Rebuilding A Program

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I don't know if you noticed, but

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there's some new music in the
intro there for this episode.

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This is, yeah, yeah, that's our
man.

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Jason long with a little cover
of Midnight Rider.

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They're not a lie.
You know who originally recorded

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Midnight Rider, right?
Midnight?

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Rado.
Pretty sure that's by the Allman

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Brothers.
He got it.

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Yes, I'm in Brothers.
You know who's The big fan of

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the Allman Brothers, right?
I think I know somebody somebody

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that was talking about playlist
a few weeks back.

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Hey, coach Brent pry.
I yeah, so so boundary corn

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podcast listeners with all that
being said, It is an absolute

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pleasure, to Welcome to the
boundary Corner podcast.

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Today, not only is he a big,
Allman Brothers fan but he is

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the head coach of your Virginia
Tech.

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Hokies, welcome coach.
Brent fry coach Frey.

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How you doing?
I'ma tell you had me worried for

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a minute.
I was like, okay, I hope they

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don't think that's Gregg.
Allman wasn't bad, but certainly

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not Gregg Allman here.
Be great almond though.

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Absolutely hard.
But I buddy when we told him we

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thought about having you on he's
like I'm going to record it

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because he's putting out a CD
and a few days here, love it.

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He was said he wanted to do the
tip of the cap.

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Not only to the Allman Brothers
but to coach Pride because he I

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buddies down in Roanoke.
Tell me his name again.

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Jason long great will tell him.
I appreciate it.

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We absolutely will Coach Has
everything been man?

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We know you are busy as heck.
These last few months here?

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Yeah, it's been a good good
spring.

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And then, of course, the
assistants hit the road

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recruiting and we've been doing
hokey club events around the

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state which have been well
received.

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And now, we're just got all our
guys in for summer, on Sunday

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night.
We had a big team meeting and so

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they're already rocking and
rolling and lifting and running

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and getting things going.
So, Also own into phase 3.

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When you know, you just said
the, the tailgate and over last

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night last night, right.
You sure did?

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Yeah, we had a great.
We flew out yesterday.

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At before lunch, we had a great
lunch.

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With some very important donors
and supporters of the program,

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Mike Vick was in attendance,
Kendall, Fuller, and obviously

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some prominent guys that support
the program and that lasted a

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couple hours and we went over to
two silos.

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As in, you know, had a nice nice
time there, met a ton of people,

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my wife, Amy goes with us to
those things and shake a lot of

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hands, kiss, a lot of babies and
share that hokey love.

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Yes sir.
Yes sir.

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Well coach, you already
mentioned phase 3 and you know

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as we kind of wrapping up the
spring and everything here,

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we're about halfway through the
calendar year, how do you feel

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overall phase one, the winter
workouts and you as you call

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them and Phase 2 spring
practice.

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How do you feel It went for the
team.

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Yeah, I'd say I was pleased.
Phase one was much more

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competitive.
That's a combination of morning

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workouts, football sessions
weight room a lot of one-on-one

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reps in agility, cone work.
Matt drills, we documented all

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the Reps and called out winners
and the level of compete just

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rows and rows and rows as we
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So, very pleased there.
I think our Our pad level, our

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footwork, things like that
improved, as well as the compete

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level, then Phase 2 Spring ball,
you know, that's where guys

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getting opportunity.
That hadn't been in it too deep

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previously and all the sudden
they're inserted and they're

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getting meaningful reps.
And you know, I thought the

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fundamentals were there, I
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position.
I thought there was Improvement.

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You don't do your whole package
in the spring but there was

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improvement with what?
What we did install offensively

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and defensively.
Well, talking about spring.

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Practice a little bit, we know
you've been coaching a long,

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long time.
Coach kind of new to head

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coaching.
So, last year being your first

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year and it's being your second
year where there any particular

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areas of focus that you kind of
input it this year or focused on

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this year more than last year?
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know, it's steals get but it
still gets back to identifying

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the weaknesses.
With each guy on your roster and

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that could be the best player on
the team.

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It could be number 125 but you
have to be able to talk to

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identify those weaknesses and
talk to those guys about it and

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how do we improve on them?
You know, that's a big area

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emphasis and I think in year one
it's hard to know enough about

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each guy.
If you hadn't been around up

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enough, yeah, you know, and
that's all on the field.

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That's off the field, that's all
of it.

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So when you have a whole cycle
with them and you just feel a

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little better about what, you
know, and you can work on

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things.
Felt like we did a good job.

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They're much better job, myself
and the staff.

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And then the additional piece is
just, you know, really being the

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best head coach a can be yes,
sir definitely has waited half

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my time back in the defensive
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I was able to spend a bunch of
time right here.

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At this desk, don't head
coaching duties the from the so

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kind of going back to that as
well.

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That was there any things that
you kind of scrap from last year

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now that you're putting more of
that head coaching hat on most

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of the time, if your scrap
anything from last year that you

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did and kind of what led to that
if you did.

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Yeah, to be honest, just spit,
not spending the time in that

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defensive room.
You know, not feeling like,

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okay, I got to go back there
from 9 to 11 and from from three

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to four, and just gave my
calendar.

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A lot more freedom to do other
things within the program within

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the community on the University
campus just was able to be a

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better more well-rounded head
coach.

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I feel like that's awesome.
I love hearing that I'm just

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now.
Yeah it's definitely nice

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earring that you know some
Beyond a focus On those head

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coach do.
That's definitely something that

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we like to hear what position
group from the spring and in the

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winter workouts.
Do you think kind of exceed your

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expectation kind of during the
course of those two phases.

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Yeah I think the wideouts showed
the most Improvement, they had

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to longest way to go.
Well they might have been right

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last last year but I'll tell you
coach mines, has done a fabulous

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job recruiting and coaching that
group.

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We've had some As develop,
Stephen does nail Tucker.

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Holloway's Avion, Bradshaw.
We've recruited some Highschool

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guys.
That were excited about

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developing Aiden.
Green Marcel Baylor, the chi,

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he's penix, Fitzgerald.
I mean, when you talk about the

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three transfers Felton, Lane,
and Jennings, all three of them,

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have a chance to be in the
starting lineup and if not,

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they're going to be in a serious
role.

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Location.
So we really helped ourselves

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are we couldn't separate well
enough last year.

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We didn't catch the ball.
Well enough, we weren't fast

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enough, we didn't have depth so
I think we got a chance to have

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a true six.
Maybe seven that we feel really

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good about catching the ball
Route 1 and yards after catch,

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you know, some of those guys
needed, you know, we got to have

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some guys who make some big-time
plays and Big Time moments.

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That's that's a big step forward
from last year with you know,

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the only Kayla Smith was the the
big reliable but you didn't

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really have a whole lot of
consistent output Beyond him.

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So outside of him, there wasn't
much, you know, and he was, he

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was up and down with his health
and you know how many snaps you

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can play and if he was going to
play, but I think we're in a

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much better place there.
I love coach how you just speak.

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So candidly saying that wide
receiver group was last last

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year and how they've taken those
tried.

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That's wonderful to hear and,
you know, you mentioned some of

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those transfers including Jalen
Lane, you know, we didn't get to

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see Jalen, you know, at the
spring game because he was a

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little banged up and those are
things that can be unforeseen

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and there ain't no reason to
take any unnecessary risks.

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This is a spring game, you're
wrapping up at face.

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No reason aggravated Nick but
that's certainly impacts the

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balance of the game and these
boys that I had to ask this

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question because I've talked
about it several times on the

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podcast that make that doesn't
mean I got to answer it.

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It doesn't trip.
In this.

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Now, couple years, do you
foresee any change to the spring

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game format?
Given the limitations, you know,

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we knew Xavier Chaplin was out
on that white team this year and

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that was a big loss for them.
How do you see that going

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forward?
Or is that something

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self-evaluation constantly.
Yeah, I think that's an annual

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evaluation on how you want to do
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You know for us right now we
still needed four, quarters game

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Operation game management.
The whole team and staff needed

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that in the stadium.
As we get further down the road.

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If we get to a better place
which I hope we will, maybe it

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can be a little more geared
towards just, you know, seeing

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guys work and little bit more
like a scrimmage situation

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rather than game situation and,
you know, get more out of it

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that way.
But also let me tell you when

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you hit that last practice you
don't want to lose anybody.

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Yes sir you know the haze almost
in the barn.

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There's Going to be a handful of
guys, every year that need that

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game.
That need the evaluation, you

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know, that need to experience.
And they're generally not in

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that line up.
There may be a backup guy that

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surfaced or somebody that was
banged up early in Spring.

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And you say, you know what, it's
worth the risk, we got to go get

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him a good day, but I've lost
starters in the spring game and

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other places other years and
that's a bad feeling.

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So, we came out of that thing
healthy, which was put a smile

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on everybody's face.
Absolutely.

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That's a big step towards the
summer, right?

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Nobody's barely injured.
It's hard to get better when

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you're in that training room.
Hey gum right?

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Yeah, definitely.
But another one of those

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required by law questions.
Coach, now you're not required

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by law to answer, but I'm
required to ask about the

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quarterback battle just a little
bit, but just touching on it a

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little bit different.
What areas did you see growth

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with Wells and drones in that
Phase 1 & 2?

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Like what areas did each one of
those growing more?

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Yeah I say this great is a he's
a better student of the game.

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He made better choices.
Really proud of what coach

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Bowens at how coach has impacted
that room being in there every

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day.
In the relationship, he's built

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with Grant and Chiron in the
young guys.

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So I think the decision making
by Grant and then with Chiron

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you just saw a guy get better
each and every day he just

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slowly but surely from practice,
one to practice 14.

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Look like a different
quarterback.

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I mean you got to opposite ends
of the spectrum.

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You got Wells whose a three-year
starter at the college level.

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Level you got Chiron.
Who's never started a game?

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But has a really, really good
skill.

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Set can spin it.
He's 63 nearly 235.

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He's got could speed one of the
stronger guys, on our team.

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So, you know, both those guys, I
thought really showed some some

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good things this spring, and
then the young guy, pop Watson,

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Dylan Wiki, I thought they both
did some good things.

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I'm pleased with where they're
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Men and Papas able to go out and
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spring game, which was good.
But quietly Dylan went out and

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managed his couple of series
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opportunity to make a play, but
man, he made really good

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decisions.
And sometimes, as you said,

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those lines are patched together
and those quarterbacks got, you

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know, it's a little bit tougher
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Yeah, and speaking of Dylan I
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I think that went off of
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they're kind of laid the in the
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So that was a good chance to see
what he could do.

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Kind of get the ball down field,
let's kind of rewind.

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A little bit though, heading
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He had to make some changes to
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staff with Coach Rudolph, coach,
Glenn, moving on.

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How do you feel coach Bowen and
Coach hold have adjusted to

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these changes so far?
This offseason yeah it's been

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great.
You know I I'll start Art with

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Boeing.
I my gut wanted him to coach

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quarterbacks.
When we started this thing, you

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know, a long time ago, Wiki
bustle and you guys know Rick.

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Okay, I'm hired me as a 31-year
old coordinator at Louisiana

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Lafayette.
And man, I tell you what, I'd

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coached a ton of dbe's, I'd
coach D line, never coach

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linebackers and I just said, you
know what, I need to do it to be

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the best coordinator?
I can be I need to go do this

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from the linebacker position and
so I had that gut you know that

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gut feeling and just didn't move
on it, you know.

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So Tyler had been a tight end
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you know, so I'm very pleased,
you know, he got more involved

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in that room.
The stretch and then, you know,

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this winter, this spring seen
him in you know the work that's

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done with those guys.
Those quarterbacks at this level

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they got to live the life every
day.

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They got to be chomping at the
bit for the game plan.

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They got to be in that film room
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Now, there's just things that
are necessary, be to be a good

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quarterback in power 5 ball.
And you know, and I think Tyler

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has really he's laid out of a
really good plan for those guys.

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Help me and further process.
And so, it's been a good move

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and thence to hold, he's just a
good football coach.

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He's coached running back, she's
coached ID, and she's coached

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him daggone.
Good tight ends and so that was

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easy.
He's a really first guy, it was

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easy to move out to the tight
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by guy, like Nick Gallo out
there who is going to help that

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transition.
And when you're the Special

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Teams, coordinator you work with
all the positions.

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Yep.
Oh, he already.

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He had relationship with those
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And that, you know, that was I'm
very pleased with the direction

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that went with the addition of
Elijah Brooks who I've known for

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a long time, what he did at
DeMatha on the recruiting, front

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on the coaching, front on a
development piece, all of it.

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And then, you know, seeing them
at Maryland, you know, those

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last three years I was at Penn,
State, and coaching against Tim

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and and recruiting against him
and understanding, you know my

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clock.
Locksley and knowing Mike and

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just how they recruit there.
And so it was it was we were

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fortunate to get Elijah and then
Ron crook Ron's a guy didn't

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know as well but so many people
I trust and respect for years

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and years reached out about Ron
and said the right things that

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are meaningful to me.
That made sense for Virginia

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Tech, that makes sense for Brent
pride and make sense for our own

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line room.
So feel great about both those

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guys Footprint guys, which, you
know, you guys hear me.

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Say that all the time.
Oh yeah.

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Plenty of ties.
They strengthen our ability to

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be really good in our footprint.
So to me, it was, you know, we

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were a win-win.
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It sounds like that with Coach
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in, they were able to hit the
ground running and those 15

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practices.
And clearly, you know, you talk

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about footprint, you know, from
our buddy, Robbie talking about

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being up in the state of West
Virginia and like, Ohio.

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And I Obviously Elijah that
DeMatha connection man.

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I mean when he came on and we I
read his biography and it said

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he is the winningest coach in
the map of History because

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that's what that's like, because
I go back there.

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And the first thing I thought of
somebody you work with, I

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thought, Billy Hite was that
demand the connection for so

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many years and getting another
one, and you're getting the most

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successful coach.
That's big stuff.

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Yeah.
Good higher force.

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And, you know, you got great
family and he's been in, he's

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been in high-powered League.
And you know, for four years and

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it just, you know, you look for
certain things, you don't know

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if you're going to get a guy
who's going to check every box.

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But I tell you, we got awful
close for me and then Ron when

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you talk about Ron and I joke
about it.

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But, you know, there's all these
Tiny's programs in the state of

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West Virginia and Pennsylvania,
right?

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So, you know, he coached at
Glanville my mom's a Glanville

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grad, right?
When I was young, we would take

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trips to Glanville.
He coached it at West Virginia.

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Tech my dad coached at West
Virginia Tech.

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You know, he coached at Clarion
my dad coached at Clarion, you

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know, he's from Parkersburg.
I mean, we were, we were at

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Louis County forever for four
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And so there's just all these
small College relationships and

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you know what those places are
about, and the products of those

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places and I know what they did
for my dad and what they did for

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me and you coach at places, like
East Stroudsburg and You know,

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so that meant a lot to me in,
you know, in the process and in

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the evaluation and what we're
going to do for us, definitely

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coach.
We talk about those coaches and

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Coach hires not long after
spring, you made hired at most

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Hokies are very familiar with
mr.

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James Johnson Bible Jake.
Nobody straight Noble.

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Jackie, we know, we know he had
been in the building a lot or as

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of late Before that official
announcement and his title.

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And see its title is director of
high school relations.

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Can you speak a little bit more
about specifically what his job

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entails?
Or what his role entails?

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Yeah.
So he's just checking higher at

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that spot.
Glenwood fear.

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Beach, there Glenwood was a head
coach in Virginia Beach and then

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down in Charlotte, and these
positions are about building

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relationships with high school
recruits and their families.

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He's and High School coaches
assistance in head.

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It's about these guys diving in
and knowing the assistant

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principal at a school in
Charlotte.

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Well, used to be a coke with
them.

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It's about a guy being from
Richmond being from Virginia

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Beach.
Having roots in our footprint

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particularly in the state of
Virginia it's you know neither

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one of those guys is evaluating
film right.

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Well that's not really what
there.

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They may be sitting in there
when we're looking at a guy and

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I'm sure double Jo get better as
time goes, but I know this, he

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can evaluate athleticism, you
know, definitely.

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But when you talk about people
skills and likeable personality

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and positive energy and all
these things that you want, when

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people visit our program and
come into our facility Coach

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Johnson, has all of that.
He's very well throughout stood

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in the area.
He's very Well, respected in

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this department very well
thought of across the

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Commonwealth.
So that was a he was kind of a

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latecomer to the idea of hey,
you know, what do you think

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coach, would you be interested
in this?

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He had, he had a cyst in
opportunities at several places

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at good places, and he's got
such a passion for Virginia

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Tech.
He been around our program

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enough.
He sat in many staff meetings,

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many team.
We knew what we were about and

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he wanted to be part of it, you
know which which may be awful

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proud and excited to get him on
board with us.

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We appreciate you guys coach
putting it on there about what

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that high school relations is
because I think a lot of people

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were thinking, oh, they're
filming.

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They're out there at the games
on Friday nights.

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Looking at these players.
Thank you for finally

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clarifying, that and some house.
Let's talk a little bit more

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about recruiting day.
One, never forget it.

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You said we're going to recruit
the state of Virginia, 6, I

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right. 80s from Blacksburg your
about 18 months in the year. 10

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year, how do you feel your
vision is starting to level up

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with the caliber of players you
want to play football in

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Blacksburg?
Yeah, we've uh we've got a

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really good job.
I think investing in the state

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and in the footprint, you know,
it's not always easy for the

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assistance because they just,
you know, they want to go

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recruit the 10 best linebackers
in the country, you know?

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And so there's been some
education and some, you know,

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some direction and Leadership
for me to say, Hey listen, it's

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instead of you going to Texas to
see a guy in flying back and get

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one visit in a whole day if you
recruit the footprint.

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And you go see these four or
five guys you know more than

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likely one or two emerging to
develop into a player that we

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would want.
Uh-oh, they've done a good job.

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Putting in a time, I told a
story at that donor luncheon,

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yesterday, that first December.
I was hired, we went in Warwick

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High School, Mike Vick School,
took a picture with the Jersey,

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you know, and they didn't have
me both for sin and seen a

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Virginia Tech coach and six
years.

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Hmm, that's crazy. - and that's
just a different philosophy.

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I'm not knocking that last
punch.

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But for me, you know, And how
we're going to do it, man.

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I want to be the front runner.
There's a prospect that might

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fix cool.
We got all the reason in the

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world to think, even if he
becomes a national recruit

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everybody in her mother wants,
you know man this is Mike's cool

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guy relationship with Mike Weir
in there every year.

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Here we go.
No I don't think there should be

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a good player in the state of
Virginia that has a better

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relationship with anybody with
any staff more than ours.

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They may choose to go somewhere
else and they will But the

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relationship piece we got to win
that.

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Yeah, definitely, definitely.
That's that's a that's part of

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not talking too much about the
other bunch of like you said,

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but that's part of the things
that were missing with

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recruiting and what US fans were
kind of frustrated with.

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So glad to hear you say that
coaching.

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Also, something else you
mentioned was the portal.

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We've seen this offseason to
Stronger, use of the portal to

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feel some spots on the roster.
Is it going to be your ' going

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forward to, you know, use the
poor that way, is it still going

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to be kind of a availability and
fit thing.

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Yeah, uh I need and fit you
know, where we feel like we need

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an older guy or did we lose you
know that we not do well enough

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with our freshman class at a
particular area that says we

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might need to go to the portal
you know, for a guy or two, you

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know, do you lose a guy me
weave?

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You know, this roster is really
flipped and then we've got,

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we've got 30 37, new players, 36
new players, you know, since

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that, since the season ended.
Yeah.

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It's but to do that, you know,
there's got to be action in the

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portal, right fortunate.
We only had one player hit that

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thing since we've been here that
we didn't want to see go.

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That was the wide receiver,
Caleb Smith.

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But we feel like in the trade,
you know, in a negotiation we

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were able to get three receivers
out of the portal that we feel

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really good about.
So, you're a little bit like a

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GM these days, you know, we're
trying to build your Stir retain

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your roster and make it as
strong as you can.

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Yeah.
And you talk about the guys that

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left, you know, with Caleb
obviously ultimately medically

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retiring from football, you
know.

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You don't know if that was going
to necessarily be something that

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happened to you.
Anyway, so the trade-off there

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is definitely in Virginia Tech's
favor.

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I feel like and yeah, not always
work to do.

448
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,900
We support and Caleb through the
whole thing and whether he chose

449
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:51,700
to return to Tech or move on and
my buddies the off.

450
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,000
Bunch of coordinator at Notre
Dame and we were talking and

451
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,000
upfront with one another and
it's unfortunate for Caleb.

452
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,900
It didn't work out.
But you know, my interest, you

453
00:28:01,908 --> 00:28:04,800
know, first is Virginia Tech and
I feel very good about what

454
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,000
we're able to do and that portal
to me, right.

455
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,900
It's what's scary sometimes guys
is you can recruit a high school

456
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:15,400
player for three and four years
and get to know everything about

457
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,300
him and his family.
You might have to make a

458
00:28:18,308 --> 00:28:22,100
decision on the prospect in the
transfer portal in two or three

459
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:25,500
weeks.
Yeah, so doing your homework and

460
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,400
calling the high school and
calling the former College.

461
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:31,600
You'll call them people in the
community, you know, crossing

462
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,700
your t's and dotting your eyes
to make sure this guy not only

463
00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:38,200
is the player we need him to be
but really more importantly.

464
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,700
He's also culturally going to
fit with the way we do things.

465
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,300
Yeah, you know, we're going
along with the transfer portal.

466
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:48,600
Let's talk in a little bit
because that's a new step in

467
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,000
this whole process as well.
You know, we hear on this

468
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,600
podcast, you've historically
supported the idea of Ni L but

469
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:59,300
came down pretty hard on the
NCAA in terms of how it was

470
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:02,600
implemented between kind of
punting the responsibility and

471
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,500
then kind of slap dashing a
loose framework there together

472
00:29:05,500 --> 00:29:09,300
to kind of get it going.
But my question for you is how

473
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:12,100
his ni L coupled with kind of
the lakh sir.

474
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:15,500
The transfer portal rules
impacted the way you approach

475
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,000
recruiting and retaining players
and roster management in

476
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,600
general.
Well, it's all of that, right?

477
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:27,200
It's everything is said, I mean,
roster management retention is

478
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,100
something that's there all the
time.

479
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:33,700
So that's one of the reasons I'm
very upfront with our team.

480
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,000
One of the reasons that
communication is one of our five

481
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,200
fundamentals, we have to be able
to have hard conversations.

482
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:47,200
Relations with one another, if
you're thinking that that you

483
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,800
may want another opportunity
somewhere that you're going to

484
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,700
chase some money or chase a move
up the depth chart come in and

485
00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:56,400
let's talk about it.
Let's make sure you're not

486
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,100
basing a decision on something
that's not real or

487
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:02,400
misinformation.
Let's talk through it.

488
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,300
Going to same for me.
If I've got issues with a guy

489
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:08,100
and I'm thinking, we might need
to move on.

490
00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:10,800
We're going to talk about it.
I told you guys before.

491
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,500
We went out for the spring.
I told the entire team I said

492
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:19,100
we're over seven scholarships.
I said now I can't keep

493
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:23,900
everybody that's in this room.
We're also over spots on the

494
00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:27,100
roster in general.
So whether you're a scholarship

495
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:29,800
player or walk-on player,
there's competition all over the

496
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,900
place to see who we move forward
with and I said it's my job as

497
00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:38,000
the head coach to make this most
the most competitive roster in

498
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,700
the country.
That's my job.

499
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,800
If I'm not doing that I'm
failing everybody in Here, we

500
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,200
all want to win a championship,
the fans, the administration to

501
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,700
staff the families, the players
that the Letterman.

502
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,700
So to do that, the roster has to
be as competitive as we can be.

503
00:30:55,900 --> 00:30:59,000
I tell him, I told you, I'm
bringing somebody into take your

504
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,700
job, that's what I'm doing.
So you better be on your toes

505
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:07,200
that's as real as it gets
understand, is they understand

506
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,000
the climate of things?
What, what?

507
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,800
What's scary is?
You know, we had a player he

508
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,300
wasn't into Portal and he gets
inducements to go to other

509
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:21,100
places.
You know, we're able to kind of

510
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:23,700
talk through it.
And hey man, do you like it

511
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:24,800
here?
First of all?

512
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,300
Because I love it here.
Well then, let's find a way to

513
00:31:27,300 --> 00:31:29,100
make this work, right?
Yeah.

514
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:35,400
So, but then, if you, okay, so
you wrap it up and January comes

515
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,100
along that portal window,
closes.

516
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,900
And you go into Spring ball and
everything goes good.

517
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:41,800
And every well, guess what?
The poor the window.

518
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,500
Oh opens again.
Yeah, you know there's people

519
00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:49,100
poaching players off other
rosters that aren't in the

520
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:52,100
portal.
Third party entities.

521
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:55,000
I'm not saying that your coaches
in some cases, it is, there's

522
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,300
proof out there.
There's text message users, you

523
00:31:58,300 --> 00:32:01,100
know, but a lot of times its
third party people, it's an

524
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:03,200
assistant coach at the high
school.

525
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:06,100
You know, somebody trying to
maybe make a buck or just kind

526
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:10,700
of steer the boat a little bit.
So it's a constant battle.

527
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,100
Again just trying to be honest
with these guys and where we're

528
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:18,400
at and and I think that's the
best policy man, some

529
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,600
transparency about things. 100%
Goethe.

530
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,900
I love hearing you had that
conversation telling all 125

531
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:30,400
guys, not just 85, guys,
everybody's competing,

532
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,700
everybody's competing top to
bottom.

533
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,400
And I look at the class of
twenty three, you had a huge, we

534
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,000
had a huge amount enrolled early
in the spring semester ahead of

535
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,000
time.
Tally said it a couple times

536
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,000
watching the spring game, I
can't you be at a senior prom

537
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,700
right now and he's out there
getting somebody on the field.

538
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,600
Um, How much of a benefit is it
getting those guys on campus in

539
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,300
January for you as a team?
Yeah.

540
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:03,600
It's, you know, anywhere I've
been as long as the guys mature

541
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,700
enough and ready for college,
it's a benefit and most times

542
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,800
those are the guys that want to
come early.

543
00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:14,600
They're anxious and they can do
the school work to get out

544
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,600
early.
You know, the guys that are

545
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,400
struggling and can or want to
play around and have fun all

546
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,400
Bring and they're not interested
in doing.

547
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,500
But you know, when I was at Penn
State and had recruited Michael

548
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:31,700
Parsons, He was a defensive end
with his hand in the dirt and I

549
00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:33,900
knew I wanted to give him a shot
at linebacker.

550
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:38,500
Well had he not come into spring
and got 15 practices in a ton of

551
00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:41,100
meetings.
He never could have done it as a

552
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:44,100
freshman.
He led our team in tackles but

553
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:47,600
if he hadn't been there early
you know we got guys out here,

554
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,200
they're get giving themselves a
chance to help us because of

555
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:50,700
that.
At.

556
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:54,800
So, you know, it's definite
benefit, it's not for everybody.

557
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,900
And certainly not every school
allows it.

558
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,100
But, you know, we signed 26 high
school players, 13 of them from

559
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:07,400
the state of Virginia, sir, but
that's important but also the

560
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,600
fact that 22 of them won state
championships, there was twenty

561
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,199
one of them were the captains of
their team 800 win percentage

562
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:20,400
for their senior year, just a
lot of qualities that screaming.

563
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:25,900
Surety and ability to come early
and have a chance to practice.

564
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:29,500
Well in the spring and give
themselves a leg up on helping

565
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:33,800
us in the fall.
Definitely you hit on a couple

566
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,600
of the, you know, recruiting
class that you had last year and

567
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:41,199
some of the players and stuff
for the end of 22 when you were

568
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:46,600
hired, did the 23 cycle, you
talked about being a little bit

569
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,800
behind Regional recruiting
opponents because Cuz of the

570
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,900
relationships that were built
for the school.

571
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,400
Before you got here.
Do you feel like this 2024 class

572
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,500
is kind of the first class that
you're not playing catch-up that

573
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:04,800
you're, you know, kind of out
front on some of the, some of

574
00:35:04,808 --> 00:35:07,500
the prospects?
I don't know if out front

575
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:11,000
because to me if we work
recruiting them in ninth grade

576
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,400
we're behind.
Yeah.

577
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,900
And there's some of these guys
that hadn't been to Virginia

578
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:22,200
Tech until we started recruiting
them as Graders right?

579
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:27,400
You know so we're still going to
be behind not as much right.

580
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,600
You know certainly which I feel
better about but you know a lot

581
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,100
of decisions were made on that
23 class on some of those upper

582
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:39,600
tier guys and you know, I feel
great about our class but also

583
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,600
you want to be able to have a
chance with each and every good

584
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,600
Prospect in our state to have
recruited him from ninth grade

585
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,400
on definite you know.
And maybe they're not to the

586
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:53,800
Aspect as a ninth, or tenth
grader that they become but man,

587
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,000
they've come to your Camp.
They've seen you in your, in

588
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,200
their school.
They've been to a game because

589
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,800
they got an invitation, like,
there's so many things you can

590
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,800
do.
Yeah, you get a lot.

591
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,900
Like, sometimes, you get those
late bloomers where if you have

592
00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:09,200
a relationship in ninth grade,
and guys, start turning the

593
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,500
corner of 10th grade 11th.
Grade year, you're in a good

594
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:14,300
position to kind of close the
deal, because you were kind of

595
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:18,700
there there from the get-go.
Yeah, let me, let me ask you

596
00:36:18,707 --> 00:36:20,300
this though.
So, we know that like, there's a

597
00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:23,400
ton Factors that play a role in
the recruiting process whether

598
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,000
it's skiing fit playing time
that, you know, programs on the

599
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,800
education side of things.
You got, n, IL opportunities,

600
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,600
kind of, everything's out there.
As far as you know, what goes

601
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,300
into making decision to play for
Virginia Tech.

602
00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:38,100
What I'm curious to hear your
opinion on is how much does

603
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,100
winning football games, make
recruiting and retaining players

604
00:36:41,100 --> 00:36:45,000
easier for you and your staff.
I think winning games is very

605
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,000
important, obviously, that's
that's the ultimate on the

606
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,400
field.
That's the ultimate goal.

607
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:54,300
Alright.
But at the same time, I think

608
00:36:54,300 --> 00:36:59,700
the belief And the way we're
doing things, I think the belief

609
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:03,100
in how people are treated.
I think the belief in the

610
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:07,200
experience is all important to,
I'm not going to sit here and

611
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,300
say, guys are going to be happy
when in three games because

612
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:13,200
they're not, nobody is.
But as long as everybody feels

613
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,500
like, we're going in the right
direction, we're doing the right

614
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:18,800
things, there's improvements.
That's that's what I hope for.

615
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,500
And I think that's what's really
important right now, with where

616
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:27,000
we're at as a program.
I love hearing it that way

617
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,800
coach.
All right, before we get to some

618
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,600
more topics with head coach,
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right before we went in our
break, there about three games?

643
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,200
That was your first time last
year as a head coach and didn't

644
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,100
have a ton of the top in Talent
going into battle each week, but

645
00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:50,900
you guys fought every week
tooth.

646
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,500
And now, I think we all saw that
as a fan.

647
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,600
But what were some of your big
Lessons Learned From that

648
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,800
experience?
It's and what adjustments are

649
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:03,100
you making, you know, so far to
get prepared and being a better

650
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:07,500
position for 2023?
Yeah, first of all, just being a

651
00:39:07,508 --> 00:39:11,900
full-time head coach is going to
help me manage a game manager,

652
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:14,800
weak, man, at your calendar, all
those things.

653
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,500
But I think the two most
important things we learned that

654
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:23,600
we have to reteach and coach in
the preseason is we've got to be

655
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,200
able to battle through
adversity.

656
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,500
Much quicker early in the year,
bad things would happen.

657
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:33,800
We'd get in a slump.
It'd take too long to climb out

658
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,200
of it once.
We overcame it and we started

659
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,400
realizing it.
Hey just because we were down

660
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:44,700
14, nothing, nobody panic, just
keep playing man, you know?

661
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,600
And then as the season went on,
we couldn't close out a team,

662
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,400
you're up on Georgia, Tech,
you're up on NC State.

663
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,200
It's, you know, it's a Thursday
night, primetime game in

664
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,300
Raleigh, and we're kicking the
snot out of these guys, and we

665
00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:02,900
couldn't close it out.
We played not to lose instead of

666
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:06,800
playing to win and so those
things, Things are great

667
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,100
examples to really good examples
that I have to do a better job

668
00:40:10,100 --> 00:40:14,800
of as a head coach early on
being proactive with situational

669
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,000
football definitely.
Well you kind of touched on a

670
00:40:19,008 --> 00:40:22,900
couple of games.
What you just was talking about

671
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:27,300
there but not to put words in
your mouth but earlier when we

672
00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:31,600
were talking you said last year
kind of focusing on the defense

673
00:40:31,900 --> 00:40:34,600
you feel like it kind of held
you back from being the best

674
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,200
head coach?
Those games you just mentioned

675
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:43,500
what those a couple other games
where you felt like were

676
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:46,900
impacted by that.
You kind of being more involved

677
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:50,100
with the defense to be in the
whole head coach or the best

678
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:53,200
head coach.
I don't know that probably,

679
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,300
there was At least a minor
impact every week.

680
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,700
You know that, you know, being
that being a DC Under head

681
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:05,500
coach, you know, that was
preseason camp that was meetings

682
00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:09,500
at was that was everything and I
do think it was very valuable, I

683
00:41:09,500 --> 00:41:12,100
wouldn't do it.
If, you know, I needed my

684
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:15,400
footprint on that defense and
not that I don't trust the

685
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,900
coaches in that room, but I
wasn't hired here because I was

686
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:22,000
a great offensive play caller,
you know, I wasn't hired here

687
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,800
because of my looks, I wasn't
hired here.

688
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:27,100
You know a big piece of it was
the Offense, we played over the

689
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:30,600
years and so have I if I wasn't
going to get in there and

690
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:36,400
establish that and get a strong
foundation in that room, so I

691
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,900
feel very good about that but it
was time to step away and to see

692
00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:44,400
Chris call that game up at
Liberty and a great job he did.

693
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:49,100
And then to you know, the
freedom for me to be involved on

694
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:53,100
offense defense and special
teams for 60 minutes was

695
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:55,300
invaluable that much.
I do know Talent.

696
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:59,900
Opening difference in that game
of not having to be on that

697
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:03,500
defensive headset making
adjustments being able to be on

698
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:07,200
the offensive bench being on the
offensive headset with Coach

699
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,900
bone in the staff.
I mean it was just different.

700
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:14,000
It was different and I was I was
definitely better that day when

701
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,200
you said you weren't hired here
because of your looks but some

702
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,600
of the women do get a little
excited about your big ears.

703
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,300
So you might not want to cut
that anymore.

704
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:25,700
I don't know.
My wife has a love-hate with it

705
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:28,700
man.
An long as I keep it a little

706
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:30,600
bit trim.
She's good, they're keep going,

707
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,300
keep it tight, keep it tight
game.

708
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:35,400
Let me get gangly.
I mean, you talked about the

709
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:40,200
Liberty game a little bit us as
a fan, as a fan perspective.

710
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,700
Again, we watch this team.
We are pinned down with the

711
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:47,900
team, every, every every week
watching that Liberty game, it

712
00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:51,100
kind of seemed like the team put
everything together.

713
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:52,900
I mean, we were fighting.
Every like you said, we were

714
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:55,900
fighting every week.
We were in most of those games.

715
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:58,200
Either up and not able to hold
on with that.

716
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Liberty gang was a little bit
different.

717
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:03,700
It's like even the commentators
you kept hearing them, say this

718
00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:06,900
is what Virginia Tech football
is supposed to look like defense

719
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:10,700
turning into offense and running
the ball to close the game out,

720
00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:14,600
like going back and seeing that
game kind of did that make you

721
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,300
feel kind of where you want to
be as a head coach.

722
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:22,500
That's not what we played
complimentary ball that day.

723
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,000
You know.
We didn't play Perfect.

724
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,300
Yeah, we did.
I make big mistakes.

725
00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:31,200
We work through things they had
moments but we were able to

726
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,500
battle back and I thought we did
a good job managing the game and

727
00:43:34,500 --> 00:43:40,100
all three phases, you know.
It's you know to me it's a sign

728
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:43,900
of who we can be but certainly
not where we want to be.

729
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:48,500
You know we've got to be better
in all areas but it was nice to

730
00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:53,600
see that on display you know to
put a kind of stamp on.

731
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,500
Hey guys listen that's the
example.

732
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,500
Right?
That's the direction.

733
00:43:57,500 --> 00:44:02,600
That's our to we can be.
And then some I tell you what

734
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:05,700
the end of that Liberty game was
like the best feeling.

735
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:08,500
And I know it had to be as a
coach because when y'all got

736
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:12,200
that ball back out for that, if
you force that fourth down stop

737
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,700
and any offense went down the
field, you had guys blocking

738
00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:19,400
their butts off on the outside.
You know, got the I think Jalen

739
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,800
got the first down and you got
to go on Annie.

740
00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:25,800
I love that as a football fan
when you literally that other

741
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,100
team sits there and they have
their heads and because they

742
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:32,500
know I can't do anything about
that's a good feeling and you

743
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:35,200
know that game a lot happened at
the end man.

744
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,900
There was a sir.
Yeah, the strip's.

745
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:42,300
I I mean we Coach Bo and jumped
on the headset and said, hey, it

746
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:45,100
was third down.
We were in 4-minute mode which I

747
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:49,000
want to roll out and give us a
chance to get the first down and

748
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,500
close the game and start down.
I said, do it?

749
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,000
I said but he can't throw the
ball and complete.

750
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:55,800
We got to make them burn their
time.

751
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:01,100
Out a wide-open receiver or he
can't run for the first down.

752
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:06,300
Take the sack, take the sack,
they'll burn their time out.

753
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,500
The only have one left will punt
we pump.

754
00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:13,200
We get to strip sack, right?
We get the ball back.

755
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:16,800
I'm on the offensive headset.
I said, hey guys, the only way

756
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,400
they can win the game is that
they let us score and push this

757
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,300
thing to 0 t.
So if they're smart, they're

758
00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:24,900
going to try and help us in the
end zone.

759
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,200
So coach him.
Running backs up and sure

760
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,000
enough, that's what they did.
Yeah.

761
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,000
And you help ensure staff and
players did a great job because

762
00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:34,400
they almost tried to help us in
the end zone.

763
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,200
What just taking a knee?
We went down to make sure that

764
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,100
clock ran out, like, it was able
to awesome.

765
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:44,200
Yeah, I gotta run, man.
I got two appointments waiting

766
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,800
on me, and you guys have been
great.

767
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:51,000
I appreciate it.
We appreciate you coach.

768
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,300
Thank you.
Thank you, coach.

769
00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:54,100
We appreciate the time.
You have a good night.

770
00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:55,800
Listen.
Thanks for what you guys do it.

771
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,800
Means a lot for Hokies man
everywhere.

772
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,300
Okay, appreciate you.
Appreciate you coach.

773
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:05,200
You have a good low key.
And that was Brent price.

774
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:12,000
Folks, boys, man.
Real 100%.

775
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,200
I tell you.
You could.

776
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:18,700
It's kind of crazy, like, just
looking at how candid he is.

777
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:21,300
You talk with three guys.
He's only, you know, we me and

778
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:23,300
Curtis got to shake his hand a
couple times.

779
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,300
You know, back last year at the
at the tailgated at Hardy would.

780
00:46:28,300 --> 00:46:31,300
But I mean other than that, he
doesn't know who we are,

781
00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:34,900
probably right?
But he took, he took the time to

782
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:40,600
not only talk to us, but to be
very transparent about things

783
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,200
that happened.
Last year, things about

784
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,200
recruiting things about the
spring.

785
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,800
So, I mean, nothing nothing but
great things to say about how

786
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,100
coach pry is when he's when he's
talking to folks about the

787
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:54,600
program W until he's, you can
tell he's genuine and what he's

788
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,100
saying and doing.
So that's good and trying to

789
00:46:57,100 --> 00:47:01,000
bring people around the program
with that same same mind and

790
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,900
heart.
So you know that's We got to see

791
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:07,600
some good stuff happening from
that, you know, because of the

792
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,000
portal.
You got some people who didn't

793
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,400
come here and probably would
have never come here, unless we

794
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,400
got a coach like this and the
staff like this and they leave

795
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,400
their respective programs and
now they're hokey.

796
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,700
So absolutely.
I got my ass real quick question

797
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,900
because I was a little nervous a
little nervous when you're

798
00:47:28,900 --> 00:47:31,900
really nervous when he first
popped on like his we what we

799
00:47:31,900 --> 00:47:35,200
started chatting with him but
I'm It's a within just a couple

800
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:41,100
minutes just how he talks.
He just he just so genuine and

801
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:46,600
you just know like why is he
such a good recruiter how's he

802
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,000
get those messages across some
of those we heard in this

803
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,000
podcast that a little bit rough
because he's real.

804
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:56,300
Yeah I onion goes how to deliver
the.

805
00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:58,600
I think sometimes it's knowing
how to deliver the news.

806
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,100
Not necessarily what the news
is.

807
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:01,000
Right.
Right.

808
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,600
And so I mean sometimes if
Transparent with how you are

809
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,600
talking to someone, and you show
that, you know, you show that

810
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,600
you care about them.
But you have to accept the

811
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,700
realities of the situation that
we're working with here and I

812
00:48:14,707 --> 00:48:18,600
think he's able to translate
that pretty well in how he

813
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:22,100
approaches those conversations,
both with the players and how he

814
00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:24,200
interacts with fans and media
and things like that.

815
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,000
So beautiful.
All right.

816
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,900
Well boys.
That was fun.

817
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:33,700
We again, we thank coach Frey
for joining us today for this

818
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:36,800
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819
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,700
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839
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:41,800
Leveling up man, leveling up.
Maybe we.

840
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,400
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we did and let's go.
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