Old Demons Haunt Hokies

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast Braun.

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This is a waste of night.
Yes it is sir.

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Yes it is man.
Along with Brian Sigler Curtis

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welcome here, y'all.
Oh, y'all about to get some

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venting.
We got beverages.

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It's been approximately going on
for hours since the Hokies fall

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through the Demon Deacons 23:16.
And as I just stated in a wasted

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day now, wasting game.
Absolutely dude.

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Really a frustrating game to
watch?

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This wasn't?
I mean, we're not going to do a

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whole lot of x's and o's because
watching the game, it wasn't a

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whole lot of x's.
And o's, that beat us, we were

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out there.
Consistently beating ourselves,

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especially on the offensive side
of the ball.

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Yeah, absolutely.
So many things today, so many

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wasted opportunities.
So many a pending grossly picks

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today, arguably probably the
worst game of his career as a

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Hopi.
Yeah, I don't think there's

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really a question.
I mean, the UVA game was the

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only other game that's even in
this realm, in my opinion, in

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terms of how he how he played,
and he was significantly worse.

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In this game that I think he was
a TV.

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A against UVA, there were more
periods of of inconsistency.

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Whereas I felt like you know, he
did really well middle of the

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field and like as soon as we got
close to scoring range and just

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seem like, you know, the light
bulb went off a lot of times and

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play guide inconsistent and you
know, he wasn't helped a whole

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lot by some of the calls we got
in that area either.

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So it was kind of just one kept
feeding the other tonight man.

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Well Play calls.
Can I can I get into a place to

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play call that?
If I had not been with my

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neighbors and they're giving our
kids out in his yard, we pull

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the TV up or watching it,
they're both hokey grad.

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Shout out to Ben and Michelle
for having us in the kids over

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to watch the game.
He's pretty calm watching game.

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Been tip your hat to you when
you not once not one time, but

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who comes inside the 10-yard
line.

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You run a Jet Sweep, through the
fucking short side of the field.

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What the fuck are you thinking?
I like it.

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I like the fire because that's
what we're going to need to get

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back from this man because this
was you know, everybody talks

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about it.
I mean whether your Twitter

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timeline, your friends.
I mean we all know the Hokies

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are going to have that one game.
Where they go out, played down

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to their competition.
Make some freaking

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head-scratching calls.
Can't get out of their own damn

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way.
And then, you know, a lot of

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times that ends up as a loss.
And that's what we had tonight,

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man.
It was, it was sad because there

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were so many opportunities to
get back in that game.

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And none of, I mean, wake wasn't
out there videos.

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I mean, they play the solid
game, and they played a pretty

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mistake-free game, and that's
why they beat us.

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But we can get out of our own
way, whether it was all of the

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miscues on offense, and whether
it was on defense, He's just

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undisciplined.
And I don't I'm not talking

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about just scheme was that was
more the early part of the game,

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but in the second half just
being undisciplined and giving

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them free first downs.
I'm making some bonehead

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decisions.
Absolutely,

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you saw that, right?
And it's just I mean at least

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the defense, you know, they had
their good in their bed.

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Yeah.
Which we expecting this year,

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with the scheme change they only
gave up 23 points.

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You told me and you won't Friday
or Thursday night.

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Thanksgiving 23.
As we were sitting here, talking

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Thursday night, we met Taylor
Robinson, our number three guy,

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right?
Let me pay.

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Or number three guy, we met
tendon number two.

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And you talked about, they like
to stay in their shells.

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They're very disciplined.
You're going to have to attack

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them underneath little short
throws.

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They're going to direct the
tackling team so you can get 56

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yards.
You stir stick, movers movers,

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we averaged 14, 13 Completion.
That doesn't sound like a stick

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moving kind of data.
Me know like out the gate our

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offensive game plan was
apparently run outside to a team

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that sets a really good Edge and
throw deep down the sideline to

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a team that allows a lot of
underneath stuff in coverage.

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So yeah, we definitely were
essentially saying, We think

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we're good enough to attack your
strength all day and not take

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advantage of your weakness.
Meanwhile not executing the

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plays that are that are even
being sent in half the time so

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you know you can bind those
things and you know it just

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feels like you know it's kind of
the trifecta man.

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We talked about it before but
it's like it didn't feel like we

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were properly prepared to play
this team especially on offense.

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It didn't feel like we were
properly executed.

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Eating.
And at times, it just looked

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like we were lost like we like
we didn't know like once we move

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the ball into a scoring area, we
just forgot what we were doing.

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And I've never, I haven't seen
that from this team.

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This year, we've done very good
at finishing drives, even even

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when we kick three, sometimes we
did a good job of closing

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drives.
Making some big plays out of

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nothing and it just seemed like
we let little things bother us

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too much like one little thing
goes wrong.

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Wrong.
And all of a sudden, you know,

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we've got three straight plays
that are either negative or

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don't get us the yards.
We need to keep moving.

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Absolutely, right.
I said one skiing thing off.

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Instantly, let me ask you this.
Let's do one said Thursday night

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that do really well.
They set the edge.

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Well, ma'am.
And what did you say?

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We should attack the middle of
the defense.

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What a good, what to do on
offense?

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We decided to attack the
perimeter of the defense, all

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night, both in the jet Suite
game and outside Zone.

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We decided for whatever reason
that, you know, once once we

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realize that they were setting a
very strong edge with the

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outside Zone that we just kept
running it, instead of maybe

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pivoting two more inside Zone
where we could really attack

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between the tackles neutralized,
bash them, a little bit,

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neutralize those outside
linebackers.

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I mean there every time for like
the first few drives, every time

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it was a obvious Rush down.
They were just run blitzing to

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the side opposite of where
Herbert was lining up knowing

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that he was going to run outside
Zone that direction.

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So if he was to the left of
hooker, they were running some

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sort of run blitz to the right
of hooker and just pressing that

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area.
And it took too long for us to

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adjust and say, alright well
maybe we should start making

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that a true read instead of a
just the outside Zone call.

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And once he did that, that's
when hooker got some of those

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those rushing yards late in the
second quarter into the third

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quarter, but we didn't do it
quick enough.

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And then once we found that,
that's what they were doing, we

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didn't stay with it.
Well enough to really do

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anything there but it was like
once the outside Zone wasn't

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working and you know we threw a
couple screens to him but we

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didn't do anything else to get
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game at that point like it was
like, oh well outside zones not

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working.
So I guess we're going to lean

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on Booker now like no
manufacture this guy, some

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touches but just stop running
into them, strength of the

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defense, got running to
strengthen defense, and let's

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make the number 8.
You didn't get his name and we

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still don't have his name.
You mentioned number eight, the

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linebacker on Thursday about get
to him, guess what you do.

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He cannot shed block, while you
were so focused on the inside

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the phone and putting Brockett.
Number one, if we ended up, we

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need up running away from him,
most of the night.

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Right?
So, he was unblocked and

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trailing the play, which for an
athletic guy.

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Is exactly what plays into what
he does.

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The best.
What he doesn't do well is shed

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blocks, run at him, make him
shed a block.

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Making sure to bought.
No, no.

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We just gonna let him run run
free on the backside and make

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plays while we set the edge on
the opposite side.

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I mean we knew what we were
getting with Boogie bash on but

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we can't let somebody that could
be neutralized, make plays

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absolutely.
So you run to one of the four

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points in one of the first times
in it.

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It's when I started getting that
hit that ugly feeling in my

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stomach.
We get near Midfield at first

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third down and its third like
one or two.

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So it shortened well I'm like
guess good.

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We're going to we're going to
get two or three yards, they run

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the ball and somehow James
Mitchell, love them to death.

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Great player potential future
probe into all-acc selection,

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right?
Trying to block Boogie bash.

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Mm, and I'm sitting here saying
every now and then I said it's

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okay.
and you did that and it was

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again, it was another outside
Zone and I mean he He kind of

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did a little little hump move
with with Mitchell, guided got

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inside.
And I mean, blue, the play up

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before really got a chance to
get going.

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And I mean, that was kind of the
story of the night.

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I mean, I think Basham had a
good game but like we didn't

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scheme to really take him out of
the game.

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And we kind of schemed in a way
that gave some of their other

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players, an easier night than
they should have had what we

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should have been.
We should have been Forcing

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their linebackers in safeties
with some underneath and some

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easy throat to make tackles
against re-tape.

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Ian Mitchell against herbivory
and Flash, but we didn't do

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that.
We have to do that.

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The only player that was
consistently getting to the

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second level in the running game
was hidden hooker.

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We weren't doing anything to get
Herbert to the second level.

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There was only I mean we had one
good run by by Herbert that

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callback on a hold which was all
the bogus and what we will get.

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The referee situation later that
was a problem tonight, but

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that's not what losses, this
game.

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No.
So we'll go ahead and get that

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out of the way.
I know, I know there are some

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folks that are complaining about
the referee situation to their

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point.
They are, right?

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But that didn't cost us the
game.

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We shot ourselves in the foot
and then there was no way.

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It should have.
We should have let the referees

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impact that game and ultimately
we did.

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And that's why we lost.
So we were moving the All, yes,

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that's that's the frustrating
thing is that, you know, we're

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only, you know, 40 or 50 yards
behind our, our season average

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in the game.
But we're 20 plus points behind

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our season average in scoring.
That's, that's significant guys.

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You're talking about, you're
talking about less than one

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decent Drive in total yards
behind our season average.

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But significantly lower, Our in
terms of the points that we put

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on the board that tells me a lot
of things, I mean, we've already

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said it once, but holy shit, the
amount of points that were left

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on this football field by this
offense.

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And that's, that's, I mean,
we'll talk about the two missed

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field goals.
One probably should have been a

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make that wasn't the other was
going to be a difficult make

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anyway.
So I mean that, that is what it

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is.
You're not, you're not going to

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make all those 50 plus yarders.
So, I'll let the one slide.

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The other one probably should
have been a make.

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So that's that's at least three
there.

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Two times getting inside the Red
Zone.

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And not, not just punching it in
is, is so sorry. 3 times, 3

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times getting so two times
settling for a short three and

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then one time throwing a pic,
which I mean, was partially on

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hooker and partially, on the
receiver.

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There, we, it was a little high.
But we gotta, we gotta talk to

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Hooker a little bit here because
all day when he was throwing

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over the middle, he was missing
high and you can't miss high

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over the middle.
That's that's the cardinal sin

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of quarterbacking.
Well, hold on.

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Was it too?
Was it three or was it for Hold

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on.
Was it for another one?

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Well, there was two picks in the
end zone, right?

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No, no, just one.
There was just the one, pick the

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little yoga through the seam on
the other theme on one, but that

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was that word in the end zone
though.

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The other, but we weren't in the
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thing that I'll say and this
again, this makes me mad at

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happen in the UNC game and it's
happening again here tonight.

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So once again, I put this on the
person calling the place and

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then he's going to get bust a
lot and I bust him a lot and I

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probably busted Stein spring way
too much back in the day.

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This is a 10-point game and we
get the ball and it's like I

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think it's six minutes left.
I'd have to go back and look.

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But there was no urgency.
We got this, we got this.

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Do we end up to and we're
downtown?

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Where is the urgency to get
going?

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And I'm sitting here that's on
the coaches.

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That's not only on the play
caller, that's on the head coach

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because if the head coach is not
seen the urgency, you need to be

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streaming like get on your asses
and go have enough time to get

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this ball three times.
We have two possessions left.

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Now, I want to say we it was it
was like 8:30 left and then we

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just need a few texts.
I thought you texted me and

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said, we need to score within
two minutes and it just wasn't

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happening.
Hold on.

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I'm gonna get you on here
because I, this is the one

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that's the one, that drove me,
crazy.

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And I do have all scoring please
up because we kicked a field

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goal.
Tom nails like a 50-yarder.

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He was already redeemed of the
previous drive.

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He missed, he missed.
He came back and made the one

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that Drive.
Exactly.

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So here we go.
And I might be talking about the

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previous drive when I was
referencing the there's five

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minutes left on the positive.
There's five minutes left on the

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clock.
It literally took us two and a

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half minutes.
You could gay to kick a field

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goal to a half minutes to go.
What is that?

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54-yard field goal will be what
35-yard line ruff.

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Flee.
Yep, it literally took us.

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Let's see 22 to go 35 yard.
It took us two and a half

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minutes.
That's all that's still go to 1.

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This is on you because if you're
not lying to fire under the play

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collars s and under that offense
is asked to get going, it's on

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you.
At some point, you got to say,

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guys, what are you doing?
Get this right, get going, get

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down the field.
I mean you know not everything

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can be put on the players at
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The coach has to be cognizant of
the situation and understand

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that, you know, There's no,
there's no there isn't a way of

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doing this faster than it should
be done.

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You got to get up there and do
it and consistently on that

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drive.
I will say, yeah, you're right.

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They they were they didn't they
weren't they didn't seem like

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they appreciated the lack of
time remaining in the game and I

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don't know if that is Corn
overthinking and not getting the

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plays out there fast enough or
what.

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But it just you know, it's
frustrating that we're having

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these conversations because this
is probably one of the better

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offenses we've ever had.
In terms of yeah talent and

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ability and there's no way that
that that often should be held

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to under 20 points.
Yeah, it's not with the

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playmakers that you have players
all over the line.

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It's essentially like it's
essentially like maybe they're

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trying to be corporate guys.
We're going to put these teams

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in the toughest position
possible to see how they do.

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When you're like, your job is to
win a football game.

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Not put people in really hard
position to overcome the golden

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score will whether it be well,
they're giving us the TV that

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you take it.
Yeah.

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And I mean I know these things
kind of happen, man because I

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mean one of the offenses I was
in college, man.

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Was what was the highest scoring
offense across all divisions

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that year?
But we have one game against a

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team that was like at the time
like four and four.

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So I mean we should have been
able to score against them if we

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didn't do anything else and we
go out there and we put up think

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we put up 18 when it went in
like 18 to 12 and it was like

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one of those ugly.
Games in early November.

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And I just remember thinking
like, Like looking at, we are

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way too talented to not be
putting up at least a 30 burger

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against this team and I feel
like that's what I was looking

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at them.
Like this team is just they're

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not executing and the calls are
not flowing.

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And again, like you said,
there's no sense of urgency.

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So we had kind of that.
Trifecta, that really was, was

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shooting Us in the foot on
offense, man.

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So very disappointed across the
board.

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I will go ahead and make a note
here.

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We had put Brock In as our
number one and I had kind of

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thrown in Luke 2, Nu du as as
one.

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Be.
Luke did not have a good game.

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No, he didn't know he'll float,
he looks slow.

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Basham.
Got got him a couple times.

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The other defensive end I can't
think of his name right now.

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He got him once.
Yeah, I know, I know hooker held

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the ball longer than he should
have a couple times, but yeah,

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didn't do a very good job on the
edge.

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I know this team is good at
setting, the Edge.

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But you're supposed to be pretty
damn good yourself.

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So sometimes you just got to nut
up and he had to take the L when

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it comes and this is going to be
an elf or look tenuta, help

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remove tenuta.
But again, maybe it's something

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we're seeing with covid more and
more.

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As guy says, come back about the
linebacking corps.

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Think about the safeties.
Maybe this is something you

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can't just throw guys, if they
have it thrown right back into

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what they were doing, even with
a full week of practice.

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Yeah.
And I mean I'd say across the

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board the offensive line did not
have a great game, they were

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getting they were getting fitted
up but they were not dominating

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the way.
We've seen them dominate the

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last few games in terms of just
taking over those blocks, even

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even Christian Daris, all had a
couple where he either whiffed

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on a pull or something like
that.

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Like I think there was one where
I want to say it was one where

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hooker kept it, and he whiffed
on the pool and, you know,

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hooker was able to fall forward
for like 45 yards, but I could

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have been like a 20, 30 yard
gain if he just gets a decent,

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block on the pool.
So, I mean, there's is a whole

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lot of little things out there
that really just kind of Put the

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brakes on the offense and it put
the brakes on the offense at the

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worst possible time.
Like it wasn't like we had a

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bunch of three announce.
We were consistently moving the

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football against this defense
and then we would just have

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brain farts.
Absolute brain fart.

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All right, the clock back there.
Chimes.

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So I think we should move.
Let's do talk a little more

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about the defense.
We've done a lot of the offense,

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we said I'm gonna apologize in
advance for my parents house and

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the only place that I won't
wait.

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People up is in a place with a
grandfather clock.

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So y'all going to be hearing
some chiming?

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No, but it'll also be to me and
UK, maybe we should move to the

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next subject.
Let's talk about the defense, my

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opinion, Brian.
I think they had they're good,

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they're bad moment, I mentioned
that earlier.

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They only gave up 23 points,
they held a team that had been

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scoring 30 in ACC play Too Well
to a whole touchdown under their

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average.
But what what what happened and

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you talked about some of the
stuff we talked about not

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filling the gap. they were
missing tackles when we needed

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to take down,
but the drive just before

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half-time Oh God, where we could
not get off the field on fourth

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down.
That just bugged the shit out of

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me because a couple times we
were in place to stop them and

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did not.
And that's unacceptable mean

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it's one thing.
If, you know, they block you or,

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you know, even if you go out and
full speed, miss a tackle,

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that's fine.
But when you're essentially

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giving the ground, you're there,
you're there to make the play.

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You either are too hesitant with
the tackle or you end up, you

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know, letting the running back.
Just run you over for the first

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down like no, make the plug.
All right Brian, hold on.

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Just so, first of all, that was
a lie.

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That was a clock killer 217
plays 75 yards for the touchdown

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to go up. 1710 we never LED in
this game.

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You title as the only time we
were tied with them.

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So I go scroll through the drive
and let's start counting third

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and three.
Let me work pass.

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That's 1/3 sticks, they get five
but they go for it fourth and

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one again, the 11 yard run,
that's to morph into again.

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They get a seven year old paths,
that's three fourth and one

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again, 13, they get a five yard,
a three yard run plus a 5 yard

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facemask vests for so two or
three of those were fourth

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bounds.
Yep.

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So they can they got yards on
Third and then got enough yours

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to feel comfortable going for it
on 4th that, that was such a

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killer because we just had an,
it's like, I'm sitting there

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with my neighbor and I'm Saying,
we just stop right here.

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We're feeling it.
Can get back, get the lead.

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That was the, that was the time
that the offense was humming,

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the best.
Yep.

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You know, the drive just before
that, where we got to 10 and

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then the drive just before the
interception that close out the

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half, like those two drives, we
looked like a competent offense.

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Pretty much every play.
Yep.

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And you having that long drive,
where the offense is sitting for

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so long and then they get the
end up getting You have seven

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points.
I was I was hoping it was like

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I'll just hold them to three
here.

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You know, they've had a long
drive but despite you know, them

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converting a fourth down before
we could get the ball back, when

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they weren't in scoring range,
there in scoring range of just

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get off the field, just get off
the field, just get off, and he

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just never it never happened,
man.

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It that was, that was so
frustrated.

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That was the most frustrating
defensive driving the game.

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I will say, other than lack of
discipline in The second half in

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terms of, I'll see how they
handle themselves from a penalty

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standpoint.
We put, I thought they played a

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pretty good second half.
Well, yeah, man, I mean, the

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beacon settle down and they
adjusted, I mean, we gave up

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over, give up about, 250 yards
on the ground again, but but I

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expect that against this team,
okay?

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But 161 was in the first half,
the adjustments were made, they

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got less than 189 yards in the
second half.

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So the adjustments were made for
the defense, they got 217.

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Wake Forest kick two field goals
in the second half.

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They got gassed early.
Essentially we got it fixed at

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one thing.
I'm learning about ham.

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Pretty quick is just because his
initial game plan isn't

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brilliant.
He is going to make an

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adjustment.
He is good at getting putting

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guys in the right spots on what
the other teams doing.

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He's diagnosing and making the
right change.

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It was so it's one thing to say,
okay, I know what we're doing

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wrong, but the fact that he's
actually making changes that are

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having a marked impact on the
game that that showing both

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growth in hit from his first
game to now and also that, I

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think some of the guys are
starting to get a little more

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accustomed to what he what?
Does and how what their role is

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within that.
Because, I mean, again, like I

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said, other than some of those
mental lapses, the defense

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played pretty damn good in the
second half.

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You know, they weren't lights
out but that's a good enough

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offense, where if you hold them
to less than 10 points in a

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half, you're doing something
pretty good.

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Exactly.
And so, you know, that that sort

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of big ones, you know, they did
move from Leverage at times.

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One piece about using the
leverage.

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We mentioned earlier wrong gaps.
Early cost us some really big

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plays and you know, at least one
defense and we just said it, at

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least with defense.
We see things that they're doing

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like, we my untrained eyes can
literally see.

449
00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:24,300
Okay, we're playing better.
We're doing some things

450
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:25,500
different.
We're getting to our spots

451
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,000
quicker.
We're doing different on the

452
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,600
line we're making it.
Tougher for them to move the

453
00:28:31,608 --> 00:28:32,600
ball.
Yep.

454
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:36,900
And I can respect that and I
like that.

455
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:42,800
Now, will it?
Hams got to figure out and is a

456
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,300
figure out what to do to start
the game hot?

457
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:52,000
Yeah, every you haven't read it,
even be better because we ended

458
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:57,000
up Having a good not great first
drive, and then they end up

459
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,900
scoring first.
So We've got to be able to win

460
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,700
if we don't come out hot on
offense, to be able to get a

461
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:08,500
stop and still keep that opening
kickoff momentum.

462
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:15,200
Because when we haven't scored
first, it's been kind of a slog

463
00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:19,200
when we've been able to get out
there and kind of put pressure

464
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,900
on the other team to score
points.

465
00:29:20,900 --> 00:29:24,400
I mean, that's kind of plays
into what we do because not only

466
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,700
can we be more Reliant upon the
running game but also the

467
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:35,200
defense You know, teams playing
behind 10 to take a little bit

468
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,400
more risk as they're trying to
play catch up there.

469
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,900
And I think our defense takes
better advantage of those

470
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:46,800
situations.
So we get started flat on

471
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,400
offense, we've lost both.
Oh, yeah, and I'm gonna go ahead

472
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,300
and point it out, man.
All three Road games we have not

473
00:29:55,300 --> 00:29:57,700
started.
Well, the first quarter has been

474
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:02,500
bad in all three Road games.
It's true.

475
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,800
Do you game though?
With the exception of the

476
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,400
fumble?
We sort of control the first

477
00:30:09,400 --> 00:31:03,200
half carry more than we did.
110,000.

478
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,500
He was very efficient, but they
weren't getting big plays,

479
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:11,200
they're making some stick movers
and defensive tackles were, you

480
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,700
know that.
That's the that's what drives

481
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:16,400
you sort of crazy about the
defense is the guys, we

482
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,700
highlighted all played.
They did not play.

483
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:22,600
Let's go on a scale of one to
10.

484
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:27,100
Do they play 10?
Did they play 0 or 1?

485
00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:29,600
No, did they play five notes?
They were somewhere in that

486
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,300
like, six and a half to eight.
Strange.

487
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:33,300
Yeah.
Right.

488
00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:36,200
That's where I put them.
Maybe I'm putting them on for

489
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,900
those who say the secondary
played an above-average game and

490
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:43,000
I say the linebackers and
defensive tackles played a good

491
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,100
game, not a great game.
Yes, that's again.

492
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:53,900
So they didn't, you know, I
would probably be be - for the,

493
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:56,500
for the corners.
I'd say going to go Masala be

494
00:31:56,500 --> 00:32:01,900
and probably see the C plus for
the The other guy said, I mean,

495
00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:08,000
they didn't nothing nothing they
did was bad and like I said, the

496
00:32:08,008 --> 00:32:12,200
biggest - that I have for those
groups is that, you know, you

497
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,500
had humid and Pollard that
really just had some boneheaded

498
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:21,100
discipline plays that that hurts
at Key moments, man.

499
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,000
Well, you would just the
targeting and we were watching

500
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,500
it with our other neighbor, the
coach and he said it doing coach

501
00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:31,500
lat.
Ton of believe, what?

502
00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:34,800
He's like, that's a targeting.
He's like, he's like, you know,

503
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:37,100
and they're saying, they route
because a, they didn't throw the

504
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:39,200
flag.
They reviewed it after the fact.

505
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,700
Yeah, hold on.
Let's let me pull back on that

506
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:44,800
because we're going to get into
these rest in a few minutes.

507
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,500
But yeah, they were playing hot
in Hewitt.

508
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:51,600
Will talk about pain in the wild
but him.

509
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,400
Yes, he was visibly upset.
Now if you remember, if you've

510
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,600
not heard during the game or any
game this year player, Joe,

511
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:01,300
Ejected helping stay on the
sidelines.

512
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,800
They had to take you to the back
because you, it was livid Hue

513
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,700
without mine.
We he got a sack on that play

514
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:14,100
Saget's essentially.
Nullified with the targeting 15,

515
00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:19,600
which would have moved them like
to the 34, maybe 40, he gets the

516
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:23,100
other half of that which gives
moves them.

517
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:28,600
Well, the field position it took
it was a went from a major

518
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,900
positive plate.
A to like a back-breaking -

519
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:33,200
play.
Yep.

520
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:39,800
In just a couple seconds man
between And like, you know, like

521
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,600
I said, we're going to talk
about the rest man, but you

522
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,900
know, Hewitt in that situation,
I get his frustration but you

523
00:33:45,908 --> 00:33:51,000
can't make something that you
got bad words, like, you know,

524
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,900
don't don't let that beat.
You can't let something that you

525
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:57,600
can't control beat you and he
did in this case he did in that

526
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,300
case.
Yeah.

527
00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:01,700
And you know, all day and only
wise and we'll get into the rest

528
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:06,500
but all day.
I mean, 10 112 yards, I do math.

529
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,600
112 yards is Enough.
It's into an end zone and when

530
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,300
you lose by a touchdown, along
with three turnovers while,

531
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:20,699
countless errors, if it ends up
the way, it ends up on the drive

532
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:23,699
where we took over with like,
just under 10 minutes left in

533
00:34:24,100 --> 00:34:31,000
that, run were Herbert breaks a
big one and it gets called back.

534
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,500
Doug, number two.
I think her it was like a 30

535
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:35,800
yard or and again, it comes
back.

536
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,000
And I'm like this, this is the
The epitome of the day we were

537
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,300
having, man.
It's just It was completely

538
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:45,000
indicative of the day we were
having.

539
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:52,500
And just man these frustrate me
more than ones like you and see

540
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:56,699
where you felt like for one
reason or another, they just had

541
00:34:56,699 --> 00:35:00,800
our number like it didn't, this
didn't feel like the better team

542
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,900
won and that's what's really
frustrating.

543
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,200
That's why we're drinking at 11.
Not sitting well, I think we'd

544
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,200
still be having a celebration
here in this game but it's like,

545
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,400
yeah, drinking to be like, what
the fuck?

546
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,500
Hmm, alright so we got to we got
to more main topics, we're going

547
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:21,000
to touch here.
We're so we're going to talk a

548
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,800
little bit more about the refs
here in a second and then we're

549
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,400
going to take a little bit of a
dive into the coaching staff and

550
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,100
what they need to do going
forward.

551
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,000
Let's go for it.
I think the other one I might

552
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,200
drop more f-bombs and Anybody
that is with their children at

553
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,300
the beginning of this because
you know, when I uh, ponds are

554
00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:46,200
coming, maybe I am.
Sorry, I have dropped a lot

555
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,600
tonight.
This is definitely like a listen

556
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,100
to in the car, on the way to
work, not a taking your kids to

557
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:56,500
school situation, for those that
are actually taking their kids

558
00:35:56,500 --> 00:36:00,900
to school in this situation.
Exactly.

559
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:07,600
So okay, first of all the refs,
yeah, one of these particular

560
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,400
calls That stand out to you how
their kids catch interference on

561
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,900
an onside kick and hits the
ground.

562
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,400
You know whether or not it, hit
the ground.

563
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:19,400
You've got to take a fucking
look at that, right?

564
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,200
You've got to at least look at
it.

565
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:24,700
No way that Repsol in real-time
is that ball did not hit the

566
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:28,000
ground.
First of all y'all, this got big

567
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,100
man, upset.
His eyes got about is big as a

568
00:36:32,107 --> 00:36:36,100
damn cue ball.
Like, I beg you, if you are near

569
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:38,900
the head official at there, you
would have probably smacked him

570
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:42,300
like no.
But I used to coach, I would

571
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:46,300
talk so much trash to officials.
Man, you they would have had to

572
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:49,200
kick me out of the game after
that one, because after

573
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,600
everything we had been through,
we finally get a three.

574
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:56,200
And, you know, there's time.
It's like, and that's the

575
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:56,600
double.
What?

576
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,300
Like?
Why not?

577
00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:59,400
Just do flag it.
They ended up getting the ball.

578
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,000
Just a flag it.
What's up?

579
00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:08,800
Because you can't, you can't be
up here.

580
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600
They showed it and I'm looking
like, well, he didn't fair catch

581
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,800
it.
He's like, sitting here, trying

582
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,800
to catch the ball in there,
like, fair catch it to me that

583
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:27,200
look like he the kicker.
Hit the top of the nose and the

584
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,300
one where, you know, you slam it
into the ground and then it gets

585
00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:32,900
the high bounce.
And that's what it did look like

586
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,000
in real time.
So how they saw that he under

587
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,900
towed it and it never touched
the ground.

588
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,800
We couldn't there's no way they
saw that in real time.

589
00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:45,800
I mean and like I said, I don't
have a problem.

590
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,300
I have a problem with the flag
in general, but if you're going

591
00:37:48,300 --> 00:37:52,700
to throw the flag at least look
at it because there's no way you

592
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:56,600
saw it in real time and you were
100% sure that it didn't hit the

593
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:03,600
ground on sidekick anyway.
Because a to your point is you,

594
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,300
you can't say what happened.
Because if I mean, is there

595
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,700
Brian has their penalty where if
you attempt to on or you you

596
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:15,700
attempt to fair catch a onside
kick that hits the ground, you

597
00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:19,200
know, the heck that may be the
easiest way to never lose it on

598
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,000
so I can just throw your hands
in the air.

599
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,400
Just throw them up.
Haircuts.

600
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,500
It's a my knowledge ever since
they put in the the kick.

601
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:29,800
Catch interference rule.
No one has kicked the ball in a

602
00:38:29,808 --> 00:38:31,800
way that you know people used to
be Papa.

603
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:35,600
Yep.
And to my knowledge, that's not

604
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,100
taught anymore.
It's either you know, you top

605
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:42,300
knows it, where it Dives and
bounces real quick.

606
00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:50,600
You do the circle move where it
kind of brought him down and he

607
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,100
got to it.
Yes, you can do that or you do

608
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:57,300
the little nudge where you just
kind of push it forward in the

609
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:01,300
middle of the kicking unit and
usually try to let the The

610
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:04,700
kicker recover, it lets get away
from that one.

611
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:08,100
Let's go to one with probably
near and dear to your heart.

612
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:12,100
The huge 30-yard run by juice
where they show the play.

613
00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:15,700
Doug.
Nestor was just blocking his

614
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:21,500
guy.
Yeah and that was a momentum

615
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:23,600
breaking play because we get
that place like up.

616
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,500
Here we go.
It was about to happen.

617
00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:30,700
We're about to go pop on in.
It's another where you know it

618
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:37,200
was away from the bowl I didn't
see clearly that, you know,

619
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,300
we're there was the hands
outside of the shoulder pads or

620
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:44,700
anything like, like everything
was the guy was on the ground

621
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:46,500
when the flap was flying.
Yeah.

622
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:52,100
Like ground already.
I mean it's frustrating because

623
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:59,400
like, At that point in time an
offensive lineman.

624
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,400
So I know I'm going to be biased
here, but if your hands aren't

625
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,400
outside or you're not pretty
much pulling a guy to the

626
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,400
ground.
You should swallow the flag

627
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,800
every time.
Number two.

628
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:16,200
You should definitely swallow
the flag in that situation,

629
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:20,900
where the, it's running away
from where the block is taking

630
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:23,500
place.
And there's not some sort of

631
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:29,400
egregious Showing their it's
almost like someone said, hey

632
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,700
these guys are rushing for too
many yards reps.

633
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:34,500
Take a look at it and they like
overcorrected.

634
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:38,700
Oh my gosh.
Okay.

635
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:45,100
All right, well let's get to the
the one that That really hurt

636
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:49,000
was the huge flag again.
I'm out.

637
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:52,300
It's we're outside.
So the volume we've got it up

638
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:54,500
but it's still tough to see just
where we at.

639
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:59,400
And I don't see a flag where
there with Coach who lives

640
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,000
across the street and eat and he
says that's targeting.

641
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,700
I'm like, well yeah but they
didn't floor flag.

642
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:06,600
Do you can't review and he's
like I think they're reviewing

643
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,400
it when can you just review a
targeting call?

644
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,000
That's not called on the feet.
Is that fun for the game?

645
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,900
This year, I don't know if that
change if it did, I'm not aware

646
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:19,400
of it.
I think that that's something.

647
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,000
We be aware of the right that we
would have been a big story

648
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,800
where if you're targeting a guy,
they can look at it even if

649
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,700
there's no flag on the play.
I don't know man.

650
00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:32,600
I'm going to actually look it up
real quick.

651
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,900
Let's go for ten here,
efforting, but either way, I

652
00:41:36,908 --> 00:41:43,000
mean that play goes from a sack
where I believe it would have

653
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:47,700
Ben.
No, Thursday's this is not off

654
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:49,500
to use.
Apparently this is an old Rule

655
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:56,800
and then really, it's just so
not off to use door, but

656
00:41:56,900 --> 00:42:02,200
apparently it was added in 2016.
Allows replay officials to call

657
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:07,300
targeting from upstairs, okay?
Well, let's see if they, if

658
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:11,600
Clemson or North Carolina or
Miami will get that thrown on

659
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,400
them at any time this year.
Year.

660
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,700
I'm going to make a bet.
Yes I'm gonna have yeah it's not

661
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:21,300
going to happen to them but that
happens.

662
00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:27,900
It's looks like a big sack of
way behind change the one of

663
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:31,200
those momentum building plays
and then everything happened

664
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:37,600
Hewitt lost his mind you know,
in and I think it is because

665
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:43,200
it's a guy.
That plays hard who's undersized

666
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,800
to gives everything leaves it on
the field that if you look at

667
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:54,800
the play did it look dirty.
We can't see the launch angle

668
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,100
from where he would came from.
Yeah.

669
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,300
You know, I mean it was I
thought it was more questionable

670
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:04,500
than it being like Oh, that's
blatant.

671
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,200
Again, we're however many years
into this thing and I still

672
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:10,800
don't know what a targeting
looks like.

673
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:20,800
If you showed me one domain, I
don't know where the line is.

674
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,100
And that's the problem with
these things that you don't

675
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:27,300
really know where the line is.
Because sometimes, you know, you

676
00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:29,300
think it's definitely an Action
and they stay.

677
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:32,200
And then sometimes you think,
oh, that's not even close and

678
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,400
then they get kicked.
So, you know, I still don't know

679
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,000
where the line is.
Like I said, I know a bad one

680
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,100
when I see it, but that's about
all.

681
00:43:41,100 --> 00:43:44,500
I know at this point, man.
Well, I think it's the piece of

682
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,700
He's targeting A good rule.
Yes absolutely I think they very

683
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:53,200
good rule to have it.
You're trying to teach better on

684
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:58,300
the middle of the game, put in
some cases it's well a wasn't

685
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:04,100
malicious be did anybody change
angles on the was he essentially

686
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:08,000
was going for his head as soon
as he left or is it one of these

687
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,500
things?
Where the way he left he was

688
00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:17,500
going for his chest?
And his angle came up and just

689
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:21,000
got him in the head.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like it's

690
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:27,000
this way like they tried to make
it objective in terms of ruling

691
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,300
out intent.
But then they've now they've

692
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:33,300
made it objective.
In terms of what is and is not

693
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:39,400
this type of contact because you
know I get you don't want to you

694
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:44,300
know.
You don't want to assume intent

695
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:48,300
either for or against whether
the player was going, you know,

696
00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:51,500
attempting to hit the player in
that ring, that range, or or

697
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:55,900
region.
But at the same time by removing

698
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:01,300
intent, you're essentially
taking away part of the way you

699
00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:04,800
objectively.
Look at the hit all together

700
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,800
because I mean, if I'm a guy
that's aiming at a chest and all

701
00:45:07,808 --> 00:45:10,400
of a sudden, my aiming point is
now ahead.

702
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:15,100
That's a problem.
And that's not on the defender

703
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:18,000
mean the defender can only do so
much to avoid that.

704
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,700
So I feel like like I said
taking away, some of the

705
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:25,900
subjectivity is caused only more
subjectivity because your end up

706
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,500
looking at something else
different now.

707
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:34,600
And it's almost objective to the
point of well, this is the rule

708
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:38,800
regardless of any circumstances
that take place on the field and

709
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,200
there's very few situations
where that That should be the

710
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,500
case but I don't know.
What do I know I'm an offensive

711
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:51,300
lineman?
Yeah, we gotta say, you know, in

712
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:53,800
some of the interviews, you
know, they need to be more

713
00:45:53,800 --> 00:46:00,000
disciplined and stuff.
And, you know, but in a game

714
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,400
like today, there was an
unspecified personal foul

715
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,100
because they call it and they
didn't show anything.

716
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,900
And I hate those.
I hate those so much as like

717
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:10,600
what happened.
If there's a personal but you

718
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,600
need to show it.
You need to get, make sure you

719
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,500
get the number and then you show
the replay.

720
00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:26,800
So can you tell me why?
Hey homes like why it and show

721
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,500
it?
Like I don't know whether it was

722
00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:32,400
just the camera crew couldn't
find what was called or or what,

723
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,500
at that point.
So, you know, let's there's

724
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:37,400
plenty of things we can bag on
the rest for.

725
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,300
But as we said at the beginning
of this, we should, we shouldn't

726
00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:44,900
have let The refs be able to
determine this outcome.

727
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:48,500
This should have been a two
score game, going into some of

728
00:46:48,508 --> 00:46:52,800
the key moments towards the end.
You know, whether we ended up

729
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,000
covering or not, it is, you
know, it relevant.

730
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,300
At this point we should have
had, it should have been a two

731
00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:02,200
score game going into the fourth
quarter and we should have let

732
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,100
the rest even be able to have
any sort of say in the outcome

733
00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:07,200
here.
So this is one hundred percent

734
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,600
on Virginia Tech.
But that doesn't mean the rest

735
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,700
and make some some pretty had a
pretty rough day.

736
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:16,000
Absolutely release.
All right.

737
00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:21,100
So let's let y'all I think we
just the way we've mentioned it

738
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:25,300
here.
The players, the game plans that

739
00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:30,000
were out there or not executed
significantly.

740
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,700
Well we've already mentioned
that with Hamilton the early,

741
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,500
the adjustments.
He made it, sort of fixed it,

742
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,400
but again, his issue is multiple
times now.

743
00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:45,600
Teams have, you know,
essentially gotten out even in

744
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,300
the BC game, we don't force a
turnover, they're moving the

745
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:51,900
ball.
He's got his initial game plans

746
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,100
to your point.
What you said earlier on where

747
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:56,500
it when we're not humming early
on offense or we're trying to

748
00:47:56,500 --> 00:48:00,300
find our groove, we're not just
getting gassed and giving up

749
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:03,600
points.
Yeah, you're right man, we need

750
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:09,700
to just be better out the gate,
both on offense and defense and

751
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:13,500
that this applies to all these
Road games, man.

752
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:16,500
All of these Road games, we have
not looked great out the jump

753
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:21,800
against BC, even though we made
some adjustments there out the

754
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,600
jump, we were not playing.
Well, we've got to be better in

755
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:29,000
the first quarter on both sides
of the ball, but especially on

756
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,300
defense.
Because that's when we really

757
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:35,600
struggled to get some stops,
we've let big gash plays happen

758
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,700
in the first quarter in pretty
much every game at this point

759
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:44,800
except for NC State.
What, and fortunately for Duke,

760
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,100
we were able to hold them to
just three points on that one.

761
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:54,100
And then obviously some of the
other games, it's been, you

762
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:58,600
know, a lot worse with with what
happened today and then what

763
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,900
happened against NC against you
and see, just got to be better

764
00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:05,400
out the gate.
I don't know if it's a game plan

765
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:10,300
issue or an execution issue or
just not Not playing well.

766
00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:23,000
We see plain significantly
better.

767
00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:27,100
That's why I don't think it's as
much as in there to Mexico, it's

768
00:49:27,100 --> 00:49:32,000
an execution of the initial game
plan, but the adjustments, it

769
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,400
better?
Why we're playing better.

770
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:38,100
The visor point I need to I'll
say this, I think what we're not

771
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:41,400
doing is We're not dictating
terms out the gate.

772
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,700
We're kind of letting them
dictate the terms and reacting

773
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:49,400
and then once we figure out, you
know, how they're trying to play

774
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,700
the game, we're adjusting to
that and then we're figuring

775
00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:54,200
out, okay well they're doing
this so we can attack here but

776
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,700
we're not doing a good job of
game-planning where we can

777
00:49:57,300 --> 00:50:00,500
dictate the terms early on in
the game.

778
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,400
And I think that that's what's
hurting us right now is that

779
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,400
we're not asserting ourselves on
defense and kind of going out

780
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:12,700
there and just You know, taking
their will early, it's more of a

781
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,300
we're going to feel you out.
Okay, this is what you're doing

782
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:17,200
now.
We're going to attack and take

783
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,300
away some of those weapons but
we're not doing that at the gate

784
00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:24,900
so that's got to get better.
I don't know if that's a, you

785
00:50:24,900 --> 00:50:29,000
know, a game plan issue or just
not breaking down the tape the

786
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,700
way we need to.
So we know what they're going to

787
00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:33,400
try to do.
I will say that they had a

788
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,500
different game plan in the
running game than I thought they

789
00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:37,300
were out the gate, they
definitely went more.

790
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:42,100
The Bill Smith, one cut kind of
quick hitters then the in the

791
00:50:42,100 --> 00:50:44,500
slow mesh RPO, there were still,
I mean they still had the slow

792
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:47,800
mesh but it was they went more
with Bill Smith on those early

793
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,800
carries.
And yeah, and he said that that

794
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,900
one cut kind of got us, man.
And I think probably what it was

795
00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:58,800
with the one cut was us where we
saw in the UNC game.

796
00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:01,800
We were times really early in
that game.

797
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,900
We were making in decisions,
link to the Fitz late to the

798
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:08,500
fits and he was able to get to
the second level and Like I said

799
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:11,600
he was, he's the guy that early
in the down.

800
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,500
If he got to the second level,
he was dangerous.

801
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:18,400
And then you know we ended up
letting him take advantage of

802
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,100
that on the edge, man.
Well since when they were saying

803
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:22,900
we're not we're you have to make
a choice.

804
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:26,200
Versus the patient guy will deal
with him, will let him run a

805
00:51:26,207 --> 00:51:28,800
little later.
Well, let him later when it's

806
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:31,400
and he had some success but we
also threw him through several

807
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,200
negative plays in the second
half as well.

808
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,600
So we'll give them credit for
understanding what we're doing.

809
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:43,000
What we were doing bad on me.
Now, we're filling and

810
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,700
everything.
Yeah, well, let's get begin.

811
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,300
Because we're going to be, we
can lash it to defense as

812
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:55,700
bronto's over there, and we got
it, right.

813
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,500
You will get 12 of them man.
Just wait about

814
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:16,600
midnight man.
Let's do it.

815
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:21,800
The bell of told that night our
head coach I told you earlier is

816
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,100
the first time I'm going to put
it this way my confidence and is

817
00:52:26,100 --> 00:52:29,400
our head coach went down at
times today, okay.

818
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:38,600
And In what it is.
Is I'm going to just, I'll say

819
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,000
it bluntly, the person he's
allowing to run this offense.

820
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Does not know how to fully run
this offense that and I'm gonna

821
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,900
put it on this analogy or we
grew up in a town where there

822
00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:59,300
are people who essentially have
Camaros Mustangs if they go down

823
00:52:59,300 --> 00:53:02,200
to some of the drag strips and
they race them right?

824
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,200
Yep.
I'll work that we worked with

825
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,900
the guy.
Yeah, 68.

826
00:53:07,900 --> 00:53:16,400
Nova would drag racer.
And Big Dave, you have to get

827
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,100
his car set up and you have to
race it.

828
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:21,600
Where we go up there.
We got.

829
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,000
You have to really get a car set
up, but then you hear about them

830
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,200
going and they did not have a
good thing at the direction

831
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,300
because they did not know how to
drive the car.

832
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,000
Yep, that's what we have on
offense.

833
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:38,100
I think, I think the person who
is creating, he knows how to

834
00:53:38,100 --> 00:53:40,400
tune up the part that Big Stone
Gap play, Man.

835
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,600
Jesus, that was a thing of you.
There was nobody within him that

836
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,800
was a beautiful play design,
some of the jet sweeps today.

837
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:51,700
Beautiful play design.
He does not know how to get into

838
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:58,500
the car though and drive it.
It how you need to drive it on

839
00:53:58,900 --> 00:54:03,000
every game or on every Drive,
make sense.

840
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,100
It does, man, it does.
And I mean, watching it, I kind

841
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:11,300
of, I mean, I see some of the
same type things that you're

842
00:54:11,300 --> 00:54:18,500
talking about when we look at,
The offensive play calling and

843
00:54:18,500 --> 00:54:21,600
I'm going to specifically say
the play calling because as you

844
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,100
said, I think the design of the
offense is very good.

845
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,500
Damn boy.
But I think that the combination

846
00:54:29,500 --> 00:54:37,800
of calling and execution leaves
something to be desired and You

847
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,600
know, it there's moments that it
looks good.

848
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,600
And then there's moments that
I'm like, I just I scratch my

849
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,400
head.
I'm like, what what are you

850
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,700
trying to even in do their
fourth?

851
00:54:50,700 --> 00:55:00,000
I get two weeks short sides and
you know, I mean a couple times

852
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:07,400
we had Jets, we've calls and I
don't know if it was a If it's

853
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,200
sometimes hard to tell, whether
hooker is truly reading on the

854
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,700
Jet Sweep or whether it's a
we're giving we're giving it

855
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:18,300
regardless.
But there were a couple times

856
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:23,400
where if he was truly reading
and not just carrying out of

857
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,500
fake that he would have walked
in for a touchdown that second

858
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:28,400
one.
He would have.

859
00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:32,600
Yeah, nobody on the right side
of that field, they all float.

860
00:55:32,700 --> 00:55:36,600
If he pulls it, he walks and
it's an extra four points.

861
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,200
So again, I can't speak to
whether that's a design or

862
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:47,700
whether that was just a bad
read, but if it was designed, I

863
00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:52,900
would prefer pretty much.
Unless it's like a short yardage

864
00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:57,100
like a like a third one, where
we just want the ball in,

865
00:55:57,100 --> 00:56:01,600
Herbert's hands.
Yeah, I want everything to be a

866
00:56:01,607 --> 00:56:04,100
read.
I want, I want hooker to have

867
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:08,900
the option to pull it and go and
he.

868
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:12,800
Yeah.
So like I said, I don't know if

869
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,000
that's the case.
I'm putting my feelings out

870
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:23,000
there, situation so well, To one
other thing and my opened.

871
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:28,000
For those who ask about the
analogy I made from about Brad

872
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,400
cornelison.
We don't understand it.

873
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,100
Please message the B C or D and
the BC, or message me directly

874
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,700
on its, on our, it's on our
page.

875
00:56:37,700 --> 00:56:43,700
And yeah, well, what I mean?
But Ron, I messaged you earlier

876
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:50,800
in about three, four months ago,
they showed the Rose Bowl PC.

877
00:56:50,900 --> 00:56:54,100
Versus Wisconsin.
And if you don't recall when

878
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:57,700
that game was on, I legitimately
sent you every single freaking

879
00:56:57,700 --> 00:56:58,900
play.
That was called because that was

880
00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:03,400
full and thick, all in the place
and mean kind of share with

881
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,800
other people.
And everybody's like, it's

882
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,100
brilliant.
There's times where he's going

883
00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:10,100
back to the same thing, same
thing.

884
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,500
And then he sees a slight
adjustment and he goes something

885
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:16,500
completely that it exposes where
they adjusted.

886
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,200
Yep.
It looks like it looks like

887
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,900
something that was planned, you
know, who you thought?

888
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:28,900
It's like, I think we're, I'm
saying I'm losing the confidence

889
00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:30,600
in him.
Is you got this guy knows how to

890
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,700
create a good game plan, you
know, you know how to call good

891
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:35,500
place.
That is why you be, that's why

892
00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:37,000
you got hired to be a head.
Coach.

893
00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:41,500
What you did at TCU is why you
got hired at Memphis.

894
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:46,400
I believe he's a good head coach
but I believe he's also known

895
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,800
this guy for the last 17 years
of his life and I believe he's

896
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,600
hate to say this.
It's there a few times and I

897
00:57:56,600 --> 00:58:02,900
want with the same program where
there's one thing preventing you

898
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:06,400
from getting over the hump.
And it's your loyalty.

899
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:13,400
Yeah, if I'm just in for
Wednesday, warrants a design,

900
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,100
the game plan on calling the
next week.

901
00:58:16,500 --> 00:58:20,200
Because I need to see it work.
You're doing is what I'm doing

902
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,600
and if it's, if I go out there
next week and I put 63 points on

903
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,200
the board that I've already.
I've already answered it.

904
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:30,700
Yeah, I'm going to I'm going to
piggyback off your your analogy

905
00:58:30,700 --> 00:58:32,800
there.
All right, we're gonna go old

906
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,200
school here guys.
So when I say The Fast and

907
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:39,700
Furious, I'm not talking about
the 2009 movie.

908
00:58:39,700 --> 00:58:42,500
I'm talking about the original
2001 movie.

909
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:49,300
I fondly, yay!
As did I Together, possibly 20

910
00:58:49,300 --> 00:58:56,100
years ago, quite possibly man.
Okay, so remember Jesse kind of

911
00:58:56,100 --> 00:59:01,000
the guy that would set up a lot
of the the NOS systems in the in

912
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:07,200
the cars but he took his car to
the the track and he couldn't do

913
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,000
it.
You don't want Jesse behind the

914
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,000
car you want?
Dom Toretto.

915
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:19,900
Yes, Brad corny open is Jessie
except we don't have anyone to

916
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:23,000
kill him.
That is the complete joke.

917
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:29,700
I've seen this all the friggin
bleep joke, don't worry, buddy

918
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:31,500
going to kill all the Jews of
corner because I think he can

919
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:35,400
design damn good plays.
I think that should be this job.

920
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:43,500
So I mean, I think I'm going to
edit this out now, we're really

921
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,500
going to keep it in, man, we're
going to keep that in.

922
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:48,900
There are some guys we can do
that.

923
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,400
I'm a 49ers fan run and
actually, your coats are a good

924
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,300
way to put this to with, um,
Frank Wright.

925
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,100
Those guys know how to designing
call?

926
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:03,300
Yeah, they do.
They also know how to be.

927
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:07,500
Well, Kyle made a few screw-ups
here and there, but overall, All

928
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,900
he's been a big boat.
Been good head coaches.

929
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:16,900
It's just not in his DNA to
call, he's not in his DNA like

930
01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:18,900
today.
I feel like if Wednesday have

931
01:00:18,900 --> 01:00:22,200
been on that call after those
first few outside edge runs, I

932
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,400
think he would have ran re-up on
inside Zone and then just said,

933
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:28,900
you want to play that hard Edge.
You can go on it.

934
01:00:28,900 --> 01:00:30,200
I'm going to keep going right
here.

935
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:33,500
I think after the first few
times, when we took a shot, I

936
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:36,400
think you said, okay, I'm gonna
start peppering you again.

937
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:41,300
I go back to the game that Rose
Bowl game and all that.

938
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:47,500
Yeah, follow page and gears.
You saw him in waiting for us,

939
01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:54,800
we Pine for it because In menu.
Close to being out 25-year fans.

940
01:00:57,300 --> 01:01:06,100
We've never had a play caller.
The just yeah we've had great

941
01:01:06,100 --> 01:01:12,100
players.
We have now we've had great

942
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:14,000
players.
We've had great systems but we

943
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,500
haven't had a great play.
Caller at any point that I can

944
01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:21,400
recall, not Ricky bustle had the
system.

945
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,400
They had with Mike Vick was just
perfect.

946
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,600
Also wouldn't a great play call
or he had an ungodly town.

947
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,900
I'm sad because I see this
system.

948
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,300
And I think this system, 10
years ago, 15 years ago with

949
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:37,000
some of the dynamic play.
This system would have murder

950
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,300
people.
Even evil.

951
01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:42,600
According to Nielsen calling
plays, this is the would have

952
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,900
murdered people in the car odd
years.

953
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:51,900
I mean like, like, like I'm on
my thinking, average is probably

954
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,700
43, 44 points, a game without
blinking.

955
01:01:57,100 --> 01:01:59,600
It could have worked with him.
It could have worked in 2004

956
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:05,100
with your.
Yeah I mean there's definitely

957
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:11,100
could have been a so system.
This is what we make it a poll

958
01:02:11,100 --> 01:02:14,900
question.
Does Hokie Nation won't get what

959
01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:19,800
they call plays?
I think we could probably put

960
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,300
that out there.
I'm going to ask you another

961
01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:24,000
question while we're, since
we're kind of venting.

962
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:29,200
I mean this is probably more of
a big picture than it is a right

963
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,000
now question.
But you know, do is there

964
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,200
anything other than potentially
changing the play?

965
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:38,300
Call duties that we need to look
at To get through the rest of

966
01:02:38,308 --> 01:02:42,700
the season.
No, I don't think so.

967
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:48,300
I mean, you know defensively you
got a whole new staff.

968
01:02:48,300 --> 01:02:50,300
They're trying to implement some
different things.

969
01:02:50,300 --> 01:02:54,400
They didn't get spring Thee.
I can't look.

970
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:18,200
Yeah, I agree.
I guess the question is that Has

971
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,100
this staff as a whole?
Did they Peak year one?

972
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:25,700
Or are we going to see them?
Get back to the consistency that

973
01:03:25,700 --> 01:03:31,000
we saw in that first year?
Because even even at its worst

974
01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:33,200
Syracuse.
Yeah.

975
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,500
That's season.
Felt different like that.

976
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,100
Other than I think the only
other game that had me sweat,

977
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:46,300
and towards the end that year
was other than the Clemson

978
01:03:46,300 --> 01:03:50,800
matchup was, Was the Duke game
which I was at that year and

979
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,600
then we just close the door
late.

980
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:59,300
So, I don't think I'm quite
there with this unit yet, just

981
01:03:59,300 --> 01:04:03,200
because of what I saw today.
I thought we were past the

982
01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:09,200
things where we push through the
adversity and end up closing out

983
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:14,200
games the way we should.
Because even in the UNC game I

984
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,600
felt like we push through
adversity and close pretty well,

985
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,800
especially on the offensive side
of the football.

986
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:25,000
And, you know, this was a big
step back for me and you know

987
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:30,400
I'm not Not, I'm not I'm not
knee jerking or you know, one

988
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,700
game I'm pivoting from best
offense.

989
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:39,600
We've had in a while to, you
know, we got to completely gut

990
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:43,600
this thing.
But at the same time, what

991
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:44,900
happened?
Today, shouldn't happen.

992
01:04:44,900 --> 01:04:48,100
And that's got to start and end
with the with the coaching staff

993
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:49,400
and with the head coach.
So we got it.

994
01:04:49,408 --> 01:04:52,500
We got to hold that accountable
and and try to make some changes

995
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:55,200
and I know, you know, Fuente
took responsibility for this.

996
01:04:55,400 --> 01:05:00,000
One at the podium.
But, you know, we still, we it's

997
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,300
one thing to take
responsibility.

998
01:05:01,300 --> 01:05:03,300
Another thing to, you know,
let's turn it around.

999
01:05:03,300 --> 01:05:08,300
And, you know, we got Louisville
coming in at 78 going down

1000
01:05:08,300 --> 01:05:10,600
there.
So cannot get us a some round

1001
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:14,700
about what you said though.
Yeah, when he was tired and he

1002
01:05:14,700 --> 01:05:17,900
came in here, he didn't
essentially everything.

1003
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,700
I mean, yes, he hired.
But Foster's that staff.

1004
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:29,300
Yeah.
But his fans knew how long can

1005
01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:31,200
but do it.
How long does bud want to do it?

1006
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:39,300
Obviously, but had heart issues.
So you won coach was just what

1007
01:05:39,300 --> 01:05:43,300
they had Coke bread corn.
Nielsen offensive coordinator

1008
01:05:43,300 --> 01:05:46,800
quarterback, coach Zone, burden
running backs coach Holloman

1009
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,400
Wiggins wide receiver coach
Shabbos, tight ends.

1010
01:05:50,900 --> 01:05:55,100
Vice offensive line right?
Yep other Style.

1011
01:05:55,100 --> 01:06:00,100
The ball was Bud.
Charlie Tigre for a while.

1012
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:04,500
Be mixed for a while.
Kalin Scott.

1013
01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:09,700
Who's left on the staff as of
right now?

1014
01:06:09,700 --> 01:06:18,600
Nobody defensive side is nobody
in.

1015
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:23,600
I would say running back.
Something better like a bird

1016
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,000
takes over running backs.
Looking better.

1017
01:06:25,000 --> 01:07:07,000
I'm wrong about my hair.
OK, Google search.

1018
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:12,800
One of the offensive line coach
the offensive coordinator and if

1019
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,000
we're talking about what's
happening this season it's

1020
01:07:16,300 --> 01:07:18,200
pretty easy to.
I think the spot the weakest

1021
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,800
link of those three.
There you go.

1022
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,000
And even of the interview if you
can separate and say these are

1023
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,300
the new coaches, we cannot grade
them.

1024
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,900
Not this year.
It'll probably be the end of

1025
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:32,800
next year before we grade them.
We great on.

1026
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,800
Who's here?
God?

1027
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,900
That's good were good.
Special teams coach to the fake

1028
01:07:37,900 --> 01:07:38,600
punt.
Brilliant.

1029
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:40,400
Today you have an athletic guy
back there.

1030
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,400
You take the risk.
Brilliant call.

1031
01:07:42,700 --> 01:07:47,700
If so, it consistently goes back
to the weakest link.

1032
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,900
And I think anybody takes some
people felt like Ben's face was

1033
01:07:52,900 --> 01:07:55,000
the weakest link.
Well, he's proven that wrong

1034
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,100
this year, we still ran for over
200 today.

1035
01:07:57,700 --> 01:08:02,200
Yep, we gave up two sacks, all
right?

1036
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,100
If that's your worst game than
most people, most teams will

1037
01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:13,500
take that damn lie.
So that we went, we went spells

1038
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:18,700
in the bearing, the latter days
of the Beamer era in the early.

1039
01:08:18,899 --> 01:08:22,000
Days of the Flint area where we
didn't go.

1040
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:25,300
We go stretches of not getting
200 rushing yards in the game.

1041
01:08:25,300 --> 01:08:28,500
So the fact that we're still
getting that on a bad day, way

1042
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:35,300
that tells you the steps we've
taken this year, Matt taken and

1043
01:08:35,300 --> 01:08:39,000
you had to bury the guy but it's
like after you had Jerrod the

1044
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,600
first year, you had NFL wide
receiver and Bucky you had cam.

1045
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:51,600
You had You had has a afford
what happens when you've been

1046
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,100
drinking and then you lose a
game but you had and you had

1047
01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:58,600
Gerard you had an okay offensive
line, not great.

1048
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,300
Not this greater I'd love to see
that line with that team.

1049
01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:07,300
This line with that team but you
didn't have the good a running

1050
01:09:07,300 --> 01:09:12,200
back like we do now.
But what I've seen is even with

1051
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,600
that.
We weren't a leak.

1052
01:09:16,300 --> 01:09:21,700
We were good.
Above average but not great

1053
01:09:21,700 --> 01:09:58,500
Elite.
So it's like

1054
01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:17,800
I feel like oftentimes those
calls don't put the players.

1055
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:22,300
Place to have success.
Nope, the two calls inside the

1056
01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:25,800
Tent today are the ones I
pointed, because if you just sit

1057
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:29,100
there and say, yep, you've had
some success with Blackshear on

1058
01:10:29,100 --> 01:10:31,800
the jet sweeps but you've also
had spacing guys spaced out

1059
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,100
there.
Bunch now I'm sitting here in

1060
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:36,900
just the first one that
happened.

1061
01:10:36,900 --> 01:10:39,200
I just said to him said to
myself just just run the ball.

1062
01:10:39,500 --> 01:10:42,700
Just run the ball with Herbert
and some ways on get positive

1063
01:10:42,700 --> 01:10:46,500
yards.
It closer so jump balls are in

1064
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:51,100
effect or You know, Zone read
quarterback counters,

1065
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:56,000
quarterback sweets, all on the
table, you ran it.

1066
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:00,700
Goes back to the Kentucky game
with a freaking back, sweep

1067
01:11:00,700 --> 01:11:04,300
short side.
When we needed a good.

1068
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:08,500
Yep, it was the worst at the
work.

1069
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,500
I think me.
And you discussed afterwards.

1070
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:15,900
That was that was the change of
the game.

1071
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,400
You do you call any other play
in that game?

1072
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:25,000
You probably becomes Ball but we
didn't worst play at the worst

1073
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:31,400
time that set us apart of the
game here.

1074
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:38,800
It was the field goal.
We missed the 53 order, the way

1075
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,700
out there.
Yeah the one where if it was me

1076
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,700
on Third down, instead of
dropping handing back into a

1077
01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:50,900
five-step drop.
I'm handing the ball off to my

1078
01:11:50,900 --> 01:11:56,500
running back and letting us
either have a chain of choice to

1079
01:11:56,500 --> 01:12:00,200
go for it on fourth or kick a
field goal, but instead of

1080
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,800
getting a potential at least
probably two or three yard gain

1081
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:07,400
on that play, you drop yourself
six yards back and take a, make

1082
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,200
a 47-yard field goal, a 53-yard
field goal.

1083
01:12:11,900 --> 01:12:15,300
I mean, and yeah, Yeah, and I
mean, so that's execution. 2

1084
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:17,800
news has got to do better Block
in the defensive end on that

1085
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:22,300
play as well, but run the ball.
If you get 78 yards, you get a

1086
01:12:22,308 --> 01:12:24,400
choice to either.
Go for it on fourth or kick the

1087
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,500
field goal, and worse case
scenario, you make that field

1088
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:31,200
goal.
Shorter will stand for, it's not

1089
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,000
even where it's third and six or
seven.

1090
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,000
It was Stern for on that play.
Yeah.

1091
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,900
Before it would have been a
40-second Warner.

1092
01:12:39,100 --> 01:12:41,500
It's three and you still don't
feel comfortable going for it

1093
01:12:41,500 --> 01:12:47,700
leads to 44. 45 yarder where you
feel where you know holy crap,

1094
01:12:47,700 --> 01:12:51,700
Tampa Bay just walked off.
We had a to Two World Series,

1095
01:12:51,900 --> 01:13:05,500
all right?
But back to this so he would

1096
01:13:05,500 --> 01:13:33,000
have had it would have been
Get the ball out, the space

1097
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:36,400
underneath the coverage.
You know what?

1098
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,000
I'll go back even further when
we were struggling to move the

1099
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,400
ball, that one play where we
motion Mitchell out and then got

1100
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,500
him out in space.
It ended up not being a great

1101
01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:48,800
big game because he almost
misread the block, but it was a

1102
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,600
great design and it got the job
done which was get us.

1103
01:13:51,900 --> 01:13:53,600
I think we needed three yards on
that play.

1104
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,500
Wind up, getting like six or
seven.

1105
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:59,900
Yeah, like I love that play call
like something like that.

1106
01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:03,600
Where we're getting the ball out
of hookers hands fast.

1107
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,000
I mean even what was the other
Play where we ran.

1108
01:14:09,500 --> 01:14:10,700
Who was it?
I think was TV on.

1109
01:14:10,700 --> 01:14:13,000
We ran him right?
Like, underneath the coverage.

1110
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:14,400
All the way across the
formation.

1111
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,000
Yes.
Oh yeah, we reran the dragged

1112
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,800
across the formation and he had
room to make a guy missing.

1113
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:23,700
The almost got the first down
the end up like three yard

1114
01:14:23,700 --> 01:14:27,600
short, like something like that
on, on that play would have been

1115
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,900
way better than what we ended up
going with.

1116
01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:34,500
Like you're playing into their
strengths too much.

1117
01:14:34,500 --> 01:14:37,100
And I mean, I know at some point
you're like, well, I'm going to

1118
01:14:37,108 --> 01:14:41,600
call this play in the players,
have to execute but But okay but

1119
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,300
that's that doesn't always work
man.

1120
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,000
Again sometimes you need to put
the players in a position to

1121
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:51,000
have success and not just well
this is the play.

1122
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:55,000
You need to execute it.
It's one of those weird things

1123
01:14:55,000 --> 01:15:04,400
where it's almost like, like
like through more stuff like

1124
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:09,100
that maybe on the football team
or fraternities where it's like,

1125
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:13,000
We're going to give you an
almost impossible mission.

1126
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:17,100
You might complete, but it's
almost impossible to complete

1127
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,800
versus.
That's what he's doing.

1128
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,900
Here's the impossible that you
probably can complete it coach.

1129
01:15:24,900 --> 01:15:26,900
Why don't we do that?
That's really easy.

1130
01:15:26,900 --> 01:15:28,300
And we're going to get eight
yards.

1131
01:15:28,300 --> 01:15:32,900
No, no, this is what you gonna
do.

1132
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:38,500
Are you saying that for Nelson
Lakes to Kobayashi Maru the

1133
01:15:38,500 --> 01:15:39,700
often sometimes?
Yes.

1134
01:15:42,900 --> 01:15:45,200
But I have a question.
You see the looks on the faces?

1135
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,000
You see the energy level of the
guys?

1136
01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:51,000
Yeah.
You know, for real, like, do you

1137
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:55,100
feel like they're sitting here?
Like, like all those guys going?

1138
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:57,500
Oh man.
This is when we can run like

1139
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,000
tendons are waiting for the play
called man.

1140
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,200
This would be a good time for
QB.

1141
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,300
Counter wouldn't be great at
Sweet short side.

1142
01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:10,700
What what are we?
What are we Maybe when we get

1143
01:16:10,700 --> 01:16:13,600
into it, maybe there's set up,
something weird and you want to

1144
01:16:13,900 --> 01:16:16,900
bail out of it.
All right, we look to the side

1145
01:16:16,900 --> 01:16:19,700
lat.
Okay, we're not bailing out of

1146
01:16:19,700 --> 01:16:21,900
their check with me.
He we're going with us.

1147
01:16:23,300 --> 01:16:27,400
I did what I did.
And if you think about it,

1148
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:30,300
eventually, the play calls
become like that.

1149
01:16:30,300 --> 01:16:33,200
Do they give some leverage?
Just for one day, give leverage

1150
01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,900
to him to say if you feel like
it's a bad looking bad, play

1151
01:16:35,900 --> 01:16:37,000
check out.
Yeah.

1152
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:39,800
There's that.
If you check out more than this,

1153
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,400
The stew for lunch and then have
that for dinner.

1154
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:23,400
Oh man, did we ate late?
And I ended up, I went all

1155
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,400
crazy.
Staking State G note, sub-folder

1156
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,500
myself, beautiful fat kid, huh?
Yeah then I got myself my

1157
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:40,000
sticks, we got salad, but their
ranch dressing, some of the best

1158
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,500
ranch dressing never.
So I just don't hold.

1159
01:17:43,900 --> 01:17:51,100
Dude, I think dressing is always
baller as well.

1160
01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:53,300
I don't know.
I think those places like that

1161
01:17:53,300 --> 01:18:06,100
they make their home, they might
like if it's store-bought it's

1162
01:18:06,100 --> 01:18:35,700
somewhere that
We didn't really have a run-down

1163
01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:37,400
ladies and gentle.
We just kind of said, this is

1164
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,600
what we want to talk about and
kind of went so.

1165
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:44,100
If it's a little little off the
normal beaten path, you know,

1166
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,900
let us know.
But we just kind of felt with

1167
01:18:46,900 --> 01:18:51,200
the way the game was played.
Both sloppy and very beat

1168
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,100
yourself.
We figured, we're just going to

1169
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:56,800
run this podcast, kind of the
same way and just let y'all know

1170
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,700
how we feel and let it ride.
So, that's what you got.

1171
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,700
Absolutely.
Well, guys, that is going to

1172
01:19:04,700 --> 01:19:08,700
wrap up this episode of The
Boundary Corner podcast.

1173
01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:13,700
I'm quite As well soon.
I'm Brian, Sigler don't know

1174
01:19:13,700 --> 01:19:16,600
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1175
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,700
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1176
01:19:18,700 --> 01:19:20,200
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1177
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:24,500
Less of as always.
We let our friend Jason Long

1178
01:19:24,500 --> 01:19:26,700
play us out Brian.
What's you plan this out

1179
01:19:26,700 --> 01:19:30,000
tonight?
Almost gave up drinking, man.

1180
01:19:30,900 --> 01:19:33,200
Anytime we lose.
We're on the verge of almost

1181
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,900
given up drinking and then we
pound several beers in the

1182
01:19:35,907 --> 01:19:38,900
course of an hour.
While we're doing this, check

1183
01:19:38,900 --> 01:19:42,000
him out, Spotify.
Apple music are buddies.

1184
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,300
He's down in the NRV, hopefully
be putting up some new material

1185
01:19:46,300 --> 01:19:52,200
soon.
If you do you guys, whether they

1186
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:59,500
win or whether they lose as
always, let's go Hokies We're

1187
01:19:59,500 --> 01:20:06,400
almost gave up drinking.
I could beg the three things.

1188
01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:11,400
I even started exercising.