Spring Forward
Boundary Corner Podcast
Spring Forward

In this episode BCP welcomes VTScoop writer and host of the Inside the Tunnel podcast Matej Sis to give us a preview of how the 2024 class could shape up for the Hokies. Matej also joins our debate regarding the Hokies offensive staff shake-up as we head into the start of Spring Practice. We also get to share our interview with Hokies wrestling aficionado David Fuqua as we look towards Nationals later this week.

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And welcome back corner podcast,
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Fellas, we got a big one on the
Slate tonight.

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We got a lot of topics to cover.
We got some wrestling talk, we

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got some recruit and talk, we're
going to talk some new coaches.

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We got a little bit of women's
Hoops, talk to go through.

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So we got a Full Slate tonight.
We are jam-packed alley.

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You're pretty packed up, man.
Ready to go everything in just a

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little while here mattei system
24/7 going to jump on with us to

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talk all things recruiting.
We will be talking with the new

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hires, with him, a lot to unload
dare.

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I think I think a couple of
curveballs.

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I think mean we had heard did
not we're not what we saw but

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we're going to talk about that
later but we're going to kick

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off this evening.
Me and Brian got to sit down

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with one of my really good
friends.

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And by the name of David few
days is one of my fraternity

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Brothers.
I've known him almost 20 years

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of my life.
He was a division to wrestler

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down at Longwood and he is a
hokie wrestling Aficionado.

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And when I talked to him a few
weeks ago about doing it, me and

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Brian and him were thinking,
what, 15, 10, 15, 20 minutes, we

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have 30 minutes worth of content
and it's jam-packed as hokey as

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the Hokies are in the wrestling.
National Finals starting on the

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16th.
So starting Thursday with a

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chance.
So we're going to get to that

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first.
So Brian, without further Ado,

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I'll let you punch the tape on
that and then we will be coming

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back.
All right, here we go.

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We got David Fuqua interview are
in right now, both our podcast

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listeners tonight, we have a
very special guest with a few

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days away from WrestleMania.
Selling Nationals.

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I've talked about him all year,
I mentioned the name David

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Fuqua, David my fraternity
brother, the man who took me to

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my personal greatest moment in
Lane Stadium. 2005.

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Georgia Tech game day.
For some reason, he gave me a

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ticket to come with him that
night.

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I still don't know why but I
ever since then I've always been

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my brother but David was a
wrestler at Longwood.

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David is a very very common sort
of hokey wrestle.

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He Follow them very closely.
And as I was joking with him

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today is the wrestling.
The stuff come out, Brian.

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He literally is last night going
through in his office.

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He's a CPA.
So he's working his ass off this

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time of year he's literally
going through.

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Seeing how far can each take,
wrestler get.

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So we're going to bring him on
tonight to talk about the season

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and Nationals Foundry Corner
podcast listeners.

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Give a warm.
Welcome to one of my best

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friends, David Fuqua.
How's it going tonight?

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Good.
How about you?

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Are you guys doing?
We're doing good brother.

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We're doing good, man.
I mean talking Hokies football

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basketball, which must not talk
about what happened last night

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that was ugly, lots of good
things, but man, hokey

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wrestling, you know, you grew up
down in the area, you grew up in

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Vin and you wrestled.
Did you ever think hooky

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wrestling would get where it is
right now?

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Definitely not.
I mean, there was talks where

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they were going to get rid of
the program I know specially

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even after before Kevin dresser
came on and when Brands went to

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Iowa, they were, I think they
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driving the program.
And what our girls clothes that

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I know, is that close.
It was close writing, stuff up

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stuff out, but in dress, her
came on and he dumped in there.

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R2 coaching position, and
obviously they are where they

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are now.
You know, him leading.

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And then now coach will be
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It's perfect.
He just perfect.

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Yeah, and let's talk a little
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that's going like going into
this season kind of what were

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your expectations for the team?
Well, I mean, I was excited,

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there's a couple of weight
classes that, you know, there

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were some battles for starting
positions, you know, 125 with

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Have an Eddie and then having
Cooper, they are going on for a

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battle there.
Even at 141, didn't know if

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Tampa Tom was going to be able
to take over and go be able to

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take that spot.
So and he actually did, you

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know, be now calling on that,
which he was a qualifier in a

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couple times already.
So so that was impressive in

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itself and then even 65 we had
Transferring from Chattanooga,

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Drew Nicholson, who he was a
qualifier and come into battle.

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Connor, Brady to so that and
then, as well as the 197 with

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Andy Smith and or the junkyard
don't guard dog.

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You don't know if he was going
to you know who was going to

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take that on.
So you had some solid guys.

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Obviously, you know, coming back
was in do nian and Makai Tona.

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So you had your core group there
so I was excited.

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There's definitely.
It's taken are going to be able

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to go and get a dual
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Championship at least and fight
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So yeah, was excited to see.
We're going, you know, what

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they're planning on doing.
And yeah, they had some tough

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test early on, you know, how
State they definitely do their

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schedule right by test
themselves, early and see where

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they're at Sea where they need
to be.

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So, I mean, that's kind of what
I was expecting and, you know,

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ultimately overall Probably
right, where, you know, I I

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expected them to be and you had
some guys jump out and some

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others in might have been a
little bit disappointed times,

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but it's wrestling.
It's a tough long season, so

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Ebbs and flows.
Absolutely.

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And you're right, I mean, top 10
ranking, again, I think any

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hooky sports fan.
You see that?

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You know, they're going to be
good.

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You mentioned, Ohio State, Ohio
State's a good program beating

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Mizzou.
I mean, I see I've been looking

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at the championship mizzou's.
Got guys all over.

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The place to qualify.
So their quality program,

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Cornell and playing.
Obviously, the ACC would NC

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State and pit, but let me ask
this and I don't, you have to

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bust anybody, but let's just be
realistic.

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What wrestler?
This year, has exceeded your

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expectations and who didn't
quite hit, where you thought

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they'd be, or maybe in their
development, you know, for this

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season.
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mean, the one that is exceeded
is the number four seed, Caleb

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Henson.
I mean, immediately, he came in,

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he was It's a highly touted
recruit.

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I mean, he's a true freshman
starting and the first duel me

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that he had was against number
two ranks.

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A nice ass of a high 0 State and
he takes him out.

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So right off the bat is super
impressed and, you know, and

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they ended up just losing.
He lost three time.

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You know, one day Yanni the
number one, ranked guy.

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Another one was to mall or from
Mizzou who is a he's the eighth

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seed of leave.
And then you got the 12 seed zap

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from pins, those are his three
laws.

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So it's not like he lost to one
of us coming in there and some

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quality and he's got some
quality wins to us a.

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So he's got some other top
victories under his belt.

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So you can do some damage and
and on the flip side of that, I

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mean, like I said, I was excited
about everything and one person

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that kind of it was, it is What
it is, but you know, I was

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excited for Connor, Brady to see
what he's going to do this year.

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And he had some, he had some
very tough matches, and it was a

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string of match especially early
on.

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And in ACC play wedding, he lost
it and see steak.

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And then he lost the pit.
And I mean, they were closed,

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tough type matches and so it's
just like, disappointing because

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he's got that, he's got that
factor to where he can really

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turn it on and do something.
I mean, he was want to say, he

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was the number nine overall
rank.

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Recruit in the nation when he
came in and he was number two or

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three in his weight class, so
it's just like, all right, when

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we go on, turn it on, let's go,
let's see this.

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And so I was a little
disappointed, but, you know

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what, ACC tournament showed up
and he, you know, you got a

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Revenge win and he Pete, pit
Heller are Holden and then he

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got, he got in there, and he
went for the championship seven

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and he came almost came out
Victorious, and in the van,

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Miles to so, so he definitely
redeemed himself in my eyes on

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that.
So it was just again, like I was

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talking about earlier, it's Ebbs
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So you might have a lull and be
down, but there's no if he Peak

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at the right time, that
everybody forgets about that and

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that's good to hear, you know,
kind of talking about the the

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highs and lows on that front.
But let's talk about this.

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What in your opinion has been
the absolute highlight from a

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team perspective, looking back
on the season 2 Point.

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Well, if you follow wrestling
protect, you know, our biggest

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Rivals NC State.
So the fact that they have a one

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beside their record and that's
the only little cloth that they

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have all years when they took
them out.

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That's definitely the highest
the high right now.

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Hopefully, you know, we can have
our end of the week, you know.

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Hopefully we can have another
little high and actually see if

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we can bring home some Hardware
being a top for.

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It's definitely a potential but
they definitely got to have a

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good, a good tournament, kind of
reminiscent, how 2016 was and in

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order to get that Hardware.
But yeah that's the high that I

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have and, you know, beaten and
she stays always good.

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It's always nice to prevent them
from having an undefeated

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season.
Yeah.

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And that that, when effectively
split the regular season,

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Pionship between the Hokies and
the wolf pack.

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And also that was the night.
I think, Mia's a rest as a hokie

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fan in watching wrestling.
That was a night that took it

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big 5900 people in Castle that
place was rocking.

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And who was the local kid Andy
Smith that got that point where

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they knew.
They cannot, they met tires, but

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they cannot win.
They cannot win this.

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They cannot win this duel.
You have to tell me where

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definitions I text him all the
time by the way, during the

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match it.
So why did this happen?

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Or we going to be able to win?
Because the pit seriously, the

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pit.
I miss like the first three

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matches.
I text me like, we can't win

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anything.
I'm like, so it's two matches in

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and that's why I'm here because
I was talking to him about, you

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know, the rankings of who was,
who was expected to win, and

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that NC State match was a
rollercoaster ride in itself,

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you know, we had an upset, we
got upset bowling almost upset,

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the number two guy in the nation
Adams.

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Now, 3, it was up 30 and ended
up losing it at the end, but and

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then that's how I was like,
okay?

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Since Poland couldn't take that
and that was again, where I was

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talking about how, you know,
Connor Brady.

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It kind of was a little
disappointment because he was

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ranked higher and projected.
It was a coin flip, but he was

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spring tired than his opponent,
and he ended up losing that.

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And that's why I was like, okay,
this is really going to become

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down to.
We're going to need a, we're

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gonna need one of these three
guys at the end, whether it was

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bowling or Smith or our cactus,
And getting an upset.

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So then bowling was coming out
there and I was like, okay, he

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might get it and then he ended
up losing it.

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And over time we lost for
overtime matches in that in that

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duel me.
So we're right there with them

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in the fact that, you know, we
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that was perfect and it was
definitely exciting and he

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earned it and he had agreed a
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So, I mean, that was definitely
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Awesome.
Alright, so in the ACC

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tournament last weekend, In Tech
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they get to individual titles.
How important is the conference

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championships in wrestling, the
grand scheme of things as

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compared to the regular season.
He's talking about individual or

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overall team.
Give me both because I feel

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like, isn't that where Mike I
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effectively kind of he may have
missed a chance to win another

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national title.
He got her was a couple years

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ago where and I think it was in
the Dual meet, right?

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Going again before that.
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He got Wrestling.
I think it was against Pitt and

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he got hurt there but then he
ended up wrestling and he

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actually just medical forfeit so
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But okay.
Got you a it is important

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because especially this year
with the seating there, okay?

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It's a weighted.
The way that they do, see it in

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its, you never know what's going
to happen who they are.

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Whether it go away, whether it's
actual winning percentage, or

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the RPI who you beat, so this
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the seedings it That conference
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ratings and then there are
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So, because there's definitely
some people that, you know, have

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one loss, but they might be
seated, you know, 8th 9th or

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10th because they didn't win
their conference Championship.

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And then there's another, you
know, so the winning the

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individual, your weight class
definitely is helpful for

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seeding for NCC, NCAA
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And Saying that peace and that
shows you, because, you know,

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Caleb Henson is ranked across
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eighth, you know, amongst the
coaches and the cross inner mat

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and Flo, Flo wrestling and the
end up with the foresee that

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conference Championship.
So and I think he definitely

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deserves that, but I mean, we'll
see how it all plays out.

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But you know winning that
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good and it went in as a team.
Team is definitely a bragging

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rights it's especially with
there's only six teams in the

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ACC definitely want to have
that.

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You want to have that that
bragging rights and NC State.

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Unfortunately has that right now
but there's definitely things in

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the works with the recruiting
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The guys that they have coming
in, they can definitely take

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that up and be able to do some
things with that and flip that

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script.
Yes.

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So we had a good showing at the
at the acc's the program over

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the last decade, has really kind
of been building itself into a

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top 10 power this week and kind
of another first with 10

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wrestlers, qualifying for
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How big of a deal is it having
10 wrestlers, make it to

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Nationals?
It's a huge deal.

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I mean, were one of four teams
in the country that can say that

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and one of those teams that It
is not NC State and one of them

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is not Penn State so that's one
thing we got up on both of

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those.
It allows you to score more team

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points because that's what you
need you guys to score points in

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order to win and get into the
trophy talk top for get

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placements as far as the team
team titles and that's what we

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got.
We got fourth back in 2016 and

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funny thing is we beat Iowa by
one point back in 2016, so it

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was kind of nice and Especially
after that whole time Brands

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thing and so it was enjoyable
for that to happen.

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But yeah.
So I mean having more bodies

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there and more capabilities to,
you know, pull off pull off an

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upset or run, have a Deep Run in
the tournament.

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So some prize some surprising
matches that might happen with

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always happens, you'll have, you
know, and in basketball you'll

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get the 512 upset, you know,
there's always one out of the

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four.
You're definitely going to get

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some upsets It's and the good
thing about wrestling is if you

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lose once you can still run it
back.

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You can come back and get there,
you know, actually talking about

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our 16-team, you know, are 174.
He was ranked, I think eight, he

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lost the first round, and he
came back and he won seven

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straight matches, and he got
bonus points and so he scored a

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lot of points for us to help us
out.

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And he was able to, you know, be
a part of the team to get that.

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To get that trophy so it's nice
and so you can battle back.

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So just because you lose once
you're not done, you keep going.

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Nice thing, also to you in the
way you mentioned the points and

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everything.
In my head says, if you have 10

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guys, it's easier to get a
chance to win a National Title.

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Where if you're with eight,
everybody's got a win.

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Everybody's got to go deep.
So for our 10 wrestlers, who

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have made it, you know, Hunter
catgut Annie Smith hundred

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bowling Kyle Lewis Connor, Brady
Bryce adani, Kayla Pence and

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Tom, Crooks a mokona.
It even tresca.

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And yes it is very tough to say
than Trust Co skill with Eddie

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great.
We're going to give you four

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categories and I want you to put
each guy or multiple guys in

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them about where you think
they're going to land.

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And I'm only with the first one
here.

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Who are?
You just glad that they got to

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the National Championship stage?
Well Eddie being one.

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Especially about the year that
he was having up and down.

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He had some good good matches
and Cooper Cooper coming in

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there and taking over for a
match against Pitt, and him

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getting the getting the starting
position back so it was for him

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to be.
There is definitely a good

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thing.
It's got to be a good psyche,

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redshirt freshman.
So he's got three years left,

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something to build upon so it's
definitely good for him.

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He's got a tough draw and you
know, Where he's at, he's going

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to wrestle a kid from Missouri
first round.

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He lost 6-4 during the end of
the year or the beginning of the

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year.
So I mean, he could, he could

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flip that, you never know.
So like I said, he's a, you

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know, are scuse me.
He's wrestling.

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The I think actually Northern
Colorado.

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Sorry about that.
But yeah.

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So I mean, Eddie can can flip
the script and actually, you

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know, get a couple wins now.
To become All-American.

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Definitely will be a little bit
tough for him.

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But like I said, he's got three
years he can build upon this.

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All the greats, have done it.
The tone has done it and

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Indonesian study, so all the
guys have got to get there first

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and then, whatever happens
happens if you have a good

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weekend and he showed me get a
medal around your neck, that's

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perfect.
But first you got to get there

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and having all 10 guys.
There's perfect.

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Now these I got three more guys
in this category.

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I know but and I'll preface this
is that, you know, Connor Brady,

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like I was talking about before
yeah, he should be happy that

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he's there.
But he's also should be having a

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drive because he's got the
quality to get there to be an

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All-American.
He could get there.

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Same thing for Andy Smith, he's
very good, very solid.

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Good defense.
Obviously, he got the pulled out

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the win against NC State.
So he too has that quality to be

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able to get over the hump.
When a couple matches in a row,

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get into the blood rounds, be
able to get into that all

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American fight and we'll see
what happens with him and then

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Hunter caki, he's got the
pedigree to be able to do the

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same thing but it's tough this
time of year and you're getting

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all the best and and all the
nation Division. 1 wrestling is

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its intense and it's crazy.
That's why I stuck the division

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to wrestling, so because I
definitely would have made it

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individual one.
But, but it doesn't mean that I

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don't love the sport as much and
I, and I really enjoy watching

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these guys battle and I feel
form and root form hardcore.

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So those are the four guys that
I have in that category.

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I seagull Category, 2.
All right, category to these are

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guys that have the Potential to
kind of take the step to get to

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that All-American level.
Who do you got in that category?

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And that's why I say, I was
close to putting this last three

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there with Brady and Smith and
khaki because they can get

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there.
But I was looking at their draw

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and it's going to be, they're
going to have to have a good

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good weekend.
They can do it.

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They have the capability and
they have the skill to do.

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So and I'm pulling for him
because I want them to do so,

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but it's definitely a higher
higher mountain to climb for

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them.
The person that I have in here

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for potential All-American is
one of the freshmen phenoms time

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crook so he's 15 seed.
So you know you get to the top

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12 is blood rounds basically and
you got to get in top eight so

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he can definitely take out some
people.

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He's got some big wins this
year.

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He's able to, he's been able to
take out a couple guys that have

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been ranked higher than him and
then even the close matches that

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he's lost.
Just against higher rank eyes

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and then we can do it, you can
turn it around.

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I just want to see him attack to
be able to get to his is

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offense.
And the sometimes when he's lost

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it's been like, okay, it seems
like he's on his back foot just

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waiting for it to happen when
he's when he's attacked and he

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can do it.
And I mean the fact that he's a

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true freshman and he's in the
NCAA tournament is great and

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there's 10 true freshmen that
are in the tournament of 330.

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My God, there's 10 true freshman
and Tech has two of them.

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That's big.
That's Elite, man.

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That's Lovely.
By the way.

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Colloquy.
So we're two things in and

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you've only got half the guys.
So the next category is who is

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All-American or bust?
Well, I mean, I think I'm hoping

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they're all Americans because I
don't want them to be busts.

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No, we don't either, but we got
Sam Latona 133 is definitely,

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you know, he's shown, he can
beat and wrestle with The big

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guys, he's had a couple losses
where you're like head

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scratching and then he's had
some close losses to so

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especially with NC State
araignee.

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You know.
He lost on the last 10 seconds

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in the semifinals ACC, but he
came back, got third, wrestled,

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strong did what he needed to do
to get to Nationals.

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So I think I'll be okay on that.
On our bowling, you know,

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Redshirt senior, seems like he's
been there.

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Six years, seven years almost.
It's his final ride and he's

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been an All-American before last
year.

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He didn't, he didn't get it and
he, I think he went wanted to

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last year, so he's kind of a
disappointment on that piece.

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So I'm sure in his mind.
He's ready to let loose get back

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on that Podium.
So I think he's definitely going

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to do it or else.
He'll he'll probably feel a

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little bit bad if he his last
year.

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He doesn't get that taken care
of, then these Next two were

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close to the next spot but I
don't think they're there yet.

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Caleb.
Henson that freshman I was

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talking about 149.
He's just, he's special, he's

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going to be enjoyable to watch
over the next three.

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Three, additional years.
Yeah, he's the force, he can, if

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things go as seed his chocolate,
he can make it and he'll go up

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against a three-time national
champion and Yony who we lost.

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At 26 22 this year.
So it was a close match so you

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never know like I said it just
went takes one match and Yony

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lost this year too.
So so there's a potential you

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know that he is beatable so you
never know.

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And that would potentially be in
the semi-finals of when he would

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meet him.
So that's exciting to watch and

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we'll see how far he goes.
And like I said, he's got three

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more years after that.
My last All-American or bus

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would be Bryce antonian.
You don't know what you're going

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to get with them, but you're
going to get excitement, that's

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for sure.
You made a great run last year

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being the 11 seed and you made
it all the way to the three.

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You got third place.
So he 16 matches last year so he

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definitely he learned it last
year.

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We had a good weekend and
hopefully does the same thing

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this this year.
He's got a, he's got a good

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spot.
I mean, he and his quarterfinal,

441
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,400
he would be up against a
freshman from Penn State, Levi,

442
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:37,200
Haines who just won the Big Ten
at that, it would be asked, but,

443
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:42,000
you know, he can use his
seniority and kind of know using

444
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:48,000
his Junior National skills, to
be able to take out Levi hands.

445
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,800
So that's what I'm pulling for
and we'll see if he gets here

446
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,500
and gets the same ease.
And they even see If you can get

447
00:26:55,500 --> 00:27:00,600
to the finals, good for Brawn
jumps in with the last question

448
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:04,100
of the poor in the All-American,
or bus category.

449
00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:07,100
Who's the one you think could
win the national title?

450
00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:12,100
And surprisingly, I mean, I
think it's Indonesian could

451
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:17,600
definitely could Okay.
And like I said, I liked his

452
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,200
drawl.
I think he can, he can take it

453
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,400
to the guys that he that's in
his side of the bracket and

454
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,500
then, Then if it the top seed
remains, and it's Austin

455
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:32,900
O'Connor who you lost to, in the
ACC Championship, and that would

456
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:36,100
be sweet to go to the National
Championship face.

457
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,800
The guy that you lost to.
Unfortunately, it's all come six

458
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,600
times and he's lucky number
seven.

459
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:45,700
Yeah, exactly.
But it's been closed the pass a

460
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:48,100
list.
Last one was closed and and

461
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:49,800
their Styles, just kind of are
different.

462
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,900
And so it's, you know, Connors a
national champion.

463
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:55,800
So it's not like he's asked By
any means.

464
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,100
So I think you could get to him
and that would be sweet to take

465
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:04,500
him on and get that one win on
the national stage if he can get

466
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:07,400
there and do that.
So he's got the capability to do

467
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,000
it.
Especially with that run that he

468
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,900
had last year.
He could definitely do it again

469
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,400
because he was one point away
from being in the national

470
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,900
championship last year.
Yeah.

471
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,300
So so, we'll see how that your
grace is always exciting.

472
00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:22,000
Like, you always going to get
some fireworks?

473
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,200
There.
It is.

474
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,700
It is your like, how does he
get?

475
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,200
It on top from being where he
was just that, you know, he'll

476
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:32,300
roll through a lot and he likes
the to get the body locks and

477
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:35,800
throw, he's just comfortable in
that position.

478
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,200
It's almost like he's inviting
people to go into positions that

479
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,100
he knows he can take advantage
of and that's something that I

480
00:28:43,108 --> 00:28:48,200
think he'll reach back and throw
people will leave his head down

481
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,500
on the map to try to be like
okay go ahead and throw this

482
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:53,800
half in so you can try to you
know put me on my back and I'm

483
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,700
just going to roll through.
But you on your back.

484
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:58,800
I mean, it is, it's crazy.
Just seriously, just watching

485
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,600
him wrestle.
It's entertaining for sure.

486
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:04,600
And it's head-scratching to
because you're like, how are you

487
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,000
doing that?
But then when he ends up

488
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:12,400
flipping the script on the guy,
you're like, okay they trust

489
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,400
what he's doing, I know, right?
So the last category and we can

490
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,400
by process of elimination.
We're looking at one guy fitting

491
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,300
in here.
But who is the legit National

492
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:25,000
Champion Contender on this team?
Mmmmm.

493
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,000
Well, you gotta go with the, the
champ, Makai Lewis.

494
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:33,100
I mean, I know he was a champion
in 2019 and then he, you know,

495
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,000
he took Olympic year and then it
was the covid here and then he

496
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:43,200
got hurt and then you know up
until last year's final, he was

497
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,400
undefeated in the National
Tournament 19-year, wherein he

498
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,100
was undefeated because he won
the Nationals and then the next

499
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,200
year, when they had it in 21 he
was Hurt.

500
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,200
But he wrestled, two matches, he
won two matches.

501
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,000
Got to the quarter-final and
then he medically forfeit it

502
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,300
out.
So, so those weren't technically

503
00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:06,300
losses on him.
He just had to withdraw from the

504
00:30:06,308 --> 00:30:09,800
tournament and then last year we
made it to the finals and he was

505
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,700
seconds away from being a
national championship again, a

506
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:17,700
national champion again because
they took it to the double

507
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:22,400
overtime, right outs and so, and
that's against Carter start,

508
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,200
Russia of her Penn State to Who
is now a two-time national

509
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,900
championship?
He's the number one seed and

510
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:32,400
weight class but Makai is down
below.

511
00:30:32,700 --> 00:30:36,400
So he wouldn't meet him until
you know the final potentially

512
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,100
and Makai you can take out.
Mikey labriola is the number two

513
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:47,500
seed and he lost him this year
and it was in sudden Victory so

514
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,900
it was an overtime and it was a
scramble.

515
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:53,500
So Micaiah was actually looking
like he was going to get them

516
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:56,700
and he When off the mat, so they
had to stop and they've

517
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:59,600
restarted it.
Like, I got back in again and

518
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,900
then labriola just scrambled
ended up on top.

519
00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:05,000
So it was a, it was a close
close loss.

520
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,100
But I think Mike, I could
definitely flip that and take

521
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:11,800
the win this time and even in
the championship will see how it

522
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,200
pans out.
I kind of think that's how it's

523
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:18,200
going to go, but we'll see.
We'll see, I'm excited.

524
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,700
And kind of one more thing about
having all 10 weight classes,

525
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:26,600
you have more eyes on you.
Visibility of the program.

526
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:31,700
Yeah, and it's reflecting.
I mean in recruiting I'm looking

527
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:36,500
at who they've signed for 20 or
who they're getting for 2023 out

528
00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:39,000
of any of the top 200 in the
nation.

529
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:43,600
They have six guys.
You know they got to the number

530
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,900
9 so he's like the number two or
three heavyweight, he's coming

531
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:49,200
in.
He's a guys, enjoy him.

532
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,300
Jim molan.
Yeah.

533
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,400
So you know that As we do.
Oh yeah.

534
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:00,000
And then Sammy Sasso his
brother, he's coming and he's

535
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:03,700
he's going to be either 197
maybe heavy weight as well.

536
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:05,100
So I mean they're going to have
some good guys.

537
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:07,000
He's the number 30 recruitment
agency.

538
00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:09,200
Probably top 10 in his weight
class.

539
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:16,900
Then we got a Virginia boy
Rafael Hipolito and he's from up

540
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:22,600
in Ashburn and he's number 88
and they and then we got two

541
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,900
boys that are in the 141. 49
that are coming in there, number

542
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,300
45, and 46 in the nation, you
know Hector church and Hunter

543
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:34,900
Mason and then we got another
one that's ranked and I mean to

544
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,600
it's just showing you that we're
getting top-ranked, guys.

545
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:44,100
It's not just all people going
to Penn State Iowa, Iowa State.

546
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:47,200
You know, we're definitely, you
know, we're taking some guys

547
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,700
away and they're going to be
solid.

548
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:53,800
It's but the room wrestling's
going to be great because

549
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:59,300
Typically, you know, I think the
only people that were really

550
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:03,600
losing this year our hunter:,
because he's a redshirt senior,

551
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,200
he's all out Makai looks unless
he wants to come back, he has

552
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,200
one more year of Eligibility.
I mean, he's been in college for

553
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,300
a while, so he might be ready
to, you know, to move on and do

554
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:17,500
things at Elmo on the National
Team level.

555
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:21,400
So, we don't know.
And then even Bryce antonian, he

556
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:22,500
has one more year of
Eligibility.

557
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,500
He's a senior.
But I don't know if he's going

558
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:28,800
to come back or not, so which he
might because, you know, he's

559
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,900
lost four straight ACC titles
and and O'Connor will be gone.

560
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:38,500
So yeah, it opens it up for him
because he's always here, when

561
00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:43,600
darling, I know, I can come back
and get one here even if they're

562
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,100
not coming back some solid guys
coming in, filling those spots

563
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,800
and mean, even with the guys
already in the room, too, I

564
00:33:51,808 --> 00:33:55,900
mean, it's just definitely
Something enjoyable and and

565
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:59,400
always say this, I keep thinking
this is what's going to have

566
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,300
this going to be this board.
I think that Tech will get there

567
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,300
if we want to get a national
championship as a team.

568
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:08,600
I think the wrestling team is
the one that's going to have to

569
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,699
provide it because hopefully
football get there again.

570
00:34:12,699 --> 00:34:17,699
But now I like the wrestling
teams odd right now more so than

571
00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:20,199
the football but they gotta grow
to.

572
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,500
So God will listen big man.
We really appreciate you.

573
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:27,199
You coming on tonight, going
through this.

574
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:29,600
I mean, for anybody that watches
this and we watching the

575
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,100
National Finals, you gave an
unbelievable breakdown.

576
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:36,500
Say some time on your calendar
in the fall when we get close to

577
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:39,000
wrestling season, Brian, he's
coming back.

578
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,100
Any book.
You will, come on and give us a

579
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:45,100
wrestling preview, will give you
some weeks in advance.

580
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:48,600
Luckily, it won't be tax season,
so you won't be having to be in

581
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:52,300
your office at 9:00 at night.
But brother good seeing you as

582
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:53,800
always.
So if we can catch up sometime

583
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,800
here in the RV, Say you have a
good evening night.

584
00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:59,300
How are you to appreciate it?
Appreciate it.

585
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:12,300
The heck of an interview there,
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00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:15,600
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595
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:47,100
righty Ron, without further Ado,
Bring Em In the man, the myth,

596
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:49,800
the legend, the taste sis VT
scoop.

597
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,300
How you doing tonight, man?
I'm doing well.

598
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:53,500
Can you guys hear me?
Okay.

599
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:56,700
Is the mic setup.
Well, yeah, yeah, we got you.

600
00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:59,100
We got you.
I was struggling a little bit

601
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:02,100
backstage, but it's coming out.
All right.

602
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,700
Yeah, yeah, this is the first
time entering the Green Room.

603
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:10,400
Well, we're Midstream, there's a
little little adjustments here

604
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,700
in real time but I appreciate
the That you sound good on this

605
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:16,900
Earth You said you were taking
some notes during the wrestling

606
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:20,400
lesson there.
Clearly that starts in a couple

607
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,100
days.
Clearly, we got a good shot at

608
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:25,000
that in before we get into the
crew.

609
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,300
Talk.
Let's talk about this because

610
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:29,700
you are VT alumni.
You got the wrestling team big

611
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,100
showing up in up in Tulsa this
week.

612
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:36,900
Let's talk about the women's
team though, win the ACC

613
00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:38,400
Championship and not only win
it.

614
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,400
I think everybody watch some of
those games.

615
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,400
Maybe their bodies ass in those
three games.

616
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,000
It wasn't like it was
competitive games.

617
00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:51,300
They dominated.
And now the number one seed,

618
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,900
they're going to be having games
in Castle this weekend, which is

619
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,300
unbelievable.
And, you know, looking at the

620
00:36:58,308 --> 00:37:02,500
bracket, you know, I'm buddy.
Shelton has been saying, Italy,

621
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:06,100
daily date, that looks legit.
And if they go to final four,

622
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:09,600
they're beating Yukon.
How's that make you feel as an

623
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,500
Alum to, you know, to have that
happen to your school?

624
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,200
I mean it's awesome.
Like anytime you're talking

625
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,400
about the big dance and
especially like Virginia Tech

626
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,700
with the number one seed next to
their name.

627
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:23,000
Like that's incredible.
It's like something you don't

628
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,400
think about.
Like you know when it comes to

629
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Men's Basketball, you're hoping
just to make the tournament and

630
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,800
then you're talking about the
women's team, absolutely?

631
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,700
Like it's just domination like
the game against Duke was just

632
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,000
you know, from start to finish.
They Did everything better and

633
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,700
it looks like like not just
making the dance but having

634
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:48,500
legitimate hope to go very far
and like I would absolutely love

635
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:52,500
to see like this Virginia Tech
Team faced off against UConn.

636
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:56,600
Like, that would be unbelievable
story program of UConn, women's

637
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,900
basketball versus the risers in
Virginia Tech like that's that's

638
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:04,700
storybook stuff.
Yeah, that mean that's a game

639
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:09,200
that can kind of put you in that
big time Conversation because

640
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,400
really women's Hoops is kind of
usually dominated by, you know,

641
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,000
two or three teams every year.
If this is the year where

642
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,500
Virginia take takes that step,
that could be huge, especially

643
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,000
Downstream, as you talk about
recruiting in a few years where

644
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,700
you're getting the consistent
and caliber players that the

645
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:28,400
South Carolina is, are getting
every year.

646
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,500
Now if you know, we're probably
like one step away from that and

647
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:34,800
this could be, you know, that
kind of cycle that puts us on

648
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,400
the national stage that kind of
helps us take that step. 100%.

649
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,500
Yeah, I was looking at the
bracket like I was a little

650
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:48,500
surprised at how is like a is in
there, North Carolina, like

651
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:52,700
there are some tough teams but
you know luckily if they make it

652
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:57,000
all the way, you know South
Carolina is a wagon there on the

653
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,600
other side so at least they get
to avoid them.

654
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,600
But yeah, the number one seed is
huge and obviously like

655
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:08,100
legitimizes the program like
puts them in that upper echelon.

656
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:12,000
You know, we've been waiting for
this for a little bit and it's

657
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,900
awesome to see that you know
it's coming to fruition.

658
00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:20,000
Absolutely.
All right, so that's fun stuff

659
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,000
to talk about.
There's one thing that somebody

660
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,600
on this program needs to address
with you before we go further.

661
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,000
Tally, tell you, how are you
doing tonight, man?

662
00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:30,700
I'm doing well, how are you
doing?

663
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:34,200
Are you need to give me a re
follow on Twitter?

664
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,000
I've been following you for
years.

665
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,000
I've been following you on 24/7.
I need a treat.

666
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,200
I need the reef follow, buddy.
By the end of the night.

667
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,200
It's come.
There you go.

668
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:48,700
You the man.
He said, the reason he joined

669
00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:51,000
the podcast was to get imitator,
he followed.

670
00:39:51,000 --> 00:40:02,900
And that was it.
I got to get this out there.

671
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:07,700
I got to get the follow.
I have, to be honest to, like,

672
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,300
whenever I go to my feed, like,
I always see tally on there.

673
00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:16,800
You might as well be followed
him everywhere.

674
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,600
All right, let's get into
football talk because there is a

675
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,800
ton of news and aircon things.
We want to ask mattei, but

676
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:29,000
yesterday the news broke and it
was announced in today, it was

677
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,700
kind of discussed at the
pressors, two new coaches hired.

678
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,600
Let's start with the first
Elijah Brooks the new running

679
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,800
back coach.
Eliza Brooks is coming from the

680
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,600
Maryland program where he had
been since 2018 producing.

681
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,500
You know, some really good
running backs to the NFL

682
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:50,200
Anthony, mcparland Jayvon leak.
Jake funked AV on fleek Davis.

683
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,900
So right there for years for
different backs, the bigger part

684
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:59,100
with him, he was an eight-year
coach of DeMatha anybody in the

685
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:02,300
country knows DeMatha is a stud
football program in while he was

686
00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:06,600
there for eight years, he had
their best eight year stretch.

687
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:08,900
Hmm.
That's saying a lot about that

688
00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:12,300
program.
So you know, William and Mary

689
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:14,700
Graduate played down Are William
and Mary.

690
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,400
If a guy plays football down
there and comes out coaching

691
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:24,300
finally, Jimmy, laycock coaching
tree is stud, yo man.

692
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,800
So I'm going to take it.
It's awesome here on here

693
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:33,600
because give us some recruiting
insight about, you know, who's

694
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,200
recruited.
Where do you think you'll be

695
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:39,500
recruiting with tech?
Yeah, I mean it is a little

696
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:45,500
awkward noting that Ramon Brown
The attack was in on.

697
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,400
He's the main reason he went to
Maryland but you know in all

698
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,500
seriousness he's a guy that has
ties all over Maryland like very

699
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:58,600
well respected coach Brian was
talking about him and saying how

700
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,600
they were eyeing it for
positional coach while they're

701
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,900
at Penn State like this higher
is not just about his coaching

702
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:11,400
pedigree, but really about
securing, state of Maryland and

703
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,800
working in tandem with, And pry
has a ton of connections there

704
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,500
from his time at Penn State as
well.

705
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:21,600
You know, he's going to be all
over the state and it's not, you

706
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:25,100
know, it is about him going to
those high schools and where he

707
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:28,000
does, you know, have that great
reputation.

708
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,200
But it's also bringing these
other guys on staff with him,

709
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,700
like Bo and like pry into the
high schools and meeting these

710
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:37,100
guys.
So you know, it's huge for

711
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:39,900
Maryland, especially when you
look at how much talent comes

712
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:43,600
out every single cycle, it's
just huge.

713
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,000
Terms of recruiting.
Yeah, the the Washington

714
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,700
Catholic of athletic
conference's.

715
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:53,100
Just stacked with Talent every
year and it's not just a math.

716
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:57,100
I mean it's across the board and
obviously a guy like him that

717
00:42:57,100 --> 00:43:01,800
has the respect, not only of you
know that DeMatha program but

718
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,000
all those programs from having
coached there for years.

719
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Having recruited for the last
four years of Maryland.

720
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,200
This is just to me Better higher
than I anticipated, especially

721
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:14,400
when we early on in the process.
We're like, alright, we're

722
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,300
probably gonna be hiring a
running back coach, there's

723
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:18,800
going to be some shuffling.
Who's it going to be?

724
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,900
I think we probably came out a
little bit better than we

725
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:24,600
thought we would it with the
with a guy like Elijah Brooks.

726
00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:28,100
We think about Valley.
Oh yeah I think it was a you

727
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:32,500
know, it was a surprise to me.
I didn't know that he was even

728
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,800
kind of on our radar but it's
definitely a welcome.

729
00:43:37,900 --> 00:43:41,400
Welcome surprise.
It's because as a Natalia said,

730
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:47,200
like he's got a great background
from the Athletics up there and,

731
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,100
you know, Marilyn as much as
there are thorn in our side,

732
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:52,800
their program that's, you know,
on the rise a little bit.

733
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:55,600
And if we can get something to
kind of, you know, as we seen,

734
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:57,400
we played them a couple of years
ago.

735
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,000
And we seen outcome of that for
whatever reason.

736
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,600
But you know, if we can still
some still some stuff I would

737
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,700
say plates, like, I'm all for
that.

738
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,500
We have fun tail on a couple of
weeks ago and he talked about

739
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:12,500
the Nation ships in recruiting
and how sometimes you have to

740
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,400
you know get two to three people
before you get to the kid or you

741
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,200
get to the coach you know
somebody like a Brooks with no

742
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,900
that lineage to go through.
So I was excited about it.

743
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:27,100
Yep.
I think we all are excited about

744
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,500
that because that was the name
we hadn't seen.

745
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:33,000
And then you start looking up,
you know, was it Nick cross

746
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,300
Ramon Brown?
He's recruited some pretty

747
00:44:36,300 --> 00:44:40,500
high-profile guys in his time,
in Maryland and short time at

748
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:44,400
Maryland.
So you know I think that's I

749
00:44:44,408 --> 00:44:48,200
think it speaks for itself and I
think you know we'll talk about

750
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,400
some of the shifting in a minute
here.

751
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,800
But I think for the most part
tally, you made a point today

752
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,100
that in you look, Going at it
and being realist, right?

753
00:44:57,100 --> 00:45:00,900
Oh yeah.
You got a I mean you got to send

754
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:03,100
people to recruit what they
like, they got to be

755
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:06,100
comfortable, you know?
Elijah Brooks is going to be, I

756
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:08,700
mean, he's going to be
recruiting running backs.

757
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:11,000
Most of the running backs that
he's going to be recruiting to

758
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,000
Virginia Tech.
What do they look like?

759
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,800
They're gonna look like him?
I'd much rather.

760
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,100
Send him this still hopes to get
me a running back.

761
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:21,200
It's to go get a tight end, a
big white boy.

762
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:24,900
That's fine.
Go get him, but Brooks, we need.

763
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:28,400
Go to the main, you got to go
into the 757, you gotta go onto

764
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,100
Maryland, and you're going to
have to grab some of these.

765
00:45:31,300 --> 00:45:34,700
Some of these running back that
we missed Ramon Brown, he was

766
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:38,400
committed to Virginia Tech for
how long, and then, they stole

767
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:42,200
him away.
Like, how many times have we

768
00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:46,300
been one player away from 23
games?

769
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:50,800
You know, having those having
that one playmaker at a pivotal

770
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,900
position and change the
trajectory of your foot?

771
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,300
Ball team.
So I'm excited about it, man.

772
00:45:57,300 --> 00:45:59,900
I think it was a good move.
I know, we're gonna get into

773
00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:03,200
some more of the, of the, the
shuffling, a little later, but

774
00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:06,600
I'm pretty stoked for real.
Absolutely.

775
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,800
I'm with you on that.
Alright, let's talk about the

776
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,900
second guy.
A guy who owned this program?

777
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:14,400
We got notified.
Tell if you remember a couple

778
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,200
weeks ago, I buddy.
Put in the name in the chat of

779
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,600
wrong Crook, in Rock, Creek is
being you offensive line coach

780
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,000
at Virginia Tech last year?
Going to season that South

781
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,500
Dakota smaller program,
obviously.

782
00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:32,200
But if you look at this 10 year
in the last decade, he was out

783
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,100
of Stanford, then he went to
West Virginia.

784
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,100
Hmm.
And then he was at Cincinnati.

785
00:46:37,100 --> 00:46:40,300
When Cincinnati went to the
playoff Mateo.

786
00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:44,800
I know offensive line is the
toughest position for y'all, any

787
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,800
recruiting serving, anybody
trying to look at it.

788
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,700
But where do you see, Ron crook?
Where do you think he's going to

789
00:46:50,707 --> 00:46:53,600
be recruiting?
And is there anybody out there?

790
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,400
He's coached or Rooted that has
caught your eye.

791
00:46:57,500 --> 00:46:59,800
Yeah.
So he's mainly going to be out

792
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,900
in like, Ohio, South West,
Virginia, obviously.

793
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:07,300
West Virginia has a lot of
contacts there, but surprisingly

794
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:11,800
like Virginia Tech is really
hitting Ohio art this upcoming

795
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,800
week.
Next week.

796
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,800
There's, I think like, 25% of
the visitor list is from Ohio.

797
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,500
So he's already out there
recruiting.

798
00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:23,500
He's already hit up a guy like
TJ Tolliver, four-star,

799
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:27,600
offensive lineman.
In Virginia top ten guy, you

800
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,800
know he's already you know hit
the ground running it's

801
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,000
interesting because you know
like you guys probably heard a

802
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,000
couple weeks ago, he was always
number one in terms of the

803
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,800
offensive line fit and you know
Brent prai has a lot of ties to

804
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:46,200
West Virginia and contacted a
bunch of people got like raving

805
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,500
reviews about him obviously you
talk about Stanford and their

806
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:52,900
lineage of offensive linemen
like most of them go into the

807
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:57,000
NFL, West Virginia.
Beasley recruits a similar level

808
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,300
as Virginia Tech but you know
they fight over a lot of the you

809
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:04,900
know the same Prospect then
obviously at Cincinnati building

810
00:48:04,900 --> 00:48:08,100
up that line which I think is
really important for Virginia

811
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:09,500
Tech.
Right now you have a ton of

812
00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:12,600
young guys in the program being
able to develop them.

813
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,600
Like we didn't see that a lot
last year.

814
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,800
And as good as Joe Rudolph is
and you know as much as people

815
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,200
Rave about him you really need a
guide to bring it the young

816
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,300
guys, build them up and get them
ready.

817
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,500
See it's tough coming in with
spring all you know, about to

818
00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:31,500
kick off.
So we'll see how like the scheme

819
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:34,200
adjustments and all that change
out, but if you're going to

820
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,500
bring in anyone to coach up the
offensive line, want a guy with

821
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:40,300
a ton of experience so I think
it's an all-around.

822
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:42,800
Great iron.
Yeah.

823
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,200
I when I saw it, I was like,
yeah, this this is this is a

824
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,800
really good higher.
It's a good fit.

825
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:51,900
It's a guy that has each coach
in zone schemes.

826
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:54,800
He's coached and some power
schemes out there and Stanford.

827
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,000
In some of that split or po type
stuff that was those run and at

828
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,900
Cincinnati with Ritter there.
So you know I think there's a

829
00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:06,800
lot of upside to what he brings
from a scheme standpoint

830
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,700
especially knowing what we're
trying to move towards and Tyler

831
00:49:09,700 --> 00:49:11,600
bone was talking about it today
in the press conference, you

832
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,000
know, moving towards more
vertical running game, be kind

833
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,600
of set up those rpos and get
Tempo going and things like

834
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,700
that.
And I think some of that was

835
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:23,200
what we wanted to do last year,
but I think this is more of an

836
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,700
emphasis this year.
Especially now that we've got

837
00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:28,700
the Personnel to run it in a
little bit more effective way

838
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,600
and I think Crooks going to do a
good job of kind of filtering

839
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,800
that down to the offensive line
and making them more effective

840
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:37,400
snap to snap and that's the big
thing.

841
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,100
And if we get more effective
especially on first down, that's

842
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:42,300
going to make their job a whole
lot easier on second and third

843
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:44,200
because you're going to put the
defense in a conflict.

844
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:47,900
I mean, you know, I agree.
I agree with, you know, what

845
00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:51,800
seagull, the saying there?
I came up for a game.

846
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,800
Well, I think it was the the
Duke game a couple of years ago.

847
00:49:56,200 --> 00:50:01,600
Had to stay in Princeton West
Virginia which was fucking

848
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:07,000
crazy.
Ha ha ha it's to 350 pound black

849
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,100
man in Princeton West,
Virginia's nuts, and I'm from

850
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:13,500
Alabama.
So I'm used to some redneck

851
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:16,700
Podunk shit, but it was nuts
there.

852
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:18,300
You know, different water
levels.

853
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:21,100
Different level man walked in
Walmart.

854
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:24,100
I was like, this is definitely
where they, they film wrong

855
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:28,100
time.
Fucking crazy.

856
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:33,100
But I mean shit, you got wrong
crook, he's from that area,

857
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:37,600
unites any from Princeton but
the West Virginia area, he's

858
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,300
familiar with it.
I think our best lineman last

859
00:50:40,300 --> 00:50:43,600
year came from West Virginia.
What about high-profile players?

860
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,600
Like I never understood the
going to Germany to get a

861
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,400
fucking offensive lineman you're
in Virginia.

862
00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:55,500
Open the back door.
There's some big ass boys out

863
00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:57,400
there.
That's pushing tractors and

864
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,200
pulling tires and tell them to
come play football.

865
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,100
I mean you got crook out here
wearing his hat backwards in the

866
00:51:04,107 --> 00:51:08,600
snow and rain with shorts on.
That's the offensive line coach

867
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:09,700
man.
That's my kind of dude right

868
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:12,100
there.
That's what kind of dude like I

869
00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:15,700
wouldn't have big advice fan.
You know what I'm saying?

870
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:19,300
Just because you know, whatever
he's gone, ran a couple people.

871
00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:23,900
I thought could have stayed but
whatever the case is, He he had

872
00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:28,800
them, he brought a certain
nastiness practice and to the to

873
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,900
the line that me as a, you know,
tight end offense of lineman

874
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,400
like to see, you know, if you're
going to get a penalty, I want

875
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,300
you to get a penalty gouging,
somebody's ass.

876
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:43,500
Yeah, I don't want you to get a
priest in a pit stop on

877
00:51:43,508 --> 00:51:46,300
somebody's nuts when they're on
the ground, whatever the case

878
00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:48,500
may be.
I like that.

879
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:51,700
Let's go, man, like I think it's
a did I, you know, I got a lot

880
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:55,500
of But it's been on Twitter
talking about the higher the bar

881
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:56,500
blah.
I know we're going to get into

882
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:58,600
it a little bit farther.
I've been pumped up about this

883
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,800
because I've been asking
questions and I can't get the

884
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,400
answers.
So well, here here's the thing.

885
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,100
Like, with the with everything,
the teen you probably did the

886
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:08,900
same with the research
constantly.

887
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:13,500
What I did well, when Crooks
name came across, I bored you, I

888
00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:16,300
started doing the research.
I started looking up and I'll be

889
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:20,500
damned if it everywhere.
He's went, the Run game, has

890
00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:23,500
improved West.
When they won ten back in 64,

891
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:26,700
like 13th in a country and that
was out of the whole person air

892
00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:31,000
raid Zone type, run scheme, what
they did at Cincinnati with

893
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,500
doesn't with Ritter and that are
pea.

894
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:35,300
Oh, split!
Brian, you were talking about

895
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:37,100
the split Zone with that.
Yep.

896
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:42,500
They took that team to a
national championship and they

897
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:44,900
didn't get curb-stomped by
Alabama, Alabama, eventually

898
00:52:44,900 --> 00:52:47,600
beat them, but it's not like
they went out there and didn't

899
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,600
just get beat down so the man
clearly knows how to coach.

900
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,200
And And divine and he's got that
mentality.

901
00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:00,700
So, you know I feel like if you
just see the name, it's not a

902
00:53:00,707 --> 00:53:05,300
flashy name and he was at South
Dakota dig deeper read deeper,

903
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,500
you'll, you'll you'll start
uncovering some good stuff.

904
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:14,700
Alright, so boys, obviously we
got any run-ins bass coach, we

905
00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:17,000
lost a quarterback coach, you
got a new offensive line coach,

906
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,600
it means we still need to coach
has filled out.

907
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,100
And you know, the tea leaves
were Going out over the weekend.

908
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,400
Tyler, Bowen.
Moving the quarterback.

909
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:33,300
Coach.
Matej, you can probably speak to

910
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:36,400
it best when it comes to
recruiting, though the last two

911
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,100
prospects quarterback, why's
that came through the door.

912
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:41,700
Who is their primary recruiter?
Yeah.

913
00:53:41,700 --> 00:53:45,100
Tyler Bowen.
And again you know this cycle

914
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:48,600
you got a guy like de bellefort
guy out of Florida for Star

915
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,700
Quarterback.
You know it's it's really his

916
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:56,400
connection to Bowen and you know
Chiron drones like when he came

917
00:53:56,500 --> 00:54:00,700
it was because bow and went
there is it It took a plane like

918
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:06,200
convinced him to sign on the
night so he's good with you

919
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,900
know, just bringing order backs
recruiting identifying what the

920
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:14,100
offense needs.
Tally, I'll let you go because

921
00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:19,700
you value, I don't know.
You know, I was ready so I was I

922
00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:24,400
was ready but looking at a
looking at, you know, just kind

923
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,600
of how it transpired and we got
called him names.

924
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,400
Everybody's on Twitter.
If y'all ain't on Twitter

925
00:54:30,300 --> 00:54:32,100
fucking with people, you need to
get a life.

926
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,800
This is this, that's the fun
stuff to do.

927
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,600
But, you know, I've seen a lot
of tweets were people saying,

928
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:43,900
you know, I understand, I was
out of our chat.

929
00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:47,200
Probably the most critical of
the staff last year before the

930
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,700
season started.
I said, we have so many new

931
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:53,300
coaches in new places.
I'm not expecting much everybody

932
00:54:53,300 --> 00:54:57,500
says, oh, no, the we're going to
do good, because it is whatever.

933
00:54:57,700 --> 00:55:01,600
So, this year, a little bit more
optimistic, because I've seen

934
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,100
some things and we've got some
more Playmakers.

935
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,100
So now we're going to fast
forward to what we're doing.

936
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,600
Franklin didn't show me nothing.
I think our quarterback play was

937
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,300
the worst that I've seen since
I've been attacked for him last

938
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:16,900
year.
Not saying that's all on the

939
00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:19,400
couch.
Not saying that's all on the kid

940
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:24,500
or kids, but I'm just saying
from what I seen as a tech fan

941
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:28,200
last year there was that was
nothing to build on.

942
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:31,400
So I don't feel like the
quarterback coach.

943
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,300
We had brought anybody in, I
mean and he was an experienced

944
00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:38,100
coach everybody's saying he
doesn't have experience in this.

945
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,500
If you don't have experience in
that, we need Playmakers, we

946
00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:44,900
need people.
Who can we meet some coaches?

947
00:55:44,900 --> 00:55:48,800
That can go recruit and get
Talent when we bought Jerrod in

948
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,600
the dodos that it was coaching
him.

949
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,800
That we figured out.
We didn't really care about.

950
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:55,900
I don't know how much coaching
they did.

951
00:55:55,900 --> 00:56:00,200
He just came in and played
hinden, just came in and play.

952
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,000
You got to go and get some play
makers.

953
00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:06,000
So if Boeing can go and get some
play makers, this it enough.

954
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:10,300
See y'all.
All like he's he's got an

955
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:12,800
opportunity to just get it
started and then we can pivot

956
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,200
next year if we need to go get a
quarterback coach.

957
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:16,600
That's going to be able to give
us a little bit more

958
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,000
development.
I think we can do that but for

959
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,400
are you people on Twitter that's
been talking about how laughable

960
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,900
it is and horrible it is I asked
a question about three times.

961
00:56:28,300 --> 00:56:31,900
Give me some names of some
coaches that are the best coat

962
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:35,100
best quarterback coaches in
college football.

963
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:39,000
I don't know names because
people don't Know that they know

964
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,700
the player you talk about the,
the coach that coach that

965
00:56:42,700 --> 00:56:45,800
cleansing.
He was coaching Trevor Lawrence.

966
00:56:46,300 --> 00:56:48,200
I could have coached Trevor
Lawrence and he would have been

967
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,100
good enough.
I'm saying, like, I'm not taking

968
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:53,800
nothing from the coaches.
I'm just saying, people throw

969
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,400
stuff out before they give it a
chance.

970
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,800
So I'm going to calm down a
little bit, people talk.

971
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,200
I'm going to pass it back to the
panel shit, shut out, Thomas

972
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,100
train for thinking, I look like
Tyler Bowen, so yeah, we got to

973
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,300
Tyler Bono here tonight.
He'll see gloat.

974
00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:15,100
Now, you will say, I will say
this though, ain't no way.

975
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:17,500
You can fuse, the short neck do
for Tyler Boeing, like I ain't

976
00:57:17,500 --> 00:57:21,200
got, this ain't no ain't no way
you were that confused.

977
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:25,800
The seagull you you got some
points on this tally.

978
00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:29,000
Basically what Tally saying and
it's kind of going weapon with

979
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,700
Mateo you saying but tell you
talk about Belfort's, a

980
00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:35,300
four-star, pop Watson's a
four-star drones as a four-star

981
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,100
tally, you just saying I want
somebody that can recruit the

982
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:40,500
room if he can sell the vision
of what he's doing.

983
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,300
I want the best player there.
Now Brian, you probably agree

984
00:57:44,300 --> 00:57:46,700
with that, but I think you were
going a little different

985
00:57:46,700 --> 00:57:50,500
direction, more schematically
when he came to White Bones of

986
00:57:50,500 --> 00:57:54,000
quarterback coach. yeah, I was
just looking at his

987
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,300
schematically, so the way I'm
seeing it, If you want to hire a

988
00:57:59,300 --> 00:58:01,200
quarterback, you want them to be
good.

989
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,100
At probably, one of two things
either need to be excellent at

990
00:58:04,100 --> 00:58:07,400
mechanics and technique.
They need to be an absolute stud

991
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,700
at knowing what a scheme expects
of their quarterback or it needs

992
00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:15,600
to be a combination of the two
Boeing checks that second box.

993
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:20,800
So tip to me that that's good.
We also between what the NCAA

994
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,900
rulings are changing and the
guys we already got on staff.

995
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:28,100
We got we got Crist out there
that can assist with some of the

996
00:58:28,100 --> 00:58:32,800
more finer points of quarterback
mechanics and Technique.

997
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,300
We also when we look at
positions that get a lot of work

998
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:41,100
in the offseason outside of the
coaching structure, the

999
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:46,000
quarterback is the one position
that gets third party folks

1000
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,000
coming And working with them
specifically on technique and

1001
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,700
things of that nature in the
offseason.

1002
00:58:51,700 --> 00:58:54,200
So you've got those things that
are already building towards

1003
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,600
that.
You're from a technique

1004
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:58,400
standpoint.
Tyler, Bowen knows what the

1005
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,300
quarterback supposed to be
within the offense.

1006
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,600
I can guarantee that.
So when you put those two things

1007
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,600
together to me, that means he'll
be effective.

1008
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,400
Now, obviously, I think some
people would want both in that

1009
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,100
package, right?
So the up, the optimal idea is

1010
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:17,600
that if you want to have a
quarterback in OC, Coach that

1011
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,500
they are very technical when it
comes to the quarterback

1012
00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:25,400
position and they know
schematically how the

1013
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,500
quarterback Works within that
structure and then call the

1014
00:59:27,508 --> 00:59:31,700
place, that's the optimal.
But I think given the situation

1015
00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:33,300
we were handed this late in the
cycle.

1016
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:35,800
I'm okay with this.
Now I'm not saying it's not

1017
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,600
risky, I think there is some
risk with moving a guy that has

1018
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,100
not coached the position into
this spot.

1019
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:44,000
But, you know, some of the
again, some of the comments

1020
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,300
thrown out with laughable and
things like that.

1021
00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:50,500
Like now, it's a calculated risk
even though it is a risk.

1022
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,900
And my other point is that some
people were talking about, well,

1023
00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:57,500
you know, you should have hired
a quarterbacks coach.

1024
00:59:57,500 --> 01:00:00,100
And I was like, well, if you
hire the quarterbacks coach, you

1025
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:04,100
probably don't get Brooks or
crook potentially, you know, you

1026
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:06,800
get you get someone else in
those spots and they were like

1027
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,400
well no you know you can you
know, you fire us to hope I'm

1028
01:00:10,408 --> 01:00:13,100
like so you want to?
So you're saying it's laughable

1029
01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:18,500
that we're moving. the o.c. into
the quarterback coach's role but

1030
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:22,100
it's not laughable that you're
going to fire someone that in

1031
01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:25,000
March that you decided in
December and January were

1032
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,900
rolling with I mean, that's
true.

1033
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:30,300
I mean if you if you want
something that's laughs was

1034
01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:34,200
laughable deciding in December
and January, he's your guy, but

1035
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,900
all of a sudden because two guys
put promotions, he's not your

1036
01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:40,300
guy to me that says, I don't
know what I'm doing a lot more

1037
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:42,100
than moving.
Your OC into the quarterback

1038
01:00:42,100 --> 01:00:44,200
coach's role.
Well, the other part mean, let's

1039
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,800
just jump right into it.
Still holds going back to tight

1040
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,300
ends and he's special team
coordinator.

1041
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,600
So if you fire him, you not only
have to fill this position roll.

1042
01:00:53,100 --> 01:00:56,300
You also have to find special
teams, coordinator and boy.

1043
01:00:56,300 --> 01:00:58,100
Yeah.
Who potential on the roster now.

1044
01:00:58,100 --> 01:01:00,700
So that would be a, you know,
between cheetah and crook.

1045
01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:03,000
You've got to that could
potentially take that role but

1046
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,000
you're still out of you still
out of position coach.

1047
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:06,400
Yeah.
But are you going to ask, you

1048
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,400
know, your quarterbacks coach
who has a pretty young room?

1049
01:01:09,500 --> 01:01:12,700
Hey, go take over special teams
or you're going to ask coach to

1050
01:01:12,700 --> 01:01:15,600
coach all line offensive,
offensive line and special teams

1051
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,200
like that.
Again, that's more laughable and

1052
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,100
now we're running back in tight
end or definitely the positions

1053
01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:23,200
you would prefer having your
special teams coordinator role

1054
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,600
because they are the least
demanding from a position.

1055
01:01:26,900 --> 01:01:29,000
Stay in point.
Yep.

1056
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,400
So I live, there's actually less
your head coach.

1057
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,100
Has it like we had with Frank?
So yeah.

1058
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:36,000
Well, but there's, there's only
so many to do that.

1059
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:38,000
Well, let's talk about, you
holding the tight end and tally

1060
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,300
already made his point about
Steve Holt, probably going into

1061
01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:44,500
the mountains of North Carolina
mountains of Virginia finding

1062
01:01:44,500 --> 01:01:47,700
him, some big kids, but my take,
what does his track record with

1063
01:01:47,700 --> 01:01:52,100
high-end look like as far as
recruiting, those yeah, I mean

1064
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:55,700
he's when you look at his
background I mean he's pretty

1065
01:01:55,700 --> 01:01:59,600
much split between being a
running backs coach and a tight

1066
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,800
ends coach and I do want to like
hit on one more thing just with

1067
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,200
the staff in general, like I
think what gets Lost in

1068
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:13,600
Translation a lot and it's just
like putting these coaches in a

1069
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,900
box where you know they have to
be, you know, this one

1070
01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:22,500
positional unit like like When
you listen to the staff talk

1071
01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:25,000
about, you know, the offensive
staff, they're all

1072
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,500
communicating, all the time.
They're always like, multiple

1073
01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:32,600
guys are helping out in certain
positions, like it doesn't fall

1074
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,500
under one guy to just do
everything.

1075
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:39,200
And I was just thinking about
this in terms of Bowen and I'll

1076
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,500
get to Holt in a little bit.
But like, Bowen, I was lucky

1077
01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:45,300
enough to go to the coaching
convention in Northern Virginia

1078
01:02:45,900 --> 01:02:48,800
where I was able to like, talk
with a bunch of the coaches,

1079
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,700
like really understand, like
what there?

1080
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:54,500
Shin is and without going too
much into depth of that.

1081
01:02:54,500 --> 01:02:59,600
Like, I was really impressed how
technical Crist was in terms of

1082
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,100
what he expects out of the
quarterback.

1083
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:04,400
Different schemes talking with
High School coaches in terms of

1084
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,700
what they're doing and being
able to relate to them, like how

1085
01:03:07,700 --> 01:03:11,700
you can change things around and
then additionally like Bowens

1086
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,900
knowledge of the entire offense.
Also impressed me because, you

1087
01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:18,600
know, you look at last year's
offense and you can say, okay,

1088
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,800
this is a train wreck like
nothing's.

1089
01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:23,500
Working.
But looking at it in a different

1090
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:27,700
way where you know if this one
block happens or if this is you

1091
01:03:27,700 --> 01:03:31,600
know the identity were having
here if this is the type of play

1092
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,700
we're running but we can't run
it because we don't have the

1093
01:03:33,700 --> 01:03:37,300
Personnel like those things.
Make a huge difference in terms

1094
01:03:37,300 --> 01:03:41,500
of the entire Outlook of the,
you know, the product of it.

1095
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:47,300
So I think like again, just
people hyper-focus into, you

1096
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:49,300
know, this guy didn't do it
before, he can't do it.

1097
01:03:49,300 --> 01:03:51,700
But you know, as an Sense of
coordinator.

1098
01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:53,000
He's working with all these
guys.

1099
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:58,600
He's flowing these ideas around
and then I guess for Holt, you

1100
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,200
know, obviously today he was
talking about having to Gallo

1101
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,200
having Benji, Daquan how excited
he was for him.

1102
01:04:07,100 --> 01:04:09,700
You know, I think he's going to
be a good fit and obviously has

1103
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:13,300
worked with bone quite a bit.
So I think it's an easy

1104
01:04:13,300 --> 01:04:16,000
transition.
I don't know how much you can

1105
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,100
expect out of the tight end
route to change, but I'm

1106
01:04:20,100 --> 01:04:21,400
excited.
Not The less.

1107
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,900
Well he smirked when he talked
about Daquan right?

1108
01:04:23,900 --> 01:04:25,800
He's smart.
Like maybe that was the most

1109
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:31,100
athletic type in he's ever and
tally, tell me about this day,

1110
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:34,000
only go back to the Special
Teams part because we were me

1111
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:38,500
and tally crunch.
Added a tally, you play tight

1112
01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:40,400
end.
How many special teams use did

1113
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,200
you play on?
Well, that's the tight end.

1114
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,000
I played on a lot of our special
teams unit.

1115
01:04:46,300 --> 01:04:48,900
I've been running backs.
You're running back so I don't

1116
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:50,600
like they're not going to play
on me.

1117
01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:55,000
Unless they're returning the
ball, you know, kick off, you

1118
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,600
may have running back back their
tight end.

1119
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:01,200
You're going to be up guy,
that's going to be a wedge

1120
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,400
stopper.
I mean stopping the wedge

1121
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,100
Buster.
So a lot of the tight ends are

1122
01:05:06,100 --> 01:05:08,600
probably going to be involved in
those special teams.

1123
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:14,200
So I think that helps but also,
you know, like Brian touched on

1124
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,000
a little earlier.
When you do bring a guy in like

1125
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,700
Crypt it's got a lot of
experience and guess what?

1126
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,700
He's coached special teams as
well.

1127
01:05:24,300 --> 01:05:26,900
So it's kind of all hands on
deck.

1128
01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:29,800
You know, I'm saying, I feel
like the coaches know what

1129
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,500
situation we're in.
They noted we can't afford to

1130
01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:38,000
have another year like last year
if this program wants to move

1131
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,200
up.
So I don't think that they're

1132
01:05:41,900 --> 01:05:44,700
relaxed.
You know, I think that they have

1133
01:05:44,700 --> 01:05:48,100
some intensity and I think that
we're going to, we're going to

1134
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,300
watch it.
And I think some people Be be

1135
01:05:52,300 --> 01:05:54,100
surprised.
I think we're going to have a

1136
01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:56,900
good year when I say Good Year.
I don't want to give predictions

1137
01:05:56,900 --> 01:06:00,700
yet but I 100% say it.
Last year we will not make a

1138
01:06:00,700 --> 01:06:03,100
bowl game.
It's going to be it's going to

1139
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:05,800
be a struggle this year.
I'm a little different like I

1140
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:09,700
feel like it's we got to get to
a bowl game and I feel like

1141
01:06:09,700 --> 01:06:12,600
we'll get there.
So I'm going to be watching, I'm

1142
01:06:12,607 --> 01:06:15,200
going to be at the spring game.
I'm gonna be looking for my boy

1143
01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:19,100
matej seeing how he seeing him
out there with the ladies.

1144
01:06:19,300 --> 01:06:23,200
Hope you ain't married.
Seagull you say yeah one more

1145
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,000
thing you want to hit on this
before we move on.

1146
01:06:25,300 --> 01:06:29,200
Yeah so my last point it just
looking back at the offense last

1147
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,600
year and kind of what's going on
with Boeing and everything on

1148
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,500
that side of the ball to me when
I looked at some of the parts of

1149
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:40,300
last year, it looked a little
bit square peg round hole

1150
01:06:40,300 --> 01:06:44,600
sometimes and it looked a little
bit too many cooks in the

1151
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,100
kitchen.
And I know that, you know, a guy

1152
01:06:47,100 --> 01:06:50,600
like Brad Glenn and a guy like
Joe Rudolph were brought in

1153
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,900
That's kind of somewhat
backstops for a first-time

1154
01:06:55,900 --> 01:07:00,700
power, 50c and Tyler Bowen, but
I feel like it at some points in

1155
01:07:00,700 --> 01:07:04,500
the season.
It was a little bit too much of

1156
01:07:04,500 --> 01:07:08,000
a lot of ideas that were out
there, but not necessarily a

1157
01:07:08,008 --> 01:07:13,700
cohesive plan from top to bottom
from, you know, kickoff to the

1158
01:07:13,707 --> 01:07:17,100
final whistle.
I think with having bow and

1159
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:21,700
moving to the quarterback role
and also having What looks like

1160
01:07:21,700 --> 01:07:24,500
a full control over.
What?

1161
01:07:24,500 --> 01:07:28,800
This offense is going to look
like top to bottom, and it's

1162
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:32,300
going to be shaped in his vision
through this whole process.

1163
01:07:32,300 --> 01:07:36,300
I think that's going to give us
a better idea of what this

1164
01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:38,300
offense is capable of and it'll
help us.

1165
01:07:38,300 --> 01:07:42,300
I think evaluate, you know what
these coaches are capable of

1166
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:44,000
this year, a lot better,
especially now that we've got

1167
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,000
some talent to go in that on
that side of the ball as well,

1168
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,700
where we can really kind of say
okay well this is what's

1169
01:07:49,700 --> 01:07:53,100
working.
If this is what's not, we know

1170
01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:55,700
we have the talent now to
execute these things.

1171
01:07:55,700 --> 01:07:58,100
It's so if things aren't
happening, we can at least know

1172
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:00,800
what we're working with a little
bit better than that last year.

1173
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,300
Where there were times where
sometimes it's like the product

1174
01:08:04,300 --> 01:08:06,200
was so bad.
I couldn't could really

1175
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,000
evaluate.
All right.

1176
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,100
Is this is this a player issue?
Is this a coach issue?

1177
01:08:10,100 --> 01:08:13,000
As a scheme issue?
Sometimes it was just so ugly.

1178
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,900
It was hard to really
differentiate.

1179
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,300
Absolutely good points, guys.
Good points, everybody on all

1180
01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:20,700
this stuff, but let's get into
it.

1181
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,399
It.
Let's talk about the 2024 cycle

1182
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:27,600
here that's why we brought Mateo
on the take.

1183
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,700
Thank you for all the insights
from going to the convention

1184
01:08:30,700 --> 01:08:33,000
last week in Northern Virginia
your insights on some of the

1185
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,100
guys they recruited, that's
really helpful.

1186
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:37,800
Getting to where we are now.
But let's start with this one

1187
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,600
out the gate, I had to look at
the top 20 today.

1188
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,600
First of all, y'all changed it
from last week I did some

1189
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,300
updates because my numbers
changed.

1190
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:50,600
So top 20, looks as follows.
We got six in the greater our VA

1191
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:55,600
I got five from the 7575 from
Nova to from the Eastern Shore,

1192
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,899
both those guys top 10 with
yall's to from Southwest

1193
01:08:59,899 --> 01:09:03,200
Virginia.
So there is Talent all

1194
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,100
throughout the state this year
in the top 20, you go to any

1195
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:09,200
reason you can find highly rated
guy.

1196
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:15,000
With that being said, with this
staffs effort, in that Statewide

1197
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,899
assault, from the second, they
leave feet on the ground.

1198
01:09:17,899 --> 01:09:20,700
Last December, you think it's
going to take peyote?

1199
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,500
A off with this type of spread
this year, I do think so.

1200
01:09:24,500 --> 01:09:28,500
And I think they've done like
obviously, we can go back to the

1201
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:31,899
last regime under Puente and say
like, you know, they're visiting

1202
01:09:31,899 --> 01:09:34,100
high schools, maybe once every
couple months.

1203
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:38,200
Like these guys are persistent,
when it comes to keeping in

1204
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:41,000
contact, making those inroads,
like, I talked about the

1205
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,899
coaching convention and I was
talking to a lot of the coaches,

1206
01:09:43,899 --> 01:09:47,100
and they were just saying, you
know, we're so happy that

1207
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:48,700
Virginia Tech is back in this
area.

1208
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,600
I was lucky enough to go to the
Nova one.

1209
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,700
You know, Evan, a dog on our
site were able to go to the

1210
01:09:55,700 --> 01:09:58,200
Richmond one.
Unfortunately, they didn't do

1211
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:02,300
one in the 757 this year, but,
you know, the feedback from the

1212
01:10:02,300 --> 01:10:05,700
coaches was completely
different, like the connections

1213
01:10:05,700 --> 01:10:08,100
made everything.
Like they're, they're making

1214
01:10:08,100 --> 01:10:10,600
inroads for the future, their
brutally honest.

1215
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,400
You know, they didn't just do
these conventions and I know

1216
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,100
there's a lot more that goes
into it, but they want to help

1217
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:21,000
out these high schools to
cultivate talent for many Years

1218
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,600
to come help them with their
schemes, help them with, you

1219
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,500
know, the problems are having
using their insight as

1220
01:10:26,500 --> 01:10:30,000
Collegiate coaches to help them
out.

1221
01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:33,200
And I think it's paying huge
dividends because, you know, in

1222
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,700
recruiting it's oftentimes
viewed as a one-way Street.

1223
01:10:36,700 --> 01:10:39,800
Like, who's your top guy?
Like send them here.

1224
01:10:40,300 --> 01:10:43,300
This is what we can do for him,
but it's never the other way

1225
01:10:43,300 --> 01:10:45,600
around.
And so I've been really

1226
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,600
impressed with how they're
relating to these coaches.

1227
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,900
The fact that they're seeing
them every couple Weeks staying

1228
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:55,200
in contact with and you can see
it from the recruits.

1229
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,800
Like anytime we write a write
up, like, the amount just like

1230
01:10:59,300 --> 01:11:02,500
human connection between these
coaches and the recruits are

1231
01:11:02,500 --> 01:11:04,300
paying off.
Now, I'm not going to say

1232
01:11:04,300 --> 01:11:07,900
they're going to come out here
and completely take every single

1233
01:11:07,900 --> 01:11:11,400
guy from the top 20.
But, you know, in the long run

1234
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,600
it there, it's paying dividends.
Like they have people welcoming

1235
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,600
them into their high schools,
and they're making those

1236
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,600
connections, and that's what's
important in.

1237
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:23,700
The grand scheme of things.
Yeah, I love what you're saying

1238
01:11:23,700 --> 01:11:26,500
about those relationships and
how the two way street is

1239
01:11:26,500 --> 01:11:28,100
working there.
Because I think that a lot of

1240
01:11:28,108 --> 01:11:30,800
people talk about that, as much,
you know, relationships is not

1241
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:32,600
just about showing up in face
time.

1242
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,900
It's about, you know, working
together to help each other kind

1243
01:11:36,900 --> 01:11:38,700
of build each other's programs
there.

1244
01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:42,400
And I think that that success is
going to build both directions

1245
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:43,400
there.
So that's important.

1246
01:11:43,700 --> 01:11:45,800
Let's talk about the RV.
Amy encouraged to the stomping

1247
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:49,900
grounds here.
Six of the top 20 are in the RV

1248
01:11:49,900 --> 01:11:52,500
a area.
You know, we had fontelle back

1249
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:55,200
on, he's kind of started to put
up a wall a little bit in the 80

1250
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,700
for which we like to see.
So we've had some success the

1251
01:11:57,700 --> 01:12:00,700
last couple Cycles here.
Do you think we can land at

1252
01:12:00,700 --> 01:12:04,200
least two of those are VA
recruits that are in the top 20?

1253
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,300
Yeah absolutely.
I mean Reiner's a guy that you

1254
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:10,700
know we've already put out a
crystal ball, he is a good

1255
01:12:10,700 --> 01:12:14,700
connection with Cam Fleming, you
know, just really good defensive

1256
01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:16,900
back.
Noah Jennings is another guy

1257
01:12:16,900 --> 01:12:18,600
that we just put out a crystal
ball four.

1258
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:24,000
So there's already two You're
talking about guys.

1259
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:28,800
Like Chris Cole Lamar Miller is
visiting this weekend, I believe

1260
01:12:29,300 --> 01:12:32,600
Eric Smith is another one.
Like there's a ton of talent in

1261
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:37,200
Richmond van tell, you know, he
was, he was the guy for the

1262
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,800
staff in terms of recruiting
last year like the amount of

1263
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:44,000
success that he had.
And it's not just like picking

1264
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,800
out these guys to, you know, try
to influence future Cycles.

1265
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,700
It's like these are legitimate
Playmakers in.

1266
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,900
Men that they're able to quickly
bridge that Gap and get them

1267
01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:58,700
onto campus, get them, you know,
to represent their in-state

1268
01:12:58,700 --> 01:13:01,900
school.
So absolute like I Richmond's

1269
01:13:01,900 --> 01:13:05,300
always going to be one of those
big areas for Virginia Tech and

1270
01:13:05,300 --> 01:13:07,900
you know, their ceiling goes as
high as Richmond.

1271
01:13:08,300 --> 01:13:12,000
And you know, I really think
it's important every cycle but

1272
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,700
this Cycles, another great year
for Richmond.

1273
01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:19,300
And I think they'll at yeah, at
the very minimum to I'm

1274
01:13:19,300 --> 01:13:22,900
expecting, like 4250 Beyond.
Okay.

1275
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:27,600
Stated his wife.
I like that.

1276
01:13:28,100 --> 01:13:29,700
Yeah, I'ma tell you, he's got,
he's getting us.

1277
01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:32,800
Getting us a little too excited.
Now, I got to be a, I got to be

1278
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:38,600
a Debbie Downer and kind of go
with the next Point here Metate.

1279
01:13:38,900 --> 01:13:43,400
So last cycle, the Hokies guys,
zero seven, five seven kids.

1280
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,800
I know the staff has been
rebuilding.

1281
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,800
Those bridges and, you know,
trying to break back into that

1282
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,400
Tidewater area.
You how you how you think we

1283
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:56,500
feeling how you think we looking
in that area for this year?

1284
01:13:57,500 --> 01:14:01,000
Yeah I mean it's definitely been
an interesting area.

1285
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,800
It hasn't been as easy as
Richmond Nova.

1286
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:09,100
You know it's definitely going
to take some time there but I

1287
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:12,400
think especially this cycle like
you look last year.

1288
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,300
A lot of those guys were
predetermined like you're

1289
01:14:15,300 --> 01:14:20,500
talking pen say you know, Notre
Dame like they're already going.

1290
01:14:20,700 --> 01:14:24,500
These schools and Virginia Tech
is like showing up at the door.

1291
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:28,400
Like we're still here to build
these connections but we can't

1292
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,700
build the connections with the
current crop of crew of recruits

1293
01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:36,100
and I felt like 757 especially
last year was heavily inflated

1294
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,800
towards the top.
This year feels, you know, there

1295
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:42,700
is a lot of high-end talent but
overall I think it's a lot

1296
01:14:42,700 --> 01:14:44,700
higher.
Like there's a lot more recruits

1297
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,400
that are do unworthy from the 75
and you know, like a guy like

1298
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,200
healin Adams.
Would have never even picked up

1299
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,700
the phone when Virginia Tech,
call it a couple years ago,

1300
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,700
right?
And you know, he's one of those

1301
01:14:57,700 --> 01:14:59,700
guys that they brought onto
campus.

1302
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,000
They have one black Jersey that
they're willing to give out and

1303
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,100
have recruits try on.
He's the guy that, you know,

1304
01:15:06,300 --> 01:15:09,700
they made the exception for like
they're put, whether it's you

1305
01:15:09,700 --> 01:15:13,000
know something as silly as that.
There's miners that like they're

1306
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,700
pulling out those types of stops
for him and I think it is going

1307
01:15:16,700 --> 01:15:19,400
a long way, you know, he's in
constant communication with

1308
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:23,800
Virginia Tech, I'm not He's
basically every program in the

1309
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:28,100
country wants this guy but he's
building that connection.

1310
01:15:28,100 --> 01:15:32,300
Now he's coming back to campus
on a consistent basis so you

1311
01:15:32,300 --> 01:15:35,700
never know and then you have
other guys like Assad, Brown

1312
01:15:35,700 --> 01:15:40,000
lockdown cornerback like he's
super high on Virginia Tech.

1313
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:42,100
I thought he was going to shut
down his commitment early.

1314
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:43,500
That's how much he liked
cheetah.

1315
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,100
He's a guy that you know,
Virginia Tech desperately needs

1316
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:50,500
to build around and you know,
kind of elevate his profile.

1317
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:53,200
On the college level and show
that to everyone else in the

1318
01:15:53,208 --> 01:15:55,900
757.
Like you need a more recent

1319
01:15:55,900 --> 01:16:00,000
example of a guy that can really
shine on the college stage and

1320
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,500
you know, Assad Brown.
I'm excited for him.

1321
01:16:02,900 --> 01:16:06,700
Yeah, I want to, I want to hit
on a couple of or something, a

1322
01:16:06,700 --> 01:16:10,700
little different Off Script here
because you brought it up, you

1323
01:16:10,700 --> 01:16:14,100
talked about the uniforms, you
talked about having the one

1324
01:16:14,100 --> 01:16:17,500
black uniform I know that you I
mean, you're the recruiting guy.

1325
01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:20,900
That's why we got you here, how?
And we are you Time.

1326
01:16:20,900 --> 01:16:28,300
I'm orange guy.
How excited are the kids about

1327
01:16:28,300 --> 01:16:32,600
the uniforms and the different
colors whenever they're on

1328
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,400
recruiting trips?
Yeah, I mean, they're very

1329
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,300
excited.
I'll say to like the production

1330
01:16:38,300 --> 01:16:42,000
team like the media team,
especially obviously it helps

1331
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,800
getting, you know, additional
staff, but way they do photo

1332
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:48,500
shoots away, they bring kids
into the locker room.

1333
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,500
The amount of gear they have
Like how everything is set up so

1334
01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:56,700
well it's definitely made a huge
impact so you know obviously

1335
01:16:56,700 --> 01:17:00,200
recruits love that stuff and
like you know, I wish they did

1336
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,400
have a couple of more black
jerseys, maybe they're just

1337
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:07,300
saying that and they're hiding
the rest in the back but it's a

1338
01:17:07,300 --> 01:17:08,700
big impact.
I like it.

1339
01:17:08,900 --> 01:17:12,500
The contract is up soon so we
married the some fresh ones

1340
01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:15,300
coming out of here.
Soon, I'll say this, the Jersey

1341
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:19,200
they never wore after 2010, that
they should have the Boise State

1342
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:22,900
Jersey.
That wasn't we lost that game

1343
01:17:22,900 --> 01:17:26,800
with that was a sick Jersey that
they never pulled out again, and

1344
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:32,800
it's like, wow, you know, they
did so much in the 2010s with

1345
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,300
some combinations.
And some were good, some were.

1346
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,700
Yeah, but that was like, such a
good jersey in the net, like, we

1347
01:17:39,700 --> 01:17:41,300
lost the game.
Like, who cares?

1348
01:17:41,300 --> 01:17:42,900
We've lost another colors
before?

1349
01:17:42,900 --> 01:17:45,900
Bring them back, that's a whole
another, that's a whole nother

1350
01:17:45,900 --> 01:17:46,900
episode.
It is.

1351
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,500
All right.
So let me let me Pivot to this

1352
01:17:51,700 --> 01:17:53,800
it's good to hear the stuff with
the 757.

1353
01:17:54,300 --> 01:17:56,700
I got the sheet up here I looked
up Keelan.

1354
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,400
Holy crap is that?
I mean literally everybody in

1355
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:01,300
the country is offering we need
him.

1356
01:18:01,300 --> 01:18:04,500
She's in y'all's top hundred
y'all have him rated as a

1357
01:18:04,508 --> 01:18:07,800
four-star.
Now let me talk about this and

1358
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:12,700
talking about Virginia still
last year 2023 huge cycle to

1359
01:18:12,700 --> 01:18:17,700
start that re bridging process.
12 players but let's be

1360
01:18:17,700 --> 01:18:21,300
realistic.
The highest-rated was Over 18,

1361
01:18:21,300 --> 01:18:25,000
Caleb Woodson who I know Brian's
really high on.

1362
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:28,000
Because he thinks the way he
built that outside linebacker

1363
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:31,600
spot tally, hound and to, he
could probably come in and maybe

1364
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,800
by next year be pushing for it.
But can the Hokies take the

1365
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:37,600
stuff on this Trail?
It's great.

1366
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:41,900
They got that many players.
And can they get a few top-10

1367
01:18:41,900 --> 01:18:44,500
prospects and you've already
mentioned to their high on.

1368
01:18:44,700 --> 01:18:47,700
But are there any other guys in
that top 10 besides the sod and

1369
01:18:47,700 --> 01:18:50,100
killing that, they definitely
have a legit shot at?

1370
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,900
And Could be in Blacksburg this
time next year.

1371
01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:55,700
Yeah.
I mean I know van tells working

1372
01:18:55,700 --> 01:19:00,300
on Chan's Wiggins.
He's a guy that you know

1373
01:19:00,300 --> 01:19:02,000
obviously I think he's a
four-star.

1374
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:05,800
Yes.
Mase Mason ways another yeah

1375
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,100
Mason Wade.
I think just crack the top. 10

1376
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,400
is kind of moving up.
He's an absolute gym rat.

1377
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,600
He looks the gym like three
times a day.

1378
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,200
I think he's listed at like 280
last season, he was playing at

1379
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:22,200
like 305 and then came back.
Up down but he's he's just a

1380
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,400
warrior.
Like, he's unbelievable.

1381
01:19:25,900 --> 01:19:31,300
And then, you know, DJ Tolliver
Crooks is on him now because

1382
01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:36,300
Shaun Henderson is another guy
shouted.

1383
01:19:36,300 --> 01:19:43,200
Wi-Fi Victory, Life And then I
think, you know, one sleeper,

1384
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,300
they'll throw in there.
I think is Josh Clark, who's in

1385
01:19:46,300 --> 01:19:49,500
Nova?
He's a DB, I know, Derek Jones

1386
01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:52,400
is high on him.
He's a guy that I think could

1387
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,500
really Elevate as this process
moves along, I would expect him

1388
01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:59,600
to be a four star and I think
Virginia Tech's.

1389
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,500
It's really well with him right
now.

1390
01:20:02,300 --> 01:20:06,400
So, there are numerous guys,
like, last year, I looked at the

1391
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:10,100
top ten, I was like, there's no
shot like I want to give Give

1392
01:20:10,100 --> 01:20:12,300
people good news.
I want to say like, yeah, maybe

1393
01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:15,800
there's a possibility, like,
some of these Penn State guys

1394
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:19,800
with the pride connection, but
there was absolutely no chance.

1395
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,400
I think this year, there's a
chance like realistic shot.

1396
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:26,200
At least three.
Okay, Italy?

1397
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:27,900
Howry?
Oh, wow.

1398
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:33,500
I mean, we're happy right?
And I slowly right now we were

1399
01:20:33,500 --> 01:20:38,600
talking earlier, so I'm glad I'm
glad to hear it.

1400
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:43,000
I think he's phenomenal.
Yeah, but I'm glad you gave us a

1401
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,900
little insight on him because we
were kind of talking a little

1402
01:20:45,900 --> 01:20:48,200
bit earlier about how he was,
kind of all over the board a

1403
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,400
little bit.
I think, you know, kind of rated

1404
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,200
different with some different
entities out there.

1405
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:57,900
But to hear you talk about him.
And I mean, to say what you

1406
01:20:57,900 --> 01:21:00,800
said, because we've me and Brian
was kind of talking, you know,

1407
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,700
of offensive line that's the
hardest to judge for high

1408
01:21:04,700 --> 01:21:08,000
school.
So to hear you say he's a gym

1409
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:09,900
rat like he's putting in that
work.

1410
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:11,800
Work.
And that's where it starts with

1411
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,800
what alignment because you know
once you get to College the main

1412
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:20,200
thing that's different is you're
not blocking 150 pound lineman

1413
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:24,700
anymore, he's not blocking
200-pound defensive lineman, you

1414
01:21:24,700 --> 01:21:30,200
know, you're starting to get
into the 250 and 300 so that

1415
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,200
that I think that translate well
for him and I hope we hope we go

1416
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,600
out and grab him.
Yeah.

1417
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,900
We talked about that a lot.
We're like, you know, it's hard

1418
01:21:36,900 --> 01:21:39,900
to recruit because of the
variations in skin.

1419
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,000
Oh, level and things like that.
Where is skilled positions?

1420
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:47,500
Athleticism can always scale up.
But when you look at, okay,

1421
01:21:47,500 --> 01:21:50,300
well, this guy's pushing this
guy around but can then scale up

1422
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,600
its hard to really judge that
especially when you look at the

1423
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,800
talent level.
So that's why you always see

1424
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,600
with offensive lineman.
If you work in recruit sighs,

1425
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,000
you'll at least know at worst.
You're going to have a good

1426
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,900
scout team body.
So if you can get a guy that's

1427
01:22:04,900 --> 01:22:08,200
that kind of that ready you're
at least raising the bar of

1428
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,800
where you're at and then you
kind of can go up.

1429
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,000
From there.
And hopefully you know with

1430
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,000
crook coming on board, we can
get these kids develop and

1431
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:18,200
hopefully we find some guys that
are able to kind of contribute

1432
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,900
for us right away because we
need it, we're thin especially

1433
01:22:20,900 --> 01:22:30,200
at the The Tackle position, you
know, looking long-term so Let's

1434
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:32,400
see, and I'll kind of go ahead
and pivot pivot off of Curtis

1435
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:35,400
here.
Let's see how well position are

1436
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,100
the Hokies to kind of take that
next step, both organizationally

1437
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:42,500
and kind of with how they stand
with the players of getting some

1438
01:22:42,500 --> 01:22:45,900
more of those top 10 caliber
players in the boat.

1439
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,700
Yeah, definitely, I think the
conversations this year, I've

1440
01:22:49,700 --> 01:22:54,700
elevated quite a bit like, being
able to go in on these guys.

1441
01:22:54,700 --> 01:22:58,400
Not just like this cycle.
But last year, that makes a huge

1442
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,800
difference.
Like, But you're a girl.

1443
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,600
You're talking about these top
10 guys, whether it's Virginia,

1444
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:09,800
North Carolina, South Carolina,
like unable to really start that

1445
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,800
relationship.
And now you're talking about

1446
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:15,100
multiple year relationships with
these guys and I think, you

1447
01:23:15,108 --> 01:23:19,100
know, with how big the staff is,
how good, the recruiting staff

1448
01:23:19,100 --> 01:23:25,000
is, and then having proven
Recruiters on on the staff and

1449
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:30,600
getting more guys, in I think
their position pretty Well like

1450
01:23:30,700 --> 01:23:33,800
obviously it's a huge leap from
last year to this year to even

1451
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:38,000
be in consideration for you
know, five top 10 guys.

1452
01:23:38,500 --> 01:23:43,300
I know I named a few earlier but
I think they still have to make

1453
01:23:43,300 --> 01:23:46,100
that next step and really earn
those commitments.

1454
01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:49,800
Like there's a lot of guys that
are very high on Virginia Tech

1455
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:53,300
and I think could have shut down
their commitments already.

1456
01:23:53,900 --> 01:23:56,000
So just seeing that closeout
phase.

1457
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:59,300
I think is, is really what I'm
eager to see next.

1458
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:04,300
I know you've hit on a couple of
different, kind of states and

1459
01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:08,300
places that we've been in places
that we're doing moving forward,

1460
01:24:08,300 --> 01:24:11,600
but I just wanted to kind of go
back to that mistake last year.

1461
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,100
Tennessee was a state that we
hit pretty hard.

1462
01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:16,900
We got a lot of talent out of
that state.

1463
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:21,000
When you talk about that, Aiden
green and chants chants

1464
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,900
Fitzgerald and a couple other
guys there that we were we were

1465
01:24:24,900 --> 01:24:28,300
able to pull in.
Do you foresee that continuing

1466
01:24:28,300 --> 01:24:32,300
or do you see us Maybe, you
know, pick it up, another state

1467
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,600
and getting Talent out like we
did out of Tennessee.

1468
01:24:35,500 --> 01:24:38,800
Yeah, I think, you know, in a
lot of ways last year.

1469
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,100
What happened in Tennessee?
Like Sean Quinn deserves, a lot

1470
01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:45,900
of credit there has made a lot
of inroads there and he's just

1471
01:24:45,900 --> 01:24:49,200
great all-around.
Great guy to be a representative

1472
01:24:49,300 --> 01:24:53,000
of Virginia Tech, but I think
like a lot of those battles were

1473
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:54,900
towards the end of the
recruiting cycle.

1474
01:24:54,900 --> 01:24:57,800
Picking up guys based on
connections, like knowing High

1475
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,500
School coaches in the areas
kind.

1476
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,800
Of knowing the Situation's of
the players, whether, you know,

1477
01:25:04,100 --> 01:25:07,300
you know, they weren't a fit at
one school at the recruitment

1478
01:25:07,300 --> 01:25:11,000
open backed up.
But guys, like eating green was,

1479
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,600
you know, came late in the
cycle.

1480
01:25:12,700 --> 01:25:16,300
Most Phillips was another one
that they were on for a while,

1481
01:25:16,300 --> 01:25:19,000
but took a long time I think
there's going to be other

1482
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:21,200
territories.
I don't expect the same type of

1483
01:25:21,208 --> 01:25:24,500
success like they're still going
to recruit Tennessee but you

1484
01:25:24,500 --> 01:25:29,600
know, Ohio North Carolina
obviously Marilyn now or We're

1485
01:25:29,608 --> 01:25:33,600
kind of the big ones in terms of
that estate, what about North

1486
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:38,700
Carolina, where are we hitting?
Because I mean, it's right

1487
01:25:38,700 --> 01:25:41,700
there.
You know what, the area, what

1488
01:25:41,700 --> 01:25:44,500
areas are we going to be hitting
in North Carolina this year?

1489
01:25:44,500 --> 01:25:48,800
Because you've got really to me,
you've got three, you've got the

1490
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,100
triangle, the Triad and
Charlotte.

1491
01:25:54,300 --> 01:25:58,500
Yeah, so I think the staff is
taking a huge emphasis on

1492
01:25:58,500 --> 01:26:00,600
Charlotte itself.
Like obviously there's been an

1493
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:04,300
emergency with Charlotte
Christian Charlotte Catholic.

1494
01:26:04,300 --> 01:26:08,200
There's Providence day there,
there's been a lot of you know,

1495
01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:12,400
even before this staff a lot of
inroads in Greensboro

1496
01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,400
salisbury's and other
up-and-coming area right

1497
01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:18,500
outside.
You know they're sitting well

1498
01:26:18,500 --> 01:26:24,300
right now with three star Edge.
Derek Dandy, he's a guy that's,

1499
01:26:24,300 --> 01:26:27,300
you know, we put out a crystal
ball for really likes.

1500
01:26:27,300 --> 01:26:29,500
Virginia Tech has been on campus
a few times.

1501
01:26:29,500 --> 01:26:31,900
I think he's going to visit are
coming up.

1502
01:26:32,900 --> 01:26:36,600
James Nest has another guy.
He's an inside linebacker High

1503
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,600
three-star.
He's visiting actually on

1504
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:43,800
Thursday and then they have some
other guys, deuce deuce Walker,

1505
01:26:43,900 --> 01:26:45,700
another high Three Star
Quarterback.

1506
01:26:46,700 --> 01:26:52,000
Employer, who's a 68 offensive
lineman lose our virginity.

1507
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:56,500
Back and then obviously cheat
has been recruiting Brody

1508
01:26:56,700 --> 01:27:01,000
Barnhart, who's a safety.
So there I mean there's just a

1509
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:05,000
ton of talent in North Carolina
and Charlotte.

1510
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:09,300
Specifically is a major
footprint, I think Virginia Tech

1511
01:27:09,300 --> 01:27:12,300
like when you're talking about
where most kids are going to

1512
01:27:12,300 --> 01:27:15,700
come from, I think they're
looking to add, you know as many

1513
01:27:15,700 --> 01:27:17,800
as they can out of Charlotte.
Yeah.

1514
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,800
When we look at Charlotte, I
mean Charlotte's an area.

1515
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:23,300
I think you know people have
talked about it For, you know,

1516
01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:25,600
there's more Hokies of the
Charlotte area than there are

1517
01:27:25,700 --> 01:27:31,500
UNC and NC State grads.
So it's a very hokey Rich area

1518
01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:35,700
that already has some of that
kind of mindset as these kids

1519
01:27:35,700 --> 01:27:36,800
are kind of coming through
school.

1520
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:41,400
So that's kind of I think a big
very good jumping off spot for

1521
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,200
what they're trying to do in
Carolina for sure.

1522
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,100
I'll tell you something else.
You know, you started to mention

1523
01:27:47,100 --> 01:27:48,900
the names and I've got the pages
up.

1524
01:27:48,900 --> 01:27:53,600
I'm honored you're mentioning
three Guys, they would Dandy

1525
01:27:53,700 --> 01:27:57,300
Nesta and their three top 20
players in the state.

1526
01:27:57,300 --> 01:28:00,700
And it's not like, we're getting
into the 30s and the 40s where

1527
01:28:00,700 --> 01:28:04,000
we're scraping the barrel.
We're talking about legit three

1528
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:10,100
top guys in the top. 20 in.
Yeah, that says a lot to me

1529
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:13,700
because it's like you know,
Callie you jumped out making the

1530
01:28:13,708 --> 01:28:17,100
point we went to Tennessee.
We found chance Fitzgerald, that

1531
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:19,400
might have been the best,
recruiting story all year,

1532
01:28:19,900 --> 01:28:23,200
right?
Because mattei, if people are

1533
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,500
familiar, tell them what
happened because we weren't

1534
01:28:25,500 --> 01:28:28,700
exactly in fight with little
dogs to get that guys to come to

1535
01:28:28,700 --> 01:28:31,400
Tech.
Now, there is a lot of big guys

1536
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:33,200
on him.
I know Michigan Works.

1537
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,800
The very end was, you know, they
were really high on him.

1538
01:28:37,300 --> 01:28:44,000
And, you know, luckily the staff
sold a lot of, you know, that he

1539
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:50,700
well I'll say this, he there was
a lot of good conversations.

1540
01:28:50,900 --> 01:28:53,700
Going for the Hokies.
And I think that you know,

1541
01:28:53,700 --> 01:28:58,200
ultimately the relationship with
his parents were the most

1542
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:02,300
realistic out of the top schools
that were recruiting him.

1543
01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:05,700
But he's a phenomenal player
phenomenal wide receiver

1544
01:29:06,700 --> 01:29:10,800
obviously came on late towards
the end of the cycle but I think

1545
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:14,600
the Persistence of the staff and
showing how much they cared

1546
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,800
about him.
I know some of the other schools

1547
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,800
were in on him.
But overall, yeah, I would say.

1548
01:29:20,900 --> 01:29:23,600
Say that Virginia Tech just
really stayed on him in the end

1549
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:24,800
and that was the difference in
it.

1550
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,600
They didn't quit which says a
lot about this stuff in the way

1551
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,300
they recruit compared to Prior
years.

1552
01:29:31,900 --> 01:29:33,200
All right.
I won't go tally.

1553
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,500
Hearing be a little, Debbie
Downer - Nancy.

1554
01:29:36,700 --> 01:29:42,200
Alright, so in the last few
Cycles, in the states of Georgia

1555
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:45,500
and Florida, two of the biggest
football states in the country,

1556
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:53,200
we've only had four recruits To
or holdovers to are offered by

1557
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:57,100
this staff, these are two
Talent, Rich date and the

1558
01:29:57,100 --> 01:29:59,800
northern part of Georgia down
into Atlanta.

1559
01:29:59,900 --> 01:30:02,800
That's in the footprint that
Brent track continues to preach

1560
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,400
about.
Why haven't we seen as much

1561
01:30:06,500 --> 01:30:09,600
action in those two states?
Because I feel like us as hokey

1562
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:12,300
fans, I mean, we just start
throwing out names.

1563
01:30:12,300 --> 01:30:15,600
You think Brandon Flowers, you
think Isaiah Ford?

1564
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:18,700
There's always Talent.
There's some, obviously, some

1565
01:30:18,700 --> 01:30:22,100
guys from George, I'm missing,
but why haven't we hit it that

1566
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:24,000
hard?
Yeah.

1567
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,700
I mean it's a great question.
You know, it's one that in terms

1568
01:30:27,700 --> 01:30:31,700
of you know, these massive
territories that Virginia Tech

1569
01:30:31,700 --> 01:30:37,000
is after you know, whether it's
you know, Brad Glenn was a big

1570
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,800
connection last year in terms of
Georgia.

1571
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:44,700
Obviously, Tyler Bowen has some
ties to Florida but you know for

1572
01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:47,200
whatever reason it just didn't
work out.

1573
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,800
Last cycle in Georgia.
I know they're evaluating a lot

1574
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:55,000
of guys and then Florida like
You know you're talking about

1575
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:59,300
like Mario Kendricks norell
Pollard, like guys on the roster

1576
01:30:59,300 --> 01:31:04,000
right now that like our fan
favorites and I think like, you

1577
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:07,100
know, kind of getting back to
those roots is important.

1578
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,200
I'm still trying to figure out
like obviously with the two new

1579
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:14,700
guys like they're going to be
shifting, kind of the recruiting

1580
01:31:14,700 --> 01:31:16,200
region.
So I'm still trying to figure

1581
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,500
out, like who exactly is in
charge of Georgia, who's in

1582
01:31:19,500 --> 01:31:21,600
charge of certain parts of
Florida.

1583
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,900
So, I Still think it's very much
a work in progress.

1584
01:31:25,900 --> 01:31:28,700
And, you know, a lot of the
other areas we've talked about

1585
01:31:28,700 --> 01:31:31,100
have kind of been established
among the staff.

1586
01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,600
So I still think they're
building those in roads and

1587
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:36,900
maybe it'll take time, but I'm
with you.

1588
01:31:36,900 --> 01:31:39,800
Like, ballplayers.
Just come from those States and

1589
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:42,100
got to find a way.
Like, even if you're talking

1590
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:45,600
about, you know, a guy rated in
the 60s in Georgia, he's

1591
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:50,000
probably comparable to top 20
guy in Virginia, you know, like,

1592
01:31:50,300 --> 01:31:52,700
there's just so much competition
in those States.

1593
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,900
So, You know, hopefully as
things progress, they're able to

1594
01:31:56,900 --> 01:31:59,500
Lance more Talent from there.
Yeah, look at it.

1595
01:31:59,500 --> 01:32:01,800
You've got a bunch of golfers
that are out there, but we

1596
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:05,600
haven't seen necessarily a whole
lot of positive traction at a

1597
01:32:05,608 --> 01:32:08,600
Georgia and Florida, so far this
cycle and we haven't really

1598
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:12,800
tapped into those Delray Beach
and Duval connections that we've

1599
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:17,100
seen previous staffs, pull from
both go, you know, going back

1600
01:32:17,100 --> 01:32:20,300
even to Beamer days.
What is you think as a

1601
01:32:20,300 --> 01:32:24,200
reasonable amount of commits to
kind of expect From those two

1602
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:28,000
states this cycle, is it still
kind of in that 122 range or are

1603
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,700
we looking to maybe take a
little bit of a bump up?

1604
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,200
You know, I wouldn't be
surprised if it's more than that

1605
01:32:34,300 --> 01:32:37,600
obviously like still a lot of
evaluation still trying to bring

1606
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,400
guys on campus.
You know, I think you know the

1607
01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:44,900
name that jumps out to me the
most in terms of Florida, is it

1608
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,800
maybe Belfort is a guy that's
super high.

1609
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:52,700
He named Virginia Tech and his
top three I think with Texas A&M

1610
01:32:52,700 --> 01:32:54,900
and Michigan.
State if I'm remembering

1611
01:32:54,900 --> 01:32:59,300
correctly, he's a guy that I'm
looking at as they you know,

1612
01:32:59,300 --> 01:33:03,200
that's Bowens guy right there
seeing if they're able to land

1613
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,600
him.
So if they are, you know, that's

1614
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:07,900
one off the bat.
But in terms of some of the

1615
01:33:07,900 --> 01:33:11,600
other names you know still
waiting to see what comes out of

1616
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,500
there.
Like just having heard a lot of

1617
01:33:14,500 --> 01:33:17,200
concrete info in terms of
recruits just yet.

1618
01:33:20,700 --> 01:33:22,500
Yeah.
And it and it makes sense.

1619
01:33:22,500 --> 01:33:25,100
It's early in the cycle.
How do they get the guys up?

1620
01:33:25,300 --> 01:33:28,200
And, you know, we were looking
the other day in Daquan right.

1621
01:33:28,300 --> 01:33:32,000
Ranked in the mid-30s in and you
start saying is that a place

1622
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,900
like in Georgia, Florida we
Circle do we Circle in the

1623
01:33:34,900 --> 01:33:39,100
mid-30s to go find talent
because you know what we do

1624
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:41,400
Brian we pulled up the state of
Georgia.

1625
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,000
We look I'd the thirty fifth
ranked player in the state of

1626
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:49,100
Georgia.
This year is a four-star

1627
01:33:49,100 --> 01:33:52,600
offensive lineman I think
University,

1628
01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:09,400
but we are surrounded by so many
Talent Rich States, and we have

1629
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:13,300
connections, or we did have
connections to the State of

1630
01:34:13,300 --> 01:34:16,700
Florida for years.
And that's why I look at those

1631
01:34:16,700 --> 01:34:20,600
two in like you kind of said,
and thanks for kind of It up.

1632
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,900
It's like we don't effectively
what you're telling us is

1633
01:34:24,500 --> 01:34:27,500
they're still having to build
the relationships there as the

1634
01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:31,300
program of Virginia Tech.
And if we take a look at Brent

1635
01:34:31,300 --> 01:34:35,800
pry, it's almost dark clothes
slowly build out slowly build

1636
01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,300
out slowly build out.
And again, I'll go back to North

1637
01:34:38,300 --> 01:34:41,200
Carolina.
Those three of the top 20 and

1638
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:45,100
you saying, they are feeling
good and they have good things

1639
01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:49,700
going for Tech, that's big but
again, you know, it's the same

1640
01:34:49,700 --> 01:34:50,100
way.
What?

1641
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,300
Like Florida.
You know you look and you think

1642
01:34:52,300 --> 01:34:55,400
you know you talk about diving
Belfort Dhabi.

1643
01:34:55,400 --> 01:35:00,600
Billboards her 24/7 drink 88 and
you go look at them and it's

1644
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,200
like okay he's an 88 ranked
player in the state that's

1645
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,800
really low and then you look a
little bit closer and it's like

1646
01:35:06,900 --> 01:35:10,400
well I'll have them as an 87
you'll have them as a top 50

1647
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:14,200
quarterback.
He's still in the top, he's 88

1648
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,600
in that state.
He still in the top 450

1649
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:22,500
nationally.
That's crazy to think that and

1650
01:35:22,500 --> 01:35:25,300
you look like, you look at his
offer list you mentioned, am you

1651
01:35:25,300 --> 01:35:29,100
got Michigan State on his Trail?
You've got all sorts of SEC, Big

1652
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:36,700
Ten, ACC schools offering him.
So, I mean again, and if he's

1653
01:35:36,700 --> 01:35:39,700
proud and if he's not pry, if
he's bowling Sky.

1654
01:35:40,700 --> 01:35:42,000
While I pull the trigger and
pop.

1655
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:43,800
Watson was bolin's.
Got you pull the trigger?

1656
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:48,200
You get them in, you compete.
you know, to transfer portal was

1657
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:52,400
generous to the Hokey so far
this year, we all will admit

1658
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:58,700
that But just kind of looking at
the numbers and hearing things,

1659
01:35:59,100 --> 01:36:04,900
how much movement do you foresee
after spring and do you think

1660
01:36:05,300 --> 01:36:09,300
with how big the class could
potentially be for this cycle?

1661
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:15,700
How could it affect that?
Yeah, I definitely think that

1662
01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:19,500
there's going to be a lot of
movement.

1663
01:36:19,500 --> 01:36:21,800
This spring.
I mean prior I was kind of

1664
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:25,000
talking about it earlier today,
just saying that you know

1665
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,700
they're constantly evaluating
the guys whether it's in the

1666
01:36:27,700 --> 01:36:30,600
Hunger drills during the winter.
Now they're getting into

1667
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:39,200
practices for see quite a bit of
attrition coming and you know

1668
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:44,200
whether it's I think they would
be open because, you know, like,

1669
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,600
once the transfer portal opens
back up, there's going to be

1670
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,600
some names in there that.
I feel like, you know, if you

1671
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:53,600
can grab them, plug them in
their veterans, whether they

1672
01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:57,200
have connections with any of the
current staffs from former

1673
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:02,700
schools or what, you know, they
could NAB another guy or two out

1674
01:37:02,700 --> 01:37:06,000
of the transfer portal, but
definitely like there's a vision

1675
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:10,400
in place for getting you know,
whether it's the next recruiting

1676
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,400
class getting a Plethora of
talented, you know, just kind of

1677
01:37:13,407 --> 01:37:16,600
making the roster, how plan
envisions it just kind of

1678
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:19,800
working all those things out.
Well, let me let me ask this

1679
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:23,500
because as I take a look here,
24/7 transfer portal, you know,

1680
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:26,100
I get into the top 50, most of
those guys are committed

1681
01:37:26,100 --> 01:37:30,300
elsewhere.
But is this a chance after

1682
01:37:30,300 --> 01:37:34,800
spring could there be potential,
former 24/7, you know, top 300

1683
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:39,000
players that eventually maybe
went to the wrong fit.

1684
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:46,800
Maybe, you know, when somewhere
coaching changes happened and

1685
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,500
now not effectively that they
want to move out.

1686
01:37:49,500 --> 01:37:53,000
But okay, the guy who recruited
me isn't here anymore?

1687
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:56,200
The scheme is changing.
I need to get in the portal, try

1688
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:59,100
to find a home in when they're
that young is like a redshirt

1689
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:01,800
freshman Finchley.
There's still an unknown

1690
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,600
product, right?
It's almost like, recruiting

1691
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:08,500
high school kid again.
Yeah 100%.

1692
01:38:08,900 --> 01:38:11,700
I know there was a blanking on
the name right now but I know

1693
01:38:11,700 --> 01:38:14,600
that there was a four-star guy
out of Virginia.

1694
01:38:14,900 --> 01:38:17,300
That was committed to Notre
Dame.

1695
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:21,900
Oh yes, backed off.
So that's like one example where

1696
01:38:21,900 --> 01:38:25,000
you know something shifts or it
doesn't work out release from

1697
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:31,200
your ni l or an ally.
But you know that's you know, an

1698
01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:36,600
opportunity for Virginia to open
up that conversation I know that

1699
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:40,800
guy Some looking at Michigan.
Ohio State, some of the other

1700
01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:44,200
big 10 schools right now, I know
Virginia Tech is in contact,

1701
01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:48,300
but, you know, there's going to
be several cases like that where

1702
01:38:48,300 --> 01:38:51,200
you have a four-star guy.
Whether, you know, even the high

1703
01:38:51,200 --> 01:38:55,600
priest are guys that, you know,
release from a certain school,

1704
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,500
you know, a freshman that
doesn't see where they fit into

1705
01:38:59,500 --> 01:39:02,000
the equation.
All of a sudden they're on the

1706
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:06,100
Move, obviously, the transfer
portal brings craziness and you

1707
01:39:06,100 --> 01:39:07,900
can't really predict what?
It's going to happen.

1708
01:39:07,900 --> 01:39:13,100
But you know this staff is very
in tune with it and I think that

1709
01:39:13,100 --> 01:39:16,500
they're constantly evaluating
checking every day and if

1710
01:39:16,500 --> 01:39:19,000
there's a way to make Virginia
Tech better though, will take

1711
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:22,800
that opportunity.
Sounds good.

1712
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:27,600
So let's talk about this.
Then, you know, we with the last

1713
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:30,700
staff and just recruiting a
general over the last few years,

1714
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:35,000
it seems like roster management
hasn't been great and we've kind

1715
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:38,700
of gotten to a head the last
couple years with that, in terms

1716
01:39:38,700 --> 01:39:41,700
of the, on the field product
from a roster management

1717
01:39:41,700 --> 01:39:45,600
perspective.
What position group, can we not

1718
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:48,600
afford to have low number of
commits in this cycle?

1719
01:39:49,700 --> 01:39:54,800
It has to be defensive tackle
like, it just has to be you.

1720
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:56,700
Look at the Ross.
Now, again, you have like

1721
01:39:56,700 --> 01:40:02,600
Kendricks, you have neural
Pollard, you have fuga, like,

1722
01:40:02,600 --> 01:40:05,900
could all potentially go.
And then you got a backfill that

1723
01:40:05,900 --> 01:40:09,100
I think Wilfred penne is a
redshirt Junior.

1724
01:40:09,100 --> 01:40:12,700
At this point, obviously has an
extra year, but if that's your

1725
01:40:12,700 --> 01:40:15,000
number one guy, going into the
next season.

1726
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:18,300
And, you know, that kind of
shows you how you built that

1727
01:40:18,300 --> 01:40:22,500
room.
I know that they're looking at a

1728
01:40:22,500 --> 01:40:25,700
guy like Mike appendix, who's
not rated right now.

1729
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:29,700
Out of Virginia, he's coming to
campus soon.

1730
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:34,300
They have Emmett laws who's an
absolute stud from DeMatha

1731
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:40,200
obviously the DeMatha actually
he's visiting as well this

1732
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:43,200
weekend.
He's a guy that I think is like

1733
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:48,100
the absolute number one priority
Target in terms of defensive

1734
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:51,000
tackle.
Brooks on that man.

1735
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:55,200
Exactly.
Like they need to pull out all

1736
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:59,600
the stops for him but again it's
one of those positional units

1737
01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:05,700
where like it shouldn't be that
hard to evaluate guys in high

1738
01:41:05,700 --> 01:41:09,800
school but somehow it is and I
wouldn't be surprised.

1739
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:13,100
If, you know, Virginia Tech is
going into the portal next

1740
01:41:13,100 --> 01:41:16,900
offseason and plucking out to
guys that are, you know, have

1741
01:41:16,900 --> 01:41:20,300
done it had the body.
E type, they're looking for and

1742
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:24,900
and can play in their scheme.
So I understand like you don't

1743
01:41:24,900 --> 01:41:28,200
want to just reach and get guys,
they're not going to be able to

1744
01:41:28,900 --> 01:41:32,700
compete but definitely defensive
tackles one of those positional

1745
01:41:32,700 --> 01:41:34,600
groups where they got to get it.
Right.

1746
01:41:34,700 --> 01:41:36,500
So you're pretty much saying we
got to kind of front feel

1747
01:41:36,500 --> 01:41:41,400
impactful.
Yeah definitely and every portal

1748
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:45,900
heavy 2024 class heavy, hit the
pit that Porter as hard as we

1749
01:41:45,900 --> 01:41:48,100
can.
I'm all for and another, you

1750
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:51,400
know, I guess the Next question,
it will kind of go with next

1751
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,000
topic will bring up is what you
kind of led into.

1752
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:58,800
We're closing out the 23 class,
the kind of know what we have

1753
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,500
and what we need.
But looking back over that

1754
01:42:02,500 --> 01:42:03,900
class.
I'll tell you.

1755
01:42:03,900 --> 01:42:08,200
Who do you think was the most
important recruit in that cycle?

1756
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:12,800
It's a good question.
I'm I know it's kind of a easy

1757
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:17,000
answer, but I would sail a
scanner because not only like

1758
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,100
when you have a guy like that.
And I think what gets Lost in

1759
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:24,300
Translation a lot in terms of
looking at 24/7 Sports profiles

1760
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:28,100
is like when a guy commits kind
of early, like, they don't

1761
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:31,600
report offers anymore, but there
are still teams that are

1762
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,700
actively after them.
And I know that West Virginia

1763
01:42:34,700 --> 01:42:38,500
was a major Force Penn State was
going up against Virginia Tech.

1764
01:42:38,700 --> 01:42:41,500
There are some other big 10
schools in the mix that really

1765
01:42:41,500 --> 01:42:45,700
wanted him and he's very like he
already has rave reviews on

1766
01:42:45,700 --> 01:42:48,600
campus.
He's a guy obviously with Crooks

1767
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:52,800
that, you know, they'll built a
good connection there, but he

1768
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:57,000
was someone that a lot of
schools wanted and even though

1769
01:42:57,000 --> 01:43:00,300
his offer list is, you know,
pretty insane to look at on the

1770
01:43:00,300 --> 01:43:04,100
site like add 20 more offers to
that, like there are a lot of

1771
01:43:04,100 --> 01:43:08,400
guys asking about him UNC was
another team that was trying to

1772
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:10,900
take.
Late in the cycle really trying

1773
01:43:11,700 --> 01:43:13,300
but he stayed committed the
whole time.

1774
01:43:13,400 --> 01:43:17,100
So obviously, Joe Rudolph is
gone but you know he really

1775
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:20,100
believed in the Virginia Tech
Vision, he's an early enrollee

1776
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:24,000
and I think he's going to do
great things with with Crooks.

1777
01:43:24,500 --> 01:43:25,100
Okay.
I got it.

1778
01:43:25,100 --> 01:43:26,900
I got to go with something else
to that.

1779
01:43:26,900 --> 01:43:29,700
I've been wondering.
This is just me and you we don't

1780
01:43:29,700 --> 01:43:32,800
have to get Curtis and and Brian
involved in this.

1781
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:37,000
Do I know you're not being
recorded, you can be honest with

1782
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:38,500
me.
He's not being recorded on.

1783
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:48,700
You know, a lot of us fans.
When a player commits to certain

1784
01:43:48,700 --> 01:43:52,400
schools, they get a bump or they
get a drop.

1785
01:43:53,300 --> 01:43:56,100
Was that true?
Or is that just fictional

1786
01:43:56,100 --> 01:44:00,700
thinking it is fictional?
But I do like The Narrative of I

1787
01:44:00,708 --> 01:44:12,500
like I like when people say, you
know, I don't like it but it's

1788
01:44:12,700 --> 01:44:17,200
it's more like an I don't do
rang As myself thankfully,

1789
01:44:18,100 --> 01:44:22,900
otherwise I would have every
recruit in my DMs, you know,

1790
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,700
guys when they're, when they're
evaluating, like when a guy

1791
01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:29,300
commits, like they're looking
again at that tape and making

1792
01:44:29,300 --> 01:44:33,300
another decision on it.
There are times especially like,

1793
01:44:33,700 --> 01:44:37,000
Virginia Tech, like, they don't
want someone committed without

1794
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:40,000
being evaluated, in terms of
like, you know, if it's an

1795
01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:43,600
unranked guy that they haven't
gotten around to yet and he

1796
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:46,500
commits to a school like all of
a Then he jumps to the top of

1797
01:44:46,508 --> 01:44:49,000
the list in terms of who they're
going to rank next.

1798
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:52,300
So, a lot of the times when you
see like a most Phillips, like

1799
01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:56,100
he got a ranking like two weeks
after he committed, right?

1800
01:44:56,500 --> 01:44:59,200
All right.
So he has put the myth to bed

1801
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:20,400
badly, I should feed into one.
We're talking in August, you

1802
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,200
know, chatting with you, in some
way shape, or form.

1803
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:26,700
And we're hearing from Camp,
like, this guy's killing it.

1804
01:45:26,700 --> 01:45:29,800
This guy's going to be on the
field for whatever unit he's

1805
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:30,900
with.
He's going to get to some

1806
01:45:30,900 --> 01:45:34,000
special teams action.
Who are you hearing?

1807
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:37,200
Do you think In six months,
right?

1808
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:41,700
Six months yet, six months
there, on the side, huh?

1809
01:45:41,700 --> 01:45:45,900
Math is hard.
You know, I'm going to give you

1810
01:45:45,900 --> 01:45:50,700
two answers for this and it's
one on defense, but a guy like

1811
01:45:50,700 --> 01:45:54,600
eating green, another early
enrollee, He's listed at like 6

1812
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:56,900
foot and a half.
I think he checked in at like

1813
01:45:56,900 --> 01:46:00,700
6:00 to he was 16.
He on his profile and he's like

1814
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:06,000
closer to 175 like he had, it's
been turning a lot of heads and

1815
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:09,800
I know they brought him like a
ton of Transport transfer portal

1816
01:46:09,800 --> 01:46:14,000
Talent transfer portal Talent
into the wide receiver room.

1817
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:17,200
But I think he's a guy that can
scratch the too deep because

1818
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:21,000
he's not like he's versatile
enough to play in the slot but

1819
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:25,500
he can also play out why I know
it's you know maybe it's easier

1820
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:30,200
to put him you know spot reps in
the slot but I really think he

1821
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:34,600
could be someone that you know,
comes in as you know the fifth

1822
01:46:34,600 --> 01:46:36,400
or sixth wide receiver next
year.

1823
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,800
Like I think they really want to
build a rotation there and I

1824
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:41,900
think he's a guy that could
produce, I'm not going to say

1825
01:46:41,900 --> 01:46:46,800
like he's gonna have over 500.
It's five touchdowns but he's

1826
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:50,800
someone that I think like will
see pretty early on and I think

1827
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,400
he could establish himself
definitely in the 2D before you.

1828
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:58,000
Before you go on to your next
player Metate.

1829
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:00,100
Do you know how welcoming that
is?

1830
01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:03,800
As a fan that had Caleb Smith
last year?

1831
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,800
The only wide receiver catching
passes, but you did say you'd

1832
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:12,000
like, we may have a early impact
player being our fifth or sixth

1833
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:15,600
wide receiver.
Hey I told you I wasn't feeling

1834
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:19,300
good this year, I'll say this to
you because you know, I like

1835
01:47:19,300 --> 01:47:22,100
getting the morale up and I'm
always hesitant to pick wide

1836
01:47:22,100 --> 01:47:26,300
receivers, you know, a guy like
Tucker Holloway like we are

1837
01:47:26,300 --> 01:47:28,900
hearing great things about him
last year, getting into the too

1838
01:47:28,900 --> 01:47:34,300
deep and obviously we saw some
flashes on special teams but

1839
01:47:34,300 --> 01:47:37,800
yeah I really do think Aiden.
Green does have that type of

1840
01:47:37,800 --> 01:47:40,700
talent that, you know, could
establish himself in there.

1841
01:47:41,400 --> 01:47:45,400
And if he shows up and you know,
the system works, Obviously no

1842
01:47:45,500 --> 01:47:49,100
freshman's going to do well in
last year's offense but I think

1843
01:47:49,100 --> 01:47:52,500
you know more simplified version
getting more guys on the field

1844
01:47:53,300 --> 01:47:55,800
you know, not making the scheme
as complex.

1845
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,100
This year I think is really
going to help some of the

1846
01:47:58,100 --> 01:48:02,400
younger guys and then
defensively like surprisingly

1847
01:48:02,400 --> 01:48:05,100
like I've heard a lot of good
things about most Phillips.

1848
01:48:06,100 --> 01:48:09,900
I know that safety is obviously
you know you're looking to build

1849
01:48:09,900 --> 01:48:13,400
depth are you know Jalen
Stroman.

1850
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:16,000
See your peoples Are obviously,
like, the two guys you're

1851
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:20,700
looking at there, but I think
outside of that, like, you know,

1852
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:26,500
most Phillips can push and Jalen
whole oil in the 2p and really

1853
01:48:26,500 --> 01:48:28,500
establish himself.
Like he's a hard hitter, he's a

1854
01:48:28,500 --> 01:48:31,100
physical guy.
He does remind me that of

1855
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:35,300
Tomorrow Connor and, you know, I
think he could make an instant

1856
01:48:35,300 --> 01:48:38,700
impact, like, he's really
impressed and I think he goes

1857
01:48:38,700 --> 01:48:41,900
beyond his rating.
Like he was just kind of one of

1858
01:48:41,900 --> 01:48:43,800
those sleeper guys late in the
cycle.

1859
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:45,800
And You showing up and playing
well.

1860
01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:49,300
So I think he's another one that
could sneak in there.

1861
01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:52,200
All right.
Let me ask this.

1862
01:48:52,300 --> 01:48:55,500
I feel like this is kind of
something that can kind of put a

1863
01:48:55,500 --> 01:48:59,000
bow on this 23 situation.
So, you know, we talked a lot

1864
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:02,000
about relationships.
We talked about how the staff is

1865
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:03,900
really rebuilding those bridges
in Virginia.

1866
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:07,800
Let's take Holland Springs and
their players out of the mix.

1867
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:09,300
As we know the relationship
there.

1868
01:49:09,300 --> 01:49:11,000
With Lauren Johnson, everything
else.

1869
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:16,900
What's a player or a school that
we targeted this cycle?

1870
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:19,500
That could that we got to
recruit from that?

1871
01:49:19,500 --> 01:49:22,100
Could really benefit the Hokies
for future Cycles.

1872
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:26,900
Yeah, I'm gonna go with the
cop-out answer here and I'm

1873
01:49:26,900 --> 01:49:31,100
going to say Dante love it.
The Matha alive.

1874
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:21,300
An example of a guy that was
very important to keep like a

1875
01:50:21,308 --> 01:50:24,500
lot of schools wanted.
You know, I don't know if

1876
01:50:24,500 --> 01:50:28,400
they're going to get a guy like
Cavani Mozelle who's, you know,

1877
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:31,000
I think he's a five star running
back out of the math.

1878
01:50:32,100 --> 01:50:34,500
He committed.
He's probably gonna head to the

1879
01:50:34,500 --> 01:50:42,600
SEC but you know between Brooks
Bowen Pride like Maryland in

1880
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:46,500
general is you know I'm very
excited to see all the

1881
01:50:46,500 --> 01:50:47,700
recruiting news come out of
there.

1882
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,400
It's the third highest offer,
lisper, 24/7.

1883
01:50:51,500 --> 01:50:54,600
You get Virginia.
North Carolina, Maryland stirred

1884
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:58,700
at 22 by itself and looking.
It's a talented class and you

1885
01:50:58,700 --> 01:51:00,500
mentioned.
DeMatha less st.

1886
01:51:00,500 --> 01:51:02,300
Francis st.
Francis puts out.

1887
01:51:02,300 --> 01:51:04,300
Good play.
We got cam Johnson who got some

1888
01:51:04,300 --> 01:51:10,200
PT last year, Good Counsel.
It's a lot of places up there

1889
01:51:10,200 --> 01:51:13,500
and now again, Gonzaga and st.
John's, I mean, there's good.

1890
01:51:13,700 --> 01:51:17,900
Oh yeah, now with a whole new
coaching staff, we maybe go back

1891
01:51:17,900 --> 01:51:20,000
in there.
Let's not talk about that whole

1892
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:21,800
situation.
Jesus Lord.

1893
01:51:22,300 --> 01:51:27,700
But it's It's like I think the
the mentor Delaney thing I've

1894
01:51:27,700 --> 01:51:29,100
mentioned in this Italian Brown
earlier.

1895
01:51:29,100 --> 01:51:31,400
They may be one of the biggest
selling points.

1896
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:35,300
First of all his brother who is
already looking like, going to

1897
01:51:35,300 --> 01:51:39,200
be a unbelievable stud.
It's a Kindle Fuller situation.

1898
01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:43,700
Little brother or big brother
was good, little brothers Elite.

1899
01:51:44,200 --> 01:51:48,300
But you start thinking about
means we're coming in and they

1900
01:51:48,300 --> 01:51:52,500
basically you're good enough to
play go out there and play.

1901
01:51:52,900 --> 01:51:56,200
And how easy that is to sell and
then you start going into those

1902
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:59,400
schools and say, Hey listen, if
you come here and you're good

1903
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:01,900
enough to play, you're not going
to sit on the bench.

1904
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:04,600
No these other schools guess
what they're going to do?

1905
01:52:04,900 --> 01:52:08,400
Because they've got to keep all
the four and five stars.

1906
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:11,300
Happy you might have to sit
three years from you don't get

1907
01:52:11,300 --> 01:52:15,500
to play and that's still the
most I think as a fan and it's

1908
01:52:15,500 --> 01:52:20,500
probably all of us, you see
talented players, go somewhere

1909
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:24,900
and sit and sit.
And sit and then finally gave it

1910
01:52:24,900 --> 01:52:28,700
to start and they show out, but
you sit here and, you know, for

1911
01:52:28,700 --> 01:52:32,700
a fact dude, you could have went
anywhere in the country as a

1912
01:52:32,708 --> 01:52:34,100
true freshman and started
playing.

1913
01:52:34,900 --> 01:52:38,600
But you went to Alabama, you
went to Georgia and oh, they're

1914
01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:40,500
going to develop me.
Like dude, you're already

1915
01:52:40,500 --> 01:52:44,700
developed all they're doing is
taking their brand sticking it

1916
01:52:44,700 --> 01:52:47,300
on you in.
Anybody could do that.

1917
01:52:47,400 --> 01:53:02,500
Sorry random choice.
I'm trying to.

1918
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:05,900
I haven't made a combinations
yet.

1919
01:53:05,900 --> 01:53:10,800
I'm working with Evan G Watkins
on that road, but definitely try

1920
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,200
and what have you?
And Evan need a bodyguard.

1921
01:53:13,200 --> 01:53:14,600
Y'all let me and Brian.
No.

1922
01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:17,500
Absolutely.
We going to be there.

1923
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:21,600
We don't have some, some BCP
gear for you.

1924
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,300
And we going to do Ready to grab
some recruits and pushing

1925
01:53:25,300 --> 01:53:27,400
Reynolds.
Let's do it.

1926
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,400
Gentlemen, if y'all check the
Twitter sphere is anything

1927
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,300
broken.
Anything interesting happened?

1928
01:53:32,300 --> 01:53:35,900
And the last two-plus hours?
Let me check and see if I got my

1929
01:53:35,900 --> 01:53:38,600
follow yet.
Still on me.

1930
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:45,600
Never mind.
No, not yet.

1931
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,400
Not yet.
It's coming.

1932
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:51,400
Hold on.
Wow, this is a huge moment for

1933
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:53,500
tally.
This is pretty big man.

1934
01:53:56,800 --> 01:54:01,000
Hey we got it.
Documented live on air.

1935
01:54:27,900 --> 01:54:29,500
We definitely want to have you
back.

1936
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,200
Absolutely.
And I can't wait till I it's

1937
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:37,300
always so fun between the times
we do it to look at the names

1938
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:39,600
talking about Street and then
the name that come in.

1939
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:41,700
Yeah.
Like what's Shadow over what has

1940
01:54:41,700 --> 01:54:43,800
it?
How much you do we've had you

1941
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:48,000
can say his name because you
stamped it July unless Something

1942
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:49,700
doesn't change.
He's going to pit.

1943
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:56,900
You stamped it.
I don't think you broke some

1944
01:54:56,900 --> 01:54:59,500
people, from Virginia Tech fans
hearts that night, but she was

1945
01:54:59,500 --> 01:55:02,100
just being real with us.
No man knows his stuff.

1946
01:55:02,200 --> 01:55:04,400
He does man.
Well, listen, that is going to

1947
01:55:04,407 --> 01:55:08,700
wrap up this episode of The
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1948
01:55:08,700 --> 01:55:11,300
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1950
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1951
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1960
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1961
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He's got a new single coming out

1962
01:56:06,500 --> 01:56:07,900
soon.
I know he's working on it.

1963
01:56:07,900 --> 01:56:11,700
He's also working on something
for us, if you can get certain

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01:56:11,700 --> 01:56:20,200
guests in the, hey, hey, This
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01:56:20,200 --> 01:56:22,100
working on some things for us as
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1966
01:56:22,700 --> 01:56:25,900
You know, and I don't think I
think Jason might have just

1967
01:56:25,900 --> 01:56:28,100
quit.
I'm looking here, I don't see

1968
01:56:28,100 --> 01:56:30,000
anything.
It's like he never gave up just

1969
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:33,000
he's in the he's in the studio.
He's in the studio.

1970
01:56:33,600 --> 01:56:38,100
So we thank you for listening
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01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:39,100
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247 Sports Writer

Matej is a Writer for 247Sports.com's VTScoop. He joined the staff as a Sophomore while attending Virginia Tech and has worked there ever since. He primarily focuses on VT Football, but has coverage on VT Basketball as well. He also helps with recruiting coverage.

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Wrestling Aficionado

Former Division II wrestler and Hokies wrestling aficionado, David has been an avid fan of Hokies wrestling since he was a kid. His collegiate wrestling experience and knowledge of the sport provides for detailed and big picture analysis of a complex/niche sport.