POLI 300: Great Leaders of Men (Right Now)

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Typically the boundary Corner
podcast likes to stick to

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sports.
So what we know and what we love

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but this issue isn't political
in nature.

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It's a matter of the basic human
right to life.

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If you are saying it's horrible
and innocent black man was

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killed.
But destroying property has to

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stop.
Listen to that phrase.

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And then say these words, it's
horrible that property is being

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destroyed.
The killing innocent black men

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and women has to stop We stand
in solidarity with the black

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community and wanting to put it
into systemic racism in the

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United States.
If you want to do more, please

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consider a donation to an
organization such as equal.

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Justice initiative is working
hard every day in this fight.

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Please join me in observing a
nine.

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Second moment of silence in the
memory of George.

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Floyd
Welcome back to the boundary

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Corner podcast.
My name is Curtis Wilson, I'm

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Brian seagull.
How's it going buddy?

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Well buddy, you tell me you
college professor classrooms at

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8:30 on a Thursday night and
you're ready to go to the bar

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and they're just keep on hanging
out, keep on chatting.

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Yeah.
Yeah, it was one of those where

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he probably over planned, what
he thought he could get in a

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class and then he kind of got
stuck and he's like, I gotta get

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through this, we got a lab on
Thursday, so here we are or

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those awesome things.
Where 15 years ago you would

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have been like, itchy like did
come on I'm gonna go out and

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have some fun now.
It's Already pulling pulling a

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pretty long long day as it were
coming off a little bit of a

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stomach bug this morning.
So, Definitely would have liked

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it to wrap up sooner than later
but here we are running a little

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bit late but hey, you do what
you got to do, right?

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100% man.
You have a good weekend, dude.

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It was pretty good man was
pretty good.

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We stuck around here did a
little this a little that

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actually went over and hang out
with the neighbors for a little

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while on Sunday.
They they got one of the

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above-ground pools putting their
backyard.

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So had the kids in there
enjoying that and you know,

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sipping the few cocktails having
some brisket.

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So those are good time but you
do this weekend.

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I worked my butt off this
weekend.

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The father-in-law is putting.
He wants electricity in his

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shed.
Ed and so did he, you know he

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works out there he made us a
picnic table him and my wife

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worked on that but he needed a
trench dog.

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Lucky for me, he got put on
trash Duty.

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Yeah, trench Duty lucky for me.
His neighbor, who's doing the

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electrical work, was able to get
a ditch, which so the majority

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of it, they got cut with that.
But the little crevices about

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1:00, I'm cutting the grass.
Saturday, jammed, his music

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having fun ring rings.
He's my father-in-law.

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Hey, what's up?
I need you.

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All right, I'll be right over.
And then subsequent part of the

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day, Saturday, part of the day
Sunday.

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I'm digging trenches with a
pickaxe.

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Shovels post hole digger?
So, needless to say, I got some

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good workouts in this weekend, I
had some cocktails with the

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neighbors on the cul-de-sac,
well Saturday night, dinner club

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and but just a nice normal
weekend went to the liquor

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store, start reloading The
Liquor Cabinet.

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All right.
Talking up, got to, but rolling

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into summer, rolling into,
hopefully a college football.

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Season got a stock up, get
everything back as it needs to

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be.
So, you know, somebody says they

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want a certain cocktail.
You're ready to roll.

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Absolutely, man.
That's what it is.

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So yeah, the thing at the
covid-19 crisis is I was

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starting to build the bar up
back in February and March and

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then when it came, I hadn't been
to the liquor store but you know

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things are changing.
Day for the better.

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Thank goodness and got there got
some Gin some rum and some vodka

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got to go back and get
definitely a few.

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Oh and some ginger beer was
making, by the way.

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Got a new cocktail for you to
try.

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Southern Fried Moscow.
Mule replace your lime juice

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with limey.
Very good cocktail.

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Okay.
All right, buddy.

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Well yes sir, it was.
Well let's get to it, man.

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In the last.
Even days since Sunday.

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The Hokies have had three
football commitments.

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Oh man, we're getting into their
first before we get into a few

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other things.
Let's start with the first one.

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Which was the Friday that we
dropped our podcast.

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We knew it was coming with
Jalen, but you know, we just,

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you know, you got deadlines, you
got to keep a schedule going, so

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we missed it, but we missed it.
But we knew it was coming down

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the pike, and we were You know
about his confidence.

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One can be heading into into
that recording session but you

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never want to put something in
the car to head of the horse as

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it is.
So we kept that out last time

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and here we are.
Now we can celebrate this

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go-round so we do say it.
I'll say it man.

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Brothers play for Virginia Tech.
Always have always will Jalen

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Stroman, 612 me, I think you
should be classified as an

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athlete at 190 out of
patriotism.

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At high school notes Ville
composite 3-star. 24/7 has him

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three right on the verge of a
for obviously younger brother of

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poke.
Great NFL Guy, Greg strowman.

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It's a hell of a land in state
player.

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Keeps the brotherhood's going
and Brian you picked this tape

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out.
What do we get in this guy?

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All right, so the big thing that
we're going to talk about with,

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is this comparable, so he does
not compare to Greg.

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He Compares probably more to
Terrell Edmunds.

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Allow anybody else?
He's a versatile guy.

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He's a guy.
That is a natural safety, but

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can play Corner in a pinch.
He's a guy that can fly around

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but also lay a thumping on you.
So, I mean, I think just that

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sighs coming out of high school.
I think, as you said, Composite

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3 star but he's going to be,
he's a guy that's trending

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closer to a 4.
If you look at the actual

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measurables and potentially, you
know, a consensus for.

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But I think some of the
competition that he played in

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high school and things of that
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Some of the more rivals in the
ESPN or not giving him quite the

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look that I think a 24/7 is so I
think that's probably one of the

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downsides of the, of the
composite ranking here being a

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lot lower than what his 24/7
score.

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Or is I think ultimately 24/7.
He's going to be kind of that

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tweener between a 3 and a 4 and
that's probably where his actual

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skill level is like I said he's
a versatile player before you

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even talk about what he can do
on the offensive side of the

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ball.
So it's nice to have another

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brother, but it's also nice to
get a guy like this.

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And again, another Trend that
we're seeing, man, versatile

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players on offense, versatile,
players in the secondary on

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defense.
Yep, you mentioned it before

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something.
J Hamm and it seems like that

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he's In for, as he wants guys,
that could possibly do multiple

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things which to me, you know,
some people say we'll get the

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guy that can do this for best.
When you're bringing in the

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versatile guys, with where we
are on the depth you figure out

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in the first year year and a
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You know what Jaden looks like.
He'd be a great Rover but on the

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other hand, hey wait a minute
and he can press, he's got the

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body man, let's put him at,
let's put him corner and let him

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physical some guys up.
So really like that.

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But hey, Brian the hope.
He's weren't done, buddy.

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No, they were not.
So second on the list there.

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We got a few days later, chance,
black commitment.

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Absolutely chance.
Blacks out of the PowerHouse

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down in South Carolina, dormant
3 star running back.

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But you look at his tape, he's
like another one of your

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favorite guys, that's on the
current roster Blackshear, he is

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a 0w.
He is an offensive weapon.

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A lot of folks kind of
questioning.

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You see a speed is versatility.
How is he a three-star?

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And I felt like I've read
somewhere and run quickly from

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wrong but he hasn't went to many
camps.

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He's kind of not out there, not
promote himself.

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He's just kind of like I'm
playing football.

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I'm going to go.
Yeah, that's a big thing.

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Especially when you're talking
about a Robbins rating that's

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going to be lower.
If they're not in those camps

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saying with ESPN to a point
also, N is not.

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They don't update their rankings
very often.

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So once your kind of, you know,
pigeon-holed and less, you see

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some really big UPS in your
offer list.

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You're probably not going to see
a significant bump in your

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ranking.
So but yeah looking at the tape

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we're talking about a guy that
looks similar to what blacks

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years bringing to us, you know,
hopefully this year once he gets

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that waiver I mean you got a guy
that can catch catch the ball

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in.
He can run routes but he's also

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good between the tackles, he can
make guys missing the whole, he

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can make the linebacker Miss and
get to the next level.

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So these are all big things for
us and we're talking about a guy

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that can make some plays will
probably use them, some in the

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Jet Sweep game.
You probably even early on his

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career even if he doesn't come
out and having every down roll.

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Yeah, I'm not say the one thing
I can't watch film.

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Like you, I don't have that.
I'm there, certain things, I

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miss is just being a casual fan,
but one thing that you do, Not

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miss on tape, is this kid has
some Wheels.

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Man, this guy has some speed.
I'd love to see what he clocks.

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I'm guessing around in the 44,
but what I noticed a lot was the

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cut if you noticed at least,
what I was noticing again.

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It's not my trained eye brown,
but they were running some of

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those sides own plays and that's
what I call them.

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They're like the Zone read, but
it's essentially he staying

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parallel.
And then, as soon as a hole

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opens up cut, and when you see
him make that cut, he's not

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afraid of contact.
Numerous times on his film.

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Like there's a guy in front of
him.

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He's like, all right dude, boom.
He does not shy away from that

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when he sees his Lane he goes so
tells me very, very, very good.

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At reading the lanes making
decisions.

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And again, I'm still trying to
figure out how he's a three-star

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than not going to camp and kind
of keeping a low profile.

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Yeah, it looks like we're
probably what you're talking

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about is something like a an
angle or an outside outside

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zone, so where the target is
going to be a little bit wider

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than what you see with your
Inside Zone, which is the common

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element of Zone read offense.
So you know, I think I think

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what like you're saying there,
he's got the speed to get to the

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edge but he can make you miss.
He's got good wiggle but he's

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got Breakaway speed to.
So I think you know he's got all

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the skills whether he's able to
do all of that, in the elite

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level is yet to be seen, but you
got to love the skill set that

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he's bringing in absolutely but
Brian, we weren't done, but we

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were not Done.
No, we weren't matthäus Carol

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weeks, idn at a Gilman.
That's a stretch for stretch.

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Gilman pretty good.
High school football program up

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in Baltimore, Maryland, 63 220.
He commits Sunday and I got it.

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I'm gonna go ahead on the Shelf.
This guy, whoever did his video

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that was crisp.
And you know, this guy again,

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three-star guy.
But you see the tape and you

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hear about some of the other
things he does.

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I think he's a guy that could
wind up before if we play a

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season.
Yeah, definitely, I'm looking at

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the tape.
I mean, you know, he's he's

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really got some good things is
very to the table and it's

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really going right along with
some of the things we've seen

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TNT start to focus on.
He's got both height and reach.

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He's quick off the ball.
He's got the ability to bend and

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work leverage which probably
comes from the wrestling

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background that he has.
And as soon as I hear wrestling

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background, I'm thinking great
leverage and really good

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conditioning, and it's two
things you like to see in the

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defensive end 100%.
I'm also think, I think you

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think leverage also think
tackling, you think the way

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these guys when they practice,
you know, and they're being

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taught rustling, you have to
learn how to get to God down

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right now.
So, we have his video

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highlights, he literally like
flip the guy so, but again, it's

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he kind of has the whole it's,
you know, he's athletic.

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He's already got a good frame.
He's already got a little weight

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on that frame.
He can bend he's a multi-sport

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athlete.
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where you feel.
If he even puts on 20 pounds

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with that wrestling background,
it's not going to take him long

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to get in playing shape it to
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and then trying to figure out
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Because essentially, those guys
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and gain weight to make classes
and stuff, you know, 18 offers,

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you know, Boston College,
Louisville pit, South Carolina

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to name a few But again, I'm
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defensive end.
Brian were taken, nobody's under

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six foot to know.
So, we're going with, we're

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going with length and we're
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quick First Step Off the Ball.
Which I mean kind of Falls in

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line with what we've been
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we finished out.
The, the 2020 class and kind of

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we're recruiting has been
trending ever since then

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absolutely man.
So three big pickups, a few To

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go, people were nervous.
Oh God, we're going to be in the

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70s again.
Oh God, we're going to be at the

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bottom of the ACC again.
Boo, boo, boo, 42 now 43.

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We're creeping up with some very
good prospects on the horizon.

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If it attentively go, the Hokies
way.

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All right.
Yeah, I'll be the big thing,

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buddy.
Is that, you know, when you look

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at recruiting, a lot of the
people in front of us, weren't

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just based on the average core
weren't even ahead of us.

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Some of them were behind this,
but they just had a volume

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volume helps, and we're getting
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So, the volume is definitely,
finally, working in our favor

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here, with getting three big
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coming on the heels of the Jalen
Jones recruitment that happened

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just before last episode.
So pretty big stuff.

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Very nice and definitely
trending upward.

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I ate Brian The boys are coming
back to town, baby.

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Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.

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All right, voluntary workouts
can commence in Blacksburg into

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this week that's what starting
strength and conditioning looks

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like.
They are playing it very safe

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with small cohorts, following
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guidelines.
I don't think me you or any of

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our fans have probably any
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And then what Mark Rogers said,
just and again, makes Common

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Sense.
The first and foremost priority

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is the Health and Welfare of the
student-athletes, but Brian

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something happened today.
I hope you called it on the

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news.
What's going to happen Friday?

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I did not catch a what's
happening, Friday, buddy.

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We're going to phase to phase
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All right?
So these everybody except for

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for downtown r-va and Nova,
right?

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That's it.
So that kind of tells me that

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areas like the locker room more,
common areas, probably the

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workout facilities itself are,
probably going to be opening

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sooner rather than later.
Because if you cut the read the

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articles about what's going on,
they're going to be doing these

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workouts in the beam Our barn,
which is a great thing to have,

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they can get the doors open.
So you kind of have more of an

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open space than the indoor space
to protect these kids.

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I'm sure there's they're going
to be getting the test talking

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about 25 to 30 guys, coming
back, which a lot of people are

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saying they think it's going to
be the guys in Blacksburg.

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That makes sense.
They're the easiest to access,

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they're the easiest to get the
test see if anybody has it if so

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quarantine.
Mm.

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And is the guys start coming
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If you clear set, a timeframe
for you to come on in.

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So I think getting the guys in
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quicker is going to happen
sooner rather than later.

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It's just kind of Common Sense.
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And I think that's going to be a
good thing for for everyone

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involved.
I know there's other schools

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that are working on similar
timetables right now whether

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it's a week ahead of us are week
behind us.

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I'm pretty.
I know pretty much.

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No one was allowed until
yesterday June 1st I guess the

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earliest that that anyone could
do anything based on what the

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NCAA had in place, but now that
we're starting to open up some

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of these avenues for getting
kids back in the weight room.

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I think most of it at least
initially is going to be those

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voluntary type activities and
then we can maybe work towards

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some more organized or quasi
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Once we start getting more guys
back on campus and in the NCAA

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starts to evaluate what that's
looking like.

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So yeah, I think that's going to
be the big pieces, probably

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really over the next three weeks
is how the school's come back,

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how the schools are doing it.
And then, I think what me and

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you kind of stated we've been
kind of hanging around that is I

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think you're going to see two
separate training theories.

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I think you're going to have a
period in July two or three

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weeks and then potentially
either a three-week fall camp

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for a full fall Camp.
I think they're going to let the

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I think they're going to open up
some Avenues to where it's going

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to be not going to say fair, but
it's just going to be more just

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more just just smarter like let
the kids kind of build up to get

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there.
And they're normally working out

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all the time.
They have been doing this

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independently, but not around
their strength and conditioning

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coaches, something else and you
talk about the different

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situations in coach Fuente made
a great point about this thing.

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It's not a uniform situation.
Every Single place on every

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single campus has different
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There can be no one set way that
it has to be done.

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And I think that's the truth
because I'm sure there are some

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schools that are flying more
kids in than others.

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So but again, we've been talking
about it signs are pointing to

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good things in the fall.
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And I think you want to set, you
know kind of a A benchmark like

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a low-end of like, this is what
minimally has to happen.

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And then from within that decide
how you want to approach it,

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depending on your facilities and
things that you can do on your

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own campus, but it's like I
said, it's just really good to

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finally get moving towards that
and as you stated about fall

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Camp, you know, I think it would
be good to do like a maybe a 15

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or 16 day period with maybe two
off days.

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Where you're working on
installation and strength, and

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conditioning, as an organized
team, and then maybe having a

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week or two break, and then
rolling back into a four-week

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fault Camp before the season
starts, that would, that to me

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would be an ideal situation
because you could use the first

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two weeks for installation and
kind of getting back into the

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swing of things before you start
going, you know, hammering it

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each other and pads and fall
Camp.

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So let me ask this.
Brian honest honest assessment

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If this happens this year, do
you think there will be certain

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football programs that will push
and say, hey, we think the

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beginning of July would be great
for a two-week, minicamp along

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with spring practice.
You think this will be something

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that's pushed at the NCAA and
again, how tough it was to be

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for the NCAA to say, no, when
literally, this is their one of

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their biggest cash cows.
Yeah, it'll be interesting to

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see if that's something that
they could put forward.

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You know.
There's been a large push for

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and I don't know why because it
doesn't really apply to a lot of

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other sports, but then there's
been such a large push with

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football for kind of the month
of June and July to be

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off-limits in the month of Prima
pretty much the whole month of

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December, unless you're in a
bowl, being off-limits for for

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these football type activities,
whether it's got to do.

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Do with exams or wanting to
provide some sort of buffer, but

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it would be nice to finally move
towards.

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Essentially the sport is
year-round.

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Anyway, let's treat it like a
year-round sport I agree with

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you, man.
All right, well guys, what we're

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going to be doing today is just
a little something different

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more, NCAA holistic than hokey
focused, couple weeks ago, CBS

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Sports and their college
football teams put together, a

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ranking of the top 65 coaches in
division.

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One along with Notre Dame coach
Fuente is clearly on there.

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We're going to discuss him in
just a moment here.

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We're going to About name the
CBS Sports top 10, but then

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we're going to name hours
because clearly we don't agree

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with everything they say.
So we're going to start out here

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with coach for Wednesday's
ranking.

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Brian, you saw it?
I saw it.

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I'll go ahead and make the
announcements.

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He was ranked 37, boo.
Okay, Brian.

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Clearly, there is something
upsetting you here.

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It's upsetting me too, but since
you're booing over there, what

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Actly.
What do you think this man

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should be at.
All right, so, I mean, I don't,

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I'm not calling him a top 25
coach coming off of the 2018 and

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2019 Seasons that we had.
But, but my man has not fallen

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out of the top 30, okay?
I'm going to put in, that's a

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2829.
Would be a fair raking, so he's

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about 8 to 10 positions lower
than he should be in my opinion.

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All right.
Okay.

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I'm with you.
I think he's a 28 and you're

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ready for it.
I got this.

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I got the dissertation here.
All right, go for it.

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Bring it to me.
Here are the coaches that are

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currently head of him, that have
no damn business.

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Being said, there's for Chip
Kelly to give it to me.

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Yeah.
I mean at some point what he did

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in Oregon can't count anymore or
at least not count as much as it

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is right now.
Alright next Lane kiffin Ole

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Miss he's already left one d.
One job he got fired from

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another on the tarmac and he
doesn't have exactly the best

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reputation in the world.
So how is he ranked ahead of

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both coasts?
It is successful.

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He can make us Sunbelt team kind
of disa, interesting.

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Alright next, you ready?
Yeah, I like the guys at human

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being good.
Coach Russ, start Scott Frost.

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He's not a 15 with Nebraska.
They had some players on that

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team and I know he's installing
his culture there and he's in,

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and he's in a pretty good
conference.

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But 9 and 15, you're going to
put him ahead of our coach.

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Yeah, that's the problem I have.
I feel like those guys are

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getting way more benefit of the
doubt for what they've done.

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Five years ago, yet Foo is
getting zero credit for what

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he's done.
In the whole five years.

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He's been in Virginia Tech.
Plus what he did before that,

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they're pretty much saying, well
you had a, you had one really

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bad season in one really bad.
Recruiting class.

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All right.
We're dropping him fruit.

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Alright, next harm.
He's 15 and 11.

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Yeah, you know he was seven and
six his first.

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Here.
And he was quite a second eight

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and five last year.
Hold on.

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Yeah.
No, not not quite yet.

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I think her mom, you know, maybe
he's the one people want to

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argue with me but he's not
exactly lighting the world on

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fire to his credit.
He's trending upwards, both in

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recruiting and with on the field
product, but I don't think that

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denotes moving him to where he
is on the list.

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I think.
I think we need to still operate

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a little more cautiously until
he's shown.

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He can prove himself as a coach
at that level.

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I mean, he's still establishing
his own culture and what he

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likes to do and I don't know if
you know this or not but you

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play to win the game.
Ha ha ha!

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Love it.
Brian.

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Love it ready for the next one?
Yep.

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Mike Norvell.
He needs to prove it.

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You're putting him.
Above a coach at the D1.

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P5 level, that essentially has
won games and you're sticking

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them ahead because he went to
Florida State.

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Come on Mike Norvell is a good
coach and he's probably going to

448
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,600
succeed pretty well at Florida
State, but just to jump out of

449
00:26:55,608 --> 00:26:59,800
the gate and say, oh yeah.
Yeah.

450
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,400
I mean, I think you have to
really have a great pedigree if

451
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,400
you're moving to a power 5
school and you don't have a

452
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,300
power five resume as a head
coach and I don't think his

453
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,700
previous resume quite justifies,
the jump, just because he got

454
00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:20,600
hired to a power, five job.
Yeah, he essentially in the

455
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,600
credit, Mike Norvell, he
essentially walked into what

456
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,600
Justin Fuente had built that
Memphis and he did built upon,

457
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,900
I'll give him that credit.
It but you're going to a whole

458
00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:32,800
different ball game now.
So yeah, I wouldn't mind him at

459
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,800
like 35 but not ahead of Coach
Fuente currently.

460
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:39,900
All right, you ready for the
next one and this is one of my

461
00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:43,400
favorites.
Tom Herman at Texas with all the

462
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,600
bleep and talent.
All that Talent.

463
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,900
He's had.
He's averaging the same number

464
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:53,200
of wins our head coaches.
How he's had one ten win season

465
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,900
way.
Second coach Fuente said one ten

466
00:27:54,900 --> 00:28:00,100
win season hold on.
Yeah.

467
00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:05,000
I mean, it seems like there's a,
some sort of curve here, where

468
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,800
if you coach for a blue blood
program, by default, that makes

469
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,600
you at least five positions
higher than what your actual

470
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:18,000
ranking should be high.
Alright, next, I am Bronco

471
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,900
Mendenhall.
That's that's the controversial

472
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,300
one that I think people are
going to be talking about a

473
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:26,100
little bit more.
Well, here's where pisses me

474
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:27,600
off.
He is played to win.

475
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,800
Like six times he's beat him
once and literally he needed the

476
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,600
greatest single performance in
the UVA school history to do

477
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,400
this and it's not even
questionable.

478
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400
If you look at Price Perkins
performance in the game, that

479
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,800
was the greatest single
performance of any player and

480
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,600
you put him above, and it's like
y'all.

481
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,500
If we look at these two teams,
yes, UVA was in shambles.

482
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,200
But okay, how do you put them
above a guy?

483
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,500
He can't beat without.
Out an unreal performance.

484
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:02,300
Yeah, I mean, we're talking
about the big picture.

485
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:05,600
We're still talking about
consistently Virginia Tech out

486
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,400
recruits UVA.
Consistently Virginia, Tech has

487
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,400
beaten a Bronco coach UVA team
relative to a Fuente coached

488
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,100
Virginia Tech Team.
So at some point that has to

489
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:20,400
matter, it's like we're glossing
over everything else because of

490
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,900
recency bias and recency bias.
Aw man.

491
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,400
Alright, the last one I had the
last Ooh, I have I love pit.

492
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,300
Pat, Fitzgerald Northwestern.
He's won games there.

493
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,700
But no coach in the top. 25
should have a three and nine

494
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:38,300
Seasons.
I love the guy.

495
00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:41,400
He's a hell of a coach in the
top 25.

496
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,500
Go look at all the other guys
there Brian nobody's ever had a

497
00:29:44,508 --> 00:29:47,200
three and nine season this for
into their 10 years.

498
00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:50,500
Yeah.
I mean I'm with you on that you

499
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,000
can't.
I don't have a problem with dip

500
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,200
into maybe like a 5 win or even
maybe a for win.

501
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,400
If you had some really bad
injuries on a year that you were

502
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,000
already predicted to kind of be
rebuilding anyway, but you know,

503
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,000
Virginia Virginia Tech most
years can you know, just line up

504
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,700
and get three wins without even
really putting forth an effort.

505
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:16,400
So it's really hard to go out
and say three wins is

506
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,100
impressive.
No matter who you're playing

507
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:19,400
100%.
All right.

508
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,400
In the last one and it's one of
those really Arts the crap out

509
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,400
of me Mack Brown.
Well, hold on, first of all, he

510
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,400
was ranked 42 last year.
He is now pop 20 with a seven

511
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:35,700
and six record, what?
Like I don't And if you want to

512
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:39,200
put him at 30 because he did do
a very impressive performance

513
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:46,400
but also similar to Scott
Satterfield who I do admire, he

514
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600
essentially got to take over a
team that had quit.

515
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:51,400
If you have some motivation for
some guys, you can get them to

516
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,700
play hard and they do have some
talent and Carol, imma you can

517
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:59,400
win to say it guys.
Gonna jump 22 spots to the top

518
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,200
20 with a seven and six record.
You have any other than the

519
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,900
recruiting that we're talking,
then we'll talk about, I'm sure

520
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,000
more a little bit more at some
other point, I mean, what is Mac

521
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,700
done in, you know, the time he's
been there that Fedora wasn't

522
00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:17,600
already doing before he lost the
locker room.

523
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,800
Exactly 100% in.
That was the key, lost the

524
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,300
locker room.
And here's the one thing that

525
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:29,600
I'll say in its recency bias for
you, what coach Fuente had to do

526
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,800
is come in after a legend and
alleging that hadn't Lost the

527
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,900
locker room since we prank just
kind of lost his fastball,

528
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:36,800
right?
Yeah.

529
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,700
He comes in and he starts
winning. 19 games, is first two

530
00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:42,600
years.
He has that dip, the third year

531
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,000
to six.
And then, yes, did you game

532
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,200
happened?
But I have a question Brian.

533
00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:51,600
And this is why I do put Fuente
about 28 right on the cusp of

534
00:31:51,608 --> 00:31:57,000
the top 25, how many coaches
below him or above him, could go

535
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,000
to and to and crap that happened
to that Duke game and then you

536
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,300
win More games and you lose
three literally on the last

537
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:08,000
possession of each of those
games.

538
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:11,400
How many coaches?
It's true, man.

539
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,100
It's true.
It's very few that could really

540
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:17,900
turn that around.
And, you know, you can credit or

541
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:19,800
apply the credit to whoever you
want to.

542
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,700
But at some point, the window
was the man at the top, that was

543
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:26,300
making those decisions, whether
you give more credit to, you

544
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:29,400
know, Jerry kill coming in or
whether you give some

545
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,900
adjustments to the way the
offensive play calling, Has done

546
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:35,900
after that, especially with
placing hooker in the starting

547
00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:40,600
lineup, whatever you attributed
to it still goes back to the man

548
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,900
at the top, making the call.
So at some point he has to get

549
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:47,400
some credit for that. 100%.
All right, so let's move on

550
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,400
Brian.
Let's actually go through CBS

551
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,900
Sports top 10 just going to name
them.

552
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,700
You can if you want to make a
comment more than welcome to

553
00:32:56,700 --> 00:32:59,000
because after we do that top 10
we're going to go back and forth

554
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000
with ours.
I think some be a lot of fun

555
00:33:01,300 --> 00:33:05,900
maybe some I see maybe some
other things like.

556
00:33:05,900 --> 00:33:09,500
So let's start number 10, Ryan
day at Ohio State.

557
00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:16,100
It's not horrible based on
recruiting and winning, but I

558
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:18,900
just because of how great they
recruit.

559
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:21,900
I just don't know how great of a
coach Ryan day is yet.

560
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,000
I'd like to see what he does
with, you know, it won't happen.

561
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,600
But I'd like to see what he
would do with less Talent.

562
00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:35,700
So a couple of these guys, I
think we mean you might be

563
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:39,800
talking about Penn State with
James Franklin, I'm here.

564
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:46,800
All right, eight is Florida with
Dan Mullen number seven and this

565
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,000
is one to me.
I wouldn't put this guy in the

566
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,000
top 20 right now.
Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M at dude,

567
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:58,400
literally burnt down Florida
State before he left it and I

568
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,500
think unfortunately Willie
Taggart was not the type of

569
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:03,300
Coach to pick up those type
pieces.

570
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:06,600
Then he goes to Texas A&M and
he's done, okay?

571
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:09,500
But it ain't like he's in there
winning ten, eleven games.

572
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,699
Of Nick knocking off coach.
Oh no.

573
00:34:12,699 --> 00:34:16,800
I mean he's had a slight uptick
in recruiting relative to his

574
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,800
predecessor and they're giving
him a lot of credit for the fact

575
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,199
that he won an Atty at Florida
State in 2013.

576
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:25,699
Yep, that's pretty much it.
All right.

577
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,100
Number 6 is Kirby Smart in
Georgia.

578
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,800
Nothing to say with that.
Brian Kelly at Notre Dame.

579
00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:39,199
Uncle Jewel, number four, I
gotta try it.

580
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:42,400
Lincoln.
Riley, three at Oklahoma, dabo's

581
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:47,100
number two at Clemson and number
one, Nick Saban Alabama, top

582
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:50,400
two, should be no no secret
here, after most of our

583
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,300
listeners, I would imagine.
Well, let's hope not, um, top

584
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,100
two for us.
I have a feeling may not be any

585
00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:01,300
different.
So, well, Brian, since I made

586
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:04,300
that announcement sir, I'm going
to let you begin this with your

587
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,400
number 10 coach.
All right, I'm a leadoff.

588
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,300
I don't think he's in your top
ten, but he's in mind.

589
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:16,300
I kept Ryan Kelly in the top 10.
He's just just made the made the

590
00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:20,200
cut their biggest thing is, I
mean he played for a national

591
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,000
championship, had his team to
the National Championship when

592
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:30,700
with Notre Dame, 243 93, and to
record as a head coach, he's had

593
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:34,900
two AP, Coach of the Year
Awards, three Conference titles.

594
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:38,700
And I still think You know, they
get good recruits but I think he

595
00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:43,200
also the product that's on the
field, they do play pretty much

596
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,500
on par.
If not slightly below, what they

597
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:47,900
recruit every year.
So it's not like some of those

598
00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:52,300
other Blue Bloods where you see,
you know, a discrepancy between

599
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:57,000
the recruiting ranking and the
output or like some of the other

600
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:02,400
Blue Bloods that just our talent
factories that just have have

601
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,900
recruit after recruit after a
crew.

602
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:07,100
They're not quite there anymore,
but there's So consistent with

603
00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:08,900
their product.
That's why I put it in there,

604
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:10,200
got it.
All right.

605
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,900
My number 10 is probably going
to be the biggest jumper.

606
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:22,300
This guy was in the low 30s, but
David, Claussen total record is

607
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:26,800
126 and 119 not the most
impressive, but he's coached,

608
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,200
here's the places.
He's coach Brian, these places?

609
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,000
I'm really kind of, kind of,
don't care about sports in a

610
00:36:32,008 --> 00:36:34,100
way.
He's coached it for them.

611
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,100
University of Richmond.
Hmm, Bowling Green and Wake

612
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:44,000
Forest.
He has won at every single one

613
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,300
of those stops, and I think
that's why I have to put in so

614
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:50,400
high.
He essentially has never got the

615
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:55,200
opportunity to coach,
essentially, even a high, like a

616
00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:00,000
mid-level tier one program, but
the guy just wins and he pulls

617
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,000
up sets and he beats people and
it Richmond.

618
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,700
He's essentially created the
team that won Mike, London is

619
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:09,200
National And ship and and it
wake last year, you want to

620
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:14,400
games at week?
I mean I see that guy and say, I

621
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,200
could go put that guy on a field
of a bunch of two and one star

622
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,500
guys in any power, five
conference.

623
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:26,600
And I guarantee you within a few
years, he produced, if you gave

624
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,500
him a consistent top 25
recruiting class every year, he

625
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:32,100
could do some damage true.
Now let me go back to your Brian

626
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:34,800
Kelly Point prize, just on the
outside of me.

627
00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:39,800
I think Brian's hit a ceiling.
Also think the one thing about

628
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,900
Brian, he is kind of slow to
make changes and I think with

629
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:46,600
the head coach, the one thing
that can put these guys in the

630
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,200
top 10s not being afraid and
he's made a few changes over the

631
00:37:50,207 --> 00:37:51,800
last few years.
But I think a couple of them are

632
00:37:51,808 --> 00:37:54,000
too late because I think you
missed a big window.

633
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:56,700
All right, who do you want me to
do number 9 or should you lead

634
00:37:56,700 --> 00:37:59,000
again sir, I'll let you leave
this time.

635
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,600
What you got?
All right man so I think this

636
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,000
house on your list so I'll let
you give the win-loss record a

637
00:38:04,008 --> 00:38:06,600
little later, but dude I love
Loved and Mullins down in

638
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:12,700
Florida and it's not only you
talk about his offensive prowess

639
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:16,000
when he was with Florida under
Urban, but then dude, how he

640
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:21,000
molded Mississippi State to
compete, not just play compete

641
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,100
in the SEC West, with the
talent, he was getting there.

642
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:26,800
That deserves an absolute tip of
the cap.

643
00:38:27,300 --> 00:38:30,500
And then how quick he got the
Florida program was kind of

644
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:36,000
burning after.
After Jim McElwain left, he

645
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,500
flipped it around ten win season
and then in 11 win season

646
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:44,900
competing quickly, you know
fault with Georgia beat LSU a

647
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:50,800
couple years ago fault LSU down
in Baton Rouge, I believe this

648
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:56,800
year and damn near got them.
But he just can coach whether

649
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,000
it's the top talent, or it's the
tier below Talent.

650
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,500
You could have Dan Mullen team.
You better be prepared because

651
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,700
Cuz that's the type of Kochi is.
Yeah, and I'll tell you, you

652
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:10,200
said, you thought I had him in
the top ten, he was actually

653
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,900
just missed my top, damn it.
I was fighting between him and

654
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,300
in, Brian, Kelly.
All right.

655
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,500
Well, yeah.
And the only knock I have on him

656
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:20,900
is that, you know, he's doing
great things at Florida, but

657
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:24,800
he's doing it, you know, with
Florida Rich Talent, getting the

658
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,800
best recruits from that area.
They are the a school right now

659
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,800
especially with the with Florida
State being down in Miami being

660
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,200
middling, So they are, they are
raking in the recruits down

661
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,600
there and I think that's
definitely playing playing into

662
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,800
a factor.
That may have shaded me as far

663
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,200
as whether to put him or Brian
Kelly, and at 10.

664
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,900
But, but that's where I went.
So my nine is actually exactly

665
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:57,100
what CBS has James Franklin.
So you must have done some

666
00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:02,100
research before the after the
draft episode, because you were

667
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:04,400
kind of lower on him.
And I told You I was higher on

668
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,000
him.
So did you do some digging you

669
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,300
little biggest of the big things
that I looked at as I looked at

670
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:10,200
what he did and Vandy.
Okay.

671
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,500
And that actually impressed me
more because I knew he had some

672
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,500
good teams have any, I didn't
realize that they were Bowl

673
00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:20,900
eligible in the SEC every year,
he coached there and he was

674
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:22,900
going Toe to Toe.
I looked at some of the new, an

675
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:25,100
individual games going
toe-to-toe with some of the big

676
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:33,300
dogs, you know, with severely
lower Talent at that point.

677
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,000
And he showed that he can be a
nice recruiter now that he's

678
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,200
gotten some of the, you know,
the money behind him now that

679
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,200
he's a Penn State.
So I think, you know, you put

680
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,000
those two things together, you
know, he can coach and now, you

681
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:48,500
know, he can recruit now, you
know, at times he comes off

682
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:53,200
either, sleazier, cheesy all the
easy words.

683
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,400
He rhymes with those but, and he
could potentially take a step

684
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:02,400
off this list, if he doesn't
start getting some big wins

685
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,200
against.
You know the Ohio State's of the

686
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:09,300
world but because he is starting
to get the recruits that aren't

687
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:12,800
stacking up against OSU but
relative to what I think he is a

688
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,100
coach he should start being able
to put them down from time to

689
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:20,500
time so I'd like to see them do
that with more consistency or I

690
00:41:20,508 --> 00:41:26,100
might have to move them down but
for now nine got it and he is

691
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:29,700
he's right outside for me too.
And it's the big thing is he

692
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:33,400
hasn't gotten the big wins.
I know he's beat Ohio State.

693
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:35,700
He's better than once, but it's
not consistent.

694
00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:40,100
But the other piece, what?
I think where you talk about him

695
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:43,400
becoming an ace recruiter, is I
think he's kind of overlooking

696
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,600
dogs and I think you got to
still have dogs and I think

697
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,100
that's why I put him just
outside because I think Stars

698
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,800
matter to him a little more now
and and there could be some guy.

699
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,200
He's that where he used to
reveal all you give me that guy.

700
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,100
He's a football player where
it's like he's that I'll take

701
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:00,700
the four star, he's a little
more athletic.

702
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:03,200
All right.
So number eight, Brian.

703
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,500
Lead the way sir.
Alright.

704
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:07,200
Number eight, I've got Kirby
Smart.

705
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:12,500
All right, he is Omar little
more in 1244 and 12 as a head

706
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:15,100
coach.
So he's a smaller sample size

707
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:17,200
than most of the guys that I'm
going to have on my list here.

708
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,400
But you know he was defensive
coordinator.

709
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,000
When Bama became would Bama is
and he's shown aptitude as a

710
00:42:24,008 --> 00:42:27,200
head coach.
They have been consistently

711
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,400
competing for an SEC
Championship since he's been the

712
00:42:29,408 --> 00:42:33,700
head coach at Georgia.
And, you know, he made a big run

713
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:36,600
in the college football playoff
of me, not many schools can say

714
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,000
that.
It's been such a limited Club

715
00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:45,500
outside of Ohio State Clemson in
Alabama, that any team that can

716
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:48,200
make a Deep Run like that.
Got to give them some respect,

717
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:52,300
you know, he does struggle a lot
in big games especially against

718
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:57,600
really high caliber competition,
like a Clemson or a Bama, but

719
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,100
I've like what he's doing and I
like the trajectory that teams

720
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:03,500
on all I've got a little high on
my list and I'll hit a few other

721
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:06,300
points on that in a few minutes.
I got number eight, I got PJ

722
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:11,100
Fleck and, you know, people can
make fun of his Row.

723
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:14,400
The Boat, the way he dresses.
Some of the things he says how

724
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,000
he speaks.
But mean all that God, does is

725
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,800
take programs and flip them from
losing to winning really fast.

726
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,300
He did it at Western Michigan.
He's done it at Minnesota.

727
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,300
He's starting to recruit better
at Minnesota.

728
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:34,700
And Brian, when I take a look at
this guy, we talk about records.

729
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:40,000
He's coached at Western Michigan
and he's coached at Minnesota.

730
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:43,100
They ain't the two biggest
programs in the world.

731
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,600
He's 93 and 70 student 53 and
37.

732
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:52,000
That's pretty impressive.
And that's counting and 11 loss

733
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,800
in his first year at Western
Michigan.

734
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,700
When they were a dumpster fire.
PK flick actually played the NFL

735
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:01,100
a couple of years.
She was actually On the 49ers

736
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:04,300
have Madden 06.
He's on that game, it's pretty

737
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:09,000
funny but Homer, I think he
understands how to build a

738
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,500
culture.
Another question for me, is what

739
00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:15,400
Fleck is Minnesota it?
Because he choose to stay there

740
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,500
and build it knowing that what
he's doing right now.

741
00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:21,200
If he does for the next ten
years, he'll never have to.

742
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,900
He never has to worry about
another job a day in his life.

743
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Or is there a bigger field out
there?

744
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,900
So PJ flaking.
Number 8, for me, All right.

745
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:35,800
Well, I guess I'll let you go
with with your seven, then?

746
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:39,400
Yeah.
Number 7, Kyle Whittingham with

747
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,900
the Utah Utes man, mr.
Consistent.

748
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:47,500
He is built Utah into a
consistent Pac-12 Contender.

749
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:53,100
Since they essentially were
taken in there was so close last

750
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:56,800
year, so close to potentially
breaking through the playoff

751
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,700
wall his teens.
They aren't they.

752
00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:05,900
Are not flashy, you know, a lot
of running the ball, he has sort

753
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:09,100
of adapted the last few years to
run a little bit more spread.

754
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:14,500
But his defense has man, you
better be ready to play them

755
00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:20,000
because they are going to hit
you and they're going to hit you

756
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,600
hard.
So be prepped on that and I just

757
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,500
think he's been doing it so
long.

758
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:29,700
He's only had like three Bad
seasons in place.

759
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:33,700
Has to 15 years of coaching, so
that's why I put him at number

760
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:35,900
7.
Okay.

761
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:37,800
Okay.
I'm going a little bit of a

762
00:45:37,808 --> 00:45:41,800
different route but kind of the
same idea that my seven.

763
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:47,100
I'm going Paul crisp.
All right, 71 and 35.

764
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:52,300
As a head coach two-time, Big
Ten coach of the year.

765
00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:56,300
The man has never missed a bowl
since he's become a head coach.

766
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,400
And the big thing for me is that
he is the classic example and

767
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:09,300
similar to Frank in a lot of
ways especially Peak Frank that

768
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:13,200
like really overplaying relative
to the town your team.

769
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,600
So, you know, you look at him
and he's still on an upward

770
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,800
trajectory right now, which is
the big thing for me.

771
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,900
So ten wins.
He's at 10 wins four of the last

772
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:24,200
five seasons.
And you know this is a guy that

773
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,200
is a you know, a life where it
at Madison Wisconsin.

774
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,900
So, yeah, I think that's a
that's a big thing because he

775
00:46:30,900 --> 00:46:33,300
knows the culture and he knows
how to build off of it.

776
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,400
Absolutely.
I'll add a few more things on

777
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,900
Paul Christian, a little while.
He's a little bit higher for me,

778
00:46:37,900 --> 00:46:42,500
Brian, I hear you got for number
six.

779
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,900
Alright, number 6, G p-- Gary
Patterson, whoo.

780
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:50,800
All right, that's it.
You brought Gary way up game.

781
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,100
It was like at the back end of
the teams for, uh, CBS go.

782
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:56,000
What you got on Gary, man?
Love Gary.

783
00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:59,600
All right, so 172 and 70 is a
head coach.

784
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,200
When we think about tenure, you
know, him and I infrared.

785
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,400
So the only two guys that have
been at the same place since

786
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,900
2000.
So he took he took over at TCU

787
00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:11,200
at 2,000.
Wow.

788
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,000
And he's the model of
consistency, man.

789
00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:20,600
I mean he's only missed a bowl.
Three years in the 20 that he's

790
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:26,000
been coaching as a head coach
and he's third of the four,

791
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,600
third or fourth, in all the
totem pole and turn up in terms

792
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,300
of recruiting the state talent,
but he's consistently played

793
00:47:32,300 --> 00:47:35,500
with or ahead of those other
teeth, huh?

794
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:41,000
Texas, Texas A&M, I mean, is
really the only ones that's,

795
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,400
that's consistently been ahead
of them and sometimes, you know,

796
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,300
they've clipped them down.
You know, Baylor's been up and

797
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:50,200
down here and there, but TCU has
been the model of consistency

798
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,500
there.
Consistently, you know, second

799
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:55,600
or third in that in that
conference if they're not

800
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,900
winning it.
So you're not I can look at them

801
00:47:57,900 --> 00:48:00,400
and see them in the fifth or
sixth slot.

802
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,200
Most years absolutely couple
years ago.

803
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,100
Remember, they got T think,
Oklahoma RTC, you got Oklahoma

804
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:09,800
and Oklahoma got them back in
that championship game.

805
00:48:10,900 --> 00:48:13,800
My number six, man, he's a
little lower on your list, a

806
00:48:13,808 --> 00:48:17,500
little higher on my list Kirby,
Smart, a, he's at his alma

807
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:19,600
mater.
So there's a feeling that Kirby

808
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,200
going to be there.
A long, long time.

809
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,100
And he took, that was a very
good program under mark richt

810
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:29,500
And he's taking them.
You mentioned it.

811
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:32,600
He's taking them to an elite
power program.

812
00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:35,100
Pretty quick, it wasn't like a
five or six year.

813
00:48:35,100 --> 00:48:38,100
Literally was one down 10K year,
boom.

814
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:41,800
It's to me that 10 is a
testament to the type of Coach.

815
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,200
He is, he's a damn good
recruiter.

816
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,400
He's a damn, good defensive
mind.

817
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:51,200
And this year we sort of saw him
take a step in the off season.

818
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,000
In my opinion, he made some
changes on that offense and he

819
00:48:55,008 --> 00:48:58,300
went out and got Jamie Newman.
I think we're going to see a

820
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:00,900
slightly different Georgia
offense.

821
00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:02,800
This year where I give credit to
the head.

822
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:08,200
Coach understanding the Saban
model from 10 years ago isn't

823
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,800
working to beat the Elite teams
anymore.

824
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,100
You've got to mix it up,
offensive ly so I give him

825
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:17,200
credit for that man.
All right, is it my turn?

826
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:18,700
It's your turn.
Yeah, you're going to, you're

827
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:20,300
going to take the next.
I got number five.

828
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:24,900
I'll give you a coach whole down
on the body, the head.

829
00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:30,200
Or people always Rebel about how
Coach O is on the recruiting

830
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,700
Trail.
He's just one of those guys

831
00:49:31,700 --> 00:49:37,300
that, you know, families, kids
just they're just drawn to his

832
00:49:37,300 --> 00:49:40,500
first, tenure down at Ole.
Miss was just not good at all,

833
00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:45,100
but to the kind of guy and you
can kind of see it with how he

834
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:46,800
coaches, you see him always
running.

835
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,200
They always show this picture
them run around LSU's campus, he

836
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:55,100
kept grinding and he kept
grinding and I kind of wonder if

837
00:49:55,100 --> 00:49:58,700
a few years ago if you SC.
When they put him that interim

838
00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:04,500
label, if they feel like they
missed but also sit here and

839
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:09,500
think I think coach oh he went
home and he is a perfect culture

840
00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:13,000
film down state of Louisiana
down in the South.

841
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:19,100
He also kind of realized last
couple years similar worker bees

842
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:23,600
doing I gotta change some things
on offense and he did it last

843
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,500
year brought in Joe.
Brady good Lord.

844
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,300
And that was a hell of an
offense.

845
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,400
So I got coach 05 right now.
All right, well I'm going to do

846
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,500
a repeat of what you did a
little bit earlier for my number

847
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:39,200
five.
I've got Kyle Winningham it.

848
00:50:39,500 --> 00:50:44,600
Okay?
And I've got him by record, 131

849
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,300
and 63.
That's so impressive at Utah.

850
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,300
Yes it is.
So impressive.

851
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,100
So he's only missed two bowls
and 15 years and much like I

852
00:50:55,107 --> 00:50:57,600
was, you know, harping on Gary
Patterson.

853
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,900
They moved from the Mountain
West of the Pac-12.

854
00:50:59,900 --> 00:51:04,000
Just like they booed, you know,
Mound West to the Big 12 never

855
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,400
missed a beat, not exactly were
located in what you would call a

856
00:51:07,408 --> 00:51:10,600
recruiting, hotbed know who now
you tada.

857
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:14,700
Does overachieve relative to
some of their you know

858
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:17,400
recruiting rankings in terms of
the talent that comes out of

859
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,000
that state but you wouldn't
necessarily call Utah.

860
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,600
They were recruiting hotbeds so
definitely they over achieve in

861
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,900
that spot.
And you know this is a guy that

862
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:28,200
spent most of his life coaching
in Utah.

863
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,300
So he knows the lay of the land
and he knows how to find those

864
00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:33,400
Diamonds in the Rough.
So I think he does a really good

865
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,100
job with that and he's also one
of the coach, another coach

866
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:40,200
that, you know, I think this up
a lot but does a lot with a

867
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,700
little There's not a whole lot
that's attracting kids to play

868
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:48,900
Utah but yet he's still out
there getting it done and he's

869
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,800
of late.
Seeing some upper trajectory he

870
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,500
would relative to his success in
those 15 years.

871
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:58,700
So absolutely.
Gotta gotta love it.

872
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:02,600
Do love coach Whittingham and I
don't think I mean I think he's

873
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,800
there and I don't think you saw
is ever going to let him go.

874
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,200
Because you have that
consistency.

875
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:09,500
He just ride it, man.
All right.

876
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:14,200
Brian, who's your number though?
All right, now before we got

877
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,900
this is going to be the smallest
resume but probably the highest

878
00:52:19,900 --> 00:52:23,200
winning percentage, we have on
the list Lincoln Riley.

879
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:28,300
All right, haga thirty six and
six we match on this one like in

880
00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:30,700
Riley's, not for okay.
Okay.

881
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:34,100
So what I like to call Lincoln
Riley, we're going to call him

882
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:36,600
the quarterback Whisperer.
Oh, okay.

883
00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:40,100
Alright.
So this Man's coach, three

884
00:52:40,100 --> 00:52:43,600
years, you coach Baker collar
and Jayla they've all been

885
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,100
drafted.
Yes, they have two of them were

886
00:52:46,107 --> 00:52:49,900
drafted where Curtis 11?
Yeah, yeah.

887
00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:54,800
That's that's a big deal.
That's a very big deal and he's

888
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,300
molded them into a regular
season Force.

889
00:52:57,300 --> 00:53:01,000
They've lost three games in the
regular season in his tenure.

890
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,400
And they can really score some
points as evidenced.

891
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:09,100
By the way, they run out the
scores on a lot of those big 12

892
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:11,500
defense has, and they're great
at getting the most out of that

893
00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:13,900
offensive Talent.
They really do a good job of

894
00:53:14,300 --> 00:53:16,400
getting the ball to their
Playmakers and letting them make

895
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,100
plays.
It is imperative that he gets

896
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:22,400
better against Elite competition
because they've made the

897
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,200
playoffs three years, but
they've lost all three years in

898
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,600
the first round.
So, yeah.

899
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,700
He needs to have some success
against those high-caliber

900
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:33,300
teams.
Like Clemson, Ohio, State and

901
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:37,600
Bama.
But I think that he can take the

902
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,200
next step.
If he keeps going, you know,

903
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,500
this is a Mike Leach disciple.
So, you know, that they're there

904
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:46,700
all about the offense to get
points on the board.

905
00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:48,700
So I'd like to see what he can
do next.

906
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:51,900
But right now I've got a bit for
based on those first Dynamic,

907
00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:54,300
three years.
He said, absolutely, I'm with

908
00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:55,600
you, man.
He's probably the most

909
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:59,000
Innovative offensive mind in the
college football game right now.

910
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,900
Also, he was stepping into some
Choose when Bob Stoops

911
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:09,600
essentially, I mean abruptly
kind of retired and then Lincoln

912
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,800
was named you know, head coach.
Because that was remember, it

913
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,400
wasn't like directly after it
was.

914
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,400
Actually after those around
spring when it happened and it

915
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,400
was just kind of like a, who's
this young kid?

916
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,500
Get.
He's a really good OC.

917
00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:24,700
But man pops do 20 national
championships played for a few

918
00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:29,000
more, you know?
Oh, this this is going to be

919
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,000
this could be bad but he didn't
he You to excel, he's actually

920
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:37,900
built on what Bob created there
to Oklahoma in the early 2000s.

921
00:54:37,900 --> 00:54:40,400
When they had been down for
quite some time since which in

922
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:45,500
the 80s but you make a couple
points you talk about the big

923
00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:48,000
games.
He's got to get a comparable

924
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,300
defense, he gets one watch out
but I also think he's got a

925
00:54:51,300 --> 00:54:53,300
growth.
There's some games where they

926
00:54:53,300 --> 00:54:57,600
are up, you know 23 touchdowns
and instead of where you sit

927
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,900
there hey dude, get down a
little bit, get down, make that

928
00:55:00,900 --> 00:55:04,700
other Defense work.
And you see them quickly screw

929
00:55:04,700 --> 00:55:08,700
up the three and out and there's
sled that other team back in, or

930
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:11,000
they can't stop the run.
I remember sitting here watching

931
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,000
the Kansas State game in the
cave last year in Kansas State.

932
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:18,500
Literally ran through them like
a hot knife through butter.

933
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:22,800
Just like we're going to run
touchdown, stop us but what that

934
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,300
tells me is with him, he's so
focused on his offense.

935
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:29,600
It's probably why he's not three
for me.

936
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,100
First being for is, he's Gotta
learn that.

937
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:35,500
You're not just an offensive
coach anymore.

938
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:38,600
You are the head coach, give him
credit, he hired Alex Grinch

939
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,100
hell of a defensive coordinator,
but is he going to take those

940
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:46,700
steps when he's up 17, 34 17,
early third to.

941
00:55:46,700 --> 00:55:48,800
Hey, let's make this a 7-minute
drive.

942
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,000
Instead of scoring three plays
that you got.

943
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,500
You got to have a middle gear,
even when you're a Tempo off at

944
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:57,900
you got to have a middle gear
where you can say, okay, well, I

945
00:55:57,908 --> 00:56:01,700
don't need to use the whole
clock, but I need to use a lot

946
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:04,000
of it.
You gotta need to start taking

947
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,200
my time a little bit more.
Sure.

948
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,300
Go Tempo.
Would you get a big play when

949
00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:11,600
you feel like you got them on
their heels but don't just go

950
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,000
fast, just to go fast.
Absolutely.

951
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:17,900
Alright, so we're in the top
three here for Ian, I will do my

952
00:56:17,900 --> 00:56:22,800
number three, sort of the
Shocker for some people.

953
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,300
Probably did I get Paul Chris,
man?

954
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:27,400
You've already mentioned some of
the stuff he's done.

955
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:30,900
Here and people are probably
going to say that's really hard

956
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:35,400
for him.
But the comparative Talent he

957
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,900
gets versus where he has to go
against against your Michigan's

958
00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:44,100
against Ohio, State's, you can
spin States and how he's done.

959
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:47,700
I mean, it's insane.
There's a huge Talent disparity,

960
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:49,700
but he, competes with those
guys.

961
00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:52,400
And if you remember the Big Ten
championship last year, they

962
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:56,800
came Square out and punched Ohio
State directly in the mouth.

963
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,000
Ohio State came back in one but
watching the first half of that

964
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,100
game, you kind of thought?
Holy crap, are they going to do

965
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:05,700
this?
Or they they were reeling.

966
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:09,100
They were really.
They had to really Gear Up and

967
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:12,100
figure out what they went to
Wisconsin was doing ordered over

968
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:13,500
comfortable.
Absolutely.

969
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:18,100
And then you said it earlier,
Paul is essentially a culture

970
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:21,600
fit there, he's probably never
going anywhere else.

971
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,500
He played quarterback for the
Badgers in the 1980s as think if

972
00:57:26,500 --> 00:57:29,500
either if it Wasn't right
before, it was right.

973
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:34,200
After Barry Alvarez took over
and started started molding that

974
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,600
program into one of those
programs of the last 25 years

975
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:43,200
that really was built.
And the big thing for him.

976
00:57:44,300 --> 00:57:48,500
If he ever gets, if he ever gets
just slightly more talent, I

977
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:52,900
think Paul Chris, you give him a
couple pop 15 recruiting classes

978
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,700
with Jim Leonard as a defensive
coordinator, man.

979
00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:59,700
Ohio, State Michigan, freaking
Penn State better hold their

980
00:57:59,700 --> 00:58:03,100
pants because a Chris is one of
those guys really Miami game.

981
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:06,100
And he freaking random damn
score up down in South Beach.

982
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,600
Oh, yeah.
I don't think he cares, and I

983
00:58:08,607 --> 00:58:11,800
think he kind of likes it when
some of those flashy big teams

984
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,000
he gets to put it on them.
And he's always going to bring

985
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,200
that that hard-nosed attacking
Style with the with the running

986
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,300
game.
So I mean, you know, that

987
00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:23,600
they're going to be bringing
that element to the game and

988
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,300
they're not going to step off of
that.

989
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,600
Just because, you know, the
games out of hand, they're going

990
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,600
to, they're going to keep coming
at you, absolutely.

991
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,400
All right.
Who's your 33 big?

992
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,500
000 and, or drop.
Okay.

993
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:44,000
Yes sir.
Go Tigers, anyway, 56 and 36.

994
00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:49,000
Records are not the most flashy
record for the guys that are in

995
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:53,100
the, the top 10 here.
But what I'm going to point to

996
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:58,300
is kind of the success story of
his head coaching trajectory

997
00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:02,100
here.
So completely failing at Ole

998
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:06,800
Miss completely, he tried to
implement that USC style offense

999
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:11,600
and it just it wasn't happening
and they weren't Stout enough on

1000
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,800
defense to overcome those
offensive shortcomings, even

1001
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:21,300
with some of the talent they had
Your to two stints as a interim,

1002
00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:25,300
head coach with success.
Both x 6, + 2 6 + 2.

1003
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,300
And I'm going to answer the
question for you.

1004
00:59:28,300 --> 00:59:32,900
USC is absolutely kicking
themselves for not hiring him as

1005
00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:35,400
head coach after that.
Success is interim.

1006
00:59:37,500 --> 00:59:41,200
They got a chance at LSU after,
after that second six and to

1007
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,800
stand as an interim and LSU is
reap the benefits.

1008
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,200
He's been 34 and And since he's
took over in the last three

1009
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,100
years and he's a coach that's
really looked at himself in the

1010
00:59:53,107 --> 00:59:57,300
mirror as he's as he's been
going along and made changes to

1011
00:59:57,300 --> 01:00:01,300
his approach and made changes to
his staff in order to attain the

1012
01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:06,400
success that he wanted and say
what you will.

1013
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,700
But I mean, he's a likable guy.
I don't think there's anybody

1014
01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:15,200
that is more affable as a head
coach in terms of being both,

1015
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,900
you know, someone you feel like
you have a beard Here with and

1016
01:00:17,900 --> 01:00:19,900
be affable.
But also a guy that really knows

1017
01:00:19,900 --> 01:00:22,500
his shit.
Yep, there's really not a

1018
01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:24,600
another model for that other
than that order on at this

1019
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,100
point, got you?
Yep.

1020
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,100
All right, man.
Well, we have kind of reached

1021
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:32,700
the summit here.
So our top two and I will let

1022
01:00:32,700 --> 01:00:36,800
you leave number two, sir.
Again, this is probably no

1023
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:42,300
surprise to folks here, but at
to I've got Dabo Swinney same,

1024
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:49,800
so 130 and 31 record.
He's got obviously two national

1025
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:54,200
titles at this point.
Six ACC titles and three-time

1026
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,400
recipient of the Bear, Bryant
award the took Clemson from a

1027
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,300
middling team to a perennial
Challenger for the ACC and then

1028
01:01:02,300 --> 01:01:04,200
perennial Challenger for the
national title.

1029
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,100
Earlier in his career, could get
over the hump but he's shown

1030
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:12,500
that he can be adaptable.
Both in how we approach is

1031
01:01:12,500 --> 01:01:16,700
offense and defense and he's
great on the recruiting Trail.

1032
01:01:17,300 --> 01:01:21,900
They consistently end up pulling
in the top five classes and

1033
01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:24,700
that's that's really been a
sticking point.

1034
01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:30,200
But the big thing is, is his
ability to Rally the support for

1035
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,700
the team around his vision.
And that's what's really I think

1036
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:38,300
separated what he's done in the
ACC versus we're kind of

1037
01:01:38,300 --> 01:01:43,200
everybody else is a giant step
behind them from the financial

1038
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:44,900
alignment.
And from the physical

1039
01:01:44,900 --> 01:01:48,600
perspective that that fan base
carries, both from their

1040
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:53,000
traveling and just the pride,
they showing their team, they

1041
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,300
become a national brand become
because of that, they absolutely

1042
01:01:56,300 --> 01:02:01,000
are men and I'm going to say a
couple things.

1043
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:04,900
First of all, a lot can be said
about Dabo, but you Not deny.

1044
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:08,000
You kind of mentioned, it kind
of took affable program that had

1045
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,800
some history.
Could always get some Talent,

1046
01:02:10,900 --> 01:02:14,200
always kind of competitive, and
he just found some in the dirt

1047
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:19,300
there down Clemson, you
mentioned about the financial

1048
01:02:19,300 --> 01:02:24,700
piece and everybody's probably
heard the story before Dabo got

1049
01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:28,800
into coaching, he was
essentially in corporate in

1050
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,800
commercial real estate.
So when you hear talk about that

1051
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,100
money and how we It.
If he's doing commercial real

1052
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:39,500
estate, I think he probably saw
how corporations was probably

1053
01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:42,300
handling their assets.
And he probably went down to

1054
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:45,100
Clemson kind of like me and you
talked about me and the

1055
01:02:45,107 --> 01:02:48,700
corporate world and he said you
see that Stadium over there.

1056
01:02:48,700 --> 01:02:50,500
We hit that rock.
We come down that Hill, there's

1057
01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:53,600
80,000 people that's how we
bleep in make money.

1058
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,200
You're going to give me all the
money because if you do, we're

1059
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,900
going to create something.
And he did create something.

1060
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:04,100
And in my opinion, he's created
a second death star in college.

1061
01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:09,000
Football because of where
they're located, you know, down

1062
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,600
in the South but can kind of
recruit nationally.

1063
01:03:12,700 --> 01:03:16,400
They got a very good school,
their small town.

1064
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:19,000
He's putting guys in the pros,
man.

1065
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,400
Yeah, and you got, you got a
combination of the academics and

1066
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,300
the the NFL statue that they
have.

1067
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:29,900
No, that's that's a big one.
Two punch.

1068
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:32,300
And one other piece, you talk
about him, getting good

1069
01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:35,900
recruits, but only a couple
Times has he gotten the top

1070
01:03:35,900 --> 01:03:38,100
class?
Because I think the one thing he

1071
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:42,600
does that James Franklin needs
to think about he still goes out

1072
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,700
and get some of those two and
three star dogs.

1073
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:47,100
Guys he sees that are just
fighting for every inch.

1074
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:51,300
He puts them on the team and
almost kind of treat them the

1075
01:03:51,300 --> 01:03:54,700
same as he does everybody else
where it's I have the to store.

1076
01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:57,900
I have the walk on guy while
he's the same as you five star.

1077
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:03,900
So consensus consensus.
Number two.

1078
01:04:04,700 --> 01:04:05,600
There we go.
Yeah.

1079
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:09,300
Are you leave with the one eye?
Right?

1080
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:12,400
I'll leave man.
I mean there's nobody else we've

1081
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,300
mentioned.
So it's kind of tough.

1082
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,200
It's Nick Saban and there's not
even a question.

1083
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,600
You can love them, you can hate
it, but you better respect.

1084
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,800
And because this man coach
football, Nick is coach college

1085
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:28,400
football, 24 years, Brian,
between Toledo Michigan, State

1086
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,200
LSU, and Alabama.
He has won at every stop.

1087
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,700
He has six national titles, but
the one thing I give him, I'm

1088
01:04:37,707 --> 01:04:41,300
credit for more than anything,
especially over the last 10

1089
01:04:41,300 --> 01:04:44,800
years.
He has learned how to adapt, you

1090
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,300
know, he knows how to coach, he
knows how to recruit.

1091
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:51,700
He's got to fire, but you know
that man is cerebral.

1092
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,900
In my opinion, is the top five
all-time head coach.

1093
01:04:54,900 --> 01:04:59,900
But the one other piece that I
think that sometimes might get

1094
01:04:59,900 --> 01:05:07,100
overlooked with Nick is, he kind
of had a reinvent himself after

1095
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:12,300
what happened Miami any he
reinvented himself freely to go

1096
01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:16,400
back to more of the coaching
because although every Bama

1097
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,200
player that gets drafted, does
it become a superstar?

1098
01:05:19,900 --> 01:05:22,600
You don't find many on that
flame out there.

1099
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,300
Usually consistently good
players and I think that kind of

1100
01:05:26,300 --> 01:05:29,500
tells me that when he went back
to the college game, it was I'm

1101
01:05:29,500 --> 01:05:31,200
going to teach these guys how to
play football.

1102
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,600
So when they walk in the NFL
locker room, even if they aren't

1103
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,500
the star, they're going to be on
the squad, five or six.

1104
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,400
Ears.
I've got him at one as well.

1105
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,300
We're consensus on onto and one
here.

1106
01:05:43,300 --> 01:05:50,800
Record wise to 4365 and one,
that's ridiculous. 24 years of

1107
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:55,200
education, that's ridiculous. 8
SEC.

1108
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:59,700
Championships in 20 years to
Walter Camp trophies for time

1109
01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:03,200
SEC coach of the year, I mean,
at this point he became like

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LeBron and m.j. were where they
just got tired of giving them

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the trophy every year.
So they'll Like Wilson, got to

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give it to somebody else for now
because you know, they wanted

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three years in a row or two
years in a row stuff like that.

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So I'm honestly surprised how
long he stayed at Bama after it?

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It goes back to the reinvention
point that you were talking

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about is that he wasn't really
at any stop for longer than 4

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years.
Before this current state of

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Alabama.
And I think like I said, it goes

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along with what you're saying
about the Reinventing.

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He's definitely changed his
approach to the game.

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I think he really wants to build
a program where it's about guys,

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that end up having success.
After they leave, Alabama, I

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think winning has been a
byproduct of that, but he's

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trying to get the best guys in
house and Coach them up so they

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can have success with them.
Next Level now, ultimately,

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that's sometimes stung him
because you know you've got a

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talented roster of guys that
want to play and they can all

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play at the same time but
sometimes that happens.

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But the thing that has always
impressed me and Curtis we

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talked about it a bunch of times
especially before the playoff

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was put into place when he's got
more than 10 days to prepare for

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you.
Oh, Lord, he is damn near on V,

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01:07:21,900 --> 01:07:27,600
is he is unbeatable.
It's not even a joke, man.

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01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:32,800
I mean, it's crazy because you
see he has all your little

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01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,700
tricks and everything figured
out when that happens.

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01:07:36,700 --> 01:07:40,500
I mean, it's wild in, you know,
being Virginia Tech fans since

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he's been at bamboo.
We've seen him opening weekend

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01:07:42,900 --> 01:07:47,300
twice.
And man, you know, 09, we had

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01:07:47,300 --> 01:07:52,500
them but he got us in in 12 when
we were not as talented.

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01:07:52,900 --> 01:07:57,600
You could tell, you know, he was
prepped for what we were going

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01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,300
to.
To do its kind of unfathomable

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01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,800
that again.
It's my put about he's fire.

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01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,900
You see him scream at the
sideline, he gets mad, but he's

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01:08:06,900 --> 01:08:08,800
cerebral.
And when he had the chance to

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:12,600
look at what he can do to you
over the course of a few weeks,

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01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,400
he's going to figure it out.
So on the other side, you better

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01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,899
bring your A Plus because he's
going to bring his and his boys

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01:08:18,899 --> 01:08:22,100
are going to execute and you're
probably not going to win.

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01:08:23,300 --> 01:08:26,000
Can we also talk about with any
other head, coach of had the

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01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,100
balls to put to end in that
national championship game?

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01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:45,500
No, no, no.
But he's been so long episode.

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01:08:45,500 --> 01:08:51,300
He expected it to be over an
hour, man, but, no, we put in

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01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:54,399
some time there.
And you talk about where we have

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01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:57,200
our Coach, Frank that we look at
the top ten, we're talking about

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01:08:57,200 --> 01:09:00,000
the attributes, we see there.
It's a lot of fun to do

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01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,200
something like this.
So guys what we're going to ask

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01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,800
you is have fun tomorrow when we
have funded and we drop this who

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01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:12,700
are your top 10 current and into
a a football coaches you know

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01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:17,300
will post hours out there.
I'm sure that I'm sure I'll get

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01:09:17,300 --> 01:09:20,000
flak for 10 and a heartbeat from
a few people but you know, it is

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01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,899
what it is.
So who's the top?

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01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:27,399
Ten NCAA football.
Coaches going into 2020 tweet at

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01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:29,300
us.
That Brian.

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01:09:29,300 --> 01:09:32,500
I think this is going to wrap up
this episode of The Boundary

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01:09:32,500 --> 01:09:36,500
Corner podcast.
Yes, sir, Curtis Wilson, I'm

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01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:39,399
Brian Ziegler.
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01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:42,200
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01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,800
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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,300
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01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:55,800
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Okay.