Portal Panic

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The.
And welcome back to the Boundary

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Corner podcast, a part of the
College Huddle network along

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with my partners, Brian Siegler,
Jonathan Talley and Shelton

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Moss.
I am Curtis Wilson and this

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episode is brought to you by
Doctor Jeremy Counts down at

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Counts Family Pharmacy, your
friendly neighborhood pharmacy

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located three O 1 S Main St. in
Blacksburg.

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Welcome aboard everybody.
How we doing this wonderful

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Wednesday evening?
Curtis got the hat, he got the

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eggnog.
He's fucking ready for

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Christmas.
So, ready for Christmas?

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I got.
One day of work, I claim I'm

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going to work Monday and when,
which means I'm a log on and

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touch the button for six or
seven hours.

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But I'm it's, I'm ready.
I'm ready for Christmas.

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What about y'all?
Sheldon, how are you feeling

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Ready.
I'm ready, man I'm I, I know

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it's a sign when I'm getting old
that, you know, most of my

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Christmas wish list gifts are
like, you know, household

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appliances and standard basic
electronic devices to help me

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with work.
So kind of takes the joy out of

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it, I guess.
But still excited to see my

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family, Yes.
Got that that that portable

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extra monitor for his laptop on
his list.

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Yes, I did.
Yes, that's exactly right.

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I did.
For my birth, for my birthday, I

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got a food processor and I was
like super happy 'cause I hate

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grade cheese.
So if you make your Mac and

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cheese, I hate grade.
If you got a food processor, it

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definitely helps.
So did did.

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Did you also get?
Do you also have the chopper

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thing for when you do onions and
pepper?

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Chop the chop.
I have the thing for the food

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processor with the top like the
little insert thing for the food

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processor.
You got to have it.

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So I haven't got the insert that
chops the like what you're

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talking about, but you can you
can get one that does it.

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Like Shelton's actually putting
the monitor up right now.

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This is actually.
Yeah, I got AI, got AI, got a

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small crappy one because I got
to watch this UVA Memphis game.

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They're going down to the wire.
Double team, double time.

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Oh hold on y'all, we got a
couple things to unload.

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Something might have just broke
on Twitter.

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Can somebody check that out real
quick?

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Yo say big pick up, who is it
yo?

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I'm trying to get on Twitter
live in living person.

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Let's see who's quicker.
Also him.

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I mean, I saw 247 say comms were
down, but I, I, I haven't seen

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you.
That was like 10 minutes ago.

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Kobe Crawford shout out the man
doing the murder Sherrod Cavill

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has committed.
So there is one.

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Hey, hey.
Just in time, guys, Just in

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time.
My boy Yost broke it for us.

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Yo, thanks man.
Thank you.

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Coming through in a little
holiday meeting, you hadn't had

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the I just sent the the message
that they put, you know, 247 put

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out there about Cosby and down.
So glad that that came through

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right after that, apparently.
Nice.

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And.
Koval has one year eligibility

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and apparently trying to get to.
I know I talked to our buddy Dan

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Pulse over at Teradon.
He said he read because of what

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happened last year with him
getting banged and getting

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injured, he's trying to get an
extra year of eligibility.

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So at least one, there is a
safety spot kind of taken right

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there from a guy that again,
originally we were down to the

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wire form a few years ago.
So that's good stuff.

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I am really glad.
It's like almost in the stars.

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These guys have been seeing
Jekyll and Hyde Curtis in the

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chat the last week.
Ain't got no damn body visiting.

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Can't get a coach, can't get a
transport portal guy.

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I'm up and down.
This makes my night.

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Thank you for making my.
We, we were going to, we were

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going to lament that, you know,
we, we made it this damn far and

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didn't have a commit to talk
about from the portal yet.

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The the damn episode is even
titled Portal Panic.

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Yeah.
Portal panic folks.

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And then we we break 1 live.
We know we plugged in like that.

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See, we usually go on Tuesdays.
We moved it back to Wednesday

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because we knew what was
happening.

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That's how plugged we are
because we got phone calls

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yesterday.
We made some calls.

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Sheldon got it in for us.
We ready to roll.

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So I got some news going on over
here at the Tally household.

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First of all, it's been, it's
been a rough couple of days.

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My wife, you know, she works a
lot and she just so happened be

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off to go to a game and it's on
the other side of town.

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So she picked up about four of
the boys and she was taking them

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to the game.
It's been raining for like 3

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days.
Get them, they get almost there

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like probably 5 miles away from
the gym and they get hit in the

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back.
So her car's jacked up in the

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back right now.
And then the next day we wake up

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in the upstairs bathroom
flooded.

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So, Oh no, that's been some,
that's been some fun stuff going

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on over here at the telly
household.

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But I can say you always got to
have something good that happens

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with something bad.
We got new Internet.

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We got new Internet at the
house.

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I am confident that we ready to
roll.

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Fuck you AT&T, we would Google
Fiber now baby.

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We got in the transfer portal
for Internet and I think we

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going to be doing better now, so
hopefully we don't have no

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glitches.
Hey, hey, if you got the if you

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got fiber, the only thing is
going to be you got you got to

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get the whole home coverage.
If you got that, I think you're

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set because yeah, man, that that
should be.

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Pretty yeah some yeah they added
some stuff that I didn't I don't

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think we had what AT&T it is Oh
yeah we got to put this upstairs

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so you got you know range up
here as well I'm like what the

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fuck they didn't put no range up
here is that why I kept on

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getting kicked off stuff but
anyway it's been working good

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and I'm excited about it so
Sheldon when you talk about

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being older and and and enjoying
things like I got the.

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Internet for Christmas.
So I'm happy, man.

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Shut up, Jerry.
What's up Jerry, Jerry is who I

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need to be talking to about
household appliances.

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If y'all need the know anything,
I don't know if y'all follow

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Jerry on TikTok, you need to
message her and get to TikTok

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cooking home furnishings from
home furnishings, everything.

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She is the plug I'm talking
about.

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Maybe like 2-3 years ago she
sent me a care package of spices

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and when I tell you it was the
bomb.

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Thebomb.com baby.
So shout out to Jerry.

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That's my supposed to.
Shout out, Jerry, All right?

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We got a lot obviously to unload
tonight.

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We're going to be doing a lot of
fun stuff.

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It's not Tuesday, but we're
going to tell the truth about

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things.
Obviously we have missed we

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since y'all last.
We were last here, which was

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before the UVA game.
We've had the signing of the

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class of 25.
We're going to talk about that.

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We're going to talk about the
portal.

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We're going to hit a little bit
on Wit's interview.

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We're going to obviously talk
about coaching changes, a big

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coaching decision yesterday, but
I do want to bring up something

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and I'm going to also, if you
don't mind putting it up there,

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Brian from Steven, because it is
something you do address with

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what happened.
Unfortunately, gay Williams

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father did pass away this week
and right now, you know, I I

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read his post it it it takes me
back.

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I was a very young man when I
lost my father and for him, you

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know, for Pokey Nation, sending
prayers and then thoughts and

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then whatever you can, good
vibes, whatever you may believe

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in, whatever you may not believe
in to Gabe right now because

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obviously through the holidays,
losing a parent, one of those

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tough things.
So Gabe, you were nice enough a

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few years ago to join us live
and interview you.

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Your dad did a hell of a job
with you young man and trust me

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he will be watching down from
you and from just talking to

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you.
I believe whatever you do in

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your life you're going to make
him proud.

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So just you know, keep your
thoughts and prayers out there.

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If y'all have anything to say
gentlemen, y'all feel free.

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No, man, I think you kind of hit
the nail on the head with that,

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man.
You know, that's definitely not

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news that you, you know, want to
have to talk about or, you know,

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you do want to have to address.
But stuff like that happens,

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man.
You never know what somebody's

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mind is, what somebody's, you
know, heart is and well, how

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they're feeling.
So just reaching out and saying,

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you know, I'm thinking about
you, you know, we care about

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you, we love you, whatever the
case may be.

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This is the time for it, man,
because it's right around the

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holiday times.
You lose a a family member in

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that fashion.
And then he's also dealing with

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an injury, like you said, that
young man is, you know, we've

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talked to him multiple times.
He's been nothing but

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respectful.
And again, like you said,

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Curtis, just I think whatever
Gabe, if you if you watching,

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when you see this man, I think
whatever you do, like, first of

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all, hope your nation's got your
back and you going to make your

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family proud man.
So we definitely sending prayers

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up for the Williams family at
this time.

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Yeah, obviously in in this
situation, you nobody wants to

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to to be in this situation.
And obviously already the the

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the mentals of recovering from
an injury while you, you know,

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are, are mourning the death of
of your father.

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That's got to be just a a whole
lot on him right now.

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So anybody that can reach out
and just, you know, let him know

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that that they're behind him,
that they're thinking of him.

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Anything like that can can lift,
lift his spirit.

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So, you know, do that in the in
this moment.

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And you know, like, like, like
you said, Tally, like you said,

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Curtis Hokie nations got your
back and, and, and we're riding

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with you through this regardless
of, you know, what the future

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holds for you.
Absolutely.

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All right, so let's now turn it
over to some more fun stuff,

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some more football related
stuff.

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And this started on Monday, I
believe, when there was a rumor

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that Michael Vick was interested
in potentially taking the

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Sacramento State job, which is
way out in California, or the

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Norfolk State job right down the
street from where he grew up

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down in the Tidewater and
announced yesterday.

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Mike Vick is now officially the
head coach of the Norfolk State

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Spartans.
First of all, I, I know I texted

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Dwight last night and said
because that's his cousin,

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that's his family.
That's a big step.

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It's a big thing for Michael
from where he was, you know, 15

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years ago, 16 years ago.
What do y'all, what do y'all

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think about it?
I mean, I know we all probably

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have some thoughts.
Anybody want to kick it off

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here?
I think it's incredible, man.

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I will let Tally ride first.
I know he's got a lot to say on

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this so.
I was just going to say, man, I

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mean, you hear so much stuff
about, you know, what somebody

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wants to do with the law.
He don't want to do this or he

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wants to do this or, you know,
do you have people say what?

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You get Michael Vick to be the
quarterback culture.

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We should get, you know, Michael
Vick to be the OC And some

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people say he don't want to
coach.

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He's making this money doing
this.

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And you never know, you know,
you never know what somebody

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wants to do or what's on their
mind to do.

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But now we know that he wants to
coach.

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So again, I met, I met, met Mike
in person.

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And it was 10 minutes of just me
and him having a conversation at

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a Cracker Barrel here in
Huntsville, AL.

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And he made me want to run
through a wall.

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So I know when he gets in front
of 17/18/19 year olds, just

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having a, you know, getting them
prepared for a game and just

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talking about his life and
things he's went through.

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And he's from that area, you
know what I'm saying?

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He's he's him being from there
connecting with those kids and

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say, hey, whatever you're going
through.

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I went through this stuff and I
made it to this level, which was

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the highest level #1 draft pick,
you know, did everything just

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about that he could do with his
football career.

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I think it's going to be
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him and the families and the,
and the kids that he'll be able

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to touch.
And I'm excited to see who he,

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where he goes from there, you
know what I'm saying?

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Because you never know.
And sometimes, you know, for

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black men in coaching, you just
got to get a start, you know

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what I'm saying?
Like for whatever Dionne is, you

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know, and I'm not trying to make
it black and white, but I'm just

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saying sometimes there are
politics that are involved and

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you just got to get a start.
Like everybody knew who Dionne

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was.
And I feel some type of way

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about Dionne, the things he says
or things he does.

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But I got to give Dionne his
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He went to Jackson State and he
did, for the most part, what he

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said he was going to do.
He got Travis Hunter for the

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most part where he said he was
going to get him as well as

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other players that he's coached.
So Dion got his start similar

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to, you know, kind of what what,
what Victoria's doing.

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So I'm excited to see where it
takes him, man.

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I mean, I hope it, I hope it
crosses paths with Vt because,

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man, we've used him for so much
for 30 years or however long

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it's been.
Well, he gets to use his own

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name a little bit now.
I mean, he's still forever going

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to be a part of Virginia Tech,
but I mean, like, we can't call

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him up to come to a game and
say, hey, we're honoring Michael

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Vick today and he's going to be
there because guess what?

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He's going to be playing in his
own games.

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I mean, he's going to be
coaching his own games.

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So we got to find a way to
incorporate that into what we're

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doing.
But it's not about Virginia

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Tech.
It's about him going to that

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school and and leaving his mark.
So kudos to Mike Vick and the

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Victoria family.
Yeah, I'm excited for him.

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I think this is a good
opportunity for for him to

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really, you know, get get a good
start in, in college football.

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And it sounds like, you know,
he's been wanting to pursue this

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for a while.
I know there was some

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flirtations, you know, with some
smaller pro leagues and things

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like that.
So it's good to see him, you

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know, get his foot in the door
with, with college football

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here, doing it in his own
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That's always, that's always got
to be something fun that you can

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talk about.
And I, I think it's going to be

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a good foundation for him to
build off of.

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And I know Tally, you made the,
the Dion comparison.

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It's hard not to write.
I mean, you talk about, you

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know, players that their brand
and the juice that they bring

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kind of follows them where they
go, right?

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It's like, I mean, there's
probably 2nd and none Dion, but

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the, the, the Victoria aura is
still, is still nothing to

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sneeze at, you know,
comparatively.

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And, and that alone, I think is
going to be something that's

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going to have people interested
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So I'm excited to see what,
what, what comes from that.

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I'm excited to see what that
staff build out.

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Looks like.
Sounds like Dwight's going to

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have a, a piece in that.
What piece that is will remains

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to be seen, but that's exciting
for, for him as well.

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And, you know, just the, the
whole circle there.

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And I'm, I'm really excited to
see what they do with that.

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Yeah, I think, I think it's I
think it's a good hire.

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Obviously Norfolk State's a
program that's, you know,

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struggled for some time.
And I think, you know, a lot of

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times at that level, you know,
it's it's worth taking a chance

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on a guy who, you know, could
potentially bring some

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recruiting prowess to that to
that school, especially being,

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you know, in the MIAC where, you
know, it's really just about,

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you know, getting the players
and and, you know, trying to put

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them in a system where they can
succeed relative to their

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competitions.
So, you know, coaching on HBCU

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is a great fit and I think, you
know, I obviously don't know

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what's going on in his head, but
I feel like if he, you know, can

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can string something together
and, you know, have some success

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here, maybe something down the
road popping up even bigger.

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So obviously just take it one
day at a time.

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But I think it's I think it's a
great opportunity for for both

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parties here.
Agreed.

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It's a it's a great opportunity
for both parties.

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It's a great opportunity for
Mike again, from where he was

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and everything that happened
years ago and how he got back in

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the league, turn things around
his media career again.

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Brian, you mentioned doing some
consulting with some of the some

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of the spring ball leagues and
now this.

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So great for my again, big
congratulations to him.

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Can't wait to see what it holds
down there for him, what the

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staff looks like.
So that's going to be pretty

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sweet.
Like Speaking of Staffs, it took

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long enough, damn it for them,
but staff changes did take place

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last week.
Curtis does not have to throw

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things this week.
Everybody, it was, it was, it

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was going to get ugly if, if, if
these didn't.

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Happen.
Oh, it was going to be real ugly

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if none has been announced by
the time we went this week.

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So anyway, obviously defensive
coordinator Chris Maher out

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offensive line coach, Ron Crooks
out strength and conditioning

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coach to white ball.
Out.

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So let's kind of go back around.
I'm going to start with Shelton

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on this one.
Shelton, just your reactions,

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your feelings when it was
announced, did they, do you feel

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like the right guys
unfortunately met their end?

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Yeah, I do think it was the
right decision.

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I was very surprised to see Mark
go just because I felt like

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pride would kind of, you know,
put his loyalty to him above

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above the team.
But he didn't and and credit

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surprise prove me wrong.
So I wrote about this for the

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key play, mostly focusing on the
offensive line this week and and

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talking about the issue with
Crook.

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It seemed like from what Price
said in his press conference, he

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was more frustrated with the
relationships and recruiting

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aspect of Crook's tenure here.
You know, they just did not

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recruit the bodies they needed
to in the offensive line.

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I think there were some things
that were mishandled earlier on

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in Price tenure that kind of
hurt them there.

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But the last two seasons they
just have not been able to land

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guys.
And I know there's they've sent

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out some offers.
But you're looking at 7 O Lyman

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recruited in the last two cycles
combined, and that includes the

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portal as well, which is just
inexcusable given, you know, how

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many bodies they need and
they're already, you know,

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losing guys left and right on
the current offensive line.

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So I think that change kind of
had to happen.

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Development didn't seem to be
great either with Marv.

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I mean, it was kind of a it was
kind of a weird situation where

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like the defensive stats were
pretty good, but it was somewhat

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of a mirage just because tech
faced so many backup

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quarterbacks the entire season,
like all their wins where it

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gets backup quarterbacks and all
their losses were to, you know,

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decent starting quarterbacks.
So you kind of have to take that

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with a little bit of a grain of
assault.

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You know, obviously you had, you
know, bad situational football.

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The lake game collapses.
You know, clearly that's part

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partly on triggering the
conditioning.

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I think, you know, maybe a
little bit more than we thought

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just because, you know, if you,
you know, you can kind of see

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teams wear down late in games.
Tech gave up two touchdowns in

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their two overtime losses to
Syracuse and Vanderbilt.

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And I think there was a combined
6 plays in those two losses.

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So they were clearly just
completely uncompetitive late in

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games.
So, so yeah, I mean, it just had

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to happen.
There's probably, probably one,

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maybe two more staffers that
would have liked to see maybe

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move on, but, you know, probably
made the right decision for the

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program.
So we'll we'll leave it be for

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now.
Curtis, you're muted if you're

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talking.
Yeah.

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Saying tally your turn.
Oh, OK.

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Oh man, where to start?
Fucking fire them all.

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Everybody can go.
That's how I felt.

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You know what I'm saying?
Get rid of everybody you've

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been.
You've been putting that.

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Opinion for a month now.
Everybody can go where I could

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go to if he they, we knew he
wasn't going to get fired

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because it just, you know, that
ain't in the cards.

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But I don't know.
It was kind of like, Shelton

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said with with the online
recruiting, it was like, man,

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you just can't, you can't win
like that.

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You cannot not recruit the
online or get anybody in the

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portal or I don't know what we
was doing.

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You know, we sitting on our
hands and we don't have enough

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bodies to rotate in and you
rotate in or keep people in that

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probably don't need to be in.
Long story short, I was OK with

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the, you know, it, it is what it
is on that.

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I was happy that the online
coach was gone.

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I hated that we went through so
many online coaches, you know,

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in, in the amount of years that
we have.

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But you got to keep going till
you get the right one.

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I guess that's the that's the
main thing.

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And then I don't know, man, I'm
just, I'm still, I'm waiting on

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the defensive side of the
defensive coordinator job to see

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what happens or what they bring
in because I don't know, man.

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I, I'm frustrated about it.
And I don't know where they're

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going to go with that because
I'm thinking like, OK, if you

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get rid of your defensive
coordinator, but you not getting

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rid of any other defensive guys,
what coordinator is going to

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come in and just be like, OK,
I'm just going to coach with

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what you have.
Most coordinators are going to

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say, I need to bring some people
with me.

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I need to bring my whoever D
line coach, I need to bring my

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cornerbacks coach.
So it's probably going to be

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like, OK, I'm going to give you
full range to the defense

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because this is where we were
struggling at and I need you to

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come in and fix it.
Or is he going to say, oh, well,

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no, you have to coach with my
guys because I'm loyal to them.

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You know, I feel like it was a
scapegoat kind of just to get

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rid of the defensive coordinator
at this point until I see what

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happens next.
But what I think is going to

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happen is they're going to go,
hey, we're going to do this and

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it's going to be some kind of
intern hire thing or I'm going

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to be pissed about that.
So I'd like to see what they do

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next before I can really, really
judge how I feel about it.

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I can, I can tell you that I can
already judge strength and

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conditioning.
Coach, get the fuck out.

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You can go.
When I seen who was it was it

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was it Clemson?
They stiff armed, they stiff

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armed Kelly Lawson and he
started running like a a

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werewolf on this, like who was
that?

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It was somebody.
Anyway, I was like, man, he too,

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he, he, he looks too good to be
not making those tackles.

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We ain't getting people to the
ground.

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You know, I think, Shelton said.
And I know I'm rambling a little

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bit, but I know Shelton keeps up
with a lot of stats for me and

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he talked about how unlucky
Auburn was as a team.

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I think we was pretty unfucking
lucky.

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Like if you get Cam Ward on the
ground, then the game's over.

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We missed that tackle, they're
catching balls on their back.

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We wrap up, we have the perfect
play call when we send the blitz

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against Clemson and we get to
the quarterback and next thing

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you know, he escapes and throws
it above his head and they get a

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touchdown from that.
So stuff like that, man, I don't

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know.
So I, I liked Marv.

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I didn't like Marv for certain
reasons.

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I did like him for other
reasons.

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I'm not saying I'm against the
the the firing, but I need to

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see what they do next.
Then I'll come on here and I'll

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really go off and I hope and,
and, and I'm going to say this

443
00:25:29,120 --> 00:25:30,840
too.
I hope they go out and get a

444
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,760
online coach, give me some fresh
blood.

445
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,880
I don't want to hear this.
Davis is going to be the

446
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,360
offensive line.
People love him and he's so

447
00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:40,480
great.
If you've been in the damn

448
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,200
building and you ain't been able
to fix it.

449
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,000
Then you ain't the guy.
You ain't.

450
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:45,560
The guy.
So you ain't the guy.

451
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:50,760
Thank you Charlie, you can help.
You can help, but you can't be

452
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:55,800
the guy, so I'm done now.
The only, the only internal hire

453
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,080
that I'm good with is promoting
Jarrett Ferguson, the strength

454
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,080
and conditioning coach.
And that's because Jarrett

455
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:08,680
Ferguson had the same position
under Gentry that he had under

456
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:15,000
Gault.
So to me, he has the the

457
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,760
pedigree to take over this
position and run it in a in a

458
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,480
fashion that we know has been
successful at Virginia Tech.

459
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,240
And it's probably also the
position that if, if from an

460
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,480
assistant standpoint, if you're
talking about promoting an

461
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:37,960
assistant probably has the least
to to least input on how the

462
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,600
overall program is run relative
to Co offensive line coach or

463
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,360
whatever.
But so he so to me, he is the

464
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:47,400
best.
If you're going to look at an

465
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,040
internal hire, he's the only one
that I'll be OK with.

466
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,440
We if we go internal at any
other position, I will be

467
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,840
pissed.
So I'm starting, I'm starting at

468
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,440
the end and we're working
backwards here.

469
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,840
So that that that's what I don't
want to see.

470
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,600
I thought we got rid of the
people we need to get rid of.

471
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,440
We, you know, we, I think we had
highlighted problems that this

472
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,040
team had as, as things were,
were, were coming down the

473
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,200
stretch.
We didn't block well,

474
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,920
particularly in pass protection.
We didn't close out games well.

475
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,800
We had rough third quarters on
defense.

476
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,000
So basically the entire
second-half was, was kind of a

477
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,600
joke from a defensive
standpoint.

478
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,200
You know, looking big picture,
obviously game by game things

479
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,440
were different, but looking big
picture, third, third quarters

480
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,720
were awful.
Ends of games, especially the

481
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,160
last two minutes were awful from
a defensive standpoint.

482
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,560
So that that's kind of in Marv's
corner and a combination of that

483
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,560
with with Galt as well with the
conditioning piece.

484
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,760
And then you look at, you know,
Crook, obviously I think

485
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,480
performance wise, yeah, we, we
talked about pass pro, but also

486
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,880
if, if you're not able to get
the guys in, you're not able to

487
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,280
build a relationship that you
need to, to put all the pieces

488
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,680
together for an offensive line
that is consistently competitive

489
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,760
in the ACC.
It it's, it's tough to make the

490
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,600
case for that that person to
stay on board.

491
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,720
You know, we, we, we always
identified pass pro as a big

492
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,120
problem for this offensive line.
But obviously if you're not

493
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,360
bringing in guys that are
raising that level, that are

494
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:25,120
pushing those guys out of
starting positions, that's a

495
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:29,800
problem as well.
So I, I, I'm with coach Prow on

496
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,040
his ultimate reasoning for, for
moving on from Crook and Marv

497
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,400
and Gault here, because I think
those are the three areas that

498
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,040
will probably give us the best
bang for our buck in terms of

499
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,840
improvement if we're looking to
to roll in some new coaches next

500
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,080
year.
Now what I think is interesting

501
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:52,840
is what Tally said here of I
think if the the DC you hire is

502
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,640
probably at least going to want
to bring in one guy with him.

503
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,360
Yeah.
So if if we're looking at one

504
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:06,440
guy, maybe 2, and we're looking
at the current construction of

505
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,720
the defensive coaching staff, I
think you can still identify two

506
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:16,440
people potentially on that staff
that would take lesser roles

507
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,320
while still being a part of
Virginia Tech's coaching staff.

508
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,560
I think that's Pearson Prelo.
I think that is Sean Quinn.

509
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:30,080
So you know, you're looking at
those two potential.

510
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:33,960
What what I would see is, is
basically if we're looking at

511
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,880
ADC, we're looking at ADC that
is coaching safeties and or

512
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:45,120
linebackers.
Yep, I agree with that.

513
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,160
All right, I'm on real quick
what Brian said.

514
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,720
If there is an internal hire and
chill, I'm going to pitch this

515
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,240
to you in just a second.
So hold pipe with internal hires

516
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,160
because you're the only one that
didn't kind of voice.

517
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,400
Ferguson would be the only one
I'd be OK with.

518
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,840
If they hire Brett Davis, you
will see a mad motherfucker in

519
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:07,720
about 10 days on liquor because
it's what me and Tally just

520
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,080
said.
He's been here already.

521
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,640
To me, the only reason he's
staying here is they had a fire

522
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,520
crook.
I think he's out the door

523
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,320
because I don't think you do
that.

524
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,280
Because that juju, it kind of
gives off like this motherfucker

525
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,480
has been here for the last two
years.

526
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,640
He has been teaching.
He has been doing the same stuff

527
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,320
Ron's been doing.
He didn't do a good enough job.

528
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,880
Why you just going to give him
the keys?

529
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,160
Don't do that.
But obviously, I think more So

530
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,680
what Ron, where it probably made
us a little more angry.

531
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,480
Is it took and shown?
You can probably give the exact

532
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,880
data points.
It felt like it took six games

533
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,760
for some of the younger guys to
start getting more snaps, more

534
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,840
snaps.
It seemed like he was afraid of

535
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,440
change.
Y'all know the one guy we know

536
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,480
we felt like should have been
benched the entire year, but

537
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,320
it's like he was afraid of
change.

538
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,560
And in this situation, as we
always talk about practice

539
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:09,400
versus field, some guys are
great in practice, some guys

540
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,520
look like shit in practice, but
you put them on the field, and

541
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,880
this is regardless of type of
sport, you put them on the

542
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:22,320
field, everything turns to aces.
It's like he always made that

543
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,560
misstep in in practice.
I wonder why because he's not a

544
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,480
practice player.
He needs to be in in live game

545
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:34,120
action and I think that's what
eventually did Ron Crooks in for

546
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,120
Chris Marv Shelton.
I know you probably dove even

547
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,480
deeper into it, but I saw the
Doug Bowman thing from 247 about

548
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,120
the first half, second-half
differences.

549
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,120
To me, what it show with Chris
Marv is Chris kid.

550
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,560
We say what we want to say in
most situations this year he

551
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,560
could create a really good game
plan to begin with, really good

552
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,960
game plan to begin with his
adjustments he could not adjust.

553
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,040
He did not know how to do that
on the fly.

554
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,320
Unfortunately for him, he was a
first time defensive

555
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,640
coordinator.
He did not have anyone really

556
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,520
with a lot of seasoning note as
a Co DC like like somebody like

557
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,640
a Bob shoot to say, hey, what do
we need to do here, coach?

558
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:19,600
Talk me through it.
And that's my big thing with

559
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,120
Chris.
It was the first second-half

560
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,400
differences.
They cannot do any sort of

561
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,040
internal hiring for the DC.
They cannot do an internal hire

562
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,000
for the AOL.
I mean, I don't even know who

563
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,800
you would hire internally for.
You couldn't, You couldn't.

564
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,200
But you never know we've.
Seen crazy issues if you let no

565
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,800
if you let Twitter tell it
process.

566
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,160
Just do what the Vanderbilt
coach does and he but he said

567
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,120
that motherfucker is 6 and 6
too.

568
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,640
He beat some teams, but still 6
won six games.

569
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,920
Here's the piece.
He already, he already ruled

570
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,680
that out.
He said that at the presser.

571
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,880
And I want to say one other
thing.

572
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,720
If y'all want to talk about the
news conference, we can.

573
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,120
I'm going to put you to Sheldon
in just a second.

574
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,200
That might have been the nicest
throwing people under the bus

575
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,480
I've ever seen because he threw
he she, he showed their flaws.

576
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,240
He was very cordial about it,
but he threw all of them under

577
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,720
the bus basically saying we
weren't good enough here, We

578
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,400
weren't good enough here, we
weren't good enough here.

579
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,720
And you knew like, Yep, that was
Chris Mall.

580
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,560
Oh, that was wrong for Sheldon
real quick.

581
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,240
In house hires.
Are you OK with any in house

582
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,000
hires?
Would you be pissed?

583
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,240
Would you fly off like I would?
I mean, I, I tend to be case by

584
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,440
case basis.
I guess the one the one

585
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,960
potential would be Brent Davis,
who knows very well respected.

586
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,280
I don't know.
I mean, I I definitely for

587
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,000
strength and conditioning.
I would definitely like to see

588
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,440
them go go outside the house and
get some a little bit more, you

589
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,320
know, proven.
I think, you know, over the last

590
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,880
couple years, prize really
stocked up his staff with lots

591
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,480
of BT guys, you know, alums,
Hokies, you know, guys he's

592
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,200
friends with, you know,
essentially people that he has

593
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,320
connections with.
And I'm not saying there's

594
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,720
nothing inherently wrong with
that, but I think there is a

595
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,920
balance between like, you know,
going to the field that you're

596
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,719
comfortable with versus actually
going out and expanding your,

597
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,080
your horizon and kind of
getting, you know, some, some

598
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,400
big time higher.
So I personally would probably

599
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,719
learn more towards, you know,
going, going outside the house

600
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,120
and trying to get someone big
time.

601
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,000
I mean, cause they've got,
they've got decent money.

602
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,000
I mean, you know, Marva's making
a top, you know, 3540 salary.

603
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,840
So I mean, they, they've got
some money to spend.

604
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,960
And I, I, I just prefer to, you
know, if, if you can't, if you

605
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,239
can't have success with, you
know, your, your current staff,

606
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,080
the guys you're comfortable
with.

607
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,560
And why not, you know, get
outside your comfort zone a

608
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,199
little bit and kind of expand
your boundaries, I guess.

609
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,800
All right, so let's let's go
with this next targets anywhere

610
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,159
y'all read anyone y'all like I
don't care the position.

611
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,880
I'll flip it over to Brian.
Is there anybody out there,

612
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,520
Brian, that again, we're not
there yet.

613
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,040
A lot of people are pissed, by
the way.

614
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:04,240
A lot of people are pissed.
We just done phone interviews.

615
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:07,240
Isn't stupid.
That means they're probably

616
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:10,560
trying to hire from good teams,
right?

617
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,280
Teams that made bowls, maybe
teams that made playoffs.

618
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,000
People, get your head out of
your asses, OK.

619
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,160
And if you're actually falling
for that, like how stupid, How

620
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,520
far behind are we?
Like no, if you're at this point

621
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,480
and you're hiring, it's either
teams that are playing playoffs

622
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,320
or involved, which means they're
decent fucking teams.

623
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,920
Oh.
You want me to talk now?

624
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,880
Sorry, man, I told you that
pissed me off because people

625
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,320
don't know how anything works,
people.

626
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,360
People think it's a people think
it's a video game and you can

627
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,640
just click and hire the coach.
That's how you do hey?

628
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,920
I'm, I'm with you, man.
All right, I'm, I'm gonna

629
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,240
approach this from from 2 levels
and I've said this privately.

630
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,360
I'll said this publicly, I'll
say it on here and it's probably

631
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,200
going to ruffle some feathers
and that's OK.

632
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,160
Go.
For.

633
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,280
It two guys that I would like
see to see attached to the

634
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,600
offensive line coach hire would
be Matt Moore and Marcus

635
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,480
Johnson.
One name I.

636
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,240
We know you love Marcus.
One name I do not want to see

637
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,440
attached to it is Todd
Washington.

638
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,760
And I will elaborate by saying
I've got nothing against Ty

639
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,120
Washington as a coach, but give
me somebody that's had to

640
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,600
recruit in college football with
his own unit in the last 15

641
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,480
years.
If if, if the relationship piece

642
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,800
and the recruiting piece are
what you've identified as Ron

643
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,360
Crooks deficiencies outside of
vibes.

644
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,560
I don't know what Washington
brings to the table that would

645
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,960
improve that.
Can you recruit?

646
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,800
Can you recruit worse than than
Ron Crook though?

647
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,480
We don't know.
That's the problem.

648
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,800
I want a damn slam dunk tally.
Give me a slam dunk take.

649
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,680
Take the layup better.
Than Ron Crook.

650
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,840
Did take the layup though.
Man, I don't, I don't.

651
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,320
I don't want a what if or could
could happen.

652
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,360
Give me somebody that's done it.
So you said Marcus what?

653
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,080
Marcus Johnson, right?
Yeah.

654
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,760
Where is he at right now?
Most recently at Purdue.

655
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,120
OK, Purdue just got rid of the
coach, right?

656
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,400
Yes, he did.
So that means he may be he

657
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,960
should be looking for a job.
So that's I mean, that's I've

658
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,400
looked at him a little bit and
not that makes sense.

659
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,040
That's a that would be a good
hire.

660
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,280
I think he would be a a good.
Hire a similar situation.

661
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,120
Yeah, I have to do a little bit
of, I have to do a little bit of

662
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,120
research on him.
I I haven't looked at him that

663
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,760
much, but I did look up.
I'm going.

664
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,800
To say this real quick, Zach
Frazier with the Steelers the

665
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,560
highest taking center.
He tooted him for three years.

666
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,040
OK.
That motherfucker that I, I

667
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,320
wanted him on my team and we
didn't draft him.

668
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,320
Right.
So I don't know, man.

669
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,440
It's just, I don't, I don't, I
don't.

670
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,720
I mean, the only name that I
really thought about is, is the

671
00:37:59,720 --> 00:38:03,360
name that that Brian kind of
threw out for the old line was

672
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,560
Marcus Johnson.
I didn't know exactly what his

673
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,080
situation was right now, but I
would, I think that would be a

674
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,560
good hire if we could pull that
off.

675
00:38:13,240 --> 00:38:15,520
But man, I'm just, I don't have
no confidence.

676
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,360
I don't have no confidence that
when you say can we go get a

677
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:26,240
slam dunk, I mean, like Chris
just said, and and our as Joe

678
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,960
Rudolph was a slam dunk, right?
So why didn't it work out?

679
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,080
So if we got these guys that are
high level that we should think

680
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,960
as a slam dunk, are they not
want to work under Pride because

681
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,640
Pride's not being successful?
Or do they not want to be in

682
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,880
Blacksburg because it's not the
place for the I don't know, man.

683
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,240
I kind of feel like it's a
specialized place to be and a

684
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,960
specialized job.
Yeah, it's probably can have a

685
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,960
little bit of money there.
It's going to be involved, of

686
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:00,440
course, but I just I'm more
concerned about what the head,

687
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,800
what the top is doing more than
like those pieces and things

688
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,160
like that.
Of course I'll be pissed if we

689
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,200
do some internal stuff, but I
need to see.

690
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,080
I'm glad probably threw some
people on the bus.

691
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,360
I mean, I was hoping that he
would do like they did on

692
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:21,080
Jeepers Creepers and and keep on
going backwards and coming and

693
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,880
running over them again.
If you ain't never seen Jeepers

694
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,280
Creepers, go watch it when they
ran his ass over.

695
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,840
That's what I want him to do to
coaches because if it's me or

696
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,480
you on the line, it's going to
be you.

697
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,960
I'm going to throw you under the
bus so I can save myself.

698
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,600
And then I'm going to come back
and I'm going to correct what

699
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,880
I've done wrong so I can do
better.

700
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,920
Because at the end of the day,
when we look at that record, the

701
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,840
record is the head coaches
record.

702
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,160
When we talk about close games,
they ain't going to say he is

703
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,280
this in this in close games.
When Kris Marv is his DC,

704
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,720
they're going to say that is
him.

705
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,000
So he's he has to do some things
different.

706
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,160
When we talk about crook not
playing people until certain

707
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,880
games, I feel like we did that
all over the defense and

708
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,840
offense.
So I don't know, man, I'm just

709
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,320
not saying I'm disinterested.
I just I really need to see what

710
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,960
what they want to roll out next.
I know it's not man, I'm just a

711
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,160
fan, but I really want to see
what they roll out next because.

712
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,360
Yeah, I don't have no confidence
in in what we're doing in

713
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,280
Blacksburg right now.
They've got to earn it back.

714
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,960
All right.
So can I address this a little

715
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,240
bit real quick because Tally,
you got to talk about it.

716
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,400
Chris obviously put it in there
and obviously Pete kind of

717
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,360
followed up here.
I'm not solely on the I think

718
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,080
long term Joe Rudolph would have
paid off situation, but what I

719
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:51,080
do think is that Joe Rudolph
prior to Virginia Tech was at

720
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,800
places that historically
offensive lineman want to play

721
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,320
at before he got here where he
is now.

722
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,640
Offensive lineman want to play
at Wisconsin, offensive lineman

723
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:07,240
want to play at Notre Dame.
It it it kind of recruits itself

724
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:11,000
to a point he does a very good
job of taking talented players

725
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,760
and and making them into great
players.

726
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,560
I don't know how good he is at
taking mid and turning it into

727
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,400
good and I don't know if we
would have seen a higher ceiling

728
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,480
with that.
But what I what I do think is

729
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,840
that if you get good in the
building, you don't have to be

730
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,560
great developing.
You just need to be pretty darn

731
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,160
good.
And what we've seen is that

732
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,840
Marcus Johnson can recruit
offensive lineman at a high

733
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,960
level and doing it at schools
that aren't necessarily

734
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,800
historically juggernauts from an
offensive line standpoint.

735
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,320
You know, Missouri, Mississippi
State, he was there at Duke for

736
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,200
a bit.
So I mean, there's there's a

737
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,480
history here where he can
recruit talented players

738
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,280
regardless of the school's
caliber and his history in a, in

739
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,400
a from an offensive line play
perspective.

740
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,320
So that gives me a little bit of
of hope that it will translate

741
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,760
to a Virginia Tech.
So that's my piece there.

742
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,680
And so kind of, you know,
refuting a little bit of the Joe

743
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,400
Rudolph there, but not
necessarily under playing that,

744
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,640
you know, Rudolph wasn't a
talented coach because he is.

745
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,200
What about you, Shelton?
Anything floating you heard?

746
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,920
Or any coordinator?
Yeah, I was.

747
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,880
Got some here.
I was going to say on the

748
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,360
Rudolph thing again, I talked
about this in Miracle this week,

749
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:35,000
but you cannot question
Rudolph's coaching ability, but

750
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,360
I think it was a short sighted
hire.

751
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,840
I just I just don't think he was
ever going to stay here for more

752
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,520
than two years.
And pride certainly had to know

753
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,960
that with how much, you know,
how much interest he would have

754
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,680
gotten.
He didn't he didn't fit the

755
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,360
personnel we had at the time and
he didn't cast a very wide net

756
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,800
in the transfer portal.
And then he leaves in March.

757
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,480
You hire a crook, that doesn't
work out.

758
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:56,680
You can't get any good
transfers.

759
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,160
And it kind of just set us back,
you know, a couple more years.

760
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:01,400
So I think going back there's,
there's lots of things that

761
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,280
probably would have changed, but
I just, I just don't think it

762
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,040
was what BT needed at the time.
I would have preferred someone

763
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,200
of a little more kind of a lower
level developmental program.

764
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,600
You know, a guy like Adam
Cushing and was that

765
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,480
Northwestern Matt Gallico took
him in, went to Duke and the

766
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,160
Texas A&M, you know, guy like
that, I think would have been a

767
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,120
little bit more kind of, you
know, the, the, you know, type

768
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,840
of type of online coach we
should go for.

769
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,120
I just, I don't think it was the
right the right move for what we

770
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,320
needed at the time.
I got.

771
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,240
You I'll ask this question right
quick.

772
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:35,080
I'll ask this question.
I know, I know Brian put a name

773
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,520
out there, but so mainly to
Curtis and Shelton because

774
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,680
Shelton kind of hinted around
and I like what you said.

775
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,920
What kind of guy does in the
position we're in right now?

776
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,320
What kind of coach?
I ain't saying a name.

777
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,280
What kind of old line coach do
you y'all think we need right

778
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,960
now?
Like do y'all think we need a

779
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,960
very experienced coach?
You think we need a young,

780
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,160
young, energetic coach?
Like what kind of mold do you

781
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,880
think we need for this next step
that we have to take?

782
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,720
I think we need a personality
guy.

783
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:14,680
I, I think we need a guy that
can relate well with a broad

784
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:21,000
range of kids that reside within
the footprint that we recruit.

785
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,360
I don't think we necessarily I,
I think Crook may have been

786
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,400
Crook and Rudolph to a point may
have been a little bit more

787
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,040
traditional than the type of
coach.

788
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,800
I think that we need this go
around.

789
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,320
I'm I'm with Ron on that.
Just just someone who's a

790
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,040
willing recruiter.
I mean, again, offensive line is

791
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:44,840
a position where you have to
stack bodies.

792
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,440
And I'm just, I'm just, you
know, we, I, I don't think the

793
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,880
recruiting gave them a chance.
Honestly, like with how, with

794
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,640
how bad it was the, the lack of,
you know, commitments these last

795
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:59,240
two years in, in that room, I
just, I, I, I think I, I don't

796
00:44:59,240 --> 00:45:01,200
think they had a chance.
So just just get someone who's a

797
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:02,680
recruiter and bring guys in,
really.

798
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,680
Yeah, give me an energy, give me
a younger guy because you have

799
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,440
to stack bodies like like y'all
are both saying like we're all

800
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:17,480
saying you've got to stack
bodies in that room and with a

801
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,440
younger guy.
Is it is it a choice of Levar

802
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,480
didn't put a name in here, so
I'm going to have to look it up.

803
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:28,960
But to me, you've got to go
younger, like, and it's not

804
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,200
necessarily that those young
guys can't coach.

805
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,240
A lot of them can coach, but you
need energy like you need to

806
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:42,600
make that room believe again.
You need to make them mean you

807
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,720
know.
Mark responsive.

808
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,920
You're on mute, Curtis.
If I Curtis.

809
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,040
Lost my mic.
Give me a second here.

810
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:58,000
You're good, but, well, that's
because the computer might go,

811
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,960
but I think it's a younger guy
in some way, shape or form.

812
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,960
Now, do I want a guy like
nobody's ever heard of?

813
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,880
No.
I've at least got to know a

814
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,160
little bit about them.
They got at least put a guy in

815
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,600
the league.
So that's where I feel on that.

816
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,760
I won't talk to the defense
about it all though, because to

817
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,160
me.
If our.

818
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,800
Defense, our offense scored 29.8
points a game.

819
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,760
Y'all, if I told y'all we were
going to score 30 points a game,

820
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,200
we tally would have sat here and
said we're going to win nine

821
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,560
games, then we will win one
extra game over my eight.

822
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,760
I think the defensive higher is
more important because I think

823
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,800
the way Tyler Bone has proved,
even with a below average

824
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,200
offensive line in the last few
years, we can put up points at

825
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,920
times.
So when I think that what do I

826
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,040
want, you know, I'm going to
throw a name out.

827
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:58,480
Here throw a name.
Lyle Hemphill, look up the name.

828
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,160
Get to your phone, look up the
name.

829
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:05,400
Lyle Hemphill.
He is currently the defensive

830
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:10,000
coordinator at JMU.
Guess where he was in 23?

831
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,200
And y'all going to love this.
He was Michael huh?

832
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,440
No, he was Mike Elko's DC and
Duke.

833
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,480
Yeah.
He was Mike Elko's DC Duke.

834
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:27,560
And if you.
He was Co DC, either way, Co DC.

835
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,840
Before that, he coached the
safeties of Duke with Mike Elko.

836
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,640
Before that, he was defensive
coordinator 19 to 21.

837
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:40,280
For Clawson, 19 was a very good
year, was in 19 to 21.

838
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,600
One of those was a very good
season for Wake Forest.

839
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,160
He's 44 years old.
He is from the Mid-Atlantic

840
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,320
area.
If you take a look at him he he

841
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,760
played at Delaware so probably
knows the footprint decent.

842
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,560
That's so that's that's that's a
sneaky good name.

843
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,120
This is a.
Fucking sneaky good name because

844
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,240
he's been ADC he's coached in.
The I had never heard of that

845
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,160
name, but I'm looking it up now
and then.

846
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,680
That's pretty good.
That.

847
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:11,400
That's a sneaky good name.
You go look at his picture on

848
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,760
like Wikipedia.
He kind of looks crazy, a little

849
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,640
bit like standing.
So, you know, I need him to be,

850
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,120
you know, a little crazy like
that.

851
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,720
I'm all right with that.
All right, so I will throw a

852
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:24,480
name.
I will throw a name to

853
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,280
somewhere, probably on
everybody's mind.

854
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,280
Everybody's probably at least
thought of it.

855
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,960
Hey.
That's loud right there.

856
00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:36,920
That's loud, loud.
I'm going to throw a name that

857
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,560
everybody's probably thought of
at this point, and you probably

858
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,360
have strong feelings one way or
another on it.

859
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:49,360
Anthony Poindexter.
I'm not saying that's my pick,

860
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,000
but I'm saying I could be talked
into that pic and I'll tell you

861
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,600
why.
The reason I could be talked

862
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,240
into that pic is that if we're
talking about bringing some

863
00:48:57,240 --> 00:49:01,120
juice on the trail, Anthony
Poindexter will bring some

864
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:05,360
fucking juice on the trail.
Yeah, for real.

865
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,360
You're right by that.
Yeah, I got.

866
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,680
The other piece and I didn't
know that Sheldon, you probably

867
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,520
did, probably should have asked
you and didn't realize

868
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,640
Poindexter had been a play
called in DC at UConn back few

869
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,480
years ago.
He's been strictly Co DC.

870
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,760
Yeah, he yeah, he did somebody,
I can't remember who it was, if

871
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,680
I could.
If you're out there listening

872
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,520
and I talk to you in one of the
chats.

873
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,480
Great.
Like he called play.

874
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,080
So he's been in that seat
before.

875
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:42,760
He obviously hasn't been up
since he's been back yet since

876
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,520
he's been back at Penn State,
but I like that name personally.

877
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,480
You know, I, I think, I think
the thing.

878
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,400
That would also.
It would be going, it would it

879
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,880
would be 1/2 step back into the
well from an experience

880
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:01,600
standpoint.
But you cannot argue with the

881
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:06,320
recruiting side of things and
being able to absolutely crush

882
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:11,520
the footprint.
And I think, I think to me it's

883
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,120
a calculated risk that I'd be
willing to take from an overall

884
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:20,480
experience standpoint relative
to what we had with Chris Marv.

885
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:27,760
But it does not give you quite
as much in game P5 experience as

886
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,400
Lyle Hemphill.
So there we go.

887
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,720
Who's that?
Who's next?

888
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:38,120
What's next?
Well, I'm going to just say real

889
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,840
quick to Mr. Graham out here,
Robert Salas getting a defensive

890
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,840
coordinator job in the NFL.
It's not even a question.

891
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,640
He might actually, he might
actually be back in San

892
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,560
Francisco by the end of the
year.

893
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,560
And our the alumnus, Nick
Sorenson, the former Hokie might

894
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:58,720
be getting fired too.
So yeah, let's actually go down

895
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:01,360
and let's now y'all have
anything else y'all want to talk

896
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,480
about coaching wise?
I think we all agree if a few

897
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:09,080
coaches had to get fired, he
fired the right bridge and, and

898
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,680
I will.
And I said this to Dwight.

899
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,000
I was texting with Dwight the
other night and I texted y'all

900
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,080
too.
I think it proved a little bit

901
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,920
as as much as he's an
inexperienced head coach tally

902
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:22,800
Brian Shelton, I think y'all can
agree with this.

903
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,720
He did his first big boy move as
a head coach.

904
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,480
He he fired his damn protege.
You know how tough that is?

905
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,880
Yeah, yeah.
He knows.

906
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,000
He known Chris Moore probably
since he was like 19 and he

907
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,360
fired his ass.
Now, what was Chris Marv?

908
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,320
He's got 2.5 million coming his
way.

909
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,960
But you know.
But what did you like?

910
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:46,680
What?
Yeah.

911
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,600
Then only ask next two years.
But anything else from the

912
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,040
staff?
Do y'all do y'all think I know

913
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,560
Robbie put it in here.
He thinks that he could see more

914
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,680
changes happening.
Do y'all think we see more

915
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,280
changes happening?
I I think there's still some

916
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:06,320
shuffling left to be done,
whether that's PP taking a step

917
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,960
back because of who we bring in
a coordinator, whether that's a

918
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:14,480
little bit of a shuffling on the
offensive side, if there is

919
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,960
someone brought in to
potentially coach quarterbacks

920
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,960
full time and be a COC or
something of that effect.

921
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,640
I'm interested to see what's
going to happen on that side of

922
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,320
the ball.
I think I feel OK about

923
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,560
defensive side of the ball
because I think the the steps

924
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:33,080
that can be taken there are
pretty pretty straightforward

925
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,520
without really rocking the boat
too much.

926
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:39,280
So I'm interested to see how
that side of the ball shakes

927
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:40,520
out.
But I definitely see at least

928
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,280
one or two of our current
position coaches having some

929
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,480
other title at the start of
spring ball.

930
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,840
All righty, since we don't let
let's close the book on that.

931
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,240
Hopefully the next time we talk,
which should be about 10 days

932
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:01,200
from now, we're talking about
new coordinators.

933
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,920
We can complain about them then,
but let's now let's flip over to

934
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,520
the portal.
I'm going to go with the good

935
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:10,000
news before we get into all the
departures and that was at the

936
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,480
press conference.
Effectively both Pop Watson and

937
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:19,120
Kyron Jones are returning.
So that tells me we do not need

938
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,840
to go get a quarterback.
I think with what we saw, we

939
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:27,960
know Kyron, what he can be.
If y'all didn't hear today, we

940
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,400
we've known for a little while
now about these injuries.

941
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:36,920
Power was basically a damn mass
unit all season, but we saw the

942
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:40,320
glimpses of pop.
We're not going to quarterback

943
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,400
shopping this year in the
portal.

944
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:46,040
And as much as somebody might
want to see it, yeah.

945
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:49,320
Yeah, Well, y'all.
Coward was in was pretty much

946
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:54,440
injured in a fairly significant
way from Rutgers on SO.

947
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:56,280
Vanderbilt on.
Really.

948
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,680
Vanderbilt on.
But yeah, remember.

949
00:53:57,720 --> 00:53:59,760
Remember, he got sacked and he
got stepped on.

950
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:05,160
Yeah, but from AI, I'm thinking
from a impacting his play

951
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:10,960
standpoint, absolutely looking
at Rutgers on and you know

952
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,080
getting him back is big.
Getting pop to stay in the fold

953
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,480
is big.
It definitely gives you a solid

954
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,920
quarterback room heading into
next season.

955
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,480
A a quarterback room I think you
feel comfortable with even if

956
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:29,480
maybe Yep, still some question
marks, right, Because Pop is

957
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,560
still young, hasn't played a ton
of snaps.

958
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,240
Kyron's got some injuries to
come back from may not get as

959
00:54:35,240 --> 00:54:39,720
much run in spring as you would
like, right.

960
00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:41,920
So they're they're still going
to be some question marks there.

961
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,320
But I think we're still talking
about a quarterback situation

962
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,400
that is better heading into 2025
then I think we expected without

963
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:50,560
having to hit the transfer
portal.

964
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,560
Tally.
No, I agree.

965
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:01,240
We touched on it.
Like I said, man, I mean, we

966
00:55:01,240 --> 00:55:04,120
knew for a while, but Calm was
hurt.

967
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,160
You know, there's no excuses in
football, but Calm was hurt a

968
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,480
lot.
He got a lot of the blame of

969
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,720
what happened to Virginia Tech
this year.

970
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,600
And I mean, you could put some
of the blame on the quarterback,

971
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:19,680
but Kia was hurt, man.
He tried to give what he could

972
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,440
give when he was on the field.
In my opinion, sometimes I feel

973
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,680
like he shouldn't have been on
the field.

974
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,200
Like if I was the coach, he
wouldn't have been on the field,

975
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,520
somebody else would have been.
But I was glad to see him come

976
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,800
back, you know what I'm saying?
I was glad to see him come back

977
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,680
and I hope he comes back and
proves a lot of people wrong in

978
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,760
some of his play because I think
we've seen what he could be.

979
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,800
And even if he is, you know,
goes back to what he was last

980
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:52,880
year, that still would have gave
us probably two more games, you

981
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,080
know, this year.
So you just want to see the kids

982
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,480
healthy, man, see them compete.
And it gives you competition

983
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:02,840
going into the spring, gives you
a little bit of stability.

984
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,320
So you can go into the portal
and say, hey, we do have this

985
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,240
because for a while it was
looking like, what do we have?

986
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,120
You know what I'm saying?
And that's a big, that's a big

987
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,400
thing to be able to go into the
Porter and say, hey, we do have

988
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,720
two guys that we know are
playmakers at the quarterback

989
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,960
position.
We just need to put some people

990
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,480
around them so we can get to the
next level.

991
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,600
And we know we got some young
talent that that's stepping in

992
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,120
that I'm interested to see.
That's why this bowl game, I

993
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:31,320
know we'll talk about it a
little bit.

994
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,800
It'll be interesting to me.
I still think we're going to get

995
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,920
our breaks beat off of us, but
I'd like to see, you know, where

996
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,320
we're going.
And and that's because of the

997
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,040
offensive line.
But whatever the case is, I'm

998
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,400
glad to see both quarterbacks
come back.

999
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,280
But again, mainly for me, man.
And this ain't on the fan shit.

1000
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,880
This ain't like me liking Karen
as a person.

1001
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:56,120
This is just me looking at it as
a fan looking at football.

1002
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,240
You got your starting
quarterback coming back and then

1003
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:03,120
you got the backup that came in
and show some promise coming

1004
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,880
back.
Looks like he's put it together

1005
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,640
and he's coming back.
They both decided.

1006
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,600
You don't see that in this
transfer portal market that

1007
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,920
often and you definitely have.
We haven't seen it in Virginia

1008
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,640
Tech.
Like we didn't have a returning

1009
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,680
quarterback for how many years?
Like we kept changing and

1010
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,720
changing and changing like no
stability.

1011
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:26,120
So, you know, I'm interested to
see, see what we can, what we

1012
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,920
put together.
About you, Shelton.

1013
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,080
Were you shot?
Surprised, Happy.

1014
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,480
Unhappy.
A little surprised.

1015
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,960
I mean, you know, I I didn't
think they'd keep both of them,

1016
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,800
especially, you know, they're
due to get paid.

1017
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,880
And I guess it was nice to see
that, you know, pop wasn't the

1018
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,560
type of player that's going to,
you know, ask for some giant bag

1019
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,440
and then dip like, you know,
Moe's did.

1020
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,320
I just you know, it's it's
you're good to see, you know, it

1021
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,560
seems like he's a he's a team.
Maybe I shouldn't have said that

1022
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,080
out loud.
I don't know whatever I mean, I

1023
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,000
think, I think.
I think we, I think most people

1024
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,640
knew that.
People go now, you know they.

1025
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,520
Don't know the number, but they
knew the circumstance.

1026
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,360
They knew circumstance, yeah.
Yeah, well, he's gone anyways.

1027
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:10,480
I don't care, but it does seem
like they're both Kyron and Pop

1028
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,960
are both very much, you know,
team first players.

1029
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,760
You know, they're not going to,
you know, cry about it.

1030
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,200
They're not going to quit.
They're just going to keep, you

1031
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:18,520
know, grinding.
So it's good that both of them

1032
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,000
back.
And, you know, competition

1033
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,680
brings out the best in people.
So, you know, I think I, I've

1034
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,040
heard some people say like, you
know, if you have two

1035
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,800
quarterbacks enough one like,
well, we don't even know if we

1036
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,960
have 1.
So I think, you know, just

1037
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,840
compete and and that'll make you
better and hold, hold, hold

1038
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,920
yourself accountable.
And you know, Pop is a pretty

1039
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,680
good insurance policy as well.
100% All right.

1040
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,240
I don't know where Charlie went.
Charlie, you still there?

1041
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,200
Where the hell did you go?
He ran away.

1042
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,640
He ran away.
It's all right.

1043
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,200
We'll we'll bring it all back
together.

1044
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:48,960
Obviously, if y'all haven't,
check out Colby Crawford 247

1045
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:53,040
keeping up with the list.
This is so much the list is so

1046
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:59,560
much bigger than last year.
The FCS guys, G5 guys we're

1047
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,080
starting to see now more P5 got
P4 guys.

1048
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,120
Is it ever going to not be the
P4?

1049
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,160
But as much as we know guys are
out there, obviously Koval

1050
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,960
coming in, obviously a lot of
visits and stuff, we got to talk

1051
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,840
about who left.
So I want to start with whoever

1052
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,480
wants to start.
What's the one hurt you the

1053
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,080
most?
When Chaplin ain't not fucking,

1054
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,960
it's not even fucking close.
Chaplin.

1055
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,640
OK.
Just main sharing by us and have

1056
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:34,440
anything now that I say that We
know Chaplin has committed to

1057
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,120
Auburn and I know Shelton and
Tally were talking about how

1058
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,480
unlucky Auburn was this year.
Correct.

1059
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,240
Were you?
Shocked that he went there

1060
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,440
first.
I was over Ole Miss, South

1061
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,400
Carolina.
Who were the two projected front

1062
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,520
runners?
Who were teams that close to the

1063
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,320
playoffs?
Tally says he was.

1064
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,920
Yeah, I definitely was.
I was.

1065
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,680
I was, I mean.
Being here and, and seeing kind

1066
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,200
of, you know, what Auburn is, I
mean, I've always kind of kept

1067
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,520
up with Auburn from being from
here, you know, usually like

1068
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,840
more Auburn players so and their
traditions and things like that.

1069
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:18,480
But I just didn't, I never seen
him like being a Auburn guy.

1070
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:20,160
That just kind of threw me for a
loop.

1071
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:25,520
I didn't hear the name, his name
associated with them, you know,

1072
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,360
talking to some of the, the
Auburn fans and, and you know,

1073
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,160
like you said, I was looking at
some of the teams that I thought

1074
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:34,960
like he, what we had heard he
had offers from and things like

1075
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,280
that.
So Auburn never like was on the

1076
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,840
radar at all to me.
But when they're like, hey, he

1077
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,080
committed to Auburn, I was like,
why #1 like that was the first

1078
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,200
thing.
But then when I look at it, I'm

1079
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,400
like, it's kind of what Robbie
said, like Freeze was at

1080
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,480
Liberty.
Freeze knows how to, he knows

1081
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,360
how to recruit, he knows how to
get what he wants.

1082
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,320
So, and it's probably a good
situation with Chaplain

1083
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,120
monetarily, you know what I'm
saying?

1084
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,520
Like he's getting what he wants.
So I wish him the best.

1085
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,480
But it was definitely a hard
pill to swallow that he left and

1086
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,840
then for him to go to Armand,
'cause I'm like, they're not

1087
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,480
even going to a bowl game and
you went there.

1088
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:14,520
So sometimes it's about money,
man, you know what I'm saying?

1089
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,400
Sometimes it's about money.
Sheldon.

1090
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:23,080
Yeah, Chaplin was the one guy,
you know, maybe would sit and

1091
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,080
and think throw him in there as
well that I really, really do

1092
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,920
not want to lose.
Like I was on defcon one if we

1093
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,560
lost him and we did and you
know, maybe it's not the end of

1094
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,560
the world, but it's just hard to
constantly replace, you know,

1095
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,120
quality starting O lineman.
And again, like you talked about

1096
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,880
tonight, like the staff just
hasn't done a good enough job

1097
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,040
recruiting in that room and I
think it's going to really hurt

1098
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,040
them next year.
So can't really spend that one

1099
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,240
man stuff.
Yeah, when, when you've

1100
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,560
identified your offensive line
coach and your offensive line as

1101
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:58,360
a as a unit, as an area, you
said you need to upgrade and you

1102
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:03,360
lose probably the best 2 pieces
that are returning on that unit.

1103
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,520
And we'll talk about the other
one here shortly.

1104
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:13,360
That stings, right?
And I'm not saying there's not a

1105
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:18,840
price that I wouldn't be willing
to to throw out there, but it

1106
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:22,720
would it would have probably
been at least a little closer to

1107
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,320
what the whispers were.
And I'm thankfully, you know,

1108
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,880
after June there won't be
question.

1109
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:31,240
Marks of what's not thrown.
Anymore, there will be, there

1110
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,800
will be certitude of what what's
being thrown, not just these

1111
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:39,480
whispers and rumors and hearsays
and second hands and all that

1112
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,280
bullshit.
But I would have personally been

1113
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,640
OK with with matching what I
have heard was the official

1114
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,640
offer, not the shit that got
peddled on the board's offer.

1115
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:58,240
So that's where I am.
I'll say with this, with Xavier,

1116
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:03,760
I think, you know, because there
were things flying about the

1117
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:07,840
coaches and wanted to step up
and OK all that, whatever.

1118
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,920
What I always get more pissed
off.

1119
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,240
Maybe shouldn't because it's
these guys with their

1120
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,960
livelihoods.
If something, if something

1121
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,800
happens weird in spring and he
shatters his leg into a billion

1122
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,880
pieces, Xavier Chaplin for the
rest of his life is probably

1123
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,360
set.
With what happened going to

1124
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:31,440
Auburn, he's probably set.
But it always kind of hurts to

1125
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,080
say.
Like if he went to South

1126
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,480
Carolina, a lot of people would
have been pissed off.

1127
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,680
Shane stole him from us.
It's like, no, so Nora Sellers

1128
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,680
is a good fucking quarterback.
They got a good team returning

1129
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,680
next year and now they're
getting this left tackle piece

1130
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,000
who's really good or Ole Miss,
even though Jackson darts not

1131
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:49,760
returning.
We know Lane Kiffin can coach

1132
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,400
offense.
He's going to put that together

1133
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,200
and it's like the missing piece
with those who would have been

1134
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,960
like, OK, he's going to be the
guy that puts them over and

1135
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,880
that's why they paid so much for
him.

1136
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,880
It's going to Auburn and you
just know it's literally it was

1137
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,880
the highest price.
He probably walked in.

1138
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,000
This is what they want to give
me.

1139
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,120
If you give me X amount of
dollars more, I'll commit here

1140
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,040
today.
But again, it's his livelihood.

1141
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:18,960
We we talked about Mansoor, we
all felt could have went last

1142
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,720
year shocking to go to LSU
versus going pro.

1143
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:27,000
I am in the opinion my opinion,
if Mansoor has a slightly bad

1144
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:28,400
seasons, he's not getting
drafted.

1145
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,400
Where right now, if he committed
to go to the draft somewhere

1146
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:35,280
between 3:00 and 6:00, he goes
down there and screws up, he

1147
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:40,360
ain't getting drafted.
He's betting on himself, which

1148
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:45,720
I'm fine with.
Yeah, I'm this one hurt a little

1149
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,440
less.
And the main thing is because I

1150
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,720
expected him to be gone in some
way, shape or form at the end of

1151
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:59,280
the season anyway, so the end
result didn't change.

1152
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:04,800
I'm a little surprised and maybe
a little frustrated by how we,

1153
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:08,880
how the in in game got there.
But you know, I, I, I expected

1154
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,880
him to probably be gone at the
end of this season anyway, So

1155
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,720
that one stings a little bit
less from my perspective.

1156
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,800
I know we had, you know, we had
kind of talked about probably

1157
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,480
the this year we're going to
need to replace 2 cornerbacks.

1158
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,600
Like we, we were talking about
that before the season started.

1159
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,080
We.
Were.

1160
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:28,680
Right.
So and that's why something like

1161
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,680
getting drones and pop back is
big because we kind of thought

1162
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,440
whether drones goes, you know,
makes makes a bigger jump or

1163
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:40,200
whether he returns to Virginia
Tech, We thought we were going

1164
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:44,320
to either lose him and Pop was
going to be the guy or pop was

1165
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,040
going to go because drones is
back for not for for another

1166
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,680
year.
So in that in that room, it

1167
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,400
feels like a bonus in this room,
it just kind of feels like this

1168
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,400
was expected anyway.
So it is what it is.

1169
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,160
Yeah, Also, Monsoor is going to
make way more money at LSU than

1170
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,120
you would in the NFL with that
rookie contract system.

1171
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,440
So we're all so we can all
remind ourselves of where

1172
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,240
college athletics is currently.
Yes, but also what Brian said

1173
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,160
too.
And this is when it when that

1174
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,080
shit hits the fan.
Tally me.

1175
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,120
I've been talking to you about
it a little bit and all y'all,

1176
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,600
when that hits the fan in June,
and I'll start with the guy at

1177
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,640
work and you start knowing how
much these kids are getting

1178
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,160
paid.
Some of these kids aren't going

1179
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:30,680
to be able to leave.
They aren't going to go to

1180
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,040
class, They're not going to be
able to leave their dorm just so

1181
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:34,960
they're going to go to practice.
They'll go to the game and

1182
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:38,400
they're going to go back home.
Because if they stink and you

1183
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,520
got a $2,000,000 tag next to
your name, people are now going

1184
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:46,600
to know.
People are going to know.

1185
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,040
We paid this bump $2,000,000 and
he's a piece of trash.

1186
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,600
They was talking.
They was talking about him

1187
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,000
before they know how much money
though.

1188
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:54,800
Oh, it's.
Going to be worse now though.

1189
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:55,880
Talent, it's going to be the
same.

1190
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:57,720
They're going, oh, they're.
Going to be worse.

1191
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,120
Well, they'll they'll know what
percentage of the NIL has gone

1192
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,520
towards this player instead of
just having whispers and

1193
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,720
hearsays and second hands.
Yeah, I got to remember though,

1194
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,600
people get a lot more brave when
they get behind them computers,

1195
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,400
when you say they won't be able
to go nowhere.

1196
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,120
You talk about a football player
going to get something to eat.

1197
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,600
You don't understand in the way
of a big man going to eat.

1198
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,200
They probably they probably will
leave them alone because I kept

1199
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:28,600
telling people like again, like
love it, hate it, I don't care.

1200
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,000
People used to give Billy Ray
all kind of shit and I was like,

1201
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,880
y'all do know that's a big
motherfucker, right?

1202
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,280
I mean, what y'all do all that
typing and talking and stuff

1203
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,360
saying you saying to their face,
it's a little bit different.

1204
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,080
Not saying nobody will, but I'm
just saying I don't think that

1205
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,960
that is going to be.
So there's a lot of people that

1206
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,880
talk shit behind their keyboard.
It wouldn't say not.

1207
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,440
A damn right, not a damn right
real quick.

1208
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:58,440
All I mean, Mansour gone to LSU,
Xavier Allen, Gunner Gibbons

1209
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:02,360
committed to Vanderbilt today.
Of all the other guys, I know

1210
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,840
Brian mentioned Braylon Moore.
So a little bit of all the other

1211
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,960
guys, who's your one that you
were kind of shocked to see

1212
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,600
going into the portal?
Now with Braylon Moore, besides

1213
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:18,479
like besides chaplain, I was
like he leaving, you know, I

1214
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,319
just not that I didn't think he
could.

1215
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:25,760
I was just like I, I just, I
didn't think that was happening.

1216
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,640
Then when I seen predictions to
LSU, I'm like, is he going to go

1217
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,000
to LSU and start?
That's what I want to know.

1218
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,960
He is not committed.
Yet, right.

1219
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:36,960
But I just said, like I said,
prediction.

1220
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,040
So I don't know, man.
I don't know.

1221
01:08:39,399 --> 01:08:42,200
It's not that nothing really
surprises me anymore.

1222
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,120
It just kind of sometimes you
got some head scratches.

1223
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:48,319
But in this climate that we're
in in college football, like,

1224
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:51,640
nothing surprises me with the
transport portal.

1225
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:53,880
Yeah.
I mean, it's frustrating

1226
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:58,160
thinking that, all right, So our
offensive line isn't great, but

1227
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,520
the two most important positions
on it we feel pretty solid

1228
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,760
about, right?
And then both of those guys are

1229
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,520
in the portal ones already
committed somewhere else.

1230
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,720
Yeah, I was actually looking up
to next year, like, man, I think

1231
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,640
we're going to be, you know, in
a little bit better position

1232
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,880
next year with some of the
pieces that we got.

1233
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,880
You know, because I feel like
once we move this person and

1234
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,920
this person and you give this
person more time, the offensive

1235
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:25,240
line has more time to be
cohesive and we get this piece

1236
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,200
back.
And you know, I think that this

1237
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,279
receiver and this receiver was
going to be a little bit more

1238
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:30,800
dynamic because this guy was
hurt.

1239
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:35,240
And then boom, first day you get
hit with the two pieces that you

1240
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,319
don't need to leave the
offensive line are freaking

1241
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:41,160
gone.
And then in our mind, I'm

1242
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:45,680
already, I already got the
mentality of Ron Crook taking 7

1243
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,800
lineman in two cycles or
whatever the case may be.

1244
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:50,920
It's like we ain't going to get
nobody else.

1245
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:55,720
Like what are we going to do?
So I have been disengaged with.

1246
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:59,520
It's it's it's frustrating
because like you said, Tally,

1247
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:02,840
like you look at, you know,
Chaplin locked in more locked

1248
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,200
in.
You know, you feel like Garrett

1249
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,280
with another year of season
could be an up an upgrade from

1250
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,680
Parker, right?
At least we thought we talked

1251
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,760
about he might even be an
upgrade this year from Parker.

1252
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:18,320
You get, you know, Meadows, you
get Cunningham, you get Ganem,

1253
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,400
another year of seasoning for
that interior.

1254
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:26,240
You're like, maybe we start
making a little bit of, of

1255
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:29,840
movement here and then you lose
your, your top 2 on the line and

1256
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,160
now you're like, we got to
scramble a little bit.

1257
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,800
And you still, I think you still
feel OK about those other guys.

1258
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,440
And then you still got how, how
Schick still has another year of

1259
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:41,200
eligibility.
I don't fucking know, but he

1260
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,360
does.
You got those?

1261
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:46,160
Guys, I think Schick is my age.
He's got to be my age.

1262
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,680
He's he's approaching it.
So you got those guys coming

1263
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,080
back you so you still feel about
as good as you did about those

1264
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,960
other spots.
But now your two most important

1265
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,360
spots, you got a backfill some
ways.

1266
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,400
So there's a, there's a trickle
down of now you, you went from

1267
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:03,680
having six baby, seven guys you
feel pretty good about to now

1268
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,200
having maybe five guys.
And they don't, they don't fit

1269
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,600
into the two positions that are
the most important.

1270
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:14,080
Sheldon, anybody else on here it
shocked you and.

1271
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:17,360
I.
Don't know about shocked.

1272
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:20,360
I mean, I was surprised Moses
left just especially because

1273
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,240
it's kind of for dumb reasons as
we've discussed.

1274
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:25,840
But I don't know, I mean, seems
like they've kind of kind of

1275
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,000
backfield that spot.
So I don't know.

1276
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,120
I mean, you get rid of a few
walk ONS, you know, there's

1277
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:32,320
probably some scholarship guys
you'd like to, you know, keep

1278
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:33,360
around.
But for the most part, I think

1279
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,680
it's kind of just a standard,
you know, roster shuffle, you

1280
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:38,520
know, getting outside the two,
the two lineman.

1281
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:41,000
So, you know, not not too
worried about it.

1282
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,200
I think it's more so the concern
is like, you know, just bringing

1283
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,000
more guys in and, and you reckon
do it until you, you know, start

1284
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,520
filling out the staff again.
So kind of a kind of a wait and

1285
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,040
see to everything.
You got a, you got a backfield,

1286
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,680
there's a lot of moving parts
and you know, even once those

1287
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:56,440
coaches come on, there's
probably still going to be some

1288
01:11:56,440 --> 01:11:58,400
more, you know, slight shuffles
there.

1289
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,360
So it's going to be interesting
to see what we do here.

1290
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,320
And I, I think that's why
sometimes I, I hate having

1291
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:09,240
these, these portal discussions
because it's, it's such an

1292
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,920
incomplete piece until
everything kind of wraps up.

1293
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,200
It's also they need to change
the frame of when it's done.

1294
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:22,520
This is the worst, yeah.
And, and I, I get, I get why

1295
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,320
they do it because of the start
of the spring semester.

1296
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,640
So there's like there's a
tighter window.

1297
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,760
Yeah, in a perfect world, we
back the season up a little bit.

1298
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:37,440
We'd finish everything by the
1st of January, and then we can

1299
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:41,800
actually have some, some fucking
time to, yeah, everyone can

1300
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,040
explore their options before the
start of spring semester.

1301
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:46,680
But that's not happening I
think.

1302
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,560
At least on the short term.
I think well the, the season's

1303
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,040
going January 20th this year.
I couldn't tell you.

1304
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,160
All schools are different with
their time frames.

1305
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,000
I think it starts January 2nd
next year.

1306
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:02,280
I think there's an 18 day portal
window from the end or the the

1307
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,760
the four games on New Year's
Eve, New Year's Day and then to

1308
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:07,640
like the Sunday of the national
championship.

1309
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:10,080
I don't think they're going, I
don't think they're going to

1310
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,880
change until they back the
season up at least a week.

1311
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,480
Dang they're the back season up
a week though.

1312
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,440
That's the issue.
They're not going to be the

1313
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:17,680
back.
You're already playing games on

1314
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,360
week zero.
Everybody just fucking start on

1315
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:19,960
week zero.
What?

1316
01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:22,640
Happened.
It ain't gonna happen.

1317
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,160
I'm just saying you're already
playing.

1318
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,320
You're already playing a prime
time game on week zero.

1319
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,800
Just back the bitch up a week.
It ain't gonna happen.

1320
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,480
It just ain't gonna happen
because ESPN controls it all and

1321
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:35,880
they stupid.
Let's roll on.

1322
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,200
I wanted to just hit the WID
interview real quick.

1323
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:45,120
I know for me, I wasn't shocked
but pleasantly surprised at the

1324
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,600
number.
That will roughly be what, 17

1325
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:53,640
and a half million with the
revenue sharing for football,

1326
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,000
for football next year, 20 1/2
total.

1327
01:13:57,440 --> 01:13:59,960
Anything else from that
interview that stood out for

1328
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:01,920
y'all?
Just that number, because it's

1329
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:05,800
like, wow, it's a ton of revenue
sharing numbers that obviously

1330
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:09,160
with the way State of Virginia
set up, you can pay the players

1331
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:14,480
right there without any
blinking, nothing else.

1332
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,320
You know, I think, I think the
the interview was interesting.

1333
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:25,560
I think it covered a topic that
I think not a lot of people had

1334
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:31,640
really dove into about how it
specifically was going to impact

1335
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,760
Virginia Tech.
So I think it was something that

1336
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:38,640
was really important to discuss
about not only here's what's

1337
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,280
happening, but here's our at
least short term strategy to

1338
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,360
meet that ask, meet that
challenge.

1339
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,800
At the same time, I think
there's still some things that

1340
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,680
we we're going to need to to
adapt to and do better

1341
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,440
throughout this process.
I know there's going to need to

1342
01:15:00,440 --> 01:15:09,800
be reallocation of probably some
priorities, both with long term

1343
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:15,800
financial compensation for
coaches probably across the

1344
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,920
board as well as you know,
capital investments in athletic

1345
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:25,600
facilities are going to need to
be on a as needed basis instead

1346
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:30,240
of a as requested and, and, and,
and desired basis.

1347
01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:36,240
Unfortunately, I think that
you're probably some of this is

1348
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:41,080
going to affect the basketball
team even more as it has in the

1349
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,600
short term.
I think it's going to be a long

1350
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,320
term impact on the basketball
team as well, unfortunately.

1351
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:46,560
So we'll see how that shakes
out.

1352
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:52,680
Anybody else on which Cal City
had none shelved in anything?

1353
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,440
Good chance to kind of get wit
out there in public and you

1354
01:15:57,440 --> 01:15:59,400
know, speak to the fan base a
little bit, kind of, you know,

1355
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,920
calms and tempers.
I mean, he's not the, you know,

1356
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:04,120
not the best public speaker.
So having him kind of a

1357
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,200
controlled environment where he
can kind of lay out the

1358
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,480
groundwork for what Vt is doing
to be proactive and and IELTS

1359
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:09,520
basis.
I think it's pretty good.

1360
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,040
So and it sounds like the
universe has kind of been very

1361
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:15,080
forward thinking.
So I think there's some some

1362
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,920
things to be positive about.
You know, as always, there's

1363
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,120
going to be, you know what, an
arms race.

1364
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:22,880
And you know, tech doesn't have
the biggest coffers, but they,

1365
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:24,000
you know, they're certainly
trying.

1366
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:29,480
So gotta be excited about that
at least. 100% on that all right

1367
01:16:29,480 --> 01:16:33,560
let's flip it as y'all know we
are brought to you by accounts

1368
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,640
family pharmacy your friendly
neighborhood pharmacy three O 1

1369
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,800
S Main St.
Let's talk about the class 2025.

1370
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,920
We're not going to get too in
depth and talk about all the

1371
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:46,960
players and everything.
First of all, 11 of the 19 will

1372
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:51,360
be on campus for spring, which
is really freaking good.

1373
01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:58,000
Big story of that day was the
Jamari Deloach flip.

1374
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:04,360
Flip at 7:00 AM on signing day
becomes the second highest guy

1375
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,640
in the class, a top ten player
in the state.

1376
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:10,960
Did it make you feel good at
least?

1377
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:13,680
Like you sitting here and it's
like you think the class is all

1378
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,040
made out and then all of a
sudden, oh, we got to flip.

1379
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:19,600
My first thought was it's
probably like the 26th ranked

1380
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,480
player that going to JMU and
then no it's not.

1381
01:17:23,480 --> 01:17:25,640
It's actually someone pretty
elite.

1382
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:30,160
Right, and in a position that we
need players.

1383
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:35,040
So definitely was a a pleasant
surprise because I didn't see

1384
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,440
that coming and I was I was
happy about that.

1385
01:17:37,440 --> 01:17:43,080
So loved it, loved one.
I mean, I guess even through the

1386
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:47,440
Fuente era, it was just like, I
love what they do for signing

1387
01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:51,480
day now prior and company.
Like that's just fun to watch.

1388
01:17:51,480 --> 01:17:54,040
The whole production is good.
I know people bitch about it.

1389
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:55,440
That's just because that's what
they want to do.

1390
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:59,560
But the production is good.
You know, the the interviews

1391
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,360
with the families and stuff like
that, That's just entertainment.

1392
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,920
Besides how you feel about where
football's at, like that's

1393
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,760
entertainment.
So just watching that, man, it

1394
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:12,720
was cool.
And besides that, it's just

1395
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,760
like, OK, you kind of know who's
going to be there.

1396
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,800
You want to see what they're
going to say, but you know it.

1397
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:18,880
And it's been like that for
years.

1398
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:20,320
Like I said, even when Fuente
was here.

1399
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,480
But to have or if something
somebody was going to flip, they

1400
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:28,600
were flipping away from us.
But to have something, you know,

1401
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:32,040
good positive happen, it's like
the cherry on top.

1402
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:36,600
So I was excited about it.
Yeah, it was nice to see us.

1403
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:41,280
You know, other than the the
early flip, which I think a lot

1404
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,960
of us knew is, you know, once he
got offered that offer, he was

1405
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:48,480
going to take it.
You know, the the staff really

1406
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:51,760
holding this class together
despite a lot of adversity from

1407
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:56,960
for the team throughout the 24
season, you know, including,

1408
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,560
yeah, I think some may or may
not have known at the time, but

1409
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,640
the, you know, the the coach is
being shown the door.

1410
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:07,400
Holding that class together was
really important, especially

1411
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,640
getting to flip there at the end
with Jamari Deloach that I mean,

1412
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:17,360
I think, you know, this class
is, you know, composite about

1413
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,760
kind of where we've been.
But as far as average recruit

1414
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:25,880
rank, pretty, pretty solid, you
know, top 30 in, in the average

1415
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,000
recruit rank, so almost 10 spots
higher than the composite rank

1416
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,880
there.
So it's, it's, it's going to be

1417
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,880
interesting to see what, you
know, what we can do with that.

1418
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,480
But I'm excited about this
group.

1419
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:43,240
I think it's a, it's a good,
it's a deep group, even if it's

1420
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:48,040
not a ton of, you know, super
top in, you know, folks in the

1421
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,840
class.
Anything on this show and we

1422
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,480
know, I know you do not follow
recruiting as close as you once

1423
01:19:53,480 --> 01:19:55,000
did.
There no.

1424
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:56,920
For the sake of my mental
health, I do not.

1425
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,200
And half of these guys, half of
these guys are going to transfer

1426
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,560
out, you know, some are going to
get, you know, injured.

1427
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,680
Some of them don't perform well.
Like, I mean, you just you just

1428
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,120
don't even know.
Like so it's true, but it does

1429
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:09,960
seem like it's kind of in line
historically with, you know,

1430
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,280
kind of where V TS at from a
average recruit ranking

1431
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,120
perspective.
So if you bring them in, develop

1432
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,160
them, retain them, hopefully you
can kind of do something good

1433
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:18,800
with it.
So seems like a pretty good

1434
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,800
class.
Right, so Sheldon, if you want

1435
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,200
to go off camera and eat that
yummy food you were talking

1436
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:26,080
about for the next 5 to 6
minutes, feel free to so we

1437
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,760
don't have to ask you any more
questions, but I will ask Brian

1438
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,360
and tally this and I'll show me
with my own.

1439
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,640
Who is y'all's favorite
recruiter of this class?

1440
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:42,960
Tally, I'll I'll let you go,
but.

1441
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,800
You don't let me go.
I mean, the obvious speak is

1442
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:50,960
going to be Jeffrey Overton
junior for me, because for for

1443
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:52,920
Virginia Tech purposes, you know
what I'm saying?

1444
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,720
Like looking at a running back
like that and being able to

1445
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:59,680
recruit one out of high school,
We haven't done that well

1446
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,600
lately.
I know some people got excited

1447
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,240
because he got the big bump
towards the end, but he was he's

1448
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,960
been that the whole year.
So I mean, he is an explosive

1449
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:13,040
running back and I feel like he
is the kind of playmaker that we

1450
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,400
need at running back.
So definitely was excited about

1451
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:19,760
him, but just for selfish
purposes, probably my favorite

1452
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:24,240
recruit would be Michael
Matthews just because he's a A2

1453
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:25,840
sport guy.
He plays baseball.

1454
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:29,080
So me and my son have kind of
talked about him and watched him

1455
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,880
and I've watched his progression
and not just watched him in

1456
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:35,880
football but watched his his PBR
stuff in baseball as well.

1457
01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:41,200
There's some videos out there
about how he how he prepares for

1458
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,560
games and and turn baseball
tournaments and stuff.

1459
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:46,880
So this is that that's, you
know, pretty exciting to me.

1460
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:50,680
So I would probably say just
selfish, selfish purposes wise,

1461
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:54,320
probably Michael Matthews.
That's you, Siegel.

1462
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,000
You know, I like, I like Overton
as well, but to be a little

1463
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,920
different.
I'm going to go with a little

1464
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:06,000
little Halifax season in here.
I'm going to go with with AJ

1465
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:14,040
Brand at Irmo SC Pops played at
Curtis and Mize High School is

1466
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,600
in the Halifax County Sports
Hall of Fame.

1467
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:20,240
Emery Henry Hall of Fame.
Emery Henry, Hall of Fame, he's

1468
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:25,240
a, he's a Odak legend.
So, you know, coming from that

1469
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:28,280
pedigree, playing the the level
of talent that he's playing down

1470
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:34,080
there there in Irmo SC in
Columbia, that's a that's a big

1471
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,920
deal.
Took it wire to wire the state

1472
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,200
championship lost by, you know,
on a on a late field goal there

1473
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,080
at the end.
So that that was a tough one to

1474
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,000
swallow there.
But I mean, that's that's a guy

1475
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:49,040
that, you know, did it at the
highest level down there in his

1476
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,640
state and is, you know, coming
to Virginia Tech to improve on

1477
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:56,000
that.
Yep, and he was the Gatorade

1478
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,560
player of the year down there as
well.

1479
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,040
A JS for real held in for real
as well.

1480
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:03,960
I think bringing 2IN was very
smart, but I'm going to go for

1481
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,520
another 2 for here and I think
it's probably more exciting

1482
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:12,600
because of what they are and
it's Brett Clatterbaugh.

1483
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:14,640
Oh yeah.
Yeah, up.

1484
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:18,680
In up in Culpepper and then Noah
Chambers up at the map though,

1485
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:21,600
yeah, they're both 6 foot one.
Noah for me.

1486
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:26,720
Noah for me, but but both of
them are linebackers.

1487
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:31,520
They are linebackers.
There's 61622 fifteen 225

1488
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,560
already coming out.
They play the positions and

1489
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:37,480
we've been, we've been saying we
need linebackers.

1490
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,000
Yep.
Finally got Woodson in.

1491
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:41,080
We saw what happened.
I.

1492
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,920
Converted safeties we need not.
Converted safeties, right,

1493
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,680
linebackers.
So seeing those two guys and

1494
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,880
then seeing how high those two
guys are rated because both of

1495
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,880
those guys and people can talk
about linebackers.

1496
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:57,480
I consider linebackers 3.
So if you're getting a top 150

1497
01:23:57,480 --> 01:24:02,160
linebacker, you are getting a
legitimate D1 line, right?

1498
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,200
Platter ball is 68, Chambers is
89.

1499
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,000
Yeah.
They are both legitimate

1500
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:12,560
linebackers in this class
because you got middle, weak

1501
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,280
side, strong side, they're
linebackers.

1502
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:19,440
So I love that.
All right, now I'm going to ask

1503
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:23,400
this because we we've we've
mentioned our favorites and why.

1504
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:27,880
So who has to hit?
You look at this list and say if

1505
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,480
that MF for hits right there,
it's good things.

1506
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:35,680
Mine was, I mean, to take what
you said, no, no, no.

1507
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,360
To take what you said, mine
would be clatterball.

1508
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,160
Like just looking at it and
looking at what the staffer is.

1509
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:48,960
Brett Pryor is a defensive guy,
you know, work with linebackers.

1510
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,760
And then you talk about Marv
when he was in there being a

1511
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,960
linebacker guy and defensive
coordinator and we could not get

1512
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:57,440
linebackers.
You know what I'm saying?

1513
01:24:57,440 --> 01:25:02,000
We miss on these true
linebackers for the last couple

1514
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,800
of years and you're just waiting
to get somebody like a

1515
01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:13,400
Clatterball, honestly, like if
Clatterball can just give me

1516
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,640
some deck, some some Dax
Holyfield type performances.

1517
01:25:17,480 --> 01:25:19,880
He'll write his ticket at
Virginia Tech from now on.

1518
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,280
He don't even have to be great.
He just got to get a bloody nose

1519
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:27,520
and put a Band-Aid over it, like
make a couple tackles, you know,

1520
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,360
fill a gap.
You know what I'm saying?

1521
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:33,280
Like, but I, I really think like
if if we can hit on one of those

1522
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:40,200
linebackers like you said, But I
think it's mainly mainly mainly

1523
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,120
clatterball to me for what he
is, what he looks like.

1524
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,480
He looks like a Virginia Tech
guy.

1525
01:25:47,480 --> 01:25:50,720
You know what I'm saying?
He looks like what Hokey Nation

1526
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:56,120
would get behind for him to be a
great linebacker, middle

1527
01:25:56,120 --> 01:26:03,280
linebacker.
For obvious purposes of what we

1528
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:08,600
really need right now, I'm
hoping that Carter Stallard is,

1529
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:12,720
is somebody that we can rely on
on the offensive line.

1530
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,600
I mean, you can make the same
case for Nathaniel Wright as

1531
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:17,880
well.
You know, they're both kind of

1532
01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:23,680
position wise about the kind of
at the same level, you know,

1533
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:28,440
from a position standpoint.
I just think we we got to start

1534
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:31,000
hitting on some of these
offensive lineman and they were

1535
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,560
probably talking about a cycle
or two before they're going to

1536
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,520
see any sort of significant
playing time.

1537
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,600
Just that that's the way
offensive line works.

1538
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:42,080
You're not going to get a a ton
of true freshman.

1539
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:48,520
You're getting significant snaps
in games, but I I need those two

1540
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:52,960
guys to have been hits and good
evaluations by this staff

1541
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,720
because we're going to need them
in the near future all.

1542
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:58,120
Right.
I'm going to give you all mine

1543
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:02,640
now, and it's because I think
it's the disrespect he was

1544
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:07,240
given.
It's Christian Evans, a man won

1545
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:10,960
the defensive player at the UA
camp back in the summer.

1546
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:14,360
He didn't get bumps.
He didn't get more looks.

1547
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,280
I think he can hit he's Six 2
1/2.

1548
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:21,640
He's coming in at about two
75285 probably can grow into the

1549
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:25,600
two 95300 range and I think it's
more if you hit on him, it's

1550
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,880
that chip because I think if he
gets the opportunity, I think

1551
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:33,360
everyday somebody like JC
prices, remember you beat all

1552
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,720
those five stars asses in those
drills.

1553
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,080
They didn't give you love.
He's going to come in with a

1554
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:42,760
chip and I think if he hits,
it's I think chess.

1555
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:45,480
Virginia Tech type player right
goes out, whoops, everybody's

1556
01:27:45,480 --> 01:27:48,400
ass at the practice.
Don't get the respect.

1557
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:50,720
Oh, he's going Virginia Tech
Don't don't don't give him the

1558
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,120
four-star.
Don't bump him any higher.

1559
01:27:54,480 --> 01:28:02,760
Christian Evans is not let's go
off that and the bowl season so

1560
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,880
fucked up, y'all, and I'm being
very honest with this.

1561
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,480
I didn't do any research.
We're going to Charlotte, which

1562
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,320
means a lot of people are going
to get to go.

1563
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:16,040
Mayo Mayo baby.
Mayo Bowl Brent Prime might get

1564
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:18,880
dumped mayonnaise on his head,
which would be hilarious.

1565
01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:24,560
Minnesota has nine guys in the
portals and six guys already

1566
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,440
opted out, including I believe
they're starting left tackle who

1567
01:28:27,440 --> 01:28:30,160
went to Ohio State.
So we ain't the only one losing

1568
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:31,800
it to thank you.
Lord.

1569
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:36,440
Yeah, but I mean, is there
anything Shelton?

1570
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:39,680
I mean, I mean, I watch some of
their games, their physical

1571
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:44,080
football team, they like to push
it down field, but it's so tough

1572
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:45,960
because you don't know who's
playing.

1573
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,920
Yeah, I don't even know who's on
the team.

1574
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:50,880
If their whole team was there.
I'm not.

1575
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,800
Watching.
One, I've not watched one game

1576
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,440
with Minnesota, not no
disrespect to them, I just

1577
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,720
they're not a team that I've
paid attention to this hey.

1578
01:28:59,720 --> 01:29:01,480
Where's Jason?
He's watched at least 2.

1579
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,000
Yeah.
Why are you playing Princeton

1580
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,880
about your own?
Yeah, I don't know, man.

1581
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,320
So it'll be interesting though.
It'll be interesting to see.

1582
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:12,280
It is someone we've ever.
Played.

1583
01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:16,280
I just do not need us to go and
do what we did against Maryland

1584
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,120
a couple of years ago.
Please God, I can't take that.

1585
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:24,880
I, I, I think the, the rosters
are a little bit more comparable

1586
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:28,760
in terms of losses than it was
in that Maryland matchup.

1587
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,600
Now, I think offensive line is
going to be such a question mark

1588
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,280
because I think the guys that
we're going to plug in have some

1589
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,240
potential, but they don't have
the, the, the experience,

1590
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:44,440
experience and reps to really
feel like you can lean on them.

1591
01:29:44,440 --> 01:29:46,360
I think Garrett's going to be
fine.

1592
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,280
Not going to be.
Fine at, at, at, at left tackle.

1593
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,040
Brody's going to be fine.
You might see Ganem.

1594
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:58,840
I'm most worried about centre.
So if, if, if, if Centre is at

1595
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,480
least solid, then I think we've
got a decent chance of of being

1596
01:30:02,480 --> 01:30:03,600
competitive.
If.

1597
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,800
If it's not, then all bets are
off.

1598
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,120
Shelton, anything on them?
Nope, nothing.

1599
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,120
I mean, it's, it's it, it here's
the upside.

1600
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:18,640
It's going to be on Friday night
after the new year.

1601
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,920
So we all will be off work,
right?

1602
01:30:22,440 --> 01:30:26,480
And that's the one upside.
I think Robbie's going to go

1603
01:30:26,480 --> 01:30:29,520
down because his wife's
grandfather can put it up there,

1604
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:32,120
went to Minnesota and as a Hall
of Famer.

1605
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:34,360
So it might be tents in his
house.

1606
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,360
I mean, if somebody offered me a
ticket, maybe.

1607
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:43,280
I know prices like people like
$145.00 and it's like no.

1608
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:49,480
I know I get this point, but I
mean so they die for real for

1609
01:30:49,480 --> 01:30:53,200
real.
Yeah, but we don't know.

1610
01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:54,640
We don't know what they have
left.

1611
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:58,320
We don't know what's there.
So like, I think now what bowl

1612
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:03,560
season is get your drink, get
your snacks and just enjoy

1613
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:05,880
watching football because it's
cold outside.

1614
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:10,240
You can't do anything.
Me and Brian, we, we, we buried,

1615
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:11,680
I went to Kings Dominion
Saturday.

1616
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:13,520
I think Brian went to Busch
Gardens Saturday.

1617
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,080
It was cold.
I was out there for five hours.

1618
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,560
I was cold at the end of the
day.

1619
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,920
So just stay inside, watch
football, drink very good food.

1620
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:28,240
Yeah, I'm alright with that.
Exactly first, but this is the

1621
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:32,640
first meeting of these two
programs, and both have been

1622
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,880
playing football since the
1890s.

1623
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,160
Hey, fuck a Gopher.
Go Hokies.

1624
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:39,960
Fuck that little bastard
something.

1625
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:44,480
But now, as always, even though
we do not have a musical melody

1626
01:31:44,480 --> 01:31:47,280
this week, because the man
wanted to take some time off and

1627
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,520
it was fine.
He done 12/13 for us.

1628
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:56,000
We are going to pick the first
four playoff games because A, it

1629
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,520
happens this Friday.
It's some intriguing matchups

1630
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,320
all across.
It's basically going to be on

1631
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:05,240
your TV Friday night, all day
Saturday at the home fields.

1632
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:10,960
The ticket prices are ranging.
Notre Dame's going like 475 a

1633
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,240
ticket, Penn State as cheap as
60.

1634
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,840
And people like this is stupid.
Why is Penn State going so

1635
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:18,680
cheap?
And I think I've heard most of

1636
01:32:18,680 --> 01:32:21,280
people say, do you know where
State College, PA is?

1637
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:23,520
You think Blacksburg is tough to
get to?

1638
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:29,680
Yeah, at least an Interstate
runs a few miles away from

1639
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:33,840
Blacksburg, so we are going to
make picks here.

1640
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:36,720
We'll go in Order of the Game
Friday night.

1641
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,960
We are picking against the
spread everybody you see on the

1642
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,280
screen here, along with our
contributing rider, Miranda and

1643
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,480
our music man, Jason.
So where are we starting?

1644
01:32:46,480 --> 01:32:49,680
Brian Siegler.
We are starting at South Bend,

1645
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:53,560
buddy.
And this, this, you know, we,

1646
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,080
when we talked about the the
potential good matchups, you

1647
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,880
know, this, this was I think
when we mentioned because we

1648
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:03,080
wanted to see Notre Dame get a
home game.

1649
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:05,960
We want to see Penn State get a
home game just to create some

1650
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:10,000
intriguing December matchups.
We got it, It's here.

1651
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:14,920
I think this is going to be
closer than what Vegas has.

1652
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:19,360
They've got a 7 1/2 spread there
with Notre Dame favorite.

1653
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,320
I think it's going to be a
little less than a touchdown.

1654
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:24,960
I think I think the Hoosiers are
going to come to play a little

1655
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:28,280
bit.
So I'm going to take the

1656
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,320
Hoosiers here.
I think it's still going to be a

1657
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,840
Notre Dame victory, but it's not
going to be over a touchdown.

1658
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,400
All right.
I'm opposite Joe on this.

1659
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,520
I think it's going to be an
entertaining game.

1660
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:46,840
But I think what we saw with
Indiana against Ohio State, you

1661
01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:51,280
saw when it went, when they got
out talented, it just didn't

1662
01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,200
work.
Now saying that I'm taking Notre

1663
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:55,680
Dame, I'll lay the seven and a
half.

1664
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:59,360
I think it's about a 10 point
game somewhere, 3121.

1665
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,240
I think it's entertaining on
Friday night.

1666
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,960
But I think for Indiana and I
think we're going to see this

1667
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:11,080
weekend across the spectrum,
what do the underdogs do to win

1668
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:14,840
these games?
I always go back to Oklahoma,

1669
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:18,880
Boise State 18 years ago and
what they did, Hail Mary or

1670
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:23,560
excuse me, Statue of Liberty,
shovel pass, all that hook and

1671
01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:27,200
ladder, all that crazy shit for
Indiana to win this game.

1672
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:30,880
I don't think they can.
But if they do fake punts, fake

1673
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:35,320
field goals, wild trick plays,
and I think that goes across

1674
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:39,200
with the exception of the last
game, with the exception of the

1675
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:42,200
last two games, the first two
games, I think that's how the

1676
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,800
underdogs can pull the upset.
Shelton, what do you got in this

1677
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:49,880
game?
I think Notre Dame will win, but

1678
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:54,160
I do have Indiana to cover.
I just, I don't trust Indiana

1679
01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:55,480
for that performance against
Iowa State.

1680
01:34:55,480 --> 01:34:57,640
And I think Ohio State's a
pretty, pretty comparable team

1681
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:01,320
to Notre Dame.
Tally.

1682
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:05,200
Oh yeah, I'm going Notre Dame.
I mean, they don't get Rudy on

1683
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:10,680
the sideline to cheer my own and
go ahead and two touchdown

1684
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,880
victory. 2 touchdowns. 2
touchdowns.

1685
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:14,000
Is it going to be?
Entertaining though.

1686
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:15,880
Is it going to be an ugly 2
touchdown win?

1687
01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:23,320
I don't know, man, I, I just, I
was OK with Indiana until Robbie

1688
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,160
kept talking about him.
What was he called them, paper

1689
01:35:26,160 --> 01:35:28,360
tigers or something?
Paper Tigers.

1690
01:35:28,680 --> 01:35:31,160
Yeah, so I mean, he got that in
my head.

1691
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:33,880
I went to sleep with that on and
then they got blew out that week

1692
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,600
and so I got no confidence in
them.

1693
01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:40,200
Thanks, Robbie. 11-1 team, no
confidence.

1694
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:45,280
Hey, Miranda's riding with you
there, and so is Jason.

1695
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,000
So Sheldon and I out there on an
island a little bit.

1696
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,560
By the way, game time
temperature.

1697
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:54,400
Now both of these teams are from
Indiana, so obviously there is

1698
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:58,840
not a huge weather factor there.
28 seven mile an hour winds.

1699
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:02,760
There is a slight chance of snow
showers Friday night in South

1700
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:06,480
and Yep.
Yep, the the advantage that they

1701
01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:11,320
have is is just just the just
the home atmosphere in general,

1702
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:14,880
not necessarily the weather.
Right, Hundred percent, 100%.

1703
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:19,000
All righty.
Next we go to State College, the

1704
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:23,520
SMU Mustangs versus the Penn
State Nittany Lions.

1705
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:29,840
This one it going to be cold and
Dallas, which I know it can get

1706
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,200
cold.
It's going to be 26 at game

1707
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:35,720
time.
Kick is going to be about it's

1708
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,800
going to be 12 mile an hour
winds.

1709
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,600
Penn State laying 8 1/2.
Brian, what do you think on this

1710
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:46,440
one?
Mountain cold is different than

1711
01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:52,600
Plains cold, so for that I I'm
going to give Penn State the

1712
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,040
advantage, but I'm not going to
give them 8 1/2.

1713
01:36:55,360 --> 01:37:01,240
I got SMU losing but it's going
to be on a late field goal.

1714
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:07,440
All righty, definitely different
in the the weather with the cold

1715
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:12,120
and the of of where you live,
because certain because 31 place

1716
01:37:12,120 --> 01:37:16,040
ain't 30 the other.
I think 8 1/2 is too much.

1717
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,080
I think what SMU did just a
couple weeks ago down in

1718
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:22,320
Charlotte proved they're going
to be able to handle a physical

1719
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:26,320
defensive line, which Penn State
has, which Clemson has.

1720
01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:30,720
Similar to what I said with
Indiana, they're going to have

1721
01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:32,400
to pull some tricks out of the
bag.

1722
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:40,320
But I this is like, of all the
games where it's you, you, you

1723
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,320
look and say, well, they don't
have a shot against them.

1724
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:46,480
I think SMU does have a shot.
I really do.

1725
01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:49,080
I think SMU has a shot to pull
off the upset.

1726
01:37:50,120 --> 01:37:54,040
James Franklin's record in in
basically ranked games.

1727
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:58,280
It's not great.
And also the big thing that went

1728
01:37:58,280 --> 01:38:00,560
out there this week, I know you
all saw it.

1729
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:05,120
The backup quarterback is gone.
They do not have a backup

1730
01:38:05,120 --> 01:38:07,080
quarterback.
So if Drew Alar were to get

1731
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:10,760
popped, I don't know who it is
because the backup, the guy is

1732
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:16,480
effectively the effectively
thought he was going to get a

1733
01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:19,640
shot next year.
Jim going to the game.

1734
01:38:19,640 --> 01:38:20,680
Nice.
What?

1735
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:22,240
Wrap up, Jim, don't freeze out
there.

1736
01:38:22,520 --> 01:38:24,480
But I think SMU does have a
chance.

1737
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:28,360
Go ahead, Shelton.
I'll take I'll take Penn State's

1738
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,440
going to win, but I do think SMU
will cover same same stories

1739
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:34,760
last time.
Yeah, I'm following along with

1740
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:38,520
everybody else.
I think, I think Penn State will

1741
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:43,800
get this game, but I mean SMU
seem to be resilient and if they

1742
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:45,440
lose it's going to be a close
loss.

1743
01:38:47,920 --> 01:38:51,880
Miranda's riding with us, Jason
out on an island.

1744
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,120
Again, though, I like this
round.

1745
01:38:58,120 --> 01:39:01,040
I think you're getting these
type of matchups in this type of

1746
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,880
environment with playoff stakes
on the line.

1747
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,000
It's so fucking cool.
It is like this.

1748
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:11,640
This is the thing in in in the
thing that I appreciate most

1749
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:14,520
about the current playoff
structure.

1750
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:17,400
Like there, there's plenty of
things that we can complain one

1751
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,080
way or the other about, but this
is the one element of it that

1752
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:24,560
they got right. 100% almost no,
no debate, right?

1753
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:27,560
So right.
I love that so.

1754
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:32,320
All righty, let's go down to
Austin, TX where we ain't gonna

1755
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,400
look at the weather cuz it's
sick, cuz it's gonna be like 60��

1756
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,920
to kick off, maybe a chance of
actually no chance of showers

1757
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:42,080
there. 60�� to kick off on
Saturday afternoon.

1758
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:44,520
So it's going to be nice and
lovely.

1759
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:46,240
It's going to feel just like a
normal fall day.

1760
01:39:47,400 --> 01:39:51,880
Clemson goes.
Clemson coming in, big win with

1761
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:56,000
the ACC championship.
Texas Lane, 11 1/2.

1762
01:39:56,120 --> 01:40:00,960
Brian, what do you think?
How come, man?

1763
01:40:01,120 --> 01:40:05,040
How come?
I still don't know what to think

1764
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:09,440
about this Clemson team.
They've they've shown some good,

1765
01:40:09,440 --> 01:40:11,480
they've shown some bad.
They've shown some ugly.

1766
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,880
I think if you don't have a
couple blunders from SMU at the

1767
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:19,560
start of that game, that goes a
different way.

1768
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,200
I think Texas is a little bit
better than SMU.

1769
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,680
So I won't I'm going to take the
Longhorns here.

1770
01:40:26,120 --> 01:40:30,840
It it's barely going to creep
over that 11 1/2, but I've I've

1771
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,200
got them clearing it just enough
all.

1772
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,040
Righty.
I don't know.

1773
01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:36,720
You can ask Robbie if I can put
that up there.

1774
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:38,440
Brian, how long you get a
trophy?

1775
01:40:38,440 --> 01:40:40,960
Got to recruit first of all
right there.

1776
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:50,880
Horns down 11 1/2, way too much
Texas has not been right for did

1777
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:53,880
not look right versus Georgia.
That was not the Texas team I

1778
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:57,880
had seen all year.
I want to just outright call

1779
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:02,680
this I think Dabo because he's
got in there, he's got in their

1780
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:05,720
fucking heads that damn, what's
the name of the place?

1781
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:07,760
The church.
He's got the church shit going

1782
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,520
on in their head.
Don't know by believe in you

1783
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:14,800
y'all can't win.
I think Clemson shocks the world

1784
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:16,560
pulls the upset Saturday
afternoon.

1785
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:18,960
So give me the 11 1/2 Clemson
outright win.

1786
01:41:20,240 --> 01:41:22,600
I think Texas big.
Texas big.

1787
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:24,640
There we go.
I'm not.

1788
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,640
I don't think Clemson wins the
game, but I think that they

1789
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:34,600
don't lose by 12 points.
So I took Clemson, all right?

1790
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:39,960
Miranda rode with with Curtis
and Tally, Jason riding with

1791
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:43,800
with me and Sheldon here.
All right, last one.

1792
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:49,520
It's a big one.
You know, of course, that's it.

1793
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:53,640
They're all big.
The venues are all big, the game

1794
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,520
is all big.
The atmospheres are going to be

1795
01:41:55,520 --> 01:42:02,360
big in the Shoe Saturday night.
Columbus, OH, 25�� chance of snow

1796
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:05,920
showers, I believe, if I'm not
mistaken.

1797
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:10,680
Just let me confirm that.
Yeah, chance of snow showers

1798
01:42:11,440 --> 01:42:16,040
there.
Tennessee, but Tennessee is in

1799
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:18,440
the mountains, so there's your
weather not affecting it.

1800
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:24,960
Ohio State lane 7.
Who's winning this one, Brian?

1801
01:42:25,480 --> 01:42:29,320
Not giving the hook here made
this one really hard to pick.

1802
01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,600
If that was 7 and a hook, it
would have been Tennessee.

1803
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,440
No problem.
I toiled on this one, but I

1804
01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:41,680
ultimately stuck with Tennessee.
I think it's going to be a a a

1805
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:43,600
very tight game.
I don't know if it'll come down

1806
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,080
to a field goal, 6 points,
something like that, but I think

1807
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:47,560
they'll do just enough to keep
it close.

1808
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,480
I'm exact opposite of you, I
think.

1809
01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:54,200
Again, entertaining game, I
think.

1810
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:57,320
Is that what I gave you?
You gave me Tennessee.

1811
01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:59,360
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm going back to my thought

1812
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:04,280
process here.
But two good teams, man.

1813
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:06,560
I gave it to you.
Well, we're going to go Tuesday.

1814
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:09,640
But then, you know, they told us
that COVID was going to commit

1815
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:11,520
at 9:00, so we had to push it
back a day.

1816
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:17,160
So you know.
But I've I've got the receipts

1817
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,800
if we need receipts.
You do you and, and now that you

1818
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:24,720
put it up there, it's like I'm
I'm kind of where Brian was. 7

1819
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:27,600
is just not enough to lay.
These are two good teams, 2 good

1820
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:32,120
defensive teams, two teams with
firepower, 2 teams with damn

1821
01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:34,800
good running backs.
Somebody tried to tell me

1822
01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:37,560
Tennessee's running backs better
than Henderson.

1823
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:39,720
Maybe it's just my Virginia
ties.

1824
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:41,600
I think Henderson's better than
the tip from Tennessee, but

1825
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:46,880
Tennessee, Ohio State wins.
Tennessee covers in a war in the

1826
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,200
cold.
Sheldon Give.

1827
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:55,960
Me the Bucks.
Oh, give me the bucks.

1828
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,960
Oh.
Miranda said.

1829
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,280
Buckeyes.
Jason, the Halifax Boys.

1830
01:44:03,360 --> 01:44:06,200
Run.
How's that?

1831
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:10,480
I think it's going to be some
entertaining games regardless.

1832
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:12,960
Again, it's great to see you in
these atmospheres.

1833
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:16,200
I think that's what we've wanted
for years, and now we're getting

1834
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,320
it in the highest of stakes of
game.

1835
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:22,120
So is anything has anybody else
committed to make me, you know,

1836
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:24,720
get off the ledge?
I think, I think we're.

1837
01:44:24,760 --> 01:44:26,120
Good.
But I feel a whole lot better

1838
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:30,680
than I did when we press record
and and go live right before the

1839
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:32,720
Koval announcement came out, so.
Right.

1840
01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,720
Yeah.
Powerful, powerful guy.

1841
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:38,520
Looks good.
Looks good, yeah.

1842
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,400
He's going to be playing safety
and not nickel like he was

1843
01:44:41,400 --> 01:44:43,440
playing this last year with
Clemson.

1844
01:44:43,440 --> 01:44:46,760
Been injured this year.
So I think it's going to be a a

1845
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:50,280
more natural fit for him.
He looked really good at Clemson

1846
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:51,680
when he was playing a true
safety.

1847
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:54,920
So let's do it.
Let's hope so.

1848
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:56,920
All right.
Well, with that, that does wrap

1849
01:44:56,920 --> 01:45:00,120
up this episode of the Boundary
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1850
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,040
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1851
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:04,000
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1852
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1853
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1870
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