Spring is in the air and a large contingent of Hokie faithful are set to make the trek to Blacksburg for the annual Orange and Maroon Spring Game. This iteration brings a little more intrigue than previous years as we get our first real look at what the Hokies will look like on both sides of the ball under new coordinators Philip Montgomery and Sam Siefkes. We invite our good buddy Coach Robbie Compton, fresh off his trip to Blacksburg for the Hokies High School Coaches Chalk Talk, to give us his assessment of how these new schemes might fit our personnel.

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner Podcast, a part of the

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College Huddle Network along
with my partner, Brian Siegler

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and our special guest host
tonight, Coach Robert Compton.

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I am Curtis Wilson and as
always, we are brought to you by

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the Counts Family Pharmacy, your
friendly neighborhood pharmacy

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three O 1 S Main St. in
Blacksburg.

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And if you are heading down to
the spring game this weekend,

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stop by say hello to Jeremy.
If you don't want to say hello

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to Jeremy there after the game,
go say hello to Jeremy and Brian

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and Pete B from 2D and Dan and
you have a fourth.

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Is it just y'all 3?
I don't know if Sam's going to

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be there or not, Sam.
OK, I think Sam, Jesse from Suns

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of Saturday all going to be at
Maroon Door after the game.

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That should be an entertaining
few hours, because I know you

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are.
Not y'all.

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Can't make me chug a rail
because I'm not at TOTS.

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You're not at Tots.
That's true.

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That's true, yes.
We'll also say this me and Brian

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freshly off of the Carnival
Sunshine cruise out of Norfolk,

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VA, where we got tanned, we
drank, makes drinks, we gamble,

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we were on crystal clear
beaches.

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Looks like the skipper didn't
get stranded anywhere this time.

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No he didn't.
The skipper didn't get stranded

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anywhere this time.
Skipper had a fun though.

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It was a good time, man, it was
a good time.

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You can't see them back here.
How many shot glasses did we

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get?
We were there every night with

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dinner, took at least one shot.
I think Brian, you got one extra

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because you took the Cinnamon
Toast Crunch at.

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The end I took one extra at the
end of the week, but I missed

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Tuesday because we were late
getting back from NASA.

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Did you roll like?
Deep in the shot glasses like we

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used to do with Macadoos in
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Yeah, Yeah, it was.
It was at least it was 8 to 12

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shots being taken every night at
dinner.

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Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.

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Yeah, I think we had a party at
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So I had the drink package too.
So I was drinking all day, all

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night at dinner.
Might as well.

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I had to get my money's worth.
Once you spent the money, you

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got to go out there and make
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Your money's worth.
Occasionally Brown would just

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roll up to me and be like he go.
He's just like I got a drink on

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some way.
We'll say this.

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We both ended plus in the casino
PKS at 3:00 AM.

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In there.
Yeah, plus in the casino.

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Lots of fun in the casino.
Yeah, I was.

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I was up just over 300 I think.
Curtis, you were what, 350?

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I was up No 240.
OK.

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But that last night.
I was up.

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Four grew up a.
Lot I was up four and then I I

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didn't have a good a Good Friday
night, but that's OK.

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Well, the the craps table
finally said no Sir.

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Yeah.
And then the blackjack table, we

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just kept getting well, how many
times you hit 21?

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Like twice or three times or?
No, No, no.

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You hit 23 times and the dealer
drew to 21.

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Drew to 21.
Drew to 21.

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Reason my favorite hand at a
blackjack table is like 9:00 and

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4:00.
I like a nine four, yeah.

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I kept getting like 5 and then
getting like A8 or or getting a

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nine or a face card.
Like what are you doing?

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Like stop dealing me these
hands.

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Either deal me something low or
deal me something high.

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Yeah, I kept getting, I kept
getting like phase five, phase

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6.
Just the well it will all

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depends on how many.
Well we will say this ACE or or

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phase five.
Phase 6 is OK with a big table.

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Yeah.
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there's a lot of info out there
and you can say, you know what,

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there is a bunch of face out
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The odds aren't good.
So good.

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Me, Curtis, and one other random
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That was it.
And we kept getting bad hands by

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the way.
Got to tell the cool story real

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quick.
So we, we are in the store on

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the ship, the liquor store, you
know where you.

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I where the $75 Jack Daniels
was.

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The $75, three liter Jack
Daniels, 3 liters.

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I've never seen anything that
big in my life.

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I didn't get that.
I got enough whiskey downstairs.

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That's the that's the part of
the story I missed.

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I just thought it was a regular
bottle of Jack for 75.

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Three liters a different story.
Completely.

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It's a great deal.
Yeah.

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But you got to carry it all the
way back to your car.

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I got 2 bottles of rum.
They had Bacardi liters for 15

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bucks.
I couldn't do it.

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But anyway, so we're sitting
there, me and I'm a neighbor,

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Andrew.
Brian, I think this was the day

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you were in Nassau, Can't
remember.

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But you weren't there.
So anyway, I just bought mine.

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I just asked a couple questions
about something and this lady

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comes behind us notice she's got
a Virginia Tech thing on and I

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just kind of mentioned I'm
Virginia Tech fan and she's

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doing her stuff and we convinced
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she, she got the Woodward's
reserve.

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My neighbor Andrew huge into
whiskey told her there's a

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double oak over there for $10
more go get it.

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It's a better taste in one and
so on.

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And so and we start chatting
with her and, and he mentions

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offhand, you know, my buddy
Curtis here does a, a, a podcast

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for Genentech football.
She stops and she cocks her head

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towards me and said, then you
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I was like, well, who was that?
Fontell mines mines Mama.

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And I said, not only do I know
your son, who he is, I have

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interviewed your son on my
podcast before and he is a super

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nice guy.
She was very nice.

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I got a picture with her.
I'll I'll have that up.

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It was, it was funny though.
Small world.

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The the just the fact that she's
wearing Virginia Tech stuff is

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awesome considering where he
went to school.

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True.
Well, I, I think, I think his

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Mama knows who who pays the
bills.

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Yeah.
Brian, anything you want to

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share from the excursion?
Oh man, riding the golf carts up

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and down Bimini was pretty
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Got to check out a guy
harvesting some some conch right

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out right out the the water
there and then, you know, even

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it from a shack that you know is
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And there was some some really
good and really, really

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interesting folks that we met
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So I was just just excited to
kind of take all that in,

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experienced that and yeah man it
was a good time.

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And like like like I said, I
took advantage of the drink

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package on the boat so y'all
know I was feeling good most of

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the time.
Yeah, he was feeling good most

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of the time.
Never got like shit faced I was.

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I was just like, I just had a
steady buzz most of the day.

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Yeah, I don't know for sure, but
I've always been told that you

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can drink a lot more and not
feel nearly as it's true.

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Drop dead drunk.
It's true on a cruise then you

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can anywhere else because of the
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You feel half drunk when you're
sober.

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You do.
It's not a lie.

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So it is true.
Like there were a couple days I

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had, I don't know, I had 3-4
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like I didn't feel it.
Like I didn't feel it although

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Monday.
Oh yeah, Monday the shift was

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rocking baby and they it was
raining sideways in the morning

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and then in the afternoon the
the water got choppy and one

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time she like listed to the left
and like held for a a little

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bit.
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Like, oh, all right, this isn't
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This is just bobbing.
We just.

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Holding the line right there I
was in my room, I.

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Felt like I was in the Smooth
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I've been, I've been Western
North Carolina right now long

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enough and I probably could have
managed that.

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I feel like one leg's getting
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standing on the heel.
I'd have been good to go there.

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We go, well, just so you know,
it's out of Norfolk now, man,

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and they're doing Bahamas and
Brian, I looked up, they're

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doing an Eastern Caribbean where
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come back by half, Boone Bay,
the Super nice little island on

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the western part of the Bahamas.
And then the celebration key.

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Whale next time.
Both of y'all's first cruises.

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Both.
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OK.
I've always heard stories that

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once you go always, you're going
to go forever.

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Well, you're.
Already planning the next?

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One, I mean, it's, well, I mean
for price per person and what

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you get and where you go, it's
unbeatable.

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I mean, and Brian got the drink
package and clearly he was

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having the time of his life with
a bunch of mixers and beers and

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anything you want.
Yeah, I was out there like if if

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it was on the menu, I'm like,
all right, give it to me some

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some of the like rare rums that
they had in a couple of bars

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there, like made some African
rum, they had some Caribbean

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rum, they had some.
Give it to him.

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Yeah, yeah, whatever it is.
So you know, you get a it's rum,

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you get, you get you get a two
finger for like 18 bucks or

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anything under 20 bucks is in
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So.
It's true.

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Well, as much fun as that was
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going again, although we'll like
we messaged you in November, you

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should just.
Come with us.

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You should just came with us,
we'd have a fun week Spring.

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Break didn't.
My spring break is next week.

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Yeah.
Well, maybe we'll look at, maybe

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we'll look at the summertime.
There we go.

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There's Lavar.
School places on my spring break

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next week.
Let me think this week there in

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the Caribbean, you probably
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Bahamas probably for like $1000,
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I'm going to Windmill Bakery and
I'm just as happy about that as

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I would for those of you that
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You know if.
You know, you know, and if you

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where we're from, you definitely
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But anyways, we got a spring
game to unload.

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Riley went down to Blacksburg
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Can't tell the whole story, He
can get in trouble, but go, go.

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Got some insight, got some
thoughts on things.

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So we're going to talk about
that.

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Then we're going to do a little
spring game preview, kind of

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look at each position and what
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Talk about a few players here
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But Robbie, I want to start with
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Obviously you went down for the
coaches clinic where you got to

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mingle with all the coaches, the
new coaches, the old coaches,

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see some practice, see some
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And I want to start because I
know we know you're a defensive

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guy and I know you spend a ton
of time with the defense inside

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those seminars and those
trainings.

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Give me your impression of Sam
Cephas because he is the biggest

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unknown in this group more than
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But what is your biggest
impression of him just as a

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person, as a coach?
He he's a he's he's a very as a

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person, as a coach.
The man is a teacher.

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And I know he's he said it in in
several of his things that I've

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watched since he's taking the
job there at Virginia Tech.

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Trying to follow him, trying to
figure out, you know, looking at

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his old stuff where he's been
watching some film and stuff

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from Wofford, watching some
stuff with the Cardinals, which

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are two totally different, well,
not totally different looks, but

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so much more involved with the
Cardinals, obviously with a

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group of pros compared to, to
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But you can tell he's a teacher.
And he, he said it itself, it's

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a coach is, is an educator to
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And he makes things so simple to
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he's teaching his stuff to by
giving things in chunks and

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pieces, He calls them buckets.
And, and it's, it's simple

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education stuff that I use
everyday, you know, taking

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little pieces, building
scaffolding, taking things, you

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know, here things, you know,
here, building pieces on to it.

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So it all comes together in one
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And I think that's going to be
huge in in allowing the guys

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that they have there to, to
learn this defense quickly and

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effectively and be able to take
off running when when they get

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there.
Can I ask you this, the stuff

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you went through, did you feel
like after sitting and hearing

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him explain things that you
could just go out like I can do

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this through, I can, I can teach
these elements like that.

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Absolutely.
Like I felt like just by

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hearing, just by talking now I,
I have a little bit more of a

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base knowledge than the average
person would.

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But just the way he talked about
things and put some things

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together, I mean, it clicked to
me.

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I mean, I felt like I could go
out and I could get a call and

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hear it and know exactly where I
needed to be, where anybody

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needed to be at any time.
So yeah, I mean, he very

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effective teacher and that's
going to help a lot with, with

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younger guys coming in with
everybody learning a new system

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and some things like that.
It's going to help tremendously,

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I feel.
Yeah, that's, that's exciting.

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And I mean, I, you know, when
you talk about the buckets and

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kind of breaking down those
things in the small pieces, I

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think that's a, a big key,
especially when you're learning

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a new system like, like the
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Being able to, to to make things
digestible and to layer what

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you're implementing in a way
that, you know, we, we can do

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almost like, you know, like a
college course that you got one

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O 120-1301 and you just kind of
build it on it as you're going

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along there.
So, but that was that was

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fascinating to see and to be
able to to pull things there.

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As a high school coach, I feel
like I run a system that's

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similar to some of the stuff
that that Cephus does, obviously

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at a much, much more basic level
in high school than than the

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complexity of some of the stuff
that we know he can do by

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watching films from from Arizona
and and things like that.

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But it was very easy for me to
pick up the way he was, the way

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he was showing things, the way
he was teaching things to us and

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just simple things.
And how it could build on so

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much and make it be so simple
for his players to understand

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and to pick up and to be able to
run, but would look so complex

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to anybody outside of it that
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Yeah, let me ask this Robbie.
So like a lots been made about,

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you know, needing a a a Buddha
Baker type to for this thing to

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run the way you want it to.
Is it is what you're seeing is

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are you going to need that
caliber a player, not

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necessarily a Buddha Baker, but
someone that can cover a lot of

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ground like that for this thing
to function the way it needs to

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I.
I think to have a guy like that

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is never going to hurt, but I
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I don't necessarily know just
from my experience and and with

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with a defense similar, you
don't necessarily have to have

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that guy.
If everybody's on the same page

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and everybody understands their
purpose and their

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responsibilities and certain
things that one guy can make

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some bits and pieces that aren't
exactly perfect look incredible.

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Yeah.
Yeah, but I think I think you'll

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be able to.
I think the defense as a whole,

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I mean in my opinion, he ran
stuff similar at Wofford and

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didn't have a Buddha Baker type
guy and was obviously from from

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the statistics that show at
Wofford, he's very successful

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with it.
So I think it can be done pretty

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well without it.
It just got you.

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It comes down to knowing your
personnel and I think he

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understands what he's given them
and what he has and that that

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he'll find that good mix of what
he needs to make it effective.

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Is this kind of like a balance
between being able to be more

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risky in some areas because
you've got that caliber of a

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player versus trying to learn
more to a more risk averse and

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sound?
Yeah, I feel like standpoint,

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OK, I feel like it is now when
you can, when you can find that

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kind of player, you can do some
things that are maybe a little

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more unconventional and, and
take a little bit more risk

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because you know, you've got
some athleticism there.

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They can back you up and and
take you out of some spots.

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But I think just what I know
about some of the players and

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things like that, I think he's
got a good foundation to put

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some things together and he's
going to have people in the

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right spots to to figure out
what he needs to do with it.

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Nice.
Let's look to the offense real

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quick.
What did you notice?

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I know you didn't spend as much
time, but obviously you had

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colleagues that were spending
time with Montgomery, but what

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did they notice about him and
just what were the feelings from

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them about how he ran his areas
and how the players reacted and

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things like that?
They're, you know, as a coach, I

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don't believe in putting another
coach down.

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I think Bowens had his, had his
positives, had his pluses and

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things that he did.
But you could, to me, you could

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tell there was more of a
optimism or confidence in the

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fact that Montgomery's coming in
with experience.

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He's put together offenses top
to bottom, showed success,

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things like that.
And you could kind of feel that

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almost somewhat of a relief.
Not the uptightness of

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wandering.
You know, there's always going

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to be skepticism.
Bowen came in without a lot of

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experience calling plays,
setting up offense, running an

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offense.
You don't.

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I don't feel like you felt that
with Montgomery.

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They, they know that he has a
track record.

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He has a reputation, he's been a
head coach.

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He's run offenses, he's run
teams.

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They have that confidence in
what he's going to try to do.

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And it's I feel like it's
probably going to be a little

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bit different than what we've
seen the last couple of years.

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Again, it's early spring
practice.

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It's, you know, first contact
scrimmage is what we saw a lot

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going to be different from there
to the next week, much less the

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spring game and then to the
fall.

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But I feel, I feel like there,
there's some, there's some good

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things there and and definitely
some some good change that's

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going to that should give some
people some optimism, not so

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much hype like we saw last year,
but some optimism for the

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process is going well and going
in the right direction.

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So instead of like so last year
we had a lot of momentum and I

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know we talked about this a lot,
Curtis and Robbie.

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I know we talked about it kind
of off camera a little bit.

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Like there was a lot of hype.
You know, we kind of saw a upper

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trajectory in in 23 at the end
of the season.

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You know, you had all these, you
know, decent run there at the

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end and we're like, you OK, we
probably lost two earlier in the

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year.
We shouldn't have.

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There's a whole lot of optimism.
You had national media buying

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into it.
You had the fan base that I

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probably, you know, hyped it
into oblivion.

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You know, this time last year we
were having some very serious

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discussions about, you know, can
this team win, you know, 10

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games and things like that.
And I think, I think we don't

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necessarily have any of that
hype in this in this team, But I

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think there's also, I think like
you said, a kind of reserved

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confidence of all right, well,
if, if this, if this goes the

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way it could go, we might be on
to something.

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And and that's not to say we're
going to go out there and win

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810 games.
I don't think we we're

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necessarily talked about wins or
losses yet, But I think getting

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some some new blood in those
coordinator rooms, I think is

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going to be a little bit of a
shot in the arm for some of

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these guys.
And I think packing in,

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especially on offense
experience, not only, you know,

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you looking at, you know,
flipping over the the offensive

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line room, but also what you're
doing in the coordinator room

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there.
It feels like you're taking some

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some of the correct steps you
need to take to maximize the

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talent that's already on this
offense.

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Absolutely 100.
Percent.

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Bike I was, I was hyping the
thing up after being there last

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year myself.
Like I felt really good about

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what you about what I saw at the
beginning of it.

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I feel good about what I saw
this year and things like that.

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But there's just a different
luck plays a big part into that.

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I mean, you get injuries and
stuff early on.

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You get things banged up, you
get the right players banged up

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in the right spots and that
makes a turn real quick where

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who immediately gets to blame
for it play call in and things

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like that.
I'm not saying that that doesn't

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have a part in it, but some of
the other factors too that a lot

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of teams you don't, they're not
going to blame it on those

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things, but it pay, it plays a
lot into it.

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And I think just the the
experience, the all of those

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things that they have in the in
place now with a little bit of

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luck, I think you're going,
you're going to see a, I'm not

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going to say, you know, I'm not
predicting any number of wins or

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anything, but I'm saying you're
going to see a difference just

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unfold that that should show
some momentum, should show some

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growth.
So I feel, I feel pretty

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confident in that part.
Got you real quick.

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So as you speak to the
coordinators, obviously Stew

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Holtz now just a special teams
coordinator and kind of helping

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out with the offense, anything
with him in the new set up like?

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Yeah, I, I, I talked to, I
talked to Coach Holt a little

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bit.
And when I say coach Holt, I

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have to mean Stew or his dad,
because I've had a, I've had a

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long running, long running
relationship there with his dad,

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coached against him some when he
was at Rocky Mountain High

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School.
I have to go to the field.

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It's named after him here at *
Mountain High School.

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So I deal a lot with with the
Holts.

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But the the way things have kind
of changed, the way they've kind

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of set up some things, I think
it works out better for him to

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just be focused on his special
team stuff.

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He, I'm sure he misses talking
to his dad, you know, he misses

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position coaching stuff.
Any coach is going to want to

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coach as much as possible, but I
feel like by looking at what we

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saw at practice and stuff, there
was always something involved

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special team wise when other
things were going on.

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Changing structure then change
the structure.

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So your practice structure is
huge and, and we've done some

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things like that, like some
teams will practice, you know,

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offensive ones against scout and
in high school, offensive ones

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against scout, special teams in
the middle, defensive ones

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against scout.
That's how our 2 1/2 three hour

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practice is set up.
We've had it to where, you know,

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varsity's on offense, J VS on
defense and then we can split

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the JV up some at different
times and do some special team

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stuff with them here, special
team stuff with them there.

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And it looked to us, it looked
to me like at practice the other

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day when I saw it, they're
involving more things like

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they're doing certain group
packages in different places,

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while some other guys that would
typically be OK, we're going to

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go to individual stuff, they're
doing a little more special team

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stuff.
OK.

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So they're they're, so he's not
just running around with the

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specialist while these these
individual drills are going on.

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He's maybe maybe pulling a line
here, pulling a line there and

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doing some.
Some special team drill.

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It's not a corner full of
kickers just standing around

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pulling Bryan.
You, you play.

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You played college football.
You know what those kickers do

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over there sometimes?
Oh yeah.

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Oh yeah.
There's.

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Some.
Crab ass.

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There's guys that you know,
they're still getting individual

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times and things like that, but
there's times scheduled for them

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to be during doing certain
special teams things and stuff

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like that.
So it was very much and then

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they would have whole group
special team stuff at times too.

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So you won't see as much of that
and spring game because it's

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more of a game type situation.
But that's definitely something

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that I saw more at practice
where they're they're putting

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more emphasis on special teams
to make sure those things are

445
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,120
right.
Nice.

446
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,800
How do you see the grills where
they checked everybody's

447
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,200
numbers?
There we go, your.

448
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,760
Back's ready to go.
Yeah, and we and we still got

449
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,120
some, you know, opposite,
opposite numbers here.

450
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:25,400
So there's definitely potential
for that to go down.

451
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,720
Again, let me flip back to the
defense real quick because we, I

452
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:34,200
know we, we were kind of curious
about what the, the structure of

453
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,440
Cephus's role kind of in
practice in the, in the room

454
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:45,600
also kind of where Sean Quinn is
kind of fitting in with, with

455
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,480
some of the other coaches that
have been brought on.

456
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,480
What was that dynamic like?
You can talk at a high level

457
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,080
about it.
I'm just trying to trying to

458
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,640
curious how that played out in
in a practice environment.

459
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,760
It's, I think it's kind of a
fluid situation right now, to be

460
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,720
honest.
I, I know each one of them has

461
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,840
their positions and they have
certain specialties.

462
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,440
I think that they're, they're
working with for certain things,

463
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,680
but I think there's some
fluidity to learning the entire

464
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,760
defense as a process.
And I, I think part of that

465
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,720
helped a little, little cameo
there by the wife.

466
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Hey.
Ankle.

467
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,320
So I think, I think part of
that, I mean their positions are

468
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,600
defined and what they are, but I
think they're still trying to

469
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,000
find that identity of matching
the personnel to some of the

470
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,760
things that they want to do,
some of the things that they

471
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:51,240
move around and, and just seeing
how certain things fit.

472
00:29:54,760 --> 00:30:00,440
I spent, I spent time with
obviously in in the, the overall

473
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,600
defensive scheme.
I spent time listening to some

474
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,720
linebacker stuff.
I spent time listening to some,

475
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,920
well, inside linebacker stuff
with Coach DV and then some

476
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:22,120
safety stuff with Coach Prelude.
And it's it's still, I think, I

477
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,320
think they're using the spring
to sort some things out and

478
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:30,320
figure out where their strengths
are, what fits best for the

479
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,680
personnel and things like that.
And it'll be a little more

480
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,480
defined when it comes to the to
camp time.

481
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,560
So it was kind of hard to say,
but that they're all very

482
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,040
involved on teaching the the
basics of what they're looking

483
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,320
for out of the defense.
And they're all, they're all

484
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,320
working together and making sure
that each of their guys with

485
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:00,120
their position group knows
exactly where they fit in the

486
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,360
overall scheme of things.
And I think that's kind of where

487
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,760
it is right now.
And as camp goes on and things

488
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,280
like that, I think they'll
define it a little more.

489
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,360
They'll really figure out who's
got to, who's got to work with

490
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,040
what and who's got to teach what
and things of that nature.

491
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,840
I know that probably doesn't
give you a whole lot, but it's

492
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,040
kind of where it is.
And I.

493
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,200
Like I said, I'm just trying to
like, you know, there's there

494
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,640
seems to be overlap with, you
know, Quinn's role as outside

495
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:37,080
linebackers.
You got Jenny Wilson's role with

496
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,800
edges and then you've got
Whitehead with Nichols.

497
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,440
And I feel like those three at
any given moment could really be

498
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,080
anywhere touch the other one,
right?

499
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,320
So especially in this new
scheme.

500
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:52,120
Well, you heard today, I don't
know if you heard IBM, by the

501
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,760
way, Isaiah Brown, Murray and
and the ECU got, he was talking

502
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,400
about how it's, it's fluid, like
he's working with Whitehead and

503
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,240
he's in Jones and a couple times
he's been with Prelude.

504
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,200
He said that aloud and he said
because he's primarily nickel,

505
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,960
but in some cases it makes more
sense to him to go with the

506
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,560
corners.
In some cases it makes him to

507
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,960
stay with the nickel guy.
In some cases it makes him to go

508
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,280
with Prelude.
So clearly that's happening in

509
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,880
some way, shape or form.
All right, let me let me close

510
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,120
this segment out before we get
into all of the, the positions

511
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,200
you had.
Definitely you had multiple

512
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,280
speakers, but two were high
profile, I mean high, high

513
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:35,120
profile, Bruce Ariens, Super
Bowl winning coach and you had

514
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,400
Darrell Tapp, the current coach
of your Washington team.

515
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,080
I ain't going to take the
manager because they're always

516
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,680
the Redskins.
Did you get to interact with

517
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,760
them any?
Did you get to talk with them?

518
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,400
Any one on ones?
Anything like that?

519
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,280
I I didn't, I didn't carry, I
didn't carry a conversation with

520
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,720
Bruce Ariens.
OK.

521
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,560
He, he had he, he had more than
enough people to carry

522
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,320
conversations with as he was, as
he was very popular.

523
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,200
You know, I, I spoke to him, I
shook his hand.

524
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,720
I, I thank him for, for just
coming up to, to speak with,

525
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,440
with all of us.
He, he is as advertised voice.

526
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,840
He, he's got a he's got a little
swagger to him.

527
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:24,080
He's got a aura to him, you
know, and, and his thing is he,

528
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,920
he, he love, he loves his
players, he loves his, his

529
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:33,560
teams, he cares about people and
he cares about doing things the

530
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,760
right way, you know, loving the
guys, treating people the right

531
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,720
way, but doing things the right
way.

532
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,440
And part of me caring, a part of
him caring about his players and

533
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,560
caring about his people is being
willing to tell them when

534
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,080
they're not doing things the
right way.

535
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,680
And that that was a lot of what
his speech and what he talked

536
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:59,320
about was his exact words was
his job every year is to get 90

537
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,040
dudes and in six weeks fire half
of them.

538
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,639
And to be honest with you, he
goes to be, to have 90 folks and

539
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,800
then six weeks later fire half
of them and they still talk to

540
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,280
you.
He goes, you have to do it a

541
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,280
certain way.
And that kind of stuck.

542
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,040
I don't get to fire none of
mine.

543
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,560
But you know, you, you treat
people a certain way.

544
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,719
And I didn't know what I like.
One of the guys, the guy that

545
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,719
introduced him had talked,
talked to us.

546
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,040
One of the stories he told us
about Coach Ariens as a as a

547
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,800
athlete at Virginia Tech, he was
the and I, I could mess this up

548
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,679
a little bit.
He was the first Virginia Tech

549
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:49,400
athlete to have an African
American roommate.

550
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,480
I.
Think.

551
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:54,239
That's right and.
It was it was, it was Tiki and

552
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,159
Ronde's dad.
Ronde Barber's dad.

553
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,120
Yeah.
He said, he said we're going to

554
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,040
let it slide, that he's a really
good friend of mine and those

555
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,920
two boys went somewhere else.
I thought that was pretty cool

556
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,920
just to to understand the
concept of where he's coming

557
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,760
from with the with the inclusion
of things and stuff like that.

558
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,680
So Bruce Arians was absolutely
as advertised.

559
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,160
I got to I got to talk to to
coach tap a little bit more

560
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,360
Coach Tap and I have a have a
mutual player that both of us

561
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,720
have coached and we got to talk
a little bit about that.

562
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,000
Cantavia St.
He plays for the Atlanta Falcons

563
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,760
now.
He played for Coach Tapp when he

564
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:45,600
was at San Francisco and Coach
Tapp had great things to say

565
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,840
about Kentavious.
Kentavious has always had great

566
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,120
things to say about Coach Tapp
and it was he sucked.

567
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,640
Coach Daryl Tapp is such a down
to earth, personable guy.

568
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,520
Like, he took time out to have a
conversation with me to ask me

569
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,400
how Kentavious was doing, you
know, things like that.

570
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,760
Just to just to be able to
interact with somebody like

571
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:14,040
normal, normal people that
they'd meet a player, a former

572
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,440
player, an NFL coach, you know,
somebody of that caliber.

573
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,600
A lot of people immediately
think, well, he's going to be

574
00:36:22,240 --> 00:36:27,520
kind of standoffish.
And, you know, he's he, he's at

575
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,480
a different level.
He's not that.

576
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,240
He's not that dude.
Like he was there and talked to

577
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:34,760
me for a while.
His wife was at the clinic.

578
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:41,080
She sat right beside me. her and
I talked before, before he

579
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,280
presented.
She sat there and listened to

580
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,520
all the other coaches talk and
was taking notes because I guess

581
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,480
she's coaching wherever they're
wherever they live.

582
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,160
She does some coaching and she
was looking for anything that

583
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,640
she could use in in in her
coaching manners.

584
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,120
So I mean, they were, they were
awesome, awesome pair to meet

585
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:05,640
and we got to sit down and talk
to him a little bit more.

586
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,280
Coach Woteki and I, which is my
head coach, we've been working

587
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,440
together for a while.
He coached Contagious too.

588
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,680
Coach Tapwood would joke with us
and and carry on.

589
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,480
So it was it was pretty cool to
have that kind of interaction

590
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,520
with him.
And they were both there when we

591
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,960
got there that afternoon for the
first day, they spoke, they did

592
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,880
their things.
They were there with everybody

593
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,360
for dinner.
They were that back there the

594
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,360
next day for practice and
everything.

595
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,920
Coach Ariens and Coach Tapp and
all of them were were out there

596
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,280
at practice talking to players,
moving around.

597
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,600
I mean, it just I've been to
clinics where people speak and

598
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,040
then they're immediately out the
door and gone.

599
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,760
But both of them have a little
more buy into the thing as they

600
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,080
but they're both been part of
this team for they're, you know.

601
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,640
All their lives.
Since the 70s.

602
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,400
Oh yeah, so, and I mean, Tap is
one of the he's.

603
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,960
One of our guys, dude.
Carrier man.

604
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,040
It was that guy.
I mean, yeah, that's that's one

605
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,600
of our, we always talk about it
because we had the chance to

606
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,120
interview him years ago.
He's one of our guys.

607
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,480
Like our era, Daryl Tap, Xavier
Devi.

608
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,320
You got to obviously teach you
some things and go over some

609
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:21,920
things with you.
Those two guys, it's

610
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,600
unbelievable that you got to do
that.

611
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,240
And it's cool that to hear the
story of and I'm assuming it's

612
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:30,640
probably around Northern
Virginia or DC where his wife is

613
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:31,960
coaching whatever she's
coaching.

614
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,200
So that's pretty she.
Said it was volleyball.

615
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,080
Pretty sure she was coaching
volleyball now.

616
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:44,760
She's been a like a a personal
trainer and run several

617
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,400
different sports performance
deals in the past.

618
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,800
I know that from from her
background and where they talked

619
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:57,000
about it so, but that was cool.
And then the the other speaker

620
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,080
that they had there was was
Coach Sherman, who is a head

621
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,760
football coach at Fareham now.
Wide receiver.

622
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,720
Coach on the wide receiver,
coach at Virginia Tech.

623
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,680
I met him years ago when I was
taking a couple of our kids from

624
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,240
Halifax to Virginia Tech for
recruiting.

625
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,440
So to hear him talk about
situational stuff, things like

626
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:22,600
that, I got to have another kind
of connection to him as our

627
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,920
quarterback, our first
quarterback from here at North

628
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,480
Wilkes High School as
quarterback at Fareham.

629
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,200
Now he was a starting
quarterback last year at

630
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,880
Fareham.
So he's Coach Sherman starting

631
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,480
quarterback.
He was our starting quarterback

632
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:36,800
here.
So it was it was good to hear

633
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,520
him.
And again, he has that that

634
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:47,080
Virginia Tech tie to it.
And then the, the last guy that

635
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,920
spoke on Saturday morning was
the defensive coordinator for

636
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,000
the University of Richmond,
Justin Wood.

637
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,840
And he did a, he gave a
phenomenal presentation on

638
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,400
inside linebackers that I'm
really trying to use a lot of

639
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,640
the things that he taught to
help give my linebackers some

640
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,760
good basic knowledge and things.
So I mean, All in all, the whole

641
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,120
thing was, was for me very
successful.

642
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,680
I probably got more out of this
clinic than I've gotten out of

643
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,120
one in years.
OK, in those things, so.

644
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,080
That's great.
That is awesome.

645
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,120
Man, I know you.
You know, you talk about Tap and

646
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,480
like every time we've interacted
with Tap, he's like

647
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:30,440
simultaneously the most laid
back guy, but like also so

648
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,520
energetic.
Yes, you can tell he's got

649
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,040
passion about it.
Yeah, I'm.

650
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:36,640
So.
Fascinated about it?

651
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,120
Was was Aryans rocking the
kangle?

652
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,480
Yes, absolutely personalized.
Personally, it had.

653
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,560
It had, what did it say,
Virginia Tech class of 1974,

654
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:53,400
whatever quarterback.
And then on the other side, it

655
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,880
said it had a like the Kangol
with a, with a headset on it,

656
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,520
like for a coaching thing.
And it had some other things on

657
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,160
it.
It was awesome.

658
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:05,280
I mean, he was decked out, dude.
He had completely personalized

659
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,400
either Jordans or Air Force Ones
or Dunks.

660
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,880
They were orange and maroon and
white.

661
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,160
Had who?
And on the back they had BA on

662
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,240
them and they were awesome.
Oh, everybody was.

663
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,720
He was ready.
He he came.

664
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,440
He came prepared.
He knew the assignment.

665
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,200
He knew the assignment.
All righty well, boys, let's

666
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,480
turn it up here.
Robbie, thanks for that little

667
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,040
insight.
And and and in the past you've

668
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,280
given us more, but I think with
what has been said behind closed

669
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,480
doors and everything, not as
much inside as previous, but I

670
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,760
think.
We're we're saying that now.

671
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,600
With respect to with respect to
their staff and allowing us to

672
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:51,160
come and see those things.
I saw some things that, you

673
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:57,880
know, I, I think there would be
great to talk about, but they're

674
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,560
going they're going to be talked
about within in time.

675
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,240
Got you.
They're they want to, they want

676
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:08,440
to keep things close and really
teach things and let it be.

677
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,760
You're going to see some stuff
this week, the spring game,

678
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,120
you're going to see some stuff
more as camp goes on and things

679
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,040
like that.
It's just inevitable.

680
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:22,840
But I think it's going to be
seeing what he's done in the

681
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,280
past with the Cardinals, seeing
what he's done in the past at

682
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,920
Wofford and kind of my thoughts
of putting some of those things

683
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,280
together.
I think it's going to be good,

684
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,400
especially with some of the
things that I saw the other day.

685
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:45,200
And it's, it's definitely going
to be a, a difference in what

686
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,480
you've you're used to seeing,
but in, in a good way, I think.

687
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,200
I think it'll be good for to
have some change to, to see some

688
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,240
different things and especially
the way it's going to be taught

689
00:42:57,240 --> 00:43:00,720
and built and, and have a good
foundation behind it.

690
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,920
Yeah.
I mean, this is really kind of

691
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:08,480
the 1st wholesale defensive
scheme change since Bud kind of,

692
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,280
you know, changed his philosophy
kind of midstream there in the

693
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,440
late. 90s, yeah.
We just say 92.

694
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,320
Yeah.
Before, what was it?

695
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,640
The the guy from Rutgers got
hired and basically said 92 when

696
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,840
we were like, yeah, we were not
8292.

697
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,760
All right, but let's flip, let's
get to the spring game preview.

698
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,400
Let's start talking about some
of these positions.

699
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,120
What we're expecting to see.
Brian will be there.

700
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:35,000
Rob, are you driving back down
or are you staying home next

701
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,360
Saturday this.
Saturday I'll be I'll be doing

702
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,280
some family things on Saturday.
No worries.

703
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,520
Man but I don't get this one
will be televised.

704
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,760
Will it not live?
I think they're going to show

705
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,640
highlights and clips.
It's not going to be a full

706
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,400
broadcast like it was last time,
so.

707
00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,040
Brian can't get too drunk and
he's got to pay attention.

708
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,000
But let's talk about quarterback
room.

709
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,040
It's really funny on the cruise
Wednesday night after we had

710
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,960
both had very good nights at
this new Thursday night.

711
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,520
No Tuesday night what night was
we sat down in the at the

712
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,320
midnight breakfast or midnight
buffet.

713
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,120
We were eating after good nights
and gambling.

714
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,760
We said no, what?
After midnight breakfast.

715
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,960
Oh dude, they had a Baked Alaska
one night for dinner.

716
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,280
They did.
They did.

717
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,600
Take me right back to those 7
college years.

718
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,600
Alaska in seven years.
But The funny thing is, me and

719
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,200
Brian were sitting there.
Brian we're scarfing down pizza

720
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,600
and hot dogs.
We're we're eating terrible, but

721
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,600
it was a good night.
And I said, well, Brian, we we

722
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,520
don't really need to talk about
the quarterbacks.

723
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,960
What do we need to talk about?
Well, until we get back and

724
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,120
literally Karen Drones is out.
So now we must talk about the

725
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,480
quarterbacks.
And I want to ask this to both

726
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,880
of y'all.
Pop's going to get his chance

727
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,200
with the ones get his chance in
the new system.

728
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,200
Do y'all think it's any
possibility of a Wallypip

729
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,440
situation?
Brian Siegler.

730
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,920
If it is, we're going to call it
a Wallypop, right?

731
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,440
Anyway, jokes aside, dad jokes
for days, man.

732
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,000
Let me keep let me keep them out
of here right now.

733
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,320
I don't think so.
I think mainly because I don't

734
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,280
think that what we're looking at
is Kyra going to be out for a

735
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,240
significant amount of time.
If if if you talked about this

736
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:24,680
carrying over into the fall,
there's there's some question

737
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,040
marks there whether that would
be the situation because a lot

738
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,520
of times if you start the
season, you ride the hot hand,

739
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,080
you can get into that situation,
right.

740
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,760
But I don't think this is going
to carry over into the fall.

741
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,000
So I don't think we're ever
going to really get into that

742
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,920
type of situation unless
something, you know, God forbid

743
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,920
goes, goes wrong with the
recovery process, right?

744
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,000
Yeah.
So that that's really my only

745
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,920
concern.
But, you know, by all accounts,

746
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,360
this isn't going to carry into,
yeah, may not even carry in much

747
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,600
into summer workouts, summer
workouts, let alone, you know,

748
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,560
all the way into fall camp.
I kind of feel like, like we, we

749
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,560
saw drones do some things when
we were there.

750
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,360
He participated in, in practices
and stuff and we were there.

751
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:18,520
I think more of this is they got
he, he, I talked earlier about

752
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,680
the luck and all of that.
He had some of the worst luck of

753
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,120
all of them.
They were talking about some of

754
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,520
the injuries and stuff he dealt
with last year and all that.

755
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,840
I think a lot of this is we, we,
we got some good work in.

756
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,840
We got you to understand the
base of a lot of things that's

757
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:40,200
going on now.
We need you to maintain health,

758
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,880
what you've learned and mentally
get that stuff in, take care of

759
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,200
your body and be ready to go
when we need you in camp.

760
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,400
And I think I think that's a lot
had a lot to do with it.

761
00:46:54,120 --> 00:47:00,440
In my opinion, he's probably got
a few things he he may still

762
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,080
need to clean up or or get
checked out and get cleared with

763
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,680
and everything you know from
last season.

764
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,480
But I I think this is just a
kind of a, a make.

765
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:18,680
We do it as high school coaches.
You get your older guys, you

766
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,800
know, you really want to get
your older guys in the beginning

767
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,920
to get their knowledge, get
their base, get their work in

768
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,960
and then give the younger guys
an opportunity to show what they

769
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,760
can do to, to kind of step in
and do things.

770
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,920
And I think it's a very similar
situation here.

771
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,000
It's not taking the risks, not
taking chances of him, you know,

772
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,320
getting hurt.
He's he's got a couple of years

773
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,040
on him.
You want to, you know, to

774
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,200
maintain as much tread as you
can.

775
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,880
Yep.
And see what else you got behind

776
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,480
it, because you never know what
what luck's going to bring.

777
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,720
Like he did last year?
Yeah.

778
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,240
I'm I'm with a bar here.
Just get him healthy.

779
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,720
I think what this does, if
anything, it solidifies Pop's

780
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:03,840
role as the backup.
And he showed last year he could

781
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,320
be put in situations and they
could have chances and games.

782
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,920
And I know everybody will that
and that's what you want.

783
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,400
It's a.
Viable option.

784
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:14,960
Exactly, if something happens
weird like he needs to literally

785
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,280
sit a week like he should have
at Clemson last year, you.

786
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,960
You like get more work with in
there and then like two young

787
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,280
guys or three really that they
can really they really need to

788
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,720
get.
Who's OK?

789
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:29,720
Who'd you?
Who do you like?

790
00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:30,840
Out of those three?
Who who can?

791
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,400
Who can gain the most?
Because now it's basically you

792
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,960
got pop pop probably going to
play maybe 1/4 Saturday with the

793
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,200
ones.
Then it's the next three young

794
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,520
guys who's got the most to gain
or who do you like the most out

795
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,720
of those 3?
I, I I know the.

796
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,120
Bias to to.
There's, there's a, there's a

797
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:55,000
good amount of bias on everyone
in this, this camera shot.

798
00:48:55,000 --> 00:49:00,480
Here, But I mean physically
watching him do some things

799
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,840
there the other day, he looks
good.

800
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,600
I knew he can play.
I've known his dad for years.

801
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,960
Somebody AJ Brand.
Everybody.

802
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,040
I've watched the kid play since
he was a young kid.

803
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,520
I've seen him play different
things, basketball, football.

804
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:23,880
He's an athlete.
And I, I definitely think it's

805
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,920
a, it's a whole new process
coming from high school into

806
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,680
college.
The fact that he's already there

807
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,360
helps him.
He get the system that he

808
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,520
learned through high school is
going to help him.

809
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,920
And I think he's, you're going
to see some flashes of good

810
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,200
things physically.
I mean, he's well built, like

811
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,440
standing beside drones at
different times.

812
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,760
And it was, you know, you take
the jersey numbers off of them,

813
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,440
they put their helmets on.
It's kind of hard to see a

814
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,400
difference in in them for so
much.

815
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,520
Physically, they're very, very
similar.

816
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,280
Well, I feel like I feel like
when we look at them like brands

817
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:13,240
very much in the drones bowl and
you know, talking about another

818
00:50:13,240 --> 00:50:16,440
1 Kelvin Ryan very much looks
like a a a taller, slightly

819
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,080
heavier pop Watson as far as the
weight.

820
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:24,400
Good possibility, yeah.
And even even the bill for kid

821
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,240
moves around and does some
things.

822
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,840
I feel very similar to what
Watson did when he first got to

823
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:37,680
tattoo.
He he is definitely not the the

824
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,920
large physical specimen that
that Bran and drones are.

825
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,600
He he's on the smaller side.
But I mean, he's a shifty.

826
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,200
He's shifty quick.
Don't let don't let the smaller

827
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,520
fool you, because with the with
the strength and conditioning

828
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,520
program, it'll get him up.
I mean, Oh yeah, Pop says he's

829
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,760
at 205 now, and he says he's
gained like 6 lbs since Ferg

830
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,960
took over.
So that's.

831
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:09,840
I mean, oh, that interview.
Oh, well, you he, he's thick.

832
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,080
He is now he's 511.
He's 205.

833
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,240
He is thick.
Brian, me and you have said for

834
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,520
the last three years, what's the
one worry about Pop?

835
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,240
He ain't going to be able to
just take punishment after

836
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:22,920
punishment.
I don't feel that way anymore.

837
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,440
I don't feel that way anymore.
Noticeably bigger from last

838
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,960
year.
Who's who'd you see as far as

839
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,160
the throwing?
Like who?

840
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,560
Who was slinging it the most out
of those younger guys?

841
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,840
All of them got that, got good
opportunities to throw balls and

842
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,600
to put and to throw.
But for what I can remember,

843
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,640
they didn't throw anything
really deep.

844
00:51:54,800 --> 00:52:00,360
They get a lot they get a lot of
one-on-one type stuff and yoland

845
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,480
one on ones, red zone type, one
on ones, stuff like that.

846
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:09,960
With quarterbacks, they were
doing a lot of a lot of short

847
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,560
yardage type stuff, you know,
quick game type stuff.

848
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:19,320
But I, I feel like all of them
were pretty accurate.

849
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,240
Belfort had to move a little bit
more simply because he had to

850
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:26,680
find windows to kind of throw
through.

851
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:34,760
Watson has the arm strength and
the and the the mechanics to

852
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,440
kind of get the ball where he
needs to without having to move

853
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:43,040
around too much where the other
the other two or three kind of

854
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,160
have a little bit more size that
they don't have to move, but

855
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,440
they can.
And it's really interesting to

856
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,760
see just how they break up the
number of reps and things with

857
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,040
this spring game to just kind
of, you know, everybody's going

858
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,520
to be looking at, yeah, drones
isn't going to play.

859
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,120
How many is Pop going to get
with the ones?

860
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,440
Because obviously he's going to
he's your first guy to go with

861
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:15,960
the ones And if anybody else
gets any kind of reps with the

862
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,680
ones, which one's it going to be
of those three it's.

863
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,200
Going to be interesting to see.
That which one of those 3 is

864
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:27,800
trotting out there opposite of
Pop with the twos that they

865
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,480
obviously see as the the next
guy there.

866
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,360
You know, there's always going
to be some speculation and one

867
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,520
may come out there with that
group and then we find out later

868
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,920
that they felt a lot better
about the other one.

869
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,160
Yeah, you just always have, I
think the interesting.

870
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:45,640
Piece.
It'll tell you some things

871
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,600
depending on who gets more reps
where.

872
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,720
I think the interesting piece if
you look at all three of those

873
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:54,080
guys that the freshman and I
know Davi's been here a year,

874
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,120
but if you look at their high
school senior in high school,

875
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:01,080
they all threw almost all threw
at 2500 yards all threw well

876
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:06,000
above 25 plus touchdowns all
threw well below, you know, in

877
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:11,680
well low interception numbers.
So to me that has been the

878
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,080
evolution of just the high
school to college quarterbacks

879
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:20,800
nowadays is years ago, if a if a
guy got 10 attempts a game could

880
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,360
be a good pass, but that was it
because of what the offensive

881
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:28,120
were were changed now where all
these guys got over 200 plus

882
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:33,280
attempts over 2500 yards over 25
touchdowns passes, which just

883
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,120
shows you the change in the
game, which is obviously why

884
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,000
you've got guys who can be
sophomores take over the reins

885
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,080
of a college program and run it
for two to three years because

886
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:44,920
because the passing is is
evolutionized.

887
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:50,240
All right, let's flip to the big
one, because this is the one

888
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:54,560
that I think is going to hinge.
I think it hinges Brent Price

889
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,680
future at Virginia Tech.
I see offensive line.

890
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,720
Obviously Matt Moore's in and I
think straight up Brian, we've

891
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:04,000
said it Thomas remack for all
discussion point.

892
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,600
He's locked.
He is playing somewhere on the

893
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,000
offensive line.
Don't know where yet, but we

894
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,480
know where he's playing.
Brian, they what?

895
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:14,120
Right.
Huh.

896
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,560
He's 55, right?
20 transfers from.

897
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,840
Yeah, West.
Virginia, West Virginia 55, that

898
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,560
is him 66317.
All right.

899
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,280
But let me ask, let me pivot to
you, Brian, on this.

900
00:55:27,720 --> 00:55:31,600
Of the two other transfers,
Lucas Austin, Kyle Luttner, who

901
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,240
do you got?
Who do you like?

902
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:35,360
You're sitting here saying I got
to see something from him

903
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,720
Saturday or my confidence is
going to potentially go down on

904
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,160
the offensive line.
Which of those two?

905
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,400
Al Tuner, just because he's
playing the world position, he's

906
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,280
probably going to be the guy
that's going to have to be 1 of

907
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,680
the starters in this group, in
my opinion.

908
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,320
I I think, you know, you're
looking at him probably at

909
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:58,680
center and if it's not center,
he's probably going to be

910
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,800
playing one of the guard spots
there.

911
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,960
So he's the guy that you're
going to need to see something

912
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:08,480
from pretty early I think in
this game to start having some

913
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,800
confidence about this offensive
line turning the turn to the

914
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,960
table.
Because I think I think we feel

915
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,400
good about what what Remack can
do.

916
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,000
You know, whether it's right or
left in the in the tackle slot

917
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:24,960
there looks like he is going to
be slotted in at one of the

918
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,320
tackle spots.
Whether he's on the left, it's

919
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,880
either going to be him or Johnny
on one side or the other.

920
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:35,080
So I think Altooner's definitely
the guy that, you know, if

921
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,720
you're going to see the rest of
that line kind of flesh out,

922
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:41,720
he's the guy that needs to, you
got to feel confident about him,

923
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,200
especially at that center
position.

924
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:48,120
All tuners, another one from
West Virginia if I remember

925
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,600
correctly.
He's got experience playing all

926
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,320
three of the interior positions
right?

927
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,320
Both guards and center.
Yeah.

928
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,360
That, that's to me as a coach,
that's huge.

929
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:07,360
To have a guy that can play
multiple positions like that, it

930
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,880
is awesome.
Especially as young as the, I

931
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,720
mean, just a red shirt freshman.
But he had some, you know, he

932
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:20,320
saw some action, yeah, you know,
last year and was was pretty

933
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,400
successful in, in, in kind of
limited, limited action there.

934
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,240
And you're definitely a guy that
I think Matt Moore thought a

935
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:30,240
whole lot of yeah, before he
got, you know, before he got

936
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,800
injured last year. 100% All
right, what?

937
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,640
What about the current guys?
Don't let's take the transfers

938
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:37,840
out.
What guys?

939
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,520
Guys that they have returning
that played some significant

940
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,520
time all.
Right, So significant time last

941
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,120
year.
You have the following and I'll

942
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:54,280
pivot to Ganam, Bob Shit, Brody
Meadows, Johnny Garrett are the

943
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,160
four that had significant snaps.
Montavious Cunningham had some

944
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:02,600
snaps, not as many.
So you have five guys with

945
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,600
significant experience.
What which one of those guys to

946
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,280
you, Robbie, you feel like that
guy's got to pop Saturday, that

947
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,640
guy.
I want to see something.

948
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,560
So again, it starts alleviating
like it's going to be like it

949
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,600
was at times last year.
Like Brian was talking about

950
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:23,080
before, you've got, you've got
alter, they're coming in, he's

951
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:24,760
got it.
He's got to fill one of those

952
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,880
three spots.
Then you've got a guy that

953
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:32,440
played a lot in, in shit who
could step into the guard spot

954
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,800
that could help.
I mean, he, he's got game

955
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:38,720
experience, how fast he picks up
what they're doing.

956
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,840
I think, I think it could fit in
there.

957
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:47,400
I think by the end of last year
they were they had Cunningham

958
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:53,120
playing some guard stuff.
He he would have now experience

959
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:57,680
at guard and tackle which makes
him a little more valuable in a

960
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:02,840
lot of things.
And then was in Meadows and.

961
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,040
Garrett Garrett in Ganon, he.
Was going to have to take that

962
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,560
other tackle spot if we think
Reback is the is one of the

963
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:19,640
tackles.
So I mean, I would, I would say

964
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:27,920
Meadows and Garrett and and
Cunningham and Schick have to

965
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,600
fill in the remaining guard and
tackle spot there somewhere.

966
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,760
And if Altuner goes to to
center, then you may be needing

967
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:42,000
2 guards there.
So I mean, I think it's AI think

968
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,200
it's a decent crowd to be able
to kind of work with and and put

969
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:51,240
things in.
I know in in the bowl game and

970
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,360
towards the end of last year was
it got Nina.

971
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,360
Yeah.
He got a, he got a good bit of

972
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,680
playing time towards the end
and, and things like that.

973
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,120
I'm, I think he's back.
I mean, they've got, they've got

974
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,920
some options there of guys that
have some experience in multiple

975
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:12,480
positions.
Which is Brian and I both know

976
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,960
was huge on the offensive line.
You got a guy that you know can

977
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,120
play multiple positions.
It makes you feel a lot better

978
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,000
about things.
Yeah.

979
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:25,520
I mean, you feel like you can
offensive line, you're at some

980
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,880
point you're going to have one
or two injuries pop up

981
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,960
throughout the year where you're
going to have to lean on one or

982
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,920
two guys.
And if you got guys that can

983
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,520
play multiple positions, you can
keep your best five out there

984
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:41,120
remaining without having to to
shuffle too much, whether that's

985
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,320
having a frontline guy slide
from a guard to a tackle or

986
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,920
whether that's a guy that's
playing a reserve role that can

987
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,160
plug in at guard or tackle,
depending on who goes down.

988
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:54,600
And really, you know, center
being the the biggest wild card

989
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,240
there because you know, you, you
generally get only going to have

990
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,720
two to three guys on your roster
that you feel really comfortable

991
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,840
with snapping the football.
And so that's usually where

992
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,800
you're going to be the tightest.
Another thing to look at which

993
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,520
you really have, we really
haven't had a lot to talk about

994
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:14,080
in the last couple years with
offensive line is there's

995
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,760
there's a young guy or two there
that have have come in, you

996
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:24,400
know, recruit wise that I I
think just by seeing him by him,

997
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,000
I would say walking by me, but
kind of towering over and the

998
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,480
clip and everything that he
walked by when he walked by me.

999
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:37,760
The The star kid is a large
piece of human being that's.

1000
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,520
A big boy.
That is a big boy.

1001
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:46,200
Yeah.
And you know, development, I

1002
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:50,040
think obviously as we've seen
with the guys that came over

1003
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,160
from West Virginia, they're
younger players that have

1004
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,920
already developed into something
that we like and that we think

1005
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,000
can play.
I feel good about how more can

1006
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,480
develop younger guys that are
there and and be able to recruit

1007
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:08,880
some guys that he can develop
into into into well-rounded

1008
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,400
players for his system.
So we got that too and I'm I'm

1009
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,640
excited about cause called
Garnet.

1010
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,840
That boy was big, yeah.
Yeah, listen, y'all mentioned

1011
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,880
all the names and who we're
going to see and whatnot.

1012
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:26,440
What I just want to see is I
want the interior to be good

1013
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,320
because I think there's been too
many years.

1014
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:34,040
The last, it feels like the last
15 years where third and two

1015
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,080
there was a struggle to get 2
yards.

1016
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,440
I want the best interior.
And if it's altooner at center,

1017
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,960
I kind of sit here and hope
because you know, you see the

1018
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,360
way Brody Meadows plays, he
plays all out, he goes through

1019
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,200
the whistle, he drives guys
away.

1020
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:55,040
And I, and I'm hoping he and
Cunningham can win those two

1021
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,680
spots because I feel like
looking at them that they are

1022
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,840
the most physical presence on
the inside.

1023
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,920
And I think that would help the
short yardage that it feels like

1024
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:09,080
we just could not gain unless
it's like Kyron drones or Logan

1025
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,840
Thomas 32 guys, just stick your
head in there and just run

1026
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,880
straight ahead because that's
all we got.

1027
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:17,800
We don't have any concept to
actually block and get positive

1028
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,640
yards on short yards place.
Yeah, and I'm interested to see

1029
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,720
if if Gannon takes a step this
year because I mean, he started

1030
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,800
last year, was injured pretty
early and didn't really get a

1031
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,240
chance to kind of really show
what he could do.

1032
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,440
You know, the fact that he kind
of was a new face on the line,

1033
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:39,600
kind of won that spot, kept kept
shick off the field for a little

1034
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,080
bit there that that tells you
that he's he, you know, they

1035
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,320
showed a little bit of
confidence in him last year.

1036
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,320
I'm hoping that that carries
over and you know, he's he gets

1037
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,200
healthy and takes some big steps
this year.

1038
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,280
It's true.
And look at the West Virginia

1039
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,320
kid that Matt Moore did try to
get.

1040
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,120
Yeah, so I did.
Try to get.

1041
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,840
I think he's a guy that would
be, you know, in a in a good

1042
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:04,640
line there and then, you know,
centre, like I've already talked

1043
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,200
about Altuner, but you know,
Robbie, you brought up Neda and

1044
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:12,640
then we also have Tommy Ricard
in there that, you know, you

1045
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:14,280
know, could be fighting for that
spot there.

1046
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,840
So we got, you have three guys
that you know, you don't

1047
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,480
necessarily feel good about.
You got one guy that you you're

1048
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,120
hoping is going to be the truth
and you got a couple other guys

1049
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,240
you're like, all right, if they
can, they can develop a little

1050
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,600
bit.
Maybe those those guys could be

1051
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,000
in the mix as well.
It'll be another one of those

1052
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,240
situations just like we talked
about at quarterback.

1053
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:38,160
It's just seeing who that first
group is and how they work

1054
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,600
together and then seeing what
their thought process is of who

1055
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,200
comes in next or who goes in
with that second group.

1056
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:50,280
And just, you know, trying to
piece it together and, and see

1057
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:54,840
do do they have a group that
they they take out with the ones

1058
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:58,200
to protect when they know they
have to and then they have a

1059
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,080
group with the twos?
Or do they have a group that

1060
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,360
they go out first and then they
start pulling one guy and

1061
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:07,600
putting another guy in to see
how that group works together.

1062
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:12,120
Just this thought process on
that will give you in my mind,

1063
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,880
will give you more of an idea
of, OK, these are the guys and

1064
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:18,400
these are the guys he's
developing and then we can use

1065
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,760
or if, hey, we're going to find
the Best Buy.

1066
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,160
It might be taking this guy out,
putting this guy in or moving

1067
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:29,840
this guy over here and putting
one in here, that kind of thing.

1068
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,640
I think that's going to be a
telling story of what you're

1069
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,880
seeing, too.
Yeah, Robbie and you, you know,

1070
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:40,200
from experience, man, there's,
there's the best 5 talent and

1071
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,120
then there's the best 5 as a
unit.

1072
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:43,480
And those are two different
things.

1073
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:44,800
Sometimes.
Always.

1074
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,400
Is.
Always is.

1075
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,480
All right, let's flip over.
Let's go to the outside and to

1076
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,320
the other two.
Two of the skill positions.

1077
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,680
Brian.
Oh, no, yeah, Brian.

1078
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,600
Skill position wise, wide
receiver, tight ends, who are

1079
01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,960
you focused on the most?
Like you're going to be sitting

1080
01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:03,320
in lane and obviously you don't
look at quarterback, but I know

1081
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,240
Brian Lee, he'll he'll watch
quarterback, he'll focus line,

1082
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,680
then he'll look on the outside.
So when you focusing on the

1083
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:14,120
outside, who you focusing on?
We just talked about receiver

1084
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,560
group in general.
I'm I'm looking at.

1085
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,320
Cam receiver.
Tight end receiver, Yeah.

1086
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:18,960
I'm looking at, I'm looking at
Cam Seldon.

1087
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:23,840
I want to see that running back
in a wide receiver frame,

1088
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,480
hopefully channelling as much
Jalen Lane as we can so we can

1089
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:32,480
keep that that train moving.
But that's the that's the type

1090
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:38,600
of slot receiver that I like is
a basically a running back that

1091
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,400
is lining up wide.
The guy that has those running

1092
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,920
back instincts that when they
get the ball in their hands,

1093
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,240
they have that mentality though,
they're going to run by your run

1094
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,960
over here and sometimes in equal
measure.

1095
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,360
How?
About you Robbie, what are you

1096
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,720
focusing on with that group?
Physically, from being there,

1097
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,640
from being there, watching
practice and things.

1098
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,600
Physically, Selden, which it was
#9.

1099
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,360
Yeah.
Physically, he he has a presence

1100
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:14,440
it kind of thinking back a few
years, I I go back to a game

1101
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:20,400
against South Carolina and and a
gentleman who I'm sorry, Curtis,

1102
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:24,800
but is now a commander.
Best for all parties.

1103
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,480
Devo Samuel, he kind of gives me
that vibe a little bit.

1104
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,320
OK, I'm going to make a move.
You bite on the move, I'm going

1105
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,160
to get yards after the catch.
If you don't bite on the move

1106
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,720
and stand my ground, I'm going
to get yards after the catch.

1107
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:44,600
You know, Do you want to take
this shot or not?

1108
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,440
That's up to you.
I feel like watching him

1109
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,640
physically, that's the kind of
player he's going to be, which

1110
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:56,600
I'm in love with.
He he he's definitely one to see

1111
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:03,480
after the after the bowl game
and then watching him run at

1112
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:04,920
things at practice the other
day.

1113
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:12,720
Aiden Green, if he if he gets
space and gets he can break out.

1114
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,440
There ain't many of them
catching him, bud.

1115
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,920
It's not a lot.
I'm gonna flip it.

1116
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,880
Before that, boys quit.
He is.

1117
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,880
I'm going to flip it on y'all
the where I'm most interested.

1118
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,240
I'm going to be focused on with
the highlights and probably talk

1119
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,359
to Brian about it.
I want to see what they do with

1120
01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:30,240
the Titans, especially Benji
Gosnell.

1121
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,200
Benji Gosnell was the second
leader and receiver on this team

1122
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:35,600
last year.
If you look at Philip

1123
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:40,760
Montgomery's history, the most I
saw was with Baylor and the

1124
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,920
Robert Griffin back when he won
the Heisman.

1125
01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:48,200
They had a guy 20 and I got 15.
That's not a lot.

1126
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,520
Now today, Brent Davis comes out
and says they're really focused

1127
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,520
on being physical, get the
blocking concepts down.

1128
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,359
That's what I'm paying attention
to.

1129
01:08:56,359 --> 01:09:00,960
Because you go back to what they
recruited at Baylor.

1130
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:03,680
They never had that.
They never had someone like

1131
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,399
Benji who could catch the ball.
Who did ask him physicality

1132
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,439
does.
He shifted in a way where it

1133
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,359
says, well, I've got one of
these guys now, does he shift it

1134
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:14,840
and say I want him to block?
Good.

1135
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:18,200
But I've got Nell, an extra
potential weapon on the in line

1136
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,720
because we know Benji can go in
line.

1137
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:23,359
He can go, you know he not I'm
not going to say he's going to

1138
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:26,439
be in the backfield any, but he
can do a variety of things.

1139
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:27,600
He'll be in the.
Backfield some.

1140
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:32,279
He can be, but he will.
That's OK.

1141
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,080
Write it down for Brian Siegler
I.

1142
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:42,240
My thought is I think Gosnell is
a could be a very integral part

1143
01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:47,880
in what they try to do with some
with the run game and not as a

1144
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:51,920
not as a back carrying things.
He had some experience before

1145
01:09:52,520 --> 01:10:00,680
and in that H back type role
that what we call what we call

1146
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:06,040
what some people call a yo
technique that offset tight end,

1147
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,880
you know inside between the
guard and tackle sniffer.

1148
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,160
You know your kick out blocker,
your your split zone player.

1149
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:14,880
Split zone?
Yep.

1150
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:16,840
That's he has experience doing
that.

1151
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,680
The coach that he played for his
senior year in high school

1152
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,760
before he hurt his knee, he
played some stuff like that.

1153
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,200
He knows that position.
It's about him buying in to,

1154
01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:35,800
hey, understanding you can be
exceptional for us by maybe

1155
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:40,920
catching 15 balls and certain
things and being this monster

1156
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:44,360
that we have doing this kick
out, running this power, doing

1157
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:49,920
these things and may not be the,
you know, 40 or 50 catch,

1158
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,120
Gronkowski, Kelsey type of
thing.

1159
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:57,160
We know he can do that.
We know he can be that guy, but

1160
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:01,040
will he buy into?
Maybe I can do that later?

1161
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,480
As long as I can show I can do
this, it makes myself even more

1162
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:07,360
versatile going out.
Yeah, and he's shown that what

1163
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:10,680
he can do.
So I mean, I think if, if he can

1164
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:15,200
develop his tool kit where he
can show he's, he's both, he's

1165
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:18,520
like, he's that true
well-rounded tight end that you

1166
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,280
can count on to block in the
running game, but you can also

1167
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,080
line up in the slot and have a
mismatch and be able to take

1168
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:26,720
advantage of that.
Absolutely.

1169
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,640
As a coach, when you see a kid
out there working his butt off,

1170
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,960
doing the things you asked him
to do and he's balled into doing

1171
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,040
the things that we've asked him
to make this team better.

1172
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,280
A coach starts to get to, you
know what I need, I need to, I

1173
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,800
need to give him something for
the work that he's done.

1174
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,480
And maybe that's where it goes
from 15 or 20 catches to 30,

1175
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,840
because he's shown his
willingness to do everything

1176
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,800
else the right way.
Like Bruce Arias talked about,

1177
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:58,480
you have to reward the people
that are doing things the right

1178
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:00,120
way.
You have to show them that you

1179
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,960
care about that stuff.
Got you.

1180
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,240
How?
He earns some of that stuff.

1181
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,360
Let me ask both you all this,
because the one thing is with

1182
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,920
the Montgomery and Bryant and
y'all, we talked about it

1183
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,240
earlier about, you know, the
concepts and what you're going

1184
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,280
to see.
And people have been searching

1185
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,240
Montgomery's offenses all the
time.

1186
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,480
Do you pay attention to route
concepts at a game like this or

1187
01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:23,880
is it it's it's too vanilla.
They're going to be doing a lot

1188
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:28,560
of basic stuff Or is it pay
attention So you know, you see

1189
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:32,080
who's running because the one
thing he likes to run flats, he

1190
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:34,080
likes to run drags, he likes to
run stuff.

1191
01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:37,440
Who's running those routes?
Is it worth paying attention to?

1192
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:39,200
Or is it?
Don't.

1193
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:43,640
Don't buy too much into it.
Personally, I would say you look

1194
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:48,520
at the routes more than.
The players running the routes

1195
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,000
got you.
And the fact that you're going

1196
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:58,600
to the the game, you simplify
the game to the point where you

1197
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,640
have a route tree.
There's certain routes that

1198
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,000
every team's going to run.
They're going to run the

1199
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,320
verticals, they're going to run
the slants, they're going to run

1200
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,760
the post or they're going to
run, you know, the digs, the

1201
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,160
ends, the outs, those kind of,
it's in every route tree, no

1202
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:16,600
matter whether you go from from
peewee football to the NFL.

1203
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:22,600
And it's how they, it's how they
use those things in spacing and,

1204
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,760
and what they're doing with
certain things, in my opinion,

1205
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,920
yeah.
It's, it's, it's it really in

1206
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:33,040
looking at it at a in a micro
level, what are the combinations

1207
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,240
of the routes, not necessarily
what's in the tree.

1208
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,800
And I mean, looking at that,
like, I think, I think also you

1209
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,880
can look at and pay attention to
maybe what you don't see.

1210
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,200
And I know Robbie, we talked
about this a little bit too,

1211
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,080
like I don't think we're going
to see as much behind the line

1212
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,960
of scrimmage stuff.
So I think that's something to

1213
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,760
look, look for and pay attention
and and make sure that you don't

1214
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,040
see that because I don't think
you're going to see as much of

1215
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:00,280
that in this offense as we saw
an entire Tyler Bowen offense.

1216
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:06,200
This style of offense plays
into, you know it all.

1217
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,480
It's always going to have a
check down.

1218
01:14:07,480 --> 01:14:09,320
There's going to be closer to
the line of scrimmage.

1219
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:15,560
Yeah, you're going to have some
screen game stuff, but it's it's

1220
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:19,960
not going to be I don't feel
like you're going to personal

1221
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,440
opinion, knowing the off the
offense as it is, you're not

1222
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:29,320
going to see as many of the pop
screens to the single receiver

1223
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,440
and saying, hey, you got a
one-on-one match up, beat him,

1224
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,520
you know, on the move and get
four or five yards.

1225
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:43,640
I feel like this offense pushes
more to get to four or five

1226
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,320
yards and catch the ball and
then see what you can get

1227
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:50,520
afterwards.
I think that's the basis of this

1228
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,960
offense more.
It is for us.

1229
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,440
Our style offense is very
similar to what Montgomery runs

1230
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:04,520
or has run in the past and I
feel like we throw a lot of what

1231
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:09,320
we look at as quick game.
We want to get routes in the

1232
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,640
five to seven yard range and
then everything you get after

1233
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,400
that as a plus, but we're going
to get that you're.

1234
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:20,160
Going to get you're setting
yourself up for success if you

1235
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:22,680
get 5 and it's second and five
that you can do anything on the

1236
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:27,120
field you want and it's still
not a if.

1237
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:31,160
If if you don't hit on 2nd down,
thirds is still not that far

1238
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:32,720
away.
Let's go to run.

1239
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:34,560
Oh, let me say something real
quick.

1240
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:40,040
We talked about Benji's catch
numbers with Bowen compared to

1241
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:41,840
what we might see with
Montgomery.

1242
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:47,560
I, I will say this, you know, a
lot of the catches that Benji

1243
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:51,280
Benji flagged last year and,
and, and just any tight end in,

1244
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,960
in, in that Tyler Bowen system,
So many of those were those

1245
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,120
behind the line of scrimmage
catches, those at the line of

1246
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:02,200
scrimmage catches.
I, I think when you do have the

1247
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,520
tight end involved in the
passing game, they're going to

1248
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:12,440
be more effective routes for,
for the tight end, meaning that

1249
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:17,160
it's not going to be having to
rely on motion to kind of get

1250
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:20,360
some, some separation, those
quick catches and having to let

1251
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,200
them turn up and, and hopefully
break a tackle to kind of get

1252
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,640
some action in the passing game.
It's going to be a little bit

1253
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,640
more deliberate with how they
use them in the passing game.

1254
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,480
Gotcha, gotcha.
All right, go to running

1255
01:16:33,480 --> 01:16:35,560
backroom.
Stewart's not here.

1256
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,720
We've been told guys are banged
up.

1257
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:45,000
I mean, PJ Prelude not playing
Coney was hurt.

1258
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:50,160
Tyler Mason Overton's hurt.
I mean, do we just take just

1259
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:51,360
grain of salt with that room?
I.

1260
01:16:53,480 --> 01:16:58,920
Feel like it's going to be
interesting to see and, and I

1261
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,000
would tell you to watch this
group of running backs that's

1262
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,560
going to get an opportunity to
play OK 'cause they've got

1263
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:11,680
something.
Because in my opinion, you lost

1264
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:15,960
the running back Room 0.
Got you.

1265
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,200
Oh yeah.
When you lose Tooting and you

1266
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:24,640
lose Thomas, you had you had
other guys that filled in, but

1267
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:26,520
each one of them filled in in
their own way.

1268
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:34,880
Tony Prelude Mason, who played
more in the bowl game then then

1269
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:41,360
I really expected to see.
But then you add the Stewart.

1270
01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:48,600
Can you add the Hawkins kid from
was it in Oklahoma?

1271
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,960
Somewhere out in Oklahoma.
He's from Oklahoma, I think it's

1272
01:17:52,440 --> 01:17:53,480
Missouri.
Some D2IN.

1273
01:17:53,480 --> 01:17:57,800
Missouri, yeah.
Look, he was, he impressed me a

1274
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:02,960
little bit at practice the the
path level and the way he runs

1275
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:08,440
the ball like he's a physical,
like he runs like he hates the

1276
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:13,520
ground he's running on.
Like, I mean, he, he won hard

1277
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:16,000
and physical.
And I think that's interesting

1278
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:21,680
to see.
Mason showed us that he can do

1279
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:26,760
some things in that spring game.
I mean, in that bowl game coming

1280
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:30,360
into the spring game, he he
looks to be bigger, he looks to

1281
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:35,160
be more physical.
And it'll be interesting to to

1282
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:40,680
think about how when Tooting
went out last year, it was

1283
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,480
Malachi Thomas.
And then we got to hope some

1284
01:18:45,480 --> 01:18:50,040
other guys can can take a couple
carries and help us to now it

1285
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:55,720
seems almost like I feel like
there's there could be 5 or 6 at

1286
01:18:55,720 --> 01:19:00,320
some point that you could say,
hey, we can put in and give 5 or

1287
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:04,920
10 carriers to and be good.
So we we could be going from the

1288
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:06,840
lead back to having a running
back back committee.

1289
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:12,640
Yes and yeah, I, I think.
You're still going to see when

1290
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:16,800
when he gets here, Stewart kind
of being the lead back, but that

1291
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,880
I think there's going to be
there's going to be that 2A2B2,

1292
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:25,520
probably 2C behind him.
I think you got AI think you got

1293
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,680
a crowd there.
They're going to, they're going

1294
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:33,200
to have a little bit to say
about, hey, if he thinks he's

1295
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,760
going to come in and beat the
lead back, we want a little

1296
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,000
input on this thing on.
There we go.

1297
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,560
And they're going to show it.
That's going to make him better

1298
01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:42,600
too.
That's going to make the whole

1299
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:47,040
team better, so. 100% I'm, I'm,
I'm, I feel good about that.

1300
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,920
If there, there are a lot of
question marks of just how

1301
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:55,520
that's going to work, but I'm
optimistic with with what I've

1302
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:00,320
seen and what's there.
All right, all right, let's flip

1303
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:01,400
over.
Let's talk a little bit on the

1304
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:04,600
defense and let's obviously
start with the safety room.

1305
01:20:06,440 --> 01:20:10,480
I mean, it's it feels loaded
between the guys who were here

1306
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:13,840
last year, the transfers that
came in understanding see if the

1307
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:18,760
system being 3 high.
But is there anybody, Brian will

1308
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:22,040
start with you, Is there anybody
to you that has to pass your eye

1309
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:27,800
test on Saturday?
Anybody that's got to pass the

1310
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:33,720
eye test?
I'm interested to see what Tyson

1311
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,520
Flowers looks like.
OK.

1312
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:43,800
Because he, I think he's the guy
that was the most inconsistent

1313
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,240
in the tape that I looked at.
But when he looked good, he

1314
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,720
looked real good.
But he was very inconsistent.

1315
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:54,280
If, if he's a guy that can come
in and show that, you know, he's

1316
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,440
probably leveled some of that
out a little bit.

1317
01:20:57,600 --> 01:21:00,000
I think that'll go a long way
just because we got we got a

1318
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,880
handful of guys, you know,
between Cash coming in, you got

1319
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:08,040
obviously Reddish kind of being
the, as weird as it sounds,

1320
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:12,440
elder statesman in the room from
an experience standpoint it

1321
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:17,520
yeah, with this team, with this
team, yeah.

1322
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,240
It's it's going to be
interesting to see how these new

1323
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,880
guys work in there.
But Tyson flowers to me just

1324
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,240
because I saw some
inconsistencies and if he can

1325
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,680
iron some of that out, that
would that would be huge for

1326
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,160
this room.
I think Isaiah Cash is going to

1327
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:35,200
be a player.
How much and how we deploy him

1328
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:39,280
is going to be what I want to
see just within see because it's

1329
01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:44,520
overall system.
And I keep I keep looking back

1330
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:46,960
at my my roster card thing, man
you.

1331
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,800
Need to give us that.
No, tell me on.

1332
01:21:49,040 --> 01:21:52,120
Saturdays I look at, I try to
figure out the number because

1333
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:56,040
for me out there I was seeing
numbers and numbers were the

1334
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,920
what what clicked to me.
So I'm trying to figure out

1335
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:05,120
who's who.
But while you figure I'm going

1336
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,720
to tell you, for me, I want to
see how Quinn Reddish does in

1337
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,040
the system.
He showed so much as a true

1338
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:15,160
freshman last year, putting into
a role being put in when when

1339
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:18,280
Lil Strowman got hurt, he was
forced to play.

1340
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,480
He was not supposed to play last
year and he looked good at

1341
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:23,280
times.
He laid licks.

1342
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:29,160
I want to see how a system that
is designed to be to to make

1343
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,600
safeties the stars, because to
me that's what it does, right?

1344
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,360
We keep saying Buddha Baker, we
keep seeing other things where

1345
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:40,040
it's like the safeties are
really high level of this.

1346
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,800
How can a kid who played like
that now get put into a system?

1347
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,080
Where is he lining up?
Because we know it could be 3

1348
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,960
highs.
He is he still playing a strong?

1349
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,800
Is there another position that,
you know, I would say like a

1350
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:54,840
Rover, but a lot of people said
a Rover strong.

1351
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,760
But to me Rover was always that
movable piece in the chess game,

1352
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,400
right?
It can kind of go anywhere and

1353
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,840
do different things.
Is he playing that or is he back

1354
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:04,280
at free?
That's what I'm interested in.

1355
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:11,000
What about you?
Rob I mean, it'll be like, I

1356
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:15,840
know with their system and I, I,
I play a system that's somewhat

1357
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:23,320
similar to this.
We run more of a AA3334 kind of

1358
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,000
hybrid.
Look, there's times where we can

1359
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,920
look like we have 3 safeties.
There's time.

1360
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:37,400
And technically the, the, that
3334 hybrid system is considered

1361
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,800
one of the the three safety
defenses.

1362
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,520
There's a lot of times that I
line up on the field and you

1363
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,080
have to know what you're looking
at to see 3 safeties.

1364
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:52,000
I mean, that's just the way we
do it.

1365
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:56,280
And my thought with kind of
looking at the way they have

1366
01:23:56,280 --> 01:24:00,240
things laid out where you have
safeties, you have nickels, you

1367
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:05,840
have edges, you have, you know,
outside linebacker, those kinds

1368
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,080
of the way they've kind of named
things.

1369
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:10,960
I feel like you're going to see
something very similar to what

1370
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:16,520
I'm thinking that we do and that
sometimes, OK, you may see 3

1371
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,720
safeties or you may see two
safeties and a nickel.

1372
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:25,480
But is he going to be is that
Nicola linebacker?

1373
01:24:25,480 --> 01:24:28,560
Is that Nicola safety?
Is that Nicola extra corner?

1374
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:33,960
Is it, you know, that's a that's
kind of an NFL type deal.

1375
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:42,120
And knowing that he comes from
an NFL background last year, I I

1376
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,600
feel like that kind of thing is
a possibility.

1377
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:51,400
So that will be saying that
these guys are safeties.

1378
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,560
It's possible to see one of them
at the time.

1379
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:56,880
I think it could be possible to
see three of them.

1380
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,880
It just, it's going to be, it
goes back to that.

1381
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,080
How does your personnel match up
against things that you're going

1382
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,280
to see?
And it might be fluid week to

1383
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:14,960
week, depending on what it is.
But the I I definitely feel good

1384
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:19,880
about the the safety group
that's there with with Reddish

1385
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:28,760
and cash, I feel like was.
You said you saw Ellis out there

1386
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:37,200
some too, right #4 Ellis?
What about Sherrod Koval?

1387
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:38,840
Did you see a lot of Sherrod out
there?

1388
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,960
Tyson Flowers, 17.
What about 7?

1389
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:45,760
Did you see Koval who came from
Clemson?

1390
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:53,120
I did not see him, but that's
that's not to say that he wasn't

1391
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:57,200
there.
I just I didn't for some reason

1392
01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:58,840
something didn't focus in on
that.

1393
01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:10,440
I feel like, OK, I, I was going
to say I remember seeing #3

1394
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:17,320
which is Caleb Spencer, but he
was a safety before, am I right?

1395
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:21,040
Safety before, linebacker now.
Yeah, he's playing Star a lot

1396
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,400
last year.
Yeah, played outside a lot last

1397
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,800
year, so hold your thoughts.
On him and that, that's the

1398
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,640
thing, like with the way I run,
with the way we run things, I

1399
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:34,320
know you're going to, you could
get some confusion to say, hey,

1400
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:37,000
that kids played safety.
He could, he should, he's

1401
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:39,640
safety, but they say he's a
linebacker.

1402
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,080
Some things are going to, I
think some things are going to

1403
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,320
kind of mix in there.
So it's hard to say, but got you

1404
01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:53,800
the the Johnson kids still there
too, right Springs?

1405
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,320
Yep, he's still there as well,
just a sophomore, just a

1406
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:00,000
sophomore.
All right, I'm going to flip it

1407
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,600
to the defensive side of the
room with your doppelganger over

1408
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,200
there and JC Price ton of
production loss.

1409
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:14,280
I know you always talk to him
but but but this room lost a ton

1410
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:20,680
of production inside and out.
You know, APR likely going to be

1411
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,720
first four round pick people's
picking up steam to maybe get to

1412
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:29,880
the fourth round.
What concerns can't remember who

1413
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:32,040
had pitched to first last time
pitched to Robbie this time.

1414
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:35,960
What concerns you more inside or
outside or because it's

1415
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,320
changing?
It doesn't.

1416
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:46,000
We don't know yet.
I think that position has the

1417
01:27:47,480 --> 01:27:54,280
biggest question marks to me,
just because I don't know what

1418
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:59,000
their plan is.
I think they have guys there

1419
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,400
that can be very successful in
many different ways.

1420
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:15,320
OK, Laws and Copeland and
Priester Burgos, you know, to

1421
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:19,040
us, those guys are the are the
defensive line group that we're

1422
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:23,120
used to.
But this system could be a

1423
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,680
little different in how they
they interchange some of those

1424
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,520
guys.
And that's going to be cool to

1425
01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:31,600
see kind of how they move things
around.

1426
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:39,280
Would they ask them to do, you
know, as, as a guy that runs a

1427
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:44,480
lot of a lot of three man front
on the defensive front, you

1428
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:47,440
always have to go to the
question of are we asking these

1429
01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:53,640
guys to to gap or we asking
these guys to play a gap and the

1430
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,200
linebacker feel, you know,
behind it, things like that.

1431
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:02,680
So being able to see how they
position guys up front, whether

1432
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:10,280
it's Gilliam or Laws or or
Copeland or Burgos and, and all

1433
01:29:10,280 --> 01:29:14,160
of those different pieces, how
they kind of move things around

1434
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:17,080
and what they what they ask
those guys to do.

1435
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:23,120
I think once they get that set
and we'll, we may see a lot more

1436
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:27,440
of that just from the spring
game Saturday of what more of

1437
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:31,880
their plan is, I'd feel more
comfortable in saying, OK, now I

1438
01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:36,480
feel good about this group of
guys, but it's just, I know

1439
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:40,800
there's dudes there.
It's just what are they asking

1440
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,200
them to do?
And I have 100% faith in the

1441
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,720
fact that whatever they ask them
to do, the JC Price is going to

1442
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,400
get the best out of them that he
can get and that they're going

1443
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:54,400
to produce.
So that that's kind of where I

1444
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,480
stand with that.
We can name all the guys off all

1445
01:29:57,480 --> 01:30:00,880
day.
What are they going to ask them

1446
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,040
to do and how are they going to
going to step into those roles?

1447
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:07,600
I think is the biggest thing.
Brian.

1448
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,480
Yeah, I kind of have a similar,
similar take on this.

1449
01:30:11,480 --> 01:30:15,120
I feel like between what we did
in the portal, what we kind of

1450
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:20,560
already had coming back, I feel
good about the guys we have.

1451
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:24,160
I'm interested to see how
they're going to be deployed and

1452
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,840
what they're going to be asked
to do and if those things are

1453
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,440
going to meld with their skill
set.

1454
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,280
And I mean, it sounds like
Cephus's whole whole deal is

1455
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:40,560
deploying the the personnel that
he has in the best way possible

1456
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,840
to get the most out of them.
So I'm confident from that

1457
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,040
standpoint at least, you know,
from what I've heard so far.

1458
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:52,200
But you know, anytime you're
shifting philosophies on

1459
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:56,160
defense, there's always going to
be a little bit of growing pain

1460
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,720
there.
And to Robbie's point, I think

1461
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:03,800
figuring out where the guys fit
within what Cepkus wants to do,

1462
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,640
Cepkus kind of getting an
understanding of what these guys

1463
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:10,880
do best and how he can best
deploy them, that that's going

1464
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:13,480
to be the, the, the big thing.
Because, you know, to Robbie's

1465
01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:16,400
point, I think I think JC is
going to get these guys, he's

1466
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,160
going to get these guys where
they need to be.

1467
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:23,000
I think they just need to figure
out, you know, who fits best

1468
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:27,320
where and what the best rotation
is going to be in terms of guys

1469
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:31,360
getting matched with first line,
second line, things like that.

1470
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,320
Because I think there's going to
be, you know, obviously

1471
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:35,280
throughout a game, you're going
to have a guy or two kind of

1472
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:37,400
rotate in or out.
But it it's really good if you

1473
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:41,320
can kind of have that first line
that works the best together and

1474
01:31:41,320 --> 01:31:44,520
kind of that second line that
are very complementary from a

1475
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:48,200
skill set standpoint as much as
you can looking at the front.

1476
01:31:48,920 --> 01:31:52,960
And, and I tell you today I
listen to the Jonquim interview.

1477
01:31:52,960 --> 01:31:56,360
By the way, if y'all have not
seen that interview, go go

1478
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:59,440
listen to it a we're going to
try everything we've.

1479
01:31:59,440 --> 01:32:03,840
Yeah, we got to get him on here.
Holy shit, that kids

1480
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:08,000
charismatic, well spoken kid
that feels like he talked about

1481
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:11,680
anything but how he talked about
going to the defensive room and

1482
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:15,000
how he he praised JC.
He's like Coach Price telling me

1483
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:16,800
exactly what to do, how to do
it.

1484
01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:20,040
And then I do it and and it and
it's so easy.

1485
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,000
To Brodie's point, I think JC is
going to get the room right.

1486
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,920
It's just finding the right
combos, what works right.

1487
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,520
Because you know, we talk, you
know the thing about C because

1488
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,000
it's the alignment.
We've seen him do everything in

1489
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,000
different places.
We saw the videos, 2 DTS that

1490
01:32:35,000 --> 01:32:38,360
look like a one tech, a three
tech, 2 guys standing up at the

1491
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,240
ends.
Are we going to see more than

1492
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:43,680
that Saturday?
Are we going to see 3 lines?

1493
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:47,800
Are we going to see one down
lineman, you know, over at a 0

1494
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:51,920
technique somewhere at a four?
Like I'm interested to see that

1495
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:57,120
Saturday because I want to see
it where he's leveraging guys

1496
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:01,880
like Jerrod Johnson, who's, you
know, 63280 and like hand Chuck

1497
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,240
to play the four eye techniques.
And then he's putting ends on

1498
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,920
the outside of their shoulders
to say, OK, how are you going to

1499
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,000
defend this?
These guys are quick twitch guys

1500
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,720
that are going to get inside
your guards, but I'm going to be

1501
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:16,040
sending 2 edges to.
What are you going to do about

1502
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,200
it?
I think a lot of that comes from

1503
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,720
his experience with NFL guys.
I think there's going to be

1504
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:25,400
packages of certain things
depending on what you know, he's

1505
01:33:25,480 --> 01:33:27,120
he's going to scheme up some
things.

1506
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,720
OK, this offense wants to do
this and take advantage of this.

1507
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,880
But we can take advantage of
what they're trying to do right

1508
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,280
here.
You know, you may see smaller

1509
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:44,840
groups of D lineman to really
put rush press on from like a A3

1510
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,960
technique inside rather than it
all being edge pressure.

1511
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:56,600
You know, you may have God laws
and Priester and and and Gilliam

1512
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:02,120
in together up front, just
filling holes there.

1513
01:34:02,120 --> 01:34:05,720
There's so many options with the
the groups of people that they

1514
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:10,040
have and just right there
talking about jungle being in

1515
01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:12,120
the room with JC Price and all
that.

1516
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:17,720
If I'm not mistaken, didn't he
he come from he's transfer in?

1517
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:20,480
Wasn't he an inside backer?
Inside linebacker.

1518
01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:21,560
Inside.
Linebacker.

1519
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,720
Yeah, and we're, we're here
talking about him being in the

1520
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,880
room with JC Price.
Oh, I mean.

1521
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,280
It's going to be interesting to
see how they deploy these guys

1522
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:35,640
because I mean, you got so many
different, different

1523
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:39,080
opportunities that that you can,
you can do and you know, talk

1524
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,280
about from a front standpoint of
being multiple.

1525
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:46,480
I'm just I'm interested if we
how many non nickel package

1526
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:50,120
fronts we see in the spring game
or whether it's going to be, if

1527
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,720
it's not nickel, it's going to
be a just a base kind of kind of

1528
01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:57,320
245 look, you know, which is
what we expect I think at this

1529
01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:57,760
point.
Yeah.

1530
01:34:58,000 --> 01:34:59,160
At this point, you're.
Right.

1531
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:06,560
I know for us when we go to our
nickel packages more for us when

1532
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:12,480
you go to a nickel package, the
the stand up outside backer or

1533
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:18,600
whatever, Yep, kind of becomes
tag kind of attached to our

1534
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:21,880
three front line.
So it almost makes it a four

1535
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,800
front line.
But I mean, what is that

1536
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,880
something they will do with the
nickel or does an inside backer

1537
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:33,720
come out for them as a nickel
and do they play the nickel as a

1538
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:38,480
as that third safety in the
three safety type system or is

1539
01:35:38,480 --> 01:35:42,960
he another corner?
You know, it just it all depends

1540
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:47,080
on I think a lot of this all
depend on match up stuff and

1541
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:51,200
what he decides, you know, where
he wants to pull things from and

1542
01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:56,000
it's that it's back to that
prostyle of the of deal there,

1543
01:35:56,480 --> 01:35:59,720
you know, got you.
Well, you talked about backers

1544
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:00,520
there.
Obviously.

1545
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:04,080
I think everybody feels really
good about Caleb Woodson, how

1546
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,000
his development last year, how
he came on, how good he played

1547
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,440
at the end of the season.
So you feel like he's going to

1548
01:36:09,440 --> 01:36:11,880
be on the field at all time.
He may never come off the field.

1549
01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:15,000
He may never come off the field.
The honest God truth.

1550
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,960
But you know that the other
pieces, that room, we all felt

1551
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,400
good.
We saw some development with

1552
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:22,200
Gabe Williams.
He has that injury, all the

1553
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:24,200
unfortunate stuff that happened
after that.

1554
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,800
And then they moved Caleb
Spencer over and we still got

1555
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,040
Keller there.
Is this the Keller breakout year

1556
01:36:30,040 --> 01:36:32,400
where he.
Finally, don't say it, Curtis.

1557
01:36:33,240 --> 01:36:37,840
Blasphemy.
Well, I mean, I mean, he did

1558
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,800
lead the team in tackles last
year, believe it or not.

1559
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,800
He led the team in tackles with
83.

1560
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:52,520
It's, it's going to be one of
those things that's kind of like

1561
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:57,600
you said, it, it gets kind of,
it gets kind of fluid in that

1562
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,240
situation too.
We we all feel like Caleb

1563
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:01,400
Woodson is going to be on the
field.

1564
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:03,120
All the time.
It doesn't matter.

1565
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:08,040
He's stepped up, he's proven
that that he could play in there

1566
01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,080
and do that.
But we know he's got the

1567
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:14,760
athletic ability and, and
everything to to help coverage

1568
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:18,320
wise.
He's a good interior backer, but

1569
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:21,920
we know he's good in coverage
because he's played in a

1570
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:26,400
coverage position in the past.
That to me, that's a hell of a

1571
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:30,200
feeling because there's a when
I've coached linebackers, one of

1572
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,800
the worst feelings in the world
is looking at my linebackers and

1573
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:37,200
go, God damn, I hope the, I hope
the secondary can cover

1574
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:39,920
everything because I don't have
a linebacker that's going to

1575
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,560
cover anything.
Once once he figured out how to

1576
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:46,120
cover that split zone RPO, he
started looking good.

1577
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,120
He got he got burned a bunch of
times in one game on that, but

1578
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,040
once he figured that out,
couldn't do it anymore.

1579
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:56,400
I mean, I I've had here here in
North Wilkesboro, I've had

1580
01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:00,880
inside linebacker that I could
count on making 8090 a hundred

1581
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:06,280
tackles a year.
But if I had if, if the running

1582
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:09,520
back around the damn wheel out
the backfield, that bitch was

1583
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:10,880
going to be wide open.
Good.

1584
01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:15,960
Night.
I mean, I love the kid to death.

1585
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:22,160
He won't he tell you right now I
can say, hey, what are we going?

1586
01:38:22,480 --> 01:38:24,120
What are we going to do if they
hand the ball?

1587
01:38:24,120 --> 01:38:25,160
Oh, we're going to tackle the
coach.

1588
01:38:25,480 --> 01:38:27,040
What happens if he runs that
wheel?

1589
01:38:27,200 --> 01:38:30,000
He's probably going to score.
Coach, here we go.

1590
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,480
Let me ask this, Robbie, did you
see much of Cameron Fleming out

1591
01:38:33,480 --> 01:38:37,440
there in the in the practice
that you observed?

1592
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:48,360
Give me a number. 9 number 99. 9
I do not recall seeing a lot of

1593
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:52,280
him, but I can't I, I'm not
going to say that he wasn't

1594
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:56,440
there because of other things
that I was probably looking at.

1595
01:38:56,680 --> 01:39:03,080
Yeah, I wanted to, I personally
wanted to see Clatterball out

1596
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:07,200
there to see what he could do
and, and where he, you know,

1597
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:12,160
where he's fascinated with, with
that kind of with that

1598
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:16,560
linebacker style with that kid.
And it, it goes back to the

1599
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:20,360
thing I talked about it, whether
he can be a big, tough physical

1600
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,720
inside backer and still cover
and play out and things like

1601
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:27,320
that.
So I get more focused on things

1602
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:29,440
like that because I know those
are the players that I have.

1603
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:34,480
Yeah.
And so I do remember seeing a

1604
01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:42,640
lot of of Caleb Spencer, as we
discussed, he he's in that

1605
01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:46,080
linebacker position now more
than it is a safety, but he's

1606
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:48,600
another one like Woodson.
We know they can play.

1607
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:52,200
Cover style you can play cover
style you can let you you can

1608
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:54,760
deploy him for certain things
and he gained some and he got

1609
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:58,280
some weight gain too up in the
mid to 20s now where you feel a

1610
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:01,200
little bit more confident about
run support she.

1611
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,960
Said you saw some some George
balance out there too, right?

1612
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:07,760
Oh, George #41.
It's we did see some balance out

1613
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:12,720
there #41.
Nice, nice shout out George

1614
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:15,360
Balon.
I did see, I did see him some.

1615
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:22,000
And so that'll be again, as you
said, we know Woodson's going to

1616
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:24,840
be there.
How it unfolds around after that

1617
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,680
is what's in the guy that they
say, hey, he can do this.

1618
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:33,240
And then we can, we can run some
nickels and some stars and some

1619
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:37,240
other different things that we
want to see and, and how the the

1620
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:41,520
the wheel mixes in and all of
those things, just how they set

1621
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:45,240
things up.
You know, as I've said with the

1622
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:53,000
mind we run that 33, if you look
at it a lot of times against

1623
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:54,640
some spread teams that are
wider.

1624
01:40:56,120 --> 01:40:58,840
I'll my defense almost looks
like a three one.

1625
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:05,200
Yeah, I mean, because I've got
I've got guys over top,

1626
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:07,080
especially if they go in an
empty set.

1627
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:10,040
You know, I've got safeties over
top on both sides.

1628
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:12,160
I've got outside backers kind of
split out.

1629
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,400
They're really inside backers.
They're not the outside backers

1630
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,880
because I've got the safeties
helping over and things like

1631
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:21,800
that.
And I mean, that is a very

1632
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:28,040
prostyle look for teams that
are, I mean, so it'll be

1633
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,840
interesting to see how that
unfolds and, and who they try to

1634
01:41:30,840 --> 01:41:33,400
use in those places.
For alignment there, are you

1635
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,640
kind of splitting the difference
between the tackle and the slot?

1636
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:37,200
Yeah.
Yeah.

1637
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:43,040
So if we're going to play more
than 3/4, look, then those guys

1638
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:47,280
are going to be more edge
players and and it'll look like

1639
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:49,960
a help for me.
Most of the time it looks like a

1640
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:53,280
5/2 like that.
That's because I'm playing teams

1641
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:58,360
that are running wing T triple
option, that kind of stuff.

1642
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:05,360
So I mean, I, I change, I move a
lot of things around based on on

1643
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,440
what I'm going to get coming at
me.

1644
01:42:09,000 --> 01:42:13,800
And I feel like Seek just kind
of looks at things that way too,

1645
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:20,040
being AD 3 coach and, you know,
working his way up through

1646
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:23,360
things.
I, I think he kind of takes some

1647
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:27,360
of that same mindset that I do
is, is finding those matchups

1648
01:42:27,680 --> 01:42:32,760
matching schemes that to take
advantage of weaknesses from the

1649
01:42:32,760 --> 01:42:34,720
offense.
Yeah, got you.

1650
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:37,600
All right, let's get one last
room, the cornerback room.

1651
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:42,840
I mean, we're outside of Dante
Lovett and IBM Isaiah Brown

1652
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:45,400
Murray, who's going to probably
play a lot of nickel on the

1653
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,640
inside.
He you'd said that aloud down

1654
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:51,360
his interview, a lot of an
experience.

1655
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:56,600
I mean, some some young guys got
to step up right.

1656
01:42:56,600 --> 01:43:02,440
And and even if somebody steps
up, do y'all think we still got

1657
01:43:02,440 --> 01:43:07,120
a portal shop for one more or is
it or do you hope either

1658
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:11,600
knowledge JoJo or Deloach step
up where it's like, Hey, they

1659
01:43:11,600 --> 01:43:14,840
can play?
Yeah, I mean, I feel like we're

1660
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:17,920
going to be leaning pretty heavy
on, you know, outside of Lovett

1661
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:23,160
the, the, the, the 2 Williams,
you know, Christian and and

1662
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:25,160
Thomas Williams there, I feel
like they're going to be the

1663
01:43:25,160 --> 01:43:28,320
guys that are going to kind of
step in there as well.

1664
01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:35,760
It's it's one of those positions
where last year you kind of it

1665
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:37,000
was an afterthought a little
bit.

1666
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:39,480
He didn't really worry about it.
And I feel like this year it's

1667
01:43:39,480 --> 01:43:43,440
going to be, I think this the
scheme is going to take a little

1668
01:43:43,440 --> 01:43:49,400
bit off of what they have to do
relative to what they had to do

1669
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,960
in that in that system last
year.

1670
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:56,520
But at the same time, you still
going to meet guys that can go

1671
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:58,920
out there and match up man to
man and cover.

1672
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:01,360
And you're always going to need
that to some degree.

1673
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:04,640
So it's going to be interesting
to see how these guys, you know,

1674
01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:08,440
most of them red shirt
sophomores or younger kind of

1675
01:44:08,440 --> 01:44:10,760
step in there.
So yeah, to your point, Curtis,

1676
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,400
you wouldn't, it wouldn't hurt
to go out and grab a guy if you

1677
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:18,520
found a guy that has some, some
experience that you feel like

1678
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:23,080
could at least be in that, you
know, top two, top three in the

1679
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:26,800
rotation.
About you, Robbie.

1680
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:31,960
Yeah, there's another reddish in
the cornerback room, right?

1681
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:38,880
That's that's that Big Brother
who is coming from Winthrop, so

1682
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:41,280
coming from FCS.
Wingate.

1683
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:45,720
Wingate, Wingate Wingate still
FCS, right?

1684
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:49,360
Yeah, local team.
Yeah, and he had a good season

1685
01:44:49,360 --> 01:44:50,480
last year.
Don't.

1686
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:53,760
I mean they have 4 picks, 11
pass break UPS.

1687
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:57,080
Wingate.
Wingate has been a a pretty good

1688
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:00,520
football program here over the
last several years.

1689
01:45:00,760 --> 01:45:03,640
So I mean.
That's Charlotte area, right?

1690
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:11,680
Yeah, from Charlotte area, we we
know there we know there's some

1691
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:15,080
there's some talent in the in
the in the bloodstream there it.

1692
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:16,720
Is.
From.

1693
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:22,840
From.
So I mean, there I, I don't like

1694
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:27,560
you said, outside of Lovett, I
feel like there were multiple

1695
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:32,640
people that rotated different
things and, and did things and

1696
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:36,640
they're going to try to find
what fits them best.

1697
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:42,840
I've, I've known, I've known
coach Cheetah now for, for

1698
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,760
numerous years after he was a
Duke when I was in Eastern North

1699
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:49,040
Carolina through some things
like that.

1700
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:51,760
And he's going to have, he's
going to have those guys

1701
01:45:52,440 --> 01:45:56,120
prepared and, and he's going to
get the best out of what he can

1702
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:59,760
get.
So I mean, I, I think they're

1703
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:02,600
going to be well prepared.
It's just a matter of who's

1704
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:06,360
going to step up and take the
reins of, of what they need.

1705
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:09,720
Who's going to step in and be
the guy and say, hey, you know

1706
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:12,240
what, this position is open and
and I'm going to take it.

1707
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:24,480
The Joshua Clark, I know, I
guess we talked about that

1708
01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:28,840
beforehand.
I guess he got hurt recently.

1709
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,440
Yeah, we don't, we don't.
We don't know exactly what the

1710
01:46:31,440 --> 01:46:34,920
extent of that is, but yeah, the
word is he got banged up so.

1711
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:39,440
I think he, I think he he played
a lot in the bowl game and did

1712
01:46:39,440 --> 01:46:43,480
some good things right.
Yeah, yeah, he looked, he looked

1713
01:46:43,480 --> 01:46:45,760
good in the bowl game.
I know he got there was a couple

1714
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:47,760
he got burned on when he was
actually in really good

1715
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:49,800
position.
You sometimes you just get beat

1716
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:53,440
like sometimes the ball's
thrown, thrown where it needs to

1717
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:56,840
be.
I like, I like the physicality

1718
01:46:56,840 --> 01:46:59,000
he brought, he brought, he
brought that kind of that that

1719
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:01,680
physical mindset to the
cornerback possession.

1720
01:47:02,160 --> 01:47:03,680
Robbie, let me ask you this real
quick.

1721
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,600
When looking at the cornerback,
what, what sort of

1722
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:11,360
responsibilities are they going
to have within the scheme of the

1723
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:15,240
defense relative to kind of what
we've been seeing historically

1724
01:47:15,240 --> 01:47:19,040
here at Virginia Tech and.
In my knowledge of this defense

1725
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:27,960
the the corners play a lot of
your deeper to kind of man match

1726
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:29,600
type roles.
OK.

1727
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,720
There's different ways to unfold
things in the secondary.

1728
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:41,560
The way we do it that I could, I
could ask my corner sometimes to

1729
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:45,880
sit underneath more like a cover
to look, your typical cover to

1730
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:51,640
look, but it kind of depends on
who your corner is.

1731
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:58,080
If you've got a physical corner
that'll take on a a run or or

1732
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:03,040
really go down and pop a screen
that they throw out there or or

1733
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:06,880
check down, then you can play
more of that cover.

1734
01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:13,080
Two types that look, if they're
better in the coverage wise,

1735
01:48:13,440 --> 01:48:18,000
maybe you look more like a cover
three, you know, playing them

1736
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:22,400
more deep, playing them on a
match on a single receiver, you

1737
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,840
know, that kind of thing.
Do you do you see?

1738
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:29,800
Off process on it.
Do you see half half fields,

1739
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:33,480
half field man, half fields on
with some of these schemes?

1740
01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:39,240
Like what secret run?
Yeah, you see a lot like pro

1741
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,400
wise, you see a lot of split
coverages.

1742
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:48,160
For some reason, a lot of teams
in the NFL now have gone to a

1743
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:52,680
little bit more of your
traditional zone stuff and not

1744
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:55,520
doing as much of the split
coverages.

1745
01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:01,360
But it's especially when you
hit, when you look back at like

1746
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:07,080
the Darrelle Revis and that kind
of thing, they would go against

1747
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:12,280
a team that would go, you know,
twins with a tight end and then

1748
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:13,920
a single receiver on the
backside.

1749
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:15,960
Well, you knew Revis was going
to that backside.

1750
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,320
He's going to that single
receiver and he's going to shut

1751
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,000
them down.
You better figure out what you

1752
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,920
want to do with them three over
there because this one is is

1753
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:25,840
locked down.
And I mean, that could be a

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01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,960
possibility.
If Lovett's that guy, then maybe

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01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:31,360
they tell Lovett, hey, go lock
that one down.

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01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:33,240
And we forced him to play half
of the field.

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01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,840
Maybe that's something he does.
Maybe they have a receiver that,

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01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:44,280
hey, we know we got to put air
man on that receiver and then

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01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:46,000
we'll take our chances with the
other ones.

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01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:51,040
And you know, I play a lot of
when I play my split coverage,

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01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:55,680
I'll put a man on a receiver and
then I'll put a safety over top

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01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:58,080
and maybe a linebacker inside of
it.

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01:49:58,760 --> 01:50:03,200
So I take away inside routes.
I I have help over the top, the

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01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:06,840
vertical routes, that kind of
thing that gets a little bit

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01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:13,080
harder and you know, the higher
level of football in high

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01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:15,480
school.
Sometimes that one guy that's

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01:50:15,480 --> 01:50:18,560
out there that I'm putting three
guys in charge of making sure he

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01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,480
doesn't catch anything might be
the only thing they have.

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01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,760
You ain't going to run across
the college football team that

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01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,080
you just look at there and go.
That's the only thing they have.

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01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:30,080
We shut him down.
They don't stand a chance.

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01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:36,160
I know you know looking back at
Marv like we there, there was a

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01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:41,800
lot more like kind of man under
looks last year.

1774
01:50:42,320 --> 01:50:44,240
You think we're going to see a
lot of that go away?

1775
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:51,400
I don't know, like I think you
have the opportunity to be able

1776
01:50:51,400 --> 01:50:54,560
to see it, especially with the
type of personnel that they

1777
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:59,640
could put on the field at times.
OK, I think it's still an option

1778
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:04,400
to be able to do.
But yeah, I love a man under

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01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,440
look, a lot of times, especially
against a team that I know is

1780
01:51:07,440 --> 01:51:10,080
not going to line up and pound
the ball at me that wants to

1781
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:13,160
throw some screens and throw
some quick game like that.

1782
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:15,960
I'll play the man and rob it
with somebody over top of it.

1783
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:19,800
But if you if you got a team
that's going to come out there

1784
01:51:19,800 --> 01:51:24,440
and the quarterback is a threat
to to fake that take off up the

1785
01:51:24,440 --> 01:51:27,560
middle through all of that, it's
it'll bring in.

1786
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:29,880
You know Bernie.
It's going to kind of depend on

1787
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:33,080
that personnel again and and the
scheme that you're playing

1788
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:34,320
against what you're trying to
stop all.

1789
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:39,080
Right, So that kind of wraps up
at it right there.

1790
01:51:39,240 --> 01:51:42,760
What we're looking for Saturday,
it's going to be new.

1791
01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:43,960
That's it.
That's all you can say.

1792
01:51:43,960 --> 01:51:46,440
It's new.
Those who will be in person like

1793
01:51:46,440 --> 01:51:48,160
Brian, y'all are going to see it
up close.

1794
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:51,160
Those who won't be, hopefully
they do release a full tape at

1795
01:51:51,160 --> 01:51:53,080
some point.
If not, we'll go with highlights

1796
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:57,640
and we'll be back here next week
to definitely breakdown the game

1797
01:51:57,640 --> 01:52:00,520
itself, what we saw, what we
liked, what we didn't like, who

1798
01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:03,920
we didn't see, why when we see
them and so on.

1799
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:07,080
But with that, I'm going to wrap
up this episode of the Boundary

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Corner Podcast brought to you
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1802
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:15,120
I'm Brian Siegler.
Robert Compton.

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01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:02,000
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Coach and Football Camp Evaluator

Coach Robert Compton has been a high school football coach in the states of North Carolina and Virginia for 15 years. He coached current NFL talents such as Kentavius Street and Cornell Powell while at J.H. Rose High School in Greenville, NC. He is currently serving as defensive coordinator at North Wilkesboro High School in North Carolina. Coach Compton has also served as an evaluator at collegiate football camps throughout the mid-Atlantic.

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