We regret to inform you that, after a 12 year battle with mediocrity and irrelevance, the Virginia Tech football program was pronounced dead on September 6th 2025 at 10:57PM in Blacksburg, VA. The program is survived by living legend Frank Beamer, Bud Foster, and a myriad of football alumni that helped build a rough around the edges but beloved team into a perennial ten win program and Championship contender. Wake was held September 9th 2025 at 9PM. Thanks to all that showed up to eulogize this program and air their grievances.
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Welcome back to the Boundary
Corner Podcast, a part of the
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College held network.
Along with my partners Brian
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Siegler, Jonathan Talley and
Shelton Moss, I am Curtis
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Wilson.
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I got from him this weekend.
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Very frustrated hokey.
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the game because something hits
you inside, that's how I just
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gotta watch it.
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at this place.
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Check it out.
We always put the link in the
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chat.
I'm putting up something for
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things to read here.
Yep, there's always time.
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We'll put the link in the chat
for it.
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Also visit Moments on the Mori
in their Instagram page.
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Speaking of links in the chat,
we got the the link in the chat
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for the family out there, the
listeners out there to come and
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join us tonight.
This is this is a therapy
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session.
This is an Irish wake.
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We're.
We're still telling the truth,
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though.
We're, we're saying goodbye,
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man.
Curtis, you got the you got the
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Hulk in the background ready to
Hulk out here.
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I'm throwing a link there in the
chat and if you guys see it in
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there, the stream yard link.
That's the way you can jump on
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here with us if you want to get
a little something off your
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chest here as well in the
process.
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So looking forward to hearing
from everybody.
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Maybe not new King, new king.
This is family only tonight, but
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I appreciate you in the chat.
There, let new King come in and
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shit, he'll be doing better than
our coach.
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He at least knows what winning
the hills.
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We might need to listen to him.
Hell.
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Hey man, he might have something
to to impart upon us and we
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certainly.
Are.
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Well, listen, so if y'all see
it, go ahead.
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Hold on, Charlie.
Real quick, this is the link you
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click in the chat to come
basically air your grievances.
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You ain't getting the full hour,
you ain't getting two hours.
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We're going to give you a few
minutes, Yeah.
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This is space rules.
This is not you got the mic for
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as long as you want the mic.
This is, you know, come on,
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let's say a little thing.
We'll maybe do a little back and
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forth and we'll get the next one
up there, but we just wanted to
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hear from everybody.
I think, you know, when we
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looked at the Fuente area, I
think a lot of people pointed to
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that Liberty game is kind of the
breaking point.
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I know it was for Curtis and I
and I think, you know, for a lot
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of fan bases and a lot,
especially everybody on this
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podcast, I think this Vanderbilt
lost and the way it went down
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was kind of a breaking point for
us.
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So here we.
Are well, hold on, we voted.
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We voted after this game
Saturday, all four of us.
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We I sent a message and I said,
y'all, and I'm the optimistic
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one usually of this crew.
I am a very optimistic person,
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life in general.
And I was like, I'm out, I'm
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out.
I can't do it anymore.
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So I'm out right now.
I'm still going to watch the
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game.
I and I said here and I told
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somebody earlier, I hope I'm
fucking wrong.
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I hope I'm absolutely wrong and
it's 10 and two in East Ember
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and I am eating crow.
That's what I hope.
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There is no hope, Curtis.
But I don't feel it anymore.
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I don't feel the hope is gone
again.
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I hope that happens, but it's
gone.
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Yeah, it's no hope.
You you can hope it.
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I'm glad that you've you are
that kind of person because
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sometimes that's what we need.
But what we also need is to be
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truthful with ourselves.
And that's what I love about
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what we do.
And again, what Curtis was
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saying, we love y'all, we are
family.
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We're glad that y'all TuneIn and
spend some time with us.
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I ran a space after the game
till probably about 2:33 in the
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morning, just getting some stuff
out, letting people vent.
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It's great, man.
I love Hokey Nation.
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I love my guys, but this is not
what you want to see.
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This is what what we've been
saying is not we want to say I
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know we're going to get into it,
but just going over some of the
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rules, not really.
I want to call them rules.
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That sounds bad, but just what
we, what we want to do here.
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If you got something, we want
you to come in.
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We do want to hear from you.
Please use the link.
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Hop on.
Tell us how you feel and where
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you're at right now.
You ain't got 10 minutes.
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You ain't got five.
You got about 3 minutes.
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Come on, tell us how you feel,
drop your point and then we got
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to go to the next person.
So unless you unless you know
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some stuff that we don't know if
is he getting fired?
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If you come over here and say
he's getting fired, we're going
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to let you talk all night
because we ready to hear that.
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But anyway, Sheldon, you've been
quiet, man.
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Are you here with me today?
No, I'm just I'm, I'm prepping
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my laundry list of attack points
that I can, I can cure this
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coaching staff with.
When you hear laundry list,
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attack points and skewer coming
from Shelton, you better get
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ready.
You got to be in for a long
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night, buddy.
I try to tell you all how
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however bad you think the prior
has been, it's actually worse
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than you think so.
It's just eye opening, man.
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It was eye opening.
It's because most of the time
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you've seen a team that hasn't
really quit on a coach or hasn't
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quit playing in a lot of games.
We like, Oh, we almost there.
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We keep losing these close
games.
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No, we to the point now where we
getting we getting ran off the
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field.
You know, it's just and it was a
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little bit last it was a little
bit the first week where it was
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a close game going into the 4th
and then we couldn't manufacture
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nothing.
And then they just end up
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beating us by two scores.
Then last week, you know you
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had. 10 point lead.
You're a 10 point lead going
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into halftime lead and then it
just snowballs until a joke.
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You know, I put a tweet out
earlier and I'll talk about it a
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little later.
I don't want to get into
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everything now, but again,
people think that I'm bashing
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tradition and I'm bashing the
interest and I'm not.
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But if you look at it, it is a
joke.
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It's a gimmick.
You know what I'm saying?
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It's like I don't even know what
the what to compare it to.
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I like to go through metaphors.
There's nothing to compare it to
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you.
Everybody said we can't get rid
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of that.
We can't we have we What are we
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needed for it?
Use it for motivation.
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I don't know how you do it or
what you do, but I'm tired of
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every weekend y'all telling me
how great the entrance is and
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then we get killed on the field
and other teams are using us as
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a joke.
Their their PR teams are always
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exit sent, man them or exit, you
know, in a I'm tired of all of
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that.
When you ask for the joke is
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what?
It is.
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Come on man, we.
Got our first person first
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person jump on is.
I think I'm I'm friend, right?
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Hey, good evening.
Can y'all hear me first go?
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Round here.
We got to be there.
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I'm clear, Vito.
Yeah, don't the visual, don't
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worry about the visual.
I'm in bed and Xbox that's.
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That's OK.
I'm in bed playing Xbox.
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I'm, I mean, listen, I'm hot.
Ain't gonna hold.
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I'm hot.
What I can talk about.
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I can talk or you can say.
You have the floor for the next
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couple minutes, man, it's all
this.
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Is this is the hold up before
you start veto?
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Like I said, I didn't get all
into it, but this is the
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realistic is it's going to get
you ain't got to hold nothing
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back.
Say what you got to.
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Say OK we ain't got to play no
politic games on here.
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I know y'all got relationships.
You say what you got.
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To say.
I like Brent, pride of person.
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I think we all do right.
We all like Brent pride of
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person.
I don't like being proud of
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coach man.
It's it's it's it's year 4 and I
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can appreciate what he's done as
far as having to fix what
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dickhead left him.
You know, I can I understand
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that.
I'm not here to act like he did
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nothing, but it's at a point now
where it's time for we we need a
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complete.
We need a complete change from
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the top down.
We got listen with Babcock and
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you're going to have your day in
the sun.
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Excuse me, you're going to have
your day in the sun too with
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Babcock.
But we talking ball right now.
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We need somebody away from the
family because even when they
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did it with Fuente, they tried
to saddle him down with Beamer
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stuff like now we need a
complete.
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We need to detach from all of
it.
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We need a whole new vision for
Virginia Tech football.
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Shout out to Brent Price.
He's a great guy.
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Probably all this shit, you
know, all that shit.
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They said he had a big Dick and
all that weird shit, all, you
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know, whatever.
But we need somebody that's got
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a vision for Virginia Tech
football that's going to take us
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into the future.
No more Frank disciples.
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No more Bud Foster disciples.
Nothing like that.
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The only person affiliated with
Virginia Tech that realistically
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could get this head coaching job
within three years.
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We'll beat Michael Vick, but we
don't know if he's ready to run
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a program to recruit and all
that shit.
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Shout out to him.
You know he's from the city.
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We're from the same city.
But I think we need to go into a
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different direction and not
saddle the next AD or coach with
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the you need to be like Frank
because Frank was a one of one.
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Ain't going to be no more Frank
Beamers.
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That's my thing.
That's real, man.
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That's that's that's like I was
just telling the guys to kind of
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put a tweet out similar to that
earlier, just about it got some
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Flack from it.
But what what Vito said is I, I
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feel it so great.
Great stuff.
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Vito, I'll say just real quick,
because I know you, you're doing
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your thing.
Did you?
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Because I, I, I talked to you.
So I know how you feel, but I
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want you to kind of tell him a
little bit about did you feel
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that the end was was there at
the beginning of the season or
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was it just this game that you
was like, I'm broke, That's it?
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In in my in my honest opinion,
we knew let me not speak other
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people.
I knew he was going to lose in
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South Carolina.
And the only question I kept
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asking myself and others was was
the performance in South
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Carolina bullshit or was that
did we really kind of turn the
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corner defensively?
Because I'm the Virginia Tech
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fan that get on people nerves
because I'm the person that's
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always that's not like just kill
everybody that leads the program
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for good or bad reasons.
So I'm the one saying, hey, I
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don't got to say nobody's names
and all that, but hey, what do
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these players actually suck or
were they good that that we just
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saying that we better off now?
You know, I hate to piss on
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people's parade, but I'm like,
we kind of lost some good
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players and I was just told that
we was better off.
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So I don't argue with people.
I just asked the questions
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before the games are played
because people normally feel
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their best before the season.
So I'm like, Hey, y'all show
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these guys good and I watched
the South Carolina game and I'm
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seeing a *** named Tackle Fall.
I know his name is Tackle, but
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they they tag Tackle Falls.
So I'm seeing Tackle Fall get a
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TfL.
I'm seeing, you know, shout out
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the Emmett Laws.
Emmett Laws had that game in his
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life.
I'm like, y'all sure this is the
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real team, but maybe we would
just gas up in South Carolina.
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We're playing in Atlanta.
If you're going to get Shane, is
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this the MPA?
You know, they're like, no, it's
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the real defensive line we keep
as hell.
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And then the very next week, not
even six days later, Vanderbilt
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is running through big assholes.
So it's looking like I predicted
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6 and six.
We're we're headed towards 6:00
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and 6:00.
But it's just I get tired of the
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propaganda, the last the
spending the coke, the bullshit.
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It it makes me disillusioned as
a Virginia Tech fan because I
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know what the hell I'm looking
at.
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But I keep getting told it's
raining and I pissed.
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That's all.
That's all I got to say before I
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start saying shit.
The fuck y'all relationship
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stuff?
Oh.
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You good, they already there so.
Yeah, we're getting there, man.
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You ain't got to worry about
that bro.
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I mean appreciate.
You at this point we kind of
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figured you know, we we we see
the way the wind's blowing man
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let's let's send this off the
right way.
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Let's let's get the fans out
there.
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Let's let's let them talk a
little bit.
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We appreciate you, Vito and
always.
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Thank you.
Jump on with us and let before I
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leave, let me just say Boundary
Corner podcast has always been
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the best Virginia Tech podcast.
And that's no shade that nobody
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else.
Y'all just better than everybody
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else.
Y'all was better than me when I
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was doing this shit and I've
been doing this shit for a long
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time.
So shout out to BCP.
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Y'all always do the work.
Y'all always do the research
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before games and I always enjoy
listening to y'all interview
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people or do content because
doing content is hard.
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Like people don't understand how
much they give me a job.
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Especially if he ain't making a
whole bunch of money doing this
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shit.
So shout out to y'all man.
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Everybody shout out to all
y'all.
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Appreciate your e-mail.
Appreciate your vivo.
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Thanks for coming on.
With us, man, my guy, people
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don't know man.
Vito is a he's another be a new
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game OG of of.
Doing this shit.
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He knows his stuff, whether you
listen to him or not or you
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haven't listened to him, you you
should check out some of his
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stuff.
Vito actually was the first
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person that I got on that I got
on a podcast with.
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I don't even think it came out
because me and him ended up just
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talking for like 3 hours.
But anyway, Vito, thank you for
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coming on man.
Who we got next, Brian?
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John Earle, Boys.
John Earle.
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John Earl.
No picture for John Earl either.
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Hey, what's on?
There he.
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Is where's the Miller?
Where's the Miller?
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Right here in the Way tonight,
boys.
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Dude I have an alumni event
tonight.
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I literally just got back so I'm
here all.
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Right, so go.
What are you feeling, man?
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I mean, you've been around this
program for a long, long time
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with your parents taking you up.
You were at the game Saturday.
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I know you.
You told us you were heading up.
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You're supposed to have a Are
you going back this weekend?
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Yeah, he's going.
Oh, he's.
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Yeah, I'm going up this weekend
with one of my neighbors who's
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never been to a Virginia Tech
game ever.
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And I literally texted him after
the game, after I got back to my
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hotel in Christiansburg, I said
I've never felt so disappointed
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in the second-half in a long ass
time.
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And he's like, wow, 34 points in
the second-half.
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I was like, you haven't
experienced pretty tech football
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the way I have.
But yeah.
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And I literally so my parents
have club seats and as soon as
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we did not go for it on 4th down
one on the very first possession
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in the second-half that.
Was a person.
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Ever.
No.
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I agree.
I agree.
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No.
Everybody in the East dance
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around me said we're losing this
game.
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Yeah, kid you not.
That's not and and the thing
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about that too, John, I'm glad
that you are talking about that
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'cause you was there.
I'm watching it on TV for people
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who in for, you know, chat.
I know y'all was watching or
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probably some of y'all was
there.
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That's not anybody being a
hater.
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That's what you built as a
coach.
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That's the reputation that you
have.
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Whenever that happened,
everybody said, OK, this game is
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going to go just like the other
fucking how many games you've
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been here?
35 games, 40 games somewhere
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around now.
So I think he's 16 and 23
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somewhere around there.
So yeah, that's right around 40
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games.
So it's like this is what you
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built, this is what you are.
This is what we know.
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But we've seen the team have
fight, but at that point it
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looked like they're on their
sideline going crazy.
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They coaches are yelling at the
refs, which they should have
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been wanting to win, throwing
headsets, running on the field,
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and our coach is over there
clapping his hands, scratching
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his balls.
Come on man.
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The the notepad at this point is
getting the the the notepad is
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killing me man.
I'm I'm like.
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Quit it, there ain't shit else
to write down.
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At some point get, get, get a,
get an intern to do that for you
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and you, you be engaged in the
game, you be active.
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You got to get active during
these games.
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John I did.
John, I'll just go ahead.
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Curtis, get it back to me.
Earl real real quick, like us 4
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wearing some chats with you.
Are you out?
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Are you?
Are you out?
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I'm definitely out on prime at
this point as is like my whole
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family pretty much.
OK, I'm out.
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I'm out on with as well, but I
feel like that's been known for
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a while.
But yeah, but about.
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Sayings We taking it all the way
up to the top.
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We going sands all the way down.
You you might, you might as
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well.
But I will say I I dug in a
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little.
Deeper there today because I'm a
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fucking nerd.
I will say I will say the
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interesting fact that I found is
hub prize home games.
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He's only had three games that
weren't sold out.
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Damn, and I was sort of 20.
Two in 2022 Georgia Tech and
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Wofford and then 2023 Syracuse,
and that street will probably.
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End.
This weekend.
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Yeah.
It's not this weekend, it's
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definitely in Wofford.
All right.
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Well, Earl, appreciate you
jumping on with us, man.
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Always fun to talk with you.
We're going to let somebody else
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up in here because the next
person we're going to let up.
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Well, he pay the bills, so he
got to get his FaceTime talking,
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man.
Appreciate it, Earl.
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Hey, hey, what up?
What is going on, man?
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What up by the way?
Burn it all down, I.
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Always write something.
Hang on, I'm drawing up a play
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here and I'm going to figure it
all out.
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But I mean, we live.
I've been going to tech games
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since I was in the womb.
It's probably going to be
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backwards and it's in pencil.
I don't know if y'all can see
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that, but it says we deserve
better.
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Like, just like the guy who was
just on like so many sellouts
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with so much mediocrity and like
Chris Coleman, that Tech
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sideline and those guys have
finally been telling the truth
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about what the fuck has been
going on and how bad it is.
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And it's so bad.
Like, we're this little podunk
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little school in little old
Virginia Tech.
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And it's hard to believe that
what was it 20 years ago, 24
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years ago, we had the highest
paid coaching staff in the
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country, your second highest
paid.
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We couldn't figure out that's
what it took.
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I'm still wearing my damn hokey
shirt.
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I told Curtis fucking I'm done
with it.
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But I'm a basketball fan, so
this is a basketball shirt.
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This is not a football shirt.
Neo, neo, Neo.
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I'm going to the Bahamas.
Don't tell my kids they don't
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know yet, but we're going to.
My ass going to be on TV and I'm
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going to be repping the boundary
corner logo, I hope.
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But I'm just tired of it all.
Do not worry Phil.
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Phil is going to do a live
remote call in from Atlantis in
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November.
There you go, Let him get up.
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Here 1885 like, come on, man.
Like I'm just like Frankie
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Allen.
He was terrible coach too.
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Not as bad as coach print pride.
And I'm tired of hearing he's a
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nice guy.
I don't care.
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He's paid four and a half
million dollars.
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Be an asshole.
Step up.
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Why are we not yelling at
people?
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Why are we not yelling at?
People, I get that.
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I don't.
Everybody says it.
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He's like I'm getting my paid no
matter what.
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I don't that's what it feels
like.
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I don't get it.
It's just when people like feel
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when people when I'm when I'm
doing a space indeed.
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And I get some people say well
y'all have to understand and I
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said I don't have to understand.
He's a millionaire to be a
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loser.
Multi millionaire multi
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millionaire living in
Blacksburg, VA making four and a
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half, $1,000,000 to not coach
and to go to PKS and drink.
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But he loves the almond
brothers, so it's cool, man.
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Let's go, let's go.
It's.
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Cool almond brothers.
Fuck Almond Joy.
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I got almond.
The whole thing, but like
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honestly, the bigger issue like
look and the more I think about
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it, I would love that Fuente
back and his coaching ability
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with the resources that Brent
Pryor had would have been nice
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like Fuente with the talent last
year.
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Come on man, that wouldn't even
been fair in my opinion.
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And.
Fuente was a piece of shit
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though.
He he just, he was going to run
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people off because of how he was
as a person.
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He could maybe, but he just not
go to schools in Virginia and
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say we just gonna go to Texas
and that shit don't work.
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So I get where you coming from,
Phil, but it's like it's
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coaching.
The building was pretty.
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Good, where?
How screwed we are Tally that.
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I think Fuente is the answer
now, but.
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What the issue is, is this had
two chances to hire a coach and
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he's hired one total coach
between two of them.
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He hired a guy that could coach
but couldn't do everything else,
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and he had a guy hired a guy
that could do everything else.
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But he can't coach he.
Forgets everything that we're
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talking about for a minute and
then I'm going to let y'all
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throw it back to field for a
second.
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Come and chat.
I need y'all to understand the
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severity it is.
Phil is so fucked up that he
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said send me back to the
oppressor.
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Give me point, give me, give me.
Give me, Give me water bottle.
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Give me the water bottle.
That's how fucked up he is.
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That.
Speaks volumes.
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It's so frustrating, I don't
know, but maybe it's my fault
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for having high expectations
and.
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No.
No, but like 3 sellouts like
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with it's there.
I'm tired of all the excuses but
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we need to start from the top
like it's been a mess for a long
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time or two.
Parochial, we have been this all
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shucks attitude.
We'll figure it out.
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Like the fundraising has never
been there.
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We don't even have a head of
fundraising in the right place.
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Like I don't I don't know, look,
I don't have the answers, but
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I'm also if you pay me $4
million, I'd pay somebody to get
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the damn answers.
I can tell you that like like I
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don't I'd pay somebody a hell of
a lot smarter than me.
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I wouldn't do anything.
I'd be up there with a remote
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control.
Like look, I'm doing everything,
445
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,040
but I'm not doing shit.
Like that's what it looks like
446
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,440
he's doing.
Like they said at one point
447
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,600
somebody he was trying to call a
time out in the game and
448
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,920
somebody was pulling him back
saying don't call a time out,
449
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,440
dummy.
We got plenty of time to call
450
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,240
the time out that Chris was like
pulling him back at the end of
451
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,040
the half.
He's just AI don't know.
452
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,320
I don't understand.
Like I've had enough beers to
453
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,400
call a better game than he has
in the second-half.
454
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,800
I don't get it.
I don't it doesn't.
455
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,640
So, but y'all keep doing what
you're doing.
456
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,040
I'm not I I quit hokey football,
but I'm still going to watch
457
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,880
because I don't have any hobbies
and two and like I love y'all
458
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,040
like keep doing what you're
doing.
459
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,360
Keep talking about it because
eventually somebody will see it
460
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:52,120
and they'll be like, damn, this
is where we need to be.
461
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,480
So damn Bill, basketball season
is coming.
462
00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:01,080
Neo is coming basketball.
Hey.
463
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,920
But listen, I told you as a
sponsor of this show, you get
464
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,560
first class treatment on in in
December when we do it and
465
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,320
that's like we get drunk and let
shit go.
466
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,880
We don't give a fuck bad things
that happened that night.
467
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,800
I mean, this is basically that,
just without all the alcohol
468
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,720
without.
All the alcohol.
469
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,240
Speak for yourself on that.
I don't know what.
470
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,000
You're talking about I'm, I'm
riding the Voodoo Ranger.
471
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,200
With a little bit, but you know
I ain't 10D.
472
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,280
I just, I don't know, Hoku fans
deserve better and I, and we
473
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,440
literally do when we're, I would
say this ODU, it feels like
474
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,360
every game is like this is the
biggest game ever.
475
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,600
We're going to see what the
stands look like at 7:00
476
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,720
Saturday night.
Yeah, we're going to see what
477
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,920
that looks like.
And I hope people still going to
478
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,600
be there, man.
What else?
479
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,320
Why not I?
I hope they.
480
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,440
I don't think they're going to
sell out, but I think people
481
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,480
still going to be there because
people love Virginia Tech, man,
482
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,920
They're going to show up.
Paper bag game Will everybody
483
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,600
wear paper bag?
Please, I hope, I hope some
484
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,520
people do something.
I just hope it's some kind of
485
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,880
peaceful protest.
Do something.
486
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,880
Peaceful protest.
Yeah, I don't know.
487
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,720
It'll be good.
Hey, women's soccer, man, let's
488
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,640
go.
It's going to be great.
489
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,280
Let's go.
Women's soccer and men's soccer.
490
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,240
Let's go.
That's what we got.
491
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,680
So.
Keep it up.
492
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,640
Thanks for jumping on man later.
We deserve better.
493
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,080
See y'all, we deserve better.
We deserve better.
494
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,920
By the way, that is one of our
sponsors from moments on the
495
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,640
Moray.
I've known Phil close to I guess
496
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,760
20 years now, because when I
started dating my wife, my wife
497
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,720
and his wife basically grew up
together.
498
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,080
And by the way, Phil, Phil,
Phil's the guy.
499
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,000
Let me get on Lot 1 one time.
Just so y'all know, he's the man
500
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,520
to brought Curtis to lot 1.
So one question about field and
501
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,640
moments on the boy.
How many rooms is?
502
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,480
How many rooms is that place
got?
503
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,560
So that place, if everybody
wants to know it is a four
504
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,120
bedroom place.
It's three full bedrooms with a
505
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,040
like bunk room for kids plus
pull out sofas.
506
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,040
I mean you can look at the the
link in there man.
507
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,840
You guys walk up deck.
It is, it's, it's, it's awesome.
508
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000
It's awesome.
It was so much fun going there
509
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,080
this summer with our families,
you know, pound me and him
510
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,920
pounding beers, talking about
this upcoming season.
511
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,760
So again, check it out.
You're supporting the Hokie when
512
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,080
you do that.
And obviously he ain't fucking
513
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,840
happy either.
He texted me that shit multiple
514
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,440
times over the weekend that he
was done with baseball.
515
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,040
Joe, get your ass off mute.
Joe, we're going to kick your
516
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,160
ass out if you don't get off
mute.
517
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,760
He probably ran to the bathroom
where she I was about to throw
518
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,440
at the shelf.
Joe.
519
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,600
Joe.
If you're speaking, we cannot
520
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,320
hear you.
Yeah, if you're saying I cannot
521
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,120
hear you, by the way, here you
go. 3 big bedrooms and a bunk
522
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,480
bed you can get.
You can get air mattresses on
523
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,200
the floors of those bedrooms.
Yeah.
524
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,840
Get this, Andretti.
Click the link.
525
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,400
Get in the link, Brian.
Put it in there.
526
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,320
We'll go, we'll go another one
here.
527
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,680
Andretti, you hearing us, man?
Click on and get with us.
528
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,520
Joe, We're going to give you
like I'm going to give you 30
529
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,640
seconds.
We can put you back in the
530
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,800
waiting room.
Yeah, like Chris said, he said.
531
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,480
Joe taking care of that baby it.
Probably is, yeah, you're.
532
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,280
Right.
Hey listen, the reason I was so
533
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,040
damn late coming tonight was
because wife went to the girls
534
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,840
night and I had to make sure the
kids were asleep before I ran in
535
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,800
here.
Right.
536
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,680
I never.
Asleep.
537
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,520
Now, we hadn't heard much from
the statistician, Shelton.
538
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,720
Yeah.
So you got anything that you
539
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,600
want to throw in?
I know you got a lot, but do you
540
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,440
got anything you just want to
throw in right now?
541
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,400
I mean, no, I'm, I'm kind of
sitting on my, my spiel right
542
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,920
now, but yeah, it's I, I, I
don't even know how it's like
543
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,840
physically possible to play that
bad in a single half.
544
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,320
Like getting out yarded by like
300.
545
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,080
I, I don't think I've ever seen
it before in my life.
546
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,560
Like we didn't have a single
good play in the entire half
547
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,920
that actually meant anything.
And I thought like we barely had
548
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,880
a, we, we didn't have a single
good defensive Dr. at all.
549
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,960
Like it's just shocking.
We we barely played like one
550
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,160
good defensive snap and I didn't
see any good offensive snaps
551
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,360
that whole second-half.
It it was, it was atrocious.
552
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,240
It was one of the worst halves
of football I've ever watched in
553
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,080
any sport.
And I've watched like Guyadette
554
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:19,200
play a playoff caliber Randolph
Bacon squad and and get
555
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,000
hammered.
And this was not even that I've
556
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,600
I've watched when you know, when
Thomas Jefferson was an awful
557
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,720
Richmond football program, play
some of the best of the best in
558
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,520
Highland Springs and some of the
others in the area and get you
559
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,400
just Molly walk back in the, you
know, 2000s and early twenty
560
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,960
10's.
And this for for the half that
561
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,160
we watched, that was the worst
I've seen in terms of lopsided
562
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,360
performances.
That was it.
563
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,240
It was depressing.
That was it.
564
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,840
There was effectively with no
fight, no thought, no game plan.
565
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,640
What you said, Talia.
There was no fire on the
566
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,280
sidelines ripping people and
screaming at people.
567
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,160
It was there was a look somebody
caught, I think, and it
568
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,320
literally said it was late 3rd
or early fourth quarter.
569
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,360
That picture were probably just
sitting there just like glancing
570
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,720
like, what?
What the Hell's happening?
571
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,400
And it's like you're getting
paid.
572
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,840
As Phil said, you were getting
paid four and a half, $1,000,000
573
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,360
to coach football.
So yeah, hey, listen, I love all
574
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,360
the comments in the chat, don't
get me wrong, but this is about
575
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,640
y'all, the things y'all were
typing.
576
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,760
Get on here, say them.
If you have a video, cool.
577
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,920
If you don't have video, as long
as we can hear your voice, this
578
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,120
is what it's about.
Tonight, we're just telling the
579
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,840
truth about where the program is
in general, and it's not in a
580
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,480
good spot.
Now saying that, I think we will
581
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,120
all agree where we are as far as
relationship ways with high
582
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,800
schools probably fix that.
It's in a significantly better
583
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,120
spot than it was in 2020, the
end of 2021.
584
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,880
It is.
I feel like somebody put a good
585
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,920
tweet out.
I can't remember who it was.
586
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,120
I wish I could remember the
name, username 571 Hokey or
587
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,400
something.
They pretty much said something
588
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,480
like, you know, Pride was a good
caretaker.
589
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,800
He did a great job of yes, for
the program and getting the
590
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,720
program to a certain spot, but
he's not a good head coach.
591
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,240
It's time for you.
It's time for us to get a real
592
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,360
head coach in that knows how to
win, that knows how to build.
593
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,520
That's what it is, man.
It's like it's, it's, it's just
594
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,880
if he was getting paid $950,000
maybe, and we had to, you know,
595
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,200
I hate that.
It's always about money, but
596
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,360
it's about money.
Like he's getting paid really
597
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,240
good money to be a bad coach.
And like I said, I know
598
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,480
Sheldon's sitting on his,
sitting on his, on his, on his,
599
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,560
his point, his points that he's
going to make.
600
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,320
But some of this stuff is
alarming when you look at like
601
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,920
records, records against winning
teams, records against, you
602
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,920
know, when you're leading a game
at this, like it's just O and
603
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,520
16, you know, one in one in 17.
It's it's crazy numbers, man.
604
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,360
They're just tired of it.
So it, it is no, from my from my
605
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,800
perspective, there is no, you
know, if we do this, if we're,
606
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,720
we're losing, we're losers.
We're not winning nothing.
607
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,720
You know, even even going into
this weekend, I'm saying we're
608
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,200
going to lose.
I don't, I, I won't pick us to
609
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,880
win against anybody because of
what I've seen Saturday night.
610
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,560
It was, it was terrible.
Like Sheldon said, we got out
611
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840
game.
I think we had negative yards in
612
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,080
the second-half.
All right, here we go.
613
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,080
Here we.
Go.
614
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,400
Oh man, first of all.
Andre.
615
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,960
Always in the chat, always
lighten it up.
616
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,000
Andretti.
Welcome to BCP, buddy.
617
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,320
Can you hear us?
We can't hear you, Andretti.
618
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,960
If you talk, not hear you.
OK, We hear you a little bit.
619
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,560
Hear you a little bit.
Make sure you got the speaker
620
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,400
on.
Can you hear me?
621
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,600
Very, very low.
Very low.
622
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,320
Yeah.
Let me try to let me try to ramp
623
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,400
you up here.
Hang on just a second.
624
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,480
Hold on, stay on the line, stay
on the line.
625
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,280
I should have called my neighbor
about how to do this shit man.
626
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,560
Messing.
Me up.
627
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,800
All right, give that a go.
Let's see what we got.
628
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,840
Go ahead.
I I can hear you.
629
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,440
OK, Here we go.
Hey.
630
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,960
Hey.
Now we can hear you.
631
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,560
We got you.
Not enough.
632
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,239
Yeah, we good.
Go ahead, man.
633
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,880
How you feeling Andrada?
Tell us how you feel.
634
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:31,320
Tell us how you feeling brother.
Man, fuck.
635
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:31,960
Tech.
Man.
636
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,199
You got the Eagles hat on, you
say.
637
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,480
You done like?
I'm pissed, man, I'm pissed.
638
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,679
I feel you.
I mean, I think that's kind of
639
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,760
how we all are right now, yeah.
Pride drones all them got to go
640
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,400
bro.
I don't like nobody no more I'm.
641
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,719
Serious ship.
Ship them all off.
642
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,320
Andre said he hate everything
right now about Virginia Tech.
643
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,200
I don't even like #20 no more.
I'm done worried about just call
644
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,200
it burn the whole house down.
Yeah, I'm.
645
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,000
I'm sick of them bro.
No, I get it.
646
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000
I understand, man.
I mean, that's kind of how we
647
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,760
how everybody feeling.
So I I got a lot of friends,
648
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,120
man.
We beef all the time.
649
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,960
My boys like Penn State, of
course, everybody like Ohio
650
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,920
State.
So everybody called me.
651
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,680
You still fucking with the
hokey?
652
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,880
I'm like God.
Damn man, they tried to recruit
653
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,760
you.
That's dirty.
654
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,400
They trying to recruit you.
Yeah, it's bad.
655
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,800
They dropping bags.
They dropping bags and ready.
656
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,600
Come on.
Yeah, it's bad.
657
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,920
It's bad.
We got.
658
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,080
I'm sick man, I don't think we
going to be old to you.
659
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,280
I definitely don't feel good
about it.
660
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,000
I feel the.
The line went from 10 1/2 to 7
661
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,560
in like 12 hours.
If you that tells you how
662
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,080
everybody's feeling about us.
How are we?
663
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Going to win if you can't block.
Yeah, 2 starting line lineman
664
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,360
get hurt.
And that's all it took for the
665
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,080
wheels to fall off, apparently,
apparently.
666
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Hold on, hold on.
How do we not have a mitigation
667
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,840
strategy for alignment going
down?
668
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,600
Like at some point, like you got
to be, you got to not only not
669
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,320
only account for that in your
depth, but account for that as
670
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,880
an offensive coordinator.
Like that's almighty.
671
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,720
You got to say, all right, well,
we, we don't have the time that
672
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,320
we normally have.
We don't have this, we don't
673
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,720
have that.
I've got to do something to get
674
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,360
the ball out of my quarterbacks
hands fast.
675
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,480
We got to take advantage of this
pass rush that they're bringing,
676
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,120
none of that.
Yeah, man, coaches are valid.
677
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,240
Can we really get Gruden can.
We, we, we, we.
678
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:49,760
Well, that's the whole thing.
The first thing is you got to
679
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,440
let everything out and how you
feel and it's coming out now.
680
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,760
Everybody there is effectively
from everything that I have read
681
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,640
and we have probably read the
last 72 hours, ain't nobody on
682
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,720
their side anymore.
And if people start not getting
683
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:06,200
on their side, the people who
have a lot of this, who give
684
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,400
that money is going to say, I'm
not giving you this 10 million
685
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,840
this year unless some shit
changes.
686
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,360
So this is the area of the
grievances because I think we
687
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,520
all get to feel that probably in
the next couple months it's all
688
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,200
going to happen.
They're going to hold the money
689
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,280
out there, but they're going to
have them tight hands on it or
690
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,520
say hey, hey.
Shit going to change I'm.
691
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,320
Not letting this go until
something happens.
692
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,040
So Andrey, real quick before we
we let you go, just how did you
693
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,160
up in Philly, man?
How did you become a a tech?
694
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,120
No, no, I'm from, I'm from
there.
695
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,040
I'm in.
I'm in 757 now.
696
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,920
OK, OK.
Did you?
697
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,200
Become a tech fan up there when
you got down to 7 five.
698
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,480
No in the PA.
OK, how did that happen?
699
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Explain Like was it Victoria?
Was it somebody else or no, No,
700
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,400
I'm actually Victoria age.
It's just it seemed like tech
701
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,120
and the eagles seem like the
same thing to me.
702
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,080
Hard nosed, gritty, great
defense.
703
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,320
Our.
Offense was shitty back in the
704
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,280
days we we just had a buddy Ryan
defense that would kill anything
705
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,640
and the hokey seemed the same
way to me always kind of
706
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,760
undecized strong.
Nobody wanted to play As for
707
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,840
real, for real, we as hell.
It's just I'm true, man, for
708
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,000
real.
Man, I'm sad give you 4 quarters
709
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,280
of hell.
Win or lose, we won't give you 4
710
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,880
quarters of hell.
Yep.
711
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,240
Well, Andretti, listen to me.
Please do this, man.
712
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,880
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go
ahead.
713
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,120
Teach me.
Charlie got on me last year.
714
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,000
I was calling for these dudes
heads.
715
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,880
I did.
I was a dummy.
716
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640
I was a dummy.
You was right.
717
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,160
I was wrong.
I'm mad enough to admit it.
718
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,280
You said it and you was right.
I was like, chill out.
719
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,360
Andre did.
Now you should.
720
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,240
I should have said no.
He's right.
721
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,960
I need to pay attention to what
he's saying because you said you
722
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,880
called it.
Yeah, dude, too soft bro, you
723
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,400
called it.
But he too soft, man.
724
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,440
You called it Andre did one 100%
called it brother too.
725
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,680
Soft man.
Andretti, we appreciate you
726
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,880
jumping on.
We're going to have to move on
727
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,960
to the next person.
But shoot.
728
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,720
Me, the lead man.
Listen to us.
729
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,600
Listen to us.
You're I thought you were in
730
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,400
Philly, man.
You're in the 75.
731
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,200
You got to let us know when
you're heading to a game
732
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,040
because, like, somebody might be
there.
733
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,880
So let us know when you head up,
OK?
734
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,680
All right, All right, man, Take
care.
735
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,480
Appreciate you jumping on this.
Yes, Sir.
736
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,440
Go birds.
Go birds.
737
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,720
Hi Andretti.
Andretti entertaining as ever.
738
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:46,760
Now we got VB Hokey up in here.
VB Hokey speak of peace.
739
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Good evening, gentlemen.
Did you guys hear a prize press
740
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,120
conference today where he was
talking up ODU like they were
741
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,320
Ohio State?
I think he that's a alluding to
742
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,680
ODU next week.
He is.
743
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,560
He is worried.
I mean, why not?
744
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,240
You see what the quarterback did
from a rushing standpoint, like
745
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:04,880
they're running the ball with
that quarterback.
746
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,600
We saw what Diego Pavia did to
us in the second-half there, I
747
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,040
mean.
There's definitely some
748
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,800
concerns.
So it it's just, it's weird
749
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,360
seeing that type of posture from
the head coach, especially
750
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,720
coming off that kind of loss
from Vandy.
751
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,600
Yeah, and then, you know, in
true Virginia Tech fashion, they
752
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,560
just really couldn't have picked
the better time to suck with all
753
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,080
this conference realignment
stuff going on, Man, My, my fear
754
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,800
that it just gives me
nightmares.
755
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,880
We're going to end up sucking
like a Big 12.
756
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,320
You know, because the ACC is.
Going to go down a toilet bowl
757
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,200
when Miami and you will first
UNC is going to be the first one
758
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,760
out.
So that's just going to be like
759
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,920
the death flow.
The people on Tobacco Rd. are
760
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,960
just going to lose their tips.
And you know, obviously Florida
761
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,800
State and Clemson are gone.
It's just a matter of time.
762
00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:00,360
So yeah, is it?
True, we had an invite to go to
763
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,680
the SEC like 12 years ago.
It was under, it was not under
764
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,960
Whit's watch.
It was under Jim Weaver's watch.
765
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,760
It was going to be us in Texas
A&M, not in Missouri.
766
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,280
It was going to be us in Texas
A&M.
767
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:18,000
And at that point in time, all
things being equal, they were
768
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,160
pretty much on the same footing
as far as the ACC and the SEC
769
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,160
went back then.
I believe it was going to be A&M
770
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,640
somebody Shelton, you might you
might have something on that.
771
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,280
But yeah, that was a possibility
in 2012.
772
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,120
So that was that was Jim Weaver.
Jim, there's a lot of people
773
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,760
that could have been his.
Swan song there on his way out,
774
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,760
but.
It could have been it could have
775
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,840
been so absolutely.
Well, I mean, they'll the ACC is
776
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,600
what it is.
It, you know, founded by all the
777
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,160
tobacco Rose School and they
consider themselves a basketball
778
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,200
first conference.
So that's a problem.
779
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,520
And you know, the, the schools
from an academic mindset, you
780
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,680
know, the UVA and even, you
know, the Wake Forest and now
781
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,400
you bring in like Stanford and
Cal from an academic standpoint,
782
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,400
they're all aligned.
But at the end of the day, you
783
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,520
know, research don't pay the
bills.
784
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,920
It's the TV media deal and the
ACC is just hosed.
785
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,280
Yeah, and the the new, you know,
Nike contract extension didn't
786
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,120
do us any favors on that point.
So I'm sure somebody's going to
787
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,880
talk about that a little bit
more here shortly.
788
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:35,120
But we we've definitely put
ourselves behind the 8 ball by
789
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,520
not adapting fast enough, by
still still being a mom and pop
790
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,040
operation for way too long.
But at the same time, we are
791
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,120
still funded and we still have
enough talent on this roster
792
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,080
where we should be able to go
out there and handle a
793
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,800
Vanderbilt.
We should be able to go out
794
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,400
there and handle a lot of these
teams that we've been
795
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,080
consistently losing to like
Rutgers 2 years in a row and
796
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,400
stuff like that.
So at the end of the day, if
797
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,520
you're not winning the games,
you should win regardless.
798
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,680
It's kind of hard to make a
justification to give you all
799
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,960
this extra money because what
are you going to do with it?
800
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,840
Well that's always been my
problem with Virginia Tech.
801
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,240
Even in the years were good.
We end up losing as soon as we
802
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,480
shouldn't.
I mean, nobody says we have to
803
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,560
go 12 an O every year, but damn,
you should go nine and three at
804
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,040
work.
You could go 8 and four.
805
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,240
I mean those 4 losses could be
their teams that.
806
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,840
Have more money than we do.
Have more talent than we do.
807
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000
We should never have lost to an.
ODU.
808
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,760
And we should.
Never have lost to Vanderbilt
809
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,880
and God knows we should have
never lost to Rutgers.
810
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,880
You have to beat the team you're
supposed to be.
811
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,320
That's that's really it.
At the end of the day, if you
812
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,040
can't do that, you are crashed.
You're trash.
813
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,960
And it is a reason Brent Pry is
on the way out of the door
814
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,080
because you take a look at all
the losses.
815
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,640
You know, VB Hokey, you say it
all those games, Purdue,
816
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,920
Rutgers, even the ODU the first
year, the Liberty.
817
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,480
Well, I go back to Fuente here
because believe it or not, try
818
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,520
actually beat liberty.
I'll go to the source of you on
819
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,160
episode.
Go back to 2020 when we fucking
820
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,320
lost Liberty and watch me lose
my fucking mind.
821
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,040
But anyway, VB hokey, we
appreciate you jumping on with
822
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,480
us tonight.
Again, y'all stay in the
823
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,360
comments.
If you want to jump in here,
824
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,440
click the link.
We got people waiting and now we
825
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,880
got Gilbert in.
Gilbert, speak your peace.
826
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,120
Well, good evening.
Gentlemen, it's great to be here
827
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,480
with all of you and I wish it
was under better circumstances,
828
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,640
but if I can just I guess part
my thoughts on this, you know,
829
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,480
obviously very disappointing
against two SEC teams to me
830
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,240
losing those two games.
Kind of translates to what are
831
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:44,840
we going to be like in the ACC
in our conference schedule.
832
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,240
I mean, we're not going to be
playing ODU and Wofford every
833
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:51,040
game.
So that is the concern and also
834
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,360
it's just the outcomes of these
games, especially next two.
835
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,960
If we destroy ODU, is that a
good thing or a bad thing?
836
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,160
If we destroy Wofford, if it's a
good thing or a bad thing, it's
837
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,360
also a double edged sword
because if we barely beat ODU
838
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,360
and barely beat Wofford, what is
that message sending to the fan
839
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,880
base and all the boosters and
everyone else around?
840
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,040
So I think it's not just the
fact that it's a performance,
841
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,480
it's also the outcome and how
it.
842
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,480
Looks because I think this is
going to be setting for the.
843
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,760
Future here and if.
We had all these.
844
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,320
Recruits in these last game, I
mean, they just saw a complete
845
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,080
dumpster fire and that's not
going to be very good for our
846
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,000
future.
So then again, I'm hoping that
847
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,760
Brent is not part of our future.
I hope it's someone else.
848
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,880
And you know, it's it's it's
very sad.
849
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,040
It's very concerning.
A lot of these fans deserve
850
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,080
better.
And I know we try not to think.
851
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,000
Back about the early 2000s
Hokies, but I mean, at this
852
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,840
point it's just like it's all we
have our to hold on to
853
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,600
unfortunately.
Yeah, it's, it's a difficult
854
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,360
time, man.
And and when we look at this
855
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,040
program and kind of where we
fall.
856
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,760
And I think that the one
consistent thread that you
857
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,280
pointed out there is that this
fan base is showing up.
858
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:08,040
This fan base is giving the
support to the program that they
859
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,880
can.
But at some point, they can only
860
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,200
do so much and still keep
receiving this mediocre product
861
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,760
year in and year out.
There's going to be a tipping
862
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,880
point.
I'm wondering if it's this year.
863
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,400
If it's not this year, it's
definitely going to be in a lame
864
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,840
duck year.
If, if Brent Pride gets any sort
865
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:30,400
of reprieve beyond 2025, it's
going to get really ugly and
866
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,920
it's going to get ugly before it
gets better.
867
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,920
And, and, and I'm hoping that it
does get better.
868
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,560
But at this point, this is as
low as I felt about the program
869
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,240
because even at the end of the
Justin Fuente era, there was
870
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:43,200
still hope that the next guy can
get it done.
871
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,680
But right now, we're in the
doldrums.
872
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,520
We're in the thick of the shit.
And it it seems like there's not
873
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,800
going to really be another side
of that being able to come out
874
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,680
on the other side for at least a
good while.
875
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,920
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, we just changed
876
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,000
coordinator, so I'm hoping that
Brent doesn't use the excuse
877
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,560
like, well, I just brought in a
new staff.
878
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,080
They have to implement their
system.
879
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,720
And that thus gives him more
time to be the guy in command
880
00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:09,760
chair.
But I think at this point we've
881
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,280
seen that the results are just
not been any good.
882
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,440
So I think.
My hope is, is that they get rid
883
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,160
of WIT first.
That kind of puts Brent in a try
884
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,080
it out period with this new AD.
And if this AD hopefully runs a
885
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,280
very short leash on him, then he
can axe him and bring someone
886
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,320
else in.
If they do bring take Brent out.
887
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,440
I mean, to me it kind of is
logic that they put in Monty
888
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,040
from OC to head coaches because
he's got that experience in
889
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,800
Tulsa.
So other than that, I mean, I'm
890
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,800
open to anyone else at this
point to come in and step in and
891
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,720
be the coach.
I, I saw something interesting
892
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:47,200
and it's been brought up a
couple times by some other folks
893
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:53,120
like people saying go ahead and
get rid of wit and get rid of
894
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,480
pride.
Make JC your interim and and
895
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,520
ride that out through 2026 and.
I don't like that.
896
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,680
I completely disagree with that.
I'm not.
897
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,800
I've just put it out there
because I've seen it.
898
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,440
I'm just throwing, throwing
ideas out there, seeing what you
899
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,960
stick.
I mean, Curtis obviously doesn't
900
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,000
like it.
Other people might feel
901
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,600
differently about it, but it's
basically the Brent Key Georgia
902
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,840
Tech model where you get your AD
in for a year and then you let
903
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,160
them decide what the hire is and
whether that hire is the interim
904
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,000
or whether that hire is someone
that's more qualified, that's
905
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,560
done it before that that brings
that experience that you're
906
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,280
looking for.
You at least get a steady hand
907
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,520
at the wheel between now and
then versus kind of what we're
908
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,360
dealing with right now, which
is, you know, a, a very, very
909
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,120
much of A lame duck situation.
It feels like.
910
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,440
I mean, we, we're in A at a
point where I, I don't know if,
911
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,200
if, if this is going to be, you
know what, this recruiting
912
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,960
class, it's not a great class
already.
913
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,240
And and and I'm wondering if the
wheels start falling off of it
914
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,200
depending on how the rest of the
season goes.
915
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,800
I think all that's going to be
on who we bring in and what
916
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,640
happens because I think
something will happen over the
917
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,760
next few weeks because it kind
of has to.
918
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,600
OK.
Well, again, like I said, we, we
919
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,520
all know there's people with a
lot of money out there that
920
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,040
invest in the program.
Like you said, Brian, if they
921
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,840
say you can't have it this year,
that's when shit usually gets
922
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,880
done.
Gilbert, we appreciate you
923
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,200
joining us tonight, man.
Giving up their packing on it.
924
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,320
Thank you.
Come back, throw your stuff in
925
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,400
the chat 'cause you have a
couple great opinions there man.
926
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,440
Yeah, definitely.
And Andrew, recruits aren't
927
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,600
cancelling OVS.
We cancelled our OV on a recruit
928
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,840
for whatever reason.
That is what was said.
929
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,760
The recruit said that he didn't
cancel Virginia Tech Council.
930
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,920
So what's going on?
There was an attempt.
931
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,680
To reschedule another week.
I don't know if that ends up
932
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,200
happening, what it what ends up
happening, but the the reason
933
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,840
he's not coming is not because
of him.
934
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,120
Right, so that is on us.
On them.
935
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,320
It ain't us.
I ain't with them.
936
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:00,800
I'm on my own.
I ain't with them.
937
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,160
Is this is?
This Jay.
938
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,800
Smack, Jay Smack.
How's it going?
939
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,200
What's up?
Can y'all hear me?
940
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,040
We can't.
I don't have much.
941
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,080
Coherent to say, but what is
going on with drones dude?
942
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,840
I mean this dude is having some
sort of mental thing man.
943
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,120
It is just not looking good.
It's called getting your.
944
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,360
It's called getting your ass
beating that back for you.
945
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:31,720
I mean, I don't know what point
we go to pop Watts that I mean I
946
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:35,480
was at the Duke game last year.
I mean, I don't know how good of
947
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,920
a option that is, but you know,
it is not looking good there.
948
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,000
You got to try to, in my
opinion, you got to try to do
949
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,480
some things by committee right
now because nobody's standing
950
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:51,880
out and getting the job done.
Whether you, I don't want to
951
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,200
say, you know, running A2
quarterback system, I don't
952
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,360
know.
But what we're doing and
953
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,400
working.
But I can say they unleash the
954
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,680
hounds on the last two games.
Both teams have figured out
955
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,520
we're going to make you throw
the ball and beat us and it's
956
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,200
not happening.
They are.
957
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,520
We can't block the people that
they're sending and they're
958
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,000
hitting our quarterback and our
quarterbacks getting happy feet.
959
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,640
So I would like them to do
something else because again,
960
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,640
drones is is I'm I'm high on,
excuse me, I'm high on him as a
961
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,320
kid, as a young man.
He's a he's a, he's a great
962
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,560
young man.
But when it comes down to the
963
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,120
same thing we're talking about
with the coach, you got to be a
964
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,000
winner and you got to treat this
like a job because these young
965
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,800
men are getting paid to do a
job.
966
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:42,200
You're not getting the job done.
Try somebody else.
967
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,600
Why are we going to keep rolling
somebody out who ain't getting
968
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,520
the job done?
So let's see what somebody else
969
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,320
can do and see if they can do it
better because that's what a
970
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,880
coach is going to do.
If I'm putting a team on the
971
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,280
field and then these people
aren't doing the job, I would
972
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,960
have just I would have just
cleared the sidelines out.
973
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,880
But you got what you had going
on in that game.
974
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,760
I would have said you're a
freshman, hey, go get in.
975
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,240
I need I need to seeking you
cover them.
976
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,920
We had cornerbacks running right
with the wide receivers looking
977
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,280
to the sideline.
What looking at we looking at we
978
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,760
looking at Turkey legs, We
looking at ass in the stains.
979
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,520
I don't know what we was looking
at 'cause we wasn't turning
980
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,680
looking for the ball.
I'm just saying.
981
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,960
Yeah.
Put somebody else in.
982
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,720
With with drones, it's like he's
got I feel like he's got a
983
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:30,600
really high ceiling, but he's
got a really low floor.
984
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,040
And I feel like if you look at,
you know, QB 2, I don't really
985
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,520
know much about QB three.
I think it's Garrett Randgo.
986
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,200
I don't, you know, they might
not as have as high of a
987
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,800
ceiling, but is their floor is
low Because if it's not, I feel
988
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,920
like you got to look at them and
I don't really want to do the
989
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,160
quarterback by committee thing
that we did under Fuente because
990
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,840
that just sucked.
I mean, you want to have a
991
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,560
quarterback as a leader, you
want to have somebody the guys
992
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,520
look to and I feel like Drones
just does not, does not have
993
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,960
that swagger right now.
It's funny because like when he
994
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,560
plays confident, he's as good as
you could find and then when he
995
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,600
doesn't it, it's it's very, very
unsteady play like you said,
996
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,960
high, high floor, low ceiling.
And the consistency factor is
997
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,400
the issue.
You know his play if if he was
998
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,200
even with the high floor, low
ceiling, if you're staying
999
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,000
around that even keel, more
often than not, you're at least
1000
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000
going to probably put up a good
good amount of wins.
1001
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,400
I think his problem is that the
yo-yo factor is is very extreme.
1002
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,360
Even in the middle of games
where you know you have a first
1003
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:39,760
half where he plays fairly clean
and then the complete complete
1004
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,880
opposite in the second-half.
Just couldn't do anything,
1005
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,320
wasn't playing confident, wasn't
making good reads, whether in
1006
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,960
the run game or in the pass
game.
1007
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,040
I mean, the wheels just fell off
the wagon.
1008
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,560
Yeah, I mean, and it's he
clearly doesn't have a good
1009
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:59,640
front, you know, protecting him
and I that you can, I mean,
1010
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,320
that's you can't use that as an
excuse for everything.
1011
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,640
But, you know, I think that's
going to be even worse this
1012
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,360
coming week with the injuries
from the Vanderbilt game, so.
1013
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,880
I mean, Shandura Sanders didn't
have a good, good line in front
1014
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,080
of him and he did OK.
Right.
1015
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,440
So at the end of the day, that
that's that can only be so much
1016
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,960
of an excuse.
At some point you got to go out
1017
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,800
there and make plays and do the
right thing with the football.
1018
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,720
Yep.
A. 100%.
1019
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,280
Anybody else want to add
anything before we let Jay Smack
1020
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,000
roll up out of here?
I think we're good, man.
1021
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,200
Jay Smack, appreciate you
joining us tonight, man.
1022
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,680
We got a couple more folks
waiting to speak to that piece
1023
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,080
for a few minutes.
Take care, man.
1024
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,600
All right, throw, throw somebody
who's come on the space before.
1025
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:47,680
Hey, what's up?
Maddie B in the house.
1026
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,880
Maddie Blacksburg.
Good evening Blacksburg, I am
1027
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,400
back in the building on my
favorite tech podcast, Bouncy
1028
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,760
Corner, so thank you for having
me on.
1029
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:03,640
I don't want to talk about
personnel and shit like that.
1030
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,840
I got to be honest with you, the
Kyron drones, all the stuff,
1031
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,400
this isn't a player problem.
What we have going on is deep
1032
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,440
seated in the walls of merriment
and that's what I want to talk
1033
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,840
about.
It seems like the Virginia Tech
1034
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,240
athletic program followed Frank
Beamer to the retirement home
1035
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,800
and the energy has just been
sucked out of it since.
1036
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:34,280
In what world?
In what way is it possible for
1037
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,760
us in this new era of college
football to rejuvenate that when
1038
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:44,000
we know we're down $150 million?
Boys, what can we do?
1039
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:48,800
I would like to, I would like to
hear from the panel on like, I
1040
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,600
mean, we know what the problem
is.
1041
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,240
Let's stop skirting around it
and talk about XS and OS.
1042
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,120
We know what the problem is.
How do we fix it?
1043
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,920
I mean, I, I said it earlier, I
think, you know, you start with
1044
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:02,480
wid Babcock and then you figure
everything else out after that.
1045
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,160
And if we're being honest, if
you want to run it up the Foley
1046
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,160
even further, it might be time
for, to look at Tim Sands as
1047
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,640
well.
Because I, I think, you know,
1048
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,840
you haven't had the, the support
historically with whether it's
1049
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:19,520
in the public or, or behind
closed doors, where athletics
1050
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,200
and football in particular has
been a priority for Sands.
1051
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,880
But at the same time, you got
width that it took how long
1052
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,720
before we finally got that
meeting with the board of
1053
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:32,680
visitors at at some point you've
got to come out there and you
1054
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,760
got to recognize the problem.
It's like he was afraid to say I
1055
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,320
need money because it it looked
like failure.
1056
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,680
But abjectly you ended up at
failure anyway because you
1057
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,280
didn't ask for the money in a
timely enough fashion.
1058
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,760
But at the end of the day, I go
back again, money's not going to
1059
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,360
help us beat Vanderbilt's or
Rutgers.
1060
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,600
Like we should be taking care of
this business regardless.
1061
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,080
Yeah, well, if money won college
football, A&M would win it every
1062
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,200
year.
So it's, you know, I'm on that
1063
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,360
camp, too.
I just found it really weird
1064
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,040
some things with Babcock,
especially in that BOV meeting,
1065
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,560
he said some interesting quotes
and phrases.
1066
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,880
He said something like, I've
been crying wolf and now the
1067
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,040
wolf is here.
Well, no, you weren't crying
1068
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,240
wolf at all, actually.
You were pretending like the
1069
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:17,120
wolf didn't exist at all.
You were.
1070
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,040
You were saying the wolf didn't
exist and now it's here.
1071
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,160
We've got the wolf under control
that yeah, that.
1072
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,520
Was a wolf under control?
Yeah, yeah.
1073
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,960
So it's like, you know, but you
didn't.
1074
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,200
And I think so.
There isn't an athletic
1075
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,600
department in the country,
regardless of your group or
1076
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,400
conference or whatever.
There isn't an athletic director
1077
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,520
who isn't asking for more money.
All of them are asking for more.
1078
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,440
Money.
So I just wonder where he sort
1079
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,240
of failed on that like, and
maybe I just care so much that
1080
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,520
if I was the athletic director,
I would be on the I would be
1081
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,160
banging the phones every day.
Give me money.
1082
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,960
This is why.
And here's your return on
1083
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,520
investment.
None of that has come from Wit
1084
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,800
Babcock.
He's a terrible salesman.
1085
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,200
He doesn't close deals.
Our Nike contract solves that.
1086
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,120
We don't have a corporate
sponsor on the field.
1087
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,400
Our money gets squandered all
over the place.
1088
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,440
Wit has to go first and you
can't replace him and pry in the
1089
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,800
same year because we don't have
money.
1090
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,880
How do you buy out a coach and
AAD in the same year and then
1091
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,640
have enough money to hire
anybody worth their salt?
1092
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,920
It's like that.
He pushed us so far in the
1093
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,800
corner, we're fucked.
I like, I don't know how else to
1094
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,800
put it.
I'm sorry boys, but I'm I'm a
1095
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:39,760
blunt guy.
I don't know it just.
1096
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,600
Sucks.
Well, the the point with width
1097
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:48,200
is a We've talked about it on
this show numerous times and
1098
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,400
when he first got here, football
was cruising right Tally
1099
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,360
Sieglich.
Cruising.
1100
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,680
Record wise cruising.
Record wise.
1101
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,960
When did he get here?
He got here in 2014, 2014.
1102
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,920
Frank was still the head coach,
still cruising, just won eight
1103
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,120
games, looking OK.
There was a lot of other shit
1104
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,800
that got fixed.
But Brian, you said it long time
1105
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,960
ago, you can't let the cash cow
starve.
1106
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,160
And that's what happened,
roughly from 2014 until 2021.
1107
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,840
Wit let the cash cow starve.
It started, it started in 2010
1108
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,640
because we, we didn't adapt from
a structure standpoint to, to
1109
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,880
how fundraising is and how
recruiting is in, in, in modern
1110
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,400
college football.
That started in 2010, that
1111
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,600
started in 2010, it did 2010.
And so you're already behind
1112
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,640
when wit takes over.
And then you pull money away
1113
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,520
from this cash cow.
You pull money away from this
1114
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,160
cash cow and it starts, it
starts to bleed out.
1115
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,760
Yep.
So you get to triage I.
1116
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,120
Don't know, man.
Y'all be here, man.
1117
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,520
Yeah, Y'all be educating me on
stuff because like I'm just, I'm
1118
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,640
country and old and I'm down
here in Alabama.
1119
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,000
I'm older than.
You and nobody.
1120
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,800
The person answering right now.
He talks about this stuff like,
1121
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,560
I'm glad that Virginia Tech
people are so like intelligent
1122
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,720
and y'all show me some things
that I didn't know.
1123
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,840
But in Alabama and Auburn or
Tennessee, Mississippi State or
1124
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,040
even Florida, I don't hear
nobody.
1125
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,840
Like maybe I'm a casual football
fan.
1126
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,760
Nobody talks about who they are.
I don't never hear that.
1127
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,760
I just be like this motherfucker
right here don't look like he
1128
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,120
coaching good.
We need to get him.
1129
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,520
About it, well, it happened, it
happens.
1130
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:40,080
It's a lot more niche right now
for us because we're a
1131
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,640
consolidated fan base.
A lot of others, like for
1132
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,400
example, I I'm on Twitter Spaces
a lot.
1133
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,880
So like Miami, for example, run
four Twitter Spaces a day, they
1134
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,480
go all day.
And so the the fan base is a lot
1135
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,880
more spread out than it is at
Virginia Tech.
1136
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,000
So we're very honed in on the
problems that are happening.
1137
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:02,520
And it's it's.
It's becoming hard to ignore and
1138
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,000
it's it's just one of those
things where I think a lot of
1139
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,080
us, you know, and I mentioned
this in the last time that I was
1140
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,880
on with you guys, a particular
word.
1141
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,400
There's a candy ass Ness around
the program.
1142
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:18,240
It's it's it's candy ass.
We've we've become a novelty, a
1143
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,680
souvenir.
It's like, oh, Enter Sandman
1144
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,640
Pop.
And that's it.
1145
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,560
We're just like that.
It's just a souvenir out of the
1146
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,960
Disney gift shop.
We're not a serious football
1147
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,080
program and we haven't acted
like one for some time.
1148
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,120
And I think that's because,
again, we followed Beamer to the
1149
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,160
retirement home I.
Love that analogy.
1150
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,240
I love that analogy, Matty B,
because as we, we got some more
1151
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,680
folks waiting in the room over
there.
1152
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,080
But you, you jumped on last
December with us.
1153
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,720
We had some great combos.
We had some great drinks that
1154
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,560
night.
But I think that is a good
1155
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,280
point.
And I think Tally spoke it
1156
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,320
earlier and I think maybe that's
where a lot of people are
1157
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,400
feeling right now is we love
Frank.
1158
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,800
We we all love Frank.
Don't ever get it wrong because
1159
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,720
Frank is somebody said he's one
of one and he did things with
1160
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:06,360
this program that had never been
done before that we want to see
1161
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:07,920
again but may never be done
again.
1162
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,400
But we we keep saying it it it
might be time to completely cut
1163
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,680
it off.
You know, his numbers hang up.
1164
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,840
His number will hang up forever,
but get rid of the 25.
1165
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,120
Get rid of that stuff.
Let's I'm not saying burn it
1166
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:26,800
down, but as anyone who's ever
potentially purchased a house
1167
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,800
and maybe it was a shitty house,
it's time to go all the way down
1168
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,040
to the studs.
The bones are bad.
1169
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,800
Let's let's start with the
foundation.
1170
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,960
And I appreciate.
I appreciate you guys for having
1171
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,240
me on.
Love you guys.
1172
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,840
You're my favorite best podcast
out there.
1173
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,760
Bounty Corner.
Appreciate it.
1174
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:49,400
We'll see you around, bud.
All right, let's pull James on.
1175
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,200
James, can you hear us?
I can.
1176
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,600
Can y'all hear me?
Yeah, we got you.
1177
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,240
We got you.
By the way, this is another
1178
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,720
Halifax's finest.
On with us tonight.
1179
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,520
I think you got the wrong James
this game.
1180
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:10,360
Well, go ahead James.
Well, I just wanted to say that
1181
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:19,200
I was in Blacksburg this past
weekend at the game and the Q
1182
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:24,000
word has been thrown around a
lot about the players and how
1183
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:30,080
they played in the second-half.
But from my perspective and with
1184
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:34,800
the situation of injuries and
how the other team was playing,
1185
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,240
I feel like the coaches quit on
the players.
1186
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:43,480
Like they just did not give them
the opportunity, give them the
1187
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:48,320
best opportunity to win that
game when they were still up by
1188
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,920
three points.
Like you got to run some sort of
1189
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:57,880
screen or something to stop them
from blitzing every damn play.
1190
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,080
And people want to talk about
money and talent.
1191
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:11,080
It doesn't take that much talent
to win some of the games or have
1192
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,680
some of the results we've had
and it's just mind boggling.
1193
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,360
So.
Yeah.
1194
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,360
That I think that's kind of
where we've landed as well.
1195
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,240
I know we've said it a couple
times tonight.
1196
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,480
We're we're putting a bad
product out there and putting a
1197
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,280
product out there that's worse
than the talent that we've
1198
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,960
accumulated on this roster.
And I think that's that's the
1199
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,560
problem and that speaks to
coaching.
1200
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:40,320
That speaks to coaching, not
only preparing the players,
1201
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,800
right, but also what you're
doing in the game.
1202
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,680
Because there's two parts of
that.
1203
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,040
You got to get the players
prepared.
1204
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,000
That's where you see things like
execution issues.
1205
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:54,400
That's where you see things like
just not being ready to adapt
1206
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,800
and execute in a consistent
fashion as a player.
1207
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,000
But coach has got to get you
ready for that.
1208
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,000
But also you still got a coach
in the moment and and we saw in
1209
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,360
this game when your offensive
line went down, you didn't make
1210
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,000
any sort of adjustment to get
the ball into your receivers
1211
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,760
hands quicker because they were
coming after Kyron.
1212
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,160
The ball wasn't coming out of
his hands fast enough.
1213
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,360
There was problems in
protections, there was problems
1214
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,440
really across the board and the
coordinator didn't do anything
1215
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,080
to mitigate any of those
throughout that whole game in
1216
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,920
the second-half.
And it's frustrating to watch
1217
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,360
because as you said there there
was a disservice.
1218
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,600
It's certainly I think was a
disservice in both directions
1219
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,480
there.
I think there was, I think there
1220
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,760
was some degree of quit, but I
think like you said, I think
1221
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,840
the, the the coaches kind of
threw up the surrender cobra
1222
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,440
first.
You know when we look about not
1223
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,800
going forward on that 4th and
short and and some of the other
1224
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,840
posturing that was done early in
the third quarter there.
1225
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,280
I think that really fed into
what we saw unfolded the fourth
1226
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,480
quarter, which was just the
absolute beat down that put the
1227
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,840
game away.
And I think the signs of prized
1228
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,760
coaching tenure being, you know,
in the dumps were there pretty
1229
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:09,120
early, like, in terms of just
coaching affecting the game.
1230
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:13,560
Like, it does not take that much
talent to snap a ball properly
1231
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,640
for a kick, a fuel kick against
ODU.
1232
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,920
It is it does not take that much
talent to prevent a running back
1233
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,880
at Pitt from running like over
300 yards against your team.
1234
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,880
So it doesn't take that much
talent to beat Marshall.
1235
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:36,200
Like it's just these things that
it's it's been there and we
1236
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,040
wanted to be optimistic and
believe.
1237
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:45,160
But being there on Saturday at
that game, I've never seen a
1238
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,120
stadium get so quiet and empty
so fast.
1239
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,560
It's just embarrassing.
And The thing is, James, you
1240
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,400
clearly have been to games.
It's usually not that way.
1241
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,000
There's been games where Tech's
down 14 points with six minutes
1242
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,880
left and it's still roaring
because there's still belief.
1243
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,960
And I think what happened, and
it's probably, and I think it's
1244
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,280
happened to the majority of the
fan base.
1245
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,320
Sounds like you.
We know it's us.
1246
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,680
The belief is now gone.
Like the belief's gone.
1247
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,000
Like he is not going to get us
where we need to go.
1248
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,920
And it's time to cut bait.
It's time to cut with wit.
1249
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,560
It's time to basically start a
new.
1250
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,240
All right, Well, that's about
all my piece there.
1251
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,480
But I enjoy listening to you
guys.
1252
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,040
I found you all last year and
you guys are a fun pod for
1253
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,640
listen too.
Appreciate it.
1254
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,560
Appreciate it, James man.
Appreciate it.
1255
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,400
James coming?
On too appreciate.
1256
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,560
It Shelton, Shelton before we
throw Josh Poltite with us, man,
1257
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,160
James, the the, the James I'm
talking about on here now, we'll
1258
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,800
throw him on a few minutes, jump
and unload on a couple of the
1259
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:53,000
things that you've got.
Well, I mean it would be a few
1260
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,480
minutes, but I guess.
What's your biggest?
1261
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:07,440
I'd say just I don't know, man,
I feel like like people don't
1262
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,720
understand like how hard it is
to be this bad in close games
1263
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,560
like prize ban and I know like,
you know, the the last two games
1264
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,120
haven't been close.
Like that's not necessarily
1265
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,479
like, you know, directly
relevant to, to the to the
1266
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,040
current discourse, but like
it's, it's simple.
1267
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,399
It's emblematic of like larger,
you know, structural issues,
1268
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:26,160
like just to complete and utter
lack of attention to detail.
1269
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:28,240
I mean, Chris Coleman was
saying, you know, on the boards
1270
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,279
of the day, like this is a staff
that will show up like an hour
1271
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:34,240
late to the media interviews
because they they start practice
1272
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,000
an hour late.
Like you can't even be on time
1273
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,439
for your own schedule.
Like, what are you even doing,
1274
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,560
man?
I, I just, I just, I don't even
1275
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,080
understand the operation that's
going on here.
1276
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,000
I think it kind of reflects
itself in the field in the close
1277
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,359
game records.
Yeah, no, that's real.
1278
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:51,160
That's real.
And The thing is too, like if,
1279
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,200
if we play anybody who punches,
like if, if things are on script
1280
01:08:55,200 --> 01:09:00,240
and things are going good, we've
seen prize come, he can keep the
1281
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,120
team going.
But if we play anybody who
1282
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:07,279
punches and we take a hit, he he
done.
1283
01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:11,000
He should be fans.
He done.
1284
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,960
And it's like you can only do
that so many times before people
1285
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,680
say, OK, that's you.
It ain't no turn the corner no
1286
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:18,800
more.
That's who he is.
1287
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:20,960
That's the team that he's
created.
1288
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,439
That's the culture that he's
created.
1289
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,840
Sheldon just threw some new
stuff at me that I didn't even
1290
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,600
know about.
If you ain't getting the stuff
1291
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,359
on time, if you're going out
partying and drinking and
1292
01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:35,920
driving and then your players
doing it, like, come on, man.
1293
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,319
That's why another reason why I
don't want to get into all that
1294
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:40,359
today.
But when people was like, oh, he
1295
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:42,640
needs to be this and he's
supposed to be raising me.
1296
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:47,040
And you don't start developing
young men on the field.
1297
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,600
They see it in you.
It's more to it than that.
1298
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,960
So we got a new hey, we got we
got the best caller on on here
1299
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,600
now.
What's little man name?
1300
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,640
Little man's name is Sutton.
Sudden don't let Sudden don't
1301
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,640
let Sudden watch Virginia Tech.
He'll throw up.
1302
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,520
I I failed.
We watched last week on Sunday
1303
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,880
and then we watched on Saturday.
But.
1304
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,320
Now I feel the other.
Thing and then it's even it's
1305
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,400
harder for me because like I
live in Texas, so like I'm
1306
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:19,880
seeing Texas Tech A&M throw the
bag to get where we need to be
1307
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,680
in college football.
And it's just like Virginia
1308
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,800
Tech's not doing it because of
wit really.
1309
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,520
And like y'all were saying
earlier, like I tuned into the
1310
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:34,960
TSL like recap of the game today
and like which track record of
1311
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,040
hiring hiring football coaches?
This man's basically O for
1312
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,880
three.
The coach that he hired at
1313
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,360
Cincinnati was a terrible
football coach and apparently
1314
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,480
now he's AUS senator.
To like.
1315
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,480
Tommy.
Tommy, yeah, he is a senator for
1316
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,480
Jonathan Talley.
Yeah, he's more.
1317
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:56,120
Than two like I know we're down
bad as a fan base.
1318
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,840
Like because I tune into y'all
practically every week whenever
1319
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:03,480
y'all stream or whatever.
Tally always wearing hoagie
1320
01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:06,280
gear.
This man's ain't got nothing on
1321
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,560
this time.
And I'm and I'm wearing brave
1322
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:09,920
stuff.
So that's even worse than the
1323
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,840
Hokies right now.
So, you know, I'm that's that's.
1324
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,720
That's code misery right now.
Man, yeah, 'cause then.
1325
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,880
Like I'm wearing brave stuff.
I didn't want to put nothing
1326
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,560
orange on nothing maroon.
No, I get it.
1327
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,560
No, we don't.
Yeah, man.
1328
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,760
Yeah, like it's just hard.
Like I've always watched the
1329
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,440
Hokie game through, but except
like this weekend, the start of
1330
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:32,680
the fourth quarter, like I
started watching the OU Michigan
1331
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,760
game like that just had my full
attention.
1332
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,200
So like, it's like.
It ain't even fun.
1333
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,360
It ain't Josh.
Am I wrong?
1334
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,920
It's not even fun when you're
watching some games now because
1335
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,280
there's no, it don't even look
like football, Like we just look
1336
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,240
like we out there going through
the motions.
1337
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,680
Like people literally it's like
don't even care.
1338
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,600
It's like they pay more
attention to pry writing on his
1339
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,360
notepad with the red pen.
For all of our fuck ups really
1340
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,600
that aren't going to get fixed.
Right.
1341
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,960
Again, why has that not been
passed on to an intern or
1342
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,000
somebody else on the sideline?
Like when you you stay engaged
1343
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,920
in the game, I don't need you
making the notes.
1344
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,760
Exactly.
Like, pass that to the person
1345
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,520
who's supposed to help you with
clock management so you're aware
1346
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,560
of what's going on.
I told them at the beginning of
1347
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,120
the season, the High Shelton,
they didn't do it.
1348
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,280
That's what's wrong.
There you go.
1349
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,840
Yeah, right, Shelton.
Shelton would have been on that
1350
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,680
all.
Right, Josh, I'm gonna ask you
1351
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,040
real quick, cuz we asked
Andretti earlier, cuz he's up.
1352
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,600
He, he grew up in the Philly
area.
1353
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,880
Are you originally from Texas?
So originally I was born in
1354
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,120
Florida cuz my mom was active
duty Air Force.
1355
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:40,400
OK, so I moved around a lot and
like my story for Virginia Tech
1356
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:41,920
is like she was stationed at
Langley.
1357
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:46,320
So like I turned the TI turned
the TV on one day, Marcus
1358
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,480
Victoria and Vt was dog walking
somebody back in the day.
1359
01:12:49,480 --> 01:12:52,160
And I was just like, all right,
I'm hooked.
1360
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,840
So like I've been through the
tie rod, the Logan, the Gerard,
1361
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:03,320
the Fuente, the Fuente era.
So like, yeah, it's just hard
1362
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:08,200
seeing some of these other like
Texas schools that I see on a
1363
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:12,320
weekend basis really just like
being able to pay for all this
1364
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:17,000
top and talent that like we'd
never be able to afford because
1365
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:21,520
nobody backs the money for it.
But this is the thing too.
1366
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,040
So I'm kind of in the same
situation as Josh, but when you
1367
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,520
talk about, he's talking about
the schools in Texas, right?
1368
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,840
You got Baylor, Texas Tech,
Texas.
1369
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,240
SMU.
SMU.
1370
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,200
Then you start to go into the
Oklahoma's Oklahoma State.
1371
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:38,920
I've been.
Throwing some money this year
1372
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,520
in.
Particular this is the thing
1373
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:45,040
though, all of those schools,
like out of those schools, it
1374
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,120
may be like one school that
really has a chance to win at
1375
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,440
all.
You know what I'm saying?
1376
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,040
Like they're throwing money and
stuff, but it's not like they're
1377
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,200
they're this is what we got to
do to win.
1378
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:59,080
Like Texas just kind of got
back, you know what I'm saying?
1379
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,680
Everybody else is just normal
teams.
1380
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,040
The return on investment is
still not good.
1381
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,240
We could basically normal team.
We could be a normal team with
1382
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,360
normal money.
Like I ain't saying that I'm OK
1383
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,600
with winning eight games a year,
but we should have been on one
1384
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:18,720
some 8 had some 8 game seasons.
We have what we what we have.
1385
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,200
Like.
I agree to get to the next
1386
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:26,080
level, sure, but the money is
money is the problem in the long
1387
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:30,120
term scheme of things.
But the problem right now that
1388
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,560
we seen on that field last week
and what we need is we don't
1389
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,640
have a head coach that knows
what the fuck he is doing.
1390
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:42,880
Britton James Pry does not know
what the fuck he is doing.
1391
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,520
You know he needs some help.
I don't care what he do.
1392
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,400
Take it $4 million.
Go to the Bahamas.
1393
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,640
Look at some titties.
We need you to leave.
1394
01:14:51,480 --> 01:14:53,400
We need you to go.
We need you out.
1395
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,000
Listen, Josh Button, I'm sorry.
Suddenly saw it.
1396
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,960
Well, Josh, listen, man,
appreciate you jumping.
1397
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,800
Sudden appreciate you jumping.
He's just like Dad.
1398
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,080
I just, I just wanted to get
some airtime tonight, man.
1399
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,120
You got to get the airtime.
Man.
1400
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,000
You got to get the airtime.
And, and thanks for sharing your
1401
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,960
story because like when you see
people from Texas and a guy who
1402
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,920
grew up in Philly and it's like,
that's how I became a tech fan.
1403
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:19,240
I turned on the TV and there was
this unbelievable athlete
1404
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,040
running down the field.
We appreciate it, man.
1405
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,840
So keep listening and we'll see
you around.
1406
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,680
Of course, sounds good.
Sutton was doing better than
1407
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:33,840
prop with his pad all.
Right.
1408
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,960
I think based based on our time
here, I think James, you're
1409
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,400
going to be the last one on
here.
1410
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,960
I'm.
Going I'm going to preface this.
1411
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,960
Everybody on here that's
probably listening knows how far
1412
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,120
me and Curtis goes back.
You go back.
1413
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,680
This man on camera, I go back
with probably the farthest than
1414
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,040
than anybody that I know that
I'm still in contact with.
1415
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,080
So James Ambrose, everybody.
What's going on, fellas?
1416
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,400
Bloody.
Hey, man, love you guys.
1417
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,800
Love listening to you guys first
and foremost, man.
1418
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,160
See, Curtis, it's been too long
since we've hung out, so we got
1419
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:03,960
to do something soon.
Wait.
1420
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,080
Too long bro.
But yeah, man, like, you know,
1421
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,920
Brian, you know, just most than
anyone, like I've been a die
1422
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,560
hard tech fan forever, right?
Like, you know, you, you
1423
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,400
remember going back in middle
school where, you know, our
1424
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,800
principal was an official for
the Big East, He'd bring those
1425
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,680
programs back.
And like, that's the first thing
1426
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,280
you would go to the library to
check out, right?
1427
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,960
Those early, those programs from
the Big East, you saw Ken
1428
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,200
Oxendon on it.
Like, you know, saw all these
1429
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,720
great players on it.
Like one of my fondest memories
1430
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,040
as a kid was watching that Sugar
Bowl in 95 with my dad.
1431
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,320
Like I, I remember sitting to
Beverly on the sofa with my dad,
1432
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,760
watch the Circle Bowl and he's
like, I tell you what, if we
1433
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,680
beat Texas, we're going to go
light some fireworks.
1434
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,120
I was like, heck, yeah, let's go
Hokies.
1435
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,960
So, so for me, like, you know,
and now that I have a son who,
1436
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,760
who's 9 and like, I'm trying to
get him like he, he loves
1437
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,640
sports.
So no, no trying, but trying to
1438
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,360
like, get him to love sports.
Like I love sports.
1439
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,160
Love A-Team.
Like we love A-Team, right?
1440
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,360
Like, we grew up with the team.
We love this team.
1441
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,400
We're passionate about this team
and to like, watch them lay eggs
1442
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,120
like this time and time again.
And and Grant, like now, he's
1443
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,400
had one great experience.
We went to Boston College last
1444
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,680
year and with the exception of
the third quarter, it's a great
1445
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,800
game.
And Brian, you know, I get to
1446
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,240
talk to you all the time when I,
you know, through text messages
1447
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:19,720
most often, like during the
games.
1448
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:24,480
But like, you know, one thing
for me is like, it sucks that,
1449
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,320
you know, my experience as a
young kid watching Virginia Tech
1450
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,520
football was excellent.
Like you had some losses, like,
1451
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,080
and, and, you know, there were
always times when, like, you
1452
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,520
knew, we didn't have the best
players, we didn't have the best
1453
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,720
talent, but we had a coach who
gave a damn.
1454
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,880
And I think that's the issue.
Like, we had a coach who care
1455
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,720
like Frank Beamer at the time,
and like, he took a program that
1456
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,120
was in the dirt and he turned
into something special.
1457
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,000
He turned into something great
for everybody.
1458
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,360
And now, like, we got to live
that experience.
1459
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,320
We got to watch the sugar bowls.
We got to, you know, some of my
1460
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,680
best experiences, you know, in
college especially.
1461
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:02,560
What's that I?
Remember with your brother.
1462
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,040
Yeah, like I mean your.
Brother, man up and.
1463
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,000
Yeah, yeah, my brother went
there like he was there during
1464
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,120
the Victoria era, the national
title game, like, and that's
1465
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,880
different.
Like you go and you lose to a
1466
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,160
Florida State, right.
But of course they had Peter
1467
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,960
work, they had Chris Winky, they
had all these other studs on the
1468
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,400
team and you're up there with
Michael Vick and Andre Davis.
1469
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,600
So you know, you lose against
the team with great talent.
1470
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,840
And like I've gone to so many
games, like some of my best
1471
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,480
memories, you know, like I said,
through college, like or even
1472
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:36,760
post college was like, you know,
you know, God rest his soul,
1473
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,280
Brian, you know, Brian Wilkerson
and we went to that Miami game.
1474
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:42,000
We got to store in the field.
Man, that's that's remarkable.
1475
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,960
And I'm saying things like, I
want my son to live this, Like,
1476
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,560
I want my son to experience
this, the Tech Nebraska game
1477
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,160
where, you know, Tyrod Diddy,
Mikey Tyrod did it like I was at
1478
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,480
the game, you know, so like,
having to live those experiences
1479
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:56,760
were great.
And for me as a fan now with
1480
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,520
kids and like trying to, you
know, raise him for this.
1481
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,960
Like, you know, we're watching
the Tech game last Sunday
1482
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,120
against South Carolina.
It's like, OK, you know, we put
1483
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,680
up a good fight.
You know, it's a good game.
1484
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,840
You know, the two big plays,
cool, you know, defensive,
1485
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,080
tired, I get it.
And then even last week, you
1486
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,360
know, we're watching Vanity
first half, OK, we look good.
1487
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,920
And then the second-half, you
just come out flat, like, and I
1488
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,120
even Ashe was like, what did he
say at halftime to make a team
1489
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,200
come on and just die?
Like, what do you say to
1490
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,040
somebody?
Like you say, hey, guys, you
1491
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,960
know what?
We're let's go out here.
1492
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,080
We're going to give them a
chance.
1493
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,640
We're going to let them run
right up your butt hole and
1494
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:32,960
you're going to like it.
All right.
1495
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,120
And you know what?
And you know, like, offensively,
1496
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,840
right, Kyron drones was
different the first half.
1497
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,520
Like he's out there like he's
shouldering people like he's
1498
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,520
hitting guys.
Yeah, Like, So what?
1499
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,160
What if Phil Mcgarn, what did he
say during this time to make
1500
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:48,600
Karen Jones?
Like, hey, you know what?
1501
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,800
Don't go get that extra.
I want you to fall down.
1502
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,040
I want you to slide.
You know, I think that's going
1503
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,080
to be OK.
You just slide.
1504
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,080
And then like, you have a third
in a snail, like you a third in
1505
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,800
a fourth in a snail, right?
Like 4th in 1/2, a blade of
1506
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,680
grass.
And you're like, hey, you know
1507
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,520
what?
My defense just got trucked.
1508
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,920
They just took the ball, you
know, 75 yards for a touchdown.
1509
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:09,440
I'm not going to go with this
like.
1510
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,920
Brian, like you and I played
office in line together.
1511
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,720
What would have had like if we
had that like half an inch to
1512
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,960
get what happens?
Like even if you need to call a
1513
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,840
time out, that coach is going to
get your office on and say, hey,
1514
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:21,440
I don't care what you have to
do.
1515
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:23,040
You're getting that freaking
half a yard.
1516
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,480
You're getting that half an
inch, whatever it is, right?
1517
01:20:25,480 --> 01:20:27,720
Like where is that?
There's no buyer, There's no
1518
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,560
passion.
But like Tally said a little
1519
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:30,920
while ago, the guy was on the
freaking clip.
1520
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,040
Like what's he writing down?
We suck again.
1521
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:34,680
We suck again.
I suck as a coach.
1522
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,120
Like, I don't know.
So I don't know.
1523
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,560
For me, it's very frustrating
watching this program that I
1524
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:45,000
love, that I'm passionate about
just go in the total.
1525
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:49,560
Just freaking the abyss, man.
Like you can't even make fun of
1526
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,960
UBA anymore.
Like that's how bad we are now
1527
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,320
at.
Some point, like we're at a
1528
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,440
point now where we can't trash
on UVA because we're going out
1529
01:20:57,440 --> 01:21:00,560
there and laying eggs every week
and it's like if the only thing
1530
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,640
that we can talk about is an
entrance and beating UVA every
1531
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,600
year, that's as bad as it gets.
By.
1532
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:13,000
The way James, I am stealing 4th
in a snail for my and.
1533
01:21:13,480 --> 01:21:15,680
And James, so talking about
that, talking about fourth in a
1534
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,880
blade, like you remember our
senior year, we went through a
1535
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,240
rotating cast of characters.
We did.
1536
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:26,760
It was it was me, you and
everybody else was kind of
1537
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,000
rotating.
There was a lot of different
1538
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,400
moving parts that year.
And we didn't make excuses when
1539
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,840
we needed fourth in the yard
just because two guys that were
1540
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,960
were nicked up and we, you know,
they weren't in the game.
1541
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,960
Like at some point you got to
make the right play.
1542
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,600
Regardless of what your
personnel is in there.
1543
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,200
You got to go out there and just
make a play.
1544
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,960
You you need you need a snail,
you get a snail.
1545
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,120
Yeah, like, and then that's the
thing, like I feel like with
1546
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,160
this team, like you, you can
tell there's just seems to be no
1547
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:53,080
heart.
And I get it, man.
1548
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,360
You're in a it's a new area of
era of college athletics, man.
1549
01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:00,000
You're in IO, all this other
crap where you know that that
1550
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,280
possibly was the reason Nick
Saban gets out of coaching,
1551
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:03,280
right?
It's like, hey, the kids,
1552
01:22:03,480 --> 01:22:05,120
they're here for money now.
Cool.
1553
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,800
OK, if that's the case, then
find the kids that want to
1554
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,280
freaking play.
I'd rather go six and six with a
1555
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,840
group of guys who have hard and
give a crap like entirely, you
1556
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,320
know, you're wearing the the
Braves gear like this year,
1557
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,120
especially like I'm a huge
Braves fan as well.
1558
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,480
So this this sucks.
Like, you know, I'm ready for
1559
01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:22,160
hockey.
Like let's get hockey going,
1560
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:22,840
baby.
Let's go.
1561
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,760
Yeah.
So, but as a Braves fan that you
1562
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,720
sit there like, you know, if you
get blown out of the game, like
1563
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,120
if you're consistently losing,
like the Colorado Rockies,
1564
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,440
right, that's talent.
That means, hey, I don't have
1565
01:22:34,440 --> 01:22:36,680
talent.
When you're losing close games
1566
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,800
consistently, that's coaching.
That's 100% coaching.
1567
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:45,200
Like, and we do it every year as
hokey fans, like the last four
1568
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,360
years.
God, you know I have hope this
1569
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,360
year because look at all those
one score games.
1570
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,600
Look at all those one score
games like it's the same thing
1571
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,920
every year and you.
Can turn just a couple of those
1572
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,880
around.
You're on the the good side of
1573
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,280
you're.
At 9, you're at 8.
1574
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,000
You're at 10.
If you could just turn one or
1575
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,440
two.
Yeah, you're a playoff team.
1576
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:06,320
I mean, my God, like, and and
you know, we're talking about
1577
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:10,040
recruiting like if I was at a
tech game last week and I, you
1578
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,360
know, I'm thinking about going
to tech and like, I see you
1579
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,520
laying the egg the whole second,
the whole second.
1580
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,840
Like you have 0 hope in that
second-half.
1581
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,720
There's nothing like I think
Sheldon, you mentioned this
1582
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,760
earlier, like there is nothing
in that second-half worth
1583
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,240
mentioning it.
It's like, you know, if and if
1584
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,160
you got, if you guys are Ted
Lasso fans, like it's like that
1585
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,160
one, one game where he puts it
to that funny music and like
1586
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:33,400
he's like, this is how you watch
this.
1587
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,480
Like that's how you watch that
second-half.
1588
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:39,320
There's nothing good about it.
Like you go out there and you
1589
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,240
look like crap and like your
whole your all your fans leave.
1590
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,000
I think.
And that's one thing as a Tech
1591
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,520
fan, like I remember there was
one year, you know, we're
1592
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,600
sitting there in like Georgia
Tech, they have Calvin Johnson,
1593
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,640
like, you know, Megatrons out
there. 2006 yeah like what
1594
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,480
fucking year you talking about
Yeah beats the.
1595
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:59,120
Crap out of us, right?
But you're 33 yards.
1596
01:23:59,480 --> 01:24:02,920
Yeah, like, but everyone was
still just about, everyone's
1597
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,960
still in the stands, everyone
like you're still waiting.
1598
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,200
We're down 33 touchdowns or
something.
1599
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:09,880
You're still there because you
know what?
1600
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,360
This is our team.
We love this team.
1601
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,680
But there's like, it's almost
like this athletic department,
1602
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,840
this coaching staff, they,
they've almost like just
1603
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,560
destroyed this.
And it's sad, man.
1604
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,120
It's, it's so freaking sad to
see.
1605
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,440
It's so disheartening.
And I, you know, it's hard for
1606
01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:28,840
me to compare to anything.
Like I'm sitting like, I don't
1607
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,360
know if I've ever been like this
beat up.
1608
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,600
Like I'm sitting here thinking
like, I don't want my son to be
1609
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,520
a Tech fan, Man, this hurts.
Like, you know, I've always told
1610
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,480
him I was like, you know, he
loves playing baseball.
1611
01:24:37,480 --> 01:24:39,720
I think Tally, your son's a big
baseball player too.
1612
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,760
So I'm saying like he wants to
play college, Boston and further
1613
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:47,000
on last time, like a couple
years ago, all he wants to do is
1614
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,680
play Kentucky.
And then like we took him to a
1615
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,000
Tech game.
Now he's like, I want to go to
1616
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,080
Tech and I'm like, God, man, I
don't know.
1617
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,960
I don't know what you going to
tell me.
1618
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,600
Like I love.
I love, yeah, I love the school,
1619
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,720
but at the same time, like,
heartbreak is that this is hard,
1620
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,200
man.
Like this is this is
1621
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,760
heartbreaking.
It's devastating.
1622
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,920
And you know, you guys said,
hey, man, let's say eulogy for
1623
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,000
this program, man.
Like, yeah, I feel like this
1624
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,840
program has been dead for a
couple years now.
1625
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,840
It's like we just keep trying to
find that hope, like holding up
1626
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,360
hope and like finding hopefully,
like just hoping somebody can
1627
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:17,880
come by and resurrect this
program.
1628
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:23,640
I mean, I think was it like
didn't when I guess when Frank
1629
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,880
Beamer said like he was
retiring, like what didn't Curry
1630
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,920
Smart say, hey, like I'm
interested in this job?
1631
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,040
Like we, we could have had him
as a coach, like he wanted to be
1632
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,280
here.
But no, we we go and we get this
1633
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,080
head coach from Memphis.
Great.
1634
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:37,600
You know, look, look, look what
happens there.
1635
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,680
And I get it, man.
You got yeah, Bud Foster there,
1636
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,160
maybe like 2 defensive
coordinators.
1637
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,000
I don't know.
I don't know what all happened
1638
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,840
there.
And then, you know, Shane Beamer
1639
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,160
seems like he had an interest,
but then maybe not.
1640
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,680
Like you had a bunch of stuff.
I think everything came out.
1641
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,440
I don't know all the details and
I didn't read much into it.
1642
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:54,640
Like he wanted to come here for
a little bit.
1643
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,320
Maybe you guys can correct me if
I'm wrong.
1644
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,400
And that didn't work out.
We stuck with Fuente and he, you
1645
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,080
know, signed with South
Carolina.
1646
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,280
And then you look at one of his
is Taurean Gray.
1647
01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:05,880
He's on his coaching staff,
right?
1648
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,840
Like, Taurean Gray was a great
player for us.
1649
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:13,080
Like, great coach for us.
Yeah.
1650
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,320
Like I mean like.
He's doing the same job there
1651
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,360
that he was doing here.
Yeah, like why can't we have
1652
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,760
like you have JC Price, but why
can't we get these other guys to
1653
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,080
come back?
Like you got Xavier DB, I get
1654
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,080
that you got Ferguson strength
and conditioning, but man like.
1655
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,080
Ambrose, give me a SEC here
because I think we're at the
1656
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,160
point and Tally brought it up
early.
1657
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,120
I don't know if you heard it,
because you got kids.
1658
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,000
You got to put kids to bed like
we do.
1659
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,800
Is it time to separate now?
I'm not saying kill the legacy,
1660
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:46,240
but is it time to find a whole
new staff, a whole new identity?
1661
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,800
The 25 the lunch pail will.
Be up here after.
1662
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,760
Forever 7 will be in the Raptors
forever.
1663
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,960
Is it a an AD?
I don't give a shit here.
1664
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,560
The AD is I want an AD who knows
football.
1665
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,920
Who is going to go and say I
need more money for football and
1666
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,880
that's all they're going to do?
I love what Matty B said.
1667
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,200
We need more money for football.
You want to win 10 games?
1668
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,760
You want to go to the playoffs,
give us some more money.
1669
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:14,800
It's annoying, but is it time to
effectively, and this is now 10
1670
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:19,240
years later, is it time
effectively to take that step?
1671
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,480
Not shitting on his legacy, but
away from the Beamer and all
1672
01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:25,760
that stuff.
Yeah.
1673
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,360
I think that's what people are
saying.
1674
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,920
We're holding on to that past.
When is it time to finally let
1675
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,160
it go?
Because you know how long it
1676
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,560
took Alabama to let it go.
Do y'all know how long it took
1677
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:41,800
Alabama to let go of some sort
of Saban or excuse me, some sort
1678
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:48,160
of Bear connection?
Don't know how long it took 25
1679
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,240
years.
Guess what year that was?
1680
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,040
They hired Nick Saban.
Everyone before that had had
1681
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,520
some sort of connection to Bear.
You got to let it go, man.
1682
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,680
You got to let.
It go there's a different.
1683
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,800
Culture and legacy, and I think
there you go.
1684
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:07,880
When we talk about it, we can.
You can still have Virginia Tech
1685
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,640
culture and still be about what
Virginia Tech is all about
1686
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:18,400
without having to drag through
the legacy of your legend every
1687
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,440
single time throughout the way.
And that's not to say you can't
1688
01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:25,720
have alumnus on the staff
throughout this process, but
1689
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,320
that can't.
That can't be the focal point.
1690
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:32,840
At some point you've got to re
establish the roots of the
1691
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:36,680
program without looking behind.
You got to replant it.
1692
01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:40,720
You have to replant.
It and I would agree with that
1693
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,880
like I think, you know, I really
think it is time to move on
1694
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,920
like, you know, I think Price
done a really good job bringing
1695
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,800
it like or he he did a good job
bringing like, you know those
1696
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,480
not back.
The one thing that pisses me off
1697
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,800
every single game week is the 25
like stop the 25.
1698
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,840
Like we got to stop doing that.
It's because like this, this was
1699
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,920
a Fuentes thing, like just a
Fuentes started this.
1700
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,960
And then also it'd be different
if you were good on special
1701
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,240
teams, but we suck on special
teams.
1702
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,400
Like we're not a good special
teams team.
1703
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,000
And then Sheldon could probably
look at the stats.
1704
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,520
I mean, I know when I look at
special teams, I get terrified
1705
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,840
like every time we punt the
ball, I'm like, they're they're
1706
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,280
going to return this.
And like, like we don't block
1707
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,960
kicks like we used to.
Like it's almost like when, you
1708
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,360
know, back in the day and like
we bring bean rope again, but
1709
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:30,360
like you almost expected him to
block a field goal or block a
1710
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,160
block a punt, right?
Like it's every game you almost
1711
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:34,920
expect of that.
Whereas now it's like we don't
1712
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,720
go after the punt.
We try to set up a return every
1713
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:40,800
time or, or we, we allow them
to, you know, run touchdowns
1714
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,800
back on us with punts.
So I, you know, I really hate
1715
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,040
the 25.
So I wish they would let that
1716
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,240
go.
Me too.
1717
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,840
Like I it's, it's frustrating to
me as I'm like.
1718
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,760
The first couple years and then
it got stayed as shit the first
1719
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,120
year.
If they've done 16 to 7, that
1720
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,400
should have been it.
And the jerseys.
1721
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,880
The jerseys in the Raptors
forever, man.
1722
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:04,640
Yep, Yep.
Well, listen.
1723
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:09,440
Ambrose, brother, it's been too
long since we've seen you again.
1724
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,920
He goes way back with Sigla.
Ambrose, you're another guy.
1725
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,520
Got to know him.
Middle school known.
1726
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,160
Yep.
It's 30 years now.
1727
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,560
So listen, thank you for jumping
on, giving us your point of
1728
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,680
view, your thoughts, man, keep
in touch.
1729
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,720
Maybe maybe you know what,
Brian, let's let's try to see if
1730
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,360
we shit, if I don't know, I
invited you to the house last
1731
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,280
Saturday.
But anyways, let's try to get
1732
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,520
together, watch a game and see
if we can commiserate in it.
1733
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,600
Sounds like a plan man.
Y'all take care.
1734
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,160
Thanks for having me on man.
Love the podcast voice.
1735
01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:40,160
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
1736
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:41,120
Man, see you.
Thank you.
1737
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,760
All right, we are.
I appreciate all y'all jumping
1738
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,520
on with us, everybody.
I don't know how many.
1739
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,400
I felt like we had about 15
people on here.
1740
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:50,720
I don't know if anybody was hold
on.
1741
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,920
I should have marked it every
time we had somebody on notepad
1742
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,800
up here and marked it.
But Sheldon, anything else you
1743
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:01,240
want to lay on us before?
Our giveaway winner.
1744
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,640
Oh, there's Jay, he was down
there.
1745
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,920
Anything you want to load on us?
Because we are, we're not doing
1746
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,120
any keys or anything.
We're just going to make our
1747
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,640
picks and then we're going to go
big screeners and we're going to
1748
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,440
kick it.
Anything.
1749
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,560
I know you got a, you got a big
piece to drop.
1750
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,400
So, yeah, so down to your
assessment there.
1751
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,960
Yeah, so I dropped a piece for
the key play yesterday.
1752
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,640
Basically what I talked about
was, I mean, obviously we know
1753
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,640
like, you know, how badly we got
gashed and just what a disaster
1754
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:33,240
that was.
I felt like it was the first
1755
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,320
time where we kind of saw the
team really quit under Pride,
1756
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,560
which was disappointing because
I think that was 1 area where he
1757
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,480
where he was different from
Fuente is that his team's never
1758
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:42,920
quit, but they quit last night.
So that was unfortunate.
1759
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,120
Or Saturday, which is
unfortunate.
1760
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,360
But what I talked about was
basically there are a bunch of
1761
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,360
trends in the Pride era that
just defy any sort of logical
1762
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:55,000
explanation that that is just
beyond any sort of, you know,
1763
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:59,520
you know, minor, you know, you
know, offensive struggles or, or
1764
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,200
what have you.
Just stuff that shit that like
1765
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,480
does not even compute based on
what we understand about the
1766
01:32:05,480 --> 01:32:09,600
sport of football.
The first thing the non
1767
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:10,880
conference power for losing
streak.
1768
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,960
I do not know how Virginia Tech
has managed to have won this
1769
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,240
long.
It is 15 games.
1770
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:21,000
That is the tide for the fourth
longest streak all time in
1771
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,960
Division One since 1973 for
power for schools.
1772
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,480
And I know Pride did not start
it, but he has certainly
1773
01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:30,960
contributed to it.
And it is particularly jarring
1774
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,720
in the context of how easy Tech
schedule has been since Pride
1775
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,160
took over.
And I talked about this. 2022,
1776
01:32:37,480 --> 01:32:40,040
they had the easiest schedule in
the Power Four, one of the
1777
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,280
easier schedules in recent
memory that we've seen at this
1778
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:46,880
level. 2023 was the 30s schedule
in the Power four last year, all
1779
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,560
six of their wins were against
backup quarterbacks or
1780
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:50,960
quarterbacks that later got
benched.
1781
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:55,400
So you've got a absolutely gift
wrap schedule for you and your
1782
01:32:55,400 --> 01:33:00,280
record is 16 and 23 more.
So tech is the tech has played
1783
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:04,040
fewer top 50 opponents under
Pride than any other power force
1784
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,800
school since since 2022
according to SP Plus they've
1785
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,120
played more bottom 80 opponents
than any other power force
1786
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,480
school.
And despite this, they do not
1787
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:15,840
have a single win against a top
50 opponent since he took over.
1788
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:19,040
And they're the only power force
in the country for whom that is
1789
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,760
true since then has one.
Everyone else has at least 2.
1790
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,200
The average is 8.
They do not have a single tough
1791
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,520
to win since Pride took over.
I just don't know how you
1792
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,280
explain that stuff.
No other team does this.
1793
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,160
Literally no other team does
this.
1794
01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:34,400
All right.
And then if you look at the
1795
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:39,240
close game records, one in 12
worst win percentage among 350
1796
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,320
qualified coaches this century.
So he is literally the worst
1797
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,640
close game coach in the modern
era of college football, which
1798
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:49,440
is a story unto itself.
Only 5 only three other coaches
1799
01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:52,000
have ever managed to lose 12 of
their first thirteen one score
1800
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,280
games.
So and you look at the list,
1801
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,200
it's like guys you have never
heard of in a million years.
1802
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,480
But I mean, Joe Morehead, some
people have heard of him, but
1803
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:04,400
guys like Kevin Wilson, Todd
Dodge, Marcus Arroyo, like no
1804
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,440
one, no human being has ever
heard of those guys.
1805
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:08,680
Even for fans of those teams,
and I guarantee you don't know
1806
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,480
what what teams those coaches
coach for.
1807
01:34:11,440 --> 01:34:15,280
It's just inexplicable.
So I, I, I don't even know like
1808
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,960
what like just how to explain
the, the baffling level of
1809
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:23,120
incompetence on a, on a, on a
micro and macro level that this
1810
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,160
staff has kind of put together
like, 'cause you look at the
1811
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,280
1623 record and it's like, OK,
that's bad.
1812
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:28,760
No, it's actually worse than you
think.
1813
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,920
Because with their schedule,
with their, with how many close
1814
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,840
games they've been in, I mean,
they should be like, they should
1815
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,160
be a 600, you know, A600A650 win
program.
1816
01:34:37,480 --> 01:34:40,640
And they're terrible.
It, it just defies it defies
1817
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,960
all, all human logic.
So, and then lastly, I'll, I'll
1818
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:49,080
end my rant here.
You know, Fuente Fuente Fuente
1819
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,520
had many issues, as we all know,
we've talked about, you know,
1820
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,880
just the the issues that he had
recruiting wise, development,
1821
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,280
coaching, assistant hires and so
forth.
1822
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:00,000
But I do feel that he had some
redeeming qualities as a coach.
1823
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,840
Obviously, he was way too much
of a hard ass and a drill
1824
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,200
Sergeant and he did not have
great people skills.
1825
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,640
He did not have good, you know,
program management skills for a
1826
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:11,520
powerful program.
But if you if you need him to be
1827
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,280
a hard ass or to to prep for a
single game against a really
1828
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,080
good team, he could do it.
He had some big wins.
1829
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,040
You know, he beat UNC to start
the the 2021 season.
1830
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:21,760
I know they weren't great that
year, but they did have an elite
1831
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,200
offense with the NFL
quarterback.
1832
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,680
I, I think he was a real head
coach prize, not a real head
1833
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:29,040
coach.
He just isn't.
1834
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,120
He does not possess the
attention to detail and the just
1835
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,120
the, the in game acumen and the
leadership skills that are
1836
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,800
required of a normal powerful
head coach for all the reasons
1837
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:41,040
that I've just talked about.
Because again, the things that
1838
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,520
have happened to this program
since 2022 do not make any
1839
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,000
sense.
They, they should not even exist
1840
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,560
on a molecular level.
It just defies, defies all sorts
1841
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,800
of of human intuition as far as
what is going on here.
1842
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,120
So that's what I have to say.
I certainly think the end is
1843
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:55,800
near.
I don't know.
1844
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:56,720
I don't know what's going to
happen.
1845
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:58,200
But I mean, they're going to
have to pull the plug.
1846
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:02,120
Eventually.
I mean, if, if we're looking at
1847
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,800
it like if, if you're talking
about what where pride would fit
1848
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,760
in, Pride would be a much better
general manager of a of a
1849
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,360
program and as far as like being
able to.
1850
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:12,800
Not this one though, but go
ahead.
1851
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:17,040
Not this one, I'm saying, but he
would be, he would be better fit
1852
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:21,040
as the the glad hander, the guy
that's establishing those
1853
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,800
relationships, that's making
some of those type of decisions
1854
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:29,360
and not the guy that you want to
prepare and win a football game
1855
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:30,720
because that is where he is
struggling.
1856
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,480
He does a pretty poor job across
the board of preparing and
1857
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:37,920
winning football games.
And Shelton, to your point, it's
1858
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:41,160
like it flies in the face.
It's like it's outlier after
1859
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:42,880
outlier.
How can he still lose this?
1860
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,840
We're not.
We're not getting back to the
1861
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,400
mean at all.
Here it's still the same.
1862
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,680
Thing over and over.
It's statistically impossible
1863
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:51,640
for that shit to.
Happen.
1864
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,440
Look, I want y'all to put this
I'm I'm I'm going to throw mine
1865
01:36:55,440 --> 01:37:00,600
because I know we got to get
down put clean house's last last
1866
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,360
thing you put in the chat up
there there's. 2.
1867
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,240
The the one that the the last
one, Which one did you see?
1868
01:37:08,440 --> 01:37:11,760
Listen, man, I don't know if
he's saying this is torture like
1869
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:16,080
we're being tortured or if he
was saying Shelton was a torture
1870
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:17,680
like he was.
He was tortured.
1871
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:21,560
I don't know which one.
That's how bad things is he.
1872
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:25,520
He made a double sentence.
It could mean one of two things.
1873
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,840
We don't know.
We don't know what's going on,
1874
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:29,320
but this is what I'm going to
say.
1875
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,680
Y'all are going to go back and
listen to this and you're going
1876
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,280
to go through all that stuff
that Sheldon just sprouted out
1877
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,560
for about 10 minutes of nothing
but gas.
1878
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,640
I had to take my hat off and I
couldn't even think about
1879
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:47,920
everything he was saying.
Straight gas, gasoline, lighter
1880
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:52,800
fluid, going That's that's it's
so hard to even think about all
1881
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,200
the stuff he just said.
It's no other team that is as
1882
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,520
bad as we are since Brent
Pryor's been here.
1883
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,520
And I got to go back to it again
because we keep talking about
1884
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:05,200
money.
We're paying this man 4 million
1885
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,800
dollars, $4,000,000 to be this
bad.
1886
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:13,920
And then on top of that, he gets
on the podium after losses and
1887
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,400
after bad things happen and
goes, I think we got a good
1888
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,360
team.
No Sir, we don't.
1889
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:21,640
We don't got a good team.
We keep losing.
1890
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:25,720
You are one of the main reason
that we keep losing and you
1891
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:27,760
won't take accountability for it
to fix it.
1892
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,560
So I don't know what's going to
happen.
1893
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:36,000
I will say this, we are in the
age of NRL and we're in the age
1894
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,760
of money.
You can pay to have a team.
1895
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:40,840
I'm not saying that we have the
most money.
1896
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,160
But we got some.
We we had the money to give
1897
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,600
Xavier Chaplain to keep him in
Blacksburg.
1898
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:49,720
We had the money to give Monsour
Delane to keep him in
1899
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,040
Blacksburg.
I do believe that.
1900
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:54,560
I just don't think we managed it
the right way.
1901
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,400
We may have gave other people
money that didn't deserve it.
1902
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,640
You know, I think we're, we're
looking at a situation here
1903
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:05,440
where it might be the classic
overcorrect tally where you
1904
01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:09,480
know, you, you, you have you
brought back all the guys from
1905
01:39:09,480 --> 01:39:14,680
23 and it didn't work.
And so now you're like, well, we
1906
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,360
can't, we can't pay these guys
that are asking for more because
1907
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,520
we did that last year and we saw
what happened there.
1908
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:21,920
So we going to go in the other
direction and kind of moneyball
1909
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,560
it a little bit.
And while you got more depth
1910
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:28,440
overall, I'm not seeing the the
star power.
1911
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:34,040
And at the end of the day, you
got to make plays and, and if
1912
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:38,120
your coaching staff is not
setting you up and preparing you
1913
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,800
and adjusting at halftime and,
and, and making sure that
1914
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,920
everything that you need to do
to be prepared to win a football
1915
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,800
game is happening, none of that
matters.
1916
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,960
And, and I think that's the
problem is that we talked about
1917
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,520
the inconsistency of the
execution and the inconsistency
1918
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:58,200
of the players.
But at the end of the day, this
1919
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,760
staff has been inconsistent with
their execution, inconsistent
1920
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,800
with their in game decisions,
inconsistent with the way they
1921
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,680
prepare their team to play and
the adjustments that they make
1922
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,760
in the game.
They have been inconsistent and
1923
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,200
we've gotten to a point now
where this is who they are.
1924
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,800
We thought maybe some shuffles
were going to change things.
1925
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,880
We had a little bit of hope last
week, but they fell on their
1926
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:23,080
face in a must win situation
against Vanderbilt.
1927
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,000
And yeah, honestly, if they
would have won that game, that
1928
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,640
would have been the best win in
the Brent Pry era and that is
1929
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:31,120
sad to talk about.
I'm.
1930
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:34,920
Glad you hit it, Bron, because
what you said there about it's
1931
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,640
the coaches because I think we
watch.
1932
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:41,320
And you do think there are some
talented kids on this team.
1933
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,960
I had somebody stop by my desk
at work the other day and say
1934
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,240
we're just not talented.
I'm like, no, there's some
1935
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:51,200
talented kids on this team.
But the issue is coaches are not
1936
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,680
putting them in position to be
the most successful.
1937
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:56,160
And like you just said, Brian,
we're not adjusting.
1938
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:58,480
We're not getting motivated.
I love what Ambrose said a few
1939
01:40:58,480 --> 01:41:03,280
minutes ago because, you know,
Shelton, you've been around, you
1940
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,560
know, sports programs.
Tally, Brian, y'all played.
1941
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,840
What did he say to them in the
locker room?
1942
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:11,560
You're up 10 points that that
might have been the quote of the
1943
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,520
night.
What did you say to them?
1944
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,200
You are up 10 points.
You had forced 2 fumbles.
1945
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,640
You hit Pavia a few times, you'd
driven the ball a few times.
1946
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,040
The scores.
What did you say to them that
1947
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:27,560
literally made them check out?
And that is what a coach is not
1948
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:29,960
supposed to do.
Get your players to check out
1949
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:34,440
and completely just shit the bed
in half when you're up 10.
1950
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,480
This wasn't a high game.
Yeah, they they don't have them
1951
01:41:37,480 --> 01:41:42,920
mentally tough to withstand,
stand when they get punched
1952
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:44,480
back.
I know who told you that.
1953
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:46,400
I know who told you that.
I ain't saying it on Lair
1954
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:47,640
tonight.
But we know who said that.
1955
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:49,000
We know who said that.
I do.
1956
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,240
They're they're, they're not
mentally tough, man.
1957
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,760
They they get punched and then
they fold and now they might
1958
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,480
have enough talent to stay in a
game and a couple times still
1959
01:41:57,480 --> 01:42:00,320
get the win, but when they get
punched they they fold.
1960
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:01,800
It's true.
All right.
1961
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:06,160
So, Shelton, what happened
Saturday?
1962
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:07,920
You don't have to even give me a
record.
1963
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:11,760
You can just say win or loss.
Yeah, I mean, I think they'll, I
1964
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,960
think I think they'll win.
The thing is, like a lot of
1965
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:17,000
people are talking about, you
know, like, oh, what happens if
1966
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:18,840
we lose to ODU?
I'm actually worried about the
1967
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:20,480
opposite.
I'm worried what happens if we
1968
01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:23,440
beat up on ODU and Wofford and
finish six and six or dare say
1969
01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:25,640
even 7 and five?
I know it sounds crazy, but I
1970
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,320
still think it's a possibility.
Like we're just going to be
1971
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:32,120
stuck in, you know, purgatory.
You know, maybe some people feel
1972
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,000
differently about pride, maybe
against another year, I don't
1973
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,800
know.
But I'm worried about things
1974
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,680
kind of leveling out and people
sort of seeing like, Oh my gosh,
1975
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,280
you know, we're not as bad as we
thought and sort of using it as
1976
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,440
a reason to justify the further
complacency.
1977
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:45,880
So that's my biggest fear
because if we if we bottom out,
1978
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,120
you're like, OK, you know, you
just get rid of pride and we'll
1979
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,080
move on.
But if we kind of just, you
1980
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,240
know, float around the middle,
that's going to be that's going.
1981
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,160
To be worse.
Not saying, not saying I'm
1982
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:57,800
rooting for us to lose.
But lame duck is worse than an
1983
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,240
interim head coach at this.
Damn right it is, Brian.
1984
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,960
I'm again, I'm picking us to
lose because this is our
1985
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,240
principle at this point.
It's on.
1986
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:13,280
It's on principle at this point.
Show me you can win a game OD
1987
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,920
U's quarterback can run, so
could Diego Pavia.
1988
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,520
I'm worried that we're going to
see some of the same things
1989
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:23,000
happen in this game.
I mean, you know, you watch Ben
1990
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,840
Bell completely run with the
dive man in the triple option
1991
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:30,520
and like way out of position.
Like that's not that's not your
1992
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,920
responsibility, bro.
That's not your responsibility.
1993
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:37,720
Play your responsibility, be
smart and that's coaching.
1994
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:39,800
It goes back to coaching.
He should be coached good enough
1995
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,240
to not chase that ball like
that.
1996
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:45,440
Chase that play man.
And at the end of the day, you
1997
01:43:45,440 --> 01:43:48,520
got to be disciplined,
especially when you're playing a
1998
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,640
triple option offense,
especially when you're playing a
1999
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,080
team that has a mobile
quarterback.
2000
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,560
When the play breaks down, they
can make a play with their legs
2001
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:58,360
and you got an extra blocker
when you got a mobile
2002
01:43:58,360 --> 01:43:59,840
quarterback that can run the
football.
2003
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:04,280
So you've got to be in position.
And they didn't show me that
2004
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:08,120
against a Vanderbilt team.
I'm hoping they show me that
2005
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:12,360
against ODU, but I'm not picking
it, picking them to win again
2006
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:13,960
until they show me they can win
again.
2007
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,120
All right, I'm going to go next
because I won't tally close it
2008
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:20,000
out.
I think what Shelton just says
2009
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:21,840
is probably right.
I think we're going to win
2010
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,640
because again, I think there is
talent on this team and I think
2011
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,600
there are a few players who what
are they trying to do?
2012
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:29,640
They're trying to get more
money.
2013
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,360
They're trying to make it to the
next level.
2014
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:32,960
Predatory.
Great.
2015
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,240
When Where the hell you been,
Jim?
2016
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:37,840
I expected to meet Jim tonight.
Jim, you were late.
2017
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,600
I'm upset, but I think we went.
I don't, but I don't think it's
2018
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,680
pretty.
I don't think it's one of those.
2019
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,120
We punch him in the face.
I think it's going to be a damn
2020
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,600
grind fest.
So get your bourbon, get your
2021
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,520
cigarettes, get your dip out.
If you drink beer, do that.
2022
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,080
But get ready for a grind fest
Saturday night, Callie.
2023
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:59,600
If I got to do it, I really
don't want to do it.
2024
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:03,960
It's won a lot, yeah.
I'll say kind of what Curtis is
2025
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:07,240
saying, I think it's going to
be, you know, a grind fest.
2026
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,800
You know, I think we pull it
out, but I don't think it's
2027
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,120
pretty.
We may end up winning by 10,
2028
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,600
something like that.
Seven, I don't know, but I don't
2029
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,200
want to pick them to win just
because I'm pissed and I see
2030
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:23,320
what they keep doing.
But I will say this, Chad, if
2031
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:26,760
y'all don't know, I will be in
Vegas this weekend.
2032
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:28,920
So I won't watch a lick of this
fucking game.
2033
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,240
I won't watch nothing.
But if y'all want to send me
2034
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:33,840
some money, I'll give you my
cash out.
2035
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,600
I can put all of our money on
Brett Pryor being fired and we
2036
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,520
might make enough money and we
can get at least one player.
2037
01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:44,080
I mean, odds are kind of looking
good right now.
2038
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:48,280
Let's just double it up, put as
much money in there as possible.
2039
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:51,480
I'll shoot y'all to you know the
screenshot of me going and
2040
01:45:51,480 --> 01:45:53,800
dropping it in there?
That might be the play.
2041
01:45:54,480 --> 01:45:56,840
That might be the play.
That might be the play because
2042
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:59,320
it's pretty high right now.
And I think the feel from
2043
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:03,440
everybody, and this is not only
us, this is other podcasters,
2044
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:06,560
it's a tech sideline.
This is it's going to happen.
2045
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,920
The question is when?
So now that being said, now,
2046
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:13,320
Tally, I hope you you going to
go to a sports book, get some
2047
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:15,880
free drinks and let your bets
down that you can't do that.
2048
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:18,880
Yeah, yeah.
Let's get to it.
2049
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:24,080
Big screeners, You know, like,
like, was it Josh that said that
2050
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:27,040
he was watching the Michigan,
Oklahoma game while ours was on?
2051
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:30,040
Me and Brian were too.
But there we go.
2052
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:35,720
There's the current records.
Everybody two and two last week.
2053
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:39,920
No, you were, you were three and
you were three and. 1/3 and one
2054
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,760
baby, three and one.
Let's fire this up.
2055
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:47,520
Let me get my picks up here.
All right?
2056
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:52,680
We are my game.
I am taking the Clemson in
2057
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:56,760
Georgia Tech Georgia Tech a home
dog at plus 3 1/2.
2058
01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:00,880
Clemson Doo dooed all over
itself last Saturday afternoon.
2059
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:04,040
I think they were lucky with the
lightning delay that that
2060
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,920
somewhat even them out.
I think they get refocused
2061
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,240
because as much as I hate Dabo,
for some reason he knows how to
2062
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:15,480
get his kids focused.
I think it is a good game
2063
01:47:15,480 --> 01:47:18,640
against Georgia Tech, but 3 1/2
is not enough to cover.
2064
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:20,760
I think Clemson wins by a
touchdown.
2065
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:24,720
Give me Clemson, Shelton.
Yeah, I'll take Clemson, too.
2066
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:27,160
Like you said, I like Dabo to
have his guys ready to kind of
2067
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:29,520
punch back after a couple of
underwhelming performances the
2068
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:36,440
first two weeks.
Dabo brings his own guts, so
2069
01:47:36,440 --> 01:47:43,720
we're going to go with Clemson.
I am also rocking with with
2070
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:47,480
Clemson in this one, kind of
like Curtis and, and Sheldon
2071
01:47:47,480 --> 01:47:51,000
said they're, I think they've
they've had one game where they
2072
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:52,360
didn't really play the way they
wanted to.
2073
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,440
They had another game where they
completely laid an egg.
2074
01:47:54,440 --> 01:47:58,040
I think this is going to be a
focused team in a conference
2075
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:02,240
matchup that they're going to
need to win to keep their hopes
2076
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,360
alive for post season play.
So give me Clemson here.
2077
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,560
All righty.
Yeah, we go next one.
2078
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,080
Hallie, this is your this is the
one you putting all the money on
2079
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,800
Saturday night right when you in
Vegas getting your free drinky
2080
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:17,600
drinks there.
We go, I'm going to go with, I'm
2081
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,160
going to go with Notre Dame,
man.
2082
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:20,480
I'm going to go with Notre Dame
here.
2083
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:26,480
I just feel like 6 1/2 is, you
know, it's going to be a
2084
01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:29,200
touchdown game at least, and I
feel like Notre Dame will be the
2085
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:33,320
ones that's going to take it so.
Fine.
2086
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:38,760
Yeah, I'm going Notre Dame too.
I think A&M is still fool's
2087
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,920
gold, man.
Give me the Irish.
2088
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:47,800
Yeah, I'm, I'm with you, Brian.
I watch pieces of both the UTSA
2089
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:53,080
game and the Utah State game and
it did not look pretty where
2090
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:57,880
Notre Dame was in a freaking war
down at South Beach, battled all
2091
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,960
the way back, Damn near pulled
that off against Miami.
2092
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:05,200
I think home cooking is going to
help them and and tally it's I
2093
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:07,800
think what you said is right.
It's like a touchdown game.
2094
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:11,120
So when it's like this and I
like Notre Dame more, I'm going
2095
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,960
to go Notre Dame.
Yeah, I'm going.
2096
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,080
I'm going to or excuse me?
No, pardon me, I'm going.
2097
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,960
A&M, Really.
No particular reason.
2098
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,120
No, I just picked them.
I honestly don't know much about
2099
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,800
these teams.
He's not.
2100
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,360
All of us picked Notre Dame and
he just zigzagged on it, you
2101
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:27,880
know?
What?
2102
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:30,160
You know what?
Just take them.
2103
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,520
There we go.
Next up, Sheldon.
2104
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,400
Yes, Backyard Brawl.
I was really excited about this
2105
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:42,240
match up.
Even though West Virginia had a
2106
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:46,320
really ugly outing last week.
I for some reason, I just like
2107
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:47,680
them to bounce back.
I think they're going to be
2108
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,280
motivated to kick the rivals ass
of our heated rivalry.
2109
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,440
So I'm going, I'm going
Mountaineers.
2110
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,000
Mountaineers, there we go.
There we go.
2111
01:49:56,480 --> 01:49:59,040
Tally.
I hate both of these teams, but
2112
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,160
I hate the Mountaineers a little
bit more, so I couldn't pick
2113
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:04,680
them, so I picked Pitt.
They're an emotional.
2114
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:07,120
Pick hey.
Sometimes you got to go with the
2115
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,400
emotions, man.
I I went the other way.
2116
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:11,640
I'm kind of with Shelton on this
one.
2117
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:15,680
I think West Virginia has not
played that great a football so
2118
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:17,920
far.
I think that they kind of circle
2119
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:19,960
the wagons a little bit.
They're ready to play in this
2120
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:21,040
one.
I think it's going to come down
2121
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:23,000
to A1 score game.
I think it's going to be under a
2122
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,880
touchdown, so I'll take West
Virginia here.
2123
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:30,080
You're taking West Virginia.
I'm riding with Tally on this
2124
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:33,480
one because not necessarily that
I hate West Virginia or
2125
01:50:33,480 --> 01:50:37,680
anything, but West Virginia put
up 10 points against Ohio.
2126
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,560
Ohio.
And yes, that was not on the
2127
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:46,080
road.
That was at Mountaineer Field in
2128
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:50,880
Morgantown saying y'all what?
Know what Narduzzi likes to.
2129
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:52,360
He likes rough salt in people's
wounds.
2130
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,200
I think he going to go up there.
I think they going to kick their
2131
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:55,520
ass by about 14 points.
We're going.
2132
01:50:58,080 --> 01:50:59,640
To see.
We're going to see.
2133
01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:08,120
We are going to see Brian.
Oh, first of all, can we just
2134
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:11,800
say why isn't game day here?
Why isn't game day here?
2135
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:15,240
Why isn't game day here?
Because it's a 17 1/2 point
2136
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:18,000
spread.
And well, and, and that's,
2137
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,040
that's one of the problems with
with when we were looking at
2138
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,080
because I threw this game, I was
like, give me that game.
2139
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:26,400
And then I saw the spread.
I was like 17 1/2.
2140
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:32,480
Yeah. 17 1/2 may may, maybe if
it was like 14 or 15 in a hook
2141
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:36,440
maybe, but like 17 1/2 that's a
lot of points.
2142
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:38,880
So I think y'all know where I'm
going with this one.
2143
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,680
South Florida, man, that's too
many points.
2144
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:43,960
The way they played, they played
really well.
2145
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:47,280
They got some two big wins.
I don't think this is going to
2146
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:50,120
be a game where they are
outmatched or overmatched.
2147
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,400
I think they even if they get
down, they'll have the ability
2148
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:56,600
to punch back late.
So I think that at worse you're
2149
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,040
going to get a back door cover
here.
2150
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:05,240
So South Florida for me.
Brian, I believe I I lost my
2151
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:10,680
damn place here.
You're next South Florida, South
2152
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:16,400
Florida, yeah, you came y'all
stadium is worse and not as loud
2153
01:52:16,480 --> 01:52:20,760
and not as raucous.
So yeah, y'all aren't Florida on
2154
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:23,760
that.
But I just think the way it's
2155
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:27,920
go, the way that South Florida
has been coached, they came out
2156
01:52:28,480 --> 01:52:30,400
beat the living shit out of
Boise.
2157
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,680
Like just literally got punched
on that first drive.
2158
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,760
And then just, yeah, we've all
seen these funny fights on
2159
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:39,000
YouTube and stuff where somebody
gets hit in the face, they get
2160
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,440
sick, and then they just throw
like 7 haymakers in a row.
2161
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:44,000
That's what they did to Boise.
And then they got in a fist
2162
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,520
fight down the swamp.
I think.
2163
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:50,320
I think they're going to lose,
but 17 is just way too much
2164
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:51,920
delay.
I mean, that's so many points
2165
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:53,280
delay, especially the way they
play.
2166
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,880
Yeah.
Sheldon yeah, I'm taking S
2167
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:58,520
order.
That's that's a lot of points
2168
01:52:58,520 --> 01:52:59,840
there.
They can lose by 17.
2169
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:05,120
I don't think 17 1/2.
Yeah, and that's what I said.
2170
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:07,720
I was like it could be 3 scores
but it's not going to be more
2171
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:11,200
than 17.
Yeah, and I'm feeling the same
2172
01:53:11,200 --> 01:53:14,280
way.
I'm like 17 1/2 was too many.
2173
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:18,080
It might be 14 and maybe 17.
I think Miami's the more
2174
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,520
talented team and will win, but
I I don't think that they'll
2175
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:25,800
beat them by 21 points, 18
points, anything like that.
2176
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:29,240
Sorry to cover your face up
tally, but sure.
2177
01:53:29,880 --> 01:53:33,760
Yeah, no, it's all good.
All right, well there it is
2178
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:36,520
right there that are our pics
for this week.
2179
01:53:37,320 --> 01:53:40,240
Listen, I'm going to say it
again before we wrap it up.
2180
01:53:40,240 --> 01:53:43,280
Appreciate everybody.
Hey people, everybody in the
2181
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:44,800
chat tonight.
Y'all lit it up.
2182
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,120
But we we would tell everybody
to come on and talk for
2183
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:50,600
everybody that came on and
talked and gave their piece.
2184
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,000
That's what we want.
That's what we want.
2185
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:55,040
We had so many different
viewpoints, so many different
2186
01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:59,760
angles, and tonight is something
Brian had wanted to do for a
2187
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:01,560
while.
And like, we found the perfect
2188
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:03,560
spot to do it because
everybody's pissed right now
2189
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:07,280
because ain't nobody happy love
to hearing y'all's viewpoints on
2190
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:09,000
that.
And with that being said, let's
2191
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:12,160
wrap up this episode of the
Boundary Corner podcast.
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Welcome back to the Boundary
Corner Podcast, a part of the
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College held network.
Along with my partners Brian
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Siegler, Jonathan Talley and
Shelton Moss, I am Curtis
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Wilson.
This episode is brought to you
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Check it out.
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chat.
I'm putting up something for
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things to read here.
Yep, there's always time.
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We'll put the link in the chat
for it.
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Also visit Moments on the Mori
in their Instagram page.
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Speaking of links in the chat,
we got the the link in the chat
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for the family out there, the
listeners out there to come and
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join us tonight.
This is this is a therapy
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session.
This is an Irish wake.
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We're.
We're still telling the truth,
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though.
We're, we're saying goodbye,
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man.
Curtis, you got the you got the
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Hulk in the background ready to
Hulk out here.
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I'm throwing a link there in the
chat and if you guys see it in
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there, the stream yard link.
That's the way you can jump on
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here with us if you want to get
a little something off your
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chest here as well in the
process.
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So looking forward to hearing
from everybody.
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Maybe not new King, new king.
This is family only tonight, but
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I appreciate you in the chat.
There, let new King come in and
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shit, he'll be doing better than
our coach.
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He at least knows what winning
the hills.
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We might need to listen to him.
Hell.
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Hey man, he might have something
to to impart upon us and we
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certainly.
Are.
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Well, listen, so if y'all see
it, go ahead.
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Hold on, Charlie.
Real quick, this is the link you
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click in the chat to come
basically air your grievances.
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You ain't getting the full hour,
you ain't getting two hours.
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We're going to give you a few
minutes, Yeah.
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This is space rules.
This is not you got the mic for
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as long as you want the mic.
This is, you know, come on,
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let's say a little thing.
We'll maybe do a little back and
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forth and we'll get the next one
up there, but we just wanted to
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hear from everybody.
I think, you know, when we
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looked at the Fuente area, I
think a lot of people pointed to
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that Liberty game is kind of the
breaking point.
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I know it was for Curtis and I
and I think, you know, for a lot
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of fan bases and a lot,
especially everybody on this
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podcast, I think this Vanderbilt
lost and the way it went down
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was kind of a breaking point for
us.
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So here we.
Are well, hold on, we voted.
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We voted after this game
Saturday, all four of us.
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We I sent a message and I said,
y'all, and I'm the optimistic
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one usually of this crew.
I am a very optimistic person,
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life in general.
And I was like, I'm out, I'm
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out.
I can't do it anymore.
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So I'm out right now.
I'm still going to watch the
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game.
I and I said here and I told
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somebody earlier, I hope I'm
fucking wrong.
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I hope I'm absolutely wrong and
it's 10 and two in East Ember
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and I am eating crow.
That's what I hope.
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There is no hope, Curtis.
But I don't feel it anymore.
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I don't feel the hope is gone
again.
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I hope that happens, but it's
gone.
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Yeah, it's no hope.
You you can hope it.
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I'm glad that you've you are
that kind of person because
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sometimes that's what we need.
But what we also need is to be
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truthful with ourselves.
And that's what I love about
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what we do.
And again, what Curtis was
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saying, we love y'all, we are
family.
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We're glad that y'all TuneIn and
spend some time with us.
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I ran a space after the game
till probably about 2:33 in the
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morning, just getting some stuff
out, letting people vent.
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It's great, man.
I love Hokey Nation.
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I love my guys, but this is not
what you want to see.
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This is what what we've been
saying is not we want to say I
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know we're going to get into it,
but just going over some of the
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rules, not really.
I want to call them rules.
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That sounds bad, but just what
we, what we want to do here.
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If you got something, we want
you to come in.
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We do want to hear from you.
Please use the link.
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Hop on.
Tell us how you feel and where
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you're at right now.
You ain't got 10 minutes.
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You ain't got five.
You got about 3 minutes.
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Come on, tell us how you feel,
drop your point and then we got
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to go to the next person.
So unless you unless you know
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some stuff that we don't know if
is he getting fired?
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If you come over here and say
he's getting fired, we're going
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to let you talk all night
because we ready to hear that.
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But anyway, Sheldon, you've been
quiet, man.
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Are you here with me today?
No, I'm just I'm, I'm prepping
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my laundry list of attack points
that I can, I can cure this
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coaching staff with.
When you hear laundry list,
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attack points and skewer coming
from Shelton, you better get
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ready.
You got to be in for a long
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night, buddy.
I try to tell you all how
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however bad you think the prior
has been, it's actually worse
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than you think so.
It's just eye opening, man.
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It was eye opening.
It's because most of the time
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you've seen a team that hasn't
really quit on a coach or hasn't
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quit playing in a lot of games.
We like, Oh, we almost there.
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We keep losing these close
games.
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No, we to the point now where we
getting we getting ran off the
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field.
You know, it's just and it was a
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little bit last it was a little
bit the first week where it was
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a close game going into the 4th
and then we couldn't manufacture
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nothing.
And then they just end up
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beating us by two scores.
Then last week, you know you
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had. 10 point lead.
You're a 10 point lead going
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into halftime lead and then it
just snowballs until a joke.
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You know, I put a tweet out
earlier and I'll talk about it a
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little later.
I don't want to get into
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everything now, but again,
people think that I'm bashing
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tradition and I'm bashing the
interest and I'm not.
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But if you look at it, it is a
joke.
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It's a gimmick.
You know what I'm saying?
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It's like I don't even know what
the what to compare it to.
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I like to go through metaphors.
There's nothing to compare it to
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you.
Everybody said we can't get rid
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of that.
We can't we have we What are we
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needed for it?
Use it for motivation.
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I don't know how you do it or
what you do, but I'm tired of
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every weekend y'all telling me
how great the entrance is and
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then we get killed on the field
and other teams are using us as
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a joke.
Their their PR teams are always
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exit sent, man them or exit, you
know, in a I'm tired of all of
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that.
When you ask for the joke is
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what?
It is.
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Come on man, we.
Got our first person first
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person jump on is.
I think I'm I'm friend, right?
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Hey, good evening.
Can y'all hear me first go?
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Round here.
We got to be there.
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I'm clear, Vito.
Yeah, don't the visual, don't
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worry about the visual.
I'm in bed and Xbox that's.
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That's OK.
I'm in bed playing Xbox.
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I'm, I mean, listen, I'm hot.
Ain't gonna hold.
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I'm hot.
What I can talk about.
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I can talk or you can say.
You have the floor for the next
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couple minutes, man, it's all
this.
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Is this is the hold up before
you start veto?
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Like I said, I didn't get all
into it, but this is the
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realistic is it's going to get
you ain't got to hold nothing
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back.
Say what you got to.
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Say OK we ain't got to play no
politic games on here.
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I know y'all got relationships.
You say what you got.
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To say.
I like Brent, pride of person.
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I think we all do right.
We all like Brent pride of
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person.
I don't like being proud of
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coach man.
It's it's it's it's year 4 and I
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can appreciate what he's done as
far as having to fix what
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dickhead left him.
You know, I can I understand
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that.
I'm not here to act like he did
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nothing, but it's at a point now
where it's time for we we need a
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complete.
We need a complete change from
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the top down.
We got listen with Babcock and
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you're going to have your day in
the sun.
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Excuse me, you're going to have
your day in the sun too with
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Babcock.
But we talking ball right now.
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We need somebody away from the
family because even when they
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did it with Fuente, they tried
to saddle him down with Beamer
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stuff like now we need a
complete.
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We need to detach from all of
it.
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We need a whole new vision for
Virginia Tech football.
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Shout out to Brent Price.
He's a great guy.
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Probably all this shit, you
know, all that shit.
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They said he had a big Dick and
all that weird shit, all, you
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know, whatever.
But we need somebody that's got
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a vision for Virginia Tech
football that's going to take us
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into the future.
No more Frank disciples.
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No more Bud Foster disciples.
Nothing like that.
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The only person affiliated with
Virginia Tech that realistically
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could get this head coaching job
within three years.
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We'll beat Michael Vick, but we
don't know if he's ready to run
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a program to recruit and all
that shit.
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Shout out to him.
You know he's from the city.
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We're from the same city.
But I think we need to go into a
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different direction and not
saddle the next AD or coach with
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the you need to be like Frank
because Frank was a one of one.
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Ain't going to be no more Frank
Beamers.
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That's my thing.
That's real, man.
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That's that's that's like I was
just telling the guys to kind of
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put a tweet out similar to that
earlier, just about it got some
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Flack from it.
But what what Vito said is I, I
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feel it so great.
Great stuff.
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Vito, I'll say just real quick,
because I know you, you're doing
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your thing.
Did you?
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Because I, I, I talked to you.
So I know how you feel, but I
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want you to kind of tell him a
little bit about did you feel
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that the end was was there at
the beginning of the season or
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was it just this game that you
was like, I'm broke, That's it?
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In in my in my honest opinion,
we knew let me not speak other
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people.
I knew he was going to lose in
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South Carolina.
And the only question I kept
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asking myself and others was was
the performance in South
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Carolina bullshit or was that
did we really kind of turn the
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corner defensively?
Because I'm the Virginia Tech
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fan that get on people nerves
because I'm the person that's
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always that's not like just kill
everybody that leads the program
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for good or bad reasons.
So I'm the one saying, hey, I
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don't got to say nobody's names
and all that, but hey, what do
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these players actually suck or
were they good that that we just
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saying that we better off now?
You know, I hate to piss on
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people's parade, but I'm like,
we kind of lost some good
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players and I was just told that
we was better off.
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So I don't argue with people.
I just asked the questions
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before the games are played
because people normally feel
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their best before the season.
So I'm like, Hey, y'all show
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these guys good and I watched
the South Carolina game and I'm
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seeing a *** named Tackle Fall.
I know his name is Tackle, but
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they they tag Tackle Falls.
So I'm seeing Tackle Fall get a
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TfL.
I'm seeing, you know, shout out
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the Emmett Laws.
Emmett Laws had that game in his
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life.
I'm like, y'all sure this is the
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real team, but maybe we would
just gas up in South Carolina.
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We're playing in Atlanta.
If you're going to get Shane, is
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this the MPA?
You know, they're like, no, it's
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the real defensive line we keep
as hell.
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And then the very next week, not
even six days later, Vanderbilt
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is running through big assholes.
So it's looking like I predicted
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6 and six.
We're we're headed towards 6:00
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and 6:00.
But it's just I get tired of the
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propaganda, the last the
spending the coke, the bullshit.
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It it makes me disillusioned as
a Virginia Tech fan because I
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know what the hell I'm looking
at.
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But I keep getting told it's
raining and I pissed.
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That's all.
That's all I got to say before I
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start saying shit.
The fuck y'all relationship
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stuff?
Oh.
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You good, they already there so.
Yeah, we're getting there, man.
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You ain't got to worry about
that bro.
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I mean appreciate.
You at this point we kind of
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figured you know, we we we see
the way the wind's blowing man
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let's let's send this off the
right way.
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Let's let's get the fans out
there.
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Let's let's let them talk a
little bit.
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We appreciate you, Vito and
always.
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Thank you.
Jump on with us and let before I
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leave, let me just say Boundary
Corner podcast has always been
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the best Virginia Tech podcast.
And that's no shade that nobody
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else.
Y'all just better than everybody
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else.
Y'all was better than me when I
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was doing this shit and I've
been doing this shit for a long
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time.
So shout out to BCP.
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Y'all always do the work.
Y'all always do the research
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before games and I always enjoy
listening to y'all interview
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people or do content because
doing content is hard.
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Like people don't understand how
much they give me a job.
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Especially if he ain't making a
whole bunch of money doing this
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shit.
So shout out to y'all man.
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Everybody shout out to all
y'all.
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Appreciate your e-mail.
Appreciate your vivo.
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Thanks for coming on.
With us, man, my guy, people
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don't know man.
Vito is a he's another be a new
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game OG of of.
Doing this shit.
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He knows his stuff, whether you
listen to him or not or you
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haven't listened to him, you you
should check out some of his
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stuff.
Vito actually was the first
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person that I got on that I got
on a podcast with.
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I don't even think it came out
because me and him ended up just
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talking for like 3 hours.
But anyway, Vito, thank you for
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coming on man.
Who we got next, Brian?
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John Earle, Boys.
John Earle.
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John Earl.
No picture for John Earl either.
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Hey, what's on?
There he.
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Is where's the Miller?
Where's the Miller?
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Right here in the Way tonight,
boys.
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Dude I have an alumni event
tonight.
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I literally just got back so I'm
here all.
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Right, so go.
What are you feeling, man?
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I mean, you've been around this
program for a long, long time
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with your parents taking you up.
You were at the game Saturday.
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I know you.
You told us you were heading up.
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You're supposed to have a Are
you going back this weekend?
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Yeah, he's going.
Oh, he's.
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Yeah, I'm going up this weekend
with one of my neighbors who's
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never been to a Virginia Tech
game ever.
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And I literally texted him after
the game, after I got back to my
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hotel in Christiansburg, I said
I've never felt so disappointed
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in the second-half in a long ass
time.
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And he's like, wow, 34 points in
the second-half.
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I was like, you haven't
experienced pretty tech football
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the way I have.
But yeah.
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And I literally so my parents
have club seats and as soon as
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we did not go for it on 4th down
one on the very first possession
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in the second-half that.
Was a person.
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Ever.
No.
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I agree.
I agree.
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No.
Everybody in the East dance
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around me said we're losing this
game.
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Yeah, kid you not.
That's not and and the thing
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about that too, John, I'm glad
that you are talking about that
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'cause you was there.
I'm watching it on TV for people
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who in for, you know, chat.
I know y'all was watching or
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probably some of y'all was
there.
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That's not anybody being a
hater.
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That's what you built as a
coach.
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That's the reputation that you
have.
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Whenever that happened,
everybody said, OK, this game is
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going to go just like the other
fucking how many games you've
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been here?
35 games, 40 games somewhere
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around now.
So I think he's 16 and 23
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somewhere around there.
So yeah, that's right around 40
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games.
So it's like this is what you
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built, this is what you are.
This is what we know.
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But we've seen the team have
fight, but at that point it
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looked like they're on their
sideline going crazy.
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They coaches are yelling at the
refs, which they should have
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been wanting to win, throwing
headsets, running on the field,
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and our coach is over there
clapping his hands, scratching
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his balls.
Come on man.
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The the notepad at this point is
getting the the the notepad is
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killing me man.
I'm I'm like.
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Quit it, there ain't shit else
to write down.
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At some point get, get, get a,
get an intern to do that for you
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and you, you be engaged in the
game, you be active.
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You got to get active during
these games.
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John I did.
John, I'll just go ahead.
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Curtis, get it back to me.
Earl real real quick, like us 4
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wearing some chats with you.
Are you out?
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Are you?
Are you out?
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I'm definitely out on prime at
this point as is like my whole
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family pretty much.
OK, I'm out.
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I'm out on with as well, but I
feel like that's been known for
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a while.
But yeah, but about.
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Sayings We taking it all the way
up to the top.
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We going sands all the way down.
You you might, you might as
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well.
But I will say I I dug in a
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little.
Deeper there today because I'm a
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fucking nerd.
I will say I will say the
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interesting fact that I found is
hub prize home games.
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He's only had three games that
weren't sold out.
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Damn, and I was sort of 20.
Two in 2022 Georgia Tech and
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Wofford and then 2023 Syracuse,
and that street will probably.
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End.
This weekend.
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Yeah.
It's not this weekend, it's
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definitely in Wofford.
All right.
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Well, Earl, appreciate you
jumping on with us, man.
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Always fun to talk with you.
We're going to let somebody else
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up in here because the next
person we're going to let up.
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Well, he pay the bills, so he
got to get his FaceTime talking,
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man.
Appreciate it, Earl.
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Hey, hey, what up?
What is going on, man?
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What up by the way?
Burn it all down, I.
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Always write something.
Hang on, I'm drawing up a play
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here and I'm going to figure it
all out.
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But I mean, we live.
I've been going to tech games
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since I was in the womb.
It's probably going to be
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backwards and it's in pencil.
I don't know if y'all can see
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that, but it says we deserve
better.
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Like, just like the guy who was
just on like so many sellouts
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with so much mediocrity and like
Chris Coleman, that Tech
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sideline and those guys have
finally been telling the truth
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about what the fuck has been
going on and how bad it is.
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And it's so bad.
Like, we're this little podunk
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little school in little old
Virginia Tech.
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And it's hard to believe that
what was it 20 years ago, 24
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years ago, we had the highest
paid coaching staff in the
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country, your second highest
paid.
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We couldn't figure out that's
what it took.
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I'm still wearing my damn hokey
shirt.
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I told Curtis fucking I'm done
with it.
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But I'm a basketball fan, so
this is a basketball shirt.
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This is not a football shirt.
Neo, neo, Neo.
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I'm going to the Bahamas.
Don't tell my kids they don't
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know yet, but we're going to.
My ass going to be on TV and I'm
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going to be repping the boundary
corner logo, I hope.
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But I'm just tired of it all.
Do not worry Phil.
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Phil is going to do a live
remote call in from Atlantis in
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November.
There you go, Let him get up.
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Here 1885 like, come on, man.
Like I'm just like Frankie
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Allen.
He was terrible coach too.
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Not as bad as coach print pride.
And I'm tired of hearing he's a
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nice guy.
I don't care.
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He's paid four and a half
million dollars.
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Be an asshole.
Step up.
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Why are we not yelling at
people?
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Why are we not yelling at?
People, I get that.
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I don't.
Everybody says it.
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He's like I'm getting my paid no
matter what.
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I don't that's what it feels
like.
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I don't get it.
It's just when people like feel
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when people when I'm when I'm
doing a space indeed.
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And I get some people say well
y'all have to understand and I
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said I don't have to understand.
He's a millionaire to be a
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loser.
Multi millionaire multi
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millionaire living in
Blacksburg, VA making four and a
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half, $1,000,000 to not coach
and to go to PKS and drink.
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But he loves the almond
brothers, so it's cool, man.
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Let's go, let's go.
It's.
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Cool almond brothers.
Fuck Almond Joy.
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I got almond.
The whole thing, but like
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honestly, the bigger issue like
look and the more I think about
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it, I would love that Fuente
back and his coaching ability
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with the resources that Brent
Pryor had would have been nice
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like Fuente with the talent last
year.
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Come on man, that wouldn't even
been fair in my opinion.
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And.
Fuente was a piece of shit
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though.
He he just, he was going to run
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people off because of how he was
as a person.
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He could maybe, but he just not
go to schools in Virginia and
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say we just gonna go to Texas
and that shit don't work.
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So I get where you coming from,
Phil, but it's like it's
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coaching.
The building was pretty.
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Good, where?
How screwed we are Tally that.
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I think Fuente is the answer
now, but.
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What the issue is, is this had
two chances to hire a coach and
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he's hired one total coach
between two of them.
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He hired a guy that could coach
but couldn't do everything else,
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and he had a guy hired a guy
that could do everything else.
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But he can't coach he.
Forgets everything that we're
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00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,640
talking about for a minute and
then I'm going to let y'all
423
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,880
throw it back to field for a
second.
424
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,880
Come and chat.
I need y'all to understand the
425
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,480
severity it is.
Phil is so fucked up that he
426
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,600
said send me back to the
oppressor.
427
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,040
Give me point, give me, give me.
Give me, Give me water bottle.
428
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,280
Give me the water bottle.
That's how fucked up he is.
429
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,400
That.
Speaks volumes.
430
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,160
It's so frustrating, I don't
know, but maybe it's my fault
431
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,880
for having high expectations
and.
432
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,400
No.
No, but like 3 sellouts like
433
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,880
with it's there.
I'm tired of all the excuses but
434
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,280
we need to start from the top
like it's been a mess for a long
435
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,960
time or two.
Parochial, we have been this all
436
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,600
shucks attitude.
We'll figure it out.
437
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,160
Like the fundraising has never
been there.
438
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,560
We don't even have a head of
fundraising in the right place.
439
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,880
Like I don't I don't know, look,
I don't have the answers, but
440
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,520
I'm also if you pay me $4
million, I'd pay somebody to get
441
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,200
the damn answers.
I can tell you that like like I
442
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,440
don't I'd pay somebody a hell of
a lot smarter than me.
443
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,320
I wouldn't do anything.
I'd be up there with a remote
444
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,000
control.
Like look, I'm doing everything,
445
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,040
but I'm not doing shit.
Like that's what it looks like
446
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,440
he's doing.
Like they said at one point
447
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,600
somebody he was trying to call a
time out in the game and
448
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,920
somebody was pulling him back
saying don't call a time out,
449
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,440
dummy.
We got plenty of time to call
450
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,240
the time out that Chris was like
pulling him back at the end of
451
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,040
the half.
He's just AI don't know.
452
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,320
I don't understand.
Like I've had enough beers to
453
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,400
call a better game than he has
in the second-half.
454
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,800
I don't get it.
I don't it doesn't.
455
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,640
So, but y'all keep doing what
you're doing.
456
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,040
I'm not I I quit hokey football,
but I'm still going to watch
457
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,880
because I don't have any hobbies
and two and like I love y'all
458
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,040
like keep doing what you're
doing.
459
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,360
Keep talking about it because
eventually somebody will see it
460
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:52,120
and they'll be like, damn, this
is where we need to be.
461
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,480
So damn Bill, basketball season
is coming.
462
00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:01,080
Neo is coming basketball.
Hey.
463
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,920
But listen, I told you as a
sponsor of this show, you get
464
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,560
first class treatment on in in
December when we do it and
465
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,320
that's like we get drunk and let
shit go.
466
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,880
We don't give a fuck bad things
that happened that night.
467
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,800
I mean, this is basically that,
just without all the alcohol
468
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:16,720
without.
All the alcohol.
469
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,240
Speak for yourself on that.
I don't know what.
470
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,000
You're talking about I'm, I'm
riding the Voodoo Ranger.
471
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,200
With a little bit, but you know
I ain't 10D.
472
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,280
I just, I don't know, Hoku fans
deserve better and I, and we
473
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,440
literally do when we're, I would
say this ODU, it feels like
474
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,360
every game is like this is the
biggest game ever.
475
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,600
We're going to see what the
stands look like at 7:00
476
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,720
Saturday night.
Yeah, we're going to see what
477
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,920
that looks like.
And I hope people still going to
478
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,600
be there, man.
What else?
479
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,320
Why not I?
I hope they.
480
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,440
I don't think they're going to
sell out, but I think people
481
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,480
still going to be there because
people love Virginia Tech, man,
482
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,920
They're going to show up.
Paper bag game Will everybody
483
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,600
wear paper bag?
Please, I hope, I hope some
484
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,520
people do something.
I just hope it's some kind of
485
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:55,880
peaceful protest.
Do something.
486
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,880
Peaceful protest.
Yeah, I don't know.
487
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,720
It'll be good.
Hey, women's soccer, man, let's
488
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:02,640
go.
It's going to be great.
489
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,280
Let's go.
Women's soccer and men's soccer.
490
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,240
Let's go.
That's what we got.
491
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,680
So.
Keep it up.
492
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,640
Thanks for jumping on man later.
We deserve better.
493
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,080
See y'all, we deserve better.
We deserve better.
494
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,920
By the way, that is one of our
sponsors from moments on the
495
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,640
Moray.
I've known Phil close to I guess
496
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,760
20 years now, because when I
started dating my wife, my wife
497
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,720
and his wife basically grew up
together.
498
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,080
And by the way, Phil, Phil,
Phil's the guy.
499
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,000
Let me get on Lot 1 one time.
Just so y'all know, he's the man
500
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,520
to brought Curtis to lot 1.
So one question about field and
501
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,640
moments on the boy.
How many rooms is?
502
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,480
How many rooms is that place
got?
503
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,560
So that place, if everybody
wants to know it is a four
504
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,120
bedroom place.
It's three full bedrooms with a
505
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,040
like bunk room for kids plus
pull out sofas.
506
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,040
I mean you can look at the the
link in there man.
507
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,840
You guys walk up deck.
It is, it's, it's, it's awesome.
508
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,000
It's awesome.
It was so much fun going there
509
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,080
this summer with our families,
you know, pound me and him
510
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,920
pounding beers, talking about
this upcoming season.
511
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,760
So again, check it out.
You're supporting the Hokie when
512
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,080
you do that.
And obviously he ain't fucking
513
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,840
happy either.
He texted me that shit multiple
514
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,440
times over the weekend that he
was done with baseball.
515
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,040
Joe, get your ass off mute.
Joe, we're going to kick your
516
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,160
ass out if you don't get off
mute.
517
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,760
He probably ran to the bathroom
where she I was about to throw
518
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,440
at the shelf.
Joe.
519
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:35,600
Joe.
If you're speaking, we cannot
520
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,320
hear you.
Yeah, if you're saying I cannot
521
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,120
hear you, by the way, here you
go. 3 big bedrooms and a bunk
522
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,480
bed you can get.
You can get air mattresses on
523
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:49,200
the floors of those bedrooms.
Yeah.
524
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,840
Get this, Andretti.
Click the link.
525
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,400
Get in the link, Brian.
Put it in there.
526
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,320
We'll go, we'll go another one
here.
527
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,680
Andretti, you hearing us, man?
Click on and get with us.
528
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,520
Joe, We're going to give you
like I'm going to give you 30
529
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,640
seconds.
We can put you back in the
530
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,800
waiting room.
Yeah, like Chris said, he said.
531
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,480
Joe taking care of that baby it.
Probably is, yeah, you're.
532
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,280
Right.
Hey listen, the reason I was so
533
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,040
damn late coming tonight was
because wife went to the girls
534
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,840
night and I had to make sure the
kids were asleep before I ran in
535
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,800
here.
Right.
536
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,680
I never.
Asleep.
537
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,520
Now, we hadn't heard much from
the statistician, Shelton.
538
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,720
Yeah.
So you got anything that you
539
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,600
want to throw in?
I know you got a lot, but do you
540
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,440
got anything you just want to
throw in right now?
541
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,400
I mean, no, I'm, I'm kind of
sitting on my, my spiel right
542
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,920
now, but yeah, it's I, I, I
don't even know how it's like
543
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,840
physically possible to play that
bad in a single half.
544
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,320
Like getting out yarded by like
300.
545
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,080
I, I don't think I've ever seen
it before in my life.
546
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,560
Like we didn't have a single
good play in the entire half
547
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,920
that actually meant anything.
And I thought like we barely had
548
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,880
a, we, we didn't have a single
good defensive Dr. at all.
549
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,960
Like it's just shocking.
We we barely played like one
550
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,160
good defensive snap and I didn't
see any good offensive snaps
551
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,360
that whole second-half.
It it was, it was atrocious.
552
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,240
It was one of the worst halves
of football I've ever watched in
553
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:13,080
any sport.
And I've watched like Guyadette
554
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:19,200
play a playoff caliber Randolph
Bacon squad and and get
555
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,000
hammered.
And this was not even that I've
556
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,600
I've watched when you know, when
Thomas Jefferson was an awful
557
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,720
Richmond football program, play
some of the best of the best in
558
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,520
Highland Springs and some of the
others in the area and get you
559
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,400
just Molly walk back in the, you
know, 2000s and early twenty
560
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,960
10's.
And this for for the half that
561
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,160
we watched, that was the worst
I've seen in terms of lopsided
562
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,360
performances.
That was it.
563
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,240
It was depressing.
That was it.
564
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,840
There was effectively with no
fight, no thought, no game plan.
565
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,640
What you said, Talia.
There was no fire on the
566
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,280
sidelines ripping people and
screaming at people.
567
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,160
It was there was a look somebody
caught, I think, and it
568
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,320
literally said it was late 3rd
or early fourth quarter.
569
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,360
That picture were probably just
sitting there just like glancing
570
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,720
like, what?
What the Hell's happening?
571
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,400
And it's like you're getting
paid.
572
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,840
As Phil said, you were getting
paid four and a half, $1,000,000
573
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,360
to coach football.
So yeah, hey, listen, I love all
574
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,360
the comments in the chat, don't
get me wrong, but this is about
575
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,640
y'all, the things y'all were
typing.
576
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,760
Get on here, say them.
If you have a video, cool.
577
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,920
If you don't have video, as long
as we can hear your voice, this
578
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,120
is what it's about.
Tonight, we're just telling the
579
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,840
truth about where the program is
in general, and it's not in a
580
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,480
good spot.
Now saying that, I think we will
581
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,120
all agree where we are as far as
relationship ways with high
582
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,800
schools probably fix that.
It's in a significantly better
583
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,120
spot than it was in 2020, the
end of 2021.
584
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,880
It is.
I feel like somebody put a good
585
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,920
tweet out.
I can't remember who it was.
586
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,120
I wish I could remember the
name, username 571 Hokey or
587
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,400
something.
They pretty much said something
588
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,480
like, you know, Pride was a good
caretaker.
589
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,800
He did a great job of yes, for
the program and getting the
590
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,720
program to a certain spot, but
he's not a good head coach.
591
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,240
It's time for you.
It's time for us to get a real
592
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,360
head coach in that knows how to
win, that knows how to build.
593
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,520
That's what it is, man.
It's like it's, it's, it's just
594
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,880
if he was getting paid $950,000
maybe, and we had to, you know,
595
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,200
I hate that.
It's always about money, but
596
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,360
it's about money.
Like he's getting paid really
597
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,240
good money to be a bad coach.
And like I said, I know
598
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,480
Sheldon's sitting on his,
sitting on his, on his, on his,
599
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,560
his point, his points that he's
going to make.
600
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,320
But some of this stuff is
alarming when you look at like
601
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,920
records, records against winning
teams, records against, you
602
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,920
know, when you're leading a game
at this, like it's just O and
603
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,520
16, you know, one in one in 17.
It's it's crazy numbers, man.
604
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,360
They're just tired of it.
So it, it is no, from my from my
605
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,800
perspective, there is no, you
know, if we do this, if we're,
606
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,720
we're losing, we're losers.
We're not winning nothing.
607
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,720
You know, even even going into
this weekend, I'm saying we're
608
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,200
going to lose.
I don't, I, I won't pick us to
609
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,880
win against anybody because of
what I've seen Saturday night.
610
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,560
It was, it was terrible.
Like Sheldon said, we got out
611
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,840
game.
I think we had negative yards in
612
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,080
the second-half.
All right, here we go.
613
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,080
Here we.
Go.
614
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,400
Oh man, first of all.
Andre.
615
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,960
Always in the chat, always
lighten it up.
616
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,000
Andretti.
Welcome to BCP, buddy.
617
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,320
Can you hear us?
We can't hear you, Andretti.
618
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,960
If you talk, not hear you.
OK, We hear you a little bit.
619
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,560
Hear you a little bit.
Make sure you got the speaker
620
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,400
on.
Can you hear me?
621
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,600
Very, very low.
Very low.
622
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,320
Yeah.
Let me try to let me try to ramp
623
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:03,400
you up here.
Hang on just a second.
624
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,480
Hold on, stay on the line, stay
on the line.
625
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,280
I should have called my neighbor
about how to do this shit man.
626
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,560
Messing.
Me up.
627
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,800
All right, give that a go.
Let's see what we got.
628
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,840
Go ahead.
I I can hear you.
629
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,440
OK, Here we go.
Hey.
630
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,960
Hey.
Now we can hear you.
631
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,560
We got you.
Not enough.
632
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,239
Yeah, we good.
Go ahead, man.
633
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,880
How you feeling Andrada?
Tell us how you feel.
634
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:31,320
Tell us how you feeling brother.
Man, fuck.
635
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:31,960
Tech.
Man.
636
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,199
You got the Eagles hat on, you
say.
637
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,480
You done like?
I'm pissed, man, I'm pissed.
638
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,679
I feel you.
I mean, I think that's kind of
639
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,760
how we all are right now, yeah.
Pride drones all them got to go
640
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:55,400
bro.
I don't like nobody no more I'm.
641
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,719
Serious ship.
Ship them all off.
642
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,320
Andre said he hate everything
right now about Virginia Tech.
643
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,200
I don't even like #20 no more.
I'm done worried about just call
644
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:11,200
it burn the whole house down.
Yeah, I'm.
645
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,000
I'm sick of them bro.
No, I get it.
646
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,000
I understand, man.
I mean, that's kind of how we
647
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,760
how everybody feeling.
So I I got a lot of friends,
648
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,120
man.
We beef all the time.
649
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,960
My boys like Penn State, of
course, everybody like Ohio
650
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,920
State.
So everybody called me.
651
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,680
You still fucking with the
hokey?
652
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,880
I'm like God.
Damn man, they tried to recruit
653
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,760
you.
That's dirty.
654
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,400
They trying to recruit you.
Yeah, it's bad.
655
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,800
They dropping bags.
They dropping bags and ready.
656
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,600
Come on.
Yeah, it's bad.
657
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,920
It's bad.
We got.
658
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,080
I'm sick man, I don't think we
going to be old to you.
659
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,280
I definitely don't feel good
about it.
660
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:57,000
I feel the.
The line went from 10 1/2 to 7
661
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,560
in like 12 hours.
If you that tells you how
662
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,080
everybody's feeling about us.
How are we?
663
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,920
Going to win if you can't block.
Yeah, 2 starting line lineman
664
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,360
get hurt.
And that's all it took for the
665
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,080
wheels to fall off, apparently,
apparently.
666
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,560
Hold on, hold on.
How do we not have a mitigation
667
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,840
strategy for alignment going
down?
668
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,600
Like at some point, like you got
to be, you got to not only not
669
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,320
only account for that in your
depth, but account for that as
670
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,880
an offensive coordinator.
Like that's almighty.
671
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,720
You got to say, all right, well,
we, we don't have the time that
672
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:33,320
we normally have.
We don't have this, we don't
673
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,720
have that.
I've got to do something to get
674
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:36,360
the ball out of my quarterbacks
hands fast.
675
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,480
We got to take advantage of this
pass rush that they're bringing,
676
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,120
none of that.
Yeah, man, coaches are valid.
677
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,240
Can we really get Gruden can.
We, we, we, we.
678
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:49,760
Well, that's the whole thing.
The first thing is you got to
679
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,440
let everything out and how you
feel and it's coming out now.
680
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,760
Everybody there is effectively
from everything that I have read
681
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,640
and we have probably read the
last 72 hours, ain't nobody on
682
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,720
their side anymore.
And if people start not getting
683
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:06,200
on their side, the people who
have a lot of this, who give
684
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,400
that money is going to say, I'm
not giving you this 10 million
685
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,840
this year unless some shit
changes.
686
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,360
So this is the area of the
grievances because I think we
687
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,520
all get to feel that probably in
the next couple months it's all
688
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,200
going to happen.
They're going to hold the money
689
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,280
out there, but they're going to
have them tight hands on it or
690
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,520
say hey, hey.
Shit going to change I'm.
691
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,320
Not letting this go until
something happens.
692
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,040
So Andrey, real quick before we
we let you go, just how did you
693
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,160
up in Philly, man?
How did you become a a tech?
694
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,120
No, no, I'm from, I'm from
there.
695
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,040
I'm in.
I'm in 757 now.
696
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,920
OK, OK.
Did you?
697
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,200
Become a tech fan up there when
you got down to 7 five.
698
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,480
No in the PA.
OK, how did that happen?
699
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,560
Explain Like was it Victoria?
Was it somebody else or no, No,
700
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,400
I'm actually Victoria age.
It's just it seemed like tech
701
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,120
and the eagles seem like the
same thing to me.
702
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,080
Hard nosed, gritty, great
defense.
703
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,320
Our.
Offense was shitty back in the
704
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,280
days we we just had a buddy Ryan
defense that would kill anything
705
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,640
and the hokey seemed the same
way to me always kind of
706
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,760
undecized strong.
Nobody wanted to play As for
707
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,840
real, for real, we as hell.
It's just I'm true, man, for
708
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,000
real.
Man, I'm sad give you 4 quarters
709
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,280
of hell.
Win or lose, we won't give you 4
710
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:29,880
quarters of hell.
Yep.
711
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,240
Well, Andretti, listen to me.
Please do this, man.
712
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,880
Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go
ahead.
713
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,120
Teach me.
Charlie got on me last year.
714
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,000
I was calling for these dudes
heads.
715
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:43,880
I did.
I was a dummy.
716
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640
I was a dummy.
You was right.
717
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,160
I was wrong.
I'm mad enough to admit it.
718
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,280
You said it and you was right.
I was like, chill out.
719
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,360
Andre did.
Now you should.
720
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,240
I should have said no.
He's right.
721
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,960
I need to pay attention to what
he's saying because you said you
722
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,880
called it.
Yeah, dude, too soft bro, you
723
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,400
called it.
But he too soft, man.
724
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,440
You called it Andre did one 100%
called it brother too.
725
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,680
Soft man.
Andretti, we appreciate you
726
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:14,880
jumping on.
We're going to have to move on
727
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,960
to the next person.
But shoot.
728
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,720
Me, the lead man.
Listen to us.
729
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,600
Listen to us.
You're I thought you were in
730
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,400
Philly, man.
You're in the 75.
731
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,200
You got to let us know when
you're heading to a game
732
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,040
because, like, somebody might be
there.
733
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,880
So let us know when you head up,
OK?
734
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,680
All right, All right, man, Take
care.
735
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,480
Appreciate you jumping on this.
Yes, Sir.
736
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,440
Go birds.
Go birds.
737
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,720
Hi Andretti.
Andretti entertaining as ever.
738
00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:46,760
Now we got VB Hokey up in here.
VB Hokey speak of peace.
739
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,520
Good evening, gentlemen.
Did you guys hear a prize press
740
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,120
conference today where he was
talking up ODU like they were
741
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,320
Ohio State?
I think he that's a alluding to
742
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,680
ODU next week.
He is.
743
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,560
He is worried.
I mean, why not?
744
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,240
You see what the quarterback did
from a rushing standpoint, like
745
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:04,880
they're running the ball with
that quarterback.
746
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,600
We saw what Diego Pavia did to
us in the second-half there, I
747
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,040
mean.
There's definitely some
748
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,800
concerns.
So it it's just, it's weird
749
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,360
seeing that type of posture from
the head coach, especially
750
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,720
coming off that kind of loss
from Vandy.
751
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,600
Yeah, and then, you know, in
true Virginia Tech fashion, they
752
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,560
just really couldn't have picked
the better time to suck with all
753
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,080
this conference realignment
stuff going on, Man, My, my fear
754
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,800
that it just gives me
nightmares.
755
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,880
We're going to end up sucking
like a Big 12.
756
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,320
You know, because the ACC is.
Going to go down a toilet bowl
757
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,200
when Miami and you will first
UNC is going to be the first one
758
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,760
out.
So that's just going to be like
759
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,920
the death flow.
The people on Tobacco Rd. are
760
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,960
just going to lose their tips.
And you know, obviously Florida
761
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,800
State and Clemson are gone.
It's just a matter of time.
762
00:40:54,800 --> 00:41:00,360
So yeah, is it?
True, we had an invite to go to
763
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,680
the SEC like 12 years ago.
It was under, it was not under
764
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,960
Whit's watch.
It was under Jim Weaver's watch.
765
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,760
It was going to be us in Texas
A&M, not in Missouri.
766
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,280
It was going to be us in Texas
A&M.
767
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:18,000
And at that point in time, all
things being equal, they were
768
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,160
pretty much on the same footing
as far as the ACC and the SEC
769
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,160
went back then.
I believe it was going to be A&M
770
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,640
somebody Shelton, you might you
might have something on that.
771
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,280
But yeah, that was a possibility
in 2012.
772
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:36,120
So that was that was Jim Weaver.
Jim, there's a lot of people
773
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,760
that could have been his.
Swan song there on his way out,
774
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,760
but.
It could have been it could have
775
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,840
been so absolutely.
Well, I mean, they'll the ACC is
776
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,600
what it is.
It, you know, founded by all the
777
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,160
tobacco Rose School and they
consider themselves a basketball
778
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,200
first conference.
So that's a problem.
779
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,520
And you know, the, the schools
from an academic mindset, you
780
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,680
know, the UVA and even, you
know, the Wake Forest and now
781
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,400
you bring in like Stanford and
Cal from an academic standpoint,
782
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,400
they're all aligned.
But at the end of the day, you
783
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,520
know, research don't pay the
bills.
784
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,920
It's the TV media deal and the
ACC is just hosed.
785
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,280
Yeah, and the the new, you know,
Nike contract extension didn't
786
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,120
do us any favors on that point.
So I'm sure somebody's going to
787
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,880
talk about that a little bit
more here shortly.
788
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:35,120
But we we've definitely put
ourselves behind the 8 ball by
789
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:39,520
not adapting fast enough, by
still still being a mom and pop
790
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,040
operation for way too long.
But at the same time, we are
791
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,120
still funded and we still have
enough talent on this roster
792
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,080
where we should be able to go
out there and handle a
793
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,800
Vanderbilt.
We should be able to go out
794
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,400
there and handle a lot of these
teams that we've been
795
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,080
consistently losing to like
Rutgers 2 years in a row and
796
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,400
stuff like that.
So at the end of the day, if
797
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,520
you're not winning the games,
you should win regardless.
798
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,680
It's kind of hard to make a
justification to give you all
799
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,960
this extra money because what
are you going to do with it?
800
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,840
Well that's always been my
problem with Virginia Tech.
801
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,240
Even in the years were good.
We end up losing as soon as we
802
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,480
shouldn't.
I mean, nobody says we have to
803
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,560
go 12 an O every year, but damn,
you should go nine and three at
804
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,040
work.
You could go 8 and four.
805
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,240
I mean those 4 losses could be
their teams that.
806
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,840
Have more money than we do.
Have more talent than we do.
807
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,000
We should never have lost to an.
ODU.
808
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,760
And we should.
Never have lost to Vanderbilt
809
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,880
and God knows we should have
never lost to Rutgers.
810
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,880
You have to beat the team you're
supposed to be.
811
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,320
That's that's really it.
At the end of the day, if you
812
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,040
can't do that, you are crashed.
You're trash.
813
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,960
And it is a reason Brent Pry is
on the way out of the door
814
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,080
because you take a look at all
the losses.
815
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,640
You know, VB Hokey, you say it
all those games, Purdue,
816
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,920
Rutgers, even the ODU the first
year, the Liberty.
817
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,480
Well, I go back to Fuente here
because believe it or not, try
818
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,520
actually beat liberty.
I'll go to the source of you on
819
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,160
episode.
Go back to 2020 when we fucking
820
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,320
lost Liberty and watch me lose
my fucking mind.
821
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,040
But anyway, VB hokey, we
appreciate you jumping on with
822
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,480
us tonight.
Again, y'all stay in the
823
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,360
comments.
If you want to jump in here,
824
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,440
click the link.
We got people waiting and now we
825
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,880
got Gilbert in.
Gilbert, speak your peace.
826
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,120
Well, good evening.
Gentlemen, it's great to be here
827
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,480
with all of you and I wish it
was under better circumstances,
828
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,640
but if I can just I guess part
my thoughts on this, you know,
829
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:39,480
obviously very disappointing
against two SEC teams to me
830
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,240
losing those two games.
Kind of translates to what are
831
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:44,840
we going to be like in the ACC
in our conference schedule.
832
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,240
I mean, we're not going to be
playing ODU and Wofford every
833
00:44:48,240 --> 00:44:51,040
game.
So that is the concern and also
834
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,360
it's just the outcomes of these
games, especially next two.
835
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,960
If we destroy ODU, is that a
good thing or a bad thing?
836
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,160
If we destroy Wofford, if it's a
good thing or a bad thing, it's
837
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,360
also a double edged sword
because if we barely beat ODU
838
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,360
and barely beat Wofford, what is
that message sending to the fan
839
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,880
base and all the boosters and
everyone else around?
840
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,040
So I think it's not just the
fact that it's a performance,
841
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,480
it's also the outcome and how
it.
842
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,480
Looks because I think this is
going to be setting for the.
843
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,760
Future here and if.
We had all these.
844
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,320
Recruits in these last game, I
mean, they just saw a complete
845
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,080
dumpster fire and that's not
going to be very good for our
846
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,000
future.
So then again, I'm hoping that
847
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,760
Brent is not part of our future.
I hope it's someone else.
848
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,880
And you know, it's it's it's
very sad.
849
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,040
It's very concerning.
A lot of these fans deserve
850
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,080
better.
And I know we try not to think.
851
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:45,000
Back about the early 2000s
Hokies, but I mean, at this
852
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,840
point it's just like it's all we
have our to hold on to
853
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:52,600
unfortunately.
Yeah, it's, it's a difficult
854
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,360
time, man.
And and when we look at this
855
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,040
program and kind of where we
fall.
856
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,760
And I think that the one
consistent thread that you
857
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,280
pointed out there is that this
fan base is showing up.
858
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:08,040
This fan base is giving the
support to the program that they
859
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,880
can.
But at some point, they can only
860
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,200
do so much and still keep
receiving this mediocre product
861
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,760
year in and year out.
There's going to be a tipping
862
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,880
point.
I'm wondering if it's this year.
863
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,400
If it's not this year, it's
definitely going to be in a lame
864
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,840
duck year.
If, if Brent Pride gets any sort
865
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:30,400
of reprieve beyond 2025, it's
going to get really ugly and
866
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,920
it's going to get ugly before it
gets better.
867
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,920
And, and, and I'm hoping that it
does get better.
868
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,560
But at this point, this is as
low as I felt about the program
869
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,240
because even at the end of the
Justin Fuente era, there was
870
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:43,200
still hope that the next guy can
get it done.
871
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:44,680
But right now, we're in the
doldrums.
872
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,520
We're in the thick of the shit.
And it it seems like there's not
873
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,800
going to really be another side
of that being able to come out
874
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,680
on the other side for at least a
good while.
875
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,920
Yeah, absolutely.
And you know, we just changed
876
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,000
coordinator, so I'm hoping that
Brent doesn't use the excuse
877
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,560
like, well, I just brought in a
new staff.
878
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,080
They have to implement their
system.
879
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,720
And that thus gives him more
time to be the guy in command
880
00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:09,760
chair.
But I think at this point we've
881
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,280
seen that the results are just
not been any good.
882
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,440
So I think.
My hope is, is that they get rid
883
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,160
of WIT first.
That kind of puts Brent in a try
884
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,080
it out period with this new AD.
And if this AD hopefully runs a
885
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,280
very short leash on him, then he
can axe him and bring someone
886
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,320
else in.
If they do bring take Brent out.
887
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,440
I mean, to me it kind of is
logic that they put in Monty
888
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,040
from OC to head coaches because
he's got that experience in
889
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,800
Tulsa.
So other than that, I mean, I'm
890
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,800
open to anyone else at this
point to come in and step in and
891
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,720
be the coach.
I, I saw something interesting
892
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:47,200
and it's been brought up a
couple times by some other folks
893
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:53,120
like people saying go ahead and
get rid of wit and get rid of
894
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:55,480
pride.
Make JC your interim and and
895
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,520
ride that out through 2026 and.
I don't like that.
896
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,680
I completely disagree with that.
I'm not.
897
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,800
I've just put it out there
because I've seen it.
898
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,440
I'm just throwing, throwing
ideas out there, seeing what you
899
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,960
stick.
I mean, Curtis obviously doesn't
900
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,000
like it.
Other people might feel
901
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:14,600
differently about it, but it's
basically the Brent Key Georgia
902
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,840
Tech model where you get your AD
in for a year and then you let
903
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:22,160
them decide what the hire is and
whether that hire is the interim
904
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,000
or whether that hire is someone
that's more qualified, that's
905
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,560
done it before that that brings
that experience that you're
906
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:31,280
looking for.
You at least get a steady hand
907
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,520
at the wheel between now and
then versus kind of what we're
908
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,360
dealing with right now, which
is, you know, a, a very, very
909
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,120
much of A lame duck situation.
It feels like.
910
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:44,440
I mean, we, we're in A at a
point where I, I don't know if,
911
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,200
if, if this is going to be, you
know what, this recruiting
912
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:48,960
class, it's not a great class
already.
913
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,240
And and and I'm wondering if the
wheels start falling off of it
914
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,200
depending on how the rest of the
season goes.
915
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,800
I think all that's going to be
on who we bring in and what
916
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,640
happens because I think
something will happen over the
917
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,760
next few weeks because it kind
of has to.
918
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,600
OK.
Well, again, like I said, we, we
919
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,520
all know there's people with a
lot of money out there that
920
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,040
invest in the program.
Like you said, Brian, if they
921
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,840
say you can't have it this year,
that's when shit usually gets
922
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,880
done.
Gilbert, we appreciate you
923
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,200
joining us tonight, man.
Giving up their packing on it.
924
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,320
Thank you.
Come back, throw your stuff in
925
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,400
the chat 'cause you have a
couple great opinions there man.
926
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,440
Yeah, definitely.
And Andrew, recruits aren't
927
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,600
cancelling OVS.
We cancelled our OV on a recruit
928
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,840
for whatever reason.
That is what was said.
929
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,760
The recruit said that he didn't
cancel Virginia Tech Council.
930
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,920
So what's going on?
There was an attempt.
931
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,680
To reschedule another week.
I don't know if that ends up
932
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,200
happening, what it what ends up
happening, but the the reason
933
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:52,840
he's not coming is not because
of him.
934
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,120
Right, so that is on us.
On them.
935
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,320
It ain't us.
I ain't with them.
936
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:00,800
I'm on my own.
I ain't with them.
937
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,160
Is this is?
This Jay.
938
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,800
Smack, Jay Smack.
How's it going?
939
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,200
What's up?
Can y'all hear me?
940
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,040
We can't.
I don't have much.
941
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:14,080
Coherent to say, but what is
going on with drones dude?
942
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,840
I mean this dude is having some
sort of mental thing man.
943
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:24,120
It is just not looking good.
It's called getting your.
944
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,360
It's called getting your ass
beating that back for you.
945
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:31,720
I mean, I don't know what point
we go to pop Watts that I mean I
946
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:35,480
was at the Duke game last year.
I mean, I don't know how good of
947
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,920
a option that is, but you know,
it is not looking good there.
948
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,000
You got to try to, in my
opinion, you got to try to do
949
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,480
some things by committee right
now because nobody's standing
950
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:51,880
out and getting the job done.
Whether you, I don't want to
951
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,200
say, you know, running A2
quarterback system, I don't
952
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,360
know.
But what we're doing and
953
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,400
working.
But I can say they unleash the
954
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,680
hounds on the last two games.
Both teams have figured out
955
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,520
we're going to make you throw
the ball and beat us and it's
956
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,200
not happening.
They are.
957
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,520
We can't block the people that
they're sending and they're
958
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,000
hitting our quarterback and our
quarterbacks getting happy feet.
959
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,640
So I would like them to do
something else because again,
960
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:25,640
drones is is I'm I'm high on,
excuse me, I'm high on him as a
961
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,320
kid, as a young man.
He's a he's a, he's a great
962
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,560
young man.
But when it comes down to the
963
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,120
same thing we're talking about
with the coach, you got to be a
964
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,000
winner and you got to treat this
like a job because these young
965
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,800
men are getting paid to do a
job.
966
00:51:39,240 --> 00:51:42,200
You're not getting the job done.
Try somebody else.
967
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,600
Why are we going to keep rolling
somebody out who ain't getting
968
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,520
the job done?
So let's see what somebody else
969
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,320
can do and see if they can do it
better because that's what a
970
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,880
coach is going to do.
If I'm putting a team on the
971
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,280
field and then these people
aren't doing the job, I would
972
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,960
have just I would have just
cleared the sidelines out.
973
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,880
But you got what you had going
on in that game.
974
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,760
I would have said you're a
freshman, hey, go get in.
975
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,240
I need I need to seeking you
cover them.
976
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,920
We had cornerbacks running right
with the wide receivers looking
977
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,280
to the sideline.
What looking at we looking at we
978
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,760
looking at Turkey legs, We
looking at ass in the stains.
979
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,520
I don't know what we was looking
at 'cause we wasn't turning
980
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,680
looking for the ball.
I'm just saying.
981
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,960
Yeah.
Put somebody else in.
982
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,720
With with drones, it's like he's
got I feel like he's got a
983
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:30,600
really high ceiling, but he's
got a really low floor.
984
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,040
And I feel like if you look at,
you know, QB 2, I don't really
985
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,520
know much about QB three.
I think it's Garrett Randgo.
986
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,200
I don't, you know, they might
not as have as high of a
987
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,800
ceiling, but is their floor is
low Because if it's not, I feel
988
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,920
like you got to look at them and
I don't really want to do the
989
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:50,160
quarterback by committee thing
that we did under Fuente because
990
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,840
that just sucked.
I mean, you want to have a
991
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,560
quarterback as a leader, you
want to have somebody the guys
992
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,520
look to and I feel like Drones
just does not, does not have
993
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,960
that swagger right now.
It's funny because like when he
994
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,560
plays confident, he's as good as
you could find and then when he
995
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:10,600
doesn't it, it's it's very, very
unsteady play like you said,
996
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:14,960
high, high floor, low ceiling.
And the consistency factor is
997
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,400
the issue.
You know his play if if he was
998
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,200
even with the high floor, low
ceiling, if you're staying
999
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,000
around that even keel, more
often than not, you're at least
1000
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,000
going to probably put up a good
good amount of wins.
1001
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,400
I think his problem is that the
yo-yo factor is is very extreme.
1002
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,360
Even in the middle of games
where you know you have a first
1003
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:39,760
half where he plays fairly clean
and then the complete complete
1004
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,880
opposite in the second-half.
Just couldn't do anything,
1005
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,320
wasn't playing confident, wasn't
making good reads, whether in
1006
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,960
the run game or in the pass
game.
1007
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,040
I mean, the wheels just fell off
the wagon.
1008
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,560
Yeah, I mean, and it's he
clearly doesn't have a good
1009
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:59,640
front, you know, protecting him
and I that you can, I mean,
1010
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,320
that's you can't use that as an
excuse for everything.
1011
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,640
But, you know, I think that's
going to be even worse this
1012
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,360
coming week with the injuries
from the Vanderbilt game, so.
1013
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,880
I mean, Shandura Sanders didn't
have a good, good line in front
1014
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,080
of him and he did OK.
Right.
1015
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,440
So at the end of the day, that
that's that can only be so much
1016
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:20,960
of an excuse.
At some point you got to go out
1017
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:22,800
there and make plays and do the
right thing with the football.
1018
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,720
Yep.
A. 100%.
1019
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,280
Anybody else want to add
anything before we let Jay Smack
1020
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,000
roll up out of here?
I think we're good, man.
1021
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,200
Jay Smack, appreciate you
joining us tonight, man.
1022
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,680
We got a couple more folks
waiting to speak to that piece
1023
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,080
for a few minutes.
Take care, man.
1024
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:43,600
All right, throw, throw somebody
who's come on the space before.
1025
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:47,680
Hey, what's up?
Maddie B in the house.
1026
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,880
Maddie Blacksburg.
Good evening Blacksburg, I am
1027
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:57,400
back in the building on my
favorite tech podcast, Bouncy
1028
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,760
Corner, so thank you for having
me on.
1029
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:03,640
I don't want to talk about
personnel and shit like that.
1030
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,840
I got to be honest with you, the
Kyron drones, all the stuff,
1031
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,400
this isn't a player problem.
What we have going on is deep
1032
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:14,440
seated in the walls of merriment
and that's what I want to talk
1033
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,840
about.
It seems like the Virginia Tech
1034
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,240
athletic program followed Frank
Beamer to the retirement home
1035
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,800
and the energy has just been
sucked out of it since.
1036
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:34,280
In what world?
In what way is it possible for
1037
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,760
us in this new era of college
football to rejuvenate that when
1038
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:44,000
we know we're down $150 million?
Boys, what can we do?
1039
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:48,800
I would like to, I would like to
hear from the panel on like, I
1040
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,600
mean, we know what the problem
is.
1041
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,240
Let's stop skirting around it
and talk about XS and OS.
1042
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,120
We know what the problem is.
How do we fix it?
1043
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,920
I mean, I, I said it earlier, I
think, you know, you start with
1044
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:02,480
wid Babcock and then you figure
everything else out after that.
1045
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,160
And if we're being honest, if
you want to run it up the Foley
1046
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,160
even further, it might be time
for, to look at Tim Sands as
1047
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,640
well.
Because I, I think, you know,
1048
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,840
you haven't had the, the support
historically with whether it's
1049
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:19,520
in the public or, or behind
closed doors, where athletics
1050
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,200
and football in particular has
been a priority for Sands.
1051
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,880
But at the same time, you got
width that it took how long
1052
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,720
before we finally got that
meeting with the board of
1053
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:32,680
visitors at at some point you've
got to come out there and you
1054
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,760
got to recognize the problem.
It's like he was afraid to say I
1055
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,320
need money because it it looked
like failure.
1056
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,680
But abjectly you ended up at
failure anyway because you
1057
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,280
didn't ask for the money in a
timely enough fashion.
1058
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,760
But at the end of the day, I go
back again, money's not going to
1059
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,360
help us beat Vanderbilt's or
Rutgers.
1060
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,600
Like we should be taking care of
this business regardless.
1061
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,080
Yeah, well, if money won college
football, A&M would win it every
1062
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:59,200
year.
So it's, you know, I'm on that
1063
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,360
camp, too.
I just found it really weird
1064
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,040
some things with Babcock,
especially in that BOV meeting,
1065
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,560
he said some interesting quotes
and phrases.
1066
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,880
He said something like, I've
been crying wolf and now the
1067
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,040
wolf is here.
Well, no, you weren't crying
1068
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,240
wolf at all, actually.
You were pretending like the
1069
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:17,120
wolf didn't exist at all.
You were.
1070
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,040
You were saying the wolf didn't
exist and now it's here.
1071
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,160
We've got the wolf under control
that yeah, that.
1072
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,520
Was a wolf under control?
Yeah, yeah.
1073
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,960
So it's like, you know, but you
didn't.
1074
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,200
And I think so.
There isn't an athletic
1075
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,600
department in the country,
regardless of your group or
1076
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,400
conference or whatever.
There isn't an athletic director
1077
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,520
who isn't asking for more money.
All of them are asking for more.
1078
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,440
Money.
So I just wonder where he sort
1079
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:50,240
of failed on that like, and
maybe I just care so much that
1080
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,520
if I was the athletic director,
I would be on the I would be
1081
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,160
banging the phones every day.
Give me money.
1082
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,960
This is why.
And here's your return on
1083
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,520
investment.
None of that has come from Wit
1084
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,800
Babcock.
He's a terrible salesman.
1085
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,200
He doesn't close deals.
Our Nike contract solves that.
1086
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,120
We don't have a corporate
sponsor on the field.
1087
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,400
Our money gets squandered all
over the place.
1088
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,440
Wit has to go first and you
can't replace him and pry in the
1089
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,800
same year because we don't have
money.
1090
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,880
How do you buy out a coach and
AAD in the same year and then
1091
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,640
have enough money to hire
anybody worth their salt?
1092
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,920
It's like that.
He pushed us so far in the
1093
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,800
corner, we're fucked.
I like, I don't know how else to
1094
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,800
put it.
I'm sorry boys, but I'm I'm a
1095
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:39,760
blunt guy.
I don't know it just.
1096
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,600
Sucks.
Well, the the point with width
1097
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:48,200
is a We've talked about it on
this show numerous times and
1098
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:52,400
when he first got here, football
was cruising right Tally
1099
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,360
Sieglich.
Cruising.
1100
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,680
Record wise cruising.
Record wise.
1101
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,960
When did he get here?
He got here in 2014, 2014.
1102
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:05,920
Frank was still the head coach,
still cruising, just won eight
1103
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,120
games, looking OK.
There was a lot of other shit
1104
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:12,800
that got fixed.
But Brian, you said it long time
1105
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,960
ago, you can't let the cash cow
starve.
1106
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,160
And that's what happened,
roughly from 2014 until 2021.
1107
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,840
Wit let the cash cow starve.
It started, it started in 2010
1108
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,640
because we, we didn't adapt from
a structure standpoint to, to
1109
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,880
how fundraising is and how
recruiting is in, in, in modern
1110
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,400
college football.
That started in 2010, that
1111
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:40,600
started in 2010, it did 2010.
And so you're already behind
1112
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,640
when wit takes over.
And then you pull money away
1113
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,520
from this cash cow.
You pull money away from this
1114
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,160
cash cow and it starts, it
starts to bleed out.
1115
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,760
Yep.
So you get to triage I.
1116
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,120
Don't know, man.
Y'all be here, man.
1117
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,520
Yeah, Y'all be educating me on
stuff because like I'm just, I'm
1118
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,640
country and old and I'm down
here in Alabama.
1119
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,000
I'm older than.
You and nobody.
1120
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,800
The person answering right now.
He talks about this stuff like,
1121
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,560
I'm glad that Virginia Tech
people are so like intelligent
1122
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,720
and y'all show me some things
that I didn't know.
1123
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,840
But in Alabama and Auburn or
Tennessee, Mississippi State or
1124
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,040
even Florida, I don't hear
nobody.
1125
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,840
Like maybe I'm a casual football
fan.
1126
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,760
Nobody talks about who they are.
I don't never hear that.
1127
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,760
I just be like this motherfucker
right here don't look like he
1128
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:33,120
coaching good.
We need to get him.
1129
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,520
About it, well, it happened, it
happens.
1130
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:40,080
It's a lot more niche right now
for us because we're a
1131
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,640
consolidated fan base.
A lot of others, like for
1132
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,400
example, I I'm on Twitter Spaces
a lot.
1133
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,880
So like Miami, for example, run
four Twitter Spaces a day, they
1134
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,480
go all day.
And so the the fan base is a lot
1135
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,880
more spread out than it is at
Virginia Tech.
1136
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,000
So we're very honed in on the
problems that are happening.
1137
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:02,520
And it's it's.
It's becoming hard to ignore and
1138
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,000
it's it's just one of those
things where I think a lot of
1139
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,080
us, you know, and I mentioned
this in the last time that I was
1140
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:09,880
on with you guys, a particular
word.
1141
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,400
There's a candy ass Ness around
the program.
1142
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:18,240
It's it's it's candy ass.
We've we've become a novelty, a
1143
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,680
souvenir.
It's like, oh, Enter Sandman
1144
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:23,640
Pop.
And that's it.
1145
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,560
We're just like that.
It's just a souvenir out of the
1146
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,960
Disney gift shop.
We're not a serious football
1147
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,080
program and we haven't acted
like one for some time.
1148
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,120
And I think that's because,
again, we followed Beamer to the
1149
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:39,160
retirement home I.
Love that analogy.
1150
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,240
I love that analogy, Matty B,
because as we, we got some more
1151
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:43,680
folks waiting in the room over
there.
1152
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,080
But you, you jumped on last
December with us.
1153
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,720
We had some great combos.
We had some great drinks that
1154
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,560
night.
But I think that is a good
1155
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,280
point.
And I think Tally spoke it
1156
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:54,320
earlier and I think maybe that's
where a lot of people are
1157
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,400
feeling right now is we love
Frank.
1158
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:59,800
We we all love Frank.
Don't ever get it wrong because
1159
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,720
Frank is somebody said he's one
of one and he did things with
1160
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:06,360
this program that had never been
done before that we want to see
1161
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:07,920
again but may never be done
again.
1162
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:12,400
But we we keep saying it it it
might be time to completely cut
1163
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,680
it off.
You know, his numbers hang up.
1164
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,840
His number will hang up forever,
but get rid of the 25.
1165
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,120
Get rid of that stuff.
Let's I'm not saying burn it
1166
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:26,800
down, but as anyone who's ever
potentially purchased a house
1167
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,800
and maybe it was a shitty house,
it's time to go all the way down
1168
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,040
to the studs.
The bones are bad.
1169
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,800
Let's let's start with the
foundation.
1170
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,960
And I appreciate.
I appreciate you guys for having
1171
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,240
me on.
Love you guys.
1172
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:41,840
You're my favorite best podcast
out there.
1173
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:43,760
Bounty Corner.
Appreciate it.
1174
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:49,400
We'll see you around, bud.
All right, let's pull James on.
1175
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,200
James, can you hear us?
I can.
1176
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,600
Can y'all hear me?
Yeah, we got you.
1177
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,240
We got you.
By the way, this is another
1178
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,720
Halifax's finest.
On with us tonight.
1179
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,520
I think you got the wrong James
this game.
1180
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:10,360
Well, go ahead James.
Well, I just wanted to say that
1181
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:19,200
I was in Blacksburg this past
weekend at the game and the Q
1182
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:24,000
word has been thrown around a
lot about the players and how
1183
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:30,080
they played in the second-half.
But from my perspective and with
1184
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:34,800
the situation of injuries and
how the other team was playing,
1185
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,240
I feel like the coaches quit on
the players.
1186
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:43,480
Like they just did not give them
the opportunity, give them the
1187
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:48,320
best opportunity to win that
game when they were still up by
1188
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,920
three points.
Like you got to run some sort of
1189
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:57,880
screen or something to stop them
from blitzing every damn play.
1190
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:03,080
And people want to talk about
money and talent.
1191
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:11,080
It doesn't take that much talent
to win some of the games or have
1192
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,680
some of the results we've had
and it's just mind boggling.
1193
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,360
So.
Yeah.
1194
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:19,360
That I think that's kind of
where we've landed as well.
1195
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,240
I know we've said it a couple
times tonight.
1196
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,480
We're we're putting a bad
product out there and putting a
1197
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:29,280
product out there that's worse
than the talent that we've
1198
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:33,960
accumulated on this roster.
And I think that's that's the
1199
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,560
problem and that speaks to
coaching.
1200
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:40,320
That speaks to coaching, not
only preparing the players,
1201
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,800
right, but also what you're
doing in the game.
1202
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:44,680
Because there's two parts of
that.
1203
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,040
You got to get the players
prepared.
1204
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,000
That's where you see things like
execution issues.
1205
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:54,400
That's where you see things like
just not being ready to adapt
1206
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,800
and execute in a consistent
fashion as a player.
1207
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,000
But coach has got to get you
ready for that.
1208
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,000
But also you still got a coach
in the moment and and we saw in
1209
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,360
this game when your offensive
line went down, you didn't make
1210
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:12,000
any sort of adjustment to get
the ball into your receivers
1211
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,760
hands quicker because they were
coming after Kyron.
1212
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,160
The ball wasn't coming out of
his hands fast enough.
1213
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,360
There was problems in
protections, there was problems
1214
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,440
really across the board and the
coordinator didn't do anything
1215
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,080
to mitigate any of those
throughout that whole game in
1216
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,920
the second-half.
And it's frustrating to watch
1217
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,360
because as you said there there
was a disservice.
1218
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,600
It's certainly I think was a
disservice in both directions
1219
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,480
there.
I think there was, I think there
1220
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,760
was some degree of quit, but I
think like you said, I think
1221
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,840
the, the the coaches kind of
threw up the surrender cobra
1222
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,440
first.
You know when we look about not
1223
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,800
going forward on that 4th and
short and and some of the other
1224
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,840
posturing that was done early in
the third quarter there.
1225
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:53,280
I think that really fed into
what we saw unfolded the fourth
1226
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,480
quarter, which was just the
absolute beat down that put the
1227
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,840
game away.
And I think the signs of prized
1228
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,760
coaching tenure being, you know,
in the dumps were there pretty
1229
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:09,120
early, like, in terms of just
coaching affecting the game.
1230
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:13,560
Like, it does not take that much
talent to snap a ball properly
1231
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,640
for a kick, a fuel kick against
ODU.
1232
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,920
It is it does not take that much
talent to prevent a running back
1233
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,880
at Pitt from running like over
300 yards against your team.
1234
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:29,880
So it doesn't take that much
talent to beat Marshall.
1235
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:36,200
Like it's just these things that
it's it's been there and we
1236
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,040
wanted to be optimistic and
believe.
1237
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:45,160
But being there on Saturday at
that game, I've never seen a
1238
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:49,120
stadium get so quiet and empty
so fast.
1239
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,560
It's just embarrassing.
And The thing is, James, you
1240
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,400
clearly have been to games.
It's usually not that way.
1241
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:00,000
There's been games where Tech's
down 14 points with six minutes
1242
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,880
left and it's still roaring
because there's still belief.
1243
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,960
And I think what happened, and
it's probably, and I think it's
1244
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,280
happened to the majority of the
fan base.
1245
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,320
Sounds like you.
We know it's us.
1246
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,680
The belief is now gone.
Like the belief's gone.
1247
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,000
Like he is not going to get us
where we need to go.
1248
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:22,920
And it's time to cut bait.
It's time to cut with wit.
1249
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,560
It's time to basically start a
new.
1250
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,240
All right, Well, that's about
all my piece there.
1251
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,480
But I enjoy listening to you
guys.
1252
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,040
I found you all last year and
you guys are a fun pod for
1253
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,640
listen too.
Appreciate it.
1254
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,560
Appreciate it, James man.
Appreciate it.
1255
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,400
James coming?
On too appreciate.
1256
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,560
It Shelton, Shelton before we
throw Josh Poltite with us, man,
1257
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,160
James, the the, the James I'm
talking about on here now, we'll
1258
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,800
throw him on a few minutes, jump
and unload on a couple of the
1259
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:53,000
things that you've got.
Well, I mean it would be a few
1260
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,480
minutes, but I guess.
What's your biggest?
1261
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:07,440
I'd say just I don't know, man,
I feel like like people don't
1262
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,720
understand like how hard it is
to be this bad in close games
1263
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,560
like prize ban and I know like,
you know, the the last two games
1264
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,120
haven't been close.
Like that's not necessarily
1265
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,479
like, you know, directly
relevant to, to the to the
1266
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,040
current discourse, but like
it's, it's simple.
1267
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,399
It's emblematic of like larger,
you know, structural issues,
1268
01:08:23,399 --> 01:08:26,160
like just to complete and utter
lack of attention to detail.
1269
01:08:26,359 --> 01:08:28,240
I mean, Chris Coleman was
saying, you know, on the boards
1270
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,279
of the day, like this is a staff
that will show up like an hour
1271
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:34,240
late to the media interviews
because they they start practice
1272
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,000
an hour late.
Like you can't even be on time
1273
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,439
for your own schedule.
Like, what are you even doing,
1274
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,560
man?
I, I just, I just, I don't even
1275
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,080
understand the operation that's
going on here.
1276
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,000
I think it kind of reflects
itself in the field in the close
1277
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:45,359
game records.
Yeah, no, that's real.
1278
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:51,160
That's real.
And The thing is too, like if,
1279
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:55,200
if we play anybody who punches,
like if, if things are on script
1280
01:08:55,200 --> 01:09:00,240
and things are going good, we've
seen prize come, he can keep the
1281
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,120
team going.
But if we play anybody who
1282
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:07,279
punches and we take a hit, he he
done.
1283
01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:11,000
He should be fans.
He done.
1284
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,960
And it's like you can only do
that so many times before people
1285
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,680
say, OK, that's you.
It ain't no turn the corner no
1286
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:18,800
more.
That's who he is.
1287
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:20,960
That's the team that he's
created.
1288
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,439
That's the culture that he's
created.
1289
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,840
Sheldon just threw some new
stuff at me that I didn't even
1290
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,600
know about.
If you ain't getting the stuff
1291
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,359
on time, if you're going out
partying and drinking and
1292
01:09:32,359 --> 01:09:35,920
driving and then your players
doing it, like, come on, man.
1293
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,319
That's why another reason why I
don't want to get into all that
1294
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:40,359
today.
But when people was like, oh, he
1295
01:09:40,359 --> 01:09:42,640
needs to be this and he's
supposed to be raising me.
1296
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:47,040
And you don't start developing
young men on the field.
1297
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,600
They see it in you.
It's more to it than that.
1298
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,960
So we got a new hey, we got we
got the best caller on on here
1299
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,600
now.
What's little man name?
1300
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,640
Little man's name is Sutton.
Sudden don't let Sudden don't
1301
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,640
let Sudden watch Virginia Tech.
He'll throw up.
1302
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,520
I I failed.
We watched last week on Sunday
1303
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:07,880
and then we watched on Saturday.
But.
1304
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,320
Now I feel the other.
Thing and then it's even it's
1305
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,400
harder for me because like I
live in Texas, so like I'm
1306
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:19,880
seeing Texas Tech A&M throw the
bag to get where we need to be
1307
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,680
in college football.
And it's just like Virginia
1308
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,800
Tech's not doing it because of
wit really.
1309
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,520
And like y'all were saying
earlier, like I tuned into the
1310
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:34,960
TSL like recap of the game today
and like which track record of
1311
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,040
hiring hiring football coaches?
This man's basically O for
1312
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,880
three.
The coach that he hired at
1313
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,360
Cincinnati was a terrible
football coach and apparently
1314
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,480
now he's AUS senator.
To like.
1315
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,480
Tommy.
Tommy, yeah, he is a senator for
1316
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,480
Jonathan Talley.
Yeah, he's more.
1317
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:56,120
Than two like I know we're down
bad as a fan base.
1318
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:58,840
Like because I tune into y'all
practically every week whenever
1319
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:03,480
y'all stream or whatever.
Tally always wearing hoagie
1320
01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:06,280
gear.
This man's ain't got nothing on
1321
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,560
this time.
And I'm and I'm wearing brave
1322
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:09,920
stuff.
So that's even worse than the
1323
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:11,840
Hokies right now.
So, you know, I'm that's that's.
1324
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:14,720
That's code misery right now.
Man, yeah, 'cause then.
1325
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,880
Like I'm wearing brave stuff.
I didn't want to put nothing
1326
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,560
orange on nothing maroon.
No, I get it.
1327
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:22,560
No, we don't.
Yeah, man.
1328
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,760
Yeah, like it's just hard.
Like I've always watched the
1329
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,440
Hokie game through, but except
like this weekend, the start of
1330
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:32,680
the fourth quarter, like I
started watching the OU Michigan
1331
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:34,760
game like that just had my full
attention.
1332
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,200
So like, it's like.
It ain't even fun.
1333
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,360
It ain't Josh.
Am I wrong?
1334
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,920
It's not even fun when you're
watching some games now because
1335
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,280
there's no, it don't even look
like football, Like we just look
1336
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:48,240
like we out there going through
the motions.
1337
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,680
Like people literally it's like
don't even care.
1338
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,600
It's like they pay more
attention to pry writing on his
1339
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:58,360
notepad with the red pen.
For all of our fuck ups really
1340
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,600
that aren't going to get fixed.
Right.
1341
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,960
Again, why has that not been
passed on to an intern or
1342
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,000
somebody else on the sideline?
Like when you you stay engaged
1343
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:08,920
in the game, I don't need you
making the notes.
1344
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:11,760
Exactly.
Like, pass that to the person
1345
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,520
who's supposed to help you with
clock management so you're aware
1346
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,560
of what's going on.
I told them at the beginning of
1347
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,120
the season, the High Shelton,
they didn't do it.
1348
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,280
That's what's wrong.
There you go.
1349
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,840
Yeah, right, Shelton.
Shelton would have been on that
1350
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,680
all.
Right, Josh, I'm gonna ask you
1351
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,040
real quick, cuz we asked
Andretti earlier, cuz he's up.
1352
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,600
He, he grew up in the Philly
area.
1353
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,880
Are you originally from Texas?
So originally I was born in
1354
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,120
Florida cuz my mom was active
duty Air Force.
1355
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:40,400
OK, so I moved around a lot and
like my story for Virginia Tech
1356
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:41,920
is like she was stationed at
Langley.
1357
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:46,320
So like I turned the TI turned
the TV on one day, Marcus
1358
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:49,480
Victoria and Vt was dog walking
somebody back in the day.
1359
01:12:49,480 --> 01:12:52,160
And I was just like, all right,
I'm hooked.
1360
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,840
So like I've been through the
tie rod, the Logan, the Gerard,
1361
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:03,320
the Fuente, the Fuente era.
So like, yeah, it's just hard
1362
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:08,200
seeing some of these other like
Texas schools that I see on a
1363
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:12,320
weekend basis really just like
being able to pay for all this
1364
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:17,000
top and talent that like we'd
never be able to afford because
1365
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:21,520
nobody backs the money for it.
But this is the thing too.
1366
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,040
So I'm kind of in the same
situation as Josh, but when you
1367
01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,520
talk about, he's talking about
the schools in Texas, right?
1368
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,840
You got Baylor, Texas Tech,
Texas.
1369
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,240
SMU.
SMU.
1370
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,200
Then you start to go into the
Oklahoma's Oklahoma State.
1371
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:38,920
I've been.
Throwing some money this year
1372
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:40,520
in.
Particular this is the thing
1373
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:45,040
though, all of those schools,
like out of those schools, it
1374
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:48,120
may be like one school that
really has a chance to win at
1375
01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:49,440
all.
You know what I'm saying?
1376
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:53,040
Like they're throwing money and
stuff, but it's not like they're
1377
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,200
they're this is what we got to
do to win.
1378
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:59,080
Like Texas just kind of got
back, you know what I'm saying?
1379
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,680
Everybody else is just normal
teams.
1380
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,040
The return on investment is
still not good.
1381
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,240
We could basically normal team.
We could be a normal team with
1382
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,360
normal money.
Like I ain't saying that I'm OK
1383
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,600
with winning eight games a year,
but we should have been on one
1384
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:18,720
some 8 had some 8 game seasons.
We have what we what we have.
1385
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,200
Like.
I agree to get to the next
1386
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:26,080
level, sure, but the money is
money is the problem in the long
1387
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:30,120
term scheme of things.
But the problem right now that
1388
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,560
we seen on that field last week
and what we need is we don't
1389
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,640
have a head coach that knows
what the fuck he is doing.
1390
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:42,880
Britton James Pry does not know
what the fuck he is doing.
1391
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,520
You know he needs some help.
I don't care what he do.
1392
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:48,400
Take it $4 million.
Go to the Bahamas.
1393
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,640
Look at some titties.
We need you to leave.
1394
01:14:51,480 --> 01:14:53,400
We need you to go.
We need you out.
1395
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:59,000
Listen, Josh Button, I'm sorry.
Suddenly saw it.
1396
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,960
Well, Josh, listen, man,
appreciate you jumping.
1397
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,800
Sudden appreciate you jumping.
He's just like Dad.
1398
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,080
I just, I just wanted to get
some airtime tonight, man.
1399
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:07,120
You got to get the airtime.
Man.
1400
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,000
You got to get the airtime.
And, and thanks for sharing your
1401
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,960
story because like when you see
people from Texas and a guy who
1402
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,920
grew up in Philly and it's like,
that's how I became a tech fan.
1403
01:15:16,480 --> 01:15:19,240
I turned on the TV and there was
this unbelievable athlete
1404
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,040
running down the field.
We appreciate it, man.
1405
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,840
So keep listening and we'll see
you around.
1406
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,680
Of course, sounds good.
Sutton was doing better than
1407
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:33,840
prop with his pad all.
Right.
1408
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,960
I think based based on our time
here, I think James, you're
1409
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:38,400
going to be the last one on
here.
1410
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,960
I'm.
Going I'm going to preface this.
1411
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,960
Everybody on here that's
probably listening knows how far
1412
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,120
me and Curtis goes back.
You go back.
1413
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:50,680
This man on camera, I go back
with probably the farthest than
1414
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,040
than anybody that I know that
I'm still in contact with.
1415
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:56,080
So James Ambrose, everybody.
What's going on, fellas?
1416
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,400
Bloody.
Hey, man, love you guys.
1417
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,800
Love listening to you guys first
and foremost, man.
1418
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,160
See, Curtis, it's been too long
since we've hung out, so we got
1419
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:03,960
to do something soon.
Wait.
1420
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,080
Too long bro.
But yeah, man, like, you know,
1421
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,920
Brian, you know, just most than
anyone, like I've been a die
1422
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,560
hard tech fan forever, right?
Like, you know, you, you
1423
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,400
remember going back in middle
school where, you know, our
1424
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,800
principal was an official for
the Big East, He'd bring those
1425
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,680
programs back.
And like, that's the first thing
1426
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:22,280
you would go to the library to
check out, right?
1427
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,960
Those early, those programs from
the Big East, you saw Ken
1428
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,200
Oxendon on it.
Like, you know, saw all these
1429
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,720
great players on it.
Like one of my fondest memories
1430
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:34,040
as a kid was watching that Sugar
Bowl in 95 with my dad.
1431
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,320
Like I, I remember sitting to
Beverly on the sofa with my dad,
1432
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,760
watch the Circle Bowl and he's
like, I tell you what, if we
1433
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,680
beat Texas, we're going to go
light some fireworks.
1434
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,120
I was like, heck, yeah, let's go
Hokies.
1435
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,960
So, so for me, like, you know,
and now that I have a son who,
1436
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,760
who's 9 and like, I'm trying to
get him like he, he loves
1437
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,640
sports.
So no, no trying, but trying to
1438
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,360
like, get him to love sports.
Like I love sports.
1439
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:59,160
Love A-Team.
Like we love A-Team, right?
1440
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,360
Like, we grew up with the team.
We love this team.
1441
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,400
We're passionate about this team
and to like, watch them lay eggs
1442
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,120
like this time and time again.
And and Grant, like now, he's
1443
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,400
had one great experience.
We went to Boston College last
1444
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,680
year and with the exception of
the third quarter, it's a great
1445
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,800
game.
And Brian, you know, I get to
1446
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,240
talk to you all the time when I,
you know, through text messages
1447
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:19,720
most often, like during the
games.
1448
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:24,480
But like, you know, one thing
for me is like, it sucks that,
1449
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,320
you know, my experience as a
young kid watching Virginia Tech
1450
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:32,520
football was excellent.
Like you had some losses, like,
1451
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,080
and, and, you know, there were
always times when, like, you
1452
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,520
knew, we didn't have the best
players, we didn't have the best
1453
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,720
talent, but we had a coach who
gave a damn.
1454
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,880
And I think that's the issue.
Like, we had a coach who care
1455
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:45,720
like Frank Beamer at the time,
and like, he took a program that
1456
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,120
was in the dirt and he turned
into something special.
1457
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,000
He turned into something great
for everybody.
1458
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,360
And now, like, we got to live
that experience.
1459
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:57,320
We got to watch the sugar bowls.
We got to, you know, some of my
1460
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,680
best experiences, you know, in
college especially.
1461
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:02,560
What's that I?
Remember with your brother.
1462
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,040
Yeah, like I mean your.
Brother, man up and.
1463
01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,000
Yeah, yeah, my brother went
there like he was there during
1464
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,120
the Victoria era, the national
title game, like, and that's
1465
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:12,880
different.
Like you go and you lose to a
1466
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,160
Florida State, right.
But of course they had Peter
1467
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,960
work, they had Chris Winky, they
had all these other studs on the
1468
01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:22,400
team and you're up there with
Michael Vick and Andre Davis.
1469
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,600
So you know, you lose against
the team with great talent.
1470
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,840
And like I've gone to so many
games, like some of my best
1471
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:32,480
memories, you know, like I said,
through college, like or even
1472
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:36,760
post college was like, you know,
you know, God rest his soul,
1473
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,280
Brian, you know, Brian Wilkerson
and we went to that Miami game.
1474
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:42,000
We got to store in the field.
Man, that's that's remarkable.
1475
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,960
And I'm saying things like, I
want my son to live this, Like,
1476
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,560
I want my son to experience
this, the Tech Nebraska game
1477
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,160
where, you know, Tyrod Diddy,
Mikey Tyrod did it like I was at
1478
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:54,480
the game, you know, so like,
having to live those experiences
1479
01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:56,760
were great.
And for me as a fan now with
1480
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,520
kids and like trying to, you
know, raise him for this.
1481
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,960
Like, you know, we're watching
the Tech game last Sunday
1482
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:04,120
against South Carolina.
It's like, OK, you know, we put
1483
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:05,680
up a good fight.
You know, it's a good game.
1484
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,840
You know, the two big plays,
cool, you know, defensive,
1485
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,080
tired, I get it.
And then even last week, you
1486
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:14,360
know, we're watching Vanity
first half, OK, we look good.
1487
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:16,920
And then the second-half, you
just come out flat, like, and I
1488
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,120
even Ashe was like, what did he
say at halftime to make a team
1489
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,200
come on and just die?
Like, what do you say to
1490
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,040
somebody?
Like you say, hey, guys, you
1491
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,960
know what?
We're let's go out here.
1492
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,080
We're going to give them a
chance.
1493
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,640
We're going to let them run
right up your butt hole and
1494
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:32,960
you're going to like it.
All right.
1495
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,120
And you know what?
And you know, like, offensively,
1496
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,840
right, Kyron drones was
different the first half.
1497
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:40,520
Like he's out there like he's
shouldering people like he's
1498
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,520
hitting guys.
Yeah, Like, So what?
1499
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:47,160
What if Phil Mcgarn, what did he
say during this time to make
1500
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:48,600
Karen Jones?
Like, hey, you know what?
1501
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,800
Don't go get that extra.
I want you to fall down.
1502
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,040
I want you to slide.
You know, I think that's going
1503
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,080
to be OK.
You just slide.
1504
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,080
And then like, you have a third
in a snail, like you a third in
1505
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,800
a fourth in a snail, right?
Like 4th in 1/2, a blade of
1506
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:02,680
grass.
And you're like, hey, you know
1507
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,520
what?
My defense just got trucked.
1508
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,920
They just took the ball, you
know, 75 yards for a touchdown.
1509
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:09,440
I'm not going to go with this
like.
1510
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,920
Brian, like you and I played
office in line together.
1511
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,720
What would have had like if we
had that like half an inch to
1512
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,960
get what happens?
Like even if you need to call a
1513
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:19,840
time out, that coach is going to
get your office on and say, hey,
1514
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:21,440
I don't care what you have to
do.
1515
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:23,040
You're getting that freaking
half a yard.
1516
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,480
You're getting that half an
inch, whatever it is, right?
1517
01:20:25,480 --> 01:20:27,720
Like where is that?
There's no buyer, There's no
1518
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,560
passion.
But like Tally said a little
1519
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:30,920
while ago, the guy was on the
freaking clip.
1520
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:33,040
Like what's he writing down?
We suck again.
1521
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:34,680
We suck again.
I suck as a coach.
1522
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:37,120
Like, I don't know.
So I don't know.
1523
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,560
For me, it's very frustrating
watching this program that I
1524
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:45,000
love, that I'm passionate about
just go in the total.
1525
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:49,560
Just freaking the abyss, man.
Like you can't even make fun of
1526
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,960
UBA anymore.
Like that's how bad we are now
1527
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:54,320
at.
Some point, like we're at a
1528
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:57,440
point now where we can't trash
on UVA because we're going out
1529
01:20:57,440 --> 01:21:00,560
there and laying eggs every week
and it's like if the only thing
1530
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,640
that we can talk about is an
entrance and beating UVA every
1531
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,600
year, that's as bad as it gets.
By.
1532
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:13,000
The way James, I am stealing 4th
in a snail for my and.
1533
01:21:13,480 --> 01:21:15,680
And James, so talking about
that, talking about fourth in a
1534
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,880
blade, like you remember our
senior year, we went through a
1535
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:21,240
rotating cast of characters.
We did.
1536
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:26,760
It was it was me, you and
everybody else was kind of
1537
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,000
rotating.
There was a lot of different
1538
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:31,400
moving parts that year.
And we didn't make excuses when
1539
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,840
we needed fourth in the yard
just because two guys that were
1540
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,960
were nicked up and we, you know,
they weren't in the game.
1541
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,960
Like at some point you got to
make the right play.
1542
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,600
Regardless of what your
personnel is in there.
1543
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,200
You got to go out there and just
make a play.
1544
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:45,960
You you need you need a snail,
you get a snail.
1545
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,120
Yeah, like, and then that's the
thing, like I feel like with
1546
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,160
this team, like you, you can
tell there's just seems to be no
1547
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:53,080
heart.
And I get it, man.
1548
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,360
You're in a it's a new area of
era of college athletics, man.
1549
01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:00,000
You're in IO, all this other
crap where you know that that
1550
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,280
possibly was the reason Nick
Saban gets out of coaching,
1551
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:03,280
right?
It's like, hey, the kids,
1552
01:22:03,480 --> 01:22:05,120
they're here for money now.
Cool.
1553
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,800
OK, if that's the case, then
find the kids that want to
1554
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,280
freaking play.
I'd rather go six and six with a
1555
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,840
group of guys who have hard and
give a crap like entirely, you
1556
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:16,320
know, you're wearing the the
Braves gear like this year,
1557
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,120
especially like I'm a huge
Braves fan as well.
1558
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,480
So this this sucks.
Like, you know, I'm ready for
1559
01:22:20,480 --> 01:22:22,160
hockey.
Like let's get hockey going,
1560
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:22,840
baby.
Let's go.
1561
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,760
Yeah.
So, but as a Braves fan that you
1562
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,720
sit there like, you know, if you
get blown out of the game, like
1563
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,120
if you're consistently losing,
like the Colorado Rockies,
1564
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:34,440
right, that's talent.
That means, hey, I don't have
1565
01:22:34,440 --> 01:22:36,680
talent.
When you're losing close games
1566
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:40,800
consistently, that's coaching.
That's 100% coaching.
1567
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:45,200
Like, and we do it every year as
hokey fans, like the last four
1568
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:47,360
years.
God, you know I have hope this
1569
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:49,360
year because look at all those
one score games.
1570
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,600
Look at all those one score
games like it's the same thing
1571
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,920
every year and you.
Can turn just a couple of those
1572
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:56,880
around.
You're on the the good side of
1573
01:22:57,320 --> 01:22:59,280
you're.
At 9, you're at 8.
1574
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,000
You're at 10.
If you could just turn one or
1575
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,440
two.
Yeah, you're a playoff team.
1576
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:06,320
I mean, my God, like, and and
you know, we're talking about
1577
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:10,040
recruiting like if I was at a
tech game last week and I, you
1578
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,360
know, I'm thinking about going
to tech and like, I see you
1579
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:14,520
laying the egg the whole second,
the whole second.
1580
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,840
Like you have 0 hope in that
second-half.
1581
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,720
There's nothing like I think
Sheldon, you mentioned this
1582
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,760
earlier, like there is nothing
in that second-half worth
1583
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,240
mentioning it.
It's like, you know, if and if
1584
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,160
you got, if you guys are Ted
Lasso fans, like it's like that
1585
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:32,160
one, one game where he puts it
to that funny music and like
1586
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:33,400
he's like, this is how you watch
this.
1587
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,480
Like that's how you watch that
second-half.
1588
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:39,320
There's nothing good about it.
Like you go out there and you
1589
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:43,240
look like crap and like your
whole your all your fans leave.
1590
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:45,000
I think.
And that's one thing as a Tech
1591
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:47,520
fan, like I remember there was
one year, you know, we're
1592
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,600
sitting there in like Georgia
Tech, they have Calvin Johnson,
1593
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,640
like, you know, Megatrons out
there. 2006 yeah like what
1594
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,480
fucking year you talking about
Yeah beats the.
1595
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:59,120
Crap out of us, right?
But you're 33 yards.
1596
01:23:59,480 --> 01:24:02,920
Yeah, like, but everyone was
still just about, everyone's
1597
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,960
still in the stands, everyone
like you're still waiting.
1598
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:08,200
We're down 33 touchdowns or
something.
1599
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:09,880
You're still there because you
know what?
1600
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:11,360
This is our team.
We love this team.
1601
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,680
But there's like, it's almost
like this athletic department,
1602
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,840
this coaching staff, they,
they've almost like just
1603
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:21,560
destroyed this.
And it's sad, man.
1604
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,120
It's, it's so freaking sad to
see.
1605
01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,440
It's so disheartening.
And I, you know, it's hard for
1606
01:24:26,440 --> 01:24:28,840
me to compare to anything.
Like I'm sitting like, I don't
1607
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,360
know if I've ever been like this
beat up.
1608
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,600
Like I'm sitting here thinking
like, I don't want my son to be
1609
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,520
a Tech fan, Man, this hurts.
Like, you know, I've always told
1610
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,480
him I was like, you know, he
loves playing baseball.
1611
01:24:37,480 --> 01:24:39,720
I think Tally, your son's a big
baseball player too.
1612
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:43,760
So I'm saying like he wants to
play college, Boston and further
1613
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:47,000
on last time, like a couple
years ago, all he wants to do is
1614
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,680
play Kentucky.
And then like we took him to a
1615
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,000
Tech game.
Now he's like, I want to go to
1616
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,080
Tech and I'm like, God, man, I
don't know.
1617
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,960
I don't know what you going to
tell me.
1618
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:56,600
Like I love.
I love, yeah, I love the school,
1619
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,720
but at the same time, like,
heartbreak is that this is hard,
1620
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,200
man.
Like this is this is
1621
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,760
heartbreaking.
It's devastating.
1622
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,920
And you know, you guys said,
hey, man, let's say eulogy for
1623
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,000
this program, man.
Like, yeah, I feel like this
1624
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,840
program has been dead for a
couple years now.
1625
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,840
It's like we just keep trying to
find that hope, like holding up
1626
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:16,360
hope and like finding hopefully,
like just hoping somebody can
1627
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:17,880
come by and resurrect this
program.
1628
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:23,640
I mean, I think was it like
didn't when I guess when Frank
1629
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,880
Beamer said like he was
retiring, like what didn't Curry
1630
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,920
Smart say, hey, like I'm
interested in this job?
1631
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,040
Like we, we could have had him
as a coach, like he wanted to be
1632
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,280
here.
But no, we we go and we get this
1633
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,080
head coach from Memphis.
Great.
1634
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:37,600
You know, look, look, look what
happens there.
1635
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,680
And I get it, man.
You got yeah, Bud Foster there,
1636
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,160
maybe like 2 defensive
coordinators.
1637
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:43,000
I don't know.
I don't know what all happened
1638
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:44,840
there.
And then, you know, Shane Beamer
1639
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,160
seems like he had an interest,
but then maybe not.
1640
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,680
Like you had a bunch of stuff.
I think everything came out.
1641
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,440
I don't know all the details and
I didn't read much into it.
1642
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:54,640
Like he wanted to come here for
a little bit.
1643
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,320
Maybe you guys can correct me if
I'm wrong.
1644
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,400
And that didn't work out.
We stuck with Fuente and he, you
1645
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:01,080
know, signed with South
Carolina.
1646
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,280
And then you look at one of his
is Taurean Gray.
1647
01:26:04,440 --> 01:26:05,880
He's on his coaching staff,
right?
1648
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,840
Like, Taurean Gray was a great
player for us.
1649
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:13,080
Like, great coach for us.
Yeah.
1650
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,320
Like I mean like.
He's doing the same job there
1651
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:18,360
that he was doing here.
Yeah, like why can't we have
1652
01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:22,760
like you have JC Price, but why
can't we get these other guys to
1653
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,080
come back?
Like you got Xavier DB, I get
1654
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,080
that you got Ferguson strength
and conditioning, but man like.
1655
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,080
Ambrose, give me a SEC here
because I think we're at the
1656
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,160
point and Tally brought it up
early.
1657
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:36,120
I don't know if you heard it,
because you got kids.
1658
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,000
You got to put kids to bed like
we do.
1659
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,800
Is it time to separate now?
I'm not saying kill the legacy,
1660
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:46,240
but is it time to find a whole
new staff, a whole new identity?
1661
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,800
The 25 the lunch pail will.
Be up here after.
1662
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,760
Forever 7 will be in the Raptors
forever.
1663
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:55,960
Is it a an AD?
I don't give a shit here.
1664
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,560
The AD is I want an AD who knows
football.
1665
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,920
Who is going to go and say I
need more money for football and
1666
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,880
that's all they're going to do?
I love what Matty B said.
1667
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,200
We need more money for football.
You want to win 10 games?
1668
01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:09,760
You want to go to the playoffs,
give us some more money.
1669
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:14,800
It's annoying, but is it time to
effectively, and this is now 10
1670
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:19,240
years later, is it time
effectively to take that step?
1671
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:23,480
Not shitting on his legacy, but
away from the Beamer and all
1672
01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:25,760
that stuff.
Yeah.
1673
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,360
I think that's what people are
saying.
1674
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,920
We're holding on to that past.
When is it time to finally let
1675
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,160
it go?
Because you know how long it
1676
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,560
took Alabama to let it go.
Do y'all know how long it took
1677
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:41,800
Alabama to let go of some sort
of Saban or excuse me, some sort
1678
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:48,160
of Bear connection?
Don't know how long it took 25
1679
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,240
years.
Guess what year that was?
1680
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,040
They hired Nick Saban.
Everyone before that had had
1681
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:59,520
some sort of connection to Bear.
You got to let it go, man.
1682
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,680
You got to let.
It go there's a different.
1683
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,800
Culture and legacy, and I think
there you go.
1684
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:07,880
When we talk about it, we can.
You can still have Virginia Tech
1685
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,640
culture and still be about what
Virginia Tech is all about
1686
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:18,400
without having to drag through
the legacy of your legend every
1687
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,440
single time throughout the way.
And that's not to say you can't
1688
01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:25,720
have alumnus on the staff
throughout this process, but
1689
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,320
that can't.
That can't be the focal point.
1690
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:32,840
At some point you've got to re
establish the roots of the
1691
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:36,680
program without looking behind.
You got to replant it.
1692
01:28:37,440 --> 01:28:40,720
You have to replant.
It and I would agree with that
1693
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:43,880
like I think, you know, I really
think it is time to move on
1694
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:46,920
like, you know, I think Price
done a really good job bringing
1695
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:49,800
it like or he he did a good job
bringing like, you know those
1696
01:28:50,760 --> 01:28:53,480
not back.
The one thing that pisses me off
1697
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:57,800
every single game week is the 25
like stop the 25.
1698
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,840
Like we got to stop doing that.
It's because like this, this was
1699
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,920
a Fuentes thing, like just a
Fuentes started this.
1700
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,960
And then also it'd be different
if you were good on special
1701
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:10,240
teams, but we suck on special
teams.
1702
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,400
Like we're not a good special
teams team.
1703
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,000
And then Sheldon could probably
look at the stats.
1704
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,520
I mean, I know when I look at
special teams, I get terrified
1705
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,840
like every time we punt the
ball, I'm like, they're they're
1706
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,280
going to return this.
And like, like we don't block
1707
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,960
kicks like we used to.
Like it's almost like when, you
1708
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,360
know, back in the day and like
we bring bean rope again, but
1709
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:30,360
like you almost expected him to
block a field goal or block a
1710
01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,160
block a punt, right?
Like it's every game you almost
1711
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:34,920
expect of that.
Whereas now it's like we don't
1712
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,720
go after the punt.
We try to set up a return every
1713
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:40,800
time or, or we, we allow them
to, you know, run touchdowns
1714
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:44,800
back on us with punts.
So I, you know, I really hate
1715
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,040
the 25.
So I wish they would let that
1716
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,240
go.
Me too.
1717
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,840
Like I it's, it's frustrating to
me as I'm like.
1718
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,760
The first couple years and then
it got stayed as shit the first
1719
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,120
year.
If they've done 16 to 7, that
1720
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,400
should have been it.
And the jerseys.
1721
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,880
The jerseys in the Raptors
forever, man.
1722
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:04,640
Yep, Yep.
Well, listen.
1723
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:09,440
Ambrose, brother, it's been too
long since we've seen you again.
1724
01:30:09,520 --> 01:30:12,920
He goes way back with Sigla.
Ambrose, you're another guy.
1725
01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:14,520
Got to know him.
Middle school known.
1726
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:16,160
Yep.
It's 30 years now.
1727
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,560
So listen, thank you for jumping
on, giving us your point of
1728
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:23,680
view, your thoughts, man, keep
in touch.
1729
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,720
Maybe maybe you know what,
Brian, let's let's try to see if
1730
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,360
we shit, if I don't know, I
invited you to the house last
1731
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:32,280
Saturday.
But anyways, let's try to get
1732
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:34,520
together, watch a game and see
if we can commiserate in it.
1733
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,600
Sounds like a plan man.
Y'all take care.
1734
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,160
Thanks for having me on man.
Love the podcast voice.
1735
01:30:39,440 --> 01:30:40,160
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
1736
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:41,120
Man, see you.
Thank you.
1737
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:45,760
All right, we are.
I appreciate all y'all jumping
1738
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,520
on with us, everybody.
I don't know how many.
1739
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,400
I felt like we had about 15
people on here.
1740
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:50,720
I don't know if anybody was hold
on.
1741
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,920
I should have marked it every
time we had somebody on notepad
1742
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,800
up here and marked it.
But Sheldon, anything else you
1743
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:01,240
want to lay on us before?
Our giveaway winner.
1744
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,640
Oh, there's Jay, he was down
there.
1745
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,920
Anything you want to load on us?
Because we are, we're not doing
1746
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,120
any keys or anything.
We're just going to make our
1747
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,640
picks and then we're going to go
big screeners and we're going to
1748
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,440
kick it.
Anything.
1749
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,560
I know you got a, you got a big
piece to drop.
1750
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,400
So, yeah, so down to your
assessment there.
1751
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:24,960
Yeah, so I dropped a piece for
the key play yesterday.
1752
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:28,640
Basically what I talked about
was, I mean, obviously we know
1753
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,640
like, you know, how badly we got
gashed and just what a disaster
1754
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:33,240
that was.
I felt like it was the first
1755
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,320
time where we kind of saw the
team really quit under Pride,
1756
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,560
which was disappointing because
I think that was 1 area where he
1757
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,480
where he was different from
Fuente is that his team's never
1758
01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:42,920
quit, but they quit last night.
So that was unfortunate.
1759
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,120
Or Saturday, which is
unfortunate.
1760
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:47,360
But what I talked about was
basically there are a bunch of
1761
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:50,360
trends in the Pride era that
just defy any sort of logical
1762
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:55,000
explanation that that is just
beyond any sort of, you know,
1763
01:31:55,400 --> 01:31:59,520
you know, minor, you know, you
know, offensive struggles or, or
1764
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,200
what have you.
Just stuff that shit that like
1765
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,480
does not even compute based on
what we understand about the
1766
01:32:05,480 --> 01:32:09,600
sport of football.
The first thing the non
1767
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:10,880
conference power for losing
streak.
1768
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,960
I do not know how Virginia Tech
has managed to have won this
1769
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,240
long.
It is 15 games.
1770
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:21,000
That is the tide for the fourth
longest streak all time in
1771
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,960
Division One since 1973 for
power for schools.
1772
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:26,480
And I know Pride did not start
it, but he has certainly
1773
01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:30,960
contributed to it.
And it is particularly jarring
1774
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:34,720
in the context of how easy Tech
schedule has been since Pride
1775
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:37,160
took over.
And I talked about this. 2022,
1776
01:32:37,480 --> 01:32:40,040
they had the easiest schedule in
the Power Four, one of the
1777
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,280
easier schedules in recent
memory that we've seen at this
1778
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:46,880
level. 2023 was the 30s schedule
in the Power four last year, all
1779
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,560
six of their wins were against
backup quarterbacks or
1780
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:50,960
quarterbacks that later got
benched.
1781
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:55,400
So you've got a absolutely gift
wrap schedule for you and your
1782
01:32:55,400 --> 01:33:00,280
record is 16 and 23 more.
So tech is the tech has played
1783
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:04,040
fewer top 50 opponents under
Pride than any other power force
1784
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,800
school since since 2022
according to SP Plus they've
1785
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:10,120
played more bottom 80 opponents
than any other power force
1786
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:12,480
school.
And despite this, they do not
1787
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:15,840
have a single win against a top
50 opponent since he took over.
1788
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:19,040
And they're the only power force
in the country for whom that is
1789
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,760
true since then has one.
Everyone else has at least 2.
1790
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:25,200
The average is 8.
They do not have a single tough
1791
01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,520
to win since Pride took over.
I just don't know how you
1792
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,280
explain that stuff.
No other team does this.
1793
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:32,160
Literally no other team does
this.
1794
01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:34,400
All right.
And then if you look at the
1795
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:39,240
close game records, one in 12
worst win percentage among 350
1796
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,320
qualified coaches this century.
So he is literally the worst
1797
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:45,640
close game coach in the modern
era of college football, which
1798
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:49,440
is a story unto itself.
Only 5 only three other coaches
1799
01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:52,000
have ever managed to lose 12 of
their first thirteen one score
1800
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:54,280
games.
So and you look at the list,
1801
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:57,200
it's like guys you have never
heard of in a million years.
1802
01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,480
But I mean, Joe Morehead, some
people have heard of him, but
1803
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:04,400
guys like Kevin Wilson, Todd
Dodge, Marcus Arroyo, like no
1804
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,440
one, no human being has ever
heard of those guys.
1805
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:08,680
Even for fans of those teams,
and I guarantee you don't know
1806
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:10,480
what what teams those coaches
coach for.
1807
01:34:11,440 --> 01:34:15,280
It's just inexplicable.
So I, I, I don't even know like
1808
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:18,960
what like just how to explain
the, the baffling level of
1809
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:23,120
incompetence on a, on a, on a
micro and macro level that this
1810
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,160
staff has kind of put together
like, 'cause you look at the
1811
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,280
1623 record and it's like, OK,
that's bad.
1812
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:28,760
No, it's actually worse than you
think.
1813
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,920
Because with their schedule,
with their, with how many close
1814
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,840
games they've been in, I mean,
they should be like, they should
1815
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:37,160
be a 600, you know, A600A650 win
program.
1816
01:34:37,480 --> 01:34:40,640
And they're terrible.
It, it just defies it defies
1817
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,960
all, all human logic.
So, and then lastly, I'll, I'll
1818
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:49,080
end my rant here.
You know, Fuente Fuente Fuente
1819
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,520
had many issues, as we all know,
we've talked about, you know,
1820
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:53,880
just the the issues that he had
recruiting wise, development,
1821
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,280
coaching, assistant hires and so
forth.
1822
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:00,000
But I do feel that he had some
redeeming qualities as a coach.
1823
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,840
Obviously, he was way too much
of a hard ass and a drill
1824
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,200
Sergeant and he did not have
great people skills.
1825
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,640
He did not have good, you know,
program management skills for a
1826
01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:11,520
powerful program.
But if you if you need him to be
1827
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,280
a hard ass or to to prep for a
single game against a really
1828
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,080
good team, he could do it.
He had some big wins.
1829
01:35:17,560 --> 01:35:20,040
You know, he beat UNC to start
the the 2021 season.
1830
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:21,760
I know they weren't great that
year, but they did have an elite
1831
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,200
offense with the NFL
quarterback.
1832
01:35:24,600 --> 01:35:27,680
I, I think he was a real head
coach prize, not a real head
1833
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:29,040
coach.
He just isn't.
1834
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,120
He does not possess the
attention to detail and the just
1835
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,120
the, the in game acumen and the
leadership skills that are
1836
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,800
required of a normal powerful
head coach for all the reasons
1837
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:41,040
that I've just talked about.
Because again, the things that
1838
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,520
have happened to this program
since 2022 do not make any
1839
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,000
sense.
They, they should not even exist
1840
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,560
on a molecular level.
It just defies, defies all sorts
1841
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,800
of of human intuition as far as
what is going on here.
1842
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,120
So that's what I have to say.
I certainly think the end is
1843
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:55,800
near.
I don't know.
1844
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:56,720
I don't know what's going to
happen.
1845
01:35:56,720 --> 01:35:58,200
But I mean, they're going to
have to pull the plug.
1846
01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:02,120
Eventually.
I mean, if, if we're looking at
1847
01:36:02,120 --> 01:36:04,800
it like if, if you're talking
about what where pride would fit
1848
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,760
in, Pride would be a much better
general manager of a of a
1849
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:11,360
program and as far as like being
able to.
1850
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:12,800
Not this one though, but go
ahead.
1851
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:17,040
Not this one, I'm saying, but he
would be, he would be better fit
1852
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:21,040
as the the glad hander, the guy
that's establishing those
1853
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,800
relationships, that's making
some of those type of decisions
1854
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:29,360
and not the guy that you want to
prepare and win a football game
1855
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:30,720
because that is where he is
struggling.
1856
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:34,480
He does a pretty poor job across
the board of preparing and
1857
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:37,920
winning football games.
And Shelton, to your point, it's
1858
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:41,160
like it flies in the face.
It's like it's outlier after
1859
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:42,880
outlier.
How can he still lose this?
1860
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:44,840
We're not.
We're not getting back to the
1861
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,400
mean at all.
Here it's still the same.
1862
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,680
Thing over and over.
It's statistically impossible
1863
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:51,640
for that shit to.
Happen.
1864
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,440
Look, I want y'all to put this
I'm I'm I'm going to throw mine
1865
01:36:55,440 --> 01:37:00,600
because I know we got to get
down put clean house's last last
1866
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:03,360
thing you put in the chat up
there there's. 2.
1867
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,240
The the one that the the last
one, Which one did you see?
1868
01:37:08,440 --> 01:37:11,760
Listen, man, I don't know if
he's saying this is torture like
1869
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:16,080
we're being tortured or if he
was saying Shelton was a torture
1870
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:17,680
like he was.
He was tortured.
1871
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:21,560
I don't know which one.
That's how bad things is he.
1872
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:25,520
He made a double sentence.
It could mean one of two things.
1873
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,840
We don't know.
We don't know what's going on,
1874
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:29,320
but this is what I'm going to
say.
1875
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:32,680
Y'all are going to go back and
listen to this and you're going
1876
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:35,280
to go through all that stuff
that Sheldon just sprouted out
1877
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,560
for about 10 minutes of nothing
but gas.
1878
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:42,640
I had to take my hat off and I
couldn't even think about
1879
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:47,920
everything he was saying.
Straight gas, gasoline, lighter
1880
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:52,800
fluid, going That's that's it's
so hard to even think about all
1881
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,200
the stuff he just said.
It's no other team that is as
1882
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:58,520
bad as we are since Brent
Pryor's been here.
1883
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,520
And I got to go back to it again
because we keep talking about
1884
01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:05,200
money.
We're paying this man 4 million
1885
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:08,800
dollars, $4,000,000 to be this
bad.
1886
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:13,920
And then on top of that, he gets
on the podium after losses and
1887
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:16,400
after bad things happen and
goes, I think we got a good
1888
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:18,360
team.
No Sir, we don't.
1889
01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:21,640
We don't got a good team.
We keep losing.
1890
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:25,720
You are one of the main reason
that we keep losing and you
1891
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:27,760
won't take accountability for it
to fix it.
1892
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,560
So I don't know what's going to
happen.
1893
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:36,000
I will say this, we are in the
age of NRL and we're in the age
1894
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:37,760
of money.
You can pay to have a team.
1895
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:40,840
I'm not saying that we have the
most money.
1896
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,160
But we got some.
We we had the money to give
1897
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:46,600
Xavier Chaplain to keep him in
Blacksburg.
1898
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:49,720
We had the money to give Monsour
Delane to keep him in
1899
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,040
Blacksburg.
I do believe that.
1900
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:54,560
I just don't think we managed it
the right way.
1901
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:57,400
We may have gave other people
money that didn't deserve it.
1902
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:01,640
You know, I think we're, we're
looking at a situation here
1903
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:05,440
where it might be the classic
overcorrect tally where you
1904
01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:09,480
know, you, you, you have you
brought back all the guys from
1905
01:39:09,480 --> 01:39:14,680
23 and it didn't work.
And so now you're like, well, we
1906
01:39:14,680 --> 01:39:17,360
can't, we can't pay these guys
that are asking for more because
1907
01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:19,520
we did that last year and we saw
what happened there.
1908
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:21,920
So we going to go in the other
direction and kind of moneyball
1909
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:24,560
it a little bit.
And while you got more depth
1910
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:28,440
overall, I'm not seeing the the
star power.
1911
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:34,040
And at the end of the day, you
got to make plays and, and if
1912
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:38,120
your coaching staff is not
setting you up and preparing you
1913
01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:43,800
and adjusting at halftime and,
and, and making sure that
1914
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,920
everything that you need to do
to be prepared to win a football
1915
01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,800
game is happening, none of that
matters.
1916
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:52,960
And, and I think that's the
problem is that we talked about
1917
01:39:52,960 --> 01:39:55,520
the inconsistency of the
execution and the inconsistency
1918
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:58,200
of the players.
But at the end of the day, this
1919
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:01,760
staff has been inconsistent with
their execution, inconsistent
1920
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,800
with their in game decisions,
inconsistent with the way they
1921
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,680
prepare their team to play and
the adjustments that they make
1922
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,760
in the game.
They have been inconsistent and
1923
01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:13,200
we've gotten to a point now
where this is who they are.
1924
01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,800
We thought maybe some shuffles
were going to change things.
1925
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,880
We had a little bit of hope last
week, but they fell on their
1926
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:23,080
face in a must win situation
against Vanderbilt.
1927
01:40:23,320 --> 01:40:26,000
And yeah, honestly, if they
would have won that game, that
1928
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,640
would have been the best win in
the Brent Pry era and that is
1929
01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:31,120
sad to talk about.
I'm.
1930
01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:34,920
Glad you hit it, Bron, because
what you said there about it's
1931
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,640
the coaches because I think we
watch.
1932
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:41,320
And you do think there are some
talented kids on this team.
1933
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:43,960
I had somebody stop by my desk
at work the other day and say
1934
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,240
we're just not talented.
I'm like, no, there's some
1935
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:51,200
talented kids on this team.
But the issue is coaches are not
1936
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,680
putting them in position to be
the most successful.
1937
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:56,160
And like you just said, Brian,
we're not adjusting.
1938
01:40:56,320 --> 01:40:58,480
We're not getting motivated.
I love what Ambrose said a few
1939
01:40:58,480 --> 01:41:03,280
minutes ago because, you know,
Shelton, you've been around, you
1940
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,560
know, sports programs.
Tally, Brian, y'all played.
1941
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,840
What did he say to them in the
locker room?
1942
01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:11,560
You're up 10 points that that
might have been the quote of the
1943
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,520
night.
What did you say to them?
1944
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,200
You are up 10 points.
You had forced 2 fumbles.
1945
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:20,640
You hit Pavia a few times, you'd
driven the ball a few times.
1946
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,040
The scores.
What did you say to them that
1947
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:27,560
literally made them check out?
And that is what a coach is not
1948
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:29,960
supposed to do.
Get your players to check out
1949
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:34,440
and completely just shit the bed
in half when you're up 10.
1950
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:37,480
This wasn't a high game.
Yeah, they they don't have them
1951
01:41:37,480 --> 01:41:42,920
mentally tough to withstand,
stand when they get punched
1952
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:44,480
back.
I know who told you that.
1953
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:46,400
I know who told you that.
I ain't saying it on Lair
1954
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:47,640
tonight.
But we know who said that.
1955
01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:49,000
We know who said that.
I do.
1956
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,240
They're they're, they're not
mentally tough, man.
1957
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,760
They they get punched and then
they fold and now they might
1958
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:57,480
have enough talent to stay in a
game and a couple times still
1959
01:41:57,480 --> 01:42:00,320
get the win, but when they get
punched they they fold.
1960
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:01,800
It's true.
All right.
1961
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:06,160
So, Shelton, what happened
Saturday?
1962
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:07,920
You don't have to even give me a
record.
1963
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:11,760
You can just say win or loss.
Yeah, I mean, I think they'll, I
1964
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,960
think I think they'll win.
The thing is, like a lot of
1965
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:17,000
people are talking about, you
know, like, oh, what happens if
1966
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:18,840
we lose to ODU?
I'm actually worried about the
1967
01:42:18,840 --> 01:42:20,480
opposite.
I'm worried what happens if we
1968
01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:23,440
beat up on ODU and Wofford and
finish six and six or dare say
1969
01:42:23,440 --> 01:42:25,640
even 7 and five?
I know it sounds crazy, but I
1970
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,320
still think it's a possibility.
Like we're just going to be
1971
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:32,120
stuck in, you know, purgatory.
You know, maybe some people feel
1972
01:42:32,120 --> 01:42:34,000
differently about pride, maybe
against another year, I don't
1973
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,800
know.
But I'm worried about things
1974
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,680
kind of leveling out and people
sort of seeing like, Oh my gosh,
1975
01:42:38,680 --> 01:42:41,280
you know, we're not as bad as we
thought and sort of using it as
1976
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,440
a reason to justify the further
complacency.
1977
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:45,880
So that's my biggest fear
because if we if we bottom out,
1978
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,120
you're like, OK, you know, you
just get rid of pride and we'll
1979
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,080
move on.
But if we kind of just, you
1980
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,240
know, float around the middle,
that's going to be that's going.
1981
01:42:53,240 --> 01:42:55,160
To be worse.
Not saying, not saying I'm
1982
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:57,800
rooting for us to lose.
But lame duck is worse than an
1983
01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,240
interim head coach at this.
Damn right it is, Brian.
1984
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,960
I'm again, I'm picking us to
lose because this is our
1985
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:09,240
principle at this point.
It's on.
1986
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:13,280
It's on principle at this point.
Show me you can win a game OD
1987
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,920
U's quarterback can run, so
could Diego Pavia.
1988
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,520
I'm worried that we're going to
see some of the same things
1989
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:23,000
happen in this game.
I mean, you know, you watch Ben
1990
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,840
Bell completely run with the
dive man in the triple option
1991
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:30,520
and like way out of position.
Like that's not that's not your
1992
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,920
responsibility, bro.
That's not your responsibility.
1993
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:37,720
Play your responsibility, be
smart and that's coaching.
1994
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:39,800
It goes back to coaching.
He should be coached good enough
1995
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,240
to not chase that ball like
that.
1996
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:45,440
Chase that play man.
And at the end of the day, you
1997
01:43:45,440 --> 01:43:48,520
got to be disciplined,
especially when you're playing a
1998
01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,640
triple option offense,
especially when you're playing a
1999
01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:52,080
team that has a mobile
quarterback.
2000
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,560
When the play breaks down, they
can make a play with their legs
2001
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:58,360
and you got an extra blocker
when you got a mobile
2002
01:43:58,360 --> 01:43:59,840
quarterback that can run the
football.
2003
01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:04,280
So you've got to be in position.
And they didn't show me that
2004
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:08,120
against a Vanderbilt team.
I'm hoping they show me that
2005
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:12,360
against ODU, but I'm not picking
it, picking them to win again
2006
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:13,960
until they show me they can win
again.
2007
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:17,120
All right, I'm going to go next
because I won't tally close it
2008
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:20,000
out.
I think what Shelton just says
2009
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:21,840
is probably right.
I think we're going to win
2010
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,640
because again, I think there is
talent on this team and I think
2011
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,600
there are a few players who what
are they trying to do?
2012
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:29,640
They're trying to get more
money.
2013
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:31,360
They're trying to make it to the
next level.
2014
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:32,960
Predatory.
Great.
2015
01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,240
When Where the hell you been,
Jim?
2016
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:37,840
I expected to meet Jim tonight.
Jim, you were late.
2017
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:41,600
I'm upset, but I think we went.
I don't, but I don't think it's
2018
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:43,680
pretty.
I don't think it's one of those.
2019
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,120
We punch him in the face.
I think it's going to be a damn
2020
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:48,600
grind fest.
So get your bourbon, get your
2021
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,520
cigarettes, get your dip out.
If you drink beer, do that.
2022
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,080
But get ready for a grind fest
Saturday night, Callie.
2023
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:59,600
If I got to do it, I really
don't want to do it.
2024
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:03,960
It's won a lot, yeah.
I'll say kind of what Curtis is
2025
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:07,240
saying, I think it's going to
be, you know, a grind fest.
2026
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,800
You know, I think we pull it
out, but I don't think it's
2027
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,120
pretty.
We may end up winning by 10,
2028
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,600
something like that.
Seven, I don't know, but I don't
2029
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:18,200
want to pick them to win just
because I'm pissed and I see
2030
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:23,320
what they keep doing.
But I will say this, Chad, if
2031
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:26,760
y'all don't know, I will be in
Vegas this weekend.
2032
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:28,920
So I won't watch a lick of this
fucking game.
2033
01:45:29,320 --> 01:45:32,240
I won't watch nothing.
But if y'all want to send me
2034
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:33,840
some money, I'll give you my
cash out.
2035
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:37,600
I can put all of our money on
Brett Pryor being fired and we
2036
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:40,520
might make enough money and we
can get at least one player.
2037
01:45:41,440 --> 01:45:44,080
I mean, odds are kind of looking
good right now.
2038
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:48,280
Let's just double it up, put as
much money in there as possible.
2039
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:51,480
I'll shoot y'all to you know the
screenshot of me going and
2040
01:45:51,480 --> 01:45:53,800
dropping it in there?
That might be the play.
2041
01:45:54,480 --> 01:45:56,840
That might be the play.
That might be the play because
2042
01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:59,320
it's pretty high right now.
And I think the feel from
2043
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:03,440
everybody, and this is not only
us, this is other podcasters,
2044
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:06,560
it's a tech sideline.
This is it's going to happen.
2045
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:09,920
The question is when?
So now that being said, now,
2046
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:13,320
Tally, I hope you you going to
go to a sports book, get some
2047
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:15,880
free drinks and let your bets
down that you can't do that.
2048
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:18,880
Yeah, yeah.
Let's get to it.
2049
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:24,080
Big screeners, You know, like,
like, was it Josh that said that
2050
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:27,040
he was watching the Michigan,
Oklahoma game while ours was on?
2051
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:30,040
Me and Brian were too.
But there we go.
2052
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:35,720
There's the current records.
Everybody two and two last week.
2053
01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:39,920
No, you were, you were three and
you were three and. 1/3 and one
2054
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,760
baby, three and one.
Let's fire this up.
2055
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:47,520
Let me get my picks up here.
All right?
2056
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:52,680
We are my game.
I am taking the Clemson in
2057
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:56,760
Georgia Tech Georgia Tech a home
dog at plus 3 1/2.
2058
01:46:57,160 --> 01:47:00,880
Clemson Doo dooed all over
itself last Saturday afternoon.
2059
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:04,040
I think they were lucky with the
lightning delay that that
2060
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:07,920
somewhat even them out.
I think they get refocused
2061
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:11,240
because as much as I hate Dabo,
for some reason he knows how to
2062
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:15,480
get his kids focused.
I think it is a good game
2063
01:47:15,480 --> 01:47:18,640
against Georgia Tech, but 3 1/2
is not enough to cover.
2064
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:20,760
I think Clemson wins by a
touchdown.
2065
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:24,720
Give me Clemson, Shelton.
Yeah, I'll take Clemson, too.
2066
01:47:24,720 --> 01:47:27,160
Like you said, I like Dabo to
have his guys ready to kind of
2067
01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:29,520
punch back after a couple of
underwhelming performances the
2068
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:36,440
first two weeks.
Dabo brings his own guts, so
2069
01:47:36,440 --> 01:47:43,720
we're going to go with Clemson.
I am also rocking with with
2070
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:47,480
Clemson in this one, kind of
like Curtis and, and Sheldon
2071
01:47:47,480 --> 01:47:51,000
said they're, I think they've
they've had one game where they
2072
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:52,360
didn't really play the way they
wanted to.
2073
01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,440
They had another game where they
completely laid an egg.
2074
01:47:54,440 --> 01:47:58,040
I think this is going to be a
focused team in a conference
2075
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:02,240
matchup that they're going to
need to win to keep their hopes
2076
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,360
alive for post season play.
So give me Clemson here.
2077
01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:08,560
All righty.
Yeah, we go next one.
2078
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:13,080
Hallie, this is your this is the
one you putting all the money on
2079
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,800
Saturday night right when you in
Vegas getting your free drinky
2080
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:17,600
drinks there.
We go, I'm going to go with, I'm
2081
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,160
going to go with Notre Dame,
man.
2082
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:20,480
I'm going to go with Notre Dame
here.
2083
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:26,480
I just feel like 6 1/2 is, you
know, it's going to be a
2084
01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:29,200
touchdown game at least, and I
feel like Notre Dame will be the
2085
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:33,320
ones that's going to take it so.
Fine.
2086
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:38,760
Yeah, I'm going Notre Dame too.
I think A&M is still fool's
2087
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,920
gold, man.
Give me the Irish.
2088
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:47,800
Yeah, I'm, I'm with you, Brian.
I watch pieces of both the UTSA
2089
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:53,080
game and the Utah State game and
it did not look pretty where
2090
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:57,880
Notre Dame was in a freaking war
down at South Beach, battled all
2091
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,960
the way back, Damn near pulled
that off against Miami.
2092
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:05,200
I think home cooking is going to
help them and and tally it's I
2093
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:07,800
think what you said is right.
It's like a touchdown game.
2094
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:11,120
So when it's like this and I
like Notre Dame more, I'm going
2095
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,960
to go Notre Dame.
Yeah, I'm going.
2096
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,080
I'm going to or excuse me?
No, pardon me, I'm going.
2097
01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,960
A&M, Really.
No particular reason.
2098
01:49:19,960 --> 01:49:22,120
No, I just picked them.
I honestly don't know much about
2099
01:49:22,120 --> 01:49:24,800
these teams.
He's not.
2100
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,360
All of us picked Notre Dame and
he just zigzagged on it, you
2101
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:27,880
know?
What?
2102
01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:30,160
You know what?
Just take them.
2103
01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,520
There we go.
Next up, Sheldon.
2104
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,400
Yes, Backyard Brawl.
I was really excited about this
2105
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:42,240
match up.
Even though West Virginia had a
2106
01:49:42,240 --> 01:49:46,320
really ugly outing last week.
I for some reason, I just like
2107
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:47,680
them to bounce back.
I think they're going to be
2108
01:49:47,680 --> 01:49:50,280
motivated to kick the rivals ass
of our heated rivalry.
2109
01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:52,440
So I'm going, I'm going
Mountaineers.
2110
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:56,000
Mountaineers, there we go.
There we go.
2111
01:49:56,480 --> 01:49:59,040
Tally.
I hate both of these teams, but
2112
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,160
I hate the Mountaineers a little
bit more, so I couldn't pick
2113
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:04,680
them, so I picked Pitt.
They're an emotional.
2114
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:07,120
Pick hey.
Sometimes you got to go with the
2115
01:50:07,120 --> 01:50:10,400
emotions, man.
I I went the other way.
2116
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:11,640
I'm kind of with Shelton on this
one.
2117
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:15,680
I think West Virginia has not
played that great a football so
2118
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:17,920
far.
I think that they kind of circle
2119
01:50:17,920 --> 01:50:19,960
the wagons a little bit.
They're ready to play in this
2120
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:21,040
one.
I think it's going to come down
2121
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:23,000
to A1 score game.
I think it's going to be under a
2122
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,880
touchdown, so I'll take West
Virginia here.
2123
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:30,080
You're taking West Virginia.
I'm riding with Tally on this
2124
01:50:30,080 --> 01:50:33,480
one because not necessarily that
I hate West Virginia or
2125
01:50:33,480 --> 01:50:37,680
anything, but West Virginia put
up 10 points against Ohio.
2126
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,560
Ohio.
And yes, that was not on the
2127
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:46,080
road.
That was at Mountaineer Field in
2128
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:50,880
Morgantown saying y'all what?
Know what Narduzzi likes to.
2129
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:52,360
He likes rough salt in people's
wounds.
2130
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,200
I think he going to go up there.
I think they going to kick their
2131
01:50:54,200 --> 01:50:55,520
ass by about 14 points.
We're going.
2132
01:50:58,080 --> 01:50:59,640
To see.
We're going to see.
2133
01:50:59,880 --> 01:51:08,120
We are going to see Brian.
Oh, first of all, can we just
2134
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:11,800
say why isn't game day here?
Why isn't game day here?
2135
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:15,240
Why isn't game day here?
Because it's a 17 1/2 point
2136
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:18,000
spread.
And well, and, and that's,
2137
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,040
that's one of the problems with
with when we were looking at
2138
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,080
because I threw this game, I was
like, give me that game.
2139
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:26,400
And then I saw the spread.
I was like 17 1/2.
2140
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:32,480
Yeah. 17 1/2 may may, maybe if
it was like 14 or 15 in a hook
2141
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:36,440
maybe, but like 17 1/2 that's a
lot of points.
2142
01:51:36,760 --> 01:51:38,880
So I think y'all know where I'm
going with this one.
2143
01:51:39,360 --> 01:51:41,680
South Florida, man, that's too
many points.
2144
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:43,960
The way they played, they played
really well.
2145
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:47,280
They got some two big wins.
I don't think this is going to
2146
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:50,120
be a game where they are
outmatched or overmatched.
2147
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,400
I think they even if they get
down, they'll have the ability
2148
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:56,600
to punch back late.
So I think that at worse you're
2149
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:58,040
going to get a back door cover
here.
2150
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:05,240
So South Florida for me.
Brian, I believe I I lost my
2151
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:10,680
damn place here.
You're next South Florida, South
2152
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:16,400
Florida, yeah, you came y'all
stadium is worse and not as loud
2153
01:52:16,480 --> 01:52:20,760
and not as raucous.
So yeah, y'all aren't Florida on
2154
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:23,760
that.
But I just think the way it's
2155
01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:27,920
go, the way that South Florida
has been coached, they came out
2156
01:52:28,480 --> 01:52:30,400
beat the living shit out of
Boise.
2157
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,680
Like just literally got punched
on that first drive.
2158
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,760
And then just, yeah, we've all
seen these funny fights on
2159
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:39,000
YouTube and stuff where somebody
gets hit in the face, they get
2160
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,440
sick, and then they just throw
like 7 haymakers in a row.
2161
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:44,000
That's what they did to Boise.
And then they got in a fist
2162
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:46,520
fight down the swamp.
I think.
2163
01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:50,320
I think they're going to lose,
but 17 is just way too much
2164
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:51,920
delay.
I mean, that's so many points
2165
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:53,280
delay, especially the way they
play.
2166
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,880
Yeah.
Sheldon yeah, I'm taking S
2167
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:58,520
order.
That's that's a lot of points
2168
01:52:58,520 --> 01:52:59,840
there.
They can lose by 17.
2169
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:05,120
I don't think 17 1/2.
Yeah, and that's what I said.
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I was like it could be 3 scores
but it's not going to be more
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than 17.
Yeah, and I'm feeling the same
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way.
I'm like 17 1/2 was too many.
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It might be 14 and maybe 17.
I think Miami's the more
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talented team and will win, but
I I don't think that they'll
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beat them by 21 points, 18
points, anything like that.
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Sorry to cover your face up
tally, but sure.
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Yeah, no, it's all good.
All right, well there it is
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right there that are our pics
for this week.
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Listen, I'm going to say it
again before we wrap it up.
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Appreciate everybody.
Hey people, everybody in the
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chat tonight.
Y'all lit it up.
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01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:48,120
But we we would tell everybody
to come on and talk for
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everybody that came on and
talked and gave their piece.
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That's what we want.
That's what we want.
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We had so many different
viewpoints, so many different
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01:53:55,040 --> 01:53:59,760
angles, and tonight is something
Brian had wanted to do for a
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while.
And like, we found the perfect
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01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:03,560
spot to do it because
everybody's pissed right now
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01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:07,280
because ain't nobody happy love
to hearing y'all's viewpoints on
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that.
And with that being said, let's
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wrap up this episode of the
Boundary Corner podcast.
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I'm Curtis Wilson.
I'm Brian Siegler.
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01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,000
Jonathan Talley.
And I'm Sean Moss.
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01:54:19,440 --> 01:54:21,480
We are brought to you by the
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We are also part of the College
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Check out our website,
boundarycornerbt.com and listen
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to all of our episodes.
Seriously, go back and listen to
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01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:35,760
November 2020 and see me, Luke,
me and Brian.
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01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:39,240
But lose our minds.
Not as bad tonight because I
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think we have people basically
losing our minds for us in here,
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01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:44,960
which is a great thing.
Makes me sleep easier at night.
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01:54:45,240 --> 01:54:49,520
Go back, check out that, follow
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Listen to this tomorrow on your
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As always, we.
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01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:00,840
in play us out.
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01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:03,880
where he can link to all of his
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Spotify, YouTube, Facebook.
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live events down in the New
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We appreciate y'all not only for
listening tonight.
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01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:15,840
We appreciate y'all for jumping
on with us.
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01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:20,400
And as always, as much as they
make our lives miserable right
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now and we want to throw things,
let's go.
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OK.
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