Raising the Bar

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And welcome back to the boundary
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It's been a little bit of while,

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but a lot of stuff has happened
how we feeling tonight.

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Feeling good man.
Feeling good.

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Got a new job getting off
earlier kids and wife got me

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doing more stuff around the
house.

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There you go, still feeling good
man but you don't work yet.

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The honey do list growing
feeling good man, I love her.

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First of all huge, congrats to
that on tally man.

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You better tell them the so long
about looking for something that

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fits like your life with your
son and your kids.

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When you tell us about this man,
you told us like some of the

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benefits.
It it's great because you know,

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we all know how it is man.
And It's lovely that you have

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that opportunity.
It's also lovely for us because

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we're going to talk more the
podcast.

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But tonight, you know y'all it's
going to be a lot of fun, right.

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We've had this man on multiple
times and for the last 11 days,

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David Cunningham has been living
out of a suitcase between

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Seattle back.
The Dulles and then instead of

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driving back to Blacksburg, he
stays in Dulles and flies back

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to Dallas.
Bring him on because the

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question, the first question I
have for David as you pull him

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on here, when did you actually
get back to Blacksburg?

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Because you told us, you left
the Thursday before the sweet

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16?
When did you actually get back

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in Blacksburg this week?
First of all, I appreciate you

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guys having me on.
I got back Sunday at 4:00, so I

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was gone for 11 12 days.
So I mean, amen, that's they

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went to the final four.
It was, it was a treat to cover

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the sweet 16 and the elite eight
in Seattle and then to get to

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cover for Virginia Tech in the
final four.

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And in Dallas that was really,
really special.

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And, you know, they play good
basketball, they play good

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basketball when they played in
this in the Blacksburg

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sub-regional when they were one
seed.

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So it played good basketball,
your 31 and 5?

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Went to the final four, for the
first time in program history.

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Nothing to be ashamed of it.
All I would say probably the

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second greatest 14th export
season ever, so it pretty

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impressive all around and it was
it was a treat to be part of it

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just so happened that it took a
whole lot of travel on my part,

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but Coast-to-Coast Cunningham.
Yeah, let's talk about it first.

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Let's talk about the sweet. 16
up in Seattle, man.

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And it was, it was, you know,
for for pretty formidable, foes

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there too.
Nasir who the program is seen

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earlier beat in Knoxville and
across.

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It wasn't gonna be Ohio state
with that.

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Unbelievable press and defense,
they have or the Juggernaut,

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that always is Yukon.
So, just take about that those

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first couple games AV attendance
with the fans and just the way

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the team played in those two
games, how impressed where you

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to see they hadn't been there
before.

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And it didn't look like that.
Yeah, well, I think one of the

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things, first of all, you
mentioned the fans, I thought it

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was a good showing.
A lot of a lot of Virginia Tech

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fans, you know, and I was
talking to some people including

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very some wind assure.
You guys know he flew up from

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from from La.
He flipped to Seattle to come.

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Watch.
Virginia Tech play.

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There's a good crowd from
Virginia Tech fans but there was

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also a good crowd just from
everybody else.

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In Seattle, the locals, it's a
great woman sports city,

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obviously, they had the Seattle
Storm there, it's great, local

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sports city period but they
especially love their women's

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sports, you know, a Subaru who
was in attendance, I thought it

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was really cool.
I mean, there was essentially

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sold out arena for every single
game that was played there,

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except for the tech game on
Monday night against Ohio,

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State.
Not, that was a little bit tough

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because Monday night, all the
people that were covering Ohio

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State, Fair of Virginia, or I
guess all people are recovering,

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Iowa, and Louisville, and ever
be on the other side of the

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regional, along with UConn
Tennessee had already left.

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There will be two teams there,
so, but it was really cool

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atmosphere.
The Arena's phenomenal, As far

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as the games are concerned, you
know Virginia Tech.

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I've never been on that stage
before but they never thought

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twice about it.
The moment was never too big for

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them.
They played really well against

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Tennessee, you know, I think in
both games against Tennessee,

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against Ohio State there were
moments where things could go on

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South and they buckled down and
kind of stuck together.

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And that's what they've done all
season and they fought through

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it and against Tennessee, you
know, that was when the

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volunteers cut to Lon.
One late in the second half and

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they kind of turned things
around then scored a couple of

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big baskets lockdown on defense
and wrote out the wind first

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Elite eight appearance in
program history and they play

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press happy, Ohio State and
income, pretty much completely

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dominated that game.
You know, Ohio, State LED for

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some moments here there.
But never felt like Virginia

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said, wasn't in control of
either game.

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Really maybe a little bit when
Tennessee had some momentum but

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you win two games and get The
final floor so special.

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And again it was, it was a
really cool moment and a lot of

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the families were there for the
Virginia Tech players and I was

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cool and kind of tech fans there
just to see that happen.

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They put they played really good
basketball, and I don't think

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they never doubted their ability
to get there.

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So many other people did.
And I think, I think that kind

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of made it even more special.
The fact that they were the

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ones, he, they always knew they
had the ability to get there and

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Some people looked at him and
said, you know, they're not

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historically a women's
basketball school and they just

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said we don't care and they went
on to the final four and I think

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that was a pretty unique part of
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Yeah.
The movement never seemed too

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big for their.
Definitely seemed like they were

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playing for each other and kind
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That can he broke sit laid out
for each each opponent there and

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I think the fact that the moment
never got too big for them and

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that they stuck together and
kind of trusted that process

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definitely help them out.
Out and it's incredible.

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When you look at how the, you
know, the the matchups played

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out there and they you had
Tennessee, which you know, a lot

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of history.
And then you looking at, okay,

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either hiyo State, you know,
they've got some horses and you

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also have, you know, you come on
that side of the bracket with

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their history and it's just,
it's incredible.

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The eyes that got put on
Virginia Tech, women's

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basketball, that have really
been there before.

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If y'all seen the eating with
Monday night did but the late

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does a late game slot, 2.78
million That's insane, that's

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higher than some of the football
games this year.

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And I know the product will get
to that later in the product

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everything.
And then, you know, we talked

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about down Friday night.
I mean, I said and watched it

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here.
I'm here in the man cave would

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get the big TV and the kids want
to watch a movie and that's

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fine.
I got watching the game.

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Either rating was almost 4
million people like Brian said

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it sighs, right.
How do you keep bringing more

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people to the program?
How do you keep bringing more

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money?
Go to the national championship

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in wrestling?
Go to the final four in

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basketball and Friday night, you
know, against LSU.

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I mean, it hurt, I mean, anybody
who's a fan of the team, know it

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hurt.
But watching that game, I mean,

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the physicality at which LSU
played in, which the refs, let

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them play.
And I will say, let them because

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there were quite a few, in my
opinion, maybe I'm Homer, there

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were quite a few times where it
was Dammit fouls, that weren't

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called and I think tally, Brian,
y'all both can same day that as

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well.
Everybody's playing, if you if

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you're playing a physical team
and they're not getting called

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fouls, it's immediately in their
favor of.

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However, the game Flow goes even
if yes, we did have a lead going

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to the fourth, but I'll throw
this in there real quick just

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thinking about some of the, some
of the AFC Championship games of

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yesteryear where the Colts are
playing the Patriots, and

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they're just LED them Corners
bug the receivers, and it kind

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of reminded me of that.
Because the Colts in that time

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frame, were very much, a finesse
type offense in the Patriots

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were very much a we're going to
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We're going to push you around.
We're gonna whatever the rest

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will let us get away with.
We're going to do and it kind of

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felt like that that type of
mirror.

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They're looking at the
physicality that LSU brought to

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the table and I mean no fault of
them.

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I mean, if they're going to let
you play that way and you've got

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the ability to go for it.
Yeah, man.

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It mean Besides everything that
we're talking about, we got to

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give a got to give a shout out
to Kenny Brooks.

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And, and the girls man because I
see me know, all of us on

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Twitter, we see that we see the
hashtags, and the means, and all

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types of stuff conference candy.
And, you know, it seems like

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through the whole season.
Everybody was waiting on them to

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falter waiting on him.
No, you don't make a mistake and

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they didn't, you know, they ate
the whole season.

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They were solid basketball.
Team, a really good basketball.

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All team, you know, to go win
the conference to go and get a

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number one seed to get to the
final four.

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It's just like, like David said,
that the moment was never too

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big, you know?
And when you get into a game

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like that, you know, I'm kind of
on the other side of it, I love

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to see if I'm a watch women's
sports man, like women's

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basketball.
I love to see them.

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Let them be physical.
You know I'm saying because

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they're athletes, you know,
people think also warming,

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they're not supposed to do this
or not supposed to react this

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way.
Way we've seen all the hoopla in

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the news.
Like just let them their

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athletes and we're watching them
play, let them play.

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If a man did it, you would have
nothing to say about it.

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It's let them play, you know, so
if that's what we're doing, let

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him play.
So I think again, the moment

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wasn't too big.
Virginia Tech was definitely,

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right?
What they needed to be.

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We let one slip away in my
opinion, but no fault to the

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coaching staff and the girls man
that played a young ladies, they

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play they played a great game, a
great tournament, and I was I

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was proud to watch him play.
They let me ask you this.

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This was your first final four
coverage.

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Give me the field because that
Arena looked jam-packed.

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It looked loud.
Not only from the LSU side but

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from the text as well.
What was it like your their

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courts?
I'm assuming Courtside?

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Okay, Courtside I know sometimes
they pick y'all up an awkward

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spot.
So yeah, no, I mean it was just

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cool environment man.
You mentioned the just I

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Eyeballs.
I mean, they were almost 10

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million people that watch the
championship game between LSU

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and Iowa.
That's how you continue to grow

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the game, you know, even when
for those people who don't like

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Angel Reese Angel, Reese
FaceTiming, Lil Wayne after LSU

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wins stuff like that is how you
grow the game, right?

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Kam Chancellor and Brandon
Flowers, showing up to watch 14

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Tech, like that's how you
continue to grow the game.

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And yeah, I thought the arena
was The re in Dallas is really

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cool Mavericks and Stars Arena,
really really great crowd.

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And again, Virginia Tech was 10
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national championship game, and
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LSU was just better.
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mentioned a tally multiple times
this year in the past where

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where I don't think Kenny Brooks
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that next step.
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They never really Blinked.
So many people were like, oh,

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Virginia Tech's gonna gonna lose
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Well, they went out and won the
ACC Championship anywhere number

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one, see, they want 15 straight
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that ended up winning the
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So there's only so much you can
do there, and they played some

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really good basketball along the
way they were fun to watch.

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And, you know, now you recruit,
you know, obviously, Elizabeth

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Killian Georgia hamor and Kayla
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I'll come back.
That's to all Americans.

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Starters to attend that we just
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solid core to recruit to and
you're recruiting you're

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pitching them on.
Hey, we just went to a final

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four.
You know who wants to, who wants

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to go try to win a state
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we have the final four
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historical year, honestly kind
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I don't know if it's really set
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just how amazing that season
was, it's hard to get to the

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Sweet 16, let alone the final
four and And you know, the

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Hokies beat some really good
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accomplished a lot of really
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Yeah, absolutely.
And like you said, the news of

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King and kitley in a more having
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season.
It's you go out there and you

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get that core.
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I mean, I know we're a finesse
team David but is it looking for

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a couple physical bodies that,
you know, next year, you play

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LSU is, you've got the, you got
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your inside present?
Is it looking for someone who

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can be a little more physical?
Do you think that's what Kenny's

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going to go with?
Or you think he's going to try

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to find what's been working?
To get him to 31 and 5 this

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year, which is just, you know,
tell us, tell us all, we're

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running 28 plus games.
The next five years, women's

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basketball, women's basketball
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Yeah, I think it's interesting.
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Okay, he's done a good job.
I mean, first of all I don't

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know if you guys know this but
but they've got four top 100

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recruits coming in.
They've got they've got a

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recruiting class coming in but
Kenny's done.

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A good job with the portal in
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Anyway, came on a trailer and
Taylor sold to players who had

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big roles for Tech this year.
Came in and transfer portal this

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year.
And last year, the Asia Greg who

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was text essentially six starter
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route, after transferring from
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Brooks is always found success
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Oh, I'm not worried.
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but when you looked at Kenny
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Virginia Tech from 1000 full
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I think the biggest thing was
always 1010 the product on the

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floor, be better.
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talented, he's always had really
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Even when Tech even his first
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making NCAA tournament.
He's had good talented teams.

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Now, the good talented teams are
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putting out wins on the core.
They're getting to that next

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level.
You've got You gotta keep going

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doing what works and made again,
they were 10 minutes from a

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national championship, right?
Like, you know, and you can talk

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about them, heading Inland
physicality, but they handle

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Tennessee's and the handle bit,
you know, they handle Dukes to

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handle multiple other teams
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31 and 5 and I think LSU was
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A little bit.
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You know, I'll see you Hadn't
hit any three-point shots,

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really all tournament and then
come out and shoot the lights

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out on son in the championship
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That's just kind of way
basketball work so they're going

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to stick their guns and I'm sure
they'll pick up they'll pick up

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some really good additions as
Kenny and his staff have done in

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years previous.
But yeah, I mean, they're in a

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really good spot man.
You were going to have a team

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that just went to the final
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Nobody else in Blacksburg can
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Nobody else in the ACC are very
few teams in the ACC, okay?

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In say that.
So you got a log up on everybody

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and they were already really
good in terms of recruiting the

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portal in mining, the portal,
trying to really good players

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that fit their system.
I think they'll continue to do

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so yeah, pretty easy.
So to say hey we just went to a

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final four.
Come join us and see if we can

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run it back.
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Definitely.
Let's talk about men's suits a

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little bit as we kind of move
forward here into into.

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The next topic will lead a
little bit here with the with

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the Mike Jones departure, you
know, how is, how is that going

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to hurt Virginia Tech as we kind
of move into your further into

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the offseason?
And is there any any sort of

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rumor about who that next guy up
is going to be to kind of fill

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that role?
Yeah, well I think it's

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interesting.
So for those of you didn't see

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my job, Owns a set of accepted a
job at Maryland.

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He was at the math of 4 for 19
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That's kind of his home.
That's his background.

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That's his backyard.
I'm not surprised at all.

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I think everybody involved with
Virginia Tech around the

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program.
Everybody kind of knew Mike

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Jones is going to move on
eventually where.

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And when just kind of had to be
figured out, I'm surprised that

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he didn't stay longer, but when
when a spot comes open at the

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school, you know, at the At the
school year used to being

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around, you know, again he was
at the Matha and Maryland right

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there next to College Park.
I'm not surprised at all.

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You know, somebody told me the
other day, they called it a

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waste of time, and I don't know
if it wasn't necessarily a waste

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of time.
Now, what I will say is this,

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Darren Buchanan, one of his two
big recruits, he got in already

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entered the transfer portal.
He was the Washington d.c.

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Metro player of the year last
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Obviously everybody knows Rodney
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From what I've heard Rodney rice
is kind of told Mike young in

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the staff that he's planning on
saying, but if my Rodney was to

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leave, okay, well then those are
the two main guys Mike Jones

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brought into the program.
I think, at that point you kind

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of look at it and throw your
hands up and go, there was no

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net gain, there was no net loss,
kind of just was a waste a

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little bit of waste of time but
like nothing happened.

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UND.
But my Jones was a great guy and

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you know, I think there's
probably some things that go on

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behind the scenes and Player
Development stuff that we don't

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necessarily know about, but I'm
happy for him and I think again

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I think this higher is going to
be really interesting.

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I'm not sure.
Who am I going to go after?

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I've seen some names thrown
around on, on message boards and

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on Twitter and stuff, I'm not
sure if there's anybody

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specific, but I but I do think
it's interesting that You know,

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you got Kevin goner, you got
Christian Webster, two guys who

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have you've been very familiar
with for four or five years now?

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Kill Kevin guilting her for
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Can you get somebody that
brings?

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Something different to the
equation?

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I think that's kind of
interesting piece Chester

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Frazier was the guy who was here
before Mike Jones.

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I thought he did a really good
job of providing a very good

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defensive aspect curious to see
if if Mi kyung could get

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somebody that can kind of bring
a different perspective.

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It's kind of like Frasier did to
this team but you also got to

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bring in somebody that's really
good.

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Recruiter again, I don't know
how much it will route, you

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know, this move really affects
the roster and really affects

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what Virginia Tech was going to
do over the summer AJ.

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Swinton is a twin 24 kid, who
would who had connection to Mike

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Jones, he had played at the math
and the past and I think, you

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know, we're still too far out
for him to figure out whether or

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not he's coming or not.
And again, a high school recruit

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not coming after a coaching.
Change is not surprising to

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anybody so but I but I think
text tone in a good spot.

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Now I'm curious to see where my
down goes from here and how he

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kind of if he can kind of get
somebody that kind of bolsters

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the staff in a different way.
Phil's maybe a whole or to that

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Tech didn't necessarily have
covered previously if that makes

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sense.
Yeah, that does make a lot of

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sense.
Because like you said, Buchanan

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and rice and if you only lose
one of the two, it's a net gain.

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And I like what you said Dave,
it's a, it's a, it's a net

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neutral, maybe it's a waste of
time, but anytime you get

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someone from that program to
come at, least it shows and this

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is just me, maybe, it's me being
half full, I'm an optimist.

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It shows that Michael is going
to be able to get guys that can

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recruit down the Blacksburg and
help them out because if you

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pull Mike Jones from there, When
you know that there have been

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probably other programs to offer
them, it shows you he probably

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can land a suitable replacement
form.

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Now I'm going to flip it over
here since all this has been

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going on, there's then to
transfer portal guys, which I

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assume probably already knew.
Mike Jones was going to be out

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before they even came to Tech
first McHale long, the ODU

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transfer last year, you know,
averaging roughly ten points, a

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game eight rebounds long lanky
to Thunder seems like that was

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something.
I know we on this podcast

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mentioned a couple times.
That might have been missing

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from the team this year.
Originally, you know, was a

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Virginia kid top-10 recruit back
in 2019 out of Massanutten.

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David.
Just if you've got a chance to

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look anything on long that you
like so far, I like his ability

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to rebound.
I think that's I think that's

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big.
I mean look true he he led the

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he led to a Conference USA I
believe in double-doubles this

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year, I mean he's a he's a good
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I'm curious.
I'm curious to see and again we

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can spend time talking about him
and Tyler nickel, obviously the

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other another transfer, North
Carolina transfer, I think I

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think a lot of Virginia Tech
success hinges on whether

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Grandpa's only 100 or come back.
I'll just put that.

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At out there and I think
everybody understands that but I

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think long has a solid addition,
he gets to the rim, he hits and

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he gets fouled, he shoots a lot
of free throws, I think he'll be

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a solid addition in terms of he
can kind of help stretch the

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floor and drive it and he's a
good Defender who can rebound.

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I think it can kind of do it
all.

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Maybe a little bit more
accustomed to playing on the

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outside.
The Justin mutts was but I think

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he's a solid addition.
The particular kind of filling

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that role for oh go ahead tally.
I'll let you know.

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No I was just gonna say, you
know kind of what Cunningham was

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saying getting to the getting to
the goal and shooting free

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throws like watching Virginia
Tech a lot of times for me it's

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just you just want somebody to
just have some a little um you

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know love just a months and what
he brings to the table but he

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just for big man.
First of all, he's not really a

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big man being sick. 768, you
know, it's tough to go up

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against them trees and just not
getting to the free-throw line

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enough, man.
And that's what we mentioned.

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We playing games and people get
physical with us because we are

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such a finesse thing.
You know you got mazzilli

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shooting threes which he's great
at doing but you got to have

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somebody that does the Dirty
Work.

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You got to have somebody that's
in there getting rebounds and

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can hit those free throws for
you.

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Not just getting rebounds and
look at the outlet to go back up

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with him.
So you know I think that's a A

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good pickup and I think we need,
you know, a couple of more, you

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know, three and D Defenders as
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That's why, I guess Couture is a
is a big thing.

446
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:38,700
Whether he's coming back at
night because more, of course,

447
00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:40,000
he can shoot, everybody knows
that.

448
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,100
But I don't think people give
him enough credit for his

449
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:45,500
defense, you know, when he went
down the defensive aspect of

450
00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:47,400
the, of the team was much
different.

451
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:52,700
So, Similar to what, what, what,
what David is saying, man?

452
00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:55,700
Just this higher, I hope did he
bring somebody in?

453
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:58,600
Because I've been very almost
like critical, but I just been

454
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,600
skeptical because I like to
argue with people just about

455
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,600
basketball, but, you know, I
hope he brings something in just

456
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,000
that defensive aspect to just
wrap it up a little bit.

457
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,500
So I got off course a little bit
but when he said that, that kind

458
00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:13,800
of touched a little bit of what
I was thinking.

459
00:25:14,900 --> 00:25:17,700
Yeah, and I can do a little bit
of that.

460
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:23,700
What do you like about?
Tell him Nicol David it's tough

461
00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:27,900
because he's so young right.
I think I mean he's you know,

462
00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:30,800
he's only played his freshman
kind of a similar situation,

463
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,500
John Camden, although he played
all the more.

464
00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:34,000
I think he's kind of a more
advanced John.

465
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,600
Can't if I think he's a guy who
can stretch the floor a little

466
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,000
bit, he can shoot the three
ball.

467
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:41,200
He's a saw a reminder, he's a
good scorer.

468
00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:45,300
My biggest thing is going to
play defense, I think so far.

469
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,900
You know, he showed a little bit
at Creek Carolina that he could

470
00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:50,400
play solid defense.
Since I think he's going to be

471
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,700
good role player, I wouldn't
expect them to come in and start

472
00:25:52,700 --> 00:25:54,600
but I think he's gonna be a big
help.

473
00:25:55,900 --> 00:26:00,100
I think text, I don't want to
say problem but I think the

474
00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:04,400
question you run into it.
If you're Virginia Tech is if

475
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,600
under to torque doesn't come
back, you don't have any guys

476
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,900
with experience and Makai.
Wong has experienced, but you'd

477
00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:18,500
essentially playing Sean Padula.
You hope Rodney rice, your plan.

478
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:21,600
MJ columns are taught Nicole,
you're probably playing with

479
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,300
Kyle long and if you don't get
Grandpa silly back, you know

480
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:29,700
you're playing when kid, right?
So I think a lot of it hinges on

481
00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:31,300
whether Couture bacilli, come
back.

482
00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:33,000
But I think there's a lot of
positives.

483
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000
I think this is a group that
could have been better

484
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,300
defensively a lot last year and
I think long and nickel or two

485
00:26:40,300 --> 00:26:44,200
solid defensive pieces scoring
the ball is not really ever

486
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,800
going to be the issue for
Virginia Tech.

487
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,200
Mike, youngmee's, you know, it's
not like texting to always be.

488
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:52,700
A tan offensively but Patek is
go.

489
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:57,500
Usually better better than most.
I'm curious to see how those

490
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:01,400
guys gel defensively and it
because I think I think Tech

491
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,400
needs a bigger better paint
presence.

492
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,300
I think of Lynn Kate continues
to take steps that would be good

493
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,200
but but I think there are a lot
of just questions.

494
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,000
I have about Tex ability to play
defense and guard some of the

495
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,300
more athletic teams in the ACC
like a Miami for example, but I

496
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:21,400
think Tyler you mentioned it.
Arcturus defense is probably the

497
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,300
biggest reason why he so
effective.

498
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,800
His defense was really good,
mutts played good defense for

499
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,300
the most part.
So, I'm curious to see if a guy

500
00:27:31,300 --> 00:27:34,500
like Sean, Padula can take that
next step defensively.

501
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,400
I'm curious.
If if nickel and and Collins and

502
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,900
rice long can all slot in and
ever and this can be a better

503
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:47,000
defensive team for Virginia Tech
because I think there were times

504
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,400
last year where the offense was
fun.

505
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:52,300
Following and then on the
defensive end there was kind of

506
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:55,200
just a low and they couldn't get
any stops.

507
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,300
I think we saw a little bit
towards the end of the year so

508
00:27:57,700 --> 00:28:00,600
I'm curious but I think I think
Dex in a good spot, I think a

509
00:28:00,608 --> 00:28:03,700
lot of it again, hinges on the
bazillion guitar and whether or

510
00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:05,600
not they come back.
Yeah.

511
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:09,400
Kind of my big observation was
always looking at the defense.

512
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,000
How can that get better?
And then looking offensively?

513
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:18,300
How can we get guys that can
generate some offense, when

514
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,200
those shots aren't always
falling, right?

515
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,200
Because we had some of those
spells where the shots weren't

516
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,600
falling.
How can we still generate

517
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,800
offense during those there's
period.

518
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,900
So you don't let the team's
going some of those longer runs

519
00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:32,500
that we saw two kind of claw
back in the game that we thought

520
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:34,000
we had in hand a little bit
there.

521
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:37,300
It's to what Shelton said a
couple about a month ago on this

522
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:39,500
program.
When he talked about there are

523
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,400
times in Mike's offense that
ball gets stuck.

524
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,700
When we see the ball getting
stuck right.

525
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:46,700
Is when we see the other team,
had bigger islands.

526
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,600
I think what we all fought with
Rodney rice was.

527
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:52,200
He's the guy that can break that
mold Rodney rice has the

528
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,500
capability and you saw a state,
why was he rated so high?

529
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:58,200
He has that ability to take it
off the dribble, right?

530
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,400
He's athletic.
He's a really good guard nickel

531
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,000
similar that you look where Nick
was right to as a top hundred

532
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,900
player, he was pretty much
borderline for or four star

533
00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:10,200
everywhere, top three player in
the state of Virginia.

534
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:11,700
Now, does he have that type of
game?

535
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:14,800
No, but usually, when you You
see guys rated that high,

536
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,900
there's a few more elements to
their game than just shooting or

537
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:19,600
just, you know, being a good
rebounder.

538
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,100
So I think the two pickups are
good but you know, David you

539
00:29:24,108 --> 00:29:26,400
made the perfect point.
It's hundred Grant if Hunter.

540
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,000
And Grant come back with the
additions, they've made a the

541
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:34,800
team better be better, better be
better or tally will start.

542
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:39,400
Well, you say Hallie want to
shed next door, sighs criticize

543
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,800
criticize, let slip it off, and
let's go.

544
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,700
We're not even to the practice
yet, because between the last

545
00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:52,000
time we came, we got commits.
We got commits all over the

546
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:57,800
place and whoo-hoo.
The first one, we got our first

547
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,100
commit for the 2024 cycle Davy
Belfort.

548
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:06,200
Out of Fort Lauderdale Florida,
Western High School if you don't

549
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,000
know, Dad's Vitor Belfort dad
was a stud in the UFC back in

550
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,100
the early 2000s and still a stud
now knocking people out in

551
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:16,300
these.
Some sort of boxing, I saw that

552
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:18,600
pop up the other day on my
Twitter feed is pops knocking

553
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,700
somebody out three star, you
know, pretty good offer list

554
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:26,200
here Brian.
I'll flip to you on the IV.

555
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,100
I know you had a chance to look
at the highlights.

556
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:31,300
You know, smaller guy 510. 185,
what do you like about him?

557
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:35,300
Do you know in what do you hope
will write about?

558
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,900
I mean, pretty polished
quarterback, kind of out the

559
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:39,200
gate.
I think that's the big thing

560
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,300
that you see with him, you know,
the question is going to be

561
00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:47,200
frame wise size-wise, can can he
hold up in an offense?

562
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,800
It's going to have a little bit
of that.

563
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,300
RPO, little bit of run, run
action for the quarterback and

564
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:56,200
the ability to throw on the run
and things like that.

565
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,600
But everything I'm seeing right
now, I mean, he's got the

566
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,200
ability to get that done.
I like the, I like the ad, you

567
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,400
know, we can have a debate about
whether we should be taking

568
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,900
another quarterback, that is
about 10, 15 minutes down the

569
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:15,300
road from me, as well in this
class.

570
00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:18,300
And if we can push hard enough
to get both of them, but I like,

571
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:22,400
I like this as a Kickstart to
the 2024 class.

572
00:31:24,100 --> 00:31:25,400
Yeah, I like it.
I like it.

573
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,500
I mean, definitely was happy
that the that it that it we

574
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,300
finally got started.
I kind of look at him, I don't

575
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:33,600
know.
Look, the a little bit of him

576
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:38,400
and kind of reminds me of a more
polished Burmeister just with

577
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,800
the athletic ability, athletic
ability that he has, you know,

578
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:46,200
it looks scared.
You know, on film, of course,

579
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,900
taking some hits, still
delivering the ball, able to

580
00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:51,600
move a little bit.
So, I mean, if you're going to

581
00:31:51,608 --> 00:31:54,600
start off with a quarterback, I
don't see a problem with it.

582
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,100
Now I will say since you brought
it up I won't go too deep into

583
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:01,300
it because we're talking about
people, we do have but there's

584
00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:04,400
been so many arguments about why
we're looking at this

585
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:05,800
quarterback.
A wiring looking at this

586
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,300
quarterback away.
We doing this.

587
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:11,200
I'm a Virginia Tech fan and have
been for a long time.

588
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:13,100
I don't think it's in, Virginia
Tech's.

589
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:15,700
Best interest to wait on anybody
to commit.

590
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,600
If you can get somebody, you
need to get them because we've

591
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,400
been burned.
So many times thinking all we

592
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,300
have this person, or this person
is in silent commit, and then

593
00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:28,300
they go elsewhere.
So, if these quarterbacks that's

594
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:32,200
right down the road or whatever,
the case may be, may be coming.

595
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:36,000
I still want them, but I don't
think you can, we're not in a

596
00:32:36,008 --> 00:32:39,700
position to wait like we got to
get We Got Talent is wanting to

597
00:32:39,708 --> 00:32:41,400
come.
We got to let the Talent come

598
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,600
in.
Hey, what's your thoughts about?

599
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,400
What's your thoughts on Davi?
Honestly, I've been so busy and

600
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:51,900
him and dandy the other commits.
I've been so busy covering

601
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:54,200
women's basketball and doing all
Spring football stuff as they

602
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,300
haven't, had chance to dive deep
into him.

603
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:59,300
But I do think he's a, he's a
good committee at a lot of good

604
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:04,400
offers.
Honestly, there's plenty of

605
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,000
quarterback controversy on this
current team.

606
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,800
I don't think the worry about,
so, yo,

607
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:33,200
But he's a guy who could turn
out really really well

608
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:43,100
absolutely North Carolina's.
Top 25 players in the state of

609
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:45,200
North Carolina.
We had already mentioned him

610
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,900
back a few weeks ago.
Matej in tally.

611
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,100
Six-foot-four 215 pounds.
Callie been saying we getting

612
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:54,500
bigger and bigger, we're getting
busy.

613
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:59,700
Only a few offers here, but also
mount airy's, a smaller school,

614
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:04,000
you're talking about on the
western side of the state but

615
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:08,199
you know we talked Brian me and
you were talking to Ravi about

616
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:13,800
him just a few weeks ago and he
says he reminded him of house

617
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:19,600
gains, I know house Has
career-tech been you know Flores

618
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,199
like we all hoped it would and
hope he's doing okay.

619
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:26,000
Now I hadn't seen him on the
timeline in a while but coming

620
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,900
out house games.
Had a lot of offers a lot of

621
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:32,199
interests.
Brian, did you pop quick pop

622
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:36,000
quiz pop quick?
He did, you know what are you

623
00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:38,400
looking at?
I mean, he's got a good frame.

624
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,199
I'd like to obviously see him
put on a little bit more weight

625
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:45,600
before he's ready for prime time
but you know, I like having a

626
00:34:45,607 --> 00:34:49,699
guy.
By 64, frame plays, a little bit

627
00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:52,100
bigger than his weight just
looking at the tape.

628
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:58,000
So that that's a good sign, you
know, like most high school Edge

629
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,700
rushers.
He doesn't quite been the way

630
00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:02,400
you want him to yet.
But I mean, that's something

631
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,800
that's very coachable.
So, I like the pickup and I

632
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,200
think it's something that you
can kind of build off of your

633
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,800
definitely kind of an
under-the-radar type Talent you

634
00:35:11,808 --> 00:35:14,000
know, similar to, we saw, you
know, a couple guys that were in

635
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,900
the previous class as well.
Hungry.

636
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,100
I'm all right with.
It ain't what buggy?

637
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:21,600
And I watch a whole bunch of
tape on him.

638
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:25,300
I just seen the size and I'm
like, no 511.

639
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Well, 511 defensive and I'm all
right with it.

640
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:33,700
The best part about Talia.
And, you know, the funny part

641
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:37,000
y'all is, if you all who are
here a few weeks ago, watch him

642
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,400
until you know, David, you know,
you have some relationships.

643
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,700
Mattei there for taming, we
talked about Florida, check made

644
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:46,600
me happy because I'm worried
about like listen Florida's a

645
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,800
talent, Rich State, go get
somebody down there, we did

646
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,200
that, but they said, watch North
Carolina this year.

647
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:57,100
S commits from North Carolina
and then It was talking about

648
00:35:57,100 --> 00:36:00,800
how we sit better with a lot of
the top recruits in Virginia in

649
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,600
sure as hell, right out the
gate.

650
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,800
We get our highest recruited,
you know, 24/7 player from

651
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,000
Virginia.
Since this coaching staff took

652
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:15,000
over full cycle, Josh Clark
about of Alexandria, the 13th,

653
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,500
ranked player in the state
that's automatically up for from

654
00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:24,100
Caleb Woodson who was 17 last
year, six 170 pounds recruited

655
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:26,000
by Derrick Jones and Pearson
Prelude.

656
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,300
Wonder where he's going to play
y'all.

657
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,800
Yeah, well, if you watch this
tape, you'll be able to see it

658
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,200
too.
I mean, first couple of plays on

659
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,400
his tape man.
He's affluent Runner, he's

660
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,900
picking balls off, he's taking
them to the house, good Vision,

661
00:36:41,900 --> 00:36:44,800
once he gets the ball, once he
picks the ball off for me, and

662
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,700
of course, High School is much
different in college, but that's

663
00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:52,000
why you go recruit you recruit
for the athletic ability and

664
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,500
that's what a, you get them in
there and Coach him up.

665
00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:59,800
So, Far as size goes, I think he
had, you know, is already 61 170

666
00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:05,200
easily easily put a little
weight on in the college ranks.

667
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,600
And like I said, just watching
the first couple of Clips on his

668
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,000
tape, man.
I was impressed, he's a great,

669
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,200
he's great with the ball in his
hands once he gets it.

670
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,600
So I think it's a good pick up,
really the pickup.

671
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,300
I was impressed with that.
Pick up even more so than the

672
00:37:21,300 --> 00:37:23,600
Dhabi pick up.
I was impressed with the clock,

673
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,400
pick up.
Yeah I think he's probably going

674
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,000
to have be one of those guys
that's position.

675
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,200
Fluid his first year on campus,
probably throwing out their

676
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,400
corner, see what he can do,
probably going to end up as a

677
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,600
safety kind of a fluid rangy
safety.

678
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,200
That can be a ball hog, but I
like the pick.

679
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,900
A big-time big-time pick up for
the Hokies in my opinion.

680
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,700
David.
We know you've been traveling

681
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:47,800
anything on him.
Anything you heard.

682
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,200
Yeah.
But I tell you what they can

683
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,100
produce new tech continues to
pick up big kids in the

684
00:37:53,107 --> 00:37:55,700
Commonwealth.
I think that's I think That's

685
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:59,600
the big thing, right?
Grand prize made an emphasis and

686
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,400
Derrick Jones is a sin.
Pray Lord, are solid recruiters,

687
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,400
you know, I think again, I think
this is a pretty solid

688
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,100
recruiting stuff.
I think like they've continued

689
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:12,500
to put good pieces together.
I don't think the questions are

690
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:14,800
really in recruiting part
anymore.

691
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,300
I think the questions are on the
football field.

692
00:38:17,300 --> 00:38:19,700
I think that's bottom line, but
I do think Clark is a big

693
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:25,100
pickup, you know, Tech is
continuing to make up ground.

694
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:29,100
And make progress in terms of
picking up higher rated kids in

695
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:35,500
the Commonwealth did well in
Richmond, especially in last

696
00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:37,900
year's class, can you continue
to make progress?

697
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:42,100
And if you do and, and you go
out and put out a good product

698
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:45,500
on Saturdays?
You'll be all right, but I think

699
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:48,200
the product on Saturdays part,
you know, I'm sure which we're

700
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,500
going to talk about in the sack,
you know, I think that's where

701
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:53,600
it all comes down, because if
you're not winning football

702
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,400
games that really matter how
well, your And in the piggyback

703
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,600
off what DC is saying, also kind
of goes back to the basketball

704
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,300
situation as well, because you
got Tyler nickel that is of

705
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:10,900
Virginia.
He is, you know, was the best

706
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:13,200
player in Virginia.
When he, when he graduated

707
00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:15,800
ourselves.
All-time leading scorer.

708
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,800
You've got, you know, same as
like Mac McDonald, right?

709
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:22,400
So Virginia people, they pay
attention to each other which

710
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,900
most people do.
My son plays tribal baseball.

711
00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:28,600
He's in seventh grade we hear
about a kid that made the ninth

712
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,900
grade team.
He's playing right over at our

713
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:33,100
high school.
We go watch and play, we don't

714
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:35,100
know him, we just go watch him
play.

715
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:38,200
He's a seventh grade and it's
already throwing 85.

716
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,000
Yeah, let's go, let's go watch
his kid play to see, he's

717
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,400
pitching them.
Nice great thing.

718
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:47,700
So I say that to say when you
get these when you when you get,

719
00:39:47,900 --> 00:39:51,900
you know, a Tyler nickel to come
in and then you start producing

720
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:55,500
with somebody like that or you
get one of these kids from Don't

721
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:57,500
you just pick one from last
year?

722
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,600
Yeah, Raylan princess.
Oh Caleb, listen, one of these

723
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,700
kids goes out and makes a name
for himself.

724
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,400
A lot of times.
Again, these kids are the best

725
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,800
kid that the people around him
have seen.

726
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:13,800
But traditionally in the past
five years we haven't had big

727
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,300
name.
Virginia kids doing much you

728
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:19,100
know you got.
You got to get your money

729
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:23,300
instead just signed a Killer
Contract but I mean that was a

730
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:26,700
that was a while ago we need to
see Somebody at Virginia Tech

731
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:30,600
that produces and gets these
other recruits excited.

732
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,400
May.
I just play, I just played

733
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,400
against him, I just played
against him last year and he's

734
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,200
already dead doing this.
That's what's going to take that

735
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:41,600
the staff and the school to the
next level and I will not sir.

736
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:45,800
I keep telling people is not, it
is recruiting, it is the staff

737
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:47,800
but the staff doing everything
they can do.

738
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:50,700
In my opinion, they're going to
the places, they're out in the

739
00:40:50,707 --> 00:40:54,500
highways and hedges.
It comes down to somebody

740
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:57,000
producing them.
And it's their job to put them

741
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,100
in that position.
So we got to go out and make

742
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:02,700
something happen.
It's on the field this year DC,

743
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:04,000
you said it just a few minutes
ago.

744
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,300
This is a good recruiting staff
and tally to your points.

745
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:08,200
Been five years.
Tim settle in The Osmond

746
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,200
Brothers, were the last time I
was Virginia products who went

747
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,300
drafted high, and now they've
been in the league over a half,

748
00:41:14,300 --> 00:41:18,100
decade that hole while, but to
your point on the field is where

749
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:19,900
it's got to happen.
We can recruit great all day,

750
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:22,500
but then they got to start
winning and I love what they did

751
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:25,500
with bringing in Brent, Davis.
I mean David, you saw I'm out

752
00:41:25,500 --> 00:41:29,700
there a little bit earlier
before anybody knew, you know,

753
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:32,300
offensive line.
Coach was at army, always a big

754
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:36,600
Russian attach��, you know, you
have you had any interactions

755
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,200
with them or just seeing them on
the field.

756
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,100
I mean, I'm assuming him and,
you know, he's out there a

757
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:44,100
because you're just bringing in
a brand new offensive line,

758
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:47,300
coach is going to be full-time
on staff just to help him move

759
00:41:47,300 --> 00:41:51,400
along, but what's just your
thoughts on rent?

760
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,100
Davis out the gate?
Well, I tell you.

761
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:57,900
Sir works a lot with the office
for line.

762
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,100
I mean, he's trying to fix this
rushing attack which you know,

763
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:08,400
there's so much talked last year
about, okay, they wanted to do

764
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,100
this thing in the games.
They wanted to be this type of

765
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:14,000
team but didn't really have the
Personnel, do it and there were

766
00:42:14,008 --> 00:42:16,800
these injuries Bawa.
Now they're trying to

767
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,100
reconfigure it.
I think they've got the

768
00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:24,800
Personnel to be a type of a
better rushing team this year.

769
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:28,400
I think having Brian Davis
coming in and helps you

770
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,400
incorporate helps, you be more
creative and more clever

771
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,700
incorporating different.
Different type of Russian style.

772
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:39,400
I think into your tack, these
look pretty good.

773
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,000
I mean, obviously we won't know
much until they actually take

774
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:47,300
the field, but but I do think
it's a big addition in and, you

775
00:42:47,308 --> 00:42:50,700
know, for anybody who was
questioning whether or not, you

776
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:52,900
know, What tech was trying to
do?

777
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:56,500
Well, they hire Brent Davis, and
they're like, we're trying to

778
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,700
figure out a Russian game and
we're hiring him to come help

779
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:01,600
us.
Figure it out and clean

780
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,400
everything up.
And I think a lot of that has to

781
00:43:04,408 --> 00:43:08,300
do with what happens up front.
But I think Crook and Brooks

782
00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:11,900
which I know you guys have, you
know, as topics later.

783
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:16,700
I think you know those three
editions Davis helping out those

784
00:43:16,700 --> 00:43:20,400
two guys, I think if they all
gel properly, it can get the

785
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,200
Personnel to Properly will see
some success in the running game

786
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:26,500
yet.
It's really hard to do a whole

787
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:30,400
lot without a good running game
like and we talked about it, you

788
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,800
know, last year and I know we're
switching schemes.

789
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,600
But even in, you know, if we go
have your RPO this year than we

790
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,000
saw last year, you're still
going to need to establish a

791
00:43:39,008 --> 00:43:41,900
good running game for that to
have any sort of success because

792
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:45,000
the threat of the rush has to be
there for everything else to

793
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:49,000
work.
So getting that figured out is

794
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,800
definitely Point number.
One for us, having successful

795
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,100
the offense this year, because
we actually do have the skill

796
00:43:56,100 --> 00:44:02,100
players outside this year to
make defenses pay, but it's only

797
00:44:02,100 --> 00:44:04,100
going to work.
If we can Rush the ball at least

798
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:11,600
effectively, if not very well.
All right, very well, we got

799
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,700
here, Douglas 45 minutes.
A day that we message of what?

800
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:16,800
Two months ago.
We're going to talk Spring ball

801
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,000
David, I'm sure David listen
here.

802
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,800
Now we're 45 minutes in and
we're just getting the spring

803
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,700
Ball but I don't think we trade
the world for it because I think

804
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:29,000
what happens with the ladies.
Having all these recruits come

805
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,600
in.
It's wonderful but let's set it

806
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,600
up.
We're going to start with one

807
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,100
subject before we go to break
and it's the quarterback room.

808
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,600
You have a question that you
want to ask mr.

809
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,600
Cunningham.
Yes.

810
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:47,900
I mean, we got these, we got
this big transfer portal ad with

811
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:52,000
Karen Jones coming in kind of a
two-horse race in the, in the

812
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,400
offseason with, with Grant
Wells.

813
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,700
There.
What have you seen, what have

814
00:44:57,700 --> 00:44:59,800
you heard thus far as to the
competition?

815
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,500
And will this be something that
we think kind of carries into

816
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:07,300
the fall?
Yes, it is going.

817
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,900
Going to carry into the fall.
I mean this is going to be like

818
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:12,900
a like I know quarterback
decisions are usually made,

819
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:16,800
probably later, unless you got
an incumbent, this is going to

820
00:45:16,808 --> 00:45:21,200
be one that drags on.
And it's not because either guys

821
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,200
are not talented but it's
because text still trying to

822
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,800
figure out how the offense gels
together Tech, you'll still

823
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,500
trying to put pieces together,
right?

824
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,900
Grant Wells has experienced
Tyron.

825
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:36,800
Drones does not.
That does not mean Chiron.

826
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,800
Drones is Talented.
But right now, he's still trying

827
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,500
to think figure things out.
He has not had any time in this

828
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:48,500
offense before.
This Grant Wells had all last

829
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:52,000
year to learn the offense, and
he played in that, right?

830
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:57,000
You know, whether or not he
played well, good or bad, he

831
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,100
played in the offense, that's
more experienced than drones

832
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:03,800
has.
This is a, I mean, I think it's

833
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,800
pretty even right now.
I would say Wells probably has a

834
00:46:06,808 --> 00:46:09,700
little bit of a Tej simply
because he's got more experience

835
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:11,800
and because he's been in that
situation before and because he

836
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,100
knows what exactly the coaches
are expecting of him.

837
00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:18,300
But I don't think that counts,
drones out at all and I think,

838
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:25,300
two drones, I think it'd be
unfair to say drones is, is pro

839
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:29,400
is like even with Wells simply
because he does not have that

840
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,700
experience, right?
This is his first semester on

841
00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:33,800
campus.
As a college student, he's got

842
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,800
so many other things he's
dealing with.

843
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,300
He's learning the offense, he's
learning his teammates.

844
00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:44,400
I mean again remember like I
know a lot of the receivers are

845
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,400
kind of new faces but he's never
throwing passes that happen.

846
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,200
You know any of these guys.
Well just turn passes to a

847
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,600
handful, I think I think the
competition will oh, really heat

848
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,000
up over the summer.
And once we get into July and

849
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,400
August and I think it's going to
be legit, I think it's going to

850
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,100
be a two-horse race and, you
know, I think it's way too early

851
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:09,200
to tell but But I think I think
they both have their skill sets

852
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:14,100
and I think a lot of Brent Davis
coming and the new offensive

853
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:17,800
line I think all the pieces
around them are improving right.

854
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,800
People can look at Wells last
year and say well it was not a

855
00:47:20,808 --> 00:47:23,100
good quarterback.
Well, Virginia Tech was not a

856
00:47:23,107 --> 00:47:30,100
good offense knows, no wine
Keshawn King Malachi Thomas was

857
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:32,800
okay when he was healthy, but he
was barely healthy, right?

858
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:37,300
The tight end room was okay, but
the only way, Wide receiver who

859
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:38,900
could get separations.
Caleb Smith.

860
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,100
That's not a lot to work with,
right.

861
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:47,000
I think if the other pieces
continue to improve Grant Wells

862
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,200
or tiring drones, whoever is the
starting quarterback is going to

863
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,400
be in a better position, right?
And I think this is a good

864
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,400
opportunity for Tyler.
Bowing to experiment a little

865
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,700
bit and figure out what works
and what doesn't so it's going

866
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:03,400
to be something that progresses
on through August and go.

867
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:36,400
Now, don't worry.
Is uncle's or something on

868
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:37,300
Twitter?
I don't know.

869
00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:40,900
He was on my head.
You paid, and you got an agenda

870
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:43,300
against him.
And I'm like, I just said he

871
00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:45,600
wasn't good last year, that's
it.

872
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,300
I understand that the offense
was not objectively, I don't

873
00:48:49,300 --> 00:49:10,200
think he was very good.
This is kind of going to lead

874
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:15,700
into the next Point as well.
When you do have what we had,

875
00:49:15,700 --> 00:49:21,200
which was a shit show last year,
a quarterback that can make

876
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,200
plays with his legs, as well as
his arm.

877
00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:25,500
They keep talking about triple
threat.

878
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,200
I've never seen a quarterback,
make a play with his head for

879
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,900
real to see this handles on.
I mean his legs or Farm but I

880
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:35,600
get what they're saying.
I feel like if we had somebody

881
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,900
in place that could do that, and
I'm not saying it's drones.

882
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:40,500
I'm just saying, I feel like if
we had somebody that could do

883
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:46,100
that, It just we would have lost
a couple of games, not because

884
00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:48,800
the team was so good at a team
of so bad.

885
00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:51,700
I just think we just didn't make
one or two plays that we could

886
00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:56,100
have made at that position to
propel us to a win.

887
00:49:56,700 --> 00:50:00,200
And again, takes us to our next
point because I'm a big drawings

888
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,400
guy.
Just watching them watching what

889
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,600
he is and how he plays, you've
seen them a little bit more than

890
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:06,800
we have.
What?

891
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,000
Have you seen anything from him
and practice just kind of made

892
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,100
you go like, damn, we didn't
have that last year.

893
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:15,300
Well, I think, is that flight
us'?

894
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:17,500
And I think that's important
right now.

895
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:20,700
That Wells is not athletic, but
I think welds, I think I didn't

896
00:50:20,700 --> 00:50:23,300
drones as a guy who's built more
for that.

897
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,300
The exact reason why you hired
Brent Davis, is an offensive

898
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:29,300
consultant, because you want to
run the football and use the

899
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:33,200
quarterback.
I think, I think that could be

900
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,700
if it does end up being drones,
I think that's something he

901
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:38,900
could provide, right, you can
provide a little bit more that

902
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:41,700
quarterback running game.
I think his athletic Is, um, is

903
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:43,600
is, is something that stands out
to me.

904
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,900
That doesn't necessarily, you
know, I think some of the, some

905
00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:50,600
of the younger guys vote.
Taj Bolick, an indictment feral

906
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,800
or also athletic pop Watson.
I don't really see much of him.

907
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,200
I think some of those younger
guys are also athletic but they

908
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,900
don't necessarily have the, the
composure in the Poise that

909
00:51:02,900 --> 00:51:05,800
drones does right or that Wells
does.

910
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:10,700
So I think his athleticism, if
anything is going to make him

911
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:13,700
stand, Doubt.
But I also think we'll see more.

912
00:51:13,700 --> 00:51:17,300
We'll see more of that, as he
gets more integrated to the

913
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:21,200
offense and as it becomes less
of, hey, let's learn the

914
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,900
techniques and fundamentals of
how we want to do things and

915
00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:28,100
more of hey, lets, you know,
once we get to the fall right,

916
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:30,800
it's going to be okay.
Who's the better quarterback?

917
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,100
Now, it's more of.
Do you understand what we are

918
00:51:34,107 --> 00:51:36,000
trying to systematically
install?

919
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,200
Do you understand what we are
trying to run?

920
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,200
But I think his athleticism
could potentially provide.

921
00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:43,700
A different Dynamic for Virginia
Tech this here?

922
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:45,800
Yeah, I mean, just looking at
him.

923
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,700
I mean athleticism combined with
a little more physicality than

924
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:52,000
Wells would bring to the table,
right?

925
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,500
Because he's not just athletic,
but he's athletic and strong and

926
00:51:56,500 --> 00:52:01,600
I think those two combined.
Well, to if you want to use your

927
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:07,100
quarterback as a rushing option
and Implement again more RPO

928
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:10,500
were you can have that
quarterback as a legit rushing

929
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:13,300
threat on.
On every play and that's going

930
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:15,400
to put that defense in lot more
conflict.

931
00:52:15,500 --> 00:52:17,100
It's going to put them in the
bonds.

932
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:19,100
You just going to put them
having to make decisions every

933
00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:22,000
single time.
He sticks it in Teutons or

934
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,800
Thomas's gut.
If you crash and he pulls,

935
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,200
you're giving up a big-ass play.
We saw, we saw that in some of

936
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,300
the tape, with West Virginia,
some of this High School film,

937
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,000
he's athletic.
By the way.

938
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,600
David Thomas, Train agrees with
you.

939
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:36,500
He probably doesn't know
everybody's name yet.

940
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:38,800
Yeah, yeah, that's really
important with that.

941
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,500
Yeah.
I mean that's a big thing,

942
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:41,000
right?
You got it.

943
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,000
And it's not just not just him.
It's all the young guys.

944
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,000
Like I know we're going to get
down and talk to wide receivers

945
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,600
later.
I guess not the young guys in

946
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,500
sewing, but the new guys, right?
We're going to get down and talk

947
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:54,900
to wide receivers later like
like Ali Jennings and Daquan

948
00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:59,200
Felton and Jalen Lane to die
soon.

949
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,700
As I assume they know the
quarterback Same by now, but

950
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:06,500
like getting into getting into a
rhythm probably takes a little

951
00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:09,100
bit of time and learning what
they want to do.

952
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,400
So I'm curious.
Yes.

953
00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:12,800
I mean everybody's gonna have
their eyes on.

954
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,700
Drones come, come the fall.
I'm really curious to see what

955
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:19,100
the biggest changes are in his
development over the summer,

956
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:22,100
right.
His in terms of his work ethic

957
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:27,200
and how he gets into the gym and
and stays working on his craft

958
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,900
because he's, I think he's got a
real legit chance if he

959
00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:32,300
continues to work at it.
Well, just kind of has a little

960
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:35,300
bit of experience on I got.
Yeah, it's true.

961
00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:37,600
So we'll, we'll see that as time
progresses.

962
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,500
We'll see it as is Brian.
Toal said a few weeks ago, The

963
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:43,800
real competition starts at the
spring game.

964
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:46,600
It's not right now.
Now let me ask this because you

965
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,000
mentioned a little bit earlier,
all the young guys in there are

966
00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:51,700
boatload, I'm here because I'm
staring at for as I look at the

967
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:55,800
roster, do you feel like before
the end of spring?

968
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,500
Or after spring, we're going to
see position changes or

969
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:00,800
potentially portal from any of
those guys.

970
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:04,900
It's kind of Tristan's.
Got to come from somewhere,

971
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,200
Virginia Tech's at 90
scholarships right now.

972
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,900
You got to be down 85.
Address is going to come from

973
00:54:10,900 --> 00:54:15,900
somewhere and you don't need six
quarterbacks on the roster.

974
00:54:15,900 --> 00:54:21,900
That's just plain and simple.
I mean II hate to like Point

975
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:28,200
mate, you know, like name names
but but I think I think a lot of

976
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,700
it, you know, I wouldn't expect
Grant Wells or Chiron drones and

977
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:37,200
transfer out and I wouldn't
expect pop Watson or Dylan wit

978
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,200
key to the two other newcomers
to transfer out.

979
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,200
I think it comes down to the two
guys in the middle and that's

980
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,900
Devon Farrell anti-bullying.
And I think at this point, a lot

981
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:49,700
of it is, can you play a
different position, right?

982
00:54:49,700 --> 00:54:51,200
What is your position,
versatility?

983
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,800
And some of those guys might
have position versus to it.

984
00:54:54,300 --> 00:54:57,900
The other thing is, those guys
want to play too, it's not like

985
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,700
quarterbacks one position.
I think one of a few positions

986
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:04,900
where it's like, if you're not
playing, you don't get

987
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:07,800
experience, right?
If you're not a starter, I

988
00:55:07,808 --> 00:55:12,400
should say.
You know, if you are, if you're

989
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,000
the third string or
fourth-string quarterback,

990
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:17,000
you're still going to get a lot
of reps, right?

991
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:19,700
If you're the third string
quarterback, you're not touching

992
00:55:19,700 --> 00:55:22,300
a field.
So so I think it comes down to

993
00:55:22,300 --> 00:55:23,600
kind of what those guys want to
do.

994
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,000
What they mentally.
How are they do?

995
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,000
They do they enjoy being at
Virginia Tech?

996
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,400
Do I want to go somewhere where
the grass might be greener,

997
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,500
where they can probably play a
little more?

998
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,300
I think that comes down to a but
I think I would expect to see a

999
00:55:38,308 --> 00:55:40,600
little bit of attrition office
and that room but I mean a lot

1000
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:45,300
of the rooms where you've got
your way over the limit or

1001
00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:48,400
probably where you would like to
be simply because you're trying

1002
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:53,100
to rebuild this roster, it's all
understandable right now, good

1003
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:54,700
deal man.
And yeah it's got to be

1004
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:56,600
attrition somewhere.
I know we'll talk about

1005
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:01,400
attrition in another room and a
little bit of time here but we

1006
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,400
are 57 minutes in.
We need to pay some bills before

1007
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:09,200
we go to even more spring
practice takes from David.

1008
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:12,600
Pam from Tech sideline.
We are going to take a quick

1009
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,900
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Now back to the episode All

1018
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,600
right, we got an interesting
question in the chat here from

1019
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,400
Jerry, and I will just throw it
in before we get into the

1020
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,000
offensive line, because this is
an offensive line podcast and it

1021
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,400
says, speaking of coaching or PT
fans, okay?

1022
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,300
With the toxic coach, or a
wholesome, coach referring back

1023
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:57,000
to my Twitter question today.
I didn't see the Twitter

1024
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,700
question, so I can't comment too
much.

1025
00:57:02,300 --> 00:57:05,900
David's laughing, Brian smirking
tallies looking down, trying to

1026
00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:08,500
find a tweet.
I'm trying to find a tweet.

1027
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:11,000
I want to tell you what, I'm you
clearly know about it.

1028
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:16,100
I think if you're winning
doesn't matter.

1029
00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:21,600
No fuck no, not really.
If you're getting to where it

1030
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:26,100
needs to be no matter.
The does that matter, winning

1031
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:29,500
cures, everything winning, cures
everything, the old staff, David

1032
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:32,700
you're getting so much more
access to practice now but at

1033
00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:36,400
Virginia Tech had gone ten,
eleven nine ten eleven during

1034
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,100
that tenure.
You wouldn't care.

1035
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,700
Hey, you're an Alum beer writer
because of hell of a lot more

1036
00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:45,100
fun to write about a team,
that's winning the team that's

1037
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:46,700
losing.
We're fans.

1038
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:50,600
Oh, he doesn't open practice, I
don't care.

1039
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,800
We won 11 games last year.
You're actually give a shit

1040
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,200
about that.
Winning cures, all sins band if

1041
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,100
you're winning it, nobody cares,
but, you know, it's always good

1042
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:06,400
to be, you know, a little bit.
People want coach has to be

1043
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,800
specially, Virginia Tech fans.
They won't coach has to be

1044
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,700
frank.
Beamer, you are never going to

1045
00:58:10,700 --> 00:58:13,300
get a Frank Beamer.
Again, you're never going to get

1046
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:14,900
somebody like that.
You know.

1047
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,000
Again I love the white, I love
those guys when they come on and

1048
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,600
talk about that culture and
stuff.

1049
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,900
But nobody is going to empower
in embody, what Frank was in

1050
00:58:24,900 --> 00:58:27,400
that area?
Again, even if you're doing the

1051
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,600
best you can and you're doing a
good job, he's just different.

1052
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,600
That's why he would.
That's why he's a Legend.

1053
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,700
So wholesome just you know
touching on that.

1054
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,800
Do you know it's great to have a
wholesome coach like that but

1055
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,600
Frank got it done on the field
as well so you just can't you,

1056
00:58:46,700 --> 00:58:52,200
you got to win, you know, ladies
and gentlemen, that's your

1057
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:59,300
answer.
We love you so much.

1058
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:12,700
Puppies either this time.
No sir.

1059
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:16,200
Nothing with him.
He's a licensed pharmacist and

1060
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,100
all of it.
No thanks.

1061
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:42,500
Yeah I think he's he's fitting
right in now.

1062
00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:47,100
He's a guy that's got West
Virginia Roots, you know D3

1063
00:59:47,100 --> 00:59:51,800
Roots kind of same Roots it from
prai has those East Stroudsburg,

1064
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,900
PA Roots, sort of that same
conference that same division.

1065
00:59:56,900 --> 00:59:59,500
Again those those what some of
those West Virginia schools, a

1066
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:01,900
tiny schools and he's fitting
right?

1067
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:06,000
In again, we talk about people
who are still trying to learn,

1068
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,900
learn other people's names.
My I guess is he's still trying

1069
01:00:08,900 --> 01:00:11,400
to learn as Personnel because
he's on, he's barely been on the

1070
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,200
job, but I do think he's
somebody that the past, in the

1071
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,200
past, she's done more with less,
and from everything I've noticed

1072
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,600
so far.
He's done a really good job in

1073
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,400
terms of fitting in.
I thought it was evident when

1074
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:31,100
Tyler Baldwin believe most to
hold mention that, you know, he

1075
01:00:31,100 --> 01:00:35,000
and Elijah Brooks had come in
immediately, and they'd barely,

1076
01:00:36,100 --> 01:00:39,200
they'd barely been in the same
coaching Circles at some of

1077
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,300
those guys before and everybody
just came in and got to work on

1078
01:00:43,300 --> 01:00:45,000
their first day.
And they basically spend entire

1079
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,400
day together in the office and
everybody was yelling together

1080
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,400
and it was fine.
It was like they had known each

1081
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,300
other for for a while.
So it sounds like Crook and

1082
01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:54,500
Brooks.
Are both fitting in really

1083
01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:58,100
nicely.
I love hearing that.

1084
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,400
And, you know, we had talked
about crook last time we were on

1085
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,600
here talked about how we like
the fit, how we liked that.

1086
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:11,400
He seems like a guy that Easy.
He is the embodiment of what an

1087
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,100
offensive line coach when you
think of an offensive line

1088
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:16,000
coach.
So the fact that he's got in

1089
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,600
there, hit the ground running, I
like that.

1090
01:01:18,500 --> 01:01:22,300
Let's let's pivot to more of a
depth chart here it for what

1091
01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:25,200
it's worth at this point from
the offensive line standpoint.

1092
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:33,700
I was very adamant that when you
look at the center position that

1093
01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:35,300
was the one I was most worried
about.

1094
01:01:35,300 --> 01:01:40,100
I know we had some some depth
concerns that tackle, but when I

1095
01:01:40,107 --> 01:01:41,500
was looking at Center I was
like, all right.

1096
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:43,700
That's going to be problematic
heading into the season

1097
01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:47,900
obviously came or sliding over
has helped alleviate some of

1098
01:01:47,900 --> 01:01:49,600
that.
But who were the guys that are

1099
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,800
getting the majority of reps
there at Center?

1100
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:56,200
And give me at least, you know,
at least two maybe three, yeah,

1101
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,500
Katie Maurice, the guy at
Center, Jack hollifield is the

1102
01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:03,700
era behind him, I think.
It to put a plain and simple.

1103
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:05,700
I think more taking that
position.

1104
01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:07,600
Pretty well.
That was some Joe Rudolph.

1105
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:12,000
I'd suggest to him before he
left from everything.

1106
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,900
I can tell, you know, Brent pry.
And the end and I don't we, you

1107
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:18,800
know, I wasn't there when Ron
crook spoke to the media but

1108
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:22,500
sounds like everybody finds that
to be a natural fit for Kayden.

1109
01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:26,800
So so him and hollifield or the
two guys there right now.

1110
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,800
Well, that makes me feel good
because we know Jack was brought

1111
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:35,000
in to be the center and, you
know, we had a conversation with

1112
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,500
Kate and a few months ago and he
and he, we didn't know, I didn't

1113
01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:41,400
know.
Callie didn't know Brandon, no.

1114
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,700
But when he told us like that,
oh yeah, been snapping.

1115
01:02:43,700 --> 01:02:45,700
Learn how to play center like
what?

1116
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,400
Like, you've been like a really
good Right Guard since Jump

1117
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,100
Street and I know Brian.
You've been mentioned it to

1118
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:56,100
like, you know what, he is a
really good Right Guard and if

1119
01:02:56,107 --> 01:02:58,700
he can get the snap down and get
the calls out.

1120
01:02:58,900 --> 01:03:02,900
Out, you're talking about taking
you're talking about taking a

1121
01:03:02,908 --> 01:03:05,300
guy who could play it, an
all-conference level guard, and

1122
01:03:05,300 --> 01:03:08,500
put him there to run your
offense and somebody you trust

1123
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:12,200
and note.
It also gives more of the guy

1124
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,100
you actually have more depth on
that in that guard slot.

1125
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:18,700
So it gives you a little bit
more flexibility of how you're

1126
01:03:18,700 --> 01:03:21,600
going to mix and match the rest
of the line to get that best

1127
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,200
five out there.
When I say best, I've done

1128
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:27,500
necessarily best five players
but the five players that play

1129
01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:29,900
the best together.
It gives you a lot more

1130
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:32,900
flexibility there and let's talk
about that.

1131
01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:35,900
A little where some of the other
Titus position battles taking

1132
01:03:35,900 --> 01:03:40,400
place across the line, is it
kind of that the Tackle Spot is

1133
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,600
that, that that Right Guard
spot?

1134
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:46,800
What are we looking at so far as
terms of tight battles for the

1135
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,500
the starters?
Yeah, I think Bob Shake Jesse

1136
01:03:50,500 --> 01:03:54,700
handsome their right to artist.
Probably the the one big

1137
01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:58,000
interesting thing to me.
I think it I think the other

1138
01:03:58,000 --> 01:03:59,900
thing is it a little bit too.
Too early to tell, right?

1139
01:03:59,900 --> 01:04:03,300
It'd be one thing.
If, if it was an offensive line

1140
01:04:03,300 --> 01:04:06,500
coach that I've been here for a
while, Ron Cook still trying to

1141
01:04:06,500 --> 01:04:08,400
figure out who all work together
again.

1142
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,000
He's probably still trying to
figure out guys names, right?

1143
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:17,600
Remember the guys names, I think
I think Hanson and Schick at,

1144
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,100
Right?
Guard is what I would keep an

1145
01:04:19,100 --> 01:04:21,100
eye on in to see how that plays
out.

1146
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:25,100
But I also think it's
interesting league is the first

1147
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:28,800
semester for a lot of a lot of
these, some of these young early

1148
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,600
enrollees.
You know, we've been seeing a

1149
01:04:30,607 --> 01:04:32,800
lot of Lathe, Hannah guys like
that.

1150
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:35,600
Once they start to get more reps
under their belt.

1151
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:41,400
How do they kind of fit in?
I, I think we'll know more.

1152
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,400
We're going to see a little more
maybe in the spring game and

1153
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,300
then, you know, once fall Camp
rolls around, we'll get to see a

1154
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:51,900
whole lot more, as far as that
is concerned, but but right now,

1155
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:55,000
it's Stuff.
There is not a lot of, they're

1156
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,100
rotating a lot of the different
guys, right?

1157
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,500
It's not necessarily the same.
Same line of all the time.

1158
01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:04,100
They're moving guys around and
trying different things.

1159
01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:07,800
So, it's kind of tough to
answer, but I do think that, you

1160
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,200
know, couple weeks ago, Hanson
was kind of the guy, Right

1161
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,700
Guard?
Not shift playing a little more

1162
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:14,600
there with the starters and
curious, to see how that plays

1163
01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,800
out.
Yeah, I guess, kind of rolling

1164
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,200
into the next point that we
have.

1165
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:22,400
When you talk about the, a lot
of a rotating, That they're

1166
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:27,100
doing and you're seeing we know
that that group is young as far

1167
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:31,600
as the offensive line goes, but
are we seeing, or are you seeing

1168
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,000
some more reliability in the
numbers?

1169
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,400
Maybe, you know, hey, if we if
this guy goes down the guy

1170
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,400
behind him, is ready to go, a
little bit more than we've seen

1171
01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:43,900
last year.
Yeah, I think so.

1172
01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:47,100
I think a guy like Brody Meadows
for example, that's just one

1173
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:48,600
example.
I think he's got a little bit.

1174
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,500
He's got more experience under
his belt.

1175
01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:53,900
I think the depth is there a
little bit more.

1176
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:59,300
I'm curious to see what happens
in once the guys have a fun

1177
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:04,000
summer and to kind of figure out
what crook wants to do.

1178
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,300
As, you know, maybe he wants to
do something different

1179
01:06:06,300 --> 01:06:09,700
completely different than what
jogger, dope, right curious to

1180
01:06:09,700 --> 01:06:14,300
see how that kind of But I do
think I do feel a bit more

1181
01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:17,900
comfortable with the offensive
line that I think there's more

1182
01:06:17,900 --> 01:06:21,200
Talent there to be honest.
I think the kind of bolster that

1183
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,200
a little bit.
There's a lot of young Raw

1184
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:28,100
Talent, that's the thing and how
quickly those guys can develop,

1185
01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:29,700
I'm not sure.
But I do think, I feel a little

1186
01:06:29,700 --> 01:06:33,400
bit better about the time.
I think something else to notice

1187
01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:36,400
for some of these guys, this is
their third offensive line coach

1188
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:42,100
in three years, so that's a
whole lot of change.

1189
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:45,700
Cheers to see it.
How if at all that affects

1190
01:06:45,700 --> 01:06:48,200
anybody.
But, but yes, the answer your

1191
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,400
question.
I feel better about about it.

1192
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,100
I'm curious to see if those
young guys can continue to

1193
01:06:53,107 --> 01:06:54,700
develop over the next couple
months.

1194
01:06:54,900 --> 01:06:57,300
So where we get to the fall
where where when we talked to

1195
01:06:57,300 --> 01:07:00,500
Ron Kirk again Ron crook sitting
there going yeah I like how this

1196
01:07:00,500 --> 01:07:04,000
guy's improved and come along.
I got he got I thought he got a

1197
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,400
better grasp of stuff as the
spring ended stuff like that.

1198
01:07:07,700 --> 01:07:11,100
I think right now.
Crook is kind of just messing

1199
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:14,500
around and trying to figure out,
you know, who's comfortable

1200
01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:17,800
where?
Yeah, he said that and when he

1201
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,800
was interviewed after practice
one day, and I know you were

1202
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:23,100
out, but you guys have had any
better luck.

1203
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:27,900
First of all, love that you guys
have added Andy loved it, but he

1204
01:07:27,900 --> 01:07:30,700
talked about, he's like it's
fondant who gels.

1205
01:07:30,700 --> 01:07:33,800
It wasn't just saying I'm trying
to find the best five offensive

1206
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,200
lineman for Brian.
Who played it in tally who

1207
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,500
played right on the outside.
He That magic work.

1208
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,700
I'm not I'm looking for the five
that gel who and I put together

1209
01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:49,000
it just it flows the push you
know the punch to the right.

1210
01:07:49,100 --> 01:07:51,900
He's right on the next level
when you hear it wrong crook say

1211
01:07:51,900 --> 01:07:55,800
that it was like, okay he's
going to be mixing it up but you

1212
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,900
know most 01 coaches will do
that.

1213
01:07:58,100 --> 01:08:01,000
Now you mentioned the youth.
We got to thank you mentioned

1214
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,800
Brody Meadows.
Brody Meadows is only been here.

1215
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,100
One year.
You know you've got like Lance

1216
01:08:05,100 --> 01:08:09,300
Williams and chaplain in hundred
McLean so many guys.

1217
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:15,400
Guys, coming in their babies
basically and Meadows was

1218
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,800
working a lot at guard last year
and now he's working mostly

1219
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:18,700
tackle.
It seems.

1220
01:08:18,700 --> 01:08:21,800
So that's a that's a little
switch that I think you know,

1221
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:26,300
could be an answer to some of
our tackle depth concerns that

1222
01:08:26,300 --> 01:08:30,800
we were feeling like coming into
this spring practice so far.

1223
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,800
And you want to know what?
I'll say this aloud.

1224
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,800
David you can agree or disagree
with me.

1225
01:08:35,399 --> 01:08:37,600
I don't think we're going to be
worried about guys portly.

1226
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:43,800
Now, the offensive line room.
Oh man.

1227
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,200
I mean, you also got it.
Well, I wouldn't.

1228
01:08:53,300 --> 01:08:54,700
I would say now.
No.

1229
01:08:54,700 --> 01:08:57,700
I mean, I think, I think this is
kind of a breath of fresh air

1230
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,899
with the new offensive line,
coach right now.

1231
01:09:00,899 --> 01:09:06,100
Nobody's going to be portaling
out, but, but there are, you

1232
01:09:06,108 --> 01:09:10,300
know, come depending on what
happens after next season.

1233
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:14,000
I mean, I think they're like,
like, I guess you met you meant

1234
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,899
like right now.
Right now I would not expect

1235
01:09:16,899 --> 01:09:19,399
anything simply because it,
yeah.

1236
01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:24,500
Yeah.
Well and again so I you know,

1237
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,399
Force for a lot of the guys
would be Year to in the program,

1238
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:32,899
right there, s different
offensive line coach and if some

1239
01:09:32,899 --> 01:09:35,800
of them still are not playing
they're going to want to go

1240
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,200
somewhere and play naturally
right now.

1241
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,399
No, I think I think this is a
good opportunity for crook the

1242
01:09:42,407 --> 01:09:45,200
kind of refigure things and and
figure out.

1243
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,399
Okay maybe maybe Joe Rudolph had
this guy playing at this

1244
01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:50,100
position but he's more
comfortable here.

1245
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:54,300
R-right, Brian and tally.
You guys, you guys have played

1246
01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:56,600
the position, you know how
interchangeable some of that

1247
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,800
stuff could be at time.
So I'm curious to see how kind

1248
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:03,000
of Court kind of figures things
out and messes with in tries to

1249
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,900
come up with the best possible
combination.

1250
01:10:06,300 --> 01:10:08,300
Yeah, I mean there were times
like we're we would have

1251
01:10:08,300 --> 01:10:11,600
different offensive, Iver
tations depending on the type of

1252
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,800
opponent we were playing.
So I mean it's definitely a

1253
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:18,500
fluid situation especially this
point of the offseason were

1254
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,100
crooked still trying to figure
out.

1255
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:26,300
He has and guys are other than,
you know, a couple and trench

1256
01:10:26,300 --> 01:10:31,000
starters are still fairly green
heading into this year even

1257
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:32,400
though some of them have
experienced.

1258
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:36,100
So you know, outside of, you
know, more in Clements, there's

1259
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:40,800
not a ton of full season
experience that are that are

1260
01:10:40,808 --> 01:10:42,300
coming in here.
So it's going to be interesting

1261
01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:47,800
to see. you know how how the
line gels and, you know, if

1262
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:52,000
there's any more shuffling both
at the veteran position and some

1263
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,300
of the young guys that are kind
of fitting into, where we can

1264
01:10:54,300 --> 01:10:58,100
have that, you know, 88 man
rotation that you can kind of

1265
01:10:58,108 --> 01:11:01,400
feel comfortable with
Definitely, definitely.

1266
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,600
We've talked about a little bit
about the office of line and

1267
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:08,400
fluid situations, which come to
takes us to, you know, some

1268
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,100
other fluid situations which is
the running back room.

1269
01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:15,400
I mean, we've had a lot of
running backs come through here

1270
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,200
and had a lot of running backs
in that room.

1271
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,900
One of my guys Alabama boy
Kenji, transfer it out.

1272
01:11:21,900 --> 01:11:24,200
He's no longer with the team or
an angle, say transferred out

1273
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,500
he's no longer with the team,
don't know where he's going or

1274
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:32,000
if he's transferred yet.
But he's no longer with the team

1275
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:35,000
you've been watching them a
little bit, has there been any

1276
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:39,100
of those younger guys that has
kind of impressed you from

1277
01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:44,000
watching spring practice so far?
Well, I tell you what I mean, I

1278
01:11:44,008 --> 01:11:46,200
think Bryce to can chance black
or both.

1279
01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:48,300
I think they're both coming
along strong.

1280
01:11:48,300 --> 01:11:52,700
I think that whole room is is
coming along better.

1281
01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:54,500
I'm curious to see what happens
when we get into a game

1282
01:11:54,500 --> 01:11:56,300
situation.
But, but from what I can tell in

1283
01:11:56,308 --> 01:11:59,600
practice that whole rooms coming
along, I think the overall

1284
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,200
competition, Petition in that
room is better.

1285
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,000
And and guess what prime
mentioned Jeremiah Coney by

1286
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,600
name.
Obviously, he's an early

1287
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,600
enrollee kid I wouldn't, I don't
know, I wouldn't expect him to

1288
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:15,300
contribute right now, but I do
think I overall talent in that

1289
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:19,300
room is better and I think a lot
of the young guys, I think I

1290
01:12:19,308 --> 01:12:25,500
think Tony has some.
I think Tony has some promise, I

1291
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:29,500
think I think Duke and chance
black kind of be solid options.

1292
01:12:29,700 --> 01:12:31,400
I think.
It also runs through toot and

1293
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:37,600
Thomas I think that's probably
the logical guess but I do think

1294
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,800
there's a there's a bit more
depth there in the younger part

1295
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,600
of that room.
And I think there are a lot of

1296
01:12:43,608 --> 01:12:47,900
guys that kind of Might take
advantage of that opportunity.

1297
01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:50,900
Should it come their way?
Definitely definitely.

1298
01:12:50,900 --> 01:12:54,200
I like you said, kind of tooting
Thomas is what most people's

1299
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,100
thinking, and kind of knowing,
and looking at Thomas, has a

1300
01:12:57,100 --> 01:13:02,100
much different when he's in the
game, where much different team,

1301
01:13:02,300 --> 01:13:05,700
you know, no matter how bad or
good, we were how bad a good to

1302
01:13:05,700 --> 01:13:07,500
line was.
He's just, he runs different.

1303
01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:10,700
It's not very big, but when he's
in the game, he runs he wants

1304
01:13:10,700 --> 01:13:13,200
different.
But if you're in that room, you

1305
01:13:13,208 --> 01:13:16,400
got to understand.
I mean, he has been Injured a

1306
01:13:16,407 --> 01:13:18,600
lot.
He had been on the field a lot

1307
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,000
so a lot of those young guys
have to be taken, you know those

1308
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,900
reps thinking I could be next
man.

1309
01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:26,900
Up at any time, you know,
they're going, maybe wanting to

1310
01:13:26,900 --> 01:13:30,000
but it's the game of football,
somebody can twist her ankle and

1311
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:31,500
I need to go in and get a couple
of reps.

1312
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:35,000
All it takes is one play to
solidify yourself as getting

1313
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,500
some playing time.
So I'm hoping it, you know where

1314
01:13:38,500 --> 01:13:41,500
we are.
We are 3 and 18 last year.

1315
01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:46,200
These guys are looking at it
saying, hey I got a I got a Hard

1316
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,100
every rep to earn my playing
time because it's there.

1317
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:54,700
Then I feel like we got a pretty
decent for main group.

1318
01:13:54,700 --> 01:13:57,700
Now with tuned coming in and
obviously Bryce Duke had some

1319
01:13:57,700 --> 01:14:00,900
burn last year, we saw chance
black, get some burn last year.

1320
01:14:00,900 --> 01:14:04,500
So we got white guys that you
know have shown some flashes

1321
01:14:04,500 --> 01:14:07,500
here.
They're obviously behind tuning

1322
01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:10,100
and Thomas but again, Thomas
staying healthy is going to be

1323
01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:13,400
important.
Just from a deaf perspective

1324
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:17,000
because I think you know you do
you got tools That black and

1325
01:14:17,300 --> 01:14:19,400
embrace dude bring to the table
that are a little bit more

1326
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,600
change of pace compared to what?
What those two can do.

1327
01:14:22,900 --> 01:14:26,300
But yes, speaking of Thomas, I
mean he's a guy that always, you

1328
01:14:26,300 --> 01:14:28,500
give him the ball, he's going to
get you a little something.

1329
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:33,100
It's not it's not that, you
know, hit the line fall down

1330
01:14:33,100 --> 01:14:36,400
gained a half yard and try again
and he's gonna get you a little

1331
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,900
bit extra yardage there.
So you always appreciate that.

1332
01:14:39,300 --> 01:14:41,600
But let's talk about the new
coach, Elijah Brooks.

1333
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,700
He's got a track record of
getting good production from his

1334
01:14:44,700 --> 01:14:47,900
position group.
And we already talked a little

1335
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:50,700
bit about this which backs are
poised to see the biggest

1336
01:14:50,700 --> 01:14:53,500
benefit from having Brooks in
the room.

1337
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:58,100
It's tough because I think all
of them, to be honest, but I

1338
01:14:58,100 --> 01:15:02,100
think a lot of the young guys, I
mean, I think if you can give

1339
01:15:02,100 --> 01:15:05,800
them a better base early where
they can get off to the right

1340
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,200
foot and I wouldn't expect them
to maybe contribute right away,

1341
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:13,200
but I do think if you can start
to build that Foundation from

1342
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:17,800
the minute, they step on campus
to the point where, you know,

1343
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,700
tune and Tom is eventually going
to be going.

1344
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,700
And it's gonna be up to this
kind of core young guys in this

1345
01:15:23,700 --> 01:15:25,100
room.
Umm, I think they're they've all

1346
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:28,000
got some Talent.
I'm curious to see if they can

1347
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,700
kind of take those notes and
even challenge the guys adopted

1348
01:15:31,700 --> 01:15:35,700
and Thomas for those spots.
Nice.

1349
01:15:36,700 --> 01:15:38,100
Yeah.
And that's what you want.

1350
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:41,000
You always want the competition.
But, you know, for so long, we

1351
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:43,500
had way too many running backs
and now we're getting at that

1352
01:15:43,500 --> 01:15:47,100
perfect level of having the
right amount, having some

1353
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:50,900
experience, having some youth
obviously, potentially more gas,

1354
01:15:50,900 --> 01:15:52,500
to come in this recruiting
cycle.

1355
01:15:52,500 --> 01:15:56,100
And like you said, David Looking
at Brooks track record and then

1356
01:15:56,100 --> 01:15:58,700
setting a foundation of a few
come play.

1357
01:15:58,700 --> 01:16:02,300
For me, you will get production.
And if you're selling that and

1358
01:16:02,300 --> 01:16:04,700
Tune In The Hope is this year,
tooting Thomas.

1359
01:16:04,700 --> 01:16:07,600
You know, we can only hope go
Suggs and Jones.

1360
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,700
I mean that would be perfect
but, you know, just a good

1361
01:16:11,700 --> 01:16:14,300
combination.
I want to go to the wideout room

1362
01:16:14,300 --> 01:16:17,500
next though, because you said it
earlier, and you knew we were

1363
01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:19,300
going to get to it.
That room was overhauled.

1364
01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:23,400
I mean, completely overhauled
tons of recruit coming in to

1365
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:24,700
already.
On campus.

1366
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,100
Which five wide receivers.
And I did not do the three where

1367
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:32,200
it would be difficult for you.
I did five.

1368
01:16:33,300 --> 01:16:36,700
Who are you seeing getting the
most run first and then with

1369
01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:39,300
those guys?
Who are you noticing line up at

1370
01:16:39,300 --> 01:16:40,800
The X?
The y in the slot?

1371
01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:44,200
Well, it's not because wide
receivers kind of the one

1372
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,100
position that we haven't really
gotten a good look at and I hate

1373
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:50,200
to say it.
But but that's one of those

1374
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,600
things where fonts on mines.
I mentioned earlier, Ali

1375
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,000
Jennings and Jalen Lane into
kornfeld and are still trying to

1376
01:16:55,008 --> 01:16:57,600
figure out.
Wraps and frontal Minds.

1377
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,500
Does this thing where the new
guy started the bottom have to

1378
01:17:00,500 --> 01:17:03,000
work their way up?
I tell you two guys that have

1379
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,700
stood out to me or Gosnell and
Holloway Tucker hallway and see

1380
01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:08,600
you in the snow.
I've looked pretty good got snow

1381
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,600
especially he's trimmed a lot of
weight.

1382
01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:14,100
He looks quicker, he looks
leaner.

1383
01:17:16,300 --> 01:17:21,000
He overall looks better, I think
hallways look really good but

1384
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:24,500
besides that, we haven't really
gotten to see a lot of a lot of

1385
01:17:24,500 --> 01:17:27,500
them that stuff a lot.
It just comes against are a lot

1386
01:17:27,500 --> 01:17:31,800
of, a lot of their, their reps.
You can't really tell much

1387
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,700
against are everybody looks good
against are?

1388
01:17:33,700 --> 01:17:44,300
I'm sure sure all of us would
so, I think it's, yeah, but I

1389
01:17:44,300 --> 01:17:53,000
feel like some of the new guys I
should say, I think Felton, and

1390
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:57,200
Lane, and Jennings wall.
Once we see them, maybe in the

1391
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,600
spring game, will get a good
glimpse of.

1392
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:01,500
Okay?
These are the guys who are

1393
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:06,800
really showing out and are
really coming along the way.

1394
01:18:07,300 --> 01:18:10,500
I think, gosh, now in a hallway
or have done, a really good job,

1395
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:13,300
in terms of setting themselves
up for Success this year.

1396
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:20,700
And as far as as far as a young
guys concerned, I've been

1397
01:18:20,700 --> 01:18:23,500
impressed with aiding Green from
the few glimpses of got to see

1398
01:18:23,500 --> 01:18:25,500
of him.
It seems like he's got these

1399
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:27,500
really Quick got some good
hands.

1400
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,900
There are, I'm trying to
remember, I don't remember how

1401
01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:33,600
many freshman wide receivers are
on campus.

1402
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:39,200
I don't think it can be many,
but I do think that, that, that

1403
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,600
whole room is has been
overhauled.

1404
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,800
And there are a lot more
talented, guys.

1405
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,000
I mean, you just look at the
three transfers Jennings Felton,

1406
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:51,500
and, and Lane those three
transfers that's more depth than

1407
01:18:51,500 --> 01:18:54,500
Virginia Tech really had all
last year in the wide receiver.

1408
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,900
So I'm curious Ceci, we haven't
really got a good chance to see

1409
01:18:57,900 --> 01:19:00,400
how those guys fit in with
everybody else yet but I think

1410
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,600
the spring game will be a really
really good opportunity to see.

1411
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:07,200
Okay, here's how this this
receiver can get separation

1412
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,600
against this guy or oh, hey,
this is, this is kind of a

1413
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:12,900
lineup all hanging with main
lines up in the slot.

1414
01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:14,700
That makes a lot of sense stuff
like that.

1415
01:19:14,900 --> 01:19:17,100
Well, couple of things that you
said that I thought were really,

1416
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:21,400
really interesting because of
course, that's why your own BCP

1417
01:19:21,700 --> 01:19:24,700
and you're our boy and you
giving us some jewels that, I

1418
01:19:24,708 --> 01:19:28,900
don't think nobody even knew.
New, you said Minds, when he

1419
01:19:28,907 --> 01:19:31,300
brings wide receivers in, he
likes to let them fight from the

1420
01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:34,300
bottom.
Hey, why we may be doing that in

1421
01:19:34,300 --> 01:19:36,100
the quarterback room?
I don't know.

1422
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:40,100
Y'all been going crazy on
Twitter, you might be coming in

1423
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:41,800
fighting from the bottom in the
quarterback room.

1424
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,200
But anyway, that's not what I
wanted to Pivot to you.

1425
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:48,800
Also said, 18 greens.
Name, we had Mateo on here a

1426
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:52,000
couple of weeks ago and he
mentioned that name as well.

1427
01:19:52,300 --> 01:19:56,300
So I know you said I think you
said you liked his He's got

1428
01:19:56,300 --> 01:20:00,700
really good hands.
I'll just ask what you see in

1429
01:20:00,700 --> 01:20:03,600
him in person.
Do you think that he has the

1430
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,700
body size to play right now if
we needed him to play because I

1431
01:20:07,700 --> 01:20:11,700
thought he was a little bit more
slender before, I said some

1432
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:14,700
woman, look up his height and
weight on the Virginia Tech

1433
01:20:14,700 --> 01:20:19,600
depth chart so I so I know for
sure what I'm talking about.

1434
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:28,100
Gosh whatnot, but talk about
Aiden green, he is 26. 62 170.

1435
01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:30,800
He's got the height.
I think he's a little.

1436
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,800
I'm trying to picture him here.
Really good catch the other day.

1437
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,600
Now, again, a lot of these
caches are coming in Zaire, but

1438
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:43,300
I was impressed with just His
body in the way it's set up like

1439
01:20:43,300 --> 01:20:45,100
he's put himself in a good
position.

1440
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:50,400
I think he's learning.
I think if he, if he continues

1441
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,200
to get in the weight room over
the summer, I think he probably

1442
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,000
has a pretty good chance to be
in the rotation.

1443
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,200
That would be my perspective of
it.

1444
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,400
Next time we get a chance to
talk to fontelle mind.

1445
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,000
I think that's one of the guys,
I'm curious asking about how

1446
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:07,000
he's coming along because it
seems like he's taking some

1447
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,800
pretty big strides and, of
course, he was a, I don't know.

1448
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:15,500
He was a big-time recruit but
he's somebody that that Tech

1449
01:21:15,500 --> 01:21:17,700
went to what I believe.
Tennessee, right.

1450
01:21:17,700 --> 01:21:18,100
Yeah.
Knock.

1451
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:20,400
So he's an actual kid, you're
going to go to Tennessee to get

1452
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,600
him, right?
So committed to, he was

1453
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,000
committed to, I think
Cincinnati.

1454
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,200
Yeah, before.
So he's impressed me so far.

1455
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,900
I think he probably put a little
more weight on, but I think his

1456
01:21:31,900 --> 01:21:35,000
hands his quickness.
I think that's been, that's that

1457
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,600
stood out to me.
As far as he's been, pretty good

1458
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,400
in those areas so far.
All right, let me ask about one

1459
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,600
more before.
For we move on too tight ends.

1460
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:47,600
I'm curious to see what you
think is Avion Bradshaw at this

1461
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,800
point.
In Spring practice.

1462
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:53,500
I think he's put on a little bit
more weight, which I think is

1463
01:21:53,500 --> 01:21:58,000
good considering he was very,
very 150 155 last year, when

1464
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,000
they pour it on roster.
Yeah, I think I think he's

1465
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,500
looked better.
I think putting on weight

1466
01:22:03,500 --> 01:22:11,000
certainly helped it's tough
because Again a lot of the wide

1467
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:15,200
receivers or it's kind of all
over the place I think they're

1468
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:16,600
still trying to figure out the
rotation.

1469
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:20,400
I think we'll know more when we
watch a spring game green just

1470
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,000
kind of stood out to me because
he's one of those few young guys

1471
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,200
that are currently in.
That room guys would know

1472
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:26,900
experience really at the college
level.

1473
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,000
I saw some ketchup ass the other
day and I looked up I looked up

1474
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:31,900
my roster and was like Hey
That's angry.

1475
01:22:31,900 --> 01:22:33,600
Okay, that was dumped Rica
catch.

1476
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:38,200
I'm impressed, Turner Bradshaw,
I think he's, I think he's been

1477
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,000
okay.
I think I Continuing to grow.

1478
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,500
I think that's important, right?
Coaches always say most

1479
01:22:44,500 --> 01:22:46,900
important times between your
freshman and sophomore years,

1480
01:22:46,900 --> 01:22:48,400
that's where you make the
biggest growth.

1481
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,800
So I'm curious to see if you can
continue to get in the way when

1482
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,400
we get bigger.
But I think he's taken some

1483
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:57,100
strides, you know, I got and I
think the wide receiver room is,

1484
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:03,500
I think that, that group there
might be an odd, me an hour or

1485
01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:06,800
two in terms of, in terms of
portaling, we'll see what

1486
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:11,900
happens when The depth chart is
set if that's what you want to

1487
01:23:11,900 --> 01:23:12,800
call it.
Yeah.

1488
01:23:13,900 --> 01:23:18,000
After the spring game, I think
we might see a guy or to kind of

1489
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,300
leave that room because again,
there are a whole lot of

1490
01:23:21,300 --> 01:23:28,200
scholarship guys in that room
but like guys, like Duan Lofton,

1491
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:30,300
a guy who's been around for a
while, right?

1492
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:34,800
Christian Moss, two guys and
that those are just two

1493
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,200
examples.
I'm giving you guys are guys who

1494
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,700
have been around for a while.
Are they?

1495
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,200
I don't want to say they haven't
stood out but I think God's now

1496
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,400
and I'll waive both made but put
on a good impression this year.

1497
01:23:47,700 --> 01:23:54,700
I'm curious to see if Lofton and
Moss if they can continue to

1498
01:23:54,700 --> 01:23:57,800
develop or if they're going to
get passed over by some of those

1499
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:02,200
younger guys, right.
I don't know what fontelle Minds

1500
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:03,600
thinks about those guys right
now.

1501
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,900
We haven't talked to him in a
while but that's definitely the

1502
01:24:06,900 --> 01:24:08,300
wide receiver room.
Is definitely one of them.

1503
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:09,800
Things.
I'm keeping an eye on.

1504
01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:13,600
You come the spring game and and
once we get into August just to

1505
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,900
see how it all shakes out
because to be honest, that's one

1506
01:24:15,900 --> 01:24:17,900
of the reasons why Tech
struggled last year on

1507
01:24:17,900 --> 01:24:20,200
offensively, right?
It was Caleb Smith and everybody

1508
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:24,600
else and you need more guys to
kind of step up and and so far I

1509
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:28,000
like what I've seen from gas now
and Holloway, and I know he's

1510
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:30,100
young, but if they didn't bring
continued Trend in the right

1511
01:24:30,100 --> 01:24:32,700
direction, I think that's good.
And then he got that core of

1512
01:24:32,700 --> 01:24:34,800
those three transfers that I
think can all come in and make a

1513
01:24:34,808 --> 01:24:36,300
big impact.
Yeah.

1514
01:24:36,300 --> 01:24:38,300
And Caleb was definitely more of
a straight line guy.

1515
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,100
I feel like we didn't have a
whole lot of Separation

1516
01:24:41,500 --> 01:24:45,100
laterally through that, there's
like mid-range routes last year.

1517
01:24:45,100 --> 01:24:47,600
Hopefully some of these guys can
kind of step into that type of

1518
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,100
role.
Let's pivot over two tight ends

1519
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:53,800
here based on your observation.
So far.

1520
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,000
This is a standard question.
This is a staying question by

1521
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:01,500
the way from Brian.
How many different packages?

1522
01:25:01,500 --> 01:25:04,500
Do we have that you've seen so
far?

1523
01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:08,300
We've got Gallo in right on the
field of the same time in other.

1524
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:13,100
Any packages where we're taking?
You think we would take right

1525
01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:17,600
off the field.
Fully I guess right?

1526
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,700
And Gallo off the field fully at
any point.

1527
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,300
I'm trying to think I guess it's
more of a spring game question.

1528
01:25:25,300 --> 01:25:31,000
We haven't really gotten to see
a lot of them run full stuff.

1529
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,100
We didn't get to see some
blocking stuff.

1530
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,200
Okay, must have been two weeks
ago when I was here last meeting

1531
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:39,800
with Brian Davis and a lot of
it.

1532
01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,800
There were a couple things with
a couple things with gallo and

1533
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,400
right working together.
There were a couple things with

1534
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,300
one tight end here.
One tight end there.

1535
01:25:47,900 --> 01:25:50,000
I do think it's important to
note that right was a little

1536
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,700
bit.
Nicked up, he's dealing with an

1537
01:25:52,708 --> 01:25:54,700
injury over the, he's been
dealing with the injury.

1538
01:25:54,700 --> 01:25:57,100
He was doing some solo stuff
when we watch practice on

1539
01:25:57,100 --> 01:26:01,100
Tuesday, so he hasn't been been
completely go but we all knew it

1540
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:03,000
wasn't full go Tuesday.
I'll think.

1541
01:26:03,100 --> 01:26:08,300
Yeah, we honestly don't have a
whole lot of the stuff they're

1542
01:26:08,300 --> 01:26:12,100
doing, but from what I can tell,
the few things I could tell

1543
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:14,300
seems like they're trying to get
both of them of all at the same

1544
01:26:14,300 --> 01:26:16,900
time.
I think it'll kind of be a mix

1545
01:26:16,900 --> 01:26:20,900
and match thing I think Gallows
probably better blocker, I think

1546
01:26:20,900 --> 01:26:22,600
rights Ali.
Better receiver.

1547
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,100
That's BB my opinion.
That's what I'd have to guess.

1548
01:26:27,100 --> 01:26:29,100
But I think if you can get both
of them on the field the same

1549
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:31,000
time that could be a pretty big
weapon.

1550
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,500
You guys can use and then
speaking of that, you do you

1551
01:26:34,508 --> 01:26:39,000
just brought up blocking?
Like, besides we know Gallows a

1552
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,200
pretty good.
Blocker besides Gallo.

1553
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,500
Do we have any other titian's?
It's been standing out blocking

1554
01:26:44,500 --> 01:26:50,900
that you've seen.
So I think yeah, I was gonna

1555
01:26:50,900 --> 01:26:54,200
say, got Stephen does know.
But Benji guys know I've been

1556
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:57,300
impressed with with Benji God's.
Now, you know, obviously had a

1557
01:26:57,300 --> 01:27:01,400
big injury but I think both in
terms of blocking and receiving

1558
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:05,300
he's come up and he's continued
to improve which kind of says, a

1559
01:27:05,308 --> 01:27:07,900
lot about, you know, mental
toughness, another the the way

1560
01:27:07,900 --> 01:27:11,900
that he's able to kind of you'll
fight through those injuries, I

1561
01:27:11,907 --> 01:27:14,100
think he's looked pretty good at
blog, nothing rights gotten

1562
01:27:14,100 --> 01:27:15,900
better from what I've noticed.
East.

1563
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,300
Besides that.
That's kind of been the top

1564
01:27:19,300 --> 01:27:21,800
three guys, right?
It's been Gallo, right?

1565
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:28,400
Kind of a 1A 1B and then I think
Benji got snails kind of been

1566
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:33,200
that guy right behind them.
And I think all three of those

1567
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,200
guys are probably guys, that
that they feel comfortable with

1568
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,300
in terms of blocking.
You know what?

1569
01:27:39,300 --> 01:27:44,400
I think that's been a big part
of it again, I think that's one

1570
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,400
of those things will know more
with the spring game 1.

1571
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,900
See those guys in action in
terms of them, getting off the

1572
01:27:50,900 --> 01:27:52,500
edge and actually having to put
somebody on there.

1573
01:27:52,500 --> 01:27:56,000
But right once they have an
opportunity to do that, it's a

1574
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:57,800
little bit different when you're
when you're blocking the guy

1575
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,800
with a big giant pad and
practice.

1576
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,500
So but I but I liked what I've
seen so far.

1577
01:28:03,100 --> 01:28:05,300
Yeah absolutely.
And I'm going to my buddy right

1578
01:28:05,300 --> 01:28:07,800
here talked about Vision, have
in the town of town and then she

1579
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:09,700
was illegitimate for star.
Yeah.

1580
01:28:09,700 --> 01:28:11,000
Before his injuries and
everything.

1581
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,500
So Benji was recruited by a lot
of different schools and with

1582
01:28:13,500 --> 01:28:17,300
his size like 65 240, you know,
straight out of the gate.

1583
01:28:17,500 --> 01:28:20,500
Wait, that doesn't shock me that
you say that.

1584
01:28:20,500 --> 01:28:24,300
He's that next guy and I think
just from a perspective of us as

1585
01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:28,000
fans, if you tell me after Gallo
graduates this year, it's Benji

1586
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,500
Gosnell and Daquan writer 12
tight end room that can be sick.

1587
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:36,100
Sure, because of how damn leg
those guys at how nasty they can

1588
01:28:36,100 --> 01:28:39,200
be.
Yeah.

1589
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:43,500
And I like that because I mean,
I always like to see a good

1590
01:28:43,700 --> 01:28:47,600
balance of tight end Talent.
So you telling me Benji's Too

1591
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,200
long.
He's going to kind of be your

1592
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,200
more balanced guy that can block
guy that can be a threat in the

1593
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:57,000
receiving game, Daquan more, the
heavy caring and the rescind,

1594
01:28:57,300 --> 01:29:00,500
the receiving game by itself and
then obviously Galligan kind of

1595
01:29:00,500 --> 01:29:03,700
work, they're a little bit more
in the end line situation.

1596
01:29:03,700 --> 01:29:06,400
So if we can kind of mix and
match those and make that work,

1597
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:08,000
I like that.
But let's move over to the

1598
01:29:08,008 --> 01:29:11,200
defensive line.
Looking at the returning

1599
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:15,700
production and depth at
defensive end, is it time to

1600
01:29:15,700 --> 01:29:19,800
worry about this unit?
In 2023, or have you seen guys

1601
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,700
kind of take that next step so
far?

1602
01:29:21,700 --> 01:29:25,200
This offseason I tell you what,
that's one of the spots.

1603
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:29,400
I'm worried about the defensive
end out mostly because a lot of

1604
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:31,800
it's healing experience guys
that they never had to be the

1605
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,100
starter, right?
I think, Cole Nelson.

1606
01:29:35,100 --> 01:29:41,300
CJ McRae, Jordan McDonald.
Whichever McDonald twin is.

1607
01:29:42,500 --> 01:29:44,200
Jordan sounds right?
Yes, Jordan.

1608
01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:49,100
I think a lot of those guys have
They've got good talent.

1609
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,600
I just think a lot of them never
had to be that defensive end

1610
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,800
before that starter the one that
has to the one who has to play

1611
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,900
snap efforts not ever snap.
That's what I worry about.

1612
01:30:00,900 --> 01:30:06,200
I think maybe a little bit I
think there could be more depth

1613
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:07,500
there.
I think that's one of the big

1614
01:30:07,500 --> 01:30:11,300
problems that that you know JC
price obviously brought in

1615
01:30:11,300 --> 01:30:15,200
multiple guys at tackle in the
last class didn't really bring

1616
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:20,400
in any guys in this year's class
and thin layer.

1617
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:23,000
The Freshman Ishmael from from
Canada.

1618
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,300
I believe he does arm in a
sling.

1619
01:30:25,300 --> 01:30:28,500
The other day of practice.
He had he had an injury so

1620
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,400
That's a spot where I'm not
worried.

1621
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:37,500
I'm a little bit questioning
concern, maybe, I think you

1622
01:30:37,500 --> 01:30:39,500
could use.
I'm curious to see how that

1623
01:30:39,500 --> 01:30:43,800
plays out.
And if, if those guys had taken

1624
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:47,000
the next step, right?
We know how good the taxes are,

1625
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,900
we know how experienced they
are.

1626
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:52,100
Can call Nelson and CJ, McRae,
and Jordan McDonald.

1627
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:54,900
And those guys on the edge, take
the next step because if they

1628
01:30:54,900 --> 01:30:58,200
can it's going to be a long,
she's on the offensive line.

1629
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,900
But there's not a whole lot
behind them necessarily and I

1630
01:31:02,907 --> 01:31:06,200
think that's kind of a problem a
little bit.

1631
01:31:08,700 --> 01:31:12,800
I will say I mean Keyshawn
Burgos I think is it guy who

1632
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:15,500
he's got more reps with the
kind?

1633
01:31:15,500 --> 01:31:18,300
I think with the twos and I
think he could have a solid role

1634
01:31:18,300 --> 01:31:20,300
but I did think it was
interesting.

1635
01:31:20,300 --> 01:31:26,200
The other day Jordan McDonald
was taking the two snaps at the

1636
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:29,700
right end and then with the
threes he moved over to left and

1637
01:31:29,700 --> 01:31:35,400
which kind of tells you that
they're really only four or five

1638
01:31:35,500 --> 01:31:37,700
guys that they're comfortable
with.

1639
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:42,400
Oh.
Oh, so and again, but here's the

1640
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:45,300
thing, maybe I mean you know,
maybe one of those guys call

1641
01:31:45,300 --> 01:31:47,700
Nelson's he immigrated come out
and have a fantastic.

1642
01:31:47,700 --> 01:31:49,300
You're right.
We don't know.

1643
01:31:50,300 --> 01:31:53,800
But I think they lack that one.
True veteran.

1644
01:31:53,900 --> 01:31:56,000
Who's been there before and done
it?

1645
01:31:56,100 --> 01:31:59,000
I should add that filled area
Spain and he's kind of going to

1646
01:31:59,008 --> 01:32:01,600
be a hybrid guy a little bit.
He's still dealing with an

1647
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,400
injury to and then they get,
they get James, your net in,

1648
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,100
which I think is important,
which I think adds a little bit

1649
01:32:07,100 --> 01:32:10,200
more depth.
But, but Now, there's not really

1650
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:13,700
that experience guy.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

1651
01:32:13,700 --> 01:32:16,100
When you look at it, you don't
have a guy that you can just

1652
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:18,400
point to and say that guy is
going to make you a play when

1653
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,000
you need.
It is, you know, we saw last

1654
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,000
year There Was, You Know, up and
down performances even even for

1655
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,100
a guy that was experience like
Taiwan garbett.

1656
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:32,500
And, you know, I just think that
if we can find someone that can

1657
01:32:32,500 --> 01:32:35,500
can be that at playmaker, that
guy that can get to the

1658
01:32:35,500 --> 01:32:38,000
quarterback this year, because
that's something.

1659
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:40,900
We've And of really haven't had
a little in a couple years now.

1660
01:32:40,900 --> 01:32:47,000
So I'd like to see maybe one of
those guys come on and be able

1661
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:51,600
to take over that role
definitely definitely and I'll

1662
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,600
looking at the defensive tackle
position.

1663
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:58,600
We know we have a little bit
more size and a little bit more,

1664
01:32:58,700 --> 01:33:01,500
you know, veteran presence there
when you look at you know

1665
01:33:01,500 --> 01:33:03,800
Foodland Kendricks and Pollock.
Thank God.

1666
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:10,200
They came back but have you seen
some You seen anybody pushing to

1667
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,500
get into the to deep behind
those guys that we kind of know

1668
01:33:12,500 --> 01:33:14,600
we're going to see.
And again like we talked about,

1669
01:33:14,600 --> 01:33:19,600
I think they're sliding the what
Spain I think that's lying pain

1670
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:23,100
down inside as well.
So we got some things going

1671
01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:24,300
there.
But have you seen anybody

1672
01:33:24,300 --> 01:33:26,400
pushing it to try to get it back
to date?

1673
01:33:27,500 --> 01:33:31,300
Yeah, well I think now Wilfred
Benes was the guy there last

1674
01:33:31,300 --> 01:33:34,500
year.
I've been impressed with Malachi

1675
01:33:34,500 --> 01:33:38,200
Madison and I think he's kind of
pushed that envelope.

1676
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:42,300
I think he, I think he could
make a really good case to be

1677
01:33:42,300 --> 01:33:46,200
that fourth guy, I think Lamar
logged under Givens aren't

1678
01:33:46,200 --> 01:33:52,000
necessarily that far behind.
Now, I'm not saying I'm not

1679
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,000
saying, I would expect them to
play, but I think hitting those

1680
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,700
in the next two guys that are
kind of pushing that group.

1681
01:33:58,500 --> 01:34:01,300
There's certainly much more
depth at tackle, and there is an

1682
01:34:01,300 --> 01:34:03,600
end.
I'll say that, but I think

1683
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,400
Malcolm Madison could be that
fourth guy.

1684
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:08,200
I legitimately think that I
think he's come a long way.

1685
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:15,200
Way and I JC prices is kind of
haven't talked to Jason a while

1686
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:20,900
but but but he's a guy thing to
JC's, pretty high on that that

1687
01:34:20,900 --> 01:34:24,300
has a lot of potential if he can
continue to determine the right

1688
01:34:24,300 --> 01:34:29,100
direction and I think he's a guy
that can give pain a run for his

1689
01:34:29,100 --> 01:34:31,200
money for that fourth spot.
Cool.

1690
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,500
So I David David's like,
tempered my expectations woes.

1691
01:34:36,100 --> 01:34:38,100
Yeah, what you did?
Which what we said earlier?

1692
01:34:38,300 --> 01:34:41,100
Though, it's the Freshman to
sophomore years is, where you

1693
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:44,000
will see, guys, take the steps.
And when you hear it, when I

1694
01:34:44,008 --> 01:34:47,700
hear you say Malachi mask, we
saw him last year, he is a big

1695
01:34:47,700 --> 01:34:50,400
body guy.
We know Lamar law is a big body.

1696
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:53,400
Gang Gunner has the body and Cal
he's been preaching all along

1697
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,100
with got to get bigger on the
trenches.

1698
01:34:55,100 --> 01:34:58,400
And when you say, those guys are
looking better, I hear that,

1699
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:00,400
that freshman and sophomore
things are clicking.

1700
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:03,800
They're pushing more.
So I mean, not get, I don't

1701
01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:05,400
expect.
And by all means, if they start

1702
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:09,400
this year, that's great.
But, you know, The point I got

1703
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:14,300
excited about is knowing that
when Pollard and when Kendricks

1704
01:35:14,300 --> 01:35:17,500
are gone next year, it's not
just pflug out there.

1705
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,600
You've got some young guy
pushing for playing time and

1706
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,700
these other two are starting to
make that steady rise up.

1707
01:35:23,500 --> 01:35:25,800
And I do really worried about
the end, like you mention her.

1708
01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:28,800
I think we all do, and I think,
if you see there's one portal

1709
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:33,100
addition this year after spring,
it's got to be Edge without a

1710
01:35:33,108 --> 01:35:35,600
doubt.
Now, let's flip to the

1711
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:39,100
linebacker in because I think
that room Does not need any

1712
01:35:39,100 --> 01:35:40,800
portal, guys.
I mean, goodness gracious.

1713
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:43,000
Jr.
Walker, you know, left the

1714
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:47,800
program, but it's still loaded
all over the place, but the big

1715
01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:50,500
questions that might, like,
who's going to play there?

1716
01:35:50,900 --> 01:35:52,600
Is it Tuesday?
Oh, is it Keller?

1717
01:35:53,100 --> 01:35:56,000
Which of the young guys are
making the big push for that

1718
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:57,600
spot?
This spring?

1719
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,400
Well Jaden McDonald's working
here a couple of weeks ago that

1720
01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,300
was when Tisdale was out, Walker
was Stone program.

1721
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,200
It's changed a little bit since
Jaden color was taking the one.

1722
01:36:08,300 --> 01:36:13,900
Upset that Mike the other day
and pride as been impressed with

1723
01:36:13,900 --> 01:36:16,400
them.
And I think Keller's starting to

1724
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,200
actually come a long.
I think before, he said so much

1725
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:22,200
potential, right?
You've heard everybody Rave

1726
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,000
about him time and time again.
I think it's gotten to the point

1727
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:29,500
where where he's really starting
to show that he knows what he's

1728
01:36:29,500 --> 01:36:34,300
doing and he can kind of digest
the information and help people

1729
01:36:34,300 --> 01:36:37,300
adjust from prai specifically
referred to him, instance, and

1730
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:41,600
practice. the other day, where
Keller noticed that the

1731
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:46,200
defensive line was was kind of
lined up, not incorrectly, so to

1732
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:49,300
speak but they were off a little
bit and he noticed that and

1733
01:36:49,300 --> 01:36:53,300
correct them and was able to be
in his bright spot right price.

1734
01:36:53,300 --> 01:36:56,200
I was kind of concerned with him
just being able to get down will

1735
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,100
and he's gone been able to kind
of get that will and Mike a

1736
01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:02,100
little bit.
So I think I think Taylor might

1737
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:06,000
be the guy at Mike, as far as
young guys are concerned,

1738
01:37:06,900 --> 01:37:10,500
obviously Tisdale still there
and he missed practice the I was

1739
01:37:10,500 --> 01:37:14,200
a couple weeks ago and then, of
course, I would go on and not

1740
01:37:14,200 --> 01:37:19,100
Tisdale's back as I'm back.
I think he was at practice last

1741
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:24,000
week is as well, but but I think
it kind of could be the color

1742
01:37:24,300 --> 01:37:28,500
Tisdale punch at 12 and they
say, in no specific order.

1743
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:32,400
But I think Keller is coming
along along way which bodes,

1744
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:36,800
well, because they've got
they've got a good, a good will.

1745
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,100
They've got a Good Sam, right?
They got Kelly loss.

1746
01:37:40,300 --> 01:37:43,000
And count the drinking.
Those are two talented guys.

1747
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:45,900
If you can figure out the Mike,
you're in good shape.

1748
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:49,400
Speaking of that.
So you know you talked about

1749
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:55,300
loss and you talked about the
other positions there, it's Sam

1750
01:37:55,300 --> 01:37:58,100
and we'll what is the most
intriguing?

1751
01:37:58,100 --> 01:38:01,800
Three mankind combo that you've
seen at practice so far.

1752
01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:07,200
I think it's got to be the
Jenkins color Lawson because

1753
01:38:07,900 --> 01:38:11,200
those guys fly around the field
and they're fun to watch.

1754
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:14,200
I mean, we all saw what Lawson
did last year towards the end of

1755
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:20,000
the year, just his Length and
his defensive presence but

1756
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,100
counted Jenkins.
I think hadn't had a really

1757
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,700
wants a quiet year maybe.
But you kind of had quiet really

1758
01:38:25,700 --> 01:38:29,800
good year last year and I think
of kellard mediated.

1759
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:33,000
I think those three can be
really formidable and that's not

1760
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:38,800
just You know, that's not just
this year's this year's group,

1761
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,500
but that's a couple of years
down the line, right?

1762
01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,200
I'm trying to think, okay, she
can to Jenkins I believe has

1763
01:38:47,300 --> 01:38:50,400
maybe one more year.
I don't have it up in front of

1764
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:57,800
me, but I do think that Lawson
and color are your guys and I

1765
01:38:57,800 --> 01:39:00,100
think they kind of fly around
the field.

1766
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,400
They're, they're very young.
They've got the energy.

1767
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:06,900
They've got the ability to kind
of cover all this ground that

1768
01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:09,800
man Jenkins, I think that's
going to be really intriguing.

1769
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,700
If it plays out that way, I
think that's going to be a real

1770
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:17,300
intriguing Trio.
He is a legend.

1771
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:23,000
He is the man and Jenkins is a
senior this year, so he was

1772
01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:27,600
there during covid.
So he came in 2019 2020.

1773
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:31,100
So he has a covid year left.
David So Jenkins, technically

1774
01:39:31,100 --> 01:39:35,200
has two years left.
So I mean skiing more excited,

1775
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,500
What You Got Talent?
Um, listen to him, talk about

1776
01:39:38,500 --> 01:39:43,900
just the people that we have,
that could fill in these spots,

1777
01:39:43,900 --> 01:39:48,200
has is intriguing and Siding
because I just keep hearing

1778
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,100
length length length, you know
what I'm saying?

1779
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:53,900
You've got people that of course
athleticism to you know, Kelly

1780
01:39:53,900 --> 01:39:57,500
Lawson is a much different type
player than someone like a Dax

1781
01:39:57,500 --> 01:39:59,300
hollifield.
No disrespect to Dax.

1782
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:03,000
I think Dex did what he was
supposed to do really well, but

1783
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:07,600
when you have an athlete that
you can put it linebacker you're

1784
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,000
able to do some different things
and I think that that's going to

1785
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:14,700
be fun to watch another question
that I guess I have for you

1786
01:40:14,700 --> 01:40:18,700
David.
It's just Name one player in

1787
01:40:18,700 --> 01:40:22,400
this this linebacker unit that
maybe a lot of folks in Virginia

1788
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:24,200
Tech Twitter, Virginia Tech fan
base.

1789
01:40:26,100 --> 01:40:30,000
Don't know that it's just not on
our radar that could crack this

1790
01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:34,500
this too deep going into the
fall why I think there are a lot

1791
01:40:34,500 --> 01:40:38,300
of young guys coming in right
over the summer.

1792
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:41,400
You got a Saint Stephen's to
whirring Copeland Caleb Woodson

1793
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:44,100
who you guys mentioned earlier.
Don't forget about Stone

1794
01:40:44,100 --> 01:40:46,300
Schneider the VMI.
Into right?

1795
01:40:46,300 --> 01:40:48,700
I don't know.
I don't know what what his in

1796
01:40:48,700 --> 01:40:52,700
the impact is going to be.
But I think I think going into

1797
01:40:52,700 --> 01:40:55,300
the fall, there's going to be a
hole with those four, guys.

1798
01:40:55,300 --> 01:41:00,600
I mentioned the linebacker room,
it's going to be a pretty deep

1799
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:02,400
room in my opinion.
I think there's going to be a

1800
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:06,500
lot of a lot of talent there and
here's the other thing, right?

1801
01:41:06,900 --> 01:41:11,000
Snyder obviously is an older
guy.

1802
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,300
Only going to be here for a year
Tisdale's.

1803
01:41:13,300 --> 01:41:16,000
Not after this year chhanchhan
does one more year left Left.

1804
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:18,800
Everybody else is multiple years
ago, legibility left.

1805
01:41:18,900 --> 01:41:21,700
This is a line back room for the
future, right?

1806
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:25,100
I know that didn't exactly into
your question, but I think I'm

1807
01:41:25,100 --> 01:41:28,300
curious to see how those three
freshmen when they get here,

1808
01:41:28,300 --> 01:41:32,100
when they get to campus, where
do they call you fall in line?

1809
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:35,300
And I think McDonald is another
guy.

1810
01:41:35,300 --> 01:41:39,100
I'm very curious to watch, you
know, it's going to be hard for

1811
01:41:39,100 --> 01:41:41,300
him.
I think to, to get number one

1812
01:41:41,300 --> 01:41:44,500
rep, potentially just because of
the other talent in the room,

1813
01:41:45,700 --> 01:41:49,700
But I do think, you know, he's
come a long way and he and his

1814
01:41:49,700 --> 01:41:51,400
brother.
Obviously, you know, they're

1815
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,700
really hard working, guys, and I
think they could both play

1816
01:41:54,700 --> 01:41:57,000
potentially big roles.
So this is a linebacker.

1817
01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,600
And I think, for the future for
Virginia Tech, he has a

1818
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:02,400
McDonald's seem like they picked
up the defense really quick and

1819
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:05,500
that helped them get kind of on
that feel pretty quickly.

1820
01:42:05,500 --> 01:42:08,300
And obviously, you know, there
are other talented guys around

1821
01:42:08,300 --> 01:42:10,500
them and some of that starting
to kind of rise to the top.

1822
01:42:10,500 --> 01:42:13,500
So yeah, that definitely
explains that, for sure.

1823
01:42:15,900 --> 01:42:20,000
I'm interested to see what what
stone can do as well just

1824
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:24,700
because, you know, we know the
numbers that he put up

1825
01:42:25,500 --> 01:42:31,000
elsewhere, so Ken that translate
in if that does translate, does

1826
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:37,500
that and just another layer to
that at Mike battle, you know,

1827
01:42:37,500 --> 01:42:41,600
once once fall practice starts,
everybody who doesn't know a

1828
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:45,000
buddy Robbie that usually on the
show with us.

1829
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:48,700
And Is in the comments.
He is a, he's one of the coaches

1830
01:42:48,700 --> 01:42:51,600
that's that's close to the
program, he got some air time

1831
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:55,000
the other day on the on the
promo film of the coaches.

1832
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,700
So Robbie it was good to see you
on that, but he does give us a

1833
01:42:57,700 --> 01:43:01,900
lot of insight on what he sees
at practices and players that he

1834
01:43:01,900 --> 01:43:04,600
see in the that he sees in the
area.

1835
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:08,100
So he's not just somebody that's
on here bullshit and he knows

1836
01:43:08,100 --> 01:43:11,400
his stuff and he's seen a lot of
football, but he got two players

1837
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:14,100
with rings.
Yeah, yes, that is rings.

1838
01:43:14,500 --> 01:43:16,900
But if you look at Robert, Robin
looks like a football coach.

1839
01:43:16,900 --> 01:43:20,800
I don't know.
And dark alley by himself.

1840
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:24,300
But Switching gears a little
bit, David talking about one of

1841
01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:27,500
our, you know, hopeful Stars
Dorian strong.

1842
01:43:27,500 --> 01:43:30,800
He was kept out a lot last year
due to an injury.

1843
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,700
How has he looked coming back
from that injury?

1844
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:38,600
He's looked like himself.
He's look like he's a more

1845
01:43:38,600 --> 01:43:41,300
energized version, man.
He until the Dorian.

1846
01:43:41,300 --> 01:43:44,000
Dorian is one of my favorite
players to cover on this team

1847
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:45,500
simply because he's always got a
smile.

1848
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,400
I'll on his face.
He's always joking around.

1849
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:51,700
Maybe a little bit too much, but
he's a very energetic guy,

1850
01:43:51,700 --> 01:43:54,700
awesome guy.
And we talked to him a couple

1851
01:43:54,700 --> 01:43:59,800
weeks ago, and he kind of told
us that It was tougher to my

1852
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:06,000
time the end of lean on on some
of his family, just mentally.

1853
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,700
It was tough, right?
He's season.

1854
01:44:08,700 --> 01:44:11,200
He essentially knew his season
was over, but he didn't think

1855
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:14,200
that first, right?
He thought he was going to be

1856
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:17,000
able to come back and play and
the doctors told him, he had to

1857
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:20,000
have surgery and he was like, he
went from kind of kind of being

1858
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,000
like, okay, I can't wait to get
back to man.

1859
01:44:22,000 --> 01:44:24,700
I'm not gonna be able to get
back and he spent a lot of time

1860
01:44:24,700 --> 01:44:28,400
watching film on himself of what
he could do better and he He

1861
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,400
looks like a I don't want to
say, he looks like himself but

1862
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:36,100
but he, he looks brand-new.
I mean, he is energized.

1863
01:44:36,100 --> 01:44:39,600
He's ready to go and he's look
really good.

1864
01:44:39,700 --> 01:44:43,800
I will say still kind of trying,
I think get back to 100%.

1865
01:44:43,900 --> 01:44:47,300
Like I think he's, I think he's,
I think he's looking pretty well

1866
01:44:48,300 --> 01:44:52,300
so far, but I think he's, I
wouldn't say 100%.

1867
01:44:52,300 --> 01:44:56,000
He's done some one-on-one stuff
alone off to the side a couple,

1868
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,000
you know, one or two practices
that I've seen.

1869
01:44:58,700 --> 01:45:04,400
But I think he's come a long way
and months or delaying a him and

1870
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,900
during strong, the other man and
Derek canteen, somebody that the

1871
01:45:07,900 --> 01:45:10,300
coaching staff has raved about
this year.

1872
01:45:10,700 --> 01:45:14,800
That is a really good starting,
DV room and I'm really excited

1873
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,000
to see what Dorian does think.
He's got a little bit of a chip

1874
01:45:17,000 --> 01:45:20,600
on his shoulder, right?
Yeah, you know, he had a you

1875
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:24,300
gotta have a chip 144 man.
Can we kill?

1876
01:45:24,300 --> 01:45:27,700
We get him into a single digit.
I'll take it.

1877
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:29,500
Number.
I'll take 20 1944.

1878
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:53,900
Keep going.
And you mentioned David.

1879
01:45:58,900 --> 01:46:00,800
Across the board.
And guys, you feel comfortable,

1880
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:04,100
probably put in multiple
situation but who's becoming 4

1881
01:46:04,100 --> 01:46:06,700
and 5, because football is a
game of attrition rotation.

1882
01:46:07,100 --> 01:46:09,000
I mean, I look at the roster
here.

1883
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:10,700
You see Devin Alvarez, the big
body.

1884
01:46:10,700 --> 01:46:15,900
Got a Florida cam Johnson, got
some run last year, who do you

1885
01:46:16,100 --> 01:46:18,000
like?
Who do you see going in there?

1886
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,000
Because obviously during
practice, they're rotating them,

1887
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:23,200
who are you seeing more of you
know, with the Cheetahs out

1888
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:28,400
there?
The the the twos and threes the

1889
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:33,700
other day it's a it's cam
Johnson.

1890
01:46:34,900 --> 01:46:37,700
Antonio Cotman jr.
Who's reported early enrollee?

1891
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:44,200
He, I don't believe he was in
practice the other day but he

1892
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,900
was a couple weeks ago when I
saw him he was rapping with the

1893
01:46:46,900 --> 01:46:51,600
twos so and Elijah Howard.
I think those are some of the

1894
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:54,000
guys that are coming along in
that room.

1895
01:46:54,100 --> 01:46:58,100
Room again, I'm curious again.
Here's what you got to remember

1896
01:46:58,100 --> 01:47:00,300
right there are all even
cheetahs.

1897
01:47:00,300 --> 01:47:02,000
There are a whole lot of
cheetahs coming in over the

1898
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:06,500
summer right around Johnson
earlier there are a ton of

1899
01:47:06,500 --> 01:47:09,100
freshmen coming.
I think I think that room is

1900
01:47:09,100 --> 01:47:10,800
only going to get more
competitive.

1901
01:47:11,500 --> 01:47:17,400
As is your goes on.
I agree I agree again going back

1902
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:20,700
to what we're talking about
earlier when we talked about

1903
01:47:20,700 --> 01:47:25,800
just recruiting and going out
and getting people.

1904
01:47:26,300 --> 01:47:28,900
This this staff has brought in
some people that are when you

1905
01:47:28,900 --> 01:47:34,700
talk about a freshmen enrolling
early and getting any kind of

1906
01:47:34,700 --> 01:47:39,900
run with one's tools, threes, it
is tough to come from high

1907
01:47:39,900 --> 01:47:44,300
school to college because
anybody who's played If you want

1908
01:47:44,300 --> 01:47:47,500
from P weed, a middle school to
Middle School to high school,

1909
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:50,200
you always run into a speed
difference.

1910
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:54,100
The speed of the game is so fast
when you go to different levels.

1911
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:57,100
And when you pull in somebody,
like a cotton that, you know, a

1912
01:47:57,108 --> 01:48:00,100
lot of people said, oh well,
he's in, he's not this or he's

1913
01:48:00,100 --> 01:48:03,900
that if you look at him, he
looks like he can go play his

1914
01:48:03,900 --> 01:48:08,200
body, his body, looks like he
can go play on the college field

1915
01:48:08,300 --> 01:48:12,700
and what what Cunningham is
telling us, I mean, he's picking

1916
01:48:12,700 --> 01:48:14,300
up the speed of the game.
I'm pretty good.

1917
01:48:14,300 --> 01:48:17,400
So again, we know it's Spring
ball but it's definitely good to

1918
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:19,600
hear.
When we have young guys that are

1919
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:23,100
able to step in and make a
difference because we need it,

1920
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,200
you know, we definitely need
that.

1921
01:48:26,100 --> 01:48:29,700
Yeah, it definitely seeing that
room kind of level up from guys

1922
01:48:29,700 --> 01:48:34,500
that were experienced, but maybe
not quite as talented as you

1923
01:48:34,500 --> 01:48:36,600
like to see.
And now you're seeing the level

1924
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,800
of play, get ratcheted up a
little bit so that's nice to see

1925
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:42,300
you as well.
Let's talk about the safety's a

1926
01:48:42,308 --> 01:48:44,200
little bit.
We got a lot of Auntie at the

1927
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:48,100
starting spot with the Seer
peoples and Jalen strowman not a

1928
01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:51,700
ton of proven depth behind them
though will the two deep

1929
01:48:51,700 --> 01:48:56,700
consists of some heretofore run,
you underutilized veterans, or

1930
01:48:56,700 --> 01:48:59,400
will there be a youth movement
in that rotation?

1931
01:49:01,300 --> 01:49:06,100
We're talking about safeties.
Yeah, behind behind the people

1932
01:49:07,500 --> 01:49:10,600
and Jones and most Phillips.
I think they're picking up stuff

1933
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:12,000
really quickly.
Okay.

1934
01:49:13,500 --> 01:49:20,900
Most Phillips, first of all,
it's heat-seeking missile, who

1935
01:49:20,900 --> 01:49:21,700
was it?
Who was it?

1936
01:49:21,700 --> 01:49:24,500
That we chatted with the other
day, that that admitted that to

1937
01:49:24,500 --> 01:49:27,300
us?
There was one of the safeties we

1938
01:49:27,300 --> 01:49:29,000
chatted with and I wrote it
down.

1939
01:49:29,300 --> 01:49:31,600
I asked And I was like, is he
like a heat-seeking missile out

1940
01:49:31,600 --> 01:49:32,700
there?
Who's like, oh yeah.

1941
01:49:34,500 --> 01:49:36,600
Let me talk to Pearson Prelude.
The other day too.

1942
01:49:37,900 --> 01:49:41,300
Oh, it's a genuine strowman and
strowman was like, yeah.

1943
01:49:41,300 --> 01:49:42,600
Yeah.
Most of those like heat-seeking

1944
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:44,300
missile.
I didn't he and Jalen Jones and

1945
01:49:44,300 --> 01:49:45,600
picked up on stuff really,
really well.

1946
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:51,400
Two guys who are kind of both
knew to that position in terms

1947
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:54,400
of one transfer from moved over
from wide receiver.

1948
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:57,100
The other is in his first
semester but I think those are

1949
01:49:57,100 --> 01:49:58,500
two guys that have a lot of
potential.

1950
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:03,800
And like you mentioned tally,
they are attuned to the speed of

1951
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,000
the game, right?
Big picked up an adjusted to the

1952
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,100
speed of the game.
It's not really that slow for

1953
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:09,600
her.
It's not really that fast form,

1954
01:50:09,600 --> 01:50:11,500
right?
They can keep up and they

1955
01:50:11,500 --> 01:50:16,500
understand I'm curious to see
how those guys kind of Get

1956
01:50:16,500 --> 01:50:21,000
better and improve and become
even more of a reliable.

1957
01:50:21,100 --> 01:50:27,400
You know, guys that can rely on,
when we get closer to 2 August

1958
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:30,500
because I think they both got
really good potential.

1959
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,800
I think most Phillips.
You know, the fact that most

1960
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,700
Phillips is already on campus
and he's essentially rapping

1961
01:50:35,700 --> 01:50:37,800
with the tunes.
That's amazing.

1962
01:50:37,900 --> 01:50:42,600
Let's go.
He and those DBS that those guys

1963
01:50:42,600 --> 01:50:45,100
are recruiting.
They're they're smart, they're

1964
01:50:45,100 --> 01:50:48,200
talented.
Did they handle themselves very,

1965
01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:51,700
very well.
So I think Jones and Philips are

1966
01:50:51,700 --> 01:50:55,500
two guys that it would not Shock
Me for them to be in the 2D

1967
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:58,700
coming fall.
And when you yeah, when you talk

1968
01:50:58,700 --> 01:51:02,300
about, you know, these young
players and somebody like a most

1969
01:51:02,300 --> 01:51:05,100
Phillips and you say, he's a
heat-seeking missile for guys

1970
01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:07,700
who don't know a lot about
football, or don't, you know,

1971
01:51:07,700 --> 01:51:13,200
just talk to just tune into
Saturday's games, you got to

1972
01:51:13,208 --> 01:51:18,600
build dealt, you know, you got
to have That I have special

1973
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:22,600
teams players, so who doesn't
want to seeks to heat-seeking,

1974
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:27,300
heat-seeking missile, going down
on kickoff, team and going and

1975
01:51:27,500 --> 01:51:31,400
tracking the ball.
So this maybe sometimes you

1976
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:35,000
don't see these guys get a lot
of playing time in the one or

1977
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:39,000
two deep, but if they're able to
contribute in that special teams

1978
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,800
room and keep some of the ones
off the field.

1979
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:43,800
So we're not getting hurt on
special teams.

1980
01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:46,900
That's a big deal.
So, That's, that's definitely

1981
01:51:46,900 --> 01:51:50,400
good to hear.
Yeah, that on Jones to, you

1982
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,600
know, we look when I, when I
looked at him steadily, you said

1983
01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:55,900
I was and they say it, what
you've always talked about Jalen

1984
01:51:55,900 --> 01:52:01,700
Jones and the way he plays man
Jones reminds me of a lot of not

1985
01:52:01,700 --> 01:52:06,500
necessarily ability wise but the
way he ran with the ball playing

1986
01:52:06,500 --> 01:52:11,100
wide receiver Anquan Boldin, he
ran physical, he ran hard and I

1987
01:52:11,100 --> 01:52:13,600
feel like that's going to
translate to special teams like

1988
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:17,000
tally was just talking about and
obviously Backing up.

1989
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:19,400
You know, one of those safeties
on the other side, where you can

1990
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:22,500
use that physicality in that
size to his Advantage.

1991
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:27,700
I think the coaches should have
a video segment of divine Diablo

1992
01:52:27,700 --> 01:52:29,300
and show Jalen Jones, they were
chance.

1993
01:52:29,300 --> 01:52:31,700
They get.
I said that the same exact

1994
01:52:31,700 --> 01:52:34,400
player but maybe kind of the
same path.

1995
01:52:34,900 --> 01:52:39,400
Hey, he's in the league so you
can say whatever you want about

1996
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:40,700
him.
I don't think nobody don't say

1997
01:52:40,700 --> 01:52:43,800
anything bad but that's who I'd
be showing that's why I be

1998
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:49,300
showing Jalen Jones videos up.
Yeah, 100% And it's good to hear

1999
01:52:49,300 --> 01:52:51,100
that they're out there.
And they're pushing our agents,

2000
01:52:51,100 --> 01:52:53,400
the speed of the game.
You know for Jaylyn that makes

2001
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,200
sense right Jalen's plate,
Jason's been in jail has been

2002
01:52:56,200 --> 01:52:59,400
involved on the field for so
long but to hear someone like

2003
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:04,200
most Phillips come in
immediately and start you know

2004
01:53:04,700 --> 01:53:07,700
picking up and is likely going
to be that to deep guy.

2005
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:09,700
It goes to what Thomas is saying
here.

2006
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:13,400
You're starting to build rooms
where they're so deep where

2007
01:53:13,700 --> 01:53:17,600
it's, you know, Phillips, You've
got strowman, he's a young guy.

2008
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:19,700
Phillips.
And Jones are younger, guys,

2009
01:53:19,700 --> 01:53:22,500
where it's going to take awhile.
But when you have a while, when

2010
01:53:22,500 --> 01:53:25,400
it takes a while, you're
developing them, they're ready

2011
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:28,200
to go physically and speed wise
when they get there.

2012
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,400
Now, you mentioned coaches and
we do have some things to ask

2013
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:36,400
you about the coaches.
You've had a chance to see Tyler

2014
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:38,200
bonus to hold in their new
roles.

2015
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:41,000
I mean, it's to hold, it's not
really a new role.

2016
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:44,400
He's coached itins, half his
career but Tyler bone.

2017
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:48,000
It's really the first time in
that Quarterback room and I know

2018
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:50,800
you're set a distance, but how
are they looking for so far?

2019
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,100
Let's start with Tyler, because
to me, that's 21.

2020
01:53:53,900 --> 01:53:58,000
Everybody wants to know about
and then they're both fine.

2021
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:02,800
I think, I think Bowen being
closer to the quarterback has

2022
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:05,200
been a benefit, right?
He's Hands-On with the

2023
01:54:05,208 --> 01:54:08,500
quarterbacks all the time and of
course that's the battle.

2024
01:54:08,500 --> 01:54:11,500
Everybody wants to know more
about drones and Wells, right?

2025
01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:14,300
He's more Hands-On with those
guys than anybody.

2026
01:54:16,100 --> 01:54:18,600
From everything I can tell.
It's playing out really well.

2027
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:21,500
So far.
And you mentioned Holt.

2028
01:54:21,500 --> 01:54:23,500
I think hold this hole has been
fine.

2029
01:54:23,500 --> 01:54:27,200
I think the tight end room is
kind of a lot more known than

2030
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:30,400
unknown, right?
I'm sure that transition wasn't

2031
01:54:30,400 --> 01:54:34,600
too complicated for them and it
seems like everything in that

2032
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:36,900
room is going well so far.
But, but I think Bowen is the

2033
01:54:36,900 --> 01:54:39,800
one that everybody's curious
about from everything.

2034
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,500
I can tell, he's transition
really real well, and everybody

2035
01:54:42,500 --> 01:54:44,500
in the room is taken to that
transition.

2036
01:54:44,500 --> 01:54:46,900
Well, which is very important.
Don't ya.

2037
01:54:46,900 --> 01:54:49,600
If you've got the buy-in from
the players, I think that's the

2038
01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:52,000
most important thing because if
you don't have that, then you're

2039
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:55,000
kind of fighting a losing battle
and it's hard to get back above

2040
01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,700
water.
Let's, let's start with this,

2041
01:54:57,700 --> 01:54:59,100
this little more, little more
fun.

2042
01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:03,400
Question, kind of give you a
chance to pull something out of

2043
01:55:03,407 --> 01:55:05,500
left field here.
Is there any coach who stands

2044
01:55:05,500 --> 01:55:09,100
out to you for kind of how they
operate during practice or

2045
01:55:09,100 --> 01:55:13,700
anything like that?
Derrick Jones is awesome, man.

2046
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:17,500
He's he's caught.
I mean, he's constantly

2047
01:55:17,500 --> 01:55:20,600
challenging these guys.
I think it's tough to get some

2048
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:25,200
of the coaches work in certain
areas where it's like certain

2049
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,700
areas of the field where it's
hard to kind of hear everything

2050
01:55:27,700 --> 01:55:32,300
you're saying or but but I enjoy
listening to Sean Quinn but I

2051
01:55:32,300 --> 01:55:34,100
also enjoy listening to Derrick
Jones.

2052
01:55:34,400 --> 01:55:37,500
Derrick Jones is constantly
challenging his guys constantly

2053
01:55:37,500 --> 01:55:40,200
challenging these guys to get
better and be better.

2054
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:43,500
That's what, that's what you
expect from a coach.

2055
01:55:44,300 --> 01:55:45,800
I'll say this.
I think all the coaches are

2056
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:47,300
great people, and they're great,
guys.

2057
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:54,700
And he's done a really good job.
Brent, prize done, a really good

2058
01:55:54,700 --> 01:55:56,400
job.
I should say of hiring good

2059
01:55:56,400 --> 01:56:01,100
people and guys who who have
good Personalities in her

2060
01:56:01,100 --> 01:56:03,300
fitting in.
Well, I'm curious to see how the

2061
01:56:03,300 --> 01:56:06,100
product of a football field
turns out, but I think when you

2062
01:56:06,100 --> 01:56:09,000
wander around and practice your
listening to all these guys are

2063
01:56:09,000 --> 01:56:12,200
fired up there, ready to go?
There Jones is.

2064
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:20,600
You could say, in a way, talking
some talking, some shit to

2065
01:56:20,600 --> 01:56:23,200
exalted wires, right?
He's challenging him, right?

2066
01:56:23,200 --> 01:56:26,700
He's saying, hey man don't be,
don't be dumb, you know?

2067
01:56:27,500 --> 01:56:29,900
Like get your act together,
right?

2068
01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:33,100
And that's how you continue to
one build their character but

2069
01:56:33,100 --> 01:56:39,800
continue to help them grow as
both players and an actual, you

2070
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:45,200
know, humans and, you know, so
I've Watching Derrick Jones.

2071
01:56:45,200 --> 01:56:47,300
I think he's, I think he's won
pretty funny.

2072
01:56:47,300 --> 01:56:51,000
And to, he's, he's real right.
He's real with his guys.

2073
01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:52,600
I think a lot of the other
coaches are two.

2074
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,100
I think fontelle Minds is, is a
great guy.

2075
01:56:56,800 --> 01:57:00,600
Yeah, of course, I missed a week
or two cover women's basketball,

2076
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,000
so I didn't get to be around
practice, as much as I would

2077
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:06,700
like.
But but I do think for the most

2078
01:57:06,700 --> 01:57:09,700
part though, I've enjoyed being
around all the staff because

2079
01:57:09,700 --> 01:57:13,400
they're nice people and and they
really challenge your guys to be

2080
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:14,700
the best.
Himself.

2081
01:57:15,900 --> 01:57:17,600
Yep.
And then I guess you know

2082
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:19,700
talking kind of since you
brought up just different

2083
01:57:19,700 --> 01:57:23,400
Personnel groups and different
cultures and different cultures

2084
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:25,900
in their groups.
Talking Personnel.

2085
01:57:27,200 --> 01:57:29,400
What groups do you think?
Are the most fluid from like

2086
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:33,400
practice to practice in terms of
either like starting Personnel

2087
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:38,600
or just personal groupings?
Hang its wide receiver.

2088
01:57:38,700 --> 01:57:41,500
I mean I told you guys earlier
fun time mind yes it's an

2089
01:57:41,500 --> 01:57:46,400
action.
Imagine right.

2090
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,700
I think I think God's now and
all the way it but kind of

2091
01:57:48,700 --> 01:57:50,900
taking responsibility of they're
the guys who are reading the

2092
01:57:50,900 --> 01:57:55,300
group but but I think it's kind
of mixing and matching with some

2093
01:57:55,300 --> 01:57:56,500
of the young guys.
I'm curious.

2094
01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:59,900
I'm very curious in this spring
game when we see some of those

2095
01:57:59,900 --> 01:58:03,400
young guys in in that though
that uniform for the first time.

2096
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:06,100
How they look right there, can I
get set?

2097
01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:07,800
Can they get?
Separation are playing against

2098
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:10,000
some pretty good DVDs for the
most part on the other side.

2099
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:13,900
But I think wide receiver is one
of those rooms where there are

2100
01:58:13,900 --> 01:58:16,400
so many scholarship, guys.
Right.

2101
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:21,100
Trying to to balance all the
wraps and figure out what guys

2102
01:58:23,400 --> 01:58:26,000
well guys are where each day.
I think that's probably the

2103
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:29,000
group that's most fluid
understand.

2104
01:58:29,500 --> 01:58:31,900
Yeah so you know some people
probably going to lose their

2105
01:58:31,900 --> 01:58:35,400
minds one way or the other.
You know during the spring game

2106
01:58:36,500 --> 01:58:39,000
I really did.
It's going to be all right.

2107
01:58:39,900 --> 01:58:43,200
I'm gonna be Davis.
Bodyguard I'm gonna be hanging

2108
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:46,300
out with him.
So y'all just let me Y'all got

2109
01:58:46,300 --> 01:58:50,900
any questions?
I'll come through me and then I

2110
01:58:50,900 --> 01:58:54,500
love this but before before I
ask my next question, I do need

2111
01:58:54,500 --> 01:59:00,200
to make a quick thing here for
tally and just just so y'all

2112
01:59:00,200 --> 01:59:13,200
know where that game certainly I
needed to be I knew it David II

2113
01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:16,700
podcast with to Lakers fans here
the chaps Um, our text

2114
01:59:16,700 --> 01:59:20,400
sometimes, it's his Lakers talk.
I'm just look down like lunch,

2115
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:28,700
who have you seen merge into the
leadership role that maybe you

2116
01:59:28,700 --> 01:59:30,700
weren't expecting this
offseason?

2117
01:59:32,300 --> 01:59:34,500
I think the big one is Derek
canteen.

2118
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:38,300
I think he's coming immediately
and taking a leadership role.

2119
01:59:38,600 --> 01:59:41,200
He's a guy who was a freshman
All-American, pretty much.

2120
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:42,900
It meant Georgia Southern,
right?

2121
01:59:42,900 --> 01:59:45,200
And then dealt with some
injuries and he has a map and

2122
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:46,600
down.
He's coming.

2123
01:59:46,600 --> 01:59:50,500
First of all, he's a phenomenal.
He's phenomenally well spoken,

2124
01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:54,300
he's a great guy to be around.
We had a chance to speak with

2125
01:59:54,300 --> 01:59:59,000
them and he, and he was awesome.
He's a guy who the other guys

2126
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:02,300
really looked up to.
And for guys, like Dorian strong

2127
02:00:02,300 --> 02:00:05,500
and Monsour d'Alene, they've
challenged feeling his presence

2128
02:00:05,500 --> 02:00:07,200
has challenged them to be
better.

2129
02:00:07,900 --> 02:00:10,800
I think he's made that whole
room a whole lot better.

2130
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:15,400
I think he's the Big Horn, he's
come in and, and he's basically

2131
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:18,600
Yeah, he's a transfer gate.
He's a new environment, but he's

2132
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:20,800
taking up a leadership role.
And he's challenging everybody

2133
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:23,400
to be better versions of himself
and that's important.

2134
02:00:23,400 --> 02:00:26,800
That's what you need in this
program for to get to that next

2135
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:29,300
level.
Yeah I think what, you know we

2136
02:00:29,300 --> 02:00:32,300
had a whole episode where we
talked about you know, who were

2137
02:00:32,300 --> 02:00:36,300
the new leaders going to be.
So it's nice to kind of get a

2138
02:00:36,300 --> 02:00:39,400
leadership role from maybe that
guy that you're not expecting.

2139
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:42,600
And I think canteen falls into
that category because I don't

2140
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:45,900
think any of us necessarily, you
know, drew a circle around

2141
02:00:45,900 --> 02:00:49,000
Cantina said he's going to be a
guy that's going to really kind

2142
02:00:49,000 --> 02:00:51,400
of Drive the DB room or anything
like that.

2143
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:54,300
So having a guy like that step
up that just makes everybody

2144
02:00:54,300 --> 02:00:56,600
else below him stronger.
So that's important.

2145
02:00:57,100 --> 02:01:00,300
Let's talk about this.
Though because you know, we're

2146
02:01:00,300 --> 02:01:02,500
looking at Spring practice,
we're looking at depth.

2147
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:05,500
You specifically have talked
about the wide receiver room.

2148
02:01:06,100 --> 02:01:07,900
We're kind of write it.
What, about eight scholarships

2149
02:01:07,900 --> 02:01:11,900
over the limit right now, what
position groups do you think

2150
02:01:11,900 --> 02:01:16,000
will have the most portal
attrition posts praying in?

2151
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:19,500
Are there any groups where we
can afford to add another player

2152
02:01:19,500 --> 02:01:24,900
or two if things open up?
I think you can always add, add

2153
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:28,300
offensive, lineman or defensive
lineman, I think that you can

2154
02:01:28,300 --> 02:01:30,100
never go wrong with adding more
guys.

2155
02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:33,900
I think the linebacker room is
fine.

2156
02:01:33,900 --> 02:01:36,400
I think the DB room is fine for
the most part though.

2157
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:40,300
It wouldn't surprise me.
If they met was one guy who left

2158
02:01:40,300 --> 02:01:42,500
that room is Captain.
They like keeping that room

2159
02:01:42,500 --> 02:01:44,700
tight but I think that's a good
number.

2160
02:01:44,700 --> 02:01:47,100
I think most of the churches on
the offensive side of the ball.

2161
02:01:48,700 --> 02:01:53,000
Six quarterbacks is too many
it's just it just Just plain too

2162
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:58,300
many and wide receiver.
You do not need 14, scholarship

2163
02:01:58,300 --> 02:02:01,000
wide receivers I'm sorry.
That's just the way it goes.

2164
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:04,900
So so you know everywhere else I
think is all right.

2165
02:02:06,300 --> 02:02:08,700
I think you would you would love
to add some offensive linemen

2166
02:02:08,700 --> 02:02:10,000
and defensive linemen if you
can.

2167
02:02:10,000 --> 02:02:14,100
But I think quarterback and wide
receiver, really the to where

2168
02:02:14,100 --> 02:02:17,700
I'm like, there are too many
people in this room are 20 guys

2169
02:02:17,700 --> 02:02:19,300
between quarterback and wide
receiver.

2170
02:02:19,500 --> 02:02:21,800
And there are what?
Maybe three four guys on the

2171
02:02:21,800 --> 02:02:23,900
field.
One time between those two

2172
02:02:23,900 --> 02:02:28,500
positions you don't need 20 guys
between those two positions.

2173
02:02:28,500 --> 02:02:32,400
So I think that's where all the
tradition is really going to

2174
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:35,000
come from.
I'm breathing.

2175
02:02:35,400 --> 02:02:37,600
Yep.
And it'll be interesting to see

2176
02:02:37,600 --> 02:02:41,700
who goes and who stays as we get
in the fall and I think you

2177
02:02:41,700 --> 02:02:44,100
know, having you gave it on with
us tonight.

2178
02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:46,900
You know with all the points
you've been making even though

2179
02:02:46,900 --> 02:02:51,000
you've been on the road for you
know for close to almost two

2180
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:53,400
weeks and still having your
Insight man.

2181
02:02:53,900 --> 02:02:55,800
You know, we really appreciate
it.

2182
02:02:55,800 --> 02:02:57,300
We appreciate you joining us
again.

2183
02:02:57,300 --> 02:03:00,000
You know we're going to probably
have you back as we get closer

2184
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:05,400
to the first game of the season.
So mark your Derp even though we

2185
02:03:05,400 --> 02:03:08,500
know you're going to be in
Blacksburg really right there at

2186
02:03:08,500 --> 02:03:14,600
it but you know, tally, Brian.
Anything else y'all want to add

2187
02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:18,700
anything breaking over the last
two hours?

2188
02:03:18,700 --> 02:03:21,300
My Lakers Spirit.
Other than that, I think.

2189
02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:25,500
All right, boys, I guess the
main thing for Cunningham.

2190
02:03:25,500 --> 02:03:28,100
What you got anything planned
for the spring game?

2191
02:03:28,100 --> 02:03:30,700
Any fun festivities or
tailgates?

2192
02:03:30,700 --> 02:03:36,500
I need to attend.
Working man, I am not tailgating

2193
02:03:36,500 --> 02:03:42,000
who you think I am, man.
Is actually my sister's birthday

2194
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:45,200
that weekend.
She's a junior, at Tech someone

2195
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:47,400
who spend some time with her
life to him.

2196
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I got some family coming in
town.

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I guess that's what happens when
your brother and sister go to

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school here.
But so I'm going to, I'm gonna

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spend some time with some family
and I'll be, I'll be working a

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lot, but now I'm excited.
I think it'll be a good weekend

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especially since I've been gone
all All over the place, it'll be

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nice to have a lot of people.
I don't know if it'd be nice to

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have a lot of people in Black
formidable, it'll be cool to

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see.
A lot of people, I'm sure I'll

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cross paths with you guys.
Assuming you guys are there and

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a whole lot of other people.
But yeah, I think I think this

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is a it's a big weekend, right?
Big sport, big other sporting

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02:04:25,400 --> 02:04:30,800
events at home You've got
obviously a 3.2 432.

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I'm curious to see how the
spring game plays out.

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I don't know how much we're
actually going to be able to

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take away from it.
But but I do think this is an

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opportunity for a lot of these
guys to to Showcase a little

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bit.
What they have.

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I mean, we came away with from
this bringing last year and

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said, man.
Kayla Smith is good.

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Well, that was the only while
your Subaru could do anything

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02:04:51,300 --> 02:04:53,800
last year.
What we came away from the off

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from last year saying, man, this
offensive line is a mess.

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02:04:56,900 --> 02:04:58,700
Now, to be fair, they did split.
Up.

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But but how does that stuff
look?

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Right.
We're Will Come Away with

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02:05:04,300 --> 02:05:07,400
probably a couple big takeaways
and those will be our talking

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02:05:07,400 --> 02:05:10,800
points going forward.
So hope you guys get a chance to

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02:05:10,800 --> 02:05:13,500
come in town and do it.
I'm sure you guys are and can't

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02:05:13,500 --> 02:05:15,900
wait to see you all.
I'm sure we'll all across past

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02:05:15,900 --> 02:05:20,100
sometime soon.
Absolutely Again, David

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02:05:20,100 --> 02:05:23,700
Cunningham from Tech sideline.
If y'all do not know text cylons

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are on a great special right
now, 120 for the entire year.

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Year of all of their in-depth
coverage, David.

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You always write great been, you
always do what's right by coming

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02:05:34,700 --> 02:05:37,500
on here.
So, thank you for coming.

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02:05:37,600 --> 02:05:40,800
That does wrap up this episode
of The Boundary Corner podcast

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02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:44,100
brought to you by Main Street.
Pharmacy, in Blacksburg Wilson

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with our guest, David Cunningham
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I'm Brian Sigler, Jonathan
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02:05:52,800 --> 02:05:54,500
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Brian.

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02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:05,700
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I'm sorry, I'm late.

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02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:08,900
You got to turn around, man.
You gotta turn your back so

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02:06:08,900 --> 02:06:10,800
where you can get.
There you go.

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Anything?
Yeah, for all of the Virginia

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02:06:14,700 --> 02:06:17,600
Tech fans, if you don't know
what that means, you need to

2246
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:19,900
come over here.
One night with me tally.

2247
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:22,600
Dave will join you and we will
educate on you what we swarm

2248
02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:26,000
baby means because if you don't
know, you have not been a fan

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02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:29,700
long enough and we will educate
You all right.

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02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:38,800
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02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:43,400
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As always, we let our buddy.

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02:06:45,300 --> 02:06:47,800
Jason long players in place out
and Brian.

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02:06:47,800 --> 02:06:50,200
He's got dates.
He's got dates.

2258
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:51,400
He's out of.
He's out.

2259
02:06:51,600 --> 02:06:54,800
He's out of hibernation, he's
out, he's out of the dungeon

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02:06:54,900 --> 02:06:58,100
recording.
The new hits, the new hit.

2261
02:06:58,200 --> 02:07:01,700
Yes, it will be going to be at
the Grand and Village Farmers

2262
02:07:01,700 --> 02:07:04,200
Market down in Roanoke,
actually, on the spring game,

2263
02:07:04,200 --> 02:07:05,500
going to be there from 8:00 to
noon.

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02:07:05,500 --> 02:07:10,000
And then in June, Harmony for
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Research Foundation at mangoes,
Bar and Grill.

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02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:17,200
So, check em out of Jason long
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eight minutes and 30 seconds.

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02:07:25,300 --> 02:07:28,900
We thank you all for listening
and as always, let's go.

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Okay.