MTSU Game Preview

0:23 Welcome back to be bound, record podcasts. I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian siglo, buddy. How are you doing? This Wednesday night, the one of the best hump days are the year, Braun. You know, why? Tell me why? Man, we worked one day so far this week. There you go there, go there to hump days that are great Labor Day Memorial Day cuz you work one day and the next thing you know, you shut your computer for the day and You know, the next day. Yeah, for you.

1:17 There you have way there. It's like, I'm late and after coming off the huge win last week, I mean, feels even better. You can highlight seeing Sandman played everywhere, lots of national publicity after that, when both for the quality of the wind and the quality of the environment and it was an environment, you know, we discussed it Friday. Day and it just continues to show the more videos that are coming out of folks, in the stands, you know? That's, that's why I'm at, is laying stadium is one of the toughest places to play in the country is when that crowd is going, someone tried to say, saw put a poster, it's not really that loud. A you've obviously never been there and you've never taken people there who have been to other stadiums that are 20, 30 thousand and they say, why is This louder. So you know, that what it is, how do you actually? I've talked to people that have been to games at the shoe. Big house in state.

2:25 I've had a Penn State. Yeah, I mean there's there's been people that I've talked to that have been all those places are like, yeah, I mean, there's something about laying at night that just hits different. It's laying at night. It's when it's packed when the student check since Poppin, it's unbelievable. In Dom, as we get into it tonight, Brian guy, read consistently on. CBS Sports is time for Nellie, he doesn't cover three podcast, he's about of Chicago, and he had a quote, and because he is talking about watching college football and week zero. And he said, for the first time, you know, he cried, he says many hours. Is that spent watching college football up until that. that point is the first time I've cried while doing so And he said this past weekend was a second.

3:14 However, it was the first time I've ever cried while listening to a Metallica song. But when Enter Sandman kicked Friday night, before the Virginia Tech upset 9:43 of number 10, North Carolina. I'll give Tom this. He did not pick us to win outright. He did go against the spread with us. So feel some harsh feelings there, but he said he felt the energy of the 65,000 people in Lane Stadium. Leave his television enters body and probably much like me and you and probably most of the folks listening tonight. He said this it was a feeling that continue throughout the weekend with the atmospheres across the country, bringing Joy back into my college football heart, I cannot agree with them or it was it just a different feeling this weekend then at any point last season and whether it's you know, kind of starting the weekend off with a big hokey upset Get.

4:11 Yeah, real big game or whether it was just having fans back in the stands. It just so many different factors were playing a role in that, but it definitely was one of my in recent memory. The, the best weekend's of college football that I can recall and it wasn't just the quality of the games, was kind of everything and just feeling like, hey, this is what we missed out on last year in this is, this is what college football is all about college. Football is all about the crowds, and I'll tell you, Something I got, I mean I watched the Wisconsin. Penn State game. Jump Around was unbelievable. You felt that there. But watching the to neutral site games, the Alabama game and Alabama, Miami and Clemson.

4:54 Georgia, usually a neutral site gains. You don't hear. The bass is getting into it. Usually it's it's split 50/50. It's it, you get some buzz but even those game, you can hear it on a key play, but it's not anything sustained. But in that case and those two games, it was sustained and you know, Alabama smacking, Miami and Clemson, and an old-school dog food. Dog fight with a loss to Georgia but we'll talk about some of the pics later on your boy not doing too great here. But left, let's start with this prawn is something I didn't want to happen. I don't know how you felt about it so I'm going to ask you. I didn't want to happen.

5:35 We got ranked, unfortunately, coaches. Put us at 21 the AP. Put us at 19, I hate it, I hate it. What about you? You know, how I feel about rankings before mid-october, you know what really bronze Brian's gears? Go ahead, Brian. Get these rankings out of here until you've at least played five games. But if we're going to be ranked, I'm glad that it was kind of in the lower end of the of the pole there. Some people had us as high as like top 15. I'm like no too soon too. Soon pump. The Dam breaks here. We don't have to over rank us just because we beat a probably over ranked UNC team.

6:18 Which I mean we talked about it before the season started, we had them probably in the back half of The top 25 where as most everyone else had them at least top 15 if not top 10. So, you know, the coaches poll at 21, I think, is a little bit more accurate than the 19. I'll take the ranking, but it's not something that I'm in favor of. And it's not something that I like after just, you know, such a small sample size, is one Victory against what we know now, is probably a somewhat over ranked UNC team, even if it's not Greatly over ranked. Exactly. Again I don't want to be ranked at all.

6:59 I didn't want to be ranked until after we beat West Virginia that was my field but I'm with you on the whole week, five thing, we got to see games, we got to see more games because you could have a team like Miami rank, what? 12 gets more Alabama, they lose again to appstate. The next thing you're looking at us like they weren't really that good and at the end of the season, something you've always kind of alluded to with certain conferences. Is Brian at the end of the season for they have five top 20 wins. And you look at the records, like they were five at the time. They were 15 at the time of the game there. Now, 6 and 6, they're really not a 15 quality win what we took it out.

7:41 If you're gonna start saying, there's a ranked game, I want at least 55 contest under your belt and you probably need to at least be forward, one of those contests and that one needs to be against another team. Team that's probably the top 25. That's just, that's just how I feel on it. I'm sure other people feel other ways. I know that there is the whole, we've got a quantify it, so there's really no other way to quantify it, but at the same time, the problem with polls in general is that you still have a human element in the college football playoff selection committee, but their selections are informed by what we thought of teams. Both at the time, the season started And as things went along.

8:25 So that Shades how we Rank, and Andre ranked teams throughout the season, abso-freakin'-lutely. All right, let's get a couple shout outs here. Brian. Let's do it. Temari Connor, the ACC defensive back of the week. Well done. You probably have picked any for in our secondary, multiple Armani with one catch. - five yards strong with the good game. I mean, Waller just walking it up across the board. Exactly. Walter with the pick tomorrow to pick. Come are doing what he does with.

9:07 I think seven, tackles maybe eight, I don't have the stat sheet in front of me, but he had a very good tackling game as always. And the one thing that they talked about was he got really burned last year in the slot better this year, 7 of 13, so definitely improving on that. And then his Time at the linebacker position obviously helping him get some extra tackles. All right. What about this one? You ready? What you got coach for Wednesday? Is the Dodd Coach of the week. Obviously the dad coach of the years of pretty big trophy at the end of the year. So awkward now. I mean it's interesting because I mean I feel like this was a combination of two things so it's combination of the opponent that we played and how we went about it and how well prepared for it. And I think coach coach food did a good job of getting the everyone ready to play that game. I mean, if you say Who out coach to coach Fuente, definitely out coach Mack, Brown on that, on that game, big time. You know, whether you got positive, negative or any feelings about Coach Fuente, he was the better head coach on the field on Friday night.

10:24 He absolutely was and I think maybe some of the stuff you saw from UNC about, showing the fourth showing the Enter Sandman and they're up and around and dancing. It's one of those things where it's like, You, when we saw that, I think I felt. Okay. Y'all aren't taking it serious? It's going to be a full stadium that has not been there since pit 600-plus days. Yep. Is going to be loud. It's an F, it's an evening game. So the people that are coming or probably getting their morning, the kids are probably skipping classes. The afternoon classes are probably getting cancelled so you're going to have a bunch of riled up people and I'm sure that floated around and I'm sure that also floated around. To the team.

11:11 Well, I think one thing, you know, playing Enter Sandman over loudspeakers and having 65,000, sustained screaming noise for four quarters. That's, those are two different things. You know, I know that there was a buzzy way of okay, well, look what we're doing. But at the end of the day, it probably didn't mean a damn thing and probably didn't impact them positively or negatively for the game. Exactly. So you know, good on him that. All right, let's take a look at this. Prawn just got dropped today. Shout-out will Stewart. He posted the Tweet, the rating for the Friday night at 6:00 on the Labor Day.

11:52 Weekend, 2.5 million. Yes, good number. It is a very good number. It was ESPN's fifth highest of the games that they had, kind of their big matchups. Three were in prime time, and then you had the Alabama game, which is at the Miami game at 3:30. So, again, it's that positive, a lot of eyes were on the Hokies when they did really good things. And again, for us, an ESPN, really good number. So hopefully, we don't get many call the clocks. Yeah, and I mean, I like that, we went out there and we won a game that we needed to win in Primetime, mostly Primetime, evening game, and just took care of business with eyes on it because I feel like it's been a long time.

12:47 Since we've had that national game where we went out there and we had a spectacle but then we also took care of business. Yeah, and the spectacle took care of business and look good in a facet of ways. Both defensively offensive ly and something else. We'll talk about a little bit later on special teams. All right. So let's go to some news and notes. Brian for this week. Let's talk about this early in the camp. The transfer McCray out of Marshall was plain backer dip and lo and behold press Iran. Monday, he has moved to defensive end.

13:30 I mean, is it a Mari 2.0? I know, I think I said, I think it says two things. So it's two things. Number one, it says that we're more or less confident with artists as backup, especially since we are moving tamari into linebacker. We go, true nickel. So it says that number two, it says that we need some help at defensive end depth wise because I don't think this move is made unless we were a little bit light at that position and we're definitely and I'm not saying it wouldn't be made eventually, I don't think it's made at the time we're making it, if it wasn't for that. And number three, I mean he's got athletic tools and he's got a similar Bill to wear Bar no was a couple years ago. Yep.

14:28 Let's let's see what we can do here. So I don't think it's a bad move for us. We'll see if that's going to have any trickle-down long-term at the linebacker position but you know it's definitely going to help us Shore up the the defensive line a little bit this this year. Yeah also says to me might mean there's a couple guys not ready to play yet where CJ has been in a college program for multiple years Years. Even if he is undersized and to 15 to 20, he's seen some field action. He's been in a program not getting there for the first time. So you know, I don't think that shocking we getting he's got the body, he's got the body type for so we shall.

15:10 Yeah I mean I think if you want him to be like a significant rotational player, he's probably going to need another 15 or 20 pounds, but in terms of just being able to do something kind of like Barnett was able to do with beginning of last year. You know, I'm not necessarily expecting. Kind of the, the big, you know, light switch to go on like you did for bar. No, but if he can, just give us some meaningful steps, especially in situational, third and long and things like that. I think that'll be good for us. Absolutely. Alright. Braun Friday night. We did see Devin hunger on the field for a couple plays but the majority we saw in a Seer people's this week, it is now essentially or position boundary safety is now hunter or any shot.

15:58 Just were they waiting for it to happen with the with the action Friday night? I think they wanted to kind of see what they had but it seemed like peoples was kind of trending that way just before you know, as fall Camp wrapped and we got into practice. I think Hunter is going to be an asset for us. But if peoples is playing, the way he played against you and see that mean that's hard to go away from him for a significant amount of snaps. Yeah. Absolutely is. And you know, people's was a pretty big projected guy out of high school had like it came down to, you know, us and Notre Dame. I think Michigan and a few, the to force couple people on 24/7. You know, put him to Michigan, which wasn't a shot by the way. Shout out.

16:46 John, how are you tonight? The boys are on the air. You are correct, sir. All right, Brian, let's get into this. Just a little more notes. So we got some snaps counts. Shout out to 474, put them out there and we noticed some of the stuff on Friday, especially on the offensive side defensive side because of the camera shot usually focused on the offense. You don't know who's in there and occasionally I did see Ally Adams number a couple times Friday night. I did see Jalen Griffin and let's actually start with though the offensive line because I think this paints a picture for me and you wear some of our worries may have may be getting a little bit relieved.

17:28 Aged and, you know, left tackle, left guard Center. Those guys played every spout. Locked up. Lock it up to new to did a good job. Let it gets good job. Brought. Good job right side. All right. Ready for it, Ron, here's the numbers Caden more played 42 snaps Silas, Dan's. You played 46. Now, Johnny Jordan came in at Right Guard played 21 and Tyrell Smith played 17, nope. Nope, no sign of Parker Clements. But how does that now make you feel to see? They not only got snaps, you know, Johnny got a third of the snaps that guard and and Tyrell essentially got about a quarter of the snaps at right tackle.

18:22 Yeah, I mean I feel pretty good about that. That tells me that we're at least going to have that that's going to be the the settled on seven, man. Rotation, the question is going to be is that whose is there going to be an extra interior guy that works in there at some point? And is that person Jesse Hanson time will tell but I think if you're looking at the solid, man, rotation, 7 man, rotation, I mean, that's going to be the guys there with Ty Smith really working in it either tackled Depending on who goes down and you got Johnny, Jordan, it's kind of the full-on Swing interior lineman there because he can really play all three positions if you needed to absolutely. Um I was just again I was just glad that got them out there. Yeah if if nothing else because again it makes you think okay because of how that game was going to. That you could not make mistakes, you could, because it was a tight game and by putting them out there where it was heated.

19:28 I know, Johnny got out there early like Tyrell came in late, s the first time I saw him but knowing there were in the situation where it's like, hey, we have to protect the quarterback. We need to get I run lanes, open because this is a tie game and it's on you guys to come out here and do the job and essentially overall Sounds like they did the job and going forward. You where 27, man rotation. Yep, love to see, Jesse Hanson on his fix an expedition with his fishing Expedition with Sergio render. Get some tips and techniques He's getting techniques on both ends there. Let's hope it's both in fishing and offensive line, sir.

20:11 All right, Brian. Let's next jump to the defensive line because I think these were the stats when we talked about them. After, you know, 24/7 and Mathias, put them out there. That we were like, okay, let's start with a defensive tackles. You want to talk about? A balanced rotation Pollard. 36 Kendricks 34 fuga, 30, Jordan Williams 29. What does this say to you? Does it say anything. Since you know, the guy who's coaching the defensive line, that tells me, he's doing exactly what he wants to do with his four, best defensive linemen and that's rotate them significantly throughout the game. Keeping guys fresh making sure that guys aren't winded for long periods of time and that's especially key in game one. We saw a fugazi, I think go down with what look like maybe a cramp there one point.

21:09 And just trying to gain one. Still warmer September. Even if you want you want to keep guys fresh to avoid the cramping and as they're kind of getting used to that full game that first full game because it does hit different than any sort of practice element that you can have. absolutely again seeing the rotation and you know something maybe next couple days being you go back and look at is seeing who was paired with who Because that would be interesting. Is it, is it something like we talked about in the preseason where like you feel like it's going to be these two guys and then these two guys or is it now he's mixing and matching he feels comfortable with all four. Well, let's talk about that a little bit because what we saw is a lot of three-man line with bar know, really kind of playing a joker.

22:07 And, and kind of lining up all throughout the defense, he was still on the line of scrimmage but he was kind of picking Gap. Based on where the, where the defense of call was for the line. And that really confused that North Carolina front, they didn't know what to do. He played 53 snaps and he was left side right side. He stood up he spied, he played some Drop Zone. I mean you know we always talk about all ows right? Offensive weapons. You got a defensive weapon because the guy can come off the edge to. God. Does have a good pass rush. Shhhh. But the guy up until the summer of last year had been a linebacker, literally his whole life. So it seems like the defensive line and maybe Jack caller is saying, listen, we can do some special things we can go. We can go with a 30 front and we can put bar no in the gaps. Are we put them on the edge?

23:05 We essentially can make that quarterback have to think ten times more when he's at the line and where's wait a second? Where's the Of them ways that he's over here. Why do you just move over here? Yep you need to snap the ball and we got to set. We got a sack on one play where he dropped into coverage and it became a three-man rush. But they had shifted protection to Bar. No. And then he dropped the next thing. You know, you got other guys with one-on-ones and I think that if I recall, I think that was one of garbage sacks. I might be wrong. Might have been, I have to go back and look and recall because The old ticker sometimes with the old brain, just sometimes forget things but he led with 53.

23:51 I think the next three numbers really shocked me tell on guard who had a hell of a game. 38 snaps that I expected that the next to the next one really popped out. Jalen Griffin had 27 snaps which is that doesn't shot. I figured that the the first three were going to be roughly 50% give or take. Of the snap count. So the fact that he was up there right at right, just below 50 percent that doesn't Shock Me. Did it shock you that Eli Adams? Got about 20 percent play in getting 12 snaps, it did especially since I saw how creative we were getting with our alignments, but I think the fact that Barna was able to play the snaps that he was meant, that we also got to limit how much we put Eli on the field. It's so that's probably a positive Because I think Eli in short, spurts is finalized for multiple drives, you know, in a half, probably isn't going to be able to hold up for that long. Absolutely.

24:57 And again, will be interesting this week. We see McCrae Nelson Carol. I think that should be a goal this week for us. Those definitely a goal. Yeah. Try to try to get as many guys in as you can this week especially against we're going to talk about it here. What looks to be a smaller offensive line unit get some of those younger guys in that can that because the you know they can match up physically against this offensive line and see what they can do. Absolutely. Um we got some breaking news, probably about 30 minutes. It's like I think about the time. Me and Brawn got on. We're getting ready guys. Yep. Big 12 / Pete. Campbell's expected to add UCF Cincy, Houston and BYU in 2023 so three years prior to the Texas. Oklahoma expected exit.

25:52 Let me phrase it to you this way Braun. Will the Big 12 with these additions? Still be part of the power 5. I think so I think so and I think that they've done a good job of highlighting some growth potential that still more or less within their Geographic footprint. UCF in Cincy notwithstanding but you know plus is for them. It gets them in a relatively large, Ohio market, and it gets him in a really big Central, Florida market. So kudos to them, in terms of the financial side, getting into those markets, you know, snagging the Houston Market, you know, you're already in Texas.

26:46 But you're losing that kind of. South Eastern Market in in Austin, you're gaining one right back with Houston. It true. But Texas is more the whole state brand. So I think they're they're losing a big piece but they're gaining at least some sort you're keeping For teens and Texas. Still. So you have the you have the cross rivalries and stuff. I think what it I'm going to be interested to see because if a of Texas and Oklahoma state they're probably going to go to 14 team or 2714 team leaves going to go to 27 conferences. I want to see how they do that more so of where they put Texas where they put Oklahoma And because I think what you're going to see is the way it probably should look. It should be since e, West Virginia. UCF.

27:45 And then we kind of come back this way. Who was the other three teams in the Eastern? Is it the Kansas schools? Do you put Oklahoma State in Houston on that side? And it is the other side more Texas or is it north south? I mean yeah. And I think another thing to look at is that does this mean that there's going to be some negotiations, that the SEC and the Big 12 are going to have some sort of agreement? Where that Bye out goes down a little bit in SEC covers it so Texas and Oklahoma can go ahead and dip when the others join maybe, maybe not because I think if you if you're the Big 12, you just stand Pat and say you need to pay as 160 million dollars if you want to get out. We have to say that for them anyway. Now lets us both the schools have have the financials to recoup that money.

28:46 I mean over the Long Haul anyway who through, but either way, 160 million out of anybody's, budget is still significant jeevan Anand, come on the heels of code. That's definitely a big factor yes, take into account. No doubt. My other point is my other thing about what the big 12 did is the credit of Getting Sensi up really sensing the last 15 years has been a very good group of high school. Yeah. Multiple New Year's six bowls, we play them back in 07. UCF is about the same way. They were good in the early 2000s, had some rough patches started building up again in the mid-2000s Houston's kind of always been like that.

29:28 They were in the old swac. They have a Heisman winner and Andre Ware and then BYU. I mean It's a good base. I mean now, as far as Logistics. I feel for fanbases traveling because the year BYU plays UCF for Cincinnati and that is going to be some interesting games, but some very long hauls for teams players, coaches and fans. All right, big guy. NFL starts tomorrow, NFL kicks off tomorrow night with the boys in the box which I'll probably be partaking a little bit in.

30:11 I have some, I have some interest in both of those teams fantasy football. Well, I've got some fantasy interest in those games. Amari Cooper in particular like Evans Chris Godwin. You got a little Somethin huh, you got both of them. Yeah. Yeah, both different leagues. Yeah, Heavens in the league. We're in. Okay, got one. I literally, but let's, let's talk this, man. Let's talk your Colts. How are you feeling leading to the game versus a Seattle? I'm feeling better than I felt last week when I when we had kind of three of our linchpin players on the covid list and you know, still some question marks, whether wimps is going to be ready to go, still some question marks, whether quim Nelson was going to be ready to go, but both of them look to be Full Speed Ahead.

31:08 So we'll see how game one goes especially against the the Seahawks, you know. Was on the short term, I are. So we're going to be leading on Michael, Pittman going to be leaning on Paris, Campbell is, so, it should be interesting, probably going to get, but all of our tight ends involved. So looking forward to what we can do against the Hogs. Hopefully, our defense can keep Russell Wilson and check and we can make some plays on offense and come out with the w. Nice. What about you, man? How's the, what's the Niners talk looking like? Well, probably the best thing I feel about as we're playing the Lions, that's a good start, that's a great start.

31:55 As we're playing probably the worst team in the league, you know, Lance hurt his finger the other day, like chipped a bone in it, but he's back throwing today, Jimmy's the official starter because he took the interviews. Monday. And today, which is essentially over your starting quarterback, is, has to be available to the Press those two days. Just like during a during the normal week, they have talked after the game and during the week we're coming in. Pretty healthy. The defensive line is just it's just nasty. I mean, you know, do you? I mean, I mean tween for door.

32:40 Stead kinlaw Samson, a cab on, and then both of coming back along with all pro, linebackers, really good safeties Corners are a little shaky, so that'll be interesting. But if you're having a pass rush, like we had two years ago, you don't need to Jalen Ramsey's in the back. You just need good solid coverage. Because they're going to get home more than not. Yeah. And so you see you to be solid initially because yeah, there's not going to be a whole lot of time for quarterbacks. As long as you're not getting beat those first two to four seconds.

33:26 Exactly, exactly. So we're feeling pretty good about it, and then obviously one guy Kentavious Street, Robbie's Boys, still making the team and then big shout-out coach tap out there, cutting his teeth in the NFL with chriskiss Erick man. So, you know, unfortunately we're a one o'clock so I have no chance of seeing it. No chance of seeing the game but It is what it is, is glad to have it back, you know, got a couple Niners on my fantasy teams to so feeling good. Just just kind of ready for a full football weekend, Thursday NFL having some, some college games and then having some more NFL and some more NFL and some more NFL.

34:18 Exactly. Hi guys. So before we get to our main topic tonight of knowing the enemy Middle, Tennessee, See State. We are going to take a quick pause or a message from our digital partners. All right, Brian. So let's Know The Enemy. Let's start its Middle. Tennessee State. The blue Raiders just outside Nashville. The blue, Raiders Effort and see what the heck? Blue Raiders ours or something to do with Tennessee during some historical period. Perhaps, I don't know, but Middle Tennessee, State from Conference USA. Coming off a pretty bad three and six season. It's kind of funny.

35:00 The first recollection, first game I watched last year during the covid was them just getting absolutely shelled by Army like 42. Nothing. And just like, we were supposed to play on last year's like crap. And we don't get to play this terrible thing. So, you know, of course, they make some changes, go get some players in the portal this year and let's start with this guy. Somebody we know about, They do very well from our first game last year. Yes, we do. Bailey Hockman the NC State transfer. Very familiar with him. Play that first game with us last year, did not have a good game at Lane Stadium. Empty, 7 / 16, 82 yards with two interceptions. Overall the numbers last year with NC State weren't terrible. But they weren't world-beating clearly. You know after seeing NC State last week, why he kind of moved to Middle Tennessee State 2088, yard 64 percent completion percentage with 13 touchdowns in 11 interceptions had a somewhat solid, you know, game against Monmouth 17 422 to 1577 completion percentage with three touchdowns no interceptions. I know you looked at some of the highlights and a little bit of the game.

36:28 I mean, his much changed in his game from last year, when we saw him not much, he still likes to challenge him through that, that outside fade likes to Target receivers outside in particular, doesn't go over the middle very much. When he did, you know, he made him pay last year so hopefully we can do that again for a different team. But he throws a pretty good deep ball. The, the key is going to be, getting pressure on him, making him uncomfortable, making him throw before, he's ready and, and hopefully making him have to have to look to the middle of the field where he sometimes takes too many risk. So what you're saying is Sidelines are as friends and middle of the field. Probably, like what happened last year. He doesn't see it.

37:16 He doesn't, he doesn't come through those regions, see where the coverage is, our it's more of, I can push it, but if I go here, I'm probably going to miss some. Yeah. I mean, it looks like he likes to know where to where to leverage the football. So if he's, you know, able to essentially leverage It, One Direction knowing the Defenders on the other that that helps him in terms of his reach, he's Had enough of an arm where he can kind of throw that that 10 or 12 yard out and still get it out there. You can throw that deep fade and still get the ball out there towards the sidelines. He's got enough arm to make those throws and he's very comfortable. When it's kind of that that that one side leverage, leverage throw where he's not worried about Defenders that are moving, laterally in, both directions, got it. So one of those things where if he's having a thinker, you're bearing down on him.

38:05 The more we do that, probably the more Or bad things will happen like last year. Yeah. And that's going to be the thing for them is that they played a pretty clean game against Monmouth bearing and and really the Monmouth had exactly the opposite. So it'll get into that room. We will get into that. I really want to see what what Hockman ends up doing when we can get pressure on him. Unlike Monmouth was able to do. Absolutely. Because he does have some weapons. and, you know, I want to talk about Jalen Lane first because you know five foot eight hundred seventy four pound wide receiver /. He is also their punt.

38:48 Returner 161 all-purpose yards. Last week, score two, touchdowns one interception, which was 30 plus yards, eluding, back to your point of how Hawking likes to push the ball down the field and then the punt return of 70-plus yards was which was their first score in the second quarter. He definitely looks like a Kind of a home run hitter there for them. Yeah, he's a freshman sophomore, not a lot of production last year. So that first game was obviously his biggest game thus far in his collegiate career, and it seems like Hockman was able to get the most out of him combined, with the big punt. Return obviously increased that all-purpose yardage there.

39:33 He had really three big plays that constituted most of his yards, he had the long but returned, he had a 35-yard. Gain that set up their first touchdown and then he had the 32-yard touchdown I believe in the second quarter. Mmm. So again you're not seeing those, you're not seeing many easy, easy throws, you know, hooks coming over the middles and stuff like that with them is if you take 30 to 35 and then the 70, you only had two more receptions and to their about for about 15 to hit that 161. But they do have someone who is maybe a little more of a stick. Mover in the 62, 210 CJ Windham, you have somebody challenging Tyrell Smith for eligibility. He is on year 6 and if everything plays right, I think he might have eligibility next year on he was 5446. His longest was 18 yards, so obviously probably that back shoulder fade, type guy.

40:34 He did score a touchdown but through his first five years, Brian again. Animal production, five years. He was only at 80 receptions 1097 yards and 11 touchdowns. Yeah, not exactly. You know, killing the world. Yeah, he's definitely your possession wide receiver. He's the stick mover. He's the guy that you're going to look for for kind of a tough tough third down like a short third down where you just need to get the first down and keep it moving. Big bodies also going to be using the Red Zone, but that's not where Hockman is going to try to strike most often. He's going to be used in a very situational fashion. Oh and that's making you know again he only had he had five receptions you know, averaging right at 9 or reception. So again if anything gets probably his Outlet guy on the outside.

41:35 Yep. Well I want to look smallest guy on the field for them who made a big play. He plays primarily in the slot 57 150. I did not stutter five-foot-seven 150-pound. The FDA England, Chisholm 48 total scrimmage yards last week with a touchdown. He's played for two years just under 400 scrimmage yards each year. So a little bit of production but again, the way we're seeing slots used nowadays, you know, almost kind of say that's disappointing, but that little inside wheel here and for that touchdown, That was nasty. Yep.

42:17 And he's got the wheels and the shifting is at that position. I think it's been more of a consistency thing with him and I think sighs kind of limits what they can do with him from the slot. Because if they run him over the middle all game, they're going to get the kid killed especially against even Conference USA Talent. Let alone. Yeah, going up against Virginia Tech or other power 5. Rams. So but that wheel was nasty 29-yard touchdown. Yeah. So definitely gonna have to keep an eye on him. Probably he's going to be matched up with either tamari Connor.

42:58 Or if we go true nickel you will see probably either waller or Chapman on him. Yeah, I'm going to ask this just from you kind of looking at the tape a little more. Look at the highlights looking a few extra plates. Does any of them? Like, absolutely, you sit there and say he could have a really, really good game, regardless, how we claim. I think, if we kind of play in the secondary similar to what we did against you and see, the only one that really scares me is lame just because that, that ability to take the top off and that's where Hoffman likes to go with the football. So, you know, the shots are going to be taken. Whereas Sam howl.

43:43 Like to kind of work the ball to a bunch of different guys. Feel like Lanes going to be the primary target because he's gonna be the one that is probably going to be matched up either one-on-one or in a single coverage situation there and we're just going to have to make sure that he doesn't beat us. Deep keep keep everything in front of us, make the plays, like Dorian strong Did In The End Zone, where, you know, those 50/50 balls, he doesn't come down with them. Absolutely. Alright, Braun. Let's move over to the rushing attack. You made a few notes Here. You've updated this, and I've laughed as we're looking at it. So 94 yards on 32 carries.

44:25 Yep. They had 11 players with at least one Rush attempt. Yep. That you. So I'm here running backs, five different running backs, three different, quarterbacks three, different quarterback, to Russia, Weaver's got involved with because England Chisholm had a rush, yeah, absolute that play was on the most rushing yards for any one person was Frank peasant, with 27 yards. Five carries and he had an 18-yard carry of those 27 so he had one at 18 for at 9:00. Yeah um I mean they're playing mamas I mean in my mouth is a solid FCS program they've made the playoffs.

45:10 Yeah that was their top 10 FCS program so there is no slouch in that level but what? They're still. Absolutely three yards. A carry less than 40 yards, a carry I'll tell you. So I'll say this, I will say, I will say what I'm saying here. And you tell me what you think. They're running attack reminds me of, like a shittier version of what pit tries to do with their running attack. Imagine pit with really, really small offensive lineman. Okay. Um, well obviously for us in the past, it's either been feast or famine with pit, where they can't get anything going, or they burn us alive.

45:50 So they usually burn us alive in the pass game. They really get big big rushing games against us. Understand 2018, though they did. Right? Yeah, you got the rent. Forget that game. I know. It's still just leave it out think, but they also always have very big offensive line. They're not, they're not sitting here because I think you told me or we read somewhere, they have a freshman that's 270 pounds. Yeah, he's his playing weight, is what my playing weight was. And I was at hand and Sydney playing D3. So he's got, he's got about two or three inches. Sonmi height-wise. But yeah, and I was relatively under sized.

46:37 So what else did we go? I mean, I mean is the whole line that way, primarily they're all smaller, they're not small like that, but they are smaller compared to your average even G5 offensive line and they had trouble moving, a lot of what they did in. Running game. Misdirection help them, kind of get some leverage where they were able to get a couple plays. One was a particular, I think was like a wildcat type formation. I forget number number 44. I can't remember the name of that player, but he scooted in for a touchdown thinking about eight or nine yards out. Well designed play, but a lot of how they generated offense in the running game was through misdirection and guys just being out of place to make the play, they were not pooping the line of scrimmage.

47:30 All right. So you know, they gave up two sacks in this book to sex is good, you know, not bad, not bad 11 tackles for loss. Yeah I mean that's that's the Troublesome number even more a bar know like going to get 12 tackles for loss. I mean, we should so we should dominate them inside. With our tackles, our tackles are big and strong enough to push them back collapse, the Rocket make the running backs, have to run the hump and then I think our defensive ends are going to have a field day. So let's hope that we can bring that same intensity that we had with the defensive line against you and see into the game this week. Yeah, absolutely.

48:19 And the 44 year talking about was chatting morally when they're running back there. So yeah, the way I see our defensive line plane. I mean again Monmouth is a top-10 FCS good school but I don't think they're bringing these sort of seven man rotation. We have on the defensive line along with some of our linebackers. The other thing that kind of caught my eye when I see a team and I want to mention a couple of Things like that but when I see a team win 5214, if I expect almost domination in every category.

48:59 Yeah. The one category I did not see true domination in and they had a lot of them is third and fourth down conversions. They had 12 and 4 when you win 5214. Yeah and your 3 of 12 on converting Hose in the back of my mind and I'm going to get into the stuff later as I make my prediction in the back of my mind. That says, so how did you score all those points because you weren't consistently driving the ball on, you know, six to eight plays and punching it in the end zone against an FCS team? You were doing something different and I will mention that when I get to my prediction, teaser everybody, okay, that's a teaser.

49:46 And as a teaser because I think it's going to I think people that haven't really looked into it are going to be probably a little bit shocked to know how, but let's turn to their defense brand last year. Their defense was bad. Yep, real bad. They gave up over four hundred forty, six yards a game. They were like one position ahead of Virginia Tech and we know how bad we were last year on defense, 35 points, a game. Now, they did get about one and a half takeaways per game, which is not a terrible. But I think if you told me at the end of our season, if we play 12 full games, we were closing in on 20 turnovers. I think I'd be fine with that but overall really not a good defensive performance from them. And I'm going to start with, you know, one of their defensive backs tells across who had been a corner like they've converted over to safety 510 193.

50:44 Not a lot of games played his first three years. You have a big pick six against Monmouth. So what are you seeing from Ross in their back end. He's definitely a ball Hawk and I think that's the thing. We're going to have to watch out for us, not to make any any of those dangerous throws across the across the middle, because it will go after the ball as we saw it against mom. But took a pic 6 back, but not as sound in coverage, but he makes up for it with with this play on the football and being aggressive. All right, so it's essentially one of those guys. If you're what you just said is, if he's not really sounding coverage, he's probably freelanced a lot and little bit of free, a little bit of freelance. He's kind of, kind of out there not necessarily doing his own thing, but he is willing to give up a big play in order to make a big play.

51:43 Okay. Okay. Okay, I start hearing that and that immediately makes me think especially in the middle of the field. If he's willing to try to make a big play, let's let's make him think about going one side of the field and then hit them on the other if he's trying to freelance. So some of those Throwbacks, something to Mitchell, how would you attack them? I think that's a good way to do it. Take advantage of his aggressiveness. May be working a double move. Let him try to bite on the first, the first move, and then beat him over the top. You want to try to steal a pack in, but you also don't want to run a vanilla route and have BB throw off his back foot in his Direction because we know that's something that he needs to clean up.

52:32 Alright next, I want to move down to the defensive line guy with a really good game. Last week six 2260, defensive end, Jordan Ferguson, you know, solid 2020 season 42, tackles four and a half tackles for loss of sack and a half, really good game against Monmouth. Three tackles one, sack two tackles for loss, a forced fumble and a quarterback hit and, you know, overall they had, you know, multiple forced fumbles. They had a couple stat3 Sachs. They had ten tackles for loss, was he leading the way because or was he more of one of just is it more of a committee with their line? He's kind of the fire guy.

53:20 He's the guy that gets them going and we saw it with the forced fumble that that kind of got kind of woke them up, got them going. I think that was what actually led to their first touchdown early in the second quarter, if I'm not mistaken, there very often, It's a touchdown. Yes, that's the process of repairing. Yeah. Yeah. So that kind of got them going and I feel like that that's the type of role he has. He's a good player but he's kind of the juice for that defensive line. All right, does anything else on their defensive line when you were looking at it present, what you think, might be problems?

54:02 Or is it more of There'll be able to handle them but they have pretty good speed off the edge. We need to make sure that we're getting good sets and not letting them get to Braxton quick but if we set well there's nothing spectacular about any of those players but they are solid and they are pretty quick that that you don't want to just let them run around the edge on you. All right for you because of how good we run the ball. Are you in going back to your Heyday? Are you you just want to punish them or early running the ball and it's in. Yeah. There's there's no reason we shouldn't take the fight to them, right out of the gate and make them start thinking up front.

54:45 And then once they're thinking up front, we can start, peppering them in with some other things we like to do in the past game or some other things we like to do in the screen game. So kind of make them I know you talked about Ross like the hawk but making the defensive back in the defensive coordinator. Say listen you've got to go support upfront because if not By the time they get to you, you're going to have 15 yards because they're going to blow through our, you know, our two fronts. I mean based on what I saw against UNC and based on the tape that I've seen there's no reason that we shouldn't dominate them in the running game up front with our offensive line, we probably yardage wise left a bunch of rushing yards on the field against USC that weren't necessarily blocking problems. So if we can take Take more advantage of that in this game. Consistently, it should be a pretty good game for our running backs.

55:40 Hopefully, we can get Blackshear over 100 all-purpose maybe get Holston close to 100 total. Essentially, let's make them pay. And by making that Frontline, pay a guy who really impressive stats. DQ Thomas the six to two hundred sixteen pound linebacker. I mean last season, sixty seven, tackles seven, tackles for loss three sacks, two forced fumbles in a couple years ago, back in eighteen seventy, plus tackles ten tackles for loss eight sacks. So he's contributed every year and this year is no different already.

56:22 Starting off with nine tackles and two tackles for loss. If you could bet on, DQ Thomas for Saturday in the line was ten and a half over under tackles. Are you taking the over the under? I want to take the over just because I think we're going to be running the ball a lot. I think we want to really kind of get comfortable with our offensive line and running. I feel like this is a good kind of tune up for what we're going to potentially. See it West Virginia. The following week. God don't want to look past Middle Tennessee, but you also want to make sure that you are working the areas that you need to work ahead of a bigger opponent. I feel like this is a good opportunity to do that.

57:04 All right. Gotta make that part of your game plan. We really do and we already mentioned it and I'm going to mention it again. The forcing of turnovers they forced four turnovers on Saturday. Yep. And that was that's really you've already mentioned it. Brian if we play clean You know, there should be no reason why this shouldn't be an absolute blowout in as I give my prediction a little while and yours. Brian. I think I think we're kind of seeing it that way. Now, last week folks, we saw the Alpha version of the Hokies 2021.

57:48 Me and Brian got together. We need to write it a beta version things. We, like things we need to improve upon. So let's start with the quality offense, Braun. The beta version versus Middle Tennessee State. What is the first thing that you want us to see? Or want us to do differently? Take more shots, downfield to kind of stretch that offense and give the running game a little bit more room to work. I mentioned earlier, maybe some double moves that take advantage of the safety aggressiveness. I think we can match up well outside against their Corners. I think we should be able to take a couple shots against them, get Braxton more comfortable, throwing the Deep ball.

58:32 He had a couple good ones in in that game, probably a couple we'd like to have back. I want to see him get hit pretty consistent with that. This is a good opponent to really kind of kind of work himself in in that Groove. Absolutely the shot to Trey Turner down that side Lon. You couldn't have placed it any better. Yeah. As across, you could not replace any better. I think we talked about more downfield shots. Obviously there was one drawn up middle, third, third, fourth quarter, late second, half of that game where essentially trade Turner's free. It is a 40 yard pass. It is a touchdown, he missed the read. So we saw that, we saw him a couple other times. We were on to push the ball downfield, so I think it's there, I just think if we get to a place of especially if we're running the ball and Brian actually going to, I'm Gonna Roll into the next one here.

59:27 If we're doing what you say, has to be done, which is consistently running the ball better, especially against a smaller defensive line. I think those shots are going to be there potentially all day. If they come up early and I mean, they're loading 9 in the Box early, we have to take them, you know, beam over the top one time and guarantee of the back. But even that case, Brian, I feel like their size I still think we should run the ball consistently, even if they're putting 89 in the Box. Do you think we still should be getting with a loaded box or 5 yards every touch eight? Maybe not 90. They're not going to commit none. I mean, I mean, it's a 425 there. They're going to consistently have six to seven in the box. If they end up having to bring a tin, then we'll be able to Feast outside.

1:00:25 I'd pretty pretty significantly. So but I mean Point number two, we got to get consistent with that. Run the right. We yes saw we saw a couple areas where we hit some good runs especially on some key downs. And then we saw some areas where, you know there's a little bit of mistake a little bit of a, you know, handoff conundrum. A little bit of little little bit of just not quite finely tuned in some areas and I'd like to see that bit more consistent. I like to see. It's not have those negative plays especially the self-inflicted negative plays. Oh yeah. So if we can do that, I think we're going to have a pretty big night.

1:01:06 Absolutely, third Point here. There were numerous times and you pointed this out to me. in Friday's game that if Braxton Burmeister had just pulled, we might have had a lot more rushing yards. We could have had a lot more points, and do you think that was just now? Do you think that was just the game plan? Is this isn't a read-option, this is strictly a, you're going to show it after the fact, or do you think it was him just not reading it? So most of the calls on the night were designed for the running back. They were not read, option, plays, and then there was one I think on the First, it was the first or second first down, we're on the first drive or Braxton.

1:01:56 It was a design quarterback run. And he got the first down, but there was a only, a probably about a handful of actual Read options in the game plan and I think all but one or all of them he gave every time so I'd like to see him keep a little bit more. I know I harped in the offseason about not running Braxton Burmeister a lot. But what I was primarily talking about his limit, those designed quarterback runs where he is, definitely keeping the ball being. He's definitely going to take a hit. I want to see him scrambling uses athleticism and I want to see him. Keep it when The play in the defense, dictates it so he can get some of those big runs really out on the edge with with nobody out there to really cover it.

1:02:45 So, absolutely take advantage of that. It's really funny because Sally put the beta version together of the offense Prime that we can always go back up and see how everything can lead from the bottom if they're actually going to keep it more on those read options. The defense is going to have to commit more guys to, you know, making sure you're not crashing, don't crash stay up side. So if you got in the box, if two of the guys are protecting the edges because of potential run from BB, you're playing with your playing with numbers down in the Box. Thus, the consistency gets better and better. If we start consistently running the ball more.

1:03:27 More one-on-one opportunities for your deep shots. Yeah, well, I'll say this too. So since they're their primary weapon on defense is kind of a speed rush. If we're effectively running the read option, meaning that the the gift or the key legit threat. If we go play action, defensive end has to slow play it and now he's not, he's not running at Braxton, he's waiting to see what's going to happen now. He's not putting pressure on Brad. Direction is more time to make those throws in the play action and get his feet set and three good Ball versus off of the back foot. As we've seen, he has done time to time. All right, so let's flip it over.

1:04:08 Let's go with the Beta version of the defense. Yep, not a lot of tinkering on this one because the time and most of it is more, and we're adding special teams in here just because, you know, we're going fantasy football says, forget the defense and special teams here. Exactly. The first thing I want to see though buddy, as I want to see more snaps from that to D, this is the game to kind of get especially I'd say the linebackers. Yes, I feel like we kind of worked most of our to deepen at the other positions, but we didn't see a ton of Dean Ferguson or kishan artist really When anybody got a blow, it was Shamari Connor sliding in for that true nickel package mmm-hmm.

1:04:58 So I'd like to see them, get some more snaps. What about you, man? Anything else you want to see? What the too deep I want to see again. I want to see more Griffin and Adams I want to Since mccrae's moved, if he has the opportunity play him, the two young guys on the backend. Same Whalum will be on Murray get everybody a little taste this week because you're going to need it as we start getting deeper into the season. So I'm with you completely on the 2D but it's too deep on both sides of all's. I want to see Jalen Jones and I want to see the Wayne locked in place on. Honestly Marco Ali, get some carries. I really want to see a line. An offensive line where it's Parker commence. Where's Jesse Hansen?

1:05:47 Where's Johnny Jordan? Where Caden's leading it in Tyrell Smith to where we can get these guys playing more snaps live game action. So I'm completely with you I'm hoping we can use everyone this week. So essentially you want to see the if there's an eight-man rotation you want to see the bottom five not the to do. I do I want to see the bottom five because if not Nothing else. What did they look good or bad on tape? You're getting them on tape against not your scouting, your give him on tape against someone who has prepared for you AIDS teaching moments, be, it's those things where they can get the taste of actually playing the game at full speed, and there's nothing like getting that experience in my opinion. Okay.

1:06:42 All right. Now, What also want to see is I want to see the defensive line play like they did Friday night. Yeah, they got a feast in this game. I want to see Hawk went on his backhand throw in early, the whole game. Yeah, I want to see that running game stuff even more than Monmouth, was able to stuff it, if they get more than 50 yards, rushing I'm going to be disappointed. Okay, if they get more than 50 yards, rushing, I'll be shocked. I mean, they they're, they're, they're barely getting to a carry. But also with that is, I don't want these guys to take a day off. Go out in absolutely dig, dig the hole, throw them in it and then bury them.

1:07:31 Yep. And make that seven-hour bus ride to and fro the most miserable bus ride of Middle Tennessee, States, life. It's already going to be a miserable bus ride. Just make it even more miserable because no one wants to be on a fucking bus or seven hours. But our, I digress. Yeah, laughing. I'm gonna throw in, I will throw in the special. Teams here. So I want to see some Beaver ball. I want to see a block kick or at least make them think that you're going to block a kick essentially. Scare the shit out of them. Well hold on Jalen Stroman was literally I need some thinner like literally this is a little piece of glass that he was literally that close To getting a block kick Friday night.

1:08:20 Not once but twice, he had the thumbs touching but he didn't have the V. He didn't have the money as Aaron kumis joke about. It was a great joke, you know. Shy best told him thumbs together, you. And I got to block and no one shall best voice. I can really hear that in my head, but I think they're going to see that on tape. And I don't think, I think they're going to have like, a Max protect and they're gonna have like one Gunner. Like nah, we're Not getting along with the block kick in with that. Happening sets up return opportunities. Oh, buddy. Oh, buddy. Milt a day. We'll take a day.

1:09:00 So Brian essentially, won't special teams to either get one or make them pay. Every time. They decide that they're going to keep everybody what one person in. Yep. And I think that is a very good possibility. Brand. All right, man. So we got our beta version done for the Hokies. It's time for the fun part time for the fun part, Braun. And I'm going to leave sir, all right, go for it because I think the stuff I've told you I think when you when other people here in this country shot the crap out of them. So first of all, This team 152, 14 great-looking women.

1:09:44 Not really looking this. Great-looking women, not a great win. This game was 727 with just about two minutes left in the second quarter 727. Which means the only offense. They had to that point in time was a punt return. Boom, whole two minutes. They get a fumble. They get a score. They get another fumble later, they get a score, they get a pick six and get a score. So, Between special teams in turnovers. They scored 28 points.

1:10:24 Monmouth in the third quarter goes for at their own 38. And then get a short field. Yep, they score off that. So that is now 35 of 50 points on that. And you know, this game was still even with all the stuff going on. It was still a two score game going to the fourth quarter, that's when the pick-6 happened and then a pig inside the tube it or to another fumble inside the red zone. So, I'm looking at all this data and then seeing they lost time of possession, they couldn't run the ball. The only thing they were doing good was taking 30 yards, shots and getting them.

1:11:08 There is no way in my mind. This isn't a blowout. Yeah, we're going to cover. I want to see a 50 Berg. I don't think we're quite going to get there, but I am going to go. 4820 Hokies, what about you, man? Well, I like their offense even less than you do. They did nothing. If they didn't have a short field, they did nothing. If they weren't hitting, kind of the big play down the field, there was Zero sustained. Rise by that offense, I think we're better up front. I think we're better on the back end. I think we press them. I think they don't score, but 13 points. I like us to get at least thirty eight so I'm going to go 3813. Hope he's cover Hokies win.

1:11:59 All right. So we are both predicting, pretty much blow outs. And I'm hoping it's a true blowout. I'm not hoping that it's the Middle Tennessee State version of a blowout where you have to force billion turnover. Yeah, I don't want to see, you know, 14, late points, turn a to score game into a force, create exactly. Let's put them away and then, let's keep him at arm's length. The rest of the way, we'll put them away early and then give all these young guys a chance to get on that field. Get a chance. How about this Braun get a chance in the third? Or fourth quarter to let not skate them. See the field. There we go. Let them see the field. I would love to get our other quarterbacks involved in this game.

1:12:43 Yes. Because At some point, we're going to need one of them to make make a play for it. Even if it's just coming in for Braxton for a key Drive, in a big game because he get nicked up, we're going to need them to get out there. You know, knock showed didn't Flinch against Clemson, I want to see him against other competition. See if he can be consistent with his blade. Not just be, you know, somewhat clutch with with coming in it and called on me. Mode there so we can get him a bunch of Series against Middle Tennessee. That'd be great. Yes, it will be super key. All right, Brian.

1:13:25 There's a lot of games, this Saturday. Some people said it's not the best slate. I think there are some good games out here, someday, solid slate. It's not like a, it's just, it's not as Buzzy. I mean, week two is always kind of the after after the big slate of week. One week two was always kind of the You don't you know, you don't have the same number of big time out of conference games that you have in your kick off. Yeah, it's true but I think for us it's it's also a lot of it's this weekend. We kind of get to more like look at some of our future opponents and say okay. What it was week one true as we want false? Yeah.

1:14:07 And, you know, I'll be honest that, I liked it last week know that a watch PC know it'll watched, you know. So again, watch some aduke, I saw Gunner for the ball backwards, gz. Well, let's get into this, man. Let's start. Well, first of all, let's start with this. Brian, you're having an okay season, your five and seven, couple games under 504 and six last week after a one-and-one start. You have the precipice of getting above 500. Yep. Getting getting close to getting close. I don't.

1:14:48 Yeah, you're gonna need some work. You got some work to do this week, Man. 3 and 9. You had a row the boat this week and I do something this week so let's start it out. Brian and 11:00 kick at Scott Stadium. Illinois versus UVA UVA is a 10-point favorite since you are leading the field, you shall lead the first hole sir. All right, well, You know, I thought Armstrong had a pretty good weekend week one I don't know which Illinois team is going to show up.

1:15:32 So I'm going to actually go Eva here. Laying 10 points. Yeah, I don't do it often but I got to do it. Yeah, I don't know the Illinois team either. So, I'm almost gonna go with you, but it's still cook UVA a little bit of time doing a lot of funky shit. Finally, in bed, William and Mary. Again, I like Bret Bielema as a coach in the state of Wisconsin. The guy would have never got fired. So I'm going to take the 10 points. Give me a little bit.

1:16:16 Okay. Also this was, this was one of my hardest ones to go with. Go ahead, put it out there just because Illinois in the first two weeks is acting like, Georgia Tech was last year where I just don't know the product they put out in two weeks tells me to completely different Tales. Exactly. Like week one. They played kind of solid against a team we thought was going to be good. All right, Brian. You had conundrums on your first one. I had conundrums on this one. Pit versus Tennessee. Hit -3 and I go back and forth. Well it's at Tennessee but it's pit.

1:16:57 So the crowds probably not going to be as jacked up if it was a better, ACC school. But then in as much as I hate to do this, Kenny fucking pick it watching Tennessee against Bowling Green who might be Might be the worst college football team in the country with Scott Leffler there. I just, I can't see, I can't see it, I can't see, I'm going to take pit, I'm going to lay the three points, whether I'm you know it's just yuck. All right.

1:17:49 I waffle on this one, too. I don't, I hate pit. So I'm picking against Pitt. I'm picking Tennessee, I've got hinden hooker, coming off the bench and winning this game. Alright, Braun. Brian, they're just hate spit. Well, you know I'm not a fan of either real either team so but you probably have a little more love for Tennessee because of Peyton. All right, all right, Brian. Imagine this is 25 years ago. Syracuse versus Rutgers 25 years ago. If I told you Rutgers was the favorite, when we were kids, you'd be like, nah, hey, he's a football team here. Cuse - she'd be Rutgers - two and a half. We're Syracuse, who Syracuse Roots both last week blowing out of Ohio.

1:18:47 Yeah that that that came out of nowhere and that's probably the reason the line is what it is. Because you know if I if this was a week one game I just said that line is way too low. Yes, I would have given Rutgers, at least five and a half or six. Yes, don't know what I know now. I still think Rutgers covers. Yeah, and I'm quickly on that one, I think Rutgers covers to, you know, Rutgers last week, you know, blew out Temple and it's not your day simple. But I think Temple slipping back to what they, you know, essentially were again. But again, Greg Schiano at Rutgers means they're going to win games. That they should not going to be a lot of them, but they still went where they should.

1:19:35 All right, Brian, did you see the Unbelievable comeback last week down in Starkville. Yeah. Now this way it's going to be a little bit different for the pirate. Mike Leach as Dave during the NC State Wolfpack head down to Starkville to take on the Mississippi State. Bulldogs NC State this week, maybe a shock, or maybe not a shocker, guess depends on who you are. Mississippi State on the road as a road babe. Favorite. This is this was probably the toughest.

1:20:18 Game. All we got had to pick because you know, leech can score but usually he doesn't have good defense. Has it showed last week against a lot of tech with them jumping up and then I watch the south Florida game which I was completely wrong about And I'm sitting here, I'm going back and forth and I think what's going to happen with this game as will be similar to what happened last week. I think NC State's going to get up and I think Mississippi state's going to be able to fight back, but I think playing a superior talented defense. Unlike La Tech I think they hold them off in the end. I think this game ends up the over-under line.

1:21:00 Is it pull it up real quick. Is 55 and a half. I think it probably. Goes over the ANC State wins this game, like 3127. Late like you know, with the 30 seconds left Mississippi State scores. A touchdown to cut it but don't get the onside kick. So give me n c-- state in this one. Yeah, I mean we're bordering on a pic I'm here I like NC State. I like NC State is probably the Maybe the third-best ACC team after week after week one, they showed up. I mean I know there's gold up against what is lesser competition but they did really should do.

1:21:42 There was us through school from Atlanta that didn't do that. So that will for now remain nameless actually that's see that's officially been put on Death Watch so that He's pretty quick, went from, hey, this could be a great win team. Hey, we might be firing our Coachman season. That was a pretty, it was a pretty quick and Swift turn around there. But anyway, that's, that's not, that's not what we're talking about. Make your pick, but I want to ask you a question after that. Yep. All right, it's NC State. Okay. Brian, goes in Sea state to Georgia Tech. They have to give that man more time. The guy was coming out of running a freaking flexbone off. I mean that mean, I don't know if he's a good coach or not because when you don't have the players in the way Johnson recruits, it literally takes.

1:22:39 People are like, where your three could do it reality. It's probably here, for 25 before he actually can do something. Sure Curtis, but you shouldn't lose that game. Regardless of the challenge you say, oh, so you're doing a principle. The president was just don't lose that game. Exactly. Okay. All right, well, let's roll long. They don't, they don't need talent designed for their offense to win that game. Okay, fire. All right, absent-minded down in Miami, Miami, a nine-point favorite at State coming off of to score whenever you see you.

1:23:23 I think Miami plays focused after what looked like almost zero plan against Alabama. Yeah, again, I said how high was on Miami to start the season they didn't instill confidence in my assessment. They're weak one. I think this is a big bounce back for them against what is a quality G5 opponent? So I think they cover the nun. You think they fully cover the nine? I think appstate back doors opening becomes out focused but I think AB State can get it down.

1:24:03 If it was 10 I feel a heck of a lot better but I think they can get it down to low as non late in the game kind of what he see. You did to them last week you know I'm trying to think they played a couple of years ago by the way. Shout out my buddy at work Malik AB State Alum, you know. Hold on, let me get up this one because this one's gonna bother me. Where is it? Okay, whatever. But give me AB State. Okay. Cover back door. I think it is. You know your own on this one is 54. I feel like that's a little low.

1:24:45 Yeah, yeah I mean I think Miami is at least going to clip 35 in this one and I think AB States going to be kind of right there. I just think it's about a 10 point. Yeah. 10 point gap there exactly. All right, let's roll on. On one of the big matchups of the week top 10 matchup Iowa, State versus Iowa. Iowa coming off an absolute drubbing of Indiana. The one I got right against you last week, mr. Siegel, yeah, we had what I think. 33 differences. And I was, I was three or four differences and I are different. I swept them, except for that one separate us from you three out of four for you in. State look like hot garbage in against Northern Iowa. And when the game like 13-7 and you know, it's a really big game for Iowa because Iowa looks legit on both sides of the ball this year.

1:25:46 I expected more fight out of Indiana. Last week games in Iowa City. Not at kinnick. so man, it's a four and a half point line, I think I'm gonna go Iowa I think getting four and a half is enough for me, even if I'm not sure he's gonna win this game outright. I think four and a half enough for me knowing how both of these coaches coach, this is going to come down to legitimately a field goal. And I'd rather be taking Iowa with the points then laying them.

1:26:29 Okay? Okay. I tell you, can I tell you a fun fact about Ames Iowa before. Apparently, they have the cleanest water in the country. He was drinking water clean. This drinking water in the country. Okay, I know what that's not going to fucking help them because I was going to beat that ass. Oh, I will big Iowa outright Iowa out route. He takes the points. He says Iowans out, right. Is it a fight? Or is it a? I think it's close, but I don't think it's necessarily down to the last whistle.

1:27:10 Okay. So we put that on there. All right, we roll on and we roll onto a new look, Texas, team Brian last week who really against an experience lose. The in Lafayette Squad down in Austin. Really handled them? I think that shocked me and you Steve sarkisian looks like he's got those kids actually playing hard playing focused. Something seems like Herman only could do every other game. Yep. Now they're playing Arkansas. With only a six and a half Point. Favorite, you know, Arkansas last week. you know, coming off a win against rice 3817, you know the game is It'll, you know, at Arkansas?

1:28:02 What do you think about this one? Because if, you know, It is SEC talent that prevalent because here's a future SEC West game right here. It's true man. And you know for me I like what I saw from this new Texas. I'm not I'm not saying Texas is back but I'm saying, Texas can handle a middle tier SEC school so give me texts give you texts and there's that. Yeah, that seven or eight eight pointer, they just covering the corner. Okay. Um, I'm with you on it, too. I think sark's kind of got them going. I think, I think it's who they beat last week. I think that's going to be one of those games where he can, it can be built upon.

1:28:53 I know some people are like, well, it's a G5 ag5. Who was ten wins last year? It's one of those momentum. Like you just need a very experienced team, who plays sound football now, you're going to a rebuilding program with saying, Pittman over at Arkansas. So I am absolutely with you on this. Give me Texas, I think it should be about more than six and a half. I think this is two possibly three score game. Okay. All right. Um I hate early in the season when they already set games up, Because Washington Michigan should not should not be a night game, especially with Washington coming off of a loss to Montana. Yeah, no, disrespect to Montana.

1:29:45 This should not be the ABC night game. Now, with that being said, Michigan's is 7 point favorite. It's going to be in the big house. And I know Washington has talent. I think I feel Jimmy lake is a really good head coach, but the question is, will the with a Montana game? Beat them twice because you were at home, you scored seven points. You scored seven points against Montana? Yep, you know that that's the surprising thing, not that they got upset that they got upset pulling seven points. Seven points, throwing three picks giving up, multiple sacks, you know, in as much as it sucks for how are they losing Ronnie Bell?

1:30:49 I think missions going to win this one. I think Washington, you know, said to have a new quarterback and come in and, you know, go to the big house and a binge or bounce back after losing a bad game. I'm taking Michigan in this one. I'm right there with you bud. Michigan look, good out. The gate. Washington did not. I think Washington does have a little bit of a bounce back with some more Focus this week but I think Michigan just across the board more Talent. It was probably going to be close to a seven-point line before what happened last week and I think it's probably about a 10 point Michigan win here. All right.

1:31:34 Probably a game Saturday night Braun that we will be watching as we are recording our and going live for the results show. After the Hokies game Stanford, USC Stanford loss. Last week, they look bad against Kansas State. USC wins, USC, 17 and a half Point favorites on this one. Braun, that is a huge line in a Yes, number that is a, that is a massive number. You know, USC last week. They got the opening win and, you know, all in all San Jose State, you know, has become a decent G5 school out west, they beat them by 23. They never really, you know, never really in question, they led the whole way closest that San Jose State got was six. And after that, you have see, sort of laid the hammer down in the fourth quarter.

1:32:43 The line is 17 and a half. Okay? I am going to take Stanford because that line is too big for this early in the season. I feel like Stanford probably came out the gate, a little little off. You would see at a good one. I feel like just stakes in this game are pretty high. Stanford keeps it close still probably a two score game, but I don't think it gets to 17. Yeah, I'm with you. Um Stanford also with playing Kansas State who has the old North Dakota State head coach that guy. It seems like a real. Season always can game plan really good against teams.

1:33:23 You know, some got Justin Fuente knows how to do it. Some guys, just know, when given the time, how to prepare for whoever they're playing and put their team in the right positions, 17 and a half is too much. It's just, it's just way too much. If USC, maybe blows the doors off San Jose State last week. You know, like a 50 to 7 win. Maybe I'm talking a little different and saying, okay, this is going to happen, but I just can't foresee that happening. And laying that many points. Oh yeah, give me. Give me Stanford as well. All right, Braun biggest game this weekend is going to be Oregon. Oh hi.

1:34:05 Oh State. Organs coming in number 12 of hiyo state. Number three, this is in the Horseshoe High new Google the shoe High Noon cook-off. And it's pretty crazy with the line is I'm still waiting on Kevin on thibodeau's Port. Do stud defensive end out of organ? They sent he's likely going to play the foot. The foot was just is what it was fourteen and a half. I think I got to take organ. You take an organ. I think I'm taking organ.

1:34:47 I think I'm taking Oregon because we did see. We saw house tape on the road against and okay, offense in Minnesota in that okay often, it's was able to open up some holes in to get some points on. Minnesota's defense now, so much since Lee. Once they threw out a few things here and there they figured it out with the Freshman, but I think 14 and a half is way too much delay. I think organs can be able to run, I don't think or you can win outright. If Thibodeau plays it leans more that they could win outright but it's just too many points whether it's at the Horseshoe or not.

1:35:35 Yeah, I'm actually right there with you man. I know we're agreeing a lot here, but that is what it is, man. Oregon. I think does just enough to keep it under two scores. As you said, I think they're able to run the ball effectively most of the night and I think Ohio state is still going to have those moments where they have this handful of drives or they just don't get it done. Yeah, they're going to probably bring it on late and I think it's going to be a kind of a tight contest into the fourth quarter. The question is going to be how much does Ohio State Or it on once they kind of wear down Oregon. Is it going to be a touch or two?

1:36:17 Or is it going to be something more than that? Yeah. Well I don't think it's going to be that. I mean again I think it Thibodeau plays and Oregon can have that defensive pass rush. I think you can swing borgen's way but you know we'll have to see that on Saturday afternoon. Yes. I blend is anything in the last hour and 38 minutes broke. Nothing of note, dude. Nothing of note. All right, let's do it. That is going to wrap up this episode of The Boundary Corner podcast. I'm Curtis Wilson. I'm Brian Sigler. Visit our website at boundary corner. Be t.com to listen to all of our episodes while you're there.

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