OFSN 201: Commonwealth Recruiting Blueprint in 2021

0:21 The fields for the dirt. We don't even grow. I spent my morning just cleaning shit off your skin. This house is falling down. The beach. Bellas are poking out. It can ramble mother mold of Steel. Mr. Can attack. Welcome back in the boundary Corner podcast, along with Brian seagull of this is Curtis Wilson. What's going on, man. It's episode 3, man.

1:01 How you been? Oh good man, good weekend, weekend treated me. Nice. Got to get to make some barbecue and enjoy this and some over to my pops in the new place, so it was a good time. We'll buy you all, we wrapped up basketball, season played Baseball with the kids in the neighborhood, getting ready for that and about a month here. So nice, relaxing weekend plus, you know, the weather Sunday was gorgeous, Saturday. It's freezing man. And, you know, watch some hoops a little bit of golf but overall great weekend in. And speaking of this weekend, we have to combine going on.

1:41 Nope. Yeah, Brian and you just looked at what the next 60 days, hold as sports fans, May you got to give me the rundown because right now we're still in that Lake. It's not football season even though we got the XFL right now. So you got to give me the rundown to see. We got to look forward to. All right? So we just have to combine, right? Yep. Which were going to talk with Dalton key in a few minutes on that. All right, start in a couple weeks you get the conference tournaments basketball tournament. There we go. All over the place, then the madness starts early, release exactly, you know, No, I'm the golf nerd. The players in the Masters are on the Forefront.

2:25 We got opening day in baseball. One of the best days of the year right there. Great day of the year, we got Spring football happening poke, start on the 21st spring games are happening. Spring game is going to be tape-delayed and on television this year, which is awesome because I know you're going to be out of town. I don't know if I'm gonna stay up to 10:30 and watch it but just knowing we can see the team play. It's going to be awesome. Definitely will. Maybe get some eyes on how the new ooh, alignments and stuff on defense. Whos playing. Whos not. And then we're going to cap it off in the legs in the 60 days with the NFL draft.

3:06 So kind of football, season begins again. So the next 60 days, anybody telling you oh there's really nothing on. There's nothing sports to do know. They're so much so you know you know head out to your favorite bars, watch the tournaments. You know, if you get a chance we're probably not going to be able to Go down to Blacksburg spring game is one of the best experiences that you can go to. This circle is so cool. Just getting to see the players up close, getting to talk to them for a little bit after the game, get to see all the alumni and the old faces come back, come back into town and cut it up a little bit. It's nothing but a good sound.

3:55 It is and it's and it's worth it if you're a Virginia Tech fans. An and you have that day available you know take the if it's just you and a buddy do that. If you can take the family and kids take it hit, downtown up, do a little tail gate and go into the stadium. It's free and did get on the field afterwards. And like Brian said, the the program really pushes the players to kind of stay around when we went, you know what? Five years ago. Now then 2015, I mean we met I am Adonis all these guys who were stars on the team and the Edmonds Brothers, the Edmonds Brothers. All three of them should post that picture.

4:37 Biggest trick tree came back for the game. Exactly, it's just an experience worth going to and these other sporting events, watch them, enjoy them. It's a lot of fun. But the first thing that really kicked this off was the combine and man our boy Dalton Rambo, he tore it up. Up towards solutely, did had a great showing it to me, his take doesn't lie, he is a football player. I think what he did for himself is probably solidified that he's going to get drafted, he definitely solidified. He's going to get drafted.

5:18 Then he made a push to say I might be able to get taken at the back end of day two, if the right fit is there and I think that's something that Didn't really think was even going to be a possibility going into it, just because of his skill set, being a little more Niche. But I think putting all those measurables together. I think, maybe cause some eyes, or some of those teams that may say, Hey, you know, we might want to take a chance on this guy even if even in the third round or something like that, if the, you know, the timing is right. Yeah. Well let me do the thumb for those who, if you haven't seen it on Twitter or went to the on FL comments, I will do a quick rundown Down what he did 21 reps and the bench, which I think was fourth, 47 140, which was third. Correct me if I'm wrong on his worst event was the vertical leap at 34 inches.

6:13 I think he was like 9th or 10th three comb 7.07. Again, using that top five range. Now, the two events he really excelled at the broad. Jump 100, 25 inches. Which was best among the tight ends. Yep. In the one for me, where it showed Elite in all forms because he is on the on one on the first two pages, top of the 20-yard shuttle at four point one nine seconds from real quick, kind of explain for a tight end having that Elite Shuttle time. What it what it says, two coaches like that because he was he's in there with some white out since Stuff where it's kind of like, whoa.

7:02 We talked about, you know, being able to change direction that's going to come in handy on if there's some sort of scramble drill when the quarterbacks and trouble being able to change directions, real quick and get to the spot get open. It's going to be handy on those angle routes that you had talked about in episode 2, things that he has really shown chilling out on film already. That, you know, he can show one thing and then all of a sudden you know he's cutting across the middle of the field into that into that void and once he gets the His hands. He's so good at making making people miss and breaking tackles for a guy, his size. So, you know, I think that we're definitely looking at. Like I said, the stocks definitely Rising after that combine performance and, you know, talking about the shuttle but also talking about the broad Jim, I mean there's a lot of what we think about blocking from a tight end position.

7:56 You know the explosiveness for the broad jump. A lot of that is tied to the explosiveness of At the point of contact when you block. So, you know, those things definitely definitely showed that he's got that exposed as an ability to like we talked about finished blocks and be able to make really good contact at the point of attack. Absolutely, I'm really interested to see, you know, about, I guess. We'll be about a month here at his pro day down at Virginia Tech and then kind of see where he gets interviewed. You know, the combine everybody can interview you, but it's, those sort of second ones where, teens might fly you out because it's like, we need to know more.

8:37 Going to be interested to see how that, how that happens for him over the next two months here. Ben Curtis wants a trip to Santa Clara I don't know. Yes well I mean you know I looked at Cal juice check come a 49ers fan Hokie nation and is similar numbers to juice. Check now juice check was a full back in college. We're dying was Dalton was more of a you know tight in HVAC but some of the stuff he does I can see it translating to us but we don't know. Brian, did you catch the Brock Hart hit series. You know, I did, you know I did.

9:19 What do you think, man? Love to production. Another again, let's let's get the personalities out there. So my biggest takeaway and what I'd loved from watching that and I was tweeting about it. I know some people are called on to that but just things kind of going south in terms of his eligibility and how he really pivoted to being that off the field leader last year for that team. And that's what really stuck with me doing all that. Because that's, that's hard. When when you're used to playing and you're used to being the guy that is out there in the alpha role and showing it on the field and showing it on game day and all of a sudden you have to take a new role, the fact that he was able to blossom into that so fast and get and gain all the respect from guys in the Locker room right out the gate that says something about his character and says something about his ability to lead and the fact that we're going to start getting some of that on the field this year, just thinking it's got me height, agree on something else on that.

10:21 I want to say about brought me and Brian, luckily had an interaction with him at the pit game after the game was over. We sort of walk down behind the Virginia Tech bench, just kind of set their dapping up guys, me and him chitchat looking around. Round and Brock is if he can remember Brian, he was probably, I don't know 10 or 12 feet on the field on the field. So they've even gave me some further and actually probably passed us in terms of yeah or field of view and me and Brian were called we called out free broadcasting and he stops and he like, gives us the thing and he stops again and he came over, he took his time to walk all the way over. You know, we sort of said hey you know, good luck.

11:05 Next year, can you know, we're glad you're here. Adapt us up, gave us a couple minutes, talks and then walked in, but when you have something like that where he could have just did the fist bump and do that that made our day him walking over and talking to us and kids Special that bloop is going to be nasty because I think his mentality you saw some of the think it was Silas right? Or you can see in silence like these guys want to go kill people, to put it lightly and I think him coming into that group. The competition's going to get higher. And I think the group was very good last year in very young. I think we're going to be, I don't, I'm not going to say Elite this year, but we're going to be borderlining on that.

11:49 If everybody takes the steps coach Vice, I mean, he's really going to have some options because he's gonna have about six or seven guys that have seen significant snaps weather for the Hokies or in Brock's case for Coastal just coming in And guys, they can lean on and just put together the best five out of that experience group. And that's going to be something that, you know, he really didn't have, he hasn't really had it hit during his time at in Blacksburg. So I'm excited to see what the finished product is going to look. Like, we've got so many young guys that played significant snaps last year and then, we've got a couple of Veteran, guys, anchoring The Tackle positions.

12:35 So I'm really interested to see how they end up shaking out the starting five but I mean having seven like I said, seven guys that have starting potential going into the season is pretty incredible. Yeah. And that's going to make the depth gray and that's going to make the competition. Unbelievable, one more thing. Before we get into the day's topics, thus California to VC movement and I'm going to, I'm going to say my perspective was like this, I saw it, we giving offers that's cool, you know. But then we'll all there some milk Midnight Madness. Some guy showed up. I'm like that's cool. Probably two or three guys know. Brian. You looked a little closer and you texted me like not all how many good man, it was. It was a whole busload, man.

13:21 They were just, I was, I was like, I didn't even think that was something that we would, we would see. Like I said, we heard the quiet Rumblings and things on Twitter. Like, okay, California to VT and all of a sudden, you know, we Got this whole crew there in Lane stadium and midnight medicine. I'm like oh man, that that's some that's some special stuff. And you know, they're getting likely from that perspective and experience it that they can't. You just can't be replicated anywhere. I'd say definitely not the Pac-12. So you're right out the gate that's got to be. That's got to be a big impression on them. And we're kind of putting our best foot forward with that.

14:05 It Interesting to see where it goes. If we can land any of them, one of them. I mean, at this point stretching, our footprint is not going to hurt. I mean, casting a wider net. You know, we get some more recognition across the across the whole country versus just in our region. So I don't think it's a problem there, especially since we're starting to see some of the recruiting resources climb a little bit, which, as we have said in a couple episodes past that, that's definitely something we like to see. Absolutely. All right, so guys, what we're going to be looking at today is we got see a 2 V T, but we're going to be looking at Virginia. We're going to be breaking down kind of the overall. What?

14:49 Recruiting looks like in Virginia, this year, where the Elite Talent is some of the names, things like that, for the what we consider the elite of elite guys, four guys in the top. 10 Brian did some video breakdown. So, you know, this is going to be thinking about guys that play in live near you. We're going to give you some more info on them so we'll start that out right now. Braun the 2021 Virginia High School class. There's only one word for its Elite. Big time, man, big time. So you know, as we as I started kind of looking through some of the recruits and Where we, you know, where they are. I want to kind of give a breakdown. Like who are the Hokies recruiting? Are we not offering guys?

15:43 Because after 2020, you know everybody, we didn't get anybody got one guy in state looking Rudolph and now it's like what's going on. You know, why? We recruit the state of Virginia? Well, that's you just won an appeal and straight or one the peeling in State this year. Let me just say looking at some of the numbers. It is definitely. We are trying to get the state this year. So I'm looking at just the top 20 Braun. And okay, we have offered 14 of the top 20 players in the state. That sounds more like a Virginia Tech recruiting push in the state than what we saw last year.

16:23 Absolutely. I mean, you know, 70% of the class, all varieties of positions. So, you know, I think last year again, like, kind of like the 20/20 class in general. It was just that weird cycle. And I think we're back to more of what we do in the state. Now, looking at these 20, guys, and again, Just to kind of throw you the difference between lasting this year. Seven of those guys are in the top 24/7. I've told you guys before I think, 247, Sports does a great job. I think how they break the guys down, how they rank them, how they're consistently moving them up and down, based on their skill level, their size, offered us and so on. But there are seven this year in the state and Compared to the last year.

17:16 I think it was. What to the top two guys wore in the top 24/7. Yeah, yeah. So we were looking at the two guys that we that we worked on last year with were the only two that they're really cracked the 24/7 there. So yeah, right now you guys kind of wondering. Well so we only offered, we've offered 20, you know, 14 of the top 20 who didn't, we offer, and want to give you their names positions and where they are. Just just so you maybe get an idea. Is it a position where he committed on? Or are there bigger dogs out there? As we look into this further? The first guy I'm going to look at is trim Atkins. He is out of Clintwood, VA Ridgewood High School 61 195 athlete.

18:02 I'm just looking at that body frame type and that tells me probably whiteout or defensive back, doesn't give the full breakdown. Next guy, is James Gillespie, 6-foot to 300 pounds. Of tackle at a Woodbridge, you know, body type seems they're not offered yet again. There are things probably behind the scenes, we don't know, we don't know their grades, we don't know the fit but not offered yet. Another one, Trevon green six-foot-seven 367 found offensive tackle out of Colonial Heights like Christian Academy. I would say just looking at his size not seeing any tape, he sounds like more of a motive.

18:45 Motor grader type offensive. Lineman as you know Brian from looking at a lot of the tape. We're not looking for the huge linemen to push the pile. We're looking more athletic guys. Next couple guys, need Evans 61 175, again listed as an athlete out of cocks down. VB he's already committed to Tennessee, I don't have his commitment date. So my apologies for not having the research there, but again, you see that fit? You think defensive back wide receiver? And Jay wolfert 6-1 200-pound Jewel threat quarterback out of Richmond. Benedictine already committed to UVA. So, out of the six guys that are in the top 20, 20 minutes committed, a couple of them are athletes at positions. That as Brian, you can see what's on the board. This year, we might have already thrown a number of offers out. What do you think?

19:39 I think the big thing is the number of offers we already thrown out at those positions and combine that with with fit, I mean I think that's going to be the biggest thing as far as those guys that we didn't offer, particularly some of the defensive backs. We're already looking at a couple guys at the top of that list at that position, you know, the further we get down in the top 20. I don't think we're going to necessarily, just keep offering guys down the list, especially in the same. State and then the quarterback that's at UVA regardless of that situation. You know we had a very early commitment from from D there so I don't think that's really any comparison there and I think we got the better end of that that exchange. So I'm not concerned about that at all. So yeah, just think I think we're looking at probably a combination of fit.

20:30 Maybe some personality things that just don't quite quite bash. And obviously guys, we have maybe already made offers to A little bit further up the the totem pole for us, in terms of what we want to do and you say what we want to do. Because just and again I've looked further than the top 20 in VA. There are some guys 20 to 30 range. The biggest one is Jalen's Stroman. Greg Stone, his brother. He's offered you know the other guys and that 20 to 30 range in the Virginia that maybe fit what we want to do and we've offered them versus the guys in the top 20. Maybe per our coaches eyes. These guys get better. The big December Stroman there.

21:11 I'll say was strong and because we're talking about what we're trying to do. You know we have really started to hang our Hat on at least at the skill position, versatile players, whether it's guys that can play, you know, Whip and Rover where it's guys are going to play Corner safety. I mean, we're looking at trying to get more versatile on defense. When we look at offense, we're looking at guys that can play, you know, do stuff in the chat. We do stuff from the wing, but also split out wide, and just run your traditional route tree. So, I think the versatility is, what we've really been hanging our hat on from a skill position perspective. And so I think some of that Strickland down into some of how we're recruiting some of these players. Oh, that's lutely.

21:57 And I think you're 100% right on that. The other thing I look at Brian, you know, we as the state, everybody likes to beat their chest, right 75. So, yeah, I know. Let's hear the echo from where the best part this year. You look at the top 20 guys and it's a it's crazy how this breaks down, but you're looking at of the top 27 from the 75 76 or from the 80 46, or from Nova. And one is from the southwestern part of the state. So what this tells me, we all like to beat our chest about where we live and the kids that play there. But what this tells me is the state of Nia is a well-balanced, take their here. There are talented, guys, in every Corridor and leave no stone unturned.

22:48 And as we've seen through, you know, side of the offer list, they're not. They have offered guys in every sector so does that shock you in anyway? Brian from coaching in the high school ranks or this is what Virginia is. We are very well balanced state. It is good more. So I'd say in probably the last decade or so in the last decade or so I've really seen Nova and the 804 really step up their game relative to what when used to be going on with 75 70 75. I don't think there's been any drop-off and 757. I just think that those other regions have started to catch up a little bit and they're really given 757 Run for the money and so I think that's what you're seeing is that there's a lot more balance across the state as you said. Ed in this in this prospect game now and I think some of that's just coming coming from the 804 and Nova catching up on some of the things that the 757 was doing 10 15 years ago. And I think they're starting to do that in the 804 and start to do that Nova now and it's really paid some dividends. Yeah 100% And also the guys who are coming back you think Lauren Johnson over at Highland Springs. If you think about the Louis guy going down, the They're guys who played at different levels, that are coming back to the 804 and they're going back to the 757 there guys up in Nova great coaches.

24:14 But it, you're right, Brian. It has kind of trickled and I think that's good for Virginia Tech as a program because if it's all over the place, there's no one hot bed. So for us, it's get the guys you want from those particular areas. Now I'm going to say this, I said at the beginning Elite Eat. You want to hear how Ali run about? Let's go for a top three players in the state. So the top three players in the state as follows. They are Tristan Lee. The offensive tackle about a Nova, he got a huge bump recently. He is the number for offensive tackle in the country. In the country, not in the state in the entire country and I know Brian.

25:03 You're going to do some break down a little while in these guys but let me just more elite elite part of this class. Oh yeah. Treyvion Henderson down at hope will help because the number two, running back, not in the state in the country in the country country, and that's where 24/7 Rob will put Henderson at one a couple days ago. So, In Elite, and clearly the the top dog number one, in the state. Number one quarterback in the country, number six, overall, in the country, The Joker, Tony Grimes. Number one in the country. Do all three of these guys are top 20 in the country in the country.

25:51 Literally what that is saying is for any of these three guys, if you get on, it's almost Active of day one, they're going to come in and play. Oh yeah. Any high-capacity. So Brian is you know there's one other guy too and I just saw this a few minutes ago. You know naquan Brown's not down the number 10 defensive end in the country. That's crazy man, that's crazy. So we talked about it earlier, you know, and one of our podcast last year wasn't a great year for the state this year a lead of elite and We'll move to here is Brian, has actually looked the four guys that just mentioned.

26:34 Brian is actually looked at the tape and done a little Scouting Report. So we're going to move on to that next. All right, Brian. Let's start with maquon brown, Ocean. Lakes VB6 3205 defensive end. What you see on this text, right? So, the biggest thing I'm seeing about the quad Brown, we're looking at an elite Edge rusher. He can Get off the ball and he can beat you with speed over the edge. He's really strong relative to his weight. Actually, I saw him take on a number of double teams on tape. Never seem to get overpowered on those, even giving up a bunch of weight. The biggest thing that I liked was when looking at running game, especially when he was on the backside is that he was really good at getting flattened fast in inrush Pursuit from the backside. So he was able to walk down a bunch of plays going away from him.

27:28 Because of his Pursuit angle because it'd be getting a really good read at the snap of the football. So piggybacking on that he diagnoses please quickly, he attacks me and he trusts his instincts. He did a really good job of knocking the offensive lineman's hands down and pass plays plays fast but disciplined. You know, he's going to need some weight. Probably to be an every down player at the power 5 level. But I think out the gate, you can probably see him as an immediate contributor on special teams and probably some select packages on defense. All right, now when you're talking about the hands and stuff so you feel technique-wise football IQ eyes, he's there? Yeah.

28:16 So he's definitely a guy that knows both knows his technique but also is has really good instincts, and is able to put that technique into practice and plays really. Let me ask this because the way it is, the concern 2005. You know, you don't see any guys at the D1 level, play it that way July's, a big Camp time so that's about five months from now. Where would you want to see his weight be at come July. When he comes to maybe the Tech camp or some of the other you know can see some more bleep Prospect going to the Under Armour camps going to the rivals camps. What would you like to see his way that in four to five months? I definitely like to see you at least put on 10 pounds in that time.

29:02 If he can get up to the to 15, maybe even to 20 range, I think we're looking at, you know, moving in the right direction, I'm especially considering he hasn't been in a college weight program yet. And that, you know, once he gets to Blacksburg will probably will be good to probably put on another. Another 10 pounds at least over over what is being done now. But I think if he can get at least 10 more on him before he comes in, that would be, that would go a long way to Helping his his prospects as far as getting on the field year, one understood? Alright, next guy, I want us to take a look at our, you took a look at. I should say, probably a guy he'll be competing against potentially in some of these camps and for us, Hokies we hope they're competing.

29:46 You know, next fall against one another in Camp, Tristan, Lee the offensive tackle, the guy got the huge bump this week Robinson. Secondary School fair fight. Max, 65 to 75 what you see on him, you know, looking at this tape there is nothing that I could really point to and say, I don't like that. I mean this guy can in can really do it. Also the biggest thing I saw right out the gate, he has a nasty Gene. This guy's not happy until he puts the guy he's blocking on his back. He finishes blocks he has great dry block technique. He does a good job of making contact with power. And then keep running his feet until his man's finished. What I also liked is that on on down blocks where the play is going off of him.

30:37 He does a great job of spreading the holes so he's not just blocking the man in his Gap. He's moving moving. The defender out of the Gap, creating a bigger hole for the running back to get through. That's the biggest things. I like from a technique perspective, when I was looking at his, his film on huddle, I didn't see a ton of past Pro because the offense that he is in high school, they run a lot of wing T and Pro Set and occasionally will go to like a Spread spread option, run offense, when they go and shotgun but they don't do a ton of passing but I did go and look at some of his rival camps tape and he's got a really good pass set. He has a great great punch.

31:20 So he stops the, the momentum of the defender. So moves his feet. Well, so I like I said, really, there's nothing that I could say bad about it, especially as a prospect coming coming out of high school. Let me ask this concerning. You talk about the nasty Gene and finishing blocks. When you see, or when you coached guys, who wouldn't finish blocks unlike this guy? What's, what is where does that concern? You where it's not a concern for this guy, but maybe there's some other guys were recruiting that. You don't see that what concerns you when you don't see a guy. Finishing, I think the big thing is that you don't want a guy that's just going to get to his spot and be be happy with with area blocking a guy because eventually that guy's going to keep going and try to make a play Down feel. Now, when you're talking about a guy, that's finishing a Blog that means, they are taking that player out of making a potential tackle, whether it's at the point of attack or whether it's 10 or 15 yards downfield.

32:14 So if he's finishing the block that means that guy is not able to make a play. Something else as an offensive line coach, not seeing you saw the tape, you said you felt good about the way he looked and Rivals Camp but does it still give you some worry about? Not seeing a guy with a lot of live action pass Pro where I do say in these camps you think he can kind of see what's coming where compared to in a live game if they run a stunt or if they run Slants little different than knowing? Well this guy's either going to try a bull or he's going to try. You know, bending get underneath me. Does that concern you? Or is it more? He so refined that the running aspects, he's such a. You see plays hard?

32:59 He come in. This is what we can work on. Well, he seems to be a guy with a high football IQ from the tape. I'm watching, it doesn't look like he's ever out of position or anything like that. So, I'm thinking he can pick up on past pass protection, call nature, that that would come into play if there are those stunts and inputs, but yeah, you're right. There is the CERN of this guy probably hasn't seen a ton, a ton of of looks where guys are coming it from multiple angles at him so that that could be an area of concern. But just looking at the tape when you're looking at these Rebel camps, generally the drills do kind of favor the defensive lineman more, because there's more room to work than there would be in a normal game situation.

33:46 And also most of the time, you know, the Your nose, either the snap or can anticipate the snap? It's not like a live game, so offensive. Lineman is a lot easier in those situations and he's still out there handling. Some of the guys that are Elite at that defensive end position, so that gives me encouragement. So, like I said, the biggest thing is going to be, can he figure out those calls on the Fly and I think you can based on just looking at his as tapings and knowing that I think he's a guy that can pick up things pretty quick, right? Thanks for educating us on, you know about always someone to take some things that are done. Those camps. So when we look at it we get an idea to say okay doing the right things or the guys were looking at are doing the right things. Alright next number one corner in the country. Tony Grimes Princess Day in Virginia, six foot 180. Sounds like a perfect corner to me. What do you see from The Joker?

34:41 You know, he's think they might be the Joker with this kid is no joke on the feet. He has a nose for the football and that's what we like to see in her. Nation. That's what the lunch pail defense has always been about. That's what Beamer ball is. Always been about news for the football, and once he gets the turnover he loves to take it to the house. He's not somebody that's going to settle with just getting the turnover and you know, first Contact he's going down, he's trying to get into the end zone so that that's what we like to see. He's got a great blend of size and speed. I know you kind of talked about the, the size there in the speed, is there as well. He's, he's both fast and quick which is what you like to see because he can move, Move move laterally, he's got fluid hip, so you can change direction. Well, he lined up all over the secondary on his high school team Corner, nickel safety.

35:32 So he's a very versatile Defender which is what we've been talking about. We like to see some versatility guys, being able to, you know, attack for multiple positions. The guys being able to Blitz from the corner position Blitz, from the safety, Blitz from the nickel. So, this is a guy that can do that for us. Good at, said, in the edge in the Run in a willing tackle when it when the scheme is calling for him to set the edge, he does a good job of squeezing the Gap and enforcing the action back inside, so he doesn't get get pinned in to get some. Let some of those big runs get to the edge. He played a lot of offense to so that means he's probably got some pretty good hands which means if the ball is thrown in his Direction and he's there, he's going to catch it.

36:13 He's got to make that play. Yeah, everything I saw he was really great in man. Coverage. He gets in the receivers pocket and stays there when he does, occasionally get full, he recovers. Well, think about think about a Kindle Fuller when when he did get fooled, what did he do? So well, he got to the recovery spot and was still able to make a play on the ball. And that's what, that's what Tony crimes does when he does get fooled. But again, from what I'm seeing on tape, that's of, that's a very rare occasion as well. So nothing but good things about him. And I think think we're going to see some Some really, really incredible, play from him, whether we end up Landing or we go somewhere else. All right, where do you want to play? If he commits to Virginia, Tech, he's definitely Corner, maybe eventually a boundary Corner.

37:04 Ha ha. Hey, all right. But but you see from him day one, if whether it be germane Waller, Caleb Farley, I don't, I think one of those guys will be there next year. I don't think both, but you see them coming in competing. ASAP with the respect of other side of the corner. He's that good. He's that technically sound. He's that much of an elite player where similar to Kendall Fuller brand and face on coming in freshman playing right away and contributing right away, he's too good. Not to have him on the field. A good majority of the snaps on defense, it's awesome that you're probably going to be doing yourself a disservice, not getting him out there. That's great to hear.

37:49 All right, let's go with the last guy on your list, frying, treyvion Henderson down at Hopewell in the 80 4511. 195 is he every every offensive lineman's dream to block for. Yeah, he's the guy that you know, patient at the point of attack and reads us blocks well, so he's not just going in there. Whatever is aiming. Is you know, sticking it in there and sometimes you know as offensive lineman things change at the snap of the ball and he's he does a very good job of changing with that going with the blocks reading those blocks, and then just exploding through the whole once it opens up, he's got home run speed. Once he's at the second level, which is what we like to see. We like to hit those long play as we like to make some big plays on offense, he's great at making people miss. So he runs through arm tackles and he's good at turning. Nothing into something, which I think is sometimes important for us, especially with, with the scheme that we have. There's going to occasionally be penetration and he does a good job of making people miss and finding the lame or the alley. Even when you know that point of attack gets shut down. Great, it changed Direction and accelerating. He was also used in the slot a lot for his high school. So you know, I think you're

39:19 going to see a guy that has the ability to do is Swing passes screens, run a wheel route, things like that, he's a guy that can definitely is used to catching the ball. He also ran some of the, the Wildcat formations for them and go live situations, or short, yardage situations. So he's comfortable. With the ball in his hands at the snap as well. There wasn't a ton of highlights showing your straight up the gut run. So I'm not sure how he is kind of, on those inside zones, in between the outside shoulder of the Guard threw into the center. They, mostly were running some outside Zone and sweeps and things of that nature. So, he did run more inside when he was with the wild cat stuff on the short yardage.

40:07 So, in those aspects, you know, you know, you can run up in those a gaps and get the job done. Done. But I did see a ton of that when they were running their more traditional offensive sets, let me ask this with him. Working in the slot is something that we can use to our advantage and recruiting talking about the jet sweeps. I mean, is that something to say, trivia on you come here you're going to get the carries from the backfield, but we're going to give you an opportunity to hear your first year to you're going to be our slot. You can be one of our slot, guys, taking some of those sweets, and you talked about talked about a couple times, As when those sweeps are blocked correctly, a guy with home runs feed. Good night.

40:51 Exactly. And I, you know, I like the points you make there because I think that's going to be something where if we're not in a situation where we can say, hey, we can guarantee you're going to be our number one, a bag, but they're definitely going to get some carries. You're going to be, at least a few, have a featured role of the offense, even if it's not something that is that, you know, one a roll. So I think that's going to be key in terms of trying to get him to stay home. I see so Brian can can we land all four of these guys? I think we can. I think we have the potential to do that. Now we are getting some Some major run on, especially on Grimes.

41:36 And on in, on Henderson Clemson's, making a big push, it Henderson and George's down there is, is pushing really hard for Tony. So those are going to be our two biggest, our two, biggest opponents for the, the top two guys there. I think we've got a really, really good chance at the Quan Brown. Interestingly, I think those are the guys that I feel really comfortable with us being able to close the deal on How important is it to getting the first Domino to fall to Landing all for getting one of these guys become it. Let's say between now in the middle of summer, how big would that be to Landing off of work? I think that would go a long way because it would build on what the kind of that momentum that we got with Demetrius committed. We would start building seeing some of that tidal wave start pushing in our direction.

42:32 And, you know, people, Start saying, you know, it's not just a one-off. We've got all these big names are starting to say, hey, I want to go to Blacksburg and make something special happen this year. Now, I'll throw this one at you man. Do you think if we land at least two of these guys, is that good enough? No, it shouldn't be good enough Lanie to shouldn't be good enough. All four should be the target. These are four guys in state that we've recruited what it appears to be very well. So far, each position was, let's just kind of go through each position, always need Edge rushers, Right.

43:13 Oh absolutely. You don't have enough of them. Yeah Tristan Lee, he's an offensive tackle and some people say that's our strength. We have a lot of really good players there. One of those really good players is Christian day, assault Christian Daris all has another season, like he did his first two, he will not be around, twenty Twenty-One, he will be in the NFL. I agree. Tony grab. It's a similar situation for Tony if Jermaine and Caleb continue their Trend one, if not both of those guys will be in the NFL next year. And there it is. It's you want to start. Here's your Prime opportunity in treyvion Henderson. We don't have a 1A back. Even this year, we're looking at Herbert in probably King Herbert's going after next year. So the Playtime is there.

43:59 I don't see this as a situation where it's worth, so loaded at any of these four positions that that should be on the table. Blanding for should be the Target and I'll probably be dissatisfied as we land just to, okay. And okay, man. Yeah, can I can I throw a little little factoid that you though? Go for it. All right, so just throw it through this out there. When was the last time we landed? At least two of the top five prospects in the state of Virginia. Well hasn't been recently, um I'd say 07 tie rod. All right, so it was actually 2009 was the last time So that was Logan and David.

44:42 Hold on. You aren't married. I weren't married. We had no kids. We didn't have houses. Yeah, that's a long time ago. Yes. So this isn't a recent Trend with us not being able and that the top five talent in the state. This is something that goes back a while we landed. We actually had back-to-back years, 2008 and 09, we did land two of the top five players in the state and then we haven't been able to do But since I think before that, I can't remember the last time we land at more than two to be honest with you, I wasn't able to find the stats on that. So if we end up letting 4E with, you wouldn't just be you know, really damn good.

45:23 It would be something that's pretty much unprecedented in the last at least, 15 years of hokey football history. So while it's definitely something that we want to set as a goal and try to achieve, it would be Fairly unprecedented from if we were able to pull it off. But I think we could probably go back and look how many times has it been four guys at Fourth various positions? It's not like two defensive backs or two running backs where we're not gonna get both of these guys. And I really think if I'm going to say this, in the sense of college, football, ACC football wheel, and all four of these guys and take back the state, the way, we're starting to create a nation wide footprint down into Texas.

46:07 If you guys haven't seen the last few days, we're making offers two guys in California. Which is just unprecedented for what we've done throughout our lifetime as fans but to take back your state in to that could say something not only do the kids in state, but potentially to a more Nationwide audience of you don't go in there and take the top dogs. If they've got spots where they can play, you're not going to get them. So that's what I'd like to see happen and essentially get back to where we were 03 04, 05 a week. Pretty much if we wanted them and they were in state. They weren't leaving. Exactly. Exactly.

46:48 So we'll move on. So, we're going to throw out a Twitter poll. And the question is going to be because of all the Elite Talent hospitalized in the state of Virginia this year. Are you more likely to go see a high school football game? Where one of these guys are playing and not just the guys, we discussed. But there are guys all over the state so respond to us. Tell us. Yeah, tell us where tell us, who you look forward to seeing on that. Well that's going to wrap up this episode of The Boundary Corner podcast will let our buddy. Jason Long play us out. We always ask you guys check him out on Spotify and apple music. Eric, my name is Curtis Wilson, I'm Brian secretly. Thank you guys for listening.

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