The Hokies laid an egg in Lane Stadium on Saturday afternoon in a game that could be the beginning of the end of the Fuente Era. We look back at what made this game such a challenge for the Hokies and what can be salvaged from this lopsided defeat.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.

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I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Sigler.

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How you doing tonight, buddy?
Doing good, man, the 49ers

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didn't play today so that had
absolutely zero stressors

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throughout the day.
Yeah, fantasy team.

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If I should well, you should go
look at the league and see how

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many IRS or P UPS or no games
this week that are on my bench

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and I still broke 100.
With guys like Tim Patrick,

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Robbie Anderson and dmytryk
Felton, Robbie Anderson saved

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your day on that last Drive
touchdown catch.

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Patrick had a touchdown to so
I'm probably not going to win,

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but the boys were given some
effort out there.

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Little golf clap for your
effort.

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Well, I'm I'm watching my
Braves.

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Try to put the Dodgers in, 2002
whole.

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Yeah, I got to look at my Colts.
Finally, get back on track

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against the Texans today.
I myself have been under the

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weather today but I'm here
tonight.

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We're going to get this done.
It's going to be, it's not going

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to be fun, but it's going to be,
I think, Us Airy.

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And I think we're going to talk
about some things that really

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need to be said and kind of push
forward.

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I think on where we need to go,
we're not going to talk a lot of

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specifics about the game just
because I think everyone kind of

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has rehashed that enough in the
last couple days.

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We're going to get talk a little
high level about what we saw and

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what we thought.
But most of this is going to be

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a temperature, check in this era
of hokey football and it's it's

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it.
We're going to, we're going to

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have a A little later.
After we discuss the game four

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from the post game and then
there's an arc there and their

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points were going to hit all
along.

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And but before we get into the
getting upset news, we did gain

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a commitment over the last week
right here, from the 804 right

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here, down in Chester the five
and one Thomas Dale, team

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Malachi Madison 63 3310, I do
not think it least.

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The weight part is incorrect,
seeing some of his videos.

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I think he's ever been of a
300-pound kid.

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He's a three-star guy and, you
know, two guys that we'll talk

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about later with Ryan Smith and
JC price, where his primary and

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secondary recruiters, what are
you seeing from this big guy

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from those highlight tape run?
He's a guy that Already built

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exactly what you want for this
type of system that can still

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he's got, he's got a motor
inside the tackles there, he can

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move, he'll get after you.
Like I said, the thing I like

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the most is that he's coming in
size, ready?

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Ready to go.
Probably even a little better

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shape than even when when fuga
came in at a similar size.

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So I think he's a guy that
probably could push for some

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rotational snaps here one and
you know by year, 2 2 & 3 is

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going To be making a significant
impact for the defense.

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Awesome.
To hear that.

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And again, another Virginia kid
and Kylie, I'm looking here now.

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One, two, three. 45.
Six, seven, eight, nine, nine of

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the 23 commits.
We have our in-state guys.

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Obviously, a couple of the top
10.

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And as much as we've lauded, and
we're going to absolutely rip

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some things apart tonight.
You know, I really think thanks

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to Justin Hamilton JC price,
Ryan Smith, Adam Lichtenberg

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we're still 19th in the country.
And I think, if you look at the

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Arc of the players left, I don't
think we're falling out of the

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top, 30 in less when things
happen.

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Like we probably are assuming
they happen at the end of the

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season unless there's some guys
that completely jump.

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All ship.
I think we're going to have a

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top 30 class and that's good for
who hopefully the new regime.

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Yep.
And we're going to be talking

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about that in a little bit.
Yeah, let's start by talking a

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little bit about the game
itself.

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Whoo, What can we say?
Bleeping pissed.

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I literally put on shows on.
This is my notebook folks will

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show you the inside contents of
it.

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Literally after the first half,
I said the season is over.

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Bleep.
This.

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That's how mad I was.
I went out.

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Talk to my wife, we decided what
we were getting for dinner.

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Made our kids, some dinner here
at the house.

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My mom was gone.
You called me for a vent

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session, only get dinner, I did
me and Ron had a session in the

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rest of the night.
I watched a little bit of the

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other gangs hung out with my
wife, you know, about you.

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After that first half.
Yeah, I mean we ended up kind of

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settling in decided we want to
do for dinner, grab dinner, I

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ended up throwing the game on
the iPad and we watched

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Halloweentown with with my son.
So that's how hard I went all.

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Sometimes, what's going around?
Let's let's let's hit the

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defense first in something that
you driving to the restaurant.

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I thought you told me, it's like
if you told me we take away

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certain plays in.
Did you say Saw we're going to

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be in this game.
Yep and we did a good job of

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kind of taking away what pit
like to do.

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We actually did a pretty good
job of kind of stopping a lot of

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the over the middle stuff that
they like to do and some of the

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routes that Mac it had a lot of
success with there wasn't a ton

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of those and more or less kept
their receivers from completely

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dominating the game.
That was a shocker.

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I didn't I didn't think for four
quarters that we would have been

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able to do that.
I know game Flow, they kind of

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went away from the past good
about in the second half.

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They didn't need it after that.
Fret that opening drive

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touchdown in the second half.
They didn't really need to swing

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the ball around much anymore,
but I thought we did a good job

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overall where I thought we
struggled was setting the edge

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in the Run game.
We did a good job.

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They were running up between the
tackles, we did a pretty bad job

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when they were bouncing it
outside and making sure that

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those you know, PR gains didn't
turn into first downs to off and

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they were either 8-yard gains
first down runs.

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Yeah.
Yeah, nothing.

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Nothing gassing.
But bad enough, where you're

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keeping your defense on the
field longer than you like, how

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much does that go into Bronwen
knowing the type of passing a

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Attack that they have.
How much is it?

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Where how much is it easier for
an offensive lineman to set the

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edge?
When you know they feel like

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we're still passing because it
one point it was 21-7 right?

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Yep was 21-7 the game was not
put away 21-7.

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Excuse me?
No 28-7.

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They got their touchdown on the
opening drive of the second

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half.
But how easy it was it to run

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when you know you're playing a
passing team and it's like well

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they're going to be coming up
field.

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How much easier is that for an
offensive line?

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It really depends because you
still want to stop the

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penetration, but they did a good
job in their kind of outside

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zone game.
Kind of funneling us where we

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needed to would then, again, the
edge was solved.

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And I think some of that was by
Design just because we were

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trying to stop some of the
stuff, the, the passing game in

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the middle of the field, and I
think those responsibilities

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ended up going by the wayside a
little bit.

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And you know, there wasn't there
was a couple times where we were

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there and we just took a bad
angle and there was a couple

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times where we were there and we
just didn't keep keep that

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outside leverage the way we
needed to and you know they got

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a running back that while not
you know necessarily a game

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changer has good speed and he
was able to get to the edge a

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lot and impact the running game
that way.

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Like I said, he didn't do
anything that was hurting us in

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terms of big plays but it was
just a gash here.

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Gasps there that kept him on the
field and that really kind of

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played a role in the first half,
they be open to extend drives

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especially as they closed out
the the first half there and

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then it impacted Us in the
second half where we couldn't

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get them off the field
especially on that one.

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Big drive to that really close
out the game.

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Exactly.
The one in the second half that

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are in the fourth quarter that
literally laughs I like 10

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minutes, you know, 28 if you
would have told us the defense

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held's to 28, I think me and you
probably sit here on Wednesday

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night and say then we might
actually win the game me and you

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pegged it, you know, we roughly
pegged it that we would be

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riding the mid-20s.
They'd be in the 30s.

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I do think.
If the game Flow had been true,

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we had been more competitive
offensively.

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What you're going to turn to in
a second here?

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I think they probably get to 35,
maybe 38.

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Yeah, just because I mean they,
they were definitely Able to sit

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on their lead in the most of the
second half.

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So he just shocking for nor
doozy because it seems like he's

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always loved to run the score up
on it.

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But I think you made this note
in here Brian and it sums it up.

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Perfectly the defense did
everything possible to keep us

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in this game.
If we saw how that game Flow

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when in the first half, It would
not have shocked me if it has

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been 35 nothing.
Yeah.

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Yeah, the defense was able to
get off the field on a couple

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good three and outs.
They were able to get them off

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the field early in a drive, a
couple other times, gave the

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offense, a bunch of
opportunities especially early

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in the game with some shorter
fields, and just did nothing to

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capitalize on it.
All right, so let's flip to the

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offense because I'm going to
piggyback off that from going to

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the defense.
That first drive, we kick it to

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them.
We three-and-out them.

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We send a, we almost get to the
punt.

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Their punter, short legs, it.
We get it at the 50.

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They let you sit here in your,
like, if you had asked me in

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opening set of four plays
against that offense, like it's

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perfect.
Stop them, almost blocked.

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It got a great field.
What the offense did was

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literally just ugly.
They piss down their leg all the

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way.
It was.

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It looked plain.
It looked Bland and you know,

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Brian.
You put on here and you kind of

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mentioned it last night.
There's no sense of urgency is

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just like, oh yeah, let's run
these plays.

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That everybody knows we run.
I mean they knew how we were

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going to attack them and they
invited in a lot of ways, right

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with that Pressman.
Yeah and we you know, we went

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there and the problem wasn't
necessarily that the opening

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drive was bad in terms with the
sequencing but as the game went

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along especially in the first
half, we showed zero Plan B.

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When those kind of shots down
the field work and Acting, we

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didn't have a counter punch.
There was nothing.

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Nothing that the offense was
doing nothing that the play

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caller was doing to change what
was happening on the field.

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It was essentially, these shots
are going to work or we're not

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moving the football and we
didn't to the tune of what 61

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yards in the first half.
Total offense?

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Yeah, it was it was it was one
of the worst first halves of

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offense I've ever watched.
And I've watched a bunch of

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bronstein spring called games
and that one I was pulling my

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hair out and then it got to a
point where it was so bad.

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The first half, like I was I
reached full on apathy by the

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second half, I was like, all
right, whatever it is game is

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what it is at this point and
that's sad because I mean the

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fans saw it to, we saw, you
know, we're pretty much a half

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empty Lane stadium.
That started the second half.

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Yeah.
Yeah, most of the student

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section was gone.
A third of the the other stands

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were empty.
It was it was a very sad

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situation and it's sad that
we're that we're getting to

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this.
And, you know, let's go ahead

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and talk about the last piece of
the offense that I think that we

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have not had success in this
year and it was evident again

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against Pitt.
We did an awful job of

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establishing the line of
scrimmage as an offense.

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I'm not sure.
I mean, we obviously know that

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the talents of Christian Darris
all we knew that that Doug

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Nestor was a solid starter.
I did not anticipate this degree

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of drop-off in the offensive
line and it's not just, it's not

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just the Khalil Herbert has
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the ability to break the big
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That's definitely a factor.
But they're not getting any

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movement at all.
There's no movement the sneak

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with forth and like inches where
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know, the snap count, right?
Brian.

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We're going to be able to at
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They got outside.
I'll tell you what it is and I

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looked at it.
I know you know, French I know

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French talked about it too but
Brock snaps.

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Under Center the same way.
He snaps and shotgun.

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What does that mean?
So, he drops his ass too much

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meaning that he's rocking back
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running in shotgun, and you're
probably running outside zone or

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inside zone or something where
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Zone step, or you know, some
some sort of Either lateral or

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potentially even giving ground
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a Defender.
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When you're under Center you're
trying to drive off in short

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yardage, that's a completely
different mindset and it may

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just looks like they haven't
read that enough where they

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coached him to change.
How he goes about the business

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in that scenario.
Okay, thank you.

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I'm now visualizing that and
kind of thinking and thinking

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about what in a Zone scheme
would an offensive Center is

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having to do, so that does make
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So why this brand or not?
This, if he's not good at that,

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why not on fourth and one?
Aren't you just You know,

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running something like an inside
Zone where at least it's not

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counterproductive to what he's
doing, like listen put in Jalen

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Holston, you know lineup, you
know, Gallo in the backfield is

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an HVAC and let's just choose a
hole and run it down hill under

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Center.
Yeah, and that's a problem

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because what's happening is that
Brock has no forward drive

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because because of the snap, So
therefore you're literally

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relying on essentially Brock's
raw strength and Braxton riding

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behind him.
Plus whatever.

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Let's see.
Des or Caden.

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More were able to get push to
get that first down.

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I like the fact that we're going
under Center.

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That's us, that's a smart move
but if you're not going to coach

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them up to the point where they
can execute it, then it doesn't

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really matter.
It doesn't It's kind of like

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saying we're going to be a
vertical passing team, okay?

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Our quarterback can throw the
ball 30 yards and don't think a

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vertical attack is going to be
exactly what we should do in

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these cases.
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And we said we had to take some
shots against this defense

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because you have to because they
invited they are not going to

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get a ton of other real estate
of in other places on that

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defense.
But what you can't do is that in

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a windy environment with a
quarterback that doesn't have

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the strongest arm in the world.
Just take shots for 30 minutes.

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Know that again, no adjustment,
no adjustment to anything on the

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offensive side of the ball
throughout the game.

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They invited it.
Yes, you're having struggles.

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There's when practicing is
banged up and you really didn't

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see much of a change in that
goes into probably a lot of the

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stuff we're about to get into,
Braun.

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Anything else on the game
before.

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This segment.
No, I'm good.

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But all right, but we get into
the main topic, The Arc of this

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current head coach.
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Now back to the episode All
right.

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So while driving back from the
restaurant last night, I got to

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hear some of the postgame into a
reading on that.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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That's what absolutely.
Yeah, through about to soar

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about to talk about and this is
what I caught and then it just

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reading it and thinking about it
overnight.

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And when I woke up this morning,
it made me think about let's get

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into this art because what he
said was It's my responsibility.

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It's my job to get us to play as
good as we can play to whatever

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level that is.
It's my respond, he accepted the

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responsibility.
That essentially he screwed up

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and my thing is this, it's true.
It's absolutely true.

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That being a head coach.
It is game day.

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Preparation is 100%
responsibility to head coach,

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but it's not the only
responsibility of the head

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coach.
Yep.

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And as for us, I think the way
we feel Are where we are because

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of not just gained a
preparation, but essentially

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multiple aspects of it of this
coach Stan, and what?

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It's all the things that are
leading into the product on Game

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Day, right?
It's not just getting I'm not

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getting the guys ready week to
week.

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It's everything that's leading
into that and I'll let you, I'll

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let you roll with the first
point here.

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Well, the first point, I'm going
to make is this before we gonna

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do the first point.
This podcast at various dates

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and November of twenty twenty
said, the man should be fired.

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Yep, the man should have been
fired.

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My tea leaves and everything
that was going on.

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It looks like that was going to
happen and then we beat UVA in

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15 games and somebody pulled the
plug on.

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I don't know who it was.
And maybe one day we'll find out

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but the first thing Brian and
it's the big Bugaboo its

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recruiting.
And and now stories have started

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coming out and things are being
known.

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And the first point I hit here,
Is you start hearing from

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certain coaches, the Andy bitter
article and we'd heard this

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through the grapevine through
other people, saying that

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basically our head coach does
not consistently communicate

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with top prospects.
At least not to the degree that

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other quality staffs are doing
and even some in the state.

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Especially, I mean, it's not
like, more or less that we cure

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need o to you.
In particular, is is doing a

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pretty bang-up job with
communicating pretty much with

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with 804 757 and Nova there,
they were hit or miss with some

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of the other coaches that were a
part of that article, but that

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makes sense.
I mean, there's, you know, they

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don't need to, they need to
focus on the areas where they

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can get kids to come in, they
don't need to cast that wide net

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necessarily in the state.
Unless there's guys that are

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kind of falling through the
cracks for some of the other

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power 5 schools.
Absolutely.

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But because I say in, you know,
What this leads to though is

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your underlings, your assistant
head coach has potentially

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taking lead in, not doing things
similar because for a top

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prospect.
If the head coach is calling

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twice a week and I'm the o.c. or
I'm the primary or the secondary

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Cooter, I better be calling four
to five times a week, but this

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is the classic lead, by example,
situation being what it is.

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You damn, right.
It is so if he's calling once or

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twice a month, And I'll call
once a week and there you go.

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You start slipping, you start
losing building the

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relationship, so there's that.
All right, let's go with this

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because this is, we know this
happen.

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The mistakes that were made with
the in-state relationships and

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now the subsequent attempts to
repair the in-state

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relationships.
Yep.

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That was known a few years ago.
And the issue though, is, if you

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come in and get those
relationships, well, off the

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bat, you're potentially starting
to get those kids.

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You don't have to repair.
Yep.

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End, and some people said, yeah,
but it's being repaired.

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That's a good thing.
Yeah, it's a good thing that the

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amount of energy now you're
having to take to repair those

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relationships and now you're
having to, you know, we always

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we will back to jepara Parker,
right?

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If we had taken some walk on
preferred walk-on or taking some

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kid out of Highland Springs,
Thomas Dale Oscar Smith five

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years ago, six years ago, when
this man first got here, You

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would consistently have your
shots at those two four-star

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kids out of Highland Springs.
That went to Oklahoma.

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Yep. and I think that's the
problem is that, you know, it

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shouldn't have happened to begin
with the, the bridge is

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shouldn't have been burnt and it
wasn't just, it was a

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combination of two things,
right?

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It was what's, what was
perceived as deliberate snubs of

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certain prospects and then it
was just a general lack of

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attention to the high schools in
general.

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And the combination of those two
things soured a lot of prospects

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on staying home and that, you
know, that in and of itself

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probably wouldn't have been a
big deal.

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But while all of this was
happening, obviously, Penn State

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starts creeping down into
Virginia, North Carolina, Matt

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comes back starts, getting up
into Virginia Clemson.

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Alabama or fish you stay.
Reaching into Virginia, you've

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got those guys were stepping up
their game.

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At the same time we were pretty
much, you know, taking a pass on

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the majority of the state at
least in the way that we should

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have been hitting it.
Exactly the way we should have

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been hitting it.
In the way we should have been

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hitting it, is, are you going to
be able to get every five star

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kid?
No, because, right now, the way

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the state's leaned as people
want to leave and that's but

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what it does if you're getting a
pwo or you are you know, the two

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star kid who Is an okay player
offering him?

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Well, it helps you build that
relationship with the Lauren

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Johnson's with Chris down at
Oscar Smith, with all the

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coaches because you said you
were going to football player to

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be on scholarship, more and give
them a chance.

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And it's a, it's a heck of a lot
easier to walk into someone's

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office and their kid who maybe
had two or three FCS offers and

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maybe one small Max school or
something.

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You give him that offer it
immediately opens the line of

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communications.
All right, Brian, this is yours

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right here, buddy.
How about some unbalanced

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classes?
Yeah.

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Yeah.
That is the big big problem with

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with our roster right now is
that we've been stacking.

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Its combination of two.
Things are going to talk about

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that.
Very next step here, but

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unbalanced classes.
So we are stacking players at

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positions and then you can, you
can you can give me the fist

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pump.
I saw, Matt suggest K the kid.

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Yeah, that was a big.
Big big get out there.

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We gotta Double ought to start
the inning, got a Sac fly to

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move into third, and then we get
to two back-to-back strikeouts

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to close it out.
So that was nice.

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That was nice.
All right.

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So unbalanced classes, okay,
taking five wide receivers in

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the class, then turn around and
taking five defensive ends in a

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class five running backs in a
class.

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I mean, what's the purpose of
having 10 scholarship, running

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backs?
There is no purpose at most.

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You're going to have one running
back on the field at one time.

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Even if you were going heavy
rotation and I mean, I'll say

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heavy rotation.
Where Bob guys 56, I'll say six,

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like you have the all-around
that's a heavy rotations.

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I'm just saying that's what I
will say it out loud.

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You have, you have to all around
guys, right?

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They can do a little bit of
everything.

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They can run inside outside.
They can they can catch some

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passes.
Did you have your heavy guys

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short yardage situation guys?
Which we still don't understand

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how to put the right size, guys,
in four short yardage situation.

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So, two of those.
And then these are my more pass

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catchers.
If we're going to run them, was

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probably gonna be outside.
The numbers are going to run

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outside Zone.
Sweeps 6, I'd say five to six is

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maximum number of running backs.
You need on a Collegiate roster.

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And we got me, even if even if
you're even if you got one or

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two on there that you want to
Redshirt like by Design like

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seven, maybe eight maybe ten
never to.

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And if you got, if you got 10 on
the roster and I'm not trying to

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knock this class this year and
I've got that up still.

449
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:32,900
So I'm going to look at.
We got 10 on the roster right

450
00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:39,600
now and we've got Ramon Brown.
And we've got Bryce Cube.

451
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:45,600
Dip, so no one leaves, which I
think the only genuine Holston

452
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,800
would be the only one who would
be eligible to leave because of

453
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,700
how old he is.
I think heymann them still have

454
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:57,500
a chance, 11, you know, it's and
it's the thing is, it's, well,

455
00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:00,400
we have the scholarships to give
and it's like, yeah, but you're

456
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,100
devoting your resources to
recruiting that position, the

457
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:07,300
devoting your resources to
recruiting that position,

458
00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:12,600
devoting your obviously time and
effort, And devoting the

459
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,900
scholarship like why are we
giving scholarships to positions

460
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:20,000
that we're already set at?
Yeah.

461
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:23,500
It's truly.
Like, I'd much rather throw a

462
00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:30,800
scholarship to a borderline you
know, three star Talent at a

463
00:30:30,808 --> 00:30:34,700
position that we need.
Then keep stacking running

464
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:36,800
backs.
Just just because they're

465
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,400
willing to come to Virginia Tech
or where depth truly.

466
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,300
Chatters.
Yeah, me, there's three

467
00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:47,500
positions that you can never get
enough of offensive linemen

468
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,600
defensive lineman and secondary
players, because secondary

469
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,200
players, you can have a kid
who's playing Corner potential.

470
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,100
He can move to safety.
If he doesn't have the skills,

471
00:30:56,100 --> 00:30:58,300
get and vice versa.
Yep.

472
00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:01,800
Um, if everybody go back in the
day, Kam Chancellor started as a

473
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:07,200
corner and he was solid there,
but he became spectacular as a

474
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,800
safety.
Those three positions because at

475
00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:15,800
any one time, there's going to
be Five Guys on a field at four

476
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,600
to five guys on the field.
So we'll get into the player

477
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,900
retention and a few other things
later on that, and Brian, here's

478
00:31:21,900 --> 00:31:25,000
the one.
I've kind of noticed And I'm

479
00:31:25,008 --> 00:31:27,900
going to go back with a kid here
from the r-va that you coached

480
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:31,500
against that.
We watch develop over a decade

481
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,600
ago.
Anton, Aksum was a three-star.

482
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:38,800
Kid coming out of a Deep Run.
Played quarterback, played

483
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,100
Safety.
It was classified as an athlete.

484
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:46,600
No one knew where he was going
to play when he came out.

485
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,600
Some people thought running
back, maybe he's a wideout you

486
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,400
know if he grows a little bit he
could probably be a linebacker.

487
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,800
Maybe a corner.
We're not recruiting just going

488
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,900
out there and looking at a kid
who might be playing quarterback

489
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:03,500
and free safety.
Look at their body type and

490
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:10,900
saying, this kid is an athlete.
He has he's built, he's 61, he's

491
00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:14,200
205 pounds, he's fast.
He has good agility.

492
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:19,600
Wouldn't find a place to put him
and with this staff to me, and

493
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,900
if I'm wrong, somebody please DM
us and tell us, I don't feel

494
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,800
like we Fruit like true athletes
and just looking through this

495
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:33,500
year's, you know, I'm looking, I
don't really see anyone that's

496
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:36,400
really an athlete actually.
I don't think anybody's

497
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,000
classified as an athlete.
No, I'm going.

498
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:45,300
I'm going, I'm going, I'm almost
to the top. 23, commits zero.

499
00:32:45,300 --> 00:32:51,200
Classified it athlete.
Yeah, and we definitely used to

500
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,300
look at that more.
I know that with 24/7 diving, a

501
00:32:55,300 --> 00:33:00,400
little bit deeper, there are
fewer true athletes in a

502
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,700
recruiting class now than there
used to be there at least

503
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:09,400
slapping a position on them even
if it's not necessarily you know

504
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:15,800
written in stone, right?
But I'm with you because some of

505
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,400
the best players that have
walked through that tunnel had

506
00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:22,800
I've been guys, we didn't know
exactly where they were going to

507
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,200
play when they were being
recruited.

508
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,800
They were just damn good
athletes.

509
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:30,600
They were players.
They were guys on their team

510
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:37,700
that that got it done and I just
don't see us doing that.

511
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:41,100
But when we talk about
recruiting, the other thing that

512
00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:44,300
we got to talk about with with
recruiting and it's it goes into

513
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:46,600
the depth.
Is that player retention, right?

514
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,000
Water percent just before we get
to play retention 24/7.

515
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,300
Currently has 157, guys.
Classified as athlete.

516
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,700
Under now E7, that's a small
number compared to how many kids

517
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:02,600
are going out, but Brian hundred
percent right after recruiting,

518
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,100
it's getting them in the
building developing and

519
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:09,199
retaining them.
It doesn't matter if you recruit

520
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,000
them and everybody leaves the
next year.

521
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,900
But let's start with the biggest
problem room right now for us.

522
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,100
It's a quarterback room.
Yeah.

523
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,100
How many years have proven?
They been here.

524
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:25,600
How many quarterbacks have
started a game for us six that

525
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,000
same number of years?
That's bad.

526
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:31,300
That's bad.
Eh.

527
00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:35,800
Actually let's take Kenny
Pickett.

528
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:39,699
Okay, Kenny F and picket, can he
pick it?

529
00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:41,600
Has been at Pitt for three
years.

530
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:46,199
He has started for three years
and he actually has played for.

531
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,400
He got some time when 2018.
So he's seen the deal for years.

532
00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:55,000
He's had the same offensive
coordinator for the last three,

533
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,900
and Kenny pick.
It is you was we said Brian.

534
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:03,200
Never we, I still don't feel
like he has the highest ceiling.

535
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:05,500
But he never had a terrible
floor.

536
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,100
No, right?
And out the out, the gate, he

537
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:12,500
was a solid player with enough
F, lettuce is mm2 key.

538
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:17,600
Plays alive extend plays or do
that Scramble for a first down

539
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,200
when you need it.
It was always that guy.

540
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,600
He was always the always through
a pretty accurate ball as well.

541
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,100
You know, the the issue that,
you know, we saw it with Kenny

542
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:31,500
Pickett is that for a while
there he wasn't going out there

543
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:36,600
and winning games that He needed
to buy himself a part of the

544
00:35:36,607 --> 00:35:40,100
problem was that they put too
much on him, probably early in

545
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:43,900
terms of him having to do that.
And now that the rosters kind of

546
00:35:43,908 --> 00:35:46,400
balanced out in terms of the
offensive weapons.

547
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,400
Yep.
He's coming into his own and

548
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,400
because he's he knows the system
and and and there's a lot to be

549
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,400
said about chemistry and
understanding the system to a

550
00:35:57,500 --> 00:36:01,700
very rich degree, right?
When you're in it for three

551
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:05,500
years and not just in it.
But playing it live against

552
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:09,500
other competition.
That matters it does.

553
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,000
What does also from a point, and
I think you made this Wednesday

554
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,800
night, you get that on tape and
you can be physically ready to

555
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,100
go, but as you see it on tape,
it's this right?

556
00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:26,000
Yep.
I see what I did here wrong.

557
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:31,600
When I see that safety, move
down my Slants my slams taken

558
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:36,700
away, but if I see him move down
my seam, If I can make that

559
00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:39,300
other safety move to the far,
hash I'm going to have my seam

560
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:43,200
route open, or I'm going to have
my en route in because the

561
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,500
safety is not there anymore.
It's the mental reps.

562
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:51,100
It seemed things on tape and
it's having someone to develop

563
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:55,400
you which Mark Whipple has in
Mark Whipple you know and we can

564
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,400
joke about Whipple offense where
he's kind of combining spread

565
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:03,700
and pro Concepts.
The guy was in the NFL for a few

566
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:06,900
years, the guy has a solid Track
record as being a pretty good

567
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:10,300
quarterback developer.
The when you're going six on

568
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:14,800
six, it says a lot about who the
quarterback coach is.

569
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,800
That you're not making guys,
stick around be better.

570
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,400
You're shuffling guys, out the
door, you're essentially playing

571
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,500
favorites watching Hendon last
night before he got knocked out.

572
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:30,000
And I hope that I haven't seen
any news today.

573
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:40,100
I hope that he can come back but
you know, it not only it hurts,

574
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:43,200
you from the development
standpoint. but it hurts you

575
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:49,500
from doubt, we have no death in
in in, you know, we were out

576
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:54,200
here like O'Connor Knox and it's
like, you want someone like a

577
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:59,800
Quincy and Quincy should have
been They how do you don't

578
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,600
retain one of them?
With all of that is said and

579
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:09,900
done is just strange to me
because I mean there's no way

580
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:12,400
that they looked at what we're
dealing with this year.

581
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,500
Were like yeah that's going to
be sufficient to go out and get

582
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:21,000
a coastal Championship.
Like there's there's no way that

583
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,600
they saw on tape.
And they were like, Yep this

584
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,300
this is going to get it done and
I think that that's another

585
00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:33,100
problem that we're having with
player retention, is that for

586
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:36,500
whatever reason we don't value
depth, we don't value getting

587
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:39,600
guys involved, especially on the
offensive side.

588
00:38:40,100 --> 00:38:44,100
Oh, yeah, I think that's another
problem because we've got wide

589
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:47,500
receivers that are transferring
out because we don't get other

590
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:51,500
guys involved in the offense and
I love Trey and Tay and I feel

591
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:54,000
like they're getting the shit
end of the stick as well.

592
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:59,600
But other people need to get
some of these balls thrown their

593
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,800
way because we need to be able
to spread the ball around.

594
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,500
And we really have underutilized
the tight end position

595
00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:14,300
habitually throughout the tenure
of Fuente.

596
00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:19,000
And it's strange because that I
know the the H back kind of

597
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,700
makes that offense go in terms
of the running game and things

598
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:25,800
like that.
But At some point you just gotta

599
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,400
you gotta figure it out and get
it.

600
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,400
Get those guys involved in the
passing game more.

601
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,600
I mean I know James Mitchell is
out and that's a big blow but

602
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,800
you got to have you got to have
a plan B next man up get this

603
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,500
thing going absolutely and you
talk about the wide receiver

604
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:44,900
room and dude we don't see any
of the younger players.

605
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,200
It's essentially before last
night, Dwayne Lofton had one

606
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,100
catch.
It was on for like maybe three

607
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:53,700
or four series.
You've got to get them on the

608
00:39:53,700 --> 00:39:54,400
field.
Field.

609
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,900
There's no way you can develop
them.

610
00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:57,400
There's no way you can get game
filming.

611
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,800
Tell them what they're doing.
Right?

612
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,600
What they're doing wrong.
And I think what this staff

613
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,200
thinks is, well if they're not
doing it, good in practice where

614
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,900
they don't doing a game and it's
why we got the EFT in 2019 when

615
00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:10,200
they started Willis, because
hook or well, he does some

616
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,700
things wrong in practice and
it's tight and you always say,

617
00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:17,800
Brian, I don't, practice is
great.

618
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,500
But there are certain times you
just have to put people on feel.

619
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:24,600
They have to play.
They had a few if You know, the

620
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,400
limitations of, who you think
your starter is?

621
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:31,200
And, you know, the upside of the
guy that's behind them, you got

622
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,900
to try the other guy that's
behind him and get him some more

623
00:40:34,900 --> 00:40:40,400
reps in the game, so he can take
those steps in the development

624
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,700
process.
I mean, we had a full.

625
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,900
What how many games was it eight
games of Ryan Willis in 2018?

626
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:53,400
Yeah, we knew what the Ryan
Willis was all about.

627
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,000
By the end of that year.
Yes, we did.

628
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,700
I don't think anyone thought
that Ryan Willis was a high

629
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:03,700
ceiling quarterback.
No more.

630
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:11,000
Yeah, if if it's picked day, it
was going to be.

631
00:41:11,100 --> 00:41:16,700
It was going to be a long one.
See opening game BC 2019.

632
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,700
But it's so if you're if you
don't get those young players on

633
00:41:23,700 --> 00:41:27,000
the field, you know, it sounds
silly.

634
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,400
Let's just be hindsight and I
know one of our guys, we chat

635
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,300
with.
They Cokie be fish.

636
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,900
His Remember this comment is
long time ago.

637
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:41,600
Let's chat with him when he said
he's like I think we should have

638
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,700
just played hook or an 18.
We weren't a good team.

639
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,400
Yeah, all day was online was the
bowl street but you could you in

640
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,700
again, if you actually had a
good quarterback developer if

641
00:41:54,700 --> 00:42:00,300
Booker had played 18, 19, 20,
and then come in with basically

642
00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:05,000
three full seasons Where it's
not we're not worried about him

643
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,100
lining people up, right?
He can go out there and do this

644
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:11,900
offense in his sleep.
It's it's the mental reps and

645
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,700
unfortunately, it's going to
happen next year.

646
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,600
I think, whoever the court we're
going to have even though it's

647
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,100
going to be a new regime seven
quarterbacks in seven years.

648
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:24,600
No team is successful.
No, professional team.

649
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:26,900
Most high school teams aren't
like that.

650
00:42:26,900 --> 00:42:30,800
Usually high school teams.
Brian you can attest chef.

651
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:33,100
Jep was really scared a couple
of you.

652
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:36,300
At least get a couple years with
most of those guys, exactly.

653
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,200
We already talked about the
running back room.

654
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,600
It's way too.
Crowded offensive line run.

655
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:46,900
We did this to ourselves.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, we submarine

656
00:42:46,900 --> 00:42:54,000
the depth, we allowed players to
potentially run the room, and

657
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,600
I'd like to that rant that ran
off a couple players.

658
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:05,600
So in that and now You're faced
with a situation where your back

659
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,600
filling and you got you're not
you're not comfortable.

660
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,900
Interior offensive line, you're
awful at tackle death right now.

661
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,500
Yeah, awful terrible.
Absolutely awful.

662
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,600
And this is a, this is a 223
cycle fix.

663
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,500
This is not something that we're
fixing with the 22 class or even

664
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:28,300
the 23 classes, the three cycle
fix?

665
00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:32,400
Yeah, because we essentially
only We have true.

666
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,400
What?
Three tackles?

667
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,500
Yep.
You tackles two new to Silas and

668
00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:45,500
Clements who played Saturday.
In the whole, the the whole

669
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:48,900
player running the locker room
was, was alleged.

670
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:53,400
But when you see two guys, leave
like that and you saw them

671
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,200
getting playing time and whether
you like rotations are not, that

672
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,200
is what it is.
Even the NFL rotate.

673
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:05,300
Sometimes I've seen that with my
49ers rotating, occasionally on

674
00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:08,200
the interior.
That's, that's, that's just the

675
00:44:08,207 --> 00:44:10,000
fact of the game.
We live in today.

676
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,500
It's not what it was 30 years
ago where if you're the starter

677
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:15,900
your, the starter you're never
coming out of here on the

678
00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:20,100
offensive line.
But when you take away, like

679
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:25,300
Hudson and Nestor where, you
know, say what you will if our

680
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:31,300
starting line this year was
probably Hudson its Center

681
00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:34,000
rocket, right?
Doug it right.

682
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,400
Tackle.
With Silas being a swing in

683
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,900
Parker, being a swing guy in.
I know you always mention

684
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:44,100
Johnny, wouldn't be here Kaden.
Getting some early reps to

685
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:47,700
develop himself.
I don't know if we would be what

686
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:49,900
we were last year.
I think we'd better when we are

687
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:52,900
now.
And if you can keep them in the

688
00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:55,200
locker room, and somebody will
say, well, that's just the

689
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,600
position coach.
No, no.

690
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,200
The head coach dictates That's
tough, because if the position

691
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:05,200
coach, I'm sorry, I'm getting a
little excited about this, but

692
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,300
if your bank, if I see night,
it's the position coach is

693
00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:11,300
letting that sort of shit
happen.

694
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:14,400
You go, you pull him in the
office, like, nah, you need to

695
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,000
crack down on this.
You need to not let the players

696
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,100
run the room.
You stop this crap and you need

697
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:23,000
to have a man-to-man
conversation with these guys

698
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,600
about the way while we rotate.
And then you need to give them

699
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:33,600
examples of why we rotate.
But, you know, Start with the

700
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,700
head guy.
It does in we're paying for now.

701
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:41,800
The other situation is defensive
end situation, that's a weird

702
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,100
situation.
But it goes back to Step One.

703
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,200
The stacking.
You talked about Ryan.

704
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:51,400
We saw especially in the Notre
Dame game, not having that

705
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,000
in-depth killed us in the end.
Because I follow the game, we

706
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,100
did not have gas to send guys
after the quarterback, and

707
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:03,400
finally had you had the statue
back in there, but you were to

708
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,800
gas to go after him.
And then last night with the way

709
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,500
they were running the ball same
way, right?

710
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:14,400
If you don't have the ends, it
consistently rotate in.

711
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,400
They can't set the edges or at
least try to eat a, make the

712
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,300
hump and the hump on that Raheem
Blackshear play.

713
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:24,900
Where he went six yards,
backwards, terrible running play

714
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:33,600
there, but You know, it's one of
those things and everybody's

715
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,800
like, well that's University
policy of the stuff that

716
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,100
happens.
It seemed well, you know what?

717
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:40,600
If you actually have a head
coach, Who's involved in that

718
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:45,400
stuff, who's getting in there
and having conversations with

719
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:51,400
the administration's, you know,
maybe something like this

720
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,100
doesn't happen.
But again, doesn't choose to

721
00:46:54,500 --> 00:47:01,500
chooses to go home.
Not talk might be social You

722
00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:07,300
know, again it's a two prong
right there, it's stacking and

723
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:09,500
then it's the lack of
communication with the

724
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:13,000
administration on campus, but
it's stacking.

725
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:19,300
But it's also when it comes to
just overall roster management

726
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:24,900
because if you are recruiting at
a proper clip at that defensive

727
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:28,100
end position and doing a good
job of retaining those players,

728
00:47:28,900 --> 00:47:31,000
then you can afford to lose one
or two guys.

729
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,800
Guys, especially considering,
you know, one of the three

730
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,600
probably wasn't in into a
rotational position coming into

731
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:44,600
this year to were two were.
And but if but if you're

732
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,800
recruiting that position
properly, you can lose two guys

733
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,200
that are possibly part of your
rotation and still keep it

734
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:55,400
moving as long as they're not
your front line players, right.

735
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,700
And they weren't they weren't
the front line players but we

736
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:01,000
had not we had not recruited
that position in a way.

737
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,700
Where we could manage that type
of attrition.

738
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:07,400
Yeah.
So again, recruiting retention

739
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,700
all in one Fell Swoop there and
we see paying and don't get me

740
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:15,000
wrong, towel on garbett in a
maribor.

741
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:21,100
Know they make me feel like the
old-school Tech defensive ends.

742
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,100
When they are gassed up now and
they get beat up at the end of

743
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:29,600
the game, they're not, but
nobody's going to be no.

744
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,600
All right, Brian, well, let's
flip it over.

745
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,200
We've taken care of, what's
going on the locker room?

746
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,000
We've taken care of the
recruiting Trail.

747
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:42,500
Let's talk about game days
because I swear to God, I swear

748
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:46,000
to God.
Our team's juice on game days is

749
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,900
the most by Kohler thing I've
ever seen.

750
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,700
And sometimes it's literally, I
put Her to quarter.

751
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:55,500
And I'm actually going to go
back and say that's wrong drive

752
00:48:55,500 --> 00:49:01,100
to drive.
Yeah, I 100% agree with you.

753
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:06,400
It seems like when taking never
get this team up when they need

754
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:14,200
to be up and often times when
you know the the defense rallies

755
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,700
in gets us up the offense comes
out completely flat and lays an

756
00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:22,300
egg and it's not just it's
sometimes the body language.

757
00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:25,000
It's sometimes they come out and
they don't look like they are

758
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,100
confident about making the play
that they need to make.

759
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,900
And I think that's, that's the
thing that is striking to me, is

760
00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:36,100
that sometimes they just don't
seem ready to, to get the job

761
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:39,600
done in those situations.
And that's a problem in that

762
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,800
goes back to coaching, but the
other thing that goes back to

763
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,000
coaching is adjustments when we
see.

764
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:46,400
All right.
Our game plan is not working

765
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:48,100
yet.
Let's move off of this.

766
00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:50,600
Let's do something different in
the It game.

767
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:55,100
We were taking shots, we knew we
had to take shots that's fine,

768
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:59,100
but you're dealing with a
swirling wind with your

769
00:49:59,300 --> 00:50:03,100
quarterback that probably still
has some degree of a shoulder

770
00:50:03,100 --> 00:50:05,900
injury and doesn't have the
strongest arm in the world

771
00:50:05,900 --> 00:50:11,100
already and you've got him
swinging, you know, 30 yard goes

772
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:16,500
and Fades pretty much the whole
first half and I get you've got

773
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:19,400
to take those shots, but you
also have to mix it up where

774
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,000
they can think about something.
One else, it's true.

775
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,100
You have to make the corners,
think about something else.

776
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:27,700
You can't just keep coming at
them with the same thing,

777
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,600
especially when you don't have
Isaiah Ford out there or Bucky

778
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,300
housing or Bucky Hodges.
We get the money.

779
00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:40,800
It's true.
It's true.

780
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:48,100
And it took him a couple series
to start making his adjustments.

781
00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:51,300
But again, I'll say it.
If ham doesn't make a couple of

782
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:53,700
his adjustments on the defensive
side of the ball.

783
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,200
It's even uglier in the first
gets ugly.

784
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:01,800
Yeah, I mean he he compared to
the offensive side hands making

785
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,500
his adjustments.
Yeah.

786
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:08,400
Now sometimes they take a couple
drives to get going but they

787
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,900
might be a driver to later.
And you like but they get there

788
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,700
eventually get there and then it
offensive ly it's just like

789
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:20,500
there was there was still no
gameplay and change 21-nothing

790
00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:23,700
down in the second half.
There was nothing.

791
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:27,700
It literally took until the last
drive that we finally scored on

792
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,700
to where we found it like oh
maybe we can do this in this by

793
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:33,500
that time of 28.
Nothing is like it's too late.

794
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,800
This needed to happen at 14
nothing but we had our plan and

795
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,300
it was going to we wasn't
working.

796
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,900
We and we finally got a call
from the ref.

797
00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:43,600
We finally hit a deep ball to
trade.

798
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,300
We're like.
All right.

799
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:47,600
Well, now this the other plans
working you're down.

800
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:48,600
Okay.
Force.

801
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,500
You down.
Yeah, you you're down.

802
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,700
You're down 28-nothing at some
point.

803
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,200
You know, there should have been
a change sooner and I get that

804
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,100
there was some drops are
receivers had some drops.

805
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:04,100
There were some missing Flags,
we're not, there were some Miss

806
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:07,000
flag, we're not, we're not
saying that there weren't other

807
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,800
other things at play here.
There are, there were in players

808
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,600
have to go out there and
execute, but we've talked about

809
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,800
habitual execution errors, being
a flaw of the of the coaching

810
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,600
staff, and we're seeing that
again, this this week.

811
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:27,700
And at some point, if you're
coaching staff sees that you're

812
00:52:27,700 --> 00:52:31,600
having execution flaws in a
game, it doesn't do something to

813
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,300
try to mitigate some of that
that's on them, to its own them.

814
00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:38,900
And it's on the head man who
essentially get the people to

815
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:41,500
start making the changes Ages.
We've always discussed

816
00:52:41,500 --> 00:52:45,800
situational play calls and
that's again in game type stuff.

817
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,500
Gained a type stuff.
We're what we've harped on it

818
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:52,000
before.
But when you keep seeing things

819
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,300
and nothing is changing,
eventually, it's not.

820
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:57,600
Well the players you said it
before Brian, we've said it a

821
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,700
lot in the last month, the
players necessarily are

822
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:05,500
executing this play.
If they're not executing it

823
00:53:05,500 --> 00:53:07,800
right, what are you doing behind
the scenes?

824
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,200
Especially when it keeps
happening over and over again.

825
00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:13,300
And I think this week
situational didn't matter,

826
00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:16,700
situational did not matter.
I don't know.

827
00:53:16,707 --> 00:53:20,200
I just much because I mean all
the situational play calls are

828
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,000
like, alright, well third down,
we're going to truck it.

829
00:53:23,500 --> 00:53:25,300
Go to the second down, we're
going to check it.

830
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:29,200
Although when you sit here and I
think I've got a note here, one

831
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,400
of them, didn't we go deep on,
like a third and five where we

832
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,500
had a little momentum.
Yeah.

833
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:41,200
Like you know I think it was I
want to say was I can't remember

834
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,000
who was the drive, just before
they went to 14 or just after

835
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:48,700
they went to 14 where we got a
kind of a good first couple

836
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:52,600
downs and we're in a manageable
situation and we're still trying

837
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,800
to Chuck the ball down feel like
at some point.

838
00:53:56,000 --> 00:54:00,700
Take what the defense has given
you and and matriculate the ball

839
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:02,900
a little bit.
Like I said, I know they're

840
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:07,000
inviting the Deep ball there but
if you're not hitting it figure

841
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,600
out something else, second
quarter bronze.

842
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:19,900
When that was It was a it was,
you know, it was we took a shot

843
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:23,300
on like third and five or third
and four and it was just one of

844
00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:28,100
those like what why?
Like if this was a 1414 game

845
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,500
sure for take the shot try to
maybe you get to catch the

846
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:34,800
safety.
Going in the corner, peeking his

847
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,600
head and looking for the run, in
this case, you're down.

848
00:54:38,300 --> 00:54:41,000
Also, your quarterback is trying
to find some Rhythm and you're

849
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,300
giving him low percentage throws
back.

850
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,700
Back-to-back-to-back, get that
confidence up, Braun.

851
00:54:46,700 --> 00:54:51,400
Let's take a deep shot here.
One last piece of game day is

852
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:53,700
in.
This is ultimately only the head

853
00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:57,600
coaches.
The other ones are how he's

854
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,900
dictating things to his
assistant coaches, but those

855
00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:06,500
decisions when going for it on
fourth down, extra point, versus

856
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:10,400
two points, fakes things like
that.

857
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,100
That is strictly on the head
coach, he makes those Calls

858
00:55:14,900 --> 00:55:18,100
whether to punt or to go for a
long field goal that's all on

859
00:55:18,100 --> 00:55:22,500
him.
Now I'll say this, I think for

860
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:26,500
when they as far as going for it
on fourth down, I think he's

861
00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:31,600
better than Frank was because
Frank Beamer at the 43-yard line

862
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:36,200
on Third and or on fourth and
one it was going to be fine.

863
00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:41,000
Yeah, he will.
I mean, he's definitely

864
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,200
conservative or traditional in
terms.

865
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,400
Of a 2021 coach, but he is less
conservative than Frank was,

866
00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:51,600
every was going for two.
Nope, I don't care.

867
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,800
If it's going to get us up
three.

868
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,500
We're going up to the problem I
have with went a is that the

869
00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:01,200
decisions don't make sense in
the context of the game, not

870
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:06,300
necessarily, whether or not they
are conservative or liberal

871
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:08,100
enough in the situation.
Yeah.

872
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:12,600
And then it goes back into.
Well if it's 4th down, you're

873
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:17,000
going for for it. and especially
if you're the back room, that

874
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,600
you're an offensive coordinator,
Then you have to call the play.

875
00:56:22,900 --> 00:56:25,200
You have to call, you know,
fourth and three.

876
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:28,300
We're down 14, but we're at the
36, I'm not going to take a

877
00:56:28,308 --> 00:56:30,900
field goal.
I'm not going to punt it for

878
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:33,200
potentially a net of 10 or 15
yards.

879
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,700
I'm gonna go for it.
Then, what do you call that?

880
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:41,800
What was your play here?
Because you have to make the

881
00:56:41,808 --> 00:56:46,600
decision, you should be on page
with Yosi to say, you know,

882
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,200
we're running this play because
I think we can get three out of

883
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:58,100
this. for whatever reason, and
you know, This is that's

884
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:00,500
actually probably the decisions.
Things are probably something,

885
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:05,100
he's done.
Okay, home in some but the times

886
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:09,900
where it fails it's just like
the worst possible times and you

887
00:57:09,900 --> 00:57:13,600
just kind of shake your head.
Alright, Braun me.

888
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,300
And you were both history
majors, man.

889
00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:20,300
And this is the one that I kind
of dug in on today and just

890
00:57:20,300 --> 00:57:24,000
started thinking a lot about.
And, you know, you think about

891
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,000
great generals throughout
history that led Lead their

892
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,000
respective armories, whether it
be u.s.

893
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,200
Grant, you know, in the Civil
War robbery lie in the Civil

894
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,900
War, Eisenhower.
They're Lieutenant generals or

895
00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:42,200
their underlings, you had to
have great ones you know you

896
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,600
think about the Civil War?
You think about u.s.

897
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:49,800
Grant and how even though he was
leading the campaign Sherman's

898
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,400
March through the South, you
think about Lee.

899
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,800
And you think about having
Jackson, I wrote my senior

900
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:01,300
thesis on the 1862 campaign in
the Shenandoah Valley, Which

901
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,900
essentially Jackson was able to
keep that Valley from

902
00:58:04,900 --> 00:58:08,700
essentially getting torched.
Prolonging the war.

903
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:16,600
Yep, if you do not have good
Lieutenant, generals Most time

904
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:21,200
people fail.
In war as an inn in sports, if

905
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,900
you do not have good
lieutenants.

906
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:27,200
And I make this point, as I
ramble about our history

907
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:34,200
background about the last two
seasons for Justin Fuente, has

908
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,200
been his worst two seasons,
whether it be as an offensive

909
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:43,800
coordinator.
Or as a head coach because I

910
00:58:43,808 --> 00:58:45,100
look at Memphis when he got
there.

911
00:58:45,100 --> 00:58:46,600
It was an absolute dumpster
fire.

912
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:49,500
Yeah.
Nick Saban could have walked in

913
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:51,400
there and won the same amount of
games.

914
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:56,300
But these last two seasons is
the first time.

915
00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:59,600
He's not really had a lieutenant
general with him and I go back

916
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,700
Brian, and although he was the
lieutenant to Gary Patterson,

917
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,300
You always made the point.
He had a Colo see, while he was

918
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:12,000
with TCU the open guy been
there.

919
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,400
Long time, we go down to
Memphis.

920
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,300
He had Darryl Dickie Darryl
Dickie has coach forever their

921
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:19,900
dick.
He's like 63 years old.

922
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:22,800
They're all Dickey is literally
started coaching 1980s.

923
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:28,000
You come here you'd have buds
experience of close to 25 plus

924
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:35,100
years on you know Frank staff.
In town, at Murray State in any

925
00:59:35,100 --> 00:59:39,700
had Jerry killing 19 every year.
He's had someone to essentially

926
00:59:39,700 --> 00:59:42,300
bounces ideas off.
And now, he doesn't.

927
00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:45,000
How much do you think?
Is that important to you?

928
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:50,200
Go back to, who was Marty's guy
like that, that maybe that

929
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,900
wasn't, maybe, maybe Marty's
age, but just just in football,

930
00:59:53,900 --> 00:59:59,100
as long as better experiences,
yeah, we had, we had a couple

931
00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:06,600
guys are One of our the co
offensive line coach is really

932
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,100
both offensive line coach has,
kind of had had that same type

933
01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:14,800
of same type of clout where, you
know, he would bounce ideas off

934
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:24,100
of them and really use that lean
on their experience in games to

935
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:26,800
kind of make some of those calls
in clutch moments there.

936
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:34,500
Not having a guy that that you
can lean on and obviously 20

937
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:40,300
showing that he needs that type
of presence, given his record

938
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:43,700
here.
I mean it's showing right?

939
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,600
It is, and it is.
I mean, it's showing in so many

940
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:53,200
different ways because with
those guys, you know, you start

941
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,200
looking back where they've
coached and stuff, they've

942
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:58,800
experienced big games, they've
experienced big moments, even

943
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,500
speared, crucial moments and you
know leading up having those

944
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:05,200
guys in your ear.
We have no associate or

945
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:09,000
assistant head coach, right?
Bud, was it?

946
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:12,300
And we did not get one named
last year and we did not have

947
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:16,300
one name this year.
But is there anybody on staff?

948
01:01:16,300 --> 01:01:21,800
Brian that we can because right
now, you know, the staff is sort

949
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:27,600
of compromised with.
It's it's his buddies Bill and

950
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,500
Brad, and Jafar and shy best.
And somebody says, well, shy

951
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:35,100
best, you know, has been
coaching a long time since the

952
01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:36,500
early 1990s.
Yeah.

953
01:01:36,500 --> 01:01:38,500
But he's been on the staff of 10
years for Wednesday.

954
01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:41,100
That's usually you get to that
status.

955
01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:45,400
You get buddy, status on, you
got younger coaches.

956
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:49,600
And when I say young coaches,
you've got like ham and Adam.

957
01:01:52,900 --> 01:01:57,800
You know, and then you got
newbies like JC and Jack.

958
01:01:59,300 --> 01:02:02,200
And you're not going to put, you
know, although JC price has been

959
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:06,000
coaching close to 15 years.
Very rarely, will you put

960
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:10,100
someone that's coming in off the
street in an associate head?

961
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:11,800
Coach role?
Because of the importance of

962
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:12,800
that role.
Yeah.

963
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:15,800
So he has an l and then they
gave him a pretty high title

964
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,500
given that he was coming, you
know?

965
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,900
Yeah.
From out of house, right?

966
01:02:19,900 --> 01:02:24,800
So, and he's done well in that
role, but I'm with you there

967
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:30,200
doesn't there isn't that type of
Mentor type Auction that it

968
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,300
seems that Fuente would need to
have have the success that he

969
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:37,600
liked to have.
And I think the bigger thing,

970
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:41,200
and we're going to talk about a
little bit is that there's just

971
01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:52,400
a unwillingness to really
examine harshly when he looking

972
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,600
at looking at the tape and
saying, all right, we can do

973
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,900
this better, we can do that
better, that's fine, but that's

974
01:02:56,900 --> 01:02:59,200
that shit.
You dear all the time if you

975
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:05,200
need to fully evaluate The staff
members and get rid of the ones

976
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,200
that are not living up to their
billing.

977
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:13,400
Well and, and, and let's, let's
let's talk about first so.

978
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:19,500
So right now, in terms of hiring
firing retaining staff, all that

979
01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:21,700
right now, we have one unknown
factor, right?

980
01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:24,300
So that's Jack, Tyler.
I mean, he still relatively

981
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:27,400
doing the position early
returns.

982
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,500
Are looking good.
Wow.

983
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:33,200
Yeah.
It's not jumping off the tape or

984
01:03:33,207 --> 01:03:37,100
anything like that, but the the
unit is played better than they

985
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:40,900
did last year and he's done a
pretty good job on the

986
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:43,900
recruiting Trail.
Yeah, absolutely.

987
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:46,700
He's done a good job.
And again, he's unknown, even

988
01:03:46,700 --> 01:03:49,700
though he's been here in some
type of role for the last 34

989
01:03:49,700 --> 01:03:53,100
years until you get in that
spot, you don't know about it.

990
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:57,200
And there's not enough animal.
They all the good.

991
01:03:57,500 --> 01:04:01,100
I put four guys in this and
we're going to talk about guys

992
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:03,100
who have also Been on the staff
before.

993
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:08,000
So when y'all hear some other
names don't be surprised what

994
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,400
the good have been ham.
I think what hands done this

995
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:15,400
year is great, especially after
last year what he had to go

996
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:21,300
through Ryan Smith, almost
wanted to make a separate

997
01:04:21,300 --> 01:04:27,000
category for Ryan Smith, but I
didn't Ryan Smith is currently

998
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:32,200
the MVP of he is a of The Hires
because he is not Knocked out

999
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,400
the park in every phase that
he's been asked to contribute.

1000
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,500
It he does.
Great job coaching the defensive

1001
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:40,800
backs, he's doing a great job
recruiting and then the other

1002
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:46,100
two goods are JC and Bill Jason
on the recruiting Trail

1003
01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:50,400
obviously and then the defensive
line overall the defensive line

1004
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:56,600
has held this team in games, you
know?

1005
01:04:58,500 --> 01:05:01,200
In the development Barna
interval say with barn has not

1006
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,800
looking at the, he's sometimes
the statutes not there.

1007
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,200
Yeah.
But he still garnering the

1008
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,700
attention, the old become the
issue with bar know is is when

1009
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:14,000
he no longer garnish the
attention, but he still

1010
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,200
garnering it and a couple weeks
was it, the the second play

1011
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,500
against Notre Dame and that
inside the inside spin move?

1012
01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:23,400
Not the outside spending.
We're used to from people that

1013
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,400
inside, spend move, put that
tackle in a blender.

1014
01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:30,500
He didn't know what he's doing.
They're getting the most out of

1015
01:05:30,508 --> 01:05:33,500
their guys.
They're getting the most.

1016
01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:36,000
Are they perfect?
No, that's why.

1017
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,400
I kind of joked and said, I'd
like to put Smith in his own,

1018
01:05:39,300 --> 01:05:41,700
but what the returns were
getting from defensive line so

1019
01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:43,500
far great.
Yep.

1020
01:05:45,700 --> 01:05:50,100
So go ahead.
I will say, then we got we have

1021
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:53,600
another category here that's
like guys that are doing okay.

1022
01:05:55,900 --> 01:05:59,300
You know, Vance Vice, it's been
very up and down.

1023
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:05,100
It's been up and down, right?
We've had a couple good years, a

1024
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:07,700
great year and then a couple bad
years.

1025
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,500
Yeah.
And we're in the midst of a bad

1026
01:06:11,500 --> 01:06:17,100
year and some of that is
self-inflicted the okay because

1027
01:06:18,700 --> 01:06:21,700
because when you have good and
bad stack you can't just throw

1028
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:24,500
somebody doing bad.
Yeah and he's done a pretty good

1029
01:06:24,500 --> 01:06:26,000
job.
On the recruiting Trail.

1030
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,600
You got coach shy best in this.
In this category.

1031
01:06:31,300 --> 01:06:34,700
I think he does a good job
overall with the special teams

1032
01:06:34,700 --> 01:06:37,200
that that's been probably a
standout unit for this team,

1033
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:44,400
this year to go along with, with
the defense, Adam Lichtenberg.

1034
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,300
I think he did a good job of
managing things last year.

1035
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:55,500
I think so far this year, mixed
return there and I think it's

1036
01:06:55,500 --> 01:06:58,100
hard.
It's hard to really give him a

1037
01:06:58,100 --> 01:07:01,200
great grade.
But at the same time, I don't

1038
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,300
want to knock him because I see
what the offensive line isn't

1039
01:07:04,300 --> 01:07:07,600
getting done.
And there's only so much that

1040
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,500
running backs can negate that
and there's only so much that a

1041
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,100
coach can scheme for that for
the running backs in the gate

1042
01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:18,300
that exactly the last two are
guys who are no longer.

1043
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:19,700
Longer with the program, but
they did.

1044
01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:22,500
Okay, while they were here in
Charlie Wiles, did probably

1045
01:07:22,500 --> 01:07:27,400
better than, okay, you know, he
was defensive line coach when

1046
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:29,200
there were steps back towards
the end.

1047
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:33,300
But if you look at the full body
of work, sure and say well,

1048
01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:35,900
Brian Mitchell the time.
Brian Mitchell was here.

1049
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:40,300
He was okay.
And they both are continuing to

1050
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:42,500
doing a solid job down at NC
State.

1051
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:47,400
So it's not like those guys left
here and couldn't find a D2 job

1052
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,100
somewhere.
They went Another prominent top

1053
01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:54,100
35 40 program who are bumping
right now?

1054
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,400
We'll talk about that.
Take a little later Brian today.

1055
01:07:57,500 --> 01:08:01,100
So there are the okay they
aren't knocking it out of the

1056
01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:06,100
park, but they aren't falling
flat on their face and that goes

1057
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:11,500
to the bad, the falling flat on
your face, looking terrible.

1058
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:15,700
And obviously, no, this is from
Puentes perspective by the way

1059
01:08:15,700 --> 01:08:18,200
and take respected.
There's a few guys on here.

1060
01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:20,100
We're putting on here for
different reason, and we'll

1061
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:23,200
explain why.
But the first ones corn after

1062
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,700
2016 and that year he has not
had anything like it.

1063
01:08:29,899 --> 01:08:35,300
Close to it in 2017 but it was
regression. 2018 regression

1064
01:08:35,700 --> 01:08:43,300
little uptick in 2019.
Little uptick in 2020 and then

1065
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:48,399
massive regression this year.
Massive aggression in this is

1066
01:08:48,399 --> 01:08:53,000
absolutely dependent upon having
talented skill position players

1067
01:08:53,399 --> 01:08:58,500
on the field.
When he has talented players at

1068
01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:01,700
the quarterback position to that
the skilled positions.

1069
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:07,300
The offense can look, okay.
He is not making players better.

1070
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,399
No, he's not.
Whether it's the quite the

1071
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:13,300
quarterback position by
developing them or whether it's

1072
01:09:13,300 --> 01:09:17,800
at the play calling position of
getting guys into areas where

1073
01:09:17,800 --> 01:09:21,500
they can make a play.
Yeah, absolutely not good at it.

1074
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:23,899
And somebody say, well, what
about Herbert last year,

1075
01:09:24,899 --> 01:09:28,600
offensive line last year was
dominant and you know what you

1076
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,000
saw it.
Kaleo Herbert did today in the

1077
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:35,000
NFL that Kip I wanted tip over
100 trunk yards from scrimmage

1078
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:39,500
scored a touchdown.
David Montgomery might have a

1079
01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:42,899
running back mate there for the
rest of the season as good as he

1080
01:09:42,899 --> 01:09:47,000
looked, but that whole piece of
there's no development.

1081
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,800
You can't hold your room
together.

1082
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:54,700
You, you know, you continuously
overturn, a guy.

1083
01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:58,100
And then we see a guy in like,
hooker, literally go to Josh

1084
01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:03,400
hyphal and is already looking
exponentially better, and he was

1085
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:07,700
there spring and fall, and he
was under you for what?

1086
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,800
Five.
Yep.

1087
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,200
Because he came in early one
year.

1088
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:18,900
He was early in 18 or 17.
Anyway, a lot more time to

1089
01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:22,500
develop in obviously corn,
couldn't get anything out of him

1090
01:10:22,500 --> 01:10:25,900
and he's the bad.
If there's someone that if in

1091
01:10:25,900 --> 01:10:31,300
2020, or 2019, Franklin Nelson
had been fired.

1092
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,600
I think if we had a new OC and
we had some struggles.

1093
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,700
You know what, I think part of
the fan base would be like, hey,

1094
01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:40,100
We have to give this guy another
year.

1095
01:10:41,300 --> 01:10:46,900
At least he made the decision to
get rid of the bad peace and to

1096
01:10:46,900 --> 01:10:50,900
try something different.
Yes, it's the lack of

1097
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,300
accountability to guys, that
aren't cutting the mustard,

1098
01:10:54,300 --> 01:10:58,300
especially the offensive guys, I
mean, let's move over.

1099
01:10:58,300 --> 01:11:05,500
We can talk about Jafar, I think
I think that's been It just it

1100
01:11:05,500 --> 01:11:08,800
hasn't been a good overall
higher, especially considering

1101
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,600
who he is, who he was replacing
all.

1102
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,900
Oh yeah, he was also in this
category for different reasons,

1103
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:22,500
you know, I think Jafar has not
made his unit better in the pin

1104
01:11:22,500 --> 01:11:24,400
the passing game.
I think he does a pretty good

1105
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:29,000
job of getting them to work
within the framework of the

1106
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,800
offense, in terms of blocking
and things like that.

1107
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,600
But I don't see you.
Year-on-year Improvement at the

1108
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,800
receiver position that you would
think you would see ya from

1109
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,100
guys, like Trey and Tay for the
time that they've been in the

1110
01:11:43,108 --> 01:11:47,600
system.
And that goes back to coaching,

1111
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,800
and it goes back back to is
Jafar getting the job done for

1112
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:54,000
them.
And if he's not, why are you

1113
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:57,800
hanging on to him friends?
That's a friend.

1114
01:11:57,900 --> 01:12:01,200
It's a friend from 15 years ago.
So it's someone he has a

1115
01:12:01,208 --> 01:12:04,700
relationship with but you which
hires can Been like that and we

1116
01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:09,000
get it but you know what?
The guy he replacing, let's jump

1117
01:12:09,500 --> 01:12:14,200
up a little bit.
Brian, Wiggins was the guy even

1118
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:19,100
after so he comes in for Hodges
Phillips, all Just Produce

1119
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:23,300
right.
All those guys just absolutely

1120
01:12:23,300 --> 01:12:29,000
produce and then you get 2017
and you had like Sean Savoy, you

1121
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:33,400
had can continuing to reduce and
you know, it looked like okay

1122
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,400
this this is kind of this is the
guy right here.

1123
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:41,100
We've got the guy that's going
to you know be really good.

1124
01:12:42,100 --> 01:12:49,100
And in 2018 comes and is bad as
2018 was, you know, you sit back

1125
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,700
and pray Turner's.
A freshman.

1126
01:12:52,700 --> 01:12:58,200
Trey Turner. you know, breakout
season 500 plus yards, 20

1127
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,400
receptions, you know, Hazleton
has a breakout season, and it's

1128
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:07,800
like, wow, you know, this is
really good and Alabama comes

1129
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:16,200
calling and to be very honest,
as good as Holloman was

1130
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:23,200
especially in 2018 with a
transfer from Bowling Green and

1131
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:28,300
a true freshman and Trey Turner.
In Ryan Willis at quarterback

1132
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,600
with the way, the rest of the
team played, that means should

1133
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:34,000
have been made offensive
coordinator right there.

1134
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,000
He would have got the same
freaking pay, he got it Alabama

1135
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,800
and you would have put him in a
better position, you know, to

1136
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,100
kill two birds with one stone,
getting rid of rat.

1137
01:13:43,900 --> 01:13:47,700
So you hook corn, you put Holmen
Wiggins in there and you keep

1138
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:51,100
moving.
And I'm with that and let while

1139
01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:53,200
we're here, let's go ahead and
pivot to the other side of the

1140
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,300
ball.
And we're going to talk about

1141
01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:58,400
both both.
Safety coaches that for

1142
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:02,300
different reasons.
Were were short.

1143
01:14:02,300 --> 01:14:06,300
Were shown the door?
Yeah, let's start with Tori and

1144
01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:10,600
gray.
Dildo.

1145
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,400
The did the disrespect and that
situation still has not set well

1146
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:19,600
with a lot of folks in former
players and things like that.

1147
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:27,400
So fans I mean, It's tough.
It's tough.

1148
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:30,100
Seeing him doing other things
that other schools.

1149
01:14:30,100 --> 01:14:34,600
Well, going to the pros.
Having some success with the

1150
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,400
Washington football team while
he was there.

1151
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:42,100
I mean, Just letting a guy like
that walk.

1152
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,000
Come on.
You said it when we first

1153
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,100
started, this thing a couple of
years ago, Braun.

1154
01:14:48,700 --> 01:14:52,300
I'm you said I understand.
You want to get your guy paid

1155
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:55,300
but you cannot do it at the cost
of a guy who has this

1156
01:14:55,300 --> 01:14:57,600
reputation.
He had been at tech for right at

1157
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,600
10 years, he had put countless
people in the league, he was

1158
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,900
respected, as, probably one of
the best defensive back coach

1159
01:15:04,900 --> 01:15:07,100
has and he ran, he ran the whole
shop.

1160
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:09,800
No here and eby's here and
safeties.

1161
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:16,700
And, you know, it's his dbe's
and safeties played with the

1162
01:15:16,700 --> 01:15:18,400
chip.
They play with a chip.

1163
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,500
They played mean in the whole
piece.

1164
01:15:21,500 --> 01:15:24,500
Wasn't you know?
It's your staff but be smart.

1165
01:15:24,500 --> 01:15:27,300
If you're keeping this, his
salary shouldn't a change.

1166
01:15:27,300 --> 01:15:30,000
He should have never been asked
to take a pay cut, that's all

1167
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,900
that had to happen.
That's all that had to happen.

1168
01:15:32,900 --> 01:15:37,600
If he don't ask him to take a
pay cut and it's in this

1169
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,600
completely cool.
If you would have had him just

1170
01:15:40,700 --> 01:15:44,200
Watch the corners and let Galen
coach the safeties.

1171
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,600
I think they probably could have
worked it out.

1172
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,500
I think knowing, you know, those
guys I think that could have

1173
01:15:50,500 --> 01:15:55,300
worked out but again it's that
whole piece of you.

1174
01:15:55,300 --> 01:15:59,500
Let go of this guy.
And then we had a struggle and

1175
01:15:59,500 --> 01:16:05,400
go find Brian Mitchell you know
late in the process it shows you

1176
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:12,400
kind of it was early on and I'm
sure I might have quoted tweeted

1177
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:16,100
something favorable towards the
new head coach hindsight's

1178
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:17,800
20/20.
It's stupid.

1179
01:16:18,900 --> 01:16:22,000
I don't remember that far back.
I'm sorry if you want to dig

1180
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,300
through my tweets and call me
out whatever I that doesn't

1181
01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:28,000
matter to me I we've all said
stupid things and calling

1182
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:33,100
Somebody else, just funny.
But, yeah, I mean, you know, a

1183
01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:38,800
bunch of Lies were told in 2016
and 2017, they exactly.

1184
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,500
Don't look good.
Now, let's go to the last guy

1185
01:16:42,500 --> 01:16:46,000
though, because his is the most
controversial situation Galen,

1186
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:51,700
Scott of everybody that went,
they brought with him Galen,

1187
01:16:51,700 --> 01:16:58,000
Scott is on par with Holloman,
they looked real deal day.

1188
01:16:58,100 --> 01:17:01,300
One.
Yep, the one, we recruited the

1189
01:17:01,308 --> 01:17:03,600
way their coaches played.
Well there.

1190
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,400
That's the way they play is
play.

1191
01:17:05,500 --> 01:17:08,400
Play play?
Yeah, and Gala was doing a

1192
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:10,500
really good job with the
recruiting Trail, wasn't it?

1193
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:17,400
He was what.
But you know it's one of those

1194
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:21,500
things O'Brien, you know.
It was coming.

1195
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:27,800
It was trashy.
Reality though.

1196
01:17:29,900 --> 01:17:33,900
And he was let go for it.
It was one of those things could

1197
01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:39,400
he have been retained.
Yeah, and I think some people

1198
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,900
would have had an uproar.
Other people have been like,

1199
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,800
yeah, I know when it happened is
when it happened.

1200
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:48,500
But, you know, I'm sure that was
during his personal time on the

1201
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:52,000
road trip, I don't condone it.
It's coming.

1202
01:17:52,700 --> 01:17:57,700
It's a crappy thing to do.
But it's one of those things you

1203
01:17:57,700 --> 01:18:07,600
let him go. and, you know, you
essentially set numerous things

1204
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:14,900
back because reality I think I
also you heard Bud talk about

1205
01:18:14,900 --> 01:18:18,300
him to how about how he felt
good about Galen.

1206
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:23,700
Yep it probably would have been
a much smoother transition to a

1207
01:18:23,700 --> 01:18:28,000
new defensive coordinator and I
mean everybody's like a lodge.

1208
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,900
I'll put that on bad, what he
did was terrible, he should have

1209
01:18:29,900 --> 01:18:33,700
been fired.
I have a feeling that if you go

1210
01:18:33,700 --> 01:18:37,100
look at most coaching staffs
around the country, what do you

1211
01:18:37,100 --> 01:18:38,400
think?
Brian, you think everybody's

1212
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:43,600
choirboys?
I'd say that the scenario that

1213
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:48,000
played out here has probably
happened on at least a third of

1214
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:53,900
college campuses in America.
It just it is what it is.

1215
01:18:53,900 --> 01:18:59,000
And you know, when you have it,
get put out there the way it

1216
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,200
was.
It definitely makes it a little

1217
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:07,400
more salacious.
So it is what it is.

1218
01:19:08,300 --> 01:19:13,200
But definitely one of those
things that It, you know, is

1219
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,500
another red mark against Flint
a.

1220
01:19:15,508 --> 01:19:17,200
So I mean, now we come to it,
man.

1221
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,000
I mean, we're building the case
here and I mean, we built the

1222
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:22,600
case last year we built it
again.

1223
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:28,200
This year, we need to move on.
It's time, it's not.

1224
01:19:28,500 --> 01:19:31,500
And I what I know a lot of
people are like right now, right

1225
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:34,900
now, right now I'm fine with
December and you want to know

1226
01:19:34,900 --> 01:19:37,200
why?
Brian and Trust will million

1227
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,500
dollars.
He's going to do a hell of a lot

1228
01:19:39,500 --> 01:19:42,300
for the new head coach.
Building a recruiting staff,

1229
01:19:42,300 --> 01:19:46,400
hopefully paying offensive and
defensive coordinators at more

1230
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:51,700
top, 25 levels.
But I'm done into my like, what

1231
01:19:51,700 --> 01:19:56,100
if he win some games, if you can
literally with a straight face,

1232
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:01,700
A straight face.
Tell us, we're going to win six

1233
01:20:01,700 --> 01:20:03,400
in a row.
We're going to make the ACC

1234
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,300
Championship.
We're going to go nine and three

1235
01:20:05,500 --> 01:20:06,400
please.
DM us.

1236
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,000
We will have you on Wednesday
night to State your case.

1237
01:20:09,900 --> 01:20:14,100
Yep.
Because I I see a struggling

1238
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:17,000
with Syracuse.
I see us being a grind against

1239
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,000
Georgia Tech again.
The only game I see on the

1240
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,900
schedule that I feel comfortable
putting the W next to without

1241
01:20:23,900 --> 01:20:29,100
the game being played as duke.
That's it, that's it.

1242
01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:32,200
And we know you're weak, 60
years into a regime.

1243
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:37,000
The head man has to go.
I will say this I think there

1244
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,800
are two to three guys on this
staff that the next head coach

1245
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,800
should fight tooth and nail to
keep.

1246
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:47,300
Yeah, and you know, the question
is going to be obviously I think

1247
01:20:47,300 --> 01:20:53,200
two of them will be easier or
people's Smith and JC price

1248
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,700
should be ones.
That are pretty easy.

1249
01:20:56,900 --> 01:21:00,400
E to retain.
If you see a spot for them in

1250
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:04,800
the new with the new regime
regime, obviously the situation

1251
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:10,700
with Coach am is a little
different just because he is the

1252
01:21:10,700 --> 01:21:16,500
defensive coordinator.
And when you do a break that

1253
01:21:16,500 --> 01:21:20,800
we're talking about here, it's
going to be hard to retain a

1254
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,100
young defensive coordinator
because more than likely that

1255
01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:30,000
it's not going to be Who the new
guy wants to put in that place

1256
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,800
he might be willing to give him
a position role and at that

1257
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,300
point you get into are able
someone going to take a pay cut

1258
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:41,100
and a demotion in order to stay
with their alma mater.

1259
01:21:41,100 --> 01:21:43,400
And that that's a hard task for
anybody.

1260
01:21:44,700 --> 01:21:48,700
Especially with the the product
that the defense is putting out

1261
01:21:48,700 --> 01:21:52,500
this year, I think coach
Hamilton's going to have some

1262
01:21:52,500 --> 01:21:58,000
other opportunities and
defensive coordinator, you know,

1263
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:01,600
once we move on from the Fuente
regime so ugly.

1264
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,600
So that's going to be the
toughest piece because I think

1265
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:05,900
JC and Ron are going to stay.
I don't, I don't think that's

1266
01:22:05,900 --> 01:22:11,300
going to even be a question, but
the, the handpiece is the tough

1267
01:22:11,300 --> 01:22:15,200
piece because From where we were
last year to where we have.

1268
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:20,400
Come this year.
It is light years and normally

1269
01:22:20,900 --> 01:22:25,500
you do not see that.
Normally guys who start rough,

1270
01:22:25,500 --> 01:22:31,500
you normally don't see a guy go
from the 100's into the

1271
01:22:31,500 --> 01:22:35,300
somewhere between about 35 and
25.

1272
01:22:36,700 --> 01:22:39,100
Usually you see where he's 100
this year.

1273
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,900
Now, we're in the 80s and now
we're in the 50s.

1274
01:22:43,100 --> 01:22:46,400
Three years later, it shows you
in the adjustment.

1275
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:51,100
He makes really good on the Fly
and I think that's a sign of a

1276
01:22:51,108 --> 01:22:53,000
true, great defensive
coordinator.

1277
01:22:53,500 --> 01:22:58,100
So again, y'all, we've given you
the arc in this is what I told

1278
01:22:58,100 --> 01:23:03,500
Brian, and if I get lambasted
for, I'll get lambasting for You

1279
01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:09,200
can do four out of these, you
can you can screw up on game day

1280
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,200
a lot.
You can make bad situational

1281
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,200
calls.
You can choose to go for one

1282
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,000
when you should have went for
two.

1283
01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:20,400
You can be slow with your
adjustments.

1284
01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:25,900
That's okay.
One day on that Saturday night.

1285
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:31,200
But the other four, what really
makes up how great you can be.

1286
01:23:31,900 --> 01:23:35,100
Yep, it's true.
And and what.

1287
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:42,700
And what do we talk?
We brought up Frank Brown. and

1288
01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:50,000
Frank, Sometimes some game days
we weren't on Some of the

1289
01:23:50,008 --> 01:23:55,500
decisions he made.
We did not agree with ya. but

1290
01:23:55,500 --> 01:24:02,600
overall, for Frank Beamer From
1993 roughly to the early part

1291
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:06,500
of the 2010s, everything else
clicked.

1292
01:24:09,100 --> 01:24:12,900
Everything else clue that we let
guys go and he needed to let

1293
01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:17,300
guys go. you know, even though
we want him to firestein Spring

1294
01:24:17,300 --> 01:24:20,600
a lot sooner than he did and
then he brought in Laughlin, it

1295
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:26,100
may just want Stein spring back
but He was slow to let go of

1296
01:24:26,100 --> 01:24:28,000
friends but he did the other
things.

1297
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:33,900
Well wear And he was producing
for the majority of that time,

1298
01:24:33,900 --> 01:24:36,200
even when he was loyal to his
friends.

1299
01:24:37,100 --> 01:24:40,600
So, you know, some of that gets
a little bit of a pass because

1300
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,200
you're putting a good product
out on the field, you're not

1301
01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:46,500
seeing the ramifications of it.
We didn't start seeing the

1302
01:24:46,500 --> 01:24:51,200
ramifications of holding onto
Stein spring until we started to

1303
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,700
see a dip in other areas like in
recruiting.

1304
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,600
Yep.
Very true man.

1305
01:24:56,600 --> 01:25:00,300
Very true.
All right, Brian before we close

1306
01:25:00,300 --> 01:25:05,900
it out here tonight.
Saturday Pickens you are going

1307
01:25:05,900 --> 01:25:12,500
to live again.
I'm back in at least, 50 50 and

1308
01:25:12,500 --> 01:25:16,500
I went to seven and three again.
Yeah, come on man, you putting

1309
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:21,000
some distance between me now.
Hey, you know, and where it's

1310
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:26,800
getting words, getting you is in
the games we picked against each

1311
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,000
other one and three versus three
in one.

1312
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,300
You know, we got the Friday
night game, right?

1313
01:25:35,300 --> 01:25:37,500
Clemson should not be double
digit favorite against.

1314
01:25:37,700 --> 01:25:41,600
Anybody we got the gqv a game
right?

1315
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,900
Even though I don't think I
foresaw a 40 Burger to nothing.

1316
01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:49,300
Yeah I thought I thought Gunner
might keep it a little closer

1317
01:25:49,300 --> 01:25:51,200
than that.
Wow!

1318
01:25:51,200 --> 01:25:57,800
What a slide.
You see it?

1319
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:02,100
Yeah.
Wow, Miami UNC.

1320
01:26:02,100 --> 01:26:06,200
We both were wrong on Miami
showed Signs of Life.

1321
01:26:06,300 --> 01:26:08,500
Authentically defensively looked
worse.

1322
01:26:09,300 --> 01:26:14,200
You nailed the BC, NC State
game, Nailed it.

1323
01:26:16,700 --> 01:26:19,800
That's the only one male the, I
bet you still nailed it.

1324
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,100
If you, you know, put some money
just on that game.

1325
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:25,800
You have won the okey.
So Texas game Texas, still not

1326
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:27,600
back.
Okey, State looking like,

1327
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,800
potentially Bedlam, could be
crazy at the end of next month,

1328
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,500
because I think okey Scopes got
Iowa State left.

1329
01:26:34,500 --> 01:26:36,600
But Iowa State wasn't what they
were last year.

1330
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,300
BYU Baylor, Baylor wins that
one.

1331
01:26:39,300 --> 01:26:41,400
BYU shows that they were a
fraud.

1332
01:26:42,700 --> 01:26:44,800
Who wants Gus Malzahn to be a
head coach here?

1333
01:26:46,900 --> 01:26:51,000
Anybody Bueller Bueller?
No.

1334
01:26:51,700 --> 01:26:54,800
Absolutely doors.
Blown off by Cincinnati

1335
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,400
Cincinnati.
Inching closer and closer

1336
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:05,300
towards he say.
You never touched him towards

1337
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:14,400
the the playoff, the Pick'em
game, Utah, beat Arizona State

1338
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:20,200
And Tennessee Ole Miss.
I'm sure you were hoping for

1339
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,100
that last drive for something to
happen.

1340
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,100
By the way.
Did you see the lane kiffin?

1341
01:27:25,100 --> 01:27:33,100
Catch the water bottle?
Yeah, I was impressive and it's

1342
01:27:33,100 --> 01:27:36,200
impressive because I think there
were like reporters or somebody

1343
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,200
behind that if he hadn't caught
it, it would have just wiped

1344
01:27:39,200 --> 01:27:43,700
them clean.
And then Kentucky Georgia Braun.

1345
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:47,200
We got that one right to almost
on a number.

1346
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,000
We both said something like,
what 30.

1347
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:55,200
I think I said, 3114.
I think you were like, 2810

1348
01:27:56,900 --> 01:28:00,500
nail, that one?
So, you know, overall record

1349
01:28:00,500 --> 01:28:06,700
bronze at 35 and 37, I moved to
40 and 32 anything breaking in

1350
01:28:06,700 --> 01:28:08,500
the last.
Oh God, hour.

1351
01:28:08,500 --> 01:28:12,800
And 30 minutes, my Braves are
Trying to not it up at the 8th

1352
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:13,500
year.
We'll see you.

1353
01:28:13,500 --> 01:28:18,100
How this goes exactly with
nothing else is broken tonight.

1354
01:28:18,100 --> 01:28:20,500
Y'all go.
Look here.

1355
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:26,200
We hope that this helped you get
some of your frustrations out

1356
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:28,600
of.
Definitely help Vin tires out

1357
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:33,800
talking about this stuff tonight
and I'll wrap up this episode of

1358
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:38,000
The Boundary Corner podcast.
I'm Curtis Wilson, I'm Brian

1359
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,900
Sigler.
Visit our website, boundary

1360
01:28:40,900 --> 01:28:46,100
corner be t.com to listen to all
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1361
01:28:46,100 --> 01:28:48,400
Go back.
Listen to The Liberty episode

1362
01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:51,100
from last year or the pit
episode from last year where we

1363
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:57,000
verbally State Fire this man.
Yeah it seems like pit for me

1364
01:28:57,000 --> 01:29:02,700
every year is the pivotal game
where I say no more, no mas.

1365
01:29:02,700 --> 01:29:08,100
No mas exact Dawn at dawn.
No, but I think I'll just tied

1366
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:11,600
it.
Oh, it's going to be a play at

1367
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:14,500
the play.
He is safe.

1368
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,600
Have all game.
Yes, sir, while you are there,

1369
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,600
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1370
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:26,400
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1371
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1372
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:33,900
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1373
01:29:33,900 --> 01:29:35,800
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1374
01:29:35,900 --> 01:29:39,400
And as always, let's go.
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