Reach For Excellence

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast with my partner.

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Brian, Sigler, I am Curtis
Wilson.

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Brian, how are you this fine
Thursday, evening.

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Man, doing good doing good.
How you doing over there in the

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West End, buddy?
Hanging in there, man, and what

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feels like an extremely long
week?

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We're wrapping that up tomorrow
with it being Friday.

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You know, at some baseball
tonight, starting this a little

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later than usual but you know,
it is what it is.

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How about you on your side of
town?

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Good man.
Started the week with a couple

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of doctors appointments or kind
of adjacent to that son.

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Had a dentist appointment.
I got my second second vaccine

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dose there, so started with that
no side effects for me other

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than like a little sore arm.
So I'll take It but otherwise

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been a good week, man.
Been a real good week.

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Very nice to hear that man.
Very nice to hear that sound

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like you've been adulting a lot
this week.

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Hell yeah, try my damndest idli.
Yeah, every week, it's adulting

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folks, stay young if you can.
All right well folks got a lot

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to get to today.
Obviously with the 420

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announcement that's going to be
our biggest piece tonight.

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But over the last few weeks
there has been some other topics

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as well.
I really appreciate all the

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listens on the Christina Garnett
interview and I think maybe the

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football program and athletic
department might have been

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listening.
There are some things that were

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discussed that were already
seen, but we'll get to that a

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little bit later but Brian,
let's start out right before we

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press record.
Last time we got a nice verbal

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commitment from Alex orgy,
that's Ashley Texas.

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Restore, we're 15 ranked Jewel,
threat quarterback in the

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country. 6226 he built already.
Had offers from Baylor,

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Michigan.
Houston as well as, I mean

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offers from Oklahoma and TCU
what you think of this Pickup

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Man of a quarterback second
quarterback of the class.

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You know what, I liked it a lot.
I feel like with with some of

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the transfer we had getting to
this cycle was necessary so I'm

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liking that we got got to in
already.

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I like this kid.
A lot reminds me of Patterson

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little Kewpie there, a little
bit, one more quote, but a

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little bit closer, in terms of,
like, polished throwing motion

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to Hendon, then QP there.
But still still raw.

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So he's going to need some work,
but sky's the limit in terms of

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his terms of his talent, because
he has that good blend of size

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and athleticism and a strong
arm.

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So we'll see how it's all
summer.

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The highlights from one of the
camps.

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He was that looks like he's
doing pretty good.

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Slinging the ball around there.
So looking forward to getting

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this campus and seeing what we
can do with them in this system?

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Oh yeah.
He had a very impressive Elite

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11 camps.
I don't Southlake Carroll.

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He was basically considered the
best fall athletic quarterback

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there, which is really good.
You know, whether you make the

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Elite 11, or you get like this,
Warden tells the guy, you know,

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we saw some of the pictures man,
he's built.

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He's one of those kids if he
polished in between now and the

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day he walks on campus, he could
compete because there's no,

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there's no, he's 230 pounds, his
legs are huge, his upper body's

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built.
What we like to do with

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quarterbacks.
He could definitely take it.

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Definitely good.
Definitely good pickup.

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Second Devon, Fair a little
different.

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So it's very Very interesting to
see how that all shape out now,

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weren't down done, yet.
In the state of Texas yet.

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Texas to DT is back everybody.
Haha, yeah, that's just a VT is

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BAC gone but not forgotten.
Go knock em dead but very

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interesting recruit here.
Johnny Dixon, the offensive

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guard at a Flower Bluff and in
Corpus Christi Texas, 88, 3

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star, the 13th, ranked guard in
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So again, as you get into the
offensive line, as you start

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getting into those teams, is
where you're starting to see

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guys, who are four star star.
He's borderline in it right now.

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Had offers from Oklahoma
Oklahoma State, Texas A&M.

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And one that really caught some
folks eyes out there.

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And I saw somebody mentioned
this Arkansas, Arkansas is

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coached by saying Pittman Sam,
Pittman was the guy who put the

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Georgia offensive lines together
the last three or four years for

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took the Arkansas job.
One of those things, somebody

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said is Sam.
Pittman offered him.

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You want a player like that?
I agree 100% with him.

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Brian.
Did you get a chance to peek at

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his State since he just
committed yesterday?

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I haven't got to look at it
bunch of his tape yet.

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But what I've seen from some of
the folks, some of the stuff

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that's been posted on social
media, looks like a perfect fit

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at guard, definitely a need
position in terms of the next

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three years.
In terms of building out the

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roster especially the way we've
been looking at the offensive

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line.
You still concerned about depth

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on that that unit over the
course of the next few years.

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So it's nice to get a guy in
there and with some of the As

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we're hearing about Jack's
sliding down, it potentially

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Center that.
That's some we're starting to

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fill in at least the interior
line over the next couple of

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years.
Potentially.

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So we'll see what happens if the
tackle position.

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And if we were able to bring in
another transfer or get some you

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know, High 3 and low for Star
guys in at that position, going

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forward, but getting a guy like
Johnny Dixon is going to

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definitely help.
Been playing that Texas

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competition.
I'm not sure about the league,

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whether it's a high-level
competition league but there's

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pretty much no you know, no
slouches out there in Texas.

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So and having a guy that used to
be in the in the 757 area to

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kind of understands the program
and what it's all about.

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So good pickup.
I will say though I'll throw a

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little a little criticism on the
end of this year, you know,

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right now we're treating A guy
like Johnny Dixon, this kind of

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like Top Flight level of the
class where he really should be

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like the meat and potatoes of a
class.

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Yeah, true.
I'm with you.

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Johnny Dixon's a damn good pick
up with what he does and where

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he ranks, but he is not that.
He should not be the Crown Jewel

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of the class that is no
disrespect to him.

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So everybody jumping them down.
Is it good?

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You got two of these commits.
Are they solid players?

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Yeah, but this is kind of what
happened last year, you're still

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looking for the crown jewels.
You're still looking for the

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more Elite guys who put at the
top of your class where you have

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guys like Johnny who are really
good players.

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Now could Dixon an orgy, Step Up
intentionally be you know, as

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you know, sort of the crown
jewels.

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Yes.
They both have the build,

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they're both playing and leagues
so they have the potential but

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you don't want to be thanking
this early on.

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Guys like that.
To be your crown jewels.

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Yeah.
You know we're still talking

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about, you know, late, April
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We don't want to count guys that
are high three stars that

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they're going to get a bump up
to that that four-star range.

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And if they get the bump your
they're going to be like in that

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Fringe area.
Anyway they're just going to be

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on the other side of the of the
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So that's still nothing to
necessarily.

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Hang your hat on at the same
time, they're good.

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Solid pickups and should be good
contributors to the program

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going forward.
But if we want to build that

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recruiting momentum, we're going
to need to start Landing more of

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the four-star guys, to kind of,
you know, beat our chest a

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little bit and show the rest of
the ACC that we means of

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business, on the recruiting
Trail.

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Absolutely, absolutely.
Let's turn real quick and

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probably in a few weeks here.
Guys, were probably going to go

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a little bit more in-depth into
spring practice.

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Again, things have been going on
in our lives that kind of

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prevented us from keeping a good
heart.

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Grass, what was going on over
the next few weeks?

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We'll start getting into that
but one piece of news that came

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out.
Very disheartening, was Chiang,

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Rai stores ACL and you feel for
the guy played of the Villanova

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wanted to ascend to take that.
Step Up in competition, you get

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more eyes on him.
Potentially, as you put good

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numbers up at Villanova go to
Virginia Tech, he won playing

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ACC type schedule and I put up
numbers may be at looked at in

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the NFL came in so late last
year and kind of started

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flashing at the end of the
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But it just stinks because you
saw what he did in that UVA game

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as a stick mover and you want a
guy like that?

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You want a guy that it's make
easy terms, where the

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quarterback, you know, What do
you think bro?

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Yeah, I think he did a really
good job of that later in the

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season, getting some separation
from the the corners and the

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secondary that he was going up
against having a guy like that.

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Just even if it's coming in to
give tray a few series off here,

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they're working in the slot.
If he needs to give you some of

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the other guys, a break there,
if he could just got it, I've

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gotten some some extra reps
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I think he would have This a
lot.

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But you know, that's where
that's where the stinks here,

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man.
Because, you know, he definitely

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could have been a high-level
contributor at a position where

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we don't have a whole lot of
experience death.

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You know, I feel like we got a
good number of wide receivers in

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general, but we don't have very
many guys at this point, that

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you can count on like that.
We know we can count on because

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we've seen them do it and we're
getting less by the day and

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That's getting a little scary
that you know, beyond the first

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three or four guys who we who
were going to count on.

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So that's concerning and Chang
are going down with that injury

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definitely makes that even more
of a dicey situation.

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So hopefully we can either get a
guy in the portal to Shore that

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up a little bit or some of the
other guys step up this fall.

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Absolutely 100% more people have
got to step up and you know it's

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one of those places.
We have a lot of bodies there

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who can go out and provide that
help it'll be very interesting

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to see.
All right, Brian, let's let's

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one last piece.
We hit a little bit with

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Christina.
The shortfalls of the athletic

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department. in the football
program to put on paid only do a

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spring game, you don't want to
bring people to the city, the

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town of Blacksburg complaining,
you're trying to be safe, you're

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trying to get it over with Now,
that the spring is one thing we

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should have at least had a
spring production.

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Do you some sort of something
stream somewhere should have

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happened?
Whether that's a practice that

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had cameras, whether that was an
actual scrimmage where they just

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stream on the ACC Network or on
hokey Sports, whatever was there

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needed to be something
especially if you.

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Do you regret to announce this
fucking Reach For Excellence?

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Campaign like masses, what?
What better?

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I mean you talked about it that
you were originally planning to

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roll out of spring game last
year, get some Buzz behind the

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program going into this,
offseason going to this little

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stretch where there's not a lot
of news, get some Buzz.

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So people open their wallets
even more freely than they did

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based on the announcement.
Like it's so easy and the thing

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that stinks for me is that you
had like that's that's all

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fanbase stuff, right?
So most Over to my right now was

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engaging fans and stuff like
that but there's so much that

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could have been done like
getting recruits to look at

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this.
That really could have helped on

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the trail and not let so it's
not just a donor thing, it's not

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just a fan thing.
This could have really helped on

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the recruiting Trail as well
saying.

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This is what we're doing.
I mean UCF had like the hashtag

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jerseys that they had out there.
Florida state did something.

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I mean there's there were so
many unique ways of having some

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sort of spring even if you
didn't have.

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Have people in the stadium at
the tailgate, you know, while

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it's in the stands and shit like
that.

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Like there's so many other way
to generate buzz and donations

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and recruiting that could have
been used that weren't I just

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see it as an opportunity, I
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couldn't come to the game.
It's a missed opportunity to do

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all those other things.
Well, it's, again, it's where

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whip your bullshit and back in
December.

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We're going to make more access
you made.

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No access.
You may know accent, like we got

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a repackaged version of the hard
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practice live footage.
But again, we're still not in

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Christine talked about it and we
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we're not getting the reciprocal
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We're not getting the
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We're getting very.
Here is the stuff you requested

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and we're either take it or we
don't there's not that let me

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get you involved in the program
feel like you're a part of it.

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It's what she said.
It doesn't feel like a fan is

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running.
It feels like a corporation.

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Here's what you get.
Here is what you get here in

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this.
Like, screw that we wanted to

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see a game.
And some of those like will

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recruit one look at it.
Well, if you package it right,

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they will.
If you package it, where you're

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talking to players where you
know what they should have done

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smart went super silent on it,
recorded it talked to like the

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players on the sideline and say
hey hey two nights from now.

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Check out a SEC network, our
stuff dropping, I say some

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things on.
There are current guys talking

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to recruit our coaches saying
things to recruit again.

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Everybody is been on it and you
know what, I think it's

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partially Just for one day,
didn't want to have a spring

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game in in this was his easy way
out.

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He could say, in the presser on
this having people here have

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been here for five years.
None of them have ever been

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recorded.
You had to be in person.

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We showed up back in 16, it was
a great time, great atmosphere.

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So again, if you're with
Babcock, And this is the person

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that's going to continue to be
in charge, he just lay the

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hammer and say you're going to
do this shit.

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What if I don't want to then you
can get your ass out of the

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fucking program.
See you.

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I'm at some point, just got to
take the little victories that

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you can have.
That are really, they're simple

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on your and, you know, people
will say, oh well, it costs

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money to put on the spring game.
Again, whether it does or not,

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whether it does or not, You
could still have recorded a

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practice, you can still have
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that wasn't broadcast on the ACC
Network where you have to bring

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in officials where you have to
bring in media Crews and shit

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like that.
You know that they pay officials

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to come in for every scrimmage.
So what's the fucking

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difference?
Our history history, it's not

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the money, it's not the money
loser that like the, the

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naysayers were claiming it was
that the I'll leave it at that.

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I'm not saying you wouldn't be
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I just simply think regardless
of what that red is and knowing,

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it's not that much.
It would have been worth it to

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get it on.
Either the network on hokey,

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Sports scrimmage, practice,
whatever the fuck you want to do

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to be it is a chance to get free
exposure to your program in.

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The best light possible and you
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That is a failure of the
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the athletic department in my
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Boom.
All right, let's jump off that

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because we could go on for days.
All right, real quick.

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Our nice package defensive line
feature with Coach wheelchair on

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it Morel Pollard Mario Kendricks
I loved it.

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I think they did a good job.
I like the kind of the realness

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of the discussion and kind of
letting the players say what

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they want to say.
And then I feel like coach

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tearling kind of wrapped in a
bow.

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Well, and kind of related it
back to stuff.

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You see on the field.
I thought it was informative.

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I liked his energy that he
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sessions and I liked how guys
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accountable on the practice
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I thought that was.
That was a good representation.

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So overall, no complaints on
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I just feel like we need more or
something different to go along

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with that.
If that was in conjunction with

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more, like fan friendly events
and things like that, perfect no

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complaints.
But that is being the, the

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deepest dive of impact that fans
are getting and not getting that

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reciprocal thing that that
that's where it kind of kind of

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hurts for me.
So that's really.

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My only complaint is that this
is the most, we get, not the

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content itself, it's the most.
We get the content itself is

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solid, the content itself should
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That's a nice little package to
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But there's more.
Yeah and won't more.

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We're not satisfied with little
packages because little package

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is just like, okay great.
I got to know a little bit more

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about Barrio see him on the
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I want more, let's move on
braund obviously the

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announcement the reach for
excellent announcement that came

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with 420, a 400 million-dollar
in flux.

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Into the athletic department,
know it.

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But let's comment on something
real quick.

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Before we get into it, they
definitely put that in the

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morning on purpose.
Because if they put in the

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afternoon, everyone was going to
be fucking baked.

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I mean, Tommy, how's it work?
For a while?

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Inside circles like something's
bigs coming, it's going to

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change the landscape of the
whole you know, the football

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Department significantly, the
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Really big and it's things that
since we started this podcast,

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we've called for in their hands
out on, you know, Twitter.

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I don't social media, you know,
questions being asked by the

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media and kind of all finally
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And we're going to kind of hit
it in piece by piece goes.

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We're going to start with
comments from whipped machine.

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Me Tim sayings then wit, look at
the castle renovation and then

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get into the football stuff.
Let's just go ahead.

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Look Start with the sayings.
He said it working set.

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It only Athletics are important.
Were you shocked?

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I wasn't shocked that he thought
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I'm shocked.
He said it out loud because

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anybody that looks at any data
piece about Virginia Tech knows

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that Athletics have driven a lot
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In the community and in the
school, if you don't see that

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you're fucking blind, it was
nice.

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That he said it, he did point
out that like some of the

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efforts with this started with
the boundless impact campus-wide

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fundraising campaign, that
began.

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I guess they were discussing it
as far as four years back, they

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launched it in Earnest and early
2019.

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announced at the spring game.
20/20.

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And then obviously covid
happened and things shut down in

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mid-march.
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put on hold, which was probably
the right move, but I think in

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the interim, we didn't realize
how much Goodwill the program in

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general, would lose in the
interim.

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And I think that kind of put put
put, put the impetus on them to

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get this out as sooner as soon
as able and get this ball

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rolling.
And I mean they've talked about

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some of the things that were
part of this.

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We're starting to be put in
place without a formal

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announcement last year like some
of the additional recruiting

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positions, but it was good to
hear Sans acknowledge that and

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it was good to hear what we had
to say after that, it's very

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true, the biggest piece of it
that you know 400 million but

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the university itself is going
to be increasing its money to

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help.
Help move for jigna Tech into

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the operating.
Having the operating money of

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the top third of the programs in
the ACC and you start moving top

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third of the ACC, you're
essentially moving into the top

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25 in the country.
And that's the, that's the big

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piece.
We're going to get into a little

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bit because wit gave the number
and I don't think me and you

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were shot because I think we
looked last year at some of the

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numbers.
And it was like, we need to be

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higher because we looked at
other peoples.

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But to have Tim Sands, kind of a
kind of say it, you know, say it

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that it's important.
All the sports are important.

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All the sports are doing well.
He kind of even, you know, kind

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of having kind of gloss over
like football that have the best

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butt.
We're we're football now needs

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to become the cash cow that it
is so but on sayings you got the

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Amazon, you got it rolling.
Now you're dumping money to what

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is the most visual?
Aspect of your University while

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program in the basketball
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Now, let's jump over to wit.
So many different places where

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you want to go on this?
Brian.

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So, anything I'd say, let's
start with the goal for the, the

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football budget, and the total
operating budget for the

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athletic department.
So, we're talking about, looks

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like a over 25 million dollar
increase in the operating annual

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operating budget over the next,
what four years that's playing.

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Yeah, and the goal for the
football budget is for a 30

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million increase over various
elements of their budget in that

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same time frame.
So that's not necessarily

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operation.
So if you're doing the math,

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obviously 25 million, increase,
30 million increase.

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Something's a job in there.
The 30 million is spread over

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various elements of the budget
operations being one of them.

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So some part of that 30 million
chunk is in the 25 million.

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That's going, that's the goal
for the, the total athletic

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department, but they emphasize
that football is important.

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They are going to invest in it
going forward.

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Um, but the other big thing we
that we talked about was you're

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bringing it to the level of
bringing everything with leg

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department, but football in
particular to the level of the

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peers in the conference and I
think that's something that we

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had been harping on a lot is
that, you know, we're in the 40s

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on most of these things, in
terms of the financial

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investment lower on some ends
higher on others.

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But average somewhere in the mid
to high 40s in these These

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things.
And we need to be at least at

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that, top 25 level and hopefully
overachieve, you know, based on

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the, the financial input that
we're putting in there, and can

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take the next step and compete
for ACC championships again.

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And he did say it compete for
national titles.

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Absolutely.
Well, he compared budget-wise,

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ACC of the top dogs or where you
are with Clemson Florida State

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and he did mention Notre Dame
Louisville and he's assuming

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Miami, they are on operating
budget of 130 million dollars.

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This brings us up to 125 and
where we were wants eight to ten

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in this sort of category or now
probably going to be positioned

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probably right at five.
Yeah.

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Anywhere between four and six
depending on one year depending

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on on various things.
Yeah, you out.

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Raise one year, you go higher.
But the point that he made was

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we had been down there, you
talked about in the 40s, we're

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talking about in the bottom half
of the ACC Finance wise and

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still overachieving still during
the latter years of Frank, when,

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you know, having gone to the
Sugar Bowl, winning 10 games,

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Early part of the winter are the
ten, winning the nine win

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Seasons doing that on a low-end
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And we do get the basketball
program and how it's done.

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You know, with Buzz.
Now, Mike on a lower-end budget.

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That's damn impressive.
He's damned impressive takes.

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Look at 16 and 17 and look at
what buzz and Mike Young's done

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with basketball and said, we
were competing like that and we

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didn't have near the amount of
funds.

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That's insane.
You know, go do that to Clemson.

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I have a feeling one compete
that well, but, you know,

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another thing that he said,
Brian and me and you kind of And

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kind of talked about it a little
bit.

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Was what essentially saying his
goal is for Virginia Tech to

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become The role model program.
If we wrap up our pants and we

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said here, and we were talking,
what are the role model programs

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or programs top football and
basketball, do your Olympic

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sports are some of the best.
First one that popped in my head

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was Florida.
And the first one that popped

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into my head was Michigan.
And you think about those

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programs, those are very good in
football, but they're very good

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in basketball.
But baseball programs have made

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00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000
the College World Series in the
last five years.

452
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:44,600
Each have Olympic and other
sports Florida volleyball.

453
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:47,100
Huge go.
Michigan has some of their

454
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,000
Olympic sports.
This big top to bottom, they're

455
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,800
competing in everything and
believe it or not.

456
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,500
You think about the way we are
right now, less football.

457
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,200
That's the way the Hokies are
looking basketball.

458
00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:02,300
Rank this year.
May the tournament baseball

459
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:04,600
ranked.
Well on its way to making the

460
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,200
NCAA Baseball.
Tournament Wrestling top 10

461
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:14,000
program won the ACC, Jules what
for all Americans at.

462
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:22,600
Indoor track and field men's
championship, softball shrink

463
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:25,300
soccer's.
Making that you want to talk

464
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:28,100
about building it the Lesser
programs, are they?

465
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,600
And I know something mean you
talked about Brian that maybe

466
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:37,500
people don't agree with what
with did, but maybe the goal was

467
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:42,300
I've got to fix this.
Get the baby ready, get football

468
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:45,300
and basketball, ready?
Because now with the renewed

469
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:50,400
interest in those non-revenue
Sports, there's going to be some

470
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,600
big donor.
You talk about it, Brian.

471
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:56,700
There's going to be some big
donor at lausanne or maybe they

472
00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:59,800
ran it Tech and they wouldn't
have a significantly successful

473
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,200
career that says, well, how much
money does indoor track need

474
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,100
this year?
200,000 dollar, operating budget

475
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,200
rights.
Check he go.

476
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,700
That's what what gets to do when
you look at the foot.

477
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,700
Ball money.
You don't need to write a check

478
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:15,600
for indoor track.
Somebody's covered it already.

479
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,900
It definitely gives him more
flexibility with the budget to

480
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:23,100
put more money back into
football.

481
00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:26,800
If other sports are more
self-sufficient and we're not

482
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,900
talking, we're not talking about
the non revs, all of a sudden

483
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,400
being 100%, you know, liquid
with with their operating

484
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,400
budget.
Like, they're still going to

485
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,300
need The money that's coming
from football operations, to

486
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:49,600
fund, various aspects of their
sport but the less that has to

487
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:54,000
be pulled from the revenue that
football generates and put into

488
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,400
these non-revenue.
Sports, the more, the revenue

489
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,700
that football generates gets to
stay in football.

490
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,900
And that's a good thing for
long-term.

491
00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:05,200
And that's a good thing,
especially when done in

492
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:11,600
conjunction with these budget
increases with these incentives

493
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,600
and goals for the program,
before we move into those five

494
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,800
pillars for the football
program.

495
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,200
The, let's talk a little bit
about the castle renovation

496
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,000
plan.
What do you think of it buddy?

497
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,300
It looks awesome.
I mean, it really does.

498
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:31,900
It is, you know, it's taking a
piece of architecture that was

499
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:38,200
built, late 1960s, early 1970s,
it's keeping the architectural

500
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,900
Integrity, they're bringing it
into the 21st century.

501
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:47,900
You know, we talked about it's
not going to be one complete

502
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:50,700
overhaul because he really wants
to the team to stay there.

503
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,700
I think that's very smart.
I think, you know, trying to

504
00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:58,900
move it down to Salem Civic
Center or over to the Roanoke

505
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:02,900
Civic Center.
While you're doing this, don't

506
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:05,700
do that.
You've got a buzz going with

507
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:06,900
Mike yelling right now.
Yep.

508
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:13,100
Keep the heat not only the fans
engaged to being on campus.

509
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:15,500
Keep the students engaged to
being on campus.

510
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:20,300
Now that keep that home court
advantage in place to, because

511
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,500
people do not like to play in
Castle.

512
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:27,200
No, they don't.
They don't, it is that I've

513
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,300
never been in Castle.
Goal will be to go probably in

514
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:32,100
the next few years during the
renovations.

515
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,700
But again, those buildings the
way they're built, it's just

516
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,400
like think about using the free
throws about the way it's set

517
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,000
up.
It's an awkward free.

518
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,900
Throw shot to the student
section.

519
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,600
They show that behind picture in
here, like me.

520
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,100
That is the depth perception
with the fans kind of Cohen up

521
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:51,700
down.
Very weird tough place to play

522
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,000
now.
Brian, we talked about the four

523
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,200
year phase.
Me and Brian.

524
00:32:57,300 --> 00:32:58,700
What?
Babcock, if you're listening.

525
00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:01,300
We want to tell you how this
phase needs to be done.

526
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,200
All right.
He's won.

527
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:12,300
He's won.
Completely redo the boxes.

528
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,800
Nothing else in Phase 1, micron.
Redo the boxes that was my first

529
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,100
thought.
Like I said, I don't know to

530
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:25,700
what degree, any sort of
exterior modifications going to

531
00:33:25,708 --> 00:33:30,300
be need for needed for this, but
getting the boxes in there does

532
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:37,000
a big thing which is you get
more money for those seats,

533
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:43,000
which thin then be put back into
the budget for the further

534
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,400
Renovations that are needed to
be completing this phase.

535
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,200
So if You get the boxes done,
then things start paying for

536
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,700
themselves, a little bit more.
Oh yeah.

537
00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:54,400
And you're also keeping donors
who are writing the biggest

538
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,300
checks, happy, you're giving
them a new home.

539
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:02,100
Take their clientele into you
have potentially other big money

540
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:04,400
donors to come in and say, hey,
yeah, I'm giving someone.

541
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,600
So and this is my box.
What do you think of it?

542
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,300
I want one.
Hope you're gonna have to pay

543
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:18,199
more money bing bing bing bing.
The second piece of it that we

544
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:22,600
discussed would be.
Like, for me it's like school

545
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,100
will change the Aesthetics on
the inside next.

546
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:31,400
And why say the Aesthetics the
new scoreboard, the new walkways

547
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,800
you're seeing and not the
seating per se is because bring

548
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,300
people in there and show them
this all the new stuff that's

549
00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:43,699
happening.
Probably new concessions, the

550
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:49,199
new scoreboard, the new visual
stimulation because it have

551
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,400
someone who is looking at
purchasing season tickets in the

552
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,800
future.
You're selling them at selling

553
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,200
them about this is this is
awesome.

554
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:01,000
Atmosphere is great, this looks
good.

555
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,400
What do you say?
I agree with that because as

556
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,800
much as the seat, I put my ass
in his important, some of that

557
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,900
other stuff is more important in
the short term.

558
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,900
I feel like because most people
going to put their ass in

559
00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:17,600
whatever they enjoy, whether
whether it's uncomfortable or

560
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,900
not, whether it's tighter than
they like whatever.

561
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:23,200
The problem with the physical
seat itself, baby.

562
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:26,600
If the Other stuff going around
them stimulates them the way

563
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,100
they want to.
They're going to more or less be

564
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:33,100
happy.
For less be having an experience

565
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,800
upgrade without the physical
seat upgrade wall without the

566
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,200
fit because if you were to take
someone who is interested in

567
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,900
basketball and the boxes are
done in the seats are done

568
00:35:46,900 --> 00:35:50,400
great.
Just looks like an old stadium.

569
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:53,900
It's not that in potentially
purchase taken.

570
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:58,500
Third of already said it.
It's the seat then deceit

571
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:04,100
because you've kept a big money,
happy you've got something that

572
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:06,000
interest people that brings them
in the building.

573
00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:12,900
Now, I'll make them comfortable.
And then lastly Brian me and you

574
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,100
our prior conversation couple
days ago, then you do the

575
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:19,100
outside work but the outside be
the last piece.

576
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:24,100
Again Aesthetics are nice.
Aesthetics may help a little bit

577
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:28,200
with recruiting and just general
feel of campus, but the people

578
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,200
that are going that are paying
money to go to these games.

579
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:34,900
I think care more about what's
happening inside the walls than

580
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:37,700
what's happening outside.
Absolutely.

581
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:40,600
And I think what's currently
going on with the basketball

582
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:46,700
program. you know that kyiv
testing the waters, but you

583
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:52,600
still feel like even if he
doesn't come back Top 25, top 30

584
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:57,300
team tournament team if Keith
comes back but like adding storm

585
00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:59,900
Murphy and potentially and the
kid out of use.

586
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:07,000
USF, if Keith comes back.
I think we're ranked like 12 to

587
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,800
open the season.
I'd say, somewhere in that range

588
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,900
and somewhere in the 10 to 15,
for sure.

589
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,000
That's kind of what I was
begging their so that's going to

590
00:37:17,008 --> 00:37:20,700
be big for that program and
that's going to, you know, it'll

591
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:24,300
be, it'll be interesting to see
how that team reacts with those

592
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:27,000
type of expectations but on them
because that's something that

593
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:31,000
you've over your essentially
been a year early year, 1 and

594
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,200
year 2 under Mike young.
Let's see with these

595
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,900
expectations how the team reacts
and what they do because I think

596
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,100
the sky's the Limit in terms of
what they can achieve, they just

597
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:47,000
got to go and do it and make
sure they come together and play

598
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,500
the play.
The type of basketball that they

599
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:51,400
need to at a consistent level
because consistency has probably

600
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,800
been the one thing that has dog.
The team, the last two years is

601
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,400
that, you know, they'll have,
you know, three three, good

602
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,800
games play really, really well
up to competition.

603
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,100
And then have a game where they
play down to some lesser

604
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:10,200
competition, or have a game
where they just and for whatever

605
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,800
reason, the ball just won't go
in the damn hoop and shrimp and

606
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,800
they lose a game that they on
paper should have one and if we

607
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:25,000
can get those games minimized or
eliminated then that's going to

608
00:38:25,008 --> 00:38:28,400
be really big for that program.
Is that means, then you're

609
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,500
looking at You go 500 against
those top tier opponents or 500

610
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:36,200
or better against those top tier
opponents and you're looking at

611
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,800
a higher rank in the ACC
tournament.

612
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,300
You looking at a higher rank
going into the NCAA tournament

613
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,100
and then you can make a try to
make a run depending on how

614
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:51,100
those matchups lineup.
And true, again, great things

615
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,900
for the basketball program.
Great thing for the athletic

616
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:57,000
department in general.
But as we've already mentioned

617
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,700
before, this is a massive boost
to the football program.

618
00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:05,200
Probably something that should
have been done quite a few years

619
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,100
ago.
You're getting the resources

620
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:12,400
they need.
Football which stimulate the

621
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,800
local economy up to 100 million
dollars?

622
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,400
A year, getting things that need
to get back to the level of the

623
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,600
expectations.
That assist fans, you know,

624
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:29,800
going on, 20, 25 years expected
to be and what we're going to go

625
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,000
through.
Now guys, is we're going to

626
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,500
break down the five sections
that were specifically discussed

627
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:39,100
with the dollar amounts and kind
of, not only how we think is

628
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:43,500
going to help but little Maybe
our visions of what we hope they

629
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,400
do.
Brian, let's start with the

630
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,900
number one.
We talked about getting to

631
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:50,900
recruit Sara Lee.
Let's talk about recruiting

632
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,300
recruit staff, man.
That's the big one.

633
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:57,200
That's the one they LED off
with, and that's the one that,

634
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,400
you know, they did the whole
silent roll out a little bit

635
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,400
starting last year with some of
the new positions looks like

636
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,700
they're looking to grow that
even further as I heard

637
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:11,900
something about them currently
Looking to fill eight positions

638
00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:17,300
on that across that staff going
into 2021, that's going to be

639
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:21,900
big because recruiting is
definitely the area.

640
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:26,900
I think that we have fallen the
most short in terms of the

641
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:30,600
controllable aspects or at least
the Quasi controllable aspects

642
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:37,000
that really have Money plays a
role, but not as much of a role,

643
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,500
but getting positions.
Like this can highlight the

644
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:43,100
areas that we've done.
Well, in, in the recruiting

645
00:40:43,900 --> 00:40:48,300
Trail and minimize some of those
negative aspects that we've seen

646
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:51,000
over the few years.
So, getting those hires is going

647
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,100
to be big and seeing how that
grows.

648
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:58,800
And like I said, the Highlight
they made was full-time staff

649
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,100
versus volunteers and that's
really big for those on campus

650
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:06,700
visits, that's really big.
We're staying in contact with

651
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:11,700
these recruits on a more regular
basis and I'm looking forward to

652
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:16,100
seeing that pay some dividends
whether it's with this coach or

653
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:18,600
the next coach.
I feel like this is going to be

654
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,300
the biggest impact for the
school.

655
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,800
Well, you know, it can be it,
absolutely is and they're

656
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,200
talking about, it's five million
dollars over six years, you

657
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,800
know?
And that's the X additional.

658
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:31,900
There's already a small budget
there.

659
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:35,200
You probably might guess it's
Really going to make the budget

660
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,200
a million dollars a year, maybe
a little over maybe slightly

661
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,400
under.
But anyway, getting to the level

662
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:47,400
of a top-25 program and it's the
position you talk about the pain

663
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,500
positions versus volunteers and
don't get me wrong, this is no

664
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:57,700
knock on the volunteer, but when
it's your job to do this and get

665
00:41:57,700 --> 00:42:00,900
to put it on a resume or you're
trying to work your way out of

666
00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:04,200
this, in the history of
collegiate.

667
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:06,000
It potentially professional
football.

668
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:08,700
Having a paying job is very
important.

669
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:12,500
Having something you put on your
resume, saying what you did is

670
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:17,000
super important.
So, you know, again, we're

671
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:23,500
getting we need to be now This
was announced y'all know me and

672
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:26,500
Brian's creative aspirations
kind of went crazy.

673
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:29,200
And we were going back and
forth.

674
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:34,700
Like how would we set this up?
If this was Brian and Curtis is

675
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:37,900
brainchild, how would we set
this up?

676
00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:41,300
And I told Brian, the one piece
I want.

677
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:46,700
Is I want essentially a
relationship staff, client

678
00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:51,300
manager staff.
He's a recruit manager staff and

679
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:55,800
these people are not necessarily
worried about the game though.

680
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:00,000
They worried about every other
aspect of that kid's life,

681
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,700
they're worried about how
they're doing in school, you

682
00:43:02,707 --> 00:43:06,000
want to get to know the parents,
the siblings, the aunts, the

683
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,300
uncles, the trainer's where
they, you know, what are their

684
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:12,200
interests?
What do they like to eat?

685
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:17,100
What's going to be their major?
I want a division like that.

686
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:23,900
So when a four-star recruit out
of the beach is coming up for a

687
00:43:23,908 --> 00:43:28,000
visit, there's someone who knows
that kid's life in and out and

688
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,000
can give Cliff Notes versions to
Heather, his primary coaching

689
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,200
recruiter.
He's you want the person that's

690
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,200
assigned to that recruit when
they walk off the bus on

691
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,500
Saturday?
Telling them man.

692
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:44,500
Y'all kick the shit out of
Bayside like yeah.

693
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:49,100
Like you want them to know
what's important to them.

694
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:56,300
Know what buttons to press and
understand that, which aspects

695
00:43:56,300 --> 00:44:00,500
of the recruiting process are
important to them and who in

696
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:03,800
their sphere of influence is
important to them and key to

697
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,800
their decision-making process
solutely.

698
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:14,400
Now, Brian, you've obviously had
another side you want.

699
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:19,800
Yeah, I want I want, I want guys
that are dedicated to looking at

700
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,400
the, the game tape, the football
stuff.

701
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:29,300
The the stuff I like the sitting
in front of a video screen for

702
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:33,300
four hours and hours and then
Pat filtering that information

703
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:38,300
and passing it on the coaches.
So they can better evaluate the

704
00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:42,000
talent that's coming in.
In watching as much Camp tape as

705
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,100
you can watching as much your
game tape in Season watching

706
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:49,500
anything, you can get your hands
on practice tape from the high

707
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:53,200
school, practice tape from the
seven-on-seven like anything

708
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:58,500
that you can grab and watch and
see the intricacies of a

709
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:02,300
recruits game.
So that not only is the coach

710
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:06,000
able to say, yeah this guy's a
scheme fit or this guy's a skill

711
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,300
fit but also know so they can
start getting Their minds

712
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:13,900
turning.
Once I get this guy in, what can

713
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:15,900
I do with him?
Because I know his skills that I

714
00:45:15,908 --> 00:45:20,600
understand his skills at a deep
level setting them up for a good

715
00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:24,100
experience.
Once they're on campus, once

716
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:26,800
they're in practice, once
they're in the weight room, once

717
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,500
they're in the conditioning
room, all of that stuff is

718
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:35,900
important.
It's true and like in Brian

719
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:38,800
mentioned this you but like, the
way I see this is you're going

720
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,800
to have.
Obviously you're going to have

721
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,500
your lower level.
Like to me group managers you're

722
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:50,400
recruiting analyst your game
analyst to me, you would have a

723
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,400
director, you setting the big
vision and then to like

724
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,300
co-directors or operations
managers for each side.

725
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:03,500
And they're going to do
partially, do the rolls, but

726
00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:05,900
they're also setting the
expectations.

727
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,900
It's a hierarchy, it has to be.
And I don't think having just

728
00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:14,200
one primary director of
recruiting give everybody their

729
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:16,500
Direction.
I don't think that's the way to

730
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:19,000
go.
We'll see.

731
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,600
LeBron, let's move on obviously,
recruiting important.

732
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,300
I'm interested to see the number
of recruiting positions that we

733
00:46:27,300 --> 00:46:30,300
can count a year from now on the
website.

734
00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:33,400
Mark that it's go back and do
it.

735
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:38,100
But Brian, what it?
What a deal, wu-tang's and song.

736
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:41,200
Say Cash rules, everything
around me.

737
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:47,200
Dolla, dolla bills.
Y'all the assistant coaching

738
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:53,800
staff Cool.
Is going to be in the course of

739
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,800
a six-year span going up over 10
million dollars.

740
00:46:58,900 --> 00:47:02,100
And some people will say, well,
who gives you shit, you know,

741
00:47:02,500 --> 00:47:04,100
there's other people that can
pay them.

742
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:08,900
Well, here's the thing.
About coaches, sometimes get

743
00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:14,700
comfortable, like all of us. if
you have a shooting star who is

744
00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:17,900
killing it, not only on the
recruiting Trail, but

745
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:22,700
potentially also as a positional
coach Where it felt like the

746
00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:26,000
last five or six years, you
know, I always felt like, you

747
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,500
know, there's certain times
people leave, you got this kind

748
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:34,200
of money and strokes check.
Give raises when they're needed.

749
00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:37,400
If you need to move on from a
guy, you can afford to bring in

750
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,600
a top-flight candidate to fill
the role.

751
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,600
You can finally play.
Pay your offensive and defensive

752
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:49,400
coordinators top-level money.
You can because you can feel

753
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,300
comfortable going to a million
dollars for a coordinator.

754
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:57,300
If you've got the flexibility to
still be above 250 for pretty

755
00:47:57,300 --> 00:48:01,400
much every position coach and,
you know, average in the 100

756
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,000
range per position coach.
And that's what this budget is

757
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,300
going to afford, and that's
going to be huge.

758
00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:10,700
That's going to be very huge.
And that that to me other than

759
00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:13,500
the recruiting is, you know.
They said there's not a

760
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:16,700
hierarchy here.
I absolutely believe top to

761
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:19,100
bottom.
This is the where they want to

762
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:22,600
focus first.
If the money's there they I

763
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,200
think they're going to increment
all aspects of this in terms of

764
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,600
their rollout, whether its
facilities, which you haven't

765
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:33,300
gotten to yet the other aspects.
But but you know, if you're

766
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:36,400
putting chips in a bucket,
they're putting two or three

767
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,700
chips in the first two or three
buckets, when they're putting

768
00:48:39,700 --> 00:48:43,200
one or two in the last two
that's just all the way I'm

769
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,000
seeing it.
You damn right.

770
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:50,500
Um and you know think about the
assistant pool and think of it

771
00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:54,000
those out there.
Think of it this way.

772
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,600
We've been on record saying, we
don't feel great about this

773
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,600
upcoming season, just don't hope
for wrong, but we hope we're

774
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,100
wrong.
We hope we are proved wrong at

775
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:07,400
the end of the year.
But now with this type of

776
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,400
assistant, coaches budget, when
you go out and pay, we're

777
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,700
clearly paying top dollar for
their head coach.

778
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,400
Yep, I can highest paid in the
ACC.

779
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,900
I think he is a top 20.
Paid head coach at have to go.

780
00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:22,000
Look if not, he's borderline in
it.

781
00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:26,200
I want to save 16.
But I could be wrong with that

782
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,700
but I think it's top 20 so he's
not getting Global money.

783
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:35,300
We know we can pay what it means
is if we do have that bad season

784
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,700
and we do have to terminate the
current head coach.

785
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:46,000
When you go out and go look for
that next head, coach, your lane

786
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,800
to say.
Whatever you want for your

787
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,400
assistant coaches, we're going
to be able to get it done and

788
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,700
with the recruiting staff,
however, you want this built-in

789
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:58,600
looking, we're going to be able
to get it done.

790
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,500
And you're talking about opening
up candidacy of maybe.

791
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:06,800
We'll here's the three or four
guys were looking at to say.

792
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,900
Listen, we can look at a lot of
different potential head coaches

793
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:17,400
and they can look at the
absolute pipe dollar assistance.

794
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:28,100
I Braun the other one, the
pillar number three which isn't

795
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:30,200
trailing too far behind if the
first two guys.

796
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,400
Three drops.
Three coins in the bucket.

797
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,600
This one's probably getting too,
but the football, operation

798
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,700
staff.
Which Brian kind of sits there

799
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:42,300
and says, where was this 20
years ago?

800
00:50:42,300 --> 00:51:10,100
When I graduated college?
But if you're talking again,

801
00:51:10,100 --> 00:51:13,000
it's 5 million, I'm sure there's
a small budget there.

802
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,200
Again, you're talking about it
getting upper close to a million

803
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:22,400
dollars a year.
It's going to be big and I know

804
00:51:22,408 --> 00:51:24,600
we talked about it a little bit
on our quick hit.

805
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,400
But you know what these
essentially are.

806
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,000
He's like you got quality
control on on the lower end

807
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,900
that's usually going to be the
younger guys that you're

808
00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:38,300
bringing in and then you've got
the offensive and defensive and

809
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:40,900
special teams analyst roles that
are usually for the more

810
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:45,200
veteran, either former coaches
or guys that have been in those

811
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,800
systems for a long time, that
have seen how the good programs

812
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,800
Work have seen things top to
bottom and can can kind of catch

813
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,400
those blind spots that coaches,
may be missing whether it's at

814
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,200
practice or whether it's things
going on behind the scenes.

815
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,800
So I think all of that is
important having those more

816
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,000
youthful, guys, learning the
ropes.

817
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,900
But also making sure that if
things are running the way they

818
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:13,200
need to from a quality
standpoint and then also the

819
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:19,200
analyst making sure that
Everything's going smooth from a

820
00:52:19,300 --> 00:52:23,300
practice perspective from a
coach's prep perspective.

821
00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:27,900
I know that Jerry kill.
Did a lot of that when he was

822
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:30,900
here we need like two or three
of those guys.

823
00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:37,200
On each side of the ball, not
just one or two in the whole

824
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,000
program and this type of budget
you can do that.

825
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:44,000
Yeah.
I mean you're talking about when

826
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,600
you getting close to probably
probably close to them.

827
00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:51,200
In and you don't, let's get a
couple guys on each side of the

828
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,800
ball and maybe one other
analysts to either cover special

829
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,600
teams or just kind of be a
catch-all.

830
00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:59,700
Yeah.
You could probably have five big

831
00:52:59,700 --> 00:53:04,300
big guys probably making
anywhere I'd say 90 thousand two

832
00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:07,400
hundred fifty thousand two based
on their resume and then you

833
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,200
talk about the what you saw at
the Quality Control guys guys

834
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,500
who are fresh who are trying to
get their first start in the

835
00:53:12,508 --> 00:53:16,700
business and giving them a
reasonable salary and to come To

836
00:53:16,707 --> 00:53:20,100
your program.
You know, I'm interested to see

837
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:23,600
what both through this, and the
recruiting will do to the ga

838
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:29,800
rolls because now our they're
still going to be GA rolls or is

839
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,900
it more?
I think they'll be GA roles but

840
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:35,600
they're not going to be
essentially quasi, assistant

841
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:39,800
coaches anymore.
I mean, so many of those roles

842
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,200
have become.
All right.

843
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,500
Well if you're a ga you're
almost like assistant position

844
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:51,600
Coach in training, that's more
or less what it's been.

845
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,400
And I think that's going to turn
into more of a traditional GA

846
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:02,700
roll, kind of prepping you for
your first step into either.

847
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:05,700
The quality control role or a
position coach role.

848
00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:09,900
Whatever comes available based
on your skill set and what you?

849
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,300
What you bring to the table.
Yep.

850
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,200
All right, the fourth pillar was
essentially Player Development

851
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,800
at two million.
Something that sounded really

852
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,900
emphasized.
It caught my ear was essentially

853
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:26,100
getting these guys prepared for
Life After Football.

854
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:33,600
Life After College and and I
think it's I think it's such a

855
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:37,800
good thing when you think about
it because Brian you were an

856
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,000
athlete in college even though
it was D3, you guys had

857
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,100
mandatory study.
Hall's, you had to keep certain

858
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:47,600
gpas you had.
I'm pretty sure you had some

859
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,900
tutors if you need it.
You have people on you all the

860
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:57,000
time, the say we're going to
take that guy, you know who I

861
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,700
mean?
He's busting his ass, you know,

862
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:03,300
getting up at 4:30 probably, you
know, going training knows.

863
00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:05,700
Here's what he's got to be his
meals, taking them out of that

864
00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:07,600
element and just put him into
the real world.

865
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,800
That to me.
I can see that as a culture

866
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,400
shock.
Absolutely it absolutely man for

867
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,800
sure.
And and if you're talking about

868
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,700
getting these guys prep for
life, after it's such a good

869
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:23,600
thing and I'm sure it's going to
be so much more about it in.

870
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,400
You're already here in the name,
Sam Stewart a lot, I know she

871
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,100
doing stuff with alumni, I'm not
sure if she's going to be

872
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:32,700
involved with this directly, I'd
have to look up her title.

873
00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:35,800
But what's your, what's your
biggest?

874
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,300
Take on this brand.
Yeah, sofu called it out

875
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:41,600
directly and mention Sam Stewart
by name.

876
00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:44,100
Apparently, she's been
absolutely killing it since

877
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:47,700
getting to Blacksburg, so that's
awesome.

878
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,700
And he emphasized that as being.
Probably the thing he wants to

879
00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:57,000
grow the most, in terms of the
impact on the players, and he

880
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:02,000
kind of described it as like,
not academics and not Athletics,

881
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,900
but everything in between that
these student athletes deal with

882
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:10,700
As being both players while
they're at the University and

883
00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:13,100
then kind of what happens in
that life after realm.

884
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:16,700
So getting that develop, I think
is going to be really, really

885
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:20,700
great.
And I think that's, you know,

886
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,100
quality of life for players is
important and that that stuff

887
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:27,900
like that can keep players from
entering the transfer portal,

888
00:56:28,300 --> 00:56:31,000
because not everything is just
about playing time and not

889
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,000
everything is just about, oh,
well, I'm far from home, like,

890
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,700
sometimes it's other stuff.
Times.

891
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:41,700
It's those little things that
may not may be falling through

892
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:44,900
the cracks.
And this is I think the overall

893
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:50,700
thing here with with, with point
three and four, is that a lot of

894
00:56:50,707 --> 00:56:54,100
this is taking away the blind
spots.

895
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:56,800
I feel like the quality and the
analysts take away the blind

896
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,000
spots for the coaches.
And I think this also fills in

897
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,900
some of the blind spots of the
coaches have, in terms of how

898
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:07,100
the players feel, how the
players are.

899
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:11,300
Are doing outside of the
classroom and outside of the

900
00:57:11,300 --> 00:57:13,600
locker room and outside of the
stadium.

901
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:16,800
And I think that'll that'll help
things going forward for that

902
00:57:16,900 --> 00:57:20,000
player quality of life.
Absolutely.

903
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:23,400
And to me, the first four
pillars, you got my blind spot

904
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,400
with coaches.
What this is doing for the

905
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,900
coaches, obviously, is giving
them more money.

906
00:57:28,700 --> 00:57:33,200
The other three are giving them,
your job is to coach football.

907
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:35,900
Is your job to be involved in
the players.

908
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:36,900
Like?
Hell, yeah.

909
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:40,800
But can you see every single
aspect of their life before they

910
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,700
get here or while they're here?
No, you can't.

911
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,900
They're filling in that Gap.
So, the coaches can go out and

912
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:50,300
coach, and know, and having this
Player Development type stuff.

913
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:54,300
Hey listen, he's had some rough
classes lately and keep that in

914
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:59,500
my mind if I see him unfocused.
Yeah, I mean, the best coach in

915
00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:06,000
the world.
Kill me that guy 285 players all

916
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,800
the time.
Nope, the more support you can

917
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,300
have in that area, the better.
It's true.

918
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,400
Very true.
And again what that helps them

919
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:24,300
is I'd say this produce, not
worrying less about that more

920
00:58:24,300 --> 00:58:26,500
time in the film room, more
time, prepping.

921
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:31,400
More time for jet sweeps.
The short side of the field.

922
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:41,100
Ordinal, 14, quarterback, power
on Third, and 20, because those

923
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:43,900
are like those plays.
Now, if I see them after

924
00:58:43,900 --> 00:58:45,700
everything of this is
implementing the next year and

925
00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:47,500
we still have the current
coaching staff.

926
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:49,600
It's like, well, at least you
thought more about it this time,

927
00:58:51,300 --> 00:59:19,100
more about it.
In the next few years.

928
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:22,400
Whether it be the stadium
itself, Beamer born, they're

929
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,000
going to need upgrades simple as
that.

930
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,700
And To go ahead and say, well,
we're going to keep eight

931
00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:31,100
million over here.
In case, we need it right now

932
00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:36,000
who's to say that this type
fundraising effort, Doesn't

933
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,900
generate more money than it
needs.

934
00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:45,000
You know, then they well we do
need some to update that but we

935
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:50,200
got an extra 3 million so we can
go ahead and move this over to

936
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,200
the recruiting and the assistant
coaches into the analytical

937
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:58,200
budget into the Player.
Development budget to get more

938
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:02,600
people to help those guys out.
So, what I think it's good that

939
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,500
they're putting in here because
Now, it's not.

940
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,500
Completely on.
The big donors to come through

941
01:00:12,500 --> 01:00:17,000
for some of these projects you
can incrementally build up each

942
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,200
year, so you're saying, all
right, well, we're increasing a

943
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,400
little bit here, that's
earmarked for facilities.

944
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,700
And then as you're getting
there, obviously facilities are

945
01:00:25,700 --> 01:00:29,600
not something that Happened
right all the time, right?

946
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:33,100
It's not the building is
ongoing, but the fundraising

947
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:38,000
needs to be ongoing for whenever
we're ready to put those capital

948
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:42,000
projects into motion.
And I think this helps towards

949
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,500
that.
We're if we see we're falling

950
01:00:44,500 --> 01:00:47,500
behind in an area we can
actually move on it instead of

951
01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:50,700
having to say, all right.
Well let's save another few

952
01:00:50,700 --> 01:00:53,400
years and hopefully a big donor
will come through and we might

953
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:57,000
be able to do this in five years
that five years becomes Maybe

954
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,000
Two or three years now because
you plan for it a little bit

955
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,400
better, you've taken that into
account as you're going along.

956
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,600
Then.
It's very true and you know, and

957
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,600
that's kind of the way this to
me is set up is they're looking

958
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,700
to the Future.
They're not, they're changing in

959
01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:19,200
a way the way they look at
fundraising for the Apple

960
01:01:19,300 --> 01:01:25,000
apartment, and it's going to go
back to the way, the Hokie Club

961
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,700
has grown in the last five or
six years and that's still part

962
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:32,000
of it.
The Hokey drive for 25 is still

963
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:38,100
a big part of this initiative.
But by saying this, I think what

964
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:40,900
it's saying to people, this is
how we're investing your money

965
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:43,700
in.
This is our goal, we're no

966
01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:48,400
longer trying to do what, what
did we're not trying to be

967
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,600
contenders.
We are trying to be Champions

968
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,500
and that was a in.
You kind of heard him with

969
01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:00,000
Force.
Like the expectations are no

970
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,900
longer we're not in, it's almost
any we're not fucking around in

971
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:07,300
any sporting.
We expect to be good.

972
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,900
We expect to be competing.
The expectation is to be eating

973
01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:14,300
for that conference title in
every sport.

974
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:18,400
Every year we're not going to
have a down Year, we're not

975
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,000
going to have a program that's
out of competition.

976
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,500
We're going to be there every
year and I mean I think that

977
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:27,700
that's a great vision and I like
that and I like that we're

978
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:33,100
approaching this from, we're
going to set the standard We're

979
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:37,300
going to set the standard of
what a good program looks like

980
01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:41,700
in the ACC.
And that's a big step forward

981
01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:46,600
for this because I feel like
it's kind of been the way it's

982
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:52,200
been before, it's kind of been
like the difference between Like

983
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,800
stepping up or doing box jumps
like so instead of gradually

984
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,000
will like B flat for several
years then were like oh we got

985
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,700
to catch up and then flat fold
over use.

986
01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:05,100
Oh we got to catch up a little
bit.

987
01:03:05,900 --> 01:03:09,200
We're not doing that anymore.
There's a climb now and there's

988
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,600
there's an Aiming point and I
feel like that having that

989
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,000
aiming point for the program is
going to be good.

990
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:20,100
Regardless of who's the coach in
a couple years we're setting up

991
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:25,800
whoever Is leading these
individual teams for Success.

992
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,800
It's very good man.
I'm crying made.

993
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,200
You put your Peter Griffin hat
on because there was something

994
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:41,700
done during the presentation,
just go ahead and even

995
01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:48,100
gentlemen, Ron Ziegler.
Why why we cut the Q&A, why we

996
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:52,300
got the live feed for the Q&A?
You already got the laugh feet

997
01:03:52,300 --> 01:03:55,300
set up.
It's already there.

998
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:01,200
Just leave it on and we listen
and we hear it in real time.

999
01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:06,400
And you know what, you're not
shortchanging the journalists

1000
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:11,700
there because I'll here and I'll
still go out there and read what

1001
01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:14,000
my name is Oleg.
Writes about it or what David

1002
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,300
teal writes about, I'm still
going to do that.

1003
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,100
Well, it's not stopping me from
digesting their content.

1004
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,000
It's not stopping me from
enjoying what you're putting

1005
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:24,500
out.
There.

1006
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:29,000
I will, we watch the Q&A.
We jumped on together, and

1007
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,600
watched it.
And we also read everything that

1008
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,600
was written about it.
Whether on Twitter or in local

1009
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,000
wild occasions about the Reach
For Excellence campaign.

1010
01:04:41,100 --> 01:04:43,700
We will digest it.
Don't hide it from us,

1011
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,700
especially when we see when we
watch the both of us, we watch

1012
01:04:48,700 --> 01:04:50,800
the retracts on presentation
live.

1013
01:04:51,700 --> 01:04:57,200
And then today was today, right?
All right old, you know, you've

1014
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,100
been a weak man, it's been a
week.

1015
01:05:00,100 --> 01:05:05,200
Every day feels like to, but
we're sitting here watching it

1016
01:05:05,500 --> 01:05:08,800
and we pause and say, well, how
the bleep did you just keep the

1017
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,200
damn thing going?
You're using the same camera

1018
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,100
angles.
You're not showing the press and

1019
01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:17,600
ignore the crowd.
You're literally showing this or

1020
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,200
it off shot.
When someone's asking the

1021
01:05:19,207 --> 01:05:20,500
question.
You're not doing anything

1022
01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:21,300
different.
Aunt.

1023
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,200
It's dumb.
It's just dumb.

1024
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,700
So stop it.
Stop it.

1025
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,900
There is officially now, you
know, Brian, we were nice few

1026
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:36,600
weeks ago about, we understand
if you can't live streaming but

1027
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:37,800
tell us what it is.
And guess what?

1028
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,300
They told us when the Fuente
thing was, which is great for us

1029
01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:43,500
because at 10:00 we got to watch
it or you know Twitter follow

1030
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:45,500
the interview.
Didn't watch that one folks.

1031
01:05:45,900 --> 01:05:50,700
Life's crazy but You've now
shown us.

1032
01:05:50,700 --> 01:05:54,600
It's really not that hard to do
a live stream so you have no

1033
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,000
more excuses.
You know who you are.

1034
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:03,000
You know who you are and much
like his Twitter post, he timed

1035
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:10,500
the release of the live stream
because it ran about 2/3 of the

1036
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:13,200
way from into Mike do Sollux.
First question.

1037
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:18,400
And then the live stream, Of
course you did.

1038
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:23,100
All right, Brian, anything
breaking on the Twitter sphere

1039
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,900
or in general, by the way, we
will not be here next week,

1040
01:06:28,900 --> 01:06:30,100
folks.
We're going to be probably doing

1041
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:36,700
it every couple weeks now.
But next week is the draft best

1042
01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:39,300
of luck to all of the Hokies in
The graft.

1043
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:45,400
Brian's Crossing his fingers
that certain guy slips down the

1044
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:51,400
board little bit for the The
officer now officially because

1045
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:56,000
of you know, the small back
surgery that came to follow yet,

1046
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,300
I know that fingers crossed that
he can slip out of the first

1047
01:06:58,300 --> 01:07:03,700
round and since we only
essentially have about 75 roster

1048
01:07:03,700 --> 01:07:06,100
spot, who's me five roster spots
for the Niners?

1049
01:07:07,300 --> 01:07:10,500
I'm really hoping that he slows
far enough, we just take some

1050
01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:17,000
capital and go up and get him.
Okay, I'm while we probably

1051
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,400
could use an extra cornerback.
I don't think he's the best

1052
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,800
scheme fit for the system that
we have.

1053
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:27,600
So I'm not hoping the same thing
in general.

1054
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,300
I hope he makes it in the first
round just because that's good

1055
01:07:31,300 --> 01:07:35,400
for the program and good for him
obviously because that means

1056
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:39,600
more money which is never a bad
thing especially when it comes

1057
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,900
to football players on their
first contract.

1058
01:07:41,900 --> 01:07:47,700
So, Hope that's good for him.
I am hoping because the money is

1059
01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:50,400
not that big of a difference
between where he's projected and

1060
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:55,000
where we are.
That Christian Dara saw does

1061
01:07:55,900 --> 01:07:59,500
sink to the low 20s, and we can
scoop him up there because we

1062
01:07:59,500 --> 01:08:03,400
need a tackle, whether we end up
slugging him in right there at

1063
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,000
left or doing some some
switching and put him in it,

1064
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,200
right.
I think he's going to be good.

1065
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,000
I'd be happy with him on either
side of the line there.

1066
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,900
So yeah, it's me.
Very true lady.

1067
01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:21,000
Yeah, I'm like, you know,
depending on what happens at 3

1068
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,899
You might be, you might want to
drive over here.

1069
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:35,600
I'm going to go on the curve of
your house, crying.

1070
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:42,000
I'll bring liquor.
Hi, fap to my, I'll swear, as

1071
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:45,700
y'all know, I'm a 49ers fan and
all I keep hearing is Mac Jones,

1072
01:08:45,700 --> 01:08:47,000
Mac Jones.
He's to fit.

1073
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,500
He's to fit and it's like this
kid's.

1074
01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:56,100
Got my body.
Here's my shirt off right now.

1075
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:57,600
You probably couldn't tell the
difference.

1076
01:08:58,899 --> 01:09:00,200
And they're talking about
public.

1077
01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:03,100
Listen.
We were at 12 and we took him, I

1078
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:07,399
have no issue.
You do not trade that much draft

1079
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:13,200
Capital to get at what is best a
Kirk Cousins at best?

1080
01:09:13,500 --> 01:09:19,399
At is his ceiling.
His floor, restore any backup

1081
01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:23,600
player, any backup quarterback
in the league and do we need to

1082
01:09:23,608 --> 01:09:25,899
remind, folks?
Worker cousin was taken.

1083
01:09:26,500 --> 01:09:29,100
Even if you want to argue Kirk
Cousins was taken too low.

1084
01:09:29,100 --> 01:09:33,100
He was still taking well past
pick number three.

1085
01:09:35,700 --> 01:09:40,700
Other issue is With mac and this
is me.

1086
01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:43,700
I don't know what he is.
A lot of people say, oh, he's a

1087
01:09:43,700 --> 01:09:47,500
great processor, it's really
easy to process when no one's at

1088
01:09:47,500 --> 01:09:49,399
your feet.
And when your guys are getting

1089
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:52,300
wide open, it's really easy to
process.

1090
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:57,700
And so, he's essentially going
to be playing with what this

1091
01:09:57,700 --> 01:09:59,900
year is probably going to be
four guys taken in the first two

1092
01:09:59,900 --> 01:10:02,500
rounds to offensive actually 50.
I'm sorry.

1093
01:10:02,500 --> 01:10:05,000
I missed an extra player there.
How could I?

1094
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,700
He's literally was playing with
five.

1095
01:10:09,400 --> 01:10:16,400
Sensual day, 1464 off the board.
Yeah, it's insane and they were

1096
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,800
all positions that directly
affected him.

1097
01:10:20,500 --> 01:10:23,600
Throughout the running back, a
left tackle and an interior

1098
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:28,500
offensive lineman. so think of
it like this, what he was doing

1099
01:10:28,500 --> 01:10:36,100
at Bama is like, if you took If
you took the Top Flight players

1100
01:10:36,300 --> 01:10:42,300
of an NFL offense and they got
to go against the scout team all

1101
01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:46,600
the time.
Or against the rookies on

1102
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,600
defense all the time.
Like, you're taking these

1103
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,300
high-level players and going
against guys that are either

1104
01:10:54,300 --> 01:10:57,900
inexperience, not used to going
up against this level of talent

1105
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,000
or just not quite atletic
enough.

1106
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,400
And that's, that's what Bama was
doing against pretty much every

1107
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,100
piece of competition.
And all that Jones had to do was

1108
01:11:09,100 --> 01:11:14,800
like, oh, he's open and I'm not
under selling the processing.

1109
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,600
I'm not under selling the Reeds
that he was making, but I am

1110
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,200
saying that.
It's a hell of a lot easier to

1111
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,700
make reads fast when guys get
open.

1112
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,800
It's true and my my other word
with him.

1113
01:11:27,900 --> 01:11:31,300
He doesn't he has an average or
slightly above average.

1114
01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:33,900
Arm his athleticism.
Isn't there?

1115
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,900
There's people here, are like a
47.

1116
01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:40,100
Do he friend like or not?
I've seen that kid run, man.

1117
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,800
Any 40 and at least a tenth to
it.

1118
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,500
This year at least certain
situations.

1119
01:11:46,500 --> 01:11:52,400
You had two tenths.
But everybody keeps saying

1120
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,900
schemes He's skiing fit and I'm
really hoping it's one of the

1121
01:11:56,900 --> 01:12:04,300
other three quarterbacks
because, you know, everybody's

1122
01:12:04,300 --> 01:12:10,300
like well he could be braiding.
This is sorry.

1123
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,800
Sorry, I didn't mean to laugh
that out loud.

1124
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Let me dig this year.
How many number one receivers

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were on that team like true?
Like any other team they have

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been a number one.
Receiver three Mike Evans.

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Chris Coghlan.
How many upper left one tight

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ends that he have?
That would have been starters on

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any other team to re-create OJ
Howard.

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Yeah, I always forget OJ Howard.
How many potential starting

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running backs?
Did he have on the team this

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year?
At least 23 23 by the end of the

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year, well, the mid great
offensive lines now, A ranked

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Fifth and they were the fifth
run best line of the league.

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It's where the defense ranked
top 10 6.

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He's like, Tom Brady.
Do you know how tough it is?

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To get the amount of talent I
run?

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You got anything else tonight?
Big guy.

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I'm good, buddy, I'm good.
We got our NFL dose in there.

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We had to because we're not what
we might be Skyping or on

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Discord.
Layer may be on Thursday, so you

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can hear me car or something.
But that is going to wrap up

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this episode of The Boundary
Corner podcast.

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I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.

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