This week we're taking a dive into where the chips fell with the shuffling of the offensive and defensive staff this off season. We also examine the roster updates for 2025, some of our early takeaways from Spring practice, and put a bow on winter sports.

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner podcast.

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Along with my partner, Brian
Siegler, I am Curtis Wilson.

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We are part of the college
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In this episode, as always is
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What's up, man?

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Man, I'm tired dude.
I'm just going just straight up

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saying I'm tired right now.
You got the grind before the

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cruise you.
Hit the hit before the cruise

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works and doing doing a training
at work this week man like right

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up to the last second before the
cruise getting everything ready

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for the cruise.
Birthday parties, kid, my kids

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birthday party, neighbors kids
birthday party, baseball.

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I know you got stuff going on
too.

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Yeah, man, it's, it's been a
busy week.

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Been a bit busy last few weeks
trying to get some, some stuff

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checked off at work, trying to
get some, you know, busy with

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the sun's got, you know, sports
going on now.

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We're we're kind of ramping up
for, you know, spring ball now.

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So it's, you know, we, we've had
some other side discussions and

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stuff like that on, on that
topic.

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So I mean, it's been a, it's
been a busy time.

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Excited to finally get back
together here on Air.

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Air it out a little bit.
Air it out back, back to the

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back to the dynamic.
Duo yeah, we are.

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We are missing Tally tonight.
He's got a lot going on in on

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his plate too, so.
Baseball kids.

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Work we, we, we couldn't get a
night where all of us could get

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on.
So we, we're like, if we don't

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pull the trigger now, we're
might not, might not get another

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one in before before the spring
game.

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So 100.
Percent.

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Here we are.
Yeah, Shelton on hiatus.

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Hiatus.
Our our buddy coach Robbie

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Compton heading to Chalk Talk in
less than 48 hours.

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We might have to convince him to
come on when we get back.

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I think so.
Josh, what am I sipping on

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tonight?
Tonight I am sipping on Scotch.

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You know what Scotch it is,
right Ron?

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In the bar downstairs.
Is it the blended?

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No.
No, no, it's the Kirkland.

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It is Costco Scotch, all right.
For those who may live in South

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Carolina or Maryland, go to
Costco, get you a bottle, the

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black Label Kirkland Scotch.
My, my neighbor Andrew down the

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street recommended it years ago.
Basically it's a Johnnie Walker

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Black and it's like 50 bucks for
a handle.

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We drink it.
Brian's had it.

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He knows it's good.
Oh yeah.

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You know we're.
Hey, it's it's it's cheap, but

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it's.
Not cheap.

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It's it's it's.
Cheap for what it is.

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There you go.
It's cheap for what it is

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exactly and by the way, Brian,
the vodka we had last summer.

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Yep, what 12 bucks for a handle
and it was legitimately a hyper

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in yes, we'd love for Scotts go
to sponsor our show Josh.

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I would, I would love that they
could come right along with

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Jeremy, you know?
That's right.

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I mean, you know, give me a free
membership and a hot dog anytime

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I want it.
Even though it's only $1.50,

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I'll, I'll save that buck 50 and
we'll.

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Call them, they could.
They could get probably

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everybody in this program, they
gave us all one definitely.

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We can definitely pull the
trigger.

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Yeah.
Is there is there like a like a

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Costco black card or something
that I can get?

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Exactly.
Yeah, but like Brian said, we're

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doing this tonight because we
needed to punch it before we we

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are not here next week.
We likely are going to be able

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to do a spring show.
Literally.

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We're going to be hanging out on
a cruise all week together.

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We're probably going to be
writing the show line by line.

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And the the GoPro is coming with
me, so I might, I might sprinkle

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in some some some live footage
next week next.

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Time we watch.
I don't know if we need that.

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Man depends, depends on what
it's going to be and, and, and

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what we say and what we do.
We'll see if we'll see if it's

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quality.
We'll see if it's, you know, I

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mean, we're not, we're not
necessarily safe for work here.

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But you know, it's a cruise.
So I mean, she can get wild.

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Yeah, 50 is cheap for a handle,
Robbie, but let's break it down.

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What are we doing tonight?
Well, we had not truly talked

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about the complete makeup of the
staff.

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We had French on just the just a
couple weeks ago to go through

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kind of the new scheme, what we
were expecting.

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But we never had that chance to
talk about what does new, new

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staff look like.
We talked about some of the

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hires here and there, but what
are our takes on it?

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And we wanted to break into that
tonight.

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Then we wanted to break into
obviously what came out a little

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earlier this week with basically
the new roster, the new height

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weight measurements, seeing all
that.

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We've also seen some tapes shout
out Kobe, Andy, David put them

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out there, some takes from
what's going on inside practice.

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Couple things that piqued our
interest.

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But we're going to unload just
quite a few things tonight.

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And Brian, let's let's just
start over all with the staff

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changes.
I want to start on defense

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because that's the first one we
did.

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Everybody knows we've hired Sam
Cephas as the defensive

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coordinator.
As of right now, what is it

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March 25th?
March 26th. 2025 year of our

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Lord, this is how the staff
shakes out and stance.

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Keithus does not have a position
pilot.

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He is defensive coordinator.
What we expect to be a walking

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around defensive coordinator.
Now let's go real quick and just

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hit the rest of the staff and
talk about some things.

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JC Price still here, associate
head coach, defensive line

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coach.
Derek Jones, Cheetah still at

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corners.
Pearson Prelude, still the

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safeties coach.
Sean Quinn is now the outside

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linebackers coach.
Xavier ADBX to the Z Call him X,

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however you refer.
He is now the inside linebacker

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coach with the two new hires.
Jerry Wilson, who came up from

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Georgia Southern, I believe he
was Georgia Southern.

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I have to pull my notes on him
real quick.

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Who played under Sam Cifcas as a
defensive lineman down at

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Wofford is the edges coach.
Brian Whitehead, a coach defense

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with Steve Kiss down at Wofford
is the Nichols coach.

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And obviously if you look at the
chart there are a plethora of

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just defensive assistants laying
all around.

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You know JGW safeties you're
looking at the vault Smith

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cornerbacks, Jensen Johnson
junior D line.

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So a plethora of assistant
coaches on here.

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Brian, I want to ask you this
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When everything finally came
down, I think me and you've been

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speculating, were you shocked
that there were no additional

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movement on the defensive staff?
Everybody who was here, with the

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exception of Chris Marv, is
still here.

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I think so if I'm, if I'm
circling a spot on the field

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that I'm surprised that this
person still is coaching that

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unit given what we know about
Cephas, given what we know about

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what he's bringing to a table
from a role that the safeties

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play in the defense.
I was expecting someone

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different at that spot.
And that's not to say that

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Pearson can't get it done, but I
think a combination of, you

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know, having less prior
experience, not being the best

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unit last year, doing something
different with the safety unit

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this year.
I thought that was going to be a

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prime time to him transition
back into more of a not

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necessarily off the field roll,
but a more behind the scenes

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role in this in the staff.
And we didn't see it.

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And and that's not to say it's
something to be, you know, to

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Josh's point here, something to
be concerned about.

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I'm interested to see, you know,
Sam is going to be a walk around

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DC, but is he going to spend a,
a, a healthy majority of that

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time working with the safeties?
And I know he's a guy that he's

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coached linebackers, he's
coached safeties.

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I mean, he's got the he's got
the understanding, I think to,

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you know, inform those position
groups to to a healthy degree.

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But that's definitely the
probably the most interesting

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position because I think it's
the one we expected to see

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movement in.
And when you look at a guy like

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Jerry Wilson, who is coming in
to coach edges, played edge, but

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also was a primarily a, a
safeties coach during his his

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coaching tenure.
I think that's where we saw is

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he, is he the guy or is he going
to be kind of another guy in

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that room?
And, and ultimately that's

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that's not where it went.
It's really interesting because

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The thing is a lot of people are
saying, well, you feel perceived

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because it's not his staff, but
then you start looking around

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and well, AI don't think he
would have let JC Price go.

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I'm I'm just going to be for
real.

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In my opinion, there are three
guys he would not have let go on

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the staff.
JC Price is one of them,

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Xavier's one of them, and
Quinn's one of them.

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If you had told me Cheetah was
let go or Pearson moved to a

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different role, I would not have
been shot.

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But I kind of sit here back and
think about it.

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We're at a day and age where
this can be done.

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Because let's think about it.
We now can do unlimited coaches,

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right?
You have unlimited amount of

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coaches.
So if you're going to be

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transitioning, why go ahead and
RIP everything out when likely

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what you could do is make it a
one to two year transition?

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Think.
Think about that.

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What's up Will?
What's going on, Will?

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But think about that, Brian.
You're trying to make everything

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smooth.
Guys like Bam trying to learn

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the team if you get everybody in
place.

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And again, X being with the
linebackers last year, getting

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to know the players quicker,
getting to know their

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attributes, getting to know
their weaknesses, their

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strengths.
He's not relying on all new

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eyes, even in the safeties room,
right, even the corner room.

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So I think that's why this was
done.

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I'm going to have a question in
a little while concerning

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recruiting.
Let's see is edge not really

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outside linebacker now?
And well, that's the question,

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Robbie that we're going to
probably be asking up to the

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spring game is like, for
example, is there going to be a

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could there be, Brian, you go
back to what we talked about

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with French and just kind of
looking at it yourself, could

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edges be guys playing the five
tech not playing outside that

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and that's more outside
linebacker responsibility if we

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go to a three man front.
I mean, I know we're going to

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get to it, but the stuff we've
we've seen, I'm I'm seeing a

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whole lot of kind of 24 fronts,
2 down, 4 linebacker.

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You know, you got you got an
edge.

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It's that that stand up that's
really almost like a you play in

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a lot of ways, like a three man
front outside linebacker.

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It's it's going to be
interesting to see, I mean,

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Prize said.
It's going to be a multiple

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defense.
I expect to be a multiple

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defense.
You know, you've got you got a

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lot of positional, I think
fluidity there because you're

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going to have guys that are
playing the edge that are going

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to you kind of be lining up in
different positions depending on

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what the what the front call is,
whether it's more of a, you

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know, odd front for in those
nickel packages.

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But I think remains to be seen
and how that impacts, you know,

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who's coming off the field more
than likely a defensive lineman

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in that case, But you know,
maybe not.

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We'll, I guess we'll see as as
things progress and we start to

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get some more tape on what.
Yeah.

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What what, what defense is there
in alignment in outside of base,

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which seems to be a a 245
alignment if from everything

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we've seen so far.
Yeah.

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The other thing, and I don't
know if this was a shot, but.

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I, I I.
I think it's a big vote of

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confidence that Xavier is moved
to an inside linebacker role.

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That is his position.
That is the position he played

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in College in the NFL as the
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I, I, I think in a lot of people
say, well, that could be pride

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pushing it.
I do believe that if Seekest did

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not believe he could coach
position, I think he would have

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said he needs to say assistant
and we would have seen Quinn

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move over.
I, I think that might have been

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my biggest shock was he is the
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He is going to be coaching.
Woodson is going to be Woodson

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Keller platter ball and I know
I'm missing a couple guys names

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right now at the top of my head,
but he is going to be those

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primary guys coaches and I like
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two guys and sometimes one if we
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Yeah, let me ask this.
So we got and I mean, I know I

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think the even in in the new
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got the positions on there, but
now we got these like different

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position groups, right.
So we got Quinn is outside

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linebacker, X is inside
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Are they running a linebacker
media session together?

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Are they splitting that up?
I'm, I'm trying to think about

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when, when you're having a, a
film session with your group,

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are we looking at, at, at
splitting that out into a

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smaller group?
Or are we looking at Quinn and X

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are going to be in that room
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linebacker group as a
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They've got these titles
attached to them, but they for

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for better or worse, are the
linebacker and Co linebacker or

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assistant linebacker coach or
whatever the hell you want to

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call it here.
Those two are the are coaching

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the linebackers and then you
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edges.
I'm guessing he's going to be in

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there with JC, but maybe not.
Is he going to be in there with

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Quinn and XII?
Think that's that's where my

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head goes when I'm looking at
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Like I think it's pretty safe to
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put Whitehead in there with with
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I think there's a there's a good
amount of overlap there in terms

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of what you're looking at on
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Obviously, you know, Nichols
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some cornerback responsibilities
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lot of coverage related aspects,
but it's, it's really going to

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be like having an extra safety
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know, where where it makes sense
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But I, I'm interested from a
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how this is going to be handled
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what I feel like the roles have
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just don't know because because
of how much positional

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flexibility there is.
I, I, I'm not sure exactly how,

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how they're planning on, you
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smaller group off the field
coaching sessions.

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Well, yeah, because like you
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JC, but or could outside
linebacker edges in defensive

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line be all in the same room
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And if Zach's going to have his
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going to have Quinn and Jerry
Wilson, you know, with their

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groups together.
And is it going to be a mix and

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match depending on what the the
specific install is for that

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week?
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But then think about this.
You go to this.

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Whatever it is.
Well, you go to the three high

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safety look, and I know you're
going to you, you, you correct

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me on this, but there are times
the a certain position, the

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certain safety that is the
closer to the box and you and

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you seen the alignment.
It's almost like they're an

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outside linebacker, right?
They're almost playing that the

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old star position, the old whip
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Could they be going in the
linebacker room doing cross

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training because of where
they're aligned?

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It's like they're not really
doing safety stuff.

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It's they're doing, it's the
combination of doing linebacker

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and safety responsibility,
right?

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Are they going to go in there?
Could we have rooms overlapping

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a ton?
Yeah.

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And I mean, we had some of that
in the system last year, but I

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think the the lines have been
blurred a lot more, not only

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with the way they're handling
the staff, the way that we have

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recruited, especially in the
portal this last year as well.

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There's a lot of a lot of
position fluidity.

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I know, you know, Coach Prize
always preached having

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positional fluidity and being
able to play at multiple

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positions and, and things of
that nature.

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And I think it, it's not so much
that this guy can be this and

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this.
I think we we have a lot of guys

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that it works in our favor for
them to be kind of hybrids

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because there's certain
positions that at least if not

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historically, certainly recently
that we've had trouble

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recruiting.
Yes.

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And I think this gives us a
little bit of an advantage from

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that standpoint because we can
bring in highly rated tweeners

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all fucking day.
Yes, we can.

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We've struggled at bringing in
the true Mike.

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We, we, we've struggled at
bringing in that true nose that

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can be dominant.
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We've struggled at bringing in a
a safety that can really bring

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the damn hammer.
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While still being able to cover
and, and this gives us, you

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know, some of that flexibility I
think to to kind of fit fill in

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those gaps a little bit.
So that that is kind of what got

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to happen.
And I mean, we're going to talk

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about that in a few minutes, but
let's get back to what you were

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mentioning in a few minutes ago
from the alignments videos we've

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seen.
And again, these are short

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clips.
It's not everything.

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And it's what effectively the
coaching staff wants the media

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and the public to see in your
head right now what we're going

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to see not only spring game, but
about six months from now.

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If I actually take that back
five months from now, because

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it's basically April, are we
looking at A24 front?

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Yeah, I mean it, I think that's
going to be your base package is

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going to be a 24.
Where could could you tell in

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that one clip?
I think Colby had it.

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Where are the defensive lineman?
What techniques are they?

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From what you could see, and I
know it was that weird side

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angle, but what technique were
they at?

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I mean, it looked like a three
and probably, probably A1 or

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A2I, more than likely A2I.
I'd have to look at the clip

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again to confirm.
But I don't think a ton is going

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to change at least in the base
alignment from what we were

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doing last year On the inside.
I think, I think everything is

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going to get interesting is how
are those, how are those 22

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edges are going?
How are they going to be

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deployed?
And then when you, when you

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switch up the the front to an
odd front, what does that look

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like?
Curtis, are you talking because

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you're on mute?
I'm running my mouth like crazy

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over here.
What I was going to say is what

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I was saying is with the
interior defensive line, you

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know, we've always had that one
attacking, usually quick twitch.

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That's the neatest people's last
year acting upfield.

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Do you think we see a difference
this year or do you think it's

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more of we're going to see the
same with there may be times

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where it's not attacking because
from what French told us, from

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what we've seen, is that
defensive line is to eat up

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blockers to stop guys getting to
the second level so the

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linebackers and safeties can
pounce.

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I'm interested to see what it's
going to look like, you know,

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based based on what he was
saying in the tape he watched

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and, and on most of the tape he
was watching was odd front as

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the base.
So we're we're kind of in

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uncharted territory where I
don't know if it's going to be

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kind of a blend of kind of what
Seifkis has done in other spots

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and what JC and others on this
line have taught historically

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and kind of a a blend of that.
Or if there's going to be, yeah,

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very much Seifka's footprint
across the whole thing out the

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gate here.
From what Seifkas has said it,

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it sounds like he's going to be
very adaptable not only to the

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strengths of the roster, but
also the strengths of the staff.

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Yes, he he did say that with the
Damon down with the Roanoke

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time.
So the only thing we can do is

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we can now sit and watch.
Obviously, you know, having

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someone going to these clinics,
you know, we'll be definitely

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picking his brain and then, you
know, we're we're right around

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the corner from the spring game
and seeing it in person.

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So it will be interesting.
Right.

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Let's look to the offensive side
of the ball.

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We're going, we're going.
We're going to touch on that

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here in a little bit, Josh.
Yeah, we will be touching on

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that when it comes to looking at
some gains.

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But let's talk about the
offense.

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Obviously Philip Montgomery
offensive coordinator currently

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as of today March 26th, not
titled with a specific specific

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room.
Matt Moore obviously offensive

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line fine tale minds the
assistant head coach, wide

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receivers.
Brooks still the running back.

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Brian Crist is now the Co
quarterback coach.

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I think it was the assistant
quarterback coach.

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Brent Davis getting moved to
tight end.

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Stu Holt, now officially the
special teams coordinator as an

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offensive assistant.
Again, boatload of assistants,

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including Montgomery's son
Cannon, who's going to be an

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assistant running backs coach.
And let's talk about the staff

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for a second.
First, I think this is what we

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expected.
Probably.

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Maybe even if Tyler Bowen had
stayed.

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Yeah, I think this this is kind
of where things were moving

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regardless of who the ultimate
offensive coordinator was going

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to be.
I think you've set yourself up

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in a better spot with Montgomery
because So I'll say two things

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here.
When you look at Chris title,

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he's still Co quarterback coach.
So while Phillip Montgomery does

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not have a official position
attached to his name, he is the

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de facto quarterback coach here.
Because, I mean, otherwise you

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would call Chris the quarterback
coach just like they called X

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the inside linebacker coach or,
you know what, whatever.

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On the other side of the ball,
he would have been given some

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sort of full, full range of that
title.

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Yes.
So that's denoting that

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Montgomery is if, if not going
to be exclusively in the

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quarterback room, is going to be
primarily in the quarterback

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room.
Yeah, 100% on that.

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And what what about the Stu Holt
move do you like now, huh?

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We I mean I was calling for it
all last.

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Year, so we we call it last
year, but they did it.

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Yeah, they did.
It they did it.

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They did it and now effectively
Virginia Tech in some essence

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has a pseudo NFL model.
Yeah.

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And I think, you know, when you
look at, when you look at

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Montgomery's scheme, Brent Davis
at tight end makes a lot of

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sense here because there's not
going to be a ton of tight end

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usage in the passing game.
It's going to be a lot more

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blocking focused.
So Chris, Chris having that

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title, I think is going to be I
think a good thing for the tight

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end production standpoint from A
at least from a run game

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perspective.
And I think that's that's, you

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know, potentially good news for
wide receivers as well, because

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there's going to be more
opportunities for them to get

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involved in the passing game.
All right.

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No, let me flip to that.
What do you think this offense

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is going to look like right now?
Like is this going to be I?

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I don't think this is full
Baylor 2011.

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Let's just go with that.
But where do you think it's

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landing?
Because and everybody keeps

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screaming Auburn, Auburn,
Auburn.

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But as Tally told us, he won't
run in his offense at all.

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Yeah.
I mean, I think it's going to be

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a version of what we saw at
Baylor.

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I think it's going to be there's
going to be some tweaks to that.

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I think the thing that stood out
to me and I mean it was

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reflected some at least let let
let's talk about this.

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When we when we talk about
Auburn, I don't think I think

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that the fingerprints of I think
the fingerprints were not his on

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the offense from a scheme
standpoint.

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But when we look at the pace of
play and I think he's talked

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about this, he's like, you know,
I know that sometimes you got to

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have a first and a second gear.
You can't go, you know, you

447
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,440
can't be in fourth and 5th the
whole game.

448
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,480
Sometimes you got to have you
got to be in first and second.

449
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,120
You got to throttle it down.
You got to be able to understand

450
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,480
the situation of the game and,
and react to that.

451
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:40,760
And if you look at the splits on
the number of plays at Auburn,

452
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,080
he's still above, way above the
NFL average, but it was his

453
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,640
lowest, you know, per play
average of his career.

454
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,000
I think that is indicative of
probably what we're going to see

455
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,560
here.
Again, you're you're still

456
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,760
talking about someone else's
fingerprints being on the

457
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,200
offense from a scheme
standpoint.

458
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,040
And that probably hindered the
output.

459
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,880
But I think from a pace of play
standpoint, you can expect

460
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,800
something similar from Auburn's
side of the coin there, but a

461
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,040
lot more from a schematic
standpoint of what we saw at

462
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,960
Baylor.
I got you, got you, got you.

463
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,640
Let's put this guy up here
because it has done a while

464
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,920
Jason, since SWVA has checked
in.

465
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,720
Hope you guys are doing well
down there and I don't know, put

466
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,680
this up for Robbie.
I do.

467
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,000
You aren't correct in that
sense, but could I know God's

468
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,360
nails?
Not your perfect split out wide

469
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,040
tight end, but he does have a
decent set of hands, so maybe

470
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,720
he's still involved in other
aspects.

471
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,000
Let me ask this, Brian, I think
I mentioned this maybe six weeks

472
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,800
ago, but you've been watching
more tape.

473
00:30:53,640 --> 00:31:00,960
What excites you most about like
the concepts of what you, I

474
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,800
mean, you've, you've you've
looked at Baylor, you've looked

475
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,440
at Tulsa.
I'm not sure if you've got Josh

476
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,800
mentioning, talking about
looking at the Birmingham UFL

477
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,000
stuff.
But when you see this and know

478
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,960
some of the players we have, you
know, you got, you know, guys

479
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:18,720
like Donovan Green, Aiden Green,
you've got Cam Selden coming and

480
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,840
we'll talk about him a little
bit later as well.

481
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:25,240
He was mentioned in one of prize
pressors pressors this week.

482
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,400
What excites you most?
About Like when you see that and

483
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,080
you start picking like, man,
that, that's this, that's this.

484
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,800
You start connecting all the
dots.

485
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,240
What excites you most?
I mean honestly, you just

486
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,960
mentioned his name.
Cam Selden excites me and I

487
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:48,120
think looking at what what he
could be in this offense excites

488
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,160
me.
Having that gadget style player

489
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,520
got in the slot that much like
Jay Lane plays it like a running

490
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,840
back because I mean, Selden was
a fucking running back and and

491
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,800
Lane had that mentality of a
running back mentality from the

492
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,920
slot receiver position.
And this is this is a scheme

493
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,640
that I think is going to get the
slot a lot more involved than I

494
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,840
think we saw last year.
When we look back to, to kind of

495
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:21,400
2023 compared to 2024, you know,
we saw Jay Lane line up outside

496
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,840
a whole lot more in 2023 and
that's where he made his hay.

497
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:32,160
And I think some of the, just
the scheme and the, and the, and

498
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:37,120
the calls kind of limited, you
know what we were looking at.

499
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,480
So I think Lane's production was
limited.

500
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,840
I think in Monty's system, the
the slot receiver is going to

501
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,800
have a big opportunity to eat
and do a lot of things in space

502
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,240
and and have that running back
mentality, but still less of

503
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,440
that stuff that is behind the
line of scrimmage, which we saw

504
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,120
a ton of in Tyler Bowen system.
So you're not going to see the

505
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,760
jet sweeps, you're not going to
see those as many screens to the

506
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,080
slot, but you will see the ball
quickly in the slots, hands

507
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,520
three to five yards, 3 to 8
yards down, down field and let

508
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,560
him do what he does best.
Perfect, Brian.

509
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,200
And again, we look more forward
to just seeing the tape as we

510
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,440
start getting it.
All right, let's kind of get

511
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:25,400
ready to close this segment out
and and all y'all listening out

512
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,280
there putting on the comments in
the chat.

513
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:32,200
We appreciate that as always.
So you tell me because the way

514
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,960
it looks, we've got an NFL style
system, coordinators likely not

515
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,600
going to recruit Brett Pry and
which 10 assistants are you

516
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,400
putting on the road?
And if y'all want to put in the

517
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,560
chat your 10, go for it.
So, Brian, I'll give you the

518
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,680
floor first.
All right, so you got Pry, you

519
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:54,480
got JC, you got Cheetah.
I think Quinn, obviously, he's

520
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,240
the road dog man.
He's the road dog breaking

521
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,560
bread, hokey style.
He's got it.

522
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:04,840
He's got to be on the road and
you know that.

523
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:09,120
Then it comes down to are you
sending Pearson, you send an XI

524
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:15,199
think I think I'm sending X on
the on the off, on the defensive

525
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,679
side of the ball, you know,
flipping it over to offense,

526
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:23,360
obviously Fontelle, Matt Moore,
Elijah Brooks.

527
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,760
And so it kind of comes down to.
You you you only name 4 on

528
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,920
defense Brian you technically
get.

529
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,760
Plus pry plus pry.
No, no, no, Pratt, you get.

530
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,360
It's 11 total. 11 total. 11
total.

531
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,120
Yeah.
Yeah, it makes yeah.

532
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:53,800
Do I want to send Gimme Wilson?
OK.

533
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:58,000
And other side of the ball, I
think that that makes it pretty

534
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,480
easy.
I mean Fontelle, Matt, Elijah,

535
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:08,280
Crist and and and Brent.
All right, I am on board with

536
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,840
you completely on the offense.
I think Stew Holt will get to

537
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:16,120
just hang out, scheme special
teams up all week, help out

538
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,160
Montgomery as the assistant
defense.

539
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,520
I'm one different.
I think Prelude's going to stay

540
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,880
one more year because I think
it's going to be the transition

541
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,720
year.
And again, prize always talking

542
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:29,200
about let's build the
relationship.

543
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:34,080
I don't think they'll just pull
Pearson off for this class,

544
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,360
maybe not even next class, but
they're going to start working

545
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,280
in maybe Wilson, maybe Wyatt.
I don't know their backgrounds

546
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,200
well enough.
I know the ages.

547
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,160
Wilson is a significantly
younger guy, so that usually

548
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,560
always transitions to you feel
like more relatability to the

549
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,800
players on the road.
But I think Pearson's going to

550
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,000
stay there this year.
And The funny thing is that

551
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,880
question has not been asked, and
I thought someone would have

552
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,440
asked it at least once.
We hired Monty.

553
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,200
Now, by all means, could
Montgomery be a road recruiter?

554
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,800
Yeah, he could.
And they leave Brian, Chris at

555
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,240
home.
But I think the focus this year

556
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:20,640
is we've got to get the scheme
right.

557
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,360
We've got to get the players
right on campus.

558
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:26,760
Why not keep your coordinators
off the road during the

559
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,400
weekdays?
Not worrying about the

560
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,800
recruiting trail, just focusing
on that.

561
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,960
So.
And I know that that's been a

562
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:37,200
model that a lot of big schools
have kind of moved towards is

563
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:41,560
kind of moving away from a full
time recruiting coordinator and

564
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,240
more to I'm the scheme guru.
I'm the closer because I'm the

565
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:52,960
guy that can best illustrate how
players will fit into a scheme

566
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,800
and where they could shine,
where you can highlight their

567
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,400
talents, things of that nature.
But that's not necessarily the

568
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,920
guy that you need in the living
room.

569
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,200
That's a guy that, you know,
once you get a guy, he's on

570
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,840
campus, you know, he, he, you
know, you go see him at a camp,

571
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,120
you know, whatever it may be,
you can kind of close the deal

572
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:16,720
there.
But I'm excited about to just to

573
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:20,480
see how.
And, and I'm with you, Curtis,

574
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,360
because I'm, I'm, I'm shocked
that the question hadn't been

575
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,680
asked yet because I feel like
that's a, a big piece of the

576
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,760
puzzle that, you know, we just
don't know yet.

577
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,640
And I mean, and it took a while
for the staff to shake out.

578
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,160
So I don't know if it's
something that's going to come

579
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,120
in due time or, or what.
But again, I'm shocked it hasn't

580
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,040
really been a question that was
at the forefront of folks mind

581
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,440
when they were talking to Pride.
Yeah, and again, I think some

582
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,160
people look at it just so much,
like right on top of what are

583
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,240
they going to do while they're
here?

584
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:52,200
And it's like, well, there's a
bigger game and I don't know,

585
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,880
high school is not what it was,
you know, even five years ago

586
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,680
with the portal.
But you still, even with the

587
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,760
portal visits, there is still a
chance to go in home or go to

588
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,600
other schools.
Effectively, if you're not one

589
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,200
of the staff members that are
been assigned to the road

590
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,600
recruiting, the only place you
can recruit is an on campus in

591
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,000
Blacksburg.
You cannot recruit elsewhere.

592
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:22,320
So throw this up here, Robbie,
right, kind of in line with us,

593
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,000
with me, I should say.
But it's going to be interesting

594
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,720
to see how that goes and and do
you, do you like to structure

595
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:32,120
overall it seems like you do.
Yeah, I mean, there, there's,

596
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:38,120
there's a little bit of nebulous
there between like Quinn and

597
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,920
Wilson as far as and, and maybe
even Whitehead as far as who's

598
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,920
coaching what like, you know,
and, and we've kind of talked

599
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,280
about that a little bit already
tonight.

600
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,360
But I think from an overall
structure standpoint, I think, I

601
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,840
think it's a good staff.
I think they, they tweaked what

602
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,680
they needed to tweak.
I, I, I'm the only thing I'm,

603
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,360
you know, concerned about, I
think is going to be do we have

604
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,640
the guys on staff now that can
get the safeties where they need

605
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,560
to be in those three high looks?
Yep, 100% right.

606
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,040
So there that is kind of taking
a we have been 10,000 feet kind

607
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:23,320
of getting more on what this
staff looks like for this

608
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,240
upcoming season.
Again, so many things to shake

609
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:30,440
out between now and August and
that first came down in Atlanta.

610
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,520
So it is going to be interesting
to see.

611
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,200
So let's keep moving and let's
get to the roster updates where

612
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,920
I mean, it's it's that time of
year, right, Brian, height,

613
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,640
weight, height, weight.
Look, what's the New Jersey

614
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,960
numbers whose body looks
different when you see them in

615
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,000
pictures?
So we're going to go through

616
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,920
that.
We're going to do it just a

617
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,160
little bit different and we're
going to kind of go through the

618
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:57,880
guys who were here before and
we're going to then talk about

619
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,480
the transfers in general coming
in and kind of what they're

620
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,640
looking like.
But Brian, let's talk about the

621
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,680
guys who were here before.
Let's start with the cornerback

622
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:05,920
room.
As you kind of look through the

623
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,360
big list there of the guys
returning, who jumps off the

624
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,800
page to you.
Seeing Dante Lovett hit that two

625
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,400
bill Mark definitely had jumped
out at me pretty quick.

626
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,040
Yeah, he was 190 last year.
So a full 10 LB gain.

627
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,680
And what do you think that just
says about his body type now and

628
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,520
what you saw in the field and
now him within extra pounds?

629
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,840
I mean, I think it's
identifying, you know, a

630
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,240
weakness that may he may have
had in addressing that.

631
00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:41,600
I think, you know, he's a guy
that I think needed a little bit

632
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,800
of extra, extra muscle,
especially in those, you know,

633
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,760
press situations.
I think he's going to be asked

634
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:57,920
to do a little bit more tackling
and seek this system versus MARV

635
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,120
system.
So I think there it's a

636
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,400
combination of those things.
Knowing he had to get his body

637
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,720
right for that, and knowing that
just from a pure coverage

638
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:07,520
standpoint, yeah, he he could
probably use a little bit more

639
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,680
strength, you know, handling
guys up front.

640
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,760
Yeah, it's true.
Then again, he was 190 last

641
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,400
year.
You know who jumped out of me?

642
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,160
Besides, I love it.
Who's that?

643
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:24,920
Thomas Williams went from 180 to
190 or 189, but again, 10 lbs

644
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,840
up, he saw significant action
last year out there.

645
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:35,240
So I, I like the look of that.
Josh Clark, I'd I'd like to see

646
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:38,720
him get a little bit more. 185
is not bad.

647
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:43,040
But again, as we talked before
we join tonight.

648
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,680
And Brian, how much weight did
you lose during the season, give

649
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,960
or take?
Usually about 8 to 10 lbs so.

650
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,080
That's one reason when you look
about where a guy's starting

651
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,040
from, why is it important?
Well, in in your and you're not

652
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,520
losing just weight, you're
losing muscle because of how

653
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,480
hard you're working, how hard
you're playing, how much you're

654
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,760
practicing.
So I wish I would have seen Josh

655
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,040
Clark up to 190, but that is
what it is.

656
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,440
I will say this, I don't know if
this jumped out at me, but it

657
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:22,840
was just kind of like Deloach,
Deloach give in the words of

658
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,080
Tally, get that man some food,
get him steak, get him some

659
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,760
chicken, give him give him
anything you can get some weight

660
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:37,720
on DeMar Jamario Deloach because
I mean, he has talent in.

661
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,840
Yeah. 165 you ain't you ain't
playing much.

662
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,200
Yeah.
I mean, I think he's going to

663
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,880
need, he's going to need to see
about another 10 lbs before you

664
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,920
start working him into the
rotation there.

665
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:52,880
He needs at least be up there in
in in Christian Williams range

666
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,400
there.
I know it probably is it isn't

667
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,640
much difference with with
Williams there at six one versus

668
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,080
Deloach at 5-10.
But as far as frame is

669
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,360
concerned.
But yeah, you'd like to see him

670
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:11,800
at least be up there in that one
175 range before you start

671
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,040
trying to work him in pretty,
pretty heavily there.

672
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,280
And I mean, looking at this,
this unit, I mean, we went from

673
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:25,840
a very senior and junior laden
unit to, you know, a lot, a lot,

674
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:32,280
a lot of red shirts, sophomores,
freshmen, a couple juniors, you

675
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,520
know, no, no senior leadership
in that room.

676
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,200
I think that's going to be,
that's going to be a big, a big

677
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,600
role that I think Dante Lovett
is going to have to step into as

678
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,160
being the leader of that unit
from a both a experience

679
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,240
standpoint and just a, a, a
seniority standpoint as well.

680
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,120
Yeah, 100%.
So there's the cornerback room.

681
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,640
I, this is always the fun room.
There are two fun rooms to do

682
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,000
when you're doing 3 technically,
because I consider linebacker.

683
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,240
But let's look at defensive line
room.

684
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,000
Brian, let's let's go down
there.

685
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,480
And you know, this came out a
few days ago.

686
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,800
You looked at it, you digested
it, but of the guys on the

687
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,760
defensive line, whether inside
or out, when you started

688
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,520
looking, where did you go?
Whoa, whoa.

689
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,920
You know, I mean, I went a
couple different places.

690
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,520
Emmett Laws is the one that
jumped out to me in the most.

691
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,560
Thank you.
And you know, I, I, I, I feel,

692
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,520
you know, we've, we've had two
position groups.

693
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,440
I've got 2 Damatha kids in my
list.

694
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,920
I'm, I'm not, I'm not just like,
you know, going after all the

695
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,080
Damatha kids here.
But hey, sometimes in the

696
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:53,080
brakes.
No doubt man, he he came in like

697
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,720
280 last year.
He was too.

698
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,160
It's more impressive that when
he ended high school when he was

699
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:03,320
like 260-5270 and he's damn near
295 now.

700
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:08,880
A he eats and I think I saw one
of the videos from it.

701
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,000
It ain't all fat.
Oh no.

702
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:16,680
It ain't all fat.
So that was really good to see

703
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,560
with him.
I'm I'm, I'm going to stay

704
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,120
inside.
Christian Evans coming in six to

705
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:28,840
290 already as a true freshman,
as a he should be, in the words

706
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,800
of Tally, he should be going to
his senior prom and he is

707
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,120
practicing on a football field
at Virginia Tech.

708
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,120
And he's got a chip.
Because if you all remember, we

709
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,000
kept talking about it, remember
he, he basically won the Under

710
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,160
Armour games up in Maryland, did
not get any love from anybody.

711
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:49,880
And he comes in as an absolute
unit already.

712
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,360
I I don't know if he'll play
this year, but he ain't far from

713
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,880
it.
Let's talk about a couple other

714
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:02,600
guys real quick too, Curtis.
Let's start with James Jankum.

715
00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:08,000
So two things came out of this.
Everybody hates his number and

716
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,800
he is firmly in the defensive
line group, meaning, you know,

717
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,520
he's likely going to be playing
edge in this system, right.

718
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:20,480
So I think we've learned, we've
learned those two things from

719
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,880
from this roster is seeing his
number, hating it and

720
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:28,040
understanding he's going to be
that edge position and not not

721
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,920
that not some sort of linebacker
role that he played at his

722
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,920
previous stop.
So.

723
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,520
No, no, no, definitely,
definitely edge with that.

724
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaking of edges, I I love
seeing burgers put on good

725
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,240
weight.
I love seeing Abby put on the

726
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,640
good weight because they're
going to need it this year.

727
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:50,040
Ace and Stevens as well.
Let's talk about your boy,

728
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:56,360
Jasari Priester.
So, you know, everybody

729
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,960
questioned why did they go get
this kid from down at Hampton?

730
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:04,920
And it was like, because there
were rumors, what, 65 to 6-8?

731
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,520
Basically nobody had him over
300 lbs.

732
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,960
It was like, oh he's like 27280.
And I first thought we heard,

733
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:20,160
you know, that's OK he's young,
get him in the weight room. 6 to

734
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,960
high 312 lbs.
That's a big boy.

735
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:30,840
That is a that that may be maybe
maybe height wise to weight

736
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,480
wise.
I'm trying to go back and I'm

737
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:38,200
going to look at the mole ones
here that might be one of the

738
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,520
bigger and and y'all out there
that can shake my memory.

739
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,320
That might be one of the
biggest.

740
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:51,640
He might be one.
It's.

741
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,360
Certainly the tallest to girth
ratio defensive lineman we've

742
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,680
had.
Ever.

743
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,080
Now, And, and it's funny, like
you see him at that weight, you

744
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,600
got a guy like Andrew Hanchuck
coming over playing offensive

745
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,800
line, same height and 30 lbs
lighter.

746
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,160
That's that's, that's to be,
that's wild.

747
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,360
And I mean, it sounds like the
guy can move pretty well too.

748
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:18,720
I don't know if he's still
moving at 312, like he was

749
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:23,000
moving at, you know, the two
8290 range that they had him at

750
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,200
coming over.
But yeah, I mean, that's that's

751
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,280
about 20 lbs heavier than I was
expecting him to come in at so.

752
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,120
So it's, it's kind of wild and
I'm, I'm like, I'm, I'm trying

753
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,160
to go to the archives here.
And I mean, we'll, we'll take

754
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,560
the grain of salt that, you
know, these are the official

755
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,680
heights and weights.
I'm, I'm sure this is not a

756
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,440
1000% accurate height and
weight.

757
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,960
Listen, but I mean, this, this
is what's being put out there.

758
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,480
This is what's being put in the
program.

759
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,640
So.
All right, you know who it was.

760
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,160
Who's that?
Settle was pretty close to that.

761
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:05,400
Settle's like 63, like 3-15 and
we know what Tim did.

762
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,800
Tim was for the three years he
was here, he was unbelievable.

763
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,400
But that is a lot of man.
And if we're talking about we

764
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,480
need A1 or A0, if he can get the
right leverage you, you might

765
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:22,000
have your nose to go true with
the true three man front.

766
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:28,360
Let's hit a couple other guys
here on the defensive line 1 and

767
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:33,680
I don't know if I'm
underwhelmed, but Arias Nash

768
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,680
under 280 lbs.
I know he's a three tech.

769
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,360
I know that's not his game, but
did you want to see a little

770
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,960
more from him or do you feel
like you know what that he

771
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,040
played that at D2.
He played against Alabama at

772
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,920
that with Mercer.
He he cut through those guys or

773
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,480
is or do you feel like he's got
his role?

774
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:55,480
He's not.
He doesn't need to gain weight.

775
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,520
This is his role.
So I, I, I want to see how we're

776
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:06,280
deploying him, you know, is, is
he going to be a frontline

777
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,840
player in every formation that
we have?

778
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,920
If he if he's going to be that
four eye and kind of move, you

779
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,240
know, potentially a little bit
wider when we go into an odd

780
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:23,840
front, then you know, I think
that's going to be plenty

781
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:28,600
sufficient in most cases.
Yeah, there might be a couple a

782
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,080
couple teams that are, you know,
power run focus that might have

783
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:35,440
a little something to say about
that.

784
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:42,920
But for most, most of our roster
is is more spread oriented and

785
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,320
and less smashed mouth.
I don't think he's going to have

786
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:47,880
a problem playing the four eye
at that.

787
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,240
Got it, got it.
All right, Anybody else on the

788
00:50:56,240 --> 00:51:00,280
defensive line, I mean, you got
bail like 61235, but I mean

789
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,480
we've seen undersized defensive
lineman and edge guys before.

790
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,240
So that's not a like.
Yeah, that's still not, that's

791
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,520
still not super undersized.
Obviously John comes probably a

792
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,160
little bit a little bit heavier
there.

793
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:14,640
He's at 258 playing it, you
know, a little bit taller there.

794
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,280
But I think those probably are
going to be your, your, your two

795
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:24,800
primary edge guys with.
Stevens Abbey and Burgos.

796
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,320
Exactly.
Those guys are going to be

797
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,320
mixing in there.
I'm sure.

798
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,600
I'm sure Burgos is going to get
kind of that first, you know,

799
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,280
first run along with with Bell
and Jonka as far as like who's

800
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:39,480
going to be first guys out there
and then the other guys are

801
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,280
going to going to kind of be
fighting for the for the second

802
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:48,600
unit. 100% So again, again, I
think overall in a good spot,

803
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,600
defensive line was there is
nothing like jumping up that

804
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,160
scares me.
That says, OK, we are

805
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,200
significantly undersized here.
This is going to be a problem

806
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:02,240
for power run teams.
So we'll roll on linebacker

807
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:03,720
room.
Linebacker room is always a

808
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,160
weird one.
We're skipping kickers.

809
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,320
You mean go kickers?
Let's see.

810
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,280
No, I don't.
Kallo lost a pound.

811
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,800
All right.
There.

812
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:20,200
We go He went from 200 to 199.
He had a he had a goal, got more

813
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,680
toned.
That's right, That's right.

814
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,040
It was cut season.
Yeah, linebacker room, obviously

815
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,480
the way it's looking, Woodson,
Keller's probably going to be

816
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,360
given the jobs.
Woodson up a little bit from

817
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,200
last year, Keller about the
same.

818
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,760
But to me, let's look.
So fast, my friend.

819
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,000
What's that?
I like Woodson blocked in there.

820
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,120
We'll we'll see about Keller.
Hey, where is it?

821
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,200
Hold on, wait a second.
There was a good one in the chat

822
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,120
a little while ago.
Got to find it.

823
00:52:52,120 --> 00:53:00,320
Got to find it.
That's a good one, Josh.

824
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,920
That's a good one.
Well, let's be realistic.

825
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,920
I don't think they're going to
be putting Jordan Bay with what?

826
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,200
What happened?
He's obviously, he's obviously

827
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:18,760
in the doghouse right now, But
Jordan Bass, I mean, dude, he's

828
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,440
205.
I don't think he can play him at

829
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,000
the linebacker position this
year.

830
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,120
Now, luckily, he's a true
junior, so you have a red shirt

831
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:32,960
to burn.
So that's the question is do do

832
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,360
you, do you end up throwing a
red shirt on him?

833
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,160
Is a guy like Caleb Spencer
going to work in there?

834
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,240
Yeah.
There, there's talk of him

835
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:44,480
moving to Mike.
There's talk of him, you know,

836
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,800
kind of playing both of the
linebacker positions there.

837
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,640
It you know, it sounds like he's
moving fully away from. *.

838
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:57,000
A star safety type role.
This is going to very much be a

839
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:02,120
linebacker position for him.
So I'm curious to see how that

840
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,000
shakes out.
Obviously we know Gabe Williams

841
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:09,680
working back from injury.
You know, numbers there don't

842
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,080
shock me too much because he
wasn't able to do anything this

843
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,080
offseason.
No, not, no chance to gain.

844
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:21,240
So Clatterbaugh coming in at
62243 is, is is nice and what

845
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:23,560
you like to see?
Well, as long as it ain't fat,

846
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,760
but you know 243, you can trim
10 lbs of that.

847
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,800
Nice.
Brian, you, you said something

848
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,720
else.
McDonald Brothers man.

849
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,080
Tough to believe, right?
Yeah, we got the McDonnell

850
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,480
brothers are now red shirt
juniors, sorry, red shirt

851
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,800
seniors.
And it seems like like just so

852
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,240
when we when we started this,
this whole this whole shebang,

853
00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:49,800
you know, they they that was
their that was their class, that

854
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,480
that was their recruiting class
coming out.

855
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:58,040
So it's kind of it's wild that
in in the ride so far, we've,

856
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,000
you know, we, we've lived
through the McDonald cycle and

857
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,640
we're, we're about to, you know,
fully cycle through the McDonald

858
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,280
twins.
So shout out to them, shout out

859
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,640
to them.
Not really seeing the field that

860
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:11,760
much last year.
I don't know.

861
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,880
You know, that was a, that was a
big shift from from 23 to 24

862
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,320
with, you know, them kind of
being very, very heavy in the

863
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:26,200
rotation, you know, especially,
you know, looking at which one

864
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,000
is it.
Jayden.

865
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,200
Jayden's a linebacker.
Jayden.

866
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,560
Yeah.
Jayden.

867
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,560
Jayden had the heavy rotation at
linebacker, yeah.

868
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:42,000
So it was funny seeing him kind
of really fall out of favor in

869
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,520
that.
Rotation, yeah.

870
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,040
So, you know, linebacker room,
some good games.

871
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,800
I mean, I think over the last
few years we had not seen

872
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,560
anything.
Nobody deficient.

873
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,520
And I mean, I think with Jordan
Bass right now with everything

874
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:02,480
going on, hold on, you can't say
that Josh until he plays depends

875
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,080
on what he is.
And you know what, there were

876
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:09,920
times the last two years defense
would have been a hell of a lot

877
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,280
better with a Dax type who would
have been getting to the right

878
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,800
spot, would have prevented a lot
of big ass touchdowns.

879
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,920
Even if it would have been maybe
a second late, at least

880
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,000
something would have happened.
I always say that.

881
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,040
All right, Brian, anything on
the long snappers as we move

882
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,600
down here?
No.

883
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:37,760
OK, the big one offensive line,
I know.

884
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,320
You know, again, do you take
them with a grain of salt?

885
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,080
Yes.
But you know, when they put

886
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:51,120
somebody like Brody at 67332, I
don't think he's 285 at all.

887
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,200
And just looking at some
pictures, he ain't 285.

888
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:55,440
What?
So what are the what are the

889
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,400
gains for Brody?
What was he last year?

890
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:04,600
Brody Gaines would have been.
Got to find the name.

891
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:12,560
Got to find the name.
Only 5 lbs.

892
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,360
He was 327 last year.
OK, All right.

893
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,240
So I mean progress.
Progress getting bigger, getting

894
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,320
stronger, hopefully.
I like, I like seeing Tomas

895
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:30,480
Remat come in at 66317.
I, I think if not initially,

896
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:35,360
maybe eventually he's going to
be, you know, your, your, your,

897
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,160
your left tackle.
Yeah, he could, he could end up

898
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,920
slide into guard.
He played guard a lot at West

899
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,720
Virginia.
He's a swing guy that can play

900
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:48,760
both positions.
You know, when I when I look at

901
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,680
the tape, I like Johnny Garrett
a whole lot more right tackle

902
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,560
than I do left tackle.
Oh, 100%.

903
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:02,800
So if, if that's, if that's what
we're operating under, then I'm

904
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:08,760
hoping that Remack can pull out
a yeah, a, a starting role there

905
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,280
at left tackle, but.
Well, that's that's.

906
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:12,600
Good.
You know, in in you're looking

907
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:17,160
at this group.
I still feel better even losing

908
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,000
2 guys that we thought would
would be starters on this.

909
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,520
I still feel better about with
what we got in the portal,

910
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:29,120
better about this unit overall
than I felt about last.

911
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:33,000
Year's unit 100%.
We did lose.

912
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:38,200
There's not a glaring hole.
The The glaring hole is not

913
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:42,640
there anymore.
We know who the glaring hole is.

914
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,080
We don't need to say his name.
The glaring hole is not there

915
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:46,480
anymore.
No.

916
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,440
But the question is can someone
fill that glaring hole and not

917
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:54,760
become the glaring hole?
And I think overall would just

918
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,360
again with the majority of these
guys would not.

919
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,240
I'm sure we're saying glaring,
not glory, glaring coal.

920
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:03,840
Who put glory?
I said.

921
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,680
Glare, I said.
Glory.

922
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,480
All right.
But I think overall, you just

923
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,360
look at the the room in general,
it's it's built.

924
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:14,640
It's you're not sitting out
here.

925
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,360
Again.
There were just, I felt like for

926
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,000
years it was just like, we are
so fucking undersized.

927
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,280
Yeah, this isn't even funny.
But I don't feel that way

928
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,520
anymore.
And I think when we come back in

929
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,080
a couple weeks, Brian,
definitely we want to hammer

930
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:36,760
what we think the best and the
most optimal line is going to

931
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,240
be.
Yeah, Staller, it's huge.

932
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,520
Now, how quick can he take a
step?

933
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:48,240
Because physical wise, he is a
monster with decent feet, right?

934
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,520
Brian Carter Staller had decent
feet.

935
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,400
He's not.
He's not tripping over himself

936
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,960
yet, but I.
Mean so he looked a lot.

937
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,080
So thinking about big guys that
are coming out, he looked a

938
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,040
whole lot better than Brody did
coming out.

939
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,640
Yeah, yeah, and there was a
reason he was a little bit

940
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,360
higher rated.
All righty, let's go to the

941
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,200
quarterback room because you you
like you, you texted me this

942
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,160
like right off the bat.
You like look at that, Curtis,

943
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,760
and I'm like pulling it up.
What was it, Brian?

944
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,640
What did you text me that day?
I.

945
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,760
Mean we got we we got pop over 2
bills.

946
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,480
At 5:11.
At 2:00. 11-2 Bills, baby.

947
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:33,120
You know, if if the concern is
about his his frame, he's

948
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,520
starting to fill that out a
little bit.

949
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,360
He is doing what we said he
needed to do.

950
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,320
He had to do that.
He had to fill out.

951
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:46,840
He could not stick in that 185
to 190 range with how any of

952
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,480
these offenses are going to go
in with what he has to do.

953
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,360
And, and you love seeing it
because it tells you from my

954
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:57,480
aspect is he knew it.
He knew he needed to get gains.

955
01:00:57,480 --> 01:00:58,880
He needed to get strong in the
weight room.

956
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,200
You need to put on those pounds
and he did it, which to me says

957
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:05,360
there's that work ethic there.
He wants it.

958
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,560
He effectively is the backup
quarterback.

959
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,480
There is no if ands or buts
about it.

960
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,440
So we'll see how it goes.
We'll see how he looks in

961
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:19,000
spring.
Other than the quarterback room,

962
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,960
I think brand coming in really
big, really big.

963
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,200
I I if you get to go to the
spring game, see if you can get

964
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,440
12 and 18 near each other and
try to snap a picture of it.

965
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,040
Brian between OK, here's base
guys being classified as

966
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:39,160
6211951210 probably be a little
difference up in here.

967
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,600
Yeah.
And I mean, you know, when when

968
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,800
we talked about it, we were
comparing Ryan and Brand.

969
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:51,160
I mean, we kind of said, OK,
well, Ryan is definitely like a

970
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,840
bigger, taller pop coming out,
right.

971
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,440
Yeah, like that.
That's kind of just looking at

972
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,160
the way they played, looking at
everything a little bit more

973
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,920
polished, maybe throwing the
ball than than Pop was initially

974
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,640
coming out.
But you know, very similar style

975
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:12,480
and, and overall frame.
If not, you know, looking at the

976
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,920
the the weight itself.
But yeah, Ajaj is a big dude

977
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:23,560
coming in 62210.
I mean, you can see him very

978
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,600
much in the same mold of of
Kyron as far as how if, if, if

979
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,840
he fills out some more being in
that 220-5230, you know, Kyron

980
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,440
up at at 2:35 on his own right
there.

981
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:38,040
So you can see him definitely
filling out to that level as he

982
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:39,600
kind of progresses through his
career.

983
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:44,040
Yep, 100 percent, 100%.
All right, let's go down to

984
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,240
running backs, a room that is
absolutely banged up right now.

985
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:49,360
We know Overton's out for the
spring.

986
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,400
We know the kid from Bowling
Green won't be down until

987
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,960
summer.
I think actually, I think that's

988
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,880
as silly as it sounds like I'm
OK with that because the his

989
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,560
style and how he ran last year.
Like I don't think he needs

990
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,640
spring.
Just just get him into fall camp

991
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:08,800
and then turn him loose during
the season.

992
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,080
But.
Well, the thing that sucks is

993
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:14,600
not getting him in the I think
the the weight program with the

994
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:18,760
team is the bigger loss than
necessarily the spring practice.

995
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,360
True, but I mean, let me let me
do a little something here.

996
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,640
Let let me let me pivot back
that in a second.

997
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:29,240
But take a look there, Brian,
and just look at the running

998
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:34,400
backroom.
I mean, does anything worry you?

999
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,440
Like it seems like everybody's
at a good weight.

1000
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:42,480
You got Coney, Mason, Bennett,
Hawkins along with the kid from

1001
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:48,880
Bowling Green coming out.
Does anything anything stand out

1002
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:53,760
to you?
I wasn't expecting to see

1003
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:58,280
Hawkins at 2:19.
Yeah, 10 LB gain from where he

1004
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,400
was at D2 last year.
Yeah.

1005
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:03,760
So I, I think that's, you know,
that bodes well for his

1006
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:10,400
transition to this level, you
know, playing at 511, still

1007
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,600
being more of a, you know, pass
catching threat than I think

1008
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,640
we'll see from Terry and Stewart
when he comes in.

1009
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,040
So I'm excited to see what he's
doing.

1010
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,960
He's apparently probably going
to get a a decent amount of run

1011
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:27,200
in the in the spring I would
imagine with everyone banged up.

1012
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,880
Well, well, Coney, well, you
know, you heard the thing about

1013
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,520
Coney being out there grinding
through and I'm assuming if he's

1014
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,920
practiced what he's practicing,
I'm assuming Nick's for Coney,

1015
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,760
but he will be important.
By the way, Stewart 5 down to 20

1016
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:48,360
last year Bowling Green.
So I, I think, I think again, I

1017
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,920
think he's fine.
I mean, you know, why isn't he

1018
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,680
here?
I think the, the story is he's

1019
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,200
got a class, he's got a
complete.

1020
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,000
But again, I nothing has jumped
out.

1021
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:03,760
And I think we've said that a
couple times, right?

1022
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,800
And we've got a couple more
rooms just to kind of overall

1023
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:09,840
look at.
But nothing jumps out as saying,

1024
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,480
are we significantly worse than
where we were last year.

1025
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:20,200
And in some areas like offensive
line, probably better than we

1026
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,320
were last year.
Linebacker room with the

1027
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,440
emergence of Caleb Woodson,
probably a little bit better

1028
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,640
than we were last year.
So.

1029
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,720
I mean, looking at offensive
line, like we don't have anyone

1030
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,520
that I think is as good as
chaplain, but I think no, in

1031
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:42,920
aggregate we're a lot better.
The the the worst current and

1032
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,360
offensive lineman that's going
to get playing time is better

1033
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,640
than what we had last year.
Yep.

1034
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,400
Robbie hit up about Mason.
I was going to mention that

1035
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:55,040
before we rolled on, but Tyler
Mason from down in Mount Airy,

1036
01:05:55,040 --> 01:06:01,480
NC, both up 200, came in at 198.
So he is down with that kind of

1037
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,600
the level.
Like OK, you can play a full

1038
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,480
season if we need you.
Your body is ready for it.

1039
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,880
Safety room I think is going to
be, we can look at them.

1040
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:15,240
I think literally, Brian, if we
look at everybody that's in the

1041
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:20,360
safety room, their heights,
weights, it's all fine, fine.

1042
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,960
Safety is going to be more
interesting to probably talk

1043
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:28,760
about in a couple weeks where
we're going to try to throw

1044
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:30,600
darts at where people are going
to play.

1045
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,200
And then when we actually see
the game, because as you look

1046
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:37,880
through that, I mean, you know,
shortest guy's 511, lightest

1047
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:44,880
guy's 185 at safeties, heaviest
guys two O 5.

1048
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:50,360
And the guy that's 185 is kind
of a guy that played a lot of

1049
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,560
nickel in corner.
So makes sense, right?

1050
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:57,080
Yeah.
Again, I think that room, once

1051
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,840
we see probably Brian, as you're
sitting live at Lane, you know,

1052
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,800
writing your numbers out,
figuring out where Koval is,

1053
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:08,760
where's Flowers is, where's
Ellis, where's Cash, that's kind

1054
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,440
of going to be the interesting
piece because of those four guys

1055
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,840
that came in.
Flowers does have one year of

1056
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:20,240
eligibility left.
Is that going to go as a, is

1057
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,160
that going to be a deterrent
factor of who plays where?

1058
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,920
We don't know.
We feel very confident about

1059
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:28,720
Reddish.
We'll talk about that in a few

1060
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,320
weeks.
Tight end room?

1061
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:41,840
Yeah, Yep, they're there.
Everybody stayed healthy.

1062
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,120
Everybody stayed healthy.
You know, we're not really

1063
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:49,360
adding anyone to the room in
theory.

1064
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:55,000
So this room kind of is mostly
stagnant.

1065
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:59,080
You know, I think you feel
really good about Benji.

1066
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:03,880
You feel pretty good about HSG
and Zeke.

1067
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,600
I think everybody else is a big
question mark and I don't think

1068
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:11,280
they need to be anything more
than that this year.

1069
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,000
I think that's going to be the
guys that you're leaning on in

1070
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,640
this offense this year. 100% All
right, last position group here

1071
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:22,120
before we wrap up the night.
That's the wide receiver group.

1072
01:08:22,680 --> 01:08:26,600
And and let's just you talked
about what he can be used in

1073
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,200
man, if he ain't built like Devo
Samuel was when he was down in

1074
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,840
South Carolina.
Give me some.

1075
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,880
Give me some stats on Cam
Selden.

1076
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:40,439
Brian, All right, Cam Selden.
Let's find Cam Selden.

1077
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:49,080
He is 6/1, 2:11, 61211.
Again, we talked about the

1078
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,000
running back bills.
We just kind of came from that

1079
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,800
area and you and you hear that
and you're like, all right,

1080
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,600
yeah.
That that that's a running back

1081
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,640
and that's a wide receiver
that's going to be playing like

1082
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:05,160
a running back.
And I'm interested to see see

1083
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,720
him in action because he's the
guy that I think excited me the

1084
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,200
most.
Even though he's a guy that I

1085
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,560
think there's still a lot of
question marks on because of the

1086
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:17,399
position change that you know,
it's it's going to it's going to

1087
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:21,560
be it's going to be interesting
to see how we deploy him.

1088
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:25,040
Is he going to be a guy that's
going to do some stuff out of

1089
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,840
the backfield occasionally?
Probably.

1090
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:30,680
But I think he's really going to
be that guy that you want to get

1091
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,200
the ball in their hands in that
you know that like I said

1092
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:37,359
earlier, that 3 to 8 yard range
and just let them be a be a guy

1093
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:40,439
in space.
Well, first of all, Devo Samuel

1094
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:45,800
senior year 6 foot 210.
That's, and if you look at him

1095
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,680
it the, the build is there.
I think Brian, what excites me

1096
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,359
about Selden so much again and
looking at some of Montgomery's

1097
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:58,520
game film, it's those 3 yard
drags, it's those flat routes.

1098
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:07,200
Because his build you're if, if
you were going to say, you know,

1099
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:09,680
we're going to put a corner back
on him, it will have to be your

1100
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,280
best tackling corner.
It will have to be your most

1101
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:16,600
physical corner, but there are
going to be some corners, in my

1102
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:18,520
opinion, that are not going to
tackle him.

1103
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,680
I just believe that they're not
going to be able to tackle him.

1104
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,800
And then it becomes there's your
nightmare mismatch.

1105
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,520
You know what, we're going to
throw the safety on.

1106
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:27,840
We're going to put a linebacker
on.

1107
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:33,600
And OK, we know he was where he
came out in high school.

1108
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,120
He was an athlete.
He was an elite athlete.

1109
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,040
It's why he got so highly
recruited.

1110
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:41,440
It's why he got there because he
does have that explosion.

1111
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,920
It just it just pops.
And if they deploy him right,

1112
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:50,480
especially having Donovan Green,
you know, kind of that elder

1113
01:10:50,480 --> 01:10:52,720
statesman who is kind of the
route technician.

1114
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,720
And then the way Aiden Green is
explained with his explosion.

1115
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,320
If not, not even counting some
of the other guys on here like

1116
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,120
Chan's, you know, Brooke Keelan.
Excuse me?

1117
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:04,320
Don't get in trouble with
anybody.

1118
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,960
Keelan Adams.
Yeah, I ain't crazy.

1119
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,280
There is a chance I meet his
Mama one day.

1120
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,520
I don't want to get popped up.
That's right.

1121
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:12,960
That's right.
You got, you got to keep it,

1122
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,280
right.
Yeah.

1123
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:19,040
And and it's going to be I'm I'm
excited to see what how Keelan

1124
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:21,160
and Chan's work into this
rotation.

1125
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,240
I mean, obviously know Aiden is
kind of the established guy

1126
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,400
here.
From a just experience with this

1127
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:32,680
group perspective, we know
Donovan Green is bringing

1128
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:37,280
probably the most overall
experience to the room, you

1129
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:42,280
know, new, new due to this team.
But we we have kind of the law

1130
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,160
firm of Green and green out
there.

1131
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:48,240
Wide receiver.
I'm going to be I'm I'm going to

1132
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,000
have to make a poster or
something like that at some

1133
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,880
point when we when we go to a
game this year for that one.

1134
01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:00,960
I'm I'm interested.
I I think that this wide

1135
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,600
receiver room, I think I think
this is we're we're kind of

1136
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,560
looking at the same thing that
we were talking about in the

1137
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,320
offensive line room.
You know, once everybody gets

1138
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:14,360
healthy is that, you know, in
aggregate, I think this wide

1139
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:18,240
receiver room could be better
than the group we had last year,

1140
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,520
even if you don't have the
highest of highs that you had

1141
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:29,360
with the Jalen Lane.
Yeah, so.

1142
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,760
It's a it's interesting.
I think overall from that game

1143
01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:39,520
perspective, nothing stands out.
You don't feel like we're

1144
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:41,560
undersized anywhere.
You don't feel like we're going

1145
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:48,600
to give up physicality anywhere.
So not only shout out to what's

1146
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:52,360
going on with Ferg, but also
with the prior staff getting us

1147
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:57,560
back on track.
So again, these Galt who went to

1148
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:02,000
Marshall, he may not have had
everything locked down, but as

1149
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,280
far as getting guys to optimal
weights, getting them to optimal

1150
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,800
strength, I think he got us
there.

1151
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,400
I think it's the other piece,
the.

1152
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,400
Conditioning piece was where
things kind of fell off the.

1153
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:18,280
Exactly, exactly.
And and to me, you think about

1154
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,920
Jared Ferguson playing fullback.
He was the prototypical fullback

1155
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:28,600
build and he had the endurance.
So yeah, Brian, let's hit these

1156
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,960
real quick.
Basketball seasons effectively

1157
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:34,600
over for the Hokies with the
women losing earlier this week.

1158
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:38,760
Men obviously didn't even make a
tournament portal going crazy.

1159
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:41,840
And then I didn't read all
going.

1160
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,360
Legit crazy like three times the
entries compared to last year.

1161
01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:51,400
Sane insanity and obviously the
Hokies on a better footing or

1162
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,880
NIL this year.
The Whit Babcock statement that

1163
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,520
I read from Andy Bitter just
made me go.

1164
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,440
Which one?
Which one?

1165
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,920
The the one about we didn't
really anticipate the basketball

1166
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,680
market to be like that.
What did you think it was going

1167
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,200
to be?
Everybody's going to spend

1168
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,720
$100,000 a player.
They took took a shot at the at

1169
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,960
the folks on on Twitter as well.
Like are you get your news from

1170
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,280
Twitter If you think that we
stole money from basketball to

1171
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:23,520
give it to football, I, I heard
that places that weren't

1172
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:28,520
Twitter, I'll just say that much
and we'll move along.

1173
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,400
I don't think we stole.
I think funds were allocated

1174
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,200
differently.
Because you misread the room.

1175
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,400
Yeah, look at Jim.
Jim, we had heard from you all

1176
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:39,880
night.
And Jim, it's a banger at the

1177
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:43,480
end. 70% fire.
So I mean it sounds like of of

1178
01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:47,480
the due allocation 75% is going
to football.

1179
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,520
Yep.
So it's it's basically mirroring

1180
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,440
the percentages that the
settlement were in terms of the

1181
01:14:54,440 --> 01:14:59,200
yearly allocation from the the
general fund.

1182
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:04,080
So.
Yeah, 75% to football, was it.

1183
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,440
15% to men's basketball is it?
Am I right?

1184
01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:10,360
That sounds right.
I'd I'd have to pull it up

1185
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:12,320
again.
I was looking at the bidder

1186
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:15,000
tweet earlier.
Well, that, that's, that's over

1187
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,480
3 million just for basketball,
not counting probably some other

1188
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:20,640
things, not counting house
settlement stuff.

1189
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,320
I'm assuming basketball's
probably going to be what, five

1190
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:27,560
and a half, 6 1/2 donate.
I'm and I'm talking guys who are

1191
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,960
going to be giving money towards
NIL specifically for foot for

1192
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,560
basketball.
Some a direct, yeah.

1193
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,760
Direct, yeah.
Direct and you should be able to

1194
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,880
put a decent Ross together and,
and if some are going to go

1195
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:44,040
crazy, absolutely some are going
to go absolutely crazy and, and

1196
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:48,800
that is what it is.
But with $6 million to fund a

1197
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,720
basketball team of 12, you
should be able to get a couple

1198
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:57,040
really good players.
Just don't go after guys that

1199
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:01,680
you know, could potentially be
fully suspended for, you know.

1200
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,360
Betting on games that's better
vetting, please.

1201
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:08,760
Better betting, please.
I think we've.

1202
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,080
Had what, three years in a row
where we've had a player, a

1203
01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:20,720
guard, a, a, a probably starting
guard that played minimal or

1204
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:26,360
none for this basketball team,
that's three years in a row.

1205
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,240
And I mean, you can say what you
want to say is that the

1206
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,680
difference between a 13 and 19
team and a 19 and 13 team?

1207
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:38,000
Maybe, maybe not, I don't know.
But you you never know.

1208
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:40,520
One last piece before we close
it up.

1209
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,120
Wrestling finishes 11th at the
nationals.

1210
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,800
I only saw the I I never saw
they never replayed it and I

1211
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:54,000
never a chance to see it.
But from everyone that I've seen

1212
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,920
Twitter speaking with a couple
other people, Caleb Pinson got

1213
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,680
completely robbed because his
takedown was a takedown.

1214
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:04,320
And even though the brick was
thrown, it should have never

1215
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:08,000
been overturned to begin with.
It should have been 31 and he

1216
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:09,680
should be a two time national
champion.

1217
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:15,480
So but wrestling was younger
this year.

1218
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,360
You know, Caleb's back next
year, Eddie Ventriska's back

1219
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,040
next year, Mcdougal's back next
year.

1220
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,080
He got like a Jimmy Mullen who's
going to be back next year.

1221
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,160
I'll be interested to see
wrestling next year because

1222
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,200
where they finished this year,
it was supposed to be a down

1223
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:35,280
year.
It was, you know, you don't use

1224
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:36,160
it.
You don't lose a guy like

1225
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,200
Michael Lewis and a few of the
other guys from the last few

1226
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,320
years and have a lot of young
guys come on.

1227
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:45,240
But I, I, I think the
potential's there.

1228
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,480
And I'm not saying national
championship, I'm not crazy, but

1229
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:51,120
I think to get individual
national championships is the

1230
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,920
possibility is there.
And I think to get back in the

1231
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,240
top five is definitely a
possibility.

1232
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:01,160
I mean, I could go through the
points, but I, I do think, and

1233
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,720
if anybody knows the exact way,
I think if Caleb had won, we

1234
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,280
probably would have been like
7th, not 11th in the final

1235
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:11,200
standings just because of the
difference between that for the

1236
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,960
1st and 2nd.
Quote me if I'm wrong, but

1237
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,480
anything else you need to unload
man before we hop off here.

1238
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,880
No, I'm glad we got that, that,
that bitter stuff in there.

1239
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:27,000
Well, on, on, on wit because
that, that's something that I

1240
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,360
saw pop through just before we,
we, we punched it and we hadn't

1241
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:33,760
really talked about really
diving into that, but I'm glad

1242
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,200
we got there because.
I'm glad we got a shot in just.

1243
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:38,240
Yeah.
Yeah.

1244
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:39,840
Because I haven't had a chance
to read it all.

1245
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:42,400
I've been busy as hell this
afternoon.

1246
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,080
I know you.
You were sitting at a tennis

1247
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:48,640
match for 3 1/2 hours.
He did 3 1/2 hours.

1248
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,160
He did.
Well he did.

1249
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:51,880
It was about three.
It was about 3 hours.

1250
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:54,600
Yeah, just sitting there,
sitting there.

1251
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,520
So it's all good supporting our
kids.

1252
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,080
All right.
Anything breaking on the

1253
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:04,120
Twittersphere?
Not much, man.

1254
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,720
I think, I think we're we're
good and there's a lot of a lot

1255
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:12,360
of discussion around the 70%
below Clemson thing.

1256
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:15,880
I know, I know, Jim threw that
that in there that I think that

1257
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,080
was the thing that is stood out
to folks the most is that we

1258
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:24,000
were that fucking far behind
Clemson in NIL for basketball.

1259
01:19:25,480 --> 01:19:29,920
Just shows you this, this is
what I'll say.

1260
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:35,360
And if you can agree or
disagree, there are certain

1261
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:40,600
people that are in athletic
departments in this era, they're

1262
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,400
never going to be a DS.
And then there are certain

1263
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:47,240
people that are.
And you at Virginia Tech, you've

1264
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:50,000
got to find the person who
understands that concept better

1265
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,040
than anybody when the next hire
is made, because in my opinion,

1266
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:58,080
the next hire is probably going
to be made within the next 24

1267
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,040
months.
And I think, I think it's two

1268
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:04,000
fronts too, because I think you
got to you got to have somebody

1269
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:09,320
that is not only well attuned
with what NIL is, but I think

1270
01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:13,000
you need to have somebody that's
a little bit more that does a

1271
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:20,280
better job with engaging the
alumni and the donor base.

1272
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:26,040
Better than Wit in the sports
that count, I think.

1273
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,800
I think Wit does a pretty good
job in in some areas, but I

1274
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:38,160
think his personality doesn't
always inspire confidence and I

1275
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:42,360
think that can trickle down into
other areas.

1276
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,680
Not just OK fans.
Fans don't like him because he's

1277
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:50,560
bristly or he, he, he doesn't
not the most personal person

1278
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:54,320
when you, when you have a, an
interview style with him.

1279
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,720
I think he's a lot.
He seems to be more relaxed in a

1280
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:03,160
conversational tone, but he
doesn't do well in kind of a, if

1281
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,200
the format is, is, is more
formal.

1282
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,680
He, his personality gets lost
somewhere in the shuffle there.

1283
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:13,600
And I, I think, you know, that
that can turn some folks off a

1284
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,800
lot of times too.
So, yeah, there's, there's a lot

1285
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,760
of things that I think we could
point to and say, you know,

1286
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,920
some, some of this was already
endemic here at Virginia Tech

1287
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,880
before that.
And then some of that is Wit has

1288
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:32,880
his fingers all over it.
Yep, and you can't do that.

1289
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:36,200
You cannot do that.
So with that being said, let's

1290
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,040
wrap up this episode of the
Boundary Corner podcast brought

1291
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,600
to you by Counts Family
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1292
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,400
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I'm Brian Siegler.

1293
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,000
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1294
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,960
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1295
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:52,840
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1296
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1298
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:00,720
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1299
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,120
is currently in the wonderful
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1300
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,000
Joker play.
The guy been sending us pics all

1301
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,760
night.
He was so hyped to be out there.

1302
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,720
And he was at Red Rock
Amphitheatre this morning

1303
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,120
watching the sunrise.
That was that was a gorgeous

1304
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:16,960
photo since this morning.
Pretty awesome man.

1305
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,640
He plays us in he plays us out.
Check his website

1306
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,720
outjasonlawmusic.com.
You can link to his lot where

1307
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,440
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1308
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1309
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,720
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1310
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,840
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1311
01:22:35,840 --> 01:23:25,480
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