Season Kickoff and Predictions
Boundary Corner Podcast
Season Kickoff and Predictions

In this episode we look at all aspects of the Hokies upcoming season, weigh in on several of the key factors for success, and make predictions for the Hokies win-loss record should things break their way this Fall.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast with my partner,

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Brian seagull.
I am Curtis Wilson, welcome to

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the new normal brine.
Yes sir.

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Yes sir.
Welcome back.

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It's a Tuesday night.
We're riding Tuesdays at least

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from here on out to the end of
the season.

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We'll see how we pivot from
there but yeah.

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So look for us on Tuesday is
going forward.

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It's a good Tuesday night
though.

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Curtis how you feeling buddy.
It is a Tuesday night little

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earlier in the week.
You know, Brian says, watch

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first, on Tuesdays.
We may flip it to Monday's for

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some of the Thursday games just
to get the content out there

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earlier but I'm feeling good
man.

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You know it's it's the summer is
winding down in all aspects.

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Schools essentially is started
here and it's footballs in the

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air.
Watch several preseason games

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over the weekend.
Yep.

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You know, we've had some mostly
fall weather here man, like,

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especially last week and parts
of this week or looking pretty

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nice.
Not, not.

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Not that.
Cool.

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But unseasonable e comfortable.
Yeah, comfortable.

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Yeah.
So we're really waiting for the

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September games that's 102 and
it's just like miserable

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outside.
Like this is it.

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Fun like hot games.
Hard games and football.

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Just do not go together.
At least we should we should be

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pretty good for for the opener
because it's, you know, 8:00, so

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it's a night game but it down at
the beach, you can get a little

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humidity, a little breeze off.
So down there who knows what the

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weather potentially could be.
Let's start, man, we have some

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big news that broke last week.
I don't think it shocked any of

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but a quarterback decision was
made Brian and I don't think it

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shocked, anyone Grant Wells, the
Marshall transfer was named

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starting quarterback and I kind
of asked you when it happened.

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I said why now, why?
Why not later?

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There's there's a couple reasons
to me.

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Number one, you want to get last
week of Camp, you want to have

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your starter name?
Do you want to kind of get that

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comfort with the receivers?
Getting those extra reps that

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are true, starter will get and
getting those reps with the guys

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that he's going to be throwing
to more consistently once the

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season starts.
And that's kind of the big thing

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there and we know he's been
majority working with the ones

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but as you kind of wind down its
the It's no more like ones.

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Get equal reps with twos and
threes and so forth, you're

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starting to see okay well for
every three or four reps that

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grants getting you know Jason's
probably only getting one or two

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and you start getting a little
bit imbalance there which gives

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Grant a little bit better
opportunity to get more.

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Acclimated with that offense is
still a new offense for him, new

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offense for even guys that were
Veterans of the team last year.

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So it's important to do that as
you get gear into this week.

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Which is you know, my game week
so you have want you close out

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fall Camp, you got your starter
name, you roll in the mud game

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we can then you get full week
one preparation starting next

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week.
Yeah, it's that timing piece and

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when you explain that to me, it
made sense.

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Because now so it was named
Wednesday.

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So we got obviously he got
Friday, he get the scrimmage

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where it's probably what
probably 80/20, if not 85/15,

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where he was probably resting
with the ones.

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Sunday, Monday.
Now they're doing a mock game

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week likely this week, so it
made sense.

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Something I'm going to tell you
something.

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I don't think Brent prize ever.
Going to put Brad Glenn on the

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podium around Spring ball
because Brad Boone was very

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blunt in his assessment.
When he said, oh no, no, no, no

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Wells had a significant gap on
Jason going, and after the

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spring, where Brent prowl is a
little more of a they're

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battling every battle when was
like, And he gave Jason the

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ultimate compliments that you
know, summer workouts, early

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part of fall Camp, Jason was
continuing to push it and got

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better but he could never catch
Grant.

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So I just thought it was because
that was just brutal honesty.

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And if if you put him on the mic
and made us, he say that, and

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Brent prize to give him the
side, I like no, no, there are

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competing, some nobody has lead.
I mean, I appreciate the

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honesty, I'll be and I
appreciate, I mean, there's

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going to be some coach speak
here and there but I appreciate

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the honesty.
Coming out from coach Glenn

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there.
I think that's going to be.

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I think we kind of saw it right?
When we watch the spring game, I

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mean, I know there was some
deficiency with the offensive

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line that Jason was working with
compared to Grant.

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So, you know, there was some
inequality, in terms of the time

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they were given the cleanliness
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that.
At, but I think we can see just

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with the throws the Christmas
that there was, there was a gap

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there and there was going to be
a big gap that that would have

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to be closed if Jason was going
to take that starting spot and I

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think as a team and as a fan
base, I think we're probably

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happy with the way this worked
out, because now you've got the

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guy that's going to be your
potential starter for this year

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next year, and maybe another
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Pulling the trigger this this
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I think that's important.
Long term for this team because

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the inconsistency at the
quarterback position has been a

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big Bugaboo for the last five
years.

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Yeah.
That's been talked about quite a

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few places.
I Know, cover 3 pod, they

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mentioned one of the hosts are
Tom for nearly mention how much

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he liked Grant Wells and about
how the quarterback position had

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been in flux at tech for so
long.

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A couple other things that That
Brad Glenn said was he really

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like the command that you know,
Grant has of the offense at all

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three levels but especially was
very very keen on talking about

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that deep ball accuracy, which
you know what he said?

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You know, normally like to take
two to three shots of quarter

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and then he's like but what
Grant it could be more and

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you're just like counting isn't
that would be 12 if we do more.

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Are we saying we're going to
take if he passes 30 times Are

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going to take half of them down,
fecal it we're getting ready in

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12 to 15 shots of game.
I'll take that I'll take that

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especially for taking that if
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running game and take most of
those off a play action where

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you get a clean pocket and be
able to look look deep with a

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clean pocket.
Therefore for Glenn.

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So for green, I mean, sorry, not
for Coach Lynn preferred Grant.

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I think that's the big thing,
man.

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And I think Glenn wants that
clean pocket, but I think it was

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the other piece, the other two
levels because I think we've

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seen some of the video Grant
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He does have a really good deep,
all very accurate on it, but

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understanding now you're at the
P5, not the G5 level, those

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short and intermediate throws
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important to move the chains.
We talk about taking Chopsticks

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great, but if it's second and
10, Ok, We're going to give an

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easy intermediate throw.
Oh here that's going to get for

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26 yards.
So we are set up in good

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position that's when I hear
that, that's what I feel.

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Like Brad is saying if we take
that shot on first, we feel that

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Grant can get us with a good
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range.
Yeah, and you know, we talked

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about it when we had read
ciancia from pits pick six

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previews on here, that looking
at last year's offensive metrics

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You know, we had a lot of big
plays but in the middle of that,

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we didn't do a whole lot of in
the past.

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Okay.
So if we weren't going for 30

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yards, plus we probably weren't
moving the ball at all.

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Nope, and that's something that
I think is going to change with

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this new offense and with this
new coaching staff and with

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Grant Wells pulling the trigger
is that short and intermediate

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accuracy and routes that attack
the middle of the defense.

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It's in routes.
Then attack the short

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intermediate area is outside,
the hash marks.

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I think that's where we're going
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difference and that's going to
get the quarterback more

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comfortable with that's going to
make the defense creep up where

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you can take those shots more
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abso-freakin'-lutely.
Last piece I want to mention

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about something I noticed here
in the Brad.

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Brad Callen interview.
He had talked about with Devin

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Farrell Taj Bullock.
He had not been focused on those

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guys.
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And basically kind of said, when
you're trying to find who you're

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starting QB, is, that's my
focus, not not getting in there.

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Developing the young guys.
But now he mentioned how with

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this happening, it's almost he
can start focusing figuring out

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who's third team, who scout team
and, you know, talked about

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probably getting to see more of
their reps is the sense I got

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from it.
So now I think really, as we get

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into, you know, for five months
from now, if someone leaves,

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there's that clear indicator
because Glenn got more of a

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chance to actually work with
them to see.

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And give his opinion versus
really what's been going on

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since January.
Yeah.

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And some of this and my mindset
is that when he's saying that

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he's saying that, you know, when
he's out there in practice, you

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know, he's obviously paying
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what he's not doing, he's not
going back to the tape after

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practice and meticulously going
through their, their reps during

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practice to see.
All right, what's the difference

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between him and him?
He's not East on that aspect yet

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he's focused.
He was focused more on.

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You know, is it going to be
Grant Wells or Jason Brown and

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now that he's gotten that he can
devote a little bit more of that

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time that last week after the
starter was named this week

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during my game week, seeing who?
That that third guy is going to

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be working with them to, you
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more up to speed in terms of,
you know, where their

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deficiencies are in the offense.
So they are a little bit more.

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Paired as we head into the
season and then, you know, Tha

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have that talk with the scout
team guy and say, hey you're

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going to make us better every
week by giving us a hundred and

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ten percent against that
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So that's when those
conversations are happening.

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Abso-freakin'-lutely.
So, quarterback decision made so

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less to worry about going into
the ODU game.

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That Grant Wells is the starter.
I know a lot of people want to

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Grant to start because of that
three years you've got to got

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three years.
Get to learn the system, a lot

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better, I let slip it over.
Let's let's go, let's go down a

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little bit because kind of the
next news kind of sucks few

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weeks ago.
You know, we had the panel on

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here and David Cunningham had
been mentioning dalen, right?

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Couple times.
Well, if you didn't see,

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downright posted on his
Instagram.

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Few days ago, season-ending
surgery, we do not know what

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specifically it was from the
look of it.

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I'm assuming the lower extremity
injury because the picture was

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Him from about his midsection
up, I know.

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This is a guy you've been home
with, you know, basketball

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player didn't focus on football
and really that, senior season

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really turned it on.
And obviously, this is this

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hurts to death because he was a
guy that was battling probably

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for fourth or fifth, it's fine.
Yeah.

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He was definitely kind of a guy
that you were to look at it at

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45 position.
They're probably you know five

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and he was going to see
significant time this year, the

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way it was lining up for him.
So that's a big blow for us.

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I think that there are some
other guys in that room, that

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can step up and take on that
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But when you have a guy that's
already kind of poised to take

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that role and you lose him
during fall Camp, that's always

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a big blow.
So it may take two three weeks

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into the season.
Before we really have that role

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that fifth spot, kind of ironed
out and fleshed out to where we

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want it to be.
Absolutely.

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Now, another big hit and it was
kind of confirmed with the team

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photo will Stewart.
TSL pointed it out, Malachi

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Thomas, has the walking boot on
one of his feet there.

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For Enterprise, been saying he's
week to week.

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We, I see that.
And I know I've said it to a

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couple people.
I'm like, it's got to Hank all

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the way they're talking about it
not a me usually a high ankle.

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It's going to be week to week.
Some guys can take a high ankle

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get back in three or four weeks
some guys and take six to eight

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but hat, not having him in the
way it looks.

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He's not going to be do to you
not having him.

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For ODU does hurt the Russian
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the offense.
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And I'd rather I'd rather not
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West Virginia.
But you know, obviously I'd

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rather have him on the field.
You know, it's gonna you know

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look like we're going to be
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then we've got obviously Keshawn
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year.
We got chance black that's going

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to do stuff out of the back
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Probably a lot the passing game,
so there's guys behind him but

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you know obviously Thomas I
think had the highest upside

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heading into this season because
he I think he was already

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probably ahead of where Holston
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get even better from there.
So, you know, hopefully we'll

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get him back sooner rather than
later.

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I'm hoping at least West
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UNC at the absolute latest but
hopefully back sometime in

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September if we can sooner the
better for him.

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You mentioned wholesome.
Olsen was nicked, he did not

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practice Friday but it's one of
those things where that was

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precautionary is what everybody
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Like if this was a game day, he
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But when you're number one run,
Or you're 18 option is out.

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Don't let the one B option get
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I mean, don't let the one being.
If there's a question mark, hold

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about keeping keeping ready to
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Keep him fresh, make sure
whatever it is gets full

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treatment and full rest and
bringing back, you know,

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practicing this week for for my
game.

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We yeah another person who had
been out for a couple weeks.

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Jaden blue you know was advised
is going to be back soon.

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I think he was out there in a
non-blue contact, but not doing

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drills.
Oddly similar to Holston you've

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lost Dallin, right?
Who could be your 45 and you've

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got, you know, you've got
Lofton, you've got Caleb,

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obviously, doing big things,
it's again, I could see that as

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a whole situation.
Hey, he could play today, he's

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our number three or he's our 2
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He's a guy that's going to be on
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This is a practice.
Yeah, just yeah, we don't all

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have got we got three receivers
that we know are kind of Feel

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Like A Step Above kind of where
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So and he's one of those three.
So you don't want to risk having

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one of those three guys, you
know, aggravating something

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that's more of a nagging thing
and it turns into a bigger

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thing.
So, you know, hold him out, get

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him ready.
Like I said, I think it seems

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like he's gonna be back
practicing this week at some

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point.
So, you know, we'll see how how

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that goes.
But at least it seems like we

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avoided another potential
catastrophe there in a room that

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That has a lot of question
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In a room, we could not avoid
catastrophe and then we had to

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avoid catastrophe, an excuse me,
can I take it to a tree

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sometimes?
Alright, another couple rooms

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that got hit kalai, Lawson out,
one to two weeks stinks because

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he is such an athletic freak.
Not having him on the field but

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it is a room with a lot of
people.

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A lot of people probably going
to get playing time to good to

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hear.
Hopefully one to two weeks, you

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could see his His knee was the
knee area was wrapped in the

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photo and Benji, guys.
Nail another room that's deep.

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He's being evaluated.
I do not think I had not seen

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anything being reported on him
yet.

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Obviously, you'll have media
tomorrow, so be paying close

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attention to that, you know?
I would say it sucks more for

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collide than Benji, because
binge, he's going to be fighting

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multiple guys to get on the
field.

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This year, after already coming
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So that's my opinion sucks for
collide more than anybody.

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Yeah, I think Benji was at a
point where he was going to get

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some reps this year, but I'm
pretty sure he was going to be a

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red shirt player.
Whereas Daquan, right is is

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fighting for spots on the depth
chart for the for the full

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season there.
And and he kind of understand

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that even unless Benji was going
out there and completely lighten

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it up and was Head and Shoulders
above.

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Any other young guys you want to
Redshirt him coming off an

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injury like that.
So yeah I think that was always

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the plan for him.
Anyway we'll see if this has any

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impact on those four games at.
He would have had some some

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playing time in you know, Lawson
I think is the big, is the

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bigger one at least in the short
term that is a position where we

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have pretty good depth.
And obviously he's not the

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Frontline player at that
position but he is a guy that

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was going to see significant
number of snaps.

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I believe just from his skill
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that.
I think that that was going to

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get him on the field even if
it's just a pass rush type role

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in the in the 2022 season, he
was going to see some snaps so

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hopefully he can get back out
there as soon as possible so we

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can get him some of that action.
Absolutely, if anything catalyze

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a big chest, Peace that they we
know he was getting work.

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It will, he was getting work at
Sam can move around off the S

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such an athlete and obviously go
back to special teams to a guy

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660.
We've seen those box jumps.

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I hope you can come back and get
some PT be used on special

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teams.
All right, let's flip it.

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There's been some talk obviously
last week about position battles

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and I think left guard, I think
it is a war.

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Or going on right there between
Hanson and more because you

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know, it's been said by coach
Brent pry, bring l'amour's going

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to get playing time this year.
Said it, you know, and then he's

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going to get some PT week.
One said, yeah, it's a PT week

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one and then we're starting to
hear six or seven.

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The used to be just six.
Now we're starting to hear that

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seven number which I know makes
me and you both feel

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significantly better on that
offensive line.

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Absolutely.
Yeah, that and that's going to

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be big and I think that left
guard, I said it on the

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timeline.
I think we tweeted out earlier

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this week or in the last week.
Eek, you know, a guy like

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Braylon more winning that job,
only raises the floor and the

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ceiling for the offensive line
this year.

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Because, you know, we knew that
coming in, I was like, okay well

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who's it going to be is going to
be Jesse handsome at that spot,

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you know, and we were pretty
content with Jesse Hanson

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holding that down.
Yep.

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The fact that brayla more seems
to be kind of approaching that

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level already.
It really only having switched

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positions, you know, late late
in the spring.

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That's big for a true freshman
coming in and he's only going to

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get better from here.
So that like I said, that's

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going to raise the floor in the
ceiling for this offensive lines

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potential this year and it helps
the depth because now you got a

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guy like handsome that is, he
doesn't have a whole lot of Game

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wraps.
But he's a guy that has been a

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power five lineman for a while,
has shown some potential that's

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going to improve your depth and
obviously we were somewhat

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comfortable with him as a
starter as we were moving from

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Spring and fall.
Absolutely that.

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Again that's only going to help
that depth are now we're just

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looking for that that one or two
tackles to kind of Step into the

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kind of fill out this this
eight-man rotation That you want

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to be really be comfortable with
your offensive line.

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I'm hoping that's a guy like
Xavier Chaplin or Johnny Garrett

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somebody, you know.
Yeah, absolutely.

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Hopefully one of those guys as
prize mentioned, maybe it's not

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the beginning but maybe by the
time we hit October getting

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those reps in practice.
Working with Scout teams getting

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in finally.
Click, OK, we can now trust this

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guy to play tackle as for the
rest of the season.

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So somebody Down as much depth
as we have.

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A lot of the linebacker is just
fun this year between between my

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quill and saying, man, I mean,
you got Keller last week,

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running with Dax Jason, Keller,
running with the ones and then

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there's mentioning that there
are certain sense where

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Tisdale's running with the
threes on will but he's running

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one's own Mike.
Sometimes you're playing some

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Mike I mean that room is just
it's Lee, I would say that is

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our most talented room top to
bottom in every aspect.

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Whether it be the mental aspect,
the athletic aspect, the

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versatility aspect, definitely
on defense, I'll definitely give

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you that on defense.
I can make argument for tight in

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on offense but definitely on
defense.

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I'm good with you there and yeah
Keller running with the ones is

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great news because just like I
was talking about with more and

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Hanson If you've got a guy
beating out him in trench

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starter, that's only raising the
floor in the ceiling of that

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potential that linebacker spot
right there.

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Yes.
And when you couple that with

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the mixing and matching of
moving Tisdale into mic on some

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sets and running with Keller,
that's improving your

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athleticism at the position
because now you're taking a guy

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that has the athleticism to play
Will and now you're moving into

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Mike Keller still running that
will spot.

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I mean, that's raising the bar
across the Lord, I feel like,

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you know, we'll see if that
translates to better play on the

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field.
Obviously, we haven't seen

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enough at this point to really
make that judgment, and we've

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only seen it in inter-squad
scrimmages.

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So, you know, we'll see if that
translates into wins, but I

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think that's definitely raising
the potential for that room.

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Both on the, like I said, from a
florist and point in the ceiling

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standpoint, 100%.
I cannot wait to see that unit

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play this season under Prime.
Marv because I do think we're

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going to see a significant step.
Alright, let's talk about D end.

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So it maybe I heard this wrong
so I know you listen to it too.

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Call Nelson.
And McRae are pushing starters.

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What Wei Zhang Who the hell's
opposite of garbage?

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I thought they were fighting
for.

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That spot.
Is it?

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Is it Jay Griff?
Is it somebody else?

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Because either way it's a good
thing, it's a good thing to hear

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those two young guys and once
again, it's bronze philosophy.

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Now that we're talking about
these, you know, basically

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freshmen sophomores pushing for
PT the whole group goes up.

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Yeah, I think that's the big
thing and I'm not sure if he was

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meaning, you know, they were
pushing the play level, that

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Garbutt was bringing to the
table, whether they were

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referencing Griffin.
In this situation.

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As being the entrenched starter
at the position or what the

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situation would be, obviously
Griffin was probably You know,

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the third-best DN that we had
last season.

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So if you're just, you know,
moving that into the current

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roster now that you've got bar
know, in the NFL then that would

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kind of be considered the
entrenched starters there, so.

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But I think the big thing for me
is McCrea.

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McRae coming on in McRae being
at least pushing for starting,

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if not, you know, fully in the
too deep at this point, I think

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is a great thing for this
defense.

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You know, no offense to Eli
Adams.

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I like the craze size and speed
combination a lot better than I

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do.
What Adams brings to the table?

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I think Adams is a good, you
know, 3D player.

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He's a guy that he's played
enough reps.

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Now where you can put him out
there, a handful of snaps of

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game and he can get stuff done
for you.

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He's not the guy that I want out
there for a whole series or for

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multiple series back to back.
Absolutely.

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So again the more you hear the
young guys named the the better

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you feel not only about this
season but the future because I

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do believe this staff would be
pushing.

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Whoever the best player is not
necessarily seniority.

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I was I was hoping we hear
something cornerback to is still

447
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,600
a mystery between Chapman and
Marie.

448
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:42,400
Hopefully we get some info in
the next couple days.

449
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,100
Either way, I think again, both
guys have a lot of playing time

450
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:49,400
out there.
You kind of feel comfortable

451
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,900
with either one of them, you
know, they both, they both can

452
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:55,100
be good players.
They both have their flaws as

453
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:58,000
compared to their door in strong
who is just seemingly.

454
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,800
I think they've said it a couple
times just consistent consistent

455
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,900
consistent.
Yeah I think that's the thing

456
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:08,600
we've seen you know Chapman have
good plays in Bad plays, we've

457
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:14,500
seen Marie Marie, seems to be
more matchup dependent in terms

458
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:18,600
of his play whereas Chapman.
It is more like truly

459
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,100
inconsistent at times, but I
think Chapman in terms of just

460
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:25,300
pure coverage is the better
option there.

461
00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:30,000
But, you know, does he have
those?

462
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:35,700
Is he able to do enough?
And be consistent with it in

463
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:38,500
order to keep Marie off the
field at that corner back to I'm

464
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:42,200
hoping so I think Marie is a
good rotational type cornerback

465
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,400
I don't know if he's a guy that
I want out there for long

466
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:51,300
stretches of time at cornerback
to so you know and hopefully

467
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:53,200
that room can stay healthy
because I feel like there's some

468
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,200
potential in that room.
I think you got some players

469
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,500
there.
We just need to make sure that

470
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:02,300
those front front line.
Two guys, Chapman and strong,

471
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000
hold up, and play.
Well and consistent.

472
00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:08,100
Absolutely.
All right, last piece we're in

473
00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:10,500
about position battles.
We had already talked about ride

474
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:12,300
receiver, four and five and a
half gallon, right?

475
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:15,300
Would be pushing for that and
then he goes down.

476
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:20,700
Jaden blue goes down and it was
a couple guys getting a lot of

477
00:28:20,708 --> 00:28:24,800
compliments and Stephen Gosnell
and Christian Moss had been

478
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,600
stepping up lately.
Again you love to hear it.

479
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,600
The transfer from UNC and they
you know redshirt freshman

480
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,700
getting praise from the Coaches.
And, you know, is it just the

481
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:38,800
same old coach speak?
Maybe, maybe we don't see them a

482
00:28:38,808 --> 00:28:44,200
game this year.
But again, names are getting

483
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,100
mentioned in that.
Always is a big thing.

484
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:51,600
Yeah, Gosnell Mall stepping up.
You know, we've heard of Keshawn

485
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,000
King is now getting some touches
that slot and flankers.

486
00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,600
So that's that's pretty big as
well that we're finally finally

487
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:06,500
Using that actual position
flexibility to our advantage in

488
00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:10,400
getting guys, touches and Reps
in practice at places that they

489
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,800
can be a weapon on the field.
So, that's good to hear.

490
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:20,000
And we've heard obviously
there's a lot of Buzz about

491
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,800
Daquan, right?
I know, I'm, I'm singing the

492
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,100
Praises a lot, and I'm going to
keep singing them until I'm

493
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:28,800
born, 18 months with a 14-month
love affair with daikon, right?

494
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,500
And it's until I see something
that tells me otherwise.

495
00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:34,900
As I'm going to keep helping
this kid up because nothing I've

496
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:39,200
heard has shaken me off.
What I saw on tape and what I've

497
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,700
seen otherwise, so I'm going to
keep riding it.

498
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:48,800
I think he's a guy that's going
to help us in kind of that joker

499
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,700
tight in position.
And also a guy that could be

500
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:54,800
doing some of the type of things
that Bucky Hodges did for us,

501
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,300
you know, when he was here out
the gate and then we'll see how

502
00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:04,500
he Transitions into that that
full-time tight enroll as his

503
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:07,300
career goes along.
But He's got potential to do

504
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,900
some tight end duties, some wide
receiver duties in year one.

505
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:15,700
And I think he's going to be a
guy that right out the gate is

506
00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:17,900
going to be playing
significance.

507
00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:19,900
Nets for us on the offense in
your one.

508
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,700
I think I think you're right
especially with some folks

509
00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:27,000
getting hurt and obviously the
way you have seen Tyler Boeing

510
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,700
used tight ends.
I think it's very likely that he

511
00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:33,400
he doesn't, he plays me.
Before and he gets that shirt

512
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,300
burned.
Let's talk about this.

513
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:41,600
Kind of last piece of current
going on with the tech team or

514
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,300
something related to Tech in
that is the ODU offensive

515
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:49,100
coordinator.
Dave, had a nude resigned three

516
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:52,000
weeks before the kickoff of the
game.

517
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,500
Dave, Pat nude had previously
last three seasons been down at

518
00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:02,500
Georgia, Tech with Jeff Collins.
Obviously we saw Them last year.

519
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:06,100
One down there.
Also, you something I can

520
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:08,900
remember two years ago.
Brian, you talking about Georgia

521
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:12,000
Tech and they were kind of a
power smash offense.

522
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,400
So going down to Ricky Ronnie
that makes sense.

523
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,700
But when you've had the guy,
who's been in the quarterbacks a

524
00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:21,600
year, who's been calling the
please who's been designing, and

525
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:27,300
he's gone.
I mean, I'm not complaining but

526
00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:35,200
that is a uphill climb even more
for For ODU versus what

527
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200
seemingly Brent price trying to
get to be an angry Virginia Tech

528
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,400
Team.
Yeah.

529
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,300
I mean now you've got Ricky
Ronnie everywhere.

530
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,700
Essentially three hats at least
in the short term, right?

531
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:50,200
So he's now the head coach.
He's the de facto offensive

532
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,600
coordinator and he's now the de
facto quarterbacks coach, that's

533
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,400
a big fucking deal, right?
You two weeks before three weeks

534
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,100
before the season, whatever it
was when he Uptown and I mean, I

535
00:32:03,108 --> 00:32:05,200
don't want to speculate too much
but I've heard this might have

536
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,100
been a similar to the Oklahoma
situation, but oh, really?

537
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,600
That's the Whispers.
I am hearing it is not a public

538
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,100
situation so I will not
elaborate further.

539
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:20,600
But yeah.
Okay.

540
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:25,800
But it's over to you so it
doesn't get quite the sprout.

541
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:31,700
A lot of Nationals ODU, it's not
going to get the run as it would

542
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:36,400
somewhere else.
So again for us to me, it's even

543
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,200
more.
So for someone like Tyler

544
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,600
bowing, if he's and Brent, it's
Ricky Ronnie's brain.

545
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,500
Now, it's not days.
Brain, its Ricky Ronnie's brain.

546
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:46,500
So that's a big thing.
It's going to be really

547
00:32:46,500 --> 00:32:50,400
interesting to see.
How they look?

548
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,500
I'll pensively that night.
All right, let's flip this one

549
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:57,900
because this is one that sort of
got some people riled up.

550
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,300
Yes, the next 10 years.
The out of conference schedule

551
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:07,900
is not pretty even less.
Pretty would be why you going

552
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:14,400
off the schedule.
Just so, if you haven't seen it,

553
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:19,000
David Cunningham, put this out
there back about August 17th.

554
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,200
Next year.
ODU, Purdue at Rutgers at

555
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,800
Marshall.
First of all, a trucker's at

556
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,400
Marshall, we need to quit doing
that.

557
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,700
I know we talked about it.
The panel's got to be stopped

558
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,500
20:24.
Write this one down at

559
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:35,200
Vanderbilt Marshall at ODU.
Again, we've got to stop it in

560
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,100
Rutgers 2025.
Finally, we get a Chick-fil-A

561
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:42,900
kick off with South Carolina
down in Atlanta van dod, ujm,

562
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:49,900
you I mean, Arizona Wisconsin's
on the schedule and like 80, I

563
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:59,200
mean, It doesn't start looking
decent again until 2030. 2030

564
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,100
and even then it's not
necessarily blowing your skirt

565
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:06,500
up.
It's just hey, it's good enough,

566
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:08,699
it's good enough.
What's the point that you've

567
00:34:08,699 --> 00:34:11,800
made?
Several times big guy, why did

568
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,900
we get such big games in the
2002 2010's?

569
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:18,500
Why are we getting Ohio State?
Why are we getting Alabama?

570
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:22,500
Why are we getting USC?
It's that whole well, there are

571
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:26,500
top 20 team.
So if we lose to them, it's not

572
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:30,100
the end of the world.
If we beat them it's a resume

573
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:37,500
checkmark for us and and what's
happened really since 2012 and

574
00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:43,199
over the last 10 years, we've
had to really yet.

575
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,600
We are getting close map to next
Friday.

576
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:49,100
Yes, yes, it's getting there.
We've had.

577
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:53,800
One really good season to okay
Seasons.

578
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,900
Bunch of mediocre season to ship
seasons.

579
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,900
And your big teams do not want
to play you.

580
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:03,800
When that is your track record,
you have to start lower and

581
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,500
that's where we are.
Right now, we are bad enough.

582
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:12,200
We're beating us doesn't help
them and we're not, we're just

583
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,100
good enough.
We're losing to us, hurts them

584
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:16,700
pretty bad.
Exactly.

585
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,600
There's a risk to losing to us.
So that's why no one wants to

586
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,000
play there.
We're just risky enough, where

587
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,900
it's a, it's a, it's a bad loss
and we're, we're not helping

588
00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:29,600
them.
If they go come down here and

589
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,900
waxes.
So more bodies nobody wants to

590
00:35:33,908 --> 00:35:39,700
place right now, exactly more of
this Story is win more games and

591
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:43,100
you become more attractive.
When you win more games, you get

592
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:45,100
to tell Marshall 02, you know,
we're never coming to your

593
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,900
place, you will always come
here.

594
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,600
You always drive here.
We're never coming to your

595
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,700
place.
Yeah, I'm kind of sick of the

596
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:57,100
driving at ODU and driving to
Lynchburg, like we grew up in

597
00:35:57,100 --> 00:35:59,000
our from Lynchburg, we go to
fucking Lynchburg, and I don't

598
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:05,700
want to, I want to play the
fucking game, they're all right.

599
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,000
All right, so obviously end of
last week.

600
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,500
Brian, the Big Ten multi Network
deal.

601
00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:18,900
Rolls out seven billion over
seven years with an option to go

602
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:22,300
up to 10 depending on if they
add additional teams, I'm sure

603
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:24,500
there's some contract language
in there about what additional

604
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:28,200
teams, they would need to add to
get to that 10 million roughly.

605
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,800
You do the math.
It's a billion dollars a year

606
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,600
with the 16 Team league.
It's roughly probably right

607
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,100
about 70 million.
And then obviously on top of

608
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:39,400
some other Deals.
They have you're looking at

609
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,900
probably close to 80 to 90
million per team.

610
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:46,200
The most interesting piece is
ESPN is shut out completely.

611
00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:48,600
Right.
Yep.

612
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,100
And they're going to be having a
big game at 12.

613
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:56,100
A big game at 3:30 on CBS in a
big night game on NBC.

614
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,000
Can we be one of the teams that
you know, gets added to this?

615
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:10,200
Because that is a ton of money
and in reality, I think what's

616
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,900
going to happen quickly and
you're going to see it, you're

617
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:18,000
going to have basically.
Five teams are going to get

618
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,900
those slots consistently.
It's going to be Ohio State.

619
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:24,100
It's going to be Michigan.
It's going to be Penn State.

620
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:26,800
It's going to be Wisconsin.
And then maybe you can say six

621
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:32,900
with At Michigan State, that's
it Rutgers, Rutgers, Maryland

622
00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:37,400
will never be on the 330, it CBS
or the moon, or the 7:30 night

623
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,000
game, they will be moved to
Peacock or Big Ten Network.

624
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:46,200
They're getting flexed out.
Did the did the size of the deal

625
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,800
and then how it broke down shock
you in any way.

626
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:52,900
I'd say how it broke down,
didn't shock me as much as the

627
00:37:52,900 --> 00:37:55,100
size.
I think the size is I think a

628
00:37:55,107 --> 00:37:58,400
little bit more than what we
thought was going to be coming.

629
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:05,700
Good for them and I think, you
know, obviously adding the

630
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:10,200
team's they're adding is only
helping that it's helping their

631
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:17,400
negotiation on that side of
things. but, I think how it's

632
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,500
structured is good for them.
And I think they kind of made

633
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:27,100
the play of Hey, this could lure
Notre Dame, this could lure.

634
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:29,000
Some of the other Pac-12
markets.

635
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,700
If we decide to go higher, go
go, you know aim towards 20s?

636
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:37,300
I think they're looking.
I think they're looking a little

637
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:44,500
bit forward in this deal as well
but I think at the same time I

638
00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:48,000
don't think anything in this
deal is moving the needle for

639
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,400
Notre Dame.
And I think that's, that's

640
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,900
still, that's still the biggest
domino to fall before.

641
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:57,900
I think some bigger things start
happening, long term.

642
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:01,600
Yeah.
You know, big things right now

643
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,900
is, you know, I was told you to
Dad conversation, it's looking

644
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:08,200
like, more or less for the ACC
to break up, you're looking at

645
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,000
75%, there's not 75 percent of
teens who's going to get offered

646
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,400
elsewhere.
So, it's a pipe dream for the

647
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,600
ACC to disband and for
potentially land in the SEC or

648
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,000
potentially, the Big Ten.
And let's grant of rights are

649
00:39:22,008 --> 00:39:25,400
broken or there's some other
Other factors that come into

650
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,400
play, but in that thing, there's
going to have to be a legal

651
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,200
challenge first.
If there's a legal challenge,

652
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,800
then all bets are off especially
if that legal challenges is

653
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,600
successful, but I think barring
a legal challenge for good or

654
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,800
ill.
We're riding with the ACC for a

655
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,500
while.
Yeah, only upside now is, and

656
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:52,300
you mentioned this, a few weeks
ago, ESPN had money set aside

657
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:57,200
for this, right?
Yeah, how much can the ACC get

658
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,400
out of it?
How much additional can they get

659
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,400
out of it to basically go from
38 million?

660
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:08,500
I think it will 36.7 this year
to that 45 50 million where

661
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:12,000
you're still behind, but you're
not as far behind.

662
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:15,300
So how much can they get out of
it?

663
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:18,500
Or does ESPN take the money and
put it back somewhere else?

664
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:21,200
And obviously SEC is going to
get more in a few years.

665
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,500
But can the ACC or the Big 12
Pride additional money out of

666
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:31,800
ESPN because now, ACC is going
to probably get better slots.

667
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,700
Right between could at least
work and more consistent slots.

668
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:39,700
Yeah, we're consistent slot
because you've always got ABC

669
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:44,000
ESPN ESPN2, then you get into
the SP and you and then the

670
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,500
Network's themselves.
So, is it something where, you

671
00:40:48,508 --> 00:40:52,600
know, the ABCs get an ABC game
versus the ESPN2 game of the

672
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,600
ACC, networking plenty games to
go around for all for all

673
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,800
parties involved.
You know?

674
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:02,300
Sixteen fourteen teams roughly,
that's seven games a week.

675
00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:07,700
So hopefully, Just better, slots
showing increased viewers, but

676
00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:09,500
we'll see.
I think the problem we're

677
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:11,400
seeing.
I think in, I mean, I looked at

678
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,200
some of the, the numbers in
terms of like most-watched,

679
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:19,200
Teams with the with the, with
the highest ratings.

680
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,900
Virginia Tech got hurt a lot
last year with ACC fucking

681
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:25,300
Network.
Fuck them.

682
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:29,700
Fuck you put you put definitely
the biggest game of the two

683
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:34,300
biggest games of the year on
there by putting Notre Dame and

684
00:41:34,300 --> 00:41:37,500
putting my any another.
That's the thing we're trying to

685
00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:41,200
lure people in but when you're
not getting Nielsen ratings,

686
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,700
where you can say, Hey, listen,
we played Notre Dame like that

687
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:46,200
ABC game a few years ago, I
think it was like 4.1.

688
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:50,700
One are pretty good number for a
Saturday night game, and now

689
00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:55,000
you're putting that game on the
SEC network that doesn't get

690
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,700
rated.
So, you don't know how many

691
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:58,500
people are actually doing that
game.

692
00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:03,300
That's where, you know, if
you're, if you're Jim Phillips,

693
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:06,100
the one thing you better be
slinging is saying you're going

694
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:09,200
to put our crap games on there.
You're not putting FSU on there,

695
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,000
you're not putting Clemson.
You're not putting Miami, not

696
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,300
putting Tech.
You're not putting Carolina,

697
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:15,500
you're not putting state.
You put waking pit on there.

698
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:20,100
The you don't put the teams that
draw eyes to our conference.

699
00:42:22,300 --> 00:42:23,900
That's--yeah that's-- and
that's--.

700
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:25,200
That's the rate.
They're right.

701
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,700
That mean, and I agree 100% with
Curtis on that getting us on a

702
00:42:29,707 --> 00:42:31,600
sec Network.
Especially those Marquee games

703
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,500
that are going to draw eyes.
You know, we were still dealing

704
00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:40,500
with situation where so many in
the primary Market didn't have

705
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:42,500
her in terms of coverage, didn't
have it.

706
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:50,000
It is, there are so many TVs in
the state of Virginia in parts

707
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,400
of Maryland that are Atlantic
jority, majority Comcast homes.

708
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:59,300
Well, basically thing about this
it's really Pennsylvania down in

709
00:42:59,308 --> 00:43:02,700
the South Carolina I've got
family in South Carolina.

710
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:06,300
They have Comcast.
So, I mean, North Carolina is

711
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:10,000
chartered Charter primarily but
I mean, yeah, once you get back

712
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,700
into South Carolina, Xfinity
picks back in there.

713
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:14,900
So big, big, big Morgan, this
type.

714
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:18,900
So we'll get a just stop that or
I can go for trust me.

715
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:21,700
Y'all don't get to hear the Rams
beforehand when Brian.

716
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:24,200
These are the these are the
filter drancy.

717
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,700
The are ones that have been, you
know, we've trimmed them down.

718
00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:32,600
We focused on well, over the
last Last few weeks Brian.

719
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,900
We did not talk about this last
week because we had such a two

720
00:43:35,900 --> 00:43:40,100
weeks ago, we had our panel on
but hope he's got another commit

721
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:44,300
Hokies currently.
Sending 36 composite 33, 24/7,

722
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:50,700
young man out of Ontario,
Canada, Ishmael Finn later, 64

723
00:43:50,700 --> 00:43:57,000
230, low 3, star has kind of
some views from Arizona state

724
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,100
with Central Michigan, Have you
had a chance where there any

725
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:03,700
tape out there on this guy from
Canada?

726
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,700
Yeah, there's there's some tape
out there and I mean you know,

727
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:13,100
I'm not trying to sell a false
bill of goods here but the tape

728
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:18,400
is better than the ranking but
it's still not a needle mover if

729
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,700
that makes sense.
He's an 82.

730
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,200
He said I'm going to hit him.
I'd say if I was going 24/7 I'd

731
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,300
be like 83-84.
I mean solid but But

732
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:34,500
unspectacular, but I think the
size and and things is what

733
00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:37,800
standing out, and I think that's
the thing that could be molded

734
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,600
into something better down the
road, but this is definitely a

735
00:44:40,607 --> 00:44:43,500
developmental type player.
It's not somebody that's going

736
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:47,500
to jump off the page or move any
needle in terms of recruiting

737
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:51,400
perception, 64 230.
You can't, you know, that's that

738
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,500
is a great body for a defensive
end.

739
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:57,100
And I felt like he camped with
us.

740
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,600
Let me see.
I feel like he camped with us

741
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:07,600
and they probably measure the
variables somewhere.

742
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,700
I'm pretty.
I think he did camp, and they

743
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:13,500
did say his measurables were
verified select like legit, and

744
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:16,700
that's probably why they offered
him later as we're getting into

745
00:45:16,700 --> 00:45:18,600
this cycle.
You know, we've got currently

746
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,600
18, I think we get a lot more.
They showed the senior picture,

747
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,200
and I think I counted 48 guys on
scholarship seniors, this year,

748
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,000
I think we're targeting 26.
He seven guys, this year.

749
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,600
So thing quite a number.
Yeah, I think that number and

750
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,600
you kind of leave yourself a
little wiggle room for a

751
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,200
potential transfer.
If a couple more guys, transfer

752
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,900
out larger transfer classes.
So again, got one more guy there

753
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:44,100
in the boat, good to hear that.
All right.

754
00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:48,000
So before we get into our main
topic of giving y'all are

755
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,500
predictions for this season, we
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Now back to the episode All
right, so we did this last year.

766
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:22,800
It's a lot of fun to do fun
exercise.

767
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,200
Everybody out there and we've
already had a couple people put

768
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,400
their records up for the year.
Feel free to chime in will show

769
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,700
them at the end, but we are
going to go game by game records

770
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:40,300
for this season.
Now, there is a disclaimer These

771
00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:46,200
are our ceilings.
Okay, this is our ceilings And

772
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,400
we want to put that out there in
case someone so y'all.

773
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,300
So they wouldn't engage.
Oh that's our ceiling.

774
00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:54,000
That's we're basically saying
nobody gets hurt Malachi Thomas

775
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,600
is their game 1.
Kalaallisut is their game 1 and

776
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,200
we have the most unbelievable.
Football, season injury-wise in

777
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,700
the history of football.
And a couple things.

778
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:07,900
Bounce our way and key games.
There you go.

779
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:11,600
So, no further.
Again, we're going to get into a

780
00:47:11,607 --> 00:47:14,200
lot more detail.
With last week, we've been

781
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,800
reading and studying and prize
been looking at some tape

782
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,500
already, but let's start with
ODU, Brian.

783
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:24,500
What do you say there?
For me, this is Virginia Tech

784
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:28,300
all the way.
I know I said it on the panel, I

785
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:31,000
think we need to go out there
and crush them make this a over

786
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,600
by halftime situation.
I think this is our chance to

787
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,700
send a message that this team is
not only better than what a lot

788
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:44,600
of folks out there thinking they
are.

789
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,000
But sending a message in terms
of the state, this is our state

790
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,000
again.
We should even be in Norfolk for

791
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,700
this fucking game, but since we
made the trip, we're going to

792
00:47:57,700 --> 00:47:59,300
get an ass whoopin while we're
down there.

793
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:02,300
Yeah, but before we head home,
we're going to get one in before

794
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:04,800
you head home.
And I'm me Broader lockstep with

795
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,600
this one.
I am fully Virginia Tech on this

796
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,200
one.
They need to make the statement.

797
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:13,200
They need to make, and I set it
on a pan, I'll say it again.

798
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,300
They need to make that
Hundred-Foot walk back to ODU

799
00:48:16,300 --> 00:48:19,100
locker room.
The most miserable walk of those

800
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:23,800
kids lives and that they never
want to see maroon and orange

801
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,300
come back to that field.
Again, to the point where the

802
00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:30,500
Ada has to cancel the series.
And I think there's some guys on

803
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:36,300
this team from going from 20.
From 2018 who played going down

804
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:38,300
there, probably with a bitter
taste in their mouth.

805
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:41,300
So I really like that.
So I'm definitely going to be

806
00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:43,800
going VT.
Takes one out the gate.

807
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,300
We will be previewing this game
next week.

808
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:52,700
Alright, Bronn first home game
for Brent Pride night game.

809
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:57,100
Unfortunately, on the ACC
Network, I get the ACC Network.

810
00:48:57,100 --> 00:49:01,500
Luckily, yeah, you throw your
hands up its PC so it's not the

811
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:05,000
big one although that game last.
last year Friday pulled almost 2

812
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:10,200
billion people on a frickin
Friday night in mid-october so

813
00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:15,100
maybe it should be moved to a
different network and maybe it

814
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:20,000
will but that stuff pretty said
but anyway This is one of those

815
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,900
tougher ones in.
As I was going through it, they

816
00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:27,000
got Djokovic going back half Li
second year.

817
00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:31,500
They lost a lot of Their Own
Line, but I'm sitting here and

818
00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:35,400
just thinking of that atmosphere
that's going to be there in lane

819
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,400
and I know you will be there.
Bought us tickets this week did

820
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,000
calendar cleared out, so mr.
Siegel will definitely be there,

821
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,200
but the, the atmosphere the
electricity in the air a night

822
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,500
game, which means people are
going to be getting out to the

823
00:49:51,500 --> 00:49:54,400
parking, lots 7:00 8:00 in the
morning.

824
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,900
Going all day.
I think taking when this will

825
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:01,200
comfortably, when I say
comfortably, I'm talking to

826
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,700
scores at the end, something,
when I get there, I'll say it,

827
00:50:04,700 --> 00:50:09,600
but I think Tech wins this one
comfortably but not so

828
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,500
comfortable.
We're not like saying in the

829
00:50:11,508 --> 00:50:13,900
fourth quarter, put two more
touchdowns on it because I don't

830
00:50:13,900 --> 00:50:18,300
want anything stupid to happen.
Yeah, I'm not feeling quite as

831
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:21,600
comfortable as you are about
this in terms of the Gap in the

832
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,600
score, but I definitely think we
can pull this one out.

833
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:28,300
My thing is, is that that
Offensive line is banged up,

834
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:32,900
it's still early in the season,
they lost a lot of players from

835
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:36,500
last year's team.
I think this attacking Brent

836
00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:41,400
Pride defense will get after
jerkin Vic early and I think

837
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,400
that's the difference.
It was the difference when we

838
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,900
played in 2020.
Yep.

839
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:49,200
When we forced a bunch of
turnovers early, absolute going

840
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,100
to be something similar.
I don't know if we'll get quite

841
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:54,200
the bounces from those turnovers
that we got then, but I think we

842
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,300
put enough pressure on them
early where we hold on for it

843
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,100
abso-freakin'-lutely.
Alright, Braun.

844
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:11,100
We just say this one, the
Whopper game Virginia Tech and

845
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:16,900
in the words of Don, be 50
Burger, 50 smash them crush

846
00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:18,200
them.
I won't 60.

847
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,200
I will, I won't, you know what,
Frank Beamer always kind of a

848
00:51:22,207 --> 00:51:23,700
nice guy.
Wouldn't run up the score.

849
00:51:24,300 --> 00:51:27,500
I hope Britt prai has a little
more but in him and it's like,

850
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:29,400
56.
Nothing in the third quarter,

851
00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:33,600
I'm trying to get to 70.
I want a squirrel stop these

852
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:37,700
guys.
I'll pull my starters but I'm

853
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:40,200
still running my offense.
Exactly.

854
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,400
I am trying to continue, I'll
pull my starters but I'm still

855
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,800
sending six on third down and
long.

856
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,800
So let's do a check-in 3 and 0
through the first three games,

857
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,300
where we optimistic.
Well, it's pretty seasoned if

858
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:58,100
you're not optimistic, that's
the rough fan life you have

859
00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:00,600
there, got to be a bitch or
something.

860
00:52:00,900 --> 00:52:04,800
All right, so big one, Thursday
night, Right.

861
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,800
Blacksburg West Virginia, Black
Diamond Trophy and I think

862
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:13,900
someone said it's like going to
be the 30th or maybe the 25th

863
00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:15,800
anniversary.
It's going to be an anniversary

864
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,600
of the first Thursday night
game.

865
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,300
Virginia Tech ever hosted so
big, you're already people are

866
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:27,600
already talking about going in
taking a full weekend that the

867
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,300
BC game was electric, this one's
going to get downright obnoxious

868
00:52:31,300 --> 00:52:35,700
and insane because I always go
back.

869
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:41,200
Go find it was it 2,000?
The Andre Davis three touchdown

870
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,200
game, three different ways in
the Wayne board block.

871
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,300
Jesus, I think they seriously
have a chance to get Fowler on

872
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:53,700
this one and with West Virginia,
in their back in being so bad,

873
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:55,100
and I know we're going to look
more in detail.

874
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:58,800
A lot of these games and
learning a new offense and going

875
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:04,500
to sort of to a true are a and
they're going to be four games

876
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:08,600
in only three games in.
I'm going to say we take the

877
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,700
diamond trophy back here Braun.
I'm actually with you and I'm

878
00:53:13,700 --> 00:53:16,200
basing it on a few things.
I'm basing it on the The fact

879
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,600
that, you know, we were this
damn close literally to taking

880
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,300
it back at their house last
year, like, four times that

881
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:28,800
close one time for ya and ya.
I know they got JT Daniel, but

882
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,400
they haven't named a starter
yet.

883
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,400
This is pretty late.
I don't know if they're playing

884
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,200
games with ship with pit on this
or what they're doing at games

885
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,800
at nine days, they better.
But they have they have not been

886
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:45,000
able to starter yet, so if if
that's for real reasons and not

887
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,700
for gamesmanship, Ship.
That's got to be concerning

888
00:53:47,700 --> 00:53:50,000
because I think they were
leaning pretty heavy on Daniels

889
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,800
being the guy.
So if he's not actually went out

890
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:56,900
there and won that job, that's
got to be concerning.

891
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,300
And then you just couple that
with what they lost in the

892
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:02,300
secondary and the transfer
portal.

893
00:54:03,100 --> 00:54:05,300
I think there's a lot of
opportunities to score more

894
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:08,500
points this year, on them.
Yeah, and I think if we can do

895
00:54:08,500 --> 00:54:11,800
that, I don't have any
confidence that they're going to

896
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,200
be significantly better on
offense.

897
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,700
Nah, so I think I think we're
able to pull it out.

898
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:19,400
We're at home.
It's a night game.

899
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:21,900
It's in Lane.
It's that attersee here.

900
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,800
It's Thursday.
I think there's just there's too

901
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,700
much.
I think lining up against them

902
00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:31,700
both historically and on the
field that I think we can pull

903
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:34,600
that one out with you.
All right, Brian.

904
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:40,700
So next game again, this is kind
of big Meaning of The Gauntlet

905
00:54:40,700 --> 00:54:44,800
with West, Virginia, game,
travel down to North Carolina.

906
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:48,300
The next Saturday, what are you
feeling on this one?

907
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,700
This one I've got, I've got UNC
pulling it out.

908
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,900
I know they've got a lot of
question marks at quarterback.

909
00:54:57,900 --> 00:55:02,300
They just named their starter
May is took that job correctly.

910
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:05,000
Yeah.
I think that's, that's probably

911
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,500
what we expected heading into
the season.

912
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:10,000
I think he was kind of I think
the guy that was going to be the

913
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,300
next man up he's one that job I
think I mean he's a quality

914
00:55:14,300 --> 00:55:20,000
player kind of a bid for Star
type Talent you know I think

915
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,300
they get things going a little
bit better on offense.

916
00:55:22,300 --> 00:55:26,800
I think they're improved enough.
On defense.

917
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,600
And we're not playing in
Blacksburg on opening night with

918
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,700
that atmosphere.
So I think you don't get the

919
00:55:34,700 --> 00:55:38,700
Boost that we saw last year from
that.

920
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,400
So I think they add you doubt.
I think it's a close one.

921
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,800
I hate picking UNC.
I don't think.

922
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,900
I think anybody that's listen to
me on this show understands my

923
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:59,100
level of hatred for UNC so but
There's enough factors there

924
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:02,000
that are unknown for us and
enough factors for them that

925
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:05,000
work in their favor.
It's hard for me to in good

926
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,900
conscience, not pick them.
So, that's where I'm at.

927
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,500
Well, whether it's bad,
conscience, maroon glasses,

928
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:13,600
whatever.
I'm picking Tech in this game.

929
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,400
And I think it is because of
Drake May being a first year

930
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,200
stronger.
Yep, that'll be his fourth game.

931
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,600
But right now they're getting
into true, freshman is running

932
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,700
backs.
No one has really come out.

933
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:28,100
Other than Josh Downs.
At the receiver room.

934
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,000
The offensive line has continued
to have struggles.

935
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,700
The defense at game that we
always talked about it.

936
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:37,700
I can remember being on here
almost a year ago talking about

937
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:39,800
if we just had some decent
frickin offensive play calls.

938
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,500
We could have hung over 30 on
that defense last year without

939
00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:45,900
breathing and I don't think
they're going to take that big

940
00:56:45,900 --> 00:56:49,200
of a step under chizik.
I think they are what they are.

941
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:54,700
And when you're going from that,
245 to a base for three Lot of

942
00:56:54,700 --> 00:56:56,400
Things Different.
You talk about guys putting

943
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,800
their hands in the dirt not as
confusing schemes.

944
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,700
So I think that's where we go
and I think take pulls this one

945
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:06,900
out and I think it's going to
probably be because of a Young

946
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:09,900
quarterback.
Probably truly facing his first

947
00:57:11,700 --> 00:57:16,100
defense that is going to just
attack and attack and attack and

948
00:57:16,100 --> 00:57:20,500
not pull anything back you know
because you know let's take a

949
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,500
Look real quick just so I can
feel better about myself.

950
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,500
They've got Notre Dame the week
before.

951
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:37,600
Then they had its their FAMU
Appalachian State, which they

952
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,400
could be, that they could lose
that game.

953
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,500
And they can lose to towards.
They could come in one and

954
00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:45,300
three.
And I think if you do that to a

955
00:57:45,300 --> 00:57:48,500
Young quarterback, it will be
shattered and then have a

956
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:52,600
defense is ready to feast and
let's just go history.

957
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,200
They're foreign, what's four and
14?

958
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,600
Since they've started playing
this every year since 2004.

959
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:06,200
Yeah, I'd we are historically
very good against them, all

960
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,800
right.
Even in the evening down years,

961
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,700
we play UNC.
Well, we do.

962
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:14,000
And if we just started the right
quarterback in 2020, we had to

963
00:58:14,008 --> 00:58:16,800
beat them then to.
Yes, we would have, yes, we

964
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,200
would have in that shootout.
All right.

965
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,700
So I'm at 5 and 0 and you're at
four and one, am I going to do

966
00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:25,500
something stupid?
He's on the stupid here.

967
00:58:25,700 --> 00:58:32,300
Are you tell me?
All right, so the next game is

968
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:35,000
at wonderful.
What used to be called Heinz

969
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:40,500
Field in the 8,000.
People that occupy it for the

970
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:45,300
worst home atmosphere.
Oh, am I being real?

971
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,600
The worst home atmosphere?
Yeah, it's awful college sports,

972
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:55,000
the Pitt Panthers, And for the
first time I do pick against our

973
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,600
Hokies, I think 80 atmosphere is
one thing.

974
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:02,600
If you're going into a hostile
environment and Carolina can get

975
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,200
a little loud, it's louder and
petal ever be.

976
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,300
You can get up a little bit so
it's going to, you're going to

977
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:11,200
go there, it's not going to be
laughs.

978
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,600
I'm gonna be raucous and they
have just a really good

979
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,500
defensive line and I think with
the questions we have on our

980
00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:20,900
offensive line, at this point
we're five games in, you

981
00:59:20,900 --> 00:59:23,300
probably got some Nicks and
bumps maybe some backups

982
00:59:23,300 --> 00:59:27,200
playing.
I do think this one write this

983
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,800
down and I'll hope I'm hoping my
prediction is when we get there

984
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,900
exactly like it.
I think it's going to be an

985
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:37,100
ugly.
Absolute Freaking this fight.

986
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,800
It's not gonna be a bunch of
guns.

987
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,000
It's going to be a fist fight in
the trenches, and it's going to

988
00:59:41,008 --> 00:59:44,900
get ugly.
And I do think the Hokies will

989
00:59:44,900 --> 00:59:49,900
hang, but I just think that
defense will get us in the end.

990
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:53,800
Yeah, I mean whether aside I
think it's going to be almost

991
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,600
like an opposite of what we saw
when we were at that at Budds

992
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,000
last game in 2019, it's going to
be kind of that that tight

993
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:07,300
asshole game ball and I think,
unfortunately because the pitch

994
01:00:07,300 --> 01:00:11,500
trenches, they are more
experienced in the trenches than

995
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:13,800
we are, especially on the
defensive line.

996
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,400
Think they've got enough on the
back end, to keep us honest and

997
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,800
I think they're going to end up
pulling the wind there, but I

998
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,500
don't, I don't think they're
going to run away with it.

999
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:26,300
This isn't going to be those
ugly pit.

1000
01:00:26,300 --> 01:00:30,800
Blowouts that we've seen in
recent memory last year and back

1001
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,700
in 1828, seven.
And what 56:23 something like

1002
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:37,000
that.
Yeah I think this is going to be

1003
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,900
a lot more of a truth back
street brawl.

1004
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:46,500
All right, let's flip next run.
We've got Miami coming into

1005
01:00:46,500 --> 01:00:49,500
town.
It's going to be a crisp October

1006
01:00:49,500 --> 01:00:53,700
day mid-october.
Miami.

1007
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:55,300
Highly ranked most people
picking them, the wind, the

1008
01:00:55,300 --> 01:00:58,500
coastal Van Dyke, getting a ton
of Love.

1009
01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:01,200
Crystal ball, getting a tunnel
of their recruiting flying off.

1010
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,200
Looks like they're about to get
a new state in which I really

1011
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,600
hope they do put a stadium
closer to where the campus is

1012
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:09,800
the Orange Bowl.
We've talked with divide big

1013
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,600
man, loved playing their love
beating them there.

1014
01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:16,500
I hope they get something that's
similar to that because that had

1015
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:18,400
a great atmosphere.
I can remember watching those

1016
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,100
games when we were younger, but
let's flip this one in

1017
01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:23,100
Blacksburg.
What do you Say on this one

1018
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:27,000
brand.
Love is in Blacksburg but I hate

1019
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,100
that.
It's a team that I think finally

1020
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:34,800
has found the leadership to go
with the recruiting that they've

1021
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:39,600
been doing, you know really I
mean for a long time, right?

1022
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:42,000
They've always had players.
They've always had dudes.

1023
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,500
I think they finally got the
right combination of Coach.

1024
01:01:45,500 --> 01:01:49,200
Again I think this is going to
be the team.

1025
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,800
That's going to be the measuring
stick along with Clemson for

1026
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,300
Virginia Tech success going
forward.

1027
01:01:54,500 --> 01:01:56,800
Forward.
I don't think we win this one,

1028
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,300
but I think this is a game that
if we can kind of stick around

1029
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:05,200
and hang around and make it ugly
and stick there with it, to the

1030
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,100
end, that's going to say,
something about this team and

1031
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:10,300
kind of put us in a good footing
going forward.

1032
01:02:10,300 --> 01:02:12,900
But I don't think we have the,
the horses to win this one.

1033
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,100
Yeah, and I mentioned on the
panel last, we could, you know,

1034
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:21,700
with this game if you beat them,
great, I can't see us doing

1035
01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:23,900
that, not right now.
They do have a lot of talent

1036
01:02:23,900 --> 01:02:27,300
like you said.
The crystal ball leadership, a

1037
01:02:27,300 --> 01:02:32,400
good quarterback, they have the
talent there to beat us, but

1038
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:36,100
it's the measuring stick game.
If you get in there and you make

1039
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:40,300
it a war for four quarters and
even if they beat you, everybody

1040
01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:43,400
looks at you again, right?
Well, this team is supposed to

1041
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,100
be rebuilding and they're
already.

1042
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,700
They're fighting one of the best
in the conference to the end.

1043
01:02:47,700 --> 01:02:51,100
And they're forcing them to
barely get a squeaker on the

1044
01:02:51,107 --> 01:02:53,300
road.
That's what it is to me.

1045
01:02:53,300 --> 01:02:56,600
Miami wins the game.
Game but this is the game that

1046
01:02:56,600 --> 01:03:01,500
if you tell me, you know, six
months or four months from now

1047
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:04,600
we're talking about the game of
the year, it's to me it could be

1048
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:07,500
this one.
All right.

1049
01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:11,000
So then we get a bye week on the
week of the 22nd.

1050
01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:15,400
And when we get a trip down to
Raleigh on a Thursday night.

1051
01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:19,800
ESPN, another Thursday night
game with NC State.

1052
01:03:21,300 --> 01:03:25,800
I hope people don't hate me for
this, but it's NC State and some

1053
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,900
people like nothing.
Remember of, for always painful

1054
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:33,500
enough for remember that game
and that we could not get above

1055
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:36,200
13 points.
I know they had a good defense.

1056
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,100
But I think this year they're
just too balanced and so.

1057
01:03:41,100 --> 01:03:44,500
So think about the losses so
far, I have probably the best

1058
01:03:44,500 --> 01:03:46,400
defense.
We're going to play, probably

1059
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,800
the best offense, we're going to
play and probably the best

1060
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,700
balanced team.
We're going to play with

1061
01:03:50,700 --> 01:03:52,500
offensive weapons.
Good on defense.

1062
01:03:52,500 --> 01:03:56,500
I think we drop in Sea State.
I don't think this will be a

1063
01:03:56,508 --> 01:03:59,100
measure stick game.
I think it will be a good game.

1064
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,900
Just knowing David orange style
and Brent price style.

1065
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,400
But I think because they are
loaded with a lot of Older

1066
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:07,600
folks.
Good quarterback.

1067
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,000
I think they do get us.
Yeah, I agree with you.

1068
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,100
I think, I think they definitely
take us down.

1069
01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:16,200
I don't think it's a blowout,
but I do think it's one of those

1070
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,600
games where NC State probably
handles us, start to finish.

1071
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,000
It kind of keeps us at arm's,
length, start to finish, just

1072
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,000
because of their bounds.
Like you said, I think they've

1073
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,900
got a really good defense,
especially in the trenches and

1074
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:34,700
they have weapons on offense,
especially the guy that's

1075
01:04:34,700 --> 01:04:36,200
pulling the trigger at
quarterback.

1076
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:39,300
I think that's just going to be
a little too much for us to

1077
01:04:39,300 --> 01:04:42,300
overcome.
I think that's a game where if

1078
01:04:42,300 --> 01:04:44,300
we want to have the potential to
win that game.

1079
01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:50,100
We've got a strike early, get
ahead, get a lead and make them

1080
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:52,600
have to get out of their game
plan.

1081
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:54,700
And I don't think we're able to
do that.

1082
01:04:54,700 --> 01:04:55,800
So I think that's why we're
going to.

1083
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:58,400
We're going to lose that one.
Yeah, I think with the NC State

1084
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,200
game as not compared to the
Pittsburgh or Miami game.

1085
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:06,400
I think the pit NC State game.
We have to play our best a

1086
01:05:06,408 --> 01:05:09,800
football game.
I think that, you know, can we

1087
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,200
can we beat Miami and pit?
Yeah, I don't think we can.

1088
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,800
I don't think we have to play
our best football games, those

1089
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,200
games to pull wins.
NC State's just to balance to

1090
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:21,400
not be on and every facet.
All right, Braun.

1091
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,400
So you're the four-game losing
streak.

1092
01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:28,500
I'm at a three-game losing
streak and the first week,

1093
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:31,100
November 5th.
Remember, remember the fifth of

1094
01:05:31,100 --> 01:05:34,200
November Georgia Tech roles in
Tulane Stadium.

1095
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:40,400
What do you think on this one?
I think that they're about to

1096
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:43,600
look like the cat's V for
Vendetta killed on.

1097
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:48,600
Yeah, I think Georgia Tech some
get wax this game.

1098
01:05:48,700 --> 01:05:53,600
I think Jeff Collins is going to
already have his pants Ablaze

1099
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:57,300
from that Hot Seat by this point
in the season and this is going

1100
01:05:57,300 --> 01:06:02,500
to maybe be the one that pushes
them over the edge and we get a

1101
01:06:02,500 --> 01:06:06,100
mid-november firing like we had
with with went a last year.

1102
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:10,000
So Yeah, Ron takes GT.
I'm right there.

1103
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,700
That that place is a train wreck
right now.

1104
01:06:12,700 --> 01:06:17,800
So many guys leaving.
What was it that some of the

1105
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,400
classes from three years ago
aren't even in there too deep?

1106
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,700
That's that's bad.
That's yeah.

1107
01:06:24,700 --> 01:06:28,700
I mean that's bad evaluation and
then development.

1108
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,100
They're not developing and add
to that.

1109
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:35,000
Like at some point.
They, you know, you had that you

1110
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,600
had the height recruiting
classes.

1111
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,500
And now, none of those guys are
playing.

1112
01:06:38,900 --> 01:06:41,500
They're going with the guys that
were playing a Transformer.

1113
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:47,300
So yeah, I think that's a That's
a big one.

1114
01:06:47,300 --> 01:06:50,700
I think, I think, I think with
you that we smash them, I think

1115
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:52,300
we smash them.
I think that's an ugly game.

1116
01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:56,200
I think after a losing streak
to, I think we make it.

1117
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,000
We make an example out of them,
and if he's not fired before,

1118
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:03,900
then he will be after that game.
All right, 11:12, the next week,

1119
01:07:03,900 --> 01:07:06,700
we go down to Duke, where I know
there is going to probably be

1120
01:07:06,700 --> 01:07:09,700
anywhere between 20 and 30
orange.

1121
01:07:09,700 --> 01:07:14,500
And maroon fans down there
because it is officially Lane

1122
01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:21,100
Stadium South when it comes to
the games, due to the rebuild.

1123
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:25,900
Do you know, they're essentially
where Georgia Tech's going to be

1124
01:07:25,900 --> 01:07:29,000
next year.
They don't have a lot Elko

1125
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:34,000
slowly trying to build it and
think about the team, I mean, we

1126
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,500
play our best game of the year,
against them last year, six and

1127
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:40,400
six and blew them out by 30.
It wasn't even a game.

1128
01:07:40,700 --> 01:07:45,000
So I think, you know,
back-to-back wins after a rough

1129
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,000
stretch.
Tech easily takes care of do on

1130
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,100
the road.
Yeah, I agree.

1131
01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:54,300
And I think arguably the roster
is worse this year than it was

1132
01:07:54,300 --> 01:07:57,500
last year.
Even though I think Elko is the

1133
01:07:57,500 --> 01:08:00,500
guy and I think elk is the guy
that will get them at least back

1134
01:08:00,500 --> 01:08:08,300
to respectability these, if not,
you know, the highs that we saw

1135
01:08:08,300 --> 01:08:11,700
during cut Cliffs rain there,
but I think he'll at least get

1136
01:08:11,700 --> 01:08:13,600
them back to respectability, but
this isn't the year.

1137
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:16,100
He doesn't have the horses.
Like I said, it's a word.

1138
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,600
It's roster top to bottom than
it was last year.

1139
01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:21,300
And I think that was that is
Georgia Tech's.

1140
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,800
Not as bad as I was saying what
I'm saying, relative to their

1141
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:29,800
roster.
Yeah, yeah.

1142
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,200
So I think, I think Virginia
Tech handles us when I think

1143
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,500
that's good, good back-to-back
wins there to kind of set them

1144
01:08:36,500 --> 01:08:39,000
up for that.
Stretch, run in Virginia.

1145
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,399
Absolutely two games in.
Virginia, on the 19th of

1146
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:49,200
November, the Hokies, Travel
down 462 Lynchburg,

1147
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:51,300
unfortunately, to play the
Liberty Flames.

1148
01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:53,200
There you go.
Put them up.

1149
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,200
Why are we playing this game on
the road?

1150
01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:59,399
I also as much as we're going to
have down at Duke, I think.

1151
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,700
What's the size of that Stadium?
I've watched a couple games,

1152
01:09:03,700 --> 01:09:07,000
they don't sell out.
They might have, I want to say

1153
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,000
it's a 35 or 40 thousand seat
stadium.

1154
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,100
And they might have 15 or 20 in
there.

1155
01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:15,000
I mean it's bigger than ODU, but
not by much, but not by much.

1156
01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:20,800
Alright, I gotta, I gotta effort
this before you go, you go.

1157
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,100
What do you think?
I will go.

1158
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:28,500
I will go while you're efforting
I hate to say this, but this is

1159
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:35,700
a seven and five team last year
that lost 75% of their offensive

1160
01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:38,899
production.
I do not care how good Charlie

1161
01:09:38,899 --> 01:09:42,100
Brewer is he is not replacing
that production?

1162
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,700
No, he's then, I think and I
think if any pleased that

1163
01:09:46,700 --> 01:09:51,800
November That yeah, that too
Charlie Brooker.

1164
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:56,000
Probably is not making it to
November to even play in this

1165
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,800
game.
But if he does, he's not Malik

1166
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,600
Willis, he does not get it done.
Hokies take care of business in

1167
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,300
Lynchburg and we set up for the
Commonwealth cup.

1168
01:10:06,300 --> 01:10:09,300
The next week.
I'm with you 25,000 seat

1169
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:10,900
Stadium.
I've seen it a couple times.

1170
01:10:10,900 --> 01:10:13,200
It's probably 15 to 18 thousand
there.

1171
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:17,100
I have a feeling that will be a
lot of orange and maroon on the

1172
01:10:17,100 --> 01:10:20,000
road as well.
I'm going to pick the Hokies and

1173
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,000
I am hoping as I hope with the
ODU game and I hope with the

1174
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,500
wall for game and is Don be
eloquently put in where I think

1175
01:10:26,500 --> 01:10:32,900
everybody on that panel, agreed
squash them, squash them, squash

1176
01:10:32,900 --> 01:10:37,000
them, make them not want to
break curfew on Saturday night,

1177
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:42,700
at Liberty, foot on the throat.
But on throat, just smash.

1178
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,200
And again Charlie Brooker.
Yeah he played last year.

1179
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,200
He quit on his team.
Charlie Brewer has like ten

1180
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:50,700
concussions Charlie.
Brew is not making it to

1181
01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:55,700
November and for god sakes I
agree.

1182
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,900
Like if you're if you're a coach
like you were going to send you

1183
01:10:59,900 --> 01:11:02,600
out there knowing if this kid
takes one more bad head, he's

1184
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,800
not going to be able to have
kids or even communicate.

1185
01:11:05,900 --> 01:11:09,800
By the time he's in his mid-30s
You can't have that many

1186
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,100
concussions Jesus.
Alright?

1187
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:19,100
So Commonwealth cut Braun.
I am, I'm leaving here and this

1188
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:24,100
is all I'm going to say in the
last 22 years.

1189
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:31,200
One team has won. 21 team is 12.
It's mental tech.

1190
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:36,400
Wins.
I'm right there with you.

1191
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,300
I think I think Ted can pull
this one out.

1192
01:11:38,300 --> 01:11:42,500
I think, when you look at This
offense.

1193
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,900
I think they are still going to
be one-dimensional.

1194
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:52,200
I think they probably have one
of the five best wide receiver

1195
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,400
cores.
And you couple that with their

1196
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,200
quarterback, a top-15 passing
offense.

1197
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:05,400
But I don't think that that is
going to equate to enough to

1198
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,700
compensate for their lack of
running game.

1199
01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,700
It's not going to compensate for
their lack of offensive line,

1200
01:12:10,700 --> 01:12:12,100
death.
Depth and its really gonna

1201
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:16,000
compensate for their poor
defense, especially the

1202
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,600
secondary.
They still can't get enough pass

1203
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,400
rush to cover that big-ass flaw.
That's going to be the

1204
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:26,200
difference in the game.
Well yeah, I'm and I'm going to

1205
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,700
give a little more insight.
It's the the o-line, they

1206
01:12:29,700 --> 01:12:32,300
literally lost a couple of their
bus offensive linemen.

1207
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,700
They lost some of their best
coaches on the offensive side of

1208
01:12:35,700 --> 01:12:40,800
the ball and as good as Brennan
as good as that core is, he's

1209
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,500
okay.
Shit knocked out a lot this

1210
01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:45,000
year.
And I can already see Brent Pro

1211
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,200
basically, say, I'm gonna
probably send six or seven and

1212
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,100
you're going to have to get rid
of that ball really quick, or

1213
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:51,200
you're going to get hit even
more.

1214
01:12:52,100 --> 01:12:57,600
And, as bad as that defense was
last year, I don't think it's an

1215
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,000
overnight fix.
I don't think a coach comes in

1216
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:05,100
and hits the magic button and
goes from being 129th to being

1217
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:09,300
in the 70s where you can be
respectable, it does it work

1218
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:12,900
like that?
Not Without talent and they are

1219
01:13:12,900 --> 01:13:15,400
deprived of Talent on the
defensive side of the ball.

1220
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,700
So I picked Tech wins this one
as well as I said earlier.

1221
01:13:19,900 --> 01:13:22,100
So Brian, let's tally it up
here.

1222
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:26,600
How many you got what you got?
I'm going to even for ceiling

1223
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:31,300
for the Hokies in 2022.
I'm at 9:00 and 3:00 what a

1224
01:13:31,308 --> 01:13:33,800
shocker.
I'm back at 93 again, as the

1225
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:40,000
ceiling, Nice Shot, not shocked.
Next we get a lesson, I will

1226
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,000
always is As much as I love
coaching staff has gone three

1227
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,900
games last year that could
easily turn the right way.

1228
01:13:46,900 --> 01:13:51,100
It would have been 9 and 3 so it
is what it is.

1229
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,400
But listen, y'all.
So these are our ceilings, but,

1230
01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:58,000
let's just be very honest.
There is a floor.

1231
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,700
We specially with this team with
the death, and we are not

1232
01:14:01,700 --> 01:14:05,100
foolish and Brian.
I'm going to since we're

1233
01:14:05,100 --> 01:14:07,500
matching on this, I'm gonna let
you make a statement on behalf

1234
01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:09,800
of the boundary Corner podcast
hour.

1235
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,700
Floor for this team because this
is mine as well as Brian's.

1236
01:14:14,700 --> 01:14:16,800
Yeah.
The the floor for this team is

1237
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,800
five and seven.
I don't see us going below.

1238
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,800
Five wins.
I think there's just enough.

1239
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:28,500
Winnable games on our schedule
and we don't travel enough to

1240
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:32,100
really feel like this is an
awful team.

1241
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:35,000
This is a team that even with
some injuries can just fall off

1242
01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:37,800
the map.
You know, when we talk about the

1243
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:42,100
games that are amenable All on
paper out, the gate you're

1244
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:45,400
looking at ODU, you're looking
at Wofford, you know, you're

1245
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,600
looking at Duke and Georgia
Tech.

1246
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:51,500
Liberty is a very winnable game
when you look at games that are

1247
01:14:51,500 --> 01:14:55,300
kind of in that toss-up category
you've got BC, you got West

1248
01:14:55,300 --> 01:15:00,700
Virginia, you got UVA piss you
and see, you can throw pin and

1249
01:15:00,700 --> 01:15:03,000
you would see that conversation
as well.

1250
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:06,300
But I think, in terms of true
toss-ups, I think that those

1251
01:15:06,300 --> 01:15:08,500
those games are still in that
category.

1252
01:15:08,500 --> 01:15:12,400
So you got The roughly seven
games that are either toss-up,

1253
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,600
so you're going to be favored.
I think we at least get five of

1254
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,200
those even with some of the
flaws of this team and even with

1255
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:24,200
some things like injuries
impacting this roster as the

1256
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:26,400
season goes along, that's the
way to sum it up.

1257
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:31,500
Injuries again, if this team
stays clean injury-wise, and

1258
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:35,700
when I say clean injury-wise, a
guy can miss a week, okay?

1259
01:15:35,700 --> 01:15:37,100
We can, we can live with that
guy.

1260
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:40,000
Missing a month on certain
aspects.

1261
01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:45,400
We cannot William McCallum out
there orange significant injury,

1262
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:50,700
going eight, and for stealing
947, who that floor of seven.

1263
01:15:50,700 --> 01:15:54,700
I've hoped to get to say that
next year and I get to go like

1264
01:15:54,700 --> 01:15:58,800
ceiling of 10 or 11.
And next year, I'll be maybe a

1265
01:15:58,808 --> 01:16:02,800
little bit more tanked up, but
when you're when you're talking

1266
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:06,100
floor of seven, you're talking
about being confident a team

1267
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:09,800
number one, winning all of the
matchups, they should win number

1268
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,500
two.
Probably at least splitting the

1269
01:16:11,500 --> 01:16:15,000
toss-ups number 3.
Probably at least punching up in

1270
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,500
one game, right?
And one game.

1271
01:16:16,500 --> 01:16:17,700
Yep.
I don't know if we're quite

1272
01:16:17,700 --> 01:16:21,200
there yet, but I mean, I
appreciate the optimism at this

1273
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,700
point, you know?
I think if you're not optimistic

1274
01:16:25,700 --> 01:16:29,500
in in August, you're not going
to be optimistic at all.

1275
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,600
So, if you're not optimistic in
August here either, let's think

1276
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:38,800
like a temple fan Jets fan Jags
fan.

1277
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:45,400
Who else Texans?
You're a fan of a team where

1278
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,400
it's just like, we want a good
draft pick or can just see, I'm

1279
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:52,400
just watching because I need a
reason, you're a Duke football

1280
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:58,900
fan, I need a reason to drink on
Saturdays and football games on

1281
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,300
and we're losing, it makes me
drink more, I mean that happens.

1282
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:07,800
It happens front, anything
broken in the last hour and 20

1283
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:11,900
minutes, nothing, That's popped
across my timeline buddy.

1284
01:17:11,900 --> 01:17:15,000
I think we're good to to wrap it
on up and all right.

1285
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:18,100
Well that is going to wrap up
this episode of The Boundary

1286
01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:20,700
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1287
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,200
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1288
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,900
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1289
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01:17:55,400 --> 01:18:00,100
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1306
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01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:31,000
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1308
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,400
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1309
01:18:33,407 --> 01:18:36,700
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1310
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,800
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1311
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