Season Primer: Part 2

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Hi, Sheldon.
Let's start us off on defense,

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big guy.
Yeah, I got dips in here, but

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just to kind of kick start the
defensive discussion, obviously

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last year we kind of alluded to
this, but you know, the defense

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had some good stats.
You look at average yards per

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game, points per game was all
pretty solid.

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They forced some turnovers, but
we talked about the issues with,

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you know, second-half late in
games that gave up almost 100

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points and third quarter of
games last season, including 43

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in the last five minutes of
games.

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And we saw it just, you know, we
we talked about, you know, how

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much of that was strength and
conditioning.

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Again, we can we can debate that
all day.

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But talk about the defense.
You know, Sam Sicus comes in

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first year coordinator.
We talked about what, what is

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most critical for the Stevens
unit this season between

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halftime adjustments and closing
games, talking about, you know,

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coaching, you know, S&C,
whatever it may be.

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What, what do you think is most
critical for the Stevens to kind

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of get rid of those those late
game woes that we kind of saw

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last season?
Again, we we know there's talent

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there, but how do they fully,
you know, implement that talent

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for for the entirety of a 60
minute game, which they just

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didn't do last season?
Go ahead, Dwight.

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Go ahead.
Hold on.

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Say that last part again.
My, my, my reception.

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No, no, seriously, I'm not.
What was the question?

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Because my thing.
Yeah, yeah.

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So, so we're just talking about
what what's what's critical

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between halftime adjustments on
defense and and closing out

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games?
What what's kind of the the

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secret formula Tech needs or or
a way they can improve from last

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season when it comes to being
being efficient in the

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second-half?
This is a great question.

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It is again another simple
solution with a simple answer

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you have for defense.
You have to adjust much quicker.

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I'm going to give you a great
example.

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In the Miami game they made,
that was probably Cam Cam Ward's

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worst game last season.
He had, I believe, two or three

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picks.
He had two, but two.

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He had, he had two, right?
He had the one that should have

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been a pick 6, but dude didn't
make it all the way to the end

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zone.
But in that game, I kept saying

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please put a spy on Cam Ward.
We didn't have a spy on him.

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So there was, you know, you knew
what it could do.

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Late in the game, they put Caleb
Woodson on him.

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He was spying.
I'm not going to put the inside

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information I know out there
because I know some players on

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the team and I, I look, the
truth of the matter is you have

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to we have to make quicker
adjustments on on defense.

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There was many times I'm going
to give you another one.

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This was a very, very bad
example of lack of adjustments

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and a very bad memory.
Rutgers ran the same fake.

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Hand off roll out.
The entire game and we never

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adjusted.
And you know what we paid for

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those sins because several games
throughout the season teams read

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that on critical situations.
I'm like, can we please for love

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of Blacksburg Hokeystone make an
adjustment?

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It is listen, everyone knows
y'all all laughing.

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It was that gun.
It was the clap snap, get it,

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fake it, roll out.
That is a nine you on Saturday

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morning Dumfries field play
where you see 9 year olds

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running that little.
I ran a flag football said like

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and you get it, you fake it, you
drag a guy and you and it was

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like again.
So Shelton, the bottom line is

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quicker adjustments.
Everybody talks about Oh my God,

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Bud was the goat.
Bud was the goat.

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Yes, he was, but I remember when
Tech beat North Carolina and

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North Carolina when Tyra was
there, big match up in ACC was,

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you know, back when there was
divisions, Tech went down there

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and won 26 to 13 or 2629 and 10,
something like that.

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And it sold out.
Crowd and mostly Tech fans and

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Bud Forrest after the game said
he credited Tory and Gray for

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the adjustments he made with
Eddie Whitley and the safety

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like so he knew Carolina gave
them a new wrinkle.

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Let let me take you back to last
season in six to eight of the

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post game pressers.
How many times did we hear they

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did some things we didn't see on
tape.

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Everyone does things we don't
see on tape, especially after we

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see.
On tape, that's everybody

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saying.
Again, raise your hand if you're

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watching this and you played or
you watched a game where the

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players were miked up.
I know this the first two

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series, you you're feeling
yourself.

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And the coach says, hey, hey,
hey, he grabs that board.

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Hey, what are you seeing out
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Tell me what they doing.
What are they doing out there?

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You know?
So when the hell did that

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happen?
Because to me, the tight end

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dragging Shelton, it was again
and you're going against a dual

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threat quarterback and you know
it was.

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It was a coordinator.
Dwight didn't even want to take

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direction from Bud Foster,
didn't even want to help from

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Bud Foster.
So you got a defensive

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coordinator that don't want to
get help from Bud Foster.

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You're not going to ask a player
what he sees.

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He just says I know what I'm
doing and everybody should be OK

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with what I'm doing.
That's why he gone.

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I mean, we got to get, I think
sometimes like coordinators can

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get in that we do, we do
mindset.

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And like, like you said, Dwight,
like adjustments are going to be

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the most important part of more
quickly adapting to what the

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game plan of the other team is.
Because we had a lot of a lot of

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times, like you, like you
pointed out, you Rutgers was a

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big one.
We just, we look like we weren't

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prepared and we it's not that we
weren't prepared.

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It's that the coordinator has
to, like you said, get them on

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the sideline, talk them through
this and say, Hey, what are they

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doing out there?
What are you seeing?

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What are they coming out in
what, what's the formations that

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are coming out inconsistently?
What are these guys doing?

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How are they blocking this up?
And at some point you got to,

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you got to get together with the
team and make some adjustments

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because.
I'm going to say this, Brian,

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I'm going to say this and I hate
to be because if I'm getting mad

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when I think about this guy, but
I, I've been dumb and started

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looking at at looking at games
from last year.

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You know how YouTube has the,
the, what do you call them

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condensed games?
I went back and started looking

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at them.
I'm going to stop doing it

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because I'm going to get mad.
But listen.

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Go watch the whole one, it'll
really make you mad.

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So people who play sports
understand this, or even if you

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watch sports, you should
understand this.

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Defense isn't always about
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Defense has some things in there
that's kind of like offense,

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just because we call it defense,
that's what it is.

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But when you talk about
attacking defense, that's not

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sitting back waiting to see what
the person can do.

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Like if you look at a good
defender like a, it's very hard

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for a defender to stop a
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Like somebody who plays offense
on Michael Jordan, it's hard for

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him to stop him because he's got
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He knows what he's doing, right?
You have to be really good at

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attacking on defense to have a
good, good defense.

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And I'm not saying that we had a
great defense, but it was always

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like we was playing defense.
We were sliding, oh, let's see

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what they're going to do.
You have to have a game plan.

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You have to have a game plan to
go attack the other team.

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We didn't have anything where we
attacked the other team after

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halftime.
We didn't have any adjustments

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that we made to go attack.
Your plan when you get people on

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the heels and you didn't go and
attack, what are we doing?

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You're playing Syracuse and then
you putting this guy on a

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receiver that ain't caught a
pass all year and he catches 2

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touchdowns on you and has his
his Super Bowl game.

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Take him out, let him go to LSU,
put somebody else in.

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Let's see what somebody can do.
I don't know man, I'm just

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saying. 100 points.
Listen, I found that stat, but I

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found the 100 points, 100 points
in the third quarter last year,

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100. 100 points.
Third quarter, that's just

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regular season and y'all think
there were a few games?

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Stanford, UVA couple games.
We didn't give up shit in the

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third quarter.
Think about that.

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They were like 3-4 games.
We gave up nothing.

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So you're talking about giving
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quarter Completely flips the
game?

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Yeah, I just, I just I, I, I,
you know, again, I just feel

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like, man, you know, I said this
on Tally's Twitter Space post

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game one time and I saw flashes
of it.

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The the most I saw it was the
Boston College and I saw

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throughout the Miami game where
going into the fourth quarter

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when they went to commercial,
the players met in the middle of

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the field and they were about to
fight.

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And, and to me, you know, if
you, this is going to make you

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uncomfortable for those watching
or when you re air this and post

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this again, I'm saying this for
my football heads, man.

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In football, you got to go to a
dog place.

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I'm a teddy bear.
I'm a father, man, You know, I,

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I got 3 kids, you know what I'm
saying?

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But when I, when I played, man,
it was personal.

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Like it you got to, you got to
be nasty.

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I feel like when you saw Tech
against Miami, when they were

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mocking Miami, when Miami kept
doing that thing like this and

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we were talking to the sideline,
I was like, this looks like a

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Virginia Tech type of team.
People don't remember.

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But again, die hard fans do.
There was controversy about us

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joining the ACC in 2004 because
the ACC, believe it or not,

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despite Clemson and those guys,
was a soft conference.

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But G and Tech hat was known for
having a brand where they would

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come into your stadium, they
would take your turf and put it

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in the lunch pail.
They would.

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They would talk shit, grab their
crotch, talk to crash the

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coaches.
Beat your, beat your ass that.

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Was not acceptable in the, you
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because a lot of those fan bases
were very well.

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We don't do that except for
Clemson and Florida State, which

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is why they dominated that
conference for a while, for

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years.
So you look at Virginia Tech,

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when they came in the first few
years, they were 21 and one on

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the road in the ACC.
That's the actual stat.

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Look it up.
They were 21 and one on the

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road.
So they would go in, the fans

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would take over your stadium,
the players would take over your

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field.
When I watched this last year on

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defense, and this is not a
scheme thing.

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This is not should we wear
orange or Almaroon.

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This is more so understanding
the attitude and moxie you

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should play with.
I'm going to tell you another

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game.
You saw it for the first half,

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the Clemson game, Virginia
Tech's defense was in their face

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and they will turn them over
sacking them.

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Clemson couldn't do anything,
but to Dabo and his staff's

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credit, in the second-half, they
adjusted offense also wet the

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bed and didn't help the They
only lost that game. 2414, Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2414 so
that means your defense gave you

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enough to win 24 points.
In today's climate of college

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football, it's not a lot of
points.

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So you know, Curtis, just a
great question.

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It's a great topic, man, because
at the end of the day, man, it's

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when I look at defense, I'm not
trying to go back because you

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can't really hit people like you
used to or targeted, but I just

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feel like you can.
Hit people you can hit.

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People, you can play with the
attitude, attitude, but.

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Attitude.
That's important.

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Yeah, that that's true.
I'm with you, Brian, and and and

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I'm with you, Victoria.
But my thing is that we were a

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poor tackling football team last
year.

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We we had a lot of missed
tackles and poor tackling.

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You turn around and like I said,
you just weren't physically

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strong and somebody like there
weren't times when we hit people

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that they went backwards and you
brought that out to me say, hey,

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look, watch, watch us hit this
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And they don't go backwards like
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That's the difference when
you're physically stronger than

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them to go but make plays like
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And we didn't do that.
So let's go back to the ones we

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were talking about.
You're up 20.

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You're I'm in New York.
My wife damn near passed out

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walking to that, to that, to the
stadium, right, because it was

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such a long walk.
You're up 24 to 7 right with 7

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minutes and 37 seconds left in
the third quarter and you let a

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guy who had not had a pass all
damn year have a career game on

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you.
Do any of y'all know who's

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Skinner of the skin?
The wide receiver of

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Vanderbilt's last name was
Skinner.

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You know.
Did any of y'all know his name

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before that?
Before that Saturday, right?

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You know, you know when Steve
Smith did his breakdown, You

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know which game they showed the
our game.

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Our game.
Game OK, give me that right.

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You want to know the kid that
Duke had a had a record quarter,

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a record quarter, right?
He turns around right?

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Dude don't even get drafted
right But guess what smoked it.

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Guys listen, it got to the point
man where it the younger guys

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need to be playing and like
y'all said, if a guy can't turn

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around, he's not going to make a
play or he go elsewhere and

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that's fine, go wherever you got
to go.

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But you turn around, you
shouldn't go ahead and get folks

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off the field so you can go make
plays, because those are games

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you should have won.
That's right, You should have

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beat Syracuse.
You should have.

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You should have beat Baby,
right?

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You could have beat Duke.
Man, I didn't even get a chance

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to crack a beer before they
threw a bomb on our ass against

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Duke.
I got to the stadium, wouldn't

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go get a beer.
I turned around.

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We.
Down 79.

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Chris, let me ask you a
question.

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Go ahead.
We were at the Duke game and

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this is, this is I was actually
at my son's basketball

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tournament when he was prepping.
We were up and I watched the

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game on my phone.
We were in, we were in

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Connecticut or New York.
We were in New York or

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Connecticut, right?
And here's the thing, when you

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look at Duke, I'm asking you
this question because you saw

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the it's a couple of questions.
Did they fear Virginia Tech and

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that's AB?
Did they also going to that game

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believe they were going to win
based off what you saw?

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Listen man, if you turn around
the first playoff scrimmage, you

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go ahead and drop, throw a damn
99-A9 route to a guy.

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You don't.
You ain't afraid of them.

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That's my point.
That was.

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The That was the very dude,
Dwight.

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We turned around, we did.
We ran 5 plays.

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I went to the stand, ordered a
beer.

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I couldn't even crack it and
that dude threw A-7890 yard.

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Bomb on it.
So again, so again, just really

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quickly, because I know Curtis,
you got to move us on, but I'm

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just saying.
Well, it's about the second

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game.
OK, scheme to scheme.

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What I'm saying is.
Even in the.

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Notre Dame recent era Duke Duke,
Duke always went into the

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Virginia Tech game is like, OK,
this is going to be a tough one.

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We got to tighten our chin
straps.

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I remember watching that game
and I remember they were

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laughing at us when they were up
and I'm like, yo, we have really

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hit near rock bottom when Duke
and I'm not talking bad about

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Duke football.
I think the quarterback shot a

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bird to the quarter, yeah.
Yeah, dude, the dude, the dude

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had, he had like 100 and the
dude had damn near 200 yards in

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the 1st and a quarter.
Dude, he had three touchdowns,

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200 yards.
He was like, yeah, it was crazy.

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They just felt that they could
get vertical on those guys and

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go from there.
Now, I can understand love and

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fell on one, but you can't fall.
You're a Division One player.

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You can't fall in a situation
like that.

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But the safety play was the
safety play was minimal bad

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angles.
It was it was so it was so

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egregious that some guys just
didn't belong out there playing.

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And because they had because you
had younger guys in the

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background that you were like,
Hey, we don't know we're going

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to play them or we going to do
this and move this guy.

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Listen, I'm I'm all for
everybody making as much money

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as they possibly can.
Just don't do it on my watch and

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lose.
No damn football game,

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especially when I can't crack my
beer yet.

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Stop somebody.
There's no possible way.

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You don't even know who that
dude is.

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I know Pablo Baccario play
basketball.

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I have no clue who that wide
receiver is because his ass

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didn't get drafted, but he had a
career game on our ass.

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Yeah, he did.
Speaking, Speaking of secondary,

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I think Brian has something
going with that ad about that.

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Yeah.
I mean, you know, we saw a lot

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of turnover to secondary.
Some of it's probably a good

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thing we had two guys go out the
door in the portal.

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I know we kind of hit it around
a couple of those guys both in

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the tackling and getting getting
some busted coverage, some blown

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coverage there with with Mosa
Mansoor, but a lot of

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interception production went out
the door too.

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It looks like we had 11 last
year and only Dante with 1 is

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coming back on that team.
A lot of about the new portal

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guys, especially in the safety
room, how we feeling about these

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new guys and what Cephkis can do
with some of those three safety

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looks and some of those more
exotic pressures that he can get

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from from from those different
levels in this defense.

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I'll let Chris kick this off.
Yeah, go ahead, Say Chris, go

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ahead.
Chris I I I love I love what you

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know, I got to get a nickname
for coach C kids.

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I don't know Sam.
I am.

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I don't know what it is, but I
just got to get it because the

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dude loves football.
But I just think you're going to

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put guys on the field that can
go get after the ball.

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IBM he you know, he wants to
gather.

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Dante's got to show that what he
can be able to do and I know he

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wants to improve.
I think your safety player is

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going to be so much more
improved with Quinn Reddish

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being to the point of having a
year full in the system and

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filling comfortable with it.
And you're just going to have

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guys who who really attack the
football.

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The one thing Dorian was great
at, Dorian was great at coverage

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and and he got better as the
year went along.

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But we're picking off passes,
whereas Monsoon was going to

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gamble and and try to make plays
and things of that nature.

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But I just think I think your
secondary play is going to just

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be so much it's going to be
exotic and because we're going

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to get into our prediction and
people haven't seen it and and

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and Sam is going to throw
different things at people and

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we don't go against a lot of
great passes this year.

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So I think it's going to work to
our benefit, to be honest with

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you.
I think the secondary is going

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to be I think the secondary is
going to it's going to have a

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couple of bumps and bruises.
Like we don't have a flat out

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Blazers, you know, guys who can
just flat out run.

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But I think with the different
looks they're going to give us,

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it's going to give us time to
get home and cause guys to make

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error throws and things of that
nature.

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Dwight, before you jump in here,
I'm going to ask, ask Chris.

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I'm going to give you one name.
You tell me what you think about

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this guy, JoJo Krim.
Loving, long, lean, athletic.

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He's he's, he is, he is
everything you want in today's

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corner.
He's going to be physical.

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He want, he, he has a nose.
He wants the football.

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Like when the football's in the
air, it's like, it's my

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football.
And that's the difference that

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that is the difference.
What I think with the

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cornerback, with the cornerbacks
we have now, you know our best.

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Our best corner won't play a
snap this year, in my opinion.

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The guy who was not going to
play it and I don't think, and

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you know, with Josh Clark, with
Josh Clark going out, I think he

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was going to having a breakout
year.

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And you know, Josh is, Josh is
just an athlete, man.

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Yeah, I, I loved what I saw from
him kind of as the season was

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wrapping up there.
So disappointed that, you know,

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injury got got to him there and
he we're not going to see him

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this year.
But Dwight, what you got on this

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one?
Chris Conner stole my answer.

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What I was going to say, I I
like, I like the schemes we're

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going to be running from the
secondary.

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I feel like defensively, I feel
like tech's going to be good

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this year overall, because I
think even last year they show

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flashes.
I'm I think the biggest thing

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for me is who takes on that role
that APR had.

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Like, I feel like, you know,
even though we won six games and

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probably should have won nine
last year, I feel like he's one

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of those guys that showed up
every week.

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I mean, he was actually playing
out of position because, you

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know, looking back at, you know,
not even when I played, but just

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looking at like his position at
Tech, he's a, he played on the

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outside, but he's really a
linebacker that was rushing A

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passer.
He's not ADN, which is why

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sometimes you saw him struggle
sometimes against run fits

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because you know, he's he he's
athletic and he got off the ball

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quickly.
His get off was elite, but you

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got to be able to play in space
as well as be able to stop the

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run.
But he's going to make himself

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some good money if he if he, you
know, gets in the right

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situation.
But Virginia Tech right now,

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back to your question B, at the
end of the day, man, like I like

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what we're going to.
I think defensively, look,

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you're going to steal someone,
make me put my stuff out there

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before I'm ready to.
But I'll say this.

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I feel like that is the
difference in how Tech's going

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to beat South Carolina.
A lot of times people talk about

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offense, but again this is no
secret to you for but defense is

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always in college football the
first three weeks ahead of the

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offense.
Always, always.

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I feel like that is going to be
text differential if they can

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win that game.
I like schemes that they're

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bringing this year with what
they're doing.

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I'd say this safety play has to
be good, but they also have to

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be in a situation where I said
they got to be able to rush the

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passer without the blitz.
One thing that Buck Foster took

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pride in when he had Jason
Worlds and Darrell Tapp and all

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those guys, even the Martin
brothers and all them.

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When any coordinator on any
level, especially college and

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pro, can get pressure on the
passer with his front 4 now,

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because what happens is now when
you get pressure with your front

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4, you go to the, you go to that
chalkboard and you get to your

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iPad.
You're like, Oh my God, we are

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about to get real spooky out
here and do different things,

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which puts so much pressure on
the offensive line.

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But again, my question is who
takes on that role?

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APR You know, he he kind of
reminded you a lot of Cornell

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Brown, Daryl Tack, Virginia
Tech, Jason Worldwam.

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Virginia Tech has a pass rusher.
Even going back in the days,

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even though Bruce Smith played
in the wide tackle 6, he played

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deep as a tackle.
When they have the edge rusher,

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they are so elite on defense.
But, but let's play this real

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quick.
Real quick, everybody's like

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temperature expectations.
You don't get APR 16 half sacks

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last year, but you got JC Price
in that room.

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You got JC Price in that room.
First of all, your boy, yes,

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yes.
Take a look at some of the

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portal guys we brought in.
Take a look at the Hitman kid

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from South Florida.
And Dwight, I don't know if you

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got a chance yet.
You seen the James Youngman

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interview we did a couple weeks
ago?

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Yeah, I did.
I did.

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You tell me that kid ain't a dog
that's gonna go RIP somebody's

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head off.
This is my feeling.

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And I'm looking and you look at
the pieces.

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APR was great.
People's was great.

445
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,080
But you had Gilliam, who started
growing up last year.

446
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:19,440
Do y'all think this unit, it
might not be an APR?

447
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,880
Oh, my God.
He is the best defensive end in

448
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,040
the country.
Yeah.

449
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,720
I think this unit as it's built,
you start looking at Copeland,

450
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,360
Gilliam, Ace and Stevens, who
look good.

451
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,440
Come.
On law.

452
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,440
Come on.
But this unit just produced

453
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,480
overall better.
Maybe not as many what you said

454
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,760
about APR.
He struggled at times when he

455
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,080
got rain at.
Yeah.

456
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,720
So ho ho to answer your
question, that's why I said what

457
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,080
I say.
I feel like defense defensively,

458
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,720
that's going to be your story in
a few weeks against South

459
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,080
Carolina down in Atlanta.
Because the reason why I'm

460
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,040
saying that is because of JC
Price and his scheme.

461
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:59,240
And here's the thing, when I say
who's going to the next APR, I'm

462
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,800
saying more so because I always
feel like a pass rusher and tech

463
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,720
defense leads the way and then
you can feed off that.

464
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,880
That's why I named some of the
guys that, you know, like I said

465
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,680
with Cornell and those guys.
But even though Fuga was a fan

466
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,520
favorite, that's my brother.
He's from up here in Northern

467
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,000
Virginia.
Fuga, you know, he would run

468
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,560
stop, but he didn't get that
pass rush up the middle a lot.

469
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,960
So I feel like the guys you just
named is Washington Porter,

470
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:31,400
first of all, JC Price track
record with him, even going back

471
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,880
to when he coached at JMU and
other schools at Marshall, he

472
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,280
has always given teams in Tech,
including Virginia Tech fix that

473
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,400
three time, that three overtime
game against Marshall, the

474
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,720
defensive line coach was and
Marshall was JC Price.

475
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,440
So I feel very good.
I, I don't know, I'm maybe I'm a

476
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,360
little bit overconfident, which
is rare for me, but I, I like

477
00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:55,880
our defensive scheme and what
he'll be able to do with the D

478
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,280
line.
I just feel like, again, the

479
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,280
bigger question is linebacker
play with Lawrence.

480
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:02,720
What's the kid that's been there
forever?

481
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,440
He's real long, the 65
linebacker, is he still?

482
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,000
Here you talking about you
talking about Burgos.

483
00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:13,360
Yeah, no, no, Lawson.
Yeah.

484
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,720
He's gone.
So again, who are who are the I

485
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,400
don't have the roster for who
the linebacker?

486
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,200
I was.
Going to say so yeah, that's the

487
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,360
next, next, next point that we
was going to anyway.

488
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,640
So great Segway, Dwight mainly
talking about who's running the

489
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,520
the linebacker room.
You know, you got X running out

490
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,520
of linebacker room now there you
go.

491
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:38,120
You talk about Caleb Woodson,
Jaden Keller coming back.

492
00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:40,440
So we kind of know what those
guys are.

493
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,000
Also, Spencer's going to be
there, picked up a couple guys

494
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,520
out of the portal.
So kind of what do we feel that

495
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,840
room is going to look like with
the new pieces and and the

496
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,760
pieces that we know that are
already there.

497
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,760
So Chris, now you could kind of.
Hey, hold on.

498
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,800
Before Chris, before Chris
answered that, can you just say

499
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,880
it one more time because it
sounds so good to my ears.

500
00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:07,120
You said who's?
Who's the legend The the legend

501
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,600
The the.
X-Men Xavier DB.

502
00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:13,800
Yeah, boy, Chris, I just want
him.

503
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,440
I wanted the fans to hit that
again because that's going to

504
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,320
be, it's going to be just like
when I said JC and everybody's

505
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,560
like JC, like all right.
And then now they we love you

506
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:28,720
JC.
Yeah, I'm just going to pick you

507
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,680
back on.
So with Xavier DB being there, I

508
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:36,160
just think that just is the
pedigree and the ability for him

509
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,240
to coach.
He is a young coach, but I think

510
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,120
he's an excellent coach.
But I think what's going to

511
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:43,080
happen with this where's we
would just go piggyback off the

512
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,080
defensive line when we knew it
was going to be 16 from APR and

513
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,040
then you're going to get 4 to 5
with the pressure with people's

514
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,000
upfront.
I think next year it comes, you

515
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,320
don't know where it's coming
from because I think I think

516
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Junk is going to do it.
Ben Bill's really good.

517
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,080
I think there's I think the the
surprise guy of the year is

518
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,200
going to be Kamari Copeland.
I do not think they have any

519
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,960
idea how to block him.
And that kid is crazy.

520
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,920
So you got Gillum, you got him.
You got any laws with the

521
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,360
transition?
So I think it's going to be

522
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:12,320
able.
You win football games by

523
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,800
defending.
What A&B gap block, A&B gap, run

524
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,600
through A&B gap.
That's how you win football

525
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,240
games.
So if you can't, if you turn

526
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,240
around and you can get pressure
up front on all of these mobile

527
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,360
quarterbacks, you got sellers,
Pavia King.

528
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,680
If you can make him worry about
it coming in his lap, then you

529
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,120
can rally and get to that and
get get to them.

530
00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,560
So I believe that's going to be
fine.

531
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,600
I think your linebacker room is
going to be outstanding.

532
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,920
I think you're going to be able
to turn around and kind of

533
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,280
unleash Burgos a certain kind of
way.

534
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,800
I think with Spencer, when you
have when you got Spencer,

535
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:52,400
you've got the Santiago kid, you
got short kid, but Caleb Woodson

536
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,240
is the key to this defense.
I think Caleb Woodson is going

537
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,640
to have a breakout season in the
middle of that defense.

538
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,520
His smarts, his his football IQ,
everything that they pour into

539
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,360
him.
The dude is built like a brick

540
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,560
shit house.
Excuse my French, but that's the

541
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,960
kid is the kid is cut up like
dope money and I think he's just

542
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,800
going to have a great year in in
this in this in this defense.

543
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,080
And I'll just add I've been
driving the bandwagon.

544
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,440
I got rims on my bandwagon.
I got XM radio over there.

545
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,560
I got I got a couple of things
in the glove compartment the the

546
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,760
the bandwagon I've been driving
for Kayla Woodson is this to me.

547
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,040
I remember Talley said this on
the Twitter space.

548
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,640
He did after a win.
And and you know, we all text

549
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,280
and stuff and he was just like
AO Vic.

550
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,680
He epitomizes what you talk
about the Virginia Tech brand of

551
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,880
deep.
He he arrives with the ball with

552
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,480
bad intentions.
And there was some growing

553
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,280
things here because he had to
learn.

554
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,440
People don't realize he had to
learn the whole new position.

555
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,880
And he's a tech loyal player
because I can say this because

556
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,920
I'm close to the family.
He had a lot of financial

557
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,320
options.
He could have left.

558
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,920
He has some some nice financial
package presented to him.

559
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,440
He wants to be at Tech and I
think, and this is something

560
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,400
these are one of these things
where we all know because we

561
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,080
we're media and we cover the
game and we played it.

562
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,960
And I'm not saying fans that you
know, because they don't have

563
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,040
that don't know, but there's
certain things, you know, that's

564
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,840
not going to be reported until
the 30 for 30 or later on.

565
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,800
And what I'm referring to in a
positive way is Xavier D BS

566
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:36,640
impact on Caleb is going to be
insane because X is young enough

567
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,600
and he and and real recognize
real kids, young men and young

568
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,320
women, you know, sports
recognize when you're being

569
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,000
coached by somebody that gets
it.

570
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,240
You know, I I love coaches that
can interview with Xavier.

571
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,240
DVI interviewed his old coach,
coach Sexton for my victory life

572
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,320
podcast and he talked about they
had to kind of control him in

573
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:58,880
practice.
He's one of those guys you see

574
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,320
and he's smiling.
He's a class act.

575
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:07,800
And then you see him and I, I
miss watching him and, and Vince

576
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,320
Hall play together.
And I feel like you're going to

577
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,920
see some of those bad
intentions.

578
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,720
You know, again, that's why I'm,
I'm standing on business with

579
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,320
this pick.
When it comes to our defense.

580
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,560
I think the difference for us
this year early in the season is

581
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,600
going to be our defense.
Special teams is always

582
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,240
important, but I think that
defense, the linebackers, the D

583
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,080
line, the scheme we're running
is going to fit more of the

584
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,280
personnel we have versus the
previous game.

585
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,040
Yeah, I'm, I'm with you, Dwight.
I think, you know, you talked

586
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,240
about a little bit earlier, but
I think Caleb Woodson is going

587
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,840
to be that tone setter of that
defense.

588
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,160
And you saw with with X and
having somebody that played that

589
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,000
role for Virginia Tech went on
to do bigger things in the NFL

590
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,080
and now is back here.
And I think that's going to be

591
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,840
big dividends in that linebacker
room, especially for Caleb

592
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,960
Woodson, because I again, I
think he's going to be the tone

593
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,040
setter.
And you know, you talk about X

594
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,520
being, you know, smile and
everything, but like every good

595
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,560
football player has a switch.
And when you get on that field

596
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,840
and you flip that switch and you
become a different person.

597
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,520
Well, and be just just to your
point and I remember somebody

598
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,440
was like, well, you know, you
know, Victoria man, you know,

599
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,840
pride can't hire everybody that
used to be at tech.

600
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,920
I said, listen to me, I'm not
saying you have to hire

601
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,520
everybody that played at tech.
What I'm telling you is it's OK

602
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,120
when Duke does it.
Duke's entire staff, basketball

603
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,280
is all Duke guys.
All of them all.

604
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,000
Of them.
UNCUNC, all UNC guys, Miami

605
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:42,680
football, mostly Miami guys.
I'm saying you're not in a bad

606
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:48,080
situation when JC Price, Pearson
Prelo and Xavier EB are on your

607
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,040
staff.
These guys get it and they're

608
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,920
young enough where they can
relate to the players and they

609
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,920
can teach it.
And it's like JC Price has the

610
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,920
coaching pedigree at DB, you
know, and everybody made a big

611
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,240
bill deal about pride not really
knowing who Xavier DB was.

612
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,040
I don't care about that.
I was kind of surprised.

613
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,920
But you know, sometimes coaches
answer questions not thinking

614
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,440
about how fans are going to
react.

615
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,720
But that's not his job to.
I think you got to read the

616
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,920
room, but you also got to
understand, man, those guys get

617
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,000
asked a lot of questions.
He might not know Xavier DB the

618
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,920
way we do.
I just feel like, first of all,

619
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,800
I'm going to say this shit.
He's recruiting my nephew.

620
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,240
My nephew loves the guy.
My nephew loves him like Xavier,

621
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,400
DB.
He just understands how to

622
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,920
relate to players, but he also
knows how to play the position.

623
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,960
And you talk about, again, we
talk, always talk about DBU with

624
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,880
Virginia Tech.
It will never really get the

625
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,120
consideration to be mentioned
with the Penn State's, but

626
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,920
Virginia Tech's linebacker play
for decades was elite.

627
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,520
That was also a position that
was also a position that led the

628
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,640
way when it came to good to
great defenses.

629
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,360
There was the three-year span
when Tech was ranked number one,

630
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,560
number one, and #2 in the nation
overall in defense.

631
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,680
Look at the linebackers they
had.

632
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,600
Absolutely, Absolutely.
I don't know why people always

633
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,880
feel like they got to reinvent
the wheel on something.

634
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,480
Like if your school is good at
something, just fall into it.

635
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,000
Like I feel like Virginia Tech
is always going to be a school

636
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,480
that should have a dual threat
quarterback.

637
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,239
I don't want to say your
quarterback has to run every

638
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,360
play, but I'm just saying
Virginia Tech, unless you got

639
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,560
Trevor Lawrence that wants to go
to Virginia.

640
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,639
Tech, I said if a gun could run.
Like who?

641
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:43,280
Yeah, but I'm just saying like,
go do the stuff that has made

642
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,679
you be successful.
Like why are we trying to

643
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:50,320
reinvent the wheel and go get
510 linebackers?

644
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,480
Like you got to go get a
linebacker that looks like AACC,

645
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,080
Virginia Tech linebacker, you
know what I'm saying?

646
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,040
Like we go so far away from that
and it's like I can understand

647
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,720
if we was maybe in like
California.

648
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:04,240
No disrespect to them.
I know they eat salads and stuff

649
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:06,280
over there.
Y'all in Virginia?

650
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,240
You in Virginia, you should be
able to open the door and find a

651
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:13,600
lineman, somebody who can block
a linebacker, somebody who like

652
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,360
pushed.
California got some Samoan

653
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,000
linebackers there, so they.
Understanding why are we going

654
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:25,720
to, why are we going to Germany
to get a a tackle in?

655
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:26,560
Virginia.
Like.

656
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,600
I mean, I'm in Virginia a
handful of times.

657
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,720
Ohh.
Forgot about that when somebody.

658
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, no, no.

659
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,120
Well Hans was in Virginia
though.

660
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,840
He came to.
He's talking about the kid that

661
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,360
they literally was playing in
Germany about 6-7 years ago.

662
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,440
Came to Virginia when he was
like 13.

663
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,280
Oh, OK.
OK, OK, OK.

664
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,720
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know what you're.

665
00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:51,800
Saying, man, I know what you're
talking about, Canada and

666
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,320
Georgia, I'm in Canada and
Yugoslavia for when you are in

667
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,960
Virginia.
Like, I've came to Virginia

668
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,040
plenty of times and if
somebody's bigger than me and

669
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,480
they 16 years old, I probably
would see if they can block

670
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,720
somebody.
Hey, but look to your point

671
00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:11,200
though, you know, and This is
why I said this before and this

672
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,720
is one thing I'm in the DMV,
Northern Virginia, DC, Maryland,

673
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:16,840
but I still go home.
I'm a 757 guy.

674
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,000
I'm Ava guy eight O 4.
And I've said this in many

675
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,560
Twitter spaces and even on
different platforms like this

676
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,680
you mentioned in your backyard.
You look at the kid.

677
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,360
Damn my man, I'm getting
forgetting names, but the kid

678
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,800
that played the LC Byrd wanted
to stay title with him.

679
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,040
He was a linebacker at Virginia
Tech.

680
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,200
They always joked about how,
like, yes, how he never looked

681
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,680
apart until game day and he was
an animal or one of my favorite.

682
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,200
I always butchered his name.
So I called him little Palomalu

683
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,480
Munawaka Tikatuku from Salem
with all the hair, right?

684
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,600
Yeah.
But like, again, it's a guy.

685
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,720
He looked like a wild animal
when he played, but he set the

686
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:55,640
tone.
Those kind of linebackers, all

687
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,080
the two quality 2 elite
linebackers that really didn't

688
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,360
check the boxes with all that
athleticism at the same time

689
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,480
they were able to play that
position.

690
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,840
You know what I'm seeing as far
as just being able to really

691
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,240
make that imprint in that mic
position, that linebacker

692
00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:16,480
position Virginia Tech has
always had when their defense

693
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,320
was great, good and great, great
corner play, safety play.

694
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,280
But yeah, I see the name things
wrong.

695
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,280
Like at the end of the day, man,
like, yeah, yeah.

696
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,280
So I mean, the linebacker play
to me and DB and those guys,

697
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,160
like I, I said, I always felt
like man, prior you got to have

698
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,120
your staff, you got to get your
guys and and you got to get

699
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:44,000
guys, not your boys, but people
that really understand Virginia

700
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,120
Tech football.
This is why again, you look at

701
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,240
guys like I mentioned Duke and
Carolina and programs like them.

702
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:51,440
I'm not even mocking them right
now.

703
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,800
I'm just saying like those
dudes.

704
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,520
I mean, say what you want about
Shire.

705
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,360
I noticed in the Duke
basketball, I'm talking about

706
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,280
like Final Fours understand what
it means to be a hokey or a Blue

707
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,360
Devil or like we laugh because I
know I can have fun with this

708
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,360
dude.
And the people talking about

709
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,160
back when the coke was pure and
all that.

710
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,160
But when I watched Michael
Irvin, when I watched Michael

711
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,960
Irvin when he when they were
playing, when they played Cal,

712
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,520
that Cal and that game got
close.

713
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,040
He was on the ground humping the
ground and begging the defense

714
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,120
to get a stop and sweating like
TD Jakes.

715
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:31,760
And I was like, Hey, look, hey,
I can relate to Irving because

716
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,600
y'all don't see me when I'm in
this house watching tech, right?

717
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,600
That is my only team.
So to me, my daughter's

718
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,480
recording me and she's the
better not ever released those

719
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,800
record.
When I am, I am, I am when I

720
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,680
when I watched Tech, I watched
the games all the time and two

721
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,080
Fast 1 fan where I'm like,
that's a catch and I'm yelling.

722
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,200
And then I watched them again as
a media guy that covers the game

723
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,960
and watches and I take notes and
look at stuff and trends and

724
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,560
things.
But I'm more Michael Urban when

725
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,200
it comes.
And there's a lot of guys like

726
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,680
me that played in that
university to understand what it

727
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,720
means to be a hokey and how the
defense should be and how the

728
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:13,760
offensive line should go.
JC, what happened?

729
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,240
This is my school.
I love my school.

730
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:19,640
You know, he was emotional.
People don't understand that,

731
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,960
but I think they did after they
saw that.

732
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,440
Like, that guy was able to
salvage the season and get us to

733
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,200
a bowl game, but he understands
how to coach, too.

734
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,320
So I just feel like, yeah, like
the defense is going to lead the

735
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,200
way this year.
Defense leading the way.

736
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200
All right.
Well, we get to the end 2 hours

737
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,640
37 minutes later.
Wow.

738
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,880
Not I'm not shocked.
Ain't nobody in this room

739
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,920
shocked, no doubt.
No doubt.

740
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,400
But it's only one thing that
matters because we talked about

741
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,000
players, we talked about
frustrations with last year, we

742
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,120
talked about changes, what we
can do better.

743
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,000
One thing that matters, it's
wins and it's losses.

744
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,480
And I'm old.
Shelton was nice enough for he

745
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,680
had a dip off.
He gave his prediction, Shelton

746
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,640
saying 7 and 5, four and four
and eight.

747
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,360
So.
Dwight Chris, y'all play rock

748
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,320
paper scissors, but wins and
losses got to make a prediction

749
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,040
if you're allowed.
You want to go first.

750
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,520
No, you go first because I, I
got my answer, but I, I have my

751
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,520
answer early, but go ahead
because I'm, I'm looking at the

752
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:22,840
schedule right now.
Go ahead, Chris.

753
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:23,960
I'm looking at the schedule
again.

754
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,960
The schedule, the schedule I
look at like this, I'm going to

755
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,560
give it to you like this.
South Carolina, you win.

756
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,440
OK, You beat Bandy, right?
You beat ODU.

757
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,640
You beat Wofford.
You beat Wake Forest.

758
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:42,000
OK, You beat Georgia Tech.
OK, you turn around after

759
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,960
Georgia Tech, you play Cal.
You come back and play Cal,

760
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,880
right, You play Cal.
I beat Cal.

761
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,040
The first game that I that I'm
not confident in is Louisville

762
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,720
because I think Louisville has
got a, a monster of a football

763
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:00,440
team.
I think you beat Louisville.

764
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,840
You make new memories when you
beat Miami in your building,

765
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,600
right?
You go down to Florida State,

766
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,240
right?
Because I don't think they're

767
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,880
that good this year.
And if Castellanos is still

768
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:16,040
playing, you beat Florida State
and you beat Virginia.

769
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:20,840
You're 11 and one right?
Everybody shut their ass up,

770
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,800
right and you get a chance to go
play Clemson in Charlotte.

771
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,080
I'm going to just tell you how
confident I am on that.

772
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,800
I already got my room book for
Charlotte already.

773
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,800
That's how confident I'm on that
now.

774
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,280
Now I'll put you like this so
y'all understand how I mean

775
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,920
about this.
I only want to drink bourbon and

776
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,400
smoke cigars.
All right, that's my prediction.

777
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,200
I'm going to go back down to
Charlotte again and we might

778
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,680
lose the Clemson, but we're
going to give him a fair fight.

779
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:55,680
The reason I feel that way and I
know all Chris's just pie in the

780
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,800
sky and we got to go prove it.
We do.

781
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,640
But the first six weeks of the
season, they have not seen what

782
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,960
Steve Kiss is going to throw at
him.

783
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,320
They have no clue what we they
they're going to throw at them.

784
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,720
And then that gives us time to
jail and be who we are.

785
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,200
I'm not I'm not afraid of South
Carolina at all.

786
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,040
I've been saying that they are
returning that that football

787
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,680
team that was so great last year
that won nine games.

788
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,800
You got 9 new starters.
Dylan Stewart is an absolute

789
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,960
animal, but I got to block him.
Them other cats that they got,

790
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,320
we some of them cats came from
the 757.

791
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,880
I watched them play and they
went great here.

792
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,680
They just went down to down to
South Carolina and got an offer

793
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,920
because another kid was down
there that I sit down there on a

794
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,040
plane ticket and then all
everybody saw and they thought

795
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,840
they were great.
So I don't, I think South

796
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,520
Carolina's room on defense, I
think we're going to have enough

797
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,680
offense to beat them.
I think you go back and you shut

798
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,560
Pavy up and you go and beat him.
I just believe you can go 11 and

799
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,160
one with this, with this, with
this schedule.

800
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,080
The only game that I am not
confident we can win out

801
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,200
outright is Louisville.
Everybody else, let's line it

802
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,720
up.
So that's a great, that's great.

803
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,080
I I, you know, that's, that's
good.

804
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,800
That's, that's good energy.
I'll say this.

805
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:11,280
I thought about this question
long and hard because I'm doing

806
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,280
another segment.
I'm doing more of a segment on

807
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,760
Thursday.
It's a radio show.

808
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,240
Do you know about that?
With our shout out to our guy

809
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:19,560
Rick Watson.
Yeah, But like at the end of the

810
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:24,160
day, Virginia Tech, I said this
last year when everybody said,

811
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,240
Oh my God, Virginia Tech now we
got Miami coming up.

812
00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:28,920
I said they'll probably beat
Miami.

813
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,080
And everybody was like, yo, what
do you smoke?

814
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,120
I said because Virginia Tech in
the new era will show up because

815
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,320
they recognize the name.
It's the inferior for the teams.

816
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,200
So number, number.
And then, you know, bigger than

817
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,160
that, take the emotional aspect
out of it.

818
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,480
I've been around this game a
long time.

819
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,240
No disrespect to anybody.
Sons of Saturday and all these

820
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:52,400
other podcasts, you know, Tree
of Life, all these other teams

821
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,000
and podcasts that keep popping
up.

822
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,640
I am the OG of this.
I've been around this.

823
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,720
I helped build this program.
I've connected to football

824
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:03,800
alumni and kept them connected,
You know, kind of been like the

825
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,680
unofficial ambassador voice of
the Hokies for a long time.

826
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,160
So one thing I'm excited about
is the fact that Virginia Tech's

827
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,200
opening the season against a a
very good, recognizable

828
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,840
opponent, Beamer always said and
other coaches said you always

829
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,040
prepare better when you're
playing the team with the name.

830
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,640
I I remember being dejected when
we lost the Sugar Bowl against

831
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,160
Michigan because I felt like
that could have been a great

832
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,880
win.
Was that a great Virginia Tech

833
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,760
team that was 11 win team that
lost twice at Clemson, but

834
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,520
beating Shoelace in Michigan,
that would have been a great win

835
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,760
for the brand.
We fell short a false start on

836
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,360
the 1 yard line.
You never know.

837
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,880
You know, you win that game with
Logan Thomas and David Wilson

838
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,400
and company, South Carolina.
I really feel like as much as I

839
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,600
love Shane Beamer, he's a close
friend of mine.

840
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,360
I love him.
This is a big game for him.

841
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,480
And sometimes that emotional
factor, even though he can

842
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,960
downplay, it's hard.
It's hard, It's a big game.

843
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,360
And more importantly, how many
times has everybody pick one

844
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,000
team to run through another
team?

845
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,040
Absolutely.
Georgia Tech upsets Florida

846
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,600
State in Dublin, Oregon or
Alabama.

847
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,880
When we used to open up with
Alabama, it felt like every in

848
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,760
the Chick-fil-A kickoff,
Virginia Tech was leading or up

849
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,840
or you know, it was a close
game.

850
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,560
I don't really think Tech is
going to be overpowered by South

851
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,200
Carolina #1 because it's the
first game.

852
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:32,880
It's it's when you want to play
a team.

853
00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:36,320
When I look.
When I look at Virginia Tech

854
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,480
right now and the schedule, and
I'm not saying I don't and I

855
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,080
never liked this statement.
The schedule is favorable and

856
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,840
you got a lot of win.
No, it's not a fuck.

857
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,920
I'm not saying like I don't
believe in favorable because

858
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,640
some of them are easy getting to
do the tough ones.

859
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:55,760
I I feel like when I look at the
schedule, they're they're solid

860
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,280
teams to questionable teams in
Louisville and Georgia Tech.

861
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,760
Everyone has athletes,
everybody's on scholarship, but

862
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,720
I see a lot of games that Tech
has the opportunity to win.

863
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,200
Here's the thing, South
Carolina, they come out and win

864
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,120
the game.
I see momentum where they can

865
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,280
win 9 plus games.
I really feel that way because a

866
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,120
win like that can jump start you
into a lot of confidence.

867
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,200
Not because South Carolina are
world biggest because of the SEC

868
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,520
brand.
The fact that wins always help

869
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,360
you get confident.
And I also think too, though, if

870
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,000
they come out and they're flat
and they have a game like you

871
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,880
saw when they played Tennessee
in that game, that was the

872
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,000
largest crowd ever watched a
football game.

873
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:41,080
I thought the moment was too
big.

874
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:42,640
They had five turnovers that
game.

875
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,760
That was Fuente's first year.
And.

876
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,560
Wet the bed and I felt like that
was a game where they were

877
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,800
overwhelmed by the moment.
Now that team had a lot of

878
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,200
talent and that team had the
Edmonds brothers and Greg

879
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,520
Strowman and Ricky Wall able to
still do something where they

880
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:02,040
won the Coastal and they went on
to have a great win against

881
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,440
Arkansas.
That's yet to be seen.

882
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,680
So right now I feel like Tech's
going to be in the mix and win 8

883
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:13,240
plus games.
I feel like if they struggle and

884
00:47:13,240 --> 00:47:15,760
they and they get under, they
come out underwhelming.

885
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:21,000
This is a 7 to 6 win team
because if you if you start the

886
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:25,840
season off, you know my my for
the record, my wins total is 8.

887
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:31,320
But I'm just the disclaimer.
If you start the season off and

888
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:35,440
you lose that game against South
Carolina and it's closed and

889
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:41,200
they pull away and win 27 to 17,
then it's like, OK, do you have

890
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,440
enough leadership in the locker
room to overcome that?

891
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,920
Like Virginia Tech did in O4
when they lost to USC or in 95

892
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,600
when they lost O and two to
start.

893
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,280
I'm naming teams that recover or
Boise State when they they won

894
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,480
eleven wins.
I don't know who the leaders are

895
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,200
every year when I do these pre
game shows on podcast, he would

896
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,240
talk about we got this guy, the
measurables this players this

897
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:07,200
and we got this higher.
I am always so God takes my last

898
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,600
breath going to talk about
leadership because from whether

899
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,480
it's the NFL high school pro,
even in media podcast and if

900
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,720
your team is your leaders are
good, the showings going to be

901
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:21,880
good.
I'm hoping KD drones takes with

902
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,720
a more of a leadership position.
I feel like Virginia Tech can

903
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:29,000
win eight games, ODU,
Vanderbilt, I think UV is going

904
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,480
to be better, but I still think
they got a little bit of a, you

905
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,960
know, a challenge with the
culture down there trying to

906
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,520
figure it out, you know, but I
feel like there's games that

907
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:40,720
tech can win.
You owe Miami one, but I feel

908
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,360
like I but I feel like with
those games, they'll get up.

909
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,480
Curtis.
I feel like those games tech

910
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,920
always get up.
I just feel like right now Tech,

911
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,520
if I just say is the 8 win team
because I feel like last point,

912
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,920
I'm going to shut up.
That pride understands.

913
00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,640
Coaches know what's being
whispered.

914
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:03,000
They know that you, it's not
about being scared and on a hot

915
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,440
seat.
It's understand that you know,

916
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,160
you need to really seize this
moment.

917
00:49:06,720 --> 00:49:09,120
You need to lock in and block
out all the noise.

918
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,400
And I feel like Tech can really
make something happen.

919
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,640
They're recruiting well and the
energy is good, but you a game,

920
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:21,720
a win against South Carolina at
3:30 when everyone's watching,

921
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:27,000
with everyone watching and the
whispers around Virginia Tech,

922
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,960
you win that game.
And I know I'm not trying to

923
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,560
make it like a national
championship.

924
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,800
It really changes your
perception within seconds.

925
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:40,320
It's true within seconds.
Every Tech win for all the

926
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,640
coaches, including Fuente.
When they upset my Florida State

927
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,640
at that time or when they won
games, when they when, when

928
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,280
Fuente was there and they beat
Miami on Thursday night and they

929
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:54,080
sacked that quarterback from
Miami nine times like that, it

930
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:55,600
changes perception.
He does.

931
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,400
Within seconds, within seconds,
because of the age of social

932
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:04,360
media, you beat South Carolina
Sunday afternoon, 330 ain't shit

933
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,480
going on.
You win that game and all of a

934
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,680
sudden, wow, what a win by the
Hokies.

935
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,400
Could they be back and all of a
sudden and you lose that game,

936
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,680
You can still go to a good bowl
because I still think I'm going

937
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,200
to go to a bowl.
But I just feel like you miss an

938
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:22,680
opportunity.
You, you, you have to take them.

939
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,920
You, you got it.
You got to take away the stigma

940
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:30,480
of not being beaten up a Power
14A, Power 4 conference team.

941
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,880
You, you beat the stigma of a,
of a close game and you just go

942
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,760
out and outplay somebody.
That's, that's what we missing.

943
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,880
That's what that's making
memories.

944
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,960
That's the stuff that y'all used
to do, bro, I, I was a Carolina

945
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,400
fan, dude.
I used to watch that dude #7

946
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,480
right?
Get wicked.

947
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:53,240
I was like, I don't even know
what Virginia Tech was, but you,

948
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,120
that guy, go out there and just
go win football games or damn,

949
00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:59,680
they win football game.
We've had so many close call.

950
00:50:59,720 --> 00:51:03,240
I've learned so many close call
losses here in the last two

951
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,040
years.
It made my stomach turn.

952
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,120
You go and beat South Carolina.
One quick point about my my

953
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:14,200
cousin and what he did.
He was surrounded in both years,

954
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:18,080
especially that first year, by
Corey Moore, Carl Bradley and

955
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,600
Engelberger and Company and
Jamelle Smith.

956
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,080
Andre.
The reason why, the reason why I

957
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,320
brought up the fact that I'm the
OG of this shit and I'm not

958
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,680
taking shots to anybody else on
any of the podcast is because I

959
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,840
helped build the program and I
know I know what it takes when

960
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,560
it comes to, you know, getting
your team in position to make a

961
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,240
run.
I've been there for the hard

962
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:42,040
times.
I've covered the program as a

963
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,120
columnist.
I've been in the locker room.

964
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,640
I know those players.
I know what it takes.

965
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,960
And again, I feel like Virginia
Tech desperately needs to win

966
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,680
this game because I'm going to
tell you something.

967
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,840
I know this will be true and I
have not talked to Shane, but I

968
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,960
know this will be true
regardless of who they lost.

969
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,080
Shane is going to take this game
personal and he's going to

970
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,160
unleash every opportunity fake
field and if they get up he's

971
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:12,360
going to run it up because he
was never even called to even

972
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,640
interview for the job.
Hey, I got no, I got Hey,

973
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,760
listen, I got no problem with
with with little dude wanting to

974
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,760
wind it up.
I understand that.

975
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:26,360
I ain't never liked the fact in
in that situation with him is

976
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,240
that he talks so down and dirty
about this program and I didn't

977
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:33,480
know anything about him not
getting the opportunity.

978
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,400
I'm sorry.
Well, I mean.

979
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,720
You know, the thing the thing
about is I was recruited by Tom

980
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:39,720
O'Brien when he was at UVS.
He's a coordinator.

981
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:43,080
He talked down on the program
and he went to Boston College

982
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,800
and he continued.
I know for you that's a personal

983
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,200
matter.
Shane love, listen, listen,

984
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,840
listen, listen.
I know this this might do.

985
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,480
He got victory life here.
Shane loves Shane loves Virginia

986
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,640
Tech, but right now he ain't
supposed to.

987
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,000
And listen, I still take it
personal.

988
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,440
You got to understand.
So they whether whether he might

989
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,120
have gotten called, but I text
him, he said I haven't heard

990
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,280
anything.
Brendan Hill and Kevin Jones or

991
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,680
Deandra Hall.
I think it was Brendan Hill and

992
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,160
Kevin Jones did a video, might
have been Diazo and Brennan Hill

993
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,480
about why Tech should be hired.
Now I'm going to tell you about

994
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,160
the energy Shane brings.
The AD got Shane brought back in

995
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,520
because the players at South
Carolina, former players, alumni

996
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,160
had a Zoom meeting with the AD
to say you better hire Shane.

997
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,360
So when he coached, when Frank,
his dad had to throw surgery,

998
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,360
the energy around that program
on that Music City Ball, when

999
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,760
Cincinnati was a nine win team
and we were six and six, Tech

1000
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,480
came out and bought Greg Stroman
stole the show.

1001
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,080
But my point being, Shane had
that energy.

1002
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:48,320
What I'm saying is this shit
right here, what I'm doing, you

1003
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,880
know, you can't be doing this.
You got to throw that pin down

1004
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,520
and you're going to have to do
some fake filled whatever it

1005
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,360
takes to win that game.
It's got to be.

1006
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,360
Personal you got to get a
signature.

1007
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,240
You got to get a signature win.
Remember I said there's two?

1008
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,480
Remember, I said this, There's
two things he needs as a head

1009
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,760
coach, a Mount Rushmore recruit
and signature witness.

1010
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,480
And because all this, hey, man,
gosh darn it, we're going to a

1011
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,560
bowl game again.
Those boys fought hard.

1012
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,720
Don't know about this is for the
first time I've been I've been

1013
00:54:19,720 --> 00:54:22,600
around this program blowing
anybody covering that in.

1014
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:24,800
The podcast.
Nobody.

1015
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,080
Sons, dads of Saturday, nobody
has been around this program as

1016
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,520
long as me.
And I'm telling you right now,

1017
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,400
when it comes to Virginia Tech
football, you got to seize the

1018
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,680
moment.
We, this has been the lowest

1019
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,280
amount of energy around this
program going into a season in

1020
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,120
the history since 28.
And one, there is no momentum

1021
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,560
and energy.
None.

1022
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,120
Nobody was talking about Tech
this year.

1023
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,280
We're not even at like, hey,
watch out for the Hokies.

1024
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,160
I don't mean to go too long,
Curtis, I'm sorry, but I'm just

1025
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,400
telling you this is important.
Not just to me, but there are a

1026
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,120
lot of people who feel the way I
do who have spent a lot of money

1027
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,240
and time, who kept buying into
the hype and buying T-shirts and

1028
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:11,840
flights and tickets when shit
was delinquent in the payment

1029
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,280
section of their bills.
And they still drove to cities

1030
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,840
and things like that.
You can play with people as

1031
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,040
like, hey, you going to Atlanta?
I'm like, no, I'm not number

1032
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,760
one.
I can't afford it right now.

1033
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:26,160
I could if I wanted to, but like
to me, I'm I'm going to be

1034
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,800
watching the game like this.
I can y'all.

1035
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,480
I'm going to be just like this.
Better stop man.

1036
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,640
Better stop bro.
No, I'm.

1037
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,760
Chris, make him on, Make him
unfold the arms, is what he's

1038
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:38,200
saying.
Maybe.

1039
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,720
Unfold the.
Arms take him unfold.

1040
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:42,840
Chris, Chris, you can't.
You can't listen.

1041
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:45,640
I know.
I was texting Tally and I saw

1042
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:48,040
the fans on TV.
Tally called.

1043
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:53,840
We talked that Monday, He said.
Virginia Tech fans had taken

1044
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,000
over Tennessee.
It was so many I, I know, but I,

1045
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,120
I know, but I'm telling you, I
wasn't right.

1046
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:06,360
And then what happened?
We wet the bed up 2720 all the

1047
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,000
talk, all the commercials, all
the You can no longer do that

1048
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,800
for you can't do.
That you can't.

1049
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:17,000
You got to win you.
Got to win, That's the most

1050
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,120
important.
Thing when we look at this

1051
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:20,640
schedule, so we look at we look
at the schedule we we already

1052
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,600
know right out the gate we need
to get a signature win.

1053
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,080
But what I want to see too and
what we haven't done in the

1054
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:31,040
Brent Pryor and what we haven't
done really recently is have a

1055
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,320
good run throughout of
conference and through

1056
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,240
September, right.
We we have played below average

1057
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:40,640
football for the majority of
September during the Pryor

1058
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:41,200
regime.
Absolutely.

1059
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,640
I don't I don't think that's an
understatement.

1060
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,400
I thought we have not played
very well out of conference.

1061
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,480
Even when we got wins, they
weren't pretty wins.

1062
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,640
They weren't good wins.
Even against teams that you, you

1063
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,440
know, you call them easy wins.
You know, out of conference, you

1064
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,520
know, the Marshalls, the ODUS,
whatever, they weren't all

1065
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,120
pretty wins.
We got to go out there and we

1066
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,920
got to set the tone against
South Carolina, get that

1067
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,440
signature win, but we got to
keep that run going through the

1068
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,080
through September.
I want to get the NC State of

1069
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,520
September 27th with a 0 in that
loss column.

1070
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,760
Absolutely.
That's what we need to do.

1071
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,840
And then start ACC playoffs
strong with the win there.

1072
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,840
If you get through September and
you don't have a blemish on that

1073
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,600
record, that's when you start
thinking, all right, well, baby,

1074
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,200
maybe this is the Virginia Tech
that we want them to be.

1075
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,360
This is the Virginia Tech we
haven't seen in a while, but

1076
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,760
that's what I want to see.
Go ahead.

1077
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,680
Go ahead, Tyler, Go ahead.
Just just as simple as it can

1078
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,600
get.
If you win that first game, you

1079
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,680
win 8.
If you lose that first game,

1080
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,640
you're going to win six.
That's where I met with

1081
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:42,960
Virginia.
That's tally right there.

1082
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:44,400
That's kind of what I said,
right?

1083
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,920
Well.
I think, but I think what you

1084
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:54,200
said also too, Dwight, is if you
get that signature you bring to

1085
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,480
the national spotlight people
are talking about, your

1086
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,040
confidence grows, expectation
grows, you feel good about

1087
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,760
yourself going into the and.
You get ranked Bill and you get

1088
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,080
ranked.
Now that they'll keep us out,

1089
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,080
Listen, listen.
Preseason polls are bullshit

1090
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,920
because there's eleven teams
from the SEC currently getting

1091
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,520
ranked.
There ain't 11 good.

1092
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,640
Teams in that welcome
conference, I hate it, you know,

1093
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,440
and I'm not, I'm not going to
debate you on that.

1094
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,400
I'm just saying like you get
into position to be ranked if

1095
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:24,080
you followed up with Vanderbilt,
win, followed up against.

1096
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,640
That no, that's, that's right.
No.

1097
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,520
That's that's real.
You go to it.

1098
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,080
You go to it you.
Can put a number.

1099
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,640
Because again, when's the last
time we've been ranked?

1100
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:39,200
I mean, listen, listen, listen.
I'm, I'm, I'm, I remember, I

1101
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,800
remember when one of my favorite
movies called.

1102
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,720
It was then said when he played
the boxer.

1103
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,400
What about?
The hurricane.

1104
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,160
Hurricane, Yeah.
So, so remember, remember the

1105
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,200
scene?
It was a final appeal.

1106
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,480
And his two lawyers are outside
the window and he's sitting

1107
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,800
there like this.
Denzel won the goat of acting.

1108
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,200
Yes, Sir.
So he took the jailhouse phone

1109
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,800
and he said he banged on that
joint.

1110
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,000
He banged on he.
Said that's right, banged, he

1111
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:05,280
said.
Look.

1112
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,680
He said look, we do it and I'm
and I'm done.

1113
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,520
If it doesn't work out, I'm
going to live and die here.

1114
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,080
But I'm paraphrasing the scene,
right?

1115
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,320
That's right, yeah.
Hey man, Chris, you were a

1116
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,360
Carolina fan.
You came in when you saw my cuss

1117
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:22,520
set the world on fire when you
have been in my position.

1118
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,640
I'm Denzel behind the phone man.
We ain't got no more.

1119
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,720
Time, bro, I don't know listen,
so I know tech will go on long

1120
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,240
after I'm here.
What I'm saying to you is this

1121
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,880
program means way more than what
people realize to me.

1122
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,000
Like I got 2�� from there.
I met my wife there, my family,

1123
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,680
everyone's going there.
On top of it, I recruited 2 of

1124
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,480
my cousins there.
More importantly, the bowl

1125
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,880
games, all different things we
helped build there.

1126
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,440
For me, I spoke there.
I was a keynote speaker on the

1127
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,800
9/11 Memorial Day.
I was a speaker there, right?

1128
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,040
Article written about me.
I was the Virginia Tech

1129
00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,640
ambassador when Fuente was
there.

1130
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:04,080
I did a football alumni panel.
I covered the game with Kyle

1131
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,520
Bailey.
Pregame show.

1132
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:09,880
I've driven a Tech at 4:00 in
the morning to do a pregame show

1133
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,880
and watch them blow a blow a
lead again or lose to East

1134
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,080
Carolina.
So I have given my life.

1135
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:19,280
I'm not knocking the newcomers,
but to me, I'm Denzel with the

1136
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,040
phone.
I'm hitting this, this, this

1137
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,800
jailhouse phone.
And I'm like, hey man.

1138
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:27,440
I'm tired.
I'm tired of being irrelevant.

1139
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,920
I am tired of like, we didn't
execute and we have to make

1140
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,880
better plays.
I can't because way.

1141
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:40,760
Forest has surpassed us, Duke
has surpassed us, Marshall has

1142
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,560
surpassed us.
We are not supposed to be in

1143
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,560
this position.
This is unacceptable.

1144
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,240
It's I'm sorry, it's I don't
want to hear about in our money

1145
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,160
and budget, Ricky Leblu listed
the thing.

1146
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,560
We got money now Ricky's my boy.
I'm just saying I'm not mocking

1147
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,880
Ricky.
I'm saying like we got money and

1148
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:06,240
I know what wits talking about.
I'm talking about stop it man,

1149
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,440
like yo stop playing with
people's emotions man.

1150
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,920
Y'all you didn't understand what
this program and living up here,

1151
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,640
my dad and my father-in-law are
Redskins fans, Commanders fans.

1152
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,880
I was one when I was a kid,
there was a guy that was crying

1153
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,240
when they clinched the playoffs,
when they beat Atlanta and he

1154
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,320
was in the stands crying.
I was looking, I wasn't at the

1155
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,080
game, but I remember I saw it on
on TikTok and he turned to his

1156
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:29,880
boy.
He was like, and he just started

1157
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,960
rubbing his boy.
He was like, I know if you've

1158
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,560
been a Commanders fan like my
friend, you're talking about

1159
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,320
decades of irrelevance.
Your only Super Bowl win was to

1160
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,120
beat the Cowboys or play the
Eagles close.

1161
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:47,960
I don't want Tech to become that
when beating UVA is people

1162
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,120
online.
That is disgusting to me.

1163
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,040
I do not want that.
I used to wake up on forget when

1164
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,360
I play.
I used to wake up on Sundays

1165
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,560
back when the paper came out,
even with the social media stuff

1166
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,960
and say OK, oh they lost, they
lost.

1167
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:08,160
We should be 18 tomorrow, we
should be 17.

1168
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,800
We oh snap we might be #9 now
I'm like damn dawg, we are three

1169
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:21,320
and five.
Can we even get to a bowl at

1170
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:23,600
this point?
Yeah, well, I think what what?

1171
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:28,920
Dwight, you've again, you've
been through every a season of

1172
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:33,640
your life up at tech me.
You know, Chris, you got a kid

1173
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:35,080
there.
Now you're seeing a season of

1174
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:39,560
his life and then us three up
here and and the fourth he gone.

1175
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,640
He he got to get his beauty
sleep.

1176
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,240
So that's for sure someone's got
to get to bed.

1177
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:48,480
But for 30 years of our life, 30
years, right?

1178
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,200
A lot of that 30 years, it was
good times.

1179
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,080
It was ten wins.
It was Orange bowls, it was

1180
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,560
Sugar bowls.
It was top notch players.

1181
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:57,400
It was doing what you just
talked about.

1182
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:03,280
We're going to be #5 this week,
we're 6 and up USC.

1183
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,040
The rest fucked us.
We got screwed by them.

1184
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,920
We want to get back to
relevancy.

1185
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,840
And I think what you're saying,
what you're saying, what you

1186
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,040
went with your, your your
monologue there on South

1187
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,800
Carolina is why that game is so
important.

1188
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:18,960
It's not the Vanderbilt game
last year.

1189
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,000
If we beat Vanderbilt last year
and we go seven and five, people

1190
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,560
are just like you beat
Vanderbilt, South Carolina's

1191
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,000
13th in the country.
Lenore Sellers is the biggest

1192
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,440
fucking thing in quarterback.
You mentioned Dylan Stewart, the

1193
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,520
biggest DN they have everybody
looking at them.

1194
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,920
You go down there and you bump
them off the heads turn and say,

1195
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:38,760
are they back?
Because I said on this program

1196
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,120
about a year ago, when will we
know we're back?

1197
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:46,600
There will be a moment.
There will be a moment in time.

1198
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,680
We going to know it in the
moment, probably not, but you're

1199
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,480
going to reflect on it.
And I think that's what you're

1200
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,200
saying, because that game it is,
it's going to be a massive

1201
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,280
audience.
It's going to be a massive

1202
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,400
audience.
At 3:00, the stadium is going to

1203
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,040
be packed.
If you go down there and you

1204
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:09,160
pull off that win, it puts
people on notice and how you

1205
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,400
pull it off.
I don't care how beat them by

1206
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,040
30, beat them by 1.
I don't care about how much you

1207
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:18,920
win by.
Nobody cares.

1208
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,360
So Curtis, that goes, that goes
to, yeah, I would say so it goes

1209
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,800
to this.
We've heard from a couple of

1210
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,800
different people.
What's your number?

1211
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,440
I'm at 8.
Eight wins.

1212
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,640
I'm at eight wins this year.
Yeah, I'm, I'm with Dwight.

1213
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,960
I'm with eight wins this year.
Brian.

1214
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,120
I'm liking 8 as well.
I'm right.

1215
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:40,720
I'm right at 8:00.
I could be talked into 9.

1216
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,400
I could be talked into 7.
Like I said, I think the the

1217
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,360
South Carolina game is going to
be the tone setter and that's

1218
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,280
going to really kind of depend
on how the rest of those chips

1219
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,000
fall this season.
But I'm going to say.

1220
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:52,480
So real quick.
Go ahead, go ahead, I hope.

1221
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:57,240
Me, Dwight, Brian and Talia are
all wrong, Chris, and you're

1222
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,120
right.
Because I'm just saying I'm just

1223
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,320
go ahead, go.
Ahead, I'm not one of the There

1224
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:05,280
are a lot of people out there
and we see them all the time I

1225
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,520
don't want the team to win.
I want that coach to get fired.

1226
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:10,040
I don't like what we're doing
Fuck those people.

1227
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,960
Fuck you if you're one of those
people you ever pull against

1228
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,520
your team, get the.
Fuck out.

1229
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:19,040
Because it's bullshit.
Because I remember 2021, there

1230
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,360
were so many people.
I want Fuente to lose.

1231
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,840
Why do you?
Want our team to lose?

1232
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,280
Why do you want do it?
And you love to lose.

1233
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:28,920
Maybe it'll.
Change things.

1234
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,200
No, it's not.
You're just going to fall deeper

1235
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,240
and deeper into irrelevant.
Deeper and deeper.

1236
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:38,760
Yeah, my thing is this, man, I
just believe like this and I'm

1237
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,640
going to say this and we can get
up out of here.

1238
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,680
You have 4 guys get relieved in
a position if you're better up

1239
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,760
front, if you're better up front
of your offensive line, which I

1240
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,600
totally believe you will be,
that makes second.

1241
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,880
That makes second and four third
and three a lot easier.

1242
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,440
If you have an offensive
coordinator that has a plan and

1243
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,240
an idea what he's doing and he's
and he's knowledgeable because

1244
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,200
that was the biggest thing.
We didn't have a knowledgeable,

1245
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,760
credible experience.
OC you have that now you've got

1246
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:14,800
a defensive genius like big just
sitting up at night thinking of

1247
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,920
kind of daggum defenses with C
kiss and he wants these guys to

1248
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:23,040
understand it be simple and play
fast and you got a bunch of

1249
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,960
kids, man that don't don't have
this or allure about the SEC

1250
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,640
being because a lot of them got
recruited to the Seca lot of the

1251
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:35,000
SEC pissed off a bunch of them
said they weren't big enough,

1252
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,640
they wouldn't miss and they
willing to go down there and

1253
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,720
bust their ass.
I'm just telling you this is a

1254
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:43,960
double digit win team.
I'm standing on business.

1255
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,040
No, I'll say this, I'll give
Chris props on this.

1256
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:54,160
The year they went seven and six
prize second year when they went

1257
01:06:54,160 --> 01:07:00,080
seven and six, they had a losing
record when Don V had his live

1258
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:03,880
and Chris said they're going to
a bowl after what I say today,

1259
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,480
they're going to a bowl and
everybody in that space was like

1260
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:09,800
yo, you, you tripping, You don't
know what you're talking about.

1261
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,360
You just emotional and they got
to a bowl game that year.

1262
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,880
So I'm not going to knock Chris
prediction of eleven wins.

1263
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,160
I'm not even saying that
couldn't happen.

1264
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,720
I just need man for me and my
Peace of Mind.

1265
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:27,880
And I mean I as much as I love
Tech as much as I bought into

1266
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,000
what that program means.
I met my wife at Virginia Tech

1267
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,240
bro, like you got to understand
something at the time I chose

1268
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,800
Tech.
I was the first recruit in 94.

1269
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,640
I broke a streak because
everybody was going to UVA,

1270
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:42,520
Carolina and Penn State or other
schools.

1271
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:45,360
I, I was the first person in my
schools.

1272
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,840
Well, I just interviewed coach
Mike Smith and he talked about

1273
01:07:47,840 --> 01:07:50,680
it like because they, there was
a rift between him and the

1274
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,640
coaches and I, I broke the
streak.

1275
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,600
Then then you got Myron Newsom
and a lot of guys, including

1276
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,080
Mike and Marcus.
So when I chose Tech, nobody was

1277
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,880
going to tech from the like that
like they like I, I brought that

1278
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,040
energy alone.
Antonio Banks and Lawrence Lewis

1279
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:11,880
So for me, when tech wins like
on a Sunday, especially to start

1280
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,960
the week, if they can win that
game and by 6:45 we're kneeling

1281
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,000
and we throw the ball to the ref
and I see orange, maroon pom

1282
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,760
poms and people stand up and
down.

1283
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,479
That gives me life because I
don't I play fantasy, I do

1284
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,120
parlays.
I don't have no favorite NFL

1285
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,640
team.
I have no favorite NBA team.

1286
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,319
Like so we lose.
And then on top of it, when you

1287
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:36,399
who I am, my phone, all my
phones blow up, blowing up, blow

1288
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:38,120
up.
It was like, what's going on?

1289
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,439
Fire this dude.
This is and and and I have to

1290
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:45,000
kind of help then de escalate
the fan base because I've been

1291
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,600
appointed and annoyed at the
voice of reason, which I am.

1292
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,439
So yeah, man, I'm glad.
Yeah, I need.

1293
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:55,720
Sometimes you need space to vent
too, because like watch it you,

1294
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,520
you live it, you, you got a
vent, but you also got to be the

1295
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,319
voice of reason.
So you got to kind of come at it

1296
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:03,479
from both angles sometimes.
You understand what I did when I

1297
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,880
went back to 757 and I was
wearing my tech gear.

1298
01:09:07,279 --> 01:09:11,240
It went from where where you at
Vermont to like yo, I'm trying

1299
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:12,880
to go there so I understand what
I did.

1300
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,880
When I came there was an influx
of Hampton High guys to include

1301
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,040
Tyrod Taylor.
I got I help bring in guys that

1302
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,600
are household names like
legendary.

1303
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,160
They have their names engraved
in plaques on walls.

1304
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,960
I'm not trying to make this show
as we wrap up about me.

1305
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,960
What I'm saying is when I speak,
it's not just emotion.

1306
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,399
It's not just like we need the
1st 40 fans to come out and get

1307
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:35,840
a free T-shirt.
I don't want to do all that

1308
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:38,680
manufacture bullshit.
I'm talking about something I

1309
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,000
believe that I believe in, like
the Vandy laws hurt me.

1310
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:46,120
Like losing, you say it hurts,
it hurts like it hurts like

1311
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:49,560
losing over to you and have to
hit those fans behind me and

1312
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,120
talk and talk reckless, you
know?

1313
01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:56,800
So to me, you know, when Chris
talks about 11 wins, I'm all for

1314
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:57,880
it.
I just need them to be.

1315
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,760
I just need them.
I need the people that make

1316
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,680
their money.
The way I talk about it on your

1317
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:06,640
show, it needs to matter to them
that way because you know what

1318
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:10,560
JC and those guys, they feel the
same way I do.

1319
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,480
Thank you.
This is this is what I'll say.

1320
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,400
This is what I'll say while we
close.

1321
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:19,640
Them out cap.
It off how I feel when you go

1322
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,200
look at the Titanic, right?
The Titanic had everything.

1323
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,720
The Titanic had everything they
needed.

1324
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:29,480
They had the band playing, they
had the the best boat, they had

1325
01:10:29,480 --> 01:10:32,400
the fancy food.
All the rich people was there.

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01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,600
Everything was lined up.
It was the captain's job to take

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01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,280
the the the boat from here to
here safely.

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01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,920
That motherfucker ran.
That motherfucker ran into a big

1329
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,200
ass thing of ice and killed a
whole bunch of people.

1330
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:49,360
Pry.
If you're going to drive this

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01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,720
boat, stay away from the
micebergs, man.

1332
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,160
We trying to make it.
We trying to make it to the

1333
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,960
other side safe and the other
side safe is eight wins.

1334
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,960
We happy.
You keep hitting icebergs,

1335
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,720
brother.
Get your signature win this

1336
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:06,280
year.
Go beat somebody.

1337
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,920
I'm tired of losing.
I'm tired of seeing new King

1338
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:12,080
talk about Miami and and what
they doing.

1339
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,280
We got to win this year.
So I'm going to end it with

1340
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,080
that.
Curtis, what you got for me?

1341
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,960
Let's wrap up this episode of
the Boundary Corner podcast.

1342
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:22,560
Crystal White thank you all for
bringing the energy.

1343
01:11:23,480 --> 01:11:25,120
Love y'all both.
Thank you, man.

1344
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,920
Thanks for having us, man.
No doubt.

1345
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,920
As you all know, we are brought
to you by Doctor Jeremy Council

1346
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,680
at the Count Stanley Pharmacy
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1347
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,920
moments on the Maury in
Lexington.

1348
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,040
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Siegler.

1349
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,200
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01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,920
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01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,240
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1357
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:05,400
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1358
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,840
Yeah, pal, you told us 3 hours.
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1359
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:14,600
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OK.
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