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And welcome back to The

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Boundary Corner Podcast,

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along with my partners,

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Brian Seigla and Jonathan Talley,

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and the family member himself,

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Dwight Vick, tonight.

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I'm Curtis Wilson,

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and this episode is brought

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to you by Dr. Jeremy Counts

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down at Main Street

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Pharmacy in Blacksburg,

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your friendly neighborhood pharmacy,

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301 South Main Street, Blacksburg,

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Virginia.

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Appearance number seven,

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but number one in our hearts,

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57 on the line.

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Dwight, how you doing tonight, man?

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The original.

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Yeah, man.

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Hey, I appreciate it, man.

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Listen, it's an honor to be back on, man.

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I got a radio show I do, a segment.

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I've done a lot of stuff, man.

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I've been very blessed.

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Hokie Nation continues to

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show me love when I come back for games.

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It's crazy, man, because linemen need love,

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too, and y'all show me a lot of love,

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man.

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I told you guys this.

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I keep telling you sometimes

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when I get on and listen or watch y'all,

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y'all got one of the top VT

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podcasts in the game, man.

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And that's real.

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I mean,

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the guests you guys have been having,

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the topics, it's lovely, bro.

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But thank you.

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I'm great.

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I'm blessed.

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Awesome.

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Awesome.

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The guest, we just said,

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you said the guest we'd be having too,

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you the guest.

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You the honorary number one guest.

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Yes.

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So, hey, man,

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we appreciate you coming in here.

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We know you got a lot of

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things you could be doing

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or you do have to do,

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but you choose to spend a

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little bit of time with us.

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We'll jump right in it when

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we're talking about things to do.

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We know you got kids.

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We've been keeping up with you.

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Your son playing basketball.

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Your daughter's out there ODU, right?

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Man, my oldest daughter, yeah.

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Oldest daughter out there, ODU.

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Can I ask you a quick question?

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Go ahead.

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How'd she feel after September?

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How did daddy lay it on her?

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Oh,

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she was salty because she was talking a

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lot at the first year, her freshman year.

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Even on my dirty suburban,

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she wrote in the back of the window, ODU,

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whatever, some little thing,

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just trolling, bruh.

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I said, you grew up a Hokie fan.

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You even went to the Tech-UVA game at UVA.

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and we're trolling UVA fans

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at the UVA bar.

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You know, you're a Vic,

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but she's also a mama.

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So, yeah, she was trolling,

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but it felt good because I

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don't really talk trash,

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but if anyone knows me, once I talk,

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I let you have it.

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I am also a.k.a.

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Petty Vic.

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I keep receipts.

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I got that Virgo memory,

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so I remember a lot of stuff.

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And, you know, funny thing,

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I mentioned my birthday being a Virgo.

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We played ODU on the 14th.

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We can't lose that game.

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That's my birthday.

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Oh, man.

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Can't lose that game.

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We cannot lose that one, man.

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I don't care who's birthday it's on.

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We can't lose that.

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That would be a horrible start.

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We're going to get to that.

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We're going to need to talk about that.

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We want to stay on the kids

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and the family for just a minute.

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Isaiah, state runner-up, right?

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Yeah, two years in a row, state runner-up.

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State runner-up.

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Who did they get beat by?

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It's funny, Tally.

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They played Southlake,

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the team they beat early in the season.

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Who has Jordan Scott?

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Jordan Scott plays at the South Lakes.

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For those that know Virginia

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high school basketball, South Lakes,

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rich in tradition, was built in 77.

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Patriot's only 12 years old as a school.

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And Isaiah finished his school,

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his record at Patriot, 89 and 13,

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and had a great year.

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Just was named all-state, second team,

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all-region, first team, all-digit.

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Had a great junior year,

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but just a great career.

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They played South lakes

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early in the season.

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And Isaiah was a key factor with 17,

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seven and seven,

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seven boys and seven assists,

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but had a monster dunk that

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was trending online, but South lakes,

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they would do.

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We missed shots that we would,

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we normally make with our eyes closed.

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Isaiah who shoot shot this past year,

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80% from the field.

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He missed seven or eight free throws.

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He was only one or two or

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something from the field.

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It just,

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His teammate and longtime

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friend and brother, Tay Barber,

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who's going to Harvard to

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play there in the fall,

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he only scored 11.

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He was our leading scorer.

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He was 4-13, and Desmond, the point guard,

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was 0-8 from the field.

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He did have nine points,

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but it all came at the free throw line.

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It's just one of those games, man, because

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You know,

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sometimes you got to tip your hat

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and say they made the shots,

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they made the plays,

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and just was a tough loss.

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But, you know, I look at his career.

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He's just scratching the

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surface as a player.

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You know,

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he's getting a lot of interest and calls.

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It's so different now with the portal.

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Yeah.

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He's got a couple of small offers,

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but he's been contacted by

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Boston College.

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Radford has reached out.

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Wagner, who just won,

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Wagner reached out about

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him three weeks ago.

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I know a lot of people are

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texting and wondering online.

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Right now,

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the deal is we're going to

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possibly prep because he's only 17.

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He turns 18 in May.

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He's still growing.

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If we do prep, we'll go for a junior,

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but he's going to play with New World,

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the AAU organization,

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one of the best AAU teams

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in the DMV up here in the D.C.

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area,

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which has a lot of college connections.

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You know, again,

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he's going down to ODU to

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visit his older sister.

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He's going to work out with Jason Wade,

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just finished his senior

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year at ODU as a basketball player.

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So God has a plan.

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We've got a lot of interest

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with his skill set inside

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to handle the ball.

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He can play defense.

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He can guard one through five.

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It's coachable.

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He can score.

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I mean, he's got things to work on.

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But right after the loss, just I said this,

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we can move on.

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Right after the loss, you know,

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it's emotional.

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You watch your son's career end,

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even though it's a remarkable career.

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And if you have kids,

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everyone's going to go through this.

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Because when they are hurt

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and they're sick,

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you're hurt and you're sick.

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You know,

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seeing him break down during the

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runner-up trophy

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presentation and watching

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Southlake cheer and celebrate,

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you can't hide from that disappointment.

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But it was tough to watch.

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But then when I think about it,

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I know God has a plan.

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It's just different because

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you have to be patient.

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You have to work hard.

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And he came home, rested for a day.

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And that weekend, that Sunday and Monday,

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he was in the gym working out.

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And went in the garage,

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was just working out.

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And respect the Southlakes.

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They got a kid named Jordan Scott.

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He's got a tech offer.

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Virginia Tech has got about

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22 Power 5 offers.

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His mom played at Michigan State.

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She's a Southlakes alumni.

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And then his dad

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played at Miami.

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So he's basketball royalty.

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You guys,

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if you follow high school basketball,

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you hear more about him.

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Again,

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Tech was there to see him when Patriot,

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my son's team, beat him.

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I thought maybe they might

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scratch and knock at Isaiah's door,

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but it's okay.

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We're going to see what happens,

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and I'm happy my son had a great career.

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I mean, you know, he chose, it's weird,

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he started off with football, but me,

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Mike, and Marcus,

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and all of us stayed with football.

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He chose basketball to put

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the right thing on, man.

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Heck yeah, man.

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Heck yeah, we love to hear it, man.

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We love to hear it.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, I mean,

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I saw you earlier kind of

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piggybacking off this with

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the basketball.

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You had some thoughts on the VHSL.

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Oh, gosh.

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And some of those rules, man.

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I saw it out there.

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I figured I had to throw it

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out there to you.

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So, hey, B,

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I've been holding back because

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I'm very aware –

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Because if I would have been

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tweeting and talking,

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my son is a sophomore, junior,

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and senior.

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If you saw Remember the Titans, man,

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Virginia has progressed.

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We're a blue state now,

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but some people still get petty.

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Remember the Titans?

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They were trying to blackball Denzel,

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trying to cheat him.

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So I didn't want to say anything.

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But now that my son's graduating in May,

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I'm not holding back.

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The VHSL, even with the voting,

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how they did for Allstate this year,

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the fact that I grew up in Virginia,

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I'm a proud Virginian.

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I played football and basketball.

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for two Hall of Fame coaches,

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Coach Brower in basketball,

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Coach Mike Smith.

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The truth of the matter is,

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it's just different.

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And I'm not one of those guys,

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as y'all all know,

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that my day was so much better, and AAA,

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AA, and single A was so much better.

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We are a huge state.

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South Virginia's grown.

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Northern Virginia's booming.

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I live up here.

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It's overcrowded.

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The 757 is growing.

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Richmond is growing.

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You gotta have classifications.

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But in Virginia,

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we have six on basketball

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and football and all the other sports.

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And

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Each region does things differently,

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even for the playoffs.

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I'll share this with you and

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your viewers and listeners.

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Classic example.

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My son's team played Oscar

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Smith in the state semis at

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Hilton High School in Woodbridge,

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a neutral site,

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but Patriot was the higher seed,

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so it was up here.

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I go to watch OP girls play Thomas Dale,

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Thomas Dale girls, before my son plays.

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Back in the day, a doubleheader

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or triple header was held,

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you bought your ticket,

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you were there the whole day, night,

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or whatever.

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The VHSL.

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Oh, I see what they were doing.

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They made us.

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You had to buy two tickets for both games.

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If you were there for the OP

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Osborne Park Thomas Dale game,

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the announcer, who was a friend of mine,

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made an announcement.

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Security, police, and everybody, ADs,

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made everyone clear the gym,

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go back outside after the game was over,

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wait in the cold and rain,

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and then reenter with your

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electronic ticket,

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and you had to go back in.

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It was insane.

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And I'm just like, what?

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Why?

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It's just dumb.

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It's dumb.

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And, you know,

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football is at an all-time bad.

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It's all at an all-time low.

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I mean, you got three and seven teams,

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including my alma mater,

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one of the best programs in VHSL history,

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Hampton High,

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two years ago made the

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playoffs at three and seven.

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I played in the year, well, my senior year,

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we finished 8-2,

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and we needed a team to lose,

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and we had to beat Bethel

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because Iverson was locked up,

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so we ended up winning 23-7.

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But we had to win that game,

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and I think we needed

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Norview to lose in Norfolk, and we got in,

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and we lost to Norcom,

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who won states that year out of Portland.

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But that's how hard it was.

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I don't know, man.

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I'm not going to stop now

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that my son's out because I

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didn't want any shaming that's going on.

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But I'm going to speak.

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And I'm not even one of

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those guys that stirs a pot.

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I'm very conscious of what I tweet,

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what I say.

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But I'm not going to lose

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sight of the fact that

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what's wrong is wrong or

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what's right is right.

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What you see now in this

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world with the NCAA, the VHSL,

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even if you want to get political,

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Even the educational system,

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there are a lot of people

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making decisions that don't

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understand how it affects

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the people you're making decisions for.

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From the college football

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playoffs to conference realignment to NIL,

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the portal,

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there are a lot of decisions being made.

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And, like,

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y'all need to get the right

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people in the room, man.

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That's all I'm going to say, man.

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It's just crazy.

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All right.

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I'm going to jump in because

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I had this to talk later on,

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but you brought it up.

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Let's talk about it.

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Let's talk about NIL, man.

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Because if you look across

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the boards at sites,

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you hear people's insights

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in talking about the Hokies.

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I mean,

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it's considered a top 25 NIL product.

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It sure is.

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I mean, top 25 NIL product.

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You don't seem surprised by that.

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So why?

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Why are we already there?

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Go ahead.

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Brendan Hill, who's now coaching,

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he's kind of backed off with Twitter,

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but I would chime in with

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him because I would try to

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tell people on Twitter spaces.

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I'm not calling people liars.

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I'm not that guy, but I know,

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and have always known

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Virginia tech collectors

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have money as a matter of fact, uh,

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April 4th or 5th,

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I'm meeting up with some

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boosters in Alexandria city

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of Alexandria for some

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cocktails and drinks and dinner.

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I think my cousin Mike's going to be there,

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some other former players

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and some other donors.

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I'm like, damn, bro.

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We got people that got money.

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Like we think about tech,

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you think about Bruce Smith,

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Mike and Holden on the Today Show.

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Nah, bro.

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We got donors that own

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construction companies that

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know people like Tony Soprano.

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We got money to burn, man.

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Like people just be talking like, oh,

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you know, we don't have it.

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You know, yes.

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That article that came out

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right before the season started.

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shed some light in how we

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weren't or we were misusing

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stuff or the whole thing

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with john belen and all of

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that but I still know and

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I've always known curtis

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we've had a group of people

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that really care about tech

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and that donate money I've

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been around them I've hung

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out with them I've been

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even um last spring game I

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was up in the suite with

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kevin jones and all those

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guys and aaron rouse and

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there was a lot of money up

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there a lot of important people

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you wouldn't even know it

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man people think money you

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see in the drip and the

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jewels a lot of times it's

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like nah they got they got

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on some khakis from tj maxx

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and the polo it's not what

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you think and they're real

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chill but in all

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seriousness man we have a

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great in our nil uh triumph

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is doing a great job and

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there are a lot of people

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who really want to see

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virginia tech succeed in

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all sports and they're

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donating their time and

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money I'm seeing it good to hear

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yeah and I mean we it's been

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a whole lot from a national

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perspective in terms of nil

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and in terms of some of

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these other things that

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we're that we're talking

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about I mean you got you

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know you got one team

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that's like uh unionizing

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players you know there

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might be you know there's

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talk of like in the future

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trying to get collective

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bargaining on the table

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like what are your thoughts

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on nil and how it's trying

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to you know move forward

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with these do uh these new type of rules

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I'm learning more about it every day,

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every week, every month.

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I mean,

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I don't I've never thought that it

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was a bad thing.

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I've always just wanted some parameters.

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I just saw an article this

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morning about and what's her name?

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Reese, Angela Reese, Angel Reese,

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Angel Reese.

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Talk about how discouraged

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she was and surprised how

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she had to pay taxes on her NIL money.

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And when I told people,

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am I going to go to jail

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for tax evasion in the

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middle of a tournament?

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I wrote an article, as you all know,

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I used to write for 247 sports.

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And before that,

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I used to write for rivals

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at Hokie Haven.

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One of my favorite articles

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I wrote wasn't even my best one,

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but it was one of my

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favorites because I can relate to it,

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was the fact that I've

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always felt life skills was

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essential in helping people

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understand the student

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athletes and students in

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general on how to manage money,

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and what it meant to have

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the understanding of being

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adult and being self-sufficient.

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And that's my only concern

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because we've seen the 34 thirties,

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the sports illustrated

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articles about how 78% of

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NFL and 79% of NBA players

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go broke after being done.

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And,

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I just think that it's still an issue.

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And I mean,

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it's just because you don't

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think the money is going to run out.

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I remember when we used to

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get our bowl per damn, bro.

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We used to get our bowl per

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damn for the sugar bowl and

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the orange bowl.

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And that was back in the late 90s.

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I know these guys are

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getting way more than what we got.

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I remember getting my money

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and I went to five straight bowls.

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So my redshirt year, you know,

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it was nothing.

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But like my sophomore, junior, senior year,

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I was like, you get the gear,

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but you could opt out and say,

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you know what, keep that gear,

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give me the money.

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And I remember getting like,

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seven hundred dollars or

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eight hundred for one bowl

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game and I just remember

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going back home to the 757

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even when we got back to

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roanoke blacksburg going to

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new river valley mall and

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just buying up just going

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crazy you know and you

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realize that ain't no money

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but you know we nope I i

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was just happy but then my

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last couple years I

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remember like saving a

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little bit getting my mom

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and my girlfriend who's not

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my wife's gifts and

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You know,

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spending money and managing money

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is a skill.

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It's not it needs to become

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habitual when it comes to saving.

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And, you know,

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old girl Reese is one of

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many people that's going to

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get caught up.

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But I think it's a good thing.

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But I think if you don't

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have leadership or some

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type of systematic approach involved,

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it can get messy.

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And I think, you know,

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I know a lot of people have

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been on statement about his

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comments when he went in

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front of Congress about it.

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I don't know Nick Saban.

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He never recruited me.

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I've never had a conversation with him.

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I know my cousin knows him,

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but at the end of the day,

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I have to respect what he's saying.

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But at the same time,

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we're all part of the bunch

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that made this the mess that it is.

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We all helped create it.

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I mean, I posted, you know, B,

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you follow me on Instagram,

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my personal stuff,

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and you follow me on like,

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so you know how funny I

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like to be with movies and clips.

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You know,

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I even posted on Twitter about my

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man from blue trips who went in there and

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The white dude that was, you know,

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wanted a tractor for his dad.

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Oh, yeah.

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He was the first guy that came in,

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tried to secure the bag.

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And he told the coach, he was like,

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I'm a white player, American, you know,

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bread or whatever.

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I'm paraphrasing.

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I'd like to get $30,000 cash.

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And he was just talking

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about what he needed after

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the recruiting visit.

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And I was like, damn,

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that was in the early 90s.

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So that stuff has been going on.

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And look, I wrote for Rivals in 247.

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So I interviewed a lot of

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prospects over the last year,

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talked to them.

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I've been around.

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I was just talking to Tim Settle yesterday,

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Tim Settle Jr.

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yesterday,

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congratulating him on his deal

00:19:35.683 --> 00:19:36.285
with the Texans.

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So I've been around this

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even before my son was playing ball,

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and I know what goes on.

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So this is nothing new.

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So in a lot of ways,

00:19:44.667 --> 00:19:46.268
don't get mad when kids are

00:19:46.288 --> 00:19:47.368
getting even more greedy

00:19:47.449 --> 00:19:49.588
when the NCAA has been greedy,

00:19:49.829 --> 00:19:51.390
college coaches have been greedy.

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We've all been greedy.

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We've all been greedy.

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You know,

00:19:54.862 --> 00:19:56.603
the NFL added one additional game.

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So, you know, it is what it is, man.

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Now you created a monster where kids,

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you know,

00:20:01.186 --> 00:20:02.647
know their worth and they want money.

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And it's not about coming

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from a situation from the

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south or from up north

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where you don't have much.

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It doesn't matter if you

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grow up in a suburban environment.

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These kids want to get paid.

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I come from a different time

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when you just won the

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scholarship and you wanted

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a chance to get a degree

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and go to the NFL.

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These kids want – I mean,

00:20:19.301 --> 00:20:20.963
look at Baker with UNC.

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I feel like he's been there seven years.

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you know so he wants to get

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paid and he's probably

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living very well you know I

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mean I tell you it's wild

00:20:33.340 --> 00:20:34.221
we talk about the system

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all the time and you know

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I've been on record as you

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know I'm very pro NIL I'm

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very pro player across the

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board I do think that

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having some guardrails up

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there is necessary but when

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we think about the history

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of college football I mean

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and just looking at the

00:20:48.128 --> 00:20:49.529
last you know 20 to 30 years I mean

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The money made off the backs

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of players is incredible.

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And when you think about the

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ramification of the bag dropping game,

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the player is the one that

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gets screwed the most if

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that shit comes to light.

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Speaking of facts, B, look,

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at the end of the day, man,

00:21:10.087 --> 00:21:11.307
my best example is my

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cousin because I was there.

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I recruited him in tech.

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His mom was driving a school bus.

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He lived in Easton, Newport News,

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where my grandmother stayed, my nana,

00:21:21.132 --> 00:21:21.913
my dad grew up.

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Easton, Newport News,

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then and now is no damn joke.

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He didn't even have a suit

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for the Heisman.

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I've talked about this on

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your show previously and other platforms.

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And the truth of the matter is,

00:21:33.836 --> 00:21:39.058
is that he made tech a lot of money.

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I mean, think about this.

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He is still, in 2024, an icon.

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Their kids, nine years old, I meet.

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They're like, Michael Vick.

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And I'm like, oh, you nine years old, bro.

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I'm just telling you.

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And think about like because

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Tech was already doing very good.

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I was part of the build.

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I was there when it started.

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But Mike just put us in a

00:22:01.678 --> 00:22:02.878
zone where after that

00:22:02.919 --> 00:22:04.099
national championship game,

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everybody was recruiting

00:22:05.701 --> 00:22:06.722
quarterbacks like him.

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he gave birth not

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figuratively but you know

00:22:09.768 --> 00:22:11.328
in the sense of marketing

00:22:11.348 --> 00:22:12.769
to lamar jackson and

00:22:12.848 --> 00:22:15.509
russell and list goes on

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and on my homes and then

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you look at what he did for

00:22:18.270 --> 00:22:19.852
virginia tech I mean when I

00:22:19.872 --> 00:22:21.092
got to tech in 94 man we

00:22:21.112 --> 00:22:23.053
had like three hotels bro I

00:22:23.093 --> 00:22:24.473
mean it's crazy now with

00:22:24.513 --> 00:22:25.673
all the little overpass and

00:22:25.713 --> 00:22:26.614
underpass and all these

00:22:26.634 --> 00:22:27.835
different exits and roads

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so nil is crazy man but

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You know,

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I think about how Mike was living

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in an apartment like a

00:22:35.001 --> 00:22:35.781
regular college student.

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He didn't have a bunch of money,

00:22:38.202 --> 00:22:39.202
and people thought he was

00:22:39.222 --> 00:22:40.144
getting paid like that.

00:22:40.344 --> 00:22:40.804
He wasn't.

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Not under Beamer's watch.

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And one last point before we

00:22:43.984 --> 00:22:44.984
move to the next question.

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I've always said this.

00:22:46.566 --> 00:22:48.726
I've talked about this on other platforms.

00:22:49.586 --> 00:22:51.586
Virginia Tech, even now,

00:22:51.666 --> 00:22:52.728
with the booming of

00:22:52.788 --> 00:22:53.788
Southwest Virginia and the

00:22:53.847 --> 00:22:54.728
growth of the campus,

00:22:55.648 --> 00:22:58.349
unlike Georgia Tech and Miami,

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which is in South Beach,

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And this is going to sound crazy,

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but hear me out.

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It's tough to cheat or do

00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:05.941
what Miami and other schools did,

00:23:05.980 --> 00:23:08.161
because if you have a

00:23:08.280 --> 00:23:09.421
Hummer or you got

00:23:09.602 --> 00:23:11.122
prostitution or helicopters

00:23:11.162 --> 00:23:12.301
picking your girlfriend up,

00:23:13.102 --> 00:23:14.663
everybody in Blacksburg and

00:23:14.722 --> 00:23:17.324
Radford and Floyd and everywhere.

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It is in college town.

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So.

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Even when I was there back in the day,

00:23:25.686 --> 00:23:26.027
you know,

00:23:26.186 --> 00:23:27.926
or even when I go back and it's

00:23:27.967 --> 00:23:28.807
grown so much,

00:23:29.248 --> 00:23:30.647
but it's still a Southwest.

00:23:31.167 --> 00:23:32.489
You can't do all that stuff

00:23:32.509 --> 00:23:34.709
you did at other schools

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because Atlanta is always jumping.

00:23:36.950 --> 00:23:38.451
You got Georgia Tech, you got Georgia.

00:23:38.911 --> 00:23:39.711
It's a lot to do.

00:23:39.770 --> 00:23:41.171
People go there, you know,

00:23:41.511 --> 00:23:42.511
to do other stuff,

00:23:42.672 --> 00:23:44.051
to get wings at the club

00:23:44.112 --> 00:23:45.532
where Gilbert Arenas and them hang out.

00:23:45.553 --> 00:23:47.692
You got concerts and all that.

00:23:48.153 --> 00:23:49.334
We had concerts at Tech

00:23:49.354 --> 00:23:50.653
where they came to Radford

00:23:50.794 --> 00:23:52.954
or Virginia Tech or most likely Roanoke.

00:23:53.529 --> 00:23:54.790
So it's tough to get stuff

00:23:54.810 --> 00:23:55.892
jumped off there because

00:23:56.011 --> 00:23:56.832
everybody's going to know

00:23:56.872 --> 00:23:57.752
what you're driving.

00:23:58.653 --> 00:23:59.273
And you ain't going to hear

00:23:59.294 --> 00:24:01.214
about no kingpin setting up

00:24:01.234 --> 00:24:02.256
shop in Blackburg.

00:24:02.415 --> 00:24:03.195
It just ain't happening.

00:24:06.238 --> 00:24:07.439
Tell me what you got on this, man.

00:24:08.118 --> 00:24:09.480
You had to jump off for a second there.

00:24:09.940 --> 00:24:10.701
Yeah.

00:24:11.060 --> 00:24:13.162
Well, I got a lot,

00:24:13.202 --> 00:24:13.782
but I ain't going to go

00:24:13.843 --> 00:24:14.943
into all of what I got.

00:24:15.003 --> 00:24:16.984
But I did want to say this from earlier.

00:24:18.153 --> 00:24:20.155
Virginia high school basketball,

00:24:20.435 --> 00:24:21.836
Alabama high school basketball,

00:24:22.218 --> 00:24:23.479
high school basketball in general,

00:24:23.838 --> 00:24:26.362
get a fucking shot clock, please.

00:24:27.843 --> 00:24:29.023
That's what I need y'all to do.

00:24:29.625 --> 00:24:30.766
Get a fucking shot clock.

00:24:30.806 --> 00:24:31.886
I'm tired of seeing people

00:24:31.906 --> 00:24:34.608
get a 6-2 lead and hold a

00:24:34.648 --> 00:24:35.789
ball at the top of the key

00:24:36.109 --> 00:24:37.010
for a whole quarter.

00:24:37.432 --> 00:24:38.673
That shit needs to stop.

00:24:40.094 --> 00:24:42.036
Now back to your regular schedule program.

00:24:42.056 --> 00:24:43.116
We're talking about NIF.

00:24:43.672 --> 00:24:45.992
Hey, Tally, look, real quick, what's crazy,

00:24:46.093 --> 00:24:48.313
I'm in the DMV when you hit at D.C.,

00:24:48.333 --> 00:24:49.894
Maryland, and Northern Virginia, right?

00:24:50.473 --> 00:24:50.894
D.C.

00:24:50.953 --> 00:24:52.933
and Maryland, right beside us,

00:24:53.314 --> 00:24:54.595
have shot clocks for high

00:24:54.634 --> 00:24:55.595
school basketball.

00:24:57.174 --> 00:24:59.276
But yet the VHSL last summer,

00:24:59.296 --> 00:25:00.615
this past summer,

00:25:00.715 --> 00:25:02.416
approved student athletes

00:25:02.457 --> 00:25:03.517
to get NIL money.

00:25:04.545 --> 00:25:06.045
which I thought was insane

00:25:06.105 --> 00:25:06.685
because this is a

00:25:06.705 --> 00:25:08.306
conservative group of people.

00:25:08.786 --> 00:25:10.365
Yet you won't get a shot clock.

00:25:10.906 --> 00:25:11.807
Get a shot clock.

00:25:11.987 --> 00:25:13.047
Make it 40 seconds.

00:25:13.686 --> 00:25:15.607
Make it 60 seconds.

00:25:15.788 --> 00:25:16.627
They don't care about the

00:25:16.688 --> 00:25:18.008
integrity of the game, man.

00:25:18.208 --> 00:25:19.709
They're worried about, you know,

00:25:19.808 --> 00:25:22.429
things lying in their pockets.

00:25:23.108 --> 00:25:24.869
Hey, let me ask you this, Dwight.

00:25:24.910 --> 00:25:25.890
One more question on NIL

00:25:25.910 --> 00:25:27.210
before we jump to the next subject.

00:25:28.030 --> 00:25:28.851
Next 10 years,

00:25:29.411 --> 00:25:30.911
how important is it for the

00:25:30.971 --> 00:25:33.372
program to have that right support staff?

00:25:33.432 --> 00:25:33.632
Like,

00:25:34.412 --> 00:25:35.271
Like, I mean,

00:25:35.291 --> 00:25:36.073
are we going to have to have

00:25:36.133 --> 00:25:38.374
financial planners on staff

00:25:38.773 --> 00:25:39.253
for all these?

00:25:39.273 --> 00:25:39.453
Like,

00:25:39.894 --> 00:25:42.315
you just got an $80,000 that you need

00:25:42.355 --> 00:25:43.736
to go down there and see John.

00:25:43.875 --> 00:25:44.996
John knows what to help you

00:25:45.036 --> 00:25:46.656
do with the money, help you invest it.

00:25:47.257 --> 00:25:48.798
He'll tell you if it's a good purchase.

00:25:49.337 --> 00:25:49.637
I mean,

00:25:49.837 --> 00:25:51.419
is that going to become – are we

00:25:51.439 --> 00:25:51.979
going to have, like,

00:25:52.038 --> 00:25:53.119
financial planners sitting

00:25:53.160 --> 00:25:54.539
on staff 10 years from now?

00:25:54.799 --> 00:25:55.079
You know,

00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:56.361
you need it because here's the thing.

00:25:56.381 --> 00:25:57.361
You're getting money in college.

00:25:57.381 --> 00:25:58.821
You're getting money in high school,

00:25:58.882 --> 00:25:59.981
Curtis, and on top of it.

00:26:00.502 --> 00:26:01.863
I remember my cousin Mike

00:26:01.883 --> 00:26:03.003
was talking about he was

00:26:03.064 --> 00:26:03.903
sitting in a room

00:26:04.484 --> 00:26:05.566
with Jim Kelly's brother,

00:26:05.605 --> 00:26:06.507
the great quarterback for

00:26:06.527 --> 00:26:07.426
the Buffalo Bills.

00:26:08.729 --> 00:26:09.648
And he said his, you know,

00:26:09.689 --> 00:26:11.089
his brother had a financial

00:26:11.191 --> 00:26:11.990
management company,

00:26:12.010 --> 00:26:12.991
and they were also agents.

00:26:13.653 --> 00:26:14.933
And I was talking with Mike

00:26:15.054 --> 00:26:16.355
after the meeting, he was like, you know,

00:26:16.375 --> 00:26:18.777
they had flow charts and portfolios.

00:26:19.116 --> 00:26:19.396
Yeah, well,

00:26:19.416 --> 00:26:21.739
we come from the 757 then and now,

00:26:22.279 --> 00:26:23.621
we didn't grow up around that shit.

00:26:23.820 --> 00:26:25.883
We I went to a public school,

00:26:26.303 --> 00:26:27.304
Hampton High didn't get air

00:26:27.324 --> 00:26:28.865
conditioned until my senior year,

00:26:29.266 --> 00:26:29.885
we went to school.

00:26:29.925 --> 00:26:30.906
So if it was too hot,

00:26:31.586 --> 00:26:32.586
We had to get out early.

00:26:32.646 --> 00:26:33.807
We had inhumane living

00:26:33.846 --> 00:26:36.827
conditions in regards to going to school.

00:26:36.907 --> 00:26:37.867
It was very difficult.

00:26:37.948 --> 00:26:38.508
And you're supposed to be in

00:26:38.528 --> 00:26:39.748
a conducive learning environment.

00:26:40.167 --> 00:26:42.068
We come, I don't get all deep.

00:26:42.108 --> 00:26:43.108
Like we come from the mud

00:26:43.148 --> 00:26:43.888
and the slums because

00:26:43.929 --> 00:26:44.548
Virginia Beach and

00:26:44.568 --> 00:26:45.509
Chesapeake has some very

00:26:45.568 --> 00:26:47.430
great places to live and reside.

00:26:47.849 --> 00:26:48.490
So does Hampton.

00:26:48.529 --> 00:26:49.250
I lived in a good

00:26:49.289 --> 00:26:50.170
neighborhood once we moved

00:26:50.230 --> 00:26:50.890
off Shell Road.

00:26:50.910 --> 00:26:52.550
But my point being is, man,

00:26:52.570 --> 00:26:54.371
a lot of us then and now don't know.

00:26:54.911 --> 00:26:56.250
Unless you come from a home

00:26:56.810 --> 00:26:57.971
where you have family that

00:26:58.031 --> 00:26:59.011
teaches about 401s and 457s

00:27:00.874 --> 00:27:02.714
and portfolios and just

00:27:02.775 --> 00:27:04.217
saving your money and

00:27:04.277 --> 00:27:05.156
putting something aside.

00:27:05.436 --> 00:27:06.178
We're just trying to get

00:27:06.238 --> 00:27:07.798
turned up and just get something.

00:27:07.818 --> 00:27:08.779
And a lot of times, man,

00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:09.881
even when I got a little

00:27:09.901 --> 00:27:10.641
bit of money I got,

00:27:10.701 --> 00:27:11.922
I just send something back home.

00:27:12.482 --> 00:27:13.182
You know what I'm saying?

00:27:13.323 --> 00:27:14.864
And it's just the way it is.

00:27:14.963 --> 00:27:16.526
And it's not even a black or white thing.

00:27:16.586 --> 00:27:18.626
It's just more so an awareness thing.

00:27:18.747 --> 00:27:19.567
Because there's some white

00:27:19.647 --> 00:27:20.428
people and other people

00:27:20.448 --> 00:27:21.368
that come from environments

00:27:21.648 --> 00:27:22.490
where they don't know either.

00:27:22.950 --> 00:27:24.211
But my point being is this.

00:27:25.551 --> 00:27:26.633
The game is changing.

00:27:26.712 --> 00:27:27.733
And props seems to have a

00:27:27.794 --> 00:27:29.194
good pulse on what's going on.

00:27:29.833 --> 00:27:30.913
And I've always felt that

00:27:30.973 --> 00:27:32.794
coaches that get ahead of stuff,

00:27:33.295 --> 00:27:34.355
that look ahead,

00:27:34.375 --> 00:27:35.675
they'll set their players

00:27:35.796 --> 00:27:37.056
up to be straight.

00:27:37.496 --> 00:27:38.997
Because I can tell you right now,

00:27:39.017 --> 00:27:42.018
despite my complaining or my concerns,

00:27:42.598 --> 00:27:43.558
the money in college

00:27:43.578 --> 00:27:45.680
football and basketball is going to grow.

00:27:45.799 --> 00:27:47.540
It's so funny how when we

00:27:47.560 --> 00:27:49.040
talk about recessions or whatever,

00:27:49.060 --> 00:27:50.082
when it comes to sports,

00:27:50.582 --> 00:27:51.643
the money's still there.

00:27:52.002 --> 00:27:53.123
As a matter of fact,

00:27:53.182 --> 00:27:54.644
I heard this morning on one

00:27:54.663 --> 00:27:56.065
of my sports shows I listen to,

00:27:56.384 --> 00:27:57.065
they're talking about

00:27:57.105 --> 00:27:59.145
expanding the NCAA tournament again.

00:28:00.028 --> 00:28:00.269
Yeah.

00:28:00.909 --> 00:28:01.509
You know what I'm saying?

00:28:01.569 --> 00:28:02.710
And look, gambling,

00:28:02.890 --> 00:28:04.211
I know I got my parlays.

00:28:04.651 --> 00:28:08.452
You know, money is crazy right now, man.

00:28:08.492 --> 00:28:09.894
Like everybody's gambling.

00:28:10.453 --> 00:28:11.414
I know shorties that are

00:28:11.434 --> 00:28:12.414
gambling right now, man.

00:28:12.454 --> 00:28:13.135
It's crazy.

00:28:14.175 --> 00:28:14.435
Yeah.

00:28:14.676 --> 00:28:16.136
They're going to have to get that, man.

00:28:16.196 --> 00:28:18.018
Because if you're going to preach family,

00:28:18.117 --> 00:28:19.259
you're going to preach this is home.

00:28:19.298 --> 00:28:19.999
It's not just tech.

00:28:20.419 --> 00:28:21.180
If you're going to really

00:28:21.220 --> 00:28:22.721
want to look out for these young men,

00:28:23.401 --> 00:28:24.221
you know, we,

00:28:24.240 --> 00:28:25.442
you have your Gerard Evans

00:28:25.501 --> 00:28:26.403
and you have your

00:28:26.982 --> 00:28:29.064
quarterbacks and your star players, um,

00:28:29.901 --> 00:28:32.182
got caron um drones and all

00:28:32.202 --> 00:28:33.345
those guys who I think is

00:28:33.365 --> 00:28:34.184
going to be a heisman

00:28:34.226 --> 00:28:35.507
candidate when it's all

00:28:35.547 --> 00:28:36.948
said and done but you also

00:28:36.988 --> 00:28:37.608
have your middle of the

00:28:37.628 --> 00:28:39.049
pack players who are going

00:28:39.069 --> 00:28:40.711
to get smaller deals and

00:28:40.731 --> 00:28:42.053
they need help you know

00:28:42.173 --> 00:28:43.255
they need help we need to

00:28:43.474 --> 00:28:44.496
what do I do with thirty

00:28:44.536 --> 00:28:46.136
thousand dollars right you

00:28:46.156 --> 00:28:46.998
know what do I mean for

00:28:47.018 --> 00:28:47.878
real think about when you

00:28:47.898 --> 00:28:49.540
were 19 what thirty

00:28:49.580 --> 00:28:50.382
thousand dollars look like

00:28:50.402 --> 00:28:51.142
because I remember when my

00:28:54.097 --> 00:28:55.038
I'm 38, and if I got 30,000,

00:28:55.038 --> 00:28:56.838
it's going to get blue right now.

00:28:59.140 --> 00:29:00.059
Yo, yo, that's crazy.

00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:01.220
My cousin called me.

00:29:01.900 --> 00:29:02.819
I was living in Fairfax.

00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:04.401
I had just gotten married in 2001.

00:29:04.441 --> 00:29:05.661
He was the first overall pick.

00:29:05.980 --> 00:29:07.500
I remember Mike called me and was like, yo,

00:29:07.520 --> 00:29:08.882
Dwight, man, come down and live with me.

00:29:08.922 --> 00:29:09.741
I'll take care of you.

00:29:10.402 --> 00:29:11.162
And he was just talking to

00:29:11.182 --> 00:29:12.262
me about the money he got.

00:29:12.343 --> 00:29:13.222
And then when I went down

00:29:13.242 --> 00:29:15.083
there about four years, five years later,

00:29:15.123 --> 00:29:16.182
he was the face of the league.

00:29:16.242 --> 00:29:17.483
This is when Brady and

00:29:17.523 --> 00:29:18.443
Manning were still playing.

00:29:19.115 --> 00:29:19.976
And he was getting ready to

00:29:19.996 --> 00:29:21.257
sign a record contract.

00:29:21.277 --> 00:29:23.517
He was the highest paid player in the NFL.

00:29:23.798 --> 00:29:24.518
He was about to be.

00:29:25.178 --> 00:29:26.057
And I remember sitting with him.

00:29:26.077 --> 00:29:26.979
We were in Atlanta.

00:29:27.179 --> 00:29:28.259
And we were in a gated

00:29:28.278 --> 00:29:30.259
community where little Bow Wow lived,

00:29:30.299 --> 00:29:31.700
David Justice and Allie Berry.

00:29:32.140 --> 00:29:32.759
We're in Atlanta.

00:29:32.820 --> 00:29:33.000
Like,

00:29:33.020 --> 00:29:34.361
you can't even go in this neighborhood,

00:29:34.441 --> 00:29:34.721
right?

00:29:35.560 --> 00:29:36.961
We in there, me and him hanging out.

00:29:37.721 --> 00:29:39.403
And I remember he showed me on his laptop.

00:29:39.423 --> 00:29:41.002
He just pulled it up.

00:29:41.242 --> 00:29:41.762
He said, yo,

00:29:41.782 --> 00:29:43.284
sometimes I just stare at this, man.

00:29:43.904 --> 00:29:44.865
And it was his bank account.

00:29:44.904 --> 00:29:46.905
I remember seeing to this day, it's crazy.

00:29:46.925 --> 00:29:48.507
It's like seeing the golden

00:29:48.586 --> 00:29:50.008
ticket you got from Willy Wonka.

00:29:50.508 --> 00:29:51.468
It was crazy because I was

00:29:51.488 --> 00:29:52.188
looking at his screen.

00:29:52.228 --> 00:29:54.849
It was like twenty seven million dollars.

00:29:56.369 --> 00:29:57.671
And you go from getting per

00:29:57.711 --> 00:30:01.711
diem from Bruce and Berlin,

00:30:02.292 --> 00:30:03.053
ten dollars a week.

00:30:03.887 --> 00:30:04.989
that was the game money we

00:30:05.028 --> 00:30:07.769
got or bowl game money to $27 million,

00:30:08.050 --> 00:30:08.550
bro.

00:30:08.750 --> 00:30:09.611
That's crazy.

00:30:09.731 --> 00:30:10.092
That's crazy.

00:30:10.112 --> 00:30:10.711
That's crazy.

00:30:11.051 --> 00:30:11.692
It's crazy.

00:30:12.113 --> 00:30:12.792
Well, you hit on,

00:30:12.853 --> 00:30:14.453
you was hitting on a lot of stuff, man.

00:30:14.654 --> 00:30:15.075
And I know,

00:30:15.095 --> 00:30:16.875
I know we ain't got you all

00:30:16.935 --> 00:30:17.576
night tonight.

00:30:17.615 --> 00:30:19.317
I know we got some other stuff to do, but,

00:30:19.376 --> 00:30:21.739
um, we talked a couple of things that no,

00:30:21.778 --> 00:30:22.398
you all good.

00:30:22.499 --> 00:30:23.099
You all good.

00:30:23.180 --> 00:30:24.420
I, uh, I,

00:30:24.641 --> 00:30:26.481
I wanted to chime in a little bit

00:30:26.501 --> 00:30:28.262
with the triumph, um, um,

00:30:28.982 --> 00:30:31.845
NIL that Virginia tech has, um,

00:30:32.642 --> 00:30:34.845
From what I hear, I'm just a fan,

00:30:35.404 --> 00:30:37.067
but reliable sources tell

00:30:37.106 --> 00:30:38.808
me that Triumph has

00:30:38.868 --> 00:30:41.231
Virginia Tech moving in the

00:30:41.271 --> 00:30:42.732
right direction in the NIL.

00:30:43.253 --> 00:30:44.434
They said they already have

00:30:44.955 --> 00:30:46.458
people in place that are

00:30:46.498 --> 00:30:47.679
talking to kids about

00:30:48.611 --> 00:30:51.291
financial planning, which is awesome.

00:30:52.132 --> 00:30:54.553
Everybody, you should feel good out there.

00:30:54.853 --> 00:30:55.814
I think we're moving in the

00:30:55.854 --> 00:30:56.433
right direction.

00:30:56.594 --> 00:30:56.953
Dwight,

00:30:57.354 --> 00:31:00.454
we want to change it up just a

00:31:00.494 --> 00:31:00.875
little bit.

00:31:01.234 --> 00:31:02.895
Start talking some high school recruiting.

00:31:04.155 --> 00:31:05.756
We know you are boots on the

00:31:05.817 --> 00:31:08.196
ground as far as knowing a

00:31:08.257 --> 00:31:09.596
lot of these kids,

00:31:09.757 --> 00:31:11.498
knowing the areas and things like that.

00:31:11.998 --> 00:31:14.057
You said a few minutes ago

00:31:14.097 --> 00:31:15.057
that you feel like Pryor

00:31:15.417 --> 00:31:16.479
had gotten out ahead of

00:31:16.499 --> 00:31:17.459
some things and he was

00:31:17.499 --> 00:31:18.338
doing some things right.

00:31:19.259 --> 00:31:20.539
We've seen an uptick in

00:31:20.579 --> 00:31:21.619
recruiting in Virginia,

00:31:22.279 --> 00:31:24.500
specifically the 757.

00:31:24.500 --> 00:31:26.361
What is resonating right now?

00:31:26.401 --> 00:31:28.760
What is he doing that's got

00:31:28.800 --> 00:31:31.122
Virginia taking the uptick?

00:31:31.162 --> 00:31:32.461
What's crazy, bro, is

00:31:34.019 --> 00:31:36.239
He's following Beamer's blueprint.

00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:37.519
He's making it more modern.

00:31:38.339 --> 00:31:39.880
I kept saying all Fuente had

00:31:39.920 --> 00:31:41.560
to do was just evolve and

00:31:41.601 --> 00:31:43.861
build on Beamer's blueprint

00:31:43.941 --> 00:31:46.142
and make it more modern and

00:31:46.801 --> 00:31:48.582
get on social media, be more hip,

00:31:49.001 --> 00:31:50.442
talk to the fans.

00:31:50.462 --> 00:31:52.663
And we got this guy coming

00:31:52.722 --> 00:31:54.663
and roll out the red carpet.

00:31:54.863 --> 00:31:56.084
And I'm telling you, man,

00:31:56.124 --> 00:31:57.324
Proz is doing what makes sense.

00:31:57.644 --> 00:31:58.763
The crazy thing now,

00:31:58.884 --> 00:32:00.025
and it's crazy how quickly

00:32:00.045 --> 00:32:01.204
this thing has turned around,

00:32:02.164 --> 00:32:03.445
Between Triumph and the

00:32:03.546 --> 00:32:04.906
Collectives and what you

00:32:04.926 --> 00:32:06.087
got going on with them and

00:32:06.127 --> 00:32:07.209
how they're connecting with

00:32:07.249 --> 00:32:09.131
the former players and the

00:32:09.871 --> 00:32:11.011
superstar former players

00:32:11.071 --> 00:32:11.932
and current players,

00:32:12.032 --> 00:32:13.634
and then you look at what Pry is doing,

00:32:14.154 --> 00:32:15.655
it's a really good hustle right now,

00:32:15.675 --> 00:32:16.636
and a hustle in a good way.

00:32:16.656 --> 00:32:18.057
It's a great marriage right now.

00:32:18.659 --> 00:32:21.621
Pry is making Virginia Tech hip again.

00:32:22.281 --> 00:32:22.501
Like,

00:32:23.123 --> 00:32:23.962
I don't know how to – I'm just

00:32:24.002 --> 00:32:25.144
telling you, I'm a Virginian,

00:32:25.444 --> 00:32:26.685
and I remember in the 90s

00:32:26.986 --> 00:32:27.586
and even the early 2000s,

00:32:29.076 --> 00:32:29.958
when I was done playing,

00:32:29.998 --> 00:32:30.961
but I was still like a

00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:32.203
former player where I just

00:32:32.223 --> 00:32:32.744
finished playing.

00:32:32.765 --> 00:32:34.509
I was still playing some pro

00:32:34.549 --> 00:32:35.491
ball and working out for

00:32:35.551 --> 00:32:37.317
NFL scouts and doing arena ball.

00:32:37.833 --> 00:32:39.512
And when I went home in the

00:32:39.813 --> 00:32:41.673
2000s or when I was in D.C.

00:32:42.134 --> 00:32:43.894
or even when I went to Chicago one time,

00:32:44.394 --> 00:32:45.673
people knew about tech.

00:32:46.034 --> 00:32:46.914
I remember I would have on

00:32:46.974 --> 00:32:47.734
tech sweatsuits.

00:32:47.755 --> 00:32:48.755
We were on video games.

00:32:49.194 --> 00:32:50.994
This is back when East Bay was popping.

00:32:51.474 --> 00:32:53.816
And when you went to Virginia Beach,

00:32:53.855 --> 00:32:54.435
Chesapeake,

00:32:54.476 --> 00:32:56.395
Newport News or the 804 in Richmond,

00:32:56.855 --> 00:32:57.476
it was like, yo,

00:32:57.496 --> 00:32:58.435
I'm trying to go to tech.

00:32:58.496 --> 00:33:00.396
Like, you got to understand something,

00:33:00.416 --> 00:33:00.517
man.

00:33:00.537 --> 00:33:01.416
A lot of those guys we

00:33:01.436 --> 00:33:02.936
missed out on were tech fans.

00:33:02.977 --> 00:33:04.857
Derek Nottie, Josh Sweat.

00:33:05.478 --> 00:33:07.317
They were all tech fans growing up.

00:33:07.699 --> 00:33:09.599
Smoke Mazel was a Tech fan.

00:33:10.059 --> 00:33:11.601
Andrew Brown was a Tech fan.

00:33:11.681 --> 00:33:13.020
I'm naming guys.

00:33:13.280 --> 00:33:15.342
We burned that thoroughbred bridge, man.

00:33:18.282 --> 00:33:19.002
And see, again,

00:33:19.022 --> 00:33:20.163
that's funny you said that

00:33:20.243 --> 00:33:22.585
because Fry knows Coach Red

00:33:22.684 --> 00:33:23.585
and the Colt boys.

00:33:23.904 --> 00:33:25.506
The Colt boys are a group

00:33:25.546 --> 00:33:27.666
down in 757 that have tons

00:33:27.747 --> 00:33:30.488
of guys in the 757 that are

00:33:30.548 --> 00:33:32.167
only 7-on-7 teams that are

00:33:32.228 --> 00:33:34.128
really young in the upcoming studs.

00:33:34.608 --> 00:33:36.170
And the truth of the matter is that

00:33:37.451 --> 00:33:40.593
they know pride and they know tech.

00:33:41.554 --> 00:33:42.653
Just for the lack of a

00:33:42.693 --> 00:33:44.055
better phrase or whatever,

00:33:44.075 --> 00:33:45.476
he's just making tech great again.

00:33:45.516 --> 00:33:47.198
He's making them hip.

00:33:47.218 --> 00:33:48.317
We still have a long way to

00:33:48.377 --> 00:33:49.538
go to get back to where we

00:33:49.578 --> 00:33:51.259
want to be because my goal,

00:33:51.300 --> 00:33:52.421
I'm surprised the same goal

00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:53.201
is to exceed the

00:33:53.281 --> 00:33:55.143
expectations of just 10 and

00:33:55.143 --> 00:33:55.963
11 win seasons,

00:33:56.003 --> 00:33:57.204
but to be relevant to the

00:33:57.285 --> 00:33:59.705
point where you wake up on Sunday morning,

00:33:59.747 --> 00:34:01.548
you expect to see us in the top 15,

00:34:01.548 --> 00:34:02.508
top 12 in the ranking.

00:34:03.148 --> 00:34:03.548
Kids are

00:34:05.028 --> 00:34:06.028
The thing about it is, man,

00:34:06.088 --> 00:34:08.690
kids are checking for tech now, man.

00:34:08.869 --> 00:34:09.889
They're checking for tech.

00:34:09.909 --> 00:34:13.050
Like, kids in Norfolk, like, they're like,

00:34:13.070 --> 00:34:13.811
yeah, I'm going to tech.

00:34:13.831 --> 00:34:14.311
You going to?

00:34:14.331 --> 00:34:15.710
You got to understand something.

00:34:15.731 --> 00:34:17.030
I know this is a true story.

00:34:17.492 --> 00:34:18.831
Tyrod Teller is my guy.

00:34:19.291 --> 00:34:20.452
He played in my high school.

00:34:21.032 --> 00:34:22.452
We both were Hanson High Cravers.

00:34:22.972 --> 00:34:24.032
He saw me play.

00:34:24.112 --> 00:34:25.333
I remember seeing Tyrod as a

00:34:25.353 --> 00:34:26.672
middle schooler throwing

00:34:26.693 --> 00:34:28.173
the ball at my neighbor's

00:34:28.213 --> 00:34:29.054
house because he was tight

00:34:29.074 --> 00:34:29.914
with their grandson.

00:34:30.585 --> 00:34:32.829
And Tyrod knew about tech.

00:34:32.909 --> 00:34:34.451
And when Tyrod was being recruited,

00:34:34.791 --> 00:34:36.072
him and Ryan Williams and

00:34:36.132 --> 00:34:37.034
all them met up one time.

00:34:37.054 --> 00:34:37.795
I don't know if they were at

00:34:37.815 --> 00:34:38.815
track meet or whatever.

00:34:39.197 --> 00:34:40.038
But they were somewhere.

00:34:40.077 --> 00:34:40.699
They were like, yo.

00:34:41.286 --> 00:34:42.067
I'm feeling sick, man.

00:34:42.106 --> 00:34:42.847
I'm going to go there.

00:34:42.887 --> 00:34:44.449
Like, you know, remember now,

00:34:44.608 --> 00:34:45.710
we used to be so cool.

00:34:45.730 --> 00:34:47.731
We had household names like Marcus Vick,

00:34:48.152 --> 00:34:50.193
Aaron Rouse, and all those guys.

00:34:50.273 --> 00:34:51.333
And I remember we played in

00:34:51.414 --> 00:34:52.896
NC State one time on a

00:34:53.797 --> 00:34:54.817
Saturday night game.

00:34:54.896 --> 00:34:56.918
It was the 2005 season.

00:34:57.298 --> 00:34:58.360
And we were at NC State,

00:34:58.400 --> 00:34:59.440
first time playing them.

00:34:59.802 --> 00:35:01.362
And I remember we scored a touchdown.

00:35:01.762 --> 00:35:03.844
And Marcus and them posed like Marcus.

00:35:04.306 --> 00:35:06.266
and hyman and justin harper

00:35:06.306 --> 00:35:07.268
and all the guys on the end

00:35:07.307 --> 00:35:08.527
zone and they were posing

00:35:08.568 --> 00:35:09.449
taking pictures and they

00:35:09.469 --> 00:35:10.869
were doing like this and

00:35:10.889 --> 00:35:11.949
they were doing like that

00:35:12.409 --> 00:35:13.590
dj parker and all those

00:35:13.630 --> 00:35:15.391
guys we had so many

00:35:15.472 --> 00:35:16.552
virginians and they were

00:35:16.572 --> 00:35:18.313
just superstars in their

00:35:18.393 --> 00:35:19.753
own state and it became I

00:35:20.835 --> 00:35:22.155
remember um chris chris

00:35:22.195 --> 00:35:23.356
coleman for tech sideline

00:35:23.416 --> 00:35:25.356
said virginia tech is

00:35:25.396 --> 00:35:26.438
virginia's favorite team

00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:28.119
because you know the

00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:29.581
washington commanders then

00:35:29.601 --> 00:35:31.681
the redskins were trash um

00:35:31.900 --> 00:35:32.661
they you know they were

00:35:32.681 --> 00:35:34.782
owned by snyder um uva was

00:35:34.802 --> 00:35:35.702
still rebuilt they've been

00:35:35.742 --> 00:35:36.963
rebuilding for a long time

00:35:37.742 --> 00:35:38.782
and you know liberty didn't

00:35:38.802 --> 00:35:40.344
even have football or they

00:35:40.384 --> 00:35:41.543
were whatever I don't think

00:35:41.563 --> 00:35:42.545
they had football yet oh

00:35:42.585 --> 00:35:44.224
you didn't have football we

00:35:44.244 --> 00:35:46.346
were the team you know and

00:35:46.385 --> 00:35:47.326
you had the entrance you

00:35:47.346 --> 00:35:48.646
had the fan the alumni and

00:35:48.666 --> 00:35:49.527
the one thing I want to say

00:35:49.567 --> 00:35:50.947
real quick and we go to the next question

00:35:51.909 --> 00:35:53.371
The alumni and fan base,

00:35:53.411 --> 00:35:54.632
despite this transition

00:35:54.652 --> 00:35:56.893
from Beamer to Fuente to Frye,

00:35:57.474 --> 00:35:58.576
they're one reason why

00:35:58.596 --> 00:35:59.876
we've been able to right the ship.

00:36:00.318 --> 00:36:01.980
Because as bad as we've been

00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:03.581
and underachieved as we've been,

00:36:04.521 --> 00:36:06.704
great podcasts like yours, Don V,

00:36:06.764 --> 00:36:08.967
all these other shows, and the fan base,

00:36:09.630 --> 00:36:10.793
Virginia Tech fan base on

00:36:10.813 --> 00:36:12.315
Twitter is lit all the time.

00:36:12.775 --> 00:36:14.556
It could be a Tuesday night and we're lit.

00:36:14.938 --> 00:36:15.998
When we come and you give us

00:36:16.079 --> 00:36:17.340
a product that's worth watching,

00:36:17.780 --> 00:36:18.661
last year at home,

00:36:18.762 --> 00:36:20.384
Virginia Tech was on fire.

00:36:20.664 --> 00:36:21.826
Virginia Tech recruits were

00:36:21.846 --> 00:36:23.268
there to see it.

00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:28.759
Like,

00:36:28.838 --> 00:36:30.980
it felt – that game against Syracuse

00:36:31.019 --> 00:36:33.101
felt so much like the

00:36:33.221 --> 00:36:34.842
overhyped Miami game when

00:36:34.882 --> 00:36:36.543
we hosted Percy Harvin and

00:36:36.603 --> 00:36:37.702
over 200 recruits.

00:36:38.202 --> 00:36:39.503
We went to bed that night.

00:36:39.943 --> 00:36:40.784
We didn't play well.

00:36:41.304 --> 00:36:42.784
But we had so many people

00:36:42.804 --> 00:36:43.925
there because Virginia Tech

00:36:44.445 --> 00:36:45.987
was in the top three in the nation.

00:36:46.306 --> 00:36:47.666
Number five in the nation, I believe,

00:36:47.686 --> 00:36:47.887
yeah.

00:36:47.947 --> 00:36:51.048
So, you know, I know it's a long answer,

00:36:51.088 --> 00:36:52.208
but I just feel like it was

00:36:52.289 --> 00:36:53.949
relevant to the question.

00:36:54.570 --> 00:36:55.610
All right, Dwight, real quick.

00:36:55.650 --> 00:36:56.610
I'm going to throw this to

00:36:56.630 --> 00:36:57.831
him before I throw it to Curtis.

00:36:58.748 --> 00:36:59.208
Give me,

00:36:59.329 --> 00:37:00.630
because you always do this when

00:37:00.650 --> 00:37:03.891
you come on, give me, I usually say one,

00:37:03.911 --> 00:37:05.851
I'm going to say two kids

00:37:06.813 --> 00:37:08.514
that we need to look out for.

00:37:08.534 --> 00:37:09.373
I ain't saying they going to

00:37:09.393 --> 00:37:10.054
Virginia Tech.

00:37:10.534 --> 00:37:12.135
I'm just saying two Virginia kids,

00:37:12.876 --> 00:37:15.697
there's 25 kids that we

00:37:15.737 --> 00:37:16.617
need to be looking for.

00:37:17.498 --> 00:37:18.137
I don't have,

00:37:18.998 --> 00:37:20.559
because I've been in basketball mode,

00:37:20.699 --> 00:37:22.500
so hit me with that next

00:37:22.539 --> 00:37:24.161
time we do our season preview.

00:37:24.481 --> 00:37:28.043
But I do have a kid I'm very high on, and

00:37:28.826 --> 00:37:29.927
It's going to sound like a homer,

00:37:29.967 --> 00:37:30.728
but this kid,

00:37:31.307 --> 00:37:32.849
his name is Jackson McCarter.

00:37:33.329 --> 00:37:34.150
And there's another kid.

00:37:34.170 --> 00:37:34.911
I got two for you,

00:37:34.952 --> 00:37:36.492
but one you probably heard of.

00:37:36.934 --> 00:37:38.994
Jackson McCarter is a running back.

00:37:39.576 --> 00:37:40.836
He is super fast.

00:37:40.876 --> 00:37:42.197
He runs track at Patriot,

00:37:42.237 --> 00:37:43.179
but he plays football.

00:37:43.659 --> 00:37:45.822
He was just there on a visit last week.

00:37:46.242 --> 00:37:48.643
You probably saw me retweet his tweet.

00:37:48.764 --> 00:37:50.907
He is an animal.

00:37:51.347 --> 00:37:52.327
I'm telling you right now.

00:37:52.788 --> 00:37:53.369
He's a kid.

00:37:54.418 --> 00:37:55.358
One of those kids that's a

00:37:55.378 --> 00:37:56.358
Virginia Tech guy.

00:37:56.820 --> 00:37:57.460
Like he just,

00:37:57.880 --> 00:37:59.780
he can run the football and he gets out,

00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:00.722
you're not catching him.

00:38:01.081 --> 00:38:02.402
But the number one guy,

00:38:02.623 --> 00:38:03.943
I really wish we can land.

00:38:03.983 --> 00:38:05.005
I hope we can land him.

00:38:05.445 --> 00:38:06.465
I've seen him play since he

00:38:06.525 --> 00:38:07.985
was nine years old.

00:38:08.025 --> 00:38:09.746
His name is Jeff Overton Jr.

00:38:10.327 --> 00:38:11.909
He played in the Freedom Woodbridge.

00:38:12.268 --> 00:38:13.210
Oh yeah, we heard about it.

00:38:13.269 --> 00:38:16.451
I coached against him in youth ball.

00:38:16.512 --> 00:38:17.692
My son played against him.

00:38:18.512 --> 00:38:19.132
And then of course,

00:38:19.152 --> 00:38:20.434
my son went to basketball.

00:38:20.494 --> 00:38:21.715
Jeff stuck with football.

00:38:22.155 --> 00:38:23.795
His dad won a state championship.

00:38:24.349 --> 00:38:25.329
His dad is his coach.

00:38:25.389 --> 00:38:26.831
His uncle just won

00:38:26.871 --> 00:38:27.652
back-to-back state

00:38:27.672 --> 00:38:28.313
championships at

00:38:28.333 --> 00:38:30.096
Freedomwood Bridge last

00:38:30.135 --> 00:38:31.677
this past season over my brother,

00:38:31.717 --> 00:38:33.338
Loren Johnson, at Highland Springs.

00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:38.324
And then the previous year, he won against,

00:38:39.186 --> 00:38:41.248
I forgot the team, not Stonebridge,

00:38:41.288 --> 00:38:42.909
but they won back-to-back

00:38:42.929 --> 00:38:43.811
state championships.

00:38:44.409 --> 00:38:45.829
And Jeffrey Overton Jr.,

00:38:45.849 --> 00:38:46.829
if you ever see his tape,

00:38:47.409 --> 00:38:51.010
he is going to remind you of Reggie Bush.

00:38:51.030 --> 00:38:52.632
He is electric.

00:38:53.092 --> 00:38:54.052
He can carry.

00:38:54.512 --> 00:38:55.233
He can run.

00:38:55.373 --> 00:38:56.574
And he is shifty.

00:38:57.074 --> 00:38:58.074
And he is a playmaker.

00:38:58.094 --> 00:39:00.135
He has offers from NC State.

00:39:00.155 --> 00:39:00.715
Well, probably.

00:39:01.014 --> 00:39:01.855
I know he has an offer from

00:39:01.954 --> 00:39:03.076
Ohio State and Clemson.

00:39:03.835 --> 00:39:05.617
And he's been to Tech a few times.

00:39:05.697 --> 00:39:07.478
Tech was just in with their entire staff,

00:39:07.557 --> 00:39:08.358
or at least five of them,

00:39:08.797 --> 00:39:09.677
to meet with him a couple

00:39:09.697 --> 00:39:12.440
of months ago up here in the 703.

00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:13.320
He is an animal.

00:39:13.420 --> 00:39:14.521
I'm telling you right now.

00:39:14.541 --> 00:39:16.481
Jeffrey Overton.

00:39:16.561 --> 00:39:19.782
Jeffrey Overton Jr., he is a game changer.

00:39:19.802 --> 00:39:21.282
He's a program changer.

00:39:21.302 --> 00:39:22.744
Remember I said Pryor has to

00:39:22.764 --> 00:39:23.784
start stacking his Mount

00:39:23.844 --> 00:39:24.923
Rushmore recruits?

00:39:25.344 --> 00:39:26.485
That's a guy.

00:39:26.985 --> 00:39:28.125
You look what Tootin' doing,

00:39:28.605 --> 00:39:30.925
he is Tootin' already.

00:39:31.166 --> 00:39:32.827
Tootin' with how he's all-purpose yards,

00:39:32.847 --> 00:39:33.606
kickoff returns.

00:39:34.407 --> 00:39:35.547
Jeffrey Overton Jr.

00:39:35.606 --> 00:39:37.288
is the same kind of back.

00:39:37.887 --> 00:39:39.728
Again, like Brandon Orr,

00:39:39.748 --> 00:39:41.208
the moment he touched it, he's like boom,

00:39:41.228 --> 00:39:41.748
boom, boom.

00:39:42.677 --> 00:39:43.277
even better.

00:39:43.597 --> 00:39:44.458
Now, here's the thing.

00:39:45.798 --> 00:39:46.900
You got to keep recruiting him.

00:39:47.420 --> 00:39:48.661
That's when that NIL money,

00:39:48.820 --> 00:39:50.141
I've never talked to his

00:39:50.181 --> 00:39:51.141
dad about his son.

00:39:51.161 --> 00:39:51.981
I don't do all that.

00:39:52.483 --> 00:39:53.242
I didn't get involved with

00:39:53.262 --> 00:39:54.224
Greg Stroman's recruiting

00:39:54.284 --> 00:39:55.164
or Tim Settle Jr.

00:39:55.143 --> 00:39:56.005
's, but I will tell you,

00:39:56.025 --> 00:39:57.826
you got to take care of him

00:39:57.846 --> 00:39:58.626
because he's going to have

00:39:58.686 --> 00:39:59.726
even more people on him.

00:39:59.907 --> 00:40:01.128
His uncle just left Freedom

00:40:01.168 --> 00:40:01.728
and he's coaching at

00:40:01.768 --> 00:40:03.909
Hayfield up in Alexandria now,

00:40:03.929 --> 00:40:04.849
but they're going to be a

00:40:04.889 --> 00:40:05.849
contender again for states

00:40:05.869 --> 00:40:07.110
because his uncle, Darrell Overton,

00:40:07.150 --> 00:40:08.331
is a phenomenal coach.

00:40:08.871 --> 00:40:09.893
He's an officer genius.

00:40:09.952 --> 00:40:10.152
And then

00:40:10.885 --> 00:40:11.925
The last guy I'll throw out

00:40:11.965 --> 00:40:12.945
there is a guy y'all

00:40:12.965 --> 00:40:14.126
probably are familiar with, man.

00:40:14.186 --> 00:40:14.806
It's Peanut,

00:40:15.385 --> 00:40:16.746
Lauren Johnson's youngest son.

00:40:17.246 --> 00:40:18.226
He's a linebacker.

00:40:18.867 --> 00:40:20.246
He's one of those guys, again,

00:40:20.266 --> 00:40:21.367
you have his brother there,

00:40:22.927 --> 00:40:23.927
Breeland at Tech.

00:40:24.367 --> 00:40:27.208
But Peanut has even got more dog in him.

00:40:27.969 --> 00:40:29.648
And he's got offers from Auburn,

00:40:29.768 --> 00:40:30.688
SEC schools.

00:40:31.329 --> 00:40:32.269
He's the heart and soul of

00:40:32.289 --> 00:40:33.469
Highland Springs defense.

00:40:33.969 --> 00:40:34.929
And we got a little bit of a

00:40:34.989 --> 00:40:36.311
pipeline going with Highland Springs.

00:40:36.371 --> 00:40:38.170
I like that because those guys win games.

00:40:38.715 --> 00:40:39.856
And I feel like what Beamer

00:40:39.876 --> 00:40:40.958
always did a great job of

00:40:41.018 --> 00:40:41.699
is getting winners.

00:40:41.759 --> 00:40:42.559
And one thing I know from

00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:43.902
even my son being recruited

00:40:44.442 --> 00:40:46.644
is that coaches that know

00:40:46.664 --> 00:40:48.246
how to coach like winners

00:40:48.407 --> 00:40:49.387
and talented players.

00:40:50.289 --> 00:40:52.552
So keep those names in your back pocket,

00:40:52.592 --> 00:40:52.853
man.

00:40:53.434 --> 00:40:54.534
I'm going to keep it in the back pocket.

00:40:54.614 --> 00:40:56.077
And he almost took my next

00:40:56.117 --> 00:40:57.157
question because.

00:40:58.173 --> 00:40:58.773
Give me this,

00:40:58.833 --> 00:40:59.735
because you talked about

00:40:59.795 --> 00:41:00.514
coaching winners.

00:41:01.054 --> 00:41:02.356
We know how many team captains.

00:41:02.396 --> 00:41:03.436
We know how many guys who

00:41:03.476 --> 00:41:04.657
are breaking state records,

00:41:04.916 --> 00:41:06.257
whether it be Virginia, North Carolina,

00:41:06.277 --> 00:41:06.818
other parts.

00:41:07.358 --> 00:41:08.699
But as guys who are sitting

00:41:08.739 --> 00:41:11.501
there on campus, do y'all notice that?

00:41:11.701 --> 00:41:12.521
Like, you know,

00:41:13.161 --> 00:41:14.021
like the way they carry

00:41:14.061 --> 00:41:16.322
themselves or like, like, for example,

00:41:17.684 --> 00:41:18.503
the running back from North

00:41:18.543 --> 00:41:20.184
Carolina who ran for 13.7 yards to carry.

00:41:22.010 --> 00:41:23.251
down in North Carolina last year,

00:41:23.411 --> 00:41:24.213
which is insane.

00:41:24.313 --> 00:41:25.353
Doesn't matter the level.

00:41:25.413 --> 00:41:26.534
It's insane you can do that.

00:41:27.074 --> 00:41:29.076
But when they walk in, what is that?

00:41:29.135 --> 00:41:30.396
Does it mean that the guys

00:41:30.476 --> 00:41:32.157
on the team see that and say,

00:41:33.179 --> 00:41:34.360
that guy plays his heart out.

00:41:34.460 --> 00:41:35.460
He plays a dog.

00:41:35.579 --> 00:41:36.780
That guy's got a level head.

00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:37.621
He's our captain.

00:41:38.342 --> 00:41:39.623
That guy won two state titles.

00:41:40.384 --> 00:41:42.364
Do you think about that when they come in,

00:41:42.385 --> 00:41:44.527
or is it now you're down here now,

00:41:44.666 --> 00:41:46.168
or is it how you come in

00:41:46.228 --> 00:41:46.867
and carry yourself?

00:41:47.248 --> 00:41:48.710
It's a level of you got to

00:41:48.769 --> 00:41:51.268
earn your spot here, but we know –

00:41:51.268 --> 00:41:52.449
Real recognize real.

00:41:52.489 --> 00:41:53.510
I know I hit y'all with an

00:41:53.530 --> 00:41:55.273
early 2000 hip hop reference,

00:41:55.333 --> 00:41:57.635
but real recognize real.

00:41:57.695 --> 00:41:59.956
Like you recognize a dog when you see one.

00:42:00.197 --> 00:42:02.378
And we talk, I mean, again,

00:42:02.398 --> 00:42:03.699
and this is before social media.

00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:04.780
So I know they do it now.

00:42:05.521 --> 00:42:07.583
Everybody has that high school pride.

00:42:07.684 --> 00:42:07.844
Like,

00:42:08.686 --> 00:42:09.648
Them Florida boys,

00:42:09.768 --> 00:42:10.807
even when they were on the team,

00:42:10.827 --> 00:42:11.889
would talk about Florida

00:42:11.909 --> 00:42:13.349
boys and high school players.

00:42:13.869 --> 00:42:14.429
When I was there,

00:42:14.449 --> 00:42:15.411
we talked about Ronald

00:42:15.451 --> 00:42:16.452
Curry and Mike Vick.

00:42:16.552 --> 00:42:19.512
Everyone knew, yo, Big Vick, Dwight Vick,

00:42:19.592 --> 00:42:21.393
constantly talks about his cousin Mike.

00:42:21.894 --> 00:42:23.516
I told everybody that would listen,

00:42:23.976 --> 00:42:25.456
y'all talking about Ronald Curry,

00:42:25.476 --> 00:42:26.237
and I love Ronald.

00:42:26.257 --> 00:42:26.936
He's one of the best

00:42:26.976 --> 00:42:28.938
quarterbacks in the history

00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:30.599
of the high school football.

00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:33.161
But you know when you got a

00:42:33.181 --> 00:42:34.681
guy that comes in, you're like, yo,

00:42:34.722 --> 00:42:35.661
we got to get this guy.

00:42:35.681 --> 00:42:36.623
You know, listen –

00:42:37.454 --> 00:42:38.735
You know, Curtis,

00:42:38.775 --> 00:42:40.436
when you're in practice and

00:42:40.476 --> 00:42:42.679
you see a young guy, you're like, yo, man,

00:42:42.739 --> 00:42:43.599
he should be playing.

00:42:43.639 --> 00:42:43.780
Like,

00:42:43.820 --> 00:42:45.340
the older guys whisper to each other.

00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.503
Like, I remember texting coaches at Tech,

00:42:49.563 --> 00:42:49.764
like,

00:42:49.844 --> 00:42:51.585
why the hell are you not playing

00:42:51.646 --> 00:42:52.867
Wyatt Teller more?

00:42:53.327 --> 00:42:54.387
Start his ass.

00:42:54.889 --> 00:42:56.210
what are we doing and then I

00:42:56.251 --> 00:42:57.552
got that bs well you know

00:42:57.592 --> 00:42:59.112
the guy runs the senior and

00:42:59.132 --> 00:43:00.713
I'm like man wyatt teller

00:43:00.793 --> 00:43:03.655
is a cyborg he is an animal

00:43:04.277 --> 00:43:05.637
he is he's got that you

00:43:05.677 --> 00:43:08.000
know and look curtis you

00:43:08.019 --> 00:43:08.840
talk to anybody it's not

00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:09.701
even a virginia tech thing

00:43:09.740 --> 00:43:10.882
you know when the car comes

00:43:10.961 --> 00:43:12.603
on his visit it's not even

00:43:12.643 --> 00:43:13.824
about the look or the eye

00:43:13.844 --> 00:43:14.824
test you just you

00:43:14.985 --> 00:43:16.465
especially now with with

00:43:16.505 --> 00:43:18.027
these things you see

00:43:18.086 --> 00:43:19.047
twitter you hear about

00:43:19.088 --> 00:43:19.987
people because everybody in

00:43:20.007 --> 00:43:20.989
the locker room is like yo

00:43:21.740 --> 00:43:23.141
Man, I got a cousin in Georgia.

00:43:23.161 --> 00:43:24.282
He's coming up here on a visit.

00:43:24.961 --> 00:43:27.402
He just won the state four by one,

00:43:27.862 --> 00:43:28.983
and he also hooped.

00:43:29.603 --> 00:43:29.762
Like,

00:43:30.083 --> 00:43:31.782
guys knew about Logan Thomas before

00:43:31.802 --> 00:43:32.802
he got to Virginia Tech.

00:43:33.282 --> 00:43:33.443
Like,

00:43:33.503 --> 00:43:35.284
you knew when Logan Thomas walked in.

00:43:35.684 --> 00:43:36.684
You had already heard about

00:43:36.724 --> 00:43:39.284
Logan Thomas because he was killing it.

00:43:39.764 --> 00:43:40.905
A lot of times you hear

00:43:40.925 --> 00:43:42.625
about these guys because

00:43:42.664 --> 00:43:44.085
they're really good guys that,

00:43:44.166 --> 00:43:45.126
especially during Tech's

00:43:45.166 --> 00:43:47.266
heyday and what you see with pride,

00:43:47.746 --> 00:43:48.646
you know about them from

00:43:48.686 --> 00:43:49.646
the state championships.

00:43:50.271 --> 00:43:51.831
I remember seeing Greg Deutsch.

00:43:52.552 --> 00:43:53.693
And I remember when Fuente

00:43:53.733 --> 00:43:54.474
first got to Tech,

00:43:54.514 --> 00:43:56.775
he was at the state semis

00:43:56.835 --> 00:43:57.755
when Lauren Johnson and

00:43:57.775 --> 00:43:59.496
them were hosting Indian River.

00:43:59.516 --> 00:44:00.277
And Indian River had a

00:44:00.317 --> 00:44:01.577
linebacker going to Alabama.

00:44:02.097 --> 00:44:02.757
And then they had another

00:44:02.797 --> 00:44:03.938
linebacker coming to Tech.

00:44:04.398 --> 00:44:05.500
He ended up committing to Tech.

00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.420
But Greg Deutsch put on a show.

00:44:07.501 --> 00:44:08.541
And Greg Deutsch said,

00:44:08.702 --> 00:44:10.722
please give me the Tech offer.

00:44:11.143 --> 00:44:13.704
What's crazy about that is in that game,

00:44:13.744 --> 00:44:14.664
you had Greg Deutsch who

00:44:14.684 --> 00:44:15.465
wanted to go to Tech.

00:44:15.865 --> 00:44:17.186
You had Kevon Wallace who

00:44:17.206 --> 00:44:18.266
won three national

00:44:18.286 --> 00:44:19.327
championships at Clemson.

00:44:19.650 --> 00:44:21.130
who wore number 12 because

00:44:21.170 --> 00:44:22.050
of Lauren Johnson,

00:44:22.610 --> 00:44:24.512
and he wanted to come to Tech,

00:44:24.972 --> 00:44:26.313
and we didn't pull the trigger.

00:44:26.773 --> 00:44:28.173
So when you're in high

00:44:28.233 --> 00:44:29.534
school and you're at Tech,

00:44:29.574 --> 00:44:32.376
you know about those dogs in Virginia,

00:44:32.436 --> 00:44:33.335
Maryland, and D.C.

00:44:33.416 --> 00:44:36.297
I remember Josh Morgan talking about guys.

00:44:36.336 --> 00:44:36.978
He's younger than me,

00:44:36.998 --> 00:44:37.858
but I remember you meet

00:44:37.878 --> 00:44:39.639
guys at a spring game,

00:44:40.018 --> 00:44:40.878
and you see the guys with

00:44:40.918 --> 00:44:42.840
those passes on the sideline.

00:44:42.860 --> 00:44:44.440
He was like, yo, see that kid right there?

00:44:44.460 --> 00:44:45.961
I remember Brian Edmonds,

00:44:46.021 --> 00:44:46.862
God rest his soul,

00:44:47.422 --> 00:44:48.804
told me about Macho Harris.

00:44:49.384 --> 00:44:51.125
Macho Harris was at the spring game.

00:44:52.545 --> 00:44:55.248
He said, listen, see that boy right there,

00:44:55.288 --> 00:44:55.947
Macho Harris?

00:44:55.987 --> 00:44:56.708
I said, what's his name?

00:44:56.748 --> 00:44:57.409
He said, Macho.

00:44:57.449 --> 00:44:58.269
I said, what's his real name?

00:44:58.510 --> 00:44:58.989
Macho.

00:44:59.449 --> 00:45:00.170
So that's all.

00:45:00.471 --> 00:45:01.751
So his name,

00:45:01.992 --> 00:45:03.952
that was his nickname because

00:45:03.972 --> 00:45:04.454
he was so good.

00:45:04.534 --> 00:45:05.653
We didn't know his real name.

00:45:05.713 --> 00:45:06.255
He said,

00:45:06.434 --> 00:45:07.614
Brian Edmonds and three other

00:45:07.655 --> 00:45:08.715
dudes from the 804 from the

00:45:08.735 --> 00:45:10.958
Rich Mary said, look, if he come here,

00:45:11.137 --> 00:45:12.117
he's a game changer.

00:45:12.137 --> 00:45:13.679
And so you know about it.

00:45:13.739 --> 00:45:14.760
And look what Macho did.

00:45:15.302 --> 00:45:16.163
One of the few guys that

00:45:16.182 --> 00:45:17.943
play both offense and defense with him.

00:45:18.164 --> 00:45:20.286
So, you know, Curtis, you know,

00:45:20.326 --> 00:45:22.027
you know about those dogs on the way.

00:45:22.188 --> 00:45:23.128
You know, listen,

00:45:23.628 --> 00:45:25.150
you know when you're getting a guy, man.

00:45:25.309 --> 00:45:26.791
Look, I'm going to tell you this.

00:45:26.871 --> 00:45:27.731
I know for a fact.

00:45:28.934 --> 00:45:29.813
Everybody in that locker

00:45:29.833 --> 00:45:30.675
room knew Drone should have

00:45:30.695 --> 00:45:31.396
been on the field earlier

00:45:31.416 --> 00:45:32.016
than when he was.

00:45:32.215 --> 00:45:32.916
Everybody knew.

00:45:32.976 --> 00:45:33.617
Oh, here we go.

00:45:33.637 --> 00:45:34.498
Everybody knew.

00:45:34.717 --> 00:45:35.338
Everybody knew.

00:45:35.579 --> 00:45:36.179
Everybody knew.

00:45:36.940 --> 00:45:37.440
All right.

00:45:38.001 --> 00:45:38.842
I.B., hit him up.

00:45:39.262 --> 00:45:40.222
I.B., we already there.

00:45:40.262 --> 00:45:40.882
Let's go ahead and talk

00:45:40.902 --> 00:45:41.523
about 2023 a little bit.

00:45:43.101 --> 00:45:44.621
um I mean I know I know you

00:45:44.681 --> 00:45:45.842
know that we were on record

00:45:45.902 --> 00:45:46.702
after the spring game

00:45:46.742 --> 00:45:48.224
saying start the man

00:45:49.164 --> 00:45:50.344
everybody on this podcast

00:45:50.364 --> 00:45:53.766
said it yeah yeah so I mean

00:45:53.786 --> 00:45:55.407
you know let's talk about

00:45:55.427 --> 00:45:56.708
that a little bit you know

00:45:56.728 --> 00:45:58.070
you get off to a slow start

00:45:58.130 --> 00:45:59.990
you know you you you start

00:46:00.251 --> 00:46:01.231
one quarterback you're

00:46:01.251 --> 00:46:03.213
working another one in um

00:46:05.494 --> 00:46:06.315
how do you think in the

00:46:06.375 --> 00:46:07.514
locker room this played out

00:46:07.554 --> 00:46:08.615
and you know no one really

00:46:08.655 --> 00:46:09.655
hitting the panic button

00:46:10.036 --> 00:46:11.237
that early after a rough

00:46:11.336 --> 00:46:11.978
one and three start

00:46:13.496 --> 00:46:14.177
Hold on, Dwight,

00:46:14.217 --> 00:46:15.257
before you even answer that.

00:46:15.297 --> 00:46:16.277
Before you even answer that.

00:46:16.998 --> 00:46:18.898
We got to go back to 2022.

00:46:20.898 --> 00:46:23.440
When we talk about the Twitter space,

00:46:23.539 --> 00:46:25.059
when everybody was going to

00:46:25.079 --> 00:46:26.260
jump into the Lake of Fire

00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:27.681
and you had to talk

00:46:27.721 --> 00:46:30.021
everybody off the ledge with LJ.

00:46:30.581 --> 00:46:32.481
When we went down there and lost the ODU,

00:46:32.621 --> 00:46:33.521
got our ass beat.

00:46:33.942 --> 00:46:34.961
They stole our stuff.

00:46:35.041 --> 00:46:36.762
We got trapped in the elevator.

00:46:37.443 --> 00:46:38.603
It was just a bad night.

00:46:38.842 --> 00:46:40.143
You had people following you

00:46:40.164 --> 00:46:41.284
to your car talking junk.

00:46:42.273 --> 00:46:43.554
All of that stuff went down.

00:46:43.594 --> 00:46:45.594
You talked us off the ledge in 2022.

00:46:46.135 --> 00:46:47.896
Now, we're going to go to 2023.

00:46:48.396 --> 00:46:48.615
Yep.

00:46:48.876 --> 00:46:49.996
You know, we know what happened in 2022.

00:46:50.077 --> 00:46:51.257
We're in 2023.

00:46:51.318 --> 00:46:52.998
What did we start, B?

00:46:53.318 --> 00:46:53.838
One and three?

00:46:54.438 --> 00:46:55.099
One and three.

00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:56.621
Okay, we're one and three.

00:46:57.721 --> 00:46:59.942
Now, you take us to what Big Vic?

00:47:00.001 --> 00:47:00.503
What Dwight?

00:47:00.583 --> 00:47:00.822
Well,

00:47:00.983 --> 00:47:02.443
I was checking in with people that I

00:47:02.483 --> 00:47:03.443
could check in with, too,

00:47:03.543 --> 00:47:04.525
and the word on the street

00:47:05.105 --> 00:47:06.726
was that it was time to see

00:47:06.746 --> 00:47:09.487
Drones take over as the quarterback.

00:47:09.626 --> 00:47:10.748
And the truth of the matter is,

00:47:14.161 --> 00:47:15.282
I had the mindset of I'm

00:47:15.302 --> 00:47:16.264
going to trust Pryor until

00:47:16.284 --> 00:47:17.146
the wheels fall off.

00:47:17.726 --> 00:47:18.708
I still trust Pryor,

00:47:18.748 --> 00:47:19.449
but I think it's one of

00:47:19.469 --> 00:47:21.411
those things where Brent Pryor,

00:47:21.431 --> 00:47:22.333
he's been on your show.

00:47:23.375 --> 00:47:24.115
He's one of those guys that

00:47:24.155 --> 00:47:25.518
takes ownership of his success,

00:47:25.557 --> 00:47:26.719
but also of his mistakes

00:47:26.778 --> 00:47:27.760
and missed apps or misses.

00:47:28.452 --> 00:47:30.715
And I knew he was going to get it right.

00:47:30.914 --> 00:47:32.615
I think drones came in.

00:47:32.735 --> 00:47:33.097
And, Tyler,

00:47:33.117 --> 00:47:34.597
you talked about this on this

00:47:34.637 --> 00:47:36.338
pod with you guys and in

00:47:36.378 --> 00:47:38.460
the Twitter space is that, you know,

00:47:38.541 --> 00:47:39.842
he came in even in that

00:47:39.882 --> 00:47:40.842
game against Purdue and

00:47:40.902 --> 00:47:41.844
showed us that he had the

00:47:41.903 --> 00:47:43.164
moxie and the right attitude.

00:47:43.844 --> 00:47:45.407
I think sometimes you have

00:47:45.447 --> 00:47:46.327
to figure things out.

00:47:46.367 --> 00:47:50.409
But I do remember when Tyrod

00:47:50.449 --> 00:47:52.692
got there and Tyrod was a five-star.

00:47:53.413 --> 00:47:54.574
One of the few five-stars

00:47:54.614 --> 00:47:55.454
Tech has gotten along with

00:47:55.494 --> 00:47:56.135
the Fuller brothers.

00:47:56.985 --> 00:47:58.387
And Sean Glennon was a damn

00:47:58.407 --> 00:47:59.068
good quarterback.

00:47:59.108 --> 00:48:00.608
He won an ACC championship,

00:48:01.048 --> 00:48:02.030
and he won us some games.

00:48:02.070 --> 00:48:04.251
But everybody knew Tyrod

00:48:04.492 --> 00:48:05.913
Taylor was that dude.

00:48:06.172 --> 00:48:08.695
And I remember when we played LSU,

00:48:09.675 --> 00:48:11.617
the LSU players, Dorsey and those guys,

00:48:11.657 --> 00:48:12.438
they went on and went to

00:48:12.458 --> 00:48:13.478
the national championship.

00:48:13.898 --> 00:48:14.900
We had a chance that year to

00:48:14.940 --> 00:48:15.880
back into it because we

00:48:15.900 --> 00:48:18.161
finished third in the BCS that year.

00:48:18.202 --> 00:48:19.342
But LSU ended up winning the

00:48:19.362 --> 00:48:20.603
first time in that

00:48:20.664 --> 00:48:22.425
timeframe era where

00:48:22.485 --> 00:48:23.525
national championship won

00:48:23.545 --> 00:48:24.706
the championship with two losses.

00:48:25.532 --> 00:48:27.293
But they said the game

00:48:27.353 --> 00:48:28.994
changed when Tyrod came in.

00:48:29.373 --> 00:48:31.275
Tyrod gave us our only score that night.

00:48:31.295 --> 00:48:33.597
We lost 44-7 at LSU.

00:48:34.436 --> 00:48:35.617
And the truth of the matter is,

00:48:35.697 --> 00:48:37.119
is that drones is cut from

00:48:37.139 --> 00:48:37.960
that same cloth.

00:48:38.579 --> 00:48:40.501
I think it was evident when he came in.

00:48:40.541 --> 00:48:41.702
It was just an energy,

00:48:41.822 --> 00:48:42.882
and he had an attitude.

00:48:43.443 --> 00:48:44.744
You saw him, and Tyler,

00:48:44.764 --> 00:48:46.505
you talked about this, and Curtis and V,

00:48:46.525 --> 00:48:47.284
you talked about it,

00:48:47.344 --> 00:48:48.766
how against Pittsburgh,

00:48:48.786 --> 00:48:49.585
he was running up on

00:48:49.626 --> 00:48:52.007
linebackers and DBs and grilling them and

00:48:52.556 --> 00:48:52.777
You know,

00:48:52.797 --> 00:48:54.739
he slammed that D tackle from Wake Forest,

00:48:54.778 --> 00:48:55.858
and it was like, damn,

00:48:56.340 --> 00:48:57.400
he about that life.

00:48:58.300 --> 00:49:00.483
And to me, he's marketable.

00:49:01.304 --> 00:49:02.103
I have him right now.

00:49:02.123 --> 00:49:03.204
I'll say it again on your show.

00:49:04.085 --> 00:49:05.106
I have him as a dark horse

00:49:05.126 --> 00:49:06.186
for a Heisman candidate.

00:49:06.807 --> 00:49:08.009
I think with everybody coming back,

00:49:08.068 --> 00:49:09.009
if the offense and Tyler

00:49:09.028 --> 00:49:10.309
Bowen does what I know he's going to do,

00:49:10.891 --> 00:49:11.530
it's going to get real

00:49:11.550 --> 00:49:12.472
spooky in Blacksburg.

00:49:12.492 --> 00:49:13.192
Turn loose.

00:49:13.672 --> 00:49:14.492
I felt this way.

00:49:14.512 --> 00:49:15.193
Turn loose.

00:49:15.673 --> 00:49:16.414
He got in the rhythm.

00:49:17.494 --> 00:49:22.275
I'm going to tell you all this too, man.

00:49:22.295 --> 00:49:23.956
I ain't nobody special, but like I said,

00:49:24.016 --> 00:49:25.235
Dwight is my uncle, man.

00:49:25.835 --> 00:49:29.737
I'm an honorary Vic family member,

00:49:29.777 --> 00:49:30.637
if y'all didn't know that.

00:49:31.056 --> 00:49:31.717
So me and Dwight,

00:49:31.757 --> 00:49:32.838
we talk a little bit more

00:49:32.858 --> 00:49:34.257
than maybe some of y'all.

00:49:34.297 --> 00:49:35.599
Y'all need to get on my level.

00:49:35.778 --> 00:49:36.438
You know what I'm saying?

00:49:36.498 --> 00:49:37.099
I'm sorry.

00:49:37.398 --> 00:49:38.119
No, but for real,

00:49:38.358 --> 00:49:40.000
Dwight will hit me up on

00:49:40.019 --> 00:49:41.420
some stuff that I'm not

00:49:41.460 --> 00:49:42.480
even paying to because I'm

00:49:42.500 --> 00:49:44.081
emotional about a game or something.

00:49:44.101 --> 00:49:45.340
And Dwight says something.

00:49:46.016 --> 00:49:46.815
I'm gonna air it out.

00:49:47.197 --> 00:49:48.297
So y'all getting some

00:49:48.336 --> 00:49:49.938
nuggets that y'all might not know.

00:49:50.217 --> 00:49:51.759
Dwight told me last year,

00:49:52.139 --> 00:49:55.981
whenever Kyron started playing,

00:49:56.101 --> 00:49:57.121
he wasn't starting really.

00:49:57.922 --> 00:49:59.242
He was playing and we kept

00:49:59.282 --> 00:50:00.342
doing that teetering thing

00:50:00.402 --> 00:50:02.224
where we didn't know if

00:50:02.284 --> 00:50:03.684
Grant was coming back or

00:50:03.724 --> 00:50:04.644
Kyron was playing.

00:50:04.985 --> 00:50:06.346
And Dwight text me and said,

00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:09.342
I'm looking at this young

00:50:09.382 --> 00:50:12.764
man while he's after a game or something.

00:50:13.186 --> 00:50:15.306
He said, if they start endorsing him,

00:50:15.807 --> 00:50:16.809
he is a star.

00:50:18.489 --> 00:50:19.110
That's what he said.

00:50:19.170 --> 00:50:19.510
He's like,

00:50:19.911 --> 00:50:21.512
once they come out and say he's

00:50:21.612 --> 00:50:22.713
our starting quarterback,

00:50:23.074 --> 00:50:23.773
you're going to see a

00:50:23.833 --> 00:50:25.054
change in this young man.

00:50:25.496 --> 00:50:26.436
Not just his play,

00:50:26.476 --> 00:50:28.797
but everything about him.

00:50:28.878 --> 00:50:29.498
When they started,

00:50:29.599 --> 00:50:30.900
I think Pryor finally came

00:50:30.980 --> 00:50:32.460
out and said he's the

00:50:32.481 --> 00:50:33.621
quarterback moving forward.

00:50:34.262 --> 00:50:34.682
It was like,

00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:37.119
The light switch hit.

00:50:37.300 --> 00:50:38.081
You know what I'm saying?

00:50:38.362 --> 00:50:39.643
Kyron was already playing.

00:50:39.682 --> 00:50:41.065
He was already doing the stuff he could do,

00:50:41.144 --> 00:50:43.067
but you could see the confidence come.

00:50:43.106 --> 00:50:44.728
You could see the play calls come for him.

00:50:45.088 --> 00:50:46.851
You could see the media

00:50:46.891 --> 00:50:48.552
start gravitating toward him.

00:50:48.974 --> 00:50:49.614
You could see him,

00:50:49.634 --> 00:50:52.237
those 50-50 balls start going our way.

00:50:52.597 --> 00:50:53.778
So I don't know, man.

00:50:53.798 --> 00:50:56.442
Dwight might be, what was the lady named?

00:50:56.461 --> 00:50:56.983
Yeah.

00:50:57.563 --> 00:50:59.204
The old fortune teller that

00:50:59.284 --> 00:51:01.364
everybody is talking about.

00:51:01.545 --> 00:51:02.065
Miss Cleo.

00:51:02.105 --> 00:51:02.706
Miss Cleo.

00:51:02.806 --> 00:51:03.045
Miss Cleo.

00:51:03.065 --> 00:51:04.646
He might be kidding to Miss Cleo,

00:51:04.686 --> 00:51:04.987
you know?

00:51:05.467 --> 00:51:07.208
Hey, I have a good track record.

00:51:07.248 --> 00:51:08.668
I always tweet it every now and then.

00:51:08.688 --> 00:51:09.728
I don't miss when it comes

00:51:09.768 --> 00:51:10.628
to stuff I call.

00:51:11.009 --> 00:51:12.150
I called it with Greg Stroman.

00:51:12.170 --> 00:51:13.190
I called it with Eddie Royal.

00:51:13.269 --> 00:51:14.371
I said it about Mike Vick.

00:51:14.811 --> 00:51:15.672
Everything I said about my

00:51:15.711 --> 00:51:17.112
cousin Mike came to fruition.

00:51:17.813 --> 00:51:19.914
I feel so confident about drones.

00:51:19.954 --> 00:51:20.653
And here's the deal.

00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:24.202
Yeah, he is special.

00:51:24.621 --> 00:51:25.342
I'm not going to get all

00:51:25.422 --> 00:51:27.463
euphoric and talk about all-time greats,

00:51:27.503 --> 00:51:27.842
whatever,

00:51:28.222 --> 00:51:30.204
but he is just that missing piece.

00:51:30.284 --> 00:51:31.085
And going back to your

00:51:31.144 --> 00:51:34.065
question you guys asked me about, like,

00:51:34.385 --> 00:51:35.987
you know, do guys know, whatever,

00:51:36.547 --> 00:51:38.007
even though these guys are young men,

00:51:38.068 --> 00:51:39.228
they're still young adults.

00:51:39.407 --> 00:51:41.128
And what I mean is in high

00:51:41.168 --> 00:51:42.068
school you kind of do what

00:51:42.108 --> 00:51:43.730
the coach tells you, but you kind of know,

00:51:44.409 --> 00:51:45.871
man, you know, coach is tripping.

00:51:45.911 --> 00:51:47.090
You know, he's a better guy.

00:51:47.130 --> 00:51:47.992
You see it in shit like

00:51:48.032 --> 00:51:49.291
movies like Varsity Blues

00:51:49.753 --> 00:51:50.753
when they're like, yo, man.

00:51:51.331 --> 00:51:52.190
Kilmore's tripping.

00:51:52.231 --> 00:51:52.931
You know what I'm saying?

00:51:52.952 --> 00:51:55.213
But when they get to Tech or

00:51:55.233 --> 00:51:56.813
whatever college, they're young adults.

00:51:56.914 --> 00:51:57.514
And they know.

00:51:57.614 --> 00:51:58.434
They're young men.

00:51:59.034 --> 00:52:01.275
And now with COVID and NIL

00:52:01.315 --> 00:52:02.536
and guys staying five, six,

00:52:02.556 --> 00:52:03.336
seven years now,

00:52:03.436 --> 00:52:05.077
they're really young men.

00:52:05.117 --> 00:52:06.719
They're in their 20s.

00:52:08.523 --> 00:52:09.304
Everybody knew.

00:52:09.583 --> 00:52:10.224
They whispered.

00:52:10.244 --> 00:52:10.606
They knew.

00:52:10.666 --> 00:52:11.106
And again,

00:52:11.586 --> 00:52:12.728
ain't nothing against old boy

00:52:12.748 --> 00:52:13.588
that he replaced.

00:52:13.648 --> 00:52:14.849
It's just more so like he

00:52:14.989 --> 00:52:17.393
fits better what we did.

00:52:17.492 --> 00:52:19.114
And Tyler Boyne, I think we forget.

00:52:19.135 --> 00:52:20.036
We got to give him credit.

00:52:20.076 --> 00:52:21.197
He went and got him.

00:52:22.211 --> 00:52:24.393
He went, he knew what he wanted.

00:52:24.454 --> 00:52:26.054
So, yeah, man,

00:52:27.795 --> 00:52:29.717
I am so excited now doing this podcast.

00:52:29.777 --> 00:52:31.038
I kind of been in basketball mode.

00:52:31.518 --> 00:52:33.659
I am so excited about the fall.

00:52:33.980 --> 00:52:34.661
Well,

00:52:34.681 --> 00:52:35.760
we finna get you a little bit more

00:52:35.780 --> 00:52:36.581
excited because I know we

00:52:36.601 --> 00:52:38.563
ain't got you much longer here,

00:52:38.603 --> 00:52:40.264
but I do got to go to the

00:52:40.264 --> 00:52:42.666
2024 season right quick and ask you,

00:52:43.126 --> 00:52:44.327
you know, a couple of things.

00:52:44.387 --> 00:52:45.467
But what I'm going to start with,

00:52:45.487 --> 00:52:45.987
I'm going to go a little

00:52:46.007 --> 00:52:46.469
bit out of order.

00:52:46.829 --> 00:52:47.829
I'm just going to start with

00:52:48.170 --> 00:52:49.530
you looked at the schedule.

00:52:50.552 --> 00:52:51.494
You've seen the schedule.

00:52:51.893 --> 00:52:53.516
There are some good games on the schedule.

00:52:53.958 --> 00:52:54.639
But, you know,

00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:55.961
you being a big football guy,

00:52:56.001 --> 00:52:57.585
you being a big Virginia Tech guy,

00:52:57.804 --> 00:52:59.168
you being a big pride guy,

00:53:00.264 --> 00:53:02.505
What game or a couple of

00:53:02.545 --> 00:53:04.646
games does Pryor really

00:53:04.686 --> 00:53:07.186
need to dig into to win to

00:53:07.728 --> 00:53:09.027
solidify his legacy?

00:53:09.748 --> 00:53:10.429
Great question.

00:53:10.869 --> 00:53:11.969
What you're saying is he

00:53:12.009 --> 00:53:14.130
needs that signature win that Beamer got.

00:53:14.150 --> 00:53:15.530
Signature win.

00:53:15.610 --> 00:53:17.251
No, no, no, no.

00:53:17.731 --> 00:53:19.231
He needs that signature win.

00:53:19.952 --> 00:53:21.512
And the fact of the matter

00:53:21.632 --> 00:53:23.713
is that – Can I say something, Dwight?

00:53:24.132 --> 00:53:25.014
Can I say something real quick?

00:53:25.094 --> 00:53:25.753
Dwight, Dwight, Dwight.

00:53:26.653 --> 00:53:28.235
What's going to be his 1995 Miami game?

00:53:33.204 --> 00:53:34.963
Damn.

00:53:35.164 --> 00:53:36.565
Which one could it be this year?

00:53:36.605 --> 00:53:37.826
We got Clemson at home.

00:53:37.865 --> 00:53:39.385
We got Miami at their place.

00:53:39.927 --> 00:53:42.088
We got – who else we got?

00:53:42.108 --> 00:53:43.208
Let me pull it up right quick.

00:53:43.728 --> 00:53:44.528
We got Vanderbilt.

00:53:44.588 --> 00:53:45.349
I know these – I'm just

00:53:45.389 --> 00:53:46.449
calling games that we got.

00:53:46.849 --> 00:53:48.369
We got Vanderbilt at their place.

00:53:49.371 --> 00:53:50.851
We got Miami at their place.

00:53:51.552 --> 00:53:53.152
We got Clemson at home.

00:53:55.333 --> 00:53:56.753
We got ODU at their place.

00:53:59.016 --> 00:54:00.637
Okay, so I think,

00:54:00.838 --> 00:54:01.898
and this is a great question.

00:54:01.938 --> 00:54:02.599
I actually looked at the

00:54:02.619 --> 00:54:03.260
schedule and I thought

00:54:03.300 --> 00:54:04.661
about this because I'm a

00:54:04.740 --> 00:54:06.222
visionary and I always do

00:54:06.262 --> 00:54:07.543
that manifestation stuff.

00:54:07.643 --> 00:54:08.704
I've always done it.

00:54:09.125 --> 00:54:10.445
My son does the same thing too.

00:54:10.746 --> 00:54:12.068
It's a technique we both do.

00:54:12.887 --> 00:54:14.349
It works if you really believe in it.

00:54:14.590 --> 00:54:15.490
I, I, I, I,

00:54:16.407 --> 00:54:17.367
I really feel like there are

00:54:17.407 --> 00:54:18.588
two games that stand out.

00:54:19.009 --> 00:54:20.230
And it's been like that

00:54:20.250 --> 00:54:21.170
since I saw the schedule

00:54:21.190 --> 00:54:22.851
released a few months ago.

00:54:23.331 --> 00:54:24.431
And the truth of the matter is,

00:54:24.512 --> 00:54:25.851
is that some of it's going

00:54:25.871 --> 00:54:27.052
to take shape based on

00:54:27.492 --> 00:54:28.793
who's ranked and where we

00:54:28.934 --> 00:54:30.833
are as far as standings in ACC.

00:54:31.494 --> 00:54:33.094
But the two games that stand

00:54:33.155 --> 00:54:35.175
out to me are Clemson and Miami.

00:54:35.797 --> 00:54:37.036
Because Clemson at home,

00:54:37.117 --> 00:54:38.038
if it's a night game or

00:54:38.057 --> 00:54:39.338
even a 3.30 kickoff when

00:54:39.358 --> 00:54:40.038
they come out of the locker

00:54:40.057 --> 00:54:41.278
room at halftime, it'll be dark.

00:54:42.340 --> 00:54:45.304
A Clemson game at home, because Clemson,

00:54:45.364 --> 00:54:46.646
despite some of their

00:54:46.686 --> 00:54:48.106
stepbacks in recent years,

00:54:48.688 --> 00:54:49.528
they're still considered

00:54:49.548 --> 00:54:50.650
the classic college football,

00:54:50.670 --> 00:54:53.532
along with Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan,

00:54:53.873 --> 00:54:55.675
and Alabama and those guys, right?

00:54:56.655 --> 00:54:58.677
And Dabo, if you remember,

00:54:58.697 --> 00:54:59.759
I know you three remember,

00:54:59.778 --> 00:55:01.260
you guys are historians like me.

00:55:02.077 --> 00:55:03.056
He took the torch.

00:55:03.177 --> 00:55:04.217
He took the torch.

00:55:04.297 --> 00:55:05.318
I was there in the stadium

00:55:05.378 --> 00:55:07.137
in Charlotte from Beamer

00:55:07.318 --> 00:55:08.938
and Foster in 2011.

00:55:08.938 --> 00:55:10.018
We were going for

00:55:10.059 --> 00:55:11.840
back-to-back ACC championships.

00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:13.239
They stubbed their toe

00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:14.320
coming into the conference

00:55:14.340 --> 00:55:15.260
championship game.

00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:18.121
We were 10-1 after smashing

00:55:18.222 --> 00:55:19.322
UVA when David Wilson and

00:55:19.342 --> 00:55:20.561
Logan Thomas went crazy.

00:55:21.081 --> 00:55:22.963
They beat us 30-something.

00:55:23.003 --> 00:55:24.023
Like, it was a blowout.

00:55:24.922 --> 00:55:26.583
And they never looked back.

00:55:26.643 --> 00:55:27.764
They did get boat raced by

00:55:27.804 --> 00:55:29.003
West Virginia in the Orange Bowl,

00:55:29.023 --> 00:55:29.905
but they never looked back.

00:55:29.965 --> 00:55:30.565
They became...

00:55:31.456 --> 00:55:33.117
the team in ACC and we

00:55:33.137 --> 00:55:35.639
became a shell of ourselves, you know,

00:55:35.699 --> 00:55:36.978
teetering around seven and six,

00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:38.420
six and six, six and seven.

00:55:38.900 --> 00:55:39.760
It was tough to watch.

00:55:42.461 --> 00:55:43.481
I think our game against

00:55:43.541 --> 00:55:44.501
Clemson is going to be a

00:55:44.681 --> 00:55:46.063
huge opportunity because

00:55:46.103 --> 00:55:47.764
Virginia Tech fans say

00:55:47.804 --> 00:55:49.804
we're like six and two or seven and two.

00:55:49.824 --> 00:55:50.585
I don't have the schedule in

00:55:50.605 --> 00:55:51.744
front of me going into that game.

00:55:52.246 --> 00:55:54.686
Or we're like ranked 24 or

00:55:54.746 --> 00:55:55.547
right there where we're

00:55:55.567 --> 00:55:57.407
still in the contention for the ACC.

00:55:58.228 --> 00:56:00.268
Blacksburg, the fans, the town,

00:56:01.021 --> 00:56:02.842
The podcast like yours and mine,

00:56:03.342 --> 00:56:04.282
we're going to do our part.

00:56:04.521 --> 00:56:05.621
The buildup will be there.

00:56:06.282 --> 00:56:07.202
The one thing I said about

00:56:07.242 --> 00:56:08.422
Virginia tech last year,

00:56:08.583 --> 00:56:09.704
which they did a better job

00:56:09.744 --> 00:56:11.443
late in the season was they

00:56:11.503 --> 00:56:12.945
have to learn how to win

00:56:13.284 --> 00:56:14.264
and they have to learn how

00:56:14.284 --> 00:56:16.806
to handle success until they do that.

00:56:17.146 --> 00:56:18.425
They're going to continue to under,

00:56:18.505 --> 00:56:19.086
under achieve.

00:56:19.286 --> 00:56:20.266
And they started to learn

00:56:20.306 --> 00:56:21.306
how to handle success.

00:56:22.086 --> 00:56:23.007
One of the games I remember

00:56:23.047 --> 00:56:24.367
was going down to Boston college.

00:56:24.387 --> 00:56:25.849
They beat the brakes off BC.

00:56:26.248 --> 00:56:27.648
BC was a seven win team.

00:56:27.668 --> 00:56:29.449
When they did that, they destroyed them.

00:56:29.909 --> 00:56:30.170
Okay.

00:56:30.733 --> 00:56:32.695
They went to UVA, a nefarious opponent,

00:56:32.735 --> 00:56:33.835
and a rivalry game,

00:56:34.317 --> 00:56:36.077
set a record for points,

00:56:36.597 --> 00:56:38.159
and they destroyed UVA.

00:56:38.500 --> 00:56:39.521
That's never going to be a

00:56:39.581 --> 00:56:41.601
game outsiders are going to be like, oh,

00:56:41.621 --> 00:56:42.081
my God.

00:56:42.123 --> 00:56:43.402
But we know what that game

00:56:43.463 --> 00:56:44.925
means for the state of Virginia.

00:56:45.364 --> 00:56:46.985
And Pryor understood the meaning of it,

00:56:47.065 --> 00:56:48.967
even coming back that next day, trolling,

00:56:49.347 --> 00:56:50.588
holding a trophy and a

00:56:50.648 --> 00:56:52.070
picture of it in the office.

00:56:52.699 --> 00:56:53.920
So with that being said, man,

00:56:53.960 --> 00:56:55.260
Clemson is the game for me

00:56:55.800 --> 00:56:57.461
because Clemson is still

00:56:57.541 --> 00:56:58.802
considered the class of the

00:56:58.822 --> 00:57:00.543
ACC and beyond.

00:57:01.143 --> 00:57:03.224
And you will turn some heads if you,

00:57:03.686 --> 00:57:06.086
I don't mean just win, like, you know,

00:57:06.606 --> 00:57:07.768
for the win and the field

00:57:07.807 --> 00:57:08.389
goal and we went 21-20.

00:57:08.489 --> 00:57:08.889
No,

00:57:09.188 --> 00:57:12.010
I mean like how we did against Miami

00:57:12.050 --> 00:57:13.331
when Ja'Cory Harris came in

00:57:13.391 --> 00:57:14.211
ranked ninth and we were

00:57:14.231 --> 00:57:15.532
ranked 11th and Tyrod and

00:57:15.552 --> 00:57:17.474
Jerry Boykin and Ryan Williams got this.

00:57:18.134 --> 00:57:19.315
Yeah, that's what you need.

00:57:19.474 --> 00:57:20.576
You need to win those games.

00:57:21.217 --> 00:57:22.617
And I think the Miami game

00:57:22.697 --> 00:57:24.039
is one because no matter,

00:57:24.378 --> 00:57:26.579
even though I troll Miami, I clown them,

00:57:26.639 --> 00:57:29.679
and they've got one bowl game winning 12,

00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:30.019
13 years.

00:57:30.059 --> 00:57:31.300
They've never won the ACC

00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:32.619
outright or even they've

00:57:32.639 --> 00:57:33.639
only won a coastal one.

00:57:33.659 --> 00:57:34.940
We had divisions one time.

00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:36.221
They're still Miami.

00:57:36.260 --> 00:57:37.181
They still have a name.

00:57:37.740 --> 00:57:42.161
And for me, you beat Miami at Miami,

00:57:42.222 --> 00:57:42.481
right?

00:57:43.001 --> 00:57:43.501
Yep.

00:57:44.101 --> 00:57:45.342
On a Friday night.

00:57:45.882 --> 00:57:47.663
Yeah, see, you beat Miami at Miami.

00:57:49.090 --> 00:57:50.371
Even if they're not the

00:57:50.411 --> 00:57:51.833
Miami during my time,

00:57:51.873 --> 00:57:52.833
they're still Miami.

00:57:53.514 --> 00:57:54.534
Those are two wins.

00:57:54.574 --> 00:57:57.396
But again, just to bring it full circle,

00:57:58.317 --> 00:58:00.057
signature wins sometimes

00:58:00.117 --> 00:58:01.358
happen in bowl games.

00:58:01.998 --> 00:58:03.360
They happen against a team

00:58:03.420 --> 00:58:05.320
that you may not think.

00:58:05.380 --> 00:58:06.481
Like in 95,

00:58:06.481 --> 00:58:08.103
we knew UVA was going to be good.

00:58:08.163 --> 00:58:09.483
We were in two different conferences.

00:58:10.063 --> 00:58:12.626
It was probably one of the

00:58:12.666 --> 00:58:13.586
better rivalries in the

00:58:13.646 --> 00:58:14.547
nation at the time.

00:58:14.706 --> 00:58:15.688
It's not now, but

00:58:16.516 --> 00:58:17.096
We didn't know they were

00:58:17.115 --> 00:58:17.876
going to be Florida State

00:58:17.896 --> 00:58:18.856
for the first time in history.

00:58:18.876 --> 00:58:19.496
We didn't know that they

00:58:19.516 --> 00:58:21.277
were going to be the best

00:58:21.318 --> 00:58:23.199
team in the ACC along with Florida State.

00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:24.318
And we didn't know we were

00:58:24.338 --> 00:58:26.019
going to be a top 10 team

00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:26.639
in the nation because we

00:58:26.659 --> 00:58:27.860
started off 0-2 that year.

00:58:27.920 --> 00:58:29.260
So that's the beauty of

00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:30.280
college football is the

00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:31.262
element of surprise.

00:58:31.282 --> 00:58:32.822
So as much as I want to say

00:58:32.862 --> 00:58:34.882
Clemson and Miami, we just don't know.

00:58:34.963 --> 00:58:36.182
A signature win sometimes

00:58:36.222 --> 00:58:37.824
happens in a bowl game,

00:58:37.844 --> 00:58:38.903
like I said a few minutes ago,

00:58:38.923 --> 00:58:42.226
or it happens when you play

00:58:42.266 --> 00:58:45.206
a team that is having a historic run.

00:58:46.027 --> 00:58:47.867
You know, you didn't realize that,

00:58:47.927 --> 00:58:51.090
but beat Miami on a Friday night.

00:58:52.010 --> 00:58:53.532
I know high school football is still big,

00:58:53.552 --> 00:58:55.373
you know, across the country,

00:58:55.413 --> 00:58:57.233
but that'll be a game.

00:58:57.313 --> 00:59:00.755
You win in Miami, win the game on the road,

00:59:01.376 --> 00:59:01.637
you know,

00:59:01.657 --> 00:59:03.117
seeing proud walk to the locker room,

00:59:03.157 --> 00:59:04.018
holding up his fist and

00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:05.079
waving to the tech fans

00:59:05.099 --> 00:59:05.940
that are going to be there.

00:59:06.715 --> 00:59:07.797
And then everybody jumping

00:59:07.836 --> 00:59:08.777
up and down and drones

00:59:08.817 --> 00:59:10.338
walking off with his helmet in his hand,

00:59:10.378 --> 00:59:12.699
looking, smiling with that smile he got.

00:59:13.820 --> 00:59:15.521
Then you come back a few weeks later,

00:59:15.561 --> 00:59:17.581
you beat Clemson to secure

00:59:17.601 --> 00:59:20.143
a spot in the ACC championship game.

00:59:21.885 --> 00:59:23.244
Or it might be a situation

00:59:23.284 --> 00:59:24.485
where you win the ACC.

00:59:25.706 --> 00:59:26.927
If you F around and win the

00:59:26.947 --> 00:59:29.349
ACC in your third year,

00:59:29.369 --> 00:59:31.329
not only is it a future win,

00:59:31.992 --> 00:59:33.592
Now you put everybody on

00:59:33.652 --> 00:59:34.454
notice because even though

00:59:34.474 --> 00:59:36.534
the ACC is suing itself and

00:59:36.554 --> 00:59:37.275
you got all this stuff

00:59:37.315 --> 00:59:38.876
about rumors or whatever,

00:59:39.536 --> 00:59:40.737
it's still a credible conference.

00:59:40.757 --> 00:59:42.077
It's still a Power 5 conference,

00:59:42.137 --> 00:59:43.599
and it's still a conference championship.

00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:45.800
I don't give a damn if it's the 70s, 80s,

00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.902
or right now a conference championship.

00:59:48.242 --> 00:59:49.963
It's still an automatic big conference.

00:59:50.003 --> 00:59:52.784
You win the ACC, man.

00:59:52.844 --> 00:59:53.565
It's playoff time.

00:59:53.585 --> 00:59:54.525
Playoff time, baby.

00:59:55.266 --> 00:59:56.487
But this is what I'm going to say.

00:59:56.646 --> 00:59:57.206
This is what I'm going to

00:59:57.226 --> 00:59:58.228
say to go along with it.

00:59:58.248 --> 00:59:59.889
Real quick, real quick, real quick, Tyler.

01:00:00.753 --> 01:00:02.375
The thing about it is that I

01:00:02.394 --> 01:00:03.755
know I love how Don V said,

01:00:03.775 --> 01:00:04.637
what we lying about today

01:00:04.677 --> 01:00:05.458
and we telling lies.

01:00:05.518 --> 01:00:07.458
I'm not even on some euphoric shit.

01:00:07.478 --> 01:00:09.440
I'm not even on some, oh, yeah.

01:00:09.780 --> 01:00:09.981
You know,

01:00:10.001 --> 01:00:11.141
because you guys know I'm pretty

01:00:11.181 --> 01:00:11.543
rational.

01:00:11.563 --> 01:00:12.523
I'm the voice of reason.

01:00:13.043 --> 01:00:13.724
But the one thing I know

01:00:13.764 --> 01:00:16.146
about these kids now is the

01:00:16.186 --> 01:00:19.329
kids in that locker room, they believe.

01:00:19.349 --> 01:00:21.170
They believe.

01:00:21.451 --> 01:00:21.670
Like,

01:00:22.570 --> 01:00:24.773
you had everybody back for the bowl game.

01:00:25.434 --> 01:00:27.554
Ain't been but a few guys in the portal,

01:00:27.574 --> 01:00:28.655
and those guys should have left.

01:00:28.695 --> 01:00:29.416
They need to leave.

01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:31.860
Man, drones and them believe, man.

01:00:31.981 --> 01:00:33.400
I'm telling you, I've been a player.

01:00:33.922 --> 01:00:35.422
I know what it's like when you believe.

01:00:35.802 --> 01:00:37.722
My son, I talk to him.

01:00:38.483 --> 01:00:39.063
It's something about

01:00:39.103 --> 01:00:40.023
watching a young man or

01:00:40.063 --> 01:00:41.324
young woman when they play sports,

01:00:41.364 --> 01:00:41.744
they believe.

01:00:41.784 --> 01:00:42.525
You see it with South

01:00:42.545 --> 01:00:43.724
Carolina and Don Staley.

01:00:44.164 --> 01:00:45.706
You see it when championship

01:00:45.746 --> 01:00:47.007
mindsets take over.

01:00:47.567 --> 01:00:48.467
They believe.

01:00:48.507 --> 01:00:50.527
When I was at Tech, it's so crazy, guys.

01:00:51.211 --> 01:00:53.193
because we won 90% of our games.

01:00:53.213 --> 01:00:54.193
The many times we believe,

01:00:54.213 --> 01:00:56.956
even if we were down 14, we believe, man.

01:00:57.617 --> 01:00:59.619
And I just feel like these guys believe,

01:00:59.659 --> 01:00:59.938
man.

01:01:00.018 --> 01:01:00.179
Like,

01:01:00.199 --> 01:01:02.501
they don't even look at Tech like on some,

01:01:03.061 --> 01:01:04.503
you know, we hope we win or whatever.

01:01:04.543 --> 01:01:05.284
Now, last year,

01:01:05.664 --> 01:01:06.965
there were some tough moments, you know,

01:01:06.985 --> 01:01:08.365
growing things against Louisville.

01:01:08.826 --> 01:01:09.827
That was tough to watch.

01:01:10.228 --> 01:01:10.827
Florida State,

01:01:10.907 --> 01:01:13.170
we kind of made a little run at the end.

01:01:13.349 --> 01:01:14.630
You know, we're going into,

01:01:15.152 --> 01:01:16.271
it was a one-possession game,

01:01:16.293 --> 01:01:17.833
but we didn't score or whatever.

01:01:18.987 --> 01:01:19.668
But those, to me,

01:01:19.710 --> 01:01:21.233
are growing pains and life lessons.

01:01:21.873 --> 01:01:23.317
I feel like right now, man,

01:01:23.376 --> 01:01:24.780
this spring is so critical.

01:01:24.860 --> 01:01:26.123
So go ahead, Tyler.

01:01:26.143 --> 01:01:27.063
You wanted to make a point?

01:01:27.686 --> 01:01:28.927
Yeah, no, I was going to say –

01:01:30.713 --> 01:01:31.574
Just to speak on a little

01:01:31.594 --> 01:01:33.355
bit of what you said, talking about Miami,

01:01:33.775 --> 01:01:34.735
that makes it a little bit

01:01:34.815 --> 01:01:36.096
more interesting.

01:01:37.315 --> 01:01:37.635
First of all,

01:01:37.675 --> 01:01:38.936
we play Rutgers the week before,

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which is going to be a very

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physical game.

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It don't matter if they roll

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me and my grandma out on the field.

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Rutgers is going to be physical.

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My grandma, she passed away.

01:01:47.759 --> 01:01:48.360
God rest her soul.

01:01:48.380 --> 01:01:49.159
God rest her soul.

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Whoever he rolls out on the field,

01:01:53.563 --> 01:01:54.344
they're going to play hard,

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and they're going to hit you.

01:01:56.125 --> 01:01:57.286
So we play them,

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and then the next week we

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go and play Miami.

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Now, when you think about Miami this year,

01:02:01.670 --> 01:02:03.050
they got Cam Ward down there.

01:02:03.530 --> 01:02:07.014
So Kyron wanted to start some stuff up.

01:02:07.614 --> 01:02:08.735
Kyron done went and worked

01:02:08.876 --> 01:02:11.958
out with Cam Ward and Shador Sanders.

01:02:12.639 --> 01:02:13.780
And if you go watch that,

01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:15.760
because I done dug into it, man.

01:02:15.800 --> 01:02:17.302
I done watched the tapes

01:02:17.362 --> 01:02:18.483
probably four times.

01:02:19.487 --> 01:02:21.710
Cam talking a little junk to Kyron.

01:02:22.469 --> 01:02:24.532
He said something to the effect of,

01:02:25.391 --> 01:02:26.353
that ain't how you throw that.

01:02:27.054 --> 01:02:29.494
And then Kyron told him, he said,

01:02:29.536 --> 01:02:30.615
I won my bowl game.

01:02:31.737 --> 01:02:34.099
And then Cam said something like, well,

01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:35.579
you had to run 250 yards.

01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:37.641
And then I think Shador

01:02:37.981 --> 01:02:39.643
chimed in and said something like,

01:02:40.563 --> 01:02:41.965
the second year,

01:02:42.005 --> 01:02:43.065
you start feeling them hits.

01:02:43.085 --> 01:02:43.626
Yeah.

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And Kyron didn't say nothing.

01:02:45.322 --> 01:02:46.342
He just looked at him like,

01:02:46.682 --> 01:02:48.164
and I'm looking at his face like,

01:02:48.523 --> 01:02:49.764
y'all don't know who you talking to,

01:02:49.784 --> 01:02:50.605
number one.

01:02:51.045 --> 01:02:53.467
And number two, y'all are in Miami,

01:02:53.686 --> 01:02:55.867
but Kyron has his receivers there.

01:02:56.789 --> 01:02:58.411
Ali and Quan was there.

01:02:58.452 --> 01:02:59.032
And, you know,

01:02:59.052 --> 01:03:00.532
the cameraman went to Quan and was like,

01:03:00.873 --> 01:03:01.974
hey, man, tell us your name.

01:03:02.295 --> 01:03:05.056
And there was no partying on Quan's face.

01:03:05.557 --> 01:03:07.039
Quan was like, Quan.

01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:09.601
He didn't say Dequan Felton,

01:03:09.860 --> 01:03:10.422
Virginia Tech.

01:03:10.442 --> 01:03:11.402
He said, what's your name?

01:03:11.442 --> 01:03:12.242
He said, Quan.

01:03:12.563 --> 01:03:13.143
And that was it.

01:03:13.443 --> 01:03:14.425
And went back to catching.

01:03:14.925 --> 01:03:16.927
Hey, them boys mean business, man.

01:03:16.967 --> 01:03:17.668
And I'm telling you,

01:03:18.108 --> 01:03:18.929
what we're going to start

01:03:18.969 --> 01:03:22.172
hearing around that Miami game is,

01:03:22.652 --> 01:03:24.733
you know, you got Heisman Candidate.

01:03:25.414 --> 01:03:27.255
uh uh uh cameron ward and

01:03:27.275 --> 01:03:28.135
depending on how our

01:03:28.155 --> 01:03:29.695
season's going and and dark

01:03:29.715 --> 01:03:31.735
host candidate kyron drones

01:03:31.775 --> 01:03:34.177
that could potentially be a

01:03:34.277 --> 01:03:35.878
big matchup and now I feel

01:03:35.898 --> 01:03:39.039
like I feel it will be yeah

01:03:39.139 --> 01:03:41.559
I i I am I i I i don't I

01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:43.519
can't explain to y'all I'm

01:03:43.539 --> 01:03:45.121
not on no homer I'm just

01:03:45.181 --> 01:03:46.280
telling y'all man like

01:03:47.161 --> 01:03:48.802
drones is that dude I'm

01:03:48.882 --> 01:03:50.402
telling you I can't I i

01:03:50.422 --> 01:03:51.523
don't miss I i said the

01:03:51.563 --> 01:03:53.423
same thing when I saw my cousin play

01:03:54.909 --> 01:03:56.309
Um, long before JMU,

01:03:56.349 --> 01:03:57.650
I saw it in practice and it was,

01:03:57.751 --> 01:03:58.931
I remember telling my girlfriend,

01:03:58.971 --> 01:04:01.431
then now my wife, I was like, Shanice,

01:04:01.471 --> 01:04:02.672
Mike is that guy, bro?

01:04:02.731 --> 01:04:04.431
Like I can't explain it.

01:04:04.811 --> 01:04:06.972
And it's something about people in sports.

01:04:07.333 --> 01:04:09.452
You can't describe it.

01:04:10.472 --> 01:04:11.213
I, you know what?

01:04:11.414 --> 01:04:12.014
I'm a chill.

01:04:12.454 --> 01:04:13.353
I know y'all got one last

01:04:13.393 --> 01:04:14.393
question before I jump off.

01:04:15.054 --> 01:04:15.815
I cannot wait.

01:04:15.934 --> 01:04:16.894
I wasn't even really this

01:04:16.934 --> 01:04:17.875
hype for the season.

01:04:18.342 --> 01:04:19.744
until I came on tonight, man.

01:04:19.764 --> 01:04:21.525
I was like, oh, yeah, you know,

01:04:21.545 --> 01:04:22.327
we're going to chop it up,

01:04:22.347 --> 01:04:23.148
talk about spring game.

01:04:23.188 --> 01:04:24.168
Now I'm like, damn,

01:04:24.289 --> 01:04:25.530
can we get to September?

01:04:26.331 --> 01:04:27.592
Oh, I'm ready.

01:04:28.065 --> 01:04:29.987
Yeah, all right.

01:04:30.047 --> 01:04:31.367
And I know we got another question,

01:04:31.387 --> 01:04:32.369
but we got some dude,

01:04:32.409 --> 01:04:34.349
like New King underscore God.

01:04:34.369 --> 01:04:35.550
We got Miami fans, what it is.

01:04:35.570 --> 01:04:36.791
Yeah, he keep chiming in,

01:04:36.811 --> 01:04:37.632
and he's telling me about

01:04:37.731 --> 01:04:38.552
all these people.

01:04:40.052 --> 01:04:40.653
Man, listen,

01:04:41.153 --> 01:04:43.695
we do not give a fuck about Miami.

01:04:43.996 --> 01:04:45.836
This is a Virginia Tech podcast.

01:04:45.876 --> 01:04:47.757
There is nobody on Miami's

01:04:47.797 --> 01:04:49.418
team that we ever been scared of.

01:04:49.498 --> 01:04:50.440
Fuck you talk about.

01:04:50.820 --> 01:04:52.221
Like anybody that y'all have

01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:53.422
ever had on your team,

01:04:54.420 --> 01:04:55.721
We don't give a fuck about that.

01:04:56.581 --> 01:04:57.802
The only Bane we would be

01:04:57.822 --> 01:04:58.922
scared of is if you got

01:04:58.983 --> 01:05:00.543
Bane that broke Batman's back.

01:05:00.884 --> 01:05:01.804
If y'all ain't got him,

01:05:02.445 --> 01:05:03.365
what we talking about?

01:05:04.666 --> 01:05:05.987
We gonna see.

01:05:06.507 --> 01:05:07.668
We gonna see.

01:05:07.907 --> 01:05:08.429
Come on, man.

01:05:08.449 --> 01:05:08.728
Stop.

01:05:08.789 --> 01:05:09.929
Miami, look.

01:05:10.429 --> 01:05:11.471
They will always be back.

01:05:11.510 --> 01:05:12.411
They will always talk.

01:05:12.530 --> 01:05:12.992
I love it.

01:05:13.012 --> 01:05:14.192
That's the good shit.

01:05:15.887 --> 01:05:17.509
Miami was more of our rival

01:05:17.548 --> 01:05:19.168
than UVA Miami and then

01:05:19.208 --> 01:05:20.849
West Virginia we never

01:05:20.869 --> 01:05:22.070
really had that kind of

01:05:22.130 --> 01:05:23.990
energy with UVA even when

01:05:24.010 --> 01:05:25.072
we were both ranked and

01:05:25.092 --> 01:05:25.992
there was a lot of trash

01:05:26.012 --> 01:05:26.871
talking they had Anthony

01:05:26.911 --> 01:05:28.693
Poindexter it was intense

01:05:28.773 --> 01:05:30.954
but Miami and West Virginia

01:05:30.994 --> 01:05:32.655
brought that dog out of us

01:05:32.715 --> 01:05:33.815
to a level where it was

01:05:33.934 --> 01:05:36.295
nasty I love playing Miami

01:05:36.376 --> 01:05:37.257
I love when they're good

01:05:37.297 --> 01:05:38.016
and we're good because

01:05:38.617 --> 01:05:38.898
To me,

01:05:38.918 --> 01:05:40.619
the ACC did get that right when they

01:05:40.679 --> 01:05:41.862
renewed that rivalry and

01:05:41.902 --> 01:05:42.641
made it every year.

01:05:43.023 --> 01:05:43.963
And I love it.

01:05:44.003 --> 01:05:46.186
We don't revisit that.

01:05:46.746 --> 01:05:47.608
Shout out to that fan.

01:05:47.648 --> 01:05:48.027
I get it.

01:05:48.068 --> 01:05:49.188
But every year,

01:05:49.208 --> 01:05:49.829
y'all are supposed to be

01:05:49.869 --> 01:05:50.871
back and y'all are supposed

01:05:50.911 --> 01:05:51.391
to be doing this.

01:05:52.054 --> 01:05:52.273
Again,

01:05:52.293 --> 01:05:54.555
y'all haven't won one bowl game in 13,

01:05:54.555 --> 01:05:55.074
14 years.

01:05:55.094 --> 01:05:55.534
Y'all haven't.

01:05:55.735 --> 01:05:55.934
Man,

01:05:55.954 --> 01:05:58.275
we're going to get New King to God on

01:05:58.315 --> 01:05:58.574
here,

01:05:59.076 --> 01:06:00.715
and we're going to talk some

01:06:00.735 --> 01:06:03.336
football the week of the Miami game.

01:06:03.737 --> 01:06:04.797
It's all love, man.

01:06:04.856 --> 01:06:05.797
It's all love.

01:06:05.936 --> 01:06:07.717
I'm glad he repping.

01:06:08.157 --> 01:06:10.117
Look, that's y'all.

01:06:10.157 --> 01:06:11.797
Look, that's y'all podcast, bro.

01:06:12.077 --> 01:06:13.579
You know what I'm saying?

01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:14.478
We're going to get him on here.

01:06:15.456 --> 01:06:16.596
When you got haters and you

01:06:16.635 --> 01:06:18.177
got fans from other schools,

01:06:18.297 --> 01:06:19.036
that's a good thing.

01:06:19.077 --> 01:06:20.597
That means you're branching

01:06:20.617 --> 01:06:21.137
out and growing.

01:06:21.157 --> 01:06:21.797
That's a good thing.

01:06:21.818 --> 01:06:22.938
Shout out to that guy, man.

01:06:23.478 --> 01:06:23.918
I love it.

01:06:24.018 --> 01:06:24.418
I love it.

01:06:24.838 --> 01:06:25.838
He's all about drones going

01:06:25.858 --> 01:06:26.619
down to Miami now.

01:06:26.659 --> 01:06:27.119
Like, you know,

01:06:27.858 --> 01:06:29.960
who's going to be training

01:06:30.019 --> 01:06:31.440
in late February in Virginia?

01:06:31.659 --> 01:06:32.001
Come on, man.

01:06:32.021 --> 01:06:32.920
He's just talking now, man.

01:06:32.940 --> 01:06:33.760
Talking about the reason

01:06:33.780 --> 01:06:34.561
they came to Miami.

01:06:34.780 --> 01:06:35.742
You know how many boats and

01:06:35.782 --> 01:06:38.461
hoes in Miami during this time?

01:06:38.521 --> 01:06:40.523
Who's going to do this?

01:06:40.563 --> 01:06:40.862
Yeah,

01:06:40.902 --> 01:06:42.643
you're going to get me to start

01:06:42.663 --> 01:06:43.804
talking crazy over here, man.

01:06:45.626 --> 01:06:46.907
The boys on that with their

01:06:46.927 --> 01:06:47.989
shirts off and everything.

01:06:48.009 --> 01:06:49.351
Yeah, I would have been in Miami too.

01:06:49.791 --> 01:06:51.572
What you talking about?

01:06:51.592 --> 01:06:53.735
I would have been out there

01:06:53.775 --> 01:06:54.637
with my shirt off.

01:06:54.657 --> 01:06:55.838
That's for an After Dark

01:06:55.878 --> 01:06:57.018
podcast right there.

01:06:57.059 --> 01:06:57.559
Right.

01:06:57.599 --> 01:06:58.740
That's right.

01:06:58.780 --> 01:07:01.123
Miami, yeah, he's a lot to do down there.

01:07:01.164 --> 01:07:02.565
Had a great time in them Orange Bowls.

01:07:04.086 --> 01:07:04.327
Brian,

01:07:04.347 --> 01:07:06.847
I think you had some before Dwight

01:07:06.887 --> 01:07:07.548
has to hop off.

01:07:08.188 --> 01:07:09.489
Yeah, I mean, this is the big one.

01:07:09.530 --> 01:07:10.050
I mean,

01:07:10.070 --> 01:07:11.911
we got a spring game coming up on

01:07:11.931 --> 01:07:12.251
April 13th.

01:07:12.291 --> 01:07:14.012
Are we going to see you there?

01:07:14.032 --> 01:07:14.974
Are we going to have some

01:07:14.994 --> 01:07:16.474
good times in Blacksburg?

01:07:16.954 --> 01:07:17.896
Oh, man, so funny.

01:07:17.936 --> 01:07:19.016
I was just talking to my son

01:07:19.056 --> 01:07:20.056
and my wife about this

01:07:20.117 --> 01:07:22.498
because I got so many

01:07:22.539 --> 01:07:24.440
appearances if I come to be a part of.

01:07:25.181 --> 01:07:26.021
I love the spring game.

01:07:26.041 --> 01:07:27.222
You know, until Fuente took over,

01:07:27.262 --> 01:07:28.702
I went to the spring game

01:07:28.702 --> 01:07:29.422
14 straight times.

01:07:29.503 --> 01:07:30.244
I never missed one.

01:07:30.945 --> 01:07:32.346
And then maybe more than that.

01:07:32.385 --> 01:07:33.226
And then, you know,

01:07:33.467 --> 01:07:34.708
there was a couple of years with him.

01:07:34.987 --> 01:07:36.148
I started boycotting it,

01:07:36.208 --> 01:07:38.351
not even on some boycott and tech,

01:07:38.371 --> 01:07:40.391
but it was just, it didn't feel right.

01:07:40.472 --> 01:07:41.452
You know, it was like, you know,

01:07:41.733 --> 01:07:42.434
when you and your girl

01:07:42.454 --> 01:07:43.835
trying to reconcile, but you know,

01:07:43.914 --> 01:07:44.755
ain't right no more.

01:07:45.516 --> 01:07:47.717
Um, but it feels right now, man.

01:07:47.797 --> 01:07:49.199
And, and, and I love tech.

01:07:49.458 --> 01:07:51.139
I love going back to Southwest Virginia.

01:07:51.601 --> 01:07:53.521
So to answer to that is as of right now,

01:07:53.561 --> 01:07:54.682
the plans to come back,

01:07:55.423 --> 01:07:57.485
I got to get my room or something, but,

01:07:58.065 --> 01:07:59.547
um, yeah, man, I'm,

01:08:00.228 --> 01:08:00.907
I'm planning to come.

01:08:00.927 --> 01:08:02.108
The only reason if I don't come,

01:08:02.148 --> 01:08:06.210
it'll be because my son has an AAU game,

01:08:06.269 --> 01:08:08.030
but I think you can live stream it.

01:08:08.170 --> 01:08:09.630
Plus, man, he about to be 18,

01:08:09.630 --> 01:08:10.550
so he don't need me there.

01:08:10.570 --> 01:08:11.090
I don't even go there.

01:08:11.110 --> 01:08:12.512
I didn't even go to his games last year.

01:08:12.552 --> 01:08:14.192
You know what I'm saying?

01:08:14.211 --> 01:08:16.273
So, nah, man, the plan is to be there,

01:08:16.292 --> 01:08:18.394
B. I mean,

01:08:18.434 --> 01:08:19.554
a lot of guys are coming back

01:08:19.673 --> 01:08:20.634
like they always do,

01:08:20.713 --> 01:08:21.875
and I think pride in them.

01:08:22.454 --> 01:08:23.295
I've done a great job

01:08:23.335 --> 01:08:24.395
reconnecting with the alumni.

01:08:24.454 --> 01:08:25.296
I love going back.

01:08:25.435 --> 01:08:26.036
You know, it's funny.

01:08:26.076 --> 01:08:26.496
I played

01:08:27.007 --> 01:08:28.588
My last game was in Tech,

01:08:28.788 --> 01:08:30.408
was against Alabama in 98.

01:08:30.408 --> 01:08:32.029
My last home game was in 98.

01:08:32.149 --> 01:08:35.131
I haven't played since 1998

01:08:35.131 --> 01:08:35.970
as far as for Tech.

01:08:36.150 --> 01:08:38.872
And Hokie Nation shows me love, man.

01:08:38.931 --> 01:08:40.153
Like, it's crazy, bro.

01:08:40.212 --> 01:08:43.173
Like, going back, I feel like a star.

01:08:43.373 --> 01:08:45.095
Like, I get pictures and selfies.

01:08:45.175 --> 01:08:46.614
I sign so many footballs.

01:08:47.775 --> 01:08:47.855
And...

01:08:48.788 --> 01:08:49.770
I met my wife there.

01:08:49.970 --> 01:08:51.192
My cousins went there.

01:08:51.292 --> 01:08:53.113
I say this every time I'm on your show,

01:08:53.134 --> 01:08:53.234
man.

01:08:53.253 --> 01:08:54.694
It's a family affair, man.

01:08:54.715 --> 01:08:56.797
It's just a great place.

01:08:56.837 --> 01:08:58.880
It was some of the best five

01:08:58.920 --> 01:08:59.841
to six years of my life.

01:08:59.900 --> 01:09:00.761
And thank God we didn't have

01:09:00.801 --> 01:09:01.783
social media because we did

01:09:01.802 --> 01:09:02.944
some wild stuff too.

01:09:04.206 --> 01:09:05.868
And I don't mean that nothing illegal.

01:09:06.087 --> 01:09:09.692
I don't want to get canceled.

01:09:09.731 --> 01:09:10.672
Nothing crazy, man.

01:09:11.779 --> 01:09:13.661
but lived in Fox Ridge, Terrence View,

01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:14.362
Collegiate Street.

01:09:14.943 --> 01:09:16.244
Oh, man, you did them all then.

01:09:16.305 --> 01:09:17.126
You lived it up.

01:09:17.386 --> 01:09:18.046
I lived it up, man.

01:09:18.167 --> 01:09:19.349
Look, bro,

01:09:19.849 --> 01:09:21.051
that's back in the day when I had energy,

01:09:21.070 --> 01:09:21.171
man.

01:09:21.251 --> 01:09:22.752
I'd go to bed at 3 in the morning, man,

01:09:22.792 --> 01:09:23.694
and wake up at 7 and

01:09:25.086 --> 01:09:25.867
That's back when I could eat

01:09:25.907 --> 01:09:27.068
whatever when I was in shape.

01:09:27.108 --> 01:09:28.448
Now, man, I got to be careful.

01:09:28.548 --> 01:09:30.510
I don't even eat ice cream no more, man.

01:09:30.550 --> 01:09:31.150
I'll be done.

01:09:31.171 --> 01:09:32.851
That's back when Blacksburg

01:09:32.872 --> 01:09:33.932
allowed gatherings, right?

01:09:34.632 --> 01:09:35.654
I saw that, yo.

01:09:35.774 --> 01:09:36.475
I saw it.

01:09:36.774 --> 01:09:38.435
It's crazy, bro.

01:09:39.136 --> 01:09:40.057
You know what, man?

01:09:40.198 --> 01:09:40.917
I told y'all.

01:09:41.238 --> 01:09:42.720
Anyway, I got to jump off, man.

01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:43.399
I love y'all.

01:09:43.619 --> 01:09:44.280
I really do.

01:09:44.701 --> 01:09:45.502
I can't tell y'all.

01:09:45.981 --> 01:09:47.143
Shout out to all of y'all, man.

01:09:47.162 --> 01:09:48.224
Y'all keep supporting this

01:09:48.724 --> 01:09:50.666
Boundary Corners podcast, man.

01:09:50.706 --> 01:09:52.127
Three of the best brothers out here.

01:09:52.604 --> 01:09:53.466
Y'all are doing enough for

01:09:53.485 --> 01:09:54.667
Virginia Tech sports,

01:09:55.207 --> 01:09:56.609
especially the football program.

01:09:57.090 --> 01:09:58.872
Curtis, B, Tally, man,

01:09:58.891 --> 01:10:00.194
I love y'all to death, man.

01:10:00.213 --> 01:10:03.077
Y'all really bring everybody together.

01:10:03.676 --> 01:10:04.478
And the thing about y'all,

01:10:04.518 --> 01:10:05.619
hold us accountable,

01:10:05.659 --> 01:10:07.622
yet you give great insight, great guests.

01:10:08.293 --> 01:10:09.074
I'm always on it.

01:10:09.095 --> 01:10:10.895
Every time B texts me, I'm like, all right,

01:10:10.916 --> 01:10:11.957
let me make this schedule work.

01:10:11.976 --> 01:10:15.158
I got lots of work I got to do tonight.

01:10:15.179 --> 01:10:16.380
Can I say something real quick?

01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:17.161
Yeah.

01:10:17.201 --> 01:10:18.220
Thank you for jumping on in

01:10:18.261 --> 01:10:20.002
December because you

01:10:20.042 --> 01:10:21.162
hopping on in the middle of

01:10:21.203 --> 01:10:23.645
that chaos was absolutely

01:10:23.925 --> 01:10:25.787
fabulous because I'm

01:10:25.827 --> 01:10:26.726
feeling good over here.

01:10:26.807 --> 01:10:27.787
I'm going to text Dwight.

01:10:27.967 --> 01:10:29.208
Dwight, can you get on?

01:10:29.248 --> 01:10:30.430
It's like 11 o'clock at night.

01:10:30.869 --> 01:10:31.631
Give me five, Kurt.

01:10:31.671 --> 01:10:32.150
I'll be there.

01:10:32.492 --> 01:10:35.094
Next time you hop on screen, it's like, oh,

01:10:35.134 --> 01:10:35.453
man.

01:10:36.192 --> 01:10:37.512
yeah you know I don't have a

01:10:37.793 --> 01:10:38.713
I don't have a favorite

01:10:38.734 --> 01:10:41.537
team anymore um except tech

01:10:41.577 --> 01:10:42.998
like I grew up a washington

01:10:43.458 --> 01:10:45.820
skins fan and when snyder

01:10:45.841 --> 01:10:46.881
took over I just kind of

01:10:46.902 --> 01:10:48.104
fell back I play fantasy

01:10:48.123 --> 01:10:50.166
football I do parlays nba

01:10:50.206 --> 01:10:51.207
is more of a player so I

01:10:51.266 --> 01:10:52.448
have players I check for

01:10:53.068 --> 01:10:53.729
and you know I like

01:10:53.769 --> 01:10:54.850
watching jason tatum and

01:10:54.869 --> 01:10:56.011
other guys curry is great

01:10:56.030 --> 01:10:57.533
to watch but when it comes

01:10:57.573 --> 01:10:58.434
to tech man y'all gotta

01:10:58.453 --> 01:10:59.614
understand something bro when

01:11:00.645 --> 01:11:02.166
When we lost in Boston College, man,

01:11:02.206 --> 01:11:03.207
we were number three or

01:11:03.266 --> 01:11:04.247
number something in the nation,

01:11:04.306 --> 01:11:05.346
and we lost at that last

01:11:05.367 --> 01:11:06.346
minute with Matt Ryan.

01:11:07.226 --> 01:11:08.847
We lost those games that we

01:11:08.887 --> 01:11:09.648
shouldn't have won.

01:11:10.408 --> 01:11:11.768
You know, for me, it sits with me.

01:11:11.788 --> 01:11:13.109
It hurts my spirit.

01:11:13.128 --> 01:11:15.628
Because, you know, it's my squad, bro.

01:11:15.649 --> 01:11:16.770
Like, you know, I helped build that.

01:11:16.829 --> 01:11:17.050
Like,

01:11:18.149 --> 01:11:19.789
you will never catch me at a pro game

01:11:19.850 --> 01:11:21.030
fighting with a Raiders fan.

01:11:21.190 --> 01:11:21.730
I don't care.

01:11:21.930 --> 01:11:23.011
I'm there just to watch the

01:11:23.030 --> 01:11:24.530
game and make sure my parlay hit.

01:11:25.212 --> 01:11:27.292
But with Tech, it means too much, man.

01:11:27.782 --> 01:11:28.981
That's why I was on Sally's

01:11:29.021 --> 01:11:31.323
pod Twitter live that night, man,

01:11:31.342 --> 01:11:32.743
until damn near 3 in the morning.

01:11:33.323 --> 01:11:33.904
I really was.

01:11:33.944 --> 01:11:34.844
We were on there like 2

01:11:34.844 --> 01:11:35.645
o'clock in the morning.

01:11:36.164 --> 01:11:38.484
Because I didn't do it just

01:11:38.524 --> 01:11:39.905
for pride and Virginia Tech.

01:11:39.945 --> 01:11:41.685
I did it because I needed

01:11:41.706 --> 01:11:42.947
the fans to calm down

01:11:43.006 --> 01:11:44.386
because we were on that pod

01:11:44.747 --> 01:11:46.188
because we love Tech.

01:11:46.268 --> 01:11:47.927
We were ready to blow.

01:11:48.029 --> 01:11:49.929
Yeah, people were talking.

01:11:50.048 --> 01:11:50.929
It was anarchy.

01:11:50.948 --> 01:11:52.229
I mean, it was crazy.

01:11:52.250 --> 01:11:53.689
People were like, yeah, man.

01:11:53.810 --> 01:11:55.251
But we wrote it out.

01:11:56.587 --> 01:11:58.930
And, you know, God bless everybody, man.

01:11:58.949 --> 01:12:00.011
I appreciate y'all, for real.

01:12:00.030 --> 01:12:02.032
I appreciate you, brother.

01:12:02.112 --> 01:12:02.592
Appreciate you.

01:12:03.673 --> 01:12:03.953
Yeah.

01:12:04.073 --> 01:12:04.493
Yes, sir.

01:12:05.154 --> 01:12:06.636
So, y'all keep up the great work, man.

01:12:06.756 --> 01:12:08.157
I will catch y'all on the next one.

01:12:08.176 --> 01:12:09.497
Of course, when y'all go live again,

01:12:09.537 --> 01:12:10.498
I'll be there with my

01:12:11.078 --> 01:12:12.701
comments at the bottom doing my thing.

01:12:12.740 --> 01:12:14.601
We'll throw them up there.

01:12:14.622 --> 01:12:15.422
We'll keep it moving, man.

01:12:15.443 --> 01:12:16.222
Appreciate you, Dwight.

01:12:16.302 --> 01:12:17.704
Appreciate you, Dwight.

01:12:17.744 --> 01:12:19.206
Tell Isaiah to keep doing his thing.

01:12:19.525 --> 01:12:20.006
Yeah, man.

01:12:20.025 --> 01:12:21.027
Keep us in prayer, man.

01:12:21.046 --> 01:12:22.207
We all trying to do the right thing.

01:12:22.748 --> 01:12:23.229
Yes, sir.

01:12:23.649 --> 01:12:23.828
Yes, sir.

01:12:23.849 --> 01:12:24.310
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All righty, we are back.

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We got a couple more things

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we're going to hit before

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we wrap up here tonight, y'all.

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It came out today,

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and I just wanted to hear

01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:00.600
my two guys' opinions.

01:14:00.680 --> 01:14:01.720
Clemson has effectively

01:14:01.940 --> 01:14:04.761
joined Florida State in suing the ACC.

01:14:05.903 --> 01:14:07.422
I don't think – I'm not shocked.

01:14:07.542 --> 01:14:09.003
Brian, Tally, y'all got anything on it?

01:14:09.743 --> 01:14:10.564
I'm not shocked.

01:14:11.345 --> 01:14:12.166
I think they were going to

01:14:12.206 --> 01:14:14.007
be the next domino always.

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That was kind of what we

01:14:15.729 --> 01:14:17.030
expected from the jump.

01:14:17.190 --> 01:14:18.813
Them, maybe UNC,

01:14:18.872 --> 01:14:21.055
kind of a potential to

01:14:21.095 --> 01:14:22.916
throw their name in there, maybe Miami.

01:14:22.975 --> 01:14:24.478
But Clemson was always,

01:14:24.898 --> 01:14:26.239
from a revenue standpoint,

01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:27.180
going to be the team that

01:14:27.199 --> 01:14:29.221
can make the most noise at

01:14:29.242 --> 01:14:30.583
the top end of the ACC.

01:14:30.623 --> 01:14:31.224
So they're going to

01:14:31.444 --> 01:14:33.286
obviously be the ones –

01:14:33.286 --> 01:14:34.206
that would have the most

01:14:34.246 --> 01:14:35.167
grievances under the

01:14:35.207 --> 01:14:37.186
current current rules the

01:14:37.226 --> 01:14:38.307
modified rules that we're

01:14:38.347 --> 01:14:42.668
moving into um so it

01:14:42.708 --> 01:14:44.208
doesn't surprise me I'm

01:14:44.269 --> 01:14:45.489
interested to see the

01:14:45.569 --> 01:14:47.069
lawyers for fsu versus the

01:14:47.109 --> 01:14:48.051
lawyers for clemson because

01:14:48.131 --> 01:14:49.070
clemson is taking a

01:14:49.150 --> 01:14:50.650
slightly different angle

01:14:51.230 --> 01:14:53.572
with their argument so um

01:14:54.011 --> 01:14:55.432
and I think might be a more

01:14:55.472 --> 01:14:57.193
effective angle with their

01:14:57.292 --> 01:14:58.913
argument but we'll see what

01:14:59.694 --> 01:15:02.194
the powers that be rule on there,

01:15:02.295 --> 01:15:04.055
but it's very interesting

01:15:04.095 --> 01:15:05.256
the way they're approaching this thing.

01:15:05.716 --> 01:15:05.815
Yeah.

01:15:05.836 --> 01:15:06.895
And Clemson was a lot more

01:15:06.996 --> 01:15:07.916
quiet about it too.

01:15:08.555 --> 01:15:08.817
Yeah.

01:15:09.197 --> 01:15:10.577
Florida state was ramping up

01:15:10.657 --> 01:15:12.318
and they was woofing a lot.

01:15:12.417 --> 01:15:12.997
You know what I'm saying?

01:15:13.018 --> 01:15:14.278
They had a lot to say before

01:15:14.297 --> 01:15:16.019
they actually pulled a trigger.

01:15:16.038 --> 01:15:17.238
Clemson just kind of did it.

01:15:17.298 --> 01:15:17.418
So,

01:15:18.041 --> 01:15:19.542
Yeah, it is what it is.

01:15:19.822 --> 01:15:20.261
And you know,

01:15:20.301 --> 01:15:21.442
just added fuel to the fire

01:15:21.481 --> 01:15:22.341
with the way the whole

01:15:22.402 --> 01:15:23.262
college football playoff

01:15:23.302 --> 01:15:24.122
shit went down this year.

01:15:24.143 --> 01:15:25.143
So yeah, yeah,

01:15:25.182 --> 01:15:26.844
they were already gassed up before that.

01:15:26.863 --> 01:15:28.465
And you just throw fuel on that fire.

01:15:28.505 --> 01:15:29.524
So they were definitely

01:15:30.185 --> 01:15:31.546
coming at it from a very

01:15:31.765 --> 01:15:33.445
vitriol standpoint.

01:15:34.707 --> 01:15:37.046
Whereas Clemson is very much like, alright,

01:15:37.087 --> 01:15:38.927
we're, we're kind of laying it out here,

01:15:39.328 --> 01:15:40.127
step by step.

01:15:42.469 --> 01:15:43.210
They seem to be a little

01:15:43.229 --> 01:15:44.430
more methodical with their approach.

01:15:45.375 --> 01:15:46.796
But the one methodical thing

01:15:46.855 --> 01:15:48.975
that I do think that I

01:15:49.015 --> 01:15:49.596
don't know why they're

01:15:49.617 --> 01:15:50.577
barking up this tree.

01:15:50.617 --> 01:15:51.997
And I talked to Tally,

01:15:52.037 --> 01:15:53.198
me and we were talking

01:15:53.238 --> 01:15:54.278
about it before we jumped

01:15:54.377 --> 01:15:57.139
on tonight was the whole, well,

01:15:57.179 --> 01:15:58.399
this is too big of a,

01:15:58.460 --> 01:15:59.420
this is too much money to

01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:00.399
get out of a conference.

01:16:00.439 --> 01:16:02.621
And it's like, well, did you sign it?

01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:03.541
Well, yeah, we did.

01:16:04.221 --> 01:16:04.542
Okay.

01:16:04.902 --> 01:16:05.761
That's like signing a

01:16:05.822 --> 01:16:06.662
non-disclosure and

01:16:06.702 --> 01:16:08.002
non-compete with a company, right?

01:16:08.622 --> 01:16:10.823
Hey, this company wants me for $300,000.

01:16:10.904 --> 01:16:11.764
You did a non-compete.

01:16:11.783 --> 01:16:12.444
You can't do that.

01:16:12.503 --> 01:16:12.904
You do that.

01:16:12.944 --> 01:16:14.064
We're going to sue the pants off you.

01:16:14.945 --> 01:16:16.528
Like you can't sit here and

01:16:16.587 --> 01:16:17.708
say it's too much when you

01:16:17.769 --> 01:16:18.529
literally signed the

01:16:18.569 --> 01:16:20.270
document saying it was that much,

01:16:20.530 --> 01:16:21.972
because clearly at that point in time,

01:16:22.033 --> 01:16:22.993
it won't too much to you.

01:16:23.033 --> 01:16:24.074
But now now it's too much

01:16:24.095 --> 01:16:24.854
because I won't leave.

01:16:25.256 --> 01:16:26.756
That's the only part of

01:16:26.856 --> 01:16:30.400
their like release that makes no sense.

01:16:31.001 --> 01:16:32.662
Like if you leave that off there,

01:16:33.203 --> 01:16:33.823
like you said, Brian,

01:16:33.863 --> 01:16:34.765
it's more methodical.

01:16:35.005 --> 01:16:35.865
But that piece doesn't make

01:16:35.905 --> 01:16:36.546
sense to anybody.

01:16:36.567 --> 01:16:37.447
Doesn't make sense to me

01:16:37.927 --> 01:16:40.130
thinking in a legal or business sense.

01:16:40.444 --> 01:16:40.783
Well,

01:16:40.823 --> 01:16:42.965
I think the one thing they're doing

01:16:42.984 --> 01:16:44.225
that may be smart is that

01:16:44.246 --> 01:16:45.586
they're breaking it up into

01:16:45.666 --> 01:16:47.167
two different arguments, right?

01:16:47.947 --> 01:16:48.766
So they're breaking it up

01:16:48.827 --> 01:16:53.009
into the exit fee and then the rights.

01:16:53.609 --> 01:16:53.809
Yeah.

01:16:54.048 --> 01:16:55.130
So combined,

01:16:55.170 --> 01:16:56.970
those are worth about $600 million,

01:16:56.990 --> 01:16:57.831
but broken apart...

01:16:59.163 --> 01:17:01.645
The exit fee is only about 180,

01:17:01.645 --> 01:17:03.925
somewhere in that ballpark.

01:17:04.944 --> 01:17:06.326
So by breaking it out,

01:17:06.706 --> 01:17:07.845
the judge might rule

01:17:08.845 --> 01:17:09.907
affirmatively for them on

01:17:10.127 --> 01:17:11.266
one end and not on the other,

01:17:11.327 --> 01:17:12.067
which might give them a

01:17:12.106 --> 01:17:14.148
little more leverage with

01:17:14.228 --> 01:17:15.507
whatever their potential

01:17:15.568 --> 01:17:16.688
landing spot might be as

01:17:16.728 --> 01:17:17.707
far as new conference and

01:17:17.747 --> 01:17:18.548
what they're willing to

01:17:18.609 --> 01:17:21.729
pony up in order to get

01:17:21.769 --> 01:17:23.529
them out and into their conference.

01:17:24.520 --> 01:17:24.779
True.

01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:25.801
All right.

01:17:26.140 --> 01:17:27.601
I'm looking up at the TV here.

01:17:27.622 --> 01:17:28.582
Let's jump on this thing

01:17:28.622 --> 01:17:29.421
because I don't think they

01:17:29.442 --> 01:17:30.342
can blow this lead.

01:17:30.422 --> 01:17:35.465
Tech's up 72-56 NIT first round at home.

01:17:35.484 --> 01:17:36.826
So looking like they're going to.

01:17:37.046 --> 01:17:37.867
It's less than a minute.

01:17:37.886 --> 01:17:38.506
I think we're good.

01:17:38.527 --> 01:17:40.547
You sure about that?

01:17:42.029 --> 01:17:43.011
If they pull it off,

01:17:43.570 --> 01:17:45.492
props to them because 16

01:17:45.492 --> 01:17:49.774
points in 49 seconds is –

01:17:49.774 --> 01:17:51.175
They deserve to win if they do that,

01:17:51.215 --> 01:17:51.475
don't they?

01:17:51.815 --> 01:17:52.336
Yeah, they do.

01:17:52.716 --> 01:17:53.197
Yeah, they do.

01:17:53.556 --> 01:17:54.216
But I don't think that's

01:17:54.277 --> 01:17:55.658
going to happen because we

01:17:55.738 --> 01:17:57.078
even got the subs out there.

01:17:57.658 --> 01:17:59.720
But, I mean, at least we got in the NIT.

01:17:59.859 --> 01:18:03.402
I mean, you know,

01:18:04.203 --> 01:18:06.064
it's tough to get up for like that.

01:18:06.524 --> 01:18:07.744
The only thing you hope is –

01:18:08.510 --> 01:18:09.890
There's not many guys – the

01:18:09.930 --> 01:18:11.270
only person leaving is Hunter Couture,

01:18:11.310 --> 01:18:13.572
right?

01:18:14.112 --> 01:18:15.091
That's the only person that

01:18:15.612 --> 01:18:16.432
cannot come back.

01:18:16.712 --> 01:18:17.693
Cannot come back.

01:18:17.733 --> 01:18:19.274
That might be a better way to phrase it.

01:18:19.293 --> 01:18:19.713
There you go.

01:18:20.154 --> 01:18:21.333
We don't know who will come back.

01:18:21.713 --> 01:18:23.074
But that's the only upside

01:18:23.135 --> 01:18:24.734
is maybe you get somebody –

01:18:24.734 --> 01:18:26.355
like play Tyler Nichols some more.

01:18:26.376 --> 01:18:28.157
Because we saw at times this year, Tally,

01:18:28.197 --> 01:18:29.337
you can shake your head, yeah.

01:18:29.596 --> 01:18:30.436
When Tyler Nichols – there

01:18:30.457 --> 01:18:31.478
were a couple games where –

01:18:31.478 --> 01:18:32.797
I like Tyler Nichols.

01:18:32.818 --> 01:18:33.798
That kid can play and he's

01:18:33.838 --> 01:18:34.658
coming off the bench.

01:18:34.698 --> 01:18:36.259
And I'm sure at times Tally's like,

01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:37.479
just start him.

01:18:37.520 --> 01:18:37.619
Yeah.

01:18:39.020 --> 01:18:41.162
Mike Young is – I think Mike

01:18:41.182 --> 01:18:41.983
Young is a good coach.

01:18:42.002 --> 01:18:43.225
He's a very systems coach,

01:18:44.185 --> 01:18:45.646
and he looks for system players.

01:18:46.407 --> 01:18:48.628
So system players sometimes

01:18:48.708 --> 01:18:49.810
are more fundamental than

01:18:49.850 --> 01:18:50.930
they are athletic.

01:18:51.532 --> 01:18:51.731
Yeah.

01:18:51.912 --> 01:18:52.292
Again,

01:18:52.893 --> 01:18:54.715
I'm not saying that I know anything

01:18:54.795 --> 01:18:55.775
more than he does because

01:18:55.796 --> 01:18:57.016
he is a good coach.

01:18:57.037 --> 01:18:58.358
He's been coaching for a long time.

01:18:58.818 --> 01:19:01.039
But I can tell you, in the ACC –

01:19:01.966 --> 01:19:03.247
Some of those old systems

01:19:03.307 --> 01:19:04.868
and fundamentals will lose

01:19:04.908 --> 01:19:05.951
you games when you're

01:19:05.970 --> 01:19:07.011
playing against these big

01:19:07.551 --> 01:19:09.654
physical athletic guards

01:19:10.234 --> 01:19:10.956
that you're going to play

01:19:10.975 --> 01:19:14.841
against from Miami, Boston College, Duke,

01:19:15.902 --> 01:19:16.703
North Carolina.

01:19:16.722 --> 01:19:16.703
100%.

01:19:16.783 --> 01:19:18.264
I mean, it's tough, man.

01:19:22.047 --> 01:19:25.831
So I would love for him to, I mean,

01:19:25.871 --> 01:19:26.850
he could have capitalized.

01:19:26.890 --> 01:19:28.893
He did capitalize on some of

01:19:28.912 --> 01:19:29.773
the success he had,

01:19:29.813 --> 01:19:30.613
but then we can't keep

01:19:30.694 --> 01:19:31.833
anybody in Blacksburg.

01:19:32.354 --> 01:19:33.015
You know what I'm saying?

01:19:33.034 --> 01:19:34.155
We get somebody and we think

01:19:34.195 --> 01:19:35.417
they're pretty decent,

01:19:35.436 --> 01:19:36.877
and next thing you know, they're gone.

01:19:37.238 --> 01:19:38.198
Or, you know,

01:19:38.219 --> 01:19:40.119
they don't even start the season.

01:19:40.140 --> 01:19:41.440
So I don't know, man.

01:19:42.713 --> 01:19:43.293
Yeah, I mean,

01:19:43.373 --> 01:19:44.515
it's been frustrating to watch.

01:19:44.555 --> 01:19:46.114
I think, you know, to your point, Tally,

01:19:46.154 --> 01:19:47.555
like when we do get a

01:19:47.576 --> 01:19:48.615
couple of those guys that

01:19:48.676 --> 01:19:50.617
can be bigger or more

01:19:50.976 --> 01:19:52.256
physical and more athletic,

01:19:53.497 --> 01:19:54.557
we tend to not be able to

01:19:54.597 --> 01:19:55.337
hold on to them.

01:19:56.078 --> 01:19:57.979
And then, you know,

01:19:58.279 --> 01:20:00.220
we're kind of taking one step forward,

01:20:00.380 --> 01:20:02.360
two steps back with the way

01:20:02.400 --> 01:20:03.421
the roster management is.

01:20:03.440 --> 01:20:04.261
And I think that's probably

01:20:04.282 --> 01:20:05.261
hurt us more than anything

01:20:06.021 --> 01:20:07.262
is roster management has

01:20:07.283 --> 01:20:09.523
been so inconsistent that

01:20:09.583 --> 01:20:11.717
we can't really –

01:20:11.717 --> 01:20:13.118
lean on anyone but some of

01:20:13.158 --> 01:20:14.460
these more fundamental guys

01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:15.140
that you know are going to

01:20:15.180 --> 01:20:15.942
stick around because they

01:20:16.002 --> 01:20:16.862
fit what Mike Young's

01:20:16.881 --> 01:20:18.023
trying to do schematically.

01:20:18.724 --> 01:20:18.923
Right.

01:20:19.425 --> 01:20:19.685
Yep.

01:20:19.984 --> 01:20:21.707
But that is what it is.

01:20:21.747 --> 01:20:22.927
They'll play Ohio State.

01:20:23.007 --> 01:20:25.168
I assume that'll be – what's today?

01:20:25.189 --> 01:20:27.310
Today is Tuesday.

01:20:27.390 --> 01:20:28.072
Thursday, I guess.

01:20:28.131 --> 01:20:28.612
Tuesday.

01:20:28.692 --> 01:20:30.554
All right.

01:20:30.613 --> 01:20:31.414
Let's roll on.

01:20:31.614 --> 01:20:33.076
Ladies got a four seed.

01:20:33.095 --> 01:20:34.676
They'll be playing at home this weekend.

01:20:34.697 --> 01:20:38.740
I did not see the whole thing.

01:20:38.780 --> 01:20:39.921
I caught pieces of it.

01:20:41.161 --> 01:20:43.021
there's potentially Kittley could play,

01:20:43.662 --> 01:20:46.304
which tells me she did not tear.

01:20:46.863 --> 01:20:48.005
Because my assumption was

01:20:48.045 --> 01:20:48.625
going to be this.

01:20:49.345 --> 01:20:50.466
If that thing was torn,

01:20:51.046 --> 01:20:52.327
as soon as they got to four seed,

01:20:52.367 --> 01:20:53.426
they would just say it, right?

01:20:54.608 --> 01:20:55.849
There's nothing left to hide.

01:20:56.349 --> 01:20:58.890
Chips are on the table.

01:20:58.949 --> 01:21:00.490
I mean, at this point, I mean.

01:21:00.511 --> 01:21:01.251
What are you trying to hide

01:21:01.270 --> 01:21:01.591
from a 13 seed?

01:21:01.652 --> 01:21:03.693
They're going to figure it out real quick,

01:21:03.712 --> 01:21:04.832
practicing in Blacksburg,

01:21:04.893 --> 01:21:06.094
that she ain't going to be there.

01:21:07.546 --> 01:21:09.646
So maybe it's just a

01:21:09.787 --> 01:21:12.146
terrible sprain and it's – I mean,

01:21:12.646 --> 01:21:13.707
I got to pull up the

01:21:13.768 --> 01:21:14.868
bracket here because I know

01:21:14.887 --> 01:21:16.007
we're playing Marshall.

01:21:16.787 --> 01:21:18.109
Who's the five, Brian?

01:21:18.128 --> 01:21:19.448
Do you have that up?

01:21:19.649 --> 01:21:20.488
I can get it up.

01:21:22.770 --> 01:21:25.050
Because either way, you know,

01:21:25.069 --> 01:21:27.131
you feel – it just hurts

01:21:27.150 --> 01:21:28.011
because you know they got a

01:21:28.070 --> 01:21:30.731
legitimate shot if she's fully healthy,

01:21:30.792 --> 01:21:32.351
not only to win two weeks ago,

01:21:32.712 --> 01:21:33.653
but to go deep again.

01:21:34.153 --> 01:21:35.252
And that's where it irritates you.

01:21:37.523 --> 01:21:37.622
Yeah,

01:21:37.643 --> 01:21:38.904
I think that's the biggest thing is

01:21:38.963 --> 01:21:40.505
that you know that there's

01:21:40.524 --> 01:21:41.404
that potential there.

01:21:41.426 --> 01:21:43.766
And it's hard to see if

01:21:43.787 --> 01:21:45.488
they're going to be able to

01:21:45.547 --> 01:21:46.828
live up to that potential

01:21:46.948 --> 01:21:48.189
without her in the lineup.

01:21:49.430 --> 01:21:51.152
We saw some up and down

01:21:51.212 --> 01:21:52.893
stuff in the ACC tournament

01:21:52.993 --> 01:21:55.274
from being able to sustain

01:21:56.614 --> 01:21:57.615
without her in the lineup.

01:21:57.676 --> 01:21:59.256
So it's going to be interesting.

01:22:00.056 --> 01:22:01.457
I think Kenny said something

01:22:01.497 --> 01:22:02.399
to the effect of

01:22:04.305 --> 01:22:05.947
if she didn't have a future

01:22:06.067 --> 01:22:07.988
going forward then they

01:22:08.028 --> 01:22:09.988
might have tried her in

01:22:10.009 --> 01:22:11.510
maybe like the last game or

01:22:11.550 --> 01:22:14.331
something he said something

01:22:14.350 --> 01:22:16.332
to that effect okay

01:22:16.792 --> 01:22:18.193
championship yeah okay

01:22:18.212 --> 01:22:19.493
because of because they

01:22:19.533 --> 01:22:20.613
know she has a future in

01:22:20.654 --> 01:22:22.154
basketball they don't want

01:22:22.175 --> 01:22:24.296
to risk anything you know they want to

01:22:25.327 --> 01:22:26.787
make sure that she's fine

01:22:27.028 --> 01:22:28.127
before she steps back on

01:22:28.167 --> 01:22:30.449
the court so I'm hoping

01:22:30.670 --> 01:22:31.689
that that ain't just coach

01:22:31.729 --> 01:22:32.850
speak you know what I'm

01:22:32.890 --> 01:22:34.310
saying I'm hoping that you

01:22:34.350 --> 01:22:36.512
know like you say it when

01:22:36.533 --> 01:22:38.533
they got that four seed you

01:22:38.554 --> 01:22:39.354
would have said hey she's

01:22:39.373 --> 01:22:41.055
getting surgery because if

01:22:41.135 --> 01:22:41.854
it's acl you're having

01:22:41.895 --> 01:22:43.036
surgery you know what well

01:22:43.055 --> 01:22:44.355
you can't you if you got to

01:22:44.395 --> 01:22:45.117
do it what are you waiting

01:22:45.197 --> 01:22:45.997
on you know what I'm saying

01:22:46.037 --> 01:22:46.657
you want to go ahead and

01:22:46.676 --> 01:22:47.738
get started so you can

01:22:48.318 --> 01:22:50.059
start rehabbing so if it's

01:22:50.118 --> 01:22:51.420
not torn you know

01:22:52.375 --> 01:22:53.335
I would love to see her in a

01:22:53.354 --> 01:22:54.636
Virginia Tech jersey again.

01:22:54.815 --> 01:22:56.676
You know what I'm saying?

01:22:56.716 --> 01:22:57.076
One more time.

01:22:57.195 --> 01:22:59.317
Even if it's one more time, man, you know,

01:22:59.497 --> 01:23:00.417
I would love to see her in

01:23:00.436 --> 01:23:02.078
a – because she deserves that.

01:23:02.537 --> 01:23:02.698
Yep.

01:23:02.837 --> 01:23:04.057
So, I don't know, man.

01:23:04.078 --> 01:23:05.078
I'm holding out hope that

01:23:05.217 --> 01:23:06.038
we'll see her again.

01:23:06.538 --> 01:23:07.538
Yep, and it's Baylor.

01:23:08.038 --> 01:23:10.079
Baylor is the matchup down at home.

01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:11.460
Kind of funny, right?

01:23:11.500 --> 01:23:12.100
Full circle.

01:23:12.500 --> 01:23:14.440
Got to play Baylor a year later.

01:23:15.407 --> 01:23:16.609
All right, last piece.

01:23:16.828 --> 01:23:19.212
I wanted to hit this because, you know,

01:23:19.231 --> 01:23:20.092
we had Joe on here just a

01:23:20.113 --> 01:23:21.895
couple weeks ago talking about wrestling.

01:23:21.914 --> 01:23:24.378
Did y'all see that because

01:23:24.418 --> 01:23:25.119
of the injuries that's

01:23:25.140 --> 01:23:27.863
happened that Tech's now

01:23:27.882 --> 01:23:29.545
the second bedding favorite

01:23:29.564 --> 01:23:30.485
to win a national title?

01:23:31.488 --> 01:23:32.349
I did not see that.

01:23:33.390 --> 01:23:34.310
Joe tweet too much.

01:23:35.150 --> 01:23:37.051
Cause I would go find it and pull it up,

01:23:37.091 --> 01:23:38.694
but it's one of the sites

01:23:38.713 --> 01:23:40.175
he follows pretty closely.

01:23:40.395 --> 01:23:40.774
Literally.

01:23:40.814 --> 01:23:42.015
We are the second betting

01:23:42.076 --> 01:23:43.997
favorite because a couple

01:23:44.018 --> 01:23:47.000
of the categories where Penn state strong,

01:23:47.819 --> 01:23:49.381
it's where guys of ours could win.

01:23:49.402 --> 01:23:51.783
And, you know, Joe talked about it.

01:23:51.904 --> 01:23:53.505
If you get three, there's,

01:23:53.604 --> 01:23:54.706
there's two key injuries.

01:23:54.725 --> 01:23:55.506
Yeah.

01:23:55.546 --> 01:23:55.726
Yeah.

01:23:58.103 --> 01:23:58.502
He's out.

01:23:59.604 --> 01:24:00.685
There's two key injuries

01:24:00.704 --> 01:24:01.765
that are putting us in a

01:24:01.984 --> 01:24:02.826
really good position.

01:24:03.725 --> 01:24:04.787
Weight classes where we were

01:24:04.827 --> 01:24:06.948
already predicted to finish

01:24:06.988 --> 01:24:10.390
pretty high could end up finishing one.

01:24:10.810 --> 01:24:14.212
So you start stacking some

01:24:14.231 --> 01:24:14.972
of that and you start

01:24:15.012 --> 01:24:16.613
getting some of these, I think,

01:24:16.713 --> 01:24:17.213
as Joe said,

01:24:17.253 --> 01:24:18.475
some of the younger guys in

01:24:18.555 --> 01:24:20.815
these spots where we

01:24:20.855 --> 01:24:22.476
haven't looked as good or as sharp.

01:24:22.537 --> 01:24:24.738
I think if you get some extra wins there,

01:24:24.797 --> 01:24:25.779
you might be on to something.

01:24:27.270 --> 01:24:28.310
So that's going to be kind

01:24:28.371 --> 01:24:31.552
of the interesting piece because of that.

01:24:31.953 --> 01:24:33.734
And it's such a weird sport because,

01:24:34.154 --> 01:24:34.395
you know,

01:24:34.435 --> 01:24:35.697
we had a couple years ago young

01:24:35.716 --> 01:24:37.457
guys getting the top five.

01:24:38.177 --> 01:24:38.939
And that's what happens.

01:24:39.198 --> 01:24:41.220
Some kid who's good gets in the top five.

01:24:42.041 --> 01:24:43.282
He becomes an All-American.

01:24:43.322 --> 01:24:44.143
And the next thing you know,

01:24:44.182 --> 01:24:45.323
you go from being 10th to, like,

01:24:45.363 --> 01:24:47.886
being 5th because of that finish.

01:24:48.506 --> 01:24:49.287
It's wild to watch.

01:24:49.346 --> 01:24:50.207
I know we'll be watching

01:24:51.047 --> 01:24:52.789
bracket games and doing fun

01:24:52.810 --> 01:24:54.131
shit like that this weekend.

01:24:55.671 --> 01:24:56.953
Spring ball going on.

01:24:59.779 --> 01:25:00.179
I mean,

01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:02.078
we probably could talk another hour

01:25:02.219 --> 01:25:02.579
on that,

01:25:02.659 --> 01:25:03.800
but I'm going to hold that

01:25:04.140 --> 01:25:06.220
because we got a guest

01:25:06.240 --> 01:25:06.961
coming in a few weeks.

01:25:06.980 --> 01:25:08.240
We're going to talk all about it.

01:25:09.502 --> 01:25:10.641
But I think the thing I want

01:25:10.662 --> 01:25:13.563
to point out real quick, Gunnar Givens,

01:25:13.603 --> 01:25:15.143
Lamar Law goes from the

01:25:15.182 --> 01:25:16.963
defensive line to the offensive line.

01:25:17.923 --> 01:25:19.144
Probably the biggest thing

01:25:19.184 --> 01:25:21.164
that I saw in the,

01:25:21.244 --> 01:25:22.904
as far as depth chart goes, I don't,

01:25:23.085 --> 01:25:24.666
nothing else really jumped out to me.

01:25:25.546 --> 01:25:26.587
Maybe it should have.

01:25:26.707 --> 01:25:28.106
Maybe I just was sitting

01:25:28.146 --> 01:25:30.529
there like this is what I expected.

01:25:30.948 --> 01:25:33.869
I mean, they talked about one of the guys,

01:25:33.909 --> 01:25:34.930
maybe it was Andy today,

01:25:35.511 --> 01:25:38.972
like the first four, Nias, Kamari, Fuga,

01:25:39.573 --> 01:25:42.314
and Gilliam.

01:25:43.175 --> 01:25:44.115
Gilliam, thank you.

01:25:44.996 --> 01:25:50.779
I just like so like, okay,

01:25:51.819 --> 01:25:54.680
that's what we expected, you know.

01:25:55.266 --> 01:25:55.467
Yeah.

01:25:56.430 --> 01:25:57.493
I think that's good.

01:25:57.554 --> 01:25:59.158
I've seen that, uh, you know,

01:25:59.319 --> 01:26:00.923
Montana is Cunningham working, uh,

01:26:02.692 --> 01:26:04.613
Working with the second team right now,

01:26:04.712 --> 01:26:05.632
but we'll see how that

01:26:05.672 --> 01:26:07.752
evolves as camp moves

01:26:07.792 --> 01:26:10.054
forward for spring practice here.

01:26:10.173 --> 01:26:13.635
But I think the biggest news, again,

01:26:13.694 --> 01:26:14.854
is going to be that those

01:26:14.895 --> 01:26:16.614
position switches for Law and Givens.

01:26:17.996 --> 01:26:19.136
Hoping to see Givens kind of

01:26:19.155 --> 01:26:19.876
put things together,

01:26:19.996 --> 01:26:20.935
put the pieces together.

01:26:20.956 --> 01:26:23.976
Getting him on the side of

01:26:23.997 --> 01:26:24.756
the ball where he probably

01:26:24.777 --> 01:26:25.618
should have started if it

01:26:25.658 --> 01:26:27.457
wasn't for depth necessity

01:26:27.478 --> 01:26:29.698
at the time his recruiting

01:26:29.738 --> 01:26:30.838
class came on board.

01:26:31.559 --> 01:26:32.881
Y'all said it a few minutes ago,

01:26:32.902 --> 01:26:34.125
roster mismanagement.

01:26:35.807 --> 01:26:36.590
My God.

01:26:36.670 --> 01:26:38.713
And thankfully,

01:26:38.755 --> 01:26:40.679
the portal helped shore up some of that.

01:26:41.552 --> 01:26:43.012
this off season and we still

01:26:43.033 --> 01:26:44.054
got to keep back feeling,

01:26:44.073 --> 01:26:44.913
but I think that, you know,

01:26:44.934 --> 01:26:46.413
we at least kind of stopped

01:26:46.453 --> 01:26:49.574
the bleeding on that position group.

01:26:49.774 --> 01:26:50.835
So that's good to see

01:26:51.635 --> 01:26:52.876
because when he came on, I mean,

01:26:53.176 --> 01:26:54.376
let's talk about it real quick.

01:26:54.496 --> 01:26:56.837
It wasn't as easy as, okay, well, you know,

01:26:56.856 --> 01:26:57.636
we ended up having,

01:26:57.657 --> 01:26:59.476
we ended up having

01:26:59.516 --> 01:27:01.837
Kendrick's and Pollard for 2023.

01:27:01.837 --> 01:27:02.757
That was not always expected for,

01:27:06.618 --> 01:27:07.600
when those decisions were

01:27:07.640 --> 01:27:09.400
made in 2022 we thought we

01:27:09.421 --> 01:27:10.341
wouldn't have pollard we

01:27:10.360 --> 01:27:11.981
wouldn't have kendrick's uh

01:27:12.002 --> 01:27:12.921
we thought pain was going

01:27:12.942 --> 01:27:13.962
to be gone because he only

01:27:14.002 --> 01:27:15.104
had one year left but then

01:27:15.123 --> 01:27:15.823
he ended up having the

01:27:15.904 --> 01:27:17.045
injury that kind of pushed

01:27:17.085 --> 01:27:19.145
that back a year so we were

01:27:19.206 --> 01:27:20.626
in a very very different

01:27:20.666 --> 01:27:23.828
situation you know late

01:27:23.828 --> 01:27:26.448
2022 than we were right now

01:27:26.670 --> 01:27:28.430
we can actually afford to

01:27:28.451 --> 01:27:30.011
make those shuffles uh that

01:27:30.051 --> 01:27:30.811
we really couldn't afford

01:27:30.832 --> 01:27:34.854
to do at that point so

01:27:35.815 --> 01:27:36.676
There you go.

01:27:36.796 --> 01:27:38.878
And that's the things that are happening.

01:27:39.418 --> 01:27:40.279
Y'all want a good laugh?

01:27:40.300 --> 01:27:41.320
Look at the UVA score.

01:27:41.341 --> 01:27:42.442
Oh, I saw.

01:27:42.462 --> 01:27:45.985
Yeah, I seen it a little bit ago.

01:27:46.086 --> 01:27:48.046
I think B Fish tweeted about it,

01:27:48.087 --> 01:27:51.250
and then I seen it.

01:27:51.350 --> 01:27:53.271
That 10-minute scoring drought is a bitch.

01:27:54.613 --> 01:27:54.753
Well,

01:27:54.774 --> 01:27:56.354
they had only scored like two out of

01:27:56.395 --> 01:27:56.996
halftime.

01:27:58.386 --> 01:27:59.846
I think if you look at both,

01:27:59.926 --> 01:28:02.668
it might be almost a 15 to

01:28:02.668 --> 01:28:04.229
20 minute scoring drought.

01:28:04.409 --> 01:28:04.930
They crazy.

01:28:04.970 --> 01:28:06.712
I don't know what's going on with them.

01:28:08.493 --> 01:28:09.555
They don't understand.

01:28:09.574 --> 01:28:11.055
Y'all got anything else you

01:28:11.095 --> 01:28:12.117
want to talk about tonight, boys?

01:28:12.157 --> 01:28:13.658
Anything that's crossed your mind?

01:28:14.037 --> 01:28:15.618
If you have not went and

01:28:15.699 --> 01:28:19.101
seen the picture of Aiden

01:28:19.122 --> 01:28:20.783
Green with his shirt off flexing,

01:28:21.965 --> 01:28:22.625
go find it.

01:28:22.925 --> 01:28:23.945
I don't know who posted it.

01:28:24.926 --> 01:28:25.728
There's a picture of

01:28:26.679 --> 01:28:28.319
of some of the younger wide receivers.

01:28:29.661 --> 01:28:30.621
And Aiden Green has his

01:28:30.661 --> 01:28:31.721
shirt off and he flexing.

01:28:32.761 --> 01:28:33.162
Big boy.

01:28:35.722 --> 01:28:36.663
BML.

01:28:37.104 --> 01:28:37.564
No homo.

01:28:37.583 --> 01:28:38.244
He done leveled up.

01:28:40.926 --> 01:28:42.766
He look like a statue, man.

01:28:43.386 --> 01:28:45.007
Like I thought he was a skinny kid.

01:28:45.488 --> 01:28:45.847
Hold on.

01:28:45.887 --> 01:28:46.309
Wait a sec.

01:28:46.708 --> 01:28:47.088
You can't.

01:28:47.109 --> 01:28:48.430
This is just a tease because

01:28:48.510 --> 01:28:49.569
after spring game is the

01:28:49.609 --> 01:28:52.011
BMF award from Jonathan.

01:28:52.030 --> 01:28:52.792
Man, listen.

01:28:53.072 --> 01:28:53.612
I'm telling you.

01:28:53.712 --> 01:28:54.773
Aiden Green look like a

01:28:56.158 --> 01:28:58.239
Greek statue, man, on that picture.

01:28:58.260 --> 01:28:59.400
It might have been Photoshopped.

01:28:59.820 --> 01:29:01.162
I know they say he can do AI

01:29:01.181 --> 01:29:01.802
and all that stuff.

01:29:01.823 --> 01:29:03.262
Man, that boy got muscle everywhere.

01:29:04.043 --> 01:29:05.864
You say he's on the BMF watch list?

01:29:06.524 --> 01:29:07.506
BMF watch list.

01:29:07.886 --> 01:29:08.567
I'm telling you, man,

01:29:08.606 --> 01:29:09.967
I know we're getting out of here,

01:29:10.007 --> 01:29:11.448
but spring ball is here.

01:29:11.849 --> 01:29:13.009
It's time to get excited.

01:29:13.029 --> 01:29:14.970
This is going to be a great season.

01:29:16.631 --> 01:29:20.313
My boy Brody is in that number six.

01:29:21.073 --> 01:29:21.853
You know what I'm saying?

01:29:21.893 --> 01:29:23.234
I've been seeing pictures

01:29:23.293 --> 01:29:24.654
and watching them run

01:29:24.713 --> 01:29:26.135
routes with the number six on.

01:29:26.154 --> 01:29:28.136
We got Chaz Wiggins at number seven.

01:29:28.916 --> 01:29:29.176
Hey,

01:29:29.756 --> 01:29:31.457
the wide receiver room is looking good

01:29:31.476 --> 01:29:31.896
right now.

01:29:32.176 --> 01:29:32.936
You know what I'm saying?

01:29:34.018 --> 01:29:36.859
We got some good shit going on.

01:29:36.899 --> 01:29:37.479
Look at Robbie.

01:29:37.519 --> 01:29:38.219
Look at Robbie.

01:29:38.238 --> 01:29:39.460
Talking about parlays.

01:29:39.500 --> 01:29:40.659
Robbie hit a parlay tonight.

01:29:41.341 --> 01:29:44.042
Robbie been on the side here lately,

01:29:44.101 --> 01:29:45.261
so he finally hit one.

01:29:46.636 --> 01:29:48.198
Hey, by the way, other thing,

01:29:48.438 --> 01:29:49.198
and I'm sure we'll talk

01:29:49.238 --> 01:29:51.018
about a little bit more next week,

01:29:51.057 --> 01:29:51.838
Fontel Mines.

01:29:52.958 --> 01:29:53.738
Man.

01:29:53.798 --> 01:29:54.840
That's big.

01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:56.640
I wanted to get that with Dwight.

01:29:56.920 --> 01:29:58.461
Doing what you got to do to

01:29:58.501 --> 01:29:59.801
keep your guy in house, too.

01:29:59.860 --> 01:30:01.122
I mean, that's important.

01:30:01.822 --> 01:30:03.141
That's taking care of your own.

01:30:03.822 --> 01:30:06.922
That's making sure that you

01:30:06.962 --> 01:30:08.024
keep the talent where the

01:30:08.064 --> 01:30:09.163
talent is and you keep the

01:30:09.203 --> 01:30:09.923
talent coming in.

01:30:09.944 --> 01:30:09.923
100%.

01:30:12.085 --> 01:30:12.645
Yep.

01:30:13.765 --> 01:30:13.886
It's 100%.

01:30:14.445 --> 01:30:15.286
Smart-ass move.

01:30:16.707 --> 01:30:17.948
I mean, hey, you know,

01:30:18.009 --> 01:30:19.128
Dwight said it earlier,

01:30:19.168 --> 01:30:20.130
and we're going to wrap up.

01:30:20.149 --> 01:30:20.850
I'm going to kind of try to

01:30:20.869 --> 01:30:21.750
wrap up on this note.

01:30:22.411 --> 01:30:23.511
Frank Beamer had laid the

01:30:23.530 --> 01:30:25.452
blueprint 30-plus years ago.

01:30:26.492 --> 01:30:28.073
All the blueprint needed was

01:30:28.113 --> 01:30:31.295
an updating to the modern times.

01:30:33.074 --> 01:30:34.655
Dust it off,

01:30:34.695 --> 01:30:36.197
put some infrastructure behind it.

01:30:37.537 --> 01:30:40.118
And every little while, everything,

01:30:40.658 --> 01:30:41.719
it hasn't been a quick.

01:30:42.279 --> 01:30:43.720
It unfortunately hasn't been quick,

01:30:44.220 --> 01:30:45.860
but it's everything is a little step

01:30:46.877 --> 01:30:49.979
little rung, little step hit every piece,

01:30:50.038 --> 01:30:50.279
right?

01:30:51.038 --> 01:30:52.020
And it was nice the back

01:30:52.060 --> 01:30:53.180
half of last season taking

01:30:53.220 --> 01:30:54.220
two steps at a time.

01:30:54.981 --> 01:30:56.182
Yep, exactly.

01:30:57.162 --> 01:31:00.824
And as Frank built the house, man,

01:31:00.944 --> 01:31:02.605
all Fuente had to come in

01:31:02.645 --> 01:31:03.487
and do was paint it.

01:31:04.506 --> 01:31:06.588
But this motherfucker

01:31:06.609 --> 01:31:09.871
started putting outhouses in the backyard,

01:31:09.890 --> 01:31:14.052
trying to raise cattle back there.

01:31:14.292 --> 01:31:15.533
When he was on concrete,

01:31:16.689 --> 01:31:18.631
He had all type of bullshit going on.

01:31:18.671 --> 01:31:20.393
So, but that's all right.

01:31:21.354 --> 01:31:22.475
What Chris say right there.

01:31:23.015 --> 01:31:24.657
And probably we trust how we trust.

01:31:25.078 --> 01:31:25.997
And that wraps up this

01:31:26.059 --> 01:31:28.801
episode of the boundary corner podcast.

01:31:29.981 --> 01:31:30.722
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01:31:31.443 --> 01:31:32.243
I'm Brian Siegler.

01:31:33.024 --> 01:31:33.765
Jonathan Talley.

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01:32:02.603 --> 01:32:05.103
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01:32:05.143 --> 01:32:07.384
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01:32:07.804 --> 01:32:09.003
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01:32:12.497 --> 01:32:13.738
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01:32:14.059 --> 01:32:16.039
all of his music, Apple, Spotify,

01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:17.780
his YouTube, Facebook pages.

01:32:18.240 --> 01:32:18.600
Also,

01:32:18.661 --> 01:32:21.341
check out his live event page where

01:32:21.421 --> 01:32:22.622
he is going to be doing

01:32:23.162 --> 01:32:24.082
quite a few things,

01:32:24.182 --> 01:32:24.963
always down at the Grand

01:32:24.984 --> 01:32:26.224
and Village Farmer's Market

01:32:26.323 --> 01:32:27.404
down in Roanoke.

01:32:28.145 --> 01:32:29.286
And in June,

01:32:29.305 --> 01:32:32.109
he has got a Harmony for Hope fundraiser,

01:32:32.149 --> 01:32:32.908
which is going to be at

01:32:32.989 --> 01:32:34.511
Mango's Bar and Grill.

01:32:34.650 --> 01:32:35.872
June 9th will be a little

01:32:35.952 --> 01:32:38.594
festival down on Moneta, Virginia.

01:32:38.613 --> 01:32:40.095
We'll get a little bit more info on that.

01:32:40.716 --> 01:32:41.155
All righty.

01:32:41.235 --> 01:32:44.359
So, y'all, I love talking with Dwight.

01:32:44.498 --> 01:32:45.159
And seriously.

01:32:46.500 --> 01:32:47.081
They'll tell you.

01:32:47.621 --> 01:32:48.402
If Dwight didn't have

01:32:48.442 --> 01:32:49.662
something he needed to get done,

01:32:49.722 --> 01:32:52.110
we'd probably be sitting here until 11,

01:32:52.110 --> 01:32:53.324
30, 12 o'clock talking to Dwight.

01:32:53.685 --> 01:32:53.985
Easy.

01:32:54.786 --> 01:32:55.087
Easy.

01:32:55.527 --> 01:32:55.867
I mean,

01:32:55.886 --> 01:32:58.429
we move fast and furious through

01:32:58.469 --> 01:33:00.631
some of those topics versus

01:33:00.650 --> 01:33:01.490
how we normally would.

01:33:01.671 --> 01:33:02.171
Oh, yeah.

01:33:03.072 --> 01:33:04.052
I'm glad we were able to get

01:33:04.073 --> 01:33:05.052
the content we did.

01:33:05.073 --> 01:33:07.493
Dwight is a great guest always.

01:33:08.055 --> 01:33:08.875
He brings it.

01:33:09.095 --> 01:33:10.135
He's got the facts.

01:33:10.175 --> 01:33:11.256
He's got the knowledge.

01:33:12.036 --> 01:33:14.577
And he's super connected.

01:33:14.596 --> 01:33:15.877
So, I mean, he really knows.

01:33:15.898 --> 01:33:17.698
He's got the nose to the grindstone,

01:33:17.738 --> 01:33:18.618
boots on the ground.

01:33:19.640 --> 01:33:20.960
It's always great

01:33:21.000 --> 01:33:21.841
information when Dwight

01:33:21.881 --> 01:33:23.900
comes on board with us.

01:33:23.921 --> 01:33:23.900
100%.

01:33:24.221 --> 01:33:25.822
We thank all 300-plus of

01:33:25.862 --> 01:33:27.842
y'all who have been with us all night.

01:33:27.922 --> 01:33:29.043
Really appreciate that.

01:33:29.363 --> 01:33:30.444
We thank y'all for listening.

01:33:30.503 --> 01:33:31.685
And as always, let's go.

01:33:32.489 --> 01:33:33.016
Hokies!