The Hokies Spring Game was a cold and poorly attended exhibition. Now that we've had some time to digest what we saw live and in a tape delayed fashion let's talk about it. We break down what we learned on the scheme and position battle front and what sort of help this roster still needs before fall camp. We also touch on the Nico Iamaleava situation and talk about a plethora of Hokies that are looking to hear their name called at the NFL Draft.

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Now Miami wants to talk about
it.

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Several of these past plays in
this last possession, the first

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one took 11 seconds off the
clock, 11 seconds.

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It resulted in incompletion.
They have not managed the clock

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very well.
But you you can say that to

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Jacory Harris, but if he can't
find anybody open, he can't.

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Find anybody open.
Let me tell you what has become

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open this crowd that makes the
task of Al Golden and Jacory

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Harris that much more difficult.
You lose a little bit of your

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composure and your focus and
understanding of the down in the

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distance in the game at this
point.

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Now they've got they cannot let
the ball die inbound.

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Look at this.
This is just spectacular.

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These people are losing their
mind.

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This is beautiful.
Virginia Tech has one defender

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waiting back at the 15 yard
line.

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Harris frozen underneath, caught
by Miller trying to stay alive.

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The clock is in zero and Miller
is down.

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It's over.
Alonso.

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Tweety made the tackle in
Virginia Tech wins.

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I'll tell you what, if you like
college football and you got to

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watch this whole game, what else
could you conceivably ask for?

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It's one of the greatest games I
ever saw.

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Frank Beamer has joined us.
Frank, just your typical

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Saturday afternoon at Lane
State.

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner podcast, a part of the

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College Couple network along
with my partners, Brian Siegler,

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Jonathan Talley and Shelton
Moss.

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I am Curtis Wilson and we are
brought to you by Doctor Jeremy

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Counts down at the Counts Family
Pharmacy, your friendly

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neighborhood pharmacy, three O 1
S Main St. in Blacksburg.

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And y'all, we kicked it off
right there with one of the most

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unbelievable calls in college
football, in my opinion, in the

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last 20 years in honor of Mike
Patrick, who passed away

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yesterday because hey, Mike
Patrick called so many Tech

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games throughout the years,
first of all.

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But when that game happened and
literally for some reason Al

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Golden decided to call a
timeout, Mike delivered maybe

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one of the best lines ever.
And I don't know what to say.

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I'll definitely miss him because
to me, he was a voice of college

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football, voice of the Hokies,
voice of the College World

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Series for years.
And you know, take takes me back

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to a happier time as far as
being a Hokie fan was.

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Let's let's, let's run it back
even further for some of our old

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heads.
Him and Joe Thais are back on

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Sunday Night Football.
Yeah, I mean that that was my

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introduction to Mike Patrick.
And then obviously you're

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calling all those games for the
Hokies, especially when we were

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winning some football games
that'll have had a much better

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clip than we are now.
So rest in peace of that man.

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Definitely a legend in the
booth.

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Definitely a legend man.
Like I say, RRP definitely don't

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want to over shadow what we're
talking about because that's

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very serious.
But when I watch that clip, you

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know what I'm saying?
And I see him like that's that's

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college football, that's
Virginia Tech football, you

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know, like that's just electric.
That's what you see.

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That's not what our dumb ass
fans talk about when we talk

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about that fucking song.
It's not the song, man.

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It's the the noise, it's the
people, it's the atmosphere,

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it's everything that Hokey
Nation makes it.

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Nothing wrong with the song.
The song's good.

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I don't hate the song, but that
electric atmosphere is what

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Hokey Nation is.
And that's what people like

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myself have grown to love, man.
And then like I said, even with

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him, you know, commentating that
game, just I, I remember

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watching it, I wasn't there.
I remember watching it on TV.

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Like it's just, that's what
college football is, man.

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That's what gets you.
That's what gets you going.

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You know, I and I feel like
sometimes put a, a tweet out.

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I guess they're talking about
college football, the video

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game.
I was going to have MSN man in

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it or they're talking about it
being in there for the 26th

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game.
And I'm like, I don't care who's

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blocking on our team this year.
That's what I want to know.

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Shelton, can I ask real quick,
were you at that game back in 11

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Miami?
No, I was not the game.

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So that was before I was really
like a AVT fanatic.

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Were you?
Grown back into.

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Yeah, I was.
I was.

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I was.
I was 13.

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I think so, but I do remember
watching that game and that was

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one of those core even like as a
non fan actor, that was one of

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those core Vt memories.
You're kind of just like

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watching the screen and awe and
like, man, this is awesome.

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Like that's, you know, it's
unfortunate we haven't had, you

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know, memories like that.
We're still kind of, you know,

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reminiscing on stuff that's so
far back, but it's kind of it's

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kind of become more part of like
the the lore as time has gone

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on.
Yeah, definitely any any Miami

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game, man.
Like I told people whenever we

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started talking about who we
would play in the future and

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they was talking about teams
that we took away and things

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like that.
Like I said, my first game in

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Lane Stadium was Virginia Tech
versus Miami on a Thursday

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night.
So like Miami's probably that's

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like that's one of my teams.
If we play in Miami, I want to

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be tuned in to that game.
So goes back to this game blue

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to the TV watching it, you know
what I'm saying?

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They come in weird high ranked
team and.

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I think they were.
Were they favored in that game

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or something?
It was, it was weird, like we

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were getting.
Disrespected.

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Yeah.
Yeah, there was definitely

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something there.
Yeah.

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I think it was like, I know we
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in, in record and rank and it
was like, all right, well.

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I know Harris was getting a lot
of hype and stuff, right?

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Yeah, around that time.
He always got hyped.

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We always shut his ass up too.
Yeah.

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So yeah, man, I just, I love the
Virginia Tech Miami rivalry.

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I'm calling it a rivalry.
If y'all don't like it, it is

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Kick rocks.
It's a rock.

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I love that rivalry, man.
So listening to that starting to

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show with that takes me back to
happier times.

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I'm still mad, but that takes me
to happier times.

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There we go.
All righty so.

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Everybody the The theme for this
episode is Tally is the old man

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yelling at the cloud so.
Get all the lawn get off of.

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It get off get off but along
with tally yelling at the lawn

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Shelton who I'm not Sheldon you
had been in my Sheldon's been

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working his ass off for pretty
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He's back tonight.
I like what Robbie said The

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gang's back together tonight.
We are going to go over spring

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ball real quick.
The spring game, our

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observations from it with Brian
being there and a couple other

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folks and trying to watch a
little pieces of the spring game

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and read on things.
And obviously we thought about

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doing one last week, but last
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Tally was finishing up baseball.
I had multiple games in the

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middle of the week.
Brian had multiple things.

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Shelton's always working in the
middle of the week.

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So the other thing we mentioned
was wait a second y'all, the

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transfer portal opens up so we
can come up here and talk about

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6 players like so and so looked
really good in the portal the

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next day.
So that's another reason we got

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off.
But we are going to hit it up

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tonight.
Talk a little bit about the

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spring game this year.
Finally, finally, finally we got

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the version I wanted, Brian.
We got offense versus defense,

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which I have been screaming
about for years and we got it

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and it was a better game because
you saw ones versus ones even

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though they weren't a lot of
ones on the offensive side of

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the ball.
We'll talk about that in a

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little while.
But Brian, just from being that

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in person because it wasn't a
game, but did you like that or

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was it a little not enough
people there to do it this year?

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Do you remember it, Brad?
I do remember it.

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It's it's a cloudy memory, but
I, I do remember it.

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It, you know what, I like the
format better, but without your

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two best quarterbacks, it kind
of dulled what the high end of

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that would look like.
Because I don't think we saw,

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even with a limited and a
vanilla playbook, as many passes

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or as a consistent passing game
as we would have gotten if you

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would have had drones and pop
Watson out there.

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So I feel like we were kind of
that kind of took away from the

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full impact of that.
And and, you know, just as far

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as the atmosphere in general, I
mean, I, I think, you know, a

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lot of the fan base is feeling a
little bit like tally right now.

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So there there wasn't as many
people out there, at least not

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as many people that were willing
to sit in 40° weather and watch

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the Hokies play an exhibition
game.

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So the the vibes were a little
little down this year, still

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good, but not not quite where
they had been, you know, last

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last two to three years.
But I think, like I said, I

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think the format was good, but I
think without your quarterbacks,

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you kind of lost a little bit of
the luster there.

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Yeah, without a doubt because
obviously, well, first of all,

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we've said it in the past and
some people get pissed off Tally

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in in Shelton, right?
Some people are like, well, so

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and so is not playing.
Why is he not playing?

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And we've screamed on this show
like why do you want to go get

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him hurt during the spring game?
The season ain't till September,

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so when they said that, like you
switch your hands up and it's

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like this sucks.
I'd love to see him play, but we

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get it right.
Yeah, definitely.

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I I don't know man, like so I
guess most chat mostly I'll go

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to the spring game, right.
Put in the chat.

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If you go to the spring game,
most of if you have been like

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most people, you don't go to the
spring game really for the game.

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I mean, it's cool.
You want to see some cool stuff

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happen, but if you haven't been,
I mean you going, you're going

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for the for the vibes.
It's a party, you know what I'm

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saying?
It's pre.

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We we've been we've done the
pregame show.

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You know what I'm saying?
You it's everybody's there.

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It's like homecoming everybody.
You you're meeting everybody.

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You get to eat with a couple of
you guys.

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Did we first meet at the did I
did we finally meet face to face

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at the spring game?
Brian is that spring?

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It was spring game.
See, it's like been knowing

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Brian for it feels like a decade
at least.

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Like I thought he was.
He could have been a Craigslist

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killer.
I don't know.

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He could have been fake.
And I've been talking to this

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guy and zooming him for 10
years.

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But the spring game is what
actually brought us together.

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So the spring game is more than
just the game now.

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This year's game vibes are going
to be a little bit down just

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because of last season, things
like that.

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But like Brian said, I mean, it
was cold out there.

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I was saying it was just a bad
day to have a spring game to get

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everybody in town.
So that's just, I think it's.

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Going to end up being the
coldest day in.

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April it is.
So it's been warm ever since.

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It was warm the week before when
me and Brian were on the cruise

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y'all were getting.
It was hot up here, wasn't it,

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Shelton like the the, the last,
the last few days of March, it

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was like when we pulled back
into Norfolk, it was 88°.

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It was warm so.
She she was cooking.

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But let's go to it.
Let's get to it.

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Defense dominates 3721.
We I was going to talk about

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like each line what what a
quarterback Karen was out, Pop

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didn't play.
The only guy who got a lot of

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reps is now in the portal.
And so the only thing you can

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maybe take from it is Keldon
Ryan and AJ Brandt are big,

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athletic looking dudes.
Oh, there you go.

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Well, Brian will be at that.
I'll be back at it.

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I'll be back at it.
Holy shit.

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Me, my wife, my son will be
there on on May 7th, so we're

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ready.
But though about the only thing

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we can take with this from the
quarterback room is those two

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guys look athletically as
advertised.

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I mean that that's it.
Can can we get anything else

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from the quarterback room except
their their their potential

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floors and ceilings were higher
than Davi Balfour.

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That's why he's in the portal.
I mean, that's basically what I

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took away from it.
You know, Davi definitely looked

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the most polished from a passing
standpoint.

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Obviously wasn't Rattle wasn't
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But I think when he's when you
look at the athleticism and then

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you know, you look at the the
size of brand combined with that

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athleticism, you you definitely
impressed.

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And I think that they're looking
long term at at those two guys

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being who they're going to lean
on from a long term perspective

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at the quarterback spot.
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I mean, in in today's world,
it's like if you aren't going to

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get on the field, you get in the
portal.

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You know what I'm saying?
I mean, that's just what college

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football is.
So especially at the quarterback

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position, you see somebody that
comes in and you hear, you can

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see, I mean, if you've been in
any sports, somebody's got it,

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they got it.
If they've already started

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overtaking you and you really
want to get on the field or you

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really want to be somewhere
where you can make a difference.

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I mean, there's nothing wrong
with hitting the portal, man.

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I the portal is what it is.
I know it needs some tweaking,

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but for kids that need to get on
the field and, you know, need to

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try to find a better situation
for better situation for them,

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like I'm cool with it.
So no love lost for me, for

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anybody who who decides to do
something for the future.

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Except Tennessee's quarterback,
but we'll talk about that later.

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We will talk about that later.
There's.

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There's just, no, I mean,
there's one, there's one

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quarterback in the field at a
time.

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And I think, you know, it's a
position where you, you want to,

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you know, stack some bodies, but
once you find your guy, you're

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going to come ride with him.
Obviously that's Chiron, so you

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know my man out.
And there he goes.

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Well, the funny piece is we're
sitting here, we talk about AJ

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and Keldon and it's probably,
I'm going to guess it's probably

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going to be this time next year
that in all likelihood, one of

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them will probably go to the
portal unless they unless

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somebody jumps way up.
And, and I mean, that's just

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what it is nowadays.
But so that's done quarterback.

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We know who the top two guys
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We didn't get to see them,
unfortunately, or we didn't get

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to see them.
We, we got to hear some comments

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on how they looked and doing a
few things, but we got to hold

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that to ourselves.
Let's go to the offensive line

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because I think every single
person, not only in this

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podcast, but probably I would
say 75 to 80% of Hokie Nation

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agrees.
If we don't improve there, it'll

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make a hill of beans a hill of
shit.

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If Kyron plays great, if we can
run the ball like crazy with a

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great running back wide
received, make unbelievable

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catches because the offensive
line was below par last year and

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this year's got to be better.
Brian, I know you told me

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starting 5.
Johnny Garrett at left tackle,

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Lake Ganimet left guard, Kyle
Altooner snapping center,

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Ontavius Cunningham finally got
to play with the ones at right

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guard, and then obviously Thomas
of Tomas Remack at right tackle.

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OK, just straight up, I want to
ask before I get to Brian

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Shelton and Tally.
Y'all look at these guys on the

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line.
Do you automatically feel a

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little bit better than last
year?

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Same or worse?
Sheldon, you want to go or you

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want me to go?
You go.

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So at the spring game last year,
we did see Montavis Cunningham

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get in the game, right?
We did.

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Was it a long screen or
something?

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I've seen something happen with
him run down field and make a A

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block.
At his size, that one play was

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better than anything that two of
our starters did through the

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whole year.
So the fact that he couldn't get

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on the field on a bad offensive
line, something wasn't right.

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You know, I just didn't
understand it.

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So I think it was a little bit
of a user error on the coach's

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part.
So I didn't feel like anything

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we did was going to work.
And, you know, Long story short,

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those coaches are gone now.
So, yeah, the people that we

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have now, I feel it like it's
going to be a upgrade at the

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line, even if it's a slight
upgrade.

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I just feel like that we will
get some better play or we'll

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move on to somebody else if we
don't get better play, which is

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what I don't feel we did last
year.

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Everybody knows this.
We don't want to sound like a

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broken record, but somebody
messes up and sacks his own

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quarterback.
He stays in the game.

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It's fucking dumb.
So my opinion, think we'll be

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better there just for that.
And I, I know the coaching is

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better.
Like I don't have to go into a

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whole bunch of extra videos and
talking and things like that.

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That coach is better than the
coach we had because of what

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he's done.
That's it.

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Sheldon.
Yeah.

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I mean, I think, I think Remek
alone kind of makes them better.

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And obviously with the coaching
too, like I just, I mean, I as

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as I've sort of reflected on
last year, I think Needless to

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say, we were not getting the
most out of our potential under

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Matt Moore's predecessor, to say
the least.

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So I think, you know, but that
you got some young guys come in

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this year.
So it's like I, I think you're

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muted curse, by the way.
I think it'll be a situation

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where they start off, you know,
kind of slow and sort of figure

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out, you know, just kind of what
you know, how they how they play

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together.
And there'll be some growing

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pains.
But I think by the end of the

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year, hopefully with good
coaching, they'll kind of gel

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together.
But it's, it's going to take

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some time just with with how
much, how much you there is

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there.
And again, that's what happens

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when you ignore online
recruiting for two years, which

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is a conversation for another
day.

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But that's, that's what
happened.

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So we're stuck with it.
Brian, you, you were, you were

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there obviously taking a little
mental notes, obviously having

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people talk with give me, give
me a couple guys what you saw,

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what you like from each.
Yeah, I was taking mental notes

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during the game.
That's you were taking.

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No, I mean, so looking at the
game, looking back at the game,

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you know, you got Johnny G, you
got Ganem, you got Altoon or you

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got Cunningham, you got Remac.
I mean, Remac held a pretty good

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in Pass Pro.
You know, looking looking back

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at the tape looked pretty good
in the run game.

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Gannon was still kind of up and
down.

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I like some of what I saw.
Had a couple whiffs that you

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know, they're going to happen,
but I'd like to see him clean

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that up absolutely between now
and fall.

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Altoona lost control on a couple
combo blocks, but still held up

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pretty well across the board,
especially in Pass Pro.

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I like him better in Pass Pro
than what we had last year.

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We'll see if he's, you know, got
that more, more mentality in the

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in the trenches in the run.
But I mean, he held up a little

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bit better in pass Pro than the
Moors did last year.

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I'm interested to see how Johnny
Garrett holds up and left.

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I think he did a pretty good job
in the spring game, but I don't

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think there was a ton of
interesting stuff thrown at him

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where where he may have had to
make some decisions or there

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needed to be some communication
from the center or anything like

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that.
So I, I think it's still a wait

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and see.
I'm cautiously optimistic on the

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offensive line, especially
compared to last year.

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I think this is a group that
from a talent standpoint is

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better than what we had last
year.

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I just don't think that there's
any single player on this line

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as good as Xavier Chaplin.
And that's my only concern

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really at this point.
I got you all right.

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Who was the second group real
quick?

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So we saw Lynch, Nitta, Tommy
Ricard, Bob Schick and Lucas

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Austin in that second.
Group so and that leads into

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this so the second group two of
them are already in the portal

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along with Webb Davidson, whose
name you didn't see and I think

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that says some Brian, we were
talking.

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You said you don't believe you
ever recall seeing Brody

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Meadows.
So again, I'm going to tell

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everybody who's hurt or nicked
up.

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So but if you're telling me this
is just like the way I feel

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about it.
If you're telling me they have

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told Bob Schick to kick rocks
with the guy who has played as

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much as he has over the last two
years, then to me that's like a

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new leaf turning over right?
Because you know he can he's

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solid in pass not the best in
run, but he's a good body out

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there when you need one.
If you're telling me they, like

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you need to go on you, you need
to go on elsewhere, then that

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says a lot to me.
Also, Caleb Netta, who snapped

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the balls in the bowl game, is
gone.

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It tells me Tommy Ricardo is
probably looking a lot better

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this time, too.
Yeah, I.

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Think he was definitely nicked
up at the bowl games.

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I think some of that was an
emergency situation and some of

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that may have just been, you
know, the, the, the current

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situation we're dealing with and
wanted to see what other guys

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can do in, in, in that bowl
game.

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I don't know exactly what they
were thinking for that but but.

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All in all, we're we're tally
Sheldon.

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Were either of y'all like
shocked, especially with shit

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when y'all when I sent y'all
that tweet yesterday, it's like

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Bob chicks in the portal where
you you were shocked?

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No, y'all weren't shocked.
OK.

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Nope, I was happy.
Oh well.

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Get them out of here.
Get out of here.

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Get on out of here.
See, this is my thing.

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If you're going to be sorry, at
least be sorry with young guys.

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But I don't want to see old guys
doing the same thing.

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Like if you were my age and you
still making the same mistake,

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you ain't going to take no old
dog.

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New tricks.
Get the fuck on.

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Get out.
Like if you tell me you got a

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line full of freshmen or
freshmen and sophomore, they're

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making a mistake and missing
blocks.

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Hey man, we might have to live
with that.

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That's growing pains.
So that's like, I'm OK with

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that.
Last year, 20.

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Seven years old, still missing
the combo block.

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You ain't gonna ever make the
combo block.

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You're never going to get the
combo block if you're missing it

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at 2625.
Like man, get a job.

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Get.
Your LinkedIn page, right?

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Get that cover like get that
cover letter going.

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Get.
That get that cover letter going

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man, call you somebody.
Chat your CV baby.

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Man, ChatGPT it get you a
resume, get your resume right so

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you can and most of these I'm
making jokes, but most of these

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guys when they're that old,
especially if you've been in

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Virginia Tech, like you probably
got a good ass degree man, go

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make some money.
At this point, he's got at least

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two I.
Know a lot of people in Alabama

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that's got this walking around
and driving around with Virginia

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Tech tags that I know don't
watch a lick of football because

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they're Virginia Tech grads and
they are engineers and they are

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their grass probably looks
perfect because they go out

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there and cut it with like
freaking scissors and stuff like

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that.
And they're probably rich

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because they make so much money
and with their engineering

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degree, go make you some money,
man.

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You ain't going to be good at
football.

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Every now and then they'll call
you and say, hey, we need you to

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come back and lead the cheer
going into the fourth quarter.

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Come do that.
Let's go, Hokies, get the fuck

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off the field.
That's the only time you need to

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be on the field.
You don't ever need to put a

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helmet on.
So no disrespect to the people

444
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,400
who left.
Hey, what?

445
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,600
We, we, we got a tally deep cut
here from Jim.

446
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,920
I I like this.
We got a tally deep cut, you

447
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,520
know.
Oh, yeah.

448
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:42,800
You know this about the
Internet.

449
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,080
Man, I see that.
Man.

450
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,880
My internet's been.
You know what?

451
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,240
My internet's been doing better,
too.

452
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,280
I'm happy.
We know it has.

453
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,480
We've lost you.
I was gonna say I don't think

454
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,440
y'all lost me since I went to
Google Fiber.

455
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,360
Man, I'm giving Google Fiber a
shout out.

456
00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,480
If y'all are with AT&T, ditch
them and go to Google Fiber.

457
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,960
Google Fiber, man, they, they
put me, they put me two routers

458
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,640
in here.
Extender, whatever you call it,

459
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,960
man.
We've been we've been good to

460
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,280
go.
Not a sponsor but y'all could

461
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,480
be.
If you know Google, give us a,

462
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,440
give us a.
Call.

463
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,240
Come on man, give us the call.
Well, let's keep rolling and got

464
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,520
a off the offensive line a
little bit, but staying with it.

465
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,920
This is like the transition
point, Brian.

466
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,200
We know and we talked about it a
couple times over the last few

467
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,560
months about Matt Moore's
scheme.

468
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,280
It's some outside, it's his own
kind of going on the outside.

469
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,040
It's gap inside.
Did you see that and did you

470
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,920
like what it did on the inside?
Yeah.

471
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,960
You know, what they're doing is
they're mixing up a lot of that

472
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,000
kind of split zone with with the
counter.

473
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,440
So you got the H back in there
and sometimes they're going

474
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,520
across, sometimes they're
they're wall and they're kicking

475
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,840
back out away from the run.
So there's a lot of different

476
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,400
things that they're doing with
that that tight end, that H back

477
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,280
that gives them a lot of
opportunities both inside and

478
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,120
outside.
But we're going to see a lot

479
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,240
more pulling in this system
inside.

480
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,880
I mean, you know, power and
variations of power are going to

481
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,600
be kind of the bread and butter
of the insider run for this

482
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,040
team.
Y'all know what I did, man, for

483
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,000
like 15 minutes and didn't mean
to do it.

484
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,800
I was going through my day at
work, you know, YouTube just so

485
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,240
happened pops up.
I pull up a video of Steven

486
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:36,280
People's highlights from
whatever year that was. 2018

487
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,880
maybe.
Sounds right.

488
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:41,600
Yeah.
Our line was like Steven Peebles

489
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,920
was going to get you like 5
yards like he wasn't Tooting or

490
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,560
nothing like that.
But I was watching the online

491
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,760
during that and it's on YouTube.
I think it was like a 10 or 12

492
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,800
minute highlight video of Steven
Peebles shot at the Steven

493
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,040
Peebles hard, hard nosed
football player.

494
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:04,040
But the offensive line getting
like four and five yards, just

495
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,120
that, you know, punching the
ball in and stuff.

496
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:08,200
I'm like, man, what has this
been?

497
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,680
We ain't even got a line to do
this.

498
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,640
And this wasn't even good, you
know what I'm saying?

499
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,720
Like that wasn't even like a one
of the best lines.

500
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,240
But at the same time, just, you
just look at the physicality and

501
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,480
things like that.
It's much different than what

502
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,000
we've seen.
So I'm I'm I'm very interested

503
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,520
and excited to see what more can
do and what he brings to the

504
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,440
table, because like I said, I
mean, he's a he's a proven

505
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,560
coach.
Like I'm going to be mad no

506
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,760
matter what just because that's
what I want to be right now

507
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,760
until I see something.
But I do know that I will say

508
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,840
the coaching staff that we have,
I feel like is better at just

509
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,440
about every facet than we were
last year probably.

510
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:55,520
But this is probably Brent Prize
best coaching staff in my mind.

511
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,120
So, you know, as a whole.
So I'm, I'm interested man.

512
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,440
It is and and you mentioned
about the run game.

513
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,480
I mean, again, this is vanilla
and take credit what you will,

514
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,640
but we did average a little over
four and a half, 4.7 to carry

515
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,680
the kid from Coastal ran good.
Bennett ran best.

516
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:22,240
Yeah, Braden Bennett, like 75
yards on 11 carries.

517
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,960
But again, it's so weird because
you know he's probably not going

518
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:28,240
to get that many carries in the
game.

519
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,160
Right.
No and.

520
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,240
It's probably going to be
Stewart and probably would have

521
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,120
a little bit of Hawkins and
Bennett.

522
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,280
It's going to be probably all
over the place.

523
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,560
So you'll.
Mix, you'll mix in Coney and

524
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,800
Mason behind him, but I mean
it's going to mostly be Stewart

525
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,800
and.
Hawkins Yeah.

526
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,800
So again, we don't know.
We didn't see effectively what

527
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,200
we probably wanted to see from
the run game because without

528
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,520
Kyron, without Pop would have in
that element of the quarterback

529
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,040
run, which we know is going to
happen.

530
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,520
You don't know what it's going
to do.

531
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,080
And we know the defense in some
ways was playing vanilla, and

532
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,440
we'll talk about that in a
little while.

533
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:11,960
But what did kind of pop was you
can always see the difference

534
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:17,040
between me watching like film
and with somebody or things like

535
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,880
that, with somebody who knows
what's going on is wide

536
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,320
receivers are easy to watch.
You can see, oh, these are the

537
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,680
routes they're running.
Oh, you know, he just went, you

538
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,800
know, that was a double post
route with a little drag behind

539
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,440
it or a little in routed behind
it.

540
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,000
And I think Brian, you know,
obviously the big play was Cam

541
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,640
Selden for maiden Green Kim
Selden showing his athleticism,

542
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:45,480
showing his speed downfield.
But in your eyes, who else

543
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,960
popped in that and was there
anything as you were watching me

544
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,800
and probably very vanilla
offense that you kind of like

545
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,520
like, oh, I like that, I like
that.

546
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,080
Let me if if we can do things
like that with the full core,

547
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,120
we're going we're going to
probably move the ball some this

548
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,080
year.
Yeah, but I both greens look

549
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,160
pretty solid, even though they
didn't necessarily get a ton of

550
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,360
action.
You're looking at how they were

551
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,720
doing like blocking.
I was impressed with Donovan

552
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,320
Green outside.
He did, he did pretty well with

553
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,440
the with the blocking.
So I mean, we saw a lot of that.

554
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,760
We got to evaluate that a little
bit.

555
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,360
We saw Selden on the wheel with
the double pass from Aiden

556
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,960
Green.
You know, that was that was the

557
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,720
home run play.
Saw Wiggins out there.

558
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,480
He looked pretty good, pretty
solid.

559
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,200
I mean, he, I know he, he kind
of bobbled that, that diving

560
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,960
catch that ended up in the pick
6.

561
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,240
But I thought he, I mean, he
made a, he made a really good

562
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,560
dive to try to get that.
That was a pretty poorly thrown

563
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,280
ball that, you know, was almost
a catch there, unfortunately,

564
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,600
and went the other way.
Yeah, route concepts.

565
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:54,360
We saw a lot of, you know,
drags, shallow ends, hitches,

566
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,600
and then you're going to take
some deeper shots off of that.

567
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,840
So it's going to be a lot of
stuff kind of in that, you know,

568
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,680
3 to 7 yard range with the
catch.

569
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,600
And the thing that I saw a lot
is that there were a lot of

570
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:14,080
those that were open that the
quarterback didn't get to for

571
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,520
one reason or another.
And some of it was happy feet,

572
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,880
some of it was just not getting
through progressions quickly

573
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,520
enough.
So, yeah, there was a lot of

574
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,280
opportunities and a lot of yards
that were left on the field in

575
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,680
the passing game that you know,
if if you've got a pop out

576
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,120
there, if you've got a Kyron out
there, you might end up seeing a

577
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,440
little bit more on the stat
sheet than you saw from this

578
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,200
wide receiver group.
Definitely.

579
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,240
Only a couple passes behind the
line of scrimmage.

580
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,600
Josh, don't worry.
Don't worry.

581
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,880
Not too many, unfortunately.
One of them got sniffed out real

582
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,000
quick by Knowledge Harold, who
we'll talk about in a little

583
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,480
bit.
He had, he had himself a pretty

584
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,240
good game.
Yeah, I heard.

585
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,600
And so just like Brian was
saying, so pretty much the two

586
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,680
quarterbacks we had in the game
for the most part, right, were

587
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,000
supposed to be seniors in high
school.

588
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,600
So Brandon and and Ryan is
supposed to be in high school,

589
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,520
right?
Yeah, for about 2/3 of the game

590
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:09,960
that that's the guys that were
in there.

591
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,520
So I mean, you know, you're
going to get what you're going

592
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,880
to get there, but and we need
our guys to be healthy moving in

593
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,000
if we want to make some noise
moving into the next year.

594
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,440
But Ryan got to hit the nail on
the head.

595
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,680
Like you said, if you had the
top two guys, you may have got

596
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,400
to see a little bit more out of
the, you know, wide receiver

597
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,200
room.
And the wide receiver room's

598
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,040
been banged up as well.
You know, you got some of the

599
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,120
wide receivers that aren't there
as well right now.

600
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,480
So I'm interested just to see,
you know, what route they go.

601
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,600
How are they used to Kahi, you
know, things like that cheer.

602
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,280
You know, I, I, I'm very
interested to see what they do

603
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,960
with that room and who is going
to step up to, you know, be that

604
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,560
third guy or that fourth guy and
stuff like that.

605
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,400
And I did, I didn't watch much
of the game.

606
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,560
I haven't watched much of it
because like I said it, it, it

607
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,000
doesn't really matter to me
right now.

608
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,000
And I don't want to just be on
that critiquing because I'm mad.

609
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,719
But I did see the, you know,
and, and hear about and see the

610
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:20,120
the pick that Wiggins bobbled.
And for him being a young player

611
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,199
man, it it it's going to be so
good when he can make those

612
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:26,560
plays because that's going to be
taking the next step for him.

613
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,719
You know what I'm saying?
Like he's going to be fighting

614
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,679
to get playing time, going to be
fighting to get on the field.

615
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,960
So when he gets to the level
where he can pull those 5050

616
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,440
balls in, it's going to help the
team, but also going to help

617
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,199
him.
So it's interested just to see,

618
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,080
you know, what happens moving
forward through the summer,

619
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,440
who's going to step up?
Because you know, it always

620
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,639
happens.
Somebody's going to stay the

621
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,400
same, somebody's going to step
up, somebody's going to fall

622
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,639
off, somebody's going to get
injured.

623
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,400
Don't want them to be injured,
but I'm interested to see kind

624
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,280
of how those kids and how that
room progresses.

625
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,920
All right, let me Sheldon's
looking up something real quick.

626
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,280
Hopefully you can find the next
couple minutes.

627
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,920
But I want to ask you all this
because last year, do you all

628
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,480
know who our leading receiver
was?

629
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,760
Mason, Who was it?
Was it Jay Lane?

630
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,960
Jaylen Lane.
The only catches he had.

631
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:26,240
Probably 35. 39 So here's my
question for y'all is with this

632
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:33,040
new offense coming in, how many
the the leading receiver this

633
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,520
year will have how many
receptions?

634
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:35,640
Because I'm, I'm gonna throw it
back.

635
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,240
Don't look at Auburn because to
Tally's point, that won't fill

636
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:40,720
up Montgomery's offense at
Auburn.

637
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,760
He got hijacked last time he
coached A collegiate football

638
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,880
team.
His top three guys were as

639
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:53,120
follows. 7653 and 37 and it was
too tight at 37.

640
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,440
So y'all think about it real
quick.

641
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,400
I'll, I'll, I'll I'll I'm gonna
let Sheldon go last.

642
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,480
He actually Sheldon go first.
How many receptions will the

643
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,240
leading wide receiver have this
year?

644
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,080
35 he's.
Gonna go 35.

645
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:08,920
He's going.
He's staying.

646
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,480
Low tally.
I'd probably say 47.

647
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,440
Let's go with 52.
That's a.

648
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,520
That's a nice round.
Number.

649
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,120
Oh, that's your favorite number?
Anybody see?

650
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,960
I'm, I'm leaning with Brian here
because if you look at the

651
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,360
offenses here and a it's
balanced.

652
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,400
That's the first thing everybody
says.

653
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,040
He's a past heavy guy.
No, he's not.

654
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,360
Most of the time about 400 past
attempts, about 400 rush

655
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,520
attempts.
So it's pretty balanced.

656
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,160
And I think again, from what
Brian's describing, think about

657
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,000
some of those easy underneath
routes, drag routes, shallow

658
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,560
ends, you'll see him where he'll
have hookup guys out in the

659
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,840
flats.
I'm tempted to say maybe plus

660
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,880
52, Brown, maybe almost 60.
Because if you think a guy like

661
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,400
Donovan Green, who's played for
like 14 years in collegiate

662
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,960
football, which is pretty
impressive that he's been able

663
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:03,560
to do that, he's somebody said
he needs to shave the mustache.

664
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,160
Somebody make Ashley and shave
the mustache.

665
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,200
I'm going to go pit him because
that mustache is on point.

666
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,680
In my opinion.
It is That thing is

667
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,000
distinguished.
It looks beautiful.

668
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,440
Like keep, keep the mustache.
But if you think somebody like a

669
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,280
Donovan Green who's been at
weight for a few years and you

670
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,880
know his skill set and then you
start thinking about well,

671
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,200
Chand, anything about Selden and
you think about all these guys.

672
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:36,320
It's like, I think there is
someone, if we run the offense

673
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,960
that we should run.
If we were on the offense that

674
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,000
we should run, then I think
somebody could wind up with

675
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,200
close to 60.
That's just my opinion, like

676
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,240
understanding it.
And I kind of again, I look at

677
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:53,720
Donovan Green who is down in
wakes offense.

678
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,800
I think he might be the guy, but
it I just feel like it there is

679
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,960
going to be someone that does
something crazy with receptions

680
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,680
next year.
Yeah, I feel like, I feel like

681
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,080
just me.
And again, man, I promise you,

682
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,480
I'm not like wishing anything on
nobody but somebody who's been

683
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,200
injured.
It's kind of they're injury

684
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:18,720
prone.
I don't want to use that word,

685
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,680
but like I can only judge the
future by the past for the most

686
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,400
part.
So you've been getting injured

687
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,000
most of the time.
Like I don't want to say this is

688
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,040
going to be your year.
You're not going to get injured.

689
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,240
I just got to have in my head
that what will we do if this

690
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,720
person isn't able to finish the
season or this person has to

691
00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:39,640
miss some games?
So in my opinion, the person, if

692
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,000
I'm going to think about who
would be the leading receiver,

693
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,880
it's got to be Aiden Green.
You know, it's got to be Aiden

694
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,000
Green.
He's got to be the guy.

695
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,280
He's going to be the most
versatile.

696
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,240
He's going to be the one who has
taken the most snaps at Virginia

697
00:38:53,240 --> 00:38:54,840
Tech.
It's probably going to be the

698
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,680
one the coaches rely on most,
even though I know he did get

699
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,520
new, you know, new coaching, but
the head coach is still the

700
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,120
same.
So Aiden Green is probably going

701
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,640
to be the guy that they rely on
the most unless somebody just

702
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,160
gets open and we're able to get
them the ball, you know, all

703
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,840
comes down the offensive line.
We know all that.

704
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,320
But I can say you have some guys
that you can use different ways

705
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,440
this year.
I just hope they use them right.

706
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:26,880
Because if you use a guy like
Brody Adams, when he come back,

707
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,280
Keelan Adams, don't kill me.
Keelan Adams.

708
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:36,480
Keelan Adams, when he comes
back, right, I see it watching

709
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,840
him in the bowl game when he
took that, you know, when he

710
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,560
took that pass, it's like he or
that end of round, it's like

711
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,200
he's faster than that.
Like I've seen him run a lot of

712
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,560
routes and I've seen him run.
He's faster than well, I didn't

713
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,000
know he was having knee
problems.

714
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:55,280
You know, he wasn't 100%.
So when you get a kid like that

715
00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,440
or even Takah Heath, Kah Heath
is real, you know, quick twitch,

716
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,560
you get him in a little bit of
space, he can do some things.

717
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:08,200
So those are going to be some
guys that may eat up some, you

718
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:15,120
know, 10 yard or 10:10 passes
around the around the line of

719
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,840
scrimmage.
But also you got to have

720
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,120
somebody who can take the top
off.

721
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,280
So who did we use to take the
top off last year?

722
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:23,920
Any of y'all?
Felton.

723
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:31,240
Felton and yeah, Felton.
So in in my opinion, nothing

724
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:34,320
wrong with Felton, but Felton
isn't even your fastest guy.

725
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,480
Like that's not your take the
top off guy.

726
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,040
We never put Jay Lane in the
position and again, the

727
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,520
quarterback didn't have much
time to throw the ball, but Jay

728
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,720
Lane's a four two guy.
Hey, you just run and let's see

729
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:50,080
if we can throw it to you.
We didn't do that a lot.

730
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,560
Like even when they were talking
about it during the combine, it

731
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,000
was like, well, Virginia Tech
didn't use them to do this a

732
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,680
lot.
But he's he's super fast.

733
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:03,120
And again, he was hurt as well.
But I'm just hoping with all

734
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,360
this rambling, I'm just hoping
that the new offensive

735
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,920
coordinator comes in and uses
the pieces where they need to be

736
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,600
used.
I'm OK with each guy getting 10

737
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,120
catches if they're productive,
10 catches.

738
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,840
Put this guy here, let him do
what he does.

739
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,280
Good.
Put this guy here, let him go do

740
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,000
what he does.
Cam Selton, right.

741
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,280
He's a track guy that came from
running at or from being a

742
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,680
running back.
He's probably not going to be

743
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,520
the most crisp route runner, but
he should be one of the fastest

744
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,360
guys on the team.
Probably going to put him on a

745
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,560
deep ride and see if we can
throw him the ball and not try

746
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,120
to put him on some complicated
this and that.

747
00:41:43,720 --> 00:41:47,280
I don't know man, y'all know how
I feel about our old offensive

748
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,080
coordinator so.
We go with that stuff, all

749
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,040
right, Sheldon, break it to us.
So does Phillip Montgomery

750
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,000
offenses.
How many?

751
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,320
What's the percentages behind
the line of scrimmage?

752
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:01,440
So I had to reduce the the
number of attempts because they

753
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,560
they throw so infrequently
behind line of scrimmage.

754
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,800
So the last two years at Tulsa
where Montgomery had control the

755
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,480
offense, Davis Brin was dead
last among all all FBS

756
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,640
quarterbacks and percentage of
throws behind the line.

757
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,800
So it's around 5.6% they do not
throw behind the line.

758
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,560
Davis Davis Brin was our
quarterback.

759
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,120
He was pretty good.
They got injured at the cell end

760
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,960
of that 22 seasons, but pretty
put up some pretty, you know,

761
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,920
big numbers.
They pass a lot, but they just

762
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,960
don't go behind the line.
So it was kind of, yeah, yeah,

763
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,880
5.6% for for Joshua, Wisconsin.
So about one out of every, I

764
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,440
guess 20 rows.
So which isn't really, I mean.

765
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,240
That's a big switch out for what
we saw from from T bows, yeah.

766
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,840
Yeah, you don't say like and it
and it gets to what our friend

767
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,680
Chris Coleman was saying, which
is like, we don't necessarily

768
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:54,240
know how well Montgomery fits
our personnel.

769
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,880
So like Kyron, a guy like Kim,
you know, at least in 2023, a

770
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,760
lot of his his success was
predicated on, you know, throws

771
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,280
upon line of scrimmage, getting
guys in space, using the seal

772
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,520
guys using their speed on the
perimeter and setting up big

773
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,800
plays with blocking.
But and they did some of the two

774
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,120
last year, not as effectively,
but that's that's the way Kyron

775
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,080
was used effectively.
So I don't know if we're going

776
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,400
to how, how that kind of
contrast is really going to

777
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,880
going to mesh well next year.
So that'll be interesting to

778
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,640
see.
So we, we saw a couple, like

779
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,800
looking at the spring game tape,
we saw really a couple that you

780
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,480
would consider they were either
behind the line or designed to

781
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,280
be a behind the line of
scrimmage plays.

782
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:44,320
That I remember you had kind of
a zone RPO that, yeah, you could

783
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,360
really kind of drop out to the,
the, the HVAC that was coming

784
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,120
across got to that split zone
RPO.

785
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,680
Ultimately they didn't throw it,
but that would have been a

786
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,760
behind the line of scrimmage
opportunity.

787
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,200
And then they threw a swing
pass.

788
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,720
They got ate up by Knowledge
Herald.

789
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,160
That's the only two plays that I
remember in the spring game that

790
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,160
were like true behind the line
of scrimmage designs.

791
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,960
And I think something like that
is probably what you're going to

792
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,880
see from a behind a lot of
scrimmage standpoint.

793
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,800
There's not going to be a true
scream.

794
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,880
Look, you're definitely not
going to get any screens to the

795
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,840
tight end like we saw a plethora
of under Tebow.

796
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:26,840
So expect maybe like, you know,
swings and maybe some of that

797
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:32,080
RPO in the split zone kind of
really being the, the only, you

798
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,160
know, couple that you'll see
from time to time.

799
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,760
Obviously with the caveat that
they might, you know, change it

800
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,520
up and add a little additional
color to that as as we get

801
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,800
further into the playbook.
Yeah, and then 111 real quick

802
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,240
point, I just I'll put a cap
right now.

803
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:48,520
So I looked up for for Kyron
Summers last year.

804
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,320
We were good throwing behind the
line in 2023, but 24 was really

805
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,160
bad.
We were we were dead last in the

806
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,760
FBS and passer rating on throws
behind the line.

807
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,800
So for Brian, I don't know how
much of that was, you know,

808
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,240
maybe guys not hitting their
blocks.

809
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,760
How much of that was, you know,
defense is starting to key on

810
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,480
those on those plays more
because I think we have full

811
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,000
full year of film.
You can kind of identify that.

812
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,360
And so maybe maybe tech was
predictable in terms of how they

813
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,280
structure the passing game.
That could have been the case.

814
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,000
So again.
Said that.

815
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,240
I remember y'all saying that
about, I don't say eight games

816
00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,400
of the season.
It's like people.

817
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,640
No, I think it was a combination
of everybody saying Tebow did

818
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,480
not build like you have these
plays that are good, you can't

819
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,720
keep just going to that.
You have to put new stuff in.

820
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,880
Or what you just said right
there happened, Shelton, where

821
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,000
you go from a solidly successful
team on passes behind a line of

822
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:42,400
scrimmage to Jesus Christ, we
can't get anything done behind

823
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,600
the line of scrimmage where last
year we we throw a pop pass, we

824
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,840
get 15 yards.
This year we can't do anything.

825
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,600
So.
I like screens.

826
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,000
I mean, I know Josh doesn't, but
I like screens.

827
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,200
But I was, I was screamed out.
I was screamed out.

828
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,520
Well, because it was the same
screens all the time, it wasn't

829
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,720
variations.
Yeah.

830
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:07,320
I mean try to hide them.
We just tried it out there.

831
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,480
It looked like my son's team was
playing.

832
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,160
They had him playing quarterback
telling him, hey, throw the ball

833
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,800
to 72.
Hey, throw the ball to 10.

834
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,000
I'm like, that ain't no freaking
offense.

835
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,320
They the other team probably
hears you.

836
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,880
You know, you're supposed to be
a, you're supposed to be a high

837
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,200
level college football coach and
team.

838
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,480
We didn't look like that.
I think Shelton hit the nail on

839
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,800
the head when he said something
about, I don't know how much of

840
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,480
it was predicated on passing.
I mean on blocking.

841
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,200
Let me tell you, all of it was
predicated on blocking, which we

842
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,440
didn't do good.
You know, the people we had

843
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:51,160
blocking wasn't blocking worth
the shit at all, ever, ever.

844
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,960
We were stepping on the
quarterback and guess what?

845
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:01,040
I'm all for a coach changing his
system to fit his players.

846
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:02,800
That's what I think a good coach
is.

847
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,240
Not an Alabama fan.
I'm a Nick Saban fan.

848
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,000
Nick Saban would change offense
or defense to fit his players.

849
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,560
Y'all remember when Alabama used
to turn around and run the ball

850
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,360
like a?
100 * a.

851
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,800
Game and then they start getting
these quarterbacks that could

852
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,960
move and throw and throw on the
run and do all this stuff and

853
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,000
Alabama fans will steal.
I was like, you know what, man,

854
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,040
that's a good coach.
He hired some people who trained

855
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,360
with the times.
I want to see that done.

856
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,800
And then if your players ain't
getting it done, it's OK to sit

857
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,400
them down.
Hey, buddy, you can't throw the

858
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,600
ball.
You're a quarterback.

859
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,640
Come over here and watch the
game with me.

860
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,800
You got the best seats in the
house.

861
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,800
Let's put this kid in and see
what he can do.

862
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,760
That's what I think should
happen, but I'm not the coach.

863
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,080
I ain't making millions of
dollars.

864
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,920
So hoping that's what they do.
All righty.

865
00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:55,840
So there's a little bit of the
offense and what we've seen.

866
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,480
Obviously we we got to wait
months now, but let's flip over

867
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,000
to the defense because the
defense had a highly successful

868
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,040
day.
Because they it won't.

869
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,640
Many people who weren't aren't
going to be starters that were

870
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,120
not there.
Like they were full in force.

871
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,280
They were running extra vanilla
because Brian, I believe you or

872
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,080
Robbie mentioned like they mean
blitz.

873
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,600
Like they didn't even do
blitzes, which we know.

874
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,520
They had a handful of zone
blitzes.

875
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,200
That's about all they did.
They didn't bring any like heavy

876
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,520
pressures on on passing downs or
anything like that.

877
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,000
Usually if they it was more if
they brought pressure, they were

878
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,840
essentially trading out who was
coming and who wasn't they, but

879
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,720
they were still only rushing 4,
maybe 5 at the most.

880
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,480
So yeah, it was pretty.
It was pretty vanilla.

881
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,240
True.
All right, let's get into it.

882
00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:49,040
Let's just talk about obviously
everybody's focused on the

883
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:53,840
safeties.
Brian, you were there, you saw

884
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,880
it in person.
You you looked at a little bit

885
00:48:55,880 --> 00:49:00,520
of the, the game.
What's this, What's this?

886
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,480
Who's the who's the best of the
all the guys that we brought in?

887
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,520
Yeah, looking at that safety
group, Christian Ellis has stood

888
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:15,800
out to me as looking the best.
He's going to be a ball hawk

889
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:18,360
when when I when I look at him,
I saw him.

890
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:24,400
There was one where he jumped
around and Davi almost threw it

891
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,000
and he he pulled it back, ended
up taking a sack and but he was

892
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,840
going to be there.
He was ready to it was it would

893
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,360
have been a pick six.
It would have been it would have

894
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,640
been a beautiful thing if if
Davi would have thrown that one.

895
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,520
He looked really good.
He was in in in every place he

896
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,120
needed to be that I could tell.
And he did a good job, as good

897
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,560
of a job in coverage as he did
in in hell in assisting in the

898
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,120
run game.
So he's definitely the guy that

899
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,560
I think is going to be the most
impact player of the new guys on

900
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,640
the defense so far as far as
we're the safety position is

901
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,400
concerned.
All right, and then what did it

902
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,640
look like what we mixing and
matching And you know it's

903
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,200
pretty much is this going to be
all the new guys with Quinn

904
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,560
Reddish that pretty much going
to be the room.

905
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:12,520
That's what I'm thinking.
I mean, so we, we really saw

906
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,560
five guys out there.
We saw Ellis and Flowers kind of

907
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:19,040
in Group 1.
Koval and Cash were in Group 2.

908
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,040
Johnson mixed in there.
When Reddish is healthy, he's

909
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,240
going to mix in there.
Obviously Johnson is no longer

910
00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:26,000
in that group.
But if that's probably the five

911
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,840
that we're looking at, we're
looking at Ellis, Flowers,

912
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,840
Koval, Cash with, with Reddish
kind of mixing in there as well.

913
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,720
I don't know whether he'll be in
Group one or Group 2 or kind of

914
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:38,680
mixing in with Group 2, but
he'll be in that mix as well

915
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,800
all.
Right now, let's talk about the

916
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,880
cover stuff because I know you
looked at it and Robbie saw it

917
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,280
and we tried a little bit about
it.

918
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,800
I think the one thing that has
me probably excited about the

919
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,520
defense is it's a disguise
defense.

920
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,440
And I remember Robbie messaged
me after he saw spring game or

921
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,120
messaged me.
And you, Brian, he's like, yeah.

922
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,400
He's like, they look like
they're in Cover 2 shell right

923
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,400
here.
And the next thing you know,

924
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,520
they in Cover 30, they're, oh,
they're going to run a single

925
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,440
high and the next thing you
know, they're in Cover 2.

926
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:14,120
How did that look?
Because it looks from the way

927
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,960
you described it to me and the
way Robbie was describing it,

928
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,400
Tally, I know you haven't
watched as much, but from you

929
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,360
playing it seems like that back
end is almost we can show you

930
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,240
anything, but we can get to
whatever we want to confuse you.

931
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:35,840
Yeah, when I when I was looking
at it, it, it was really, I

932
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,320
think, I think we're going to
call some teams some problems.

933
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:42,240
I think also, you know, with
with adding that additional

934
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:48,120
complexity to the coverage, you
know, you're at risk that if

935
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,760
somebody doesn't get a call or
somebody isn't quite where they

936
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,080
need to be, you know, you blow a
coverage.

937
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,000
But what I'm seeing is that
there's going to be a lot of

938
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:04,400
opportunities for us to confuse
some quarterbacks and I like

939
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,040
that there.
It looks like it's a very

940
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:13,600
simplistic way of disguising the
coverage because it's it's

941
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,840
usually just a it's it's kind of
a replace situation or either

942
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,120
you got a match call and
depending on where where things

943
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,640
go, you know, one guy can pick
up pick up the the wide out and

944
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,080
and stay with him there.
There was a lot of interesting

945
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:28,640
ways that they mixed in the
coverages.

946
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,520
I mean, we saw a lot of cover
three.

947
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,520
You just some cover 2, some
cover one.

948
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,640
They went to, you know, cover 6
a couple times.

949
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:40,840
But I mean, I think majority,
we're going to see two and get 3

950
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,960
and then three and get 2.
That's kind of going to be the,

951
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,680
the bread and butter.
But I, I, I think that's going

952
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,800
to cause some guys, some
problems, especially because we,

953
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,360
when you mix in the zone blitz
with that, I think that that's

954
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,760
going to cause quarterbacks some
headaches because they're,

955
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,200
they're now having to adjust
their brain of where they want

956
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,360
to go with the football because
the coverage is shifted up.

957
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,480
And now they got a pressure
coming from here that they

958
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,640
didn't see.
Josh said.

959
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:11,520
Josh says this what Ellis does.
The broken wrist set him back.

960
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,760
Somebody broke their wrist.
When did he break his wrist?

961
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,760
I haven't heard anything about
that.

962
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,400
Yeah, I ain't known about that.
Hey.

963
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,000
Drop the link Josh for us if.
I mean, I, I don't think it sets

964
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,040
him back too much.
I mean, usually a wrist.

965
00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:30,840
But have you heard about it?
I haven't.

966
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,120
I haven't either.
Usually that's a four to six

967
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,560
week recovery, but I don't know.
I mean, it might, he might not

968
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,840
be in summer workouts the way
you want him to, but I think

969
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,240
you'll be good to go for the
fall.

970
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,040
Who said?
Who did French say was trash?

971
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:47,200
French said somebody was
garbage.

972
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,720
Trench hated cash, no.
No, no, I don't think.

973
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:51,800
It was, I thought it was
flowers.

974
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,240
I thought it was flowers.
Flowers.

975
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,360
Flowers.
That's the guy.

976
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,000
That's the key from Rice, right?
Rice, yeah.

977
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,720
What do you look like, Brian?
I mean, I thought he looked

978
00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:01,280
pretty good.
I mean, he did look bad.

979
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,840
He's doing a lot, lot of the
he's he's playing deeper more

980
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,480
often than not.
So like when he when he's back

981
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,200
in coverage, he's playing deeper
or he's matching up in man.

982
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:16,360
French they on your ass Well, I
wasn't on your ass buddy.

983
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,760
He is going to prove you wrong.
Got to pick you up in his locker

984
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,720
right now.
He taking a.

985
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:24,560
Locker.
He snapped the picture.

986
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,360
Here in the show, watch the.
Podcast.

987
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,480
He's like, all right bet.
We have a new.

988
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,040
Locker room yet it's coming.
It's coming.

989
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:36,960
I've heard that for three years
though, I think.

990
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,080
It's true this year.
That's why I was.

991
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,280
Asking we we edging the fuck out
of this locker room.

992
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,000
What are we doing?
We keep pulling it back for we

993
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,760
keep pulling it back for NIO
money.

994
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,480
We're going to do it this year.
Picture going to be up in that

995
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:51,800
new locker room.
Buddy boy there.

996
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,560
You go, Brian, you mentioned
Harold couple times playing the

997
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,360
nickel.
We know IBM is the nickel guy

998
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:06,600
too.
I mean is is that base do?

999
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,400
You think, I mean, we were in
nickel pretty much the whole

1000
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:16,600
game, which I mean against the
spread look, it makes sense.

1001
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,360
Like you're, you're that's kind
of what you expect.

1002
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:24,040
You know, we we switched up the
front a little bit.

1003
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,520
Sometimes it was more that true,
you know, 24 look, sometimes it

1004
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,680
was a it was an odd look with a
hanger.

1005
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:36,200
So it just kind of depended on
what they were going.

1006
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,600
But I mean, the back end was
pretty consistent there.

1007
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:43,840
Yeah, you had IBM Brown Murray
was kind of the first nickel out

1008
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:45,880
there.
But knowledge Harold was was the

1009
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,800
number two and I was really
impressed with the way he played

1010
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,920
in the spring game.
I ain't been watching it.

1011
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,080
I know he was going to be a dog.
Supposed to be in high school

1012
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,240
too.
Yeah, yeah.

1013
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,240
I mean, he was out there and he
was, he was making some plays.

1014
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,720
He was where you're supposed to
be under control.

1015
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:07,480
Didn't look like he was, you
know, a guy that was going, you

1016
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,280
know, overrun a play or anything
like that.

1017
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,440
He he did really well.
All right.

1018
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,480
Obviously the news you mentioned
John, Braylon Johnson being on

1019
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,440
here, Brendan Johnson now in the
portal, I mean.

1020
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,880
It's.
In my shock, no, because of

1021
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,560
everything that happened with
the change.

1022
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:34,160
But it's also it it's that point
to where eventually you got to

1023
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,320
be able to play, which I think
Braylon Johnson is going to be

1024
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,680
able to play college football
somewhere.

1025
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:44,040
But I I think no longer somebody
think about this.

1026
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,680
It's like we're, we're not going
to just save a spot just because

1027
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,360
of where you went to high school
or who your daddy is or.

1028
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,600
I I think you can give a show me
offer and, and let them get on

1029
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,920
campus and show what they can
do, but you're not going to hold

1030
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,400
it for four years.
There you go.

1031
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:04,760
Just because and you know,
looking at that, I mean, you

1032
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,000
know, the thing the concern that
we had with Braylon Johnson

1033
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:09,720
coming in is that he was kind of
a tweener.

1034
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,840
You know, he's a he's a
cornerback that, you know, we

1035
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:21,480
essentially had at safety wasn't
quite as fast as fleet of foot

1036
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,760
as you would like to see from
from a corner, kind of wasn't as

1037
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,600
physical and as good doing the
things that you have to do with

1038
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,360
the safety that we wanted to
see, especially.

1039
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,640
I mean, when we look at coming
up and making plays in the run

1040
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,400
game.
I mean there, there was a lot of

1041
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:43,680
a lot of whiffs from Johnson in
that last year.

1042
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,440
You know, we we saw a couple
things that that that went on in

1043
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,400
the spring game as well.
It's just one of those things

1044
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:51,520
where at at some point, if
you're not moving up the depth

1045
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:52,920
chart, you got to make a
decision.

1046
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,640
And and I think, you know, some,
some conversations were had that

1047
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,480
said, hey, you're going to be
you're going to be the sixth

1048
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,080
guy.
And it you know, you, you're

1049
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,600
already, you know, working on
your third year in this program.

1050
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:09,680
What we looking at here?
Said the new locker rooms with

1051
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,400
wit will be the old locker room
with wallpapered in Found your

1052
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,160
corner quotes.
I hope so.

1053
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,080
Hey, I, I.
Hope I do not, no.

1054
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,000
If anything's going to motivate
them kids to play, it's going to

1055
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,880
be our quotes, man.
It's going to be our quotes.

1056
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:33,480
Oh Lord that's what you want.
We will live in infamy in that

1057
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,360
shitty ass locker room.
This is something that I'll ask

1058
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:37,000
Curtis.
I'm.

1059
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,720
Going to tell you, Can I say
something?

1060
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,200
Go ahead, you.
Always own one in the chat

1061
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,160
tonight.
All of y'all.

1062
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,600
I mean y'all is on one go they.
Ramped up.

1063
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,120
They ramped up.
They all ramped up.

1064
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,240
Curtis, this is what I asked,
though, because I don't know for

1065
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,240
sure.
I have not been on Twitter for

1066
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:54,880
real.
Or X or whatever you want to

1067
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,120
call it, X videos.
I don't know what we called it

1068
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:02,440
today, but is Braylon Johnson is
a grad transfer, right?

1069
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,800
Did he get his degree in like 3
years or two years?

1070
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,080
He got in 2 1/2.
I think he did, Yeah.

1071
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,040
That's crazy.
That's awesome for him though,

1072
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:15,120
to leave with a degree and leave
us a grad transfer like that's,

1073
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,680
that's good.
That's pretty good.

1074
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:23,440
That's that's damn good.
But yeah, in in I'm on mute.

1075
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,560
It's like 30 of them quotes in
the locker room.

1076
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,040
Right.
All right, all.

1077
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,320
Right.
Thankfully we don't have any

1078
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:34,520
more.
We lost tally we.

1079
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:43,120
Lost Tally, you said?
Brian, you're on mute, Brian.

1080
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,960
I mean, Curtis, Curtis, you're
on mute.

1081
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,960
That's what I'm saying.
No, you're not on mute, but I'm

1082
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,280
just saying.
That's what y'all got to do.

1083
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,400
Well, it's the court over here.
All right, real quick, kick the

1084
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,320
linebackers.
McDonald and Fleming are gone.

1085
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,240
Same thing.
Both McDonald's are gone.

1086
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,200
Cam Fleming's gone, tried to
make the move to linebacker,

1087
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,920
didn't work out.
But Brian, I think from what

1088
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,320
we've seen in reading, it's,
it's pretty much Keller Woodson,

1089
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:15,040
George, George Balance, shout
out George Balance and Kayla, I

1090
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,920
mean, Kayla Spencer, right?
Hey, man.

1091
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,800
So, yeah, there there was There
was some fun rotations at

1092
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,240
linebacker, you know, the usual
suspects.

1093
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,280
She had Keller, you had Woodson.
Hang on, where is?

1094
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,920
Where is the where?
Where's the?

1095
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:31,760
Where's the?
Oh, no, no.

1096
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:32,720
I got.
I got.

1097
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,400
I got you I.
Got you, Josh Young.

1098
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,280
Josh Young.
Put it in there.

1099
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:43,960
Yeah, I'll find it.
Anyway, three time spring ball

1100
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:51,680
MVP Jane Keller in the starting
rotation at Mike Woodson playing

1101
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,160
the other backer there.
He had Balance and Spencer in

1102
01:00:54,160 --> 01:01:01,200
there as well.
I wouldn't say concerned, but

1103
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,200
like I'd like one more in the
portal.

1104
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,920
I think that's kind of the my
big take away from seeing this

1105
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:11,440
group and I I think they will
hold up just fine.

1106
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,680
But I don't think I, I think
maybe even we'll see some

1107
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:19,480
additional, some better play
compared to last year, But I'd

1108
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:23,360
still like to maybe get another
body in that room that has some

1109
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,240
experience in the portal as
we're moving forward.

1110
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,200
I think, you know, looking at
the offers we're throwing out

1111
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:33,280
there, that's not the only I'm
not the only person thinking

1112
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,520
that.
Yeah, and I mean, I think,

1113
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,040
again, I think what you said, we
can live with it, but it's depth

1114
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,680
is depth, right?
And you know, Keller's gone

1115
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:46,640
after this year.
I believe balance is gone after

1116
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,920
this year too.
So if anything, bringing the

1117
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,000
other guy in you, you kind of
are setting yourself up for the

1118
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:57,160
future And and I don't know,
spring to me, fuck the spring

1119
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,720
portal.
Springboard needs to go away.

1120
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:03,360
I'm just going to be real.
Spring Portal needs to go away.

1121
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,600
You know, that's, that's just my
feeling.

1122
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,560
You want to do it.
It needs to be sometime after

1123
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,440
the bowl games, but after
national championship, it starts

1124
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,680
here.
It's like 2 weeks.

1125
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,320
That's it.
Then do it.

1126
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,400
Spring Portal fucks too much
shit up, which we're going to

1127
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,960
talk about later.
All right, Sheldon, you're back.

1128
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,360
Sheldon, people are very worried
about you out here, very worried

1129
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:33,000
about you that potentially did
you get Tally's Internet?

1130
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,640
Are you?
Are you on Tally's Internet?

1131
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,520
I did not get Tyson.
I had to.

1132
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,640
I had to take care of some
business, got some water and now

1133
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:46,520
I'm back.
OK, let's go to defensive

1134
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,240
alignment because I think of
again after safeties.

1135
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,320
The only thing we kind of don't
know is what the defensive

1136
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:56,480
alignment looks like.
Again, look in it and Shelton

1137
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:59,000
you, you, you wrote stuff on
this, you've read about it.

1138
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,040
See if kiss can do anything.
That's the whole thing.

1139
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,880
He does not care.
He to me, he is not married to

1140
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:13,560
anyone idea.
He's not married to anyone idea.

1141
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:19,760
Front looks, all this stuff
which I really like because it's

1142
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,800
you have to play through the
personnel you have there and

1143
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:27,760
from what it looked like on
Saturday, 2 weeks ago, it's

1144
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,320
going to look like that this
year.

1145
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,560
So y'all, we, we, we, we, we
wrote some notes when we chatted

1146
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,720
with each other.
What did y'all like seeing out

1147
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:43,360
of all this as far as the
alignments go?

1148
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,840
I mean, I like that, that we're
kind of adapting the, the

1149
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:55,280
alignment based on the, the way
that the offense wants to attack

1150
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,880
us.
So we we can, we can really be

1151
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,360
flexible to what what they do
and take that away.

1152
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,480
I think that's, that's one of
the benefits of being, being

1153
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:16,240
multiple is that you may not be
a hammer at everything or at one

1154
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:20,160
specific thing, but you're like,
all right, you're a drill at

1155
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,960
pretty much everything.
Like you can, you can handle

1156
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,640
some stuff here, you can put
some stuff in.

1157
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:30,920
So there's a, there's a benefit
of not really having as many

1158
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:35,400
holes or weaknesses relative to
what an offense is trying to do

1159
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,080
from a scheme standpoint.
Again, the the downside is that

1160
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,960
you know, if you, if you are
really good in one area, you

1161
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,440
know you lose a little bit of
that, that high end in that

1162
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,680
specific spot, but you know you
can, you can.

1163
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:50,600
It gives you a lot more
flexibility with different

1164
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:55,280
looks, adapting to personnel a
lot quicker and adapting to what

1165
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,240
a a certain scheme is going to
throw at you.

1166
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,720
I got you and you go ahead and
hit us up here.

1167
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:07,560
Who was where and did you like
where everybody was or was it

1168
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,640
one of those things like is it?
Should this guy really be on

1169
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:16,280
this?
Say that one more time.

1170
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,960
So tell us who was where and is
there anything you disagreed

1171
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,520
with?
Was there anybody when you saw

1172
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,120
them line up at a certain
technique, you were like, should

1173
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:28,600
he really be there right now?
Or were you like, you know what

1174
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,800
makes sense, makes sense, got to
live with it because of what you

1175
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,640
got?
All right.

1176
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,320
So I mean, let's let's do a
rundown of the defensive line

1177
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,120
real quick and kind of where
they were, what they were in and

1178
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,080
things like that.
And then I can talk about what I

1179
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,400
don't really agree with, I
guess.

1180
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:51,320
So primarily what we had
interior 2 I and then you had a

1181
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:57,920
A3 or A4 I opposite that on the
inside kind of that wide 9 or a

1182
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,080
or an angled 7 look from the
defensive ends.

1183
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:06,600
Typically depending on whether
there was a tight end either

1184
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,840
overhang or in line on their
side or not.

1185
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,040
You had Jonkum on one side,
Burgos on the other.

1186
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:17,600
At at the the outside linebacker
positions, Jonkum had his hand

1187
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:22,560
in the dirt about 50% of the
time, maybe not quite that stand

1188
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,400
up the rest of the time.
A lot of times handles in the

1189
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:30,760
dirt on those early downs.
You know, Gilliam and Copeland

1190
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,120
were at the two I in the 3-4 I,
you know, depending on the

1191
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,640
alignment, they're respectively
in the first group.

1192
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,920
You had laws and Nash in the
second group in those same

1193
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,800
spots.
And then the third group was was

1194
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,240
Evans and Priester.
And that's, that's kind of where

1195
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:52,720
I was like, hang on, we got you
got you got Priester at the at

1196
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:57,280
the three and then you got Evans
at the two.

1197
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,720
I was a little shocked to see
that probably Priester was the

1198
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,960
one that impressed me the least
in that group.

1199
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,240
I thought he was really good at
eating up some blocks.

1200
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:13,080
He didn't really shed well.
He wasn't going to be an impact

1201
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,560
player as far as like shoot the
gap or anything like that.

1202
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,160
He's very much a guy that's
going to eat blocks and let

1203
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:23,880
Woodson and Keller guys behind
him feast a little bit, but he's

1204
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,960
not going to really be that
dynamic player that we saw with

1205
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,640
Aeneas Peebles, right?
So don't expect that from

1206
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,360
Priester, at least not this
year.

1207
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,400
Copeland flashed a little bit
more of that.

1208
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,200
Obviously he's he's higher up in
the depth chart, but he flashed

1209
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:43,920
a little bit more of that.
I was, I like seeing Laws mix in

1210
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:45,680
there with Nash.
I think that's going to be a

1211
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:50,640
pretty good combination behind
Gilliam and Copeland and seeing

1212
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:54,400
Evans get that much run, you
know, this early in his career

1213
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,360
was, you know, promising as well
for his future development.

1214
01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,480
Well, Evans, y'all weren't.
Y'all weren't on a couple weeks

1215
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,080
ago.
Evans checked in 62290.

1216
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,560
That's and again, that kid
supposed to be going to prom

1217
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,840
next week, not be that 6290
coming in.

1218
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,160
He's got the chip because
remember, he won the Under

1219
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,920
Armour stuff up in Maryland.
Didn't get bumped at all where

1220
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:23,920
he should have probably been a
four-star and that is what it

1221
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:26,880
is.
But Speaking of defensive line,

1222
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,560
let's let's pivot real quick to
this.

1223
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:30,640
One of the McDonald's twins is
out.

1224
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,160
But today we got a commitment
from Cody Huseman.

1225
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:37,680
Defensive tackle pronunciation
to be determined but.

1226
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,760
You know, that's what I see it
as if anybody's got it put in

1227
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:46,200
ChatGPT and make it happen.
But defensive tackle, I think

1228
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,040
Brian, when, when I, first of
all, Tally got mad and it's

1229
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:54,000
like, I need someone I know
that's the first thing you

1230
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,560
texted Tally.
He got upset about it.

1231
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,760
Tally.
Tally was conflicted because

1232
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,040
Tally's like we finally got a
green box there.

1233
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,600
Shout out Kobe Crawford.
We finally got a green box, but

1234
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:08,520
it's not somebody I know.
I want another neus peoples.

1235
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,200
I know that's going to be hard,
but give me a proven guy.

1236
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,399
That's why I was at at that
time.

1237
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:18,520
You know, I calmed down a little
bit, but I'm still mad like if

1238
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,240
you want to go to the next
level, you got to get some next

1239
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,240
level guys.
This guy going to be a next

1240
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,120
level guy.
And I'm excited about being

1241
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,040
Bale.
You know, I'd like to see the

1242
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,399
I'd like to see the five twins
on the field at the same time.

1243
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:32,439
I know he's well, he's not there
yet, so that'll be good.

1244
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:34,240
You know, they got some good
stuff going.

1245
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,279
Brian brought me back down to
earth a little bit.

1246
01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:39,600
It might have been Curtis.
They have been doing they've

1247
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,479
done they've done pretty good in
the portal.

1248
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,399
So I got to give them a little
bit of leeway.

1249
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,120
You know, a lot of the people
that we brought in through the

1250
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,080
portal, I think somebody even
said it earlier talking about,

1251
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:54,279
you know, we wouldn't have got
APR if we didn't have a portal

1252
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:56,760
at certain times, things like
that.

1253
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:03,680
So, yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm,
I'm excited to see what we can

1254
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,360
do if we go after anybody else
who leaves, who stays, all of

1255
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:08,880
that stuff.
We didn't kicked enough people

1256
01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:09,760
off.
We got some room.

1257
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:12,120
We better go after some people.
Yeah, definitely.

1258
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,800
The big thing I'll say about
him, I like his experience.

1259
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,240
I mean, he played 16 games last
year.

1260
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:22,560
He played a bunch of games the
year before and he red shirted a

1261
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,040
couple years ago and he's like
6-4.

1262
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:29,640
He's like 290.
And I think, Brian, you made the

1263
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,040
point.
I think, I can't remember where

1264
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:35,800
you put it, but you said this is
just good for Priester because

1265
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,320
this gift, Priester, Priester
now does not have to be forced

1266
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:43,040
into action.
Priester can well a his.

1267
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,040
We know his weight in size now.
Well, now it's like let's focus

1268
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,200
on technique with him, which is
good, which is what needs to

1269
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:50,720
happen.
With, and I think his movement

1270
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:54,960
too, like I think if he can get
a little bit more explosive,

1271
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,640
like even if you know, and that
may be sizing down even just a

1272
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:04,120
little bit from where he's at.
But yeah, I think if he can get

1273
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,960
a little bit more explosive from
working in the weight room

1274
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:11,200
doing, doing some conditioning,
things like that, I think he

1275
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:12,760
could really, you know, make
some noise.

1276
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:14,880
But I don't think he's quite
there yet.

1277
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,680
This gives us some flexibility
that really gives us, you know,

1278
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:22,240
at least five, maybe 6 guys if
Evans continues to progress that

1279
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,120
you can kind of rely on in the
middle there.

1280
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,240
Show me anything on him.
I don't know if you looked up

1281
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,880
stats or anything about his play
on PFF.

1282
01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:33,480
Yeah, I just did.
He was.

1283
01:11:33,480 --> 01:11:38,920
So he was the 19th highest
graded FCS interior lineman out

1284
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:40,640
of almost 500.
So it's pretty good.

1285
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:45,120
You guys may recall Arias Nash,
who we also signed a little

1286
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,040
while ago, the the DT from
Mercer.

1287
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,520
He was the number he was #5
highest graded DT.

1288
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:56,360
So, so we got two of the top 20
FCS defensive tackles, which is

1289
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:58,600
pretty good.
I mean, I know it's FCS, but

1290
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,200
like, you know, just reality is
like, you know, when you're a

1291
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,440
program like Vt, you kind of got
to find those, you know, those

1292
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:05,200
smaller school guys like those
Simons in the rough.

1293
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,360
And I think I think the staff
has done a good job of trying to

1294
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:10,240
get those guys that come from
winning programs.

1295
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,240
You know that they kind of know,
you know, just about that.

1296
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,920
They have kind of they have that
work ethic and you know, have to

1297
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,240
kind of punch them with their
way a little bit to get trying

1298
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,120
to get guys like that.
So I think it's AI think it's a

1299
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,000
pretty good pick up.
Sure.

1300
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,880
That's a great point to make is
about the winning program thing

1301
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,520
because Mercer, what, 11 and
three last year made it deep in

1302
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,760
the FCS playoffs.
Obviously, you know, North

1303
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,960
Dakota State is the best of the
FCS and last year I believe that

1304
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,720
they went, they won it last
year, right?

1305
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:40,960
Yep, they won't beat Montana
State.

1306
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:43,560
They beat Montana State, they
were 14 and 2.

1307
01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:46,960
So it's like, you know, they're
good football.

1308
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,120
It it's effectively can they
elevate to come to the highest

1309
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,400
level where everybody's just as
good across from you.

1310
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,600
And I think again, tally, you
mentioned a little bit earlier,

1311
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,080
that's the best thing about the
portal now for these guys

1312
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,480
because these guys would never
they would be looked at.

1313
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:07,120
But now if they come up and they
absolutely ball this year at

1314
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:10,520
Tech, they're going to get
drafted probably.

1315
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,640
You know, you think about like,
like Jay Lane, as good as he was

1316
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,800
at Middle Tennessee, if he
doesn't come to Tech.

1317
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:20,200
Same with Basil too.
They don't get that opportunity.

1318
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:25,960
So I think it's pretty good.
Brian, I know Bell did not play.

1319
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:29,520
I know Burgos, something
happened, but he was looking

1320
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,400
good, did something and they
were like, Nope, you ain't

1321
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,840
playing no more.
You go over here and sit, but

1322
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,440
you're feeling OK.
Between Burgos, Jonkum, Aysen,

1323
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,600
Steven James, Jeanette, Ben
Bell, do you?

1324
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,640
Or, as always, go get an edge
rusher.

1325
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,800
Don't matter.
I mean, throw one more in there.

1326
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:55,520
You couldn't hurt.
I I think, you know, you got

1327
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,240
Bell coming in.
I think you might.

1328
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:01,080
Well, Bell's there.
He he just hurt his shoulder.

1329
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,240
Yeah, but I'm saying as far as
playing.

1330
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,480
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, you know, he's, he's

1331
01:14:05,480 --> 01:14:08,360
going to be somebody that you
can count on, you know, come to

1332
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:13,600
fall.
I'm I'm a little little

1333
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:18,000
concerned if, if we don't have
maybe one more in there, though,

1334
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,880
because I like what I saw from
Ace and I thought Jeanette he

1335
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,000
played a little bit better when
he was kind of having to he was

1336
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,000
in that those those zone blitz
looks.

1337
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:33,840
I I didn't see a ton of rush
from him where where he's going

1338
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:37,520
to be some sort of impact player
from a from an edge perspective.

1339
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,880
I think he could be a solid
player, but I don't I don't

1340
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,200
think he's actually going to be
be a big impact guy.

1341
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,160
You know, so you got three guys
you feel like you can rely on

1342
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:50,680
Burgos, John Cumbell, you got
Ace and Stevens that's coming

1343
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,360
along.
And then you got Jeanette.

1344
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:56,120
That is probably a little more
niche in terms of what he can do

1345
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,840
for you.
So it it wouldn't hurt to get

1346
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:01,520
one more guy in that room that
can kind of mix in with those

1347
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:06,720
guys all.
Right so go go to home 3 or 247

1348
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:08,680
and look it forward and find an
edge for us.

1349
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,520
Y'all cornerback room, last room
I hit.

1350
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:17,360
I mean any from the look of the
defense we're probably running.

1351
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:22,960
I mean we we've got IBM and I
think the way you said knowledge

1352
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:27,000
played, I think it's going to be
tough to keep him from getting a

1353
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,880
red shirt this year.
I think the way you've mentioned

1354
01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:31,760
how he played.
But who else?

1355
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,320
Who else in that room?
You've obviously got Lovis,

1356
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:40,200
Tomic Williams, Josh Spark did
not play there is there's stuff

1357
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,560
saying he he might not be back
for fall.

1358
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,000
We'll have to hear that when we
see it.

1359
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:50,440
But who else got some run and
who else did you like?

1360
01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:55,360
And what about Lovett?
Did is does Lovett look like he

1361
01:15:55,360 --> 01:15:58,680
took that step?
He looks like he took that step.

1362
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,600
I think he's definitely going to
be easy stepped into that dog

1363
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:05,480
role in that room.
I think the big question is, is

1364
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:09,240
there going to be other guys
that can run with him at a

1365
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:13,000
consistent level where, you
know, we don't get into

1366
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,720
situations where if one guy's
down or especially if it is

1367
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:21,040
Lovett where we're, you know,
behind the 8 ball, especially

1368
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,280
for if we're not going to have
Clark, you know, come to fall.

1369
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:28,360
So I liked what I saw from IBM.
He did blow the the double pass

1370
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:31,320
coverage there.
You know, it was a bunch bunch

1371
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:35,160
wheel route from Selden.
As soon as the first pass

1372
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:39,080
happened, he jumped it and, you
know, seldom took off and to the

1373
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:42,600
races and and you know, Braylon
Johnson was on the back end of

1374
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,720
that and didn't really do a good
job of kind of getting over

1375
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:49,720
there from a safety perspective.
Thomas Williams looked pretty

1376
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,120
good and no, no real big notes
there.

1377
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,000
I tell you.
JoJo Krim was probably the

1378
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:03,000
younger guy that probably popped
off a little bit more than I

1379
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,240
expected.
So keep an eye on JoJo Krim.

1380
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,880
Christian Williams got in the
mix as well, Was fine.

1381
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,920
Not nothing impressive, but I'd
say as far as like high ceiling

1382
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,600
guy, JoJo Krim of the younger
guys is going to be the guy to

1383
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,960
keep an eye on.
You heard a lot, heard a lot of

1384
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,320
good stuff about Krim just
coming out of camp and things

1385
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,400
like that.
So man, you got to you got to

1386
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,280
put the got to put the dogs on
the field.

1387
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:30,960
You know, you got to burn some
shirts this year.

1388
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:36,480
You got to put some people in
and you know, put the best, the

1389
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:39,480
best talent that you have on the
field to try to win games.

1390
01:17:39,480 --> 01:17:42,120
So sometime the best talent is
young talent.

1391
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:47,320
All right, y'all real quick,
Andretti say you want to play

1392
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:48,600
games with y'all.
Y'all get that?

1393
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:52,280
Down Andretti's in the house.
Andretti's in the house.

1394
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,120
I think this is another room I
like.

1395
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,760
I think you need one more just
to feel good.

1396
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:04,880
Don't be, don't be, don't be
mean to numbers.

1397
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,160
We're going to talk about the.
Four.

1398
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:08,120
Hey man, we got we got some
weird numbers.

1399
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:09,680
Here we always got weird numbers
there we.

1400
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,720
Got junk of a 66.
I mean, I guess that's fine.

1401
01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:16,880
Got cream at 35.
We don't have it.

1402
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,680
We don't have the the double
fours outside anymore, Tally.

1403
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,560
Good, we don't need them.
Well, we got a 35 somewhere

1404
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,720
running around back there now,
so yeah, that ain't no better.

1405
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,160
He took up he he he took the
mantle.

1406
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:32,960
He took the mantle. 44 is on a.
And at least 35 is a safety

1407
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:33,840
number.
Maybe not.

1408
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,000
Not a that's true.
Not a linebacker number.

1409
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,040
All right.
Obviously, we kind of went

1410
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,920
through it.
We told you where we feel like

1411
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:45,200
we see with the portal and
that's wide open right now.

1412
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,360
Over the next few days, one
commit today, probably a few

1413
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,000
more coming in the next couple
days.

1414
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,120
We'll see how they land.
We'll probably discuss those

1415
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:53,680
transfers and the impacts on
them.

1416
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:58,000
But let's flip over to the big
portal shit that went down over

1417
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:00,440
the last couple weeks.
And that's the Nikko.

1418
01:19:00,440 --> 01:19:04,440
I am a lever situation.
I don't know who wants to start,

1419
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,240
but if anybody would like to
take the mantle and start with

1420
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:14,000
this situation and just give us
your honest to God opinion about

1421
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:17,880
what happened.
Tally this seems like you're

1422
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,040
you're bread and.
Butter and you close to it too,

1423
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:20,560
Tally.
Oh.

1424
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:27,240
Man, I don't know that just the
portal is so crazy How look at

1425
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,920
things though I feel like, and
this is going to sound crazy,

1426
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,040
this is going to sound crazy.
So y'all just hang in there with

1427
01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:38,400
me.
A million dollars, $2,000,000

1428
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,400
whatever the numbers are
$3,000,000.

1429
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,600
Would I love to have it at 39
years old?

1430
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:48,120
Yeah of course.
But what these kids are trying

1431
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:52,080
to do with this NIL $2,000,000
ain't going to be shit.

1432
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:56,760
That's not going to change your
family's life forever like you

1433
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,880
think.
So you're chasing this, in my

1434
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:03,200
opinion, little bit of money
when you can go and make the

1435
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,920
real money.
And these coaches are

1436
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,040
fraternity, man.
I just feel like these kids put

1437
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,200
theirself in bad spots and
families put themselves in bad

1438
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,840
spots by playing that money
game.

1439
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:20,240
And then when it comes down to
doing, you know, NFL ratings and

1440
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,920
NFL interviews and things like
that, what's going to be said in

1441
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,320
them back rooms?
Hey, y'all, you might want to

1442
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,080
stay away from him.
He's going to be, you know, he's

1443
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,280
not loyal.
He's going to play your team for

1444
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:35,640
money, whatever the case may be.
So I just wish people would be

1445
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,160
more careful with things like
that.

1446
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:41,600
And then on the surface of this,
just the surface, not even

1447
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:46,560
thinking that deep into it.
It's like stuff coming out.

1448
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:50,320
He didn't want to play the the
didn't want to play the playoff

1449
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,960
game.
Asking for more money then

1450
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:55,400
wanting more money.
Now.

1451
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:01,360
I probably would rather stick
with Josh Hyper than the UCLAI

1452
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:03,480
don't even know who.
Who is the UCLA coach?

1453
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:07,800
Curtis having to Google it?
He don't.

1454
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,640
He don't fucking know was.
It more or something or?

1455
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:13,680
I think you're.
Right.

1456
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:23,600
All I'm saying is I've seen
Hyper turn some good players

1457
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,480
into NFL players.
I probably would want to stick

1458
01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:31,400
with him and get the real money
because the kid has talent so

1459
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,560
he's going to get itself to the
next level with his talent for

1460
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,480
the most part.
Long as he don't do nothing

1461
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:39,160
stupid and get hurt any of those
things.

1462
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:43,840
I probably would want to stick
out with a coach that I know has

1463
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,920
proven that he can get
quarterbacks to the NFL so I can

1464
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,480
get the real life changing money
and worry about the little money

1465
01:21:50,480 --> 01:21:53,200
that you're getting now because
if your talent can get you

1466
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,040
$2,000,000 in college, what can
he get you in the NFL?

1467
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,960
Look at Cam Ward.
Yep, pretty calm Ward man, Bet

1468
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,360
on the self, you know, put
yourself in the right positions

1469
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:08,280
and probably going to be the
first pick in the draft.

1470
01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:10,960
What kind of money is that?
Like that?

1471
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:15,400
I just wish these kids and this,
these families would go back to

1472
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:17,600
knowing like that's the real
goal.

1473
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:19,320
That's the life changing money
there.

1474
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:24,000
But we're chasing this quick
money and I just feel like that

1475
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,280
quick money is going to have
some stipulations on it.

1476
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,000
Sooner or later they're going to
start putting some stuff on that

1477
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:31,520
well, it's going to hurt some of
these kids.

1478
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,480
And then my real opinion is, is
fucking dumb.

1479
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,400
Stupid.
It was dumb.

1480
01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:40,560
Like this whole situation was
stupid.

1481
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:45,320
She had many any feelings on
this, as you and I, I don't know

1482
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,160
how much you get when Shelton's
working.

1483
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,800
I don't know how much he gets to
read into these situations and

1484
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,160
do all that.
But anything on that?

1485
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,040
No, I read a lot with this.
I, I say this every day because

1486
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,400
it's because I'm, I'm interested
in like the, the politics and

1487
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:01,040
like the, the litigation aspect
of this whole debate.

1488
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,000
You know, that's not the podcast
and stuff.

1489
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,160
I mean, I could go on forever,
but I would say just give, give

1490
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,960
my main thought.
Like I'm a big, I'm a big free

1491
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,560
market guy.
I think that Nico has his rights

1492
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,800
to bargain for what he feels it
might be worth.

1493
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:17,440
I also think Tennessee has every
right to make a financial

1494
01:23:17,440 --> 01:23:20,080
decision in their best interest.
And they decided to do that and

1495
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,840
they moved on.
So to me, this is like the free

1496
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,720
market at work here.
I know it's, you know, turbulent

1497
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,760
time, but I think this is just,
you know, two parties deciding,

1498
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,560
you know, what's best.
And ultimately, Nico, you know,

1499
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,640
screwed himself out of some
money, or so it would seem.

1500
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:38,000
But I mean, that's the bet he
made.

1501
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,840
So, you know, you make in life,
you sometimes make decisions

1502
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:41,960
that don't turn out the way you
want to.

1503
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:43,160
And you just got to learn from
it.

1504
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,000
And, you know, that's his that's
his right as an American.

1505
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:52,720
So I'm not super, you know,
super rattled by, you know, this

1506
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,760
whole saga.
Like I just, I, I think it's the

1507
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,320
free market at work.
And I also think, you know, kind

1508
01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:59,520
of like Joe Platt said, we don't
necessarily know all the full

1509
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,200
details of everything,
everything that transpired in

1510
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,680
the situation or why
specifically Nico wanted to opt

1511
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:08,520
out at this particular time.
So I, I know I don't have too

1512
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:09,680
much judgement on that part of
it.

1513
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,920
But you know, I mean, it's just
part of the, it's part of the,

1514
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,120
it's part of life.
Like you, you, you move jobs

1515
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:16,440
because you think you might get
a better deal.

1516
01:24:16,440 --> 01:24:19,040
Maybe it doesn't work out.
And that's just how, that's just

1517
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,760
how life goes.
So I'm, I'm very much, you know,

1518
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,720
kind of a pragmatist when it
comes to stuff, to stuff.

1519
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,320
Yeah.
And I think when we talk about

1520
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:33,800
pragmatic approaches, if I'm in
a good situation and I'm making

1521
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:39,720
good money, I'm going to have an
offer in my hand before I step

1522
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:42,120
out on that.
That's a pragmatic decision.

1523
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:47,760
And with as much tampering is
already going on, if if you and

1524
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:53,720
your pops in particular weren't
pushing things without getting

1525
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,680
something in writing or getting
getting some sort of, you know,

1526
01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:01,600
handshake deal before you start
rattling cages like that, you

1527
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:06,080
put yourself in a bad situation.
Because now you've got this,

1528
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:12,240
this kid gloves type of
reputation where it's like, all

1529
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,600
right, is this tainted goods?
Is this tainted goods?

1530
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:17,560
Like, you know, he pushed his
way out of this.

1531
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,200
Is this going to be our fate
too?

1532
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:22,960
Like you, I think the, the
biggest problem with what he did

1533
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:29,760
and how he did it was that he
didn't have a plan, a long term

1534
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:34,280
plan when when he started
rattling the cages and I, you

1535
01:25:34,320 --> 01:25:39,080
know, ultimately that landed him
at UCLAA job that Chip Kelly

1536
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:43,840
said a coordinator, program
coordinator role with the

1537
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,640
Raiders was was better than
being the head coach at UCLA.

1538
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,800
So.
Well, Ohio State first.

1539
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,600
Well, Ohio State first, but
yeah.

1540
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:53,200
Ohio State first, Yeah, he's
with the rated now.

1541
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:59,320
To me, it's all about what he
thought he had leverage because

1542
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,760
he said there it's almost in the
spring practice.

1543
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:07,280
I want $2,000,000 more.
Whether they were shopping him

1544
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:09,360
or not, he went to them.
You're going to give me $4

1545
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:16,080
million or Jim real quick, No,
SEC cannot transfer with an SEC.

1546
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:20,000
That is a rule in their bylaws.
They cannot transfer with them.

1547
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:24,240
That's why he went to UCLA.
But to the point goes, he over

1548
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,120
leveraged himself.
He thought they ain't gonna,

1549
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:28,240
they ain't gonna fucking let me
go.

1550
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:29,800
We went to the playoffs last
year.

1551
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:34,560
We were a good team last year
and basically EIPL said Home

1552
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,680
slice.
I've been coaching quarterbacks

1553
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,880
for about 15 years now.
All of my get usually play

1554
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,000
pretty damn good.
You're not worth the extra

1555
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,680
$2,000,000 and he screwed
himself out of money and he's

1556
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,480
probably screwed himself to
Tally's point tally.

1557
01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:53,800
I looked it up.
The first round draft pick Cam

1558
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:58,960
Ward's going to effectively get
$43,000,000 with about 30 of it

1559
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,680
guaranteed.
That's the point Tallies makes

1560
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:05,760
right there. 2,000,000 is
nothing compared to 42.

1561
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:08,600
I'd love $2,000,000 right now in
the tally's point.

1562
01:27:09,160 --> 01:27:15,680
But forty $344,000,000, that's a
that is a that is generational

1563
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:20,120
type of where literally it's not
just your kids, it's your kids,

1564
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:24,680
kids that can keep living off
that, living good, having a

1565
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:29,080
great life.
So to me, he just tried to play

1566
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,920
the game and they would just
like screw you mood.

1567
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:34,160
And that's the other issue with
the college kids.

1568
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,760
To me, there's probably only
about 5 or 6 players, like 5 or

1569
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:42,320
6 players.
Seriously, that can say I want

1570
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,760
an extra $1,000,000 right now or
I'm leaving and schools are

1571
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,720
going to give it to them so I
can and.

1572
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,200
Then another, yeah, another
thing too.

1573
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:54,960
When you talk about, you know,
NRL, 'cause I'm, I'm, I'm on,

1574
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,760
I'm like, I don't want to have
straddling the fence, but like

1575
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:02,880
I, I understand where it comes
from from the organization

1576
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,800
standpoint.
But also like I'm with Shelton,

1577
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:09,040
like I know these young men
deserve to get certain things

1578
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,240
and it's their right to choose
what they want to do.

1579
01:28:12,440 --> 01:28:16,800
But I'm also looking at it from
like my son, you know, now my

1580
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:18,840
son ain't going to get no
fucking NIL like that.

1581
01:28:19,240 --> 01:28:21,640
He ain't going to get nothing if
he'll start hitting the ball.

1582
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:29,560
But what I'm saying is like
thinking about a kid or young

1583
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,680
man getting $2,000,000, right?
Sounds like a lot of money,

1584
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:33,760
right?
They're like, oh, that's a lot

1585
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,760
of money.
They don't deserve it or they do

1586
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,000
deserve it.
Like do you know how many

1587
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:39,600
peoples riding on that 2
million?

1588
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,800
Like me, if I got 2,000,000
right now, I'm worried about

1589
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,960
four people.
I got two kids and my wife.

1590
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,960
I'm worried about four people.
I can make some stuff shake with

1591
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,800
2 million.
These kids have whole families

1592
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,240
depending on them to get them
places and move them across the

1593
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,560
country and bring their little
brothers with them.

1594
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:03,000
So that 2 million between 20
people or however many people,

1595
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:06,040
it's not going very far because
Mama want to call, Daddy want to

1596
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,560
call.
We got to move because they need

1597
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,240
to go to my games and we live in
a, they live across the country,

1598
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,120
so got to buy them a house over
here.

1599
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:15,280
Like it's not the lottery, man.
Like they're not winning the

1600
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:16,840
lottery.
And I think that they just get

1601
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,960
caught up in the hype right
then.

1602
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:21,880
And I just hope they look at
things different.

1603
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:24,560
Like my goat didn't ever play
the NFL.

1604
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:28,000
Jerrod Evans never made it to
the NFLI.

1605
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,040
Know that there's politics in
football.

1606
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,680
So if Jerrod didn't make it, I
feel like a coach can put a word

1607
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,080
in and you won't make it no
matter what your talent is.

1608
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:41,640
So again, I just won't these
families and these young men to

1609
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:46,440
start thinking about it from a
business standpoint more than

1610
01:29:46,440 --> 01:29:49,160
they are thinking about it just
from a money standpoint.

1611
01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:54,160
So yeah, I hope he didn't screw
himself out of money because I

1612
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,920
think the kids talented, you
know, I think he's he's he's I

1613
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,840
think he's got something, you
know, I think he can, you know,

1614
01:29:59,840 --> 01:30:02,960
who knows how high he can go?
But I do know that once you

1615
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,800
start, it's a good old boy
society man.

1616
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,640
When you start playing around in
that and they'll in the weeds,

1617
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:10,800
you know, somebody might get the
more out.

1618
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,960
So we'll see.
There you go.

1619
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,320
All right, well, Speaking of
that, and because it kind of

1620
01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,280
goes into a good segue into the
last thing we're going to talk

1621
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,400
about tonight, the NFL draft is
tomorrow night.

1622
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,840
I know all well, Sheldon, I'm
not sure if you've got a game

1623
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:33,400
tomorrow, but I will be stuck to
the TV probably like, well,

1624
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:37,080
Tally, you get to stay the the
least because Tally's team is

1625
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:39,400
picking first.
I'm my team's picking 11,

1626
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,160
Reinstein's picking 15 and
Shelton's way back at like 30.

1627
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:47,640
But I wanted to just go through
y'all and just hear what you

1628
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:49,880
want your team to do.
And we're going to do it in

1629
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,720
order.
So Tally with the first pick in

1630
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:57,240
the NFL 2025 NFL Draft.
The Tennessee Titans, I mean.

1631
01:30:57,520 --> 01:31:00,800
Cam Ward, They taking Cam Ward?
I mean, we ain't hit on a

1632
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:05,160
quarterback in I think since
like 1997 or something like

1633
01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,440
that.
I don't know, like we've been

1634
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,320
not good at drafting
quarterbacks, but this is going

1635
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,560
to change this year.
I like Cam Ward a lot.

1636
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,800
I think that that's the obvious
pick.

1637
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:18,680
The only other person I thought
they would have picked right

1638
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,440
there would be the generational
talent, Travis Harner.

1639
01:31:22,440 --> 01:31:24,880
But that's not what our team
really needs right now.

1640
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:29,560
So I'm thinking, well, I'm
knowing that we going for Cam

1641
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:33,840
Ward.
So I'm just hoping that we got

1642
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:38,080
the line to block for him
because getting everybody's

1643
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,040
going to judge their young
quarterbacks by what Jayden

1644
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:41,640
Daniels did, right?
True.

1645
01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:43,160
No like that.
That's what you want your

1646
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:45,560
quarterback to come in and do.
Does he do that?

1647
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:47,520
I don't know.
You know I don't, I don't think

1648
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,880
so.
But if he can do a step better

1649
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,920
than we did last year, so we
ain't got the first pick the

1650
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:53,560
year after, I'll be OK with
that.

1651
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:56,480
I hear you by the way, y'all
want to chat?

1652
01:31:56,480 --> 01:32:00,960
I know Josh put in there Denver
drafting to drafting Genetti.

1653
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:03,720
If you got what you think your
team should do, say it.

1654
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:06,440
I'm going to go next.
I'm a 49ers fan.

1655
01:32:06,440 --> 01:32:11,920
If y'all don't know and
everybody thinks like, oh, y'all

1656
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:14,960
need a lot of different stuff
and it's like, no, our defense

1657
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,920
was asked last year, Rockford is
going to get paid probably

1658
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,960
somewhere north of $300 million
very, very soon.

1659
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:24,440
He is.
And everybody's like he was

1660
01:32:24,440 --> 01:32:25,640
asked, y'all couldn't win last
year.

1661
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,920
It won't because of him.
He was like 6 best quarterback

1662
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,480
in the league.
Iuke was hurt, McCaffrey was

1663
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:31,880
hurt.
He still played decent.

1664
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,240
But for us, I'd like to see U.S.
trade back.

1665
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:39,520
But the, the, the truth is, if
you ask me right now who we take

1666
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:44,360
or who I want us to take, I'm
going to take kid out of Ole

1667
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:47,200
Miss.
The D tackle, Walter Nolan, he's

1668
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,240
like 6-3.
He's like 300 lbs.

1669
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:53,560
He is a hell of a run stopper.
He's got some pass rush moves on

1670
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:55,960
the inside and we need to build
that part.

1671
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:01,000
Brian, you're next on the clock.
You know what I mean?

1672
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:05,720
Everything I'm seeing so far,
they've got the Colts really

1673
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:07,560
want to get a tight end.
I definitely feel it's a

1674
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,360
position in need.
And lo and behold, who's

1675
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:16,040
probably going to be there?
Tyler Warren, at least finest.

1676
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:20,720
At least finest.
So I, I, I think that's going to

1677
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,080
be the pick.
I think just as a, as a, as a

1678
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:26,640
Richmond guy, as a, as a
Mechanicsville, as a, as a

1679
01:33:26,640 --> 01:33:30,000
Hanover resident, that that
would be a pretty cool pick for

1680
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:34,520
the Colts.
If, if we end up not going that

1681
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:39,760
route or he's not available, I
think Shamar Stewart, the edge

1682
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:45,240
from Texas A&M would probably be
where I'd go if, if Ty Warren's

1683
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:48,680
not available there.
Shelton.

1684
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,560
It's been a long time coming
since you had a wait.

1685
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:53,960
Sean's going to have to wait up
for the first time in how many

1686
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,880
years for the draft.
Well, what are you?

1687
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,200
What's, what's your, what's your
commanders going to do?

1688
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,240
Yeah, they'll probably be,
they'll probably be defense

1689
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:04,160
focus because that's the way it,
you know, they got improved the

1690
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:08,440
most.
I think probably edge and corner

1691
01:34:08,440 --> 01:34:10,920
will be the biggest priorities.
Maybe wide receiver.

1692
01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:12,360
I've seen a couple of mock
drafts have a second wide

1693
01:34:12,360 --> 01:34:15,520
receiver in the first round.
But as far as it pertains to the

1694
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,600
Hokies, we do have a need for a
more explosive running back.

1695
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,800
And I know that we, we had some
workouts with, with, with

1696
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:24,440
Bashall Tooten.
So it's possible they could go

1697
01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:26,960
out your tune maybe in kind of a
mid round pick 'cause I think it

1698
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:29,240
probably slotted, you know,
third or fourth round.

1699
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:31,960
So it'd be, it'd be great if
that worked out 'cause it's it

1700
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:35,560
fills A-Team need, but I think
it'll be probably more of a a

1701
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:37,960
defensive minded draft for for
the commanders.

1702
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:40,720
All right, no player in
particular right there.

1703
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:44,000
Let me see there.
I know there was what was?

1704
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:47,360
His name?
What's cool I've done.

1705
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,000
I've only done 600 mocks in the
last month.

1706
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,960
Yeah, there was a UCLA defensive
end.

1707
01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:02,640
Linebacker end, end.
Yeah, he's flying out the boards

1708
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:07,160
too, because he went from like
mid second, third round to like

1709
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,480
he might sneak into the back end
of the first round.

1710
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,000
Yeah, who knows?
That's true.

1711
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:14,720
That's true.
That's true.

1712
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,120
They're going to be getting
Malachi Starks is who they're

1713
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:25,440
going to get I How many Hokies
are we all thinking 55 but.

1714
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:29,680
Who's the who's the I got?
I got Peebles APR lane tootin

1715
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:32,040
strong.
Is that that the five peoples?

1716
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:35,600
Tootin, APR Lane, Strong and
Peebles.

1717
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:39,560
Yeah.
Felton might slip in late

1718
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:44,080
seventh round just because 6-4,
but I think 5 that's.

1719
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:45,240
What?
She said.

1720
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:48,720
Boom, All right, I like this
one.

1721
01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:52,880
I'm I'm all started with myself.
If our teams have to take one

1722
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,520
Hokie, who would I want it to
be?

1723
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:58,400
I need it to be Anita's peoples.
I need a three tech that can go

1724
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:02,000
eat because Nolan can play the
one tech I want to me as peoples

1725
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,200
and I think of me as peoples
will be the first one off the

1726
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:07,440
board.
That's my prediction.

1727
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,000
I think in these people's going
to be the first one off the

1728
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:13,320
board about y'all.
You got a feeling?

1729
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:16,400
Tally, tally smiling.
Tally 1 hokey when?

1730
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,520
If you say Tennessee, draft that
man.

1731
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:22,760
We are getting Cam Ward.
Like I said, it's going to be a

1732
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,880
young quarterback and we need
wide receivers because Burke's

1733
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:27,840
can't stay healthy.
Like he going to get hurt again

1734
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,520
this year and I wishing that on
him.

1735
01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:31,920
It just happens.
Give me Jay Lane, man.

1736
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,800
I think Jay Lane's going.
I think he's going to play in

1737
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,880
the league for a long time.
Not saying he's going to be

1738
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:41,880
super, you know, dominant, but
he's a pro man.

1739
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:46,720
He just does his job.
And I think that if we could

1740
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,920
somehow get Jay Lane, I would
definitely have on his jersey.

1741
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,840
It'd be a lot bigger than the 1
he wears because he had a very

1742
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,160
big guy.
But I would get his jersey and

1743
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,720
be wearing it.
So give me give me Lane, man.

1744
01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:00,920
Of course I love Tooting, but
you know, Sheldon already took

1745
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,040
him.
So we'll say Jay Lane.

1746
01:37:03,440 --> 01:37:06,440
Hey, real quick here, there was
somebody, I can't remember who I

1747
01:37:06,440 --> 01:37:08,280
was listening to.
I've listened to a ton of draft

1748
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:12,360
podcast this year.
Unlike normal, somebody said

1749
01:37:12,440 --> 01:37:16,560
they think Jay Lane is the best
punt returner in this draft

1750
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:20,520
straight up.
Which means, again, if he can do

1751
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:22,720
anything on the wide receiver,
he's getting it.

1752
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:26,920
Shelton, how about you?
Yeah, I mean, I just think I

1753
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:29,240
just think dude would make the
most logical sense based on the

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team needs.
Obviously, you know, you, you

1755
01:37:31,480 --> 01:37:33,400
could go Peebles.
I I don't think it makes sense

1756
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:36,680
based on where they're drafting,
but I I think tune would give

1757
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,560
them a really dynamic edge,
especially with all the the

1758
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:41,680
skeleton I've got the threat of
JD running.

1759
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,840
I think that'd be a really
awesome combination to watch.

1760
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:52,320
Very nice, Brian.
I mean, I could see, I know

1761
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:57,400
we're looking at edge and
cornerback probably somewhere

1762
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:04,720
between rounds 1 to 4, right.
So if we don't get an edge in

1763
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,520
the first round, if we, if we're
able to get a tight end, I think

1764
01:38:08,520 --> 01:38:11,800
we, you know, we, we could be in
a, in a spot where APR might

1765
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:14,440
make some sense.
So I I would like to see APR.

1766
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,920
All righty got Jim on here.
You and Jim going to be fighting

1767
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:24,360
for him in the fifth round.
So yeah, And that's tomorrow

1768
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,120
night.
And again, it's always cool to

1769
01:38:26,120 --> 01:38:28,280
see.
I felt like the last few years

1770
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,440
we just hadn't had anybody get
drafted.

1771
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:37,960
So anything else, y'all?
Anybody else jump in the portal

1772
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:39,960
while you've been sitting here
for the last little while?

1773
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:43,600
Not that we know of.
Not that we know of.

1774
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:47,280
It'll all be revealed tomorrow.
Well, with that being said,

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01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,160
let's wrap up this episode of
the Boundary Corner podcast

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01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,200
brought to you by the The Counts
Family Pharmacy in Blacksburg.

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01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,600
I am Curtis Wilson.
Brian Siegler.

1778
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:58,480
Jonathan Talley.
Sheldon Moss.

1779
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:02,560
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1780
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:06,240
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01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:09,240
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01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:13,320
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1784
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,720
but he always is our music man,
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1785
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,240
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01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:27,960
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1787
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,600
We appreciate y'all listening.
Really appreciate y'all in the

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01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,080
chat tonight.
Y'all are funny.

1789
01:39:32,480 --> 01:39:33,680
Y'all are great tonight in the
chat.

1790
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:37,080
Appreciate you guys hanging out
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