Return to Power

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And welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast, along with my

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partners, Brian Sigler,
Jonathan, Talley and shelter

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Moss.
I'm Curtis Wilson in this

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portion of the I sewed, it is
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Jeremy counts at the Main Street
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Fellas, we're back.
It's been a couple weeks,

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Hiatus, as everyone feeling
tonight, Feeling Good, Feeling

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Good, Man.
Sterling got a broke pinky, but

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we Still Ballin over here we
are.

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I hear you man.
You know, those those sports

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injuries, especially those
nagging one's kind of a pain in

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the ass, man.
Yeah, that face play slow you

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down but at least it's something
that he can kind of play through

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in the short term, right?
100%.

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Yeah, we made them a little A
bit more aware to made it, love

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it a little bit more.
You know, you want to be lazy

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sometimes and then you break a
pinky and you have to miss a

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game.
And then you like, oh I can't

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wait to get back in there and
hit.

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I can't wait to do something so,
you know it made angle, so I'm

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happy to happen.
But if it happened at least it

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was something that he's able to
play through.

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Make some love it a little bit
more.

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Absolutely here, man.
We just we we finally are done

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with baseball for the year.
Oh, Donald baseball in time.

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Pool Time.
Pool time at the pool but

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baseball ended Good.
The oldest son's team won his

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division championship and the
your point he was kind of sad we

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were driving home that night and
he was like I'm kind of sad he's

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like I'm going to go back and
play with you guys anymore.

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Yeah this year.
Okay okay so other than that we

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are yeah a lot of pool right
now.

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A lot of sunshine lot of playing
outside until the Sun starts

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said in here.
I mean Give me one of them

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pulls, man.
Yes, if you get into a pool

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shell, how you doing, man?
That's not your usual background

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right there.
It is not, I am in a fancy

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pantsy apartment here, in Salt
Lake City, taking a week-long

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vacation out here in Utah, with
the little Airbnb.

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So, I've been doing some hiking,
some outdoor stuff and also just

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experienced the talents, but
it's been awesome.

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It's been the trip of a lifetime
really So that is all for they

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say if a bear or something
starts chasing, you supposed to

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get big and make a lot of noise.
So yes, Greg never never run

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away from a bear.
That tells a that your prey,

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okay?
Okay?

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Post that motherfucker in the
mouth, unless it's the cocaine,

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but, and you're done now.
You can, he's not, he's not in

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Gatlinburg.
I just saw the movie

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in the college football game.
We all went through, we got our

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know, It's we've got stuff we
wanted to talk about but before

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we get to all that fun stuff and
we definitely want you all to be

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interact and we get to that, we
got to talk Rudin because it's

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been a little while since we
discussed recruits and I first

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want to start with the transfer
portal because the day,

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literally the day that we were
talking to coach pry.

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Antoine Ryland Powell who was in
the portal from Florida,

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transfers up to the Hokies
originally Indian River High

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School down in Portsmouth, he
transfers with two years of

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Eligibility left from the
Florida Gators.

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Something we had talked about
about a month ago.

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Defensive line was key, right?
We had lost a younger player.

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Tell him a pitch to you first.
What do you think?

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You think we upgraded it line
with getting?

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This is definitely definitely
upgraded at the line.

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But what I liked about Out that
pickup was just circling the

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wagons pretty much you know had
a shot at the kid out of high

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school for whatever reason.
We don't land in this new staff

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comes in, we go 3 and 8 which is
not very good and this kids

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coming from Florida and somebody
on that staff said hey we got a

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vision, they had some kind of
connection with somebody that he

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knows or him.
Glenn we get in and we get him

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to come home.
Yeah, you know like that.

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That is where that is where
football has to go for us.

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You know, you miss on recruit.
You don't say screw you have a

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nice life.
No, it's still check on him.

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Hey man I seen your first game.
You got your first snap, keep

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grinding and keep it moving.
You know what I'm saying?

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Like, that's what it has to be.
That's what college football has

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to be now because at any point,
somebody can go, hey, I'm ready

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to leave.
I'm ready to transfer back home

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closer to home.
So I think that definitely great

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job filling a spot of Need For
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Great job and he's going to come
in and play, you know, so that's

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awesome.
Definitely going to come in and

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play and that connection was
going welfare.

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Be Glenwood.
The director of high school

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relations for the Hokies was his
coach down at Indian River.

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So not only having him but I
think again, it's the vision

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because your point tally, three
and eight grand, you know, three

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and eight football teams don't
shouldn't be getting guys.

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Like pal who have had success.
I mean, because we take a look

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at his numbers here in sort of a
part-time role last year.

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Yet, you know, right at 30
tackles three sacks, three

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forced fumbles.
And that was a part-time role

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and you know, he's 63 is about
245 pounds slightly undersized.

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But Just just rushing to pass.
Just kidding.

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Yeah, yeah and you know like
tally said definitely position

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need that.
We've talked about here, you

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know, we were saying if we need
to get a d and we need to get an

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offensive lineman who we need to
get somebody to play, DB whether

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it be a safety or some sort of
nickel Corner.

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Hybrid type player went out.
Got one took care of business

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there and probably got the best
one that we had a chance at

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getting right into.
Terms of the relationships that

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we had there previously, you
know, connections to Virginia,

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obviously from Indian River.
They're so kind of give the best

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one on the board that you feel
like you have a legitimate shot

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at that.
That's, that's good.

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That's that you're closing in on
the, on the realistic goals

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there.
So I think that's, that's a big

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thing to do.
And I mean, he's shown, he's a

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player and limited roles.
I'm hoping that he's going to

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step into that in a larger role
with the Hokies.

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If he can come out there and
You're still that starting job

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in kind of solidify that other
side of the defensive line and

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that the DN position that's
going to be big for us, because

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that's, that's something that we
need going into the season,

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100%, 100%.
So big get there.

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And you know, one too many days
ago, we got another one in some

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other place, we talked about
right offensive line this time.

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And it's not a division, one
transfer but it's effectively an

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FCS got coming up and that's
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Frady who's Transferring up from
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Webb had been a three-year
starter down there because he's

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a covid guy.
He has two more years of

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Eligibility.
Love play tackle there, I know,

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Brian, I know you looked a
little of his tape, where do you

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foresee him?
And you know, there's been some

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discussion that he's not as good
as certain current offensive

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lineman, but if they went and
got him, there's a reason

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because if you feel good about
who you're currently got, you're

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not just going to go out and
waste.

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Actively a roster spot to me on
depth.

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Yeah you know looking at him I
feel like there's there's some

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potential there.
I'm hoping he's a guy that can

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slide in maybe two guard even
though he's more of a more of a

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tackle if he can slide inside to
guard I think that would be a

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better fit for him.
I think that would with with the

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Step Up in competition.
I think he's athletic enough to

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make that work and that would
you know, get Get someone a

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little more shuffling on the
interior there, which is

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probably where we're the most
unsteady in terms of front-line.

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I feel like we're pretty solid
at the tackles in terms of the

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Frontline, very sketchy on
depth.

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So we'll see how that works out.
But you know, we look at

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offensive line.
We're talking about getting the

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best five out there, that can
work together as a unit.

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So not necessarily the most
talented five, but we're looking

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for the That make us the best as
a unit.

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So it remains to be seen what
that's going to look like by the

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time you know, September rolls
around.

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Yeah.
Definitely definitely has to go.

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It not any elements.
A tally.

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What do you got?
Just saying just you know

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definitely always good to get
somebody who's has had some

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significant snaps so that helps,
you know, coming in and being

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able to fight for The spot.
I don't know if he comes in and

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starts, but I think that they
want them to come in and start,

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but even if he doesn't, somebody
else steps their game up and

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say, how I'm ready to fight like
Coach Price said, on the, on the

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last part.
If you hadn't go, listen to it.

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Go listen to it.
Where you mean, you've been in

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Utah, with with, with Sheldon,
you need to go back and listen

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to our last part, with Coach
Brown, he said, hey I'm bringing

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in people to take your spot, you
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So as an offensive lineman, this
this summer youth Hey, I'm not

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letting somebody come in and
take my spot.

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So if he does come in as a as a,
you know, a transfer and it's

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able to give us some some snaps
as a death play and I still do

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it because you hate to say it
but somebody's gonna get hurt.

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You know, somebody's going to
get the toes stepped on,

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whatever the case may be, so we
just need somebody's the five

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best.
Like you said, not that have to

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be the most five, talented.
But the five best it's going to

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work the best together.
And go get the job done.

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So I like to pick up there for
me.

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Yeah, and I take a look at it
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Is he played right tackle and he
was all big style.

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He got some, you know, some
preseason All-American honors

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but he played right tackle.
I looked at that in that I think

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we've all said about, we
chaplains physicalness.

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Little more big, more Parker.
It's the right side, right.

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If a guy's playing right?
Taylor, Brian Point can slip in

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and make that move for that.
So again your portal Seasons

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effectively over, you know, the
only thing we kind of didn't hit

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was a defensive back but I think
again is that because we got

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some guys who are pretty pretty
well regarded coming in.

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Actually take out that they're
all there.

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Now everybody finished
enrollments.

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Everybody's everybody's they're
doing summer workouts we're

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seeing social media hit that up
so it'll be interesting.

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Well thank you.
I think the big thing with that

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is that when we looked at the
three positions that we said

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we're in need, they were to
where we needed for sure

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Frontline.
Or like first line depth.

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Yep.
Help you with those DD and

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offensive line.
We needed somebody.

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We need an extra body there.
We've got bodies in the DB

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Arena.
We just had probably a little

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bit more unproven talent that I
think we'd like, so if, if I had

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to way where I was going to fill
in, if you only had to take two

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of the three, that's the to I
would have been a hundred

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percent because what, because
with the defensive backs we

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already feel, it was that we
needed the fourth.

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We needed that fourth Corner.
They could do a little bit of

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everything, so we'll see how it
plays during the season.

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I, let's flip over to the class
of 2014.

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Or and it looks like it might be
turning into a really good one.

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Currently 24/7 has us overall at
the 24/7 level at 24 and

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composite rank at 24.
Y'all fixin seeking a cc6 in the

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ACC.
It's June, it's June.

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We're going to discuss anything,
but several June's ago, it won't

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looking good but now it's
looking much better and we have

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had basically a six-pack of
players recruit or commit over

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the last few days and I want to
start the one in this is this is

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way back, you know, a few weeks
ago actually write out a week

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ago.
June in June was Tommy.

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Ricard A6 that for 265 interior
offensive.

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Lineman from Hudson, Ohio, a 87
by 24/7, top 30 player in the

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state of Ohio top 60 interior
offensive.

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Lineman I'm going to pitch to
Brian on this one.

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Brian.
What do you what do you think of

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time?
Because I know you probably

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looked a little tape.
Yeah I mean pretty solid recruit

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over. 87 on 24/7 right there
about the same level composite.

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I mean looks good.
Yeah.

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Similar problems to a lot of
offensive linemen coming out of

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high school.
You know, could use a little bit

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better work with is with his
hands and his feet, but I think

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he's got a good motor and I
think he's going to be a good

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player for us.
We'll see how he develops.

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Offensive line is such a crap,
shoot, a lot of times as far as

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You know, how, what, what are
the ceiling?

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Where is, where is the Sealy you
gets really hard to tell.

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Where that ceiling is kind of
coming out of high school, but I

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think he's a solid guy that I
think will grow into the

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position and, and give us some
some good overall action

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long-term.
We'll just see if he's going to

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develop into a starting caliber
player brother than NFL to that

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helps.
Is it really what's the

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brother's name?
Shit, I can't remember.

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He plays for, he plays for The
Ravens.

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Thank you.
The fullback he's actually

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All-Pro is All-Pro fullback to?
Yeah, Patrick I feel well yeah,

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that he is a damn good fullback.
So yeah, that's a good bloodline

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right there.
Yes, I was going to say.

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So what?
And a lot of times people say,

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you know, that doesn't matter.
You know, it's a coach's kid or

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if it's some NFL bloodline of
stuff like that.

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What that helps is as a athlete
you going to hit A wall, you

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don't know when you're going to
hit it, but you're going to hit

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a wall.
When you got somebody who's

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already been through it.
And then they went to the next

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level, they can tell you.
Okay, I know how to help you get

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through this, so when he gets to
college looks like he's 64 to

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65.
It gets there and he goes causes

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brother up and goes.
Hey, man, everybody's bigger

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than me and faster than me, and
he can go, boom.

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This is what I think you can do.
So it helps to have somebody

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like that, just besides the
skill that he has, So I like

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that the most about him, like
Brian said, I watched a little

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film on him.
I think that 87 range is about

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Where we should be punching on
most of our commits, if that's

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our floor on our commits.
I think we have some solid

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classes, you know, every now and
then somebody is going over.

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Shoot their ranking or
undershoot.

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It but I think when we're going
and we're evaluating and we

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looking at people that 87 range
is about what we need to be.

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We need to stay out of the métis
tools and 84s what we had, you

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know, maybe a couple of years
ago and things like that but

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solid commitment.
MIT.

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Alrighty, so awesome.
So I'm glad y'all like Tommy

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Ricard again, I like the size
again.

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Tell you've been kind of
preaching it the last ever since

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you've been with us, not if
they've got that size on the

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offensive line, it makes it a
lot easier.

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Alright, another guy who has
some size for his position and

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committed is Quinn.
Reddish down from Independence,

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which Independence is a power
down in the state of North

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Carolina.
He's 63, he's 185.

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He's right.
There's a three-story.

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He 634 in the state of North
Carolina.

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What are y'all seeing on him?
He's got the body.

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Yes, he's got the build to be a
safety Tally.

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What do you think of them?
It's again, when I'm looking at,

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I looked at a little bit of film
on the kid and I love the 63,

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you know, I love the 63, almost
200 pounds being in high school.

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And again, when we talk about
rankings, it says right at 85,

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something like that.
He doesn't strike me.

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From what I've seen as like most
Phillips when I looked at his

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face and I was like yeah he's
shooting, he's shooting above

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his ranking.
Like he just looked different,

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you know what I mean?
And it was like he just can't

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kind of came out of nowhere.
Then we send them in the spring.

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Game and I was like, okay that's
what I thought.

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So he's still in high school.
I got to I got to see him for a

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little bit and check up on him.
Not saying he's not going to be

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a good recruit, but I wasn't as
excited about reddish as some

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people were.
But again I'm just the guy

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behind the computer right now.
So I will be watching them.

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I'll be watching and I hope he
does some big things.

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He's got a year left in high
school to turn it up.

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Right.
What do you think of them?

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Yeah, I'm right there with Tally
I feel like he's got a good

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solid skill set that.
He's bringing out the gate.

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We'll see if he can.
You punch above his weight

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class?
I haven't necessarily seen

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anything that indicates that in
the tape, kind of like tally

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said, but your solid solid pick
up and, you know, I think the

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big thing we're going to talk
about this a lot later.

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But, you know, I think the
development for Virginia Tech is

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going to start leveling up a
little bit.

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So we'll see if he Grow into
that position and make some

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noise.
All right, good deal.

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Well, what's happened over the
last two days, has kind of been

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crazy and it, it started with
someone.

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We're going to bring on just a
couple minutes here, but let's

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talk about the other three that
we brought on since then.

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And it's first of all, let's
take Andrew hinch up another

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Cleveland, kid 65 to 60 on the
defensive line.

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Tally, Tally immediately got
happy when he saw that, wait and

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see.
Sighs.

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He's an 86, he's a top 40, Ohio
kid, and just kind of looking at

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it health, some interest, you
know, from West Virginia and

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some other schools down there in
the Mac.

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But you know, you had JC and
Marvin him and all, would he

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when he committed, everybody's
like, offensive linemen

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defensive lineman, this like
that kid tag every defensive

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coach on the right?
Right, I think he's playing

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defensive line and I don't know
me.

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It's been a whirlwind.
That jobs, did anybody bring you

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the chance to check a little bit
of tape out?

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I looked at a little bit of his
tape.

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Yeah.
I mean, I think this is a

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probably like a solid, good
depth pick, right?

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Out the gate, he's a big kid.
You know, I'd say he plays a

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little bit too high and out of
his stance that that'd be my

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biggest criticism at the gate.
But, you know, we'll see what he

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can do on the defensive side
because that's a different ball

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of wax.
So he shows pretty good, pretty

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good motor.
So that's what you're going to

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need them to do.
Benson side of the ball so solid

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pick up.
You know, it's not blowing me

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away but I think it's a very
good solid pick up especially

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from a big weekend that we had.
Yeah, I think I don't know what

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a lot of people.
Some schools, you probably can

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recruit a certain way, Virginia
Tech.

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I think it's a little bit
different.

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I've never understood people
saying, we can take them in

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December.
We can take them in.

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I feel like where we are and
what we're doing.

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If somebody's if we're
interested and they want to come

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let him come because you are you
can always say hey this ain't

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working out.
We got somebody else.

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Yeah you got to find some way to
go but when you're scrambling at

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the end of a recruiting class
and trying to fill a spot is not

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a good look and that just
doesn't work out for us.

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So I don't like the, we could
have took him at another time.

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So I didn't have a problem with
him taking him especially when

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you're building momentum like
we're doing hey man.

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You got some people, this
disinterested in?

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We're interested.
Make it happen.

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So.
Yep.

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Keep it, keep that train
rolling.

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We need it.
We want to roll in all through

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the summer because if I mean
we're so used to come on now.

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We Virginia Tech fans.
We so used to some bad publicity

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during the summer there.
Any positive publicity we get,

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we happy.
So you know, I'm excited about

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that. 100% a 100% what a the
ball, kept rolling and it kept

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rolling yesterday.
Six foot seven.

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Lb 3 star in 87, rank a top 15
player in the state of New

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Jersey.
New Jersey can put out some, uh,

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some dogs out there.
Aidan Lynch from Mount Olive,

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High School in Flanders, New
Jersey, you know, had quite a

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kind of quite a few, guys did
get some interest from Georgia,

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Michigan State, Nebraska, Penn
State.

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So, he had some eyes on him and
he committed to the Hokies.

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Brian, I know you look at this
too.

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As soon as Brian sees an
offensive lineman commit it's

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like, Paul's what?
I'm doing.

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Yeah, you to take, you got to
check it out.

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He get into the size jumps off,
right at the gate.

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You got good wingspan
good-sized.

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You 67 to 75.
That's the kind of size.

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You like coming out of high
school, good player, good.

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I think he's a little bit more
pop.

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Probably the most polished of
the guys that we've talked about

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today, only from a technique
standpoint.

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So I'm excited about him.
Looking for exactly what I was

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doing it.
Right.

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Exactly what I was going to say
Brian because I Check that out a

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little bit and the problem that
you run into with lime and like,

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that just so big 67 and they
play high and it's although all

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straight.
Yeah.

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But but when he, I mean being
67, he has some pretty like burn

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said, he's pretty polished with
his technique, you know, and

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saying to be able to use those
arms.

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Those long arms and actually
have the technique and not play

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so high.
So I was excited to see.

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I was excited to see that.
That pickup.

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I think that's a good pick up
and I think again, that's where

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that's our sweet spot.
That's what we shoot.

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So we shoot what?
Well, let's talk about the last

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guy didn't because we shot a
little higher for him.

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And you know what, somebody's
going to join us in, just a

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couple minutes.
Told us, it's one more on the

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way.
It's one more on the way and he

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won't lying.
That's Marcellus Barnes jr.

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And I'm a Cali school down in
Chattanooga.

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Tennessee.
A composite for Star.

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He is right at the 300 national
rank.

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He is a top 10 player.
In the state of Tennessee.

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Now they're ranking him as a
corner and a top-25 one at that.

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And I mean you kind of look at
his offer list, you know, you

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got Florida, stay you got
Baylor, you got George.

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You got a ton of school showing
interest in this kid and tally.

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Would you think I'm because
that's kind of down your way

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near Chattanooga.
Yeah.

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Well, so, yeah.
So that's a, that's cool.

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Did he goes to all boys school?
So I know he's got a lot of

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testosterone built up, you know?
And I know women on that campus

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here in the beginning, See,
someone getting to see some

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women but anyway we'll get out
of it, get out as far as a

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recruit goes watching this tape,
he's 62, you know, again you

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looking at sighs coming from the
safety or Corner position and

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he's coming downhill, and he's
making tackles.

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I seen him.
I think somebody posted on

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Twitter him, setting the edge.
If you can get a corner in high

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school to set a hedge, or a
safety to set the edge and turn

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the playback inside, but also
make the play.

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Yeah, like you free.
You're badass.

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So he brought a party over
there.

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I didn't know much about him.
I'm on, I ain't gonna lie to you

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because I didn't think we had.
I mean I've seen him before but

445
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:49,100
I didn't think we had much of a
shot but you know like you said,

446
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:52,800
somebody we got coming on, might
have played a part in that so we

447
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,600
start turning some heads man and
shit.

448
00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:57,100
Let's go.
Let's get it.

449
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,200
But that's cool.
Did he goes to his a good school

450
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,200
to get in?
Because that's one of the big

451
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,300
schools in Chattanooga.
That's about hour and a half

452
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:07,100
away from me, okay?
That's a, that's a big school in

453
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:10,200
that I want to stop our house,
but they close to.

454
00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:12,500
So they can they putting out
guys?

455
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,300
Yeah, it's a good.
It's a good school or something.

456
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,400
It's a good school.
That's when you start seeing it

457
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,100
Brian.
Did you get any quick looked at

458
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:19,900
him?
May the big thing that stands

459
00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:21,800
out to me is just length and
size, man.

460
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,600
You get a corner that can play
with some leverage like that.

461
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,900
That's big so big pickup for me.
I mean that's one of those guys

462
00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:33,300
that, you know, you kind of get
one of those from a Virginia

463
00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:35,100
Tech perspective.
One of those every three or four

464
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:39,700
classes So I mean I think that's
a solid pick up 100%.

465
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,300
Well I've been teasing it about
the last three or four minutes

466
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:45,400
here while talking about it.
But let's just be straight up

467
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:49,800
all of this got kicked off by
one individual announcing his

468
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,600
commitment just few days ago,
he's a 64 linebacker.

469
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,200
He's 195 pounds per 247.
He'll tell us is actually when

470
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,800
he gets on here, maybe from st.
Vincent Pilate High School in

471
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,800
Laurel Maryland.
A four-star, both 24/7 in

472
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,200
composite a top 24/7, a top 220
player in the country.

473
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,100
One of the best players in
Maryland.

474
00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:14,800
On three says he is the best
player in Maryland.

475
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,700
I agree with them surprise,
guest appearance.

476
00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:22,500
Joining us tonight, ladies and
gentlemen, Gabe Williams.

477
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:25,100
Gabe.
How are you tonight, man?

478
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:26,800
I'm good.
How y'all doing?

479
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:30,900
We are doing Jay.
Thank you for take for you for

480
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:33,400
messaging, Brian there.
And tell us you want to hop on

481
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:37,000
for a few minutes now, because
I've been busy, man.

482
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,600
You could have went anywhere,
you want to First what really

483
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,700
caught my eyes coach Brooks.
So coach Brooks from Marilyn.

484
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:10,900
He was actually my first offer.
So you always had that close

485
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:13,500
relationship and, you know, he's
a family friend and stuff like

486
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:15,700
that.
So when he told me he was making

487
00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:19,100
a move to Virginia, Tech
automatically made my list, you

488
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:21,300
know, so I went up there for
spring practice I'm like, hold

489
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:22,700
on, I actually like it, you
know.

490
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:27,400
And now coach Marvin coach
Clinic coach pry a, you know,

491
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,600
them just having a vision for
me, being the face of the

492
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,000
defense and, you know, just
doing everything in a defense

493
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,300
that really caught my eye.
So I knew it was a place for me.

494
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,900
I just came back on the official
to make sure so.

495
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,600
Yeah, and the people there, the
environment and the opportunity

496
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,800
to come in and make an early
impact.

497
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,200
That's really what caught my
game, right?

498
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,100
I don't know how many fan base
that you've interacted with,

499
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:52,400
but, okay, a Virginia Tech man.
We, we pay attention.

500
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,800
We be Darlin it.
So when I seen, you get ready to

501
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,500
go on your official, I said this
motherfucker got a van, a party

502
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:02,300
bus.
Oh yeah, he bought the

503
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:08,100
committee.
I knew sorry, but that was

504
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:11,400
pretty cool, man.
Like again seeing stuff like

505
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,900
that from commits like you
because a high-profile guy, like

506
00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:18,600
yourself man to take your time
and do stuff like that to

507
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,900
interact with fan base to put
just, you know, a minute video

508
00:29:21,900 --> 00:29:25,900
out, that's big the fans.
And so we appreciate that and

509
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:29,200
thank y'all, man.
So when you going to be on the

510
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,700
recruiting trip, they talk about
whether you go on kind of slide

511
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:37,300
in saying we'll kind of little
bit everything what's those

512
00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:40,800
discussions been?
Like so basically it's really so

513
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,200
right now they want me to play
the Star position but they said

514
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,700
I could play boundary safety the
like in the world depend on how

515
00:29:45,708 --> 00:29:48,100
much weight I put on it.
It's something I can pretty much

516
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,800
play everywhere and that's
really what I told you caught my

517
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,300
eyes.
So really in the star does

518
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:55,900
everything he blitzes, he covers
place in that and that's pretty

519
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:57,100
much where I show on my
highlight.

520
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,900
Tape and stuff like that.
So it's just like the picture.

521
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,900
When you talk about covered I
think I heard you talking on, on

522
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:08,100
the foil podcast you said that
you play cornering.

523
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:09,900
You just hit a growth spurt,
right?

524
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,700
Yeah.
I was playing safety training

525
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:15,700
with you and then I just caught
a growth spurt so they moved up

526
00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:18,700
closer to the line.
But, you know, so my sophomore

527
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:21,600
year in high school they ever
had, like a big receiver or, you

528
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,500
know, unguardable dude, that's
like me out there.

529
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:25,800
So nice.
I still got that in my

530
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,200
background stuff like that.
Yes, sir.

531
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,800
Well, we definitely need that.
We got PTSD or six.

532
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,300
Get some, our linebackers
getting caught on a slot

533
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:40,000
receiver and you put on skates.
So help me.

534
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,800
I will definitely definitely
keeping up with you.

535
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,300
It's big to hear that.
That's that's part of your skill

536
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:45,300
set as well.
Yeah.

537
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:48,200
And I want to ask how big that
plays into it because obviously

538
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:53,100
we all seem like a Parsons that
is a, that is a that's right

539
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:54,700
from that's coach prize guy,
right?

540
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:58,300
We saw him coaching from the
beginning to basically, A top-15

541
00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:01,100
linebacker pick, you don't see
linebackers going the top 15

542
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:03,500
anymore.
You just don't, but what he did

543
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:06,900
with Micah it was that
versatility when someone when

544
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:10,200
you see that and you see Brent
Prime Chris Marv, they know how

545
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,600
to use these pieces.
They know my skill set.

546
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,600
Like you said, you're going to
put you out of star.

547
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,200
We got to talk to Keyon to
Jenkins last year.

548
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,600
Who's playing that position
currently?

549
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,700
And, you know, concert came from
a safety position.

550
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:27,900
But when you have someone who
has that sort of Degree of

551
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:30,500
building those players and not
just all, he's a great

552
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:32,800
linebacker.
Mike Parsons can do everything.

553
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,300
And man, I hear you saying you
play Corner.

554
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,400
You're playing safety.
You're playing linebacker in

555
00:31:37,408 --> 00:31:39,700
high school, this year.
How's it feel to go to a coach

556
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:42,500
that, you know, has developed
one of the best in the NFL that

557
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:45,500
done.
That, it's definitely a plays, a

558
00:31:45,508 --> 00:31:49,000
big part because like, you don't
want to go like me, I have a lot

559
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,700
of big offers, but when they try
to tell you your this or this,

560
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:55,100
you know, I'm saying, I want to
go somewhere that please me

561
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:56,900
everywhere.
I shows all my versatile because

562
00:31:56,900 --> 00:31:58,800
I feel like Some separation.
That's probably why I'm working

563
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,000
so hard because I could do
everything, you know I'm saying.

564
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:03,500
So why would I go to a college
that's going to turn me into an

565
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:05,500
edge rusher?
When I know I could do Ed brush

566
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:06,700
and cover.
You know I'm saying?

567
00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:10,500
Right there and also that played
a big part because join the ACC

568
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:13,300
like I knew a lot of people
don't believe it but the ACC has

569
00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:16,700
the best athletes, you know?
And also I don't have to be 230,

570
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:19,800
you know, saying taking on the
huge power 5, lineman, like they

571
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,800
got an Iowa Wisconsin.
You know I'm saying so it was

572
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,900
just a, I was just thinking, you
know, You don't listen.

573
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:49,200
It was smart, man.
I'm telling you, the best stuff

574
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,300
you do.
We're going to put you in the

575
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:53,900
best position to do it.
And I love that, man, because we

576
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:56,100
got a chance to weeks ago to sit
down with Coach Brown right

577
00:32:56,100 --> 00:33:01,200
here.
But can he some he coached by a

578
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:01,900
great?
You coach?

579
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:04,300
Ba Coach?
Quin coach, Marv, coach Pride,

580
00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:07,800
GoDaddy be like not of people.
Most people could it be because

581
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,800
UDP was a dog.
You know, he wasn't.

582
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,200
Oh yeah, he was dog.
Yes, he was man and already 68.

583
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,500
I'm already plugged in with the
other line backers, like trick

584
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,300
for me Edmonds.
You know, I'm saying, so it's

585
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:23,700
just just the connection that
already have with the guys in

586
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:25,800
the people who already walked
through this program, you know?

587
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,400
And they believe in Maybe so
it's really just to believe, you

588
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,200
know.
So that's really what got me

589
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,900
going.
Trying to get this 24 class

590
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:35,000
together cuz I'm like like you
know the opportunities here

591
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,100
y'all just got to come take it,
you know?

592
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,000
Yeah.
And I mean you really hit the

593
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,000
ground running man.
I really appreciate that.

594
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,100
I mean, the engagement that
you've been able to generate a

595
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:47,500
wide over the last two or three
days has been amazing.

596
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:50,300
And I'm glad the Hokie nation is
kind of, you know, rode that

597
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:52,400
wave with you.
So that's been good.

598
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,000
I think for everybody, that's
the way.

599
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,400
I feel like that The reason why
it was hard for Maryland stuff

600
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,600
to recruit me because it didn't
have the fanbase, you know?

601
00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:03,500
So if you go somewhere with the
fan base and makes it easier to

602
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,600
recruit, see I'm making my job
easier you know, I just tell the

603
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,199
guys, like we got a we got a fan
base that believes in us, you

604
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,300
know, they didn't have the past
years that they wanted but

605
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:13,100
they're still here and they're
still trying to support the

606
00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:16,699
guys, you know, and then I get
them on the phone called pride

607
00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:19,100
and all them and then you know
y'all do y'all work?

608
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:21,100
And then boom.
We got another commitment.

609
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,300
Is how it works.
I'm telling you.

610
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:25,600
It's the philosophy that be
manually.

611
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,900
Harriet your head is your age
man.

612
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:31,600
Like well you you got a long
football career to play but you

613
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,000
already talking like a I'm a
Salesman but that's what I do.

614
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:36,600
Should you talking like a
Salesman?

615
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,199
I'm ready, man.
It's just the way I was

616
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:40,699
recruited.
So I know which recruitment

617
00:34:40,699 --> 00:34:44,600
works and which does yeah.
So yeah, I think I see people

618
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,500
already trying to copy.
How you doing it though.

619
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,000
Hey.
I'm just saying it but I see

620
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,000
some people trying to use your
tactics already and trying to

621
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,100
use the tactics.
But

622
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:18,000
what you did last night, you
said the Dogs Out.

623
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:52,500
Trying to get that done right
now, man, I'm trying to be good

624
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:58,300
parents and in January where we
can night then we need that.

625
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000
Yeah, get a jump out there, get
out there and spring see what

626
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,800
you can do against the
upperclassmen and I'm going to

627
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,300
show you ready to turn up and
fall on the show y'all what I

628
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,000
can do.
And yeah hope the nation

629
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,200
everybody who been engaging with
Gabe man.

630
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,800
Y'all better be on his feet.
Checking out his games.

631
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:18,100
You know what I'm saying?
When he's posting stuff, I need

632
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:22,100
y'all to get on it, man.
Y'all got to keep Yes, it is.

633
00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:25,600
And that's what we do.
We got some Hokies and we got

634
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,800
some tell you.
I wish I could tell you

635
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,900
everything.
I know I'm in trouble.

636
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:34,200
We don't get in trouble if we
don't get in trouble right now.

637
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:39,700
We're patient.
We're patient.

638
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:42,200
We can wait the thing is I'm
not.

639
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:52,700
All right.
Y'all heard it here first.

640
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:59,100
It's definitely going to bump us
up to 1024 right now, this team.

641
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,300
All right, we'll listen Gabe, I
don't want to get you in

642
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:05,400
trouble.
I'm not now, I appreciate

643
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,200
lizard.
We appreciate you joining us,

644
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,400
man.
So we got a bunch of stuff.

645
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,200
We hope you listen to rest of
the night because what we're

646
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,800
talking about and this is the
one piece like this.

647
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,600
This is one of the pieces were
going to talk about tonight.

648
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,300
Y'all, how do we return to the
power with Virginia Tech?

649
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,100
Was gave.
You got three guys up here.

650
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,100
I turned 40 in a couple months.
Brian's 39 tally, 38.

651
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:31,500
We grew up, man.
I saw a DB play, we saw X play

652
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:35,600
on the field at man was nasty.
We saw JG.

653
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:38,400
We saw Winslow play on the
field, we saw Pearson play on

654
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,600
the field.
We saw all those coaches who are

655
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,200
Hokies play, that are going to
be coaching, you that played on

656
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,100
that field and I hear the
passion in your voice and I hear

657
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:49,400
the things you're trying to do,
you're trying to bring the best

658
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,000
players.
It's just a recruit and as a

659
00:37:52,008 --> 00:37:56,100
commit right now in, I just, I
want to say it.

660
00:37:56,100 --> 00:38:00,600
Like, we talking about tonight
returning to power, and I think

661
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,300
I'm later like, you and that
mentality, that's how we're

662
00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:06,100
going to get back to where we
were and then we will have like

663
00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:08,200
five of me, man, it's good.
We go baby,

664
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:22,800
you know?
So it's going to be Yeah, I do

665
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,200
understand but this division
start cooking the popcorn right

666
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,000
now.
Yeah.

667
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,400
Come on baby.
There we go.

668
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:54,700
Well, being equipped playing
around.

669
00:38:54,700 --> 00:39:00,400
Let's go bullshit.
We appreciate you taking a

670
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:08,000
little bit of your time tonight.
60.

671
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Supposed to be 20 25.
Yes,

672
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:22,500
have a good evening.
We'll continue to chat with you.

673
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,700
Oh man.
Now you got a, you got a dog up

674
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:29,200
here, talking with the white
beard.

675
00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:36,700
That's the original.
He's the white.

676
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:42,000
He is, he's my second cousin.
Yeah, that's the old.

677
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,600
He started the vics coming, he
started the vics coming to

678
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,700
Virginia Tech.
There you go.

679
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,700
He's real active on Twitter so
game, if you don't follow him

680
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,000
yet, Yet, if you haven't had, he
does and he has a lot of

681
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,500
podcasts and things like that.
Actually him in Mike have a

682
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:56,800
podcast together.
Yep.

683
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,800
So if you haven't started
following the white man, give

684
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,700
him a follow when you get
opportunities and great follow

685
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,100
one thing I can say, do.
The recruitment is hard.

686
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:14,000
Yeah, it's a lot of work, but
it, but it takes what you got.

687
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,600
Do it, takes passion, you know
what I'm saying?

688
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:19,500
And I think that's what the
coaches when I talk a lot about

689
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:22,200
them, but I think that's what
the coaches lacked that we had.

690
00:40:22,300 --> 00:40:25,800
So, it's great that we got
prying the guys in Mars, which

691
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,500
I've known mark for a long time.
I my first cousin is a high

692
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:33,300
school Coach and he's
interacting with Marvel lot.

693
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:36,600
When Marvels.
Marvin to Vanderbilt and then he

694
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:39,800
was at Florida State.
So, my cousin and I acted with

695
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:43,300
him a lot, man, and agencies
passion, man, and being real

696
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:45,100
with people being real with
people man.

697
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,000
So that's really what caught my
eye.

698
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,300
I'm saying they don't when I
went it in this Pat me on the

699
00:40:51,300 --> 00:40:54,600
ass you know I'm saying it just
you know they told me what I

700
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,000
needed to work on and stuff like
that so that's really what

701
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,900
caught my attention to like the
realness, you know that was like

702
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:03,500
you're good at this but you like
this, you know, some sand.

703
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,600
So we've been working.
Going on stuff like that, you

704
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,500
know, and we've got to start his
own calls during the week and

705
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,900
stuff like that, so I can get to
learn the defense and stuff like

706
00:41:10,900 --> 00:41:12,500
that.
So it's like I'm already ready.

707
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,400
So it's telling you about to get
crazy.

708
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:21,200
What, man, we appreciate your
passion, we appreciate what

709
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,400
you're doing for us and we look
forward to watching you all.

710
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:27,700
All your your singing you on to
getting into Virginia Tech.

711
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:30,000
So have a good night, man.
We appreciate you.

712
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:31,600
Thank y'all.
Go Hokies.

713
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,800
That was awesome.
Well I love a good impromptu

714
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,200
interview impromptu is heck I
mean Shelton by the way Shelton

715
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,100
we're going to now let you
comment because Shelton has been

716
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:51,000
completely off Twitter.
So he him hearing us name.

717
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,400
Everybody who's been committing
is the first time he's heard it

718
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,500
and just tell us what you think
a gay man, because like he's a

719
00:41:58,508 --> 00:42:02,800
top ranked kid, you know, when
you hear a kid come on like that

720
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,000
and you In that.
What's that tell you about it?

721
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:07,800
Dude, it's great to see.
I mean, from what I can tell

722
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:13,200
already, he's just smart mature
mature, young kid mature Beyond

723
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,700
his years, and getting a guy
that especially in the DMV.

724
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,700
I think, I think Brian and I
were talking earlier, texted me

725
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:22,700
earlier about how important the
DMV isn't trying to lock that

726
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:26,200
area down because there's a lot
of talent and that in that area.

727
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:28,500
So that's it.
That's a big-time pickup.

728
00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:31,000
Definitely.
Shout out to shout outs.

729
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,400
A lot of brought to me.
Yeah, great Great pickup by my

730
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,300
coach pry, great pickup
definitely made a difference is

731
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:42,200
you don't know, you know I know
I know we had we talked about a

732
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,400
little bit already but we're
going to look back at some of

733
00:42:44,408 --> 00:42:48,500
these, this offseason moves and
on the coaching staff and say we

734
00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:51,200
had a little bit of a addition
by subtraction there.

735
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,100
I thought, I feel like saying,
great, great pickup by Brooks

736
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,300
100%.
We 45 in and we ain't got you

737
00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:01,700
two main topics.
Get you get you get, you get

738
00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:03,600
your long gear on because we
gonna be going away.

739
00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:06,200
While because that was awesome.
I love having like you said,

740
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,300
they're Shelton Kiss 16 year
old, he very mature talking,

741
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:13,600
very sure discussions about, you
know, what, I loved what he

742
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,300
said, right at the end there,
Tyler for you for you, let him

743
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:19,500
off.
They know what I'm good at but

744
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:22,800
they know what, I'm not gonna
want me to be better at what?

745
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:26,500
I'm not and they're telling me
that now when you're actually

746
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:30,200
trying to win me, not not, not
once I'm on campus and they're

747
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,800
trying to win games with me,
they're telling me now when

748
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,100
they're still trying to Get me
to commit here.

749
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:37,800
That I think that's big that
speaks, you know, to what we

750
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,200
talked about, when we had prion,
a couple weeks back about the,

751
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,900
the realness.
I mean, he's, he's real tell

752
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:47,400
he's gonna tell you what it is.
I mean, he's, he might tell it

753
00:43:47,408 --> 00:43:50,700
to you in a way that, you know,
that make you feel bad about it,

754
00:43:50,707 --> 00:43:53,200
but he's gonna be real with you
gonna be real with you, all

755
00:43:53,207 --> 00:43:55,200
right?
And I said it while he was

756
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,100
talking with, and I went a
little bit hardcore because I've

757
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:01,800
said, 40 39, 38, I know you
ain't 39 yet run.

758
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,200
I ain't 40 yet.
Tally.

759
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,600
I know you ain't 838 quite yet,
right shell, around it up.

760
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:07,600
It's okay.
Round it up.

761
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,300
We've been talking about.
How do we get return to power?

762
00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:13,000
How do we get to back to where
we were?

763
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,900
When we were young, you were a
baby and we were in our 20s

764
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:19,500
doing all sorts of crazy stuff.
How do we get back there?

765
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:21,500
And we were going to start off
tonight.

766
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:23,200
We're going to talk about
conference realignment because

767
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,700
it's been a Hot Topic and it is
something when you're returning

768
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:27,800
to power, it's got to be looked
at.

769
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:30,300
And I want to start first when
it came out just a couple weeks

770
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:33,600
ago back to Magnificent Seven.
It's Clem.

771
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:37,700
FSU Miami U NC NC State and UVA
all kind of getting together

772
00:44:37,700 --> 00:44:40,100
chatting about each other,
Brian.

773
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,500
What did that tell you?
When that popped out that there

774
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:46,400
was they, a group of teams
effectively, kind of chat about

775
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,600
each other?
Like, you know, how long can we

776
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,600
actually deal with this shit?
I mean, I think it speaks to the

777
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:59,700
unrest with the current payouts
that the ACCC has for their

778
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:03,200
bigger programs, especially the
programs that are drawing eyes.

779
00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:09,800
To the television, right?
So these are programs that Have

780
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:12,300
enough Cloud even in Bad
seasons, that they're going to

781
00:45:12,308 --> 00:45:15,900
put up good ratings.
Consistently even against, you

782
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:20,400
know, bad opponents even when
the team itself is like us last

783
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,800
year a 3 and 18 and you know you
look at Virginia Tech, obviously

784
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,700
you got Clemson.
We know how good they've been

785
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,900
you know you look at at FSU,
they're back on the rise, they

786
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:39,000
have such a consistent fan base,
you know, Miami.

787
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,200
Through.
They are, you got you NC NC

788
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:47,400
State, very passionate fan base,
very much land, grant University

789
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,900
just like Virginia Tech.
So I mean NC State's probably as

790
00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:53,800
close to a sister School in the
ACC as we can get.

791
00:45:54,000 --> 00:46:00,500
And then you got UVA, which is
more of the truly Olympic sport

792
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:03,300
dominance.
I mean, so when you kind of look

793
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:04,900
at all those together, I mean it
makes sense.

794
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:08,000
That that is kind of the group
that was looking to make some

795
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,100
moves.
If I understand the, I can

796
00:46:12,100 --> 00:46:14,100
understand their frustration
with the current state of the

797
00:46:14,107 --> 00:46:19,100
media payout, right?
It's when you compare it to like

798
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:23,400
universities in the Big Ten and
the SEC, it's just ridiculous.

799
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,700
It is ridicu, Sheldon, tell
anything to add on top of that,

800
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,800
there are many motherfuckers,
just tired of playing on the

801
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,300
cooking network at 11:00 and I
don't matter.

802
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:35,800
If we only won three games, you
know what I'm saying, we'll put

803
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,700
up a graphic later on, it's
other teams has been winning

804
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:42,300
three games and they playing at
at times and playing on, you

805
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:46,300
know, Plan on networks, this
much better than some of the

806
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:49,000
stuff that we've had to do and
you got to find a stream and

807
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,400
stuff.
Like, when you have a fan base,

808
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,800
just as passionate as I was
like, you got to give them a

809
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,600
product, you know what I mean?
As far as on the field but also

810
00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:01,900
even we just missed the ball on
a lot of stuff lately.

811
00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:06,300
So yeah.
What Brian is saying like the

812
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,700
The schools that have been The
Magnificent Seven, looking to

813
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:14,900
make a move.
I definitely understand why can

814
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:18,600
you get anything on this?
Yeah, I mean, nothing like super

815
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,500
insightful.
I just think it's kind of crazy

816
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:23,900
that like, over the next ten or
so, years, whenever the contract

817
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:27,200
expire, Vanderbilt's gonna be
making forty million dollars a

818
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,000
year more than Eva Tsui and
Clemson.

819
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:32,200
So I don't know, right to what
degree to what degree can never

820
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,200
assume Clemson actually tolerate
that I don't know, but they're

821
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,000
not to lower their ass out of
that Geor is, it's Damned.

822
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:40,600
That's bleep and I'm gonna
definitely ask that.

823
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,100
The only reason that the one
thing that I will say about

824
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:47,000
these seven schools about this
happening, is people can say, oh

825
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,700
no, there's been no contact,
there's been no communication

826
00:47:49,700 --> 00:47:53,100
between bullshit.
If they're coming up and they're

827
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:55,900
talking to each other, there has
been communication from other

828
00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:58,900
conferences.
I would bet my ass on that

829
00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:00,800
because there ain't no need to
talk about it.

830
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,400
Unless there's potentially some
where to go now.

831
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,400
I'm going to flip to you on this
Shelton.

832
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,800
Is it just basically covering a
gunshot wound with a Band-Aid

833
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,300
with the acc's?
You pay structure trying to pay

834
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:15,900
the better?
You do the more you get?

835
00:48:16,900 --> 00:48:19,300
Yeah, from the research.
I've seen it's a very, very

836
00:48:19,300 --> 00:48:20,900
small impact.
Like, I don't know what the

837
00:48:20,908 --> 00:48:23,600
exact numbers are, but that's,
that's like chump change.

838
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,300
It's not going to change much
like you have to change the

839
00:48:25,308 --> 00:48:27,200
actual structure of the
television contract.

840
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,200
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Y'all boys.

841
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,900
Got anything on that?
I mean, great.

842
00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:33,600
You get I get all of my bowl
money.

843
00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:37,100
Great!
Wonderful birthday.

844
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:50,600
Don't add 18 million Bond.
And here's the thing though, and

845
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,200
eventually this is probably what
could kill the ACC.

846
00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:58,700
It can't be broken right now.
Although there are MERS about a

847
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:01,100
part of it, they could be broken
in a couple years.

848
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,400
Somebody's got to show the new
Grand race for that can be seen,

849
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,300
but it only takes 8 to dissolve
the league.

850
00:49:07,900 --> 00:49:11,000
It only takes eight.
There's clearly seven that a

851
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,700
happy about where they are.
You found an eight that has a

852
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:16,800
partner with a lot more money.
They can bring him to that

853
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,700
program.
Do y'all think that will happen

854
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:22,900
before we see anything?
Do you think the grant of rights

855
00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:25,700
be dissolved?
Whoever wants to lead this?

856
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,900
Sally, I'll let you roll first
on this one.

857
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:31,100
I don't know.
I don't know.

858
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,300
Shit.
I was waiting to see what you

859
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:35,900
had to say.
I'm just, I'm kind of surprised.

860
00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:37,800
I'm kind of surprised, kid move
outward in there.

861
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:41,000
At least one of them.
Yeah, I can see, Louisville more

862
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,300
than Pit to be honest.
Because I feel like they have

863
00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:48,300
some of the more elements that
are both attractive to the Big

864
00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:55,500
Ten and to the SEC in terms of
you know, probably the Big Ten a

865
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:57,500
little bit more because they're
getting an additional Market

866
00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:01,900
that they don't have right now.
Yeah, although Penn State's got

867
00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:05,200
a big hole in Pennsylvania.
So I think what's going on.

868
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,000
This is my opinion, my opinion
on.

869
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,400
I think the 18 going to go to
the big 12 and I think what

870
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,200
they're going to look at.
It's like Louisville to pit.

871
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:15,800
Good good.
Good call on those two Sheldon

872
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:18,900
for the Big 12.
It's well, it's a different

873
00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:21,600
Market.
We pick up someone closer, you

874
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,700
kind of have that Cincinnati
West Virginia.

875
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:27,500
You've got that little Rust Belt
feel to it and they're going to

876
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:30,500
look back and say, okay, we
can't get Here and here because

877
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:36,700
whatever but can we is it okay
to make 15 or 20 million more

878
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:39,500
year?
Not 30 to 45 million more year?

879
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:41,400
And I've been really think
that's what's going to happen.

880
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,900
There's going to be someone in
there that just says, you know

881
00:50:43,900 --> 00:50:47,500
what, fuck this goddamn 30
million dollars a year.

882
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,800
The Big 12 can give us 55.
I wish we could get 85.

883
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,000
But you know what?
We want to stay relevant.

884
00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:57,900
We got to do that.
That's my opinion.

885
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,500
And I think that's a visually.
What's going to kill the ACC

886
00:51:00,700 --> 00:51:03,300
unless they can renew
renegotiate, the contract?

887
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,900
Because the honest truth is and
I'll say this dead pain.

888
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:10,800
Should the ACC be making as much
money as the SEC of the Big Ten

889
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,200
though?
They don't pull the ratings.

890
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:15,500
Should they be making as much
less that they are right now?

891
00:51:15,500 --> 00:51:18,600
No, I think it's closer than
people think, but that is what

892
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,300
it is.
Well, at least he's at least

893
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:23,400
these to be higher than what the
big clubs making right now,

894
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,500
which is it's not it's not
That's the bullshit part of it.

895
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,900
And it's not even going to be
once, you know, Texas and

896
00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:33,300
Oklahoma, take a fucking hike.
So they took a dip.

897
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,700
It took a dip.
Yeah, they basically

898
00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:39,700
renegotiated at basically, but
it's still going to be a movie

899
00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:44,500
ACC even at the radiation level.
I almost start with you on this

900
00:51:44,500 --> 00:51:46,900
show.
What's your preference?

901
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:52,100
The Big Ten or the SEC,
definitely a sec, okay?

902
00:51:52,500 --> 00:51:55,600
I would rather, I would rather
lose to LG by 40, just That was

903
00:51:55,600 --> 00:52:00,500
you by 40 football game.
I don't care.

904
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:24,600
I don't know.
No, thank you.

905
00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:27,900
No, thank you with everything
you need.

906
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:30,700
You just say it was good for
you, man, for me.

907
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,500
Because if we go to the SEC I
live in the middle of a sec

908
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:37,700
country, I don't want to get
fucked up by Alabama Auburn,

909
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:44,000
text it Tennessee, every week.
No, I'm good on that, but I do

910
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,500
understand what you're saying.
I'm just saying, we can get more

911
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:50,700
money.
We got two options, we can get

912
00:52:50,700 --> 00:52:54,200
more money with both options.
I'd like to take the little bit

913
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,100
of power.
If of least resistance, I want

914
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:59,800
to win a little bit more games
like I'm 37, man.

915
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,200
I'm not trying to get beat by
40.

916
00:53:02,900 --> 00:53:10,500
You younger than me, shit, I
want to win.

917
00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:17,500
Now that's just me.
I can understand what shall we

918
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:21,700
get?
Yeah, I mean I'm kind of with

919
00:53:21,700 --> 00:53:25,800
Talia a little bit.
I think the Big Ten is a Good

920
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,100
fit probably from an entire
athletic department standpoint.

921
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:32,500
You know when you think about
wrestling and things like that,

922
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,600
I think if you're just looking
at the football side of it, the

923
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:41,200
SEC is a better fit but at the
same time when I when I compare

924
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,400
the two travel overall is going
to be about the same.

925
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,000
So that's to me, not not much of
a factor, you know, some people

926
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,700
are we'll talk.
Whether that's may be affecting

927
00:53:50,700 --> 00:53:53,900
three games a year.
I mean, it's cold as shit in

928
00:53:53,900 --> 00:53:57,100
Blacksburg and in October late,
October, and early November

929
00:53:57,100 --> 00:54:00,100
anyway, so that's not, that's
not a big deal to me.

930
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,800
So it really comes down to if we
go to the Big 10, you know, if

931
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,600
we take some steps we could
potentially be.

932
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:12,700
You know that fifth or sixth
maybe seventh best program in

933
00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:16,700
the conference at some point in
the near future I don't know we

934
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:18,800
quit.
I don't know if we in the near

935
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,700
future.
Are the sixth or seventh best

936
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:25,000
team in the Sec in the next two
to three years.

937
00:54:26,500 --> 00:54:28,600
If you're looking to be
competitive in the, in the

938
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:33,700
conference and also still
reaping, the financial benefits,

939
00:54:33,700 --> 00:54:39,100
the Big Ten is the answer.
NC as cool as Shelton.

940
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:44,000
You you made it.
You made it like seeing LSU

941
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:48,200
Planet Alabama, having them come
see, that's the funny part.

942
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:55,200
We're old 20 years ago, we saw
LSU and Texas A&M, come on shit

943
00:54:55,700 --> 00:54:58,600
but it's more of what this I
don't know who this is.

944
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,600
I wish they had their names
because effectively I think with

945
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,100
the Big Ten if to me I'm looking
at it as a as a whole Whole,

946
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,000
Wisconsin and Iowa.
They always do what they do out

947
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,900
in the west Nebraska has to
prove.

948
00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:15,900
He can get back.
There's three main ones and I

949
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:19,200
look in the whole realm of it
and it's like if tech gets back

950
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:24,000
where it was just a decade ago,
just at the end of the 2000s or

951
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:29,500
the late 2000s and early 2010's,
it can be the fourth or third

952
00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:31,700
best in that conference.
Yeah.

953
00:55:31,900 --> 00:55:35,700
And and then also, it's the
travel piece of you.

954
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,900
Maryland Rutgers Ohio State
Indiana there five, six hour

955
00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:42,200
drives, Brian you made the
point.

956
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,900
It's not an overall, it's not
going to be anything, but I feel

957
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:48,200
like the big Ten's a better fit,
I also.

958
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,800
And this is the way I feel.
I think the Big Ten Wolf's that

959
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,400
DC Northern Virginia Market.
I think they feel, if they look

960
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,300
at us, they're saying we're not
only getting that market.

961
00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:58,800
We're going to get the Charlotte
Market to.

962
00:55:59,300 --> 00:56:02,100
We're going to get this big
Market where they can pull two

963
00:56:02,100 --> 00:56:04,500
to two and a half, three and a
half, four, and a half million

964
00:56:04,500 --> 00:56:07,400
on a normal game day.
Day for TV and that's where it

965
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,600
goes and they might get some of
that Triad to.

966
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:14,500
That's true tried.
All right last piece I'll let

967
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:17,500
y'all go just real quick and
I'll name mine first.

968
00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:21,100
I think yes we can return to
power outside of the Big Tooth

969
00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:23,300
because I think the way it's
going to be set up.

970
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:27,000
Is there still going to give
crumbs to lower tier

971
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,300
conferences?
What about y'all?

972
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,700
I think there's a chance because
I think with the, with the

973
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:36,900
college football, playoff coming
in, there's still going to be

974
00:56:36,900 --> 00:56:40,900
some room for people to eat.
So if you're, if you're the big

975
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:46,800
dog at the, you know, whatever
the number three is just below

976
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,600
the big to your in at least be
in the conversation.

977
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,400
People are going to be talking
about you so there's still some

978
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:56,000
potential there.
It will be kind of a big East

979
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,600
type situation where you won't
get respected until you go out

980
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,400
there and kick somebody in the
teeth, right?

981
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,500
But I think you can still get
there.

982
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:06,400
Yeah, take it.
Back my heart.

983
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:11,100
You have some say, piggyback on
kind of what Brian saying it's

984
00:57:11,100 --> 00:57:13,400
going to be harder.
But I think there's opportunity

985
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,600
and again, you just can't, what
would you take?

986
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:21,700
Has as far as the fan base and
the venue is just if you need to

987
00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:25,300
its own.
So it's going to keep attracting

988
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:28,000
people, no matter what, no
matter what conference so,

989
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,700
Opportunity.
But a lot Slimmer.

990
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:37,500
Yep.
Significantly lower margin for

991
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:39,000
error.
You're essentially talking

992
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,800
about, you got to be undefeated
or one loss.

993
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:46,100
If you want to be relevant it
looks like the big to you're

994
00:57:46,100 --> 00:57:50,000
looking like Cincinnati now.
Yeah you know, a school like

995
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,500
that perfect way to say.
Alright let's do the next and

996
00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:55,400
it's got to be done.
It's got to be talked about the

997
00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:00,800
school administration because
there's a, I think text out of

998
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,300
1.8 billion dollar endowment.
Clearly we saw from that

999
00:58:04,300 --> 00:58:06,100
graphic.
Just the other Eat the athletic

1000
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:09,100
department is an absolutely no
debt while they were able to

1001
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:12,600
make that decision to
effectively, take what 5.9

1002
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,200
million, in build, a new locker
room because you ain't got no

1003
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,600
dead, it's easy to ask for
money.

1004
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:20,900
What?
Babcock?

1005
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:24,900
As we all know, as a Flashpoint
discussion, when you talk to any

1006
00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:26,900
hokey fans, there are people
that love with there.

1007
00:58:26,900 --> 00:58:31,200
Are people that absolutely hate
with, but can he be the ad to

1008
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:31,800
leave?
This?

1009
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,800
She also near an alumni.
So I'm gonna ask you this one

1010
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,000
first.
Can he lead?

1011
00:58:35,100 --> 00:58:36,700
Read this back to where we want
to be.

1012
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,400
I think you can.
Yes, what happened?

1013
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,100
Tpd obviously.
There's there's a lot of I think

1014
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:48,400
politics that goes on inside of
school administrations at like

1015
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,400
administration's.
Like it's really really complex.

1016
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:53,400
I think a lot more so than a lot
of people on the outside kind of

1017
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,500
want to admit.
I think what's done a really

1018
00:58:56,500 --> 00:58:59,800
good job of obviously building
up our Olympic sports programs.

1019
00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:02,700
Be kind of see that with the
number of new sports to success

1020
00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:06,900
there with football.
I Think It's tricky because

1021
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:10,100
honestly, you know, inherited
situation where we had some debt

1022
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:13,900
from from the Weaver era and it
took us a while to kind of build

1023
00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:16,400
up, you know.
The fundraising and all that

1024
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,200
stuff with like support staff
and coaching centers and

1025
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:21,100
Facilities like all that stuff
takes time.

1026
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,100
Like I said, I think there's
there's a lot of factors that go

1027
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:25,100
into it.
There's a lot of people that

1028
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:27,400
have to make decisions about
that kind of stuff.

1029
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,400
It's not just wit obviously to
Falls with him as a maybe but I

1030
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,500
think Tech is in a much better
spot resources Lies when it

1031
00:59:34,500 --> 00:59:36,300
comes to those three things that
I mentioned.

1032
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,600
There's trying to put more money
into the program and right now I

1033
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,500
think it's just a matter of
Coach probably being able to get

1034
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,400
a job done.
Like I just Think, for me, I

1035
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,200
just think the coaches have to
win games, like it's that

1036
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,400
simple.
I mean, we're not, you know,

1037
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,000
this isn't like that 2012 where
we're falling behind, like we've

1038
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000
got the money, we've got the
money, be a top buddy program.

1039
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,600
I think I just think we need the
coaches to kind of step up and

1040
00:59:58,100 --> 01:00:02,100
do the jobs Kylie, will you
think I agree?

1041
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:07,500
I agree with Shelton saying
there, you know, even when he'd

1042
01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:10,300
I do think it needs to be a
little bit more of a focus on

1043
01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:11,700
football.
Because football is your money

1044
01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:21,000
maker from Our perspective from
somebody who is holding the

1045
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,400
money who's making the decisions
is like, well, best girls, you

1046
01:00:24,408 --> 01:00:27,600
know, when his basketball is
doing this, or baseball is going

1047
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,800
here, football steal the money
maker but you got to promote

1048
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,000
that because that's what's
winning at the time.

1049
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:37,800
But as much as everybody jumped
on with last year, or in the

1050
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,500
past years, and say we should be
playing here, we should be

1051
01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:42,600
playing here.
Well, if we went in, did with

1052
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,700
the fuck, we were supposed to do
and beat the shit.

1053
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,300
Out of ODU.
I'll beat the shit out of

1054
01:00:46,308 --> 01:00:48,500
Liberty.
Nobody cares that we go to and

1055
01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:51,400
play.
It's just, we didn't get the job

1056
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,600
done.
You know, the players didn't do

1057
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:58,700
it in the coaches, didn't do it.
So if we do play ODU, or we do

1058
01:00:58,700 --> 01:01:02,200
play Liberty or whoever the fuck
we play, whose line up in front

1059
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,300
of us.
If we go in there and their

1060
01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:06,800
coaches, do that job, like,
Sheldon saying, I don't think

1061
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,600
that we here witch named as
much, you know, like for

1062
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,300
scheduling those games, like we
can, we should be winning them.

1063
01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:19,200
Even at ODU last year, that
wasn't with fault that we lost.

1064
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,400
We may have shouldn't have went
there, whatever, but it wasn't

1065
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,600
his fault that we lost and you
don't, we made mistakes and we

1066
01:01:25,607 --> 01:01:28,600
lost the game, you know, if we
go down there and we drum them

1067
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,600
like we supposed to then
everybody's happy and we on to

1068
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:36,200
the next week.
So I think that we can be in

1069
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,700
this position and we can and we
can start that start that run

1070
01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:42,000
back up.
Gabe Williams already showed us

1071
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,600
that.
Yeah and I mean look at that.

1072
01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:50,000
I mean, you know, Whit was kind
of dealt a less-than-ideal hand

1073
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,200
from the end of the, the Weaver
are, right?

1074
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:59,500
So you know, I know I get the
focus on building back the, you

1075
01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:01,700
know, some of the Olympics for
it's in the non residue because

1076
01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:06,900
those were heavily neglected.
The entire depart was to

1077
01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:09,700
collected across the board
towards the end there, but

1078
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:12,600
particularly those kind of
letter left flailing by the

1079
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,400
wayside there.
You know, he's gotten those back

1080
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,800
to a point where you feel like
there's stability consistently

1081
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,300
competing and then we started to
see some of the money kind of

1082
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:26,600
come back in but you know, we
look back it's part of that is

1083
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,300
the laissez-faire Mom and Pop
Style managing that we saw

1084
01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:33,500
towards the end of the Weaver
are and we were just being her

1085
01:02:33,500 --> 01:02:36,600
was taken care of business.
And there wasn't a whole lot of

1086
01:02:36,607 --> 01:02:40,100
money put in there, so, I feel
like that, that played a big

1087
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:43,800
factor in how it kind of
prioritize football less out the

1088
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,800
gate.
And probably put him, you know,

1089
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,100
in the in the target of a lot of
a lot of hokey football fans

1090
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:53,700
because I mean football is the
Bell cow man football pays the

1091
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:58,700
bills so hopefully, you know,
because of that, hopefully we

1092
01:02:58,700 --> 01:03:02,300
don't end up losing some of the
overall Revenue.

1093
01:03:02,300 --> 01:03:07,000
The the kind of raising all
boats there because we let

1094
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,300
football kind of flounder there
for a little bit, but at that

1095
01:03:09,300 --> 01:03:11,200
definitely think wit can turn it
around.

1096
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:14,200
We got some good investment
coming in now between the locker

1097
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,800
room.
You know, some of the, the big

1098
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:21,300
initiatives on some of the
facilities that we're doing and

1099
01:03:21,308 --> 01:03:23,400
things like that.
So in the, in the bigger

1100
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,500
emphasis on building the staff,
so like those, their salary pool

1101
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:30,500
for the coaches, as big for me,
especially when we look at the

1102
01:03:30,508 --> 01:03:35,100
off-field roles as well.
So if we can keep moving in that

1103
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:39,100
direction, I feel pretty good.
I'm with all y'all on this.

1104
01:03:39,100 --> 01:03:41,200
I think he can be the man to
lead the way, just the way he

1105
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,400
built up the other parts of the
program and then what he did

1106
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,000
effectively in 2018 because he
was building it up, he was

1107
01:03:49,008 --> 01:03:52,000
dumping money elsewhere.
And when that season went down

1108
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:57,400
the shitter, he pivoted hard and
sort of dumping money back in

1109
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,700
the football because he knew
effectively, it wasn't like, it

1110
01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:03,200
was with Frank.
We weren't just going to keep

1111
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:04,800
going.
It was like that too.

1112
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,300
Few first few years but he
pivoted, Hardy got those new

1113
01:04:08,300 --> 01:04:12,400
dorms built talking, remember
that happening at the new dorms

1114
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,000
built, made some upgrades
facility.

1115
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,300
So I think he saw it and now
he's clearly dumping even more

1116
01:04:17,300 --> 01:04:24,200
money into the football program.
I'm going to be real cool with

1117
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:29,300
this one.
Is wits hands tied by Tim

1118
01:04:29,300 --> 01:04:31,500
sayings.
Because Tam's is on record and

1119
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:34,600
saying, effectively, he does not
believe in the football arms

1120
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,600
race.
That's on record, that's not me.

1121
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,100
Just making it pulling something
out of my ass.

1122
01:04:40,100 --> 01:04:44,000
He said that and now he sits in
a conference, this making 40

1123
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:47,000
million a year, when their other
conferences, making 100 million

1124
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,100
a year.
Do y'all think Sands ties his

1125
01:04:50,100 --> 01:04:54,100
hands?
Sheldon kind of hit on that

1126
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:58,300
earlier.
So Sean, I actually think his

1127
01:04:58,300 --> 01:05:01,900
hands are tied by other people
in the ID personally.

1128
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:13,400
Well yeah I'm not going to I'm
not going to so you know, I'm

1129
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:16,800
not going to comment on that but
I do think way to sort of like a

1130
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,700
punching bag for fans who are
just mad and one of them to

1131
01:05:18,700 --> 01:05:22,500
about the state of the program.
He's a good idea obviously.

1132
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:25,900
Like like Curtis mention, you
know, his intelligence is not

1133
01:05:25,900 --> 01:05:28,300
the issue like he's done a great
job, putting up the revenues for

1134
01:05:28,300 --> 01:05:31,000
the number of Miss Cortez.
We talked about, I just think

1135
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:33,300
it's a matter of getting, you
know, getting this staff to

1136
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:36,500
support they need and just, you
know, having enough time to kind

1137
01:05:36,500 --> 01:05:38,700
of wait it out.
But yeah, as far as Sands goes

1138
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:42,300
like there's probably a certain
people that also play a factor

1139
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:46,300
in that, that type of stuff.
So that's kind of my that's come

1140
01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:48,800
up in the news is another thing
too.

1141
01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:51,500
I may just kind of the same
point but a little bit

1142
01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:54,000
different.
What is your Virginia Tech fans

1143
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,500
talk about?
Excuse me.

1144
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,800
I was a genie tech fans talking
about.

1145
01:05:59,100 --> 01:06:02,200
Oh, he's a, he's a nice.
A, a snake said, snake oil

1146
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:04,700
salesman.
Well, he's a used car salesman,

1147
01:06:04,700 --> 01:06:06,300
the, some talking about
different coaches.

1148
01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:08,700
Well, fuck it.
You got to be some kind of

1149
01:06:08,700 --> 01:06:13,600
salesman, and we Punnett six
years with a coach who was just

1150
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,900
like, hey, this is what it is,
you know, until it came to the

1151
01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:18,200
end.
And he says, I need help.

1152
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,200
I need this.
I need that.

1153
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:24,200
You got to have a coach that can
stand In front of not, just

1154
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:27,900
with, but stand in front of the
athletic department and say, for

1155
01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:30,800
us to be successful, this is
what we gotta do.

1156
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,000
So he's got to be a Salesman to
do that and I think prize been

1157
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,800
doing that, the weighted he came
in and the way to he, he hit the

1158
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:38,600
ground running.
I know.

1159
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,900
It seems like it's been years
and years ago, but when he

1160
01:06:41,900 --> 01:06:45,900
arrived him, going to all the
different events and shaking

1161
01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:49,800
hands and kissing babies and
sitting at groundwork, you got

1162
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,600
to be able to do that to show
the athletic department, where

1163
01:06:52,700 --> 01:06:55,000
You're trying to get to, as a
football department.

1164
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:59,100
So 100%, I this is a simple.
Yes, or no question.

1165
01:07:00,700 --> 01:07:04,800
Can this Administration Sands
everybody in the athletic

1166
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,000
department with included?
Can they fast-track enough

1167
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:09,700
resources in the next five
years?

1168
01:07:09,700 --> 01:07:16,500
So say 2029 to get us ahead or
level with most tier 2 non

1169
01:07:16,500 --> 01:07:21,100
Blueblood programs Ryan.
I mean I think we're on the

1170
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:22,800
right track for that already,
right?

1171
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,400
So, you know, we already moved
up into kind of the top two or

1172
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:30,600
three, four, sometimes, five,
depending on the year, in terms

1173
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,100
of what we're paying coaches,
we're starting to move that way

1174
01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:37,200
into what we potentially could
pay recruiting staff.

1175
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,300
So we're not going to be Clemson
right out the gate.

1176
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:43,300
We're probably not going to be
Florida state anytime soon, but

1177
01:07:43,300 --> 01:07:48,100
I think we can definitely be a
tour ahead of everybody else in

1178
01:07:48,100 --> 01:07:51,700
our conference, right?
Now on that front so I

1179
01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:54,100
definitely think that's doable,
okay.

1180
01:07:54,500 --> 01:07:59,700
Now if you're talking about if
we're in the SEC in three to

1181
01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:03,600
four years, that's when it gets
a little more questionable, but

1182
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,600
I think we've got a decent
enough Foundation.

1183
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,500
Where we're not going to be
behind, I just don't know

1184
01:08:09,500 --> 01:08:10,900
whether we're catching up to
those.

1185
01:08:10,900 --> 01:08:14,200
Tier two programs, if that's the
path we end up going down.

1186
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:19,800
Yeah, I've personally I just I
don't think money is that big of

1187
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,100
it?
I mean it's money met but you

1188
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:24,200
reason that we're not like a top
10 or top plate program, but I

1189
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,399
don't think it's a reason why we
can't be, you know, talk 30,

1190
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,100
like we've got the resources,
our facilities are good, you

1191
01:08:29,108 --> 01:08:31,200
know, the support staff, they've
got all this position.

1192
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,000
So it's like we've got the,
we've got, the resources were

1193
01:08:34,008 --> 01:08:35,700
investing now.
It's just a matter of time

1194
01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:39,700
before it pays off coaches.
I think it comes down to the

1195
01:08:39,700 --> 01:08:42,300
coach.
I've been, it comes down to the

1196
01:08:42,300 --> 01:08:44,899
product.
And, like I said, you got a

1197
01:08:44,907 --> 01:08:48,200
headache coaches, leading the
program yet, Experiment believe.

1198
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,000
So, even when you do go three
and eight, you still got people

1199
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:52,700
to say, hey, we're going to
follow this guy.

1200
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,000
So right now, I think we're in
the right direction.

1201
01:08:56,899 --> 01:09:00,100
Prior to going to be watching
us, man, I need your help this

1202
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:05,100
year, go fuck some people up,
there you go.

1203
01:09:05,300 --> 01:09:09,000
I so obviously the next big
elephant in the room and it's

1204
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,200
always in the room because it
seems like if I talkin about

1205
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:17,600
including Dion, just the other
day is in il and What do y'all

1206
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:21,300
think about the football
donation strategy, prioritizing

1207
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:25,300
ni L donations over donations to
the Hokie Club, over donations,

1208
01:09:25,300 --> 01:09:28,800
to the scholarship fund?
Does it have to be a

1209
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,500
prioritization?
I mean, we're not in debt.

1210
01:09:32,700 --> 01:09:36,399
I didn't do it.
I mean, and IL has to be a focus

1211
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:40,399
whether it's the focus or not is
I guess the big question, right?

1212
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:46,100
If you're not if you don't have
a significant in il presence,

1213
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:49,800
you're going to be falling
behind on the recruiting trail

1214
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,800
and I think not so much with
getting guys.

1215
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:57,900
Like I think, I mean it's dumb.
Some of the stuff I've seen some

1216
01:09:57,900 --> 01:10:01,500
like tier two, tier two tier
three programs do to get like a

1217
01:10:01,500 --> 01:10:05,500
mid three.
To give program that shit's dumb

1218
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:11,500
but where we need to be good at
is if we've got a four star that

1219
01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:14,500
is ready to commit, but we're
not quite where they need to be.

1220
01:10:14,500 --> 01:10:17,700
We got to be able to push that
over the top and make it close

1221
01:10:17,700 --> 01:10:21,000
that deal.
If we've got a star player on

1222
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:26,600
our team that getting some
Nibbles from bigger programs,

1223
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,400
we've got to be able to push
that a little bit hired to

1224
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:34,300
incentivize that player to stay.
In Blacksburg, that's where it's

1225
01:10:34,300 --> 01:10:37,900
going to be the big winds from
an ni o perspective.

1226
01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:41,200
So I don't think it needs to
overtake the Hokie Club in terms

1227
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:44,000
of priority, but I definitely
think it needs to be a tiered

1228
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,700
approach in how we're funding
the program going forward.

1229
01:10:49,100 --> 01:10:50,200
I agree.
I agree.

1230
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,700
Because, again, mind that use
not the main thing, but one of

1231
01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:57,600
the things you hit, all right
then and like coach process, it

1232
01:10:58,100 --> 01:11:01,000
Shameless plug.
If you haven't seen it, go back

1233
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,000
and watch it.
Cold for our.

1234
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,200
See it, you got coaches, talking
to you players during the

1235
01:11:07,208 --> 01:11:10,200
season, pretty much did, you
know, you got coaches, trying to

1236
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,500
poacher poacher players all the
time.

1237
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:18,400
So nrel has to be somewhere in
there to be like, hey, we can

1238
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,200
take care of you here.
Here we go.

1239
01:11:20,900 --> 01:11:23,700
We got you, you know, you've
already proved yourself here.

1240
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:30,300
Let us let us, you know, do what
we do and let you continue to

1241
01:11:30,300 --> 01:11:33,200
grow here.
So And I are definitely has to

1242
01:11:33,208 --> 01:11:35,900
be a focus because of things
like that.

1243
01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:41,400
Not the focus, but a focus.
And I mean the other thought

1244
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,500
about it too.
Is y'all think we're like the

1245
01:11:44,500 --> 01:11:47,100
Deon interview yesterday about
it?

1246
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,800
Was there's only to me.
He was trying to say, only

1247
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,000
Elite.
Guys should get in il.

1248
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,500
These collectives are the
problems and it's like so a guy

1249
01:11:57,500 --> 01:12:01,400
killing himself.
Shouldn't get any money for

1250
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,500
playing college football Dion.
I hated that, I hated him saying

1251
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:05,900
that if you all doing here you
go.

1252
01:12:05,900 --> 01:12:08,500
Looks like my son could get a
million dollar deal.

1253
01:12:08,500 --> 01:12:12,000
It's like so the kid over here
shouldn't get twenty thousand

1254
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,300
dollars for planted.
I agree with him from a high

1255
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:18,800
school recruit standpoint but
the other but despite the

1256
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:23,000
player, Your retention, if you
got a kid, that's developing

1257
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:26,900
well, and doing all the right
stuff, you should be able to put

1258
01:12:26,900 --> 01:12:31,000
some stuff on that player.
Whether he's getting Nibbles

1259
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,800
from outside of the program or
not.

1260
01:12:34,500 --> 01:12:36,700
So the and that's why it's a
question is, there's our

1261
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:40,400
strategy, right?
I mean, all I'll say is this, I

1262
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,100
think our strategy is working
good.

1263
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:46,300
Did Mansoor go anywhere after
being clearly, clearly hit up by

1264
01:12:46,308 --> 01:12:49,000
a bunch of people, probably with
a nice bunch of money in his

1265
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:53,600
pocket for his pockets.
I mean are you still okay?

1266
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,900
So you sit here, if we did it,
if we're doing it right or doing

1267
01:12:57,900 --> 01:13:01,600
it wrong, I think the
collectives and all are doing

1268
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,600
it, right?
They're finding ways to get it

1269
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:11,200
done, you know?
And and that's the pieces like

1270
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:16,200
is it right when guys like that?
Don't leave and you clearly see

1271
01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:19,400
you know, and I know he's not
involved yet likely with it.

1272
01:13:19,500 --> 01:13:22,200
But guys like Gabe, come on
clearly the Visions laid out

1273
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:29,500
there within IL and In as far as
leveling up at the ni o, do we

1274
01:13:29,500 --> 01:13:31,900
need to?
I mean yeah, everybody needs to

1275
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:36,300
write in some way but because
this is it's always going to be

1276
01:13:36,300 --> 01:13:38,300
changing.
It is they're gonna come in,

1277
01:13:38,300 --> 01:13:40,400
they're gonna put some
restrictions in it or they're

1278
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,000
gonna come in and they're going
to say this and they're going to

1279
01:13:42,008 --> 01:13:43,300
do that.
So you're always going to have

1280
01:13:43,300 --> 01:13:45,900
some stuff going, that's a
little bit different.

1281
01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:51,400
I'm excited that we are just
having a part in it now, because

1282
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:53,600
down here, while I'm at it, it's
been happening.

1283
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,100
Like yeah, fuck.
And I ll it was just like do

1284
01:13:57,100 --> 01:14:00,200
your mama need a house?
Or you need a car, here you go,

1285
01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:03,400
you know what I'm saying?
So to have something that just

1286
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,200
at least puts us you do in the
same ballpark with some of those

1287
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:14,000
schools helps 100% All right,
let's flip it over because it's

1288
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:17,500
we've been leveling.
We got to get to recruiting and

1289
01:14:17,500 --> 01:14:21,300
I'm going to put just want to
tally because Shelton, Brian

1290
01:14:21,300 --> 01:14:23,700
myself.
I think I bias might show

1291
01:14:23,700 --> 01:14:26,700
through on this one.
I felt tallied in and outside

1292
01:14:26,700 --> 01:14:29,600
guy being from Alabama, might be
a little bit more.

1293
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:33,900
So tally, what's more important
getting the best players we can

1294
01:14:33,900 --> 01:14:37,200
in our 6:00 hour radius or
recruiting the state of

1295
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:42,700
Virginia, better than any other
team, Penn State UNC Carolyn NC

1296
01:14:42,700 --> 01:14:46,900
State.
Clemson etc, etc. so tough

1297
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:51,200
question, and it's kind of hard
to answer because you gotta You

1298
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,100
got to kind of do both.
You know I'm saying?

1299
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:55,800
Like you really don't have a
choice but to do both, it's like

1300
01:14:55,800 --> 01:15:01,700
that six hour radius. 6 hours is
not impossible to drive to go to

1301
01:15:01,700 --> 01:15:03,900
a football game, therefore, a
family.

1302
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:09,000
You know what I'm saying?
The state of Virginia, or people

1303
01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,400
close to Virginia, Tech 4 hours
away, three hours away.

1304
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:18,100
We'll go watch.
Somebody play that is from their

1305
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:21,500
school, you know?
So that goes, A long two.

1306
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:26,300
Hotel rooms being rented, that
goes along with the city of

1307
01:15:26,300 --> 01:15:28,800
Blacksburg making money because
people going to restaurants,

1308
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:32,200
that goes along to selling out
the stadium, having a better

1309
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:36,800
crowd for TV selling more
concessions, while you're there

1310
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:41,200
then just recruiting people to
recruit them and then their

1311
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,700
families can't come, watch them.
You don't have nobody to watch

1312
01:15:43,700 --> 01:15:47,100
him play.
So recruiting the best in the

1313
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:51,200
state is good or getting the
best players from the stadium.

1314
01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:57,200
Or between instead of Virginia
is good, but you can't neglect.

1315
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:58,900
Like we talking about Gabe
Williams.

1316
01:15:58,900 --> 01:16:01,200
You can't neglect a player, like
gave Williams.

1317
01:16:01,700 --> 01:16:06,200
That is the spearhead right now
of this 2024 class.

1318
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:09,400
And I do think we get some guys
from Virginia.

1319
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:13,800
I do think we get, you know,
maybe 12.

1320
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,200
I don't know, top guys from
Virginia.

1321
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,500
When I say top maybe top 10 guys
from Virginia this year but

1322
01:16:21,500 --> 01:16:24,100
they're not There yet.
So if you're sitting around

1323
01:16:24,100 --> 01:16:29,800
waiting on that top 10 guy to
start your class off and they've

1324
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:35,700
been holding off and holding off
shit, you miss a big weekend

1325
01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:38,700
like you just did, you know.
So you're right.

1326
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:42,800
I guess my answer would be, you
know, that six our radius is, is

1327
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,600
probably the best route to go
just because it's so much talent

1328
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:52,900
around that area, that we'd be
missing if we didn't. but we're

1329
01:16:52,900 --> 01:16:57,500
not neglecting Virginia either,
which is what the problem was,

1330
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:04,500
before what we was doing, I'm
doing Show me what you think.

1331
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:11,000
Yeah, like guitar for me, I want
to talk a lot about, you know,

1332
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,500
locking down the state of
Virginia.

1333
01:17:12,700 --> 01:17:15,100
I think it's more helpful to
look at, in terms of just like

1334
01:17:15,300 --> 01:17:17,900
taking Blacksburg and drawing a
giant circle around it.

1335
01:17:18,300 --> 01:17:19,900
So that's where you keep
hurting.

1336
01:17:19,900 --> 01:17:23,000
So, North Carolina DMV Tennessee
excetera.

1337
01:17:23,300 --> 01:17:25,000
Personally, I know some people
might disagree this.

1338
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:27,400
I'm not super gung-ho on the
town level right now.

1339
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,200
In the state of Virginia, the
last two years it is it's been

1340
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,000
pretty rough in terms of NFL
draft picks getting.

1341
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,500
After from the state now that
might change going forward.

1342
01:17:35,700 --> 01:17:39,000
It could just be a little blip
but to me you look at over the

1343
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:41,500
past, you know, six or seven
years like most of text players,

1344
01:17:41,500 --> 01:17:45,100
the best players are from North
Carolina and an ogre killed

1345
01:17:45,100 --> 01:17:48,800
Farley Divine Diablo.
Exile the field living, you can

1346
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,800
name a bunch of them like tree
the talent.

1347
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,100
Yeah.
Trey Turner thanks for the tip

1348
01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:55,500
there.
It's like that's where the

1349
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:57,400
talent is.
I mean, like I didn't know this

1350
01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:59,300
until recently but the state of
Virginia is actually losing

1351
01:17:59,300 --> 01:18:02,200
population and North Carolina's
growing in population.

1352
01:18:02,300 --> 01:18:04,500
And so to me, like when we're
talking about what the

1353
01:18:04,500 --> 01:18:08,100
recruiting base is, you got them
to North Carolina, because

1354
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:11,100
that's where that's where our
best players have come from for

1355
01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:14,800
the most part.
Yeah, I'm with you.

1356
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:19,000
In some of this goes back to
what Pratt talks about with

1357
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,900
relationships, right?
So when we talk about a kid,

1358
01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:25,200
like Gabe Williams just came on.
He talk, what did he say?

1359
01:18:25,300 --> 01:18:31,100
Relationship with Elijah Brooks.
Yep, is a big key in why?

1360
01:18:31,100 --> 01:18:34,700
He gave Virginia Tech a look.
So you can't ignore those

1361
01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:37,900
relationships regardless of
whether they're those high

1362
01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:41,300
schools that you're spending a
significant amount of time in by

1363
01:18:41,300 --> 01:18:44,300
recruiting the state, or Whether
it's the relationships that

1364
01:18:44,300 --> 01:18:47,400
you've developed in your
recruiting footprint or from

1365
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:52,600
previous stops, you've got it,
you can't turn away a connection

1366
01:18:52,900 --> 01:18:57,000
again as tally said the problem
before, wasn't that, you know,

1367
01:18:57,000 --> 01:19:01,600
the staff lean into some of
their, you know, lower Midwest

1368
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:03,200
Roots.
There.

1369
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,100
It was that they completely
ignored the state of Virginia in

1370
01:19:06,100 --> 01:19:07,500
the process.
Yeah.

1371
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:14,200
Right so I definitely think the
six hour radius is More

1372
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,700
important from a macro version
verse perspective.

1373
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:21,800
But you know, you still need to
be in the Virginia High School's

1374
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:27,600
every year because you want to
be there when a kid is good and

1375
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,900
he wants to play for Virginia
Tech 100%, you don't want to be

1376
01:19:30,900 --> 01:19:33,600
the guy coming in last.
Are you going to be the school

1377
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:38,400
that is late to the party on a
kid that ends up being good at a

1378
01:19:38,407 --> 01:19:41,400
school that you decided to
ignore for two or three Cycles?

1379
01:19:41,700 --> 01:19:46,200
Exactly.
In in like it's like we're all

1380
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,100
here.
It's like Virginia is important

1381
01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:50,500
because likely two out of every
five players are going to be

1382
01:19:50,508 --> 01:19:53,000
purged in from Virginia.
Let's just be realistic.

1383
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,900
We look at an 85 scholarship,
probably 30 of them are.

1384
01:19:55,900 --> 01:19:58,400
So we're going to be from
Virginia, if not a little bit

1385
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:01,700
more, but I sit here and I look
at that radius, we draw that

1386
01:20:01,700 --> 01:20:06,700
Circle.
And I think there's four states

1387
01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:08,400
that are going to be critical.
I think Virginia still is

1388
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,500
critical.
I think finding stars and find

1389
01:20:11,500 --> 01:20:13,700
developmental players, which
shows going to get to in a

1390
01:20:13,708 --> 01:20:15,400
little while here, from the
state of Virginia, is going to

1391
01:20:15,407 --> 01:20:19,200
be super critical.
But the states of Florida,

1392
01:20:19,700 --> 01:20:25,100
Georgia, Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Those four states are going to

1393
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:29,600
be a to me if we get back we're
going to see it.

1394
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,600
And I'm not knocking Maryland,
but Maryland's, right next door.

1395
01:20:33,100 --> 01:20:36,100
Don't have to for drivers for to
get to Maryland.

1396
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,300
Please don't and you're not
talking in North Carolina as

1397
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:41,400
well, which is also at the two
states.

1398
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:45,400
Closest to us, that tally has
made a point four hour drive

1399
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,100
three-hour drive for those guys.
It's, those ones that are a

1400
01:20:48,108 --> 01:20:52,300
little bit further, there are
just in there just in the six

1401
01:20:52,300 --> 01:20:55,200
hours or their little bit
outside that six hour range.

1402
01:20:55,300 --> 01:21:00,500
And I think for the program it's
getting several pop 30 top, 25

1403
01:21:00,500 --> 01:21:05,100
players to commit to Tech.
Getting the inroads in those

1404
01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:07,100
schools and it may be five
years.

1405
01:21:07,100 --> 01:21:10,900
We're looking at it and saying
it's not top 30 anymore, we're

1406
01:21:10,900 --> 01:21:13,300
going to get to top 15 players
from the state of Georgia.

1407
01:21:13,300 --> 01:21:16,500
This year, we're going to get
you top 15 players from the

1408
01:21:16,500 --> 01:21:19,800
state of Ohio this year.
And it's that growth of those

1409
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:23,300
schools where it's still six
hours, somebody on the northern

1410
01:21:23,300 --> 01:21:27,500
part of Georgia can give me a
car on Friday afternoon, drive

1411
01:21:27,500 --> 01:21:29,700
up to Blacksburg.
Go see their son play.

1412
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:33,000
Get out on Sunday, drive back.
It's a full.

1413
01:21:33,100 --> 01:21:36,200
Yeah, but it's nothing that
can't be done and I think that's

1414
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,200
going to be the big important
part.

1415
01:21:38,300 --> 01:21:41,900
Now, the other thing I'll say is
the transfer portal ain't going

1416
01:21:41,900 --> 01:21:46,000
away.
Yeah.

1417
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,100
Tennessee as well but
Tennessee's wanted to touch his

1418
01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:53,100
us, tell you drove up from your
home's, an hour and a half.

1419
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:56,000
We took about six hours to get
to Bristol.

1420
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,700
You know how old half.
So, it's only about five hours,

1421
01:21:58,700 --> 01:22:01,800
right?
Yeah, five hours for to about

1422
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,600
five hours to get the Bristol.
I believe.

1423
01:22:04,900 --> 01:22:08,700
Yeah.
Now so that again they in

1424
01:22:08,700 --> 01:22:12,700
Chattanooga can drive up, we can
see the sun go back home without

1425
01:22:12,700 --> 01:22:15,100
much of a thing.
But the thing that Coach Price

1426
01:22:15,100 --> 01:22:21,400
said was talking about the he
was talking about Transfer

1427
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:23,100
portal and he said it straight
up to us.

1428
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,100
It's need and fit.
If you need an older guy in a

1429
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:31,400
room to discuss it, right?
You got to go on those to me

1430
01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,600
that's someone like pow because
at the defensive end room

1431
01:22:35,500 --> 01:22:38,600
defensive end room wise.
He's already played a Glide in

1432
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:42,200
the SEC right.
He's already probably got just

1433
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,300
as much experience as Nelson and
McRae.

1434
01:22:44,300 --> 01:22:48,700
Does he seem better?
Tackles than probably anybody on

1435
01:22:48,700 --> 01:22:50,100
our defensively.
Exactly.

1436
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:52,600
And that's nice.
Fit and then he talked about it

1437
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,400
the other way.
And I love him saying this when

1438
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,500
we miss on a guy, if we don't
hit on a guy, we think we're

1439
01:22:57,500 --> 01:23:00,600
going to develop this guy.
I love hearing him say that

1440
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:04,200
because he's basically saying
this is football, you're not

1441
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,600
going to hit on every player so
when you swing and Miss on

1442
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,900
players, you got to be willing
to go out there and find

1443
01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:12,800
somebody.
True, very true.

1444
01:23:13,100 --> 01:23:18,700
I got one more question on
recruiting, and this is like his

1445
01:23:18,700 --> 01:23:24,000
story in me is I'm asking you
all can print, pride, get his

1446
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:28,000
Cornell Brown And when I say
Cornell Brown, if you're a

1447
01:23:28,008 --> 01:23:30,600
hockey fan is old as we are.
You know who Cornell Brown is,

1448
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,800
but Cornell Brown was a win for
Frank Beamer 30-plus years ago

1449
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,300
because he was a number one
player in the state.

1450
01:23:36,700 --> 01:23:40,700
He was basically a top 50
recruit and when he chose

1451
01:23:40,700 --> 01:23:43,800
techie, chosen over UVA who
effectively was looked at as the

1452
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:47,100
power in Virginia that point I'm
amongst a bunch of other offers

1453
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:52,200
Can Brent pride, get that player
sooner or later?

1454
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,900
To Richmond or excuse me to
Virginia Tech.

1455
01:23:58,300 --> 01:24:01,400
Yeah, I mean I think that's I
think we're looking probably

1456
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,400
this cycle and next cycle is
going to be the most important

1457
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,400
in terms of Landing that type of
player.

1458
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,400
You know I don't think it's
going to be a number one in the

1459
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:15,700
state of Virginia Tech caliber
player but I think we can get a

1460
01:24:16,100 --> 01:24:23,800
top 250, top 200 player that is
whether it started out the gate

1461
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:25,900
or somebody that's contributing
very early.

1462
01:24:25,900 --> 01:24:29,900
But is setting the tone tone
from a culture perspective,

1463
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,800
right out the gate.
And we very May well have been

1464
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,900
talking to that player tonight.
You know what time will tell?

1465
01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:41,200
But I think I think that's that
that's what you're going to need

1466
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,600
and I think it's for me if it's
going to happen in these happen,

1467
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,100
either this cycle and that
cycle.

1468
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,800
Yeah.
And you know if you go back and

1469
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,900
listen to what Gabe said when he
was on, he said you know, these

1470
01:24:53,900 --> 01:24:58,000
coaches are giving you the
opportunity and giving you, you

1471
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,900
know, the position to come in
and play.

1472
01:25:00,100 --> 01:25:05,100
So opportunities there for a lot
of these recruits to come in and

1473
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:09,000
make that early impact in the be
that Cornell type of

1474
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:16,300
Trendsetter, you know, Elite, he
will recruit and come in and

1475
01:25:16,300 --> 01:25:21,500
play early and, you know, change
the culture of Virginia Tech to

1476
01:25:21,500 --> 01:25:25,600
be back to what it's supposed to
be there opening, the flood gate

1477
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,900
up and said, hey, this is yall's
team, you know, we just, we want

1478
01:25:28,900 --> 01:25:31,300
to know that you'll want to be a
part of it and that's what I

1479
01:25:31,308 --> 01:25:34,900
like, what game is done, you
know, he he's took on the road

1480
01:25:34,900 --> 01:25:38,000
to say, hey, I believe in this
place and I want to get some

1481
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:41,300
other people hear that.
Want to believe it until I don't

1482
01:25:41,300 --> 01:25:45,100
want to dig too far into what he
said, but it's on wax, you can

1483
01:25:45,100 --> 01:25:46,600
go back and listen to it
yourself.

1484
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,900
He said it's some other people
that's involved that we don't

1485
01:25:49,900 --> 01:25:53,400
know about yet, so we could have
been talking to him.

1486
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,100
We could be talking about it.
True.

1487
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,400
What you think?
Sheldon does he need it soon?

1488
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,300
Does he need that type of player
soon?

1489
01:26:03,300 --> 01:26:06,300
I mean soon.
Yeah maybe I mean it's hard to

1490
01:26:06,900 --> 01:26:09,800
it's hard to project coming off
you know a three-name season but

1491
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,100
I don't know.
I think it's it'll be the 2025

1492
01:26:15,500 --> 01:26:18,200
classified be more or - kind of
where we're headed.

1493
01:26:18,300 --> 01:26:20,200
I just think right now it's kind
of too early as far as like

1494
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:23,300
where we are as a program to
really be projecting too much in

1495
01:26:23,300 --> 01:26:26,500
the future but yeah I'd say so
is it sooner rather than later

1496
01:26:26,500 --> 01:26:28,400
for sure.
All right, good deal.

1497
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,500
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01:26:31,500 --> 01:26:35,300
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Now back to the episode Alright

1507
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,600
y'all.
So second half of here, we are

1508
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,600
going to be talking will let
Sheldon take over for a few

1509
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,700
minutes because Sheldon did some
deep deep digging on Player

1510
01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:10,600
Development and he's got a bunch
of stuff he wants to show us.

1511
01:27:10,608 --> 01:27:12,300
So she all the floors.
Yours sir.

1512
01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:15,300
Yeah.
So one of the things I've always

1513
01:27:15,300 --> 01:27:17,800
been interested in studying is
really what goes into Player

1514
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:19,800
Development.
It's something that's

1515
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,700
fascinating for a long time
because I feel like there's just

1516
01:27:21,700 --> 01:27:25,000
some little nuances that that go
into what make a team successful

1517
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:28,700
or unsuccessful.
And I think one thing that's

1518
01:27:28,700 --> 01:27:31,800
helpful to look at is just, you
know, what other programs are

1519
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,700
doing because you can't really,
you know, figure out what the

1520
01:27:35,700 --> 01:27:37,400
formula is.
If you don't really study like

1521
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:41,500
how other teams do it and what
what successful teams what

1522
01:27:41,500 --> 01:27:43,100
successful teams do, they get
part of ailment.

1523
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,800
So obviously, you know, I
started recruiting Because a lot

1524
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:48,800
but I also acknowledge that they
are imperfect.

1525
01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:51,700
And so I just wanted to figure
out really, what is sort of like

1526
01:27:51,700 --> 01:27:55,100
the secret sauce that makes a
program?

1527
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:59,100
When essentially, I think we
look at it seemed like Virginia

1528
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:00,600
Tech.
They're sort of like a

1529
01:28:01,300 --> 01:28:04,000
perception among tech fans that,
you know, back in the Glory Days

1530
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:07,100
of the Frank Beamer era check
was winning with these, you

1531
01:28:07,100 --> 01:28:09,800
know, three-star, recruit seized
under scouted guys, that were

1532
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:14,000
kind of like the, you know, Blue
Collar chip on your Older like

1533
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,800
Little Engine That Could but
really that's not until

1534
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,400
accurate.
Like we had tons of star players

1535
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,300
during the 2000s.
You look at you know, Marcus

1536
01:28:21,300 --> 01:28:25,100
Vick and Macho Harris and Xavier
adibi and David Wilson like

1537
01:28:25,100 --> 01:28:27,400
these were all players that were
really talented.

1538
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,800
Prospects that other powerful
programs wanted.

1539
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:33,200
So it wasn't just like we were
kind of you know The Little

1540
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,200
Engine That Could like we're
winning games because we had

1541
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,400
star players.
We had good players, we beat you

1542
01:28:37,407 --> 01:28:39,600
know we beat Alabama and
Tennessee because we had better

1543
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,200
players than made it so it's
always helpful to kind of, you

1544
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:45,300
know, keep in perspective.
Our development only gets you so

1545
01:28:45,300 --> 01:28:48,200
far and on a fundamental level,
you do have to get recruiting,

1546
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:49,900
right?
If you're not, if you're

1547
01:28:49,900 --> 01:28:52,600
creating is not the biggest
focus of your program, then you

1548
01:28:52,600 --> 01:28:55,500
are doing it wrong.
But with that being said, we can

1549
01:28:55,500 --> 01:28:59,100
also look a lot at there's
programs that do develop players

1550
01:28:59,100 --> 01:29:02,500
very well and Brandi can give
you the graphic up in a moment.

1551
01:29:03,900 --> 01:29:07,700
So you can see, I made a list
here, a top 10 player to jump

1552
01:29:07,700 --> 01:29:10,300
rooms using, the SP plus rating
should count for strength of

1553
01:29:10,300 --> 01:29:13,100
schedule and kind of translate
into the recruiting rankings.

1554
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:17,700
He's and in doing this, I wanted
to identify really free common

1555
01:29:17,700 --> 01:29:20,200
themes here, which I sort of
looked at that.

1556
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:23,000
These programs have the first is
coaching continuity.

1557
01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,200
So you look at it seemed like
Utah.

1558
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,500
How wedding has been there for
18 years Kirk rights?

1559
01:29:27,500 --> 01:29:31,400
Iowa has been there for 24 years
my kinda Oklahoma State, 18

1560
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,300
years.
The average coaching tuner for

1561
01:29:33,300 --> 01:29:38,400
these 10 programs is 10 years.
So why that matters?

1562
01:29:39,300 --> 01:29:42,200
You know, you look at a guy like
France at Iowa, he's been there

1563
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:43,800
so long.
He knows all the Coach in the

1564
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:47,500
state and he kinda has a good
feel for what players are fit

1565
01:29:47,500 --> 01:29:50,000
for playing in his program?
You know, he had a strength

1566
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:52,200
coach that is no longer there
but have been there for a while

1567
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,200
staying with Gummy at Oklahoma
State and gummy is even on

1568
01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,500
record saying that, you know,
consistency is the most

1569
01:29:57,500 --> 01:29:59,300
important thing establishing a
big-time college football

1570
01:29:59,300 --> 01:30:03,400
program and especially on the
staff to like, you know, you

1571
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:04,800
want your coordinators to be
there long time.

1572
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:06,700
That's a Clemson.
Did a good job of you want your

1573
01:30:06,700 --> 01:30:08,900
strength coach to be to be there
for a long time?

1574
01:30:08,900 --> 01:30:12,800
It's all about sort of
establishing continuity so that

1575
01:30:12,900 --> 01:30:15,500
crew It's see that and they kind
of know like okay this is the

1576
01:30:15,500 --> 01:30:17,200
Seth has been there for our.
They've been doing it for a long

1577
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:21,000
time that kind of helps sell you
sell players in the recruiting

1578
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,000
Trail.
So if anyone's interject after

1579
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,800
that, after that point you're
free to.

1580
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:27,400
Well, I think what that's also
what we saw as well, like you

1581
01:30:27,407 --> 01:30:30,600
said, we had star players but
for the longest time it was the

1582
01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:35,000
same staff here at tech for
years, it is very important

1583
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,700
because go back to the you said
you said it right off the

1584
01:30:38,700 --> 01:30:40,800
get-go.
Sheldon recruiting is important.

1585
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:43,400
But if you've got that coaching
continuity with the Head.

1586
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,800
Coaches, the saying guy, parts
of the staff are the same when

1587
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,500
they walk into that school.
Everyone knows them.

1588
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,900
The players are likely
comfortable because, yeah, you

1589
01:30:53,900 --> 01:30:57,100
know, take coach calf coach.
Kevin all had been walking down

1590
01:30:57,100 --> 01:31:01,200
into 75, 74 Years.
Everybody knew him.

1591
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,300
So it makes perfect sense.
Yeah, definitely.

1592
01:31:04,300 --> 01:31:08,200
You say coaching continuity is
the same as identity.

1593
01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:10,700
You know what I'm saying?
When you got the same coaches,

1594
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,000
you know, that team is going to
have a certain idea.

1595
01:31:13,100 --> 01:31:15,500
Entity, you know, they're going
to play a certain way.

1596
01:31:15,500 --> 01:31:19,000
You know, a coach is going to
just be a certain type of Coach

1597
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,000
whether it's the head coach, or
the position coach, and you

1598
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,200
don't have a lot of revolving
door type stuff.

1599
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,600
So that point is definitely a
big point.

1600
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:33,100
The coaching continuity because
like you said, when you are

1601
01:31:33,100 --> 01:31:37,900
going to recruit and it's the
same people year after year,

1602
01:31:38,700 --> 01:31:41,400
number 1, that means that
somebody's having some kind of

1603
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,000
success.
You're Getting fired.

1604
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,900
Yep.
They like where they are.

1605
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:51,200
So they're not leaving and
they're building relationships.

1606
01:31:52,500 --> 01:31:53,800
Well I hate to keep going back
to.

1607
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:58,200
It gave Williams told us when
coach Brooks got hired on to

1608
01:31:58,200 --> 01:32:01,100
this staff that was his first
offer.

1609
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:06,100
So it instantly jumped us up
because of a coach.

1610
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:10,400
So yeah that's definitely a big
Point.

1611
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:13,100
Yeah.
To piggyback off of that, when

1612
01:32:13,100 --> 01:32:14,800
we talk about you talk about
identity.

1613
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:19,700
I also think about coaches
having an innate ability of

1614
01:32:19,700 --> 01:32:22,200
getting certain players at
certain positions.

1615
01:32:22,300 --> 01:32:26,600
Ins in a spot where they can
make some big plays and get to

1616
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,300
the next level.
So, when we think about Virginia

1617
01:32:28,300 --> 01:32:32,400
Tech historically, we look at,
okay done really well with dual

1618
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,200
threat.
Quarterback sacks always had a

1619
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:39,100
solid solid running back core,
really good, linebackers Elite

1620
01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:42,000
defensive backs, right?
So you knew if you were coming

1621
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,400
to Virginia Tech, you do what
type of identity they had?

1622
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,300
And you knew what type of
players they historically could

1623
01:32:47,300 --> 01:32:51,100
get to the next level.
So when you have coaching

1624
01:32:51,100 --> 01:32:56,500
continuity, you That as a, it's
no longer a variable, it's a

1625
01:32:56,508 --> 01:32:58,800
constant, right?
So you know what you're getting

1626
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,300
in that perspective.
Definitely.

1627
01:33:01,300 --> 01:33:04,700
And that kind of leads into my
second key, which was having an

1628
01:33:04,700 --> 01:33:07,600
identity and recruiting.
So like I told you guys I'm here

1629
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:11,000
in Salt Lake City for the week.
I went up took a run by Utah.

1630
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:15,800
Standard a Utah is a very very
good program for a variety of

1631
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:17,500
reasons.
But one of which I think is very

1632
01:33:17,500 --> 01:33:20,600
important is the fact that they
have established and identity in

1633
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,500
recruiting.
So About in any given year about

1634
01:33:23,500 --> 01:33:26,200
one third of the roster is
composed of Polynesian players.

1635
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,000
And this is not a fact I knew
until researching, but Samoan

1636
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,800
players are 58 times more likely
to make the NFL than their

1637
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,500
American counterparts.
So because of that, you know,

1638
01:33:36,500 --> 01:33:38,800
history, that established there.
I've got a pipe on of this

1639
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:41,700
pollination kids that just come
up to the school and they

1640
01:33:41,700 --> 01:33:43,700
develop them and they and they
put them in a fellow.

1641
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,600
Make it also to take a team like
Wisconsin who historically has

1642
01:33:47,608 --> 01:33:50,500
been built on these you know big
beefy mean offensive lineman.

1643
01:33:50,500 --> 01:33:51,700
They're going to play Smash
Mouth football.

1644
01:33:51,700 --> 01:33:54,600
They're going to Run the ball
down your throats and the reason

1645
01:33:54,600 --> 01:33:57,300
they do that is because they
have to Wisconsin does not have

1646
01:33:57,300 --> 01:34:00,600
the access to skill talent to
play another brand of football

1647
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,400
because recruiting is mostly
defined by geography.

1648
01:34:03,700 --> 01:34:06,500
So they have established that
sort of niche of okay, we're

1649
01:34:06,500 --> 01:34:07,800
gonna have a big offensive
lineman.

1650
01:34:08,100 --> 01:34:10,200
We're going to play, you know,
Pro style and just try to run

1651
01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:11,700
the ball down your throats and
that's what they've done.

1652
01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:19,600
Big white office environment.
Well, and again, it goes back to

1653
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:21,200
what we just talked about here,
right?

1654
01:34:21,200 --> 01:34:23,200
Shelton.
We were talking about good

1655
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,700
running backs and you talked
about David Wilson, the line of

1656
01:34:26,700 --> 01:34:30,000
great running backs.
Go back to um go Kenny oxendine

1657
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:34,400
you go to Lee Suggs, you ghost
if you go KJ you go Ryan

1658
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,100
Williams Darren Evans.
It wasn't like 10.

1659
01:34:37,100 --> 01:34:40,100
I got this one.
Really good guy, a lot of those

1660
01:34:40,100 --> 01:34:43,900
guys were highly coveted.
It was that running back big

1661
01:34:43,900 --> 01:34:46,600
deep on the inside Ron, you
said, linebackers.

1662
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:51,000
And then the back in Setbacks.
So we knew our dead identity and

1663
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,700
now we've got coach Pride
effectively trying to start a

1664
01:34:54,700 --> 01:34:59,300
new identity for a new era and
now we have to see what that

1665
01:34:59,300 --> 01:35:03,200
vision is over the next little
while here in, can it come to

1666
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,200
fruition to what he wants it to
be?

1667
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:07,800
Because I think we're going to
talk about in a little while

1668
01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:14,700
here, something about the
defense because it's a certain

1669
01:35:14,700 --> 01:35:16,200
portion.
We're going to talk about a

1670
01:35:16,208 --> 01:35:19,600
little while here but go ahead.
Alton or branching, out Kalyan

1671
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:20,900
anything else to say on this
one?

1672
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:23,500
I'm good on that.
Y'all cover the good parts.

1673
01:35:23,500 --> 01:35:26,600
They're okay.
And so then I'll finish up here

1674
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:30,400
with the third key which is
establishing a culture now,

1675
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,500
culture is kind of, you know,
one of those Buzz words that

1676
01:35:32,500 --> 01:35:34,900
people kind of fur out, but it
really is a big deal.

1677
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,200
I think we talked about, you
know, Utah, they've got a great

1678
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,800
culture that get place to stay,
you know, they go on missionary

1679
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,100
trips for the LDS church for a
couple of years they come back,

1680
01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:44,700
they're 24, 25 years old.
So they're essentially, you

1681
01:35:44,708 --> 01:35:46,700
know, effectively like the six
year, senior playing college

1682
01:35:46,700 --> 01:35:49,400
football.
And then, you know, Wisconsin

1683
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:51,900
they've got the walk on program,
that's develop stars like, JJ

1684
01:35:51,900 --> 01:35:55,400
Watt kind of know where they are
and they recruit to that and

1685
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,200
then you click, it seemed like
Kansas state, who's also on this

1686
01:35:57,200 --> 01:36:00,500
list, you know, they hired a guy
and Chris climbing who came from

1687
01:36:00,500 --> 01:36:04,200
winning program at NDSU.
So, you know, he had, you know,

1688
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:06,600
five or six great years are
really learned how to win.

1689
01:36:06,700 --> 01:36:08,800
Learn how to be a head coach,
and you kind of take him from

1690
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:09,900
there.
He's also, I think a very good

1691
01:36:09,900 --> 01:36:12,800
cultural fit kind of similar to
Virginia Tech, you know, he's

1692
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,500
not a guy for the Limelight,
he's a he's a good fit, the kind

1693
01:36:15,500 --> 01:36:18,100
of state and they're not flashy
they just You know, develop

1694
01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:19,500
players and kind of get the job
done.

1695
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:23,200
So I think that third part of it
is really just you know culture

1696
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,200
establishing knowing who you are
and then recruiting to your

1697
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:31,700
identity.
All right, so if there is

1698
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:36,300
obviously the best player
development programs, who's the

1699
01:36:36,308 --> 01:36:39,400
worst?
Yes, we have that.

1700
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,300
We have that graphic as well.
It's, it's pretty ugly.

1701
01:36:50,800 --> 01:37:28,400
Can y'all hear me?
It doesn't mean they're

1702
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,400
automatically going to be good
like a four-star.

1703
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:32,400
Recruit Scott develop
themselves, you need coaching.

1704
01:37:32,700 --> 01:37:35,200
Coaching always matters.
It matters whether you're

1705
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,400
recruiting three stars, four,
stars or five stars, it always

1706
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:39,500
matters.
And I think, you know, I was

1707
01:37:39,500 --> 01:37:41,700
having a conversation the other
day and maybe you guys could

1708
01:37:41,700 --> 01:37:43,900
chime in, on this, with them a
person.

1709
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:46,600
Whose opinion, I highly respect.
I cannot reveal his name due to

1710
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:48,900
his is very high important job
status.

1711
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:53,700
But he said, he actually thinks
that the idea that Tech can out

1712
01:37:53,700 --> 01:37:56,600
developed player.
Out develop teams is kind of a

1713
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,600
misnomer.
That they just have to out

1714
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,200
recruit them, you know, we talk
about all the talent they got

1715
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,300
during the beaver days, you
know, you look at a program,

1716
01:38:03,300 --> 01:38:07,600
like, Georgia, Georgia won two
national championships with a

1717
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,300
former walk-on quarterback who's
now going to the NFL.

1718
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:13,000
So, if that's not an elite
Player Development, then I don't

1719
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:16,000
know what is, I think, as much
as we emphasize how much it

1720
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:16,900
matters.
We have, that was.

1721
01:38:16,900 --> 01:38:20,000
So, we also understand that
there is sort of a limit to how

1722
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,000
much you can develop players.
And at the end of the day, it

1723
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,200
does come down to recruiting
studs.

1724
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:26,700
Like, there's just no getting
around that.

1725
01:38:26,700 --> 01:38:29,500
You got to recruit good.
There's got good work ethics and

1726
01:38:29,500 --> 01:38:32,700
just want to get better and on a
fundamental level, you know,

1727
01:38:32,700 --> 01:38:35,100
regardless of, you know, all the
other factors that go into it.

1728
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:37,600
That's just what it boils down
to is recruiting players that

1729
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,200
fit your school, your system and
your identity.

1730
01:38:40,700 --> 01:38:43,200
It's really silly to think about
it, but we're talking about the

1731
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:48,200
85 87 88.
Put the, it's easier to take an

1732
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:52,500
87 in to make it a better
player, than 84 or an 83.

1733
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:57,400
Because if I'm not, and I know
I'm talking numbers here, but

1734
01:38:57,500 --> 01:39:01,700
but if they're here on a scale,
then there is a chance to take a

1735
01:39:01,708 --> 01:39:04,900
step up, right?
It's like they're out there a

1736
01:39:04,900 --> 01:39:07,200
high 3-star.
Can we develop that to make him

1737
01:39:07,200 --> 01:39:11,000
play like a high for star?
There is that possibility?

1738
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:14,400
It's a lot easier to take that
to go to here to take cam.

1739
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:16,400
Chancellor's are a dime a dozen,
right?

1740
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,200
Yes.
They just are low.

1741
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:21,200
Two stars that literally become
5 Stars.

1742
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:25,700
So again you make the great
point, the better we recruit the

1743
01:39:25,700 --> 01:39:28,500
more chances in this the easier
developing.

1744
01:39:29,700 --> 01:39:31,800
Yeah.
Go ahead John, I'll let you

1745
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:32,900
finish.
Okay.

1746
01:39:32,900 --> 01:39:33,600
Yes.
Just cook.

1747
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,600
I mean you take a guy like Caleb
Fairley.

1748
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:37,700
Like he was a high three star.
Yeah.

1749
01:39:37,700 --> 01:39:40,600
But I think he was a four-star
in the 24/7 rankings.

1750
01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:43,300
Like if you ask people in the
tech program, like they all knew

1751
01:39:43,300 --> 01:39:46,200
he was an absolute stud.
So there's always going to be,

1752
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,300
you know, some degree of like,
you know, can we get the guys

1753
01:39:48,300 --> 01:39:51,900
that maybe we think our little
bit, you know, overlooked but to

1754
01:39:51,900 --> 01:39:55,700
your point Curtis just take out
on a one out of ten scale.

1755
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:59,600
If you recruit at a as a level 7
out of 10, it is significantly

1756
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,300
easier to be a 9 out of 10
program that it is if your

1757
01:40:02,300 --> 01:40:04,700
create a level 5 out of 10.
Okay, I'm all about.

1758
01:40:04,700 --> 01:40:06,600
It's all about degrees and
relativity.

1759
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:12,400
Yeah you're not going to get,
you know, 12, or 13, high

1760
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,500
ceiling, guys, that are in 84 in
every class.

1761
01:40:15,500 --> 01:40:19,600
Like, at some point, you got to
start recruiting guys that are a

1762
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,500
little bit more.
Ready to play, right?

1763
01:40:21,700 --> 01:40:23,400
Yeah.
Everybody can't be a project.

1764
01:40:23,500 --> 01:40:26,900
Yeah.
Hey, are you coming to come into

1765
01:40:26,900 --> 01:40:28,500
play?
You can't have what you can't

1766
01:40:28,500 --> 01:40:30,300
have a class full of projects
that have.

1767
01:40:30,900 --> 01:40:37,300
You got to have a game-changing
player in every class, A couple

1768
01:40:37,300 --> 01:40:39,400
of them really to be, you know,
too.

1769
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:43,300
Get back then I ain't saying
like they have to be a five star

1770
01:40:43,300 --> 01:40:47,200
player, but you have to have
somebody who's ready to step in

1771
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,700
and play.
Yeah, you can't, you can't be

1772
01:40:50,700 --> 01:40:55,600
averaging at or under an 86 for
your class class, average, every

1773
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,500
year, right?
So and that's kind of weird.

1774
01:40:58,500 --> 01:41:02,200
Virginia Tech has lived up
until, you know, hopefully this,

1775
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:06,900
this, this cycle here, you know,
since kind of what 2019 2018.

1776
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:12,600
And you can't live like that,
but you look at it this list,

1777
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:16,100
I'm Thomas mentioned it in the
comment there.

1778
01:41:16,100 --> 01:41:22,200
I'm shocked not to see a UNC or
a Texas A&M on this on this

1779
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,300
list.
Yeah.

1780
01:41:24,300 --> 01:41:27,500
So UNC is I haven't talking to
them a ton.

1781
01:41:27,500 --> 01:41:31,600
They probably recruit around
like a top 15, 20 ish level and

1782
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:34,300
they're probably more like a you
know top 35-ish program I think

1783
01:41:34,300 --> 01:41:37,700
people over State you know how
bad how bad it is.

1784
01:41:37,700 --> 01:41:38,600
Like they did.
They did.

1785
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,300
The orange ball in 2020.
You know, they went and they

1786
01:41:41,300 --> 01:41:43,100
went 95 laughs.
You're like, yes it's they're

1787
01:41:43,100 --> 01:41:45,300
not getting as much out of their
talent but it's not like, you

1788
01:41:45,300 --> 01:41:49,100
know, they're not a Trainwreck
essentially by contrast, you

1789
01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:52,100
know you look at a team like
let's just say Florida State

1790
01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:55,000
like if they were an absolute
tire fire under really tagger

1791
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:57,800
and obviously Mike Norvell had
to take a couple years to build

1792
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:00,200
up that offensive line.
Like that's, that's a much much

1793
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:01,600
more dire situation.
So, yeah.

1794
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:03,600
Obviously there's always, you
know, degrees to it.

1795
01:42:03,900 --> 01:42:06,800
All right.
So you've got all here, the best

1796
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,100
coaches.
So I want to hear What you got

1797
01:42:09,100 --> 01:42:12,800
to say about what what are the
best coaches as part of that?

1798
01:42:14,100 --> 01:42:16,400
Yeah, I don't so I don't have to
go for it, but I had to put up

1799
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:20,000
on my computer.
So Troy Calhoun, it Air Force,

1800
01:42:20,300 --> 01:42:24,700
Hugh, freeze Ken niumatalolo a
lots of service category

1801
01:42:24,700 --> 01:42:27,700
presentation on this list.
Oh yeah, Josh heupel, Tennessee

1802
01:42:28,100 --> 01:42:31,100
shot clock at appstate, Jeff
Monken at army, Frank Soldier,

1803
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:33,800
Ohio, Scott Satterfield person
called Wedding and him.

1804
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:37,300
So obviously, the one name that
might stick out, there is Josh

1805
01:42:37,300 --> 01:42:40,500
heupel, obviously he, you know,
he did a great job with him

1806
01:42:40,500 --> 01:42:42,700
hooker, a Tennessee that team
last year, they actually

1807
01:42:42,700 --> 01:42:44,800
weren't.
I They were 21st and composite

1808
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,900
Talent.
They finished, you know, top 61

1809
01:42:47,500 --> 01:42:51,400
the orange ball against Clemson.
I think he is a really really

1810
01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:52,900
good offensive coach.
Like people did not give him

1811
01:42:52,900 --> 01:42:56,700
enough credit for the, for the
job he did for the job.

1812
01:42:56,708 --> 01:42:58,400
He did UCF.
I know that obviously, tech

1813
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:00,700
fans, you know, feel very agreed
with the way that things ended

1814
01:43:00,700 --> 01:43:02,700
with the theater staff and
hooker.

1815
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:06,100
But I also think that, you know,
at some point we just to give

1816
01:43:06,100 --> 01:43:09,600
credits hyphal because he is
just a genius offensively like

1817
01:43:10,100 --> 01:43:12,400
hooker really Thrive his system.
I don't think he would have

1818
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:15,300
thrived a lot of it.
That all things might be a cheat

1819
01:43:15,300 --> 01:43:18,600
code.
Yeah, why won't be interested to

1820
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:20,100
see what Tennessee does this
year?

1821
01:43:20,500 --> 01:43:23,000
With what?
Joe Joe building at the Hume?

1822
01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:29,200
I'm a big hinden guy.
So I want to see what they

1823
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:33,400
produce, the same type of
offense, this next year as they

1824
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:36,400
did last year, not saying, the
hype was not a good coach

1825
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:40,800
because he is, but I don't think
they replicate that success this

1826
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:42,700
year.
That's just me, though.

1827
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:44,600
Yeah.
Milton's issue was always

1828
01:43:44,600 --> 01:43:47,600
concerned consistency, he was
very inconsistent in the starts

1829
01:43:47,600 --> 01:43:51,200
that he had before him and took
over, and he had some up and

1830
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:55,300
down, starts last year, after
hitting got injured so well, I

1831
01:43:55,308 --> 01:43:57,900
mean, even they got, they got
the quarterback in the, in the,

1832
01:43:57,900 --> 01:44:01,300
in the him as well, right?
The kid, they paid all the money

1833
01:44:01,300 --> 01:44:07,000
to Niko Niko something, right?
I think you're right here.

1834
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:09,400
Yes, I saw it back they got
again.

1835
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,100
I mean they've recruited very
well.

1836
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:16,000
They have the pieces to be Top
10 team.

1837
01:44:16,700 --> 01:44:20,400
I just don't, you know, I've
been around this area for a long

1838
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:25,500
time, so I'm not sold on the on
the tendency is back thing yet.

1839
01:44:25,500 --> 01:44:29,400
But if they are, I got to give
hypo his his credit because

1840
01:44:29,700 --> 01:44:32,100
they've been they've been
working at it for a long time.

1841
01:44:32,300 --> 01:44:35,700
They had that Alabama curse on
him for a long time, man, 15

1842
01:44:35,700 --> 01:44:37,300
years.
It was what to me is what

1843
01:44:37,300 --> 01:44:40,100
happens when you assure out a
guy that won a national

1844
01:44:40,100 --> 01:44:43,100
championship or two Bad seasons.
Well, not anymore.

1845
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:15,300
Happen for a little while.
Really, like you said, there's a

1846
01:45:15,308 --> 01:45:18,900
balance there, there's a
balance, you have to develop

1847
01:45:18,900 --> 01:45:22,900
with where Tech needs to be
100%, but you keep saying that

1848
01:45:22,900 --> 01:45:25,500
you keep saying like you've got
to have developmental, but

1849
01:45:25,500 --> 01:45:29,100
you've got to have guys that can
come just play like that need

1850
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:33,300
minimal development, you know,
to get to back where you need to

1851
01:45:33,300 --> 01:45:35,800
be in and that's what it's going
to take.

1852
01:45:35,800 --> 01:45:38,800
It's going to take good
recruiting classes and I'm not

1853
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,600
saying time valuations.
Now, by all means if gave is

1854
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,200
saying we go to get a top 15
recruiting class and we get a

1855
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:48,300
top team, 15 recruiting class.
I'll be dancing over here.

1856
01:45:48,300 --> 01:45:50,000
Come December.
Trust me.

1857
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,200
Y'all want to talk about an
episode regardless?

1858
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:56,300
What happens in the season if we
if there is a teen number next

1859
01:45:56,300 --> 01:45:59,400
to us during the close our show
with Jeremy?

1860
01:46:02,100 --> 01:46:05,100
I don't know if I'll go fifth
Evan Williams, but I'm going to

1861
01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:07,800
get fit, come on, man.
You could, we get if we get a

1862
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,100
team recruiting class, I'm
coming to Virginia and we

1863
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:14,500
recording, I'm recording live.
It one of y'all's house.

1864
01:46:15,300 --> 01:46:18,000
I'm telling you right now.
It might be that might be meet

1865
01:46:18,100 --> 01:46:21,100
me at Shelton's house on this
couch, but I'm coming to.

1866
01:46:21,100 --> 01:46:34,200
Somebody's house is sort of the
tally foot is only at the swag

1867
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:37,300
or the drip factor in Tally.
What were the three that you

1868
01:46:37,300 --> 01:46:39,500
feel like are the winds right
now for us?

1869
01:46:41,300 --> 01:46:45,800
You know the Players Lounge.
That's that's that's a that's

1870
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:51,900
good performance and Nutrition
Center and then the progress on

1871
01:46:51,900 --> 01:46:55,800
the athletic Village, all of
that stuff is is wins.

1872
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:59,700
You know what I'm saying?
But we've got, we got some other

1873
01:46:59,700 --> 01:47:05,400
stuff going to as far as like,
Some of it needs some work which

1874
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:07,700
I know we're going to get to but
it's getting better.

1875
01:47:08,300 --> 01:47:12,300
So, what?
We'll get to the stuff that

1876
01:47:12,300 --> 01:47:15,800
needs work, but the Players
Lounge and and all of the things

1877
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,800
that they've renovated is
definitely good because you see

1878
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:23,000
the pictures of, you know, like
everybody's taking pictures in

1879
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:24,100
the Players Lounge.
Yes.

1880
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,600
You know, and I think we were
taking pictures in a fucking

1881
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:33,300
basement for like seven years,
it looked like Dungeons and

1882
01:47:33,300 --> 01:47:36,400
Dragons.
It's like what was going on.

1883
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:39,700
So now we taking pictures.
We got fucking lights, warts,

1884
01:47:39,700 --> 01:47:43,900
and all types of shit.
But anyway, I'm gonna let

1885
01:47:43,900 --> 01:47:48,100
somebody else jump in.
Well, I sit and think about just

1886
01:47:48,100 --> 01:47:51,900
the nutrition center where, you
know, they have a place to go

1887
01:47:51,900 --> 01:47:53,600
right?
Right after they're done.

1888
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:55,500
That's a huge.
When you're off the field.

1889
01:47:55,500 --> 01:47:56,900
You're right there.
You don't have to do anything

1890
01:47:56,900 --> 01:48:00,500
else.
It's all catered to you in the

1891
01:48:00,500 --> 01:48:02,000
way.
Merriman's getting built up with

1892
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:03,800
some of that stuff going on with
those.

1893
01:48:04,900 --> 01:48:09,400
And again, is that what's going
to absolutely sway, a player,

1894
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:13,700
maybe not, but it's that thing
is that it's like the first

1895
01:48:13,700 --> 01:48:17,200
visit, right?
It's like the first visit first

1896
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:20,100
time you go into a restaurant
and things, look, shitty.

1897
01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:23,800
Do you come back?
I don't even care if the food

1898
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:26,100
was good, food was good, but I'm
looking around and come back to

1899
01:48:26,108 --> 01:48:29,100
this place again.
But if the atmosphere is good, I

1900
01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:31,100
mean, I like the way this, look
the food to I'm coming back for

1901
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:35,100
the second visit, it may not be
what ends them completely, but

1902
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:37,000
it probably gets them back in
the door two or three more

1903
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:41,300
times.
Yeah, I really can't started to

1904
01:48:41,300 --> 01:48:42,700
rub.
I really can't overstate how

1905
01:48:42,700 --> 01:48:44,500
important the a nutritionist
areas in particular.

1906
01:48:44,500 --> 01:48:48,400
Like I've I've talked to on
multiple coaches at BT and

1907
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:50,200
different sports.
That have cited at the nutrition

1908
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:51,900
center is being like a big part
of it.

1909
01:48:52,500 --> 01:48:55,200
I know this is a somewhat
well-documented, but like,

1910
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,400
before that was built, we had
guys eating, you know, catering

1911
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:01,200
like Dominos, pizza and Jimmy,
John's Subs, after practice.

1912
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:04,200
Like, that's that's that is what
good?

1913
01:49:09,100 --> 01:49:11,600
The north to build your body.
So that having that there is

1914
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,300
huge, like, that's a huge part
of text facilities upgrades.

1915
01:49:15,100 --> 01:49:16,800
Yeah, I feel like we were like
rested on that.

1916
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,600
Okay.
We'll Regina you take dining

1917
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:20,900
facilities are like number one
or number two in the country.

1918
01:49:20,900 --> 01:49:23,500
Yeah, but if they're not even
the right stuff, that's not

1919
01:49:23,500 --> 01:49:26,400
getting any better on the field.
Well, Focus getting fat.

1920
01:49:26,900 --> 01:49:28,900
Not muscular Jimmy Jimmy
Johnson's.

1921
01:49:28,900 --> 01:49:33,500
Not getting you to get off the
edge against the alignment.

1922
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:32,800
Your locker rooms like you home,
man.

1923
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:36,000
Like you spent a lot of time in
your locker, you know, and you

1924
01:50:36,008 --> 01:50:39,800
see people like LSU that has a
comfortable place for the

1925
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:43,100
players thats it, so they can
take a nap.

1926
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,900
It's a big deal man.
It's a big deal of dealing now

1927
01:50:46,900 --> 01:50:50,100
with how social media Works
which is another thing that's on

1928
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:52,700
the needs.
Work with high social media

1929
01:50:52,700 --> 01:50:56,800
works, you get your players and
you get your recruits to do

1930
01:50:57,100 --> 01:50:59,800
marketing for you.
Marketing is a big thing.

1931
01:50:59,900 --> 01:51:05,300
Thing for sales period.
Like hate this, put recruiting

1932
01:51:05,300 --> 01:51:07,000
with sales but that's what it
is.

1933
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,700
So when somebody has this
fucking thing right here and

1934
01:51:10,700 --> 01:51:13,200
they're able to pop it out that
they're paying God knows how

1935
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:17,700
much of a month for pop it out
and take some cool videos, cool

1936
01:51:17,700 --> 01:51:21,400
pictures and say, hey, I'm over
here at Virginia Tech and then

1937
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:24,100
they got that name up there in
lights, blah, blah, blah, blah,

1938
01:51:24,100 --> 01:51:26,600
blah, blah, that's cool.
You know, we've been lacking

1939
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:32,000
that we've had, I think one time
they show, Our locker rooms and

1940
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:39,100
it looked like fucking it looked
like a clan fucking cross.

1941
01:51:40,300 --> 01:51:43,300
I said, what the hell kind of
what is that?

1942
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:45,500
You don't like our lockers is
pitiful, man.

1943
01:51:45,500 --> 01:51:49,500
So the locker rooms updated
definitely that's good.

1944
01:51:49,500 --> 01:51:52,800
That's coming.
The social media has been doing

1945
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:59,800
better the general has.
Yeah yeah and then that comes

1946
01:51:59,900 --> 01:52:02,800
Along with the coaches giving
access and things like that.

1947
01:52:02,900 --> 01:52:06,000
So that's been better.
And then the last one fucking

1948
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:10,400
uniforms man.
Like I don't even think that

1949
01:52:10,400 --> 01:52:15,800
I'll I do think that I uniforms
a bad a little bit, but I think

1950
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:20,000
we have better combinations that
we don't use.

1951
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:23,000
That's my problem.
I think some of the combinations

1952
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:31,600
we have slick, he like, even
when like All of these kids have

1953
01:52:31,600 --> 01:52:34,700
been coming in in the recruits
and stuff, go look at what

1954
01:52:34,700 --> 01:52:36,500
they're wearing, you know what
I'm saying?

1955
01:52:36,700 --> 01:52:39,400
Like it ain't me.
I mean, it is me.

1956
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:42,200
That's what I want, but you see
what someone someone's got.

1957
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,400
The all-white song.
Something all whites is

1958
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:47,400
definitely a big, the white
helmets, different things like

1959
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:49,600
that.
You see the guys wearing orange

1960
01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:53,000
a whole Keystone sleeves.
Like, yeah, we haven't thought

1961
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:54,700
about any of this shit.
You know what I'm saying?

1962
01:52:54,700 --> 01:52:59,300
Because I think we just had
people with the mindset of They

1963
01:52:59,300 --> 01:53:03,300
want to be a traditional school,
but to be traditional, you have

1964
01:53:03,300 --> 01:53:06,200
to have traditional wins, you
have to have a winning

1965
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:09,800
tradition, we just don't have
that, you know what I'm saying?

1966
01:53:10,100 --> 01:53:13,100
You got to find other ways to be
successful.

1967
01:53:13,100 --> 01:53:16,000
So those uniforms are a big part
of it, you know?

1968
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,400
Like again, none of that stuff
matters.

1969
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:20,800
If you go out and you three and
eight you have to year after

1970
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:24,200
year, but it plays a part in
getting people to come?

1971
01:53:24,700 --> 01:53:27,700
Well, I think to your point it's
like I do like the traditional

1972
01:53:27,700 --> 01:53:30,200
uniforms out the white It is
when they hit the white.

1973
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:33,700
Perfect is tight.
I mean, it's a Sleek.

1974
01:53:33,700 --> 01:53:38,200
Look, I still love all the Rune.
You can't roll out all the time,

1975
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:41,700
but to your point, the Orange is
a couple years low looked great.

1976
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,100
Great.
And still someone?

1977
01:53:44,100 --> 01:53:48,100
Tell me in this crew here.
Why haven't we won?

1978
01:53:48,100 --> 01:53:52,600
Blackmore, I know the Boise
State game was ass and it sucked

1979
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,500
at the end.
But those uniforms go back.

1980
01:53:55,500 --> 01:53:57,800
That was 2010.
That's 12 13 years ago now.

1981
01:53:57,800 --> 01:54:01,000
Yeah, those Uniformed, you could
bring to today and they'd still

1982
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:03,600
be tight.
They still have the uniforms on

1983
01:54:04,700 --> 01:54:05,900
the uniforms.
Do we work?

1984
01:54:05,900 --> 01:54:09,800
What Frank's last game and Lane
the black with the orange

1985
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:12,700
orange?
Like those was nice uniforms,

1986
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:14,500
you know, it's just a variation
man.

1987
01:54:14,500 --> 01:54:17,200
And sometimes people need to see
that.

1988
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:19,800
I think we need a fashion
designer on the team.

1989
01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:22,800
They can be me.
I ate.

1990
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:25,400
Maybe they can pay me. 70 grand,
I do it.

1991
01:54:25,900 --> 01:54:28,100
I have us looking real.
Like, they'll let me go.

1992
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:31,700
Okay, what about Sheldon?
Brian y'all, y'all agree,

1993
01:54:31,700 --> 01:54:33,400
anything else?
You'll feel like needs work?

1994
01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:35,000
Maybe doesn't need work or
winning.

1995
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:39,600
I mean the uniforms to me, have
become stale.

1996
01:54:41,500 --> 01:54:44,500
I like so I'm a fan of the 99
Throwbacks.

1997
01:54:44,500 --> 01:54:47,600
I think that's something that we
should do every now and again.

1998
01:54:47,900 --> 01:54:51,700
Hmm.
But I think We need to, we need

1999
01:54:51,700 --> 01:54:54,500
something fresh.
Whether it's something kind of

2000
01:54:54,500 --> 01:54:56,300
super clean.
That's kind of been the trend

2001
01:54:56,300 --> 01:55:02,500
lately or whether it's something
more of a throwback to some of

2002
01:55:02,500 --> 01:55:06,900
the uniforms we worn in the
past, just kind of, you know,

2003
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:09,600
brought into a little more
modern look now.

2004
01:55:10,500 --> 01:55:14,400
But we need to get a out with
the stupid straight behind the

2005
01:55:14,407 --> 01:55:17,000
nameplate.
Whatever the hell that trailing

2006
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:20,200
stripe is that that shit is
goofy looking from behind.

2007
01:55:20,700 --> 01:55:23,100
It looks a little better on the
orange because it Blends in.

2008
01:55:23,100 --> 01:55:27,800
But on the maroon it sticks out
like a sore thumb, same with the

2009
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,200
white.
So I'm not a big fan of that.

2010
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:35,500
I know it's like kind of a nod
to this side that but it doesn't

2011
01:55:35,500 --> 01:55:37,500
look good.
I'm not a big fan of stripes in

2012
01:55:37,500 --> 01:55:41,300
general, unless they're likes,
tight, Pinstripes, or on the

2013
01:55:41,300 --> 01:55:46,100
cuff of the of a sleeve, get the
shoulder straps away, get the

2014
01:55:46,100 --> 01:55:50,500
deck Stripes away, give me
something clean and fresh.

2015
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:53,800
Good.
Yeah, uniforms could definitely

2016
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:56,700
use a little tweak.
I will also say with regards to

2017
01:55:56,700 --> 01:56:00,900
facilities, they probably don't
matter as much in the in the

2018
01:56:00,900 --> 01:56:04,000
days of like the NIU because
cars are getting paid, but you,

2019
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:06,700
you do need to have good
facilities to win at a top-25

2020
01:56:06,700 --> 01:56:09,100
level.
Like they're, you know, that's

2021
01:56:09,100 --> 01:56:11,400
that's kind of like a sort of
rite of passage for every human

2022
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:14,500
wants to be successful in
football to show two recruits

2023
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:16,100
and to fans and everything that
you're committed to winning

2024
01:56:16,100 --> 01:56:18,000
football.
I think what s done, upgrading

2025
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,200
the facilities are last couple
years have been fantastic with.

2026
01:56:20,500 --> 01:56:22,100
The players are players
l'orange.

2027
01:56:22,300 --> 01:56:24,900
And just, you know, everything
else will I G and everything.

2028
01:56:24,900 --> 01:56:26,000
Like that's been really, really
good.

2029
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:27,500
I think you're going to see
hopefully that they often

2030
01:56:27,500 --> 01:56:30,100
recruiting pretty soon.
All right, Brian.

2031
01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:32,600
Let's pitch it to you because
the next one was kind of your

2032
01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:36,200
big hot button topic and white.
Why you feel like this is

2033
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:39,500
important man.
Yeah, we're going to talk a

2034
01:56:39,508 --> 01:56:44,500
little bit about NFL success and
that's, that's been a big thing

2035
01:56:44,500 --> 01:56:45,600
for me.
I know I talked about a little

2036
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:48,100
bit earlier when I was talking
about, kind of that culture in

2037
01:56:48,100 --> 01:56:53,300
that identity, when we think
about Virginia Tech, we think

2038
01:56:53,300 --> 01:56:57,800
about again dual-threat,
quarterback sacks that have a

2039
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:01,000
shot at making the league or get
drafted into the league.

2040
01:57:01,000 --> 01:57:05,600
We think about running backs
that have some success in the

2041
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:08,300
NFL.
We think about linebackers Hers.

2042
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:13,600
And obviously we think about BB
you but I'm going to

2043
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:18,000
specifically point out the
offensive player success in the

2044
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:21,800
NFL because I feel like in the
last 10 12 years that's where we

2045
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:24,100
really fallen off a map.
I think we still had some

2046
01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:27,200
success.
Getting those players to the NFL

2047
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:30,300
on the defensive side of the
ball, we've really fallen off a

2048
01:57:30,300 --> 01:57:34,600
map on the offensive side of the
ball, your takeaway Khalil

2049
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:36,400
Herbert.
We haven't had a running back,

2050
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:40,800
go to the NFL since David
Wilson, you know, we look at

2051
01:57:41,000 --> 01:57:44,100
outside of offensive line.
We haven't really had high draft

2052
01:57:44,100 --> 01:57:48,800
picks coming from that side of
the ball in the last decade.

2053
01:57:49,000 --> 01:57:53,900
So that's where we need to start
seeing some traction if we're

2054
01:57:53,900 --> 01:57:57,000
going to, I think take the next
step because if you're not

2055
01:57:57,000 --> 01:58:01,700
putting players into the NFL at
skill positions on offense, it's

2056
01:58:01,700 --> 01:58:04,000
really hard to attract them to
play for your program.

2057
01:58:05,300 --> 01:58:07,900
It's true man.
And that's where it leads and

2058
01:58:07,900 --> 01:58:10,600
you say the offensive players
because we can all look and see

2059
01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:13,500
for ourselves defensively.
We've been putting guys, first

2060
01:58:13,500 --> 01:58:15,500
film things.
First, two day, picks

2061
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:19,100
consistently, the last decade,
and it is going to take an

2062
01:58:19,100 --> 01:58:22,500
offensive play.
Do we, do we ever get one that

2063
01:58:22,500 --> 01:58:26,700
clicks engine starts bringing
that reputation back.

2064
01:58:27,900 --> 01:58:29,400
But something else, you
mentioned Brian.

2065
01:58:29,700 --> 01:58:32,700
And what I love tonight.
Gabe's interview, who do you

2066
01:58:32,700 --> 01:58:36,100
say?
He talked to Tremaine Tremaine.

2067
01:58:36,500 --> 01:58:41,400
Oh yeah, it is a, that means.
Yeah, that's unbelievable.

2068
01:58:41,700 --> 01:58:45,400
And it's not only having players
talk to them about who we are

2069
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:52,800
but then bringing them back.
Yeah, and that's how you build a

2070
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:54,300
culture man.
You know what I'm saying?

2071
01:58:54,300 --> 01:58:57,700
It was like for so long, we
heard so many players and so

2072
01:58:57,700 --> 01:59:01,400
many, you know, former players
talk about, you know, we haven't

2073
01:59:01,400 --> 01:59:04,000
been welcome back or there's no
open door policy.

2074
01:59:04,500 --> 01:59:07,100
Or we can't get tickets.
And we can't do this.

2075
01:59:07,100 --> 01:59:10,100
We can't like, you're not
hearing that right now.

2076
01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:12,100
Do you know what I'm saying?
You're not hearing that.

2077
01:59:12,100 --> 01:59:14,700
It seems like everybody even
though we had a rough season

2078
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:19,000
seems like everybody's still
behind prior all last year.

2079
01:59:19,000 --> 01:59:21,700
You know, we talked to the
white, we talked to Lauren

2080
01:59:21,700 --> 01:59:26,700
Johnson, which sent his kid or
you know I ain't no place in.

2081
01:59:26,700 --> 01:59:30,000
This kid is kid made his own
choice Braylon Johnson to go to

2082
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:34,000
Virginia Tech but he, yeah, he
blessed he blessed it, you know.

2083
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,800
And he Said, hey, I think these
guys are going in the right

2084
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:39,700
direction.
So you've got former players.

2085
01:59:39,700 --> 01:59:43,300
The saying, hey, we got this
thing, going back in the right

2086
01:59:43,300 --> 01:59:45,400
direction.
We just gotta give it a little

2087
01:59:45,400 --> 01:59:46,500
bit of time, and we're going to
be.

2088
01:59:46,500 --> 01:59:56,600
All right, so Virginia Tech has
always had that that DBU Mantra

2089
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:59,800
on it, you know, whatever people
are going to argue, whatever,

2090
02:00:00,100 --> 02:00:03,300
but should be LS, your should be
this, but I will say I'm a

2091
02:00:03,308 --> 02:00:06,300
Titans fan.
And I was not excited about

2092
02:00:06,300 --> 02:00:10,900
Caleb Farley getting drafted to
the Titans just because I knew

2093
02:00:10,900 --> 02:00:13,900
his injury history.
But if he was at any other

2094
02:00:13,900 --> 02:00:16,600
school besides Virginia Tech, he
would have got drafted that

2095
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:18,300
high.
That's just my opinion.

2096
02:00:18,900 --> 02:00:22,200
I think the reputation of
Virginia Tech developing

2097
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:26,100
cornerbacks as well as what he
did on the field.

2098
02:00:26,100 --> 02:00:29,700
When he did play played a part
in him, get drafted that her, he

2099
02:00:29,700 --> 02:00:33,000
would have been at a school.
Like I just say, man, I don't

2100
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:35,200
know maybe Marilyn, North
Carolina.

2101
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:38,000
I don't think he gets drafted.
I don't think he gets drafted

2102
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:42,000
that.
So we got to dig back into that

2103
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:46,000
to, you know, like I know that's
not on there when we talk about

2104
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:48,400
offensive success.
I mean, when we talk about NFL

2105
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:51,100
success, you're talkin my
offense but we do got to dig

2106
02:00:51,100 --> 02:00:55,000
back into that and then maybe
some of those players when we

2107
02:00:55,000 --> 02:01:01,400
get those I don't top 20
defensive again, top 15

2108
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:07,000
defensive defenses, the offense,
has some players that flash and

2109
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:11,700
then, you know shit, we put some
players in the lead because I

2110
02:01:11,700 --> 02:01:16,000
know most Virginia Tech fans did
not think that we wouldn't see

2111
02:01:17,900 --> 02:01:21,100
Jerrod Evans in the league like
watching him play that one

2112
02:01:21,100 --> 02:01:25,800
season is like yeah he's going
somewhere you know, everybody

2113
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:29,100
thought that but it's partly
because of The defense, put them

2114
02:01:29,100 --> 02:01:32,400
in positions as well.
So, it's got to be an overall

2115
02:01:32,400 --> 02:01:36,200
effort.
They still gonna play

2116
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:40,400
complimentary football and that
that goes back to having skill

2117
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:45,200
on both sides of the ball.
There's one last piece I want to

2118
02:01:45,208 --> 02:01:48,600
talk about it and I kind of made
this my little baby as we were

2119
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:51,800
putting this together last few
weeks and that's reputation.

2120
02:01:52,700 --> 02:01:57,900
And, you know, the first thing I
say is Blaine's always going to

2121
02:01:57,907 --> 02:02:00,800
be like Loud.
It always is, it doesn't matter,

2122
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:05,300
but I want it to be scary again
for again, for our Heyday.

2123
02:02:05,300 --> 02:02:13,000
Brian tally, it was scared
teams, did not want to freaking

2124
02:02:13,000 --> 02:02:15,900
come play here, and a lot of
that was to the second point of

2125
02:02:16,500 --> 02:02:20,600
we played nasty, you came here.
You walked out with war wounds

2126
02:02:21,200 --> 02:02:24,800
and to when I say so, making
Lane scary again is almost like

2127
02:02:24,800 --> 02:02:28,200
that same mentality of playing
nasty hitting people.

2128
02:02:28,400 --> 02:02:32,300
Being physical as hell, both on
offense and defense their

2129
02:02:32,300 --> 02:02:36,400
reputations, start building, and
you're already inside that

2130
02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:39,100
teams.
Mind that they Sunday comes on

2131
02:02:39,100 --> 02:02:41,600
and they see Virginia Tech's on
the schedule, right?

2132
02:02:42,100 --> 02:02:44,400
We got a man.
We might beat them, but we're

2133
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:46,100
going to come home.
We're going to be bloodied.

2134
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:47,900
Somebody's gonna go home with a
broken bone.

2135
02:02:47,900 --> 02:02:49,800
We will have busted ribs will be
pleading.

2136
02:02:50,700 --> 02:02:53,300
And then the last piece is y'all
said it time and time again.

2137
02:02:53,300 --> 02:02:55,600
Is I don't think DB use going
anywhere.

2138
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:58,200
We look at what we've got now,
with Jalen stroke at what we've

2139
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:01,200
got with Mansoor, some of those
young guys coming in that's not

2140
02:03:01,200 --> 02:03:03,900
going anywhere.
Charges went to the league.

2141
02:03:04,100 --> 02:03:05,700
It's true.
Yes guys.

2142
02:03:05,700 --> 02:03:09,200
Just want you to leave.
It's not going anywhere.

2143
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:11,400
I'm going to pitch this to
Sheldon and you talk about one

2144
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:15,100
of the parts reputation you want
to come on Sheldon but take out

2145
02:03:15,100 --> 02:03:17,600
defensive back.
What's one position group?

2146
02:03:17,900 --> 02:03:20,500
You wish the Hokies could
consistently put studs out

2147
02:03:20,500 --> 02:03:25,700
again.
Hmm, I'll take may be offensive

2148
02:03:25,700 --> 02:03:30,500
line, I mean, we have a while.
Yeah, we love you.

2149
02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:36,100
And we also had a, we had a good
run of running back to email and

2150
02:03:36,100 --> 02:03:41,300
Kevin Jones and all those guys.
I think the skill thing, might

2151
02:03:41,300 --> 02:03:44,300
partly be like, a different
Graphics issue.

2152
02:03:44,300 --> 02:03:46,800
Like how what's this go?
I will tell in our recruiting

2153
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:50,400
gradius like, you know, I would
imagine most of the scale tones,

2154
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:52,700
probably in like Florida, George
California.

2155
02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:55,100
Like what are we do?
We have like Geographic

2156
02:03:55,100 --> 02:03:58,000
proximity to a lot of good
talented, quarterbacks and

2157
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:00,300
receivers and running backs like
I'm Jin Liquors like because I

2158
02:04:00,308 --> 02:04:06,000
don't know.
I will say the overall

2159
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:10,400
quarterback Talent level in
Virginia has kind of fallen off

2160
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:13,800
the mat so that that's that has
hurt us.

2161
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:18,100
You know, probably Trace make
soil is probably the last big

2162
02:04:18,100 --> 02:04:21,200
name guy.
Yeah seriously.

2163
02:04:21,500 --> 02:04:23,500
Yeah.
And so I mean the the talent

2164
02:04:23,500 --> 02:04:26,100
level at quarterback in the
state has fallen off

2165
02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:29,600
significantly.
That's hurt our ability to

2166
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:33,500
Recruit skill position and
sometimes it's hard to recruit

2167
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:35,900
wide receiver.
When you can't recruit a

2168
02:04:35,900 --> 02:04:38,300
high-level quarterback,
especially when you try to lure

2169
02:04:38,300 --> 02:04:41,000
in state Talent.
So I think one is beginning the

2170
02:04:41,000 --> 02:04:45,900
other here, obviously, we had
some success with Jerrod

2171
02:04:45,900 --> 02:04:49,900
getting, you know, recruited
there when winter came in.

2172
02:04:49,900 --> 02:04:53,600
And then hidden hooker Robeson
was a talented quarterback from

2173
02:04:53,600 --> 02:04:58,800
North Carolina, but there really
hasn't been a ton of in-state

2174
02:04:58,900 --> 02:05:00,400
town at the quarterback
position.

2175
02:05:00,500 --> 02:05:03,400
Position and again a good while
and it's definitely had been

2176
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:07,800
consistent.
Yeah, I don't you know just

2177
02:05:07,800 --> 02:05:10,000
thinking about recruiting and
thinking about what we are.

2178
02:05:10,500 --> 02:05:17,500
I don't know many wide receivers
or quarterbacks that'll just go,

2179
02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:18,800
you know.
Hey I'm gonna go to Virginia

2180
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:22,200
Tech and I'm going to the league
like it's that's a hard sale

2181
02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:25,000
because that's just not who we
are at the moment.

2182
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:28,000
Maybe we can transition to that
one day, but that's not us.

2183
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:33,500
But what I'd like to see What I
think we are is players like

2184
02:05:33,700 --> 02:05:36,900
Gabe Williams.
Coming off the edge linebackers

2185
02:05:37,300 --> 02:05:41,200
and getting those defensive
ends, get those dominant

2186
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:44,400
defensive ends because for a
while that we always had a

2187
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:49,300
defensive end that people 100%
had the game plan for, you know,

2188
02:05:49,300 --> 02:05:52,900
and even even some of the guys
who didn't have long stints in

2189
02:05:52,900 --> 02:05:56,600
the league when they were there.
They were very, very productive

2190
02:05:56,600 --> 02:06:00,100
at the defensive end position.
So I think, if we can get back

2191
02:06:00,100 --> 02:06:06,300
to To consistently having that
NFL caliber end at least one,

2192
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:10,000
you know, of course you want
more than one, but at least one,

2193
02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:15,400
I think that that, that takes us
back to the old defense that we

2194
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had, you know what I'm saying?
Even with like Trayvon hill, we

2195
02:06:19,700 --> 02:06:21,400
had trade run.
He'll like, people had the game

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02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:23,500
plan for him.
Yes, you know, you go back, you

2197
02:06:23,500 --> 02:06:28,200
talk about daddy.
Nicholas James Gail World.

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02:06:28,200 --> 02:06:32,000
Kale world's, give me all this.
Goes on and on just about the

2199
02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:36,100
that that position Edge rusher.
And I say defensive end, but I

2200
02:06:36,108 --> 02:06:38,700
mean Ed Ruscha.
So when you talk about, you

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02:06:38,700 --> 02:06:43,000
know, even Tremaine coming off,
the end is fucking scary.

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02:06:43,100 --> 02:06:45,000
You know what I'm saying?
To have a linebacker that can

2203
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:49,000
cover that much ground and put
pressure on a, on a quarterback,

2204
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:52,700
but also be a run stopper.
We got to get back to having

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02:06:52,700 --> 02:06:56,300
some players like that.
So I think that's the position

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02:06:56,300 --> 02:06:59,100
that we should focus the most on
because that's what probably is.

2207
02:06:59,500 --> 02:07:02,000
He's come from Defense.
He's come from being a

2208
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:04,800
linebacker coach and we keep
throwing that Michael Parsons

2209
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:06,800
name.
Not Michael Parsons name out.

2210
02:07:06,800 --> 02:07:10,600
And then you already have people
that you can point to that even

2211
02:07:10,600 --> 02:07:15,400
if he didn't coach him.
Like, I think if Amare Bono had

2212
02:07:15,400 --> 02:07:17,300
come back, I think it would have
helped him a lot.

2213
02:07:17,300 --> 02:07:20,400
Uh-huh.
You know, to sit a year under

2214
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:23,300
Pride Marv, think it would help
them buddy, he's in the league,

2215
02:07:23,300 --> 02:07:24,800
he made it, you know what I'm
saying?

2216
02:07:24,800 --> 02:07:28,400
He's living his dream.
So you can recruit a play and

2217
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:32,400
say, hey, this guy went to
Virginia Tech Maribor know, give

2218
02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:34,900
him on the phone, then you got
your main it because those guys

2219
02:07:34,900 --> 02:07:38,400
like that that's the position
right now that we can recruit at

2220
02:07:38,900 --> 02:07:41,200
and we can bring back pretty
quick.

2221
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:45,600
You know, I'm hoping that we see
Kelly Lawson, take that next

2222
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:47,400
step and be one of those guys,
as well.

2223
02:07:48,000 --> 02:07:52,700
So, if prior can, you know, live
up to his living up to his

2224
02:07:52,700 --> 02:07:55,800
reputation and get a couple of
those guys to the next level,

2225
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:59,600
man, that'll that'll put
Virginia Tech back on the map a

2226
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:02,300
little bit.
Where we need to be, in my

2227
02:08:02,300 --> 02:08:05,400
opinion.
Yeah, I mean, we talked about a

2228
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:07,300
little bit everything, you know,
we talked about conference

2229
02:08:07,300 --> 02:08:09,900
realignment, we talked about the
administration and I

2230
02:08:09,900 --> 02:08:15,300
overcrowding every player
development drip, we talked

2231
02:08:15,300 --> 02:08:20,600
about reputation, but the key to
all of this is that we gotta win

2232
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:23,500
some damn games, right?
We go out there and win some

2233
02:08:23,500 --> 02:08:27,400
games, some of these other
things, get a lot easier and

2234
02:08:27,400 --> 02:08:29,600
that's just going to compound
upon itself until.

2235
02:08:30,000 --> 02:08:32,200
You know, we can build ourselves
back up to where we want to be.

2236
02:08:32,200 --> 02:08:34,000
So, winning winning games, is
going to go a long.

2237
02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:37,600
Way.
Obviously, he is key and I think

2238
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:38,800
Brian.
Yep.

2239
02:08:38,800 --> 02:08:41,100
And I think the, I think the
thing is, if we start winning

2240
02:08:41,100 --> 02:08:44,400
games, everything we discuss
here tonight, you start seeing

2241
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:49,400
little checks, right?
Mmm, and we we landed Gabe, some

2242
02:08:49,400 --> 02:08:51,900
of those guys gaze been talking
about we landed them and they

2243
02:08:51,900 --> 02:08:55,300
came in and did it right away.
Hey you remember that kid from

2244
02:08:55,300 --> 02:08:59,300
Ohio tally didn't like he's the
best damn defensive tackle on

2245
02:08:59,300 --> 02:09:02,500
the team right now because they
developed it right?

2246
02:09:02,600 --> 02:09:04,900
It's like it.
It's right.

2247
02:09:04,900 --> 02:09:07,500
It's got to be a checkmark.
It's got to be everything.

2248
02:09:07,500 --> 02:09:10,000
I think all the stuff we hit on
and we talk to her tonight.

2249
02:09:10,000 --> 02:09:11,800
Y'all all done.
Awesome.

2250
02:09:12,300 --> 02:09:14,900
Hidden points if we start
checking them.

2251
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:19,900
There's no reason we shouldn't
win drink.

2252
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:23,400
Green.
And if you start winning the

2253
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:25,500
games, there's no reason you
can't get back into those

2254
02:09:25,500 --> 02:09:29,200
conversations with some of those
Elite Talent guys that we need

2255
02:09:29,200 --> 02:09:32,600
to start those building blocks
on that front.

2256
02:09:33,300 --> 02:09:37,700
Because if you can win some
games recruiting players to your

2257
02:09:37,700 --> 02:09:40,900
program, gets a lot easier.
I'm gonna just say it here.

2258
02:09:40,900 --> 02:09:44,800
Now, I know we been running kind
of long and we get ready to get

2259
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:47,400
out of here, but I want
everybody in the twittersphere

2260
02:09:48,700 --> 02:09:51,500
in all the social media world's
to understand it all.

2261
02:09:51,700 --> 02:09:55,100
Was one of the first to say this
is going to be a good year.

2262
02:09:55,800 --> 02:09:59,000
Y'all motherfuckers kept talking
and saying we was going to be

2263
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,600
sorry and we couldn't recruit
this.

2264
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:04,600
What happened?
And now see you on the

2265
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:06,300
timelines.
Having parties.

2266
02:10:08,700 --> 02:10:11,900
Just telling you you need to
think back to you boy, tally.

2267
02:10:11,900 --> 02:10:16,000
And I told y'all it was coming.
I still got that optimism.

2268
02:10:16,300 --> 02:10:20,600
This is the year and again and
ain't saying we back.

2269
02:10:21,100 --> 02:10:24,200
Get us to A bowl game and we
back in now baby.

2270
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,900
We good finally save you.
Not keeping that same energy,

2271
02:10:27,300 --> 02:10:31,100
take the Mona.
All right, boys.

2272
02:10:31,100 --> 02:10:37,900
Anything, anything breaking
breaking breaking for me?

2273
02:10:37,900 --> 02:10:39,100
I just want to tell Shelton,
man.

2274
02:10:39,100 --> 02:10:42,500
Have a safe trip.
Yeah, don't be out there

2275
02:10:42,500 --> 02:10:44,400
wrestling.
No bears and mountain lions and

2276
02:10:44,400 --> 02:10:47,600
nothing.
Hey, you know, I know how white

2277
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:49,300
people do when y'all get in
nature.

2278
02:10:51,100 --> 02:10:54,100
Hey, Be like me.
You hear a strange noise.

2279
02:10:54,100 --> 02:10:58,300
You go to other way.
Yeah, we'll see.

2280
02:10:58,300 --> 02:10:59,800
I guess I got a small pocket
knife.

2281
02:10:59,800 --> 02:11:03,700
That's all I got.
So they can do a whole lot of

2282
02:11:03,700 --> 02:11:06,600
damn police.
You got something well, shall

2283
02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:10,300
men, we appreciate you.
Taking shelter was on vacation.

2284
02:11:10,300 --> 02:11:14,500
He said he's on take the two
hours, right man, for doing that

2285
02:11:14,500 --> 02:11:16,700
tonight because you added a ton
with that development and your

2286
02:11:16,700 --> 02:11:21,000
other comments again, safe
travels back to the Commonwealth

2287
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:23,100
here.
And that is going to wrap it up

2288
02:11:23,100 --> 02:11:26,400
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2297
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:57,500
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2298
02:11:57,500 --> 02:11:59,800
think, you know what I'm saying?
If we get enough people, y'all

2299
02:11:59,800 --> 02:12:05,800
messages and you guys want to
have your five minutes to tell

2300
02:12:05,800 --> 02:12:07,700
us how to get back to Glory.
Let us know.

2301
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:10,700
We're going to run a space here
soon if we get enough people to

2302
02:12:10,700 --> 02:12:14,100
be interested and we want to
hear what what Virginia Tech

2303
02:12:14,700 --> 02:12:18,200
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about how we need to get back to

2304
02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:20,200
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So let's do it.

2305
02:12:20,900 --> 02:12:25,200
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02:12:25,200 --> 02:12:28,100
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Any podcast Source.

2307
02:12:28,100 --> 02:12:30,300
Listen to it.
What we talked about go back to

2308
02:12:30,300 --> 02:12:32,600
those, tell us what you think,
because, like tally said, he

2309
02:12:32,600 --> 02:12:36,500
sees enough, we're going to run
a space very soon here to hear

2310
02:12:36,500 --> 02:12:38,700
your opinion on, how we get back
there.

2311
02:12:39,200 --> 02:12:42,500
As always, Jason Wang plays a
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2312
02:12:42,500 --> 02:12:46,200
week down in Roanoke, check him
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2313
02:12:46,200 --> 02:12:49,900
Jason long music.com, where it
links you to all of his music

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amplifier.
Via Apple Spotify, YouTube,

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Facebook accounts, he does have
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2316
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The covers EP featuring The
Midnight Rider.

2317
02:12:58,500 --> 02:13:00,600
You heard, as we were joined
with print.

2318
02:13:00,600 --> 02:13:03,900
Fry, we thank you all for
listening and as always let's

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02:13:03,900 --> 02:13:05,400
go.
Okay.