This week your boys are joined by VTScoop Jack-of-all-trades Kolby Crawford to help us evaluate the Hokies success in the transfer portal. We then flip things over to 2027 and get an initial lay of the land for how the Hokies currently sit with many of their key targets for the 2027 cycle.

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And welcome back to the Boundary

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Corner Podcast along with my
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And tonight, our special guest,
Colby Crawford, Form 247.

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Colby Crawford has returned to
the Boundary Corn podcast.

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Colby, how are you doing this
evening, my man?

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Doing well gentlemen you know
shoot might have some later

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spring break plans going down in
the Moore river thinking about

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that intro video was awesome.
So appreciate you guys having me

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back on.
I always feel bad.

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I always get the invite so
cordially and I feel like every

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time you guys invite me, I'm in
a time vortex.

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I'm in Florida, I'm in North
Carolina, I'm in Charleston

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chasing some waves or something.
But we got it in.

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So looking forward to talk some
football here.

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Hey, man, every time we we hit
you up your own spring breaks,

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that's that's a good thing for
you because you get to step

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away, you get to recharge the
battery a little bit, do a

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little something different.
So glad you got to do that.

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Glad you're on with us tonight.
It's going to be a lot of fun.

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Always, always love chopping it
up with you, especially when it

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comes to recruiting, transfer
portal, all that.

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Man.
You do such a good job in that

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space, so we really appreciate
you coming on.

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Yeah, for sure all.
Right.

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Well, before we get into
football, let's let's, let's,

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let's give the old salute the
old rest in peace.

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Men's basketball season came to
an end last night.

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For those who are saying they're
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no, I'm sorry.
I cannot get excited about going

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to the NIT, not this year.
But Kobe, I know you were

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mentioning before, as busy as
you were, kudos to Kobe

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Crawford, busy man with all the
football stuff, makes it to six

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games this year, which is
impressive.

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Again, we know how much you're
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to make six games this year.
That's pretty impressive.

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But what's your take just from
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this year?
And we know it's not your the

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most, it's not your full name,
but we know you got an opinion.

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Yeah, I think it was around six.
I'm in that neighborhood.

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But yeah, I I think any way you
slice it, you cut it.

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Stakeholders, fans, players,
staff, anyone involved.

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I think we tell you it was a
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right?
When you saw what you brought

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in, how the roster was formed
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It was kind of like, OK, now
we're never a type moment,

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right?
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of Dallas who rated the five
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And you know, that experiment
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right?
And you bring in the transfers.

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Monty Hansberry, he plays out of
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Honorable mention gets dinged up
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Jalen Bedford, you kind of build
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just miss out.
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right?
It's almost feels like they've

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become accustomed to it.
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harped on so much, but Stanford
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left, SMU buzzer beater, Wake
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down.
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Tyler Johnson to lose on a last
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There was just opportunities.
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down I think 16 at the half and
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They had opportunities right
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It's it was just a season of we
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living and dying by every shot
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times and like who knows where
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It sounds like Mike Young's
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construction.
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definitely a very disappointing
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projected going into the year
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Yeah, when you look at the
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probably one of the more just
talented roster, definitely

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probably the the the best roster
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for certain.
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was under underachieving, not
closing out games, there was

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like something different.
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factor in there with, you know,
you haven't, you know, three key

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key pieces missing significant
time or playing through

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injuries.
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years where it it felt like you
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be at times, but they weren't
able to do it consistently

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enough.
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games in close fashion that on
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in some cases won handily.
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Stanford and that was the weight
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Like to me that was like the
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you come in and have such a
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The only two losses were right
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down in the Bahamas.
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You leads to an NCAA tournament
team in Saint Mary's, right?

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And they they gathered it back
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Christmas Eve or New Year's Eve,
excuse me, I was like, wow, this

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team's like they're they're
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do.
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this happen, it just it just
just.

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Tumbles out of control, yeah.
Exactly bad.

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They they fight UVA and it's
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Toby's going to be back soon,
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That stinks, but it's like it's
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adversity.
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you're looking and said we're
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We are better than Wake Forest,
we're better than SMU, we're

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better than standard.
And again, what you said, Colby,

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it's the heartbreaker, 1/2 court
buzzer beater, A3 pointer with

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two seconds left and then a
three pointer also very late

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against Wake.
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be a three-point game.
This game should be over.

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You're more talented than them.
I digress when it comes to that

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sort of stuff.
But basketball season's over

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like and you have Kobe.
You said it to every what

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everything we're hearing is
Mike's back next year, better or

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worse.
I don't know how that's going to

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turn out, but you know.
It's going to be hard to build a

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roster with what is effectively
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So unless we get a situation
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coaching waiting type
announcement in, you know, the

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next month or two where they can
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I'm very concerned about getting
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if you're looking at building a
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you're talking about
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guys that are only there for a
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May or may not.
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on winning the ACC, on making it
to the turn with their focus may

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just be on getting getting
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that next step.
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So I don't know if you're going
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a team with that, with that
mindset that can do the things

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you want to do from the, you
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out there and try to try to win
the ACC and and make it to the

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tournament.
It's going to be a very

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difficult, difficult path for
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Like I said, unless you get a a
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in the next couple of months.
We'll see, we'll see.

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That's all we can do is see and
wait.

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And in a way hope, because you
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happens because like you said,
Brian, that at least gives the

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stability of what's going to go
on forward if Mike Young chooses

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to potentially retire maybe in
the next year or two.

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All right, so Colby, we brought
you in.

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We've got to talk football.
We've got to talk recruiting

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from all angles, both Portal and
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which is just getting kicked
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So I'll start out here.
You guys, you Evan matey, you

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guys were the absolutely
lifeblood of Portal information.

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Those updates, your tweets, the
the tracker.

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The tracker is the greatest
thing you'll have.

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Like I just go to you or one of
y'all's page.

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Let me see who we offered.
Does it make sense?

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You guys crushed it in all
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So a tip of the cap to the
entire 247 and you especially.

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But I'm going to preface this by
some of the questions we're

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going to ask about the portal.
Some's going to be spin State

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Pacific's fun are going to be
not because we took so many Penn

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State guys, but let's let's
let's take Penn State transfers

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out of it.
You know, you got to get your

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list to me.
Like, let me throw that behind

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me because there's a bunch of
them here.

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Taking them out of the equation,
which of the players who landed

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at Virginia Tech, non Penn State
to me had the to you had the

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most interesting journey as you
started looking at their back

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story and where they were coming
from and maybe where they were

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out of high school?
Yeah, that's a great question.

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First off, thank you guys.
I appreciate it.

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The transfer portal is pretty
crazy those first couple days.

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I mean, even years passed every
time that cycle opens.

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Thankfully this year wasn't like
during the semester and like

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final season because you're
getting like maybe 4 hours of

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sleep, you know, your phones
buzzing, like I'm scared to show

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any loved ones my screen time
during that.

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So it is definitely, I mean,
it's a well, yeah, look, it's a

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it's a great time, but it's also
very wild ride.

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You're hanging on.
So it was crazy.

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Now going back to your question
though, there's a couple

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different guys like one that I
think of that I think not from

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Penn State, but it's going to be
an impact guy and has a little

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bit of a crazy journey.
Keshawn Brown coming from Duke

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had a very good season there.
Duke obviously the ACC champion

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and he was the one where he
camped at Virginia Tech.

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You know, it's from Kernsville,
North Carolina, I believe.

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E Forsyth High School, I think
might be talking out of turn

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there, but he camped at Virginia
Tech when he was coming out and

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Fontel Mines, I believe it was
that first year with Brent pride

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when mines was on staff and
mines didn't offer him that wide

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receiver coming out of the camp
right now.

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He goes on to Duke the in state
school and does what he does all

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ACC caliber player and then
coming out of the portal.

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That's kind of how mines entry
point is like, look, man, I'm

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sorry, it was a mis eval.
I should have offered you.

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So I think that's one that's
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Not from Penn State and I think
you know, he's going to factor

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pretty early right there in the
slot position.

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You've seen what he's been able
to do in the conference already.

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Another one I think is Justin
Terry, who's also someone I

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think he'd contribute pretty
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offensive tackle.
And his relationship goes back

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with Matt Moore.
Matt Moore's been at Virginia

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Tech now for a couple years and
Justin Terry was recruited to

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West Virginia under Matt Moore.
Now, when Moore jumped and you

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saw guys like Cal Tuner, Lucas
Austin and Tomas Remack follow,

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I guess Terry, you know, decided
to go to Ohio State, follow

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Tyler Bowen over there, go play
for Ryan Day and then, you know,

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found his way back to Virginia
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So I think that is definitely
one to watch.

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I think those are two names to
watch.

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Trying to think about some other
names.

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Cortez Harris, he visited
Virginia Tech in the past, edge

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rusher from Penn State.
Another one I think is the edge

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position continues to flush out,
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So I know we weren't talking
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Justin Bell, I believe, had a
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chose Michigan State over West
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I believe that was one of his
final groups, the Michigan State

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transfer offensive tackle.
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who else has a connection.
I think those are some of the,

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yeah.
Go ahead, go ahead, go.

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Ahead, No, I I think that was
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And then Eric Mensa, the last
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obviously committed to Virginia
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So just broad stroke, like you
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I would say those guys Mensa was
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oh, sorry, the the statue of
Virginia Tech and Ohio State at

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the time.
And even still, you know, it's

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they're still kind of on two
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James Franklin has raised the
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But you know, flipping to Ohio
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I would say those were the most
interesting storylines from the

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transfers.
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I know when we were doing a lot
of the kind of the breakdown of

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the, the guys that that were
targets, you know, Terry was the

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guy that we were really excited
about you not only because you

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know, the tackle room needed to
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You know, we saw the the lack of
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especially as injury stacked up
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Rebuilding that tackle room
certainly seemed like a priority

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for Matt Moore and for for Coach
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So excited to see him in the
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And I know that's one that
dragged on.

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I'm trying to think I know we'll
get into it, but I remember when

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Ethan Grunkmeyer hadn't
officially signed and people

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were losing.
Their minds.

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In their minds, they were losing
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There was a there.
Was a weak period there where it

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was like everyone was on edge
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It was right it.
Came out national like the

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national guy said.
Grung is expected to to sign

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with the Hokies and then radio
silence. 8.

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Or 9 days, something like that.
You know, it's been long enough.

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I'll tell you the the story on
why the Grunk News originally

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broke, right was it was because
for Beulah's agent had talked to

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reporters, right and said Gronk
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right, Because for Beulah was
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Now this was before anything was
signed, but it was well known

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right behind the scenes.
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came out.
So I mean at that point, that's

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why you make that reporting
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So now it's been enough, it's
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that, but throughout the
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this school getting involved or
that there there really was none

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of that back channeling going
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He was dealing with a a new
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He was working through, I guess
NFL contracts or something and

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then red lighting some items.
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And and that's how the initial
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It was right after, I think it
was midnight and it was after

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the Steelers Ravens game, and
that was after the Anthony

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Midget news is broke.
So that that game hinged on if

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Anthony Midget was going to make
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Man, it was just so hectic with
people losing their mind.

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I think it's this feeling right
here from one of our costume

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listeners, Jim.
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We aren't used to having nice
things happen.

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It's true.
Like we're going to get the rug

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pulled out from us.
It does feel like when when

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things start to go a little S,
we definitely are used to, you

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know.
Being it going really S being.

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On the wrong end of that.
So I think, you know, the the

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pessimism certainly started to
kick in pretty quick there.

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I just remember not not to cut
you off, but to stay on that.

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I remember I got back from my
trip.

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I I went out West like halfway
through it to go snowboarding

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and I came back and I still see
all this discourse and I

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remember I put in a crystal ball
lock of 10 for Grunk Meyer and

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somehow that got people more up
in arms like, oh, and it's not

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happening now.
I was like here, Let let me like

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settle some concerns.
I just.

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Remember, yeah, you thought you
were doing the the Lord's work

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there.
You're getting piled on.

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That's what we call, but I'm
going to calm the waters.

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Instead, it's like you throw a
giant boulder and it's like

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Jeezy, well.
Let's.

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Let's let's do this because of
the collective, at least this

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podcast, myself, Brian Talley,
Shelton, we all thank Ethan

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Grotmeyer.
Without a doubt the most

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important transfer, whether Penn
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But I think I know you're going
to answer this because you kind

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of you gave it away when you
were talking a little bit

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earlier, but which other Penn
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the key to this portal class?
Yeah, I know we were talking

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Luke Reynolds.
I mean Luke Reynolds, the one

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that jumps off the page, right?
Just without thinking. 5 star

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guy out of high school has all
the tools.

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Now, maybe he didn't put it
together in full force at Penn

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State, but this is someone like
this Thai house guy, right?

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And in early stuff and, and you
know, their individual workouts

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as they've been able to do
throwing now, granted with no

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pads on, no offensive install,
you've heard really great things

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like, you know, Route 3, like a
wide receiver wait is up there

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to block in line, like all the
things you want to hear.

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And, and you saw some of that
production at Penn State.

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I think that's a guy that you,
you know what Ty Howe's going to

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want to do.
You're going to see some 12

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personnel and this is an offense
and you know, you hear 12

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personnel and you think, oh,
stagnant, Look at what the Rams

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do, you know, like they run a
lot of 12 personnel.

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It's a pretty explosive offense.
They're they're still going to

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want to push the ball down the
field, But I mean, it's going to

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be very tight and heavy.
I think that's why retaining

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Benji Gosnell and also having
Luke Reynolds is such an asset

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because they're both great pass
catchers, right?

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They bring an element of
surprise and that's what the

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tight end can do.
You put in a linebacker on that

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guy, right?
Like you, you want your tight

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end to be a better athlete than
that linebacker creates a

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mismatch or or put a nickel on
put whoever like both those guys

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create matchup problems.
And and that's what Ty Howe

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continually says, right, like
any good OC is, is not the

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shaping and curating their
offense to the talent they have.

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And when you have that type of
talent in the tight end room and

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not to not mention Jerickies
Harrison, who had a really great

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year last year and they were
very high on that was a big

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retention get some SEC schools
knocking very aggressively at

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them that I don't think even a
lot of people gave, you know,

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like thought to.
So that tight end room is in the

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best shape it's been in.
I mean, definitely in the front

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pride tenure and probably even
stemming back a decade probably.

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Like I don't I don't even know
like it's in a really, really

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good spot at other Penn State
transfers.

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Like I said, I don't want to who
could make an impact

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immediately.
You have Gronk, you have Luke

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Reynolds, Keon Wiley at
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I think that's going to be
another one who's going to

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factor in that starting
rotation.

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I know over on Vt scoop.com,
it's like you think out loud

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because, you know, you hear some
NFL feedback of Cable Spencer

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wanting to keep him inside,
right?

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But he was sort of that natural
star in front prize defense.

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And he's come on like there's no
way he's not going to be one of

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the starting 3 linebackers.
And I think Noah Chambers

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probably has an inside track at
Mike just based on personnel and

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what he was able to show.
Wiley is probably a little bit

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more ready inside than to go
play outside.

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So if you want your best 3
backers, I think it's Keon

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Wiley, Noah Chambers and Caleb
Spencer.

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But it's just, what does that
rotation look like?

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So I think Wiley's going to play
a ton of snaps.

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It's just where does it fit?
And then the other one, Kenny

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Wilsley junior, they're a
nickel.

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How does that factor?
And I think it's going to be

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hard to keep Jamar Deloach off
the field at nickel, some of

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those other young guys.
But I think you're still going

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to see him take on quite a heavy
snap share.

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But I would definitely say Ethan
Gruckmeyer, like we said across

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the board, touches the ball
every play.

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You don't have to look far in
college football right now to

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know.
Like, Indiana's a really great

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team.
You go bring in a difference

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maker at quarterback.
Look what happened.

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I mean, there's, there's so many
examples of that, that

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quarterback just across football
at every level can really be a

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difference maker.
But I think Luke Reynolds and

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Keon Wiley are the two biggest
names from Penn State to watch

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for the 2026 season.
Yeah, yeah.

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I love that you said Luke, and
and I love that what you were

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talking about there with the
route tree in the passing game,

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because if there's one thing
that we collectively talk about

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and feel like we didn't see
enough is using that tight end

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to attack the seam of the
defense.

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You, you know, getting them
involved vertically in the

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passing game.
And I feel like, you know, some

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of that was if you're going to
do that, you've got to have an

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accurate quarterback because
that's a difficult throw to

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make.
So that's number one, right.

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Yep, you know, you feel probably
a little bit better about taking

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those kind of shots with someone
as accurate.

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That's showing the accuracy that
that Gronk has to this point.

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But but getting a guy and now,
you know, we we've seen Benji be

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able to do it in a limited
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Getting him matched up with
Benji now, I think that's going

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to, you know, pay some pretty
big dividends in the offense,

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being able to attack vertically
up the seam with the new

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offense.
And obviously I still think it's

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going to be a run first offense.
I I think you're still, yeah,

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everything's going to go through
the running back, But I think

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being able to attack at every
level of the defense with the

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passing game is going to be a
big asset.

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Let's flip it over.
So we we talked about the Penn

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State guys coming in.
Which of those non Penn State

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guys do you feel is going to be
the most important heading into

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2026?
Yeah, that's a really great

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question.
My head goes a couple different

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places.
We talked about Justin Terry a

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little bit at the top.
What is that offensive tackle

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rotation look like?
Logan Howlands going to miss a

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spring down with shoulder
collarbone type deal or labrum.

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So that that's going to be
something you know, because I

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think that would be a name to
watch, right, because like

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people had him penciled in
Justin Terry.

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Does he have heard really great
things about him early?

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You know, Johnny Garrett, how
does that tackle rotation?

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Because the offensive line, it
starts with those five guys up

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front.
Every, everyone's going to say

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that you can have the most
accurate quarterback, but it

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starts with those five guys up
front in what you want to do.

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So I think that's big.
Another name I go to the edge

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rusher position because when you
look at Virginia Tech a year

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ago, the offensive line couldn't
protect and pass pro and they

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really didn't get a consistent
effective pressure coming off

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the edge on defense.
And you lost a guy like Antoine

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Powder Island who had what, 15
sacks to his name?

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And you just really didn't
replace that.

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And, you know, it allowed
defense.

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It just put so much pressure on
the secondary and linebackers to

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make extra plays when the
quarterback could just sit back

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there.
So Ajabian Hilson, Sam Okolola,

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the late transfer from Colorado,
Like, dude, are those two guys

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are starting edges come VMI?
I'm not sure, but I wouldn't

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rule it out.
You know, like I've heard good

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things from Jason Abbey
returning.

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But I think those two guys along
the defensive line now you feel

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good on the inside.
A lodge fall, Kamari Copeland,

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Emmy Law stepping up.
Like you've got more experience

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there, but you kind of need a
difference maker at pass rusher.

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00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,440
So I think getting those guys in
the building and as well with

445
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,360
backfilling Aderika on the
interior, Cortez Harris, Malachi

446
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:24,360
Williams, like that's a premier
position.

447
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,720
And you just brought in all
those guys from Penn State to

448
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,880
play edge as well.
Got Dwight Victoria in here.

449
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,320
Shout out try to tell them about
the offensive line and, and

450
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,640
yeah, and like we, I know we're
talking about portal

451
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,640
specifically, but then they went
and recruited what, 7 in high

452
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,920
school?
Like that's the way it needed to

453
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,720
be done because they brought in
5 / 2 cycles with Ron Crook and

454
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,000
it's just not an effective way
to build out your board long

455
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,560
term because for for better or
for worse, some guys aren't

456
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,240
going to pan out, some guys are
going to transfer.

457
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,040
You just have to over recruit
there.

458
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,040
So I think those are some names
that I would definitely want.

459
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:04,480
So it was hilarious.
It was 7 freshmen, 4 portal, 11

460
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:09,560
offensive lineman in effectively
the first class of 27.

461
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,160
Like it was basically roughly
1/4.

462
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,400
Of and guess what Curtis, I
don't I don't know your plans

463
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,960
for April 18th or whatever, but
when you watch that game,

464
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,760
they're trying to get it to a
point where you can have two

465
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,520
teams now because.
And.

466
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,240
For the longest time, right,
Like you just it's hard to hold

467
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,600
even an effective practice,
right?

468
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,480
Like you can't even give your
guys good looks in practice,

469
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,000
right, if you just don't have
the numbers.

470
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,200
And that's the biggest thing.
It's like he said, how are you

471
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,040
getting better if you're putting
these guys on like you just

472
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,320
didn't have the numbers there.
And like you've heard of that

473
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,200
different ranks in this day and
age with how talent is getting

474
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,920
spread out with, I mean, even
with the rosters here in the one

475
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,680
O 5 you've heard like you can't
run effective practice if you

476
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,360
don't like.
So that's why you have to get

477
00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:53,440
those guys in the building and
build it up, especially from the

478
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,600
high school ranks, I think.
But to do what they did in the

479
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,640
portal.
Michael Troutman, I know you've

480
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,840
got a pretty good center in Kyle
Altuner.

481
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,120
I think people are really high
on him.

482
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,040
I think, I mean, personally,
like I think he's a really nice

483
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,640
player there.
But Michael Troutman have heard

484
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,200
nice things about him at center.
They've they've just completely

485
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,120
overhauled the room and I think
you'll see dividends in practice

486
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,960
and getting those good looks
that you want.

487
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,960
Yeah, getting the good looks,
being able to do like for Brett

488
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,760
Prize defense this year, it's
being able, I want to be able to

489
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,760
do what I want to do.
And I want it to be against

490
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,120
competition that might actually
slow us down.

491
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,120
Yeah, that is always a plus.
Can I ask a quick question about

492
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:33,320
let's go back to Javion Hilson.
You mentioned the war.

493
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,120
Yeah, Cali's not here.
So I get to get on Cali's

494
00:25:37,120 --> 00:25:39,280
soapbox.
So Javion Hilson coming out of

495
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,440
high school only one year ago
was a borderline 5 star.

496
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,720
When he goes into the portal, he
doesn't get much playing time at

497
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,080
Missouri.
It's expected.

498
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:52,560
They're an SEC school.
They are a pretty good school.

499
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,040
Last year, I think at the end
they wavered whatever.

500
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,880
But how does the how does that
go into the transfer ranking?

501
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,720
Because I think when when we all
heard his name, it was like, OK,

502
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,400
he's a 97, he's a borderline 5
star.

503
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,640
He's coming here.
And then it's like he's a mid

504
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,440
three star.
I don't quite get that.

505
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,400
Like, if he had played
significant reps, absolutely.

506
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,480
And he didn't look good.
Yeah, he's got to go to him.

507
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,840
He's not that.
This is a guy who was a true

508
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,040
freshman, right?
Yeah, He was a true freshman

509
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:23,640
last year.
Right.

510
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,760
But what what goes into the the
transfer rankings just so we can

511
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,000
make Tally who's hopefully safe
in Alabama and all the bad

512
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,840
activity down there a little bit
happier?

513
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,520
Yeah, hopefully.
First off, first and foremost,

514
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,240
prayers to Tally and everyone
affected by any of the Tornadoes

515
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,480
going through.
It seems like the whole Midwest

516
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,080
right now, but no, yeah, for
Jamie Hilson, you look at him

517
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,680
for the 24/7 sports ranking was
a top 80 prospect.

518
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,600
I believe he had a 95 grade on
him coming out of high school at

519
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,240
height, weight, speed measure
rules.

520
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,440
When you look at him, it's like,
Yep, that's a guy, right?

521
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,000
Like, I mean, you, you cut on
the tape as well.

522
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,840
And you see that now the
transfer ranking process, right?

523
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,960
Like you're you're ranking 3035
hundred guys in a two week span,

524
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,560
right.
So I'm not on the scouting team

525
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,240
person.
I know Cooper Patagna and his

526
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,000
boys, you know, I commend them.
I forgot I text him.

527
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,240
I mean, I've texted him between
now and then, but I remember

528
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,440
when it was all said and done, I
was like, wow, man, I hope

529
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,000
you're all right because
everyone's busy in it.

530
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,840
But I mean, trying to watch,
evaluate and get grades out and

531
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,720
all these players as they're
committing, it's, it's, it's a

532
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,120
very busy time now.
Like I said, things flip through

533
00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:30,400
the cracks.
I think they've finished with

534
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,920
the 87 transfer rating on 24/7.
I'm not sure what other services

535
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,360
had, but yeah, that's maybe one
that probably left a little bit

536
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:39,600
to be desired because he just
didn't play much right.

537
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,320
Like he was behind, I believe
Damon Wilson, who is, you know,

538
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:47,760
kind of a really good player
down there, sat behind some some

539
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,240
pretty good talents on that
drink wits his team defense.

540
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,200
So yeah, I I know if Tally was
here, I'd probably just have to

541
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,120
throw in the hat and say I'm not
on the scouting team, but we'll

542
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,120
see how it plays out.
We'll see if he's vindicated in

543
00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:03,680
that ranking or not.
I think he's going to outplay

544
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,080
his ranking at Virginia Tech by
the time it's all said and done.

545
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:08,960
Yeah, I mean that that's good to
hear.

546
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,360
I mean, you know, when you see a
guy that was ranked at high

547
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,960
coming out of high school, you
know, still very young, a lot of

548
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,960
eligibility left.
So, yeah, hoping that he's going

549
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,120
to come in, take the steps that
he needs to.

550
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,160
Definitely he's going to get an
opportunity which is, you know,

551
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,520
early on something he didn't
really get as much of at

552
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,120
Missouri.
So we certainly have a, a, a

553
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:32,920
hole to fill there for him to,
to slide in and and and get a

554
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,280
lot of opportunities pretty
quick.

555
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,480
Yeah.
I mean, 63241 like that.

556
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,680
That's yeah.
That's that's exactly what you

557
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,120
want.
That's exactly what you want.

558
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,400
Let let me ask this before we
kind of pivot to, to something

559
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,600
else.
Yeah, You know, you've got this,

560
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,960
you got this transfer portal
tracker, you're kind of

561
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,560
following all these guys.
You got all these conversations

562
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,120
going on.
Was there a commit that kind of

563
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,760
snuck up on you that you hadn't
heard any rumblings or any of

564
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,720
that?
And all of a sudden, you know,

565
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,640
you, you see things start to
come out that, oh, this guy's

566
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,320
coming to come to Virginia Tech.
I would say the biggest surprise

567
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,360
of the cycle, without really
thinking too hard about it was

568
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,920
Logan Howland.
That was one that was super out

569
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,280
of left field.
Really not much like worrying or

570
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,000
or whatever signs talking to
different people.

571
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,200
Logan Howland was one that was
kind of way out of left field.

572
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,720
I think I was really maybe the
only one that kind of caught us

573
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,640
by surprise.
And you know, he's a guy, you

574
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,880
know, obviously dealing with the
injury, but you know, you bring

575
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,280
that guy in to be a tackle,
right?

576
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,520
And probably be in that starting
5 somewhere Now.

577
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,040
We'll we'll see when he's able
to get back to football

578
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,680
activities.
But I think that was the biggest

579
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,240
one.
That was no real heads up or you

580
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,880
weren't really tracking and it
was just like, oh, wow, there he

581
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,240
is.
He signed like he's not

582
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,600
committed, like, oh, he's time.
So that was a real stealth

583
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,320
visitor.
All the other ones, I mean, you

584
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,120
had pretty good beats on and you
saw that in the crystal balls

585
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,760
and some different notes or even
if you weren't putting in

586
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,080
crystal balls, like, hey, keep
an eye here.

587
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,280
I'm trying to think about any
that were really off the wall.

588
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,920
I think all the other ones were
pretty wrapped up.

589
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,200
A lot of the Penn State guys,
you know, there were, there was,

590
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,640
there was writing on the wall,
but.

591
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,560
Ali's phone's working.
Yeah.

592
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:22,840
That's good.
That's good.

593
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,640
We we know that he's safe right
now.

594
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,440
Pause.
But I think Jacquizz White, you

595
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,200
know, that was one that was
visiting, But you know, it

596
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,640
looked like Tennessee might have
had the inside track.

597
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,600
But I think really, Logan
Howland was the only big

598
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,640
surprise.
OK, I I like that.

599
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,760
I mean, you know, when we looked
at the offensive line like it,

600
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,360
it, it had to be done like
there.

601
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:43,800
Was.
Oh yeah.

602
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:48,720
There, there was nothing that,
you know, there, there wasn't

603
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,960
enough bodies that you could
bring in and, and be like, Oh,

604
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,640
that's too many.
Like I, I, I wanted another

605
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,280
guard.
I mean, I, I, I know I talked on

606
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,440
here and I was like, I, I would
have loved to see one more guard

607
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,640
come in with, you know, some,
you know, some playing time at

608
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,480
another stop just to feel a
little bit better about it.

609
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,320
But you know, you got, you know,
a center now coming in, you got

610
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,400
a, you know, a handful of
tackles coming in.

611
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,800
I think that was probably tackle
was the room that we had to

612
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,280
address absolutely there.
Was and they did that question

613
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:15,600
there.
I think I think guards

614
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,040
interesting like Brody Meadows,
Lathe Ganda, Montavius

615
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Cunningham, those got right.
But like you need those guys to

616
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,960
stay healthy because it's going
to be one way or another.

617
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,880
I don't see a way where not all
three of those guys play a

618
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,840
significant number of snaps.
Now I'm not sure if they stay

619
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,440
healthy for 12 or 13 games,
great, but.

620
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,440
And they got the problem with
all three of them.

621
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,240
Exactly like Bernie, Bernie
still like just getting back it

622
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,880
sounds like, you know, like was
out since last campus just

623
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,720
getting back ready to roll here
before spring.

624
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,440
Montavious was obviously dinged
up.

625
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,760
I've heard really great things
about him.

626
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,240
And then Leith, you know, Leith
had the the deal two years ago

627
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,880
with the slain.
Like, you know, so it's just

628
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,320
been that revolving door and
then that guard like, I guess

629
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,640
you'd kick out some of those
other guys.

630
00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,720
But I see what you're saying
there.

631
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,080
I think a lot of these guys that
were listed as tackles in this

632
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,240
high school class will
eventually end up moving inside.

633
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,760
Yeah, I I can see at least at
least one of those guys for sure

634
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,920
moving inside and it it's nice
to you know, with the portal

635
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,360
ads, even with Howlin, you know,
probably missing most are all

636
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,720
the spring.
It's it's nice to have guys that

637
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,680
you feel like they're not
necessarily plug and play, but

638
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,840
they should slot in kind of
ahead of at least everybody not

639
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,360
named Johnny Garrett probably at
the tackle position with, with

640
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,040
with what we brought in in the
portal.

641
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,280
Yeah, I fully agree.
And I mean, no one's guaranteed

642
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,680
anything.
And I feel like that is being

643
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,360
relayed very clearly.
Like no one, no one is

644
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,280
guaranteed anything at like,
Logan Howland, Justin Terry, at

645
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,880
least I know Logan's dinged up,
but Justin Terry, like, I think

646
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,920
that's definitely a name to
watch here as we get closer to

647
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,400
fall camp.
Like if he can put it all

648
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:56,120
together, like that's someone
you know, I think he's the real

649
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,800
deal.
Let me ask you this.

650
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,160
Where you going to?
Say, Curtis, were you going to

651
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,560
take that one?
Yeah, I was going to take this

652
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:02,960
next.
One.

653
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,280
OK, Yeah, got it.
Yeah.

654
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,600
It's just you're looking at the,
you know, the balance of the

655
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,720
remaining eligibility with this
portal class.

656
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,200
I thought that was an
interesting approach that James

657
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,400
Franklin took.
You got, you know, a couple

658
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,480
older guys, but yeah, most of
the guys with at least two years

659
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:26,000
of eligibility left.
When we look at that, it's

660
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,400
interesting to see are some of
the guys with that a lot of

661
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,120
eligibility left?
Are those guys that you think

662
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,240
you're going to play kind of
significant roles at the gate or

663
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:38,040
that more of a looking towards
2027 and, and, and kind of

664
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,400
looking past, not necessarily
looking past this year, but but

665
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,760
looking beyond just this year in
terms of the roster

666
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,760
construction.
Yeah, that's a really great

667
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,080
question.
I got asked this on my show, a

668
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,480
couple.
It was last Monday, I think it

669
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,680
was episode 70 of Colby's
Corner, and it was a great

670
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,160
question.
It was like how James Franklin

671
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,400
kind of attacked his portal.
Like, I think this is by far

672
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,440
going to be his biggest portal
class at Virginia Tech ever.

673
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,040
And like when you look at what
he did at Penn State, I don't

674
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,760
think he ever took more than 7
over the last three years when

675
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,480
it's really been this transfer
portal era.

676
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,400
And all those guys mostly that
he took at Penn State were

677
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,920
contributors at their school,
like even either at a lower

678
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,320
level or even at a Power 4
level.

679
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,920
But guys, you know, you kind of
knew what their what their

680
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,520
standing was, right?
Like not a flyer, a guy with

681
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,400
three years left, more of just a
plug and play.

682
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,880
And obviously the scenario is
different here at Virginia Tech.

683
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,719
You're building out an entire
roster and you need to backfill.

684
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,280
You can't just bring in 31 year
guys.

685
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,040
You're going to be back in that
boat next year, right?

686
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,840
So I think it's definitely a
little bit different.

687
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,239
I wouldn't say that's the
strategy moving forward.

688
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,760
Now, for example, Matthew
Henderson in that tight end

689
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,600
room, they completely rebuilt
that tight end room to a degree

690
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,199
that Virginia Tech hasn't been
in.

691
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,560
But you've got Jaricus, Benji
and Luke already ahead of him.

692
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,560
But that's going to be a really
quality player soon, right?

693
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,560
So you you had to bring in that
quality depth.

694
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,639
Like I think of Justin Bell.
I think they like him at tackle

695
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,480
and you had to rebuild that
offensive line room.

696
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,880
Is he expected to play 600 snaps
this year?

697
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,320
No, I don't think anywhere close
to that.

698
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,920
But you know, they like his
profile to bring him in with

699
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,760
four years left.
Javion Hilson, I think it's a

700
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,520
little bit different.
That's the guy with four years

701
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,440
who I think you could see play
in factory in immediately.

702
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,040
So it varies a little bit, but I
would definitely say a lot of it

703
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,800
is projecting forward.
Now that's not to say that

704
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,280
they're punting on this year.
They still build out this roster

705
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,600
very effectively with weapons
and along the lines to go and

706
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,520
compete immediately in the ACC.
But look, I mean, if you're the

707
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,760
CEO of a company and you're a
shareholder, you don't want to

708
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,040
know that you're putting all
your chips in for Q4 like this

709
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,160
year, right?
Like like, OK, this year and

710
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,200
then you know what, whatever
happens the next the next cycle,

711
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,840
like.
All right, yeah.

712
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,240
But it's really funny, though.
Again, like we are looking at it

713
00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:53,080
and we say, man, we we we have
all these kind of younger guys,

714
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,520
multiple years of eligibility.
And then he's got to just start

715
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,080
thinking.
But there's Queshawn Brown.

716
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,040
He's got two years left.
You know how Long's got Two

717
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,560
years.
These are guys who have played

718
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,560
significant snaps in the D1
level in high level games.

719
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,520
And it's like, wait a second.
Well, if he slips in here and he

720
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,920
does this and he does this and
this guy, whoa, wait a second.

721
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,680
What Brian said earlier, the
issues where we had last year

722
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,880
were slowly filling in.
Like, you know, we're not

723
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,120
worried about the interior
defensive line that that was

724
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,800
fine last year.
Elijah Fall comes back, Kamari

725
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,360
Copeland back, you know, and
that's where it's like, you

726
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,040
don't want to get all your bags
in one basket.

727
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,680
But to James Franklin credit,
he's put enough in of

728
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,200
experience, guys, for this year
in the right spots where we're

729
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,920
getting a little bit of hope.
Like it's a little bit of hope

730
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,680
to say, you know what, if
certain things click, the spots

731
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,240
where we struggled with last
year are filled, Yeah,

732
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:49,280
Quarterback upgrade, slot
receiver, better tie it in.

733
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:50,960
You're bringing back running
backs.

734
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,920
We had really good season.
So cornerback.

735
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,880
Room, but then two again.
What you just said, Polby, we

736
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,440
couldn't put 30 players out
there.

737
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,920
God, we'll rebuild them again.
It's like, well, we could be

738
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,320
good in 26, but wait a second,
we could still be good in 27.

739
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,280
And then you keep looking.
It's like there's not like the

740
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,280
right now, there's not where you
feel like there's a fall off.

741
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,040
It's like he's truly trying to
build it out for a long term

742
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,760
run.
Yeah, and this almost sounds bad

743
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,360
to say, but it's almost like a
formula for successful programs,

744
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,160
right?
Like.

745
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,720
You recruit.
You recruit like 20-5 really

746
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:31,120
good guys in that top 25, top 20
ish high school rank and look,

747
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,440
those guys are going to transfer
out right?

748
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,200
But if you stack those classes
year after year and you continue

749
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,720
to hit your spots in the portal
and you get a quarterback you

750
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,720
can get behind, like the secret
formula, Yeah, you bring in

751
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,040
really great coaching like
Indiana and a high swing

752
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,400
quarterback and you can win.
But like these programs that are

753
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,960
relatively at the top, good
coaching, which Franklin has

754
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,720
proven to do was what, a game
away from the national

755
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,240
championship a year ago.
And, you know, bringing in

756
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,560
talent and evaluation, which
he's obviously shown in his time

757
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,760
at Penn State and, and, and two
weeks at Virginia Tech was able

758
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,640
to get their highest class in 15
years at least.

759
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,280
So like I said, it almost sounds
like asinine for me to say, oh,

760
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,600
well, that's but yeah, it's
really how you kind of need to

761
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,080
build it.
And I I think they've laid a

762
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,800
really good foundation.
They've built out a really nice

763
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,560
staff on the back end that
Virginia Tech, at least I know

764
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,560
Penn State certainly has had.
Virginia Tech has not had in

765
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,880
that recruiting arm and
especially even on the field

766
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,680
coaches with their recruiting
acumen, I think they've done an

767
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,480
incredible job.
And I mean, I don't see it

768
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,000
slowing down anytime soon like I
would.

769
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,360
This 27 class is certainly, I'm
going to be 1 to watch.

770
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,440
And I think, you know, they,
they've still got a lot of work

771
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,720
to do.
You're drinking from a fire

772
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,280
hose.
The transportal is nice because

773
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,400
you have all these connections
from Penn State.

774
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,480
That 26 class is nice because
you have all those Penn State

775
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,520
commits, right?
So it's kind of easy.

776
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,920
But now, hey, look, it's fully
Virginia Tech now, and you're

777
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,480
still getting your bearing in
the state.

778
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,040
You know, you can come down from
Penn State, and Virginia's a

779
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,880
nicety, but now it's a
necessity, right?

780
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,120
And.
I, and I think too, I was just

781
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,520
going to just throw this in real
quick.

782
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:10,200
I think too, one of the things
that Franklin has shown a really

783
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:14,960
high acumen at in his time at
Penn State in this transfer

784
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:20,480
portal era is he retains a lot
of his players in in those

785
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,560
transfer portal cycles.
So, you know, when we talk about

786
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,520
the guys coming in, I don't
anticipate at least at this

787
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:32,360
stage that, you know, after 2026
that these guys that we brought

788
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,800
in with, you know, 2-3 years of
eligibility are going to be

789
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,960
looking for another stop.
So you're really just talking

790
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,400
about next year's transfer
portal.

791
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,240
To your point, Colby, looking
at, you know, a much smaller

792
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,360
transfer portal class because
you're really only kind of

793
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,720
filling in those holes versus
having to fully rebuild a roster

794
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:53,880
and kind of compensate for the
fact that the 24 and 25 classes

795
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,840
probably weren't where you
wanted talent level, especially

796
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,080
at offensive line.
Without a doubt.

797
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:01,160
I mean that that's, that is the
point, right?

798
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,680
Like I think you'll see.
I think hopefully with some of

799
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,440
the stuff they're trying to
implement, you'll see more of

800
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,280
this like.
A premium on retention, which is

801
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,760
already right.
It's not always who you bring

802
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,640
in, it's who you keep, right?
And I think you're going to see

803
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,160
more of that.
And if that's where, you know,

804
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,160
really talent evaluation is
going to become paramount, and

805
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,600
that's really going to evaluate
the best schools who, you know,

806
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,120
thrive in this environment.
Appreciate that.

807
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,080
All right, before we, we're
going to talk a little 2027 as

808
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,680
we get near the end here, but
there is one situation if you

809
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,080
feel comfortable talking about
it and everything that went

810
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,880
down, the Kamarian Morgan
situation, what went down?

811
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:45,280
Was there ever a point that he
could have still been a Hokie?

812
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,920
Was there anything that could
have kept him here Because he

813
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,600
looked like again, he was 64250
look like a stud edge guy coming

814
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,720
out of Baylor.
But what hey, do you feel like,

815
00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:59,680
can you talk about it?
Do you feel comfortable that

816
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,440
we're far enough off of it now?
Yeah, I mean, like I'll

817
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,400
definitely talk about, I just
don't think like of all the

818
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,800
stories of like the Grummeyer
one, like I touched on earlier,

819
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,320
like there's some juicy stuff
that happened certainly.

820
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,200
And like I'll, I'll we'll have
to come back on and when I brain

821
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,640
dump it all.
But this one, I really just

822
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,600
don't think it was as exciting
or there was that much to it as

823
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,480
people thought.
Right.

824
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,720
So the news comes out that Kim
Morgan, he's already in

825
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,280
Blackbird greatly.
He's already there, but he can't

826
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,320
enroll because his grades aren't
there.

827
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:30,520
And, and I know he went back
and, you know, amended it and

828
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,960
got his grade change from
Baylor.

829
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,080
Why is he still not signed at,
at these other institutions?

830
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,200
Like it was really just an issue
of those grades and the way he

831
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,480
built out his schedule.
Now coming from Baylor, it's a

832
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,040
little bit tougher, but just
really like, you still have to

833
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,760
be able to get into the school.
And it was right after the news

834
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,080
drop that Virginia Tech was not
going to get him through

835
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:56,320
admissions issue with the
admissions process that a Big 10

836
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:57,880
school tried to trip him
immediately.

837
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:02,160
It was one look at the
transcripts and they were like,

838
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,120
Yep, no shot here.
So now I think a lot of people

839
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,360
were like, OK, why?
How did this go this far?

840
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,000
How did this not get checked
before?

841
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,280
But I honestly, like, I know it
was like, James Franklin must be

842
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,800
so frustrated with Burris.
I think it was an understanding

843
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,840
on all fronts.
I mean, like genuinely like

844
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,720
that.
That's where a lot of the

845
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,680
frustration is because you've
seen it in your past with Ramon

846
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,920
Brown.
I'm trying to think about

847
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,040
Hellcat.
I remember, I can't even think

848
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,920
of his name from down in
Roanoke.

849
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,760
I know that was another one.
But you know, there, there have

850
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,360
been multiple instances where
Virginia Tech can't get a guy

851
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,320
admitted and you see what he
goes on to do at different

852
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,440
institutions.
But this was one where he still

853
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,560
is not signed.
Very highly rated prospect,

854
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,680
right?
Did not see much on field

855
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,560
production there at Baylor and
then just did not have the the

856
00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:50,880
transcripts, transcripts or
grades to get in.

857
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,200
So really, I'm trying to there's
not much more beyond it than

858
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,400
that.
It was just they couldn't get

859
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,400
him into school and even other
schools that tried to to pounce

860
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,280
on it, once they saw that issue
and they saw the transcript,

861
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,240
they were like, yeah, yeah, we
have no shot here either.

862
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,520
So, yeah, yeah.
I know West Virginia was making

863
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,000
a pretty big run even, you know,
later into February and still,

864
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,920
you know, we haven't seen any,
anything official on that yet.

865
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,280
And you know what?
I hope like situations like this

866
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,040
shine the light on for all the
kids who are going in and, and

867
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,200
I'm not sure if it was grades or
maybe classes, right, But if you

868
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,600
are going to vision one, like
any of these kids, wherever

869
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,480
you're going, you need to have
that stuff in order You, you

870
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,200
honestly do.
And that tells me, I'll say

871
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,720
this, if I'm a if I'm a parent
and I'm about to send my kid to

872
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:42,240
Baylor, I'm going to be thinking
twice, like, OK, OK, you know

873
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:44,200
what?
We just saw what happened to Cam

874
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:45,360
Morgan.
He came down here.

875
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,760
He didn't get much PT, but he
got his look, his body.

876
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:53,200
He was a very high valuable
commodity and the classes you

877
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,760
made him take basically screwed
him out of going anywhere else.

878
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,960
Yeah, well, I mean, it's also a
lot harder going from

879
00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:01,120
institution to institution,
right?

880
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,440
Like privately public school,
like if you're going into Notre

881
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,360
Dame or Stanford, if you're
going to now, it definitely did

882
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,760
him no favors right there.
And especially the class had to

883
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:09,920
let it built out, it sounds
like.

884
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,400
So there's a ton of factors, but
I will say, like I said, I mean,

885
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,800
they're the athletes are finally
being compensated like they

886
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,200
should, right?
And we'll see what guardrails or

887
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,440
whatever comes about it.
But I think we can all agree

888
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,040
that the product on the field is
heavily influenced by them.

889
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,240
Great.
Still, until you CBA, whatever

890
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:30,480
happens, I don't even know if
that's going to come to to be.

891
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,960
You're still students.
And in this day and age, there

892
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,120
are more people and more
opportunities pretty much

893
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,760
widespread across the border to
online classes, tutors.

894
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:45,960
I mean, it is almost, it is the
easiest generation possible.

895
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:50,960
I feel very confident saying to
maintain grades and just kind of

896
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,760
keep that.
I know it's student athlete, but

897
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,960
let's just say keep that on the
side and and keep football as

898
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,440
the priority.
So that's definitely something

899
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,440
that coaches watch, right?
Like knowing, understanding and

900
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:03,600
talking to different coaches
about.

901
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,200
So it's a shame it all played
out that obviously he wasn't

902
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,600
Blacksburg and that, you know,
it, it developed so far.

903
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,080
But something that really both
parties I don't think should be

904
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,400
up in arms about.
Yeah.

905
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,720
Just just one of those things
that it didn't shake out the way

906
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,920
anyone wanted.
But but yeah, there, there

907
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,480
wasn't necessarily ill will or
anything like that from a

908
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,600
process standpoint.
It's just one of those things.

909
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,720
Yeah.
All right.

910
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,160
Let's flip it.
Let's talk a little 2027.

911
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,280
Brian, go let you go with this
one.

912
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,560
You'll let me ride with this
one.

913
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,800
Let you.
Jump on this.

914
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,760
All right?
All right.

915
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,200
So we're going to talk.
We're going to talk Virginia

916
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,040
now.
We're going to stay.

917
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,440
We'll start with the state of
Virginia.

918
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,280
We got a lot of Virginia that's
important.

919
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,840
Who are some of the early
favorites in the state that the

920
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:58,040
Hokies have been targeting?
I know you know, James Franklin

921
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,440
kind of had to hit the ground
running with with this class on

922
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,880
top of closing out 26 and
everything with the portal, but

923
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,960
who are those guys to watch in
the state that are high on the

924
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,640
Hokie board?
Yeah, I just said it on my show

925
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,400
about an hour prior to this, and
I wouldn't be shocked within the

926
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,040
next week if I toss in a crystal
ball.

927
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,880
I feel really good about where
Virginia Tech sits with number

928
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,520
six player in the state,
offensive tackle, Junior Sanders

929
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,640
from Woodbury Forest, top
offensive tackle in the state.

930
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,800
Woodbury Forest is a program
that Virginia Tech has made

931
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,400
strides in in recent years.
You look at Sheldon Robinson,

932
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,000
they've done an incredible job
with Junior Sanders for years

933
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,640
now, but especially with, you
know, James Franklin, he came to

934
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,040
that Miami game.
You look at Buddy Wagdome,

935
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,480
Hudson's LPWO very close with
him.

936
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,520
Take there from Woodbury
Forders.

937
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:44,840
I think they sit in a really
nice spot.

938
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,400
He visited last week prior to
Virginia Tech spring break.

939
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:51,560
I wouldn't say anything
jaw-dropping coming out of that

940
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,360
visit.
I just think they sit in a great

941
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,080
spot and I think they positioned
themselves super well.

942
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,920
I don't see anyone else really
making themselves get in the

943
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,520
mix.
He's he's on that first OB

944
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,560
weekend.
I really like where Virginia

945
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,040
Tech sits could see a crystal
ball.

946
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,880
So that's one which is obviously
another a nice four-star tackle.

947
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,880
You you you love that someone
I've been pounding the table for

948
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,640
to be, you know, rated properly
can ask Sullivan from the Saint

949
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,160
James Academy up there in
Springfield, VA.

950
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,240
You got Overton coaching him up
there.

951
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,200
I think that's one where there's
a ton of really big suitors.

952
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,320
I think he is very underrated
talent.

953
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,480
Even still with a rankings bump
in the state of Virginia, I

954
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,440
think that's going to be a
little bit of uphill battle.

955
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,760
Chris Whitehead, the number one
player in the state of Virginia

956
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,680
Tech, was not a serious
contender and Virginia Tech has

957
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,200
definitely entered that mix.
I would not be shocked to see

958
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:45,960
them make a massive run at him
to try and make a big statement

959
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,520
in James Franklin's first cycle
saying, hey, this is the type

960
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,800
level we're on.
I would definitely not rule that

961
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,960
one out.
Elijah Hutchinson, guy from down

962
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,320
the road from Roanoke,
originally reclassed, move down

963
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,160
to Georgia, go to Raven Gap Prep
School, and then come back up to

964
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,640
North Cross and Roanoke.
Like I said, you know, Clemson,

965
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:09,360
Ohio State, a ton of big suitors
there, but they're going to try

966
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,400
and get him on campus a ton.
Virginia Tech's going to be in

967
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,960
the mix.
Noah Glover I think we'll give

968
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,440
Virginia Tech a good look.
If I would were to put in the a

969
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,320
prediction right now, I think
Georgia's probably got the

970
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,520
inside track there.
They've done a really great job.

971
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,640
Carter Jones, Clemson, Clemson,
Clemson, but Virginia Tech's

972
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,800
made a big push.
But I would say as of right now,

973
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,760
I still feel like Clemson has
the inside track there.

974
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,400
They've been doing so well for I
feel like a year and a half now.

975
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,440
James Franklin has completely
changed the calculus on all of

976
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,000
these, though, and I don't want
that to be out ruled.

977
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,800
Like what I said with Chris
Whitehead should not go like

978
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,000
under the radar.
Like like James Franklin has

979
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,640
completely changed the view.
Like if I like if you got quotes

980
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,680
or interviews from these guys,
it's like, yeah, Virginia Tech

981
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,480
state school, but it no, it's
completely changed the outlook

982
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,480
of it.
I think Carter Jones will give

983
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,160
them a fair look.
He's the one who's going to want

984
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,000
to commit early here in April.
But I still like Clemson.

985
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,440
I think Virginia Tech could be a
close second there.

986
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,840
And in the portal age, you never
know, but I I like Clemson.

987
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,280
We talked about junior Sanders,
DeMarcus Brown.

988
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,920
I think Virginia Tech's going to
make a push to try and flip from

989
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:17,040
Roanoke from Virginia.
He's from Roanoke, committed to

990
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,480
Virginia currently.
I talked with him recently.

991
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,120
Has no visits on the books.
Virginia tried Virginia Tech

992
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,680
tried to get him on campus there
for a junior day, didn't get it.

993
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Ivy and Lewis has one to watch.
I, I, I don't know.

994
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,040
I thought I had a decent read on
it.

995
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,280
I thought Virginia Tech, South
Carolina were sort of those two

996
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,640
schools.
We'll see now, you know, if

997
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,760
Alabama offers, maybe that
changes things.

998
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,000
Ohio State, if he's a take
there, I think at the end of the

999
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,120
day is the one that if it
stretches out and comes down the

1000
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,200
line, Virginia Tech, it's in a
good spot, but I don't know, I

1001
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,800
know he's visiting Alabama.
If they offer and it's a

1002
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,560
committable offer, I could see
that changing a little bit.

1003
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,680
But I mean, it's someone that
Fontelle Mines has known since

1004
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,000
he was in 8th grade, been in a
great spot that one of that top

1005
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,280
OV weekend.
So I know we're just going down

1006
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,880
the line, but Kamari Hudson, he
was just at Clemson as well for

1007
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,840
the elite retreat, I believe is
what they call it.

1008
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,880
He was going to be up in
Blacksburg for junior day but

1009
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,000
wasn't able to make it was when
all that snow was going on.

1010
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:15,440
So like a four and a half hour
tripled.

1011
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,640
And in the books also, I think
an underrated guy there.

1012
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,920
I think he could be close to the
top five in the state.

1013
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,000
Actually just talked with him.
Hang on, let's see.

1014
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:32,720
This is live television, UVA,
Syracuse, Clemson, Tennessee, NC

1015
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:36,000
State, Virginia Tech, all kind
of in the mix, but that's why

1016
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,160
he's really fleshing out a lot
of the stops in these visits

1017
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,280
here.
Virginia Tech fits well, but you

1018
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,760
know, you've got real
competition there.

1019
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,360
So that's where these visits do
kind of differentiate.

1020
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,480
You know, people want to talk
about this NIL drive everything.

1021
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,320
Like nobody can kind of be the
decider.

1022
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,440
You're really close on a lot of
these schools as you come down

1023
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,040
the stretch.
And it's just my new things.

1024
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,280
Are you close to a Chipotle?
Are you close to like it's

1025
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,120
different for everyone what
you're looking for, right?

1026
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,640
But so that was his list.
I'm just going through some of

1027
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,720
the top guys.
Sam Faneuil, tight end out of

1028
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,280
Benedictine.
I know Ty Howe was in the in the

1029
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,640
CM, but his visit schedule is
not sure.

1030
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,280
I think Virginia Tech can make a
push there.

1031
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,120
They're also in it for tight end
Jordan Karoff from Ohio, I

1032
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,640
believe, Rycove, offensive
lineman Ethan Lawson.

1033
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,040
I don't expect Virginia Tech to
be in the mix long term.

1034
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,480
I think West Virginia might have
the inside track there.

1035
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,320
Brody McNeil committed to Ohio
State, I don't see them flipping

1036
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,120
there.
Matt Williams, corner from

1037
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,520
Norfolk, VA, I've seen him play
a ton of times at UA Baltimore

1038
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:33,560
scrimmages at Morey football
games.

1039
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,800
A dynamic athlete.
He was playing quarterback for

1040
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:36,920
them.
He's doing everything.

1041
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,760
Haven't heard much with Virginia
Tech and Virginia Tech's had a

1042
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,840
really hard time breaking into
Maury even with all their

1043
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,360
success.
So one to track here, Zavon,

1044
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,440
Ziggy Miller from Huguenot.
I think Virginia Tech's it's

1045
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,520
well there and then we'll just
close it out with a couple names

1046
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,600
to watch.
I think Derek Fisher, cousin of

1047
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,080
Michael Vick.
I know we had Dwight Vick in the

1048
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,000
chat at Bethel High School.
Really just elite athlete,

1049
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:03,480
probably projects as a safety
committed to Virginia.

1050
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,760
I think Virginia Tech's going to
make a big run there.

1051
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,480
They like him.
And then as well with Lonnie

1052
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:12,080
Andrews, cousin Jamar Deloach
committed to Virginia, you know,

1053
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,640
three-year starter at Oscar
Smith High School.

1054
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,600
Now, I wouldn't be shocked to
see Virginia Tech make a pretty

1055
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,000
big push.
They tried to get him up for a

1056
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,200
junior day, still pushing.
I talked with him not long ago.

1057
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,680
I know he's going back to
Virginia, I believe March, late

1058
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,960
March and no other trips on the
books yet.

1059
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,120
But I know Virginia Tech's
pushing for it.

1060
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,280
So that's, I know I just said a
lot.

1061
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:34,320
I just pulled up the list and
kind of went down through the

1062
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,520
state, but I would say that's
most of the state.

1063
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,400
Probably heat check.
OK.

1064
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,000
He almost answered that the the
question we had after this one

1065
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,120
nailed it.
Like, who are we trying to flip?

1066
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,600
And as I'm looking, it's like
that's the Eva guy.

1067
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,240
There's another Eva guy like
we're just basically trying to

1068
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:53,920
flip some of those guys.
But we'll, we'll ask that in a

1069
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,280
second.
But let me ask this because I

1070
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:59,920
think you mentioned it.
Chris Whitehead, you'll see Bird

1071
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,320
down not not far from me and
Brian in 20-30 minutes down

1072
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:08,200
South out of Richmond.
You said that's the target

1073
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,080
because you said the way I heard
it is that's the most important

1074
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:17,440
guy in this class because if you
get Chris Bird, number one

1075
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,400
player in the state, top 10
positionally Top 40 nationally.

1076
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:26,160
Yeah, stuck.
What, what has to happen is

1077
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,280
there, does there have to be
breaks?

1078
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:33,040
Is what has to happen to Landon,
you think?

1079
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,120
Well, I mean, it's perception,
right?

1080
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,200
Like I think that's the biggest
thing.

1081
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,440
Like you can have rankings, your
own eval of them or whatever,

1082
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,000
but you see that number one next
to his name and like better or

1083
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,640
for worse in this day and age
that that goes a long way

1084
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,840
socially, just just in general,
you know, like it just does

1085
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,240
matter.
It just really does.

1086
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:52,960
And like, I think that's why
it's such a big deal.

1087
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,360
It's because they want to cement
and stamp, Hey, this is Virginia

1088
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,400
Tech.
We're not coming into our

1089
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:59,080
backyard anymore.
I know Virginia Tech hasn't been

1090
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,360
accustomed to getting that
number one guy in the class for

1091
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,240
cycles and cycles, but this is
the way it is around here.

1092
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,560
What does it take?
It takes an IL, right like that.

1093
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,800
That's obviously a really big
factor in these recruitments.

1094
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,160
It takes staying consistent.
You get them on that first

1095
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,760
official visit weekend, which is
a really big sign already in the

1096
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,640
open periods, connecting with
them, getting them up for a

1097
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,360
spring visit.
You know, Richmond, shoot, I've

1098
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,120
been making the trip Richmond to
Blacksburg here a lot recently.

1099
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,080
It's not that bad.
You can get them on for spring

1100
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,800
practice, get them up for the
spring game, you know, just

1101
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,240
working those details out.
So I think it's that.

1102
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,400
And then obviously in this day
and age, nil, right?

1103
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,160
They position themselves super
big.

1104
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,000
And I think, you know, showing
your vision.

1105
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,600
I said James Franklin changed
the calculus like these.

1106
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,160
You can do everything right.
But if they don't believe in

1107
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,160
your vision, then they believe
Brent Pryor's a lame duck.

1108
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,200
And they they kind of see their
writing on the wall.

1109
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,840
Yeah, that's a really tough hill
to come down from.

1110
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,200
But James Franklin, they can see
what he's building, the changes

1111
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,360
in merriment, what what he's
sort of pitching.

1112
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,040
I think that's the biggest thing
with him.

1113
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,600
And I I honestly wouldn't rule
it out.

1114
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,800
Like, I'm not coming on here
blowing smoke like Noah Glover.

1115
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,400
I don't see Virginia Tech
getting in the mix with Canas

1116
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,680
Sullivan.
I I could see it.

1117
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:08,560
I think he's going to have some
really big suitors.

1118
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,600
Carter Jones.
I don't know if Virginia Tech's

1119
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,760
going to do it, but I think
Chris Whitehead is 1 where

1120
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:14,680
they're they're certainly in the
mix.

1121
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,520
And only not only for the fact
of that number one ranking,

1122
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,280
Nexter's name, they believe in
the eval.

1123
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,720
Like, yeah, OK, 6324 like, yeah,
that's a pretty good prospect,

1124
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:25,680
right?
Like, but someone, especially

1125
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,800
with that ranking, with that
stature, that standing, it's

1126
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,000
like it's kind of just putting
the whole state and and you

1127
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,240
know, the whole Mid-Atlantic,
the whole ACC, the whole

1128
00:55:35,240 --> 00:55:38,080
whatever coastline on notice,
like, all right, you're not

1129
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,760
going to come into our backyard
anymore.

1130
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,360
This is what is to be expected
with this staff.

1131
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,440
Let's talk about that a little
bit more because you know, you,

1132
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:49,080
you get a guy like Whitehead say
say that that comes to fruition.

1133
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:55,000
What are the tailwinds attached
to that from a just a 26 class

1134
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:56,880
and potentially even looking
forward to 27?

1135
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,680
I know someone like a like a
Carter. 2728 Brown, 26, has

1136
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,080
already signed.
Yeah, sorry, 2728.

1137
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,880
My bet.
What?

1138
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,000
What does that look like?
I know somebody like a Carter

1139
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:12,280
Jones who's committing in the
next month and 1/2 or so, you

1140
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,920
know, that may not play a factor
in his recruiting, but would

1141
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,360
something like that have
tailwinds for the 27 class and

1142
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,160
how would how would that play
for 28 as well?

1143
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:20,720
Without a doubt, that's what I'm
saying.

1144
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:23,720
Like it, it's so massive, not
only for 27 because you get that

1145
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:26,240
guy he rallies in, but I'm just
talking about 28 projecting for

1146
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:28,120
the guy in middle school right
now who's in Virginia or

1147
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,040
whatever.
Like it's, it's great because

1148
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,240
it's my business, right?
Like the, the, the graphic

1149
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:35,320
culture where you're on
Instagram or Twitter and you see

1150
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,040
this big #1 Virginia going to
Virginia Tech.

1151
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,000
But that's what it is.
It's perception.

1152
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,120
It matters because that for a
lot of people, that's their

1153
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,840
first touch point with Virginia
Tech or, or that program.

1154
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,480
Like, oh, wow, I didn't know
that.

1155
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,560
Like when you see Jared Curtis
go to Vanderbilt or shoot, what

1156
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:55,360
was the other one?
Deshawn Henderson to Houston or

1157
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,800
there's another one where is AI
mean?

1158
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,360
Even Fernando Mendoza to Indiana
or something like that, that

1159
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,000
stature where it's like that
guy's going to this program that

1160
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,040
hasn't, you know, kind of
recruited at that clip.

1161
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,560
Now you see USC, Michigan,
Alabama, Georgia getting those

1162
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,640
guys like, OK, But when you
start to see continued success

1163
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,920
on the trail, it's like, wow, we
can stay close to home.

1164
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,800
We can represent our state at a
program that's invested at in US

1165
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,240
at a younger age as opposed to
out of state schools.

1166
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,320
Just naturally, like if Virginia
Tech is not on guys in the state

1167
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,440
of Virginia before every other
school, then that's on them,

1168
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,760
right?
Like you, you can't let those

1169
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,720
guys go walking.
So I think that's why it's so

1170
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,120
big.
And yeah, 20 eights, 20 nines,

1171
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,160
30s, seeing that, parlaying that
down the road, it's super big

1172
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,680
and and especially in the 27
class, I wouldn't say he's like

1173
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,440
the most vocal guy, but if you
get that, it's like, OK, like

1174
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,560
we're doing this now.
It's not a two year, three-year

1175
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,080
rebuild.
Like they're they're really

1176
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,200
getting after it right now.
Let's let's go hop on the

1177
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,560
bandwagon.
Love that Curtis, what you got.

1178
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:58,480
Well, I'll ask this because you
mentioned them all.

1179
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,440
If you had one guy to currently
say that was committed and I'm

1180
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,200
going to go UVA because the ones
you mentioned are committed, who

1181
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,480
flips?
Who's the do you think your

1182
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,080
quickest flip is there?
So I listed DeMarcus Brown,

1183
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,480
Derek Fisher and Lonnie Andrews.
Correct.

1184
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:22,360
Yeah, we listened those 3.
See, I, I think Derek, I don't

1185
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,840
know, man, I would between, I
would say Derek Fisher.

1186
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,360
I don't know about Lonnie
Andrews, though, because that

1187
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,000
quarterback board's going to
have to shape out.

1188
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,600
But I mean, like to go play with
your cousin, right?

1189
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,320
You know, like, and then if
you're Derek Fisher, right,

1190
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,720
like, you know who your, your
cousin is in Virginia Tech, like

1191
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,840
both those guys, I feel like
there's a familial draw there,

1192
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,360
right?
Like, and I, I for Lonnie, I

1193
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:44,800
think a lot about Jamari
Deloach.

1194
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,040
Like he was committed to sensing
like that was so weird.

1195
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,560
I remember this is such a weird
anecdote.

1196
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,160
Side note, but I was in Disney
World for my sister's birthday

1197
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,760
and I'm on the phone with Evan G
Watkins, like about to put in a

1198
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,600
crystal ball for Jamario to
Virginia Tech.

1199
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,880
And it was just so weird the way
that whole thing went where

1200
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,160
Michigan was on and then it died
down.

1201
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,600
It was going to be Virginia Tech
fully and then Cincinnati.

1202
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,960
And he commits to Cincinnati and
it never felt right, like even

1203
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,560
me like covering his
recruitment, going to state

1204
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,680
track meets and everything was
just like Cincinnati, what

1205
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,280
happened?
And then there was a really big

1206
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,760
flip like I remember like still,
it was be one of my favorite

1207
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,920
signing day memories ever.
Like breaking the news of his

1208
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,480
flip right there, right.
Like talk like that was insane.

1209
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,240
One of my honestly probably my
favorite signing day moment of

1210
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,200
my life.
So like so far just breaking

1211
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,760
that because, you know, that was
a recruitment I feel like I was

1212
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,880
closest with in that 25 class
and it never felt right.

1213
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,440
And it came all the way full
circle.

1214
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,520
And, you know, I just feel like,
I just feel like I'm maybe this

1215
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,000
is just me feeling remnants of
that with Lonnie Andrews.

1216
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,440
But yeah, you know what?
I was going to say Derek Fisher,

1217
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:46,720
but give me Lonnie Andrews.
I think that's one.

1218
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:48,960
I think that's one to watch
there at the quarterback

1219
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,040
position.
Awesome.

1220
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,280
All right.
So I'll, I'll, I'll switch gears

1221
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,760
a little bit with the offers
that are being reported right

1222
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,960
now, kind of where things are
standing, which areas outside of

1223
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:06,080
Virginia have been the kind of
heaviest focus for James

1224
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:10,120
Franklin for this 27 cycle?
I would say it's pretty spread

1225
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,360
out, but you know, like his
connections up in the northern

1226
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:17,480
Mid-Atlantic region,
Pennsylvania, Philly area, a lot

1227
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,440
of prep schools in their jersey
into Ohio.

1228
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,000
But then you've got guys on the
staff like Coach Chaos who's

1229
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,440
down in Texas sending out a ton
of offers, Midget Anthony

1230
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,280
Midget's down in Florida sending
out offers.

1231
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,080
You got Norville McKenzie in
South Carolina.

1232
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:35,480
But I would say a lot of it is
focused in that DMV into

1233
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,200
Pennsylvania area just because
those are the high schools and

1234
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,000
the coaches and the
relationships they've been

1235
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,200
naturally closest with for the
last decade, right?

1236
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:47,080
So I would say outside of
Virginia, it would be mostly in

1237
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,920
that Northern DMV into
Pennsylvania and then extending

1238
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,960
outside of that Ohio and then
parts of the Southeast Florida,

1239
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,840
South Carolina, Georgia with
Norville McKenzie kind of

1240
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,520
driving that train.
And obviously, shoot, I can't

1241
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,200
even leave out North Carolina.
I would really just kind of say

1242
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,960
almost up and down the East
Coast from Pennsylvania down and

1243
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,200
into really Ohio and parts of
Texas.

1244
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,760
Outside of that, you won't see
much except for quarterbacks,

1245
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,480
but I feel like they've made
that their territory, right?

1246
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:17,800
Like they'll go Pennsylvania.
How in that DC region, you've

1247
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,200
obviously got the state of
Virginia, North Carolina, you've

1248
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:25,160
got guys South Carolina,
Georgia, Florida and yeah, I

1249
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,280
mean, but shoot, they've been in
offering guys in Alabama, I

1250
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:30,000
would say mostly North Carolina
and then up through

1251
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,520
Pennsylvania.
And some of those guys it'll be

1252
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,120
interesting like because they're
they're always changing the

1253
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:38,080
areas and regions.
Like I know right now I think

1254
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,400
Anthony Midget has Florida.
I think how is the DMV?

1255
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,600
O'Brien has North Carolina, I
think Norville has South

1256
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,800
Carolina and Georgia.
I don't know where Spencer is.

1257
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,400
Maybe part of Virginia and Texas
still.

1258
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,120
So it's changing, but yeah, I
mean, it's definitely wider than

1259
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,000
just a six hour radius that
Virginia Tech's been accustomed

1260
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:02,080
to, yeah.
Brian, you had something like

1261
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,680
Brian, literally Brian wrote
this like an hour before you

1262
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,600
jumped on.
But Brian?

1263
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,720
Yeah, I was just going to like,
you know, you talked about the

1264
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:15,120
six hour radius.
One of the things Coach Franklin

1265
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,920
said when he got on board is
that, you know, if you're going

1266
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:22,120
to compete for College Football
Playoff, you can't just recruit

1267
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,440
in the six hour radius.
You got to look, you know, you

1268
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,280
got to be able to recruit
nationally if you're going to be

1269
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,640
relevant.
Yeah.

1270
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:31,880
You know, you mentioned Texas
is, is there other other areas

1271
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,240
that you know, just from a
national perspective where

1272
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:37,400
you're seeing kind of maybe even
just one offs of, of guys

1273
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,640
getting offered kind of outside
of that traditional footprint

1274
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,720
that Virginia has been looking
at, you know, kind of up and

1275
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,320
down the East Coast?
Yeah, I would say 1 offs.

1276
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,640
It's not like state of
Washington or Oregon, right?

1277
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:53,360
It was Alabama in the parts of
Alabama, Louisiana.

1278
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,400
I mean, those states are so hard
to crack into when you know the

1279
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,800
state schools and how those guys
get their talent, right?

1280
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:01,200
Like was saving Alabama even
Gene Chisek at Alabama, even

1281
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,640
shoot who?
Gosh, Gus Malzahn, how can I not

1282
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,520
think of his name like those
guys?

1283
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,080
Like I feel like when you would
go during those 10 years at

1284
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,520
Auburn and Alabama, it was the
state of Alabama rankings

1285
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,080
Alabama, Alabama, Alabama,
Auburn, AL Alabama lake and

1286
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:20,280
Louisiana the same you had the
tigers logo LSULSULSU pretty

1287
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,920
much for all of them.
You know, like I feel like those

1288
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,120
states are kind of the the
marquee of like keeping in state

1289
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,200
talent home and now they're very
talent rich states.

1290
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,800
But I would say a couple of
offers shout out, shout out

1291
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,040
there Missouri, nothing too
crazy.

1292
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,600
Some in California, just because
if you want those big national

1293
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,200
recruits, you got a lot of big
schools out there.

1294
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:43,320
Mattered to some big schools.
A lot of.

1295
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,040
Quarterbacks, some offers out in
Utah.

1296
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:46,240
What'd you say?
A lot.

1297
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,160
Of quarterbacks out.
There in California, Yeah.

1298
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,080
I was about to say that's the
other thing is like, but like,

1299
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:52,840
yeah, naturally you're going to
go find some.

1300
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,640
Like look at Troy Hume, you
know, like I'm saying, I think

1301
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,320
about Brady Edmonds.
I think Virginia Tech was in

1302
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,080
there for a little bit.
I think he's committed to Ohio

1303
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,000
State.
And I know I think Penn State

1304
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,960
was in on him as well.
But yeah, I mean, you're

1305
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,960
definitely going to go out there
for quarterbacks for sure.

1306
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:09,400
But even other positions, I
wouldn't be shocked to see them

1307
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,800
do that in the future.
Has there been any of these like

1308
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:19,400
Texas, California guys that
you're hearing like what they're

1309
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,440
hearing from Virginia Tech, like
what they're seeing with the

1310
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,600
vision of the program yet?
Yeah, there's one.

1311
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,880
There's one from Texas.
Not going to be able to find his

1312
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,720
name right now.
He's a Edge prospect that I'm

1313
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:33,320
watching.
I feel so bad.

1314
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:35,400
I'm going to mess up his name.
I can remember his high school,

1315
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,560
but I can't remember his name.
But yeah, I would say, I would

1316
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,520
say you're seeing some success
there, that there's definitely

1317
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,480
at least one guy from Texas.
That's on my mind.

1318
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,360
Hold on, hold on, I got the list
up here.

1319
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:51,240
First of all, I don't remember
any of the last 10 years lists

1320
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,680
of offers being this big.
Maybe I just didn't look at the

1321
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,480
right time.
Shot out of color.

1322
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,080
I mean, and even just talking to
different people, like there was

1323
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,160
one year I think at Penn State,
he offered like 300 wide

1324
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:07,400
receivers or something.
It's like or something crazy.

1325
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,760
So it's insanely hard to track.
And even for them right now,

1326
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:10,960
like, I don't want it to be
undersold.

1327
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,040
Like they don't have now in
years, years moving forward,

1328
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,080
they certainly will as they
build up this infrastructure,

1329
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:18,280
right?
And they have a better footing

1330
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,240
of what they want.
But they don't have this really

1331
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,320
clear board.
Like like we were talking about

1332
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,000
Chris Whitehead.
They're not going to tell him

1333
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,240
no, right?
Like they're going to take it.

1334
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,280
That's a guy they're going to
take.

1335
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:29,640
But some of these other guys,
it's like we don't, we don't

1336
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,240
know yet.
Like we're still building out

1337
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:32,760
our board.
We're still familiarizing with

1338
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,360
your coaches like a junior
Sanders, they're taking him

1339
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,360
right?
Elijah Hutchinson, like those

1340
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:39,480
top of the board guys, OK, take,
take whenever.

1341
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:41,760
But some of these other guys are
having for obese.

1342
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,080
It's like like that's why the
dead period was so big.

1343
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:48,040
And even in like still now like
it's like, what what's the

1344
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,240
quarterback room going to look
like?

1345
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,360
What's our third wide receiver?
What's our second tight end?

1346
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:53,760
What's our 4th offensive
lineman?

1347
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,160
You know, like we feel good
about these guys.

1348
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,480
But beyond that, we're still
trying to flesh out our board.

1349
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:00,840
Got it.
Well, it's really funny because

1350
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,640
I thought when I went to Edge
here, it would be like one guy.

1351
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:09,440
No, they have three offers, a
guy from Denton Dyer, a guy from

1352
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,520
We Get Down Here to the other
ones, Si Falls and Cedar Hill.

1353
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:19,040
Yeah, that's where, say, the two
names hang on, it's.

1354
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,800
Jeron Allen, The Second James
Harris.

1355
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:26,360
It's James Harris that's the
one, and he goes to SI.

1356
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,640
Si Falls Ski Falls.
That's the one, Yeah.

1357
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:34,080
OK, James, I was just wanting to
keep an eye on.

1358
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:36,080
I'm not saying anything crazy,
but that that was the one that

1359
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:36,880
comes to mind.
That no.

1360
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,760
Well, yeah.
I understand what you're saying,

1361
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,320
but what you're hearing is
someone from there with the

1362
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:45,600
James Franklin pitch and with
the vision like.

1363
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,440
Like he might get up, you know,
like that's kind of rare to have

1364
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,480
a guy from Texas, right?
Like it's not, it's not a trip

1365
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:57,560
from even Greensboro, NC, or
even Columbus, OH.

1366
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,680
Like that's, that's a real trip,
you know?

1367
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,040
That is a real trip, Brian.
Anything else?

1368
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:08,880
We want to close Colby out here
with men because dude, we've

1369
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,920
been sitting here an hour.
It's been a blast here.

1370
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,680
In your takes, by the way, the
best thing you do, Colby, is

1371
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,800
like the Deloach story.
Colby, anytime you're with us,

1372
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,720
if you want to go off on a Side
Story, that's what we're all

1373
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:21,880
about here.
It depends.

1374
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:24,760
Because it makes it real, man.
It makes it because we're just

1375
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,160
having a conversation about
something we all three love.

1376
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,320
Dude, I was just thinking about
it like if there's I just feel

1377
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,080
like there's so much that you're
acquainted or like adjacent to

1378
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,680
and you like I, I feel like I
don't keep enough notes because

1379
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,720
if someone brings it up, it like
sparks your memory, but it's

1380
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:42,360
like until you think about that
Deloach thing or whatever.

1381
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,000
Like even the I remember the the
one that got blew up a little

1382
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,040
bit was the pro day one, right?
Like when they were doing the

1383
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,040
heating, like, or that was
something I never even thought

1384
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,480
to talk about until, you know,
the heating came in and then

1385
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,560
there was a big crash out on the
pro day where the scout kind of

1386
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,280
got in Brett Pryor's face and
was like, you need to have

1387
01:07:58,280 --> 01:07:59,680
heating in here.
Brett thought it was like a

1388
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,120
joke.
And then there was that whole

1389
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,080
kerfuffle.
But yeah, there there's just so

1390
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,040
I mean, even in the couple years
I've been around it there,

1391
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,120
there's always something,
there's always a story.

1392
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,480
But yeah, we'll, we'll see.
Maybe that Lonnie Andrews thing

1393
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,880
plays out just like that.
But yeah, the man, the Jamari

1394
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,600
Deloach, I think he's going to
be a special player.

1395
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,399
I think you're going to see a
lot of him this year.

1396
01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:21,880
Those three guys, I've I've said
it since they got there

1397
01:08:22,319 --> 01:08:24,720
knowledge Harold, he might be
moving back to safety, which

1398
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,359
I've kind of said since he got
there.

1399
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,399
JoJo KREM, who sounds like he
was a little banged up.

1400
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:33,000
I think we'll be fine for spring
and Jamar Deloach probably at

1401
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:35,240
nickel.
Like I know you like Isaiah

1402
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,960
Brown, Murray, Tyson Flower,
like awesome guys.

1403
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,200
Go check out on my YouTube
channel got great interviews

1404
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,840
with him there.
Like really awesome guys.

1405
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,160
I appreciate them.
But I think those young three

1406
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,560
guys from last year, it's going
to be tough to keep those guys

1407
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,680
off the field.
Pushing, pushing.

1408
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,040
We've been we've been banging
the the knowledge Harold Drum

1409
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:56,439
here and obviously Deloach, I
mean, just incredible athlete.

1410
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,560
So I'm excited to see what he
can do kind of getting into the

1411
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:00,479
mix there at Nichols.
So.

1412
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,359
And what and what you want is
the young guys pushing, the

1413
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:06,840
veterans, the guys that you've
seen like an IBM, like a

1414
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,040
flowers, you know, we know, you
know they can play solid.

1415
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,840
Do you want football?
You want the young guys pushing

1416
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,720
because if they're pushing,
basically they're saying I'm

1417
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:20,800
coming to take your job, you
better give it 110 all the time

1418
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:23,200
or we'll take your job, so.
You know what, we're raising the

1419
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,279
talent level and you're you're
adding depth in there.

1420
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:31,160
So it's like, either way, it's a
win. 100, that's what we set off

1421
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,720
the top.
Like, you got to have talent at

1422
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,040
all those levels to make
everyone better at practice, and

1423
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:42,279
they've done that, So, yeah.
100% Colby anything where tell

1424
01:09:42,279 --> 01:09:43,399
people where they can follow
you.

1425
01:09:43,399 --> 01:09:47,000
Anything going on 247 right now
that people might be interested

1426
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,200
in?
Yeah, man, it's going to be busy

1427
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,200
this coming week.
I appreciate you guys had me on

1428
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,399
here for spring break because
next week we're going to be

1429
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:55,000
after it.
We'll see what spring ball looks

1430
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,440
like, but you can follow me on X
at Colby under score Crawford.

1431
01:09:58,440 --> 01:10:00,680
Check out the YouTube channel.
Let's just type in Colby.

1432
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:06,640
Crawford should have promo code
code Colby for BT scoop in the

1433
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,920
next week.
So don't tell the bosses.

1434
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,400
Maybe don't get the VIP yet
until next Tuesday.

1435
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,560
Might have a sweet deal for you.
But yeah, over there it'll be.

1436
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,800
I mean, I feel like we've
already had a ton of different

1437
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,200
team scoop, but team scoop, when
the trench portal gets rocking,

1438
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,880
there's no better place to be.
High school recruiting is going

1439
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,320
to be crazy coming up.
So yeah, no better place to be

1440
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:28,200
than over there.
All right, we'll check him out.

1441
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:30,600
Colby rear, appreciate you
joining us tonight.

1442
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,320
That does wrap up this episode
of the Boundary Corner podcast

1443
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,120
brought to you by Moments on the
Mori in Lexington along with our

1444
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,400
special guest, Colby Crawford
from 247.

1445
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,280
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Siegler.

1446
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,520
Jonathan Tally, we hope, is
saved.

1447
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:46,400
Shelton Moss is at some baseball
field.

1448
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,360
That's all I know.
Check out.

1449
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:52,120
Boundary corner.
I'll pinch it.

1450
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:55,080
There you go, there you go, come
down and pinch it.

1451
01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:57,880
Check out boundarycornerbt.com
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1452
01:10:57,880 --> 01:10:59,600
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1453
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,840
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1454
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:07,120
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1455
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:09,920
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of people come on.

1456
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,960
Twitter is screwed up with
streams right now.

1457
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:15,040
We've been trying to figure it
out.

1458
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,040
It sucks because Twitter is the
thing so many people are on.

1459
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:22,760
Hopefully it's fixed soon.
So if you usually follow us on

1460
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,680
Twitter, if you see us going
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1461
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:29,200
nights, go to YouTube please.
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1462
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:35,120
me, the the Twitter page.
As always, we are in everywhere

1463
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:39,760
you can think of podcast wise.
As always, our buddy Jason Long,

1464
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,960
he plays us in he plays us out
every week.

1465
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:46,760
Check out Jason Long music.com
where you can link to all of his

1466
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:51,520
music on YouTube, Facebook and
Spotify pages.

1467
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,480
Check him out.
He is going to be cranking up

1468
01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:58,040
for the spring lots of dates so
check out the live upcoming

1469
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,480
performances.
He's all around the greater

1470
01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:03,960
Roanoke Valley area.
We appreciate y'all for

1471
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:05,840
listening and as always, let's
go.

1472
01:12:06,560 --> 01:13:07,950
Oh, keys.
The.

Kolby Crawford

Rising Tides