Road to the Draft

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast, I am Curtis

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Wilson, I'm Brian Siegel buddy.
We live on a Wednesday night how

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you feeling back on hump day
things had to be moved around a

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couple weeks ago for David
Cunningham.

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We went to a Thursday but we are
back in our regular slot and we

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got a big lineup tonight, Brian.
Yeah, we're talking spring game

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later.
Giving it a little preview of

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that.
But before we get there, We got

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a big guest on tonight.
Defensive tackle for the Hokies

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we got none other than Jordan
Williams.

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I'm gonna go ahead and bring him
on here.

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Jordan, how you doing tonight?
Doing good.

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Are you guys doing doing real
good?

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Doing real good tonight, man?
It's Wednesday back after the

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week is here, spring game week.
Bryan's head down.

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We know you're back in the
Burgh.

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Already management all over the
country to last few days.

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But you know, Jordan, let's
start here, man.

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You went to cots High School
down in Virginia Beach.

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Tell us a little about your
about a bit about your

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background there and kind of
lets go back to 2016.

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It was some talk about your
initial recruitment because I

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mean you are four-star, top 150
player, I mean what 30-plus

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offers this oh man so give us
But on that.

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Yeah, I mean recruitment was
definitely wild for me.

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I didn't really have like early
you like as early as recruiting

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as a lot of the other bigger
name players in the state of

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Virginia.
But for me, I just kind of just

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kept working and kept producing
kept going to cams kept doing

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stuff like that for me after a
while.

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It kind of just all, they all
started piling up and I had a

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lot of Great Schools, a lot of
in-state school that wanted me

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to stay home.
A lot of big, big time

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conference school, a lot of
big-time programs offered me a

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scholarship.
So for me, It was just, it was

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pretty hectic, you know, I was
talking a lot over with my

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family and it for me,
ultimately, it came down for

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schools which were Clemson,
Virginia, Tech UVA and

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Tennessee.
And for me, I just, just after

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all, a lot of thinking, and a
lot of prayer and talk to my

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family and things like that as
if we just felt as, if Clemson

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was the best all-around choice
for me.

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So I decided to go to Clemson
for 4 years.

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Had a great career there had
Verbal career.

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They're made a lot of made, a
lot of great, Long Live

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Brothers, all types of stuff,
man.

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And then, transferred to
Virginia Tech from my last year.

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And now I'm still, I'm living
the rest of the story.

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Now, there we go.
There we go.

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Sounds like that's a, that was
a, it was a big process for you.

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Who was the first like, first
school to kind of reach out to

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you and really show you some
love.

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My first, my first offer was
Marilyn and I remember I wanted

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to Marilyn camps and I got
offered at the second one

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because I know like a lot of
guys that but got recruited in

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high school.
There's like the camps that

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everybody goes to and then
there's the in my cams that they

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yeah they do.
So I was there with a lot of

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other big time recruiting guys
and for me it was just kind of

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like I kind of just encounter
was a moment for me where I was

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like I'm one of these guys now.
You know what I mean?

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Like I went from wanting to be a
highly recruited guy to be in a

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highly recruited guy.
So for me, I got Maryland.

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And then ironically coach Pride.
Franklin.

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No guys.
At Penn State all from me,

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second.
Okay.

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And it's okay that my
recruitment kind of just blew

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up.
It was just, it was phone calls

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every week letters, visits all
types of stuff.

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So it kind of kind of happen
fast for me.

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So, there's the Camp's you pay
for and then there's the even

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like a, we we talked about that
last year.

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I know.
I kind of mentioned it.

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How many total offers?
Do you remember getting like oh

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I want to say I might have had
close to 50 like High 40s.

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Maybe and I right in assuming
everywhere west coast East Coast

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north-south.
Yeah, Westco.

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I had a couple West Coast
offers.

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I didn't think I was really
gonna get any because, you know.

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Yeah, it's hard for a guy to
pack up from the east coast and

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move all the way out west, you
know what I mean?

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So, but I still had a handful of
West Coast offers and things

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like that.
But yeah, it was bunch of

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conferences, bunch of different
programs.

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It was hectic.
I bet, I mean, it's kind of

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crazy that you got schools east
to west that was kind of just

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sending sending you stuff and
trying to get you to come out to

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the cans and right, see what
it's all about.

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So you get all these offers the
I know you touched on a little

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bit but what really set Clemson
apart from the rest of that

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group.
For me they were just real

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people like Clemson like dry
recruiting a lot of programs

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that they'll tell you, you're
going to come in and be a

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starter day one or you're going
to come in you're going to be

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the man and things like that and
really Basically when you're

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when you're hearing those things
it's like yeah that's what you

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want to hear.
But just being a realist with

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yourself like a college coaches,
telling you as a 16 17 year old

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kid that you're going to come in
and take a potentially a 23 24

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year, olds players position, you
know what I mean?

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But for me, Clemson never
really, they never promised me

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anything and they told me that I
was gonna have to work for

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everything, they were genuine
people, we had a genuine

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relationship and for me, it kind
of just it felt real.

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So for me, that's Kind of what
set them apart from everybody

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else.
Um I'm going to ask because you

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mentioned your final four was VT
your number 2.

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BT was my number two, so
Virginia Tech, definitely was my

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second option.
It was one that I kind of It

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kind of made things harder, you
know, being being home in

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Virginia and then going to South
Carolina, it kind of made things

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tough.
But for me, like going into

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recruiting staying home, wasn't
ever really a big part of

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recruiting.
Like it definitely played a role

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but it wasn't like my deciding
factor but it was definitely

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tough.
Going to go.

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What six and a half hours from
Virginia Beach to Clemson.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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Oh definitely.
For sure.

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And like you said, getting
recruited by so many people you

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know, you gotta you gotta kind
of find that fit for it for you.

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I mean you know.
Okay, so you get enrolled were

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you in early enrollee or I
wasn't how enrolled in the

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summer camp, became wrong
summer.

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So all right, get enrolled.
You get there in the summer.

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What was the culture of the team
in the field of community down

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there, in Western South
Carolina?

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Because I think you wouldn't 16,
they were just off the national

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championship, right?
I got this pain that just came

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off a national championship and
for me like, I got there and the

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older guys just kind of took me
in and, and then maybe one of

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their own, you know, they
accepted me.

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They invited me places.
Invited me to come work out.

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Invited me to watch film with
him and then just get a part of

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like, the actual team because
like, there's As a commission

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period, of course, I freshmen
come in and they're working out

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with each other and then we
first get into like our real

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full team like workout setting,
it just made it real clear that

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like why Clemson was the type of
program.

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They are like it's a team that
that that's really player lay

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like the players, like they're
the ones that are then telling

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guys to come in and watch them,
they're the ones that are having

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extra work out.
As they're the ones that are

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setting up, all these things for
guys to get better and gain more

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knowledge, that for me, Like
being a Freshman being excited,

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being eager to just learn
everything, is something that

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you kind of just, you just get
on board with, you know what I

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mean?
Yes, I got to get you kind of

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like a sponge and soak it all in
and try and definitely

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definitely for right.
Yeah.

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And when you hear about like the
player led stuff, I mean that's

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culture because that really
instills, you know, the Juniors

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and seniors are telling you guys
as freshmen and sophomores.

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Take tape.
Let's go get a workout in.

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Let's let's hang out.
And then as you get older it's

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probably trigger.
Like now I'm going to tell these

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guys, and exactly, that's
something that's That's

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something that's hard to get in
programs, man.

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It's hard to build, you got to
instill it from the top down,

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everybody's got to be on board
and Rowing in the same

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direction, right?
Most definitely.

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So when you re Clemson, your
position coach was tied Bates,

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right?
Mmm.

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Correct.
So we'll see your favorite coach

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down in Clemson.
Was it Brent venables, or was it

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somebody else on that staff?
Um, I wouldn't necessarily say,

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I had a favorite, you know, I
feel like every coach offered me

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individually like Like different
things, like a different type of

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like each coach has something
different that they try to

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instill in me.
And it kind of just like, like I

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said, there was just a real
group of guys like real group of

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people, even the support staff.
Like some of the ladies over in

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like the student academic center
and things like that.

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Like, everybody just trying and
still something different into

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me and it kind of a lot.
A lot of things stuck with me.

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Some things I might have to hear
again, but they definitely try

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to pour into me a lot.
And I mean, it's definitely hard

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to pick a favorite.
You know what I mean?

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Yeah, I can appreciate that.
I get that.

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I want to ask this because we
watch, you know, we're tech fans

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but we love college football.
We watch all the games.

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Brent venables seems like he's
one of the most animated guys.

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Does he have a voice like when
you're at practice like when you

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hear his voice change tone
you're like, oh somebody's about

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to get it.
Yeah, and I mean, it's kind of

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like he's always like, Youkai
you guys kind of call him

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animated but that's just how he
always is.

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Like that's the only way we see
him, you know what I mean?

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So when when you hear them like
coaching you up, it might sound

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like he's like, he's like you
getting on you or something like

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that.
But it's really like, it's just

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him just being a coach is being
called his type of coaching

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style that he has.
It's just it's just something

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that you kind of get used to,
but there's definitely a

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difference like, you know, when
you're being coached and when

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you're being yelled at, you know
what I mean, it's definitely a

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big difference and it's
something that like Like as one

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of his players is something that
you kind of like you catch onto

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very quickly.
I got you, I got you.

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So let's let's talk about some
another personality for that

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Clemson staff, all a
personality.

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So this is just a question.
I wanted to know about is the is

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the Davos winning that we see in
the media interviews, as he's

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the same guy that you as a
player, get in the locker room,

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100%, I mean coach loony.
Like, and I tell everybody that,

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but like that's kind of the one
of the most common questions

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when coach when he comes up and
like my experience that said the

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same Guy that's in front of the
cameras is the same guy that is

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behind the camera.
You know what I mean?

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Like he's just he's a cuz he's
another guy that just always is

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at the same level of course when
there's a time to be serious, he

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knows when the lockdown and get
everybody get everybody checked

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in and know that it's something
else like this is some serious

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moment.
But besides that, he's a goofy

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guy.
Always dancing, always smiling,

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always talking, creating
conversations, just wanted to

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have fun.
Just just a guy that he's like

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when he's out there on the
field, it looks like he enjoys

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being out there.
You know what I mean?

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It's not like He's just walking
around.

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Observing all the time.
Like he's making.

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He's out there just making guys
better just off of this energy

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alone.
Yeah, you definitely see him.

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Especially their, you.
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talking around, you see him.
Slapping guy wasn't laughing and

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joking.
And like you said dancing and

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yeah, so it's interesting or
interesting to hear to snow

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Dabo.
Whoever we see, Dabo does Dabo

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exactly, it's not for the
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You know, you were there, been
there for years, got a national

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championship ring, you went to
numerous playoff games, you

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played in some of the biggest
games we saw every year, but you

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decided to enter the portal.
You know what, what combination

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of things was it that made you
decide, okay.

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I've had a great run here, I
love this place but I've got it

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I've got to move on.
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So for me, my education was
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huge part in transferring.
I graduated from Clemson.

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So for me, it kind of was like a
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finish school.
There's a part of it where like

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football is something I plan on
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And for me, I feel like I was
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loaded.
I finished my fourth year.

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Wanted to my fifth year wine at
the transport portal and for me

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like the NFL is something that I
want to do.

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And what the great I was getting
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the scallops and stuff like that
with my years, where I was draft

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eligible, I just knew there was
so much left out there for me to

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put on tape so much lot, more
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And for me, like, I just wanted
to go somewhere where I had a

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different type of role in a
different type of different type

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of snap count.
I wanted to be able to get more

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plays and continue to produce
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So for me, you know we watch
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because we play some of our
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ACC and even like our culture
sad was just impressed with how

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their defensive line play.
Just how disrupted they are.

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How how I let it goes.
Guys are how they just cause a

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lot of disruption in the middle
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So for me, when I went into the
transfer portal, basically,

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everything I said about high
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like times to just because I had
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to a school and things like
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And More schools, reaching out.
But for me, those were the

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Virginia Tech Darryl.
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coaches to reach out to me.
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him and maintain that
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And then obviously, you know, he
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Francisco.
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But if he did, Curtis is a
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Listen, I'm Darryl.
Tapp we're all here, I'm

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straight up.
We had the opportunity to we

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interviewed Darrell last year.
And dude, I was the most

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greediest guy you've ever seen.
It's like, it's right that, you

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know, he's our age.
We got to meet him back at the

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spring game.
A few years ago, he was nice

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enough with his kid, on his
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to us and when we reached out to
him to interview, he said, can

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you give me may like it wasn't
like oh I'll check.

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It's like dude you could tell us
like mixed bring like we will

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say, yes.
But you know obviously you kind

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of I've already mentioned it.
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then they bring in JC price from
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We're JC and built eerily
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practice.
Or do they did they kind of

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bring different styles as you
definitely brought different

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styles and they definitely
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We always used to joke around in
our room and call.

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We would call a link to brains
and Coach Price the muscle, you

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know, because Crisis, coming out
there, he's gonna, if you mess

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up, he's gonna tell you right
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And there that you messed up.
Mmm, coach lingo tell you, but

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he might just tell you in film
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That goes prize, he's going to
let you have it right then and

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there, you know what I mean?
He's a guy that notices all the

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little things.
He's a guy that emphasizes just

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having energy hustling, moving
moving quickly, everywhere.

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You're going to, and you kind of
need that being out here kind of

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explains the type of Kochi as in
the type of impact he had when

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he when he took over towards the
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That's awesome.
That's awesome.

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Yeah, I mean, you can definitely
see like, just some of the

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anytime you see Coach Price out
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It looks like you can feel that
energy, right, right?

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You know, whether it whether its
media, whether it's just like

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quick steps that you catch on
all social media, you see that

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energy and you feel that that
passion, and it sounds like he

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brings that to the to the
practice field to deafening

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silence.
Oh, that's cool.

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So let's talk a little bit about
about Coach am, was there a big

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transition for you coming from
Brent venables system and then

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fitting into what coach an was
doing at Virginia Tech.

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I mean, for me at Clemson, we
ran so many so many blitzes, so

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many covered.
It was just so much install that

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you had to know that you had to
learn each and every week, but

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like I said, that, that player
German culture, you know, like

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guys are already learning it,
guys are learning the next day's

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install the day before, and it
was just things like that going

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on.
But for me, going into the

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transporter, I knew that if I
could learn a system like Brent

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venables, and I'll be able to go
anywhere in the country and

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learn to similar similar.
System.

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You know what I mean?
Or any other type of system,

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just because of how complex, and
how much things we ran as a

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defense at Clemson.
What about hams personality in,

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you know, energy level, because
you mentioned grunts intense, we

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know that and I don't know, can
can be intense, but they're

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sometimes, it looks like you was
a little more.

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He keeps his cool a lot more
definitely.

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You definitely speaks up a lot
to US during practice.

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He definitely has a big voice
for the whole defense.

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He gets all of us in line
because I wasn't order game

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days.
Are kind of where he's a little

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bit more mellow.
You know, I mean, he's a little

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bit more chill.
Chill it out unless we make a

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big play or less, we're messing
up or blow a big carpet or

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anything like that, but he's a
lot more mellow.

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But he definitely, you
definitely has a strong voice

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for our defense and our team.
Also yes, so you had mentioned

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earlier have I think I read it.
I can't remember who put it out

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there but you know the
familiarity you had with with

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Coach Fuente from your previous
recruitment kind of played a

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role in your room to Blacksburg
as well.

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What was that relation like for
you and Coach winter?

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Um, for me, you know, coach
Fuente.

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I'll never have a bad thing to
say about him.

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I know that there's a bunch of
people out there, a lot of fans,

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A lot of a lot of whatever you
want to call it, but a lot of

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people bash them and a lot of
people can say and say what they

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have to say about them.
But for me, you know, I was, I

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was probably at one of my lowest
points moving Clemson, you know,

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going into the transwarp portal,
not really knowing what what was

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next for me and Coach Fuente was
just so eager to call me and

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give me a shot and give me a
chance.

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And it for me, like, I felt like
I was talking to the same guy I

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met when I was 17 years old.
So, he kept that same

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relationship.
He wasn't, he wasn't spiteful

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against me because I didn't
choose to go to Virginia Tech

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the first time around.
He wasn't, he wasn't upset with

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me.
He wasn't angry with me.

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And for me, we just had a great
relationship because I came.

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I came in and I was just all
about the right thing, and he

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knew that he knew that I came
there to be a guy to be a leader

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to make an impact for that, for
that team for the defense for

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the defensive line for
everybody.

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And for me he just kind of he's
a, he's a man that I always

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respected.
He's And that I always recognize

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that gave me gave me a chance
that that ultimately could have

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changed that ultimately can
change my life.

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You know what I mean?
Yeah, for sure.

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You know you said getting that
opportunity and I mean I love

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you being candid talking about
when you had enter the portal.

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It was a low point because when
you came here you know we were

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as fans were excited because a
lot of us knew the name from

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recruiting and stuff and you
know you played your butt off

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last year man.
You play this in a very again

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another unusual.
Well year, you played your butt

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off.
And let me ask this kind of get

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away from that because I could
go down Road, man.

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But I'm going to try everyone
Force.

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But, you talked about some of
the cultural stuff in Clemson.

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What we're kind of the
difference is, especially

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looking at the game to game
prayer in when you Tech versus

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Clemson game to game prep, I
know, we kind of had just four

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one, one of the main, Things I
notice about as far as game

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prep, that was the difference as
that Clemson we practice in like

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the later half of the afternoon
and at Virginia Tech we practice

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in the morning, okay?
Now you can ask who you want but

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after being in four years of
afternoon practices, leaving the

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facility, at 8:00, 9:00 some
nights, I'm fully onboard with

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morning practice.
You know what I mean?

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Like, it's coming in going
through practice just waking up

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and and, and just putting that
time and for that little bit of

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time you're out there and then
just going Home and being done

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with your dad around like noon.
You know what I mean?

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It was just something that that
I wasn't really used to but it

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was something that I definitely
benefited me because I was able

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to have more time to get
treatment more time to do things

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like that, but as far as prep
those I mean every program

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across the country, you can go
anywhere to any school, any

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level of college football,
everybody's going to run their

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program differently and for me
like coach coach funds.

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I know coach wants a mention in
the interview like asking

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somebody and ask him something.
I was, was I coming in there and

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like just did I notice a
difference or that I like try

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and critique anything and for me
like this, this is the program

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coach Fuente has been running
for four years now, you know

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what I mean?
Like I don't expect him me to

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come in and start changing how
things go.

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You know what I mean?
Because ultimately I can tell

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them how I want program is
running, but Clemson is not the

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only program that's running by.
He's they're not running a

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similar program.
Everybody else like everybody's

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running a different program, a
different preparation type and

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for me, It was definitely
different but it definitely had

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its similarities as well.
You know, like like I mentioned

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that we had a lot of player lead
player.

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Led does a player like team from
us for real?

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And I feel like a Virginia Tech.
We were all kind of like really

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close.
Like, for me, that was the one

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of the group's where I know like
what the history of Virginia

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Tech a lot of guys transfer.
A lot of guys transfer in a lot

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of guys, leave a lot of things,
just a lot of things happening

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over the course of the season,
over the course of a couple

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years, but this is like one of
the most tight.

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Groups I've been around and is
very player led and one thing I

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noticed is that the players
respect each other.

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You know what I mean?
Like, for me when I came in,

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brought Hoffman was not.
I've said in an interview before

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brought Hoffman was one of the
players that I immediately

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respected just because of the
way he were just because of the

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way he, he was with the, with
the offense of line.

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And the younger guys, just the
way that the younger guys looked

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up to him.
It was something that was really

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cool to see.
So for me like that, that, that

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plays a huge part in, to a lot
of a lot of teams Access.

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If you got guys that are like
you only a couple of guys are

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out there and I everybody's out
there and then only those guys

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are really like getting that
that Advantage.

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You know what I mean?
That's as opposed to a whole

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group being able to get some
extra work and get some extra

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knowledge and watch a little bit
extra film and things like that.

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So for me I would say like
that's something that kind of

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surprised me you know just
coming into a I'm a I'm a grad

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transfer coming into a brand new
locker room.

446
00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:49,500
I'm wondering Our guys are going
to view me like how guys are

447
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:52,500
gonna look at me.
I got sent me, are they gonna

448
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,700
welcome me and bring me in?
Am I going to be a part of the

449
00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:57,700
culture, the Brotherhood and
things like that?

450
00:23:57,700 --> 00:24:00,700
For me just seeing how fast all
that happened for me.

451
00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:02,600
Kind of just made me feel a
whole lot better about my

452
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,400
decision.
Yeah, that's also, because I

453
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,500
will say this, I noticed, like
in Fall, when things were

454
00:24:08,508 --> 00:24:11,400
starting to ramp up like the
camaraderie, you were having

455
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,400
with, like, like James Mitchell
and trade turning, like, cutting

456
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,300
up during like interviews and
stuff like that.

457
00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:20,400
Like, Like it definitely seemed
like y'all really had like a

458
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,200
that family atmosphere going on,
pretty quick.

459
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,400
Most definitely, it's all from
the here.

460
00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:31,100
Alright, so it is the Friday
before Labor Day, 20, 21.

461
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,400
And you guys are sitting there
in the locker room and it's

462
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,100
about 550 and you start the
walk.

463
00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:42,700
Just give us your thoughts and
your experiences of that first

464
00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:45,900
one become those.
For that was the first time Lane

465
00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:51,100
had been filled since the Last
time we were there in 2019 and

466
00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:55,000
for a lot of people that was
like the semblance of college

467
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,900
football was back, y'all are
already used out.

468
00:24:57,900 --> 00:25:03,200
The crowd was onge is give us
your feelings walking down

469
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,800
through the tunnel.
Just for me, that was actually

470
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,600
my first game ever and laying.
I haven't been to Blacksburg on

471
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,400
a visit even in high school for
a game.

472
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,300
I came for like a couple cams.
Just some Doing business by

473
00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:22,300
never been in Lane Stadium, ever
for a game.

474
00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:25,100
And I was going to be my first
time and it just so happens.

475
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:28,700
That is my first game at
Virginia Tech as against a

476
00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:32,200
ranked opponent, the game sold
out, like you said, we got the

477
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:36,600
orange on, like it was just, it
was just chill.

478
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,600
Just something that I'll
definitely never forget.

479
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:43,200
And like, there's so much more
about it that like, I wish I

480
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,600
could say, I remember but it
just kind of just happened like,

481
00:25:46,900 --> 00:25:49,300
being in the Don't like that.
Everybody was asking like,

482
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:51,100
what's it like what's it like
running out to enter the

483
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:52,700
sandman?
It was so loud for me.

484
00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:54,000
Like I didn't even hear
anything.

485
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,200
I didn't hear the music.
It just sounded like one big

486
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,600
just noise as you ran out the
tunnel and for me, like I was so

487
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,700
I was just so eager, I was so
hyped up.

488
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,900
I didn't even know that.
That the players jumped into the

489
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,500
stands with the Court's order, I
went and did it anyway.

490
00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:12,200
You know, I'm not first time out
there, like, I'm gonna do

491
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,800
everything I can do everything,
right?

492
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,900
And then we went out there and
And there was also the game just

493
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:23,100
spoke for themselves as far as
the the hike going up into that

494
00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:26,600
into that moment.
Absolutely, absolutely.

495
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,200
That's awesome to hear and like
you know, people make claims but

496
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,100
I mean I still say there's no
atmosphere like laying,

497
00:26:36,100 --> 00:26:38,800
especially when it's packed when
it's a nice.

498
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,900
When it's a big game, it's a
great game like big game.

499
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:47,800
Anytime it's a big game that
plays just rocks like, None

500
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,200
other.
So let's turn into a little bit

501
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,500
of you know a little more
somber, note here.

502
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:56,300
So you know it's been November.
The team is five and five get

503
00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:59,900
the news coach Fuente has been
removed as head coach Jacy.

504
00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:03,700
Price has been named interim,
was this move a shot to y'all in

505
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:06,100
the locker room or was this
something where you kind of saw

506
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:09,200
the writing on the wall as
things were going into November?

507
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:15,400
Um, For me, it was definitely
something that we saw like

508
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,600
happening in the near future.
Definitely not on a Tuesday,

509
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,500
practice going into a game that
could make us Bowl eligible.

510
00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:24,200
You know what I mean?
And every you can ask any

511
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,700
college athlete and Tuesday,
such a pivotal part of

512
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,500
preparation, like, Tuesday's
like a full padded practice full

513
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:33,700
speed and sure like one day of
the week, where you guys are

514
00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:36,700
really like, hitting each other
and really like, getting actual

515
00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:41,400
game reps in and for us to be
told this news before we go, Out

516
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,400
on the field.
It just it shocked everybody.

517
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:50,200
And I mean for for Coach Price
to Cusco we all of us heard the

518
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,200
news at the same time, you know
what I mean?

519
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,000
So for Coach prize to get Heat
coach prize came in when I did.

520
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,900
So for him to get in and what
was that like mid-January we

521
00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:03,800
both got in and mid-January for
him to hear this news that he's

522
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,100
going to be not only like he's
not working with the defensive

523
00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,700
line along, but he's going to be
the head coach.

524
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,900
It was just something that kind
of Just I know shocking for him

525
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:16,200
as well, but as like for us as a
coach, you not even just for us,

526
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,400
but I as a coach like that, that
heard the exact same news that

527
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,100
you heard at the same moment,
it's kind of like, what can you

528
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,200
like?
It's going to be hard to keep a

529
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,700
team locked in when we just
like, you know what I mean?

530
00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:30,400
When such a big changes happen
in our in our locker room.

531
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:34,800
So for us, we kind of just like
I said, the leaders on the team,

532
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,500
the seniors, the older guys,
just trying to keep everybody

533
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:40,400
locked in and keep them.
Keep them focused on the task at

534
00:28:40,408 --> 00:28:43,200
hand, which was trying to be
polite eligible by the end of

535
00:28:43,208 --> 00:28:46,700
the season.
Yeah, and I can't imagine, you

536
00:28:46,708 --> 00:28:49,800
know, like you said, it was on a
Tuesday when that happened.

537
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,100
I can't imagine, you know, how I
felt for you guys, because, you

538
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:59,300
know, if it's, and I'm not
trying to say what's right,

539
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:01,300
what's right?
Like, if it's done on a Sunday

540
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,100
Drive of, y'all have a couple
days to deep breath.

541
00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:07,600
This is our new coach.
This is how we're doing things

542
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:12,900
but to get it, like you said,
like one of the biggest practice

543
00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:14,900
days.
I mean, in, right before, Not

544
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:19,500
after you know, that, that's
definitely I give you guys

545
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:23,500
credit because you're going out
and you all played y'all's asses

546
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,500
off against Miami.
He'll be a real played your

547
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:30,900
asses off against Miami.
And, you know, came up short in

548
00:29:30,908 --> 00:29:35,500
that game, not for a lack of
effort, but then the next week,

549
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,300
it's, you know, the game for the
Commonwealth cup.

550
00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:43,200
You guys going to Carlinville.
What did it mean to you?

551
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,900
Because they They had a you know
you know what did it mean to you

552
00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:53,200
to go in there?
In bring the cup back to

553
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,400
Blacksburg for me.
It was you, you know, I kind of,

554
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,600
I kind of knew a lot about the
Rivalry, but I didn't really

555
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,400
like, just like going leading up
into the week.

556
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,500
I didn't really like, have that
same hate life for me for four

557
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:13,900
years.
All, I know was the Gamecocks,

558
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:16,300
you know what I mean?
Like, just, I hate them, but I

559
00:30:16,308 --> 00:30:18,200
knew I had it on, like, I played
there.

560
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:20,600
I've, I've been able to
experience their faith.

561
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,300
Is and things like that.
So for me like my first trip to

562
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:27,500
Charlottesville playing them, of
course.

563
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:31,600
It was, it was crazy.
You know, like getting there,

564
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,400
just being in the hotel, not
even on the field, you're just

565
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,100
being a home.
Like I hate these guys, you know

566
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:38,700
what I mean?
Like I had that same similar

567
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:42,000
hate to him and like just seeing
how other guys went about the

568
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:46,600
Rivalry as well, like the height
that goes into it, the real the

569
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,900
real hatred Backyard Brawl type
of type of game.

570
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:51,500
It is, you know what I mean?
I mean it's something that I

571
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:54,600
kind of just bought it so you
know I've never do my first time

572
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,200
ever playing UVA.
It was a moment where it made us

573
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,100
Bowl eligible.
We kept the cop, we allowed my

574
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:06,100
first time ever being on a field
that like, on an opponent's

575
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:09,500
field that got storm by our fans
that never happened to me.

576
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,400
That's why.
Yeah.

577
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,200
So for me it was just a all
overall experience.

578
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,500
My first time ever.
My first time ever?

579
00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:19,400
No, never mind.
My first time ever.

580
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,700
I was gonna say my first time
ever smoked Cigar after the game

581
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:26,600
but I did after UNC game.
I got to drink out of the cup

582
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,000
life for me.
I'll told you I came to Virginia

583
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,800
tag, learn a lot about the
Traditions about the things like

584
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,200
that.
I had, I just felt like I had to

585
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,900
experience all of it.
You know what I mean?

586
00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:38,500
It sounds like you were just
soaking everything in Old Time,

587
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:39,400
right.
Definitely.

588
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,900
You know, during the game, it's
kind of like it was, it was that

589
00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,400
type of game where how it ended
and things like that, but after

590
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,700
the game that's that's when you
just kind of got a so-called of

591
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,000
it in.
Like I wanted to be one of the

592
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,700
last ones off the field.
And things like that.

593
00:31:51,700 --> 00:31:54,400
Just that's just a moment.
That's that's huge for you.

594
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,300
A moment that you'll always be
able to remember and tell your

595
00:31:56,300 --> 00:32:00,400
kids about what was what was
Coach Price in the locker room

596
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:03,700
after that game because we got
to see him on national TV,

597
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:07,800
right?
Almost bring most of us fans to

598
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,300
tears, but what was it like in
the locker room?

599
00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:14,200
After obviously, the own field
celebration was Wild and Woolly.

600
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,400
I'm sure they heard you guys.
Lane Stadium, North Lake.

601
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:24,300
Naco surprised.
He was just he really just just

602
00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:27,000
made it a point to express how
proud he was of us.

603
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,100
You know.
I don't think there was any team

604
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:32,400
in college and all the college
football last year that had a

605
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,800
had to deal with what we had to
deal with, you know what I mean?

606
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,400
We had so much things going on
in our program that that would

607
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,600
like a lot was out of our
control, but it was it was

608
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,500
something that we just had to
deal with and something that we

609
00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:46,700
had to take on and accept and
work through every day.

610
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:50,600
So for us to pull out a big game
like that again.

611
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:54,600
Against those that one team down
the street, it kind of was just

612
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,800
huge for us, you know, like
there was something that like it

613
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,600
was a moment where, like I said,
all of that, that tight bond

614
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,900
that I told you guys about it,
kind of just, it made it all,

615
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:05,300
like, seeing real.
You know what I mean?

616
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:07,900
Guys were hugging on guys,
taking pictures with the cup in

617
00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:11,400
the locker room guys on the
phone with their parents on the

618
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,300
phone with all their friends and
things like that.

619
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:16,100
Like it was just a it was really
a cool moment to be a part of

620
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,900
and then I feel like just how it
ended was just it made me even

621
00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:22,300
more better.
You I mean like it was a little

622
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:25,700
stressful it during the time but
how I just how it ended.

623
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:28,400
Definitely just made everything
it just made the moment

624
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,000
complete.
Yeah, I mean, you guys had so

625
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,500
many close calls in the first
part of the season and then you

626
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:37,600
had all the turmoil that
happened in November with, with

627
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,200
Coach Fuente stuff getting
relieved there.

628
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,900
I'm sure that was just like, all
right, well, we got one, we turn

629
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:47,900
it around.
We finish the way we wanted to

630
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:50,500
finish and we did it at our
route.

631
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:54,000
Owls field.
And I just can't imagine how

632
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,400
good the feeling that was after
after the kind of the Way That

633
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,700
season that went down, right was
such a good feeling.

634
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,500
So let's turn it this, I know
after the season, you've

635
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:08,000
declared for the draft during
this process, where have you

636
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:12,000
been working out and who have
you been preparing with I want.

637
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:16,000
So after I opted out of the ball
game, I went back home.

638
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,900
Spent Christmas with my family.
Probably my first, I think it

639
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:22,600
was my first Christmas ever
being at home, you know, being

640
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,900
in being at Clemson.
We were always playing on.

641
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,699
Like, we really didn't even get
to be home for Christmas.

642
00:34:27,699 --> 00:34:29,800
We're always traveling and
practicing during Christmas

643
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,199
time.
So I Have been spend Christmas

644
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,699
at home my family, and then I
shortly after that, I flew out

645
00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:37,699
to Fort Lauderdale and I was
training at the gym called

646
00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:41,800
perform and Davey.
So I trained there for three

647
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,400
months.
Got a lot of good work, met a

648
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:49,699
lot of good people and after
that came back here for pro day

649
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:52,800
and since then I kind of just
been, you know, just working out

650
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,000
on your own just just work
coming up with workout plans.

651
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,900
A lot of guys like to go back to
the facility.

652
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:00,400
They trained a lot of guys just
do.

653
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:02,200
Different things.
But for me, you know, I just

654
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,200
been putting in work on my own.
I've been in Florida.

655
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,700
I've been, I've been here in
Blacksburg doing some work and

656
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:11,400
after I leave here for after the
spring, am I plan on going back

657
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,800
to back to Virginia Beach and
doing putting in some more work

658
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,100
just until the dry.
If, you know, you just kind of

659
00:35:16,107 --> 00:35:18,800
want to just, just always say
ready, just staying in shape

660
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,000
because you just never know
where your journey is going to

661
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,700
end up at.
How did you feel about your pro

662
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:28,200
day down in Blacksburg?
I know it was a ton of folks.

663
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,700
There, how do you feel about No,
it was exciting.

664
00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:36,200
You know, I definitely had the
nerves, like, it's kind of like

665
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,300
going into a game, almost, you
know what I mean?

666
00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:42,500
Like it is and it isn't except
like the guys that are the

667
00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:43,900
Scouts in.
The guys are watching you there,

668
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:45,900
right in front of your face at
pro day.

669
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,100
You know what I mean?
So it just makes that market or

670
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:51,200
a lot smaller but after you kind
of go through, you're going

671
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,800
through your first couple of
drills and kind of just is

672
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,200
really just you and you out
there.

673
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,700
You know what I mean, is you
against yourself, you know, you

674
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:00,500
know, this type of caliber
player you are, you know, Show

675
00:36:00,508 --> 00:36:02,900
your abilities.
You know, you know what you can

676
00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:05,500
do.
And now all that's left to do is

677
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:07,800
just go out there and do it
regardless of who's around you

678
00:36:07,808 --> 00:36:10,600
regardless of who's watching.
So, for me, it was definitely,

679
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:14,100
it was definitely exciting.
I feel like I was able to go out

680
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:16,100
and display everything that I
needed to display.

681
00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:18,900
A lot of the questions that
Scouts had on me.

682
00:36:18,908 --> 00:36:22,200
I was able to go out there and
really just display those things

683
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,800
and show them that I can.
I am who I say, I am, you know

684
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,700
what I mean?
Yeah, and the nerves thing that

685
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:30,400
I think that's anything you
care.

686
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:33,800
Out of want it.
If you're not nervous, then you

687
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,600
know, it's like he's there any
passion in you, right?

688
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,900
That's, that's that's what, you
know, that's what I've known.

689
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,000
That's what I've always felt
throughout my life because if

690
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,000
you're you're nervous about
something you care and when you

691
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,500
care, it definitely shows up.
We got a question here from

692
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,700
coach Robbie Compton.
Can you see that Jordan?

693
00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:55,900
Yeah, I can see it and if you
could pick his team drive

694
00:36:55,900 --> 00:37:00,300
wherever you want to go, I mean
I've always growing up.

695
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,300
Always been a Redskins fan the
Commander's now, but always been

696
00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:10,400
arrested as fan for me now
though, you know, just being

697
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,600
being older knowing what's going
on.

698
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,400
Like NFL.
I want to go somewhere where

699
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,400
it's nice and nice weather.
Great weather year-round.

700
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,500
You know what I mean?
I'll be fortunate enough for

701
00:37:20,508 --> 00:37:22,600
whoever whoever pick me up.
What would you ask me?

702
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,400
Wherever signs, me.
But if I had to choose, I'm

703
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,800
definitely gonna go towards the
Sun and towards the warm

704
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,900
weather.
You know what I mean?

705
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:31,500
All those books.
Traded down in Florida, you

706
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:36,900
write one of those floor disease
have minor in Florida.

707
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:40,300
Since January, I knew you didn't
like you went from the coal to

708
00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:43,200
Blacksburg and I know you guys
were up in New York City to

709
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,000
what, 75 and Sunny every day,
right?

710
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,900
All the time it was it was crazy
man.

711
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,200
So have you had a chance to talk
to any teams directly throughout

712
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,000
this process so far?
Yeah, I mean, I've talked to a

713
00:38:00,008 --> 00:38:03,700
lot of Teams on pro day.
I've had some interviews with a

714
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:07,800
few teams after the process.
I know that tie-ins the

715
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:11,600
Chargers.
The the 49ers are few of the

716
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,000
teams but yeah, I mean this is
always on the phone.

717
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,100
Always talking to talking to
different Scout always filling

718
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:21,400
out, filling out questionnaires
doing assessments and things

719
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,000
like that.
Like it's real process and its

720
00:38:24,008 --> 00:38:27,300
really getting down to towards
the end where now we're going to

721
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:29,300
figure out where we're guys are
going to wind up at.

722
00:38:33,300 --> 00:38:35,400
So throughout the president you
talked about filling out

723
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,200
questionnaires.
What's the weirdest question

724
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,700
that you've encountered
throughout those interviews?

725
00:38:40,700 --> 00:38:47,400
And those questionnaires there's
a lot.

726
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:50,700
I mean I feel like you're not
really supposed to think too

727
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,000
hard about them, but I mean
there's some places where it

728
00:38:53,008 --> 00:38:56,000
kind of like I wouldn't say
they're weird but the kind of

729
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,000
questions that make you wanna
like, second-guess, you know

730
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,500
what that's like.
Is this a trick question?

731
00:39:00,500 --> 00:39:03,300
Kind of question.
Like, they'll just ask you just

732
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:06,400
things that was but I was like
one of the hardest things you've

733
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,400
gone through and it's like
you're about to tell a scout

734
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,400
that you that that you never met
that doesn't really know you

735
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:15,500
like something that really like
challenge you throughout your

736
00:39:15,500 --> 00:39:18,300
whole life.
You know what I mean, by there's

737
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:21,500
different questions.
Like I know.

738
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:26,300
One Scout asked me, who if there
was anybody in the law?

739
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,800
Anybody in the world, I could
eat a meal with, like, you

740
00:39:28,808 --> 00:39:31,800
dinner with who Dead or Alive.
Who would it be?

741
00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:34,500
And it's like, that's not a,
that's not a weird question, but

742
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:36,900
it's a question.
Whereas like why I would never

743
00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:41,200
expect you to ask me that?
Like, were your NFL scout ya to

744
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,300
sign me to drive me?
And you're asked me, who's one

745
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:45,600
person?
I would want to, like, have a

746
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,800
meal with you dead or alive?
Like that's just something that

747
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,700
kind of for me, like it makes
you think a different type of

748
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:52,500
way.
Yeah, you don't want to under

749
00:39:52,500 --> 00:39:54,300
think you but you don't want to
overthink it either.

750
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:56,000
Yeah, exactly.
You don't want too much about

751
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:57,000
it.
You just kind of want to just

752
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,700
just happen to have a name ready
and just throw it out there and

753
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:02,000
just be able to stand on its and
fired by.

754
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:05,100
It's true.
Those are those are the old.

755
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,800
Those are the old who's talking.
It is my lungs.

756
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:15,900
I couldn't broaden know if your
dog has slipped in the room.

757
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,600
I saw the cat a few minutes ago,
but those questions.

758
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:13,600
So Jordan, you know, we're
wrapping up here and if you guys

759
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:18,400
who are watching us on Twitter,
Facebook, YouTube, We Don't

760
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,100
Instagram tonight.
Brian twitch twitch or figuring

761
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:25,800
out everywhere.
Bottom of your screen is all of

762
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,000
Jordans info.
Check out his ni L apparel line.

763
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:34,200
Right there, Jordan Williams.
A pair of Jordan Dash Williams.

764
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:40,500
That's your peril. .
My Shopify.com you parlament

765
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:44,200
underscore blessed underscore 23
on Twitter or J Will 12

766
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,900
underscore on Instagram?
You know, our buddy who asked

767
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:51,200
you that question.
He also said, if you get drafted

768
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,200
by the Commander's, he will buy
your jersey.

769
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,200
And you know, I only got one.
49ers jersey.

770
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,200
If you get drafted by the 49ers,
I got you.

771
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:13,700
Taken care of.
Yeah.

772
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:36,400
But, you know, it was also in
your Insight Man the best of

773
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,800
luck to you, you know what the
NFL stuff.

774
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,000
But beyond that I think the type
of person you are and it shows

775
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,700
here tonight.
Whatever you do next.

776
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,800
I believe you're going to be
successful in it man.

777
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:51,100
Sir, I appreciate you guys so
much and thank you guys for

778
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:54,300
having me and just being able to
tell a little bit about myself

779
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:57,300
and about my journey.
Absolutely, yeah, and I know

780
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:00,500
Hokie Nation, appreciates
everything that you did for 21

781
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:03,200
coming in and being a leader on
that team.

782
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,300
And just, you know, the man Now
that you are in the way you

783
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:08,100
carry yourself.
So we appreciate that and I know

784
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:12,100
they do as well.
Yes absolutely Jordan, you have

785
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:15,900
yourself a good rest of your
weekend but those who are going

786
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:18,400
to the spring game Jordans in
Blacksburg.

787
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,600
Look for him he'll be all
around, I'm sure most

788
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,600
definitely.
All right.

789
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,900
All right guys, as we wrap up
here with Jordan, we are going

790
00:43:26,900 --> 00:43:29,700
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Now back to the episode All
right, in Vegas and we do had

801
00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:03,500
graphic what you think?
I told you yesterday.

802
00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:07,700
Man Brian Brian doing a little
handy work there with his

803
00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:13,200
graphic design, good job babe.
The live read was pre-taped at

804
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,800
the old house.
I was like, well, if I'm going

805
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,300
to do this let's go ahead and
and dress it up a little bit

806
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:22,500
more to have fun before we move
on by other topics again.

807
00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:25,500
We can't think Jordan Williams
from joining us enough tonight.

808
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,200
Night, great human being, great
individual Braun.

809
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,500
I hope you can connect with him
over the weekend up in the

810
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:36,000
Burgh, if you see.
And, but, and that I tell you

811
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:39,600
that, that story about that
Tuesday, that's laying up.

812
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,300
Yeah, I can't imagine that.
Yeah, I mean, that's a whole lot

813
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:46,600
of process while you're trying
to, you know, prepare for

814
00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:49,400
against a rival opponent on the
road.

815
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,400
Huge huge.
All right, so before we get into

816
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,000
spring game, there are three
things we are going to cover

817
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,400
here tonight.
Guys and first run.

818
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,300
We finally got one in the boat.
We got one in the boat.

819
00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:03,700
Yes sir.
And of course it had to be an

820
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:08,300
interior offensive, lineman
Lance Williams 64 306 out of

821
00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:16,000
Alcoa Tennessee, a three-star
with additional authors from

822
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:20,200
appstate, Cincinnati and Georgia
Tech Brian.

823
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,900
What do you think of Lance
preliminary tape review?

824
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:28,600
I mean it looks like he's got a
nasty G which I like to see and

825
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,200
I think that's going to bode
well for what coach Rudolph is

826
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,900
trying to do with this offensive
line.

827
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,900
And I think he kind of fits
right into that mold of that

828
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,600
that style of Lyman that Rudolph
is typically recruited.

829
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:49,200
You know time will tell if he's
going to be able to make the

830
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,600
transition into a rotation.
A little too deep layer or

831
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,100
starter, but I think this is a
good start for the 23 class

832
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:59,100
especially at a position where
we need some depth.

833
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,500
Yeah, you know, we've got to
replenish the lines, I mean with

834
00:46:05,500 --> 00:46:08,800
without a doubt, you know, and
you feel like with Rudolph.

835
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:13,200
It's one of those the way he's
developed not only High Caliber,

836
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,100
you know, or high rated
offensive lineman, the last guy

837
00:46:18,100 --> 00:46:21,200
he had been turned into an
All-American, it was constant,

838
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,100
As a two-star guy that
legitimately had.

839
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,700
He was their offer.
No.

840
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:31,000
You feel like the hope you feel
like Joe Rudolph probably has a

841
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,000
knack for finding the guys he
wants and like you said, you

842
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,100
can't teach nasty, you can teach
you other stuff.

843
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,600
Alright, next note announced
today Braun As you've been

844
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,900
saying over and over, we ain't
Mom and Pops anymore.

845
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:52,400
When Sheraton donate five
million dollars to update the

846
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,200
locker rooms five large and
that's going to be big.

847
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:05,100
We said it we said it earlier
today that that might be what

848
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:08,000
what do we say?
We said that might be some some

849
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:09,600
slide money.
Yes.

850
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,300
Some pool slide money, it's not
going to quite be E, Florida,

851
00:47:12,300 --> 00:47:14,400
Cabana money.
I think a band of money.

852
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:18,000
I saw some people say, get a
good barber shop in there.

853
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:22,500
I'm sure how about sleep pause.
Like they have at LSU, although

854
00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:25,900
I would just like to know the
cost of one sleep pod for my

855
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:27,100
house.
Yeah, I would like one of those.

856
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:31,600
I can just put that in my desk
here, the home office, take a

857
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,200
nap midday.
You know, that that would

858
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:39,300
definitely be the ideal setup
here for me, you know, bigger

859
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:42,600
pieces and we and we've seen
some of the pictures In the

860
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,500
locker room is some
significantly dated?

861
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,300
Oh yeah.
It's I mean it was it was dated

862
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:50,400
eight years.
Yeah it probably it probably

863
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,500
should have been updated in like
2010 but we digress on that but

864
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:59,700
seeing this sword again, the
money keeps rolling in, you

865
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:02,200
know, along with everything else
we've seen in the last, you

866
00:48:02,207 --> 00:48:08,200
know, really six months to a
year, the money's coming and

867
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,500
it's time to get the facilities
where they should be.

868
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,700
You know I can't wait in me and
Brian.

869
00:48:14,700 --> 00:48:17,600
We were talking today.
I think this is something we see

870
00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:21,400
revealed what we say Brian neck
about a year from now.

871
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,700
Yeah, I would think so.
I think they if you know,

872
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,300
depending on where they're at in
the planning stages of this, I

873
00:48:27,308 --> 00:48:30,500
don't know if they already had,
you know, planes ready to go,

874
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:33,700
just waiting on the funding to
come in or what the situation

875
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:36,500
is.
But if that's the case, getting

876
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:40,100
this turned around, before you
start getting some of the big

877
00:48:40,100 --> 00:48:44,200
Junior days next year, at least
before the spring game next

878
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,900
year, that would be the probably
ideal scenario when you get a

879
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:51,600
lot of those big recruits on
campus, you know, they're not

880
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,700
just looking.
At a poster.

881
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:55,900
They're not just looking at
promotional material.

882
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:57,300
They're looking at the real
deal.

883
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:00,300
Absolutely.
And you have to be able to have

884
00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:04,700
them walk in there and see it
Live In Living Color huge but

885
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:07,400
also, you know, huge for the
guys.

886
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,000
They're currently right.
Like know.

887
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:13,500
They, you're fighting to be one
of the guys that gets here so,

888
00:49:13,500 --> 00:49:16,900
it's awesome.
Other thing there is definitely

889
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:19,200
going to be something in il
related.

890
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,200
Getting announced tomorrow at
Virginia Tech.

891
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:29,600
Some of the, some of the known
Virginia Tech in il Twitter's

892
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,500
are there basically they're
sending out the signals that

893
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:36,700
something's coming up?
Yeah, something bigs happening.

894
00:49:36,700 --> 00:49:41,100
Keep keep your eyes peeled.
Keep your eyes peeled.

895
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:46,600
I know one was performance, I
saw two tweets.

896
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,600
One was at like 5:00 today and
one was it like six?

897
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:53,500
That we will just kind of like
something's happening and I love

898
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:57,000
the timing of it too.
I really like the timing of it

899
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,500
because you're talking about
announcing this and probably

900
00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:05,900
what Friday all the kids are
going to be coming in for the

901
00:50:05,900 --> 00:50:07,400
visit for the official spring
game.

902
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,100
So you're announcing you making
this announcement as they walk

903
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,300
in you have something
immediately to talk about not

904
00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:16,400
only the locker room but the N
IL deals.

905
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,200
Yeah you got a selling point
right out the gate 4.

906
00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:23,800
And you've got a large number of
kids coming in.

907
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,600
So you're not just, you don't,
you don't just have something

908
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,500
new to sell, but you got a lot
of eyes that are ready to

909
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:32,000
listen.
That's not a lot of ears and

910
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,100
eyes that are ready to listen.
I was ready to look ears.

911
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:37,200
Ready to listen.
Yeah, well, let's flip it now.

912
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,300
Brian, let's take a look.
And start doing a little preview

913
00:50:40,300 --> 00:50:45,100
of the spring game, things were
looking for and a lot of other

914
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:47,300
things as well.
But let's start with the format

915
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:49,600
which coach Pride announced
today in his press conference

916
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,800
There are going to be two
rosters into staffs and

917
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,100
essentially coach prai is
working on splitting that up.

918
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,600
So Brian mean, you've been
talking about it.

919
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:05,300
We're probably going to get
pretty even teams and we're not

920
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:07,500
going to probably see some guys
play together that we were

921
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:09,800
expecting to.
Yeah.

922
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,800
I mean there's there's positives
and negatives to this format.

923
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:18,700
You know, the positives, are you
get to see a lot of guys working

924
00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:23,400
with various Into.
So you get a good mix of how

925
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,900
everybody that's going to be in
the rotation for significant

926
00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:28,500
snaps.
Come fall.

927
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:30,700
How they're going to work?
They're going to get a good

928
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:33,600
amount of snaps.
What you don't get to seize.

929
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,300
You don't get to see how the the
first line or the second line or

930
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:42,200
gelling, or how this player, you
know, works with that player

931
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,500
because they may be on separate
squads.

932
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:49,700
So you might not see, you know,
Wells, throwing to Blue, you

933
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:52,800
know, you might It, you don't
see that starting five on the

934
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,400
offensive line altogether.
You're probably going to have

935
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,600
Silas Dancy and Johnny Jordan
probably on separate lines

936
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,300
because they're probably going
to be the leaders of their

937
00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:04,500
respective units.
So there's going to be things

938
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:07,500
like that that you don't get to
see.

939
00:52:07,500 --> 00:52:10,100
But what you do get to see is
probably a better more

940
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:14,800
entertaining game and we're
talking about for 12 minute

941
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,300
quarters.
The first half is going to have

942
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:18,100
a normal clock.
Second half is going to have a

943
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:21,700
running clock, but when you have
those Mostly evenly matched

944
00:52:21,700 --> 00:52:23,700
teams.
You're going to get a better

945
00:52:23,700 --> 00:52:26,300
product and that's going to
that's going to think benefit

946
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:31,400
them from a more casual or
typical fan perspective.

947
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,400
Versus guys like us that like
really like to dig into the

948
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,700
minutiae of the roster the depth
chart.

949
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,800
Yeah and you know breaking down
what's happening on the field.

950
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:46,800
I think for those, for those
casual fans and for those fans

951
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,300
that just, you know, are showing
up to have a good time.

952
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,800
And enjoy the game.
I think that's they're going to

953
00:52:52,808 --> 00:52:55,500
probably get the best product
this way.

954
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:56,900
You definitely get the best
product.

955
00:52:56,900 --> 00:53:00,500
But I even think for guys like
us and, you know, followers with

956
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:03,900
our account and other folks who
are deeper into it, you're going

957
00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:06,300
to start seeing more names,
right?

958
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,700
Like my thought is backs
hollifield now and Tuesday will

959
00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:12,800
not be at Mike and we'll
together.

960
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,600
It's probably going to be Dax
and probably Jaden Keller that

961
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,100
will and you know, you've heard
prize speak a couple times.

962
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:24,100
He's making some, you know,
inroads, you know, in the same

963
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:29,000
thing with corner, you might see
Jaden blue, go against Elijah

964
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,600
Howard, who was mentioned today
at having a pretty good camp to

965
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:38,600
be a younger guy.
So so if we see if you see a

966
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,300
guy, you don't know, and he's
starting to make strides

967
00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:43,400
immediately.
He's on your radar.

968
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:46,900
Why can't we get to fall camp?
And that's what is really cool

969
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:51,000
about this format.
But you know, Sometimes you just

970
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,700
want to see one ones and see who
can run it the best.

971
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:57,000
But let's get into it, Brian.
Let's start with the quarterback

972
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:05,200
room and From the sounds of it.
It feels like well, Grant.

973
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,800
Well, might have a little bit of
an advantage going into the

974
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,000
spring game.
Do you feel that way from here

975
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,600
in Fred talked?
Last week?

976
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,900
Tyler talk, and then Coach cry
talked a few times.

977
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,700
Yeah, I mean, it sounds like, I
mean, he's won the spring baller

978
00:54:23,700 --> 00:54:27,500
award for the offense, so he's
got that under his belt.

979
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:33,100
He's been the name that Even
when both Wells and brown have

980
00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:36,000
been mentioned Wells, as name
has been brought up first

981
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:41,600
consistently and I don't know
whether that's just by default

982
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,200
or whether that's something
there's something to that but it

983
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,000
seems like Wells has the
advantage.

984
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,000
It was mentioned that you know
looks like he's throwing a

985
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,700
pretty good deep ball has good
command of the offense.

986
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,900
The coaches had mentioned that
both Wells and brown have only

987
00:54:55,900 --> 00:55:00,900
thrown one Pig during scrimmages
as of our last Last talk there,

988
00:55:00,900 --> 00:55:04,900
so that's a good sign and
especially for Wells who did

989
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:10,800
have some concerns with
interceptions during his time at

990
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,700
Marshall.
Yeah, so that's good to hear

991
00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:15,900
both above 65 percent completion
percentage during those

992
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:20,600
scrimmages, the question is
going to be is, you know, are

993
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,100
these going to Wells and brown?
Are they going to be the one

994
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:26,500
guys for their respective
squads?

995
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:29,000
It sounds like they are.
Yeah.

996
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,400
And that's going That's going to
give us a pretty good.

997
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,600
Look at what they're able to
bring to the table.

998
00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:37,000
You're not, you're not worried
about splitting snaps or whether

999
00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:40,100
you know, Browns working with
mostly twos and Wells is working

1000
00:55:40,100 --> 00:55:42,600
with mostly ones.
You get a good mix for both.

1001
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,300
So you really can kind of see
how these quarterbacks handle

1002
00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:48,100
those situations.
Yeah, and the whole thing now

1003
00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:51,500
about the snap count is us as
you know, kind of paint.

1004
00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:54,300
You know, in the minutiae fans
we're not going to worry about

1005
00:55:54,300 --> 00:55:56,300
that anymore because they're
probably going to get the same

1006
00:55:56,300 --> 00:56:01,000
number of snap counts with the
ones with the Their respective

1007
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,900
ones, right?
Yeah, exactly.

1008
00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:04,900
So exactly know that was
something we thought about

1009
00:56:04,900 --> 00:56:06,200
looking in.
If they're going to play it

1010
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,200
another way.
Where's more defense offense?

1011
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,700
What we might be?
Seeing is all right.

1012
00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:16,700
Well Wells got, you know, he got
50, you know, he got 20 more

1013
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:19,200
snaps, he's clearly leaving but
we're not going to be able to

1014
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,200
see that.
So maybe we get a decision,

1015
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,700
maybe we don't now what I'm
going to be more interested in

1016
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:32,000
brine is who what?
Ins they give to each

1017
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,900
quarterback.
We keep hearing.

1018
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:37,300
You said it already Grant well
deep ball accuracy.

1019
00:56:38,100 --> 00:56:40,900
Well what if their decision on
him is the best deep ball guy?

1020
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:42,700
They're going to put over with
Jason Brown.

1021
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:46,400
Yeah, that's going to be
interesting to see how those

1022
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,100
matchups are set up.
You know, whether you know, you

1023
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:54,800
get blue on one side Loft and on
the other, whether whether blue

1024
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,100
and Lofton, they're going to be
together, I feel like those are

1025
00:56:57,100 --> 00:57:01,600
probably the two most potent
weapons at the wide receiver

1026
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,800
position that we're going to
have come fall.

1027
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:07,400
Bloomer question is, are ya
blumrich?

1028
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,400
Where is he going to be?
I mean we know he's not a

1029
00:57:09,408 --> 00:57:13,100
quarterback anymore but is he
going to be you know, that your

1030
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:16,200
third or fourth tight, Dorsey
just going to be a guy that

1031
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,200
they, you know, drop on one
Squad and see what he can do at

1032
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,800
multiple positions there.
So that's going to be

1033
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,100
interesting to follow as well.
And then, you know, we've

1034
00:57:25,100 --> 00:57:28,300
obviously, I've even talked
about Taj Bullock and Devon

1035
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:31,600
Farrell here who are rounding
out the quarterback room.

1036
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,400
I think the big thing to watch
for them is going to be

1037
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:40,400
mechanics, you know, which of
those two is is bringing sound

1038
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,900
mechanics and and looks good
with their release and It has a

1039
00:57:44,908 --> 00:57:47,400
good command of where they want
to go with the football.

1040
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:49,700
Yeah.
The other thing about it, you

1041
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:53,600
mentioned by the to essentially
the, the two guys in the running

1042
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,500
for the starting over 65% coach
also mentioned Todd and Devon

1043
00:57:57,500 --> 00:58:01,300
both 65 percent plus completion
percentage in their time as

1044
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:03,300
well.
He did not mention interception

1045
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:06,000
but I expect them to younger
guys to have a few more.

1046
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,500
But the other thing is, you
know, who's out there barking

1047
00:58:09,500 --> 00:58:11,700
the instruction because they're
tick, they're essentially going

1048
00:58:11,700 --> 00:58:13,500
to get a significant amount of
snaps.

1049
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:17,600
Who commits if the Hubble who
commands the team better, who

1050
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,900
gets a chance to go out there.
For example, you know, let's say

1051
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:24,600
it's brown and Bullock and
they've got Jaden blue.

1052
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,200
Do they get the opportunity to
go out there and play with Jaden

1053
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:33,200
blue or you know, some of the
other guys were perceiving to be

1054
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,800
you know contributors on the
offense.

1055
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,000
And yeah that's a big one in.
I think the other thing when we

1056
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:46,600
look at who ideal Lee could
emerge as that third quarterback

1057
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:53,600
for this fall and even looking
long-term I think, You kind of

1058
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,800
want it to be ties, right?
And I think the reason aside

1059
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:04,600
from his having one extra year
in the system, but also my thing

1060
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,400
is, you know, pry and others
have mentioned the position

1061
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:14,100
flexibility that Farrell has,
you know, there might be, you

1062
00:59:14,100 --> 00:59:16,800
know, some options with him
moving to another position as

1063
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,800
need be or as is better for our
roster.

1064
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,900
So ties taking the lead.
In that group may be the

1065
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:28,700
preferred outcome just because
of that flexibility, it may be.

1066
00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:33,100
But I think it's going to be in
that case, whoever is the third

1067
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:36,200
best quarterback is going to be
the third best quarterback and I

1068
00:59:36,207 --> 00:59:38,200
think that valves going to go
into fall Camp.

1069
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,700
I think it never wins.
That job is going to be running

1070
00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:43,800
Scout teams and then the other
guy is essentially going to have

1071
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:47,000
to find, you know, a home to do
something whomever it is.

1072
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,300
So it'll be really interesting.
All right Brian, let's flip

1073
00:59:50,300 --> 00:59:52,500
over.
Let's look at the o-line next.

1074
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,700
Tell me what you're looking for
because you're going to be there

1075
00:59:56,700 --> 00:59:59,900
in person.
You can be able to see it live.

1076
00:59:59,900 --> 01:00:01,900
What are you looking for from
these guys?

1077
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,100
So, the big thing I'm looking
for is nastiness, especially

1078
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:10,400
when I'm looking at the Gap
scheme plays, along that

1079
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,100
offensive line, I'm looking for
assignment soundness.

1080
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,600
I want to make sure they
understand where they need to

1081
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,000
be, how they need to approach
that block.

1082
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,000
They're taking the right steps,
they're not taking false steps,

1083
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:30,300
I'm looking for pass Pro, that
is at a level that's acceptable

1084
01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:32,500
at this point.
I think there's some guys in

1085
01:00:32,500 --> 01:00:36,700
this, even in the first group
that their past Pro is still

1086
01:00:36,700 --> 01:00:38,500
coming along.
They might get beat here and

1087
01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:42,700
there, but if we can see
Improvement, and we can see a

1088
01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:45,500
pretty Steady Hand in past Pro,
I think that's what we're

1089
01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:49,900
looking for.
And the last thing Looking to

1090
01:00:49,908 --> 01:00:54,100
see who can be a part of that
seven and eight man rotation.

1091
01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:57,100
We kind of know the first five
is pretty locked in.

1092
01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:03,100
So how are they pairing those?
That second group with some of

1093
01:01:03,107 --> 01:01:07,900
those starters in this matchup
and who in those groups is kind

1094
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:12,300
of taken the next step to really
show that they can be part of a

1095
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:17,100
seven or eight man rotation in
the fall and you know I'll ask

1096
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:19,600
this question to see if Do you
think?

1097
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:25,800
There's Johnny Jordan, do a good
job of making those around him

1098
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,800
better because I feel like that
is the key factor when we look

1099
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,800
at both spraying.
And then what we're looking at

1100
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,700
long-term in the fall, I think
we're going to find that out

1101
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:38,500
Saturday, honestly do.
Because what I think is going to

1102
01:01:38,500 --> 01:01:42,400
happen with I think we're going
to look at something like,

1103
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,400
whoever's lined up with Johnny
doesn't have Solace on their

1104
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,100
left, whether it be Bob shake or
whether it be just Hanson.

1105
01:01:50,100 --> 01:01:53,500
How good do they play?
And then I'm sure the coaches

1106
01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:57,300
have notes to say, well, you
know, let's say Bob gets me and

1107
01:01:57,300 --> 01:02:00,300
Bottles playing great today with
John, oh shit.

1108
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:05,500
When Jesse was there with Jonny,
Jessie was playing great, maybe

1109
01:02:05,500 --> 01:02:08,200
not so much on the right side,
that's where I'm.

1110
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,500
That's what's going to be
fascinating about.

1111
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,700
About Saturday's to see how the
linemen go.

1112
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,000
You know, is it going to be
again?

1113
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:20,800
I think you're 100%, right.
I think Johnny and Silas are

1114
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:25,800
going to be on opposite sides.
I really do think that.

1115
01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:28,700
But then what do you do?
You do you, do you, do you

1116
01:02:28,700 --> 01:02:34,500
booked in tackles and then let
you know, do you let multiple

1117
01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:36,800
guards?
Do you do you let do you let the

1118
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,000
guards?
Like let all the interior play

1119
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,500
together and keep shit on the
same side where you can rotate

1120
01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:46,100
them in.
I mean there's so many different

1121
01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:50,400
ways you can go with this and
you know brim process the day.

1122
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,300
He felt like the offensive line
has progressed has been.

1123
01:02:53,300 --> 01:02:55,700
He's been pleasantly surprised
with how they've progressed,

1124
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:59,900
which is a good sign.
Is it also a good sign?

1125
01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:02,800
A guy like Bryce, good nerd.
Gets moved to defensive tackle.

1126
01:03:05,300 --> 01:03:08,300
It's got to be right.
I mean, the fact that you're

1127
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:13,600
less concerned about the second
or third team offensive line

1128
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,700
compared to the second or third
team, defensive line that says

1129
01:03:16,700 --> 01:03:20,100
that you're in a better place
than we thought we would be.

1130
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,900
And it also, you know, bodes
well for the defensive tackle

1131
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:28,800
depth long-term and for good nor
getting on the field faster

1132
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,800
which I think is something that
was important to him.

1133
01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:35,300
Exactly.
So I'm going to be I'm going to

1134
01:03:35,300 --> 01:03:37,500
be probably getting here late.
I'm going to probably miss the

1135
01:03:37,500 --> 01:03:39,600
game.
We've got a, you know, everybody

1136
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:42,600
knows I'm not going to be here
Sports on Saturday.

1137
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,600
I mean, I'm Really Gonna pause
the TV.

1138
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,300
Maybe they'll get some back
angles.

1139
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:51,200
I know, Brian.
I think you need to be what West

1140
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:56,400
stands right side.
So you're facing kind of where

1141
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,300
we were in 06, where you get
that kind of that perfect view

1142
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:03,700
of the backside of the home,
puts in line, because the combos

1143
01:04:03,700 --> 01:04:07,500
are going to be so interesting.
Do they play with in?

1144
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:12,600
I mean does anybody jump out to
you?

1145
01:04:12,700 --> 01:04:13,800
I think that's gonna be
interesting.

1146
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,600
We talk next week and we talk
probably I'm not going to call

1147
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,700
you Saturday because you're
going to have your son with you.

1148
01:04:19,707 --> 01:04:23,700
You're going to be all sorts of,
but we talk Sunday.

1149
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:30,100
I'm expecting you to say a name,
like this person is going to be

1150
01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:32,200
in the 2D and I didn't see that
coming.

1151
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:37,000
Yeah, that's what I'm gonna try
to identify, see you, who is

1152
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:43,000
playing above their, their
expected level, like like,

1153
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,200
because like we said, we know
that, you know, maybe Jesse,

1154
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,800
Hanson aside the first five we
can.

1155
01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:52,700
Yeah, we're pretty solid on, we
trust them.

1156
01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:55,600
We trust them to go out there
and play and that's not to say

1157
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,700
we don't trust Jesse hands and
we just haven't seen enough of

1158
01:04:57,707 --> 01:05:01,200
him to know whether that's
that's something we can trust or

1159
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,100
not.
In.

1160
01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:06,800
Well, I think what made us feel
better last week with hearing

1161
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,400
Bob shakes name.
Finally, finally.

1162
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:13,400
Seth other than the, the five we
know about finally breaking

1163
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:14,200
through.
Hopefully.

1164
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:17,200
Yeah.
And if we can get two more guys,

1165
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,400
to go along with him, then you
got an eight, man rotation, and

1166
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,500
you feel pretty decent again.
I'm more concerned about Center

1167
01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:29,400
than I am necessarily guard or
tackle, just because I think

1168
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:34,800
Johnny Jordan is going to be
somewhat Unreplaceable in that

1169
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,800
offensive line on a percent.
I will flip next prime let's

1170
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:42,800
look at the skill positions, the
wide receiver and the tight end,

1171
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,000
we've already mentioned his
name.

1172
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,600
Once let's mention it again.
Connor blumrich.

1173
01:05:47,700 --> 01:05:52,400
I mean we expected him to.
I mean is he going to be no W?

1174
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:56,100
It's you just going to be all
over the place or do we think

1175
01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:56,900
you know they're going to stick
him?

1176
01:05:56,900 --> 01:05:59,400
It just tight end or just big
slot.

1177
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:05,700
What are you forcing?
I've seen mostly weighing in big

1178
01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:10,100
slot but I think he's going to
be you deployed a lot of

1179
01:06:10,107 --> 01:06:15,000
different ways across once we
get into the fall, once the

1180
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,400
Playbook is fully open, I think
he's going to be deployed in a

1181
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,300
lot of different ways but in
terms of what I think we see on

1182
01:06:21,300 --> 01:06:24,800
Saturday in the spring game I
think he's going to be deployed

1183
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,600
pretty much as a wing and a big
slot and that's not to say

1184
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:34,100
that's a bad thing that's just
you know, We're taking taking a

1185
01:06:34,100 --> 01:06:35,900
building blocks approach, and
that's step.

1186
01:06:35,900 --> 01:06:40,200
One is getting him where he's
comfortable doing those things

1187
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,500
and then we can really stretch
out, you know?

1188
01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:47,300
Okay, well with his skillset,
how can we get him even more

1189
01:06:47,300 --> 01:06:50,900
involved in the offense whether
that's in throwing him screens,

1190
01:06:51,300 --> 01:06:56,100
whether that's in using him in
the running game and using him

1191
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:58,600
in a in a trick play variety
where he's throwing the

1192
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,200
football.
I mean, there's so many

1193
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,600
different things that you can do
with that type of player.

1194
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:05,900
But I don't think we see a whole
lot of that Saturday.

1195
01:07:05,900 --> 01:07:10,500
I think we see mostly lining up
at the wing lining up at the, at

1196
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:11,700
the big slot.
Yeah.

1197
01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:15,000
So I think Saturday is just
going to get him used to being

1198
01:07:15,700 --> 01:07:19,800
in a game environment which it
was mentioned last Saturday.

1199
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,500
They did a full game Ox which
they're not doing this Saturday

1200
01:07:23,500 --> 01:07:25,400
because they're splitting
everybody up full game is

1201
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,200
basically who was ever going to
be up tops?

1202
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,700
Going to be up top.
All the sideline folks were

1203
01:07:30,700 --> 01:07:35,000
there the communications they
Did a true game of how they're

1204
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:39,300
setting it up to be in the fall
but I think for him is just get

1205
01:07:39,300 --> 01:07:42,400
him comfortable.
If I make some passes will be no

1206
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:47,100
running in the round with him
just so they can see where they

1207
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:49,900
want to go with him on Saturday.
All right.

1208
01:07:49,900 --> 01:07:53,800
Brian will give you seven names.
Distribute them amongst the

1209
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,300
maroon and the white teams
ready?

1210
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,200
Yep.
Jaden blue.

1211
01:08:00,900 --> 01:08:07,600
Even God's know, Caleb Smith,
Dwayne Lofton, Jalen Jones, they

1212
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,200
done right?
Christian Moss.

1213
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,600
We know there are more ride
receivers.

1214
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:16,600
These are the names.
We've heard more of than anyone.

1215
01:08:16,899 --> 01:08:20,300
So, Brian, give me give me how
you would mix them.

1216
01:08:22,899 --> 01:08:29,300
I would probably go.
Jalen blue.

1217
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:40,000
Right, and I'd probably go.
Smith Lofton, guys.

1218
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,500
Know and then you can put moss
on either side there.

1219
01:08:44,500 --> 01:08:52,200
All right, how about this?
You give you give them off to

1220
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,300
the blue team and the other team
gets gallo.

1221
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,800
Seems like a fair trade, that's
a fair trade, you know, the most

1222
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,899
productive wide receiver.
What are you looking for?

1223
01:09:03,899 --> 01:09:07,500
As you put these guys on their
team, is it the route?

1224
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:09,300
Is it?
Where theyre playing?

1225
01:09:09,899 --> 01:09:12,899
What's going to be more your
eyeball test on Saturday?

1226
01:09:13,700 --> 01:09:16,300
So there's big things like you
know, we want to see how the

1227
01:09:16,300 --> 01:09:18,500
route trees developing.
I think that's important but I

1228
01:09:18,508 --> 01:09:23,200
think what's more important is
How each of those players is

1229
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,200
being deployed within the scheme
of the offense.

1230
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,000
That's what's intriguing me more
like who's primarily lining up

1231
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,600
in the slot.
I think it's probably going to

1232
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,899
be blue and Lofton but let's see
what happens on Saturday.

1233
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,100
You know, who's at the excuse
that the Z.

1234
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,500
What are they doing at those
positions?

1235
01:09:43,500 --> 01:09:45,100
What type of routes are they
running?

1236
01:09:45,100 --> 01:09:47,000
What are they?
How are they getting involved in

1237
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,399
the offense?
That's more important to me.

1238
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:56,300
But I do want to see that route
tree and you know, more creative

1239
01:09:56,300 --> 01:09:59,100
use of the route tree than we
saw from the previous regime.

1240
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,700
Yeah, that that's definitely a
big thing is to see the more

1241
01:10:03,700 --> 01:10:06,000
creative youth we know it's
going to be a vanilla game plan

1242
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,600
but even vanilla game plans, you
can show your route tree.

1243
01:10:09,700 --> 01:10:13,500
I think you from looking at the
Fordham tape and looking at the

1244
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:16,700
Penn State game, your we're
already seeing the a

1245
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:20,700
significantly larger route, tree
and pass development type.

1246
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,000
Game.
So that that doesn't worry me.

1247
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:29,000
But I am with you in what stinks
about not having offense versus

1248
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,700
defense is like, for example,
let's say.

1249
01:10:32,700 --> 01:10:36,600
Jaden blue is in the slot with
Caleb and Gosnell.

1250
01:10:37,700 --> 01:10:41,300
But when Duane Lofton comes in
Jaden, doesn't even feel Jaden

1251
01:10:41,300 --> 01:10:44,500
goes to the X.
Caleb goes off the field, guys

1252
01:10:44,500 --> 01:10:47,900
know, that's what we're not
going to get to see because

1253
01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:53,000
yeah, see those different Combos
and from the way we've seen, you

1254
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,700
know, and we already talked
about Tyler bones potential

1255
01:10:55,700 --> 01:10:58,000
offense, there's going to be
things like that.

1256
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,800
Like, oh, he's at X, but this
guy comes in who's a better, ex

1257
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:04,200
he's slipping down the slot, the
why is going off the field?

1258
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,000
Because we're going double pipe
here. yeah, that's the question

1259
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,300
and we probably won't see it
because, you know, if we're

1260
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:15,300
talking about the difference
between The guys that are going

1261
01:11:15,300 --> 01:11:19,200
to be out there in the first run
and then your best three players

1262
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:22,000
at the receiver position, that
might be two different sets of

1263
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,900
three players, right?
You know, you might have a first

1264
01:11:25,900 --> 01:11:31,800
line that looks like, you know
Smith blue and Gosnell just

1265
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:36,700
throwing three names out there.
But, you know, you want to get

1266
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:39,900
lost in a lot of touches, but
he's going to primary line up at

1267
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:43,100
slot Blues.
The better slot, but your best

1268
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:46,300
three wide receivers Crews are
potentially Smith blue and

1269
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:50,300
Lofton DVDs.
If you bring Lofton in does blue

1270
01:11:50,300 --> 01:11:52,200
slide over?
Is that something where they're

1271
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,500
not necessarily going to be on
the field at the same time?

1272
01:11:55,500 --> 01:11:57,600
I don't know.
We haven't seen the Tendencies

1273
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,200
of that.
How the coaching staffs going to

1274
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,800
handle that?
You know, is it going to be the

1275
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,000
best?
Three are going to are going to

1276
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,300
get the the first reps in the
most reps?

1277
01:12:07,300 --> 01:12:10,200
Or is it going to kind of be a
mix and match, you know,

1278
01:12:10,208 --> 01:12:13,700
depending on who needs a blow
and the game Flow?

1279
01:12:13,900 --> 01:12:17,400
And what we need from the
passing offense versus, you

1280
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,900
know, if we're for managing the
game from a rushing standpoint,

1281
01:12:20,900 --> 01:12:23,300
it might be better to keep those
first three that I mentioned out

1282
01:12:23,300 --> 01:12:26,300
there and not necessarily have
blue and Lofton on the field the

1283
01:12:26,300 --> 01:12:30,000
same time so I don't think it
could all be dictated by game

1284
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,100
Flow.
Yep and that's things we're not

1285
01:12:32,100 --> 01:12:34,900
going to see until September so
you know book that down that

1286
01:12:34,900 --> 01:12:38,600
first game the Friday before
Labor Day.

1287
01:12:38,700 --> 01:12:43,200
Again we'll start finding out
those things.

1288
01:12:43,900 --> 01:12:48,500
Obviously, night in with Drake
and with Gallo locking down the

1289
01:12:48,500 --> 01:12:51,300
first two.
You know, who's going to come

1290
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:53,900
out of that third option.
I know a lot of people are

1291
01:12:53,900 --> 01:12:55,600
saying that's gonna be blown
Republic.

1292
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,200
I opinions blemish going to be
everywhere, so, don't guarantee

1293
01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:02,500
him as the third option, but
you've got guys on, you got

1294
01:13:02,500 --> 01:13:06,300
Saint-Germain already, you know,
already with the team.

1295
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,700
Benji, guys are not Steven, and
you've got Daquan right coming

1296
01:13:10,700 --> 01:13:13,100
on.
Do you think we're going to

1297
01:13:13,108 --> 01:13:15,400
figure out?
Who's the third tight end is?

1298
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:20,100
Because obviously this week if
gospels playing, you're going to

1299
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:23,600
have drink on one side, you have
Gala on the other likely, you're

1300
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,100
gonna have Saint-Germain and him
owner.

1301
01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:30,200
Yeah, I mean, the question is
going to be does Benji Gosnell

1302
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,800
is he had a point now where he
can play an actual scrimmage and

1303
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,700
do significant things?
I'm not sure if he's there yet,

1304
01:13:36,700 --> 01:13:39,300
let me last.
We heard from David Cunningham,

1305
01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:42,600
two weeks ago, he was still more
or less rehabbing wearing a blue

1306
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,200
jersey during these.
So I don't know if he's come far

1307
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:48,600
enough since then we're that's
something that we can actually

1308
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,800
get a look at or if that's
something that's going to be

1309
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:55,500
safe for the fall.
Now what I think is going to

1310
01:13:55,508 --> 01:13:59,400
happen is this is this is me is
that, you know, you're going to

1311
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:03,100
end up having Saint-Germain,
kind of being that fourth tight

1312
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:08,500
in third not counting kind of
blumrich for this spring game

1313
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:13,700
and unless he pops, I think this
is going to be right.

1314
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:19,500
It's job in the fall Ryan calls,
it take one rides, gonna be the

1315
01:14:19,500 --> 01:14:23,500
third tight in and the fall.
I mean he's he's got the

1316
01:14:23,500 --> 01:14:26,500
athleticism.
The definitely make you that

1317
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:30,400
joker to bring a little bit of a
change of pace to that position

1318
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,400
room.
So we shall see.

1319
01:14:33,300 --> 01:14:35,700
Now there is an upside to what
we're doing here, brown with the

1320
01:14:35,700 --> 01:14:40,500
split squats and all that.
We're going to actually probably

1321
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:44,800
figure out with the running back
room, who's in and who's out?

1322
01:14:46,300 --> 01:14:49,900
Yeah, yeah that's going to be.
We're going to get a good look

1323
01:14:49,900 --> 01:14:51,800
at most of these running backs.
You know.

1324
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,300
I think you're going to in this
format, you're going to have the

1325
01:14:55,300 --> 01:14:58,300
lead back, get somewhere around
10 touches, you're going to have

1326
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:03,500
probably one or two more guys,
get more than five touches in on

1327
01:15:03,500 --> 01:15:06,100
both sides of the of the squad's
there.

1328
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:10,100
Yeah so you're going to get
probably The seven guys that are

1329
01:15:10,108 --> 01:15:12,800
going to get at least five
carries in these in these

1330
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,000
matchups.
So that's going to be

1331
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,500
interesting to see who, what
they do with those carries.

1332
01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:20,500
You know we've heard Keyshawn
King is called the coaches

1333
01:15:20,500 --> 01:15:22,900
attention, the last few
practices and you know last

1334
01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:26,300
scrimmage you know is he
climbing up the depth chart or

1335
01:15:26,300 --> 01:15:30,600
is he still kind of more of a
situational and special teams

1336
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,800
contributor we've heard Malachi
Thomas has named a lot and

1337
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,000
they've said he's the most
well-rounded and it's picked up

1338
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,900
the offense quickly so he's He's
let's go ahead and put him in

1339
01:15:40,900 --> 01:15:43,000
there as the as the lead option,
right.

1340
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,900
He's been what he's he's kind of
one a right now heading into the

1341
01:15:46,907 --> 01:15:49,800
spring game by all accounts.
Yeah I want to go back to

1342
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,500
Keshawn King real quick because
with his explosiveness, with his

1343
01:15:53,500 --> 01:16:00,300
value on special teams, I mean
in, especially the last few

1344
01:16:00,300 --> 01:16:03,100
weeks out, he has been getting
talk more and more up.

1345
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,900
He brings value.
Yeah, he's going to have a role

1346
01:16:07,900 --> 01:16:10,400
in the fall regardless.
Of where he ends up on the

1347
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,200
running back depth chart because
of his skill set and then and

1348
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,000
then there's chance black, who
we know has value at kick

1349
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,600
returns 100%.
Malachi's, the most consistent

1350
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,200
guy book him as your one but
then they're talking about doing

1351
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:26,700
things with chance and 5 W sets.
Yeah.

1352
01:16:26,900 --> 01:16:31,400
And what your what I'm hearing
is there's probably four guys

1353
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,500
with the three we've just
mentioned in Jalen Holston.

1354
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,200
We're almost guaranteed rolls,
you all.

1355
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,500
Did you have Bryce Dooku's a
freshman?

1356
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:44,200
If he does anything great.
So there's really like, is it

1357
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,200
for for one?
Is that what we can say?

1358
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:51,200
Or is it for 42?
Between Hampton.

1359
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:55,300
Yeah, I think it's for for maybe
two maybe two.

1360
01:16:55,900 --> 01:16:58,400
Yeah.
And I mean let's go back real

1361
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:00,900
quick before we talk about those
other guys, but let's talk a

1362
01:17:00,907 --> 01:17:02,100
little bit more about chance
black.

1363
01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:05,100
You mentioned, five wide
receiver sets that gives you so

1364
01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:07,600
much flexibility with the hurry
up.

1365
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:08,900
No huddle, right?
Yeah.

1366
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,800
Because you can because you can
go 5 wide then you still got a

1367
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,900
running back on the on there
that you can easily slide back

1368
01:17:14,900 --> 01:17:18,400
into the backfield and keep it
moving there.

1369
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:19,700
You don't really have a
drop-off.

1370
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:20,600
Off.
No, not at all.

1371
01:17:20,900 --> 01:17:24,700
So that's the big thing.
But yeah, you know, you know,

1372
01:17:24,708 --> 01:17:26,700
the question we talked about
who's going to mix in for those

1373
01:17:26,700 --> 01:17:31,700
carries, but you know who are
the guys that potentially, you

1374
01:17:31,700 --> 01:17:34,100
know, could be looking at the
poor lift, they don't have

1375
01:17:34,100 --> 01:17:39,500
success on Saturday, you know.
We mentioned, you know, a few

1376
01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:41,900
names here.
I think, you know we got Brunson

1377
01:17:41,900 --> 01:17:47,700
we got Lee Hampton, Marco Li NG
Chris Kenji Christian, I think

1378
01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:51,200
Kenji based on where he is.
Is in his time at Virginia,

1379
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:55,300
Tech.
He's probably not as high on

1380
01:17:55,300 --> 01:18:00,000
that list in terms of Trent
portal potential just because I

1381
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,600
think he still has a year
potentially to move up the depth

1382
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,500
chart and obviously, they'll be
some natural attrition with with

1383
01:18:07,500 --> 01:18:11,400
at least whole host of moving on
after this season.

1384
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:16,000
So, you know, I think he's still
got a path to get some carries

1385
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,600
if not in the fall, you know,
probably some time next season.

1386
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,700
And whereas some of these other
guys, this is it, this is put up

1387
01:18:23,700 --> 01:18:26,700
or shut up because you're
getting passed by guys younger

1388
01:18:26,700 --> 01:18:29,500
than you and there's another
class with a new coach coming in

1389
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:34,700
starting next year and the
biggest piece is flexibility the

1390
01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:37,600
other.
The other three guys that are a

1391
01:18:37,608 --> 01:18:41,200
little older, which essentially,
this would be their junior year.

1392
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:46,100
There are Juniors.
Technically in the juniors are

1393
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:48,800
either retro, Juniors.
Richard sophomores by their

1394
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:49,600
three.
Not traditional.

1395
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:52,100
Oz.
Yeah, it's there's no

1396
01:18:52,100 --> 01:18:54,000
flexibility, there's no special
teams.

1397
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:57,200
You know, there's no return
value again.

1398
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:59,500
You don't normally see running
backs on punt.

1399
01:18:59,500 --> 01:19:04,200
Block units, or, you know, own
punt protection or kick

1400
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,700
protection units.
Very very unheard of.

1401
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,500
We're chance and Keyshawn, we
know, and we've seen them be

1402
01:19:11,500 --> 01:19:15,300
successful on the kick returns
when you don't have that added

1403
01:19:15,300 --> 01:19:19,400
element or chance black.
Who we know can catch passes it.

1404
01:19:19,700 --> 01:19:22,300
You're one pony and you've got
to do this.

1405
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:24,800
And when, you know, there's a
guy like Holston who's kind of

1406
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,000
the leader of the room and then
there's a guy that when the

1407
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:31,800
coaches are now saying,
Malachi's just consistent, which

1408
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,300
means it sounds like it's
something that you hold is

1409
01:19:34,300 --> 01:19:37,500
already talked about.
Now, like I said, if you want to

1410
01:19:37,500 --> 01:19:40,700
be, you want to be known as good
be consistent because if you're

1411
01:19:40,700 --> 01:19:43,600
consistent, what are people
going to say about you?

1412
01:19:44,100 --> 01:19:46,800
He'll give the coaches, the
coaches, love things, that that

1413
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,900
are predictable and that they
can account for.

1414
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:55,000
All right, Brian, let's flip
over to the defensive side of

1415
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,200
the ball next.
And let's start with the

1416
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:04,500
defensive line, much, like the
offensive line now, who's mixed

1417
01:20:04,500 --> 01:20:09,600
in with, who Yeah, that's the
big question, right?

1418
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,200
That and especially with all the
attrition and position changes.

1419
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:17,000
We've seen a lot of this is
going to be brand new names.

1420
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:22,600
Oh yeah it's going to be like I
know that person is it's almost

1421
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:24,300
going to be like this is
Camille.

1422
01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:26,800
I know your name but I've never
seen you take a defensive line

1423
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:30,300
snap ever what's coming you're
gonna have like on the defensive

1424
01:20:30,300 --> 01:20:35,200
- we like whole Nelson and jock
food on the other side for me,

1425
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,100
Paula And it's going to be
garment.

1426
01:20:37,900 --> 01:20:40,500
And then in between, there are
the guys that were going to be

1427
01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:42,600
like know your name, never seen
me play.

1428
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:45,500
Yeah, you'll probably have
you'll have gun or mixed in

1429
01:20:45,500 --> 01:20:47,200
there.
You'll have been a mixed in

1430
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:51,200
there.
Don't open a stretch Carol McRae

1431
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:56,600
that's going to be just just
fascinating to watch to see how

1432
01:20:56,600 --> 01:21:00,300
they blend that there.
Cuz we do need a 2d.

1433
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:05,000
We've been hearing CJ McCray's
name more In more?

1434
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:09,300
Yeah, I mean is he pushing for
kind of that second line now,

1435
01:21:10,100 --> 01:21:12,200
you know, we haven't heard
stretch Carol.

1436
01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:14,300
Having heard his name any.
Yeah.

1437
01:21:14,300 --> 01:21:17,800
So you know, it's McRae passing
him in terms of Too Deep.

1438
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:23,600
You know, who's to say, I mean,
we know, you know we got Jalen

1439
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,400
Griffin hasn't really done a
whole lot in the spring Eli and

1440
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:30,700
Eli Adams.
You know, we know that they'll

1441
01:21:30,700 --> 01:21:35,000
be there in the fall.
But Is going to be that that

1442
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:41,000
reliable second end on that 2D,
that's still up for grabs in the

1443
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,300
spring game.
And then who's going to be that

1444
01:21:44,300 --> 01:21:46,800
third line, which are, we're
going to need a third line?

1445
01:21:46,900 --> 01:21:50,900
Yeah, going into this season.
I mean, you know, I talk about

1446
01:21:50,900 --> 01:21:53,400
it all the time, you know, your
first and second line, give you

1447
01:21:53,407 --> 01:21:58,100
about 80 to 90% of the steps but
you need that third line to give

1448
01:21:58,100 --> 01:22:00,200
you that 10 to 20%.
Yep.

1449
01:22:00,300 --> 01:22:03,600
To get you over the hump and
we're going to Need that third

1450
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,900
line of that, that D line to
show up.

1451
01:22:05,900 --> 01:22:09,800
So we're going to need to see
what these guys have in spring

1452
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,900
so we can kind of know what
we're will be working with in

1453
01:22:11,907 --> 01:22:12,800
the fall.
Yeah.

1454
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,600
Going to be fascinating to watch
that and going to be fascinating

1455
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:20,600
to see who's paired with who and
who, you know, really, you know,

1456
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:27,100
who stands out on the defensive
line on Saturday line back and

1457
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:31,300
group.
I mean, I feel like brick pride

1458
01:22:31,300 --> 01:22:34,300
and they just basically told
Gionta Jenkins.

1459
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:39,200
This is your job.
If you go ball this weekend, he

1460
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:44,000
said, verbatim he answers our
potential starter at Sam.

1461
01:22:44,300 --> 01:22:46,400
And we haven't, we know he moved
there.

1462
01:22:46,500 --> 01:22:47,700
What?
About two weeks ago?

1463
01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:53,100
Yeah, and when I hear that say
today to meaning, that sounds

1464
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:55,500
like a challenge.
It sounds like he's doing the

1465
01:22:55,500 --> 01:22:59,000
right things because I don't
think Brent, prize, the type of

1466
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,200
guy that's going to say that s
word.

1467
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:06,200
Unless he feels the guys ready,
unless he's putting significant

1468
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,400
distance between everybody else.
It's practicing their he's not

1469
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,400
going to say this guy has
starting potential.

1470
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,300
Yeah.
Because he hasn't said it about

1471
01:23:14,300 --> 01:23:17,900
anybody else really that he has
started games before at

1472
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:19,800
positions that they're still
playing at.

1473
01:23:20,300 --> 01:23:24,400
So I think that that's going to
be big, you know.

1474
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:27,600
And when we looked at what what
Jenkins had done at safety

1475
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:31,500
previously, and even going back
to some of the tape with the

1476
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:35,200
Hokies all-access where we saw
coach am talking to him during

1477
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:40,000
that like it seems like
sometimes he was overthinking

1478
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,600
things and you know proud was
talking about Sam not being

1479
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:48,600
quite as much of a of a thinking
position more of a read react

1480
01:23:48,700 --> 01:23:51,400
and fast and physical.
Yes.

1481
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:55,500
And we know that Jenkins can
bring that and if he's picked

1482
01:23:55,500 --> 01:23:58,100
that up quickly and he's doing
well with that, I think that's

1483
01:23:58,100 --> 01:24:02,100
probably going to be the best
thing for us because Give that

1484
01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:08,200
position is key to all the other
blitzing stuff that this defense

1485
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,700
likes to do.
So, it's 100% true.

1486
01:24:10,700 --> 01:24:14,700
And on Sean Quinn also said
something about how that

1487
01:24:14,700 --> 01:24:18,300
position you have to be a half
Superman, which just tells me

1488
01:24:18,300 --> 01:24:24,100
you have to be crazy athletic
but it's also a position to me

1489
01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:27,100
and Brian were discussing today.
If you have a safety or a

1490
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:31,200
linebacker, that's a high
recruit that seems like the way

1491
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:33,100
to go.
Go after you want to talk about

1492
01:24:33,100 --> 01:24:35,800
starting time, first years, that
same position.

1493
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:39,500
So start thinking about adding a
future, you see a stud athletic

1494
01:24:39,500 --> 01:24:42,500
kid out there.
You know, undersized linebacker

1495
01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:45,500
at like 2:00 10:00, that might
be where they get them.

1496
01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:48,900
Say, this is where you can go
and be to debase out because

1497
01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:52,500
you're their athletic and work
your way into will of Mike now.

1498
01:24:52,500 --> 01:24:56,000
Get Beacon of Will, and Mike,
Bryan, we're split squads.

1499
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,300
So you've been, you've been,
we're not, we're going to

1500
01:25:00,300 --> 01:25:03,500
probably see Keller.
With Dax probably ski, Sean

1501
01:25:03,500 --> 01:25:10,600
Tisdale.
Is this kind of a time for

1502
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:15,000
Keyshawn, artists to shine?
Yeah, I think this is this is

1503
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,500
his opportunity because he wants
to take the next step as a

1504
01:25:17,500 --> 01:25:22,000
leader of the line backing unit.
This is a great opportunity for

1505
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:26,000
him because he's not getting
those like second team reps

1506
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,000
against second team offenses and
things like that.

1507
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:33,200
He's getting to lead his unit as
the mic one.

1508
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:37,200
On that other Squad.
And so that's going to give him

1509
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:41,200
an opportunity to see if he can
be that vocal leader that prize

1510
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:46,600
talked about because I think
tool wise he's as good or better

1511
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:49,700
than taxes right now and
definitely has better instincts.

1512
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,700
So, you know, we'll see what,
how that shakes out and that's

1513
01:25:53,700 --> 01:25:56,200
no knock on Dax.
I think Dax is a good player,

1514
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,900
but I think dax's role on this
team.

1515
01:26:01,900 --> 01:26:07,400
Obviously, I think, That vocal.
And that, that being loud and

1516
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:11,200
understanding how to get
everyone where they need to be,

1517
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,700
that's his biggest attribute
coming into the fall, does

1518
01:26:14,700 --> 01:26:18,100
artist, take enough of a step
forward in that capacity where

1519
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:20,700
he's going to challenge Dax for
that position, yet in the

1520
01:26:20,700 --> 01:26:23,100
calendar, for the position if he
doesn't challenge him.

1521
01:26:23,100 --> 01:26:25,200
But does he eat into it?
Because remember, he was getting

1522
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,300
some rough last year.
One of those words.

1523
01:26:28,300 --> 01:26:33,400
It's not like 85/15.
It's, you know, 70/30 like yes,

1524
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,600
it Situation.
If you've got to run heavy team

1525
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,800
you probably want artists out
there much much more.

1526
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,200
So all right, let's look at
safeties next.

1527
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:48,900
I mean you know we thought
people had locked up one of the

1528
01:26:48,900 --> 01:26:51,900
safety position, but then Mike
Hawkins gets talked about

1529
01:26:51,907 --> 01:26:53,600
yesterday.
So it seems like they're

1530
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:58,900
battling and they're battling
for boundary safety because it

1531
01:26:58,900 --> 01:27:03,100
seems like Jamari Connor has
locked up field safety, which I

1532
01:27:03,100 --> 01:27:06,600
think for some people, People,
they might be a little bit like,

1533
01:27:06,700 --> 01:27:10,300
oh no he's playing more of a
free safety type position.

1534
01:27:10,300 --> 01:27:15,100
Not not down in the box.
But you made a point earlier by

1535
01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:16,900
you talked about the guys plate
nickel.

1536
01:27:17,300 --> 01:27:19,200
The guys has the guy has
covered.

1537
01:27:19,700 --> 01:27:24,300
Does he have some lapses?
Yeah but he is a good player in

1538
01:27:24,300 --> 01:27:27,900
that field safety position and
we know he's a leader.

1539
01:27:27,900 --> 01:27:31,400
We know he's a dog, we know he
has the respect of just about

1540
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:35,500
everybody in that secondary so
When you hear field safety,

1541
01:27:35,500 --> 01:27:38,000
don't get scared, folks.
No, it's the guy that has

1542
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,100
already had some of those
responsibilities before.

1543
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,100
Yeah, I mean.
Yeah, there is, there is some,

1544
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:47,200
some concerns with I know
sometimes.

1545
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,500
There were lapses, in tackling
technique, they were lapses in

1546
01:27:50,500 --> 01:27:54,600
coverage, you know, he's going
to be asked to probably do less

1547
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:59,800
in terms of man and locking
someone up and more in that

1548
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,000
reading react.
And I think the bigger thing is

1549
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,600
that he's still going to be
coming down.

1550
01:28:03,700 --> 01:28:09,100
He'll a lot from this position
and so you know, look for look

1551
01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:13,600
for that to be something that
he's able to do and do pretty

1552
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,100
well.
So I'm looking forward to see

1553
01:28:15,100 --> 01:28:18,000
what he can do.
They're not necessarily

1554
01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:21,200
concerned by this move but yeah
it's something to keep an eye on

1555
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,500
for sure.
Yeah and today we really only

1556
01:28:23,500 --> 01:28:27,100
heard three names mentioned from
the safety room.

1557
01:28:28,600 --> 01:28:31,000
I'm going to bring something up
in just a second as we look at

1558
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,900
Corners here because we also
heard today Day.

1559
01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:38,000
I mean it sounds like DJ Harvey
has nickel, just locked down and

1560
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:42,200
there is a nickel package.
Yeah, that's what it sounds

1561
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:43,400
like.
It sounds like Harvey's really

1562
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:47,100
stepped up and is locked in at
that nickel, which means it will

1563
01:28:47,100 --> 01:28:50,900
have a true nickel package and
based on his bill and stature

1564
01:28:50,900 --> 01:28:54,400
and his skills.
I mean, that really matches

1565
01:28:55,100 --> 01:28:58,900
exactly what he what he does.
Well, so I think that's going to

1566
01:28:58,907 --> 01:29:02,900
be a good role for him and it
also gives him a chance to get a

1567
01:29:02,900 --> 01:29:06,300
good amount of live reps without
being thrown into the fire of

1568
01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:11,400
being, you know, a relied upon
corner for For the full four

1569
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:12,400
quarters.
Yeah.

1570
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:15,900
And we kind of mentioned it with
the safety, and we mentioned it

1571
01:29:15,900 --> 01:29:18,600
here that we have a reliable
forth.

1572
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:22,600
We heard Armani's name today, we
heard prions, and we heard

1573
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,700
Dorian as coaches feeling good
about them.

1574
01:29:24,700 --> 01:29:29,800
He mentioned Elijah as making
some strides, as well as cam

1575
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,900
Johnson.
But then he kind of said, but we

1576
01:29:32,900 --> 01:29:37,200
still need one more.
We still need one more and the

1577
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,800
way he kind of phrased, it was
in my opinion.

1578
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:45,300
We Could either go after a field
safety, and or a corner.

1579
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:50,900
So I think we are going to go
portal shopping after the spring

1580
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:55,200
or one of those and some people
would say, well, why would it be

1581
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:58,000
one of the other?
If we look at this system,

1582
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,800
Brian.
You know, we dived probably do

1583
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:05,900
than to it a lot of field.
Safety responsibility is in

1584
01:30:05,900 --> 01:30:09,900
man-type coverage when they go
with the blitz heavy stuff.

1585
01:30:12,300 --> 01:30:14,800
Yeah and I think that's the
thing that we're looking at is

1586
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:21,400
that are they are they looking
at bringing in a dog like

1587
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:26,200
essentially a 1-1 type type
player that's in the portal or

1588
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,200
they looking to bring in more of
a contributor and locker room

1589
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,900
type player to fill out the
depth at either position.

1590
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,000
I don't know if we're looking to
upgrade at corner or if we're

1591
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,300
looking to fill out depth I
don't know if we're looking to

1592
01:30:39,300 --> 01:30:41,700
upgrade at safety real looking
to fill out.

1593
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:44,100
With at safety.
I feel like it's more the

1594
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:46,300
latter.
I think it corner.

1595
01:30:46,300 --> 01:30:50,200
It could be the former, whether
it's looking for that true

1596
01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:54,900
leader of the of the secondary
to step up or whether it's just

1597
01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:59,900
to, you know, make sure that
you've got four super reliable

1598
01:30:59,900 --> 01:31:03,100
players that you can count on.
I mean, we know we got, we got

1599
01:31:03,100 --> 01:31:08,400
Marie, we got Chapman, we got
Dorian strong, and, you know,

1600
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:12,100
you got DJ Harvey mixed in there
at the nickel, but you Really

1601
01:31:12,100 --> 01:31:16,600
want to have, you know, a solid
too deep at the corner there.

1602
01:31:17,300 --> 01:31:19,200
So you got that five counting,
the nickel.

1603
01:31:19,200 --> 01:31:21,500
Yeah.
Where you can really rely on to

1604
01:31:21,500 --> 01:31:25,200
put them in coverage against any
any of the best receivers on the

1605
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:26,600
other Squad, right?
Yeah.

1606
01:31:27,100 --> 01:31:29,700
And when you talk about leader
and I've mentioned tomorrow, I

1607
01:31:29,700 --> 01:31:33,600
think Temari for me, he is the
guy that probably could emerge

1608
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:38,600
the leaving the secondary, just
because of, you know, his

1609
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:42,100
personality being a dog.
And I think we Will.

1610
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:48,000
We won't get a chance to see
that Saturday, right?

1611
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:52,200
Because they're not all going to
be on the same side but I know

1612
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,400
you'll probably get out there
early Brian.

1613
01:31:54,700 --> 01:32:00,200
But who is the guy that's, you
know, pumping them up during the

1614
01:32:00,300 --> 01:32:03,400
during the warmup, that's the
things I'm looking for because,

1615
01:32:03,500 --> 01:32:07,400
you know, we really feel like at
every level you like Dax is the

1616
01:32:07,400 --> 01:32:09,300
leader.
You, we're getting this feeling

1617
01:32:09,300 --> 01:32:12,000
a real college really in
Garbodor stepping into the

1618
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,300
defensive line room.
And the secondary because

1619
01:32:15,300 --> 01:32:18,000
tomorrow, I went back, we're
kind of missing that.

1620
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:23,600
Yeah, that mean battle the
council Armani Chapman has been

1621
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,700
both a vocal leader and he's got
the skills.

1622
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:30,100
You know, we've seen
inconsistency.

1623
01:32:30,100 --> 01:32:33,000
Be the thing that has dogged
him.

1624
01:32:33,100 --> 01:32:35,100
Yeah.
During his time at Virginia Tech

1625
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:40,800
has he cleaned some of that up?
And is he able to, you know, be

1626
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:44,200
that player that leads, by
example, but it is also the

1627
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:48,200
vocal leader for that, that
group of cheetahs absent freaky

1628
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,200
And lutely.
All right.

1629
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,700
Ron anything breaking additional
quotes.

1630
01:32:53,700 --> 01:32:55,500
Anybody tweet.
Anything crazy.

1631
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,800
I think we're good to go man.
We got, I will let you intro,

1632
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,000
but we got something special to
close this thing out.

1633
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:02,700
Yep.
We do.

1634
01:33:02,700 --> 01:33:06,100
So as we wrap up this episode of
The Boundary Corner podcast, we

1635
01:33:06,100 --> 01:33:10,900
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1636
01:33:10,900 --> 01:33:14,300
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1637
01:33:14,300 --> 01:33:17,900
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1638
01:33:17,900 --> 01:33:21,200
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1639
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1644
01:33:41,700 --> 01:33:45,900
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I want to make a joke to Jason.

1645
01:33:45,900 --> 01:33:48,800
I think Jason watches us,
occasionally and feels like

1646
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,100
we're the inside.
I don't know where the

1647
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:54,100
inspiration as the old men
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1648
01:33:54,100 --> 01:33:58,300
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If we are Jason will also be at

1649
01:33:58,300 --> 01:34:00,900
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1650
01:34:00,900 --> 01:34:03,300
So, if your head to the spring
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1651
01:34:03,300 --> 01:34:08,900
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1652
01:34:08,900 --> 01:35:04,600
long old man yelling.
Stevie,

1653
01:35:40,600 --> 01:36:40,600
Stevie,
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