OFSN 102: Basic Staff Alignment & Assignment

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The fields for the dirt.
We don't even grow has been my

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more than just cleaning shit
off.

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You'll stay cool.
This house is falling down.

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The base Bellas are poking out.
It can ramble mother mold of

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Steel.
This stuck in a trap.

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.

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This is Curtis Wilson in my
co-host.

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Brian Siegel.
How's it going guys?

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I'm going well today man.
You know, working having a

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typical beginning of the week
stuff man.

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How about you man?
That's too bad.

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It's kind of quiet day on the
floor here today so I can't

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complain, man, you're good
weekend.

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Oh no.
Terrible weekend.

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My wife was sick.
This week ended.

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So Was like me you know playing
defense with my two boys all

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weekend.
Not enjoyable she's feeling

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better now, that's good.
Yeah yeah and you know like your

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wife both our wives our
teachers, boundary Corner

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listeners, they're off today so
you know one of those

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strategically placed holidays
especially for your wife, coming

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off the coming up the illness
day.

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Exactly and well deserved for
all of our teachers out there.

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So you know, how about you, you
getting too much this weekend,

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man?
It was like there was a quiet

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weekend at the sequel household,
though, we did have my mom came

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in yesterday, had some lunch and
just hung out for a few hours

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before they headed back but
yeah, it was kind of quiet,

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nothing to complain about.
So I'll take it real nice math.

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Well, you know just chilling
running back and forth between

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my Kids, the older one playing a
videogame, the smaller one

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watching Blaze so much, we go
out.

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The can Phillips absolutely is
blowing up in the XFL, man.

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He is tearing it up.
We had a hat trick of touchdowns

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last night from this man first
game.

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He was beaten guys deep in this
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He was the the Red Zone threat.
So he's showing that he can, he

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can kind of do a little bit of
everything.

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He's something like what now?
He's like, what?

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Thirteen catches a hundred, you
know, 25 plus yards four

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touchdowns.
Yeah you know I hope you can

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Phillips you know one of those
great players with us had that

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season in 2017.
We really shine got drafted by

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the bills made it there, a
couple of years and then kind of

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faded off.
But I'm going to tell you what

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I'm seeing, just the way he's
playing.

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He's going to get a call in
April.

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Yeah, he's going to catch on.
Leave her be all the 90-day

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somewhere and not the naughty
man somewhere and I think, you

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know, we'll see what goes from
there.

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But you know, I think he's doing
too much in the XFL not to at

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least get a phone call in a
whoop for a week or so and

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somebody's can no doubt.
And you know this is kind of

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what I'm hoping the XFL can be
like guys like cam who we follow

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our Hokies, but you seem kind of
like he can do it, but in the

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end you seem get drafted, excuse
me.

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Picked up as a, you know, non
drafted free agent and he sticks

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with the team for a couple
years.

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And it's like, he's one of those
guys that's going to benefit

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from this, because the way I
kind of see the XFL.

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It's, it's just a slight Notch
above, most Collegiate football,

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but it's not in the realm of the
NFL.

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So for guys, like cam, like
Ricky, who's on a team?

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It's a chance to say, hey, I can
play for.

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Give me a couple years to
develop.

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I've got a good analogy for
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Kind of I think the XFL looks
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Kind of looks like an entire
season of what that fourth

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preseason game is for a lot of
these players where they get

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maybe 1/2 two, maybe three
quarters to kind of, kind of

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show out where now they've got a
whole season in this league to

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show what they're capable of and
you're going to start seeing,

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you know, you get more tape on
the guy than you might say.

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Okay, well, let's give him a
little bit more reps in practice

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when we bring them into Kansas,
go round, or something like

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that.
So, I think those those are with

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benefits are going to be.
Yeah.

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And, and definitely for, you
know, cam Phillips, the Hokie

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alumni.
He's doing the most with it.

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And so, let's see in April, if
he does get signed to a roster,

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something on last episode guys,
we missed didn't mean to.

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But I think we were, so we
mentioned his name.

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But we were so deep into
recruiting and portal and the

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guys who are going to be here is
Dalton King.

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Got the combo, Scramble got the
combat invite.

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Good for him Braun, you know you
can be in the football guy.

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It's there a spot for Dalton
Keenan, two days in FL.

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Yes, I think there's definitely
going to be a spot for him.

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I'm not sure if he's going to be
that guy that you're going to

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see getting, you know, 80% of
the snaps for a team.

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I don't think he's gonna be that
guy at the NFL level, but I

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definitely think he's going to
be a contributor.

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I think he's got some potential.
Shal on special teams even

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though he didn't do a ton of
special teams with the Hokies

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just his frame is athletic
ability and his ability to block

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him face.
I think you're going to see a

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lot of specialty Mews by him and
I think because of his kind of

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Versatility as an offensive
player that's going to be a guy

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that you want to keep his, maybe
your third or fourth tight end

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on your roster that can do some
stuff from the HVAC roll on top

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of may be contributing on
special teams now, I know

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people.
We're going to definitely look

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at what.
Did he run?

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40 wise, I want to see his
20-yard comb because the one

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thing if you noticed about
Dalton playing a lot of sudden,

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a lot of those angle routes.
Yeah, lot of the pot passes, I

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think his 20-yard cone is going
to tell something to a lot of

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teams because I think if it few
runs it well, like I think he is

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because I think he has some
flexibility in his frame.

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I think that's going to tell
people to saying, look how

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flexible is he's going to be
that guy.

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Like we're running an outside
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We can put them at that age back
and he can kind Of Swing his way

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through the garden, The Tackle,
and get to the second level.

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That's gonna be the drill.
I think that is going to show

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for him that if he does well
you're going to see him getting

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drafted day three.
Yeah and he's blocking in space

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was really good as well and I
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another thing that we're going
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and watch a lot of tape on him
is his ability to block in Space

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is really good.
Definitely I'd say Pop in that

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area yet.
Definitely not Elite in the in

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line blocking, but I think as
far as his ability to block in

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space, either in a lead role, or
split out, and get into the

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second level against the
linebacker or safety, he's

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definitely someone that can
contribute their absolutely one

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other thing that Dalton kind of
made a splash within the last

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week or so here, I'm going to
read the Tweet out Brian.

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He made this back on the 7th.
Concerning some people

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discussing for Wednesday in the
twittersphere and this was D.

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Cute /, quote went a, is a coach
to demands 100% out of his

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players every day.
I don't think that makes it a

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toxic environment at all.
And to be honest, I wouldn't

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want to play for a coach that
would settle for less.

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If you're not 100% in, then get
100% out of the program.

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You know, I again the -
twittersphere going on and kind

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of Alton answered.
And guys, like Daris all and

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some other folks, kind of
replicated and kind of gave him

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the yep.
That's it guys.

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So that first blood or First
Blood Part 2 first Blood that's

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the original.
That's the original.

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The cuz you know if he goes he
said his piece and I appreciate

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that.
I appreciate the players you

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know, coming in and you know
trying to make put the

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Programming the light that they
feel it.

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It should be in the said of some
of the, the more toxic Corners

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that we see in this, in the
twittersphere, and I mean for,

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there's always going to have a
negative element to it.

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But yeah, I feel like sometimes
the, you know, we get the loud

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voices coming from the smallest
percentage and I feel like it's

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sometimes nice to have the
players step up and put some of

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that to rest.
Absolutely.

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And their voices are definitely
going to be the voices that

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these recruits can.
More than just fans and other

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folks in the hook Universe.
Speaking of the Hokey Universe,

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kind of a big thing happened in
the RV, a today form a defensive

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tackle for the Hokies, Jonathan
Lewis who had five year NFL

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career.
He was named defensive

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coordinator out at piranha
Verano, who had kind of been

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down for a year for years.
Thanks to Highland Springs.

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Sprung back up, made the state.
Ship game beat Highland Springs

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on their way.
There lost a Maury.

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I like this as I mean Louis
played with, you know, Darryl

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Tapp new defensive line coach
Darryl Tapp so again, people are

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talking about, let's cultivate
the 8004 and it's cultivate

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Virginia.
Now, you got somebody down here,

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who is obviously helping build
the program back up.

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What's your takes on that?
Braun, it's gonna be nice.

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Obviously, having some People
out in the no.4 and especially

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at a program like Veronica that
not only has you know some

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current high-profile wins but
also has a big-time history of

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winning in the eighth of for so
I mean, it's going to be nothing

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but positive.
I feel so therefore in terms of

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recruiting in general and the
804 in terms of recruiting from,

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I hope you perspective in
particular, so I see nothing but

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good things coming from this.
Especially from a hockey fan

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perspective.
Yeah, I mean because you

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Jonathan out there.
Obviously Sam Rogers took over

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Hanover announced a couple
months ago, Lauren Johnson out

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of Holland Springs.
All the Thailand Springs now is

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to appoint.
They're producing so much

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talent.
The Hokies have sworn.

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It Mystic quite a few of them
but a lot of guys they missed

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that are going to significantly,
you know, your top 10 program

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which is where we want to get
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So, you know, a guys that the
talents here don't be afraid to

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get it.
Don't be afraid to use the

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connections yet me, we got, you
know, if that work at the 757.

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And I think, you know, we need
to tap into the data for a

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little bit more because we did
Miss on a couple guys that were

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looking for from the Greater
Richmond area and it'd be nice

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to start start laying some of
them guys, again, absolutely,

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and 2021 is a big year, it is
not only Talent Rich down in the

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757, but it's time.
Rich in 804 just a land rich in

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Nova.
This is a big year for Virginia

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and I know probably in some
future episodes guys were going

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to be breaking down.
You know what we're looking

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like, 20 21 was probably in
state and probably Bryan taking

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a look at tape me, taking the
look at positional, like how are

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we looking at the bees positions
inside Hokie nation and saying

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we're going to go after this guy
like because for example, if the

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depth chart is absolutely full,
you know what What will make us

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lose form, but we're not going
to go head over heels because

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you've got a bunch of guys that
can play.

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It's a tough sell.
Well, you got that in.

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You also have with a crop of
talent.

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Like the the 2021 town is
looking like both in state and

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within our recruiting footprint.
I definitely think that we're

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going to go for guys that we
know.

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We can get a man, we can get
them, get them on the field, you

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know, if If not you're one year
to and definitely build up that

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not necessarily go after guys
just to stack it one position

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just because it's there.
Absolutely I'm something else.

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I've noticed really these last
few days the Virginia Tech

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football Twitter account has
really I want to say stepped.

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It's in game up trying to show
culture, show personality.

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I'm sure.
Braun.

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Did you?
I'm going to go buy eat Each one

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of these, make sure you've seen
them because I have.

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Did you see the Fuente girl Dad
drop?

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Yeah.
That that one, actually.

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I'd say impressed me the most
and the thing that aside from

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the content, the thing that
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how relaxed for what they seem
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to the video, listen to is
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that video than any pressure.
I've seen any other Media that's

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been dropped out.
He seemed like he was really

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just talking the way he talks
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nothing seemed, you know,
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that's going to be that's going
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any nation in my opinion just
because it seemed relaxed and it

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seemed authentic.
Yeah, it did seem 100% authentic

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talking about his girls there
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dad.
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investment in the program he
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back to Remember, the Titans and
Hayden Panettiere each

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character.
Like, I pictured, him walking in

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and like his oldest daughter,
jumping on him about play and

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like, okay.
But yeah, I loved it.

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The other one, the Doug Masters,
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Hey man, if Mom has like
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if Mama signing off as it is and
to someone of nesters caliber,

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dog was a top 10.
Player he had committed to Ohio

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State.
He had kind of held our visit

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kind of in the bag for a while
and because if you kind of hear

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that video was he kind of knew
that if I go there, I know

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what's going to happen and he
waited and he went and it wasn't

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long.
He flipped.

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kind of reshaping.
This is the culture.

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This is what we are loved it.
One of the cool things that just

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dropped very recently.
Was it looks like they are

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putting up the new locker room
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Yes and in the words of
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and I love it because it gives
the guys name and where they're

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from and I think they used Grace
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For the 757 James Mitchell fixed
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In felt for the 276 and then
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At the 336 and those are, that's
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in the middle of those for area
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We did Miss in Northern
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you can probably see more that
but I like in a like something

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like that.
It's kind of showing your here.

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Now with this is where you came
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Yeah.
And it's showing that you come

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from different places.
Once you're here, you're here,

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you're hokey or oq for life.
Life.

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This is home.
Just it's all about absolutely.

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And the last piece, and it's
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what we're going to be talking
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four to five minute feature.
On the four new coaches here

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between Tracy claeys, built
turtleneck Ryan Smith who's

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younger than us, which makes me
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age, which yeah that's Cool.
I'll take especially especially

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meaning Darrell few years ago
again here in those guys talk

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and I don't know again it just
made you feel good and I know

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there's a lot of negativity.
We can you look for optimism and

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what really struck me.
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And it was the way bills
cheering installed, you could

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kind of hear, it wasn't, it was
very authentic in his voice

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about.
Yeah, the NFL something and it's

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great, but it's something about
the right place, the right

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people and what you're trying to
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And to me that says something
because Bill turn, it could get

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a job at any NFL team.
He wants, he can his dad's The

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Godfather, he is shown that he
can do that and then he came

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here what else did you get from
that video?

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Empty several things.
I'll be I'm glad you pointed out

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the chilling piece there.
I mean, he's talking about, you

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know, it's not just what you're
doing, but who you're doing it

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with what you're doing, is what
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So I think that's that's the big
piece for him.

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I think just in general it was
great hearing directly from

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these new staffers about just
hearing stories about what

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they've done before or, you
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So it was good to hear it
directly directly from them, I

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think.
Like that.

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But like you've been pointing
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of been clamoring for a little
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We don't necessarily need to
know everything that's

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happening, but if we can just,
you know, get a little closer,

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don't keep us as much at arm's
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You know, will definitely
Embrace that a lot more.

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So I think that's the big thing.
It seems like everybody's

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excited to be in the building
and I think, you know, they want

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to do something want to build
something new with.

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They also want to honor the
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come before them.
So I think that's big And just

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how they all seem to be talking
about jehan's energy and hard

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work, and how that kind of was a
big attracting factor for them

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and why they're there.
So I think that that's, that's

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the big things.
The big takeaways that I have

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absolutely.
Well, we've opened up went

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through some things for the
remainder of the show.

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This is kind of what we're
looking at today.

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Guys.
We're going to be looking at the

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staff itself.
Obviously, yet for new guys, we

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just discussed there were some
Al going guys.

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Some of those are going guys,
rub people, the wrong way, the

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way he let go.
There's some staff changes,

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clearly John's mooching J Hamm
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as well.
We're going to discuss that

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along with these new guys in
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So before we go any further,
we've got to stop here and we've

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got to start with the outgoing
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All right, so obviously the
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legendary.
Gary Bud.

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Foster to me the greatest
defensive coordinator in the

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history of college football.
No doubt, you know it was big

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but it was known luckily but
didn't pull anybody strings.

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He came out in August in
announced it sort of got the

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team and the staff a chance to
hate looks.

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This is how we're going to look
in the future and kind of revert

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back to why the 2020 doesn't
look great?

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Well, when you don't have a name
defensive coordinator stuff when

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going to hurt You know, I don't
know what else to say on bud,

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Brian.
You and I were lucky enough.

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We were at the pit game.
We were at his last game in Lane

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Stadium pitching.
The shutout, the defense that

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day.
Played unbelievable.

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It was a fun time in the rain.
It wasn't.

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It was a fun time.
In the rain.

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We were at the perfect spot
though.

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We were at that.
Right.

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Out of the rain we would have
been to Rosedale.

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We would have been soaked.
We are right out of the rain but

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I mean but losing Bud hurts.
I mean he'd been on the staff

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since you know, since we were
like in diapers got the

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defensive coordinator title back
in the mid-90s and then ran with

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it for the next 20 plus years.
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those defenses in the mid-2000s
man if we had any semblance of

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an offense in 05, 06 or 07.
Yeah.

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If we could have just been You
know above average in that

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category, you're talking about
some some serious, some serious

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winds there and that's on top of
you know having having a run

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there that was better than you
know most of the the top 10

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programs that were talking about
trying to get back to.

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So you know it's it's something
you know, there's some there's

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some Coulda woulda's in there
but at the same time you gotta

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appreciate what he was able to
do while he was there and just

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glad that we got to experience.
That Rod pretty much from start

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to finish.
Yeah we did our age group.

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Definitely did let me throw this
at you.

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Should he be the leading
individual as to put

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coordinators into the College
Football Hall of Fame?

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There's none in there right now,
but as you remember during the

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announcement and people are
like, you've got to put them in

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there.
He changed the way the game is

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played, the way people look at
coordinators, you know?

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There's obviously some other
guys, I feel like I cannot think

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of The guy's name, but the like
Switzer's OC, who brought the

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wishbone to Oklahoma, some of
Bears defensive, those guys

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deserve to be in there and I'm
hoping with him being younger

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guy, you know.
And it's, you know, in his early

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60s I'm really hoping overall
that they can get the benefit

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and say, we're going to put
these guys in, we're going to

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put a wing for the coordinators
in the position, coaches, who,

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you know, had coaches are great.
But if you don't have these guys

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on certain teams, these You
know, these guys aren't as great

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as they seem.
And, yeah, there's guys that

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innovate in the the college
football world that aren't

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necessarily guys, that would
make good head, coaches or

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interested in becoming head
coaches.

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But that doesn't discount how
they impacted the teams.

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They were part of because of the
be, they were bringing

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innovative ideas to the
Forefront.

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Now those, those head coaches
were certainly, you know, they

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in their wisdom.
They saw, let's Embrace these

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new ideas But you know, let's
give some credit to the guys

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that are either taking what was
already there and building upon

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it or kind of coming up with
some of these these schemes

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themselves.
So, I think that there's

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definitely a wing there that
needs to be dedicated to these

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these coordinators that they
really change the game in a lot

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of ways.
Absolutely.

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So there's our first big loss
when you about that ahead of

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time.
The next one and the one that

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rubbed people the wrong way was
the letter.

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Go Charlie walls, Charlie.
Who had been with the program?

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You know, since 96?
So significantly long was

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advised, he wasn't going to be
returned.

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Now, the way conversations go,
he was given the option to coach

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the bowl game.
He didn't want to do that.

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That's his choice.
Give me what your take is on,

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Charlie.
I love Charlie.

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I thought he always coach guys,
up.

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Good, never met him, but why do
you think Charlie was all in?

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All that go?
Now, I think the biggest thing

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is that, you know, and we'll
talk about this more as we get

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to the new defensive staff.
But I think just with a younger

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coordinator, I think we were
moving to more of a younger more

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energetic staff.
I mean, I just think that that

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that's that's the direction that
we were heading.

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And I think because of that, he
was pretty much kind of put to

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Charlie.
Hey, we're heading in this

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direction.
Do you want to coach in the bowl

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game to go out with bud?
Or do you want to go ahead and

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pack it in and, and call it a
day?

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Unfortunately, you know, he
decided he wanted to take that

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latter option, which I don't, I
don't begrudge him but I'm sad

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that that Hokie Nation didn't
get to see him in, but kind of

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go out at the same time, because
I think I've been pretty special

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thing to see agreed and Charlie,
clearly, I think Maybe one

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reason he did that was to get a
jump on his next Endeavor, and

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he is down at NC State now.
So going to be recruiting

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against him.
He's got a friend down there

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now, too.
Absolutely.

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Yeah.
Brian Mitchell.

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Quarterbacks coach also, let go
also down at State again.

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Don't know enough about
Mitchell, but he was let go.

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You know, I mean I kind of this
is this is the with what we

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ended up seeing.
I think this was definitely a

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push to get a guy with Northern
Virginia ties.

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And you know, in-state born,
born and bred Virginian and

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house for that position.
I just think that that's, that's

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ultimately, what would led to be
Mitch being being let go there?

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I think we kind of had a couple
ideas in mind and I think both

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of them were going to be
Virginia Natives and ultimately,

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you know, Ryan Smith is who we
ended up.

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Getting at the quarterback spot,
but I feel like that's kind of

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the direction we were heading.
And that, unfortunately, put

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could be met on the outs there.
Yeah, and again, down at state.

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So again, going to be recruited
against him.

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Last got let go on Zone burdens
on hasn't landed anywhere else

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and that's some me and you were
kind of shocked about because,

447
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when he was originally, let go
were, like not shot was a part

448
00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:21,700
of the old staff but we were
like, oh, do you Campton

449
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,300
somebody within the first couple
was fourth in the first month of

450
00:26:25,308 --> 00:26:27,100
probably pick him up?
You know, known as a good

451
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:32,000
recruiter but he hasn't so yeah,
that was a big shock to both of

452
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,900
us.
I mean I thought that definitely

453
00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:37,200
for sure, one of the seven, five
seven programs were picked him

454
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,600
up.
Whether you know Division, 1 or

455
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,500
Division 1 double a one of those
schools down there was going to

456
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:44,500
was going to scoop him up for at
least two position roll.

457
00:26:44,500 --> 00:26:47,800
If not offensive coordinator
look, and it just didn't come to

458
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,100
fruition.
So it's very interesting how

459
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:52,700
that went on.
So we're going to move onto.

460
00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:56,900
Those are the guys out inside
the Graham, there were some

461
00:26:56,900 --> 00:27:00,100
staff changes.
Obviously, the biggest was

462
00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:06,000
Justin Hamilton going from the
safeties coach to defensive

463
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,200
coordinator.
Justin 38 years old?

464
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,100
You run, you did a little more
for folks that don't know

465
00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:15,900
Justin.
He you know, there's a lot of

466
00:27:15,908 --> 00:27:17,500
stuff in Prime did a little
digging on them.

467
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:22,300
So Brian just kind of what you
found out by researching.

468
00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:25,200
All right so I mean we obviously
got to Southwest Virginia.

469
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,800
Native coming in Into the
defensive coordinator role,

470
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,600
which I think is a big thing,
both for the state.

471
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,500
And for the school, there's been
a big Push by both the fan base

472
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:39,700
and alumni to really start.
Looking at Virginia will be

473
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:42,000
closed and I think this is
definitely a concerted effort to

474
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,700
really get back on that in-state
recruiting wagon and starting

475
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:50,400
scoring some of those those
bigger bigger fish from the 757,

476
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,300
804 Northern Virginia.
Yeah I think that's the biggest

477
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:58,500
thing that we're talking about.
Just about Justin in general.

478
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:02,600
I mean, any hockey fans going to
know the use of versatile.

479
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,500
Use a versatile player, he was a
team first, guy low ego, you

480
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:11,000
know, play three or four
positions, whatever was needed

481
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,100
of him.
He was, he was willing to step

482
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:18,300
in and get it done.
You know, I think again 38.

483
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,600
So we're talking about bringing
in a coordinator.

484
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,000
That's going to be young
energetic, but he's got that

485
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000
hokey blood in and he's got that
lunch pail.

486
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,600
In him.
So I think you're going to see a

487
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,100
blend of the old.
It was some, maybe some new

488
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:38,200
ideas and some new new ways of
attacking off, that may help us

489
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,500
especially when it comes to
things like containing

490
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:45,300
quarterback runs which have kind
of been the Bugaboo for our

491
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:48,900
defense, despite all of the
successes through in our

492
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:51,300
history.
So I think we might see some

493
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:56,000
some new things from him that
might try to address that he was

494
00:28:56,100 --> 00:29:01,700
the coordinator UVa-Wise coach
outside linebackers of Emi and

495
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:05,900
then I was to from Virginia Tech
perspective as a member of the

496
00:29:05,908 --> 00:29:08,000
staff.
He's been you had an on-field

497
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,600
and all field presidency at
player Personnel position when

498
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,100
he first came on and now he's
coaching the safeties.

499
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:19,700
So I mean I think we're really
getting a really big asset for

500
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:22,300
us.
You know, there is some some

501
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,500
fear because of the unknown
because we don't know what he

502
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:27,500
looks like.
Defensive coordinator at the

503
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:32,500
power 5 level.
But in terms of intangibles, in

504
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:36,200
terms of football IQ, and in
terms of just being able to

505
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,700
build relationships with players
and with the community, I don't

506
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:42,000
think there's anybody, that we
could have found better.

507
00:29:42,700 --> 00:29:45,600
Yeah, I agree in the football,
like, you is the big piece.

508
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,800
A lot of people, you know, while
we were supposed to get some

509
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,400
million-dollar coordinator yada
yada, but then you kind of talk

510
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,800
and say, you realize this guy
went from playing Running back

511
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,500
to receiver to flipping and
playing safety for two years,

512
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:02,200
then getting drafted and playing
in the NFL for three years.

513
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,700
Before he hurt his knee, do you
know the amount of intelligence

514
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:08,400
and takes to do that to say oh
yeah you're going to learn this.

515
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,700
Well then you're going to learn
this.

516
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:11,900
Now we need you to completely do
something different and learn

517
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:15,000
this and become so good at it.
That you go to the highest part

518
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,100
of your profession and I stay
one year, but make it three

519
00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:20,800
years and probably would've been
longer if not for the injury.

520
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:24,000
And when you think of folks like
that in my opinion, that's why

521
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,700
when they named I'm like Is
first of all the Hokey through

522
00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:30,600
and through.
But how smart you have to be

523
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,800
run, you play offensive line and
you switch positions.

524
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,100
Occasionally to say, you're not
even switching, you're not even

525
00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,200
staying in your core group.
You're jumping from this group

526
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,900
and this group and now
completely other side of the

527
00:30:41,908 --> 00:30:44,600
ball in the intelligence.
It takes in the football.

528
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,200
Like you it takes there's going
to be probably things that he

529
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,200
can see that.
Not many players can see because

530
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:53,300
I've done this before.
Yeah.

531
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:57,000
There's always a benefit from
guys that were able to Play both

532
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,500
sides of the ball at a high
level just because I mean as a

533
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:06,500
as an offensive, lineman that
coach defensive tackles, you

534
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:09,200
know, I didn't just coach even
two tackles on technique and

535
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,800
things like that.
I also told him, hey, here's

536
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,600
what the offensive lineman is
going to do.

537
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:17,100
Here's how you can counter that.
Here's how you can negate that.

538
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,800
So, I mean there's bigger degree
of understanding.

539
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,000
There is not just scheme and
knowing where to be and what to

540
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,400
do.
But also, Okay.

541
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,400
Well if they throw this at you
knowing hey what's a good

542
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,800
counter punch.
Exactly.

543
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,900
And there's we think you can
probably see like that.

544
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:37,300
That again not many people have
that same view of.

545
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,000
Yeah, I'm really excited to see
what he's going to do.

546
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,500
I mean I like I said I don't
know at this point what changes

547
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:44,900
are going to look like?
I'm really looking forward to

548
00:31:44,900 --> 00:31:48,800
the spring game to really see
from a scheme perspective, how

549
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,500
much different this calls are
going to be relative to what we

550
00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:55,000
saw from bud.
Absolutely.

551
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Alright.
The second move was Adam like

552
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,900
them Berg was moved from the
associate head.

553
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:08,600
Coach to the running back coach.
Yeah, I heard about that.

554
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,100
You have some thoughts about
that.

555
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,800
God.
So I'm sitting here and they

556
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,600
would he was hired for the role
last year like, okay.

557
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,400
Okay.
This is going to be your game

558
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,200
manager.
I felt we'd like, we horribly

559
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,900
manage games this year, like, if
this is your job, To help coach

560
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:28,000
for Wednesday with the timeout
situations and down in distance.

561
00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:29,900
Oh my god.
There were times just like,

562
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:32,300
okay, called a timeout.
Why aren't we calling the

563
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:33,900
timeout?
Somebody get in his ear.

564
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:36,100
If that was his job, which you
kind of Wonder?

565
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:38,400
Is that your responsibility as
the ahc?

566
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,100
You know, it was terrible.
Also, we didn't know what his

567
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:46,200
responsibilities was, which is
in the tight-lipped part of the

568
00:32:46,208 --> 00:32:48,300
program, which we hate is like,
what are you doing?

569
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,900
His resume, doesn't in, you
know, excite me.

570
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,300
No, he did play it Nebraska in
the late 90s early 2000s when

571
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:04,700
they were a very good team under
solich but then like he was at

572
00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:09,500
it, he was a ga at Wayne State.
He was a G8 TCU during those

573
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:14,200
good years.
That's a ga not a position coach

574
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,900
nothing like that the ga 2010
and 2011.

575
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:21,100
He was a co-offensive
coordinator at Central

576
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,800
Connecticut University couldn't
tell you if that's D3.

577
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,900
Edie to in a.
I so clearly not, you know, one

578
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:34,400
day a or the highest level and
then 2012, he goes to Memphis as

579
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,900
the person will pursue director
of player Personnel much.

580
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:42,200
Like we've got Pearson Prelude,
now doing that for us, he had he

581
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,500
did a lot of stuff in that role
which is great.

582
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,900
Kind of get some different views
and stuff but he was not

583
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:52,800
immediately brought to Virginia
Tech by coach Fuente.

584
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,800
He went to UT And where he was
the passing game, coordinator

585
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,700
wide receiver coach and 16, then
he became the director of player

586
00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:05,800
personnel and 17 at Tech.
So, it's just not a to me, not

587
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,800
enthusiastic because I don't
know anything about it and My

588
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:15,500
Hope Is We blow up.
I'm hoping at in December, I get

589
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:18,500
to say, yeah, I was wrong.
This was the best running back

590
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:22,199
group, we've had since David
Wilson but I'm just so scared

591
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,199
because The background.
It's like what is he here for?

592
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,900
Yeah, I mean the biggest
positive that I see out of this

593
00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:33,199
right now is that?
I mean here's a here's a food

594
00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:39,199
guy, he's been in with went to a
it multiple stops at this point

595
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:42,699
and I think he's a guy that
probably knows what fun things

596
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:47,000
trying to do from an offensive
scheme perspective, maybe even

597
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,500
better than some of the coaches
we've had whether he can relay

598
00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:53,800
that information and Coach up
the the player.

599
00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:57,900
The way he needs to is, maybe
the the question mark we have at

600
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:01,100
this point because, you know,
based on his resume we don't

601
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:05,900
have a lot of big damage to to
Rally behind a success in this

602
00:35:05,900 --> 00:35:09,000
terms of the position itself, he
hasn't really cooked it.

603
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:13,000
So that that part is a little
disheartening, it is definitely

604
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,600
not something that I'm
enthusiastic about.

605
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,800
I'm I am glad from a recruiting
perspective that we still got

606
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,500
this guy and house because he
seems to do really well on the

607
00:35:21,508 --> 00:35:24,800
recruiting Trail.
So, If you're looking for a

608
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,800
silver lining going back to, I
know we talked about that a lot

609
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:33,400
back in the The Stone spring day
is like, yeah, you can't call

610
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,300
plays but that sumbitch can
recruit good.

611
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:07,900
Now 24 guys, me and Brian were
both excited about getting

612
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:11,600
hired.
I want to start with Ryan Smith.

613
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,600
The youngest of these for new
hires, I'm trying to do the

614
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,400
math.
I don't think Ryan Smith is 30

615
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:23,100
years old.
He is so young youth, but, um,

616
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:28,400
As I Look to his resume and kind
of the stuff he did, I see him

617
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,000
being young and I compare him to
like him Berg's resume and I

618
00:36:32,008 --> 00:36:35,500
love his just a few things about
Ryan Smith for everybody to

619
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:39,100
know.
Ryan Smith is a Virginia born

620
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:40,500
and bred Kid.
Born in King.

621
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:47,200
George Virginia went to William
and Mary is a defensive backs.

622
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,200
We played under Jimmy laycock,
laycock has a great track record

623
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,100
of his players, becoming
Excellent coaches.

624
00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:59,900
See Mike Tomlin the Pittsburgh
Steelers, see Sean McDermott

625
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,800
with the Buffalo Bills.
He was there for five years, he

626
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,700
graduated in 2014.
Also, he went away in and marry,

627
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:13,500
you just don't get into even
married to play football.

628
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:16,700
You literally have to be a
scholar athlete to get in there.

629
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:20,900
So, there is a clearly, a very
smart guy.

630
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:27,900
We have picked up here He
graduated 2014, he went down to

631
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:32,800
University, Texas.
San Antonio, as a ga from there,

632
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:39,200
15 and 16, he was at Penn State.
As a ga 16 was there Rose Bowl

633
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,400
season, one of the best seasons,
they've really had in the last

634
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,600
two decades.
I like us going to somebody that

635
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,100
went to Penn getting somebody
who's seen the inner workings of

636
00:37:50,107 --> 00:37:53,600
Penn State especially as much if
they poach from us for the last

637
00:37:53,700 --> 00:38:01,300
S couple of years after 16 2017,
and 2018 under Kirk dignity.

638
00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:05,800
He was down at E Line as their
secondary coach had some very

639
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,300
successful guys, down there a
couple guys to make all CAA

640
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:15,000
teams.
And in 2019, he actually was a

641
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,600
Walsh NFL fellowship with the
Green Bay Packers.

642
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:22,400
They have those throughout some
of the former coaches on Tech

643
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,900
staff has been part of that.
That's again, exposure to the

644
00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:31,300
NFL exposure to more coaching,
2019.

645
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:35,900
He followed cignetti down to J
mu and clearly, if you follow

646
00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:38,200
Commonwealth football or the
state of the Commonwealth

647
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,800
football JMU had one hell of a
season National runners-up in

648
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,200
the FCS, he was coaching just
the safeties down there, which

649
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,500
might be a concern to some
people but not to me, he had to

650
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:59,400
Two first-team CAA safeties.
The one thing I see with all, if

651
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,800
you look at his numbers, his
defensive backs are aggressive.

652
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,500
One of the safeties have six
interceptions this year.

653
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:11,600
Nice front, let me ask you this.
I've got a couple more things I

654
00:39:11,607 --> 00:39:14,000
want to talk with him, but let
me ask you this, he played

655
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,300
corner, he coached Corner deal
on but then he flips the

656
00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:20,700
safeties.
We do see this a lot with

657
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:24,000
secondary coaches.
Like, you can coach one Coach

658
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,000
the other and go back.
But what's the primary reason

659
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,600
for that?
Why were you see, guys do that?

660
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:35,000
I think the big thing that we've
been seeing is our rosters kind

661
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,200
of trending toward that
versatility that guy that can do

662
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,100
a lot of things.
Well so I think that's kind of

663
00:39:42,100 --> 00:39:45,500
part of the the philosophy here
but also I think you know,

664
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,700
you're pointing out it is, it
could tell us the story about

665
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:53,200
where J Hamm is heading with his
philosophy.

666
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,000
For the secondary getting a guy
that you know, is aggressive in

667
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,800
the secondary, both from
safeties and four corners, I

668
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,600
don't think we're going to see a
change in the velocity or trying

669
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,500
to get these get these guys
about to turn over the ball.

670
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:12,200
So I think that's still going to
be a linchpin of the, the Hokie

671
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,800
defense is forcing turnovers
getting the offense in a good

672
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,000
position to score some points.
Yeah, agreed.

673
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,700
And thanks for that sort of
explanation.

674
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:23,500
Another thing I read again, I
talked about it.

675
00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:26,100
I think this was a huge move for
recruiting.

676
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:29,900
Being a Virginia guy, not only
for the state.

677
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:33,700
You know, he's primarily going
to be covering Richmond area and

678
00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:37,600
the 757 but I think just overall
when you put a got this young

679
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,300
old staff, you talk about I
think a lot of relatability to

680
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:46,500
recruits that that has nothing
to help.

681
00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:50,300
We're about to go in the last
five years from one of the

682
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,900
oldest ass in college football
that to now we might Be the

683
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:57,800
youngest staff in college
football but we're not young

684
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:03,200
when it comes to years of
coaching, and I think the ages

685
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,800
of number, but the coaching
experience is going to be there.

686
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,700
Now, think we're these guys have
been as a key component to

687
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:12,400
because you look at some of the
stops of these guys.

688
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,200
You know, they don't necessarily
have a ton of experience but

689
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:20,100
they've been in behind the doors
of some of these really, really

690
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:22,900
Key Programs.
Some of them, you know, at about

691
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:27,200
the same level Us.
And some of them are programs

692
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,000
that were aspiring towards and
some like JMU or programs that

693
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,500
are in the state but have had
success in a different level of

694
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:35,800
college football.
So I think, you know, that

695
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,800
experience is really, really
important.

696
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,600
Yeah.
Now, one guy that does have the

697
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,700
experience is our new
linebackers, coach Tracy claeys.

698
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:49,700
Tracy's been coaching over 25
years.

699
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,800
He's a Jerry kill disciple.
Feel like when Jerry killed Came

700
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,900
in last year he sort of helped
back calm the ship after the

701
00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:59,500
Duke game could have shown a
good direction.

702
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,400
Tracy's been a defensive
coordinator over. 20 years

703
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:07,600
primarily you take a look at all
the stops running for three

704
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,700
scheme.
So kind of fits kind of tells us

705
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:14,800
that we're probably not going to
be changing our base defense too

706
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,000
much.
When you see that, I don't think

707
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,000
you bring in a linebackers coach
with the 43 scheme.

708
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,500
That's his background for 20
plus years and say oh we're

709
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:24,800
going.
Switch to a 34.

710
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:27,500
Yeah, but we're not gonna see
that now go see that.

711
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:31,200
But, but, you know, crazy to me
is, is really big.

712
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,600
If you just kind of look at what
he's did throughout his career,

713
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,700
I'm going to start in really the
last couple decades, 2004 with

714
00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:41,600
Jerry at Southern Illinois.
They led the FCS in scoring

715
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:47,200
defense at 13.2 few years later
in 07, they were Nessie SMI.

716
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:52,600
Team semi-final team with
another top. 10 defense from

717
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,400
there, he followed.
Jerry killed in Northern

718
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,900
Illinois, is again where they
had success, you know, in their

719
00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:05,300
2010 team which was their last
year at Northern Illinois, him

720
00:43:05,300 --> 00:43:08,700
as a defensive coordinator, they
ranked 14th in Total Defense.

721
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,000
That ain't shabby, no.
You're not playing the best

722
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,200
competition in the Mac but not
shabby.

723
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:17,700
From there, they took over the
Minnesota program.

724
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,200
First year, I'm gonna kind of do
a rundown just to kind of show

725
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,500
you where you got that program
is now Minnesota.

726
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:25,900
They're not getting the
recruits.

727
00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:28,800
We are we're, we're recruiting
somewhere between 30 and 20

728
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,300
primarily Minnesota is more of
that.

729
00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:37,700
What I'm seeing that when Keel
was there, that mid-50s to Mid

730
00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:42,000
40's range, so we're getting
more profile, more higher rate,

731
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,900
guys.
But this is kind of what he did.

732
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:47,100
They were their first year and
1193 ranked defense.

733
00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:50,700
Then the next year, forty third
ranked defense.

734
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:58,900
Then the 24th ranked defense
3443 and then 21.

735
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:05,800
So less Talent better conference
better competition, not playing

736
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:10,200
not having to terrible of Total
Defense numbers.

737
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:13,900
What do you think?
I mean, do you feel the same

738
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:17,500
without you feel some?
It's some hidden stuff in there,

739
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:19,400
Brian.
I mean, I think I think those

740
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,400
are good numbers to throw out
there and I think, also, the

741
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,300
thing to consider is that I
didn't Get the offensive

742
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:27,100
numbers, but I don't think that
in my recollection that

743
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:32,400
Minnesota was out there, putting
up, 40 points a game so that

744
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:34,900
those defensive numbers stand
for something because you're

745
00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:39,800
playing the Ohio, State's and
the Penn State's in that, in

746
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,000
that time frame, that were
putting up some per some pretty

747
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,500
serious points.
And that, and still able to put

748
00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:50,900
out those numbers with that more
middle tier recruiting talent

749
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,400
that definitely speaks to him
being able to coach.

750
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,900
Those guys up and get the most
out of the town that he has on

751
00:44:56,900 --> 00:44:59,400
the roster.
So I think you know I don't

752
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,200
think there's any really - to to
speak up in their biggest things

753
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,900
going to be as Kenny translate
that into what J Hamm is trying

754
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:08,100
to do greed.
Now I'm going to throw one more

755
00:45:08,100 --> 00:45:12,600
stat out here, 2018, with Wazoo
under Mike Leach.

756
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,000
He had his best defense.
They were the number four total

757
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,200
ranked defense in the country.
That was the year.

758
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,800
I am pretty sure that if they
had not been on a snow Laden

759
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,500
field and Pullman Probably could
have beat Washington and went to

760
00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:29,700
the Rose Bowl, but unfortunately
you're on the Air Raid Offense

761
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:33,000
and you're playing this so bad
things happen, and it did that

762
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,500
day.
Yep.

763
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:40,300
Now, thanks did kind of in sour
for him at Wazoo in 2019 that

764
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:42,900
the defense completely
struggled.

765
00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:46,300
But you doing some research, it
looks like there had been a

766
00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:51,300
significant riff with one of
Mike Leach has long time

767
00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:55,000
defensive back coach has Read
some articles from Pullman.

768
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,800
Looks like this guy was very
vocal about things and kind of

769
00:45:58,808 --> 00:46:00,600
Tracy.
Look like he was just kind of

770
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,700
sick of it and just kind of
wrote his resignation, laid it

771
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:09,300
on his desk and left and it kind
of also spoke to Tracy's

772
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:12,500
personality.
That this guy was more outgoing

773
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,100
louder.
Where Tracy is more was more of

774
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:21,600
a reserved guy in for a new
defensive coordinator.

775
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,700
Having a guy who with
significant success coming in

776
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,300
and you care about like what the
other guy did it almost sounds

777
00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:31,000
like this is going to be a good
role for Tracy.

778
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,700
He doesn't have to be the vocal
guy.

779
00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:36,900
He can be quiet, he can be
reserved in the way.

780
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:42,200
I really feel like what's going
to happen is I think Tracy is

781
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,200
going to become the sounding
board for J Hamm.

782
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,000
I think you're going to probably
hear stories about after games

783
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,800
looking at tape as they're
evaluating guys.

784
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,800
Jenkins.
Let me go into him for things.

785
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,400
Gout, this much experience.
Why wouldn't you?

786
00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:58,000
He's going to have Bud there
too?

787
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,800
Yep, you can have a plethora of
experience to go after.

788
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,100
And again hearing about traci's
personality, think he's that

789
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:09,700
right type of significantly
older guy to be on staff.

790
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:11,700
He's not boisterous, he's not
loud.

791
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,600
He's the other way and where you
see Jay, him, full of energy and

792
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,600
excitement, probably going to be
able to rein him in sometimes,

793
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,500
like pull back a little bit,
man, but I really I like to

794
00:47:21,508 --> 00:47:25,600
Tracy claeys higher concerning.
This new staff.

795
00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:29,300
Yeah, I think it's going to be
really good for us, long term.

796
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:31,600
It's like you said, sounding
board for J Hamm.

797
00:47:31,900 --> 00:47:36,200
A guy that has has the knowledge
has the experience but also

798
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:41,500
isn't necessarily somebody that
is looking to pad their resume

799
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:44,000
at this point of their career.
So I think he's a guy that's

800
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,100
going to be a big asset to J
Hamm.

801
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:51,900
As he kind of gets more,
acclimated to - it's of

802
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:54,600
coordinator at this level of
college football because he's

803
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,200
got you nobody can lean on and
tracing that you can lean on

804
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,400
when he when he gets into a
situation where you know, he may

805
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,900
not quite be out of this depth a
little bit as being, you know,

806
00:48:05,900 --> 00:48:07,500
first time coordinator at this
level.

807
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:09,800
So I think you know, nothing but
good things there.

808
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,200
So Brian, when we're breaking
this down, you've got the

809
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,400
opportunity to look at the two
hires that were definitely for

810
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,200
Hokie Nation more.
Exciting TNT.

811
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,200
And see.
Let's start built are on Nick,

812
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,200
go.
All right, so you got to hook

813
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,600
you fan and a cult fan talking
battle, former cult see,

814
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:38,100
ffensive assistant, whose father
was the Godfather of demons

815
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:41,600
arrived and had some of the best
defensive line output that the

816
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,300
Colts have ever had.
So this is right in my

817
00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:46,500
wheelhouse.
I'm ready to talk about is let's

818
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:50,000
do this.
Alright, so he'll tear links so

819
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,000
big thing for him.
Pretty much been in 4-3 defense

820
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,800
has for the majority of his
career.

821
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,500
So again as we were talking as
you talk with Tracy, I don't see

822
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:06,000
us changing not naughty dramatic
changes to scheme.

823
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,900
I think it's going to be more
subtle as far as

824
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:12,000
responsibilities the amount of
time we Blitz.

825
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,900
And then what what some of the
some of the calls are going to

826
00:49:15,908 --> 00:49:18,600
be I think that's going to be
where you see the biggest change

827
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,400
and not any sort of wholesale
Flipping of defensive

828
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,200
philosophies I think we're still
going to go with a one Gap

829
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,700
technique on defense because
what what bills worked in has

830
00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:34,700
been primarily that one Gap
defensive technique.

831
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:38,300
He wants your lawn your give us
a while to get upfield disrupt.

832
00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:41,100
The running backs angle spill
them to the other Defenders that

833
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:44,600
can make the tackle and you want
to create pressure on pat on

834
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,800
the, on the passing downs and
get that quarterback releasing

835
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,400
the ball before he's ready to
this guy's had some Success in

836
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,100
his career.
Obviously I mentioned being a

837
00:49:55,107 --> 00:49:57,700
defensive assistant for the
Colts when his dad was the

838
00:49:57,707 --> 00:50:02,500
defensive line coach you know
from there I ended up with the

839
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:06,900
the bills working as a defensive
assistant with Mike waffle.

840
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,500
Another another one of the
another god father of the modern

841
00:50:11,500 --> 00:50:13,200
defense who loved one get
technique.

842
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,400
So yeah.
So yeah like waffles the

843
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,100
defensive line coach that was
with the Giants the year the

844
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,700
They took down the undefeated
Patriots in the Super Bowl.

845
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:26,400
So this guy knows how to get
defensive lineman up, feeling,

846
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,200
get pressure even against teams
that have really good offensive

847
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,300
lines, like the Patriots did
that year.

848
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:36,200
So, That's that's some of the
stops he's been on, but I think

849
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,400
the biggest thing for him is
that he did work as an assistant

850
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,200
defensive line coach with Mike
waffles.

851
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,900
So in the scenario that we have
now with, with Darryl, Tapp

852
00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:48,000
working with him on the, on the
defensive line.

853
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:52,500
I think he kind of appreciates
the dynamic of having two guys

854
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:55,600
working in that role and you
know what, his role can be and

855
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,700
what he can do to, you know,
help Darrell grow in that role

856
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:03,200
as well as far as what we can
expect to see from the defensive

857
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,200
line.
I mean, We're going to be I

858
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,000
think more aggressive at the
offensive line, getting up field

859
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,900
getting in those in those gaps
and then disrupting things

860
00:51:13,700 --> 00:51:17,300
hopefully that doesn't come in a
detriment to to the running game

861
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:21,100
just because you can sometimes
create bigger gaps and it's

862
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:25,700
going to be important for
linebackers to be able to make

863
00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:29,300
those tackles in open space.
When those gaps, do get bigger

864
00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:33,000
as a result of getting up feel.
But I think it's going to put a

865
00:51:33,008 --> 00:51:36,200
lot more pressure.
Iran on quarterbacks to make

866
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:39,800
faster decisions and that's
where the aggressiveness at the

867
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,000
secondary level that you were
talking about.

868
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:45,300
With Ryan, Smith comes into play
and get those turnovers.

869
00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:48,000
Let me ask this Braun from the
tape.

870
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,600
You looked at, you know,
there's, there's a difference

871
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,800
between having to write for any
and Mathis and Lawson, but just

872
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,300
by looking at it, are you
skiing?

873
00:51:57,300 --> 00:51:59,700
We're okay.
Sometimes he depending on the

874
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:01,100
players.
But there were some times, he

875
00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:04,500
was doing things skiing wise,
where it was like There's going

876
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:08,100
to be offensive lines, not ready
for some of those different

877
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,100
looks and the way he, you know,
Slants and stunts like things,

878
00:52:12,100 --> 00:52:14,800
like, they're not going to be
prepared for On Any Given

879
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,600
Saturday.
Well, I think the biggest thing

880
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,400
that and what the bills were
doing is that they did a lot of

881
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:27,900
show and bail which really makes
offensive linemen frustrated,

882
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:30,900
you don't.
So yeah.

883
00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:33,800
So so you know you got a guy
showing Blitz and they'll bail

884
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,500
out The dolphins of lime in the
center, probably more than

885
00:52:36,500 --> 00:52:38,600
likely has already made a some
sort of check.

886
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:44,000
And now, now somebody doesn't
have a got a block because the

887
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:47,000
Blitz the blister that was
showing his bailed out now where

888
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,400
that comes into big-time plays
when a blitz is called.

889
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,500
But not from the guy showing.
So now you've got an offensive

890
00:52:53,500 --> 00:52:55,000
lineman.
That was expected to pick up a

891
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:56,200
blitz.
That's not coming.

892
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:00,300
But now he's also the odd, man
that has to find where that

893
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:04,500
Blitz is coming from and get
there and that Dates, a lot of

894
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:06,200
the problems.
That's why you go from, have a,

895
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,800
have a guy running free because
you got alignment that's waiting

896
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:13,000
on a, on an a gap Blitz.
And now this Center has to get

897
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,800
outside and get to the outside
linebacker that ended up being

898
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:21,300
the guy that's blitzing, who do
you think on the team right now?

899
00:53:22,500 --> 00:53:26,600
And I'll, and I'll put it at the
defensive line primarily.

900
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:28,800
Who do you think?
Are we going to see the biggest

901
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,300
growth next year with just
having Carol, Nick?

902
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,600
And His defensive line coach, I
think you're going to see a lot

903
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,800
more disruption from the
defensive.

904
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,400
Tackles I think with the
rotation that we have now and

905
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,800
with some of the younger guys,
getting another year in the way

906
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,700
around.
When we started started a couple

907
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:54,400
guys, right out the gate that
hadn't really been in the weight

908
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,400
room hadn't, been a part of our
program and they were

909
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:02,700
contributing significant snaps.
So I think, you know, I think

910
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:08,400
like, I like, Like food is good
is going to really benefit from

911
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,300
this from this new scheme
because he's a guy that has had

912
00:54:11,300 --> 00:54:14,700
some size on them already, but
he's athletic and he can get up

913
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:18,600
field and disrupt those running
plays and still get after the

914
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:21,000
quarterback as well.
So I think you might see him,

915
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,300
get some more rotation this
year.

916
00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:26,000
On top of the fact these you
know Heather had a year in the

917
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:30,600
weight room with us but the just
his build and his his ability to

918
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,700
get get into the backfield is
going to, I think pay dividends

919
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,500
With What feelings trying to do.
Nice.

920
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:39,600
All right, we're going to move
on.

921
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:44,300
And obviously, the last guy
we're going to talk about.

922
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:49,100
It's Darryl Tapp and he needs
really no introduction to Hokie

923
00:54:49,100 --> 00:54:50,300
Nation.
But I'm going to give him one

924
00:54:50,300 --> 00:54:53,800
anyway, he shouldn't if you've
been a fan for any significant

925
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,200
bill that you don't know.
Darryl Tapp is, I question your

926
00:54:57,207 --> 00:55:00,500
fan of the Hokie Nation.
I'm sitting in my office right

927
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:02,400
now.
I've got a son Darryl Darryl,

928
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,500
Tapp pendants.
Behind me.

929
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:09,900
So I'm a big Darryl, Tapp
believer right here so you know

930
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:12,700
we're talking to Tom all-acc
first team.

931
00:55:12,700 --> 00:55:18,100
ER drafted in 2006 12-year NFL
career with six different teams,

932
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:23,300
definition of lunch pail
mentality, hard hat mentality

933
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:25,500
said you're not going to outwork
me.

934
00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:27,000
I'm going to keep this lunch
pail.

935
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:29,000
The whole year.
You're not going to work.

936
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,400
You never gave it up.
We joke with him about that and

937
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:38,200
he was like, yeah it was mine.
I kept the lunch pail when he

938
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,100
got drafted.
I mean this guy can do it all

939
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:46,300
and I mean, doing my research, I
was looking so me and him share

940
00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:49,900
one thing in common, at least
part of the 600 back squats.

941
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:53,300
Love these 660.
I got 600.

942
00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:58,100
So we're both in the 600 class.
We got asked out to celebrate

943
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:00,000
that on big squat Friday.
Absolutely.

944
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,900
We have to but I mean from a On
the field perspective.

945
00:56:04,900 --> 00:56:07,500
And from a recruiting
perspective on the field, I

946
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:09,700
think what he's going to bring
his, he's going to challenge

947
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:14,300
these kids to work harder and I
think his pedigree is not just

948
00:56:14,300 --> 00:56:16,200
words.
He's shown it on the field, he's

949
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,200
shown it in practice, he's shown
it with with, with the lunch

950
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,300
pail, this guy's not going to
get out worked and I think

951
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:26,100
that's going to inspire the kids
in terms of how hard they work

952
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:28,900
both in the weight room and on
the field you know, to never

953
00:56:28,900 --> 00:56:30,300
quit.
So I think that's that's the

954
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:33,600
biggest thing out the gate that
he's going to provide for man on

955
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:35,900
the field.
Perspective, is that extra

956
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:38,200
motivation to get more out of
these guys?

957
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,800
And they think they can really
get out of themselves from a

958
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,600
recruiting standpoint.
I mean, he's ruled it does, it

959
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,800
doesn't get much better.
I mean, you've got a guy came

960
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:54,100
from the 757 was a Hopi Legend
been in the NFL and now he's

961
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:57,300
talking to guys from where he
grew up and saying, hey, you can

962
00:56:57,300 --> 00:56:58,900
be like me.
Let's go do this.

963
00:56:59,700 --> 00:57:03,300
Absolutely, and indeed it is
it's any school he walks in

964
00:57:03,300 --> 00:57:05,600
down.
They're the credibility's there

965
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:11,500
again, all-acc All-American
drafted, 12 years in the NFL so

966
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:15,000
much of that stuff.
You know what can what can you

967
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,600
know some coach say like well I
don't think you should go there

968
00:57:17,900 --> 00:57:21,500
the kid would side.
I look him but this is a unique

969
00:57:21,500 --> 00:57:26,100
perspective for you because you
when you played in college you

970
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:29,900
kind of are going to be in the
you were kind of in the same

971
00:57:29,900 --> 00:57:32,900
shoes as the defensive line kids
who are this year.

972
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:38,000
Is because of your go ahead,
explain who you had because mean

973
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,000
in an NFL got hit it guys.
Yes.

974
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,200
Well, Championship.
Coming with the difference is

975
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,900
when a guy like that is talking
to you, so I'll paint you a

976
00:57:46,908 --> 00:57:49,700
picture here.
So I'm makes the last game of my

977
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:53,800
senior year, I tear up my ankle
for five months.

978
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,100
Recovery at that point.
I was, you know, maybe hoping

979
00:57:58,100 --> 00:58:02,400
and hoping to get a school like
J mu or we were married to say,

980
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,000
hey, come walk on for us.
Us.

981
00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:06,900
So I was pretty much at that
point thinking.

982
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,100
Yeah, I'm probably not going to
play football anymore, you know,

983
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:12,100
I was getting a lot of calls
from division, three schools,

984
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:14,200
but I just wasn't quite sure
that that was going to be a good

985
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,000
choice for me.
But ultimately I got a note from

986
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,400
Keith conlon, it's coach for
hand and Sydney's coaching

987
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,400
offensive line.
Come to find out.

988
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,500
That keep conlon was a
offensive, lineman for Penn

989
00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:32,200
State and won a national
championship with Joe Papp and

990
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:38,700
was drafted by the Colts and
then played for the Saskatchewan

991
00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:41,100
Roughriders for a couple years
before getting back into the

992
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:44,100
coaching ranks.
So that kind of that kind of

993
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,200
spoke to me a little I was like,
okay, well we got we got a guy

994
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,200
with that's been on that journey
and he's working with this coach

995
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:54,200
at him and Sydney trying to
build something that's got to

996
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,600
spend, that's got to count for
something.

997
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,700
So, you know that guy be in the
building and just talking with

998
00:58:58,700 --> 00:59:02,600
him and talking with his journey
and talk about what, what coach

999
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,200
Marty fabric was trying to do.
With him and Sydney that that

1000
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,800
sold me and I ended up playing
the hand and Sydney.

1001
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,800
So You know, I was at a point
where I wasn't sure if I was

1002
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,000
ever going to lay some up again
and all of a sudden you know get

1003
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,700
get another good three seasons
playing the games I love because

1004
00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:23,400
of a guy like him and I think
Darryl Tapp is going to have a

1005
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,700
similar type influence on some
of the kids that that he's going

1006
00:59:26,700 --> 00:59:29,500
to talk to you both in the 757
and really any recruits and he's

1007
00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:32,000
going to talk to on the road.
Very nice.

1008
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:37,700
So we're going to be putting out
a Twitter poll guys and what

1009
00:59:37,700 --> 00:59:41,000
it's going to say is which of
these You coaches Ron Smith,

1010
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:46,600
Tracy claeys built tunic or
Darryl Tapp we see impact game.

1011
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,700
One the most my votes going to
be for Ryan Smith.

1012
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:55,800
I think a having to remain
waller or Mighty Chapman, Halo

1013
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,800
Farley to a lesser extent tamari
Connor.

1014
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:04,400
He's going in there with proven
guys and I think guys, he can

1015
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,800
immediately say I trust from day
one.

1016
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,700
I think that's my vote and I
will Vote on there.

1017
01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:11,200
Of course.
What about you Ron?

1018
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,900
I'm gonna go with out the gate
as far as on the field.

1019
01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:18,000
I'm going to go build your link.
I think what he's going to bring

1020
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,000
to the table of getting those
guys ready and just from a

1021
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,500
technique and skiing
perspective, I think you're

1022
01:00:23,508 --> 01:00:26,000
going to see a lot more
disruption in the backfield

1023
01:00:26,900 --> 01:00:27,900
Scott.
I think you're going to see

1024
01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:29,800
sacks go up and that's a direct
correlation.

1025
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:33,000
You're going to see turnovers,
go up whether we're talking

1026
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,200
strips Acts or whether we're
talking interceptions, because

1027
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,200
quarterbacks are letting the
ball loose before they're ready

1028
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,600
to make the right decision.
Great buy, anything else?

1029
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,200
We need to tie up on today's
episode.

1030
01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:46,900
Not real.
I think we're good.

1031
01:00:46,900 --> 01:00:49,600
I just really appreciate
everyone that's tuning in here

1032
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:52,600
and listening to us and helping
us get this thing going.

1033
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,500
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1034
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,500
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1035
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:04,000
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1036
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,500
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1037
01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:10,300
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1038
01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:14,400
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1039
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,100
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1040
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:22,200
appreciated and that wraps up
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1041
01:01:22,500 --> 01:01:25,800
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1042
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,300
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1043
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1044
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,700
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