For the first time in State of the Program history we are opening up the mics and cameras to the listeners. This episode has always been a joint celebration or commiseration with fellow fans and we're taking that literally this year. The James Franklin era is upon us in Blacksburg, the staff is starting to take shape, and the portal window is on the horizon. Join BCP and let us know what has you most exciting about the James Franklin era and what things are still giving you pause.

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Whether you like it or don't
like it, learn the love it

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because it is the best thing.
Go on.

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner podcasts and a yearly

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holiday tradition unlike any
other with the state of the

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program.
Along with my partner Brian

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Siegler, hopefully you'll be
joining us soon.

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Jonathan Talley, our special
guests, Robbie Compton, our

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favorite coach, Where would the
hell Phil went because Phil was

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on here when we hit the button
and they said devices are not

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connected.
So we are having some technical

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difficulties with Sally and Phil
tonight, but we're working

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through those.
But as we work through those, I

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want to say a big welcome to
everybody.

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This is State of the program
Home for the Holidays edition.

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It is festive in this bitch.
It is festive in this bitch.

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So hope everybody had a a Merry
Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, all

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all the good holidays out there,
every holiday you may.

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Celebrate.
Yes, Sir.

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And I will say this is a special
episode and we lost Robbie.

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Hey, technical issues be be
damned.

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We're we're pushing forward,
fellas.

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Special edition guys, 'cause
this is home for the holidays.

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Pretend that we're at a bar.
Pretend that we're at a bar.

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You're at home for the holidays.
You're hanging out with guys

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that you've known for a while.
And you know what, you got to

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hit that little QR code at the
top and you'll be able to join

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us and talk a little bit with
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And we'll kick it.
We'll, we'll sip a little bit

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and it's going to be a good
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So anybody that wants to jump
on, talk a little bit about

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these Hokies, feel free to do
that.

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And we're going, we're going to
get this thing going.

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Man, we got a lot of circling.
Hey, we, we got Robbie in

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Clover, VA, good old Halifax
County.

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The the Internet is is doing
Halifax County Internet things.

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100%. 100% but we got Phil Bomas
on the Mari baby wonderful

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sponsor all pound hokey going to
hokey game since he was in the.

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Womb 40.
Plus, years ago, if anybody can

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beat Phil on the number of years
they've been attending games,

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please join us tonight.
But I like what Brian said, and

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this is kind of the way it's
going to be this year.

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Usually it's like the way it's
been the last four years we've

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done this right.
Four years, we started in 21,

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five years we did it in 2020.
I don't remember anything

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anymore.
But treat it this year like

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you're at a local bar with all
your things you.

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Don't remember some of them.
It is true.

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Well.
Yeah, Hey, hey, hey.

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Yeah, mainly I'm.
Not I'm not doing a whole bottle

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of white label Evan tonight.
I I've got I've got the stone

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DIPA.
One reason it's going to.

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Be a whole lot.
Better than than that 19 where I

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just blacked out about 2/3 of
the way through.

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Hokie football blacked out for
like the past three years.

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We need to get back through.
They get off the couch.

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Mr. Talley.
I made.

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Hey, stone cold sober on
painkillers though with all

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those tooth problems.
Man, there's been a struggle

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over here.
They don't work unless you drink

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a beer.
There you go.

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Or. 6 right, that's right,
that's right but so so Ron was

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saying like treat this like a
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We're here, we're at the bar we
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drinks or something somebody
might not be drinking because if

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he drinks, who knows what's
going to happen with his pain

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medication.
And the only agenda we have is

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what we're bringing to the
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This is a very loose, loose
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We're just going to kind of talk
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everything, how things are going
and we want y'all's opinions

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too.
Yep, because it is the state of

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the program and and that's is
where do you feel we're at,

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whether it be financially, coach
wise, player wise, anything you

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can think of.
And you feel like you need to

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get off, get off your chest.
So you know, and obviously over

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the every year, you know me,
Tally Bron, Phil's jumped on a

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few times with us.
He's disappeared, probably

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grabbing a beer right now.
Robbie's jumping on with us.

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We're going to give you our
honest opinions.

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We're we're not sitting here.
There you go, Phil.

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We're we're not sitting here
just like playing Christmas

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pictures, man.
We're not just we, we never sit

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here and play through the ear of
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We're going to give you our
honest to God opinion of what

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we're thinking about, how we're
thinking about it, whether we

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feel good, bad, and different.
That was 2022 was the year

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everything went sideways because
everything was sideways at that

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point in time.
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sideways for a long time and
then it feels like it's not and

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sideways anymore.
Still a lot of shit to do, but

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that's what we want to hear.
Whatever you want to talk about,

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we'll talk about.
We lost Robbie again.

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I see, Cat, you didn't.
You didn't lose me.

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You told me to act like I was at
the bar, so I'm making a noise.

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So I'm on, I'm on.
Toss it to Phil first, because

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Phil, me and you texted and you
talked with me and Brian and.

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We.
Have not heard from you much

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since the hire has been made and
I know you've been busy with

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work.
Bill's always working.

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It'd be hilarious if you got a
call right now and had to do

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something while you're on it.
That'd be great, Bill.

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Also, if if y'all didn't know,
if you paid attention to the

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Tech game down in the Bahamas,
you should have seen Phil in the

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crowd because he went down there
for the basketball tournament.

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He was easily spotable.
Well, you know Phil.

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So.
Phil, let's feel what your takes

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are because I know you've got
some different opinions than

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other folks.
I mean, yeah, that Bahamas trip

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was awesome though.
Like we will walk around and see

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like all the players, all the
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It was really cool.
So yeah, I mean, I'm really

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happy that Franklin's there to
get our act together because we

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were a mess.
I'm just in the show me stage,

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honestly.
Like you just got to show me

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like that's all.
Like, I love winning the

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recruiting.
That's awesome.

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I love getting these high school
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That's awesome.
I love that we seem to be more

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professional, but you still got
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schedule's brutal, guys.
Next year's schedule like at

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least travel wise, is brutal.
Like lot.

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Of fucking.
Travel on the road to Cal on the

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road to Dallas, on the road in
Boston, on the road in Clemson,

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on the road in Maryland, on the
road and I'm forgetting what

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Miami on the road in Miami.
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Like, like he's going to get a
real dose of not the big 10

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right is what he's going to get.
So it's, it's, I don't know.

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I, I just want to see it.
I, I just want I'm in the show

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me state of, of what we're
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And I assume we're not going to
get a lot of information out

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because I'd assume he locks
stuff down pretty hard as well,

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too, where there's not going to
be a lot of information out and

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he don't really care about what
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I would guess based on his
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He don't give a shit what people
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I can tell you that.
He he doesn't give a shit.

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Let me ask this though, Bill to
you on the the the thing that I

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think I don't know how many of
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when everything came down money
wise, Are you shocked that

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because the one thing you were
concerned about, Oh, he's

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grabbing another one.
The one thing this is just like

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a bar.
The one thing you were concerned

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about was like the money and it
seems like the next three or

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four years.
That shit's in.

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Did that shock?
You, I mean you first of all, I,

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I, I, I joke, I, I don't joke
about when I say Phil has been

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going to games since he was in
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His dad was an alumni.
It was his alma mater.

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It's Phil's alma mater.
And literally he was going there

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since, you know, But were you
shocked that when everything

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came down that the money just
came rolling in?

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I don't know if shocked is the
right word.

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Again, I just, I want to see if
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because it seems like every
program's throwing money at it,

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right?
Like shit, Cincinnati's

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committed.
I mean, no, what?

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Not Cincinnati.
Wisconsin's committed to

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football now and paying money.
Like everybody's committed to

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putting money towards football
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important it is.
So I don't know if shocked is

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the right word.
I just think that I don't think

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people have been asked like Jay
Pearson's been on the interview

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circuit, man, he's been doing
great.

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And it's like he literally was
like, it's basically like you

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got to ask these people for
money.

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Like if the answer what I the
answer's no if you don't ask.

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And a lot of these, and it's ego
driven too, like, hey, 20

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million.
Well, Mr. Anonymous gave 20

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million.
I bet we can give 22 million.

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Let's do that.
It's like there's some of that.

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I'd assume that's a rich person
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I don't know, like I guess, but
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they can do it.
But no, I, I, I'm not shocked by

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the money because I mean,
Franklin does move the needle on

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that.
If we'd hired Chesney, we

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wouldn't be get, I don't know if
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donation.
Maybe we would, I don't know.

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So what do you think, Ally?
Is that something?

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That's something you said two
months ago about Franklin, Yeah.

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Yeah, no, you got to be able to
sell something.

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They walk into a place and get
money, like Phil said.

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But it also has to be some
results as well.

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Like just exactly what he was
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Like you can throw money at it
and people's going to be you.

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You can sell somebody a car
until that car don't work, you

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know what I'm saying?
Like you can look good until

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that motherfucker don't crank,
you know, and and and and don't

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get, you know, you can't get to
from point A to point B and you

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can't put it in car shows.
So why am I going to keep

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throwing money at something that
that that doesn't work?

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So I thought Franklin or Shane
Beamer would be the two that

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could get the most money out of
the boosters because they would

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move the needle, needle in in
the booster room.

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So now he's doing what he's
supposed to do with what I

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thought he would do in
recruiting.

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But it has to translate to the
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So that's what we got to like
Phil said, it's, you know, we've

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been hurt so much.
It's a wait and see thing, you

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know, yeah, it's great to get
kids and bring kids back.

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But everybody was excited about
Pop Watson being a a hokey and

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then he never played, so I can't
say I don't get to cry to.

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He he's he's got as many wins
against UVA as drones does.

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Yeah, that's true.
It's like.

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Very true.
But I, yeah, I agree.

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No, I don't.
I don't know how we're going to.

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Yeah, we, I don't know.
But you, you, you got to win.

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It doesn't like that's the whole
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It doesn't matter who the coach
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Like next year's tough, it's
hard to win.

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Next year's going to be hard to
win, hard to win.

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It's going to be is that 20
million coming in five and

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seven?
If the roster stood as it is

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right now, I would say, yeah,
it's going to be tough as shit

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to win.
But really over the next month

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is where you're going to find
out is people get moved out and

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people get moved in.
Because the one thing that

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caught my ear during the press
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ago, and he said it, he's
probably going to use the portal

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more than he ever has this first
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And what that tells me is after
tomorrow, 12 O clock game

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tomorrow, that game's going to
end about 3 or 330.

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Be ready for them.
It's supposed to.

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By the way, if y'all didn't
hear, basically all the Penn

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State offensive line is
decommitted from playing in the

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bowl game tomorrow.
Yeah.

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And they put is that game
tomorrow?

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I didn't know.
Tomorrow, Tomorrow.

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When he.
Said.

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I knew the 12.
That's sort of the thing, huh?

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Oh.
Yeah, we can get into that.

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Oh, I, oh, we can get into that
because it, it sucks.

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Like growing up with it, like we
all did.

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We're all roughly the same age
growing up.

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Bowl games are awesome man.
You see a team on national TV,

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you know as you get older you
have some drinks at the bar

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watching them.
Or in in the case of Phil in

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1999, travelling to the Sugar
Bowl.

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Lucky bastard.
We did do that on the train from

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Charleston.
That was really long.

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Wait a minute.
You took a train from Charleston

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all the way to New Orleans.
We did.

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We did.
Devonte, let's go there.

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We.
Go.

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Let's go.
Mr. Lester.

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Mr. Lester.
Mr. Lester.

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How the heck are we drinking a
little shine?

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No, this is a running joke that
y'all don't know about that when

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me and Tally call each other, we
have a different middle name

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every time we call each other.
So someday it'd be Aloysius.

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Aloysius.
Aloysius is my favorite now.

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I knew about Aloysius because
Tally dropped that in the group

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chat from time to.
Time.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Another time it could be.

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Cavazier he could be.
Whatever you want.

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You know, but we are since we
celebrating the it's the state

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of the program, right?
All.

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Right, so we're going to go a
shot of shine, a shot of two XO

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and a little bit of simple
lemonade.

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There we go, gentlemen.
How?

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How the holidays, man.
Oh man, beautiful man.

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Got my whole family here except
for my daughter who's over in

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over in Korea.
Wife's doing great, kids doing

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great.
Have my have my JMU kid here

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with me.
He talking trash you know.

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So it's all love man.
It just came from the gun range.

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Well, I'm telling you.
That.

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Sounds like Christy.
That sounds like my kind of

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Christmas moonshine and gun
ranges, Curtis.

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Was just asking us kind of how
we felt about everything, you

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know, money coming in, state of
the program, things like that.

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From a parent perspective as
well as a fan perspective, how

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you what are you thinking about?
Because feel brought up a good

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point.
He's like next year is going to

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be is going to be tough.
We got a lot of games that we

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got to travel to.
So James Franklin is going to

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get introduced to a rough
schedule.

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The money coming in is helping.
You know, the recruiting is

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helping.
But as far as where the program

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is, how you feeling about it?
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As a parent, I'm excited because
I came here to win.

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You know, so this being this
would be my third year in the

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program.
My kids had a, you know, y'all

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know, red shirt year and then
had a medical year this year.

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So I'm I'm just about winning
and I think that's huge for for

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him and I think that's huge for
the program.

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There's no other fan base in the
country that deserves the winner

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more than Virginia Tech.
You know, we're loyal, we're

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faithful.
We going to pack it out.

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So I'm excited about that.
As a parent, I realized that

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every year it's a one year, it's
a one year contract.

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Every year they sign it and you
know, they get another year to

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have the ability to play
football and finish education.

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So I think this is the best year
for any kid in our program

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because you're going to have the
eyes of the entire nation on

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you.
You know, last year when Bill

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Belichick went down ACC,
everybody was crazy about UNC.

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Everybody wanted to see him.
Everybody wanted to talk to him.

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Well, we get our version of that
just on a bigger level because

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he's won on the college level.
Bill had the, you know,

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nostalgia and the, and the
prestige and everything that

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came along with him went in NFL,
but he didn't do anything in

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college.
James Franklin was no matter how

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much as we follow on next, you
know, the Penn State crybabies

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over there talking about oh, he
sucked.

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He was just that in the third.
You know, we we tired of going

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six and six.
We would love to have multiple

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10 year season, 10 year win
seasons.

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We you know what I'm saying that
we burn the whole damn city down

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if we had ten win seasons again,
you know what I'm saying?

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So all this oh ho, you know,
he's he doesn't win the big

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games.
A lot of people lose the big

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games.
Amen.

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Truth be told, you know y'all
can flog me later, Frank.

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A lot of games we talk about
Danny Cole caught it right and

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all the other stuff.
We we lost some damn games.

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You know I I just had my taste
over with Miami a couple years

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back.
So you're going to have the

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entire country's eyes on you.
Everybody's been humbled and,

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and everybody, you know what I'm
saying, from Big Bang James to

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Brett Pryor, who I loved and I'm
glad he's back to the guys, to

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the guys who got fired and found
jobs elsewhere.

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Big shout out to a man, Elijah
Brooks, finding a job down at

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USF.
Shout out tomorrow.

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Yeah, shout out tomorrow.
Going out to Colorado.

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Everybody's been humble, man.
And so I think these kids are

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going to finally get some of the
things they've always wanted.

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Being coached extremely hard,
tough being able to have to go

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up against guys that are at
their level because we've been

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sprinkling these kind of guys,
very few sprinkles, but we've

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been sprinkling these kind of
guys that you just got in this

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20 in this 26 class.
We've been sprinkling them in.

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They're going to be able to
bring in that, that real top

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tier 3 star, top Tier 4 star.
Damn, there some five stars

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because in my opinion, we got a
couple five stars on this roster

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that, you know, 247 kind of
missed out on Jeffrey Overson.

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But you know, so I'm excited,
man.

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I'm excited, looking forward to
just like you guys are.

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Hey, man, you know that kid, you
know you know that guy, But you

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know, you know, I'm just ready
to get it started, man.

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I'm ready to start lying.
I'm ready for the portal.

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You know, I'm I'm I'm ready to
start lying, bro.

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You know, as as as you have me
on tape saying that we would be

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11 and one.
I'm I'm always lying.

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I'm never thinking we going to
lose until we until it happens.

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But I think the talent level is
about to be ratcheted up.

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Then it's just going to be to
the point of the intensity and

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them understanding that they are
they are trying to be the the

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new big deal.
They're trying to be you don't

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make the most noise in the ACC.
This year.

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We're trying to get back to
where we are, the team in the

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ACC to talk about right up there
with Miami, right up there with

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Clemson, right up there with any
of those teams in the ACC.

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And when we talk about that
like.

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I think the, the biggest thing
is that James Franklin has

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raised the profile of the
program right out the gate,

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whether we're talking about
national media and all this and

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we, we've said it for multiple
years, like the national media

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wants us to be fucking good.
They like it when we are good.

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It's good for their business
because they they like to be

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able to promote a not even an
underdog, but a team that's like

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flirting with greatness amongst
these other blue blood programs.

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They love to have that storyline
and they know that this program

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is capable of doing it.
We've shown that we can do it

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before.
We just have to have the right

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person at the top of that team
to get us right.

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And I feel like James Franklin
is doing a good job so far.

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Obviously the proof is in the
pudding until we see some games

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we just lying, we talking and
all that stuff, but at the same

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time we're seeing some facts
coming along with them.

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Lies.
Yeah, not just not just the

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right person at the top, the
right people at the top.

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What Phil was talking about
earlier when he's talking about

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Jay Pearson, like why we just
now hearing from him?

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People like that have been
wanting to be involved in the

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program and get out here and
make a difference.

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But it's hard to do that when
you don't have a script to

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follow, you know what I'm
saying, when you don't.

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And no disrespect to Brett
Pryor, he just didn't know.

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He didn't have the he didn't
have the balls to go do some of

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the stuff.
He didn't have the, you know

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what I'm saying?
He didn't have the body of work

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to do it.
James Franklin does.

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James Franklin got fired and was
on game day the next the next

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week, you know what I'm saying?
So and people was making fun of

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us saying, oh, Virginia Tech
thought he was going to come out

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and say he was, he was going to
Virginia Tech the next week.

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He ain't going there.
Like everybody in the media was

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making fun of it like it was a
joke, like we couldn't get him.

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We wasn't good enough.
We didn't have enough money and

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then he's there.
So I'm going to throw another

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question.
I got to throw this to Robbie

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because you know, we do got AD
line coach on the on the program

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right now.
With the with.

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The D line coach being hired
playoff coach, we know his

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pedigree.
What do you think about this

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high with Coach Chaos?
I honestly, I think it's going

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to be a good thing.
I I've always been AJC Price fan

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and just going to different
directions, going to add a whole

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new dimension.
So they've gotten so much out of

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coach Price in the last few
years.

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And I mean, I don't know the
whole situation of of how things

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are going to play out with that.
But I mean, he's going to add an

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expertise of guys that he's
already put in the league, top

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rush players and things like
that he's produced over the last

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several years.
I mean, it's just going to, it's

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going to draw people in there
because those kids are going to

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play for a coach like that that
has shown those has proven those

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things to put those kids in
places like that.

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So I mean, that's just going to
it's going to up the profile of

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that whole defensive line, which
I wasn't sure it could happen

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tremendously from where Coach
Price was building to anyway.

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But if you can manage to keep
Coach Price in the program in

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some way, shape or form and then
add Coach Chaos there to it, I

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mean, it's going to be one of
the strongest points on the

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defense and.
And with him, it's the proofs in

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the pudding.
Somebody on Twitter the other

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week tried to say this guy was
just terrible when we were here.

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This is a Penn Statement, by the
way.

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They might be the saltiest ass
fan base right now.

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I mean, without it's not even
close.

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It's not even close out.
Salty.

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But but but but they're sitting
here.

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But they're sitting there, but
they're sitting there trying to

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say he wasn't that good of a
coach when he was here.

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He's really not good at A&M.
It's like A&M is like second in

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the country in sacks and I go, I
get bored.

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They're they're first, Phil,
they're first in sacks.

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You're on mute, Phil.
You're on mute.

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I thought that's what I saw.
He said some bitch, he bowed

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some bitch in case y'all didn't
pick that up.

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Either way, that's.
A penalty.

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They are elite.
Elite.

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They are way higher than
Virginia Tech was this year.

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Yes.
In way higher last year.

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We were good last year.
Let's talk about this though.

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So like the big, the big thing
that I'm looking at with chaos

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is that if you look at his the
body of work from the output of

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his units on top of what he is
able to recruit.

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I don't know if it's that, if
there's a better combination

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defensive line coach in the
country of being able to recruit

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at that high level plus get
output on the field, he gets it

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out.
Absolutely.

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He gets it out of them.
That's the whole piece.

444
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,720
He he's got who up the talent
level that he has in that room.

445
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,720
He will.
Extract every.

446
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,440
Every single Oz And you see that
because worse he's ever had is

447
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,080
like 30th.
His first season at at Penn

448
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,040
State they were 30th.
That wasn't 14 coming off all

449
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,160
the shit.
They were 30th.

450
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,600
Right.
And then they were, they hit it

451
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,400
while he was there for what,
five years, Six years they were

452
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,840
like they leaded country twice.
They were top 10.

453
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,240
Two other times they were been
elite down at A&M.

454
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,040
So if you bring in talent, he's
going to get it out of them.

455
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,520
He's going to get them drafted.
I mean, it's the selling point,

456
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,680
right?
I mean, Robbie, you had a

457
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,640
four-star defensive lineman.
You played four years.

458
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,080
Ago.
And it's like.

459
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:45,920
I mean, if you, if you look
back, if you look back at his

460
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:51,040
record too, and it's he's not
just recruiting guys that do his

461
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,080
thing.
He takes guys that do things

462
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,080
well and he teaches them how to
enhance that.

463
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,840
It's not just a specific guy
that he brings off the edge and

464
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:07,080
does one thing like he develops
them wholly, whether it's an

465
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,160
outside edge rush, whether it's
an inside defensive player,

466
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,120
whether it's pass rush, whether
it's a run game.

467
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,760
He develops all of that from top
to bottom.

468
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,560
That's why these kids are going
to play on Sundays afterwards.

469
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,640
It's not just something that
he's putting on the field to

470
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,680
look good on a Saturday
afternoon and and pay his bills.

471
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:33,160
I mean, he's, he's making these
kids men on Sundays that are

472
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,320
better in their lives all the
way through.

473
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,400
And I mean, that's, that's hard
to beat.

474
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,240
He's a badass recruiter.
I mean, he's definitely building

475
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,280
recruiters.
I mean, that's what like all all

476
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,080
these guys are like recruiting
and hitting certain targets and

477
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,440
areas.
And it seems like it's like Aceo

478
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,920
making strategic decisions
around here, making on what we

479
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,120
got to do.
And hey, this has got to get

480
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,440
fixed.
But man, this is a mess.

481
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,440
Well, This is why we're going to
do it.

482
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,200
It's like, OK, let's do it.
I think the biggest thing that

483
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,200
he did is what he's saying by
expanding your base.

484
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,600
We as Virginia Tech, we've
looked for the most part in just

485
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,480
protecting Virginia.
We may get a few kids out of the

486
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,000
DMV, you know, maybe a few kids
here, he said.

487
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,680
We're going to be a national
brand.

488
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,800
So by getting by getting
Spencer, he can still go

489
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,840
touchdown those kids in Texas,
getting the running back coach.

490
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,720
He can get Georgia and Florida.
You already got your DMV in

491
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000
Virginia.
You've got with Coach Moore,

492
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,880
who's great at going in Ohio,
West Virginia in those areas.

493
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:35,040
And if you can go ahead and and
just be able to pull from all

494
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,720
those different areas, you're
going to build a collective of

495
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,440
kids that you're going to bring
in here that are going to be top

496
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,880
notch and be able to be iron
sharpens iron on a regular

497
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,360
basis.
That defensive line room is

498
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,360
going to be crazy.
I mean, as you saw this year, we

499
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:54,000
had guys with the will to do it.
We just didn't have the guys at

500
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,400
total.
You didn't have a bona fide pass

501
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,360
for sure, as you had years
before with APR.

502
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,400
Ben Bell played his ass off.
He played as hard as he possibly

503
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,600
could, but there's only.
Sometimes.

504
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:04,920
Too hard.
Yeah.

505
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,200
Sometimes.
Too hard, yeah.

506
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,640
But but you want him to go as
hard as he can, man.

507
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,320
And that's what he did.
So you turn around now you're

508
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,800
going to be able to get
different kids that they touched

509
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,080
in Texas or touched it, A&M kids
at Penn State, they want to come

510
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,880
down and play.
And so now you're going, you're

511
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,280
going to be dominant.
And as much as we may want to

512
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,320
bang on Coach Pry, you know, the
one thing he can do, he can

513
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,680
coordinate the defense, man, he
when he coordinates the defense,

514
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:34,480
they are, they are elite.
And so you get his get his

515
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,720
homeboy back with the D line.
God willing, we may be getting,

516
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,200
you know, a secondary coach here
in the next couple weeks or so.

517
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,800
But the talented kids that we
have now are guys that we

518
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,360
haven't had before.
We haven't had like that before.

519
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,600
You've got guys that you could
turn around and cut loose.

520
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,680
You've got a JoJo Crim that's
going to be able to come back.

521
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,320
You got you got Josh Clark.
I always call him Jay Cinco

522
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,280
because that's family for me.
So Jay Cinco will be back.

523
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,440
You have Q Reddish, you have
Jordan, you'll have Jordan Bass,

524
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,080
who'll have another year in the
program playing safety.

525
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,320
Remember, he was a Pittsburgh
playing linebacker.

526
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,320
This was his first year playing,
you know, over the boundary

527
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,640
safety.
So it's going to be a new year

528
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,400
for him secondary.
It's going to be much improved.

529
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,520
Go go and get a couple more
running mates for for Coldplay,

530
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,280
because as as good as he was, we
could move him around.

531
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,600
He needed somebody else to help
him get it done on another one.

532
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,520
Yeah, it's got to be 1 of Gillum
was in there doing his thing.

533
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,880
But you got to have some guy,
other guys that come in and do

534
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,680
their thing.
So I'm excited about that.

535
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,880
Let's let's talk about the prop
thing.

536
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,880
Go ahead Robbie, finish it off
if.

537
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,440
He I was going to say, if he, if
you get an interior defensive

538
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,160
lineman like Copeland was
putting that last year, when you

539
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,360
put him on the field, people go,
OK, we're doubling that guy.

540
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,040
We'll figure out if somebody
can.

541
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,400
One man.
The other one.

542
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,280
Now when you can put two of them
out there or rotate a group of

543
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,280
them out there, you it's hard to
figure out who you're going to

544
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,720
double who you're going to take
away because the other one's

545
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,720
going to hurt you one-on-one.
Absolutely.

546
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,520
After, after that Cal game, the
whole world knew.

547
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,480
We all knew he was good.
There was, you know, echoes of

548
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,440
him being that.
But after that Cal game, Whole

549
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,080
World said OK, we're going to
double him.

550
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,280
Who else?
The year.

551
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,320
Can win one-on-one and.
That was the proof.

552
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,400
That was the proof the game he
had, he had shown flashes

553
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,760
leading up to the middle of the
season in the Cal game and a

554
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,280
give credit to JC of how he used
them because it was three tech,

555
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,680
5 tech and one of those he was
his big 290 LB butt was out at

556
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,040
the nine tech coming down, which
I I always wonder what an

557
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,120
offensive lineman thinks of that
because normally it's like

558
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:49,760
A265275 guy and it's a 290 LB
guy with a quick step that's

559
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,120
going to go.
Right in your chest.

560
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,600
Yeah, and right in your chest.
Strongest.

561
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,360
Strongest.
I don't.

562
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,160
Know what?
And Yep, and that's the thing.

563
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,160
Because.
Like we, we, we saw the flashes,

564
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,680
right?
So like we saw that, you know,

565
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,520
he had this big play ability as
an interior defensive lineman.

566
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,480
What we hadn't seen up until the
start of this year was how how

567
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,400
he looked consistently over the
course of an entire season.

568
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,520
We had seen the flashes and we
saw as he settled into that

569
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,680
position, he started dominating
the line of scrimmage and he was

570
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,440
dominating the line of scrimmage
that like Robbie alluded to and

571
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,880
like some of y'all alluded to
that didn't really have another

572
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:30,840
guy out there that was a target.
So it's it's easy to take away a

573
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,120
guy to a point on the interior
because the double teams are a

574
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,960
little bit easier to handle.
When you can move him around in

575
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,080
different positions and get get
guys on islands where you either

576
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,640
got to commit a running back to
chip on him or something like

577
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,040
that.
It gets a whole lot harder to

578
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,840
take that type of player away.
You give him a running mate and

579
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,840
you can still move him around in
different spots and you know,

580
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,160
shift before the snap and things
like that.

581
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,120
You can get really dangerous
with what with what you can do

582
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,640
at the at the defensive line.
You probably could have been

583
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,320
even more dominant last year.
If he doesn't tear his pack.

584
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,600
If he doesn't tear his pack with
him, Aeneas.

585
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,240
Might be, yeah, yeah, you're
right.

586
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,280
But it but it might be one of
those, but it might be.

587
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,840
For like.
Chaos coming in and Franklin

588
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,560
coming in.
It might be the blessing in

589
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:22,360
disguise because I think as good
as he is, I don't think he's

590
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,400
there.
He's not going to get on draft

591
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,720
boards above like 5 or 6.
He's just not.

592
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,480
They're going to probably say go
back one more season, finish

593
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,280
your time off, which benefits
us.

594
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,120
It probably benefits him because
of like what Robbie mentioned a

595
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,480
little while ago with, with with
Coach Chaos and how he can adapt

596
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,520
a guy like that.
So that's the big piece.

597
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,840
But I want to kick back because
we talked about Brett Pryde.

598
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,120
It's got to be discussed.
And yes, we have discussed it,

599
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,400
but again, we're at a bar, we're
having drinks.

600
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,360
Join us if you'd like.
Hey, there's some seats at the

601
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,840
bar, so if y'all hit the QR
code, there's a link in the

602
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,320
chat.
Y'all want to join us at this

603
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,200
bar?
Talk a little shit, feel free to

604
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,200
do that.
Hey, I want to add 2.

605
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,800
You got plenty of room here I.
Want to?

606
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,920
Do that like have we and, and
tell me I've had a few beers.

607
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,080
Have we had a time where we've
had a dominant or at least above

608
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:18,120
average defensive tackle and an
above average defensive end at

609
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:23,600
the same time?
Yeah, we had like in Powell,

610
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,640
like in our who else?
Who am I?

611
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,400
Who am I got?
A newest people.

612
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,960
We just didn't have nothing
around.

613
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,440
We didn't.
Have any linebackers right like?

614
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,760
Check this out, check this out,
check this out.

615
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,200
When you go look at the numbers
from last year, this year we

616
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,760
had, I think we had 19 sacks or
17 sacks.

617
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,240
You see the 1719, I have to go
look, that was the whole year.

618
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,800
Last year, APR had 16 sacks by
itself.

619
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,720
Like half of them are in like 3
games or two games.

620
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,000
Yeah, so, so The thing is, and,
and I've been waiting to throw

621
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,440
this out too, because so many
fans jump on this now.

622
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:09,120
I'm always about good coaching,
but I'm also about I want a

623
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,960
coach that can recruit.
Every coach has to be able to

624
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,360
recruit because I've got to look
at Miami.

625
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,040
They're the best in the ACC,
right?

626
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,199
Can we say that?
Right.

627
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:22,400
How do you win?
The fight.

628
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,520
Where's new king?
Where's new king?

629
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,760
Get new king in the phone chat.
Hear Tally say that.

630
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:35,440
Yeah, so Jay, so Jason Taylor is
their defensive line coach.

631
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,600
You know he was coaching before
Miami.

632
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,400
In high school, Indiana, he was
in high.

633
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,199
School, you know what I'm
saying?

634
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,199
But what it but what it But what
did he do before that?

635
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,679
Of course we everybody knows he
was a great NFL player.

636
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,320
It doesn't matter how great you
can coach if you got good

637
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,880
players.
I think last year everybody on

638
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:59,200
his defensive line was a all
American or all ACC player

639
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,880
across the line.
You can't double nobody this

640
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,880
year.
You go look at them and you get

641
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,760
deep in the games.
People don't understand how big

642
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,240
of a deal it was for Jeffrey
Overton to score a touchdown

643
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,120
against Miami.
Oh yeah.

644
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,040
Their defensive line is one of
the best defensive lines that

645
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:18,880
you ever going to see.
Like Ruben Bain is a monster.

646
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,000
What's the dude?
Mr. Door is a monster.

647
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,600
The other.
Everybody on the their lines

648
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,680
are.
Always next, dude.

649
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,720
They had Tyler Tyler Baron last
year.

650
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,600
So this is the thing that's
that's a NFL line that they

651
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,000
have.
It doesn't matter how good of a

652
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,280
coach you are, how bad of a
coach you are.

653
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,760
If you line those dudes up,
they're going to go eat.

654
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Now, if you do have a coach that
can go, if you do have a coach

655
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,960
that can go and get more out of
them and they can coach them up,

656
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,120
You know what I'm saying?
Because JC has been working

657
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,480
with, I say bubble gum and and
bow and arrows.

658
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,720
You know what I'm?
Saying come on man, come.

659
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,280
On Yeah, we got to get kids.
From, you know, whatever and and

660
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,960
no shit, no disrespect to them,
but like some of these kids

661
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,520
ain't NFL guys, but JDC got a
lot out of them.

662
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,640
If you can get a coach and you
got the money to go and pay a

663
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,480
kid and get them into the
program and say, hey man, we

664
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,240
just want to be a stepping stone
to get you to the NFL because

665
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,840
you know that's where he going.
Like Tyler Baron was like Ruben

666
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,160
Bane was like Mesador.
We got to get those players.

667
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,800
Once we get those players, like
you can get the coaches, but you

668
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,840
got to get the players.
This has got to be, it's got to

669
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,720
be a training ground is what you
got to say.

670
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,720
This is where it's got to be.
And it's like, so I've got a 2

671
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:43,360
sided question of that.
And so like one, do you think it

672
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,720
was an advantage for Jason
Taylor coming from a high school

673
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,320
setting, having to I'm not
saying high school kids are

674
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,240
dumb, but they're dumb.
Have them to dumb down sometimes

675
00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:57,280
on defense to simplify stuff to
be like, hey, like in ChatGPT,

676
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,960
explain it to me like I'm an
eighth grader.

677
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,880
Like do you think that helps
coaching Miami's ultra talented

678
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,440
dude, 1 and 2.
Is it harder to get like a five

679
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,240
star that's always dominated
people to like take that

680
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:14,760
coaching then versus A4, the
large three star.

681
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,520
So tell me, tell me I'm like
Robbie I.

682
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,640
Didn't want you to finish?
Go Rob.

683
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,400
Yeah, go, Rob.
Yeah, I was going to say, Robin,

684
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,000
let me say something.
Let me say something.

685
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,880
Then you can finish it up.
When I when I say I'm going to

686
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,400
say a dog wants to run with a
dog, it don't matter where you

687
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,280
being.
It don't matter how how you

688
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,520
being.
Like when somebody looks at

689
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,680
Jason Taylor, first of all,
that's a big motherfucker.

690
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,240
Like that's an NFL player.
Him standing up with you and

691
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:44,160
talking to you, you're probably
going to give him a little

692
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,720
reference.
But from him knowing what he's

693
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:49,920
doing, like you got to have some
kind of background to show me

694
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,400
that you know what you're doing.
So when he's talking to those

695
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,400
guys, yeah, they want to go play
for him.

696
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,440
But also it's money.
It don't matter.

697
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,240
But it's not just him.
Miami has been able to go out

698
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:04,560
and get the best players because
they were willing to spend

699
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,680
money.
Go look at Cam Ward.

700
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,520
It didn't matter where Cam Ward
went.

701
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,360
He probably was going to elevate
the team that he played on.

702
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,920
Who is The Who is the officer
coordinator at Miami?

703
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,400
Do anybody know without Scan
Dawson?

704
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,040
I do It don't fucking matter.
It don't matter but.

705
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,880
It don't.
Matter.

706
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,000
It don't matter Carson and
people talk shit about Carson

707
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,560
Bent.
Carson Bent is a national

708
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,680
championship quarterback.
Like you had Campbell then and

709
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,080
Carson Bent, right?
Come on, man.

710
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,360
Robbie, let's go back to what
the question he asked about you

711
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,720
as a line coach.
Go ahead.

712
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,440
Yeah, it's it's one thing there
with defensive line coaches too.

713
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,680
But like I've been in coaching
for 20 plus years now.

714
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,840
I've been to these coaches
clinics, I'm going to 1 here in

715
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:56,120
a couple weeks and Charlotte,
the big AFCA convention, you

716
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,640
will see guys that have gotten
into coaching because of who

717
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,800
they know and they'll bounce
from team to team and team to

718
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,400
team because of who they know.
And they can't teach their way

719
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,960
out of a wet paper bag with a
flashlight in the pocket knife,

720
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,080
right?
But when you can take a guy like

721
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:16,600
Jason Taylor, who's from from a
high school who can take if he

722
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,960
couldn't recruit is that he was
handed, it might not be.

723
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,280
They can make players out of
them when you get to that next

724
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,640
level when they have that
ability, or you can teach them

725
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,440
the little things to use that
ability.

726
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,560
I've been tricking people for
years thinking I was a good

727
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,480
coach because I've had
spectacular athletes.

728
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,240
Live.
Now you're live, just being

729
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:38,880
recorded.
Cut.

730
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,200
Back, but I'm a bounce on what
he says.

731
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:51,680
I think if you turn around, it's
hard for a lot of elite players

732
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,400
like you.
We've always seen like let's

733
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,600
just say basketball.
Magic Johnson could never turn

734
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,520
around and be a really good
coach, right?

735
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,400
You always saw that like Michael
Jordan said, I could never coach

736
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,560
right because they just said
things extremely well.

737
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,720
Jason Taylor walks into the
room, right?

738
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,760
Like Charlie said, he's a huge
dude, but he walks in there with

739
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,840
the pedigree of what he did in
in the college, what he did in

740
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,760
the pros.
To turn around and be a Hall of

741
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,880
Famer and then he just gets
excellent talent, you know,

742
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,680
extremely talented players.
And he's just teaching him what

743
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:24,320
what he knows.
And then everything else he's

744
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,080
learned from all the different
places he's gone.

745
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,000
Those kids are going to be like,
hey, that's Jason Taylor.

746
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,000
You know, we can release YouTube
and seeing what he's done.

747
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:35,000
But the thing that Crystal Ball
has done, he made it his number

748
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,320
one point to make sure the
trenches were stacked and

749
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,360
loaded.
He knew he could he could go get

750
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,560
skill.
This is one thing I realized.

751
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,080
There are a ton of skill players
because it's pretty.

752
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,280
Everybody want to be outside,
everybody want to had a ball,

753
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,200
everybody want to Juke somebody
in space.

754
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,480
But the guys on the inside,
that's where the money's made.

755
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,960
That's where the magic happens.
And that's what we've been

756
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,440
missing here for the last three
years up until Matt Moore walks

757
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,480
into the building and then you
turn around and get this hall

758
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,240
that you get with James Franklin
understanding building the

759
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:12,760
trenches is the deal.
This isn't going to be a a much

760
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,280
better football team.
I know we we we still haven't

761
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,840
talked touched on Brent pride.
Let's talk about.

762
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,800
Don't worry about it, but.
We got that on the, on the, on

763
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,400
the.
Menu I don't we can talk about

764
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,400
Brent.
Like Brent pride conversation

765
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,880
will last from now until the end
of his career.

766
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,720
Like it won't last forever.
And I saw the note out there.

767
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:35,440
Shout out to Kellen Gillum.
Kellen Gillum Junior without

768
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,200
question because he was like the
backbone of this thing.

769
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,840
That dude walked in as a man, as
a general, saw how things were

770
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,200
going, would not let the ship go
totally off off.

771
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,720
You know, he would not let it be
mutiny in that thing and let

772
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:52,480
that thing go off the rails.
So mad shout out to him.

773
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:56,600
He will forever be a great hokey
no matter what the record says.

774
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,560
He will forever be able to walk
in.

775
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,080
We don't walk in the Lane
Stadium and get much love for

776
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,240
everything that he did.
I love that kid.

777
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,560
Great, great dude, great let
that guy but.

778
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,200
I feel like he started the
comeback to Virginia thing.

779
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,840
Like it's OK to portal back and
get used and people will

780
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,640
appreciate you.
Oh yeah, come back.

781
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,360
Come back.
I want you back.

782
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,880
It's like, oh, you're going this
place, but we'll see you in two

783
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,800
years.
Like, see.

784
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,720
Yeah.
I think, I think he went out,

785
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,040
saw what it was, but he knew he
could be great at home.

786
00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:30,240
That was that was a big thing
for us about being great at

787
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:31,720
home.
And I think he saw that as well.

788
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,520
And he's been a great ambassador
for the program and and for

789
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,360
everything good Virginia kid
love that kid.

790
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,760
But going back to what say
having continuity in the in the

791
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,320
office of line room haven't Matt
Moore come back?

792
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,480
It would have been great.
I think it's what this Dale, the

793
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,720
guy who went down, it was Penn
State online coach that went

794
00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:56,320
down to Florida.
Yeah, it'd been great to get him

795
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,440
because the guy has repeatedly
put guys in the pros.

796
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,560
And I'm talking about not just
in the pros, I'm talking about

797
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,800
top 15, top 30 guys in the pros.
But to have continuity in their

798
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,440
room with Matt Moore and his
teaching and his philosophy, I

799
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,920
think that's going to be an
extreme boost to those guys you

800
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,880
right now have going into the
season.

801
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,120
I think you had maybe 7 guys who
could play 7.

802
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,760
Like 9 played though.
Say what am I right?

803
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,360
I said like 9 played though.
That was the issue. 7 guys could

804
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,800
play, but nine played.
You had to have 9, but we only

805
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,080
have seven.
Hey, Chris, let me say.

806
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:35,880
Something real quick.
About.

807
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,520
We'll say something real quick
about Matt Moore and I'm.

808
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,000
Of the guys retained, there were
two.

809
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:43,200
Some other guys would be
entertained elsewhere.

810
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:48,800
But for the way he coaches, you
knew what we were going to be

811
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,640
every single week, right?
They're going to run the ball.

812
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,080
They're going to run the shit
out of the ball.

813
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:55,720
That's what they're going to do.
Because that's all they really

814
00:43:55,720 --> 00:44:00,280
can do, right?
To be to know that's coming and

815
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,200
to still have a guy that put a
team top rushing.

816
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,520
I think I want to say 30, I'll,
I'll pull it up here.

817
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,440
I've got it saved.
But to basically have a top

818
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,520
thirty Russian offense when you
know it's coming and it's not

819
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,680
triple option and it's not
trickery.

820
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,320
It's like we're going to run the
ball at you.

821
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:23,240
And especially when you got some
younger guys playing and then

822
00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:26,040
you have to bring 2 guys in that
probably should not have been

823
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,840
playing.
But things happen and things

824
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,200
people got to play.
It's why you need depth.

825
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,920
But to say you could run the
ball like that and basically

826
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,600
people knew, well, Angle really
didn't pass the ball that much,

827
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,560
we stopped the run will be OK,
Still be able to establish the

828
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,320
run and have that sort of
output, It shows you how good of

829
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,080
a coach he is.
And everybody's like, well, the

830
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,480
pass blocking stuff.
Listen, Brian and Robbie both

831
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,400
played online.
It ain't like turning the cap on

832
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,360
all you can just go out there
and pass block any day of the

833
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,120
week the hell you can.
I mean you, I mean you.

834
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:06,200
I mean, here's the problem.
I think they had 10.

835
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,880
I think of the what, 13 of the
12 games they played.

836
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,280
I think they had 10 different,
10 different line UPS.

837
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,160
I think that's the number of
something, right?

838
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Right around that, that's.
Pretty cool.

839
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,880
What's the problem with that?
Whatever.

840
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,080
I mean.
That's just how you drew it up,

841
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,960
Chris.
Science.

842
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,520
Believer that to me, this is me.
OK?

843
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,320
I felt like those guys gave
extreme.

844
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,320
They gave everything they had
this year.

845
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,440
They gave every bit of every
everything they had.

846
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,080
Miami game alone, the Miami game
alone and how much we ran on the

847
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,920
on them.
Like, like Callie said, like we

848
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,600
crushed Miami on that game,
running the ball if we could

849
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,280
throw the damn ball.
Listen, Aiden Lynch will be able

850
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,680
to go down one day and tell his
grandkids, Hey, I, I blocked

851
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,640
against Ruben Bane.
You know what I'm saying, man?

852
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,440
And, and you know, he whipped my
ass, but I held my own as much

853
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,240
as I could.
You know, I, I just think that

854
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,120
you turn around, you take those
kids from being thrown into the

855
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,600
fire the way they were.
Some of the kids that we're

856
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,120
definitely probably going to
bring in the portal and those

857
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,360
eight guys that we got cooking
in the background, that's going

858
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,960
to be there.
You're going to have what you

859
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,160
didn't have last year.
There were times that they

860
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,320
couldn't practice, they couldn't
have full live practices because

861
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,040
they didn't have no bodies, man.
That that's we are now

862
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,840
officially, I've always felt
we've been a, you know, a

863
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,640
powerful program, but we're
really official powerful

864
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,560
program, man.
Trying to do some big things,

865
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,800
man.
So I'm, I'm excited about what

866
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,360
Matt Moore and them are going to
bring this year in the offensive

867
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,800
line room.
I think those guys are going to

868
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,560
be better forward.
They're going to be better

869
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:45,040
tested. 194 against Miami over
5A carry against that D line.

870
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,080
But like, if you look at
Miami's, the, the, the rushing

871
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,840
yards, they've given up all
year, nobody's done anything

872
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,560
like that.
Nobody knew anything close to

873
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,240
it.
Nobody.

874
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,680
Not even close.
I mean, hey, I just wasn't

875
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,560
Hannibal the damn Hannibal in
the house.

876
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,840
What's up, baby?
There you go.

877
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,520
There you go.
The crib is the crib.

878
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,560
The crib is the crib.
The crib is the.

879
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,000
Crib.
How we living, we good man, we

880
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,000
over here, we drinking.
If I had the deck set outside,

881
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,920
we'd be smoking.
But.

882
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,800
You know you got that that that
Sure.

883
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,600
MV7 Plus plugged in Dan.
Nah, man, it's going to take

884
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:26,400
some set up.
Dan Santa Claus is good to Dan

885
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,360
on the podcasting front.
It'd have been 1045 before I got

886
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,440
on here if I got home and tried
to set that thing up.

887
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:37,120
What's up brother, What you been
doing tonight?

888
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,120
Man, there's many streets, man,
Just out here outside doing my

889
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:47,280
thing, chilling.
Hey now you, you having some

890
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,120
drinks with us?
What you?

891
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,480
What you drinking on?
I'm drinking some water.

892
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,320
I'm.
Drinking water, staying

893
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,480
hydrated.
What the hell?

894
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,280
That's smart.
Hey, what the fuck is this?

895
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,160
What did you address?
Something right quick.

896
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:02,760
Yeah, dress something right
quick.

897
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,000
What are we addressing?
Oh God.

898
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:09,520
Steve, Steve, Stephen Colbert or
whoever, 296 What?

899
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,120
His comment up.
Yeah, I like that one.

900
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,040
The one before that.
The one before that.

901
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:20,840
Yeah, yeah, fuck that guy.
What happened?

902
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,240
I hope that he goes and coaches
at the worst.

903
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:32,640
Middle school and his team never
wins the game.

904
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,520
Coach Montgomery coach like a
different now again.

905
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,160
I bet it was tough, you know
what I'm saying?

906
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,840
You have people leaving, you
have people leaving the team,

907
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:48,000
you know, getting in transfer
portal, coach gets fired, but

908
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,920
you accept the role of being the
interim coach.

909
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,040
Your job is to go and coach and
you're supposed to be coaching

910
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,040
to get somewhere else for the
energy that he put on the field

911
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:01,240
in the games that he won to the
energy he put on the field in

912
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:04,120
that UVA game.
He can go somewhere.

913
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:05,680
And I never got to see him coach
again.

914
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,440
I mean, we didn't have no half
back pass.

915
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,040
We didn't do nothing.
You didn't you never pulled the

916
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,840
quarterback.
Like what do you have to lose?

917
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,800
The team is better than you and
you got beat 20 to 27 to 727.

918
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,640
Come on, man.
We we didn't do nothing.

919
00:49:22,720 --> 00:49:24,320
We didn't even try to win the
game.

920
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,600
And it was more games than that.
But definitely I just feel like

921
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,600
it this just could be me and my
feelings.

922
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,400
When James Franklin got
announced as the coach, I think

923
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,520
he got to his feelings.
He wasn't considered for nothing

924
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,680
and he coached different.
We didn't even, we didn't make

925
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,320
no changes.
We didn't do nothing.

926
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,800
But the UVA game pissed me off
more than anything.

927
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,000
I'm cool with you losing games.
It's a losing season, whatever.

928
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,440
You know it is what it is.
But that UVA game for you not to

929
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,480
change anything up, not to go to
a different quarterback, not to

930
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,440
give me any different plays.
Well, we couldn't do any place.

931
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,080
Yeah, you can.
You could have fucking hiked the

932
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,800
ball over your head and did a
annexation of Puerto Rico.

933
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,880
You was going to lose anyway.
Do something fucking different.

934
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,520
I'm just saying.
So no, we are not giving.

935
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,640
We are not giving.
Shout outs to Cole Montgomery on

936
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,040
here pitch.
To Johnny.

937
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:22,000
You can't pitch to Johnny, bro.
If you, if you and.

938
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:26,320
You know what?
I'm a stern believer, if you

939
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,360
accept the check, do the job.
If you ain't going.

940
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,040
Because there was a check.
Don't do the job.

941
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,600
Yeah, maybe he knew he wasn't
auditioning anymore.

942
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,440
He knew he'd failed that
audition and his won't be the

943
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,040
key grip.
Exactly what it.

944
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,960
Was.
Yeah, but the.

945
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,920
Thing is like with that game
though, you're right, it's like,

946
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,680
what can you do?
Well, go, OK, all you're going

947
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,480
to do is get to four wins, go
screw their season up, do some

948
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,720
wild things, change quarterback
so.

949
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,880
OK, quarterback.
So that's what y'all was.

950
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,320
Doing above all else, y'all just
wanted to try to screw your VA

951
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,200
season up.
That's all you and just try to.

952
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,440
Make a difference, right?
So just just be a headache, be a

953
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,120
pain in the ass.
Don't don't just don't just go

954
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,920
out there and do the same thing
you did the last three weeks and

955
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,720
call it a day.
Go out there and try to ruin

956
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,120
their season.
If you got it in your bag of

957
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:16,960
tricks, I need to see it on the
field.

958
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,160
That's what that game should
have been about.

959
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,240
There was no reason to leave
anything in the bag.

960
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,920
There was absolutely no reason
to leave anything in the bag in

961
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,640
that game because you didn't
have nothing to play for except

962
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,560
to screw up what they had going.
And we just went out there.

963
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,040
We did what we.
Did I was 4 for 16?

964
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,880
I don't think we, I don't think
we brought another quarterback

965
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,000
with us, right.
We just had.

966
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,320
Him no, no, no.
We, we had, we had, we had, we

967
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,400
had a couple of quarterbacks.
There weren't.

968
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,800
Oh yeah, there there were.
That that was.

969
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,040
Go ahead, Chris.
I feel like you're about to say

970
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,800
something.
I think I think this is so

971
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,880
awesome.
Go ahead, Chris.

972
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,920
This is Tate, I have a vested
interest in this.

973
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:05,120
Program.
And and, and, and I got one on

974
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,360
tape that that I'm probably
like, I had to eat crow about.

975
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:18,320
All I'm saying is this.
We can all speculate from what

976
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,440
we saw that he may have gotten
in his feelings, but you got to

977
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,680
think about it.
There was some things that he

978
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,440
got dealt to him that he that he
had no idea that he was going to

979
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,920
get dealt.
So I'm always going to have love

980
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,840
for Monty because for me
personally, this is just me

981
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:41,280
personally.
He didn't have all the weapons

982
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,000
that he needed to make this
thing go.

983
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:50,280
And there were things above him
that he could not move to even

984
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:55,680
get people in place to be able
to run to run his system, run

985
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:57,880
his system.
So you got to look at it.

986
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,440
He turned right.
He wasn't going to get get the

987
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,360
we love Karen.
And we were just to the point of

988
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,880
he wasn't able.
We were saying the online did

989
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,600
have his efficiency and pass
protection.

990
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,680
And that's that's a different
thing that you got to end up

991
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,600
having.
If you can't pass protect, it's

992
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,240
hard for a guy to get the
passing game off.

993
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:17,000
So.
He adjusted his offense to the

994
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:20,400
best that he could do and I know
Tally just wanted him to go out

995
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,000
there and do some damn little
giant shit so we could try to

996
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,880
just be be a thorn in UVA sides,
but it all worked out in the

997
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,960
end.
It all worked out in the end.

998
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:38,120
UVAUVA got a big egg on it and
get big stupid face plant for

999
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,160
for losing the Duke.
Everybody get a chance to go

1000
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,760
get.
Everybody watched it.

1001
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,120
Everybody.
Watched it to the end.

1002
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,120
We thought Duke was trying to
give it away.

1003
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,000
They didn't.
And guess what?

1004
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,200
Man, it all worked out.
This cross we got James

1005
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,000
Franklin, they all know we're
about to have all the recruits

1006
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:58,680
in Virginia back.
So salute.

1007
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,640
We're not going.
We're not going to hate Monty

1008
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,680
forever.
AC just always delivered.

1009
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,440
The only thing I will say is
that, you know, like, don't.

1010
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,920
Coach A Kick a tan High school.
This is a guy he already killed

1011
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,320
Monty.
At this point, Monty had already

1012
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,920
taken the six shots, right?
He had already taken the six

1013
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,160
shots.
If I'm going out, I'm not going

1014
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,800
out with any bullets left in my
clip.

1015
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:22,840
That's all I'm saying.
I just don't think he cared not

1016
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,920
I don't think he cared about the
the rivalry.

1017
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,320
Like I don't think he gave a
shot.

1018
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,320
I don't think he.
Did not get it some of the

1019
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,120
playoffs.
The rivalry and that Miami game

1020
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,080
the week before was like that
was we were all in on that, like

1021
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,360
everybody.
We were all in, all in.

1022
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,360
And then UVA, there's a let down
and they and UPA is good this

1023
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,440
year.
Better than us, not going better

1024
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,960
than us.
That sucks to say, but they're

1025
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,640
better than us.
Fuck, but Mike London won their

1026
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:49,800
coach.
They didn't fuck it up.

1027
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,360
If Mike.
Had been the coach this year,

1028
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,160
they would have.
Screwed it up.

1029
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,800
Tony Ellen looked real funny
coming into that locker room.

1030
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,480
He didn't even look like a
national.

1031
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,480
For him to hold the Commonwealth
Cup.

1032
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,760
We'll get that back that.
You don't worry about he's like,

1033
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,040
all right here.
What am I supposed to do with my

1034
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:08,480
hands?
What do I do with my hands?

1035
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,760
How do I hold?
I don't know.

1036
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,080
Don't worry, you ain't holding
another trophy after that

1037
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,440
player.
No doubt, I guess.

1038
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,240
I guess my thing, The thing is
with Monty, like, yeah, he got a

1039
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,400
hand dealt to him that he wasn't
expecting.

1040
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,120
But at the same time, like, you
took the offensive coordinator

1041
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,800
job as a former head coach at a
school with a hot seat coach.

1042
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,520
So you knew there was a chance
you might be running this thing

1043
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,240
at some point.
Now, it happened sooner than he

1044
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,400
probably thought.
But by the time we got to the

1045
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,840
UVA game, and I work in food and
beverage, I have several staff

1046
00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:44,640
members under me.
I am the boss, but I tell them

1047
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,560
the number one rule in food
services.

1048
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,600
If you don't give a fuck, act
like you give a fuck.

1049
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,320
You can't let them know you
don't care.

1050
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:54,640
And that last game against UVA.
It looked like.

1051
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,120
Shit, I'm about to be out of
here.

1052
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,400
Like it.
Just, you know what I'm saying?

1053
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,640
Like you.
Did can't cool it all three, 123

1054
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:01,480
can't.
Cool.

1055
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,280
I mean they filled up 3/4 of
that stadium.

1056
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:09,920
Good for them.
Ten win Team 3, Forceful 3.

1057
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,520
Forceful.
Look at the way the damn ACC

1058
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,080
championship game.
That's pitiful shit.

1059
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,800
The ACC needs to learn from all
these other conferences.

1060
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,920
You feed your big horses.
And now when I stay by that,

1061
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,160
hey, they're about to win this
game.

1062
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,600
No, they're not holding on the
offense.

1063
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,080
They ain't winning this fucking
game.

1064
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,920
They not win this game.
I feel like the ATC should go to

1065
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,440
campus tights.
We're associated.

1066
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,160
Happened to us.
Last year, I guess.

1067
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,480
Yeah, we apparently we do not
have plot armor, Curtis.

1068
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,160
We do not have plot armor.
Yeah, they at.

1069
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,640
Least not yet.
Well when you fuck up and lose

1070
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,760
the Vanderbilt and Rutgers then
you don't get the benefit of the

1071
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,200
doubt.
Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.

1072
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,040
We lost twice.
Twice.

1073
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,880
Don't.
Forget Purdue, Vanderbilt was

1074
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:54,560
solid.
Man.

1075
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,000
I wanted Pavia in there.
Pavia.

1076
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:57,360
No.
No, that was 23.

1077
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,120
Purdue was 23.
I know we lost to them too.

1078
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,240
Like that's hard.
Purdue, Rutgers, Vanderbilt.

1079
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,160
Like shit, throw in I.
Don't know.

1080
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,360
Yeah, you don't get plot armor
when you're losing to Purdue and

1081
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:09,520
Rutgers.
I get that.

1082
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,720
Let's talk about how the Purdue
game was the fucking worst game

1083
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:16,040
that I've ever been a part of.
Well, who else was there?

1084
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,280
Me, Curtis and Tally was there.
Who else was there it?

1085
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:19,280
Was.
Because.

1086
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,000
I.
Remember I posted a picture of a

1087
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,880
dude in rain boots and said what
he thinks gonna be a monsoon or

1088
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:28,080
something because it was sunny
and said and then I had to

1089
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:31,760
retract my.
Statement they said you know

1090
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,560
what?
Delete that tweet and apologize.

1091
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,280
Definitely was a hard time it
was.

1092
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,320
That that bro looked at The
Weather Channel way before

1093
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,680
anybody else in Blacksburg
looked at The Weather Channel.

1094
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,040
Because I I thought there was
going to be some rain.

1095
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,560
I didn't think it was going to
be a damn monsoon come.

1096
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,960
In.
Hail standing in standing in

1097
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:55,120
South ends on getting hail
pelleted on us while we're

1098
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,040
trying to wait this thing out.
By the way though, I was

1099
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,240
thinking.
Of hey, hey, hey, but I can say

1100
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,600
this, me, Brian and Tally, he
has the best seats I've ever had

1101
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,400
in a game.
Oh yeah, we had some great seats

1102
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,840
at the end of.
That, yeah, y'all were down on.

1103
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,200
The 40 like.
Two yeah, we're down there with

1104
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,520
Darlax, man.
Yeah.

1105
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,560
Well, if that thing that it got
much worse though, I would have

1106
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:21,880
put one of y'all in the game.
I got I got 10 snaps left in me.

1107
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,840
I.
Was thinking I got three.

1108
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,360
I was.
Thinking about my two of my knee

1109
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:32,200
feeling I ain't got nothing.
I don't even know if.

1110
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,240
Kylie's got the size, they're
pulling out the stands.

1111
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,000
Man, shit, I don't know if I got
nothing left.

1112
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,920
Yeah.
When was the Mayo Bowl last

1113
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,000
year?
Was it a week from Like, it was

1114
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,720
like it was.
We're a week away from it,

1115
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,240
right?
It was.

1116
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,880
Like the 30th.
Yeah, the 30th.

1117
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,680
So we're sitting.
We're sitting in Charlotte,

1118
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,040
Kyron drones is coming back last
year.

1119
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,880
We're we're we're looking
forward to it at that point,

1120
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,080
right?
And little did we know, there's

1121
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,120
a rumor that Bo Buila was trying
to come to tech and we ended up

1122
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,000
going with Karen, allegedly.
This is the rumor that it's been

1123
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,520
around.
And now you think about it, if

1124
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,280
that would have happened, if
Karen would have left, we would

1125
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,000
have went with Beau.
We never would have got the

1126
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,240
money and we wouldn't have James
Franklin.

1127
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,600
So I think it's crazy how.
Shit, we we don't.

1128
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,520
We don't know though.
That's the whole.

1129
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,040
Thing we don't know.
What don't we know?

1130
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,440
What?
What we don't know if how we

1131
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,280
would have went this season
because I think in some of the

1132
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,520
cases it was Brent Bride's
mismanagement.

1133
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:37,120
Well, let's talk about this now.
I don't think as as bad as Kyron

1134
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,880
was in this offense, it wasn't a
good fit for him, right?

1135
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,280
I don't think very many
quarterbacks in the country

1136
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,520
would have done OK with this
offensive line, especially once

1137
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,840
the injuries happen pretty early
in the season.

1138
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,560
I agree that's the problem.
So you probably are still, you

1139
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,440
might be one or two wins better,
but you're probably, you're

1140
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:04,800
probably not a bowl team with
that offensive line, right?

1141
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:08,520
Do we fire our coach in
September and get the chance to

1142
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,000
end up with James Franklin?
And then probably not that that

1143
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,200
that's that I I'm with you on
that day and that probably you

1144
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,480
probably are not firing your
coach in September if and I hate

1145
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:19,760
things.
About Kyron Jones, because he's

1146
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,720
a really good kid and it pisses
me off that I got to critique

1147
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,080
that man negatively because I
love him and his family, but it

1148
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,720
was not good.
Dan, I stayed all the time on

1149
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,240
this program.
I wish Karen was an asshole

1150
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,040
because it would have been
really easy to to pull against

1151
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,280
him and go after him.
But we've talked to him a couple

1152
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,840
times and Kevin, they are.
They are.

1153
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,840
He is a genuinely good kid.
He's not an asshole, he's not a

1154
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,880
jerk.
He's a genuinely good kid.

1155
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,200
His family are genuinely good
people.

1156
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,160
That's what sucks is because you
got to go critique and you got

1157
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,240
to be again.
Same thing with pride.

1158
01:00:55,480 --> 01:01:01,720
Same thing with pride.
Oh no, no, it's true.

1159
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,600
It's the same thing with pride.
Hold.

1160
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,040
On it's the same thing with
pride.

1161
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,600
We've said it like Tally time
again.

1162
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,400
It's like, that man's nice as
hell.

1163
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,760
That man's great.
If you lead with a, he's such a

1164
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,720
nice guy, is the first thing you
say.

1165
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,040
That's not necessarily the best
thing that I want to.

1166
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,600
Ask one of y'all look like
Gregory Hines on the air, tap

1167
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,560
dancing around it because and
that's and that's what we've all

1168
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:30,160
done, because there is no
greater Brent Prop fan than me.

1169
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,240
And, and and and I love him with
my whole heart.

1170
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,880
But at the end of the day, I've
said it to y'all, I'll say it

1171
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,080
out loud.
Loyalty got him fired.

1172
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,440
Loyalty got him fired.
You got us to where we are in

1173
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:49,920
general in the athletic
department.

1174
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:51,480
The whole thing.
Come on.

1175
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,600
The whole thing.
Breach preacher.

1176
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,280
The whole preacher?
No.

1177
01:01:56,720 --> 01:02:00,080
I mean, how awkward do y'all
think it was?

1178
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,520
Go ahead.
No, we got so.

1179
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,680
Lucky, I think it was Brett
probably get fired.

1180
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,000
Brett probably got fired and
say, you know, guys, I'm out of

1181
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,880
here.
It was a it was a pleasure

1182
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,920
coaching you, you know, coaches,
you know, it's great working

1183
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,800
with you, blah blah, blah.
And then players, coaches,

1184
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,440
whoever do man, he wasn't worth
the fuck.

1185
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,960
He didn't do this, he didn't do
that.

1186
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,240
And then about three months
later that motherfucker come

1187
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:32,800
back through the dough.
How y'all, how awkward do y'all

1188
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:33,520
think that was?
Well.

1189
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,080
Hold on, hold on.
Hold on, hold on.

1190
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:41,600
I was.
Tearing him up, I was.

1191
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:46,080
Tearing him up, pull it in and
ready.

1192
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,760
One of our loyal listeners.
He has pulled up to the bar here

1193
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,520
first decked out in Philly, baby
decked out in Philly.

1194
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,280
We, we, we had the long
conversation.

1195
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,520
How does a Philly fan turn into
a hokey fan?

1196
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,920
He's like I, I was so and so
years old and I watched Michael

1197
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,280
Vick and that was it.
And that was it right there and

1198
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:06,840
ready.
Appreciate you popping on with

1199
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,000
the story.
Bruce Smith.

1200
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,760
Actually.
Bruce Smith.

1201
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,000
OK, OK.
Were you in the womb?

1202
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,000
You.
Mean Bruce.

1203
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,160
Real.
Oh, that old.

1204
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,920
Yeah, no.
No I just looking all.

1205
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,280
Right, that's AI from.
And Andretti is on the on the

1206
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,120
black don't crack path right
there for sure.

1207
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:30,000
Now I'm 45 man.
Are you still young, Andretti?

1208
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,680
Yeah, that's young.
That do the baby.

1209
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,000
All right, if.
Somebody was about to get into

1210
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:38,080
something here.
I'm sorry dude.

1211
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,280
I got no grain in this beard.
Yet I just got one thing to say

1212
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,600
to Tally, man.
Y'all let Tally get away this

1213
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,640
year.
Tally was all for these guys,

1214
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:52,640
man.
Quarterback 1 He was, yeah, for

1215
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:54,880
these guys, man.
I've.

1216
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,760
Seen it earlier on.
These guys ain't.

1217
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,720
I got it.
I mean, I got to, I got to go

1218
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,400
with it, Andre said.
This ain't it.

1219
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,280
Some of these coaches ain't it,
and some of these players ain't

1220
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,320
it.
And I was like, man, get off

1221
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:10,480
that ledge.
You're going to be all right.

1222
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,360
I was wrong.
I am.

1223
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,040
Now easy.
Easy to say I was.

1224
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:18,600
Wrong.
Marv is about to get there on

1225
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,600
fire from Colorado.
I don't, I don't think.

1226
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,800
I don't.
Think Andre.

1227
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,440
Andre.
Trust me.

1228
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,800
Nah, Marv's a little bit better
what y'all think he is?

1229
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:32,920
Dion does.
Not need Marv he get fired I

1230
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,920
don't.
Need to hear more about that.

1231
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,800
No, Marv, he's ready.
Go ahead.

1232
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,400
You give Marv the ability to
focus on just his linebackers

1233
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,480
and Marv's going to be a whole
lot better off.

1234
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:49,760
We would just talk about with
Pry and all of those things and

1235
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,840
I got to get up off here.
So I'm going to leave this with

1236
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,320
this.
When it comes to coaching and

1237
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:58,360
where I'm at, there's an
understanding that you can be a

1238
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,800
good coach and not be a good
head coach.

1239
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,320
You can be a good coach and not
be a good coordinator.

1240
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,800
And I think Pry understands that
very well.

1241
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,680
He's a good coach.
He's a good coordinator.

1242
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,200
He was not a good head coach.
And that's what's going to make

1243
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,640
it easier for him to step back
in there because he understands

1244
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,840
when those people are talking
about he wasn't a good head

1245
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,000
coach.
He knows it.

1246
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,840
He's been.
He's his dad was a head coach,

1247
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,640
his dad's a football coach.
They know those things.

1248
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,200
You can take their criticism and
put it in however you need to

1249
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:36,040
and he understands those things.
Marv is going to be the same

1250
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,720
way.
He understood that he was in

1251
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,800
over his head jumping in as ADC
right then.

1252
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,840
He's going to go back, he's
going to build on the things

1253
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,520
that he didn't figure out before
and you're going to see him

1254
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,600
again somewhere.
It probably won't.

1255
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,640
Be in Roxburgh.
No, no, yeah.

1256
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:56,000
What I'm saying as ADC, as ADC
and things like that, he's going

1257
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,120
to build his way back up.
People are going to get it in

1258
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:00,080
there, I hope.
So that's a good dude right

1259
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:01,160
there.
Yeah.

1260
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,480
He's a really good guy.
We're just going to go with that

1261
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,520
leaving.
With a good guy like I don't.

1262
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,400
But.
I need an.

1263
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,280
Asshole.
Give me an asshole.

1264
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:12,960
I need to.
I need to hear the first thing

1265
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,280
about me.
He's a winner.

1266
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,520
I don't care if he's a good.
Person so many problems with our

1267
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,960
program all over the place that
like it's like I don't I.

1268
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,800
Don't.
Hey, the other side of that,

1269
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,320
though, is what's going on in
Michigan.

1270
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,760
So I mean, you know.
You mean the national

1271
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,960
championship two years ago?
No, I mean coach getting fired.

1272
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,680
I'll take a national
championship two years ago for

1273
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,680
all that bullshit.
Right now.

1274
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:47,560
Right now, yes.
I.

1275
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,480
Would.
You're not taking.

1276
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,680
Going in the womb, he don't
care.

1277
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,880
He's been going to games since
he was in the womb.

1278
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,680
I don't.
I look my my morals are

1279
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:12,320
compromised.
When they oh OK, this you honest

1280
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,320
about it but once?
We win that person Ezra

1281
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,200
championship, we're going to go
straight edge.

1282
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:22,480
We're going to be fine.
This how I look at it.

1283
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:27,240
Come September, if we four and
O, I'm going to see some dudes

1284
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,960
streaking through the quad and
I'm going to be like, I got bail

1285
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,520
money already set aside for
y'all.

1286
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,320
I go to work and put the bail
money aside.

1287
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:41,360
I'll send you my number because
y'all set the city on fire.

1288
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,120
Chris said nothing but Dicks and
titties on the drill field.

1289
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,240
Running out, baby, running out.
I'm just going to be sitting

1290
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,200
there screaming.
Hey, man.

1291
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,480
Hey, we by the way Phil, we have
went through that scandal once

1292
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:58,760
we had Galen Scott years ago.
Hey, I saw a I saw a

1293
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,200
prerequisites for the Michigan
higher and it was like the

1294
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,080
requirements don't be horny,
love football.

1295
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:08,000
Hey man, you can't.
You can't love football.

1296
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:09,640
You can't, you can't love
football.

1297
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,680
Not be Hornets.
Nobody, nobody.

1298
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,400
You better hold it in from.
The new.

1299
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,399
If we.
If we.

1300
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,160
I'm bricked up about football.
Let's go.

1301
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,439
If we go through 2 back-to-back
scandals and we win a national

1302
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:25,160
championship and then we land on
our feet with Kyle Whittingham,

1303
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:26,479
I'll take it.
That's true.

1304
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,000
Everybody's coming to my side.
The dark side.

1305
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,800
Let's go.
No, I mean, I'm desperate.

1306
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,439
That's how that's where I am as
a fan.

1307
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,760
I'm so desperate right now to
win.

1308
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:39,439
I want to win.
I want to win.

1309
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,200
I want to win.
I want to win too.

1310
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:46,680
Long scandals come with winning.
So you so you want to win bad

1311
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,120
enough.
You want to win bad enough that

1312
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,880
the coach of the coach will cut
itself with a butter knife.

1313
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,120
Oh damn, here we go.
Not win the National.

1314
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:58,200
Championship Eagles did not win
in that he was.

1315
01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:01,040
Up in there.
He was, he was up in.

1316
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,880
Something he was on.
He was on.

1317
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:05,640
Yeah, he was up.
He was up in something.

1318
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,760
He was up.
A lot of something he.

1319
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:11,960
Was up so, but nevertheless the
unless they do get a top ten

1320
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,600
class so.
His whole family is calling it

1321
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,399
for tickets and I don't have any
tickets I got.

1322
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:17,840
I got 4 Slims lines up.
I don't know.

1323
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,760
I got the gold package at the
strip club, that's what I can.

1324
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:28,960
I'm gonna let y'all guys rock
that. 1.

1325
01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,760
Maybe we can get tried more as
an analyst later.

1326
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,680
How mad?
Like I would have done the same

1327
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,840
thing if I did something as dumb
as he did.

1328
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,279
I've been like, not keep me in
jail.

1329
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,279
Don't help me out, I need 2.
Days that man said I'm about.

1330
01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:52,000
To I need a cool off period.
I want the I'll take the

1331
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,960
baloney.
I'll take the pineapple.

1332
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,240
I don't want to get out.
I don't.

1333
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,000
Want to get out?
Can you imagine going to facial

1334
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,400
wife?
That's why he didn't want to get

1335
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,320
out.
That's why he didn't want to.

1336
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,640
I don't want to get out and you
extradite me somewhere.

1337
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:09,240
Somewhere I I will not accept
bond.

1338
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:09,960
I'm not.
No.

1339
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,360
Nobody's posting bond.
You've been posted bond.

1340
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:12,800
Nope.
Nope.

1341
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,840
No, I've been posted bond.
No, I have not.

1342
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:17,560
Staying out here, a bunch of
guard like I'm staying.

1343
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,120
There that that is the deeper,
darker conversation that we will

1344
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,040
probably have on the chat line
later.

1345
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:27,720
Man, what about that?
Because I that is it's not good.

1346
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,120
I would never want I would never
want that to happen.

1347
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,920
That happened.
In Blacksburg, No, no, no, no.

1348
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,240
Sometime in that the.
Crazy.

1349
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,400
The crazy thing about the Sharon
Moore thing is if he would just

1350
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,280
have come out the next day,
didn't, didn't go sideways, and

1351
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:48,040
he just simply said, Yep, I
fucked up, I banged her, I did

1352
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,000
all this shit.
Yep, I'm a terrible person and

1353
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,800
just walked away.
Hey, first of all, the man made

1354
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,280
some money the last few years,
got a little money in the bank

1355
01:10:56,280 --> 01:11:00,040
account.
Two years, somebody hired him,

1356
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,720
somebody would hire him.
Because he was a good football.

1357
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:07,760
Coach.
You looking deep in his face

1358
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,520
what you think And he just came
out the next day and said I made

1359
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,360
a mistake.
I'm talking to Jesus.

1360
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,880
I'm talking to Jesus.
I'm never going to admit to

1361
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,200
anything I want.
You to admit.

1362
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,760
You got to admit.
To it wasn't me.

1363
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,480
It wasn't me.
If Bobby Petrino could come with

1364
01:11:27,480 --> 01:11:29,920
the neck brace at the press
conference.

1365
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:34,160
Bro, if Sharon just showed up in
a neck brace, it'll all been

1366
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,720
good.
I'm telling.

1367
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,120
You fine.
Listen, at the end of the day,

1368
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,240
it is one of the biggest
fumbles.

1369
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,680
And I don't.
Remember in, in, in history.

1370
01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,120
Oh yeah, in history.
That's that's the first thing

1371
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,520
one of it's the biggest.
I I said no, no, it's.

1372
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,080
It's been some.
It's been some others, but we're

1373
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:56,200
not.
The Baylor want to kill somebody

1374
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:57,920
or like how to cover a murder up
or.

1375
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:59,840
Something back back.
Brian Kelly did.

1376
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:05,600
You go back to it.
At the end of the day, had he

1377
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:10,000
got there, said I'm going to go
talk to Jesus and walked away

1378
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:14,240
for a little bit, he'd probably
be coaching somewhere down the

1379
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,320
road.
But that's not the problem we're

1380
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,400
dealing with.
Let's deal with the fact of the

1381
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,200
matter.
Yeah, that's.

1382
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,520
It was the fact that matter
that's it was the fact that

1383
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,600
matter that we've had the most
humblest coach we've we've had

1384
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:33,080
something that's unprecedented.
A guy get fired, get fired at

1385
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:36,880
the place he was at all right.
And then three months later,

1386
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:41,000
he's exonerated by being the
most outstanding guy to help us

1387
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:47,080
get probably the best coach
we've had since Frank Beamer.

1388
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,160
Let's just deal with what what
what Prague has to deal with in

1389
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:51,920
his situation.
Let's deal with that.

1390
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:54,720
Let's deal with that.
I like the fact that my head

1391
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,080
coach and my defensive
coordinator both have a giant

1392
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,920
chip on their shoulder to prove
they get the like.

1393
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,720
Prague is to come back and and
write his Virginia Tech ending

1394
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,600
the way he wants it to be.
Gets to continue to write that

1395
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:09,120
story.
And there's some people.

1396
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,960
Talking real sick about him so
I'm sure he got some points to.

1397
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,320
Prove.
Yeah, me, Franklin.

1398
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,720
I wouldn't.
Prove if and me.

1399
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:20,040
Can y'all can y'all imagine the
first time that defense gets

1400
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,560
scored on?
Well, I was said by Brett.

1401
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:26,160
Oh my goodness, Twitter going to
go crazy.

1402
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:31,000
Especially if it's the first
possession against VMI if we

1403
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:31,600
play.
VMI.

1404
01:13:33,480 --> 01:13:35,880
Yeah, yeah, we about to.
It's about to.

1405
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:38,480
I.
Agree 100%.

1406
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:42,080
Chip on your shoulder. 100% I
agree, chip on your shoulder.

1407
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:45,360
The best work I've ever done is
when somebody thinks I they I

1408
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:46,560
can't do it.
Yeah.

1409
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,640
It's 100%.
Like I, I will be like, you tell

1410
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,400
me I can't do it.
I will.

1411
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,400
OK, let's go.
Franklin set this up in the

1412
01:13:54,560 --> 01:14:01,800
press conference, though.
You've seen this coming when he

1413
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:07,480
when he, he said good things
about the program.

1414
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:12,480
Yeah, we don't get that, Man
without Pride said.

1415
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:14,160
Come here.
Yeah.

1416
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:19,360
Jay Pearson's done interviews
and he said, like, he called him

1417
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,240
and said, hey, Brent.
And he didn't call him back.

1418
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:23,960
He said for like a week or two
weeks.

1419
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,640
And he didn't call him back.
And he said, hey, if Franklin

1420
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:27,840
comes here, you're going to work
with him.

1421
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:29,920
And he's like, yeah, sure.
Well, let's go.

1422
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,040
I would not.
Yeah, like, of course like just

1423
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,040
you deal with the awkwardness at
first, so for.

1424
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,720
James Franklin, I don't know
another defensive coordinator.

1425
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,280
We could have got this better
for him.

1426
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,080
No, like being real.
Let's.

1427
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,480
Let's talk about another thing.
Too throw a lot of money.

1428
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:51,320
If you're going to throw a lot
of money at a defensive

1429
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:56,120
coordinator like Penn State did,
and he doesn't do it the way

1430
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,560
James Franklin wants it done,
guess what's going to happen.

1431
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,160
You're going to lose.
James Franklin seems like a guy

1432
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,640
that's got to have people that
he knows, that knows how he

1433
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,040
works and knows the type of guy
that he.

1434
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,360
Is it'll look different?
Yeah, it'll look different.

1435
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,920
He looks like a he's all he, he,
he has to have the trust.

1436
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,520
I think.
I mean, when we look at it too,

1437
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:17,000
man, when we look at the
experience, that pride reigns

1438
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:19,080
from a court and.
Brian, Brian, Brian.

1439
01:15:19,480 --> 01:15:21,320
Thank you.
Oh, you're welcome, man.

1440
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:22,800
You're welcome.
You know what?

1441
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,480
That's why I left.
That's why I left him man.

1442
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,680
But but on on prime, man, like
when we think about the

1443
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,280
defensive coordinators outside
of Bud Foster that Virginia Tech

1444
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:39,440
has had, has anybody else had
the caliber and cachet that

1445
01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:41,480
Brent Pride is bringing to the
table from a defensive

1446
01:15:41,480 --> 01:15:42,400
coordinator standpoint?
Nope.

1447
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,400
Not.
At all.

1448
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:49,560
So at at this point we're saying
that Brent Pride from a resume

1449
01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,720
standpoint is the second best
defensive coordinator Virginia

1450
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:56,760
Tech has had ever made.
Well, it wasn't just, but

1451
01:15:56,760 --> 01:16:00,960
certainly since Bud Foster.
Yeah, it wasn't Jay Ham.

1452
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,960
No, no, it wasn't Jay.
Ham Foster.

1453
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:10,480
Well done now.
But but the but the whole piece

1454
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:12,960
is with the pry hire.
It's like if James Franklin had

1455
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,480
taken any other job in, brought
Brit pry, people would have all

1456
01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:17,640
over themselves like Oh my God,
he's bringing it back.

1457
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:19,320
Greatest, greatest great.
That is a great.

1458
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,000
Point I think.
The other thing it says about

1459
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,960
Pry and we talk about good guy,
I truly think he actually

1460
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,800
fucking gives a shit about
Virginia Tech like he actually

1461
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,040
wants that's.
Undeniable, he's still.

1462
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,800
Denying it because he was there
when it took off 30 years ago,

1463
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,760
he was there.
He was there.

1464
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,400
He loves Virginia Tech.
He loves it.

1465
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,960
He loves the place.
Look how when they left and he

1466
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,720
left, there was a picture of a
box of shirts.

1467
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:44,400
When?
I love this.

1468
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:49,160
Yeah.
Well, remember, I just remember

1469
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:53,040
when when they said that pride
turned down Arkansas defensive

1470
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,880
coordinator in Mississippi State
defensive coordinator, I said

1471
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,120
that he's going to come be our
defensive coordinator because

1472
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,200
you thought I thought originally
he would be an analyst or

1473
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,160
something.
But when he turned the DC jobs

1474
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,880
down, I said yeah, he's.
Going to be a prat time Part 2.

1475
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,000
Let's go.
But the other thing is you want

1476
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,800
to talk about a reckoning story
or like rewriting your rewrite

1477
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,520
your own, you know, biography or
whatnot is what we're talking

1478
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,840
about about 365 days from now.
Because Phil, like your point,

1479
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,840
like we're going, oh, he's going
to get roasted on the socials

1480
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,760
when they have bad games.
Absolutely roasted.

1481
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,600
But if you're sitting here at
the end of 2026 and it's like,

1482
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,720
God damn, we won nine games.
The defense was top 20 in the

1483
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,160
country.
Higher.

1484
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,120
Higher.
I would I would love to know

1485
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,120
what people and it's so early to
know like what other teams are

1486
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,120
going to do.
But with our again, our schedule

1487
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:48,080
is brutal.
Next year, brutal.

1488
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,680
Otherwise.
Brutal.

1489
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:55,640
So travel wise, travel wise,
it's it's a, it's a upper half

1490
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:59,840
schedule talent wise, but it is
a awful schedule travel wise.

1491
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,400
Are we taking hold on?
Who do you all want off to know?

1492
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:06,480
Who do you all want off next
year, VMIODU or JMU?

1493
01:18:08,240 --> 01:18:10,000
Because one of them's.
Gone JMU.

1494
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:14,920
I want a showcase VMI game.
I want VMI out in the showcase

1495
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:16,000
game first game.
I don't.

1496
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,280
I don't want JMU off the
schedule because right now JMU

1497
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,400
is the best home game on the
schedule next year.

1498
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,600
They would draw depending, well,
depending on what it's on, I

1499
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:26,840
don't know.
But I'm saying like from a match

1500
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,560
up standpoint, everything else
that is right now the best home

1501
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:34,400
game that we have on our
schedule next year, that's a

1502
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,200
fucking problem.
You know, he's talking about

1503
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,760
from a John Ball standpoint.
No, no, no, I know what Brian

1504
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,320
said.
He's saying from an eyeball

1505
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:48,200
standpoint, JMUVT is like a
pinpoint game for people because

1506
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:52,120
they made the playoff.
Virginia Tech is basically been

1507
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,000
the best team in Virginia in the
last 30 years or so.

1508
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,440
I know what you're saying, it's
the eyeball thing.

1509
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:01,480
If we played JMU, Spencer, Coach
Chaos was the defensive color

1510
01:19:01,480 --> 01:19:03,400
writer from Florida.
He was a huge scapegoat

1511
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,480
apparently.
And that Gators team, they

1512
01:19:05,480 --> 01:19:08,200
blamed his ass for how bad their
defensive line was.

1513
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,800
So now he'd be playing against
his old coach and fired his ass

1514
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,880
like I.
Maybe.

1515
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,360
JMU cut VMI like that's that's
that's the world we live in now.

1516
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,840
The JMU is a better draw than
whoever else we got we.

1517
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,760
Give the flagship.
Go ahead, Dan.

1518
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:28,440
Go ahead and say it depends on
what the ACC schedules us for

1519
01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,440
SMU, right?
I think we're going to have a

1520
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:33,720
prime time Rd. game, first game
of the season.

1521
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:34,840
That's what I think.
Yeah.

1522
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,720
But but my point being like look
at have you looked at the home

1523
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:42,160
schedule next year now that
Brian hit a button?

1524
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:43,360
He gone.
It's bad.

1525
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,040
The home schedule is bad.
The home schedule right now.

1526
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,920
BMIODUJMU, Virginia.
Georgia Tech.

1527
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:54,600
Pitts, Stanford, BMI, Old
Dominion or JMU will get cut.

1528
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,960
Somebody check on Brian for me?
I don't think it'll be old to

1529
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,120
you because we already cancelled
the series, so I don't think

1530
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,960
they're going to.
It's going, it's going.

1531
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,360
JMU is going to be the one
that's going to get cut, but I'd

1532
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:09,520
rather play JMU.
I'm going to tell you why I want

1533
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,360
to be the flagship program in
the state.

1534
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,680
I want to stay claim on the
state so I want to go play JMUI,

1535
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:20,840
want to play JMU now, OK.
I want to smoke JMU now before

1536
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:25,520
they get the opportunity to get
strong OK again or get or be to

1537
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,720
the point.
I want to smoke Jmui, want to

1538
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:32,920
beat ODU and I want to be UVA
because that's the only way I

1539
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,960
say I'm the best program in the
state.

1540
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,160
But we're going to probably cut
the JMU game that's kind of

1541
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,560
that's been out in the in the
ether.

1542
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,680
Their AD has said that about it.
But I want to play JMU.

1543
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,880
I want to pay JMU more than
anybody else.

1544
01:20:48,440 --> 01:20:52,600
BMI is going to be, you know, a
65 to nothing game, You know,

1545
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,560
just getting guys tuned up.
I want to be ready because I got

1546
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:58,320
to turn around.
I got to go to Maryland.

1547
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,760
I've got to go ahead and play
ODUI want to be at my best man

1548
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,160
because the goal is the floor is
9 games.

1549
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,000
The floor is 9 regular season
games.

1550
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,200
That's the floor.
That's the floor.

1551
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:15,880
Hold on, hold on.
I'm I'm saying this from the

1552
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:21,320
point that I don't think this is
a barren program with no talent.

1553
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,720
If you're if you're.
Looking if you're I'm, I'm

1554
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:32,560
looking at 9 games, I can win 9
games, regular season games, I

1555
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,960
can go get a bowl.
I've already booked.

1556
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,360
Man, I booked rooms for
Charlotte every God damn year.

1557
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,280
Let's.
Go every year I book Charlotte.

1558
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,840
Let's go.
I book Charlotte every year.

1559
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:46,200
That's home for me.
You know I would love to go

1560
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:49,440
home, but I'm just saying I book
Charlotte every year so I'm

1561
01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:53,560
expecting midnight diner baby.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

1562
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:56,200
What happens at midnight?
Don't everybody don't get to

1563
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:57,640
know Dan.
Come on, you got to be in a.

1564
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,720
Circle to know that.
Yeah.

1565
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:02,720
But what I'm saying is when it
comes to the flagship thing and

1566
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:06,840
people talk about JMU, it's like
I always look at like if we want

1567
01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:09,200
to recruit or JNU wants to
recruit, who's getting that

1568
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:10,240
recruit?
Yeah, yeah.

1569
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,560
So there you go.
I don't care if we play.

1570
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,160
I know.
I know what Chris wants to do.

1571
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,560
I think he wants to squirrel
stomp them and just put them.

1572
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:20,480
Into a GM like.
Back in your place.

1573
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,400
I'm where you are you.
Are not here, you are here.

1574
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,480
Listen, I have, I have one of my
sons, you know, one of my

1575
01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:33,040
adopted sons plays the JMU, OK?
Our motto was always this, I

1576
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,680
want you to have a great game
except for when you checking the

1577
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:39,040
kid and as long as you don't get
the band played on you, I don't

1578
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:41,160
care.
That's our motto, OK?

1579
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:45,120
I give him hell all the time.
My whole point is I want to be

1580
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:49,960
JMU, I want to be Virginia, and
I want to be the ODU because we

1581
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,520
are the flagship program of the
state.

1582
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,760
That's it.
That's how it's got to be so.

1583
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,480
You know.
I think that's the one cut

1584
01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:57,960
though.
Well, they're going to cut it,

1585
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,440
but why that one?
If they're cutting it, is it a

1586
01:23:00,440 --> 01:23:01,920
financial cut?
Is it no.

1587
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,120
No, no, we got 13 games because.
No, no, no, no, I get that.

1588
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,200
But of all the games, why cut
cut?

1589
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,680
VMVMI said.
Come on, VMI's a joke.

1590
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,680
It's shut up the moments on the.
Board and So what what we're

1591
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,600
saying you.
Know where VMI is but playing

1592
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:16,720
VMI is a joke.
Fuck.

1593
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:21,920
Fuck their coach analyst on our
team mate.

1594
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:24,160
Let's let's talk about something
else though.

1595
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:25,800
No, no, no, no, no.
Look at this guy.

1596
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:26,760
Hold on, hold on.
Wait a SEC bro.

1597
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:30,680
Look at the schedule if that
happens, if that happens, then

1598
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,960
you are going to likely get it's
going to be a road game.

1599
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,320
No, I don't think they'll give
us road.

1600
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:37,720
They're going to give us a whole
game.

1601
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,520
That is you.
You don't like if I would love

1602
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:45,480
to get JMU at home and take SMU
on the road first game of the

1603
01:23:45,480 --> 01:23:47,880
season or whatever, you're going
to showcase James Franklin

1604
01:23:48,120 --> 01:23:50,360
against somebody other than VMI,
right?

1605
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,800
Like you're not going to put
James Franklin's first ever game

1606
01:23:54,080 --> 01:24:00,320
on ESPNACC network like X like
against Vemmy like that ain't go

1607
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,120
key.
That's go moments on the Mori.

1608
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,640
But fucking get get the key.
That's a home game in Lexington,

1609
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:13,200
so I can rent my place out.
I'll give you a discount.

1610
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,760
I'll give you a discount if you
come stay in my place.

1611
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,000
I'm just saying what's probably
going to end up happening.

1612
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:26,000
You're going to play VMI, but
yeah, get get that dub out the

1613
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:30,320
way and start off from there.
But I mean, let's, let's be

1614
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:32,560
honest, you turn around the end
of September, if you're 3 and

1615
01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,960
one or you're 4 and O
Blacksburg's on fire,

1616
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:40,400
Everybody's running around, tits
out, running, running the quad

1617
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:41,920
because we've been one way.
Yeah.

1618
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,520
I mean, it's going to be, it's
going to be crazy.

1619
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:52,960
Not me, I understand.
But I mean, you know, hey,

1620
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,520
shameless as it might be, hey,
go and get it out there.

1621
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:57,520
Get.
It.

1622
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,440
Out.
There, but that's what you're

1623
01:25:01,440 --> 01:25:03,800
looking for.
You're you're, you're trying.

1624
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,000
You're trying.
To get can they?

1625
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:07,280
Put that on a.
Couldn't they put that anywhere?

1626
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:08,600
I think that's what.
But what?

1627
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,400
Well, the whole thing also is
that, I mean, look at the home

1628
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,560
schedule right now.
So if if you if you kick JMU off

1629
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:19,840
the schedule, your best home
game the whole year is going to

1630
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:23,400
be Brent Keys picked apart staff
and roster.

1631
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,680
No no no pit Georgia.
It's going to be the best game.

1632
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,320
It's.
Going to be that's going.

1633
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:31,600
To be.
A Oh my God.

1634
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,600
It's always a game.
I mean, I think what you want.

1635
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,480
I want to fuck this burger.
Fucking man, I'm I'm never going

1636
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:40,720
to get.
Picked so 100 points.

1637
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,280
Also, James Franklin hates
Narduzzi.

1638
01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:48,200
So yeah, it's true.
It'd be fun to Dick shit

1639
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,760
Narduzzi for sure.
And the thing with James?

1640
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,400
You is Bob.
Hollywood Bob is going to take

1641
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,320
that roster or whoever he wants
to LA.

1642
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,440
He going back to Cali with big.
And you know what?

1643
01:26:00,440 --> 01:26:01,400
I'm.
Saying so like.

1644
01:26:02,120 --> 01:26:05,320
A Napier is probably going to
bring in something, but either

1645
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,480
way I don't know.
And ready what you got.

1646
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:11,520
Port on the day.
Anybody enrolled in early?

1647
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:15,720
For us.
Those guys get up here.

1648
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:18,640
A Lot of those guys are we have,
yeah, we had a lot of that said

1649
01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:21,480
they were enrolling early.
I'll give you, I'll give you,

1650
01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:25,040
I'll give you.
I know, I know two aren't aren't

1651
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,480
enrolling early.
I know one is enrolling early.

1652
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:36,120
I mean, but, but, but I mean, I
but even even what you talk

1653
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,880
about for us when you talk about
the other 26 kids.

1654
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,320
Yeah.
Listen, I'm, I'm going to be

1655
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:42,800
totally honest with you.
You ain't going.

1656
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:49,280
To see none of them.
You're not seeing those 26 kids.

1657
01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:51,360
The 26 kids aren't going to be
the factor.

1658
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,000
I'm going to be honest with you,
The factor It's going to be your

1659
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:57,600
portal kids.
You mean the running back?

1660
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,640
No, no, no, no.
Not with Overton and Hawkins.

1661
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,720
Hawkins might be a Ford, but
like he's.

1662
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,840
Not going to be somebody else,
but you want so many of them.

1663
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,920
Autumn Lineman.
He's still selling and he's

1664
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:13,560
getting these kids to come.
You're going to sit on your

1665
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,400
you're going to sit for a year
and he's still coming.

1666
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:17,800
There's going to be I'm just
pretty damn impressive.

1667
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:19,880
I would have a lot of respect
for that.

1668
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,040
I would have a ton of respect
for that.

1669
01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:24,120
If you can sign this class and
y'all like y'all are going to

1670
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,760
sit.
No, but it's not.

1671
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,760
So it's not so much that a kid
comes here and sit, says hey,

1672
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:32,040
I'm going to sit.
A kid comes here.

1673
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:36,760
I, I, I just got one, a kid
comes here and he realized it's

1674
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:40,480
the difference between playing
high school ball and playing,

1675
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,520
playing college ball.
The speed is the speed is

1676
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,080
different.
And if you don't get there in

1677
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,360
January, it's going to be hard
for a kid to be able to get out

1678
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,800
there and start like if
everything.

1679
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,240
Is a bad thing.
When I say sit I don't think

1680
01:27:53,240 --> 01:27:55,960
that's a bad thing.
Like red shirts I love that.

1681
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,880
But the kids mindset I assume is
now I'm the best.

1682
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:01,520
Like I'm not sitting.
Shit no and and they can want to

1683
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:05,040
be the best, but when they get
there on college and they

1684
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:09,680
realize classes getting up extra
early, I ain't there to wake

1685
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,280
your ass up to get you to go to
fucking what are you supposed

1686
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:12,720
to?
Get you?

1687
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,800
You got to be on time, the speed
of it and there's 3-4 other

1688
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:17,960
guys.
It's like fuck you.

1689
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,680
I don't excuse my French, but we
we together, we drink it.

1690
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:22,680
Fuck you.
I don't care about your stars.

1691
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,560
It's a different speed and they
got to accommodate to that, and

1692
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:29,400
they don't accommodate to that
till spring ball.

1693
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:31,840
They don't get it till spring
ball.

1694
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:33,960
OK.
And so once they get it in

1695
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,640
spring ball, then they start
realizing, oh, I can play The

1696
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:42,400
only place where you can see a
guy maybe playing early this

1697
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:46,600
year, Mickens can probably do
it.

1698
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:47,920
He's going to drop a little
weight.

1699
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,320
He's going to get leaner.
But man, what we fail to

1700
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,880
realize, man, is Jeffrey Overton
junior didn't have a whole

1701
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:56,160
offseason.
And we're at we're at an hour

1702
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:58,200
and 28 minutes into this
broadcast.

1703
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:03,240
Jeffrey Overton, junior did not
have an offseason and he still

1704
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,560
look like that.
Of all the.

1705
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:11,840
Kids that signed in that class,
I was more I wanted, I wanted

1706
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,520
Jeremiah Deloach, I wanted
Jeffrey Overton Junior.

1707
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:18,720
Those are my two guys.
I had to outside of my green run

1708
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,520
kids.
Those are the two kids that I

1709
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,520
wanted to have come and Jeffrey
Overton Junior.

1710
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,480
Stone Bridge, right?
Who Overton?

1711
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,480
Overton was at freedom then he
went to.

1712
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,840
He went to hate.
He went to hate hay field and

1713
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,040
they had they.
Had that had all that bullshit

1714
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:39,240
happened?
There you go.

1715
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:41,280
You said that I didn't as long
as you said.

1716
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,280
It there was a whole lot of
bullshit.

1717
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:44,320
Yeah, yeah.
But.

1718
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:47,160
He was.
The most he was he was the

1719
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,160
Gatorade player of the year and
he was the only guy that I

1720
01:29:50,160 --> 01:29:53,120
believe deserved to be the
Gatorade player of the year.

1721
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,880
Outside the kid that I fed for
the last 10 years of my life.

1722
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:02,040
He is everything in a bag of
chips I love Jeffrey Overton

1723
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:05,160
Junior.
He kept his red shirt too.

1724
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,320
FYI.
Everybody he kept.

1725
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,840
His red shirt.
Hey Let.

1726
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,360
Me tell you this, let me one one
name to keep an eye on that

1727
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:20,760
might have some impact in 2026
from the 2026 class out pretty

1728
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:21,680
soon.
Wiggins.

1729
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:23,880
I'm not even going to say
Wiggins.

1730
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:28,560
I think Wiggins could play, but
Tyson Harley to me, just because

1731
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:33,640
of being a situational pass
rusher, indeed, that and he's

1732
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,480
already got the body to, to, to
play at this level.

1733
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:40,240
Indeed, that's the guy to to, to
circle because guys that are

1734
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,600
just pass rushers can get them
to feel early, just like a

1735
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:44,440
cornerback and get them to feel
early, right.

1736
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,960
Same type of deal.
Tyson Harley.

1737
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,360
Circle the name, Yeah.
Beat this drum.

1738
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:51,360
Beat this drum.
The whole portal.

1739
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:52,280
Beat it.
Damn.

1740
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,840
I know.
Like we got a class coming

1741
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,960
that's going to be great and we
got kids staying.

1742
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,520
That's cool.
But if people, if talent wants

1743
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:02,800
to come, like Peyton Lewis, take
them, I don't care.

1744
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:06,080
Like if you good enough to beat
them out, beat them out.

1745
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,440
If you're not good enough to
play, then you can figure it

1746
01:31:08,440 --> 01:31:10,000
out.
It's a slippery slope though.

1747
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:11,800
That's.
A That's a crowded room.

1748
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:13,080
That's the problem.
It's a crowded room.

1749
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,080
What a crowded room.
I wouldn't have a problem with

1750
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:15,880
it.
Well, we got 3.

1751
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:19,040
Runs right now, but yeah, you
just can't get people to come

1752
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,960
because you got to pay them.
Like, bro, you got to be

1753
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:23,840
strategic with where you put
that money.

1754
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:27,520
When you get a kid that's been
in the SEC, even if they're not

1755
01:31:27,520 --> 01:31:29,560
playing, they're getting paid a
certain amount of money.

1756
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:33,040
Most Phillips got paid.
I ain't in his house, but he got

1757
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,200
paid a certain amount of money.
Missouri.

1758
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,720
He got paid a certain amount of
money to go to Missouri and sit

1759
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:40,520
on the bench.
All.

1760
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,800
And we couldn't use that amount
of money, you know what I'm

1761
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:45,000
saying?
We couldn't just prioritize the

1762
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:46,840
line.
Hey, hey, so I'm I'm going to

1763
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,240
say I'm going to say this name
to you, Dan me and you haven't

1764
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:53,320
talked offline on this.
See if you're going to bring in

1765
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,840
Peyton, Peyton Lewis, you're
forgetting the fact of the

1766
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,440
matter.
You got Cam Seldon on your

1767
01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:03,520
football team and Cam Seldon is
totally playing himself out of

1768
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:07,480
his position.
I'll say that out loud.

1769
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,560
Cam Selden is trying to become a
wide receiver.

1770
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,760
He's a four, three guy who can
fly.

1771
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:16,800
I I'm sorry man, if we.
Was running back in Tennessee,

1772
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,000
right?
Come on, come on, come on.

1773
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:24,680
So certain people get help.
Yeah.

1774
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,520
You know, if if you go back and
look at the numbers, Cam Selden

1775
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,640
was like second in receptions.
Curtis is Curtis is a stat guy

1776
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:36,600
because Sheldon ain't here.
Cam Selden is like second in

1777
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,640
receptions because they wanted
to get the ball in his hand and

1778
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:41,680
be able to get him to use that
43 speed.

1779
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:45,040
I'm telling you, there are some
things that are going to happen

1780
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,520
in this.
You got Mickens, you got you got

1781
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:52,760
Overton, we got Hawkins.
We going to have a couple other

1782
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:55,160
guys going to running backroom
that y'all ain't expecting.

1783
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:57,800
Well, how's this offense?
How's the offense going to be

1784
01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,120
different?
That's I guess that's my thing

1785
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:03,120
'cause it are all fine to spend
like I.

1786
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:04,960
Don't know how the office is
going to be different.

1787
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:07,760
The fucking line.
Well, the.

1788
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:10,640
Line's going to improve.
The line has to improve for the

1789
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,720
auction to.
Be improved and a border board

1790
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:14,920
starting.
But he's bringing in a pocket

1791
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,280
passer like he's going to.
You bet the line that'll be.

1792
01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:20,040
I don't know if it's a true
pocket passer.

1793
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,320
It's going to be somebody that
can throw from the pocket with

1794
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,560
wiggle.
It's not going to be a true dual

1795
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,320
threat if you if that's what
we're talking about.

1796
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,000
Spit on it, Brian.
Spit on the mic, Brian.

1797
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:31,960
Spit on the mic, Brian.
That's it.

1798
01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:34,800
Yeah.
You're you're you're going to

1799
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:36,800
nobody you're getting.
Broke up.

1800
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,600
Both are dual.
Hey, here's here's here's here's

1801
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:41,280
the biggest thing you're going
to have what time you're going

1802
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:42,960
to have a, you're going to have
a full time.

1803
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:46,320
Coach something that.
Kyron didn't have and that's

1804
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:48,080
going to be a big boost to that
guy.

1805
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:52,920
Sure you got full time, but if
our offensive line.

1806
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:55,120
If.
Our offensive line struggled to

1807
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:56,880
pass block last.
Year and we're.

1808
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,200
We're going to get that much.
Better that we can pass block

1809
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:01,680
this year that quick.
That's my concern.

1810
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:04,520
Did you see this running the
transfer portal?

1811
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:10,560
Anybody.
Just today XX is in. 2525

1812
01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:11,280
billion.
Dollars.

1813
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:13,120
You.
Bringing Chaplin back.

1814
01:34:14,040 --> 01:34:16,320
No, but great.
I mean it.

1815
01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:18,560
Was.
Around a program with rent rod.

1816
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:19,800
Pays him?
I hope so.

1817
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,200
But was quarterback.
I mean, quarterback went like

1818
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,000
that, man.
Come again?

1819
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,440
I didn't hear you.
I'm sorry bro, quarterback ones

1820
01:34:26,440 --> 01:34:30,080
going to be somewhere between
like. 1 1/2 and 3 1/2.

1821
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,200
Not, not a lot, OK.
That's the market, that's.

1822
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,280
The market.
I shared.

1823
01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:41,240
This with some guys that I love.
And I know.

1824
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,600
I'm Chris remember we streaming
live FY right right pulling back

1825
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:48,840
this new town and the XO's is.
Hidden right now if if if you,

1826
01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:50,840
if you.
Get you pay 10 million.

1827
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:53,800
You change this.
Football team forever.

1828
01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:56,640
You change this because you go.
Get 4 offensive.

1829
01:34:56,640 --> 01:35:00,200
Lineman and a quarterback,
you've got enough skill pieces

1830
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:05,920
around you that you'll be able
to be super Uber competitive in

1831
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:07,880
in this year.
You're going to, you're going to

1832
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:12,800
pour you no, no, no.
If you spend 10 total if you

1833
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:18,120
spend. 10.
On offense for underlying and a

1834
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,320
quarterback, you already got a
four-star.

1835
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:24,840
Tight in on your roster?
Already OK, he might not be able

1836
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,800
to block work for damn, but he's
still a four-star guy.

1837
01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:32,000
Hey, hey, I'm just saying, you
know, can I say something?

1838
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:32,840
Too.
Go ahead, Chris.

1839
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:34,480
I don't.
Mean to jump in over you, but

1840
01:35:34,480 --> 01:35:36,520
like.
One of the things that we're

1841
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:40,440
going to see with a Tahal
offense is we're going to see

1842
01:35:40,440 --> 01:35:43,880
that tight end get some work
right.

1843
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,720
So if you so we have we haven't
had anybody that's been.

1844
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:51,080
Able to really dominate the
middle of the field since Daquan

1845
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:53,480
Law, Daquan right, left to go to
Ole Miss.

1846
01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:56,000
You go and get that guy that can
dominate the middle of the

1847
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,920
field.
That means you draw more one on

1848
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:02,400
ones on the outsides and you
give me a Aiden Green and you

1849
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:06,040
give me somebody else on the
outside that can run one-on-one

1850
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,560
routes.
I know that kid.

1851
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:09,800
Yeah.
Yeah.

1852
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,320
So you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.

1853
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:13,880
I'm.
I'm, I'm yeah, so.

1854
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:18,240
You'll be OK, but if you turn
around and go get 4 offensive

1855
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:22,640
lineman and a quarterback
because that quarterback you get

1856
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:26,400
is got to be a one year guy and
then you got to have a backup

1857
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:29,480
guy who can go in.
God forbid something happens to

1858
01:36:29,480 --> 01:36:32,440
the number one because your
future is hewn.

1859
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:37,240
That's your future.
Yeah, Hume, Hume is your future.

1860
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:41,520
And and you give him a year
inside the system with a with

1861
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,120
with.
With DOB.

1862
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,480
I think we'll be fine.
That's just an act of if there's

1863
01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:50,680
an act of God where you can
finesse probula and grump to

1864
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:54,280
both, you can.
The thing is, you can do it.

1865
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:56,960
The thing is you.
Actually can do that.

1866
01:36:57,440 --> 01:36:58,480
You're going to.
You're going to.

1867
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:00,560
You're going to you're.
Going to over.

1868
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,480
You can, so that's probably 5.
Million for.

1869
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:06,680
For two quarterbacks.
Right, you're going to overpay.

1870
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:08,320
You're going to overpay for your
backup, right?

1871
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:10,360
Right.
But you know what?

1872
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:11,720
I'm a fan.
Hold on, I'm a.

1873
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,240
Fan of the San Francisco 40?
Niners, we have the highest.

1874
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,480
Paid backup in the league.
You know what?

1875
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,000
It's benefited us this year.
You pay your backup.

1876
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,040
It's the reason they paid pop.
Last year it was stupidity.

1877
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,760
We didn't play him some this
year because the kid deserved a

1878
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:28,400
chance when it proved the
offense couldn't work correctly.

1879
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,880
And the whole thing is you pay
your back up because if that

1880
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:33,960
guy.
Goes down.

1881
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,440
If it's prevailing Grunk and
mine, let's say that's it.

1882
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,480
You pay Privula 3, you give
Grunk 2 and there's 5 right

1883
01:37:40,480 --> 01:37:43,440
there.
Do you have any fear if

1884
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:45,080
something happens to prevail
like this year?

1885
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:46,720
He screws his leg.
Up we're going to be.

1886
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,800
OK, Yeah, we're going to be OK.
That kid can play too.

1887
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,320
The question is going to be,
though.

1888
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:52,680
Hold on, wait a SEC.
Hold on, wait a SEC.

1889
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:56,680
Hold on.
Just for you, Dan, Hey.

1890
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:01,120
Sam.
Levitt, Sam Levitt, Quarterback

1891
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:02,560
I.
Had to do it.

1892
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:08,840
Sorry, Andre, it's an inside
visionary season is a Sean

1893
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:13,880
Levitt, Sam Levitt fan account
at this point.

1894
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,600
Oh, Andretti jumped off Anyway,
what I what I was going to say

1895
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,040
though, is that you got 5
million tied up in in two

1896
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,600
quarterbacks.
The question is going to be, is

1897
01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:26,240
Grunt Meyer going to want to
come to Blacksburg to be a

1898
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:30,600
backup?
That's the question that that I

1899
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:33,560
think needs to be solved.
Because if if he doesn't.

1900
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:36,600
He's already tasted what being a
starting quarterback in the Big

1901
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:39,320
10 is light.
Is Grunt Meyer going to want to

1902
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,040
come to Blacksburg to be a
backup?

1903
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:44,320
I think you tell regardless of
the money, I think he's telling

1904
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:46,000
me the chance to compete.
For it.

1905
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,120
And if he if he fought?
If he doesn't.

1906
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:48,760
Get it?
He still.

1907
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,680
Has two years of eligibility to.
What?

1908
01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:55,160
Can't happen in the spring.
What can't they do anymore?

1909
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,160
Transfer.
They can't transfer you you.

1910
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,200
The way I feel about James.
Franklin.

1911
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:05,040
And talent staring at.
His phone, I don't know what

1912
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:06,360
he's reading.
He's been reading for like 6

1913
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:07,920
minutes, so he's reading
something important.

1914
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:12,760
I feel like Franklin's that type
of guy who lays things out and

1915
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:17,000
will sell to whoever he has,
whether it's one or two guys,

1916
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:18,520
and he's like, this is how we're
going to do.

1917
01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:20,160
You're going to compete.
The best guy who's going to win.

1918
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:23,360
The best guy is going to win.
But you've got multiple years of

1919
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,280
eligibility.
You come in here and compete.

1920
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:26,800
I'm going to see you every
single day.

1921
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:28,800
You know what's likely going to
happen next year?

1922
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:30,240
You don't get that $1,000,000
pay moment.

1923
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,560
You don't go to three.
Not at 2 anymore.

1924
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:35,520
But you got to sit with me this
year too.

1925
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:41,400
And there you go, my biggest.
Question on Franklin.

1926
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:44,360
Is how he manages all this.
Nil money he.

1927
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:47,520
Had a ton of NIL money at Penn
State and if you listen to that

1928
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:53,120
apparently audio that leaked
audio, like they got top five in

1929
01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:55,560
L money at Penn State.
How do you manage that and how

1930
01:39:55,960 --> 01:40:00,040
not so much how do you manage
like who you sign, but how do

1931
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,800
you manage the locker room?
And like somebody gets this or

1932
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,200
somebody gets that because those
West Virginia guys like that

1933
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:08,600
Steve guy, the rumor is like
he's like they just offered him

1934
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,880
more money and Frank's like
that's above our pay skit for

1935
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,160
that freshman.
So I'd be interested to know how

1936
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,360
he handles that because he's
never jumped with that.

1937
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,160
So, but you got, you got to
understand what he had in that.

1938
01:40:19,240 --> 01:40:21,840
Room.
He had three NFL guys.

1939
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:25,680
Out the gate, Nick Singleton,
NFL guy, right?

1940
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,880
Katron Allen, NFL guy, one of
his touches, right.

1941
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:35,760
Drew Aller, NFL guy, right.
And so you turn around, the

1942
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,880
piece that they lost was Todd
Warren.

1943
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:41,920
And the outside guys weren't
ready.

1944
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:46,160
They didn't they wouldn't get
Pena from Syracuse, you know

1945
01:40:46,160 --> 01:40:47,640
what I'm saying?
They didn't have any outside

1946
01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:48,840
guys from the throat of
football.

1947
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:52,920
So that that kind of really,
even though this was supposed to

1948
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:56,000
be a senior laden team that they
had, they didn't have any

1949
01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,480
outside guys that could really,
you know, be able to enhance

1950
01:40:58,480 --> 01:41:01,800
Drew Aller.
And Drew Aller went from you go

1951
01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,520
back and look at his numbers
from his sophomore year to his

1952
01:41:04,520 --> 01:41:06,720
junior year, his junior, he was
excellent.

1953
01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:09,320
He was just trying to take the
next step up.

1954
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:14,840
So man, this is just, this is
just a chip in a lot of

1955
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:16,760
different households, including
mine.

1956
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:18,760
It's chip on shoulder season,
man.

1957
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:23,240
It's chip on shoulder.
You know, I got fired wrong.

1958
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,000
I got stuff to prove.
You know, we're sitting here on

1959
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:32,240
the 26th, you know, we drinking
and January 2nd is going to be

1960
01:41:32,480 --> 01:41:35,440
going to be Christmas again,
because you're going to be able

1961
01:41:35,440 --> 01:41:40,120
to see, oh man, that that's
going to be that's going to be

1962
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:41,480
crazy.
Man, that second is.

1963
01:41:41,480 --> 01:41:42,560
Going to be.
Crazy.

1964
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:46,840
You know, some of us going to
have most of y'all, everybody in

1965
01:41:46,840 --> 01:41:48,840
this room going to have their
mortgage paid and everything

1966
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:50,600
going to be straight.
It's going to be a lot of folks

1967
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:52,960
trying to get the mortgage paid
on the second because it's going

1968
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,480
to be a lot of folks who's going
to enter into that portal and

1969
01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:56,920
it's going to be a lot of
different things.

1970
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,040
It's going to pop off.
That's going to change the

1971
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,680
fortunes of this football team
in a different way.

1972
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,920
And so many reports, man, early
reports the North Pole is that

1973
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,200
portal Santa is in the best
shape of his life.

1974
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,000
Yeah, he he, he is shape.
He is shape.

1975
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,920
We want to we're hearing some.
We're hearing some as many as

1976
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:15,880
like 18 plus Penn State.
Guys ready?

1977
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:21,840
To ride over to Blacksburg, but
I would be absolutely floored if

1978
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:23,800
we get a huge exodus of Penn.
State.

1979
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:26,160
I hope I'm wrong and I want to
be wrong.

1980
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:30,200
I would be floored if we get a
huge accident of Penn State to

1981
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:31,320
Vt.
What's huge?

1982
01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:35,680
What's the number?
I had AI, had a dude tell me.

1983
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:38,080
You know, you know he a food
service.

1984
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:46,120
Guy he, his number was 44 guys,
44 guys, he said.

1985
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,400
Food.
Service guy.

1986
01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:55,840
Hey.
He said total 40. 4 Four guys in

1987
01:42:55,840 --> 01:43:00,720
the portal from us for us, we
were going to have a flip over

1988
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:02,040
of 40.
Four guys.

1989
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:06,880
When we.
When he hit, when he when he

1990
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,680
went through the numbers, not
me, I was just doing the math,

1991
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:15,120
but when he went through the
numbers, it's like 44 guys 4 out

1992
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,120
out out of how many?
Hold on, what's the roster?

1993
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:21,360
Right there we got 100.
We got 105 guys.

1994
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:22,720
We.
Got 100 five guys.

1995
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,000
We got 105.
Scholarships.

1996
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,000
I was graduating.
Yeah.

1997
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:30,800
Hold on.
Wait the.

1998
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,280
Biggest The biggest complaint?
That I heard on Penn.

1999
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:34,960
State guys was they were so.
Pissed.

2000
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:39,040
Off that, Franklin gave Liam
Clifford any nil money at all

2001
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:42,400
because his name is Liam
Clifford.

2002
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:44,800
Is that why?
And they were.

2003
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:47,280
Like why are we paying Lee and
Clifford to come back?

2004
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:50,240
To be a a number.
Five wide receiver.

2005
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:51,800
That was their biggest
complaint.

2006
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,600
We are 44.
We are looking at 44.

2007
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:56,720
Chris and I broke it down when
Chris, Hey.

2008
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,800
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
We broke it down.

2009
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:02,160
It wasn't crazy.
It wasn't crazy.

2010
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,800
It wasn't crazy.
He was he was spot on.

2011
01:44:04,840 --> 01:44:07,920
Wait 44?
So like more than half our

2012
01:44:07,920 --> 01:44:10,120
roster down.
James Franklin does.

2013
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:13,280
Not like them.
Yeah, that's like Judge Williams

2014
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:15,960
when he came in and was like,
no, you suck.

2015
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:16,680
What?
The hell.

2016
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:18,640
All right, so.
Half the offensive line is gone.

2017
01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:19,480
Got it?
Cool.

2018
01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:21,480
We know that.
No, no, no.

2019
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:23,080
See.
See what we're what we're

2020
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:24,880
missing is we're not looking at
graduating.

2021
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:27,480
Guys, well, that's our question.
How many we got leaving?

2022
01:44:27,480 --> 01:44:29,440
Yeah, that's like 15 or 20 by
themselves.

2023
01:44:29,440 --> 01:44:31,800
That's like, that's like.
Half of it, OK.

2024
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,120
We're walk ONS, are we losing
walk ONS that we're walk ONS

2025
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:36,960
that aren't getting there's?
Technical.

2026
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:42,120
That that that's the exercise
for y'all to do off of this.

2027
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,160
Podcast.
No, we're going to do it right

2028
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:44,960
now.
I'm going to pull it up.

2029
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:47,760
No Curtis.
No, Curtis.

2030
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:49,560
Don't crunch the numbers right
now.

2031
01:44:49,960 --> 01:44:51,680
No mad, don't press the.
Numbers, Curtis put.

2032
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,560
It in ChatGPT Put it in ChatGPT
that we.

2033
01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:56,240
Could do.
Hey, Curtis, you don't want to.

2034
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,000
Have that tape, but I'm telling
you.

2035
01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,920
You got about what when me?
When me and me and Dan did it,

2036
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,840
we were legitimate.
It was about 44 guys.

2037
01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:07,800
It's another 24 guys on this, on
this.

2038
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:12,160
So we're talking about 20 Penn
State guys and another 2015 to

2039
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:13,400
20.
Coming in from the portal

2040
01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:18,600
elsewhere, y'all y'all are y'all
counting the graduates?

2041
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:19,480
Because the.
Guys who?

2042
01:45:19,480 --> 01:45:23,320
Graduate.
I'm not counting anything.

2043
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:24,880
We were count.
I was.

2044
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:29,000
Counting kids I would keep from
our team that's still in

2045
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,840
eligibility.
Yes, Nomad.

2046
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:34,520
OK.
And then you add hold.

2047
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,200
On here We Go, Brent Clatter.
Bra.

2048
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:37,680
Yes.
Oh.

2049
01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:39,400
Yeah, keeping.
Them.

2050
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:42,640
Are we just doing the rundown?
We just started at the top doing

2051
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,880
the rundown.
Don't do that, Curtis.

2052
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:47,720
That's not good.
That's that's.

2053
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:49,600
That's not good content.
That's not good content.

2054
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:52,800
Eight guys are coming to tech.
I think that's a more relevant

2055
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:53,880
question.
You said, you said.

2056
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:58,880
What's #20 You said 20 What's?
Temper do you consider huge.

2057
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:01,640
Bill.
I think 20 would be incredible.

2058
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:06,360
I really do like.
We had. 31st off we had 30 guys

2059
01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:10,720
leave last year.
You brought 30 guys in last

2060
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:12,960
year.
The caliber of guys that you

2061
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:18,280
brought in were not the caliber
that you had on this team that

2062
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,160
left.
Can we say that?

2063
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,000
Can we can we say that and not
be in trouble?

2064
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:23,760
That does happen on a three and
nine team.

2065
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:26,720
That is the team.
So so that math.

2066
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:28,920
Is Matting.
That math is matting.

2067
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:32,640
So if you bring 30 guys.
In that.

2068
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:37,680
Are 3343 to four-star guys
higher?

2069
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:42,200
You can bring 30 guys in.
I would prefer to bring in more

2070
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:45,720
kids that are not from Penn
State in the portal because to

2071
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:49,240
me that shows more influence and
range from Franklin than just

2072
01:46:49,440 --> 01:46:51,320
because you're not going to be
able to go to the Penn State.

2073
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:52,880
Well, every year you see what
I'm saying?

2074
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,640
So, right, although to his
point, he's probably not going

2075
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:57,160
to be going to the transfer.
Portal.

2076
01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:58,680
Well.
Heavy.

2077
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:01,440
Like he like he is this year,
every year.

2078
01:47:01,440 --> 01:47:04,200
So he doesn't have, he doesn't
have to like this year.

2079
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:07,160
He can lead on Penn State
because he already has that

2080
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,440
connection.
Going forward, he's going to

2081
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:13,560
have to be pulling guys from
other places. 16 left Penn State

2082
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:15,960
last year. 8 went to Penn State
last year.

2083
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:20,520
He is not the big.
He is not Dabo Sweeney basically

2084
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:25,000
saying one guy, but he is
looking for very specific the

2085
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,680
best teams.
The best teams build through

2086
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:30,200
high school.
Absolutely, initially.

2087
01:47:30,680 --> 01:47:33,320
Initially you can have a spark,
a portal, but.

2088
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:35,040
You better.
Build through high school,

2089
01:47:35,440 --> 01:47:36,960
right?
We were able to coach them up,

2090
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:41,560
so you've got to be able to get
22 to 2022.

2091
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:47,720
To 28 kids in high school every
year to keep your team building

2092
01:47:47,720 --> 01:47:50,280
through high school.
But this year will be the

2093
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:55,880
exception because you have 25
kids that were in the that were

2094
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:59,040
at Penn State that you're going
to draw from, you're going to

2095
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:00,680
have 20.
You know, you don't have those

2096
01:48:00,680 --> 01:48:03,000
kids you're going to be
bringing, right?

2097
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:06,440
So this should be an extension.
This should be an extension.

2098
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:08,600
Right this year is.
Like a gutting out he's going to

2099
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:11,800
get rid of right the what's what
he doesn't feel is.

2100
01:48:12,680 --> 01:48:14,440
Worth, he feels like.
Trimming the fat.

2101
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:17,000
He's trimming the fat, he feels
like.

2102
01:48:18,960 --> 01:48:20,560
Yeah, right.
Trimming the fat.

2103
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:22,280
He's getting rid of what he
feels is worthless.

2104
01:48:22,440 --> 01:48:24,120
But I'm going to say.
This.

2105
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,040
Real quick, I'm.
Going to go back to Brent Pry

2106
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:27,880
real quick.
Yeah, We got to go back to

2107
01:48:28,480 --> 01:48:29,600
Brent.
Now I want to talk about Brent

2108
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:31,520
for one reason, because when we
sat on.

2109
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:34,600
This program.
Four years ago, that wasn't

2110
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:37,960
pretty.
Four years ago I was really

2111
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:39,680
drunk.
Really drunk.

2112
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:42,480
Not like this year, I'm sober.
This year, but.

2113
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:46,040
If you look at where we are.
As far as it goes.

2114
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:49,240
Recruiting.
How it wise and all that

2115
01:48:49,240 --> 01:48:51,440
internally?
How much?

2116
01:48:51,440 --> 01:48:53,440
Better and I'm looking.
At Tally and Brian because we

2117
01:48:53,440 --> 01:48:54,800
talked.
About because four years.

2118
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:55,800
Ago, we were drunk.
We were.

2119
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:57,320
Mad.
We were six and six.

2120
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,840
We had 520.
We were in the garbage dumps,

2121
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:04,400
but we look at our talent and it
was just like, God, it's, it's

2122
01:49:04,440 --> 01:49:07,480
no talent here.
We've burned all the bridges.

2123
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:10,320
We started reading the stories.
Every bridge burned in the

2124
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:12,200
region, every bridge burned in
Virginia.

2125
01:49:12,360 --> 01:49:14,440
And then you started looking at
the talent and everybody's like

2126
01:49:14,440 --> 01:49:18,320
when, when, when, when Brett
came in 2022 and we won three

2127
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:19,440
frigging games.
It was just.

2128
01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:21,040
Like, oh, this team's terrible.
This is horrible.

2129
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,520
He's a horrible coach.
And it's like, no, not really,

2130
01:49:24,480 --> 01:49:27,120
because we started looking at
how many of those guys went pro,

2131
01:49:27,120 --> 01:49:30,040
how many of those guys went to
other teams and succeeded.

2132
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:35,120
Little, right, little to none.
And then I.

2133
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:37,480
Look at the roster.
This year and you see guys like

2134
01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:40,040
Noah Chambers play.
You see, Jeff?

2135
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:44,120
Overton junior play you see a
guy like Kalor tuner who ungodly

2136
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:48,520
I mean Brian you played D3 that
kid is a red shirt freshman

2137
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:53,200
starting as a center and he
played pretty daggone good yeah

2138
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:57,120
I feel like where we were four
years ago to where we are now

2139
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:58,440
just.
Talent wise.

2140
01:49:59,320 --> 01:50:02,160
In that building is
significantly higher.

2141
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:03,960
And I don't.
Know if anybody?

2142
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,120
Else feels that way.
If somebody doesn't feel that

2143
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:08,720
way, then say it.
We need to get this guy on here

2144
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:14,560
because he's saying no Devil
dogs where?

2145
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:18,760
Where's he at?
Where's he at?

2146
01:50:19,200 --> 01:50:20,600
I'm drunk.
I would agree.

2147
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,880
Though shout out to pride for
that and and Franklin even said.

2148
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:27,160
Like he resurrected.
Like he brought the Virginia

2149
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:31,880
back into Virginia Tech with
that because Fuente gave no

2150
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:34,400
fucks about Virginia.
Like I could say that.

2151
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,160
I could say that he could coach
up a first quarter and a half,

2152
01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:40,520
but I mean, he didn't give a
shit about recruiting Virginia.

2153
01:50:40,800 --> 01:50:45,360
So Brent Pryde, Richmond, TX
Brent Pryde got.

2154
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,480
A a rent he got.
A shell of a house.

2155
01:50:49,480 --> 01:50:51,040
When he came here, sure,
absolutely.

2156
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:57,040
Brent Pryde had.
He got very few PP five guys at

2157
01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:03,080
that time on his roster.
Brent Pry in the two years in

2158
01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:04,640
the three years he was.
Here.

2159
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:12,120
He has his 20, his 23 class, his
24 and his 25 class have

2160
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:17,640
Division 1P4 talent.
What James Franklin is going to

2161
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:23,680
do on a on a hyper level is take
that talent, boost it up, give

2162
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:28,600
it accountability, make them get
them coached hard that the

2163
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:32,120
majority's kids want to and then
add to it that.

2164
01:51:32,120 --> 01:51:35,480
It's going to be iron.
Sharpen iron What?

2165
01:51:35,480 --> 01:51:38,360
What James Franklin's going to
get compared to a?

2166
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:42,840
Brent.
Pride got is night and day as a

2167
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:45,520
football team there we're
talking about 40 kids.

2168
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:50,280
Well, James Franklin's also how
many X times better of a head

2169
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:53,720
football.
Coach right, but but but but and

2170
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:58,720
and and and besides that of him
being a being a better HC.

2171
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,000
But the thing about it is that
the evaluation of talent that

2172
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,960
he's going to have to work with,
he's not coming bare bones.

2173
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:11,120
You got to remember, Belichick
turned around and brought in 70

2174
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:13,840
guys to the portal.
We're talking about 40.

2175
01:52:14,440 --> 01:52:19,640
Yeah, Well, well, excuse me.
Dan's talking about 40 to 44.

2176
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:22,880
Dan's talking about 40.
It's alleged he.

2177
01:52:22,880 --> 01:52:25,680
Got a homeboy?
That might agree with him, but

2178
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:30,400
there's 40 that yeah, you talk
about 40 kids too.

2179
01:52:30,440 --> 01:52:32,560
But is it, is it harder?
Because I don't think it's

2180
01:52:32,560 --> 01:52:35,360
harder to get people to come to
Blacksburg.

2181
01:52:35,360 --> 01:52:37,040
Than Happy Valley.
I don't think there's much

2182
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:39,360
difference.
Well, no difference is going to

2183
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:40,840
be who you're making play it
against.

2184
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:44,600
Yeah, I only know one.
I only know one family that has

2185
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:47,480
a hard time.
Deciding between Blacksburg and

2186
01:52:47,480 --> 01:52:50,240
Hampton Valley sounds like the
Poindexter family is who it

2187
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:53,080
sounds like let's know know who
know who's on the.

2188
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:56,400
Staff know who's on the staff.
Well, you got one regardless.

2189
01:52:56,880 --> 01:53:00,000
I, I I only know one family that
didn't want to deal with.

2190
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:02,840
Ice.
Cream and bowling all the time.

2191
01:53:03,360 --> 01:53:06,080
Anybody else?
They got their own differences.

2192
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:09,760
I only know of one family.
I can only attest to one family.

2193
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:17,120
But at the end of the day,
Blacksburg, Blacksburg is just

2194
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:18,280
different.
Blacksburg is.

2195
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:20,160
Home Blacksburg.
Blacksburg.

2196
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:24,640
Will always be home.
I'm, I mean, I'm a Carolina guy.

2197
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:29,360
I'm I'm, I'm, I'm Michael
Jordan, you know, I'm Jimmy

2198
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:32,280
Black, Carolina guy.
OK.

2199
01:53:32,480 --> 01:53:35,320
And if anybody knows who Jimmy
Black is, they will understand.

2200
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,360
I'm a Jimmy Black basketball
guy.

2201
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:39,680
I've been a Carolina guy my
whole life.

2202
01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,280
Whole life.
Famous Amos Lawrence was my

2203
01:53:42,280 --> 01:53:44,640
favorite football player from
Carolina.

2204
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:48,240
But I'm a hokey because I love
this program, what this program

2205
01:53:48,240 --> 01:53:51,040
brings.
So we'll be OK.

2206
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:54,560
What's going on?
Nothing much.

2207
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:57,320
How are y'all you drunk?
What are you drinking on?

2208
01:53:57,880 --> 01:53:59,880
What you drinking on?
What drink Coke, man?

2209
01:53:59,880 --> 01:54:00,720
Woodford.
And Coke.

2210
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:05,320
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Woodford occur that's.

2211
01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:09,600
My guy.
So what you got?

2212
01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:13,200
Go ahead, go ahead.
Bro I was going to say what you

2213
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:14,000
what you got.
For us.

2214
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,160
Hey.
It looks great.

2215
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:20,000
Man I I enjoy.
Everything y'all doing?

2216
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:26,200
Here and everything and I've got
it going.

2217
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:32,480
Hey, man.
What?

2218
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:58,200
Kind of shirt you got on Alabama
Internet.

2219
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:02,400
That's.
Fine, no, But the Internet's

2220
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:03,440
great.
The Internet's great.

2221
01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:04,560
And two.
That that me is is is hidden.

2222
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:07,760
So I got the got the drug.
Working for me, but no, man, I'm

2223
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,360
just taking everything in.
I mean everything that's being

2224
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:17,200
said, I'm kind of I mean it
feels, feels tags as it all show

2225
01:55:17,200 --> 01:55:20,560
me, you know what I'm saying?
Like we probably need to come

2226
01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:24,760
back after the portal is open
and we get the, the, the guys in

2227
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:29,360
and, and come back and reconvene
on this state of the program.

2228
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:32,720
Because we don't really, this is
the state of the program in

2229
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:34,240
December.
You know what I'm saying?

2230
01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:36,400
The state of the program in
January is going to be totally

2231
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:39,200
different.
We still haven't got, we still

2232
01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:43,600
haven't got the real, the real
players that we need to come

2233
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:45,040
back.
We haven't got those running

2234
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,400
backs yet.
You know, there's still some

2235
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:49,120
running backs that we got to get
in.

2236
01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:51,680
That's still the portal guys
that we got to see.

2237
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:53,480
We need to know who our
quarterback is.

2238
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:57,440
And I'm telling you, you got to
go get 3 to 4 office alignment

2239
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:00,560
to go out here and you got to
win eight games.

2240
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:05,400
You got to put that much money.
To put that much money as you're

2241
01:56:05,400 --> 01:56:08,560
putting in that program.
You got to win 8 to 9 games.

2242
01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:12,760
You got to tally.
There was a yeah, there was a

2243
01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:15,440
text message you dropped.
That that had the.

2244
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:17,880
The run it.
Backs, you need to see hey, hey,

2245
01:56:17,880 --> 01:56:19,480
hey, hey.
I ain't going to drop no names.

2246
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:21,480
I'm just saying I'm not
dropping.

2247
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:24,280
No names, but I know I.
Know the names that Tally needs

2248
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,600
to see before you feel feel like
something.

2249
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:29,000
Noah Chamber.
Come on back, baby.

2250
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:35,760
Yeah.
Anybody from the DMV?

2251
01:56:35,760 --> 01:56:38,600
Gonzaga.
Demand any of those guys need

2252
01:56:38,640 --> 01:56:41,680
the Keelan Adams run it back
stat.

2253
01:56:41,680 --> 01:56:43,200
Where's Emmett Laws at?
We he was.

2254
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:45,160
He.
I mean, he, it seemed like he

2255
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:47,920
did some stuff for us.
And we never seen him again.

2256
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:50,880
Man, I love Emmett, I like
seeing him.

2257
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:53,200
I like to see him.
Yeah.

2258
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,600
Any kid that takes the train 5.
Hours a day.

2259
01:56:57,600 --> 01:56:59,600
Just to go to a better.
School to make it out.

2260
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:01,640
Has.
He built different, no doubt.

2261
01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:08,200
No doubt that's like 30 for. 30s
eventually like in the NFL.

2262
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:13,840
And this is how we started.
Like 100% what happened to him.

2263
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:17,520
I know it's a lot.
Well, South Carolina.

2264
01:57:17,520 --> 01:57:19,400
Wasn't worth the fuck.
Is #1.

2265
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:22,960
So we thought South Carolina.
Was a much better team than they

2266
01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:25,480
was.
So when you started going into

2267
01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:29,360
the season and then we looked
like we were OK and then wheels

2268
01:57:29,360 --> 01:57:32,280
fell off and then the coach gets
fired, A lot of different things

2269
01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:34,800
happened.
You know, some kids, I mean, we,

2270
01:57:35,080 --> 01:57:38,560
we're not going to say some kids
didn't say some kids because

2271
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:42,600
like, you know, I need to hold
off and see who's coming here.

2272
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:45,200
Let me see what's going on
before I go out here and waste

2273
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,360
my eligible, you know, waste my
eligibility.

2274
01:57:48,280 --> 01:57:50,800
So I think stuff like that kind
of happen.

2275
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:55,440
Yeah.
Give me 4 starting.

2276
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:58,800
Offensive lineman in the portal
and a couple death pieces.

2277
01:58:01,200 --> 01:58:03,240
Yeah, I think that that's you
got to start building in the

2278
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:04,880
trenches.
Whether it's running backs or

2279
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:08,400
whether it's.
Portal like that, when you look

2280
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:13,240
at the way winning teams win
consistently is that they were

2281
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:16,160
consistently good at the line of
scrimmage on both sides of the

2282
01:58:16,160 --> 01:58:19,400
football.
If you spend 5 to $6 million on

2283
01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:21,680
a starting offensive line in the
portal, that's the best 5:00 to.

2284
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:26,080
$6 million you spend it.
No, no, no.

2285
01:58:26,120 --> 01:58:28,920
You said offensive line put 5 to
6 billion.

2286
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:31,680
Dollars on both.
Sides of the lines you spend 4

2287
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:35,680
million on the D line.
In the offensive line, you.

2288
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:39,760
Will be significantly.
Better from jump because you

2289
01:58:39,760 --> 01:58:42,960
need 2 edges and two DTS
regardless of the running backs,

2290
01:58:42,960 --> 01:58:43,600
Yeah.
We need some.

2291
01:58:44,080 --> 01:58:44,720
Demons on.
The.

2292
01:58:45,080 --> 01:58:47,720
On the defensive end side, go
get me, go.

2293
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:53,160
Get Me 99 from Penn State.
Don't get.

2294
01:58:53,160 --> 01:58:55,200
Him, 99, from Penn.
State you.

2295
01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:57,480
Ain't got to look it up.
He.

2296
01:58:57,800 --> 01:58:59,760
Said say the name, so I don't.
Get him.

2297
01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:03,200
Are we getting Hollywood?
Smothers.

2298
01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:06,240
I saw that we're we're trying to
get Hollywood Smothers.

2299
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:10,800
Like you're kidding me.
I was shocked.

2300
01:59:11,960 --> 01:59:13,520
I'm telling.
You I don't need a Hollywood.

2301
01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:15,760
Smothers agreed.
That's why I'm shocked.

2302
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:18,200
I don't understand.
I need 6 months.

2303
01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,600
Jeffrey Overson.
Junior on a rehab.

2304
01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:26,480
Hollywood's mothers line is what
we need, not.

2305
01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:29,600
I don't, I don't think.
I don't think you need more.

2306
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:31,520
Running back depth, I'm going to
be honest.

2307
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:35,680
With you, if you keep the
running backs you have now and

2308
01:59:35,680 --> 01:59:37,600
I'm talking about a Jeremiah.
Kony.

2309
01:59:38,000 --> 01:59:43,240
I'm talking about, I'm talking
about a shoot.

2310
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:45,680
You keep, you keep.
You keep, Mason.

2311
01:59:46,440 --> 01:59:49,080
You keep, Mason, you keep.
You keep.

2312
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:53,920
Hard and Messiah.
And.

2313
01:59:54,280 --> 01:59:56,280
With Seldon.
And you keep Seldon as a.

2314
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:58,400
Hybrid, you're fine.
I think the.

2315
01:59:58,400 --> 02:00:00,800
Biggest time you want to spend
your money is on your offensive

2316
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:02,800
line.
You bring another, bring

2317
02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:03,960
another.
Two tight ends.

2318
02:00:05,560 --> 02:00:06,160
And.
A QB.

2319
02:00:07,160 --> 02:00:09,120
And a corner and your and.
Your QB.

2320
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:11,960
We need 3 QBs right?
I mean, we got a.

2321
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:14,680
Bring it in you.
You need 2.

2322
02:00:15,720 --> 02:00:17,720
My my my suggestion is you need
2.

2323
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:21,240
You need 2 because you got two
true freshmen that's going to be

2324
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:22,800
red shirt freshman this year.
Then you got.

2325
02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:25,800
Hume coming in so.
If you get to your third

2326
02:00:25,800 --> 02:00:28,360
quarterback, you fucked anyway,
so it ain't fucking paying.

2327
02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:29,520
Money for that?
Well, you fucked.

2328
02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:32,000
Anyway, you're done.
You're done.

2329
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:34,840
You're done.
I mean shit.

2330
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:37,320
They were three and nine guys
with our QB.

2331
02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:39,400
One.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

2332
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:42,760
So like you break in two, you
got to bring in two but.

2333
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:45,000
Beyond.
That you keep the two guys that

2334
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:48,560
you got on the roster and like I
said, because if you get to QB

2335
02:00:48,560 --> 02:00:50,440
three, you fucked in that season
anyway.

2336
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:53,840
I don't think people really
understand.

2337
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:56,800
People don't really understand.
The talent difference.

2338
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:58,600
That you're going to see with
James Franklin being there

2339
02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:03,040
number one and #2 the team
difference that you have when

2340
02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:04,800
your when your trenches look
better.

2341
02:01:05,440 --> 02:01:08,400
Our offensive line has been in
disarray for a long time.

2342
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:12,120
Even when our offensive line was
good in the last couple of

2343
02:01:12,120 --> 02:01:16,240
years, it's been in disarray.
So when we get a consistent

2344
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:20,640
offensive line that we're going
to trot the same guys out to go

2345
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:23,880
play unless somebody gets hurt
that you don't want, but it has

2346
02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:25,400
happened, you know what I'm
saying?

2347
02:01:25,480 --> 02:01:28,400
If you can trot the same guys
out and you get some continuity

2348
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:31,760
on the line, you're going to see
a lot better offense no matter

2349
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:34,880
who's back there.
But you got to get a quarterback

2350
02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:36,600
that can run the system that you
have.

2351
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:41,000
You know, we just didn't we we
were just, we've been in, we've

2352
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:44,240
been just in flux for probably
about three years.

2353
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:47,160
So you want to get Tori and Gray
back?

2354
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:50,960
They're trying.
Going to Florida, I saw him.

2355
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:53,560
Is he going to?
Florida or no staying?

2356
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:54,640
In South Carolina, I mean
staying.

2357
02:01:54,640 --> 02:01:56,600
By.
The way.

2358
02:01:57,520 --> 02:02:00,280
That is a brave move by Tori and
Gray, because Devil.

2359
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:03,760
Dog, you're right.
He probably should leave there

2360
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:07,840
because I'm sorry, I don't.
Yeah, Shane, he's a freaking

2361
02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:09,520
hokey.
Yeah, but he's getting a whole

2362
02:02:09,760 --> 02:02:11,520
$1,000,000.
He's making his money.

2363
02:02:11,520 --> 02:02:12,880
This.
Year and if he has to move it

2364
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:14,800
he's.
Shane got a lot of them not to

2365
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:19,360
that team, so Shane was there.
With him, that's the whole

2366
02:02:19,360 --> 02:02:20,400
thing.
Doesn't have to move his.

2367
02:02:20,400 --> 02:02:22,760
Family doesn't have.
To do anything, play the loyalty

2368
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:24,560
card too.
I think he's I that's.

2369
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:26,880
What I why, why, Why uproot
everything?

2370
02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:32,320
So I've got a flag.
I've got a flag right here.

2371
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:35,880
That's that's.
That's that's signed.

2372
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:39,080
By Torian Gray There's a flag
over.

2373
02:02:39,080 --> 02:02:42,120
Here it's signed by Torian.
Gray, He's a.

2374
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:44,400
Hokey.
He's been here.

2375
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:45,640
His.
His.

2376
02:02:45,640 --> 02:02:47,840
Family's his.
Family moved over here.

2377
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:50,960
Yeah, but his family right now
is in South Carolina, so he's

2378
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:52,560
probably showing me two.
Like give.

2379
02:02:52,640 --> 02:02:54,320
Me a year.
Let me see who you're working

2380
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:56,760
with.
Oh yeah, it's 4 hours, 5 hours

2381
02:02:56,760 --> 02:03:00,080
behind the scenes.
He has Sir, behind the scenes, a

2382
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:01,960
lot of the stuff that these
cultures say that.

2383
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:03,760
These cultures.
Do man you?

2384
02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:10,440
Know what I'm saying?
Like Shane has said a lot.

2385
02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:12,600
Of stuff about Virginia.
Tech, some of the stuff he's

2386
02:03:12,600 --> 02:03:15,200
right, but some of the stuff he
can't come back from.

2387
02:03:15,440 --> 02:03:17,960
You know what I'm saying, what
he said, the parents, what he

2388
02:03:17,960 --> 02:03:21,440
said, the players, what he said.
The schools in Virginia, Toy and

2389
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:23,640
Gray has been the same way.
They've had to negatively

2390
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:26,600
recruit against Virginia Tech
for a long time.

2391
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:30,000
So you can't just automatically
hit a switch and go, you know,

2392
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:31,840
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm a hokey.
I'm coming back.

2393
02:03:31,960 --> 02:03:35,920
Like sometimes you build it in
and and sometimes you feel like

2394
02:03:35,920 --> 02:03:37,960
you were done wrong by a place.
So you want?

2395
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:40,320
To prove them wrong.
So I kind of feel like that's

2396
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:42,440
what it is with some of the
people reached out who we've

2397
02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:45,080
kind of reached, who we've kind
of talking shit.

2398
02:03:45,120 --> 02:03:47,080
You're going to talk.
I kind of Freeman.

2399
02:03:49,000 --> 02:03:50,520
Look if Marcus Freeman takes
his.

2400
02:03:50,520 --> 02:03:52,880
Giants job.
I want that cornerback.

2401
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:54,520
Coach from Notre Dame, if we.
Can get.

2402
02:03:54,520 --> 02:03:56,440
Them.
Yeah.

2403
02:03:56,760 --> 02:04:01,520
Wow.
He did that Giants job now at

2404
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:04,640
this point he could have taken.
It weeks ago right if he if.

2405
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:08,720
Freeman take if Freeman takes
the Giants.

2406
02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:16,080
Job we you can have three
reddishes in Virginia Tech and

2407
02:04:16,120 --> 02:04:19,040
and the DB coach back.
I mean, it's it's a lot of

2408
02:04:19,040 --> 02:04:22,000
moving parts, man.
It's a lot of moving parts going

2409
02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:23,400
on.
I'll take two reddishes.

2410
02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:28,400
Listen first.
I know.

2411
02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:32,280
But the other one, I want the
other Reg.

2412
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:35,600
He wants the other Reg.
And hit listen.

2413
02:04:35,800 --> 02:04:36,920
I'll.
Take Joseph.

2414
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:38,560
I'll take.
I'll take.

2415
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:43,760
Any seven O 4 kid I can get
because I I vouch for every

2416
02:04:43,760 --> 02:04:47,080
seven O 4 kid that comes out
because they definitely

2417
02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:51,360
different olds.
Seven O 4 / 7 five seven for a

2418
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:52,720
long time.
No, no, no.

2419
02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:59,120
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Chris, I'm no bring it in.

2420
02:05:00,440 --> 02:05:01,680
Don't do.
That I love.

2421
02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:02,600
Myself.
God.

2422
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:04,600
It's not that I don't.
Love them.

2423
02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:07,960
It's not that I don't love them.
It's not it's not an anti love.

2424
02:05:07,960 --> 02:05:11,400
I just, and I'm sorry, I've had
too many beers, 7 to 3, two.

2425
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:13,960
I like that too, but I'm just
staying.

2426
02:05:15,200 --> 02:05:16,200
I don't know.
You go.

2427
02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:19,480
I am.
I am biased to Independence High

2428
02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:20,880
School kids.
I am.

2429
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:24,640
Biased to West Charlotte kids.
I am biased to north Mecklenburg

2430
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:27,640
kids.
Seven O 4 kids are absolutely

2431
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:29,800
different.
So about 336 baby.

2432
02:05:30,240 --> 02:05:33,760
Hey, I'm just I'm just saying
right now you just play it by

2433
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:36,960
you let you let it flow out the
way it needs to.

2434
02:05:37,280 --> 02:05:42,040
But if I can keep Q radish and
he knows how I feel about him

2435
02:05:42,360 --> 02:05:45,360
and we talk about it,
personally, I want him to stay.

2436
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:49,080
And if his brother can come, I'm
definitely excited about that as

2437
02:05:49,080 --> 02:05:51,880
well.
So it is, Hey, I'm not biased.

2438
02:05:51,880 --> 02:05:55,200
I'm not biased on on on
Virginia, on Virginia.

2439
02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:58,080
Tech on Virginia football
players.

2440
02:05:58,360 --> 02:06:01,760
But we're not producing football
players these days.

2441
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:07,760
It's different.
If we're not, we're just not.

2442
02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:13,080
Yeah, I.
Agree.

2443
02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:16,000
I agree, Tyler, I agree.
We get the ones.

2444
02:06:16,000 --> 02:06:18,520
That produce.
We we got to start getting four

2445
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:21,440
in the top. 10 every year.
Every year.

2446
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:25,440
I agree.
I agree. 4IN Mineral.

2447
02:06:26,520 --> 02:06:28,840
The running back in Mineral.
Should be.

2448
02:06:28,840 --> 02:06:34,400
Coming down here.
Hey, hey, listen, Savion.

2449
02:06:34,520 --> 02:06:37,080
Savion Hitter is an absolute
Sunday guy.

2450
02:06:37,640 --> 02:06:39,520
I agree.
You should be coming down here.

2451
02:06:40,200 --> 02:06:42,320
I mean, listen, sometimes it's
too.

2452
02:06:42,320 --> 02:06:47,320
Close to home savior Travis.
Johnson Travis Johnson has an

2453
02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:54,200
opportunity to be a Sunday guy.
We need to have a.

2454
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:56,760
Conversation.
About being better in the 804.

2455
02:06:57,840 --> 02:07:00,960
Because because what's going on
is that there's about 3 kids in

2456
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:03,160
the 804 that.
In the Virginia Top. 10 every

2457
02:07:03,160 --> 02:07:07,600
year and we are maybe hitting on
one of them, usually not hitting

2458
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:09,880
on on them.
They got a couple that are

2459
02:07:09,880 --> 02:07:13,120
going, they got a couple that
are going up to the street, up

2460
02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:15,120
from one of the road.
And I'm not a.

2461
02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:17,360
Big.
Fan I saw Bull Richardson play 3

2462
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:19,320
times this year.
I wanted Bull.

2463
02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:21,720
Richardson.
And Virginia Tech, we need to

2464
02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:24,800
start tapping into Verona a
little bit better because Verona

2465
02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:27,600
historically has not been good.
They always been at UVA school.

2466
02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:30,720
Yeah, but we got, we got, we got
to make some inroads, man.

2467
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:35,360
We got to make some inroads the.
Thing is, is Virginia, like I

2468
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:37,200
feel like me being in Alabama
and me.

2469
02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:39,440
Listening to a lot.
Of Virginia people, y'all can

2470
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:42,080
get on there if you want to.
Like I feel like y'all are a

2471
02:07:42,080 --> 02:07:45,320
little spoiled because a lot of
people they say you know these

2472
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:47,000
kids should be playing from
Virginia Tech.

2473
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:49,640
This is home and this is where
they should be playing in front

2474
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:52,280
of their families.
Blacksburg is a weird ass place.

2475
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:55,400
Like I can get the Blacksburg
quicker than some people in

2476
02:07:55,400 --> 02:07:56,920
Virginia that can get the
Blacksburg.

2477
02:07:57,080 --> 02:08:00,680
This is 7 hours, 6 hours, 5
hours for some of these kids to

2478
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:04,000
go to the Blacksburg place.
They can go to UVAI mean they

2479
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:06,320
can go to UNC.
And be.

2480
02:08:06,320 --> 02:08:08,120
Closer.
To home than they can Virginia

2481
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:10,440
Tech.
So you can't say like Virginia

2482
02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:13,840
should be home to Virginia kids.
You have to make it home.

2483
02:08:14,160 --> 02:08:16,440
You got to make it home and you
got to put the product on the

2484
02:08:16,480 --> 02:08:20,280
video and we have that.
Let me get this out though.

2485
02:08:20,360 --> 02:08:23,080
You got to get this out you.
Got to put people in the league.

2486
02:08:23,480 --> 02:08:25,920
And you got to put them in the
league where they Rep Virginia

2487
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:30,320
Tech like we had it.
You don't have you don't have

2488
02:08:30,400 --> 02:08:31,720
Jay Lane.
Jay Lane is.

2489
02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:33,400
A Virginia Tech guy.
But you don't have.

2490
02:08:33,400 --> 02:08:36,760
Jay Lane just walking to
Virginia Tech line right now,

2491
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:39,520
coming back to the games and
doing all of that stuff.

2492
02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:41,800
And when they looked at it, they
was like, what was the team?

2493
02:08:42,240 --> 02:08:43,720
You know?
You know what I'm saying?

2494
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:47,120
We got to get back to the we're
putting people in the league and

2495
02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:49,720
then they're looking at Virginia
Tech like we know what.

2496
02:08:49,720 --> 02:08:52,480
We're getting.
When this person comes like Penn

2497
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:54,200
State, I can't.
I can't say that.

2498
02:08:54,920 --> 02:08:57,080
So when Penn State guys go to
the league, they knew what

2499
02:08:57,080 --> 02:08:58,400
they're getting.
Out of them, they know what

2500
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:00,000
they're getting out of Tyler.
Warren, they know what they're

2501
02:09:00,000 --> 02:09:01,120
getting out of thank Quan
Barkley.

2502
02:09:01,440 --> 02:09:04,280
You know, all of the lineman
that's come from Penn State,

2503
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:05,760
they everybody knows what
they're getting.

2504
02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:09,360
When we start getting back to
that, then you open up the door

2505
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:12,240
and people go walk through.
I mean, you start Brett probably

2506
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:14,880
started it because yeah, that's
the way.

2507
02:09:14,920 --> 02:09:17,280
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the way I thought.

2508
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:19,560
You know, Chance Niggins or
Keelan.

2509
02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:20,880
Adams was going to Virginia
Tech.

2510
02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:23,040
Until Brett Price started
pulling kids like that.

2511
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:26,480
I agree.
Hey, Dave, Dave, do me a favor.

2512
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:28,160
I fucking agree.
Hey.

2513
02:09:28,160 --> 02:09:29,200
Dave, listen to me.
Where?

2514
02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:32,120
Are you listening to us at?
What?

2515
02:09:32,120 --> 02:09:39,440
App, YouTube or somewhere else?
Or it's YouTube.

2516
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:42,200
Like mute your.
YouTube in the background

2517
02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:43,640
because you can hear.
Us Live.

2518
02:09:43,640 --> 02:09:44,760
We're getting feedback.
From.

2519
02:09:44,760 --> 02:09:48,240
You so mute the YouTube you'll
you'll still hear us on stream

2520
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:49,800
yard.
You'll be good.

2521
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:54,000
So no, no, no.
But that's the point though

2522
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:56,480
that.
That you made tally is perfect.

2523
02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:58,640
The reason we used to.
Oh, he left.

2524
02:09:58,960 --> 02:10:00,200
He need leave.
No, come back.

2525
02:10:00,200 --> 02:10:01,160
Come back.
I think you.

2526
02:10:01,160 --> 02:10:02,760
Pressed the wrong button.
I think you pressed the wrong

2527
02:10:02,840 --> 02:10:04,240
button.
Hit the wrong button, tally is.

2528
02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:07,000
Right tally is 100.
Percent that Woodford gets that

2529
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:11,040
for you man.
The whole thing is, why did we?

2530
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:13,560
Get them back in the day, Phil.
We were fucking.

2531
02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:15,480
Winning 10 games, we were.
Fucking top ten, bro.

2532
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:18,040
We were winning.
We had, we had an attitude like

2533
02:10:18,040 --> 02:10:19,960
we, we were Virginia Tech.
It was different.

2534
02:10:19,960 --> 02:10:20,720
It was just.
Different.

2535
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:22,800
It's different.
It was exactly, it was

2536
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:26,240
different, it was different, it
was different.

2537
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:29,760
Like I can't explain it any
other way than it was just

2538
02:10:29,760 --> 02:10:31,480
different.
The attitude was different.

2539
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:34,600
The like, you go back in some of
those games, we were knocking

2540
02:10:34,600 --> 02:10:39,720
motherfuckers out and like,
let's hey, we would have had so

2541
02:10:39,720 --> 02:10:42,520
many people ejected, we would
have been able to field a.

2542
02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:44,160
Team.
Somewhere let me say this.

2543
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:48,240
Right.
Let me, let me get this, James.

2544
02:10:48,240 --> 02:10:50,520
Franklin said it best.
When he said it to the players,

2545
02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:55,600
Virginia Tech was a sexy team.
They were taking names and

2546
02:10:55,600 --> 02:10:58,680
whipping ass and that's what we
got to get back to.

2547
02:10:59,160 --> 02:11:03,960
I'm telling you without
question, that's what they going

2548
02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:05,720
to get back to.
That's what we need, whipping

2549
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:09,520
ass and and that will bring
everything.

2550
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:11,960
That they.
Want all the money we talked

2551
02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:16,480
about this $20 million gift that
was gotten this money they talk

2552
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:19,440
about and that's going to get
there is a.

2553
02:11:19,440 --> 02:11:22,560
Faction.
Of this fan base I'm I'm an

2554
02:11:22,560 --> 02:11:27,440
outsider just recently here
there's a faction this fan base

2555
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:30,840
that didn't like the way that
Frank got sent out of here

2556
02:11:31,120 --> 02:11:36,320
because they he to them he built
it he should maybe go out the

2557
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:40,240
same way Jay Joe Paul went out
the same way Bear Bryant went

2558
02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:44,280
out he should he didn't get that
opportunity and they held their

2559
02:11:44,280 --> 02:11:49,040
money back Franklin gives them
the cachet I'm telling you the

2560
02:11:49,040 --> 02:11:52,400
reason why Pryor is out because
they were not going to give him

2561
02:11:52,400 --> 02:11:55,600
that money to be able to do the
different things he need to be

2562
02:11:55,600 --> 02:11:58,200
able to do They were willing to
give that to Franklin because he

2563
02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:01,240
had the cachet well he's a
professional he's a professional

2564
02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:04,880
like he's a professional no, no,
he no that's.

2565
02:12:05,040 --> 02:12:07,160
It looks like compared to what
we did have, he's.

2566
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:09,400
A straight professor?
No, I think he he.

2567
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:12,440
He's he's had enough time on
task at the.

2568
02:12:12,440 --> 02:12:16,400
Job See, I don't want to take
away from Brent Private.

2569
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:19,840
He wasn't professional.
He had enough time on task on

2570
02:12:19,840 --> 02:12:24,440
the job to be able to decipher
let me let my coordinators do

2571
02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:28,720
what they need to do and I do my
part and get us to the next

2572
02:12:28,720 --> 02:12:31,640
level.
His problem was he was fighting

2573
02:12:31,640 --> 02:12:35,880
giants like Ohio State, Michigan
to get to that next step.

2574
02:12:36,120 --> 02:12:37,680
He ain't got those giants over
here.

2575
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:41,480
He might have a he might have a
Clemson, he might have a Florida

2576
02:12:41,480 --> 02:12:46,040
State and he might have a Miami.
But he can, he can situate and

2577
02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:50,440
he can maneuver around that nine
games is your, is your, is your,

2578
02:12:50,680 --> 02:12:56,880
is your floor 9 games is your
floor 9 games, nine games of

2579
02:12:56,880 --> 02:13:00,600
money.
We'll 4 the fuck 9 games we

2580
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:05,160
weren't in the 6th we we've
learned in Blacksburg down.

2581
02:13:06,960 --> 02:13:07,920
But we know.
Our.

2582
02:13:07,960 --> 02:13:09,080
Schedule.
We don't.

2583
02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:12,880
We know who we're playing, but
we don't know our schedule.

2584
02:13:12,880 --> 02:13:15,040
Yet I mean God.
Damn, we will.

2585
02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:18,000
Literally.
I mean dude, 9 games we'll burn.

2586
02:13:18,240 --> 02:13:21,640
Hey, listen, Tony Elliott got a
contract extension off.

2587
02:13:21,640 --> 02:13:25,240
Of 10 games and.
What he did you, you got a

2588
02:13:25,280 --> 02:13:27,480
lifetime contract.
That who, man?

2589
02:13:27,720 --> 02:13:30,040
You turn around.
We get to Charlotte this year

2590
02:13:30,120 --> 02:13:31,720
when when we get to Charlotte
this.

2591
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:34,760
Year.
We're at the Midnight Bar, we're

2592
02:13:34,760 --> 02:13:36,840
at the Midnight Cafe.
I'm going to put some money on

2593
02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:40,720
me when me, Dan and whoever
else.

2594
02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:43,360
Assassin show up at the Midnight
Cafe in Charlotte.

2595
02:13:43,600 --> 02:13:47,520
If we make the match, if we make
the if we make Charlotte you.

2596
02:13:48,280 --> 02:13:50,520
You and me, we will be there
together.

2597
02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:56,760
I'm always.
Down to go home let's.

2598
02:13:57,040 --> 02:13:59,200
Go you think about this though
for.

2599
02:13:59,200 --> 02:14:02,400
Real for real let.
Me say this so.

2600
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:05,600
Feel I know you're pretty
involved with Virginia Tech

2601
02:14:05,600 --> 02:14:06,680
sports.
And.

2602
02:14:07,160 --> 02:14:09,560
I don't know your pockets, I
don't know how much you give and

2603
02:14:09,560 --> 02:14:12,520
all of that, but I give a little
bit, right?

2604
02:14:13,320 --> 02:14:15,760
I have give and and I show up to
shit.

2605
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:18,840
You know, I didn't show up to
anything this year.

2606
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:22,480
I didn't give anything this year
because I wasn't invested in the

2607
02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:27,240
program we went to.
We went to Atlanta twice, which

2608
02:14:27,240 --> 02:14:30,080
is 3 hours away from me and
everybody was like talent, I

2609
02:14:30,080 --> 02:14:31,000
don't want to see you in
Atlanta.

2610
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:33,160
I was like, no, you're not.
I'm not going to Atlanta.

2611
02:14:33,160 --> 02:14:34,840
Why would I go and waste my
money and time?

2612
02:14:35,200 --> 02:14:37,600
Because I knew I knew what this
year was right.

2613
02:14:38,200 --> 02:14:42,920
So with that being said, I'm not
saying it's all about money, but

2614
02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:50,160
think about what you as a donor
feel with just what we have so

2615
02:14:50,160 --> 02:14:53,920
far.
We ain't even done nothing yet.

2616
02:14:54,400 --> 02:14:57,240
And and I'm already like.
Let me go ahead.

2617
02:14:57,240 --> 02:15:00,320
And get my 1 here, almost $50
here.

2618
02:15:00,520 --> 02:15:02,560
Let me go ahead and get ready
for the spring game, right?

2619
02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:05,960
Let me go ahead and contribute,
think about what's going to

2620
02:15:05,960 --> 02:15:10,560
happen when we go out here and
then this portal comes through

2621
02:15:10,560 --> 02:15:14,680
because he he did this in the he
did this in the high school

2622
02:15:14,680 --> 02:15:16,480
ranks.
He's going to go get some portal

2623
02:15:16,480 --> 02:15:18,840
guys.
And then he's putting together a

2624
02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:20,960
really good staff.
I said really good staff.

2625
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:23,600
Let's wait next to, but he's
putting together a solid staff,

2626
02:15:23,600 --> 02:15:28,320
right?
OK, so wait, wait, aside from

2627
02:15:28,920 --> 02:15:33,680
like personally and like.
Aside from his like main bosses

2628
02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:37,480
of offensive and defensive
coordinator, I feel great about

2629
02:15:37,480 --> 02:15:40,600
everybody below that.
Everybody below that I'm

2630
02:15:40,600 --> 02:15:44,400
confident in Brent Pryor.
You know how I feel about him.

2631
02:15:44,600 --> 02:15:46,760
But wait, you know how I feel
about Brent Pryor and I don't

2632
02:15:46,760 --> 02:15:51,680
know about Tyler Bowen AI
version yet, but I'm going to

2633
02:15:51,680 --> 02:15:56,600
need to see because they are
literally like the AI original

2634
02:15:56,600 --> 02:15:59,920
version three years ago of each
other by pitcher.

2635
02:16:00,160 --> 02:16:02,400
Like they are like that is not
Tyler Bowen.

2636
02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:06,080
That is Ty the other guy, Ty,
Hallie like that.

2637
02:16:06,680 --> 02:16:08,680
Sorry, I can't keep shit
together right now.

2638
02:16:08,960 --> 02:16:12,360
Just thinking about it.
If you all can put them

2639
02:16:12,360 --> 02:16:15,200
together, it's not right.
Like something's wrong,

2640
02:16:15,560 --> 02:16:18,280
something's not right.
But I agree with us.

2641
02:16:18,480 --> 02:16:21,000
I agree.
I agree, although there was the

2642
02:16:21,000 --> 02:16:23,200
story that he didn't want Andy.
Kolenecki.

2643
02:16:23,520 --> 02:16:26,440
Two years ago, he wanted Ty to
be his OC.

2644
02:16:26,640 --> 02:16:28,840
Couldn't have told him to shave
his fucking beard though.

2645
02:16:28,880 --> 02:16:30,400
Sweet.
That didn't look like our last

2646
02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:32,840
guy.
Come on man, shave your beard.

2647
02:16:33,080 --> 02:16:35,959
Sorry, do a good team.
Do a man look man?

2648
02:16:36,080 --> 02:16:38,120
We're not shitting.
We're not shitting on beards.

2649
02:16:38,600 --> 02:16:39,840
Phil, we're not shitting on
beards.

2650
02:16:39,840 --> 02:16:44,480
Let's not shit on beards.
Some of us work really hard.

2651
02:16:44,680 --> 02:16:50,520
Sacrifice over there.
You chose to mute yourself.

2652
02:16:50,520 --> 02:16:51,920
Phil, I tried to unmute you
minute.

2653
02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:58,360
Mute.
Moving around the horn at the.

2654
02:16:58,440 --> 02:16:59,440
Party, right?
Now.

2655
02:17:01,400 --> 02:17:02,920
I don't know if that's.
Behind the horn thing.

2656
02:17:02,920 --> 02:17:06,000
I'm doing it myself.
Hey.

2657
02:17:06,520 --> 02:17:08,680
I got AI, got a quick question
before we go for it.

2658
02:17:09,559 --> 02:17:11,719
Did did Jeremy?
Decide to come and show up

2659
02:17:11,719 --> 02:17:16,480
tonight or no So Jeremy had was
the last minute tap out his

2660
02:17:16,680 --> 02:17:18,320
wife.
Is Uber, He's got a very

2661
02:17:18,320 --> 02:17:21,559
pregnant wife and he had the had
the last minute tap out.

2662
02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:23,959
I was, I was, I was very
distraught.

2663
02:17:24,400 --> 02:17:26,719
But he's like, I'm going to be
back next year.

2664
02:17:26,959 --> 02:17:28,600
Full.
Force I have.

2665
02:17:28,639 --> 02:17:32,040
I have missed going there.
I have missed going to.

2666
02:17:32,040 --> 02:17:36,520
There going to pharmacy three
times going to games man I just

2667
02:17:36,520 --> 02:17:40,799
want to go in there and get that
dude a hug during game before

2668
02:17:40,799 --> 02:17:42,559
game day but I want to make sure
I.

2669
02:17:42,680 --> 02:17:44,040
Get to the cheer and get my
dude.

2670
02:17:44,040 --> 02:17:45,280
A hug I.
Love that man.

2671
02:17:45,639 --> 02:17:47,520
He is.
He is like one of the one of the

2672
02:17:47,520 --> 02:17:48,760
best things I've lived there,
man.

2673
02:17:50,040 --> 02:17:51,719
He'll.
Give you give you the shirt off

2674
02:17:51,719 --> 02:17:53,240
his back, he'll.
He'll, He'll do.

2675
02:17:53,400 --> 02:17:55,160
Anything man, he's a good dude
man.

2676
02:17:55,400 --> 02:17:58,120
Joe Jeremy counts.
Jeremy Counts saved my kids

2677
02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:01,200
life.
Literally and the.

2678
02:18:01,320 --> 02:18:04,040
Crazy thing is.
Me and Brian when we started.

2679
02:18:04,040 --> 02:18:06,120
Talking to him, he came.
Sponsoring everything.

2680
02:18:06,120 --> 02:18:10,320
We started chatting with him.
He married a girl that was from

2681
02:18:10,320 --> 02:18:12,639
our hometown.
She was in high school when

2682
02:18:12,639 --> 02:18:16,280
Brian was high school and
everybody's like big ass world

2683
02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:19,280
ain't a big ass world.
It's a small ass world.

2684
02:18:20,799 --> 02:18:22,719
That was crazy because I'm like,
Brian, did you know her?

2685
02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:24,799
The world's tiny.
I mean, then we found.

2686
02:18:24,799 --> 02:18:28,559
Out, Sheldon.
His, his family got a got got a

2687
02:18:28,559 --> 02:18:32,799
spot up in in Lexington.
No Vernon, Vernon Hill.

2688
02:18:33,160 --> 02:18:35,280
Vernon Hill.
He's got a spot in Vernon Hill.

2689
02:18:35,600 --> 02:18:38,520
His dad went, I think something
with BMI.

2690
02:18:38,639 --> 02:18:40,799
Shelton went to BMI for two
years or something.

2691
02:18:41,520 --> 02:18:42,760
Where the hell is Sheldon
tonight?

2692
02:18:44,040 --> 02:18:45,719
The show went to.
His dad went to.

2693
02:18:45,719 --> 02:18:47,480
BMI his dad.
Went to BMI, Dad went.

2694
02:18:48,040 --> 02:18:50,639
To BMI and I'm then it's over.
He should have given.

2695
02:18:50,639 --> 02:18:51,959
Anxiety Medicine.
At a.

2696
02:18:52,040 --> 02:18:56,400
Discount for tech.
Fans for the last fucking five

2697
02:18:56,400 --> 02:18:58,520
years, man.
You know what?

2698
02:18:58,520 --> 02:19:00,520
The My favorite part about
having Jeremy on is.

2699
02:19:00,520 --> 02:19:01,000
I get.
I get.

2700
02:19:01,040 --> 02:19:04,200
I get to do.
The he pays the bills, he fills

2701
02:19:04,200 --> 02:19:08,000
the pills like sign on me.
Do you know why I went to BMI?

2702
02:19:08,559 --> 02:19:11,160
Why is that?
Because.

2703
02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:14,160
I got rejected by.
Virginia Tech.

2704
02:19:17,799 --> 02:19:22,080
Certainly.
My dad's parents.

2705
02:19:22,080 --> 02:19:26,120
My dad's family went to V, went
to Virginia Tech and I was like

2706
02:19:26,120 --> 02:19:29,840
all right, fuck y'all, I'm going
to VMI and I can feel my

2707
02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:34,520
grandfather rolling the grave as
I went to VMI.

2708
02:19:35,559 --> 02:19:39,639
They got accepted Virginia Tech.
When you were at VMI, did you

2709
02:19:39,639 --> 02:19:42,920
play Virginia Tech?
Thanksgiving.

2710
02:19:43,040 --> 02:19:44,799
Ever.
No.

2711
02:19:45,400 --> 02:19:47,559
When am I that old?
Well, I looked at old.

2712
02:19:47,680 --> 02:19:48,360
The end.
Of the.

2713
02:19:48,559 --> 02:19:50,560
Season.
Well, I looked at old.

2714
02:19:51,040 --> 02:19:53,680
Well, I can't tell the Internet.
'S it's fuzzy.

2715
02:19:53,920 --> 02:19:55,640
I'm on that one.
They said the.

2716
02:19:55,720 --> 02:19:59,120
Internet is hammered.
Phil and Eric are about the.

2717
02:19:59,120 --> 02:20:01,600
Same number of drinks deep I
think.

2718
02:20:03,800 --> 02:20:08,760
What year?
I went in 9790. 8.

2719
02:20:09,960 --> 02:20:10,960
OK.
All right.

2720
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:15,200
So I'm about I'm.
I'm a little older than.

2721
02:20:15,200 --> 02:20:19,840
Y'all than most of the.
Guys here, yeah, not, not too

2722
02:20:19,880 --> 02:20:22,480
much older than us.
You got about seven years on us

2723
02:20:22,480 --> 02:20:26,040
in fucking.
Drunken no wait 9795 was drunken

2724
02:20:26,040 --> 02:20:29,880
mother and 97 was.
The the the Orange Bowl, we got

2725
02:20:29,880 --> 02:20:31,560
our ass handed over us in
Nebraska.

2726
02:20:32,800 --> 02:20:36,200
Well, we beat Miami that year
because I was at BMI and we.

2727
02:20:36,200 --> 02:20:40,800
Beat them 16 nothing after going
O and two you know I knew we

2728
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:43,080
were fucked in that.
Orange Bowl against Nebraska.

2729
02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:44,840
I was there.
It was called Joe Robbie

2730
02:20:44,840 --> 02:20:47,400
Stadium.
The tech Busters rolled through.

2731
02:20:47,400 --> 02:20:50,440
There was two of them.
Whoo go Hokies, let's go 2

2732
02:20:50,440 --> 02:20:52,680
buses.
The Nebraska buses roll by.

2733
02:20:52,680 --> 02:20:57,560
There were five of them.
The entire sideline was full of

2734
02:20:57,560 --> 02:21:02,960
Nebraska corn fed, white ass,
big ass motherfuckers that if

2735
02:21:02,960 --> 02:21:07,160
they were in this world, in NIL
world would have been dispersed

2736
02:21:07,480 --> 02:21:11,120
making a million and a half
dollars each across the fucking

2737
02:21:11,120 --> 02:21:14,160
country all over.
They would have been making

2738
02:21:14,160 --> 02:21:16,360
money.
But no, they were walk ONS

2739
02:21:16,680 --> 02:21:20,360
because they decided I don't
want to be a backup player

2740
02:21:20,360 --> 02:21:24,240
Michigan.
I want to walk on at Nebraska

2741
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:28,280
because it's fucking Nebraska.
It's the stupidest shit ever.

2742
02:21:28,600 --> 02:21:30,800
Fuck, it's the dumbest shit
ever.

2743
02:21:30,840 --> 02:21:33,760
And and this is the last thing.
All right, I'm going to mute

2744
02:21:33,760 --> 02:21:37,440
myself again.
We have a running back on our

2745
02:21:37,440 --> 02:21:39,360
team.
I forgot his name but he may or

2746
02:21:39,360 --> 02:21:42,880
may not have been accused of
rape and he was not.

2747
02:21:43,600 --> 02:21:47,360
But he was at the Game 5 rows in
front of me on the corner of.

2748
02:21:47,360 --> 02:21:50,960
Joe Rivie Stadium.
We drove to Miami mute for one

2749
02:21:50,960 --> 02:21:58,360
minute.
Oh.

2750
02:22:00,280 --> 02:22:05,440
God, wow.
Oh God, I love you guys.

2751
02:22:07,200 --> 02:22:08,800
I'm going to walk on to
Nebraska.

2752
02:22:09,640 --> 02:22:10,800
Hey.
Hey, you know.

2753
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:14,000
What?
Hey, Lavar, liked that one.

2754
02:22:14,000 --> 02:22:15,720
I like.
That I like that we're trying to

2755
02:22:15,720 --> 02:22:16,640
get Chris.
Back on here.

2756
02:22:16,640 --> 02:22:18,320
He's just spinning here.
He's spinning.

2757
02:22:18,320 --> 02:22:20,400
He got Tally in her now.
Right now.

2758
02:22:20,720 --> 02:22:23,920
Nebraska had a bunch of Nebraska
had a bunch of Lassiters from

2759
02:22:23,920 --> 02:22:24,680
the.
Program on.

2760
02:22:24,680 --> 02:22:25,640
That on that.
Team.

2761
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:30,600
Hey, yes, I met I met Ron and
Tally.

2762
02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:35,680
And Dan and Vanderbilt.
Oh, sure.

2763
02:22:36,200 --> 02:22:38,640
Yes, Sir, It was a good time.
It was a good time until it.

2764
02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:43,960
Wasn't I got I got a sunburn and
a broken heart in.

2765
02:22:43,960 --> 02:22:49,080
That in that stadium.
Look at the 9 pieces and a

2766
02:22:49,560 --> 02:22:51,080
liver.
Yeah.

2767
02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:53,960
My heart grew.
Like the Grinches and then was

2768
02:22:54,360 --> 02:22:56,560
ripped out of my body and.
Bit.

2769
02:22:56,760 --> 02:23:02,920
In 2, but I met Tally.
I met Tally at the Grievous

2770
02:23:02,960 --> 02:23:03,720
basket.
Grievous.

2771
02:23:03,760 --> 02:23:06,520
Baskets Minute, minute, minute,
minute time out.

2772
02:23:07,640 --> 02:23:09,120
Fuck Grievous.
I met Tally.

2773
02:23:09,160 --> 02:23:10,920
I met Tally at the Purdue game.
Whoa, you.

2774
02:23:12,160 --> 02:23:14,000
Met.
How did we not meet you for the

2775
02:23:14,240 --> 02:23:16,720
game?
Well, I.

2776
02:23:16,720 --> 02:23:18,760
Didn't meet him, but he came
down.

2777
02:23:19,000 --> 02:23:21,080
Came down.
He came down in the South end.

2778
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:23,680
Zone.
He came down in the South end

2779
02:23:23,680 --> 02:23:25,120
zone with nothing but an orange
on.

2780
02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:27,000
I was like.
Damn it, that's.

2781
02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:32,480
Talent.
My wife is like.

2782
02:23:32,480 --> 02:23:34,240
How do all these people?
Know you when we go.

2783
02:23:34,240 --> 02:23:35,880
Places I'm like I look a little
bit different.

2784
02:23:38,920 --> 02:23:40,200
Than those people because you're
a podcast guy.

2785
02:23:40,200 --> 02:23:40,760
Oh.
Shit.

2786
02:23:45,320 --> 02:23:47,560
Man, I'm.
Excited about the spring game is

2787
02:23:47,560 --> 02:23:49,920
everybody.
Going I'll be at the spring.

2788
02:23:49,920 --> 02:23:51,320
Game I'm going to be there with
Belle Draw.

2789
02:23:53,200 --> 02:23:54,160
Are we playing?
Are we?

2790
02:23:54,280 --> 02:23:55,440
Playing VMI?
I'll do that.

2791
02:23:56,880 --> 02:23:58,560
We should play VMI.
At the Spring game, yeah, we

2792
02:23:58,560 --> 02:24:00,400
should play VMI.
Let's just.

2793
02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:01,800
Move VMI out.
Of the spring.

2794
02:24:02,120 --> 02:24:03,680
There we go.
That's what needs to.

2795
02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:05,000
Happen little warm.
Up little.

2796
02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:06,840
Warm up you talk about.
We all talked.

2797
02:24:06,840 --> 02:24:10,360
About the bowl games earlier,
it's like bowl games are a joke

2798
02:24:10,360 --> 02:24:12,400
now.
They're now the discussion is

2799
02:24:12,400 --> 02:24:14,360
are they going to move bowl
games to the beginning of the

2800
02:24:14,360 --> 02:24:17,120
season?
That Cal Hawaii game was

2801
02:24:17,120 --> 02:24:19,720
literally an MMA fight like it
was.

2802
02:24:20,720 --> 02:24:22,920
Like I hate you.
You hate.

2803
02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:26,800
You won't schedule me.
I won't schedule you.

2804
02:24:26,800 --> 02:24:29,160
Damn it, I hate.
You like it was a lot of.

2805
02:24:29,160 --> 02:24:31,000
Punching going on in that.
Game, it was great.

2806
02:24:31,240 --> 02:24:34,120
How would the logistics work if
you moved the ball game to the

2807
02:24:34,120 --> 02:24:36,600
beginning of the year?
Well, how many?

2808
02:24:36,680 --> 02:24:37,440
How many?
Damn.

2809
02:24:37,440 --> 02:24:39,360
Games are they put off site
anyway?

2810
02:24:40,440 --> 02:24:43,800
But I mean like, no, I mean like
with deciding who plays in them.

2811
02:24:44,480 --> 02:24:48,800
I think it's just what did all
go wrong with DCS I think.

2812
02:24:48,800 --> 02:24:50,120
It's just.
All right, because like.

2813
02:24:50,160 --> 02:24:52,440
If you move into the beginning,
I mean literally.

2814
02:24:52,480 --> 02:24:55,680
There are three games on
back-to-back to back like

2815
02:24:55,680 --> 02:24:58,440
there's nothing on today.
Like what are you going to

2816
02:24:58,440 --> 02:24:59,600
watch?
What are you going to watch

2817
02:24:59,600 --> 02:25:02,360
Christmas in Connecticut on the
Hallmark Channel for the third

2818
02:25:02,360 --> 02:25:03,680
time, Like, oh, you're going to
watch.

2819
02:25:03,760 --> 02:25:06,320
You're going to watch Western
Kentucky.

2820
02:25:06,320 --> 02:25:09,160
Place Western Michigan in the.
Chicken Bowl.

2821
02:25:09,520 --> 02:25:11,600
While you camera bearding.
Yeah.

2822
02:25:11,920 --> 02:25:14,120
While your wife yells at you for
not.

2823
02:25:14,120 --> 02:25:15,960
Cleaning up the Christmas shit
quicker.

2824
02:25:16,360 --> 02:25:18,680
Like.
Literally that's the bowl full

2825
02:25:18,680 --> 02:25:20,720
season.
That is the ball season.

2826
02:25:20,720 --> 02:25:23,080
It's great.
Kind of ridiculous.

2827
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:25,120
I don't know.
What do you think?

2828
02:25:25,120 --> 02:25:26,560
I don't know how you do it in
the beginning.

2829
02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:28,200
I think that's a great plan in
the beginning.

2830
02:25:28,200 --> 02:25:30,640
Of the season I do.
I think that's awesome.

2831
02:25:30,640 --> 02:25:34,440
But like you can't tell people
the games don't count.

2832
02:25:36,000 --> 02:25:37,880
You can't can't tell that
anymore.

2833
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:39,920
I got a fake out this.
Isn't real.

2834
02:25:39,920 --> 02:25:41,280
It's like.
Got the idea I'm.

2835
02:25:42,200 --> 02:25:43,080
Hammering, I got the.
Idea.

2836
02:25:43,120 --> 02:25:45,720
Hold on everybody, be quiet.
I got the idea.

2837
02:25:45,720 --> 02:25:48,920
No.
Every season, OK, everybody

2838
02:25:48,920 --> 02:25:51,760
pitches about how everybody.
Pitches about how?

2839
02:25:52,080 --> 02:25:54,320
Well, we don't get.
To hit anybody until the 1st

2840
02:25:54,320 --> 02:25:56,120
week of the season.
Well, mother fucker, we're going

2841
02:25:56,120 --> 02:25:58,720
to put this two weeks before the
1st week of the season.

2842
02:25:59,040 --> 02:26:00,960
Go out and hit somebody in
Orlando.

2843
02:26:00,960 --> 02:26:06,320
I don't know, we're going to go
tear the ACL from the council.

2844
02:26:06,320 --> 02:26:06,840
Yeah, hold on.
Hold.

2845
02:26:07,160 --> 02:26:10,320
On but the FBT goes back to the
NFL.

2846
02:26:10,320 --> 02:26:12,560
Because a lot of the big.
Guys played in the NFL.

2847
02:26:12,560 --> 02:26:16,120
Pre season they even alright so
but but that's weird because

2848
02:26:16,120 --> 02:26:20,120
like the team that earned the
bowl isn't the team playing in

2849
02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:23,360
the bowl don't matter.
It's ratings, it's TD.

2850
02:26:23,360 --> 02:26:26,560
I get that, but like, it's still
funky to be man.

2851
02:26:27,280 --> 02:26:35,960
What if?
We still I'm pretty sure drones

2852
02:26:35,960 --> 02:26:37,760
would have sat out and for
preparation.

2853
02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:40,760
For the, for the, for the draft.
What if?

2854
02:26:41,320 --> 02:26:44,280
What if we let the BCS decide
the 12 team playoff?

2855
02:26:44,560 --> 02:26:49,040
Yeah, I'm with that, the BCS, I
would much prefer that.

2856
02:26:49,560 --> 02:26:52,640
Selection committee because.
The problem with the BCS.

2857
02:26:52,640 --> 02:26:55,360
Wasn't that they got it wrong
consistently is that there

2858
02:26:55,360 --> 02:26:58,560
wasn't enough teams for them to
get it right because they were

2859
02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:01,800
only picking 2.
If UVA had won, would Miami have

2860
02:27:01,800 --> 02:27:02,600
still?
Been in.

2861
02:27:03,160 --> 02:27:06,400
Got the better have been.
Yes, they would have gotten more

2862
02:27:06,440 --> 02:27:09,040
DML better have been UVA fucked
up again.

2863
02:27:09,040 --> 02:27:10,040
Yeah, and.
And and.

2864
02:27:10,040 --> 02:27:12,560
So.
And and we we could even build.

2865
02:27:12,560 --> 02:27:15,640
Automatic bids.
Into that you can even build

2866
02:27:15,640 --> 02:27:18,320
automatic bids into that if you
want to keep automatic bids game

2867
02:27:18,320 --> 02:27:20,200
this year if you looked at it
would have been perfect.

2868
02:27:20,680 --> 02:27:26,440
Hey, I just want to take I'll
take Texas. 1st or no Georgia

2869
02:27:26,440 --> 02:27:30,680
versus Vanderbilt, man.
Georgia, who did not play each

2870
02:27:30,680 --> 02:27:32,600
other this year.
I'll take that.

2871
02:27:32,600 --> 02:27:35,720
All.
Fucking day over the bullshit

2872
02:27:35,720 --> 02:27:39,440
games that played during the NFL
game in my lifetime.

2873
02:27:39,480 --> 02:27:42,480
I just want Virginia Tech to
play at the Rose Bowl one time.

2874
02:27:42,680 --> 02:27:43,440
I just.
Want to?

2875
02:27:43,560 --> 02:27:47,400
See Virginia Tech.
That is the hey, he's.

2876
02:27:47,440 --> 02:27:49,280
Going to college, that's going
to.

2877
02:27:49,280 --> 02:27:52,720
Be the.
I'll say this, it's not if.

2878
02:27:53,040 --> 02:27:56,240
Hopefully when that happens,
that's going to be the crushing

2879
02:27:56,240 --> 02:27:58,920
of the credit cards.
We're going to college.

2880
02:27:59,440 --> 02:28:01,040
Me and Phil won't care what I
want to say.

2881
02:28:01,120 --> 02:28:02,440
We'll just play out together.
You.

2882
02:28:02,440 --> 02:28:03,400
Know when?
That'll happen.

2883
02:28:03,400 --> 02:28:05,640
That'll be the one.
Time there's fucking preseason.

2884
02:28:05,640 --> 02:28:07,200
Bowl games, we'll be.
Playing in the fucking.

2885
02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:09,920
Poinsettia Bowl in the fucking
Rose Bowl.

2886
02:28:11,840 --> 02:28:14,680
I'm in.
I'm in playing against.

2887
02:28:14,960 --> 02:28:18,200
Aaron Rodgers.
I'm definitely going to Dallas

2888
02:28:18,320 --> 02:28:20,600
this year.
As hell yeah I want to go to

2889
02:28:20,600 --> 02:28:21,680
Dallas for.
Basketball.

2890
02:28:21,680 --> 02:28:24,280
Soon that's the all that's best
who's going to college I.

2891
02:28:24,800 --> 02:28:28,360
Can go to shit No I Dallas like
the.

2892
02:28:28,360 --> 02:28:31,000
Road to look like.
If I was retired or just

2893
02:28:31,000 --> 02:28:33,800
retired, the road trips would be
fucking epic.

2894
02:28:34,280 --> 02:28:37,720
Oh bam epic.
I'm not retired and I'm going to

2895
02:28:37,720 --> 02:28:38,800
Cali.
Let's go.

2896
02:28:39,400 --> 02:28:42,680
Hey.
Eric said Hey Cali, let's go

2897
02:28:42,680 --> 02:28:44,240
baby.
One flight.

2898
02:28:44,600 --> 02:28:47,960
That's what the answer.
So I don't know, fight back.

2899
02:28:49,160 --> 02:28:51,920
I don't know, we got.
A big basketball.

2900
02:28:51,920 --> 02:28:54,040
Game coming up soon.
It's going to define our.

2901
02:28:54,040 --> 02:28:54,880
I'm going to.
Be there.

2902
02:28:54,880 --> 02:28:57,360
Literally, I'm going.
To say you right now, it will

2903
02:28:57,360 --> 02:28:59,640
literally define.
Our entire.

2904
02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:03,400
Season how we do in that game
you going to be playing in that

2905
02:29:03,480 --> 02:29:12,320
game I've seen I'm going I'm
going to be I'm going to be in

2906
02:29:12,320 --> 02:29:18,440
the castle guard and UV tech to.
Be Eva fucking bullshit.

2907
02:29:18,480 --> 02:29:21,840
Our students aren't there.
Let's go How does that happen?

2908
02:29:22,440 --> 02:29:24,040
It's a huge game.
It's the.

2909
02:29:24,040 --> 02:29:25,360
Biggest, it's even.
Blacksburg, huh?

2910
02:29:25,400 --> 02:29:28,600
It's a big game.
Stupidity go about a good

2911
02:29:28,600 --> 02:29:30,560
schedule.
Nowadays is that.

2912
02:29:30,560 --> 02:29:32,280
Game.
Is.

2913
02:29:32,920 --> 02:29:35,840
Darren fucking no students are
there.

2914
02:29:36,280 --> 02:29:38,600
We get a trade off though.
The last game of the season is

2915
02:29:38,600 --> 02:29:40,280
at UVA and they don't have their
students.

2916
02:29:40,280 --> 02:29:43,120
Here, because it's spring break,
they'll all be at Kenny

2917
02:29:43,120 --> 02:29:47,240
Punkport.
Kenny Punkport up in Maine.

2918
02:29:47,360 --> 02:29:51,600
I'll be at Napa Napa.
I'm drinking Zema.

2919
02:29:52,040 --> 02:29:53,920
Zema.
They got good Zema.

2920
02:29:53,960 --> 02:29:58,040
Now, oh man, always.
Is.

2921
02:29:58,040 --> 02:30:00,120
Entertaining.
I think that's a.

2922
02:30:00,120 --> 02:30:02,040
Great idea about state of the
program.

2923
02:30:02,040 --> 02:30:04,320
I think you need to do a state
of the program after the spring.

2924
02:30:04,320 --> 02:30:09,160
Game honestly, because, like,
nobody knows how we know good

2925
02:30:09,160 --> 02:30:11,520
about right now.
Yeah, we, we, we.

2926
02:30:11,560 --> 02:30:13,360
Do a little bit of a We do a
little bit.

2927
02:30:13,360 --> 02:30:15,680
Of pull back in after we we do
the spring.

2928
02:30:15,680 --> 02:30:19,040
Game we do.
We do a live post game at Maroon

2929
02:30:19,040 --> 02:30:23,680
Door and we yell fuck.
We yeah, we, no, we don't yell

2930
02:30:23,680 --> 02:30:24,600
fuck.
Brian yells.

2931
02:30:24,600 --> 02:30:27,640
Fuck, apparently.
And then Brian, Brian's wife,

2932
02:30:27,640 --> 02:30:31,120
puts a little note up that says
you're saying fuck a lot.

2933
02:30:31,960 --> 02:30:35,880
He says fuck a lot.
It's not going to say fuck a

2934
02:30:35,880 --> 02:30:38,200
lot, say fuck a lot at the
maroon door.

2935
02:30:38,200 --> 02:30:40,560
With like no you.
Say fuck a lot.

2936
02:30:40,840 --> 02:30:42,360
Young children sitting in the
yard.

2937
02:30:42,360 --> 02:30:44,240
I play fuck with you on Thursday
nights.

2938
02:30:44,240 --> 02:30:47,360
You say fuck a lot.
Again.

2939
02:30:47,360 --> 02:30:49,840
But that's not.
A problem there, That's not a

2940
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:51,640
problem.
There at the maroon.

2941
02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:55,680
Door at 3:45 Hey, this is what
you get when you get.

2942
02:30:55,920 --> 02:30:58,920
This is what you get when you
get 2.

2943
02:30:58,920 --> 02:31:02,120
Halifax guys in the same room.
It is.

2944
02:31:02,600 --> 02:31:05,400
Yeah, yeah, pretty much, pretty
much.

2945
02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:07,880
Man 30 plus.
Years, Eric, you don't

2946
02:31:07,880 --> 02:31:11,480
understand. 30.
Plus years of this, it's how

2947
02:31:11,480 --> 02:31:12,880
long we've known each other,
right?

2948
02:31:12,920 --> 02:31:15,360
I've always said fuck.
I've always.

2949
02:31:16,120 --> 02:31:18,600
Said fuck, hey, I'm.
I know we give.

2950
02:31:18,600 --> 02:31:19,440
We're going to have to get
ready.

2951
02:31:19,440 --> 02:31:19,960
To.
Wrap it up.

2952
02:31:19,960 --> 02:31:22,120
I'm going to throw this out.
I'm going to start with Curtis.

2953
02:31:22,560 --> 02:31:25,960
See what he got to say.
Good portal.

2954
02:31:26,200 --> 02:31:28,720
Portal is going to open up.
January.

2955
02:31:28,720 --> 02:31:33,440
The second, OK.
And you got, I'm going to say

2956
02:31:33,480 --> 02:31:36,480
you got $5,000,000 to spend.
I know we got more than that as

2957
02:31:36,480 --> 02:31:39,240
a team, but they giving Curtis
$5,000,000 to spend.

2958
02:31:39,680 --> 02:31:42,440
What are you going to take that
5 million and spend it on?

2959
02:31:43,320 --> 02:31:46,480
I'm going to spend it on the
following five items.

2960
02:31:46,480 --> 02:31:47,840
Give them $1,000,000.
Each.

2961
02:31:48,680 --> 02:31:53,680
Best left tackle Find me the
best 2 defensive ends.

2962
02:31:55,800 --> 02:31:59,880
I want 1D tackle and.
Then I'll take a guard.

2963
02:32:00,520 --> 02:32:03,200
Because I do believe.
Somebody like Johnny Garrett

2964
02:32:03,200 --> 02:32:04,720
can.
Hold down the right tackle spot.

2965
02:32:06,240 --> 02:32:09,800
That's my, that's my spots
because you got you got to spend

2966
02:32:09,800 --> 02:32:11,160
more than a million on.
Them on the.

2967
02:32:11,280 --> 02:32:13,920
Defensive ends, but I I.
Understand where you're going.

2968
02:32:13,920 --> 02:32:17,040
Well, I think I can balance it
regarding you D tackle, the D

2969
02:32:17,040 --> 02:32:19,680
tackle in there.
So that's what I'm asking.

2970
02:32:21,720 --> 02:32:23,400
Give if if it's.
Just my 5.

2971
02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:25,080
Million.
I got 1. 5 million.

2972
02:32:26,440 --> 02:32:34,200
Give me a $2 billion quarterback
and the best tackle and interior

2973
02:32:34,200 --> 02:32:37,400
offensive lineman you can find.
We'll figure.

2974
02:32:37,400 --> 02:32:39,320
We'll figure the rest out with
the rest of the money.

2975
02:32:39,320 --> 02:32:41,840
But I.
Need an offensive line and a.

2976
02:32:41,840 --> 02:32:44,280
Quarterback that can sling it or
nothing else works.

2977
02:32:45,160 --> 02:32:49,640
Dan, I'm dropping 5 million on 4
offensive lineman.

2978
02:32:52,480 --> 02:33:00,040
I'm staying.
Here I'm going to go QB.

2979
02:33:01,040 --> 02:33:06,040
With.
Two and the rest on.

2980
02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:11,600
Offensive lineman OK.
Chris, what you guys say, Chris?

2981
02:33:14,920 --> 02:33:17,000
I mean, it's easy for me, most
important.

2982
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:20,000
Most important positions in
order quarterback.

2983
02:33:20,000 --> 02:33:21,960
Left tackle, defensive ending,
quarterback.

2984
02:33:22,200 --> 02:33:23,800
That's the most important
positions.

2985
02:33:24,440 --> 02:33:26,600
I was wondering why.
I was wondering why nobody said

2986
02:33:26,600 --> 02:33:29,440
the cornerback yet.
Yeah, yeah, nobody said that.

2987
02:33:29,440 --> 02:33:33,120
So if I'm going to turn around.
No, they're important.

2988
02:33:33,320 --> 02:33:41,680
So I turn around in my position,
I'll go 2.5 on.

2989
02:33:42,280 --> 02:33:45,160
If I got 5 million, I got 2.5 on
my quarterback.

2990
02:33:45,840 --> 02:33:48,160
I go get the best left tackle I
can go get.

2991
02:33:49,560 --> 02:33:53,280
I then turn around and go get
the rest of the money I spend on

2992
02:33:53,280 --> 02:33:59,480
my pass rusher because my pass
rusher means everything and I'm

2993
02:33:59,480 --> 02:34:02,480
going to have to play with what
I got to play with because I

2994
02:34:02,480 --> 02:34:03,840
have.
Talent.

2995
02:34:04,200 --> 02:34:10,640
In my quarterback room, Josh
Clark and JoJo Crim are.

2996
02:34:11,080 --> 02:34:16,760
P4 players.
P4 Players Jamar Deloach.

2997
02:34:17,120 --> 02:34:18,920
And.
Knowledge Harrell are P4.

2998
02:34:18,920 --> 02:34:27,120
Players Q Reddish, QQ Reddish,
Jordan Bass, Sheldon Robinson

2999
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:33,080
and and Caleb Spencer and Noah
Chambers are P4 players.

3000
02:34:33,760 --> 02:34:36,640
I got secondary guys, so that's
where I play it.

3001
02:34:36,880 --> 02:34:39,080
I got to get a quarterback to be
able to give a ball to my

3002
02:34:39,080 --> 02:34:41,920
playmakers.
I'm I'm going to, I'm going to

3003
02:34:41,920 --> 02:34:45,560
be able to bring in a tight end.
From.

3004
02:34:46,080 --> 02:34:49,760
Wherever who's going to want to
play with Ty Howe and I don't

3005
02:34:49,760 --> 02:34:53,520
know if I missed it yeah, if if
I if I missed it with Ty Howe

3006
02:34:53,560 --> 02:34:56,200
and.
His offense, I've had an

3007
02:34:56,240 --> 02:34:59,200
opportunity.
To kind of hear what he's going

3008
02:34:59,200 --> 02:35:02,440
to do, and I like what his
offense is going to bring.

3009
02:35:03,120 --> 02:35:07,560
He's got a concept, he's got a
game plan, something that my

3010
02:35:09,000 --> 02:35:11,920
previous OC before Monty didn't
have.

3011
02:35:12,480 --> 02:35:14,440
And so he's going to be able to
expand on it.

3012
02:35:15,120 --> 02:35:17,080
He's going to be able to beat
the middle of the field up.

3013
02:35:17,360 --> 02:35:20,800
So I'm excited about that.
I'm I've definitely had an

3014
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:23,240
opportunity to to kind of get
some insight on that.

3015
02:35:23,240 --> 02:35:27,360
So I'm excited about that.
So yeah, let me get a

3016
02:35:27,360 --> 02:35:30,560
quarterback, let me get a, let
me get a, let me get a, let me

3017
02:35:30,560 --> 02:35:36,720
get a defensive end and let me
let me get a left tackle.

3018
02:35:37,520 --> 02:35:44,520
But I think I think Johnny
Garrett another year in Matt

3019
02:35:44,520 --> 02:35:47,240
Moore system will be
serviceable.

3020
02:35:47,840 --> 02:35:50,120
I don't think he's going to be
all world, but I think he'll be

3021
02:35:50,120 --> 02:35:53,440
serviceable, serviceable.
I'm going to go out on a limb.

3022
02:35:53,440 --> 02:35:59,160
I think Marlin Bright and Tommy
Tommy Wilder will be will be the

3023
02:35:59,160 --> 02:36:06,080
next version of, you know,
Kristen Darrisol and the next

3024
02:36:06,080 --> 02:36:08,800
and those and those guys.
That's that's what I'm banking

3025
02:36:08,800 --> 02:36:10,160
on.
That's what I know.

3026
02:36:10,160 --> 02:36:14,320
Those guys got to be I I know
Marlin Bright's going to come

3027
02:36:14,320 --> 02:36:16,320
here and go to play.
I know what Tommy.

3028
02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:20,400
Wilder has to.
Do to go be exceptional and he

3029
02:36:20,400 --> 02:36:23,840
is a Sunday cat.
He's a Sunday cat.

3030
02:36:24,200 --> 02:36:26,600
So, you know, I I believe that
to be.

3031
02:36:26,600 --> 02:36:30,600
What he is.
Field.

3032
02:36:31,760 --> 02:36:33,920
I mean, I'm going to trust the
guy.

3033
02:36:33,920 --> 02:36:35,760
That.
Has a kid on the.

3034
02:36:35,760 --> 02:36:41,160
Team it's what I'm going to do.
Like, I mean, I feel like he is

3035
02:36:41,160 --> 02:36:47,800
a pretty good Paul all things
like if I had $5,000,000, like I

3036
02:36:47,800 --> 02:36:51,240
mean, hey, man, I mean I would,
I literally like, I don't know,

3037
02:36:51,240 --> 02:36:54,240
I'm inside out.
Like you build from the defense

3038
02:36:54,240 --> 02:37:00,080
to the, to the offensive line.
And but like I, I, I, I don't

3039
02:37:00,080 --> 02:37:02,120
know running back.
I think we're set.

3040
02:37:02,640 --> 02:37:05,520
I think the skill positions like
people can catch and run and we

3041
02:37:05,520 --> 02:37:09,160
got people there.
I do maybe give Jared Ferguson

3042
02:37:09,160 --> 02:37:12,640
some of that money is what I
maybe feel like a little bit.

3043
02:37:13,360 --> 02:37:16,000
I I am like that is the other
thing.

3044
02:37:16,000 --> 02:37:19,240
I'll be honest with you.
You can hire Brett Pryde and get

3045
02:37:19,240 --> 02:37:23,440
threw it back to you.
No, like you're wearing.

3046
02:37:23,440 --> 02:37:25,600
My jersey from when I was in
kindergarten.

3047
02:37:25,600 --> 02:37:28,520
Back there, no doubt very small
in my video, but it's very

3048
02:37:28,680 --> 02:37:31,280
small.
But look, if we could keep

3049
02:37:31,360 --> 02:37:36,200
Jared, like if you could bring
Brett Pryde back, but Jared

3050
02:37:36,200 --> 02:37:41,280
Ferguson, I would probably not
be as upset or confused or

3051
02:37:41,280 --> 02:37:45,800
frustrated as my life.
But like I miss Jared Ferguson.

3052
02:37:45,800 --> 02:37:47,120
Now.
Jared Ferguson's a hokey.

3053
02:37:47,480 --> 02:37:50,800
But like, whatever they you, you
know better than anybody.

3054
02:37:51,480 --> 02:37:54,000
Your name is it on here.
It says Chris Frog.

3055
02:37:55,440 --> 02:37:58,160
But you know, I feel like you
have a pulse on the team better

3056
02:37:58,160 --> 02:38:00,160
than.
Anybody what I want to know?

3057
02:38:01,080 --> 02:38:05,400
It's like, what is the vibe?
Like it's kind of a joke.

3058
02:38:05,400 --> 02:38:07,920
Like I can only imagine what
like a Brent Prime meeting and a

3059
02:38:07,920 --> 02:38:12,080
James Franklin meeting.
It's like it's litter like KB

3060
02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:15,160
Toys and Toys-R-Us like.
I feel like I compared the.

3061
02:38:15,720 --> 02:38:20,760
Navy damn like KB toys did a
fine job at one point.

3062
02:38:20,760 --> 02:38:22,520
They were great.
They.

3063
02:38:23,320 --> 02:38:25,440
Were right near the Chick-fil-A
and the toys.

3064
02:38:27,040 --> 02:38:29,040
But.
But that's that's what I want to

3065
02:38:29,040 --> 02:38:31,040
understand is like.
What is the vibe?

3066
02:38:31,040 --> 02:38:34,080
Because the other thing that
I've read anecdotally is that

3067
02:38:34,080 --> 02:38:36,360
like the Merriman Center is now
the football center.

3068
02:38:36,720 --> 02:38:40,280
There ain't walking through the
Merriman Center to walk the

3069
02:38:40,560 --> 02:38:42,920
basketball court to go to your
table.

3070
02:38:42,920 --> 02:38:45,880
I don't give a shit who you are,
how much money you give, I don't

3071
02:38:45,880 --> 02:38:48,120
care.
You're going to walk around this

3072
02:38:48,120 --> 02:38:49,640
other building.
You're going to need to park in

3073
02:38:49,640 --> 02:38:52,440
a different place.
So that's what I want to know

3074
02:38:52,440 --> 02:38:56,360
and what the vibe is that way
because like, I don't know, the

3075
02:38:56,360 --> 02:38:59,080
coaching is going to be a
mystery in my opinion until the

3076
02:38:59,080 --> 02:39:02,400
coaching is the coaching.
But I want to know like in the

3077
02:39:02,480 --> 02:39:05,880
are the players like, oh, shit,
like this is no joke, because I

3078
02:39:05,880 --> 02:39:07,160
feel like we hear that all the
time.

3079
02:39:07,160 --> 02:39:09,440
Like, oh, we got to go to class.
Like I don't give a shit about

3080
02:39:09,440 --> 02:39:12,520
coach going to class.
I care about getting better and

3081
02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:15,320
proving yourself to somebody
that obviously has been there

3082
02:39:15,600 --> 02:39:18,520
and done that and was a play
away from the national

3083
02:39:18,520 --> 02:39:24,240
championship game.
So please, I mean you, you talk

3084
02:39:24,240 --> 02:39:26,760
about from my perspective, is
that what you're asking?

3085
02:39:26,760 --> 02:39:27,880
What?
Your perspective.

3086
02:39:27,880 --> 02:39:30,600
Plus obviously you have an
informed perspective, so yes.

3087
02:39:31,720 --> 02:39:34,560
My perspective is that they
understand that they got to go

3088
02:39:34,560 --> 02:39:37,080
to work.
I think, and I think I said it

3089
02:39:37,080 --> 02:39:43,320
earlier in our in our talk, you,
you got to understand this a

3090
02:39:43,360 --> 02:39:50,640
year to year deal and every kid
knows that they sign a year to

3091
02:39:50,640 --> 02:39:54,280
year deal for them to be able to
go to school and be at Virginia

3092
02:39:54,280 --> 02:39:58,280
Tech Okie.
And I think like I said before,

3093
02:39:58,280 --> 02:40:02,040
there are more eyes on this
program than any other program

3094
02:40:02,040 --> 02:40:05,800
in the ACC because of the
addition of Franklin.

3095
02:40:06,520 --> 02:40:12,440
So I can only, I can only speak
from the the kids that I talked

3096
02:40:12,480 --> 02:40:17,240
to and they understand.
That hey, they're in audition.

3097
02:40:17,240 --> 02:40:20,120
They're in audition for the.
Next 12.

3098
02:40:20,120 --> 02:40:24,840
Months, you know, you see all
the running backs and I'm in a

3099
02:40:24,840 --> 02:40:28,200
group chat with some guys who
have listed some guys that they

3100
02:40:28,200 --> 02:40:32,640
want to have running back but
those all those guys have to

3101
02:40:32,640 --> 02:40:38,440
talk to the the new regime
because there's a different.

3102
02:40:38,440 --> 02:40:42,200
Level of.
Expectation from those guys, I'm

3103
02:40:42,200 --> 02:40:48,400
blessed and I'm humbled that my
kid is in that, that that

3104
02:40:48,400 --> 02:40:51,120
perspective.
So at the end of the day, man,

3105
02:40:51,360 --> 02:40:54,440
we got to go win games.
We go win games.

3106
02:40:54,680 --> 02:40:56,760
You get the kids back that we
have.

3107
02:40:56,760 --> 02:41:01,680
And I've always pounded the
table for the 20, the 2324 and

3108
02:41:01,680 --> 02:41:04,600
25 clothes.
Those are the kids that that

3109
02:41:04,600 --> 02:41:07,600
I've had a opportunity to talk.
To.

3110
02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:11,880
Help get them here and we're
going to be fine.

3111
02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:15,720
We get those with the portal
that come in on the second we

3112
02:41:15,720 --> 02:41:22,120
get a, we get a legitimate E4
quarterback with an offensive

3113
02:41:22,120 --> 02:41:24,760
line because I think Kyron never
had the opportunity to have a

3114
02:41:24,760 --> 02:41:27,680
full offensive line that could
be able to block and do the

3115
02:41:27,680 --> 02:41:30,000
different things they can be
able to do for him to help him.

3116
02:41:30,520 --> 02:41:32,280
We'll be fine.
I'm fine.

3117
02:41:32,600 --> 02:41:36,400
I'm excited, and that's the
easiest way I can say it.

3118
02:41:36,880 --> 02:41:39,120
Does that make sense?
That that makes sense.

3119
02:41:39,240 --> 02:41:41,440
And the biggest issues on that
one thing the.

3120
02:41:43,760 --> 02:41:45,000
The one thing that I'll say
that.

3121
02:41:45,000 --> 02:41:47,120
Nobody hit on.
Is we got to get a stud

3122
02:41:47,120 --> 02:41:50,640
linebacker too.
We got some linebackers that can

3123
02:41:50,640 --> 02:41:52,760
play, but we got to get we got
to get a stud.

3124
02:41:54,240 --> 02:41:57,440
Tony Rojas, come on down.
I mean, Noah Chambers is.

3125
02:41:58,280 --> 02:42:00,880
I don't feel like he's.
Far, but he needs some help, no?

3126
02:42:00,920 --> 02:42:04,960
He's not, He's just young.
He's not hitting your goal.

3127
02:42:07,160 --> 02:42:08,680
We're going to talk about this
again.

3128
02:42:08,680 --> 02:42:11,240
Don't worry 3.
Of them still, I don't know if

3129
02:42:11,240 --> 02:42:13,760
you know this, but.
You were just talking to the

3130
02:42:13,760 --> 02:42:16,960
Green Run Godfather and.
That in itself is hey, hey, hey,

3131
02:42:16,960 --> 02:42:20,120
hey, hey, hey.
I am just a guy.

3132
02:42:20,440 --> 02:42:23,160
What's the man?
Stop putting that green brother

3133
02:42:23,400 --> 02:42:26,120
godfather stuff on me, the guy.
Stay.

3134
02:42:26,120 --> 02:42:28,880
Thirsty, my friend.
I'm thirsty to hang out with the

3135
02:42:28,880 --> 02:42:30,000
green run.
Godfather.

3136
02:42:30,000 --> 02:42:33,280
In Charlotte.
In Charlotte in 11 months,

3137
02:42:33,320 --> 02:42:36,200
right?
Eleven months, maybe 11 days. 11

3138
02:42:36,200 --> 02:42:39,360
months all.
Right.

3139
02:42:39,840 --> 02:42:40,520
In.
Almost.

3140
02:42:40,880 --> 02:42:43,000
Three hours.
As always.

3141
02:42:43,200 --> 02:42:44,240
This.
Is.

3142
02:42:44,680 --> 02:42:49,880
An absolute blast.
Every year it is some people

3143
02:42:49,880 --> 02:42:52,040
that came on, the people that
came off maybe not have been the

3144
02:42:52,040 --> 02:42:54,000
biggest crowd tonight.
I don't know where the white BIC

3145
02:42:54,000 --> 02:42:55,920
is, but we don't have
conversation.

3146
02:42:55,920 --> 02:42:58,760
He joined on Instagram.
He did not jump on live.

3147
02:42:58,800 --> 02:43:02,040
But Dwight, Dwight's always got
a got got his hand on the pulse.

3148
02:43:02,040 --> 02:43:03,560
I'm sad because I missed the
white.

3149
02:43:03,960 --> 02:43:05,080
I missed the white.
Do it again.

3150
02:43:05,080 --> 02:43:07,280
You got to do it again when we
got a more complete team.

3151
02:43:07,280 --> 02:43:09,440
This is uncharted territory,
literally.

3152
02:43:09,440 --> 02:43:11,960
Uncharted territory.
Uncharted territory.

3153
02:43:12,200 --> 02:43:14,840
But the way the state of the
program goes right now is.

3154
02:43:15,480 --> 02:43:17,320
We've got a.
Significantly better head coach.

3155
02:43:17,720 --> 02:43:19,320
We've got a significantly better
staff.

3156
02:43:19,800 --> 02:43:21,800
The players are better than
where they were three or four

3157
02:43:21,800 --> 02:43:24,360
years ago.
Significantly, yes Sir.

3158
02:43:24,360 --> 02:43:27,760
And now everything that happens
in the.

3159
02:43:27,760 --> 02:43:29,920
Next month, so maybe we run it
back.

3160
02:43:29,920 --> 02:43:33,520
About a month from now, now it's
going to be probably be more

3161
02:43:33,520 --> 02:43:36,800
stone cold sober because I can't
do this every Friday night.

3162
02:43:36,800 --> 02:43:40,200
I will be dying.
I won't be stone cold sober, but

3163
02:43:40,200 --> 02:43:45,080
I'll certainly be a few drinks.
You know I have a tall PR in

3164
02:43:45,360 --> 02:43:47,680
here I did not get.
Hammered tonight, this is.

3165
02:43:48,120 --> 02:43:50,120
Friday This is a steady Friday
night.

3166
02:43:50,120 --> 02:43:52,640
Brian Sieglitz, Friday night
date of the program.

3167
02:43:52,640 --> 02:43:56,640
Every quarter.
Friday night, head of the

3168
02:43:56,640 --> 02:44:00,360
quarter, head of the.
Program every quarter we might.

3169
02:44:00,360 --> 02:44:01,680
Be at the Bills.
We might have to do it.

3170
02:44:02,000 --> 02:44:04,360
Hey, if we're.
Doing this a month from now and

3171
02:44:04,360 --> 02:44:05,960
I'm invited.
You know I'm going to be here,

3172
02:44:05,960 --> 02:44:07,360
so I know you will.
Dan.

3173
02:44:07,360 --> 02:44:09,160
Yes, Sir.
No doubt man, it's always

3174
02:44:09,200 --> 02:44:11,040
nothing on brother.
But listen.

3175
02:44:11,040 --> 02:44:14,120
With that, stay in the program,
2025.

3176
02:44:14,960 --> 02:44:18,040
That wraps up this episode of
the Boundary Corner podcast.

3177
02:44:18,680 --> 02:44:21,640
We're all to you by moments on
the more he's right there, he's

3178
02:44:21,640 --> 02:44:24,480
right there.
He's he's about 14 Bud Lights

3179
02:44:24,480 --> 02:44:26,240
deep.
We're all to you back on the

3180
02:44:26,280 --> 02:44:28,240
pharmacy.
We need to get Jeremy back on

3181
02:44:28,240 --> 02:44:33,320
here for Jonathan Talley.
Give him the peace sign tally.

3182
02:44:33,800 --> 02:44:36,400
Tally Tally did not get to.
Have any alcohol at night

3183
02:44:36,400 --> 02:44:39,320
because all these drugs he's on
for Chris Lester?

3184
02:44:40,080 --> 02:44:41,720
Man, I love having you on here,
brother.

3185
02:44:42,120 --> 02:44:43,800
I appreciate you, man.
I appreciate you.

3186
02:44:44,240 --> 02:44:46,080
For.
Dan visionary season checking

3187
02:44:46,080 --> 02:44:46,760
mount tears.
On.

3188
02:44:47,720 --> 02:44:50,000
Tails from the Tear Dome.
Tear from the tails Dome man.

3189
02:44:50,000 --> 02:44:54,640
That's how drunk I am.
I brought LeBron single up the

3190
02:44:54,680 --> 02:44:57,280
last 30 years of my life.
I am Curtis Wilson.

3191
02:44:58,040 --> 02:45:01,640
Check us out February.
Go ahead, give shout out to

3192
02:45:01,720 --> 02:45:04,240
Brian.
Man man, listen.

3193
02:45:05,080 --> 02:45:09,160
Dude that's been going through
so much man and been checking on

3194
02:45:09,160 --> 02:45:11,040
him.
I appreciate you bro.

3195
02:45:11,040 --> 02:45:14,240
I appreciate you man.
It's going to get better.

3196
02:45:14,440 --> 02:45:16,280
I appreciate you checking on me
man.

3197
02:45:16,280 --> 02:45:19,440
I really do.
I really do every.

3198
02:45:19,440 --> 02:45:21,360
Time.
Every time I feel like I'm I'm

3199
02:45:21,360 --> 02:45:25,040
having a little bit of a tough
moment, I get a text or a call

3200
02:45:25,040 --> 02:45:28,200
from Chris.
My guy always brings me up.

3201
02:45:28,400 --> 02:45:31,160
So shout out to my guy.
Hey man, I'm proud of.

3202
02:45:31,160 --> 02:45:33,000
You, man, I'm.
Proud of you bro, I know this is

3203
02:45:33,000 --> 02:45:35,680
a heavy season for you.
It's heavy season for me every

3204
02:45:35,680 --> 02:45:39,320
year, but I'm proud of you guys
help you guys, Guys helping guys

3205
02:45:39,320 --> 02:45:40,160
we need.
That's what we do.

3206
02:45:40,160 --> 02:45:41,840
That's helping guys We need it.
It's hard.

3207
02:45:41,920 --> 02:45:45,600
To be #40 it's hard being under
40 guys helping guys.

3208
02:45:47,680 --> 02:45:53,160
Check out our other podcasts.
Yeah, that was like.

3209
02:45:55,280 --> 02:45:57,040
Phil just created another
podcast for.

3210
02:45:57,160 --> 02:45:59,720
Us guys let's.
Do it y'all, it's always.

3211
02:45:59,760 --> 02:46:02,800
Quit.
Let's go check out Jason Long,

3212
02:46:02,800 --> 02:46:04,040
our buddy who plays this and
plays.

3213
02:46:04,040 --> 02:46:06,480
This out every week and as
always.

3214
02:46:06,480 --> 02:46:09,320
And I hope to God when we do
this next year we are talking

3215
02:46:09,320 --> 02:46:12,840
about some good shit because the
last few years it has been some

3216
02:46:12,840 --> 02:46:15,480
rough shit.
But as always, let's go.

3217
02:47:02,840 --> 02:47:02,960
None.

Robert Compton

Coach and Football Camp Evaluator

Coach Robert Compton has been a high school football coach in the states of North Carolina and Virginia for 15 years. He coached current NFL talents such as Kentavius Street and Cornell Powell while at J.H. Rose High School in Greenville, NC. He is currently serving as defensive coordinator at North Wilkesboro High School in North Carolina. Coach Compton has also served as an evaluator at collegiate football camps throughout the mid-Atlantic.

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