Never Tapped Out

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Welcome back to the boundary
Corner podcast.

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My name is Curtis Wilson, I'm
Brian Sigler, buddy.

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Big Night, Big Night.
Big night for the boundary

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Corner podcast.
We are going live tonight

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streaming.
And tonight, folks, we have

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Hokies Legend, and current
assistant defensive line coach

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for my San Francisco. 49ers
Darryl Tapp is going to be

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joining us.
Hey man, I can't wait.

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Yeah.
I mean, this is big.

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Everyone that's been watching
the podcast.

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They know how we feel about
DTaP, so big to have them all.

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Let's go ahead and bring him in
here, sir DTaP.

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How are you doing tonight?
Doing Goodfellas.

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I'll be living the dream and
living the dream.

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Thanks for joining us live in a
dream.

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Nice 90-degree day here in the
r-va in Virginia.

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Has it out there on the west
coast tonight.

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It's nice.
There we go.

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There we go.
So detached.

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Let's let's start it off this
way.

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How's the move-in for you?
It's been, it's been good.

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It's been really good.
The wife and I are transitioning

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out here to get locked and
loaded.

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Optimus season but the
organization has been awesome.

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Lady has been very helpful for
are going to set up and trying

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to move our stuff and car ship
and the whole nine and it's

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allowing me to come here and
focus on learning from these

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coaches and getting ourselves
prepared for this season.

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All right, Brian, I'm going to
take over the next few questions

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man, because I gotta ask close
to the heart, I get it, I get

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it, it's my art man.
Then as I said, I'm a Niners

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fan.
Now you're coming into a

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situation on that defensive
line, Nick Bosa, Eric arms about

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dead.
Javon, kinlaw, got Samson.

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Picked him up in free agency.
How are you feeling about the

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room so far?
I'm excited.

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We have a all veteran room,
like, we don't have any rookies.

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We don't have any apps that take
a call them puppies, could

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geysers coming in trying to
learn everybody and we're 15

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deep.
I Believe full of guys that have

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played ball in this league.
So these guys are coming with a

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different mindset for us what
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Accomplish what they want to do.
Guys have stuff to prove this

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year.
You know last year unfortunately

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got hit with a lot of different
injuries and things that happen

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on the heels of a Super Bowl run
the year before.

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So guys have come into OTAs and
going into mini camp with a

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different focus and it's pretty
cool to be a part of and see how

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they've been attacking their
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Yeah, absolutely.
We are a very veteran Laden

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Group.
I mean I think the youngest guy

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in there might have three years
experience and for me, obviously

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some really A high draft picks.
I hope Nick's looking good.

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I know he's recovering but has
it now, you know, we I take a

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look, you know, Robert solow
gets hired comes here to East

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Coast to the Jets and an old
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And friend, man, D'Amico Ryan's
is taken over how things feeling

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with him at the him in.
How's it feel having someone you

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played with running the show?
It's awesome.

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Honestly for me that was a huge
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To have somebody to play with
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Well how he operates and rocks
especially in critical

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situations like he's a calm guy.
Like he's going to he's he's the

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waters, allow guys, wide and
focus on their work but he's

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been commended unreal.
Like just like I said a calm

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presence the scheme that is
going to run and bring in isn't

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a liar guys go play fast and
guys have been gravitated

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towards him as well.
Like he's a guy that everybody

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respects not only by the way, he
carried himself but in fact he

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did it in this league for a long
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Yeah, absolutely.
I mean he did it for quite a

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while and you know I'll be
honest I listen to the Bay Area

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radio.
I read all the reporters and

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obviously a lot of people are
saying, you know, we were neck

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covered three and why people
smoke the meat going just going

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to stick with that D'Amico, got
some aces up his sleeve.

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He's probably going to play, so
you don't have to answer this,

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but yeah, should I expect to see
maybe some different things?

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He's all around from D'Amico's
defense.

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I think you should expect to see
anything in fact that because

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playlist leave and he knows how
to think as a linebacker.

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You know how to think as a
coordinator.

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He's going to be able to attack
different schemes to come in

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here and we're going to be right
in his pocket.

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Doing the same thing.
He asks us to do, we got some

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stuff we got some stuff ready to
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That is just awesome to hear.
All right, one is music to your

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ears record my that one more
thing, you know, You know,

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you're now working as a
colleague with Christmas, or

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Christmas spirit Coast, you mr.
Detroit Krista sir, highly

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respected defensive line coach.
And I can say, I saw it, the

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day, they brought him in there,
I'd defensive line changed from

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being good, to being borderline
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But what's that relationship?
Like now, you know, you want

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from the player and now you're
right next to him, your the

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colleague, what's your
relationship like with Chris?

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Now that you know, things have
changed Things have changed from

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my actual roll my title.
Okay, but they haven't changed.

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When I got to Detroit, I was a
year nine in.

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So I was already an old head and
or dinosaur, or a relic.

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I do you want to say yeah, but I
was a player's coach.

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So I already understood what I
need to do and what everybody

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else in the diesel, I need to
do.

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And that's part of the reason
that coach Chris was invested in

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me as a player because I was
able to be a player coach told.

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Really hasn't changed other than
my title.

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Me being a go out there and
operate and do things that play

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off of him and get that message
across as been.

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The same thing is automatic,
it's incredibility with Coach

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Chris, he played in the league
for a couple years and he's been

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a guy that has been able to
transform career, the extend

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them and I'm living proof of
that man's work.

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Now play for two years and
extending my career as well and

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play some great balls.
So the guys see that they know

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that they know that coach Chris
invested in them.

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They've seen the way I've
carried myself and Coach.

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Chris, didn't put his name with
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That isn't about the same thing
that he's about, have conviction

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this scheme and what we're
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So it's been an awesome
transition for us.

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Me being a coach, but far as
Kriss and my relationship.

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It's been the same.
If anything, he's pouring even

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more into me.
Now, as a coach in the same way

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point to me as a player like
he's family.

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It's awesome to hear ya.
And I guess the other thing

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that, you know, I want to kind
of ask Out Chris.

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Because I mean you talked about
before we jumped on like that

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Detroit Lions line, you know, do
you see pieces of the Niners

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line?
Its kind of cause y'all were

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that was a really good tip line.
With, you know, I've been you

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mentioned suing some other guy
Ziggy Ansah.

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I mean you see this kind of
shaping up this year to be like

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that?
I hope so.

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So when I first got here, one of
the biggest things was get

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familiar with the players on R&D
line as well as our defense but

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especially the deal.
Line find out what the strengths

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weaknesses are find out how they
mesh then Rock together in the

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first film.
We looked at was filmed from the

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Super Bowl ring year and those
guys were flying around

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everywhere, doing everything
playing with great effort,

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passion for the game energy.
And I said last year, it just

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took a little bit of injury
toll, but that 19 years looked

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exactly how we looked in 1492.
Camaraderie we have the defense

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online.
Now, you have pretty much all

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those guys back.
You added a couple more pieces

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than I said.
The way these guys have been

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handling their business going
into, ho Tas and hitting the

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minicamp in.
A couple weeks has been Elite

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like my dear.
These guys are grown men and

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they know what they're going to
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Everybody has something to prove
to themselves, and they want to

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do it with each other.
Okay, one more class.

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Mm, one more hit.
So, I talked to him, I meant

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John Lynch is a GM Hall of Famer
you play for Kyle.

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Shanahan with the Redskins when
he was the o.c. there.

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Coach bye chriskiss turret and
you play with D'Amico.

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Ryan's, how does it make you
feel professionally as you're

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getting into coaching?
They picked up that phone call

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DTaP and said, hey, here's the
opportunity to coach with a guy.

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You guys are very familiar with
and it's Beast group of lineman.

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Like, how does that make a guy
feel that you're getting your

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coaching career started?
It is, I can't I'll get to be

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honest, it was a Bittersweet
feeling because I had finally

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got back to Virginia, Tech the
coach, like the dream of dreams,

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like, never thought it would
happen and got that opportunity.

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What I had to?
Thank my mom.

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And dad, my two older brothers
for raised me to right way.

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They always taught me that you
treat everybody, right way.

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Can you never know what those
British had to come back around?

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Yep, so I played for Coach
Shanahan with the Redskins with

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the Washington football team now
in 2001 13.

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From the staff from last year
that was here with the 49ers at

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play for 12 different coaches
between the Redskins lines in

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the Eagles.
So the way that carried myself,

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the way I handle my business,
the way I came to work with an

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attention to detail and built
the relationships, have brought

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it all the way back to 2021, to
my first opportunity to coach in

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the NFL.
And just as small as it is,

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smaller chance it is for players
to get from college to plant in

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the field is like 10 times
harder as a coach, in the way

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they have my business brought me
to this opportunity here.

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So it was an unbelievable
experience.

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And feeling to my said to have
that phone call with Coach.

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Chris, the tell me about
opportunity to had a phone call

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from the me cohort, we refer a
teammates together in

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Philadelphia.
In in Krakow, Shanahan to

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solidify with opportunity to
come out here and coach and get

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my feet wet.
Be coaching and be around this

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great organization is, it's been
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Like, I feel like that do them
in training.

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They were Denzel Washington like
every day.

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I'm learning something that's
awesome to see how the other

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side of the game at this level.
Yeah that's awesome to hear.

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So I got a question stop, non
her specific because I'm not I'm

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not quite in the tank like
Curtis is there.

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But I mean, the biggest.
And so you been power, five

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defensive line coach.
Now your system defensive line

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coach the NFL level recruiting
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Like, what's the biggest
difference between those two

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that you've seen so far in like,
a few months in the NFL?

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I will say that the biggest
thing is that now you're dealing

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with grownups Meaning that in
college the main goal is to push

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these guys from childhood to
adulthood, you want to help this

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guy become better men in every
aspect academics, social skills

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who football knowledge and then
give them the get them across

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the line to get their degree.
Whereas now, the NFL, this is

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now a job and you have to
continue to stress that to these

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guys, especially ones that come
in force that I have to do that

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this year.
But older guys to understand it

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even more, So like in a field
means not for long like that is

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truly a real thing and I was
fortunate and blessed to play

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longer than the 2.7 year average
but you're stressing.

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This is a job like if you don't
get it right?

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Yeah.
That will find somebody else

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that will.
So every day you need to step in

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this building for the kids that
got to be need to get out of bed

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with a clear-cut focus on what
you're trying to accomplish and

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what you're trying to do.
Because this is Benefit, you

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want to benefit your family and
you're playing a child's game

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for a king's Ransom.
So you need to maximize every

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opportunity.
You have to have to play this

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game in earn a way of life for
your family.

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Whereas in college these guys
still kind of you still trying

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to get them out of the high
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right I can mess up today.
I still be good tomorrow.

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Don't worry, I didn't feel
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these guys as much as we love
them all, they're competing for

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a spot competing for opportunity
to plan is leader only 1800

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Dobbs, so you got to make your
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that you do and be mindful of
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That's awesome.
That's awesome.

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That's the big thing for me to
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difference like you said you're
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high school.
They're not used to the that

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paper grind that right when
you're in the NFL every day

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counts because the next day
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it.
Also before we get into more

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conversation here with Darryl
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Alright DTaP.
We're going to get back into it

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here.
We're going to Pivot more, two

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more hokey, specific stuff
Downs.

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That Curtis has had his moment
in the sun here.

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So you know this year you're
working with chriskiss Erick

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last year you were working with
Bill tearling who was close to

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my heart as a Colts fan the name
clearly you know, Right out the

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gate.
I was like oh we got Bill coming

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in.
Okay, okay so I mean not many

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guys, gonna change the coach
with that level of guys that

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have done it in that the NFL,
what was it like to work with

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Bill last year?
It was good honestly.

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Coach ham and coach football
coach went to and Coach ham did

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a great job of assembling staff
for people that care.

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Now, with that said, it was a
beast last year because you do

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it so many things that it did.
Ed with the wrong of first and

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foremost.
It was a brand-new Stan.

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We never really got a chance to
really Vibe and click as a

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complete unit to a party later
on in the season.

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So we'll still learning each
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weaknesses.
And what everybody did best,

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then we're trying to install it
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via zoom and we were just
learning Zoo myself.

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So you had to try to keep those
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So it was so many hurdles we had
to get across, but I can tell

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you that on that defensive side
of the ball, Yeah, we came to

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work every day with a clear-cut
focus on how to try to get these

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kids on the same page.
Believing the same thing and you

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started to see how much better
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latter part of the Season
though, we saw a really good

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ball.
So I got to imagine that was

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Spring ball this year trying to
be in the same system and seeing

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the Pieces come together from a
coaching staff and from a player

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standpoint that is going to be
even more improved this year and

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get this thing right back on the
way it needs to go.

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Love to hear that.
Love to hear that about Bill.

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Love to hear that about the
other parts of the defensive

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staff.
They're absolutely.

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Let's talk about one of the
bright spots of last year's

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team.
Amari bar.

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No kid comes in.
I switches positions works his

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way into the too deep.
And then by seasons in, you

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know, he's one of the standout
players on your unit, can you

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tell us a little bit more about
amar'e's transition to defensive

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end?
And at what point last year, did

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you know that he was going to be
special at the position?

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Well, we already knew that Mari.
Was he when a coach for Monday's

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favorite, guys?
You know, he hadn't had the

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success that he wanted or Vision
early on, but he played his tail

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off on special teams.
He was in a linebacker world.

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So coach coach building myself
and Coach Han, we want to coach

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food like let's please let her
just this.

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The switch positions on this
guy.

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Look at him.
At the DS4 I can we gotta get

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our best athletes on the field
like the teams that we're

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playing an agency were explosive
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The side, the ball.
We have to build a match that

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with the same kind of explosion,
same kind of speed and evil side

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of.
Also coach Fuente.

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Allow does it to entertain
pushing mono to, then he had a

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conversation with Bruno's, mom,
want to make sure everybody's in

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the loop and everybody feel good
about the transition.

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And then from that point on
Maria and myself and Coach Zack,

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RGA that point in time, we spent
time with him going over foot.

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We're going over hand placement.
Burning pass rush though.

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Cut out something else
completely foreign to him.

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Yeah we played well I'm back.
So we had to get to the point

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where it did that the Roanoke
knock some guys out for a couple

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weeks and you had a couple
injuries as always having the

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football.
And next thing you know I'm

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already starting games and
playing with Elite effort and

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Amari or Bardo is a smart smart
cat and he understands Concepts,

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he understands what to do and
he's use their cap.

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You can tell him once.
Maybe twice he got it, okay?

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So the reefs of bound that he
made last year during the

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season, really not having an
offseason to murder stuff.

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Like we're literally learn on
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practice.
So dish, I said this year, this

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opportunity has OTAs Primo like
he could completely take off and

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if he's fortunate enough to get
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he's super athletic.
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So all the, all the cars and all
the dominoes are stacked in his

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favor and I said, just continue
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Far as learning the defense
learning how to be a defensive

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end and then learning the
fundamentals and techniques you

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need to succeed that it could
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It could be scary this year.
Can I have some yeah, follow up

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on that.
What when was it like?

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Was it the first time he
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you like?
Oh boy.

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Oh, he's big and can move.
Okay, okay.

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Sandwiches calls right?
Oh man, that's great.

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That's great.
You know we love watching bar no

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progress last year.
I mean, that was, that was kind

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of one of the big highlights
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So it's good to hear that, that
transition kind of went like,

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like, like we were talking about
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Let's talk about another guy,
Jordan Williams.

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He was a big ad from the portal.
Just before you took the 49er

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job, he made a point.
To mention relationships with

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you and Coach Fuente as to, why
he ended up coming to the

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Hokies.
What was it?

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Like, helping recruit a
high-profile transfer portal

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player like Jordan.
And like, what's the biggest

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thing that he's going to bring
to the table for the Hokies in

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2021?
Well, it was cool that we were,

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always always scaring the the
portal for Gaza.

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Can help your team.
That's kind of where college

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football is kind of come to
right now.

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But with him being a guy from
the 757, it hit close.

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At home, they'll Coach, Rick
kills already familiar with

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them.
From being like, I think it was

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top.
I think it was, it was between

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Tekken clips and before he made
it sound, as you know, the club

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set.
So coach Fuente always wanted

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Jordan to be a part of the
family will meet being a 757

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guy.
I want all the best guys from

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that area to come here to have
the same experience that I had a

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Virginia Tech so it was Elite
like soon as he was officially

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in the portal.
I was on, go get him out.

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All right, it wasn't it wasn't a
sale job.

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That's not something that I
believe in is not something that

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coach hand believes and or coach
Fuente, we will tell you the

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truth and who better to tell you
the truth, then a guy like

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myself that played there,
graduated from there and three

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and a half years.
Got the opportunity to play in

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the league from the exact same
place you are.

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So we were there to connect on
that I was able to connect with

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his mom and dad on the on
opportunity they had ever

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diente.
It just, it is, everything is

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fun in place and I think for him
being that he was at Clemson, he

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played it.
I think what three or four

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straight plays its the other, is
he a, a playoff brackets and

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want a pink one or two?
Maddie's like he has a wealth of

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knowledge and wealth of wisdom
to give to your guys.

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And when you have a guy like
that elevates, everybody's

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plate, everybody's production
and even as coaches, it elevates

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you because you want to make
sure that you're putting

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everybody in the right.
Position to accomplish the team

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going to come to their
individual goals as well.

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So he adds so much to this
picture, he can really take all

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this year.
I know that he's been doing very

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well.
Condition-wise went from

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Colorado's is I went to work out
what through Spring ball like

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guys respect him and what he
brought to the table and he has

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a chance to really make a huge
name for himself in the ACC and

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hopefully put himself into
running to be drafted next year.

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Absolutely.
And you know, speaking of the

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757, you know, before example
and 75.

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Yeah.
Have water.

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Some fans, have you want to call
it before you approach for the

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49ers?
You know, you were kind of

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starting to run the point on the
757 recruiting and in Virginia

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Tech football.
Um, My Relations, which is one

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of our guests to white dick.
Looks like he's taken that baton

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from you and starting to run
with it on his own.

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Right.
But yeah, what are some of the

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challenges?
Challenges down in the 75 and

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the alumni fronts today that may
not have been there when you

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were first getting the tech back
in the early 2000s.

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Probably the biggest thing is
that you have a coach has only

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been there for it now six years.
No one, I can detect Beamer and

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Coach Foster and clockwise
already been there for 16 years.

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Yeah, you know, so there's a
level of continuity and

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stability that was established
and it was already running this

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course where you have New guy
coach Fuente.

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That was not coach Beamer.
Everybody that's a college

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football fan, especially the
tech fans.

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They understand stuff within a
certain way in Blacksburg and

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that's what is used in 434. 29
years coach Beamer for 32 years

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of Coach, false and Coach Wiles.
That's how stuff was done.

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So we could have been coach
false, they could have came

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bench.
Coach Fuente, could have been

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coach Smith or Coach, Joe
whoever it was that came in

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after coach Beamer, it would
have been the exact same boat as

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coach Fuente is in now.
And he's continually to try to

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lead and do things his way still
got to pay.

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Homage the code way, coach
Beamer distance, but this is

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coach Fuente program, and I
think that's why they've been

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the biggest hurdle that him and
the staff that he's continued to

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put together.
Have always had to overcome and

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stuff.
Was done a different way.

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Back when I was coming out, like
we had to make our highlight,

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takes on VHS, the poly people on
this.

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On this, it is this called, I
know what VHS is, probably,

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right.
Where is now as a college coach,

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if you talk about a kid that's
out here in California and I'm

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in Blacksburg, I can be on the
phone with him, recruit him in

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30 minutes or less at the scene
as highlight tape.

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I got his transcript like you
just a different way so the

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relationship that were built
back then it was certainly was

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done back then that's not
necessarily done now because now

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you have a bigger footprint and
now you having to compete with

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more people, like it was unheard
of for Notre Dame or USC or

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Arizona.
Of these schools to come to

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Virginia to get kids.
Could they didn't know about.

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So now you have to do with that
this whole explosion of

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recruiting and you got to be on
the even more so where it seems

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like wow you know some days you
have it like waxing like take us

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do not offer the everybody or
somebody like that's kind of

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weird.
He is like you have to be on an

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extremely fast.
Do your evaluation and try to

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get these connections because
every school across the nation

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has access to any kid out there
and 75 78, the best kept secret

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that it was back in the 90s and
early 2000s.

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Because you mentioned something
and I'll ask you this, you know

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you are getting recruited 01:02,
right?

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You signed out to the cursor is
what was the farthest school?

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You got an offer from Notre Dame
Notre Dame.

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Okay yeah and Kevin Rogers who
was the the quarterback coach

450
00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:21,300
you because your Tech?
Yeah he was the one he was and

451
00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:24,300
then I didn't hear from him for
like a couple months.

452
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:43,000
University of Virginia Tech
University of Maryland and

453
00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:47,000
Florida and Florida is one of
those schools that was kind of

454
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,500
unheard of to.
But the reason why Florida

455
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:52,800
became a school for me because
my middle school, principal

456
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,400
Debbie still works her brother
with the d-line coach.

457
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,200
Ricky hungry.
What the coach do you like coach

458
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,600
at Florida?
So what He offered me a floor

459
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:18,800
tile.
That's why I'm a me.

460
00:26:18,808 --> 00:26:21,900
Because if we do think about it,
I mean, we roughly all the same

461
00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:25,300
age, I'm seven.
I know y'all are in y'all's

462
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:28,100
thirties as well, but it has
changed when there was no

463
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:29,900
Facebook.
There was no Twitter, there was

464
00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:32,600
no Instagram.
We couldn't live stream, this

465
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,300
back in the day, not at all.
It's instant connections.

466
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,000
And, you know, we kind of sit
here and say, well, why is why

467
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,100
can't we do as good down there?
And it's like, because everybody

468
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:46,200
knows about down there.
Yeah.

469
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:48,500
ADI.
And everybody's making the

470
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:51,500
offers and now, you know, you've
got, you've got programs that

471
00:26:51,500 --> 00:27:02,900
have private, Justin coaches can
jump on and put like to ask you

472
00:27:02,908 --> 00:27:07,600
about a mindset, you know, you
mentioned it earlier covid

473
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,800
created.
A lot of really difficult things

474
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,300
in terms of installing and
Justin elements of Defense in

475
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:15,100
2020.
I mean I didn't happen to bring

476
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:18,400
y'all Wade.
That fall Camp was y'all had

477
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,900
some camping then, a gigantic
break for the first game and you

478
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:26,300
kind of mentioned it earlier but
go into it, a little deeper with

479
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:28,800
the benefits of a pull off
season what aspects of the

480
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,700
defense can we as fans and
somebody like Brian who played

481
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:35,000
the game, what are we going to
see different this year?

482
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,100
2021 from James D?
I think this consistency like

483
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,500
Last year it was only so much
stuff we could do because from

484
00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:49,600
week to week you without 10, to
20 players, I mean, think about

485
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:53,100
it, we play UNC.
We were, we were, we were

486
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:55,600
starting a walk-on safety.
Yep.

487
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,700
Now Matheny plate is, but often
but just tested the athletic

488
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:03,800
disparity was so wide that, but
in the game was nothing he could

489
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,400
do.
I mean he went again, he went

490
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,700
against two running backs or
drafted in the first three

491
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:10,600
rounds this year, I was nothing
that he could really do.

492
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,200
So, Diablo missed a lot of
games.

493
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,100
He's a third-round pick, so you
have Caleb Fairley.

494
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:18,000
The first round pick.
He didn't get to play the whole

495
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,400
season.
So it was a lot of things that

496
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,900
cause it presented to us and we
was really on our heels, just

497
00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:26,700
trying to fight back and try to
scheme up.

498
00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:29,200
Stuff to go against teams are
going the same way.

499
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,900
It was a, it was a league-wide
or a nationwide thing with

500
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:36,900
everybody had to deal with, but
just for us, like, it was

501
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:41,600
extremely tough because on top
of we're, installing the System

502
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,600
with brand new coaches.
Like I first three games.

503
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,800
We didn't have a coordinator
nice and they'll adjust.

504
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,400
It was.
Yeah, it happened that it was a

505
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,000
perfect storm of bad stuff.
Yeah, I was, I was always

506
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,500
comparing it with Kurt.
I was like, you know,

507
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:56,800
everybody's got one hand behind
their back this year, but it

508
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,900
feels like if you're installing
new defense, you got both of

509
00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:06,800
them on your back.
It's a wrap, will turn back a

510
00:29:06,808 --> 00:29:10,700
little bit because we got to ask
you some questions about your

511
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:15,200
time.
Matt Tech, you know, bride and I

512
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,400
his first game with Rutgers
2002, you play with my first

513
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,100
game was UCF, opening weekend
2003, you played.

514
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:29,200
So literally, as at first trips.
Tulane Stadium Darryl Tapp was

515
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:34,000
on that ground but the Hokey
lure.

516
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,000
And we we met you four years
ago.

517
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,600
It's bringing we even talked
about it.

518
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,900
Once you've got the lunch pail.
Yes sir.

519
00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:43,000
You never let it go until you
graduated.

520
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,900
And then Bud had to literally
get another lunch pail, because

521
00:29:45,900 --> 00:29:47,800
you took it with you.
Correct.

522
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:48,400
I did.
Yeah.

523
00:29:57,700 --> 00:30:00,600
Everybody on the team to get
that.

524
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,000
But when you showed up in 02
year freshman, was there anybody

525
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,100
on that team in 2002 that help
drive you to be that?

526
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:10,100
A player and you play with some
good ones, man.

527
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:13,100
I can think I know.
Jake Groves was on that team.

528
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,000
Well, familiar with Ron Weasley
maybe.

529
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,800
Yeah.
What was it one guy.

530
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,300
Like when you got there, you saw
them on that field.

531
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:24,300
Practice field.
And again, we were like that's

532
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:29,600
what I'm going through.
Honestly, yes and no.

533
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:33,800
Okay, first it, first and
foremost, I'm a extremely

534
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,800
family-oriented guy.
So my heroes is my mom and dad

535
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,600
and my two older brothers That's
the way.

536
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,800
I was raised like the stuff
wasn't done, right?

537
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,200
I would do it again.
They told me to ride my bike

538
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,200
from home to practice partly
because no Mom was running

539
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,500
everywhere else doing her own
daughter stuff with the support

540
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:52,800
of family, her and dad, and I
had no other way.

541
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:58,400
So, you know, anybody can get
get the going and then to like

542
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:03,800
playing sports growing up, was a
privilege that could be revoked

543
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,800
quite easily, if your grades and
chores will weren't up to par.

544
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,700
Now was I got to take I was
going to Tech with a bunch of

545
00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:16,100
guys from Deep Creek, right
guys, that I looked up to do my

546
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:21,100
teammates Vegas Robinson, James
Anderson DeAngelo Hall and I was

547
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:24,200
going with guys from Tech from
the creek to take Josh.

548
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,800
Hyman all these guys were all
together, so we always push each

549
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,900
other growing up as kids think
that's what we want to do.

550
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:34,200
We had a clear-cut vision when
the conflict when he got to

551
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,100
take.
Now once I personally got to

552
00:31:36,108 --> 00:31:40,600
take the deal on room He's a
veteran Laden Group, I think our

553
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,400
team with a veteran Laden team
where the coaches really had to

554
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,700
do very little to get us going.
Okay, if I wasn't doing, I posed

555
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:53,800
to do, Lamar Cobb cols colas the
Pella DV Jim Davis.

556
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,000
Tim saying is like, all these
guys would put their hands on me

557
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:04,000
to make sure I was going to
write you learn real quick of

558
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,600
your business and fall in line
with what we're trying to

559
00:32:06,608 --> 00:32:10,200
accomplish and you I'll be the
best player to you can be and of

560
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,900
course called your Wiles.
You know, he had a he had a

561
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,000
reputation for helping guys to
reach levels that they haven't

562
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,100
seen.
So for me it was just the

563
00:32:18,108 --> 00:32:20,500
perfect storm of stuff being
where I was raised when I

564
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:22,700
Envision, what I want to do with
the teammates that I had played

565
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:24,500
with.
And I said, walking into a

566
00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:28,700
veteran late and team kind of
created the person that I became

567
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:31,000
once I got today.
Awesome.

568
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,400
Yeah, it's nice having guys that
you're familiar with that, you

569
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,900
have that Comfort level with it.
You know we're going to push you

570
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,100
and tell you when you're not you
know carrying carrying the

571
00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:43,600
weight no doubt and that's
always good to have.

572
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,000
I had some teammates like that,
I played a little ball in hand

573
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,800
and Sydney, I played high school
ball.

574
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,900
It's always good.
Having you have a boy that you

575
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,400
can trust that know that they'll
call you out when you're not

576
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,700
doing the right thing, no doubt
about it.

577
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,900
So you go ahead Curtis, I'll let
you finish what you got last

578
00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:02,000
one.
There anybody ever on the online

579
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,900
that either a you were like oh
this is gonna be the dogfight

580
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,300
and I will help out.
Why do you have to remember one

581
00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:12,900
guy from anybody, Jeff King?
Who's that JFK JFK all the time.

582
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:27,100
Okay man, I played against him
in high school if you'll ask you

583
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:33,300
to, that was crazy.
Technically sound strong like

584
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,600
unassuming, but you'll put his
hands on you.

585
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:39,400
Oh man here, I mean that's even
better to hear about.

586
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,500
Did you think about King and his
work ethic because he's busted

587
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:46,100
his butt to get?
I mean right he's borderline.

588
00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:48,700
I think of Carolina doesn't have
a good season.

589
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:51,100
I think.
Jeff King might get that GM job

590
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:53,700
down there and bride.
Of course you had to play

591
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,300
against them up a few Lasky.
It's funny again.

592
00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:00,400
It's the connections man, it's
no doubt it's while Ow.

593
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,700
So we're going to be straight
up.

594
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:08,600
Okay?
2004 team, it was picked to

595
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:17,400
finish in the bottom half of the
ACC fools fools and that ain't

596
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,699
how it went down.
And obviously Miami game.

597
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:25,699
Me and the man comes over to my
apartment at Longwood, 1:00 kick

598
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:29,000
and cracking beers with watching
that game screaming at the TV

599
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,000
for you guys.
That's feasible, is a very

600
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,500
special place for us.
I think probably.

601
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,400
Because Brown was at Sydney.
I was at Longwood, we got to

602
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,600
watch some games together when
he wasn't playing for our game

603
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,000
early, it just holds a very
special place in our heart.

604
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,800
Be Rands.
Brother was Siegel has ra.

605
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:57,200
Yeah, it's Brandon and Paul what
was so different about that

606
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,600
year?
Because it was it was something

607
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,400
special.
Back in 2004.

608
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:13,400
So I think was a sign of it was
we took it as a challenge, we're

609
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,300
just leaving the biggies, had
finished a year horribly, think

610
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:19,200
we lost like three out of the
last four games.

611
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,200
A year that we won.
Those guys went to bees.

612
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:25,200
And then you got opportunity to
go into the ACC.

613
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,000
And of course everybody knows
like with the whole ordeal to

614
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,900
get us into the ACC in the whole
night, they were trying to leave

615
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:33,100
us out.
And then the way, the powers

616
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:36,000
that be set up, the ACC is they
set it up because they weren't

617
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,700
in Miami and Florida State to
play in the championship.

618
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,900
No, to put it in, put them in
different bracket so you can set

619
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:44,600
it up, but they put us and UVA
and the same bracket like, okay,

620
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,600
this wasn't done with that.
It was just trying to get more

621
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,800
teams in here so they can have
it.

622
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,800
So, we do the same disrespect
and we came out the gate.

623
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,600
We knew we had USC coming out,
the gate.

624
00:35:56,900 --> 00:36:02,700
So our Focus was streamline, the
guys that were coming up coming

625
00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:05,800
in age becoming the Juniors.
We're trying to take the team

626
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,000
over.
That was our total mindset for

627
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,900
the whole season going into
training camp and we caught fire

628
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:17,100
and believe in one another.
Like you still.

629
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,800
Can't come to this day bed, and
I hate to blame every blame

630
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,300
thing on the rails.
But the rails affected the USC.

631
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,500
Damn, right.
Josh Lyman.

632
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,700
The name of the game was changed
in like Biggie's was a run-run

633
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,500
dominantly.
So we had a bunch of guys that

634
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:17,000
kind of play that system.
And those guys are kind of

635
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,700
graduated moving out and as we
move into the ACC, that's when

636
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:23,700
more athletic players that we
had were kind of coming to age,

637
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:28,500
and we just kind of took off, I
don't think that they were ready

638
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:31,100
for this type of physicality
that we had the way coach

639
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:34,100
Gentry, got us prepared to play
each and every season, but

640
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:36,400
especially that season to make
our first impression would it

641
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,000
was the My said that we had to
go out there and let them know

642
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,000
that we're not, no, no, no
Cakewalk that, that showed on

643
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,300
Saturdays and we did we did our
thing.

644
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:52,500
It was exciting to be a part of
noticing that the Rejuvenation

645
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,400
of hokey football.
Yeah.

646
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,600
You know the attended detail
that we had it was a it was a

647
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,400
fun time and it was a lot of
lifelong bonds relations mean it

648
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,900
was it was nice to kind of put a
stamp on the ACC saying, hey,

649
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:09,400
Here, we're here.
We're about to run the rest of

650
00:38:09,408 --> 00:38:11,200
the we're about to run the rest
of this decade.

651
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,700
All right.
So I'm going to Pivot a little

652
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:19,700
bit here to somebody that's near
and dear to pretty much every

653
00:38:19,700 --> 00:38:26,000
hokey fans Hearts Bud.
Foster, you know, obviously

654
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,800
hokey Legend Best to do it.
In my opinion.

655
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:34,000
What are some of the lessons are
habits that you learn from Bud

656
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:38,100
during your time in Blacksburg?
And I that you kind of still

657
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:41,000
carry today or still kind of put
those two action today.

658
00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:47,000
The intensity for the game and
for being consistent in the way.

659
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,900
Karen.
So you couldn't tell if coach

660
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:57,900
Foster was pissed.
Happy sad intensity intensity,

661
00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:00,100
intensity.
And you got to see his passion

662
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:03,400
and love for the game through
that you know and it wasn't just

663
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:07,100
on the football field like he
cares about you as an individual

664
00:39:07,100 --> 00:39:09,600
person.
I coach Foster still to this day

665
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,600
will still call and text me just
Economics.

666
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:13,900
He was going on.
Coach dimmer.

667
00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:16,300
Does the same thing coach times.
Bring with my recruiting coach,

668
00:39:16,300 --> 00:39:17,700
no line coach.
At that point in time.

669
00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:20,000
It still does the same thing,
Mike?

670
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,600
That's the way those guys were,
and that's what, that's all, we

671
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,600
knew.
So that's the same way I try to

672
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,800
carry myself when I was in the
Collegiate level.

673
00:39:28,300 --> 00:39:30,900
And even now, this low like
trying to create a bond with

674
00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:35,500
each individual player because I
still say it now, saying, to the

675
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:39,500
day I retiring, like, If you
show that you can help a player

676
00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:41,700
and you genuinely care about a
player, you could tell a player

677
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:44,600
that the sky is green and
because of that, much love and

678
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,200
respect he has for you in the
way your opponent to him.

679
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:49,100
He'll be like, you know, what
coach tablet is green will be

680
00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:52,100
doing now, you know, you got to
make those relationships, you

681
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:55,400
got investment people, so, they
know that you have the same goal

682
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,300
that they want to accomplish,
you want to try to help them,

683
00:39:57,300 --> 00:40:00,400
get there, that's something that
coach false are always talking,

684
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,000
always brought to us, And
probably the coolest thing of

685
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,500
coolest moment with coach for
also with at NC State game, like

686
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:09,700
we have played our tails off, he
got the ball back to your

687
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:13,200
offense, but their defense was
some some unreal that year they

688
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,200
had like three, four, four
first-round, picks on a deal.

689
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,600
And three of them came out with
me, but to, through material to

690
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,600
in Cairo, me and to him came out
like the year after.

691
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,700
But we did everything we need to
do, we put the ball back in

692
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:27,100
offices hand and let them work.
He like that's one of you

693
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:28,800
brought the whole defense up
said, look I appreciate

694
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:30,300
everything job was the other
day.

695
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,600
And that's something that's
always understood before me in

696
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,100
that moment.
While the game was still going

697
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,800
on there driving to pull us up
and let us know.

698
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,200
Like that means everything,
could we know that we're just

699
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,200
not a commodity like, they
truly, truly cared about us and

700
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,200
we're trying to come and do like
that was, that was pretty

701
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,300
special, that's to remember.
That's awesome here.

702
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:53,000
And like I said, so many hockey
fans like you hear stories about

703
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,600
just how much you could tell
that bud cares about you cares

704
00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:01,100
about the game and just put
everything into the game when he

705
00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:03,500
showed up to work every day.
So that's awesome to hear.

706
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:06,300
We're going, we're going to
Pivot a little bit here to some

707
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:08,700
more.
I'll call him fun questions.

708
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:12,500
Not so much hokey related.
Not NFL related.

709
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:15,100
I will start out with this one
because I'm the movie guy.

710
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:19,300
Okay, Curtis Curtis likes movies
but I I'm the big movie head

711
00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:23,400
here.
Everybody has this like, it's a

712
00:41:23,408 --> 00:41:25,600
bad movie.
Everybody knows it's a bad

713
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,400
movie, but you love it.
And every time it's on, you

714
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,300
going to watch it.
What's that movie for you?

715
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Wow.
Apollyon go ask by Eddie Murphy.

716
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:51,500
There we go, there we go.
You know, Eddie Murphy even when

717
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:54,000
the movies bad is still good
because it's got Eddie Murphy in

718
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:59,200
it.
No no everybody's Watch Beverly

719
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:09,500
Hills Cop 3, it ain't the
original everybody.

720
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:13,300
Trash Haunted Mansion.
But I enjoyed myself.

721
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:24,200
Okay.
So this is kind of a question

722
00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:29,800
your personality but also what
happened back in the day, you

723
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:34,700
know, in the locker room, what
were those three songs that were

724
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:39,800
going to get played to get you
guys ready and in no particular

725
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,500
order and every day at Virginia
Tech.

726
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:45,900
So this is our hating early
2000s.

727
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:52,000
With a three go twos.
Hmm, it probably been in some

728
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:58,800
some form of DMX rest in peace,
rest in peace, something like

729
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,400
this.
Just listen.

730
00:43:03,000 --> 00:44:02,200
There it is.
That's it.

731
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:06,600
That's it.
Don't slip.

732
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:21,600
Gay men because that was the
only championship game ever

733
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,900
played in the Orange Bowl and
y'all took it from him baby?

734
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:26,700
Work them out.
Yes.

735
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,900
I wore more one more Banger from
the early 2000s that was in the

736
00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:35,100
Hokies locker room.
Hmm, there probably would have

737
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:39,300
been one to Jay-Z.
Something's That would have been

738
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:41,700
a gift and a curse that I
wanted.

739
00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:43,200
Came up your tune the curse.
Okay.

740
00:44:44,700 --> 00:45:01,700
That sounds about right.
The big boy.

741
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,100
That's right.
Oh, I can just carry that one

742
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:12,900
device.
Yeah, this is way better.

743
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,600
You know we obviously we watched
your career from the day you got

744
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,200
there into the day retired and
now it's fun for us just

745
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,400
following you you know your
career in coaching because you

746
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,800
know obviously we were talking
about it before we got on.

747
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,000
You got that bug you know you
went to Tampa Bay Wife and Kids

748
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,000
living in New Orleans, you come
back.

749
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,100
They basically say, hey, you're
hired, yeah, you're a coach.

750
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:55,800
So I mean in, I see nothing in
my opinion of knowing the

751
00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,800
individual, you are.
I see nothing but good things

752
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,600
ahead.
I hopefully I see a Super Bowl

753
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:09,100
ring the next time you work out,
maybe know as you know, that

754
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:12,500
would be sweet.
I'm hoping you get it for you

755
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:17,500
but I would like it like it to
go another way, but if you ended

756
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:20,500
up getting it, I would feel like
this is s number two for me.

757
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:25,700
That's all good.
You guys are being child there

758
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,700
tonight.
This is Darryl, Tapp there a

759
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:31,200
path is not Chop.
Prime C, Glenn Curtiss, Wilson

760
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,700
are not shy guys.
We got it was funny Darrell

761
00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:37,200
again, I won't, we really
appreciate this.

762
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,400
We reached out to you in
February and asked, would you

763
00:46:39,408 --> 00:46:41,000
like to come on?
You were straight up with this.

764
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:46,400
You said, give me a few months,
your liking a few months, and I

765
00:46:46,408 --> 00:46:48,000
got to make this move and
everything.

766
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,500
Given month, we hit you, you hit
us back.

767
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:55,900
And basically say I'll do it.
Thank you for not saying like

768
00:46:55,900 --> 00:47:02,300
3:00 made me choose.
Come on neighbors.

769
00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:34,900
Couch tonight.
Bad mood or anything like that.

770
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:37,800
Like I always want to make sure
you guys appreciate it for

771
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,800
everything.
You did to help me and we really

772
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,400
appreciate you and you
definitely, you know, out there

773
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:45,400
showing the best of what Hokie
nation is all about.

774
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,800
So we really appreciate that
too.

775
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:50,600
You really are a man.
Well folks that is going to wrap

776
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,800
up this live stream of the
boundary Corner podcast along

777
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,900
with our guest Darryl Tapp I'm
Curtis Wilson.

778
00:47:57,300 --> 00:48:00,200
I'm Brian Sigler.
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779
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,400
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780
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784
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:16,100
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785
00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:18,900
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786
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:21,400
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787
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,700
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788
00:48:25,700 --> 00:48:28,000
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789
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794
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795
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