As the Hokies enjoy Spring Break we are joined by VTScoop football writer and co-host of the Inside the Tunnel Podcast Matej Sis to discuss the new staff's approach to the recruiting trail so far. We also debate the players to watch this Spring from the '22 class and dive into the key prospects in the class of '23.

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Welcome back corner podcast, I'm
Curtis Wilson.

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I Brian siglo buddy.
Wednesday night.

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We're back at a little little
extended break here but we're

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back in business man.
Wednesday night extended break,

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have a truly awesome.
Guess we're about to bring on a

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couple seconds here.
ACC tournament, holy moly and

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saying that we got to bring this
guy down because he was going

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through it just like we were
we're going to bring them at a

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cyst from BT, scoop, 24/7, Rider
and inside the tunnel podcast,

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Mateo has your heart rate came
down yet after the ending of

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that game.
Listen, guys is about 20 minutes

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after the game.
My heart rate is still at an

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all-time high Apple watch
readings off the chart Darius

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Maddox, listen.
This is March and Virginia Tech,

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survives moves on.
Let's get it.

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Survive and Advance.
Exactly did it in dramatic,

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fashion, dramatic fashion.
All down the court, three at the

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buzzer in overtime to get that
one point victory over Clemson.

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And this is a game that the the
Hokies kind of had in hand for

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pretty much the duration.
I mean, it was, it was a little

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back-and-forth early, but once
we kind of got into the 20s and

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scoring Tech, kind of, put a put
a good good arm's length lead

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over the Tigers and then down
the last what?

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Four minutes yeah Tigers kind of
clogged back.

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And especially the last two
minutes of Regulation, really,

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kind of put the screws to the
Hokies there and got it, got it

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to overtime.
But Man, I'm just blown away by

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the way that thing in because I
thought we were in for another

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letdown in a little league game
like that.

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Yeah, that was awesome.
And I got us a credit to my

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kyung to because, you know,
taking out Kevin a illuma, put

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it on four guards, on the court,
you're going for the three, you

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know, it's make it an advance,
you miss it, you're going home.

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So he went, he went all in on
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Last play it paid off, who else?
That was incredible.

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And, you know, I thought the
game was well over right before

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the five-minute Mark and then,
you know, typical Virginia Tech

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fashion When things happen OT
hits, I'm thinking there's no

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shot and then you know all it
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what it was right at the end.
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I thought it was over to I told
these guys I I'm putting my son

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to bed and he asks hey what's
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I'm like I'll text like 12:12
that's probably over.

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I walked back down to the man
cave here and it's a four-point

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lead and I'm like what what did
we do while I was upstairs just

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to brief moment.
Um, and it had harken back to be

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see it.
Harken back to, you know, the

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first Miami game.
The, The State game these games

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were, as we were talking about
a, just a few minutes ago.

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If you, if we have these games
already won, we're in the

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tournament comfortable.
We're in, we're probably going

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to be somewhere between the 6
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Instead we're we're fighting for
our lives and and on to Notre

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Dame at 7:00 tomorrow night.
Thank God.

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We're in the seven slot.
Always such a nice lot to be

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such a nice lot to be lucky
number.

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Thankfully we you know we
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you know we weren't we weren't
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our chest while we're trying to
have a discussion on here.

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Yeah we're staying up for
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you know.
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Well we were going to do mattei.
We're going to tell you if they

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went to another over time.
We were just be like, hop on.

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We're just going to just live
watch it together.

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The game before we start the
interview tonight when we the

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first time we've done some shit
like that what happened?

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Exactly, we are notorious for
being the guys that are

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commenting on live games while
randomly talking about hope you

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Sports.
Yeah, I have to joke during like

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this season.
Like we do our episodes on

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Sunday nights and like one one
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the Colts and the Niners played,
and it was like listen everybody

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if you see our heads turn up,
We're watching the game.

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If we look distracted, we're
sorry but you know, we're

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continuing to watch it too.
So, hey, no, fair enough.

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All right, let me tell you
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What we thank you for joining us
tonight to kind of hit on some

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recruiting news on.
But, before we get into that,

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just give us a little background
on yourself.

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You know, how you came?
Obviously we know, you're a

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hokie, how you became that and
then, you know, how you got all

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the 24/7 and VT scoop?
Yeah, so long story short I want

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to go to a big school and high
school for college, I should

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say.
And, you know, I was looking

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around and, you know, Virginia
Tech just hit, you know, all my

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checkpoints and it wasn't
actually until my mom's friend

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who attended Virginia Tech said,
at the last moment you should

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check out this school.
It hits everything that you're

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looking for.
I wasn't even considering it as

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a New York boy, but you know,
applied got in actually a day

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after admission.
Missions ended saw my acceptance

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took one tour there and I just
knew it was the place I had to

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be you know I was a huge Sports
guy in high school was always

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around it.
Did some freelance work in high

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school writing about the NBA.
So when I got down to Virginia

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Tech was only natural.
I wanted to get involved with

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Athletics and, you know, I saw
an opportunity on the VTC scoop

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main page.
It was actually during the time

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that Josh sweat was announcing
That's when I first got into

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Virginia Tech recruiting and
saw, you know how vicious it

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could really be.
It was a week after that, after

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national Signing Day that Evan,
put it up.

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He said we're looking for one
more guy to join the team asked

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for three samples.
I didn't have three samples

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quickly wrote them up.
You know, had my mom edit them

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sent the Moran made sure
everything was Flawless and you

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know, we hopped on the phone for
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When I As a freshman at Virginia
Tech and you know, he said we'll

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bring you on, we'll do some work
and you know I've been there

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ever since so huge credit to
Evan for believing in me.

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And you know, it's been such an
amazing journey being able to

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get close to the program of the
school I attended.

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I mean, there's nothing better
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And, you know, even now you
know, well after college, I'm

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still involved as much as I can
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Also well that's kind of its
kind of great, you say all that

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and you know knowing your hokey
and mentioning, I think brought

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before we got on, at a
mentioned, his high school was a

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total of 600 people.
His first intro drop a class

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attack was 850 people.
So that's crazy to think

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chertok, you'll just let me ask
this because being not only

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obviously an alumni, being a
huge sports fan.

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When with the sun and being a
writer for BT scoop.

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You know, when we decided to go
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In November, when Justin Fuente
was fired, you know, how did

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this in fact you not only at BT
scoop but obviously being an

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alumni and being a fan of the
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Yeah, I mean it was definitely
Bittersweet and I know that

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rightfully.
So there's a lot of fans that

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want to change and you know from
my perspective it was always my

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role to Kind of keep an unbiased
take and kind of, see it for

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what it is.
But, you know, there were deep

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relationships built with the
with the last staff, but I gotta

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say, you know, everything that
has transpired since then the

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transition has been seamless.
And, you know, there's a, it's

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refreshing to have this change,
and to have people that are so

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passionate about what they do,
the new connections formed, it's

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obviously been great for VT
scoop, not only any time,

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there's a coaching change It
just the access that we have

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into the program was something
that was missing for a very long

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time and it's really, really
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I mean, that's the key word
there because, you know, we're

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able to see so much more as you
know, the common fan.

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But also in recruiting, we're
able to see, you know, a lot

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more of, you know what, the
prospects are telling us and

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those types of things.
So it's been really good and I

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have no complaints so far in the
first few months.

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That's awesome to hear.
Sounds like a little bit of the

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curtains been pulled back on the
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Absolutely.
From in a lot of areas not just

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on the recruiting side but it's
good to hear that.

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Some of those things are opening
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And I think the candidness that
coach prior kind of talks about

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things that pressors and other
interviews that he's done is big

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and one of the big things he's
talked about is kind of just how

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far behind they were with
relationship building with the

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In some of the other things for
the 23 class in your, in your

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view, just based on what you've
seen like, how far behind were

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the Hokies kind of at that
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And is there anything that
they've done since then the kind

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of, I guess shorten that Gap.
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that Virginia Tech is still
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They've done a lot better.
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formed, there still early.
Leon and you know, these types

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of things take time but in terms
of the first steps of what you

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have to do and you know, they're
saying they're putting an

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emphasis on Virginia and they
really have and they're going

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into all the high schools are
meeting all the people.

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They're not just meeting, you
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They're meeting administrators
teachers parents, you know,

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Friends of the parents of the
recruits.

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They're making sure that they're
meeting all the people of the

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area and really getting Virginia
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And I think You know, the last
staff while they had a wider net

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to cast, you know, sometimes you
just you have to build the

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program from the state that
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Virginia Tech has gone back to
its roots and I think you'll see

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in this class that Virginia is
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So they've done a lot better in
regards to Virginia, but I do

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think it's going to take time.
It's not going to be, you know,

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one cycle fix fixes all, but
this is a critical cycle in

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terms.
Of making sure that Virginia is

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a priority and I think we'll all
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Yeah, speaking of that, that
Virginia Blitz that they did.

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When they first got here hitting
70 plus schools, in obviously,

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we saw the big name schools
right now, we saw the PBS's, we

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saw Highland Springs.
We saw some of the big schools

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in Northern Virginia but then we
saw the smaller schools, they

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hit like an EC glass in
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They hit some of the, you know,
smaller Weston schools where I

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live which you know, produced
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Use one football player.
How much did that help?

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Get on track?
What you just mentioned?

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Yeah, I mean a lot of it a lot
of it that was that was the

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critical period of you know we
just got to Blacksburg what's

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our first plan of attack and
they said we have to go

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throughout Virginia.
I don't care if we have three

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hours of sleep every night,
we're going, and we're shaking

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the hands of every single high
school coach that we can that

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fees Chablis that we can within
this state and, you know, these

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are some areas that the coaches
have never been to, besides her,

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maybe a quick conversation, they
haven't, you know, had prolonged

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conversation, but they went in
there, they showed them who they

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were what they're about.
And I think a lot of the High

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School coaches have respected
that and you know, that's

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opening the doors.
Again, like opening the doors is

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so huge because there are some
guys that are sitting there

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with, you know, really notable
talent and they're like I'm a

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Virginia Tech fan, but a
Virginia Tech coach is never

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shook my hand.
Like they don't know about us,

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They don't know about the
prospects that we have, they

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haven't checked in once and it's
not just about going there,

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shaking the hand establishing
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But you know, since then keeping
the connections as well checking

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in making sure, you know the
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The coach is the parents, all of
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You know, they're doing a very
good job in upkeep and I think,

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you know, it's a, it's a
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It's very arduous.
But They're doing a great job of

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just making sure that Virginia
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everyone's Minds.
It seemed like they did a good

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job kind of the planning their
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We're seeing a little bit of
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right?
You see them following up.

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with this open Practice, coming
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So we talked about how there was

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Help with some of that with Lino
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kind of maintain the 22, but did
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and helping bridge the gap.
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But for 23, you know it's it's
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the guys what you already know
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job of that kind of Bridging the
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I'm counting.
This is 24/7 rankings.

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There are currently three Three
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Virginia committed to Penn
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And there's a fourth Tony Rojas
and I believe, I think, Brian

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did Brian, don't give him the
crystal ball to Penn State.

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Yes, I believe so, Rondon gave
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So, I've got to ask this You
know are these potential flip

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opportunities with this new
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Because of whoo, Brent prai is
Tyler.

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Bowen, are they pretty solid
with Penn State at the moment?

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to say no, I'm never going to
say there's not a potential flip

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opportunity here.
Barnwell is a Guy that sticks

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out that I think you know, later
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happens to him.
He's a four-star guy, you know

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Joshua Miller's another one that
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see, you know, right now they're
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Penn State.
They have a really good

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connection there and, you know,
there's a lot of Allure for Penn

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State but, you know, it's not to
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trying, but at the present
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are pretty locked in.
And I'll also say this, that you

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look at Virginia top 10 right
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And you see a lot of guys for
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the end of the cycle, it's going
to be funny if you come back and

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watch this right now to see the
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think there's going to be a lot
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top 10 when it's all said and
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And that's why you guys are the
best site.

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You guys continuously monitor
these kids at your camps?

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You're Weighing on your, you
know, seeing how they doing

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drills, you're seeing like their
40s plus continuously watching

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their High School tape in.
And I love that.

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That's why we always say when
we're here, it's like, what's

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Say he's a three-star / 24/7,

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he's a four-star. / 24/7, you
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Appreciate that.
Yeah, you guys just had what a

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pretty decent Shuffle with the
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Not too long ago if I'm not
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Yeah, but some of the updated
rankings so there was a little

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So let's talk about this a
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I know you said, you know, the
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based on where where the
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Are there any guys in that
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Top 10.
That that BT is sitting pretty

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good with at the moment.
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I mean, I can just give me one
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I'm not on the state rankings
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I think that Virginia Tech is
doing a good job, maybe not

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inside the top ten at the
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I think, you know, there will be
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I think I'm not sure where he's

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situated right now but a guy
like I Daniels running back, you

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know, Virginia Tech's in is top
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I think that's going to be a
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Obviously anytime you're
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although you know technically
they landed, you know, Brody

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Meadows.
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Now we haven't seen.
Brent pry, really yet in a

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heated battle with big schools,
trying to get the top guys.

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that's definitely attainable for
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And you know, I'm curious to see
how that one shakes out.

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I think there's going to be
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eventually end up in the top 10.
But yeah, we'll see.

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What about Antonio cotton?
He was a guy that has been

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visiting.
He's, you know, he's from here

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in the RV, a donut Life
Christian Academy, what's he

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look like he's he did looks like
you guys did slide him down a

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little bit, but obviously, like
you said, you guys are fluid.

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Where do they sit with him right
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Yeah, they're sitting very high
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He obviously got a ton of
Interest started camping, had

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one bad Camp which kind of
cooled off some programs but

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overall, All a guy that again
really likes Virginia Tech.

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I think another guy that you
kind of want to get into the

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program and show that Virginia
is a priority, I think, Virginia

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Tech will stay till the end with
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Whereas you know, some of the

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other big programs might go in
and out if they have a choice.

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So he's a guy that I think, you
know, remaining consistent with

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will pay dividends down the
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Awesome.
Now, let's kind of flip to this,

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you know?
Brent price, Tyler Bowen,

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Derrick Jones, the cheetah one
of the best follows on Twitter

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right now, a BT Sport deep into
it to hold him down in Carolina

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Pearson, you know, growing up in
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Minds.
These guys are kind of that

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along with JC price, kind of
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be running the big part of the
footprint Virginia.

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North Carolina, the DMV in
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Are you familiar with these guys
Styles?

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How they build relationships?
Just give us some insight on,

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you know, if you have something
on all of them.

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Great, if you have someone with
couple, yeah, I definitely have

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some some stuff on a couple, you
know, personally still getting

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to know some of them but yeah I
would say that without a doubt

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like with this staff, I'll just
speak generally here.

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But you know from what I know
this staff just in terms of like

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being available Bowl and
checking in with people there.

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So, almost Relentless in that,
that they're, they're constantly

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able to ask how your day is,
and, you know, see how you are

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like, relationships are key to
them and it's not always about

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football, it's not always about,
you know, what are your grades?

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What you know, who are you
hearing from?

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Should I be scared that another
schools coming into the mix?

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It's kind of like keeping it
real with everyone because they

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know what they have to offer
their experience.

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They trust that in the end.
If they build that relationship

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that that's going to be the
reason that you know, that

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recruit wants to come to
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And I think that's so critical
that they're confident in who

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they are, they know who they
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They know the proven strategies
and they've been really they've

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been really good so far.
So just in general I think

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another thing too is just, you
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putting them in in too many new
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It's kind of taking guys and
doing things that they're

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familiar with in places that
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So you know, the recruiting
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foreign to anyone and I think
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That's a huge thing as well.
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Looks like probably what Sean
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one that's probably working
outside of his normal recruiting

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area with working up in Northern
Virginia versus what Tennessee

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and Georgia Governor.
Yeah, Rudolph.

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I love the way like we hadn't
touched Ohio and years in what I

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like about a month ago, like all
these Ohio kids are tween like,

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Joe Rudolph, drove through West.
Virginia is getting up an Ohio

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and it's all Awesome.
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See ya I love it and I think,
you know specifically with guys

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like Joe Rudolph, you like I
feel like there's you have so

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many people that are in Virginia
and taking care of Virginia,

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taking care of North Carolina.
Pennsylvania like Maryland, you

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have so many connections there
and I think sometimes with

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staffs try to do is they, they
want to hit their Regional

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footprint and they'll pull guys
That aren't familiar with it and

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put them in areas where they
know nothing.

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And I think in the case of Joe
Rudolph, it's saying you're

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approving guy.
You know what you're doing,

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you've built these relationships
instead of taking you out of

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Ohio, why not?
Keep you there.

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It's tried.
It's true to tested and I think

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you know, he's a guy cheetahs.
Another guy that I think you

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know over time like for.
Now they're trying to keep

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everyone in these Regional
brackets.

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But I think over time, Time,
they'll kind of have, you know,

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free reign of where they want to
go and who they want to recruit.

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Because, you know, they've done
it for so long.

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They built so many relationships
and so many places that it would

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be a shame not to use them.
Yeah, speaking of those

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relationships, let's talk about
another higher that you know,

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some people were a little like,
oh, that was out of the blue and

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that's, that's fontelle.
Mine's kind of interesting

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higher being a UGA alumn and not
having a ton of power 5

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experience.
But what do you think that this

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higher in kind of what he brings
to the recruiting front for the

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Hokies?
Yeah, I mean it definitely was

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an interesting higher.
I think it's fair to say that.

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I'm think I'm giving away too
much and saying that there is a

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lot of candidates considered for
the position.

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And I think there's a reason
that, you know, is the last

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higher.
But or I guess I don't know if

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it was the last official higher,
but at least unofficially, I

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guess, but in terms of, you
know, his experience, not being

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in the power 5, I think what you
have already on staff is so much

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proven power, 5 experience that
bringing in a guy damn old.

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Old have a guy you know that's
so familiar with Virginia.

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Just the entire landscape of
Virginia a guy that you knows

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electrifying and conversation a
guy that's going to be again

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Relentless in building
relationships.

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Like that's what you want and I
think there's so many guys

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especially on the offensive side
that are like proven offensive

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Minds that they're going to make
the product work no matter what

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you want a guy that you know is
going to build those

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relationships with in Which is
such a priority for the program

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and I think he'll do a good job
and I know it's weird getting a

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UVA Alum.
I know that's a weird thing.

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I know he's talked about it and
you know talking about already

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late November next year, how
weird that's going to be.

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But I think he's a guy that's
fully bought in has all the

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values they were looking for and
kind of checked a lot of the

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boxes.
And I think when you look at

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him, it's mostly going to be
about recruiting with him.

443
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,800
And I think he definitely checks
all those boxes.

444
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:38,800
Exes.
I'm curious to see, you know,

445
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,800
how hard the wide receivers
going to develop is that going

446
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,100
to be a thing where multiple
coaches are kind of pulling in

447
00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:48,300
information for not only
recruiting, but development and

448
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:51,800
who's going to be in.
But in terms of recruiting, I

449
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,500
have no doubts with him, so it
sounds like you had a chance to

450
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,800
speak with Van tail.
I haven't personally, I know.

451
00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:03,600
Yeah, there's other guys on our,
on our team with really good

452
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,800
relationship with him, but he,
yeah, he's absolutely.

453
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,700
Great from everything that I've
heard it sounded like from your

454
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:13,200
comments there.
That someone always that's why I

455
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,300
asked did you speak with him?
Or someone had told you, like we

456
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:18,700
spoke with him holy moly, you or
an electrified.

457
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,900
I'll just say yeah I've heard
really good things about him so

458
00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:26,000
I'm excited to get the chance to
you know, shake his hand one

459
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,700
day, one day soon, I should say
probably very soon on this

460
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:34,100
coaching staff and as much as
their opening it up again, we

461
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,300
already talked about the open
scrimmage.

462
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:41,000
We won't be there.
Unfortunately or I won't be

463
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:41,800
there.
Brian.

464
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:44,100
Are you going to try?
Unfortunately, can't make it

465
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:47,000
because as you see behind me,
I'm in the midst of packing up

466
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,900
my own acid move, that's what
we're using for bronze.

467
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:52,700
Oh, he oh, wow.
Yeah, there's a cross man

468
00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:55,500
fingers crossed.
Let me ask this.

469
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:59,600
You know, we look at Brett
probably, look at Tyler Bowing

470
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,500
in a few other guys on this
staff.

471
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:06,700
And, you know, they have a real
real.

472
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,900
Experience up in the DMV area.
I mean I'm sitting here looking

473
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:16,500
brick, pry recruited guys, you
know like Curtis Jacobs Devon

474
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:23,100
Ford in Tyler Bowen Landing Ting
wall she'd Walker.

475
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,600
That's that area.
How big a boost do you think the

476
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,200
Hokies are going to see from the
DMV, you know, somewhere that's

477
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,700
been good to the Hokies?
If you're, if you're a hockey

478
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:40,400
fan is old as we are.
You know, it was a certain

479
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:45,100
running backs coach back in the
80s 90s and 2000 that basically

480
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:48,700
made a pipeline from DeMatha to
Blacksburg.

481
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:55,700
Could we see that form again
from that area with these guys?

482
00:28:55,900 --> 00:29:00,100
I think absolutely I think when
you look at and it's funny to

483
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:03,200
when you look specifically at
some of the Maryland

484
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,900
powerhouses, like how many guys
will be rated for stars?

485
00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:11,000
How many guys have ended up
going to Alabama, Michigan, Penn

486
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,800
State, even, you know, Marilyn
has gone a few and you know,

487
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,900
they've done a good job with
those four stars but yeah, I

488
00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:22,700
mean, especially Bowen Pry.
Even JC.

489
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:25,800
I mean, they have, they're
really going to make that a

490
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,900
destination for Virginia Tech.
And I think it's crucial that

491
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:36,300
it's them because so many, I
feel will go to Penn State and,

492
00:29:36,300 --> 00:29:39,200
and it's been tough to win any
of those battles.

493
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,700
It's almost like, as soon as
Penn State steps on campus, it's

494
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:47,400
their battle to win and Virginia
Tech really never had a chance

495
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,600
at least, you know, under the
last regime and a bit.

496
00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:54,600
Or but now, I feel like there's
a fair chance.

497
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,500
I feel like it's still going to
be an uphill battle, but when

498
00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:00,800
you're looking at the top end
talent year in and year out, I

499
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,600
think a lot of them are going to
come from that area and I think

500
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,900
it's crucial that you have guys
that are so proven and have

501
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,600
really, really great
relationships with a lot of the

502
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,800
coaches.
They're like, really, really

503
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,700
established relationships.
I think it's going to go a long

504
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:17,600
way.
And I think, yeah, just what I

505
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,700
said, like the star power of the
classes, We'll come from that

506
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:24,700
area.
So in with those with those

507
00:30:24,700 --> 00:30:28,000
battles that we were looking at
before with the previous regime

508
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,900
was that something that kind of,
as soon as they enter the table

509
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:35,500
that we backed off, or was that
more of a Penn State, but just

510
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:39,400
between their program, Prestige,
and the staff, they had, the

511
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,300
things that they were doing if
they were in the game and they

512
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:44,800
had a committable offer on the
table, it was kind of a done

513
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,200
deal.
It was kind of a done deal, and

514
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,000
you got to think that these are,
these are places that are

515
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,000
welcoming the top-tier power 5
programs.

516
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:58,200
And at, you know, at least like
once a week at, it feels like.

517
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:02,800
But, you know, I think Virginia
Tech really never got a seat at

518
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,800
the table and never felt that
way.

519
00:31:04,900 --> 00:31:09,100
I felt like they were able to
kind of get some of the guys

520
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:14,400
that maybe fizzled out or that,
you know, some of the top

521
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,900
programs overlooked.
But never really had a fair shot

522
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:21,800
with some of the top guys, and I
feel like the relationships

523
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,000
especially of Tyler bow, Owen
like there's going to be some

524
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,400
dividends in the future.
I don't know specifically for

525
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,500
the 23 class but I know down the
line there's there's going to be

526
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,200
you know they're going to be in
the conversation with a lot of

527
00:31:35,208 --> 00:31:37,500
these guys.
Okay that's good.

528
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:41,500
So let's pivot a little bit.
So we talked about kind of the

529
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,700
more media footprint.
Let's talk about some of the

530
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:47,700
larger footprint guys and some
of the coaches on staff that

531
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:53,400
have some experience there.
Like cheetah hope, Glen bow, And

532
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,700
Rudolph and Quinn, I know you
talked about Rudolph a little

533
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:59,000
bit already with the Ohio and
and some of the relationships

534
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,900
you guys there but how can those
kind of larger footprint guys?

535
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,500
Be a benefit on the on the
recruiting Trail for us?

536
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,300
Yeah I think they'll be good.
I think especially when you look

537
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:14,200
at like a state like Georgia I
think there's a lot of ties

538
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,600
there.
Now, you know, whole North

539
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,400
Carolina cheetah also in North
Carolina and a lot of Virginia

540
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,900
as well.
I think.

541
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,900
You know the six hour radius is
a big thing for this class,

542
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,100
getting guys that are closed and
you know, like I mentioned

543
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:34,400
before that a lot of these
coaches have experience in the

544
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,900
area outside of the area and
kind of what has become the

545
00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:41,000
regional footprint for Virginia
Tech.

546
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,500
So I think a lot of these guys
with their experience have, you

547
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:49,000
know, will will fit in nicely
and seamlessly identifying the

548
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,800
guys that they want to bring
into the class.

549
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,200
Let me ask This when the initial
press conference with Brent pry,

550
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,000
in the big hammer, home of we're
going to recruit Virginia.

551
00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:05,300
We all heard that, but when he
said, like that, six hour

552
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:08,800
radius, and he really, you know,
he liked it was like an

553
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,400
inflection point.
They're like, if you can drive

554
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,700
to get here, we're coming after
you.

555
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,200
When you hear that, and then
kind of knowing the the previous

556
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,200
regime in, they did go out some
of our normal boundaries.

557
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,300
What did that make you think?
Do you think that coaches in

558
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:33,800
that six hour radius who maybe
had forgotten about Virginia

559
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,500
Tech, did you think that maybe
their ears perk a little bit?

560
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:40,100
Yeah, absolutely.
And I think that when your, when

561
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,800
your footprint is too wide when
you're casting your net, too

562
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,100
wide and you know, there was
never a Consolidated effort, I

563
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:51,300
felt like in the past six years
where, you know, whether it was

564
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,100
North Carolina to VT Texas 2vt
there was never like a Inserted

565
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:59,700
effort to make something
permanent for Virginia Tech.

566
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:02,800
It was like this class is good
people from Texas.

567
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,200
We know these people were going
to try to get them and then you

568
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,300
know that ultimately didn't work
out, you know, the one year with

569
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,000
Trey Turner and Dax hollifield
like that was great.

570
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,400
But then, you know, dividends in
future years didn't really come

571
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,199
out of North Carolina.
So I think it's important to not

572
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:23,000
only state that Virginia is the
priority and the six hour

573
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,300
radius, which is very real, by
the way.

574
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:30,199
But also to make it your
mission, not only for this class

575
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:34,300
but for future classes as well,
like it's not just to build the

576
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:38,300
pipeline for Virginia to get a
couple guys to come in and sign

577
00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:41,300
for 23.
You know, this is this is about

578
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:45,100
Shoring up the program not just
for this recruiting cycle coming

579
00:34:45,100 --> 00:34:49,500
up but that in you know, five
six years you're getting all the

580
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,900
top guys from Virginia.
That that's the first choice on

581
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:55,400
the minds of these guys, not
Florida, State, not pens.

582
00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:59,600
State not Michigan.
They want it to be Virginia Tech

583
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,400
and I think they truly believe
that and sharing that direction,

584
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,200
you know, as far as I know
everything that they're doing

585
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,600
right now is back in that up, so
they really believe in that and

586
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,100
they want that to be the
mission.

587
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:18,300
Yeah, it's like almost having a
marketing strategy in in

588
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:21,000
occasionally, just getting off
kilter of who your best clients

589
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,700
are like, oh, they're our best
clients, we can just go to them

590
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:27,700
whenever we need them, and we'll
get what we need.

591
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:29,700
But we're going to try to go
over here and over here and over

592
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:34,000
here and eventually people, you
know, they remember like, you

593
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,600
know, we had a couple kids that
could have came to you guys.

594
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,600
That could have been
contributors but because they

595
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,500
weren't The move was known kids
or have the best tape.

596
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:46,500
You chose to try to chase other
folks.

597
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:51,500
So it's interesting to see that
they it seems Brent pride and

598
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:56,400
his staff have a true recruiting
strategy and it's not just going

599
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,800
to be off with him and you know
what you've got to say Ron also

600
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,000
say it's just it doesn't seem as
scattershot.

601
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:07,200
It seems like there is a focus
and they're like, here's our

602
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,400
primary focus.
Here is our secondary focus and

603
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,500
they're building out from that.
At and and it's shown how they

604
00:36:13,900 --> 00:36:17,200
Blitz Virginia out the gate and
then they've kind of spread the

605
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000
net a little bit wider.
As things have opened up further

606
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,200
into the recruiting cycle for 23
and it didn't seem like that

607
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,200
previously, it definitely seemed
like he was kind of flavor of

608
00:36:29,207 --> 00:36:31,400
the month whatever, whatever
they thought might work.

609
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,700
This cycle was was kind of the
plan instead of having a master

610
00:36:35,700 --> 00:36:40,500
plan that they can apply across
multiple cycles that builds

611
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:43,800
those Relationships to kind of
build that foundation for that

612
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,500
long term success on the
recruiting Trail 100%.

613
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:50,800
And just to clarify one thing
like the six out, the six hour

614
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:55,300
radius is very real, but like if
someone comes at me in a few

615
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,400
weeks and they say, oh, they
just offered this guy.

616
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,000
Like I know there's someone out
of Alabama, TJ Metcalf that's

617
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,900
like six hours and 25 minutes
that they offered, but don't

618
00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:07,300
come at me for that.
Like, there's yes, it is mr.

619
00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:09,400
Every rule, right?
But like the person still going

620
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,200
to be in Jacksonville.
Together.

621
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,300
These, you know, those things
happen.

622
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:19,200
And, of course, if you, if
you're in the driver's seat for

623
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,200
a guy in Florida, that's, you
know, an unbelievable talent

624
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,700
that fits exactly the criteria
or looking for you.

625
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:27,700
Bring them in.
I think the difference is that's

626
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:31,500
not your primary, you know?
Hashtag that's not your primary

627
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:34,700
focus.
Obviously when they come up when

628
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:37,900
you leverage your relationships
that you've established, those

629
00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:39,900
are the guys you're going to go
after, and sometimes they're

630
00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:42,200
going to, you know?
Be a little further, but if they

631
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:47,500
want to be a hokie who's to say,
no. 1000% and it's kind of funny

632
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:51,500
you talk about the Florida thing
with like you had Devin Alva's.

633
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:57,000
You know the late signing, no
one like no one saw coming and

634
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,600
it was one of those.
It was a relationship.

635
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,300
He had with that beliefs to hold
and you know, down at Melbourne

636
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:06,100
and next thing you know they've
got a six 285-pound defensive

637
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:10,200
back that you know, like most
people sit and think it's like

638
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,400
oh he's from Florida and he's
that size and his table looks

639
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,200
good.
Okay.

640
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:20,000
Come on down, speaking of
Florida, let's turn to this just

641
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,600
a little bit away from what we
talked about the footprint and

642
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,400
let's talk about the defensive
coordinator.

643
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,500
Chris Marv.
Obviously star pupil of Brent

644
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:31,700
pry when they were down, when
Coach Brown was down at

645
00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:37,700
Vanderbilt, you know, all-sec
guy, he is got his foot in the

646
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:40,700
door coaching, he's starting to
get accolades and, you know,

647
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,200
starting to build the reputation
as a great on field coach.

648
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:51,000
His recruiting record, you know,
it does have some okay hits, you

649
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,500
know, he got both orgy kids out
of Texas, you know.

650
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:59,100
Alex orgies Brothers to come to
Vanderbilt and a couple three

651
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:02,600
stars at Mississippi State, and
Florida State, you know, which,

652
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:04,500
you know, these guys are pretty
new.

653
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:10,400
They were price of 19 glasses or
class of 20, class of 22, but

654
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:14,900
How can he be an asset on the
recruiting Trail?

655
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,300
Because he doesn't have that
long-running thing like a lot of

656
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:20,900
these guys do.
Yeah.

657
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:27,100
And and you know, I upon his
hire I sought out a lot of

658
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,100
advice information from some of
the Florida State guys at 24/7.

659
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:33,900
And I know there's a lot of
stories out there about how he's

660
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:37,800
a bad recruiter and, you know,
couldn't build relationships and

661
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,700
I think a lot of that is
overblown It's not like, this is

662
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:45,600
a guy that won't talk to anyone
that's too shy, but I think in

663
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,800
terms of going out and and
seeking those relationships, I

664
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,000
think that's where he struggled
at Florida State.

665
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,200
And I think, you know, his role
at Virginia Tech is a lot

666
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,400
different.
You know, he's going to be

667
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,900
primarily focused on game
planning and whatnot but you

668
00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:06,600
know, the way I would say it is
this you have a bunch of guys on

669
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,500
staff that are good at creating
relationships.

670
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,900
You do.
It's their bread and butter,

671
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:16,100
they can establish them.
When you have an event at

672
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:19,300
Virginia Tech where you're
bringing guys in, and you have a

673
00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:22,600
guy that's highly interested in
Virginia Tech wants to play on

674
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,700
the defensive side.
If you bring him into Marv's

675
00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:28,800
office and you're just talking
about X's and O's.

676
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:33,000
I mean that's that's an area
where he can Excel you know he

677
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,200
can break down the defense, tell
them step by step.

678
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,100
This is what it's going to look
like in year one.

679
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:41,300
This is what it's going to look
like in year 2 and And not only

680
00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:44,600
that, but like he, you know, he
once the relationship is

681
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,100
established, she's going to be
fine.

682
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,700
You know, I think again, like a
lot of those stores were

683
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:53,700
overblown, and I think he'll be
fine on the recruiting Trail.

684
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:56,800
I wouldn't expect him to be, you
know, an ace by any means.

685
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,100
But in terms of getting guys in
the boat, I think he'll be

686
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:04,300
absolutely fine.
And I think that, you know, his

687
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:09,800
main perk in recruiting will be
just kind of detailing.

688
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,600
The defense has Talking about,
you know, his experience and

689
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:18,000
especially as a young guy that's
you know as a defensive

690
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,500
coordinator that's going to
bring a lot of guys in I think.

691
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,900
Yeah, and I know you talked
about talked to a lot of guys

692
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:28,800
with the the flip his time at
Florida State, they're in.

693
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,700
We talked about recruiting most
of the time he spent in Florida

694
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:36,800
State were under the covid,
protocols?

695
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,800
Right.
Yeah, so, did you think that had

696
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,500
any impact on the way he was
able to develop those

697
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,200
relationships during his time at
Florida?

698
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,400
State, definitely couldn't
couldn't necessarily, you know,

699
00:41:48,408 --> 00:41:51,900
be face-to-face or a lot of that
one-on-one that normally would

700
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:54,100
get in a typical recruiting
cycle.

701
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:57,400
Yeah, I definitely think so.
And I think, you know, even some

702
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,000
of the some of the guys that
have come in in the 22 class of

703
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:04,100
said, nothing, but positive,
things about talking with him

704
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,000
and his plan for the defense.
And obviously a lot of that

705
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,800
comes from Brent pry.
So, you know, it's not just

706
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,000
about Marv it's about Pride as
well.

707
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,300
And, you know, they have that
Vision in store.

708
00:42:17,300 --> 00:42:19,600
I think covid-19 fully big part
of it.

709
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,400
I mean obviously I I don't
really have the room to talk too

710
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,000
much about what happened at
Florida State, but, you know, I

711
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,700
think I'll be absolutely fine.
I think it's a little overblown

712
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,400
again.
Don't expect them to be like,

713
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,400
you know, the ace recruiter.
But I think he doesn't have to

714
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,900
be with the staff.
And I think that's fine.

715
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:40,900
You know, you have to know your
role and how you fit into the

716
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:46,400
equation.
So let's let's kind of pivot

717
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,700
than a little bit to back to the
22 class.

718
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,900
Were you impressed by the way
that pride and especially JC and

719
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:58,200
Pearson that were, you know,
working a lot more on the road

720
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,800
there how they were able to keep
the kind of the 22 class, more

721
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,200
or less intact is things closed
out after the regime change?

722
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,500
Yeah, I definitely was.
I think you know, when you look

723
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:11,200
at Gunner, Givens, I think for
such a long time, I mean, it was

724
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,100
obvious, he wanted to go to
Virginia Tech and I think

725
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:17,100
towards The end there was a
little bit of uncertainty and I

726
00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:19,500
think you know, schools like
North Carolina really came into

727
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:23,100
the mix came after him hard and
you know look at North

728
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,200
Carolina's track record in the
last two years.

729
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,400
They're pretty much getting
whoever they want and you know

730
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,900
price was a big one there.
Benji Gosnell was another one

731
00:43:31,900 --> 00:43:35,100
that I think they had to fight
hard for you know getting guys

732
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:40,900
like Brody, Meadows, Keyshawn
Burgos, Xavier Chaplin.

733
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:45,200
Was another one that I know he
took a while but that was a One

734
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,100
to keep in the boat Daquan,
right?

735
00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:53,300
Was another one that took a bit
of time but eventually came to

736
00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:56,100
Virginia Tech because he
believed in the staff and then,

737
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,700
you know, guys like zaevion
Bradshaw like that was such a

738
00:43:59,707 --> 00:44:03,200
huge one for the class.
So not only did he keep the

739
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,900
class intact, but I felt like he
added substantial value to the

740
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:11,500
class as well, to really round
it out and get them proven,

741
00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:15,400
guys, you know, that may have
been looked or didn't fit the

742
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,500
criteria of the old regime.
He said, you know what, these

743
00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:21,600
are good players.
We want them in the fold, will

744
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,700
figure out a home for them.
We'll make it work and to be

745
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:29,500
able to do that with such little
time is definitely impressive.

746
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,100
Yeah, it's funny.
You mentioned Xavier and

747
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:38,000
Bradshaw because it was really,
really storied of how Louisville

748
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,000
and Michigan were pushing hard
till the end on him.

749
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:43,600
But you mentioned Daquan right
where there are other schools

750
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,000
trying to push day.
On.

751
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,200
Yeah.
So yeah.

752
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,000
After he kind of rose up the
rankings, you know, in the

753
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,300
latter months.
Yeah.

754
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:53,800
So there is a point in time
where I really thought that he

755
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,700
was going to end up going to
Georgia Tech.

756
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,200
Yeah.
And you know, luckily for

757
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,800
Virginia Tech he stayed.
I think he's going to be an

758
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,000
exceptional ball player when
it's all said and done.

759
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,500
But you know, there was a time I
think he was wavering a little

760
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:12,900
bit, there is a time where, you
know, communication kind of shot

761
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:16,300
down and I think that's when we
started to get a little worried,

762
00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:21,500
but then, you know, things even
doubt and, you know, obviously

763
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:26,100
ended up signing so Yes, that
was a big one for us.

764
00:45:26,100 --> 00:45:30,000
We've been kind of talking about
Daquan right on this program for

765
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,800
a while since since the day he
committed.

766
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,300
Yeah, baby go.
I saw his tape I was like oh

767
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:56,100
Is severely under a 24/7, has
him right at a four-star, right?

768
00:45:56,100 --> 00:46:00,200
He's an 88, you know I don't
know what maybe it was.

769
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,700
The he what is he going to be in
college?

770
00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:04,900
And he never gave me that pole
star he's Greener.

771
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,900
But who else in this 2022 class
is kind of flying a little bit

772
00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:16,100
under the radar in your opinion.
There's a couple, I would say

773
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,500
definitely zaevion Bradshaw, I
think he's going to be a stud,

774
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:24,500
you know, he obviously got that
at the last minute, a late

775
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:27,400
high-ranking.
I think he's an 86.

776
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,700
If I'm not mistaken, unless they
changed it and made him like an

777
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:34,100
87 or 88.
But he's someone that I think

778
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:40,100
can play Early Mansoor d'Alene,
he is like a prototypical, big

779
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:43,500
ten type of like hybrid safety
almost I think.

780
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:49,000
He could play corner or safety.
He's a hard hitter, you know, I

781
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:51,900
he was another one.
I thought that could have gone

782
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:55,100
to Michigan State, but ended up
sticking out.

783
00:46:55,100 --> 00:47:00,800
What's Virginia Tech Bryce Duke?
He's someone that put up video

784
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,300
game numbers in high school and
you kind of Wonder.

785
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:07,000
Okay, well, this guy really
translate to the college level,

786
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,500
like, we haven't really seen it
before, at least at Virginia

787
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:13,500
Tech with these guys that are,
you know, scoring 50.

788
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:17,300
Touchdowns in a year.
But he's someone that early on

789
00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:20,000
is really standing out.
I think he could have a role

790
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:24,600
really early on and then Braylon
more brilliant more I think will

791
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,800
be really good for Virginia Tech
obviously, carrying on the

792
00:47:28,808 --> 00:47:30,200
Legacy.
I don't think he's going to

793
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,700
stick at defensive line or
wherever they're trying to play

794
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:35,600
him.
I think Joe Rudolph is going to

795
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,400
make one quick phone call get
him on the offensive line.

796
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,600
He's going to be a writer left
guard and he's going to make a

797
00:47:41,607 --> 00:47:45,200
living there.
So what you're saying is about a

798
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,800
week from today, when they get
into the room with spring

799
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,700
practice, he's just going to
walk to j.c. and be like, this

800
00:47:51,700 --> 00:47:55,100
is, he's not bad.
He's coming over here with us.

801
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:57,700
I mean, he's probably in the
d-line room right now, just

802
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:01,300
because of the deficiency, we
have at the be tackle in terms

803
00:48:01,300 --> 00:48:02,500
of death.
Yeah.

804
00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:06,300
All by the way, you asked
Bradshaw 8787.

805
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:12,000
Yeah.
So, and we discussed just a few

806
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,000
about a month.
Ago.

807
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,300
After official Signing Day about
Bryce, do you?

808
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,700
And I think people are he is
being overlooked in the video

809
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:22,900
game numbers and its northern
Virginia.

810
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:27,100
It's not Downs average on the
75, but when you look at the

811
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:30,600
division, he played, and he
played in for a that's not

812
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,200
lightweight division.
Now that's not five or six here

813
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,900
in Virginia, but he was playing
some solid teams and, you know,

814
00:48:38,900 --> 00:48:43,400
and you kind of look he looks
like he's had Some success in

815
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,700
The Hunger Games, which has been
some awesome footage to see.

816
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,300
And obviously essentially
crowning guys every week for

817
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:56,300
their performance, which is a
great thing in my opinion

818
00:48:56,300 --> 00:49:01,900
because I'm sure those guys get
to walk around, you know, like

819
00:49:01,900 --> 00:49:05,800
peacocks in the new training
center in new performance center

820
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:09,900
when they win that, I don't know
if they get anything special but

821
00:49:10,900 --> 00:49:17,300
you know, Morel d'Alene was
Michigan State, making a push

822
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:22,000
lady at him because he seemed
pretty solid all the way through

823
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,400
after he committed back in the
summer.

824
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,500
Yeah, I was talking to some guys
at Michigan State and I think,

825
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:31,200
you know, at one point they
thought that he was, you know,

826
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:35,000
Signed Sealed Delivered.
So, you know, there's a lot of

827
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:40,500
stories that, you know, some
recruits have where, you know,

828
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:42,900
there's there's turmoil in the
program, they don't know what.

829
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,200
It's going on, you start to
doubt it and you know, other

830
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,100
schools will seize the
opportunity to use that and you

831
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:54,800
know, he saw things out, he
didn't make any rash decisions

832
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,300
and you know, he couldn't be
happier to be a hokie today, but

833
00:49:59,300 --> 00:50:03,900
yeah, he was definitely one that
whether or not like, you know,

834
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:07,300
sometimes there's a recruit
where the coach says, look, I

835
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:09,800
know you don't want to go here.
I know you're locked in.

836
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,900
Just let's take this visit.
Let's see what it's about.

837
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,500
About maybe it's a good option
if things don't pan out at the

838
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:20,000
school, you're committed to and,
you know, more times than not

839
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,000
they'll lead to flips.
And, you know, he was a case

840
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,300
where he said, okay, I'll go
check it out, I'll listen to

841
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:29,400
what they have to offer.
But in the end stayed true to

842
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,800
his commitment.
And the better for us because

843
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:37,500
like like you said I'd looking
at his tape he looks like he's

844
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:40,700
somebody that could be a
definite studying the future.

845
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,800
But let's talk about what
potentially could be happening

846
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:48,500
in the in the 22 season for the
Hokies.

847
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:51,100
You know, we're one week away
from the start of Spring ball

848
00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:56,100
and we had a big crop of early
enrollees from the class of 22

849
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:58,800
half are there aliens?
Yeah.

850
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,400
If are there?
Yeah, that's that's that's

851
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,900
bananas.
Has but are there any of those

852
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,200
early enrollees that had the
potential to get in there for

853
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,000
the 2D if they have a solid
effort in the spring and then in

854
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,500
Fall Camp?
Yeah, I mean, it's tough to say

855
00:51:15,500 --> 00:51:18,400
without knowing the true vision
of what Virginia Tech's going to

856
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,000
look like, you know, both
offensively and defensively

857
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,500
right now.
But you know, like I mentioned

858
00:51:23,500 --> 00:51:25,600
Braylon Moore's, a guy that I'm
really looking at.

859
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,600
I think he could play early, and
I know it's tough, sometimes on

860
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,600
the offense of line, but I think
he's going to get in there and

861
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,300
Ending on, you know, how solid
he is.

862
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,700
He could see time in the too
deep.

863
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:40,500
Benji Gosnell is another guy.
I know he's coming off injury

864
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:45,200
but you know, absolutely looks
the part plays the part.

865
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,300
I think he could really make an
impact there, and I think he'd

866
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:52,900
be a welcomed addition.
And then, I guess the last name,

867
00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:57,100
I'll give you is Bryce Duke.
I think, you know, I understand

868
00:51:57,100 --> 00:52:01,600
again, like the hesitation like
we've seen guys like Colton Beck

869
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,300
the Before that everyone's like
oh track speed video game

870
00:52:05,300 --> 00:52:09,700
numbers in high school, you
know, maybe he won't like

871
00:52:09,900 --> 00:52:12,700
everyone wants to see him pan
out right away and then all of a

872
00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:16,200
sudden he switches to track I
think Bryce Duke is a guy that

873
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:21,800
could definitely see reps on
kick return specifically so I'd

874
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,800
be excited for him.
I think, you know, and again,

875
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,700
like running back is wide open
so you never know.

876
00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:32,700
And I think that's the one one
of the most Natural positions in

877
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:35,900
football, where you either have
it or you don't and, you know,

878
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:40,600
it's dependent on more than you
and he has a skill set so I'd be

879
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,600
interested to see what ends up
happening with Bryce.

880
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,100
Do if he stays at running back,
they put them, you know, as kind

881
00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:51,600
of a hybrid guy on the offense,
but I definitely think he'll get

882
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,200
a chance at the very least to be
on kick return if he wins that.

883
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,200
I don't know but he'll get a
chance.

884
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:04,700
Yeah, Brian three weeks ago, we
did some film breakdown on and

885
00:53:04,700 --> 00:53:07,300
Brian hit the offense and he
said something that he noticed

886
00:53:07,300 --> 00:53:11,100
about Tyler bones offense is,
there's a lot of carries to go

887
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:14,500
around.
And would you say Brian that?

888
00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:18,200
It wouldn't shock you that if
there were three guys getting 10

889
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,900
12, a game, I think there's
going to be a lot of games where

890
00:53:21,900 --> 00:53:24,300
there's going to be three guys.
Getting about 10 carries or

891
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:27,600
more.
So just just based on what I've

892
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:32,600
seen from the games that That
Boeing is called and kind of

893
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:36,400
cross referencing that with some
of the tape from games that Jim

894
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,900
Moorhead is called and trying to
see if if that's going to be

895
00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:43,000
more or less what Tyler's going
to do if there's going to be

896
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,700
some some variations from that.
But if he holds true to what how

897
00:53:47,700 --> 00:53:53,500
he called games, With Joe Boar
Head, then it's going to be a

898
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:57,200
lot of carries for about two to
three, guys and a lot of

899
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,700
opportunities for it out.
Yeah, so I don't think that

900
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:05,200
Bryce do is out of the question.
And again, I don't think

901
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,100
Brethren Wars out of the
question because I think having

902
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:12,500
guys like I think just having a
new coaching staff, you just

903
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:14,400
feel like the slates wiped
clean, right?

904
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:19,500
Like you know, there are no
favorites and prizes said that a

905
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:22,000
few times.
Times about how we're creating a

906
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,200
new depth chart.
It's what you do on that field

907
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,900
in February and early March in
these conditionings.

908
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:34,200
And, and that's to me, I guess,
it's refreshing, right?

909
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:38,600
Because you feel, like, if
anybody had been hiding back for

910
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,900
whatever reason, it's not
anymore.

911
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:44,500
Go out there bust your ass and
show the coaches, what you can

912
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:49,500
do.
All right, so kind of last.

913
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:53,800
Question for Wii.
Jump off the recruiting stuff

914
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,400
here but you know, let's take
three years from now.

915
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:02,200
We have you back on this 2025,
what's going to be your

916
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:05,400
measuring stick for success in
these initial classes.

917
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:11,300
Really 23 and 24 for Coach pry.
You know with these classic

918
00:55:11,300 --> 00:55:16,100
commits?
Yeah, I think when you look at

919
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:19,600
these first classes that are
going to come in, I think what

920
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:25,400
you want to see by that time, Is
retention because we've seen so

921
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,100
much turnover and previous
classes, but not just keeping

922
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:32,600
the guys on campus and having
them buried on the depth chart.

923
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,100
But guys, that are going to
develop and become players for

924
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:41,300
Virginia Tech and as much as we
talk about like this might, you

925
00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:43,600
know, the support staff budget
went up, you know,

926
00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:45,900
exponentially.
And that's because you want to

927
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:49,800
get guys with ton of experience
a ton of recruiters, you want to

928
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,100
change the image of the program.
But the These are guys that

929
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:55,700
their best traits as coaches
are.

930
00:55:55,700 --> 00:56:01,200
Developing, guys, getting guys
to stay and and finding players

931
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,300
in recruiting cycles that are
going to not just make an impact

932
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:09,300
for a year, but be starters for
multiple years to be the

933
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:11,600
identity that these coaches
want.

934
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,100
So, you know, whether that's an
offensive tackle, that's, you

935
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:18,800
know, a multi-year starter
that's, you know, hit the weight

936
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,500
room hard and, you know, now
you're talking about a guy

937
00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:26,000
that's a All ACC guy, you know,
that's that's the vision for a

938
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,400
lot of these guys and you know
most importantly, I think

939
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:32,700
representing Virginia.
I think that's going to be a big

940
00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:35,400
one that I think they're making
calculated moves.

941
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,700
Right now that this class is
about Virginia they're going to

942
00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:42,800
want someone to shine and prove
to the rest of the state that

943
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,700
hey, I came from Virginia.
I'm playing at Virginia Tech.

944
00:56:46,700 --> 00:56:50,700
We're winning football games.
This is the place to be and I

945
00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:53,600
think you need to have all those
those things get guys from the

946
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,700
state, keep them happy at
Virginia Tech.

947
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,300
And not only that, but have
success on the field, it's not

948
00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:02,800
just about getting there.
It's about staying there and

949
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,500
proving that, you know, you're
one of the best in the

950
00:57:05,508 --> 00:57:12,300
conference.
Yeah, I love hearing that and I

951
00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:15,200
think that's that's kind of what
we were thinking as well in

952
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,600
terms of success.
The big thing that you said that

953
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,100
really kind of stands out to me
and something I hadn't really

954
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,500
necessarily considered but as
you said having someone from the

955
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:28,800
state that whether it's a top 10
in the state or whether it's

956
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,600
somebody that was even further,
further down that list on the on

957
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,400
the recruiting Trail.
There that comes to Virginia,

958
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:41,500
Tech multi-year, starter and and
starts winning some big Names on

959
00:57:41,500 --> 00:57:43,900
the field for us.
I think that that would be

960
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,700
something that we can point to
and say, Here's what you can be

961
00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:50,000
when you come to Virginia Tech.
Yeah, absolutely.

962
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,800
And obviously, like winning is
the barometer, right?

963
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,700
Like you have to win games, like
there may not be a pride 25.

964
00:57:56,700 --> 00:58:01,500
If there's not a lot of wins on
the board but it's going to

965
00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:04,300
start it in Virginia and it's
going to stay in Virginia and I

966
00:58:04,300 --> 00:58:06,700
think, you know, that has to be
the focus.

967
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,700
Yeah, I'm with you because I
think if you start winning that

968
00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:16,600
state again or your state again,
it's sort of like it's the

969
00:58:16,607 --> 00:58:20,200
ripple effect.
Because if kids come from

970
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,700
Virginia and they start having
success, then if the kids from

971
00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:27,100
Carolina, that hear about it and
the kids from Maryland and

972
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:32,900
Pennsylvania and it goes outward
much as it did, you know, 25

973
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:36,400
years ago.
You know, a lot of people will

974
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,700
go back and look at class in 95
that want all those games.

975
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,200
You know, you start going
through it, you did have a lot

976
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,600
of Virginia, guys, don't get me
wrong but you had, you know,

977
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,100
George, do Rico and JC from
Maryland.

978
00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:51,800
You had some Florida, guys, you
had Pearson from South Carolina,

979
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:57,600
you know?
Yeah, it wasn't like, everyone

980
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,300
was from Virginia, not a cop
know.

981
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,600
The things Brent prize
discussing is essentially What

982
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:09,000
made this program, what it was
for close to 20 years?

983
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:13,000
Focus on your state and then let
the Ripple happy because when

984
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:16,400
the Ripple happens, you're going
to get that Pearson, pray that

985
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,300
you're going to get that poor
Ian gray, you're going to give

986
00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:22,100
you that Kevin Jones after the
national James y'all trip.

987
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,800
So I think it what they have in
place is unbelievable.

988
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:31,500
I think you know the things that
you're hearing also, something

989
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:36,100
else I love is hearing you talk
about how you feel like you're

990
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:40,100
getting more access your hearing
more in.

991
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:44,000
And I know this is your job and
but we know you're a fan of you

992
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,800
because you went to the school
and you love the school and

993
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,200
we're fans.
This is what we want.

994
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:49,900
We want to hear things about
what's going on.

995
00:59:49,900 --> 00:59:53,800
You don't have to show us
everything you don't but like

996
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,800
what they're doing?
Next weekend is unbelievable.

997
00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:00,500
Under or somebody had something
like this.

998
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:04,600
And at least six years.
And I know I was going to say,

999
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,900
even when we're talking about
like the too deep, you know,

1000
01:00:08,100 --> 01:00:12,000
when when we would talk about,
okay, what are we getting?

1001
01:00:12,300 --> 01:00:15,600
How are we evaluating these new
guys coming in?

1002
01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:19,300
You would hear like Justin
Fuente say oh this guys doing

1003
01:00:19,300 --> 01:00:21,300
well and all of a sudden
everyone's like oh is he going

1004
01:00:21,300 --> 01:00:24,600
to start is you know what's
going on?

1005
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:28,000
And now it's like you feel like
there's a bit more transparency

1006
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,300
in terms of.
Okay.

1007
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:32,200
These Guys, these early
enrollees are doing well and,

1008
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,000
you know, they have a real shot
and it's like you trust that

1009
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:39,100
word, you know.
So I think I like, based on

1010
01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:43,400
Flint a I thought that Jade pay
you was going to be all-acc for

1011
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,500
the last few years.
I think we all did that we have

1012
01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:51,500
that 145 yard reception from the
bowl game to look at all summer.

1013
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:58,300
So yeah, let's build on that.
Let's get one 45 yard, reception

1014
01:00:58,300 --> 01:00:59,300
/.
A game.

1015
01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:02,300
He just does one 45, yard
reception per game.

1016
01:01:02,300 --> 01:01:05,300
Next year, I think it'll open up
the entire file.

1017
01:01:07,300 --> 01:01:10,300
All right, matej is going to
hang out with us, guys.

1018
01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:12,800
We got some more things we want
to hit before we close up shop

1019
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,300
tonight.
But before we get to those, we

1020
01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:19,100
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01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:49,200
Now back to the episode All
right, got a few more topics.

1030
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,700
We want to hit tonight and a few
more things.

1031
01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:56,600
It, but we will start with this
is completely away from football

1032
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:01,100
field and onto the Hoops.
Court, Elizabeth Kitt, Lee wins.

1033
01:02:01,100 --> 01:02:04,800
ACC Player of the Year,
obviously, Virginia Tech women

1034
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,800
tube, having one of their best
seasons ever.

1035
01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:13,200
It was just really cool to see.
a Virginia Tech player when that

1036
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:18,300
Player of the Year, guys, Yeah,
seeing that.

1037
01:02:18,300 --> 01:02:21,100
And seeing what came out?
Look, what earlier today.

1038
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:23,400
What?
Second-team All-American for

1039
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:24,800
her.
Oh wow.

1040
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,900
Yeah, yeah.
So we're accolades keep coming

1041
01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:31,900
out.
So seeing that program kind of

1042
01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:36,100
take the, the steps towards
building on something big and

1043
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:40,000
they got a really chance
hopefully that you know they can

1044
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,900
stay healthy throughout the the
NCAA tournament and maybe make a

1045
01:02:42,908 --> 01:02:46,100
run here but you know, gut it
out.

1046
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,400
Out that Victory after kitley
went down.

1047
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:53,800
That was, that was really big.
And just I think all around

1048
01:02:53,900 --> 01:02:57,000
nothing to say, but good things
about the way, this team is kind

1049
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,200
of fought and clawed through
this year and and really made

1050
01:03:00,700 --> 01:03:07,000
made the fans in the school.
Proud to have specially how like

1051
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,300
engaged all the fans have been
like I feel like it's almost

1052
01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:14,300
like a Renaissance in terms of
the women's basketball program

1053
01:03:14,300 --> 01:03:16,100
that you saw in the final home
game.

1054
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,400
Everyone come out, you know,
truly a sight to behold and, you

1055
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,000
know, fans are coming out
because of the success of the

1056
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,000
program.
So like you said, only nothing

1057
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,300
but good things to say about
that program.

1058
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:36,000
Yeah and I tell you I think the
Hokies looked up to that the

1059
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,100
women's tournament is
essentially two weeks before the

1060
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:42,400
big tournament with kitley
getting hurt and act.

1061
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,100
It doesn't count remember the
other girl the other starting to

1062
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:47,300
get hurt.
Because now essentially what

1063
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:52,500
they've got right at foot 16
days to get healthy, actually

1064
01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:56,900
more than 16 days to get healthy
for the tournament run.

1065
01:03:56,900 --> 01:03:58,900
We've already seen the team
multiple times.

1066
01:03:58,900 --> 01:04:01,800
Take NC State, one of the best
teams in the country to the

1067
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,000
Limit.
Have some big wins this year so

1068
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:12,200
I mean it can happen but just
seeing them have the success

1069
01:04:12,500 --> 01:04:14,400
clearly helps.
And like you said, seeing the

1070
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,500
support throughout the year.
For the program is awesome.

1071
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:21,700
All right, Braun.
One of your favorite events of

1072
01:04:21,700 --> 01:04:25,600
the Year.
Bride loves the combine and you

1073
01:04:25,607 --> 01:04:30,400
don't like, without whilst it
will sit and eat his breakfast.

1074
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:36,800
Watching the in this year, I
mean, the Hokies even a 6 and 16

1075
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:40,800
since six guys to the combine
you know, let's see the Smith

1076
01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:42,600
James Mitchell.
They're obviously for the

1077
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,600
interviews and to get weighed
and measured Trey Turner

1078
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:51,200
Jermaine Waller, Luke tenuto But
we're either of you watching

1079
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:57,600
live when I'm Mari bar.
No ran, I was eating breakfast.

1080
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:03,100
I was watching live and right
out the gate.

1081
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:07,500
I think it was the first 40 of
the defensive line group if I

1082
01:05:07,500 --> 01:05:10,900
recall correctly, and he just
goes out there and bust it out

1083
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:18,700
for 37 was The Unofficial, 436,
the official, I think the best

1084
01:05:18,700 --> 01:05:22,600
part about it, as you go down
the list of like, and by the

1085
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,300
way, there are some fast people
at the combine this year.

1086
01:05:26,300 --> 01:05:30,600
Like they're, I've never seen as
many sub four fours as this

1087
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:35,100
year, but when you look at the
big list of everyone that ran

1088
01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:38,300
and then you're looking and
you're seeing running back wide

1089
01:05:38,300 --> 01:05:41,400
receiver wide receiver and then
all of a sudden you know safety

1090
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,900
defensive back and then you see
Edge, you see the 250-pound

1091
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:49,600
edge, right?
For 36.

1092
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:54,300
I mean it's unbelievable.
I mean that's I know that you

1093
01:05:54,300 --> 01:05:56,900
know it's just a Ford you're
running an underwear whatever

1094
01:05:56,900 --> 01:06:00,100
you want to say about it but
like get that is done nothing

1095
01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:03,700
but Skyrocket his stock ahead of
the drafts.

1096
01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:08,200
Oh well yeah we were talking
earlier we were like alright

1097
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:13,100
well you know some some and
mocked him kind of a late-day to

1098
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,100
before the combine Summit had a
mentor lead.

1099
01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:20,100
A three I think he probably
improved his stock by bat around

1100
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:23,700
and a half depending on wherever
you had him mock before 100%.

1101
01:06:23,700 --> 01:06:27,600
So he might be, you know,
mid-second rounders probably the

1102
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:33,700
high-end probably late fourth.
Probably is the back end of

1103
01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:34,800
that.
Yeah.

1104
01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:38,200
But the other piece too is now
you know people are looking at

1105
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,700
the stats and say well he didn't
have any sex after the UNC game

1106
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,300
but there are some plays out
there.

1107
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,700
You know, he does need refining
on the edge now.

1108
01:06:48,700 --> 01:06:52,600
Also, I think this year after
what he had done the previous

1109
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,900
year, the eyes were on him, the
defense shifted to his side.

1110
01:06:56,900 --> 01:07:01,300
He got chipped but ran out of
him or they did run at him.

1111
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:06,300
But the one thing that his that
that's going to flash on tape

1112
01:07:06,900 --> 01:07:10,400
after seeing that 40 his
Pursuit, his backside Pursuits

1113
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,300
and downfield, Pursuits.
I know it didn't take long after

1114
01:07:13,300 --> 01:07:17,600
that 436 as I had a buddy I was
out I think getting our

1115
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:19,900
cul-de-sac you know everybody
playing having funds as a

1116
01:07:19,908 --> 01:07:24,300
beautiful weekend here in my guy
texted me and I'm like yep

1117
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:30,200
that's what he does and he found
a picture of that UNC game where

1118
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:33,500
he went from the 35.
To the 40 and he's getting

1119
01:07:33,500 --> 01:07:37,000
blocked and gets off the block
takes off down field and makes

1120
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:41,300
the tackle that's motor that's
effort and that's unbelievable

1121
01:07:41,300 --> 01:07:46,600
speed from a guy of that size
that essentially defensive

1122
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,000
coordinators who are looking at
and probably pushing their

1123
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,600
scouting department and their GM
to say, Hey listen.

1124
01:07:52,900 --> 01:07:54,700
Yeah, we can work on his Edge
moves.

1125
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:56,900
That's what we're here for.
That's what we do every day.

1126
01:07:56,900 --> 01:08:01,800
We teach these guys but that
effort in getting from here to

1127
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,100
there to stop a potential
touchdown.

1128
01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:06,700
There's not many guys that can
do that.

1129
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,300
And another thing he does well
that doesn't get talked about is

1130
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:12,900
that he's a pretty sure tackler.
So he may not you may not be the

1131
01:08:12,900 --> 01:08:15,800
best at the point of contact.
If he's getting either

1132
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:20,399
double-teamed or having to
having the shed or having to

1133
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,600
work a move that started Edge
Rush.

1134
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:26,399
But when he gets his arms to
you, he's going to get you down

1135
01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:30,700
those times and you couple that
with his Pursuit and just

1136
01:08:30,700 --> 01:08:34,000
overall athleticism.
If they can find a system that

1137
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:38,200
kind of either uses an outside
backer in space, a lot or to

1138
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:45,200
rush the passer or a 34 system
that's going to use him as a as

1139
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,600
an outside linebacker that's
going to be a really good fit

1140
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,200
for him and should be able to
take advantage of the the tools

1141
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,500
that he Has especially if he's
able to put another five or ten

1142
01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:58,700
pounds of weight on his body.
Yeah, that's what I was just

1143
01:08:58,700 --> 01:09:02,300
about to say that.
There's a lot of 34 schemes out

1144
01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:05,300
in the NFL and I think he would
fit seamlessly into that.

1145
01:09:05,300 --> 01:09:10,200
And, you know, I'm a Packers fan
admittedly and, you know, I

1146
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,500
think I think there's there is,
you know, I'm a big Preston

1147
01:09:14,500 --> 01:09:18,399
Smith fan and I could see
similarities between the two.

1148
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:22,800
I think obviously bar knows a
lot more athletic but I You

1149
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,800
know, if you get them in the
right system and you know the

1150
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,800
bulks up a bit, you know is his
mind matches his moves.

1151
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:31,800
I mean the sky's the limit for
him.

1152
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:36,399
I mean he's one of the most
athletic guys that you know and

1153
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:40,100
he's really an affair.
Any NFL GM's dream really to

1154
01:09:40,100 --> 01:09:42,200
have if you can mold them into
something.

1155
01:09:42,899 --> 01:09:47,700
If you've got a year where you
can just use him sparingly or

1156
01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:51,200
try to hide it as much as you
can to where he can kind of come

1157
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:56,400
along, With that NFL coaching
and with that you fully immersed

1158
01:09:56,700 --> 01:09:59,000
Pro experience.
I think that that's going to be

1159
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:03,700
good for him because he really
has all the tools and traits

1160
01:10:03,700 --> 01:10:06,900
that could really make a really
good NFL player.

1161
01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:11,000
Especially like we said in those
systems that take advantage of

1162
01:10:11,300 --> 01:10:14,300
those longer athletic guys,
either on the outside,

1163
01:10:14,300 --> 01:10:20,900
linebacker in a 3-4 or that kind
of 43 system where they use that

1164
01:10:20,900 --> 01:10:23,700
backer as a as a kind of a We're
rusher a lot.

1165
01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:26,800
Yeah, well we were talking
earlier, you talked about the

1166
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,400
Packers system, I'm a Niners
fan.

1167
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,100
He's a Colts fan.
Essentially, we're rowing a

1168
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:35,500
covered three with wide Nines in
a guy like him is like it's like

1169
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:38,400
get him out on the 9, aim at the
quarterback and just run as fast

1170
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,500
as you can.
So he fits a few places one

1171
01:10:41,500 --> 01:10:46,900
other guy, I think, let's see
the Smith solid combine outing.

1172
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:51,300
He ranked top 10 in a few things
I think he's probably I think

1173
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:52,500
we'll see.
This is going to go in the first

1174
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,200
in the second day.
I think I think you definitely

1175
01:10:56,200 --> 01:11:00,300
improved his stock from where he
was, he wasn't the big jump that

1176
01:11:00,300 --> 01:11:03,900
we saw from bar know just being
you know, but that type of

1177
01:11:03,900 --> 01:11:09,700
physical specimen out there in a
scenario where being a physical

1178
01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:12,800
specimen really good.
You know, earns you the the

1179
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:17,400
Kudos there but I think he's
solidified, everything that was

1180
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,500
being talked about him ahead of
the combine and sometimes

1181
01:11:20,900 --> 01:11:25,300
showing up and not not hurting
your This can help your case.

1182
01:11:27,900 --> 01:11:30,400
And I hope for all the other
guys to that, you know, left

1183
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,300
early, I wish them nothing but
the best.

1184
01:11:33,300 --> 01:11:37,900
I hope they get drafted lands on
teams and continue to do great

1185
01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:40,100
thing elsewhere.
All right.

1186
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:44,300
We've seen Trey, what mock would
you say you saw him with fourth

1187
01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:46,800
or fifth like fourth and fifth
Summit?

1188
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:51,700
Six, you know, I think what's
going to help tray is believe it

1189
01:11:51,700 --> 01:11:53,000
or not.
This is my opinion.

1190
01:11:53,500 --> 01:11:57,200
And you y'all can say, if I'm
right or wrong, I think some of

1191
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:58,800
the stuff.
If they did with tray on the

1192
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,900
Jet, Sweep is going to help us
stop.

1193
01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:05,100
The NFL is getting a lot more
line of scrimmage tight passes.

1194
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:08,900
They're looking for guys to get
the ball in their hands to make

1195
01:12:08,900 --> 01:12:12,700
moves like that.
And that's something he

1196
01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:20,100
definitely can do but you know
it's so weird.

1197
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:23,500
We see it every year you see
like guys you expect to get

1198
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:25,700
drafted in the first three
rounds and next thing you know,

1199
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,700
your team in the sixth round And
is trapped in him and you're

1200
01:12:28,700 --> 01:12:32,800
like we just stole the guy and
you're like super Jack for it.

1201
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,500
All right, I want to go to this
next because this is something

1202
01:12:37,500 --> 01:12:41,100
we want to bring you in on
really deep because I think it I

1203
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:43,000
think this is going to affect
the recruiting game when it

1204
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,700
happens.
So you know it's been a little

1205
01:12:45,700 --> 01:12:48,500
over a month now.
But college football, playoff

1206
01:12:48,500 --> 01:12:51,500
basically says they're staying
at for until 2025.

1207
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,900
And we're in the mindset, it
needs to get bigger.

1208
01:12:55,900 --> 01:13:00,400
We want to go to 12.
Is my question for you, okay?

1209
01:13:02,300 --> 01:13:07,100
How much of an impact do you
think when it goes to 12?

1210
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,600
Will it have on recruiting?
And when I say that right now,

1211
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,400
we feel like the biggest
recruiting.

1212
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,400
It's Georgia.
It's Clemson, it's Alabama, it's

1213
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:23,200
Ohio State, it's Oklahoma.
And it's like, LSU, essentially

1214
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:27,500
eight teams seen again, it's six
to eight teams in a given Year.

1215
01:13:27,500 --> 01:13:31,800
Have a chance of making the
playoffs is that by default

1216
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,100
helping them on the recruiting
Trail.

1217
01:13:35,100 --> 01:13:40,300
And by extension, if you add
more Players or teams to the

1218
01:13:40,300 --> 01:13:42,200
playoff?
Will that have a trickle-down

1219
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,900
effect on the recruiting front?
We're now and you got 18 to 20

1220
01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:49,000
teams competing for 12 spots
instead of six to eight

1221
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,200
competing for, for, you know, I
would definitely hope so.

1222
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,900
And I think, when you look at,
you know, some of the top

1223
01:13:54,900 --> 01:13:58,100
programs that at least in the
college football, playoff era,

1224
01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:01,200
it's almost like an arms race
that not only, are you making so

1225
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:04,100
much money because you're in
those big games but you're

1226
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:06,200
getting more of your fans
engaged.

1227
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,600
I mean there are recruits There
that only want to play for teams

1228
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,300
that are contending for the
national championship.

1229
01:14:12,500 --> 01:14:15,200
So if you're expanding that
field, all of a sudden you're

1230
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:19,100
pulling in new guys and I think
it's definitely beneficial.

1231
01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:22,100
I think for any fan that's kind
of getting tired of, you know,

1232
01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:25,600
this monotonous fourteen.
Playoff that's always seems to

1233
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:31,400
be Bama Clemson, Ohio State, and
you know, insert a fourth team

1234
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,400
that doesn't have a chance.
But yeah, I think it will

1235
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,600
definitely be beneficial and
specifically.

1236
01:14:37,700 --> 01:14:40,500
Only when you expand it and
you're looking at some of the

1237
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:43,500
teams that have a realistic shot
to make it.

1238
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:47,400
I mean, Virginia Tech, North
Carolina, Miami are screaming at

1239
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,100
you.
I mean, you're in one of, you

1240
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:54,500
know, one of the most unstable
divisions within the power, 5

1241
01:14:54,500 --> 01:14:57,700
with the ability to make an ACC
Championship game.

1242
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,200
And, you know, if you're up to
12 teams, who's to say that the

1243
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,400
loser of the ACC Championship
game doesn't make it, you know,

1244
01:15:04,900 --> 01:15:07,600
depending on what your record
is, and everything that comes

1245
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,600
That, you know, you're one of
the most of, you know, all the

1246
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,400
five games, the power five
games, you're one of the most

1247
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:18,600
competitive teams so it would
definitely improve teams like

1248
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,300
that.
And not only that, but it would

1249
01:15:21,300 --> 01:15:23,900
bring more fans into it.
You're not just tuning out once

1250
01:15:23,900 --> 01:15:27,200
your team loses two games, you
know, there's a realistic chance

1251
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:30,100
and I think, you know, that
would kind of spread the wealth

1252
01:15:30,100 --> 01:15:32,200
a little bit.
I still think, you know, some of

1253
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:36,200
the top teams I think am is
another sleeper that just a

1254
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,000
giant Texas.
Isis as well.

1255
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:43,100
But you know the the Blue
Bloods, the rich Schools.

1256
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:47,900
They're going to stay rich but
there will be some some wealth

1257
01:15:47,900 --> 01:15:50,800
spreading going on, if they
expend the playoffs and I think

1258
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:53,900
that's what everyone wants.
Even even if you're the 12th

1259
01:15:53,900 --> 01:15:57,100
team and you know there's no
shot at winning the whole thing,

1260
01:15:57,100 --> 01:16:00,000
but you just made it.
I mean, that's already going to

1261
01:16:00,008 --> 01:16:02,200
improve your stock tremendously.
Yeah.

1262
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:05,000
So you know, I'm very much in
favor for that.

1263
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,500
I don't know what that looks
like in terms of the Everything

1264
01:16:08,700 --> 01:16:12,200
and the buys and whatnot but I
think that would make that would

1265
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,400
that would just be so much fun
for college football.

1266
01:16:14,700 --> 01:16:17,900
Yeah we've talked about it.
We said you know if you're a 12

1267
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:22,100
seed in a 12 team playoff you
know whatever game you play your

1268
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:25,000
first game is going to be a
higher profile game.

1269
01:16:25,300 --> 01:16:28,900
Then whatever non-playoff New
Year's six bowl, you could be

1270
01:16:28,900 --> 01:16:30,900
going to right now in the
current format.

1271
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,800
Yep.
So it's only going to benefit

1272
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,600
those type of teams that are
just outside of that.

1273
01:16:37,700 --> 01:16:43,100
At that current format and how
that exposure looks and how

1274
01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:45,800
that, you know, ultimately
impacts on the recruiting Trail.

1275
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:50,500
I think can be speculated, but I
think there will be some impact

1276
01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:54,000
how much of an impact is
probably where, where we kind of

1277
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:59,200
have to wait and see, and, I
mean, obviously, this is nice

1278
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,200
money.
Grab for all the other people

1279
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:05,800
that are counting coins in this
whole thing because the more

1280
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,200
games you play, the more money,
you're going to make Especially

1281
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:12,400
when those games matter more
towards the end of the year.

1282
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,800
Whereas, right now you've only
got the three big ones and, you

1283
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,700
know, that's kind of devalued in
a lot of ways.

1284
01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:23,400
Some of those other New Year's
six bowls that before.

1285
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,900
We're had a little bit more
Prestige to them.

1286
01:17:27,500 --> 01:17:31,100
Yep, but something you mentioned
Brian you mentioned like the 12

1287
01:17:31,100 --> 01:17:34,000
seed.
Getting in if you're 12 seed and

1288
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:37,900
you get in Intimate a Point.
Virginia Tech goes 11.

1289
01:17:37,900 --> 01:17:42,100
And 1 goes to the ACC title game
loses to Clemson and a thriller

1290
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:45,400
circuit 2016.
They get the toilet seat and

1291
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:50,600
they play a, you know, number
five LSU, they lose, you know,

1292
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,000
35.
Twenty-seven, whatever.

1293
01:17:55,900 --> 01:17:58,900
The extra money from that game
in general because, you know,

1294
01:17:58,900 --> 01:18:02,100
there's money coming down.
But then to get able to get on

1295
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:06,900
the trail and go to some four or
five, start kid and say we're

1296
01:18:06,900 --> 01:18:11,700
getting there, we need you we
get more players like you.

1297
01:18:11,700 --> 01:18:13,400
We're not going to be 12 sees
any more.

1298
01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:14,900
We're going to be in the top
four.

1299
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,000
We're going to win a National
Title in the thing is right now

1300
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,400
because Brian like you said
there's four to eight schools.

1301
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:25,400
That can say that every year
unfortunately Virginia.

1302
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:30,600
Tech can't say that as most
hundred twenty schools can, but

1303
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,300
if you open up that gate and you
get to 12, and then, the next

1304
01:18:33,300 --> 01:18:35,700
year, you win the ACC in your
six.

1305
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:39,500
And then the next year you go.
The next thing, you know, you

1306
01:18:39,500 --> 01:18:43,400
can probably, you know, say this
just from your job watching

1307
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,500
these boards.
Lot easier to sell a program

1308
01:18:46,500 --> 01:18:49,400
that's winning and getting to
the chance, right?

1309
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,300
100%, I think just the chance is
so huge right?

1310
01:18:55,300 --> 01:18:57,800
That changes everything.
And I think, you know, a lot of

1311
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,500
the recruiting pitches have
been, okay.

1312
01:18:59,500 --> 01:19:00,800
We're going to win
championships.

1313
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,600
Well, what championships, you
know, the ACC Championship the

1314
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,200
coastal Championship, the
Commonwealth cop, like what is

1315
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,200
the championship that this
program is striving for?

1316
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:15,300
And I think, you know it's a bit
lazy to say, okay, just expand

1317
01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:19,200
it so that everyone comes in but
it's it's 12 Premier teams.

1318
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,400
You know what I mean?
So, So 10%, it's the exactly

1319
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:25,700
10%.
Exactly.

1320
01:19:25,700 --> 01:19:28,700
So I think it does nothing, but
help, I think there still is

1321
01:19:28,700 --> 01:19:31,100
going to be a little bit of
disparity that's going to take,

1322
01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:34,500
you know, at least a decade or
maybe even more to kind of

1323
01:19:34,500 --> 01:19:37,900
bridge that Gap.
But but, you know, you have to

1324
01:19:37,900 --> 01:19:41,300
start somewhere because the way
things are going, you know, the

1325
01:19:41,300 --> 01:19:44,400
rich get richer and everyone
else is just trying to keep up.

1326
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,900
So, you know, there has to be a
method to kind of evening the

1327
01:19:48,900 --> 01:19:51,000
playing field or just giving ask
Cool.

1328
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,400
A chance.
You know whether it's one in

1329
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,800
every four years that they make
it in or once in a blue moon,

1330
01:19:58,100 --> 01:20:01,800
you know, it's going to totally
reinvigorate college football

1331
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:03,400
which I think is getting a
little stale.

1332
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,000
Yeah, especially the postseason
in particular.

1333
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,100
Yeah, you know I think the
regular season is is good but I

1334
01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:18,300
don't think a 12 team playoff
devalues the regular season at

1335
01:20:18,300 --> 01:20:21,700
all.
Oh of course know what my face

1336
01:20:21,700 --> 01:20:27,900
it you if you lose two games.
Now, if you're two and two after

1337
01:20:27,900 --> 01:20:32,500
September, well, National
Championship gone, where

1338
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,000
depending on the two games, you
lose a lot of times.

1339
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,400
It's Well shit.
Now the now a chance to go to a

1340
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:44,700
new year. 6 volt has gone after
two losses in.

1341
01:20:44,900 --> 01:20:46,400
That's what makes the regular
season.

1342
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:49,400
So much fun is seeing the team's
fall.

1343
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:56,200
But if you're saying If you're
saying like, we're going to get

1344
01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:02,400
to November. and when they do
that cfp ranking, which I think

1345
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:06,200
they still will have If you're
sitting at like 20, you're

1346
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:10,200
sitting like we can do this.
If we can win out beat our

1347
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:15,500
rival, get into a cup, we can
get in And that's what you want.

1348
01:21:15,500 --> 01:21:21,100
Hope. if you have hope, if you
have 20 teams have an open

1349
01:21:21,100 --> 01:21:26,400
November, Money for everybody
and also having these Auto bids.

1350
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,200
I mean you occasionally have
those upsets in those conference

1351
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,500
championships those upsets now
matter.

1352
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:34,500
Yes they do like before it
didn't matter.

1353
01:21:34,500 --> 01:21:38,300
You know, if if you had lost
three games and then you like

1354
01:21:38,300 --> 01:21:40,500
George a few years back, you
know, they had like two or three

1355
01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:44,500
losses and, you know, might go
and be tab a more be to Auburn

1356
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:49,000
in the SEC Championship game.
You know all of a sudden that

1357
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:53,300
matters now now we lost him
again anyway yeah yeah.

1358
01:21:53,300 --> 01:21:56,200
So a game like that now matters
because if they win that

1359
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,700
conference Championship game,
they're getting an automatic bid

1360
01:21:58,700 --> 01:22:01,300
into the playoff.
Now that team that was either

1361
01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:04,900
undefeated or one loss, they're
still getting that at-large bid

1362
01:22:05,100 --> 01:22:08,900
and then we can debate how we
want to Rach Rach.

1363
01:22:08,900 --> 01:22:12,600
The rank the teams in the
playoff later.

1364
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:15,500
That's something that is
probably a discussion that you

1365
01:22:15,500 --> 01:22:17,300
know other people are having
right now in terms.

1366
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:20,500
Whether you know your conference
winners, get the the higher

1367
01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:25,900
seeds or whether it's based on
you know some sort of ranking

1368
01:22:25,900 --> 01:22:29,700
from a committee or whatever,
but you're going to

1369
01:22:29,700 --> 01:22:31,700
automatically get in.
If you win that power five

1370
01:22:31,700 --> 01:22:33,000
conference and that's a big
thing.

1371
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,900
And then most of the models that
we're seeing, you know, one of

1372
01:22:36,900 --> 01:22:41,400
those high rank G5 programs is
getting in as well, so that can

1373
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:45,300
shake things up a little bit.
And at least bring probably a

1374
01:22:45,300 --> 01:22:48,900
degree of do blood in every year
and And keep some of those,

1375
01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:53,500
those G5 conferences in the
discussion, you know,

1376
01:22:53,500 --> 01:22:56,500
Cincinnati's really, you know,
made some noise of late.

1377
01:22:56,500 --> 01:23:01,500
We had UCF a few years back that
had a good squad that didn't

1378
01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:02,800
quite get it done at the end
there.

1379
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:06,600
But yeah, I think that's only
going to help them as well,

1380
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:10,200
because they now get a seat at
the big table, not just at the

1381
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,000
okay, when you get to play in a
pretty good Bowl table, right?

1382
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,000
I think if you can keep the
regular season, the way it is,

1383
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:20,800
and I just hope that If you're,
if you're kind of diluting the

1384
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,300
playoff process, that it
wouldn't take too much away.

1385
01:23:23,300 --> 01:23:28,100
And I know like I agree with
Curtis like giving hope is so

1386
01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:32,600
important to every fan base,
like, I hope like there's

1387
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,300
something so special about
knowing that it's like like

1388
01:23:36,300 --> 01:23:40,200
every weekend matters in college
football every single weekend

1389
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,300
matters and I hope that isn't
lost.

1390
01:23:42,300 --> 01:23:45,400
If you're like we're all into
like we still have a chance, you

1391
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:46,600
know, like you should be
panicking.

1392
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:51,500
But But if you can get the
regular season, how it is now,

1393
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,600
steaks are still high as ever.
You know, it's only 12 teams,

1394
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,700
ten percent.
I just I agree with with the

1395
01:23:58,700 --> 01:24:02,100
both of you that it's like the
postseason is getting stale, you

1396
01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:04,900
need to spice it up somehow.
If you can put more stakes in

1397
01:24:04,900 --> 01:24:08,600
there, see some upsets you know,
something new.

1398
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,800
I think it only improves the
product of college football.

1399
01:24:13,500 --> 01:24:14,300
Yeah.
Because I mean, you're still,

1400
01:24:14,300 --> 01:24:17,100
you're still playing for your
conference Championship game

1401
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:19,600
ever.
You're so like I said, I don't

1402
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:23,000
think the regular season game is
is going to really get impacted

1403
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,000
because more than likely, if
you're a power 5 team, you want

1404
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,200
one of those at large has or the
automatic qualifier.

1405
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:29,700
You're going to need to be
playing in your conference

1406
01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:32,900
Championship game and you're
going to be the been again, that

1407
01:24:32,900 --> 01:24:35,400
matters more now because the
winner of that gets that

1408
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:39,300
automatic bid, right?
By the way, you talk about the

1409
01:24:39,300 --> 01:24:43,300
Owen to team, that would be the
best fan base to watch.

1410
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,800
They start owing to like real
got it, I can do this.

1411
01:24:47,900 --> 01:24:55,700
Gotta win 11 and got out of it.
Speaking of fire, I tell you,

1412
01:24:55,700 --> 01:24:58,300
you mentioned it earlier the
money, they drained into the

1413
01:24:58,300 --> 01:25:01,600
support staff.
I mean, you've had, you know,

1414
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:05,100
couple higher since we last
talked run, the op staff has

1415
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:07,300
gotten bigger.
Travis Taylor taken over

1416
01:25:07,300 --> 01:25:11,400
director colleges in ski
assistant in Jake shell option

1417
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:15,000
analytics along with higher and
more analyst, Jeff Carpenter,

1418
01:25:15,500 --> 01:25:21,800
and karrie Webb Prime just say
it, you say it all the time, we

1419
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:26,900
have went from Mom and Kyle
longer, a mom and pop operation,

1420
01:25:26,900 --> 01:25:29,800
we're running things.
Like we've gotta got a business

1421
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,100
plan and a hierarchy and we knew
who reports to who and who's

1422
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:37,600
doing, what and we don't have
one or two guys in the

1423
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,000
recruiting department in
operations Department that are

1424
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,800
wearing like four or five
different hats anymore, People

1425
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,900
have jobs and they take care of
the business now.

1426
01:25:46,900 --> 01:25:50,200
And it seems like that, that's
what we've been missing in the

1427
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:53,000
off the field apartment.
So I'm it's nice to see them.

1428
01:25:53,300 --> 01:25:57,000
Put the money into a number one,
to get it done.

1429
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,600
But also to get these hires in
there and have a organizational

1430
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,600
structure, that makes sense.
Yeah, absolutely.

1431
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,900
And I remember, you know, back
when I was on campus and going

1432
01:26:06,900 --> 01:26:09,900
to the press conferences, I
would stop by the recruiting

1433
01:26:09,900 --> 01:26:12,900
department and I would see four
guys sitting in chairs in this.

1434
01:26:13,100 --> 01:26:16,900
Massive room, just doing all the
work for the class and I'm

1435
01:26:16,900 --> 01:26:20,200
sitting there, like, have you
guys slept, like, I see like

1436
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,200
four cups of coffee on
everyone's desk and you're

1437
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:24,800
wondering how things are getting
done.

1438
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:28,100
And you not only have that
within recruiting, but just Hops

1439
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:30,200
and general guys to bounce
ideas.

1440
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:33,500
Off of you now have analytics
guys that can tell you whether

1441
01:26:33,500 --> 01:26:36,800
to go for it on fourth down or
not, you know, down to like the

1442
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,000
very specific minutiae of
everything.

1443
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:44,800
So it does nothing.
But Open, you know, this is this

1444
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,300
is long-awaited and I'm so
excited for for everyone.

1445
01:26:48,300 --> 01:26:50,300
It just makes everyone's life
easier.

1446
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,100
And ultimately that's what you
need.

1447
01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:55,600
If you want to be a program of a
very high stature, you need to

1448
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:59,300
have like all everything
accounted for and it seems like

1449
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:03,400
they have that right now.
Do these analytics help with

1450
01:27:03,500 --> 01:27:06,500
whether or not to call timeouts
for 54-yard field goals.

1451
01:27:06,500 --> 01:27:09,500
Yes.
And in state opponent.

1452
01:27:09,900 --> 01:27:11,400
Let's hope that doesn't happen
again.

1453
01:27:11,900 --> 01:27:17,500
Never Well, you know, something
else, cool, though, in thing

1454
01:27:17,500 --> 01:27:20,600
about like, this is already
happening and to me, it's

1455
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,200
telling you that Brent price
hiring and keeping quality,

1456
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,400
guys.
You know, Keyshawn Jarrett was

1457
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,700
going to go to a g, a position
essentially wanted to coach.

1458
01:27:29,100 --> 01:27:32,500
He stayed there all of two weeks
and he got hired by Howard, you

1459
01:27:32,500 --> 01:27:35,600
know, that's the S, which is
awesome for him and then the

1460
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,100
same with dyrell Roberts, dyrell
Roberts and an FCS who comes to

1461
01:27:39,100 --> 01:27:42,800
an analyst job and within what
20 days.

1462
01:27:43,100 --> 01:27:45,400
He's at a G5 job of at Eastern
Michigan.

1463
01:27:46,100 --> 01:27:50,200
That tells you a lot about to
about what the staff is looking

1464
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:51,900
like that.
It didn't take long for these

1465
01:27:51,900 --> 01:27:54,900
two guys to already be moving
on, which is great.

1466
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:58,900
Yeah, and I think, you know,
with this price staff I think he

1467
01:27:58,900 --> 01:28:02,900
has a lot of connections and
because he's bringing in so many

1468
01:28:02,900 --> 01:28:05,600
people and I know a lot of
people have Penn State

1469
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:07,900
backgrounds, but you know,
everyone talks.

1470
01:28:07,900 --> 01:28:10,100
Everyone knows each other and
that's kind of the culture at

1471
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:12,400
Penn State that you build up
this large staff.

1472
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,800
And like Penn State, there's
gonna be people that move on.

1473
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:19,700
There's going to be people that
turn over but they're always

1474
01:28:19,700 --> 01:28:22,400
looking for Quality to replace
them and I think that's kind of

1475
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:26,500
going to be a constant at least
with the support staff, you

1476
01:28:26,500 --> 01:28:28,300
know.
I know a lot of guys are under

1477
01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:31,700
contract for multiple years and
will stay a long time.

1478
01:28:31,700 --> 01:28:34,600
But, you know, they're always
going to find people to fill the

1479
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:38,700
holes and I think they have a
really good Network in terms of

1480
01:28:38,700 --> 01:28:42,600
what they're looking for and
it's no surprise the people.

1481
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:46,100
They're Getting are wanted by
other people and that's the

1482
01:28:46,100 --> 01:28:48,400
telling sign that you're hiring
the right person.

1483
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:52,500
If a lot of people want them,
It's the truth.

1484
01:28:52,700 --> 01:28:55,200
I mean, there's no more to say
that is the true that people

1485
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,800
want people on your staff is the
best thing.

1486
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:01,500
Again, I'm going to the NFL, the
Niners are losing everybody.

1487
01:29:01,500 --> 01:29:05,600
I love it because it tells you
that they're wanted and it tells

1488
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,400
you that they know how to
interview it tells you to know

1489
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:12,400
what they're doing.
And usually when you have in

1490
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:16,000
these cases you're going to have
guys go, you're probably going

1491
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:20,800
to have some good replacements
come to it's like you know, This

1492
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,300
guy went from here to there, I
want to do that.

1493
01:29:23,300 --> 01:29:25,700
I'm going there because I know
he's going to prep me for.

1494
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:30,600
Absolutely, when you present
that, you create opportunities

1495
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,700
for other people, that's going
to be attractive to other hires

1496
01:29:33,700 --> 01:29:35,300
that are looking to do that same
thing.

1497
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,300
Thousand percent.
All right, matej.

1498
01:29:39,300 --> 01:29:42,100
Again, we really appreciate you
joining us tonight.

1499
01:29:42,100 --> 01:29:45,100
We're going 90 minutes now.
It has been awesome.

1500
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:48,400
Just we just feel like we're
just talking to a fellow hokey.

1501
01:29:49,000 --> 01:29:51,500
You know what?
You are into friend.

1502
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:58,900
Don't forget, guys check him
out, VT scoop for 24/7.com his

1503
01:29:58,900 --> 01:30:02,100
articles, you know, anything
dropped them soon.

1504
01:30:02,700 --> 01:30:07,800
We should have a Blacksburg big.
Word coming out soon, which kind

1505
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,000
of detailed it's for our VIP
subscribers, I should mention,

1506
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:15,100
but it will detail exactly what
the staff is looking for within

1507
01:30:15,100 --> 01:30:19,900
this recruiting class.
I would just say stay posted to

1508
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,700
VT scoop because we should have
some good news in the next 10

1509
01:30:23,700 --> 01:30:27,300
days.
So, yeah, keep an eye out on

1510
01:30:27,300 --> 01:30:32,800
that.
Oh, he teased it well to taste

1511
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,600
well together.
All right.

1512
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,200
Next two, Today's we're going to
all Mark our calendars for that.

1513
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,100
And again would say we really
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1514
01:30:43,100 --> 01:30:46,300
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1515
01:30:46,300 --> 01:30:48,600
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1516
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,100
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1531
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,400
So maybe he could pay for his
wife won't kill him because I

1532
01:31:42,407 --> 01:31:44,400
think he had to tell her the
total the other day.

1533
01:31:44,700 --> 01:31:47,000
Oh man he had to finally come
clean.

1534
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,200
I think he did sure the credit
card receipt.

1535
01:31:50,700 --> 01:31:52,700
Well, I'm sure she probably saw
that.

1536
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:54,900
At least he didn't buy the other
one.

1537
01:31:54,900 --> 01:31:59,000
He showed us because he had one
that was like almost 2000 and he

1538
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,600
really was almost going to buy
that.

1539
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:05,100
But he's a married man, he got
smarter so you know but we thank

1540
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:08,700
you all for listening. and as
always, let's go Hokies

Matej Sis

247 Sports Writer

Matej is a Writer for 247Sports.com's VTScoop. He joined the staff as a Sophomore while attending Virginia Tech and has worked there ever since. He primarily focuses on VT Football, but has coverage on VT Basketball as well. He also helps with recruiting coverage.

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