
Jeremy Jeremy what you got.
Well, I'd like to start off with

534
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,600
the way our entire offense.
Started off this year again.

535
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,600
So do you.
It's like we never came out of

536
00:33:35,608 --> 00:33:39,500
that fucking elevator.
I'm not one to criticize

537
00:33:39,500 --> 00:33:42,000
play-calling especially on the
offensive.

538
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,800
I think offensive coordinators a
lot of time.

539
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:47,600
Get way too much shit.
Oh, yeah, for sure.

540
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,900
We did not figure out how to get
our fucking offense to match,

541
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:52,400
especially the first half of the
year.

542
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,100
It was awful.
It's like tally, talking about,

543
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:55,900
like jumping off, signs all the
time.

544
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,000
What the fuck?
Are we jumping off sighs?

545
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,300
That's Your simple thing to
fucking I found myself with like

546
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:05,300
the Bland ass, like up the
middle up the middl maybe we'll

547
00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:09,300
do a plan fucking bullshit like
on, after myself wishing for a

548
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,199
Jet Sweep and you can quote me
on that Jesus.

549
00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:20,900
Why it was James Genius.
Like, I also understand what

550
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:24,199
they're trying to work within
like what they God and like the

551
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,400
players they think they have and
their capabilities that they

552
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,000
think that they have and I
understand You're trying to do

553
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,199
that, we're giving it time, but
God damn it.

554
00:34:31,207 --> 00:34:34,500
It was painful.
Yeah, and I'm glad I believe

555
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:39,400
that it made me feel a lot
better than taking half that.

556
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,699
We just met there.
We thought that I would go

557
00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:44,300
shower, Robbie company because
this is something I've said all

558
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:48,300
year, I'm a high school coach
and our kids try to jump off

559
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,100
because they're trying to get
into Advantage because they're

560
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:53,600
tired of me, chewing their ass
for getting bigger touche,

561
00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:57,100
touche, and that's part of it,
right?

562
00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:00,500
So, A lot of the reason people
jump off sizes because they're

563
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:03,100
thinking too fucking much,
they're thinking about getting

564
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:05,200
beat, they're thinking about
getting advantage over the guy

565
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,000
in front of them.
Could because they have gotten

566
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,900
beat their thinking, too, much
about shit that isn't doing my

567
00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:16,800
job, that play, right?
That's the shit that happens

568
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,200
when you're not ready to win.
And this team just wasn't ready

569
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,700
to win this year and summer days
because guys, were asked to do

570
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:26,700
too much.
Yep.

571
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:31,200
But, because they are Rear role
players that best that were

572
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,900
asked to be starters because of
the position that the former

573
00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:39,800
staff, put this roster in truth.
That's, that's part of it.

574
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:41,600
Can I put it?
I put, hold on, let me cause I'm

575
00:35:41,607 --> 00:35:43,800
gonna go back to you because
this is going to be my ugly.

576
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,300
My ugly, this year was the depth
we chart tally.

577
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:50,200
You said during that NC State
and take them out there was

578
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,800
nobody to put in.
That was the issue.

579
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:55,100
You put the next guy in.
Like, Grant Wells might be

580
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,800
laying in a body bag in the back
field because they couldn't blow

581
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:00,600
put in Jack.
Holly feel if Johnny Jordans

582
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,400
fucking up, like you're sitting
there and it's like

583
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:27,900
out there and that was the issue
is like, this is what we've got

584
00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:31,900
and when Look how it went down.
That's true.

585
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:34,000
I'll agree.
Some of the players did look

586
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,600
confused but that that's going
to happen with the was the

587
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,800
regime change in a scheme change
but it was that whole depth of

588
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,100
you know you see it on every
team.

589
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:45,300
If somebody does make the
screw-up make the fuck up.

590
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,100
Listen you need to sit the next
series, you need your head in

591
00:36:49,100 --> 00:36:50,900
the game, get your head in the
game.

592
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,200
If you're talking about, putting
somebody out there, that is

593
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,700
nowhere near ready?
You cannot do that.

594
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,400
You cannot and there's the issue
and R going to get into it later

595
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,600
about how, you know, about the
building of the program.

596
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,200
But to me, that was the ugly
part.

597
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,200
It was like, this is who we are.
This is who we got English

598
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,600
behind it.
Go ahead and finish up, run.

599
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,100
Sorry, I had to hit that to deal
with, oh, you're good.

600
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,700
And I mean, let's talk a little
bit about John's Point here.

601
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,000
So ball hit dudes in the helmet.
That's the thing to kill me.

602
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,900
All year, is that there's
there's these plays all over the

603
00:37:23,900 --> 00:37:27,000
field and guys just were
Americans making the plays and

604
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,200
the big thing we talked about
death.

605
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:34,100
It's because they are being
asked to do too much in year.

606
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:38,400
One of a new system.
Go back to that point, right?

607
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,300
There it goes.
It goes back to the previous

608
00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:43,700
point.
We did not have the depth on

609
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:50,500
this roster where you can ask
these role-playing players to go

610
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:54,400
out there and make game winning
plays when it mattered, and

611
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,500
that's the ugly.
And that's something that you

612
00:37:56,508 --> 00:38:02,400
got to kind of look at it and be
like, alright, I understand, but

613
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,600
it's still frustrating as hell,
and it was big-time evidence.

614
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,300
Author.
John's point up here at the wide

615
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:10,900
receiver group.
Oh God!

616
00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:13,800
Yes, outside of Caleb Smith.
We didn't have guys and who had

617
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:18,400
to make plays weekend week out.
Yeah, it's true.

618
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,900
It's true.
It's very true.

619
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,200
But it's like you, I mean, like,
yeah, I'll say it.

620
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:24,900
I mean, we was asking role
plays.

621
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:27,800
Like what I told you I was gonna
get on Brian about.

622
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:33,600
I didn't know, Brown, was it
like a fan like seven years?

623
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,100
And I didn't know he was like a
friend.

624
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:38,100
I look at meanwhile, his mother.
We got the Lakers it now.

625
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:41,100
Yeah.
So yeah, on this me, we was

626
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:44,100
asking Patrick Beverley to be
LeBron you work.

627
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:48,500
We still.
Are we fucking still are?

628
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:53,100
The Hokies was trying to put Pat
Bev as LeBron.

629
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,800
We had wide receivers, they
should have been out there

630
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,100
fucking blocking or plan on
kickoff, asking them to get us a

631
00:39:01,107 --> 00:39:04,000
pivotal, third down and it was
pitiful.

632
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:08,600
And I will say it, that's a
that's a JetBlue reference there

633
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,700
by our buddy.
John Lorac John will take this

634
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:17,000
down real quick you know where
we get some of this other stuff

635
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,700
later.
So you know it's three and

636
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:22,100
eight.
First of all, let's talk about

637
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:25,400
this next because there's always
a painful moment for everybody.

638
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:29,900
We've been fans, Jeremy roughly
20 years, tally, roughly 20

639
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:31,400
years, me, and Brian roof in 25
years.

640
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,700
So we've been fans for a long
time.

641
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:36,800
We all have those painful games,
the one that just sliced your

642
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,300
heart, Yeah, we're good.
Go in.

643
00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:42,100
Everything's gonna be all right.
Fuck not good.

644
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:44,000
We will talk about that in a few
minutes.

645
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:47,700
I'll Matt Neal Levar joining us
but we got one more man in the

646
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:50,300
green room.
Let's get this man in the king

647
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:57,100
of the Hokey spaces, the Space.
Ace has faced a bring him home,

648
00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:02,400
bring him home, bring him off
coming home, bills on and with

649
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,200
us go.
And where's that apple pie,

650
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,800
moonshine.
All right, boys.

651
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,300
Before we start anything.
Cheers.

652
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:12,700
Here's up klinke for your click
Keys, Clank, Keys, clink, he's

653
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,000
good.
I had already went, we are about

654
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:20,800
to start a tradition, unlike any
other, any other, it is the

655
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,100
state of the program.
Boundary Corner podcast Style.

656
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,500
With Jeremy with Tally, we can
get into it but before we get

657
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:32,900
into it.
Y'all gentlemen, how's everybody

658
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:35,000
doing?
Y'all been doing good lately.

659
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:38,200
Doing good?
Doing good man.

660
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,000
Working holiday time.
Everybody's wanting to spend

661
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,900
money.
I'm trying to let him skip you

662
00:40:43,908 --> 00:40:49,800
with me.
That what I say is it's a

663
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:55,300
holiday season like it's a lot
of traveling and watch you had

664
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:58,200
to Rally around.
You got you got somewhere.

665
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,700
I gotta get around this weekend.
I went back home to.

666
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:05,600
Hey Sasha last weekend for my
parents and now I got to go to

667
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,800
Raleigh this weekend and we're
Christmas is on a goddamn

668
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,100
fucking weekend.
I hardly even get X off.

669
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:16,700
This is just like a lot of
extended trips for me at this.

670
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:25,800
Just like this.
Put it on a Tuesday.

671
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:40,200
Put it on The Sweet Spot and we
know the main street pharmacy is

672
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,800
closed on Sundays.
Yeah.

673
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:46,700
So, there's your upsets you.
I have no excuse to close.

674
00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:48,400
Like I have the same base
offense.

675
00:41:48,400 --> 00:42:15,400
I normally do.
One, the team was right.

676
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,600
The team was rolling destroyed
Grambling State had some big

677
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,300
wins.
And I think I still feel overall

678
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:24,300
good about the team.
But they went up to Boston

679
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:26,400
College in the County Center
where Mi kyung feel.

680
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:30,500
I don't think it's Mike Young.
No disrespect.

681
00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:33,000
I think James Johnson steals,
Mike young gets into my Ki

682
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,500
Young's body when he goes up to
be.

683
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:36,900
See because we cannot fucking
win there.

684
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,400
It's All About Mary.
It's awful and they weren't

685
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,900
ten-in-one.
No Revenue 11:1, excuse me

686
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,500
Lebanon.
Now lemon to Lebanon to watching

687
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:52,500
it but we're looking through it
overall.

688
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:56,800
It's been a good season.
We don't don't shit where not if

689
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,200
this had been last year and we
had to take on this, so it was

690
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:04,800
not good at all lemon to some
good wins a man in the right

691
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,900
direction.
Rodney rice has been cleared to

692
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:11,900
play but he for some reason
won't play which only anybody

693
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:14,100
figure that out.
It sounds like they're just

694
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:15,800
trying to hold him off to the
new year.

695
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:17,900
But yeah, let that man, get
healthy.

696
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:20,200
I will I thought we needed to
get the goddamn fucking Boston

697
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,900
College.
You wouldn't, you wouldn't think

698
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:25,000
a know where that one bench
Point.

699
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:30,200
Good one, b, one b Point.
Well, hold on.

700
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,000
Here's what I want to ask is
what I want to ask.

701
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,600
I looked at the stat line
tonight and just overall, Darius

702
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,500
Maddox is starting.
He's 415 tonight, he's shooting

703
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:44,200
roughly under 10% of what the
team is shooting everywhere.

704
00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:46,700
He continues to start and I know
he's good on defense event.

705
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:53,500
He's an athletic kid, but last
season, it felt like we let him

706
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,000
do this, and we weren't winning.
Can they continue to do this?

707
00:43:57,300 --> 00:44:00,200
I mean, what if it's y'all, do?
Y'all say, listen, you got to

708
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,500
come off the bench, or you got
to lower the volume?

709
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,700
It's hard to say because we
don't, you know, you don't see

710
00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:10,800
the work that they put in every
day and the rotations and things

711
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,200
like that.
But his current, you gotta, you

712
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,500
gotta change something up.
He's not shooting well right

713
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:17,800
now.
So you gotta find a way to get

714
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,600
him on, as you're about to get
into the heart of your schedule.

715
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,300
And you definitely want to be
doing better moving into the new

716
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:28,000
year and, you know, getting
close to the tournament time.

717
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,500
So, I mean what he 415 and gonna
get it.

718
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:34,300
Yeah.
Room like Russell Westbrook, you

719
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:36,800
know, it Got the shot, that's
the bad thing that that that's

720
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,400
probably why they keep riding
him on because you know the shot

721
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,400
is there, right?
But right now we just say fallen

722
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,000
and even with volume tonight.
I mean that's that's a lot of

723
00:44:45,008 --> 00:44:47,000
volume tonight.
That's not just, you know,

724
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:50,700
shooting bad with eight shots at
shooting bad with double that

725
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:52,600
almost.
I think he might have had the

726
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,500
most shots.
Huh.

727
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,800
Go ahead Jeremy.
He's in a slump and he was in

728
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,700
the swamp last year.
I mean, if you remember Hunter

729
00:44:58,700 --> 00:45:01,800
went through a slump to and he
got out of it like there's just

730
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,500
Ebbs and flows to some of this
and I trust my killing more than

731
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:12,500
Any of us true but absolutely,
you know, but honey that's the

732
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:15,700
thing.
They're all over him.

733
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,500
This is the first two or three
shots.

734
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:34,500
He's not pulling the trigger
anymore.

735
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:37,100
Yeah, he goes.
We all need it really bad.

736
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,400
He knows he's missing his like
this, not my night, I need to

737
00:45:39,408 --> 00:45:41,400
move the ball.
If he's not, he's gonna keep it

738
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,100
rolling.
If he's not, he's gonna

739
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:47,900
facilitate Darius, just keeps
you just keep shooting.

740
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:50,700
Sometimes he shoots his way out
of it.

741
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:53,400
Then the game we saw him make a
couple clutch shots down the

742
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,400
stretch a couple games back
then.

743
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,100
Oh kind of put us over the top.
So you know it's kind of you

744
00:45:59,107 --> 00:46:02,600
take, you take the good with the
bad but when it's that bad it's

745
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,600
and you taking that many shots
just Definitely hurts the team.

746
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,500
And you know when everybody else
is playing solo energy tonight,

747
00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:12,300
you know, you can't have a guy
that stopping the ball and

748
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:17,500
taking that many shots that
aren't falling in Drew are

749
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:19,200
greet.
Yeah and Michaele.

750
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,800
I mean he had a good had a few
good shots but I mean he wasn't

751
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,800
hot either.
I mean no one was really hot.

752
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,300
Must had a few good moves,
Padula missing a long way and so

753
00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:33,600
sloppy, sloppy and flat.
That's all that was.

754
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,800
Well, the funny part is we
talked about that for game

755
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,000
stretch.
Where's what?

756
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,900
Minnesota Carolina Dane,
Oklahoma state will.

757
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:43,800
Like, we can just get through
that 2 & 2, 3 & 1.

758
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,400
We went for no.
And then we do this.

759
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,900
Frustrated, by the way, a week
from Saturday, it's not a

760
00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:54,600
cakewalk.
I mean, weights coming off that

761
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,600
win vs Duke last night, right?
Dipper eyes.

762
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,400
Deceive me.
They beat Duke last night.

763
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,100
So we got them, right?
Got to go on the road against

764
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:04,100
them.
So, you know, they're going to

765
00:47:04,107 --> 00:47:06,500
be feeling themselves, hopefully
too much.

766
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,200
Hopefully we can take care of
them but I think I mean they

767
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,100
came, they came into that Duke
game, kind of, you know, looking

768
00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:16,900
for something to eat.
Now, they got a little little

769
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:18,200
bit of gas, so we'll see what
happens.

770
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:20,300
We'll see.
We got, they get the boys, get a

771
00:47:20,308 --> 00:47:23,700
10-day break, wake will be a
little bit better of an

772
00:47:23,700 --> 00:47:25,600
atmosphere, but hopefully Rodney
rice.

773
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,100
Please that game.
Hopefully, it's our New Year's

774
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:30,200
Eve gift.
Other than, you know, getting

775
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,900
really drunk and feeling really
good for that night.

776
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:36,700
All right?
So let's, let's take a pause

777
00:47:36,700 --> 00:47:38,800
before we get into the football.
What's everybody drinking?

778
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,600
My, let's do a roll call.
Apple pie moonshine.

779
00:47:43,700 --> 00:47:53,100
Jeremy got Jameson.
Get been ipas pacing under this

780
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:53,900
current.
Let you go.

781
00:47:54,300 --> 00:48:01,100
Curtis is got the Kirkland 12
year old scotch Boys.

782
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:04,000
We roll a little 11 white label
tonight.

783
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,900
It's Going Down Smooth, it's
going down through.

784
00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:09,600
There is always good stuff goes
on.

785
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,800
So there's our roles are never
black people know you don't ever

786
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,300
drink.
Nothing has got two white,

787
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:24,400
name's Evan Williams.
No, but we've actually got some

788
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,900
roll calls.
Y'all from the chat here.

789
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:30,700
Put that up there, everybody,
Matt Spring.

790
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:40,600
By the way, we would want every
It's almost the holiday time.

791
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,100
It's almost a week's vacation
for me.

792
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:53,200
So, by the way, if that's true.
So if you're out there, you want

793
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,100
to get on roll call, Pop this
one in Facebook, give you two of

794
00:48:57,100 --> 00:49:00,500
the Twitter replies and we will
see what you're drinking with

795
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:03,000
us, but let's jump over to
football and this is kind of

796
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,900
going to be a season
retrospective.

797
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,900
But let's go here before we
before we jump into what

798
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:13,200
happened this season, I'll start
with Jeremy here.

799
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,900
What was your preseason record
expectations?

800
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:18,300
Where were you thinking?
This team was going to go you

801
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:21,700
live in Blacksburg you probably
hear more chatter than we do but

802
00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:23,200
what did you feel going into
season?

803
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,000
I I mean I was hoping we were
going to get six or seven wins.

804
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:31,100
I mean the idea of us not going
to a bowl game is foreign to me.

805
00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:34,900
So I thought that we were going
to come in.

806
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:38,600
You know, it at least, you know,
get to a ball game.

807
00:49:38,900 --> 00:49:42,000
That, that was just my general
feeling, you know, but we also

808
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,600
didn't have any kind of idea
about what we're about to see.

809
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:51,300
So, All right.
Tally, what was your preseason?

810
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:54,600
Expectations.
So I put a tweet out before the

811
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:58,700
season just like what a funny
picture and said if he probably

812
00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:03,800
gets us to a bowl game and he
needs to have a statue made.

813
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,800
I seen it, I mean, wasn't trying
to be - just looking at had no

814
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,000
expectations.
Yeah, you know you said hey I'm

815
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,700
gonna watch it and you know, I
want to win but I just want to

816
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,600
see some improvement because
they've been You have a new head

817
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:24,900
coach new offensive coordinator,
new defensive coordinator, new

818
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,900
all positions, just about all
were new.

819
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:29,900
So it was just too much
unexpect.

820
00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:33,200
I mean, too much unknown for me
to be like, I know we're going

821
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,800
to go ahead and and win game.
So I thought maybe five wins is

822
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,200
what I about thought we would
get.

823
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,100
But of course, you always, like
you said, you're always hoping

824
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:43,900
that.
I know we don't make a bowl game

825
00:50:43,900 --> 00:50:49,100
because it's like so unexpected
for us not to I'm going to go

826
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:53,200
ahead and we we own hours here
on the boundary Corner podcast.

827
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,200
I wouldn't stupid and said, nine
and three, don't throw things.

828
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:06,900
And so we.
So we said I said, 93, I knew he

829
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:09,100
had some talent.
I thought the usually you get to

830
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:12,900
spark with the new coaching
staff, but we did have a caveat

831
00:51:13,700 --> 00:51:14,900
And I'm gonna go ahead and say
it.

832
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:18,700
What I caveat was as we said
five and seven and that was

833
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:21,700
saying if things don't click
right, well obviously things

834
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:25,400
didn't click right.
Some players got hurt that could

835
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:29,100
not get hurt and the biggest one
was Malachi Malachi getting

836
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:30,600
hurt.
The beginning of the season was

837
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,700
an absolute just it crippled the
offense which was already in a

838
00:51:34,707 --> 00:51:38,300
bad position, it hurt to start
and obviously it hurt to kind

839
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:40,000
of, you know, as we wrapped up
things.

840
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:43,000
So it was kind of hurting on the
front end and the back end.

841
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,400
I mean, we said five wins was
probably kind of the floor

842
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,600
borderline floor of this team
and I think if you have a

843
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,500
healthy Squad you probably get
five.

844
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:58,100
Maybe, I don't know.
But we played in what three or

845
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:02,900
four to close games, small wire
place all the one lost them all.

846
00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:06,100
But one I mean the one you got
to finish better and some of

847
00:52:06,107 --> 00:52:09,100
that's on the coaching.
Absolutely.

848
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:12,000
Let me switch schemes in the
middle of the schedule.

849
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:21,500
We did I mean that's one of the
things we're going to talk about

850
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:23,900
I think as we get kind of
further into this thing is that

851
00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:27,200
you know what are we looking
like going into next year?

852
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,500
And I mean I've got to I've got
a bunch of thoughts on that

853
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:31,600
front.
So I got guns, we'll hit down

854
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,800
pretty heavy.
But yeah, I mean, we're

855
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,900
switching schemes with through
and it's so hard.

856
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,200
It's so hard.
To change course in the middle

857
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:46,800
of a season like that because
number one, you already had a

858
00:52:46,808 --> 00:52:49,900
new scheme that you recommend in
the start the year players

859
00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:52,400
weren't even fully acclimated to
that.

860
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,300
And all of a sudden you're
switching it up, you're changing

861
00:52:54,300 --> 00:53:00,600
things and I give them a, some
kudos for not going full bore

862
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,500
into a completely different
direction.

863
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:06,300
It was more like tweaks and
modifications versus a full-bore

864
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:13,600
swap there but at the same time,
It's a struggle to do that much

865
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,200
in the middle of the Season.
Normally you like to add two or

866
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,900
three plays to your playbook a
week, it's kind of you progress

867
00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:22,300
through this through the
schedule, right, whether it's

868
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:25,400
specific to that team or whether
it's just you adding to the

869
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:30,300
Playbook to get more Dynamic and
having to make some wholesale

870
00:53:30,300 --> 00:53:33,700
changes in the middle of the
year, is a pretty big ass for a

871
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:36,400
team.
But that's just the, in some way

872
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,300
it was a miscalculation to start
the year that we thought.

873
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:44,000
We could lean on a power running
game, work play action and think

874
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,200
that that was going to be enough
to get some wins in the ACC.

875
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,900
Hmm.
It's true.

876
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,000
It's true but at least here's
the one thing you can already

877
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,000
say about this coaching staff
and it did not take long as

878
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,500
they're not afraid to quickly
make the adjustments.

879
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:02,400
They're not afraid to say this
bull shit ain't working.

880
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,000
We have to try something
different and I think yes, for

881
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,400
us following this program
closes.

882
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:11,200
We do the prior coaching staff,
I would literally die on a hill.

883
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,700
Like, like this is not working.
We do what we do.

884
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,000
I'm just tell me how it ring the
bell.

885
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:21,500
Every time someone says he gets
it

886
00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:48,900
Yes, that's pretty damn good.
So what was some of the good

887
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:51,900
that you saw?
And I mean, 3 and 8 season?

888
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:56,700
That's I'm asking a lot of you
to lead off for many the main

889
00:54:56,700 --> 00:55:00,900
thing I guess is because when
you look at every game I made,

890
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,300
it was easy for these kids to
quit is either for the coaching

891
00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:08,100
staff to quit.
But watching every game, I never

892
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:11,200
seen quit.
It, you know I guess that's the

893
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,900
good that you seen.
You seem that the kids didn't

894
00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:16,600
quit on the coaching staff
coaching staff, really didn't

895
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,100
quit on the kids because you
gotta think we did win three

896
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:22,200
games.
I think we would have won for if

897
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:27,200
we had to play uv8 data for win
season but I mean we lost a

898
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:29,200
North Carolina state on the
road.

899
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,000
By one point, we lost a Georgia
Tech at home by one point, we

900
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,700
lost a Miami at home by six
points.

901
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,400
I mean, it was plenty of games
that could have been a little

902
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,200
different than they were had.
We had a couple of players.

903
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:50,600
So, again, I mean, I just think
that the fight was there.

904
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,700
So I think that was good for the
season.

905
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:54,500
Thank you.
Jeremy.

906
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:57,600
What you got?
I mean, I had several points.

907
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,600
I feel like we were coming
together a whole lot better on

908
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,600
offense.
For the end.

909
00:56:02,700 --> 00:56:06,400
We switch it up in the middle
and it seemed to start working

910
00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:08,600
toward the end of the season.
I thought that was pretty good.

911
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:11,900
Lame was always Rocky.
No matter what.

912
00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:15,500
We had everyone coming out
everyone supporting that can

913
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:18,800
only go on for so long that we
have a very loyal fan base.

914
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,200
We do you know I think we got a
good three years of that if it's

915
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,400
time fix it three years ago, To
see some fall off, but I believe

916
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,200
in our fan base and I believe in
our team.

917
00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:32,300
I felt like the running back
play started coming together a

918
00:56:32,308 --> 00:56:34,100
little bit more.
We saw some flashes.

919
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,400
I mean, Keshawn King looks so
good, in some games and then of

920
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,400
course, you'd have like a
fumbles and shit.

921
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,200
But I mean, there were some
flashes and one of my biggest

922
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,100
things was the defense.
It wasn't like a leader anything

923
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,900
but it kept us in ball games
like if we would have had a

924
00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:56,000
decent offense like In some of
those games are headed just

925
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,100
click a little more like it did
toward the end of the season.

926
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,000
We would have had more wins.
Yeah.

927
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:05,400
And we talked about it all year
the defense kept us in games at

928
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,300
least for three quarters.
Yeah pretty much the whole

929
00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:10,200
fucking year.
Yeah.

930
00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:13,700
Which I mean that's that's as
much as you can ask especially

931
00:57:13,700 --> 00:57:16,700
how often the offense was given
the ball back to the defense.

932
00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:26,500
So I think that was ever mark
See that the defense can hold up

933
00:57:26,500 --> 00:57:28,600
against even some of the better
competition.

934
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,700
The ACC.
I know we didn't play Clemson,

935
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:35,400
but we played kind of with two
of the best for in the ACC.

936
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:40,000
If we're being honest, right and
held up pretty well against all

937
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:44,900
of them but UNC on defense.
And I still look like you and

938
00:57:44,908 --> 00:57:48,000
see and say that that was just a
bad matchup because we probably

939
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,800
had our worst cornerback
situation in that game having

940
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:57,000
one out and and not having
delaying really playing

941
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:02,500
significant snaps at that point.
So for Dre banging to have game

942
00:58:02,500 --> 00:58:03,800
like that again.
There he is.

943
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,600
All right.
All his talents gone, all his

944
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,700
talents gone.
I don't care how much money they

945
00:58:07,700 --> 00:58:11,000
throw at him.
He's got worse.

946
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,400
The young players y'all.
The point.

947
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,700
Y'all made a great seeing the
young players seeing, man,

948
00:58:18,700 --> 00:58:21,100
sword.
The lane immediately freshman

949
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:25,500
All-American, right. 4247
immediately, kalai Lawson.

950
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,300
I think he's figured out will,
and I sit there and I see

951
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:32,800
glimpses of treatment treatment,
remain analyzed and will

952
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,800
linebacker.
Jason, Keller a couple times,

953
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:39,900
you know, some of the young'uns
McRae and Nelson, getting good

954
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:41,700
play.
They're not there yet, but you

955
00:58:41,700 --> 00:58:45,800
saw them making good plays.
He's guys like strowman and to

956
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,500
go along with the coaching
staff.

957
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:49,100
Not quittin.
My other.

958
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:51,300
Good is.
When they realized it wasn't

959
00:58:51,300 --> 00:58:53,600
working, they were like, okay,
it's not working.

960
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,500
We need to change this.
We need to change his shit.

961
00:58:56,600 --> 00:59:00,200
We're not getting it done and to
do that in the middle of a

962
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:05,000
season, it takes balls, it takes
balls from a head coach to say.

963
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:06,300
It ain't working with changing
it.

964
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,700
But then what about this?
You talked about Keshawn King

965
00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:12,900
fumbling.
How quick would he have been on

966
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:16,100
the pine in previous years?
We would have seen him back.

967
00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:19,100
Yes, are right.
You saw a distaff he fumbled

968
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:22,200
couple, couple series later.
There he is again, and in some

969
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,100
of those series, he would make a
big play.

970
00:59:24,700 --> 00:59:29,100
So it's like, it's that
combination of the youth, along

971
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:31,400
with the coaching staff, even
though they got schooled a

972
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,000
couple times, being willing to
change.

973
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,200
The course when it ain't
working.

974
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,600
Yeah, I'm at meet you can say
that one of the bad is that, you

975
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,500
know, there were obvious points
in the season where you saw that

976
00:59:44,500 --> 00:59:48,400
this staff was green, right?
But I think that, I think the

977
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,400
thing that you can see the
positive you can take away that

978
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,800
is that this green staff,
understood, their green and

979
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,200
said.
All right, we can't just stick

980
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,700
with what we think should work
that we got to, we got to tweak

981
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:02,000
this and see what will actually
work in practice.

982
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,500
Not just on paper about y'all.
What about y'all?

983
01:00:06,500 --> 01:00:10,900
What bad And I mean I guess to
go along like just to kind of

984
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:16,000
the yin to the Yang of the good
that I discussed was you know

985
01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:19,600
never quitting and being in
those close games but a bad as

986
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,800
losing the close games.
Yeah, you know for a football

987
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:28,000
team is easy to give up whenever
you lose a game that you're

988
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,700
supposed to win, you up by six
and you end up losing by one or

989
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,300
whatever the case may be.
We had a couple of those games

990
01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:38,500
that we did that in that, we
kind of formed Not fumbled the

991
01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:42,000
ball but form of the game.
So I guess the bad to me would

992
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,700
be losing those close games, but
that's part of being young, you

993
01:00:45,700 --> 01:00:48,500
know, this part of being green
as we talked about.

994
01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:53,100
It was good.
It was good to see growth,

995
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:56,900
though, because at the end of
the, the end of the year, people

996
01:00:56,900 --> 01:01:00,200
and say, is Liberty, do matters,
fucking Georgia Tech we lost,

997
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:05,500
but you go to Liberty and pretty
hostile environment for us and

998
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,200
you win this game.
So that that that could have

999
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,100
easily been will to win.
Team pack it up, it's over but

1000
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:15,900
the they never quit and we won
that one.

1001
01:01:15,900 --> 01:01:19,400
But the bad to me will be losing
the close games this year and it

1002
01:01:19,408 --> 01:01:20,800
fucking sucks to lose.
Lose.

1003
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:21,700
Yeah.
Game.

1004
01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:26,600
When you think you going to
weird Rip Your Heart Right Out?

1005
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,700
What about you, Jim?
Well, first off, I wanna shout

1006
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:31,900
out.
I got over that Brian Cobbs

1007
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,900
motherfuckers.
Drinking Everclear right now,

1008
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:52,300
goddamn, put that back up.
So the first half and we have a

1009
01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:54,600
lot of Talent on the offensive
one.

1010
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,700
I don't know if you all have
ever stood next to Silas but

1011
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,200
he's the biggest motherfucker
I've ever stood next to him.

1012
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,900
My entire life.
You don't dream.

1013
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,300
I got to meet you up at the
spring game.

1014
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:10,700
He's a big motherfucker.
Yes, we got some town on there

1015
01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:14,500
and we've got some size and it's
like we couldn't figure out how

1016
01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:16,500
to do with that.
Understand we got a new oh, I'm

1017
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:19,000
coaching these.
You know, a really really good

1018
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,800
one.
We're trying to figure Sure that

1019
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,100
out and that was a huge weakness
in our offense.

1020
01:02:24,300 --> 01:02:27,900
Yeah, you can talk about like
your fucking quarterback needs

1021
01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:30,100
to hit this or hit that or
you're running back seem to do

1022
01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:32,800
this and that it all starts with
offensive line.

1023
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,300
If you don't have a line, you
don't have a fucking offense,

1024
01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:36,900
that's it.
Yep.

1025
01:02:36,900 --> 01:02:40,900
And my entire thing is our
entire offense would do so much.

1026
01:02:40,900 --> 01:02:44,200
Better opposition groups would
do better with our offensive

1027
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,200
line playing better and I don't
know if it's exactly our

1028
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,300
players, just not connecting
with the scheme.

1029
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,200
Scheme, not taking into account
our players strength, but that

1030
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,700
was a huge weakness for us.
Also our secondary.

1031
01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:03,300
This was actually, there was an
issue with a lot of people were

1032
01:03:03,300 --> 01:03:06,100
complaining.
We weren't bringing our Rush

1033
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:09,600
enough like we weren't bringing
a lot of five man rushes.

1034
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,900
We weren't bringing all that and
pry actually talk to Bud about

1035
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:17,500
it and he explained it, but
exactly what he was doing.

1036
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,900
It's because the numbers weren't
lining up with Ringing that

1037
01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:24,300
Rush.
And it actually put our

1038
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,100
defensive backs in a better
position to intercept the ball

1039
01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:30,900
and make plays whenever we
didn't bring that kind of rush

1040
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:32,300
because we had some help in the
back.

1041
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,700
We're putting them in that
position to try to do that and

1042
01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:38,200
it still wasn't happening.
That was a huge problem for us

1043
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:44,800
is we weren't getting churros
and then the other point was we

1044
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,800
were having turnovers.
We were losing the ball left and

1045
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,500
right on key drops.
You know, that lost is the Miami

1046
01:03:51,500 --> 01:03:53,500
game.
And a player will be playing out

1047
01:03:53,500 --> 01:03:57,100
of their minds and then all of a
sudden phone and then it's like,

1048
01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:59,700
fuck everybody, entire momentum
is gone.

1049
01:04:00,100 --> 01:04:04,200
So those were the three biggest
things for me, because we lost

1050
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,300
the turnover battle on both
sides of the ball and our

1051
01:04:07,300 --> 01:04:09,800
offensive line just wasn't
clicking for whatever reason.

1052
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:15,500
So the bad for me is a guy that
like me that looks at tape every

1053
01:04:15,500 --> 01:04:20,900
week, a guy that watches every
game as detailed as he can

1054
01:04:21,300 --> 01:04:25,800
seeing.
How fucking close, we are to

1055
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:31,300
being a decent team because one
guy doesn't do one assignment.

1056
01:04:31,300 --> 01:04:36,700
Or if we said that under him, if
you're a half second, you know,

1057
01:04:36,700 --> 01:04:40,600
sooner with the block or if
you're a half second better, you

1058
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:44,000
know, getting off this or
getting off that like, we are so

1059
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:51,400
close to being at least a six or
seven win team that it tears.

1060
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,400
My heart out man.
Because every time I look at the

1061
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:58,500
tape, I'm like there are plays
all over this tape where we can

1062
01:04:58,500 --> 01:05:03,200
be a six or seven or eight win
team and we're not it tears.

1063
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:13,300
My heart out that we have to say
that Yeah, it's here we go, man.

1064
01:05:13,300 --> 01:05:17,000
The old saying basically going
from having an ol philosophy,

1065
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,800
not messing with the talent to a
scheme that doesn't match with

1066
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,700
herself philosophy, necessary
switch, but still risky?

1067
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:24,600
It's true.
My bad.

1068
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,900
I'm going to go kind of with
Kalyan.

1069
01:05:25,900 --> 01:05:29,400
This, my bad was there were
times in the fourth quarter of

1070
01:05:29,408 --> 01:05:34,200
these close games where they
weren't quitting, but that one

1071
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,500
bad thing would happen and You
would just see like the off.

1072
01:05:37,500 --> 01:05:39,000
Fuck.
Yeah.

1073
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:43,000
They would start thinking again
they would start thinking again

1074
01:05:43,300 --> 01:05:47,100
and those were the frustrating
Parts like especially the oh my

1075
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:50,400
god.
Well I mean I can throw all of

1076
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:54,200
these are babies who only y'all
in the comments are fucking

1077
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:57,400
Crush any right now.
I appreciate y'all for real man

1078
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:02,100
yells.
Fucking God we got we got

1079
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:07,700
enough.
Yeah, Hitler bar up real quick

1080
01:06:07,900 --> 01:06:10,000
because this one was true in
decision.

1081
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:11,900
Making is one thing.
He made some going to get to

1082
01:06:11,900 --> 01:06:23,700
that when we say ugly, but it
was a nice little touch pass.

1083
01:06:23,700 --> 01:06:26,300
It don't get me wrong.
I think Grant played his heart

1084
01:06:26,300 --> 01:06:28,400
out but there's certain times a
little Crossing route.

1085
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,800
You'd see him like fastball
fastball and it's like no that

1086
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:35,300
needs to be a change of point or
no laser ball behind them.

1087
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:39,100
So there but it was just that
fourth quarter for me.

1088
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:42,100
That's my truth, bad bad.
It's like you're right there.

1089
01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:46,300
Think pit driving that ball.
We can go take the lead.

1090
01:06:46,300 --> 01:06:50,000
Perfect play and then we fumble.
And just everybody just does

1091
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,400
like this like, oh my God, why
did that happen?

1092
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:56,200
And Christ said it over and
over, you have to learn to win.

1093
01:06:56,700 --> 01:07:00,800
We have to learn when well, and
I won't let them kind of.

1094
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,300
Go shovel this back to good.
Let that fourth quarter, get

1095
01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:05,100
away from us.
Yeah, but same thing.

1096
01:07:05,700 --> 01:07:08,400
But think about this, go to the
Liberty game.

1097
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:11,000
That was great.
That was the best fourth-quarter

1098
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:16,600
we played.
Well, he's a goddamn front.

1099
01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:29,900
The Liberty game, that was the
best.

1100
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:31,400
Fourth-quarter we played all
year.

1101
01:07:32,300 --> 01:07:35,100
We forced turnovers when we got
the ball, we win scored a

1102
01:07:35,107 --> 01:07:36,000
touchdown.
Down.

1103
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,300
When we got the ball, we satin
round out the plot.

1104
01:07:39,300 --> 01:07:41,700
The best for.
So we deal with those

1105
01:07:41,700 --> 01:07:44,600
heartbreaks that crushing
defeats the freaking, we can't

1106
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,900
win.
And finally that last game we

1107
01:07:46,900 --> 01:07:51,400
saw a like click and you saw
them when they force those

1108
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,600
turnovers and that shit happen.
It's like the eyes were like,

1109
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:56,900
this is what it's like, this is
how we win.

1110
01:07:57,500 --> 01:08:00,100
I wish we could have played UVA
because the tallies point, I

1111
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:03,500
think we in this season and four
and eight and going in with

1112
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:07,000
momentum, just so everyone
knows.

1113
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,100
The wisdom is coming from the
alcohol of Matt Neal.

1114
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,200
Let's go.
Now, I'm going to let Jeremy

1115
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,899
start this one off.
Jeremy, what's the ugly?

1116
01:08:19,899 --> 01:08:22,500
I don't know.
How do we trigger the UNC fans?

1117
01:08:22,500 --> 01:08:23,800
I need to.
I need to hear this.

1118
01:08:25,899 --> 01:08:28,700
Short rail throwing up when you
can, what is happening.

1119
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,700
Jeremy, go ahead.
I will let you go ahead.

1120
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,000
Well we fitted it to Jeremy on
this one, John pitch, sorry.

1121
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:38,100
Sorry, Jeremy you go ahead.
Now not tally.

1122
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:43,000
You go ahead, I guess, man.
Like when we talked about the

1123
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:46,800
ugly, you know, you can always
say what an offense sucked on

1124
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:49,100
the quarterback.
Suck, whatever you want to say

1125
01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:52,300
when you're just in the moment.
But when you dig into it as like

1126
01:08:52,899 --> 01:08:58,800
offense was just Two or three
plays away from learning how to

1127
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,200
win.
And what do we do?

1128
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:05,100
We fucking jump offsides.
We go from a third and seven,

1129
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:07,399
thirty and eight to a third and
12.

1130
01:09:07,700 --> 01:09:10,300
How many times was office line,
jumping off sides.

1131
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,800
How many times did we commit
stupid penalties that shot

1132
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,899
herself in the foot insights
that we jumped offsides like 10

1133
01:09:16,899 --> 01:09:56,400
times.
Watch the games of, like, only

1134
01:09:56,400 --> 01:10:00,000
thing I can say about the
coaches was like, get them out,

1135
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,500
make him sit down, I don't know.
But as far as jumping on sides,

1136
01:10:04,500 --> 01:10:08,000
like that, ain't gonna do what
the coach in that situation.

1137
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,300
You're jumping off size because
you may not know what you're

1138
01:10:11,300 --> 01:10:17,500
doing, or should I got said,
I've had from Alabama, man.

1139
01:10:17,500 --> 01:10:19,600
You know anything we on the
line, so,

1140
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,800
For the most part.
Like the penalties killed us way

1141
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:42,000
too many times you know, or even
like Curtis said we're going

1142
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:46,200
down and get ready to try to
make it a game and that one

1143
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,800
play.
We miss farmer the ball, we drop

1144
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:54,300
a pass, we throw a pass to
supposed to be changeup.

1145
01:10:54,500 --> 01:10:57,400
For fastball in this we would
have been a first down there

1146
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,800
whenever we punting the ball.
So things like that was what was

1147
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,000
ugly to me to watch.
Jeremy Jeremy what you got.

1148
01:11:05,300 --> 01:11:08,900
Well, I'd like to start off with
the way our entire offense.

1149
01:11:08,900 --> 01:11:10,700
Started off this year again.
So do you.

1150
01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:13,300
It's like we never came out of
that fucking elevator.

1151
01:11:14,300 --> 01:11:18,100
I'm not one to criticize
play-calling especially on the

1152
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:19,700
offensive.
I think offensive coordinators a

1153
01:11:19,708 --> 01:11:22,700
lot of time.
Get way too much shit.

1154
01:11:22,700 --> 01:11:25,800
Oh, yeah, for sure.
We did not figure out how to get

1155
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,500
our fucking offense to match,
especially the first half of the

1156
01:11:28,508 --> 01:11:29,500
year.
It was awful.

1157
01:11:29,500 --> 01:11:31,900
It's like tally, talking about,
like jumping off, signs all the

1158
01:11:31,900 --> 01:11:33,600
time.
What the fuck?

1159
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,900
Are we jumping off sighs?
That's Your simple thing to

1160
01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:40,200
fucking I found myself with like
the Bland ass, like up the

1161
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,700
middle up the middl maybe we'll
do a plan fucking bullshit like

1162
01:11:43,700 --> 01:11:47,300
on, after myself wishing for a
Jet Sweep and you can quote me

1163
01:11:47,300 --> 01:11:55,600
on that Jesus.
Why it was James Genius.

1164
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,600
Like, I also understand what
they're trying to work within

1165
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,800
like what they God and like the
players they think they have and

1166
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,200
their capabilities that they
think that they have and I

1167
01:12:04,208 --> 01:12:06,900
understand You're trying to do
that, we're giving it time, but

1168
01:12:06,900 --> 01:12:08,500
God damn it.
It was painful.

1169
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,700
Yeah, and I'm glad I believe
that it made me feel a lot

1170
01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:16,700
better than taking half that.
We just met there.

1171
01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:19,700
We thought that I would go
shower, Robbie company because

1172
01:12:19,700 --> 01:12:22,900
this is something I've said all
year, I'm a high school coach

1173
01:12:22,900 --> 01:12:25,600
and our kids try to jump off
because they're trying to get

1174
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,600
into Advantage because they're
tired of me, chewing their ass

1175
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:33,000
for getting bigger touche,
touche, and that's part of it,

1176
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,700
right?
So, A lot of the reason people

1177
01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:38,700
jump off sizes because they're
thinking too fucking much,

1178
01:12:38,700 --> 01:12:40,700
they're thinking about getting
beat, they're thinking about

1179
01:12:40,700 --> 01:12:42,300
getting advantage over the guy
in front of them.

1180
01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:45,700
Could because they have gotten
beat their thinking, too, much

1181
01:12:45,700 --> 01:12:51,500
about shit that isn't doing my
job, that play, right?

1182
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,600
That's the shit that happens
when you're not ready to win.

1183
01:12:56,500 --> 01:12:59,800
And this team just wasn't ready
to win this year and summer days

1184
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,100
because guys, were asked to do
too much.

1185
01:13:02,900 --> 01:13:06,400
Yep.
But, because they are Rear role

1186
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,500
players that best that were
asked to be starters because of

1187
01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:15,000
the position that the former
staff, put this roster is true.

1188
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:17,100
That's that's part of it.
Can I put it?

1189
01:13:17,100 --> 01:13:19,000
I put, hold on, let me cause I'm
gonna go back to you because

1190
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,700
this is going to be my ugly.
My ugly, this year was the depth

1191
01:13:22,900 --> 01:13:25,200
we chart tally.
You said during that NC State

1192
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,100
and take them out there was
nobody to put in.

1193
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:30,500
That was the issue.
You put the next guy in.

1194
01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:33,100
Like, Grant Wells might be
laying in a body bag in the back

1195
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:35,600
field because they couldn't
believe we're put in Jack.

1196
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,300
Holly feel if Johnny Jordans
fucking up, like you're sitting

1197
01:13:40,300 --> 01:14:03,000
there and it's like
out there and that was the issue

1198
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,100
is like, this is what we've got
and when Look how it went down.

1199
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,500
That's true.
I'll agree.

1200
01:14:09,500 --> 01:14:12,100
Some of the players did look
confused but that that's going

1201
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:15,000
to happen with the was the
regime change in a scheme change

1202
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:19,200
but it was that whole depth of
you know you see it on every

1203
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,400
team.
If somebody does make the

1204
01:14:20,407 --> 01:14:23,400
screw-up make the fuck up.
Listen you need to sit the next

1205
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,900
series, you need your head in
the game, get your head in the

1206
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:28,700
game.
If you're talking about, putting

1207
01:14:28,700 --> 01:14:30,500
somebody out there, that is
nowhere near ready?

1208
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:34,200
You cannot do that.
You cannot and there's the issue

1209
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:38,000
and R going to get into it later
about how, you know, about the

1210
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,400
building of the program.
But to me, that was the ugly

1211
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,800
part.
It was like, this is who we are.

1212
01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:45,400
This is who we got English
behind it.

1213
01:14:46,100 --> 01:14:48,400
Go ahead and finish up, run.
Sorry, I had to hit that to deal

1214
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:51,500
with, oh, you're good.
And I mean, let's talk a little

1215
01:14:51,500 --> 01:14:55,300
bit about John's Point here.
So ball hit dudes in the helmet.

1216
01:14:55,300 --> 01:14:59,100
That's the thing to kill me.
All year, is that there's

1217
01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:02,000
there's these plays all over the
field and guys just were

1218
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,100
Americans making the plays and
the big thing we talked about

1219
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:07,000
death.
It's because they are being

1220
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:12,400
asked to do too much in year.
One of a new system.

1221
01:15:13,700 --> 01:15:15,600
Caitlin that point, right.
There it goes.

1222
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,400
It goes back to the previous
point.

1223
01:15:17,500 --> 01:15:23,600
We did not have the depth on
this roster where you can ask

1224
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:28,700
these role-playing players to go
out there and make game winning

1225
01:15:28,700 --> 01:15:31,600
plays when it mattered, and
that's the ugly.

1226
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,600
And that's something that you
got to kind of look at it and be

1227
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:40,300
like, alright, I understand, but
it's still frustrating as hell,

1228
01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:43,700
and it was big-time evidence.
Author.

1229
01:15:43,700 --> 01:15:46,800
John's point up here at the wide
receiver group.

1230
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,100
Oh God!
Yes, outside of Caleb Smith.

1231
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:53,300
We didn't have guys and who had
to make plays weekend week out.

1232
01:15:53,900 --> 01:15:55,400
Yeah, it's true.
It's true.

1233
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,600
It's very true.
But it's like you, I mean, the

1234
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,400
lucky I'll say it, I mean we was
asking role plays.

1235
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,200
Like what I told you I was gonna
get on Brian about.

1236
01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:10,100
I didn't know, Brown, was it
like a fan like seven years?

1237
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:11,500
And I didn't know he was like a
friend.

1238
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,600
I look at meanwhile, his mother.
We got the Lakers it now.

1239
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,600
Yeah.
So yeah, on this me, we was

1240
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,600
asking Patrick Beverley to be
LeBron you work.

1241
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:25,000
We still.
Are we fucking still are?

1242
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,600
The Hokies was trying to put Pat
bill as LeBron.

1243
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:32,300
We had wide receivers, they
should have been out there

1244
01:16:32,300 --> 01:16:37,600
fucking blocking or plan on
kickoff, asking them to get us a

1245
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:40,500
pivotal, third down and it was
pitiful.

1246
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:45,000
And I will say it, that's a
that's a JetBlue reference there

1247
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:50,100
by our buddy.
John Lorac John will take this

1248
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:53,500
down real quick you know where
we get some of this other stuff

1249
01:16:53,500 --> 01:16:55,100
later.
So you know it's three and

1250
01:16:55,100 --> 01:16:58,500
eight.
First of all, let's talk about

1251
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:01,900
this next because there's always
a painful moment for everybody.

1252
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:06,400
We've been fans, Jeremy roughly
20 years, tally, roughly 20

1253
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:07,900
years, me, and Brian roof in 25
years.

1254
01:17:07,900 --> 01:17:10,100
So we've been fans for a long
time.

1255
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,300
We all have those painful games,
the one that just sliced your

1256
01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:17,900
heart, There is one my buddy
Biff who lives out in San Diego.

1257
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,800
The Boise State game at fool me
and him were on the phone for

1258
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,200
two hours after that game, but
he lives.

1259
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:37,400
But this season 8 losses, what
was the most painful?

1260
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,300
Which one just just Ripken?
You would just like oh my God

1261
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,000
basically it was a night of you
see this?

1262
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,800
I'm gonna Drink all of this
because I'm hurt.

1263
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,500
This is gone by the morning.
Toting, you a 100.

1264
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,900
How do you was rough?
Miami was rough.

1265
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,300
What was your waist for Genuine
Draft?

1266
01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:56,800
But ODU was the one but that was
a good one here.

1267
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:06,000
That was it really just like
framed everything we came in

1268
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,800
with so much up like maybe we
could pull this together.

1269
01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,800
Maybe, like with this new stamp
this year baby.

1270
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:16,000
We got this easy schedule.
Eating with 30 you let's do

1271
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:17,700
this.
That was rough.

1272
01:18:17,700 --> 01:18:23,700
That was really, really rough
out of this.

1273
01:18:23,700 --> 01:18:28,800
A Georgia Tech because one of my
best friends died, he had a

1274
01:18:28,808 --> 01:18:32,400
heart attack and passed away.
So during the Georgia Tech game,

1275
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:37,200
I went back with back, home to
bury him, and I was, of course,

1276
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:40,600
not watching the game scene, was
kind of losing.

1277
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:44,300
So I'm back on the road
Backwoods head.

1278
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,700
It to my brother's house and I'm
like, oh shit, we might win.

1279
01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:49,900
We didn't fucking win.
We lost by one point.

1280
01:18:49,900 --> 01:18:54,100
Like we always do and it ripped
my heart out, man.

1281
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:55,900
I want you drive my car off in
the ditch.

1282
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,900
I didn't want to die, but I want
to drop my car off in the ditch

1283
01:18:58,900 --> 01:19:02,800
to maybe get some, get some help
nurse or something.

1284
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,000
But it was pretty rough.
Tally.

1285
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,900
Feeling like me and Curtis did
last year with the Syracuse

1286
01:19:07,900 --> 01:19:10,900
game.
Yeah, we encourage me and Curtis

1287
01:19:10,900 --> 01:19:15,400
drove down on South Boston, to
Very afraid, good friend of

1288
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:19,100
ours, Brian Wilkerson and we get
out the car.

1289
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:23,200
We got a lead against Syracuse,
looking pretty good, right?

1290
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:28,500
And you know, there's the
memorial and then as we checking

1291
01:19:28,500 --> 01:19:30,300
in its kind of things are
wrapping up.

1292
01:19:30,700 --> 01:19:32,500
We're like, oh shit.
We're going to fucking lose this

1293
01:19:32,500 --> 01:19:35,300
game.
And well, it went from, we're

1294
01:19:35,300 --> 01:19:37,600
going to win this game to.
We're going to lose this game.

1295
01:19:37,900 --> 01:19:40,900
Yeah, of course, I five minutes
and that was brutal.

1296
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:43,400
Go ahead.
What's yours, Brian?

1297
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:49,300
The one that hurt the most, to
me, I'm gonna go with Georgia

1298
01:19:49,300 --> 01:19:50,700
Tech as well because that's a
game.

1299
01:19:50,700 --> 01:19:55,000
We should have fucking one when
you get when you get a

1300
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:59,000
quarterback, that hasn't played
that significant time.

1301
01:19:59,700 --> 01:20:04,000
And you get a team that has the
deficiencies that are Georgia

1302
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:07,600
Tech does in a conference game.
You should handle your business

1303
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,400
and we didn't we didn't close it
out in the fourth.

1304
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:16,300
So that went to me, stung the
most, I get o to you, but there

1305
01:20:16,300 --> 01:20:19,000
was a lot of moving Parts with
ODU at Georgia Tech.

1306
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,800
We should have had those things
figured out.

1307
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:22,800
All right.
I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna

1308
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:26,200
go complete opposite but just
different from all y'all Jeremy

1309
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:31,100
mention this one.
I'm going to go Miami and the

1310
01:20:31,100 --> 01:20:34,500
reason I go Miami is because
let's think about what had

1311
01:20:34,500 --> 01:20:37,700
happened at West Virginia and
North Carolina named pip.

1312
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,600
It's right there.
We we almost got it, right?

1313
01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:42,400
We lost by six teams.
It was right there.

1314
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,400
Miami, they come out.
We play like dog crap for three

1315
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,700
quarters and then we start
knocking them in the fourth and

1316
01:20:47,700 --> 01:20:49,700
knocking them.
And it's sitting there and it's

1317
01:20:49,700 --> 01:20:53,500
like, we get one stop.
We're going to win this game.

1318
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,600
And the reason I put that as my
worst loss, because I think if

1319
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:01,000
we win that game, I think you
look at the schedule, I think by

1320
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:03,400
that time, we've learned to win,
we don't lose State.

1321
01:21:03,700 --> 01:21:06,700
We don't lose, Georgia Tech.
I think we play a better game

1322
01:21:06,700 --> 01:21:09,600
against you.
I think that game was that that

1323
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,300
swing that basically said, if
it's a close game, we're going

1324
01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:14,400
to lose and against a better
team, we're going to lose.

1325
01:21:14,900 --> 01:21:17,700
So I'm going to go here.
Let's go through some of the

1326
01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:22,100
folks, devs, talk to us.
We've got Matt Neal saying the

1327
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:26,500
Georgia Tech game for this year.
Our buddy coach Compton says, it

1328
01:21:26,500 --> 01:21:28,900
was the NC State submit Enid
mental.

1329
01:21:28,900 --> 01:21:34,300
The momentum, Levar agrees with
some of y'all with the ODU, John

1330
01:21:34,300 --> 01:21:37,400
goes state.
I'm gonna throw this though

1331
01:21:37,700 --> 01:21:40,700
because in John and Robbie puts
us in the chat, and we're going

1332
01:21:40,700 --> 01:21:42,700
to roll it from here because
this is the fun night for us.

1333
01:21:43,100 --> 01:21:47,200
Yeah, we just, Johnston has
Peach Bowl. 06 was the hardest

1334
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:54,500
loss of all time. 07 Boston
College is Elaine.

1335
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:00,000
No, hesitation by Jeremy.
Thank you, fucking that.

1336
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:04,700
Goddamn run right now, it's
fucking or before that game you

1337
01:22:04,700 --> 01:22:07,900
know we're struggling right now.
We got no steam.

1338
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:13,500
You got no one, I bet hinder
phone but that 007 game, all

1339
01:22:13,500 --> 01:22:15,500
this shit that's going to have a
minute run.

1340
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,100
Hold on, Jeremy.
You aren't letter grade your,

1341
01:22:20,100 --> 01:22:24,600
you want to hold on.
You were an undergrad in 07, did

1342
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,900
you even sleep?
Or did you just break basically

1343
01:22:26,900 --> 01:22:30,600
into the weekend?
I just kept drinking, it's kept

1344
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,600
drinking.
I was actually visiting, like, I

1345
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:38,200
went to Tech like for two years
and then I transferred back for

1346
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,700
a girl and then I came back and
finished out at Tech and then

1347
01:22:40,700 --> 01:22:43,200
went to pharmacy school.
That was one of the years that I

1348
01:22:43,208 --> 01:22:47,400
actually wasn't enrolled at deck
and then I came back for that

1349
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:51,900
game.
All right, got it O7.

1350
01:22:51,900 --> 01:22:54,200
B.
And then I drank all through the

1351
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,100
weekend.
I killed my liver.

1352
01:22:56,300 --> 01:23:03,400
All right, tally.
I gotta go probably the ACC

1353
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:10,600
championship against against
Clemson 2016. just I mean, all

1354
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,000
of these games are rough, but
What it would have kept.

1355
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,900
Once I hit a little bit longer,
maybe, but I mean, I feel like

1356
01:23:16,900 --> 01:23:20,300
that would have said the program
on a totally different

1357
01:23:20,300 --> 01:23:22,600
trajectory.
If we win that game, we win the

1358
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:26,800
ACC that year true because you
had, you know, Clemson was was

1359
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:31,900
big dog and that we lost by 7
points, we lose right there, we

1360
01:23:31,900 --> 01:23:34,600
had to ride.
Who knows?

1361
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,300
You know, we win that game.
We talk somebody into coming

1362
01:23:37,300 --> 01:23:41,700
back and maybe we pushed the.
We push a playoff, but I don't

1363
01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:43,600
know what, you know, now was
pretty rough.

1364
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,900
It sets a precedent.
You just beat the big dog.

1365
01:23:45,900 --> 01:23:48,500
You just be a teen went to the
National Championship.

1366
01:23:48,500 --> 01:23:50,700
I see what you're saying,
because that one was, because

1367
01:23:50,700 --> 01:23:54,600
literally, you're right there at
the doorstep, and if you listen

1368
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,700
to what buente said, he says if
we punch it in.

1369
01:23:56,700 --> 01:23:59,400
Right, there we go, for two.
We don't let that thing go to

1370
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,100
overtime.
So yeah, that was a

1371
01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:03,500
heartbreaking one.
Yeah, Brian.

1372
01:24:03,700 --> 01:24:05,000
God.
I remember I was usually

1373
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:09,300
experience here.
What do you say, honestly,

1374
01:24:09,300 --> 01:24:11,700
Boise?
Because I feel if we beat Boise.

1375
01:24:12,700 --> 01:24:14,700
You don't lose 2010, we don't
lose.

1376
01:24:14,700 --> 01:24:18,700
We don't lose J mu, we run the
fucking table, and that's a

1377
01:24:18,708 --> 01:24:21,200
fucking potential National
Championship fucking football

1378
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:25,500
team.
I run have that game-winning

1379
01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:28,600
drive and then we did caved.
He just caved.

1380
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:31,900
I'm going to go.
It's right there.

1381
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:37,100
USC at FedEx in 2004 is the
roughest one for me.

1382
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:39,900
A, I was unfortunately I watched
this game.

1383
01:24:39,900 --> 01:24:43,700
That's my number to Curtis.
I appreciate Robbie mention it,

1384
01:24:43,700 --> 01:24:46,600
and Curtis bringing it from
here, Robbie was at the game

1385
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:48,600
with our buddy.
Brian who passing other buddy,

1386
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,200
Jason who does the music for the
show?

1387
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:54,000
They went up there, they were
Whereas basically blood blood

1388
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,200
seats and yes it wasn't an OPI.
It was not an OPI.

1389
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:02,100
I was in Farmville Brian was in
football camp.

1390
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:07,800
And basically, I'd like nobody
to watch the game with I'm

1391
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,500
getting drunk.
So I got hammered in my

1392
01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:12,100
apartment and go out.
After they lose the game, I'm

1393
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:16,300
hammering I'm in an angry state,
but that game was, it's still

1394
01:25:16,300 --> 01:25:19,800
the most heartbreaking one,
because it wasn't anything, we

1395
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,600
did on field.
It literally was the refs

1396
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:25,900
affected that OPI called goes,
the opposite way.

1397
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,400
If it goes, yeah, they don't
call it, we score a touchdown.

1398
01:25:29,500 --> 01:25:31,900
I don't think USC comes back and
takes a game.

1399
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:34,900
We've A lot more on here.
Hold on we're going to be going

1400
01:25:34,900 --> 01:25:38,700
over old dear brother.
Nobody said Michigan Lee Hall

1401
01:25:38,700 --> 01:25:42,300
represent Lee Hall represent.
That was that was that was that

1402
01:25:42,300 --> 01:25:45,100
was my wife storm in 2006 and
2007.

1403
01:25:45,100 --> 01:25:48,000
So shout out Dale for the
reference they're just so

1404
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,100
everybody.
How Robbie basically was hurt

1405
01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:54,600
until Tuesday of that game in
that was only Labor Day weekend.

1406
01:25:55,300 --> 01:26:00,200
USC, Brian dress job.
Dustin Dale's with u BC.

1407
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:04,300
O 6.
Oh yeah, that was that was.

1408
01:26:04,300 --> 01:26:09,100
Yeah, I forgot about that, man.
Good reference on again.

1409
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,500
This is why this is so much fun
because we're drunk and it does

1410
01:26:12,500 --> 01:26:15,700
just takes us in the fun places,
all right?

1411
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:20,300
All right, so let's let's pull
back when we get back, Curtis

1412
01:26:20,300 --> 01:26:23,200
steers the ship unfortunately
and when Curtis is drinking to

1413
01:26:24,100 --> 01:26:25,800
sleep on steer.
All right.

1414
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,800
Let's go into as you tell eidos
how much I poured in my glass so

1415
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:32,400
you know, I'm not doing this
shit, you scared him.

1416
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:44,600
You scared him.
So, let's talk about this.

1417
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:50,600
Kind of evaluate him year one,
you know, from he's been in the

1418
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,900
job.
Now little over fifty four

1419
01:26:52,900 --> 01:26:57,500
weeks.
After year one Jeremy, what

1420
01:26:57,500 --> 01:26:59,200
doesn't worry you about Britt
Pratt.

1421
01:26:59,500 --> 01:27:00,800
Being a head coach Virginia
Tech.

1422
01:27:01,300 --> 01:27:06,400
Ah well biggest thing he seems
up in the change, he's a, he's

1423
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:10,700
okay, Switching midseason, which
we didn't have a lot to lose but

1424
01:27:10,700 --> 01:27:12,600
he's okay.
Midseason is switching up the

1425
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,200
entire offensive scheme.
I'm okay with that.

1426
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:20,500
Like that makes me happy.
Also, what I'm doesn't worry me

1427
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:24,500
is, Mars came in late in the
season and started.

1428
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:29,100
Conda fits in place and that
turned out to be okay.

1429
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:34,500
And we were all kind of worried
about that for a bit but turned

1430
01:27:34,500 --> 01:27:35,100
out.
Okay.

1431
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:42,000
I'm with you there I'm with you,
there it will talk about that

1432
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:47,500
some more Eric on the backside
here about whether or not price.

1433
01:27:47,500 --> 01:27:51,400
Should've may be handing the
keys over a little sooner in the

1434
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:55,000
season.
Yes maybe tally.

1435
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,200
He tried to knock her up a
little bit when he had other

1436
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,300
things that he wasn't used to
the worried about, but we'll get

1437
01:28:00,300 --> 01:28:01,300
into that later.
All right.

1438
01:28:01,300 --> 01:28:06,700
Well, I guess I would oh I don't
know man I guess the know it's

1439
01:28:06,700 --> 01:28:10,200
hard to say this but The loss is
really didn't worry me this year

1440
01:28:10,700 --> 01:28:13,000
because my expectations wasn't
as high as some people.

1441
01:28:13,100 --> 01:28:15,800
Okay.
You feel me like yeah yeah yeah.

1442
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,100
I'm with the losses.
We were definitely temper.

1443
01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:21,900
You had more temperate and
expectations as I think the

1444
01:28:21,900 --> 01:28:25,200
majority of the fan base.
If we're being, the thing is

1445
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,900
also with the losses.
He was like he's still like put

1446
01:28:29,900 --> 01:28:31,600
his dick on the table.
You know what I'm saying?

1447
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:37,500
Yeah, you don't keep your man.
Listen, he killed every enemy.

1448
01:28:37,700 --> 01:28:39,700
View.
You know it was like he was

1449
01:28:39,700 --> 01:28:42,300
never like man fuck that coach
you know I'm saying like if you

1450
01:28:42,300 --> 01:28:45,200
are fan and you really watch the
team but never like man fuck

1451
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:46,500
him.
He ain't gonna be a good coach.

1452
01:28:46,700 --> 01:28:50,700
You still was like damn I want
to win but I think I know what

1453
01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:52,900
he's trying to say.
I think I know where the program

1454
01:28:52,900 --> 01:28:55,500
is going.
So that the long how he fucked

1455
01:28:55,500 --> 01:28:58,800
up.
Yeah and he didn't just come out

1456
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:09,800
and go gosh we didn't execute He
was rich, but he's always been

1457
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:11,800
that way.
He's like real open with his

1458
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,300
interviews and shit.
And she is one, you know what

1459
01:29:14,308 --> 01:29:16,500
I'm saying?
Like, me being a car salesman,

1460
01:29:16,900 --> 01:29:19,600
you have to be real genuine with
people, and you can notice when

1461
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,600
people are genuine feels like
when he is in interviews.

1462
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,200
He's very genuine with the
stuff.

1463
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,600
He's saying even, you know, I
know we're gonna get into

1464
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,800
recruiting and stuff.
Oh, yeah and stuff that he says,

1465
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:36,700
to the kids seems very genuine.
He's not promising anything that

1466
01:29:36,700 --> 01:29:38,100
he can't produce.
For him.

1467
01:29:38,300 --> 01:29:39,900
Yeah.
But he's telling them the truth,

1468
01:29:39,900 --> 01:29:43,200
you know, hey, I'm recruiting a
couple of people drop position.

1469
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,300
I think you can come in and make
a difference but you got to come

1470
01:29:47,300 --> 01:29:49,700
in with these other people
during its oh shit.

1471
01:29:49,700 --> 01:29:53,900
Like that was was was didn't
worry me that the ales I guess?

1472
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,600
Yeah.
I can tell you that about Pride.

1473
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,600
He is very genuine like if you
talk to him in person or

1474
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,700
whatever he will make you feel
like the most important person

1475
01:30:02,700 --> 01:30:07,400
in the room and he's just he's
got that he knows how he's got

1476
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:08,100
charisma.
Asthma.

1477
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:13,000
He gets it.
He gets it.

1478
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:38,700
you know, that Frank Knows that
you want to talk to him.

1479
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,000
No.
And he voiced the fact that you

1480
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,000
want to talk to him prize like
that.

1481
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,800
Like he genuinely enjoys that
you want to come up to him and

1482
01:30:47,900 --> 01:30:50,600
say hello to him.
Having seen him twice in person.

1483
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:54,100
Yeah, I 100% agree with that and
we got the just in the few

1484
01:30:54,100 --> 01:30:57,700
minutes at the Hardy would have
been in literally he was before

1485
01:30:57,700 --> 01:31:00,500
us he was talking with an older
lady and he you could see he

1486
01:31:00,500 --> 01:31:04,200
crafted it to make sure this is
about her and her moment when we

1487
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:06,900
went up there, he was slamming
beers with us, he chugged it.

1488
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:09,000
Here with us.
It was just like these guys are

1489
01:31:09,000 --> 01:31:10,800
here having fun.
They want to have fun.

1490
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:12,800
The guy behind him was serious
shook.

1491
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:15,700
His hand look, very concerned.
So to that point.

1492
01:31:15,700 --> 01:31:18,500
Yes.
Why I'm not worried two things

1493
01:31:18,500 --> 01:31:21,300
defensively.
I think his scheme is going to

1494
01:31:21,300 --> 01:31:24,300
attract some Talent there.
Going to be some kids that come

1495
01:31:24,300 --> 01:31:27,800
here that we're going to be
like, how do we pull that?

1496
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:31,600
Like holy shit but the second
piece goes to what tally said.

1497
01:31:32,900 --> 01:31:36,800
He goes in their understanding.
You do not brush your players,

1498
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:39,500
you don't throw them under the
bus because the execution should

1499
01:31:39,500 --> 01:31:43,400
immediately, says players.
And he's basically it's that's

1500
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,600
on us coaches.
You heard a lot of coaches

1501
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,300
coaches.
It's basically how many times

1502
01:31:48,300 --> 01:31:50,200
did he say?
It's our job to get them ready.

1503
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,800
And we didn't do it.
We didn't do the job right this

1504
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,500
week.
And when you hear that, it's

1505
01:31:54,500 --> 01:31:58,300
basically you're taking that
ownership to like what you said,

1506
01:31:58,300 --> 01:32:01,600
Talley we lost the game but you
know what?

1507
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:03,100
He didn't third a player.
Under the boss.

1508
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:05,800
He didn't say it was arrest
fall, he put it on himself to

1509
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:09,400
say, I gotta be better and when
you hear that as a fan and

1510
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:14,000
especially in this group right
here, we watch a ton of games.

1511
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,700
You know, we do the podcast
Jeremy's there, supporting the

1512
01:32:17,700 --> 01:32:19,700
team, not only being in the
city.

1513
01:32:19,700 --> 01:32:22,100
Tally, you do your spaces,
you've got Communications with

1514
01:32:22,100 --> 01:32:26,700
so many people, that's a lot
that goes, a long ways, Brian.

1515
01:32:26,700 --> 01:32:31,400
I'm sorry, I got really a
swarthy there, but Curtis

1516
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:32,900
getting worried know.
No way.

1517
01:32:32,900 --> 01:32:37,200
No no fucking way guys.
Scotch the only the only known

1518
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,200
me 26 years.
No fucking way.

1519
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,900
Curtis getting worthy.
Nah man.

1520
01:32:41,900 --> 01:32:46,800
Pontificate.
So the thing that doesn't worry

1521
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,600
me is that?
I've seen a staff that is

1522
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:54,800
willing to self-assess and then
make changes.

1523
01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:00,700
That's the thing, long term
that's going to pay dividends

1524
01:33:00,700 --> 01:33:04,100
for this staff because you're
not always going to have the

1525
01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:07,400
guys that can get it done.
And I know this year is a

1526
01:33:07,407 --> 01:33:09,900
particularly bad situation in
that.

1527
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:12,400
You've got a roster that you
were.

1528
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:17,700
Number one inherited.
Number two, was probably in the

1529
01:33:17,700 --> 01:33:24,500
bottom five in terms of overall
roster talent in power 5, right?

1530
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:30,900
So, You're working with slim
pickings. and there was a

1531
01:33:30,900 --> 01:33:33,800
willingness to make changes as
things goes a long and that's

1532
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,900
going to pay dividends I think
long-term So that that's that's

1533
01:33:37,900 --> 01:33:40,500
my big, that that doesn't worry
me.

1534
01:33:40,500 --> 01:33:44,300
If things aren't working Pride
will make the adjustment.

1535
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:49,700
So what does were you wrong?
What does where you going in?

1536
01:33:49,700 --> 01:33:53,900
Because we were three, a what
worries me is that when we look

1537
01:33:53,900 --> 01:33:59,200
at the offense it took a lot of
little bit longer than I wanted

1538
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:02,000
to to make some of those
changes.

1539
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:07,500
So we look at the timetable, we
need to look at.

1540
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:10,700
Okay, what is working?
What isn't working and how can

1541
01:34:10,700 --> 01:34:13,500
we make differences?
And I said earlier, it's hard to

1542
01:34:13,500 --> 01:34:16,800
make changes in midseason, but
at the same time, if it's not

1543
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:22,500
working I don't want a wholesale
philosophy changes, but I want

1544
01:34:22,500 --> 01:34:26,900
to see tweaks and adjustments
week to week, and I don't think

1545
01:34:26,900 --> 01:34:31,100
we saw a enough of them soon
enough in the season, where we

1546
01:34:31,100 --> 01:34:35,500
can kind of build something in
the back end, it took kind of

1547
01:34:35,500 --> 01:34:39,200
getting to that bye week and
making those adjustments, to

1548
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,800
where we kind of saw a little
bit of a difference on the back

1549
01:34:41,800 --> 01:34:44,700
end.
So that would be my concern is

1550
01:34:44,700 --> 01:34:48,200
that not quite evaluating quick
enough.

1551
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:52,300
What is and what isn't working
best for that scheme?

1552
01:34:54,300 --> 01:34:57,300
Jeremy tally with concerns.
Y'all got to who wants to go

1553
01:34:57,300 --> 01:35:00,800
first.
I mean that was my first one was

1554
01:35:01,300 --> 01:35:06,000
offensive identity we have to
find it and we may be recruiting

1555
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:12,500
people and bringing in transfer
portal people to come in and try

1556
01:35:12,500 --> 01:35:15,600
to change the identity but we
have to find that identity first

1557
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:20,700
and my second thing is we have
to start pulling in not just

1558
01:35:20,700 --> 01:35:23,200
transfers.
We have to start pulling in the

1559
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:26,200
top level recruits from our
state and we'll get into that

1560
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:30,800
later.
But Yeah, that's my to concerns

1561
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:36,700
that concern, you know kind of
what Brian is saying and Jeremy

1562
01:35:36,700 --> 01:35:40,900
as well.
Was I feel like, you know, they

1563
01:35:40,900 --> 01:35:45,300
have the identity that they want
even if you watch I think the

1564
01:35:45,300 --> 01:35:48,600
Liberty game it was saying, well
this is what Virginia Tech

1565
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,100
should be.
This is what Virginia Tech's,

1566
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:53,500
you beat good defense and then
power football.

1567
01:35:54,500 --> 01:35:59,700
So the lack of physicality was
my concern because you Have five

1568
01:35:59,700 --> 01:36:03,100
and six years in college
football nowadays to get that

1569
01:36:03,100 --> 01:36:05,300
and get it, right?
It's like if you don't get it

1570
01:36:05,300 --> 01:36:09,100
right going into this year we're
fucked and coaching staff your

1571
01:36:09,100 --> 01:36:12,000
fuck to because expectations
will be high.

1572
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:14,800
No matter who you put on the
field, I don't care if every

1573
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:18,900
starter breaks their leg, these
fans want to see some wind, you

1574
01:36:18,900 --> 01:36:21,700
know.
So year to has to be much better

1575
01:36:21,700 --> 01:36:25,100
than your one.
And physically will we be there?

1576
01:36:25,700 --> 01:36:27,800
If you go watch man's sword to
lame.

1577
01:36:27,900 --> 01:36:32,200
Play.
You can see, he was in the right

1578
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:36,100
positions, a lot of times, he
just wasn't physically gifted

1579
01:36:36,200 --> 01:36:38,400
not gifted.
He wasn't physically strong

1580
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:42,400
enough, but maybe man the ball
away from the, from the office

1581
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,400
of player.
That to get there in year two.

1582
01:36:45,700 --> 01:36:49,000
We hope so cause he's got the
technique, it has comes out to

1583
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,100
the weight room now.
But I mean, he was like, yeah,

1584
01:36:51,100 --> 01:36:53,700
that's a big Point.
Their tally, I love this.

1585
01:36:53,700 --> 01:36:56,900
It is a big love that point.
I think he is given a few more

1586
01:36:56,900 --> 01:36:59,900
years of time.
I think I don't think you're

1587
01:36:59,900 --> 01:37:02,400
looking at the three normal
because I think what happened

1588
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:04,700
this year in the powers of
being, a lot of the money makers

1589
01:37:04,700 --> 01:37:07,100
saw.
Holy God, we didn't have

1590
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:10,100
anything on this team.
We'd have anything on this team.

1591
01:37:10,100 --> 01:37:14,500
It's going to take a few extra
years, but my more biggest CERN

1592
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:19,700
it might be already changing
from what we've seen today was

1593
01:37:19,700 --> 01:37:22,800
how he came in and build it.
Like he just came in and we had

1594
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:26,000
five transfers last year.
We did, we didn't bring in a big

1595
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:29,300
overhaul even though you felt
like, that's what we needed.

1596
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,100
He didn't do that.
Now it's changing this year.

1597
01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:35,300
So maybe maybe the piece I'm
worried about about, you know,

1598
01:37:35,300 --> 01:37:39,600
we know, we know you need to lay
a foundation and build it, but

1599
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:42,000
you should be able to as a head
coach lay that foundation.

1600
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,900
With whoever you pull in because
that's Your job, right?

1601
01:37:45,100 --> 01:37:47,200
You've been to the salesman
thing as a sales and you should

1602
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,100
know that guy.
I know what he wants.

1603
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,200
I can get him here.
I can make you feel this, right?

1604
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,300
I can make it feel.
I can make it fit in so we're

1605
01:37:55,300 --> 01:37:57,500
seeing it already with the
number of portal guys.

1606
01:37:57,500 --> 01:38:00,700
We've gotten already and what he
said today about more common

1607
01:38:00,700 --> 01:38:03,000
which were going to talk about
later, Jeremy, you're really

1608
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:05,800
good at at ease.
Thumbs up buddy, Jeremy knows

1609
01:38:05,800 --> 01:38:07,000
how to tease what we're gonna
talk about.

1610
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:10,000
Well, I'm Jeremy.
So I'm Jared.

1611
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,400
So that's the concern of like my
concern is started getting to

1612
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,600
leave.
Where he started making those

1613
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:17,300
changes.
He's changing his offseason

1614
01:38:17,300 --> 01:38:20,700
philosophies already, and you've
already seen it, he's not

1615
01:38:20,700 --> 01:38:23,600
sticking with the status quote.
We're looking at different

1616
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:26,400
quarterbacks we're looking at
updating the ride receiver room.

1617
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,900
He's not just sitting there he's
moving quickly.

1618
01:38:29,900 --> 01:38:35,800
So yeah, now I'll say this, the
next thing I want to talk about

1619
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,300
is how much do we think run the
defense hurt his development of

1620
01:38:38,300 --> 01:38:39,500
the game?
Because I think it hurt him

1621
01:38:39,500 --> 01:38:43,400
significantly because as you
said it was later in the year,

1622
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:47,000
Marv started calling being more
involved as we heard.

1623
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:51,600
We know he called the last game
because Brian you have to tell

1624
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:56,100
them what you talked about
observing on the sidelines of

1625
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:59,600
those last few games because it
was just like it was night and

1626
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,400
day.
You saw him all the time making

1627
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:04,100
notes making notes but you never
saw him engaging players.

1628
01:39:04,100 --> 01:39:07,100
He was making the notes and you
thought that was really because

1629
01:39:07,100 --> 01:39:09,600
of his duties as the DC for this
year.

1630
01:39:09,900 --> 01:39:13,700
Yeah, my beef was always.
So I want my head.

1631
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,200
Coach.
As soon as the group is coming

1632
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:20,300
off the field, I want my head
coach engaging with them,

1633
01:39:20,300 --> 01:39:23,000
talking about what they saw,
what they didn't see what was

1634
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:25,800
working, what wasn't working.
You can't do that.

1635
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:29,000
If you've got to turn around and
call a defense with your

1636
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:32,100
offense, so, you're you're not
as engaged with the offensive

1637
01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:35,400
side of the ball.
If you got to go ahead and call

1638
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:39,400
a defense, when you should be
talking to your quarterback and

1639
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,000
say all right, what did you see?
What did you see what was

1640
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:43,400
working?
What's not working?

1641
01:39:44,900 --> 01:39:48,400
Talking to the offensive line.
Hey, we're they stunt in here,

1642
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:50,300
where they bring in some extra
pressure here.

1643
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:54,500
Why was why did we miss a blitz
pickup here?

1644
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:57,600
There's so many like interest
either secrecies?

1645
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:01,300
That were not picked up because
proud was focused on calling the

1646
01:40:01,300 --> 01:40:04,400
defense.
On the offensive side of the

1647
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:08,800
ball that I think could have
potentially been alleviated as

1648
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:10,700
you going forward.
Especially with a guy like your

1649
01:40:10,700 --> 01:40:13,900
offensive coordinator up in the
booth and pry on the sidelines,

1650
01:40:13,900 --> 01:40:16,500
right?
So that that was my biggest

1651
01:40:16,500 --> 01:40:19,600
thing with that.
What about y'all boys?

1652
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:23,100
What y'all think?
I mean you're kind of wood you

1653
01:40:23,100 --> 01:40:25,100
know to go off of what Brian was
saying as well.

1654
01:40:25,500 --> 01:40:28,800
I think a couple of times
probably even said it.

1655
01:40:29,500 --> 01:40:32,000
He said something to the effect
that in yard don't quote me but

1656
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,200
he was like I mean we did we did
what we could do.

1657
01:40:35,300 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaking of the defense, we just
needed some help.

1658
01:40:38,700 --> 01:40:41,800
Well it ain't you not just the
defense you did head coach.

1659
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:47,000
So shaming you gotta he was so
focused on that defense and

1660
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,700
trying to get that defense right
but I feel sometimes he put that

1661
01:40:50,700 --> 01:40:53,900
offense into somebody else's
hand and you see the difference.

1662
01:40:53,900 --> 01:40:58,300
So when you see Marv, take over
a little bit more towards the

1663
01:40:58,300 --> 01:41:01,500
end.
It was a it was good to see like

1664
01:41:01,500 --> 01:41:04,400
you said, prior was Getting
people, when they came off the

1665
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,500
field asking them, you know, hey
what did you see?

1666
01:41:07,500 --> 01:41:10,600
Things like that?
Because as a head coach, I mean,

1667
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,500
especially a new head coach,
somebody's been coaching a long

1668
01:41:13,500 --> 01:41:16,100
time.
They might, can we even work

1669
01:41:16,100 --> 01:41:19,200
that, that those different
angles, but a brand new head

1670
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:24,500
coach of the new at a new place?
It's like, you got to be in tune

1671
01:41:24,500 --> 01:41:26,800
with those guys when they're
coming off, and he just didn't

1672
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:30,400
have enough time to do that.
Trying to run that offense and

1673
01:41:30,700 --> 01:41:34,300
run, run the game.
Jeremy.

1674
01:41:36,500 --> 01:41:42,300
Yeah, that was one of my biggest
concerns in general was the fact

1675
01:41:42,300 --> 01:41:47,000
that I love bra and probably has
a lot of experience as

1676
01:41:47,000 --> 01:41:50,900
coordinator.
He was a new head coach and he

1677
01:41:50,900 --> 01:41:53,700
is learning on the job and he
also brought in a defensive

1678
01:41:53,700 --> 01:41:56,800
coordinator to learn on the job
who wasn't offensive coordinator

1679
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,500
before.
So he felt the need to come down

1680
01:41:59,500 --> 01:42:04,100
and do what he used to do and
kind of micromanage and that

1681
01:42:04,200 --> 01:42:10,200
inhibited his development as a
head coach, but I think it's

1682
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,500
going to be.
Alright, Mark did okay.

1683
01:42:15,100 --> 01:42:17,000
I think it's going to be better
from now on.

1684
01:42:17,700 --> 01:42:19,900
What am I supposed to do?
I don't have a crystal ball.

1685
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:22,100
I'm fucking hoping at this
point.

1686
01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:25,000
Damn, it is true.
It's true.

1687
01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:27,900
Look into your crystal ball.
Jeremy, come on, man.

1688
01:42:27,900 --> 01:42:30,200
That's something they're man.
Well let me ask y'all fellas,

1689
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:31,200
mr.
Jameson.

1690
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:33,300
What's he saying?
All right.

1691
01:42:33,500 --> 01:42:36,200
Look grand prize.
Let's look at the next year.

1692
01:42:37,200 --> 01:43:15,100
We hope to God.
Remember what this episode and

1693
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:18,300
about minute 70.
Jeremy blacks out for the rest

1694
01:43:18,300 --> 01:43:21,500
of the episode.
He said, let's face, but he

1695
01:43:21,500 --> 01:43:24,600
blacks out, it was actually,
with us for here was just like,

1696
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:26,400
is he?
Okay, then he'd make a comment

1697
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:30,400
and be like, okay, that was
okay, but he was fucked up, he

1698
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:35,400
was blindsided me.
That's actually like my normal

1699
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:39,900
drinking, if it's not and it
just, I had native Soldier.

1700
01:43:39,900 --> 01:43:42,600
He's gotta eat some pizza, some
cheeseburgers before this

1701
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:53,900
episode.
Right, and a chili chili, what

1702
01:43:53,900 --> 01:43:58,300
staff member impressed you most
this year, anytime you can lead

1703
01:43:58,300 --> 01:44:00,500
on this one?
I don't know, man.

1704
01:44:00,500 --> 01:44:04,700
I guess I like I like Mars.
I mean, I got a cousin that that

1705
01:44:04,700 --> 01:44:08,600
coaches High School football and
he's pretty close with Mars.

1706
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:11,200
So I watch them really close
this year.

1707
01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:13,300
Just his interaction with the
players.

1708
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:15,800
Different things you do.
And I feel like when he got his

1709
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:19,200
shot he did what he was supposed
to do him and fantails

1710
01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:21,800
recruiting I guess.
Like that's that's what

1711
01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:25,600
impressed me those motherfuckers
Relentless fine.

1712
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:28,500
Detail is locked up the a do for
you.

1713
01:44:28,500 --> 01:44:29,700
And we're going to talk about
that.

1714
01:44:29,700 --> 01:44:32,500
After I said, I know we getting
into that that recruiting to be

1715
01:44:32,500 --> 01:44:35,000
getting close to recruit.
I gotta give him his crop

1716
01:44:35,500 --> 01:44:38,900
Jeremy.
That's actually mine pick to

1717
01:44:38,900 --> 01:44:43,200
Marfa dead on impressed.
I'm really happy.

1718
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:45,500
With the thing with the way
things are going.

1719
01:44:47,900 --> 01:44:51,500
What else can you say that?
It's straight up Marv right now

1720
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:56,800
the rest of our position groups,
it's going to take some time but

1721
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:00,300
Hey Robert.
I like you.

1722
01:45:00,300 --> 01:45:04,100
Yeah.
Just so, you know, Jeremy, that

1723
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:07,400
is a buddy of ours since we were
in middle school.

1724
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,100
He was in my wedding, he's been
a friend, he played football

1725
01:45:10,100 --> 01:45:12,600
with.
See you will meet him soon.

1726
01:45:12,600 --> 01:45:14,600
When we get up to Blacksburg,
going to bring out, he's

1727
01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:16,700
coaching football down and
Carolina right now.

1728
01:45:17,700 --> 01:45:20,200
Nice little jump on this one X
and I'm gonna go a little

1729
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,300
sideways.
Give me Pearson Prelude.

1730
01:45:22,300 --> 01:45:26,900
You know why that sumbitch
hadn't coached a Collegiate game

1731
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:30,000
until this year?
And you all take a look at the

1732
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:34,000
safety group from this year to
last year, we took a step up the

1733
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:36,800
waste Roman plate, people's had
his best season ever.

1734
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:41,600
Connor look better and you also
have a guy who has all the

1735
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:45,000
excuse of tech guy he's Tech
through and through he loves the

1736
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,400
place.
He literally retired from the

1737
01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:50,400
NFL and moved back to Radford to
coach High School, to be closer

1738
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:53,400
to the program, then he gets
involved with the Player

1739
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:56,000
Development.
And then he gets involved with

1740
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,200
the coaching itself and it's
already.

1741
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:01,700
Already.
I'm to my own horn.

1742
01:46:01,700 --> 01:46:06,200
Thanks, Matt.
Neal had been jumping up and you

1743
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,400
think about his personality.
And then you think about him

1744
01:46:09,400 --> 01:46:14,000
walking around with Jill, the
Bullring in other rings and Big

1745
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:18,200
East title rings and a Super
Bowl rings talking to kids about

1746
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:22,600
come here.
Play for me, you can plainly 14

1747
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:27,400
years.
See last night Mom, other than

1748
01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:32,700
Curtis sucking, his own dick
there a little bit, I'm gonna go

1749
01:46:32,700 --> 01:46:36,000
with, I'm gonna go with cheetah
here because I feel like for the

1750
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:41,600
23 class, we got a good class
coming in that is very cheetah

1751
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:46,700
focused.
Combine that with the delaying

1752
01:46:47,700 --> 01:46:52,000
numbers that were put up in
year, one to me.

1753
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:56,500
That's the answer for me.
So get give me cheating by a

1754
01:46:56,500 --> 01:46:58,800
hair.
I like what Curtis did with with

1755
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:02,800
Prelude though because Prelude
went out there and fuck some

1756
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:04,900
shit up.
And if we're going to be honest,

1757
01:47:04,900 --> 01:47:06,600
I'm going to go with Talia a
little bit here.

1758
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:09,700
Mine's went out there and crush
the recruiting this year.

1759
01:47:10,700 --> 01:47:13,000
Have you locked up the 804?
We're going to talk about that

1760
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:14,800
more after the break.
We are going to talk about that

1761
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,800
a lot more after the break.
All right, who's hot?

1762
01:47:18,300 --> 01:47:21,200
I mean, I think it's gonna be
easy but who's hot, who's on the

1763
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:23,700
hot seat or who is who's got
him?

1764
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:29,600
Souvenir to special teams coach.
Who's do you hope still got?

1765
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:34,800
I agree, still, you got to get
your shit together.

1766
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:36,400
We going to turn you into a
stoop.

1767
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:39,700
All right, get your shit
together.

1768
01:47:40,500 --> 01:47:43,800
I don't need no motherfucking
people fucking returning kicks

1769
01:47:43,800 --> 01:47:45,700
on us and we need to be
returning.

1770
01:47:45,700 --> 01:47:47,700
Some kids, get your shit
together.

1771
01:47:48,500 --> 01:47:51,800
Well he had the nuts to put a
true freshman upon to put on

1772
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,400
punt return.
Later cheese, Did he might as

1773
01:47:54,400 --> 01:48:00,700
well listen that takes balls of
that and no disrespect to none

1774
01:48:00,700 --> 01:48:03,500
of the players because I know
those players fucking work hard.

1775
01:48:03,500 --> 01:48:05,300
I'll be there.
Most of the balls for sure.

1776
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:09,400
It must listen.
If you ever put somebody like

1777
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:17,200
Jalen hosting pack their return
kicks on my team, he is a power

1778
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:33,400
back drinking here.
Okay, no, no one.

1779
01:48:33,500 --> 01:48:35,700
They're coming into a fucking
College

1780
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:53,200
while he goes around to or
something.

1781
01:48:53,200 --> 01:49:23,200
So
Every one of them.

1782
01:49:33,400 --> 01:49:37,600
You're right, you're fucking
right, he's lying.

1783
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:40,400
He no, no.
See, I know Robin.

1784
01:50:08,300 --> 01:50:27,100
And things like that.
So all right, so this is what

1785
01:50:27,100 --> 01:50:30,700
we're Going to do now you have
not, let me get one elf.

1786
01:50:42,500 --> 01:50:46,700
No, it's got to be, it's got to
be stew whole because other than

1787
01:50:46,700 --> 01:50:49,200
making the Tucker Holloway deal
work.

1788
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:52,700
I don't think we did a whole lot
on special teams that made us

1789
01:50:52,700 --> 01:50:55,900
better this year.
Combine that with the fact that

1790
01:50:55,900 --> 01:50:58,600
I know he was working with some
injured situations in the

1791
01:50:58,600 --> 01:51:03,200
backfield, but we saw way too
much and all respect to him.

1792
01:51:03,300 --> 01:51:07,100
We saw way too much.
Jalen Holston this year for this

1793
01:51:07,100 --> 01:51:09,600
to be a successful running back
rotation.

1794
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:12,300
It's to hold has something to
prove in year.

1795
01:51:12,300 --> 01:51:15,500
Two, he does have something to
show you in real to as a special

1796
01:51:15,500 --> 01:51:18,000
teams coach running back coach.
He was screwed.

1797
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,500
I mean good Lord, they put Bryce
Juke out there.

1798
01:51:20,500 --> 01:51:23,300
They burned all his red shirt
and came back there.

1799
01:51:23,700 --> 01:51:25,800
It's where do you mean?
What's up?

1800
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:30,100
Be D?
Squared u mean be B squared.

1801
01:51:32,300 --> 01:51:39,000
Use the dick named Curtis BD
brass Duke to be priced you guys

1802
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,600
a future.
You want to say, but somebody

1803
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:43,800
put it on here earlier and this
is me.

1804
01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:46,000
What happens when you get 6,000
homage.

1805
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:48,500
By the way, I love the comment.
Somebody talked about the

1806
01:51:48,508 --> 01:51:52,700
regression of Peter Moore.
Yeah, Peter Moore it look like

1807
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:57,200
he was like that too.
What but but what does he led?

1808
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:59,900
The gay.
So he we started the games,

1809
01:51:59,900 --> 01:52:02,600
really good.
And then like second and third

1810
01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:05,800
quarter you will fall off the
fucking map and then he like

1811
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,800
figure it out and fourth quarter
so who the hell knows.

1812
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:13,300
But so we No One Technical and I
Hot Seat but it's like do

1813
01:52:13,300 --> 01:52:15,200
better.
Do better?

1814
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,300
Yeah.
All right so before we begin at

1815
01:52:17,300 --> 01:52:20,200
least seven games in year two
and no one's on the fucking hot

1816
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:21,800
seat.
Hold on, hold on.

1817
01:52:22,500 --> 01:52:26,400
By the way, Matt Neal is taking
credit for that, that was him

1818
01:52:26,400 --> 01:52:27,500
that talked about the Peter
more.

1819
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:30,400
Sorry, Matt I could not find the
comment but thank you for

1820
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,500
acknowledging.
It was you we know we love you,

1821
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,500
alright, so before we get into
the fun stuff so we went through

1822
01:52:35,500 --> 01:52:38,200
the critical shit but we're
going to go in today, we're

1823
01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:41,300
going to talk about national
Signing Day the Class the

1824
01:52:41,300 --> 01:52:43,300
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1825
01:52:43,300 --> 01:52:45,800
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Now back to the episode All
right, we are back Jeremy's

1835
01:53:12,300 --> 01:53:15,000
disappeared.
I should have disappeared to but

1836
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:17,400
you know, it is what it is.
Maybe I'll just appear in a few

1837
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,100
minutes.
Some turn the camera off for a

1838
01:53:19,108 --> 01:53:23,000
second, but let's be for real.
Let's go into recruiting and

1839
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:26,500
let's go just kind of look high
level everything today, I want

1840
01:53:26,500 --> 01:53:28,700
to take a get first of all
y'all's opinions.

1841
01:53:28,700 --> 01:53:31,500
Did y'all see the like the did
y'all like the recruiting set

1842
01:53:31,500 --> 01:53:33,200
up?
The way they did it today with

1843
01:53:33,300 --> 01:53:35,300
having the podium different
members?

1844
01:53:35,300 --> 01:53:38,500
It was I know bud was on four
braids on which to me that was

1845
01:53:38,500 --> 01:53:42,900
super special Bud coach.
The sun's coming here, you had

1846
01:53:42,900 --> 01:53:45,500
members of the you had members
of The Faculty members of the

1847
01:53:45,500 --> 01:53:48,300
athletic, you know, staff
calling these guys.

1848
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,400
Did y'all like that?
So because to me, they may

1849
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:53,300
signing.
They feel fucking important

1850
01:53:53,300 --> 01:53:55,600
like, right?
This is, this is important for

1851
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:56,600
you guys.
What you got tally?

1852
01:53:57,300 --> 01:54:00,500
Yeah, I was, I was a little
disappointed at first at the

1853
01:54:00,508 --> 01:54:05,200
beginning of the morning because
I mean, the graphics didn't look

1854
01:54:05,200 --> 01:54:08,100
bad but with Justin have music
and I feel like we could have

1855
01:54:08,100 --> 01:54:12,000
did some other stuff with it,
but Then when I seen the setup,

1856
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:17,300
I was like, okay, this is I not
just for the fans but the big

1857
01:54:17,300 --> 01:54:20,200
money donors was there as well.
You know, they got that.

1858
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:24,500
They got the, they got the whip
kind of prank was that?

1859
01:54:24,500 --> 01:54:31,100
I had to pee, too.
We got with Jeremy.

1860
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:46,800
This is good because you got
fans involved as us what

1861
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:51,700
watching you got.
The big money, donors and in

1862
01:54:51,700 --> 01:54:57,200
faculty involved, you got
players families, high schools

1863
01:54:57,200 --> 01:55:00,000
involved because you got them on
the screen.

1864
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:05,200
So you made it about more than
just the coaching staff or even

1865
01:55:05,500 --> 01:55:08,400
just to player players had their
moments, but their families was

1866
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:10,400
there as well.
And you can see the coaches

1867
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,300
interacting with the families
which was awesome.

1868
01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,900
Can you see why they recruited?
Well, yeah.

1869
01:55:16,100 --> 01:55:19,300
Well, you think about that set
up today inside Merriman there?

1870
01:55:19,500 --> 01:55:23,600
R.
It was incredible, the pageantry

1871
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:28,200
of it all, like, it's great.
We brought everyone and we had

1872
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:31,500
the entire setup, you can tell
most of the coaches, they were

1873
01:55:31,800 --> 01:55:34,500
not ready for that early morning
bud.

1874
01:55:34,500 --> 01:55:37,200
Look like he just crawled out of
bed after a long day.

1875
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:40,700
Damn, holy shit.
He looked like you looking at me

1876
01:55:40,700 --> 01:55:45,400
waking up at 9 a.m. like what
the fuck and everyone just comes

1877
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:48,700
out because it's that important
it was like one of those like

1878
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:51,700
Things that you do.
It was almost like Christmas

1879
01:55:51,700 --> 01:55:56,300
morning where you crawl out and
you're just like done but you're

1880
01:55:56,300 --> 01:55:59,200
in it and it just like yes, this
is important.

1881
01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:01,400
And so they do that and they
bring up the families on the

1882
01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:06,600
screen, they bring up the kids.
And we act like this is such a

1883
01:56:06,608 --> 01:56:13,600
big moment because it is and we
give them that kind of Gravitas

1884
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:20,600
wonder, what is it because they
deserve it and that that makes

1885
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:22,600
me happy.
I love the way we did it.

1886
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,600
It makes me happy that we do
that for these kids, because in

1887
01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:27,900
the end, he's our kids and it
makes me mad.

1888
01:56:27,900 --> 01:56:30,800
Whenever people are just like,
no, no, don't call them kids.

1889
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,500
There are men there.
No, these are these, your kids

1890
01:56:34,100 --> 01:56:37,100
know, they love this and they
need to feel important.

1891
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:42,100
I love this right here.
They mentioned the the High

1892
01:56:42,100 --> 01:56:45,300
School coaches by name and stuff
like that and that's that's

1893
01:56:45,300 --> 01:56:48,000
their relationship.
He strike that we did, everybody

1894
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:51,900
that all of us who have met pry
or reading about pry.

1895
01:56:51,900 --> 01:56:55,200
It's like, it's the building of
relationships because that's

1896
01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:57,600
that ultimate point to y'all's
point, which I'll just said it's

1897
01:56:57,600 --> 01:56:59,800
like, it wasn't just that player
on the screen, right?

1898
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:02,000
They could have did the
announcement, but just the

1899
01:57:02,008 --> 01:57:05,300
player, they put the family,
they put the coach, they put the

1900
01:57:05,308 --> 01:57:07,500
whole high school, it's like
this one.

1901
01:57:07,700 --> 01:57:09,800
One holding compass and thing.
I think the setup was very I

1902
01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,200
think the concept was great.
I think they hit it.

1903
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:15,400
Yeah, the videos in the morning
that didn't have the audio.

1904
01:57:15,400 --> 01:57:17,300
It was like the graphics were
cool.

1905
01:57:17,300 --> 01:57:19,100
I like that.
But it was almost like, you

1906
01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:22,300
forgot, I forgot the music.
You've Got the Music.

1907
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:26,800
Another thing to take sign round
was trying to, they actually

1908
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:29,200
have some nice breakdowns on a
couple of players.

1909
01:57:29,300 --> 01:57:31,100
Yeah.
Some of their stuff wasn't

1910
01:57:31,100 --> 01:57:32,900
working, but they have some nice
shit.

1911
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:36,000
I'm gonna put that on Twitter
because I talked about it on the

1912
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,700
chat.
Because they were talking about.

1913
01:57:39,700 --> 01:57:42,200
It wasn't working but like
someone was like, oh yeah, it's

1914
01:57:42,200 --> 01:57:46,300
certain number of seconds of a
video shouldn't upload.

1915
01:57:46,300 --> 01:57:48,600
Probably, it's 22 minutes and 10
seconds.

1916
01:57:48,600 --> 01:57:51,200
Everything they had was under
two minutes, right?

1917
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,800
Twitter was fucking up.
Yeah, it was.

1918
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:57,200
So that was on Twitter, that
wasn't on what textile I was

1919
01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:59,600
trying to do.
So Props attack Sidelines for

1920
01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:02,000
what they were trying to do this
morning because that was going

1921
01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,700
to be really good with what
Chris Coleman was Brady's Ranch

1922
01:58:04,700 --> 01:58:06,700
berries player.
If they kind of went through,

1923
01:58:06,900 --> 01:58:08,800
that was going to be Yeah,
really good setup.

1924
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,800
I hope they seem to take
Sidelines for that.

1925
01:58:12,100 --> 01:58:14,300
The other thing was I love this
set of it.

1926
01:58:14,800 --> 01:58:19,000
If we've dealt in the past where
it felt like it was, you get

1927
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:21,800
like a handful at the beginning,
a bunch of the beginning, then

1928
01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:24,100
it'd be like hours and then you
get some more.

1929
01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:26,800
And then now it sounded like
what they did is they said

1930
01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:30,100
everybody send the nli and
here's how we're going to do it.

1931
01:58:30,300 --> 01:58:32,400
We're going to do everything,
like 15-20 minutes.

1932
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:35,300
It was like Teddy.
It was said, I had whatever it

1933
01:58:35,300 --> 01:58:37,500
was whatever was becoming hand
put out.

1934
01:58:37,700 --> 01:58:40,500
It's been every 10 minutes.
There's gotta be a becoming a

1935
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:41,700
shout out.
David.

1936
01:58:42,500 --> 01:58:45,500
Y'all, y'all think David would.
Come on here and get drunk with

1937
01:58:45,500 --> 01:58:47,900
us.
David would absolutely go in

1938
01:58:47,900 --> 01:58:50,200
here and get drunk with us.
Good, maybe it matters.

1939
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,400
You bring indecent.
It depends.

1940
01:58:52,400 --> 01:58:54,000
I see.
Let's bring in DC.

1941
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:54,900
I love me.
See.

1942
01:58:55,300 --> 01:58:58,800
All right, let's talk about it
this thing because we've got a

1943
01:58:58,808 --> 01:59:01,400
bunch of guys we can talk about,
but we're going to hit the guys

1944
01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:04,500
that we just got this week.
The first one and I tell you,

1945
01:59:04,500 --> 01:59:07,500
the second highest rated kid in
this class.

1946
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:12,200
Exchange Fitzgerald, six with
385 pound kid out of Nolensville

1947
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:15,500
Tennessee.
A 3-star high priest or

1948
01:59:15,500 --> 01:59:19,400
borderline for Oklahoma State
and Auburn bunch of teams,

1949
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:23,600
offered this kid got compared to
Gabriel Davis with the bills

1950
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,800
gave Davis was on my fantasy
team this year, and one of them

1951
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:28,100
he helped me out a lot.
Sorry.

1952
01:59:28,100 --> 01:59:31,800
Curtis Well, I mean not on that
League.

1953
01:59:31,800 --> 01:59:41,700
Another lynnie fantasy piece of
signing day.

1954
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:46,800
I mean, y'all got anything on
this kid from what y'all seen or

1955
01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:51,800
what y'all heard besides.
I like both of the you know

1956
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,100
we're going to talk about them
but I like both of the receivers

1957
01:59:54,100 --> 01:59:55,800
that we picked up at the end of
the cycle.

1958
01:59:56,300 --> 01:59:59,600
Yeah.
Yeah, 18 green and and him

1959
01:59:59,900 --> 02:00:03,600
pretty nice.
I think, from what I seen, I

1960
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:08,300
haven't watched a ton of him but
Fitzgerald seems to be more

1961
02:00:08,300 --> 02:00:11,100
College ready just because of
his body.

1962
02:00:13,000 --> 02:00:16,800
Green looks a little thin but
greens earlier rolling as well

1963
02:00:16,800 --> 02:00:21,700
so he may get a chance before
Fitzgerald but I like Fitzgerald

1964
02:00:21,700 --> 02:00:25,800
he that's a nice pickup,
definitely a nice pickup.

1965
02:00:25,900 --> 02:00:28,700
That's a that's a big.
Steel to Jeremy.

1966
02:00:28,700 --> 02:00:30,600
You probably saw it.
I know you follow close.

1967
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:34,300
I mean, they went to war with
some big boys to land chance.

1968
02:00:35,500 --> 02:00:37,600
Yes, they did.
That was actually my biggest

1969
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:41,800
point with chance is, if we can
win these recruiting Wars, that

1970
02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:47,900
is excellent.
I can't evaluate wide receivers,

1971
02:00:48,100 --> 02:00:51,700
I don't know how to do that.
Fair enough, he was really

1972
02:00:51,700 --> 02:00:54,900
getting this VM that I watched
that.

1973
02:00:54,900 --> 02:00:58,900
My entire thing is he looked
Exceptional in this film.

1974
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:03,200
And on top of that, there were a
lot of big boys out there trying

1975
02:01:03,200 --> 02:01:07,200
to get him and we got him so
good land.

1976
02:01:08,300 --> 02:01:12,200
Yeah, I mean Fitzgerald I feel
like is the most like if you had

1977
02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:16,600
to say a receiver that was going
to play today, Fitzgerald was

1978
02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:20,800
the guy.
To me that that that's my

1979
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:22,700
assessment of this class for
sure.

1980
02:01:22,700 --> 02:01:26,200
Good to say it was gonna start
right now.

1981
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:31,400
Today for this team going to
2023 Fitzgerald is that do

1982
02:01:31,900 --> 02:01:34,000
right?
Because that's why we're seeing

1983
02:01:34,000 --> 02:01:39,300
is we have you know that we have
on the on the team still are not

1984
02:01:39,300 --> 02:01:42,300
that far ahead of what he is
from what we see, physically

1985
02:01:42,300 --> 02:01:45,600
know, physically know the other
physically know, I thought the

1986
02:01:45,600 --> 02:01:48,800
same thing, you're not even, I
know we're going.

1987
02:01:49,200 --> 02:01:51,800
We got a couple other things to
talk about as far as recruiting

1988
02:01:51,800 --> 02:01:56,300
goes but even like y'all are
saying just watching.

1989
02:01:56,500 --> 02:02:00,700
Like we usually we'd have all of
our players before what fucking

1990
02:02:00,900 --> 02:02:03,900
August.
We have all of our players with

1991
02:02:03,900 --> 02:02:07,900
more this and then we're sitting
around waiting for signing day

1992
02:02:08,500 --> 02:02:11,200
to see if anybody's going to
take somebody from us.

1993
02:02:11,700 --> 02:02:15,400
So for us to go like hard that
last week and be like, okay,

1994
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:17,500
fuck it.
Let's now let's add some people

1995
02:02:17,500 --> 02:02:20,800
to the party.
And not not and it wasn't just

1996
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:24,500
people that was you know, going
to Grambling State now.

1997
02:02:24,500 --> 02:02:27,700
It was they had some big-time
offers we was okay to.

1998
02:02:28,100 --> 02:02:29,800
He was okay to fight with some
big boys.

1999
02:02:29,800 --> 02:02:32,400
I was happy about that and that
looks right.

2000
02:02:32,700 --> 02:02:35,000
I think that's the one thing
about this staff that we can say

2001
02:02:35,000 --> 02:02:38,900
is when it comes to going to war
with a big boy, they don't stop.

2002
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:41,900
They do not stop.
They keep their not intimidated,

2003
02:02:41,900 --> 02:02:44,700
they're not they just say, well
I think it's also because you

2004
02:02:44,700 --> 02:02:48,500
have a group go back, I had a
conversation with a guy at work

2005
02:02:48,500 --> 02:02:52,900
today Day Nebraska paint.
And y'all can say how to hell is

2006
02:02:52,900 --> 02:02:55,600
he's actually from the 75 who
came to Nebraska fan.

2007
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:59,200
Uncle played their love this guy
to death, always talk with him

2008
02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:03,400
about football at work, but he
talked about and it resonated

2009
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:06,200
with me talking about Texel
coaching staff about, he tried

2010
02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:10,900
to bring everybody with him.
When in reality you need to find

2011
02:03:11,100 --> 02:03:14,500
dogs guys that know this
profession guys that have been

2012
02:03:14,500 --> 02:03:19,200
at the P5 level that know how to
scrap fight get. 30.

2013
02:03:19,200 --> 02:03:23,000
If you need to know areas and
know how to attack and you will

2014
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:25,800
get your staff at a hole.
And I know we criticized you, we

2015
02:03:25,800 --> 02:03:28,100
know he wants to get better, we
feel student, get better because

2016
02:03:28,100 --> 02:03:30,700
he has had some excellent
special teams in the past.

2017
02:03:30,700 --> 02:03:33,100
We know Tyler bowling can do
better because the pedigree he's

2018
02:03:33,100 --> 02:03:35,900
come from.
They use offensive and put up

2019
02:03:35,900 --> 02:03:38,700
numbers.
But we sit here and it's like

2020
02:03:38,700 --> 02:03:40,100
this Dad.
I don't think quits.

2021
02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:43,200
I think they're still texting
and I think y'all talk about

2022
02:03:43,200 --> 02:03:47,400
fontelle minds earlier, I think
fontelle mines has been texting

2023
02:03:47,400 --> 02:03:52,100
Ali Jennings.
Ever since he left ever since

2024
02:03:52,100 --> 02:03:55,500
fontelle left OT, you probably
kept in touch with that kid.

2025
02:03:55,600 --> 02:03:57,500
That's why I'm saying wait until
year three.

2026
02:03:57,500 --> 02:04:00,300
Yep and you're firing me was
like listen three years for

2027
02:04:00,300 --> 02:04:04,100
everybody exactly.
Now let's go to this guy next

2028
02:04:04,100 --> 02:04:08,100
because the last time before
this week we saw this guy had

2029
02:04:08,100 --> 02:04:10,800
tally me and you got two hats.
He took our hats and kind of

2030
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:15,800
went through it to the side but
Antonio cotton, eyed him.

2031
02:04:15,900 --> 02:04:18,800
It was it was his nephew.
It was his nephew do.

2032
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:22,700
Nephew do that.
Don't know if you don't so

2033
02:04:22,700 --> 02:04:28,500
Antonio, Cotman decompress from
BC and then, and he just a few

2034
02:04:28,500 --> 02:04:33,100
days ago commits to Virginia,
Tech six-foot-two, 190 Life,

2035
02:04:33,100 --> 02:04:35,700
Christian Academy.
Brian.

2036
02:04:35,700 --> 02:04:39,000
What are you seeing from him on
the just the tape in general,

2037
02:04:39,300 --> 02:04:43,500
anybody sighs, right?
I think I like this guy's a box

2038
02:04:43,500 --> 02:04:47,200
safety or Sam linebacker.
I can really see him excelling

2039
02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:50,100
at that role.
I don't think he's going to be a

2040
02:04:50,100 --> 02:04:53,300
quarterback at the power 5
level, but I think the

2041
02:04:53,300 --> 02:04:58,600
athleticism he has, he can be a
Shamari Connor, tight safety or

2042
02:04:58,600 --> 02:05:01,900
fit in very very well at the Sam
linebacker position.

2043
02:05:01,900 --> 02:05:06,500
So I really like this pickup
long term in solidifying, those

2044
02:05:06,500 --> 02:05:10,200
two positions.
Yeah, probably what you got

2045
02:05:11,300 --> 02:05:14,800
grief.
I mean, I was on Cottman early

2046
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:18,300
just because its body size, you
know, came took some pictures.

2047
02:05:18,300 --> 02:05:19,500
I didn't really know much about
him.

2048
02:05:19,500 --> 02:05:22,600
I just think they bought brought
a big group.

2049
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:25,800
It was maybe I don't know. 2020
2021.

2050
02:05:26,100 --> 02:05:28,100
Yeah.
First time I seen him and I was

2051
02:05:28,100 --> 02:05:30,400
like damn it.
This nice-looking kid for him to

2052
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:34,600
be a sophomore, junior in high
school and was on him for a

2053
02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:38,000
while.
And I know he came and they roll

2054
02:05:38,000 --> 02:05:41,000
the red.
For my man, they had him talking

2055
02:05:41,600 --> 02:05:43,500
Edmunds Brothers.
I think he was talking to the

2056
02:05:43,500 --> 02:05:45,800
full of Brothers, the early this
year.

2057
02:05:45,900 --> 02:05:47,500
Both.
Oh yeah.

2058
02:05:47,500 --> 02:05:52,000
So it was like okay this is what
the staff is trying to do that.

2059
02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:55,500
Trying to get the roots back in
the Virginia is a Virginia kid.

2060
02:05:55,500 --> 02:06:01,400
Who's ranked higher they had
that they did everything right.

2061
02:06:01,700 --> 02:06:05,800
And then for whatever reason he
goes and commits to Boston

2062
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:08,600
College old staff, what would
happen is over.

2063
02:06:08,700 --> 02:06:12,200
Or with somebody through the Hat
down, we're done.

2064
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,000
You hurt our feelings.
You went to the dance with

2065
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:16,200
somebody else.
Fuck you.

2066
02:06:16,200 --> 02:06:18,500
That's what it would have be IT
staff.

2067
02:06:18,500 --> 02:06:21,600
Now I'm no inside of, but, you
know, when you you around

2068
02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:26,100
enough, you hear stuff, you
heard people talking about even

2069
02:06:26,100 --> 02:06:28,900
when we played Boston College
caught me and came to the game.

2070
02:06:29,100 --> 02:06:30,900
Had him to the game.
Yeah.

2071
02:06:44,700 --> 02:06:48,800
because stuff like that, no
matter how much dividends and

2072
02:06:48,800 --> 02:06:53,900
pays on the field, me and
relentless on the recruiting

2073
02:06:53,900 --> 02:06:59,700
Trail, like they did on that
recruit is going to it's going

2074
02:06:59,708 --> 02:07:02,200
to win you some games, it's
going to win you some schools

2075
02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:05,500
because people was watching that
no matter how we feel about

2076
02:07:05,500 --> 02:07:09,100
certain players, People in those
areas, pay attention to those

2077
02:07:09,100 --> 02:07:12,800
kids, man.
So I think that I think that

2078
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:16,900
just that recruitment was
probably like the one that I

2079
02:07:16,900 --> 02:07:19,000
watched the closest and was
like, okay damn.

2080
02:07:19,500 --> 02:07:23,200
Like we, we really trying to do
something so that was awesome.

2081
02:07:23,500 --> 02:07:27,200
I feel good about that Jeremy.
What you got?

2082
02:07:29,700 --> 02:07:34,100
No, he's right.
I did not like the Hat throat.

2083
02:07:34,400 --> 02:07:36,900
None of us did.
Well, looks good.

2084
02:07:41,400 --> 02:07:46,000
One of my favorite things ever
is the reverse half through that

2085
02:07:46,000 --> 02:07:56,000
one of our people did.
Yeah, where Yeah.

2086
02:07:56,000 --> 02:08:00,200
It's one of those things where
it was going off, doing whatever

2087
02:08:00,200 --> 02:08:05,500
and we showed him exactly the
support and the infrastructure

2088
02:08:05,500 --> 02:08:10,200
and everything we could do for
him and it ended up going.

2089
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:14,100
All right it did that sound good
I'm happy with him.

2090
02:08:14,100 --> 02:08:18,300
I think he's a great talent and
I'm glad to have him but I will

2091
02:08:18,300 --> 02:08:20,900
always remember that Heather
everybody.

2092
02:08:25,200 --> 02:08:26,700
There we go.
There we go.

2093
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:29,100
By the way.
Matt Neal says we're glad.

2094
02:08:29,100 --> 02:08:31,500
You're going straight mason jar
for the second half hour here.

2095
02:08:31,700 --> 02:08:35,600
And what are you doing?
Our second hour and a half?

2096
02:08:40,100 --> 02:08:42,800
Straight to the bottle, baby.
I hit water and an hour and a

2097
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:44,400
half.
Man, you better go.

2098
02:08:47,900 --> 02:08:51,000
Let's talk Curtis, you know, how
I can handle my liquor, man.

2099
02:08:51,000 --> 02:09:04,500
I know you can't hide.
Jameson time, man.

2100
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:08,300
Go ahead and dive in Jeremy.
Not yet.

2101
02:09:08,300 --> 02:09:19,200
Jesus Christ, man, your fingers.
Do it most most look at, Ellen

2102
02:09:19,200 --> 02:09:24,700
doesn't know most fellows.
They have that Moonshine

2103
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:31,100
moonshine, we put it up again.
Why not?

2104
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:41,900
Why not - not moonshine.
Most Philip Cane Ridge.

2105
02:09:41,900 --> 02:09:43,000
High School.
Antioch.

2106
02:09:43,000 --> 02:09:47,100
Tennessee 63. 190 listed as a
safety.

2107
02:09:47,700 --> 02:09:52,900
Not a big list.
Just techno Georgia, Tech Toledo

2108
02:09:52,900 --> 02:09:55,300
and Tulane.
I like the last two offers

2109
02:09:55,300 --> 02:09:57,100
though Toledo.
One the Mac.

2110
02:09:57,100 --> 02:09:59,400
Yes.
Year to Lane one, the AAC this

2111
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:04,400
year, that is to upper level G,
five schools that like they're

2112
02:10:04,400 --> 02:10:06,300
looking for guys that they can
develop.

2113
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:09,700
I'm always start with seagull,
ksiegel always looks at

2114
02:10:09,700 --> 02:10:12,700
highlights and he played
football and he coached football

2115
02:10:13,400 --> 02:10:16,300
and a Collegiate level.
So what are you seeing from?

2116
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:20,300
Mr. Phillips, I see a
motherfucker to likes to hit and

2117
02:10:20,300 --> 02:10:23,600
I think he's going to be a big
asset on special teams out

2118
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:26,500
there.
Whether he develops into a

2119
02:10:26,500 --> 02:10:30,200
player that we can see in the to
beat of that defense is going to

2120
02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:33,300
be the question mark.
But this is a guy that can

2121
02:10:33,300 --> 02:10:38,500
contribute potentially day one
but at least by year two on

2122
02:10:38,500 --> 02:10:41,200
special teams for us.
So we'll see if he ends up.

2123
02:10:41,600 --> 02:10:44,300
You know taking one of those
those travel Squad spots.

2124
02:10:44,900 --> 02:10:49,600
A a tally.
How close is Antioch to Bama

2125
02:10:51,200 --> 02:10:53,600
main railroad?
I don't know, maybe about three

2126
02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:54,800
hours.
It's okay.

2127
02:10:55,000 --> 02:10:58,000
All right, so it's I'm just
trying to get the location.

2128
02:10:58,000 --> 02:11:01,400
It's in the ballpark then.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

2129
02:11:01,700 --> 02:11:04,800
So I mean, any feels on this
Edition is one of those.

2130
02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:09,800
It was late because when you see
a guy like this, y'all is it?

2131
02:11:09,800 --> 02:11:14,200
The first thing you think about
is, was this guy like 5 foot 11,

2132
02:11:14,200 --> 02:11:18,100
18 months ago and then all of a
sudden his junior year.

2133
02:11:18,100 --> 02:11:21,900
He had a growth spurt and went
like, oh, he's 63 190 pounds.

2134
02:11:21,900 --> 02:11:24,900
Now, let's see.
This kid.

2135
02:11:27,400 --> 02:11:29,200
Yes, I don't know, man.
It was it.

2136
02:11:29,200 --> 02:11:33,300
That was a little I don't know,
kind of threw me for a loop.

2137
02:11:33,300 --> 02:11:36,500
I guess the offer and everything
but scared of commitment.

2138
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:38,900
But I mean, I guess the good
thing about integrating online.

2139
02:11:38,900 --> 02:11:41,600
Watch the tunnel film.
I did see kid does, like the

2140
02:11:41,608 --> 02:11:43,300
hit.
I mean, he's a coach's son.

2141
02:11:43,400 --> 02:11:47,300
That's always pretty good.
Yeah, I do like that part of it,

2142
02:11:47,300 --> 02:11:50,400
but I don't know much about him.
Like you said, I think he may be

2143
02:11:50,400 --> 02:11:53,300
a special teams player but
sometimes you got to take a

2144
02:11:53,300 --> 02:11:55,900
chance on people man you know
fuck it.

2145
02:11:56,500 --> 02:12:03,800
But when you got Robbie hola I
say,

2146
02:12:47,200 --> 02:12:48,400
I'm mr.
Phillips.

2147
02:12:50,200 --> 02:12:52,900
Moo's Phillips.
Most most Phillips you gathered.

2148
02:12:53,400 --> 02:12:58,000
Yes.
I know I Tell me what honestly

2149
02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:03,100
did not know him until earlier
today, until he did this.

2150
02:13:03,700 --> 02:13:06,600
And I'm glad we got him.
And I believe in our people,

2151
02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:09,600
that's all I can say.
First of all, also store to come

2152
02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:13,100
later on that and then Alyssa
Aisha out here.

2153
02:13:13,300 --> 02:13:19,500
We both at the same time, run,
that's a fair question.

2154
02:13:19,500 --> 02:13:59,900
That's a fair question.
Not everyone, turned it over

2155
02:13:59,900 --> 02:14:03,700
with money, Waffle House.
Like, during the day, like this

2156
02:14:03,700 --> 02:14:08,100
are never, if it's before 11
p.m., I don't eat at Waffle

2157
02:14:08,100 --> 02:14:10,500
House.
I don't think I fucking never a

2158
02:14:10,500 --> 02:14:14,900
to Waffle House like during the
day like the crazy 7:00 and

2159
02:14:14,900 --> 02:14:19,800
10:00 in the morning.
Yeah, I mean, I think I've been

2160
02:14:19,800 --> 02:14:26,800
that one in 1980 after drinks,
all kind of video.

2161
02:14:27,100 --> 02:14:35,600
Yeah, for sure and Joe's Diner.
Joe, let me throw it back and

2162
02:14:35,600 --> 02:14:40,000
also early morning, if you want
a quick delivery like in your in

2163
02:14:40,000 --> 02:14:42,600
Blacksburg just order from
Jim's.

2164
02:14:42,800 --> 02:14:45,100
All right, just get it.
It's also throw one back on

2165
02:14:45,100 --> 02:14:46,800
here.
Chris Morena, I won't throw one

2166
02:14:46,800 --> 02:14:47,700
back on.
I'm sorry.

2167
02:14:47,700 --> 02:14:49,200
Curtis, I can't, I can't hear
you.

2168
02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:52,500
Can you hear me a bitch?
Call the fuck.

2169
02:14:52,500 --> 02:14:54,500
You're so low compared to
everyone else.

2170
02:14:54,500 --> 02:14:56,700
How about now?
It doesn't interrupt me when I'm

2171
02:14:56,700 --> 02:14:58,900
mid or hear me.
Can you hear me now?

2172
02:14:59,800 --> 02:15:02,900
Yes, that's where we go.
Gummy's at 380.

2173
02:15:02,900 --> 02:15:07,500
Mm, don't be bringing him
Gumby's at 3.

2174
02:15:07,500 --> 02:15:10,000
A.m.
Jeremy Gumby.

2175
02:15:11,000 --> 02:16:01,400
Is what is Gummies at 3 a.m.
Wait, so here we go.

2176
02:16:01,700 --> 02:16:05,000
Just overall feels on 2023.
We're going to probably end up

2177
02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:09,000
somewhere between 3035.
How y'all feeling in general

2178
02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:11,400
about this class actually have
to have a three in each season

2179
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:15,600
from the pretty good.
I'm feeling pretty good about

2180
02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:17,800
it.
I mean I ain't gonna you know,

2181
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:22,000
say man is greatest thing ever.
You know, I feel like I really

2182
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:23,400
want it.
I don't know.

2183
02:16:23,400 --> 02:16:26,600
One of the top kids out of
Virginia.

2184
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:30,300
Maybe maybe flip somebody.
You know, from Virginia like

2185
02:16:30,300 --> 02:16:35,900
that but I mean, for the season
we had, I'm good, I think I'm

2186
02:16:35,900 --> 02:16:44,100
okay with it, earns more, I'm
happy we have a while ago.

2187
02:16:46,700 --> 02:16:50,100
We are a long way from Thomas
Jones.

2188
02:16:52,400 --> 02:16:58,299
You Kevin Jones coming up Thomas
Jones, he played for UVA living,

2189
02:16:58,299 --> 02:17:03,500
ya know it.
Kevin Jones came up out of

2190
02:17:03,500 --> 02:17:05,799
nowhere and was just like, I
want to play for you.

2191
02:17:05,799 --> 02:17:07,400
We weren't even fucking
recruiting him.

2192
02:17:07,700 --> 02:17:11,700
One of the fucking recruits ever
came out of nowhere.

2193
02:17:11,900 --> 02:17:16,900
We're a long way away from that,
but we are making Right.

2194
02:17:17,500 --> 02:17:18,700
Yep.
Yep.

2195
02:17:18,900 --> 02:17:20,299
That's the way I feel about it
too.

2196
02:17:20,299 --> 02:17:23,000
And I think a lot of the stuff
that goes on with this class and

2197
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:24,799
a couple things were going here
in a second.

2198
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:31,299
I'm is big but I think Brian.
I mean Braun said it roughly

2199
02:17:31,400 --> 02:17:35,299
fifty forty eight weeks ago if
we're between 35 and 30, I'm

2200
02:17:35,299 --> 02:17:37,000
happy.
I think we're 30.

2201
02:17:37,100 --> 02:17:39,500
Let me get it up here.
Hold on 34.

2202
02:17:39,500 --> 02:17:44,200
As of end of today, if I recall
correctly, 34, correct, 34.

2203
02:17:44,299 --> 02:17:48,700
As of end of today, And it's
probably not going to be

2204
02:17:48,708 --> 02:17:51,700
changing too too much.
It's going to change amongst the

2205
02:17:51,700 --> 02:17:54,000
top, boys, a little bit but
that's probably where we're

2206
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:59,299
saying I'm 37 now but composite
35.

2207
02:17:59,299 --> 02:18:04,600
So cam Cobb there's can we shut
off cam cam?

2208
02:18:04,700 --> 02:18:09,900
Cam Cobb, he likes to be dated
when he wants to be, but he has

2209
02:18:09,900 --> 02:18:14,700
been on the quantum Felton train
and he has shown love to the

2210
02:18:14,700 --> 02:18:18,000
staff for real.
I'm right there with him to be

2211
02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:21,799
honest.
Anyway, the video the really did

2212
02:18:21,799 --> 02:18:23,900
the video.
I think the way we wrap this

2213
02:18:23,900 --> 02:18:26,299
thing up as been pretty fucking
solid.

2214
02:18:27,100 --> 02:18:30,100
Yeah.
We're at the the way we closed

2215
02:18:30,100 --> 02:18:33,200
on to good wide receiver
prospects for this class.

2216
02:18:34,299 --> 02:18:39,100
We had a good fucking transfer
in the skill positions that we

2217
02:18:39,100 --> 02:18:42,299
need to address, hold it around
to address.

2218
02:18:42,500 --> 02:18:44,700
We still going to address some
d-line, we stake out a dress

2219
02:18:44,700 --> 02:18:48,600
them o line but but the way we
address, the skill positions, in

2220
02:18:48,600 --> 02:18:52,500
the transfer port on the way we
closed out the 2023 class, I

2221
02:18:52,500 --> 02:18:54,900
like where we're heading.
Can I say one thing?

2222
02:18:55,299 --> 02:18:59,000
Can we get 20 Ezekiel 1 bushes
to walk on every year?

2223
02:19:00,299 --> 02:19:01,799
No, seriously, really?
Seriously?

2224
02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:04,299
Yeah, motherfucker.
Right.

2225
02:19:06,299 --> 02:19:09,600
Amount of kids to walk on every
freaking year, I mean that kids

2226
02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:12,600
got offers all over to the G5
and he's gonna walk on here is a

2227
02:19:12,608 --> 02:19:16,200
six foot three, half back up out
of stone bridge.

2228
02:19:16,500 --> 02:19:18,200
He's a damn good football
program.

2229
02:19:18,700 --> 02:19:21,200
That says a lot of should have
had a recruiting Because

2230
02:19:21,200 --> 02:19:23,799
Stonebridge up.
There we go.

2231
02:19:23,900 --> 02:19:25,600
I was one of their big song got
came from.

2232
02:19:26,200 --> 02:19:29,799
That's the own gang sound.
Yeah, that's why I said, tell

2233
02:19:29,799 --> 02:19:32,700
Miss Jones because it's a whole
thing with yeah, where I do.

2234
02:19:32,700 --> 02:19:33,799
What you're saying?
Hey

2235
02:19:45,299 --> 02:19:47,600
I know but I mean Talked about
this before.

2236
02:19:48,000 --> 02:19:50,500
My high school coach is a big
fucking EV a guy.

2237
02:19:51,300 --> 02:19:55,300
So we were at the fucking like,
postseason celebrating the

2238
02:19:55,300 --> 02:19:59,300
season shit at UVA and I'm like,
the only Tech Guy.

2239
02:19:59,300 --> 02:20:02,700
They're one of the few Tech guys
are with brown Wilkerson, and we

2240
02:20:02,700 --> 02:20:06,200
were like talking mad shit and
everybody was shitting on

2241
02:20:06,200 --> 02:20:10,400
Michael Vick, but on the fucking
Jumbotron at UVA is the fucking

2242
02:20:10,600 --> 02:20:15,100
miracle at Morgantown in fucking
Charlottesville, and I'm talking

2243
02:20:15,100 --> 02:20:19,100
my shit and Ow, Wilkerson is
talking to his shit and like, it

2244
02:20:19,100 --> 02:20:22,900
was, it was fucking great.
That's that's one of the best

2245
02:20:22,900 --> 02:20:24,600
fucking stories y'all ever got,
dude.

2246
02:20:24,700 --> 02:20:29,100
Seriously, when that happened
that day in 1999.

2247
02:20:29,100 --> 02:20:31,600
All right.
So, Georgia Tech at UVA.

2248
02:20:31,600 --> 02:20:35,300
All right, Interruption
Interruption, what NFL athlete?

2249
02:20:35,300 --> 02:20:38,900
Did you all ever play against
nobody in high school?

2250
02:20:39,000 --> 02:20:40,300
Oh god.
Oh, hang on.

2251
02:20:44,200 --> 02:20:48,400
Fucking right.
God damn, what's his name?

2252
02:20:49,300 --> 02:20:51,900
The damn detailer.
When you asked me earlier the

2253
02:20:51,900 --> 02:20:56,100
fucking night out, I had some
shit for you UVA.

2254
02:20:56,100 --> 02:21:02,200
Tackle that played at from 0 3,
2005 and UVA.

2255
02:21:04,400 --> 02:21:09,400
Then the British all know the
father, fucking white kid from

2256
02:21:09,400 --> 02:21:12,200
Lynchburg from EC glass of the
glass kit.

2257
02:21:12,300 --> 02:21:13,700
Oh no, you didn't play again
ink.

2258
02:21:15,400 --> 02:21:18,200
I played against King, man.
Yeah, I played against King but

2259
02:21:18,200 --> 02:21:22,900
only one year.
King King was a fucking dominant

2260
02:21:22,900 --> 02:21:26,500
defensive end dominant tight
end.

2261
02:21:26,500 --> 02:21:30,500
And then he was a fucking like
next-level punter that year for

2262
02:21:30,500 --> 02:21:35,000
prefer Pulaski.
That's awesome.

2263
02:21:35,300 --> 02:21:39,200
All right, but let's talk about
some other shit about the

2264
02:21:39,200 --> 02:21:44,800
company as we have the Clemson.
Oh yeah.

2265
02:22:03,700 --> 02:22:08,300
You know what against Justin
Hamilton and put Miller meet Ali

2266
02:22:08,300 --> 02:22:11,000
over here, like the dads.
We are listen, y'all to put

2267
02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:13,600
fucking screaming at each other.
Goddamn it, okay.

2268
02:22:14,000 --> 02:22:18,400
Are you telling me that?
He's gone crazy kids.

2269
02:22:18,700 --> 02:22:20,400
All right, listen.
Pull it back.

2270
02:22:20,700 --> 02:22:24,000
We are going.
We got 25 commit sin in today.

2271
02:22:24,700 --> 02:22:28,800
11 of them are enrolling.
Early. 11, a massive fucking

2272
02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:30,800
number all God.
He's still drinking the bourbon.

2273
02:22:30,800 --> 02:22:33,500
Your drink.
No more that you didn't get it.

2274
02:22:33,600 --> 02:22:38,400
Time telling me how to edit this
shit

2275
02:22:56,100 --> 02:23:03,500
is coming in early, the kid from
Thomas Williams Baylor.

2276
02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:07,300
The local kid and the kid that
just kinda days all coming in.

2277
02:23:07,300 --> 02:23:10,800
Yes, I played against Lee Suggs.
Yep.

2278
02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:13,300
Lisa 11.
Here.

2279
02:23:13,300 --> 02:23:17,100
You turn this 11 of the 25.
Guys are coming in early that

2280
02:23:17,100 --> 02:23:21,400
signed today, 11 or more.
That is really good.

2281
02:23:23,100 --> 02:23:27,100
We need them, we do, we do need
them and especially a guy like

2282
02:23:27,100 --> 02:23:30,600
Lance Williams.
And you think about green coming

2283
02:23:30,600 --> 02:23:35,300
in and chance coming in because
we do need even with getting the

2284
02:23:35,300 --> 02:23:40,400
guys are going to talk about in
the portal, you know?

2285
02:23:40,600 --> 02:23:42,400
We still need wide receiver
help.

2286
02:23:42,500 --> 02:23:45,000
And I think those two young guys
coming in, who already are

2287
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:47,900
showing a ton of flash who had a
lot of potential who have

2288
02:23:47,900 --> 02:23:51,900
already getting big offers, I
mean, that's huge.

2289
02:23:52,200 --> 02:23:55,100
Can I take over real quick?
Can I think of a real?

2290
02:23:55,100 --> 02:24:00,800
Can you calm the fuck down?
I'm good, man, I'm great.

2291
02:24:22,200 --> 02:24:25,400
You know this, let's talk about
this though.

2292
02:24:25,600 --> 02:24:29,600
So when we talk about this,
we're talking about the line

2293
02:24:29,700 --> 02:24:33,300
both on the defensive line and
the offensive line, there's

2294
02:24:33,300 --> 02:24:34,700
still some question marks,
right.

2295
02:24:34,900 --> 02:24:38,600
Do you think that's my biggest
concern rolling into 2023?

2296
02:24:38,900 --> 02:24:42,900
And that's something that we
have addressed from a young guy

2297
02:24:42,900 --> 02:24:44,600
perspective.
But I don't know if we've

2298
02:24:44,600 --> 02:24:48,000
addressed from a transfer portal
perspective at this point yet

2299
02:24:48,000 --> 02:24:49,800
and we're going to hit that in
just a few minutes.

2300
02:24:50,200 --> 02:24:52,000
So a lot of young guys coming
in.

2301
02:24:52,100 --> 02:24:55,200
In and let's hit this next with
just the recruiting class of

2302
02:24:55,200 --> 02:25:03,300
2023 from the high school level.
The amount of Virginia kids, the

2303
02:25:03,300 --> 02:25:06,600
Mountain Virginia kids.
Oh y'all can start on me all

2304
02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:07,400
night.
Y'all don't know me.

2305
02:25:07,400 --> 02:25:09,400
My whole life y'all fucking me
all day long.

2306
02:25:10,900 --> 02:25:13,700
Jimmy kids in general Curtis
Curtis wait.

2307
02:25:13,700 --> 02:25:17,300
Before we go into that,
shouldn't we like everyone has

2308
02:25:17,300 --> 02:25:21,500
so many responses over here of
all the NFL players they play

2309
02:25:21,500 --> 02:25:57,000
together.
Ron Wallace goes up for kids

2310
02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:59,300
because we play both something
the ball because guess what?

2311
02:25:59,300 --> 02:26:01,900
We were small fucking school and
24/7.

2312
02:26:02,200 --> 02:26:06,300
He goes up her catch, he's never
hit him so hard, he cracked his

2313
02:26:06,300 --> 02:26:13,000
rib pass.
That was that level of

2314
02:26:13,000 --> 02:26:16,600
Excellence.
A ton of folks here, play with a

2315
02:26:16,608 --> 02:26:19,000
ton of guys.
By the way, the league suck

2316
02:26:19,000 --> 02:26:23,200
Story one of our buddies.
Robbie played against Lee.

2317
02:26:23,200 --> 02:26:24,400
One of our buddies in high
school.

2318
02:26:24,400 --> 02:26:28,500
His name's Jesse Rogers.
He was a sinner undersized

2319
02:26:28,500 --> 02:26:31,100
Center.
But plays knows very undersized

2320
02:26:31,100 --> 02:26:33,900
Center and I'm talking about
undersized like 200 pounds.

2321
02:26:33,900 --> 02:26:38,700
Center 200-pound knows Lisa has
literally stepped on his face.

2322
02:26:42,400 --> 02:26:44,400
Coolest story ever.
Like, you know, that guy scored

2323
02:26:44,700 --> 02:26:47,200
touchdowns a techie literally
crushed my face and it was cool

2324
02:26:47,200 --> 02:26:53,500
though.
Did you are brother?

2325
02:26:53,600 --> 02:26:55,000
That's a good.
You worthwhile, you played in

2326
02:26:55,000 --> 02:26:57,100
college, man.
That's why you played in fucking

2327
02:26:57,100 --> 02:26:59,400
College.
Hold a hallway.

2328
02:26:59,400 --> 02:27:04,600
Say this is our buddy in sending
the fucking link, bring Robbie

2329
02:27:04,600 --> 02:27:06,300
in here, and I fuck the
bullshit, man.

2330
02:27:06,900 --> 02:27:11,800
Robbie Cornell G not bring in
rubbing from here.

2331
02:27:11,800 --> 02:27:17,000
Um, Robbie coach Cornell, pal
and Kentavious Street went to

2332
02:27:17,000 --> 02:27:19,200
State one.
Went to Clemson both in the NFL

2333
02:27:19,200 --> 02:27:22,400
right now.
We've y'all watch So y'all know

2334
02:27:22,400 --> 02:27:24,100
y'all bring them on.
Tally, you been quiet for the

2335
02:27:24,100 --> 02:27:26,600
last few minutes, you just
watching this cut up over here.

2336
02:27:26,800 --> 02:27:29,400
So let me ask him, get drunk.
I'm trying to make my eyes stop

2337
02:27:30,800 --> 02:27:33,600
Crossing apple.
Pie moonshine is a bitch.

2338
02:27:51,900 --> 02:27:59,700
It's all right where you're just
trying to feel your ass if you

2339
02:27:59,700 --> 02:28:06,900
don't shut up from down, in
Alabama, when you saw as many

2340
02:28:07,400 --> 02:28:11,500
kids as we got this year, what
does that tell you about where

2341
02:28:11,500 --> 02:28:13,700
we're going Direction?
Recruiting wise, Curtis porn

2342
02:28:13,700 --> 02:28:16,500
scotch on the side like he
fucking ate even looking in the

2343
02:28:16,500 --> 02:28:20,400
fucking microphone while he's
talking right hurts the boss.

2344
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:25,400
But to your point, Point.
I mean, You for what Virginia

2345
02:28:25,400 --> 02:28:28,600
Tech is, and what they, what
we're trying to get back to.

2346
02:28:29,200 --> 02:28:33,600
I mean, it makes you go back to
prior to being hired and them

2347
02:28:33,600 --> 02:28:36,700
saying, this is how we need to
win.

2348
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:41,200
I've seen this done before and
this is what we have to do.

2349
02:28:41,700 --> 02:28:46,200
And he fucking emphasized that
he, he put a plan out and he

2350
02:28:46,200 --> 02:28:50,300
stuck to it, you know, for you
know, people like myself dance.

2351
02:28:51,800 --> 02:28:55,000
Are people that is in my area
that may not pay attention to

2352
02:28:55,000 --> 02:28:57,300
recruiting.
They may not know like, a lot of

2353
02:28:57,308 --> 02:29:00,000
the kids that we got and stuff
like that or you maybe just

2354
02:29:00,000 --> 02:29:03,200
looking at the top five and say,
okay, well, that's what we need

2355
02:29:03,200 --> 02:29:05,700
to go after sure, we'll get
those kids.

2356
02:29:06,100 --> 02:29:09,400
But as of now, I mean, if you're
going to take a flyer on the

2357
02:29:09,408 --> 02:29:11,600
kids, you might as well take a
flyer on the kid from the house.

2358
02:29:11,600 --> 02:29:16,500
So I think they did a good job
with that and it again it just

2359
02:29:16,500 --> 02:29:19,300
goes back to him being like
genuine, what he says.

2360
02:29:19,300 --> 02:29:23,000
He said we're going to recruit
Blueprint, that's what he

2361
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:25,900
fucking did.
Like he went after that, not

2362
02:29:25,900 --> 02:29:29,900
only did he go after that.
I mean, I don't know how

2363
02:29:30,000 --> 02:29:36,600
Virginia does their their
ranking there, some of the kids,

2364
02:29:36,600 --> 02:29:40,400
you know, they're there.
That I don't want to say that

2365
02:29:40,400 --> 02:29:44,400
better than the rankings are but
it's like you got a lot of state

2366
02:29:44,400 --> 02:29:49,300
championships and in this
recruiting class tally talking

2367
02:29:49,300 --> 02:29:52,400
to right now.
Yes, sir, even some of the kids

2368
02:29:52,400 --> 02:29:55,000
like I know we're going to get
into like personal favorites and

2369
02:29:55,000 --> 02:29:58,500
stuff but some of these kids are
much better than the ranking is

2370
02:29:58,500 --> 02:30:01,000
and I know you might think.
Oh everybody says that.

2371
02:30:01,000 --> 02:30:04,300
But now if you if you pay
attention to any recruiting or

2372
02:30:04,300 --> 02:30:07,200
any college football, high
school football, some of these

2373
02:30:07,200 --> 02:30:10,100
kids that are being recruited
Routed over that we recruited a

2374
02:30:10,108 --> 02:30:11,800
much better than what the
ranking is.

2375
02:30:11,800 --> 02:30:15,400
So I think they did a good job
of finding finding those guys,

2376
02:30:15,400 --> 02:30:20,900
and finding those Virginia kids.
So, I'm pretty stoked about that

2377
02:30:21,900 --> 02:30:24,200
James.
You got, it played in the state

2378
02:30:24,200 --> 02:30:27,100
of Virginia, that has met a lot
of these kids from Center

2379
02:30:27,100 --> 02:30:30,600
Virginia, how in the southwest,
and in the southwest and you got

2380
02:30:30,600 --> 02:30:32,900
more sale Baylor coming in?
He's coming in early.

2381
02:30:33,800 --> 02:30:35,400
A stud that you're making in
Road.

2382
02:30:35,900 --> 02:30:37,600
There you go, we're making
inroads.

2383
02:30:38,100 --> 02:30:42,700
We're We're getting a lot of
like top, you know, 10 to 20

2384
02:30:42,700 --> 02:30:48,500
Talent, we have to have more top
10 talent in Virginia right now.

2385
02:30:48,500 --> 02:30:52,900
It is pretty much just repairing
bridges that have been burnt to

2386
02:30:52,908 --> 02:30:57,700
the ground and Shadow pond.
That's what we're doing right

2387
02:30:57,700 --> 02:31:00,400
now.
Yep, Seagull.

2388
02:31:00,400 --> 02:31:06,300
You've said it time and time and
time again about about Virginia

2389
02:31:06,300 --> 02:31:12,600
about you know in general is you
go in and you find the dogs and

2390
02:31:12,600 --> 02:31:15,000
eventually after you find the
dog you going to find a big

2391
02:31:15,000 --> 02:31:18,300
pedigree, right?
Well you find the dogs but you

2392
02:31:18,300 --> 02:31:20,600
got to find the dogs in the
areas that matter.

2393
02:31:20,600 --> 02:31:23,800
And I think one of the things
that we're doing well, is we're

2394
02:31:23,800 --> 02:31:27,100
getting back in the programs
that fucking matter in the

2395
02:31:27,100 --> 02:31:31,000
state.
And I think that is the thing

2396
02:31:31,000 --> 02:31:34,100
that has me pumped going
forward.

2397
02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:39,300
We're back in Highland Springs.
We got some little little bit of

2398
02:31:39,800 --> 02:31:43,200
little bit of momentum in
Veronica.

2399
02:31:43,400 --> 02:31:49,500
We got some buzz in Mari.
We got some buzz in Phoebus.

2400
02:31:50,100 --> 02:31:56,100
Yeah, there's some things to
talk about going forward with

2401
02:31:56,100 --> 02:32:02,600
Virginia Tech and High School
league Athletics, you have been

2402
02:32:02,600 --> 02:32:07,700
picking up and going off.
What Brian is saying as well, it

2403
02:32:07,700 --> 02:32:12,400
shows you how much like
relationships matter because I

2404
02:32:12,408 --> 02:32:15,600
can sit, we get back in the, we
getting back in the Highland

2405
02:32:15,600 --> 02:32:19,700
Springs, you know.
Ali Jennings was a Holly Springs

2406
02:32:19,700 --> 02:32:21,400
kid.
He wanted it wanted to come to

2407
02:32:21,400 --> 02:32:24,300
Tech.
And we didn't recruit him and he

2408
02:32:24,300 --> 02:32:28,900
goes to West, Virginia to any
transfers do BU, but now pride

2409
02:32:28,900 --> 02:32:31,800
comes in fun, tell them that
Highland Springs.

2410
02:32:31,800 --> 02:32:34,800
We got four kids coming from
Highland Springs.

2411
02:32:34,800 --> 02:32:38,800
We got Lauren Johnson who's been
saying, you know I'm sure he

2412
02:32:38,800 --> 02:32:40,900
wasn't talking bad about the
program said, the problem just

2413
02:32:40,900 --> 02:32:42,300
didn't come see us.
Yep.

2414
02:32:42,500 --> 02:32:47,000
Well now that that's it.
That is it right there tally.

2415
02:32:47,000 --> 02:32:49,700
Well, they're back there.
Now they're talking with those

2416
02:32:49,700 --> 02:32:54,500
guys and then Ali Jennings, who
is One of the top transfer.

2417
02:32:54,500 --> 02:32:58,000
Andrade was he?
He comes, he comes to Tech you

2418
02:32:58,000 --> 02:32:59,900
damn right.
Russian ships matter, man.

2419
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:02,900
You don't limit judgmental
running to so much.

2420
02:33:02,900 --> 02:33:04,800
Think about how this should
happen last year.

2421
02:33:04,800 --> 02:33:10,000
Go back in your memory banks,
what did I man?

2422
02:33:10,000 --> 02:33:13,700
We got we had fucking former
players on staff.

2423
02:33:13,700 --> 02:33:17,300
And Holland Springs was just
another program to us and now

2424
02:33:17,300 --> 02:33:20,400
they're five state titles deep
but then let's let me.

2425
02:33:20,400 --> 02:33:24,400
But let's take a step back down.
Who's the fucking problem and

2426
02:33:24,400 --> 02:33:28,500
was a huge problem.
We had former players on staff

2427
02:33:28,600 --> 02:33:32,500
at Highland Springs and they
were just another fucking

2428
02:33:32,500 --> 02:33:35,600
program though.
The issue is, it's not unless

2429
02:33:35,600 --> 02:33:41,000
you talk about Oscar Smith, what
you mean, fucking the 757 most

2430
02:33:41,000 --> 02:33:46,900
every year and Maury, winning
the 757, most every fucking year

2431
02:33:47,100 --> 02:33:50,700
and we're an afterthought.
We'll go to Highland Springs.

2432
02:33:50,700 --> 02:33:54,700
VA shit matters guys.
More Johnson was one of those

2433
02:33:54,700 --> 02:33:58,300
founders of fucking DBU.
He was a goddamn safety on those

2434
02:33:58,300 --> 02:34:00,300
early.
Those 90s teams, go ahead,

2435
02:34:00,300 --> 02:34:04,100
germs.
I'm not saying anything.

2436
02:34:05,400 --> 02:34:15,600
You know, I'm gonna say Samhain
on a few things, tell me what

2437
02:34:15,600 --> 02:34:23,800
you got.
If those staff was here, Brendan

2438
02:34:23,800 --> 02:34:25,600
Johnson wasn't coming to
Virginia Tech.

2439
02:34:25,700 --> 02:34:28,800
Nope.
Yeah, I mean real talk, he's

2440
02:34:28,800 --> 02:34:29,900
good.
Why you South Carolina?

2441
02:34:29,900 --> 02:34:32,800
Let's let's be real.
This in the fucking name that

2442
02:34:32,800 --> 02:34:35,900
we're talking about here.
Ellen Johnson would be as South

2443
02:34:35,900 --> 02:34:38,300
Carolina.
If the old staff was still

2444
02:34:38,300 --> 02:34:41,100
fucking here.
Wasn't even looking at tick.

2445
02:34:41,200 --> 02:34:41,600
Tick.
What?

2446
02:34:41,600 --> 02:34:43,900
Name?
Looking their way now.

2447
02:34:43,900 --> 02:34:45,800
Guess what?
He's coming.

2448
02:34:46,300 --> 02:34:48,400
And he's got a brother behind
him.

2449
02:34:48,800 --> 02:34:51,600
Yes.
And he coming to Tech but You do

2450
02:34:51,600 --> 02:34:53,600
this thing right man.
You build those relationships,

2451
02:34:53,600 --> 02:34:55,600
right?
You know, you set yourself up

2452
02:34:55,600 --> 02:34:58,000
for those top kids.
Another thing I don't want to

2453
02:34:58,000 --> 02:35:01,400
talk too much about about you
know, what's going on in

2454
02:35:01,400 --> 02:35:04,600
Colorado because fuck that's
good.

2455
02:35:04,600 --> 02:35:08,300
Now let's talk about what's good
for Colorado.

2456
02:35:14,100 --> 02:35:17,500
What Dionne went in and did and
all I wished I would have went

2457
02:35:17,500 --> 02:35:21,300
in and did that or if I was a
coach, I would ever Cheering

2458
02:35:21,400 --> 02:35:26,600
every situation is different.
If Pride would have came in and

2459
02:35:26,600 --> 02:35:30,900
did what Dion did with the
amount of bridges that were

2460
02:35:30,900 --> 02:35:33,200
already burned?
He would have fucked himself.

2461
02:35:33,400 --> 02:35:34,700
Yep.
If he would have came in and

2462
02:35:34,700 --> 02:35:37,200
told everybody, hey you're not
good enough, hit the portal, get

2463
02:35:37,200 --> 02:35:40,000
the fuck out.
That would have been very bad

2464
02:35:40,000 --> 02:35:41,500
for this staff.
Yeah.

2465
02:35:42,000 --> 02:35:44,700
I think he bit the bullet and
said, hey, I'm going to give

2466
02:35:44,700 --> 02:35:47,700
everybody a shot a shot.
We're going to go through this

2467
02:35:47,700 --> 02:35:49,900
year.
I mean, I knew where we were and

2468
02:35:49,900 --> 02:35:52,200
he knew where we want to be.
Where is it?

2469
02:35:52,200 --> 02:35:55,700
A Yadi on new Dion.
Dion knows.

2470
02:35:55,700 --> 02:36:00,400
How fucking big his dick is not
say what it is.

2471
02:36:00,800 --> 02:36:03,200
But yeah, those how big his dick
is, all right.

2472
02:36:03,200 --> 02:36:07,900
Oh, big so, I mean, he knows
that he can go in there and say

2473
02:36:08,200 --> 02:36:11,500
all right if you want to be a
part of what we're doing, you're

2474
02:36:11,500 --> 02:36:16,100
in if you don't fuck you but we
don't we don't have the

2475
02:36:16,100 --> 02:36:19,600
situation where you can say fuck
you move on.

2476
02:36:19,900 --> 02:36:22,200
Now we got two.
Build some bridges.

2477
02:36:22,500 --> 02:36:24,000
But yeah, that was some fucking
Bridges.

2478
02:36:24,200 --> 02:36:27,200
But to tallies Point tell you,
just basically saying Pride came

2479
02:36:27,200 --> 02:36:30,000
in and said, we everybody you
got a shot.

2480
02:36:30,000 --> 02:36:31,500
Tell me what the fuck you can
do.

2481
02:36:31,700 --> 02:36:35,100
Ya got it is it is December
2000.

2482
02:36:35,100 --> 02:36:37,500
Few minutes.
You got one year pain, if he

2483
02:36:37,500 --> 02:36:42,400
would have came in with that
same attitude, the deal on did

2484
02:36:42,800 --> 02:36:45,700
you wouldn't have people?
Like, I money.

2485
02:36:45,700 --> 02:36:49,200
Chapman knowing, hey, I'm
transferring, but I love,

2486
02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:52,800
Virginia Tech.
You know what, let's talk about

2487
02:36:52,800 --> 02:36:56,700
amarna Chapman little bit
because I love Armani Chapman,

2488
02:36:56,900 --> 02:37:01,000
not saying, in that time Armani
Chapman has given nothing but

2489
02:37:01,000 --> 02:37:05,200
love to Virginia Tech.
I know he is going and doing a

2490
02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:06,900
different different router for
him.

2491
02:37:06,900 --> 02:37:11,000
Right?
Best route for him, fuck you.

2492
02:37:11,000 --> 02:37:14,100
But he but he is went out there
and said nothing but love for

2493
02:37:14,100 --> 02:37:17,800
Virginia Tech and big up
everybody else in the process,

2494
02:37:17,800 --> 02:37:19,000
right?
Oh God.

2495
02:37:19,000 --> 02:37:21,600
This is where you, this is a
great place to be Motherfuckers

2496
02:37:21,600 --> 02:37:23,600
dead to me?
No, you would think you would

2497
02:37:23,600 --> 02:37:28,500
think you should not be Jeremy.
Jeremy, you, you are undermining

2498
02:37:28,500 --> 02:37:30,400
everything I'm saying right now.
You should?

2499
02:37:30,400 --> 02:37:31,300
He should?
Yes.

2500
02:37:51,600 --> 02:37:55,300
Who are we playing when playing
Carolina next year?

2501
02:37:55,800 --> 02:37:59,000
That's, I know, that's what I'm
saying, Carolina.

2502
02:37:59,000 --> 02:38:00,900
Don't mean shit.
Unless we're trying to play for

2503
02:38:00,900 --> 02:38:04,300
the conference Championship.
If we meet goddamn, we meet them

2504
02:38:04,300 --> 02:38:08,400
in the conference Championship.
I don't give a shit what he

2505
02:38:08,400 --> 02:38:12,100
said.
Damn, cop, shoutout, I stand by

2506
02:38:12,100 --> 02:38:13,400
my statement.
Real.

2507
02:38:13,800 --> 02:38:18,200
The honest truth about that
though is all of those guys who

2508
02:38:18,200 --> 02:38:21,300
are leaving are basically giving
shoutouts talking about gold,

2509
02:38:21,500 --> 02:38:25,100
There, this is a ver loving on
what the staff is doing,

2510
02:38:25,100 --> 02:38:28,100
regardless of whether they're
going to another step up or

2511
02:38:28,100 --> 02:38:30,800
another step down anything in
the middle.

2512
02:38:31,300 --> 02:38:34,600
That's what is Big right now is
huge.

2513
02:38:34,600 --> 02:38:37,600
Is that Virginia Tech has some
fucking momentum.

2514
02:38:38,000 --> 02:38:41,200
They have some fucking juice on
the trail.

2515
02:38:41,800 --> 02:38:43,800
It's true.
It's very, very true.

2516
02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:47,500
I skip this because I got a
freaking pull y'all boys back in

2517
02:38:47,500 --> 02:38:50,500
because believe it or not, it's
11:37.

2518
02:38:50,500 --> 02:38:52,600
We've been over two hours.
Hours already and we got a

2519
02:38:52,608 --> 02:38:56,400
couple more things to hit
Jeremy, who's your favourite of

2520
02:38:56,400 --> 02:39:02,300
this class.
Are we talking full recruiting?

2521
02:39:02,300 --> 02:39:07,300
Or we talking about transfer?
No, just the recruiting class.

2522
02:39:07,400 --> 02:39:13,000
Oh, sorry, my bad, my bad.
Fuck you, Curtis.

2523
02:39:13,600 --> 02:39:16,700
I think like that.
Actually the offensive lineman

2524
02:39:17,600 --> 02:39:24,400
which one?
Why Kim Well, do you care Holly

2525
02:39:24,400 --> 02:39:27,800
James?
No, he laid him out.

2526
02:39:27,800 --> 02:39:30,200
He's some of the old Lyman.
Oh shit.

2527
02:39:30,700 --> 02:39:33,000
Why men are you talking about
the hammer?

2528
02:39:34,200 --> 02:39:40,300
Yes, Hans.
You just had all that shit

2529
02:39:40,300 --> 02:39:44,900
prepared for everyone else that
it's just like new recruits.

2530
02:39:45,300 --> 02:39:49,000
You don't leave.
I mean, yes, you took the

2531
02:39:49,000 --> 02:39:50,200
gamble.
Tell me what you're talking

2532
02:39:50,200 --> 02:40:08,600
about.
Right.

2533
02:40:08,600 --> 02:40:12,600
Yeah, Caleb Woodson.
You're right.

2534
02:40:13,500 --> 02:40:15,000
That's that's what I'm gonna go
with.

2535
02:40:15,500 --> 02:40:21,200
What's it is the dude, from VA,
63 200 pounds.

2536
02:40:21,700 --> 02:40:23,900
Playing what linebacker or
safety?

2537
02:40:24,700 --> 02:40:30,100
He's playing Sam Sam.
You don't be sad like that Hill.

2538
02:40:34,400 --> 02:40:37,500
Am I mispronounced against label
it right?

2539
02:40:38,000 --> 02:40:40,700
Ladies cannot, mmm.
They are those.

2540
02:40:44,600 --> 02:40:46,700
What the fuck?
I don't even pronounce.

2541
02:40:46,700 --> 02:40:50,000
This guy's name.
He's a big ass.

2542
02:40:50,100 --> 02:40:57,100
He's a big ass offense of
lineman from Yes, that's my

2543
02:40:57,100 --> 02:41:26,000
favorite.
Yes.

2544
02:41:26,100 --> 02:41:27,300
Sweet.
Wonderful.

2545
02:41:27,300 --> 02:41:31,400
At first better to fuck himself
a, a seagull.

2546
02:41:31,400 --> 02:41:38,700
You going to edit this tomorrow?
Maybe it's live.

2547
02:41:38,700 --> 02:41:40,600
It is, this is why you come here
live.

2548
02:41:40,600 --> 02:41:42,000
We're still at sitting like
that.

2549
02:41:42,000 --> 02:41:44,800
But 20 people dropping us.
But for real, the favorite of

2550
02:41:44,808 --> 02:41:51,000
this class for me, I want to go
with one that was just kind of

2551
02:41:52,000 --> 02:41:53,100
know.
I got to be real.

2552
02:41:53,500 --> 02:41:55,900
I think Brendan Johnson is my
favorite in this class because

2553
02:41:56,100 --> 02:41:58,700
cuz I feel like this is the kid
that's going to come in and

2554
02:41:58,700 --> 02:42:02,700
actually change the program
because you look at him Pop's

2555
02:42:02,700 --> 02:42:05,800
played here, pops is good.
Here pops is down, 15 state

2556
02:42:05,800 --> 02:42:07,800
titles, he's going to come in
here.

2557
02:42:07,800 --> 02:42:10,700
He's gonna set this down
expectation, I Gotta Feeling

2558
02:42:10,700 --> 02:42:13,400
breathless when probably getting
a few fights with people, but I

2559
02:42:13,408 --> 02:42:15,800
think brother is going to be a
damn, good strong safety.

2560
02:42:16,300 --> 02:42:19,500
I mean, Brennan's gonna break
some heads and I think braylon's

2561
02:42:19,500 --> 02:42:22,000
that kid, there's gonna be kids
from the r-va.

2562
02:42:22,000 --> 02:42:25,100
There's gonna be kids just up
the street here where I live

2563
02:42:25,100 --> 02:42:29,200
Godwin, There will be kids just
down the street from where Brian

2564
02:42:29,200 --> 02:42:33,100
lives and like Hanover.
And it's cool.

2565
02:42:33,100 --> 02:42:37,500
Like Patrick Henry, that's a
Brendan Johnson went there and

2566
02:42:37,500 --> 02:42:41,100
he made something of himself.
And then I think there's gonna

2567
02:42:41,100 --> 02:42:44,100
be kids from the 75 that
eventually start looking at

2568
02:42:44,300 --> 02:42:46,500
Highland Springs.
What Highland Springs have done?

2569
02:42:47,900 --> 02:42:49,700
They've done with the kids from
Sam.

2570
02:42:49,700 --> 02:42:53,200
Like Sam kids from the
Mechanicsville earlier.

2571
02:42:53,600 --> 02:43:03,600
Yeah Sam Sam, Sam and Austin can
Sam and I do with fucking same

2572
02:43:03,600 --> 02:43:06,800
as doing.
So you talk about a god Tech,

2573
02:43:06,800 --> 02:43:08,200
that's building a program up
there.

2574
02:43:09,000 --> 02:43:11,900
I think Braille And Johnson is
my favorite recruit from the

2575
02:43:11,900 --> 02:43:15,900
staff or from.
Okay, is a fucking boss.

2576
02:43:16,500 --> 02:43:20,200
We need his brother too.
Yeah, for real.

2577
02:43:20,800 --> 02:43:25,300
So once even let's see what
they're doing though, for real,

2578
02:43:25,300 --> 02:43:38,800
for real for, with the Fucking
sober ass motherfuckers that I

2579
02:43:38,800 --> 02:43:46,900
see the bullet that I need to
send that link.

2580
02:43:46,900 --> 02:43:50,500
I will, who's your favorite
recruit from this class right

2581
02:43:50,500 --> 02:43:54,100
now from this class from this
class.

2582
02:43:55,100 --> 02:44:00,800
Braylon right onto.
But I think the reason why we

2583
02:44:00,800 --> 02:44:05,200
sit here and say that is did
y'all watch, did y'all tally in

2584
02:44:05,200 --> 02:44:07,500
Germany's Josie?
The bud, tweet today.

2585
02:44:07,500 --> 02:44:08,700
The tweet that went out with
Bud.

2586
02:44:08,700 --> 02:44:11,800
Talking about that today.
Yeah, what did he say?

2587
02:44:12,000 --> 02:44:13,900
Basically, like, dude, I coach,
you're dead.

2588
02:44:13,900 --> 02:44:15,800
You're dead.
Was here when we started this,

2589
02:44:16,500 --> 02:44:19,800
it was that emotion of, like you
knew.

2590
02:44:20,200 --> 02:44:23,400
Brain was one of the OG dogs.
Oh, yeah.

2591
02:44:23,400 --> 02:44:25,400
Now.
It's Bud there.

2592
02:44:25,400 --> 02:44:28,100
Talking to him.
Handing off to pry, who prowl

2593
02:44:28,100 --> 02:44:32,100
was one of those.
Oh, ggas, who sat there and

2594
02:44:32,100 --> 02:44:37,100
grinded his fucking ass off for
bud and them in 95, 96 97.

2595
02:44:37,100 --> 02:44:40,300
When we were building this shit.
When we were, I said back, and

2596
02:44:40,300 --> 02:44:43,300
just think we were, we were
puppies.

2597
02:44:44,000 --> 02:44:47,200
Jeremy, you were a young buck.
I was in my, we me, and Brian

2598
02:44:47,200 --> 02:44:50,400
will work 12, 11 years old,
watching, Tech watch when the

2599
02:44:50,400 --> 02:44:54,000
Sugar Bowl orange out there
playing and you get that kids,

2600
02:44:54,200 --> 02:44:58,400
you get that.
Ask kid, he commits to you and

2601
02:44:58,400 --> 02:45:00,800
it's like, yeah, I made him
good.

2602
02:45:00,800 --> 02:45:04,400
He is now turned a program into
a freaking monster in the state.

2603
02:45:04,500 --> 02:45:08,800
His son is coming here to play
for a guy that G8 under me and

2604
02:45:08,800 --> 02:45:11,700
you sit here and it's like this
whole it's like everything's

2605
02:45:11,700 --> 02:45:17,300
like coming together, right?
And I think braylon's because I

2606
02:45:17,308 --> 02:45:20,900
think Braylon has a freaking ton
of influence, I think there's

2607
02:45:20,900 --> 02:45:23,700
going to be kids here in a few
years ago up to visit Braylon

2608
02:45:24,100 --> 02:45:26,800
and Braille Owens going to have
four rings on his damn finger

2609
02:45:26,800 --> 02:45:29,400
from state championships and my
hope to God.

2610
02:45:29,400 --> 02:45:33,300
He puts a damn ACC Championship
on that phone and he says, I

2611
02:45:33,308 --> 02:45:35,900
want these in high school, I
wasn't this attack.

2612
02:45:36,600 --> 02:45:41,400
And then even when even to your
point is well, when we talk

2613
02:45:41,400 --> 02:45:47,000
about how many state champions
that we got out of the high

2614
02:45:47,000 --> 02:45:51,500
school kids when we talk about
learning how to win, I mean,

2615
02:45:51,500 --> 02:45:54,100
fuck Indian winners and that's
how you win.

2616
02:45:54,700 --> 02:45:59,600
Bringing winners in your brain
leadership in based on the time

2617
02:46:00,000 --> 02:46:01,500
what they say we have like
twenty twenty.

2618
02:46:01,500 --> 02:46:05,700
One of those kids was like, team
captains, 21 of the 21 of the

2619
02:46:05,700 --> 02:46:09,900
24th were team captains.
Like, I know we bullshit, we

2620
02:46:09,900 --> 02:46:12,900
won't dogs, but you won't cap,
you know what capsule?

2621
02:46:12,900 --> 02:46:17,400
Do a lot of captains are dogs.
Yeah, funny glasses are dogs as

2622
02:46:17,400 --> 02:46:20,200
motherfuckers.
See there's racing repair happen

2623
02:46:20,200 --> 02:46:22,600
to know two and I'm sure you
slap the fuck out of some people

2624
02:46:22,600 --> 02:46:24,700
and said straight up fucking
Yeah.

2625
02:46:24,700 --> 02:46:27,000
Yeah.
You got a fucking slap, some

2626
02:46:27,000 --> 02:46:28,600
guys, out of the motherfucking
like that.

2627
02:46:28,900 --> 02:46:29,700
You know what?
You're right.

2628
02:46:29,700 --> 02:46:31,900
Let's hit real quick.
Let's go to the portal.

2629
02:46:34,800 --> 02:46:36,900
Could we have ever dreamed?
We hit the for, like we had

2630
02:46:36,900 --> 02:46:40,800
before.
When we heard Ali Jennings is

2631
02:46:40,800 --> 02:46:42,400
Gallo.
He dancing.

2632
02:46:42,700 --> 02:46:45,100
And then it's like your name's.
Yes, nice.

2633
02:46:45,100 --> 02:46:47,500
That's a lie.
Jenna's burned is actually.

2634
02:46:47,500 --> 02:46:49,200
AA Li jun's last few years over
to you.

2635
02:46:49,300 --> 02:46:51,600
You played him.
He burned your ass for yards.

2636
02:46:52,200 --> 02:46:54,400
Then we heard this like a
motherfucker man.

2637
02:46:54,700 --> 02:46:57,700
Fucking catchiest Dorian.
Deep that fucked us in the

2638
02:46:57,700 --> 02:47:00,900
fucking fucked us.
Right through the heart then you

2639
02:47:00,900 --> 02:47:02,500
get drones.
And a lot of people are like

2640
02:47:02,500 --> 02:47:06,400
well who the hell is this kid?
Y'all went on the boards.

2641
02:47:06,700 --> 02:47:09,900
Will you read people like Baylor
was crushed and they thought

2642
02:47:09,900 --> 02:47:12,300
they were and get the kiddos on
like all this kid right here is

2643
02:47:12,308 --> 02:47:14,200
come with us.
We're okay, we're gonna be okay.

2644
02:47:14,400 --> 02:47:18,400
That kid went to Oregon today.
He just gutted them because they

2645
02:47:18,400 --> 02:47:20,300
thought they had drones.
They thought they had to get

2646
02:47:20,300 --> 02:47:21,800
going to Oregon.
They're gutted.

2647
02:47:21,900 --> 02:47:24,900
They thought they had a fucking
midpoint and they didn't Ain't

2648
02:47:24,900 --> 02:47:26,200
they didn't?
They just got fucked because

2649
02:47:26,200 --> 02:47:28,500
drones is coming here.
Running the are running the

2650
02:47:28,500 --> 02:47:33,900
frickin RPO spread and then the
two today without a spread for

2651
02:47:33,900 --> 02:47:37,800
real not for real fuck.
So we were talking about

2652
02:47:37,800 --> 02:47:43,400
Moorhead going into the season.
We did we don't we saw more play

2653
02:47:43,400 --> 02:47:47,800
action running game, deep deep
shots and shit.

2654
02:47:48,400 --> 02:47:53,400
But what we really talking about
going into the 2023 season is

2655
02:47:53,400 --> 02:47:55,400
the fucking Warhead.
Ed system.

2656
02:47:56,700 --> 02:47:58,400
So, let's talk about that a
little bit.

2657
02:47:59,000 --> 02:48:01,800
Well, let's talk about, let's
talk about the two guys that are

2658
02:48:01,800 --> 02:48:05,400
gonna be on the outside for me,
that's belting and Jennings.

2659
02:48:05,600 --> 02:48:10,800
And if drones wins this job
coming out, he will he will

2660
02:48:11,300 --> 02:48:17,000
write it, y'all 1221 2022.
He gonna win it.

2661
02:48:17,600 --> 02:48:20,400
He went in it.
If drones wins this and we go to

2662
02:48:20,400 --> 02:48:24,400
that system, he is an he and
might be the perfect specimen

2663
02:48:24,400 --> 02:48:31,500
for an RPO spread because of His
athleticism and his arm Jeremy.

2664
02:48:31,500 --> 02:48:34,200
Tell me what you got.
That was a deep breath, Gervin,

2665
02:48:34,200 --> 02:48:36,600
big fucking side.
When I hope that's what we're

2666
02:48:36,600 --> 02:48:40,500
doing.
It's literally exactly what we

2667
02:48:40,500 --> 02:48:42,500
want, right?
Yeah.

2668
02:48:42,800 --> 02:48:45,600
Get us some shit.
Right.

2669
02:48:46,400 --> 02:48:48,200
What else do you have to say
about it?

2670
02:48:48,500 --> 02:48:50,400
It's not much.
We're going to get him.

2671
02:48:50,400 --> 02:48:53,500
He's gonna come in, and we're
going to have this.

2672
02:48:53,500 --> 02:48:59,400
But if he underperforms.
They will eat him.

2673
02:48:59,400 --> 02:49:04,100
Yeah, they will are fainted
earlier one if he doesn't have

2674
02:49:04,100 --> 02:49:18,700
it, it's gonna be ugly but if he
agreed with you, so go, we have

2675
02:49:18,700 --> 02:49:22,600
heard him to that first year
because he may come in and be

2676
02:49:22,600 --> 02:49:24,900
awesome.
What do you say that Ali?

2677
02:49:25,100 --> 02:49:27,800
I was just saying to go to
Curtis is, probably next point,

2678
02:49:27,800 --> 02:49:34,200
when we're talking, when we're
talking transfer guys, coming in

2679
02:49:34,900 --> 02:49:40,100
drones is great to have.
We don't know, 100% what he's

2680
02:49:40,100 --> 02:49:41,100
going to do.
We don't know if he's going to

2681
02:49:41,108 --> 02:49:45,000
win the job, but at least, if he
doesn't win the job, you have

2682
02:49:45,000 --> 02:49:46,100
somebody.
That's legit.

2683
02:49:46,100 --> 02:49:50,700
Pushing, whoever does win the
job and then besides that, we

2684
02:49:50,700 --> 02:49:52,600
kind of know what?
We're getting out of Jennings

2685
02:49:53,000 --> 02:49:57,600
Because we've seen them, but my
favorite Was probably Felton

2686
02:49:58,300 --> 02:50:01,000
because it's fucking point gives
us.

2687
02:50:01,300 --> 02:50:05,600
He gives if he can come because
Felton reminds me, a lot of

2688
02:50:06,300 --> 02:50:09,500
Damon Hazelton.
You know, Hazelton was at at

2689
02:50:09,500 --> 02:50:11,200
Ball State, goddamn, you're
right.

2690
02:50:11,500 --> 02:50:15,600
He comes in, he comes in and he
gives us the production that he

2691
02:50:15,600 --> 02:50:18,800
does Felton seems to be that
same guy.

2692
02:50:19,500 --> 02:50:24,200
I feel like Caleb Smith gave us
what he could give us but we

2693
02:50:24,200 --> 02:50:28,500
didn't have anybody going.
Second we didn't have a second

2694
02:50:28,500 --> 02:50:31,800
receiver.
Yeah, be like okay well we can't

2695
02:50:31,800 --> 02:50:34,900
take any pressure off of him
because all we had was tight

2696
02:50:34,900 --> 02:50:38,300
ends for me.
I feel like Feldon come in.

2697
02:50:38,300 --> 02:50:42,100
If felting and come in and give
us what Katelyn Smith gave us

2698
02:50:42,100 --> 02:50:43,800
this year.
I think we'll be fine.

2699
02:50:43,800 --> 02:50:46,400
We are going to be found.
We're going to be found goddamn

2700
02:50:46,400 --> 02:50:48,200
tally.
Fuck, speaking, Spanish.

2701
02:50:48,300 --> 02:50:51,500
If he can give if he can give us
if he can give us.

2702
02:50:51,900 --> 02:50:56,500
Six hundred yards 600 plus they
asked the motherfucker All

2703
02:50:56,508 --> 02:51:00,400
right, there he Isabel right.
There is gonna replace what

2704
02:51:00,400 --> 02:51:04,400
Kayla Smith gave us this year
and then Ali Jennings is going

2705
02:51:04,400 --> 02:51:07,700
to be that dude.
And then drones is going to be a

2706
02:51:07,700 --> 02:51:14,800
guy that can like give us a high
ceiling for a quarterback that

2707
02:51:14,800 --> 02:51:17,700
we're looking for.
Stop met Neil just made a great

2708
02:51:17,700 --> 02:51:20,200
Point here.
Yes, granny all these of the

2709
02:51:20,208 --> 02:51:24,500
Donna, but of the four guys that
we've recruited of the four

2710
02:51:24,500 --> 02:51:27,600
guys.
We've recruited Ali Jennings is

2711
02:51:27,600 --> 02:51:31,400
going after this year you still
get Felton.

2712
02:51:31,800 --> 02:51:35,600
Drones is a second and then we
ain't talked about Varner bar

2713
02:51:35,600 --> 02:51:39,400
was a freaking First Team, all
League East AAC defensive end up

2714
02:51:39,400 --> 02:51:41,300
in Tempo.
He had seven and a half sacks as

2715
02:51:41,300 --> 02:51:42,900
you had 12 and a half thousand
lost 44.

2716
02:51:43,500 --> 02:51:46,500
Let's talk about a chubby that
I've got it for Varner.

2717
02:51:48,000 --> 02:51:50,000
Let's talk about that.
Well let's just move on with

2718
02:51:50,000 --> 02:51:51,700
that.
We worry about.

2719
02:51:51,800 --> 02:51:54,700
Oh my God, we've got it really
hard and we got it.

2720
02:51:55,500 --> 02:51:58,500
And then all of a sudden
Barnacle Miss today, where

2721
02:51:58,500 --> 02:52:02,100
didn't seem like he was in all
of a sudden it's we thought the

2722
02:52:02,100 --> 02:52:05,100
list Frank was going to be the
motherfucker but it wasn't.

2723
02:52:06,100 --> 02:52:10,000
It wasn't that damn foot injury
that we that we've heard about

2724
02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:14,000
is not there.
So he's in and then all of a

2725
02:52:14,008 --> 02:52:18,400
sudden you know, he is an
animal.

2726
02:52:19,000 --> 02:52:22,300
He's a Maury kid, he's
partnering so happy, he's

2727
02:52:22,300 --> 02:52:26,100
probably one of those kids ten
years ago early 2000's, early

2728
02:52:26,100 --> 02:52:28,300
2010's.
Frank takes?

2729
02:52:29,400 --> 02:52:32,800
We remember how many guys that
Frank took that has some shit

2730
02:52:32,800 --> 02:52:34,600
like this, right?
Yeah.

2731
02:52:34,700 --> 02:52:37,500
In the in the late 2000s and
early 2010's.

2732
02:52:37,800 --> 02:52:39,800
Yeah, you know, Frank tell me,
what do you say?

2733
02:52:40,200 --> 02:52:43,200
Tell me what?
She actually told me, he would

2734
02:52:43,200 --> 02:52:51,200
go into people's excellent, like
homes and he would Go in and

2735
02:52:51,200 --> 02:52:54,500
straight up Jazz.
What was going on in their homes

2736
02:52:54,500 --> 02:53:00,000
and how he could manage it and
even if they were just like wild

2737
02:53:00,000 --> 02:53:05,500
out of control he was just like
okay I can manage this or that

2738
02:53:06,500 --> 02:53:10,600
as far as going in.
Frank rap wasn't 75 and said I

2739
02:53:10,600 --> 02:53:13,500
this is cool.
We got.

2740
02:53:13,500 --> 02:53:17,200
Yes, he might we got this.
Well, we already actually went

2741
02:53:17,200 --> 02:53:42,700
in there and he's just like
of going into Portsmouth.

2742
02:53:43,300 --> 02:53:47,000
All of that shit and saying,
let's talk about what you can do

2743
02:53:47,000 --> 02:53:55,700
for us for Virginia Tech.
Now, he had no fear other

2744
02:53:55,700 --> 02:54:00,000
bullshit, it was about what can
you do for Virginia Tech and how

2745
02:54:00,000 --> 02:54:05,800
we can help you in your goals?
Yes, Frank actually did this

2746
02:54:05,800 --> 02:54:09,200
entire thing where he went in
and he was just like I'm going

2747
02:54:09,200 --> 02:54:11,100
to meet your family.
I'm going to do all this.

2748
02:54:11,500 --> 02:54:14,100
How can I help you?
How can I do all this?

2749
02:54:14,200 --> 02:54:18,500
That's what mate, Frank Beamer,
so fucking good.

2750
02:54:18,600 --> 02:54:22,500
Frank was that dude?
Because he understood how to

2751
02:54:22,500 --> 02:54:29,200
understand the landscape of
Virginia recruiting, and I hope

2752
02:54:29,200 --> 02:54:32,500
it's more, like this, that the
interaction tonight we had.

2753
02:54:32,500 --> 02:54:36,000
I love having Jeremy here.
Jeremy.

2754
02:54:36,200 --> 02:54:38,000
Love you man.
I love you Kelly.

2755
02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:40,800
I love you man.
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2756
02:54:40,800 --> 02:54:45,400
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2757
02:54:45,400 --> 02:54:48,300
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2758
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2759
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2760
02:54:58,200 --> 02:55:01,400
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2763
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2764
02:55:12,400 --> 02:55:15,500
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2765
02:55:15,500 --> 02:55:18,400
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2766
02:55:18,400 --> 02:55:21,900
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2767
02:55:21,900 --> 02:55:25,100
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2768
02:55:25,100 --> 02:55:27,800
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2769
02:55:28,100 --> 02:55:30,800
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2770
02:55:31,400 --> 02:55:35,900
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2771
02:55:36,000 --> 02:55:39,400
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2772
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