We're joined this week by Sports Illustrated writer and fellow Hokie podcaster Mike McDaniel. He joins us to talk all things Spring Game Weekend as we look at everything from football alumni events, Remembrance Day, tailgating, and, of course, the game itself. We also discuss the Hokies looking to have their name called in Las Vegas at the NFL Draft.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.

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I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Cielo buddy.

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We're live on a Wednesday night
how you feeling?

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Buddy back-to-back Wednesdays in
the offseason?

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Yeah, we could let the let the
spring game Shenanigans simmer

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for too long so we had to get
one going this week.

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Oh no, we couldn't.
I mean plus I mean you already

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watched you were at the spring
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You watched it Sunday he
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Monday, you brown would likely
be on his ninth to Tenth

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watching of the spring game.
Trying to analyze everything

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that happened if we if we didn't
do that man.

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So so let me just ask this.
I know you took your son down,

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how was the trip up and back?
Trip up and back was great.

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Actually made it in like three
hours and 10 minutes and no

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traffic really either in or out,
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Just it was a good trip, good
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My son got there, he was hanging
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read.
He was hanging out with kids at

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the tailgate next to us.
So he was having a good time

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until he went into the stadium,
and it was just a good time all

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around.
He got to jump to Sandman for

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the first time.
So, He got the he got the full

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experience.
At least from a spring game

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perspective, right out.
The gate full experience of a

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real game to just not as much as
the chaos is going up in the

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fall when it's 66,000 in the
stadium and about 100,000 in the

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town when it's craziness.
Yeah, I think we probably

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clipped a bug just above 30,000
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It looks like with, you know
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I'm not sure what the exact
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I haven't seen anyone put that
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It was a, it was a good showing
West was pretty much filled

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North is pretty much filled
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Then he had about, you know,
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East, pretty pretty stacked.
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So it was a good crowd and just
good atmosphere all around.

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Yeah, but I'm thinking going
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If you can, remember we said an
East and remember, they had like

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a, they had like caution tape
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And he's like, you couldn't go
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don't know if it's a liability
thing or it's just there always

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are constantly, you know, those
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but maybe that's the reason East
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because you shouldn't me a
picture of West man.

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I mean West was packed West look
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exception of the upper right
corner, like no one was there.

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And that looked very awkward
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like, that's a great view spot.
That's a spot we set before.

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So you know, but I'm glad you
got to go or one of us.

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Got to go down there, I'm killed
talking because I'm keeping an

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eye on the net Celtics game.
Mike McDaniel is going to join

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us just in a second here.
Big Celtics fan, Mike was

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chatting us up while watching
the game right before we came

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on.
So, you know, just went final

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here.
When the softball top 15 victory

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at Tennessee tonight, I can't
was on, ESPN, do yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, I pulled up the apparatus
like, oh, that's all there

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tonight.
Let me go.

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Well, I thought I'd turn it over
for a couple Innings.

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I just.
Oh, cool.

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Let's see how they're doing
their up. 31 in like I look

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them, like that's not a cc
Network, that's not the do swear

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to you.
That's full-bore.

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ESPN, so definitely big night
for the ladies.

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Giving a getting a A big win.
I mean they're marching closer

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and closer not to only getting a
regional hosting, but potential

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getting a Super Regional in
Blacksburg when the tournament

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starts.
So that will be awesome.

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Ron.
I'm looking for.

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Yeah, it's 114 105 were under 25
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Is it safe to bring him on?
I think we're good, man.

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I think I think he feels pretty
comfortable about the about the

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cushion now.
Alright, Reggie Miller side.

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Out there.
So I think we're going to be all

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right.
Oh man, oh, man, Reggie Miller

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is not out there, so we are
going to bring on I guess

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tonight.
From Si from hokey hangover

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front sons of Saturday.
The one and only hardest

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working, man in hokey podcast
laying Mike, McDaniels Sup boys

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stole my.
I know I'm making it once, and I

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know I'm making my annual
appearance on this podcast when

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I have a Boston team in the
playoffs and you guys are

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stalling for me and the
internet.

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So I do appreciate it.
Last year was the Bruins.

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It wasn't really, it was so I
appreciate it.

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I was, I was locked in so
awesome.

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Awesome.
They're, uh, I see, it's not.

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Are we in a TV timeout or
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Yeah, yeah, they're upstairs.
Seven was about 35 seconds left,

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so safety crew.
Uh, okay.

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Excellent, excellent.
The blood pressure is a little

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bit lower than it was when we
first met.

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I was well, I mean I told him I
go back and look and it's like a

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12:41 run.
The South takes like yeah.

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In with four minutes to go in
the first half and then get a

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couple shots, cut it to 10 and
then it was all Celtics in the

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2nd half 4th quarter was great.
So pretty fired up to be up to

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them and that the Nets are
tough.

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Yeah, I read Grant tough.
Yeah, very good.

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That's a tough first round.
Yeah, I mean, it's a Eastern

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Conference Finals, matchup
forget it.

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First round matchups.
Crazy, it is.

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But hey, you guys pulled the
both W's at home.

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What a play by Tatum on what
someday.

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The layup.
Literally I'm sure your heart

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was coming out of your chest
there that night.

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Yeah, I'm trying to figure out
what made me more nervous, the

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fact that the Nets were up
three, I think like 45 seconds

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left in game one or the fact
that Southward down 17 here in

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game two.
And it was pretty somehow game

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to was an easier, watch down the
stretch and I thought the

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Celtics played worse tonight.
So hey man, I'll take it.

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I will take it.
Awesome all, well, my we brought

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you on tonight.
We're going to discuss a ton of

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Stuff the spring game in il,
some draft stuff, but let's

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start right before the spring
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You know, kicks off the big
announcement from the athletic

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department about the ni L deals
and essentially, there are three

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big partners with Virginia Tech.
You've got Commonwealth in il

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founded by Nick rush and Forest
rush you got hot route marketing

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Kelly wool on taking care of
that, and then Nothing else and

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IL, the one we definitely all
are hearing a lot about by James

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Callan, and by none other than
Tech, Legend, Kevin Jones, what

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are you hearing about each?
You know, I know one is going to

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be really kind of geared towards
the academic success, right?

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Yeah, I mean, what else say
about all three of these, you

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know, these n IL, you know,
companies is that Brent pry.

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One of his priorities when he
came in, as head coach at

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Virginia Tech was to make sure
that this was built out, right?

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Because, you know, I think
Virginia Tech was a little bit

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behind the eight ball on the ni
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I mean, last year, it was kind
of a weird year.

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You're coming off of covid,
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It's your kind of the first
year, everybody is trying to get

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their feedback under them.
Anyway, right, from a The covid

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standpoint found top of it, you
have this new n IL legislation,

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that passes and now players can
make money off the name image or

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likeness.
And I feel like a lot of schools

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are ready from the get-go,
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It's almost like they were
anticipating and I feel like,

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Virginia Tech was behind the
eight ball a little bit and

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they're they're not alone,
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A, you know, a lot of schools
were kind of caught a little bit

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flat-footed by it because I
think everybody knew and I

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always coming but didn't know
when you know and to make

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matters even more complicated.
I mean, just Infante was a lame.

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Duck head coach last year.
I mean, that's, that's what he

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was, right.
I mean, it was a tough schedule,

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you know, Burmeister a
quarterback that we talked about

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last year, when I was on, like,
to go into the fall with having

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only one real option at
quarterback, and he hasn't

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really been healthy his entire
career leading up to that.

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It's like that is a strategy
that gets you fired, right.

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So he was a lame.
Duck head coach and it's really

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really hard to get players
excited about ni l.

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And everything that comes along
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When you know you're coached on
the way out, you're not sure if

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you're going to be a Virginia
Tech, long-term, that's

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something you have to think
about photography and text main

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players, and it's kind of played
out that way, right?

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Like a lot of Virginia Tech's
guys, who were major

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contributors last year and have
been major contributors over the

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last few years are gone, right?
And we'll get into the NFL draft

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guys later.
But a lot of guys transferred,

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you know, a lot of guys left
haveon leaving for Kentucky as a

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huge loss, right?
And Trey Turner going to the NFL

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We kind of knew last year was
going to be his last year.

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He Blackshear choosing to
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He goes to Italy, James
Mitchell, you know, blows his

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knee out.
He's like, you know what, I'm

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sticking around, her new
coaching staff.

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I'm on my way out to.
So a lot of guys, you know, kind

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of saw the writing on the wall
to begin with and then I just

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think Virginia Tech has a much
better spot now from an ni L

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standpoint even before you get
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they're a much better spot.
Now with NI L with Brent prize

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the head coach because there's
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Anyway now you've introduced the
the N IL firms that are going to

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be kind of working with Virginia
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You know, even though the school
can facilitate deals per se, we

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all know how college football
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They'll find a way every school
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Let's call it what it is.
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be really interesting to see
kind of how all this plays out,

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because I know on the basketball
side, you know, we saw a dress

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from us, was able to do with
text Sidelines and that's just

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scratching the surface, right.
So if you Really interesting to

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see kind of what happens from
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Yeah, it seems like Virginia
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I know you talked about being
behind the 8-ball, they did a

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decent job of kind of setting up
things to help players build

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their own brand, but there
wasn't a whole lot of push with

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with outside entities, to get
the ball, moving to help

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facilitate some of those deals
and and really use it as a

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recruiting tool for Virginia,
Tech agree.

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Yeah.
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I mean they that was one thing.
I will give Justin Fuente and

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his staff credit.
I'm in the athletic department

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to, they were like, alright, you
know, we're making sure these

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guys come to understand what the
samael legislation means.

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You know, how do I build my
brand as a player?

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You know, the coaching staff to
their credit last year.

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When this and I also kind of
went into effect, they're like

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alright we're going to try to
get these players, you know,

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thinking the right way about ni
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But as far as like outside
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like that, there wasn't really
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Now, you can, you can't really
put too much of it on Say

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himself, like everybody wants to
blame Fontaine old coaching

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staff and all that, but like
that's kind of like a hard thing

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to pin on them.
But from a lame duck head coach

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standpoint and from a player's
being like I don't know if I'm

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going to be here or not.
It's really hard to get things

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really rolling with your star
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When They're really, you're
really not sure if they're gonna

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stick around, right?
So that that's the way I've been

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thinking about this.
Anyway, so I think now moving

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forward technos, who's going to
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coming out of spring, there's
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the fall and I think you really
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the ni L companies, not assured
of who's the head coach and then

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obviously you know, it's going
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talk about him.
No one just influenced his

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personality.
How many wanted to buy.

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In to that, as you know, being,
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he's the face of the program
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How are we supposed to craft
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When, you know, if he won't,
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players and help them.
So why are we going to go ahead

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and invest, you know,
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in giving deals out.
When like, you guys have already

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mentioned, we don't know where
who's going to be here.

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Let's just wait, if he has a
great season, awesome.

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He's going to be here but
they're going to come off a

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winning season if he gets fired.
Hopefully, we get somebody we

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can work with, right?
Like, how excited is Kevin Jones

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to launch?
An ni L Venture with Justin

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Fuente as the head coach.
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does the answer that right?
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good guess but we have a pretty
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I mean, look at how many players
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players right here in Blacksburg
for the spring game, versus how

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many former players came around
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you know, that we can all do the
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into consideration, just like
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and kind of where Virginia Tech
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standpoint with their football
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Now, with Brent pry versus where
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know what, to see what the
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field year-over-year and whether
or not probably enough games to

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stick around long term but as
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you know facing with alumni and
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I mean this is Is this has been
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standpoint so far.
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And I mean while we're on that
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about some of the the player and
the alumni stuff that was kind

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of going on over the weekend.
Let's lead off with the monogram

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Club golf tournament in Roanoke.
Some some pretty big star power

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turned out for that one.
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It was crazy.
See all the all the former

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players he shame G decked out in
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Stewart all the time.
Snickers, it's crazy.

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It was cool seeing all the
pictures come out of that to

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write like getting all these
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know, Shadow Davon Morgan.
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the events this weekend in
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perfect.
Perfect example, like how much

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of this was going on during past
spring games, right?

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And the last couple of years
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covid, but even prior to that,
we did not see this type of

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excitement around the football
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plenty right in the first couple
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So really, really Ali cool to
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tournament.
By the way, really nice

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Coursera, Roanoke had the
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past.
Very, very nice course.

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So a cool venue to get guys
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Blacksburg and they'll alarms
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Friday, you know, before spring
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in the building.
I think is really important and

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making them feel like they're
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you know, for the players for
players or Denies that to write

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and longs to, by the way, like,
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elsewhere, you know, I mean, and
they're, they're all coming into

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town and there, you know, like,
they got NFL offseason program

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starting right, like current
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Like we got, we got Camp

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starting.
You know, I mean, he can't start

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next week.
Now we're good.

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We're going to Blacksburg this
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I mean, that's right.
If you can time it says a lot,

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right?
About kind of the, the attitude

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that these players have towards
the Graham and the energy that's

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around Blacksburg right now.
It's very cool.

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Absolutely good and putting this
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he's coached over it Henry.
Yeah, yeah yeah he's doing that.

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You got tie rod coming down on
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I mean it's insane.
The the coordination and just

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the enthusiasm that.
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The former players are having
since this regime is change it

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seems just like night and day.
Know whether it's is I think

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there's a difference between
saying we want you here and then

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actively doing things to set to
try to get people here and I

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feel like that that's the
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Like I don't you know being Iced
Out is one thing but when you

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feel like actively wanted like
we're trying to get you here, we

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want you here and we're
expressing that actively that's

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what seems the difference to me.
It's not just like oh well if

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you come you come Um now we're
trying to get these guys here

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because it helps our brand and
helps them.

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It gives them a good time and it
gives us a way to show what

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Blacksburg is all about.
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In the other pieces, the
activity on social media, with

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that golf tournament.
You had VT football.

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Some of the, you know, some of
y'all's is, obviously, the

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videographer went out there with
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The players were posting
pictures of each other and, you

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know, also in, and it's like,
well, what does that do?

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Well, these guys, you know,
someone like tire rod has Easy

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amount of followers and the kids
out there are seeing this and

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start like, oh, I didn't know.
Kam Chancellor went to Virginia

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Tech, Revenant floors went to
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It's like brand building is like
it might, you know, is it going

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to be a decision?
You know, the decision of why

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kid comes to techno, but it
starts making kids, realize that

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a lot of good NFL.
Players have come through here

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and now you're having this new
regime who's really pushing like

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being active on social media.
You and speaking of being active

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on social media, the spring Jam
Friday night.

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I mean, that looked like a lot
of fun and once again, same way

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videographer is there pictures
going shout out?

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Jordan long shot out here.
Yeah, but it was like, it was

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like the everybody just got back
together, didn't miss a beat and

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it was, you know, all arrows,
right?

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It was There's a poke football
even guys who are from the last

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inning.
Were there the Beamer guys?

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The dually guys on back to the
70s in the 60s in that tells you

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something of the importance.
It is to those guys when they're

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not iced out and they're
invited, they're going to come

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and they're going to give a
hand.

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Yeah, I mean again shout out to
former players right?

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Xiao to Billy Ray pad.
Grayson for, you know,

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connecting with those guys and
you know, help.

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And sponsor that event.
It looked unbelievable.

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I was not in Blacksburg last
weekend, but from all the

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pictures and videos coming out
of everything, right.

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It just seemed incredible, you
know, and to have the form, all

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these former players.
And the enthusiasm around the

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program, I mean, you thought
there were a lot of former

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players at the golf tournament,
there were even more at the

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spring Jam, right.
A lot of guys were getting into

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town Friday afternoon didn't
make it to the golf tournament

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ended up at Spring Jam.
Friday night.

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You had people partying in
Blacksburg until really late and

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taking pictures with fans.
Ends and you know, all the

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players being so hospitable with
their time to I mean you got

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Legends right?
People who are who have had

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really impressive careers or
having really impressive careers

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at the next level and you know
guys you know and Dave on

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Morgan's case, right guys, you
coach elsewhere that you know,

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just want to be in Blacksburg
around, Virginia Tech.

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It's it's really cool.
And then, you know, to kind of

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go into to go into Saturday and
see the players taking picture

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to the recruits.
It's and yep, it goes to your

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point Curtis where it's like all
these former players don't

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really necessarily.
Remember that, you know, rock

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Carmi going to Virginia Tech and
you got all these guys, Kam

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Chancellor.
And you know, everybody knows

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tie rod.
But yeah, just go down the list

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of all these guys who had
really, really solid NFL

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careers.
And they're like, man, I didn't

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realize he went there, exactly.
You got all these, all these 17,

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18 year, olds who are in town,
over the weekend, taking

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pictures with these NFL,
Legends.

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And You know, if you think about
the time frame when they were

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growing up, like that's who
these guys were, that's who

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these guys were watching on TV,
at the professional level, they

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need to realize, I went to
Virginia Tech so exactly at that

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part of it is definitely a big
deal for sure.

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And yeah, that's bring jam and
monogram called with the golf

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tournament.
All that it's crucial in the big

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deal of having with the players
committee was what Wyatt teller.

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Shane on Chuck and the Fuller's
talking to the recruits.

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Yeah, you look at that.
Change.

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The oldest change retired.
Why?

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It's one of the best guards in
the league.

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Kindles is a legitimate him and
his brother, both really good

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cornerbacks Chuck's one of the
better safeties in the league.

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And again, it's that it's the
good ideas.

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Like, let the people who played
here sell the program.

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Yeah, I mean, you're just
someone saying, why aren't these

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guys talking to these kids?
We're taking the layups.

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Finally, like, these are layup.
These are things that are should

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have always been there.
That's why I'm saying like why

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make things more difficult than
you have to write, like, like

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want a, why aren't you saying
what's up to the 99 team?

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And they're in Blacksburg, you
know, when you're playing.

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Duke.
Like I understand what the I

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know what the outcome of the
game was we all need to get in

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bed but like again like take the
layups, right?

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Like you got this team in town,
the best team in Virginia Tech

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History could be art.
It could be argued with what

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some of those late 2000s games.
I know.

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But the team to me, it's a
national championship game,

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right?
And had Vic, and all these guys

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and they're in town and they're
celebrating the 20th

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anniversary.
It's a layout, right?

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Like Nick, the way up to have
your players.

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Your former players speak to
what this program is because

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it's one thing to have a coach
writer coaching staff recruited

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kit and be like hey come to my
school, they're getting that

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pitch from 20.
If they're good, they're getting

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that pitch from 20 or 30
different schools, right?

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And they're sifting through all
these scholarship offers and at

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some point all the coaches, I
feel like blend in unless you're

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like Saving, right?
All the coaches are Blended in

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the all these coaches but it's
especially with some of the

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school's Virginia Tech is
competing against for.

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You know, a lot of these kids
you're going up.

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Against, you know, you're still
getting force for our kids, but

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you're on a pencil Penn State.
You're going up against UNC,

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right?
You're not necessarily going up

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against dama Clemson, Georgia.
Like it's not necessarily those

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types of recruiting battles for
Virginia Tech.

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So you get a lot of these
coaches that blend in man and

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why not just have these former
players that can probably relate

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to these kids a bit more, if
they've been in their shoes

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before.
Great versus the coaching staff

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is saying come to my school,
come to my school, come to my

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school, they're here and that
all over the place.

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They're hearing that all over
the Really.

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So have your former players
speak to what a special place

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Virginia Tech is and the fact
that Fuente and his staff didn't

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take better advantage of that.
It's baffling to me because it's

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so easy to bring kids in and
then have them stick around when

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they are speaking to people,
they can relate to.

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And it's not even just like the
coaching staff.

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And I've heard the argument with
like, oh, 41 days from, you

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00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:13,400
know, Oklahoma and Texas.
He can't relate to Virginia

444
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,200
kids.
Yeah, that's that's true.

445
00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:16,300
True.
But even beyond that.

446
00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:19,800
Like he's not bringing people
in, who can relate to the kids.

447
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,600
He's recruiting guys who have
been there and done that with

448
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,000
the program that can not only
relate to what it's like to

449
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,300
playing in Blacksburg, but are
maybe from Virginia, or from the

450
00:24:28,300 --> 00:24:31,000
nearby area and you talk about
oh yeah, I went to Virginia Tech

451
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,900
this, what my experience was
like what they didn't have

452
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:37,300
former players, do some of the
recruiting forum and they're not

453
00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,300
on payroll.
Like that's it's easy.

454
00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:42,400
Just bring them into town and
have have the recruits in and

455
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,200
have them.
Have this experience where they

456
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,300
Kind of see themselves in the
shoes of these former players,

457
00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:52,000
where it's like, oh, maybe my
experience will be like that

458
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,800
too.
And you just didn't take

459
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,700
advantage of that price point.
On campus, 20 minutes, I get

460
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:58,500
Virginia Tech, has one guy
committed right in the 2023

461
00:24:58,500 --> 00:25:00,400
class.
I get that right now and that's

462
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,700
a concern that some fans have
that, you know, more people

463
00:25:02,700 --> 00:25:05,400
haven't jumped into the boat
yet, but if you look at just

464
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,000
kind of the outside momentum,
that's around the program.

465
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,700
The energy around the program
right now.

466
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,300
It's palpably different than
what the genotype am Justin

467
00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:16,300
Fuente.
It's it just is and we won't see

468
00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:18,700
the fruits of that.
I don't think for a couple years

469
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,600
because they kind of came in.
Like he got to re-establish

470
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,100
relationships and all that but
like you can feel the energy

471
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:29,600
around the program right now
it's different and it hasn't had

472
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,500
this in a long, long time, even
going back to be more, they did

473
00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:37,300
not have this for a while and so
that's what's cool about, kind

474
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:39,500
of where things are at right
now, even though we can all

475
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:42,700
acknowledge, like, at least in
2022, like this fall, is going

476
00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:44,400
to be a bit of a rebuild.
Yep.

477
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,100
Oh, yeah.
It's gonna be, it's gonna be a

478
00:25:46,108 --> 00:25:49,000
struggle in the fall off.
I mean, I think favorably we

479
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:55,400
have, as more schedule schedule
as a first-year head coach,

480
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,000
based on the overall caliber of
opponent and the amount of

481
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,100
travel they have to do October
still going to be a bitch

482
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,000
because the way things are
stacked, the way those teams are

483
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,900
stacked in October that's going
to be a bitch.

484
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:12,800
But if you know, if you can come
out of that stretch You know,

485
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,900
500 or close to it.
You feel pretty good that

486
00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:18,900
they're at least make a bowl in
your one.

487
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:22,200
Yeah.
So, you know, we'll see what

488
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,500
happens in the fall obviously,
but that's going to be

489
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:26,900
interesting.
But you talked about The Vibes

490
00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:31,200
in the, in the different feeling
that we have, you were there far

491
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,900
since protecting, but let's
talk.

492
00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:35,500
Let's talk about Saturday.
So I'll talk a little bit about

493
00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:36,900
The Vibes.
Yeah man.

494
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:44,500
Tailgating it kind of felt like
a like, an early-season like

495
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:47,600
non-conference FCS tight game
atmosphere.

496
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,300
Like it was, it was almost like
a fall atmosphere in the spring

497
00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:55,200
and that was something that I
haven't really experienced at a

498
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,300
spring game.
The ones I've ever been to.

499
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:03,200
It was just a different vibe.
It was kind of those early

500
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,600
season, you know, you have the
Hope still in the season, you

501
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,900
haven't had a loss yet.
Yet, you know, you got an

502
00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:11,800
opponent, you feel like you're
going to beat up on a little bit

503
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:16,400
and there really wasn't the
negativity.

504
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:22,300
I feel like he's been around the
pregame atmosphere that we felt

505
00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:24,300
before.
You know, we went downtown a

506
00:27:24,308 --> 00:27:29,400
little bit, you know, downtown
is always fun but it just

507
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,900
there's, there's just something
different about the energy right

508
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:37,500
now.
I know I put it on, put it on.

509
00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:41,400
It feels like most of the fan
base is finally rowing in the

510
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,000
same direction.
Yeah.

511
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:49,300
Yeah, I mean, well, I wasn't in
Blacksburg last weekend but it's

512
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,800
not hard to go on social media
anyway.

513
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,900
Get like the small sample size
and fan, and just see that

514
00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:58,300
finally, it feels like a lot of
people are rowing in the same

515
00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:03,600
direction and the foreign Terror
was very polarizing because you

516
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,000
know, when Tech wasn't playing
well, it was like yeah, let's

517
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,900
fire this guy.
Bye.

518
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:10,300
And I've written, you know, you
guys know, I wrote several

519
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:13,600
articles now that I'm like, you
guys got a fire, gotta fire but

520
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:17,000
every early part of the Fall,
you know, Tech rattles off a big

521
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,100
wind, they beat in North
Carolina.

522
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:22,100
And now, all of a sudden, I'm
like, I, you guys are sucking me

523
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,500
back in, right?
It was just like this polarizing

524
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:26,800
things, like every week, I'm
like, oh my God, here we go.

525
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,800
Again, like you're sucking me
back.

526
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,500
And I were beaten Carolina
Caroline's, a 6-1 team.

527
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:38,700
We didn't know that at the jump.
No, they were going to be angry

528
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,200
at being any other team, right?
I mean, when people are saying

529
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,600
there are 11 or 12, when team,
their playoff good.

530
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:50,100
I'm like what what are we what
did we watch in 20 and then 2020

531
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:53,000
great liking.
What were we were we doing?

532
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:56,700
I mean, this was they went eight
and four and, you know, losing a

533
00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:59,700
Virginia to UVA and they're
losing a flawed at Florida.

534
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:01,600
State team.
Like, are we watching the same

535
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,300
thing like how are they a top
five team in the country?

536
00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:07,000
And that's what they were lost,
pretty much all their offensive

537
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,200
production of Other than their
quarterback and made no sense

538
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:13,300
and it don't play games.
You don't know who fell players

539
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,600
and are ten spots better than
you are the previous year.

540
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,100
It was it didn't make any.
It made no sense to me.

541
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,500
Like you have a return Howell,
but you gotta know.

542
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:29,700
Scope position down, come back.
Anyway, the the thing about is

543
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:34,700
the fuck you in sees section.
Yeah, we got it, we got slide

544
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:39,800
that in there, right?
But I mean you can just see the

545
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,300
Vibes are different with the fan
base now, right?

546
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:45,400
Like everybody's like, all
right, not sure if we want

547
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,800
friend pry or not, right?
This is like initially, the day

548
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,800
it happens, right?
Everybody's like print pry.

549
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,600
I thought we were getting
Charles Huff.

550
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,600
I thought, you know, I thought
we were getting Matt.

551
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,600
Campbell I thought, would like,
every 20 minutes, I heard

552
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,600
something different and then
bring Pride kind of comes out of

553
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,800
nowhere.
And, you know, early on Brent

554
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,900
price.
I was like a rumored candidate,

555
00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:08,000
right?
Like very early on You'd like to

556
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,500
have your list of like 10 or 15.
Guys are like yeah, Penn State's

557
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:13,900
defensive coordinator he's on
there somewhere towards the

558
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:16,500
bottom, right?
And then you hear all these

559
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:21,500
other guys, all these other
guys, and then lo and behold

560
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,800
like out, nowhere.
Okay, Brett prize going to be

561
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,200
the guy like Pete paymo from
Yahoo now.

562
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,800
ESPN he breaks it right or like
a big gamble.

563
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,600
Once he says it's happening,
right?

564
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:35,500
And he breaks it and the
reaction from the fanbase, much

565
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:37,300
like the hire of Mike young for
basketball.

566
00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:41,400
It was Next, it was like first
year head coach but you know,

567
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,500
he's done some good things as
the coordinator.

568
00:30:44,500 --> 00:30:48,200
So then you've got Virginia Tech
connections and oh we're getting

569
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,100
back to Our Roots a little bit,
right?

570
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:53,700
And that's what I felt like for
me, well this this podcast will

571
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:56,900
always stand up and say we
called him a dark horse when we

572
00:30:56,900 --> 00:31:01,700
have the episode, we called him
a dark horse in when you start

573
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:05,000
reading more and more and
knowing he was here during the

574
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,700
foundation in mid nineties.
It like that makes sense and you

575
00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:13,600
got the ties to Beamer.
He's recruited the state of.

576
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,000
He almost understands the
footprint because of being at

577
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,200
Penn State, they're very
footprint oriented recruiting

578
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:20,800
territory.
Yeah.

579
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:23,300
Who do you?
Like everything started stacking

580
00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:26,100
up.
And it was just like this makes

581
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:28,700
a, this makes a lot more sense
now.

582
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,400
But I think a lot of people
thought because he had been a DC

583
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:37,500
for so long with James.
It was just kind of like he's

584
00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:40,300
Here it was.
It was, it's the it's the Brent

585
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:42,600
venables argument.
It's the Bud Foster argument.

586
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,600
What, what's like that are these
guys ever going to be a head

587
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,800
coach anywhere?
And then here he comes right

588
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,400
here, he comes to Blacksburg and
you knew like at the press

589
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,700
conference that this was the
right, the right higher for

590
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,500
watching attack right now,
right?

591
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:58,800
Regardless of whatever happens,
right?

592
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Wins losses, whatever we needed
a program reset.

593
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,200
Yeah.
And regardless of how the

594
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,100
10-year goes from like the ones
in losses standpoint.

595
00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:09,200
I think we can all acknowledge
that.

596
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,300
The culture, the prize going to
instill at Virginia Tech is kind

597
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:19,300
of back to Our Roots, right?
Because we just kind of lost our

598
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:23,000
way that with one day, certainly
G, that's putting it lightly.

599
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:25,300
But I think we're kind of back
to our roots and kind of what

600
00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:26,900
made 40 and have successful for
the last.

601
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:29,700
Like 25 years, you know, leading
up to fante.

602
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:34,700
It's like this is a higher that
really kind of makes sense,

603
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:36,800
understands Blacksburg
understands Virginia.

604
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:40,800
It just feels like a more
logical higher.

605
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,700
Yeah, I feel like the latter
years of Beamers in some ways,

606
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:48,500
the culture that was built kind
of got stale or neglected and

607
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:51,900
then when Flint a came in,
nothing was ever established to

608
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:55,500
really replace that the hard job
man.

609
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,200
It's not like, I mean, people
like you say, oh yeah, you can't

610
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,700
be stepping you a perfect
situation.

611
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:04,100
I mean, 20, I let you know.
I know some some fans, you know,

612
00:33:04,100 --> 00:33:05,700
people have fought.
They think I'm a Fuente

613
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:09,800
apologist, but like he did not
come into a perfect situation,

614
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,300
he made it look really good.
Your one, and even your to quite

615
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:19,700
frankly, but it was not a
perfect situation and, you know,

616
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:22,800
I know Fuente had the dalliance
with Baylor, but I've had

617
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,300
dalliance with Baylor ideas.
Yeah, we talked to Baylor and

618
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:30,300
golly and what they had that
press conference later on he was

619
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:33,200
like Like, yeah, you hired me.
You didn't I refer first few

620
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,500
years, you hire me for like
right now, right?

621
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:37,600
And he's talking about the
actual rebuild that need to take

622
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,900
place and it never turned out
well, because he had no real

623
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:44,900
plan.
It seems like, but he was right.

624
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:48,400
I mean, it was right?
Yeah, his assessment was

625
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,700
correct.
He just did not have the

626
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:51,500
prescription.
Yeah, right.

627
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:55,300
Like he's he's not, he's not a
doctor.

628
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:57,500
He's not a dumb guy.
Like, I think people will be

629
00:33:57,500 --> 00:33:59,000
like, yeah, fun fun days an
idiot.

630
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,300
I think he's thrown into a
situation with Virginia Tech

631
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:09,000
that he was not ready for know,
and he was a fat Heroes fast,

632
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,900
right?
And yeah, really good success in

633
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:14,699
offense, coordinator strong,
couple of years of bed.

634
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,600
Memphis, and then he steps in
and everybody's like, yeah, he's

635
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,500
ready for brave her.
P5 roll.

636
00:34:19,900 --> 00:34:23,600
It's like mint, we knew pretty
quickly with the recruiting.

637
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,500
It was like, man, this is not,
this is not Memphis, but you got

638
00:34:27,507 --> 00:34:30,199
to recruit differently here.
What would the big Issue with

639
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,199
him was it's like he came into a
he did come into a good

640
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,400
situation roster wise.
We did think bills.

641
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:39,300
Yes.
But it felt like what he could

642
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:44,400
not do in what separates P5.
From G5 is usually, when you

643
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,800
start seeing guys bleep up, grab
P4 P5 coaches.

644
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,600
They don't last long, they're
like gone, you're gone, you're

645
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,699
gone, you're gone.
I mean, that's normally what

646
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:57,100
happens.
In the things we didn't see

647
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:58,400
that.
We didn't see the turnover, we

648
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:03,800
needed to see because Normally
there's a slight flaw P5.

649
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,000
Coaches are narcissistic control
egomaniacs you're fired and

650
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,100
you're fired and they don't
care.

651
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:16,800
But I also think for him was he
had a Playbook laid in front of

652
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,800
him and instead of sitting there
really reviewing that Playbook

653
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,200
of what had happened the 20
years before, he's kind of

654
00:35:23,207 --> 00:35:25,800
glanced at it and threw it to
the side.

655
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:27,600
I'm doing things my way I'm
doing things.

656
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,200
I would so far last piece.
Compared this, I'm going to get

657
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,300
into one more piece and we're
going to get you a spring game.

658
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,500
Is I've seen the set over and
over.

659
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,600
It seems like to that staff,
maybe not to all of them to a

660
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:48,300
lot of members of that staff.
This was just a job with this

661
00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:51,900
new staff.
How they're recruiting, how

662
00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:54,200
they're getting out in the
community, how they're showing

663
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,000
and how they're going down, the
cheetah Wings down at PK's, how

664
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,900
they're hitting, you know,
different localities and how

665
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,100
they're doing and making sure
it's known.

666
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,700
It's like you said, with the
culture, these guys say, this is

667
00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:10,100
the culture.
This is what we have to show.

668
00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:13,100
And that's why it's working.
And they also just instead, I

669
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:15,600
think something that should
never change the three-point to

670
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,300
run regularly before the spring
game.

671
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:22,500
Getting all the players too.
Line up and basically give high

672
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:27,000
fives to the piano on out of the
they get a man's brilliant

673
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,500
because you're going to have
people who would never run, that

674
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:34,800
3.2 Miler next year.
Say, I want to do that.

675
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,800
That looks really cool.
Great right now.

676
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,600
I agree.
It's and yeah, I mean, the

677
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,900
roster was really good for the
roster is great for fun today,

678
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,100
right?
You can't step into a better

679
00:36:45,100 --> 00:36:47,800
situation, roster eyes, but
every quarterback away from a

680
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,000
great roster, right?
He brought me brother.

681
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:53,800
One player in exactly and like
everything everything else.

682
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,800
It was like man.
We know those facilities need to

683
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,200
be upgraded but it's almost like
fun today.

684
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,900
Took him a few years writings
like, man.

685
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,800
Maybe we don't have the best
facilities on the planet.

686
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:11,300
And, you know, i-i've kind of
maintain this, this take that I

687
00:37:11,308 --> 00:37:14,100
have that Fuente.
Fans are going to look back at

688
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:17,900
the 28th of Baylor thing, and a
lot of fans like in hindsight

689
00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:19,600
were like, yeah, I wish he'd
left.

690
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,100
But in hindsight I think a lot
of fans are going to look at it

691
00:37:22,107 --> 00:37:25,800
and say, you know what point a
interviewing with Baylor and

692
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,500
then going back to what Babcock
and saying.

693
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:30,000
This is what I need is going to
be one of the greatest things

694
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,500
that's ever happened in.
Virginia Tech football, I am, I

695
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:37,600
am, you can't talk me off of
that, take like because

696
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,900
immediately, they're like, oh
fundraising we got the funds.

697
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:45,500
Okay, now new locker room
nutrition right there, doing all

698
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:47,900
this.
All these upgrades new meeting

699
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:49,900
rooms everything and now they're
not high.

700
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:52,200
The meeting rooms anymore.
Billy Ray's talk about that

701
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,700
right on Saturday podcast.
They're not hiding meeting rooms

702
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:56,900
anymore for recruits.
Great great.

703
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,600
We're not, we're not embarrassed
about our facilities a more.

704
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,700
Not the Virginia Tech at the
worst facilities on the planet.

705
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,100
They did their way worse,
facilities and Virginia.

706
00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:09,500
Yeah, for the upgrades but now
everything's great.

707
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:11,600
Right?
Everything looks really good.

708
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:13,400
And the locker room, the weight
room, all that stuff's getting

709
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,100
upgraded.
And you just see the you see,

710
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,900
the energy now right now because
I got a new coach and you got

711
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,800
All these facilities show off,
you see the momentum and how

712
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,300
much the coaches care, right?
Curtis to your point they case

713
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:29,200
it's a big deal and it's a huge
deal for sure.

714
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:32,900
Yeah, I'll say this, what do you
talk about the recruiting?

715
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,700
You know, used to be on the
others recruiting trips, you

716
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:38,300
know, a lot of things stayed
behind a curtain and then there

717
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:41,100
was like well show you here,
show you here but we're not

718
00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:43,700
going to go over here.
That's that's that's not exactly

719
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,100
putting us in the best light so
now it's like, you know, more or

720
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:49,900
less you can you can take the
recruits.

721
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,700
Where you shown the meeting
rooms you can show them.

722
00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:55,900
Yeah, Players Lounge.
I mean, the locker room isn't so

723
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:58,500
the probably the locker was,
it's not that it's bad.

724
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:03,900
It's just that compared to
pretty much every other ACC and

725
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,600
especially if you know they CC,
no, no, don't go ACC.

726
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:11,500
They're like, we're like nine.
There's some pretty bad locker

727
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:15,100
and there are bad one, but I'm
saying is, is Back Nine where we

728
00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:19,400
want to be in the ACC team in
the country.

729
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,800
I take about 35 teams in the
country and what's going to

730
00:39:22,808 --> 00:39:25,200
happen is we're about to get
into the top 15 in the locker

731
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,300
room business read very soon
again.

732
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,200
Well, I'll save you.
It's waterslide money.

733
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,900
Not that Cabana money.
But what and bloods good enough

734
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,800
that is how many settle for the
water slide.

735
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,200
Let's get to the spring game.
We have dogged 30 minutes on the

736
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,000
Vibes and so, what happens when
I get on here and run my mouth,

737
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:52,500
that's what that is.
Let's take a look at the team's.

738
00:39:52,508 --> 00:39:54,300
The white team was definitely
missing some players.

739
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:58,400
I don't doubt that one bit, but,
I mean the routine definitely

740
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,800
have an advantage.
I mean, they had the Sam, the

741
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:08,600
mic in, the will starting line,
backers, Armani and Dorian along

742
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,900
with what fuga fucking garbage.
Yeah, we're good.

743
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:19,800
He didn't stack the team's, he
stacked.

744
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:27,800
The team's, I mean, I'll tell
you I'll tell you what, I'll

745
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,800
tell you what Pride it feels
good about a lot of positions on

746
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:36,500
this roster and those positions
were playing for the maroon team

747
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,400
played, its as its as simple as
that to me.

748
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,600
And you have some outliers right
with Pollard for example, right?

749
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,200
But like there are guys that he
feels really, really good.

750
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,800
About players that he feels
really, really good about

751
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,600
certain positions.
He's like, you know what, I want

752
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,800
to see what they look like.
I want to have 70% of my

753
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,300
starters here, Sofia, starters
there, that's what was apparent

754
00:40:58,300 --> 00:41:00,500
to me.
Great is, that was kind of, you

755
00:41:00,508 --> 00:41:03,200
know, watching the game on
Saturday and just kind of taking

756
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,300
a look at the rosters and trying
to get myself up to speed as

757
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:09,000
quickly as possible with who was
playing where, and for who and

758
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,100
all, you know, because it's hard
on TV, you know, I like you,

759
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:21,600
right.
Before the games because we're

760
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:30,300
basically.
All right, confirmed.

761
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:33,300
All right, I got that down.
So you're just trying trying to

762
00:41:33,308 --> 00:41:35,100
figure things out, you know, on
the fly.

763
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:38,100
But yeah, that was my date.
That was my major takeaway.

764
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:40,100
It's like I think Pride feels
good about a handful of

765
00:41:40,107 --> 00:41:42,500
positions on the roster.
I think, obviously a line

766
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:45,000
backing core is one of them.
I think, you know, the corn is

767
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,600
starting Corners.
I think he knows we're So what

768
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,600
he says about quarterback, I
think it's clear walls, is the

769
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,100
guy, right?
We'll get into that.

770
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:54,500
But yeah, I think it was pretty
pretty good about where he's at

771
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:56,400
with certain positions on the
roster and then I think there

772
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,500
are other positions that you
probably feel pretty good about

773
00:41:58,500 --> 00:41:59,900
that.
Maybe I don't feel so good

774
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:02,800
about.
So talk about that too.

775
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,800
But yeah we're going to hit all
the positions here to you

776
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,500
already mentioned it.
Let's start quarterback because

777
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:12,800
we didn't name a starter but I
think from the look of it, Wells

778
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:16,300
has firmly in control.
Brown has a rough day but it

779
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:20,800
looked like with Wells.
He felt comfortable out there

780
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,000
making the passes.
He did almost threw a couple

781
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,900
pics.
But to me, Jason Brown is going

782
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:32,500
to have to have a heroic fall
Camp to overtake Grant Wells.

783
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:36,200
Do y'all agree or disagree?
Yeah, I mean, I'll say I was

784
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,700
there.
I felt the same way I think

785
00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:43,200
Brown was a little bit
hamstrung, the offensive line

786
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,400
draw that he had, but sometimes,
even when he had time, I don't

787
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,600
know if it was just, you know,
being an see because of how

788
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,300
little time he had on other
place but he was a couple of the

789
00:42:54,308 --> 00:42:56,800
overthrows here and there even
when he had had a little bit of

790
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,200
time there.
Yeah.

791
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,800
Unfortunately blue had one one
drop of a good scramble throw.

792
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,500
He had I think was midway
through the through the Quarter

793
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:07,700
there.
I could have extended to drive

794
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:11,800
on a third down, but I mean,
overall, just not not a great

795
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,900
day for brown and I'd say a
pretty pretty, darn.

796
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:17,600
Good day for Wells.
He had one throw to.

797
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,700
I forget who it was.
It was a little bit behind

798
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,900
almost got picked off another
one in blue.

799
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:26,100
Maybe no, no blue is on white of
the was on white.

800
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,100
No.
Maybe it was might have been

801
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:30,000
might have been Lofton.
That was awesome.

802
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,900
The way first coordinating
behind him.

803
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:35,500
I think Marie almost pick.
It off.

804
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,900
Yeah.
But I mean other than that I

805
00:43:38,908 --> 00:43:43,000
mean he did a good job of being
in Rhythm thrown on time.

806
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,500
Yeah.
A couple good deep balls to

807
00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:49,800
Caleb Smith.
So not a whole lot to critique

808
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,100
you know bad other than like I
said being a little bit more

809
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:57,600
accurate on that that's square
into off to Me.

810
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,200
Maybe maybe a little more touch
on some of his throws, right?

811
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,900
I mean he did complete those two
deep balls to Caleb Smith.

812
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:06,700
I've watched Grand Throw and I'm
like, man, this guy loves to

813
00:44:06,707 --> 00:44:11,100
throw 90 miles per hour is like
the vibe I got but you know,

814
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,000
Tech has had a quarterback with
live arm like that in a while,

815
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,900
right?
I mean, Hooker Hooker, I guess

816
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,100
but, you know, he kept getting
banged up and then the offensive

817
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:23,500
line was was up and down and,
you know, he had some struggles

818
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:27,700
are but yet Grant Wells was
really, really impressive.

819
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:31,100
And you can just tell he's got
he's got more natural talent.

820
00:44:31,100 --> 00:44:33,400
That Jason Brown me, Jason
Browns, had a really nice

821
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:34,700
college career, kind of where
he's from.

822
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,600
Around, had a nice career at
Saint Frances and then transfers

823
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:41,100
down in South Carolina and plays
well, and then, you know, ends

824
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:44,500
up here back in Blacksburg and
his dream school, right?

825
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:46,700
This is kind of where he's
always wanted to be and kind of

826
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,700
going to be able to wrap up his
career, whether he plays a lot

827
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:51,500
or not you know he's going to
end up in a place where he's

828
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:54,300
always want to be.
It's a really cool story but you

829
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:58,100
look at G Wells and what he was
able to do at Marshall and now

830
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:02,600
you know transferring into Tech
and man he's got he's got the

831
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,700
skill right.
I mean you see it.

832
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:09,200
The ball jumps out of his hand.
It doesn't jump out Jason Browns

833
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,900
hand, right?
It's just different, you know?

834
00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:15,400
And I agree.
Brian like definitely did not

835
00:45:15,500 --> 00:45:17,400
stop.
Its why did not do Jason Brown,

836
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,100
any favors great definitely
didn't, I think he was seeing

837
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:24,100
ghosts a bit there in parts of
the second quarter.

838
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:27,100
Especially you look really
really uncomfortable back there

839
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,700
and and like you said, you know,
got Happy Feet missed a couple

840
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,000
throws a probably could have
made or should have made if he's

841
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,500
standing behind him or Cop in
offensive line, but he was never

842
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:41,100
really comfortable back there
and I put some of that on Jason

843
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:42,200
Brown.
I put a lot of it on the

844
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,900
offensive line.
I'm trying to be cautious

845
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:50,000
regarding kind of what we saw
their last Saturday because you

846
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,200
can only take so much of it with
a grain of salt.

847
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,600
You know, the fact that it's a
scrimmage and the fact that you

848
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,700
know you're playing with a bunch
of second and third string

849
00:45:57,700 --> 00:46:00,600
offensive lineman for most of
the game you know that does play

850
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,800
a factor certainly for any
quarterback but Grant Wellesley

851
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,700
Really, really good.
You mentioned the two throws to

852
00:46:07,700 --> 00:46:09,800
killed Smith and I will get in
the receiving Corps here in a

853
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,700
minute.
But you know Caleb Smith just

854
00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:17,700
physically, looks like a
different football player which

855
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:21,300
a welcome sight to Virginia,
Tech fans who, you know, text

856
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:23,900
looking for a true.
Number one, receiver now but

857
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:26,000
Avion gone and train.
Moving on.

858
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,600
No James Mitchell.
You know, they're looking for a

859
00:46:27,607 --> 00:46:30,800
number one Target and Kayla
says, a good, can it man?

860
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,900
If he if he looks like that this
fall and he can stay healthy.

861
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:36,100
It's true.
I'll tell you One else I noticed

862
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,900
in her two things, first of all,
both Brown and well, showed some

863
00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:44,300
athletic ability, when they
pulled the run the ball, I know

864
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:48,100
they weren't live, right?
But if anything, they look

865
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:51,300
decisive, like, when they re to
read they pulled and they took

866
00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:55,600
that step in with which if
you're not a 45 guy and you're

867
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,800
46, 47 being decisive is going
to help you get the extra yards.

868
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,800
The other pieces in this was for
both of them.

869
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,400
Where they missed when they
missed throws.

870
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,700
They missed correctly.
Brian me.

871
00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:10,700
And Brian talked about this a
couple days ago.

872
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,500
The it was a slight over throat,
it was to the right side of the

873
00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:17,400
shoulder where the other where
the it could not be picked.

874
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:24,000
I give Brad a ton of credit
because we hadn't seen that in

875
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,500
the last few years we hadn't
seen.

876
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,800
No, you need to throw the ball,
here's the angle.

877
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,600
You have to throw it out, your
guy can get it, they can And

878
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,200
that's huge.
Hey, Curtis giving giving a guy

879
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,600
named Brad, a bunch of credit,
something we have not been doing

880
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:46,100
in Blacksburg last year so so
that will get ready to play name

881
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:48,200
that Brad, right.
Exactly.

882
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,300
Now the other piece is let's
talk a little bit about ties in

883
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:55,300
Devon, you know, they both
showed they are super athletic

884
00:47:55,300 --> 00:48:01,300
guys, both with some big runs
Devin 0 for 1 in passes ties.

885
00:48:01,300 --> 00:48:04,600
I think 14.
For or something like that.

886
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:08,400
I mean are we just going to be
these guys are probably going to

887
00:48:08,408 --> 00:48:11,600
be battling in the fall and
whoever's not the practice squad

888
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,700
quarterback is probably going to
transfer out.

889
00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:17,800
Come the yeah I mean if we maybe
Farrell hangs around and lose

890
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,200
the receiver or something.
Yeah, I mean, I think if we're

891
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,500
being honest with ourselves, I
think I think Tom's bollocks in

892
00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:25,400
a spot where he could be looking
elsewhere.

893
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:31,400
I came from a really good
program in Jersey, right?

894
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,200
Like a Really good, high school
football program.

895
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,600
I mean, I want to throw shade
towards bullets have let it kid,

896
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,400
but he was raw coming as a
passer.

897
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,000
He was most athletic guy on the
field.

898
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,200
In high school.
His tape showed that he was not

899
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,800
the most proficient passer, you
know, on the field, they played

900
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,200
a really good football program.
So, you know, taking a chance on

901
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,800
him, you know, especially in a
class where, you know, you're

902
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,100
hoping to have a guy like two
major is Davis, right?

903
00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:01,300
And you're like, all right,
we're moving on to Taj Bullock.

904
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,100
It's like, all right, That's,
that's not the major is Davis,

905
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:07,500
but you know, now he's playing
what UTSA?

906
00:49:07,500 --> 00:49:10,400
Thank you God.
No, no, no, no, no South

907
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:17,200
Alabama, he's an FCS now.
Just I saw some on Twitter.

908
00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:19,000
I saw someone on Twitter
yesterday about how we got like,

909
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:23,100
a UTSA crystal ball.
I was like, uh, what that was it

910
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:24,900
and then he committed to South
Alabama.

911
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,500
That's why he somehow outdid
himself there.

912
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:32,800
But I mean going from point
being you're going from Davis to

913
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,500
Bullock, right?
And you know, bollocks in the

914
00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:37,200
spot where you're like, all
right?

915
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,000
Tech needs to develop a Young
quarterback behind whoever ends

916
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,900
up being the quarterback.
After all these transfers

917
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:47,700
happen, just Where we were at
the time and you know, he comes

918
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:51,600
in last year and when he didn't
get playing time under Fuente in

919
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,900
a lame-duck year, when all your
quarterbacks were bad, that's

920
00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:57,200
when I knew I was like, man,
Bullock really must not be

921
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,800
ready.
You know, that was the kind of

922
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,600
the indication for me and a lot
of people were talking about

923
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,900
bringing throw them in the game.
Let's see what he's got, man,

924
00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:09,300
text quarterbacks that Fuente
and Company thought were

925
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:12,000
capable, we're not playing very
well.

926
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,200
And now you think a true
freshman Shman getting thrown

927
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,100
into the fire when he's a raw
passer.

928
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:18,500
You think that's going to work
too.

929
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,100
And look, we weren't crazy,
right?

930
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:26,300
Because now, Brent pride comes
in and he said right away, it's

931
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:28,700
going to be a wide-open
quarterback competition and

932
00:50:28,700 --> 00:50:31,600
before you know it Bullock is
buried on the depth chart and

933
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,100
it's like all right well maybe
this isn't going to work out

934
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,400
here so yeah what will see
right?

935
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,800
We'll we'll obviously see what
happens.

936
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,500
But I mean it's pretty clear who
the one and two are going to be

937
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:46,200
this year and Whatever order
they end up in, I think we think

938
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,200
it's gonna be Wells and then
brown, but I mean, I think

939
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,300
Bullock is likely a transfer
candidate bollocks got a lot of

940
00:50:54,308 --> 00:50:56,900
time.
He has less position flexibility

941
00:50:56,900 --> 00:50:59,000
act.
He's gonna at least be sitting

942
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,100
behind the presumptive starter
for three years.

943
00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:05,300
The the less flexibility is a
huge thing, right?

944
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:09,400
Because Farrell Farrell I think
is more of an athlete you kind

945
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,100
of slide all over the place.
Like if bollocks off playing

946
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:13,400
quarterback on the way he's
playing.

947
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:58,700
So what kind of beer
with Malachi and tell him what

948
00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:02,100
to tell Mike what you feel like
you saw from just being around

949
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:05,100
him just for a couple minutes.
I mean he looks bigger than you

950
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:07,400
did last year.
I mean I know when he got in the

951
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,200
games a lot last year we like
node okay.

952
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,700
Here he looks good running the
ball but he needs to give the

953
00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:16,200
gym like you know, skinny legs a
little bit, little bit, skinny

954
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,100
arm, looks like it's got a
little bit more definition a

955
00:52:18,107 --> 00:52:21,800
little bit more size on on him
now, hopefully, he can take a

956
00:52:21,808 --> 00:52:26,400
little bit more of those, you
know, carries in a game because

957
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,400
he's probably going to be that
guy.

958
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,300
That's going to get get you
about 15 carries a game, this

959
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:33,900
year.
Looking at what they've done

960
00:52:33,900 --> 00:52:36,800
historically, with, with games
that bone is called, you know,

961
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,100
he likes to get guys, guys,
touches you Usually two to three

962
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:43,200
guys are going to get over 10
carries, but we can get Malachi,

963
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:48,400
that 15 carrier range.
Every game that have Holston or

964
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,200
somebody else getting 10 or 12 a
game.

965
00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:52,800
That's probably going to be the
way to go.

966
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,900
But if you can get that 15 carry
a game for us, that's going to

967
00:52:55,900 --> 00:53:00,100
be huge.
Yeah, I mean, I Malachi was so

968
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:01,600
good last year, second half
year.

969
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,100
When the season spiraling out of
control, it was like, alright

970
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:07,100
man, this is the one bright spot
rights like this Rich really

971
00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:10,300
cool to see him kind of develop.
See a Get in and play

972
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:14,000
significant snaps and be able
to, you know, play as well as he

973
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,300
did.
But that was always a concern.

974
00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:18,600
It was like, man, he's got to
put some weight on and

975
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,800
realistically he wasn't ready to
play from like a build

976
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,700
standpoint, right?
And that's really good to hear.

977
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:26,500
He's put on weight I mean I'm
not surprised when looking at

978
00:53:26,508 --> 00:53:29,700
Kayla Smith and pads and like
all right it these guys been hit

979
00:53:29,700 --> 00:53:31,000
but later on they look a little
bit there.

980
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,500
But yeah, I mean attack in the
running back room.

981
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:37,900
They got to figure things out
here.

982
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,200
I mean, I know, Oh, Bronson
transferred out yesterday.

983
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:42,900
Yeah, yeah.
I guess yesterday.

984
00:53:43,300 --> 00:53:44,500
Already at a mime.
Oh, hi.

985
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:47,700
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, announces.

986
00:53:47,700 --> 00:53:50,600
He's transferring it like nine
and then has this new school at

987
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,100
11.
So I think that's been planned

988
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:54,900
out for a little bit.
Yeah, that's been in the work.

989
00:53:55,100 --> 00:54:01,200
There's a reason he didn't give
me carries leading, it carries

990
00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:03,600
Lee was on the field.
He just didn't get in touch.

991
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,000
Yeah, I mean, Kristen got
minimal.

992
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,200
I mean, it's kind of the
writing's on the wall with

993
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:10,900
What's going on the running back
room?

994
00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:13,100
You know, Hampton got a couple
good runs.

995
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:14,800
Yeah.
That one good run where he kind

996
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,300
of broke it outside, got him.
Yeah, 15 yards.

997
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:20,900
Yep.
In the but the way it's looking

998
00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:24,400
on in the fall with Malachi you
mentioned Holston you know black

999
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,900
and King have their roles right?
They both can catch the ball

1000
00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:28,400
back.
Don't ever turn bility?

1001
00:54:29,900 --> 00:54:34,200
I mean in you it's kind of the
writing on the wall, right?

1002
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,200
Who got carries ones, already
out the door ones looks like

1003
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,400
he's in the doghouse.
Ace.

1004
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,500
I mean the question is when did
they go into the portal?

1005
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:48,800
Because yeah, let's take this
want to stay here unless they

1006
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:54,200
love the culture, which, you
know I think what you're going

1007
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,100
to see two is and we're already
started.

1008
00:54:57,100 --> 00:55:00,300
We've already started to see it
with you know, guys switching

1009
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:04,400
positions and and Prime
movements guys around and you

1010
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,700
know I think there's a decent
chance.

1011
00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:09,100
You see, no pun intended, decent
chance to see chance.

1012
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:12,900
Like in the slot, you know,
playing some receiver, which I

1013
00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:15,700
mean they were talking about
that with want a right there

1014
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:18,600
saying, okay, but you know, just
looking as high school film, it

1015
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,100
was like this guy can wind up
everywhere.

1016
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,300
And I think prize acknowledge
that, and I think they're going

1017
00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:27,500
to try to get transplant and
some different opportunities,

1018
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:33,500
you know, both the receiver
running back because I mean I

1019
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:35,900
see what I see with want a was
doing, you know, getting 12 or

1020
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:39,300
13 running backs, you know, step
ahead of everybody else.

1021
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:43,100
You know, just get as many guys
as you can and then figure out

1022
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,900
no idea what he was doing.
But now you're in a spot where

1023
00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:50,700
you got to get the roster back
down to, you know, a manner that

1024
00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:52,200
makes sense.
And yeah, I do think the

1025
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,700
writing's on the wall, right?
And I was really excited about

1026
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:57,000
Kenji.
Christian as a prospect, but I'm

1027
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:59,400
not sure he's going to be
playing football in Blacksburg,

1028
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,000
you know.
Yeah, yeah.

1029
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,200
And I do think the writing's on
the wall, I mean, I think

1030
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,600
Holston sticking around, you
know, throws a wrench into

1031
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,200
Kenji, Christians snaps, I think
a little bit.

1032
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,800
See now you don't have like a
big body back that, you know,

1033
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,100
can step in right?
And you're like, alright, that

1034
00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:19,400
may be a natural fit for Kenji
Christian.

1035
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,600
Now holsters back and Keshawn
King everybody thought was going

1036
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,600
to transfer out when you know,
all the roster attrition when

1037
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,500
Pride came in and King stuck
around.

1038
00:56:29,500 --> 00:56:30,900
Okay, so now it's like all
right, we know.

1039
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:33,600
King has talent.
If the coaching staff likes and

1040
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,800
he'll figure it out, and then
you got Malachi Thomas.

1041
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,800
We saw what he did in limited
snaps and then you have chance

1042
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,400
black, you have Bryce Juke,
obviously, that the coaching

1043
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,800
staffs really, really excited
about, you know, they've been

1044
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,800
talking about him at length in
the offseason.

1045
00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:51,100
So there are certainly some guys
that are going to have some

1046
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:54,900
opportunities here.
And I think, the guys who got

1047
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:58,000
carries on Saturday and the guys
who stuck around in the

1048
00:56:58,008 --> 00:57:00,700
recruiting class with Brent, pry
and stayed in the boat like

1049
00:57:00,700 --> 00:57:02,000
those are the guys in the
running.

1050
00:57:02,100 --> 00:57:06,400
Back room who are going to have,
you know, maybe a little bit

1051
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,700
higher priority, you know for
the staff.

1052
00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:11,900
And some of these other guys
that maybe we were excited about

1053
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:14,100
like Kenji, Christian or Marco
Ali, right?

1054
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:17,600
Or Bronson or Hampton like I
think that's kind of where we're

1055
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,900
going to be out here.
Yeah, I mean, we look at the the

1056
00:57:20,900 --> 00:57:25,700
combination of Thomas Christian
and black.

1057
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:29,900
I mean you saw the thought
process at least in bringing

1058
00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:32,800
those three guys in one class
because they really Out of your

1059
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,400
Thomas, the more All Around,
Back Kenji, kind of the the

1060
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,400
between the tackles specialist
and then you had chance life and

1061
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,100
kind of do a little bit of
everything especially help you

1062
00:57:43,107 --> 00:57:45,500
in the passing game.
There was at least a thought

1063
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:48,500
process there with these.
These three can be kind of that

1064
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,900
three headed monster in two to
three years.

1065
00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:54,900
But yeah with where we are.
I think in the process and as

1066
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:57,100
you said with Holston coming
back, I think that kind of threw

1067
00:57:57,100 --> 00:57:59,600
a wrench in.
We're Christian is, you know, on

1068
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,000
top of whatever else you may be
behind?

1069
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:06,000
And him not getting as many as
many touches and kind of falling

1070
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,900
behind in the depth chart there.
It's going to be interesting

1071
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:13,900
because we have, I think Hampton
might be the, the one that

1072
00:58:13,900 --> 00:58:19,100
sticks around of the that 20 and
21 class group of running backs.

1073
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,200
He seemed like he was
comfortable in what the offense

1074
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,800
is doing and if he's willing to
to bide his time a little bit,

1075
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,800
you know, there might be a role
for him in a year or two.

1076
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:36,300
Yeah, I mean I think when, you
know, you see a Holston, you

1077
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:40,200
know, leave you see, you know,
maybe a chance black move to

1078
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,800
receiver.
You know, then all the sudden

1079
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,900
your before, you know, it,
you're on like, a two or three

1080
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:46,500
deep.
And if you're on the three deep,

1081
00:58:46,500 --> 00:58:49,300
like you mentioned, Brian
earlier, if you're on a 3D, the

1082
00:58:49,300 --> 00:58:51,700
running back for Tyler bones
offense, you're getting snaps.

1083
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,300
Your plan.
So really, I mean I don't think

1084
00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:59,500
any of these guys realistic they
were looking at is like, oh, I'm

1085
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:01,800
the starting running back
because felons going to use all

1086
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:05,400
of them and if you're, if you're
into two or three deep, you

1087
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,200
know, you're going to have a
real opportunity gum.

1088
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:12,400
Feel abso-freakin'-lutely.
Now is many questions as we have

1089
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,500
about the running back room and,
you know, people not playing

1090
00:59:15,500 --> 00:59:20,000
who's leaving, who's not?
I think Saturday the wide

1091
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,400
receiver room kind of Came to
light.

1092
00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:29,200
We saw, you know, Caleb Smith
obviously have a great game like

1093
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,500
you said he's looks physically
more impressive.

1094
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,600
Jane blue had a drop again.
Little hindered, probably by,

1095
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,300
you know, the offensive line but
I know Brian mentioned just

1096
00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:41,400
watching him.
Run route, his route for solid

1097
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,000
there.
Chris.

1098
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:45,900
He was open a few times, just
there wasn't time to get wasn't

1099
00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:48,200
there.
He still made a couple couple of

1100
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,600
patches in the game.
So I mean.

1101
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:50,500
Yeah.
Played.

1102
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:53,200
Well just, you know, not As many
opportunities.

1103
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,900
I think we wanted to give him.
Obviously, the Wayne Lofton that

1104
00:59:56,900 --> 00:59:59,000
shocked me and Brian that catch
him.

1105
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,500
A was out of why that was not a
slot catch that.

1106
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:05,200
He made that big one which, you
know, they've been mentioned.

1107
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,800
They've been moving them around.
Seeing him play that he's going

1108
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,000
to get on the field more.
And then the last two, Jalen

1109
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,200
Jones had a Richmond here with
the big catch, and then Brian

1110
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,000
again, prime loves downright
bronze, love downright.

1111
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,900
Since the first time, you looked
at his tape, you focused on him

1112
01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:24,300
sad.
Add a similar to Blue, right?

1113
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,300
Similar to Blue looked good in
his routes, was Miss a few

1114
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,400
times.
He was Opie was wide, open a

1115
01:00:30,408 --> 01:00:32,200
couple times, just the Rover
throughs.

1116
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:35,100
He did have I think what?
One, or two catches on the day.

1117
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:39,700
So yeah, one right down writes,
a damn white?

1118
01:00:39,700 --> 01:00:42,700
Well, well, he's on the roster,
but as he really exists, right?

1119
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,700
He's around there somewhere.
Yeah.

1120
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,800
I mean, I agree with the
assessment to be honest with you

1121
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:54,900
guys, like I was so, To see
Lofton and Jalen Jones down the

1122
01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:57,200
field last year.
And then all of a sudden like

1123
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,400
your comes walk and get a little
bit more playing time then

1124
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,900
towards the end of year was
like, oh Jones we're really

1125
01:01:01,900 --> 01:01:04,500
excited about Jalen Jones.
That's all, you know, the staff

1126
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:07,300
talk about and Jones, pulled a
hamstring or whatever it was, he

1127
01:01:07,308 --> 01:01:10,600
was at a little while and then
they really on the field to

1128
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,200
later in the year but not
obviously has made meaningful.

1129
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:17,300
Snaps is Lofton.
But I think now you look at you

1130
01:01:17,300 --> 01:01:20,600
know those two in particular and
that's the future of the wide

1131
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,200
receiver position at Virginia
Tech.

1132
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,600
And they're going to be playing
significant snaps as fall and

1133
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,700
that's really exciting.
I think for Virginia Tech fans

1134
01:01:26,700 --> 01:01:29,900
because, you know, we talked
about Caleb Smith and how he,

1135
01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:32,100
how good he's like physically.
And I think, you know, obviously

1136
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:34,800
he's going to have a major role,
you know, we can talk about

1137
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,000
Jaden blue but he's a grad
transfer, right?

1138
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,700
But when you're talking about
the true, like future of the

1139
01:01:38,707 --> 01:01:42,100
position it's Lofton and Jones
and it's been locked in and

1140
01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:46,000
Jones and I think you see them,
you know, have an opportunity,

1141
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,600
this fall to blossom into a
bigger role as Virginia Tech,

1142
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:51,300
kind of moves forward, and the
roster continues to improve.

1143
01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:54,800
I think a few years from now
these guys are seniors.

1144
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:57,800
You know, there's going to be a
real opportunity for them to be

1145
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,500
part of a really, really good
offense or Virginia Tech and for

1146
01:02:00,500 --> 01:02:02,400
them to be a kind of the focal
points out that.

1147
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:05,600
So we're going to have an
opportunity here, you know, both

1148
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,400
last year and kind of Slam Dunk
here.

1149
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,900
And then like during this
rebuild here, where we're going

1150
01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:13,600
to see, you know, some young
guys really start to Blossom and

1151
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,300
turn into like really, really
good for your players or

1152
01:02:16,300 --> 01:02:17,900
Virginia Tech as long as they
stick around.

1153
01:02:19,300 --> 01:02:21,200
Yeah, I was really excited to
see Joan show out.

1154
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,500
He had that big Jew, con Connor
where he was able to take that

1155
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:28,000
quick hitter and get about 15
yards out of it.

1156
01:02:28,300 --> 01:02:31,200
Had one other good catch.
I mean, there was a lot of

1157
01:02:31,207 --> 01:02:34,100
promise from the young guys and
that definitely bodes.

1158
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:36,600
Well for the like as you said
for the future, not just looking

1159
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:38,100
to 2022.
So yeah.

1160
01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:43,500
That was big seeing what?
At least a little bit of what

1161
01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:46,800
Connor Blum Works.
Role might be in this offense.

1162
01:02:47,300 --> 01:02:51,100
Very vanilla on Turday, very
vanilla, they're hiding him,

1163
01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:55,600
they're like just a couple quick
hitters, just giving the ball to

1164
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,500
him out of the backfield.
Nothing really to show yet but I

1165
01:02:59,500 --> 01:03:02,900
am so excited to see what
language they line them up

1166
01:03:02,900 --> 01:03:05,700
everywhere though.
So I think we actually became a

1167
01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:08,200
focal point.
I think that'll you'll see what

1168
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,500
what he can do in that.
What do you think about the

1169
01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:15,700
tight ends?
We didn't really see a lot of

1170
01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:19,600
different looks with them in
terms of getting them the ball.

1171
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:23,700
But yeah, I mean it's really
hard to go from like the

1172
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:25,800
excitement of having James
Mitchell being you're starting

1173
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,500
tight end and being like Nick,
Al's always been that guy who

1174
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,400
it's like, oh yeah, I remember
he's on the team.

1175
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,100
He makes like one big catcher
like yeah.

1176
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:35,500
Hell yeah, Nick Gallo.
We got we got into really good

1177
01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:36,900
tight ends.
Yeah, you're just like trying to

1178
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:40,300
talk yourself into it and it's
cool though, right?

1179
01:03:40,300 --> 01:03:43,000
Because you see, you know, you
see gallop.

1180
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,400
And like significant snaps.
You see him like getting these

1181
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,000
awards from the coaches and talk
about how good of a spring.

1182
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,000
He's had text going to need
somebody in that tight end her

1183
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,500
to step up like Gallows, the
most logical guy, right?

1184
01:03:56,500 --> 01:04:00,500
And because everybody talks
about all what's called our

1185
01:04:00,500 --> 01:04:03,400
plumber, Exposition going to be
its kind of plumbers can be

1186
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,800
Connor blumrich because W reg a
puppy, he was an offensive

1187
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,500
weapon.
That is like Brian said

1188
01:04:10,100 --> 01:04:12,200
everywhere.
He's gonna be everywhere on the

1189
01:04:12,207 --> 01:04:15,300
field and back.
That's that's good for, it's

1190
01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:18,500
good for Gallo Redskins while
the wide receivers good for the

1191
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:23,400
running backs that every week
with blumrich, going out there

1192
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,000
teams are going to have to find
it because if you put the wrong

1193
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,000
guy on Blown wrecking, get him
the ball quick.

1194
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,600
Like if you put the wrong
linebacker he can make him Miss

1195
01:04:31,700 --> 01:04:34,500
and get down the field.
If you put a corner on him and

1196
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:36,500
that corner came a cashier
tackle, he's going to put them

1197
01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:39,100
in the dirt because of having
the size advantage.

1198
01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:43,600
Yeah so he's going to help
everybody in the lon.

1199
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,100
Yeah I know David Cunningham
first of all he did a great job

1200
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:50,500
with you guys a couple weeks
back that podcast was incredible

1201
01:04:50,900 --> 01:04:55,100
but he was he was tweeting out
some some news and notes and was

1202
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:58,100
taking some pictures and video
from a few attacks practices and

1203
01:04:58,100 --> 01:05:01,300
talk about how good honorable
America looked at receiver.

1204
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,300
It's like, you know, you got
these guys who were like,

1205
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:08,000
seasoned receivers who have, you
know, like Caleb Smith who yeah,

1206
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,100
doesn't drop anything really?
In Australia catches everything.

1207
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,000
And you know, you're watching
these guys in line and for these

1208
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,400
reporters to be talking about
Connor, blumrich and saying he

1209
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,400
looks like any of the other
receivers.

1210
01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:23,900
When in reality, he was just
playing quarterback all last

1211
01:05:23,900 --> 01:05:28,500
year and was playing like HVAC
essentially at a.m. after Colin

1212
01:05:28,500 --> 01:05:30,400
mod beat him out.
Yep.

1213
01:05:30,900 --> 01:05:36,100
Like that's that's encouraging.
And the way I look at one,

1214
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:38,800
that's another offensive weapon
that we didn't have last year.

1215
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,100
I mean that's that's that's the
way I look at it.

1216
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:45,900
I mean we saw in the bowl game,
you know, one of the few bright

1217
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:48,600
spots of Connor, bomber candy
bowl game is like, we at least

1218
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,300
saw his athletic ability a
little bit.

1219
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:52,700
Yeah, nothing's really going
well.

1220
01:05:52,700 --> 01:05:55,200
But, you know, he's athletic.
He tries hard.

1221
01:05:55,400 --> 01:06:00,200
Yeah, and I see him as more of
like utility guy in baseball

1222
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,600
where he's playing like five or
six days a week and you know

1223
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,800
he's kind of just giving
everybody else a break.

1224
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,400
Like that's kind of how I see
Connor polemics roll, like he's

1225
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:12,100
going to be on the field of ton.
And one staff is going to be

1226
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:15,500
lined up at outside receiver and
you know, Caleb says going to be

1227
01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:17,200
off the field and then another
staff.

1228
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,400
He's going to be in the slot and
like walk is going to be off the

1229
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,400
field and like I can see him
jumping around.

1230
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,100
Maybe he's lined up in the
backfield like bones.

1231
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:25,300
Got a line them up all over the
place so you're gonna he's gonna

1232
01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:27,000
give everybody a break, we're
gonna lose.

1233
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,000
Well, it's going to be so good
because it's going to give us

1234
01:06:30,500 --> 01:06:33,000
that formation flexibility and
like the hurry-up.

1235
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,300
No-huddle situations.
He's right.

1236
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,900
You can do a lot of different
things with kind of blood work

1237
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:40,800
on the field because you can
slide Can split about, you can

1238
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,600
be the middle guy and trips.
He can be in line, he can be

1239
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,400
tight in Wing.
He can he can really do all

1240
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,000
those things and even line up
outside and you don't have sub,

1241
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:51,400
you can just keep going, keep
going.

1242
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,000
If you got to be vents on the
ropes, just keep pushing it and

1243
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,600
still give them a lot of
different looks.

1244
01:06:55,700 --> 01:06:58,400
And like I think in theory like
want a staff, wanted James

1245
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,100
Mitchell who that guy and they
wanted like Dalton came to be

1246
01:07:01,100 --> 01:07:03,600
that guy and they'd be like, one
of these guys kind of line up

1247
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,500
everywhere they wanted to
really, really wander him.

1248
01:07:06,500 --> 01:07:09,000
Like, to be that guy.
And then, you know, either he

1249
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:10,800
didn't say how Ethier, they just
don't utilize them.

1250
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,900
Like I should write.
And I think one more clearly has

1251
01:07:13,900 --> 01:07:16,600
an opportunity because of his
unique size and speed and

1252
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,500
athleticism.
I just think it's kind of like a

1253
01:07:18,508 --> 01:07:22,100
different mold or he really can
lot of anywhere we can.

1254
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,400
All right somewhere, he can't
line up is the offensive line

1255
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:31,100
and Brian, this is your baby.
We are an offensive mom dad.

1256
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:36,300
Can I let you tell me what you
saw out there Saturday actually

1257
01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:40,500
in person which I know Is we
know being that close to the

1258
01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:43,300
field as you were, you get to
see certain things you can't see

1259
01:07:43,300 --> 01:07:45,600
on TV.
Yeah, I mean, being an offensive

1260
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,500
lineman when I was watching the
game live, I was mostly paying

1261
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:51,800
attention to the offensive line
when I was watching it live the

1262
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,100
first time.
So that's just, that's just who

1263
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:57,500
I am.
I thought the for starters like

1264
01:07:57,500 --> 01:08:00,100
the presumptive starters that
presumptive first team, that

1265
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:03,600
actually played since Clements
wasn't out there, he was banged

1266
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,900
up.
I thought they looked fine.

1267
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,900
I think probably the weakest
would have been Jesse Hansen.

1268
01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:15,600
I mean he had some some good
place and bad place but I think

1269
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,899
overall the guys that we think
are going to be that Frontline,

1270
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:25,600
had a pretty good spring game.
I think the problem is that we

1271
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,800
have seen that based on the
performance, especially on the

1272
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,899
white side that, you know, we
don't I'm not sure we've got

1273
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:37,200
more than five or six guys that
we can count on at this point.

1274
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:40,399
And I think that's where we're
going to run into some problems.

1275
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:43,399
I will say, of the non
presumptive starters.

1276
01:08:43,399 --> 01:08:49,300
I thought Jack hollifield, look
pretty good, Dan, encouraging

1277
01:08:49,300 --> 01:08:54,700
sign, Meg, that's encouraging,
that was a position switch,

1278
01:08:54,700 --> 01:08:56,000
right?
At least coming out of high

1279
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,700
school were like where's he
actually it wasn't like formerly

1280
01:08:58,700 --> 01:09:00,600
a prime position switch but I
come out High School.

1281
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,200
We're like alright Jack where
are you playing?

1282
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:05,700
Keep it lean tight end you
playing off its lower you doing.

1283
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:09,700
Offensive lines of huge concern
for me guys.

1284
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:14,000
Huge concern and we'll talk
about the offensive line in a

1285
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,300
bit, but I'm worried about us in
the trenches and I'm not talking

1286
01:09:17,300 --> 01:09:21,300
about the starters talking about
the talking about the kind of

1287
01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:24,500
the rotation and, you know, you
get three or four games into

1288
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,500
into the season you got guys
banged up and who you turn into.

1289
01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:29,600
Like, that's my, that's my
concern.

1290
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,399
And there's there's there's
mostly at tackle.

1291
01:09:33,100 --> 01:09:37,000
Yeah.
I mean and Brian, I know you

1292
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,300
talk.
About this at length on this

1293
01:09:38,300 --> 01:09:42,500
podcast, but you know, you think
you can cover up some stuff on

1294
01:09:42,500 --> 01:09:46,100
the interior offensive line.
You can't cover up, offensive

1295
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:48,399
tackle, when they're out on
island, it's just really

1296
01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:51,399
especially left tackle with with
the quarterbacks we have in this

1297
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:53,600
offense and it's going to be a
concern.

1298
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:57,000
Yeah you can help out a right
tackle from time to time with

1299
01:09:57,000 --> 01:10:00,400
scheme and things like that.
Right left tackle casual gonna

1300
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:04,900
be hard to cover and right now
we have two that I feel okay

1301
01:10:04,900 --> 01:10:06,100
about?
Yeah.

1302
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:10,600
And It's gonna be rough, it's
concerned.

1303
01:10:10,700 --> 01:10:13,200
Yeah, it's definitely a concern.
I mean, it was offensive line

1304
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:17,500
was concerned going to last year
to of it and I mean the way I

1305
01:10:17,500 --> 01:10:21,100
look at this is that, you know,
there is a portal out there.

1306
01:10:21,700 --> 01:10:25,600
There is we can maybe we can
find a guy or two, you know, to

1307
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,700
come in that we know is played,
you know, meaningful snaps

1308
01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:30,400
elsewhere.
Like last year, Johnny Jordan

1309
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,600
was that guy who you know, we
knew it broke off and went down.

1310
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,400
Maybe Johnny Jordan could step
in and play because he was The

1311
01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:40,500
all-big ten honorable mention at
Maryland, and we're like,

1312
01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:42,100
alright, you can step in and
play.

1313
01:10:42,100 --> 01:10:45,200
I thought he would get more
snaps than he did last year, but

1314
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:48,000
maybe we can go find a guy like
that in the portal, you know,

1315
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,700
this summer.
I think that's especially a

1316
01:10:51,700 --> 01:10:54,600
tackle like that somewhere where
I think Brent prying his staff

1317
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,200
really need to hit hard because
there's nothing.

1318
01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,800
I really saw out of the white
team on the offensive line that

1319
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,600
really gave me a whole lot of
confidence.

1320
01:11:03,500 --> 01:11:06,400
Grabbing a decent spot on.
The only thing is Brian,

1321
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,700
mentioned to me the other Day.
He thought she could probably

1322
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:13,500
kick in and be solid guard, but
we are definitely going to be.

1323
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:16,800
We have to go after the portal
with the tackle.

1324
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:21,400
I mean, they have to attack it,
they have to.

1325
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,900
Hopefully, the hope is you find
someone that's a sophomore or

1326
01:11:24,900 --> 01:11:28,600
Redshirt sophomore, and come in
to get multiple years of

1327
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:33,000
Eligibility.
So, I mean, I think the things

1328
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:36,000
you really want you either, get
you want to get a guy that you

1329
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,400
can either plug and play in. the
starting lineup or you want to

1330
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:43,700
get a guy that Can at least be
that solid backup, whether it's

1331
01:11:44,100 --> 01:11:45,700
on the left side or the right
side.

1332
01:11:45,700 --> 01:11:48,700
Or like I said, if you ever get
a Frontline guy, you can do one

1333
01:11:48,700 --> 01:11:52,100
of two things you can either
have Clements be kind of groom

1334
01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:55,600
him to be the left tackle and
waiting for next year or you can

1335
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,800
go ahead and plug whoever that
addition is at left tackle and

1336
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,400
so in slide Silas down to guard,
which gives you a little bit of

1337
01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:05,100
a stronger light across the
board.

1338
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,900
Well, I think I think a lot of
us thought last year like that's

1339
01:12:08,900 --> 01:12:10,600
where the giant Journey example
comes in, right?

1340
01:12:10,700 --> 01:12:12,400
I think a lot of us thought last
year, okay?

1341
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,000
We're bringing in an all Big
Ten.

1342
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,500
Honorable mention offensive,
lineman naturally, he's going to

1343
01:12:17,508 --> 01:12:19,400
come in because Chris and
aerosol Left, Right?

1344
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,100
Went to the NFL.
We all thought, okay, naturally.

1345
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:25,100
Johnny, Jordan's going to come
in and Brock office, get bumped

1346
01:12:25,100 --> 01:12:27,000
to guard.
And now all of a sudden, we feel

1347
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,100
pretty good about where things
are at on the offensive line

1348
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:30,900
will try to cover up right
tackle.

1349
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:33,800
You know, that was kind of what
we were talking about after

1350
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,600
flipping to new to the left and
it didn't really pan out that

1351
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,400
way, right?
This Kayden more developed into

1352
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,000
a really nice player, which I
We're all happy about that now

1353
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,700
because he's got a full year of
experience and he's gonna step

1354
01:12:44,700 --> 01:12:47,600
in and I think we all have
pretty high expectations for

1355
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:51,400
him, you know, going into going
into this here, but I agree.

1356
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,500
Like finding a guy like that.
Who could step into your starter

1357
01:12:54,500 --> 01:12:56,200
right away.
You know you pull you can plug

1358
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:58,900
plug and play, right?
Who comes in from another

1359
01:12:58,900 --> 01:13:01,500
program where doesn't
necessarily need to be, you

1360
01:13:01,500 --> 01:13:03,700
know, a P5.
It could be a G5 program, that's

1361
01:13:03,700 --> 01:13:05,100
fine.
But just find somebody with

1362
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:08,500
meaningful who's had meaningful
snaps is played you know good

1363
01:13:08,500 --> 01:13:11,700
football somewhere I think
that's really Important for this

1364
01:13:11,700 --> 01:13:14,500
roster, it would be great if it
was a tackle because I am

1365
01:13:14,500 --> 01:13:18,900
concerned that offensive tackle.
But that's my that's my biggest

1366
01:13:18,900 --> 01:13:20,900
area concern.
Is this offensive line without a

1367
01:13:20,907 --> 01:13:24,800
doubt on the entire roster?
Yeah I'm do I put it as the

1368
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,500
number one concern?
Yeah.

1369
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,700
All right, before we get into
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1370
01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:33,400
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Dash report now back to the
episode, all right, back to the

1379
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,800
defensive side of the ball here
and let's start with the

1380
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:07,400
linebacker unit and I told Brian
this.

1381
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,000
I think I texted you.
Sunday.

1382
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:12,200
Brian.
Fat unit, looks the best across

1383
01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:16,200
the board.
I mean, starters to deep, even

1384
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:22,300
some of the 3D guys, look legit.
And we all thought about saying

1385
01:14:22,300 --> 01:14:27,000
all men were all worried about
Sam Kion to Jenkins is going to

1386
01:14:27,008 --> 01:14:31,200
be a hell of a Sam this year.
Yeah, I'll be out the gate, he

1387
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,400
looked pretty good, he was
making some plays.

1388
01:14:34,900 --> 01:14:37,400
We saw Kelly Lawson get in there
and play.

1389
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,000
Well, as at that position, as
well as in jail.

1390
01:14:40,700 --> 01:14:42,600
Yeah.
And as you said the unit look

1391
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:49,100
good across the board, I think
we have, you know, legitimately

1392
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:53,300
a solid two teeth are when you
have you know, Dad accent is

1393
01:14:53,300 --> 01:14:56,900
coming off the field, you not as
worried as you were maybe last

1394
01:14:56,900 --> 01:14:59,700
year at this time, especially at
the back.

1395
01:14:59,900 --> 01:15:05,500
Position and artist looked well
again, you know hopefully you

1396
01:15:05,500 --> 01:15:09,300
know coach prize talked about
his becoming more of a focal

1397
01:15:09,300 --> 01:15:12,500
leader on that defense if that
comes along and you've got, you

1398
01:15:12,508 --> 01:15:17,300
know, to legitimate leaders like
Dax and and Keyshawn on that

1399
01:15:17,300 --> 01:15:21,300
defense, that's going to be big
for that unit and they look

1400
01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:24,700
better.
Like the coaching is obvious

1401
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:30,200
like there wasn't At times last
year, and even the year before

1402
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,700
that, sometimes our linebackers
looked lost.

1403
01:15:32,700 --> 01:15:35,300
And I know they were going
against the vanilla game plan

1404
01:15:35,500 --> 01:15:38,700
and all that.
But I didn't see a time where

1405
01:15:38,700 --> 01:15:40,700
our linebackers looked lost in
this one.

1406
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:46,600
I mean, this is what happens
when you get a defensive

1407
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,300
coordinator, and we all love
Justin Hamilton, right almost

1408
01:15:49,300 --> 01:15:51,400
later.
Justin Hamilton, great guy.

1409
01:15:51,500 --> 01:15:54,500
Always really nice to me.
Those slander for Justin

1410
01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:57,200
Hamilton allowed here.
With that being said, this is

1411
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,400
what happens.
When you have a defensively

1412
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:02,600
minded head coach, who's going
to a major P5 defensive

1413
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:04,900
coordinator somewhere else and
knows what it's supposed to look

1414
01:16:04,900 --> 01:16:08,000
like.
Justin Hamilton did an article

1415
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:12,300
with Mike Barber with Richmond
Times-Dispatch and great

1416
01:16:12,300 --> 01:16:13,500
article.
Go check it out.

1417
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,800
One of the things he said was
that when he came into Virginia

1418
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,700
Tech, he started descending into
his role.

1419
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,300
The one thing he knew was that
he didn't know how other p5's

1420
01:16:20,300 --> 01:16:22,300
were being run.
He said that in that article

1421
01:16:22,300 --> 01:16:24,500
with Mike Barber in that are
view, right?

1422
01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:27,600
So this is what we're seeing on
the field now in the spring.

1423
01:16:27,900 --> 01:16:29,700
We're seeing guys being utilized
the positions.

1424
01:16:29,700 --> 01:16:32,000
They were not necessarily being
utilized in a year ago.

1425
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,200
You're seeing guys more
comfortable in their role and

1426
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,700
it's only the spring.
That's the biggest takeaway for

1427
01:16:37,700 --> 01:16:40,300
me.
Like they're moving guys around

1428
01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:42,200
position changes.
You got guys moving on the

1429
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:45,200
interior defense and line you
have Gunner Givens, playing

1430
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:47,700
defensive tackle, you got all
these linebackers.

1431
01:16:47,700 --> 01:16:50,500
Now we got two or three deep at
positions that we were a little

1432
01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:54,200
bit concerned about maybe before
and like you mentioned Brian,

1433
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,900
Virginia Tech's a position.
Now we're not feeling quite as

1434
01:16:56,900 --> 01:16:59,800
bad if That's all I feel comes
off the field, right?

1435
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:02,700
Or announce his do comes off the
field, like all of a sudden were

1436
01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:05,400
like, you know, I think we're
okay with the guys we have in

1437
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,500
there right now.
We didn't feel that way last

1438
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:10,400
year, all right?
And you're in a spot now where I

1439
01:17:10,407 --> 01:17:13,500
think guys and their talents and
their skill sets are going to be

1440
01:17:13,500 --> 01:17:17,100
better utilized and that's just
the beauty of having a guy who's

1441
01:17:17,100 --> 01:17:21,400
kind of been there and done that
and major P5 program because

1442
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,100
Chris Martin to come in, right?
And he's the defensive

1443
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:27,000
coordinator, this is Brent prize
defense reversed years.

1444
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:30,100
Like we all have Kind of what
that is and that's why I really

1445
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:33,500
like the first modifier because
you bring him in half and

1446
01:17:33,500 --> 01:17:35,800
recruit have them, get
comfortable.

1447
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,300
He's played for Pride, just
coached under /.

1448
01:17:38,300 --> 01:17:42,400
I he knows the scheme and now we
get to be groomed with pride as

1449
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,500
a head coach.
Like this is a perfect scenario

1450
01:17:44,500 --> 01:17:46,700
for all involved.
I think the defensive players

1451
01:17:46,700 --> 01:17:48,700
and kind of their new positions
I think they're really going to

1452
01:17:48,700 --> 01:17:52,400
benefit from that.
What about to be?

1453
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:56,400
Like you said, they get to bring
bring Marvel long and in the

1454
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,700
meantime, you know, by all
accounts, one of the better

1455
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,500
position coaches in terms of
just technique.

1456
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:08,400
Yeah, and coaching the position.
So I also think we're gonna go

1457
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,200
ahead what you mentioned about
P5.

1458
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:15,100
I mean Marvis.
See now, Vanderbilt getting

1459
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:18,600
sippy State.
Any senior, if that's you And

1460
01:18:18,700 --> 01:18:21,600
he's about 6 or 7 years younger
than Justin Hamilton.

1461
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:24,400
So when you say ham mentioned,
I've never seen a P5 program.

1462
01:18:24,700 --> 01:18:28,000
This is a guy that seen multiple
and he's only been a coach about

1463
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,600
six years.
So, yeah.

1464
01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:35,200
That room, I think if you asked
me, I think I feel best the

1465
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:36,600
room.
I would say, I have no worries

1466
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,500
about anywhere.
Yeah, and I'll tell you another

1467
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:42,200
room.
I feel pretty good about, even

1468
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:46,200
with the guy transitioning is
the safety room, you know,

1469
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:51,000
Temari there are some girl in
pain Saturday right I don't

1470
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:56,000
think any of us would disagree
with that but just looking I

1471
01:18:56,000 --> 01:19:00,400
feel like he looked more natural
That's my opinion.

1472
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,500
I feel like he looked more
natural, playing back at the

1473
01:19:03,500 --> 01:19:05,800
free, safety field, safety,
whatever you want to call it

1474
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:12,300
spot, then he ever did it.
You're not on an island as much.

1475
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:19,200
Yeah, it's as simple as that,
which amerikaner I mean Jamari.

1476
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:22,300
Connors got a lot of Dietrich
Bonner in them where it's like

1477
01:19:22,700 --> 01:19:26,700
man, I love when he comes down
hill and he's in the bodies

1478
01:19:26,700 --> 01:19:30,500
playing in the box.
And, you know, I love the way he

1479
01:19:30,500 --> 01:19:33,400
attacks running backs and
receivers like in the open field

1480
01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:35,600
after the catch.
I don't love him and coverage,

1481
01:19:36,100 --> 01:19:39,500
great, and you feel now.
You feel a little bit better.

1482
01:19:39,700 --> 01:19:42,400
About him in coverage when he's
playing free safety versus the

1483
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,200
nickel, where he's on island all
the time.

1484
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,200
We're all worried about his
patent.

1485
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:50,200
You know, is its ability and
coverage, which was You know,

1486
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,000
the real concern I think going
into last year and he ended up

1487
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,500
actually playing, I think a lot
better than a lot of us thought

1488
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,600
a year ago.
But you know like we talked

1489
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,700
about before the concern which
Maria Connor has always been how

1490
01:20:02,700 --> 01:20:04,500
good is this guy going to be in
pass coverage?

1491
01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:08,900
And I think he's in a position
now where, you know, yes he's

1492
01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:11,200
still going to have to continue
to improve in that category.

1493
01:20:11,300 --> 01:20:12,700
It doesn't have to be perfect
anymore.

1494
01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:17,200
Yeah, I think, I mean, he still
has struggled here and there

1495
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,400
with this tackles, and that's
probably going to be something

1496
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:23,200
that he struggles with, probably
the rest of his career and maybe

1497
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:27,800
at this point, if, if that
hasn't been cleaned up, you

1498
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:32,400
know, I don't know if it will,
but I think that from the safety

1499
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,100
position, it's it fits his
skillset better and he's not

1500
01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:43,300
going to have those as many of
those times where he has to be

1501
01:20:43,300 --> 01:20:47,400
wide open to them.
Open field against a die Ami

1502
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,400
brown, or someone like that
where, you know, he's trying to

1503
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:56,300
try to make that type of play,
like I said, but I'm hoping that

1504
01:20:56,300 --> 01:20:58,700
some of those, those tackling
issues get cleaned up.

1505
01:20:58,700 --> 01:21:00,800
We'll see if there comes to
fruition.

1506
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,500
But Curtis what you gonna say
you look like you got something

1507
01:21:03,500 --> 01:21:07,500
you want to say on this one.
I'm just laughing, hear about

1508
01:21:07,500 --> 01:21:09,100
the Dietrich Bonner thing.
Let me know.

1509
01:21:29,700 --> 01:21:31,700
Paul Kerr.
People's Bryan, Hawker peoples.

1510
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:34,900
I'm going to stick with
people's.

1511
01:21:34,900 --> 01:21:38,200
I'm gonna go with the consider.
I'm gonna go with consistency

1512
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,000
that's now I mean that's my
answer to you.

1513
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,600
It's people's man.
It look people's has been on the

1514
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:47,300
field more for a reason, right?
And it's been the consistency

1515
01:21:47,300 --> 01:21:51,800
that he brings whether he's, you
know, a spot starter or into 2D

1516
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,300
which is he's bad to do player
pretty much solo career.

1517
01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:58,200
It's a consistency and I think
with Hawkins, I think you're

1518
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,000
going to get more of like the
Boomer bus like oh my God, like

1519
01:22:02,500 --> 01:22:04,700
that was great.
Not your peoples makes that play

1520
01:22:04,700 --> 01:22:06,000
great.
But at the same time your be

1521
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,000
like, oh my God, I know for a
fact people's makes that play.

1522
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,700
How did you know?
So I think the answer is

1523
01:22:12,700 --> 01:22:14,200
people's.
I think prize going to go with

1524
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:17,100
like The Proven guy and you're
one I just that's my feeling I

1525
01:22:17,108 --> 01:22:22,800
have on you or is it one of
these where people's is the

1526
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,200
starter?
But there's going to be times

1527
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:25,900
Hawk.
Just give some a breather where

1528
01:22:25,900 --> 01:22:29,600
maybe Hawks getting 15 a game.
Out there.

1529
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,700
Yeah, I mean, I think there's
it's going to still be a.

1530
01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:38,900
I'm not saying there to you, go
50/50 on Iran reps here.

1531
01:22:38,900 --> 01:22:44,400
But I think in terms of staff's,
I think we'll probably see, you

1532
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:47,800
know, Hawk still probably pull
about 30% of the steps in the

1533
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,400
game.
Okay, yeah, I think they're both

1534
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:51,600
going to play.
I agree.

1535
01:22:53,300 --> 01:22:56,700
I mean I think push comes to
shove like if you need one guy

1536
01:22:56,700 --> 01:22:59,800
on the field, I think is going
to be people's but you know, I

1537
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:01,300
think they're broken.
Get some snaps.

1538
01:23:01,300 --> 01:23:03,500
I mean I think it'll be a camp
battle for sure.

1539
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,300
My pick would be peoples and
then I think Hawkins will get

1540
01:23:07,300 --> 01:23:11,200
some snaps for sure.
I think I'll play again.

1541
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,600
I think we probably feel pretty
good about the safety or 90

1542
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,400
Jalen strowman, you know, won
the special team award.

1543
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,200
So he's obviously making strides
and becoming part of the too

1544
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:26,300
deep there.
But I think I look next year, I

1545
01:23:26,300 --> 01:23:28,900
think it this is just this is
projecting a year from now.

1546
01:23:28,900 --> 01:23:31,300
We're talking.
I think it people shows enough

1547
01:23:31,300 --> 01:23:32,900
consistency.
I think they're going to

1548
01:23:32,907 --> 01:23:35,400
probably just simply move people
back.

1549
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,500
If you can, if he continues to
build and shows consistency that

1550
01:23:38,500 --> 01:23:41,000
he can do it, they are they
trust him to what they do it

1551
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,600
boundary they're just going to
say we're going to send you

1552
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,200
back.
We know Hawk can play here.

1553
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:51,000
We know we have to clean it up
but playing boundary Little you

1554
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:54,200
make a mistake, it boundary,
it's not a big, a deal because

1555
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:58,100
there are more guys around you,
I think that's what they're

1556
01:23:58,100 --> 01:24:00,200
aiming towards.
All right, let's flip the

1557
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:04,000
corners.
We hadn't heard Armani Chapman's

1558
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:09,600
name, a lot until last week but
I think Saturday him and Dorian

1559
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:15,400
strong, put their stamps that
they are the top two corners at

1560
01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:20,000
Virginia Tech this fall.
Yeah.

1561
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,100
I mean no question.
I think Dorian strong needs to

1562
01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:25,000
come out that sophomore.
Slump though, righto boys.

1563
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,200
But I mean those are the guys.
Those are those guys.

1564
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:33,200
I mean I think that was kind of
etched in stone when we realized

1565
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:36,100
while I wasn't coming back.
You know, I think that was it

1566
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:38,700
was pretty much said that it was
going to be Chapman and strong.

1567
01:24:38,700 --> 01:24:43,500
It was a natural fit.
I mean Dorian strong made so

1568
01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:47,000
many great plays as a freshman
and then you saw him take some

1569
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,300
more chances last year and I
think that that bit him a little

1570
01:24:50,300 --> 01:24:54,500
bit, really good player.
You feel comfortable with

1571
01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:57,100
Chapman.
He's been around forever, right?

1572
01:24:58,300 --> 01:25:02,500
I mean you want to talk about,
you know, consistency of peoples

1573
01:25:02,500 --> 01:25:04,500
and being like yeah, he's been
on the field more, he's got more

1574
01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:06,600
experience.
I mean you're not going to find

1575
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,300
it at shorter-term re-contour
Dax hollifield like you're not

1576
01:25:09,300 --> 01:25:12,000
going to find many guys with the
an anti gar but I guess.

1577
01:25:12,100 --> 01:25:14,000
Guess you're not going to find
many guys with the experience

1578
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,500
Chapman.
Like he's just he's been around

1579
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:19,000
forever.
So this is kind of his moment to

1580
01:25:19,008 --> 01:25:22,400
step into a more permanent role,
be less of a rotational piece of

1581
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:27,700
corner and get in and kind of
kind of prove that he can be

1582
01:25:27,700 --> 01:25:30,300
that guy, right?
He can be a number one or number

1583
01:25:30,300 --> 01:25:34,200
two however 11a to whatever like
he can be one of the top corners

1584
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,600
on the roster and we've seen him
as a guy with potential for

1585
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:40,500
years.
And when he's played, he's been

1586
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:44,000
pretty decent and And now he's
got a really big role.

1587
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,400
So that let's see what, let's
see, what that looks like, more

1588
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,200
snaps.
Yeah, I mean it's going to be

1589
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,700
interesting to see if he steps
in its kind of that that Alpha

1590
01:25:50,700 --> 01:25:54,800
Dog in the corner back room.
Because yeah, I feel like

1591
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:56,700
there's kind of a void there
with Waller gone.

1592
01:25:56,700 --> 01:26:00,300
I mean, our money's definitely
the the Elder Statesman in terms

1593
01:26:00,300 --> 01:26:04,700
of, you know, being on the
roster for this long and you

1594
01:26:04,700 --> 01:26:08,500
know, just on top of the number
of reps he's had and snaps.

1595
01:26:08,500 --> 01:26:14,300
He's played in games so yeah.
I was a little disappointed in

1596
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,300
re on Marie's performance in the
spring game.

1597
01:26:16,300 --> 01:26:20,100
I think nobody is very, very up
and down, made a couple good

1598
01:26:20,100 --> 01:26:24,800
plays on balls but he, you know,
he got beat both on both of the

1599
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:29,400
deep balls to Smith one.
I think was looked like was man

1600
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:34,300
the first one and then the
second was a cover six and he

1601
01:26:34,300 --> 01:26:37,300
had the Hatfield and just gave
up too much depth to early and

1602
01:26:37,500 --> 01:26:41,500
Caleb meet him over the top and
I will props to to Smith and two

1603
01:26:41,500 --> 01:26:44,000
Wells on.
At the, because it was a skinny

1604
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,200
post Smith, kind of been it back
made.

1605
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,900
Sure he stayed to the right of
the right, hash Wells, put it

1606
01:26:48,900 --> 01:26:50,800
right where it needed to be.
So Connor can come over.

1607
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:55,300
So that was a good play overall,
but Marie, definitely the most

1608
01:26:55,300 --> 01:26:58,400
inconsistent of the kind of the
big three that we're expecting

1609
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,800
for that rotation.
It's a bummer with married to

1610
01:27:01,900 --> 01:27:04,100
you want to talk about guys who
have stepped anything about the

1611
01:27:04,100 --> 01:27:06,300
bowl game a few years ago and
how well he played.

1612
01:27:06,300 --> 01:27:09,800
And like it felt like every time
he stepped in when, you know,

1613
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,300
somebody was hurt or you know
somebody Was out a few snaps or

1614
01:27:13,300 --> 01:27:15,500
whatever it felt like every time
Marie Stephanie was making a

1615
01:27:15,508 --> 01:27:19,400
play.
And yeah, last year, didn't play

1616
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:23,500
a ton and 020 was all screwed up
because a because of covid, you

1617
01:27:23,500 --> 01:27:26,900
know, but man and Mer, he's
another guy who's been around

1618
01:27:26,900 --> 01:27:29,800
forever and I expected a better
prefer.

1619
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,700
It's one day.
It's I don't want to take too

1620
01:27:32,700 --> 01:27:35,700
much out of a scrimmage that I
think away was exactly the same

1621
01:27:35,700 --> 01:27:39,000
bride like, Marie's been around
forever.

1622
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:42,400
Now like you got it, you got to
make start making.

1623
01:27:42,500 --> 01:27:45,600
Start making some plays or at
least you know like you like you

1624
01:27:45,608 --> 01:27:49,100
mentioned that cover six play,
they got burned by Caleb Smith

1625
01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:51,000
like a veteran.
Should not be making that type

1626
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:54,600
of mistake against Caleb Smith
who's who's fast, but not a

1627
01:27:54,608 --> 01:27:57,500
burner, right?
But you can't be making those

1628
01:27:57,500 --> 01:27:59,100
types of mistakes even in the
scrimmage.

1629
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:01,800
So, it's killer.
It's consistency.

1630
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:05,300
It's being here three years and
still making the same mistakes

1631
01:28:05,300 --> 01:28:06,900
you did.
When you step foot on campus,

1632
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:11,600
where Armani Chapman.
Give that guy credit, bron bron

1633
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:13,300
praised of how consistent he
was.

1634
01:28:13,300 --> 01:28:18,800
He like consistent every single
play on Saturday rattling and

1635
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,700
that's what you looking for in
the quarterback position.

1636
01:28:20,700 --> 01:28:23,700
If you're consistent you're
going to get beat, you're going

1637
01:28:23,700 --> 01:28:28,900
to have guys catch balls, but if
you're consistent you know six

1638
01:28:28,900 --> 01:28:31,200
out of ten times, they're not
going to be thinking about

1639
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,100
coming to you because they're
know you're he's in good

1640
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:35,200
technique.
He's on the right side of the

1641
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:41,000
shoulder it's going to be tough
to get the pass and There we hit

1642
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:43,000
DJ Harvey.
He got praised about how he's

1643
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,700
looked at the nickel.
You know, we've been mentioning,

1644
01:28:46,700 --> 01:28:51,200
is he big enough to go play the
outsides and maybe that's why

1645
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,600
they're just talking about him,
being at nickel.

1646
01:28:55,100 --> 01:28:59,400
I think between this our safety,
I think this is a room in Prime

1647
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,400
mention that this is a room.
We go after.

1648
01:29:03,100 --> 01:29:07,400
I think having Briana being
older is definitely a good.

1649
01:29:07,500 --> 01:29:11,000
Sell to someone with two to
three years of Eligibility left

1650
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,000
but he's saying our three is
gone.

1651
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,400
If you come here, you have that
potential.

1652
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,900
Heck if you might have that
potential this year, if you can

1653
01:29:20,900 --> 01:29:25,600
go beat him out.
Yeah like rr3 is gone and then

1654
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,600
like even you know projecting
for like you mentioned a guys

1655
01:29:28,700 --> 01:29:31,500
guys with a couple years
eligibility left like Chapman's

1656
01:29:31,500 --> 01:29:33,100
not going to be here too much
longer, right?

1657
01:29:33,100 --> 01:29:35,700
So you don't start looking kind
of across the room.

1658
01:29:36,300 --> 01:29:39,500
You know, Dorian strong has a
has a really good year and you

1659
01:29:39,508 --> 01:29:40,900
just say yeah, two out of three
years.

1660
01:29:40,900 --> 01:29:42,800
I was really good had like 11
year.

1661
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,900
I took a step back, I mean,
you're basically like running

1662
01:29:45,900 --> 01:29:49,600
opposite of Caleb Farley, right?
We're Farley had a really get a

1663
01:29:49,608 --> 01:29:51,300
one really good game when he was
a freshman.

1664
01:29:51,300 --> 01:29:52,000
That's like that.
It wasn't.

1665
01:29:52,100 --> 01:29:54,800
Very good.
And then, you know, is a really

1666
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,400
good sophomore year and he's
like, I'm sitting out the covid

1667
01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:58,600
year and then he just dropped
really.

1668
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:04,700
I, you know, strong is a kid
with a good, you know, good size

1669
01:30:04,700 --> 01:30:08,700
and he can really run and we've
seen his ability and coverage if

1670
01:30:08,700 --> 01:30:12,000
you put together a good year,
does he make a job?

1671
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:16,300
You know, the answer is probably
not but I mean I think you could

1672
01:30:16,300 --> 01:30:18,700
sell it certainly if you're if
you're out there, recruiting the

1673
01:30:18,700 --> 01:30:23,000
portal.
Yeah, no doubt I think you know,

1674
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,600
as you said I think there's
definitely some potential to get

1675
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:29,200
one at least one.
Maybe two in the, in the

1676
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:31,300
secondary altogether.
I don't know if you want to get

1677
01:30:31,300 --> 01:30:36,100
a fifth safety that you, you
know, feel like can be counted

1678
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:41,000
on for significant snaps, you
know, behind the 4p mention.

1679
01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:44,600
But I think Corners definitely
the more likely spot because you

1680
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,100
really do need a fourth that you
can trust playing outside.

1681
01:30:48,500 --> 01:30:50,200
And again, you talk about the
cell.

1682
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:52,900
It's Yourself because, you know,
Marie's probably not going to be

1683
01:30:52,900 --> 01:30:55,900
here after this year potentially
Chavis, not going to be after

1684
01:30:55,900 --> 01:30:57,800
this year.
And then even the potential with

1685
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:01,400
strong, depending on, you know,
what output he puts this year.

1686
01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:06,500
So, it's going to be interesting
to see who we Target, and, and

1687
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:09,100
how many we end up grabbing?
Absolutely.

1688
01:31:09,700 --> 01:31:12,500
All right guys, let's hit the
last position group and probably

1689
01:31:12,700 --> 01:31:15,400
the number two position group.
We're all worried about, that's

1690
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:20,200
defensive line.
The guys we know did they did

1691
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:26,500
fine but I tell you after that,
after like McCray Pollard,

1692
01:31:26,700 --> 01:31:30,900
garbett fuga.
I mean it was ugly.

1693
01:31:34,500 --> 01:31:39,900
I'm patiently waiting for more
cool, more coal, Nelson and

1694
01:31:39,900 --> 01:31:42,400
patiently waiting for more
stretch Carol, right?

1695
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:48,000
I'm pulling these coals, right,
right?

1696
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,500
But this fall though, like
projecting forward to the fall,

1697
01:31:52,300 --> 01:31:55,700
like that's what I'm, that's
what I'm patiently waiting for,

1698
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,900
right?
It's like those guys to emerge

1699
01:31:58,900 --> 01:32:02,300
and I know Cole was hurt.
Staffs been talking, really

1700
01:32:02,500 --> 01:32:04,600
highly of I'm right.
Talk about, you know what kind

1701
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,800
of player you can be and want a
staff was high on him to?

1702
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:09,800
I thought that was a really big
get when they recruited him.

1703
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:11,500
I thought he was under, you
know, I thought he was a bit

1704
01:32:11,500 --> 01:32:13,900
under recruited.
I thought he was a bit

1705
01:32:13,900 --> 01:32:16,600
underrated on the recruiting
Trail.

1706
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:18,100
Really good size, really
athletic.

1707
01:32:18,100 --> 01:32:20,300
Player has potential to be
really good, I think.

1708
01:32:21,700 --> 01:32:25,200
But yeah text going to need some
production at defensive end in

1709
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:29,200
particular, right?
You talk about you talk about

1710
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,700
offensive tackle, right in the
outside, the offense of line.

1711
01:32:31,700 --> 01:32:33,200
Like I think Virginia Tech's
Yes.

1712
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,000
And the questions are a defense
event.

1713
01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:40,200
Yeah, who's going to be that
other starter opposite garbage?

1714
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:44,200
That's going to make some noise
who's going to be somebody in

1715
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:48,100
the 2D that you can really rely
on to go out there and give you,

1716
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:53,200
you know, three or four quality
series and really beyond that, I

1717
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:59,200
mean you want to have a solid 3D
at the defensive line, you know,

1718
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:02,500
who were those, you know, five
and six guys going to be across

1719
01:33:02,500 --> 01:33:05,900
that that defensive line that
can come in and defensive end in

1720
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,200
Still get pressure on the
quarterback and slow down the

1721
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:12,800
Run.
For those who are wondering,

1722
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,900
where the hell might just went
Mike's.

1723
01:33:14,900 --> 01:33:17,000
Dog is fell asleep in his
kitchen.

1724
01:33:17,100 --> 01:33:22,100
Hey, can I try to get him to
storing only snoring?

1725
01:33:22,700 --> 01:33:27,100
It's, we can go like walk out a
shot.

1726
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,700
He's been, he's been a little
under the weather.

1727
01:33:34,700 --> 01:33:38,000
The last few days had a
infection on his leg and

1728
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,100
walking's, been an issue in
several.

1729
01:33:40,100 --> 01:33:42,000
He's He's a four-year-old golden
retriever.

1730
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:43,400
He's fine.
Yeah, just got to give me some

1731
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:46,200
medicine.
Will pop right back up, but now

1732
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:48,000
I the medicine makes him sleep
real heavy.

1733
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:57,500
So there we go, great with this
group as well.

1734
01:33:57,500 --> 01:34:00,400
Is I don't even think
possibility, I think it's a

1735
01:34:00,407 --> 01:34:04,600
guarantee in to me, I don't
think it matters where we go

1736
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,800
whether it's inside or outside,
or both.

1737
01:34:07,500 --> 01:34:10,500
And we we got to get stronger
there.

1738
01:34:10,900 --> 01:34:12,400
Think what?
This goes back to and this is

1739
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:16,000
where I will completely bus.
The old staff, we've talked

1740
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:20,300
about it complete roster
mismanagement over the last two

1741
01:34:20,300 --> 01:34:23,000
years, complete roster
mismanagement.

1742
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:26,900
It's why we're had nine running
backs but not enough you know

1743
01:34:27,300 --> 01:34:31,800
not enough linemen or we had two
tackles and nine guards.

1744
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:33,700
No Brian, how many times would
you be?

1745
01:34:33,700 --> 01:34:37,700
Like but it's another guard like
we wipe out.

1746
01:34:37,700 --> 01:34:39,900
You stop getting guys that were
high school.

1747
01:34:39,900 --> 01:34:43,200
Tackles that That are, you know,
you're going to move them to

1748
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,600
guard.
Like, what the hell are you

1749
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,200
doing, right?
I mean, you see him at one

1750
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,000
position at the high school
level and you're clearly

1751
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,700
recruiting him to another one to
college level like stop

1752
01:34:51,700 --> 01:34:53,700
recruiting the same guy over and
over.

1753
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,500
It's always solved.
It's true.

1754
01:34:56,500 --> 01:34:59,800
Well guys, that kind of wraps up
the spring game, what we're

1755
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:05,100
seeing obviously between now and
really about four months from

1756
01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:07,100
now about actually about three
months from now.

1757
01:35:07,100 --> 01:35:10,700
You know, we expect to see
movement in all that.

1758
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:14,600
Because, you know, there are
pieces missing on this team.

1759
01:35:14,900 --> 01:35:18,800
But I also think with this
coaching staff, a lot of these

1760
01:35:18,800 --> 01:35:23,000
guys, potentially they recruited
two and three years ago might be

1761
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:27,000
looking for a new home in.
Luckily, that is where Brent pry

1762
01:35:27,000 --> 01:35:29,400
has relationships.
That is where like, Derrick

1763
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:32,700
Jones has relationships, where
it could be a kid, they

1764
01:35:32,700 --> 01:35:37,200
recruited in 2018.
Still have the good relationship

1765
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,700
with let's make a call.
Let's see if we can get this kid

1766
01:35:39,700 --> 01:35:41,900
to come.
All right, I'm going to flip

1767
01:35:41,900 --> 01:35:44,200
over.
Let's talk about the draft real

1768
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:47,300
quick.
Obviously the Hokies have

1769
01:35:47,500 --> 01:35:50,600
essentially 80.
Maybe 90 a Parker only if you

1770
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,600
count the kicker will see the
Smith.

1771
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:56,400
Amari bar know, James Mitchell,
Loop, tenuta Jermaine Waller I

1772
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,400
guess last week, Jordan Williams
Trey Turner and Blackshear.

1773
01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:05,200
Let me get y'all's opinions, who
is the first poke?

1774
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:13,300
Taken in the 2022, NFL draft.
This would have been a layup.

1775
01:36:13,300 --> 01:36:15,200
If James Mitchell didn't blow
out is me.

1776
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:25,200
Oh yeah, the way up.
I'm gonna I'm gonna go with

1777
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:27,500
Waller.
Okay.

1778
01:36:27,500 --> 01:36:31,400
Okay.
So if barno had a really good

1779
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:33,500
year it would have been like I
bar now.

1780
01:36:33,500 --> 01:36:34,900
Physical freak.
Right.

1781
01:36:34,900 --> 01:36:38,400
Like can do a little bit
everything and look that the pro

1782
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:40,200
Scouts can still look at them
that way, right?

1783
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:45,700
Because physical specimen really
athletic but we've seen what

1784
01:36:45,700 --> 01:36:50,500
Waller can be when he's healthy.
Like we know he's capable of

1785
01:36:50,500 --> 01:36:52,600
being one of the best corners
and yeah.

1786
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,900
DC, which is like, no slouch of
a football ground rules, right?

1787
01:36:56,900 --> 01:36:59,800
And yeah, really good receivers.
End up playing in the NFL out

1788
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,600
the ACC and wall or strap at him
up, you know, when he's at his

1789
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:07,500
best.
So my pick is Waller, although

1790
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:11,300
if James Mitchell didn't blow
the me out, I think we all know

1791
01:37:11,300 --> 01:37:14,200
where this was heading right.
I mean oh yeah looking for a

1792
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:16,500
pass rusher right.
You'll have her pass rusher or

1793
01:37:16,500 --> 01:37:20,400
you're looking for a dynamic
playmaker on the outside and

1794
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:22,600
Mitchell can be that and
borrowed.

1795
01:37:22,700 --> 01:37:26,500
Be the pass rusher but Waller is
a lockdown Corner that, you

1796
01:37:26,500 --> 01:37:29,200
know, I think at his best, you
know, you can, you can still get

1797
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,600
them like round three round
four, potentially, because he's

1798
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,400
had this kind of up and down
injury history but his upsides

1799
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,100
really, really good.
So I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go

1800
01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:41,200
with walk.
All right, Curtis gotta hedge.

1801
01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:47,500
No no.
Okay, so with that being said,

1802
01:37:47,500 --> 01:37:51,000
if I can't hedge, I'm gonna go,
let's see this Smith.

1803
01:37:52,200 --> 01:38:00,100
I think he's probably the Most
consistent less volatile

1804
01:38:00,100 --> 01:38:03,100
selection here because there,
he's pretty much going to go

1805
01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:06,400
where he's going to go.
He there's not that like okay

1806
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,500
well he could go as early as
early day two.

1807
01:38:09,500 --> 01:38:14,800
When he could also go as late as
in 27 middle to late of day

1808
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:17,400
three.
He doesn't have that big window.

1809
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:20,800
I feel like he's kind of pretty
much locked in to a much smaller

1810
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:22,500
window so that's why I'll go
with him.

1811
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,900
But I'll say that to say this
number one, I think.

1812
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:31,300
I know has the potential to go
the highest just on his physical

1813
01:38:31,300 --> 01:38:32,600
ability.
All right.

1814
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:36,000
I'm this horrible person.
By the way bra Kaufman, my bad.

1815
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,900
Yeah, brought so but continued
just, yeah.

1816
01:38:40,900 --> 01:38:42,800
So I think Barney has the
potential to go.

1817
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,200
The highest just based on his
physical traits.

1818
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:51,500
We've seen NFL teams in the
past, take a flyer on a physical

1819
01:38:51,500 --> 01:38:54,800
freak.
Think of Bruce Irvin with

1820
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:56,700
Seattle, when that thing
happened.

1821
01:38:57,100 --> 01:39:01,800
Fire but nobody was killing them
for it to remember everybody.

1822
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:04,700
Yeah, going in for it and he
ended up being a pretty pretty

1823
01:39:04,700 --> 01:39:06,900
damn good player for him.
Thanks.

1824
01:39:08,100 --> 01:39:10,500
Yeah.
And so yeah, I think there's

1825
01:39:10,500 --> 01:39:13,900
some potential there, not
necessarily as high as Bruce

1826
01:39:13,900 --> 01:39:17,000
went but I think you can see,
you know, potentially early day,

1827
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,300
24 bar, no.
But you could see as late as you

1828
01:39:20,300 --> 01:39:22,200
know, late day to early day
three.

1829
01:39:22,600 --> 01:39:26,000
There's a pretty big window I
think 44 where he goes.

1830
01:39:27,700 --> 01:39:31,100
And then you said, Waller and
while I agree with you at his

1831
01:39:31,100 --> 01:39:34,700
best, I don't know if at this
point, if they're if he's going

1832
01:39:34,700 --> 01:39:37,900
to get some of the Caleb
Fairley, stigma of the injured

1833
01:39:37,900 --> 01:39:40,700
Virginia Tech quarterback.
Yeah, I'm going into a draft.

1834
01:39:40,700 --> 01:39:44,000
I think that's fair.
All right, that's fair.

1835
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,200
I like you're sticking with your
guys but it's going to be Barna

1836
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:53,300
in the reason is oh yeah, he's
gonna be the first.

1837
01:39:53,300 --> 01:39:58,500
For the reason is You can't
teach the speed and bring him to

1838
01:39:58,500 --> 01:40:01,600
the NFL, they're going to
somebody's just going to like a

1839
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:02,400
wide.
Not me.

1840
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:04,700
And Brian talked about our
team's run a wide and I'm very

1841
01:40:04,700 --> 01:40:06,600
similar.
I forgot who's your teammate,

1842
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:10,900
Pats fan.
Your pets fan, okay, here's what

1843
01:40:10,900 --> 01:40:27,100
you love.
All around defensive end.

1844
01:40:27,700 --> 01:40:30,600
But you know what, we can do
this first year, get out on the

1845
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:34,000
nine, put your helmet directly
at the quarterback and run as

1846
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:39,400
fast as you can to him.
And you know with the guy like

1847
01:40:39,400 --> 01:40:43,400
him having that speed, I don't
think a team of care.

1848
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:45,400
They'll just say he's our path
from Specialists.

1849
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,800
We also see him put him on
special teams.

1850
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:51,600
You can go track somebody down.
I will say this.

1851
01:40:52,500 --> 01:40:56,600
I think James Mitchell you
talked about him in the lock, I

1852
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,800
think Mitchell is going to go
higher because I think he tore

1853
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:04,900
his ACL at the perfect time.
He tore his ACL at the perfect

1854
01:41:04,900 --> 01:41:08,500
time where he's going to be
getting right back into being

1855
01:41:08,500 --> 01:41:11,200
able to participate in some of
those camps.

1856
01:41:11,700 --> 01:41:14,100
There's going to be someone
around round for that's going to

1857
01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:19,700
say this guy's a skillful guy.
He's probably really a top 50

1858
01:41:19,700 --> 01:41:21,400
player.
We're going to get him about

1859
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,900
150.
Or 120.

1860
01:41:24,900 --> 01:41:27,900
We're going to take the risk
because when we get to the mini

1861
01:41:27,900 --> 01:41:31,200
camps in June, he's probably
going to be just about ready to

1862
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:34,400
go.
Yeah, I think they Virginia Tech

1863
01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:37,700
did poorly for him, is that we
didn't necessarily give Mitchell

1864
01:41:37,700 --> 01:41:41,800
as much opportunity to show his
skill.

1865
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:45,100
Set doing the same thing at the
same time, you know, he did,

1866
01:41:45,100 --> 01:41:48,100
show it in some areas.
So and I think the NFL scout

1867
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:51,400
see, see the abilities so that
the question is they going to

1868
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:53,500
say?
Well, I don't care what the tape

1869
01:41:53,500 --> 01:41:55,900
says that they didn't get him
involved in the offense as much

1870
01:41:55,900 --> 01:41:58,200
as they should have.
We're taking a flyer.

1871
01:41:58,300 --> 01:41:59,900
This is just what we do in tight
end.

1872
01:42:04,100 --> 01:42:08,100
On guys out there, I think I
think six have a legitimate shot

1873
01:42:08,100 --> 01:42:10,700
to get drafted.
And I think all wind up on the

1874
01:42:10,700 --> 01:42:14,300
roster somewhere.
I think six because some of them

1875
01:42:14,300 --> 01:42:17,400
have position versatility and
things like that.

1876
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:21,000
I think six on, we're going to
get drafted later rounds.

1877
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:25,600
Obviously, you know, best of
luck to all of them, even though

1878
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,600
I'm sure we could probably sit
here and two weeks and have a,

1879
01:42:28,700 --> 01:42:32,400
an episode entitled, you should
have stayed in school.

1880
01:42:34,300 --> 01:42:35,700
I mean, I'll tell you what man,
trade.

1881
01:42:35,700 --> 01:42:38,200
Turn around a 443 or whatever
the hell he ran.

1882
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:41,800
The combine is going to help.
Yeah.

1883
01:42:41,900 --> 01:42:47,100
Yeah, I have, I have questions
about what Trey Turner was as a

1884
01:42:47,100 --> 01:42:50,800
freshman versus what he could
have turned into and didn't, but

1885
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:53,200
I don't know if that says more
about Trey Turner more about the

1886
01:42:53,200 --> 01:42:58,100
Departed coaching staff.
So just felt like he was the

1887
01:42:58,100 --> 01:43:01,100
same receiver, his entire career
and I feel like what we saw when

1888
01:43:01,100 --> 01:43:02,900
he was a freshman, we all
thought he was going to be

1889
01:43:03,100 --> 01:43:06,600
Isaiah Ford can't Phillips at
receiver as we all called him,

1890
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:10,200
big play tray, but he never
really turned into that guy.

1891
01:43:10,300 --> 01:43:14,900
And, you know, him running a
really fast, 40 at the combine.

1892
01:43:14,900 --> 01:43:18,600
The fact that he catches
everything, you know, he's not

1893
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:20,300
going to drop a lot of balls,
right?

1894
01:43:20,300 --> 01:43:24,500
And you know, I think he's got
an opportunity to get drafted,

1895
01:43:24,500 --> 01:43:28,800
whereas like, Going into the
combine I'm like, I don't know

1896
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,400
if Trey Turner is going to be a
guy.

1897
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,300
Who's going to realistically, be
drafted.

1898
01:43:34,300 --> 01:43:36,800
I felt like six or seventh
round.

1899
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,600
Maybe now, I would be surprised
speeding.

1900
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,300
Go just given kind of how he's
how he's tested.

1901
01:43:43,900 --> 01:43:46,100
Yeah, I agree.
I think he's kind of in that, in

1902
01:43:46,100 --> 01:43:49,400
that Fringe area.
Now especially with his with his

1903
01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:53,400
combine and I think he did
pretty good as per day as well.

1904
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:54,800
So yeah.
Yeah.

1905
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:59,500
I think he was at to produce the
same day.

1906
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:01,200
Yeah, yeah.
To the same day.

1907
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:12,400
So yeah.
What do you know, since we

1908
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:17,400
started And 45 minutes ago.
I'm not seeing anything man.

1909
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:19,900
I think I think we're good to go
get to call it.

1910
01:44:20,100 --> 01:44:21,400
All right.
Well we are going to wrap up

1911
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:24,100
this episode of The Boundary
Corner podcast with our guest.

1912
01:44:24,100 --> 01:44:26,100
Mike McDaniel, I'm Curtis
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1913
01:44:26,200 --> 01:44:28,900
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