Notre Dame Game Preview

0:44 Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian Sigler, buddy. How you doing tonight? Winds Today, let's do it. It's hump day coming off the bye week, feeling refreshed not as much stress on the body over the last weekend. Not as much stress as having to go through three and a half hour stomach ache. As Justin Fuente has said consistently this year about our team. I got to go through a hour and a half stomach ache on Sunday watching, the 49ers play the Seahawks when we Hold them.

1:26 Hold them. Hold them drive drive drive, get three. Freakin points. Yeah. Yeah, y'all definitely figure out a new way to do it. There we finally got one in the books. The Colts put one on the the good side of the board there. Hopefully we get a little bit more healthy as we go into the middle part of the Season here because I mean we've been banged up all over the place. Yeah he's wise call me back and yeah you know also missed his first start. I mean you got that you got T wise been on IR. Other guys on offense and defense have been banged up. Jonathan Taylor got a little Nick this week. He might not be full.

2:12 Go coming into this week, so true. It's been an interesting year. Although it looked they looked about the same as my fantasy team. So, well, the Niners Is didn't start Trail ants in the second half and it's like people, like all he doesn't look good. He looks shaky. It's like he had no script, he had no first team preps, he had nothing. He scored 14 points against Seattle. I feel good about that your fantasy doing great. You know, I got lucky the first two weeks of fantasy season. I couldn't barely break a hundred Brock take W is, and then last two weeks, I'm starting to put the points together. People are getting healthy. I'm finding the right. Mix of the line up, boys, and eat it. There you go.

2:58 I'm sitting in the bottom third right now. I'm kind of hanging in there by thread right now. I just got to get my running backs healthy, you know, weird piece, we're in the same league, everybody, you, and several other people who were in the semis Is last year or just at the bottom. It's got nothing to do with draft position like, no, because it's been bad luck. Well, you told me the other day. Ryan texted, me. You were like, dude, I now know exactly what you went through, until Johnny concerning injuries and I'm like, I even got the Joe Mixon thing going on. Like, I'm just a half of parallels, I just gave one running back healthy.

3:46 And then Joe Mixon might miss this week. So one in one out. The life of fantasy football. Obviously folks. This week, we are going to be talking about the Notre Dame game here in a few minutes. But before we get into that, get some general things we want to hit on a couple Hokies notes. But Brian, let's talk about this for Hokies basketball, what a pickup? I mean, an absolute pick up getting Rodney rice to combo guard, out of DeMatha, not a shock there. Top 50 player top 10 combo guard, one of the best players in the state of Maryland. I mean the We don't follow basketball as close. A it's tough.

4:27 If you are a Avid follower of basketball, feel free to DM us. You like it have a show with the penalty Corner up. Cast basketball version, but, you know, the team already looks good Mi kyung. Great pick up the coach out of DeMatha. Clearly get this kid. Now, I mean you mentioned to me, you were, you were just reading an article What is it? Two more? Guys, we can pick up and it could be best class ever. And that would probably be a top-15 class. It definitely be one of the better classes that they've had clown. He's the big, the big other Target that we're trying to pull in there.

5:09 But I mean, this is, this is Mike Jones. Higher already paying dividends and he loved to see it out the gate. Getting a major major pick up like Rodney rice. Guy that's probably probably going to give you a lot of good quality minutes out the gate but isn't necessarily quite at that one and done level. So you probably going to get him for three years in the program which is going to be big as well. So I think that's good for the long-term and the short-term. So that's going to be a big pickup for us. Looking forward to seeing him in the maroon and orange next year. Absolutely. And as much as you can say with Mike Jones being at the Matha, You look at my Jones resume and how many like 16 and under teams and stuff like that.

5:56 He's coached I think that's just him coming in and making the immediate impact on because this kid you know you could probably list the schools. He went to he probably could have his choice of probably any 15 or 20 schools of where he was. So again my mic young, Mike Jones tearing it up. Let me tell you who's not tearing it up behind, this was like story of the weekend and just a lad. Is Urban Meyer? um, I mean tearing it up in the wrong way, I guess. More than I will say this, right now, if he had any thoughts about going back to Collegiate football, that's never going to happen again. And honestly, once he gets fired from Jackson, that's probably it.

6:43 Because I don't think what he did in that bar, and it's not so much 20, he was in a bar drinking. It's like the pitch. The video that came out yesterday. And what he did, that's it, like you like are you really going to hire a guy and put him around coeds? Obviously, there's going to be female trainers, female student, I mean, Louisville might be, oh, you know, they do, but but I mean, what a shit show that he is, it's been at every stop. It's, you know, it's been a lot of questionable things. Whether it's, you know, some of the things that were swept under the rug in Florida, whether it's in how he left that situation, some of the things that got pushed to the side and swept under the rug and Ohio State, and how we left a gap. Like this guy doesn't do himself any favors when it comes to The public relations of the universities in programs that he works with.

7:53 Yeah. Usually it takes about a year or two for it to start to you know come to come to a head here, we got it, you know, four weeks into the season. So what I'll do less than that though because the higher in the, the old Iowa, what strength coordinator was immediately like this guy got fired. Oh yeah yeah that'd be that. That was hurting you hurting their. Then I'm going to have to And then I'm going to put Tim Tebow as one of my 90 where it's like, okay, you're really not taking this seriously. Tim Tebow has been out of football for six years. Why are you putting him on your team? So it's a complete joke. Again, I think because of this incident and whether it be USC pens, whoever If you seriously go approach and say we're going to hire him, like okay immediately it's like you're a joke of a program because of that incident in general along with all the other excess baggage.

8:52 So I think he's preferably I think it's done. I think his TV career is over 2 because again doing this type of stuff and getting busted he's done and maybe it's a good thing. Yeah. And you know at least if nothing else we got the solid Urban Cowboy Meme out of this thing because yes, that was sent me man that one sent me. So I was like absolutely great chefs kiss Chef sky. So Braun last Saturday night. You're sitting there probably like me why can't some of the late game? Probably twittering and you're thinking about game day where they'll go next?

9:32 Because this is the week. We thought you know if we can somehow get 4 and 0 and Notre Dame gets 25 and 0. Tennessee, game day comes here. We lose West Virginia. They lose Cincinnati last week, in your sitting here looking. It's like, well, they're going to Iowa. It's going to be two top, four teams. Yeah, instead, we're going the Red River. Shootout. Hmm. And I set their Brawn the 90th time, but not before, you know, you taking the sum of the times, the mid 2000's and even the later, part of the 2000s, they were usually in the top five. It made sense, at least one of them was right, at least one of them was well back mid 2000's. Yeah, mid-2000s Consistently a top five, top eight match up. Exactly.

10:24 And I mean that this is probably the the year where both teams collectively are ranked the lowest, right? Both crank the lowest boat, not both not looking good. Texas is 21 Oklahoma's hanging on to a top five team, but if they're a top five team, then you know, we're a top 15 team. That's just the way I feel about that. Just they've won every game, but it's been ugly, LeBron. I did more digging. And do you realize how much the new ESPN SEC? Contract is per team? I would say, it's very healthy. Assignments. One of the figures but I think it's very healthy.

11:07 It's almost 70 million dollars. Okay, you know what? It was just a few years ago which go 55 million. So you're telling me that they are getting. What is that about? A 26% increase? You smell it? Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and just outright put this out here. I think ESPN was significantly behind the Which to get Texas and Oklahoma into the SEC. Because you look at that contract and you say, how are you going from mid 50's to damn near 70 million dollars? It's one thing they had in mind we're going to get two, great big ol fan bases, And they're going to come over here.

11:55 We're going to get we can get control of the Longhorn Network. We don't have to compete with Fox with them anymore. It makes sense. So if you're the, if you're the Big 12, do you not lawyer up and would you ever do something you got to do something? Because and I'm with you, I'm with you. It's a, it's definitely, you know, there were hints that they were already scheming against the Big 12, and this is showing out right Market, favoritism towards the SEC as well. So we got kind of tooth two things working in tandem to really kind of fuck the Big 12 here, right? Oh, absolutely.

12:46 And then you're not going to Big Ten. And again the Big Ten, this game is on this game is on Fox at 4:00 It's not an ESPN game and if anybody who's our age, if you remember what Gameday used to be? It doesn't matter what network the game was on it did. They went to what was going to be one of the biggest games and they'll sometimes they got to midseason, they sort of fluctuate, they be like okay we're going to go to an ACC game this week and the next week we're going to go to a big 12 game and then next week we're going to, you know, we're going to go a little off kilter to an FCS.

13:27 Yeah. You know. And they can people can say, well as you get the late October and early November, some of those matchups usually have one in every conference that you can really make a good case for you know. Once you get towards Halloween and then pretty much the entire month of November. So the it does get harder than but we're still we're talking about the first week in October here. We're talking about a clear-cut case that are getting, is not the better game. It's not it's not even negotiable in terms of where they're ranked and their resume, all the things that you want to talk about. There's, you know, it's an even the Nay. I mean, Penn State is, is still a big name in terms of The fan base travels how they show up all that stuff.

14:13 So there's still some marking names there, Iowa has become a really good kind of secondary. Yep, you know, smaller game day atmosphere in the last half decade or so, we were or a little bit even before that. So, yeah, that would have been a good choice. But, you know, we get to see Texas and Oklahoma. Again you know we'll get to talk about all the all the fun things that comes along with that but it just seemed like a missed opportunity, massive missed opportunity. But you know it is what it is.

14:55 Well alright ESPN is really kind of started to cater more towards Certain sectors, anyway, and it's really sad, where ESPN is gone with anything that isn't there live sports presentations and even then, I mean, you can tell who's getting the second tier equipment and all that shit. Now, it's really nice. Well, you could well, not as good as last year, was the ACC networks videos compared to this year because last year, some of that, Stuff was grainy. It was very very yuck. Now this year it looks like they are getting the better video so maybe it was just covid.

15:42 It's still just very fishy. All right, folks will announce something. If for the next month, you see me in Brian's head? Brian will be Stevie Ready Set Go. You do. We do this, which we will be doing a lot of playoff baseball here from one currently St. Louis La 11 Brian's beloved Bravo's. Are in the, I'll be starting what Friday night or Friday. After just the Brew Crew is the Brew Crew that's going to be a heck of a matchup myself. My Cubbies are not there. We sold the farm. Thank you know. You sold it early and but you know No, got some return but you know, got some Red Sox, are there atmosphere in Fenway. Last night was electric and then that also stop bitching about the green monster Yankee fans.

16:40 It's been there for a while. It's been. Well, you know what I kind of laugh is people were like, well, that ball would have been out in any other Stadium. It would have been close. It wasn't a guarantee or because he was in he was in a power. He doesn't pull down the line. That moment Power Alley and it was coming down, that's why I didn't go out. So it would have been out in maybe a third of the parks it would have been close and another third and there's probably about about a third of that it would have been in one try. So yeah so completely quit complaining about that. We both have the same Rudy interest tonight.

17:22 I don't care if La has 100 plus wins and they're paying everybody. A million dollars. We hate the Cardinals if your Cardinals fan of there. If you're a Cardinals fan we're sorry it's just Cubs fan and what happened a few years ago with the Braves and the infield fly rule. Yeah and that was before, I mean historically the Cardinals have been a team that has eliminated the Braves in the playoffs. So the incident with infield fly was just sawed open wound to already a history that I really Unlike with that team. So Cardinals fans, nothing personal. Just tired, just tired of losing the Cardinals, in the playoffs. I don't want to see him.

18:07 Exactly. All right, Brian. I threw this to you a little earlier today. I think I'm decided, I think that October is the number one, the goat Sports 1. Are you there or something? Competing with you? I'm absolutely there. I've always been there. It's just so, so much happening. You got, you know, NBA and hockey gearing up. You got baseball coming to a close college basketball, Oak gearing up your, in the meat of the schedule for college football. You got NFL, you got kind of the, the downswing of the golf season.

18:53 I mean, you got a little bit of everything. Nothing. And it's literally going to starting last night in going forward. I don't think there will not be a live sporting event of some type on from now, until November like legitimately. I think if you look at the schedule between Collegiate football, pro football, baseball, and then obviously, it's a preseason NBA games and preseason, hockey games, and they'll be starting near the end of the month. It's like one of those. if you're out there and you're married, if you haven't watched many sports over the last couple months, Go for it, just not what watching baseball tomorrow.

19:36 What about tomorrow night football? Then what baseball? Then what everyone else everything then, you know, Virginia Tech's playing a preseason game that's on the Acca but just all some Monk, the weather's cool them down, you go outside, you know, went to a neighbor's house last Saturday night had a little whiskey neat had to Fire pit gone. We were watching the Clemson game for a little while, so it's just that time of year, man. It's perfect. It's lovely, it's cooling down. You get to like pair it with some other like, good fun, family activity. So you kind of are off the hook for sitting in front of a TV. The rest of the day.

20:23 Yeah. Actually let's get this into the morning, ladies and gentlemen. So we, so I can go and sit in front of the television, from noon to 7, O'clock depending on how many games you want to watch and go and go into the night. Exactly. And depending on the good gains that good game starts at nine. Like go ahead and book me for a good 12, 13 hours on my butt. And I'm sure with you Brian to lot easier to smoke in the fall. You're not. Yeah, it's going to be better once we move in January, but right now it's nice. Is because where I usually am smoking in the backyard gets like direct sunlight in the afternoon, so it gets hot even under the shade there so it'll be nice in the in the new house with better better shade.

21:17 But yeah, it once it cools down in October, it gets nicer. We're getting into Chile season here. So we are officially last weekend. You could not last In two weekends ago you would be okay. Last weekend was do warm this weekend. What are we looking? Look whether looking like we're going to give you a fish oil chili score here it is going to be 72 it some chances of rain on Saturday okay I give that an a-minus few degrees cooler would be an A but a - really cook usually under seven is perfect but under 70 is perfect. You can get away with under 75 if it's raining it.

21:59 And that's, that's what here in the RV. VA and it's looking like that up in Blacksburg to Brian. So let's turn over a couple Hokies Notes From The Four Winds, a press conference. There was no update on Silas tansy and basically he said they're going to find out as they go through the week. What do you take from that? Sounds like it's day-to-day and sounds like they are preparing this week as if they don't have him and we'll adjust accordingly. If he is available, you don't think it's gamesmanship where it very well? Don't be it very well could be, but it's hard to tell with Wednesday though, right? Because everything is played so close to the chest. You can't tell when when he is being a little little hesitant with the truth there.

22:50 Exactly, so hard to tell. Well, let's hope he's there because he is one of our best five offensive linemen. I think it's our Collective opinion. Wherever there are even if he's playing tackle or guard, he helps the team significantly. All right, Brian, let's talk about the next thing. They were talking about the young players and he talked about primarily the to Jalen's out of Virginia, down strowman and Jalen Jones out of here, out here, in the 804 talk about they had Been close to playing, but they've been held back for various reasons. I must we know about Jones injury. We hadn't heard about Stroman, we saw strowman, the first game had not seen him since You know, wide receiver wise.

23:34 It's like I'm not worried because the way it looks for not rotating guys, you know, although Justin Fuente has said, we need six to eight guys rotating. We've never rotated anymore in like 4 and when we do see it, the second team doesn't really get a whole lot of run when they're in there. They're mostly there to block and make way for, you know, throws to the running backs and tight ends or the old definitely. Still get the judges. We get motion. What strong even though it's sort of strowman. You feel like, because of what happened with Taylor, you feel like starting was pushing too deep and then you saw him quite a number of special teams play against North Carolina and then he's been out. The kid has a head for football.

24:23 I think if nothing else even as good as his special teams has been hitting him back and just getting him some reps. In some way you're going to just quickly. We develop him and obviously, what the safety position. Depth-wise long term. Yeah, and I think, you know, in terms of front end, I think we're okay there, we don't need him to be there, but having him, there would definitely give us a little bit more cushion and obviously probably, you know, push forward his development as well, which I think is important for the long-term abso-freaking-lutely. All right, Brian. The next comments. Oh buddy. So, Justin Fuente decided to say they must tailor make this offense to have success in any mentions about getting the running game going and he has to find ways to get Playmakers involved.

25:15 I'm gonna go on this one first. Yep. You have Middle Tennessee, State, and you had Richmond to do that. Against Middle Tennessee. State has Brian stated, you went so vanilla and then it gets Richmond, more vanilla. So to me no you don't. You don't because if you wanted to try to get people involved and try to tailor, make an offense, your to lesser opponents, who would have less chance to win a game. Even if you made some mistakes, you chose not to Yeah, it's really weird statement and this has been something historically that we've seen with this team, right?

26:00 Yeah. We kind of saw new wrinkles and changes being made, you know after Duke before Miami in 2019 we've seen this staff, typically make these wholesale changes of how we're approaching the offense going into games that are big Not those tune-ups, it's something something that matters, either in that, in terms of the coastal or something that matters in terms of the program perception. And not just, you know, take Taking games, like, as you said Richmond, Middle, Tennessee, State to really kind of smooth out the edges. We haven't taken advantage of that and then we've had to hope that we're doing it on the Fly against better competition, which is strange because Playing off of that. We've played down to lesser competition, and play up to the competition in games that we thought. You know, we there we were at least a 50% chance of losing if not more.

27:03 So it's really interesting how they approach this because of that history as well. It's very true man. And again, you hate trying to make any wholesale changes going into this game especially and then going back out of season when you had those games. And again, when I hear Taylor me in an offense, I will not believe it until I see it. Yep. Mom leave until I see it because you're now selling me the empty bill of goods. Oh, we're going to tailor, make it 0 best passing game ever, dude. I just, I don't believe you anymore. Like, until you show me on the field and whether it, whether some of those comments are trying to gas up players that you think are listening to what you're saying during these pressors versus actually talking to the media. Like, at some point.

27:58 You know, you're losing the fans Goodwill as your gassing up, these players that you think you're helping. But doing so, because we're not seeing anything. Yeah, we're not seeing, there's not either a visible change of something. Different happening on the offense, a something verbalized to us saying well fans Weiss is going to call the plays so it's nothing visual. It's nothing verbal, it's just or, you know, oh we're going to Let's go away. Find that. Yeah. Define it. What are you Taylor making? What are you doing? Are you actually going to throw the ball?

28:38 Are you actually going to do things different? Because you know, I can't take your work. I can't take your word anymore. Yeah we'll stick it at that. All right. Something that somebody brought up. I wish I could remember the poor who asked a question about playing in the big games because we have played into very big game this year you and see you know prompt Time 6:00 packed Stadium. It was one of the three best games of that. We opening weekend, and the West Virginia game of that weekend. You know, 12 o'clock game. You know, FS1. Lot of publicity about it hostile atmosphere. Yeah. So, you know, the point was made that, yes, it, this is actually good for the team going into this game because again, it's a sellout.

29:25 You're going to have the stadium, absolutely jam-packed. It's going to be loud. You know what? She was on ABC, colleague would be on ABC if they hadn't forced this to the ACC Network because they're showing their doing Nebraska Michigan and you know we only can get Notre Dame a couple times a year. I think they would have thrown them on ABC because they know it's going to do a number. By the way, how are you watching the game? Since it's not on, you know, it's only if you see network I am signing into my father. My father-in-law's Verizon FiOS account to watch it again. Nah, you don't have Hulu, Hulu, has it all. I've got ESP n plus but they you don't get the ACC Network. Proper you just get a sec Network extra really? Yeah.

30:25 Okay. For the was it 23 million people? That would Comcast, which I think 17 or 18 of them. Are all these goes, call your cable subscriber and tell them to just get the SEC network, or do with everybody else. There's been so many people wise cable losing customers things like this. So super interesting big time. All right, well Brian before we jump into knowing the enemy, he knowing the Irish we are going to take a quick pause or message from our digital partners. As we take a quick break, we'd like to tell you about getting your free website report from our digital partner, Grassroots, digital marketing Studio. They'll tell you how your website ranks on Google on-site, SEO and social media.

31:15 No commitment to buy anything. You can get your free report by visiting. Grassroots digital studio.com forward slash free Dash website, Dash report. Now back to the episode. All right Brian let's start it off. You know the enemy we're going to jump on the offensive side of the ball. And let's start, let's start the offensive line because there has been some struggles, their form and Brian. Here's some of the data I've got for you. They are out of 130 teams. They are 128, insects allowed, they're averaging over four and a half per game, and they're losing close to 25 yards. Again, it's that is a big number. Regardless of the number of sacks tackles for loss allowed. They're 129 out of 130.

32:05 No judge. Yeah. Just about nine and a half per game allowed, and right at 36 yards. So, this team's losing behind the line of scrimmage close to 60 yards a game. I mean, that's insane. What is to take telling you? Brian. The tape is telling me that the interior that offensive line is giving up a ton of penetration and the tackles are only average at Best in past Pro. So they're getting their mostly in Mobile quarterback sacked a lot and they are making their running backs up to run the hump and get outside in the alley because the only weird place they're gaining positive. Yardage is when they are able to get to the outside alley. They are not getting hardly anything up the gut. Yeah, probably across the board.

32:57 I mean, big-time tackles for loss and they're not allowing their backs to really We get to the second level in the middle of the of the offense, and that's a big problem because that means that they're their backs are having to run, laterally, way more than they should in the running game. Yeah. And it makes sense, right? I mean they lost three NFL lineman, you know, Liam eichenberg when the second round and Banks went in the second round, the guard and Robert Haynes doing in the fourth round most teams. Even the really, really teams that recruit at the level they recruit at when you lose that kind of experience and talent and guys, who are getting evaluated and getting drafted that you don't replace it.

33:44 I think it's interesting. Brian, you talk about the rushing? Numbers. Like, I like how bad is that? I mean, are they even cracking 100 a game? Now, they're averaging one of us e 2.7 yards per carry. Oh, they're making us look good. It's atrocious. And a lot of that is that negative yardage that you're talking about. They're you know, they're not getting thrown for a 1-yard loss and then they're throwing a Of yard gain on top of that, they're getting thrown for a five or six yard loss and then throwing a 7-yard gain on it. So the net is pretty bad and it's trickling down and you know when you don't have a quarterback that can move around a lot that's not opening up any other lanes. For those rushers to really get to that second level route, they're really dangerous when they can get to the second level.

34:45 They've just having such a hard time doing it right now. Now I hear you and you already mentioned the quarterback a couple times. They're in a true debacle right now. Brian, you've got the 63, 220 63 star Jack cone, the Wisconsin transfer, he's got solid numbers, through five games, 1,100 yards, 9 touchdowns, three interceptions, 60 percent completion. His best game was clearly out of the gate against FSU in that shootout. You mentioned him being a mobile. Obviously if he was So a mobile that he's getting killed. Why is he still the quarterback? What is he bringing to the table something. So the big thing he's bringing to the table, is he can make all the throws, he's got the arm and he is definitely.

35:31 The more polished the more seasoned, the more experienced player of the the big to we'll talk about Pine here in a few minutes. Yeah. And he's and he's the known quantity, he's the safer choice and I feel like that's kind of where they are. They are especially with their struggles, on the offensive line. They kind of went with the safer Choice, thinking that would kind of buoy them a little bit. Despite his shortcomings with his athleticism. Yeah. It makes sense too because a couple years ago at Wisconsin, before he got overtaken, he had a solid season had like twenty three touchdowns to like nine interceptions 62 percent completion percentage.

36:11 It was like okay this makes sense. And then, you know, last week, Drew Prime. The 511 200 pound four star. He gets some significant playing time and it was on top of a game after the Wisconsin game where he got some time there too. You know so far only include completing 50 percent of his passes on for 224 yards and a couple touchdowns but clearly if watching that Cincinnati game when he came in he was a spark, he has a spark, he got them back in that game. What do you see on the tape from him? I mean he's not the elite athlete but he's a significant upgrade in athleticism from cone morion book for it. Okay, yeah.

36:58 Yeah you know he's not going to be a that guy that's going out there and completely tearing you up. But he's, you know, he'll get first downs. He'll scramble, you can you can design runs to him and feel comfortable doing that. And in the passing game, he does throw a pretty decent deep ball. He's not super accurate in the intermediate and that's where a lot of his incompletions are coming in, okay. But when he sees guys coming open in the in the back of the defense he does a good job of getting the ball out there to them and he still does a pretty good job of kind of that short passing game to the running backs where they can get those athletes out in space.

37:40 All right, let me ask this Braun when you when you were looking at the tape with him. Was he much quicker? Because obviously we're showing here and the tape showing the debt, the stats are showing, is he quicker to just as soon as the line breaks down, is he immediately moving getting out the pocket trying to do something? Or she staying in there a little longer he, when he is comfortable with the play, he will stay in there longer. When, even, if there is pressure bearing down when he isn't as comfortable with, The play as soon as that first read isn't there. He's willing to take off if he feels any sort of pressure, so it's really kind of a mixed bag.

38:24 A lot of times when it says, throw that he's comfortable with, he'll hang in there to try to make it. But, I mean, based on the depth chart that Notre Dame put out there, it looks like cone is still the number one guy will see how many, how long that lasts, how quick the hook is and what, or whether they end up mixing in Pine with comb through. Out the game. Like, we've seen a couple of other teams do against the so far. All right. Let me ask this, Brian just straight-up. What's your preference for Saturday night? Who takes, who do you want to take an 85, or 90 percent of snaps? I won't cone. I want, you know, because he's the known quantity, he's the guy that we've got the most tape on. And he's also the guy that if we can, hold their running game and check, we can make a very one-dimensional offense. All right.

39:15 Yeah, I'm with you on that. And also just from hearing from the different beat reporters throughout the week. In South Bend, it looks like they're going to go to Jack comb route. How quick is the hook? I think that's going to be very interesting to see. Although with J Hamm, I think you would make a quick adjustment. I don't think we'd have to wait for two and a half or three quarters, but the other piece too is, you know, is go back to the offensive line. But also So Pine, if you decide to throw five, offensive linemen, who have never been in an atmosphere, like it's going to be Saturday night. And then you three quarterback, In an atmosphere like it's going to be Saturday night.

39:57 At least you can say with cone. Well, you know, he played some Big Ten teams he played in tough environments, he's got that going for him. So do you want five guys or three guys who have played in tough environments or do you want six guys who've never played in a tough environment. Yeah yeah and Cone cone definitely has played in games that matter in atmospheres like that before. More than likely something. That was, that would be akin to Beaver Stadium. I would imagine big house. I can't remember how many games he played in, whether he saw both the stadiums, but he's definitely having to have that big 10 resume. He's definitely played in at least one stadium. That will have something in the ballpark of what Lane will offer.

40:47 So he's probably the better better choice in terms of being able to handle that type of environment. The Horseshoe and, and then the Sea of red down in Nebraska tokenism, who big ones. So and he also played in a Rose Bowl atmosphere. So, um, yeah. Alright Braun. Lets Roll onto this. You mentioned those running back a couple times. They're not looking to the best so far this year. But man, we know that they are dangerous and I want to start with the one-two punch. Let's start with kind. Eames 59, 199 pounds or Star. So far this year to .89 289 yards, 3.8 per carry and three touchdowns.

41:34 Also, 174 receiving yards, 12.4 perception with two touchdowns and I tell you last year, man. 1,400 yards from scrimmage hell of a year. What is he bringing to the table of this one? Two punch with him and Chris Tyree. Yeah, he's the more Shifty running back and probably a hair better in the passing game, then Tyree great use of patience. When running the outside Zone, kind of lets things set up and then kind of gets in the alley and can make us miss at the second level and does a really good job of catching the ball out of the Outfield and kind of hitting home runs that way. Good Vision in the open, feel to turn a small gain into a big one for that offense.

42:23 Ants. Nice and obviously the second guy of this one-two punches, a guy if you're a hockey fan to hook you and you should be familiar with them. If you're here in the RV with us you should be super familiar with them. Chris Tyree out of Thomas Dale in the r-va here or Star. He was the top all-purpose back. When he came out, he was a top 75 player. He was a top-five player in Virginia. One of those we missed on. Yep. 59 and a half hundred ninety. Pounds a triple threat to me. Haven't got that many carries this year 98 yards with a touchdown. 117 yards in the passing game with a touchdown and then to 38 in the kick return game with a touchdown.

43:12 He's averaging almost 30 per kick return. So we see another Elite kick returner, which is becoming this very, very worrisome, as good as its played and you know last year thousand all-purpose yards. 4 touchdowns on he's fast. Like super fun. Yes. Yeah. He's definitely fast. He's more the one cut back and go. He's got speed for days. Once he gets to the The second level can really affect the game in the return game. I know he did fumble a kickoff return against Cincinnati that set them up for a field goal to make it a 10 nothing game there but you know when he when he gets them in there he's doing a lot of good things with a football setting them up and pretty good field position in the kick return game and he is also very dangerous in the passing game much like Does a good job in the open field. He has that Vision which you expect from a guy that is also a kick returner, right?

44:19 Getting the ball in the open field and be able to read those blocks in space. So, in terms of Home Run threat, he's a little bit more of the Home Run threat. But isn't as much of a impact For You Down by down just because it is a little bit of more little bit more feast or famine with him because of his run Style. Absolutely and again it's just one of those guys that it's a pain to see and especially it's more of a pain to see you and you when he says, I can't wait to smell Virginia Air and play in that stadium. That always is a little just you just ripped it out. Just ripped out the heart. Chris don't say things like that.

45:01 Yeah. I mean, you look at saying if you love if he was saying it, you know, as a hokey and not visiting from bashing. So I mean when we first started this podcast we they had just kind of closed on that class and we talked we talked about how that was a big Miss for us and you know, we're seeing that kind of come to fruition here, you know, with him having some success, good success, as a freshman, and even with a completely shoddy offensive line, still being able to make some plays here. And there in this offense this year Yeah, so that's to me, that's the big thing is we've kind of correlated that offensive lines bad, but if you give one of these guys or both, these guys are Kris, they can make you pay.

45:50 So you know we'll discuss some of those points later. All right? Brian this guy. Jesus Lord their top receiving threat. Michael Mayer. The tight end. The 2025 star. S. Tightening the country. Top 25 player. He 64 hes 249. I looked at some of his when he was at the, the showcases runs like a low 48, his shuttle drills are pretty much, those Elite like what you see in FL tight ends do and then obviously his size, he's built like a prototypical paid in. He's like 19. You know, so far this year, 360 yards, three touchdowns 11.3 per catch, again, leading the both in yards and receptions.

46:39 He could be a big problem even if we are able to create pressure and he, yeah, and he's the guy that's we with the sticks for them. You know, they try to do the short passing game with the running backs. And then hit Mike. Mayor on some stick movie where out And I think the big thing that he brings to the table. Is like you said, a good combination of above average speed for a tight end, at the Collegiate level paired with the typical NFL size and that's going to be something that we've got to keep in check because we want to be able to get this team off the field and he's the guy that it's extends drives for them and the receivers they are. They're solid, but they are more they'll you know they'll hit them on like a 20 or 30 yard play and then they disappear for a quarter.

47:37 This is the guy that you've got to worry about down by down series by series every time they're on the field essentially whether it'd probably be calling our Pine. They're going to be looking for him it's probably their first read. Every time is going to be wherever he's going. He's either the primary threat or he is the 100% secondary route, no matter what the primary this let me ask this, just looking at the tape. Is he primarily in line? Are we going to see him at several positions? He's going to line up all over the offense, they'll split them out. They'll put him in the wing, they'll put him in line, you know, they'll even move him into the backfield on occasion.

48:18 So, he'll line up all over the field, they try to find creative ways to get him out. And where you can't just jam it off the line of scrimmage to get him off his route. So that's going to be something we need to definitely focus on and make sure that we don't die a death by a Thousand Cuts and that they keep their offense on the field for four long extended drives. And when that time of possession some we can't do and I just hate using the word creative with somebody else's offense and not ours, but I digress. All right, we're going to roll on guys and now. We're going to look at the defense and, you know, let's just be straight up. If you are Virginia Tech Hokies fan and you don't know who Marcus screaming is, you probably haven't been paying attention.

49:04 He is a super up-and-comer in the world of the Collegiate football coaching ranks. He's a former Buckeye. He only played one year in the NFL back in 2009, for a couple teams because essentially in the offseason and 2010, they discovered he had an enlarged heart, he had to retire and not long after that, he started the coaching ranks started as a grad assistant back. Has State then been coaching linebackers. Kent State worked his way up. Got to Purdue have to be a co-defensive coordinator. And then, obviously, over the last few years, with another Buckeye, Luke fickle down at Cincinnati where last year, they were one of the, you know, one of the best teams all around the country. In the defense, he created brine. They were a thin points per game. There are 15,000 yards, they were 11th and boisterous forced turnovers.

49:55 They were Elite. Lost a close game to Georgia and then essentially got snatched away by Notre Dame and Brian Kelly. And I'm Kelly said that he hopes that he's the next coach there. I hope he's not What are you seeing from him schematically though? Brian, we've got the story behind who he is. What is he doing on the field? Yeah, so when he was at Cincinnati they ran a slightly different system than what they're doing. Now, you know, some of that is just preference. Bye bye. Kelly. Some of that is Personnel that you don't quite have to to make a wholesale transition but they're still running kind of a 4 to 5 but they Are going more of that multiple front. Look, that Freeman was famous for at Cincinnati with occasionally getting that that dollar that 326 look up front. But the base defense is still a 425. They run a lot a lot of cover 1 and cover three on the back end, they're very much likes to with that. You said it reminded you yeah reminds at least on the back end reminds me some of Bud in terms of how they like to work their coverages and then mix that with blitz packages. All right.

51:27 What terms of just philosophy? You know it since I just said you know, but it's an aggressive philosophy and their goal is to, you know, really clog the A and B gaps on both sides of the offense and kind of force everything in to see Gap in the running game. And you in terms of the passing game, they're coming after you and try to make you make mistakes and and get some turnovers there. So they do a good job on the back, end of keeping things in front of them, their corners. Aren't Elite, but they do a good job of not like getting beat deep very often. Now, when you talk about A and B is going to see, this is what bud? You should talk about spill Lanes, right? You want it to spill outside but we are allowing the fast guys to get there versus just punishing you up the middle. Yep.

52:17 Exactly. Yep. That your funneling everything to the spill Lanes that's where you got your. Usually you have your in the Older system. The whip, the Rover can make the play there your your, your backer is there as well. So that that's generally the idea of trying to force everything to those spill Lanes. Absolutely. I said, let's talk about some of these guys. Brian. Because, you know, somebody, you know, the Virginia guy, they had to replace Jeremiah who sue Kimora? You know, they had her place in and that guy was all over the place in the old system. And I think because of how They're running this new system, there they found that guy who was already a proven starter and Kyle Hamilton you know, 64, 220, you know, safety. 20:25 star.

53:09 He was the top safety in the country top 15 overall and so far this year, twenty seven tackles two tackles for loss three interceptions. I'm assuming he's everywhere. Yeah he's everywhere. I mean he's technically He's listed as a free safety but they use him in just about every way that you can use a defensive back. He's at free. He's at their strong safety, sometimes. He's in the nickel. He plays their equivalent of the whip which they actually call Rover. He kind of, does it all on the back end there and And really solid tackler, but really great and coverage, both Zone and man uses his length really well and does a good job. When he gets his hands on receivers in ball carries, getting them to the ground as well. So keep an eye on him.

54:11 He He had some of the sound bites. I think this week with what the referee was saying on a would look like a blatant hold against him on. I think a quarterback scramble last week ref said something about. You know you're at all American you can't get blocked or something like that or you can't get held. So he was in the, he was in the headlines this week, making a comment on that. So keep an eye out and see what what he does this week, but he's definitely one that we've got to account for. Every snap because he's going to he's going to make some plays. All right, let me let me just look for a little bit behind because obviously, he'll have one more year of Eligibility.

54:55 After this, he's going to be his size, his length, whatever he's going to be a first-round safety and he which is very few and far between. Yeah, he's if he's not he's definitely a early day to guy. He's going to be one of the first to two safeties off the board more than likely. So, all right, definitely keep an eye out for him because he is, he's a playmaker. All right, well, let's now something you talked about earlier, Braun, you talked about how Marcus screaming loves to clog those A and B gaps in kind of looking through here. He's got JD Bertrand.

55:40 First year starter at linebacker as a four-star 61 230 made a big impact right alligators and starter 48. Tackles one half sacks so far this year. Where is he specifically? Is he Mike, is he will. Is he weak side? Where is he linebacker while Grand? Yes. Oh he's will he does a lot in the in disrupting both the Run game and then has a good amount of coverage responsibility in the past game but he does a good job of disrupting the running game. He's the reason why they're really Stout against the run and he's a good tackler and surprisingly really he really good in coverage.

56:25 I've seen him run with, you know, really good really fast running backs in coverage, really good, running with some of the slot receivers as well. Doesn't really look out of place. There he doesn't look like he's losing any athleticism to those guys. So definitely looks the part there he does. Sometimes lose leverage in the running game, so that's something. If we can get Kind of outside. We might be able to exploit that a little bit. He gave up a couple of runs where he had kind of edge responsibility and lost that leverage. So that might be a way we could take advantage of him a little bit but in terms of his style of play he's definitely a disrupter and a solid overall tackler. Excellent.

57:14 Brian. What are the core? What are the core of the linebackers? Look, I mean is it is? Is everybody liked him door? They like Hamilton. You feel like there's, there's no weaknesses in his game Bertrand. You've talked about that outside run, Leverage is the linebacking corps. More like that, they're good. But they have their spots where they can be beat. Yeah, very much. That there are times where you can you can take advantage of them. But they're very good between the tackles. I hope that we can run between the tackles against them, but that's what they do. They do a really good job of kind of pushing. Everything outside is your hope we is your hope. We don't start by running between the tackles early. Yeah.

58:01 I hope we kind of spread them out a little bit and get them out of that at 425 looking maybe into the more 3 to 6 and then we can kind of hit them in the middle, got it. All right well And even if we get them out of that little and we have to drop back to pass and the Isaiah foskey is a scary scary looking defensive end 65 to 60 a four-star. He was a top-15 defensive end when he came out. I mean, he's prototypical that build is a prototypical defensive end build, you know, really started producing this year. 21, tackles five, tackles for loss, five sacks in a forced fumble and You educate the people because you're going to hear this on Saturday night. They call what he plays Viper, which is cool. But what is it kind of aside from sounding cool. You know, aside from sounding like you're in Top Gun, Viper is essentially a hybrid defensive end in this system so if they're in a four-man front look, he's going to be the one of the Russians.

59:10 He will play Sam line. Backer. In some of the other three man front looks and especially the 32 or 33 and if they go with the like a three, four look, he will line up as a traditional Edge rusher there. So you kind of had has three hats that he wears in this defense and with that build. I mean he really does a good job of doing all of those, he's just athletic enough. Enough to kind of make make all that work and he does he is I'd say pretty heavy for a like a true Russian or Edge Defender but that size helps him when he slides into the linebacker role and is kind of running downhill. So you got to watch him.

1:00:01 Especially, I saw him. Had he had a sack fumble against Cincinnati. He's made some other plays and some other games, so he can definitely impact the game. Mmmmm, and he impacts the game even when he's not necessarily at the football. So we got to make sure we get a, get a hat on him every time. All right, I got a quick question about when he's on that when they're in the four to five you said he's down at the end position. Is he playing like a nine technique? Or see a little closer to the offensive tackle there. So sometimes he is in a six hand in the dirt, sometimes he's in a nine handed the dirt, sometimes he's standing up.

1:00:47 Okay, kind of kind of moving around between techniques So it really kind of depends they do it, they let him kind of freestyle a little bit, and that's one of the Hallmarks of a Freeman defense is that he trust the instincts of his players. So a lot of times, you know, you'll see them freestyle a little bit within the parameters that he set, right? Okay. So that's something to keep an eye on, as well. Got it two other guys to look out here for Brawn. I know we don't have as much info on them. Twin brothers couple Ford three stars about a New Jersey Jason and just Anatomy Ola Jason Plays defensive end I think he's a secondary Viper might play the opposite side as well and then Jason is a defensive tackle so just two other names to listen for on.

1:01:47 Saturday night, guys, two brothers. They're all right. Brian. So last 30 minutes or so we've been talking about them. And what we've been doing every week is we've been talking about versions of the Hokies Alpha was great. Yeah, it was okay. But the last two versions hadn't, been that good. So yeah. So this week we're Epsilon in. If you I'm a nerd and the Epsilon definition is an arbitrary. Small positive quantity. Ha ha ha. Who's that? We need to win the quantity for the defense is going to be. Really solid like where they are, you know, statistically and how they've been playing for the offense who I'll take small positive versus small - right now crime because, you know, as we've been talking about it, we've got, you know, three keys here and the first thing that when we were talking the other day and you said to me, we've got to win at the point of the time we get.

1:03:00 Freaking got a block to run the ball. Yeah, we got to be able to run the ball and like I said, I don't think necessarily attacking right into the meat of that defense. Early is the answer but we got to find effective ways to hopefully get to that spill area. But get have have blocking there. We can get up the alley and and start to get them out of their preferred look there, but I think Some of the other things that we're going to need to work in some play action because, but we need to get the running game. Going first for that to be truly effective, right? Yeah, absolutely. You know, if we, if we don't get the running game going, early play action is going to mean nothing to them because anything that he burned them pretty good because they had an effective running game.

1:03:47 Even if it wasn't necessarily, you know, burning the world up. They were effective in the running game and they were able to hit them over the top a couple times on play action is true. So the other thing Braun, we were been talking about. You talked about scrambled drills getting now field, is this a game? You'd like to see, we hated what they did with West Virginia, running some Sprint outs, essentially where we can get, it's in a way, it's a little scramble because if he rolls out and there's nothing there and they stay disciplined, he might have beating might have 45 yards every time to just pick the angle. Go. I know you don't like cutting off a field but in this case yeah and I'd like To see when when BB escapes, the pocket kind of escaping laterally, at least initially where he can still try to make that throw down, fill in The Scrambled row because I feel like our receivers may not be open initially but I saw on tape where especially in the Cincinnati game but also against FSU where as a play kind of Drew on there were opportunities to get the ball down field in the passing game.

1:04:52 So I think that's one way to get it going and in the short passing game is owing to be important as well because you know I think we can get them kind of moving laterally and get them. Like open that box up a little bit that will enable us to try to run between the tackles a little bit more and hopefully get some movement in there. So probably things like we saw out of the UNC game that we have, amazingly not been there as much before the little swings and stuff, through the running backs, the, the, the bubble screen, not the tunnel, the bubble. Yeah, I'm going to and run variations off that, right? So once you, once you show that, look, run some stuff, run some variations off that where they'll, you know, potentially bite on something they've seen and now something else is open.

1:05:40 Yeah, I mean I think the short pass game is going to be critical because they they are going to, they're going to get some sacks. They're going to get us scrambling off times because they are a good defensive line. They have some solid linebacker play. And the one thing that we've talked about is and you hit it here. We didn't talk about any of the defensive backs, because in reality, none of them jumped off the tape and you've already mentioned it. They can be Gotten there. Can they be absolutely exploded? Probably not definitely not. By the way. We've been playing offense. But, you know, we've had, we've had 13 days since our last game 13 gave to self evaluate.

1:06:24 If we don't start seeing the changes coming and they're not coming and and if you're going to say, well, we're going to win with what we've got. We're not going to win many with what we've got, because you don't have a dominant offensive line. Get that running game springing for 200 yards again. Yeah, we if we don't improve on offense, we've got enough to get us to a bowl game but we don't have enough to challenge for the coastal. I mean, if you look at the teams that are in a as good or better position than us at this point, you got to look first at at pit, right? And the thing that scares me about pit is that I'm not so much concerned that we won't be able to score some points. It's against their defense.

1:07:12 I'm just worried about it, they keep rolling the way they are. That they'll be able to score more points on offense than we can score on offense exam that and that's not knocking our defense but if they can get to 30, that's probably enough. Yep, I agree with that. Alright, let's talk about the Epsilon version of the defense bar. And we mentioned, Tyree and Williams. I mean, we have to tackle like we did Carolina middle. Tennessee Richmond. We For we cannot afford to tackle like we did against West Virginia against those guys. Yeah. Got to bring these guys down because if they get to that next level they are dangerous.

1:07:52 And you know I think the another thing that we need to talk about is that we need too much like a lot of teams have already against Notre Dame this year, we need to force snaps behind the line of scrimmage need to get some tackles for loss very consistently. I'd say, you know, close to a our of their total snaps need to be either a sack or some sort of tackle for loss. If we can do that then that's going to put them behind the chains and make them extremely one-dimensional and that's when they get in trouble and really they would have to lean on their tight end to kind of bail them out. Yep. And we've already talked about it. They're giving up close to about 14, tackle behind the line and Brian, you're saying about a quarter.

1:08:33 I mean, so you're saying we've got to even go above their average and probably hit 15 15 to 18. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, which would be a lot which would really, which would really set the game up for Waller and strong in Armani to attack is, you know, you get a second and third and 15 either either they're going to run draw and say, well your offense in going to do anything, we'll just punt it away and the last piece, Brian, I think me. And you talked about and it's what I've defensive been good at George don't matter, right? Points matter, I don't care what's matter, you've been saying, I don't care if you take it to 15 and you drive it to the 30 you and yourself, you just got 55 yards but that is going to be one long field goal that goal that you're known Brian Kelly. He's not going to take the risk, go punt deep. So Drive Stoppers when they cross that Midfield, you mentioned to me.

1:09:37 You said they cross Midfield, that's where they have stopped. Top dip and and Hamilton has done a good job of mixing in some some blitzes, or some different coverages that really throw teams off. Once they cross the 50, this year, yes he has. And so hopefully he keeps that up, where it gets us off, the field forces, a field goal, you know, whatever may be and hopefully even you know, force a turnover or a sack fumble or something like that, interception, that gets us the ball back. And they've done a good job with that this year and hopefully they keep that up against Notre Dame because they did turn the ball over against Cincinnati. So they are not a clean and perfect team with the football. So there's going to be some opportunities for the defense to get the ball back on those on those plays. Absolutely.

1:10:29 Well, Brian, we talked about them, we've talked about us, it's time to give our predictions here. Brian, and I'll let you leave the way this week, man. You know, I feel good about this game in a lot of ways but I'm just concerned about the offense and I'm so concerned, I think that it's just going to be too much. I think it's going to be 23:14, I think we're going to struggle to really consistently, run the football and I think that's going to be our undoing. And ultimately, probably have have a turnover that really kind of, kind of puts the puts a knife in our back to close it out there. But I think it's a close. Game four for three quarters and then they kind of we finally make that mistake.

1:11:14 They really gets them the double-digit advantage there at the end. Yeah, I'm not far behind you. I put it close. I do put Notre Dame, winning this game 2117, and for me it's just the, the offensive eyes I tested. We're failing it in every way in the statistics prove it and you can say, well, we're just missing one or two passes. One or two passes. Don't Make you almost, you know, one of the basically, the quarter worst teams in the country of Italy, they don't, if you want to argue that point, that it's just a pass here. Just one run Lane if you cut this way?

1:11:54 No, no. If you were 50th. Yes, one or two passes. Put you in the top 25 one or two passes, doesn't bring you from being terrible to being a really good offense. It just doesn't. And I I think what I think it's going to be bronzed. I think our defense are going to probably play their asses off. I think that crowds going to be electric. I don't think they're going to have a tough time hearing they're going to probably have some false start penalties but I think what's probably going to happen is where one time you know I think defense is going to put us in good positions and their defense is going to put them in some good positions and they're going to capitalize just a little more and you We've been going through this every time when one of us or both of us choose a loss. We're going to say how we win and Brian kick it off of what you got the first, the first, big thing. Yeah, in already said it, we were talked about the defense, but the defense has to force field goals instead of touchdowns.

1:12:56 If they have good drives, they need to end in three points. Not touchdowns. All right, so key one there guys field goals and obviously in brine scenario, you've got them getting down there. Five times, kicking three field, goals, you say you need left. You need less than three. Any more than three you need 2025 for us to win. And I'm I'm similar, I've got them scored three touchdowns. So if you tell him, either we hold them to a couple field goals. Yeah, we can win this game. That's next thing we brought up here was in Bryan, has already said, we have to establish the run early and then mixing the passing attack as we get into the game.

1:13:38 And it's true in, in a, we sin is in a rethinking Ron and then start taking shots start. No. Start pepper and easy passes, start pepper and smart passes. Essentially what I hope we don't do Brian has I really hope we run. I hope we start outside Zone us. Hope we start outside in running the ball. I hope this is not weak Force last year where we literally ran it their best player, the whole game. And we know that the best part of this defense is here. So I hope that doesn't happen. But if we can get it, Only this attack the edges to meet earlier where the linebackers are, maybe hesitating a few second tenth of a second in the middle of field.

1:14:26 Where later in the game, when you run a jet motion then you can come back with that inside Zone and because they took that awkward step. One of them can get up here and drive them out the way. Yeah. What about some actual true read option. My eye twitching here. Yeah. Read options. Yes. Yep. Because again, it's attacking the outside, right? And then it's making them have to make decisions and eventually they make the wrong decisions. You are able to go up on that inside, low, something like that, we can run talk about them again. Yeah, we talked about them occasion, losing leverage in the running game on the edge. That's what we got to take advantage of early, so we can kind of loosen.

1:15:12 Them up so we can run inside. But the other thing we need to do, you know, back to the defense, we got to force them to drive the field long, and we've done a good job with that, right? So far this year, we've done a good job with controlling field position to making them Drive the field and what that does is the more plays. They have to run to move the ball down the field, the more prone they are to make a mistake at some point whether that is, you know, on the offensive line where they give up a key sack on third down, or whether that's making turnovers or you know, giving up a fumble Ever may be the further, you make a team, have to go the more at they are to do something to screw up that drive. Very true. Last piece we've done this very well, this year.

1:15:55 It's why we're three in one. And I know if you follow Twitter or social media, or listen, you would swear some people, the way they react, where your Owen 14, we're three in one, we're in a division race, the a ACC and the reason we've been able to do that is offensive and special teams have played super clean minimal turnovers. We have to keep that here. If we turn the ball, if we turn the ball over in any sort of capacity driving in for a score Deep In the Zone like we did against Richmond or in the middle of the field. If we do that, we're giving them the extra opportunities.

1:16:37 We have to get those opportunities as Brian just said a few seconds ago, well, we're going to need them to generate points on our end. We can't give them something back to offset that. Now, if we do all this, do I think, like we blow the doors off of them. Win by 23 touchdowns? No, I think it's just a flip script of probably what we're thinking of our scores. Yes, the motor dame. We think Virginia Tech because we did everything. Perfect. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely like a 329 Point Victory. The other way we can put all these things together and a lot of that's going to depend on if we put those things together and we also Force like a pick six or a special teams touchdown or something like that.

1:17:23 That's something that could really kind of put it, put it at the higher in there. So yeah, I mean, we are picking against the Hokies this week but we are still positive, that there's a chance out there. To pull, pull the pull the wind, we just got to we got to put a lot of pieces together this week us and we got to see improvement from a certain part of the team. All right Brian. Let's head over to Saturday. Pick them's. You boys want 500 last week very rough week. You know. Spelled all out. Brian Steele, 27. And 25. Two games above. I'm right at 26 and 26. Here's the funny part. we literally line up and just say, let's pick these games we aren't going through games saying, like, you know, I don't like that game. If I was actually a bet, I would be read that on that game, but because we want to talk about the ACC teams and some of the bigger matchup.

1:18:21 That's why we're pulling these on here, maybe. Next year. Brian will have this. Like, I am doing this on this game, but this is my I'm not counting it gonna be, I think that game. Well, the game we're leaving off with, you know, we're not stacking the deck because no, no. If I had any fucking saying this, I would not be picking this game. But you have to Bryan, and guess what? Since you are leading, you get to be honors. Maybe this is a coin flip. So like I mean Duke is weird. Georgia Tech is, we are polar I don't know what to expect from them. Yeah so you got a little bit of flavor.

1:19:05 I'm going to take Georgia Tech and hope I don't have to curse them next week because I think they're there, maybe improve, just enough, and I think Gunners just not quite get to be able to get it done against them. So yeah, I'll take I'll take GT here. Um, I'm actually going to go with you right there. Georgia Tech did not have a good game last week. I can remember, right? Yeah, they it's Evan flow. It's happened there having flow. So this is there good week, I think I'm right on. I gotta check that out. My brains. Yeah, they had the bad because they got blown out by pit. Georgia Tech rebounds to win this week Duke.

1:19:48 You know, got blown up by North Carolina. I think the Jew trajectories there, Georgia, Tech later, three-and-a-half. Georgia Tech wins by 10 in a, probably a fun game to watch. All right, Brian will go with the next one. Here UVA Louisville. Louisville lane two and a half there at home. Essentially Louisville's getting the home flavor and I'm gonna go with Louisville with Louisville, at least parts of this season. We've seen their offense, click and score. They're going against UVA who as bad as mine. He looked Miami still, almost got 230 and almost beat the is bammy. Miami look ratchet.

1:20:31 Like Mammy hadn't business in that game. And UVA. Let them potentially have the Us to win the game. Louisville has looked more up than down, but I think Louisville will have enough of a defense to where there's probably going to be about eight possessions of Peace in this game. I think Louisville is going to school in six to seven, because uva's offense, defense is just horrible. We're UVA is gonna swarm 5, so something like, forty two, thirty five, forty, nine, thirty, But in that case, give me Louisville and I'll lay the points to UVA. I'm going to take that as well. Give me Louisville and it's very much a similar similar story there.

1:21:12 I think Louisville is settling in and trending in the right direction, on both sides of the ball, particularly on their offensive side. And I think they're going to do enough to score against that awful awful UVA defense that That offense for UVA is going to have to be damn near perfect in order to pull out the W. It's very, very true. Alright, Braun surprising game of to pretty solid teams Syracuse and Wake Forest Lake Wake, Forest Lane the six-and-a-half. What say you on this one? I'm going to go with wake here. I think they're going to be able to do enough to win that one, by about 10 points.

1:21:55 I think use is a much better. Than previously advertised team, their running game and defense are respectable, but I just don't think they have enough in the tank to go for quarters of waken and keep it that close. I'm with you on that one all the way I think I think use came back to Earth last week against FSU and especially the way FSU and looked they got into a fight with them and loss. I think you can see that downward spiral continue on especially when the one of their better receivers goes into the portal and lines up o interest from Texas A&M after hearing the Jerrod story andand the other week, I wonder what happened while he was in the portal and again, When portals going to be good but man, it's going to be some dirty crap in the portal or the next few years.

1:22:46 All right, Braun. Next one, FSU versus UNC. I had a double check this number and I'm going to again just to make sure I'm looking right FSU. Is the underdog. Not surprising. No, North Carolina is Lane 17 and a half points. I don't FSU has looked like a dumpster fire. They looked much better last week. I can't least 17 and a half. The way Carolina's has been up and down and has placed a, they have also been very bipolar. They just their their highs have been higher than Georgia Tech, and their lows, haven't, quite been as low as Georgia Tech. But Yeah, they've definitely been kind of up and down, as well, but you pretty much as to say, in this case, FSU has one of its worst days.

1:23:40 While UNC has one of its best if they're going to cover that 17 and a half. So I'm gonna go f issue here. Yeah, we're locking again together. Here we are locking up across the board here so far. That's okay though. All right, I got a smelly line for you for Friday night on the west coast. Stanford coming off the upset of Number three, organ goes to Arizona State, Arizona, state has looked good and bad at times. They are ranked currently, they are laying 12 points to Stanford. I don't get that. I mean, I would say this should be like a six and a half. Maybe seven and a half line.

1:24:27 Yeah, not 12. Give me Stanford just because that's, that's a weird. That just maybe Vegas know something. I don't know. Well, I've known they've known before and I'm and and that's why I'm going to just go against you, because we need to break the monotony of going on the same thing. And I'm wondering if it's whole thing of did Stanford, just is the thought that Stanford play their best game against a really good team. And now they have another sock, another very good team. In front of them. Can they get up again? And, you know, Taking a look, leave this one, you know, it's at Arizona State the line.

1:25:15 Wow, well, we like these in earlier so we're going to just stay at the 12 line. Actually, went up a point since earlier today, when we put these down Brian. So I'm going to take Arizona State. Okay, I think hangover and short week on the road, probably going to be a good environment. They're in Tempe, we already mentioned this game once Braun and Red River, shoot outside, the Red River. Robberies the Red River shootout, at State, Fair of Texas, Texas and Oklahoma Oklahoma Lane, three and a half, very short line.

1:26:00 And you know the question you have to ask yourself is when is Oklahoma going to get right? When is it going to click eunos Rattlers a good quarterback? You know, they have some talented you know you know playmakers all over the field when is the offensive line going to get right? And I think in this case it's going to be in a rivalry game. I think it's going to be how many times do you see it? We're a team has been playing other teams, they look mediocre. They look blah and then all of a sudden the teen you hate pops across the street and everybody gets focused at week. So I'm going to take Oklahoma lay the three and a half.

1:26:44 I'll go against you here. Okay. Now, I'm not saying Texas is back. We don't say that on this program, if we do it sarcastically. Yeah. But I think, Oklahoma just hasn't found. It has a found the offensive clicked. They really need and I feel like Texas does a good job of kind of keeping them a little bit off balance on defense so I think overall ends up probably going to take taxes out right here but I think Texas pulls pulls it off here. All right, so, upset week 12, cannibalizes itself, even more Brian takes Texas. I'm going to take Oklahoma.

1:27:29 All right, we've got some Virginia Tech ties to the next game. Brian. And yes, we do, everyone in the fighting Shane. Beamers go play Tennessee and potentially Hendon hooker. I know he got knocked out of the Florida game, but, you know, it's college football. It seems like these guys come back quicker than other things. Yep. Um, and He did play last week against Missouri, so many played, it had a great game. So I'm by week is completely thrown up where we are in my Head. Tennis haha. Yeah, it's like it's messed up my mind. You know, you didn't come in what games happened last week? Oh yeah.

1:28:12 Happened two weeks ago. Tennessee's laying ten-and-a-half and Tennessee for this game is at home. It's a high noon, kick grind ten and a half ago what you got. Give me the fighting hookers. Over the fighting, Shane Beamers. Find hookers over the cocks. Yeah. Fighting hookers over cocks. I'm Liquors are take. Hookers are taken down the Cox. Hey it's a machine on the board here I'm with you. Tennessee's play significantly better look solid against Florida for a while there and don't get me wrong.

1:28:56 Shame has started out the gate find three and two you know wins over Well, Eastern Illinois is East Carolina and Troy and losses to Georgia and Kentucky, but the Kentucky game was competitive but I think in this scenario it's going to be every game where unless they play Perfect, they're likely, they're not they're going to lose by two touchdowns or more. So, I'll take Tennessee on this one. Braun. All right, buddy, the night game on ABC this week, Battle of traditional Powers, Nebraska and Michigan Michigan, laying three and a half.

1:29:41 And this is going to be at Nebraska and this is the one I have mold over more than anything because Nebraska has looked better since that, absolutely awful showing at the beginning of the Season against Illinois, the one where literally you probably thought they were Fire Scott, Frost the Monday morning. After that happened. You know. There there are there like a handful of coaches that were immediately on the hot seat that have since that's cooled off a little bit. Yeah. And they're three and three and you can say, well, that's still terrible record, but the losses were seven points to Oklahoma. And three points to a very good Michigan State team. Who's undefeated right now blew the doors off. Northwestern last week.

1:30:32 But the way Hardball has his guys playing, it reminds me of 2011 and as a Niners fan, that was close to my heart. So I think hard by goes down to Nebraska. I think they get a win, by more than three and a half points. And I think last week against Wisconsin, proved that. Jimmy would go and continue to score on people and, you know, because you take a look at that game last week, you know, 3817 at Wisconsin and, you know, they scored 25 points in the second half. When you know, that's just something they hadn't done. What about you?

1:31:15 Yeah, I'm taking the Wolverines as well. I think this is a, this feels like a different mission. Team of the one we've kind of seen of late. I think that lack of preseason expectations has done wonders for their confidence, they look like they're playing very confidently in that offense. And the defense is playing as good as they played in the harbor. Our era there at Michigan. So used to him, I'll take the Wolverines here. All right. Got you down here? All right, Braun, lets take a look next at the Deep South oldest.

1:31:56 Wobbly Auburn and Georgia, Georgia, Lane 14, and a half points Auburn coming off that kind of the bone X Mirage, whatever he did late in that game to LSU in Georgia, just absolutely stomping a mudhole in Arkansas in the first quarter. Well, you think on this one? This is the one that I've been struggling with because it's one of those where the line is fine. But you just have a huge problem laying more than two touchdowns in this type of game, right? I think I'll go is definitely capable of putting that type of Victory against them up there but if I got to make a pick I think that it's going to be a little bit closer than that. Probably seven to ten point game. So give be Auburn.

1:32:56 And I don't feel good about it but I'll that's what I'll go with bronze going Auburn. Even with the question marks around, JT Daniels the way that they're doing everything else in Georgia. I can't go against them right now. It's like Alabama Alabama is laying like 20 against am this week at that was on our board. I would I would lay the points. I'm going to lay the points because I think George is going to win this game by 20 plus I think it's games will be like 4220 4217 in bone X.

1:33:36 You're not going to be able to do pull Houdini this week. You try to pull a Houdini this week, you might not get a straight jacket. All right, Braun. The big one, Saturday afternoon. We will get to enjoy this game before the hoax. Yeah, yeah. Very good. Free beers. Penn State Iowa. I'm going to check this line one more time. See if anything's changed. Nope, still it to Iowa, getting the home to at kinnick. We know the stuff with kennick teams, who have been big ranked of went in there before. But Iowa's time is also bigger ink. And you pick the last one first.

1:34:19 So I got to pick this one and I'm going to go Iowa. I think Iowa might not have as many athletes at Penn State, but they are essentially doing what they do on both sides of the ball. And right now, I don't think Penn State haven't has enough. They don't have enough athletes to overcome that. Okay. I'm gonna go Penn State here and I don't like it, but, okay. I think I think, I think Penn State is playing as consistent football, as we've seen them play in a while. And I think they see some vulnerabilities in other areas of the conference this year, and they feel like, if they can get past this, hump, they've got a pretty good path to potentially the Football playoff. So give me Penn State here.

1:35:15 Alright John, Braun down for Penn State on that. He will get two points. Anything breaking since we've been doing this for about an hour and a half. Number on Urban Meyer is not groped. Any other coeds in the time that we've been on air that we know of that, we know of that, we know of I'm just looking through here that he deserved a night out. Well the baseball game 1-1, bottom 7th chairs are in Wainwright or both out. So they have finished this off and buddy, let's just do it. Let's wrap it.

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