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And welcome back to the

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Boundary Corner podcast,

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along with my partners, Brian Seigla,

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Jonathan Talley, and Shelton Moss.

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I am Curtis Wilson.

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And this episode is brought

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to you by the Main Street

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Pharmacy and Dr. Jeremy

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Counts in Blacksburg,

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your friendly neighborhood pharmacy,

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301 South Main Street, Blacksburg,

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Virginia.

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Good to see all four of you,

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three of you boys tonight.

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How's everybody doing on a

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Tuesday in March?

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Well.

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I thought you were going to say tired,

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Sheldon.

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Sheldon got worked over the weekend,

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y'all.

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Yeah, I'm doing fine, though.

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Good news is I'll get to be

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in Tampa this weekend,

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so I'll be basking in the

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sunshine of that warm Florida air.

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So I can't complain too much, man.

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I've been enjoying life.

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Look out for Florida, man.

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Look out for him.

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Yeah, look out for Florida men.

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You might be on the safe side there.

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Tally, what you been up to, man?

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Did y'all tell him to look

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out for Florida man,

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or did you tell him to look

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out for Florida men?

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Florida man.

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Florida man.

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Totally different context there.

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Totally different context.

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I was trying to make sure I

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didn't need to be.

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Maybe all of the above.

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Who knows?

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Yeah, I'm kind of close to Florida.

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I was trying to see what was going on.

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I'd be out of the loop sometimes.

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Doing good, man.

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Doing good.

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Somebody asked me for a

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weekly update of my son.

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He is doing well.

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He started PT last week.

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Couldn't do much PT because

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he's still in his boot,

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but physical therapy

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stretched him out a little bit.

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From what he's told me,

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he goes back to the doctor

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on the 23rd or 25th of this month and

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they'll decide whether he

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comes out of his boot and

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can start kind of resuming activities.

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So he says that once he's

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released from the boot,

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he thinks that he'll

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probably only have to see

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him for probably three

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weeks and he should be good to go.

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Said everything looks strong.

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Everything looks like it's

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going the way it's supposed to go.

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Told him just don't do nothing stupid.

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Don't walk without the boot

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until they tell you.

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And just to let everybody know, no,

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this is not a Clemson hat.

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This is my son and daughter's high school.

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It is Grissom High School.

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So that is a G, not a C.

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Just want to let you know,

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just in case somebody had to ask.

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That's old English G right there.

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That's a dope looking hat.

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Tally said,

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I'm getting ahead of the charges.

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Let me get ahead.

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Man,

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let me go ahead and get this out of here.

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I like that look, man.

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The high school my kids will

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eventually attend starts

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with a G. That's a sick

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looking little hat right there, man.

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So they used to do,

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they're the Grissom Tigers.

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So they used to do a hat

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that looked very similar to

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Clemson's hat.

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Oh, man.

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It was just a tiger paw.

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And when the new coaches came in,

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they were like,

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we need to get away from this.

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There you go.

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Good job.

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They started changing some stuff up.

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It looks much better.

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I like the new stuff that they have.

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Nice.

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All right.

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Well, we got a bunch to unload tonight.

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We have not one,

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but two guests later on joining us.

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Matej says from 247,

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we're going to be talking

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everything recruiting.

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And in just a little while here, Tally,

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I don't have Hunter's last name,

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so I can't give him that credit.

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Hunter.

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I don't even know if he

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wants people to know it.

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Hunter is Joe Rogers.

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That's all we know.

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I don't know if he has a last name.

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He does.

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But Hunter is a huge wrestling aficionado.

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Keeps very big tabs on the program.

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We've got some questions for

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him as we head into ACC

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tournament week with just a

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few weeks away from the national final.

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So we're going to get with him first.

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He's going to be joining us

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momentarily here,

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but let's start it off with

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some boots boys.

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And I didn't get to see it.

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I got texted a few times.

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Why we go on the road and

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blow out somebody?

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Because they're the worst team in the ACC.

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Because it was Louisville.

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Bingo.

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Don't get too excited.

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Notre Dame ain't much better than them,

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and we couldn't go beat their asses.

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Brian, go on.

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I don't even – I'm just

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going to drink while we talk about men.

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I'll let Shel grab on this one.

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Look,

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I know it's always good to get a win.

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You don't take a – you never

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take an ACC road win for granted, but –

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Man, oh man, Louisville's bad.

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Like this,

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this is like the equivalent of

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being like a bad mid-major team.

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I mean, they're just like, they are,

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they're 195th in Kimpom.

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And to put in perspective how bad,

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how bad Kenny Payne has been,

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that's actually like a 100

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spot improvement from what

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they were last year.

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So.

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This is a bad team,

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and I could go into a

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tangent about what a

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disastrous coaching job this is.

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But nonetheless, Hokies,

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I thought they moved the

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ball really well.

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They hit threes, had a lot of open threes.

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They knocked them down,

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shot 45% from three, 48% overall.

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And I thought that they just

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played like they were the better team.

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And looking at the stats,

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out-rebounded them by three,

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had four more assists.

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and 10 steals.

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That's a big one.

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I'm not sure if that's a season high,

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but I bet it's certainly close.

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Obviously, good game.

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Not going to make too much of it,

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but good to finally take

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care of an inferior

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opponent like they should have.

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Finally get a – that's just

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the second road ACC win for

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the Hokies this season?

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Yep, second road win.

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And I was looking at the

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numbers earlier this week.

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I think Tech has like

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something like the second –

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third worst ACC road record

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of the past couple seasons

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and like one of the worst in Power 5.

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So I honestly – I just don't

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know what the solution there is.

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I don't know what's causing it,

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but they just can't play

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well on the road.

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But I'm glad that wasn't the case tonight.

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Tally, anything to add?

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You've been looking down the whole time.

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Tally said he threw away the

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men's team a few weeks ago.

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He's done with them.

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Yeah,

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I threw away a lot of basketball for

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a while.

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The Lakers, too.

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I wasn't watching them either.

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You know,

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the Lakers are trying to do a

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little something.

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They always wait until they get in a pinch,

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and then they want to try

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to fight out of it.

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And, hey,

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let's try to make the playoffs

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and get everybody's hopes up.

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At least we're only three

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games out of the fifth seed.

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So, at least we got, you know,

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it ain't that much ground to make up.

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Right, right, right.

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So, with the –

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Hokies game tonight.

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They had five people in double figures.

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So that's yeah, that's pretty positive.

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I can say, you know,

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to go on the road and you

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got five people in double figures.

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But I guess I want to ask Shelton.

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What what happened to Louisville man?

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Like Louisville basketball

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used to be top tier or close to it.

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What what what is wrong?

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I mean, Kenny Payne happened.

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That's pretty much the simplest answer.

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In fact, the second you said that,

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I'm looking at you right now.

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This is from a rivals guy, I think,

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from Louisville Tiespotting.

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He said a quote from an ACC

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coach that played Louisville this year.

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They're the worst coach team

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we've ever seen.

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We watched their shell drill.

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We watched their shell drill

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before the game,

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and even that was terrible.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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When you watch them play,

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you can tell they don't

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know how to pass the ball.

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They don't know angles.

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They can't really get into

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their offense because they

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just don't know how to set

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it up properly.

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They're helping off shooters

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in the strong side of the court.

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It's just bad, bad basketball.

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So I don't know.

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As far as how he's been so bad,

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I don't know.

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But it's a disastrous coaching job.

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I would say probably...

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One of the worst coaching

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jobs we've seen in college

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sports because Louisville

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is a top 15 program with

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national championships in

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the last 20 or so years.

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They are now the equivalent

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of a crappy mid-major team

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for the last two seasons.

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It's just been mind-boggling.

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they put so much money into

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that program like it's

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insane how much money goes

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into that program there's

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no excuse for them being

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that awful whether it comes

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down to the kenny payne

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hire or anything else uh

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from an infrastructure

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standpoint there's no

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excuse for them to be that

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bad none yeah I've I've

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heard some mixed things

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about their overall

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athletic department health

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but I would I would agree

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with you generally speaking

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that's that you know that's

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a big time brand and

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there's no excuse to be that bad

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Well, I hear you talking, Shelton,

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they can't pass, they can't set up plays.

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Listen,

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I had a 10-year-old playing a 10 –

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11-year-old playing a

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10-11-year-old this year.

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And the first six games were

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brutal because they didn't

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know how to pass.

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They're 10 years old and

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you're telling me these

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guys are collegiate athletes,

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they don't know how to pass?

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That's problems right there.

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Probably something – I mean, I'm assuming,

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Shelton, your opinion,

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this isn't going to be a one-year fix?

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I would say no.

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I mean,

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obviously they'll get rid of him at

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the end of the year.

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But even with the portal, I mean,

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it would probably take, you know,

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two classes.

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I think basketball is a

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sport where it's easier to

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rebuild on the fly.

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So if you hire a good coach

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who can bring his players in, you know,

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that makes it a little bit easier.

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But still, it's probably going to be,

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you know,

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one rebuilding year and then

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maybe the second year they

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can get it turned around.

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But, yeah, they're in a really,

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really deep spot.

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All righty.

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Well, let's flip over now to what was –

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the good field story for

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Hokies this winter,

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and that was the women's

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because they went on the

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unbelievable 10-game win streak,

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get to number five in the

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country after beating UNC,

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took back-to-back losses.

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The Notre Dame loss is fine.

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Notre Dame's a top-15 team.

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You went to their house.

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You took one is what it is.

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The freshman that got us really good.

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She is.

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She is really good.

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I do not know her name,

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but she is really good.

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The doggo.

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Thank you, Sheldon.

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Yeah, Hannah Hidalgo.

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Yeah, she is a dog.

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She is.

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But then, clearly,

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everybody saw Sunday what

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happened with the loss to

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UVA and the injury to Liz Kittley.

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You know,

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I think we've all seen knee injuries.

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I mean, we're all – Sheldon,

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you're the youngest of us here,

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but you've watched a lot of

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sports in your life.

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Until you hear it's good –

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I'm assuming the worst.

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I don't know.

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I don't know if y'all feel any other way,

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but I'm assuming the worst.

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And I hate it because if

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this team doesn't get put

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in South Carolina's bracket

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with Liz Kittley,

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this team can go to the final.

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This team can go to the final four.

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And I'll try to be a little

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positive there.

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So, I mean,

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I'll say something because I

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don't know because it hurts.

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It hurts.

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Somebody said it's the story

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of the Hokies.

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Always.

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Always.

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I don't even – you don't

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even want to think about that.

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You know what I'm saying?

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You don't even want to think about, like,

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all of the – because somebody said,

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you know,

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Hokie's being cursed and things.

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Like,

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I try not to even think about that

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because I think about, like,

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it's – it has nothing to do with us.

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You know what I mean?

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It's all to do with this young lady,

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the work that she's put in.

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She's going to the WNBA.

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She's out there doing what

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she's great at doing.

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She's out there doing what she loves,

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and she goes down.

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You know what I'm saying?

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Like, I just feel for her.

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And her family,

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and I know it's not a death sentence,

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you know what I'm saying,

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as far as her being hurt.

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But at the same time, she just won, what,

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ACC Player of the Year, right?

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For the third straight time.

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Third time.

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And if that's the last time

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that she gets to suit up

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and she has to go out like that,

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that's horrible for her,

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that that's how she goes out.

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I will say it was very, very non-contact.

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It wasn't like she came down

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and twisted on somebody's foot.

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Like she came down kind of

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on her own and that knee buckled.

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And I mean,

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looking at somebody that's had

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knee problems and knee surgeries,

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it just didn't look good.

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So prayers for her and her family, man.

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I hope that everything, you know, she,

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she can bounce back.

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Even if, if that is it, you know,

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I hope she she's, you know,

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She can bounce back and keep

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moving forward with that.

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You hate for someone who is

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in the same conversation as

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far as impact in their

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individual sport as Michael

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Vick to go out in this fashion.

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Like, so for me, like,

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I know we don't know anything yet.

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I think with Curtis,

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I think we're kind of

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thinking it's going to be the worst.

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But, you know,

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there's still that hope in

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there that she gets to come

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back and kind of finish this thing out,

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this ride out on her own

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terms in some way, shape or form.

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So because... Real question.

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Real question.

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Next level talent.

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Yeah.

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Real question now.

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If that's the last time that

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we see Liz in a...

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Virginia Tech jersey.

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Does that jersey get retired?

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It better.

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It should have already been, I mean,

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if we're being honest.

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I mean,

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it should have went up the last

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home game in Castle, in my opinion.

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All right.

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You heard what Brian had to say.

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Sheldon, you got anything to add on that?

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Sheldon,

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can I ask you this question just

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because you're analytical

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and you think about this shit, man?

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She's not on the team.

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How far can they go?

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How far are they – how good – listen,

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but Sheldon thinks that way, man.

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So Sheldon can give us a good feel on it.

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Obviously, a lot of it depends on seeding.

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You know, if you're a four seed,

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you've got to play the five

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in the round of 32.

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That's going to be difficult.

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But I still think they could

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get to the Sweet 16 without her.

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Realistically, that's probably the ceiling,

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I think.

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Just because, I mean, again,

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it depends on what,

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if they get a two seed, if they, you know,

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stick them to two seed.

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Okay.

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That's, that's a lot better if it's a four,

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which I think could happen depending on,

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you know,

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if they say they lose in the

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first round or the semifinals,

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like that could happen.

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And the committee is like, Oh, well,

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we don't know if she's healthy.

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You know,

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that's going to be a lot more difficult,

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but I still think they

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could with the talent they have,

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they could still get to the sweet 16,

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but that's probably,

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that'd probably be the

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ceiling without her in my opinion.

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Yeah, I mean, my thought was, you know,

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best case scenario,

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if it's like an MCL sprain or something,

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if they can get out of the first weekend,

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she might have a chance to

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get back on the floor and, you know,

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see what that knee can do

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and kind of go from there.

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But, yeah, I'm kind of with you.

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I think getting out of that

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first weekend is probably

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the ceiling without her.

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You know, a lot of it, like you said,

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is going to depend on seating,

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especially that kind of first round game.

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Well, you know,

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the sad part about it is

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I'm looking down here on my phone.

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The sad part about it was

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the way her and Strack were

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starting to play.

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They were gelling together.

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And you think about those are what?

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Liz is 6'6".

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Strack's what, 6'4 1⁄2"?

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She's not small by any means.

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Claire Strack is.

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That there would not be many

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teams in the tournament

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when that set went out

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there that could have

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anywhere near the size.

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near the size.

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I know South Carolina is a physical team.

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I don't think they have that

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size like that.

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So that's what sucks because

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we started seeing them play

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more and more together over

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the past few weeks.

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And it was like, man,

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you get them on the floor together.

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Like what can you do?

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Cause if they play double,

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you play that double post game.

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It's like, what are you going to do?

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You're going to double both

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of them and leave King and

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you only have a more wide open.

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You ain't going to do that.

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Um,

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it just sucks because I think we all

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felt throughout this season

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was this was a legitimate

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national championship

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contender with the way the

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team was composed.

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And in the last six weeks,

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we felt even better about

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it because when they had

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that 10 game win streak,

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beating good competition,

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winning away games,

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winning at sites where it

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is a little tough to play.

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It's like,

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If that catches right at the right time,

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because the losses don't hurt.

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Because there's a lot of times you see,

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like,

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let's get the losses out of the system.

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Let's get that feeling.

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Brian, you and Tally play.

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Let's get that feeling of

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losing a game under our skin.

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So when we get in that game

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and it's 50-50 going into

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the fourth quarter,

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we don't want to lose this game.

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You know how it felt after

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Notre Dame and UVA?

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Screw that.

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We don't want that shit.

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We don't want that.

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Yeah, you want to get it out.

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You want to get those out

00:18:00.931 --> 00:18:01.892
before the tournament

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because when it comes to tournament time,

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that's when I go home.

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So, you know,

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I ain't saying the games don't count.

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But, you know, in that situation,

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you had already secured the

00:18:11.058 --> 00:18:12.780
regular season ACC championship.

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And, you know,

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you already got your double by.

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You want to get that.

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If you're going to lose.

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That's the best time to lose is there.

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All righty.

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What is the wrestling man looking like,

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man?

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Should be hopping on here in

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just a second.

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He's hopping on now.

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Good deal.

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By the way,

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I just want everybody to look

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at my cool glass here.

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Y'all see this?

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I see what you got there.

00:18:42.606 --> 00:18:43.228
You see that?

00:18:43.508 --> 00:18:44.028
Y'all see that?

00:18:44.625 --> 00:18:45.965
That is effectively a map of

00:18:46.006 --> 00:18:47.306
campus my wonderful wife

00:18:47.365 --> 00:18:48.787
gave me for Valentine's Day.

00:18:49.267 --> 00:18:50.326
And it's funny, I look on here,

00:18:50.366 --> 00:18:52.048
you can't find Lane Stadium anywhere,

00:18:52.749 --> 00:18:54.469
but you can find the stadium woods.

00:18:55.210 --> 00:18:56.450
You can find Merriman.

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So I'm wondering,

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do you have to buy the

00:18:58.971 --> 00:19:00.771
rights to Lane to put it on

00:19:00.811 --> 00:19:01.852
your cool glass?

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By the way,

00:19:04.673 --> 00:19:06.193
small batch Evan Williams right here,

00:19:06.253 --> 00:19:07.494
if y'all wondering what's in it.

00:19:08.934 --> 00:19:09.935
Hey, that's a good Tuesday.

00:19:11.617 --> 00:19:13.278
Got a nice cup,

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getting some brownie points

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because you're plugging your wife.

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Pause.

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My wife also went out to

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dinner with some colleagues

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of hers tonight,

00:19:22.821 --> 00:19:24.843
so I could put the littlest

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one down and the middle one

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down before she got home.

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You're doing good.

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You're doing real good.

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I'm going to also plug something,

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but this ain't got nothing.

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This right here,

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anybody who has kids that

00:19:36.606 --> 00:19:40.488
play basketball and you get on TikTok...

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This is a silent basketball.

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Shut up.

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Yes.

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This is what you were...

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Bounce it on your desk there.

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I need to see it.

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Harley, no noise.

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That's on the floor.

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That ain't much noise.

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That's on the floor.

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You got, Harley, no noise from this thing.

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I'm telling you, if you got kids... I do.

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I'd like to.

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I'm supposed to bounce it in

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the basement all the time.

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It was like...

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I don't know, maybe $15.

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$15.

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I would take a look at silent basketball.

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Silent basketball.

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I'll take it.

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Because you go to the NCAA, and, man, oh,

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God.

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They get your head going right there.

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They get your head going right there.

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It ain't even a joke.

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Yep.

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Fun.

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Yeah, I got the hoop in the court there,

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so that's usually where I stay.

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So a little extra sound from

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the ball don't really hurt

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nobody out there.

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You've seen the setup here at the house,

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Brian.

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We got a full court.

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It don't matter up there,

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but he likes... Hey, listen.

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I saw my son grow as a player this year.

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He had a lot of fun playing basketball.

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Kid knows what to do with basketball.

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Yeah.

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All righty.

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Let's roll this man on.

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Ladies and gentlemen, we got our

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Wrestling expert tonight,

00:21:12.029 --> 00:21:13.451
Joe Hunter Rogers.

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Joe, how you doing, buddy?

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I'm good, fellas.

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How y'all doing tonight?

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Good, man.

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Good.

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You been getting any sleep?

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Zero sleep, man.

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I just made another baby run

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to the pharmacy.

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Had to get formula.

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All right, fun.

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You got three dads here, Joe.

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I got three.

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Tally got two.

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Brian got one.

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Here's the rule.

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When that baby sleeps, you sleep.

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I don't care if it's

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3 in the afternoon.

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I don't care if it's 5 in the morning.

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That thing decides to zonk

00:21:44.585 --> 00:21:46.445
out and just say, fuck the bullshit.

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I'm going to bed right now.

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I'm getting at least a half hour in, man.

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Give me something.

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Get the sleep in when you can.

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I'm learning.

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I'm learning.

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I'm new at this.

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Well, just listen,

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it takes a village and I'm

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sure you got friends and

00:22:03.339 --> 00:22:05.020
family give you all the

00:22:05.080 --> 00:22:06.540
advice that they can.

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And trust me,

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it's it's it ain't no better

00:22:09.481 --> 00:22:10.001
feeling than it.

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I'll tell you that much right now.

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Again, other three here.

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All right, well, let's get into it, man,

00:22:16.144 --> 00:22:18.346
because we know how big of a wrestling,

00:22:18.405 --> 00:22:19.946
hokey wrestling fan you are.

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And we got a lot of

00:22:21.268 --> 00:22:22.430
questions we want to ask you.

00:22:22.450 --> 00:22:23.470
And Tally just went off camera.

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We lost him, Jesus Christ.

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All right,

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but I'm going to start this one out.

00:22:27.954 --> 00:22:28.434
Sheldon, Brian,

00:22:28.454 --> 00:22:28.996
and Tally are going to

00:22:29.016 --> 00:22:30.017
throw some questions in here.

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So 2024 season expectations.

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I mean, for this team, it was pretty high.

00:22:35.701 --> 00:22:37.403
Great finish last year in 2023.

00:22:37.703 --> 00:22:39.265
A lot of guys coming back.

00:22:40.241 --> 00:22:41.323
Teams currently ranked 13th

00:22:41.442 --> 00:22:42.544
in a lot of the polls,

00:22:42.564 --> 00:22:44.585
9-4 record overall.

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In your opinion,

00:22:46.707 --> 00:22:49.808
has this team overachieved, underachieved,

00:22:49.909 --> 00:22:51.530
or from your expectations,

00:22:51.570 --> 00:22:53.011
achieved about where they should?

00:22:54.613 --> 00:22:55.874
I'm going to say with the

00:22:55.953 --> 00:22:57.895
circumstances about where they should,

00:22:58.695 --> 00:22:59.416
sometimes it's been a

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little underachieving.

00:23:00.758 --> 00:23:02.098
We've had some injury issues.

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125, the plan was for Eddie Ventresca.

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I mean, he's a returning All-American.

00:23:08.263 --> 00:23:10.045
The plan was for him to come back

00:23:11.144 --> 00:23:12.125
Give Cooper Flynn,

00:23:12.525 --> 00:23:14.046
who's ranked fourth in the nation,

00:23:14.626 --> 00:23:16.208
but give him his Olympic

00:23:16.288 --> 00:23:18.289
red shirt and then let them develop.

00:23:18.670 --> 00:23:19.170
So that way,

00:23:19.371 --> 00:23:20.351
one of them is going to end up

00:23:20.391 --> 00:23:22.373
going up to 133 at some point eventually.

00:23:23.294 --> 00:23:25.414
So Eddie gets hurt early in the year.

00:23:26.076 --> 00:23:27.317
He's never looked right.

00:23:27.936 --> 00:23:29.038
Lost some matches to guys

00:23:29.057 --> 00:23:29.959
that normally wouldn't.

00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:32.701
They had to pull Cooper Flynn's red shirt,

00:23:33.362 --> 00:23:34.583
bring him back after he

00:23:34.643 --> 00:23:37.345
wrestled a tournament over in Croatia,

00:23:38.465 --> 00:23:38.586
and

00:23:38.992 --> 00:23:40.012
Throw him into the lineup.

00:23:40.334 --> 00:23:41.034
It's a different style of

00:23:41.054 --> 00:23:41.713
wrestling as well.

00:23:42.434 --> 00:23:43.515
Olympic wrestling.

00:23:44.015 --> 00:23:45.056
It's mostly freestyles,

00:23:45.096 --> 00:23:46.195
what Cooper Flynn was doing.

00:23:46.977 --> 00:23:48.717
So we've had a couple of

00:23:48.757 --> 00:23:50.337
those circumstances where it's like, man,

00:23:50.397 --> 00:23:52.439
I really can't put that on

00:23:52.659 --> 00:23:55.559
my original expectations for the year.

00:23:55.559 --> 00:23:57.560
141,

00:23:57.560 --> 00:23:59.541
they had kind of planned on

00:24:00.122 --> 00:24:01.563
redshirting Tom Crook as well.

00:24:03.064 --> 00:24:04.023
That didn't work out either.

00:24:05.053 --> 00:24:07.034
Matt Church, a couple of the other guys,

00:24:07.173 --> 00:24:07.693
Hunter Mason,

00:24:07.713 --> 00:24:10.575
they tried to step in and it didn't work.

00:24:10.595 --> 00:24:12.155
We had to pull another red shirt there.

00:24:13.056 --> 00:24:15.717
And then if you go to 157, Bryce Andonian,

00:24:16.537 --> 00:24:18.057
the most electric guy in the country.

00:24:18.478 --> 00:24:19.458
He's been hurt all year for

00:24:19.478 --> 00:24:21.298
the second year in a row.

00:24:22.719 --> 00:24:23.940
And you get to that point,

00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:25.720
that's three out of ten weight classes.

00:24:26.721 --> 00:24:28.340
That's 30% of your roster

00:24:28.361 --> 00:24:29.842
that you've had issues with,

00:24:30.221 --> 00:24:32.403
injuries and circumstances

00:24:32.423 --> 00:24:33.303
that you can't control.

00:24:33.323 --> 00:24:33.363
So

00:24:34.038 --> 00:24:34.940
I think they've bounced back.

00:24:35.259 --> 00:24:36.240
I think they've hung in there.

00:24:36.260 --> 00:24:37.882
They've responded.

00:24:39.403 --> 00:24:39.644
Nice.

00:24:40.865 --> 00:24:41.905
Thanks for the explaining

00:24:41.965 --> 00:24:43.166
with the Cooper Flynn thing

00:24:43.207 --> 00:24:44.948
because I remember, Eddie,

00:24:44.968 --> 00:24:45.828
from last year when I

00:24:45.848 --> 00:24:47.210
looked up Cooper being four,

00:24:47.269 --> 00:24:48.351
it was just like, wait a second,

00:24:48.892 --> 00:24:50.173
Cooper's a young guy.

00:24:50.232 --> 00:24:51.894
Hey, that's impressive for him.

00:24:53.215 --> 00:24:54.016
But, again,

00:24:54.576 --> 00:24:55.857
you follow it closer than we do.

00:24:55.877 --> 00:24:57.098
That's why we love having you on.

00:24:57.138 --> 00:24:58.680
Brian, Shelton, y'all got anything?

00:24:58.700 --> 00:24:59.941
Anybody want to jump in for

00:24:59.961 --> 00:25:00.541
the next one here?

00:25:01.163 --> 00:25:02.565
Yeah, I think the big thing for me, like,

00:25:02.625 --> 00:25:04.065
you know, we know about Makai.

00:25:04.085 --> 00:25:05.006
We know about Caleb.

00:25:05.746 --> 00:25:06.586
Let's kind of take them out

00:25:06.606 --> 00:25:07.426
of the conversation.

00:25:07.467 --> 00:25:08.186
What are some other guys

00:25:08.227 --> 00:25:09.428
that have kind of wowed you this year?

00:25:10.989 --> 00:25:12.449
Ooh, there's a few.

00:25:13.269 --> 00:25:14.951
I mean, one of them, it's T.J.

00:25:14.971 --> 00:25:16.391
Stewart at 184.

00:25:17.051 --> 00:25:17.352
I mean,

00:25:17.451 --> 00:25:19.012
even if you look at the 184 weight class,

00:25:19.093 --> 00:25:20.413
it took kind of that first

00:25:20.432 --> 00:25:21.534
semester to get T.J.

00:25:21.594 --> 00:25:21.773
right.

00:25:21.794 --> 00:25:22.753
He redshirted last year.

00:25:23.595 --> 00:25:24.375
But it's T.J.

00:25:24.414 --> 00:25:24.734
Stewart.

00:25:24.775 --> 00:25:27.416
He is Makai Lewis-esque at 184.

00:25:29.163 --> 00:25:30.304
And he is so electric.

00:25:30.324 --> 00:25:31.824
You just saw he beat a top

00:25:31.824 --> 00:25:33.924
10 ranked guy back-to-back matches.

00:25:34.525 --> 00:25:35.285
And it's so hard.

00:25:35.325 --> 00:25:36.484
Wrestling is so hard to beat

00:25:36.724 --> 00:25:37.944
somebody that's somewhat

00:25:37.986 --> 00:25:39.766
level with you twice in a row,

00:25:40.405 --> 00:25:41.465
much less beat him like you did.

00:25:41.486 --> 00:25:42.786
Beat him back-to-back.

00:25:42.826 --> 00:25:45.186
Beat him in his home place at NC State.

00:25:45.886 --> 00:25:47.047
Yeah, it's pretty incredible.

00:25:47.086 --> 00:25:50.028
So TJ Stewart, he's real impressive.

00:25:51.028 --> 00:25:52.107
Another one that they were

00:25:52.147 --> 00:25:53.327
kind of looking at too,

00:25:53.807 --> 00:25:54.867
from what I understand,

00:25:54.948 --> 00:25:56.689
is Sammy Sassa at 197.

00:25:56.689 --> 00:25:58.409
He's got a few flashes.

00:25:59.477 --> 00:26:01.357
but you know he hasn't got

00:26:01.377 --> 00:26:02.617
the starting job yet it's

00:26:02.657 --> 00:26:03.438
probably going to be a next

00:26:03.458 --> 00:26:05.699
year thing and then he

00:26:05.739 --> 00:26:08.940
believes up he is a judo

00:26:09.460 --> 00:26:11.701
wizard you know he's big on

00:26:11.740 --> 00:26:13.842
the throws he's filled in

00:26:14.122 --> 00:26:15.603
at 65 he's filled in at 57

00:26:15.603 --> 00:26:16.762
so like that's another guy

00:26:16.803 --> 00:26:18.403
that I think is eventually

00:26:18.423 --> 00:26:19.284
down the road going to be

00:26:19.324 --> 00:26:20.703
really electric for us he's

00:26:20.723 --> 00:26:22.365
going to be another andonian almost

00:26:23.560 --> 00:26:24.340
Can I ask this?

00:26:24.621 --> 00:26:25.561
I don't have this on here,

00:26:25.622 --> 00:26:27.201
but when you're mentioning

00:26:27.241 --> 00:26:28.442
some of these guys filling in,

00:26:29.182 --> 00:26:29.982
what does that make you

00:26:30.002 --> 00:26:31.083
feel like is the program

00:26:31.123 --> 00:26:32.563
where there's guys filling

00:26:32.624 --> 00:26:33.983
in that are winning matches,

00:26:34.044 --> 00:26:35.523
that are carrying the torch on?

00:26:36.365 --> 00:26:38.325
Does that say we're getting

00:26:38.424 --> 00:26:40.945
to the next echelon of a

00:26:40.986 --> 00:26:41.425
wrestling program?

00:26:41.445 --> 00:26:41.685
Yes.

00:26:42.226 --> 00:26:42.506
Okay.

00:26:42.586 --> 00:26:43.145
Absolutely.

00:26:43.465 --> 00:26:44.626
You see Penn State do that.

00:26:45.727 --> 00:26:47.086
You start stacking depth that way,

00:26:47.387 --> 00:26:48.048
just like football.

00:26:48.367 --> 00:26:48.788
You know, Brian –

00:26:49.521 --> 00:26:50.021
Played football.

00:26:50.061 --> 00:26:51.462
He understands playing college ball.

00:26:51.903 --> 00:26:53.144
Same thing at the college level,

00:26:53.183 --> 00:26:54.244
you start stacking depth

00:26:54.964 --> 00:26:56.066
and it's really hard to do

00:26:56.145 --> 00:26:57.286
in wrestling because you

00:26:57.326 --> 00:26:59.627
only get nine scholarships for 10 slots.

00:26:59.647 --> 00:27:04.130
So you're really relying on now NIL, but,

00:27:04.230 --> 00:27:06.070
uh, the SCRTC as well.

00:27:06.632 --> 00:27:07.592
And Tony Roby has done a

00:27:07.791 --> 00:27:08.813
really good job of

00:27:08.873 --> 00:27:10.594
developing that so we can

00:27:10.614 --> 00:27:11.673
get other guys money.

00:27:12.375 --> 00:27:13.255
Uh, one of the problems though,

00:27:13.275 --> 00:27:14.496
that we have in Virginia.

00:27:15.479 --> 00:27:16.559
is air walls are different

00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:18.942
so nc state has a huge

00:27:18.981 --> 00:27:20.502
advantage because

00:27:20.742 --> 00:27:22.624
out-of-state athletes can

00:27:22.683 --> 00:27:24.486
get in-state tuition there

00:27:25.707 --> 00:27:27.887
so they're paying like you

00:27:27.907 --> 00:27:29.950
know half or maybe a third

00:27:30.009 --> 00:27:32.791
in their instance for scholarship money

00:27:33.226 --> 00:27:34.767
So they can get guys more

00:27:34.807 --> 00:27:35.626
bang for their buck.

00:27:36.067 --> 00:27:37.228
So we're also fighting that

00:27:37.288 --> 00:27:38.688
battle being in Virginia.

00:27:38.708 --> 00:27:40.328
Aaron Rouse, if you're listening,

00:27:40.348 --> 00:27:41.368
please change that for us.

00:27:43.089 --> 00:27:44.871
You know what?

00:27:45.371 --> 00:27:48.592
There was some motion in the Senate,

00:27:48.672 --> 00:27:49.833
in the House there,

00:27:49.893 --> 00:27:51.713
and it's kind of stalled.

00:27:51.733 --> 00:27:52.653
I haven't heard a whole lot

00:27:52.713 --> 00:27:54.595
from it in the last six to eight months,

00:27:54.615 --> 00:27:56.175
but there was a big push, I think,

00:27:56.215 --> 00:27:56.935
about a year ago.

00:27:57.701 --> 00:27:59.123
or a little over a year ago

00:27:59.182 --> 00:28:00.644
to get that moving.

00:28:00.663 --> 00:28:02.845
It's been a hang-up.

00:28:02.904 --> 00:28:04.365
I know it's probably not a priority,

00:28:04.425 --> 00:28:06.528
especially in an election

00:28:06.548 --> 00:28:07.509
year and all this bullshit.

00:28:08.709 --> 00:28:09.789
That's why it's so hard in

00:28:09.809 --> 00:28:10.971
stack depth in wrestling.

00:28:11.371 --> 00:28:12.491
There's only a few schools

00:28:12.511 --> 00:28:13.511
that can really do it.

00:28:13.573 --> 00:28:14.833
It's like your top four.

00:28:15.314 --> 00:28:17.154
Ohio State, they can do it,

00:28:17.295 --> 00:28:18.576
but they're not elite at it.

00:28:18.675 --> 00:28:19.395
They're here and there.

00:28:20.217 --> 00:28:21.478
Penn State, they're number one.

00:28:21.498 --> 00:28:22.699
They have been for a long time.

00:28:23.259 --> 00:28:23.939
They've got some injuries.

00:28:23.959 --> 00:28:24.779
I'll talk about that in a minute.

00:28:25.628 --> 00:28:26.630
And that's why this helps them.

00:28:27.170 --> 00:28:28.872
But Penn State, obviously, I mean,

00:28:28.892 --> 00:28:29.612
you'll see them get the

00:28:29.652 --> 00:28:31.093
number one recruit and

00:28:31.113 --> 00:28:31.973
they're able to just like

00:28:32.213 --> 00:28:34.596
stack him right underneath the starter,

00:28:34.997 --> 00:28:36.438
which most places that

00:28:36.458 --> 00:28:38.058
guy's not going to go and sit.

00:28:38.098 --> 00:28:39.140
He's going to want to go start.

00:28:39.700 --> 00:28:41.521
And then Iowa, that's your other big one.

00:28:41.942 --> 00:28:42.702
You're going to see guys.

00:28:43.242 --> 00:28:45.605
Iowa has crazy money for

00:28:45.644 --> 00:28:46.605
their wrestling program.

00:28:47.205 --> 00:28:47.747
It's absurd.

00:28:49.028 --> 00:28:49.307
Wow.

00:28:49.367 --> 00:28:50.548
That was that all as well.

00:28:52.141 --> 00:28:53.121
I mean, that takes it, though.

00:28:53.141 --> 00:28:54.902
I mean, Iowa has been good.

00:28:54.922 --> 00:28:55.961
I mean, I'm 40.

00:28:56.642 --> 00:28:58.501
To me, I can still remember as a kid,

00:28:58.561 --> 00:28:59.742
Iowa's been good for 30, 40,

00:28:59.742 --> 00:29:01.563
close to 50 years.

00:29:01.623 --> 00:29:03.282
It's a great program.

00:29:04.723 --> 00:29:05.523
Let me ask this,

00:29:05.544 --> 00:29:06.403
because you mentioned Bryce

00:29:06.463 --> 00:29:07.723
Adonia a little while ago

00:29:07.743 --> 00:29:08.544
with the injury.

00:29:08.864 --> 00:29:10.184
And has anyone else taken

00:29:10.244 --> 00:29:11.785
step backs this year in your eyes?

00:29:11.944 --> 00:29:15.405
And when that happens in wrestling, why?

00:29:15.746 --> 00:29:16.445
Like, you know,

00:29:16.965 --> 00:29:18.205
Brian's talked about football,

00:29:18.226 --> 00:29:20.186
that sometimes it's just guys growing,

00:29:20.207 --> 00:29:20.807
developing.

00:29:22.041 --> 00:29:23.202
they don't go as fast.

00:29:23.282 --> 00:29:24.042
Is that the same in

00:29:24.083 --> 00:29:25.584
wrestling or is it different things?

00:29:26.644 --> 00:29:27.224
Absolutely.

00:29:27.305 --> 00:29:28.865
And I think part of it's wrestling,

00:29:28.905 --> 00:29:29.746
such a mental sport.

00:29:30.686 --> 00:29:32.428
So when your body grows as well,

00:29:32.468 --> 00:29:33.167
if you start getting to

00:29:33.188 --> 00:29:34.528
where you have a really hard weight cut,

00:29:35.650 --> 00:29:36.670
it drains you.

00:29:37.131 --> 00:29:38.932
And then you might be okay.

00:29:38.951 --> 00:29:39.791
You might think your body's

00:29:39.832 --> 00:29:40.633
right and it's not.

00:29:41.192 --> 00:29:43.473
So it's really hard to find that balance.

00:29:44.234 --> 00:29:46.316
So that development with wrestling,

00:29:46.355 --> 00:29:48.176
it's kind of, it's kind of like football,

00:29:48.196 --> 00:29:49.657
but the way I like to say it,

00:29:49.938 --> 00:29:51.358
think about like when you tear your ACL,

00:29:52.355 --> 00:29:53.195
it's really hard to bounce

00:29:53.236 --> 00:29:54.557
back and get to the level that you're at.

00:29:55.178 --> 00:29:57.319
So when you have a setback, it's,

00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:58.361
it's a mental thing.

00:29:58.881 --> 00:30:00.102
It's mentally being ready,

00:30:00.823 --> 00:30:01.844
being able to get back out

00:30:01.864 --> 00:30:03.726
on the mat and get back to that level.

00:30:03.766 --> 00:30:04.826
You're fighting yourself as

00:30:04.886 --> 00:30:06.468
much as you are wrestling the other guy.

00:30:07.269 --> 00:30:08.430
So who's done it this year?

00:30:08.490 --> 00:30:10.031
Who has taken that step back?

00:30:10.071 --> 00:30:12.574
Who is, I won't say disappointed you,

00:30:12.614 --> 00:30:13.174
but like,

00:30:14.124 --> 00:30:15.084
they've got to get over that

00:30:15.183 --> 00:30:16.305
hurdle at least next year,

00:30:16.345 --> 00:30:17.404
because what you mentioned

00:30:17.484 --> 00:30:18.244
earlier about we're,

00:30:18.484 --> 00:30:19.465
we're feeling backed up

00:30:19.506 --> 00:30:21.506
where if you're not good enough next year,

00:30:21.926 --> 00:30:22.567
you're not going to be the

00:30:22.606 --> 00:30:23.487
guy in that weight class.

00:30:24.326 --> 00:30:24.547
Yeah.

00:30:25.048 --> 00:30:26.627
We've had a couple of guys, Andy Smith.

00:30:27.647 --> 00:30:28.548
He took a step back.

00:30:28.868 --> 00:30:30.628
He actually laid out a

00:30:30.689 --> 00:30:32.650
really bad performance against NC state.

00:30:33.150 --> 00:30:34.750
He ended up getting tech fog,

00:30:35.230 --> 00:30:36.590
gave a bunch of bonus points,

00:30:36.611 --> 00:30:37.451
which is critical in a

00:30:37.491 --> 00:30:38.471
tight duel like that.

00:30:39.231 --> 00:30:40.491
Andy Smith, he took a step back.

00:30:40.511 --> 00:30:41.833
We didn't think that was going to happen.

00:30:42.539 --> 00:30:44.080
And then another guy is Hunter Kafka.

00:30:44.740 --> 00:30:45.662
We saw Jimmy Mullins

00:30:45.721 --> 00:30:48.503
actually wrestle at NC State.

00:30:48.523 --> 00:30:49.763
He does football and wrestling.

00:30:50.184 --> 00:30:50.845
He's going to have to make a

00:30:50.884 --> 00:30:51.685
choice at one point.

00:30:52.306 --> 00:30:53.787
I think Tony Roby's actually said that.

00:30:54.547 --> 00:30:56.588
So he's got a guy on his heels,

00:30:56.969 --> 00:30:58.130
and Hunter Kafka's kind of

00:30:58.269 --> 00:31:01.352
that guy that's such a big-name recruit.

00:31:01.771 --> 00:31:03.053
Kind of like Connor Brady, too.

00:31:03.093 --> 00:31:04.673
He's kind of hit a wall at 165.

00:31:05.013 --> 00:31:06.194
He's plateaued and never

00:31:06.255 --> 00:31:07.315
been able to get over that.

00:31:07.836 --> 00:31:09.696
They kept thinking when he came in, like,

00:31:09.717 --> 00:31:10.557
this guy can develop.

00:31:10.656 --> 00:31:11.458
He'll be really good.

00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:13.638
never really been able to

00:31:13.659 --> 00:31:14.578
get over that wall.

00:31:15.220 --> 00:31:18.079
So you got those three guys and Brady,

00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:18.579
you know,

00:31:18.619 --> 00:31:20.059
he's got Hippolyta now pushing

00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:21.201
them for his spot as well.

00:31:21.861 --> 00:31:23.661
But Kafka is one that's just,

00:31:24.101 --> 00:31:25.221
it's kind of disappointing in a way.

00:31:25.301 --> 00:31:26.461
Cause he was such a big

00:31:26.521 --> 00:31:28.241
recruit that we thought we

00:31:28.261 --> 00:31:30.082
had finally got heavyweight figured out.

00:31:30.123 --> 00:31:31.182
Cause we had a long period

00:31:31.222 --> 00:31:32.823
where that was a really weak spot for us.

00:31:33.403 --> 00:31:35.042
So we recruited hard, recruited hard.

00:31:35.963 --> 00:31:36.364
And I mean,

00:31:36.963 --> 00:31:38.463
now we got Mullins that we got

00:31:38.503 --> 00:31:39.443
another guy in the works as

00:31:39.483 --> 00:31:42.325
well with him behind Kafka and

00:31:43.737 --> 00:31:44.857
Those are our three spots

00:31:44.897 --> 00:31:46.358
where guys have kind of not

00:31:46.398 --> 00:31:47.459
got to that next step that

00:31:47.538 --> 00:31:48.259
we thought they would.

00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:49.740
But we're fortunate enough

00:31:50.221 --> 00:31:51.280
that the staff's done well.

00:31:51.602 --> 00:31:52.721
They've put a good game plan

00:31:52.741 --> 00:31:53.923
in to try and make a run

00:31:54.242 --> 00:31:55.104
and get us to that next

00:31:55.144 --> 00:31:56.684
level that we got guys that

00:31:56.704 --> 00:31:57.964
are young guys, freshmen,

00:31:58.244 --> 00:31:59.205
true freshmen that are

00:31:59.246 --> 00:32:00.186
coming for their spots now

00:32:00.287 --> 00:32:00.906
right on their heels.

00:32:01.586 --> 00:32:01.788
Nice.

00:32:02.307 --> 00:32:02.528
Sheldon,

00:32:02.548 --> 00:32:04.009
I know you got one you want to ask here.

00:32:04.780 --> 00:32:06.922
Yeah, well, I had to ask about the man,

00:32:06.981 --> 00:32:08.522
the myth, the legend, Makai Lewis.

00:32:09.103 --> 00:32:09.442
Obviously,

00:32:09.462 --> 00:32:10.483
we know he's one of the best in

00:32:10.503 --> 00:32:11.664
the country at his weight class.

00:32:12.105 --> 00:32:13.526
How impressive has he been this year?

00:32:13.605 --> 00:32:14.145
And what do you think are

00:32:14.165 --> 00:32:15.226
the odds are that he can

00:32:15.266 --> 00:32:16.126
win that second national

00:32:16.146 --> 00:32:17.186
title that's eluded him for

00:32:17.207 --> 00:32:17.827
a few years now?

00:32:18.607 --> 00:32:18.807
Well,

00:32:18.988 --> 00:32:20.769
it's funny you bring that up because

00:32:20.808 --> 00:32:22.329
his odds just shot up.

00:32:22.930 --> 00:32:24.830
A kid from Penn State that

00:32:24.851 --> 00:32:25.791
seems to be his arch

00:32:25.852 --> 00:32:27.053
nemesis and have his number,

00:32:27.133 --> 00:32:27.932
Carter Storocci.

00:32:28.813 --> 00:32:30.094
He might have just torn his ACL.

00:32:30.954 --> 00:32:31.315
He was...

00:32:32.215 --> 00:32:34.336
They had senior night at Penn State.

00:32:34.717 --> 00:32:35.917
He was going for the pin.

00:32:35.958 --> 00:32:36.718
He could have tech followed

00:32:36.758 --> 00:32:38.378
the kid from Rutgers easily.

00:32:39.460 --> 00:32:40.200
Tried to get cute.

00:32:40.601 --> 00:32:41.340
Went for the pin.

00:32:41.760 --> 00:32:43.821
Got stuck in a funky little roll.

00:32:44.142 --> 00:32:45.363
His knee got caught up under him.

00:32:46.384 --> 00:32:47.263
And it looks like he's going

00:32:47.284 --> 00:32:48.805
to weigh in and forfeit at

00:32:48.845 --> 00:32:49.765
the Big Ten tournament.

00:32:50.726 --> 00:32:51.566
Roach is number one.

00:32:52.027 --> 00:32:52.686
Ranked number one.

00:32:53.426 --> 00:32:53.907
He's out.

00:32:54.627 --> 00:32:55.769
Most likely he is out.

00:32:56.628 --> 00:32:58.049
Everybody else that's in the weight class,

00:32:58.250 --> 00:32:59.151
Mekhi Lewis is beat.

00:32:59.871 --> 00:33:01.511
So his odds just shot up.

00:33:03.463 --> 00:33:04.704
But as far as impressive goes,

00:33:05.204 --> 00:33:06.506
Makai's incredibly impressive.

00:33:06.885 --> 00:33:07.806
He's only been taken down

00:33:08.026 --> 00:33:09.826
six times in his entire career.

00:33:11.188 --> 00:33:13.409
That is pretty much unheard of.

00:33:14.410 --> 00:33:15.089
Of those six times,

00:33:15.369 --> 00:33:16.510
pretty much all been the same guy,

00:33:16.711 --> 00:33:17.571
and now he's gone.

00:33:18.932 --> 00:33:20.813
But I think one of the challenges- Yeah,

00:33:20.913 --> 00:33:22.233
I don't like nobody being hurt,

00:33:22.294 --> 00:33:23.335
but I mean,

00:33:23.474 --> 00:33:24.714
if you keep losing to the same

00:33:24.734 --> 00:33:25.736
guy and you ain't gotta fight him,

00:33:25.855 --> 00:33:27.396
I guess that's pretty good.

00:33:28.176 --> 00:33:29.478
Makes your life a lot easier.

00:33:30.083 --> 00:33:31.483
Makes your life a little bit easier.

00:33:32.204 --> 00:33:33.566
The second title eluding him,

00:33:33.625 --> 00:33:34.487
I think some of that was

00:33:34.547 --> 00:33:35.527
going up a weight class.

00:33:36.488 --> 00:33:39.009
The title he won was at 165,

00:33:39.009 --> 00:33:40.090
and then he decided to go up to 174.

00:33:40.090 --> 00:33:42.373
It kind of takes a little

00:33:42.432 --> 00:33:43.973
bit for your body to grow

00:33:44.114 --> 00:33:45.996
in to nine more pounds of

00:33:46.076 --> 00:33:48.258
mass with cutting and

00:33:48.317 --> 00:33:49.699
figuring out that speed and

00:33:49.739 --> 00:33:50.599
strength combination

00:33:50.619 --> 00:33:53.501
because he was incredibly strong at 165.

00:33:53.501 --> 00:33:55.844
So if anybody's got a shot, he's the guy.

00:33:56.383 --> 00:33:57.423
I really want him to get it.

00:33:57.742 --> 00:33:58.683
He's probably the best

00:33:58.723 --> 00:33:59.403
wrestler to ever come

00:33:59.443 --> 00:34:00.243
through Virginia Tech,

00:34:00.263 --> 00:34:00.903
and he deserves it.

00:34:00.923 --> 00:34:00.903
100%.

00:34:01.904 --> 00:34:04.665
Wow, that's what's up.

00:34:04.746 --> 00:34:05.425
Caleb Henson,

00:34:05.445 --> 00:34:06.685
let's talk about him a little bit.

00:34:07.826 --> 00:34:09.327
Caleb's freshman year was

00:34:09.686 --> 00:34:10.487
pretty impressive.

00:34:10.947 --> 00:34:12.987
He took fifth at Nationals this year.

00:34:13.047 --> 00:34:14.148
He's been even better.

00:34:14.168 --> 00:34:16.708
He's only had one loss to a top guy.

00:34:18.170 --> 00:34:20.469
And I guess the question I'm

00:34:20.489 --> 00:34:21.190
going to ask you is,

00:34:21.751 --> 00:34:22.871
can he overcome that loss

00:34:22.951 --> 00:34:23.811
in the Nationals and get

00:34:23.851 --> 00:34:25.552
revenge for a title?

00:34:27.012 --> 00:34:27.733
Absolutely.

00:34:27.813 --> 00:34:29.594
And his chances also just got better.

00:34:30.574 --> 00:34:31.016
Penn State,

00:34:31.056 --> 00:34:33.518
their 149 is also now out for the year.

00:34:33.538 --> 00:34:34.498
It's already official.

00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:35.760
He's done.

00:34:36.900 --> 00:34:38.702
The one kid to beat him, Ridge Lovett,

00:34:39.302 --> 00:34:40.565
just slipped up and lost to

00:34:40.585 --> 00:34:42.405
Parco from Arizona State.

00:34:43.447 --> 00:34:44.487
So it looks like Caleb

00:34:44.507 --> 00:34:45.909
Henson will get that one seed.

00:34:46.389 --> 00:34:47.731
He has an easier path to the

00:34:47.771 --> 00:34:48.791
finals because that'll put

00:34:48.871 --> 00:34:50.494
Parco and Lovett at two and three.

00:34:51.434 --> 00:34:52.454
so they'll meet in the semis

00:34:52.494 --> 00:34:53.295
on the opposite side of the

00:34:53.335 --> 00:34:53.996
bracket from it.

00:34:54.496 --> 00:34:55.496
That takes a lot out of you

00:34:55.516 --> 00:34:56.398
when you have a tight match

00:34:56.418 --> 00:34:57.619
to get into the finals like that.

00:34:58.039 --> 00:34:59.780
So I like Caleb Henson's chances a lot.

00:35:01.641 --> 00:35:02.523
That's – man,

00:35:02.543 --> 00:35:04.965
so Joe's telling us here that

00:35:05.425 --> 00:35:06.806
it's not only one guy that

00:35:06.865 --> 00:35:08.527
has a potential chance at a

00:35:08.588 --> 00:35:10.309
national title, but two guys.

00:35:10.748 --> 00:35:13.931
And I know our buddy Dave Fuqua,

00:35:13.952 --> 00:35:15.373
who helped us with last year,

00:35:15.393 --> 00:35:16.653
is like that's when you get

00:35:16.693 --> 00:35:17.715
into that territory of

00:35:17.755 --> 00:35:18.896
winning a national title.

00:35:19.554 --> 00:35:20.134
Yes, Brian,

00:35:20.153 --> 00:35:21.114
I think you got something

00:35:21.135 --> 00:35:22.416
because we mentioned Joe earlier.

00:35:22.456 --> 00:35:23.356
We know it's a big weekend.

00:35:23.396 --> 00:35:24.577
It's ACC tournament weekend.

00:35:24.597 --> 00:35:25.277
What you got, Brian?

00:35:26.278 --> 00:35:28.219
Yeah, I mean, you know, ACC championships,

00:35:28.260 --> 00:35:28.440
you know,

00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:30.961
NC State's kind of been that that rival,

00:35:30.981 --> 00:35:32.682
that top dog that we got our, you know,

00:35:33.322 --> 00:35:34.423
circled on the calendar there.

00:35:34.864 --> 00:35:35.043
You know,

00:35:35.063 --> 00:35:36.105
what are the chances that the

00:35:36.144 --> 00:35:38.626
Hokies have to go out there

00:35:38.646 --> 00:35:39.306
and have themselves a

00:35:39.347 --> 00:35:40.668
little bit of a weekend in the ACC?

00:35:40.847 --> 00:35:43.369
I mean, you've always got that chance.

00:35:44.056 --> 00:35:45.376
And I think it's kind of interesting.

00:35:45.416 --> 00:35:46.737
Everybody sees NC State,

00:35:46.757 --> 00:35:49.119
they win the ACC tournament and like, oh,

00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:49.900
why can't we do that?

00:35:50.081 --> 00:35:50.782
But if you look at the

00:35:50.842 --> 00:35:52.023
national tournament standings,

00:35:52.943 --> 00:35:53.824
like the last 10 years,

00:35:53.844 --> 00:35:55.164
they've only finished ahead of us once.

00:35:55.925 --> 00:35:56.927
We always finish ahead of

00:35:56.947 --> 00:35:57.666
them at nationals.

00:35:58.188 --> 00:35:59.268
And the reason for that is,

00:35:59.329 --> 00:36:01.331
is the ACC has such a small

00:36:01.550 --> 00:36:02.351
wrestling conference.

00:36:02.711 --> 00:36:03.652
It's only six teams.

00:36:04.112 --> 00:36:05.474
So you don't get much of a gap.

00:36:06.175 --> 00:36:07.275
And the problem with that is

00:36:07.735 --> 00:36:09.657
where NC State wins

00:36:10.018 --> 00:36:11.239
championships in the ACC,

00:36:12.329 --> 00:36:14.811
is their guys, like at 197, for example,

00:36:15.112 --> 00:36:16.574
they'll have a guy that's a champion,

00:36:16.974 --> 00:36:18.675
our guy's getting third or fourth.

00:36:19.215 --> 00:36:20.717
And where we have a guy that's a champion,

00:36:20.898 --> 00:36:21.978
he's usually beating the NC

00:36:21.998 --> 00:36:22.958
State guy in the finals.

00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:25.661
So that points gap is really tough.

00:36:26.262 --> 00:36:27.382
It's going to be hard to do

00:36:27.422 --> 00:36:29.445
it based on seeding, unfortunately.

00:36:29.465 --> 00:36:32.307
I think it's going to be really,

00:36:32.347 --> 00:36:33.007
really tight.

00:36:33.949 --> 00:36:35.010
There's a couple areas that

00:36:35.030 --> 00:36:36.271
you could pull it off at.

00:36:36.992 --> 00:36:37.192
I mean,

00:36:37.192 --> 00:36:38.585
141 would be one because

00:36:38.626 --> 00:36:39.387
you're going to have Tom

00:36:39.447 --> 00:36:40.827
Crook and NC State's Ryan

00:36:40.867 --> 00:36:41.827
Jack in the finals.

00:36:42.166 --> 00:36:43.547
I mean, the semifinals, excuse me.

00:36:44.108 --> 00:36:45.847
But everywhere else and 157,

00:36:45.847 --> 00:36:47.548
Ed Scott and Bryce Andonian

00:36:47.568 --> 00:36:48.389
will meet in the semis.

00:36:48.809 --> 00:36:49.489
But everywhere else,

00:36:49.568 --> 00:36:50.630
it would be kind of a

00:36:50.650 --> 00:36:52.650
finals matchup for us to go

00:36:52.730 --> 00:36:53.969
over top of NC State.

00:36:54.291 --> 00:36:55.090
So it's going to be tough.

00:36:56.110 --> 00:36:57.291
A lot of things would have to go our way.

00:36:57.311 --> 00:36:58.612
It's possible that a lot of

00:36:58.632 --> 00:36:59.391
things would have to happen.

00:37:00.092 --> 00:37:01.331
Before I get into kind of

00:37:01.793 --> 00:37:03.373
the final questions here for you,

00:37:04.349 --> 00:37:05.869
Would you rather win the ACC

00:37:05.909 --> 00:37:07.231
title or is it every year

00:37:07.291 --> 00:37:09.572
be above them and say, fuck y'all,

00:37:09.753 --> 00:37:11.775
y'all cannot get above us in nationals?

00:37:13.315 --> 00:37:14.177
It's got to be nationals

00:37:14.336 --> 00:37:15.057
because that's where you

00:37:15.097 --> 00:37:16.619
take your next step to try

00:37:16.659 --> 00:37:17.860
and get to a national title.

00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:19.161
If your goal is not to win a

00:37:19.201 --> 00:37:19.902
national title,

00:37:20.621 --> 00:37:21.503
then why are you doing it?

00:37:22.163 --> 00:37:23.324
So it's got to be nationals.

00:37:23.724 --> 00:37:25.585
You want to get in the top four.

00:37:25.925 --> 00:37:27.007
That's when you get on the podium.

00:37:27.367 --> 00:37:28.608
That's when you get a team trophy.

00:37:29.588 --> 00:37:31.590
We did that back in 2014,

00:37:31.590 --> 00:37:32.771
Kevin Dressner and Tony Roby.

00:37:33.389 --> 00:37:34.570
when they were getting this thing going.

00:37:35.110 --> 00:37:36.431
So you want to get a team

00:37:36.471 --> 00:37:38.331
title and you want to get on the podium.

00:37:38.650 --> 00:37:39.630
So it's always going to be

00:37:39.670 --> 00:37:40.871
nationals at the end of the day.

00:37:41.351 --> 00:37:42.831
ACC is just a qualifier.

00:37:43.711 --> 00:37:44.012
Got it.

00:37:44.211 --> 00:37:44.572
All right.

00:37:44.791 --> 00:37:44.992
Well,

00:37:45.672 --> 00:37:47.152
this is what I got for you at the end

00:37:47.193 --> 00:37:47.532
here.

00:37:48.333 --> 00:37:49.373
If you watch us,

00:37:49.672 --> 00:37:50.572
and I know you occasionally

00:37:50.592 --> 00:37:51.572
listen and watch us, Joe,

00:37:52.034 --> 00:37:52.853
we do tell the truth

00:37:52.914 --> 00:37:54.514
Tuesdays after every football game.

00:37:54.673 --> 00:37:56.134
We come in here and we lay it on.

00:37:56.173 --> 00:37:57.914
We tell the good, the bad, and the ugly.

00:37:58.155 --> 00:37:59.094
We don't bullshit around.

00:37:59.894 --> 00:38:01.556
So now this is Tell the

00:38:01.615 --> 00:38:03.777
Truth Tuesday National Finals.

00:38:04.416 --> 00:38:05.856
I'm going to go to each weight class.

00:38:06.277 --> 00:38:07.797
You give me your expectations,

00:38:08.217 --> 00:38:09.938
wrestler names, however you feel.

00:38:10.759 --> 00:38:11.360
Let's start.

00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:13.840
You already talked about 125 already,

00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:15.081
but what's your expectation

00:38:15.121 --> 00:38:17.382
for 125 down at Nationals?

00:38:19.143 --> 00:38:19.963
125 is tough.

00:38:20.463 --> 00:38:21.664
I really want to see Cooper

00:38:21.684 --> 00:38:23.505
Flynn get into the semifinals,

00:38:24.125 --> 00:38:26.746
get on ESPN, put on a show.

00:38:27.813 --> 00:38:28.432
If he gets through,

00:38:28.913 --> 00:38:30.034
that is just bonus points.

00:38:30.054 --> 00:38:30.594
That's gravy.

00:38:31.173 --> 00:38:32.114
But I want to see Cooper

00:38:32.175 --> 00:38:33.414
Flynn get All-American and

00:38:33.434 --> 00:38:34.615
hit the semifinals this year.

00:38:35.235 --> 00:38:35.496
All right.

00:38:35.516 --> 00:38:36.255
What about 133?

00:38:37.577 --> 00:38:38.036
Latona,

00:38:38.077 --> 00:38:39.416
he's had a little bit of a tough year.

00:38:39.677 --> 00:38:41.297
The cut's getting tough for him at 133.

00:38:41.998 --> 00:38:42.639
His body's growing.

00:38:42.659 --> 00:38:43.699
He's really tall.

00:38:44.179 --> 00:38:45.099
He's from Alabama,

00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:46.739
like our guy Tally over here.

00:38:48.001 --> 00:38:49.001
Yes, sir.

00:38:49.041 --> 00:38:49.800
He's probably out there with

00:38:49.820 --> 00:38:50.902
a dip of snuff right now.

00:38:53.762 --> 00:38:54.682
I got one in right now.

00:38:57.492 --> 00:38:59.253
I really want to see Sam

00:38:59.273 --> 00:39:00.552
Latona All-American again.

00:39:00.572 --> 00:39:02.554
I think top eight is kind of

00:39:02.574 --> 00:39:03.474
the expectation there.

00:39:04.034 --> 00:39:04.293
Nice.

00:39:05.494 --> 00:39:06.735
What about 141?

00:39:07.976 --> 00:39:08.876
I think Tom Corp,

00:39:08.936 --> 00:39:10.356
the goal for him this year

00:39:10.396 --> 00:39:11.297
is to get to the next day.

00:39:12.077 --> 00:39:13.677
Sustain contention and get to day two.

00:39:14.478 --> 00:39:15.478
Because at day two,

00:39:15.518 --> 00:39:16.358
you're in the blood round.

00:39:16.619 --> 00:39:17.619
You're one match away.

00:39:18.958 --> 00:39:20.199
The blood round is like the round of 12.

00:39:21.092 --> 00:39:22.632
And that's where narrow it

00:39:22.652 --> 00:39:24.393
down to all Americans to the top eight.

00:39:24.833 --> 00:39:26.655
Get to day two, get to the blood round.

00:39:26.835 --> 00:39:27.376
That's his goal.

00:39:29.277 --> 00:39:30.597
All right, Joe, 149.

00:39:31.858 --> 00:39:32.478
National title.

00:39:33.778 --> 00:39:35.360
That's your boy Caleb, right?

00:39:36.021 --> 00:39:36.501
Stamping it.

00:39:36.820 --> 00:39:37.461
National title.

00:39:39.422 --> 00:39:40.242
All right.

00:39:41.423 --> 00:39:40.242
157.

00:39:41.844 --> 00:39:43.264
Bryce is so electric.

00:39:43.784 --> 00:39:44.686
The guy that won it last

00:39:44.726 --> 00:39:47.407
year from Penn State is coming back.

00:39:48.047 --> 00:39:48.967
Bryce had him on his back.

00:39:49.068 --> 00:39:49.909
Probably should have been a Penn.

00:39:51.563 --> 00:39:52.664
Anything could happen.

00:39:53.085 --> 00:39:55.085
Put him in the semis.

00:39:56.306 --> 00:39:58.509
And I think what you said

00:39:58.548 --> 00:39:59.550
earlier with Bryce and injuries,

00:39:59.769 --> 00:40:00.811
you think Bryce has that

00:40:00.871 --> 00:40:03.813
potential to get close.

00:40:03.873 --> 00:40:04.074
Yeah.

00:40:04.534 --> 00:40:04.773
Okay.

00:40:04.813 --> 00:40:06.295
He is super close.

00:40:06.755 --> 00:40:07.436
And if he's healthy,

00:40:07.737 --> 00:40:08.597
maybe he's not burned out

00:40:08.637 --> 00:40:10.298
from not having to cut weight all year.

00:40:11.059 --> 00:40:11.340
Right.

00:40:11.420 --> 00:40:11.820
Here we go.

00:40:14.402 --> 00:40:15.322
One seat to five.

00:40:16.884 --> 00:40:17.465
Just make weight.

00:40:22.679 --> 00:40:23.539
No DQs.

00:40:25.041 --> 00:40:26.621
No forfeits.

00:40:27.041 --> 00:40:28.543
Who is 165, by the way?

00:40:28.623 --> 00:40:29.224
Gunner Brady.

00:40:29.563 --> 00:40:29.884
Gunner.

00:40:29.963 --> 00:40:30.885
Oh, okay.

00:40:31.525 --> 00:40:32.905
Highly rated kid, right?

00:40:33.867 --> 00:40:34.827
Yeah,

00:40:34.867 --> 00:40:36.268
he was barely highly rated coming out

00:40:36.289 --> 00:40:37.170
of high school.

00:40:37.230 --> 00:40:38.871
All righty.

00:40:39.911 --> 00:40:40.492
Who's got next?

00:40:40.711 --> 00:40:41.132
We know about 174.

00:40:41.233 --> 00:40:43.873
National title.

00:40:44.574 --> 00:40:46.516
Two-time.

00:40:47.496 --> 00:40:49.038
Two-time.

00:40:49.077 --> 00:40:49.918
We want to see it hanging.

00:40:51.304 --> 00:40:51.864
184 coming up.

00:40:52.123 --> 00:40:52.465
T.J.

00:40:52.505 --> 00:40:52.824
Stewart.

00:40:52.905 --> 00:40:53.746
His dad's a great guy.

00:40:53.786 --> 00:40:55.146
I got to give him a shout out, by the way.

00:40:55.626 --> 00:40:56.407
Great person.

00:40:57.068 --> 00:40:57.989
I'm going to say T.J.

00:40:58.009 --> 00:40:58.429
Stewart's going to

00:40:58.469 --> 00:40:59.329
All-American as a freshman.

00:40:59.831 --> 00:41:01.172
And he's going to make some noise.

00:41:01.911 --> 00:41:02.273
All right.

00:41:03.193 --> 00:41:03.833
Got two more.

00:41:03.853 --> 00:41:05.215
We got the two big boys here.

00:41:05.235 --> 00:41:05.215
197.

00:41:05.255 --> 00:41:07.237
Tom Crook.

00:41:07.356 --> 00:41:09.117
I want to see Andy Smith

00:41:09.297 --> 00:41:10.619
just win a match this year.

00:41:10.699 --> 00:41:11.500
Just win one match.

00:41:11.519 --> 00:41:12.201
Get us some points.

00:41:13.961 --> 00:41:14.463
Stay alive.

00:41:14.483 --> 00:41:17.065
Hey, we're waiting. 285.

00:41:19.659 --> 00:41:20.920
Hunter Kafka has to hit the

00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:23.099
blood rounds or it's probably,

00:41:23.981 --> 00:41:24.820
probably curtains for it

00:41:25.201 --> 00:41:25.900
for a certain time.

00:41:27.041 --> 00:41:28.262
Does he have years left?

00:41:29.083 --> 00:41:29.643
He's got one more.

00:41:30.063 --> 00:41:30.302
Okay.

00:41:30.342 --> 00:41:31.304
So if you don't think he

00:41:31.344 --> 00:41:31.983
makes blood rounds,

00:41:32.023 --> 00:41:33.384
they go try to find

00:41:33.443 --> 00:41:34.664
somebody else to take that spot.

00:41:35.324 --> 00:41:35.605
Yeah.

00:41:35.965 --> 00:41:37.025
Cause Jimmy Mullins has all

00:41:37.045 --> 00:41:37.885
the potential in the world.

00:41:37.905 --> 00:41:40.186
Alrighty.

00:41:40.327 --> 00:41:41.608
So I'm going to wrap this up.

00:41:43.668 --> 00:41:45.168
We wrap this up.

00:41:45.248 --> 00:41:47.269
Hokey's team finish will be.

00:41:49.215 --> 00:41:52.117
I'm going between eight or nine.

00:41:52.677 --> 00:41:54.119
Top 10 nation this year.

00:41:54.139 --> 00:41:55.119
All right.

00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:56.360
And kind of a reveal.

00:41:58.101 --> 00:41:59.824
That's respectable considering, you know,

00:41:59.884 --> 00:42:00.103
all the,

00:42:00.184 --> 00:42:00.963
all the things you mentioned

00:42:00.985 --> 00:42:01.945
earlier with the injuries

00:42:02.005 --> 00:42:02.746
and everything else.

00:42:02.806 --> 00:42:04.788
And especially if you can get, uh,

00:42:05.407 --> 00:42:07.188
McKay and Caleb, those, uh, those natties,

00:42:07.230 --> 00:42:07.630
that'd be a,

00:42:07.650 --> 00:42:09.170
that'd be a good little sendoff.

00:42:09.530 --> 00:42:12.434
You're looking at six, probably six,

00:42:13.054 --> 00:42:14.094
right outside the podium.

00:42:15.155 --> 00:42:16.077
And you're in a year that's

00:42:16.737 --> 00:42:18.559
kind of having a little bit of a rebuild,

00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:18.878
you know?

00:42:21.027 --> 00:42:22.588
Is there any scenario where

00:42:22.608 --> 00:42:23.329
you see podium?

00:42:23.528 --> 00:42:24.789
Like is there anything when

00:42:24.829 --> 00:42:25.530
you're looking at these

00:42:25.590 --> 00:42:26.731
weight classes and the guys,

00:42:26.771 --> 00:42:29.634
could someone – take a Conor Brady.

00:42:29.813 --> 00:42:32.135
Could Conor Brady get over

00:42:32.155 --> 00:42:32.996
whatever's going on?

00:42:34.097 --> 00:42:34.297
Yeah,

00:42:34.336 --> 00:42:35.378
you're going to have to backfill with

00:42:35.398 --> 00:42:35.958
All-Americans.

00:42:36.137 --> 00:42:37.079
That's the only way to do it.

00:42:37.518 --> 00:42:37.659
Okay.

00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:38.360
So you're going to have to

00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:41.021
get multiple All-Americans

00:42:41.382 --> 00:42:43.362
and then have probably two finalists,

00:42:43.382 --> 00:42:43.824
maybe three.

00:42:44.463 --> 00:42:44.704
Okay.

00:42:45.405 --> 00:42:45.664
All righty.

00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:47.722
Joe, listen, man,

00:42:48.322 --> 00:42:49.362
thanks for the education.

00:42:49.983 --> 00:42:51.123
We really appreciate it in

00:42:51.143 --> 00:42:52.704
wrestling because, you know,

00:42:53.425 --> 00:42:54.425
I enjoy watching it.

00:42:54.606 --> 00:42:55.965
I've got some friends I text with.

00:42:56.447 --> 00:42:57.887
We appreciate you coming on tonight,

00:42:58.088 --> 00:42:59.007
taking your time.

00:42:59.489 --> 00:43:00.869
If that baby's sleeping right now,

00:43:01.389 --> 00:43:02.210
get your ass to bed.

00:43:04.751 --> 00:43:06.413
If it ain't, I don't know what to tell you,

00:43:06.492 --> 00:43:06.853
dude.

00:43:07.052 --> 00:43:07.934
Watch the rest of us with

00:43:07.954 --> 00:43:09.213
Matei and see what's going on.

00:43:09.233 --> 00:43:09.795
But, hey, man,

00:43:09.815 --> 00:43:10.655
we really appreciate you

00:43:10.675 --> 00:43:12.016
taking your time tonight, man, okay?

00:43:12.844 --> 00:43:13.563
Thank you, guys.

00:43:13.583 --> 00:43:15.204
I appreciate everybody having me on,

00:43:15.246 --> 00:43:17.246
and I appreciate the dad

00:43:17.286 --> 00:43:18.086
advice from Tally.

00:43:18.246 --> 00:43:20.068
I call Tally, and he's always got my back.

00:43:20.509 --> 00:43:20.969
Oh, yeah.

00:43:20.989 --> 00:43:21.568
Oh, yeah, man.

00:43:21.648 --> 00:43:22.469
I try to keep it real.

00:43:22.489 --> 00:43:24.351
Hey, listen to me.

00:43:24.411 --> 00:43:25.632
Whatever your wife tell you to do,

00:43:25.672 --> 00:43:26.552
you better fucking do it.

00:43:27.353 --> 00:43:28.773
That's what I'm saying.

00:43:28.793 --> 00:43:30.155
That postpartum is real.

00:43:30.355 --> 00:43:31.155
You better listen to what

00:43:31.195 --> 00:43:31.936
that woman's saying.

00:43:32.596 --> 00:43:33.077
Yes, sir.

00:43:34.246 --> 00:43:34.668
All righty.

00:43:35.148 --> 00:43:35.648
Well, boys,

00:43:35.688 --> 00:43:37.449
before we bring on Mattesis on

00:43:37.469 --> 00:43:38.891
the backside of the program here,

00:43:38.972 --> 00:43:40.393
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Now back to the episode.

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all right welcome back again

00:45:08.250 --> 00:45:09.630
we appreciate joe hunter

00:45:09.690 --> 00:45:11.072
rogers there taking some

00:45:11.112 --> 00:45:12.012
time get us a little

00:45:12.052 --> 00:45:14.835
education on wrestling and

00:45:15.094 --> 00:45:16.876
now let's flip it back to

00:45:16.916 --> 00:45:19.219
football gentlemen he joins

00:45:19.278 --> 00:45:20.599
us twice a year we love

00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:23.161
having him from 247 sports

00:45:23.262 --> 00:45:24.422
let's talk some recruiting

00:45:24.443 --> 00:45:26.425
y'all because 2025 is hot

00:45:26.465 --> 00:45:29.327
and ready metasis how are

00:45:29.347 --> 00:45:30.967
you living buddy what's

00:45:31.009 --> 00:45:32.550
going on guys we got the full crew

00:45:33.612 --> 00:45:35.572
Full crew, full boat tonight, man.

00:45:35.833 --> 00:45:36.652
It's your lucky day.

00:45:37.132 --> 00:45:37.853
It is your lucky day.

00:45:37.873 --> 00:45:39.313
I'm loving it.

00:45:39.333 --> 00:45:40.275
Mate, what's been up, man?

00:45:40.295 --> 00:45:42.094
How's life been in the last

00:45:42.114 --> 00:45:42.775
few months here?

00:45:43.376 --> 00:45:44.976
Life has been good, obviously.

00:45:45.657 --> 00:45:48.358
You know, with all the recruiting changes,

00:45:48.438 --> 00:45:50.858
with the portal, NIL, everything,

00:45:51.918 --> 00:45:54.420
it's just constantly going on.

00:45:55.681 --> 00:45:55.920
You know,

00:45:56.001 --> 00:45:58.041
took a little time after signing

00:45:58.081 --> 00:45:59.461
day to kind of, you know,

00:45:59.601 --> 00:46:00.762
step away for a bit.

00:46:02.083 --> 00:46:03.384
But, you know, right back in it now.

00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:06.621
And obviously right back in

00:46:06.661 --> 00:46:07.461
and I'm going to start this

00:46:07.521 --> 00:46:08.682
one off boys because a

00:46:09.322 --> 00:46:10.384
massive hire today.

00:46:10.983 --> 00:46:12.105
I don't care what anybody says.

00:46:12.405 --> 00:46:13.166
Massive hire.

00:46:15.913 --> 00:46:16.492
Especially with the

00:46:16.532 --> 00:46:17.393
recruiting implications.

00:46:17.434 --> 00:46:17.813
Especially with the

00:46:17.833 --> 00:46:18.793
recruiting implications.

00:46:19.014 --> 00:46:19.735
Gunner Brewer,

00:46:19.815 --> 00:46:21.315
who was formerly the wide

00:46:21.376 --> 00:46:23.297
receiver coach for the Maryland Terrapins,

00:46:23.836 --> 00:46:25.717
is now joining the Virginia

00:46:25.737 --> 00:46:27.639
Tech Hokies as the director

00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:28.980
of high school relations.

00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.300
I mean, I looked up Gunner's.

00:46:31.981 --> 00:46:33.041
When I saw this happen,

00:46:33.641 --> 00:46:35.023
I immediately went to 247.

00:46:35.023 --> 00:46:35.742
I did, Mate.

00:46:35.822 --> 00:46:36.163
I did.

00:46:37.184 --> 00:46:38.465
This is not a shameless plug.

00:46:38.864 --> 00:46:41.646
I went to 247, and I looked up, oh,

00:46:41.686 --> 00:46:42.586
who's this guy recruited?

00:46:43.802 --> 00:46:44.362
Jesus,

00:46:46.105 --> 00:46:47.626
he ain't no slouch when it comes to

00:46:47.666 --> 00:46:48.166
recruiting.

00:46:48.246 --> 00:46:50.927
So what's your takeaways on this, man?

00:46:51.088 --> 00:46:52.829
And seeing someone of his ilk,

00:46:53.289 --> 00:46:54.851
he's not going to be an on-field coach.

00:46:55.170 --> 00:46:56.030
He's strictly going to be

00:46:56.090 --> 00:46:57.992
dealing with high school relations.

00:46:59.295 --> 00:47:00.074
Yeah, absolutely.

00:47:00.114 --> 00:47:01.476
You know, just first off,

00:47:01.516 --> 00:47:02.416
I was a little worried that

00:47:02.436 --> 00:47:03.297
they were going to spoil

00:47:03.356 --> 00:47:04.856
this a couple weeks ago.

00:47:04.916 --> 00:47:05.157
I mean,

00:47:05.177 --> 00:47:06.697
he was on Twitter following like

00:47:06.757 --> 00:47:07.838
half of Hokie Nation.

00:47:07.858 --> 00:47:10.420
So I was a little worried

00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:11.039
they wouldn't get the

00:47:11.079 --> 00:47:12.219
announcement out in time.

00:47:12.260 --> 00:47:13.940
But, you know, exceptional hire,

00:47:13.981 --> 00:47:15.902
a guy that's been around for, you know,

00:47:16.282 --> 00:47:17.702
three decades at this point.

00:47:17.742 --> 00:47:18.842
Like he was coaching Randy

00:47:18.882 --> 00:47:20.164
Moss back in college.

00:47:20.224 --> 00:47:22.105
So this is a guy that, you know,

00:47:22.324 --> 00:47:22.784
totally...

00:47:23.465 --> 00:47:24.824
like gets it from a wide

00:47:24.864 --> 00:47:26.365
receiver coaching

00:47:26.445 --> 00:47:28.005
perspective knows how to

00:47:28.085 --> 00:47:30.565
identify talent and not

00:47:30.626 --> 00:47:32.407
only that but I think he

00:47:32.626 --> 00:47:33.527
you know he's a guy that

00:47:33.626 --> 00:47:35.588
has you know offensive

00:47:35.628 --> 00:47:37.527
coordinator experience uh

00:47:37.588 --> 00:47:39.507
from his time at UNC he's

00:47:39.527 --> 00:47:40.648
been around a lot of big

00:47:40.688 --> 00:47:42.108
programs that recruit very

00:47:42.168 --> 00:47:44.248
well so he's bringing a ton

00:47:44.268 --> 00:47:45.590
of experience a ton of

00:47:45.650 --> 00:47:46.650
connections I just think

00:47:46.690 --> 00:47:47.650
it's the perfect fit

00:47:49.894 --> 00:47:50.675
Yeah, when we were looking at it,

00:47:50.695 --> 00:47:52.016
we were like, all right, so you got,

00:47:52.936 --> 00:47:53.175
you know,

00:47:53.735 --> 00:47:54.717
you're pulling a guy that's an

00:47:54.856 --> 00:47:55.536
on-field coach,

00:47:55.556 --> 00:47:56.257
and now you've got him in

00:47:56.277 --> 00:47:57.597
just this off-field role.

00:47:57.637 --> 00:47:57.978
Like,

00:47:58.117 --> 00:48:00.818
that's an impressive way to eat off

00:48:00.878 --> 00:48:03.320
the plate of another Power 5 school.

00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:05.739
And it's twice we've done it

00:48:05.780 --> 00:48:07.280
in consecutive off-seasons, too,

00:48:07.981 --> 00:48:08.641
looking back with the

00:48:08.681 --> 00:48:10.081
Elijah Brooks hire last year.

00:48:10.141 --> 00:48:11.181
So, to me,

00:48:11.242 --> 00:48:13.103
just really impressive opportunity.

00:48:13.922 --> 00:48:15.423
way of filling in the role

00:48:15.983 --> 00:48:16.963
with uh with glenwood's

00:48:16.983 --> 00:48:19.284
departure so um I'm just

00:48:19.804 --> 00:48:20.545
I'm excited to see what

00:48:20.565 --> 00:48:21.965
he's gonna do and uh

00:48:22.025 --> 00:48:22.746
whether there's gonna be

00:48:22.806 --> 00:48:23.746
any you know residual

00:48:23.826 --> 00:48:24.987
impact with his history

00:48:25.007 --> 00:48:26.266
with y receivers in that in

00:48:26.306 --> 00:48:27.668
that room as well so we'll

00:48:27.688 --> 00:48:30.309
see yeah that's the

00:48:30.369 --> 00:48:31.309
interesting piece about it

00:48:31.349 --> 00:48:33.909
in my opinion I'll just say

00:48:33.949 --> 00:48:35.750
don't it up just come in

00:48:35.829 --> 00:48:37.371
and do something positive

00:48:38.603 --> 00:48:40.527
We got the wide receiver room going good.

00:48:41.007 --> 00:48:41.969
Just come in.

00:48:42.329 --> 00:48:43.793
We might need some help in

00:48:43.813 --> 00:48:44.653
some other areas.

00:48:44.693 --> 00:48:46.056
Don't come in there and fuck nothing up.

00:48:47.077 --> 00:48:47.639
Let them roll.

00:48:48.440 --> 00:48:49.041
Let them roll.

00:48:49.702 --> 00:48:50.182
Bad boys.

00:48:51.621 --> 00:48:52.942
What y'all got next, boys?

00:48:53.181 --> 00:48:55.483
Brian, Tally, Shelton, fire away.

00:48:56.105 --> 00:48:58.385
I guess my question is, go ahead, Brian.

00:48:58.585 --> 00:48:59.387
No, you go ahead, Tally.

00:48:59.487 --> 00:49:00.027
I'll let you ride.

00:49:00.088 --> 00:49:01.108
I was just going to ask Matei,

00:49:01.148 --> 00:49:02.949
what games is he going to this year, man?

00:49:03.369 --> 00:49:04.510
We see you all the time.

00:49:04.570 --> 00:49:05.391
I mean, you come on the show,

00:49:05.411 --> 00:49:06.311
but I don't think I ever

00:49:06.351 --> 00:49:07.193
seen you at a game.

00:49:07.333 --> 00:49:07.793
What games?

00:49:08.134 --> 00:49:09.155
Are you going to any games?

00:49:10.275 --> 00:49:11.576
Yeah, I'm planning on it this year.

00:49:12.876 --> 00:49:13.335
Unfortunately,

00:49:13.356 --> 00:49:15.016
I wasn't able to make it down last year.

00:49:15.036 --> 00:49:16.978
I went to the Rutgers game,

00:49:17.038 --> 00:49:17.777
which was away.

00:49:17.797 --> 00:49:20.278
I went to the Tulane Bowl game,

00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:21.920
which was interesting.

00:49:22.820 --> 00:49:24.061
Michael Pratt was up there

00:49:24.101 --> 00:49:25.981
in the press box eating everyone's pizza.

00:49:26.362 --> 00:49:27.681
Oh, that's why we don't see him.

00:49:27.742 --> 00:49:28.943
I forgot we was dealing with him.

00:49:31.684 --> 00:49:32.903
He opted out, but he was there.

00:49:34.204 --> 00:49:35.425
But in terms for next year,

00:49:35.605 --> 00:49:39.547
I'm super excited about Miami.

00:49:41.146 --> 00:49:42.728
Clemson is a huge one.

00:49:42.947 --> 00:49:43.327
Obviously,

00:49:43.387 --> 00:49:44.688
those two games are probably the

00:49:44.708 --> 00:49:46.489
biggest games on the schedule.

00:49:47.108 --> 00:49:49.289
And I think really this is

00:49:49.349 --> 00:49:50.431
the first time in a while

00:49:50.510 --> 00:49:51.911
that Virginia Tech has

00:49:51.990 --> 00:49:53.791
expectations of doing very well.

00:49:55.052 --> 00:49:55.293
You know,

00:49:55.313 --> 00:49:57.693
I think it varies depending on

00:49:57.733 --> 00:49:59.514
who you ask, whether it's eight and four,

00:49:59.554 --> 00:50:00.175
nine and three.

00:50:00.494 --> 00:50:00.715
You know,

00:50:00.755 --> 00:50:04.137
some people think much higher than that,

00:50:04.217 --> 00:50:04.836
which is fine.

00:50:05.277 --> 00:50:06.378
But regardless,

00:50:06.438 --> 00:50:07.498
I think like we haven't

00:50:07.518 --> 00:50:08.860
seen Virginia Tech go toe

00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:09.739
to toe against some of

00:50:09.780 --> 00:50:11.780
these better programs in a very,

00:50:11.880 --> 00:50:12.581
very long time.

00:50:13.202 --> 00:50:13.702
And, you know,

00:50:13.762 --> 00:50:15.043
last year was kind of the case.

00:50:15.322 --> 00:50:16.824
Beat the teams who you're supposed to be.

00:50:17.264 --> 00:50:18.284
Lose against, you know,

00:50:18.324 --> 00:50:19.905
the teams that are better than you.

00:50:19.925 --> 00:50:20.666
Yeah.

00:50:21.326 --> 00:50:21.925
So, you know,

00:50:22.005 --> 00:50:24.226
those are two that I'm looking at.

00:50:24.628 --> 00:50:25.327
And then, you know,

00:50:25.367 --> 00:50:26.668
the pipe dream is Stanford,

00:50:26.688 --> 00:50:28.329
a little vacation out there.

00:50:28.349 --> 00:50:30.250
I think that would be fantastic.

00:50:30.309 --> 00:50:32.731
So looking forward to that.

00:50:32.871 --> 00:50:35.052
If I can swing the flights, I'll be there.

00:50:36.092 --> 00:50:37.614
You said a lot of games, man.

00:50:37.634 --> 00:50:38.554
You didn't say the one that

00:50:38.594 --> 00:50:39.375
I'm thinking about.

00:50:39.996 --> 00:50:40.976
You need to clear that

00:50:41.018 --> 00:50:45.880
schedule and get down there to Nashville.

00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:46.280
I know.

00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:47.119
I'm scared, though.

00:50:47.481 --> 00:50:48.601
Last time I was in Nashville

00:50:48.621 --> 00:50:49.521
didn't end up too well.

00:50:49.661 --> 00:50:50.942
Okay.

00:50:51.242 --> 00:50:51.742
Yeah, we'll see.

00:50:51.782 --> 00:50:53.784
I don't even want to ask what happened,

00:50:53.824 --> 00:50:55.143
but we done had a lot of

00:50:55.164 --> 00:50:56.525
stuff happen in the last couple of years,

00:50:56.605 --> 00:50:57.284
a lot of losses.

00:50:57.324 --> 00:50:58.045
We had COVID.

00:50:58.065 --> 00:50:59.806
So if something bad happened,

00:50:59.826 --> 00:51:00.806
you might need to stay away.

00:51:01.387 --> 00:51:02.748
Are you guys all going down for that one?

00:51:03.905 --> 00:51:04.686
I'm going to be there.

00:51:04.726 --> 00:51:05.927
I know Tally said he's going

00:51:05.947 --> 00:51:06.447
to try to be there.

00:51:06.507 --> 00:51:08.547
Curtis, we got to – TBD.

00:51:09.228 --> 00:51:09.949
TBD.

00:51:10.268 --> 00:51:12.869
We're TBD.

00:51:12.909 --> 00:51:13.931
Nashville is only about an

00:51:13.971 --> 00:51:15.451
hour and a half from my house.

00:51:16.170 --> 00:51:16.851
Tally running the whole

00:51:16.891 --> 00:51:17.811
weekend down there.

00:51:18.391 --> 00:51:18.813
Oh, yeah.

00:51:18.873 --> 00:51:20.233
I'm going to be ready to go.

00:51:20.994 --> 00:51:22.014
I'll make it a four-day stay.

00:51:22.034 --> 00:51:23.034
I'm going down Thursday.

00:51:23.875 --> 00:51:24.175
Nice.

00:51:24.295 --> 00:51:25.175
I'm going to go have fun.

00:51:25.376 --> 00:51:25.936
What are you going to do?

00:51:25.956 --> 00:51:26.356
Oh, yeah.

00:51:26.396 --> 00:51:27.697
I'm going to take my wife out one night.

00:51:27.737 --> 00:51:29.117
We're going to have a good

00:51:29.137 --> 00:51:29.777
time before all the

00:51:29.797 --> 00:51:31.177
football shenanigans start on Friday.

00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:32.739
There you go.

00:51:32.759 --> 00:51:33.099
There you go.

00:51:33.628 --> 00:51:34.269
What you got, Brian?

00:51:35.532 --> 00:51:36.012
Yeah, I mean,

00:51:36.333 --> 00:51:37.193
the thing I want to talk about,

00:51:37.213 --> 00:51:38.195
we just kind of wrapped up

00:51:38.235 --> 00:51:38.956
winter workout.

00:51:38.976 --> 00:51:40.518
We're kind of getting into spring break.

00:51:42.681 --> 00:51:43.983
What's this period like for

00:51:44.003 --> 00:51:45.005
the coaches in terms of

00:51:45.025 --> 00:51:46.047
kind of ramping up some of

00:51:46.086 --> 00:51:48.090
those 2025 visits and things like that?

00:51:48.842 --> 00:51:49.402
Yeah, I mean,

00:51:49.422 --> 00:51:50.943
there's definitely a huge

00:51:51.003 --> 00:51:52.545
emphasis right now on recruiting.

00:51:53.326 --> 00:51:55.007
I think winter workouts were

00:51:55.047 --> 00:51:55.967
great for the team.

00:51:55.987 --> 00:51:56.226
You know,

00:51:56.266 --> 00:51:57.447
heard really good things about

00:51:57.487 --> 00:51:58.449
Keyshawn Burgos.

00:51:59.228 --> 00:52:00.769
I think he had a really,

00:52:00.809 --> 00:52:01.550
really good winter.

00:52:01.630 --> 00:52:03.251
So excited to see what he

00:52:03.291 --> 00:52:04.331
looks like in the spring.

00:52:05.052 --> 00:52:07.414
Some of those younger offensive linemen,

00:52:07.494 --> 00:52:09.034
Laith did a really good job.

00:52:09.715 --> 00:52:10.815
Johnny Garrett's a guy that

00:52:10.835 --> 00:52:12.317
I'm really excited about as well.

00:52:12.376 --> 00:52:13.898
I think we've been hearing more and more,

00:52:13.918 --> 00:52:16.039
especially like later on in

00:52:16.079 --> 00:52:17.139
the season last year.

00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:19.882
So I'm excited to see what he can do.

00:52:19.981 --> 00:52:22.523
But yeah, just wrapping those up.

00:52:22.563 --> 00:52:24.264
I think we're 10 days away

00:52:24.324 --> 00:52:25.445
from the first practice.

00:52:26.186 --> 00:52:26.985
So there's a little bit of

00:52:27.025 --> 00:52:28.646
time right now to kind of

00:52:28.927 --> 00:52:30.088
hone in on on the

00:52:30.128 --> 00:52:31.429
recruiting board and and

00:52:31.449 --> 00:52:32.650
really get things rolling here.

00:52:33.461 --> 00:52:34.762
Are you going to try to get

00:52:34.782 --> 00:52:35.983
to any spring practices or

00:52:36.043 --> 00:52:36.903
spring game this year?

00:52:37.463 --> 00:52:38.545
I'm hopeful that I can make

00:52:38.565 --> 00:52:39.644
it down to the spring game.

00:52:39.844 --> 00:52:42.606
So I'm targeting being down

00:52:42.646 --> 00:52:43.266
there for that.

00:52:44.648 --> 00:52:45.427
So, yeah, we'll see.

00:52:46.208 --> 00:52:46.648
All righty.

00:52:46.748 --> 00:52:47.048
Well,

00:52:47.168 --> 00:52:49.230
let's put a wrap on 2024 first

00:52:50.431 --> 00:52:53.492
because so many guys in this class,

00:52:53.532 --> 00:52:55.733
guys a year ago tonight mentioned,

00:52:55.974 --> 00:52:57.255
I remember Keelan Brody

00:52:57.355 --> 00:52:59.096
Adams was one of the guys you mentioned.

00:53:00.115 --> 00:53:01.277
We've got to know his dad.

00:53:02.264 --> 00:53:03.324
We've seen him develop.

00:53:03.364 --> 00:53:04.465
We saw where he rated.

00:53:04.905 --> 00:53:07.306
But Keelan, you got Gabe,

00:53:07.347 --> 00:53:09.007
you got Chance Wiggins, Quinn Reddish,

00:53:09.467 --> 00:53:10.469
so many names.

00:53:11.208 --> 00:53:12.469
But let me ask you this.

00:53:13.731 --> 00:53:16.592
What guy in that cycle, in the 2024 cycle,

00:53:16.672 --> 00:53:19.454
you believe is still by 247

00:53:19.454 --> 00:53:20.394
criminally underrated?

00:53:20.755 --> 00:53:23.096
Like this guy is not where

00:53:23.115 --> 00:53:24.476
he is way too loved.

00:53:25.184 --> 00:53:26.445
Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.

00:53:26.485 --> 00:53:28.766
I think this year they did a

00:53:28.846 --> 00:53:29.606
pretty good job.

00:53:29.626 --> 00:53:29.865
I mean,

00:53:29.945 --> 00:53:31.365
obviously it's like the highest

00:53:31.585 --> 00:53:34.706
average recruit rating for

00:53:34.746 --> 00:53:37.927
Virginia Tech since the database began.

00:53:38.288 --> 00:53:39.148
So, you know,

00:53:39.168 --> 00:53:41.108
they got a lot of quality guys.

00:53:41.148 --> 00:53:42.768
There's no real fillers,

00:53:42.829 --> 00:53:45.809
no guys that are really below an 86,

00:53:45.809 --> 00:53:48.289
I believe, from our in-house ranking.

00:53:48.369 --> 00:53:50.389
So I think they did a really good job.

00:53:50.429 --> 00:53:52.210
The obvious answer would

00:53:52.231 --> 00:53:53.411
have been Andrew Hanchuk.

00:53:54.050 --> 00:53:56.914
He was, he recently got elevated to an 88,

00:53:56.914 --> 00:53:58.255
but he was a guy that, you know,

00:53:58.295 --> 00:54:00.637
sustained an injury junior year,

00:54:01.016 --> 00:54:02.579
kind of turned it around senior year.

00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:03.780
Like this is a guy that if

00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:05.420
everything went according to plan,

00:54:05.460 --> 00:54:08.463
like he would have been lined up for OSU.

00:54:08.923 --> 00:54:10.326
Like he would have gone there.

00:54:10.346 --> 00:54:11.306
It would have been a done

00:54:11.346 --> 00:54:13.748
deal four-star guy, you know,

00:54:13.768 --> 00:54:14.849
with the injury stuff,

00:54:14.929 --> 00:54:17.030
with some schools questioning, okay,

00:54:17.072 --> 00:54:18.753
is he getting too big post injury?

00:54:18.793 --> 00:54:20.835
Should we move him to offensive line?

00:54:20.875 --> 00:54:20.994
Like,

00:54:21.255 --> 00:54:22.275
I remember when he committed

00:54:22.315 --> 00:54:23.737
a lot of people on Twitter

00:54:23.777 --> 00:54:26.019
were saying this guy could

00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:27.681
potentially move to the

00:54:27.762 --> 00:54:28.782
offensive side of the ball.

00:54:28.802 --> 00:54:30.744
But this guy's an absolute freak.

00:54:30.786 --> 00:54:32.768
I think Brent Prye called him a unicorn.

00:54:33.789 --> 00:54:35.170
He's also someone who's on

00:54:35.210 --> 00:54:36.931
campus now doing a really good job.

00:54:36.992 --> 00:54:38.954
I think he will be really good.

00:54:39.014 --> 00:54:39.974
I think it will take him

00:54:40.014 --> 00:54:41.998
some time before he really gets involved.

00:54:42.918 --> 00:54:44.278
but he's one of those guys.

00:54:44.318 --> 00:54:45.798
And then I would say another

00:54:45.898 --> 00:54:47.139
one would be Tommy Ricard.

00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:51.041
I think he's not talked about as much, but,

00:54:51.501 --> 00:54:51.782
you know,

00:54:52.001 --> 00:54:53.842
he's a guy that I think interior

00:54:53.983 --> 00:54:55.023
offensive line could

00:54:55.063 --> 00:54:56.443
potentially move to center

00:54:57.204 --> 00:54:57.983
in a couple of years.

00:54:58.103 --> 00:54:58.985
But, you know,

00:54:59.045 --> 00:55:01.346
he's strong as an ox and

00:55:01.646 --> 00:55:02.585
he'll maul people.

00:55:02.706 --> 00:55:04.626
So I think they did a really

00:55:04.666 --> 00:55:05.646
good job with him and

00:55:05.686 --> 00:55:06.588
getting him on board.

00:55:09.389 --> 00:55:10.208
That's pretty good because

00:55:10.228 --> 00:55:11.590
that was two names that I didn't even,

00:55:11.849 --> 00:55:12.070
you know,

00:55:12.847 --> 00:55:15.809
have on the names of people

00:55:15.829 --> 00:55:16.889
that I would have asked about.

00:55:16.949 --> 00:55:18.771
So that's why you're here, man.

00:55:18.971 --> 00:55:20.112
You give us the insight.

00:55:20.711 --> 00:55:21.032
You know,

00:55:21.052 --> 00:55:22.333
that's why we love you to be here.

00:55:22.653 --> 00:55:24.255
Tally, go back in your memory bank.

00:55:25.856 --> 00:55:27.936
You mentioned Hanchuk last July.

00:55:28.056 --> 00:55:29.418
I remember you talking about him,

00:55:29.458 --> 00:55:31.780
and you said if he hadn't hurt his knee,

00:55:32.539 --> 00:55:34.121
this kid would be way up here.

00:55:35.161 --> 00:55:37.704
I like that y'all at 247,

00:55:37.704 --> 00:55:38.844
even though he is a Hokie,

00:55:39.003 --> 00:55:41.025
y'all only can give him an 88.

00:55:41.025 --> 00:55:41.826
You know you give grief

00:55:41.865 --> 00:55:42.686
about that all the time.

00:55:43.427 --> 00:55:45.670
but I like what they did is they basically,

00:55:45.989 --> 00:55:47.251
they saw his production and

00:55:47.311 --> 00:55:47.851
senior and said,

00:55:47.871 --> 00:55:49.313
now this guy isn't an 85.

00:55:49.313 --> 00:55:50.353
He isn't an 80.

00:55:50.813 --> 00:55:51.173
He is.

00:55:51.335 --> 00:55:52.356
He's borderline a four star.

00:55:52.376 --> 00:55:53.036
I love that.

00:55:53.556 --> 00:55:53.717
Yeah.

00:55:54.036 --> 00:55:54.898
Which one of y'all got next?

00:55:54.938 --> 00:55:55.617
Brian tally.

00:55:58.721 --> 00:55:58.920
I mean,

00:55:58.940 --> 00:56:00.862
I think the biggest question I have

00:56:00.922 --> 00:56:03.806
is like of these guys in that 2024 class,

00:56:03.826 --> 00:56:04.646
who do you think can have

00:56:04.686 --> 00:56:05.907
that most immediate impact?

00:56:06.775 --> 00:56:08.056
Yeah, that's another great question.

00:56:08.096 --> 00:56:09.396
I think a lot of people will

00:56:09.456 --> 00:56:12.056
jump and say Kamari Copeland just because,

00:56:12.117 --> 00:56:12.318
you know,

00:56:12.338 --> 00:56:14.998
he played Iowa Western Community College.

00:56:15.059 --> 00:56:16.860
Like he's a you look at him

00:56:16.940 --> 00:56:17.880
like I don't know if you

00:56:17.900 --> 00:56:19.581
guys have seen like those videos.

00:56:20.021 --> 00:56:20.920
Oh, I have.

00:56:22.121 --> 00:56:24.123
He is unbelievable.

00:56:24.282 --> 00:56:26.184
Like he's absolutely unbelievable.

00:56:27.204 --> 00:56:28.686
He's got that mean streak in him,

00:56:28.706 --> 00:56:30.266
but he's also the kindest

00:56:30.286 --> 00:56:31.188
guy you'll ever meet.

00:56:32.068 --> 00:56:33.389
He loves Virginia Tech.

00:56:34.130 --> 00:56:37.032
That guy is a mauler and super strong.

00:56:37.152 --> 00:56:38.753
I think he'll fit in in the

00:56:38.813 --> 00:56:40.235
two deep at the very least.

00:56:40.815 --> 00:56:42.237
I think he could play right away.

00:56:43.518 --> 00:56:46.820
But in terms of true freshman guys...

00:56:48.862 --> 00:56:50.505
I would go with Gerard Johnson.

00:56:50.525 --> 00:56:54.108
I think he's a guy that when

00:56:54.128 --> 00:56:55.248
they went in home with him,

00:56:55.329 --> 00:56:55.949
they were like, yep,

00:56:56.048 --> 00:56:56.929
you could play right away.

00:56:57.791 --> 00:57:00.253
He's a guy that's built to play right now.

00:57:00.713 --> 00:57:01.693
I think it's interesting

00:57:01.733 --> 00:57:02.574
with his development.

00:57:02.594 --> 00:57:03.815
He's obviously an edge.

00:57:04.257 --> 00:57:06.838
He's a little bigger at like 240, 245.

00:57:07.338 --> 00:57:09.221
I think he's a guy that it's

00:57:09.260 --> 00:57:10.081
going to be tough to keep

00:57:10.121 --> 00:57:10.961
the weight off of him.

00:57:11.103 --> 00:57:13.965
In a college weightlifting program,

00:57:14.025 --> 00:57:15.005
he's really going to bulk up.

00:57:15.266 --> 00:57:16.588
and I'm curious to see if

00:57:16.628 --> 00:57:19.391
he'll slide inside later on in his career,

00:57:19.472 --> 00:57:21.114
but definitely someone that

00:57:21.153 --> 00:57:22.835
I could see making a run at

00:57:22.856 --> 00:57:24.338
the two deep as a true freshman.

00:57:26.572 --> 00:57:27.253
That's what's up.

00:57:27.574 --> 00:57:27.733
Yeah,

00:57:27.753 --> 00:57:30.335
that's exciting because that's

00:57:30.376 --> 00:57:31.295
definitely an area that I

00:57:31.315 --> 00:57:32.536
think they targeted heavily

00:57:32.556 --> 00:57:35.840
with some of the deep tackles we went on,

00:57:36.099 --> 00:57:38.280
some of the overall depth

00:57:38.702 --> 00:57:39.501
that we're trying to build

00:57:39.561 --> 00:57:40.483
at the edge position.

00:57:40.523 --> 00:57:42.423
So if we can get edge shored up and, again,

00:57:42.463 --> 00:57:44.105
get some bodies in there to

00:57:44.164 --> 00:57:44.826
replace some of those

00:57:44.846 --> 00:57:45.786
departing deep tackles,

00:57:45.826 --> 00:57:46.467
that's going to be really

00:57:46.527 --> 00:57:47.307
important for this year.

00:57:47.327 --> 00:57:47.307
100%.

00:57:47.907 --> 00:57:48.527
Mateo,

00:57:49.389 --> 00:57:51.449
we know you have to watch a lot of film,

00:57:51.510 --> 00:57:52.771
and we know you have to

00:57:52.811 --> 00:57:53.652
probably go to a lot of,

00:57:54.608 --> 00:57:56.228
different games and things like that.

00:57:56.369 --> 00:58:00.090
But out of the recruiting class for 2024,

00:58:00.090 --> 00:58:01.409
who was your, I would say,

00:58:01.429 --> 00:58:03.030
just personal favorite that

00:58:03.050 --> 00:58:05.971
you've seen that Virginia Tech pulled?

00:58:07.050 --> 00:58:08.411
It's tough to pick a favorite.

00:58:08.530 --> 00:58:09.351
I think, you know,

00:58:09.512 --> 00:58:11.192
I've really liked a lot of

00:58:11.211 --> 00:58:13.831
the guys that they brought in in 2024.

00:58:13.831 --> 00:58:15.353
I think, you know,

00:58:15.373 --> 00:58:17.652
I instantly go to Tyler Mason.

00:58:17.672 --> 00:58:20.414
I know he put up video game numbers.

00:58:20.454 --> 00:58:22.393
He was playing single A. Like, I get it.

00:58:22.474 --> 00:58:22.653
It was...

00:58:23.333 --> 00:58:24.894
not great competition and he

00:58:24.954 --> 00:58:25.936
probably should have been

00:58:26.356 --> 00:58:27.677
on another team but hey

00:58:27.777 --> 00:58:29.777
like this guy is legit I

00:58:29.818 --> 00:58:31.679
think uh you know he could

00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:32.539
be someone that you could

00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:33.860
put in that underrated

00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:35.141
category I think he was

00:58:35.181 --> 00:58:37.141
like an 86 on the composite

00:58:38.083 --> 00:58:39.382
he's a guy that I mean he's

00:58:39.443 --> 00:58:41.244
on campus right now he

00:58:41.423 --> 00:58:42.784
looks good like he is

00:58:42.844 --> 00:58:43.925
someone that's really

00:58:43.965 --> 00:58:45.387
pushing I know running back

00:58:45.467 --> 00:58:47.108
is set for next year but like

00:58:47.847 --> 00:58:49.369
and and and to say like oh

00:58:49.409 --> 00:58:50.329
he'll be the third running

00:58:50.369 --> 00:58:51.509
back he'll get one carry

00:58:51.568 --> 00:58:52.730
every three games but like

00:58:53.110 --> 00:58:54.670
this is a guy that you know

00:58:54.769 --> 00:58:55.710
really could play right

00:58:55.769 --> 00:58:57.210
away if the situation were

00:58:57.231 --> 00:58:59.150
a little different um he's

00:58:59.431 --> 00:59:01.831
he's a flexible guy uh he's

00:59:01.871 --> 00:59:02.972
gonna play at running back

00:59:03.032 --> 00:59:03.932
but he's a guy that could

00:59:03.992 --> 00:59:05.213
switch over to safety like

00:59:05.253 --> 00:59:06.054
he has that type of

00:59:06.134 --> 00:59:08.434
athleticism and you know

00:59:08.474 --> 00:59:09.494
I'm really excited about

00:59:09.534 --> 00:59:10.534
him he's put on a lot of

00:59:10.594 --> 00:59:12.936
muscle he's really um just

00:59:14.135 --> 00:59:14.996
Done everything that

00:59:15.175 --> 00:59:16.197
everyone has asked from him.

00:59:16.277 --> 00:59:18.356
So really excited about him.

00:59:18.376 --> 00:59:20.577
I mentioned Andrew Hanchuk.

00:59:20.617 --> 00:59:21.378
He's, you know,

00:59:21.498 --> 00:59:23.117
another guy that's really impressing.

00:59:23.858 --> 00:59:24.739
And then the last one I

00:59:24.778 --> 00:59:26.159
would say is Joshua Clark.

00:59:26.219 --> 00:59:27.159
Like he was my absolute

00:59:27.179 --> 00:59:29.039
favorite throughout the process.

00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:31.800
You know, Alexandria guy.

00:59:31.860 --> 00:59:32.561
I think, you know,

00:59:32.581 --> 00:59:35.181
he's I think the lone true

00:59:35.302 --> 00:59:36.442
cornerback in the class.

00:59:37.362 --> 00:59:39.043
Cheetah picked him out early on,

00:59:39.302 --> 00:59:41.184
and he's a guy that I really,

00:59:41.224 --> 00:59:41.784
really like.

00:59:42.125 --> 00:59:42.885
Fluid hips,

00:59:43.425 --> 00:59:45.166
reminds you of your classic

00:59:45.527 --> 00:59:46.927
Virginia Tech cornerback.

00:59:47.027 --> 00:59:48.208
I think he's going to be really,

00:59:48.268 --> 00:59:48.788
really good.

00:59:48.847 --> 00:59:49.829
Very excited about him.

00:59:51.086 --> 00:59:52.987
Yeah, and it is what's up.

00:59:53.047 --> 00:59:54.827
And the 2024 class was great.

00:59:56.168 --> 00:59:57.268
Not the biggest class.

00:59:57.367 --> 00:59:58.648
And I got some of them we'll

00:59:58.668 --> 01:00:00.268
hit on a little bit later with you, Mate.

01:00:01.009 --> 01:00:02.929
But I want to flip over now

01:00:03.250 --> 01:00:04.710
and let's pivot a little bit to Portal.

01:00:05.429 --> 01:00:07.570
Because last year, very big Portal class.

01:00:07.911 --> 01:00:09.331
This year, not as big.

01:00:09.871 --> 01:00:10.891
But with guys like

01:00:11.030 --> 01:00:12.211
Montavious Cunningham

01:00:12.251 --> 01:00:15.833
coming in from Georgia Southern,

01:00:15.853 --> 01:00:16.472
Georgia State.

01:00:16.592 --> 01:00:17.612
Always mix them up, y'all.

01:00:18.369 --> 01:00:18.610
State.

01:00:19.070 --> 01:00:19.371
State.

01:00:19.670 --> 01:00:21.110
Thank you.

01:00:21.371 --> 01:00:22.291
Sam Brumfield,

01:00:22.371 --> 01:00:24.273
Middle Tennessee at middle linebacker.

01:00:24.313 --> 01:00:25.014
Kelvin Gillum,

01:00:25.054 --> 01:00:26.313
the Highland Springs product,

01:00:26.353 --> 01:00:27.614
who went out to Oklahoma.

01:00:28.335 --> 01:00:29.715
And like a lot of guys from

01:00:29.735 --> 01:00:30.617
Virginia who leave,

01:00:30.657 --> 01:00:31.657
they got to come back home

01:00:31.677 --> 01:00:33.737
to find the place to make it happen.

01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:36.519
And Aeneas Peoples, an all-ACC performer.

01:00:38.021 --> 01:00:39.300
We talked about Nashville.

01:00:40.681 --> 01:00:41.461
In your opinion,

01:00:41.623 --> 01:00:42.742
could all four of these

01:00:42.802 --> 01:00:47.865
guys be starters week one in Nashville?

01:00:48.150 --> 01:00:48.791
Yeah, absolutely.

01:00:48.831 --> 01:00:49.030
I mean,

01:00:49.050 --> 01:00:50.612
that's that's the plan with these guys.

01:00:50.672 --> 01:00:52.172
I mean, they won't say it,

01:00:52.251 --> 01:00:53.612
but Sam Brumfield is pretty

01:00:53.652 --> 01:00:55.554
much walking into a, you know,

01:00:55.753 --> 01:00:57.213
empty Mike linebacker

01:00:57.253 --> 01:00:58.554
position like they

01:00:58.574 --> 01:00:59.695
struggled last year there.

01:01:00.074 --> 01:01:01.235
They needed to identify

01:01:01.295 --> 01:01:02.175
someone to bring in

01:01:02.996 --> 01:01:04.617
obviously has a lot of ties with Marv.

01:01:05.376 --> 01:01:06.398
from various stops,

01:01:06.557 --> 01:01:07.798
but he's a guy that will

01:01:07.838 --> 01:01:08.679
come in right away.

01:01:08.900 --> 01:01:09.840
He's built for it.

01:01:09.981 --> 01:01:10.722
He's seasoned.

01:01:11.081 --> 01:01:13.545
Montavious Cunningham, really like him.

01:01:13.684 --> 01:01:15.065
I think he can fit in a lot

01:01:15.106 --> 01:01:16.106
of different positions.

01:01:16.527 --> 01:01:17.867
Curious to see how he ends up.

01:01:17.907 --> 01:01:20.510
It sounds like he's probably

01:01:20.570 --> 01:01:21.572
that starter at right

01:01:21.612 --> 01:01:22.932
tackle as of right now.

01:01:24.434 --> 01:01:25.635
We'll see if that holds up.

01:01:26.195 --> 01:01:27.257
He seems like someone that

01:01:27.697 --> 01:01:28.657
know long term you would

01:01:28.697 --> 01:01:30.498
want him at you know on the

01:01:31.019 --> 01:01:32.320
interior of the offensive

01:01:32.360 --> 01:01:34.762
line um but despite him

01:01:34.822 --> 01:01:36.023
being you know six three

01:01:36.063 --> 01:01:37.244
six four he's got really

01:01:37.284 --> 01:01:38.846
long arms uh he's someone

01:01:38.865 --> 01:01:40.067
that can hold up at a

01:01:40.126 --> 01:01:42.128
tackle position so curious

01:01:42.168 --> 01:01:43.590
to see kind of what his

01:01:43.650 --> 01:01:46.192
plan is and then uh calvin

01:01:46.231 --> 01:01:47.532
gilliam he was kind of a

01:01:47.592 --> 01:01:49.193
late ad right after the

01:01:49.233 --> 01:01:50.894
bowl game I think we saw you know

01:01:51.695 --> 01:01:53.458
You mentioned that, you know, last year,

01:01:53.478 --> 01:01:54.719
a lot of portal ads this

01:01:54.760 --> 01:01:55.940
year is a little tougher

01:01:55.981 --> 01:01:56.942
just with the numbers,

01:01:57.143 --> 01:01:58.463
the scholarship situation.

01:01:58.483 --> 01:01:59.786
So, you know,

01:02:00.226 --> 01:02:01.467
attrition had to happen for

01:02:01.507 --> 01:02:02.248
him to come in.

01:02:02.668 --> 01:02:04.311
He's a guy that I'm excited to see.

01:02:04.391 --> 01:02:06.213
He also looks like an absolute unit.

01:02:07.034 --> 01:02:08.516
Just some of the photos I saw from,

01:02:08.795 --> 01:02:09.016
you know,

01:02:09.817 --> 01:02:10.637
uh, of him.

01:02:10.978 --> 01:02:12.958
He looks totally built to,

01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:13.980
to be in there and,

01:02:14.239 --> 01:02:15.681
and handle extended action.

01:02:16.161 --> 01:02:16.641
We'll see.

01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:18.262
I know he's been in a limited role,

01:02:18.322 --> 01:02:19.623
but he's definitely capable

01:02:19.663 --> 01:02:20.943
of being a full-time starter.

01:02:21.304 --> 01:02:22.885
And then Aeneas Peebles, he's probably,

01:02:23.065 --> 01:02:25.467
you know, he he's the crown of this crop.

01:02:26.067 --> 01:02:26.226
Um,

01:02:26.567 --> 01:02:28.108
he's the guy that's going to come in and,

01:02:28.427 --> 01:02:29.128
you know, really,

01:02:29.168 --> 01:02:30.329
really excited about him.

01:02:30.389 --> 01:02:31.550
I think like you,

01:02:31.650 --> 01:02:32.371
you think about all the

01:02:32.391 --> 01:02:34.172
guys that you lose from last year,

01:02:34.351 --> 01:02:35.052
and then you bring in

01:02:35.112 --> 01:02:36.313
someone that's maybe better

01:02:36.353 --> 01:02:36.994
than all of them.

01:02:37.393 --> 01:02:38.514
You know, I would hate to say that,

01:02:38.934 --> 01:02:39.114
but it,

01:02:39.414 --> 01:02:42.458
you know could be true um so

01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.601
definitely a huge huge ad I

01:02:45.641 --> 01:02:47.003
think all of them are very

01:02:47.043 --> 01:02:48.485
strategic a lot of them

01:02:48.565 --> 01:02:50.628
have various connections to

01:02:50.648 --> 01:02:52.068
the coaching staff so I

01:02:52.088 --> 01:02:53.271
think they did a good job

01:02:53.391 --> 01:02:54.271
even though it's a small

01:02:54.351 --> 01:02:55.612
class they identified what

01:02:55.632 --> 01:02:57.554
they needed uh and brought

01:02:57.574 --> 01:02:58.876
in guys that can you know

01:02:59.237 --> 01:03:00.277
plug and play right away

01:03:02.099 --> 01:03:02.501
Agreed.

01:03:02.521 --> 01:03:02.501
100%.

01:03:03.382 --> 01:03:03.961
All right,

01:03:04.902 --> 01:03:06.324
let's flip again and let's head to 2025.

01:03:06.324 --> 01:03:08.206
And I think Shelton's got a

01:03:08.246 --> 01:03:10.329
question for you concerning

01:03:10.349 --> 01:03:12.858
the class of 2025.

01:03:12.858 --> 01:03:14.039
yeah well I wanted to look

01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:15.882
kind of a big picture at vt

01:03:15.922 --> 01:03:17.822
recruiting um so I'm a big

01:03:17.842 --> 01:03:19.043
numbers guy and over the

01:03:19.083 --> 01:03:19.985
summer I spent some time

01:03:20.045 --> 01:03:20.925
working on a recruiting

01:03:20.945 --> 01:03:22.146
database last 10 years or

01:03:22.206 --> 01:03:23.768
so just looking at how

01:03:23.827 --> 01:03:24.889
classes ended up and how

01:03:24.929 --> 01:03:25.628
different programs

01:03:26.010 --> 01:03:27.210
succeeded particularly I

01:03:27.231 --> 01:03:28.731
looked at geography so I

01:03:28.751 --> 01:03:29.452
looked at you know

01:03:29.833 --> 01:03:30.793
different states virginia

01:03:30.813 --> 01:03:31.554
north carolina sort of

01:03:31.574 --> 01:03:32.655
those mid-atlantic

01:03:32.755 --> 01:03:33.615
recruiting battleground

01:03:33.675 --> 01:03:35.637
states and I found a couple

01:03:35.677 --> 01:03:37.239
interesting observations so

01:03:38.047 --> 01:03:39.148
Over the past few years or so,

01:03:39.168 --> 01:03:40.469
the state of North Carolina

01:03:40.510 --> 01:03:41.871
has absolutely outpaced

01:03:41.891 --> 01:03:42.652
Virginia in terms of

01:03:42.693 --> 01:03:43.813
producing NFL draft picks.

01:03:43.914 --> 01:03:44.534
And that's generally

01:03:44.554 --> 01:03:45.556
speaking how I like to sort

01:03:45.576 --> 01:03:46.677
of define success,

01:03:46.697 --> 01:03:48.480
because I think in order to win, you know,

01:03:48.559 --> 01:03:49.721
eight to 10 games, the power level,

01:03:49.740 --> 01:03:51.063
you got to have NFL players in your team.

01:03:52.106 --> 01:03:54.065
And from 2016 to 2020,

01:03:54.065 --> 01:03:55.407
the conversion rate for

01:03:56.126 --> 01:03:57.047
Virginia Blue Chippers

01:03:57.306 --> 01:03:58.746
getting to the NFL was pretty bad.

01:03:58.847 --> 01:03:59.086
I mean,

01:03:59.527 --> 01:04:00.608
one of the worst states in the country.

01:04:01.128 --> 01:04:02.768
So obviously, you know, things can change.

01:04:02.927 --> 01:04:03.867
And when Brian got here,

01:04:03.907 --> 01:04:05.228
he talked about recruiting the footprint,

01:04:05.268 --> 01:04:06.009
recruiting Virginia.

01:04:06.309 --> 01:04:07.088
I think people sometimes

01:04:07.108 --> 01:04:08.608
conflict those things because obviously,

01:04:09.050 --> 01:04:11.489
you know, North Carolina, the DMV,

01:04:11.969 --> 01:04:12.670
Tennessee, etc.

01:04:12.710 --> 01:04:13.670
Those are all big parts of

01:04:13.690 --> 01:04:15.050
Virginia's recruiting or

01:04:15.291 --> 01:04:16.251
prize recruiting footprint.

01:04:16.940 --> 01:04:18.440
So what I wanted to ask was

01:04:19.161 --> 01:04:20.943
with obviously prize got a lot of,

01:04:21.083 --> 01:04:21.423
you know,

01:04:22.784 --> 01:04:23.965
he's got a lot of commits from Virginia,

01:04:24.005 --> 01:04:24.967
some highly rated prospects.

01:04:25.827 --> 01:04:27.809
Do you see the overall

01:04:27.869 --> 01:04:28.969
talent level in Virginia

01:04:28.989 --> 01:04:30.130
and in Virginia high school

01:04:30.150 --> 01:04:30.851
football improving?

01:04:31.271 --> 01:04:32.152
And how do you feel like the

01:04:32.172 --> 01:04:32.932
staff has gone about in

01:04:32.952 --> 01:04:34.614
terms of just balancing, you know,

01:04:34.634 --> 01:04:37.076
how they've managed between, you know,

01:04:37.096 --> 01:04:38.157
getting guys from Virginia

01:04:38.317 --> 01:04:40.878
and Maryland and DC and North Carolina?

01:04:40.898 --> 01:04:41.500
How do you feel like that

01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:42.641
has all sort of come together?

01:04:43.327 --> 01:04:43.568
Yeah,

01:04:43.588 --> 01:04:45.309
I definitely feel like the overall

01:04:45.349 --> 01:04:47.371
talent pool of Virginia has gone up.

01:04:47.751 --> 01:04:48.592
I think it was a couple

01:04:48.652 --> 01:04:50.554
years ago I was looking at the top 10,

01:04:50.554 --> 01:04:51.516
and I was looking at guys

01:04:51.536 --> 01:04:53.217
that were highly rated four stars,

01:04:53.277 --> 01:04:54.318
and I was like, there's no way.

01:04:54.599 --> 01:04:55.780
There's absolutely no way

01:04:55.840 --> 01:04:57.943
these guys are rated this way.

01:04:58.242 --> 01:04:59.443
I think there was kind of a weird –

01:05:00.405 --> 01:05:01.746
mass exodus with some of the

01:05:01.786 --> 01:05:02.385
bigger schools,

01:05:02.445 --> 01:05:04.027
especially in Virginia Beach.

01:05:04.487 --> 01:05:05.288
A lot of guys that were

01:05:05.347 --> 01:05:06.469
transferring out kind of

01:05:06.528 --> 01:05:08.489
programs falling through on funding.

01:05:08.791 --> 01:05:09.871
They weren't able to attract

01:05:09.931 --> 01:05:11.612
as many top talents to their school.

01:05:11.652 --> 01:05:13.112
So those guys were going out of state.

01:05:13.753 --> 01:05:15.355
And I think that was a big

01:05:15.434 --> 01:05:17.376
reason that we saw for a couple of years.

01:05:18.257 --> 01:05:19.777
It was right around COVID

01:05:20.177 --> 01:05:21.619
that we saw a huge drop off

01:05:21.659 --> 01:05:22.960
in Virginia specifically.

01:05:23.320 --> 01:05:24.481
But I think things have kind

01:05:24.521 --> 01:05:25.581
of come back together.

01:05:25.961 --> 01:05:27.061
Like we see schools like

01:05:27.181 --> 01:05:29.304
Oscar Smith are on the right track again.

01:05:30.304 --> 01:05:31.425
bringing in more talent,

01:05:31.664 --> 01:05:33.684
at least collegiate talent wise.

01:05:34.125 --> 01:05:35.606
I think Maryland's always

01:05:35.626 --> 01:05:36.405
going to be huge.

01:05:36.766 --> 01:05:37.686
A lot of private schools,

01:05:37.706 --> 01:05:38.987
a lot of big time schools there.

01:05:39.327 --> 01:05:40.487
And North Carolina has

01:05:40.567 --> 01:05:42.327
really made a major

01:05:42.407 --> 01:05:43.788
emphasis on bringing in

01:05:44.148 --> 01:05:47.088
talent and really investing

01:05:47.128 --> 01:05:48.210
in high school football.

01:05:48.530 --> 01:05:49.570
So I think we've been seeing

01:05:49.590 --> 01:05:50.451
that for a while.

01:05:50.570 --> 01:05:51.771
North Carolina's definitely

01:05:52.150 --> 01:05:52.992
i mean there was that whole

01:05:53.032 --> 01:05:54.251
movement I think it was

01:05:54.793 --> 01:05:56.452
2018's class where you know

01:05:56.472 --> 01:05:58.914
it was like nc2vt because

01:05:59.235 --> 01:06:00.295
there quite literally was

01:06:00.335 --> 01:06:01.416
not enough talent in

01:06:01.476 --> 01:06:03.396
virginia to you know make a

01:06:03.436 --> 01:06:04.918
football team so I

01:06:04.978 --> 01:06:06.398
definitely think that you

01:06:06.418 --> 01:06:08.000
know the staff is cognizant

01:06:08.260 --> 01:06:09.239
of all of that they'll

01:06:09.260 --> 01:06:10.380
probably try to pick a

01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:11.681
handful of guys every year

01:06:11.742 --> 01:06:13.583
from the dmv from north

01:06:13.623 --> 01:06:15.443
carolina you know if

01:06:15.543 --> 01:06:16.423
everything were to go to

01:06:16.463 --> 01:06:18.405
plan you you would get it you know

01:06:19.485 --> 01:06:21.507
eight to 10 guys from Virginia.

01:06:22.367 --> 01:06:23.586
Your next highest pool would

01:06:23.626 --> 01:06:25.947
be from North Carolina and then the DMV,

01:06:27.268 --> 01:06:28.487
specifically like Maryland.

01:06:28.568 --> 01:06:31.429
So has been I think Virginia

01:06:31.449 --> 01:06:33.389
is still catching up in terms of talent.

01:06:33.650 --> 01:06:34.849
I think it's going to take a little bit,

01:06:34.929 --> 01:06:36.130
but there's definitely some

01:06:36.190 --> 01:06:37.010
legitimate talent.

01:06:37.050 --> 01:06:39.331
We saw last cycle, the cycle before,

01:06:40.411 --> 01:06:41.771
but it's definitely ramping up.

01:06:43.431 --> 01:06:43.891
It is to hear.

01:06:44.873 --> 01:06:46.213
Yes, really good news here.

01:06:46.835 --> 01:06:47.255
Yeah,

01:06:47.275 --> 01:06:48.757
let's start there because we got 20-25.

01:06:49.418 --> 01:06:51.340
We already got some verbals

01:06:51.380 --> 01:06:52.601
from some of those Virginia kids.

01:06:53.061 --> 01:06:54.304
You talked about the 7-5-7.

01:06:54.664 --> 01:06:55.565
We got a couple of those

01:06:55.625 --> 01:06:57.907
guys along with Carter

01:06:57.947 --> 01:06:59.228
Stallard in the boat right now.

01:07:01.592 --> 01:07:02.753
What's the buzz about the

01:07:02.793 --> 01:07:03.673
Hokies already grabbing

01:07:03.815 --> 01:07:04.896
three Virginia kids,

01:07:05.335 --> 01:07:06.677
including those two guys from the 7-5-7?

01:07:07.798 --> 01:07:08.599
yeah it's out it's

01:07:09.059 --> 01:07:11.983
absolutely huge I mean um I

01:07:12.023 --> 01:07:14.385
think specifically the 757

01:07:14.385 --> 01:07:15.746
has been a thorn in the

01:07:15.786 --> 01:07:17.528
heel for virginia tech for

01:07:17.568 --> 01:07:19.050
the past decade and

01:07:19.391 --> 01:07:20.391
virginia tech is really

01:07:20.452 --> 01:07:21.672
making major strides in the

01:07:21.753 --> 01:07:23.594
area I think you think of

01:07:23.795 --> 01:07:25.115
even last year a guy like

01:07:25.135 --> 01:07:26.498
brody adams I know that

01:07:26.538 --> 01:07:27.679
there's a lot of pessimism

01:07:27.778 --> 01:07:28.340
at the beginning

01:07:28.860 --> 01:07:29.740
you know you get a guy like

01:07:29.760 --> 01:07:31.262
that in the boat green run

01:07:31.302 --> 01:07:32.643
guy now you got two more

01:07:32.702 --> 01:07:34.304
green run guys like he was

01:07:34.563 --> 01:07:36.505
huge and and getting

01:07:36.545 --> 01:07:38.347
knowledge and jay into the

01:07:38.407 --> 01:07:40.668
boat um you know both guys

01:07:40.748 --> 01:07:42.829
really rely on him and you

01:07:42.849 --> 01:07:43.530
know that was a huge

01:07:43.590 --> 01:07:44.951
conversation being able to

01:07:44.990 --> 01:07:46.632
walk into schools and and

01:07:46.791 --> 01:07:47.972
you know have legitimate

01:07:48.012 --> 01:07:49.393
conversations how's my guy

01:07:49.434 --> 01:07:51.215
doing at school uh you know

01:07:52.396 --> 01:07:53.295
It's not just, hey,

01:07:53.356 --> 01:07:55.856
I'm here to see who's your best guy.

01:07:55.896 --> 01:07:57.617
Like, can we get someone to come visit?

01:07:57.677 --> 01:07:59.318
Like, you're not opening doors anymore.

01:07:59.358 --> 01:08:01.199
I think they're they're open now.

01:08:01.420 --> 01:08:04.521
So definitely the 757 has been great.

01:08:04.621 --> 01:08:05.681
I think Fontel has done a

01:08:05.721 --> 01:08:07.762
great job in Richmond specifically.

01:08:08.282 --> 01:08:09.262
And then, you know,

01:08:09.302 --> 01:08:11.342
we've seen the last two off seasons.

01:08:11.684 --> 01:08:13.563
The coaches have done chalk talks,

01:08:14.043 --> 01:08:15.184
going to different areas,

01:08:15.224 --> 01:08:16.604
making sure to get to the 757 this year.

01:08:18.166 --> 01:08:19.447
A lot of great feedback from

01:08:19.466 --> 01:08:20.226
the coaches there,

01:08:20.488 --> 01:08:22.208
like really excited about the program.

01:08:22.609 --> 01:08:23.310
I think, you know,

01:08:24.390 --> 01:08:25.911
you look back at the Fuente days,

01:08:25.951 --> 01:08:27.311
and I hate to say it, but, you know,

01:08:27.351 --> 01:08:28.313
there were some schools

01:08:28.353 --> 01:08:29.694
that completely closed the

01:08:29.734 --> 01:08:30.734
door on Virginia Tech,

01:08:31.034 --> 01:08:32.256
like did not want to send

01:08:32.536 --> 01:08:33.576
their kids to the school.

01:08:33.976 --> 01:08:36.377
And I think now, like very open-minded,

01:08:36.398 --> 01:08:38.199
I think people really want

01:08:38.220 --> 01:08:39.881
to give Virginia Tech the first shot,

01:08:39.940 --> 01:08:40.541
which is great.

01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:41.521
I think that's why you're

01:08:41.542 --> 01:08:42.481
seeing a lot of these guys

01:08:42.542 --> 01:08:44.384
lock in official visits right away.

01:08:45.463 --> 01:08:47.104
And, you know, build more relationships.

01:08:47.204 --> 01:08:48.005
I will say, you know,

01:08:48.045 --> 01:08:49.506
it's still like they're

01:08:49.525 --> 01:08:50.485
doing a great job.

01:08:50.646 --> 01:08:52.087
I think Virginia Tech is

01:08:52.186 --> 01:08:53.068
right on schedule.

01:08:54.167 --> 01:08:55.929
But but these relationships

01:08:56.009 --> 01:08:57.670
take years and years and years.

01:08:58.369 --> 01:08:59.270
And, you know,

01:08:59.289 --> 01:09:00.591
they're doing a great job now.

01:09:00.810 --> 01:09:02.811
And I think it's perfectly

01:09:02.851 --> 01:09:03.652
where they need to be,

01:09:04.271 --> 01:09:05.313
but still work to be done.

01:09:05.332 --> 01:09:08.514
And kind of to piggyback off of that,

01:09:08.814 --> 01:09:11.314
what what you run into with this,

01:09:11.595 --> 01:09:11.836
you know.

01:09:13.256 --> 01:09:14.237
You just start to get those

01:09:14.277 --> 01:09:16.837
kids back on campus and in the games.

01:09:18.418 --> 01:09:19.679
Just say we'll take Brody Adams,

01:09:19.719 --> 01:09:20.439
for example.

01:09:22.699 --> 01:09:25.421
The reason it's so big to

01:09:25.461 --> 01:09:26.502
have a kid like that on

01:09:26.542 --> 01:09:29.302
campus is he can talk to

01:09:29.323 --> 01:09:30.403
the people in his high school,

01:09:31.063 --> 01:09:32.264
not just about football.

01:09:32.484 --> 01:09:34.524
How's your quality of life in Blacksburg?

01:09:35.064 --> 01:09:36.005
Where do you get your hair

01:09:36.045 --> 01:09:37.005
cut when you're there?

01:09:37.284 --> 01:09:38.445
What do you like to eat when you're there?

01:09:39.430 --> 01:09:40.351
Where can I go fishing?

01:09:40.671 --> 01:09:41.252
You know what I'm saying?

01:09:41.292 --> 01:09:42.052
Things like that,

01:09:42.354 --> 01:09:44.475
the kids talk about besides football.

01:09:44.876 --> 01:09:45.877
But if you don't have people

01:09:45.957 --> 01:09:47.257
on rosters that can go and

01:09:47.958 --> 01:09:49.761
actually talk and give that, you know,

01:09:49.820 --> 01:09:52.143
that that that, you know, word of mouth,

01:09:52.724 --> 01:09:54.545
which is what we didn't have for so long.

01:09:54.845 --> 01:09:55.105
I mean,

01:09:55.126 --> 01:09:56.407
you don't you don't have somebody

01:09:56.426 --> 01:09:57.688
that's out there advocating for you.

01:09:57.728 --> 01:09:58.769
So, like you said,

01:09:58.809 --> 01:09:59.689
those doors have been

01:09:59.850 --> 01:10:01.652
opened and kind of takes us to.

01:10:03.444 --> 01:10:05.666
the next point of what we're looking at.

01:10:05.706 --> 01:10:08.027
You know, when you were here last time,

01:10:08.067 --> 01:10:08.268
man,

01:10:08.287 --> 01:10:10.288
you told us some stuff and I'm going

01:10:10.309 --> 01:10:10.770
to be real.

01:10:10.869 --> 01:10:11.810
I didn't, I didn't believe you.

01:10:13.752 --> 01:10:15.172
Like some of the names you was calling.

01:10:15.212 --> 01:10:15.472
I was like,

01:10:15.493 --> 01:10:17.354
there's no way that that key is

01:10:17.373 --> 01:10:18.015
looking this way.

01:10:18.055 --> 01:10:18.895
You know what I'm saying?

01:10:18.916 --> 01:10:19.355
Speaking of,

01:10:19.796 --> 01:10:20.957
I hate to keep bringing Brody up,

01:10:20.997 --> 01:10:22.478
but speaking of Keelan Adams,

01:10:22.518 --> 01:10:23.139
like I was like,

01:10:23.158 --> 01:10:24.399
there's no way that he's

01:10:24.420 --> 01:10:25.860
looking at Alabama.

01:10:25.900 --> 01:10:27.221
He's looking at Ohio state.

01:10:27.242 --> 01:10:28.722
He's looking at South Carolina and,

01:10:28.943 --> 01:10:31.046
And he commits and goes to Tech.

01:10:31.105 --> 01:10:32.929
So a lot of these kids that

01:10:32.969 --> 01:10:33.750
we're seeing now,

01:10:34.131 --> 01:10:34.752
you know what I'm saying,

01:10:34.771 --> 01:10:36.274
this kind of got a Hokie

01:10:36.314 --> 01:10:37.735
fan like myself like, oh, yeah,

01:10:37.775 --> 01:10:38.396
we got a shot.

01:10:38.858 --> 01:10:42.141
You know, what is it, Brett Clatterbond?

01:10:42.162 --> 01:10:42.984
Mm-hmm.

01:10:43.423 --> 01:10:44.746
You know, a kid like that that –

01:10:45.685 --> 01:10:47.028
somebody like me thought, okay,

01:10:47.047 --> 01:10:48.990
he's going to Clemson, you know, then,

01:10:49.030 --> 01:10:50.632
and you just keep watching and you keep,

01:10:51.033 --> 01:10:52.435
you know, hearing things and you see, Hey,

01:10:52.475 --> 01:10:53.476
we do got a shot, you know,

01:10:53.497 --> 01:10:54.998
we're in there, uh, you know,

01:10:55.038 --> 01:10:58.203
Deuce Edwards, uh, Messiah, the loan,

01:10:58.543 --> 01:11:01.627
the names go on and on of kids that, that,

01:11:01.648 --> 01:11:01.768
um,

01:11:02.529 --> 01:11:04.110
I feel like we have a shot at,

01:11:04.992 --> 01:11:06.533
but you're the expert.

01:11:06.613 --> 01:11:08.555
So out of those kind of high

01:11:08.615 --> 01:11:09.957
ranking kids out of Virginia,

01:11:10.458 --> 01:11:11.800
have you seen, you know,

01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:13.561
kids or do you have any

01:11:13.582 --> 01:11:15.304
kind of expectations for

01:11:15.345 --> 01:11:16.645
Virginia Tech with any of

01:11:16.706 --> 01:11:18.028
those high ranking Virginia kids?

01:11:18.423 --> 01:11:19.083
Yeah, I mean,

01:11:19.144 --> 01:11:20.524
I wish I could come on here and say,

01:11:20.545 --> 01:11:20.824
you know,

01:11:20.824 --> 01:11:22.645
100 percent this guy's coming in.

01:11:22.704 --> 01:11:23.546
I think, you know,

01:11:24.006 --> 01:11:25.025
this year is a lot more

01:11:25.065 --> 01:11:27.046
competitive in a good way.

01:11:27.167 --> 01:11:29.608
I think last year we saw

01:11:29.707 --> 01:11:30.967
some key battles that

01:11:31.028 --> 01:11:32.208
Virginia Tech was able to

01:11:32.309 --> 01:11:34.248
win and a few other battles

01:11:34.309 --> 01:11:35.409
they were never in.

01:11:35.909 --> 01:11:37.690
I think when you look at this cycle,

01:11:38.171 --> 01:11:39.211
you have a lot of talent

01:11:39.251 --> 01:11:40.431
specifically in Virginia.

01:11:40.452 --> 01:11:42.311
And I think Virginia Tech is

01:11:42.372 --> 01:11:44.353
at the very least in every single battle.

01:11:44.853 --> 01:11:46.493
And I think that's huge for this year.

01:11:46.854 --> 01:11:48.255
You mentioned Brett like

01:11:48.515 --> 01:11:49.536
this was a guy that was a

01:11:49.636 --> 01:11:51.117
shoe in for Notre Dame.

01:11:51.578 --> 01:11:53.658
Things kind of changed there a little bit.

01:11:55.637 --> 01:11:57.099
I wasn't sure that Virginia

01:11:57.139 --> 01:11:58.699
Tech was really ever

01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:00.100
seriously considered.

01:12:00.180 --> 01:12:01.282
And then all of a sudden,

01:12:02.962 --> 01:12:04.503
they're very much in the mix.

01:12:04.564 --> 01:12:06.326
I know education is huge for him.

01:12:06.645 --> 01:12:07.747
They put out a huge pitch

01:12:07.806 --> 01:12:09.747
about Virginia Tech's education there.

01:12:09.768 --> 01:12:11.628
I think the parents are very

01:12:11.668 --> 01:12:12.550
involved as well.

01:12:13.229 --> 01:12:14.131
He's a guy that's like

01:12:14.230 --> 01:12:15.931
complete ghost mode when it

01:12:15.971 --> 01:12:16.712
comes to media.

01:12:17.613 --> 01:12:19.194
Which is fine, you know, fair enough.

01:12:19.314 --> 01:12:22.176
But so it is tough to get intel on him,

01:12:22.235 --> 01:12:23.396
but he is planning an

01:12:23.436 --> 01:12:26.099
official visit to Virginia Tech,

01:12:26.139 --> 01:12:27.319
which just kind of shows

01:12:27.760 --> 01:12:29.560
his interest level in the Hokies.

01:12:29.801 --> 01:12:31.502
I think he's taking it very seriously.

01:12:31.523 --> 01:12:32.722
I think right now it's

01:12:32.802 --> 01:12:34.664
between Clemson and Virginia Tech.

01:12:35.685 --> 01:12:36.787
So we'll see what happens there.

01:12:36.827 --> 01:12:38.287
I know Clemson is absolutely

01:12:38.368 --> 01:12:39.890
cleaning up right now in Virginia.

01:12:41.171 --> 01:12:41.431
You know,

01:12:41.471 --> 01:12:42.893
they're they're a program that

01:12:43.092 --> 01:12:44.194
has a lot of things figured

01:12:44.274 --> 01:12:45.095
out when it comes to high

01:12:45.115 --> 01:12:45.855
school recruiting.

01:12:47.618 --> 01:12:47.878
You know,

01:12:48.118 --> 01:12:49.980
Mika Matthews is another guy top

01:12:50.020 --> 01:12:51.502
of the top of the top of the list.

01:12:52.222 --> 01:12:56.003
a dual sport athlete, um, plays baseball.

01:12:56.743 --> 01:12:57.724
I know they brought him out

01:12:57.804 --> 01:12:58.944
to the facilities there.

01:12:58.963 --> 01:12:59.003
He,

01:12:59.423 --> 01:13:01.385
he was able to kind of chat with

01:13:01.465 --> 01:13:02.805
everyone on, you know,

01:13:02.864 --> 01:13:05.145
both for baseball and for football.

01:13:05.185 --> 01:13:06.565
They see him as a wide receiver.

01:13:07.185 --> 01:13:08.345
He's a guy that sits very

01:13:08.386 --> 01:13:09.666
well with Virginia tech.

01:13:09.725 --> 01:13:11.926
Like he's, he's kind of cut his top group.

01:13:11.987 --> 01:13:13.606
I know UNC is big on him.

01:13:13.667 --> 01:13:15.087
They're the ones to watch out for,

01:13:15.606 --> 01:13:17.046
but Virginia tech is right there.

01:13:17.568 --> 01:13:17.627
Uh,

01:13:17.667 --> 01:13:19.108
they've done a really good job with him.

01:13:19.127 --> 01:13:19.167
Uh,

01:13:20.448 --> 01:13:21.988
Caleb Williams is another guy.

01:13:22.009 --> 01:13:23.871
He's been to Virginia Tech multiple,

01:13:23.911 --> 01:13:24.930
multiple times now.

01:13:25.391 --> 01:13:27.233
He's set four of his official visits.

01:13:27.712 --> 01:13:29.414
Tennessee is a big player for him.

01:13:30.175 --> 01:13:31.815
As you'll see with all these guys,

01:13:32.115 --> 01:13:33.957
I'm mentioning big name programs.

01:13:34.717 --> 01:13:36.139
Virginia Tech really has to

01:13:36.198 --> 01:13:37.220
battle against some of

01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:38.180
these big programs.

01:13:39.100 --> 01:13:40.942
But they have the last shot at him.

01:13:41.322 --> 01:13:44.203
You know, he's a legit 6'6", 250 kid.

01:13:45.543 --> 01:13:47.125
You know, he's he's going to be huge.

01:13:47.204 --> 01:13:48.024
I know that they're really

01:13:48.064 --> 01:13:49.525
trying to get bigger in the trenches.

01:13:49.966 --> 01:13:51.327
And he's a guy that is just

01:13:51.367 --> 01:13:52.367
an athletic freak.

01:13:53.608 --> 01:13:54.507
So he's huge.

01:13:54.568 --> 01:13:56.368
He's locked in his official.

01:13:57.149 --> 01:13:58.630
Deuce Edwards is a guy that

01:13:58.710 --> 01:13:59.729
I thought was going to be a

01:13:59.770 --> 01:14:00.770
hokey in January.

01:14:01.931 --> 01:14:03.832
He's someone that decided to

01:14:03.872 --> 01:14:05.395
kind of wait out the process.

01:14:06.536 --> 01:14:07.737
He's gotten a lot more

01:14:07.856 --> 01:14:09.358
interest from Power Five schools,

01:14:09.417 --> 01:14:10.479
a lot more offers.

01:14:11.260 --> 01:14:13.881
He does have an official visit lined up.

01:14:14.202 --> 01:14:15.603
I would say Virginia Tech is

01:14:15.643 --> 01:14:17.145
the team to beat for him right now.

01:14:17.904 --> 01:14:19.365
Really, really good cornerback.

01:14:20.546 --> 01:14:22.448
Probably out of all the guys on the list,

01:14:22.927 --> 01:14:24.189
he's the one that probably

01:14:24.229 --> 01:14:25.569
sits at the top right now

01:14:25.609 --> 01:14:28.030
in terms of my confidence level.

01:14:28.912 --> 01:14:31.113
Messiah DeLome, Warwick guy,

01:14:31.292 --> 01:14:32.333
if that sounds familiar.

01:14:32.354 --> 01:14:33.814
Oh, yeah.

01:14:34.595 --> 01:14:37.296
This quarterback came from

01:14:37.315 --> 01:14:40.176
the absolute beast, you know,

01:14:40.756 --> 01:14:42.796
is really in tune with OSU right now.

01:14:42.817 --> 01:14:46.578
I think another good staple

01:14:46.859 --> 01:14:49.538
of your recruiting is not only this cycle,

01:14:49.578 --> 01:14:51.319
the last cycle to Ohio

01:14:51.340 --> 01:14:52.899
State really tried to get a

01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:55.140
couple of guys from the commitment list.

01:14:55.820 --> 01:14:56.841
And there's a lot of battles

01:14:56.881 --> 01:14:58.682
right now involved with Ohio State.

01:14:59.122 --> 01:15:00.283
So, you know,

01:15:00.344 --> 01:15:01.463
Virginia Tech is looking in

01:15:01.484 --> 01:15:03.425
the right places to find some talent.

01:15:05.086 --> 01:15:06.065
Jalen Gilchrist,

01:15:06.266 --> 01:15:07.487
he's probably the number

01:15:07.567 --> 01:15:09.047
one guy when it comes to

01:15:09.307 --> 01:15:10.168
the recruiting board.

01:15:11.969 --> 01:15:15.711
USC is or South Carolina, I should say,

01:15:15.871 --> 01:15:18.393
is is the top team right now.

01:15:19.472 --> 01:15:20.434
I think there was a lot of

01:15:20.493 --> 01:15:21.354
ground to make up.

01:15:21.414 --> 01:15:23.055
He was kind of a kid and, you know,

01:15:23.095 --> 01:15:24.396
there are various guys

01:15:24.476 --> 01:15:25.077
within the state of

01:15:25.117 --> 01:15:26.917
Virginia that envision

01:15:26.957 --> 01:15:28.599
playing college ball in the SEC,

01:15:28.658 --> 01:15:30.640
going out of state, kind of, you know,

01:15:30.860 --> 01:15:32.782
going towards the nicer things in life.

01:15:33.082 --> 01:15:34.764
And I think Virginia Tech

01:15:34.783 --> 01:15:35.884
really had to come in there

01:15:35.984 --> 01:15:37.444
and make up a lot of ground

01:15:37.465 --> 01:15:38.886
to convince him that, hey,

01:15:38.945 --> 01:15:40.667
maybe staying at home isn't so bad.

01:15:40.747 --> 01:15:42.748
Like, here's the vision we have for you.

01:15:43.488 --> 01:15:44.770
He's a top 100 guy.

01:15:45.331 --> 01:15:47.051
He knows that he's loved at Virginia Tech.

01:15:47.886 --> 01:15:51.207
And I think while a lot of

01:15:51.228 --> 01:15:52.769
the people at 24-7 would

01:15:52.809 --> 01:15:54.810
say that South Carolina is

01:15:55.090 --> 01:15:55.949
on top right now,

01:15:56.369 --> 01:15:58.470
I think Virginia Tech is not far behind.

01:15:59.192 --> 01:16:00.231
He's planning an official

01:16:00.271 --> 01:16:02.273
visit that should be coming up.

01:16:02.773 --> 01:16:03.712
And I think that's a huge

01:16:03.773 --> 01:16:04.814
sign of his interest.

01:16:04.934 --> 01:16:06.033
If he really just wanted to

01:16:06.054 --> 01:16:06.675
go out of state,

01:16:06.734 --> 01:16:09.115
I think he's been to Virginia Tech.

01:16:09.155 --> 01:16:10.416
He's seen what they have to offer.

01:16:10.496 --> 01:16:12.136
But I think he really is listening.

01:16:12.837 --> 01:16:13.277
So we'll see.

01:16:14.997 --> 01:16:15.278
And, yeah,

01:16:15.337 --> 01:16:16.840
those are some of the top guys

01:16:16.939 --> 01:16:18.001
in Virginia.

01:16:18.761 --> 01:16:19.141
Mateo,

01:16:19.521 --> 01:16:21.724
you ain't got to say much on this

01:16:22.243 --> 01:16:23.805
because I know you got a job to do,

01:16:24.105 --> 01:16:25.367
and I don't want to interfere with that.

01:16:26.027 --> 01:16:27.368
But I got to speak on something,

01:16:27.427 --> 01:16:29.090
and I'm going to ask y'all.

01:16:29.869 --> 01:16:31.771
Have y'all seen Shane Beamer

01:16:33.113 --> 01:16:34.975
talking about his coaches

01:16:35.095 --> 01:16:36.815
and bringing in new coaches and people?

01:16:37.155 --> 01:16:37.997
Have y'all seen that?

01:16:38.457 --> 01:16:39.018
I have not.

01:16:39.177 --> 01:16:39.618
I've heard.

01:16:39.637 --> 01:16:40.859
I have not seen the tape yet.

01:16:41.859 --> 01:16:43.641
Shane Beamer is a madman right now.

01:16:44.853 --> 01:16:46.413
I hope he don't win a game next year.

01:16:46.594 --> 01:16:47.734
I hope he loses every

01:16:47.795 --> 01:16:49.015
fucking game that he plays

01:16:49.497 --> 01:16:53.260
and nobody goes to South Carolina.

01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:54.961
So just because you brought

01:16:55.020 --> 01:16:57.061
up Jalen Gilchrist, I thought about that.

01:16:57.682 --> 01:16:58.703
I've heard a lot about that

01:16:58.764 --> 01:16:59.444
recruiting battle.

01:17:00.005 --> 01:17:00.925
And, you know,

01:17:01.086 --> 01:17:02.966
I can't speak too much

01:17:02.987 --> 01:17:03.967
because I'm not there.

01:17:04.207 --> 01:17:05.328
It's secondhand information,

01:17:06.009 --> 01:17:07.569
but pretty reliable sources.

01:17:08.411 --> 01:17:11.413
Shane is a motherfucker, man.

01:17:12.975 --> 01:17:17.298
He does not, I don't know what it is,

01:17:17.538 --> 01:17:18.439
but he does not want

01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:20.681
Virginia Tech to do anything.

01:17:20.761 --> 01:17:24.604
He is out to bury Virginia Tech,

01:17:24.926 --> 01:17:26.907
and he's got some bad stuff

01:17:26.927 --> 01:17:28.007
to say about Pride, man.

01:17:28.774 --> 01:17:30.855
So I don't know, man.

01:17:30.895 --> 01:17:31.775
I'm going to be interested

01:17:31.836 --> 01:17:33.136
to see if Shane makes it

01:17:33.176 --> 01:17:34.016
out of this next year.

01:17:34.277 --> 01:17:34.877
You know what I'm saying?

01:17:34.917 --> 01:17:36.398
All jokes aside, you know,

01:17:37.838 --> 01:17:39.479
I'm interested to see what he does.

01:17:39.538 --> 01:17:42.240
I mean, being in the middle of SEC country,

01:17:42.701 --> 01:17:44.280
like nobody's checking for

01:17:44.501 --> 01:17:45.181
South Carolina.

01:17:45.841 --> 01:17:47.863
when you start talking about SEC races.

01:17:49.604 --> 01:17:51.104
So I'm going to be

01:17:51.164 --> 01:17:51.925
interested to see what

01:17:51.944 --> 01:17:54.006
Shane does because Shane's

01:17:54.025 --> 01:17:54.846
got a lot to say about

01:17:54.867 --> 01:17:55.867
Virginia Tech right now.

01:17:55.987 --> 01:17:56.948
Yeah, he's a savage.

01:17:57.028 --> 01:17:58.309
That's all I'll say.

01:17:58.328 --> 01:17:58.469
Yeah.

01:17:58.828 --> 01:17:59.368
I was going to say,

01:17:59.408 --> 01:18:00.890
I wasn't going to ask you to say much,

01:18:00.989 --> 01:18:04.332
but I've got some stuff there.

01:18:04.771 --> 01:18:06.233
It's crazy to me because I'm like –

01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:08.502
I'm thinking, like, we're Virginia Tech,

01:18:08.542 --> 01:18:08.722
man.

01:18:08.762 --> 01:18:10.645
We ain't making no noise for

01:18:10.706 --> 01:18:11.327
real like that.

01:18:11.827 --> 01:18:12.988
But he really hurt, man.

01:18:13.329 --> 01:18:13.989
He is hurt.

01:18:14.371 --> 01:18:15.032
You mean to tell you when

01:18:15.051 --> 01:18:16.253
you hear something like that,

01:18:17.255 --> 01:18:18.537
we can say in here, we can talk about it.

01:18:18.556 --> 01:18:20.038
That sounds like somebody's scared.

01:18:20.935 --> 01:18:23.096
Because he knows – well, hold on.

01:18:23.636 --> 01:18:24.337
He was there.

01:18:24.817 --> 01:18:26.217
He knows what happens when

01:18:26.257 --> 01:18:28.217
it starts rolling and they

01:18:28.257 --> 01:18:30.378
go down to 7-5 and they hit

01:18:30.418 --> 01:18:31.479
into North Carolina and

01:18:31.519 --> 01:18:32.759
they go into South Carolina

01:18:32.779 --> 01:18:33.920
and they go into Tennessee

01:18:33.939 --> 01:18:35.319
and they start pulling guys out.

01:18:35.880 --> 01:18:37.121
He knows if that happens

01:18:37.180 --> 01:18:38.381
because of where he's recruiting,

01:18:38.661 --> 01:18:39.761
that's his top guys.

01:18:40.020 --> 01:18:41.162
And if we start picking them off,

01:18:41.402 --> 01:18:43.015
he knows he's –

01:18:43.015 --> 01:18:43.194
Well,

01:18:43.234 --> 01:18:44.657
right now he knows he has to go to

01:18:44.697 --> 01:18:46.038
the Mid-Atlantic to pull

01:18:46.078 --> 01:18:49.703
the caliber of players to compete.

01:18:49.783 --> 01:18:50.484
Just compete.

01:18:50.524 --> 01:18:51.524
Not even do any winning.

01:18:51.824 --> 01:18:53.606
Just fucking compete in the SEC.

01:18:54.668 --> 01:18:56.291
So if we start eating off

01:18:56.530 --> 01:18:57.972
where he feels comfortable...

01:18:59.140 --> 01:19:00.881
You know, I'm with Curtis a little bit.

01:19:00.900 --> 01:19:05.342
He's playing a little scared.

01:19:05.783 --> 01:19:06.863
He's full court press on

01:19:06.882 --> 01:19:07.722
Gilchrist right now.

01:19:08.382 --> 01:19:10.264
He's the one that's making the trips.

01:19:10.463 --> 01:19:12.583
He's full court press on

01:19:12.623 --> 01:19:15.265
that because he's a little nervous.

01:19:15.845 --> 01:19:16.664
But that's okay.

01:19:17.064 --> 01:19:17.625
That's okay.

01:19:18.345 --> 01:19:19.345
But you know what, Mate,

01:19:19.365 --> 01:19:20.046
you probably can speak a

01:19:20.126 --> 01:19:20.945
little bit to this,

01:19:21.065 --> 01:19:24.266
is when he got that job and

01:19:24.306 --> 01:19:26.148
where we were coming out

01:19:26.828 --> 01:19:28.007
and who he had on staff,

01:19:29.372 --> 01:19:30.252
Nobody was scared.

01:19:31.072 --> 01:19:33.212
Now you got Brent Prye, ace recruiter.

01:19:33.273 --> 01:19:34.893
You got Fontel, ace.

01:19:36.632 --> 01:19:37.993
The landscape has changed,

01:19:38.033 --> 01:19:39.413
so he knows he looks up at

01:19:39.434 --> 01:19:40.694
the alma mater and says,

01:19:41.453 --> 01:19:42.873
they ain't joking no more up there.

01:19:44.755 --> 01:19:48.015
Well, I'll say this just from my,

01:19:48.635 --> 01:19:49.716
some of it's speculation,

01:19:49.756 --> 01:19:50.975
but some of it's, like I said,

01:19:51.015 --> 01:19:52.256
some secondhand information.

01:19:52.636 --> 01:19:54.216
So the wide receiver coach

01:19:54.237 --> 01:19:56.096
that he had there, right, that left,

01:19:57.115 --> 01:19:59.837
he got demoted as a result

01:19:59.896 --> 01:20:02.979
of not getting certain recruits.

01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:05.560
I'll say that.

01:20:05.859 --> 01:20:08.862
So what happened with him is

01:20:09.962 --> 01:20:11.422
he got demoted because he didn't,

01:20:12.118 --> 01:20:13.319
get certain recruits that

01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:14.159
they thought were in their

01:20:14.180 --> 01:20:17.902
boat and I was like okay I

01:20:17.942 --> 01:20:18.601
ain't gonna say I didn't

01:20:18.622 --> 01:20:19.783
believe it but when he came

01:20:19.903 --> 01:20:21.304
out on the Curtis you gotta

01:20:21.323 --> 01:20:22.743
go watch it he's in the

01:20:22.783 --> 01:20:23.744
press conference he goes

01:20:24.204 --> 01:20:25.746
yeah I don't you know this

01:20:25.786 --> 01:20:27.127
guy he left and we got our

01:20:27.186 --> 01:20:28.247
money back from him and

01:20:28.306 --> 01:20:29.747
more and we brought in

01:20:29.807 --> 01:20:30.648
another guy that's even

01:20:30.688 --> 01:20:31.769
better than him yeah I was

01:20:31.809 --> 01:20:33.710
like I've just not heard a

01:20:33.810 --> 01:20:36.511
coach come out and say that

01:20:36.650 --> 01:20:37.771
and some you know what I'm saying like

01:20:38.493 --> 01:20:40.314
I guess if I'm a fan,

01:20:40.375 --> 01:20:42.516
I might try to gas it and go, man,

01:20:42.617 --> 01:20:43.497
our coach is real.

01:20:43.738 --> 01:20:45.439
But that's just not diplomatic.

01:20:45.479 --> 01:20:46.621
You just don't do that.

01:20:46.661 --> 01:20:47.863
Yeah, you don't do that.

01:20:47.922 --> 01:20:49.304
You just don't do that.

01:20:49.704 --> 01:20:50.524
And it's like, I said,

01:20:50.564 --> 01:20:52.186
does he have Asperger's or something?

01:20:52.226 --> 01:20:53.748
Like, he just – like,

01:20:53.769 --> 01:20:55.791
he comes out and says stuff like –

01:20:55.791 --> 01:20:57.091
When you go back and look at

01:20:57.152 --> 01:20:58.233
the stuff that he said,

01:20:58.753 --> 01:21:00.956
like about the refs,

01:21:01.015 --> 01:21:03.016
like somebody was eating hot dogs.

01:21:03.037 --> 01:21:05.640
It'd just be crazy, man.

01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:07.360
So, yeah, Shane.

01:21:07.881 --> 01:21:09.462
Shane, we on your ass all year.

01:21:10.042 --> 01:21:11.304
You better not fuck up, boy.

01:21:11.344 --> 01:21:12.345
We on your ass, Shane.

01:21:12.805 --> 01:21:13.105
Tally,

01:21:13.126 --> 01:21:14.606
you make me stay up until 1 o'clock

01:21:15.387 --> 01:21:16.908
today looking at all these videos.

01:21:16.948 --> 01:21:18.270
I'm going to get your ass next time.

01:21:18.289 --> 01:21:18.551
We'll see you.

01:21:19.470 --> 01:21:20.532
Hey, I'll send it to you.

01:21:20.591 --> 01:21:21.332
It's quick.

01:21:21.893 --> 01:21:23.213
Send it to me tomorrow morning.

01:21:23.234 --> 01:21:24.475
I'll watch it at the bus stop.

01:21:24.734 --> 01:21:25.295
Okay.

01:21:25.335 --> 01:21:26.256
We can do that.

01:21:26.315 --> 01:21:28.577
All right, I'm going to flip back.

01:21:28.676 --> 01:21:31.198
I want to talk about a non-Virginia kid,

01:21:31.238 --> 01:21:32.239
but someone with a direct

01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:33.300
relation to Virginia.

01:21:33.340 --> 01:21:34.381
Let's talk about Faheem

01:21:34.501 --> 01:21:35.721
Glean up out of Maryland.

01:21:36.682 --> 01:21:37.483
We got to ask it.

01:21:37.542 --> 01:21:37.863
I mean,

01:21:38.023 --> 01:21:39.704
Faheem is a top 20 player in the country.

01:21:39.725 --> 01:21:40.085
He's elite.

01:21:40.465 --> 01:21:40.864
He's elite.

01:21:40.885 --> 01:21:41.826
He's a five-star player.

01:21:43.331 --> 01:21:44.572
Little brother has had a

01:21:44.671 --> 01:21:46.152
tremendous two years at

01:21:46.212 --> 01:21:47.412
Virginia Tech so far.

01:21:47.953 --> 01:21:49.894
Tremendous All-American his freshman year.

01:21:51.335 --> 01:21:52.775
And did not really have the

01:21:52.855 --> 01:21:53.695
sophomore slump.

01:21:54.376 --> 01:21:55.917
He didn't have the massive step.

01:21:56.396 --> 01:21:58.518
He took a solid step to that second year.

01:21:58.537 --> 01:21:58.997
But, you know,

01:21:59.018 --> 01:21:59.719
most of the time we talk

01:21:59.738 --> 01:22:01.340
about sophomore slumps, guys struggling.

01:22:02.560 --> 01:22:03.301
All right,

01:22:03.320 --> 01:22:04.480
I'm going to throw this one out

01:22:04.501 --> 01:22:05.721
there for my fellow.

01:22:05.801 --> 01:22:08.903
So do we have a Lloyd Christmas with him?

01:22:10.024 --> 01:22:11.323
Do we have a chance with him?

01:22:12.364 --> 01:22:12.484
Or –

01:22:13.649 --> 01:22:14.291
You know what?

01:22:14.591 --> 01:22:18.082
Because little brother's got

01:22:18.143 --> 01:22:19.046
one more year left.

01:22:21.055 --> 01:22:23.577
Man, his brother's on campus.

01:22:23.596 --> 01:22:24.658
He's taking trips.

01:22:25.057 --> 01:22:25.599
I know he is.

01:22:25.658 --> 01:22:27.239
I say you got a chance.

01:22:27.260 --> 01:22:28.180
I ain't going to say how big

01:22:28.201 --> 01:22:28.940
of a chance it is,

01:22:28.980 --> 01:22:31.023
but I say you got a chance.

01:22:31.484 --> 01:22:32.203
You know what I'm saying?

01:22:32.224 --> 01:22:35.086
It comes down to production, too.

01:22:35.287 --> 01:22:36.828
I mean, with a lot of the guys, I think,

01:22:36.868 --> 01:22:37.127
like,

01:22:37.708 --> 01:22:40.490
we took a step last year from where

01:22:40.511 --> 01:22:40.850
we were.

01:22:40.911 --> 01:22:42.733
As you've seen, which, Pry,

01:22:42.832 --> 01:22:43.814
sell the shirts, man.

01:22:44.654 --> 01:22:45.434
Sell the shirts.

01:22:45.474 --> 01:22:46.795
We see the shirts with the

01:22:46.895 --> 01:22:47.954
three and the seven on the

01:22:47.994 --> 01:22:50.355
back and then the question mark.

01:22:50.536 --> 01:22:51.556
We want them shirts.

01:22:52.936 --> 01:22:53.938
What is that going to be?

01:22:53.957 --> 01:22:55.979
We had three, then we had seven.

01:22:56.479 --> 01:22:57.838
What is this next year going to be?

01:22:57.918 --> 01:22:59.920
That's going to be a big thing, man.

01:23:01.161 --> 01:23:02.081
What are you hearing me say?

01:23:03.481 --> 01:23:04.582
I think there's,

01:23:05.423 --> 01:23:07.265
not to sound too overly optimistic,

01:23:07.405 --> 01:23:09.948
but there is a very serious chance here.

01:23:09.969 --> 01:23:12.792
Virginia Tech is very much in the running.

01:23:12.931 --> 01:23:13.893
Maryland's another one

01:23:13.912 --> 01:23:15.114
that's very close with him.

01:23:15.715 --> 01:23:18.217
He's obviously, as you mentioned,

01:23:18.257 --> 01:23:19.298
a top 20 guy.

01:23:19.439 --> 01:23:20.780
Alabama was all over him.

01:23:20.801 --> 01:23:22.882
I think they were the favorites early on.

01:23:23.462 --> 01:23:24.965
And then Nick Saban left and

01:23:25.125 --> 01:23:26.327
things kind of, you know,

01:23:26.686 --> 01:23:27.488
took a turn there.

01:23:29.109 --> 01:23:30.891
LSU is a big one for him.

01:23:30.912 --> 01:23:32.533
And then again, Ohio State,

01:23:33.295 --> 01:23:34.577
they've been making moves with him.

01:23:35.618 --> 01:23:36.618
So he has, you know,

01:23:36.639 --> 01:23:37.859
there's very legitimate

01:23:37.899 --> 01:23:39.561
competition and all out

01:23:39.622 --> 01:23:40.804
competition for him.

01:23:41.385 --> 01:23:42.966
He's a guy that, you know, it's.

01:23:43.646 --> 01:23:46.088
a little similar in a sense

01:23:46.168 --> 01:23:47.270
to the dax hollyfield

01:23:47.310 --> 01:23:48.931
situation I know he's much

01:23:48.971 --> 01:23:51.033
higher ranked but it's you

01:23:51.094 --> 01:23:52.215
have all these nice things

01:23:52.274 --> 01:23:53.416
in front of you he's gonna

01:23:53.456 --> 01:23:54.617
take all his official

01:23:54.657 --> 01:23:56.099
visits he's gonna hear the

01:23:56.158 --> 01:23:58.020
best pitches from all the best schools

01:23:58.680 --> 01:23:59.520
And I think, you know,

01:24:00.122 --> 01:24:02.002
the playing card for Virginia Tech is,

01:24:02.141 --> 01:24:03.143
you know what you have there.

01:24:03.422 --> 01:24:04.203
You're going to come into a

01:24:04.262 --> 01:24:05.283
favorable position.

01:24:05.623 --> 01:24:06.644
You have familiarity.

01:24:06.663 --> 01:24:08.444
Everything's going to be about you.

01:24:08.805 --> 01:24:10.125
You can step on the field early.

01:24:10.425 --> 01:24:12.286
There's a lot to love from that pitch.

01:24:12.886 --> 01:24:13.365
And, you know,

01:24:13.386 --> 01:24:14.106
that's something that

01:24:14.287 --> 01:24:16.426
obviously resonated with Dax Holyfield.

01:24:18.328 --> 01:24:19.369
Sometimes you come back to

01:24:19.390 --> 01:24:20.851
the school that's been there all along,

01:24:20.971 --> 01:24:21.653
and I know they're going to

01:24:21.673 --> 01:24:22.534
stay consistent.

01:24:23.395 --> 01:24:24.658
So I do think there's a chance,

01:24:24.717 --> 01:24:26.301
but it's going to be a long

01:24:26.341 --> 01:24:28.104
and wild ride to get there.

01:24:29.485 --> 01:24:30.106
So we'll see.

01:24:30.186 --> 01:24:31.569
Like, it would not surprise me if.

01:24:32.868 --> 01:24:34.688
goes to lsu this summer and

01:24:34.828 --> 01:24:35.788
decides you know what I've

01:24:35.809 --> 01:24:37.588
seen everything like I've

01:24:37.609 --> 01:24:38.448
seen those locker rooms

01:24:38.469 --> 01:24:40.569
they're pretty nice so it

01:24:40.609 --> 01:24:42.390
could be anything but I

01:24:42.430 --> 01:24:43.511
really do think virginia

01:24:43.551 --> 01:24:44.990
tech has a very legitimate

01:24:45.011 --> 01:24:46.591
chance I know even with his

01:24:46.631 --> 01:24:48.511
brother like you know there

01:24:48.551 --> 01:24:50.032
was opportunities for him

01:24:50.091 --> 01:24:51.552
to play elsewhere and he

01:24:51.573 --> 01:24:52.573
chose to stay at virginia

01:24:52.613 --> 01:24:54.953
tech so um I think there's

01:24:54.993 --> 01:24:55.953
a lot of love from that

01:24:56.014 --> 01:24:57.394
family for what virginia

01:24:57.413 --> 01:24:58.474
tech can provide and

01:24:58.514 --> 01:25:00.475
especially an nfl pipeline so

01:25:01.555 --> 01:25:03.536
There's a lot to love there for Fahim,

01:25:03.595 --> 01:25:05.456
but it's going to take some

01:25:05.496 --> 01:25:07.296
time to really iron that out.

01:25:07.936 --> 01:25:08.617
So what you're saying is we

01:25:08.657 --> 01:25:09.556
need to fast track those

01:25:09.596 --> 01:25:10.636
locker room renovations.

01:25:10.896 --> 01:25:13.677
Oh, yeah.

01:25:13.738 --> 01:25:16.279
And get Mansoor to the NFL.

01:25:16.658 --> 01:25:18.019
Those two days.

01:25:18.779 --> 01:25:19.279
Hey, Tally,

01:25:19.298 --> 01:25:20.399
we need to go up there in that

01:25:20.479 --> 01:25:21.359
flight when he leaves to LSU.

01:25:22.836 --> 01:25:23.556
it ain't going to happen.

01:25:24.096 --> 01:25:24.637
Yeah.

01:25:24.837 --> 01:25:25.219
Let's go.

01:25:25.238 --> 01:25:25.538
Come on.

01:25:25.639 --> 01:25:26.840
I'm going to tell you up in

01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:27.400
Northern Virginia.

01:25:27.440 --> 01:25:27.600
We'll,

01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:29.342
we'll run some of the oceans 11 shit.

01:25:29.382 --> 01:25:30.524
Like he ain't making it to LSU.

01:25:30.623 --> 01:25:32.166
Unless you want to drive.

01:25:32.265 --> 01:25:33.167
I'll be the pilot.

01:25:33.447 --> 01:25:34.228
There we go, baby.

01:25:34.347 --> 01:25:34.828
Let's do it.

01:25:35.349 --> 01:25:36.069
What you got Brian?

01:25:36.510 --> 01:25:36.770
Yeah.

01:25:36.789 --> 01:25:37.650
I mean, let's,

01:25:37.811 --> 01:25:38.731
since we're talking about for him,

01:25:38.752 --> 01:25:39.493
let's go ahead and talk

01:25:39.512 --> 01:25:40.194
about some of these

01:25:40.895 --> 01:25:42.515
footprint States that aren't Virginia.

01:25:42.536 --> 01:25:42.676
Yeah.

01:25:43.166 --> 01:25:43.365
You know,

01:25:43.386 --> 01:25:44.787
we got some officials on the

01:25:44.827 --> 01:25:49.329
board out of Maryland from Fahim, Malik,

01:25:49.369 --> 01:25:50.411
a couple other guys.

01:25:50.430 --> 01:25:53.972
A lot of guys out of North Carolina,

01:25:54.453 --> 01:25:58.456
like Shamarius, Peterkin, Tayshaun Alston,

01:25:59.117 --> 01:26:00.698
Tennessee with Sam Haley,

01:26:00.738 --> 01:26:01.578
Carson Lawrence.

01:26:02.492 --> 01:26:03.573
Last couple cycles,

01:26:03.653 --> 01:26:04.573
prize kind of hit those

01:26:04.594 --> 01:26:05.916
surrounding states pretty hard.

01:26:06.737 --> 01:26:08.377
And we've seen a lot of the

01:26:08.438 --> 01:26:09.418
states kind of thrown out

01:26:09.439 --> 01:26:10.541
there with a lot of the offers.

01:26:10.621 --> 01:26:11.702
Maryland and North Carolina

01:26:11.742 --> 01:26:12.762
really heavy this cycle

01:26:12.823 --> 01:26:14.064
with number of offers.

01:26:14.664 --> 01:26:15.605
What state do you think will

01:26:15.626 --> 01:26:17.287
bear the most fruit come signing day?

01:26:18.171 --> 01:26:18.390
Yeah,

01:26:18.411 --> 01:26:19.671
I definitely think it's going to be

01:26:19.832 --> 01:26:22.354
either North Carolina or Maryland.

01:26:23.036 --> 01:26:25.278
A ton of guys there for now

01:26:25.358 --> 01:26:26.759
that have set up official visits.

01:26:26.798 --> 01:26:27.579
I think there'll be even

01:26:27.619 --> 01:26:29.341
more as they continue to

01:26:29.360 --> 01:26:30.483
evaluate talent there.

01:26:31.143 --> 01:26:32.984
This first crop and a lot of

01:26:33.005 --> 01:26:34.025
the guys that we're seeing

01:26:34.206 --> 01:26:34.987
taking these official

01:26:35.027 --> 01:26:36.108
visits are really the guys

01:26:36.127 --> 01:26:37.048
that are narrowing in

01:26:37.609 --> 01:26:38.569
on their recruitment,

01:26:38.850 --> 01:26:40.310
guys that are cutting down their list,

01:26:40.671 --> 01:26:41.792
trying to get to campuses

01:26:41.851 --> 01:26:42.893
this spring and this summer,

01:26:43.252 --> 01:26:43.774
and trying to make

01:26:43.814 --> 01:26:45.375
decisions before their senior year.

01:26:45.675 --> 01:26:46.315
There's going to be even

01:26:46.376 --> 01:26:47.837
more guys that go

01:26:47.877 --> 01:26:49.217
throughout the fall that

01:26:49.238 --> 01:26:50.639
Virginia Tech's going to

01:26:50.658 --> 01:26:52.761
want to get later on in the cycle.

01:26:53.382 --> 01:26:53.523
Um,

01:26:53.743 --> 01:26:55.505
ton of talent in North Carolina right

01:26:55.545 --> 01:26:55.784
now.

01:26:56.484 --> 01:26:57.506
Um, you know,

01:26:57.645 --> 01:26:58.787
you mentioned some of the names,

01:26:59.207 --> 01:27:01.047
Peter can is, is a huge one.

01:27:01.588 --> 01:27:03.989
Uh, he's teammates with Jadon Blair.

01:27:04.010 --> 01:27:04.890
Uh, they're,

01:27:05.070 --> 01:27:06.492
they both set up official visits,

01:27:06.572 --> 01:27:07.773
both four star guys.

01:27:08.412 --> 01:27:09.274
Um, you know,

01:27:09.634 --> 01:27:11.635
both really involved with UNC.

01:27:12.155 --> 01:27:12.235
Uh,

01:27:12.296 --> 01:27:14.677
but I think Virginia tech has a good

01:27:14.717 --> 01:27:15.257
shot there.

01:27:15.278 --> 01:27:17.498
I think Blair also has a lot

01:27:17.519 --> 01:27:18.739
of interest from Notre Dame.

01:27:18.760 --> 01:27:18.800
Um,

01:27:20.873 --> 01:27:23.398
And then you look at Malik Washington,

01:27:23.819 --> 01:27:24.819
very intriguing guy.

01:27:24.840 --> 01:27:26.021
I think he was just elevated

01:27:26.061 --> 01:27:27.423
to a four-star prospect.

01:27:28.365 --> 01:27:28.826
Our guys at 24-7 just –

01:27:30.855 --> 01:27:33.016
Really love him, his blend of athleticism.

01:27:33.077 --> 01:27:35.637
He's really an amazing quarterback.

01:27:36.177 --> 01:27:37.118
It's kind of interesting

01:27:37.137 --> 01:27:38.217
with the situation right now.

01:27:38.259 --> 01:27:39.698
I know that Kelden Ryan is

01:27:40.219 --> 01:27:41.059
verbally committed,

01:27:41.779 --> 01:27:43.020
but Virginia Tech is open

01:27:43.039 --> 01:27:44.280
to taking two quarterbacks.

01:27:44.400 --> 01:27:45.161
And, you know,

01:27:45.201 --> 01:27:46.201
they would love to get a guy

01:27:46.240 --> 01:27:47.322
like Malik Washington.

01:27:47.362 --> 01:27:50.403
He's 6'4", 210, you know,

01:27:50.622 --> 01:27:52.542
really fast runner, really good arm,

01:27:52.563 --> 01:27:55.104
a bit unorthodox,

01:27:55.984 --> 01:27:59.045
but just an absolute gamer and a guy that,

01:27:59.386 --> 01:27:59.645
you know,

01:28:00.746 --> 01:28:01.807
they want to fit that mold

01:28:01.887 --> 01:28:03.470
of Kyron drones too.

01:28:03.930 --> 01:28:06.413
So I, I think he's a guy that, you know,

01:28:06.854 --> 01:28:08.077
they're really going to push for, um,

01:28:09.198 --> 01:28:10.159
try to get that second

01:28:10.239 --> 01:28:11.761
quarterback commit in the class.

01:28:12.523 --> 01:28:14.024
Um, you know, for him is there,

01:28:14.064 --> 01:28:15.386
I think he can start a movement, um,

01:28:16.127 --> 01:28:17.408
um with some of these other

01:28:17.448 --> 01:28:19.309
guys skyler harvey's a very

01:28:19.349 --> 01:28:21.109
interesting guy I think at

01:28:21.149 --> 01:28:23.109
the time of writing up a

01:28:23.189 --> 01:28:25.350
post visit recap uh he only

01:28:25.390 --> 01:28:26.711
had one power five offer

01:28:26.751 --> 01:28:27.631
and that was from virginia

01:28:27.671 --> 01:28:29.351
tech and at the end of the

01:28:29.391 --> 01:28:30.532
interview I did with him he

01:28:30.572 --> 01:28:31.972
just sent me his entire

01:28:32.052 --> 01:28:34.113
offer list like legit was

01:28:34.153 --> 01:28:35.134
just you know sending

01:28:35.173 --> 01:28:37.734
photos um and I was like

01:28:37.795 --> 01:28:39.175
where did all this come from like

01:28:39.734 --> 01:28:40.755
We heard you had one power

01:28:40.774 --> 01:28:41.655
five offer and all of a

01:28:41.676 --> 01:28:42.456
sudden you have 10.

01:28:42.456 --> 01:28:44.015
So he's a guy that really

01:28:44.076 --> 01:28:46.716
got a lot of interest and, you know,

01:28:46.896 --> 01:28:49.818
absolute huge human being at six, seven,

01:28:49.858 --> 01:28:51.137
I think over 300 pounds.

01:28:51.198 --> 01:28:53.519
So a lot of guys to like in

01:28:53.559 --> 01:28:54.979
Maryland and North Carolina.

01:28:54.998 --> 01:28:55.920
I think one of those two

01:28:55.960 --> 01:28:57.920
states will definitely take

01:28:57.960 --> 01:28:59.900
the cake for most outside of Virginia.

01:29:02.161 --> 01:29:03.402
That's a lot of good stuff right there.

01:29:03.442 --> 01:29:04.421
We like to hear all of that.

01:29:06.208 --> 01:29:07.010
I guess we'll switch a

01:29:07.050 --> 01:29:10.292
little bit in the last cycle.

01:29:12.095 --> 01:29:14.398
JC beat the allegations, man.

01:29:15.639 --> 01:29:16.939
JC beat the allegations.

01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:18.742
Everybody said JC couldn't recruit.

01:29:19.563 --> 01:29:20.703
JC proved him wrong.

01:29:21.707 --> 01:29:22.926
He's out here doing his thing,

01:29:22.987 --> 01:29:25.167
just living his life like it's golden.

01:29:25.847 --> 01:29:26.127
You know,

01:29:26.168 --> 01:29:27.488
he's bringing in some good talent.

01:29:28.109 --> 01:29:29.069
JC's a cool guy.

01:29:29.109 --> 01:29:31.789
Fontel is who he is.

01:29:32.270 --> 01:29:32.511
You know,

01:29:32.551 --> 01:29:33.890
they both led the charge as far

01:29:33.930 --> 01:29:35.572
as recruiting goes.

01:29:36.612 --> 01:29:38.792
So besides those guys, I'll ask you,

01:29:39.132 --> 01:29:40.372
do you see another position

01:29:40.412 --> 01:29:41.514
coach that could probably

01:29:41.533 --> 01:29:44.295
get in that top 20 ACC

01:29:44.335 --> 01:29:45.114
recruiter this year?

01:29:45.984 --> 01:29:46.545
Absolutely.

01:29:46.604 --> 01:29:47.506
I think if there's going to

01:29:47.525 --> 01:29:48.386
be a guy on the staff,

01:29:48.445 --> 01:29:49.266
it's going to be cheetah.

01:29:49.787 --> 01:29:51.127
Like there's so much

01:29:51.207 --> 01:29:52.809
defensive back talent this year.

01:29:52.828 --> 01:29:55.029
I think that's the position group.

01:29:55.050 --> 01:29:55.810
They're really going to try

01:29:55.829 --> 01:29:56.490
to hammer home.

01:29:56.871 --> 01:29:58.131
We talked about a lot of

01:29:58.212 --> 01:30:00.432
four star five star safeties,

01:30:00.972 --> 01:30:02.594
a bunch of high three stars.

01:30:03.014 --> 01:30:04.614
We talked about deuce for him.

01:30:04.935 --> 01:30:06.256
You already got knowledge in the boat.

01:30:07.095 --> 01:30:08.618
There's a lot of talent there.

01:30:08.837 --> 01:30:10.639
And I think he's a guy that, you know,

01:30:10.698 --> 01:30:11.939
he only took one DB last

01:30:11.979 --> 01:30:13.581
cycle in terms of cornerbacks.

01:30:14.061 --> 01:30:15.563
I know that they brought in some safeties,

01:30:15.682 --> 01:30:17.184
but I think they're really

01:30:17.203 --> 01:30:18.465
going to hammer that home this year.

01:30:19.085 --> 01:30:21.567
And there's a ton of talent there.

01:30:21.587 --> 01:30:24.149
I think if all goes according to plan,

01:30:24.208 --> 01:30:26.390
like he'll be top 15 for sure.

01:30:26.411 --> 01:30:27.631
Nice.

01:30:28.453 --> 01:30:28.872
We need it.

01:30:29.533 --> 01:30:29.974
We need it.

01:30:29.993 --> 01:30:30.793
And I think you see

01:30:30.814 --> 01:30:32.034
Cheetah's personality and

01:30:32.074 --> 01:30:33.195
you think defensive backs

01:30:33.235 --> 01:30:34.997
and that personality is, I feel like,

01:30:35.768 --> 01:30:36.608
A lot of them will probably

01:30:36.628 --> 01:30:38.328
click right away with them.

01:30:38.609 --> 01:30:40.350
I want to ask you this because, you know,

01:30:40.371 --> 01:30:42.212
you talk to high school recruits,

01:30:42.231 --> 01:30:43.891
you talk to coaches, you talk to people.

01:30:44.653 --> 01:30:46.673
But what comes up about this

01:30:46.753 --> 01:30:48.095
staff when you're talking

01:30:48.135 --> 01:30:49.154
to a player we're

01:30:49.175 --> 01:30:50.015
recruiting or maybe one

01:30:50.036 --> 01:30:50.855
we've already landed?

01:30:51.296 --> 01:30:52.577
What's like the words that come out?

01:30:52.596 --> 01:30:54.018
What's that constant like

01:30:54.137 --> 01:30:55.179
every player I talk to?

01:30:56.019 --> 01:30:56.920
This is what I hear,

01:30:57.501 --> 01:30:58.202
because I think that's

01:30:58.242 --> 01:30:59.863
something we all are interested in,

01:30:59.922 --> 01:31:01.784
because, you know, we've interviewed.

01:31:01.985 --> 01:31:03.567
We've had the pleasure in the last year.

01:31:03.627 --> 01:31:04.769
We've interviewed Coach Pryor.

01:31:05.088 --> 01:31:06.369
We've interviewed Coach Mines.

01:31:07.011 --> 01:31:07.712
We've interviewed Coach

01:31:07.771 --> 01:31:09.894
Price and we interviewed Coach Mullen.

01:31:11.256 --> 01:31:12.756
When you talk to someone,

01:31:13.257 --> 01:31:14.418
what is it about this staff

01:31:14.439 --> 01:31:15.119
that they say it's like

01:31:15.260 --> 01:31:16.320
every time I hear this?

01:31:17.256 --> 01:31:18.657
yeah I think the buzzword

01:31:18.697 --> 01:31:19.877
that every recruit that

01:31:20.177 --> 01:31:21.399
I've ever interviewed has

01:31:21.439 --> 01:31:23.820
said is family I know it's

01:31:23.841 --> 01:31:25.521
a little cliche but when

01:31:25.542 --> 01:31:26.762
you think of virginia tech

01:31:26.783 --> 01:31:28.283
like the coaches like

01:31:28.444 --> 01:31:30.086
genuinely enjoy recruiting

01:31:30.466 --> 01:31:31.787
they genuinely enjoy

01:31:31.966 --> 01:31:32.527
creating these

01:31:32.587 --> 01:31:33.807
relationships not just with

01:31:33.828 --> 01:31:34.609
the recruits with the

01:31:34.668 --> 01:31:35.909
families with the coaches

01:31:36.289 --> 01:31:37.650
trainers people in the

01:31:37.690 --> 01:31:38.931
community I know they talk

01:31:38.971 --> 01:31:40.793
about it all the time they do back it up

01:31:41.533 --> 01:31:42.755
And when you look at some of

01:31:42.795 --> 01:31:43.574
these other schools,

01:31:43.614 --> 01:31:46.096
you got your Ohio State's, your Alabama's,

01:31:46.176 --> 01:31:48.217
Penn State's like no shade on them.

01:31:48.438 --> 01:31:51.559
Like there are 100 interns that are,

01:31:51.979 --> 01:31:54.180
you know, texting recruits.

01:31:54.461 --> 01:31:55.761
And sometimes you're not

01:31:56.061 --> 01:31:57.442
talking to your position coach.

01:31:57.521 --> 01:31:57.743
Right.

01:31:58.283 --> 01:32:00.863
And I think like with Virginia Tech,

01:32:00.904 --> 01:32:03.746
you're getting, you know, a full court.

01:32:04.985 --> 01:32:07.167
treatment from everyone from

01:32:07.207 --> 01:32:08.668
the ground floor all the way up.

01:32:08.988 --> 01:32:11.070
Like Brent Prye is not just saying,

01:32:11.190 --> 01:32:12.532
you know, go out there and recruit.

01:32:12.572 --> 01:32:14.213
Like he's putting an effort too.

01:32:14.654 --> 01:32:15.414
And I think that's,

01:32:15.854 --> 01:32:18.037
that effort goes a long way

01:32:18.077 --> 01:32:18.877
with these recruits.

01:32:19.677 --> 01:32:21.078
And I think, you know,

01:32:21.158 --> 01:32:22.359
that family atmosphere,

01:32:22.439 --> 01:32:23.761
they know it's a fun time.

01:32:23.801 --> 01:32:25.082
They know they're going to be developed.

01:32:25.643 --> 01:32:27.003
They know like success will

01:32:27.043 --> 01:32:28.305
come on the field or at

01:32:28.345 --> 01:32:29.086
least they hope so.

01:32:29.105 --> 01:32:29.145
Um,

01:32:30.447 --> 01:32:31.067
But overall,

01:32:31.127 --> 01:32:32.969
I think it's just that atmosphere that,

01:32:33.009 --> 01:32:33.168
like,

01:32:33.208 --> 01:32:35.350
the coaches genuinely care and they

01:32:35.369 --> 01:32:36.131
want to recruit.

01:32:36.171 --> 01:32:37.190
It's not that they have to.

01:32:38.572 --> 01:32:40.092
Yeah, I can see that because, you know,

01:32:40.132 --> 01:32:41.234
when you go back and look at, like,

01:32:42.654 --> 01:32:45.115
the draft day thing they had as far as,

01:32:46.136 --> 01:32:47.717
what was it, like, signing day?

01:32:49.158 --> 01:32:50.680
When Pryor's talking, man,

01:32:50.960 --> 01:32:52.701
you can tell he's dug into the families.

01:32:53.261 --> 01:32:55.462
He knows all kinds of stories about moms,

01:32:55.823 --> 01:32:57.104
brothers, fathers.

01:32:57.184 --> 01:32:59.645
So, I mean, that's not –

01:33:01.180 --> 01:33:02.101
Everybody doesn't do that.

01:33:02.122 --> 01:33:02.682
You know what I'm saying?

01:33:02.703 --> 01:33:03.844
I ain't gonna say that's the blueprint.

01:33:03.863 --> 01:33:05.225
Cause you got some coaches

01:33:05.265 --> 01:33:06.646
that bigger programs that just,

01:33:06.707 --> 01:33:07.667
that's not what they do.

01:33:08.047 --> 01:33:09.710
You know, they may be an X's and O's guy.

01:33:09.729 --> 01:33:12.313
They may have a person that handles that,

01:33:12.712 --> 01:33:14.255
you know, but prize taking that.

01:33:14.314 --> 01:33:14.895
And like you said,

01:33:14.935 --> 01:33:16.516
I can see where they've

01:33:16.556 --> 01:33:19.439
taken the family mantra and they, they,

01:33:19.621 --> 01:33:20.400
they really live it.

01:33:20.461 --> 01:33:21.682
So that's, that's pretty cool.

01:33:23.506 --> 01:33:24.627
Well, the other thing, Tally,

01:33:24.648 --> 01:33:25.988
you mentioned about that is

01:33:26.609 --> 01:33:27.810
the bigger programs,

01:33:28.369 --> 01:33:29.891
I don't think that resonates with them.

01:33:30.231 --> 01:33:33.234
I think because we're Ohio State.

01:33:33.514 --> 01:33:34.555
You want to go to the league?

01:33:34.795 --> 01:33:35.775
You want a million dollars?

01:33:36.216 --> 01:33:36.836
Right.

01:33:37.436 --> 01:33:38.237
That's all they've got.

01:33:38.618 --> 01:33:38.837
Now,

01:33:38.997 --> 01:33:41.118
what you see a lot of times is people

01:33:41.179 --> 01:33:42.220
go there and they come out

01:33:42.260 --> 01:33:43.820
with the stories of, man,

01:33:43.841 --> 01:33:45.021
they were assholes.

01:33:45.341 --> 01:33:45.523
Yeah.

01:33:46.783 --> 01:33:47.743
And that's okay.

01:33:48.324 --> 01:33:48.885
That's okay.

01:33:49.104 --> 01:33:49.645
It's football.

01:33:50.185 --> 01:33:51.106
People have to be jerks.

01:33:51.127 --> 01:33:51.907
You got to be assholes

01:33:51.947 --> 01:33:52.528
because you're trying to

01:33:52.547 --> 01:33:53.448
get the best out of them.

01:33:53.969 --> 01:33:55.149
But the whole thing you hear

01:33:55.210 --> 01:33:58.773
so many times is they were two-faced.

01:33:59.353 --> 01:34:01.395
They got me in that door and

01:34:01.435 --> 01:34:03.015
immediately they were different people.

01:34:03.555 --> 01:34:05.578
And it feels like, to me...

01:34:06.701 --> 01:34:08.962
And again, having Kevin drones, shout out,

01:34:09.002 --> 01:34:09.242
Kevin.

01:34:09.261 --> 01:34:10.162
I know Kevin was listening,

01:34:10.181 --> 01:34:11.962
is listening tonight and

01:34:12.002 --> 01:34:13.623
having other people talking with his,

01:34:13.644 --> 01:34:14.944
you know, these guys aren't like,

01:34:15.425 --> 01:34:16.585
they're going to be straight up with you.

01:34:16.604 --> 01:34:17.064
Right.

01:34:17.085 --> 01:34:17.826
They're going to be straight

01:34:17.865 --> 01:34:19.185
up with you from day one.

01:34:19.846 --> 01:34:21.167
And I'm sure there's some of

01:34:21.186 --> 01:34:22.228
the tougher conversations

01:34:22.247 --> 01:34:23.167
that they have with these

01:34:23.247 --> 01:34:24.969
kids that they continue having,

01:34:25.029 --> 01:34:27.329
where it's, you know, you're Alabama,

01:34:27.989 --> 01:34:28.550
you're Georgia.

01:34:28.590 --> 01:34:28.869
You don't,

01:34:28.909 --> 01:34:29.631
you don't have to have those

01:34:29.671 --> 01:34:32.152
hard conversations because you know what?

01:34:33.032 --> 01:34:33.832
You don't want us.

01:34:34.353 --> 01:34:34.733
You're okay.

01:34:34.773 --> 01:34:35.092
Okay.

01:34:36.127 --> 01:34:36.846
That kid right there,

01:34:36.867 --> 01:34:37.887
he wants us just as bad.

01:34:37.908 --> 01:34:38.868
Right.

01:34:39.929 --> 01:34:41.250
I think, too, again,

01:34:41.529 --> 01:34:42.470
no shade to some of the

01:34:42.530 --> 01:34:43.572
other schools I mentioned.

01:34:44.091 --> 01:34:45.493
They do have proven recruiters.

01:34:45.533 --> 01:34:47.394
They do have good connections with kids.

01:34:47.833 --> 01:34:48.975
I think the difference is

01:34:49.414 --> 01:34:51.076
where Virginia Tech has been,

01:34:51.516 --> 01:34:52.317
there's more of that

01:34:52.457 --> 01:34:54.137
urgency in the recruiting process.

01:34:54.478 --> 01:34:55.618
You kind of mentioned it.

01:34:56.198 --> 01:34:57.680
These other schools, they have brands.

01:34:57.859 --> 01:34:58.761
They've been at the top.

01:34:58.780 --> 01:34:59.320
Right.

01:35:00.421 --> 01:35:01.243
Year in, year out,

01:35:01.283 --> 01:35:02.363
they're bringing in guys no

01:35:02.404 --> 01:35:03.786
matter what they say, what they do.

01:35:04.286 --> 01:35:05.747
But for Virginia Tech,

01:35:05.768 --> 01:35:06.948
they want to do it the right way.

01:35:07.189 --> 01:35:08.770
They want to build those relationships.

01:35:09.150 --> 01:35:10.372
And I think it's important, too,

01:35:10.393 --> 01:35:11.573
because they're realizing

01:35:12.054 --> 01:35:13.555
if you're having these fake

01:35:13.595 --> 01:35:14.697
relationships and you're

01:35:14.716 --> 01:35:16.238
bringing guys in and saying

01:35:16.259 --> 01:35:16.918
the right things...

01:35:17.539 --> 01:35:18.279
They're just going to enter

01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:19.301
the transfer portal and

01:35:19.341 --> 01:35:20.560
leave like they truly want

01:35:20.600 --> 01:35:21.220
to build it up.

01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:23.042
So I think they're they're

01:35:23.082 --> 01:35:24.942
investing that time now so

01:35:24.962 --> 01:35:26.323
that these guys are staying.

01:35:26.622 --> 01:35:27.783
They're helping the rebuild,

01:35:27.842 --> 01:35:29.323
helping get Virginia Tech

01:35:29.363 --> 01:35:30.283
back to where it needs to be.

01:35:30.304 --> 01:35:30.384
Yeah,

01:35:31.224 --> 01:35:32.385
when you talk about the transfer

01:35:32.425 --> 01:35:34.305
portal to like building

01:35:34.345 --> 01:35:35.145
those relationships,

01:35:35.246 --> 01:35:36.326
even if it doesn't come to

01:35:36.365 --> 01:35:38.087
fruition the first go

01:35:38.106 --> 01:35:39.386
around with the transfer portal.

01:35:40.622 --> 01:35:42.144
so many opportunities to get

01:35:42.184 --> 01:35:43.264
a second shot at a kid.

01:35:43.884 --> 01:35:45.085
And if you were building

01:35:45.104 --> 01:35:46.324
that relationship to begin with,

01:35:46.345 --> 01:35:47.246
when you look at a kid like

01:35:47.265 --> 01:35:47.886
Kelvin Gilliam,

01:35:48.725 --> 01:35:50.367
that's an opportunity that

01:35:51.087 --> 01:35:52.587
you stick with it, you keep going,

01:35:52.627 --> 01:35:53.887
and then it comes back

01:35:53.927 --> 01:35:54.748
around for you and you're

01:35:54.769 --> 01:35:56.408
able to maximize that.

01:35:56.908 --> 01:35:58.670
So that's really important.

01:35:58.689 --> 01:35:59.610
And I think the staff has

01:35:59.631 --> 01:36:00.610
done a good job about that.

01:36:00.610 --> 01:36:03.354
100% APR to, you know, I was going to say,

01:36:03.413 --> 01:36:05.356
I was going to say it comes down to,

01:36:05.837 --> 01:36:06.559
you know what I'm saying?

01:36:06.599 --> 01:36:09.882
You, you, it starts with a deal,

01:36:09.903 --> 01:36:10.583
you know what I'm saying?

01:36:10.604 --> 01:36:11.305
Like you're selling your

01:36:11.324 --> 01:36:12.286
business plan and you go

01:36:12.305 --> 01:36:13.988
and try to get a loan from the bank.

01:36:14.009 --> 01:36:15.189
You got to make it look good.

01:36:15.210 --> 01:36:16.351
So the bank gives you the loan.

01:36:16.731 --> 01:36:17.193
Well, now I.

01:36:18.194 --> 01:36:19.555
put that in football perspective,

01:36:19.854 --> 01:36:20.875
probably came out and said, hey,

01:36:20.895 --> 01:36:21.836
this is what we want to do.

01:36:22.176 --> 01:36:23.277
This is how we're going to do it.

01:36:23.577 --> 01:36:25.238
Then you go get a kid like APR,

01:36:25.358 --> 01:36:26.778
and he comes in and he produces.

01:36:27.118 --> 01:36:27.819
You know what I'm saying?

01:36:27.838 --> 01:36:30.380
You say, hey, I need you to come.

01:36:30.460 --> 01:36:31.301
You can come in.

01:36:31.440 --> 01:36:33.601
We've seen what you did at Florida.

01:36:34.724 --> 01:36:36.425
He comes in Virginia Tech and he's a star.

01:36:37.065 --> 01:36:37.645
You know what I'm saying?

01:36:37.685 --> 01:36:40.469
And not only is he a star on the field,

01:36:40.849 --> 01:36:43.871
he's a legend in Virginia Tech fan eyes.

01:36:44.212 --> 01:36:44.992
You know what I'm saying?

01:36:45.051 --> 01:36:47.595
So you can use that story

01:36:47.654 --> 01:36:49.916
now to sell that to the

01:36:49.975 --> 01:36:52.238
next recruit in the transfer.

01:36:52.257 --> 01:36:54.800
Look at Kyra Jones.

01:36:54.840 --> 01:36:57.802
He was a Texas kid that was at Baylor.

01:36:57.863 --> 01:36:59.423
We've heard his story and then boom,

01:36:59.463 --> 01:37:01.086
we pull him to Virginia

01:37:01.126 --> 01:37:02.447
Tech to Blacksburg and

01:37:03.046 --> 01:37:04.367
the kid is already being

01:37:04.426 --> 01:37:05.408
mentioned with you know I

01:37:05.427 --> 01:37:06.188
don't want to put too much

01:37:06.988 --> 01:37:08.188
uh expectations on his back

01:37:08.228 --> 01:37:08.908
but he's already been

01:37:08.948 --> 01:37:09.948
mentioned with the likes of

01:37:10.109 --> 01:37:11.988
tyrod and you know uh

01:37:12.088 --> 01:37:13.809
gerard evans and you know

01:37:13.849 --> 01:37:17.909
hidden hook or so I can't

01:37:17.949 --> 01:37:18.770
remember the twitter

01:37:18.789 --> 01:37:19.570
account but there was one

01:37:19.631 --> 01:37:21.331
out there that was uh you

01:37:21.350 --> 01:37:23.171
know dropping the stats for

01:37:23.230 --> 01:37:25.231
jt daniels and kyron drones

01:37:25.851 --> 01:37:27.072
and they were very eerily

01:37:27.171 --> 01:37:28.752
similar in a lot of those

01:37:28.792 --> 01:37:30.052
key factors it's true

01:37:30.739 --> 01:37:32.162
And so it's kind of crazy

01:37:32.202 --> 01:37:34.125
seeing that vision play out

01:37:34.404 --> 01:37:35.426
that the coaches presented

01:37:35.445 --> 01:37:37.108
because the coaches sold a

01:37:38.170 --> 01:37:39.891
vision when there wasn't

01:37:39.931 --> 01:37:41.094
production to back it up.

01:37:42.085 --> 01:37:42.985
and we finally got some

01:37:43.025 --> 01:37:44.146
production to back it up.

01:37:44.766 --> 01:37:46.148
Now it's about taking that next step.

01:37:46.748 --> 01:37:48.210
But it's also – we've said

01:37:48.270 --> 01:37:48.970
it how many times,

01:37:49.029 --> 01:37:49.770
and I think we've said it

01:37:49.831 --> 01:37:51.591
with – I know you've been on here, Matei.

01:37:52.172 --> 01:37:54.054
The APR, he came in, he produced.

01:37:54.335 --> 01:37:55.375
They went and got all those

01:37:55.435 --> 01:37:56.315
receivers last year.

01:37:56.336 --> 01:37:57.476
You saw Ollie Jennings that

01:37:57.497 --> 01:37:58.117
first game blow up,

01:37:58.158 --> 01:37:58.957
and then he gets hurt.

01:37:59.779 --> 01:38:02.381
Jay Lane, Quan Felton, great years.

01:38:03.180 --> 01:38:04.601
Every guy that stepped foot

01:38:04.643 --> 01:38:06.323
on the field out of the portal produced.

01:38:06.703 --> 01:38:09.488
But that whole piece is now.

01:38:09.788 --> 01:38:10.489
All right.

01:38:10.829 --> 01:38:14.015
A lot of these guys are

01:38:14.055 --> 01:38:14.916
going to be leaving.

01:38:15.596 --> 01:38:16.719
That portal is going to

01:38:16.738 --> 01:38:17.640
become easier because

01:38:17.659 --> 01:38:18.461
they're going to walk in.

01:38:18.600 --> 01:38:19.462
You see our system.

01:38:19.962 --> 01:38:20.823
You see production.

01:38:21.985 --> 01:38:23.167
Why aren't you going to come play here?

01:38:24.130 --> 01:38:26.492
And it's going to get to a point,

01:38:26.652 --> 01:38:27.493
in my opinion,

01:38:28.134 --> 01:38:29.295
that there's going to be big,

01:38:29.375 --> 01:38:31.076
big names at big,

01:38:31.136 --> 01:38:32.698
big schools that they're

01:38:32.738 --> 01:38:33.298
going to go flunk,

01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:33.918
they're going to mess with,

01:38:33.939 --> 01:38:34.640
and they're going to say,

01:38:35.260 --> 01:38:35.860
you're going to ride the

01:38:35.900 --> 01:38:37.101
bench another year over there.

01:38:37.643 --> 01:38:38.743
You come here, look.

01:38:39.524 --> 01:38:40.185
Look what we've done.

01:38:40.985 --> 01:38:42.226
Look what we've done.

01:38:42.247 --> 01:38:43.908
All right, Sheldon,

01:38:43.927 --> 01:38:45.009
I know you've got one more

01:38:45.069 --> 01:38:46.010
you want to talk with here

01:38:46.069 --> 01:38:48.072
as we wrap it up with Matej Sis tonight.

01:38:48.231 --> 01:38:48.792
Go ahead, sir.

01:38:49.792 --> 01:38:52.234
Yeah, so this year, 2024,

01:38:52.234 --> 01:38:54.795
good recruiting class for

01:38:54.854 --> 01:38:56.216
Prye from a numbers perspective.

01:38:56.636 --> 01:38:59.898
Class average was over 88, which I think,

01:39:00.097 --> 01:39:01.378
looking at the numbers right now,

01:39:01.838 --> 01:39:03.539
was the best in sort of the modern era.

01:39:03.560 --> 01:39:05.319
And I know it's easy in

01:39:05.359 --> 01:39:06.381
today's day and age, I feel like,

01:39:06.440 --> 01:39:07.902
to maybe downplay high

01:39:07.921 --> 01:39:09.341
school recruiting in the

01:39:09.402 --> 01:39:10.443
age of the transfer portal.

01:39:10.863 --> 01:39:12.043
But Prye has talked all the

01:39:12.064 --> 01:39:13.024
time about how he wants to

01:39:13.064 --> 01:39:13.984
build this program off the

01:39:14.024 --> 01:39:14.784
backs of high school

01:39:14.824 --> 01:39:16.126
recruiting and sort of use

01:39:16.145 --> 01:39:17.805
the portal to supplement here and there.

01:39:19.720 --> 01:39:21.881
What is the buzz amongst

01:39:21.900 --> 01:39:23.541
your colleagues at 24-7 and

01:39:23.560 --> 01:39:24.402
just the other inside

01:39:24.421 --> 01:39:26.841
voices about recruiting for

01:39:26.881 --> 01:39:27.722
this class and just how

01:39:27.743 --> 01:39:28.783
much anticipation there is?

01:39:29.563 --> 01:39:30.262
Yeah, I mean,

01:39:30.483 --> 01:39:31.923
I certainly thought that last

01:39:31.963 --> 01:39:33.243
year was kind of the

01:39:33.283 --> 01:39:36.185
anomaly where they're taking 16 guys,

01:39:36.225 --> 01:39:39.025
taking a handful of transfer portal ads.

01:39:40.025 --> 01:39:42.167
Spaces were limited, not a ton of seniors,

01:39:42.226 --> 01:39:43.327
not a ton of attrition.

01:39:43.346 --> 01:39:44.908
I think natural attrition

01:39:44.988 --> 01:39:46.988
was right in line with kind

01:39:47.007 --> 01:39:47.868
of what we expected.

01:39:49.368 --> 01:39:52.550
But I think going into 2025,

01:39:52.550 --> 01:39:53.789
we're actually going to see

01:39:53.949 --> 01:39:54.951
somewhat similar.

01:39:55.190 --> 01:39:58.391
I think the day and age of

01:39:58.511 --> 01:40:00.492
getting 25 kids from high

01:40:00.532 --> 01:40:01.931
school are just completely done.

01:40:03.153 --> 01:40:04.432
Most programs across the

01:40:04.472 --> 01:40:06.293
country are not going to take massive,

01:40:06.354 --> 01:40:07.333
massive classes.

01:40:07.934 --> 01:40:09.054
I think we'll see something

01:40:09.113 --> 01:40:12.335
like 18 to 21 range with this class,

01:40:12.435 --> 01:40:14.475
depending on available talent,

01:40:14.876 --> 01:40:16.176
guys that they really like,

01:40:16.376 --> 01:40:17.837
positions that they want to fill up.

01:40:18.636 --> 01:40:20.037
But other than that, I think, you know,

01:40:20.398 --> 01:40:21.878
keep that flexibility to

01:40:22.060 --> 01:40:23.720
add some guys from the

01:40:23.761 --> 01:40:25.082
transfer portal is huge.

01:40:25.721 --> 01:40:27.462
We've seen the success rate so far.

01:40:27.563 --> 01:40:30.164
So definitely think it's

01:40:30.204 --> 01:40:31.985
going to be in the same range.

01:40:32.046 --> 01:40:33.948
And look like you look at last year,

01:40:33.967 --> 01:40:35.649
they have what the 47th

01:40:35.729 --> 01:40:37.550
overall class and people are like,

01:40:37.590 --> 01:40:38.711
you know, you're talking about the.

01:40:39.131 --> 01:40:41.694
But when you have a class of that size,

01:40:41.734 --> 01:40:43.354
if they were to continue on,

01:40:43.414 --> 01:40:45.337
if they are taking more talent, you know,

01:40:45.537 --> 01:40:48.479
assuming they're 86 and up or 87 and up,

01:40:48.539 --> 01:40:48.800
you know,

01:40:48.979 --> 01:40:50.442
then you start creeping into the top 30.

01:40:50.442 --> 01:40:50.742
So I think.

01:40:54.265 --> 01:40:55.565
If you have a class with

01:40:55.626 --> 01:40:56.926
higher average recruit

01:40:56.966 --> 01:40:59.509
talent that's smaller, you know,

01:40:59.548 --> 01:41:01.451
that if you were to add eight more guys,

01:41:01.470 --> 01:41:02.492
you'd be in the top 25.

01:41:02.492 --> 01:41:03.953
I think that's the position

01:41:03.993 --> 01:41:04.632
you want to be in.

01:41:04.993 --> 01:41:06.015
It's not about having an

01:41:06.095 --> 01:41:07.336
overwhelming amount of numbers.

01:41:07.395 --> 01:41:10.478
It's about having quality, you know,

01:41:10.738 --> 01:41:12.899
late teens and then add

01:41:12.939 --> 01:41:14.020
some transfer portal guys.

01:41:15.501 --> 01:41:16.563
So but say you think kind of

01:41:16.662 --> 01:41:18.265
aiming for that 88 average

01:41:18.525 --> 01:41:19.426
every year is going to kind

01:41:19.447 --> 01:41:20.849
of be that goal going forward,

01:41:20.889 --> 01:41:22.492
trying to keep that average high,

01:41:23.412 --> 01:41:24.494
regardless of whether where

01:41:24.534 --> 01:41:27.259
we're falling on the the total numbers,

01:41:27.479 --> 01:41:28.341
since that does kind of

01:41:28.381 --> 01:41:29.542
factor in more than number

01:41:29.582 --> 01:41:30.163
of the recruits.

01:41:30.546 --> 01:41:31.367
Yeah, absolutely.

01:41:31.407 --> 01:41:31.707
I mean,

01:41:31.867 --> 01:41:33.287
for as long as I've been doing this,

01:41:33.368 --> 01:41:34.989
then the goal was always

01:41:35.069 --> 01:41:37.091
about a top 25 class,

01:41:37.391 --> 01:41:39.292
a top 30 class like that.

01:41:39.493 --> 01:41:40.795
That is what was being said.

01:41:41.414 --> 01:41:42.595
And I think, you know,

01:41:42.615 --> 01:41:43.617
that's kind of shifted.

01:41:43.676 --> 01:41:46.338
It's not as important to have those top,

01:41:46.378 --> 01:41:46.559
top,

01:41:46.599 --> 01:41:48.801
top classes unless you're bringing in

01:41:48.801 --> 01:41:49.742
20 plus guys.

01:41:50.242 --> 01:41:51.122
So I think, you know,

01:41:51.162 --> 01:41:52.444
it's really important now

01:41:52.885 --> 01:41:54.926
to fill out your your spots

01:41:54.985 --> 01:41:56.847
with the top guys on your board and

01:41:57.207 --> 01:41:58.729
guys that you really value

01:41:58.788 --> 01:42:00.630
highly um and I think

01:42:00.670 --> 01:42:01.730
that's kind of the approach

01:42:01.751 --> 01:42:02.631
that they're gonna go with

01:42:03.252 --> 01:42:04.453
and of course like you'd

01:42:04.493 --> 01:42:05.833
love to have a top 25 class

01:42:05.873 --> 01:42:07.494
like who wouldn't but um

01:42:07.994 --> 01:42:09.015
yeah at the end of the day

01:42:09.055 --> 01:42:10.337
it's a numbers game you

01:42:10.356 --> 01:42:11.117
want to make sure that you

01:42:11.136 --> 01:42:12.997
have enough room to to if

01:42:13.158 --> 01:42:14.118
whatever happens that

01:42:14.158 --> 01:42:15.819
season you need to plug and

01:42:15.859 --> 01:42:17.400
play some guy like you you

01:42:17.440 --> 01:42:18.322
need to have room for that

01:42:19.153 --> 01:42:19.974
And I guess we're still kind

01:42:20.014 --> 01:42:21.654
of seeing some of the after

01:42:21.694 --> 01:42:22.815
effects of the COVID year

01:42:22.836 --> 01:42:26.057
for a lot of these high schools recruits.

01:42:26.097 --> 01:42:28.378
So that's probably maybe

01:42:28.479 --> 01:42:29.579
this is the last cycle,

01:42:29.600 --> 01:42:30.761
and it kind of starts to go

01:42:30.780 --> 01:42:32.561
away a little bit heading into 2026.

01:42:32.561 --> 01:42:34.462
But it seems like this is

01:42:34.483 --> 01:42:35.344
going to be the last year

01:42:35.363 --> 01:42:36.864
that's majorly affected by that.

01:42:37.305 --> 01:42:37.604
Yeah.

01:42:37.645 --> 01:42:37.926
I mean,

01:42:38.025 --> 01:42:39.327
wasn't there – there's like an

01:42:39.546 --> 01:42:41.228
Oregon – former Oregon

01:42:41.688 --> 01:42:42.488
tight end that's like

01:42:42.529 --> 01:42:44.350
playing his eighth year or something.

01:42:44.369 --> 01:42:45.130
Is it ninth year?

01:42:45.210 --> 01:42:45.591
It's eighth?

01:42:46.070 --> 01:42:47.752
It's eighth.

01:42:47.771 --> 01:42:48.493
The kid should –

01:42:50.037 --> 01:42:51.358
I hope it's the last year of that.

01:42:51.438 --> 01:42:51.978
Cause like it's,

01:42:52.097 --> 01:42:53.099
it's hard to keep track of.

01:42:54.039 --> 01:42:55.400
Well, I mean, I always get it.

01:42:55.640 --> 01:42:57.742
Like, you know, if people get hurt, yeah.

01:42:57.782 --> 01:42:59.323
You want to give them that chance.

01:42:59.542 --> 01:42:59.802
Right.

01:43:00.043 --> 01:43:03.466
But it's like, once you hit year six,

01:43:05.506 --> 01:43:05.886
get out,

01:43:05.907 --> 01:43:07.627
you just taken up a college chip spot.

01:43:08.368 --> 01:43:09.550
Like go get on with your life.

01:43:10.569 --> 01:43:11.291
Unless you're trying to get

01:43:11.331 --> 01:43:12.131
a doctorate and you don't

01:43:12.150 --> 01:43:12.792
want to pay for it.

01:43:14.092 --> 01:43:14.432
Fair enough.

01:43:15.213 --> 01:43:15.493
I mean,

01:43:15.755 --> 01:43:17.716
I'm trying to get a doctorate in

01:43:18.055 --> 01:43:19.618
something crazy and get out

01:43:19.637 --> 01:43:20.318
of here and make some money,

01:43:20.337 --> 01:43:21.298
and I don't want to have any debt.

01:43:21.738 --> 01:43:22.399
So I get that.

01:43:22.880 --> 01:43:23.980
Brian, Sheldon, Tally,

01:43:24.001 --> 01:43:25.282
y'all got anything else for

01:43:25.301 --> 01:43:26.182
Matej says tonight?

01:43:27.463 --> 01:43:28.045
No, man.

01:43:28.085 --> 01:43:30.145
It's been a wonderful time, as always.

01:43:30.386 --> 01:43:32.108
Matej, appreciate you coming on as always,

01:43:32.148 --> 01:43:32.287
man.

01:43:32.328 --> 01:43:33.548
It's always a blast when you're here.

01:43:33.908 --> 01:43:36.230
Love talking recruiting, obviously,

01:43:36.411 --> 01:43:38.172
but you're not just a recruiting guy.

01:43:38.412 --> 01:43:39.274
You have an all-around

01:43:39.354 --> 01:43:41.175
knowledge of Virginia Tech

01:43:41.215 --> 01:43:41.996
and the sport in general,

01:43:42.015 --> 01:43:43.037
so we really appreciate that.

01:43:43.442 --> 01:43:44.681
Yeah, I appreciate you guys.

01:43:45.221 --> 01:43:46.523
I think I'm getting up there

01:43:46.582 --> 01:43:48.563
with most recurring maybe, hopefully.

01:43:49.563 --> 01:43:50.363
You are fighting Mike

01:43:50.382 --> 01:43:51.604
McDaniel right now for it.

01:43:51.623 --> 01:43:52.583
So if you want to sneak one

01:43:52.703 --> 01:43:54.503
on just to come shoot the

01:43:54.524 --> 01:43:55.344
shit with us one night,

01:43:55.543 --> 01:43:56.323
you can pass Mike.

01:43:56.645 --> 01:43:56.984
Oh, yeah.

01:43:57.024 --> 01:43:57.965
I'll just come on for five

01:43:58.005 --> 01:43:59.204
minutes just to pass Mike.

01:43:59.244 --> 01:44:00.685
Just say you can pass Mike.

01:44:01.104 --> 01:44:02.466
But, man, I'm going to tell you,

01:44:02.485 --> 01:44:04.506
the thing is we have you on.

01:44:05.025 --> 01:44:05.466
Obviously,

01:44:05.506 --> 01:44:06.605
we'll look to summer to have you

01:44:06.685 --> 01:44:07.827
on again once we get in

01:44:07.886 --> 01:44:09.487
that hotbed of recruiting.

01:44:10.106 --> 01:44:10.947
in July,

01:44:11.347 --> 01:44:12.728
but it's every time you've come on here,

01:44:12.768 --> 01:44:15.109
you're, you educate us on so many things.

01:44:15.168 --> 01:44:15.328
I mean,

01:44:15.349 --> 01:44:16.748
there's so many names now that

01:44:16.788 --> 01:44:17.788
we're thinking about and

01:44:18.109 --> 01:44:19.109
the direction of this class

01:44:19.170 --> 01:44:19.750
is going to go.

01:44:20.149 --> 01:44:21.511
But the other thing I'll say is this,

01:44:22.371 --> 01:44:23.451
you're a Virginia tech alum.

01:44:24.070 --> 01:44:25.091
You love this program.

01:44:25.652 --> 01:44:26.391
Like you love it.

01:44:26.452 --> 01:44:27.431
We know that we know from

01:44:27.471 --> 01:44:28.512
having conversation with you,

01:44:28.573 --> 01:44:29.313
absolutely love this

01:44:29.353 --> 01:44:31.554
program and it shows in your work.

01:44:31.613 --> 01:44:33.274
It shows in the passion and dedication.

01:44:33.333 --> 01:44:33.694
And man,

01:44:34.395 --> 01:44:36.135
we really appreciate you sort of

01:44:36.175 --> 01:44:37.555
being our guy at 247 for the last,

01:44:38.975 --> 01:44:39.475
Three years?

01:44:40.596 --> 01:44:41.257
Three years, yeah.

01:44:41.377 --> 01:44:41.958
Three years?

01:44:42.418 --> 01:44:42.618
Yeah.

01:44:42.738 --> 01:44:44.100
It don't seem like three years,

01:44:44.140 --> 01:44:44.921
but it's three years.

01:44:46.381 --> 01:44:47.023
It really is.

01:44:47.222 --> 01:44:48.064
Time flies, man.

01:44:48.083 --> 01:44:49.725
But we appreciate you always coming on.

01:44:50.386 --> 01:44:51.806
And tonight with Mattesis,

01:44:52.106 --> 01:44:53.628
that wraps up this episode

01:44:53.649 --> 01:44:54.609
of the Boundary Corner

01:44:54.649 --> 01:44:55.850
podcast brought to you by

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And with our guest Matej Sis from 247,

01:45:06.529 --> 01:45:08.371
check him out on 247 right now.

01:45:08.390 --> 01:45:09.192
Are y'all running any

01:45:09.311 --> 01:45:10.912
specials that you know of?

01:45:11.474 --> 01:45:12.274
Not that I know of.

01:45:12.394 --> 01:45:13.694
Evan will probably kill me for that,

01:45:13.755 --> 01:45:15.417
but I do not know right now.

01:45:15.497 --> 01:45:16.356
So I'll check it out.

01:45:16.658 --> 01:45:19.699
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01:45:23.868 --> 01:45:24.470
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