Your boys Curtis and Brian discuss the Jaylen Jones commitment to Virginia Tech, Dematrius Davis' sudden verbal to Auburn, their favorite sub shops, and take a deep dive into Curtis' longstanding proposal for an NCAA Draft.
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Welcome back to The Foundry.
Corner podcast Curtis Wilson
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here.
My partner is always run Siegel.
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What's up fellas?
How you doing, buddy?
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Oh man, I am doing good dude.
Taking some time off at the end
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of this week so did not work
today sipping on a little water.
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No, alcohol for me tonight.
I don't know why.
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For some reason I don't work, I
get it.
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Miserable headache and I can't
have a little cocktail with my
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with our podcast today have
actually usually we're rolling
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rolling drinks pretty good.
He's so yeah this week I've been
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back in back in class started in
summer session so I had to see
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and then I had tonight, I just
wrapped up about 20 minutes ago
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so I'm finishing the night with
what I call the Rich Man, Poor
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Man.
So I've got the 12 ounce bomber
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of Richmond, logger, shout out.
Hardy would Good.
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And then I've got the 16 oz,
tallboy of hams.
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So going to roll with the bomber
first and then I'll finish it
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off with the hams awesome.
Dude.
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That sounds like some college
stuff.
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Right there, right.
Go get a nice six pack and then
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finish it off with like an a
tear a beast to get.
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Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
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It's like I've got just enough
money to spoil myself a little
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bit here.
What am I going to do?
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Oh well, this nice little speck
bottle of Guinness is on sale.
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And I can couple that with some
12-pack and Matty.
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Let's let that rod for tonight.
Let's go, dude.
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Hey man, you've been doing stuff
around your house.
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I was going to try to do some
stuff this week here, but the
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rain has essentially killed all
plans because I will try to seal
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the deck and it's just raining
and raining little too saturated
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for that.
When I took these days off a
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couple weeks ago, like my
thought was I was this would be
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good.
I could get the deck sealant,
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you know.
Wife at home, we can work around
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her schedule.
I can get it done but nope, that
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ain't happening this weekend.
So I don't know when that's
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going to happen since last time
we talked I've been doing
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actually a few places like a
living human being Home Depot
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Trader.
Joe's BJ's kind of feeling a
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little more normal, maybe that's
a way to say it, you know,
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that's all you.
Get some Hurley's you did.
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You guys like had friends or
others?
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You guys go out somewhere the
other night.
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Yeah, so we grabbed some grabs a
Wings again.
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A couple other apps and things
of that nature.
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So we grab that headed over to a
park.
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Kicked it for a little bit.
It was it was the first official
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day that Virginia was kind of
opening back up.
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So we were in in Henrico and
kind of threw down some wings on
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some buffalo cheese tots and
they were pretty were pretty
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solid.
And then tonight I had some
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fajitas from the patron and we
got some Some Sarah, got some
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nachos and why it got is got his
quesadilla.
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So it's been a been a good run
here for us on.
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I'm scooping up some solid food
even though we're still doing
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the curbside dance so far.
How about you?
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We had neighbors came up on
Saturday.
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We got her lease, they made some
Daiquiris, had some beers in the
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cul-de-sac kids rode around on
their, you know, on their Trikes
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and other little toys and Jack
rode, his bike around.
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Um it is funny, you mentioned
the quesadilla is like that.
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It's that that's the official
kid food if they go to a, if you
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go to a Mexican establishment,
right?
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Oh absolutely.
Yeah, it's definitely the go-to
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like why it's weird.
He gonna, he doesn't even mess
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around with like chicken or
anything.
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His he just went straight cheese
quesadilla and let it ride.
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Yeah.
Same thing with both of the
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boys, although wife when we make
them at home like we did here
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tonight she slips chicken steak
beef, whatever we We have and
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occasionally, get the, what's in
this, everything.
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Eat it.
It's good for you.
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It's good for you.
Get some volunteer.
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All right.
Well you guys today on the
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episode, we're going to dive
into something that has been
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long going between me and Brian
and NCA, a-- draft.
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But before we tackle that and
literally, I mean tackle that
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this was similar to the
rushmore's thing.
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We were It was an undertaking
done, it was an undertaking, but
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we got some hokey headlines
here.
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First, the good news, Jalen
Jones, the 61 185 wideout out of
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Thomas Jefferson here in the RV.
A committed last Friday.
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You know, it's a little bit more
special when those folks from
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the 804 commit to Virginia Tech,
it just hits a little bit
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different.
I was, I was big-time excited
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when when I saw that coming out
Oh yeah because I think I think
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he's gonna do some special
things for us.
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I think he's got kind of under
the radar Talent right now.
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Reminds me a lot of Cam so I
think we're going to see some
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good things from him in the
future.
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I don't think he's necessarily a
day one contributor but I think
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long term he's gonna pay some
dividends for oh absolutely and
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that Thomas Jefferson program
and give head coach, PJ Adams
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all the credit in the world?
Probably, when we first moved
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here, you the same about the
same time frame.
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They were bad and Cal.
Yeah.
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Now they are respectable
program, something he mentioned,
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I can't remember.
It was with Mark, Davis, Orlan,
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gas, and Dante, but they
interviewed him and he talked
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about sticking it out and Thomas
Jefferson because Adams was not
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there.
When he showed up, they were not
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a good program kind of kind of
tells you that It's kind of made
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out of something different when
you hear that.
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So, that makes me extra excited.
And then you see, here's a cam
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comparisons.
You see the the body types?
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You see some of the caches?
I mean, did he led basically the
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central region?
You know, the greater part of
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the r-va in receptions and yards
so, you know, I really think
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that's no small feat man mean,
you're planning it solid teams
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here in this region.
So I think I'm kind of with you.
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If he's a day one contributor.
But I think a couple of years
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and I think he definitely could
become definitely a definitely a
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player with what we're running
right now.
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I agree with that.
Like you, like you said, with
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the sticking it out, it would
TJ, I mean, so many of the city
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kids and have a lot of talent
end up, you know, fudging their
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zip code.
So the end of playing for
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Hermitage or Holland Springs or
for Rhino instead of one of the
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city's schools, so seeing a kid
like him, If your stick it out,
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do the right thing and you go
out there and shine, then we
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that that says a lot about his
character and says a lot about
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his willingness to not take the
easy way there as we were
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absolutely.
Well, Ron, let's just talk about
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the elephant in the room ten
days ago when me and you talked
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to meet your status head
decommitted, just the way it
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seemed he needed to check out
some other options.
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You know, said he would plan on
making a fish.
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Visits and then lo and behold
last weekend minutes after the
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Jalen Jones announcement mind
you.
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There was an announcement that
he was committing on Sunday at
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11:00 and when everything came
down, Curtis where do you end up
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Auburn?
Let's talk about what happened
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the day before that, though
there was a Instagram post with
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a top-three released, guess who
was not in that top three.
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We all burn guess who was not in
the previous top six, he
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released right after he
decommitted Auburn.
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So we got a little
bait-and-switch situation going
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on here.
We're pretty much everyone knew
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where he was going.
It seemed like between the
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crystal balls on 24/7 and all of
the board speculation.
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Yeah.
And then he tried to pull what
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seemed like A little bit of an
okeydoke late to try to guess
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maybe I've just skate the
situation so it seemed like it
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came out of the blue, it didn't
know because we owe you said it
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last as time something changed
in the last month.
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Leading up to this and then all
of a sudden get radio silence
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and you get a deep commitment
and now you get that surprise
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commitment to a school.
He didn't even list in any of
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these top schools that he was
focusing on.
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So that says to me that
something was going on and for
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whatever reason they didn't want
eyes on the Auburn program until
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everything came down, whether it
was to bring an element of
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surprise.
Rise or whether it was to hurt
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us or hurt another, another
team, it's hard to tell what the
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actual motivation for it was
here.
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That part was ridiculous.
But redeemable now what wasn't
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redeemable with some of the
comments that were made after
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the commitment and I'll let
Curtis take those and expand
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upon them here because I know he
was in his in his pocket, there
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about them.
It got me.
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Know when he said the stuff
about, I want to play SEC
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football.
I want to be part of one of the
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bigger program.
Cool, we as Virginia Tech fans.
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Me you the majority of people,
we know say, yep.
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Auburn, last 10 years has been a
much better football program.
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We will Advocate otherwise, but
we understand where you're
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coming.
From understand where you're
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coming from.
That's cool.
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But then it was, it was, it was,
it was really two things.
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And one was the well Tech wanted
me to come in right away and
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play what?
Wait a second, dude.
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We have three highly rated guys
already here.
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Well, hold on.
So that doesn't seem to Bear
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out, you know, Common Sense like
most of us have and then you
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know, and then he thought that
I'd rather sit behind phone eggs
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and it's just like wait a second
there's bonuses.
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And essentially in the same room
At the guys that we have.
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So let's let's, let's not go
that direction but the one that
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probably set people off the most
was the academic thing and it
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doesn't take a rocket scientist
to do three minutes worth of
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research on Google.
Also in know, in general, that
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Virginia Tech is a superior
academic institution to Auburn
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Auburn 10 core.
Text somewhere like Stark.
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So, you know, that that really
set people off and some people
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are trying to say, oh, they just
miss quoted of you is talking
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about the academics and
rewarding.
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It's like I text him
spiegelman's article a couple
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times and he has not retracted
it.
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He is not updated it.
So either he completely he wrote
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it in completely misleading
terms or Demetrius set.
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Some things that really is.
Not true and he has not done his
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research on Auburn as an
institution either, he can be
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completely.
Use the wrong words to convey
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his meaning, or he doesn't
understand what he's talking
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about.
And, you know, even if there may
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be a program or two specific to
Auburn that might, you know, be
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relative or better than Tech.
What if you're talking about the
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academic institution as a whole
and specifically the target
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programs that he had mentioned
in the past, there's no
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competition.
Yeah.
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So that raises some eyebrows.
It seem like an unnecessary
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troll on the way out of the good
fortunes of the Hokey fandom
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there.
So it was, it was complete.
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It was unnecessary.
In my opinion, it didn't need to
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be said nothing, most everyone
understood.
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I'll bring it.
Has a better football program,
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in terms of what it can do right
for him.
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Yep, I think we understand that
that It's not saying he couldn't
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have had a good or better career
at Virginia Tech that he
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couldn't offered.
But in terms of walking, in day
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one, they offer things that we
can offer right now on a scent.
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And I don't think anybody would
have had an issue.
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If that's all he said and it has
been like good luck to you.
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Have a good career?
Yeah.
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So yeah.
But let's not get too deep into
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that because you're drinking and
that's good.
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We could go really deep into
that.
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I've already finished the rich
man died.
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Ready on the poor man.
You're already killing the poor
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man.
Just hammering it, dude.
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Hammering it.
Hey, let's do it.
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Let's have a little fun, man.
Some things came up this week,
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Chad, and, you know, things on
Twitter and what you?
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Let's go with the top three
chain sub spots for you Brian.
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Let's go. 3, 2, 1.
Start with your three, and I'll
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hit with mine.
All right.
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Three Penn Station, Penn Station
is the winner in this category,
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because they put pizza sauce on
the cheesesteak.
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Take, and they've got fries.
And if you like a cold
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refreshing beverage in the
summer time, they've got a
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pretty banging homemade lemonade
will buy you three for me is
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Potbelly, okay?
Very big fan of pot-bellied
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since they opened pretty local
here, last few years, both good
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hot and cold Subs.
Have an awesome chip brand, but
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the one thing that sets it off
for me is do that little
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pickled.
Pepper thing, they have it's
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just like so money's, like grab
two of those to go myself.
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I appreciate it.
I know about you and the
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peppers, man.
I remember some troops used to
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make it the office back in the
day, you would always loaded up
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on the pepper.
So I I know that you are a
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pepper kind of sewer Peppers,
you know?
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Dude I'll be straight up as a
family we buy bell peppers,
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either three or six every week
so I love Peppers.
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Hi, what's your 20?
To, I'm going to go.
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It's a toss-up.
I'm gonna go Firehouse.
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I'm gonna go fire house.
I'm going to go probably hook
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and ladder is going to be the
go-to well buddy.
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You and number two.
Dude, I'm firehouses well.
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And I think the reason is it's a
bigger sub than pot-bellied but
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they're hot and cold match.
They have some they have good.
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Like, I believe that Reuben I've
had several times excellent
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Reuben for a chain restaurant
and you know, that they have the
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cold.
To.
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So I'm with Father.
What's the other one inch and
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the engineer I think is the one
that has the the brisket and the
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yes pastrami.
I think you're right about that.
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Yeah but just just just a really
good sub just you know every
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like the ingredients and
everything.
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It's you know there might too.
Now I have a feeling I have a
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feeling too and wanting to be
the exact same for mean.
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You just want to thank you hear
Voice number one.
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In Jersey Mike's.
And it's not a question.
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I've got two.
No twos.
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I've got the, I got the number
nine.
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If I want something cold, and
I've got the Big Kahuna, if I'm
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going for for something.
Hot agreed on the Big Kahuna,
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but I love the cancro, the
canker of special that's my
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go-to with the cold, but I think
Jersey is Mike's the reason
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they're one is, if you just want
like a good cold cuts up man,
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they pile it.
And they are very simplistic
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with their ingredients and it's
good.
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The bread tastes great.
They put enough meat and cheese
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on there, where you feel like
you're taking a sandwich and
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then the same with the Big
Kahuna with those jalapenos,
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baby.
Okay.
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Now let's just put it out here
to those listening.
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Subway is not acceptable in a
top three.
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Yeah, I've got no problem with
you.
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Putting Subway somewhere.
But it's not at the top three,
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it really shouldn't be a top
five if you know depending on
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depending on your locality in
your exposure I can see where
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Subway might make a top five but
I mean if you've been anywhere
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that has at least four sub shops
you should not have Subway in
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your top three.
Boom, we're going to end up
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doing an episode of one day.
Cause I'd be good with that.
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I'd be good with that.
All right buddy, I got a song.
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I want to play for you for where
we're moving next.
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Alrighty, I'm listening.
All right, guys, we're entering
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a world where the NCAA has a
draft picture.
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If you will get it, gotta do my
best Rod here, picture event
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roster the baby.
So this has been like kind of
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floated in several podcast in
the of yesteryear.
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But we figured, you know, since
we're in a Quarantine right now,
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we got time on our hands.
We could discuss it.
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We decided we were going to give
the people what they want and
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what the people want?
I think is a more Equitable
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college football, situation.
Something with more parity at
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least more parity than we have.
And Curtis has been, I don't
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know.
Curtis, I'll let you throw it
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out there.
When did you develop this?
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All right, it started roughly
seven or eight years ago when Me
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and you were working together
and you we take lunches and
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breaks.
And I feel like about every once
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a month this would come up for
like two days and we go back and
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forth.
And at that point in time you
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knew my stance I was completely
against all the pain of any
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players didn't want it to
happen.
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Didn't think it was right now.
Even at that point in time, even
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seven, eight years ago, you had
a different stance, though.
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Yes.
I was willing to listen to
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propose.
Rules for players profiting from
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their name or likeness or
abilities mainly because
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regardless of how we both felt
about the situation, literally
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every other student athlete has
an opportunity, except for ones
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that play some of these major
sports.
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So whether their own
scholarship, they're not, they
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can make money off their
likeness name or ability, but
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it's ew, athletes didn't have
that privilege.
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So that's where my, that's where
my take was.
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It seemed like Curtis if he was
going to take a dive off here.
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He wanted something a little bit
more revolutionary, there's no
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reason to play it safe in that
case on because my thought was
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when you always talked about
that was well Whoever has the
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biggest boosters or just going
to essentially higher the top
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prospects.
If you got a booster who's worth
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60 million dollars, um, come
here son, come on over here.
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60,000, talk about my car
Dealership whatever.
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But as you slowly through this
conversation, you you sort of
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kind of grinded at me over those
few years because you hit some
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really good valid points.
But then like, I can remember
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like one of the days.
I first brought up the idea and
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it hit me and I said it to you,
but like revolutionary idea.
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And the idea was this, when I
said it, I'm sure Brian's face.
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Your face is I gave me one of
those who still looks but I
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said, hey Brian, we pay the
players but if we pay the
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players they get drafted, he
said it and my first immediate
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reaction was nah, that's not
going to happen.
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That's fine.
That wouldn't be feasible.
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It removes the idea of
scholar-athlete almost
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completely since a prospect
wouldn't be able to choose where
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they would go if they're being
drafted.
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But as Curtis started explaining
what he was talking about.
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There's actually a little bit of
a solution to that conundrum and
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I'll let Curtis dive in a little
bit more here and tell you what
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that solution is.
Yeah.
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And we're going to get to that,
won't you?
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Hold it because it's like, it's
got to be layered, right.
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Because if they start going all
over the place, people will be
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like what the bleep did you guys
talk tonight.
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But the one thing I can't Brian,
during this time that always
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done, he really he challenged me
on certain Except some of my
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original ideas.
He play Devil's Advocate even
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though at times there was no
reason to play Devil's Advocate
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with so many of the ideas and
points I've come up with.
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So we walking around break just
chitchat.
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Like what about this?
And you'd be like, poke poke
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poke be like damn you.
But I, but I really appreciate
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it.
Because it made me think more
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and more about this.
And in reality, it really isn't
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just my piece is both of our
pieces because without Brian
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being that devils, Advocate
without essentially playing that
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person who, you know, I'd come
the idea into here it is.
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What do you think?
You poke the holes?
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I go back to the drawing board
is really both of our
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dissertation on this type
subject.
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Yeah, I was good at poking, the
whole wall.
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So and then cried said,
encourage back in the lab and
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he'd come back at me we you
know, one solution.
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Would fill one hole and
sometimes open another.
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Sometimes he'd seal it up, good
on the least on one side of the
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ship.
I wouldn't say that what we were
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about to present here is better
than the current system.
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But I would argue it certainly
is no worse and is more
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Equitable.
And if that's what we're
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shooting for then this you know
might have some legs in a
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Twilight Zone.
It is also again, I think pot
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probably a complete pipe dream
that we have fun with and we
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thought we would let you in on
some of this, this brain.
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Lab Behavior.
Curtis is showing trying to fix
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college sports.
First of all, pipe dream.
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Hell, this is going to be the
way it goes one day and we might
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be in our 60s when it happens
and we will be commissioned in
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it.
Me and you were going to work
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out.
Getting some, we're going to get
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the what's the rights man?
And that when you have the ideas
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God you know intellectual
property rights, there you go,
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it electrical property rights.
Thanks it wasn't coming there.
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The intellectuals kind of gone
today.
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But the first thing we had to do
was I had to start somewhere and
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say, well who's a part of this
draft and, you know, I'm just
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going to be straight up, I'm
sorry.
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Group of five schools, Old
Dominion Georgia, Southern and
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the rest of y'all and all you
long-term non-major,
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Independence.
Sorry, Liberty.
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You're not involved.
So it's really you're looking at
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all the power, five schools
along with Notre Dame and BYU,
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I'm Sardar me, guess you're an
independent long-standing, but
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we cannot start partnering you
with having this potential when
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navy Air Force Camp.
Plus I get a feeling this
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service institutions wouldn't
want to be a part of this
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anyway.
Their things they don't even
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release about some of their
players and some of their
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scholarships.
So I'm sure there'll be some
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part of like, nah, we're good.
We're on a different level than
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that.
So, so that's it.
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We got 66 teams.
All right.
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So first thing here, for the,
for those done.
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The 66, they will unfortunately
be resigned to get the leavings
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of the power 5 program.
Should they choose?
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Not to accept the power 5 draft?
Designations They also may not
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be able to support themselves
since, I'm not certain that the
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financials will be the same.
Once all these changes are in
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place, the first holds I'd like
to poke in here is like let's
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talk about television money.
And the teams that draft not
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wanting to play teams that don't
the same way that power 5 and G
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five schools currently play.
Well, I think first brine you
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talk about them playing, I think
that's still going to happen,
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you know?
There is still going to be money
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out there for p52 fake G5 to say
hey come down first week in
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September, here's million
dollars.
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They're not going to turn those
down but also the G5 is actually
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going to have in a little while
here.
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You're going to hear some
benefits that they have that the
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P5 don't have concerning players
so hold tight for that man.
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You know.
So the P51 privy to certain
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things that the G5 are now as
far as supporting Cells.
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I even think with the things I'm
going to lay out and we're going
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to discuss here, there's still a
market for gm5 amongst fans
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amongst recruits.
I mean their games are still
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being watched.
I mean, Brian you take last year
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UCF temple on Thursday night
competing with the NFL still
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pulled like 1.8 million people
on ESPN to watch it.
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That's not small number and then
you think about like, mac ssion
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and the, the fun belt on Tuesday
and Wednesdays.
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They're pulling anywhere from
650, 700, 800 thousand people
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watching.
So the markets are still, there
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we are football-loving society
and I don't foresee them losing
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it all now.
I think what probably will have
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to happen if this were ever to
be implemented.
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I think they'd have to take a
hard look About who they pay
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versus who just gets a
scholarship.
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But I think this is just going
to be just it's still the devil
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but it's just a different type
of devil that again that we're
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looking at making college
football as a whole more
447
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,300
equitable.
Okay, okay, so you're thinking
448
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:55,300
that with the measures that are
in place and with some of the
449
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:59,800
cost saving features coupled
with some of the extra media
450
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,900
Revenue coming in that they're
going to be just fine.
451
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:04,800
Absolutely.
I think they're going to be just
452
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,600
fine.
Plus, you know, I can't wear a
453
00:28:09,608 --> 00:28:12,600
football of them society and the
one thing I'm going to bring up
454
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:18,000
here later is going to be about
the money for that G5 / P 5,
455
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,300
which I think you're going to
like a lot but but now hey I got
456
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:25,000
66 team established.
We got it right.
457
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:30,400
Okay, we got 6666 but like any
draft you can't just throw out
458
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,900
big number Birds, whatever,
whatever.
459
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,100
So I started doing some research
and I kind of effort it in
460
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:40,600
effort and looked and said, all
right, eight rounds feels right?
461
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,000
It's about 528 prospects.
That's where I feel.
462
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,800
That's going to be the size of
this draft.
463
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,900
There's a to see Your picks for
these 66 teams.
464
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,100
Okay, so you got eight round, 66
teams.
465
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,600
Obviously theoretically eight
pigs per team so I like the
466
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,900
number in terms of not being,
oh, nurse Lee, long of a draft
467
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:05,600
and problematic from a
logistical standpoint.
468
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,300
Got a couple questions for you
though.
469
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:13,500
All right, normally recruiting
cycle has 18 to 26, 25 26,
470
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:16,200
scholarships available,
depending on De partie players,
471
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,900
transfer as things of that
nature.
472
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:21,600
Where are the other players
coming from to fill out the rest
473
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,100
of the roster and is they're
going to still be traditional
474
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:31,800
recruiting for those sub 8786 re
caliber players because if we're
475
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,700
talking about 528 prospects,
we're talking about pretty much
476
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:39,500
all the five and four-star guys
and a good number of high three
477
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:41,500
stars.
Absolutely.
478
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,600
Yep.
It's theoretically eight picks
479
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,600
and then you know, some things
can happen that will be touched
480
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,500
on later.
Or about the theoretical eight
481
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:54,000
picks but for the players who
aren't drafted and we hit them
482
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,800
first.
They're just going to be going
483
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,600
through their normal recruiting
process for them.
484
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,200
It's their decision where they
want to play and you are kind of
485
00:30:02,208 --> 00:30:03,500
right about that ranking
caliber.
486
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,300
Twilight looked at eight rounds
because that's roughly your
487
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,100
five-star.
Your lead of a leak to your very
488
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:14,600
high three borderline for.
But also So it's a very
489
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,300
interesting number of how
coaches have to sell kids
490
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,400
because it's not a tiny number.
Like, oh, you've got to sell
491
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,700
three kids that get drafted.
That's, that's not that overly
492
00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:25,700
difficult, right?
Yeah, but it's not like, oh,
493
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:29,200
we're gonna do 26 rounds.
First of all, we'd be here for
494
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,200
three weeks, and that wouldn't
be fun for anyone.
495
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,100
So they still have to, they
still have to kind of sell a
496
00:30:37,108 --> 00:30:39,900
kid.
And for the kid, I mean, you see
497
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:42,900
so many guys get so excited
about getting drafted, even if
498
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:45,300
it's in the Seven, six and
seventh rounds.
499
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,000
It's kind of a symbol.
I'm one of the best.
500
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,400
I was chosen by a power five
team or one of the major
501
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Independence to play football
for them.
502
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,200
The kind of, like a badge of
honor to say, you got drafted in
503
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,400
this.
Okay.
504
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,000
So it seems like if you're a
power, five School scouting and
505
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,900
selling their pick is still
going to be very important
506
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,800
because if it turns out, you
know, whether the recruiting
507
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,500
turn sour or more taper, Feels
that they are who you thought
508
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:17,100
you were.
You don't exactly have the
509
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:22,100
ability to Pivot to like a high
3 or a low for Star playing be
510
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,200
like you would under current
recruiting is all those guys are
511
00:31:25,208 --> 00:31:26,500
already going to be on other
teams.
512
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:30,400
So you'll have to try to sell an
undrafted player that played for
513
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,600
you is better than going to a G5
school at that point or you'll
514
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,600
have to find someone on the
transfer portal.
515
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,800
And since were there Curtis,
what's the transfer portal going
516
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,300
to look like in the system.
I helped us before I had to try.
517
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:48,400
A, I'm going to agree with you
100% on this, The Scouting, how
518
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,100
you sell your flow G finding
culture, if it's there, still so
519
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:56,900
important in doing this.
But to your point it kind of
520
00:31:56,908 --> 00:31:58,400
starts, this is where I'm
talking.
521
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,000
We're talking about the
Equitable, it starts, leveling
522
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000
the playing field.
That if a team doesn't have
523
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,200
three tier 1 options at a
physician's, your Scouts better
524
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:13,000
be right about those lower guys
because that's where so many of
525
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,100
the elite You know, they're old
middle linebacker went down.
526
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,800
What does that matter?
They had the third best middle
527
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,500
linebacker in their recruiting
class the year after he came, it
528
00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:29,000
doesn't hurt them at all
compared to a lot of players and
529
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:33,400
it's to me why we look at this
and you see that we've had a
530
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:38,400
playoff for six years, only 11
teams that went behind on the 11
531
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,300
teams have went to that.
So there's really no parity in
532
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:44,600
it at all for me.
I'm all with the new transfer
533
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,600
rules for those players.
Now, there are going to be we'll
534
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,200
discuss it when we get to the
financial point.
535
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,700
There are some Financial
consequences when kids do choose
536
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:57,900
to make that decision, it's
going to be highlighted as we
537
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:01,000
cover the salary portion of the
conversation.
538
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,600
Okay, so we've got the inherent
benefits and the fact that
539
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,700
you've still got to recruit
under this system.
540
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,000
All right.
Let's take a look at the draft
541
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,300
itself.
First, what type of draft are
542
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:18,100
we?
Having second are their trades
543
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:22,900
going to be allowed in this
draft and third, if they are, if
544
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:27,300
they are going to be allowed,
would it be a pic package or
545
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:30,900
would players be involved and
forth?
546
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:33,900
What are the ramifications of
drafting a player that, you
547
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:35,500
know, won't play for your
school?
548
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:40,200
Both for that player and for the
school and those are really all
549
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,100
good legitimate questions of how
this goes.
550
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,500
First of all, this is a complete
lie.
551
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,200
Lottery style selection and for
the first year you do it you
552
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,300
would drop all sixty six teams
in.
553
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:57,400
Pick them up one through 266.
How that turns out is after that
554
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,000
you're looking at 33 and 33.
So for example if you are in the
555
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,900
first half of the first 66, the
next flick you're going to be in
556
00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:08,800
the back half and you're going
to flick it, split it up like
557
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,900
that.
I hope that does.
558
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:12,400
That make sense?
You'll be rotating every year
559
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,500
you're going to be at the front
half.
560
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,600
Of the 33 of the back half of
the 33 and where you are is
561
00:34:16,607 --> 00:34:21,400
going to be essentially, you
know, completely random.
562
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,300
So you cannot tank to get extra
balls.
563
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:30,300
You get one ball only but it's
also going to be a snake draft.
564
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,699
So, thank for most of us, you
play Fantasy Football.
565
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,900
Snake draft is how we do it
again.
566
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:39,400
This is where the selections
kind of level out, you pick the
567
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,900
highest, you know, five star
because you had the second pick.
568
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:47,100
Well, now you're having to wait,
what is that close to?
569
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:50,600
What almost 130, pixel, 800-plus
pics?
570
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,400
Yeah, to make your second picks.
So all those teams who are at
571
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,800
the back half one year, you
know, they have that potential
572
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,800
to get like we're going to get
maybe a top 60 and then a top,
573
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,600
80 Guy versus, if you're picking
up front we're getting one of
574
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,800
the elites but now again how we
Scout, this guy's going to be
575
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,000
kind of important.
So you know, Those things are
576
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,800
pretty big on that.
Now, there are they will be no
577
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,500
trades allowed, okay?
Yes, none.
578
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,700
You can't do it.
It's theirs.
579
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:25,800
You can't be saying we're going
to do this pick in this picture.
580
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,800
This big.
Nope, you're getting eight
581
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,400
players whether you like it or
not, not unless if you draft a
582
00:35:32,408 --> 00:35:36,100
player and they do not signed to
play for you, they're going to
583
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:40,500
have Financial consequences.
But I'll get to that later, but
584
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:42,800
there are two things that can
happen if they signed with one
585
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,200
of the other 65 schools.
First of all, that's cool.
586
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,900
Will relinquish their pick in
the next year's draft for the
587
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:54,600
same round.
So let's say your School of
588
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,400
Choice chooses a quarterback at
18, he doesn't want to play for
589
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,700
you.
I'm going to this school.
590
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:03,500
Well, if that's cool, chooses to
sign in, guess what?
591
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,400
You get there.
One pick the next year, some
592
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,800
compensation.
So again, Then how you recruit,
593
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:11,800
that's who really wants that
guy.
594
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,300
He thinks he's worth it.
Well, you better hope that the
595
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,600
next year, he is worth it
because you're not going to have
596
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,000
one of those little eat 66
players to go there.
597
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:24,100
Now, here's kind of the downside
of it but good for the G5
598
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:26,600
schools.
If the school below, if that
599
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,200
kids used to go to a G5 school,
you're out of luck.
600
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,500
So, you know, you still have to
recruit two players, and you
601
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:40,400
have to know them, when you
draft them, that you draft on,
602
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,500
you know, they're going to walk
on campus and start playing for
603
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:47,100
you, okay?
Okay, so notes, all these teams.
604
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:50,700
If this ever goes down, do not
put yourself in a John Elway,
605
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:55,000
your Eli Manning type situation
because you will get screwed.
606
00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:59,700
And you might waste a pick and
even if you get a compensatory
607
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:03,700
pick, you're putting yourself
one cycle behind on some of
608
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:06,400
these teams because you're
essentially throwing away up a
609
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,600
high caliber player for one
year, exactly.
610
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:13,600
All right.
So lottery draft order with a
611
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,400
snake format.
So now we've got the players are
612
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,600
drafted.
Let's talk about financials.
613
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:21,600
That's one of the biggest
selling points for the system.
614
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,300
Yeah, it is.
Now, you're exactly right with
615
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:28,100
the eel.
Eli and John Elway, comparison,
616
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,800
Steve.
Why you've got to recruit?
617
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,500
You've got to get to know these
guys.
618
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,500
Now, there is some compensation
for losing a guy, so it's not a
619
00:37:34,508 --> 00:37:37,400
complete waste.
But to your point you just made
620
00:37:37,700 --> 00:37:41,300
if you just tried to take a guy
and he had no interest in
621
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:43,500
signing, he left.
Yeah, you got a compensatory but
622
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:46,200
guess what?
Well now you've got to figure
623
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,200
out one of the other guys either
in your draft or one of the
624
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,800
undrafted guys that you're
recruiting, can you get somebody
625
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,100
similar order your point?
Well, the next You're going to
626
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,400
have an extra pick but okay,
great.
627
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,300
That's next year that doesn't
help you.
628
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:06,600
One thing about college as we
know every year, so you don't
629
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,500
want to throw away a selection.
I mean, you got some
630
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:14,300
scholarships toward the low end
that, you know, you take risk on
631
00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:18,100
guys, but you don't want to be
throwing away, your, your eight,
632
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:21,300
top recruits for a from a cycle.
And knowing one of them is just
633
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:23,400
not going to be there and give
you any production.
634
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:26,800
Absolutely.
All right, so Financial Peace.
635
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:29,400
Well, here's the big piece, all
the division.
636
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,300
One programs P5 Independence,
have the option to pay their
637
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:36,800
players.
A set amount of twenty thousand
638
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,800
dollars per year along with
their scholarship.
639
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,000
Now, amazing programs,
discretion of how many players
640
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,800
you take, now the maximum
quality players, 85 that's going
641
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,300
to be the max number of paid
players.
642
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:54,800
So we will essentially Match
that.
643
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,000
So if you have 85 guys on
scholarship, those are the 85
644
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,000
guys, essentially getting paid.
So the program chooses to pay
645
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:08,400
all ages.
It is only a grand total.
646
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,600
Brine of 1.7 million a year.
I mean, that's what do you think
647
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,700
of that?
Um, that's that was my first big
648
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:19,100
question.
When it came to the financial
649
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,200
side of his is this additional
budget to pay players.
650
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,900
Where is it coming from?
I know additional media proceeds
651
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:28,700
were coming to play because the
more parody that you see in a
652
00:39:28,707 --> 00:39:32,400
league, the more people tune in
and watch because there's more
653
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,200
people that have steaks and, and
steaks that go beyond, just
654
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:39,900
whether or not a team wins or
loses and whether or not a team,
655
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,700
you know, gets them that pearly
that they've been looking for.
656
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:50,100
You know, bookies aside so when
we look at so we got a digital
657
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,900
media proceeds from that are
open up to the university as a
658
00:39:52,908 --> 00:39:55,600
result of that from the
conference in the n-c-double-a.
659
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,900
So that's going to be a portion
of it.
660
00:39:56,900 --> 00:40:00,800
But I think there would likely
still be incentive to pay.
661
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,500
Only players that were drafted
versus the entire 85
662
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:08,100
scholarships under this
proposal.
663
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:12,700
But you know, if you've got the
resources, you might be able to
664
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:14,400
pay them all.
I think some of it's going to
665
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,600
depend on what your, what Your
boosters can do.
666
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,600
I don't know what what that's
going to look like.
667
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,700
But in terms of being able to
pump money into a program, is
668
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:26,300
that going to help still help
those programs in a way?
669
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,100
Well you know I mean that's what
it's going to be the decision of
670
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:33,200
each University.
Everybody's going to have their
671
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,000
bottom lines.
They look at and you know how
672
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,900
they decide to give you a
potential future monies and all
673
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:41,200
that.
But I mean, we talked about it
674
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,500
last week, we would Virginia
Tech The football program had
675
00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:50,200
profits last year of 23 million
dollars, dude, 1.7 million ain't
676
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,200
even 10% of that and wear one of
those in the, in the, in the
677
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,400
30s.
And, you know, there's some
678
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,700
programs clearly behind us.
So, again, the schools have to
679
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:06,400
determine that, but again, the
big piece is to your point.
680
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,400
You just made Your Iowa State.
And I knew I was States now
681
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,200
better under Matt Campbell, but
for years, they were a doormat.
682
00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:18,200
You're getting better players,
your more competitive team for
683
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,200
more people are coming.
More people are watching you on
684
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,900
TV so you're probably going to
see money.
685
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:26,000
Come back to the program
regardless, okay?
686
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,100
So more money is coming in.
It would be nice for the NCAA to
687
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,100
maybe come off of some of their
money to help these
688
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:36,400
universities, you know, meet
that bottom line, and not have
689
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:44,500
to cut sports or or rely on
these extra donors to fund the,
690
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,300
the system, the new draft
system.
691
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,700
But I don't foresee the NCAA
necessarily changing their
692
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,000
allotments to the conference's.
What about you?
693
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:56,900
Well, I mean, I think what
you're gonna see is the school's
694
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:59,100
potential are going to see a
windfall from a deal cover in
695
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:02,100
this draft because we know
people watch.
696
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,200
I mean, you take a look at
national Signing Day When It
697
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,200
Happens.
ESPN, FS1.
698
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,600
Be a sport.
They're all on top of it so
699
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,100
they're clearly covered it up.
So you don't think if you have a
700
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:18,500
draft where they're talking
about the best high school
701
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:23,600
players with 66 of the most
popular teams, I think there's
702
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,700
some help right there man to
help those salaries.
703
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,400
Yes.
The NCAA is going to cover that,
704
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,100
cut it up to the conferences in
the schools that would cover it.
705
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:36,800
Because I know what networks for
the NFL draft, I think paid a
706
00:42:36,808 --> 00:42:39,600
total of 440.
Billion to the NFL to cover the
707
00:42:39,607 --> 00:42:43,900
draft last year.
So even if the n-c-double-a made
708
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,300
you know 1/40 of that that would
be enough to cover the
709
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:52,400
additional amount to pay all
8685 scholarships for every NCAA
710
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,400
team.
That's a part of the draft.
711
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:59,200
Absolutely Manning.
Just a billion dollars, you know
712
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,600
billion dollars to some programs
to help them out.
713
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:08,000
I don't think that now let me
call me kind of slip in I think.
714
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,300
This, the NCAA would be smart to
aim for like a Thursday, Friday,
715
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:15,800
Saturday, like in January, after
the national championship game
716
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,300
before before NFL, playoff games
are kind of in their big for
717
00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:26,000
those weekends because you still
essentially we're going to
718
00:43:26,008 --> 00:43:29,900
eliminate the early 90s early
signing period and we're going
719
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:33,000
to go back to the old school.
You sign in February, so you're
720
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,400
going to have a draft and a few
weeks later national Signing
721
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,700
Day.
So there's that kind of Of the
722
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:43,000
time frame in there where they
can carve out a little three-day
723
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,200
spot where fans like me and you
folks, we talked with our
724
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,100
friends of other teams.
Well, who's not sitting down to
725
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:52,600
see who your rival or soon,
who's getting, I taken?
726
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:55,900
It's true, man.
I think you know, talking about
727
00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:59,400
that Pro Bowl weekend is
probably a very good week in the
728
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,000
lookout because it's a couple
weeks ahead of Nationals the
729
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,900
traditional national Signing
Day, but it's on a weekend where
730
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:09,600
you're not competing with the
All that much, especially if you
731
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,500
get into Thursday Friday and
Saturday, especially if you're
732
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,200
doing something in the daytime
on on Saturday.
733
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,600
I think you're going to be fine
there.
734
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,700
So I think Pro Bowl, we could
really turn into something.
735
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:26,200
That's about more than just, you
know, the guys that were good
736
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,300
but our thing in the Super Bowl,
playing an exhibition do that,
737
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,200
actually, I love that idea man,
because if you really have it,
738
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,900
you have so many pro bowlers
there, who could announce two
739
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:41,600
picks for Alma maters.
And I know earlier and we
740
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,500
brought him up a couple times.
You had some questions about the
741
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,000
financial side where we finally
got here.
742
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:51,300
We're through the draft when it
probably should take place.
743
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,600
What type of draft it is, but we
are now here.
744
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,500
It's so, we're talking about per
athlete now.
745
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:02,900
So we've kind of address, the
big picture Financial.
746
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:07,000
Let's look, let's take a look at
the individual, how it affects
747
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,400
an individual student Wait.
So you got the idea of paying
748
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,700
twenty, Kay a year per athlete
for up to 85 athletes per team.
749
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:22,700
So since we're still at the
draft version and not after a
750
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:24,400
student is enrolled, what
happens?
751
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,900
Financially should a student
athlete choose not to enroll at
752
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:30,300
their.
Drafted School child is the
753
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:32,800
biggest piece of financial for
those athletes.
754
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,200
If you choose not to play for
the school that drafted them but
755
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,200
you choose one of the other 65
schools.
756
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,300
That's keep here.
Involved with the draft you
757
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:46,700
forfeit three years of salary.
You essentially forfeit Ten
758
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:51,700
dollars worth of money.
That's a lot of money that you
759
00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:54,800
if you told me, Brian, if me and
you were told each other.
760
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:57,700
Hey, if you go here, will give
you 60 Grand or give you 20
761
00:45:57,700 --> 00:45:59,900
grand a year to go school.
You okay, that's cool.
762
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,000
But if you go over there, you're
going to lose all that, huh?
763
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,500
But remember, the one thing I
told you about the G5 schools,
764
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:11,600
they had some benefits.
Well, if you get drafted, and
765
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,400
you don't want to go play there,
but you go play it to G5 School.
766
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:20,600
Your ecu's hear you out.
CS you don't lose that salary.
767
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:26,300
So D5 schools probably going to
be hired some groups recruiters
768
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,100
to go have to some of those
kids.
769
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:33,600
Okay?
So so that that we're talking
770
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,900
about another situation where,
you know, talking to kids are
771
00:46:36,908 --> 00:46:40,800
going to be crucial.
Absolutely.
772
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,800
It's going to be crucial to
begin staying with them.
773
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,000
Now, you asked about some
transfer stuff earlier to only
774
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,700
hit that real quick.
It's going to be similar to
775
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:54,600
transfer if you transfer with
the one-time exception because I
776
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,500
do like that a lot to one of the
other 65 schools, you do lose a
777
00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:01,900
year of your salary.
Now, if you go to a G5 School,
778
00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:05,700
same way you don't lose anything
grad transfers there, they're
779
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:09,200
done with essentially the school
they started with they don't
780
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,800
lose Is anything when they
transfer, they keep that salary.
781
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:17,800
So the bigger piece here is, you
know, you get drafted somewhere.
782
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:19,700
You don't like you, but you
don't want to lose that much
783
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:21,700
money, you know, I'm going to go
here and get my 20K in and
784
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:25,000
transfer it while won't go.
Well, you know the dice rolled
785
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,800
Brian when you start
transferring because it's like
786
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,300
you're going to be behind people
already.
787
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,200
You're not gonna know the
chemistry of the team you're
788
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,800
going to have to learn to play
book.
789
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:37,300
Is it worth twenty thousand
dollars to go somewhere?
790
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,200
Where maybe you think has more
class Or maybe you think so
791
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,000
better situation?
Okay, so it makes it makes you
792
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,500
think twice about Cloud chasing
or going to these traditional
793
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:55,300
NFL factories just for the sake
of doing it versus sticking out
794
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:59,200
and showing what you can do on
the field at a non-traditional
795
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,400
school or a school that doesn't
quite have that that same level
796
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,700
of clout, so piggybacking on
that.
797
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:09,100
So we're talking about G5,
still, has that option there,
798
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:13,300
but the biggest critique I have
is, you know, we talked about
799
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:17,400
the The draft funding in the 60k
for the draft eligible schools.
800
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:22,400
Who's funding the 60k, should a
player choose to go to G5.
801
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,600
How many scholar Ash athletes,
are they expected to be paid?
802
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,000
If they end up playing for G5,
I'll be, I really like the idea
803
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,600
of the player losing out.
Should they choose to go to
804
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,700
another school?
Because it requires the player
805
00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:39,800
and the coach to be upfront
during the pre-draft process.
806
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,200
If you blow smoke up a coach's
ass about being willing to play
807
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,500
there, R or they draft you and
then you're you're in a spot.
808
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:51,900
If you change your mind or if
you were bullshitting them in
809
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:55,700
Jumping Ship, now you actually
got some real world consequences
810
00:48:56,500 --> 00:49:00,000
for those decisions.
At the same time, a coach will
811
00:49:00,008 --> 00:49:03,700
need to be upfront about a
player and how they will be
812
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:06,200
deployed or how soon they will
play.
813
00:49:07,300 --> 00:49:10,200
Because that's still going to be
a selling point for the
814
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,700
situation, but I'm still
concerned.
815
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,800
If they go through all that and
they still decide, they want to
816
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,400
go G5, how are they getting
funded?
817
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,800
All right.
Yeah, I'm gonna hit the G5 first
818
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,900
and we'll come back to the other
piece about, you know, the
819
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:28,600
recruiting part of it.
The G5 is going to have to find
820
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,600
their own salaries, just like
the other 66.
821
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,300
Now, the number of trade
prospects.
822
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:34,200
Again, we set it with the other
guys.
823
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,200
It's going to be at the
discretion of the school.
824
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,700
You don't want it.
E5, you don't have to have any
825
00:49:38,700 --> 00:49:40,800
5.
This is completely up to you.
826
00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:45,900
It's an option out there to
offer the player this so they
827
00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:48,800
have to make those decisions.
They have to look at their
828
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,000
football, but some of them, you
know, are looking at.
829
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,900
Some of them are making money
where this would be a problem.
830
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:01,800
Some of them are probably the
football program pays for
831
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,600
itself.
What do we do?
832
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,200
There's four, five years, ten
kids, we were Ali.
833
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,700
Like we can get if we pay them
but how do we talk to the other
834
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:13,600
seven times?
Now to your other point you're
835
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,500
absolutely right about blowing
smoke up people's asses and how
836
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:18,500
you recruit.
First of all, I don't think any
837
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:24,000
player that gets drafted in this
by school is going to be one of
838
00:50:24,008 --> 00:50:26,500
those are they're just they just
want to get this clout guy.
839
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000
Why are you going to do that?
If they spent really could
840
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,900
leave, if we're drafting you, we
feel that you are one of the
841
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:35,600
eight players that can come in
and make an immediate impact,
842
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,200
right?
No doubt, no doubt, that's my
843
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:45,000
thought.
A starting role by your by your
844
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,700
second year.
I think that's going to be
845
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,400
problematic if you're taking
guys like that.
846
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:52,500
Absolutely.
And it's just one of those
847
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:56,800
things because it's really where
it starts, leveling the playing
848
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,300
field.
Because now there's ABC options.
849
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:02,100
Now, you have to be real because
you aren't getting those option.
850
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:06,200
They don't have Country, Coach
has to be, you have to coach up.
851
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,200
Those who aren't as talented,
you know, if you don't have 11 5
852
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,400
stars, You're getting in this
recruiting class and you got to
853
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:18,300
well how good of a coach are
you?
854
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,300
You know?
That's that's a thing to think
855
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:24,700
about that.
So many times like are you
856
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:27,300
really a good coach or do you
just have guys who were made for
857
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:29,600
the NFL and you're just here
riding them?
858
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:33,000
So yeah.
All right man.
859
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,600
Well you know the theme of this
entire conversation is mostly
860
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:42,300
been me arguing money, whether
it's how to fund the draft.
861
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:48,900
To fund the 20K, whether from a
power 5 or a G5 situate
862
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:52,000
situation.
I haven't really focused a lot
863
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,400
on Logistics or bylaws.
So, let's talk Logistics and
864
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,800
bylaws, you know what role is
the NCAA going to play in
865
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,100
governing this system?
What rules exist for player
866
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:11,500
image likeness and are there
going to be any changes to the
867
00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:14,100
3-year rule?
Rule for going pro.
868
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:17,200
I know that's more of an NFL
thing than an NCAA thing, but I
869
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,600
think some of this is going to
be reciprocal and how is pro
870
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,600
defined under these new rules
since players are being
871
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,600
compensated directly for their
play.
872
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:32,200
All right, so first of all, the
NCAA would have three to five
873
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:37,100
players of every team randomly
off of the pay players, randomly
874
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:39,900
audited yearly and by that
entire asthma and their
875
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:42,200
financials, their assets and
Lead thing there.
876
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:46,100
Or a value.
So you want to set this up so if
877
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:51,200
a booster starting to pay the
players and they get caught,
878
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,300
Adam is Mobsters get caught,
they get called actually doing a
879
00:52:53,308 --> 00:52:56,500
crimes now.
Well, Phoenix, it's usually
880
00:52:56,500 --> 00:53:00,900
findings is this crew, you know
them over so you know what, you
881
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:03,200
know, ability to properly and
launder their money.
882
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,000
There you go.
So, in this case, do I foresee
883
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,200
happening.
Absolutely.
884
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:11,200
But for me, I think you don't
punish the kids that hard.
885
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,700
I think you lay off the kid.
Kids, again, there's somewhere
886
00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:19,500
between the age of 17. 22,
they're young, you know kind of
887
00:53:19,508 --> 00:53:21,000
unaware of this.
It to me.
888
00:53:21,300 --> 00:53:23,400
You crush the school that lets
it happen and you crush the
889
00:53:23,408 --> 00:53:25,800
boosters.
When I say Crush to boosters,
890
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,900
they don't allow to associate
with the school.
891
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:29,700
They can't be anywhere near that
campus.
892
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,400
They essentially get their pride
and joy trip that.
893
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,500
They're one of these guys that
can walk and talk to all the
894
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:36,800
players and get to know them,
get to pictures in the
895
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,900
autographs and take it away from
you want to see some booster,
896
00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:42,300
stop doing shit.
That's how you stop him, right?
897
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,700
There then remove the clouds.
Remove the clout.
898
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,800
Ding.
Ding now I would like to see
899
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,400
going forward with the ncaa's.
Guidelines are going to be for
900
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:59,400
the name image and likeness rule
that's coming down just to see
901
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,900
kind of.
They're going to have a cap on
902
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:04,800
that, I'm assuming they will.
So again it would probably
903
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,100
slowly fall into that line with
the audible players, you take
904
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:11,000
three of the five.
You look at what they got on
905
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,500
their salary, what they got with
the name image and likeness and
906
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,300
dive into it that way.
And you said it before the
907
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:21,600
three-year Rule is, it's an NFL
rule.
908
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,900
That's not an NCAA rule, they
aren't professionals.
909
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:28,000
The reason these kids are being
compensated is because they are
910
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,500
representing their school
publicly.
911
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:34,600
Because as you know, and the one
thing that stuck with me so long
912
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,500
ago, that when we started this
conversation, most students can
913
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:42,700
get a job working on campus
these guys cans.
914
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:46,900
But what they're doing, how
they're working to put into the
915
00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:49,400
putting their bodies on the
line, candy canes.
916
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:54,500
War, you know, 60 70 hundred
thousand people to watch and pay
917
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,500
to see him play, and then
Millions more on TV that back.
918
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:01,700
That's their job.
That's their just work study
919
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:04,500
ever.
It's like me becoming an RA or
920
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:07,400
working for housing or you like
being a front desk agent.
921
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,700
There is no difference except
they make a lot more.
922
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,700
They bring in a lot more money
than we do.
923
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:16,800
And a lot of work studies, don't
ask you to put your body on line
924
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,300
like that, man.
It's true.
925
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:22,100
History of not played V3, so I
put my body on the line for
926
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:25,500
free, but yeah, I get where
you're coming from with that.
927
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,100
That definitely playing at a
high level like that definitely,
928
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:32,500
you know, comes with some Hazard
pay as it were, all right.
929
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:35,600
So you telling me, I get paid
20K a year though and with my
930
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,300
only uncovered mandatory expense
being gas money.
931
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,600
Yeah, it's still take that.
So now that we've more or less
932
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,400
laid out the key points,
anything else the audience needs
933
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,400
to know about this plan.
No real.
934
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:51,500
Other key point because it's
kind of laid out here.
935
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:55,200
But a question for you.
Brian, you have seen and you've
936
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,900
heard this plans for years.
I mean Year we're, it's
937
00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:05,200
borderline a decade-old.
Now, let me ask this does this
938
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,800
plan benefit the players?
Does it benefit?
939
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,900
The players is that you give me
a yes or no?
940
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,100
Yeah, players definitely have
some benefit here.
941
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:16,100
No doubt.
Because again, they're getting
942
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:21,600
financially compensated for
their play directly, not them
943
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,100
having to hustle.
I mean, even even under the more
944
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:27,900
ideal situation that we're
looking at coming into play here
945
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:30,800
with image and likeness.
They still have to the hustle
946
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,000
themselves to get those things
put in place.
947
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:35,600
This is okay.
Well, you're playing for us.
948
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,500
You get paid, there you go.
So some other things.
949
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,500
That's a big benefit big benefit
for the players.
950
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:45,600
And does this benefit the top
10% of college football or the
951
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,700
other 90, in terms of the ones
that are part of the draft and
952
00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:54,500
even indirectly, I could say,
some of the, the g5s definitely
953
00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:58,000
benefits the other ninety and I
think it puts a greater
954
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,700
influence on building
relationships and coaching on
955
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:06,900
the field prop on the field
product, versus selling
956
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,200
miscellaneous off the field, I
think in many ways will learn
957
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,700
that.
A good coach will get a kid
958
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:17,800
drafted, no matter what
university they represent, and
959
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,600
I'd like to see that.
I mean, the schools that we call
960
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,700
NFL factories are called such
because so many of the most
961
00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:27,400
talented players are going there
and every year they've got a
962
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,500
four or five star guy playing
the key positions on that team.
963
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,800
Yeah, and I'm going to say this
about the NFL factories, the one
964
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,100
big Advantage, they have over
the next tier schools there and
965
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:40,900
you set it there.
So deep Deep top guy goes down.
966
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:46,900
Another top guy comes right into
fall into place and it's tough
967
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,800
to tell it in Collegiate level.
If it's the coaching or if I got
968
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,200
was just born play football and
I tell you if the system has
969
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,300
ever adopted, you imagine a team
like Ohio State who was just
970
00:57:58,300 --> 00:58:00,700
always loaded, so many talented
players.
971
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,900
You imagine them that five
starting left tackle goes down
972
00:58:04,900 --> 00:58:07,700
and then this the to star from
down the road.
973
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:14,900
He's probably isn't ready to
play, that's a fact of life for
974
00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:17,900
the other 90%.
I mean, we see it every year
975
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:22,400
with our team being, the Hokies,
we see it every year happen, and
976
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,400
it's the other schools as well.
That aren't in that essentially,
977
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,800
upper echelon and I'm going to
tell you another thing in, this
978
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,400
could be the trigger if it's
everywhere to happen.
979
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,200
I bet you Infidel front.
Offices, would love this idea
980
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:38,800
because then they would be able
to see what kids.
981
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,200
Truly can play and who just
might be along for the ride with
982
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,600
all the other talented guys
around them.
983
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,700
That's true.
Let me pose this question to you
984
00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:51,700
run based on your knowledge of
college football.
985
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:55,600
You watched alot, you're like
me, you'll stay up till 1:00 in
986
00:58:55,607 --> 00:58:57,400
the morning watching the West
Coast games.
987
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,100
You'll watch some random games
them on Thursday night,
988
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:04,200
Wednesday night.
But who do you think really
989
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,400
would Thrive under the system?
What are some teams out there
990
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,900
that you feel just watching them
College?
991
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,900
All your life, that always
seemed like, you know, who do
992
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:15,800
you think thrives here?
So the teams are going to thrive
993
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,100
the most or teams that are
coached, well on the field and
994
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:20,000
the the teams had developed
Talent.
995
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:25,200
Well, and so teams that have
consistently finished ahead of
996
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,700
their recruiting average in the
final standings every year.
997
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,300
So teams that might be
recruiting outside the top 25.
998
00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:36,400
Even some cases, outside the top
40, but still finishing in the
999
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:41,200
top 25 more or less.
At least, once every three to
1000
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,600
five years.
You know, let's talk about teams
1001
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:50,400
like Wisconsin, Iowa, Virginia
Tech West, Virginia Tech's does
1002
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:55,700
Christian Oregon, Stanford,
you'd of Mississippi State and
1003
00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:58,300
Baylor.
I think all of those systems
1004
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:00,300
would probably have greater
success under this system
1005
01:00:00,300 --> 01:00:03,800
because you'd be looking at what
they do from a talent
1006
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,000
development and from an on-field
perspective, and not just,
1007
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,800
whether they can stack their
team.
1008
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:11,800
With four and five star kids
did.
1009
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,000
I that's such a freaking awesome
way to put it.
1010
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,300
I mean, I put Kentucky in there
under Mark Stoops.
1011
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:16,800
What?
He's done.
1012
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,400
There's great put Utah.
They would Kyle Winningham.
1013
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,600
I mean, never getting those
top-tier guys but always
1014
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:28,000
finishing good.
So, let me flip it around.
1015
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:30,500
Who's going to struggle to
adapt?
1016
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:33,800
Who?
This is not trying to be mean
1017
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,600
but which coaching staff you
look at and say Jesus Christ.
1018
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,300
If I I go out there.
I can make these guys 19 games
1019
01:00:41,300 --> 01:00:45,300
without even blinking.
All right, so first one's going
1020
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:51,300
to be the other team that likes
to clean the dvu moniker Ohio
1021
01:00:51,300 --> 01:00:53,700
State.
I think they would struggle
1022
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:58,300
because I think they have a way
of pumping five star Talent into
1023
01:00:58,300 --> 01:01:00,800
that program with their
recruiting.
1024
01:01:01,700 --> 01:01:03,600
And often times you don't see
it.
1025
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,600
Pay off relative to those
recruiting numbers.
1026
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:10,800
I think teams like my Me in
Texas, you know, we always keep
1027
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,800
hearing.
All right, this is this is the
1028
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,100
year for Texas or this is the
year for the U.
1029
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:18,800
The U is back or Texas's back.
I think they would struggle even
1030
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,900
more because you haven't seen
progress in their own feel
1031
01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:27,000
product, despite them bringing
in top 15, top 20 classes in the
1032
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,200
case of Texas, consistently top,
ten classes Penn State would see
1033
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,500
a drop off.
Because again, you know, they've
1034
01:01:33,500 --> 01:01:36,400
under a tree achieved relative
to some of the recruiting
1035
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:41,000
numbers they brought in I'd
argue teams with recruiting
1036
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,500
bumps of late would probably
also struggle.
1037
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:46,600
So, we're talking about the
unc's in the Maryland's of the
1038
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,600
world that are pumping out, you
know, top 5 and top ten classes
1039
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:55,500
so far going into 2021 that you
know, we haven't seen what that
1040
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:57,500
on-field products going to look
like yet, but I don't think
1041
01:01:57,500 --> 01:02:01,700
you'll you won't see the buzz
that it is being created around
1042
01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:03,900
their classes.
So I think that they would
1043
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:06,400
struggle as well and you know,
UNC in Maryland have
1044
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,800
consistently not not had great
on field.
1045
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,200
Dogs.
And now you're starting to see
1046
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,600
them get recruits.
You're like okay what's going
1047
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,100
on?
That's the in they would even
1048
01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:17,500
fall further south from that
under the new system.
1049
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,500
Yeah.
I'm with you on a high state
1050
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:25,500
right now with how much talent
they have and how much talent
1051
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:28,000
and you watch District students,
like almost are bringing in.
1052
01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:31,000
I can't tell you, if Ronde is a
great head coach, a great
1053
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,800
football coach or not or if he
just has a bunch of NFL players
1054
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,000
on the roster, and it doesn't
really take that much to get
1055
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,800
them going.
I'll put Tennessee with your
1056
01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:43,000
Exes in your Miami assessments,
they're always getting talented.
1057
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,200
Even the few years while
Pruitt's been, you're still
1058
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:50,600
getting Talent, not producing.
I do like food as a coach.
1059
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:56,500
I think he might be the answer
there but we don't know to help
1060
01:02:57,100 --> 01:02:59,900
the huh.
I am going to disagree with you
1061
01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:04,300
about Penn State because I do
think James Franklin could be
1062
01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:06,100
okay.
He did some really good things
1063
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:08,800
and Bandy, he's not afraid to
make.
1064
01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:12,400
Is on his staff.
He's shown that even in the last
1065
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,700
few years was getting recruiting
classes, he's trying to.
1066
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:17,200
It looks like he's trying to
bring him better coaching.
1067
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,100
I think he's fallen under this
thing that he is going to be a
1068
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:24,300
good recruiter and is becoming
easier and I think he's I think
1069
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:26,600
he feels he's taken his eye off
the ball in the coaching
1070
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:28,400
Twilight fired.
His offensive coordinator
1071
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,800
brought in the guy from
Minnesota.
1072
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,000
Now UNC in Maryland, they just
have great recruiting head.
1073
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,600
Coaches, the biggest difference
is this Mac has won.
1074
01:03:38,900 --> 01:03:44,700
Games in the past, my clocks,
their Sixth and 40 that's six
1075
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:47,800
and forty careers a head coach,
that's atrocious.
1076
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,600
If I were kids parents, I would
just look at me like how he
1077
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,200
coached almost 50 games and you
haven't even 120 yet?
1078
01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:03,200
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you would
think you would lucky.
1079
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,700
They least getting, you know,
one one season, where you sneak
1080
01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:08,400
into a bowl and he hasn't done
that.
1081
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,600
I mean exactly.
Alright.
1082
01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:16,100
Alright, so there it is, folks.
All right, so Curtis you laid up
1083
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:19,200
the plan.
I've done my best to try Poke
1084
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,000
holes and bring up counterpoints
our listeners can know that I
1085
01:04:23,008 --> 01:04:26,300
give given due diligence to what
you're laying out.
1086
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,600
As I said at the beginning, it's
not perfect.
1087
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:35,000
And some of the measures would
make for some hard choices, but
1088
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:40,400
I 17 and 18 year olds because
they be looking at their choice
1089
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,300
of University, kind of, in some
ways being being stripped from
1090
01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:46,800
them, ultimately.
So that would be a big thing for
1091
01:04:46,808 --> 01:04:52,000
them to have to decide on.
It is also being given 80,000
1092
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,900
dollars.
Absolutely.
1093
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:56,300
Yeah.
They're upside to that, but
1094
01:04:56,300 --> 01:05:00,600
we're still talking about a year
old guys, of which not all of
1095
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,700
them, even the five and
four-star guys are gonna you
1096
01:05:03,700 --> 01:05:07,900
know as the NCAA likes to point
out you know make a career in
1097
01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:09,900
something other than football
and shit like that.
1098
01:05:09,900 --> 01:05:14,500
So the point the point is that,
you know, you're you're still
1099
01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:17,600
talking about that that being
taken from their hands in in
1100
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,400
some, some Great.
So, but it would present a more
1101
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,400
balanced product on the field
and it would make recruiting
1102
01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:28,400
more about the big picture
stuff, instead of the perception
1103
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,800
of a program.
Big picture, meaning on the
1104
01:05:31,808 --> 01:05:35,300
field product, and have
relationships that our coach
1105
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:38,100
has, with the players,
absolutely?
1106
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,100
It would go back to that and I
think my biggest takeaway from
1107
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:45,200
this, and what really kind of
brought me to kind of say, okay,
1108
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,300
well, it's fucking out there,
but, you know, let's give it a
1109
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:53,000
ride.
I'd it is out there and but it's
1110
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,600
one of those things too.
That if somebody would show the
1111
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,800
projections of those P5
conferences, hey you're going to
1112
01:05:59,808 --> 01:06:04,600
make a lot more money a year.
They look at Ohio State and they
1113
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,900
look at Texas and they look at
some of your other programs and
1114
01:06:06,908 --> 01:06:10,900
say, sorry dogs.
More money is out there.
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Why is the NFL King right now
because of parity?
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And that's why they have the
draft.
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That's why you can't just walk
in and say, yo, I'm the best
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quarterback in college on.
Come play for your team.
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Can't do that.
Alright, so here's the question
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fans that we're going to ask you
in a post out on Twitter, what
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schools, benefit the most from
this type of draft, who suffers,
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we've given our answers here.
So, we want to hear yours, we
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want to hear if you think, no
Ronde is a great coach Ohio
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state would keep on Chuck, and
they keep on going to Rose Bowls
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and making the playoffs.
So that's the way we're going to
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ask you guys to come up with it
Brian.
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Yeah, let us know.
It's going to be the biggest
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benefactor from a draft.
I think that's the thing.
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We want to know is like, who do
you think's going to benefit the
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most, and who's going to suffer?
Because like I said, we Curtis
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said we laid it out and I think
some of you probably won't come
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up with maybe some different
answers than what we came up
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with.
So let's see what you got.
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Absolutely.
Alright.
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So that is we're going to put
the bow on it.
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That's going to wrap up this
This episode go to the boundary
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corn project.
My name is Curtis Wilson, I'm
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Brad Ziegler.
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01:07:28,700 --> 01:07:30,700
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Okay.
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Welcome back to The Foundry.
Corner podcast Curtis Wilson
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here.
My partner is always run Siegel.
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What's up fellas?
How you doing, buddy?
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Oh man, I am doing good dude.
Taking some time off at the end
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of this week so did not work
today sipping on a little water.
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No, alcohol for me tonight.
I don't know why.
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For some reason I don't work, I
get it.
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Miserable headache and I can't
have a little cocktail with my
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with our podcast today have
actually usually we're rolling
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rolling drinks pretty good.
He's so yeah this week I've been
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back in back in class started in
summer session so I had to see
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and then I had tonight, I just
wrapped up about 20 minutes ago
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so I'm finishing the night with
what I call the Rich Man, Poor
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Man.
So I've got the 12 ounce bomber
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of Richmond, logger, shout out.
Hardy would Good.
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And then I've got the 16 oz,
tallboy of hams.
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So going to roll with the bomber
first and then I'll finish it
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off with the hams awesome.
Dude.
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That sounds like some college
stuff.
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Right there, right.
Go get a nice six pack and then
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finish it off with like an a
tear a beast to get.
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Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
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It's like I've got just enough
money to spoil myself a little
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bit here.
What am I going to do?
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Oh well, this nice little speck
bottle of Guinness is on sale.
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And I can couple that with some
12-pack and Matty.
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Let's let that rod for tonight.
Let's go, dude.
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Hey man, you've been doing stuff
around your house.
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I was going to try to do some
stuff this week here, but the
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rain has essentially killed all
plans because I will try to seal
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the deck and it's just raining
and raining little too saturated
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for that.
When I took these days off a
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couple weeks ago, like my
thought was I was this would be
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good.
I could get the deck sealant,
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you know.
Wife at home, we can work around
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her schedule.
I can get it done but nope, that
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ain't happening this weekend.
So I don't know when that's
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going to happen since last time
we talked I've been doing
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actually a few places like a
living human being Home Depot
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Trader.
Joe's BJ's kind of feeling a
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little more normal, maybe that's
a way to say it, you know,
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that's all you.
Get some Hurley's you did.
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You guys like had friends or
others?
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You guys go out somewhere the
other night.
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Yeah, so we grabbed some grabs a
Wings again.
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A couple other apps and things
of that nature.
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So we grab that headed over to a
park.
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Kicked it for a little bit.
It was it was the first official
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day that Virginia was kind of
opening back up.
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So we were in in Henrico and
kind of threw down some wings on
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some buffalo cheese tots and
they were pretty were pretty
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solid.
And then tonight I had some
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fajitas from the patron and we
got some Some Sarah, got some
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nachos and why it got is got his
quesadilla.
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So it's been a been a good run
here for us on.
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I'm scooping up some solid food
even though we're still doing
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the curbside dance so far.
How about you?
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We had neighbors came up on
Saturday.
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We got her lease, they made some
Daiquiris, had some beers in the
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cul-de-sac kids rode around on
their, you know, on their Trikes
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and other little toys and Jack
rode, his bike around.
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Um it is funny, you mentioned
the quesadilla is like that.
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It's that that's the official
kid food if they go to a, if you
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go to a Mexican establishment,
right?
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Oh absolutely.
Yeah, it's definitely the go-to
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like why it's weird.
He gonna, he doesn't even mess
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around with like chicken or
anything.
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His he just went straight cheese
quesadilla and let it ride.
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Yeah.
Same thing with both of the
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boys, although wife when we make
them at home like we did here
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tonight she slips chicken steak
beef, whatever we We have and
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occasionally, get the, what's in
this, everything.
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Eat it.
It's good for you.
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It's good for you.
Get some volunteer.
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All right.
Well you guys today on the
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episode, we're going to dive
into something that has been
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long going between me and Brian
and NCA, a-- draft.
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But before we tackle that and
literally, I mean tackle that
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this was similar to the
rushmore's thing.
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We were It was an undertaking
done, it was an undertaking, but
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we got some hokey headlines
here.
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First, the good news, Jalen
Jones, the 61 185 wideout out of
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Thomas Jefferson here in the RV.
A committed last Friday.
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You know, it's a little bit more
special when those folks from
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the 804 commit to Virginia Tech,
it just hits a little bit
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different.
I was, I was big-time excited
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when when I saw that coming out
Oh yeah because I think I think
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he's gonna do some special
things for us.
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I think he's got kind of under
the radar Talent right now.
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Reminds me a lot of Cam so I
think we're going to see some
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good things from him in the
future.
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I don't think he's necessarily a
day one contributor but I think
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long term he's gonna pay some
dividends for oh absolutely and
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that Thomas Jefferson program
and give head coach, PJ Adams
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all the credit in the world?
Probably, when we first moved
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here, you the same about the
same time frame.
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They were bad and Cal.
Yeah.
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Now they are respectable
program, something he mentioned,
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I can't remember.
It was with Mark, Davis, Orlan,
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gas, and Dante, but they
interviewed him and he talked
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about sticking it out and Thomas
Jefferson because Adams was not
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there.
When he showed up, they were not
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a good program kind of kind of
tells you that It's kind of made
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out of something different when
you hear that.
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So, that makes me extra excited.
And then you see, here's a cam
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comparisons.
You see the the body types?
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You see some of the caches?
I mean, did he led basically the
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central region?
You know, the greater part of
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the r-va in receptions and yards
so, you know, I really think
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that's no small feat man mean,
you're planning it solid teams
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here in this region.
So I think I'm kind of with you.
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If he's a day one contributor.
But I think a couple of years
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and I think he definitely could
become definitely a definitely a
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player with what we're running
right now.
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I agree with that.
Like you, like you said, with
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the sticking it out, it would
TJ, I mean, so many of the city
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kids and have a lot of talent
end up, you know, fudging their
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zip code.
So the end of playing for
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Hermitage or Holland Springs or
for Rhino instead of one of the
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city's schools, so seeing a kid
like him, If your stick it out,
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do the right thing and you go
out there and shine, then we
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that that says a lot about his
character and says a lot about
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his willingness to not take the
easy way there as we were
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absolutely.
Well, Ron, let's just talk about
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the elephant in the room ten
days ago when me and you talked
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to meet your status head
decommitted, just the way it
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seemed he needed to check out
some other options.
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You know, said he would plan on
making a fish.
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Visits and then lo and behold
last weekend minutes after the
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Jalen Jones announcement mind
you.
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There was an announcement that
he was committing on Sunday at
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11:00 and when everything came
down, Curtis where do you end up
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Auburn?
Let's talk about what happened
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the day before that, though
there was a Instagram post with
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a top-three released, guess who
was not in that top three.
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We all burn guess who was not in
the previous top six, he
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released right after he
decommitted Auburn.
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So we got a little
bait-and-switch situation going
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on here.
We're pretty much everyone knew
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where he was going.
It seemed like between the
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crystal balls on 24/7 and all of
the board speculation.
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Yeah.
And then he tried to pull what
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seemed like A little bit of an
okeydoke late to try to guess
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maybe I've just skate the
situation so it seemed like it
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came out of the blue, it didn't
know because we owe you said it
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last as time something changed
in the last month.
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Leading up to this and then all
of a sudden get radio silence
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and you get a deep commitment
and now you get that surprise
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commitment to a school.
He didn't even list in any of
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these top schools that he was
focusing on.
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So that says to me that
something was going on and for
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whatever reason they didn't want
eyes on the Auburn program until
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everything came down, whether it
was to bring an element of
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surprise.
Rise or whether it was to hurt
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us or hurt another, another
team, it's hard to tell what the
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actual motivation for it was
here.
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That part was ridiculous.
But redeemable now what wasn't
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redeemable with some of the
comments that were made after
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the commitment and I'll let
Curtis take those and expand
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upon them here because I know he
was in his in his pocket, there
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about them.
It got me.
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Know when he said the stuff
about, I want to play SEC
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football.
I want to be part of one of the
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bigger program.
Cool, we as Virginia Tech fans.
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Me you the majority of people,
we know say, yep.
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Auburn, last 10 years has been a
much better football program.
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We will Advocate otherwise, but
we understand where you're
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coming.
From understand where you're
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coming from.
That's cool.
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But then it was, it was, it was,
it was really two things.
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And one was the well Tech wanted
me to come in right away and
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play what?
Wait a second, dude.
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We have three highly rated guys
already here.
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Well, hold on.
So that doesn't seem to Bear
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out, you know, Common Sense like
most of us have and then you
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know, and then he thought that
I'd rather sit behind phone eggs
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and it's just like wait a second
there's bonuses.
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And essentially in the same room
At the guys that we have.
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So let's let's, let's not go
that direction but the one that
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probably set people off the most
was the academic thing and it
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doesn't take a rocket scientist
to do three minutes worth of
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research on Google.
Also in know, in general, that
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Virginia Tech is a superior
academic institution to Auburn
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Auburn 10 core.
Text somewhere like Stark.
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So, you know, that that really
set people off and some people
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are trying to say, oh, they just
miss quoted of you is talking
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about the academics and
rewarding.
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It's like I text him
spiegelman's article a couple
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times and he has not retracted
it.
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He is not updated it.
So either he completely he wrote
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it in completely misleading
terms or Demetrius set.
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Some things that really is.
Not true and he has not done his
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research on Auburn as an
institution either, he can be
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completely.
Use the wrong words to convey
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his meaning, or he doesn't
understand what he's talking
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about.
And, you know, even if there may
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be a program or two specific to
Auburn that might, you know, be
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relative or better than Tech.
What if you're talking about the
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academic institution as a whole
and specifically the target
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programs that he had mentioned
in the past, there's no
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competition.
Yeah.
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So that raises some eyebrows.
It seem like an unnecessary
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troll on the way out of the good
fortunes of the Hokey fandom
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there.
So it was, it was complete.
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It was unnecessary.
In my opinion, it didn't need to
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be said nothing, most everyone
understood.
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I'll bring it.
Has a better football program,
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in terms of what it can do right
for him.
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Yep, I think we understand that
that It's not saying he couldn't
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have had a good or better career
at Virginia Tech that he
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couldn't offered.
But in terms of walking, in day
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one, they offer things that we
can offer right now on a scent.
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And I don't think anybody would
have had an issue.
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If that's all he said and it has
been like good luck to you.
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Have a good career?
Yeah.
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So yeah.
But let's not get too deep into
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that because you're drinking and
that's good.
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We could go really deep into
that.
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I've already finished the rich
man died.
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Ready on the poor man.
You're already killing the poor
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man.
Just hammering it, dude.
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Hammering it.
Hey, let's do it.
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Let's have a little fun, man.
Some things came up this week,
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Chad, and, you know, things on
Twitter and what you?
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Let's go with the top three
chain sub spots for you Brian.
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Let's go. 3, 2, 1.
Start with your three, and I'll
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hit with mine.
All right.
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Three Penn Station, Penn Station
is the winner in this category,
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because they put pizza sauce on
the cheesesteak.
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Take, and they've got fries.
And if you like a cold
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refreshing beverage in the
summer time, they've got a
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pretty banging homemade lemonade
will buy you three for me is
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Potbelly, okay?
Very big fan of pot-bellied
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since they opened pretty local
here, last few years, both good
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hot and cold Subs.
Have an awesome chip brand, but
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the one thing that sets it off
for me is do that little
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pickled.
Pepper thing, they have it's
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just like so money's, like grab
two of those to go myself.
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I appreciate it.
I know about you and the
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peppers, man.
I remember some troops used to
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make it the office back in the
day, you would always loaded up
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on the pepper.
So I I know that you are a
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pepper kind of sewer Peppers,
you know?
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Dude I'll be straight up as a
family we buy bell peppers,
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either three or six every week
so I love Peppers.
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Hi, what's your 20?
To, I'm going to go.
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It's a toss-up.
I'm gonna go Firehouse.
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I'm gonna go fire house.
I'm going to go probably hook
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and ladder is going to be the
go-to well buddy.
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You and number two.
Dude, I'm firehouses well.
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And I think the reason is it's a
bigger sub than pot-bellied but
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they're hot and cold match.
They have some they have good.
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Like, I believe that Reuben I've
had several times excellent
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Reuben for a chain restaurant
and you know, that they have the
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cold.
To.
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So I'm with Father.
What's the other one inch and
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the engineer I think is the one
that has the the brisket and the
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yes pastrami.
I think you're right about that.
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Yeah but just just just a really
good sub just you know every
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like the ingredients and
everything.
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It's you know there might too.
Now I have a feeling I have a
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feeling too and wanting to be
the exact same for mean.
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You just want to thank you hear
Voice number one.
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In Jersey Mike's.
And it's not a question.
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I've got two.
No twos.
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I've got the, I got the number
nine.
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If I want something cold, and
I've got the Big Kahuna, if I'm
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going for for something.
Hot agreed on the Big Kahuna,
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but I love the cancro, the
canker of special that's my
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go-to with the cold, but I think
Jersey is Mike's the reason
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they're one is, if you just want
like a good cold cuts up man,
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they pile it.
And they are very simplistic
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with their ingredients and it's
good.
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The bread tastes great.
They put enough meat and cheese
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on there, where you feel like
you're taking a sandwich and
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then the same with the Big
Kahuna with those jalapenos,
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baby.
Okay.
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Now let's just put it out here
to those listening.
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Subway is not acceptable in a
top three.
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Yeah, I've got no problem with
you.
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Putting Subway somewhere.
But it's not at the top three,
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it really shouldn't be a top
five if you know depending on
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depending on your locality in
your exposure I can see where
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Subway might make a top five but
I mean if you've been anywhere
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that has at least four sub shops
you should not have Subway in
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your top three.
Boom, we're going to end up
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doing an episode of one day.
Cause I'd be good with that.
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I'd be good with that.
All right buddy, I got a song.
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I want to play for you for where
we're moving next.
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Alrighty, I'm listening.
All right, guys, we're entering
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a world where the NCAA has a
draft picture.
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If you will get it, gotta do my
best Rod here, picture event
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roster the baby.
So this has been like kind of
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floated in several podcast in
the of yesteryear.
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But we figured, you know, since
we're in a Quarantine right now,
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we got time on our hands.
We could discuss it.
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We decided we were going to give
the people what they want and
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what the people want?
I think is a more Equitable
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college football, situation.
Something with more parity at
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least more parity than we have.
And Curtis has been, I don't
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know.
Curtis, I'll let you throw it
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out there.
When did you develop this?
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All right, it started roughly
seven or eight years ago when Me
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and you were working together
and you we take lunches and
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breaks.
And I feel like about every once
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a month this would come up for
like two days and we go back and
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forth.
And at that point in time you
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knew my stance I was completely
against all the pain of any
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players didn't want it to
happen.
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Didn't think it was right now.
Even at that point in time, even
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seven, eight years ago, you had
a different stance, though.
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Yes.
I was willing to listen to
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propose.
Rules for players profiting from
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their name or likeness or
abilities mainly because
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regardless of how we both felt
about the situation, literally
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every other student athlete has
an opportunity, except for ones
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that play some of these major
sports.
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So whether their own
scholarship, they're not, they
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can make money off their
likeness name or ability, but
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it's ew, athletes didn't have
that privilege.
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So that's where my, that's where
my take was.
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It seemed like Curtis if he was
going to take a dive off here.
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He wanted something a little bit
more revolutionary, there's no
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reason to play it safe in that
case on because my thought was
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when you always talked about
that was well Whoever has the
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biggest boosters or just going
to essentially higher the top
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prospects.
If you got a booster who's worth
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60 million dollars, um, come
here son, come on over here.
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60,000, talk about my car
Dealership whatever.
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But as you slowly through this
conversation, you you sort of
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kind of grinded at me over those
few years because you hit some
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really good valid points.
But then like, I can remember
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like one of the days.
I first brought up the idea and
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it hit me and I said it to you,
but like revolutionary idea.
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And the idea was this, when I
said it, I'm sure Brian's face.
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Your face is I gave me one of
those who still looks but I
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said, hey Brian, we pay the
players but if we pay the
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players they get drafted, he
said it and my first immediate
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reaction was nah, that's not
going to happen.
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That's fine.
That wouldn't be feasible.
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It removes the idea of
scholar-athlete almost
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completely since a prospect
wouldn't be able to choose where
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they would go if they're being
drafted.
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But as Curtis started explaining
what he was talking about.
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There's actually a little bit of
a solution to that conundrum and
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I'll let Curtis dive in a little
bit more here and tell you what
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that solution is.
Yeah.
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And we're going to get to that,
won't you?
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Hold it because it's like, it's
got to be layered, right.
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Because if they start going all
over the place, people will be
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like what the bleep did you guys
talk tonight.
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But the one thing I can't Brian,
during this time that always
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done, he really he challenged me
on certain Except some of my
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original ideas.
He play Devil's Advocate even
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though at times there was no
reason to play Devil's Advocate
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with so many of the ideas and
points I've come up with.
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So we walking around break just
chitchat.
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Like what about this?
And you'd be like, poke poke
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poke be like damn you.
But I, but I really appreciate
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it.
Because it made me think more
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and more about this.
And in reality, it really isn't
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just my piece is both of our
pieces because without Brian
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being that devils, Advocate
without essentially playing that
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person who, you know, I'd come
the idea into here it is.
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What do you think?
You poke the holes?
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I go back to the drawing board
is really both of our
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dissertation on this type
subject.
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Yeah, I was good at poking, the
whole wall.
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So and then cried said,
encourage back in the lab and
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he'd come back at me we you
know, one solution.
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Would fill one hole and
sometimes open another.
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Sometimes he'd seal it up, good
on the least on one side of the
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ship.
I wouldn't say that what we were
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about to present here is better
than the current system.
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But I would argue it certainly
is no worse and is more
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Equitable.
And if that's what we're
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shooting for then this you know
might have some legs in a
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Twilight Zone.
It is also again, I think pot
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probably a complete pipe dream
that we have fun with and we
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thought we would let you in on
some of this, this brain.
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Lab Behavior.
Curtis is showing trying to fix
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college sports.
First of all, pipe dream.
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Hell, this is going to be the
way it goes one day and we might
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be in our 60s when it happens
and we will be commissioned in
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it.
Me and you were going to work
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out.
Getting some, we're going to get
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the what's the rights man?
And that when you have the ideas
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God you know intellectual
property rights, there you go,
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it electrical property rights.
Thanks it wasn't coming there.
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The intellectuals kind of gone
today.
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But the first thing we had to do
was I had to start somewhere and
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say, well who's a part of this
draft and, you know, I'm just
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going to be straight up, I'm
sorry.
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Group of five schools, Old
Dominion Georgia, Southern and
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the rest of y'all and all you
long-term non-major,
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Independence.
Sorry, Liberty.
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You're not involved.
So it's really you're looking at
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all the power, five schools
along with Notre Dame and BYU,
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I'm Sardar me, guess you're an
independent long-standing, but
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we cannot start partnering you
with having this potential when
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navy Air Force Camp.
Plus I get a feeling this
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service institutions wouldn't
want to be a part of this
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anyway.
Their things they don't even
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release about some of their
players and some of their
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scholarships.
So I'm sure there'll be some
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part of like, nah, we're good.
We're on a different level than
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that.
So, so that's it.
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We got 66 teams.
All right.
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So first thing here, for the,
for those done.
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The 66, they will unfortunately
be resigned to get the leavings
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of the power 5 program.
Should they choose?
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Not to accept the power 5 draft?
Designations They also may not
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be able to support themselves
since, I'm not certain that the
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financials will be the same.
Once all these changes are in
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place, the first holds I'd like
to poke in here is like let's
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talk about television money.
And the teams that draft not
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00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,900
wanting to play teams that don't
the same way that power 5 and G
418
00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:06,600
five schools currently play.
Well, I think first brine you
419
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,400
talk about them playing, I think
that's still going to happen,
420
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,600
you know?
There is still going to be money
421
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,300
out there for p52 fake G5 to say
hey come down first week in
422
00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:17,800
September, here's million
dollars.
423
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,600
They're not going to turn those
down but also the G5 is actually
424
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,600
going to have in a little while
here.
425
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,700
You're going to hear some
benefits that they have that the
426
00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:32,200
P5 don't have concerning players
so hold tight for that man.
427
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,700
You know.
So the P51 privy to certain
428
00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:41,100
things that the G5 are now as
far as supporting Cells.
429
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:45,000
I even think with the things I'm
going to lay out and we're going
430
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,700
to discuss here, there's still a
market for gm5 amongst fans
431
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,400
amongst recruits.
I mean their games are still
432
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,000
being watched.
I mean, Brian you take last year
433
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,000
UCF temple on Thursday night
competing with the NFL still
434
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,600
pulled like 1.8 million people
on ESPN to watch it.
435
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:06,100
That's not small number and then
you think about like, mac ssion
436
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,000
and the, the fun belt on Tuesday
and Wednesdays.
437
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,100
They're pulling anywhere from
650, 700, 800 thousand people
438
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:17,900
watching.
So the markets are still, there
439
00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:22,800
we are football-loving society
and I don't foresee them losing
440
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,100
it all now.
I think what probably will have
441
00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,300
to happen if this were ever to
be implemented.
442
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,900
I think they'd have to take a
hard look About who they pay
443
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,100
versus who just gets a
scholarship.
444
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,900
But I think this is just going
to be just it's still the devil
445
00:27:41,100 --> 00:27:43,500
but it's just a different type
of devil that again that we're
446
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:47,000
looking at making college
football as a whole more
447
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:52,300
equitable.
Okay, okay, so you're thinking
448
00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:55,300
that with the measures that are
in place and with some of the
449
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:59,800
cost saving features coupled
with some of the extra media
450
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,900
Revenue coming in that they're
going to be just fine.
451
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:04,800
Absolutely.
I think they're going to be just
452
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,600
fine.
Plus, you know, I can't wear a
453
00:28:09,608 --> 00:28:12,600
football of them society and the
one thing I'm going to bring up
454
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:18,000
here later is going to be about
the money for that G5 / P 5,
455
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,300
which I think you're going to
like a lot but but now hey I got
456
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:25,000
66 team established.
We got it right.
457
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:30,400
Okay, we got 6666 but like any
draft you can't just throw out
458
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,900
big number Birds, whatever,
whatever.
459
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,100
So I started doing some research
and I kind of effort it in
460
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:40,600
effort and looked and said, all
right, eight rounds feels right?
461
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,000
It's about 528 prospects.
That's where I feel.
462
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,800
That's going to be the size of
this draft.
463
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,900
There's a to see Your picks for
these 66 teams.
464
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,100
Okay, so you got eight round, 66
teams.
465
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,600
Obviously theoretically eight
pigs per team so I like the
466
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,900
number in terms of not being,
oh, nurse Lee, long of a draft
467
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:05,600
and problematic from a
logistical standpoint.
468
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,300
Got a couple questions for you
though.
469
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:13,500
All right, normally recruiting
cycle has 18 to 26, 25 26,
470
00:29:13,500 --> 00:29:16,200
scholarships available,
depending on De partie players,
471
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,900
transfer as things of that
nature.
472
00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:21,600
Where are the other players
coming from to fill out the rest
473
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,100
of the roster and is they're
going to still be traditional
474
00:29:25,100 --> 00:29:31,800
recruiting for those sub 8786 re
caliber players because if we're
475
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,700
talking about 528 prospects,
we're talking about pretty much
476
00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:39,500
all the five and four-star guys
and a good number of high three
477
00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:41,500
stars.
Absolutely.
478
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,600
Yep.
It's theoretically eight picks
479
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,600
and then you know, some things
can happen that will be touched
480
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,500
on later.
Or about the theoretical eight
481
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:54,000
picks but for the players who
aren't drafted and we hit them
482
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,800
first.
They're just going to be going
483
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,600
through their normal recruiting
process for them.
484
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,200
It's their decision where they
want to play and you are kind of
485
00:30:02,208 --> 00:30:03,500
right about that ranking
caliber.
486
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,300
Twilight looked at eight rounds
because that's roughly your
487
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,100
five-star.
Your lead of a leak to your very
488
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:14,600
high three borderline for.
But also So it's a very
489
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,300
interesting number of how
coaches have to sell kids
490
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,400
because it's not a tiny number.
Like, oh, you've got to sell
491
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,700
three kids that get drafted.
That's, that's not that overly
492
00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:25,700
difficult, right?
Yeah, but it's not like, oh,
493
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:29,200
we're gonna do 26 rounds.
First of all, we'd be here for
494
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,200
three weeks, and that wouldn't
be fun for anyone.
495
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,100
So they still have to, they
still have to kind of sell a
496
00:30:37,108 --> 00:30:39,900
kid.
And for the kid, I mean, you see
497
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:42,900
so many guys get so excited
about getting drafted, even if
498
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:45,300
it's in the Seven, six and
seventh rounds.
499
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,000
It's kind of a symbol.
I'm one of the best.
500
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,400
I was chosen by a power five
team or one of the major
501
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Independence to play football
for them.
502
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,200
The kind of, like a badge of
honor to say, you got drafted in
503
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,400
this.
Okay.
504
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:06,000
So it seems like if you're a
power, five School scouting and
505
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,900
selling their pick is still
going to be very important
506
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,800
because if it turns out, you
know, whether the recruiting
507
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,500
turn sour or more taper, Feels
that they are who you thought
508
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:17,100
you were.
You don't exactly have the
509
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:22,100
ability to Pivot to like a high
3 or a low for Star playing be
510
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,200
like you would under current
recruiting is all those guys are
511
00:31:25,208 --> 00:31:26,500
already going to be on other
teams.
512
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:30,400
So you'll have to try to sell an
undrafted player that played for
513
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,600
you is better than going to a G5
school at that point or you'll
514
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,600
have to find someone on the
transfer portal.
515
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,800
And since were there Curtis,
what's the transfer portal going
516
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,300
to look like in the system.
I helped us before I had to try.
517
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:48,400
A, I'm going to agree with you
100% on this, The Scouting, how
518
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,100
you sell your flow G finding
culture, if it's there, still so
519
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:56,900
important in doing this.
But to your point it kind of
520
00:31:56,908 --> 00:31:58,400
starts, this is where I'm
talking.
521
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,000
We're talking about the
Equitable, it starts, leveling
522
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,000
the playing field.
That if a team doesn't have
523
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,200
three tier 1 options at a
physician's, your Scouts better
524
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:13,000
be right about those lower guys
because that's where so many of
525
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,100
the elite You know, they're old
middle linebacker went down.
526
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,800
What does that matter?
They had the third best middle
527
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,500
linebacker in their recruiting
class the year after he came, it
528
00:32:23,500 --> 00:32:29,000
doesn't hurt them at all
compared to a lot of players and
529
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:33,400
it's to me why we look at this
and you see that we've had a
530
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:38,400
playoff for six years, only 11
teams that went behind on the 11
531
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,300
teams have went to that.
So there's really no parity in
532
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:44,600
it at all for me.
I'm all with the new transfer
533
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,600
rules for those players.
Now, there are going to be we'll
534
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,200
discuss it when we get to the
financial point.
535
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,700
There are some Financial
consequences when kids do choose
536
00:32:54,700 --> 00:32:57,900
to make that decision, it's
going to be highlighted as we
537
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:01,000
cover the salary portion of the
conversation.
538
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,600
Okay, so we've got the inherent
benefits and the fact that
539
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,700
you've still got to recruit
under this system.
540
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,000
All right.
Let's take a look at the draft
541
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,300
itself.
First, what type of draft are
542
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:18,100
we?
Having second are their trades
543
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:22,900
going to be allowed in this
draft and third, if they are, if
544
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:27,300
they are going to be allowed,
would it be a pic package or
545
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:30,900
would players be involved and
forth?
546
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:33,900
What are the ramifications of
drafting a player that, you
547
00:33:33,900 --> 00:33:35,500
know, won't play for your
school?
548
00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:40,200
Both for that player and for the
school and those are really all
549
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,100
good legitimate questions of how
this goes.
550
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,500
First of all, this is a complete
lie.
551
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,200
Lottery style selection and for
the first year you do it you
552
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,300
would drop all sixty six teams
in.
553
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:57,400
Pick them up one through 266.
How that turns out is after that
554
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,000
you're looking at 33 and 33.
So for example if you are in the
555
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,900
first half of the first 66, the
next flick you're going to be in
556
00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:08,800
the back half and you're going
to flick it, split it up like
557
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,900
that.
I hope that does.
558
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:12,400
That make sense?
You'll be rotating every year
559
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,500
you're going to be at the front
half.
560
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,600
Of the 33 of the back half of
the 33 and where you are is
561
00:34:16,607 --> 00:34:21,400
going to be essentially, you
know, completely random.
562
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,300
So you cannot tank to get extra
balls.
563
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:30,300
You get one ball only but it's
also going to be a snake draft.
564
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,699
So, thank for most of us, you
play Fantasy Football.
565
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,900
Snake draft is how we do it
again.
566
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:39,400
This is where the selections
kind of level out, you pick the
567
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,900
highest, you know, five star
because you had the second pick.
568
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:47,100
Well, now you're having to wait,
what is that close to?
569
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:50,600
What almost 130, pixel, 800-plus
pics?
570
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:55,400
Yeah, to make your second picks.
So all those teams who are at
571
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,800
the back half one year, you
know, they have that potential
572
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,800
to get like we're going to get
maybe a top 60 and then a top,
573
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,600
80 Guy versus, if you're picking
up front we're getting one of
574
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,800
the elites but now again how we
Scout, this guy's going to be
575
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:15,000
kind of important.
So you know, Those things are
576
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,800
pretty big on that.
Now, there are they will be no
577
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,500
trades allowed, okay?
Yes, none.
578
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,700
You can't do it.
It's theirs.
579
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:25,800
You can't be saying we're going
to do this pick in this picture.
580
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,800
This big.
Nope, you're getting eight
581
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,400
players whether you like it or
not, not unless if you draft a
582
00:35:32,408 --> 00:35:36,100
player and they do not signed to
play for you, they're going to
583
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:40,500
have Financial consequences.
But I'll get to that later, but
584
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:42,800
there are two things that can
happen if they signed with one
585
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,200
of the other 65 schools.
First of all, that's cool.
586
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,900
Will relinquish their pick in
the next year's draft for the
587
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:54,600
same round.
So let's say your School of
588
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,400
Choice chooses a quarterback at
18, he doesn't want to play for
589
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,700
you.
I'm going to this school.
590
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:03,500
Well, if that's cool, chooses to
sign in, guess what?
591
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,400
You get there.
One pick the next year, some
592
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,800
compensation.
So again, Then how you recruit,
593
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:11,800
that's who really wants that
guy.
594
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,300
He thinks he's worth it.
Well, you better hope that the
595
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,600
next year, he is worth it
because you're not going to have
596
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,000
one of those little eat 66
players to go there.
597
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:24,100
Now, here's kind of the downside
of it but good for the G5
598
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:26,600
schools.
If the school below, if that
599
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,200
kids used to go to a G5 school,
you're out of luck.
600
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:36,500
So, you know, you still have to
recruit two players, and you
601
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:40,400
have to know them, when you
draft them, that you draft on,
602
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,500
you know, they're going to walk
on campus and start playing for
603
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:47,100
you, okay?
Okay, so notes, all these teams.
604
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:50,700
If this ever goes down, do not
put yourself in a John Elway,
605
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:55,000
your Eli Manning type situation
because you will get screwed.
606
00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:59,700
And you might waste a pick and
even if you get a compensatory
607
00:36:59,700 --> 00:37:03,700
pick, you're putting yourself
one cycle behind on some of
608
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:06,400
these teams because you're
essentially throwing away up a
609
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,600
high caliber player for one
year, exactly.
610
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:13,600
All right.
So lottery draft order with a
611
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,400
snake format.
So now we've got the players are
612
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,600
drafted.
Let's talk about financials.
613
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:21,600
That's one of the biggest
selling points for the system.
614
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,300
Yeah, it is.
Now, you're exactly right with
615
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:28,100
the eel.
Eli and John Elway, comparison,
616
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,800
Steve.
Why you've got to recruit?
617
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,500
You've got to get to know these
guys.
618
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,500
Now, there is some compensation
for losing a guy, so it's not a
619
00:37:34,508 --> 00:37:37,400
complete waste.
But to your point you just made
620
00:37:37,700 --> 00:37:41,300
if you just tried to take a guy
and he had no interest in
621
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:43,500
signing, he left.
Yeah, you got a compensatory but
622
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:46,200
guess what?
Well now you've got to figure
623
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,200
out one of the other guys either
in your draft or one of the
624
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,800
undrafted guys that you're
recruiting, can you get somebody
625
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,100
similar order your point?
Well, the next You're going to
626
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,400
have an extra pick but okay,
great.
627
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,300
That's next year that doesn't
help you.
628
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:06,600
One thing about college as we
know every year, so you don't
629
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,500
want to throw away a selection.
I mean, you got some
630
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:14,300
scholarships toward the low end
that, you know, you take risk on
631
00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:18,100
guys, but you don't want to be
throwing away, your, your eight,
632
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:21,300
top recruits for a from a cycle.
And knowing one of them is just
633
00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:23,400
not going to be there and give
you any production.
634
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:26,800
Absolutely.
All right, so Financial Peace.
635
00:38:26,900 --> 00:38:29,400
Well, here's the big piece, all
the division.
636
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,300
One programs P5 Independence,
have the option to pay their
637
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:36,800
players.
A set amount of twenty thousand
638
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,800
dollars per year along with
their scholarship.
639
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,000
Now, amazing programs,
discretion of how many players
640
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,800
you take, now the maximum
quality players, 85 that's going
641
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,300
to be the max number of paid
players.
642
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:54,800
So we will essentially Match
that.
643
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,000
So if you have 85 guys on
scholarship, those are the 85
644
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:03,000
guys, essentially getting paid.
So the program chooses to pay
645
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:08,400
all ages.
It is only a grand total.
646
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,600
Brine of 1.7 million a year.
I mean, that's what do you think
647
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,700
of that?
Um, that's that was my first big
648
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:19,100
question.
When it came to the financial
649
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,200
side of his is this additional
budget to pay players.
650
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,900
Where is it coming from?
I know additional media proceeds
651
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:28,700
were coming to play because the
more parody that you see in a
652
00:39:28,707 --> 00:39:32,400
league, the more people tune in
and watch because there's more
653
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,200
people that have steaks and, and
steaks that go beyond, just
654
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:39,900
whether or not a team wins or
loses and whether or not a team,
655
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,700
you know, gets them that pearly
that they've been looking for.
656
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:50,100
You know, bookies aside so when
we look at so we got a digital
657
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,900
media proceeds from that are
open up to the university as a
658
00:39:52,908 --> 00:39:55,600
result of that from the
conference in the n-c-double-a.
659
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,900
So that's going to be a portion
of it.
660
00:39:56,900 --> 00:40:00,800
But I think there would likely
still be incentive to pay.
661
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,500
Only players that were drafted
versus the entire 85
662
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:08,100
scholarships under this
proposal.
663
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:12,700
But you know, if you've got the
resources, you might be able to
664
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:14,400
pay them all.
I think some of it's going to
665
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,600
depend on what your, what Your
boosters can do.
666
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,600
I don't know what what that's
going to look like.
667
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,700
But in terms of being able to
pump money into a program, is
668
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:26,300
that going to help still help
those programs in a way?
669
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,100
Well you know I mean that's what
it's going to be the decision of
670
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:33,200
each University.
Everybody's going to have their
671
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,000
bottom lines.
They look at and you know how
672
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,900
they decide to give you a
potential future monies and all
673
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:41,200
that.
But I mean, we talked about it
674
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,500
last week, we would Virginia
Tech The football program had
675
00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:50,200
profits last year of 23 million
dollars, dude, 1.7 million ain't
676
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:55,200
even 10% of that and wear one of
those in the, in the, in the
677
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,400
30s.
And, you know, there's some
678
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,700
programs clearly behind us.
So, again, the schools have to
679
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:06,400
determine that, but again, the
big piece is to your point.
680
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,400
You just made Your Iowa State.
And I knew I was States now
681
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,200
better under Matt Campbell, but
for years, they were a doormat.
682
00:41:14,900 --> 00:41:18,200
You're getting better players,
your more competitive team for
683
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,200
more people are coming.
More people are watching you on
684
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:22,900
TV so you're probably going to
see money.
685
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:26,000
Come back to the program
regardless, okay?
686
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,100
So more money is coming in.
It would be nice for the NCAA to
687
00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:33,100
maybe come off of some of their
money to help these
688
00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:36,400
universities, you know, meet
that bottom line, and not have
689
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:44,500
to cut sports or or rely on
these extra donors to fund the,
690
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,300
the system, the new draft
system.
691
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,700
But I don't foresee the NCAA
necessarily changing their
692
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:54,000
allotments to the conference's.
What about you?
693
00:41:54,500 --> 00:41:56,900
Well, I mean, I think what
you're gonna see is the school's
694
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:59,100
potential are going to see a
windfall from a deal cover in
695
00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:02,100
this draft because we know
people watch.
696
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,200
I mean, you take a look at
national Signing Day When It
697
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,200
Happens.
ESPN, FS1.
698
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,600
Be a sport.
They're all on top of it so
699
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:16,100
they're clearly covered it up.
So you don't think if you have a
700
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:18,500
draft where they're talking
about the best high school
701
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:23,600
players with 66 of the most
popular teams, I think there's
702
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,700
some help right there man to
help those salaries.
703
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,400
Yes.
The NCAA is going to cover that,
704
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,100
cut it up to the conferences in
the schools that would cover it.
705
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:36,800
Because I know what networks for
the NFL draft, I think paid a
706
00:42:36,808 --> 00:42:39,600
total of 440.
Billion to the NFL to cover the
707
00:42:39,607 --> 00:42:43,900
draft last year.
So even if the n-c-double-a made
708
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,300
you know 1/40 of that that would
be enough to cover the
709
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:52,400
additional amount to pay all
8685 scholarships for every NCAA
710
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,400
team.
That's a part of the draft.
711
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:59,200
Absolutely Manning.
Just a billion dollars, you know
712
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,600
billion dollars to some programs
to help them out.
713
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:08,000
I don't think that now let me
call me kind of slip in I think.
714
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,300
This, the NCAA would be smart to
aim for like a Thursday, Friday,
715
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:15,800
Saturday, like in January, after
the national championship game
716
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:21,300
before before NFL, playoff games
are kind of in their big for
717
00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:26,000
those weekends because you still
essentially we're going to
718
00:43:26,008 --> 00:43:29,900
eliminate the early 90s early
signing period and we're going
719
00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:33,000
to go back to the old school.
You sign in February, so you're
720
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,400
going to have a draft and a few
weeks later national Signing
721
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,700
Day.
So there's that kind of Of the
722
00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:43,000
time frame in there where they
can carve out a little three-day
723
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,200
spot where fans like me and you
folks, we talked with our
724
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,100
friends of other teams.
Well, who's not sitting down to
725
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:52,600
see who your rival or soon,
who's getting, I taken?
726
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:55,900
It's true, man.
I think you know, talking about
727
00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:59,400
that Pro Bowl weekend is
probably a very good week in the
728
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,000
lookout because it's a couple
weeks ahead of Nationals the
729
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,900
traditional national Signing
Day, but it's on a weekend where
730
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:09,600
you're not competing with the
All that much, especially if you
731
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,500
get into Thursday Friday and
Saturday, especially if you're
732
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,200
doing something in the daytime
on on Saturday.
733
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:17,600
I think you're going to be fine
there.
734
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,700
So I think Pro Bowl, we could
really turn into something.
735
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:26,200
That's about more than just, you
know, the guys that were good
736
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,300
but our thing in the Super Bowl,
playing an exhibition do that,
737
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,200
actually, I love that idea man,
because if you really have it,
738
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,900
you have so many pro bowlers
there, who could announce two
739
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:41,600
picks for Alma maters.
And I know earlier and we
740
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,500
brought him up a couple times.
You had some questions about the
741
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,000
financial side where we finally
got here.
742
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:51,300
We're through the draft when it
probably should take place.
743
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,600
What type of draft it is, but we
are now here.
744
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,500
It's so, we're talking about per
athlete now.
745
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:02,900
So we've kind of address, the
big picture Financial.
746
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:07,000
Let's look, let's take a look at
the individual, how it affects
747
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,400
an individual student Wait.
So you got the idea of paying
748
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,700
twenty, Kay a year per athlete
for up to 85 athletes per team.
749
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:22,700
So since we're still at the
draft version and not after a
750
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:24,400
student is enrolled, what
happens?
751
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,900
Financially should a student
athlete choose not to enroll at
752
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:30,300
their.
Drafted School child is the
753
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:32,800
biggest piece of financial for
those athletes.
754
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,200
If you choose not to play for
the school that drafted them but
755
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,200
you choose one of the other 65
schools.
756
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,300
That's keep here.
Involved with the draft you
757
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:46,700
forfeit three years of salary.
You essentially forfeit Ten
758
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:51,700
dollars worth of money.
That's a lot of money that you
759
00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:54,800
if you told me, Brian, if me and
you were told each other.
760
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:57,700
Hey, if you go here, will give
you 60 Grand or give you 20
761
00:45:57,700 --> 00:45:59,900
grand a year to go school.
You okay, that's cool.
762
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,000
But if you go over there, you're
going to lose all that, huh?
763
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,500
But remember, the one thing I
told you about the G5 schools,
764
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:11,600
they had some benefits.
Well, if you get drafted, and
765
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,400
you don't want to go play there,
but you go play it to G5 School.
766
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:20,600
Your ecu's hear you out.
CS you don't lose that salary.
767
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:26,300
So D5 schools probably going to
be hired some groups recruiters
768
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,100
to go have to some of those
kids.
769
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:33,600
Okay?
So so that that we're talking
770
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,900
about another situation where,
you know, talking to kids are
771
00:46:36,908 --> 00:46:40,800
going to be crucial.
Absolutely.
772
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,800
It's going to be crucial to
begin staying with them.
773
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,000
Now, you asked about some
transfer stuff earlier to only
774
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,700
hit that real quick.
It's going to be similar to
775
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:54,600
transfer if you transfer with
the one-time exception because I
776
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,500
do like that a lot to one of the
other 65 schools, you do lose a
777
00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:01,900
year of your salary.
Now, if you go to a G5 School,
778
00:47:01,900 --> 00:47:05,700
same way you don't lose anything
grad transfers there, they're
779
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:09,200
done with essentially the school
they started with they don't
780
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,800
lose Is anything when they
transfer, they keep that salary.
781
00:47:12,100 --> 00:47:17,800
So the bigger piece here is, you
know, you get drafted somewhere.
782
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:19,700
You don't like you, but you
don't want to lose that much
783
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:21,700
money, you know, I'm going to go
here and get my 20K in and
784
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:25,000
transfer it while won't go.
Well, you know the dice rolled
785
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,800
Brian when you start
transferring because it's like
786
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,300
you're going to be behind people
already.
787
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,200
You're not gonna know the
chemistry of the team you're
788
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,800
going to have to learn to play
book.
789
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:37,300
Is it worth twenty thousand
dollars to go somewhere?
790
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,200
Where maybe you think has more
class Or maybe you think so
791
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:45,000
better situation?
Okay, so it makes it makes you
792
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,500
think twice about Cloud chasing
or going to these traditional
793
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:55,300
NFL factories just for the sake
of doing it versus sticking out
794
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:59,200
and showing what you can do on
the field at a non-traditional
795
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,400
school or a school that doesn't
quite have that that same level
796
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,700
of clout, so piggybacking on
that.
797
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:09,100
So we're talking about G5,
still, has that option there,
798
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:13,300
but the biggest critique I have
is, you know, we talked about
799
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:17,400
the The draft funding in the 60k
for the draft eligible schools.
800
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:22,400
Who's funding the 60k, should a
player choose to go to G5.
801
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,600
How many scholar Ash athletes,
are they expected to be paid?
802
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:31,000
If they end up playing for G5,
I'll be, I really like the idea
803
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,600
of the player losing out.
Should they choose to go to
804
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,700
another school?
Because it requires the player
805
00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:39,800
and the coach to be upfront
during the pre-draft process.
806
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,200
If you blow smoke up a coach's
ass about being willing to play
807
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,500
there, R or they draft you and
then you're you're in a spot.
808
00:48:47,500 --> 00:48:51,900
If you change your mind or if
you were bullshitting them in
809
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:55,700
Jumping Ship, now you actually
got some real world consequences
810
00:48:56,500 --> 00:49:00,000
for those decisions.
At the same time, a coach will
811
00:49:00,008 --> 00:49:03,700
need to be upfront about a
player and how they will be
812
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:06,200
deployed or how soon they will
play.
813
00:49:07,300 --> 00:49:10,200
Because that's still going to be
a selling point for the
814
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,700
situation, but I'm still
concerned.
815
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,800
If they go through all that and
they still decide, they want to
816
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,400
go G5, how are they getting
funded?
817
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,800
All right.
Yeah, I'm gonna hit the G5 first
818
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,900
and we'll come back to the other
piece about, you know, the
819
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:28,600
recruiting part of it.
The G5 is going to have to find
820
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,600
their own salaries, just like
the other 66.
821
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,300
Now, the number of trade
prospects.
822
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:34,200
Again, we set it with the other
guys.
823
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,200
It's going to be at the
discretion of the school.
824
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,700
You don't want it.
E5, you don't have to have any
825
00:49:38,700 --> 00:49:40,800
5.
This is completely up to you.
826
00:49:40,900 --> 00:49:45,900
It's an option out there to
offer the player this so they
827
00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:48,800
have to make those decisions.
They have to look at their
828
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,000
football, but some of them, you
know, are looking at.
829
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,900
Some of them are making money
where this would be a problem.
830
00:49:58,900 --> 00:50:01,800
Some of them are probably the
football program pays for
831
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,600
itself.
What do we do?
832
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,200
There's four, five years, ten
kids, we were Ali.
833
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,700
Like we can get if we pay them
but how do we talk to the other
834
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:13,600
seven times?
Now to your other point you're
835
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,500
absolutely right about blowing
smoke up people's asses and how
836
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:18,500
you recruit.
First of all, I don't think any
837
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:24,000
player that gets drafted in this
by school is going to be one of
838
00:50:24,008 --> 00:50:26,500
those are they're just they just
want to get this clout guy.
839
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000
Why are you going to do that?
If they spent really could
840
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,900
leave, if we're drafting you, we
feel that you are one of the
841
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:35,600
eight players that can come in
and make an immediate impact,
842
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,200
right?
No doubt, no doubt, that's my
843
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:45,000
thought.
A starting role by your by your
844
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,700
second year.
I think that's going to be
845
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,400
problematic if you're taking
guys like that.
846
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:52,500
Absolutely.
And it's just one of those
847
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:56,800
things because it's really where
it starts, leveling the playing
848
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,300
field.
Because now there's ABC options.
849
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:02,100
Now, you have to be real because
you aren't getting those option.
850
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:06,200
They don't have Country, Coach
has to be, you have to coach up.
851
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,200
Those who aren't as talented,
you know, if you don't have 11 5
852
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,400
stars, You're getting in this
recruiting class and you got to
853
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:18,300
well how good of a coach are
you?
854
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,300
You know?
That's that's a thing to think
855
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:24,700
about that.
So many times like are you
856
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:27,300
really a good coach or do you
just have guys who were made for
857
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:29,600
the NFL and you're just here
riding them?
858
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:33,000
So yeah.
All right man.
859
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,600
Well you know the theme of this
entire conversation is mostly
860
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:42,300
been me arguing money, whether
it's how to fund the draft.
861
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:48,900
To fund the 20K, whether from a
power 5 or a G5 situate
862
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:52,000
situation.
I haven't really focused a lot
863
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,400
on Logistics or bylaws.
So, let's talk Logistics and
864
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:00,800
bylaws, you know what role is
the NCAA going to play in
865
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:05,100
governing this system?
What rules exist for player
866
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:11,500
image likeness and are there
going to be any changes to the
867
00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:14,100
3-year rule?
Rule for going pro.
868
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:17,200
I know that's more of an NFL
thing than an NCAA thing, but I
869
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,600
think some of this is going to
be reciprocal and how is pro
870
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,600
defined under these new rules
since players are being
871
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,600
compensated directly for their
play.
872
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:32,200
All right, so first of all, the
NCAA would have three to five
873
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:37,100
players of every team randomly
off of the pay players, randomly
874
00:52:37,100 --> 00:52:39,900
audited yearly and by that
entire asthma and their
875
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:42,200
financials, their assets and
Lead thing there.
876
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:46,100
Or a value.
So you want to set this up so if
877
00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:51,200
a booster starting to pay the
players and they get caught,
878
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,300
Adam is Mobsters get caught,
they get called actually doing a
879
00:52:53,308 --> 00:52:56,500
crimes now.
Well, Phoenix, it's usually
880
00:52:56,500 --> 00:53:00,900
findings is this crew, you know
them over so you know what, you
881
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:03,200
know, ability to properly and
launder their money.
882
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,000
There you go.
So, in this case, do I foresee
883
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,200
happening.
Absolutely.
884
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:11,200
But for me, I think you don't
punish the kids that hard.
885
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,700
I think you lay off the kid.
Kids, again, there's somewhere
886
00:53:14,700 --> 00:53:19,500
between the age of 17. 22,
they're young, you know kind of
887
00:53:19,508 --> 00:53:21,000
unaware of this.
It to me.
888
00:53:21,300 --> 00:53:23,400
You crush the school that lets
it happen and you crush the
889
00:53:23,408 --> 00:53:25,800
boosters.
When I say Crush to boosters,
890
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,900
they don't allow to associate
with the school.
891
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:29,700
They can't be anywhere near that
campus.
892
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,400
They essentially get their pride
and joy trip that.
893
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,500
They're one of these guys that
can walk and talk to all the
894
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:36,800
players and get to know them,
get to pictures in the
895
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,900
autographs and take it away from
you want to see some booster,
896
00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:42,300
stop doing shit.
That's how you stop him, right?
897
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,700
There then remove the clouds.
Remove the clout.
898
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,800
Ding.
Ding now I would like to see
899
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,400
going forward with the ncaa's.
Guidelines are going to be for
900
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:59,400
the name image and likeness rule
that's coming down just to see
901
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:00,900
kind of.
They're going to have a cap on
902
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:04,800
that, I'm assuming they will.
So again it would probably
903
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,100
slowly fall into that line with
the audible players, you take
904
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:11,000
three of the five.
You look at what they got on
905
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:14,500
their salary, what they got with
the name image and likeness and
906
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:18,300
dive into it that way.
And you said it before the
907
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:21,600
three-year Rule is, it's an NFL
rule.
908
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,900
That's not an NCAA rule, they
aren't professionals.
909
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:28,000
The reason these kids are being
compensated is because they are
910
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,500
representing their school
publicly.
911
00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:34,600
Because as you know, and the one
thing that stuck with me so long
912
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,500
ago, that when we started this
conversation, most students can
913
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:42,700
get a job working on campus
these guys cans.
914
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:46,900
But what they're doing, how
they're working to put into the
915
00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:49,400
putting their bodies on the
line, candy canes.
916
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:54,500
War, you know, 60 70 hundred
thousand people to watch and pay
917
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,500
to see him play, and then
Millions more on TV that back.
918
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:01,700
That's their job.
That's their just work study
919
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:04,500
ever.
It's like me becoming an RA or
920
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:07,400
working for housing or you like
being a front desk agent.
921
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,700
There is no difference except
they make a lot more.
922
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,700
They bring in a lot more money
than we do.
923
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:16,800
And a lot of work studies, don't
ask you to put your body on line
924
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,300
like that, man.
It's true.
925
00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:22,100
History of not played V3, so I
put my body on the line for
926
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:25,500
free, but yeah, I get where
you're coming from with that.
927
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,100
That definitely playing at a
high level like that definitely,
928
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:32,500
you know, comes with some Hazard
pay as it were, all right.
929
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:35,600
So you telling me, I get paid
20K a year though and with my
930
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,300
only uncovered mandatory expense
being gas money.
931
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,600
Yeah, it's still take that.
So now that we've more or less
932
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,400
laid out the key points,
anything else the audience needs
933
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,400
to know about this plan.
No real.
934
00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:51,500
Other key point because it's
kind of laid out here.
935
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:55,200
But a question for you.
Brian, you have seen and you've
936
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,900
heard this plans for years.
I mean Year we're, it's
937
00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:05,200
borderline a decade-old.
Now, let me ask this does this
938
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,800
plan benefit the players?
Does it benefit?
939
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,900
The players is that you give me
a yes or no?
940
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,100
Yeah, players definitely have
some benefit here.
941
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:16,100
No doubt.
Because again, they're getting
942
00:56:16,100 --> 00:56:21,600
financially compensated for
their play directly, not them
943
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,100
having to hustle.
I mean, even even under the more
944
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:27,900
ideal situation that we're
looking at coming into play here
945
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:30,800
with image and likeness.
They still have to the hustle
946
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,000
themselves to get those things
put in place.
947
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:35,600
This is okay.
Well, you're playing for us.
948
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,500
You get paid, there you go.
So some other things.
949
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,500
That's a big benefit big benefit
for the players.
950
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:45,600
And does this benefit the top
10% of college football or the
951
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:49,700
other 90, in terms of the ones
that are part of the draft and
952
00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:54,500
even indirectly, I could say,
some of the, the g5s definitely
953
00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:58,000
benefits the other ninety and I
think it puts a greater
954
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:02,700
influence on building
relationships and coaching on
955
00:57:02,700 --> 00:57:06,900
the field prop on the field
product, versus selling
956
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:12,200
miscellaneous off the field, I
think in many ways will learn
957
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,700
that.
A good coach will get a kid
958
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:17,800
drafted, no matter what
university they represent, and
959
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,600
I'd like to see that.
I mean, the schools that we call
960
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,700
NFL factories are called such
because so many of the most
961
00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:27,400
talented players are going there
and every year they've got a
962
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,500
four or five star guy playing
the key positions on that team.
963
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,800
Yeah, and I'm going to say this
about the NFL factories, the one
964
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,100
big Advantage, they have over
the next tier schools there and
965
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:40,900
you set it there.
So deep Deep top guy goes down.
966
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:46,900
Another top guy comes right into
fall into place and it's tough
967
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,800
to tell it in Collegiate level.
If it's the coaching or if I got
968
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:55,200
was just born play football and
I tell you if the system has
969
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,300
ever adopted, you imagine a team
like Ohio State who was just
970
00:57:58,300 --> 00:58:00,700
always loaded, so many talented
players.
971
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,900
You imagine them that five
starting left tackle goes down
972
00:58:04,900 --> 00:58:07,700
and then this the to star from
down the road.
973
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:14,900
He's probably isn't ready to
play, that's a fact of life for
974
00:58:14,900 --> 00:58:17,900
the other 90%.
I mean, we see it every year
975
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:22,400
with our team being, the Hokies,
we see it every year happen, and
976
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,400
it's the other schools as well.
That aren't in that essentially,
977
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,800
upper echelon and I'm going to
tell you another thing in, this
978
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,400
could be the trigger if it's
everywhere to happen.
979
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:36,200
I bet you Infidel front.
Offices, would love this idea
980
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:38,800
because then they would be able
to see what kids.
981
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,200
Truly can play and who just
might be along for the ride with
982
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,600
all the other talented guys
around them.
983
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,700
That's true.
Let me pose this question to you
984
00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:51,700
run based on your knowledge of
college football.
985
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:55,600
You watched alot, you're like
me, you'll stay up till 1:00 in
986
00:58:55,607 --> 00:58:57,400
the morning watching the West
Coast games.
987
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,100
You'll watch some random games
them on Thursday night,
988
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:04,200
Wednesday night.
But who do you think really
989
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,400
would Thrive under the system?
What are some teams out there
990
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,900
that you feel just watching them
College?
991
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,900
All your life, that always
seemed like, you know, who do
992
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:15,800
you think thrives here?
So the teams are going to thrive
993
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,100
the most or teams that are
coached, well on the field and
994
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:20,000
the the teams had developed
Talent.
995
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:25,200
Well, and so teams that have
consistently finished ahead of
996
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,700
their recruiting average in the
final standings every year.
997
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:33,300
So teams that might be
recruiting outside the top 25.
998
00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:36,400
Even some cases, outside the top
40, but still finishing in the
999
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:41,200
top 25 more or less.
At least, once every three to
1000
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,600
five years.
You know, let's talk about teams
1001
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:50,400
like Wisconsin, Iowa, Virginia
Tech West, Virginia Tech's does
1002
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:55,700
Christian Oregon, Stanford,
you'd of Mississippi State and
1003
00:59:55,700 --> 00:59:58,300
Baylor.
I think all of those systems
1004
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:00,300
would probably have greater
success under this system
1005
01:00:00,300 --> 01:00:03,800
because you'd be looking at what
they do from a talent
1006
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,000
development and from an on-field
perspective, and not just,
1007
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,800
whether they can stack their
team.
1008
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:11,800
With four and five star kids
did.
1009
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,000
I that's such a freaking awesome
way to put it.
1010
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:16,300
I mean, I put Kentucky in there
under Mark Stoops.
1011
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:16,800
What?
He's done.
1012
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,400
There's great put Utah.
They would Kyle Winningham.
1013
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,600
I mean, never getting those
top-tier guys but always
1014
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:28,000
finishing good.
So, let me flip it around.
1015
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:30,500
Who's going to struggle to
adapt?
1016
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:33,800
Who?
This is not trying to be mean
1017
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,600
but which coaching staff you
look at and say Jesus Christ.
1018
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,300
If I I go out there.
I can make these guys 19 games
1019
01:00:41,300 --> 01:00:45,300
without even blinking.
All right, so first one's going
1020
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:51,300
to be the other team that likes
to clean the dvu moniker Ohio
1021
01:00:51,300 --> 01:00:53,700
State.
I think they would struggle
1022
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:58,300
because I think they have a way
of pumping five star Talent into
1023
01:00:58,300 --> 01:01:00,800
that program with their
recruiting.
1024
01:01:01,700 --> 01:01:03,600
And often times you don't see
it.
1025
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,600
Pay off relative to those
recruiting numbers.
1026
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:10,800
I think teams like my Me in
Texas, you know, we always keep
1027
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,800
hearing.
All right, this is this is the
1028
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,100
year for Texas or this is the
year for the U.
1029
01:01:15,100 --> 01:01:18,800
The U is back or Texas's back.
I think they would struggle even
1030
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,900
more because you haven't seen
progress in their own feel
1031
01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:27,000
product, despite them bringing
in top 15, top 20 classes in the
1032
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:31,200
case of Texas, consistently top,
ten classes Penn State would see
1033
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,500
a drop off.
Because again, you know, they've
1034
01:01:33,500 --> 01:01:36,400
under a tree achieved relative
to some of the recruiting
1035
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:41,000
numbers they brought in I'd
argue teams with recruiting
1036
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,500
bumps of late would probably
also struggle.
1037
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:46,600
So, we're talking about the
unc's in the Maryland's of the
1038
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,600
world that are pumping out, you
know, top 5 and top ten classes
1039
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:55,500
so far going into 2021 that you
know, we haven't seen what that
1040
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:57,500
on-field products going to look
like yet, but I don't think
1041
01:01:57,500 --> 01:02:01,700
you'll you won't see the buzz
that it is being created around
1042
01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:03,900
their classes.
So I think that they would
1043
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:06,400
struggle as well and you know,
UNC in Maryland have
1044
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,800
consistently not not had great
on field.
1045
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,200
Dogs.
And now you're starting to see
1046
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,600
them get recruits.
You're like okay what's going
1047
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,100
on?
That's the in they would even
1048
01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:17,500
fall further south from that
under the new system.
1049
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,500
Yeah.
I'm with you on a high state
1050
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:25,500
right now with how much talent
they have and how much talent
1051
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:28,000
and you watch District students,
like almost are bringing in.
1052
01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:31,000
I can't tell you, if Ronde is a
great head coach, a great
1053
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,800
football coach or not or if he
just has a bunch of NFL players
1054
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,000
on the roster, and it doesn't
really take that much to get
1055
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,800
them going.
I'll put Tennessee with your
1056
01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:43,000
Exes in your Miami assessments,
they're always getting talented.
1057
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,200
Even the few years while
Pruitt's been, you're still
1058
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:50,600
getting Talent, not producing.
I do like food as a coach.
1059
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:56,500
I think he might be the answer
there but we don't know to help
1060
01:02:57,100 --> 01:02:59,900
the huh.
I am going to disagree with you
1061
01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:04,300
about Penn State because I do
think James Franklin could be
1062
01:03:04,300 --> 01:03:06,100
okay.
He did some really good things
1063
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:08,800
and Bandy, he's not afraid to
make.
1064
01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:12,400
Is on his staff.
He's shown that even in the last
1065
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,700
few years was getting recruiting
classes, he's trying to.
1066
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:17,200
It looks like he's trying to
bring him better coaching.
1067
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,100
I think he's fallen under this
thing that he is going to be a
1068
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:24,300
good recruiter and is becoming
easier and I think he's I think
1069
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:26,600
he feels he's taken his eye off
the ball in the coaching
1070
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:28,400
Twilight fired.
His offensive coordinator
1071
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:29,800
brought in the guy from
Minnesota.
1072
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:36,000
Now UNC in Maryland, they just
have great recruiting head.
1073
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,600
Coaches, the biggest difference
is this Mac has won.
1074
01:03:38,900 --> 01:03:44,700
Games in the past, my clocks,
their Sixth and 40 that's six
1075
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:47,800
and forty careers a head coach,
that's atrocious.
1076
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:52,600
If I were kids parents, I would
just look at me like how he
1077
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,200
coached almost 50 games and you
haven't even 120 yet?
1078
01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:03,200
Yeah, I mean, I mean, you would
think you would lucky.
1079
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,700
They least getting, you know,
one one season, where you sneak
1080
01:04:06,700 --> 01:04:08,400
into a bowl and he hasn't done
that.
1081
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,600
I mean exactly.
Alright.
1082
01:04:11,900 --> 01:04:16,100
Alright, so there it is, folks.
All right, so Curtis you laid up
1083
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:19,200
the plan.
I've done my best to try Poke
1084
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:23,000
holes and bring up counterpoints
our listeners can know that I
1085
01:04:23,008 --> 01:04:26,300
give given due diligence to what
you're laying out.
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As I said at the beginning, it's
not perfect.
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And some of the measures would
make for some hard choices, but
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I 17 and 18 year olds because
they be looking at their choice
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01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,300
of University, kind of, in some
ways being being stripped from
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01:04:44,300 --> 01:04:46,800
them, ultimately.
So that would be a big thing for
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01:04:46,808 --> 01:04:52,000
them to have to decide on.
It is also being given 80,000
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01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:53,900
dollars.
Absolutely.
1093
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:56,300
Yeah.
They're upside to that, but
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01:04:56,300 --> 01:05:00,600
we're still talking about a year
old guys, of which not all of
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01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,700
them, even the five and
four-star guys are gonna you
1096
01:05:03,700 --> 01:05:07,900
know as the NCAA likes to point
out you know make a career in
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01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:09,900
something other than football
and shit like that.
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01:05:09,900 --> 01:05:14,500
So the point the point is that,
you know, you're you're still
1099
01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:17,600
talking about that that being
taken from their hands in in
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01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,400
some, some Great.
So, but it would present a more
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01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,400
balanced product on the field
and it would make recruiting
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01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:28,400
more about the big picture
stuff, instead of the perception
1103
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,800
of a program.
Big picture, meaning on the
1104
01:05:31,808 --> 01:05:35,300
field product, and have
relationships that our coach
1105
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:38,100
has, with the players,
absolutely?
1106
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,100
It would go back to that and I
think my biggest takeaway from
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01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:45,200
this, and what really kind of
brought me to kind of say, okay,
1108
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,300
well, it's fucking out there,
but, you know, let's give it a
1109
01:05:48,300 --> 01:05:53,000
ride.
I'd it is out there and but it's
1110
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,600
one of those things too.
That if somebody would show the
1111
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,800
projections of those P5
conferences, hey you're going to
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01:05:59,808 --> 01:06:04,600
make a lot more money a year.
They look at Ohio State and they
1113
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,900
look at Texas and they look at
some of your other programs and
1114
01:06:06,908 --> 01:06:10,900
say, sorry dogs.
More money is out there.
1115
01:06:10,900 --> 01:06:13,500
Why is the NFL King right now
because of parity?
1116
01:06:14,100 --> 01:06:16,000
And that's why they have the
draft.
1117
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,700
That's why you can't just walk
in and say, yo, I'm the best
1118
01:06:18,700 --> 01:06:20,700
quarterback in college on.
Come play for your team.
1119
01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:24,100
Can't do that.
Alright, so here's the question
1120
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:27,700
fans that we're going to ask you
in a post out on Twitter, what
1121
01:06:27,700 --> 01:06:31,200
schools, benefit the most from
this type of draft, who suffers,
1122
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,300
we've given our answers here.
So, we want to hear yours, we
1123
01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:39,200
want to hear if you think, no
Ronde is a great coach Ohio
1124
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:42,200
state would keep on Chuck, and
they keep on going to Rose Bowls
1125
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:46,800
and making the playoffs.
So that's the way we're going to
1126
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,100
ask you guys to come up with it
Brian.
1127
01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:52,900
Yeah, let us know.
It's going to be the biggest
1128
01:06:52,900 --> 01:06:55,800
benefactor from a draft.
I think that's the thing.
1129
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,800
We want to know is like, who do
you think's going to benefit the
1130
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,000
most, and who's going to suffer?
Because like I said, we Curtis
1131
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,700
said we laid it out and I think
some of you probably won't come
1132
01:07:05,700 --> 01:07:07,800
up with maybe some different
answers than what we came up
1133
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,300
with.
So let's see what you got.
1134
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:11,800
Absolutely.
Alright.
1135
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,700
So that is we're going to put
the bow on it.
1136
01:07:13,700 --> 01:07:16,700
That's going to wrap up this
This episode go to the boundary
1137
01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:19,500
corn project.
My name is Curtis Wilson, I'm
1138
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:23,000
Brad Ziegler.
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1139
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,000
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1140
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,400
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1141
01:07:28,700 --> 01:07:30,700
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1142
01:07:30,700 --> 01:07:34,200
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1143
01:07:35,300 --> 01:07:38,800
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1144
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:40,000
Okay.