This week your boys get dialed in for Saturday's Spring Game. This is Franklin's first opportunity to show the fan base what this team is building towards in 2026. We go around the horn to talk about the three things we're looking for during the game on Saturday. The team also discusses the movement in leadership at the university and athletic department level heading into a pivotal season for the Hokies.

Show Notes
Transcript

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And welcome back to the Boundary
Corner Podcast along with my

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partners, Brian Siegler and
hopefully Jonathan Talley.

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I'm Curtis Wilson.
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Moments on the Maury What's up?
We got here.

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We got.
Here.

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It's been too long.
It's been too long since all

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three of us were here.
Been like a month.

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Tally.
Man oh man, Tally is going

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freeze, unfreeze, freeze,
unfreeze.

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That Alabama Internet man.
Starlink, can you hear us?

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Tally, here's now.
You moving?

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Oh, he jumped off.
Tally will be back momentarily

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as he as he takes a baseball bat
to the Wi-Fi.

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Good to have him back as the
struggles may be.

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Brian, just good to be back
doing this in general.

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Get him back up here.
You hear us now.

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Are you, are you, are we getting
there?

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Thanks.
So I hope so all.

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Right, because you.
Can hear you.

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Can you hear us?
We'll think we're good.

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You hear us?
Yeah, I can hear you all.

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Right, Kylie?
What's been up, man?

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I can see Curtis's cool hat.
Softball dad baseball season

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man.
Knee deep in baseball season and

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watching the Virginia Tech
Hokies get a lot out of

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defensive lineman.
You damn right, multiple

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defensive lineman.
Go in and we'll see how it goes.

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But tally is 100% right.
A lot of defensive lineman

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coming on the boat in the last
few days.

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We will hit that in just a few
minutes here with the couple of

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the OR the most recent and one
potential tomorrow.

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We'll talk about that.
But you know we got a few other

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things done low.
We are going to do a little

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spring game preview kind of
things that we're looking

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forward to looking at as likely
me and Tally watching on a

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CCXNX.
Is that where it's going to be

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3?
Is that what I saw earlier?

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ACC and extra Yeah.
Going to be on at 3:00 so you

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can see the game live I think.
I think I read it's going to be

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the hokey vision production.
So have that which will, but at

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least you get to see it.
We're going to get to that.

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We kind of got three things.
We're pointing out what we're

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looking for during the game.
But obviously some things have

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changed inside of Hokie Nation
since we last came last week.

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And the biggest is or a couple
of the big ones are President

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Tim Sands is going to be set to
retire.

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I am assuming it's going to be
in the next six months after 12

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years with the university.
Ron.

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Are we ready to?
Are we ready to talk about it a

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little bit?
Ready.

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To talk about a.
Little bit, I mean, I think this

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is something that folks knew was
going to probably come down in

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the next couple years.
I think, you know, we probably

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saw this coming a little bit
sooner than I think most people

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expected with with San stepping
down over the coming, you know,

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whatever six months as they try
to, you know, approach a

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successor and and get that in
place.

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It's it's really interesting
because, you know, as all of

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this is coming out, you know,
Franklin's talking with people

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about institutional alignment
and all of a sudden you're like,

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all right, the president's out.
And for all that Tim Sands has

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done good or I'll, he certainly
wasn't someone that was football

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friendly.
In this modern era, sports don't

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even say football.
Yeah, we can say sports.

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We can say sports.
I'll say sports friendly, I

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mean, because in general, you
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obviously, I mean, not a great
12 year run of football in those

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years.
Not really a 12 year run of any

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sport On what I would say to me,
there's like there's a Big 5.

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And if you ask me what the Big 5
are, it's obviously football's

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one, men and women's basketball.
But softball and baseball,

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they're lagging behind.
But they get so much notoriety

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this time of year, right?
Like Tally, I know you're down

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in SEC country, we're in ACC
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Those baseball games are all
over the place.

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Those softball games are all
over ESPN.

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They're all over all the
networks.

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And there was never anything
there for him.

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And then he made the comment
about the bubble.

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Remember the bubble comment?
College sport has a bubble

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that's going to burst and he
thought it was going to burst.

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Well, 12 years later, it ain't
burst yet.

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It's growing bigger and bigger.
And then his tenure here.

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So what you want to say
effectively Virginia Tech got

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behind whether that is his fault
or not.

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Take it however you want it.
But Charlie, anything on this?

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I mean, does it matter to you
again, you're you're you're a

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Virginia Tech sports fan where
you know, we have friends

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neighbors Brian and I have
neighbors and friends who are

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alumni went there.
But anything for you.

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I just want the people to make
the sports good.

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That's all I want.
Like if you don't want to make

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sports good, get out.
You know what I'm saying?

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Get out of here.
So I don't know much about what

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he has done and what he hadn't
done, but I know enough people

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who can tell me what he had and
haven't done.

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DD Cunningham, you guys feel and
y'all say it's time to go.

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So guess what man, Tim's saying
it's time to go buddy.

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You all have a good I'll.
Go to the place.

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There you go.
Good one by.

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Phil, I like what Phil just put
up right there because you've

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got to be willing to move and
make the moves as the president.

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So Tim Sands gone, it will be
interesting to see the coaching

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or the president search.
I mean, obviously, are we going

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to follow a tooth and nail?
Probably, but it's probably

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going to be where they coming
from.

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Because if you come and tell me
Tally or Brian, oh, this guy was

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at the University of Florida or
University of Georgia or like a

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Michigan, OK, you sit here and
start saying, OK, they take

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sports very seriously in all
those elements.

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But if you say it's someone
like, I don't know, make up a

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school Tally, you good at that?
Central Sideways, Michigan.

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There you go.
Central sideways Michigan.

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Oh, wait a second.
That ain't a big time sports.

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Like they're not coming from
that big one.

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So we're going to be sitting
here likely doing this.

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God, they gave me sound effects.
They don't know what they've

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done, Curtis.
Curtis started early with them,

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man.
It's going to be all the.

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Time we get a little bit of a
soundboard, Curtis.

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Like I got, I got to throw it in
here.

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I got to throw it in here man.
Oh y'all wait, Tally's getting

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access starting next week to the
soundboard, so y'all can only

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imagine what he's going to do
with this.

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Time I want to even be a show.
I mean tally soundboard.

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All right, so Sam's gone.
The search will be interesting

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over the probably the I would I
would assume it would be similar

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to Sam's probably October will
be the entry.

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But then we got good news wrote
by Andy bitter this this week or

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late last week and y'all know
I'm a butcher of names.

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I'm going to do my best May
Who'll say honey is back on the

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Bob?
Maybe.

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Hey man, I think you did OK
there.

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I'll, I'll start there.
I think you did OK.

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You got through it and that's
that's what counts.

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But getting Mayhul back and, and
the funniest part of the Mayhul

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the the whole situation was they
did him dirty with the initial

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photo that they threw up there
and he and he was hurt about it

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and Andy brought it up and they
got, they got it right.

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And I, and I commented, I was
like, hey now, y'all got to take

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care of our buddy Terrell Smith.
Y'all got to go get him a new

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photo.
Y'all got, y'all got the 1 from

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2020 still floating out there.
So, but yeah, getting my whole

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back on there.
I mean, that's somebody that is,

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that's a, that's a football guy.
That's a guy that, that, I mean,

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he loves all the, all the
Virginia Tech athletics, but I

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mean, he eats, sleeps and
breathes Virginia Tech football.

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And getting that type of person
on the board of visitors is only

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going to be a good thing for
football.

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I just seen him at the game.
If you go look up the pictures

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on Twitter and you see him on
the sideline, who was it

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against?
Was it against Miami or Georgia

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Tech?
I can't even.

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No, it was just Boston College.
Boston College.

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OK Oh yeah, the the blowout
game, yeah, I.

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Think it was Boston College.
I mean, he deserves to be on

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just for that picture, so I'm
good.

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That should be his picture on
the BOV, not him in a nice suit.

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Him screaming into Boston pilot
game Obviously having him on

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there he was or has given the
largest donation.

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Athletics and football clearly a
different a step in the right

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direction with the BOB-2.
Again, we're playing catch up,

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but it's to stay caught up as
much as you possibly can.

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And I think most people know he
will definitely stick his neck

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out there and push the agenda
forward to keep Virgin Tech

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athletics.
I'm going to say just in the

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conversation of one of those
programs.

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All right.
Last but not least, which this

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was expected I think last year
at this time, but it didn't

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happen.
John Delenn is retiring in June.

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On my birthday, what what a
gift, what a gift that is, man.

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This is one that I think a lot
of people had been wanting for a

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long time.
And and this is really, you

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know, when we talk about
Virginia Tech from an

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operational standpoint, being
kind of mom and pop operation,

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John Boleyn in a lot of ways is
the face of that from a football

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perspective at least.
So you talk about being able to

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move past that.
You talk about a guy like

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Franklin coming in and setting
up a situation that is football

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friendly in the athletic
department.

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This is why this is so important
because because it's not just we

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are operating like a major
college football program needs

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to operate now.
And I consider John Boleyn the

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biggest opponent to moving in
that direction from a

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organizational structure,
especially when it comes to

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football, but also within the
athletic department in general.

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You got to get the old people
out of there.

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They got to go, man.
You got to get the old people

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who don't want to hear stick it
in young boy, NBA2K, whatever

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his name is, like I don't want
to listen to him, but the kids

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are going to listen to him.
So you got to get, you got to

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get the place height, man, you
got to get it.

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If you going to be a part of a
university, a part of sports,

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you got to figure out what's
going to fill the stands and you

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got to figure out what can you
do to win.

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Most of the time that's cheap.
So we need some people that's

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going to cheat and some people
that's going to turn their head

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and let me cheat.
I will cheat.

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I don't know what Belandin was
doing.

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They was cheating in another
way, like he was putting his

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family members on the staff.
Somebody just said can he get

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his daughter removed?
I don't even know if she's good

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at what she does, but whatever,
I thought she.

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Moved on a couple years ago, I
thought.

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I thought she was.
Oh, she did.

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What's she doing now?
Just.

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Since she in the basketball
staff.

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OK, I think she's in women's
fans in some way.

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She was, she was with football,
so I guess maybe she.

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Was with football.
She just got dragged.

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Out when things got shuffled.
But but what?

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What Mama Boleyn like she's been
in a basketball game for?

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Years.
Oh.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah.

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The basketball.
Whole family and he'll knock

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fucking off.
Yeah, but, and here's the point

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about John Boleyn.
Because if everybody knows the

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story, John Boleyn.
Hey buddy BI, see you.

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But the javelin, I think what
Tally just said is right.

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He was too old, dear.
He was Frank Beamer's right hand

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man for a long time.
During a lot of good seasons.

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He made a lot of good things
happen because if you look at

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when he was here, he was like
the basically the football

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operations guy in the early 90s
and then the associate AD

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football.
Curtis, I want you to finish

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your statement.
I want you to finish your

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statement, but you just said
Beamer's right hand man.

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Beamer's right hand man.
But this is the point that you

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make.
Wait, listen, in 2015 when Frank

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left Java Lynch and no, no, no,
I can't disagree with.

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That, no, yeah, right.
So that's what I'm going back

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to.
Yeah.

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I don't even know if Frank knows
if he going and coming these

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days.
I love Frank Bingham, but when

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you see them keep trotting Frank
out here, Frank looks like a wax

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museum statue right now.
Like you got to get the old

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people off the camera and out of
stuff.

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You know what I'm saying?
Frank is enjoying retirement.

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John Boleyn, go enjoy
retirement.

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You know you made enough money.
Go find something to do.

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I know you got a lot of money.
Go play some golf and get drunk

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and I'll run around next year or
something, I don't know.

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Oh no, don't do that.
I just believe that I as well

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depends on what it.
Depends.

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Well, it's not near me.
Venue matters a whole lot more

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than what you're doing there.
There, there's a, there's a

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proper venue for pretty much
anything you want to do if you

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really want to do it.
It's true.

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All right, so Belen's retiring
effectively with Sands, gone

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with Berlin gong.
You know, you're talking about

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what Brian mentioned a few
minutes ago in with what James

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Franklin keeps saying
institution alignment and all

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this.
It looks like certain pieces are

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moving out.
A president not as inclined to

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support athletics, a executive
AD who's more inclined to try to

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do stuff on the pops way, get
them gone, bring new blood in,

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bring young people in.
Somebody late night who who is

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I'm not again, 40s, not young
but in their 40s that are seen

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and saying you need to do this,
you need to do this to keep up.

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We can't do it the old way.
Let's talk mindset before,

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before we got a poll.
We're going to throw up here for

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you in a second here, but let's
talk mindset real quick because

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I think that is the disconnect
both with Sans, with went to a

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degree with John Belen
especially is that, and I know

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WIT kind of predated this a
little bit with all this issue

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predated with a little bit.
But the problem that we had from

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Virginia Tech perspective,
especially when it comes to

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football is that Frank was able
to do it this way.

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Anybody else should be able to
come in here and do it the same

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way.
The problem was is twofold #1

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just cause Frank can do it that
way doesn't mean that's the only

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way it can be done #2 the reason
that Frank was pushed out when

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he was was because things
changed and it wasn't working

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anymore.
It wasn't working anymore.

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Doing it the way we did it from
93 to 2011 wasn't cutting it

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anymore.
It wasn't cutting it anymore.

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So keeping everything from an
operational standpoint the same

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and just putting in a new coach
that that's only going to get

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you so far.
Even even you know, we can shit

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on Fuente all we want to.
We can shit on Pry all we want

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to.
We get that they didn't get the

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job done, but at the same point
in time, things behind the

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scenes were not operating the
way they needed to to give them

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the best chance for success.
I, I agree.

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I mean, I think that's on point
right there.

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And that's why and again, it
took a little bit too long, but

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you're now seeing kind of the
winds of change happen and

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you're seeing the winds of
change.

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Hold on a second with the poll,
Brian, because this is something

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you brought up at the BOV
meeting.

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Donations are up 25% across the
board for the most part.

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It's only like 1 sector of
donation limits is down.

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Everybody else is up
significantly.

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And right now the amount
collected is at all time highs.

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Like, there you go, you start
moving people out of the way.

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You start getting people in to
do new things, new ways, money.

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Starts.
That is a damn good start

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because money make the world go
round.

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I mean, it's, it's like Wu
totals, right?

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But real quick, we want to try a
little something.

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A lot of people in the comments
love seeing it for a poll

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question.
We got to see how this works.

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And you, you answer the poll
question by putting the number

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you agree with.
So which of the three moves is

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going to impact Hokies football
the most?

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The retiring of Tim Sands.
The retiring of John Belen #2 or

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Mayhul getting back on the Bob,
Tim Sands one, Belen's two,

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Mayhul's three.
Put it in the chat and we'll see

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what y'all are thinking.
We'll check back in in a little

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while on this because all three
moves are significant in in both

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to me, all positive.
Hey, look at that.

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It worked.
It worked up.

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Way to go, Phil.
You first.

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First in, first out, baby.
So if you put a number in, give

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us your opinion, we'll keep it
up on the screen there.

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It's to the left, Batali, answer
it up.

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We got to split.
We got to split decisions here,

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but let's talk Kylie, you
mentioned at the beginning of it

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and Kylie, you, you kind of
gotten a little bit back into

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it.
You weren't here last week with

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Frisbee and Taylor.
We talked about the two kids up

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out of Maryland defensive
lineman that committed.

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But you hit me and Brian up just
the other day and you said we're

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going to get Perkins and we did
get Xavier Perkins, 6 foot two,

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240 LB edge out of Jordan High
School in Durham, NC.

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I can remember Jordan, I believe
they had those blue helmets.

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Borderline a top 10 prospect.
I mean, he's a whisper away from

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being a four-star.
Lot of offers across the board.

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So Kylie, you read up on him a
little bit more than me and

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Brian have.
What do you like about the kid

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that holds offers from, you
know, places like Miami,

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Louisville, Auburn, you know,
Ole Miss, quite a few good

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schools out there wanting him?
Yeah, no, just good, good

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production, good offer list.
If you go and look up and down

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his, you know, social media,
Miami was all over him.

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I mean, he was, I don't want to
say a lot.

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There's no kids a lot even when
they commit.

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But I mean, he's got Ruben bang
retweets all type of stuff down

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his down his X page, down his
social media.

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So you know, he was at Miami a
lot.

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You know, of course Miami is the
hot team.

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They just went, you know,
national championship.

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So they got the best, one of the
best D lines that we've seen in

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the past.
What I don't know, maybe 10

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years.
So it was a lot of reasons for

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that kid to go to Miami like it.
It's not hard to sell Miami on a

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defensive Miami, but Franklin
them did their job and and chaos

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and got in there and plucked
them away.

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So I'm interested to see because
it's still a lot of like high

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defensive lineman that's on the
board that I think we sit well

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with.
You know, I'm no recruiting

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guru, I'm just nosy, but I'm
interested to see how many D

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lineman they take.
Because if you think about the

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offensive lineman this year, we
took a lot of offensive lineman

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this year, I think maybe 7 or 8,
which we need.

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So when you start to look at
defensive lineman, it's like who

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all is going to hop in?
Who are they going to let hop

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in?
Who are they?

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You know, who is at the top of
the board?

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But Xavier Perkins is a good
pick up from a recruiting

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standpoint.
A little bit undecized.

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Sometimes that kind of worries
me just because, you know, I

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want everybody to be beat, but a
little bit undecized.

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But like I said, when a school
like Miami is hard, after you

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like, hey man, I got to trust
what they do.

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Yeah.
I think, I think it's a good

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player.
Yeah, Weights.

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Definitely.
And the weight is there.

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I think, you know, 62 probably
not quite as long as maybe you

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want at ADN, but I mean, you
know, coming in at 2:40, I don't

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know if that's a true 240.
Obviously that's that's kind of

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a TBD at this point, but it
probably isn't that far off

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right.
So you're probably at least

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talking 2:30, which is, you
know, decent, decent weight for

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somebody at, you know, at six
two coming in playing DN, you

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know, looking at the tape, you
know, I like to get off.

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He he, he played with his hand
in the dirt some, he played

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standing up some.
So he's got some of that

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versatility to be able to do
that.

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You know, just like you said,
Tally looking at somebody that

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had the eye of Miami pretty
heavy.

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Yeah, that's going to be
somebody that you want to have

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in your in your building and and
getting that commit, you know,

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early in the cycle.
I think it's going to be good.

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Obviously we got a a handful of
other big time defensive line

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players that we sit pretty good
with.

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And I think to your point tally,
I think this is going to be a

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very defensive line focused
class.

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I think we'll still see us take
probably, you know, about 5

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offensive lineman.
I think that's about what you

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need to take just about every
cycle, four or five at least.

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And I so I think you're still
going to see that this cycle.

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But I think looking at where our
depths sits on the defensive

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line and kind of what we need to
do to backfill there, I think

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that's why you're going to see a
big focus in this class on

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defensive line, especially that
edge position.

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Yeah.
And and we talked about, we're

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asked if the two 40s legit.
I think the two 40s legit, all

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the recruiting sites have him
around 2:40, a couple of them

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have him at 63.
So maybe he's like the one of

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those two and three 4262 and
three quarter guys 240.

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So I think the weight's legit.
Now, obviously.

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Can that change?
Yeah, because people's body

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change.
Like if he grows to 6/4, he

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ain't going to weigh 240 lbs
anymore.

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He probably going to weigh 2:30.
But that gives you more mass or

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more height to work for the mask
on.

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So very good pick up there one
tomorrow.

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We are in the hunt for.
Keep an eye on this one because

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Joseph Buchanan up out of
McDonough, 4 star, top 20D

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lineman, top five player in the
state, top 200 player

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nationally.
That kids a stud and no crystal

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balls yet.
Nobody knows what he's going to

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do, but by all indications,
we've been hot on him.

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He's set to make an official
visit in about sometime next

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month, I believe.
So that would be Kyle.

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I'm assuming this is one of the
guys you have like on your radar

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is one of the big defensive ends
left just because of where he

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sits nationally across?
Oh yeah, I mean, Chris Whitehead

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out of Virginia is probably the
number one guy that you want to

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get.
I think he's the number one

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player in Virginia and I can't
remember what he said

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nationally.
But.

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I think he's right.
Around yeah, so any so I mean,

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that's that's the kid that you
want.

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Of course, you know, Virginia
kid that can play, but Buchanan

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out of Maryland is he's pretty
highly ranked man, and he's got

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you can go watch his film.
You can see why it's highly

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ranked.
You know, got great size when

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you talk about, you know, 64260
and he's saying he's a he's a

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edge.
He's not a because I think some

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one of the sites said interior
lineman and he goes on there and

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says I'm not an interior
lineman.

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He may get moved to that, but
what he's playing now he's

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saying he's a defensive end.
So I mean at that size, that's a

444
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,400
little different man to be and
and to move how he moves.

445
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,760
So if you're going to watch him
like he's the legit, he's a

446
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,240
legit player man.
And it's, it's crazy because

447
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,640
everybody knows like that James
Franklin can recruit.

448
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,600
That's not I, I don't think that
no fan that watches football

449
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,360
says, well, he's going to have
trouble recruiting.

450
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,000
But in the, the way that he's
getting people to just like,

451
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,680
it's not like, Oh, we on this
kid and it's taking months.

452
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,840
And then we're, it's like, you
never hear about these players.

453
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,280
And then next thing you know,
it's like, oh, they got to

454
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,640
recruit.
I mean they have a a commitment

455
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,000
date coming.
Back in a week.

456
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,800
You know, so it's, it's quick.
So whatever he's selling, man.

457
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,560
And we, you know, I had some
boots on the ground.

458
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,520
I had some eyes up there in
Blacksburg, just to let you all

459
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,600
know, because I got my ears to
the street.

460
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,000
The stuff that he says, because
sometimes I, I know people say

461
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,000
he says the same thing in every,
in every, you know, interview

462
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,600
that he's given.
But when he says the big thing

463
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,960
that stood out to some people
that I had up there, when he

464
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,960
says it should look big time,
feel big time, smell big time,

465
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,720
they said that's what it is.
You know, people who were in

466
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,160
meetings, in the practice, in,
you know what I'm saying, the

467
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:29,960
facility, the workouts, I mean,
right at Ground Zero, they said

468
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,080
it is no nonsense situation
going on up there right now, you

469
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,240
know, and everything is is big
time.

470
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,600
Let me tell you something else,
Curtis.

471
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,640
Let me tell you what I like.
You tell me.

472
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,920
What a lot of people had a
problem with and that cartoon

473
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,120
guy, whatever his name is, I
don't want to give him too much

474
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,480
credit because I don't want to
give him no kind of shine on our

475
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,680
show.
But he's an idiot.

476
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,000
So it's more people that kind of
go with that saying that he

477
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,880
says, they say, well, oh, James
Franklin wants to make it about

478
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:04,320
him.
If you go somewhere and it's a

479
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,320
shit hole when you want to make
it better, you know what I'm

480
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,640
saying?
So when, when when James

481
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,760
Franklin said we had stuff on
the walls that was from 2

482
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,760
coaches ago, yeah, that shit
should have been down.

483
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,600
Like, I mean, come on man.
Like why am I going to have a

484
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,920
picture of Justin Fuente on the
wall or anything he said when he

485
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,600
clearly didn't want to be in
Virginia, You know what I'm

486
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,960
saying?
Like he didn't, he didn't do

487
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,200
nothing he'll do.
He deserves to have no kind of

488
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,560
place on the wall or statue or
anything like that.

489
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,760
Now, if he were to say it, are
we going to remove everything?

490
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,440
Frank Beemo Yeah, we're going to
do some talking about that.

491
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,480
But when he's talking about
these other coaches that have

492
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:53,560
come pry Fuente, which pry still
around.

493
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,880
So you going to have some of his
philosophy things that he say

494
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,040
and do are going to be around.
But yeah, you have to make it

495
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,280
about you because it's your
philosophy.

496
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:08,040
You're the coach, you are the
basic, you're the face of the

497
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,720
program.
So why wouldn't you want it to

498
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,880
be changed and want it to go the
way that you want it to go?

499
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,520
Because when the when the when
the ALS rack up, it's on you.

500
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,200
Every time we was talking about
things that was going on in a

501
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,480
game last year or the last 3-4
years and somebody goes, oh,

502
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,640
it's the I said it's Pry.
It is him.

503
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,200
He's the head coach.
That's where it's stopped,

504
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,600
right, Because who can who can
make changes?

505
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,640
The head coach can say don't
play that guy, play that guy.

506
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,880
Eventually it's it's the it's
the old Harry Truman line, right

507
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:48,840
Brian, it's true the buck stops
here because I'm getting paid

508
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,680
more than anybody right now in
the state of Virginia got wise

509
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,320
James Franklin not a half
$1,000,000.

510
00:31:54,840 --> 00:32:00,240
So, yeah, but class is off to a
good start tomorrow would be

511
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,360
nice.
Whitehead would be unbelievable.

512
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,240
Just just an FYI if you
wondering about Chris Wrighthead

513
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,560
for those here in in Richmond,
he is down at LC Byrd.

514
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,240
He is the number one player in
Virginia, the number.

515
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,880
He is a five star composite.
He is a top five edge guy,

516
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,240
basically a top 25 national
player.

517
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:27,160
We ain't seen the likes of that
Joe macho was O 8 right macho,

518
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,000
macho.
So there you go no Kim before

519
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,680
Kim before was like 40th player
in the country.

520
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,480
We ain't seen many of them all
right, let's roll on and let's

521
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,480
get in the spring game and I'm
going to go on my rant real

522
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,320
quick here, because y'all know I
have to.

523
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,240
We don't know what the format we
don't we you know give me give

524
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,880
me loaded up here.
We don't know what the spring

525
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,800
game format is yet.
Apparently we're going to get

526
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,440
prestage tomorrow and hopefully
we find out that it's the right

527
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,760
way.
So Coach Franklin, I know you're

528
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,320
in your office because you're a
workaholic.

529
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,840
You probably, you probably went
home for dinner for about an

530
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,480
hour on that with the wife,
drove back over to Merriman.

531
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:14,400
Please, please, please can we
make the football game Saturday

532
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,920
in the format?
Beat offense versus defense, all

533
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,400
of all the offense on one side,
all the defense on the other.

534
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,200
Mix and match the twos versus
the ones, the walk ONS versus

535
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,200
the walk ONS, the ones versus
the walk ONS, just so we can see

536
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,880
how ugly it'll get.
Because what has killed me in

537
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,680
the last decade is watching a
spring game where it's like

538
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,080
we're going to split the roster
up.

539
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,080
We ain't there yet to where we
can split the roster up.

540
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,920
I'd like to see us one day be
there, but when that roster gets

541
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,080
dropped tomorrow, and if it is
the format I think it's going to

542
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,920
be, which is going to make me
sad, mad, but that is what it

543
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,680
is.
We going to sit here and be like

544
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,800
whoever got Ethan Grotmeyer and
whoever's got three good lineman

545
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,760
is going to win the game.
Candidly, don't matter because

546
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,960
that's the way it's been the
last half decade.

547
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,760
If you got the quarterback and
you got a good lineman because

548
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,239
the running backs ain't gonna
play that much.

549
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,480
So please, if you haven't read
it all out yet, go offense

550
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,480
versus defense.
You can mix it up.

551
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:23,600
You can keep guys healthier.
All right, I know where Curtis

552
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,280
stands and and I'm going to, I'm
going to be the, you know, you

553
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,840
can call me a fence sitter if
you want to.

554
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,800
I I've got my foot in both camps
on this one and I'll tell you

555
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,199
why.
If you're looking, if you're

556
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,920
like us and you want to watch a
game and figure out the depth

557
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,600
chart and figure out how pieces
are looking when they play

558
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,280
together and figure out all
those things that potentially

559
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,960
could matter in the fall, then
offense versus defense is what

560
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,920
you want to see.
If you want to go to the spring

561
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:04,360
game and watch a form of
football that looks more like a

562
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,120
game, then you want to split
roster.

563
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:12,000
And for the most part, with this
being an exhibition with us

564
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,560
trying to pack lane, I've got a
feeling they're going to lean

565
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,040
towards more of that split
roster format where it's more of

566
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:25,000
a traditional game flow that
your average casual fan is

567
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,440
looking to experience.
And I don't think that's

568
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:33,600
necessarily a bad thing, but I
do think that it will make it

569
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:39,800
harder for people like us to get
a real evaluation of how much

570
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,720
this roster has improved at the
moment with the pieces that we

571
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:47,320
brought in with Franklin at the
head of this thing.

572
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,280
Because you're you know, you're
going to get vanilla scripts

573
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,000
from Pry.
You know you can get vanilla

574
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,360
scripts from how?
Man, we better get some

575
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,800
chocolate and caramel scripts
and pry, you know long enough.

576
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,360
Don't be hiding shit.
You better be doing something,

577
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,360
Brent.
But but I'll put vanilla on top

578
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,280
of vanilla for you Tally, just
so you did MAD.

579
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,320
I, I, I, I, I just want to see a
better product than we saw last

580
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,160
year.
And like, there, there's, there

581
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,200
was a whole lot of reasons that
last year's spring game sucked.

582
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,160
Number one was the weather #1 I
mean the weather it was.

583
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:26,640
It was 40° with a 30° wind chill
at kickoff.

584
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,440
This year.
That's what you want.

585
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,000
God, this year Tyler, I wish me
and you could go bring your.

586
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,680
Sunscreen.
Bring your sunscreen.

587
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,560
Saturday in Blacksburg is going
to be like 85°.

588
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,920
The rain is coming in overnight,
so probably as the day goes on,

589
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,760
it's probably going to cool down
a little bit and feel really

590
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,120
nice.
Sunny.

591
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,760
Oh man, I don't even know what
to say.

592
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,400
But I mean, but so other things
that were wrong with the spring

593
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,120
game last year, you had a
basically a lame duck head

594
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,480
coach.
So like the enthusiasm of what

595
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,520
they wanted to see wasn't there.
So you weren't going to get the

596
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,720
crowds that you normally get.
Add in the weather, you got even

597
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:12,440
less crowds and I think you
would have gotten with with good

598
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,000
weather.
That's a fairpoint, Phil, That's

599
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,800
a fairpoint.
And I and I think that's that

600
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,440
that goes that goes without
saying.

601
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,760
But the the third thing is that
you had your number one and #2

602
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,000
quarterbacks out, You had a
couple lineman banged up and you

603
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,760
split the rosters.
And now you've got red shirt

604
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,320
freshman and true freshman
quarterbacks running this thing

605
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:45,760
behind a split offensive line.
And they're still at the point

606
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,440
where they're processing the
offense because again, it was a

607
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,360
new install offense with these
freshmen and true freshmen.

608
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,440
So all these things blending
together created an absolute

609
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,480
shit show of a game to watch.
And I was, I was, I was well

610
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,240
into the cups at that point.
So that made it a little bit

611
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:09,480
more palatable for me.
But I can, I can't imagine

612
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,840
watching that thing sober.
Y'all y'all want to go see

613
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,600
something funny and Tal I don't
know if you watched it the live

614
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,040
show Brian did with like Pete me
I mean that y'all are all

615
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,680
fucking hammered Well nobody's
sober up there the.

616
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,600
Problem was me and me and Pete
left the the game like it was

617
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,760
like 445 minutes left in the
fourth quarter.

618
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,360
We were like, we're getting out
of here, we're going to TOTS,

619
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,680
We're getting a rail before we
go over to Maroon Door.

620
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,640
So get a rail at Maroon Door,
walk around, go over to or get a

621
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,400
rail of TOTS, go to Maroon Door.
I start, I hit I had two gin and

622
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,240
tonics after the rail before we
even started that stream.

623
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:50,640
So that gives you a a good
barometer of kind of where I was

624
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:59,880
sitting at that point in time.
Needless to say, at the middle

625
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:04,120
of that stream my my wife held
up a little sign on a note paper

626
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:12,200
to say you're saying fuck a lot.
So, so tally, so tally any, any

627
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,600
feelings on the format of the
game or is that something you're

628
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,360
going to talk on later?
You can hold together.

629
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:32,040
You there tally check check.
I'm pretty sure I'm lagging.

630
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,640
You're lagging, but that's fine.
Lagging is OK as long as we get.

631
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:42,320
I got you.
I think.

632
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,080
It's a two way lag.
I think it's a two way lag.

633
00:39:53,350 --> 00:39:57,190
We lost him, but anyway, we'll
we'll get him back in just a

634
00:39:57,190 --> 00:39:59,710
second here as we get into kind
of the spring game preview,

635
00:39:59,710 --> 00:40:04,230
three things that we're looking
at thinking about as we have the

636
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:07,150
game on Saturday, obviously
Brian heading down.

637
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,800
Brian, while Tally's getting
back up here, give him a give

638
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,280
him a shameless plug of where
you're going to be pregame and

639
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,400
who you going to be with.
Shameless plug.

640
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,960
Here we go.
All right, I'll get Tally back.

641
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,160
Oh, you got Tally back in there?
We.

642
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,200
Go, I got him some.
Shame.

643
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,160
Shameless plug for this weekend,
Saturday spring game day.

644
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,080
Come to Chicken Hill.
Top part of the hill, back, back

645
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,400
part of the parking lot there.
Right on the right on the very

646
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,360
top there, right on the little
grassy curtain where the it's

647
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,200
nice and flat there.
We're going to be set up noon,

648
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,320
noon.
We're we're we're going live.

649
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:48,120
It's me, PB, Sam from too deep
as well.

650
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,640
And Dan Pulse from Tales from
the Terror Domes are going to be

651
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,160
a couple other fun guests here.
They're popping in with us.

652
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,840
But we're going to do about an
hour pregame show right there at

653
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,960
noon.
There's going to be tailgate so

654
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,840
full tailgate spread our man
Steven and Nate are are hosting

655
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,760
this thing, so there's going to
be some really good food.

656
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,080
They got some pulled pork, got
some sauces, got some wings, got

657
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,760
got some fun sides that they're
bringing tunes will be going.

658
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,480
So come check that out.
There's going to be a Venmo

659
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,160
there.
If if y'all want to throw throw

660
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,480
a few bones Stevens way.
He's he's he's pulling all this

661
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,360
food and stuff together for this
event for us.

662
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,320
So and anything y'all can
contribute is is appreciated is

663
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,680
going to be BYOB.
There will be a bourbon table

664
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,520
for some sampling.
But aside from that BBYOB.

665
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,880
So come see us.
It's going to be a good time.

666
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,520
Man, I'm pissed I ain't going to
be there.

667
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,480
And we all, and we.
All I was like, come on, Tally,

668
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,920
let's get up here, man, let's
get up here.

669
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,480
And so much going on.
Listen, anybody in the chat, if

670
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,960
you don't have kids, keep it
that way.

671
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,920
Do not have kids.
The worst thing you can do with

672
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,400
your life and your money?
You're.

673
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:08,600
Going to be a rich.
Man or woman and have all your

674
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,480
time to yourself.
If you don't have the kids,

675
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:17,000
don't have them.
Tally Tally is endorsing the

676
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,520
DINK lifestyle.
Geez.

677
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,720
School income, no kids.
Life, man, don't do it my.

678
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,480
Son, shut up, Tally.
He was going.

679
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,560
We got to we got to see what's
going on with him.

680
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,920
I got to take him to the doctor
tomorrow.

681
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:36,040
But he he's got a baseball
tournament this weekend, the end

682
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,600
of the year tournament and then
so he'll be Saturday.

683
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,240
We got game.
So I just got roped in and

684
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:45,520
couldn't do nothing and I'm sad
about it.

685
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,600
Just to let y'all know.
I'm saying I got back-to-back

686
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,440
games and I am a coach.
Yeah.

687
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,880
For a bunch of for for a bunch
of sweet little, sweet little

688
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,560
pre-K and kindergarten girls.
Oh.

689
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:00,520
Man.
Yeah, they're Hokies, man.

690
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,560
They're Hokies.
They're Hokies.

691
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,960
There you go.
That's all right.

692
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,840
That's where it needs to know
people who are running the

693
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,200
league.
They usually put you on the team

694
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,120
that you know that, that you
don't like the hats.

695
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,280
But let's get into it.
I've been, I kind of mentioned

696
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,720
from the top of the program,
we're going to start that now.

697
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,720
And obviously as we get into the
chat, chat, give us some of the

698
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:24,160
things you're looking at on
Saturday.

699
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,800
But we're looking like we kind
of me and Tally and Brian, we've

700
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,000
kind of talked and went back and
forth in like 3 things that

701
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,560
we're looking forward to or
looking into for Saturday.

702
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:36,720
So Tally, I won't let you lead
off because when you hit this,

703
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:39,600
I'm like, man, you, you nailed
this 100%.

704
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,360
I mean, main thing just it's a
spring game.

705
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,560
I mean, you can't put much
validity into it, but who's

706
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,560
playing, who's not, who's hurt?
That's the one of the main

707
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,760
things that, you know, I would
be paying attention to because

708
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,840
anybody hurt right now, anybody
not playing is not only missing

709
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,880
reps on a brand new team, you're
also missing, you know, some

710
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,680
camaraderie and things like
that.

711
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,600
A lot of a lot of these kids,
it's going to be the first time

712
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,080
running out of that lane, you
know what I'm saying?

713
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,120
You get the, you know, kind of
see how somebody handles that.

714
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,560
So I will be definitely looking
at who's hurt, you know, who's

715
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,720
playing.
And again, Franklin's a brand

716
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:23,840
new coach, man.
He's not holding spots.

717
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:29,360
So if you're hurt and you can't
get healthy, you might be ending

718
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,040
up at Norfolk State.
I'm just saying.

719
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,440
Yeah.
That's what I'll.

720
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,240
Check it out.
No, no, not that when you

721
00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:40,440
brought it up and you know, and
I'll hit nine in a second here,

722
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,480
I'll let Brian kind of follow
up, but you're right.

723
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:47,080
Who is playing, who's not?
Because if you can't go out

724
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,040
there in the heat of
competition, and I know they've

725
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,640
had scrimmages, y'all, there's
been several scrimmages, there's

726
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,800
practices, but it's like full
stadium.

727
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,120
We're trying to run it like a
real game.

728
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,960
If you can't go out there, it is
something to be said.

729
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,600
Now, clearly, I do think
Franklin's a smart enough guy

730
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,800
that if a key player who's
busted their ass all spring,

731
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,520
that has looked good as Nick,
like you ain't playing today.

732
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,440
But guys who are fighting for
the 2D or special teams, you

733
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:21,040
better fight through it.
Because I mean, I think, I mean,

734
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,520
Brian's probably going to have
his roster list out there, but

735
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:28,160
have him being like, I don't see
#44 where's 44?

736
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,680
It better.
Not be doing it.

737
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,280
And I will pull it up before I
go into the stadium because we

738
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,120
all know how that goes,
especially if they're going to

739
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,000
pack, pack this thing which
they're trying to do.

740
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,040
We'll, we'll see how that goes.
I definitely think we're going

741
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,760
to see at least double what we
saw last year, but we'll see if

742
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,880
they can get that thing filled
up. 6060 thousand hey.

743
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:47,680
Any.
Any.

744
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:48,600
Any.
Feelings on what?

745
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,560
Tally said.
That was one of his things, Ron

746
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:51,480
just.
Yeah.

747
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,240
I mean, I think, you know, Tally
hit it hit it really well

748
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:56,520
because I mean, that's that's
the biggest thing you're talking

749
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:02,280
about And who's playing matters
both right now for us to be able

750
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:05,400
to evaluate, but it also matters
for like everything going

751
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,840
forward into the fall because to
to to Tally's point, I mean,

752
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,160
this is you're missing reps in a
new offense or new defense.

753
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,480
I know it's a mostly same
defense, but at the same time,

754
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,880
it's still, you know, there's
nuances that prize probably

755
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,200
going to be put in there that we
didn't see last year.

756
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,960
And then you look at the
camaraderie piece and then you

757
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,120
look at, you know, does this put
anybody that isn't able to play,

758
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,520
even if they are, you know, even
if you got them penciled into

759
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,920
the 2 deep, is this hurting
their chances of being that you

760
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,800
going from second team to
starter?

761
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,880
Is this helping their chances
from going, you know, from

762
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,400
fringe second team up in the,
you know, firmly in the second

763
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,560
team?
I think that that's where, you

764
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,560
know, some of these guys being
nicked up, whether it's, you

765
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,960
know, Terry or Howling.
I mean, you know, Terry may be

766
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,880
going howling.
You know, it is definitely out

767
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,280
all spring.
So we know we're not going to

768
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,760
see him.
You know that that's an

769
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,160
important piece.
And when you look at a position

770
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,160
like the offensive line,
obviously that's a big thing

771
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,080
because you're trying to get
your best five out there.

772
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,400
It's a position that we have
been struggling at really going

773
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,960
back, you know, to the 2021
season.

774
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,120
I think, you know, 2020 was our
last offensive line that you can

775
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,520
look at and point to and say
that's a good offensive line.

776
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,960
You feel good about that
offensive line.

777
00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:26,160
Everything since then has been
kind of downhill and almost

778
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,320
progressively.
So it's almost gotten worse.

779
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,240
And we can, we can talk about
the lack of recruiting the

780
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:35,000
position properly and
backfilling and having to rely

781
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,880
on transfers coming into the
spring to kind of fill some

782
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,080
holes and things like that.
Like there's, there's been a lot

783
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,240
of problems with the offensive
line, which we've talked about

784
00:47:43,240 --> 00:47:45,160
ad nauseam.
So I'm not going to, you know,

785
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,920
belabor the point much further
than that.

786
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,000
But it's this is where you can
kind of gel and and become a

787
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,480
unit and get that camaraderie
because more than any other

788
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,680
place on the field, that
offensive line needs to work as

789
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:05,680
a unit.
It's not, it's not players just

790
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,160
working in tandem within a
scheme.

791
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,160
It is players working literally
communicating every snap and

792
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,560
having to do one job to open up
holes or one job to, to to

793
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,360
protect the quarterback.
So that that that is more

794
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,720
important from a camaraderie
standpoint than probably any

795
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:24,120
other position group on the
field.

796
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:30,200
All right, so obviously 1 of
Bron's key points here is the

797
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,560
offensive line play and it's
right not having howling there

798
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,280
we'll.
Get there you'll.

799
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,800
Have to get you're going to have
to get what you have one back

800
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,920
into here in a second.
Not getting not having howling

801
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:47,680
definitely hurts.
Apparently from what I heard the

802
00:48:47,720 --> 00:48:51,000
the the Terry was a little bang
banged up.

803
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,760
Sound like he's been doing those
stuff just banged up.

804
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:58,160
But also you heard the
conversations about guys like

805
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,800
Johnny Garrett's been inside
some and that's and the honest

806
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,440
truth is he's OK if he's your
swing tackle, if he's just your

807
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,760
swing guy 3 positions, that's
fine.

808
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,360
But yeah, it kind of correlates
with Tally's point with the

809
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,760
offensive line is the being
hurt, not being out there not

810
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,880
working together.
Also goes by my format works

811
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,400
better because you literally can
try every single possible

812
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,040
combination when they're all on
the same team.

813
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,840
Yeah, I stuck format back in
there.

814
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,320
OK, let me get on mine because
Brian went on his offensive line

815
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,720
rant.
I think skill positions.

816
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,720
I'm interested to see, first of
all, the stories coming out

817
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:45,040
about Overton.
Apparently Overton has been from

818
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,000
everything we've heard,
reporters, tallies inside, folks

819
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,880
talking to us, other people
being on grounds.

820
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,400
Overton has looked like what the
white Victoria years ago said he

821
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,000
was like.
That kid is not a three story.

822
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,760
That kid is almost a five star.
That kid is one of the best

823
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,960
players in the country, if not
the state.

824
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,640
I want to see him.
I want to see Luke Reynolds.

825
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,680
I want to see how that tight end
room shaped out.

826
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:14,760
But what caught my ear listening
to to Coach Franklin speak in a

827
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,840
couple interviews I've been
watching here and there this

828
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:22,400
week is Franklin said aloud.
He believes y'all hear me?

829
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:27,880
He believes that wide receiver
can be a legitimate too deep.

830
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,200
So from his vantage point right
now, he believes that there are

831
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:38,040
6 guys that can have significant
amount of reps in this offense.

832
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,160
And obviously we've heard Aiden
Green, we've seen some like

833
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,280
Brody Adams, Keelan Adams
pictures, we've heard the

834
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,520
Keyshawn stuff.
I want to see what the skill

835
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,040
positions look like.
And it's not so much the guys I

836
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:55,440
know who are coming in proving
like Luke, like Jeff, but it's

837
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,560
the other guys because I don't
think he's going to say certain

838
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,120
things like 2D unless somebody
is really impressing him.

839
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,280
That's the 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th
guy, yeah.

840
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,480
Man, you know, we've heard a lot
about, you know, somebody that

841
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,320
that that keeps getting their
name mentioned.

842
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,360
That's kind of like, come on, is
Luke Stewie?

843
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,840
Luke Stewie.
Stewie.

844
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:21,200
Hey, man.
So if if you've got him coming

845
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,120
on, you got a couple of these
other guys that are I think

846
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,600
finally settling in, whether
it's been injuries or a couple

847
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,200
other things or some of the
young guys.

848
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,280
And you know, you, you pair that
with Aiden Green coming back

849
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,760
good this year.
You got obviously Keshawn coming

850
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,160
in.
I think like all, all of these

851
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:43,640
different, these different
elements, they're going to be,

852
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,520
you know, Green is the only one
that's done it in Blacksburg and

853
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,720
a lot of these other guys have
done it in spurts.

854
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:55,360
A lot of these other guys have.
You're not really had an

855
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:57,640
opportunity.
So we've got a lot of youth, at

856
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,240
least in terms of Blacksburg
snaps, right?

857
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,320
But the talent is there.
And I don't think we've ever

858
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,320
questioned that this is a
talented receiver room.

859
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,880
I think the question was always
going to be, is that talent

860
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,560
going to be realized on the
field?

861
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,720
You know, for one reason or
another, that's kind of held it

862
00:52:15,720 --> 00:52:19,160
back to this point.
Yeah.

863
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,480
Any feelings on the skill
position or offensive line room?

864
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,880
Because that's me and Brian's
one of our threes.

865
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,200
Yeah, it's just kind of go back
down to where we started.

866
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,520
When you talk about health, you
know what I'm saying?

867
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,920
Like we know that they're
talented.

868
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,520
We know that people have the
opportunity to be big players,

869
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,080
but it comes down to can we see
them on the field?

870
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,400
Will we see them on the field?
So it just kind of goes back to

871
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,480
where we started this segment
talking about the health of the

872
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,560
players and what we'll get to
see.

873
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,280
But.
I know that, Phil, Phil put this

874
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,720
in right before you said the
word health.

875
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,800
Literally as you were saying the
word health, this, this dropped

876
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,280
in there.
Yeah, he was texting me.

877
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,040
That's my guy.
And Phil, like this man, I'm

878
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,200
trying to get him to let me
start going to basketball games

879
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,280
with him.
I got to go to I got to get up

880
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,400
there to mom's on the morn.
So I got to get my money, right,

881
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,280
Phil?
But I will be hitting you up and

882
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,680
I'm going to do a full tour.
I just need you to have a, you

883
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,680
know, I don't need no Jason
Voorhees out there.

884
00:53:19,720 --> 00:53:21,680
You know, black people wouldn't
like being in the woods that

885
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,760
much.
For real, for real.

886
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,880
So well need no scary movie type
stuff going on out there.

887
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,400
Them slasher films in the 80s
didn't really didn't really do.

888
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,560
Well, either and you see what
I'm saying.

889
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,400
So yeah, but now man, that's
just that's the main thing, like

890
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,360
I said, just going back to
health and and and seeing these

891
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,840
kids on the on the field.
So I'll be excited just to see

892
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:50,000
what new numbers we see on the
field because we know that the

893
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:56,960
talent is there, we know that
feels, we know the talent that

894
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,800
we know the floor has been
lifted so we need to see how

895
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,720
high the ceiling is all.
Right.

896
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,880
So Brian, let's get to your
number 2 because that floor,

897
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:10,920
that ceiling, those skill
players, you, you mentioned me

898
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,600
and you talked about this the
other Thursday sitting in the

899
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,160
basement having a couple of
years after poker about how

900
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:19,920
excited you see this guy.
Yeah, man, it's got to be the

901
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:24,200
grunk show, right?
Like I, I feel like this is

902
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:28,200
something we haven't really seen
in a while, which is a, a

903
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,120
quarterback that can really spin
it has good accuracy,

904
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,880
understands how to work within
the framework of the offense,

905
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,440
can make all the throws.
We haven't really seen that type

906
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,320
of of talent in Blacksburg in a
while.

907
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,240
So I'm excited to see him go out
there and spend a little bit.

908
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,000
You know, when, when Hal's
talking about the offense and,

909
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,360
and like what the goal is, he
keeps saying explosive plays.

910
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,000
We're we're talking about
explosive plays.

911
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,120
So when you talk about explosive
plays, that's going to start

912
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,200
with being able to open up big
holes for your running back, but

913
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,160
it's also about your quarterback
being able to get shots down the

914
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:10,520
field or hit receivers when
they're open so they can catch

915
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,880
and run.
That's how you make big plays.

916
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,240
And being accurate and being
able to make all the throws,

917
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:19,400
that gives you a really good
start to creating those

918
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,760
explosive plays.
So I'm excited to see him go out

919
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,880
there and spin it.
And when you talk about a

920
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,080
quarterback that understands the
offense, it's not just just

921
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,280
making the throws, but it's
about knowing where to go with

922
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,920
the football quickly.
And that's one of the things

923
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,280
that we've struggled with at the
quarterback position for years

924
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:43,320
now is that even when the line
was giving them time, the ball

925
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,400
wasn't coming out quick enough
on a regular basis.

926
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,760
Or if it was coming out quick,
it wasn't always going to where

927
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,760
it needs to be.
And so when you have a

928
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,680
quarterback that knows what to
do and can get rid of the ball

929
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,200
quickly, that makes everything
else look better.

930
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,520
And if you can stay in front of
the sticks, that makes the

931
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,560
quarterback's job a whole lot
better as well.

932
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,040
So I'm excited to see Grunt go
out there and spend it.

933
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,920
I'm excited to see what this
offense is going to look like

934
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,360
with him kind of pulling the
trigger.

935
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,600
I think it's going to be
something that we haven't really

936
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,440
seen from a passing standpoint,
at least going back to Hendon

937
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,000
and maybe even further than
that.

938
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,440
So I'm looking forward to that
aspect.

939
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,360
And even though I know we're
going to get mostly kind of

940
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:31,000
Vadilla schemes in the offense,
I'm excited to see what they do

941
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,200
within that framework.
As he's finishing his blue

942
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,600
drink, there anything on Ethan
Grunt Meyer?

943
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,720
He's the guy he took the longest
to get into the.

944
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,920
I mean, I think he was one of
the first to commit, but one of

945
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,480
the last to actually be
official.

946
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,640
So I mean, he's the quarterback,
he's the guy that's who

947
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,400
everybody's coming to see.
You got to go.

948
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:56,360
Don't matter what he's done
anywhere else.

949
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,320
It don't matter.
It matters what you're doing.

950
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,840
Maroon and orange.
So we need to see what he's got.

951
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:06,720
We need to see legit quarterback
pay.

952
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:09,520
Look at Phil, man, Phil.
Phil is having a good time

953
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,120
tonight.
Hey man, Phil said.

954
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:16,280
Phil said let's start slow.
He just want 50% of the passes

955
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,240
completed.
He's stupid.

956
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,320
He said let's, let's, let's do
the little things first and then

957
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,080
we can get to the big things
100.

958
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,800
Percent.
I'm going to say this real quick

959
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:28,760
to kind of close it out and jump
over to mine.

960
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,680
I also want to see what the
three backups look like.

961
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:40,200
I want to see like, you know,
like going back a decade, me and

962
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:45,680
Brian, this was when I only had
one kid, and me and Brian went

963
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:49,200
to the first spring game of the
Fuente era and there was a

964
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:55,400
noticeable difference between
I'm blanking right now.

965
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,680
Why am I blanking on his name?
Quarterback.

966
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,040
There was a noticeable
difference in Gerard and every

967
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,480
other quarterback.
So why?

968
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,800
And I think Brian and clearly I
think with Ethan, we had seen

969
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,920
Ethan play at Penn State,
There's clearly going to be a

970
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,040
difference.
But what I want to see is of

971
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:20,920
those three and, and I'll let
Brian, even though he's going to

972
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,920
probably be about 7 or 8IN when
he gets to the stadium, I still

973
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,800
trust his knowledge to see when
so and so drops or when so and

974
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,960
so's arm goes.
It's different than the other

975
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,600
two.
That's probably going to be your

976
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,560
backup.
Now for me, my number 2 is

977
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,240
defensive line.
We started with the trenches

978
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,560
earlier.
I'm going to keep them rolling

979
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:44,200
right here.
I want to see size wise like

980
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,280
what Mensa looks like because
he's up above 3 right now.

981
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,200
I want to see what Hilson looks
like getting off the line.

982
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,200
And then I want to see if all
the hype that has been put

983
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,200
around Aysen Stevenson, I ain't
going to say Kamari Copeland

984
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,800
because I've seen Kamari
Copeland do it.

985
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,680
I know he can do it.
But all the hype that's been

986
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:08,040
around Aysen Stevenson, Jason
Stevens, is that going to come

987
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:11,560
to fruition during a real game
or kind of a real game or

988
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:16,000
however you want to say it?
But the reason I say that is if

989
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,520
you heard coach Franklin Park
last week, he wasn't talking

990
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,800
about him bending.
It sounds like what Shawn

991
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,680
Stevens has figured out is Ayson
Stevens is not a bend guy, but

992
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,960
he's a hold the edge bull rush
guy.

993
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,760
And, and, and again, you, you
start reading more about Spence

994
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,880
is, is he one of those guys?
Is that his goal?

995
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,920
Whatever type of ass rush you
are, that's what you need to do.

996
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,520
If you 6 foot 4270 and you can't
bend the edge with just a little

997
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,440
bit, go hold the edge for
running plays and bull rush guys

998
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,080
back into the lap of the
quarterback.

999
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,120
Don't do something you can't do
because you try to do that.

1000
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,800
It gets bad.
But I think there's just so many

1001
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,640
unknown, not unknown variables.
But it's just like to what you

1002
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,880
said a little earlier, which
I've said kind of all along, the

1003
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,560
floor has been raised just
because of the sheer amount of

1004
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:07,360
talent with these guys and their
size.

1005
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,480
So I'm looking forward to just
the D line.

1006
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,320
I'm just forward to seeing the
combinations.

1007
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,880
I'm looking forward to tally.
We, we, we got a little some

1008
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:26,120
anytime Tally gets on pry.
I'm trying to let him, little

1009
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,760
man.
I mean, I will, I will, I will

1010
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,360
say one thing on that because I
think, I think you hit, you hit

1011
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:32,920
the nail on the head and I, and
I'll make a little bit of a

1012
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,720
comparison for my baseball
folks.

1013
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,800
If you're a pitcher, how many
pitches do you really need to be

1014
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,600
successful?
You need 2 pitches.

1015
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,360
You need 2 pitches.
That's all you need to be

1016
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,720
successful.
So if if you are a pass rusher

1017
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:54,160
is very similar, you need to
have a go to and then you need

1018
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,760
to have some sort of change up.
You don't need anything else.

1019
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,120
You don't have to go, you don't
have to master a spin move.

1020
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,720
You don't have to bend the edge,
You don't have to bull or you

1021
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:08,000
don't have to have four or five
pass rush moves in your arsenal.

1022
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,600
You have to have one that you're
really good at and then

1023
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,160
something to change it up when
they start to adapt to what

1024
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,040
you're doing.
That's really all you need to

1025
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,240
do.
And if you can do that

1026
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,200
successfully and you can hold
the edge in the running game,

1027
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,880
you're going to probably play a,
a pretty good amount of snaps.

1028
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,760
Now, obviously we got a couple
other guys that that have come

1029
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,000
in from the portal that, that
might have something to say

1030
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,840
about that.
But you know, you, you

1031
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,960
definitely see Ace and Stevens
as being a guy that's going to

1032
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,160
be a big factor in the 2 deep
for sure.

1033
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:38,600
How?
Yeah.

1034
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,040
How about if you get in the
backfield against South Carolina

1035
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,040
and all you got to do is tackle
running back and you can't do

1036
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,280
that and he runs about 30 yards?
That, that's a, that's a move

1037
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,840
every DN needs to have.
They need to have the get the

1038
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,520
quarterback on his ass move.
That that's something that

1039
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:59,920
everyone has to have Tally.
You you you you threw us Brian's

1040
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,120
Brian mentions 2 pitches.
If you got a good fastball is

1041
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,080
great.
You.

1042
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,240
Threw a change up with what you
say the second thing you're

1043
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,080
looking at.
I think somebody said it earlier

1044
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:13,440
too in the in the chat.
I'd have to go back and look.

1045
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,800
Just talking about the, the
James Franklin effect, the

1046
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,160
production of what he brings.
You know what I'm saying?

1047
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,200
We've heard a lot about the
staff, the players, you know

1048
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,440
what he they want to fill the
stadium, all of this stuff.

1049
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:31,160
So I'm interested to see what
the production looks like, you

1050
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,040
know what I'm saying?
How they're interacting with

1051
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,920
fans.
Do they really?

1052
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,520
How many people show up?
You know, how they put the game

1053
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:44,200
on, just all of the different
things that go along with having

1054
01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,680
this new coach and a high
profile coach.

1055
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,920
You know, we've not had even,
you know, Frank was who he was

1056
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,160
at the end of his tenure because
everybody knows Frank because of

1057
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,800
what he did here.
But we haven't had a high

1058
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,520
profile coach as Franklin to
come in.

1059
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,480
You know, Fuente was a hot coach
when he came in.

1060
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,520
He wasn't as high profile as
James Franklin.

1061
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:12,840
So I'm interested to see what
the I'm interested to see what

1062
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,120
the, what the production looks
like, what everything, what, how

1063
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:18,160
they put on everything, you
know?

1064
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,360
Because he going to throw a
water bottle and get mad at

1065
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,880
somebody fuck up.
Yeah, man, I need to see like

1066
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,320
what the what the intensity
looks like from coaches, even

1067
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,880
though it's a spring game.
But again, this is their first

1068
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:33,000
time showing up to a lot of fans
because a lot of fans don't

1069
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:37,680
follow stuff like we do, you
know, just wasting your time

1070
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:41,640
each day paying attention to
practice clips or paying

1071
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,520
attention to interviews and
stuff like that.

1072
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,360
It just like, hey, I can't wait
for football season.

1073
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,080
I'm show up to the games, which
is cool.

1074
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,480
That's good.
I wish I could do that.

1075
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:55,120
My life would probably be so
much better if I would just,

1076
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,560
well, we would have to be
winning.

1077
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,960
But I'm just saying I'll, I'll
be interested to see kind of how

1078
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,440
he handles all of that stuff
because I think that's going to

1079
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,960
be a big thing of what we're
going to see in the season.

1080
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,240
You know what I'm saying?
It's going to be how the games

1081
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,840
are going to go in the season
and how the the staff is going

1082
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,120
to be during the season as well.
As silly as that sounds, just

1083
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,480
like when do they come out to
stretch?

1084
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,000
What do they do as far as prep
before the game?

1085
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,360
The other thing when you mention
this, my mind immediately went

1086
01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:27,080
to because it's going to happen
who's in the box for each side

1087
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,360
of the ball, like who's up top,
who's on the front, who's on the

1088
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,280
ground?
Because Tahal never being that

1089
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:38,000
primary guy, is he going to stay
down because he's always been

1090
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,360
down.
We know Brent pride if if it

1091
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,760
holds you fruition, he's always
called games from the field.

1092
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,640
He's never been up in the box.
Most defensive coordinators

1093
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,440
aren't.
So that's going to be the other

1094
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,440
thing interesting to see is
Brian gets his binoculars out,

1095
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,040
like across the field.
Like there's Brian, Chris, he's

1096
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,480
on the ground.
Anthony Midget's on the ground.

1097
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,960
Where's another new guy this
Spence?

1098
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,360
Brian's going to be over here
pointing out guys.

1099
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,080
Wow, That was just a couple
weeks ago.

1100
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,600
Yeah, that's good.
A lot of people down there for

1101
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,880
that weekend.
LeBron, Anything from what

1102
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,280
Tally's mentioning about the
production that that like right

1103
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,960
now hit you or when he threw
that to us a couple days ago

1104
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:24,480
like?
Yeah, I think like it's it's the

1105
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,760
nuances because I think I think
you're going to still have

1106
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:32,040
things that are distinctly
Virginia Tech, but like also

1107
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,600
what touches is Jane James
Franklin putting on it?

1108
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,880
You know, are we going to pack
Lane?

1109
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:40,200
I think that that's an
indication of the James Franklin

1110
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,320
effect as well.
Like if you're out there packing

1111
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:47,040
a stadium for a spring game,
that that tells you the James

1112
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:51,160
Franklin effect, like that right
there is telling you the James

1113
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,920
Franklin effect.
You know, somebody put in here

1114
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,160
about the, the parking
situation.

1115
01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,560
If there's a reason I'm showing
up to the tailgate at 8 for a,

1116
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:04,120
for a three PM kick for a spring
game, like I'm going to be there

1117
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,280
early because I'm, I'm
anticipating those spots going

1118
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:08,880
pretty quick.
Even up on Chicken Hill.

1119
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,000
I think it's going to be, you
know, you got to operate as this

1120
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:20,600
almost being a true game day
atmosphere, even though, you

1121
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,880
know, it's general parking, even
though it's general admission,

1122
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,600
like you got to still operate
under the fact that it's going

1123
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,640
to feel and look like a game day
experience.

1124
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,160
And I think, you know, when we
look at the production part of

1125
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,920
it, what's going to be
different?

1126
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,880
Are we going to, are we, are we
going to like, does this go all

1127
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:42,440
the way up to the music that's
played in the stadium during the

1128
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,520
music that's played during
warmups?

1129
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,760
Like I'm interested to see those
aspects as well.

1130
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:54,080
And and that that'll not
necessarily tell me things are

1131
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:57,000
different, but it it I think
it's certainly an indicator of

1132
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,920
this is James Franklin's show,
not the athletic department show

1133
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,760
with the head coach is.
That true?

1134
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,920
It's 100% true.
Like all that stuff, like all

1135
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:15,480
the stuff that happens Saturday,
it's for I think for a lot of

1136
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,800
us, it's like how many people
should because if you say 50,000

1137
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:22,600
should if it, if they pack out
of 65, that would be great.

1138
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:27,040
But like what you said, Brian,
and tell you mentioned it

1139
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,720
earlier about like when we're
talking about the old kind of

1140
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:32,960
regime moving out, finally
putting you guys in here, What

1141
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,320
is the music like?
Like, you know, the the question

1142
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,680
is, I know Brian, you're hip, so
you might know, but we'll we'll

1143
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,720
do you think that you are, you
are, you know, you know music.

1144
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,760
But what I'm saying is are there
going to be songs people have

1145
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:51,120
never heard?
But the kids in North End zone

1146
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,360
and all over the place and the
young people are going to be

1147
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:54,880
jacked about.
The players will be jacked

1148
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,840
about.
That's the stuff Tally's talking

1149
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,440
about and it's going to be
really interesting.

1150
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,400
All right, last thing, third
piece.

1151
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,760
I'm going to start off on this
one because it's been kind of

1152
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:10,000
we, we, we discussed safety room
a lot and now we just keep

1153
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,120
getting these mentions of well
knowledge.

1154
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,200
Harold was playing some safety,
IBM was playing some safety.

1155
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,040
So and so was playing Kenny
Woosley was playing some safety.

1156
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,200
Look at that right on time.
I see, but it's your time.

1157
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,240
We're seeing guys playing inside
and out.

1158
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,880
I'm interested to see that
rotation.

1159
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,960
I'm interested and I know it's
not all going to be laid out

1160
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:35,479
like a real game, but I want to
see who from the cornerback room

1161
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:39,760
goes out, who from that room
goes inside and out, who goes

1162
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:44,439
back to safety?
Because we we talked about the

1163
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,120
safety room was an issue.
They didn't get anybody.

1164
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:52,200
But with some of these guys they
brought in and other guys on the

1165
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,720
in the roster already.
Is that why they didn't?

1166
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:59,760
It's just like you know what, we
we got 3-4 guys who can easily

1167
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,200
go back and play a strong
safety.

1168
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:03,720
You know, we can easily get in
the nickel package and they can

1169
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,880
be that we can go to a three
look and these guys can do that.

1170
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:12,600
So I'm interested to see that
rotation from an aspect of is

1171
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,200
that why we didn't recruit
safeties?

1172
01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,880
Yeah.
I'm I'm interested in in seeing

1173
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:21,600
that as well because you know,
everything that we're hearing,

1174
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:27,200
it sounds like prize going to
have elements of the defense

1175
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:31,080
that was ran last year, at least
from a some safety look.

1176
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,880
It's not going to be his
traditional 43 look.

1177
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,800
It's going to be more of a, of a
of a hybrid potentially, you

1178
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:42,800
know, three safety look, but
it's still going to be, I think

1179
01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:46,319
the elements of of what he did
at Penn State are still going to

1180
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:50,000
be there.
So that that safety play is

1181
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,800
important that that rotation.
I think Curtis, you mentioned,

1182
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,960
you know, corner.
Corner has been, you know, we

1183
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,480
talked about it last year.
Corner was probably the second

1184
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:04,040
weakest position for us last
year outside of offensive line.

1185
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:08,040
You know, some of that had to do
with some some portal jumps

1186
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,640
after pry was let go and someone
had to do with a lot of other

1187
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,040
factors.
But your corner was a pretty

1188
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,720
weak position for us last year.
And when you combine that with

1189
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,640
inconsistent pass rush,
inability to get quarter on the

1190
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:26,680
quarterbacks on the ground and a
cornerback room that was

1191
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,920
somewhat in disarray, that was a
bad combination last year.

1192
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,360
And I feel like that's been
shored up this year.

1193
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,840
I'll let Tally jump in if he's
got anything before I go with my

1194
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:42,600
next my next one here.
No, man, I mean, look at Robbie.

1195
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,160
Hey, you know what I want to
say, don't you, Curtis?

1196
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,000
You can thank, you can thank
Chris Lester for the for the

1197
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,760
IBM.
Hey, all I'm going to say is

1198
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,320
Chris, don't let it happen,
buddy.

1199
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,400
Don't we want it to happen?
But Chris, when you watch this,

1200
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,720
don't let it happen, my friend.
I just got thrown off.

1201
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,160
Thanks, Robin.
Thanks.

1202
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,320
Robin, just do the curveball.
To you, Yeah.

1203
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:11,680
It just hit me under the
curveball.

1204
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,240
I don't even know what I'm, what
I'm thinking about.

1205
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,720
Maybe.
I'm talking about corners and

1206
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:19,440
safeties.
Corners and safeties, man, I'll

1207
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:20,920
be him.
I'll be him, man.

1208
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,480
We need to see what he got.
We need to see what he got this

1209
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:28,360
year, which I again going back
to those rooms.

1210
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:33,480
It is it Curtis was hitting me
up whenever all the, you know,

1211
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,600
transfer portal and everything
was going on like when you take

1212
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:37,880
no safeties.
What's going on?

1213
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,040
So, Rob.
Was really mad about it.

1214
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,920
Rob kept screaming.
We got a spot.

1215
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,240
Yeah, yeah.
Good woman.

1216
01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,040
What are we doing here?
You know what I'm saying?

1217
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:49,760
So I am interested to see like
what kind of moving around

1218
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,800
they're doing because there's a
lot of talent on the back end.

1219
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,480
It's just young.
But who takes that step to get

1220
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:01,040
on the field?
You know, this is the first step

1221
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:05,040
that we see somebody take a step
to be like, OK, well, maybe we

1222
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:07,840
see him get on the field because
you started to see certain

1223
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:12,040
stuff, you know, in past spring
games at positions like that.

1224
01:12:12,440 --> 01:12:15,880
Even in the spring game, you
could see like, Josh Clark, you

1225
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,600
know, was a little bit more
developed than some of the other

1226
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,120
people that came in with him.
Then he gets hurt.

1227
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:29,120
So yeah, man, I'm excited.
I'm excited just to just to see

1228
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,920
who steps on the field and ain't
got a what's the hurt jersey

1229
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,840
Brian?
What is it blue or yellow?

1230
01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,720
Red.
Yeah, blue who don't got no blue

1231
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,520
jerseys on.
That's what we need to see all.

1232
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:47,320
Right, Brian, I know you got.
A a yeah, I'll jump in next

1233
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,840
because you know the one.
Yeah, this is kind of a little

1234
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:54,440
bit of a of a playoff of off of
Curtis's a little bit.

1235
01:12:54,440 --> 01:12:59,080
And you know, to to another
point, you know, we're we're

1236
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,480
going to talk about a little bit
yet another one and you want to

1237
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:04,120
see the secondary, you want to
see linebacker.

1238
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,280
So we'll talk about linebacker
in in safety here in particular

1239
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,600
and kind of the interplay
between those positions because

1240
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:16,080
you know, when you talk about a,
you know, potentially A3 safety,

1241
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:20,800
look, you talk about linebacker
play, there's going to be a lot

1242
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:25,880
of interplay between safety and
linebacker, lot of run respond,

1243
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,160
run support responsibility in
there.

1244
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,080
So I'm interested to see how
that works because that's

1245
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:34,160
definitely been something that
we have struggled with the last

1246
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:38,080
few years is, you know, we had
this big run where the

1247
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,680
linebackers weren't getting
getting the right gap.

1248
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,720
We had some these are some
hanging fit situations with some

1249
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,920
of those those players coming up
in in run support there.

1250
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:54,800
And there was a lot of big
plays, big run plays that kind

1251
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:57,160
of came off of that.
And and that was a that was a

1252
01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:01,360
pretty big problem.
Some I'm interested to see with

1253
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,360
you, a mostly veteran linebacker
room, even though it's still a

1254
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:10,480
little young and some spots
there in a in a somewhat young

1255
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:14,080
safety room, with the exception
of of Q Reddish there.

1256
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,720
I think, you know, you look at
that.

1257
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:20,400
I want to see how that works.
Is that looking a lot better

1258
01:14:20,440 --> 01:14:22,600
than what we've seen kind of the
last three seasons?

1259
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,640
Yeah, it it it will be
interesting to see how they work

1260
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,000
together, what that room just
looks like in general because

1261
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,440
of, you know, prize the coach
now.

1262
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,000
I mean, So what you want to say
0 excuses?

1263
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:43,280
It is yours right now.
All right, Tally, I know you got

1264
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,760
one more thing.
Tally's one big last thing.

1265
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,560
Well, I don't know how I feel
about that.

1266
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:55,720
Yeah.
No comment.

1267
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,400
No comment on that when you
return.

1268
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,920
We had a very, we, we were
number one in returning

1269
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,520
production two years ago.
When we saw how that worked out,

1270
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,440
immediately Vanderbilt kicked us
in the ass and that returning

1271
01:15:08,440 --> 01:15:10,120
production didn't matter so much
anymore.

1272
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:16,560
So I, I think it's something to,
to look at as you've got guys

1273
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,680
that have done it that have a
lot of snaps.

1274
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:21,880
So you, you, you get it from
that perspective.

1275
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:26,760
And you're hoping that Franklin
and all the other guys on the

1276
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:31,400
staff are leveling that up
because while the returning

1277
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,160
production is good, a lot of it
wasn't up to the level that we

1278
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,600
needed to win last year.
So if they're not leveling up or

1279
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,120
we don't have guys that are
coming in or challenging below

1280
01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:45,120
them to make them better or
jumping them on the depth chart,

1281
01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:48,280
then that returning production
doesn't matter quite as much.

1282
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,960
What I will say a little bit
different than what we've had in

1283
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,680
the past, which we all noticed,
we got to go real deep into it.

1284
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:59,120
You got Watchmen watching the
Watchmen now, you know what I'm

1285
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,600
saying.
You got offensive line coach,

1286
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:07,560
assistant, offensive line coach,
assistant to the assistant in

1287
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:14,080
the weight room.
You got each group has a coach

1288
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,160
watching them.
It's not one guy, you know what

1289
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,840
I'm saying?
So that I think that's going to

1290
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:25,880
play the staff additions is
going to play a big role in what

1291
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,400
the team can do because you're
going to have more eyes on

1292
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,800
certain groups and they got an
answer to more people.

1293
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:34,720
You know, this guy's got to
answer this guy.

1294
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,080
This guy's got to answer checks
and balance system.

1295
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,720
So I think you're going to see
more guys like, hey, he ain't

1296
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,720
getting it done.
What's going on with him?

1297
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,760
He say his foot hurt.
OK, go with the next guy.

1298
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,400
You know what I'm saying?
I think you'll see more of that

1299
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,480
stuff.
So I think the returning

1300
01:16:48,480 --> 01:16:54,360
production thing will help this
year because you'll have a staff

1301
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,160
that's more attentive than prize
staff.

1302
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:05,120
But back to what Curtis asked
just with my my final point to

1303
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:09,320
make on the spring game kind of
puts a bow on everything for me

1304
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:13,360
is the optics of the spring game
and the residual of what you get

1305
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:17,240
from that.
Because what is the spring game

1306
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,320
like?
What, what, why do you have a

1307
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,400
spring game?
You, you, you want to, you want

1308
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:27,040
to evaluate where your team is.
You want to you just got married

1309
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:28,760
and you're throwing a dinner
party.

1310
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:30,840
You just got married and moved
into a new house and you're

1311
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,240
throwing a dinner party.
You want to show off your house,

1312
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,560
show off your wife or husband,
whatever you decided to marry at

1313
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:42,320
that point, we don't judge.
So now you're showing that off

1314
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,480
and you want everybody to
perceive it in a in a in the the

1315
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,960
right fashion.
So what kind of recruits are

1316
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,480
going to be at this game?
What caliber recruits are going

1317
01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:56,280
to be at this game?
What kind of recruits do you get

1318
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,320
to commit?
Because they came to this game

1319
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,720
and seen the atmosphere, you
know what I'm saying?

1320
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,520
What kind of atmosphere will the
fans have?

1321
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,040
Are they down on the program?
Are they feeling good about the

1322
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,200
new regime?
I'm going to be interested to

1323
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:15,600
see the residuals of what that
game brings more than like the

1324
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,560
results of what happens on the
field.

1325
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:22,760
Because we know none of that
really matters, but what really

1326
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:26,440
matters is the things that we
can see if Brian comes back or

1327
01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:30,320
next week, shameless plug when
y'all call in because we will be

1328
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:34,840
having a call in show after the
game next week when y'all call

1329
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,040
in and tell me and Curtis about
how great it was and the

1330
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,520
atmosphere was electric and.
Y'all rubbing it in like Brian's

1331
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,600
going to be.
Yeah, that's what, that's what I

1332
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,280
want to know.
That's what I want to know.

1333
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,880
I want to know what is the vibe,
You know what I'm saying?

1334
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:54,600
That kind of sounds kiddish, but
what is the vibe that you got

1335
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,880
when you was at the game?
Because that's what this is

1336
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,000
about.
That's what Franklin's been

1337
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,400
pumping, that he wants this
thing sold out.

1338
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,920
Why do you want it sold out?
You don't want you don't want it

1339
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,720
sold out to to show some shit,
right?

1340
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,240
You know what I'm saying?
So I want to know what the vibes

1341
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,160
is going to be.
I want to know what the residual

1342
01:19:16,160 --> 01:19:18,720
is going to show up.
Like how many commits can we get

1343
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,400
from that?
How many recruits are going to

1344
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,400
show up?
Where are they coming from?

1345
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:26,320
So we got a lot riding on it for
a spring game for us.

1346
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,960
We got a lot riding on.
And if we know anything about

1347
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,400
James Franklin, he is going to
bring media to him.

1348
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,280
You damn it.
There's going to be some

1349
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,080
national people going to be
covering it.

1350
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,320
They're going to want to see
what Virginia Tech looks like.

1351
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,120
They're going to see all James
Franklin's first time running

1352
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:46,800
out to in a Sandman.
So yes, Robbie, it will be

1353
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,440
televised.
Curtis, what you said was it,

1354
01:19:49,440 --> 01:19:52,280
it's.
Going to be ACC Extra Network,

1355
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:57,280
ACCXN, so if you've got Hulu or
you got ESPN out, it'll be there

1356
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,760
at 3:00.
Look who is joining us.

1357
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,320
From the West Coast.
They said Nova.

1358
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,000
I was going.
To.

1359
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,520
Put that up there too, because
we we.

1360
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:14,120
We got to talk about it, man,
because I still in tally, you

1361
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,320
could probably talk like you've
got the city of Nashville.

1362
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:21,680
That's like one of the best
cities probably in the country

1363
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:27,120
for like going out and celebrate
something and you get, you know,

1364
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,880
a a lovely night before that.
Everybody's high, everybody's

1365
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,320
doing their thing, everybody's
excited for the season.

1366
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:36,760
And then you go and watch that
three hours stomach ache and

1367
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,400
it's enough to not even want to
like you got all this stuff at

1368
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:40,920
your disposal.
You're like, I don't even feel

1369
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,080
like going out and doing
anything.

1370
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,040
Let's go back to, all right,
Brian, since you want to do this

1371
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:46,600
to me.
We didn't have to do this, but

1372
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:50,560
that's what you want to do,
Grace, and you want to talk

1373
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,880
about that.
So let's go back and talk about

1374
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:55,200
it.
Like you said, great night out.

1375
01:20:56,440 --> 01:21:01,680
Yeah, yeah, great night out.
You know, you go out, have some

1376
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,320
drinks, chill with your people,
take some pictures.

1377
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,320
I have people downtown Nashville
hollering them.

1378
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,800
Hey, Tally, what's up, man?
Where's Brian?

1379
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,800
Where's Curtis?
You know, we got people all over

1380
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,520
that watch the show.
I'm getting to meet.

1381
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,800
Cool night out, man, great night
out.

1382
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,320
I was by myself.
My wife ended up getting COVID

1383
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:23,200
and couldn't go with me.
So I was by myself, had the

1384
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,760
hotel room by myself.
I was in there sleeping naked,

1385
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,560
snoring, all of that good stuff,
You know what I'm saying?

1386
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:33,440
Had a great night, right?
You go to the game, tailgate,

1387
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:36,320
great, everybody's together.
We still taking pictures, high

1388
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,400
five and oh man, we going to put
the world on notice.

1389
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,240
Beat this SEC team.
It's going to be great.

1390
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,600
Half the stadium is under
construction.

1391
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:47,720
You can't go around certain
ways.

1392
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,480
You got to go the other way,
which was some BS.

1393
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:55,200
You get in the game and it's
like 1000°.

1394
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,360
I'm pretty sure somebody had a
heat stroke.

1395
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,440
Like somebody walked a couple
people walking to the car.

1396
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,160
So we got people having heat
strokes.

1397
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:11,520
Not only did we lose the game,
we were getting beat and I was

1398
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,520
like, OK, well, it's over.
You know, again, we laid an egg.

1399
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,400
No, no, no, no, no.
We wanted to come back and hang

1400
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,480
around and make us think we can
win.

1401
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,640
You know, we can feel like we
got an opportunity to to win

1402
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,840
this game.
And then what do we do?

1403
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:32,280
And true, the penny tech
fashion, we lose a heartbreaker

1404
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:36,640
in overtime.
In overtime, that's what

1405
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:42,680
happened in in Nashville.
Like Brian said, one of the

1406
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,200
greatest cities in America to go
out and have a good time.

1407
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:49,680
Who want to go out after that?
I didn't want to go out.

1408
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,200
I met Chris.
I was like, Chris, I don't

1409
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,440
really want to see you because I
just want to go.

1410
01:22:56,480 --> 01:22:59,240
I want to go home.
I wanted to get in my car and

1411
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:01,160
drive home.
It was about it's only. 2 1/2

1412
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,440
hours you could have.
I wanted to get in my car and

1413
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:06,000
drive home, but I had already
paid for that hotel room.

1414
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:08,240
So I met Chris.
We went and got something to

1415
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:09,480
eat.
I think we ate a little Mexican

1416
01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:11,680
restaurant.
Didn't even want to talk about

1417
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:16,520
the game because it was a
horrible day and horrible night

1418
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,280
because of what happened during
that game.

1419
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,760
And Brian, I put that out of my
mind.

1420
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:22,960
It was two years ago and you
brought it back up.

1421
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,040
Hey, man, I, I, I mentioned it
just a little bit.

1422
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,720
Grayson threw it out there.
And I mean, and to his point, I

1423
01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:35,080
mean, it was that was one of the
worst game experiences I've ever

1424
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:40,920
had from a stadium standpoint, a
heat standpoint and an outcome

1425
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,560
standpoint, like all of it was.
Bad.

1426
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,480
Curtis absolutely all of it.
Why we why we own it.

1427
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,520
What is the worst game you've
ever attended?

1428
01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:54,840
The worst game I've ever
detected like.

1429
01:23:54,960 --> 01:24:03,920
You feeling like just drained
when you left 2014 Georgia?

1430
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:09,080
Tech Fuqua, who has went come on
a couple times, talked wrestling

1431
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,760
me and him drove up for the day,
good seats.

1432
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,520
That's when like had the kind of
game under control or was

1433
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:21,080
driving and remember brewing
through that interception was on

1434
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,040
the out route like we were
driving probably we score a

1435
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:27,680
touchdown, we win and we turn it
over right there.

1436
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,600
Paul Johnson gets it.
We don't ever touch the ball

1437
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:33,360
again.
And we could hear we were

1438
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,080
walking underneath North End
zone like that.

1439
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:38,200
That was one of the only times
I've ever left the game where it

1440
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,760
wasn't a blowout and the game
was still going on.

1441
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:43,360
I mean, we heard the final
whistle as we were walking

1442
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,560
through North End zone.
That was the worst game because

1443
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:51,480
we should have won that game.
We should have won that game.

1444
01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:55,240
Not even Purdue, although Purdue
makes me mad, but Georgia Tech,

1445
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:05,040
that one back in 2014 hit hard,
you know, because you because

1446
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:10,440
you know, you're sitting there.
And again, it was just you.

1447
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,160
You lost that field goal when
you could have easily won that

1448
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,680
game.
Thinking about all the

1449
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:19,400
heartaches.
Look at everybody, Ted.

1450
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:20,560
Go ahead and put them in here,
man.

1451
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:21,800
Put them in here.
What's?

1452
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:25,920
Going on, put them.
In experience, I'll tell y'all

1453
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,200
mine while we own it.
One of them.

1454
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:29,680
Hold on, hold on, let's hit a
couple here.

1455
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:34,120
So the Michigan game, well, I
don't know, National

1456
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:35,840
championship is just different
though.

1457
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:40,600
I mean, that's a different feel.
I remember that I I wasn't

1458
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,160
there, but I don't remember this
watching this one.

1459
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,280
Tyler, look up.
What we got, probably.

1460
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,240
Was at the BTECU game down at
Charlotte that one it was like

1461
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:54,560
1310.
Robin said he had heat stroke

1462
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,840
there, too.
I didn't want it in Nashville

1463
01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:57,480
all.
Right.

1464
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,160
So Nashville wasn't the worst.
What was the worst?

1465
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,480
Nashville was pretty bad, but I
think the worst that I've ever

1466
01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:06,080
felt leaving the Virginia Tech
game.

1467
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:11,600
I think it was 2019.
Duke versus Virginia Tech in

1468
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,400
black.
Well, you went to the Friday

1469
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:14,680
game.
It was.

1470
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:16,480
It was bad.
Let me tell you how bad that

1471
01:26:16,480 --> 01:26:18,640
was, Curtis.
Let me tell you how bad that

1472
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,880
well first.
Of all, you have never discerned

1473
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,160
that you went to that game.
Yeah, I want to.

1474
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,520
I don't want to talk about it.
That's how bad it was.

1475
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:30,720
We have known you for six years
now and you have never disclosed

1476
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,280
this until.
That's the game they ran.

1477
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:32,920
The fake.
Maybe we.

1478
01:26:32,920 --> 01:26:36,520
Were drunk, you did, but.
That's the game.

1479
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,080
They ran the fake field on us,
right?

1480
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,000
They destroyed us.
They beat our asses on that

1481
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,320
Friday night.
It wasn't even the game.

1482
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,720
Yeah, so I went so I went hung
out with my whenever I tell you

1483
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:51,000
I went to I stayed in Princeton,
WV for that game.

1484
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,560
So I went in whenever I talk
about being in West Virginia,

1485
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:58,680
which is a not a not nowhere
that I need to be visiting.

1486
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,560
I went to go visit my boy Mike.
Big drink if y'all don't know.

1487
01:27:03,560 --> 01:27:04,480
Him.
I know, Big drink.

1488
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:08,520
So yeah, so I went to visit him.
We rode to the game together and

1489
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:13,800
that game was so bad.
Mike, he was driving and we

1490
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:17,200
drove back to Mason.
He would not turn on the radio,

1491
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:21,600
he wouldn't turn on the air, the
heat windows down and nobody

1492
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,080
could speak.
We just was riding in silence

1493
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,720
all the way back home.
That's how bad it was.

1494
01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:29,880
It was horrible.
It was just the feeling because

1495
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:33,760
you knew right then I think we
may have been like 2 and 1 going

1496
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:38,320
into that game or somewhere, but
you knew that the wheels had

1497
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,120
fallen off.
You knew it was at that point it

1498
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,760
was done like it's nothing.
We, we, we don't got nothing,

1499
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,880
you know what I'm saying?
It was pitiful.

1500
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,520
Look at Phil throwing this one.
Up Oh, they throwing them all

1501
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,840
up.
Look at this, look at this, look

1502
01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:55,200
at this, look at.
Look how we feeling.

1503
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:59,800
Man, we need some.
We need some deep cuts here bro.

1504
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,720
We need some new memories, some
new good memories.

1505
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:04,000
We do.
You know what?

1506
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,560
You said we got to get some new
good.

1507
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:10,480
Memories, by the way.
Nobody ever needs to visit me.

1508
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,000
I was there.
I was there, Robin, and I felt

1509
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,240
like, listen, man, I'm from
Alabama and I've looked like

1510
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,720
this my whole life.
So.

1511
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:23,720
I've been in some tough spots
but Princeton WV had me

1512
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:28,920
questioned and like are they
going to butt rap me?

1513
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,160
What's about to happen?
What's about?

1514
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:36,080
To happen.
And I walked in a Walmart.

1515
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,440
You know how Walmart be?
You know what I'm saying?

1516
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:43,000
You run into some people in
Walmart and you have no shoes

1517
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,640
on, no teeth.
Man, you see, you see all types

1518
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,240
of folks and then.
Back with Mohawks, all type of

1519
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,120
stuff.
You do that.

1520
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,480
Yeah, it was great.
But that game, that Duke game,

1521
01:28:54,800 --> 01:28:58,720
the way I feel, I left for
jeans.

1522
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:04,640
That and Duke in 2019.
I kind of didn't want to be a

1523
01:29:04,640 --> 01:29:06,120
Virginia Tech fan no more after
that.

1524
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:10,200
I really thought about coming
home and buying an Auburn hat,

1525
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,760
but you didn't, sorry.
And somehow you stuck with it.

1526
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,920
Somehow you stuck with it.
Stuck with it.

1527
01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:20,640
Blood for punishment man.
I'm just stick with it.

1528
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,360
We want that might be a
summertime episode to get like

1529
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:30,040
bring people on and let them
share the miserable experiences

1530
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:32,920
because we've all we've all,
we've all felt them.

1531
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:37,440
So this is a, this is a good
night, but hopefully there's

1532
01:29:37,440 --> 01:29:43,760
more good memories in the future
because Lord knows what we went

1533
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,200
through roughly the last 10
years.

1534
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:53,840
Come on, Lord, please, please,
like just like 3 good seasons,

1535
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,520
just just three good seasons.
That's all I'm asking for.

1536
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,000
Lord, I know I can't stay here,
for I know I ain't going to stay

1537
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,600
here forever.
But while I'm here, just let me

1538
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:03,160
see some good Virginia Tech
football.

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We got spoiled.
We got spoiled.

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01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,680
All righty.
Anything breaking did.

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01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,720
Did James Franklin retweet that?
He's going to follow my format.

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I seen that come across the
board.

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01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:19,120
Not yet, all right.
He's paying attention clearly,

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01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:21,920
all right.
But with that being said,

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appreciate y'all in the chat
tonight.

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01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:25,960
Appreciate everybody for
listening.

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01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:30,080
And that wrap up this episode of
the Boundary Corner Podcast

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brought to you by Moments on
Memorial in Lexington.

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01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,920
I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Siegler.

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01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:39,960
Jonathan Talley.
Visit boundarycornerbt.com to

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01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,680
listen to all of our episodes.
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01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:46,040
Follow us everywhere you can,
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01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:49,440
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01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:52,400
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01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,280
Jason Long play us in play us
out.

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01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:57,840
Check him out at his website
jasonlongmusic.com where you can

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01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:01,320
link to all of his music on
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1558
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,960
Facebook pages.
Also check out where he is

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01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,880
playing live in and around the
Roanoke area.

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01:31:07,240 --> 01:31:09,280
We appreciate.
Thank you all for listening.

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And as always, let's go.

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